The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-24 00:00:00

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• of thrr own 11,03111, have declated atoms.
~ education. la speaking to a genthataa
no one can deny-1 mean 8w James Stevens—
. ter„ot Roden History at the Uaie the ty of Cue.
oa.ng what lectern he gave, ssid, that
err i'••-,•...4 ups to give we lecture a week, lad
cue hour to vas hour mad • hell is
ease,* say that that is sufficient instruction
vw year, mem to be iastructed is tech a sub-
it it sumer,
ern I to conanee the 'declaim *hide
y the pun sem according to the 'yam Vojeh
al. ;"*:..4 vied with the ancient Collegiate usenet of
which has prevailed in the univenitles of this
sod etich, for one, I should be very Sony to see
Jlllllfillibed—(best, hear)—hut then, I think it
. • 4u. Neel, net wishing to introduce anythiag
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a'•••e • - ra.versities of Oslord and Cambridge have
•• :
•,r, ttrodaced by the step which they have taken
•
!.:1, to time. and the last of which we heard of
• two or three hours, not wishing to carry
• teat directive farther than th., throneless
to go—it is mist imp: neat to coastline that
• *ten: toe with coll.?, instruction, which is the
• • • ..riblhhad ande of teaching in our univenities ;
starle to this, again, is the manner is which,
et,. by the wills of the founders in many ia•
unit he tak. n from crrtein families, be
. , -nit, r, and with **Ur flllfilltiillll of the same
;• :o me, therefore, that it ought to he the ob-
.' • C Whale them• two educations is such a way that the
I the to:legto should be found to be the meu who
best iarancted, not only in ela.sice and
cr• cr. bet aloe in these various breaches
- end that they might to dines the
• •ung ma. not solely and exclusively to those
et etudes in whaah they have hither:co taught
..! :bey should be able to atria end guide then in
• ..r.: nal irate:Hon which, without that gladiator,
mach ha in is effect. I owe Met it does
sr t, se that there ie say such great difficulty is
• t a :Nett, bat it does seem it is as object which
: • a:tata.d by th. universities them-elm; that is
' ••14le : the separate colleges and tutivinities
, • lot the power, .:apt in rare Ismaili's%
~:cu•red from time to time wh. with great
• r Lave bona able to discover that Uri
• •hich they olefin extra.* in shaving and
rta•ters, but at. r have not the ;newer el
.te Fes to ephi.ch I have alluded.
dtsaLble to mak- three changes, is there any
• • son wby they shtiht rot be &tempted? I
• : w mot appear to me three is any such uncle.
, re. only redsna that could be alleged is, that
'O.• pay such respect to the 'Om of ail the
sou eught not I, sattrfere with the wits even
d•r-t and ineportan! good. I thick tit tt ;rieteiple
enotinwied f•r by nav hon. Weed the member
• •-. thaord, bemuse he mar allow
r thugs to which he al.eded in his
•:: .3 the drtirableneas of which I ultra with
~.agree wish other membere of this !awe,
wrich took place at the Reformation wu a
•ze .y getting aside the and Im/ratios of the
.

he purpfte, akin to the purpose for
.. • loanchde:nith mire divenity of appicstioa,
tLe wanders had directed in various in-
l• • ee..pl •p.d in a manner jastli d and =don d by
•.. estische religion. Me hon. friends yr, and sip;
• • - r.a 7, that the chatch of England reformed herself
. • use..etin ; bet we know wry will that the stave
•e.st dist ta say to the reform of ths church and
crest deal to say to the reform of the %Diver.
et if any use will lock at the list,
•.• l.• Ai of hours sad neaten of college% he will
.• rer.cie masters were appointed in the mien of
VI . and ia the time of Mary other martin were
s• craft to the tame of Elizabeth, the firmer were
cud, sad a sow head and neuter pat in his place.
may cad that "the Church of England re-
_ but in fact it was a atreag interference of
with all teat wdl and determ=atim which cheese-the two s stets Mary cad E;.s co. th. What is there
• •ert, it we hare a great otject in view, an inter-
• ea far with these wills of the loUtion as to
the I,ol:tifs to place, in the situation of fakers
• _

.cer.by t 3 in the edema n of the
of these two universities, the most espabl,
e-..at they can hod in the suivereity or eloowhert ? I
the report made on lb. outing MO. Vaiversity of
h that two of tito members et each stollen were two
• at the head of the colleges. An otketion very
.• urged in proposing a antes woe, that the mien
• rJy inspired a violation of the deeds of endowment,
. eourniesioners said that cohabiting that in the
of both untvenities the object of the (runners had
:, promote issued religion. they were not die-
to attach mock importance to an objec:ion
was d.rected gothic a fund calculated to
• three ends. They go en to say that if
in au be assomplliked without any interbrenee
• r. that will be the pnfereble manner of attaining
,nt, bet they had said what I thick lee sound prin.
tttat if you kept in view th.t which these founders had
w if be object was to promote religion and sound
to them two tariviminee, you were entiCed to its-
.ty law. I own it appears to as that with regard to
•s ativersities, thinagt my how. friend says that the
.• .t..i.r. applies only to some three or four or five of the
• tomber of era gm at °abed ; that although it may
. • •au greater number than that, yet with regard to
• :bug which are most richly endowed there is, what
• . called ia • minhanisal question, • waste of power
neat extent, whenyens ken endowments by which
• • ethic! per might be maintained and employed in
...Cl.= of a Mat number of young men. You have
• • bject to-day, owing to the manner in which the
oh:ch ought to have been so literally complied
• •in seen departed from. If this is disease, bow is
-ctto be accomplished? fioms, 1 know, say lot a bill
• oe introduced for the parpcseol enabling the waver.
• c' eoieges to make these changes, but I own it
. .• • ts a• ttat with respect to a question of AL kind,
• me other questions akin to it, the inquiry by
•• . commision would be eminently serviceable,
• ti t.d to make those change, introduced by the
• rt•ties themselves more complete and efficient.
my intention, therefore, to vote for the motion. I
•. cet the bon. member will not press it on the house ;
• • terniely our intention to advise the crown to issue a
• •••c .aimiesion to inquire into the revenues and
' : toe two of Oxford end Cambridge.7ct
• .G that no such eommlalion we issued eight or tea
• . ..to because, under the then circumstances of the
• night have had an appearance of hostility; bat
• ecmalialion be appointed, composed of pow-
- at,' have themselves been *duetted at the nal-
• ••• end who entertain a filial regard for their plan of
' •a, and it the inquiries are mede in a friendly spirit,
• *onset n3thing but advantage to result from such
said that although he had been pre-
to go along with the noble lord at the commence.
•.! cu speech, his satisfaction was much abated by lie
' • eanouncemant that it was his intention to advise
tiara to issue a commission to sequin into the nein-
', • end revenues of the ucivenities. (Cheers.) He
t. • . silt the 'obis lord that the question, as regarded
hten, must be decided by parliament, but he could not
t••• e;•.b him ss to the principle open which a commission
itsue. lit (Mr. Uoulbura) was satisfied that a oom-

•• was not a proper mode, the more especially as the
• hid already of their own volition introduced
• .1 the reforms it was intended to promote, but
• ae he believed, it would most certainly thwart sad
.• lb. noble lord rejoiced that the proposal fora cow
•• a made ten years since had bean defsat.d, so did he
• • ~.•.ulburn), and he believed that if the present proposal
•• .••.• defeated, the noble lord would rejoice es much ten
: •• recce as he did at present. (Hear, bear.) What
• • did there exist for such a emantheion ? The
antl-
fnma of examination had already been exploded,
••• • mill new branches of science had been added.
h• tl'3.•vl that the noble lord would re-consider his determi•

sod as to the present motion it wee hie (Mr. Goul-
intention to give it the most determined oppo-
L
SCCLLY regretted that the noble lord had omitted
wterence to Trinity College, Dublin from his speech, and
I, reconsideration, that he would extend the coax
r-..5.t.r. b, tl.at institution as well as the universities of Eng.
The R.man catholic, had good reason to complain of
lt.J llClusicia from that college. If the hon. member for
t".t. Laiwashire should withdraw his motion, he (11r.
world move that the oommisaion proposed by the
lard be instructed to extend its inquiry to Dublin
,teity. (Divide.)
IiZYWOOD, after the promise given la the noble
wen peewee ea withdraw his motion. ("Ni, no," and
Divide," trom the oppoeitioe.) With regard to Trinity
aye, If a substantive motion was made on a hews even-
'; to Laclede that college in the inquiry, he would support
He begged to withdraw his motion. (Cries of " No, no,'
eLI "Divide ")
Mr. It YAL3IER thought that after the announcement
..!the noble lord—an announcement made at a late hoer
tet tweeted, without any previous notice—(hear, bear)—
• house could not come to a satisfactory vote upon the
without further consideration. (Cheers from the
'..xntisa.) The proposition of the noble lord involved
itters of considimible moment, including legal points of
se imperteece. (Hear, hear) He begged to move that
•-• oiste.• be adjourned. (Cries of "No ! and Divide ! )
The question of the adjournment having been pat,
Lei J. ItU7•ShLL expiated a hope that as the hon. and
irentlestan wished for an adjournment the Louse
sot object. (Hear.) He admitted that until he roes
t debate the house had coo Intimation of his Intention' to
S the appointment of a commission of inquiry in re-
Its usavenitele, and therefore he thought the sus-
' "-oo for an wijarnwst reasonable, hat he believed
• f.,4. and horned gentian's was mistakes in
-.et at nes sot competent to **mown te hose a
• ' sow the v.natitatioa or resalable ef these noivessi-
.- simply to take *videos* volantolar elm dolfewho
*shins to give it as to the sabeseef the Ilealittoo
"al whether the metatarsi of these isellhaelensmiskt
• • 'seeded, though there might be saw Mfbeltv is
, Arise to give 'video's whether they we willies or
..t that was not what hishrordwL
..• .1. LAW thought the no ding two
•rs - tla ...suing of a C01111Millie• to state
samrsity as such, and an inquiry with the view to la-
.. 1 rs ea% ?Is Inundation of these institedele end the spe
' 'top co 1,.r which they were estabilshed. (Hew, Ms =
orameat now proposed would rye the amble
eortssaity of consulting with the lawedit= at the
• to how far the power, of the ereent extended in
. bat it appeared to him that the noble lord
it a natter of cousiderallis dlfitealg le
, se Inquiry upon • reluctant aniveesitY. (Him
Hs welted the noble lord would resensider the
' sod that if he found hinted/ wrong he world
ti1i4411141 to recede Iron the intention he had