The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-10-12 00:00:00

Mr. 13,ANxEit: Are not your schools under the direction
of Government—how can you alter it ?

Mr. BRADLEY : Partly 'so
Mr. BANNER : There is e
education ; there o,re certai

direction as to the standard of
. books to be read, &c. ; How

can you alter them

Mr. John JONES was of the same opinion as Mr. Moss.
(Cries of " you have spoken," and "go on.") It was an
opinion which he was alone in expressiy, whilst others
thought the industrial training of the children was all per-
fection. He (Mr. Jones) did not think so himself ; but before
they could have any material alteration in the industrial
training of the children in the school, they would have to
have what was called a complete revolution there.- (Hear,
and a laugh.)

Mr. GARDNER should like the vestry clerk to read Mr.
Coates' Summary of what the children were employed at.

Mr, HART then read the following Summary :

" STATE OF THE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL, SEPTEMBER 21, 1853.
- " Distribution : Present in school, 395 boys, 262 girls ;in
the infirmary, sick, 19 boys, 12 girls. At work : tailors.
32 boys; shoemakers, 34 boys ; sloggers, 12 boys ; bakers, 7
boys ; cooks, 2 girls; gardeners, 34 boys ; in wash-house, 12
girls ; assisting servants, 66 girls; messengers, 3 boys ; engineer,
1 boy , sweepers &c., 33 boys ; in . the kitchen, 6 girls ; in the
scullery, 8 girls; attending sick, 3 girls; pupil teachers, 4
boys, and 6 girls ; sailors, 18 boys; Total: 592 boys, 377 girls.
Recapitulation: In the school last statement, 591 boys; 337
girls vadmitted since, 12 boys, 3 girls. Total : 603 boys, 390
girls. Discharged sent to friends, 3 boys, 1 girl; absconded,
2 boys ; placed in service, 6 boys, 12 girls. Remaining, 592
boys, 377 girls."

Mr. SUMNER was perfectly artonished at the work he saw
in the Irish Exhibition.. Not only were there weaving,
spinning ropes, &c., but there were very superior strong
shoes, and he could say very far better made than those
made in the Industrial schools, or in the workhouse. There
were also specimens of earthenware, and on the whole there
was nothing he had seen to equal it. They had nothing here
but tailors and shoemakers doing anything to support the
establishment in the manufacture of clothing.

Mr. BRADLEY : There are thirty-four landscape drawer

Mr. SUMNER thought, with some attention, and a few
men to cultivate those branches, there might be a great deal
of work done in those Industrial schools.

Mr. BRADLEY was quite of Mr. Sumner's opinion, and
was vbry glad to hear this discussion.

Mr. GARDNER, referring to Mr. Coates' return, which had
been read, remarked, there appeared to be some Industrial
training of the children from eight to thirteen years of age,
The subject would receive the attention of the Committee,
and any suggestions made, would be attended to. A Sub-
Committee was sitting to see whether Printing could not be
introduced into the establishment,
A MEMBER : Calico printing ?

Mr. Mos

No, gentlemen-of the press. (A laugh.)

Mr. GARDNER: That is a useful trade. It was introduced
into the Ragged School, and he did not see why it should
not be introduced into the Industrial Schools.
Mr. SUMNER said if there was such &department it would
be of no benefit to children after they left the school, and it
would all end in moonshine.

Mr. JONES said, as this discussion had a practical ten-
dency, it would be well to have the Committee's hands
strengthened by a resolution to the following effect :—" that
it be an instruction to the School Committee to take into its
early consideration how far, and by what means, the indus-
trial training there can be extended and improved."
Mr. Moss had great pleasure in seconding the resolution.
The resolution was agreed to.

Mr. JONES moved foi• returns of the admissions and re-
admissions, &c., into the Industrial Schools from 1851 to
1853.

Mr. BRADLEY said, this was a practical return, and it was
desirable that it should be made early, so as to get rid of all
those matters connected with the Schools.

Mr. DENToN did not object to the return

Mr. GARDNER said the° School Committee had published
a great quantity of it already. There was no objection to it.
The CHAIRMAN : Mr. Hart says there is no objection to

-Mr. Jorms said he moved for certain returns, but they
would comprise only so far as Mr. Coate§ had to do with the
children. There was afterwards the return of the teacher,
who had a great deal to do with them after Mr. Coates had
done. He should like to get the return of before the next
meeting of the School Committee.

The CHAIRMAN said the Vestry Clerk could not promise
to have them ready by the time, but he would do it as soon
as he could.
The return wa's then ordered to be made.

A discussion followed, relative to the repairs of the roof of
the Schools. Some of the members were for leaving it in the
Muds of Mr. Wylie, the Surveyor, whilst others contended
that they should advertise for contracts for repairs ; but
as the cost of the repairs was stated as likely not to exceed
£6, it was allowed to rest in the hands of Mr. Wylie, to have
the necessary repairs executed.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

Mr. Moss moed for a return of the prices of the several
articles of human food, groceries, &c., supplied to the house
for each of the last ten yearg.

Mr. GAILDN3tiIi. objeCted to the time of the clerks being
taken up in making out those returns. He could not see the
utility of it.

Moss said others could, even if Mr. Gardner seemed
disposed to remain in ignorance. (Hear, hear.) In most of
the important Unions in the country such a return had been
moved fora It enabled them to judge of the expenditure,
and it enabled the thinking mind to judge what might be the
increase or decrease in those eharges.

Mr. GARDNER could not see it.
Mr. Moss : Well, you do not see it. Perhaps others
see it.

The return was ordered

APPOINTMENT OF MEDICAL OFFICER

Mr. Moss : Is it the intention of the Board to day to pro-
ceed to the election of a Medical Officer in the place,of Mr.
Cripys ?

SlTr. HART : Yes.
Mr. DENTON : I believe there are only three applications
Mr. SHAW: There are more.

Mr. BRADLEY believed it was usual that the appointment
of Medical Officers should be referred to the Medical Relief
Committee.

On the motion of Mr. CARNE, the subject of the appoint-
ment of the Medical Officer in the place of Mr. Cripps, was
referred to the Medical Relief Committee; also, the appoint-
ment of Mr. Kelly, as one of the District Medical Officers,
and that of two dispensers at the North and South Dispen-
saries.

Mr. BILIDLEY : I now move the adjournment of the Ves-
try to Thursday, at Twelve o'clock, to receive the report of
the Medical Relief Committee. It is of so voluminous a
character, it is impossible to day to go into it, as it ought to
be gone into. _

The Vestry then adjourned to Thursday next.

WATCH ROBBERY ON BOARD A FERRY BOAT.—Last
night, a strange gentleman from Scotland, whilst crossing
crossing by the Monk's Ferry Boat to Cheshire, had his
pocket picked of a splendid gold lever watch, valued at
thirty. guineas. It is supposed that the robbery was com-
mitted by some of the swell mob, who jostled him. .

ACCIDENTS, YESTERDAY.—A young man named
Robert Hart, was working at a cotton warehouse in Robert
Street, yesterday, when the handle of a windlass, struck
him on the thigh, producing a severe contusion.—Charles
McAllister, residing at 58, Sawney Pope Street, a labourer
at a cotton warehouse,, in Neptune Street, had his ribs frac-
tured, and received other severe contusions, by a bale of
cotton falling upon him.—John Howe,lja young man about
eighteen years of age who is employed at the works of the
new Coru Exchange, in Brunswick Street, fell down from
some scaffolding on the building, to the cellar; he-alighted
on some flags, which produced a severe scalp wound and
concussion of the brain.—lle was taken to the Northern
hospital, where he has since had three epileptic fits, and
remains in a precarious position.—John Brothers, a seaman,
belonging to the American ship Tuscaroro, lying in the
Waterloo dock, fell from the main deck to the bottom of the
hold, producing a severe lasceration of the left ear, and
concussion of the brain.

GRAND MISCELLANEOUS CONCERT AT THE PHIL-
HARMONIC HALL.—Last evening those celebrated artistes
Grisi and Mario,assisted by Madame Doria, Signor Ciaviatta,
and Mr. J. L. Hatton, gave a Second Grand Miscellaneous
Concert at the Philharmonic Hall. The attendance was
numerous, and the peformance passed off with eclat. Grisi
and Mario were both in good voice, and sung admirably.
Criticism on the style of two such artistes is needless. The
aria of " Giulietta e Romeo" was beautifully rendered by
Madame Doria who received an encore, as did Mario in
the song " Sweeheart good bye." Mr. J. L. Hatton was
not effective in the song " The Linden Tree," which fell
flatly on the audience.

IRISH PROTESTANT ORPHAN SOCIETY.- —Yesterday
evening, a meeting took place of the friends of this society
in the Christ Church National School, in order to hear an
account of its last year's affairs, from the Rev. Mr. Wolsey,
now of Dublin, and formerly curate of St. John's, in this
town. The chair was taken by the Rev. Mr. Nolan. The
meeting was addressed by Mr. Wolsey, who gave a slight
but graphic sketch of the origin, progress, and objects of
the society ; and mentioned, that, although its affairs during
the last year had been prosperous, yet in Liverpool, the
contributors to its funds had 'diminished from £5O to £37.
The Rev. gentleman dwelt much on the importance of
rescuing poor Irish protestant children from the insidious
attacks of persons who, he said, did the business of Rome in
the garb of Jesuits. He enumerated instances in which
Irish protestant children had been inveigled and brought
over to the church of Rome ; and. said, the society was
founded in 1828, by some noble hearted man, working in a
foundry in Dublin, who had determined that no more of the
children of their fellow workmen should be again trepanned.
He then gave a vivid picture of the beauties of the romantic
county of Wicklow, with its green valleys, its clear streams,
and lofty mountains; and said, that in that county, in
respectable protestant families, free from the contamination
of crowded cities, the children were brought up and well
educated. Their healthy state might be inferred from the
fact, that since the commencement of the society, only fifty
had died under its care. After many other observations, a
collection, in aid of the funds of the society was made, and
the meeting separated.