The Express.
London, England, 1850-02-02 00:00:00

SESSIONAL ORDERS.

TLe SPEAKER then read the emeisseal orders of last
maim, disposing of them ser.atim. On striving at the par-
ti near order which prohibits the bringing forward of amend-
ments on the order of the day,
Et ME moved the postponement of the clause, which
prohibited en ansenilmint bein4 moved upon the question of
the orlon of the day. His object was a:platted by the hon.
mishit to be the restoration of the popular privileges of
that assembly, which had been encroached upon by the
chis-zes efiret-d two years sines, when the country was in
great mann placed at the mercy of ;government as to the
time when questiors of public importance were to be brought
*a for diongisioa.

Alter a miarelleneons conversation, in the course of which
End J. RCSRELL and Mr. Baornaarox spoke la favour of
the extet:ap method of artnamag the bushiest of the house
a dirdioa took plum, and dm motion of the hon. member for
Mon:roes was tiegatived by a majority of 151 to 81 votes.
The risottos was thea agreed to. The remaining semioaal
orders were agreed to.
ADDRESS.—ADJOURNED DEBATE ON LORDS
COMMISSIONERS' SPEECH.

The Marquis of GRANBY, in addressing the louse, said
that he should cooing hmself entirely to the paragraph of
her Mests's S,mels to which the amendment bad been
directed. lie thought it would be imporei'sle for bis hon.
hind, the member for Laurin, sad those who entertained
his views, to agree to the paragraph in the Speech of Her
&Nest, without moving en amendment. That paragraph
stated, that " Her Majesty has great satisfaction in ma-
'Mulatto( yea on the Improved condition of comma and
manufactures. It is with regret that her Mejesty has ob-
served the complaints which in many parts of the kingdom
bays promded from the owners and occupiers of lead. Her
Mikity greatly laments that any prison of her subjects
should be suffering distress. But it is a source of sincere
gratification to her Majesty to whams the increased enjoy-
ment of the necessaries and oomforh of life which cheapness
red pieoty have bestowed upon the great body of her people."
Now,whern it was remembered that complaints did not proceed
soisly hoes the occupiers and owners of land, it seemed that
there was an intention on the part of her Majemy's ministers
to insult the large bid, who complained. Bat what did they
bear from the boo. mover of the address lest night? What wee
the comment be pve to this passage ? He said, with a
sneer, I thick that any ezpremion of our sympathy in favour
of the swam and occupiers of the had is sere to receive •
reedy espouse. Now, he (the Marquis of Granby) said
that he beeMved that the distress of the owners and occupiers
of land would receive the sympathy of the member
of this house, and not only of this house, bat of the
country, not only for themselves, bat because every
thinking man knew that they could not be distressed
without the labourers being distressed also. It had bees
admitted by the only member of the government who
had yet spoken. that the labourer was suffering. His
right boa. friend admitted that there was dishess in the
agricultural districts, and he said that that distress mainly
hll upon the small tenant tamers; that they were the men
who felt it most severely ; and he believed that was correct.
But allow him to remind the hon. member, and to remind
the house, of the large number of them tenant taxmen.
Aqui hint to remind them that the tenant fanner' were
equal to every male above twenty years of age
employed in manufactures in this country; that they were
• class that had ever been very loyal to their sovereign; that
they were essentially belonging to the middle elm of this
country. Allow him to remind the house that Uwe' mainly
through the existence of this dm of men that we had been,
through Almighty Providence, saved from those comnbions
that had overthrown the constitutions of other ematries. He
told him to remember that on them, and that immediately,
the stability of this country depended. He thought that in
looking at the wellbeing of the labourirg elmes is this
country, there were two things that must be takes fate
consideration • yea mut consider, not only the sip-
arse of the necessaries of Ufe, the Mimi of
food, and the cheapness of things whisk they imai
to purchase, but you must also consider the magemt it the
wages. The setricultanl labourers by far outnumbers& Seel
engaged in msnufectarea and other pursuits. At the pint
woman, by your legislation the agricultural labayser we.
worse off than be was previous to the tntroduaties of lies
trade useemuses. There =John* • reduction la Ye pries
of bread, but those who were employed at Musa wages
were worn off than they wore before. It wm set only these
who were employed bat these who were set employed.
(Hear.) The right be.. g--- hed skid se the
.at Improvement la esimse ant meashetama Na
body rejoiced I. that Miami lie than he (Lied
Granby) did, but be Wien' Yet the returns it n width
the right hon. radleseade speed) was reeasdnog be
taken with some quilled's& Mask had beensod et the
leamenee itemised la teak ef Sheffield. New, le held la
his hand • letter whiek be had aim' from a easaistises
is that town, whir& solsies& the sin Mali of ileMek,
without say mini he de rased isehledre imps. lik
eisisysat add, it undealitilly di bed beim agent
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the lei 0 Midi hr Ss is issues Whim
Chimes, sad the musth after, but lie added That the ia-
miesames seamed in' entirely to the Maio Dada Large
einhad some la ism Saida Ailed'', thaValled lie,
bads ease hid bees 11111, at se hiss la des
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Antdpelsgo. Immense orders Lad also Wm received from
California, bet that was only temporary, sod Ide ewes-
pondent macluded by stating that he feared a gegedgmen
minim, such as madly followed every shed bile of
Mailing prosperity. Us hod written to his sli=dielot '
again, to asCtrtSlD whether there bad Wei any
recent improvement la the hems hie alswer
was that so far from there befog ony thsaa eng
• marked falling off is the or the Mal emblem
In the article of fire stoves, eneentially as snide Of home
demand, there had been • method filling off in the emmnt
of orders. (Protectionist cheers.) Hs withal to make the
hoes, fully aware of the importance of this here trade,
which present legislation went so ruthlessly to destroy. He
band that, taking fte retorts of the cotton trade tor
the Years 1820, '3O, '4O, '45, '46, '47, '4B, sad '
, the total amount of cotton mannfratored was'
442.777,8741D5. The hotel exports f r those years were,
British poetised.= Included, 185;213,04116., the total of
I 'sports brine 136,337,96511., and of experts to
British colonies 46,883,186 the. ; while at the more time the
arouse consumed by the home market was 257.632,95911.,
or the house and colonial markets together 303,426,3251 be.
(Protectionist cheers.) He thou ght therefore, that the int-
penance of the home trade to the cotton market could not
be overrated. (Hear.) Dot supposing the home trade
to be his than it was, he had heard no an
seer to the assertion of his kosouroble Mead
the member for Liaooloshire, that jibe he.. trade was pro.
Meted by a ditty of 10 per sear. (Cheers.) Ho wasted
to know why no person had iris at to contradict that state.
atent, or U it wee admitted why an equal amount of protec
lion was withheld from measles's. (Protectionist cheers.)
How different in value wee the home trade, now completely
ander year own control, and the foreign trade, which might
be withdrawn from yea at any moment. That such a contin
racy was not impuesible might be inferred from the report
of Mr. Meredith, the American Secretary to the Teraaurl,
at least so far es regarded our trade with the Doke.' States
He knead that the total valise of our exports was 33,819.7861
and of this amount 10,974,1611; went to the Unites' States,
being me-third of the whole. Sepias* them, that the
Dented States were to carry the plan of their seaway into
issecutimi what would bemuse of ore American trade ? Why
on Alain! of our foreign trade would be at ones ent off. He
/eared he w s detaining the hots a (Lou'! cries of
" Hoar, hear.") His endeavour had been to stow that the
distress which now affected the segriceltoried, wool 1 000 D
estend to the other classes of the commanity. (Hear hear.)
The agriettlturista could not yew endure Ouse burdens which
whilst they had some compendium in the shape of the
protection which was extended to their produce they bore
wiltiegly, (Hear, hear.) They said if free trade is to be
the order of, the day let it be fully and impartially carried
wt. (Chiron from the free traders.) He ahoteld on the
present occasion give a hearty support to the amendment of
kis hoe. friend. (Hem). Bat (continued the noble lord) I
warn her Majesty 'a government, the: in spite of evarhing,
in spite of the threats of the Anti-Corn-law League, sad the
indifference of ministers themselves, who are aioptior the
views and promoting the objects of a:ciess of men who, it:is
my belief, desire to undermine the institutions of the eons.
try—(" Oh," a laugh, and ctemrs)—in spite of the indaua-
dons se to oar motion, conscious of the integrity of those
motives, sad oe th, justice of our cause—fully (=premed with
the equity, the humanity, the patriotism, and the nationality
of our principles, we will coalmine to taproom them &gal It
all who may offer opposition, confident that an ealightoned
public opinion will in the end &clue in our favour. (Loud
cheers from the Protectionist benches.)
Mr. E. DENISON, who was but imperfectly heard, was
understood to say that the question under consideration was
not whether protection should be rc-established, but whe-
ther certain words shou'il be introduced into the address,
describing the difficulties under which sericulture laboured.
If that declaration were not to be followed by legislative
action, it would merely create inconvenience, and by holding
out false and delusive hopes, prevent that attention to their
level position en the pan of the aeri.ultniiits which was
:=lBlto be enabled to meet tale circumstances of the
t(heer, beer.) He presented, however, that it was
intended by this amendment that the house shanld pledge
itself not only to reconsider its measures, but speedily to
reverse that policy on which, of late years, it hod proceeded.
It was most important both to the landowners and the men-
piers that this question should be finally determined at the
earliest possible moment, and that their muds should no
Boger be diverted by delusive hopes from that attention to
the improvement of the land, which was necessary to their
mutual interests. (Hoar, hear.) Now, wider what circum-
stances were they mat for the discussion of this question ?
He believed many of the cobwebs wtich had obscured it had
of late been swept away. At a late meeting in Lince/nahire,
presided 010 r by the bon. gentleman oppodte (Mr. Christo-
inher), it was endeavoured to be shown that free trade was
jurious to all classes, but the hon. member's mileages,
who moved the amendment totbe address, had admitted that

commerce and manufactures, and the general interests of the
country apart from agriculture were in a prosperous state.
No doubt the read= of the agriculturists and of the owners
and occupiers of land was one of great difficulty at the pre-
sent moment. But how was that difficulty to be met ? lie
resided in a county bounded on the one side by the most im-
portant county in England, ant on the other by Leicester-
shire, and had observed the manner in which the landlord.
and occupiers of land had of late been umpired. Instead of
endeavouring to improve their land and increase its puduct-
ivenew—give encouragement and confidenosjto their tenants,
and find employmect for labourers—he found them attends,
at great public meetints, where the object appeared to be to
aggravate the distress and difficul.y which really existed,
to promote acerbity of feeling, and to indulge (as, he wet
sorry to say, was too often the case) in personal invective.
(Cheers from the ministerial side of the house.) The
noble lord (Granby) wu aware of the partiality of
his countrymet for a grievance—(hear, liar)—that
they liked to be told they were vary adly off, and
the noble lord was ever ready to earn the cheers
of his agricultural audiences by Indulging that pecu-
liarity. (Chun.) The noble lord told Its hearers that
there was but one hope for than, and that was in the re-
iteration of protection; and under this assurance they were
content to rest quiet, in the exputatim that protection
must speedily be achieved ; well the noble:lord would, in a
day or two, have to tell them that the battle of protection
had again been fought and lost. (Cheers) What then
must be done ? It was not for him to suggest what would
be the natural answer of the tenant farmers to this comma-
niceties. Be did not like to allude to a sutdeet se Stikine.
(" Bear, hear," and • laugh.) Bat speaking as •
landowner himself (and one of those landowner,
whom land net being of a very good desert tan,
must suffer at Wet much as any—(hear lusar)—he
could not shot his ern W the bet that be tint be prepared
to submit to a redthethin et theme. (Cheers.) One part of
the SHMOdislatlimesis to speak about local burdens, but
they must lemember that those local burdens were in &great
mums impseed by themselves and under their own control,
and if these landoweers who were magistrates would turn
their attention to the matter of the management of the funds
raised for keel parries, they would find that the espendi.
tart might in 'most eases be greatly reduced. In his own
eounty, on a recent occasion, be had found by instituting •
strict exualtatins, that out of 130 items charged in the ac-
counts, 97 were illegal, and could not be supported by nay
existing law. (Bear, hear.) In condemns, he begged to
say that he had never given a vote with ss much confidence
both in its justice and its necessity, an the vote he should
give that tight spinet the amendment. (Cheers.)
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le.rd NORREYS could not but feel that the statements
made of the probability of the imposition of a moderate
fixed duty on corn were raising expectations in the minds
of the agriculturists which wen domed to be disap-
points& (Hest, hear.) He saw no other hope of agricul-
ture] relief than In such a diminution of taxation as might
be effected by a wise, prudent, and economic arrangement
of the pubs expenditure. (Cheers.) That was a ones.
tion they maid bereaffne have ample opportunity of die
ethnic mil be mid me se advantage in deputing from
that theme ef prneseiliag which was usual on such occa-
sions es the peeesat. (Hear, hear.)
Capes "'ALBAN lama be should be able to satisfy
hen gendeme• en bath Marna the house that he bad some
mien fee shimming them ea a subject, which, personally,
wee set to him. He had been long anxious to
mid the titles of public life, but having talon the step to
come iste pediment for a most independent borough, he
comaidered Skis ditty on the present occasion, in consequence
of the tura the debate had taken, to refer for a moment to
the county of Lincoln. He was the only mem.
her within that county who bad bun returned 1
to that home on free trade principles; and he admitted 1
that the amendment which had been imposed, couplf d
with the remarks made upon it by the hee. mover, bad
placed gentlemen like himself, who were emnected closely
and intimately with the agricultural interest, in some little
difficulty with regard to the vote he Mudd bare the
honour to give for the first time la parliament.
(Hess.) He would commence by saying thatif lektook,
as he did, his place upon the rnelei berths
aa • free-trade member, he was tot di in yield the hon.
gentlemen on the opposition aide of theme the exclusive
right of arrogating to themselves the title of being the far-
mers' ifriends. (Hear, hear.) It had hem as mimed by
these hon. gentlemen that her Majesty's government and
their supporters were indifferent to that distress which
there was no on-Won prevailed In the agricul-
tural districts of this country. Now if he sup-
that that imputation was founded in justice,
Lalloald have no hesitation, from the respect he felt for
that elm of the subjects of the empire, the landowners and
occupiers of bad, to rote against her Majesty's minhtus ;
bet so far from that being the case,the believed that there we.
no disposition to tun • deaf ear to the statements of hon. gen-
tlemen opposite, made on the part of the agricultural interests
ef this country, and that her Majesty's government had exer-
cised a wise discretion in not adopting such Mena
as were new d to be intreduath into the address.
(Hear t hear.)PrZilsehon. friend the member for South Lin-
(fib J. Trollops) bad last eight made come re-
m•
elts, In many of which he (Captain Pelham) cordially
eceseurred. That hes. gentleman had addressed the house
In a me and NASSOW which reflected credit ; and, sharing
se he (Captain Pelham) did is some respects with the opi.
aims dim expememl, he felt it ineumbent on him to state
she* why be we all prepared to vote for
the amedmegl lie could set beget that on the opposite
aide et the beam NS those who were in the habit, not of
eatbatiesillwousives with mica that the agricultural in-
Mean were in iblesse, and that Om sight tots alleviating
samara pined M amble than to get through the &W-
-ealthes of that distrese, hat that it wee and dettireitle
to retain as a spasm of preen s. sir the sale-
UNION of Vises istewas. Tbseelbre, witherarf
rawest fir lea iselleesea opposite, be viewed with ms Ip
ales the werfezie:t: eateadessat.y's Wined that if
arseedel la tat surest en the
Want valublic th 2 vitti esaleat thaseesives with
sells eslams Set emidiasat, belt that they walla
eadasosar to de Sea white they arlasablad we aseassery
kr the pesmerity of the baud Menet mid the iaterest of the
wawa at large, asaarly,V. ipe bask le that system of pro-
Medea which had beta alutemcal blle giserel own of