The Express.
London, England, 1850-03-02 00:00:00

joiced that it was after and not before that de- tee thec
were called upon to discuss this question. lie thotght that
the house would not consider that they He
torieij wee,
travelling out of
.the record if they tested this
bill by the principles which wise then laid doh
and he called upon
.th• majority who suppoeteei
these principles by follow's" the noble lord to give them
(the Writs) their support that night. The noble lord hid
down this principle, that any reform should be in tee shape
of &supplement to the Reform Act. Nyw. if that principle
were applicable to Erglend, it was still more so to Ireland.
By the Moral Bill affecting Ireland, it was prep,eed
create • constituency approaching 15C,000, and to
ie
1837 the actual constituency was over 122dd,
But if this bill were carried, a cedetit,;;;
much k rger than .as intended by the 8464
Bill would be immediately created. It had been said that
it
hon. gentlemen voted with the noble lord on this occasion
they would have a claim upon him for an extension of the
franchise in England and Scotland. He ci uld not mutes
in that opinion. But if the noble lord should pm thi, bill
and. Montrose,
decline to meant to the proposdionof the
tie
sieiseb4
for Montrose, he would prove to the people of tins cow,.
that he reposed greater confidence in the peee,e;;:,
of Ireland than the mechanics of England. lie ruTri
.7. Manners) could not honestly say that the imam
of Lincoln Or the artisan of Birmingham were lees worthy
• to exercise the franchise than the cabin occupiers of the Ing
of Allen.

The committee then divided, when there appeart d
For the motion 213
For the amendment

Majority
Mr. REYNOLDS proposed to omit the words wtisa
gaited payment of the rate as well as the h. ing rated.
Sir W. SOMERVILLB opposed the emeudat.ot, which
Kr. REYNOLDS then withdrew, amid ironinol cheers sad
laughter kora the cppmition. He bell. ved t►.. who
cheered would vote against him it he went to a division,
otherwise be would divide.

Oa the proposition that the Ist of Jaen try shoeld Mto
day on or before which the me should be paid,

Mr. Wearona and Mr. Bawer severally objeetei to di6
ferent days being fixed tor the payment of ens rates as filmy
to lead to confusion.

Sir W.SOMERVILLE would alter the bid ia th 4 meet
when they came to the 6th clause.
Mr. REYNOLDS suggested that the rate law wade
only should be required to be paid to entitle the Toter to
exercise the fra-.cniee.

The ATTORNEY GENERAL referred to the Eitatidt
system, in justifying the requirement of the paymeat of all
rates due.

Mr. HOME thought it would be sufficient to require
that the rates made after the passing of the bill shoutd be
paid.

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The blank was then filled up as proposed.
Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON then moved to add to the
clause, " and provided aiso he shall have made a claim to
the high constable of the barony in which he shall have
been so rated, in the form numbered in schedule A, No. 3
(a)." His object was to prevent any men from being annoyed
by the one party or the other.
Sir G. GREY thought the adoption of this amendment
would destroy one of the main features of the Irish fran-
chise; for the independence of the voter would then be
iserificud, either by the innuenee of the landlord, or the
priest.
The amendment wan put and negatived.
Mr. REYNOLDS moved, as another amendment, that
no person qualified should be held to be disqualified
reason of any arrears of p,or•rates due priur to the 16th of
July.

The ATTORNEY-GENERAL &nerved that care m.nt
be taken to prevent the evasioa of the papeu,at of anon It
rates.

Mr. BRIGHT asked whether the right boa. Freedman,
the Attorney General, meant to say that there was no .au
in Ireland for the collection of rates, except this fraart.se
bill? (Hear, hear.) The object of the present interze
was, not to collect rates, but to define the franchise.
Mr. AGLIONBY hoped government would allow te
proviso to be put in. The Attorney General had made
statement whica was calculated to mislead the hikue. He
said, if they inserted the proviso, it would be a receipt
full for the payment of the rates.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the house had decided ern:).
that the rates should be paid to a certain day, as a ',1111.:. s.
tion for voting. Then the question was, as to whether tr
not there should be so exception made. He did not thlr c
when they were laying down a general rule, the they
should state there sloculd be exceptions. For dieter:Et
he could not agree to this amendment.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he had been chant:
with wishing to mislead the house. He did no such tit.
According to the amendment the voter would act be ea.
titled, unless he had paid the last rate up :o the sth Jan.
ary,'.lBso. Now, the collector would not :ake the ;an rate.
unless he got the preceding ones.
Mr. REYNOLDS remarked that the collector might be
directed by this bill to take the last rats. His proviso was a
source of merriment to the other side, but he believed nit
it would relieve many who wore broad cloth, as they were
greater defaulters to the poor rate, in proportion, than wire
those who wore frieze.
Mr. HUME said he thought it was unfair not to re::
this amendment, but seeing that government had macs
up their minds, he advised his how fn. nd not to Ivia
the house.
Mr. REYNOLDS then withdrew the proviso, ad tie
clause was agreed to.
On clause 2,
Mr. HAMILTON said there were many objections to it,
and he proposed that it should be adjourned.
Lord J. RUSSELL consented to postp.ue this elan*, and
said he should be end to hear the opinions of rentkmen
connected with Ireland upon it, end mere especirily thew
who had supported the bill.
The Chairman then reported progress, and obtainedleave to
sit again on Monday.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.—THE NAVY
ESTIMATES.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he wished to state the 0010111 he
proposed to take on Monday. From what be bad beard
since he bad made a statement at fire o'clock, the tint Lord
of the Admiralty would tied it impossible from the state of
his health to attend in that house on Monday, and,ihere-
fore, he should propose to go on with the bill they had been
discussing in committee.
PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND).
The house then resolved itself into a committee. when a
resolution was agreed to for the payment of barrister and
other.
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL.
On the order of the day for the ',tend reeding of this
Mr. TURNER said this was an important measure. and
he thought it ought not to be read a second time withoi:
observation upon it.
Sir I. ROMILLY said if there was any objection to
bill he wss willing that it should be postpone I.
The bill was then postponed.
COURT OF CHANCERY (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill passed through committee pro.turnsa. To be re•
ported on the 15th of March.
MERCANTILE MARINE BILL.
Mr. LAW-R.-CHIME said he proposed to nice thee
on Friday next.
MONEY PAYMENT OF WAGES (IRELAND) BILL
This bill was postponed to Friday.
MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL.
This bill was postponed to Monday, the 11th of March.
REGISTRATION OF DEEDS tIRELAND) BILL.
This bill was read a second time, sad ordered to be tea
mined on the sth of March.
SUPPLY.
In Committee of Supply a sots el 17 miliians for Es.
chequer Bills was taken.
CONVEYANCE OF REAL PROPERIT.
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ST. DAVID'S DAY-SOCIETY OF ANCII
BRITONS.

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Yesterday the members of this ~.: viety celebrated
TheQt b
ue el re
Queen street.Bishopst hil noThfisesrileußl.tl.o_
p f festival
hrl ocu:til a. l'iti. In eltshmer, chair.llN‘ it
ie a ri" . :7
.70 d:
sat down to dinner, and amongst the company we, •
Watkin W. Wynn, Sir R. W. Vaughan. Sir B. Leighton,
the Rev. John Jennings, Sir Thomas Phillips reateit
. J.h Williams.
Esq., the Rev. Rowland Williams. a:•and
Te g
possible enthusiasm masted throughout the evening..
the entertainment was in every rower of a purely national
character. The Prince of W Litill feathers were slisp:stei
in great profusion, and a variety of songs in honour a :4.
David's Day were sung at intervilebetween the speeces. the
musicians engaged for the occasion were the Misses Willilw.
Mr. Farquhaisen Smith, Mr. ileum., Mr. Shoubridge. ani
Mr. Ellis Roberts. Mr. Stall Reeves bad tendered kJ
gratuitous services, and sang two favourite songs to tte great
delight of the company. AOlOOO/fit the taaSti a the even.
ing were " The l'rincipakty of Wales l'ruspetal
to the Welsh Charity School."
Several gentlemen interested In the stn of
the chanty
addressed the company in the course e,f vening. and the
boil and girls of the institution Thee
to .:00) pew
round the room in procession. The fund% were stated to Iv
in avert' Nourishing condkion, and nearly 1.40i1C. woe col
lected on the present occasion. The entettaientatt ete of &
character strictly in iieeof.htlige with the natwell fal!
which pervaded the guests, sad St. David's llsy was cele-
brated with all the honours due to the occasion.
-eh d st
The annual sermon in aid of the charity was
rev,...,
St Martin's Church in the morning by
the lie, limi."‘;
Williams, Vier- rrineipal of Si. David's College.lv art
the service was attended by a large eoescoune ..o.
People.

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SELECT COMMITTEE ON rillgON
Y•ltiinlay this members (Adria committee taut for the • rtt
time in Committce-room 17. elected Mr. Iltclte(t PenJ"
chairman, and arranged the onto reruns.
L'ouNTE CA)uxts EXTENSION.- -la the to eV
tend the aition of the County Courts, yrstrdsyl..'"l*
there is a clause giving either party debt of sppe+i w
superior court in shove '2Ol. Thcre are fouriee2
provisions laths bill andsale of ises is actioso above a..