The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-01-18 00:00:00

AMERICA.

ARRIVAL OF THE PACIFIC.

The steamer Pacio.o arrived here yesterday from
New York, with dates to the sth inst. Neither of
the steamers due from Eurcpe had arrived out.

No Speaker had been elected by the House of

Representatives.
The general news is unimportant.
The New York papers publish the correspond-
ence (extending over twelve columns) uhich has
passed between the American and British Govern.
ments on the Central American question, com-
mencing with Mr. Marcy's instructions to the
American Minister in London, and ending with
the letter of Lord Clarendon to the same function-
ary iu October last. This deeply interesting and
long-drawn correspondence shows how complicated
the question has become, and how little prospect
there can be of an immediate adjustment of a
misunderstanding which has the entanglements
and patches, and excrescences, and errors, of half a
century of bungling negotiations to encumber it.
The New York Times says :
That there will be a war springing out of this business
we have no doubt; but it will be a war of diplomatic
notes, and ;not a resort to the last argument of nations.
A few more years of negotiation and correspondence, and
the difficulty will be solved in a summary manner, by
some bold adventurer, who will step in between the
wranglers and make himself master of the country about
which they are disputing. It is an exceedingly awkward
business as it stands ; but it is not one to fight about.
In regard to our diplomatic imbroglio with Great Britain,
a glimpse at the possible action of the administration, in
the absence of congressional advice, would have been
more satisfactory. But we can master the matter per-
haps without these helps. It appears that the enlistment
question is a subordinate one, soluble, if not otherwise,
by the dismissal of Mr. Crampton—an act certainly pro-
per, and always within the power of the President. In
short, with reference to the Clayton Treaty, and existing
contingencies arising under it, if the matter be stated
correctly, and the uegociations on the subject of British
violations of the treaty, be, as Lord Clarendon is repre-
sented as saying, brought to a hopeless conclusion, then
the message might have added, with entire propriety, that
no other course is left but to expel the colonists from Hon-
duras, destroy the fortifications on the Bay Islands, and
finally haul down the union-jack wherever it may now be
floating in Central America. What was done in the green
leaf at San Juan must be done in the dry at the Belize and
Ruatan. Having undertaken to enforce the terms of the
Treaty of 1850 against our own citizens, honour permits •
no evasion of the duty of enforcing them against foreign
infringers. Such is the moral of the executive presenta-
tion of facts. And, if the moral be left unwritten, it is
only that the positive power of recognising a casus belli,
the President chooses, with modesty exceeding that
of Mr. Polk, to place where it belongs, in the hands
of the legislative department of Government, rather than
plunge the country, as he might readily do, with the re-
spectable precedent just referred to in his eye, into all the
evils of a foreign war. Let the fact stand to his credit.
The issue thus raised with Great Britain, fraught as it is
with danger, is, unfortunately, not so clear as it might be.
There are difficulties about it. In the refusal of that
power to recognise the Munroe doctrine, we have, the
President leaves us to suppose, no ground for immediate
quarrel ; for in that refusal she has been practically con-
sistent from the very first. It is a mistaken notion that
in the treaty of July, 1850, there was any concession of
that doctrine, so far even as Central America was con-
cerned. Interference in the politics of that
quarter were only foitorne by Eng:and on con-
damn of equal forbearance on our part. It is
more just to construe the agreement as an abandonment of
the Monroe doctrine, than as an affirmation of it. Great
Britain was recognized by it as a power possessing an
unquestionable right to intervene in and stipulate anout
American interests; to give up rights in regard to them
only in consideration of equal abstinence on the side of
the Cis-Atlantic powers. lf, then, we were to go to war
in vindication of the Clayton-Bulwer Treaty, it would be
a virtual abandonment, for the present at least, of
the Monroe doctrine ; if we determine to vindicate
the Monroe doctrine, we must join with our opponents
in discarding the Clayton-Bulwer Tre4ty. The grounds
of cavil are conflicting : either Great Britain is
entitled to interfere in American politics, or else the
treaty referred to is a tissue of meaningless trumpery. If
we are to embark in a conflict, let the object be worth the
gunpowder. By the treaty, we are more effectually ex-
cluded from interference in Isthmian affairs, than the other
contracting party. In view of our intercourse with Cali-
tor:2ia and the Pacific world, this state of things should be
reversed ; and it can only be reversed by disallowing all
title on the part of a European power to execute any other
document in regard to the subject, than a quit-claim deed :
a solemn relinquishment of all right or interest in the con-
tr )verted territory. This is an object worthy of the stoutest
maintenance ; but whether now, and without a final and
formal denial of our peculiar claims on the part of England
is a question we are not called upon to answer.
In reference to the affairs of Central America, on
the 3rd the President sent to the Senate the
ratification of Minister Wheeler's treaty with
Nicaragua, negotiated anterior to Walker's advent.
It stipulates for the recognition of Nicaragua to
the extent of all her claimed territory, including
IVlusquito, and regardless of the British protector-
ate. It also stipulates for the protection and fos-
tering of American citizens' capital and enterprises
in Nicaragua, covering, of course, any railroad or
canal which may be projected. It was referred to
the committee on foreign relations.
It was stated at Washington that England had
sent out full powers to Mr. Crampton to negotiate
a treaty abandoning her pretensions in Central
America ; and a letter writer adds: " I seriously
doubt the story, but if it is true, it is merely a
proposition to compound a felony, and our Gov-
ernment will not entertain it. It is expected here
that Great Britain will propose to submit the Cen-
tral American question to arbitration, which is not
likely to be agreed to by us, especially as at present
there is no great European Power that we could
trust except Russia."
The annual reports of the Secretary of the Nary,
Post-office, and Treasury had been published, and
are as usual very lengthy documents. From the
report of the war department we learn that the
actual strength of the army is 15,752 officers and
men.

MoLA'SES : From the cargo of new Clayed Cuba, before
noticed, 150 hhds have been run off, in lots at 42 cents ;
besides which, we noticed 125 bbls New Orleans, 49, 4 mos.
SUGAR : The demand is moderate, but the market is very
firm, and full prices continue to be realized. Sales 18,483 bags
Vanilla, for refining (a resale, having been sold, to arrive, at
61 cents) at 71 rents, 6 months; 90 hhds Porto Rico, 8; 275
New Orleans, 8R to 81; 175 bags Cuba, 71; 267 box,s
Brown and Yellow Havanna, 8 to 81; and 50 White ditto, 9,
4 months.

Prices in New York, Ist January,
New Orleans. Cuba.
per lb 8 to 9 c 7 to 8 c
. 41 „ 51c 4 ~ 571 c
. • ..... .. 4 „ 51c 41 „ 51c
.. 4-4- „ 6 c 41-» 54c
4
, •
.
Total Import, from January 1, to December 31,
1855 Mids. Bxs. Bans
From Foreign Ports . 161.937 136,398 140,591
Coastwise do

Total 236,270 137,756 153,679
Same time, 1854 249,928 92,888 112,639
Export from January 1, to December 31,
M 1865 1854
uscovado
Havana ..
&c . ,
Refined
FREIGHTS.—The Market to Great Britain is scarcely so
firm, but in other directions there is no material change.
EXCHANGE.—Prices were nearly the same as before, but
the business was limited, contrary to the expectations of
sellerq, who looked for a large d mand, for remittances of
dividenis, interest, &c. The market in general closes flatly
We elute bills on London, 79 to 8

per cent. prem

PUBLIC MEETING IN MANCHESTER IN
• AID OF THE NIGHTINGALE FUND.
Yesterday one of the most influential, numerous, and
' enthusiastic meetings ever held in Manchester, took
place in the Town-hall, for the purpose of determining
upon the steps to be taken to promote the "Nightingale
Fund." Amongst the gentlemen were the Right Hon.
Sidney Herbert. M.P., Lord Stanley, M.P., Mr. Monek-
ton Milnes, M.P., nho attended as a deputation from
the general ttommittee in London.
The chair was occupied by his worship the Mayor
(James Watts, Esq ).
Mr. J. A. Turner, chairman of the Commercial Asso-
ciation. m,,ved the first resolution, to the effect that the
noble exertions of Miss Nightingale and her associates
in the East, and the invaluable services rendered by
them, made it desirable to perpetuate in a substantial
manner, the signal services they had rendered to the
country. Mr. Oliver Heywood baying seconded the
resolution in a neat and eloquent speech, the Right
Hon. Sidney Herbert, M.P., supported the resolution at
some length, and in the course of his address paid some
well-merited compliments to Miss Nightingale. He
also showed the great want of an efficient body of nurses
for the hospitals in this country, and, the great desire
which Miss Nightingale had for the establishment of an
institution for the thorough training of nurses for hos-
pitals. It was intended that Miss Nightingale should
hr.rself arrange the details of the proposed establishment,
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M.P., also supported the resolution at same length, and
in the course of his address spoke highly of the services
rendered by Miss Nightingale and her noble band of
nurses in the East.
The resolution was put from the chair, and carried
unanimously.
Mr. William Entwistle moved the second resolution,
which pledged the meeting to subscribe to the Nightin-
gale fund. Mr. Thomas Bayley, chairman of the
Chamber of Commerce, seconded the resolution, which
was ably supported by Mr. Monckton Milnes, M.P:,
and Mr. Mark Philips, late M.P. for Manchester, and
was passed unanimously.
On the motion of Mr. Mark Philips, seconded by
Mr. Robert Brandt, judge of the Manchester county
court, a committee was appointed to carry out the
object of the meeting ; and the Mayor having vacated
the chair, and Alderman Sir John Potter having been
called to it, a vote of thanks was, on the motion of Mr.
Sidney Herbert, seconded by Lord Stanley,•passed by
acclamation to the chief magistrate of the city, for his
conduct in the chair.. The Mayor returned thanks, and
the meeting broke up.

The commercial accounts do not vary much
from those previously received. The latest report
•
says :
. The day was an active one amongst the merchants and
bankers, made so by the heavy 4th of January payments at
the bank, and the preparations for the European steamer
sailing at noon to morrow. The mail by this opportunity
will be a large one. The transactions in Exchange to day,
after the market had taken the lower range on London and
Paris, noticed yesterday:afternoon, were much more free, and
a considerable amount of business was done in sterling at
1081 to 1081 prime bills; most of the cash purchases
for round sums being at 108 k. All the
regular bankers were offering to draw, and
made settlements with their customers at the outside figure.
The payments of the day were well met, and we hear of
few protests, and no important failures. The discount
brokers are getting 10 per cent. off prime paper, and 12 to
14 per cent. tiff fair names. Demand loans were nut so
difficult to day as during the previous two or three days,
though money cannot be said to work easy yet among the
stock brokers. The market for shares and bonds was a
fraction weaker at the early board, and the salts
generally moderath, but in the afteruoon prices closed
firm, and, in some cases, the railway shams
were slightly dearer than on Thursday. The
Pacific, of the Collins line, is the Liverpool steamer to-
day. The next Liverpool packet will be the Canada, from
Easton, on Wednesday week, 16th January; to be followed
from this pert by the Atlantic, of the Collins line, on
Saturday 10th Jan. Then comes another interreen im of
eleven days, to Wednesday, 30th January, when a Cunarder
leaves Boston ; for although the Africa, of that line, leaves
Liverpol for New York on the 12th January, she will not
take ber regular place from New York until Wednesday,
6th February. The Arrgo, of the Havre line, will leave
here on Saturday, 12 inst., if she arrives in season to des-
charge and take in cargo.

LECTURES FOR WORKING MEN AT THE
CONCERT-HALL.

REV. HUGH STO WELL BROWN

The first of a series of lectures, intended principally, if not
exclusively, for the benefit of working men, was given in the
Concert-hall last night, by the Rev. Hugh Stowell Brown.
The lecture was given, not in the large public ball, hut in the
class-room underneath. A very considerable attendance of
working men. was drawn together. At eight o'clock precisely
the Rev. Hugh Stowell Brown entered the room, and was
received with loud applause. He proceeded to deliver
his lecture, the subject of which was " Social Economics."
In opening, he explained that in the course of lectures now
nroj ,cted, he had the co-operation of the Rev. Professor
Griffiths, and the Rev. Alexander Cromar, who both intended
to deliver lectures on useful subjects, for the advantage of
working men, in that hall. It was not expected that very
large audiences would he attracted to these lectures, nor was
it desired by the projectors that the bulk of those who
attended should be otherthan working men. He then
proceeded to remark that, in the public lectures
usually delivered to working men, more attention was paid to
the diffusion of scientific knowledge than to an enlightening
of the working classes upon their own social position and
functions in society. For political- parties, under whatever
diff•rlng appellations, he expressed a general disregard, and
urged that working men should rather endeavour to discover
what was really wise, honest, and true, than to scrutinize the
distinctions of whig and tory, conservative and radical. He
then proceeded to give a rapid, but very distinct outline, of the
history of the working classes of England up to the present
day. Ho showed what a mistake it was to suppose that
Britons never had been slaves, and that, until a very recent
period, laws existed with reference to various branches of
industry which made the workman little better than a serf.
Beginning with a description of the condition of the working
classes of England 600 years ago, he showed how the people
gradu lily, by their own exertions, emancipated themselves. Here,
he observed, that lae had no faith in sudden emancipation,. In
fact emancipation could not be given to a people; they must
gradually emancipate themselves, and through the long and
painful process of acquiring their freedom, learn how to make
a right use of it. Hence he declared that although people
might exult over the fall of Russian despotism, he doubted
whether most of the European nations were as yet fit for
freedom, and therefore whether it was yet possible to establish
that general liberty for which people hoped, He traced the
history of legislation with regard to labour, and showed bow,

NEW YORK MARKETS.—JAwtrAnv 5.
CorroN —The market remains very uniform, and the
demand continues moderate. The stock ie small and holders
are therefore indifferent about realizing, except at very full
prices. The sales for the three days are estimated at 3500
bales, and for the week 6500, at the annexed quotations,
which we continue.

FLOUR AND MEAL—The market for Western ant.
Flour has ruled quiet and rather heavy, though prices are
without important change. The local and Eastern buyers
have operated cautiously. while exporters have, for the
most part kept aloof, pending the arrival of the Canada
and Aragot with a week's later advices from Europe. The
receipts are moderate, notwithstanding which holders mani-
fest some disposition to realize at the annexed quotations.
Sales 24 000 brls., mainly kr: home use. Canada flour
rdso continues dull, and tiv sales are limited to about 700
brls. Ct $8,50 to $10,25, as in quality.
GRAIN—The market for wueat continues firm, but the
demand is quite moderate, both for home use and export,
and the prices of last Monday are still current ; sales 20,900
bushels Red Tennessee at $1,90 to s2—the latter an extreme
price; and ?,400 White Missouri, $2,20; White Southern,
Genessee and Canada are held at $2,15 to $2,18 ; White
Western, $2.10 to $2,15 ; 12,000 bushels Red Winter sold
at $1,95 to $2.
Asups—About 250 brls. Pot, old and new brands, have
been taken at $7, which is a decline. Pearl are also lower.
PRoviszoNs—The market for Pork remains dull, and prices
are gis to 60 cents lower, with a considerable desire sa the I

d State

one after another, every restriction upon masters, and men, as
regarded wages, districts in which a man might work, and
others gradually were found to be vexatious, alike to man and
master, and were gradually removed. The struggles which from
time to time hrokeout between capital and labour he also concisely
reviewed. Ho showed how, in all the quarrels which tonic
place between capital and labour, the leading cause was igno-
rance upou both sides, and declared that although at one time the
wealthier classes feared so much the enlightenment of the working
elasses that labourers were forbidden by law from educating their
children, it was found at the present day that the enemy which

the rich had to fear amorist the poor was not their edUcation2
but their ignorance. He contrasted the condition of the
present with that of the past, and showed how more closely
the rich and the poor man sympathised, and aided each other ;
how labour was being freed from restrictions; and the power
of leading an useful and active life opened up to every man.
The lecture was eminently practical, clear, and adapted to its
object. It was listened to, all through, with the greatest
attention, only broken by frequent applause.

NORTHERN TIMES.-LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY, JANUARY 18, 1856.

know it is'a lie

--- -- -- part of of holders to realize. The stock has materially in_ DOCK COMMITTEE--YESTERDAY.
creased during December, being on the Ist inst. 32,673,
against 17,432 Ist December, and 43,236 bale. Ist January,
1855 ;the sales for the three days amount to 1500 bale. The usual weekly meeting of the dock committee was
closing at $16,75 far Mess, and $l7 to $lB (nominally) for held at one o'clock yesterday, Mr. Francis Shand
Prime Mess. Beef continues in moderate request, and good occupying the chair. The other members present were,
qualities are firm, while inferior favors the purchaser. The
annexed statement shows a large increase in the supply : Messrs. Robinson, Smith, Rankin, Rathbone, Hubbock,
sales 800 brls. at $9 to $lO for Country Prime, $10,50 to $l2 Anderson, Langsdale, Mondell, Barber, Holden, Robert.
tor do. Mess, $13,50 to $l4 for Vermont Mess, and $l4 to son Gladstone, James Holme, Evans.
$l4 75 for repacked Western. Prime Mess Beef is in better The. Stanley dock warehouses committee, reported the
simaly, and prices are $1 lower; sales 1100 fcs. at $153 to resignation of Mr. Charles J. More of his situation as
$23. Bacon has sales declined, and the demand is moderate; manifest clerk, and the resignation by Mr. Robertson of
sales 2310 hxs, Short and L,,ng middles at 94. to 01 cents, his situation as landing clerk. The sub-committee
rib in, and 10 to 10 for boneless. Pickled Meats are quiet, recommended that these resignations be received.
and prices are nominal. Dressed Hogs have declined to 71, The finance sub-committee recommended that Mr.
to 7i cents. Lard is half a cent lower, with a fair business Charles Ashton, clerk in the warehousing department of
at the decline; sales 1800 brls, and tea., closing at 114 to the customs, be appointed accountant to assist the corn-
Ili cents, as in quality. Butter is in fair demand, but, missioners, for auditing the accounts of the dock estate,
with a good simply, prices are a trifle lower ; the current in the room of Mr. Boyer, who had resigned, at a salary
quotations are 17 to 22 cents. for Ohio, 22 to 26 for ordinary of 1501. per annum.
to good State. and 27 to 30 hr choice States dairies. Cheese It was recommended, as assistance was required in the
is selling moderatels at 9 to 11 cents. banded department of the treasurer's office, that Mr.
COAL: Liverpool Orrel continues abundant and vety dull. Charles E. Shackleton be appointed assistant to Mr,
COPPER: New Sheathing is still in small supply, and firm Robert Mason. This recommendation was confirmed.
at 34 cents., and Yellow Metal 26,6
mos.; the sales of the A letter was read from Messrs. M'lver and Co., calling
latter are confined to Taunton, thre being little or no attention to the open and exposed state of the sheds on
English. Ingot copper is firm, with an upward tendency. th's south east side of the Clarence-dock, a
Mnd suggesting
NAVAL STORES : Turpentine continues very inactive, and alterations ; which, with a letter from
essrs. Lamont
we hear of no enquiry for export—stock on hand, exclusive of upon the same subject, was referred to the harbour mas-
that on shipboard, 8000 Ms. Spirits Turpentine declined 4to ter's committee.
d 1 per cent
derateper gallon ; stock
Rosin is 15,000
firm, and to 16,000 brls, and the A letter was read from Messrs. James Baines and Co.,
demand mo. Common rather the
A the earnest and immediate attention of the corn-
Tar is in good stock, and held firmly, with sales in lots for mittee to the necessity of erecting mast shears, as, in
consumption at full rates,
consequence of the increased size of the vessels frequent-
Rim,: : The-transactions since Wednesday reach 600 tcs, at ing the port, the risk of roasting and unmasting vessels
4 dole 62-4 c to 5 (lois 50c, which is the highest rate, except for at present was very serious.
strictly,prime. By auction 100 tcs damaged sold at 3 dole 69c The subject was referred to the harbour master's
to 4 dols 624 c cash.

committee.
A letter from Messrs. Boult, Enelish, and Brandon,
applying for a special berth in the Waterloo or Victoria-
dock, was also referred to the harbour master's com-
mittee.
A letter was read from Mr. C. W. Banning, post
master, stating, that as it was of much importance to the
public that the earliest possible information of the arri-
val of an American or Australian mail-packet should be
forwarded to the post-office, the dock committee might
aid in accomplishing this object, by allowing their
servants on duty at the landing-slat'----

.. ..ation, or else-
where, to give notice at once to tbeB post-office of such
arrivals, for which service the post-office authorities
would be ready to give such remuneration as might be
thought right.
The Chairman suggested that this letter should be
likewise referred to the harbour master's committee,
which was agreed to.
A note was read from Mr. Bouch, enclosing a letter
from Messrs. Chance, glass manufacturers, of Birming-
ham, complaining of inequalities in the dock rating on
glass, a fifty feet box being rated at the same amount as
a hundred feet box.
This letter was referred to the finance committee.
The Chairman said the next subject was the motion
of which Mr. Mondell had given ',notice, to the effect
that communication byelectric telegraph with Holyhead,
and, if practicable, at the needful stations along the
line, be carried out.
Mr. Moredale said, if the committee thought fit, he
would postpone the motion, in consequence of the ab-
sence of the chairman, Mr. Brocklebank, and Mr.
Lockett.

This appeared to the committee a fittinz course, and
accordingly the motion was postponed until next Thurs-
day.

This was the whole of the general business,

HEALTH COMMITTEE.-YESTERDAY.

The usual weekly meeting of this committee was held at
half-past two o'clock yesterday, in the council chamber, Town
Hall, Mr. Langsdale in the chair. Other members present—
Wessrs. Beckwith, M‘Guffie, Robertson Gladstone, Dover,
Haydock, Halhead, Johnson, James Holm°, Hodson,
Godfrey.

PROGRESS OF BUILDING IN LIVERPOOL.
The following annual report of the building surveyors was
read :—Dwelling houses and warehouses erected, or in course
of erecti with;n the municipal borowth of Liverpool, during
the year 1855 : Under £l2 per annum, 63; from £l2 to £25,
1144 ; from £2.5 to £35. 99 ; from £35 upwards, 49; total,
1355 ; warehouses, 9. Comparative statement of the number
of dwelling houses erected in each year since 1838 .-1838,
1052 ; 1839, 997 ; 1840, 1576 ; 1841, 1761; 1842, 2027 ;
1843, 1390 ; 1844, 2450; 1845, 3728 ; 1846, 3460 ; 1847,
1220 ; 1848, 656 ; 1849, 446 ; 1850, 420 • 1851, 837 ;
1852, 1136 ; 1853, 924; 1854, 829; 1854, 1355; Total,
26264. Buildings—not dwelling houses erected, alterations
made, and dangerous buildings taken down or secured, during
the year 1855 :—Buildings.: such as stables, smithies, &c., 77;
such as manufactories, offices, &e., 73. Alterations and addi-
tions : of extensive character, 60 ; of inferior character, 303 ;
dangerous buildings taken down or secured, 97.

HEALTH OF THE TOWN

The medical officer of health reported that, in the week
ending on the 12th instant 228 deaths from all causes were
registered in the borough, being ten more than in the previous
week, but twenty-two less than the average of the correspond-
ing week of the preceding eight years. In the parish, the
deaths were 158 ; in the out-townships, 70. Of 72 deaths
from diseases of the zymotic class, 28 were from scarlatina, 20
from hooping cough, nine from measles, only three from
typhus, two from small pox. The deaths from typhus were
fewer than in any week of the previous six months ; GO deaths
were caused by diseases of the lungs and consumption. Of the
total 228 deaths, 128 were below five years of age, mad 22
above sixty.

The borough engineer, building surveyor, and inspector of
nuisances, reported various particulars of the operations in ►heir
several departments during the week, from which it appeared
that 126 nuisances complained of by inhabitants had been
inspected, and means taken to remedy them ; 1124 houses in
the unhealthiest districts, containing 3664 apartments ; 473
cellars, and 141 lodging houses had been put under examina-
tion, with the view of improving their sanitary condition,

AN ALDERMAN SUMMONED FOR HIS RATES.
Mr. M‘Guffic said that a gentleman, who was in his estab-
lishment a few days since, complained of the treatment which
he had received at the hands of the sub-committee on calling
at the offices in Cornwallis-street. The gentleman was well
known.

Mr. Beckwith : Why not mention his name ? I will do it
—it was Alderman Toulmin ; he complained that he had been
grossly insulted by the proceedings of the constable, and the
manner in which he was insulted was in his being sent a sum.
mons for his rates! He neglected to attend to the letters that
were sent to him, and he then came in a thundering passion to
blow us all up. The town-clerk told him that he had done
everything that the committee required, and to show him that
he had:used every caution in the matter, he produced the form
of letter which the committee directed should be sent to any
and every person before proceedings were taken. He proved
that lie had sent such a letter in this instance, upon which
Mr. Toulmin said that it was a lie, and that the person who
made the statement knew that it was a lie. Of course we felt
very indignant that Mr. Toulmin should come into our office
and insult our officer in our very face. I told him, as a
matter of course, that he should withdraw thoso expressions,
that they were ungentlemanly and uncalled for; and as he felt
very much aggrieved in the matter, and wanted to get two
shillings taken off for the summons, I recommended him to
come before the general committee on this day. . He took a
different view of the matter, and throwing down his money on
the table told us to take his bill out of it; and so ended the
affair. If he had taken my advice and come before the general
committee, the matter would have been investigated, and I
have no doubt that you would have fully exonerated the sub-
committee. I also told him that it was nut to be supposed
that he, an alderman, and a rich and wealthy man, could get
off without payment of his rates—(hear, hear, and laughter)--
and he might depend upon it, that I should always be an advocate
for his or any other alderman---(laughter) —being served as
the poorest individuals were. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. Johnson corroborated Mr. Beckwith's statement, and
declared Mr. Toulmin's language and bearing had been most
offensive. The summons was fir two small sums which his
own clerk had signed an undertaking to pay, and he himself
admitted both the genuineness of the undertaking, and the
authority of the clerk to give it.
Mr. Haydock His precise words were—" it is a lie, and you
;" and he afterwards denied that he made use
of the expressions.

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The Chairman : Oh you blow "you lie" is a common
expression o Mr. Toulmin's. He once called me a liar.
(Laughter.) I think nothing of that.
Mr. Haydock observed that Mr. Ashlin confirmed the law
clerk's statement.

Mr. M‘Guffie said his object had been gained in Mr. Beck-
with's statement.

Mr. Gladstone s The public should understand that we have
a much higher opinion of our town clerk than Mr. Toulmin
seems to possess, and that we think him entirely incapable of
stating an untruth. (Hear, hear.)
The matter then dropped.
Mr. Bradley and Mr. John Nicholson waited on the com-
mittee in reference to thA n+-.e of the parapet of Waterloo

The Chairman stated that the work was now in progress.
Mr. Haydock observed that he had already directed the
attention of the committee to it.
Mr. Beckwith : Oh, yes, I knew we would have a useful
member in Mr. Haydock ; I had always a high
opinion of him:
(Laughter.)

nrawey : Follow his example, then.
(LMr. Beckwith : I won't follow your example, doctor.
aughter.)
The Borough Engineer submitted plans for sewering Grove
Park, and estimated the cost at £640, of which £440 would
fall on Grove Park, and £2OO on Liverpool. By this work,
ho said, they would be enabled to drain Lodge lane. The plane
were approved of. He also submitted specimens of numbers
for houses, which were also approved of.
This concluded the business, 1