The Express.
London, England, 1850-07-31 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
ROUSE OF LORDS —Tummy, Ma 90.
TM Lad Clisseellor leMa Ms seat tv Ave 'Mask.
ENGLISH AND FRENCH FISERIEMEN.
The Earl of WICKLOW drew the armed et of the house
to the reported eapturs of sass lieaUsh Wet boats eos-
trin the oystetAl•bery between Diepp• lea imler,
e'llbisi bad beta tarn late the know pest by a Fnaie
maim.
Tlas lEargide of LANSDOWNE observed that. iessiwasik
se the lIIi mewl as Dime bad leads as report ea the
ealdset la ate FeroMpreflee. is might awasett Mat dm
ha la weds led hem
pink properle es ef sod ,
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=lve shim te her Itojeap's maw ea
hear ea Ws Name Wass,fishiest whisk
woe malodsigraMtllitotronma. alter whish taw moral
totri isbes were Mvaaeol a We, sat their kadships
BILLS OF EXCHANGE BILL
Os the wake 01 Lord EDDISIVIT, tide bill weal through
semaistar. sad was reported to the pew.
TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL.
LA GRANVILLE bresput up the report ea this
whirl was wood to.
SALARIES OF OFFICERS OF THE HOUSE.
Oa the rashes of the Marquis of LUISDOWItII, the tools-
Sims of the adore sosawittos of Me 19. b of July, ea the
&lien of the parlissitutary ofises sad the tfhas el seatle-
sass usher of the black rod, were agreed to. with an address
,hambly newessodiag her Msjesti to sirs directions for
Ye amiss of the some tato Mhos.
Amid to.
Timis lordships thea, at six o'clock, adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TUUDAT, JOLT 30.
The Smiles took the chair at 12 o'clock, when there
eras • verb. tell attendance of members.
TIII BARON JEWS T ROTO
PARLIAMENBSCHILD.—ADSIT.ISSION OF
Whoa the report which appeared ia yr terday's Express I
left the house, the Attoran.emseral was speakiag is oppo.
oitioa to Mr. W. P. Wood's ameadmeat--" that the bare
is of opinion that the mot of Berea Liesel de Rothschild, ass I
of the memben for the city of Leaden, is full." After oar
report WY dispatched, the Attorney-omnd went
co to say that he bed listened with Use greatest
pieseare to the able argameau of his hanasuble sad
learaed bind the member for Oatord—useumeats as
able, ho would say, as he had twee beard—
(Enna shaming)—sad most undetalstedly turd by
with all the earaestasse awl sineerity width seavistisa
of
their eenestases *mid impart. (Hoer. hear.) Bat he
regretted that his bon. sad Seamed friend led not proeseed
urea his naiad the same sonvistion. What was stated yes- I
tmdar by his noble friend did, is feet, rentals is setheteace
thew of the ques.ion, nasely, could the, say that the I
words "open the true faith of • Minimise' wen not sob I
staatially part of the oath ; that they were salt' • reptant
of some previous woods is the oath', sad ought to
be treated as simple slasayms, sad skikt, therefore be
struck out In his hen. sad learned friend's argument there
wee • great deal of ingenuity, but Dentin that sufficed to
get over that difficulty. It was issued that • certain oath
amid be taken in a certain set of words, and be submitted
that without another statute that helms had so power to
alter the form sad words of that oath. It appeared
to him that it would be very dangerous to my
that • particular set of words is the otth were merely
words of adjuratioc, is order to get rid of cos
Wag with a f 'Anita messing. He saw nothing is
the statutes to enable him to sarmosat that diMealty.
The omission of the wade, "on the true faith et •
Christiaa," tor the affirmance in Mr. Pease's ease, was so
part of the decisien of parlianisat—parlineent having ealy
decided that he could take sa anon instead of an
oath. The affirmation was to be takes I. sulk 'tons as
would suit and satisfy his seascienee—(hear, hear)—gad
U • question had bees raised upon that affirma-
tion, art it bad been stated it was neces
sari to affirm that he was • Christian, there
was no doubt he would not have had the least objee.
tics to affirm he was • ehristian. The act only esprenly
directed that the affirmation should be administered instead
of the oath. With respect to the observations that had
bees made by his bon. sad Wanted friend the member for
Weed, upon the 3rd sad 4th William IV., passed sabot-
quest to the vies of Mr. Pease, they appeared to him to
lave • contrary tendency to that which- he natesilled fer,
es by that statute parlisment appeared determined to pat an
end to all doult% and if such an act lad been pored in the
case of Baron Itothechild, all doubt would have been re-
moved. But, supposing it to be clear that parliament meant
in ohs case of Mr. Pease to put an sod to all doubt, the
question arose, would it be right for parliament to pas as
act for a similar purpose in the ere of the Bina Rothschild ?
Another Estate had been pressed oa the attratioe of the
house as the mainstay of the querns ; sanely, the decla-
ratory statute of the let and 2nd Vitt., that mooted that in
all cases in which the oath takes was Wading upoa the am.
science, it should be perfectly good and condone. There
was nothinz in it requiring the oath to be takes
la • particular form. It only enacted that the perm bevies
takes it in a particular form, he should be liable to all the
consequences, of an oath administered in the usual way.
He found nothing in that act which compelled the oath to
be 'their tuned on the present occasion. or which directed
or enabled Baron Rothschild to take it. It only declared
that if he did tale it in the form binding on his coa•
senses, he thereby made himself liable to all the
legal mauquenees and penalties, just as U he
had taken the oath is the usual form. (Hon.)
Hie hen. and learned friend had said that this oath was of
no avaiL If so, the way to deal with it was to remove it
from the statute. book. That heals could not say " this
oath is nudes,, sal therefore we may &spew with it."
(" Oh, oh.") It the house wen to de so, they would be
theuselne jutting what was useless and what was not.
(Hear, bear.) That would be giving to the House if Cos-
tumes absolute dispensing power. The Duly thing they
could do, if the oath was deemed useless, was to get red of it
in • legal manner—by means of an sat of parliamest.
At no time was it a seise thing even for • court of justice
to disposes with an act of parliament, or to argue itself
eat of it ; but it appeared to him to be still more inns-
beat apes the house to keep sets of parliament strictly
inviolable, and not to alter or chugs them in any way
without the sanction of the other branches of the legis-
lature. If it did the molt dangerous results would
follow. Observe what was to be done in this case. The
louse was to stroke ant of the oath the words "on the true
faith of a Chriatian." because the Berea Lionel de Roths-
child did not thist them binding upon his coaseienee. Well,
but was not it jest possible if they agreed to that proposition
that hereafter some other persons might, for the same na-
me, demand that some other part of the oath should be
omitted? (Hear. hear.) Is voting that the Baron de
Rothschild should be allowed to be swore in the way most
binding on his noscienes--aamely, on the Old Testament—
he never intended to affirm the proposition that the baron
was to constitute himself tha judge, not only of the manner
in which the oath should be administered, hot also of the
words of which lb* oath itself should enlist. (Hear, hear.)
That was s thing which he could not eonscientiouly vote for,
according to the view which he took of the case; but, said
his boo. sad lensed friend, you change the words our
&engirt Lord King George for our Sovereign Lady
the Qum. He really submitted that that was no
change in the oath. As well might they say
that they chanted the oath because they did not
say " I, A. 8.," but inserted the nuts nth, party sworn.
Speaking I. • judicial character, he did is his eel.
science say, that he did not think Baron de Rothschild
had takes the oath in the form and manner prescribed by
the set of parliament, sod that he had taken it in a manner
that disqualidod him from taking his seat is that
hone. (Partial cheering from the oppceitioa benches.)
Mr. ANSTEY said, that although he coasidered the
speech se the Atteraey General both illogical and self-eoa-
trodleary, he believed it to be the ablest that could be de-
livered is that side of the question. He believed, too, that
filed been made with the view of giving some sort of junk-
Statics to the Indiscreet and unreasostable speech of the
noble lord on the previous day. His boo. sad learned Mead,
however, had forweetas ea. past, and bad, to uses,
tulles into the very ester of the nettle lord. Be hi
reminded the house that this was et_,lndicial question. If so,
why was it to be prejudged ? I Hear, bear.) Why wm it
nude a cabinet quakes ? Why woe the law editor
ci tht crown pot forward to defend the nurse of the Prime
Minster ? (Hear, hen.) Surely It would bare been more
seemly sad decorous ia hon. gentlemen ea the Treasury
beach to have allowed the friends of Baron Rotliseliikl to
have exhausted the organists Is support of his claim be-
fore they called opal • majority to disaffirm it ; so sae
could doubt, after the speeds of *besets!, lord the day be-
fore, and of the AtteraerOeseral that day,_ that such
would be the course pursued. (Hear, hear.) He peotested
against this prejudging of a judicial queens. Ibe
snack of his hasonsable and Manuel limed the
Attessey-Osseral wee se reply to the arguments
ef the howvereble sad loomed member for Odle&
The Hower of Cessna** bed dispensed with the oath Is
ale owe AWL Peen, mad roaming ea wady plated •
4thisratery set, taking tho allethatlea of lobed
of ea oath. The beseurahloand imam' guatiootha
the Auswasy•theaeral said that was a seed t ;
but be had • basher authority than lit• fosweaW
and hersetlemen
who, ; be had the satheaky of the stele
lard (Lw: dJ. R genowell) is • speech mob ea the 11th of
Meech ia that house, when lie hen. tries/ sewed ids sem-
sti, tee to *sire tate relating tow quads& of
Jews or other persons =disteadnaitted nabs their mob is
the house without being *wens, NM
It usesof very great nonunion Oat non itself be • sesmaties.
It wand to him Um the ben se le Ow wile of who.
meet, me at to the manner Is oath tls trod=tind the este
le the ease of Mr. year, von of wort
(Hess, boar.) He me at a Ism te weilweeni hew It ors.."rhet"."Yr:
Pere wade ennead= la the wig he dik sod Sal alleilields as
en Owen be passed appolshesi Os mho Is whisk Vat timings
should Ito made, kg, if lie Yam wore Nollisi IN sanitise M.
Few upon his afirioatiss„ It ippon' to le umoonong oboterards
to enact, by • hush act, Hut he ohotdd Nato clot simatio• Is •
certain way.

That wee the &titration of the prime sisiehretwlto tail
aim yesterday that, he point wee not new to hi.. Ns did ■et
lentil° subject Bart■ Rodmanld not only to the less of kismet
butt° perpetual disability, and he therefore gave hie hearty
suppers to the au.endme■t prepossr:by the ho®. member for
the city of Ostord.
It,. HUMS said the hon. member for Abingdon called
■pon the house to declare that the hon. number for the City
of London hid (vented hie nat. Now, ■nder the act of
Charles, it ► weal), r Mused to take the oaths the Speaker
was entitled to declare the seat vacant. Now he wished the
♦ttornsp•(3seral to state by what statute or law the lea.
ti esabar kw London had vacated his rest, seeing that he had
talc■ the eatip a 1 allegianee end the oath of &uprooter. It
soma to bid that, as the hen. member had taken t assn two
soft, he *aid eel ts uplift