The Express.
London, England, 1850-02-22 00:00:00

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thee the while sinks may be apes, to go at
ems to the resdnies of ask I ie set aka it who to
deals sew that the whole et the ramikies ahead he gives
a all peeper% end Med yes shall pada* per-
mit haa kg as tint ban Mei* am the ether.
At le the leaded Metal, ken is Ise **set et
that her bees Wand le he a ammithe the
it Leeds whisk wee app elect fir the egedsl purpeee ass-
the Masao s had--ead I met regent the w-
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toes her. seateur he Ilashiesham es thissilPZ
bemuses he ha tell us this whet e azieselesr
mealy tike he the end baled 'regattas mad orkeeeNals
bat to the IM9 peso= eke ems mimed le Ism to
interest in leed. Mew an those posswaso leseledimS
the taus sew is brae with resale to Issas? It is
by the seamieles ed the Heim et Leek, that ea • Male
the taa is 124 re .at, ea 1081. soh kis 6 per ask, mud
above the sum of 1001. it cal, eases* le 1 per teat. ; and
they state father, from as Smidgens et Kr. Baxter,
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kr 1001. mortgage it would sea IM., sal kr MOM It
would an Ilk Therefore it myna keit this smell pre•
pastor, who should wish to mengage to the sass* of 8114
woad ham so lem M per =law pay upea
bk property kw shape sad
whilst die Area isangsge proprietor who
to eacetepige kis property t. the acted el 120,0004 weeid
bare se Naas this 12e. to pay. Whim the isonsueelk
seemlier wee albs the ettionWa of the MEN to 200,011
small cal lailegoadeat yam's, it was set aseistest with
that peeptaliks to ask this house le rate to a reeeisties
waif -weak esikely pealed. the gaseessest sad veil
prided, Mistime ikon estatainhig peepeaties witch
woad lest le Masi& the gnat sad esenrigiatm boa
des Ma Owe was apes these small I will sow
Ark to war taxes, to whisk both Milt himeeskie
wise spoke lot sad the = agist_heassialde Irk member for Rips have anode' ;
bats Mar•
ime MAK whisk fell fnn the hosessraile goadeseas the
member for Rips of whisk I meet take sake, brawl
thick then am apprehosimis entereand which might pia
dervery serious -alma Yeas of war seissim—l tees thp
et the sight hos. radials that a tax might hi
itiri=ages Weald deers. I will set disease the gem-
tiss ishetheir yr she it It possible, or whether It is adviasbk,
to redeem the dap es heap timber, bet this I must al,
that parlienest, fa Malberately roduleg thedety to Is., sat
Canada, width is seek aseereadi k the duty, An
mitered greatly hese Me expeasika whisk
had out by the is et 1843, that a
to a great =tat at this muter Ise era would be
to Canada. There are ether emaderallems Whisk haw
set 1t... mash adverted to in the aune es akin
dakeik with regard to the ezposditure which would hi is.
raised fonder this proposed treader. We know very well
that so keg r the matter of establishment' ere sada lead
ttrirrthough they toad to meant* the legal teem
n'
strong reason for vigilance" whisk it weal be
very difficult for a pubtle board seek or the per
law somunisidowin to emends,. (Hear, hear.) Then
le wry gnat due that the expiates all be very mak
parsed. Hat Wks' that, there Is a pert the proposal
of Ms hes. pothers the aembet tor Breda Malley
le Me leseder to the Falls remain whisk I
ow Ihe with eery aesidemsble surprise. It le that et
the mad per. (Hew, beer.) Now, if any one dare
pea in.. than another would lease ea increase to
the nessilitsee hem agligeses sad want of control, it Is
ea* list et die awieripier ; tad I will show you free a
astemest width hoboes mask this house with regard albs
boners of per law ribragoe, what has hum the fames,
with ngasd to the imend poor, It was dated by Mr.
Ward, wises member for Sheikh, that the casual par of
kat lowa had caused an Menage is the expenditure in the
awn et stow years of hem 13,0001. to 60,0001.. and I task he
eased that the increase was in the ratio of 28,000 la IMO, et
MANI la 1841, and of 62,000 in 1642. (11ser.) I wake
OW that statement did not allude merely to casual pier,
hat the rapid increase from 13,0001. to 50,0001. closely its
la what way a charge of this kind may be increased Is a
few pen. How would it be porible for my right hen
(dead the President of the Poor-law Board, ooaducting,ei he
does, and as is generally acknowledged, the duties of his aka
with seek great ear* and ability—how would it be pool*
fur him to Mite at the amount of expenditure incurred forks
maistensace of the wend poor sou to make any rotors age
M. entiket. Well, then, if it is net advisable on the averei
ad the charges to be thus transferred, or of the *spews of
the transfer, or the coaaequent raisossnagesthat, there is still
another part of the statement of the hon. gentleman which
he and oaten very clearly made, and whisk I think deserves I
the most serious consideration. 'The hos. podium stated
that that wee the first of a series of rewilations, The
adds MA the member for Colchester (Lord John
Mereere), Add that this was not the debt, bat oily
• ponies of the debt, which was owing to the
landed interest. (Hear, hear.) Is the house pre.
pared to take the first sup in this direction with the &barna.
dye either of carrying out or of refusing the latter measure
in whisk the hes. gentleman referred. (Hear.) The right
Ma. patients, the member for Oxford (Mr. Gladstone),
mid be be sure that it is the usual way of persons who oppose
any reform, to say that it will lead to other namoures. But
the right hon. gentleman refers to what is said by the oppo-
nents of • measure ; this is said by one of the authors of
the useasure, by the very person who brings it forward.
et Hear, hear," and laughter.) Lit us can et what these
measure. are. The hon. gendeman the member for Bucks
presented a Rstition to-night from Buckingham, or some
place in its neighbourhood, which I suppose has been drawn
up in support of hie motion, and °miming opinions to which
he anent'. The petitioners pray that you will give them
especially effectual relief by assenting to such matures as
I shall entail on real property the payment of • fair and just
proportion of the eeeee us of the country. Bat they do not
stop them. Tbsy proceed to ask for sect measures as shall
render competition equal at least with the foreigner by raking
la portion of the ravenus from forsian importations. Now,
these words mean, se I understand them, a duty upoa all
articles of importation, especially the article corm. (Hear.)
This is, therefore, • proposition Weida is to lead us here-
after—first. to • mach farther and more extensive transfer
of the burdens on tenderising from the poor rates to the Con-
solidated Fund ; and, in the next plate, to • return and re-
, vied of protection. The right hon. gentleman the member
'for Oxford (Mr. Gladstone) has treated this part of the
I subject la a manner that has very much surprised
am The right hon. manna stated that if
the hasp adopted this proposition it would reduce
tdn eakatum for the restoration of protection. I lover beard
wriems a consequence, and I cannot imagine how giving
a eletery so the persons who are desirous of a return to
Crtiiwill weary their arms, or quiet and induce
: refrain from further aditation. (Hear, hoer.)
I think, notwithstanding all that the tight honourable gen-
tleman (Mr. Gladstone) has said, that it is w-
holly dear that the person who should have the
sesautiog of that masons, and should tarry first a
resolation to go into a committee of the whole house, and
nest, a measure that is to disturb, and afterward's to regu-
late anew the whole finances of the nada'. I say It is
perfectly clear that that person should be in of-
fios as • zniabter under the crown. (Hear,
hear.) It will be contrary to all precedent that we
should attempt to carry it into greet. The hoc. gentlemen
opposite, then, with Lord Stanley, in their official
position, will then, of course, propped to satisfy
tile times& of sair friends in the country, and
there le say truth in the report would speedily demand
a !shwa to the protective system. And the hos. gentle.
tees so doubt would very soon propose mate further
swans for the restoration of the import duties on articles
ken which the right hon. gentleman opposite (Sir H.
Peel) induced parliament to remove them. When the
ben. amber introduces such a proposition, the right hon.
gluttonies (Sir it. Peel) will, I conclude, oppose it, and if
die right hon. gentleman were siateasiul in that op-
position, in which I should join him, for it
"MUM for • moment be samosa' that having gained the
bet stop, they will really be content with the Witliag con-
mission to their wishes ; and if that step should be taken
which is so often talked about, and with so little delicacy,—
I mean a dissolution of parliament—the subject which the
right boo. hart opposite (Sir R. Peel) has declared to Is I
more fittingly discussed is debate in this Mew will he
tractferred to all the hastier of the country, mil I theedd
like to know with what effect ? Sorel: not that Arid se
by the right hon. member for Gaited (Mr. Glableta4
should imagine that the rank wet of lam* be
great increase in the *talks sod ammelhaof
the agricultural interest for the sildensmt thsir
objects. (Hear.) My right hos. hind, lin other sight,
quoted returns which showed how goat bad bees
the diminution of the burdens landed
interest slam 1813. (Hear, hoer. In
at those returns I find that while in 1816 Ludwig=
property charged for the relief of the poor was as mete
nine, in 1849 it was as one to fifteen, that is tabbies
whole of the real property, not making a &dudes
between the land and other kinds of real pgeperq.
If that be the case' and if land has at the seas tines
iseremed in value I beg the house to consider whore thh
aleviation of their burdens has seism. It has arisen from
nothing but the imams of the wealth of the cautery, from
the intros's in the manufactures, common* ad indoatry
of country. ("Hear, hear," and cheers!) I believe se
that source has been, from 1815 to 1849, so gnat a relief, If
Me commerce and manufacturse of the country continue to
flourish that their burden will be still further relieved by
in tha first place, those who are engaged in commerce ad
anaufsetures Umiak a great part of the burdens, and la
the next place by thew having the best market in the woad
ready at hand at which to dispote of their agricultural
produce of all kinds. (Cheers.) Such I Delete' to be the
true interests of agriculture; such I believe to be the tree
interests of the landed interests of this country. (Load
cheers.) If, on the other hand, they take
the advice of s noble duke, sad say we will
not attempt to farm high, or to lay eat
money on our Lad, and by which we shall improve it, bat
that we will tarn our attention to a political speculatka
and see if we cannot get a new parliament, a restored= et
protection, I believe, instead of that flourishing earllthea,
they will keep the country in agitation, and that the allevia-
tions I have mentioned will not have the effort
which, under other circumstances, they might. But 1
have no doubt, although I think the landed
interests of the country have been of late misled ia the views
which they take of their own condition and interests, I I
say I have no doubt that in a short time they will set with
the spirit of a certain celebrated shipowner, who last year
wrote ably In f of the navigation laws, and whose latter
has been quoted in the house, I mean Mr. Lindsay; bat who
sow says the navigation laws are gone ; let us set with the
Nada d Itaglitbarr, let us ice if we puma get better Ben
to essaand our ships, if we cannot build our vessel,
shaper and of improved construction, and try
If if we
MOOS stand • competition with the whole world.
Mat is the csee—if the shipowner has to send hie ships
ewer the seas to the remotest parts of the world—what is
Mere to prevent the agiioultural interest from competing, at
home tad dose to their own doors, with any foreigners