The Express.
London, England, 1850-03-01 00:00:00

I, tag that when a great number of peruse in
menuf-euring w. are not represerted (
boroughs.,,,rtion to the re
ppulation, the small
he distilled, I do not think the object
Zji I, fairly plaid by destroy tag all the
▪ alt bmaol oasected with agriculture, and hieing the
h-t-t-joeltunil counties with this inequality. You complain of
the autuality. I have coveted up the populations el Wol•
urbanises, Brsdford, Derby, and Leicester, and I fled that
the,
motto to If who seed twelve members to putt.-
wet, wh.le Booth Devemshire. with 207,000, sends but two.
war,Ctrs /hill.) It pit are to 11411% this qusetion of intqualv
kt us tight it hirly—(cheers and counter cheers)
a-siti either adopt the plan of the hos. umber for Not.
dreg lut set divide the country into districts, or else give
sa lacf,toe a lumbers ti the Malin as well ma the
hwalbs, (near, beer.) But that is not the qaes;ion
whack the kto. gentleman proposes. Teo hen. gentleman
the ti,gag who set wa t him have always stated the question
with rtoopt to the great towel, they have taws). objected
to the en, &aces of the borough, never utterlos a ward about
the awl,. :a which tl.ey totted to regulate the gawk. 1
haw ca other occasions stated why I think that the tepee
which woli:d be (zinged entirely of large tows.
and divrions of counties would not so well represent the
goo& es that dieistira which at Finset exists. Ido not
behest, that it would hue any utter result than that of
tumour that division, almost that collision, between the
yr:intend and malloraeuriag interests which the repro-
hu.t,ittni of we mullet towns o'snutteted with the agri-
salters: districts hods to lessen, if not prevent, by the
mush ut clues. At all eaters, if we are to have a
refers in the rnpreseraation upon time ground, let it be fair
at t eivniity proporuusd ; and let us have it explicitly pat
tot,a, us, not ma the hon. gentleman hes done now sal ou
ober occashine, by pointing au; the susellness of the borough
and never telling us what plan he intend. to propose in its
p:Er. 1 hat wee not the spirit in which I brought Inward
see Ileterm Bill. Waen I brought forward that mit.ivure I
thought it :teary ta soy whet were the ooroutthe I pro-
rod to dcstroy, what Neil the hoses and counties to
'Lich 1 proposvd to give regreeeetatiow. At least I
Ivo the ivicle are fairly before the house, that
the onto sad the country might judge of it. lint
the hot. ,arable gentleman, I meat say, always gives
me am, suspicion that his plan is to give, not a prepos-
agitate. ha; alms: the 0,17 weight to the great tuned
the cottatiy—(bur, hear)—and not to dhide fairly the'
"NU population of the country in its divisions into spinal
esteamersid sod manuteetur.,4 districts. The hon.
sci leaned gentl.•aunt, the member tor Sheffield, talked of
me sabordieste clams se if we made them a distinct class
fmm Galen; sad as if we were in the habit of talking of
taw eta class to be eistraged. 1, certainly, entirely italer
hAa.hat boa. meterar, and I agree with the hon. genii man
Tr.,,,,te, that that class is far from being to the
t member fur In intros, represents them slaves
the (vestry. They' have inestimable wiliness*
use vileness &I security to their - • and v—
.

bate 4 pt. _ ...0611itj Vv._ A pennies pro.
y, they are sawed Iran injury ; Men have as taar a
r.quicied. before • jury of their esaintryses as Lily
!.:teats: pewee in the land. (Hear, hear) Tray
:he security of licks under • free ocamitatios, which
eaa. I:ellitifile seems to think hie been altogetber
,CS, at loss; 1 or sure, is their feeling. 1 have
at any tin e that I remember, any sentiment
it„ciaui gum that wa are cot • free pies; le or nit
t.%. ...ileums of liberty. A men may rise to eke'
tat e.: ton .ea and to the greatest power in the state ; he
soot bane. • sunistar of his cuintry, however \usable
t °rum, had advise his sovereign as to the policy to
a-d mower's to be adopted; ne may
sr...A *Le bi,hest position in the church or the law. He
si.,y become Archon.-op of Canterbury, or Lord High
Crewel: rof the 1.3. i tam, with of the slightest regard to
the aaien tr.. 31 which ne may nave sprung; and in such •
p 064.411 Le owlets betors the Luke of Norfolk and''
age rriukst nobleman in tLe land. We aret
a. a peseisai.a of every privilege; our
pueras aid our lives are protected by the •
am, sad we are really aid truly a free people, whether
or wt the whole of the I.opulation, poesew votes for the
C..ctica rt menrers of p.: aliment. I need not hen diecues
L; at lot 0r... the duratioo u: parliaments. These questions
gee.. Me; id.:) lint •ith ea former occasions; but I will
ata3 uttiough I aitireTy diff or from the motion of the
gentleman (Mr. Hunk), and although I
n.o: pee tt toonkla • distioct negative, yet I
d. 3 the Po:. velaa to I. the absolute limit and
p,r.eiLe tout, of IL• euitrapt. (Haar, hear.) I mny be
heel • tr cued a eiratler opinions before, why we do not
cam Lora.rl is the Tersest session of parliament and ',to-
pic rat. earnoimen's au 1 reams se we may consider to
Le 1: is my opiciA, aad it is the opinion of illy
C 1-440.*, •Lans I sehmitted that question, that it
1101.41a0t o e lit present session of parliament to
pat nu o•Ler yiii•iins In order to raise the question
with us?. en t 3 L.le bane nhkh must lead to lung nod
pru:racte tiv•%l'•:,..ri every other subject, nod likely
dlecusei.a. t Hess.) I have con eidered that
we Lire of late ',an male very great changes with respect
to u commercial p.icy, and that those charges are now
70;4111, I 0.1i06 is tltts house, still more matters of di..
cmat its the co nary—the-a, hear)—and my opinion is
it,: tie fent:mean of the conitty should be allowed to be
sit-red and waled upon that question before we place
Centre the e.un'ry anotUrr qu surto which must be the
DIM et oa.%:.aeitement, situ can hardly be settled without
gust t:ivies oit ptrties. (Cheers.) I believe, it 1. e were to
ad: to Whit is to, invicuely the muse of angry debate
.eitlemot the country—the present state of the question
to our commercial we were to add to
3...... t moment another question—we most do
iry to the intemts of the country. (`' Hear,"
Woe nave sees in three countries cf
is cum of liberty defiled ; the cause of good
.c,:rage by those who came forward in the
3: .3 rtv, ant if democratic principles. We have
it in 1:3.) • venerable pont.tf, of whim good intentions
Belo v.:* no era can doubt, obliged to fly from hie
; ne ._,e stet that capital sawed with the blood of
r, aisseeio..to d while in the perfarmance of has

and ebt.t.
at :exit.
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rill. mid we have nen the newly established republic
r. br a fsrein bumbarlmeat and a foreign occupation;
• tan tier:any various changes from the extreme
Asr,•tql: :. the 'striae* of deniocricy ; we have men
▪ indi• n given as-Althea withdrawn in order to sub-
I it,ste id it u. i;venti birrowed frau ancient Rome, by
writhe hut.ilte,l of the Milt': will give votes equal to a
tw....isad or the poorest. Wo have MID this substitute
el pied is • remedy fa the ev.ls which waiver's' suffrage
crs.-sd in the viitirse of • few months ; we have seen in
Fran, write the demand was at first for an

411v1 0, the Andros, beyond the narrow and
Ism. 3. t.os sr of s one 20.3,009, we hams wen a republic
se, t 3 the utter astonishment of 99 inhabitants
t. 3 syss 1..

e. have seen under that republic universal
I.Zk ktv,itdflli; :Ind acted upon, and we now see that
kidser.s. -Age reviled by those who proposed it, and at
tne sine time by the atijority of the people. (Hes ,r Lear.
We litre kin tant efI,!I:ITOUT to remedy the evils which
have been tri u: ht upm them, u it were, to their
surprise thd a .thiut their knowledge, by a suffrage
smevia.s ,i 3111.11/ to tcat which the hon. member
Moctrns has poi:mad for our acceptance to night.
I r.tes been told to others have been tau) that the pro.
ty is that the opinion 61 the mass of the people of
d met aid ulnesatt., Kula in a judgment that their pre.
sent ciiuticion :IP% suited to tacit national habits and
eier.cter, and tat their institution, mast be replaced b
otttr incaution, of a different kind. As I stated when I
w.::•,: a k 1 a question on t` e subject by the hon. meta-
ter tar UtearJell..-thet is no business of curs (hear)—it is no
buldess at ours to swerhre with any kind of government
the 1 ret.l4 nation nay thou, to give to themselves—but it
is our pra4,ge, and we should be idiots indeed if we did
r .te.l ',omelets of it to observe what is going on in
L., ;,,e, and to take aomt counsel by those events. I say,
Les, if tic re •ult of the first lesson of 1848 was to teach on
t. w,.it until It was too late, the remit of this seemed
w teach us " not te do toe much—not to go too far
dii.bericios." (Hear, hear.) I say that
are Q.v. happy position that we have
a emetitution to seek. (Cheers.) The ton.
leur.cd menthe! foe 81111 field says that he hem always
liming toe this eematitutiou, but has not yet been able
t • L..d r. (ilea, hear.) Why that is our happiness and
• mat is that we have no written constitution, but
that tasty 'EngUshman knows his rights, atd knowing dun
31c-t-an trissa—rehetrs)—and no person would venture to
edi...re so lilylistun•ri of the liberty which, notwithstand-
isw whit has bees said by the hon. member for Montrose,
ti knows Peat he possesses, and which be enpsys and values.
i lit 4, hear.) 11 that be the ease—if we are in the enjoy-
...J.: of so Rub liberty, and the people of this country
the years 1848 sad lniff have shown so mach tamper,
.:1. the boa. member for Montrose tells us, are at this

I...mtes In a state of quiet and contentment, I say
o • sot thick It aril be trawls' in us to pause and consider
to take the next step without first ueertaieicor what
t.
:-• psi as be. (Ilea.) That then is no very prevailing
this time amongst the body of the peop.e for then
char...es-Out the middle classes are, as the hon. and learned
mos. et Is Sheffield rates, epposed t) them, are certainly
e.ry tohthisive retinas ia favour of them. (Hear.) We
a" LA "at it ill unwise to wait until the storm comes
upta r !on we furl the sails • but if we waste our ener-
pits card t art oar sails while yet 'it is a perfect calm, we may
•.! dr.ftti taws' the rocks. ("Hear," and laughter.)
t:o a.t think, therefore, that in the present
tempt Ot rte I.,uyle it would be advisable for the
elveesment tt•.: csintry to propose • great plus
for tee tr.- res.'s :I the seffrege. (Hear, hear.) Whenever
wed....,,ac1. a 0 ,n, I think it should not be as a
nhe•rett t'r tht Arm Bill, but that it should be a supple-
S"" att. The lon. member for °oral has eloquently
'; 4is adheres ec to the established constitution of the
• L., I know his w..h is to preserve and uphold the
7.3.444111 ear other institutions I have no doubt that
tint—(hear)—but with the members who would
It ,:ected istder the plan of the boa perleman, the
AOIitZWW, it it should be sanctioned by puha-
Mien the ton. member for ttmchsm
Iv" li'Aely to carry the majority with him is his
- Ants. tri,s the hon. and 1, sand member for
" • . -1. is his iutentl-n of preserving Its Innitesti one
e :iv. Illear, hear.) But 14 that at it may. This
'..ev! n of mere eonjtcatre and uncertainty; and my
"to t.. 0 1041.11 is, to prefer, to ctr jeeture and unezr-
' 1:•.: itAttitaltAss we boys now toting prepared to
thna with regord to coy of their defects ; et.fu.inte
With the views of any party as to what may
!., pm:At benefit ,• bat not adopting a course full of
fu,l eldest*, and hill of peril to our best intonate.
Ir. B. 0131:01tNE obstreed that the ministerial replies to
••• motion before the house wtro most unsatisfactory to a
.r aportion of the sepr.orten of the government. He
• :o:d not bat naafi. that toe whole of the opposition heel
'•1"' 'ma the bench with ose exception, and that
I. u
0..1.. a 4n Of very amphibious politick
ht,e I NO Viiilhe r or. the t.ther title had addrsterl
'his Lorin ea the in,,;cet. He (Mr. Osborne) wee one of