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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-11-10 00:00:00

though twelve months a member of the Water Committee,
yet never attended it. (Oh ! oh ! and laughter).

HACKNEY CARRIAGE COMMITTEE

Mr. J. WOODRUFF moved that the following gentlemen
constitute this Committee : Messrs. J. Woodruff, W.
Bennett, W. P. Jeffreys, R. M. Beckwith, 0. Holden, T.
Godfrey, J. R. Mc Guffie, T. Wagstaff, J. Gladstone junr.—
Agreed to. _

°The Shipbuilding Committee was the next on the list,
and on its being called over,
Mr. Alderman PARKER said that this Committee-wen
useless. They had met but twice—first, to appoint a Chair-
man, and another to give him a vote of thanks. (Laughter).
Mr. TOBIN observed that if Mr. Alderman Parker were
not so precipitate he would see that there was no intention
to appoint a Committee, and would also learn the reason
why they had met but twice. It was appointed for a special
purpose, and as that purpose had been accomplished, there
was no intention nor a necessity to re-appoint it. He might,
however, as the matter had been alluded to, express some
little satisfaction that the Committee had left the shipbuild-
ing certainly in a better condition than it was before. He
would appeal to Mr. Royden for confirmation of this, and
whether they had not established some excellent yards at
the west side of the Queen's Dock, where before there were
but three or four miserable yards. It was also a source of
satisfaction to them, to know that the efforts of the Com-
mittee had resulted in public attention being directed to the
matter—one of the very objects which the committee had in
view.

No re-appointment of the Committee took place
BATHS COMMITTEE.

Mr. WAGSTAFF moved that the following gentlemen con-
stitute this Committee :—Messrs. T; Wagstaff, J. Parker,
R. C. Gardner, J. K. M‘Guffie, J. C. Fernihough, S. M.
Mellor, J. Gladstone, junr., T. Fleming, and W. P.
Jeffreys.—Agreed to.

SPECIAL COMMITTEE TO INQURE INTO THE CHARGE PRE-

FERRED AGAINST MR. BRADLEY.
Mr. HODSON, in moving the appointment of this Com-
mittee, said that be wished it should be perfectly impartial,
he therefore selected some-of the principal members of the
Council, to act on it. They were Mr. Hornby, Mr. J.
Holme, Mr. Bramley Moore, Mr. G. Holt, Mr. J. R.
M‘Gufe, Mr. J. H. Turner, Mr. C. Turner, and Mr. J.
Stewart. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ .

Moss also be put on

Mr. FERNlnotran suggested that Mr
the Committee.
Mr. HOLDEN objected, as Mr. Muss was a party mixed up
in the allegations. Mr. Hodson would also name Mr. Tobin
on the Committee.

Mr. Alderman TURNER said that it struck him that ma-
gistrates should not be on the Committee, as the matter
might subsequently come before them in their judicial capa-

Mr. C. TURNER differed from the last speaker. He
thought magistrates, from their habits of investigation,
would be the best qualified to inquire into this matter.
The TowN CLERK then read Mr. Hodson's resolution,
which was—" Resolved, that the following gentlemen be

appointed a special Committee, to inquire into the charge
preferred against. Mr. Bradley, a member of the Council,
relative to the course pursued by him at the recent election
of Councillor for Vauxhall Ward—as to that which is al-
leged, that he unduly and improperly used his position of a
Councillor and a member of a Committee of this Council, to
influence a voter named Stopford, as to giving his vote at
such election ; and that the Committee be directed to report
thereon, with a verbatim report of the evidence adduced :—"
[Here followed the names of the Committee as given
above.]
Mr. BRADLEY : But " influencing" in what form ?
The TowN CLERK : That is Mr. Hodson's motion, and
you cannot change it.
Mr. BRADLEY : Well, I don't know, but it does not ap-
pear to me sufficiently specific. (Laughter.)
The MAYOR asked if any gentleman would second the
resolution ? _ _

Mr. WAGSTAFF would second it.
Mr. BEcKwrrn : And I shall seecond it, for the sake of
justice. (Laughter.)
The TowN CLERIC said it was competent for any member
of the Council, either to move an amendment to the resolu-
tion, or a special instruction to the Committee.
Mr. BRADLEY again observed that he did not consider the
charge sufficiently specific.
Mr. C. TURNER replied that the inquiry, under the reso-
lution, would be limited to the specific charge of " unduly
and improperly influencing the voter Stafford." It would
not be competent for the Committee to go beyond that, and
that, he understood, was what Mr. Bradley wanted.
Mr. BRADLEY : Yes ; but why should not the undue in-
fluence be stated ? I want the charge to be specific.
The MAYOR : The charge is in the words of the motion—
it is for "unduly and improperly influencing a voter."
(Laughter.)
Mr. BRADLEY : Yes ; but how influenced him? (Laughter.)
Mr. C. TURN Elt : When you have heard the evidence that
is intended to substantiate the charge, I am sure the Com-
mittee will give you any time you may require to answer it;
and nothing but the evidence can tell you the nature of the
charge against you. It would be impossible to describe it
in a resolution.

Mr. BRADLEY : Yes, but I think it ought to be more
specific. (Laughter.)
Mr. C. TURNER : It is for "unduly and improperly in-
fluencing"-
Mr. BRADLEY : But that is a very vague term. (Re-
newed laughter). I must also take exception to Mr. Mc.
Guffie's name being, on the committee.
Mr. HODSON : I will substitute any name that Mr. Brad-
ley likes. (" No, no.")
Mr. Moss suggested that Mr. Alderman Dover should be
put on the committee.
• Mr. BRADLEY : I must say I think I should have Mr.
Moss on the committee. (" Oh !oh !") I think lam not
asking anything unreasonable, and I submit that Mr. Alder-
man Dover's name should be substituted in place of Mr.
Guffie. .

Mr. Alderman DOVER said he should have great pleasure
in acting with Mr. Mc.Guffie, but ho should decline to act
in the manner proposed.
Mr. MC.GUFFIE said that he was not aware his name was
on the committee, and that he was most willing to withdraw,
if the Council wished it. (" No, no.")
Mr. Hour moved, and Mr. LANGSDALE seconded, that
the name of Mr. Alderman Dover be added to the com-
mittee ' • which was agreed to.
Mr. BRADLEY : I really must request that Mr. Moss's
name be added to the list ; it is only right and fair that it
should be so. (" No, no.") If it is not added I shall not
think it a fair committee. (Cries of " order, order.")
Mr. GODFREY: That is another insult to the whole

Council.
The MAYou : The motion is in the hands of the Council,
and you should not address such language to it, as that it is

unfair that such a motion should- pass. Val. must keep
yourself in order, then, and not make such observations,
which reflect on the Council generally.
Mr. HODSON : It is not in the Council, but Mr. Hodson.
(Oh ! oh !) I cannot consent to the committee.
Mr. Alderman HOLME said he could not at all describe how
painful it was to him and to the Council to witness the pre-
sent scene. His name had been put on the committee, and
he begged to say that as the committee was to enquire into
a most serious charge affecting not only Mr. Bradley's pub-
lie, but also his private character, gentlemen should be
placed on that committee, and gentlemen only. who would
act on that committee with the most perfect impartiality,
and were in the habit of having questions of a serious nature
brought before them in their magisterial capacity, and who
would act with calmness, impartiality, and strict justice.
He (Mr. Holme) should not object to Mr. Moss otherwise.
As the personal friend of Mr. Bradley, he should have been
glad to have seen him associated with the committee, but
after the speech which Mr. Moss had made, in which he
displayed so much partizanship, he thought it would be de-
sirable for Mr. Bradley not to press putting Mr. Moss's
name on the committee, but to be perfectly satisfied with the
character of those gentlemen who were in the habit of dealing
with cases of great difficulty day by day in their magisterial
capacity, and whose character, he was sure, would be a gua-
rantee to Mr. Bradley, and to the Council, that strict and
impartial justice, without favour or affection, would be
shown. Mr. Bradley would have the opportunityi of ap-
pearing there, and every opportunity would be given to him
to rebut a charge so seriously affecting him. He hoped Mr.
Bradley would withdraw the request to place Mr. Moss on
the Committee, and be perfectly content to leave himself in
the hands of gentlemen who would do him justice. (Hear,
hear.)
Mr. Moss did not wish his name to be on the Committee.
He should recommend Mr. Bradley to place himself in the
hands of the Committee.
The gentlemen named were then appointed a Committee
to enqure into the charge preferred against Mr. Bradley.
MAYOR'S COMMUNICATIONS

Several communications to the Mayor were then read.
They included a very valuable letter, which is about being
printed for distribution, from the Chaplain of the Gaol, re-
commending . the establishment of a reformatory float for
juvenile criminals, and adducing several proofs in support of
the necessity for such an Institution. The communication
was referred to the Gaol and House of Correction Committee.
A letter from the licenced victuallers, requiring the use of
the rooms in. the Town Hall, was referred to the Town Hall
Committee. The following communications were also
read :

" SOUTH PORTICO OF ST. GEORGE'S HALL
" To the Worshipful the Mayor.

" SIR,—I am really concerned to be the ostensible cause of
further trouble to yourself and the Council, respecting the
South Portico of the Assize Courts; but as you have been
so good to send me a copy of Mr. Cockerell's letter of the
28th of September, I trust I shall be excused in submitting
a few observations in reply.
" Mr. Cockerell labours to impress on the committee the
fact that certain peculiarities of structure which I have
pointed out as serious defects in the South Portico of St.
George's Hall, may be found in a few other buildings, both
ancient and modern. But the question, I apprehend, really
is, whether taking advantage of the noble types of architec-
ture which past and present times afford us, we should not
endeavour to perpetuate the beauties of the structure which
no one disputes, and to avoid those defects which may occa-
sion ally be found, isolated perhaps, and with more or less
prominency in works even of acknowledged excellence. ,
" Mr. Cockerell does not question the practability of the
proposed improvements, but he calls attention to 'the great