The Express.
London, England, 1857-10-10 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 10, 1857.

Mr. 6.orgu Micheal Thorne, of No. 1, ALUou-terrace,
Kthes. nod, cashier MBensorsers, rave ander evidence.
He bid lived there 17 years, sad was now laing out for
amass home, entirely Womb the mimeos of Crestaorne.

Many otheiwitnes;e• wereesamined, their c..idence Ming
in the main the same as that given above. They stated that
there was a general depreciation in the valor of property
throughout the pariah of Chelsea, but more particularly in
the neighbourhood of Centeno. One stated ..het he com-
plained to Mr. Simpson of Sunday music being givca in the
gardens, and the answer wee that he would &continue that
when the goveratesst discontinued that in the parks,
The Chairman mid, as there wee not, end in fact could
• net to, *Wed= to rational amusenteet at reasonable
hours at be thought, after the evidence that had
been laid bikers the court, that the learned counsel on either
elde might eenfto with Mr. Simpson, with the law of en et-
=gement being entered into, so that no one
,thould to ad-
mitted to the gardens after 12 o'clock.
Mr. Serjeent Ballantice said he was happy to hear that
from the i hair, and woe not only ready to act upon
117,Ctradlopt it on behelf of the vestry.
Mr. Jame said what fll from tho bench wee entitled not
only to i=stimett to consideration, and he would therefore
ask the of the court for a quarter of an hour, to
confer with loaned friends and Mr. Simpson
Mr. Tubbs magistrate, said ho should oppose any rcetrics
u
does bethoriseingd b impend upon Mr. Simpson whirl were not
ay the lw.
The beach granted Mr. 311:121.0.1, request, and that gentle-
men and tho with him, and the learned counsel on the
other side, and Mr. Simpson, retired. After a short thews
they returned, when
Mr. Serjeant Bengaline said they bed not ben able to
arrange the matter, although it had been suggested to Mr.
Simpson that the opposition would be withdrawn if he
enhenitted to the same condition m Ina observed at llighbury
Barn and the Eagle, sic., to doge at twelve o'zlock. That
was all the vestry loving].
Mr. Jenne said it was certainly true that such a engfgeation
had been said., but at present Mr. Simpson hut not been
bent by hi. counsel, end he wM most desirom that the
whale idlest should tee brought in the fu let manner before
Ole two& Mr. Simpson had conducted this linpiriant ems.
blinded for a great many years with' the utmost regularity,
end propriety—to the entire sattelictica of the public at
hug.—end he was deairoue that its fatnre mode of
mutation or administration should be led to him
under the guarantee of his responsibility to the tenet
with respect to List 1k0n... If Mr. Simpson closed the
prime al.eolutely et 12 o'clock it would be his ruin—hie
wound be loot. Ile was willing to conecot that the
arewerka should not be discharged after eleven o'clock—that
an poem Should be admitted after one, and that the "stab-
Ifelmeat ebeedd be finally closed at two. (Several murmur.
of dirapprobstien from the bench followed this statement.)
The Hon. Mr. Byngtitagisthate, mid after :hr investi-
gation that had token the matter was before the bench,
and could be derided being moved that W. Simpson's
terate be aneplekby tbw snort.
Mr.eenit Nenseakte.—With the greatest respect for the
was not even
agile he enthi not agree to that rhis ease
baletweteded.

The Chairman said themes had better proceed
A number of other witnesses were then exanined ; they
were mostly 'Trident, of the neighbourhood of Creniorne,
and they complained of the noises and disturbances occa-
sioned by parkas leaving the garden, at hours rokequent to
12 at night, by whkh their rest was broken. Evdence was
gives that the property in the neighbourhood of the gardens
had decreseed on rake.
Mr. June*, in willieseing the bench, said ha Lid so with
no little anxiety, net with reaped to the result of the appli-
cation for the renewal of Mr, Simpon's limn, but the in-
terest. which that gentleman had involved In the discum
eon. lie had laid out a capital of 30,000 f. on th:o 1467TOPeriL
his lieenece bad been renewed year after year,
court and the magistrates of the dived ii, without the Low
of a complaint being made beam either, with respect to Mr.
Simpson or his I-movement of Cromome, and the cpestion of
the refund of this tome* era, ono for the earnest ant serious
consideration of the bench. Therese got up for the rriposition
wasenormonaly exaggerated isithefirstplacs. Riot,tumult,and
debauchery it was said had taken place In the grads, and it
was attempted to make Mr. Simpson responsible fir it; but
upon what gronad could ho he made rosponsibk ? Not any
more than the proprietor of • theatre could be holdrespon-
rible for what people might do after leaving his establehment
after the conclusion of ths performmors. Who had uttered
one solitary word of complaint of the conducting or nanage-
meat of Cremorne P There was not a single complaint by
the police, although offices were there every night, cud the
place was under their supervision. Mr. &elision vas not
reepumiLle for the noise of cab-wheels as than. ,elibleis
left Cremome than was any nobleman for the noise of the
wheels of carriages leaving his mansion after e guy; he e ss
not mom responsible for women of ateessibth Meter telill
Cremorns than was the proprietor of my public:
establishment in the metropolis for the character of
giving him their custom—the theatre* and opera hoima for
example. Had or had not Mr. Simpn n done anything in
the way of nianaging Cretuorne which could justify tie for-
feiture of his homes, which had been renewed y-ir Ore, year
by this beech under the same circanistancee. lie chaltuged
the opposition to affirm that ho hard. As to clotting tie gar-
dens at twelve o'clock precisely, it wen in:pomade. How
could 6,000 or 0,000 persons, which was the average neuter
of the frequenters of the gardens, be turned out as the dock
struck 12. The learned conned than commented upon the
origin of the oppmition. Them was an amociation of rouse
tlfteen Femme milling themselves theßatopeyer:Associatimi
and a memorial wee prepared and sent to the
veiny complaining of Creamene Gardens by a gen-
tleman named Dixon, • barrister, who having sub-
sequently made inquiries respecting the alkgations
and (vend that they Lad no real foundation, he wished to
withdraw it, but one of the vestry who Waft intereeted input, I
lie house@ lathe neighbourhood resisted, and it woe promedad
with by the vestry. Rena their appearance here to-day ;
but be it borne in mind, it was only • portion of the visit, ry
who had brought the matter here. Mr. Simpson said though
him, "I. who have conducted this large eriaLlebnient fur
yeses without complaint, without one moo of druid:enema,
or riot oceurring, without one case of impropriety of con-
duct taking place in the gardens, come Lt iv Lad ask for the
renewal of my legume; there arc no complaints •geittat me fur
what takes plat., en the gardens, I am not reepousilde for
what PA Ura 061ead," The pet sone whose conduct in the
greets had been spoken of ought have got into:kited at
houses after they Mid kit l'reniume. It wee proved
that only one complaint was ever addressed to Mr.
Sampson, and that us. about the Sunday music, it was
thereupon immediately stopped. No (Alicia complaint Lad
been made st all. The license would not be worth the paper
it was written upon if the condition of closing at 12 were
annexed to it. Prostitute., might be there, it was true; at
what place of public amumment were they nee? and how-
ever they might deplore the leprous spat width prostitution
was upon English society, the sun shown alike upon the
good and the evil, and in how many instant*, ought they not
to be • " for who was it that cemed the greet amount of
that , the poor cmmune thcruselree, or the other
era ? Would they go to Cremorne if men did not go there to
I loth for them? It WY arserted by them tippoiing parties
that dm names of prostitutes were upon ,the free list at Cm-
morne. That was an allegation which ought never to have
been pot Into the p tition , it MU a wit lid fabrication. The
free hat r stained the einem of magistrate., gentlemen of the
pre., end none but of equal mem. tobility. Mr. Simpson
was respetsiblo only fur what took plena in oho gardens, and
not one instance of a .vtripl.,let wo,a in evidence. If the
numbers frequenting the modem were turned out athe
rick etruck, what Bretton of riot and brawling would there he
then ? What evidence had been given that the dancing was
obs iene or indoent. There woe not • single police ouutplaint
%Pia la the place; why, therefore,thould Lb! I ieeh e be refused?
As to the noise of vehicles leaving, why it would le ovum as
reasonable to hold Lord or Lady Palmerston resporithlti for
the noise muted by the 160 tentage, leering tittle mansion
tarter a party and rattling along Piccadilly, as to make Mr.
Sinipien amenable for the wound of cab wheels in the
vicinage of Cremona. Apply the argument to thorough-
fares adjacent to railway stations, or to l'arlimient-etro t
after an important division, which ale old bike
place after, se Lord Macaulay said, the em had shone
in upon them. With respect to diminution in the value of
j nip rty, Mr. Simpson woe tho largest ratepayer in the
pirieh; he bed spent :10,003/. on hie property, and
ned. brought boomer, to the ntaghlourhoud. In con-
clarion, hs would nay the police were in the gar-
dens every night—thee had not dere4 to call one as
a mime.. Ile should call no evidence, bat would
appeal to the absence of each evidence on rim other side.
If Cremorne wee a public IlaiNUICa let it be inhere], and
the properly constituted tribunalof the country could deter-
mine whether at was a nuisance on not. How could Mr.
Simplon, or the proprietor Many other public place, my to
a fetels of respectable apparatus., " Yon are iv guy woman,
and I won't let-you in The statement that melt females
had the privilege of stlmiteitta we. mete to induce the
bench to think that such character' were induced to
visit the place. Mr. Nimpeon lied kept faith with
the tnegistratee, end Lid menmemint of hie extensive ger-
dem s tsod unisopagned. Why woe Lie licence not to be
again intrusted to hie hand,, when if he did wrong the
luneistratie meld apply the remedy next lit taiimug day"? It
bad been ealommously stated the Cremona wee the recant
of the refuse of the people. That was es f4llO so the amertion
about the tree het. It was not the retum of the pope who
attended the gardens the other day w hen the beinat for tht
aufferers by the Indian notsiny was given, and Mr. Situp eni
placed the prorceee-3001.—in the Minis id the Led Mayor;
nor when the benefit era, given in aid of the Wellington
Fund. li. did not wish to parole Mr. Simpson fur bis
charitable or patriotic acts, but lee bed a right to say at Icevt
that much of him, when foul nod unfounded topetsiona W,TO
east upon his character, and upon that of the important VA-
tahliebutent, which, under his lowlier, bad really prove I a
public boon.

Some applauee followed the learned grntleptan's addersry
which wee listened to with the drennet attention.
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Mr. Tobba, chairman of tho Kensington ilivieion, :ate' he•
had felt it LI, duty to attend to support Mr. Simpeon, wish
alma, Gonda, t the licensing Illagimmtes •em fully and en-
tirely eati,liad. There bed never been a r••mpleint against
him, and be billed this court would r ~,t
readily as that below granted If ncera-
wary, be should move that the licenco Le unconditionally
granted.
Thin araa Peron& d.

Mr. Woodward moved as an a•nendwent that it be a eon-
dition of the lawneo that on person t.• admitted to the glr-
de= after 12 e*, lark at night, the., rid:tared prior to that
hour to be allowed to remain as lens to tho proprietor
thought aft.
This was monied. .

Mr. inTseteealznade a few obervatjuaq, loping that it