The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-11 00:00:00

COLIQTY COURTS BILL.

Os the widow for the second resting of this bill,
Sit G. GREY said that notoithataadise the shandom
made by him un • former occasion, m regarded the desire
that exited for an :maim of the jarisdistioa of these
semen, he should now say that the lam ought to be most
aiming, is pe,ceediog to the eoesidention of the measure
He wished to call to their recollection that the miring
act was act hastily pared, as it bad been bandaged to
gadisimeat by mecums administrations, and bad under-
pin most three sad eaglet revision before select coma
Mitten, as well se by a: me of the most able and ante
lawyers be the many. He believed a bill simile, to the
=WINS introduced by the goverment of Lord Mel-
in 1811, sad be believed some ensiderstios was also
ONO It by Lord Lyndhurst in 115411, darn( the administra-
tion ef the right hos. berme the member for Tamwoeth.
Ater the retirement et that right hat. gentleman, the mist-
ime ministry sostreded to Aloe, on aiming width theypook
Up the meame, meths se reseiw why they should alter the
opinions of pettiest governamM and it finally became
law. He (Sir 0. Orey) was fez from sayiag that some *z-
innias of tag jurisdiction el these courts eheald not take
place, but he thought they °arta not hastily toms the seeend
reading of • bill which made so imp.grunt a dime in these
OPIIna SS to take away their character es tribunals for the
settlement of mall debt,. The limitation of the eourla. lefts
diction at pretest was 201., whilst the hit thee before them
propos .d t, • aterd tt t • 601., and in cam of slander
and libel from 61. to 201. He (Sir 0. Grey) thought the
house would act most imprudently in adapting the bill, and
thereby altering the Manner of these tells. He then
begged to stove, as as amendment, that the bill be read a
emend time that day six months, peessising that, in the
*vest of the bogies being favourable to Its progress at the
present moment, he wool object to all provisions which
bad for their oil nt the increase of the gelatin paid to judges
sad elute

Mr. LAW seconded the amendment.
Mr. JOHN EVANS mid the legislature had bees called
upon by the unaniracus voice of the country. to eateed the
jurisdiction of the musty @Ants to 601. Os a previous
occasion he had pat it to the Attorney-General, whether he
would advise 'client of his to bring an scion to 601. The
Attonsey General would not say as. (Hear, hear.) The
reasons which had induced them to provide for the cheap
recovery of 201., were equally applicable to debts under
601. (Hear, hear) A great pert of the pnctice of the
county courts might be extended with great advantage.
The reel minion was, whether or not parties should be
empowned to recover debts under 601.
e Mr. MARTIN thought the opposition to the bill ought to I
have Tested es =eel hixher groom* than bad been taken. I
If the principle educated by its sepporters were correct, it
should be made applicable to debts of 1,0001. In fact, the
point to be determined wee, whether trial ljury was to
remain the law of the lud. (Hear, hear. Heparin:es
showed that the best mode of &drain:staring law was to
kart a jury to decide on mitten of fact, and a court to de-
cide on mattes of law. It was well known that for one case
which came into court depending cc a paint of law, there
were 600 winch depended La questions of fact; and these
might, in his opinion, still to be decided by a jury. He
was acquainted with the mode of admiaisteriNg the law in
Canada and in France, and hie 'plain woe that it was far
inferior to, and yet far dearer than, that established in this
toiletry.
Mr. CHRISTOPHER ttiiem 1 the country was stroogly
desirous of the passing of the measure. Tee sheriff
depute of Scotland was about to take cognisance of
any almost: why should nut E-gland Dave the same
advantage a. Seethed? His atunion had been called
to this bill by many of his own constituents, and
it had been represented to him that, is compasses of
the d faculty and expease of me. ruing debts, many
small tradesmen ware often obliged to forego pay-
ment. (Hear, hear.) He was surprised to hear it stated
by the hon. and learned tentlemen (Mr. Martin) that this
bill would do away with irisl by jury. lo the county
courts tither party was entitled to have a jury empanelled.
he gave the weasel. his cordial support.
Col. THOMPSON said be remembered 'maim, some
few yeses ago, a memb.r of that house, and a City barker,
declare, that if any man should sue him for 6001. be would
soaks no re dames, that arthritis& might matain a
pillion of hyperbole ; but, at all events, it might be truly
sail, that the mato of things was capable of being made
better, and that it would be very &Maul: to make it worse.
Mr. CLAY said the ugh: hon. gentlemen (Sir 0. Grey)
had re patted the question which he heel put before, where
was the house to stop as regarded the amount. L t the
jeried•tioo of the county court he increased to that amount
within wl ids it was notorioos thtt no sane man would go
into Westminster Hall. (Hear, bear.) The expels of ro-
wdies, in the county courts cooll never approach that of
the superior mane. The country was beginning to
opea its eyes to a great deal of tits absurdity of special
pleading. Ho believed that if the bill passed,
its working would be found so advantageous that
some of tuna would live to see many causes of that clam in
which that h in. and learned gentleman (Mr. Martin) was
Interested no locier tried in the superior courts.
Mr. B. bRNISON thsetcht the house should be very
mations with regard to this bin. It seemed to him that the
lee/Waters was disposed to make very hasty progress in
legialetion. It wee true that there was a general feeling In
the weeny that the set atready pared had been successful
in its operettas ; bat amok parties might have petitioned
in favour of OZWINieII, it w.s the duty of the home to con-
sider well before It proceeded further. One objection whisk
Le *stateliest le the bill was that in his origin It
would, if posed, dlntlabh the minutiae which was Mt hi
the welt's, of the new seeks', more putleilig wM
aileron* so the quid= of appeal.
Mr. MITCHELL said an commercial saws wadi ilidedit-
mimed a .tent to to into the cars to reamer UK
Mr. fIINLBY believed that if this hal pored, it wadi
nest effectually destroy the existing county courts. If eeleill
of greeter interest, in which miter amount were at Ma e.
were net there, the difficulty of deciding would to pertly
isereiseo. Mader all the circumetances, he wag awed to
sec is *faint the hill.
Kt. COCKBURN would wive his media sapped he the
Mewed reading of this MO When throughout the semairy
there was es unanimous opinion in favour of these aorta,
the have should aot hesitate in increasing the jusimileties
el warts wide& were found to act so well. He mold no so
differene., en_ questions of ((pity, whether the sitillst bs
dispute was 201. or 601. nicer* was some appubreeles that
these court would tend to trim trial by jury line Anus
tad.. Is the hest place, he did not outer In what had been
maid as to the value of tidal by jury. It might be the meat
palladium where the liberty of the subject was concerned,
but what had that to do with civil actions 1 There

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was no doubt that there were localities from which
imam might be obtained who would render mist easiest
allahaaaea is the adskinistrsfion of justise ; hat, taking the
avenge of jerks while were got together Is the swentry at
the verbs, easisee (be spoke tront experienos and the emol-
lient,' Ws met lavisher if years), he believed that adagio
judge—a nun of 'Agee' in. knowledge, and iataillonatio—
was inacitely superior. In each of the Jirincipal courts of
this *matey, vie , each of the CAMS of Equity, cabers
l
repress sad meat important was dealt wits,
tt,
Mere was • tingle judge. The but proof that • jury was
Weans ,ry was that eithtr of the parties te • suit might
sea tot the totem nibs of a levy, bat they arm did. What-
ever the, boa. eseisher for Pontefract might say, the law •
pas of this reentry were hemming despoly senseible of
the deers of the peeve% system. Tbe ftliskevOreeral
had dist inaiiiihr• Almon by his Worms, end the Attorasy-
Chaerat, be presumed, also stood forward es • reionster of
the 14w,bessuishe had given notice of • kill be simplifying
and elterior the law of p.esding. Tim program of legal
refers bad Isms jag Wog ets:aved to the Mimics distress of
the suitor. and tM elsprarie of the legislature.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that, regardless of
all the taunts which might be thrown oat against him, he
would state op lily his ofj Cos 10 this bill, s*i if ate
Lome Weight it to be their duty is this samoure, let
the r. eyowelf•ility rest ars themselves. Las them consider the
wands' which he Saw gee. these. Tim boa member for Pon-
tefract had Meows out Wa abuse the ref mattes of e Asia
Cisr:ic is the es perim courts. These matters had bees
mees
time ender lb. eonditeration of goverinienr. He
admitted that Mess smarts Lad been popular, hot he saw
posted 'beta cisme which VIA printed in the bill had given
Mossies to the bill ; be amaot the increses of salvia, sad
rittlas the slacks arm malaria and not upon fees. HO

held Is kb heel a suede to 1M clerk..( dill dißereat
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W = whish put =dm hiebilettel el thee Mho.
10 asowat of WM. per came, %last the,
sow Masted to trust thee to htelde uras MN it replay
to UN seneent of 60.
Mr. HUME said the Another Genets' had been "eked
whether he would advise say spent of his to go into • sup*-
, dee owe fur any debt wider 1001. The hen. sad learsad
erhad not serviced that wake. (Rear, hear )
r. tune) believed that the peeing of this DUI would
Wino of the greatest boom ever conferred at the public.
AO Wined that if the Jurisdiction of the county courts
moo extended the auderhy of curs would be mufti
aridly, es was saw se &egoist', the ease in the superior
swift. TM hoe armlet °mete had alluded to en.
Oder haver been unit aplast the sewer mute. He
auelod_ they should have susexplaaallen free the hoe.
end leaned Attorney. Geeeral.
The ATTORNET•GENERAL said, is answer to the
bea ember hr Meanies, that hr earl's as • client as to
tiosreiesezotaameesart fee a sea lees thee 1001. would depend is
of theism. Respecting vas nu against
**judge is the sopeder warts, he suet dares answering
Capt. rrrzacrir, la reply, said that ill he asked the
hems to do is the resat estedoe wee to resat to the prin-
ciple of the bill, when all the micas ebjestiems that had
bees staied could he telly diesesed in ootanntise
Min a few words from Mr. J. EVANS in expiration, the
home divided.

iiirTh; wood et &ding 144
Against it 67-77
The sasoshoomitat of tko nimbus was rosoind with load
ohools._____

ii7HUMB expressed a hope that after eo decided an ex-
prusioa of the oplaa of the houw,overamest would Cot
awash the lolly or further oppesing the bill.
Air 0. OBEY said he timid cersialy oppose say lacrosse
made is the salaries of the jadges ; tanker this that,
he abeaM bow to the opiakne of the house.
The bill was then °Mani to be coveraittoi.
yuBLIC LIBRANIN3 AND MUSEUMS BILL.

Mr. RWART seated the sommltte• au this bill. The ham
member proceeded to 'Weis seem modifiestios he had
made I. the bill, bet, owing to the melodeon prevailing is
the hems, he was but indistinctly heard. We understood
hiss to say that be propmed to limit the operation of the bill
to towel with aver 10,000 inhabitents, end to make a dime
appeal from the rampsyen neoessery previous to °urging
it kW °pasties In any locality.
Calmed SIBTHORP objected to the I:411 upon principle.
Yr. NE W DEGATE also ezpreseed his intention of voting
against the committee. Is the present depressed stela of
mieultsre, he could not crassest to give to any local or ea-
psi body the power of raising new rater.
Kr. STANFORD said he had teeny amendments to pro•
pose, but did Oct know whether they would be admissible is
committee. He objected especially to the short notice (ten
days) given to the rate payers.
Mr. HUME suigested to tie boo. member to wait for
the committee.

11;.LhiTtsiould support the amendment, postponing
the oommitte• ler six months.

Mr. BERNAL said he had formerly opposed the bill, but
that the recent alterations had completely removed his ob-
jadeite.
Mr. BROTHERTON complained that the right how
and learned member for Cambridoe Uniursity in ag
the bill, had completely misrepresented it. (Hear, hear.)
The bill wee permissive. the rate was only one half-pew
in the pound, sad could only be raised with the moment
of awe-thirds of the ratepayers. He should give his cordial
support to the motion for ring into committee.
r. BUCK, who was very indistioctly heard, °bleated
generally to any me teen which won:1 impose additional
taxation on the landed interest, and more particularly he
objected to the present bill, the principle of which was to
plain the plot rate payers in the hands of the toga councils.
the members iA which bAlies were mostly strong political
partisans.
Mr. WALTER said be wished to fut a.question that ap-
peared to him o: considerable importance, in reference to the
contemplated working of the measure. Supposing these
libraries built and furnished with books, were the public in
each district to be at liberty to take the books they wanted
to read home with them, or wire they to be obliged to read
them at the library? (Hear, hear.) Ile coasi:end this a
vary material point, 'evolving a very serious dilemma.
owed so much of the benefits of our serial system. (Hear.)
Mr. BROTHERTON imagined that when there was a
sufficient number of book, the libraries should lend them
out. At the Salford Library it was intended in the first
instance that the books should be lent out, bat the applie
dons wens° numerous as compared with the number of the
books. that it was found necessary to confine the reading of
them to the library for the present.
Mr. ANSTEY coneeited that the hon. member for Dam-
fries had met every Namable objection to the bill by the
areen-lments of which he had given notice, and that no fur-
ther objection should be offered to going into committee.
Lord J. MANNERS objected that this bill called upon
the house to regard thee, museum' and libraries in a more
favourable light than our churches, schools, hospitals, and
other nlixioae and charitable Institutions. _ _

Mr. OAVALD believad, as the VII no a stood, its opera-
tion would extend to geotlend ; he hoped the hon. member
(Mr. gout) would insert worde to prevent that result, if not
he should support the intendment.
Col. CHATTEIVION roads a similar appeal on behalf of
Ireland.

lir. EWART had no objection to the introduction of
wads in committee for removing all doubt as to the inten-
tion of excluding hootlan4 from the rperation of the bill.
With regard to Ireland he believed many Irish members
wen favourable to the application of such a measure to that
country, and the *Tidied* taken before the select committee
showed the advaatage which would probably arise from the
establishment of these Institutions there; tut, if insisted
upon, he shark not *ppm the exclusion of Ireland alai.
With regard to the levying of the rate the right would be
with the town council, fa the same way as the rates for other
municipal charges were raised. The hon. and learned
recorder had described the bill as one giving a power
to the wealthy ratepayers to levy taxes on theirs
poorer neighbours, but it was not so; fur every rate-
payer would have the right to vote for or against
tin establishment of these imitations, and as there
was no plurality of votes, all would be equal. The
object of the rate was to benefit the poor. In 8al:ord it was
found that the gown dames were those who principally
reacted to the library; and he believed it would be 00 in
all other plans, where public libraries were established.
(KM, hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT °laddered that onerhalf of the objections
Whet the bill wets net fairly put forward, while the other
Wit ad net apply. The objection of the hoe. and learned
meenisr seemed to rest solely on the ground that the people
wall lures the opportucity, if this hill passed, of learning
awry tangs of wiceli they did not now know and of which
be tbmeild they should still remain *rarestMr.
Kr. LLW—I said nothing of the km& (Hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT—No ; the hen. sad learned gentleman did
net my ee in so many words, bat that wee the infamies
to be dawn hose his remarks, and the ollesize of the ben.
seed learnedgeotlemea on the last occasion whoa this gabfest
was wader dlsetuska said that the people would by tide tra
have the opportsuity of going to then 'thanes and realms
the newspapers—the Doily Neon, and other ouch pram-
dal pablieations. (" Hear" and " ob.") Bat the day
had gone by for such earrow.sinded extfusinnese.
(Hen, ken.) The objection of the hos. member
for Deavaddro wee still more extraordinary. Ile (Mr.
Bright) had never Whin beard that the tows sow&
Presided over large egrisadtaral treats of country.
He believed in the Weasels& -- net only the

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town eminsile, but the maionty _ ritepayees wire t.
wearable to the ransom, which was entirely permiseive in
its obareeter. He was istormed that in the state of. New
York there were handfed. of sash libraries, and if thew
were desirable there, surely they ware equally so her. Us
believed that gnat poblie advantage would result from the
bill, sad thermore ha gave it his eerdial support. (Heat.)
Mr. LAW, in ezplenatioe, cossolainsd that the hum. iam-
bsr bed mierepreesated his sentiments altogether. (Hoar,
hear.) He bed on no oosssion sweated the slightestdis:
laslisation to the oommetaimtlaa of the fullest informatioa
to the publlo—hia eleiseilon was simply against the wealthy
inhabitant, of them boroughs coming to pull/maw t for
powers to tax the poor ratepayers to provide the toads aloe
establishing theme Illwariee, issued. of coming forward end
establishing them by enbeeriptione raised amongst themselves.
(Cheers
Kr. ',MUNDELL PALMER did not understaad why, if
this bill were good Is, Hiram d, it was not coital', good for
Beetisud, or why the inhabitants of Donde/es were not to
have the bpportanity of improviag their minds as well as
those of Salford.

Yr. BUCK beamed to iatorit the Lau amber for Man-
ama, 'bat in 'easy boreoglis at least oaa half the awielei-
= IMO paid by prima eowaroted with the leaded

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Mr. SPOONER knew of many boron tea where, if this
bill pawed, fanners and otitis connected with egrionitsto
weak% be Nude ILkia lo the zaps, though they could derive
no benefit hoot thaw Institutione. With regard to the
United Bake nbraview, he baheirad they awe not nolo-
laud by toga., but by voluntary eoattibatiasa.
Mt. lIUMN—Tbey are ail supported by tuition. The
Mate impolite a attain pri.porues of the funds and the
kWh, the rest._

Mr. SPOONER still contended that voluntary ontrlbu-
tiona •u the proper sole of railing funds fat such purposes.

lir tM aassiamat •••• 414-31

The Masi than wont late tneatnitase, ma pomaded to
dimes the AM dew, to whisk oarless assednients had
bras proposed.
Oa the addition to the dare respeedsi " netise," a pro-
loafed oenversation aimed as to the Insala If seam* the
Information to b_e_eves to rat&payors fall and timely.
Finally, it real sel that tho Settees of the prellatinery
meeting @koala be posted en the dem of &arch's and
chapels la the distriet, and advertised in some of the local

aewbpspers.
The Wishes= *Asa reported mine, sal the how re.
weed.
THE PARISH CONSTABLES BILL.
Tbh bill was and • second dm.
THE EXCHEQUER BILLS BILL.
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This b01i9,2107000ri;i4 iisiathirdti;si,7ai posed.
APPOINTMENT OK LORDS DENMAN AND

CAMPBELL.

Yr. MIILLINGS moved for • copy of say Treasury
minute made at the times of or relating so the appointments
of Lords Denman and Campbell rescued,* to die °Sae of
Chief Justice of the Queen's Bush, sad et any letters or
written conimaaktatices which pawed es times omselons
between each chief justifies and say menthee of sr con-
nected with the government, or en their respestive behalf; '
and of RA mesh or any part of the letters patent grantleg
such office to the Lords Demise and Campbell respectively,
as appointed or aged, or related to their respective salaries
as such chief justices.
Mr. HATTER said belted so objeetion to the =Woe, if
so 'godlike' se Lot to Weis& Wien which might be private
is their &stare. The first put be oessested to ; and if the
ben. member limited the second part of the motion to all
official lettere, or written isomeaueicatione on record in the
treesery, he would agree to it eleo. To the third pusgreph
he saw no objection, although doubting that it would afford
any information not already had.
Tito m Awn was altered socordlogly, and greed to ;
whereupon the hosts adjourned a few minutes before els
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LONDON, THURSDAY, APRIL 11.

Tax tidings from Greer*, published by oar respected
contemporary, the Ames, would be very alarming, if
true. But se these tidings evidently emu trom Glreei
or Russian souroer, or from persons who derive their
intelligence from these sources, they are to be received
with considerable dirrum.

The Ames wares us, and no doubt on official
authority, that the Emperor fficumati has announced
to the government of Greet* that "if Lord
PALMERSTON does not recede, Russia will
advance." Every English reader will under-
stand the meaning of this threat, which
in plain words is, " Get out, or I will
kick you out." The noses may glory in announcing
that such language has been used towards England
and its representatives; but we believe that no
Englishman, except that Russian official writer, could
take pride or pleasure in such an announcement. If
actually made, it would amount to the most egregious
insult ; if acted upon, to war. Russia could advance
in this Greek difference in no way except by sending
a fleet ; and we need not say that the only possible
answer to any Beet, telling a British fleet to recede,
would be a broadside.

There is, however, no need of alarm. The Em-
peror or the minister of Russia never uttered such a
threat as that which some mendaciousßuss-Greek has
palmed upon the Times. The Emperor NICHOLAS
has promised to Greece merely his moral support.
The famous Russian note of the 19th does not ques-
tion the justice of the British claim. F merely says,
that had Russia known that such a claim was imme-
diately, to be enforced, it would have counselled the
Greek government to yield to it. After writing this
in so many words, surely Count NESSELRODE could
not go to war, or send a fleet, in order to compel
England, or Lord l'ALmeasLos,to recede from claims
the justice of which Russia does not dispute. We
are therefore spared the indignation which the tidings
published in the nese would have awakened, could
we have supposed them true.
Our own accounts from Athens, which are to the
28th, are pretty much in accordance with the letter
from that city of the same date, published in the
Times But our private letters must completely can-
tradict the assertions in the leading article of that same
journal. So far from the French envoy recommending
concessions on the part of Greece that England does not
demand, and from his refusing other things on which
England insists, we understand that, on the contrary,
Baron OROS admi's the justice of all the c'aime in
some degree. And both envoys, we learn, are
agreed upon, a convention, by which a certain sum,
equal to cover all claims, is to be paid,
and that the ships detained shall be surrendered.
We believe the only difference to be, whetter the two
acts shall be simultaneous, or whether the payroent
of the sum should not precede the delivery of the
vessels. 'fhis is of little conetqiience, and could
afford no ground of cavil or delay to the Greek go-
vernment, unless Russia were to have given a
"promise to advance; in other 'evade, an order to
Greece to break off the nearly completed negotia-
tions. In this case the responsibility of all the con-
sequences would fall completely on those principals,
w:lo hold the pen of the Times, the Russian ministers.
We do not believe, however, in such outravous
rashness, impertinence, and inconeisUncy nn the Tart
of Russia, nor of such folly on the part of Orno. He
must well know that England cannot recede; mei
that, possessing the right, the means, and the oppor-
tunity of proving that English subjects must not be
outraged with impunity, and their complaints treated
with contumely, that right will be maintained and
the lesson carried out.

In payi-g the money which Hiroo Gnoe and
Mr. WYSE deem sufficient to cover all the claims, the
Greek government admits their justice in principle,
whatever doubt may exist uto tt.eir amount. After
all the fuss that the Times and other journals made
about Mr. FINLAY and his claim, the Greek govern-
ment admits its justice almost in Coto. Therefore,
that point is settled.
With respect to PACIFICO, his claims may be
divi ed into three parts—one part for the destruction
of his furniture, a &nerd part for the destruction of
such documents constituting claims ou the Por-
tuguese government II can be verified in the
public archives of Lisbon; a third, the
destruction of euch documentsry claims as
are of a nature not to allow of a trace in the Portu-
guese archives. Inquiry is making into the two last.
With respect to lion Pact/le:o's plundered house,
the Tunes says, be never took legal steps. Sa far
from this being the case, Don PACIFICO did forthwith
apply to the police to screech the dwelling i'f the son of
the Minister, ZAVELLAS, declaring that such search
would discover his (Ptictelco's) property, that had
been stolen ! The polies refused. Talk of demands of
legal redress in a country like that !
With respect to the wrongs offered to lonian sub-
ject' at Pstru, put of the money is to be devoted to
indemnify them, so that this admits the justice
of their complaint, and the signature by the Greek
government of the convention to this effect is all the
atonement that Mr. WYSE can require. In these
proposals and awards, come to after solemn and long
consideration by Baron Gaas, there is nothing that
Greece can honourably refuse, nothing of which Russia,
without the most wanton desire to prolong the suf-
ferings of Greece, could counsel the rejection. Peace,
on fair terms, as recommended by the French envoy,
lay for the acceptanoe of the Greek court on the 30th
at farthest. It is impossible to believe that King
Orb would reject it.
We bear, indeed, from all parts of the Levant of
the bluster:age of Russia. Hiving got KoSSUTH
'aged at Braun, it would take mere striking re-
venge for our support of the Suclate, in not sacri-
ficing Hungarian life, by driving 114 ignominiously
from the waters of Athens. These notes and bluster-
isgs have indeed rend. red the question cut one
merely between the British government and the
Greeks, but between British assertion of its
right to defend the interests of its subjects, and a
Russian declaration that this shall not be done, rave
through her, and by her laws. Such a pretension is
as inadmissible, as the language whtch supporta it is
imperious. A British government has no alternative
but to ignore and set aside altogether such insolent in-
terference. Nor is there the least risk of war in
msintainicg a just and proud position. The way to
provoke war, nay to ensure it, would be to follow the
advice of the Times, sneak out of the Gulf of Salamis,
and leave a triumph to that thunderer of BRONNOW
notes and Times leaders, the Czar NICHOLAS.

Moue-rem have been foiled in their resistance to
the second reading of the bill fur extending the juris-
diction of the County Courts to 304 in caste of debt,
and to 20/. in cases of slander and libel. Why they
should have re eisted it against what is obrinasly the
opinion of the public, passes our comprehension.
lost the cut. ty courts have proved sum. situ' is
' beyond all question; fir mere succeeeitil, in fact, than
was generally expected. And we believe, that nine
out of ten practical men of business throughout the
country, if asked whet should hero originully formed
the limit to the jurisdiotion of these warts, would
reply fifty pound.. Many there are who would carry
the lima still higher ; bat every argument
which omitted for establishing loc 1 tribunals for
the trial of litigations wheto the subject
matter of contest does not exceed 201.,
applies with equal force to questions involving the
value of 501. 'Prompt decision is most desirable in
every litigation, sled it is especially so, where the
amount is so moderato as that now proposed. Instead
of regarding a possible future demand, fur extending
the jurisdiction to 1001., with apprehension, as Sir
GEORGE GREY affected to do, we believe that if the

propped- whesaged shall be found to work well,
iletrdetansien will be very generally demanded.
ealr
eiivet g debt oe eaforce a demand of 601. in a
superior asset of leaf, a plaintiff must expend a sum
=ss Medea in order to obtain josses, ; and a
t resists* demand which he may consider
queelionabire what made by an action in • superior
Mute ate • tiee hazard of paying twice or
three times the amount of the demand in
the shape of eats. Then there is the delay,
the waltieg fartbe-belf-yesulty giraffes of the judges,
whisk then is no doubt often lead. to the resistance
assay jut claims. No one will grudge some addi-
liiikeivriuries teethe jedges and officers of the county
courts u payment for additional labour. and Qtr
Osman Gm altogether mistakes the temper of the
public on the economy, of public money when he_ tuna
forward that potion of the bill sun objection. What
is objected to is not payment for sernees performed,
bat salaries without service, or altogether dispro-
portiohed to 'mien rendered. The county court
judges are by general consent admitted to
have Issued their salaries; and, nothwithatand-
ing the insinuations of the Ammar-Gr.:mu; their
decisions have given satisfaction.
We are much inclined to agree with Mr.
COCKBURN in the opinion that the value of a
jury in civil cues has been much over-rated, and
that, in most casts, a judge will determine a ,
disputed question of fact, at least as well u a
jury. That gentleman's testimony on this point is
most important; he said, "taking the average of
juries which were got together in the country at the
various assizes (he spoke from experience, sad the re-
collection of a number of years), he believed that a
single judge—a man of education, knowledge, and
intelligence—was infinitely superior." And he in-
stanced the Genets of Equity, where all the great
questions affecting property and other important rela-
tions are dealt with by the decision of a single judge.
It is as a protection to the liberty cf the sub.
ject that a jury is invaluable: but in judging
of the value of evidence and unravelling com-
plicated or determining disputed facts in mat-
ters of contract and so forth, a jury is vastly
inferior to a judge. But in truth, any litigant in the
country may demand a jury ; and the fact that such a
demand is very seldom made is the best possible evi-
dence of the opinion of the suitors themselves upon
the subject.
The most questionable part of Captain Ftrz-
ROT'S bill is that which he said was introduced at
the instance of the ATTORNEY-GENERAL and his
collesgues—we mean that which gives au appeal
from the decision of the county court judge to the
superior courts. That a contest about 501. should be
decided once fur all is best for both parties to the
dispute, and there will seldom be any errors of liw,
the correction of which by appeal are of sufficient im-
portance to prevent that final conclusion of the strife
which, in these cases, is so desirable. The ATTORNEY
GENERAL said that " every case of mercantile law,
every complicated question of 501., might be deter-
mined by the judges of the County Courts. Su
sweeping was this general measure that it would not
only take thejurisdiction of SOL, but every court, mano-
rial orotherwise; all small debts courts throughout the
country would be abolished, and all were indirectly
ea ept into the county courts." The public voice has
anticipated the ATTORNEY-GENERAL 9 fear of merg-
ing other local courts in the county courts by the
demand of that which he deprecates; end it is a
mistake to suppose that any quest ion of mercantile law
which may possibly be involved in a demand fur 301.
will be deemed a su • cient reason for taking all
litigations where the demand is between 201. and 30/.
into the superior courts.
The decision of the house for the second reading
by a majority of 77, and against the strenuous oppo-
sition of the government, speaks volumes in its
favour; and should prove a warning to ministers that
the practicst convenience of the community is to be
regarded in preference to the antiquated technicalities
of the legal profession.

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