The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-18 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, APRIL 18, 1850.

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than mitre, bemuse ha believed that it was the bushier
of the goveromeat to prevent mime Ia Gym possible way,
rather theaafter It hod taken plans to take menace to
punish it, that be embed the house to divest itself satirely of
bigotry and pet4mllles, end opproash ibis quetios calmly
aad eaostaimmeAr. (rime, hear.) Begin ha sat down,
he emid misk to ask adieus M game to him that
be end those who lbmight with him weft lite eati `y e
seise of eillirtm. lad- 'modifies it hepatitis Orr them to
acquire religions admen's!" under this arenbe ss. It
would not do to call them irreligious ee they
made the children livable of saderMending whattaught ; they gave them iostrisetiso. whit& metal land them
to judge, but lie not teethes, hopellathea be met oat
them. They would and the &able bath day by Se
their parents; the easel woad Meek *eta what was
secular edscation, sad thick Riede would bs so formed es te
melds them to reerive say erteetaias ira the way of raisin
that may lie gives them at beam He main inked the Imes
to pledis iterli to this ; that the badmen of sdasatisa tem
one of the first fnietioae of the everrastrat
Amp the &tab of the bill If they permed, het they
adopt that principle. He was glad to see a gentlesnem
hold enough to face than prejudices; they had ash
broken the los, and they should continue the
fight. It was not *sough f3r the noble lord to talk art:
Frames and &pia, sad to reed English books, Ito most show
him that the piaelple of the bill was *mg. The hew
nations* thee easieded by thaakieg the hew for litter
lag to him se elatalleely, and expeesehag his Weeds. a
miss; for tho
Lord ASILLNY add that it was impossible to estimate the
impute/ me of** question now before the boon. II duo
mended that Menem forbearanoe, eoneideration, and ealeimea
There newer was submitted to the house a proposal whisk
was wren ilea sad unmistakeable.
able /*atlas= who had just sat down sibniteedibliNZt
had been stated by the noble lord the member he Amadei
that this was the beginning of a sew series d 1111111,1111',6 • that
it wee possible that he and his party might be detsaiml
the first instases, but that they would em •to eserite
resew the fight. He (Lord Ashley) had oefleralli net seek
wee the intention of these parties, and It wee became Its mw
them so desnadned I. this coarse that he felt so deep IS
alarm, for he most solemnly declared his firm belief that es
the issue of that day, or of the question to be decided
that day, depended altogether the lusters history of the •
British empire. Ho merit protest spied the principle
laid down by the bon. freedmen who had just spokes, that
Me morality of the Beriptures had nothing to do with its
histories se its donuts. (Hear. hear.) The morel teaching
sad the doctrinal dogmas of christianity were inseparably
assmasted. He alone amid receive the fall force of moral
oremepet who receives these tenets with implicit belief. And
k win is vain to go to shades& with the parable of the good
Baseritan, or any of the other parables, unless you impress
Wm with the conviction that He who spoke them was more
than a mere man, that be was the true and eternal
Boa of the living God. It was from that truth that the
eltriatisn precepts derived their force, and it was by belief is
that rely that they could hope to regenerate mankind. This
bill may be regarded as to its details or its principle. He
should rather discuss it as to its principle, but its details
were so weighty, bore so much as the general question, and
were so capable of rifatetioe, that ha should enter into one
Of two poists to show that the hon. member for Oldham
was iao IMO in his statements. The first position
that the hon. gentleman took was that noon comparison,
the number of people receiving instruction in this country
was inferior to that of say country on 'be continent. Now,
he would take the ease of reunite. The hon. gentlearia
stated that in Prussia every one is six received education,
bat that in Bepaad it was said that only one in every eight
and a half received education, and that he believed that if
the thing were man closely inquired into it would be found
that not more than one In every thirteen got Inattention.
Been supposing this to be correct, the hon. gentleman did
not maintain his positioo, for with regard to Prussia they
hat before them, every individual, trona the highest trade
to the lowest, who received education; whereas in this
eoluary those who received education is the wairiesities and
in private schools were not before them Ind they bed
only the numbs,' of thine who received instruo.
Lion in what were called the eleemosynary establishments.
In Prussia the proportion of the populatioa whose education
was sot paid for by the state was 1.2.6 th, whereas in England
it was one-third, and the differ/ass should be placed to the
credit of Beglaad. This fallacy ran through the whole
theory. There was no country Noel to Borland in its exer-
tions to give independent ideation, and the house should
take care that in making it a bu.ioros of the atate they dial
sot py tip all the sources from which at present so much
advantage was derived. He very much doubted whether,
even is Prairie, cue-sixth of the people were eelueated. Hs
held a his head • return from several of its peat tows', end
taking tea of the largest he found the overage to be, not one
in aix, hat one in aloe, and he very meek doubted whether
in a .y lowa the former number would be found to be the
average. Bar, independent of this, he thought he should
be able to show that • greater prop.rtion or the children
received location is Beglood than in Priori& The po-
pulation cf the two countries being nearly the seam' the
average of ate is sis, the hon. menhir for o:dhain's
average, would give two and a half millions educated in
Prussia, and if you added the number educated by private
means to too potion receiving ektimosynary education in
England, you would find the number to ha nearly the same.
H. would &Noma that then were about 400,000 children in
Ragland usprovided for by existing institutions, such as the
nauoaal sad os.gregational school*, and requiring eloesnosy-
aary education and let him ask whether there were not
other can es than deficiency of schools to pr them
attending. II they waoted to carry on • more extended sptem
of enucatton,they mot revue their whole system of infantile
management. They must recollect that there were numbers
of children employed in the metropolis, and in the great
manufacturing towns, from ten to eighteen hours a day,
who could not pcwaibly be expected to attend airy
school. (Hear, hear.) Look at Birmingham. Waiver-
hamptoo, Nottingham, and Liverpool, and the other great
towns, and they would fled that the great majority of the
children, from five years old upwards, were employed 10,
12, and sometimes 18 hours a day. (Hear, bear.) The
oonrinissionere appointed to inquire into the nature and ex-
tent of infantile employment in the year 1842 said : " In-
stances occur In which children begin to wort so early as,
five years old." (The noble lord was here interrupted by'
the bum of amortisation in the home. He apologised for
wearying the home with details, but they were absolutely
necessary to his argument.) The commissioners continued :
" Ressler emploement 'outmanned at seven or eight, and of
the whole number employed there was a much greater am-
ber from Bto 13 thew from 13 to 18." Hs would beg the
serious attendon of the hosts to the oosclusiou to which the

ocaunissionen had come. They said : "Were schools ever
so abundant and excellent, they would be wholly beyond
the reach of the large proportion of children employed in
habitat, en account ot the early age at which they are pat out
to work." (Hear, bear.) If, then, they wanted to follow
oat the plan of the hon. member for Oldham, they must
beg= with making attendeeee sompuleory, and making
W offense penal whoa a certain portion of
time wee mot given in attendance on public
instruction. The boa. and learned member for Sheffield
said that the ragged schools were • symptom of the evil con-
' dition of the Eases. They were a symptom, but they were
also symptoms of a great effort to counteract that condition—
(hear, hear)—and they were a farther proof that any attempt
to educate the people is other than • religious foundation
would be atterle useless. The boa. member for Oldham
seemed to think that crime in all eases was attributable to
want of edasations. There was no doubt but that ignorance
was often the sour= of crime ; bat there were Inlay ether
sources rum which it sprang. (Hear, bear.) Want of em-
pl.iyment, the =edition in which people lived. their wretched
habitatioas, and sanitary and somal wants, demoralised the
families of the poor, as to nadir it almost impossible to re.
form the children, no matt= how good might be the school.
(Hear, hear.) He did not hesitate to say that so long es
we left our peat =was in their present unitary and
sepal soodition, all hope of Mena among the chi'.
drat =mkt be pety futile. (Hear, hear.) Look at
W preehisoo of the The 'appestats were to have the
pawed -44ps•time • salad in the klagdom, whether
isemassoldwillithe =lush of leglaad or with say ocher de-
seeninethae Cdr fell power teleasthre with the regulations
.saley estiblibmost. Eton, Booby, or the Chaves-house,
ast be lump*, a
lt
they received no assistance
from the state ; and these i, having' finished Welt
tour, were to submit their plantse Privy Comma Then
it provided that an eamatiebsi ansmittee was to be sp-
pdkted by the ratepayers "hi" wee te direst the overseen
trlevy • rate. Theo leeks' tbellnamelal impost of the ques
tion. The gat effect OW levy of rates would be the ea.
Mahe of all Ipsal Okra He had asked a Clergyman of
his esquelateaso to test the sleet of a* mew= to his own
=rib, which anteimed • hpjededelt Of 11,680; y hot
parish the rate wait be 10,4fted ; emd the sus
proportion, and allwerag the population of and
Wales to be 16,000.11. the when sant levied en ibis =en-
try would be 3,200,11101. (Hsu, betel
He weeddnit object
to that son for an oilman= betel vat =Beek hat he
should eartaltrehjoill to ft *e lbe asidremil morel
=War huger But It wet not ea fla • be based
his oppositicsa. • objected to it, es he to every other
bill of the Mad whisk did sot make raglan the basis of its
education. It was sot aseneary to eaten into the question
of whether the church of England woe the =thorned
nligioe of the people; that subject might be touched wpm
hereafter. Bat the question was a queen= he anterior to
the established =web, whether or no Christianity shall be
maintained in this country. He had not heard a single
reason why religios should be severed from secular selotation.
It was urged that religion:should he left to private teaching
that might be Salivated when education tress only from
private efforts, but when the state sauna= the task tiny
should found it is that principle whisk worsile Important
thwi all the rat. He could not'
seemed the earls With
obi= be looked at this bill. He Gould not see on what pre-
modest it =aid be supported. It the object of education was
to mike people good eitisees, he could not canon= how
that object was to be afflicted without instruction in the
word of Clod. If they adopted any other principle, they
would be throwing away what had lasted this country
through as many ages, and, whatever might be our halts,
bad made us what we were—the best and freest portion of
the human nee. Ha had been very much struck
on his meat visit to Paris with the general conviction

I impressed by all reeks sad classes of the people, that it was
sothialisbut . the pervading spirit of reflects chit bad
'lead safely through all the recent troubles be
rtustiaps. Meer, hear.) The swedes .had been pre-
paraded on that day, sad they Rust decide—" Choose
this day whom ye shall serve." He could only answer for
himself, hot he beiieved he might also SUMP, for meaty
others is this country, "As fee me and my bow, we will
serve the Led." (Chem.)
Mr. MIL)1111 wished te dkeneember this question trees
all sztreseem sessideratiene, mad to dismal tee bill bolero
the has. smielly es • question et prieelple. That ydadiple
es lui Maddlehlddlt sees up-vy MON MIN ism
'debates te that mus. se iler as molar
edissethei OW shish remeised mdse ell the
mei= di Weirs Tim gamin wee mut
wb psi* dwell Benin • anabiaed seripsuml
mid NNW edeenties,.hut whether the sombiaed system
twin se he hied, we *mid act, Is some way es or
KIM, attempt to remedy the evil. They bad the eaussityof
the Primate u to the hapseimes et premmieg a good edam-
vow. sad her Majesty '• *oversew bet attempted to .em
bush a system In 150 ; bat • sembiattes of perms of
the most different religious eydelem trail delheded ibsir
praiseworthy purpose. He add mmew ale MIN Act It
was with great pain he had given up the Imme of meted the
people educated solely by the &Vie, et the various religiose
droominstris. He regretted, that the more, se he bedeved
that of all means the religiose would be the most *Memel
He believed that religious Memnon might be serried oat in
all its fulness sad stnyllidly without in the slightest degree
Menhir's; wish the mislay instruction of the community.
He bad meetly laid a detainee% on the table of the homes
with reference to Juvenile criminals, and he could mot for
the life of him understaad how those who perused it
could reconcile it with their dent to God gad mate to
permit thaw children to perish iatallectually sad morally.
(Grim of " Divide.") He would conclude by imploring of
hoe. gentlest's opposite to temper their seal oa this sub-
ject, and to see that it was perfectly practical to educate
secularly a portico of the people without at the same time
testiest any imputatioa whatever on the religious system. He
hoped the noble Iced at the head of the government, and his
'elk/agues, would not recklessly throw away this opportunity
without pledging themselves to take the subject into con-
sideration.

Lord J. RIISSELL.—Intha first play I must my, notwith-
standing some allegation. that have beau made, that I thin[
there is still • lamentable want of odscation of the poorer
closes in this country, and that it still remain. a desirable
object for parliament so promotes further means of educes-
then for this people. (Hear, hear.) In the next place, sir,
I must say that I thlok an unjust infernos* would be drawn
from the words used by my noble friend who seconded the
motion for the OO4lolld reading of the bill this day six
Menthe-1 think an unjust inherence would be drawn from
skit he said if it were concluded that if we were to mom
like schools where none but stealer teaching should be
Winkled, it should follow is • neetemary consequence that
Ilbi media; of amain authors would be at all prevalent or
pogslest wags the teachers is those schools. I own I very
meek dash' whether, if parliament were to declare that
esetels schools should be established, and that secular du-
et's only should be permitted la thee. schools—l very
isnish doubt whether giving the ordinary education of reed
kite wraing, geography, and history, that must be taught,
yam would find that with the prevailing habit'', the prevail-
ing opinions, of the people of this country, there would be
as inclination to adopt those author. a. the standard of
Oak creed and belief, aad whether they would not go, either
in the clergyman of the established church, or to the minister
ammo demoting body, to obtain from him their religious
ialloruction, rather than obtain it from each authors as
mg noble friend hes alladed to. (Hear, hear.) But now,
making this admission, it does, I think, remain that it is a
Noy grave question for this house whether they should de-
alers that there shall be schools established upon this prim
alpite, laid down in an sot of parliament, that in the schools
se established the Instruction which shall be secular caly
shall be taught. (Hear, hear.) I own I cannot but think
that any education on inch a bails must be lamentably deft
Oak. (Cheers.) I cannot but think that nothing but the
meet 'boates necessity should oblige parliament to come to
such a conclusion. I cannot but think that to establish by
Woliolose—to establish,'" it wore, we smatter of choice—ea
missalkii .for the children of this country, in which religion
sbonid be entirely excluded—(hear)—in which the immortel
pea Wawa should be altogether forgotten—(bear, bear)—
annaot but think that such a principle, so astsblished,
without an absolute necessity, would be a grievous falling off
in ear owe duty both to our religion and to God. (Loud
Wens) Now, sir, I con imagine that there may be places
whew such a amulet education may be the only education
then kpomible. And I can imagine, auppoeing it were
mimoabla to have public rat. a for the support of educa-
tion levied b 3 • tam—that if the inhabitants of a oafish
were so divided by religious distinctions, that they should
NOM to the conclusion that it was impossible even to
admit the reading of the bible in the schoo's which
they should establish, and that it was impos-
sible for them to agree on any mode of religious
teaching whatever—that the state should say that in that
emergency, that in that extremity, it was better to give
secular teaching to the children than to omit !secular iodise.
lion altogether, and that to each ind.vidusle should be corn
=hod the power of founding a school of secular actuation.
But the propositions contained in this bill differ as widely as
pollinate from the proposition I have just stated. Tee bill,
I own, appears to me to be as despotic—I hear, hear)—to be
as contrary to all freedom of choice—(hear, bear)—to be as
little conformable to the usu.' liberty which is showed to
Englishmen upon these subjects—(hear, heir)—es any
bill that it hes to en my fortune to see intro-
duced into parliament. (Cheers.) Sir, the course
which this bill take. is not a little singular sad
remarkable. Is the first place, the inspector appointed by
the Committees of Privy Council, who his the confidence of
the Committee of Privy Council, who may have GI. ms] not
have the confidence either of the church of England, of the
British and Foreign School Society, or of the It man
catholic body—who may have the confidence of one of these
bodies, or who may have been appointed inspector without
any such testimonial—ha is to state in hie report wheth. r
there is an adeq lacy or inadequacy of macular instruction in
any particular parish. It is nut stated that he is to gn by
any rule in framing that report. He is not bound to say
that there are 500 children In the parish and that nit more
than 100 of them go to any &dial His discreti,o is far
more unlimited, is far more wide, because he is to state
whether the provisions of each polish to affsrd secular edu-
cation are adequate to the wants of the entire population,
" regard being had to the effect of every exclusion from in-
struction, whether arising from the expense of schooling,
from peculiar or epeeist religious teaching adopted in coy
school, or from any other cause whatsoever." Why, it
would depend entirely upon the opinions of this inspector,
with respect to the exclusions, wnether or not be would
report that the institution given was adequate. (Hear.)
Tao next stop is—the committee of privy conned are to hone
as ceder to the overseers of a parish, and the overseers
Jihall immediately have an educational committee appsinted
lot that pariah. Here is no option left—no choice for the
parish, but they must appoint immediately the educational
committee. (Hear, hear) The educational comici•tee,
again, are to take into consideration the state of the parish—
they are to raise rates for the fornishiogof an amount of 10s.
per head for gratuitous illairliOtiOD in any school, and they
are to found schools in shish gratuitous instruction shall be
given, and that gratuitous instruction to be solely of a secular
kind. Why, sir, we must consider that we are here dealing
with a country in which many schools have been established,
and schools which, however they may differ, amorally agree
in cue principle, and that principle a totally opposite
one to that adopted In this bilL (Hear, hear.) We
have the schools connected with the Notional Society, which
require that the children shall go to church en Sundays,
and that they shall be instructed is the catechism and tor.
malarial of the established church. We have the Wes-
leyan' who teach the Bible in their schools, and who teach
likewise the catechism, bat who do not 'Deist on that
catechism being taught in cases where parents ma objet,
bat who only insist on the reading of the Bible. We have
the British and Foreign School Society, In the third place,
which orders the reading of the Bible, makes the reading of
the Bible indispensable, but does not admit into its school.
any catechism or formulary of any religious body.,
We have the Roman Catholic schools again, which are
under the direction of their own priesthood, according
to who*, views and opinions subjects of secular instruction
are mixed up with religious, and conducted Recording to the
religious views and opinion of the clergy. Here we have
many difference'. I have stated to you, without going
through the congregetionallete and other dissenting bodies,

manjdifferences in the mode of conducting these schools,
bat through them all there pervades this principle—that, as
the opinions and esnatiences of those who sew-
Waal there arbooh, each who give their own labour end
time peastete thole Meals religion is the principle
theme. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) Well, then, I
do say that if such be the ease—if each are
, the prevailing °Oakes of the people of this
coontry —it is too much to come forward with
a scheme which shall pledge the ratepayers of any
parish to give money tar the sappers of the rebook to be
established by this measure. In such a use, where schools
now are gratuitous schools, it would moat probably deazroy
them altogether; for, by requiring so iamb money to be
paid in rates for the secular schools, volentary gifts would
setae any longer to be devote! to educational purposes.
(Hear, hear.) Why, air, what is the feeling which has bee*
excited by this proposition ? I will not say, what is the
feeling among the church ? will mot mend= other bodies,
bat I will mention one, as a sample of the feeling excited—l
'allude to the °Onion expressed by the Wesleyan committers.
(Hear, hear.) The, protest split* this measure. They my,
" The shade's whom it may be deemed aseessuy to educate in
whole or to part at the public exposer, are (equally with all
taken In more favoured ciressataaces) Immoral beings.
Aay system of instruction which does not regard them in
that light, and deal with th. it highest and most enduring
relations, must ever be viewed by these sosamittees (the
United Committee. of Privileges end Riesetioa) as essen-
gaily deketive, sad ea/eelated by its omission to exert a
most dangerous legumes ea thesewhe receive it." (.. Hear"
and cheers.) I believe, air, that that opinion of the Wee-
laying is the opinion that Is likely to be entertained by others
engaged in the great :nutter of education: and, there-
for*, I say, in the first place, agreeing with the
honourable 'agleam who repotted the rejectioa
of this bill—do not interfere with the cooscientioes
liberty of these great bodies in this country, whether
they be the chunk or the bodies dissenting from
the dunk; do not interfere with their free liberty of actin,
bat allow them to *adieus the education of which they have
hitherto been distemper/eters. (Loud cheats.) In the next
place, se I have matt, I think the odseatiou that you toeld
glee witbeni religion—thee/A it might be in extremity you
would permit it in certain esees—mast be exceedingly in-
ferior to any education which rdmits the teaching of the
Bible. (Renewed cheers.) I cannot but think that it would
he a great fault la Instreaties, when you are providing by
bill sad law foe the instreedee of the people of this countey,
if you were not to Worm them of eke great and leading

truths of ritligles, and that, when you are teaching moral
doctrines, you( less nine-tents s of the force with which those
*oral doctrines can be inculcated when you do not toll them
at the same time them are the peen pie given by divas en
thority, will* have received divine sanction, and span
which their eternal welfare or misery depends. (Loud
cheers.) But, sir, Wien you shall have established these
schools, what eau you expect shall be the result ? I cannot
but think, aeserding to what I have steady stated, that
there would be, in the first plate, • very great diseourage-
! meat given to all those who are now ocen?led in
taechieg in the schools supported by voluntary efforts.
I aridity nide read the bon. gentleman who proposed this
bill to say, when he asked for leave to introduce it, that
the And and main object would be, the supporting by rates
the sehoula already misting, and that any school, to be
added would be supplementary, and would be an addition to
the existing schools. But, I own I cannot read this bill
without delimitate, that It is Intended that these secular
schools are to he a substitute for the existing abode.
(Herr, hears) And, sir, bow are the people of this country
who wish to avoid establishing such schools—lf this bill
were to Memo low, and you were to suppose the committee
of the Privy Council agreeing to the plan here laid down—
how are the people of this country who may still retain
their opinions in favour of religious instruction, who may
retain their love fur the old teachers and established schools,
how are they to retain the power of maintaining th, se
atolls, and refusing the establishment of the secular schools?
t" Hear, hear," sad applause,) I find this bill is so framed,
that there remains no mode of escape, because, at the end
of this bill, if, after the order has gone out to the overseers
of the pariah, the educed anal committee shall not pertain
its duties—if it shall not do what is here prescribed, why,
then, it shell be lawful for the committee in coutc.l
to " undertake to supply the deficiency of provision
for secular educative by the establishment of a
free school or schools, under the act, and to exer-
cise the powers given to the educatiossl commime."
Why, sir, here is a power given to the Committee of Privy
Council in these few words to force upon the people of every
parish In England the v: ry schools according to this scheme
and form, and to levy upon them such rates cr taxes as the
Committee of Privy Council may think necessary for this
object. (Cheers.) Why here is a power which, I must repeat,
is a despotie power which we ought not to grant. (Cheers
Sir, seeing that the hill is framed differently from what 1
expected, and certainly in a manner which I cannot believe
will be in conformity with the opinions or the wishes of
the people of this country, I feel myself compelled to votefor the amendment moved by the has, member for North-
amptonshire (ldr. Stefford). I must again repeat that I du
not think the means provided for education In this country
are such that we ought to rest raddled with what has b. en
done ; and I think it would be mat desirable if we could
obtain, before we went any further upon this subject,
ful er information than pediment now possesses as to the
means of education now existing and as to the school,
width have been established since the year 1833, the date ot
the last 'catenation we obtained on the subject. (Htar,
hear.) I think it most desirable likewise to ascertain, where
there is a deficiency of education, if that deficiency arises
Mom a want of school, to which parents might send their
children, RR arises from the poverty of the district, or from
the employment of the children continuously, as has been
stated, and at so early an are, that thin is no time for
giving them education. luformatien on these subjects is
still much wanted. (Hear.) It we obtain that information
we can then again r consider this subject. That it is a sub-
ject full of difficulties no man will deny. When the right
hon. gentleman the member for Ripoa (Sir J. Graham)
was Secretary of State f6r the Home liepartment, and when
he brought forward a scheme for the education of a limited par
of the country, for that part of the population I think engaged
in factories, I bailed hie effort as one likely to be enamel:l,ly
useful. But there arose so much opposition to that scheme,
that the right hon. gentleman, wi.h all the care he applii el
to modify it, completely faded in seta) ing the ohjec ions to
It, and he was obligel, very properly, to relinquish the plan.
A great part of the objevi, as to that scheme was, that the
parties were apprehensive that the freedom of education, as
Men existing, would be:interfered with. One dissenting tsin4.
ter in Lancashire toad me at that time that there were 2,000
children being educated in his district by volunaey
contributions, and that he was afraid, if the scheme
paned, these voluntary contributions would cease. I
think it is impossible for the house to consent to the
present bill; and In Bait g I cannot consent to vote
for the 'aunt reading of the bill, I must observe that
my desire fn the general educatioa of the people r f this
country is by no means diminished in reel and intensity.
But my wish is —it was the wish of • sovereign of this
country-1 wish above all things that if we enable the
people of this country to receive instruction, we may enable
them to read the Bible—(cheers)—that they may receive
it at an early age, wt en they are first beginning
to learn the lessons of morality, and that In the instrue•ion
imparted to them the Holy Scriptures should not ba given
them merely as a present when they grow up, to diminish
its importance in their eyes, and to make it be looked upou
by them only as an object of rennet. (Loud chests )
Mr. HUME said he considered it a matter of nectuity
that psrliao.nt should step in and supply the defitiency in
our educational system which at present existed. lie ap-
proved of the bill now before the house, because he east.
dared it the right of every min to be educated, aril
the duty of property to impart education to the poor
and the unlearned. Ile detn.y regretted the speech which
had just been addressed to the house by the noble lord (J.
Russell), because that speech was contrary to the whole
tenour of Vis noble lord's general conduct, and bemire it
was hopeless to expect the bill to be successful, while such
opinions were entertained by the prime minister of England.
The Marquis of BLANDFORU opposed the bail. H.
contended that no arguments drawn from reason or .ec.rary
,uld be adduced it, favour of the measure, and that secular
education would tend to undermine the institutions ot the
country.

Mr. ANSTEY rose amidst cri.s of " divide," and moved
that the &Mits.!). adjourned to to-morrow (this day) wrt•
night, which motion waa put and agreed to.

KIDDERMINSTER ELECTION.
The hen. members appointed to try the merits of the
petition presen-ed &Rehm the election for Ktddermins:ir,
apprarea at the bar, and were duly sworn.

HIGHWAYS (SOUTH WALES) BILL
Lord EHLYN having moved the second reading of this
bill,

Mr. C. LEWIS said he would not object to the s coed
reading, it being understood that he was not pledging him-
self to the lbrtht r stages of the bill, if it should be found
that there was no general wish ex reseed in favour of it in
South Wales or it it should be the opinion that the II gh-
ways Bill he had Introduced could be advantagismsly applied
to that part of the country.
The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be
commi t ed.

LIFE POLICIES OF ASSURANCE (No. 2.) BILL.
Tuts bill puma throne. committee proforma.

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WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.
Sir J. DUCK WORTH obtained leave to bring ins bill
to amend the law relating to weights and measures.
BURGESS LISTS.—CORPORATE TOWNS.
Mr. I'. HODGES obtained leave to bring in • hill for
repealing so mac% of an act of the sth and 6th Wm. IV., Lis
relates to the revision of the burgess hats in corporate
b 'roughs in England and Wale, and for making more
effoctual prevision for that purpose.
The bill was brought in and read a first time, and the
house adjourned at half-put five o'clock.

TAXES ON KNOWLEDGE.—Mr. Raikes Carrie paired
in 1 of Mr. litlner Gibson's resolution with Mr. Henry
Currie against.

STANDING ORDERS COMNITTEE.—This committee
have decided that the standing orders maybe dispensed wi'h
in the following eases aerkeawall Improvement, Ship-
wrecked Fishermen and Mariners' Benevolent Society, and
Edinburgh National Gallery Bill. That they be not
dispensed with in the ease of the Birmingham Improvement
Bill, and the Leeds and Halifax Road Bill.

KIDDERMINSTER ELECTION.—The General Com-
mittee of Elections hare appointed the following members •
select committee to try the petition complaining of an undue
election and return for Kiddermintter: Viscount EArld.
Kr. A. S;•fford, Mr. D. Morrie, ffir W. Jolliffe, and 11 In.
E. P. Bound*. u chairman.

Despatches were received yesterday, in the Colo-
nial-office, from the 03 Mll'llolll of Via DiMlle/ Lend, Li-
tman, and Wag Hong.
BRITISH LADI6B' FR MALE EMIORaNT SOCIETY.—
On Tneeday the fret annual meeting of this seakety took niece
at Willis's Rooms, King.street, St. James's. The Duke of
A
Argyll presided. The Hon. rthur Hinnaird, one of the
treasurers of the society, read the report, which contained
• succinct statement of the origin and objects of the society.
The &andel statement showed that the reeeire to the
30th Much, 1830, amounted to 1,0701., and the expenditure
equalled .hat sum. The report and resolutions having teen
adopted the meeting repeated, with the anal tribute of
thanks to the chairman.

WRITILIANDS TRAINING INSTITUTION FOR SCHOOL-
oilinfisallirta,ar:4Bl.tiowabwuy—inili:selbricuirstattoaltHP:l4:4r-malifrineguthßoomiisastiliautitoefnEwthisiasrl
founded by the National Society is 1842, fee the purpose of
eduesting young women for midstream'
.0 parocki.l and
national schools; bat these sad other sundae eseablishotents
having become too heavy a burden on the society's funds,
were now thrown oa their own resat-or, and the object
of this meeting was to enlist public sympathy oa b. halt of
the Whittlends Institution. Sines its consammomeat, 163
young woman bad completed
. their education, and been ap-
pointed to schools tiontanang front 50 to 200 children each, sad
the clergy under whom they were working bad borne the
highest teetimony to their conduct and qualifications; 75
young women were now in training. During the last three
years the pupils had been annually czansined by the govern-
ment inspectors of schools, and the committee of council had
granted 78 certificates of merit. The inspectors had reported
most favourably of the efficiency of the iastitutton, but
stated that the amaraintodati in at present afforded- was not
sufficient for the number of the inmates. Tee council of
Whitelaads had accordingly had plane prepared for improv-
ing the lament building., and they had every reason to hope
fora grant wow government in aid of that object. But a
sum of at least 3,00 W. w. aid have to be raised by private
ematributions, and the annual subscriptions increased to
8004., before the council would feel themselves warranted in
carrying out their plans. The Bishops of Lichfield, St
Araph, and Os:ord, the Rev. Sir Henry Dukinficlif, 11.
Ifisnshard, , and other clergymen and stadium,
then addressed the meeting, and resolutions is scoordancs
with its object baring been adopted, the proceedings ter-
minated.