The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1853-09-30 00:00:00

THE NORTHERN DAILY TIMES.

DOCK COMMITTER

ALBERT DOCK WAREHOUSES,
The CHAIRMAN stated the working accounts of the Albert
Dock Warehouses for 1851, 1852, .and 1853, which were
ordered last week, were now before the Committee. The
result was, that the balance of profit in 1851 was £22,025,
in 1852, £16,793, and in 1853, £16,363. All the details
were there, but he did not know whether the Committee
required them.—Mr. GREGSON : The- accounts arc not de-
bited with the interest.—The °HARMAN : No ; that is the
nett result, —Mr. GREoSoN : The interest would be about
£l7,4oo,—The OHAlitirAN: I do not recollect the exact
amount.—Mr: GREGSON s £17,400 a year.—Mr. ROUND-
THWAITE There is an item charged in this year's accounts
which ought to have gone to last year's accounts, which
Would make it less.—The CHAIRMAN : We have altered that.
This year is now put in with what it ought to bear.—Mr.
ROBINSON said the average was 5 1-16 per cent. for the year.
—Mr. BIGHAM : How do you account for the falling oif be-
tween 1851 and 1852 ?—Mr. ROBINSON accounted for it in
this way. At the Commencement of 1852 they were very
slack; the warehouses were not half full; but during the
last few months they were very full. At the commmence-
ment of the year 1852 there was a very great de-.
ficiency of goods, —The CHAIRMAN In addition to
this, there has been paid out of the current receipts of
the year £3,182, the cost of the hydraulic machinery,
implements, and stores unconsumed, and that £3,182
we have the use of. Mr. GREGSON, not exactly so much,
£1,500 worth of stores were on hand in 1851. The CHAIR-
MAN—Not so much. Mr. BIGHAM, those stores were alway
brought in. The CHAIRMAN said £383,000 had been fixed
as the cost for the Albert Dock Warehouses, and that the
produce, estimated on the average of the three years, £18,363
or 41 per cent, per annum, Then there was a greater per
to be added for implements, which had been bought
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out se current revenue of the year, which we still have
the use of. Mr. BIGHAM, Put it before us in another light.
For the present year, the nett profit is, £16,363, or £383,000
would give as something like £4 2s. per cent., which we
have been paying for the bulk of that money, and instead of
a surplus, to lay by, we are losing money. The CHAIRMAN,
we have been losing in consequence of not rising our labour
rate. Mr. RosiNsmi, Mr. Bigham forgot they had their
stock implements, &c., which had been purchssed out of the
revenue. Mr BIGHAM, still you will not have 4 per cent.
He would ask why the rates had not been before raised ?
The CHAIRMAN said they could not raise and lower their
rates every month, like the owners of private warehouses
had done. They were tied by the .provisions of an act of
parliament, which it was for the committee to consider whe
ther they should get altered. Ai- 5, *A
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their rates a fei months ago, and when they did so, they
agreed to go on with the old porterage rates, they found with
a loss, but the addition of 20 per cent. would cover any
loss on labour. For the last few months there had been a
loss on labour equal to £2,300 or £2,400. That had been
altered by the resolution of the sub-committee and approved
of by. the Mayor and the senior magistrates, and would
come into operation on the Ist October, which
would make a great difference. Mr. BIGBAM
totally dissented from the principle laid down
by the Chairman of the Warehouse Management
Committee that we should make our rents at the lowest
possible rate, so that we might extend the trade of the poor.
If there has been £383,000 expended on those warehouses,
we ought at first to secure a safe return to cover the inter-
est of the money we borrow, and we should also have suffi-
rient to cover the depreciation of property, and if we get
that which all private warehouse owners do, we shall then
not only have a fair return for the capital invested, but we
shall act justly towards IDrivate interests. If we let out
those warehouses for a less price than will do, we are
bringing public capital to bear against private interests,
without benefitting the rates. Mr. BROCKLEBANK.—At
present the Albert dock warehouses arc entirely full, and
we have never been so before,- and probably at the end of
next year we shall be able to show a very different result.
If we go at once and raise our rates, although there arc rates
on some articles which I know would bear some rising, it
would be V— ,f half

~ao means at once o: J-emptying their ware-
houses. The CHAIRMAN said it was not their intention to
work the warehouses at rates under those charged at private
warehouses. As regarded private warehouses it was only
within the last few months thre warehouses became so full,
and it was therefore quite clear they had not been working
under the private warehouses. Mr. BIGHAM.—It is quite
clear, also, those warehouses cost too much. Mr. SHAND.—
Yes' they cost us too much. Mr. MALCOLMSON—We
must suffer in those warehouses. Mr. ShAND.— They cost us
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in building them. Mr. Btoitnx.—lt was dearly bought.
Mr. SHAD —Not so dearly bought if you profit in your
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ILLIALLG allu 1 emelt 0 MUM oy you will mm we will get a tau
return, dearll, as they were built, and all future erections of
the kind will be built at a much lower rate. Mr. RIGHAm:
They were not built by contract—were they ? We gene-
rally expect things to be dono cheaply by contract. Mr.
BRocKLEDANK : You cannot separate the dock and the
warehouses, and from the Albert dock we get a very large
revenue. You cannot separate them. Mr. ROBINSON :
The dock pays better than any in town. The CHAIRMAN :
Take the dock and warehouses together they pay very
handsomely. Mr. SHAND: You may argue it as you please,
but there is a great advantage in having warehouses around
the dock. Mr. ROBINSON was afraid the increased rates
would be the means of reducing the rates. The ware-
houses were now very full, and the amount this year would
be far beyond anything that had been since they were
opened. Mr. RIGHAM : You are taking it by anticipation.
When may we expect the' Stanley dock warehouses to be
finished ? Mr. HARTLEY : They are np to the second story.
Mr. BIGHAM : Could you give me anything like a definite
idea ? Mr. HARTLEY : It will be Midsummer, at any rate.
Mr. SHAND: They ought to be finished by November. Mr.
HARTLEY : Yes. Mr. BIGHAM : When does the time ex-
pire ? Mr. HARTLEY : The last day in November. Mr.
BIGIIAM : Does the sub-contractor mean to bring it before

the general committee ? Mr. SHAND : The party° who has
the contract will come under the penalty on the 30th of
November, and the committee of works will not relieve
them from it. The CHAIRMAN : It will be a question for
this committee. Mr. SHAND : Quite so.; the harbour mas-
ters' sub-committee recommended an alteration in some of
the buoys to indicate when channel road was being formed,
and the alteration of some of the banks. Mr. SHAND said
the alteration of the banks was in favour of the channel.
Mr. LITTLEDALE ; Not in favour of the Victoria Channel,
but the surveyor thinks there is a channel opening out now
which will be better than ever the Victoria Channel was.

SUPERANNUATION OF MR. WHITE, DOCKMASTER

It was recommended that Mr. White, Master of the Co-
burg Dock, who was incapacitated and unable to resume
his duties, should be superannuated with an allowance of
£lOO per annum.—The CHAIRMAN said, Mr. White had
been 33 years in the employ of the Dock Committee. Mr.
White's salary was £lBO per annum, with £4O for house.
he had been ill for a long time, and it was quite evident he
had lost the use of his side.—Mr. BIGHAM : What right
has he to £lOO per annum ? I submit to Mr. North, we have
no power to grant any such sum.—Mr. GREGSON : One of
our old servants, Mr. East, is already superannuated at £l2O
per annum.-- Mr. BIGHAM : That was understood to be the
last. How long was Mr. White Dock master.—The CHAIR-
MAN : He was appointed master of the Clarence Basin in
1831, and master of the Salthouse Dock in 1833. It is 22
years since he was appointed Master of the Clarence Basin,
and 20 years since he was appointed master of the Salt-
house dock.—Mr. BROKLEBANK thought they had resolutions
on the books, which prevented them giving compensations.
—The CHAIRMAN thought the resolution was with reference
to new appointments. The men were to enter into a club,
and no superannuation was to be allowed. This is a man,
30 years in the employ.—Mr. ROBINSON : What is the age
of Mr. White ?—The CHAIRMAN : 64 years, I forget his
exact age ; but he is exceedingly infirm. Ho was before
the Committee on the previous day.—Mr. BIGHAM :
It is a very large sum. The CHAIRMAN : If you allow any-
thing at all ycu cannot allow less.—Mr. BIGHAM : You have
no power to give him this. Mr. NORTH : Yes, there is an
express act.—Mr. ROYDEN said, before the time of the oldest
man living, it was customary for the Dock. Committee to
take care of its servants: Within the last few years it was
recommended that a society should be entered into ; but
always before, for a long time past, every one who entered
into the service, had always, when he met with an accident or
was ill, been taken care of. That was one reason why they had
such an efficient staff, and if the system were altered it should be
publicly known.—The CHAIRMAN : There is a resolution to
that effect.—Mr. SHAND said it was found there were mem-
bers of the Society who had insured their lives, and if they
were to go from the service without any consideration, they
would not have the means of meeting the premium.—Mr.
BIGHAM : Like every one else they should save up for the
rainy day. If they do not they deserve nothing.—Mr.
SHAND : You would not save a great deal out of £l2O per
year.—The CHAIRMAN : Do you, Mr. Bigharn, move any
resolution ?—Mr. BIGHAM : I do not; I only protest against
it. Ido not think I would get a seconder here.—The re-
commendation was then confirmed. The resignation of
J. R. Parry, dock gateman, was - accepted, and the Sub-
Committee were authorized to appoint a person in his place.

APPLICATION FOR AN INCREASE OP WAGES

The CHAIRMAN intimated there was a renewed application
for an increase of wages by the Dock gate-men. He then
read the memorial which they had sent in.—Mr. BIGHAM
asked was it true that half of them threatened to resign.—The
CHAIRMAN had not heard. Parry had resigned; but it was
the only resignation he had heard of. —Mr. BROCKLEBANK
said they had very good wages when _provisions were very
low, but the moment there was a rise in prides, they sought
an increase.—Mr. BIGHAM suggested that a resolution should
be'passed to the effect that all the parties who were not
satisfied with the present rate of wages should send in their
resignation.—The CHAIRMAN : If it be the general opinion

The usual weekly meeting of the Dock Committee was
held yesterday, Mr. Charles Turner in the chair. The other
members present Were, Messrs, Shand, Rebinsoni Brocke-
tank, Gregson, Chaloner, Malcomson, Bighant, Boyden,
Roundthwaite, Steele, Rankin, Evans. The Sub-Commit-j
tee of Works recommended that the sum of £2 be paid to
the owner in Carpenter's-row, as compensation, in conse-
quence of the alteration of the level of the street. The
Warehouse Management Committee reported, in conse-
qnence of the great increase in the price of labour they had
raised the rates, and increased the rates of labour 20 per
cent.

of the committee, we should decline it at once.—Mr, 11,oynnx
considered at the present time the men were entitled to an
increase of wages, particularly so, as they did not now receive
the little perquisites they were in the habit of getting.—Mr
BROCKM3ANIC. was afraid the little perquisites were continued,
and he understood that direct application had been made
recently to gentlenien fin' the perquisites.—The CHAIRMAN :
I hope not. Mr. Bionkri i There is no doubt but Mr.
Broldebank himself pays them if he only knelt of it:—Mr.
GREESON remarked that when Mr. Roydon considered the
class of men the Dock gate-men were, he must be satisfied
they were well paid. They were generally sailors who were
glad to stop at home with their families. It was not again
Worth while to refer this to the committee, as it had so
lately decided not to grant the increase sought. —The CHAIR-
MAN : What is to be done —Mr. BIGHAM I move it be
GREEsolf seconded the motion, —Mr. ROY'
DON moved as an amendment, that the wages of the dock gate-

men be increased 2s per week ; but the amendment not
seconded, it fell to the grouni, Mr, GREGSON said it was
unfortunate Mr. Royden had made such a proposition, be-
cause it would only make the men more uneasy, Joseph
Jeffery made application to be appointed master porter, A
letter was read from the Ship Builders Association, complain-
ing of the want of accommodation_ experienced by that body
in the place in which they have to meet the harbour master,
relative to the entrance of vessels into the graving dock.—
Referred to the Harbour Master's Committee. A communi-
cation was read from Messrs. Richardson, Brothers; asking
permission to store 2,000 tons of coal, for the use of their
steamers, on the quay in the neighbourhood of the Welling-
ton Half-tide Dock.—Referred to the Harbour Master's
Committee. A notice was read from the Board of Trade,
calling attention to an Act of Parliament prohibiting the
mortgaging of rates, except for purposes expressly connected
with shipping, but as an express exemption had been made with
respect to Liverpool, the circular did not apply to them. On
the application of the Rev. Mr. Maynurd, the rent of the
marine schools was reduced from £l5 to £5 per annum.
The general business then terminated.

SHREWSBURY

AND CHESTER RAILWAY
COMPANY.

The adjourned Meeting was held at the Royal Hotel,
Chester, at Twelve o'clock, noon, yesterday, when the fol-
lowing report was presented :

FOR MR. TAUNTON'S AMENDMENT

Persons present, 35, representing
Proxies held by ditto

1,5130 votes

11,938 „

13,493

AGAINST MR. TAUNTON'S AMENDMENT

Persons present, 8, representing yY
573 „
Proxies held by ditto .. 6,167 „

Majority for the Amendment . 6,758
Signed,

JOAN TREVOR, }Scrutineers.
WM. LOW, C.E.,
A vote of thanks to the Chairman closed the proceedings

FASHIONS FOR OCTOBER

We this month commence our series of winter
fashions. This is the only Magazine of Fashion
published, which is thus early enabled to give indi-
cation of the styles that will be worn during the
approaching season. The World of Fashion having
now become the leading Magazine in Europe, all
the most eminent Artistes (Ms Modes are eager that
their novelties should first appear in it, from their
knowledge that we are now patronized by almost
the whole of the leading aristocracy.
Jacket bodies continue to be much worn for all
dresses, whether of silk, satin, or cashmere ; the
styles are various, as will be seen .by referring to
our plates of costumes ; some closing.to the throat,
others .d. revers, opening to the waist, or en demi
eceur ; the style of body represented in the second
figure of our first plate is suited. for poplins, cash-
meres, merinos, and all woollen materials. The
pagoda style of sleeve still predominates ; they are
generally worn rather short, with deep engagcantes
of lace or embroidery for in-door costume, while for
promenade large bouillon sleeves, with deep-worked
ruffles, or the fullness set into a narrow band of
embroidery, are preferred.
The skirts of plain silk will be worn with flounces,
either d disposition, or stamped at the edge ; those
which are woven in very large plaids, will be worn
extremely full, and without flounces.

Cashmeres will be trimmed with velvet, and where
they have flounces, they will be embroidered with
the same colour as the velvet : various shades of
slate colour, drab and stone colour, will be the most
in favour fdr this material.

w
hii,,re given bUVeral styles of mantles for tile
ensuing season: the two we have given in our fifth
plate have been already extensively patronized by
the first London houses. Another style which will
prevail will be the Empress Mantle ; the mantles
and paletot in our 2nd and 3rd plates have been
much approved of.
Bonnets will still retain the oval form of front,
and no change has taken place in the style of wear-
ing them : black lace and velvet will be the favour-
ite trimming, as indicated in our plates —World of
Fashion.

ROBBERY AT THE AMPHITHEATRE.--LaSt night,
shortly after 11 o'clock, as a gentleman was leaving the
Amphitheatre, his gold watch was snatched from his pocket.
The thcives got off with their booty.

CHOLERA IN LIVERPOOL.—By reference to the
proceedings of the health committee reporter. in another
column, it will be seen that in addition to the deaths from
Cholera, on board the ship "Sily Greenman," a fatal case
has occured in Lace-street, in this town, the victim being an
Irish labonrer. The joint committee of health have been
actively engaged for the two past days in ordering precau-
tionary measures, and taking the necessary steps to give them
practical effect.

MR. LEVI'S LECTURE.—It was announced that
Mr. Leone Levi would have delivered another lecture at one
o'clock yesterday, in the Chamber of Commerce, but as there
were only two or three persons in attendance, it was thought
expedient to adjourn the proceedings to a future day.

REVISION COURT.—The Court sat at the usual
hour yesterday, and proceeded with the hearing of claims and
objections regarding the township of Liverpool, from the
letter A..to O. No feature of any public importance exhi-
bited itself.

REGISTERED BIRTHS AND DEATHS IN MANCHESTER,
for the week, as laid before the Bird of Guardians, at their
weekly meeting held yesterday ;—Total, births, 142 ; deaths,
146.

MANCHESTER AND SALFORD LYING-IN HOSPITAL.—
Weekly Report, Sept. 29 :—ln-patients admitted, 4; in-
patients discharged, 1 ; patients in the hospital, 8 : home-
patients admitted, 25 ; home-patients discharged, 18 ; out-
patients admitted,-17; out-patients discharged, 11.

WAR •VESSELS IN THE CHINESE SEAS.—There has
never before, writes a correspondent by the last mail, been
such an immense squadron of steam war vessels on the coast
of China as at the present time. 'We speak of the steamers
of other nations as well as our own. Following is a list of them:
—British : H.MS.S. Rattler, 9 guns • Hermes, 6 guns; Sa-
lamander, 6 guns ; Styx 6 guns. American : Mississippi,
10 guns ; Susquehannah, 9 guns ; Powhattan, 9 guns.
French :La Cassini, 6 guns. Russian, Vostock, 2 guns.
Sailing Vessels—British : Winchester, 50' guns ; Spartan,
82 guns ;Lily, 12 guns ; Rapid, 8 guns.

ELECTION OF LORD MAYOR, YESTERDAY.--
This being Michaelmas Day, according to annual custom,
the election of an alderman, to fill the office of chief magis-
trate of the City of London, for the ensuing year, took place
wiih the usual formalities, at the Guildhall. At twelve
o'clock, the Right Honourable the Lord Mayor, accompanied
by the Sheriffs, several of the alderman, the Recorder, the
City Solicitor, and various of the other civic dignitaries,
went in procession to the parish church of St. Lawrence
Jewry, where a suitable sermon was preached on the occasion
by the Rev. Dr. Mortimer, Head Master of the City School,
chaplain to the Lord Mayor.

The inauguration dinner of Mr. Alderman. Wire,
Sheriff for London and Middlesex, will take place to-day,
at the London Tavern, Bishopgate-street, instead of the Gird-
lers' Hall, as was originally proposed, in consequence of the
number of guests who have honoured the worthy alderman
by accepting his invitation. ,

Card 1.14 VAN DIEMMEN'S LAND..--The worth of
the Fingal coal, we believe,. has always been acknowledged.
It is unquestionably superior to any yet discovered in the
island, for general purposes. The only doubt as to its
strength was satisfactorily set at rest by a fair trial in the
furnaces of Messrs. Thompson's steam vessels on Friday
last, in the presence of the engineers of the Clarence and
IVarata steamers, and the commanders of those vessels and of
others; there were also present Messrs. John Thompson,
Fawns, Donglas, Francis Evans, Fisher and Goodwin. The
coal was from the Killymoon estate, Fingal, taken, we un-
derstand, from a scam upwards of thirteen feet in thickness.
At twenty-five minutes past noon, five cwt. was thrown into
the furnace (previously burt out), which kept the steam up
with a revolution of 37 per minute until 15 minutes to 3
o'clock, when the furnace was again cleared out, and at 12
minutes past five cwt. of the best Newcastle coals were tried,
which kept up the steam, varying from 27 to 88 revolutions.
per minute, until 5 o'clock. The result proved that the
Killymoon coal possessed more strenth than the Newcastle ;
it made no clinkers nor smoke, whereas tha Newcastle made
much of both. It is unfortunate that the distance of the
Fingal coal deposit from water carriage renders it useless
for commercial purposes, but surely in these golden times the
mere obstacle of distance might be overcome.—Launceston
Examiner, April 6,

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