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THE time is fast approaching when men must
speak out, and openly avow their opinions on
public questions. Statesmen are slow to disclose
their personal prejudices, and embarrass a party
by an unguarded expression of individual feeling.
We, therefore, take Lord PALMERSTON'S speech on
the Irish Church Temporalities as indicative of
the existence of the growing necessity to which
we have alluded. The noble VISCOUNT must
have felt the full force of the pressure from
without when, in answer to Mr. MIALL'S
motion, he felt constrained to say :—" Enter-
" taining a deep, a settled, and a rooted con-
" viction—that a church establishment is essential
" in every country in which it is thought desirable
" that religion should be diffused and inculcated
" on the minds of the population, being perfectly
" determined never to agree to the substitution of
" the voluntary system for that of an establishment,
" seeing that the motion goes directly to a point
" which I am anxious to avoid, and believing also,
" with reference to that part of the motion relating
" to Ireland, that it would be at variance with the
" engagements contracted between the two coun.
0 tries at the period of the Union, I feel compelled
" to give my vote against the proposition of my
" hon. friend." Now, all those who have read Mr.
MIALL's speech attentively, will have observed that
the honourable member never said one word about
substituting the voluntary system for the Estab_
lished Church system of Ireland.

Mr. MIALL neither attacked the creed, discipline,
or revenues of the Irish Church establishment. He
merely asked the House to resolve itself into a com-
mittee to " consider" the Temporalities of the Irish
Church, and other provisions made by law for
religious teaching and worship in Ireland ;
and, to avoid being misrepresented, he had
prepared three resolutions embodying the precise
objects he had in view ; and that these may not be
misconstrued, we give them at length :-
1. That it is expedient to make provision for the applica-
tion to other than eccleEiastical uses of all sites, glebes,
tithes, rent-charges and estates, at present enjoyed or
received by any c:erical person of the Protestant Episcopal
communion in Ireland for the support of Divine worship
according to the rites of the said communion; but so as not
to effect in any manner existing life-interests, and to pay
due regard to any equitable claims which may arise out of
the secularization of such property,

2. That it is expedient to exclude from the estimates
annually presented to this Hnusa an amount of the grant
commonly called the Regium Donum, all sums on account
of new congregations—and also to reduce the said grant,

The Irish Church has become, as "Mr. MIALL
very truly remarked, a mere political engine,
instead of a great spiritual agent working in the
hearts and hands of Irish society. The over-
worked clergyman gets little more than a pauper's
share of the rich bounties the State lavishes on the
recipients of its munificence. And yet, while there
are numbers of poor working parsons, whose
incomes are too small to admit of their devoting
the whole of their time to their spiritual duties,
we are told that Church property cannot be redis-
tributed, without endangering the existence of the
Established Church itself ! The Premier has been
made to say that we are a " practical people ;" and
the noble lord cannot be surprised if the country
should reject such puerile reasoning, nor can he
wonder if a question should be raised as to the
consistency of declaring " a deep, settled, and
" rooted conviction" that an Established Church, of
a fixed and distinctive character, is essential
to the well-being of society, and sanctioning,

almost with the same breath, grants to rival
churches, thereby raising them to equal power and
importance in the State. Happily, the eccentri-
cities of statesmen can have but little influence on
Protestantism, in the broad acceptation of the
word. We are wholly indebted to the voluntary
system, for the progress which Scriptural know-
ledge and faith have made ; and let whoever may
enjoy the loaves and fishes of the State Church,
England will continue, voluntarily, to fulfil her,
Christian mission ; and although the Established,
or State-endowed, Church of Ireland may, one day,
be Protestant simply ; and the next, a sort of poli-
tical trinity, or incomprehensible union of three
religions in one establishment, comprised of Pro-
testant, Roman Catholic, and Presbyterian, the
Protestant voluntary system will accomplish what
no Established Church has done—spreading the
Bible all over the tale of the habitable globe !

THE

BIRKENHEAD
BILL.

DOCKS

HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY NIGHT

The committee re-assembled at twelve o'clock to-day.
Sir William Clay in the chair. The other members
present were Sir Joseph Paxton, Mr. Esmond, Sir
Edward Dering, and Mr. J. C. Ewart.
The examination of Mr. Rendell, C.E., was continued.
He considered that the passenger traffic, accruing to the
Birkenhead and Cheshire Junction railway company
would be very much interfered with, if the great low
water basin was abandoned. The accommodation pro-
vided by the low water basin was much greater than
would be afforded by the proposed landing-stage at the
Woodside basin. The wharfage accommodation also of
the retention of the low water, was much greater than
could be otherwise provided. The wharfage frontage
would not be less than 800 feet. The interests of the
general public would be consulted.
By Sir Joseph Paxton : I have contemplated the
railway station being placed on the south reserve, and
there I think it ought to go, as being most advantageous
to the public.
By Mr. Webster : The Birkenhead docks, the area of
which is about ten acres, would accommodate sixty yes.
sels of an average size, besides river craft. He did not
think that, with one entrance, as proposed by Mr. Hart-
ley, the trade of 150 acres in the Great Float could be
carried on. If so, there could be no doubt that an
enormous sum of money hal been thrown away at Liver-
pool, but he did not say that Mr. Hartley had thrown
away money at Liverpool in this respect, because he did
not think so. In Liverpool there were eighteen
entrances to an area of 170 acres, and therefore it was
obvious tillt one entrance to an area of 150 acres was
altogether insufficient. He originally designed to have
a lock in the north reserve, but he was compelled to give
up this idea in consequence of the land being in the
occupation of the Liverpool corporation. He was
strongly in favour of a lock there, and had always
advised it, and the opposite party ought to remember
that opinion before condemning him.

The witness here read foom a report of Mr. Hartley,
senior, published in )844, in reference to the emptying
of the mud flats, in the tidal way of the Mersey. Mr.
Hartley called it a " fluid mud," and, therefore, it
appeared to him, that Mr. Hawksley could not be correct
when he stated that the silt of the river was " sementi-
tious matter." He (Mr. Rendell) therefore thought he
had good grounds for wishin4 to carry out his plans, as
he had originally proposed. The witness was examined
for a considerable time longer, but his evidence was
more of a technical than a general character, having
reference to the volume of tidal water iu the Mersey,
and its velocity. The witness was still under
examination when the committee adjourned to Monday
next.