The Express.
London, England, 1850-08-05 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
THIS DAT.
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THE BARON DR ROTH/CHILD.
Mr. J. A. SMITH Mlemodie ask etseetlas of thee
whether whoa the hes. itraber be Laidig' leek the st the
bib met Mean ow kb weeriewee, be 'ivied the dear
radek wed whith bad, aot bees resorded at the votes with
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amid Seeteredea, aid third", it AM set appear as the
new (Reef, hem) 7.dilis bat. member fer Lealea
hail takes the emir he • , set prepared by the
dark se was wend, eall the of whisk be wee
sweet. As he esaestred the oath was beermplete it was I
duty set te pet the derierstlea is the vette.
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that dm sisbelaase se the oath suet be taken • sad the gm.
Ilea was wWsise the foreaseald be varied. It was admitted
that the sOM.let We. 13, did relate M Mkt MAINZ
By 10th maks of that met it wee .sated "that se pass
being • peer or member of the House of Guesses,, should
sit or vote till be had taken the oath of abjuration aforesaid.
He bed followed this motion as clout, as possible, sad was of
'plaice that the Bares Rothschild had not taken the oath
of Miami= asserding to law, and as • ne-
'seem cansirgeoner, he tumid not sit of vote to that house.
It mussiaed to oswelder whether soy farther or ulterior
Nimbi le takes, and he was of opinion that
tllhe74Z aft be takes. Re was, hawses; of elision that
the mat wai net Taoist, although he weld sot vote or sit
until be had takes the oak. Than was, thistifem, no
pewee ia the house te issue a new writ. • question was
raised whether tie 13th William IV. was in forte, sad the
penalties toad be enforetd. The pswalUes for sitting and
voting are solely in consequeses of • atenstitt's
sot taking the oath ; and hare the Won had
mot seised to take the oath., sew had be sat
and voted. By the law as at present raisttag, they
woofs this politico. that • member of the Jewish poser
skit, having been elected to parliament, could not take his
seat without taking the oath of abjuration, but that the seat
was not vaeaat. He bad examined the journals to
see if there wm any law or usage 'applicable
to this ease, bat there was no initiate, with
tho exception of Mr. O'Connell, of • member taking
two oaths and refuges the third, or any instance of a mew
Weeded*, to take the oath of abjuration. Both by statute
law and wage of parliament, the seat was not vacant,
and the house could not order • new writ to issue. The
law, then, was of a most monstrous description,
• member was re•urned by • constituency, and yet by an
oath which was idly imposed, and by a form of words which
contemplated the exclusion of gentlemen of the
Jewish persuasion, the constituency of this member wore
depalved of his manilas. Although the law was binding
on them it was preposterous that it should prevent such a
gentleman taking his seat. It was thereto, incumbent on
the house to pledge themselves to pass a law remedying
sub • state of things. If it were possible in the present
auks to pass such • law, he would have imm-
inent a hill, but at that was not feasible, he
tribal to 'sledge the house by • resolution early is next
soli., to do away with this m >nitrous state of things. It
mowed to him that it was for the benefit of the baron, and
ate it for those Rondonia who desired that he should sit in
lbe hews, that the conditions he asked them to come to was
ismiletent with law. If the bans were permitted to hike
his mat ea opportunity would be gives to the lords to say
teat there was no necessity torsos • law to enable Jowl to
sit in parliament,when the house had already decided *a that
question. The result would be disastrous, for he believed
that the baron would not practically mew* to take his seat,
end no lawyer would advise him that he could do so,
without incurring the penalties of 13th Geo. let. Being a
geed. man ensage_d in commerce, if he were liable to those
penalties he said not bring an 'sties ,• and the question
might thus be felted on appeal before the Hem of Lords.
The hots. member for Montrose had propred an amendment
sot materially differing from hie, except that it proposed to
patpons the deeisiou. This appeared to be only one step
lass it to the hon. member for Leaden than • vote
that he might sit would be. It would be an argument of the
opposeuts of any bill that might be brought in, that the
house bad not determined whether the Baron could take his
seat on taking the oath of abjuration in the form in
which he had taken P. If they decided that the
law was as be had suggested, a more monstrous
state of things could not be, and they were justified
la calling on the legislature to alter it. It bad been
suggested that the amendment might held in tterorsem over
ano:her branch of the legislature, the probability that if they
did not pees a bill to remedy the evils of the law, that
the house would then come to a judicial di cession on the
subject. Bub • course wend not be consistent with the
dignity and homer of the house. It had beta suggested
that if the Beroa were allowed to sit, a bill of indemnity
might be passed, but that would raise the same guides,
and be doing that by a sidewind which ought to be done
openly and manfully. For these reasons he called oa the
hem to pas the two etiolation be had peeposed, which
would be more consistent with the dignity of the house
sad the benefit of the boo. member. He could not conclude
withent expressing his sense of the propriety sad moderation
is the conduct of the boo. member for London, and which
had caused • feeling of regret that the state of the
law should exclude a gentleman so worthy of a seat in
the house, and so capable of twisting them in their
deliberations. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman moved:
" 1. That the Baron Lionel de Rothschild it not entitled to
vote in this house, or to sit in this hones during any debate,
need he shall take the oath of a bjuratiou in the form sp-
rigged by law. 2. That this house will, at the earliest
appertuaity, in the next session of parliament, take into
oeseideration the form of the oath of abjuration, with • view
to ram bet Majesty's subjects prefiadag the Jewish
Minks."
Mr. HUME said he always madders& the law gave the
Baron Rothschild the power of °math( to the
_ Item and
taking the oaths sad his seat. Whim he beard the Attorney-
Omani say that e 0 monstrous • state of things as he had
dessribeit had existed for three years he could not but
woader that it should have so long cantianod. He hoped
the hon. member for Abingdon would now admit, after the
speech of the Attorney-General, that the motion he made
was futile. The bares, in his (Mr. Huses's) opinion, had
taken the oaths, sad was entitled to take his seat. The act
of Geom. I. had been referred to, but why had not
the sabsigneat ads, which provided for such • case,
been mentiesed ? By 10 *Merge I, e. 4, par
liassent provided the very altered= now sought.
It expressly provided that whenever any Jew
wa about to take the oath of abjuration the words " ea the
true faith of a Christian" should be omitted. There wes
Bethany a that every Jew should be allowed to omit
theses By 13th Gee. 111. c, 7, it was provided that
these words 'Meld be omitted by a person of the Jewish
persuesi•aa whenever he should appear to take the oaths.
If there tram say doubt, Lord Deunua's act, 1 and 2 Viet.,
'3.105 put the matter at rest, whit& pravided that the oath
of abjuration souldjba telepathy a Jew without the words in
gaieties. It was this which induced him (Mr. Hume) to
say that the basca when he first minted himself should
not withelsaw, but take his seat, sad he (Helium), had he
been in his place, would have takes hie seat, red nor the
MMus of Incoming the usable& All that was wasted
was that la this admitted preposterous state of the
how house should not prejudge tibe quwdi is was due the
resolution of the him. and leasued 'esm.. TM
which existed might to be set at Net et ease by es ail of
Parliament, and it ought not Piave bola so Mos peelessed.
He hoped the government meld set throw tsar wag&
into the stale against the He wished the
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