The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-06-26 00:00:00

THE NORTHERN TIMES.---LIVERPOOL, THURSDAY.

presented a striking contrast to the conduct of clergymen
of other denominations.
Mr. DRUMMOND considered that the hon. member for
Warwickshire, was entitled to the thanks of that House,
for moving that question, but at the same time he declared
that they might look in vain for religion without priests
and sacrifices. He urged the impossibility of legislating
for a people of mixed religions upon sectarian principles,
but yet he admitted that immorality was taught by the
Romish priests, and he wished every Roman Catholic, as
a man, to dispute the superiority of the priests. He con-
sidered that the best way to promote the cause of educa-
tion, and to get rid of the influence of the priesthood,
was not to remove, but double the grant to Maynooth.
Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the bill, declaring that
though he would give the grant freely to the: Roman
Catholic laity, he would not agree to the expenditure of
money for the inculcation of doctrines subversive of

loyalty.
Mr. Bland, Sir John Pakington, Mr. Horsman, and Mr.
Bowyer opposed the bill.
Mr. SPOONER then replied, and the House divided. The
numbers were—

For the amendment

Against it

Majority
The amendment was consequently lost.
On the question that the bill be read a second time,
Mr. BOWY ER moved the adjournment of the debate.
Mr. SPOONER hoped her Majesty's Government would
not support such a proposition.
Mr. H. HERBERT said that in the early part of the
afternoon, when the House was perfectly empty—(loud
laughter)—or nearly so—it was understood that the de-
bate should not be prolonged. The honourable gentleman
proceeded to speak amidst the great merriment Of the
house " against time," and was stopped at a quarter, to
six by the Speaker, in accordance with the standing
orders for Wednesdays.
The debate was then adjourned amidst loud cheers.
The Intestates Personal Estate Bill was read a second

time.
The Exchequer Bills Bill was brought in by the Chan
cellor of the Exchequer, and read a first time.
The House adjourned at ten minutes to six o'clock.

LICENCED VICTUALLERS' ANNUAL GALA I
AND SOIIIEE.

Yesterday, the annual gala and soiree of this extensive
and respectable society, was held at the Zoological Gardens,
a❑d on no occasion, for some years, was there a, more suc-
cessful gathering of the society. The gardens were laid
out in most 'attractive style, and the day being unusually
fine, the iatendance was numerous and rust respectable.
The promenade was filled during the day, and as three
o'clock approached (the hour for the entertainment) the
influx of persons to the gardens was enormous. The• most
influential members, who take an active and zealous part in
this excellent charity, were present, and'.we 'cannot avoid
saying, that the conduct of Mr. Thos. Carter, of Hanover-
street, the efficient and active honorary secretary, contributed
much to the comfort and enjoyment of all pre,ent. This
was the general opinion, and, for ourselves, we cannot help
saying that Mr. Carter well deserved theligh compliments
paid to . him during the evening, and that his

attention to the Press, merited. and commends its
warm thanks. The company having enjoyed themselves in
strolling about the gardens, and listening to, the dulcet
sounds of a splendid band during the afternoen,,proceeded
to the theatre of the gardens shortly after three o'clock.
where a sumptuous banquet was prepared for about 400
guests. The theatre, converted into a banquetting hall,
was laid out in a style of elegance that elicited the admira-
tion of every one, whilst the utmost comfort was afforded
to every person in the place. In this respect the committee
and Mr. Carter left nothing undone. The room was
beautifully and appropriately decorated with flags, banners,
&c., and about the middle of either side were placed the
chair and vice-chair. When the dinner was announced,
John Laurence, Esq., T.C., was called to the chair, and
James Thompson, Esq., to the vice-chair. " Non Nobis
Doinihi" having been chaunted by the choir, the company
proceeded to deal with the " good things of this world,;'
which indeed were provided in profusion—the wines of the
best quality and different vintages. This part of the
proceedings having been disposed of to the entire satisfaction
of all,
The Chairman gave the first toast of " The Queen," and
said, as a wife and a mother she was a pattern of virtue.
Air—" God Save the Queen" by the whole company.
The toast was drunk with rapturous applause, The Chair-
man then gave " Prince Albert, the Prince of Wales, and
the rest of the Royal Family." Air—" Spring Delights."
The next toast was proposed by the Vice-Chairman, and
was " The Allied Armies and Navies." He said he felt
great honour in proposing the toast. If the army had not
done their duty better than he did in making a epeech,
we would not be there to tell the tale. (Loud cheers and
laughter.) He had seen the grand naval review, and he
had no hesitation in saying that that fleet would beat all
the enemies of England in the world. (Cheers.) lie
trusted in future, however, that in place of exchanging
cannon bal!s with Russia and other nations, we should be
exchanging manufactured goods for the benefit of, and the
good of all nations. (Loud cheers.) Air—" The Soldier's
Love."
Mr. Carter, the Hon. Secretary, then read letters of
apology from his Worship the Mayor, regretting his
absence, but enclosing a cheque for £2O. The announce-
ment was received with loud and prolonged cheers, From
Messrs. Charles Turner, George H. Horsfall, James Tyrer,
Major Greig, (per Mr. Quick) all regretting that they could
not be present, as business had taken them from town
The next toast was proposed by Mr. H. Denson :
Mayor an I Mayoress of the Borough." He said, as it was
inconsistent with the order of the chairman, a member of
the town council, to propose the toast, it devolved on him
to do so. The Mayor was:absent on most important busi-
ness connected with Liverpool, and, but for that, his Wor-
ship would have been present. (Hear, bear.) In proposing
the toast, he coupled the name of Mr. Alderman Cooper,
who was present, and who had, by his honest industry,
realised an independent fortune. (Cheers.) He then alluded
to the conduct of the Mayor, who was no-v reaping the
reward of a long and laborious course of life. (Loud
cheers.) He then passed a warm eulogy on the Mayor and
magistrates of the borough, and proposed the toast, coupling
the name of Alderman Cooper. Air—" Awake !
lyre." The toast was most enthusiastically received.
Mr. Alderman Cooper returned thanks. He felt deeply
grateful for the manner in which the toast was given and
responded to, and regretted that his Worship the Mayor
was not present to thank them also. (Hear, hear.) He
said it was the anxious desire of the Mayor, the
magistrates, and the countil to do their duty
honestly and faithfully to the people. (Cheers.)
He then alluded to• - the town dues, and said
the corporation and the people of Liverpool had as good a
title to that property as any nobleman in the country had
to his estates. (Loud cheers). If the property was taken
from the town, the proprietors of estates in England would
be deprived of their property also. They had as good
a right to the town dues as her Majesty had to the throne
of England. (Great cheering). He did not approve of the
town council having purchased Birkenhead docks ; and
then, having thanked the company in suitable terms, he sat
down amid loud cheers.
The Chairman then proposed the " Liverpool Licensed
Victuallers' A.sociation, and the Health orthe Chairman
and Committee." He said, the present was the twenty-
sixth meeting of the society since its formation, and
although they had had a great many difficulties to contend
with, and obstacles to get over, yet they had surmounted
them all, and he was proud to say that to-day they were in
a better position than they could ever before boast of.
(Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) He alluded to the
house in St. Anne's-street, and said when it
became too small for the acecommodation of the charity, the
committee had erected the beautiful •building just near the
gardens—(hear, hear)—capable of containing forty persons,
and where there were fifteen persons residing at present—
(hear, hear.) He passed a well merited compliment on the
society, and proposed the toast amid loud applause. Drunk
with all the honours. Air—" Willie brewed a peck o'

" The

malt."
Mr. G, W. Hunter, the chairman of the association,
returned thanks. He said although the duties of the
committee had been arduous, yet they had succeeded,
and the society was never in a better position than at present.
(Cheers.) He then drew attention to the recent attacks
made on the vested and individual interests of the trade, and
how the society had succeeded in repelling the attacks made
on them. (Cheers.) He called on the 1400 Licensed
Victuallers of Liverpool to unite and repel any attacks made
on the trade, and then they could defy their enemies.
(Loud cheers )
Mr. M•lienzie also replied to the toast and said all
they wanted was unity to meet the enemy. (Hear,
and cheers.) An attempt had been made to degrade
the truth, by making them low, even by legislators of Liver-
pool —(hear, hear)—but he pointed with pride to the bene-
volent institutions belonging to the society, and challenged
any trade in Liverpool, or England, to produce a score noble,
or more charitable, institution than they could boast of, and
which was an ornament to the town. (Loud cheers.) He
repudiated the foul calumny thrown on the trade when it
was said the interest of the publican was to make people
drink. He denied the oft-refuted slander, and referred to
the support the society had received from the late venerable
and lamented Archdeacon Brooks, and said that venerated
man would not sanction drunkenness. The speaker, after
some other appropriate remarks, thanked the company, and
sat down amid loud applause.
Mr. James Morgan proposed the next toast, " The
strangers who had honoured them with their presence." He
spoke briefly, but appropriately, in introducing the toast,
which was drank with all the honours. Air—" Gaily
still the moments roll."
Mr. Hillier, of Birkenhead, and Mr. Watkinson, of
Manchester, in brief and appropriate addresSes, returned
thanks.
Mr. Rymer (attorney) proposed the .next toast : " The
Trustees, Treasurer, and Committee, of the Association."
He passed a well-merited compliment on those gentlemen,
and said the present very prosperous condition of the society
proved how well and ably they, one and all, had performed
their duty. The toast was drunk amidst long continued
applause.
Mr. Henry Dawson returned thanks, and felt very grati-
fied for the honour conferred on them. The society had
honorary members connected with the church, the b ir, and
the medical profess'on (cheers) ; and he said that Mr.
Charles Turner was one, and that he had given them an
opportunity, when he was in the House of Commons, of
what he would do again—when he became a member of
Parliament. (A laugh.) He did not care about Radical-
ism or Toryism. .is long as members of either party per-
formed their duty to the society, 'they deserved the thanks
of the society. (Hear, hear.) He then, in su;table terms,
returned thanks, and sat down, amid loud applause, but
again rose, and proposed the health of the Chairman, who
was connected with the oldest firm of Liverpool.
(Cheers.) He was very glad to find the old traders of
Liverpool assisting the society. (Hear, hear.) The toast
was most heartily received, and rapturously responded
to. Air—" Come, Boys, and Drink About."
The Chairman returned thanks, and was enthusiasti-
cally greeted. He felt reluctance in taking the chair, as
he did not feel himself competent, but he thanked them
for taking the will for the deeds, and therefore he heartily
thanked them. (Cheers.)
Mr. John Atkinson proposed the health of the vice-
chairman, as one of the most liberal and consistant sup-
porters of the charity in Liverpool. (Cheers.) He referred
to the honest industry and upright conduct, always pur-
sued by Mr. Thompson, and said, as a good citizen, as a
a charitable man, his name was never absent
from any good cause, or where his purse and presence
were necessary. (Loud cheers.) He then gave, the
health of the worthy vice-chairman, which was most
warmly received. Air—" Mynheer Van Dunck."
Mr. Thompson returned thanks, and stated that he
always endeavoured to do his duty towards the society,
and should always feel the greatest pleasure in doing
whatever. he could for it? tenefit, (Loud cheers.) He
then returned thanks, and fa.t down amid loud applause.
Mr. Dawson proposed the health of the worthy hon.
secretary, Mr. Thomas Carter. (Loud cheers.) He
said, when the society wanted a really valuable man, Mr.
Carter stepped in, and without fee or reward, brought
the society to its present successful state. The toast

was drunk with all the honours, amidst loud and con-
tinued cheering. •
Mr. Carter returned thanks, and said he felt extremely
obliged for-the honour conferred on him. (Elear, hear.)
Whatever he had done for the society, was for the benefit
of the society (hear, hear) ; for he, felt that if such an
institution was to exist, it ought to exist in usefulness, or
not at all. (Cheers.) He returned thanks in suitable
terms, and sat down amid rapturous applause.
The last toast was " The Lancashire Witches," drunk
with all the honours.
In the course of the evening, there were the races,
fireworks, and other amusements, and the whole wound
up with a brilliant ball. We are happy to say that the
'Utmost' feeling, and harmony, prevailed
during the day, which "will be long remembered as one of
the most successful-add happy returns of this annual
festival. .

A meeting of the 61erks and porters engaged in the
strike was held in the Hope Hall yesterday. The meet-
ing was summoned for two o'clock, but that .hour had
long-pasied before the 'proceedings.
,cpmmenced. The
attendance wag. not,io nurneionS as on former occasions,
being, perhaps, •the thinnest which has been yet seen.
At twenty minutes to three o'clock the chair was taken
by Mr'. George Wlikrrie.
The chairman requested that any party connected with
any ether meeting sympathising with the strike, Who
happened'tn be present, should come upon the platform.
We did not observe that any one came forward in
compliance with this invitation. •
The chairman stated, that the deputation had called
upon their respected and venerable townsman, Mr.
William Rathbime, that day, to request that tie would
act as mediator between themselves and the directors.
That gentleman told them that, as his memory was fail,
ing, he wished them to appoint some other gentleman to
act with him. The deputation told him, that whatever
gentleman he was pleased to appoint, would be quite
agreeable to them,.as the 'feeling and disposition of the
men were such, that. they. were willing, as one man, to
act according- to the decision of these . gentlemen.
There was to be a meeting of the board of .direc•
tors to•morrow, (this day), and he , hoped the
result would be satisfactory, but whatever the result
would be, he hoped that-God would bless the gentlemen
who had taken such an 'interest in 'them. (Hear, hear,
and cheers) The chairman stated that he had received
information that day, from an omnibus proprietor in
town, that he paid his • men 3s 6d per day for seven
hours. • This would show the injustice of the railway
directors, who would not .pay 4s . per day-for thirteen
hours. (Hear, hear )- •
Mr. Swan • -next addressed ' 'the nieeliiii,.and stated
that he was informed by an influential gentleman, that
a great number of shareholders and merchants of this
town, were in favour of the men, and that one gentleman
especially, stated that it was a "damned' shame" for a
handful of directors to keep out such a lot of men, for
the sake of £9 a week.
Mr. Sergeant replied at some length, to an article in
the Daily Post, in reference t) the strike. The speaker
stated that the reason why several of the men who were
present on previous days were then absent, was, because
they had been so fortunate as to obtain advantageous
employment in the town. (Hear, hear.)
A resolution was then proposed and adopted, to the
effect, that the deputation wait upon some of the princi-
pal merchants, brokers, and shareholders of the town,
for the purpose of aiding them to bring the strike to a
mutually satisfactory concluiion.
Mr. Solon urged the meeting not to waste any further
time in making speeches, but at once to apply them-
selves to carrying into effect the resolution which had
ust been carrried. The speaker stated, that many of
ie men bad got employinent, that many who had served
icir •apprenticeship as seamen were going to sea, and
lat others were preparing to go to another land, where
heir services would be justly appreciated and rewarded.

(Cheers. ,
Tbe Chairman stated that -he was informed Mr.
Maefie _did not wish to lend them the use of that hall
any !king& for the'purposes of their meetings.
A voice: There is no lending about it—he is paid for

The Chairman : He is our friend, any way. (Hear,
aear.) The Chairman said he could easily understand
why Mr. Macfie, who had. 800 or 900 men in his employ-
ment, should feel reluctant to have the strike meetings
held in his hall.
It was then agreed that the next meeting should take
place at two o'clock this day in the Parliament fields.
Mr. Solon remarked _that as there was no very
important public announcement to be made at this stage
of the proceedings, he did not think the reporters of
the Press need trouble themselves to attend the meeting
in Parliament fields, If any important meeting was to
be held, they would give notice of it to the Press.
The meeting then broke up.

THE RUMOURED STRIKE OF THI3 LANCASHIRE AND
YORKSHIRE RAILWAY PORTERS.—Upon inquiry at the
Tithebarn-street station last evening, our reporter was
informed that all the porters had continued at their em-
ployment,.and it was believed that the—little differences
that existed had been settled. •

TO R. S. CARTER, ESQ

Sir,—l intend to leave Liverpool for a short time in the
course of a few days, but cannot hold myself free to do
so until I have expressed to you my feelings with regard
to the " strike," which, to all appearance at present. has
ended fatally to the interest and future destinies of 700 or
800 of your fellow-men,—men possessing the same sensi-
bilities, and the same strong feeling of regard for the
well-p eing of their wives and their little ones, as yourself.
And I wish here to remark, that it is not my intention to
defend the step taken by those men, on Tuesday last; on
the contrary, I believe that they acted under the influence
9f a momentary impulse iu leaving their work, and with-
out that deliberate or serious consideration which the
importance of the act demanded. But,`orl 'the other hand,
I cannot be the apologist for the part you have acted in
this fearfully important business,—and here I must crave
your forgiveness, if I should happen to express myself in
terms which, under other and less painful circumstances,
might ill become the employee to use towards the
employer. But, sir, the exigencies of the case, in my
opinion, demanded that the truth should appear in its
plainest garb, especially so when I perceive it has gone
forth to the public, through the medium of some of our
local papers, that the clef ks late in your establishment
had no just cause of complaint—that it was merely a
dread of something we imagined to be "looming in the
future"—and not from anything the manager had already
done—caused us -to get up the memorial to the board
of directors on Tuesday last; and, certainly, if we may
take the explanation given by those gentlemen, as
the facts of the case—which I would not be understood
as doubting--we have nothing of which to complain,
in-so far as they were concerned. But the question
arises, how were those explanations to be reconciled with
your actual management ? and on this point I can only
regret that my remarks must necessarily be of so personal
a character. Bat, as I before stated, where the interests
of more than one hundred of my fellow clerks depend on
the issue, .I have yet to.learn the propriety of -concealing,
the truth, or expressing that truth in' terms which may
not be fully understood. And with this apology, allow me
to state, sir, that until some explanation be given, I must
regard the statement-made by you to myself, on a private
interview, and that made by you in the presence of the
Board of Directors .on Tuesday- last, 'as standing in direct
antagonism. In order to- defend this position, allow me
to call to your remembrance the interview I had with you
in your own office on the 30th of April last, when, after
stating my case relative to the stoppage of my advance of
salary, and telling you that I was very anxious to know
the real cause, and whether it had any reference to my
character as a servant, you replied in these words, " oh,
no ; none whatever, it is part of a general plan now
under consideration of the directors ; " and added, " that
is all I can say." The directors positively stated, on
Tuesday last; that theyhad in no way interfered with the
minute of 1853, in virtue of which that advance was
expected: Vou then stepped forward and explained that
you were only waiting to ascertain our characters, &c., in
order to present our case to them for Confirmation. If
this was truth, why, sir, did you not tell me so
on the 30th of- April last ? I would then have waited
patiently six, or even twelve months for your investiga,
tion, although I must be-allowed to say that the heads of
departments ought to be—and I, believe are—men upon
whom you might have relied for such information; and,
upon enquiry from ours you would have found, that for
the last ten months I had been performing the duties of
senior clerk, in the branch with which I was connected,
at a scale of remuneration of .e 5 per annum less than the
man who was acting as junior clerk or assistant at the
same branch. But, sir, you not only did not tell me so,
but you stated the very reverse, which statement has led,
amongst other things to this sad and painful result, and
I must now be allowei to say, that whatever evils may
befal so large a number of us and our families, in conse-
quence, or whatever amount of censure may be heaped
upon us for the part we have acted, those evils, and that
censure, must fall back upon you as the primary cause,
unless, indeed; my judgment misleads, 'or you can offer
some plausible explanation, which I patiently await, and
should be glad of an interview with yourself and the
board of directors, to-morrow (Tuesday), And now one
word in justice to myself. I wish you to understand that
I never took an active part in this deeply painful matter,
until the crisis had arrived, and it was not until Wednes-
day last, after the men had turned out, that I was in-
duced to make any remarks upon the subject.—l have the
honour to be, sir, your obedient servant,

EDWARD lIOLT,

P.S.—lf I do not receive a reply to the above, it is my
intention to make it known to the public through the
medium of our local press.—E. H.
th, Gibson-street, Toxteth-park,
June 23, 1856,

TIIE MANAGER'S REPLY TO MR. IiOLT.
Sir,—l am in receipt of your letter of to-day's date,
which shall be laid before the directors to-morrow
(Tuesday).—Yours respectfully, R. S. CARTER.
Station Manager's Office,
June 23, 1856.

THE LONDON! SHRIEVALTY,—On Tuesday at a Common
Hall of the Livery of London. John Joseph Mechi, Esq.,
of Tiptree Hall, and Frederick Keats, Esq. (of the firm of
Fortnum and Mason, Piccadilly), were unanimously
elected Sheriffs of London and Middlesex for the ensu-
ing, year.
IHE SEES OF LONDON AND DURHAM.—We understand
that Dr. Blomfield has sent in his resignation, owing to
continued ill-health, as bishop of the metropolitan diocese.
The Bishop of Durham, it is said, contemplates the resig-
natian of the see which he has occupied for so many
years.— Sun.
Letters from Hamburg mention that immense
quantities of silver, in bars, amounting to several
million thalers per week, leaves that city for
Austria and the Northern States of Europe, which
has for the time raised the rates of exchange on
commercial bills at two and three months, as high
As 7 per cent.