The Express.
London, England, 1861-01-05 00:00:00

(Stamped, ld. AdditionaL) [TWOPENCE:

MIL 11021114 N, M.P., AND HIS COVBTIIVENTS.

On Thursday night the electors and nou-olectors
of Stroud again assembled at the Subscription Rooms to
hear a statement from the Right Hon. E. Horsman, M.P.
for that borough. The attendance was very considerably
huger than that on Wednesday afternoon, and included a
goodly number of the working class. On the platform were
Mr. Samuel Bowly, Mr. Matthew Bridge., Captain Hunt,
Rev. W. Wheeler, Rev. T. Lloyd, Mr. W. Dangerfiekl, Mr.
A. M. Flint, Mr. F. Eycott, and others. On the right hon.
=Heenan appearing he was loudly cheered, though some
were audible. Some little delay took place in the
appointment of a chairman, but at length Mr. S. MAILLINO
was unanimously elected to preside.
Mr. HORMIAN having been heard,
Mr. M. Mamas moved :—" That this meeting, basing
heard Mr. Horsman 's explanation of his votes and speeches
in the late session of parliament, is decidedly of opinion
that his views mid conduct are so much at variance with
the liberal coasiitueocy of Stroud, that he no longer
represents them in parliament." (Reiterated cheering.)
Mr. S. BOWLT aecouded the motion.

Mr. BOWMAN then stepped forward, sad could not speak
for some moments, for the cheering and counter cheerier.
He said—l will begin by doing that which I think will be
meet agreeable G. you. I will notice the last sentence of
Mr. Bowly • speech, and accept his challenge about re-
signisg—(great uproar, " No, no," he.)—and I leave you to
judge between us whether Mr. lowly hen given me one
challenge in answer to roe 1 gave him on Wednesday. I will
leave it to you end abide by it. Mr. Bawdy says I don't
represent hun—(cries of "Lis, us")—end be is kind
enough to my he will release me from being his repo-
mutative. But will be go on and candidly inform u
whether I was more he representative when I was last
elected than I am now? (Hear, bear.) Ho says I am
nel his representative, berm I em not of his emblems,
bat was lof his opinions at the lest election? And is it
whet occurred at the last election that his made him my
foe ! [Mr. Bowte —"lt M") So with Mr. Bridges, to
whose speech 1 liatesed—very eloquent, very ingenious ; he
said be was playful, and he became &Meet ridiculous.
(Laughter.) Well I meet Mr. Bowly's challenge in this
way: be says he judges of ;ache my votes and speeches in
the Hoses of Ihmmens. I seldtoliimoa Wednesday— show me
one priaciple I have abandoaed. If be will show me one '
principb I havenbandened I will resign my seat (Cheers.)
that's • fair challenge: will he deny its so (Mr. Bowly—
" I do.") 1 went thsengh the most important matters of
toe session, showed you the voter. I had given, and that at
the cod of the series the government agreed there-
with. I add—Show nee one opinion or principle I have
changed is 25 years, What said Me Booty about it? He said
very playfully, "1 don't say yea. have changed. I only
woad', you have net." I repeat my challeage, and I say
upon that yen have decided. If ease I was retuned to
parliament I have changed no opinion, no principle, if you
censure me now you are apostates, and set I. (ILlseets.)
What said Mr. Slowly about reform.? Bemuse I think a
gentleman who comes forward to take a leading part on
an occasion Wee this ought to take care what he sage is
accurate,. sad accuracy se one of the feet principles of that
Christianity of which I know he is a partner and an orna-
ment. He says, " Why dida't we get reform? Because
Mr. Holman told us to take the tory bill. tad why can't
we get a better? Because =es like hiepreveat it." And
in the last session of parliament he says I fulfilled m pee-
dictiona As to Mr. it is difficult to deal with one
who treats to wit for memory and imaginaticee for foots.
(Laughter.) Now, I said when the tory hill was proposed,
we the liberals, have a majority of 140 in the house,
and can alter it as radically as we will. [Mr.
Bowly Why did he think that if • tory bill
could be tattered and made radical the liberal one
could not ?j Why, was it not the fact that the leaders
of the liberal party were anti.reformers ? It was notorious
no party were so afraid of passing that but bill as the
ministers thesselvea, and subordinate of the government
openly canvassed in the house against it. (Hear.) Again,
he says that we dragged Franco into the Crimesa war, and
• gentleman asked, How about the quarrel between
Russia and France about Jerusalem r' When that quarrel
was renewed it was notorious that France end Russia born
that war, and England was dragged into it as France's ally.
He told me a fact 1 did not know—that the French Emperor
went into the Italian war to save his own life. But going
into a war to save one life in which 50,000 were sacrificed in
the first few months is very extraordinary. Mr. Bowly
would lay his head on the block at once if told it would
save 50,000 of his fellow countrymen. After some further
remarks in reply to Mr. Bowly and Mr. Bridges, he adverted
to the allusion the latter gentleman had made to his (Mr.
Bridges') not shaving and letting his beard grow, as well as
to the anecdotes told by him. Mr. Homan said—What
he told me about shaving put me In mind of as English
statesman. When Sheridan was on the hustings at West-
minster, one of the electors said to him, "Mr. Sheridan, I
was always one of your best and steady supporters until you
gave a vote of which I diempproved, and then I withdrew
my countenance from you." Mr. Sheridan replied, "My
friend, I am extremely obliged to you, for it's the ugliest
countenance I ever saw." (Shouts of laughter.)
Mr. Prima WOOD then said a few words against Mr.
Horsman, and was replied to by that right boo. gentleman.
Mr. BOWLY said they could not tell how far Mr. tionimaies
opinions and principles had changed—that was • matter of
the mind. They could but judge of his conduct, and
therein they hail been mistaken in him. He asked—if the
Queen sent for Cobden and Bright, would Mr. Horseman
join them? (Mr. Horsman—Nod He would not support
the whig, which was the best ; then would he support
Derby? (Mr. Herman did not answer, but merely shook
his head.)
The CuararAN then put the resolution, and it was carried
by a considerable majority, although a peat many were
aphid it.
Mr. Hoitsitag—The resolution was carried, but by
so narrow a majority—(confusioa)—that I heartily con-
gratulate my friends, the advanced liberals, upon their
victory. And, gentlemen, I don't grudge it. I am
' not the least surprised at it. I fully expected
it—(oh !) I only do most sincerely thank you before I
ten you how I mean to act upon it. I don't begrudge
I my friends, the advanced liberal; this second victoey.
They have had some severe trials of late, and I shall be
very glad if during this Christmas time any triumph over
me will give theta pleasure. I have often felt for them
this last session, and, though a good man struggling on
is • spectacle for gods, I thought the struggling of the
advanced liberals as to reform was rather a subject fur
the tender consideration of the Humane Society. Now,
I will tell you why I don't mean to resign my mat—
e you don't know when you have gut a good servant I
know when I have got a capital master. (Great laughter.)
I have reoeived a great deal of kindness from you,
and, though net a very old, I am become a very attached
servant. An old and good servant, if his master in • fit
of intoxication—(laughter)—or a tit of passion turns him
off at night, he would be very ungrateful if he took him at
his word, and didn't wait to see whether he was not sober
and sorrowful the next day. (Renewed laughter and
cheers.)llfow, I have the greatest hopes of you ; and more
than that, I sincerely believe -you may think it vanity—
that if I were to resign my seat, you might go a great way
and fare a great deal worse. Therefore if you are disposed
to verify the old proverb, and " cut off your noses to spite
yourfaces," I will not be so ungrateful as to
assist in the disfigurement. If it be any pleasure
to my friends, the advanced liberals, to pelt me with
their censures and speeches on this platform, I hope
to give them many opportunities. I promise to meet them
this time next year, and I don't despair of some of them
then passing • vote expressing their renewed confidence
in me, thanking me for not taking them at their word,
and hoping that I shall represent them for many • year.
That hope Ido most " Ily entertain. I thank you
for all your past kindness ; I thank you for your pre-
sent indulgence; I hope I shall have many future op-
=unities of thanking you for your increasing conli-
. (Great cheering, and laughter.)
A vote of thanks was passed to the chairman, and three
cheers were given for Mr. Horsman, and hisses for Mesas.
Bowly and Bridges.
The assembly then separated.

THE ROMANIST PARTY IN THE CHCRCH or ENG-
LASD.—The folio • advertisement., &dement to members
of the ohareb of Eng is appearing in our high church
papers :—" Circumstances connected with the irreverent
mode of celebrating the Holy Communion have prompted •
small circle of friends to offer to the most Holy Sacrament
acts of Reparation in Atonement for the assay insults It re-
ceives. Any Communicant willing to say an act of repass-
Con once a week, and wishing to unite himself or herself to
such a circle, can do so by sending their name and address
to A. B. G., Union Office, 342, Strand, London." The
"irreverent mode" referred to is that which prevails in
such of our churches as have not yet adopted the views held
by Mr. Bryan King.
Eltssyr SLlDlin.—Everyone knows how the perils
of pedestrians are increased by such frosts as we have
recently had, but few are aware of the number of persons
who are thus injured. The records of the Accidental Death
Insurance Company show no less than twenty-two serious
accidents from this came alone in the space of the last fart•
night, including three broken legs sad two spinal concus-
sions. We believe the whole number of persons insured in
this company does not exceed K 000„ consequently, if
cut of that number twenty-two have been injured, the
whole number of persons in this country who have been
injured by falls from the frost during the past fortaight,
sminot be much ender 10,000.
" Thlt Csowx Wesis or Ilinicau."—The great
demand that has grimes duce the reductios of the wine duties.
from a new clam of casionses who have gensessently irnrw
hat induced the directors of "The European Mee Colonial mine
Company" of 112. Penman. to make annusiesiesta teethe mfOdaf
shipment of these wines The completion of the railways so
lessens the expense of transit, that they are now able to offer a
really excellent Port and Sherry from the nigimilicest wine
country of Hammy at a price within the reach of ail els
20s. and its per es, bottles and cues inciaded.—iiidvertieb
met]

Mr. LIS Bzerfar moved the adoption of the recommenda-
tion of the committee, which ow seconded by Mr. C RELLI2I.

Mr. &KETT Mid ML. Elite= okiposed thin 'violation, as
it would commit the board to a principle, and the officers
would coma forward under it to demand as Memnon a(
adary, rather than the board conaidering all such increase
on the merrib of thy offices, alone.

The resolution was put sad carriodly, a large majority.
Mr. La llama than mooed that the subordinate officers/
ahosid be distributed into four clamor, via, first class—.
salary commencing at 9001., with an annual inersue d 101.,.
until it shall mach 3001. ; wood elan —salary sosimenciag
at WV., with la animal increase of V. Ms., until it reach.
290/. ; third clips—aalsry meameocing at 1001., with an
annual humane/ nt., until it shall mach 150 i. ; fourth
clars—ealsay oommenciag at Gil., with as annual increase of
4/, mita It shall. Teach 290/.

Mn Ficus'r sotrooded the motion.
Mr. M. L. Tans 'oohed epee the propoeed isomer of
salary se exceeds% and thought that the maximum salary
should be ZMY.
Mr. DALTON said he did no► consider thi► plan as the beet
that could be adopted, but as there appeared to be no
chance of obtaining any other settlement of this c2restion
he should vote for she present+ motion.
Mr. ff. L. Ts) ton moved s► an amendment that the
M3llOlOlO mlary in the first class should be tt.so/.
Mr. Biairerr seconded the amendment.

Mr. Pmccrrr opposed the amendmenh stating thal
although he did not approve altogether of the present plaist,
yet as eTMy one hsi been called upon to give up sems
point which be advocated for the purpose cf arriving at a
unanimous recommendation by the committee, he should.,
vote for the original motion.
After some further dbeossion the =endemic was Dew
timed.

Mr. SAt ace then neared another amendment :—" That
prior to considering the classification of oftbers, and the
earlier parts of the report, the cue of each officer moan•
mended for an incrome of salary be ecparatel} taken Wks%
ermecitlffiratinn

Mr. Lino seconded the amendment.
Mr. Lie Barron opposed the amendment, which wassE
neptived by a majority of 25 to 5.
The original motion was then put and agreed tea

NORTHERN RIDDLE LEVIR, !SEWER WORLA.

A report was received from tbe Main Drainage Commit..
tee, stating that tbe sureties proposed by Messrs. Brassey
and Co. for the performance of their contract were satisfac—

tory.
Some other btuoineAs having been disposed of the board;
adjourned.

THE WEATHER AND TEE PARES.

A great number of persona visited the various.
parks yesterday, for the purpose of skating or sliding,.
and the promenades and carnage drives were crowded.
The thermometer at the Royal Humane Society's liteoeiving-
house, in Hyde.park, during Thursday night, was as law we
23 degrees, being 9 degrees below freezing point ; at 9 a.m.
it rose to 26, being still 6 degree below freezing point ; and
at noon, whilst the sun was shining through the fog, the
mercury only ascended to 29; showing that there were
3 degrees of frost overhanging the metropolis. At 6 o'clock
last eveo iug the thermometer had wen to 31 deg., an
indication that the frost was likely to break up, .specially
as the barometer stood during the day at 30.24 and the
wind being N.E. Several extraordinary accidents took
d had it not been for the active exertions of
te ad
Williams three lives, at the lowest
computation, must have perished. As was stated yesterday,
• grand flambeau skating match took place on the Serpen-
tine, in Hyde-park, but the same was earned on throughout
the night, and whilst the parties were skating and eliding
with lighted links, Mr. Short, an artist, residing at No. 17,
Me:tor:Hoed, Remington New-town' fell threugh the
channel on the south side, the man from whom he bad
hired the skates having told him that he could crenate the
opposite side of the river in safety. He, however' remained
for ten minutes in eight feet of water.. During that time
he could not make himself heard, and owing to the dense
I fog could not be seen by the persons skating by him. A
boy, however, having got a plank., and passing along the ice,
threw it to hint, but thl
to thing he mull do was to place
his arms over the plan was even then unable extri-
cate himself. The Royal Humane Society's icemen resident
at the Receiving-house were, under the direction of Mr.
Williams, the superintendent, despatched in search of the
men, but the night being so dud& and foggy, they
were unable to find hint. A dog, hower.2r, be.
to Mr. Williams rushed forward in front of
enddirected deputy-superintendent Parsons and iceman
Green to the place, and they got the man out by throwing
• rope round his waist and pulling him out of the water.
He was taken to the Receiving-house, and attended to by
Mr. Williams and Dr. Christian, and be recoveved in the
space of three or four hours. Mr. Wm. Coleman, of No.
23, Henrietta-street, Manchester-square, also broke through
the ice into eight feet of water, but was reseed be the
same iceman, taken to the Receiviog.kouse, had a warm bath
and stimulants, Red was enabled to go to his keine in a
cab. Owing to the flickering of the lights from the links
and the uproar on all parts of the Mi. it appeansalmost •
wonder that a great loss of life had sot taken place. The
unfortunate man above alluded to. was in such a dangerous
state—he being quite stiff with Gustiest—that Mrs Williams
had to put him in • bath and Menem the heat by slow &-
pees. Fortunately, owing to the exertions of deputy Par-
ser, who had to crawl on his hands and knees, the man's
life was saved. During yesterday 7,000 sliders
and skaters ventured upon the frozen surface of
this river, and amongst the number eight persons bad
their heads severely cut by falling upon the We, and one
gentleman had the flesh torn off the lingenot his hand by
Ming upon the ice in front of a skater. Another gristle-
man, named G. S. Macguire, of the Vale, Chelsea, also
broke through the ice on the south shore, fifteen yards
from the bridge, owing to its dangerous state from the ice
having been broken and carted away for the supply of her
Majesty's kitchen. Mr. Wm. Hope, of Creek !fridge
Wharf, Hammersmith, and Mr. Robert Palmer, of 19,
Palace °widens-terrace, jumped into the water and thereby
saved him. At • late hour last night skating was carried
on with full vigour by torchlight on the Serpentine. The
Long Water in Kensingtougardens was patrooised be 3,000
sliders and skaters, including many members of the skating
Club, and the Round Pond had Sal madmen but no sane
dent of any importanoecocurred. The ire in St. JUIN/I'h
park is pronounced to be tolerably firm and safe, but a few
slight immersions occurred, and 2,100 persons ventured upon
it. The Regent's-perk had over 10,000 persons on the
ice during the day, and Mr. George Lock, of No 29, Ches.
ceder-place, fellon the Ice and received a slight concussion
of the Minn He was attended by Dr. Norte& The ice
here I. four inches thick.

CRYSTAL PALACIL—The Foresters will hold a
great winter fete at the Crystal Palace on Monday. In ad-
dition to the oedinary Clinstmas amusements a torchlight
procession of 1,000 torchbearers will form in the gronnds.
at the close of which the fountains and terraces will be illu-
minated with coloured tires. The palace will be open for
admission up to nix o'clock in the evening, at which hour
the procession will start.
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fidence of their exquisite workmanahip and artistic finish. They
keep time with very great precision, and have been declared by
competent Judges to be well worth the money. Parties wishing
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for Iwo stamps. la descriptive of every construction of watch now
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