The Express.
London, England, 1861-02-26 00:00:00

NAVY OFTIMATES.

Sir C. LEWIS informed Mr. Beillie tlrt the Navy Esti-
mates weld be taken is supply on Thursday evening next

BANKRUPTCY BILL

TM home, haviagresol;eiiieelriato a committee, re-
sumed the consideration of the details of the Bankruptcy
and lanolvency Bill, sod clauses 118 to 197 were speed to
with very few amendment', the chairman being then
ordered to report progrem.
APPROPRIATION OF SEATS (SUDBURY AND
BT. ALBANS) BILL

Sir G. C. LEWIS, in moving the *mood reading of this
bill. mil Ike may principle involved in it was thatof filling
*pas fear meant seats, and he conceived that no member in
*beg his vote far the mooed reading would cameos any
opinion ea to the particular distribution of those seats, or
be boned to vote ia favour of the particular arrangement
rimin the bill, or against any amendment which might
ovedi in committee. Union, therefore, a gentleman
thseglit that it would be advisable to keep the four
sets ems, or wished to negative the government
bill, and to allow the other tails which were known to be
in preparation by bon members to have priority of earl&
&mho°. be trusted be would vote for the second
m under such eirmonateaoss, very little edvantagen would
miss from any disciunion at this stage of the bill. If gen-
tlemen were prepared to meant to the principle of fill.
tag up the seats, it would be more congenial and lead to a
saving of time if they would reserve any opposition they
might have to offer to the measure until they went into
committee, or at all events until the motion was made that
the Speaker should leave the chair.

Mr. BAXTER had no objection to the second reading,
but wished to state that the claims of Scotland to moo of
the seats was paramount, and he trusted that a motion
would be made in committee to apportion a seat to the
Scottish Universities isstead of to Chelsea and Keosington.
Mr. BENTINCK contended that the real grievance in
ear representative system was that the rant districts did
net hams their fair share of the reprenentatioe ; and this
had been the real stumbling-block to all measures of reform
hitherto. Those districts ought to have about 140 more
members than they bed. lie held that the increase of
metropolitan boroughs would be a serious evil ; fur the
metropolitan members, though iedleiduslly most able and
estimable gentlemen, were in the aggregate a great moon.
retinas.

After a few words firma Yr. Caltelrom,
Mr. PEACOCK E esPrlmeld hi levet that the opportu-
nity was eel hikes be gtre •aired regal... Win to the work•
raatholarester, by givine we to Liverpool and
, tobe elected el elect,penning a franchise
below 10/., whams by adalheg le the metropolitan members
you inniachise no new cameo or ons.
Yr. LOCKE said the hoe. sealers for Maldoo wished
be see the working classes legnevated, which was very
gsseress of him. But what did his proposition
amount to? He would gin the seats to the
Working chines of two large Owes. If he sup-
pond that that would satisfy the vrorkieg.classes generally
be would he miserably disappointed. The hoe. member said
no more members ought to be given to the metropolis, but
he pm no reason for it, except that the preenment was
always disposed to pay attention to grieneess brought for-
ward by the metropolitan members. Bathe bad not found
that to be the eerie. As regarded Ireland, when an Irish
anger brought forward a grievance it was sure to receive
attention, from the good feeling of the Roguish towards the
Irish members. But if there wee one body of men who
knew the advantage of union better than &pother,
it was the Scotch members. It was perfectly immaterial
who was in or who was oat, they Mena Issretiser. The hoe.
member for Norfolk said the einntio isimid have more
members, but be did not ow mush sherd ponation. The
sort print was taxatios, and ea the ground bee of pope.
lotion and taxation the nekepolie was e.4lled to more
member.. The metropolis contained a population of
*early three millions, and the taxation win- far higher in
•peoport•on than that of any other district, and it
bad only IS borough members and two county mot-
ten. Upon this question of maleepolito representation
the bon. member for Norfolk did an do justice to Mama
If be drew the proper latereme hem the figures which he
had referred to he -would me that the instead of
3U, ought to have at Wet 40membses(A j
Kr. BLACKBURN said that if Bodish mats were
always to be gives to Itrigtmed, then (meld over be aro
redistribution of seats as between the dillenst parts of the
empire. If this were inheitted, he send eciesent to the
wooed reading of the bill. Net only the members for Yd.
diner, but those for Won sad West Rest might be eon'
sidend metropolitan asarbwa Them were 170 members
fee the district south of thermos., including Middlesex,
or one for every 34,754 of the pesmistioa. Bat in donna
there was only one mamba firma y 114,000. (Hear, hear.)
Re bad no objection to siditicesel members for Lancashire,
Yorkshire, and Bonehead ; but he elitreted le es increase
of the metropolitan members. Middlesex, with 157,005 In. '
habitants. bad two imageben, whilst Ismarkshire, with
' 300,000, had only one. What ebbs had Chelsea and
shigton ? What did they pew, what did they produce?
Asadnigus and cauliflowers. (laughter.)
ENFIELD said that !harsh penonalitiee had been
bandied about in the course of the debate, he rejoined to
find that there was no real objection to the proposal of the
government. He was glad that the government had taken
this duty upon themselves. In Drill, Mr. Disraeli had said
—in words of wisdom. if be would forgive him for saving
se—(laughter)—that the duty of keeping up the number
of members of the house devolved upon the government
sod not epos private members. He fully concurred with
We Bentinek, that the rural districts had • right to their
fell share of representation ; but when be used that a
greater weight of taxation win borne by those districts than
Lay the boroughs, did he include schedule A tidy. or eche.
doles A sail D? If he included the two in his comparison,
he would find that the boroughs had a larger shun of
Welke than the comities. H. (Lord Enfiekl) would
' gladly advocate the claim of the Scotch universities; but
as they bad four Engin% borough sate to dispose of.
the boroughs unreprensted in England had a prior
Halm. As • metropolitan mambo. hs was mina that any
me who brought forward I. the house a case in a fair and
proper tenser received the Omen attention and courtesy
from both rides of the non Is committee on the bill be
should be able to show that although the government bed
only assigned one seat to Chelsea aid Kensington, those
plans had a good claim ten. mats (Cheers and laughter
from the Opposideed Seibold show that by population,
by intelligeoce, and by their contributions under schedules
A an D to the income tax, those boroughs had a ha'
claim to two members.

Mr. C. 3LIICS aid that the first coasideratios of the
should have Men where there was the greatest
the lead possibility of bribery, and the
greatest amount of ietellimince. He thought diet the claim
of the Scotch Univalent.' steed pro-eminent. No charge of
bribery bad ever been made apiust the English or Irish
naivenitise , • par wool it ever be made %millet the Scotch
ueivemilise they were seionsehiood. They would return
usesibme whoweeld he a credit to the lame, and it would
ihre a pest prestige to the new of almation in Soothed.
He pee no weight to the argeosist about English mesh
behr4t3 tattled ; wove sow me united empire.
E mad be eppeeed the bill bemuse be
keded intermit our net sedlciently represents&
He too, that one of them seats should be sires le
wood, both is rapist of population sad of rase-
tien,wes repressaied. It was fonedthat tbe on.
serratire leedbele esppededeech bills se the Ten Hasse
818 and the Hisashag bed ether Id&
in which the working dress were
while the members far do Issandorierfai Isarsalat=
them. Ezigland bad ow member to every P,?ii penes%
and Weed only ow to la" Beddow, is the retain
bill of bat year ow of Owes Nab was le In three to
Inked. and he did set NO why it ahead sot km eye of
them now.
Kr. JACKSON aid be ill ardelli seddited the rate.