The Express.
London, England, 1850-07-13 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY, JUT 12.

Teo Sptimsz took the chair at 12 o'clock.
Tte sorbing sitting was occupied with the Irish Medical
Charl'ice Bid and the Friendly flwietits Bill, which you'd
through committee, and the how. then suspended Da
sitting tin fire 6'th:ch.
The house rinsed at fire o'clock.
NEW WRILS. . .

On the 'notion of lir. BATTEN, new writs were ordered
kr Heretic at and Seathmapton, the former in the room of
Mir J. R. milli, who hes accepted the Dam of Attorney.
Omni. and the bun in the room of Mr. Cockburn, who
lee mewed the calm of ft menl.
On the motile of Mr. Horne, a new writ 01110 ordered
M Chester, in the room of Sir John Jervis, who has
accepted the Chiltern Hundred•.
Oa the motion of Mr. Gortnoas, a aew writ was ordered
fee lawman+, in emerequeace of the Toomey occasioned by
the de►th of t►o hobo Hem. Sir Robert Peel.

KENSINGTON GARDENS.
Mr. B. COCHRANE asked the Chid Comaimioner of
Woods sad needs whether government would support an
Wass to bar Majesty, raying her Majesty to assign a part
of Kensiadon Gardeas as a rids for next year, is considera-
tion of the crud which will be taken En the exhibition,
end the Jejune done to the ride in Rotten row.
Lord SEYMOUR replied that any motion for an address
was quite einneeeesery, beeAuse her Majesty had some time
slice given Oireetions that an inquiry should be made with a
view of ascertaining what further acemomodatimi could be
given to times who ride in the perks, without interfering
with the enjoyments of the ether portion of the public.
COMMISSIONS OF LUNACY.
Oa the motion of Si, A. Henn a return dated February 21,
1919, :tilting to the number of lunatics against whom com-
missions were then in force, and the total amount of their
booms was ordered to be reprinted; and a continuance of
similar return up to the present time was ordered.
PORTUGUESE EXPORT DUTIES ON WINE.
Is reply to Mr. Alderman Thompson,
Lord PALMBRII lON stated that the British government
were doing all Jo their power to obtain an alteration in the
(IL duty charged on every pipe of wine 'hipped from Oporto
is Beg and, sixpence being the whole amount of the duty
en the same article upon its *sported= to America. This
venally's impost woe equally injurious to the commerce of
Portugal sad England, and the governments of the two
countries were in corHE PrespondenceOST-OFFI uponCE. the
subject.
T
Mr. SPO3NER asked the First Lord of the Tommy
whether it wee the intention of her Majesty's government
to lay before parliament the report of the corn abdomen
appointed to inquire into the working of the post-edlee
regulations respecting Sunday labour, together with the
evidence taken before those commissioners ; also, whether
permission will be given to any parties who may require it
to pied uee evidence before such commissioners.
Lard J. RUSSELL said that an inquiry was being made
into the postal arrangements, and that as sun as the report
was made it would be lei 1 on the tads of the house. With
respect to any evidence that would he taken, be did not know
that they would want any further evidence. He was not
prepared to instruct the committee to receive every evidence
that may be offered on the stejeee.
BARON ALDERSON.-7THE CASE OF ROBERT

PATE.

Mr. G. THOMPSON acid that he wished to put a gui-
don to the right hon. gentlemen the Secretary of State, on a
matter which affected the character of the English bench,
and the administration of criminal justice In this country. He
eaw In that dare reports en aeolunt relating to the trial of a
person of the name of Robert Pate, for the perpetration of a
wanton and bratd askault on her Majesty, the 'snit of which
was a verdict of gaily. withoat any recommeadacionto mercy.
He found it reported that Baron Alderson in
panels, sentence on the prisoner, made use of
the foliating words: Considering the station
of 'oar lankily and your owe position the court will not
inflict the dberraceful punishment of whipping upon you.
The mart bee some respect for yon, though you had no
respect for others." Now these words were of a meat
noseekable nature, and he hoped that they were almost
wholly unprecedented, as, if tree, they might °viand,
wear the government. It was said that various site had
bees pis before the putslie, but of all the pines, the perk
seae
to recreation wee • piece which ought never to
have been selected. Hyde-park would be hereafter ten times
more Emulated than it was at present. He had solemnly
motes's,' and did ell solemnly protest, against the selec-
tion of th:e spot.
ALLEGED PIRACY OFF THE ISLAND OF
HOENE°.
Me. II CME moved for an &Elden, to the crown for a
royal e .1171Diiii011 to legal:. into the canoes which led to the
esiP),,PD'nt of tkz UsseeN forees and the.. of the East
laths Comp-say on the anrth-w.stera enlist of Borneo, which
lase r.:,tiltei in a heavy lose of life amongst the Sambas sad
Bahamas tribes, reputed to be pintas. He complained of
the ammo of intonation for which he had asked, but save
some patients' of this trassectioe, is which he eonled

1,608 sow had be.. Ineseeered la shames =id blood, and by
sad= the antra inglaad had ben disgraced. He was no
apologist he tell ; be: the wee aeosseary to re-
move the el these Wile believed that murder had
ben se=tess nojestiffsble 'meads had been shown
Ter the of them timid aad eured4lng ma, who,
as be........u.Atmiesesuied to peeve, were not ears= la piracy,
saes
r. l'lMVD&llirsiewilei that " dietienbled sad mush
Wired and eihemobbra saes," 31,3. Bockats& titocited.
from =mast oboareaee, the men den throseatee of the
please '~
dam and Weeds of the samenta Axel&
pelage, the of we by the Moog Mu w
meatial to meamene sad eivilitatica.
Mr. HURT DRUMMOND, with the MK view,
gassed *serfdom el the Ilawsheeter awl Glersew Oben-
Wee elOsomesees. whisk bad tread the goeseeineet sup-
press Y asses sees. when Mr. Hasa inserted there •
were ace" piaM at ed. In justify's" Sir J. Weeks Mr.
Dremeneall lead Wrests fro. • voluminous
to Waste theme= to =del he attributed dee peiesoedisi
attacks apes Sir Janes, who led treited attempt to draw
him late eenamsedel seesidadeas. aad wee lberefon
air
sad bladumisi. Iffe =Weed gas sobjeet late a variety
of details whisk we highly nabbed by the be=es, 108111 of
whisk sailed up
Mr. WOREGOR, who explained his oeserelsa with a
=Mita sempaay, which he contended bed Inas unjustly
mixed up by Mr. Drummond with the ameledeas sob=
Sir J. &sae.
Mr. COCHRANE bun tostimooy to the high qualities
sad the banthaley of Sir J. Reeks.
Coked THOMPSON said, the one Wag before the hoe=
was, whether these men were pirates or not • if they were,
the trot woo may of proof, but not a shadow of =ldes= bad
be= offered that they had committed any sat whisk seeM
Court of
Judicature at S' . He justified the proeieedinp of
Sir J. Brooks, end the policy of dealing somathrily with the
pirates in the Malay Seas.
Colonel RAWDON thought the vindication of Rajah
Brooke was complete- and
Sir R. INGLI S believed there had sever appeared in the
dependencies of Eadand a man who had done more honour
to the name of Ragland.
Mr. COBDEN observed that the character of Sir J.
Brooke was not at ince; it was not certain that he had ce-
der= the main= ; what Mr. Ham wanted was informs.
lion as to who was yeeponsible. He denied that there was
yet one tittle of proof that these Dyaks were pinta, though
they warred with their ant neighbours ; or that they ever
molested any vessel ander the Baldish fitg.
Sir F. BARING stated the sense why the information
asked for by Mr. Haase could not be tarnished, and, with re-
ference to the meant, he asked what better inquiry.oeuld be
had than 'judged Javestigatioa before an English judge ea
the spot. Sir C. Beekman, in the first instance, had bon
dissatisfied with the peed that the parties were pirates. sad
called for further =ideas*, which wee furniabed,and deemed
ooneltuive; yet the house was told in the coolest manner
that there was not • tittle of =Mimes upon the @abject.
Sir T. COLEBROOKE supported the motion, which,
upon a division, was negatived by 169 to 29.
SUPPLY.
The house thee mole= itself late emulates of supply.
109,85 W. wee voted for the disembodied militia of Great
Britain and Ireland.
Oa the vote of 2,0001. for the charge of Prince Edward's
Island,
Mr. ADDERLEY said he should be obliged to take the
sew of the loan whether this sum should be vot xi for
the salary of the governor, after the presentation of a peti-
tion he held in hie head from the Speaker and House of
Assembly, complaining of grievanees—namely, that because
they had stopped the supplies, the governor had abruptly
dissolved the legislative body. He hoped the house would
por pene the estimate till they had the plows containing the
information on this subject. The colony called fur respossi-
de government, and this country refused it to them.
The CHAIRMAN said he had already intimated to the
hoe. gentleman that it wee net competent for him to move

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a postponement.
Mr. ADDERIEY woald thee, is that cue, move a direct

negative.
Mr. WOREGOR was of opinion that there never would
be satisfaction in these colonies until the salaries of the gover-
nors and chief jetties were controlled by thorn.
Mr. HAWK said that last year the vote was minced by
1,0001. to It. propentamosintof 2,0001. The hem. gentleman
opposite (Mr. Adderley) intended to negative the vote, and
the ground of his opposition seemed to be. that, whereas the
Secretary of Stabs had promised to PrinceXiiwud's Island re-
'possible gevsrnment, and hat not la; filled that promise,
he was justified in opposing the vote. Now he (Mr. Hawes)
begged to state distinctly that there was not the slightest
intention of withholding responsible government.' from
Prince Edward's Island. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. AOLIONBY was glad to hear from the hon. gentle-
man, the under secretary, that there was even a chance of
responsible government being conferred on Prince Edwards
Island.
Mr. HOME said It wee a satisfaction to him to learn that
government were shout to confer responsible government,
as much eontueion bad been ceased by the withholding of it
so long. However, if his hon. friend (Mr. Adderley) thought
it neeesaary to press to • di.visi in—to show the colonists that
their intermits were not neglected in that house—ha (Mr.
Hume) would vote with hint.
Mr. H. BAILLIE could assure the house that the colo-
nists entertained no hopes that their complaints wiuld be
redressed eltopt by the interference of that house; and he
therefore thought the motion for negativing the vote quit*
in accordance with the circumstances of the ease.
Mr. V. SMITH said that the settlem to of the question
of responsible government in Prince Edward's Island—as
dilated upon by Mr. Hawes—would not be sufficient; and
there would not be a satisfactory conclusion of the matter
until the queetion of 'ma'am was finally armored. (liesr,
hear.) He agreed is the opinion of the hon. member
below him (Mr. Aglionby ) thot this country should pay the
expenses of the governors and chief justices of colorise.
Mr ADDERLEY said he agreed with the boo. gentle-
man the Secretory for the Colonies that the question of
escheats should first be settled. He thought that this colony
should be joined to Nova Scotia. As it seemed to be the
opinion of the house that the vote should not be resisted, he
would not divide upon it.
The vote was then agreed to.
Oa the vote for 11,2281. Bs. 61. for defraying the charge
of the ecclesiastical establishment of the British North
American provinces,
Mr. BRIGHT said, a few days ago, when they were
voting mousy, he took the libtrty of asking the noble lord at
the head of the governmen., when the vote for ericlesialtical
purposes same before: the hone*, if he would undertake
to give to the bouts some clear and definite statement as to
the position in which they stood with regard to these votes.
He understood that, with regard to the incomes of the
clergy, the were to expire when the pirties died.
An HON. MEMBER They
Mr. BRIGHT said he wished to know if government was
going to put an end to the present monatrout state
of this' —voting mosey fir all sorts of religions.
Here was the bishop of Montreal, with a salary of 1,0001. ;
the archdeacon of Quebec, 6001. ,• the rector of Quebec,
40N. and for house rent 901. There was the verger of
Q 'ogee 30a., and 201. 181. 6d. for tent of protestant burial
ground. Then, they bad the presbytarian minister 601.,
and the Roman catholic bishop of Quebec 1,0001, and
2,000!. to the bishop of Nova Scotia. It appeared to him
that the government had been most indiscriminate in these
grants. lie would not proceed to move the rejection of
this vote now, because there might be circunistanme
which might make it impossible for them to refuse it at
the present time; but he would ask the Secretary for the
Colonies whether there was any time fined upon for getting

rid of these payments ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it w.
impossible to give a general answer, because the circum-
stances differed in each colony. The beet way would be to
give a statement with respect to each, and therefore he
should confine his answer to the vote before the hones.
With regard to this vote the arrangement was, that it should
be continued during the life of the present recipients and no
longer, and therefore when the Bishop of Montreal died the
1,0001. paid to him would male ; and when the Archdeacon
of Quebec died the 6001. paid to him would cease, and so
on. It was therefore impossible to tell the precise period
when the whole would cease, but the whole would epee
when all the present recipients died.
After some further discussion the vote was agreed to.
On the • fte for 14,1021. for the expenses of the Indian de-
partment,
Mr. HUME said, 14 years ago Lori Olenelg advocated
the discontinuance of this vote, and it was proved then before
the committee that the presents to the Incline caused much
drunkenness and immorality. If the house would support
him he would divide against this vote.
Mr. COBDEN said he remembered the late Mr. C mules
Buller spoke on this subject more than once. He was in
Canada and saw the evil effects of it. He, himself, had
seen some of the remnants of these tribes in Canada, and cer-
tainly they had a most degrading appearance.
Mr. II'OREGOR thought they should not oppose this
vote at this time, inasmuch as the purchases were made, but,
next year be thought it ought to be opposed.
Mt. HAMM admitted that abuses formerly existed with
respect to this vote, but an improvement had recently taken
place, and he hoped the house would net object to the vote
in Its Improved form.
Mr. BRIGHT said that there were 2,6001. of the vote
paid in salaries, which was a most extravagant amoudt on
account of management, and showed that something was in
the background of which they were not Wanted. There
were ordinary contingencies amounting to 1,2001., which
made very nearly 30 per cant. of the whole vote. Theo
there were items for officers' widows, for provisions and gun-
powder. The answer which bad been given by the govern-
ment was of a very unsatisfactory nature, and unless the
right hon. gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, gave
a promise that this vote should not appear in the estimates
next year, he would advise his hon. friend to divide the
house.
After a few words from Mr. AOLIONBY and Mr. Hems,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER acknow-
heard there was a peat deal to be said against the
vets—(hear, hear) but it coeld not be *speeded
that he should make a promise that no
of the vote was to appear in the estimates next year. 111
committee should bear in rabid est they were eisabber-
barians who received a part of this vote, sad that they
would not be likely to understand Ike MOM lie a nnallaaly
stoppage of what they were acenseeined M moire de Mom
enlightened persona night be expiated to de. Be wield,
however, promise to communicate with the Oevermar•Gensh
nil with a view of reducing the vote as mush as visible.
Mr. BRIGHT hoped that the right hon, gentlemen would
also eseansialeate with the Governor-Omni to get the
Canadian portioned to pa the grant to the native tribes,
nisi that Canada se the heating pounds for which
this senpentatios was paid. (Hew.)