The Express.
London, England, 1850-06-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, JUNE 20, 1850.

wailed in the boom prevented our eatehlag the names.
They were Wily bola Odstreilows sad Fenno melons.
Kr. mo/MIK. is wing the Pseud ruing of We-
al% owl enMeniai of the lees te a mahjesterkith
can keno to the haws of sash large masses or their isl.
low Iseadeymen. TN@ bones wend hardly bo Olgeamai to
hear the number of males above sweaty
yedyean of ups who
wen member, M frisedly seethe, aml __,_tumid,
simenhoese the Mini Wanks:. aerollal ,_Mdse 1
time wen 14,000, with 1,000,000 nemases, aa assail re_
we of 2.800,0001., and sa ineenlated capital of
6,400,0001. (Hess. hear.) The nntrollssi wen nearly as
'treleennettkillilbleer 181114119, Rennin, ,Alaa The
nal, enrolls/ sad into culled, was as fellows :—Sosiettes,
IKON; neesbaa, 14O50,000; annual sevenur,4.9Bo,oool.;
aidmenmenheed eaMtal, no less than 11.3600 a (Hear
boar.) Now. Wag the Whole M the males la rim Usitisei
Kingdom, alionesenty yawner age, at 4,0111.000, ft would
=that no k every Mee we, • member es these so.
In the hill whisk he was now saleakiem se the
hens In primed es Wishes ow two gins. Inrifaspeet se
enrolled sue edes he Innen merely le Newilimo the exist-
ing laws, bat thenight la semi= mina ea entirely new
saaslnsse. He ls pennies tut the finis of
Me wannisil smiolim dash Wen NW diesel sift many
of any dames Isulase. Is may sass et legal presiding.
they were esustaatly on is wort with the question are
you saran r and their being obliged to answer in the no-
gadve cost tins annually thousands of pounds. He had in
his hand a MOM which showed that during last year 14
district sosistks in Manchester had lost 3,6201. 12.. 10d.
What he proposed was to gin thom the we power as en
rolled soden to send in their rules, with a statement of the
calculations on whin they were kanded, with this difference
that it should not be necessary to have them certified by an
actuary. He would have the registration fee for the parent
seinties on guinea, but for each district society only half-a
crown. He would require the to_ eppolat trustees and a
board of management, sod those ocinditloas fulfilled he would
givethem power to sue and be sued the same as the enrolled
blig ' societies. H. believed there was no o onion to the bill
being read a woad time and that hay been done be
proposed to avail himself of many valuable suggestions
which had been sada sines the bill was printed, and fix
Monday neat for committing the bill pro forma, to order to
lutrodacs amonmants beaded on those suggestions. He
concluded by moving that the bill be read a second time.
Mr. COCKBURN mooned the motion. No one could
douot the excellence of these institutions' which not only
afforded provision in se of sickness or accident, but en.
ouraged to a large extent fealinp of forethought and pru-
dence amongst the working-dares. As the law at present
stood, however, they were not protected. They were sub-
jected to frauds and dishonesty, and had no means of assert-
ing their right'. The bill now before the house was in•
tended to secure to them their legal rights, end he appre-
hended, though there were objections to some of the details,
that the hones could not refuse to adopt the principle of
the measure. (Hear.)
Mr. ROEBUCK add that regarding this as one of the
most important bills of the session, so tar as the comfort and
morals of the working classes won osacerned to was strongly
of opinion that the government ought to take it In hand.
Up to this time benefit societies had been converted into
means of assurance, and had likewise been taken advantage'
of by the rich to secure a high rate of interest. This was
higtuy discreditable, and headmitted that spinet this evil the
present bill provided. Nevertheless there was a great deal
of insecurity in any bill brought forward by a private mem-
ber. This was not a question for a private individual to
take up. Compared with it all party differences were but
es duet in the balance. It affected the heart and feelings of
the great labouring population of this country, and it be-
hoved the government to dedicate any amount of labour,
for the purpose of maigtalaing that loyal feeling among
the labouring classes which this bill was intended to maintain.
Mr. P. SCROPE rose to call attention to one point which
had not been referred to by the hon. mover of the bill, vin ,
the want of security for those who invested their savings in
these friendly societies. The guarantee the hon. gentleman
proposed was publicity. lie (Mr. Scope) doubted whether
that would be effectual. (Hear, hear.) The object of these
societies was twofold—one present, or Rattly so ; the other
deterred. First, they Worded the means of making previ-
sion for sickness ; and &fondly, of providing annuities in old
age, assurances in case of death, and provision for children—
these hitter benefits not falling due until probably twenty or
thirty years from the commencement of the process of in-
vestment. Unless some murky were affirded that the
objects of such investments should be fulfilled them societies
became mere traps to the poor, an evil which it was the duty
of parliament to remedy. The hon. gentleman did not pro•
pose to require the certificate of an actuary as to the correct-
ness of the calculations of societies applying to be registered,
and the result of this omission he feared would be to encou-
rage the operation of societies founded on false tables and
unsound calculations. (Hear, btu.) He suggested that the
hon. gentleman should postpone his bill ;mill they saw the
fats of the Savings Banks Bill, which ought to be the basis
of any new Friendly Societies Bill.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not
agree with the bon. and learned member for Sheffield that
the government ought to take this bill out of the band'
of his hon. friend (Mr. Sotheroe), who had paid I
much attention to the subject, and deserved the thanks
of the house on that account. (Hear, hear) Nor
did he agree with the hon. and learned gentleman
that it was the duty of the government to undertake the
management of all bills on important subjects which might
he introduced; on the contrary, he thought it more desirable
that those independent members who had experience on par-
ticular questions and leisure to attend to them, should be
i allowed to give the hones the benefit of their knowledge by
introducing such measures as they might consider canonry
in retard to them, leaving it to the government to examine
them and propose such amendments as they might consider
DEC 1444/y. inc government did not underrate the import-
ahNt of this subject nor the difficulty of legislating on it, but
to adopt the suggestions of the hen. and learned member for
Sheffield and secure all those persona who invested their
money tin these societies 'was impossible. Many of them
were enrolled, but a vast number were not, and without an
interference on the part of the government which would
create alarm and which in this country would never
be tolerated, it would be impossible for the government
to guard against fraud in every case. If the principle
of self-government were retained, the risk to • eertain
degree must remain with the depositors. It was true, as
the hon. and learned member cad stated, that in many
coo partite for whose benefit these societies were never in-
tended had availed themselves of them in lieu of mortgages,
bonds, and assurances, in consequence of the high rate of
inter, it they afforded. The object of the legislature in re-
gard to these societies undoubtedly was, that they should be
for the benefit of the poorer closes only, to encourage in
them habits of economy and prudence, and it was • perver-
sion of the intentions of parliament that person. in the
higher ranks of life should avail themselves of the advan•
twee which they affirded, and thus contribute to entail a
loss upon the country. But these questions would arise
more properly in discussing the clauses of the bill, therefore
he recommended, as the better course, Viet the house
should assent to the second reading, and postpone the dis-
cussion of thesematters of detail until the committee.

Mr. SLANEY thanked his ban. Mend (Mr. Sothirrod)
for the attention ►e had devoted to this subject; but he
doubted whether the bill went far enough. He thought
some means should be devised to enable the poor to ensure
themselves from louse arising from the failure of employ-
ment, by setting apart a portion of their earnings to form a
fund out of which an allowance should be made to them
when out of work. He also thought a clause should be in-
troduced to give a summary remedy against fraud by any one
of the members of a friendly satiety.
Mr. ADDERLEY remarked that the points referred to
by the ►en. gentleman who had just spoken were provided
for by the bill.
The bill was then read a mond time, and ordered I. be
committed on Monday next.
BOROUGH BRIDGES BILL.

This bill was read a snood tin;e:
The other orders having been disposed of,
Mr. lIIIME inquired when it was the intention of the
government to proceed with the committee of supply.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
he should propose the committee upon Friday ; bet as
the notice of the hat. member for Dublin, with regard to
Irish education, stood as the first amendment, it was possible
that the house might not get into committee. is that event
he amid propose to go into committee.on Thursday next.
On the motion of the Carascammil of the Excusciuza,
the following were appointed the osmmittee on the new
Hoots of Commons : The Chancellor of the Exchequer,
Me. Greene, Sir Robert Peel, Mr. Hankie, Sir Beojansin
Hsu, Mr. Tanen, Sir John Hobhoues, Mr. Osborne, Mr.
Illithey Herbert. Mr. Disraeli, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. Fitzroy,
Mr Nations Norreys, Mr. Lock Mr. D'Eyncourt. Mr.
Monies, Sir James Graham, Mr. Wilson Patten, Lord Naas,
mg Sir Robert Bury Inglis.
The house then adjourned at s quarter to six o'clock,

CHARGE OP MURDER AT MoSELT, CIIESHIRI.
An investigation km keg been pending before a coroner's
jury in Cheshire, with reference to the death of Mary
Roark, who was supposed to have been murdered by her
husband. Oa Saturday the jury met fur the last time at
the Sheers Inn, Wisely. A woman named Caroline Bottom-
ley deposed that she was with deceased shortly before her
death. Deceased told her that her husband had put some-
thing into her porridge which bad caused her to vomit.
Witness asked the prisoner what it was, and he replied that
it was soda water. Witness did not moonset that at the last
examination.—ln examination by Mr. Leigh (the prisoner's
solicitor) witness said I did not we any part of the porridge.
After a coneultation, the jury retuned a verdict to the
following effect :—" That Muy Roush, on the 30111 cloy of
May, came by her death from the effects of a deadly poison,
called white UMW; bat there was not sufficient evidence
before the jury to show who gave it to her." Roush was tut, discharged, but was immediately sneered by Pollee-
eciastable Orrfde ea the charge of murdering hh wife.
The prisoner was examined before the magistrates on Monday,
but was remanded for further evidesoe.
AuirriAtiAN VIEWS RESPECTING MATRIMONY.—
At this lints homestead there were five men, whose savings
would have ambled them to have taken farms, if they
could have met with suitable girls as wives ; and they pretty
plwalarsitil animadverted apes the policy of those whom they
red shs, peeper persons to recft their planners.
Ouse remarked, " Whet doss Lord Stanley eau, so that he
Ism a wife himself ?" "Ah !" responded another, " and
Peel, with all his great *seethe, never said a digit Tad
about wives lot us." " Lord John Russell, too," said Ton
Blaney, "seems just es bed as the rest. What does he
think we're made of or nose, or dried biscuit
__al to be newly represented to Red Or/4a served fourth. cHo they call Ode looking after a
colony ? Has nobody no sense f" "Yes," nußed tato I
sensitive of the party. " the Quoit ought na lam{h
a wad shasi."—Dithow'oßowokki Word*.