The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-04-30 00:00:00

THE FALL OF KAR9

The debate on the fall of Kars was resumed by
Mr. J. G. PIIILLIMORE, who condemned the speech of A'
Whiteside as that of the advocate rather than that of a
and expressed an opinion that some more fitting time might
have been selected by the right honourable member for tile'
display display of his rhetoric, adding, that the destinies of
were not to be swayed by antithesis and gesture. He vindicatel
the conduct of Lord Clarendon, of Lord Panmure, and f„,
Lord Palmerston, charging the whole blame upon tho aPs,t'.„"
of Lord Stratford de Rodcliffe and the imbecility of Soo"'
senator''

Pacha.
Mr. K. SEYMOUR. moved an amendment, to the effect, that
it was inexpedient to express an opinion i
bn
upon the quest
until after the debate upon the treaty of peace had ta
place.the
THE CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that
Government had assumed any responsibility with regardja;
the war in Asia. The importance of the fortress of Kars ” t
recognised both by the English and French Governments,' bug,
it had been felt that it was more important to concentrate t
whole strength of the army against Sebastopol. This wasmza.
kerj"
accordance with the true principles of military strategeY,
with the opinions of the most renowned generals of every offv;
In a strategical point of view, there was no doubt that Kat' wSo,
second to Sebastopol in importance, since
consequence resulted from its capitulation and he referred
~
the proceedings at the Paris Conferences,' in support of 13,.
opinion. With regard to the amendment, he could not adopt
it, as it merely involved a postponement of the snbjectr whi.con,
could be of no advantage. lie looked upon the original won, 0
no operation
t:
as a direct censure on Government, and he called upon
House to give a decision upon that i.
Sir J. PAsTNoTorS concurred inssue the tributes that had bee!
paid to tho bravery of General Williams, and he could at'
but think that if the
General Williams,h iams, e catastrophe
oftn _
have been avoided. With regard to the arguments .
Chancellor of the Exchequer, that Sebastopol was the areal'
point of attack, he remarked upon the importance of ICar4
the possession of which left it open lo Russia to overrun
er
Asia Minor, and to reach the Bosphorus. Ile attributed the
loss of this fortress to the vacillation and want of energy
the part of the Foreign Ministry. He referred, at son2e,
length, to the despatches of Lord Clarendon, in supporting
his views, and concluded by stating his intention of supp
the motion of the hon. and learned member for Enniskillen. ,
Mr. LAYARD reminded the House that he had drawn thou'
attention so long as three years ago to the position of
Minor. For the neglect to provide for the defence f )01
Minor the government of Lord Aberdeen was responsible ; a.
ho could not, by voting for the motion before the House,
attach blame to the present government on account of the
transactions that owed their origin to the neglott of their
predecessors in office. He disputed the expediency of holding
Kars, and expressed an opinion that General Williams should
have retreated to the ridge of mountains between liar's and

Erzeroum.
Mr. MAGUIRE supported the motion condemning the con,
of Lord Stratford de Redcliffe.
Sir W. HE ATRCOT E supported the amendment of gr•
Seywer.
Mr. WARREN thought that the motion ought to be met witit
a direct negative.
Mr. SERGEANT SHEE strongly defended the conduct of
Lord Palmerston.
Sir E. B. LYTTON moved the adjournment of the debate.
Lord PALMERSTON resisted the motion.
Mr. DISRAELI supported the motion for adjournraent•
The House divided when the numbers appeared.-
173
For adjournment
243
Against it

Majority....
Mr. MArmis moved" that the House do now adjourn.
at
Lord PALMERSTON' opposed the motion, but viatild
object to the debate bairn: adjourned to Thursday, TI'M
agreed to, and the House adjourned at a quarter to one o'4-'4

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SUSPICIOUS CASE OF DEATH,—The coroner opened
inquest, yesterday, on the body of John James Brown' a,
coloured seamen, who resided at 22 Court, Maguire-stre
and who was twenty-two years old. From the evidence 01
a female, named Anne Johnston, in whose house the
deceased lodged, it appeared he was married to but
twat
oung
woman, named Margaret Dunce, on Friday week, f
they lived very unhappy since that time, in consequence
another man, named Campbell, The deceased died on
Monday, and from certain matters that transpired, and the
symptoms which preceded death, it was stated that strocog
suspicions of foul play attaches to some one. A rnedi
gentleman is at present engaged in making the necessary
examination of the body. The jury viewed ehth remain!
yesterday, and the coroner adjourned the inquest to a"
twelve o'clock this day.