The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-12 00:00:00

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..6:Uiseseileums, °i nervation followed this anmemmammile
after which the committee proceeded to discuss the aliens
of the bill A considersble progress wu made, with tie M-
artial of only a few verbal am-ndments.
Oa the 52th, er " appeal" claupirux nsolonged dbieussies
took place upon an amendment by Colo' DIINIII,
*meting that objectors as well as acts should puma a
right of appeal to a judge at anise exempt from the dime-
Um of the revising banister.
TM committee divided:
For the original clime lO2
For the amendment 33-69
The discussion of the remaining castes occupied some
home, during wank various alterattoos were saggestsd and
adopted, but none presented my point of general interest.
• sewed division took plea en the 110th clause, which
Mr. CONOLLY moved should be strait :mg. The numbers
wine: _ _

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For affirming the clause
Against it
The resaalmiag clauses Imre the. goals through, and se-
veral oddities's' provides. !grim besot disowned and added
to the bill, the hoses remtmed.

DISTRESSED UNIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
Lord J. RUSSELL aloud the woad reeding of this
bill.

Col. SIBTHORP aided to some returns sport Irish
topics whisk ke had asked for, bat whisk, Mom/lithe govern-
meat bald them ia their heads, they were afraid to lay be-
fore the hams. Ho objested to any bather addidoos to the
Irish loses, sot because he cared for the paltry stun of
300,000 L, bat beesuse he looked on It sea bribe to Liakaaea
to submit to misgovernment. He moved that the house
'Meld at moos adicrens.
After aappeal from Mr. FltreCX, sad Mae explanation
by Lord J. licesem.,
It,. J. BAKES referred to the almost ezelusively
I risk sissituties MM. house as It appeared at the moms%
M a risme ter palpating the farther seamidiredsa of the

61.btiNNE coincided in recommending the adjsara.
sett, beams be did no: wish to have an important in&
b:11 dimmed at so late an hour, midoight haring now
anived.

111;.3. HERBERT referred to OM allegation that a
loan to Ireland rivaled a gift, which be declared to be
a calumny, and offend to prove it by producing the Towns
of money received in repayment of stemma to that country.
Kr. FOX repeated the vindication of Irish solvency, to
w►ich

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER appended
his endorsement, Mt emaszkad *pm the absurdity of intro-
duciog a dismission upon the whole sage and put monetary
transactions of Ireland upon sway comeioe when a bill
referring to the country happened to be before the house.
Lord BERNARD opposed the adjournment of the sir

The O'Gormaa Mahon. Mr. U. J. O'Coonell, Mr. Staf-
ford, and Sir Laois) O'Brien holdup made some obser-
vations,
Lord J. MANNERS hoped thee a bettor opportunity to
dinar; the "Condition of Irelaad " question woald be hem
after &fraud.

Lord NAAS joined in that hope, and
Lord J. RUSSELL having bristly alluded to the dangers
of delay, the house divided,
For the adjourament
Artier it
Colonel SIBTHORP moved that the bill be read a second
time that day Ms months.
Mr. SPOONER moved, as an amendment, that the de-
bate be adjoined. He thought that when parrs were
produced they ought to he printed, and that the debate
*mkt to be adjourned until they were printed.
Colonel SIBTHORP °barred that be had repeatedly
asked for the parrs in question; and that as a matter of
course they ought to have bean printed.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that staler the bill were now
read a second time it was inspcseible to tell when any pro-
gram could be made in it.
Ides. BANILES thought that when papers were moved
for, the eat were responsible fa the printing of
ram. ( o no.) At all events, the house could not antis.
factorily praised with the discussion of the question until
they were printed.
The O'GORMAN MAHON wished to have the decision
of the right hon. gentleman in the chair as to whether
papers Arid be printed by the government whisk were
prodeeed by an independent member.
The SPEAKER said that papas laid on the table were
Warren to the Printing Committee, who had it la nttas
power to print them or not as they saw fit. It any hoe.
member wished them to be printed, his course WAS to make
application to that committee.
The O'GORMAN MAHON said this was exactly the
Worsteds's be required.
Mr. MONBELL thought the hon. and gallant member
for Lincoln (Cul. Sibtlierp) was defeating the object he bad
is view by the Motion he bad submitted.
Attar a few words from Lard J. Mamoru,
Lord J. RUSSELL &pirated such opposition to the bill
r was manifested by momag adjournments at that early
hour of the aornug (or o'clock). He hoped the publie
would understand W character of the opposition from the
neat division. (Hear, hear.)
The here divided, wham there appeared—
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Colonel
thorp's amendment, for reading the bill that
day sin months, was then pat and negatived, and the bill
was read a second time.
STAMP DUTIES _
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Oa the motion of the CHeircuus of the BIOISQVIR
this bill passsd through tommittee proforma. Ti. mend-
meals Is b. primed. Meaday not was undsrstood to base
boa hoed ter its (artist masideraties.
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Osismsi EIBTHORP gave setae that es the audios for
gabs We sommittee he amid aoea that the bill he war
mined that day six swaths.
Ths CHANCELLOR 0 the EXCHEQUER said the
bow 'outlaws' mistook. It was the Stamp Duties Bill,
sad see the Distressed Unites (Inland) Bill, that was than
balm the hems.

Clod SIBTRORP said it Was ao gutter. Ha wadi
ippon an government measures. (Laasktor.)

JUDGMENTS (IRELAND-) BILL.
This bill .s rad • third Use sadassol.
HIGHWAYS 13i
Os UN motion of Mr. C. Lawis, this bill pima Wasik
emaitten_pripforaid.
COURT OF szsaioN (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill was road • awed time, and the *maims Axed
foe Walassiay sesalght.

THE EXPRESS, 'FRIDAY

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LONDON, FRIDAY, APRIL 12.

liimerzas are placed each week, almost each
night, is most unenviable and discreditable posi-
tions. Boles attribate this to their want of tact, of
foresight, and of mums p and there is truth in the
socusation. Learned critics. like the Mess, will not
allow those defeats to be owing to the power or saga-
city of their foes. It moats the pestastioakds one
day, and the financial reformers the sash as most in-
espabieand powerlswp parties. Bow is. it, thee, that
*iniateer are so lanteatably nesepiscesi f It can only
be
and Ling
to .
the folly and treaslesry ttheir ealiportere
ds
The Tleses itself is a very hie eposisma Cl a sup-
porter of the ministry. What has bees its conduct
and recommandatioss P It has approved the CllAN-
demands

murk& of the EXCHEQUER'S _ tbs great
items of expediter: .sgeits=rehed the idea'of
diminishing military ex It 'bowed that,
after paying the in fake debt, there wee mon-
strously little lee the salliemer's pruning-knife to
practise span. When it was shows that there was a
estrelna, the Mem Willed that noes of it should be
remitted by et taxation', bet that it should
ri to pay the debt. After encouraging tbe
talanne.m.oa al the ilticnentrzz I. the hardness ef
Idsheert and the tying @ref his perm-strings during all
the time when he wee framing his annual budget, no
sewer is this budget sat, and the tax-paying public
so disappointed that members, in obedience to
their constituents, are Impelled to vote against this
tax and that tax, than the Times turns round on
thetanfortunateCameciLLoa and actually pillories him
kr doing preeisely what the 7Vmes recommended.
And if we thus single out the Times, it is because it
represents very completely those " loose fish " that
follow the shoal of a ministerial majority, end which
are seen to wriggle off from it when there is a storm
or • difficulty.
But what has created these storms and difficulties ?
What has rendered the steering of a ministerial bud-
get through the session a voyage of such peril ? And
what is it that consequently forces ministers to fling
overboard this abuse and that expenditure in order
somewhat to lighten cargo?
It simply is the efforts of the financial reformers.
The number, which answer to and which deserve that
name, are certainly not all enrolled in one club, and
do not all obey the same fugleman. They may have
different views of politics, divers means of attaining
their ends. Bat all &Fee 03 the one great task of
agitating and dimming. And this they have done
during the last three years with so potent and manifest
• result, that in one session we see government giving
up two millions and a half of its cherished military
expenditure, and the next year, that is the present,
when it was emboldened by the plaudits; of its anti-
financial reform friends to bring forward a budget
without reductions, it finds that members are so afraid
of their constituents, so much under the influence of
the:floancial reforemovement, that alter having voted
the expenditure thiy durst not vote the taxes.
It is difficult to Imagine how financial reformers
could have achieved more signal triumphs. Their
mslignme may indeed
.pretend that it is not the
leaders of such an association, or that it Is not Mr.
Comas, who moves and carries a certain motion.
Theme gentlemen are not anxious to claim the honour.
Provided the thing is done, the care little that Mr.
orMr. DRUMMOND, or Mr. Dienszu, should
have the honour of it. Retrenchment and economy
now tam almost the only popular breeze
blowing. The protectionists spread their sails to it ;
and so does the Times ; but who raised the wind ?
Who set the people thinking, agitating, emaciating,
and the constituencies pressing their representatives?
I The question is essily_wer. If it were for the
C ORDER ans
S and the Hours, the ROBERTSONnot OLAD-
'norm and the WALMSLETB we should hear little
tithe present conservative zeal for economy, or of the
embarrassments of the CIIANCELLOR Of theACILIQUIR
lapwing his budget.
We do not know, indeed, when a Chancellor of the
Exchequer has received so salutary a lesson. He
will have learned again to trust to the zeal of
his pretended Mends for keeping up expenditure,
knowing how little they can henceforth answer
for the voting of obnoxious taxes, owing to the
pressers pat upon them by the unwearied efforts of
the reform party. The time is coming, and this
session vastly accelerates it, when it will be im-
possible to continue the present system of voting
the estimates first, and then pretending to Niggle
about a supply that must be made up. We want
• general consideration of the whole scheme of
taxation, connected with exp.inditure, not based upon
foregone conclusions, but upon the prospects and neces-
sities of the year.
Whilst we say this, we do not consider the present
House of Commons as calculated to undertake that
task with efficiency. It has now not many years to
live, and we shall find it passing many votes of high
sounding economy and of mock reform, but
• real and honest revision of taxation it will not un-
dertake or not complete. The war that now rages
between classes and interests will be carried on ; the
landed interest will be still soared by the public
voice from such class taxation as a corn-law, but it
will take its revenge in other ways, either by carrying
itself, or persuading ministers to carry far it, under
pretexts of conciliation, taxes weighing more on
the industrious than on the landed community.
In this alternation of two great interests, the
country will be tossed backwards and forwards
like a shuttlecock for some time longer. Nor can
there be en end of it, and that end be a fair and full
repartition of the public burdens, until all interests
in the country are fairly and equably represented.
This necessitates parliamentary reform, as the first
step to, or concomitant with financial reform.
To this necessity, we admit, the public is
not so alive as it should be. It is fright.
ened somewhat by continental events, or by our
props and party exaggeration of them. It fears the
loss of trade, the destruction of industry and credit,
as the possible result of agitating for organic reform—
an idle, rear is a country like England, which is too
much in advance of other countries for any analogy to
exist between them. These fears exist, however, and
they do eagle parliamentary reform to lag behind
its financial sister, and seriously to maim and retard
the canes of progress.
We trod, however, that the existing Reform Asso-
ciations will not relax from their labours. Let them
not be deterred by non-appearance of results, or by the
results of their movement coming on the stage of,
the world, fathered by other and by strange parents.
.Thay may depend upon it, that whatever is hence.
forward dose in parliament will be caused b
what Is dons oat of parliament. The country is itself
a great council, and at is upon the activity, boldness,
exertion, and emaciation of the members of that great
national council that all great questions will be pro-
moted or decided, whether they affect the hardens,
or the rights, or the prospects of the people.

Air article in the Guardian—a newspaper which
advocates with 'imolar ability the views of the high
cherub, es distinguished from the high and-dry church
party—bas the following ominous heading: " What
will the bishops do ? What can the bishops do ?
What bare the bishops done?" The first question
receives no answer from our oontemporary. TM last
appears to be answered in the concluding words of
the article, in which it iodated that the bishops, after

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