The Express.
London, England, 1857-06-15 00:00:00

NATIONAL REFORMATORY UNION.

On Saturday the second annual meeting of the
National Reformatory Union was held at Willie's-mama,
Kinsalvast, St. James's, Lord BILOVORAN in the chair.
Tammy also present Roe. Mr. Liddell,
_II.P. ; Sir E.
gawks% M.P. ; Mr. R. Monckton allow, M.P.; Mon. Mr,
rzt;;.; Mr. Headlam, DLP. • Mr. WM, M.P. ;
, M.P. • Sir Cheats Nicholson; Use. Mr.
La.meass, the Res. fljdney
The mot emegraastoll the mai if m wpm the union,
which 12 swaths age Mil bow=:=, hand now
a decided anowea, with twit mat Liver-
pool and me at Bristol, sad Weep rise to a Pair ina-
nition at New York. Nate the piedig of the Reformatory
Act sK reftweatory schools beil issa sealed by the Secre-
tary elands, endands, that :mho wee ter hem Meg adequate
to mist the eremt. The eke Ss diedifficulty of
ebtraishig temehers estallelments up to
the gemsintot stembed to mad implements,
and temeated an as asseelly el a twisty to pro-
csrAtell=firm MS= Mit K. di to Load
Brougham cm the dliliseagy at Sakti betructors, and
stating that in order to =them, ma ea preparatoire
hed been estebliahed at
Hier Grau~xrr mid ha bad Mee received maw letter from
M. de Moir upon the best locality for a vasswarey school,
advising the founders of such institution be Pal oar&
the-way plants, end not to have more then a ems or so in
one school.
Mr. MONCILTON MILERS, M.P. moved, end Mr. Bona-
SUN . M.P. seconded the MOP of the mirk
Kr. ADDEELET, NISSEiS TOSIE AMISS M the
Industrial Schools Bill. 11r. Addeetsy MI that in the ab-
eam of Sir Stafford Northoets fromParilement, belted Yam
chop of the bill. It wee to be discussed esmatlee ea
Wednesday. It was thrown back late into the masa ea
accoarduntian ofs the short-righted oppositics of some
boards of
p.
Mr. BRAMAN M.P.. wooded the resolution, remarking
that theirst principle of the bill was that prevention wasbetter
than cm, and the second that parents ought to be made
to contribute to the support of their children.
After some remarks by Mr. Liddell, M.P., Mr. Garnett,
and other gentlemen, the mannawee oared to.
Mr. Mucus, 11. P., then moved that it was Beatable to
have corresponding committees in the colonies, and
The MOIL Mr. LASCELLES seconded the motion.
Sir IL KEERISON, M.P., moved, and Mr. W. GLADSTONE
seconded a resolution, that the increase of reformatory schools
makes the training of properly qualified teachers a gnat
The IV:century amoun ed that the provincial meeting
would be held this year in Birmingham, during the Sat
week in October.

A meeting of gentlemen interested in our fisheries
wu held on Satur&y last, at the Craven Hotel, Strand, for
the purpose of forming an sasociation havinF for its object
the ment of improved legislation on this subject.
sulAwZnr.Pthose .
• Mr.ileselact M.P . vein VMr. Viscount
• Yet;
W. J. Ffenned (inspecting oomnasioner of fisheries, Ireland);
Mr. Thomas ()woad- ; Mr. Hobert Built (superintendent of
the Tay Ashen* ; Mr. Halliday (Galway fishery) ; Mr.
Henry Ibrahall • Mr. S. C. Hall; Mr. Shaw; Mr. Andrew
Young, of 'overlain; Mr. William Dunbar, of Brawl
Castle • Kr. Y. Akerson* • !dr. J. Mitchell, Golub's'', ;
Mr. Giesnswell ; Mr. Stoddsit ; Mr. Robertson; Mr. Pear-
sou;• Mr. Green, Au &e.
r. Clautiorr, of MMus, g havin been called to the
chair commonlcationa were made of regret on the rof
the Duke of Roxburgh*, the Ben of GleagalL Lord
Clinton, and Mr. T. Aahwceth, Poynton, of their insbilly

to attend.
The CHAIRMAN stated that the rocetinglanilMensagelled
0n,..T short mike, In order that might he
s gentlemen who were eminent lig their
knowledge of the etallesen to be assasseL Among treitTres
Mr. Mandl, impeting camigismsr of lriah &Mom
who had kindly esespesd en inelkden to stood, ta coke to
give the mestilvinillentellies es to dm yak tad
el the Irish Isom
lThe driers bat
=ti
ante." 7"
lt iss 'A fl• saVi arlstka is
albrdlag
tho Om-tree prime Mead AM like
power. Ws Vow, be INA vas madraly_ supported by the
=prime ci the !v-pseess ea the Irish mess. Heehawed
Set while legislation was deeeled to the development of
agriculture in all its lamellae, the cultivation el
enr rime ha Ina diedy aatimtd (although the
=vas ens d sollensi impmteses), sod their delleree-
pest as to emir fit* porrary a object of polite
bask ; end if the keel mils of affording facilities of
*pen Is ten upper metes es ground...re full."
mintied oak we Mould mom the griming iffc9B9.
elks emsmodsich, heed eksoiftwould being forwardto
a
state ettorketion the mei eskilis kik for human food that
enr livers produce. The airs, after entering into
statistics called upon Mr. Fame le slims the meeting .
Mr. FrINNILL Stated that the seism blurts& of Ireland
hat der mete men previous to 18th been in so rapid • pro-
pene et mispollea that the attention of the public was
oreuse4, tad mei skim felt at the deteriorated condition at
which lbw bed errived. After much inquiry • bill
was kto parliament by the government in
1842, sail Nerd into law. This act repealed all the
old iYlm. Isms compromise was made between
contliothig latemele, mil • permission to use fixed engines,
beige illesidorm grentedunder certain important limitation.,
77 4 =el*, that by providing for an efficient mums
. and migration of the fish to the upper
Anse alone reproduction can mem, an mut-
• mitht be obtained for the increased power of
agline. -It was deemed essential to this measure
art sem date control should be exercised, u it we. im-
milk be peons pee sesslog venom conflicting and 'almo-
nds* bilessle is soma themeskes in all matters. Com-
intigialteen and impactors were appointed under the
plesteinis dthe statute 6th and 6th Viet., c. 106,
MA Sec bad the regulation of close and open seasons
mileinelllnent riven • the regulation of the mashes of nets
end Salm wives, or keen in weirs; end prodding
Oar._. over maned awl artificial obstruction", deeM
=
we fermi to be good, but regained funds to
Vokelory subscription was tried and e
In HO this deficiency was again proved, when the
brought in • bill, which passed into law,
11th and end 12th Viet., c. 92, called the Assessment Act.
tinkle this act Ireland was divided into districts, each
wanacing certain rivers and tributaries, with the mea-
liest attaching; license duties were imposed upon
all 'wines employed, to create fund, ; those who pay the
tax elect representative., who form beanie of conservators, to
apply the funds for protection of the fish ; no portion of those
funds is withdrawn for the expenses
.incurred by the state
in providing commissioners to superintend and effect those
objects of a generally public character before adverted to.
Therefore the principle of the Irish fishing laws may be said
to be etrictly constitutional, the executive government of the
country only permitting interference in those matters when
communities of mixed interests cannot govern themselves.
These laws have worked well, and are approved by the
country; under their salutary influence the salmon fisheries
have improved much, and their commercial Woke is progres-
sively in . Many who at firstopposed are now the
strenuousenZtolders of the lawe, finding-the valuable results
which have ensued after practically testing them.
Mr. HALL, after clearly stating the causes of the decline
in the English salmon flatteries, proposed the following reso-
lution That the fisheries of England and Wales have
greatly deteriorated, and are in progress of decay, and that
in some risen the salmon is almost extinct, and that this
decay. has arisen from want of sufficient laws for protec-
tion.'
Mr. H. HARAItALL, in seconding the resolutien, said that
R ens god of throwing the fly, be had attended that day
el Ric In the objects in view. The question before the
was of great importance to the community at large,
nal hs beeleseld live to see the arrival of that time
Ikea hotbknon would bring salmon within the
meek of poor mamas, who were now not able to purchase
Sewing to its present exorbitant price.
Mr. BTUDDART, in • lengthened statement, exposing the
muses of the deny of the 'f weed salmon fishing*, which he
mainly attributed to the destruction of spawning fish, and
want of protection to the fry, and the over-netting of the
lower waters, proposed the second resolution " That the
present system of regulating the fisheries of Scotland is im
sufficient.'
Mr. Bum, in seconding the resolution, went into a very
interesting statement of the artificial spawning at Stormont-
field pond, Perth. He considered that the Tay fishery was
not falling off, but that the Belling meson was extended to
too late a period, he believing that an earlier close mason
would be attended with the greatest benefit to the Scottish
rivers.
Viscount GAGE was sensible of the practical knowledge
pommeled by the gentlemen who bad addressed the meeting,
end it was a matter In which all meet feel both gratification
and interest that they might consider it perfectly possible, by
legisletive provisions, to increase the salmon in the English
waters without disarranging in the slightest degree the ex-
isting milling and other interests. lie therefore proposed
this resolution "That it is the opinion of this meeting that
there lean absolute necessity for a law by which the system
of government and preservative of the fisheries in England
and Wales should be approxtmeted to that provided by the
recent legislation in Ireland."
Lord OssULsTON had great satisfaction in seconding this
resolution, concurring as he did in the expressions of Viscount.
Gage. He trusted that the meeting would have the effect of
drawing public interest and support to this question, and
eventually restore to the English waters that value to the
eporting and commercial community which the salmon
fisheries elsewhere attained.
Mr. HALLIDAY considered the question one both of morns
Mg and commercial interest, end did not in the least doubt
that with Imitable legislation the salmon fertility of the
English river* might be restored. The breeding grounds
of rivers lay in their higher or upper portions, and according
to the extent of brooding ground was the return of each river.
The proper course was to lay before the public the fact that
this can perfectly be done without thealightest interference with
the exixting milling powers, or in the hest taxing them ; but
while the general fact might be ulinitted, it wits only by form-
ing an meeetation mei a working committee that effect would
be given to general opinion. lie then proposed, " That it is
die able that an association of proprietor' and all other
gentlemen interested in Milgrim be formed, in order
to effect the needful changes in the reeding fishery
laws of England and Wake. That the honorary
secretary be requested to undertake the office of com-
municating with ouch gentlemen, and aeking their ram-
port. That voluntary subscriptions be solicited, for the pur-
pm° of defraying the preliminary expeneee, and that the
hon. seeetary hereafter convene a general meeting far the
purpose' of nominating a committee to aid in carrying out the
views as expressed in the resolutions that have been paired,
and othereme taking such steps as may be best emitted to
carry out practically the objects of the meeting. That Mr.
Francis Bentball, 22, Lincoln's-inn-field.. bo requested to
act es honorary secretary in the formation of such sem-

cistion."
Mr. BRUNTON seconded the resolution, ant felt assured
that tho subject was one which would obtain groat public in-
terest, as it so fully deserved. It was a great question—the
queen= of food, in which ell had an intere4—whether the
•Ipinions universally expressed by naturalism and practical
fishermen should be disregarded, and the salmon one of our
most valuable fish, should be lost to a large portion of this

idol&
The foregoing resolutions having been unanimounly carried,
the meeting die oleed with a vote of thanks to the chairman,

ILLNESS OF MR. PALMER, M.P. FOB BERES.—
The report of the dinar of lir. Palmer. who ban represented
Berkshire in parliament for upwards of thirty 1 ears, has
created much sensation in the county. The bon*. gentleman
attended the Ana TRW& with a number of friend:, on the
..Cup-day," and appeared as bade and hearty as usual, but
in the afternoon a violent hemorrhage at the noes set in.
The uaistance of emethell gentleman nem Aeeot was quickly
obtained, and the bleeding still continuing increased the
anxiety of the hon. gentleman's friends, and they caused
him to be removed to his seat at 'lobos Park, near Reeding.
Two medical men were then immediately anmnioned to
attend him, and it was not until about 9 o'clock in the
evening that the bemorrhage ems stopped. The loos of
so touch blood left the hon. gentleman in a slat! of great
exhaustion, and for hours afterwards he remained in a eata
that lea many of hie relAtives to believe he !multi not to.
rover. Visitors at Helms Park to make influtrtes after l
and
them gentleman's health have Ficro been very numerous, and
the medical attendants report hint to be progresekng favour-
ably.