The Express.
London, England, 1850-03-01 00:00:00

ENCROACHMENTS ON THE ROYAL palm:

Tanana% DUNCAN inquired what steps had been taken I
by the Woods tad F07111.L1 C.mmistioners to enforce the
provisions of the lease, with r, gird to the prevention of en- '
acoschmena on the Green-pare in the case of the &al of
Eli. amore's massfae, entl whether the garden walls of that
mansion nastily erected seat tae park and encroaching
thereon bad been built with the knowledge and permission
of the nessaissionen?
Mr. HAY [ER replied that there Fad been no encroach-
ment; in the case of the gardens to which the noble lord
referred. Na doubt there had beta an alteration is the
garden itself itvreduced by the architect in the erection of
the ornamental walls which Lad been built to give it an
Italian character. That erection was no encroachment,
though It was inconsistent with the covenants of the lease,
and on the Commilionen at the Wads and Forests being
made aware of it they directed their architect to C31131311312i-
t ite with the architect of the Earl of Ellesmere, to arrange
with him for the removal ot the erection in qusstion. It bad
rat yet been removed, but the two architects were in con-
salt atioa on the subject, and there was no intention, he be-
lieve..., on the pert of the noble earl, and certainty none on
the pat of the Woods and Forest., to act inconsistently with
the covenants of the feat,. (Hear.)
Vitcount DL:NCAN then asked for information al to cer-
tain rumoured encroachments in Greenwich Park, referred
to in a letter in • morning pap-r of Saturday last. His gun-
Cat woe whether any part el Greenwich Park was about to
be et c-oached en to provide residences for the Commiser ionen
of Greene ieh Hapital, or for any otta purpose ?
Mr. HATTER was much obliged to his noble friend for
rtittiegt the question, because he hoped the answer he should
a.cs would allay all apprehensions on the pert of the inhabi-
tants of Greenwich that there was any design or intention
n the part of the Contusion men of Woods and Forest. or
the Commissioners of Greenwich Hospital to interfere with
their comforts cr their property. The Commissioners of
Greezwich Hospital had recently Ives carrying out certain
imp:tvensentr, by wts'eh they Vinod the duties of the
hosp'tal and the comforts of its inmates might be consider-
ably improved. la the warn of those improvements they
designed to erect certain buildings on • portion of the pro-
tante which lasloeged, not to the Commie loners of liVeods
rid Forest., but to the Commissioners of Greenwich Hos-
path and it was 'oersted that a small ornamental garden,
taint the perk, should be aided to the houses 93 about to'
be halite Teat portion of the park was under the control
and management of the Commies:once.' of Woad/ and
Foreqs, and at Sett they P‘Til their assent to the proposed
alteratiers, but on a representation being made to them by
the thkshitants of the opposite houses that the buildings
shout to be erected wail interrupt their view
Li the path and their property be interfered with,
their remonstrances were eassidered by the commissioners of
Welts and Fuftill and the commissioners of Greenwich
Hospital ; and atthouteh the latter commissionas had a
perfect eight to ant the buillires in the way they had con-
templated, yet, in defences to the ;violas of the public end
the intabitents of the neigbbouthon I, sad believing they could
peanuts the accommodation they required elsewhere with-
out interfering with the comforts or deteriorating the pro-
perty of anybody, they re s Ito ab mit,* their orig.nai
intention, aid erect the bowies not on that but on a different
spat (Cheers.)

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Mr. BARNiRD btotred to thaok the ken. gtotleman fox
La siva leuthAtary 'tamer.

DENMARK AND PRUSSIA.

Mr. SANDARS NM notice of a quenila for tomorrow
wh:ch was annerstood to refer to the refusal of Prussia to
r a•w t►e aro idice with Deem•rk.

FEES IN COURTS OF JUSTICE (IRELAND).
Mr. SCULLY infrared whether th,-re wee any measure it
c attewpl►tica to trkulate the fc!ii paid to the chelts of the
Irish courts ?
Sit W. SOMERVILLE treied that a bill was in awns
praparatioa, bat he could lilt at reuse state the details.
POOR LAW (IRELAND) ELECTORAL DIVISIONS.
if 1). NORREYS the qu: sues of which he had
viz., whether there would be any ohJeetioet cu
• tart olptereliest 04 refer VD,- len the effect of Use

4trels
law el 'Parlament la Zealand tour rAA poor law boaada.ry
C Maisiciates, with dircctloos to them to sport to Ma
whethar the elywnatira ertslned therein will be appiicable
to Inlrd. Also wh, that Milligan considered that than
yet:, any eireamaracto peculiar to Inland which should
arrant Omar mulls lollowitia a diminution of Vie area of
the aleneral Car rus'r hal tak is place in li-viand ; also
varlet I.,ey miald give the house ai oppatuaily of
v. arming as opinion ou the wrist, of reducing the are
ad the electoral dat.aiera la Ireland ?

Me O. ORGY replied that it wee not the Intention of the
rovernamat to refer the reports •.n the law of settlement in
Euiland to the Irish boundary COMIII/1140111M. iaastauels as
*fro being no law of settlement in Ireland those reports
would not apply. With regard tot)** knit part of the quo.
lion, whether goveranient intended to girt an opportunity
for express= en opinion as to the reports of tie boundary
eownissionery, three reports were ea the table, and in the
last reports of the peer law ecoaniseteaors they entered late
detail of the 611,11•0101 which bad been taken for ellTf) ing
than reeenrinandatioos into effete: it was not thereto's the
ilVtatioi of the merman to propose any IllJtion on Nu
subject.

WESTERN AUSTRALIA.
Its answer to Sir W Not,c6NVOKTH,
The ATTORNEY.OENERAL said that the act giving a
government to Western Australia had expired, but the
authority of that government still remained.
In reply to Mr. ADDIMLET, who asked whether the
oxidise Australian goverment had authority to levy Wm,
The ATTORNEY-OENERAL said that, by the act of
the 10th Oto. IV., that government " had the power to do
everything for the prom. lion of good government," mid he
added (amid general laughter) that the levying tame was
alw-ys admitted to be a part 01 good government.
PARLIAMENTARY REFORM.
Mr. HUME moved f e leave to bring M a bill to GOMM
the rightisml repro/natation, he extending the females
to every ntepayer of full age and sound intellect,
and by fuming that votes shall be taken by ballot.
The demonstrati ins mile by public meetings is favour of
reform during the put twelve in inch' encoursged him, not-
withstanding the adv. rse result of the disirions of the lest
two sessions, to pre.' the subject once mote
upon the attention of thi house, in the hope
that, after mature consideration, they would be induced to
lend to it a favourable ear. His object was to restore the con-
stitution of the house to what it was in principle, and what it
was avowed by its supporters to be; and, after due consi-
deration, he had come to the conclusion that he could not
improve the constitution of the house, or bring it beck to its
original principle, without extending the elective franchise
to a large extent. (Hear.) Uriv.rsalsuffragewasdemanded
by the people. He thought every man who I aid taxes
ought to be represented—(hear, hear)—that tax-
ation and representation formed the con'raet of
Englishmen, and that he who withheld that deprived gar
lishmen el their tights. (Chem.) This was his broad
assertion ; this was the point to which he went. Then came
the consideration, how to carry out and obtain this c gage
from an unwilling power, a power that could grant, but was
unwilling to c muds the people's rights. He was obliged to
lay down mice rails in order to draw a line of distinction
Our present aets of parliament drew a line ef distinction.
Tasy had pointed cut who shout 1 pram ss the franchiss , end
of what the vaiification ahoul 1 onset. It would be some.
what curious if he were to show that the principle on which
our present representation rested was very diffetent from
that which he held the constitution of this
goontry meant. Looking at tho principle on
which that house was constituted, and on which
popular representation rested, he asked whether the
present retamed parliament had not been based on princi-
ples altogether at variance with that great, general, and
admeable one of taxation and reprea.ntation being ca.
existent? (Hear.) He held in his hand a letter written by
Lord Melbourne to Mr. Drummond in 1532, stating the
grounds on which the ROTc/I1 client of that dry intended to
carry out the Reform B.U. His lordship saes "In the
former tell boroughs were regarded in proportion to
their population, but in the present rose the elements
upon which the boroughs are to he estimated are by the
number of the houses and the amount of the assessed taxes."
' Now, hero woe the principle on which the Reform Bill of
1232 had been effected. He (Mr. Hume) had agreed to
that Reform Bill, and had supported it throughout, because
he expected it would have given that degree of control
to the people over the members of that hou.e which would
enable good and cheap t °Yemen% to be achieved. Me
now came publicly forward and said that in that rapist he
had been much disappointed ; and, therefore, he asked the
house to reconsider the basis on which that rerun had bees
granted and to extend, if possible, the numbers of the
electors who were to have a voice in the election of numbers
of the legislature. ((hear, hear) He had already stated
that " universal " suffrage was demanded. This was a
word not much liked, and very often not well understood,
but he did not repudiate it, because, if there was any par-
ticular mode by which he could obtain the voice of every
man in the election of members of pubescent. he Amid
only he carrying out the principle of the constitution of this
couu'ry, as he could show by quoting the opinions
of some of the ablest men of past times. (Hear,
bear.) Hs wished to state at the ouseet that,
not being able to effect universal suffrage, as he inzuld wish
to do, he adopted the nest best course. He took that
which was tangible, easy to be carried out, and of whisk
so man need be afraid. He therefore begged not to be
understood by any hon. member as proposing that which
was ideal, or fanciful, or difficult of accomplishment. He
merely ask-d of them to agree to his mstien on this dis-
tinct ground—that taxation and representation should be
earricd as far as possible consistent with registrain and a
proper check against abase. (War, hear.) He might be
said that every man in the country pail taxes whother he
was rated or not, and he admitted that, by our present err
tem of iadireet taxation, this was true ; but he held it to bar
almost impossible to have the principle adopted that every
man who smoked tobacco or drank gin should have a vote.
He had, therefore, adopted another principle—one which
bad not been deemed unworthy the attention of her Majes-
ty's government in the ease of Ireland—that of taxation and
enrolment to the poor law rating. (Hear, hear.) If he
meld obtain any more certain data then the poor law he
would adopt it. He thought that in proposing his plan to
the house he wen bound to point out the facility with which
that plan could be carried out ; and if, in adopting the cri-
terion of the poor rate as the rate to give the franchise, be
could show that there was a register kept of all he rJquireil,
that no expense would be occasioned butted that aiready
incurred, and that every man mussed to the pore rate
should have ;the opportunity of voting for the election !
of a member of parliament, and that all this could be done
without delay, be should do a great deal towards disarming
and removing opposition. (lieu.) Ile should go further;
be thought it of importance that every plan of reform and
change should be cautiously made, well consi lerid, and not
hastily adopted. Anxious as he was for reform, he confessed
that he had lived long enough to see many reforms carried
that were not improvements; and he would not ask the
home to adopt anything which he believed was not salutary,
easy of accomplishment, and likely to be advantageous to
the mmmunity. His motion would give contentment and
peace to tr.' country, by bringing within the pale of
the constitution a large number of individuals who
were now excluded—of worthy men, equally capable
if not more capable of exercising the franchise than those
who now enjoyed it. He was called on to answer to what
extent hie reform wculd go He would not disturb the feel-
ings of any man by wishing improper persons to obtain the
franchise. He would have a test, and that test should be a

mere residents,. He proposed a regist.r to the tax for twelve
months, and that every man paying it shout l come wittin
" the scot and lot " principle. Ti.. being rated was ell he
asked, and what he wanted was, to have a test of the re-
spectability of the man. Every man, therefore, who was
rated to the poor, and who mould lie rated and resident for
twelve months in a locality, should be di facto entitled to
vote; sad it should be the duty of the officer
to send in the name of each voter without trouble, expeise,
or delay. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) The next question
he would be asked was, to what extent would this increase
the suffrage ? Many had been alarmed at numbers. He
was not. He believed that the more the house depended on
the people the more trustworthy would be the ursize the
people rendered. He also believed that the man who had
not a voice given him by the constitution in the election of
those who were to pus laws affscting life and property was
no free man—he was in the situation eta bondsman and a
slave. (" Haar, bear," and cheers.) And, upon this subject
he wished to state that ha did not want anything
for England which he did not also demand for
Scotland and Ireland. (Loud cheers.) In reply, then, to
the question as to what extent of suffrage the plan would
lead, he begged to °beery:: that he had only been able to
obtain correct information as regarded Euglead. That in.
formation amounted to this, that in 1841 the population was
15,911,000, or, in round numbers, 16,000,000. Now, what
proportion of electors would this give ? Taking every rate-
payer registered to the rate, taking a etpy of the rate•botks
for his date, and striking off the double, treble, and quad-
ruple votes, he believed the number of men entitled
to vote in the Ilaited Kingdom am .seated, at the
present moment, to 780,000 or 600,000. This
was the ()Maids. Taking the register es it was
in the year 1841, he wished the house to understand that he
would give by his plan 3,232,762 voters for Kugland and
Watts alone. Scotland and Ireland would each produte its
proportion; and this war the extent to which he was pee-
-1 ared to ask the house to enlarge the franchise. (Hear.)
fhe question might be witted—weed not the titian exclude
many individuals? It wou'd. If he were to take thoAt only
who were assessed to the rate, registered as at present, be
left out, perhaps, one million more. Artisans and lertgen
were equally respectable, end equally, if not better, fitted
for the franchise than those who now possess: d it, ai.d he
would propose that every lodger might register
or be registered to the poor rate for the house in which he
lived, and that if he should be so registered for one y.-ar be
should be equally competent acd entitled to exercise the
franchise as it he were the entire possessor of the basso.
(Hear, bear,) This was the extent to which he carried Ids
plan of registration ; and now what was the danger arising
trim this extension ? Was it not proved to every man who
had attended to the history of neighbourinsi "dates that when
power was confined to narrow places, and v.° masses of the
people were treated not as fro-men but as ecrfs, danger arose
from such a mate of things, and anarchy and confusion foi-
-1 .wed ? lied we not seen in this country the advantages of
having seine kind of representation, limited and imperfect as
that was? What bad they to fear from the:people ? Wilat would
hon. !umbel, say if they were in the situation of the millions
who were sow excluded from all political rights and privi-
lege. ? What would any of them say or do were they in the
aitucion of mill one of artir.ns, on whose industry some of
the finest manufactures depend, d—(hear, hear)—receiving
11, M. or 31. a week, and who would be called upon to eanl,t
is keeping the Qautiti peace should a disturbance break
out whilst they were walking the streets? Were not those
azi-ans entitled to say, " You call on us to execute the laws,
but do you give us any share or interest in making those
Laws ? You treat us as eerie, and drive as like cattle, and yet
you c4l epos us to support the law. How are we
interested is the law ? Yen take money from
as in every form, on everything we eat or drink. You
take from us our earnings. This one-third or one-fourth
of our industry you take, and you rass laws to grind us
,'own. How are we interested in Um law 1" (" Hear, hear,"
and cheers.) Whilst men of large incomes were taxed a
thousandth part, a bun "rub part, er a twentieth part of
their earnings, the attis..n was taxed one-fourth of his
whole wsges on his consumption of the ordinary articles of