The Express.
London, England, 1861-07-09 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 9, 1861.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

BOUM OF LORD&MONDAY, JULY &
The LORD CALNCILLOR look b mat upon the woolsack
at 5 o'clock.

PRIVATE BIIRINESS.

Os the action thee the Oidway Harbour Bill be read a
naiad time,
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that the bill was
merely for pavan cif renemeting a clams which paned
the bare last year. Be had pigtail' to present to their
lordships I. Lamar of the bill, as behalf of the ratepayers,
bet that petit/an was presented solely on the understanding
that the Meant pocket antreet would be carried out. haw
mach as that sant/set was see to be rammed, he begged to
mess that the bill be withdrawn from the motion paper.
The Earl of CLANCARTY thought the noble marina
was fully justified in taking the course he proposed ; but
the bill was so vicious in pnaciple, and was so palpably un.
jest towards the unrepresented body of ratepay en in Gel.
way, that be (the Berl of Clancarty) regretted that, instead
of being withdrawn, it bad sot been formally rejected by
their lordships.
Tbu motion for the second reading of the bill was with-
drawn.

that proposal communications took plea with the Castle,
sod the result we., owing to objections takes by Captaia
Crofton and other', the arrangement was not carried into
effect. He found from a letter dated the 17th of May, that
on the 3rd of that month General Lamm wrote that it we.
not intended to fill up the vacancy till time had been given
to judge whether Om service required h. On the 24th of
May he received a letter containing the propel about Cap-
tain Barlow, and as icon as he (Mr. Cardwell) bad NOMIOII
the sanction of the Treasury to the arrangement, he wrote
asking for • statement of the results of the arrangements
whoa =perigee. should have enabled • judgment to be
funned with regard to it.

Kr.
iIIiFf;RESENTATIERKELEY giO,Ne OnFtGLOgaCtEtiER.
he
should ask whether it was the intention of the government
to to introduce • clause in the Election Law Amendment Bill
for the disfranchisement of Gloucester for five years, and
whether that penal sentence ought to be retrospective ?
PUBLIC WALKS IN THE METROPOLIS.
Mr. SLANEY pm notice that on Friday, the 12th of
July, he should ash the First Commissioner of Woods and
Forests whether it was intended to throw open the teemoe at 1
the back of Sootareet-hotee to the public at such hours and
- ander each regulations as might be determird upon. and I
whether • pubkie walk would be provided at the south-east
d Loris,. sear Beramodsey, in acoardance with the no
sommeedatiken el the committee which sat on the subject?
RESTS FOR PORTER&
Mr. MAXEY also gave notice that he should alto ask
on Friday next whether the Metropolitan Board of Works
co the vestries of the mettopolis intended to
met Jr pee
Swishes. pernearnyies,
_im-
am, and se ideither - each Peer would be peuelded 04
UN err el the
THE NEW FOREIGN OFFICE DESIGNS.
Oa the motion for going into committee of supply.
Load ELCHO roes to move that in the awoke of this
Loose it is not desirable that the new Fotirip-ofilee should
bilerected according to the Palladian design now exhibited
fa • committee-room of the house. Tie building
=was to be needed. en the site for the new as sise- 1
was the special design made by the Prime Ifi
hibraelf, sod be thought la should be able to show Gil
this ems the feet ; net, bedded, that the Prism Mideler bed
with his own bead made the drswing, bat that it wee es
much the work of the Prime Minister as any despeeth that
ear ever written by a Foreign-office clerk was the week et
his noble friend at the head of the foreign department. Ie
the essential qualities of oak oneverenee, sad light, the
Gelltle was preferable to the Irina style for the Ferelpo
°Mee. He did not, however, wish to the hew to
any style, but urged sit to be careful in se eltiodag• alp.
amid Dot adopt or that tioukt lead to great expense and not
be creditable to the counWy. Our street architecture, he
observed, wee mesa rough already, and he celled upon the
home not to he • party to its further degradation.
Mr. C. BUXTON seconded the motion.
Mr. OOWPER mid neither the noble lord who made the
motion nor the bon. gentleman who seconded it, rpm*
to express any decided partiality for either style, but the
noble lord had spoken ' with extraordinary contrept of
Italian architecture, which he said had loot its hell as lei
lie opinion. People were very apt to attribute to sahib
opinion their own opinion—(hear, hear)—and be 1•11
happened to hear opinion upon these two 'designs, Jur the I
revere of those which had been heard by hie Delis
friend. Illustrious architects and other persons 411111••
peter to form a judgment upon the queteliss
had told him that Mr. Brit's Palladian drip
did him the greatest credit, and bore the palls ever
all buildings hitherto erected in that style In the muds, I
It did the highest credit to Mr. Scott, who wee • Goals I
architect, to have achieved our success in • Paliadisa *
sign. It was not, therefore, fair to Mr. Scott to give Ile
entire credit of the design to the noble lord at the lord lir
the government. (A laugh.) Mr. Scott had hest east fat
the usual course whether he would mks a diets ie the
Palladian style, and with a just eneliderie In his
own powers be had undertaken to do so. The
question was, which was the national style? Strictly
speaking, we had no national style, unless, indeed, we went
to Stonehenge for our designs. But the style in which we
VW* generally accustomed to erect our buildings was what
wee called the Italian style, as it was the beet suited to mo-
dem hfe. London as a city was no doubt built in the
'sham or the horizontal style. When the house had to
select the style of the new Foreign-office, they ought to
look gist to the question of convenience, and the style which
united the greatest number of conveniences was no doubt
the haw Assuming that in regard to 0011•016111100 and
swum, they bad made a good choice, they bad seat to
osepider the question of association. It wee an advantage
to have • building so built that persons should know from
looking at it what wee the purpose for which it was in-
tended. Cherokee for this reason were built in the pointed
style. It was mama that in the erection of the Heuer of
Parliament • style should be chosen connected with the
period when this house first acquired its liberties. But
with roped to the Foreign-office, there was no reason why
it should be associated with past times. On the contrary,
they wanted all the serrations of the Foreign-clam to be
connected with the present. Another material object meet
be to mate a new building look well, grouped with the build-
ings in its neighbourhood. This Foreign-office was to be fa
canneries with Italian buildings. If any on tisvened the
town from north to south, in passing through Repot-street
or Belgravia, by Charing-cross dowu to Parliament-start,
he would find nothing but Italian buildings, and theForeign-
office, the culminating point of the whole, ought to harmo-
nise with the rest. Another object is building so Modems
an edifice was that it might give pleasure to those who
looked at it. He undertook to soy that for or person who
took delight in • Gothic building, there were 30 who derived '
greater *rum from an Italian building, and he referred to
the example of Paris to show the estimatka in which
the Italian style was held at the poser dr.
Upon than grenade he thought the ge verseles•
were justified in asking the house to pont the vote width
they would propose, and which would be expended la the
ciectlem of a building of the design represented by the eb•
entice end drawing now in the Tea Room. His noble bird
seemed especially anxious to exclude that design, bat kw
trusted the house would not l.114)11t to the proposition.
Mr. LAYARD would recommend that the arise et M.
Scott should be referred to a committee el peide.
men, members of that
house, who asdewleed the
to matter and who would be able to out
improvements. Be understood Mr. Scott was to do
this. If some alterations were made in the Gothic he
believed it would meet with the approbation of
the house and of the country. (Hear, hear.)
That which was meet required was colour, and the different
quarries of the country would afford abundant materials
from which a really fine and beautiful building could be
erected, one which would satisfy the house and the
country. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. 127.`E ridiculed the notion of introdusing ries inde
Gothic buildings. It wee about the met wasolesse
proposition he had ever heard in oonnectioe with delis
architecture, and he challenged the hon. member to
out any Gothic building of repote in which or of
colour was to be found. The introduction of terra err
material into structures of the Gothic character would be •

great misfortune asst mutake~ Having quoted the
opinion of Mr. &Alen in favour of the Italian style
of architecture, the hon. member expressed a lope
that the matter would be left in the hoods of
the executive government. 11 that were done he
felt Aided that the new Foreign-office would be no dia-
gram to Ered, but on the contrary, they would have • lino
buildingWapted to the purposes for which it was intended.
The Gothic Aryl* of architecture was the right thing in the
right place, but that pima wee not the House of Commons
or the Foreign-Mies (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. /dANNICRS Add the house should deal with
this question upon the principle of common seam Ave
architect had been appointed for this work, and the styled
tats work naturally followed the appointment. Mr. Scott
was the int Gothic architect of the day, and ought to have
had fair play; whereas the First Minister said to him,
" Yoe shell meet the building in the only style which lea
found favour in my sight." This was not fair to Mr. Scott,
or to the other architects who had had premiums for de-
signs in the Italian style.
After some remarks by Mr. D. Forrest-Mt,
Mr. OSBORNE wished to know, not the style of the
building, but what it would cost. He thought that the
whole thing should be reopened for competition. He warned
the house to be upon its guard ; it was the worst building
committee in the world.
Lord PALMERSTON—The battle of the books, the
battle of the big-radians and the little-endiaus, the battle
of the green ribanda and the blue ribands were as nothing
compared with this battle of the styles. (A laugh.) But I
mar say I think that if I was to pro an
impartial verdict as to the issue, I should
say that the Gothic has bra entirely defeated.
(Laughter.) The noble lord who sits opposite
made it a reproach to me that whereas he, an ardent sod
enthusiastic devotee, as my bun. friend has called him, of
the Gothic, appointed Mr. Scott as architect, superseding
those who had won the highest prices, and therefore
stepping out of the way, of proper selection—that whereas
he appointed not say solely and entirely, he.
cause Mr. Scott has great professional merits, but merely
became he was versed in Gothic architecture—that on that
coconut, I who succeeded him differing with him in opinion
as to the style, but out of deferetme to Mr. Scolifs vested
claiais,having conferred upon him the appointment of archi-
tect, I was obliged to adopt, therefore, not only the
architect, but the style of the noble lord. That is cer-
tainly requiring a gnat deal too much by a parra
who leaves ellise of the person who moss is
his pier. (Hear, bear.) I have heard it made a reproach
to a new gerromont that they have adopted the measures
el their psideesemon, bet I think it ought to be no re-
roar to me that I did not follow their example in the
Mosel imelare. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord laid great
strew upon what Ise asserted to be the prevailing taste r
exemplified by the mere of the country. He mentioned
lam towns, bet be kept that some of the noblest edifier
is User large km= are in the Italian style. He talked of
Liverpool, bull he forgot the St. Goorge's-halL