The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-02-12 00:00:00

LIFE. PEERAGES,

Lord LYNDHURST gave notice
_that the committee of
,ect to life peerages, would meet to-morrow,

privileges, in resp

The Lord CHANCELLOR and Earl GREY wished the noble
and learned lord had stated what course the committee

intended taking.

After some remarks from the Earl of DERBY, Earl GRAN-
VILLE, Lord BROUGHAM, the Marquis of LANSDOWNE, Lord
CAMPBELL, and Lord ST. LEONARDS,

he subject dropped

TRIAL OF OFFENCES DILL.
On the motion of the LORD CItANCELLOR, this bill was
read a.eecond time.

TURKISH MATTERS.

Earl GRBI wished to ask the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs whether ho can give any explanation of the apparent
contradiction between Colonel Rose's despatch of the 25th of
March, 1853, and that of Lord Stratford de Radcliffe, of the
27th of May following; the first of these despatches con-
taining a memorandum of Mr. Pisani of the account given to
him by Ritaat Pacha and the Grand Vizier of the substance of
the note verbal° presented by Prince Menachikoff to the Porte
on the 16th of March, while Lord Stratford de Redcliffe
states in his despatch of the 27th of May that Mr. Pisani had
assured him that Rifaat Pacha would never be brought to
admit the existence of this note.

The Earl of CLARENDON said the archives at Constanti-
nople had been searched, but the note could not be found, and
he was afraid the contradictory answers had been given through
fear.

Their Lordships then adjourned

HOUSE OF COMMONS. —MONDAY,
The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.

NEW MEMBER

Mr. W. MARTIN, the newly-elected member for Rochester,
took the oaths and his seat.

PRIVATE BILLS

The Aberdeen and Scottish Midland Junction Railway
Companies Amalgamation Bill ; the Bains3ale and Leeds
Road Bill ; the Cambridge University and Town Bill ; the
Carmarthen and Cardigan Road Bill ; the Colonial Bank
Bill ; the Conway and Llandudno Boad Bill ; the Cork and
Youghal Railway Bill ; the Lancaster Gas Bill ; the South
Point Water Bill; and several other private bills
second time, and ordered to be committed

were read

PETITIONS

Mr. DevalsoN presented a petition against the openiug of
Crystal Palace on Sundays, and Mr. MIINTz from the
Birmingham Fown Missio❑ to the same effect. Sir JOSHUA
WALIOLEY presented a petition from the Corporation of
Leicester against the County
,Police Bill. Mr. HoasPALL
presented a petition from a religious body in Lancashire
against the opening of the Crystal Palace on Sundays. Mr.
A. IlAsrtE presented a similar petition from Glasgow. The
majority of the petitions presented to-night were to the same
effect.

SCOTTISH POOR LAW.
Mr. EDWARD ELLICE moved an address for returns in
reference to the record of applications to the Board of
Supervision of the relief of the poor in Scotland, stating
in each case the amount of relief, whether in money,
food, clothing, or in any other shape (but it not in money,
then giving the money value of such other description of
relief), which formed the subject of complaint ; the decis-
sion of the board as to such allowance :being insufficient
or the contrary; and, in cases where the ground of com-
plaint was removed, stating the additional amount and
kind of relief that was granted from the Ist day of July,
1854, to the 30 day of June, 1855, (in continuation of for-
mer agreed to.

SCOTCH VALUATIONS,

Mr. DUNLOP moved an address-Fo;returns of the number
of proprietors in each come), in Scotland standing on the
valuation rolls, made up under the act 17th and 18th of
Victoria, chap 91, as owners of lands and heritages
therein of the value requisite to qualify for acting as com-
missioners of supply in terms of the :19th
section of that act, and also to the number of proprietors
possessed of the former qualification as owners of lands
and heritages valued at £lOO Scots of old valua-
tion ; together with the total valuation of the county under
that act, and the total valuation, in pounds Scots, accord
ing to the valuation rolls prior thereto ; and of the number
of proprietors, in each parish, of lands and heritages
valued at £lOO Scots, :and the number owning lands
and heritages valued at £lOO sterling yearly under the
act above mentioned; together with the total number of
proprietors in each such parish, of whatever valuation,
standing on the rolls made up under the said act, and the
total number standing on the old valuation rolls. Agreed
to.

PUBLIC CONTRACTS

Mr. RICARDO gave notice that on an early:day he should
move for a select committee to inquire into the contracts
entered into by the Government for the supply of the pub-
lic service since :January, 1854, and to report to the
House their opinion.as to the operation of the system of
supplying the public service by public contract.

DIPLOMATIC SERVICE,

Mr. EWART wished to inquire of the First Lord of the
treasury, whether any, and if any what measures have been
adopted for establishing a system of examination, or other
educational test for candidates in the diplomatic service
of the country. _ _

Lord PALMERSTON said a correspondence had taken
place on this subject between the Foreign Minister and the
examiners for public appointments, and there would be no
objection to produce this correspondence.

IRISH WEIGHTS AND MEASURES,

Mr. HuatE asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether the Government have had under its consideration
the question of assimilating the weights and measures
and tales in Ireland; and, if so, whether it is their inten-
tion to bring in any measure upon the subject this
session.

Mr. HORSEMAN said the Government had had such a
measure under consideration, but there was no hope of
their being able to pass it this year.
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COUNTY AND BOROUGH POLICE BILL.
Mr. HADFIELD askfd if the government intended to
press the second reading of this bill on Wednesday.
Sir G. GREY replied in the affirmative.

LOCAL DUES ON SHIPPING BILL.
Mr. ROESFALL said the second reading of this bill stood
for the 25th instant, but the subject was one of so much
importance that the measure ought not to be prematurely
hurried on, and he hoped, therefore, it would be delayed
beyond the 25th.
Lord PALMERSTON said it certainly was intended to go
on with that bill on the day named, if the state of public
business admitted of it. _ Pae

Mr. Pl. GIBSON observed that the report of the-Ship-
ping Dues Commissioner had been before the country for
more than a year, and, therefore, no complaint of haste
could be urged in the case of this bill.

PUBLIC EXPENDITURE

-NAVY ESTIMATES,

On the mot ion for going into Committee of Supply,

Sir HENRY WILLOUGI. RLEY drew attention to the fact
the expenditure of the past year had considerably exceeded
the estimates voted by:Parliament. Now, a considerable
margin was taken in the appropriation clause; and, if
these excesses were allowed, the control of Parliament
over expenditure became a mere farce.
Mr. WILLIAMS drew attention to the fact that negocia-
tions for peace were about to open in Paris, and under
these circumstances he insisted that the whole of these
supplies ought not to be asked for as a war estimate,
until the result of the negotiations could be known. He
did not wish that the Government should relax in
their preparations for war, but there was no necessity for
undue haste in voting the whole of the estimates.
The House having gone into committee,

Sir CHAS. Woori'slated that the Government proposed
the estimates upon a war basis, but the votes on account
would only be for such amounts as would tide them over
the period the- negotiations were likely to cover. A firm
attitude was the best security for a return of peace, and
therefore he could appeal even to the members of the
House to support the Government in that course, as the
most likely to lead to the desired result. Under these
circumstances, the House must not expect any great re-
duction in the estimates, more especially as the experience
of the past proved that, in the year succeeding peace,' the
estimates increased rather than diminished, as compared
with the preceding year. The right hon. Bart. then went
into the various items composing the Navy Estimates,
making a total, in the whole, of £12,148,641, including
50,000 men and 10,000 marines. The right hon. Bart.
concluded, by moving that £204,000 be grantedito her
Majesty on account of naval expenditure beyond the grant
of last year.

Admiral WALCOTT expressed his gratification 'at the
energy shows} in the naval preparations for next year's
campaign. He took the opportunity of complaining of
the course pursued by the Board of Admiralty, in placing
him on the reserved list, when he was recommended 10
1823 the Companionship of the Bath, and in refusing his
constant applications to be placed on active service.
Sir H. WlLLouonar wished again to ask whether the

power assumed by the Government to expend more money
than was voted by Parliament might not be placed under
some control? a sum of £435,000 had been expended last
year, and not accounted for.

- Mr. BENTINCIE thanked Admiral Walcott for having
introduced to their notice the circumstance of his having
been placed on the retired list.
CAPTAIN SconELL commented upon the several points
touched upon by Sir C. Wood, and advised the Admiralty
as soon as possible to get rid of the coast-guards men in
the navy, as their receiving more pay than the ordinary
seamen gave rise to jealousy. • Their place might be well
made up by able seamen if the bounty were increased.
He touched upon the subject of promotions. renewing
his complaints of unfairness and favouritism, and upon
the subject of the gunboats, with the names of which he
was dissatisfied. The Rt. Hon. Bart had said that in the
event of peace, it would be necessary to retain the gun-
boats, but he (Capt. Scobell), thought the number might
be considerably diminished, the ships of war being
employed to bring the army home. He congratulated the
House and the navy and army upon the institution of the
Victoria Cross, which he believed would be more valued
than the Order of the Bath, as some of those who had that
order awarded them had never seen any service.
Admiral BERKELEY disputed the expediency of increasing
the bounty to seamen, urging that if the bounty for the royal
navy was increased to £6, the merchant service bounty would
be raised to £lO, and thereby both services would be injured,
as seamen would, as it were, take the Government £5 on the
one hand, and the merchants' £lO on the other.
After some remarks from Sir C. NAPIER, Sir F. BARING,
and others, a vote of 76,000 men for the navy 1
_ _

16,090 r

Sir C.

Mr. MAGui

neglect by t

of £2

1 10,000 boys,

Inc
~,'reed to.

11 that he proposed to take the

id £1,000,000

ribution of

ote Naval

Sir C. Woon, in reply, said that the intention of this vote
was not to provide for dockyards all over the kingdom, but to
pay the expenses of dockyards at places best suited for the
interests of the whole kingdom. The right honourable baronet
remarked that the people of Cork seemed most anxious to
teach the Admiralty its duty.

Colonel DUNNE said it was not to be expected that justice,
with regard to taxation, would ever be done to Ireland.
England had impoverished Ireland and then charged her with
poverty. With regard to the Dock yards, he would put Mr.
Maguire in mind of the fact that, a committee appointed to
choose the best spot in Ireland for a dock yard, had selected
Cork. (Laughter.)
Mr. MACGREG R enforced upon the Government the ad-
vantages that might occur from improving Cork harbour,
which was one of the finest in the world, and making a dock
yard there.

Mr. MAGUIRE then replied.
In reply to Mr. SPOONER,
Sir C. WOOD said it was proposed to have divine service in
the Roman Catholic religion on board ships at Portsmouth,
Plymouth, and Sheerness, and part of this vote was for the
purpose.

- Mr. SPOONER said he would not agree to such a vote.
Mr. CAIRNS enquired of the hon. gentleman whether he
objected to have Roman Catholic in the service of the country.
Mr. SPOONER replied that, while acknowledging the bravery
of Roman Catholic soldiers and sailors, he did not think it
would be lessened if Protestants did their duty in supporting
the religion of this country.

After a brief discussion, in which some hon. gentlemen
made a similar privilege for the Presbyterians, that it ,xf.s
proposed to allow to Roman Catholics, the vote was agreed to.
The remaining votes wore then passed, and the chairman
reported progress.

was fixed for Fr

of the Court of Chancery (Ireland) Bill

The House of Commons Offices all was read a third time

Ind passed

PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) BILL.
3ERALD got leave to bring in a bill for enabling
commissioners of public works in Ireland to acquire certain
lands for the site of a prison for the reception of juvenile

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