The Express.
London, England, 1857-08-01 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 1, 1857.

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know why Is OrerserOrrel bed net ambediel the seer
mat in Osialat ire • wise carpet Ilet haw dr be Mow .
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then Mrs wee any swelty for it 1 (Her, bar.)
TM sere eed see she jarred to rieg ha peat autharty
to depnCeelw_ res reborn et the leer goveneser.
Leal AIILE, who bed a sake at the gape epee
the WPM of the Wive prism, withdraw ft gar the
an mom of the rpm of Indian abin.
CROWN, Sr, SUITS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill wed through committee.
BILL CHAMBER (SCOTLAND BILL.
This bill was mad • third tam sad
BANKRUPTCY AND REAL 8 CURiTIKB (SCOT.
LAND) BILL.
This tell va• read a third elms sad pared,
COMMONS INCLOSU RE BILL.
This ball was read • third time sad word.
PAROCHIAL SCHOOLMASTIRB usconAx
BILL
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Led EENNAIRD means mooed reading of this bill,
at the vaguest of the Lord Advocate, who hared that It could
mot he pseud throngh the lower house in time to comply
withesk lordships resolution as to not reeding bill. after the
7th Amen The Iseseire was merely • continuance bill.
Lord PANXURE hoped then continuance bills would
lan theist al treaplng the subct before the public until
• onapreberive .season on the subject of education in
Sensed wee gemed.
After • dew words from Lord Potosi:re, the bill was
mad • smog time.
TRANSFER OF REAL ESTATE BILL.
Lord BROUGHAM moved the emend reading of tin bill.
He montioned a core whore on a certain maaor,duriag thirty
years, out of 160 conveyances the average length of each was
not mere than 70 words, and the avenge expense 7s. each.
Min bill was founded on the nine principle, and would con-
fer s real benefit on leaded property by Introducing a system
al registration
The LORD CHANCELLOR feared the bill would not
hews muck ennui of becoming law this session, but thought
then vas moth in it that would be valuable in the way of
suggestion. He agreed with the noble sad learned turd that
a netts' of registration nun be the foundation of sn.
phecolinn of transfer end title. A commission had
at on thie snips* and had prompted • very valuable
The bill wee read •second time.
CALEDONIAN AND CRINAN CANALS BILL.
This bill we withdrawn.
The fathering bine passed thro :—Lire'
rise of Land (Ireland) Bill ; Glebe Mamma NIL
The following bill. were reda Om sad pseud
Public Werke (Ireland) Bill; Tnegibi A.b Oialiammele
Bill.
The folkwing bills were nods suer thee :—Land and
Ameseed Tone (Scotland) Acts Anonnotst Bill; Christ
Church (Wrat Hartlencd) Bill; Bankruptcy and Inseams,
(Inland) Bill.
The LORD CHANCELLOR deed the committee ce Oa
Iset-ammed bill for Monday week.
LUNATICS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The Duke of ARGYLL, In movies the second reading of
this ;wt into detsils as to the treatment of lunatics b
Scot sad the swim and demerit. of the band of super-
vision, Inn bees so frequently reported In no pro-
eas=of the oar lemon
I.OLMARTH owl other peers urged the postpone-
ment ef the bit
Afar • pmerselledi cenvenedion the bill wee reed • mond
Mama
The hew adjourned at s quarter after 7 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FItIDAT, JULY 31.
TM &MAW took the dab at 12 o'clock.
BLWIIOII nioncution.
Mr. Benin sew the neeeetory d thee Br the
Roue Darwinist 'bather It hes the Woad= Mita
valemeth le pesetathee wits wore repotted be
remihers le bate viekted the law daring Ike
asifilks" se theetherthe pneathisa wee to be coattail Lie
to
the thither of the wag et Wert
fk MT dial theme d meaty of Me"
thicker. ylk immetweet eligethandsr et ha ow
ANA et the essoltaso, Erb a seethe he the
et twoteepeY aeweedua id& the We Be
did wet thaw who we the Wart pumas le dim Ibe boa.
dpiolledied, bet be had eo doubt duet If the ekes amt
eethealea eethethee made • thislist mil=e the
been, the them weal Mel with it ea the jeatke of the
ere wadi haw rhimad.
PROBATRS AND LITTIRS OP ADMINISTRATION
(LULAND) BILL.
The 1/11 pad three. einwittee pee dusk.
RE•1111110 unarm gamy) BILL.
Os the meta iv euleg Mth amailese be,
Mr. NAP= etittal eel ii bill wee pool at to
La • weld et as eswita. etisel el Ihe bill was to
Meths two rewbig %Wilms fkr day et Delft, ewe et
tam, Hr. Wire, lei l duu sigeletel Wet due

net of 1861. He thought that 11 the HE paned gnat Was-
*, wig be done to Mr. Shaw, who punned the duties of
the ernes as one of the deputies et the late chairman of the
ementy of Dublin sinew IM3, Ina manna which gam the
mast amid:tenon. Believing that the bell was west unfair
eadtastjust towards Mr. Shaw. be begged leave to move that
the WI be committed that day mouth.
Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD said that the present qemetlon
wee seemly a queetion Xi to the renstruction of an act of
Nemen• Under the Reform Art the duties of revisit*by
Melee for the city of Dublin were to be discharged by the
chairmen of the county of Dublin. Ile had too much to do
to perform three duties, and he oppototed Mr. Dobbs es hi:,
deputy to 1831. The dutim of revision for the city of
Dublin became very much augmented, and It became DOM-
rry to eppoint three deputtes. Accordingly Mr. Dobbs
((echo performed the duties Silted 18311, Mr. Shaw sad Mr.
Kemmis, were appriuted. Die right hon. and trained friend
seemed to throw Mr. Debts and Mr. lienimis overboard
altogether. In March hat the chairman of the county of
Dublin, who appointed three gentlemen died, and he con-
tended that with the death of the chairman the he
and
conacquottly the dunce, of the deeuties ceased. In 1851 an
set of perimutent wee rimed what gave the Lord-Lien,
tenant the power of appointing a teviming barrister
in the event of the death of the chairman of the county.
The getvernmeot apr•intol Mr. O' Hers, and as he could nut
frforriltteirdutoticieivaute goe•Lttdtlcidi,,,,,it weainitt
theereproywerto
.feolnp_e
porting another. It was absolutely neceseary that the go-
vernment should bring in Gehl Lill in order that the electors
tithe Citr of Dublin 'eight not he defrauded of their sights.
The &lb 'tor-Gummi for Ireland took madly the same view
'tithe acts of parliament as be did. Ile denied that the go-
emmoent were liable to blame fur *taxying the bill, became!
Ass It was before the house on • former ecemion hon. and
Wised gent), men objected to proceeding with it.
Mr. HARDY said it appeared to him doubtfol whether
the three gentlemen were the deputies or substitutes of the
late cbainuen. Dot what he principally objected to wee the
giving the appointment of the revising barristers, who should
be free hum the taint of political bias, to a political
functimmeT:hke the Leed-lituteuent of Ireland. (Hear.)
Mr. surr entirely concurred in the remark of the hon.
and !send gendamsn who had just spoken, that there ay-
Flatmate iasesid Imp made by non-politlial functionaries,
met asthsprlger, which was the followed in Engand;
int, 'untruly easserebag with the Attorney-General to his
semetractket of the seta of parliament, he could not do other •
wise than vote for going into committee.
Mr. WHITESIDE supported the amendment, on the
thee It would be unfair to them gentlemen who
peethrased the duties of revision to discard them
Menitheir Mikes. It seemed to him that the whole thing

was a ake_joh.
Ws G. GRET it might be that the system of leaving
the appointment of revising barristers to the judges, as was
done in England, was preferable to the system which existed
in Ireland. But that WA not the question before the house.
At the tame time bemnet say that the system which existed
in gad was as free from ohjevtion, and several corn-
plaintelmd been Eris ea the subject. As to the present
MM.tetW art flit ONO meld he any doubt whatever
SOlkeaYrefdsEmlp ed witth the death of the prio.
ibekewld titatillits Ingest that the house should go
alineektse, end If la eamtnittee it was thought de-
did the appointment of the revising hamlets?'
amid ha made by the jades, a motion could be made to
rat effect.
Yr. ht•bIAIION said that the greeted nepotism pyeeailed
making the eppotanneats of revising barristers in Fai-
ls/rd. lie thought the government were clearly right in their
!dew of the present case.
Yr. GREEIt supported the view taken by the Attorney-
General for Ireland.
Colonel FRENCH was very much oppored to giving the
pdatment to the Lord. Lieutenant the Lord Chancellor
of Ireland. It should be recollected that the eon of the Lord
Chancellor had stood for the City of Dublin at tho late
election, and was defeated.
Sir B. BRIDGES thought it very undesirable that these
appointments should be connected with politics.
- The house divided :
For going tato committee....
_ Against .

67-33

On chines or,
Mr. NAPIER proposed that the &Mideast barrister to be
appointed under the bill should be =ley the Lord
Chiefly/dice, lantseil of the Lord-
Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD thought b era ear tO
the in the heads of thetl—Lseeenr. Laid-Ideressik Wilo
ass a Mawr Is dr eterry, and net Waal le in Wig
with the haul NE* of Doha, is the LW QM Jura
might be. le knew thin went mempirs=irs
that rung and iirinpetatt kreiller are le
reist-the its to Ws. Oa gausede el
he theught
ux=it.wenid be maliTetter left laths
beads lithe
ail be yes eitZ that the sp•
=rwall be meth Wee la tbe el the Lied
ake of leelmed. A. be red Ile did et
the b was to emir a eve pima.
Mr. B. HERBERT all the Ire objection be meter es
bill whin he saw it raid ft emoted • re Oar mei
stay withdraw Ms ria Asa he hest det It MB
absolutely Isseasibli 11C, =ll.o=the dale
revision'. Nese be his preset
~tSseWiese mourn imam Mr air that no ma
M crested.
Wail TRENCH re rritplitealbst If Ges eeperierat
wee le eared emi et ell, inhabit be le Ike bib et the
L t r T =arta Oa die seddelerel *di be
Ilw
vale by three chief Jeri% arlesi IN Lei Odd
112PILIT aid Aat eirdilerel seek WbM
Judith' tiertreedee be fie her dr trioldea
polldmf lbes ark spdlded drollery.
INENEI -stpow/ that it semen, b Yfl eat dare
sideredir ~GM Hest the adder et the whim
stewair melded to appal Thee ree so perms ter
lir. Mises wee pelbee. set be All
seessat "LeePdi 11.1.
rode rode ea ret ear gen=
grit nerit.
Ma, NAPIER said *MU did not much ore *Ear be
71rt in the ire& of the Lord Chief Mir et
.adree jumicee.
BILDTARD Welled that the committee reellailipt
the rineiple whist riled and which rebid ma la
lothrari.vingz. ntraasit.,
tread r..
The 011.11 WINOS
Per lb. Thities amendment
88-23
Mr. Ni CI
t trai. that the principle involved was so Im-
portant that he drald like to have the opinion of a Misr
house on the question, and for that purpose he begged teem
to move that the chairman report program.
Mr. BOUVERIE suggested that the bill should be
allowed to pi through committee, es the only stage on which
the house could dards on the question which the right hon.
and learned ratifier desired to raise, was on bringing up
driZParree= beariiis point win
minutes to fourothila, by the rulte of the hotingetdill oda:Maio tee
terminates.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH CONTINUANCE
BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
SLICK/ ELECTION PETITION.
Sir J. Y. BELLER brought up the report of the Sligo
election petition, which stated that J. P. Somers, Esq., was
not duly elected at the last election for the borough of Sligo,
and that the right hon. 3. A. Wynn or duly ehood at the
mid election, and ought to have been returned. The report
ales stated that the committee altered the poll by striking off
the saints of certain parties from the poll of Mr. Somme, and
adding them to the poll of Mr. Wynn ; that one per-
son's name was struck off the poll of Mr. Somers, who had
not voted at all, and that others had been added to the poll of
Mr. Wynn who bad been improperly refused.
It was then mimed, on the motion of the hen. gentleman,
that the Clerk of the Crown should attend in the house on
Monday next, for the purpose of amending the return by
setatituting the name of Mr. Wynn fur that of Mr. Somers.
The house then adjourned till 6 o'clock.
The Srresseu aria rook the chair at six o'clock.
THE ELECTION PETITIONS.
Lord STANLEY brought up the report of the select com-
mittee appointed to try the merits of the petition complaining
of an undue return for the b cough of Ipswich. The com-
mittee reported that Hugh Edward Ara, Esq., and John
Chevalier Cobbld, Esq., were duly elicited.
Mr. COBSETI' brought up the report of the select com-
mittee appointed to try the merits of the petition against
the return for the county of Huntingdon. -The committee
reported that John Mayer Headmote, Esq., was not duly
elected, and that Edward Fellowes, Esq., was duly elected.
The llog. Massa moved that that:lark of the Crown do
attend the bra with the kr Mara ihr the county ..f
Huntingdon on Monday next to said the mime by arming
the name of John Mayer Heathers. Esq.
Agreed id.
PARLIAMBNIAZT MK&
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Laid 3. Jai-ilia:2ll4 ih; f;i1;1761 On Mon-
day I doll propose the& a Meet comeateeo be appointed to
oarlike arbetbar the Ala d end 41 WEL IV., e. 62, is &opt],
Oa& to the oaths appointed by law to be token by ntetabors
at the table proviandy to Ur& Weir Emir rata, and in
whit mama tbe ate ea ones, awl to meet threes to the
bore. I 'bill pupae lot the esaritew omelet of 25
smatbees, sad that tie podleseas dM
eekw robe be added.
lls ginft tide aide% I beg to ea lay mile Mend at the
ei et the govetunest vbetber. es ts geodes crams
tbe seat ate member, aed asthma ie oely aloe period dut-
ies idol* he tan eft la the pewee steles, be will alder the
melba to to bow& larverd ea Sway.
Lord PALMERSTON—I eta Toy magnet; tab a
to the ieterpoitieme/ ether matters before the Winer which
Meads he stanelderetlen ; but soder the eirearoateatee staled
by soy noble bind I cola hardly rebus to yield to Me appeal.
EDUCATION •
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81r J. PAILLNOTONeaIti he had gives notice of hit in.
tendon to move the appointment of s rommlttee on edu•
mica, sad he bed iodentord Out the government would
not Opprell it. He should like to know whether the noble
lord so the bead of the goverment would give him s day for
bringlag aside motion.
Lord PALMERSTON woad ear& him colleagues on
the aubjeet, sad give the right los. baronet ea sower
Is the mem et the mialise.
POOR LAW GUARDIANS IN IRELAND.
Mr. MACARTNEY wished to sat the Chief Serratary
for trelead whether the Par-lewCaatmlarloaera for Ireland
lad row* to any derision ea to the thty or illegallq
ol a gaid Wiper of • sake, and appeMid a magletrete, nal

thereby becoming an ea-ollicio gnerlien, taking pert In the
proceeding., and voting on questions affecting his conduct
and remuneration ; end whether than was soy objection to
Lying on the table of the house • copy of the core
between the Middleton bard of guardians sad the
law commissioners, upon the right of Dr. Barry to yore as
an en ofnero guardian, he being one of the paid taws tithe
Won.
Mr. 11. HERBERT, in reply to the first inquiry, had
to observe that the queetion had not actually Lan rabid
before the pour-law oxembeioners in Ireland unneeded offi-
cers of a union pneraly, but with regard to • doctor
of a diepeseary (Benet who was a megistrate, the
question had bean relied whether he bed a right to et as an
ea-officio guardian; end the pour law conroxiseoners had
given it as their opinion that he was legally entitled to sit
as a guardian; but that u • matter of propriety and decorum
be ought not to vote on any question involving the manage-
ment of his owe diepmaary or the amorist of his own rainy.
There was a clause in the ;nst.ish Poor Law Act prohibiting
any party who received a edam' out of the poor rates front
voting ea a guardia_ ,n and at wee • very serious question
whether it would not be proper to 'Mend that provision to
Ireland. (Hear, hoer.) With regard to the eecond question,
het hod to state that thee had barn no communication in
which Dr. Barry was named at all, that abstrmt gumdrops
had limn put by the clerk of the Midletott Union. If his
hon. friend moved for the paper, ho should not object to it,
Winn laid on the table.
DESPATCH OF TROOPS TO THE ItED RIVER.
In reply to a question from Mr. ADDERLET,
Sir J. It AMSDEN said the troops which bad been sent
to the Red River were sent to replace • body of penaioncre
whose term of service expired rather mote than a year age.
OFFENSIVE SMELLS.
Mr. ADDERLEY said on the previous day the right hon.
baronet the First Commissioner of Works stated, in reply to
a question from himself, that under the Noise:mu Removal
Act there woe no power of euppressing ouch nuisances
ho referred to. He 'Mould like to know whether a previous
act, which was not repealed, did not give ample powers.
Sir 0. GREY maid by the art to which the hon. gentle-
man referred power was given to the Secretary of State to
direct informations to be laid in reference to any trade ranted
on in the metropolis, which orcocioned notions or offensive
*Movie. As regarded the set of hat sermon it was provided
by the third weave that no proceedings should be taken
under that act with regard to other Defences besides smoke,
unless it appeared that the lard authorities bad failed to take
proceeding, for their suppression. With respect to the cam
referred to ~u the previous day. he understood that his right
hon. friend had recently called the attention of the local au-
thorities of Lambeth to the subject, end it remained to be been
whether th would tete any stem.
TILE MAIL I'ACKET SERVICE.
Lord NAAS salad the Secretary to the Treasury what
I elope had been taken by her Majesty's government ;La;
ounce of the report of the committee on contract
appointed under the Treasury minute of March I, 1813;
and whether it wee now contemplated to grant ancatenate
of any existing outruns, notwithstanding the modilieatitee
reommended in that report I'
Mr. WILSON said the report to which the noble lord nr-
fened was a very keg ana and contained • great umber of
recommendation. He supposed Ids boa. friend referred
CPlll'l'llll ly to the paragraph which had 11161.111 K• to the length
ot the contracts- ike the pedal mirk*. That reagmph
pointed out what appeared to him the nee principles on
which the original contracts and the renewal centracta were
based ; and he wu not aware whether or not the hon. gen-
tleman concurred I. what wee said. Meet of the services had
Lim very long. The Pudenda: end Oriental contract
when but renewed WIN made to extend over eight
years, and in the ease of the West India contract
the period was 11 years. There was no official pro-
posal before the Treasury at present for the
extension of any of the aerviees, and if there should be any
such proposal that would be the proper time to consider
whether it was for the public advantage that any extension
should take place.
THE SCHOONER MARIA.
On the motion that the house at its rising do adjourn till

Monday, -
Mr. JOHN LOCKE, in pursuanee of noire, called the
atteetke of the hem to the seizure of the British schooner
Mulegovemn , bt Tan end *eked 'bother her Majesty's
int bed resolved ray tightemy repl from
Majesty's Chore (Albite* at CAMICea
CII OS the subject l' The
hoe. nenber old although very Meg emematations had
been made by the Vice-Consul to the Clime d'Affaires at
Carmen so notice had yet been takes', dm ; sad thereto,* it
wee Net be brought the subject before As hem. Ho would
s.l.lelate the cierumances of the ease: The permit who
was Captain Corley, of the schooner Maria,
in cattle between Demerara and Venezuela. It &ti-
tbit ea Sr back se the I ith of February, 1816, be
snivel et Comes, at the mouth et the Orinoco, his vessel
having gm Wear in ballot for the purpose of load-
ing will entle, which were to be Ulm to Venezuela;
after the vend lisi eachared, the Custom-house officers
came ea Ism* fist
st the vessel w
dmply in Wit, they enne tweed, cotton,
and other an& ankle; end leek them on shore.
Captain Oeseley was fined INltialinte, and duty wet imposed
Ind paid In resmt of the ankles et which complaint was
urr,:tiz. imist. The chos wan mil Capitols Ouseley pro.
ended ep the 01411003. wee Mod, and he was
serried to 114.11•117. Legal were taken, which
oat Captain Guseley of 3, dollies. But of this
be did not complain . his complaint was that our chafe
fades' did net take steps In the miner in order to aid a
Britt& subject, as he was In duty boned le de.
Lord PALMERSTON gated that es ens au his noble
Mond et the heed of the Foreign Deptenneet became aware
4 ilisios to which his boa Mimi MI
lis putbiassell Ix otswalmfeatims with the enesefeleemhil
Vemereele, who lopped to be la Engird, ind was about
to raters, eteglag Vint had emened, end regatilag him to
betel the matter mantas emehleeetlat al Ma goverment.
At the same thee bralrenkne were gives le the chart:4
Wallies to take suck slaps as sight be .moldered needful.
Time lad not yet e to Gable him to receive replies,
but the ham might wit that hie noble friend would
not fail to take such memo es he might believe necessary.
THE BENGAL ARMY. . . .
..

Sir J. PAKII4bITO7,I;;;;;aak the Pim! Lord of the
Treasury whether he would lay upon the table of the house
the report made by the late Lieutenant-Genera Sir Clerks
Napier to the Duke of Wellington, upon the
80., of the Bengal army ? Perhaps the house 741:laild
eplaion that this Amnion bad already been inked—had
Andy been deddad upon, in the case of the motion which
led been mode by hi. right hon. friend the member for
/gate, and had already been set filially at rest by the pro-
denim et the paper which was that day in the hands of hon.
members. Bat he believed that, in point of fact, the matter
had never been actually sad molly adverted to by the govern-
ment. He had received, privately, Information which con-
, vlneed him that there had been some enimpprehension,
Ineinauch as he ea, told there were two distinct despatehee,
to
had
only of which the noble lord in the ',newer* which he
had given had referred. The despatch referred to by the noble
lord, and extracts from which bed been laid on the table,
wee • despatch addremed by Mr C. Napier, not to the Duke
of NVelliegton but to Lord Dalhousie, and through Lord
Dalhousie to the HorsesCherale. But in this despatch there
was a plumage which corniest,' the statement which be
had just made with respect to the existence of a second
despatch. It ran thus Thule ees mule things which
admit of euvenilan ,• this my be put right when the
eaminenilMs‘sablaf MOANS en a proper footing but not
ton Den. Lea einiMW dim matter m another lAter." It
wee that other Inter le which he referred. If be were car •
rally informed spirt to which he now alluded con-
tained a clear minimise of the evils attending the present
Male of the Benibm army, and prophesied that ere long a
Grine would antes realese some firm and decisive steps were
taken. Imam& as this despatch related wholly to the
Bengal army and did not touch any question of external de-
fence, he thought that the government would find no diffi-
culty in placing it upon the table.
Lord PALMERSTON—With regard to the question of
the right hoe. baronet it is quite cornet that on a former
menden I Mated that the report which I understood the
queetim referred to, was not a report made to the Duke of
Wellington by Sir Charles Napier, but a report made to
Lord Dalhousie, of which a copy wee mat in a private letter
from Lord Dalhoueie to theWte of Wellington. It referred
generally to the external defences of the country, mere es•-
deny or competed with the annexation of the Ponjaub, but
there were pertions of it relating to the Indian areaand thew
I have placed before the house. The right boa. baronet het
put a question eels' ing to another and subsequent report, and
in confirmation of his statement he puts his band upon one
of the extrecta from the letter DOW pieced on the table. This
wend letter the right ben. baronet presumes to have been
addressed to the Duke of Wellington, and not to Lord Dal-
housie, and to have been dated in 1850. It is, however,
more probable that that letter was written, like the other, to
Lerd Dalhousie, for it wee that nobleman whom Sir C.Napier
was aldreseing in the extract on the table. All I can stele
ir, that when this question was first put, I inquired, and was
informed that tie report to which my 'newer referred, and
of which extracts are new on the table, wa• the only report
found to 'newer to the qualities put by the right how
baronet, and that was found with some private pepere only
after some &ley. To this I can only add, that I shall con-
sider it to be our duty to inquire whether there is each a
report as that referred to by the right hon. baronet. If there
be ouch a report, and it contain no mere than the right hoe,
gentleman mates, I do not see that there will be any objec-
tion to producing it ; but I meet, of course, read it bere I
cm venture to make any promise on the subject.
Mr. AYRTON said that the Impression on this subject in
India war that Sir C. Napier had had en interview with the
Duke of Wellington on the eubjeet, and that by him Sir
Charles had been requested to put his views into writing,
which he bad dom.
CHRISTIAN CONVERTS IN INDIA.
-

Mr. WHITESIDE rose to call the attention of the house
to the petition of the Hindoo inhabitants of Bengal, Behar,
sad 0 for themselves and the other Hindoo inhabitants
of the raid provinna. In the 0114 place, he would cell atten-
tion to the fact that Colonel Percy had given it so his opi-
nion that the society from which this petition had emanated,
was not altogether blameless in the events which had taken
place in India. Now, as he believed that that society was
composed of the most enlightened, latrutd, sad wealthy la-
habitants of India—men who might truly be said to represent
the public, the natives of that great territory. The
petition stated that the Hindoo population were
greatly aggrieved by the sot No. 20, of 1851,
which refined to so much of say law or stage thee in
Soros within the tereitteries el the East India Empathy so
Waled say forfeiture of rights of properly, or rights re
inheritance, by realms of reasetaciag the onrotsualon of gay
religion, or the derivation of oasts. The petitioners plated
oat that seek a law ss this was ravousive of @my We of

Hindu life, that It would overturn the custom' which long f
periods of years had established, and that it would snap the
axon= bond by which society had been preserved from dis-
solution during amend periods of war, anarchy, and recut!-
' skin, and wu preserved in the present day under British role
In tbeevent• which had now occurred, this document,
ceeding as ft did from no despicable sourer,uo-
e, was of UN
utmost Importance; and with a view to bring it under
the attention of the house, he should, at a later
period, move that that appendix be reprinted.
Mr. V. SMITH said that the course taken by the bra.
and learned member was even more of than what
usually took place on these runtime, for adjiiiirnnund to
Monday. Ile had taken the opportunity of calling attention
to • matter with respect to which be had a substantive
motion on the paper. /Ic regretted much, however, that the
hen. gentleman had alluded as he had to Colonel Perry.
That gentleman was moat popular in India, be wee ex-
tremely favourable to the natives; he had, iu fad, married a
native lady. It will, quite true that he had expressed an
opinion upon this subject ; whether that was correct or not
future investigation would show. With regard to the act of
01.50 he pointed out that that law was but an extension of
the policy of former year., and although he went as far as
any one in deprecating any interference with the view of
tuning Christianity on the Hindoo, yet he must worn the
house against the apposite course of piecing Christian ilia-
doom In a worse poiotion than tither natives.
Sir K. COLEBROOK E was of opinion that the act of
IMO wee a direct and imprudent violation of general usages
of the Hindnoe, and without giving an undue prominence
to the matter, he was quite ready to believe I
that it had, with other things, done its part in
forcing matters to their present unfortunate position.
A noble lord had in another place dated that Lord Canning
had given the public money to the missionaries, and that be
wee deserving of censure for so doing ; but the fact was, that
Lord Canning bad orders to distribute the public money to
them, and the invitees were unable to make the distinction.
Colonel Wheeler, also, had been censured for disseminating
tracte : but it the government set the example how could
they fairly censure the am-saints? He must say that such po-
licy was of a questionable character, but lie quite believed with
the President of the Loud of Control that much of it hod been
adopted under preseure from the House of Commons. Ile
thought that the matter should be taken into serious consi-
deration, fur to it, he believed, might be traced much of what
had recently occurred in Bengal.

Mr. MANGLES admitted himself to have been in error in
what he misted on a former evening respecting the forfeiture
of property by a Hindoo on embracing Christianity. He
had spoken from memory, and now begged to accept the cor-
rection of the hon. and learned member.

Sir C. WOOD denied that the ininute Waled by bim, when
at the head of the Board of Control, respecting education in
India, had been helical under pressure from the House of
Commons. That minute wee most deliberately considered,
and wan submitted to the fell Court of Ditecters. It was
considered to have been a perfectly safe minute, and bad no
tendency whatever to encourage proselytiem. It provided
that the education given ehould be purely seeular, and that
grants in aid should be given to schools of all denomination..
He did not know how religious equality could be better pre-
served than by observing the strictest neutrality as regarded
all the different sects.

Colonel SY KES attempted to address the holm, lout the
mite of Question" wets universal, and the diaetteefon
.

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terminated. The motion for the adjournment until Monday
next wee then agreed to.

DIVORCE AND MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL.
On the order of the day for the resumption of the ad-
journed debate,
Messrs. BOWYER and Hurt severally presented petitions
against the bill.
Mr. GLADSTONE—Sir, in justification of the comae
which was adopted last week when a considerable portion of
this house demanded further time for the eunvidtration of the
marriage question, I could not appeal to anything more con- I
elusive than the comae which the present debate ham taken.
Lad week, when the noble lord at the had of the govern- '
meal was told that the subject could not be fairly or fully con-
sidered during the present seseion,or at the present advanced
period of the session, he replied, on the contrary, that he saw
DO rows why the debate could not be carried on with the
same earoestnees and force as at any other time; adding, that
if , the duration of the session might be extended
to an tadeflnite period. But in the course of Let evening
what did we whams ? (Ileac, hear.) There waa no unkind •
nos, certainly, on the part of the house, but such a state of
lassitude ea was entirely unconquerable, and which made it
impossible for many gentlemen to state their opinions.
(Hear, hear.) After the a hof my hon. and learned
d the Attorney-0 with the exception of the hon.
member for Hertfordshire, the speeches were all on one
side, eight gentlemen in succession speaking sgaint the bill
—a circumstance almost unparalleled, according to my recol-
lection of the practioe of the House of Commons. I shall not
speak of the akin), of those speeohes ; because, perhaps, I may
be looked upon as • partisl judge ; but any one will adunt
their eeeneetnese, while the magnitude of the subject cannot
be doled. And yet it remained, rI have said, a one-
Weil debate, and the sense of Impatience which was ex-
hibited en any allusion to the possibility of a division, was at
last canueneruated by the declaration of the Secretary of
State, who actually complained that the division did not
take plain lest night, that there were symptoms of
premeditation connected wit the prolongation of the debate.
[Sir G. Gary made= °lngres/ion.] My right hon. friend,
as I weihrstand, edam to the word, and is not sorry he
used It Time rigid boa. gentleman never saw clearer sign
of premeditation. Der be task that the signs of premedita-
tion went useind as the pat at Sae who, under cireum•
elms of greet diercaregeneent, discharged; what they
firmed to be • onselenties• eiligatios, or with those who
when this great and new sad mast important subject was
before the boar mrshimi_ esamatleally Jihad, fa order that
they might wive at a divides. (Heer, hear.) Ido not lay
a charge or blame Isom say one • for this is too serious a
subject for party reakeinatiOns. It is not a subject
upon which to Enke eesoeraiona to party prejudices.
or to offer proles or Mame to any government, and
I have not said what has escaped me to cast blame on any
one, but rather to ask jellies for those who dated that this,
gust question was one which it would be Impossible to do
Junket° under the chreimetauces in which it la now pressed
ea nu. It may be said that the argument is all one way, and
that ffss speeches opposed to the government bill contained
mildew that waa deserving of an avower, but that might be
rid to any debate, and besides is not the view taken by the..
whole opinions are worthy of all consideration. It is militi-
a/red that the circumstances under which this bill is pressed
forward are unusual and unprecedented, and that those who
oppose it do so not only in deference to their own sense of
duty, bat is obedience to a very strong feeling on the part of
Isrge_bodies of their fellow-en a,. (Hear, hear.) We are
called upon to discuss a clink t and important subject at a
period of the session at which during twenty years such a
subject has not been laid before parliament. We are not
attended to when we ask for time to obtain the ordinary in-
formation connected with the subject, its figures or details. but
I hope we shall be attended to when we lay that the house is
proceeding in ignorance els strong feeling on the part of the
country whenever an opportunity bas been given fur eliciting
that feeling. (Rear.) It is in vain to ray that all this ought
to have been known before. The circulation of 'cremation,
after all the accelerations of modern invention, is not very
rapid, at leaat of that sort of information which brings a
subject completely home to those who are interested ; but
still a strong feeling has been excited, and I must spend some
minutes in giving the house a sample of the way in which
people are moved, and also in showing how the conduct of
government, in pressing forward this bill, has checked and
prevented the preparation of petitions. I have myself re-
ceived lettere stating that government appeared determined
to press on this bill, and that therefore the writer must for-
ward his petition with such signature. as he could hastily
collect. One gentleman writes from Cornwall that if it were
not for the ahortneen of the time he could get his petition signed
by eight tentba of the population of the pariah. He says that
the labouring climes are &palest the bill to a man, and also a
large proportion of the middle climes. (Hear, ear.) An-
other writes from Lincolrsehire, that the bill as it came down
from the Lord. is thoroughly hateful in the eyee of the great
alma of the middle chows and the poor, eminently no amongst
all church people, but very markedly so amongst religions
dissenters. (Hear, hear.) From Suffolk I learn that all
chaos are against the bill, one poor man making the remark,
that instead of the merrier vow running, "until death do
to part," it should be, ' until we two quarrel." (Cheers,
and laughter.) The writer who forwards a petition, adds,
that the signatutee would be trebled if a little more time were
allowed. Another writes from \Vantage that it would be
impossible to exaggerate the state of feeling in his district.
In short I am certain that neither the government
nor the parliament hail any conception of the danger
that exiets of tampering with this law, or of the
number of honest men, fathers of families, who are hostile
to the change proposed. I dare .ay it may be alleged that
the people complaining do not know what ere the provisions
ofthe bill. Very true; but can there poseibly be a better
ground for Racing more time? I have no doubt that that is
the can; in fact, I have seen it in the letters of educated
persona, and it is the only point upon which I have the
slightest complaint to make of the government. It is not
consistent with the general rule of parliament that such a
nteasure as the present should be in such a way forestalled.
What is the reason that it is so forestalled ? It in not cutely
the importance of tootling a question in which a few indivi-
dual, may have an interest ? My noble friend tho member
fir Lynn seemed to know more about motives than most el
us. and told us ingenuouely his roman why the bill should
be proceeded with. It is forsooth that we may have some-
thing to show for our mouton. (Ilm.) The necessity
of not presenting a Hank liet to the country, ia the reason
why the bill is to be pressed forward under the present
untavoureble circumstances. I may that we have no right to
mekeehencter for this 'setae in that manner. Wo are not
to hurry on an important eubject, lent it should be said out
of doors that we were idle, and that in the estimation of the
paWk we should lose carte. Believe ate that the true and
Wog estimation of our countrymen will, after all, derail,
set ea the rapidity with which we hurry mamas throve'
*elm% bat on quality mad wisdom and durebilltyd
thanauweres whoa they has boom law. (Roar, been
Bat it ie sail that ors soma sesessh this bill without ems.
eldettergthealismalwawitheatteassidering what hasbesalhe I
preview peastise et gallma whisk as mated by slarage
and honed kiosk hen hem rat
bakit of
bills without queerkm. Ido let Memorable thatzys
thath eremite
areal and serious difficulty in the bat this I dory theist
three alternativra--one, that s 1 ming this bill; inother„ the
motioning to peen private bills oaloanuntil we INS seem
wa:itib.,z;. and the third, that etalefollh, priesesesbalko
alternative at pads! We 1M at Me tie le b•
the sea disigerans. (Raw, bies„) I Imlay
I:Zirabirthat new maw meta migne—sal soma to *Mess
sere et theme signs—ot the crude Sweat wbat may be celled
the pertheratary alai ea ilia walakwt. It was way darts(

the present year that I myself found leisure to minim!
and until within the last few nights I was quite twit to pas
an opinion on the Lill. We are told in the public jutting"
that ten minute° or at most half an hour, is enough far tju
settlement of the quretion. Such dicta as HA. toy pare
the mahatma with which we deal with the tarot maim a
human interests, but they do not Sewn our respasibility,
Of BMW WA from future embarramments or tuturo lialiNty,
It is said that we have not objected to them prliate
bills, and the inference drawn is, that not having objseted
to these private bill, we ought not to object to the Weigp,
now before the house. My answer to such argument ia, that
when parliament hea entered into a emirs,: of 'skate Lab,
in
the nature of privilegia, it ceases to be congruent to members
of parliament to take objection Co these private Lilo. He
had stmag instance of that the other day, in the cam of
Shepherd*. Diutbility Removal Bill. There am, Ls, ro firs
ms pedent., hut the rule is that if you object to my pt at,
bill, you inapt raise tho generalgeneral queation. I minter in thiea
and it is the one general correction which I Man have to
apply to the very incorrect statement of the At hazel-General,
that this fixed syatem to little fixed that oleo there divorm
bill. showed a tendency to grow there Iwo bra a mmag
parliamentary tendency to check them. Twice dansa
the last century, and onto of the a lose of the century,
attempts were nude with that view. I grant tja,
those attempts failed; but that only proves recs
strongly the noressity at full discuasion, and that now,
when we take anew alerting point, we are bound card*
to examine the whole matter. It may be said that the two
statements—one, that there is great. danger in preeijitmey,
and the other that there ua among leelin,.; in the main,
—emu; for, that if we legielate hastily, whoa the pal&
feeling's strong againnt LA, we can easily retrace ear any..
But, to my opinion, to rely on each a reptuentation uto
rely on aurora fallacy. The feeling of the country in, I bc.
bete, against this measure; but if this measure is panda
although against the ruling of an overwhelming waymty of
Chrisitian husband. and wives, then I believe you •il taw
constituted an interest, a party, a sect, who will hate • pm.
suraptive tight in the new law, and that thus it will beams
impartible for you ton al your heat). decision. (Hear, beer)
What then is thu effect of the Lill before tat, which is said to
be of such modest mope end extent p The object of the by
is to deal with marriage se a whole, and in that ass et
is so admirably treated by Lord Stowell, that I and eta apt-
loom for quoting the passage from his work. Led Stowell
describes the threefold character of niarrimpr: ling..' a he
of nature antecedent to the torination of society, tad an to-
portant but merely perooaal contract between two ;au,.
and neat, when society is formed, as not merely a persoul
but a civil contract with civil obligations. Thirdlyorbea
the religious prinuiple is received into a state, munage
comes a religious contract, accompanied by plighted vows,
which heaven is called upon to witness. Finally, the Woad
the indissolubility of inarria,ge was taken Man &Timms
Lord Stowell thus distinguishes between the difforat dun,
taw of marriage ; and I think the great dittienky es
have to deal with is, that the home is nut mulled
to deal with marriage in all them three charade,
(Hear, hear.) If it undertakes not only to deal MA
the civil connwptences and obligations of mamas
which are within its province, I believe the problem woeld be
easy of solution, but n likewise undertake. to determine wkst
shall be the effect of solemn vows passed between oat lei-
vidual and mother; and lardy it undertakes, not Led:dread
• with any theological authority, to set Men" up as a ruler over
• the consciences of men, and to absolve them trust the uvtiga.
Gone of marriage which had been undertaken by solemn vow
in the face of the congregation. (Hoar. hear.) In my
opinion, a great deal of our difficulty arises front taking that
• view, and it would be a great relief to toy mind if we aim
seated to legialate for that for which ware coropeunt,namelv,
the civil coneequences and responaibilitim of marriage. To
admit that vows taken before the throne of God Feta be
. _

influenced by the power of this bowie would, in my
mind, be a most degraded doctrine. (Hear. hem.) a
now described the greet defect of the bill, I Mall
to examine some of the weertiens of the Attorney.
Ile says that although technically we have no code an the
subject of merrier, yet that in point of fact the proceedings
of the legialeture in such matters are judicial proceedings;
that the cede is uwell known as any other branch of ths
law, end that it has been in force fur 200 rears. I cum,*
admit this latter ae a correct statement. The practice las
beech, • Mete of growth for 200 years, but it is not 100 yens
since the system has arrived at its present state. Is it a
Argon even yet F My hon. and learned friend says that the
code is as well ascertained and dearly defined as any Mkt
branch of our law. ("Hear," from the Attorney-Genera) 4
that true ? What says the standing order of the Hoar d
Leeds? That no bill of divorce shall be introduced in whisk
there is ant a provision forbidding the adulterate parties tote*.
marry Every bill ir hired uoid wit h that clause; and althaegl
the clause Is subsequently struck out, it shows that the bet
I. one way and the pearlier another ; and yet my hoe. ed
learned friend says that the code is as clearly defined as say
other branch of our law. My hon. and learned friend mp
that divorce wee the principle of the Reforniatien. IMI
come to that by-and-by; but further than that, he says the
the indissolubility of marriage depended upon its bag
sacrament. Zhou. and learned friend was nut very dm.
Dcm that I. [An observation uctfrom the Attomey•
General.) my hon. and keened friend disclaim that
doctrine of the sacrament? for that is the position melded
the promoters of the bill take their stand. If youleok
the report of the commission upon which this MI k
founded, you will find that the sacramental character d
marriage is the point upon winch their report tam
It le contended that in Roman catholic times marriage ea
held to be a sacrament, end therefore indissoluble, and tin
the Reformation, in taking away the sacramental chums
took away its indissolubility. Now, I say that that asserts
is entirely without foundation. The Council of Trent be
declared that marriage is indissoluble independently el
sacramental character. (Rear, bear.) On the other head,
in the Eastern church, in which marriage is held to to.
sacrament, it is also dissoluble. So much fur diseolablie
and the sacramental character. (Hear, hear.) I mad
compliment my boo. and learned friend' on embarking HI
fortunes in so crazy • craft as • position of thin deserve'
(Cheers.) My hon. and learned friend says that the WI
makes no change in the law, but merely makes that In
which has been prettied for a great number of year
He would not drew the house by quoting authorities, not
even the authority of the commission of 18.5 J, in support d
the doctrine that the dio.selution of marriage was unknownto
the law of England. He would merely observe that that
the constriction put upon the law by that commission. His
hen. and learned trend said the principle war not new, end
he instanced the fact that private bills authorising dime*
were pareel every session. Out did It follow from the prin-
ciple upon which divorce bills were pared that he
was Introducing a new low by this bill? Why,
there could not be a grosser fallacy. If he wee
to grant to his honourable and learned Mend that
Isis bill well following out parliamentary precedent, and
ho contended that thee was altogether a new law for thi
purpose. What did his bon. and learned friend propos!
Was it a mere continuance of the precedents upon which It
seated his case? Hitherto they had practically limited
divorce to the wealthy chumps of the community. Them we
one ease he believed on record of a man suing for dimes I
forml pauperis; but epeaking generally divorce had too
strictly limited to the highest and wealthiest claw ?We
what did his bon. sad learned friend propom? To pews
law under which divorce was to be made accessible to a
Wee that now the law of England? They bed it
the statute book an act presiding that members of 6
royal family should not marry without the me
sent of the sovereign. But that was not a re
ciple of law for the whole community—it appiii
to the royal family, and to them alone. And this cede d
laws about which his hon. nod learned friend spoke, md
tinder which he alleged the system of divorce was eslabildnd
as a principle of English law, was, he contended, as fondle
to the Britieh nation as a whole as wee the act mist*
royal marriages. The middle classes and the lower duos
cared no morn for that code of which No hon. and lard
friend spoke—knew ten more about it, than if it weree rod
establiehed for the benefit of the inhabitants of the plan
Jupiter. There were multitudes in thin country who dal
not even know of its existence—nay, there were may the
gymen who did not know of it, who had never herd de
Thane divorce bills limited to ono or two in a year and ew
fined to a particular claw, had no more effort upon thin"
lions of the population than if no such bill had ever red ,
He made this assertion broadly, for it was of vital
in the coneideration of this question. He coot
his hon. and learned friend's bill, partly by its enseteells
and more by its principle, carrying as it did divorce and
ckeees of the country who rune within its conditions, an
for all practical purposes novel And unprecedented. (Ho
hear.) His hon. and learned friend went at tome length bet
the argument of wriptund nutlike ity, and dealing as he el
with high spiritual matters, and calling upon the Meet.
peas a law declaring in what way the clergy were to le 2
reference to those matters, he wee not surprised that held
not in this respect Mllowed the example of tk
commissiouere of 18.53, who avoided the religious part el to
question But bill hon. and learned friend bad gene Met
into the theologieal argument, into which he (Mr. 6
isd
could not follow him without protesting against beitill
upon to themes the religious question in that bouts.
kiid
were not competent to do so. Hie hon. and kernel
rr
was not competent, and a fortiori he (Mr. Gladstone) wren
competent to deal with that pert of the case, and he thoS
it somewhat hard upon them that they should be
upon to pose the bill in such a form that they were not sr
petent to deal satisfactorily with the remota. for aud. egsa
it. The prieuee of the house could not allow time
wef
pertunity tar such a diecuseion, which was ont gaited
the closet of divines, or u synod of theologians. e
wen 6sr'
ever, compelled to touch upon it —unritirectorily as dr4
cesearily must be. Ilia hoe. and Mulled friend puLt voi
great exultation to what he seemed to think f
discrepancies between those who contended on the suttee!!
of Scripture that merrier was not dissoluble
.1
reference to the Greek word Iropvtia. be 7
that Mr. Kelly, a dietinguished divine, trefLi
one construction—that a friend of his, Mr.
derly, gave it another—and a third authority, a writer
the Quarterly, put upon the word a different cowhide!
constituting it to mean idubit7 or spoetecy. Not
writer in the Quarterly did not give any interpretation.
discussed
diecussed various views given by others, without offerallre
judgment in favour of the cue construction or the dicer
But what he (Mr. Gladstone) wanted to point out was Ids'
his bon. and learned friend quoted these three seerelL.
elneetkess, as if they had been destructive of mei ls_ti
whereas, so fir from their being opposed, they 4_gm
we the one essential point—that was whether t0.,7:4
of
inception in St. Matthew relerred to a particular T.,
the Jews, which was transitory in its character, and
being so, did not apply to Christians. That was the slw.
the essential point, and in that respect be (Mr. Glads!_!!
contended all the three constructions agreed. If they
pasted It to mean Idolatry, or &poem', or adulteryi,,:oriii
these will a Maly Pincer OW "I

eel Ih• Were bed milli, Iwo of doir mos '
W Miabirree eamentelW of the word w sped wog 1
oletwall, it was owed, of kW mode ems/woods with the i
lewd the Jews, but had so boring upon Christian.. But •
when kis ban. end hens/ hind talked of dierrepant•ies ,
Winn them whir held that the lot litwtrrpprttism of tat I
Imo w. that white mode merrier briii he I
sit him te cemaider the dieeessiume batons thin who sup ,
peeled the enateary view. Han woe • bill yealbssing le red I
en the authority al amtpure. Tete liwaigodsoms MI
'pekoe to hem of It, his how.
_end hem. Bleed the Attar.
ney-Ormand and the bow. member fee Ilerdsedeldre. The
has. moat. for.Hertstuemited his argeissftt en the vine in
the bth of Matthew; but the Atrantspeinaral threw that
TIM overboard aluitetber. His boo. and learned friend
used words to remarkable that be must guide them :
l• The argumeat mu, that as the easoption in St. Matthew
was not found in St. Meek, or is St. Luke, that therefore the
Me is Sr. Mink mid St. Luke be taken to be the binding
rule. But it never Seamed to strike thecae who advanced this
argareset that the remonable dedoetion way thet our
Saviour, in addreosieg those who were conversant with and
were bound by the Jewish law, thuueht it rapid-ite is one
fteee to my fist he excepted the epee wition w.xe provided
he
by the Jewieh law, but thought it unnocessary in soother
iftes to introduce the exceptional case, hemmer adultery in
is Jewish law we, not • eve.) for divorce, but was
=ldea le etinktil psidgtment. Our Saviour wee con-
es*. dose thlop which were divorces among the
Setiftsiftli adniefty was net a case ter divorce according
Y As haft* law bet for criminal punishment.'
The heastsamkge kw Mertihrildre maid, on the contrary,
thalami's*, is IL Matthew didasnstitute • teal exception,
seid *A the sdelsoy osolissol Is the eons did constitute
ftweftli fir Modem, appliode to us for • pnredent, but
debessol ismsed Alsagggruggona in Sat cootradietion to
ask Mow the oleo eorbssed, ad endeavoured to show
Wel beeelf est Wee ssq.borfog oo the quottion, because
Illowsossor 1161111v:seilleltery seennting to the law of
Iftelftile we set 4but by rsp.tal puniettment. So
MA foe do barmy le saiptural interpretation of the
fair ramie ohs Wen vtured to speak in support of
de woe we to be dissembled dim much diversity of
aphis peeelled es to the Me eenetrinalori of Seripture
aelieldegspatbis quad= Se= thought thoprohiboioo of
dire es—that was divorce =vying with it the power of re-
astedift-t-orea absolute ; earn considered there was • w-
ithin in Ikripture for vesuirriage after divorce in the ease
et eiislikety alms, bat limited to the innocent man, and
net estandsd to the forwent Immo. That he believed was
as not omeisst
_asides is the elsoch after the doctrine of
isdheelebilk. There were ethers who went further than
thie, and etne the eat et where to both the innocent
Eat and the iillseed MOM. Again, there were mate
orbs, el kelptetel Illelmilty, gave the liberty
of eftftftlft lithoth partite ober divorce fur adultrry. There
we sewer body of pereatim—cord this was the view adopted
ft Ifth beet& do—who gave It to both parties, whether
Lessot temirstilty, provided there was no intermarrisge be-
tween the ty partim. There wee a sixth poesy that per-
=Mg Ifternianiages..• seventh that etnuidered the
Sedelese pooled liberty of dn.= and re-marriage in ruse
of entry, and she is owe of desertion. Uot the great
=111:41=1; biSi,:n7turetht• Z. hl'ilt given
"theism
kerbsll dillephel NMI advocates. He ditl.not soy they
wee NI, ti Mon sopywid by sound argument ; bat the
dare 11111 ens that it agreed with neither of the
aftes. Q.ere hew, an/ • WO.) There wee, he believed, a
Win awsipet awls sehtious people that our marriage
law ea ems tee tight; int by relaxing it in the manner
lee mod they MOM melte itsquars intik licriptnre ; and
thetted pie send be estellimbed it was ha thet it would
be einerinive ergemeent dm the M. But se sae could show
het it viewed with Scripts* by any eseereetke that
meld be pee upon it. Whet did the WI de? It re-
lieved-1s moral go 'peak el It, he werrook though
the mild nee mew Wm feehdal It pee relief
le Ike Well le ere of the weewe's adultery,
Ad it we FMK set O sae of the owes ethiltery, but of
lbe moit's Wiwi year wry rare sad =altar eirenm-
ftweee, (Sew, Imo.) IA Ohm take the authority of
Selptete to eves la that hem. The Attorney-General
hod inked thew to *wee hie rosetruetion upon the con-
etheme of 17.000 elergysers. Let them see how his tern.
eel breed Mead' • weeteween *Prod nub his hill. Hie
bon. and boast friend threw emir the yens in Be. Mat-
thew, but head moiler he ids puree— that in which our
Lad NW, "They tenth shall be ter Seek, whereupon they
one se lame tire* bet ass Ma." And his bun. and
breed Heel aid that by the feet of adultery the bond wee
beehei. Wee that the wow ef tie ta. vipture ? No. it was
ea infiltory moss pat ea the wards by hie hon. and leaned
kined—e aestruedas pot ides thou {Artist. by Archbishop
Cirmirjimil which bad hos to them an advocate, bat Which
use nom= se did
by soy weight of authority, And whirl it
war against there whet would promo ups
blo hoe rod hood friend for farther cheerio in the law of
Ode bill pont It was • two ry arbltro role,
= if
am the maims that the bond of marriage watt so
dog by adultery that it existed no longer. Them were
many mesas far mom to al to the greet obliga-
ti= ef marriage, se disease, idiocy. crime invodetag
hapelanowat for Ms, and which, if the le and were dmaakilbi
ogle Its weed as • mason for divot,. but that was not
whet he would dwell upon at pee.ent. His hon. and leatmed
fried mid by theism of the adultery air userristre bood was
deanyed, and then he &eked the how. in pam • bill under
whisk shrikes Opt of every twenty wlelterere in the laud
world be covered with ptrfect immunity. mew, bear.)
The emarmoss majority of adultetke were admiewhe of men ; '
end laving isms that am adultery destroyed the merriage '
WA his hire. sad loosed friend itumedield, iftftemded •
Mews te diellft* aft= entwifthrths of the tospritimem be
W direct (Mew hew.) His bon. and Owed fnend
ornamossi at easeddle oohs upon his was bin—(- hear"
all iahhter)—dabsjewelled le new. &wiper* that mare
lestellii eel emit oe odolasy, and sob proceeded to
g. teempeleatileelew whet seenllwg to his ova
Is similar eel of tweelywees We paths wen no
elsd. Mier, beer) barb or the nob is which
Om bed by Attornay-Ciammal• and la which
the bows to memo in user camlidiscia so implicit
CIE le ant their conetruction on the enneeiene eV PI
testi,
, eta, If theT say it hi reintrary to their vows,
OW le boob told to go and obey. (Hear. beer.)
Nail: IMO Weft Efteetinge wee dentroyel moo f tete by
eon maw ; bow they could say to the wife,
Mrs Weeeerial le le mated to your adulteroue husband.
liettlineteellftheitmatid you to live with him." There was
Illeelleepee Mess we =de of rousetruire.; Scripture and
liehillioriamett—tbat he (Mr. Gladstone) did ant
doe WOO Ilailliftg upon any arguinent, ingenious ur not
helmlght tmeatruct from any V.V. The lights of
tessedisef aah.joity, the lire
of those orbs fti•
ellerillifteeildwil, hod immense weight, in hi. AIM
bistros eel= of scripture] authority. The
es/ honed sember for Dundalk had gives lie esw
rig
We
dee scriptural authority, which to wee .11.
WS lle weer (though he had not, as his Dorm*
ad Mewl Shed the Attontey.Genersl hod en
taffiebeelehell cif Trent. (0 Hear, hear," and lits.,
... ..... =in pint in the ease, they bad
etbishon. and leveed friend the Attorney-
Se woe • ho-t in himself. ("Hear," and
=Uwe who pnived the lax interpretations from
eel= wares 01' St. Matthew, the Attorney-Geneval
IfteWasedenra. He (Mt. Glodstone) would however ven-
ts tepid oat this : that if they took the text of St. Mat-
thew se giving a limnse of marriage after adultery, they
Wlinttbew in ronfliet on the point with the other
ad IS. Paul. The Gospel of Sr. Matthew was
Matitelhe Wow, sad probably in Hebrew ; the Gospels
d and IL Luke were written for fereigners and
Moron wee too mum for raying that the Gospel of
or known to the Otetiloo, and yet according to
allibleadoetrise of the hen. member for Hertford, this
wiellial Weil point in the Chri.tien law of marriage
WINS night bedienilved for adoltery— a Moe important
sew le ehe tepplleabon of Chrioisnity into the di...rdrtrd
rtZtf la* ulna the reel dione of the se= was most
as boil liners' from them for many generstions
Wafter pedal/4 ft ftes—hat on the undemanding of '
le Aftempeweed • he 11. Mark that it woe not own-
gfteg lift banns
ity adireowd the Jew., who punished
k whielly, they IS, Matthew in herminy with St.
$0 ad St. Luke
_who eibeeed the Gentile, and for
Months law. as ad ho the lon, would bare had no ,
=Thu Ember for Herta mid Mot the punishment '
or we Witted by the Isola law except the
=few wee dbievered in floosie &bete. Tho hon.
amber wee the lest that had ask eat discovery.
If be would bet to the ehaprer of Doolooomory Outshine
Wm ababojt I. wood re that Met podsinaset of death
we le he iwewel ea lheloorwiwata we merely of a married
Pima, le et two wow whit wee Winded. Ilittory, hitt*
dod ffeafewl, owl We primitive thiligely teetimony of the
Cftftlftheftweh, war vital in thin cow H. therefore humbly
=did tlds as Me trus conoraceiss ef the verse of St.
Our Leal war frisking te Ille Jet., end as the
Jim% law provided! We pesfohowet et death in case of
dye it am bopeeetble the one could new
li immenimps deeleg the Mb of the prim I
:Ili m. wiped to /Mem be made this preyselliss
,---,, Sat fee the lbw 300 yews we had ad $
NM* wilily al Memo with re-vastsikft• for soy=
itowww Th ef e wed 11 the early shoe! was to
i promo to ago, to on awe wheievw. Ili
wo *rotten all the earl writers. so oar WA WOW
=Goa wawa ; they had the Ow Of We emit;
die Cleillea ode sad the efeelelle afar. The
tpeelelle emenhebbi wee the kw ef Me tier* WI If •
alb owl ofirry goer , ow wow • elle
ffilVier Itiraellay bl him le Depended hen the ebiesb.
?Ire sue Ileeemplos Is the writers of tbs tidy deo*
Wik_ de seposall as opinion shirk wee tbm but alga
7.at baby that the loneent Itsdrodubsem with wee
.."70.4ernti'matIste bc=l le ',warty. Mier
tr!reo•• NA la the of le=lwbr MM
tow Olt the lessone Weida eta Wet dlvereel 117dal.
Vi Noway. Who the only Chrielins we to
4% remllipomoll misty mew** wee held to be
_ ;bib *On air Weed with the Waft wdely
:1 1.1 nosh SW a ere& nisei
•_"' .• bath 411 islasedayws of Chrlibielly—eat.
et
w
...es W Met he
a/touted to hewer lb Wee.
" ed the COMO' wee the nee pewerfad-
-._ll"o.lef lee leeleret Usisebtedly in Ilte wee • sad
.... Issas bole wlth wend le welt Imo greseset' ?
!Wawa* la lie earl; Wile la the the WWI=
411=111P,.. ellehlhbal the Alban
el -lie Polled llowaat • lela=igigisis
hiale•kk es !.s. kresfin ; owl lie law NM
„az: Ow hollowlelft ef war*.
ilk es Wow" AM SW what Se orwallea awn
h A dhelobllty. Ad Wee
le Week rt. eel iteraei Mewl Sr
I be led espoused ea eawast el We

(Hr. Cledgestle) set having Heed la dale
ages—(laughter)—and 110 kit the mod:nest the more a.
awning from a oilman of such broad, straightforward view.
aughter) —els diameter. like that which was formerly de.
.alined as " readmit, aboortoistapies."—(laugtiter)— laid at
be was satilleit to take nab amoug the "rubtili.vinti deed,"
he aced tidy say thd le me poriod of his life wail he able to
WOO tie impriersewat be that art of sulitlety, but to
fast be whiek le we kr Wes tie three years most closely as-
aseiell whit Mt be. swe hand tried. (Laughtrr.)
boa. sad baud Mead MI won et the principles
se the Iseaddlett, ewe he lid reed • pump which the
hide aided as wowed Mnthe Ildreadie Leek
Set It was wet rata from the wok The Poketssitie
was the drat the
Wwelly opened the Ileathplen rLir divorce srholole, end he wee ewe that Asa the
hews found what as eitabli.hod on the Obeli( the
Reformed* Lego they would be coed am how ad-
mitted that it hie dews pruteetant principles; foe it mita
of dimes fer Ike seal: binds of offence. besides adultery,
mid as k that se=imerorte thee the bid of We
la ad bad although it% two puticulere
it wee baler; M It wit violate the principle
of equally baked the.d hat retained an ideality of
rights between thaw. gad INNIVOIT it treated ailelkeey ea a
capitol dims. Ile ham end hosed (timid wee damn of
basin 16 MI es ea pedant_ priaolphe et the BAK -
ram, id be bee get a me krortive Creamer
tech pd. New he led the add ter Lrah
who, though not without wee a
zed a die awn ; but that any opinion of Areh ena-
mor, lOW se it wee in diffieult amid iketestiag tier, was
to govern 'Ogler et this time at thy, was pe week= so
extra yet that It seals ant to be peered wit era His
bait. sod had hied had in his awed gives them a ninth
beatiOle—(langhter)—hehedlaid it down that bird h the
man QM gab hie trod it the received version—Quie)—
tat fat Herd is the new tabs did not exude the
tad **jailed.* dish 0.4 bee given hie • wq more, his
in ail lemma Mid we not swami la giving
Hem a aka beatitude, but he bed dm thew
a new odds of faith, for lo aid OM elms
tatialrint audios &II went together they well wet
be "wag. (few, best.) Now, whether his be.
sell leered kirwl we right ea not in obis that wbia as
the pretwerd eibedbee west together they *OM net be
wrong. the kW we that this wee a case in which the pro•
teateat churches had net dose together • not one. (1e Hear.
be awl leseghter.) His hon. and caned triad said that
by the law tithe earth of England until the Nth eastury
martisge ems able ; but he (Sir. Oladiffisee) did not
know ea who aillwrity that sietuoption was founded.
Hie be.. NW boast Mall nil that until the
OP Polkualie ha the lea seamy, and all through
the wigs et Ithelath. neeriese wee addable
by the seeledeslied mud ; the it that wwe so
it deterwid the[ adder of the ikeemstioa; but the
Rot eedie tag= " never wankel the swami,/ et law,
and It wee a del point for hi. law awl Mead Mead to
show that Meares wee a great protestant gelled* at the law
of Ilaglord la the tirme of Elisidietit. He lielieglit forward
in proof el JO • how Salkeld, in which it was said
that the amen were divorces i vincule
astrkwail," end thwelbee I wee to he laded that there
were Wirer "1 viwabdirkeril" before thelleforination ;

but he (Mr. Giedeleme) weld meet that lute and random
words Wm time. usempumled by no reference to any autho-
rity. ammi imply pout em and without value. On the
contrary, be wild am ert the the practice In the time of
Elimbeth did mot rummies dune at all, and of that be
would gin a remarkable sod besatrovertibie evidence. He
was about to quote true • book written by Mr. Francis
Clarke, in 1596, a gentleman who wee the senior proctor in
Doctors' Common,, who wee brought up in the study of the
ecclesiastical law from his youth, mid who had practised it
be 36 years. He hoped that it would be admitted
that this wee • pretty good witness 14 tha practice
in the time of Elisabeth, fur his etrrience ettended from
IMO to 15911, one year before the canon t 4 Arebbishop Whit-
gift, since when It wee admitted that there had been no
divorce "a rineulo matrimenii" in the Eccleeiaatical Court.
What way said in that book t "Qootoria in Rh& Quod
emate tangsates Matrimoniuni (4 Si Maritua, et Si Mutter)
&farm in curb& in eladent specideatis •gendum ere in canal
divortii rive mparationis r thoro et men.), Mama de jure
OSSOeiee legit& mem rogni in Into parte snitch:4r, nee
lice venom& in his earibus—re, er ropier edulterieni
nee propter &relate., divortiatts out mparstie, ad Neuters
contort. neptire viventibus prinribus maritio Tel coejugi.
bus, quilt vincuitun matrinionii erne' ',fermi nee poem
ab bowies diseolai Mai motto natutali— (cheers)— in
cosset aententia in his ,asibus lab/ traitor her
detour diet& N. et (scilicet parte* Man qui
cupeunt divortium rations adulterii, ti mune fait in-
etituti propter adulterant, vet ratio& srtithe elle-
gates et probate-) ' • rhino, UMW, Se mutt
eobabitationeet orequionimeonjugslium seepeturioneramic et
qtrusque dutcrint inri,rm reeonctliandue et SOU aliter suave
alio ntodoarpouratue et di vortianstwe (*moque on. admit-
titer ornittiturP hoe verbose diratiaree). &dent Atom judices
&deer ad evitardea secandas tens semis. lima& priori-
bus omjegibus (good set edmodem cemainais), expresti inhi-
bre permute sewer, se convoleat ad alia vita demote
tegument". run Utensil eme et tut, gent' Impel, nisi fuarint
recoseillati, iseaesat. Et quoties do rquanindi nuptiis re•
coedit mere summit Committer& Itords in Canals Hoer-
siestkii eel mum Judicibtm 'even-tide/4hr Cantuarter&
Arebieplempi qurrelatur, delinquentee in hi. web&
punier& et ceretruntur argue .b hojeommli trundle nape&
(see prim eamanbiis adulteries) diratiantur et toparanter."
(Hear, bear.) He would ',stun to my that there never woe
more clear or convincing testimony on any point than tr..
So pouch fir the epirit of the Rath& Reformation and the
metric. of the reign of Elitabetb with regard In
divorce. In later time, there we. not no much
stittnera in this reopen, fir in bad time. was made a bed
butoutio n. tutu( which the bithnpa it the thumb fought
stoutly, but in vain ; and at lenrth n bill we. brought in, in
Lord 1)e Reis eue, a creature of Charlet 11., and the
Howe of Lords threnaerd the bill under the unennititutional

difficulty of the perenal peewees of the governors. Since
than the pretties had spnad, though, he wee glad to think,
but slowly; far le Andy believed that there had not been a
marked tandaney shown in the practice to eprend widely.
It appeared by • tabular statement which ha had
before him that in the reign of George 111., from
the year 1760 to 1799 the somber of divorceei was 96 ; the
ant 31 yeses dome to 1930 showed: divoreee ; and from
that time down to 1866 the number wee 99. If it was con-
sidered how great had bees the extension of the wealthy clan
in thin money to which alone divorce woe a pweihility. it
most lea matter of eagratulation that the practice had
*read no slowly. Although he hod treepamed so largely on
tle patience of the boil.. h. must yet say a few words on the
religious Fart of the question and something on the varied
etre,. which were likely to be the result of thin
measure. He felt, with Ida noble friend the member
fee Leieesternhire, the Melanie and Injustice which would Le
indicted on the clergy if this bill pained as it stood. He con-
ferred that he did not believe that the bowie would back the
Attorney-Generel in this deaden of compelling the clergy
to do an act amend which their conscience. sod their prin-
ciple* nrolted ; Lut if the boo.. should back the Attorney-
General in thus compelling the clergy to the
.pereirmanoe of
• duty against s int they oon.ciervioualy end earneetly pm-
temeel, why then farewell to all peace within the church;
nod hie noble sod kernel friend who came before
the house muffin! jog hie glib doctrine of obedience
to the law, would have done more to destroy the onion of the
chord, than if hr hod voted with the hon. member for Mg-
field on every division againd every rrgium donum, or every
grant fir mialaters' money. He profaned wean seek a
limitation of conscience, and be would snort that if they end
the laity were to have conscience% they most look on the
church as being governed by nomething more Christian than
that house. He protested against a doctrine so degrading se
that the religion they profeased, in its spiritual matters
and in the handling of in groat mysterie., was to be rut and
carved at the vecch and pleasure of his noble and learned
friend or of any majority of that bores whatever. It could
not be expected that the law of relgion would be reelected in
the country mike. it was respected Ly the house itself ; and
he would boldly ask if it woo not ineomident with the
reelect and reverence which every man must feel nese due to
the revelation of God, th,t the will of a body so con-
e/Rated IA that house should be the rile drterminatton of all
religious and spiritual matter. We might well take a
Mein from heathenism in this respect ; for so great
was the desire to secure en much se was pos-
sible the raped of the people for religion, and to
Madan these of the belief that it wan • men creation
of .tale-craft, that all memo were need to keep up • notion
of diem revelation, and the divine Men were separated
from the political offices in the state, because It wog known
that it would be detrimental to ?elision, that its manna
&add be regulated like the (concerns of earth, by randy
metier laws. He did not deny the high functions of
the House of Commons. That house might be •
masinting pony to, and add ice authority to
Whitlow regulation was into duosd into the noll•
plen el the seats ; but neither the principles of law or re-
Wee permitted them todo anything in the way of remodel-
Ibist spiritual question.. One word on the great meld
which was involved in this measure. He must my
1117sheileved that the bill committed a fatal error in the
Wads which it shaped and directed it. enanmentn. But
etc., 'nor of all was in its priociple, and the oiled
It meat he land it irouLi have on the people of
Tared. lio did set my whether the effect would be
slow or sepia. bed_ that it might be slow.
He did not matillirl.lllll i Mm atruilkariel of the Pieta-
ten of hie lea. awl hood Mond when be said, " Mama
tetra muss issidwr it oohs r but it had occurred to hire
that it wephile witer M the hot ebbe of society with regard
is dimes belb in *awe and essetry. (Laughter.) Ifs
weed lint be iii met inks a megSs.view of the condition
slab tenany whit mord to the clan of dangerous
min 7b isle of reigitutios hardly be sr ote,. in
war taw,
_• owl in mrsded ensues evil of that class-
-111111111111/, Imendlewees before nsarrisge, It was so preva-
lent Me le Ma and country as to humble tts to the dud
elm we ouniisni with how little orientate our Christian
eilleptime were elmented. But there wee a bright side of
the findha; IN m regarded the lower elm. in Mb &wintry,
osirsidally with toped to those wbo living out of London
were moved from temptation, the observance of the mar-
eler tie a faithful in the highest degree. If it was Mee
Set them wee a deplorable laxity of chastity before
coupled with @triremes after marriage, that
MUrailitTa which retired explanation, mid an explanation
emir*. he lamed the known indieselohility of marriage
yrbrsf Marl—andel-cry man and
wenn in and still more In Ireland, who entered
Ye in mm edmin know that they were entering into
a th eel an mcgnltat was indissoluble. We had the
wilinrlty of ; wo hod the authority of
Milk lobo data the doctrine of the indissolubility of
malinporill dates, who held that there wee nothing so
innonoon es le Whig a min sad wawa tats vox Ulm

lot anion vela total onion. In this eatantry tut ono. I
bat been total, the marriage sun was a total gad skein° I
elate—you entered en a new elate and were bound by i
all its reletioes and obligations ; and now you were going to I
Maim the gulf which Let hitherto Teen considenal itiathethie
Lt.and yen were going to y to a woman " 1,41 dish
' ile m
rl able ; you shall be divorced ; and nieLreg shell
you to the man apinvt whom you bare
ellethd; you may offend again; but your sin Audi be
unpudona.de by him e lien *Lan you tied offended,
though with his wb..hi heart and soul he reign have
dashed to &wen you." Them might perbspit be mime
death as reseeded the principle el shutting the dour
pooltmo, but there could be so doubt ea to the
=of the ptineiple on which the. mania', law of
tree founder'. The indissolubility of English mar-
usgs
woo ea idea that hod never been shaken in the English •
mind; ad there never no. en Englishman of the lower or •
middle elms who had known or newsiest] wirriege ea die- •
seal& let the house then take care how they damaged
the character of their countrymen. They knew what iicew •
an dwelt in the Englishman ; but there was one Chnitea
metnthat which had dwelt within him eine° England wee
Engle d, and that wan the preservation of the marriage tie;
Had there been eutlieient reason given for shaking :hem feel-
ing"? (Hier, heard Wei it certain that when one. they were
shaken they would settle down again in the limits keyed for
them by act of parliament ? You were introducing a eyeless
which won perfectly novel to the great man of your country-
men, and which was known in no other country. The great
Amin fichavoni stated that at the Reformative all protertant
states had changed the law of marriage; but for 200 years
after that there had been no change, became the ne
former, led foundeel themselves on the dear view end
memo of the scripture., and had limited thethelvm to cane
of divorce v Rh remarriage fir adultery and desertion, for it
WY the general opine.* of the reformers that demotion as
well as adultery was a ground of divorce ; and this showed
the arbiter), principle of the plan they were now called on to
adopt, which he believed was the first instalment of many
theme, the Gist stage of a road of which they knew nothing
cosset thee it wee different to that which our fore-
fathers bode, and which removed no from that path in which
Chrlithmit7 bad plead us. Again repewiug hie Writhe
fur the were eith which the how* had heard him, he
would cowhide hy deelaring that he would reno this mea-
sure, berm= he believed it use not only retrograde in its
character but full of dangerous insurgences to our mein
system ; doubtful itit et-gaoled the conetruition of ecriptura,
became it woe undoing what Chrinianity had dune for us,
and bringing ns into • state of laxity with regard to marriage
which Chrinisetity did not recognise; ho would nein it
because it was desired by the people of this country—
(bear, bear)—he objected to it because the proposal of his
Lon, and learned fneod was unjust and harsh Mends the
ministers of religion; its objected to it also on the other
grounds which he had stated ; and lastly, because it Wild
premed upon the huuse at a lime when It was impemittle to
afford it adequate considertition, end en far WI in him for he
would not tie reeponsible for any pert of a measure which he
thought PO dangerous to the highest interests of the country.
Sir G. GREY, after expressing his admiration of the
ipeeeh of the right hen. gentleman, and his wish that it had
been delivered on the previous evening, declann his intention
of not entering largely on the scriptural pert of the
question, believing, a Le did, that exercitatioas on
doubtful parages of scripture tended rather to weaken
than to eetabiish the authority of the scriptures,
• He had considered the scriptural part of the quenion, and
had no hesitation in saying that no binding of inflexible rule
was laid down on the subject. Ile would, in the first place,
notice whet his right hon. friend called the precipitate course
of legislation 012 this matter. leaned of the subject having
now been brought under the ronsideratim tit parietal:to for
the first time, it hail been frequently Mortared in ono branch
of the legislature, and commented on in various publications;
and be thought the time had 'rived when, a bill having
then sent down from the other home embodying the deli-
berate cum knows of that house, the omertunity should be
taken of effuetiog what he rensidered a pelt iniprovement of
the law. (Hear, hear.) Ile right hon. Mond bad isthmoid
that the country did nut understand the question, and that
he had morirod a petition from Cornwall founded on the
suppention that a law was about to be pined under
which divorces might be granted if people should quarrel.
(Laughter.)
Mr. GLADSTONE—It was not a petition.
Sir O. GREY—Thou it was • letter from some correspow
dent of the right bun. gentle:nee, who must have greatly in•
lightened him as to the facts of the ram. (Laugher.) If
the ei.rimpondente of hie right hoe. friend entertained these
atoned views, he should deeply hare regretted the carrying
of the prepention 'shah would have preiented the discus-
eine, which he trusted would dispel such an named Meehan.
(Hear.) He had lietaned to the greater part of the spereh of
he right hen. friend with the highest interne and admira-
tion, but with the wont unfeigned and urthotuadol ettonieh-
. meet. Hie right hie. friend treated the mermen as an in-
tended innovation on the law of England, never heard
of until the worst time—afilnned the iudiaaoluWity
of marriage, and coadrumed the bill as partial in its
°pennon. Now he was rather surprimed to bear each
arguments advanced by he right hon. friend. In the year
, 1850, owing to the complaint* which had been mado of
abeam and mandate connoted with the meting law end
. practice of granting diet-eves, a mission wean appointed by
. the crown, consisting of ',oilman of glint learning Auden-
. prince, to inquire into the law of divorce, and the monk lii
, which divorces amid he obtained. That ainimi-vion pro-
. caned on the notorious fact l hot divorces went soteinable—
, that the bier and prank*, of parliament senetiened divorces—
, and their duly wee to inquire and normat the seethed by
, which 'het end could be attained. 'Pie report of the. two.
, Mien was prevented in Mr, awl in Mit Liod Aberdeen's
. government, of which bit right. hon. friend was a thine-
! reined member, introduced a bill in the stal4eit. (Ileer.)
i That bill which was prevented to the Homo of Look by the
. then Lord Cluneollor was entitled, " A Bill to transfer the
, jurisdiction in matrimonial num' to the Court of Clenony
I and to establish a Court of Divorce." (Ike, hear.) That WI
. the reed a second tune and committed, and me abandoned
in the middle of July, not berates it was too late to proceed
'. with it, bit Mule the tenementary jurisdiction could net
be carried along with it. Thst bill was isimatind in tut orie-
-1 ciples and in its meet important provider with the bill now
. under discumint. (Cheers.) That bill propoed to ratablieth
, a court of divorce, and provided that certain bets being ens-
. birthed, the court should pronounce a divers declesing the
marriage to be diredved. (Cheers.) That wn prniselv
, what WWI done by the present bill. (Cheers.) A great deal
had been said et to the intolerable hardship which would In
, placed on the clergy in compelling them to marry divorced
pennon. Now, there was no inch elsem in the bill, and the
only ball at all relating to the subject was copied Iron that
introdund by Lod Aberdeen's government. (Chores.) Ile
was afraid the memory of hie right bun. friend was not so
• good as his, imagination. (Laughter) At that time none of
the scruples which he now felt could have weighed upon the
mind of Lis right hon. friend, or ho would not have consented
to the introduction of such a bill. His poling convictions
• mold only be of recent date, for he wee pulsating a Gonne
diametrically appetite to that which he took three years ago.
(Cheers.) De mending front the high theologind grounds which
had been taken, ho wished to ooneider the bill with reference
to the dictates of remota sod the nainiroteente of human en-
dety. (leer.) An attempt had leen mute to attach an ex-
, ermined importance to the meanie, and same hon. mete-
, Imre considered it a great innovation on the law of marriage
and divorce, and that divorces would be obtained in eases to
which they were nit now granted. The wade bad the
member for Lebeitershire (Lord John Mothers) took a moist
elaaleiWided view of the ease, threatening the country with till
the evils which had been introduced into France, and pointing
out the effect of the Prussian law of divorce, seeming that
the sae remits would follow in this country, forgetting
that the law of divorce under the present bill would be (WNW.
tially different. (Hear.) He right hon. friend led he-
-pugned the statement of his hen. and loaned friend (the
Attorney-General), that the object of the bill was to giVe a
len/derive form to what had been the practice of parliamen,
awl quoted a pump free the report of the toneuthionera,
stating that by the law of England the compact of marriage
woe indtholuble ; het he omitted to (junto the conclann of
the presage which stated that the actual dissolution of soil,
contract, when adultery was committed, was so eoneinant to
reason and religion. that where the general law had omitted
to give a remedy p aliment hod given ono by pawing a par-
ticular hew in favourof thee whit made out their i me. (Hese,
hen.) The 1,111•11I141019“, stated, that from 1701 to the
present time the legialature had constituted itself a court for
granting cheece it vincula nautrimonil. Lord Loughborough,
whom, regulations were referred to the other night, no doubt
laid down inlet rules to bind applying to parliament
fora remedy; but the Howes ofimlZela,ns ac ting judithily in lay-
ing down °eosin rules, gave silent sanction to midi pomad-
ing'. (Hear.) The noble lord (Lord J. Mennen) observed
that it was quite true that twit or three bills a year crept
through parliament. Crept through parliament I Why,
they laid peened through pardiainent with the concurrence
and assent of the noble lord, for he had made no oljeetion to
them. (Wear, hear.) Was not the noble lord aware that in
1840, on the motion of the present Secretary for the Colonies,
the house, adopting the course taken by the House of Lord*,
laid down certain rube for reptleting the proceedings with
regard to divorce ladle, and, like the upper house, thus is.
vied meth to seek a rented, which the general law did net
groat ? (Hear.) Rat more than that. Not very long ago a
stiodieg order we med. which required that at the New
reortest of every mon a divorce committee of nine
members should be &minted, and in permeate of that
order the meal notice- had appeared on the vote", and the
eemittes bad been regularly appanted 'maim by PC1‘.1.41
for the parrs* of granting proper facilities for the riming
of divorce bills and avoiding the sandal arising from the
repeated publiration of details which must be gone into
by some court before a diverse could I. obtained. (Heard
At the present moment there were at least four divorce Lille
on the table ; and if tho noble lord hail hitherto abstained 1
• from each bill. because he did not know they were
" though the house, ho now invited hie attention
to Um border that he might oppose them if he tholight 1
eye:l
pr_2pori;usr bear.) Those who end " no " to the present i
1111, :el wished to be consisteut, to oppee •
embodied the identical principle
ChZibl o
e dry me signed. (Hear, hear.) Then, with I
MINI MfilteMirimatbsther the course which hadboth so I
keg lama did not amount to • judicial pro- i
seeding, and It led act constituted keel( a COONt,•- I
Sir John Stridden end Dr. Loaltingtna, in their evidence, I
' Aged that the mane iimuneihy parliament asuousted to a I
'JMlktil proceeding, that ps,llemcnt had constituted itself a i
eimt, by which, on (retain beta being proved, it uniformly, I
es
a matter of mune awl a matter of right, granted relief to I
the Gaiters in the arm manner en relief was granted In other I
ea l& (Hear, bear.) But there was the authority of 1
the whole human race in opposition to the alleged indisan- •
lability of marriage. It had been mid that in 1
the Rom esthetic church marriage wa• indissoluble I
Now wee that so? The Council of Trent might, perhaps, ,

held meatlege to be tsdimolable r but the Row aotholice
had • convenient emote of dispensing will, leo dialtinee of
that church. There was a suprettre withanty, celled it di.-
penestlen—ea admiesion that it wee imp imible to mein-
tain the doetroie uoimpeired the, niarri ere woo helm-
soluble,.
_Meer, hear.) The question wee not whether
there should he a new law of divorce. The main principle of
the bill was not to sher the grounds or reams on which
divorce was grant. d, but to alter to. mow relive loch the
snit was to be brought, and to allow a woolen to one for •
divorce on the Freund 1.1 adultery mad dements. The effect
tithe alteration in the law would beta give to all Portia an
equal and cheaper remedy than at preys nt existed. It bad
been said that if this newsure should piss there would be
one hundredths:orecs where there were now only ten. Now, •
if there Wad anything in that ergotism', it only showed that'
there were ninety persona out of one hundred who were at
present uneLle to obtain relit f (liver, beer.) Having stated
thegeneral principle of the bill, he would just advert to coed
insets its, that which slloweil parties who Wall diVOlOl4 to
matey again alter divorce a viucule had been granted.
lie bed men mane petitions egeinst the bill as regarded sear
emindhent. As the quoin= lied been stated to the house Ly
who had spoken, it would name that the uniy de-
ed !orgy wee to be freed from the necessity of per-
isinting the inarriage recentnoy goer two persona, one of
when had been drowned wider this bill. They maid the
clergy objected to istrforou the 'teeing. ern umny of the
church over pentons whom they termed the guilty parties.
Now, that wee not the real objection that was made. The
objection was (minded on the indiesolubility of warriege.
They said in iffect that though en innocent husband had
wind the greittort wrong that could bo inflicted on
bin by his wife, yet 'mug a married man they were not
boned to neer:mire the Lee of the land in performing the
neeselage raveurony when the innocent hustmed or his wife
Wei married. The right hon. member fur Oafordshireebook
his bead and dimetited from that view, but there was
eat sib exponent elsewhere on deo subject, and be
had obtelmed from the journals of the House
of Lards the identical motion t,uhtuittd to them
embodying the views it the clergy on this subject,
and which was rejetted by a majority of 78 to 28. 'The
clause wee ea follows: " rrovided, nevertheless, that no
clergyman in holy orders in the church of England shall,
after the passing of this act, be liable to any censure in any
court emlesiaatical or civil, fee refusiog to perform the mar-
riage service over any penes or peisoms who, after being
married and divorced shall scut to be married again during
the lifetime of the hie:baud or wife from whom they have
been divorced nude? this act." Why it was clear that that
placed the innocent husbaud or wife under tho ban of the
church. Ile only wished to put this matter in its true
light. The imestion would have to be discussed when they
gut into committee, but he trusted they would not have to
decide it, hat that the letzten who took that view of the rase
would lied that their grourdw.untentible and that theywould
not present to the holier. SO extreme a demand a* that which
was submitted elsewhere. But let him say this bill impaled
no now obligati= whatever. In all the rimaw in which there
had been it divorce that obligetion of the clergy had existed
SO the fullest extent aa it would exist alter this bill wee
prod. It would be more open tin parties to obtain diverees,
sad therefore there would be prebehly more persons who,
having been diverted end wishing to contract a second mar-
riage, would prvecut theiuselves to have the ceremony per-
famed. It was only a question of degree, and not of prin.
ciple. Auy coo of these four preemie who had their divorce
bilk now before parliament, every one of which hills he bad
I nu doubt would become law in • 1,-w days, might west
himself, with another person with whom be wished
to mintract marriage. to the parish el who
would be obliged not by 'him Lill, but Ly the law
ea it at preeett mood, le perform the ceremony. lie
' gild nut with to say more. lie had only wished to bring back
the house to the region of common 'one, and to show that
the law, whin li had been tee:toned to be the Divine law of
Marriage wed divorue, wee a torte rblioll of the imagination.
lie hoped that the house and the reentry would be disabund
of theme iniscamouptimis with regard to this bill, which had
been no industrimuly oreulated, and that the home would
assent to the second reading of this hill. (Ileer.)
Lord LON' AINE end not ono tittle of the right hon &ma-
dman's speech hail touched Mr. Gladsome's argument. The
right hon. gentleman had deserted time with hypocrisy be-
cause they had passed private bah, for Memos without ques-
tion, and new oppomd this bill. It did net follow because
member all 'wed a private bill to perwithout oppeoing it that,
therefore, he wee a party to pivoting the bill. lksidec, the
right Mai. 'endwise was as writ aware so he Wes that thin.
lug only gave facilities of divorce to a chess, mid that the
great Lama of the English people would Le au incapable of
obtaining a Civioree atter this tall had punted as they were
now. As n-surdid the clergy i. must be recollected diet the
attention of the clergy had now been awakened fur the first
time to the test that adulterers would he enabled to marry.
The SOLICITUIt-OENERAL entirely agreed with Mr.
Glieletone that the diereses.n of the I,llgiula part of the
,luestion was eatery fit for an arena like that. and that It
was more fit for the closet of the divine, or the library of the
scholar. But the qui:mien boil bra discussed elsewhere, they
had hail the opinion of the heaile of the church on the itubjed,
and there wee sueleuldedly the weight of euthirity that the.
mar toe was disodunle; and the right hien gentles=
an u to allow that even lin the early ages of the
churcht s doctrine w. held. But undoubtMlly that duc•
trier at the present day was held by at least s great portion
of the churl,. Any prentinima who wished fir it might
find much valuable information in the report of the cote-
nant*. and the manteittee recommended the scluption of
the measure now under lit, coneideration of the house. But
atenueing that they eatetie.l theomelver that there wee
nollong contrary to rehire.n in the course they prepimed,
then eater, the preetiral queetion with teforenee to the deer
of the measure on the ml condition of the people, and cer-
tainly he wee rather surpristd st the not& lord the member
tor Lenesterehine who last night dr:wonted in tenon of notch
indignation at the Idea of intro hieing a change which, in-
tonate/ to lino, would produce ishnpat einem.] immorality.

woad be, to refuse to dissolve manias* in soy one. It
word work the leen e. it . if parties kuew they could not get
rid of:the tis it would wake them live together letter. It
was .ad the pence syn. ea was a blot and a mental. The
blot wee that it Involved the law for the rich and another
for the poor; but anises they corded the measure touch fur-
ther the blot would still remain. The scandal was the actin
for cram. eon. The objection to that action was that it gave
the huehand • money compensation for his injury. It ap-
pend, however, from the speech of the Att. nerGeneral,
that it was prepared to empower the court to inflict a Ins,
which might be given to the huebanel as cow
pensation. The scandsl, therefore, would still remain; i
j the only difference wool,' be the amount of tonipene
ethos, which, now decided by a jury the fittest ;
eribenal--wimid e Unsealed to the deththu :of a judge. i
lie Mewed that this hill had mated great shit in in the
••••Zia The Mot ',AI of the people felt Gut, although
Ws t not be a new law yet it was a law :whith was i
gels( to be brought within the mach uf the groat luau ft
the People, and they thought, whether tightly or wroogly,
that it would ban a tendency to shake the unceitv of the '
tearriege tic. What would be the met of the proceedings in ;
the new court no one cool tell, but the bowie might depend •
upon it that what had been called " the blot" wwilel ton-
Untie, end that the vane argument that Wise now used in
favour of bringing divorce within the reach of the 'nutmeats
would be applied hereafter in favour of bringing it within the
means of the poor. lie did not know what metier could be
flare ato that, for the expenee of obtaining a divoree at pre-
sent was the chief ground on which the bill woe defended.
It could not bo re:deeded that the bill was called
See by the rouatry, string that there had not
hem a single petition presented either in favour
of the bill or of any alteration of the peceent law. Tho right
hon. beronet the Secretary of State for the Homo Depart-
meat in referring to the report of the 001001.614012 on the sub-
ject remarked on the manner in which the commiseiner.
questioned a great civilian. In point it fact they never saw
his fere. (Laughter.) They did not examine a tingle wits
miss. 'Fishing to ease time tiny obtained the evidence taken
some time before by a committee of the House of Lords, and,
adopting it, printed it with their report. (Hear, hear.)
Some extreordinary etatements heel beta made that night
with regard to the =inept, bensioth abroad on the subject of
Ilia bill. Time would have removed them ; where.. if the
bill were pawed now, it would be passed is oppoeitieu to the
feelings of the van majority of the people. (flew.) He did not
believe the people of this country were unreasonable. He
thought that it the arguments used in favour of tho bill were
right, and if the people bad time to consider them they
would be asenting poetic.; but, on the other Land, he be-
lieved that it the bill pass d the opinion would Le universal
that it had been forced through the house without the re-
pretentatives of the people having had an opportun:ty of
commuuicating with their constituent.. (Hear, hear.) In
his opinion it Could have been wiser for the government not
to have attempted legislation till the new Probate Court was
in good working condition, instead of burying on a bill,
which had a tendency to multiply divorces to an extent
which, in his opinion, would be prejudicial to tho best in-
heres of society. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. WALPOLE said as one of the commintioners who
signed the report on which this bill was said to be founded,
ho trusted the hors would allow hint to state the reasons why
he should support it. He could not help feeling, especially
after the speech which the just been delivered, that this
measure had been, as the Attorney-General said, not only
much nthunderstood, but also touch tuieinterpreteL
(Hear, hear.) His right Lon. friend (Mr. Hettley', admitted
that be believed that had the measure been longer before the
country, the country would have tempted it as a good set-
tlement of the quotient. ("No," from Mr. Henley.) Hie
tight hon. friend said he believed that if the menure had
been longer before the house [Mr. Motley " And was
right."] (hear, Lev)—the people would have assented to
it. Would it out, then, have Lennie those who took such
an interest in the lee-mien to nett-net the people as to the
real nature of the bill ? (Hear.) But that that bed not been
done was palpable from one of the letters read that night by
his right hon. friend the member fortt,o University of Oxford,
showing that the people of the parish referred to were under
the bnpreseion that under this bill any enure between
'unhand and wife might teed to a diemlution of e.
(Hear, hear.) Moreover, had a stranger, ignoraut of the
nee, eon, into the home that evening and beard to the
splendid language in which this bill led been denounned and
condemued by his right hen. friend, he might hero gone
away with an impanel, n that unnedninge fatuity had taken
ponessien of parliament—(bear, heer)—that II e emceed
relations of marriage were about to he broken; that they were
abort to introduce insecurity into English homes ; that the
petition of the woman, whets had been Tithed by the inane
ence of Clint-Lenity, wee now about to be lowered, and that
the morals of the money were likely to be
degraded by the passing of a measure facili-
tating the granting of divinue, ununetioned by
remelt mad re:tgiou. But if the same stranger hod waited
until the fleet bleeds of that etagnitice et eloquesseehed paned
sway; if be had had time to noel his thoughts, and had
appealed to some peen of sober judgment sue of menet/
knosikelge to tell him the real elate of the law as it sac, and
of the law as it would be, he would have levet lino the rela-
tions of nuuriage were in 110 degree banned or unaided
by this tweeze—(. hen.); he would havo been told that
the woman was not placed in a degraded posit ion as revered
with the position which she had hitherto I .11.1.1—(hear,
beer) ho would he been told that the nuptial bond
wee not to bo dissolved for any other cause than
that fur which it wax dissoluble now; he would have
been informed that the sole objdrt of the hill was
to substitute our good judicial tribunal ftr three
had once. (Hear, beer.) In our of which the emending.
trete admitted to be a scandal and deign,. to the country,
in another of which for the ume ennui the mart had to go
though the came proof, while in the third there was intro-
duced the ronnstrous aheurdity of the legislature of the
reentry trying a question which especially required judicial
Weight, judicial habits, to -':eo patience, sod judicial it,.
_ • •

He sp___,. , ,,...r, jumeiel hubite, judicial liatienie, and' ua,,— in
oke as it the eueirsure would thuds° the framework of partielity. (Chet roe.) By the bill and by the Lew a. it Mood
eerfely ; and he band hoe opinion on the result of tin brill- there 111-10 two kindle of divorce, the temporary divorce and
tating of divorces in Germany by the law of that country, the permanent ono: the one being called in the bill "jodicial
The noble lord termed to the speech of Baron Gerber:le show- aseperetioc," and by the prevent law diver.. a mese& et
dog the frupteney of divorce in Prelude; but be did them, the other bring the eivoree which dieesived t,e mar-
not tell than that In l'rnesis divers* was allowed Tinge bond. The groonds of these two kinds of divorces
for a greet number of eau.% while by this bill the would be the same under this bill that they were Rt present ;
right of divot,* was unlined to caaea of adultery. and as to divorce a ;incubi matrimonii, it would be obtain-
'l hey had, however, an elluetrstion nearer Lune. much more able—and this elieuld he known from one end of the country
%sweets—Hutt of Scotland, when the law of divorce went t. the other—by the husband for adultery, and adultery
much farther than was propemed by thin bill, although stop- only, and it wan only to be, punted to the wife to a very
ping alert ot them of Emus. In Feettleud, diroree war aggravated cam of adultery on Um part tithe husband. The
allowed in cases of adultery or continuous desertion ; and It bill and the law were concurrent an to the grounds on which
did not appear that this famlity produeed those frightful divorce wee to be edloweel; and heput it to the house whether
coneesquentos when were epprehmeiled by the opponents of Humeral anything to justify the prediction that the bill if
the bill ; nor were all the pomple running after divorces. It parsed would leadtothe meet profligate and dissolute manners,
appeared that it five yews there were outs ninety, dye emu, (Hear, beer.) The objectione to the hill cone time ?teenist
although the expense wan only Wee. u 201. and 301.; and be oppoite queries, and tenth I to the meet opposite results.
bid yet to learn that the people, were coon immoral then One objeetion was, that the bill went much too far; another
theme of this country. Looking at the matter in a practical was, that it did not go far enough. According to one argn-
point of view, the questieu far the house was who- rune there ought to Le no divorce at ell, it hung coutended
then the pereent state was desirable or not— that marriage was in all elites indissoluble • according to an-
whether they were prepared to stay where they were, other argument, they ought to extend, if' not the enures, at
to retrograde, or to go forward. They who contended lent the rennehee, and were bound to give the women the
lout memoirs. was indissoluble could nut convect to 4 I gin- mime relief a. was extended to the man. Him right hon.
Wive divorce; for if to great it at all was contrary to the friend (Mr. Gledetone), in the counts" of his splendid- speech
luau' tow, they would never consent to pr a divorce Lill. of their evening, spolee of the corn option of nommen to which
Would they go back, and abolish divorce altogether, or retain the bill would led. He must remind the right bon. gentle-
thu present late, whet gave a remedy to the nab but not to man of his own etateneent, shat nireteen-twenties he of the
the peel' It wee objeeted that eke new court would be very adulteries committed were adulteries committed by the
expensive, that it would lead to all 'torte of collusion, and that husband ; so that if, in accordance with Lis argument,
dissolutions of marriage would Le very treqeent. It was true tee peat, of ebteining a divorce were extended to the wife
the bell did not goes for 1e bring divorce am low as it might; equally with the husband, the minder of divorces would be
what it did accomplish was to substitute a judicial legal inereued twenty-fold. As regarded the question whether
tribunal for an unmet°u+ extrownlinary legislative one. As marriage was dissoluble or not, he wished to be as (lain and
it mood the bill "relit sufficiently far, for it was easier to ex- frank as possible. He kept steadily in view the dietieeden
tend the provisions of such a meneum than to abridge them. between scriptural allowance of divorce on any ground and
Ile mold net colt:wide in the extrevageut ideos of the ex- aniptural perneirion of nuarriage. The two thing* were
pone. entertained by some member., bat hr le hewed the bill totally dice Met. l' ASS ribald to enter into • religious aro-
would elbul s mil twee extensive remedy than the pre- bent on this subject, but he was convinced that on religionue
Rent at en expmee not toe great. If that were so, what wee grounds marriage wan indimoluble except for adultery,
the red olecenen to the second reeding? As it WAS said, As regarded the pleseges in 'Matthew and Mark, the view
thee wee it coercive mestere; but rte the Home Secretary heel wheel' he melt was Hitt which had been taken by the vast
remarked, it made no change in the low eels regard to the majority of divines both in past ages, and recently. On
clergy, but left them in exactly Ibe same position as they snot • subject he would net state his own opinion, whirls of
were at prevent. The clergy Led no come right to enure" lied no weight, but would quote that of Dr,
complain of than bill then of the eyelet. which had Munn:end, one of the taut jell( bum and sterling
seised for the legit one hundred and fifty yowl. nub? of oar divines. The right honoursblo gentleman thee
these cireurneesnonc, it @motored to him that the bill cited the opinion of Or. Ilmeamond, to the rtfret that when
(muppving always a persoun had matiefied himself there was one, that when two of the Evangeline made a general adme-
n° vieleshon of religion in its adoption) was one for which naont, and a third made a statement with an exception, the
they had eminence grotende if liquehetion Wald, Nimble ; and exception was to betaken from the third evangelist, end lin-
iegi4.ri.,u was desirable, for the ememest elude of things could ported into the general statement of the other two,
not end ought not to exist. That was the view which he (the right tom. gentleman) took
ler. HENLEY said the hon. gentleman the Secretary of upon this subject; and he would *.miter it Ly ore or two
81ste fur the Howe Depertenent lied made R mpeech exceed- illustrations. Suppose there wars three jurists 'renew upon
clever as a pereonel 'weer to that of the tight hon. the annual law of this country, and Suppose two of them
the member I. the Univenity of Oxford, but Le were to ~,y, "Thu law does not allow yen to kill." Sup-
with
singular Uranus avoided any attempt to mower peso., tot, that the third raid, "The law does not allow
kis memento, and had omitted any reference to the state- you to kill, except in self defence—would not the law, as,
~...
owe (shell in candour Red Menem he ought to have declared by the two first, he explained by importing into it
neeicel) of the right hon. gentleman, that it was only within the quelitication expreamd by the third. (Hear, hear.) Or,
the lam two menthe he had turned his attention to the sub- again, *appose the two were to Rey, " You shall not swear,"
jet. The ruin hon. gentleman mid he was very anxious to and the third mid, " You shall not swear, t xcept in a
place the real pueition of the derey before theeountry, WU court of justice;' would any body contend that tbs two
doing so he wade no reference to any of the onmerouspeel- former were not in perfect ronnetency with the third ?
nuns already presented, nor to the declaration Mimed hyB.ooo (Herr, hoer.) So if two of the Evangelists said, " Yon
elereymen, hut quoted therm/us given by a Meek, prelate I shall nut put away your wife, and if you el ~. and marry
in theotho r home ex an expvieem of the sentiments of all again, you commit adultery;' and if a third Evangelist
the clergy of the country. The de 'Aeration stated their seen- raid, "You shell net put away your wife except for formes-
ea desire that facilities unauthorised by Scripture end by the Lion ; and if you do, and merry agent, you emmuit adultery:.
law and ritual of the church should not Le given fer the was not the expremed qualification in the third case to be '
dime:dation of holy matrimony. They dad not say that mule understood in the other two ? (Cheers.) Tile view he (lb. '
nage WAS intlimoluble, but they prayed that, u marriage W,dpole) was now taking wee confirmed both by ancient '
with a divormel women um declared to he adelterees, they fathers anal modern divines. Their opinieue lad to a col-
might nut be compelled to celebrate such a neariege. Ifs land by Archbishop Conner at the time when Eared cue
(Me. Henley) agreed with the clergymen who had signed was under discuseion, and they might be men in the mound
the declaration in thinking that marriage was not indiu volume of Burreee 1' lifetory of the Reformation." Or they 1
soluble. might be found, with some additions collected by Bishop
Sir G. GREY read the declaration otherwise. Conn far the lbske of Norfolk's case, in the 11th volume of i
Mr. lIENLEY butn the clergymen who drew it up, and the " Stem Trish ;" and theugh they d'ffered as to re- a
that was his opinion. The question wee not whether nano- 1 marriage, they were all- agreed as to the dimalueility of 1
age was insliseelnkele or not, bit whether it was win r marriage for adultery. Ile might quote slat the opinions of I
or prudent to bring its dissolution blue to the doors Bishop. Tayler and Hall; and indeed, from the time of the 1
of all persons. It was evident from the langusge of, Duke of Norfolk's WC down to the preemie moment the bench I
the Secretary of State and the fiulicitur.Genend of bithreps heti never voted against them divorce Lills.
that this WY only an instalment, and if they onceesteldiehed Ile (Mr. Welpole) was finite reedy to eencede to his right I
a court of law for this purvey they should bring it to the boo. friend (Mr. Gladstone) that the twee NUM of Jinxes I
doors of all people. The question was et heoher they would end re-merriore were very different; but, Sc opting to the ,
better consult the interest oef Donley end religion by deprive boor joulgtuent he could foam, he thought that the women 1
iv a few peneons t 4 the advantage 14 a dissolution of near- divoneL who euording to t!..e words of Chtiet could not be e
riege. or make it 5" extensive es to bring It within the reach runiarried eithout the ounsiteiou of adultery, were W.A.0111 I
of every one committing adultery. No one could deny that divorceel for lemer offences, net not for the great armee of 1 ,
thelew of Eremite Lad worked ill. With oven] teSeutlend the fiernicolun. (Hoar, hear.) The conclusion to whioh he ,
Sulicitow-General had forgotten to inform them that there the arrived, thereon., wait, that Scripture was silent upon the 1
preens divorced could nut merry unin, the guilty woman Arent; and, that king silent, evety clots must deal 'cab it a
could not rte trey bee pie/moue. That undeell the difference, in the way moot conducive to public morals and moat lolls.. , I
and was en euential cheek. It wag net so iu the E'i of tit the commueity at large. The question that next i I
present bill. It was mid there were only three mewas w owe of the moat important that could be agitated I i
eounee open to them. He believed the beet. course In any legislative assembly, namely, whether it would i

be beneficial to allow the redevelop of dimmed pm;
sons ? It was nut very easy to grepple with the difficulties
which Cary bad here to encounter' but Il.theught they must
all admit that r cssiarriage nowt be uilkiwed to the innocent
party, otherwise they would wake the innocent either for sits
guilty, and they ,would threw ten bun a burden which
neither reason nor religion would pantify them in impeang.
(Chem.) There wan. beautiful presage be one of our lead-
ing divines, which be world quote upon this debate
" Surely, then, no tnithatancloug the great authorities to. the
contrary, I may safely my the, in the 4.210 divorce. it fa
lawful for the isthmian person to marry ; but for that I thud
the Church of England bas hitherto Mee somewhat tender
upon this point, and that this practice is sonieuttat of rill
report, rand obnoxious in varier-Iv ropects toteueure, I should
therefore esnarinlyadvim those whom it may concein easefully
to avoid it, drat by being reccieciled, wbnn thel in p reaLle, or
by the practice of holy continence, where that tan ha mnin-
teined ; but if that suay not raved I dare not lave load on
any nten'e cenuedenue whichOud has not I cid upon him, and
I cannot creme thecae when God has toady nee." (Ilene.)
Those were the word, of Mellon Hall, and he (Mr. It ripple))
mme therefore to the gene.rol conclusion that Ileum rho con-
demned the bill on the ground that ft went Po far, had no
warrant for so doing, either in mripture or in lemon ; and
that the damn would he priectly justified in neognining
that which had been theianeetice in this country for no many
oenturien. (Cheered The next °biotic n woe that the lit
did not go Po faro it ought ; and he was tinippv to my that
no one had proposed on this orcanion to extend tine mounds
Si divorce to eafilllPS other than adultery, :met iildemper,
at, impumibility of living together, voluntary teparation,
aad the like. (Hem, hear.) Burke, is hi, own beautiful
manner, bad truly said that " Chen,' lenity by confining mar-
riage to one pair and by making it irchamlable hod 00120
more fur civilireetion than any other part of the Divine
word," but it must 100 remarked that when Burke talked of
indissolubility he Ind always the execpthe on account d
adultery in bin mind. If they granted divorce fer any other
cause then would be immense thither lest they should break
up that which was the best and the tendemet of all earthly
connexions, and dia,•rade marriage into a mere tramient amo-
Mama. But the tendency of the right hon gentleman's
(Mr. Gladstone.) Argument went to show that if you mauled
divorce to the one piny you ought en mriptural principles to
extend it to the ether. But the right hon. gentleman did not
draw • proper dietinetime between the Scripture' ellowanee tel
dime:tend the sociel application of that allowance. Scripturally,
divorce might be allswed to Wit ; attics; but ahem be came
to ounAider the question in a to, ad peint of vier., he most
say that the difference bower n the two cones won plants
Adultery committed by the wife necessarily broke up firmly
and home, and it might lead to the introduction of a opunome
offspring. Then:xis] consequeumv which flowed from the
adultery of a husband did not necemarily had to the same
mrChnuirontmi, ••;ifbmiyoudmallosiwil edwbdhi.vh:urcuebteedbeb"ngrann'tmerkee: they
application of the wife. you introduced a danger of conni-
vance where the pm-ties &dm separation." No woman, or
at beet very few women, would commit adultery for tho
mere purpeeu 44 being eipareted nom her husband
where they could not live together; but he (Mr.
Walpole) was afraid that them wire many men
who would not hesitate to do se. (Hear, hear.)
The bill certainly contained an extension of the means given
to the woman to cue for a divorce, beyond them the at Fo-
ment enjoyed. She might obtain a cliveree ter adultery,
coupled with wilful dews-lion or prom cruelty; but that was
an extension which would not be ndlocred by any petal evil*.
(lime, hear.) Ile now came toffee care of the clergy; and
on this point he entirely concurred with his right bon.
hind the member fur the University of Osicad. (Cheers.)
He appealed to the government to inert a t lade
which would save clergymen from the oppression of lc ins com-
pelled to perform a sortie* which they conselentinaly thought
was no longer applicable to the parties who sought it.
(Hear, hear.) Ha learned ft iend tab' that On chore to the
law was the fide,: to be required. Ile (Mr. Wulpolt) agreed
with him in that reelect; Lot there was no clam clean whe
were mare obedient to the law then the clergy of the thatch
of ErugLand; and therefore it w or net against them that Rey
aru,vment of tide kind aught to he preened. (Cheers.) 11
they pressed the bill As it stood there were many elemr
wen who weld find themeelves bonne to violate
the law of the land or else to violate the law of
God. That was not a portion in whi.h any man
ought to be placed. (Cheers ) It was a thleeme, loan
which they might avoid either by del ring the re-merman
of divorced perilous to be entirely a civil entree, or else
by intruductng a clause mak ir.g it not comm.:Wry on the
clergy to solemnise thneere•Mairr.Agee. (Hear, hexer) In ]ti
lend celebrated • wedding of thus docriptieu. end 01°110
the canons requiting a bond no' to re-marry bad only been
pared in 1603, and although an act against. bigamy bad
only hoop pawed in 1601, declaring that marriages of per..
eon,. dimmed ebould not be a“ounicd bigamy, althea*
Loud bad then mama to believe that the act Le performed
wren rot wrong,
day ever)• your ucy,,oa the natter tnedfrs:e. t::ofwjasParthtnheuetta,r.;.°Tet:eaner det:nsernbal.fp....invi."%::c:t.7yrienwtah.t.rettlct
mile= than for that umarion and not furl that the ma-
aciencee of clergymen ought not to he ate rind, as they would
be, if the bill In red in its incised form. (Hear.) 'I he
paneliste of the bill was empty the question whe 'heir
they should aubditnte another tribunal for the pee.
mut mode of preceding. Apply to that principle
the three eatreen one of which the right h. n. gentleman
(Mr. Gladstone) said they must adopt. Loppme tbcy
took the first course, and left things as they were.
They would then retain all the anotredies of the present
:wactlee—the action of crim. con, the mcleniastieal mete-
dies, and the parliamentary jurisdiction. Ile mid net con-
met to this. (Hear, hear.) The inched course wcn to go
hack and declare marriage indimoluble. That coarse would
only lent to the practical dissolubility of marriage by memo
of adultery. Such bud been the effect before ; encl would
be the effect spin. Not otly ;hie, they wool' heti, l •
wrong open the injured husband which they bad no right to
infliet upon him—n burden which God did nut indict. If,
them Clore, he mild not acquiesce in either of these courses.
there we, nothing left but to ende..suur to fettle thin delicate
and ditiltun qamtion—not by a measure which ahned be an
inetalegiar, but by one which should meet the eireninsteente
of the ease by nodding the evils on both aides. He believed
that this bill meld do thin—that it would protect the wire
from the inc omerancy of the husband, and protect the chil-
dren hon the inconstancy of their parents. It was not that
he was tneeneible to the coearquenete of doing anything to
touch the inciolubdity of the marriage tie the
he &incepted the mature, but because, if it were tho settle-
ment, or he trutted it would be, of this quaatine, he hoped
it would preserve the sanctity of the marriage state, and ITIF
Peeve. too, that purity, chastity, and pence which were—and
pray God they might ever be—the chid ornament and chr
racierixtic of an English home. (Cheesy.)
?Ir. NAPIER thoncht that in considering thin queetiea
the relieotu and civil view of the tattler alma be kept die.
tioct. Now, the ground on which he opposed this bill woe,
became it permitted the remarriage of the guilty parties as
a Chriennn ceremony. This was, In his mind, going in the
very teeth of divine law. It was attempted to get over this
by saying that Scripture was silent, and that therefore the
matter was a mere Amid question. But noerithetanding, his
right hon. kneel (11r. Walpole) fell bank upon the authority
of Ilishup Pad. However, he (Mr. Napier) said that prelude%
statements °ley went to the case of the innocent parties.
On the question whether the adulterer end adulteress should
be allowed to marry Refer a divorce, all the bishcps but ems
were agreed that no Etch permission ought to be given; and
they were supported by the Earl of Shaftesbury, the Earl of
Cluchester, stud other influential temporal peers. Tine greatest
nonconformist authority, Richard Baxter, took the same
vicw. Ile had not hoard a 'single authority in favour of such
• ponds...lm. This question was debated in the House of
Lords in 1800, en the bill of Lord Auckland ; and bishop
Horsley then maintained that the guilty partial ought not
to he allowed to marry. The bill passed the Roue
of Lords with that proviaion ; also a pruvloittn cooking
adultery a mime b unioluelde by imprisonment ; and the VS
in that form was Ruppried in the Cutlrl,lll by Mr. Wilber-
force, Mr. Hominy, and other eminent Lieu. All this went
M prove that it ma never before contemplated to allow the
marriage of the guilty poke. He found tint onset of die
prime divorce bills recently obtained related to pettiest fries
India. (Hem, hear.) But private acts wren no put of the
law of the bud; end all these acts contained clauses enabling
each of the panne. to marry again, but the dame enabling
the Adulteress to re.rearry was invarisbly attack out fa cure-
t:UW[ll Would the Arroruey-General consent to the
analogous clause in Lis Lill being eruct cut ? (lear, hear.)
The liberty to merry again was the ereat point of
the bath Be could admit that adultery wee n
ground for divoree ; but when it nee insisted that
both the guilty end the innocent party eliould have
the power to merry again, he email not acted. to It,
lie had nu eljeelle to the injured party king allured be
marry 'ruin. but he eould not go further. In what u position
would the eery be placed by Ruch an enactment. It would be
the most intolitable tyranny to compel them 80 perform the
marriage service over parties whom he believed could not
legally contract that obligation; and a conscientious clergy-
man, taller than de that, would strip Ms gown over hie
bead. (Hem.) Another of to this Lin was that it dial toot
reeks adultery a crime. What would bo said out of &oust
" Oh Obey would e.y), thia is a gentlemanly L It ; thew is
to be no reel masitiumnt." (Hear, hear.) The poops so-
lution of the eumtien would be to make adulnay u wide-
raean v, ptuainhable at the snit of the injured party. This
weuM be eonsonant with the law of Strider%
This bill was lute:Jed only for the husband. There was no
help for the woman, nor for Human ratinoßu who held by
the ineinsulability of marriage. They hid %belittled the in-
abetment and the 'deflection, and left things worse than they
had been before.

TLe ATTORNEY-OENERAL briefly mallet to the ar-
gument, of previous speakers. The Lon. Ittriobtr for Surrey
had. 1w said, emiu a lam nr.roments from lbe 041 Teetainente
and Lad rittillesgol him ithe Attorne)-(tuncial) to producer
• ease of intermarriage imbeequent to adultery M eay of the
books from Omenia to Malachi. He thrtuAt 1* wuld find
one is which adultery followed by tatuder ieraluni in inter-
marriage. (bear, hear.) But aa the apecrlf of Lis right
Lau. blend the member for Orford UntvenOy had, libe
Aaroll.3 rod, swallowed up all the rest, he should romans
hnewlf salt following very briefly Lis tight h.a. Aimee'
ar,...micalm. It,. ri,rlit hon. friend bad tratltaVtaNd
on the present °coition, and yet be wad vote for this bill
tallow be wished to rtaltify.all hie owo recorded atm nil
re intone when a eaLinet minister in 1813 awl Itss4. The
tweeted bill woe the name as that whit.b Lad marred the
probritien of the fuLtnet in 1844, sad whirh w hog no it ye
Atternry-Oeneral) attempted to bring in again iu the
right hon. a.entlenum mai wee en attempt to male pc:aired
capital, and -bould not have been tried, cocopt wda a eer-
Minty of aueeene. But what Lad him tirot hon. sand
doolllla on the present rotation ea Lie rrowniam argument
against the bill? A bank written by on obscure prurtot •I.
in eceleabaalieel court in balsa& (Mr. Giausruan