The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-01-30 00:00:00

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/Imam Am I•a Christian man? do I possess any intia-
ewe in the world ? and am I able to do anything for the
pnrmse of preventing those unmitigated evils ?" (Hear,

creature

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beai.) The only war, sir, I can dell with the question
is just to trace the career of an individual criminal. Fre-
quently he is born of parents who are themselves the
victims of intemperance and of vice. In many cases his
very parents are unknown to him. He has never known
the blessing of a mother's smile. Tie has never felt the soft
and sweet endearments, to which the Rector has alluded,
of domestic life. Clothed in rags, in some filthy court,
vveltring in'squalor, enduring the crsvings of hunger and
the winds of winter—no eye has pitied his infantile suf-
ferings, no voice has warned him, no hand has guided
him,, there has been none to bless him. Hie habits have
been those of the animal. His language, caught from the
intercourse amidst which he has been living, has been
bTich.emY—his very prayers have been oaths and curses.
s little creature, sir, infests our markets, our dock
quays, and our public thoroughfares, that he may
pick up garbage with which to allay the' pangs of hunger.
He begins bystanding petty larceny. He robs under a s
in one of our markets. Last of all he picks a pocket, and
emboldened by success and the glittering prize which
would enable hire to allay his hunger, enable him to
possess animal enjoyments and gratifications, he goes on
pursuing his course from little to more, until at last he is
detected and sent before a magistrate. Now. sir, is the
critical period of the young criminal's life. The case is
proved and he is sent to gaol. Now commences his edu-
cation. He is taught there by the experience of older
thieves how he may elude suspicion and rob so that he
shall escape detection, and for a few years he pursues
his course. At an early age, sir, he almost invariably
forms an illicit connection with some of those abandoned

females to whom Mr. Mansfield so feelingly alluded, and
so he goes on, until his final transportation from this
country, the subject of continual prosecutions, living half
his time in our gaols, inflicting upon us the cost of
clothing him and feeding him, until, after he bas cost us
some 2001 or 3001, he is finally sent away to a penal
settlement—a what ? An intellectual and living being,
useless to his country, and his life a:burthen to himself.
This is the career of many of our criminals. He has been
the victim of circumstances. Did seelety expee'

it would find angels, air, among children who have had the
education of devils ? Now, sir, I would ask if that ne-
glected creature had been transferred to an educational
reformatory, while young, while his mind was compara-
tively untainted, where he would have had physical, men-
tal, and religious teaching, and would have acquired a
knowledge of moral obligation, where he would have been
separated from the companionship of prostitutes and
thieves, and whence, after having been thus trained, he
would have been sent to some honest occupation, how

lot have been his lot

are constantly

Jefore the magistrates in the court, boys Of
such-di-minitive stature, that their heads scarcely reach
above the table; and nothing can give one more anxiety
and pain than to know what to do with them. (Hear,
hear.) Send Hum to gaol, and you send them to a school
where they will be educated in crime. Discharge them,
and you send them back to the society from whence they

appeal, and in a few weeks hunger drives them aga
th.ft, and they are again brought before the magic..
Now, sir, what are we to do ? The question must be in-
qnired into, are we to go on building gaols for ever? In this

reds of

in,' up to be criminals, and if we do not do something with
them, depend upon it that we shall have to maintain and
feed them, and, eventually, transport them. ((Tear, hear.)
We have just expended an amount of 160,000/ or 170,000/,

to build •Che new gaol at Walton, to accommodate 1,000
criminals, and it is almost full. If the pre ient state of
things goes on for a much longer time, if we do nothing to
prevent crime, rather than to punish it. in a very few

years more, we shall have to spend 160,0001 more.- Far
better would it be to build a reformatory, and to do some-
thing to prevent crime, rather than attempt to crush it
(Hear hear.) Ido not wish it to go forth to th

public.

that even with these reformatories and their training, we
can expect to have our gaols empty. No, sir, unfortu-
nately not—intoxication has its victims. I happened to
be the magistrate upon the day to which the Rector
referred. There were 205 cases ; I counted them, sir,
and 141 of these cases were cases of drunkenness
and disorderly conduct arising from it, and the rem7indcr,
or at least the majority of them, crimes committed under
the influence of drink, or in consequence of it. Nor. sir,
will education atone prevent our gaols from being filled.

We have seen educated men, nay, sir, we have seen those
who moved in the position of gentlemen, stand at the bar
as well as the poor offscourings of the earth, whom we
desire to protect. The extravagant man who lives beyond
his means, the idle and dissolute man, who will steal rather
than work,—prostitution, intemperance, rage.— all these
have their victims, and all help to fill our gods. (Hear.)
But now, sir, having occupied you so long, pardon me.for
one moment more. I assert if we can nip crime in the
bud, if we can snatch away the juvenile wretch from his
companions in vice, and teach him the way of industry,
and further, if we can fit him to be a seaman, as this
institution is calculated to do, and thus give what the
country.wants—for we shall want more seamen to man
our ships, according as the colonies are increasing, and
trade improving, when we get this war at an end—l
say then, that if we put the juvenile criminal in the way
of getting an industrious living and teach him honesty,
we should be doing mach to IPssen the greatest evils which
afflict society. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I would apologise to
the gentlemen present for making these remarks, but I see
gentlemen here who are sending forth what we say to the
community, and we wish the public mind to be agitated
upon this question, in order that the public may think
about the question before they give us their aid. I ask why
cannot we do in the moral what is done in the physical
world ? The reason is because there is more energy
about things physical than there is in the general heart for
things moral. The most polished stone which decorates
the finest edifice was once unhewn, and rough in the
quarry. The mighty engine which propels the steamer
against the winds and tides, and carries across the
Atlantic's wave, with all its wonderful cranks, and
all its magnificent motions. What was it once ? Moving
as it does in powerful sublimity, it was once, sir, a mass of
iron-stone in the quarry, until it was smelted in the fur-
nace, and reduced by the skill and determination of the
artizan to be the beautiful engine which we all so much
admire. (Hear, hear ) Chemist?v, too, can extract fragrance
even from corruption, and beat from the coldest substances.
Every work of art we see was at one time a rough and
unshapen mass,.until brought into form and made beautiful
by the skill of the artizan. Let us recollect, Mr. Mayor,
that the material which we have to work upon possesses
mind, intelligence humanity, and an immortal soul. The
meanest of the little creatures who stands at the
bar of justice—the poorest little ragged wretch we see
about the streets, pining with hunger, and clothed in rags,
is an immortal creature like ourselves, and if properly. taken
care of, if he had the advantages we have possessed, if he
had had a father to labour for him, and a mother's care to

and to brin

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ttend to him, he m
attain a position even as high

1 you at

Int so wcrthily fill

:heeis.) I say it U, there-

fore, our duty to do something for these poor creatnreS, to
remove them from the stigma and the contempt of the gaol,
and teach them to do their duty both to God and
to man. (Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) Al7l should give
them the means of earning their bread, and direct them in
the path of virtue, honesty, and usefulness, and then we
shall have the gratification of knowing that we have done
our duty, and we may fairly expect the blessing of God
upon our exertions. (Hear, hear, and applause.) Before
sitting down, only one single word. It is a fact painful to
reflect upon, and not creditable to the town of Liverpool,
that the subscriptions to the public institutions can barely
count 2,200 persons, in a population of nearly half a million.
Sir, there is an amazing amount of wealth in this town, which
does not contribute anything to our public institutions
whatever, and the pressure has, therefore, become great
upon the few who do contribute. If people who now
possess the means would only know the luxury of doing
good!—if they would only depend a little lesss upon them-
selves, and look at the state of society in which we are
existing !—a state of society which, if something is not
done for the purpose of amending it, depend upon it
will, at some distant period, in the judgment of
God, bring an explosion upon the country which
will make us regret that we did not 'moue- snatch
away some of our fellow men from the degraded position
they are sunk in at present, and lift them up to the lofty
influences of citizenship, manhood, and Christianity.
(.Applause.) Yes, let rs do this, and do it in the spirit of
Him who went about doing good, and who said—" I was
in prison, and ye visited me ;" and, " Inasmuch as you
have done this to the least of my disciples, you have done it
'unto me." (Applause.) Sir, most cordially do I second
the resolution proposed by Mr. Mansfield. (Loud applause)

• .
The Rev. Mr. Bishop supported the resolution, and in
doing so begged to be allowed to take exception to an
expression used by the preceding speakers in calling the
in.titution an experiment. It was not an experiment.
(Hear, hear.) The system of reformatory institutions had
been tested under various circumstances not only on the
Continent in those schools of which they heard so much
within the last few years, but also tested in a country more
closely resembling England—he meant the United States.
More than thirty years az° a reformatory on a large scale
was established in New York, a city very like Liverpool in
the cbaracter of its population and condition of trade. He
visited that institution in 1852, and he found there about
400 boys and 100 girls in separate but contiguous buildings.
Every thing he saw in connection with it proved the
soundness of the system, and the results had been equally
satisfactory. (Hear, hear.) Since the establishment of the
institution there had gone out from it upwards of six thou-
sand young people—(hear, hear)—and he had been informed
by the governor of it that about three-fourths of that num-
ber had been knowr to have been permanently reclaimed.
(Hear, hear.) That, the reverend gentleman declared, was
an all-sufficient proof of the soundness of the system, and he
contended that by a like management the same result might
be produced in Liverpool.
The resolution was unanimously adopted.
Mr. J. C. Ewart, M.P., in moving the appointment of
the committee, said that after the very able speeches they
had heard, he would not occupy their time by any
lengthened observations. In such a port as Liverpool the
temptations to juvenile crime were very great. The
merest children were sent down by their parents to the
docks to steal what they oould lay their hands on, and
when brought un at the police courts, the great difficulty
which the magistrates experienc.d was in determining
wbst to do with them. The object of all punishment was
the prevention of crime—(Hear, hear)—and if the magis-
trates sent them to jail they sent them only where they
would be further contaminated, and from which they
would come out worse than when they had entered. They
were now going. to try another experiment, and he hoped
that it would be successful. (Hear, hear.) In Liverpool
they had peculiar advantages to aid them in making the
experiment. They would have opportunities of sending tha
boys to sea, and so find employment for them, and by
that means he trusted they would be able to prevent the
juvenile delinquencies which, unfortunately, to so great an
extent prevailed in Liverpool. (Hear, hear.) In conclu-
sion the hon. gentleman moved shat the following gentlemen
constitute the committee :—Rev. Rector Campbell, 3. S.
Mansfield, Esq.; W. Rathbone, Esq. ; G. Holt, Esq. ; H. Ban-
ner, Esq. ; J. A. Tobin, Esq.; John Wybergb, jun., Esq. ;
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. -,oSranmblyte, Esq. •, John North, Esq. ;1 Martin, Esq. ; Charles
Wm. Mann, Esq.; Henry Romilly, Esq.; S. it. Graves,
Esq. ; John Clint, Esq. ; John Aikin, Esq. ; Rev. F.
Bishop, Captain Schomberg, R.N.I Samuel Rathbone,
El. ; J. Wakefield Cropper, Esq. ; J. P. Palmer, Esq. ;
3. Woodruff, Esq. T. D. Anderson, Esq., Treasurer.
John Cropper, Esq , James R. Brougham, Secretaries.
Mr. J. A. Tobin seconded the resolution. He said that
had it not been for the remarks of Mr. Holme and the pre-
ceding speakers, showing how much the public were in iglu>:

rance"with reference to rfustitutions of this kind, he would
not think it necessary to say a word in seconding the resolu-
tion, but u it seemed desirable that the question should be
fully discussed, in order that it might be better understood,

he would, with their permission, trouble them with a few
ohser,vations. Ilear,:hear.) When the late Mr. Rushton
lived amongst them the subjeettof a reformatory institution
was discussed, but it was found that the law was so defec-
!live that it was thought desirable, before anything was done
In it, that the subject should ba brought under the notice of
the legislature, in order that a remedy for those defects
might be provided, In 1854. Lord ealmerston brought in
a bill on the:subject providing a remedy for many of the
existing defects, but though from a variety of circumstances
the establishment of a reformatory institution in the town
had to be kept in abeyance, it was never 'yet lost sight of,
until it was brought before them in its present form. (Hear
hear.) There were one or two points which it was desira-
ble they should bear in mind, when as magistrates they were
called upon to punish poor children. They should ascertain
whether society had performed its duty towards them, and
and they should -
to discriminate far as possible,
snow, sir, I

endeavour, .8
Tea those who wilfully com-
those who were forced to it.
treat in the same way those
heir parents to steal,
the wretched

mitted crime,
Surely it would be wrong
children who had ben sent out I

home their nefarious ryairs, an

and degraded parents themselves, who placed their offspring
in the way of pollution and c-ime ? (Bear, hear.) They
should also ascertain whether the present system of reforma-
tory training had been effective where it had been else-
where tried, and thus be enabled to form an idea of the
probabilities of its success amongst themselves. In 1850,
a special committee was appointed by the National Assembly
of. France to inquire into the operations of the system in
that institution at Mettray, which 'formed the basis of al-

most all the institutions of the kind, in this and other
countries. The committee reported entirely in its favour,
and that the problem of juvenile reformation by labour,
with strict discipline, combined with kindness, had been
completely .and satisfactorily solved. (Hear, and
cheers.) It was important that they should bear in mind
some facts in connection with the subject. In France, in
1830, the recommittals to prison of juvenile offenders was
about l 9 per cent. In 1843 it increased to something like
39 per cent., and even in some of the large towns to so much
as 50 per cent. The authorities, upon that state of facts.
took 500 of the juvenile prisoners and sent them to the in-
t Mettray.. And what was the result ? That the

recommittals subsequently Edid not exceed five per cent.
(Hear.) That simple fact would bear out the argument
urged by the Rev. Mr. Bishop, when he said that, out of
the 13,G00 children in Liverpool, a very large proportion,
if not all, might be reformed. As regarded the new law,
it had the great advantage that, though the children might

be removed from their parents, the latter would still-be
called on to provide for their maintenance. He did not
think it necessary to go any further into details on the
subject. It had been fully discussed, and their duty, now,
was to urge on the community at large to come forward
liberally with their subscriptions in support of the institu-
tion,—(Hear, hear)—and, if generous aid were afforded, it
would not be from want of zeal on the part of the com-
mittee, if the,mass of juvenile crime in Liverpool was not
soon diminished: (Hear, hear.)

Mr. W. Rathbone sepported the resolution. He adduced
the working men of Dundee supporting, the ragged
school of that town, as a proof that the poor were ready to
aid in every work for the advantage of society, and he
hoped that, by the results which would flow from reforma-
tory institutions, and from the labours of the society for
erecting suitable houses for the working class, the saying of
Charles Lamb's would be reversed, and " the home of the
poor man be no longer a fallacy." (Hear, hear.)
The Rev. Mr. Carter, in supporting the resolution, urged
that some steps should be also taken to stop the supply,
which would otherwise go to swell the existing mass of
juvenile crime, and that the paternal responsibility should
be stringently enfoned. The principle was recognised by
the act, and whenever they took the child from the parent,
because of his neglect, and of his suffering it to be brought
up in wicked courses, they should not relieve him of the
responsibility to pay for its mainteuance. (Hear, hear.)
It was one of the best means to cut off the supply to the
'ranks of juvenile criminals, to make the parent suffer in
his pocket, as the consequences of his neglect to his child ;
and as this responsibility of the parent, in duch cases, was
becoming generally known, he could observe a shaking
among the leaves—a stir among the criminal population, at
the serious aspect which the matter was assuming. They
did not care much about their children being in gaol, but
when they found that they would have to pay for them,
they were seriously alarmed. (Hear, hear.) At that
very morning, at an early hour, a father, whose son was
now in the gaol, and who was about to be sent to the
Refoimatory, came to him (Rev. Mr. Carter) and en-
deavoured
to show that he should not be made to pay for
his son's support. The man had been himself discharged
from gaol in Ootober, after undergoing a term of imprison-
ment, for an assault on his step-child, and he had been
sent there on the complaint of his wife, who was herself
now suffering two months' imprisonment, for having_ sent
her child to steal clothes off a line. Mr. Holme had drawn
a touching and feeling picture of the progress of the juvenile
criminal, and he (Mr. Carter) could bear his testimony that
it was not in the slightest exaggerated. He would
narrate an instance—he would take the unhappy
perpetrator of the Wolfe-street murder. He had
been nineteen times in gaol, and the murdered woman
twenty-six tides. and both of them had commenced their
career of crime as juveniles. If they had been taken to a
reformatory before they had become hardened in crime,
their fate would undoubtedly have been different. From the
character of the murdered woman's mind, he was convinced
she might have easily been reformed when young, and that
chance not having been given her, she had been sent before
her time, " unhonsled, unanointed, unannealed, and
with all her imperfections on her head," before her God,
while the murderer awaited his doom, and might have to
expiate his crime on the scaffold. The rev. gentleman then
pointed out that great temptation to theft was held out
to young children in the manner in the manner in which
goods were exposed at shop doors and in the docks, and
observed that this practice, because in many cases tempting
to evil, should be suppressed. He also urged that the pre-
sent system of gaol discipline might be improved, and pain-
fully illustrated the evils of inten.perancc in the lamentable
case of the starvation of the Aspinall children by their
wretched mother.
The resolution was unanimously adopted.
Mr. John Cropper, in moving that the thanks of the
meeting be given to the Mayor, oserved that they had got
a considerable number of donations, but that the support of
the institution must mainly depend on annual subscriptions.
They should supply the committee with £2,000 a year at
least before the efficiency of the institution could be devel-
oped ; and when they looked at the princely palace erected
ou Brownlow-hill for their paupers, at a cost of £105,000,
surely it was not a great thing to ask from the community
of Liverpool so small a sum as £2,000, to do so much good,
and effect such great services to society as he was satisfied
would flow from the work they had in hand. (Hear, heap.)
Mr. T. D. Anderson seconded the motion. In doing so
he said that as chairman of the Executive Committee
perhaps he might be allowed to say a word in explanation
on the apparent delay in establishing the reformatory. He
could assure them that there had been no unnecessary delay,
and that the committee had done all in their power to have
it established sooner, but owing to the changes in the
government at the commencement of last year, the committee
had not
hnotadbeen put in possession of the Akbar until June last.
still a difficulty in getting land, but they hoped
that a nobleman, who had large property in the neighbour-
hood, would either give or lease them a piece of land suited
for the purpose. They had received application within the
last month from the magistrates of Warrington to know if
the committee would take some of their juvenile criminals
on their bearing a proportion of the expenses of the institu-
tion, but if any such applications were entertained, the
committee would take care that they did not deprive them-
selves of the power of taking in the children for whom the
institution had been established. (Hear, hear.) In con-
clusion Mr. Anderson stated that ma boys had been sent
from the reformatory at Hardwike to serve the purpose of
the mare easily leading the boys on board the Akbar to
order and obedience.
The motion was unanimously adopted.
The meeting then separated.

EASTERN COUNTIES RAILWAY.
♦

The adjourned meeting of the shareholders of this company
took place yesterday at 12 o'clook, at the London Tivern, for
the purpose of receiving the report of the scrutineers of the
poll on Mr. Goodson's amendment to dissolve the Committee
of Investigation; the effect of which was to reinstate Mr.
Waddington as chairman of the company, with the full confi-
dence of the shareholders. The meeting was not so numerous
as on former occasions, the room not being more than half
filled. Mr. Waddington took the chair shortly after twelve
o'clock, and was received with immense cheers and mingled
hisses and groans.
The Chairman then rose and said he had received a letter
from Sir Charles Morgan and Mr. Whetham, the scrutineers,
who reported the following as the result of the poll :
For Mr. (Godson's Amendment.
Personal 5
votes... 12
1,17
L 2747:
Proxies 83,81) (0 Vo:,es
147:011141

- -
712 1,452,220 Votes 21,125
Against the Amendment.
Personal votes 508 £695,280 Votes 11,710
Proxies ... , 175 231,500 7, 3,994

927,480 Votes 16,704
Majority for the Amendment.
Proprietore, Stock Votes
29 524,740 5,421
Mr. Buller, amidst much confusion and laughter, said the
majority of the proxies in favour of Mr. Waddington were
those of ladies and ladies' maids. Mr. Ball, M.P., said that
although Mr. Waddington had obtained a legal triumph, thi
committee bad obtained a moral triumph. If the case had been
before a committee of the House of Commons, he felt satisfied
that the result would have been not only the ejection of Mr.
Waddington from his seat as chairman of the board, but from
his seat in that house. A long and animated discussion then
followed, but no decision was come to. The general feeling of
" the opposition" seemed to be acquiescence in the result of
the poll, with a determination to try the question again at the
February meeting,

SELECT VESTRY.-YESTERDAY,
e

The usual• fortnightly meeting was held yesterday at the
board-room, in the public-offices, Brownlow-hill, the Rev.
Rector Campbell presided. Tke other vestrymen present
were, Messrs Woodruff. Shaw, Crawford, Bold, Owen, Denton
Mellor, W. Jones, J. Jones, Hand, Satchell, Chesney
Bairstow, Taylor, Whitty, Wensley, Whitby, Bradley, Fair-,
hurst, Brucker, H. Jones, and Luff.
The minutes of the last meeting were read and conilrmed.
From the report of the workhouse committee it, appeared
that during the past week 87 males, 102 females, and 18
children, had visited the vagrant sheds; and from the report
of the master of the workhouse, it appeared that there were
2649 paupers in the house, including 708 cases of sickness,
48 fever cases, and 57 cases of itch. In tho course of the
proceedings of this committee allusion had been made to a
complaint made against an officer connected, as was supposed,
with the West Derby union, for alleged improper conduct,
stating that the clerk had placed the facts before that board,

a which,

Mr. Wensley, who is a member of the West Derby board
of guardians, said that there had been some mistake made in
the matter, as the person complained of had nothing what-

ev.er.to do with that board, but was a servant of the overseer

for the na

sh of Tox

,h-park

esney contended that they were all the same body

The Clerk said that was not the case, as the person was
appointed, as Mr. Cleaver had informed him, by the Toxteth-
park vestry, which was quite a separate body from the West
Derby guardians.

Mr. -Jones said they were an unmanageable body, and the

motion had better be passed over.

The proceedings of the committee were then confirmed. as
were also those of the Industrial Schools, Kirkdale, committee.
The proceedings of the medical relief committee were then
read. The clerk had proceeded as far as that portion which
recommended that ar application should he made to the poor•
law board to sanction the increase of the salaries of Messrs.
Ayton and Games £5 per annum, as recommended by the
vestry, for the increased duties they had to perform at the
stores, when

Mr. Bradley said he thought such a subject had no right to
bo men tinned.

called upon the clerk to proceed with the

Mr. Woodruff
reading of the minutes

Mr:Bradley said the vestry would see the impropriety of

g so afterwards

Mr. Woodruff : It is mentioned in the minutes, and it must
be read.

Mr. Chesney : It appears very strange that when Mr.
Bradley opens his mouth vll the other persons must hold-their
tongues. (Laughter.) _ _ _

.
The Clerk then proceeded with the reading of the minutes,
after which a desultory conversation ensued, in the course of
which it.was elicited that the vestry had, on a previous occasion,
recommended that the increase should be made.
The Chairman : Do these men perform any additional
duties ? If so, they have a right to be paid.

Mr. Bradley : They do—such duties as were not in their

agreement when appointed

-In this report the chairman informed the committee that
he, in company with Mr. Shaw and Ayton, had visited Rain-
hill Asylum for the purpose of ascertaining the probable number
of lunatics, chargeable to Liverpool, that might be safely
removed to the workhouse, and had received an answer that
there were many who might be removed, of which a careful
investigation should he made, and a list prepared.
After a brief conversation on that subject, in the course of
which a vestryman expressed it as his opinion that no person
had a right to take that duty upon himself, without first
consulting the board, the entire proceedings were con-
firmed.

The Finance Committee reported to the board that they
had considered the qualifications of the several candidates for
the situation of out-door inspector; they had first reduced the
number to eight, but bad subsequently reduced the number
to three, namely, Messrs. J. W. Hughes, Charles Robinson,
and E. Roberts, one of whom was eligible to be elected.
During the time the clerk was reading the proceedings of
this committee, :there was such confusion in the board-room
that the chairman had, more than once, to call the select vestry-
men to order, and informed them that it was impossible that
they could known what was going► on if they did not listen to
the minutes of the committee, which really were of the utmost

importance.
Mr. Whitty wished to know why the name of one person,
who had at a former meeting of the vestry been all but elected
to fill the place, had been, by the committee, excluded from
the list. He alluded to Mr. Lamphier. He (Mr. Whitty)
had been informed that that person's name had been excluded
from the list on the motion of one of the members of that
committee, because he looked upon him as having disqualified
himself, for having, after being attacked by Mr. Btadley at
the board, written a letter to the newspapers to defend
himself. If such was the case he should move that his name
be added to the list.
Mr. Woodruff said to some extent such a feeling did
prevail. There were eleven of the committee present, out
of whom seven thought him disqualified for that reagon
Mr• Jones wished to know why it was that 72 out of 75
candidates had been laid on one side. Was it for similar

reasons ? (Cries of No, no.)
Mr. Whitty thought that it was not a reasonable ground to
disqualify a person. Mr. Lamphier had been attacked by
Mr. Bradley, which no doubt that gentleman thought it his
duty to do, and was it for defending himself that he was to be
disqualified ? He thought it a most unfair act on the part
of the finance committee to have taken such a course.
Mr. Woodruff : The committee thought that he was dis-
qualified for filling the office.
Mr. Luff, as one of the committee, said that Mr. Bradley
had nothing whatever to do with the matter. He (Mr. Luff),
consWered a man who would rush into print and lampoon a
member of the board, unfit to he a servant of it.
Mr. Whitty said he considered, under the circumstances of
the case, it to be his duty to move that Mr. Lamphier's name
be added to the list. Let him have fair play at any rate.
The Chairman said, after the resolution which had been
agreed to by the board, and the instructions to the committee,
he could not put the motion.
Mr. Whitty : If we vote for him, and ho has a majority,
will he be elected ?
Mr. Bradley : No, certainty not.
The Chairman : The resolution you put was a very stringent
one, and he can only be elected by rescinding that resolution.
The board then divi4ed, when there were nineteen votes
for Mr. 'Hughes, six for Mr. Robertson, and one for Mr.
Roberts-. The former gentleman was therefore elected, and
the proceedings of the committee were confirmed.
MR. BRADLEY AND MR. DIGNAN.
The clerk then read the following report Cf a special
committee, in reference to the dispute between the above two
parties. . . .

The special committee which was appointed by the Select
Vestry on the 18th Dreember last, to investigate a charge
made in the following terms by Mr. Dignan, the editor of
the Liverpool Chronicle, against Mr. Bradley, a member
of the board, viz. :
"He (the editor) was not singular in the belief that a con-
siderable number of the Doctor's supporters in Vauxhall
Ward are the recipients of parish relief, at the expense of
the struggling ratepayers of Liverpool."