The Express.
London, England, 1857-07-17 00:00:00

PARLIAMENTARY OATHS BILL

THE MEETING OF LIBERAL MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE OF COMMONS.— (YESTERDAY.)
(Cow Wed from ralstAses Aram)

Yr Quern:an rid, e • nem mina's 1 the Hems of
Comm% WO some imiinities in presseding Wm& to
repose the diet feeelatics; bud his -wieleoshiesp for se doing
nee emeht the het time he won d with Boron
Ilethschild in the eipmeselellen of the City of laud.., and
ieW therefore be mania es the .greet ea that ocossios
el his muttered, el lie Mims. (Dew, hem) It was fa the
mar lita time the ahem of Loudest Mt ideend Bens
Mbechild to them Is leitkeherasedmesetheinen
of tbe Home Who with regard le this ipmelenarimen
Rothschild pima hie out the dispeed el the
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the• k
ml eempeol their initelkm spin le ranat Murat se
be wee opposed by *Bondmen vim might be
genied se•
ir sepremnistive lOW IMF Mb" Vero M-
ole omee Ueda ambilitiem they keen
timt the mmit nes the Mier ilbeenthisio et end
OM petty. At
the *Mimi in Ilia Brea Ilethechild wee mph Mama;
end toribtr, at the mud election, his name wee reed ea
the poll. Their those eirommtanose, it be tiV
R eels
that the ClielLandlen had dnuly mthend be the 4
Notarehild Ea ite meesiemett es.
rhstrShe esmevel 1 J Melt dYehitir we sentemel
end •10.1/411/4i.t111 the gemenniest 1 Lad dein Rue-
s" eddierwisi by the poorest 1 Lord
Abewillem, end seer by the _
.._e .1 Lori Moreton ;
end the thee thee the ems Iwol Um by esnomeire
permsomees amok he est hod also the
=lof the mews, t append, thoodorm dot the
ot Inaba, the nemstry begs, es shown by the
majorities in the Mr of Oseimeem and the cum were
en of or mind. The may bolemet be the cemetuy which
as not is emend with thin as tOs_rissisa um the
Home of Leeds ; gad OM _her W issided by • swami, y
did that se fir es labials was .eased the mansion
amid worth Is theme= hr einther your. flaw was this
.tees Odin. te ausibme flt tumid net be spooled that
the City of Laths weal tette her the whim which it
bed sesumei—ttheurid—maither meld it le ompeeted by
the RIM of Commas would do so, eosin the* it bed by a
el Inidesided la Omer of the misdeed's of the Jews.
Tinier ihre eirameimmtie, he hoped stem amid be tahos
he Minim; the geed sue tir all to • settirmat ;
mod with • view be the essomplislimest of tint gout, be
ma le IMMO the hig rembidien:—" Thee the time
hasMa amtved whim the khillevw
vaned et the seineval of
Jewish dimbilities sheath be ; sod censidering
the remend meedlinnitime et *Mr is the Ilense Of Com-
mons and M the ennetry b bow of this em of policy end
justice, .11 the 'regime if the liberal party Amid lOW be
united toward. its assomplithment."
Mr. Dtu.orri, In gesemlingthensolutices, mid it silkiest
• princi in whisk he enppesed, they
though ple there might be considerable hibrenelmert
opinion as to the mode of carrying it out. The
hat. esendor wee prorainag to ex plain his motives is
giving the notice at masa Warred to by the chairman,
mien _ _

Mr. (hung row Is war, and observed that the hon.
ntrenter ought to cads@ himself to the resolution before the
meeting.
This view apprarin it to be shared in by the meeting, Mr.
Diller/a contented himself with seconding the resolution,
which was afterwards put, and carried unanimously.
Viscount EIMINGTON, who appeared not to be aware that
the resolution had been adopted, expressed a desire to be in-
formed in what mews the phrase •• the time is now came
wee to be understood, adding that, in his opinion, that ad-
vanced period of the session was too late for action on the
part of the Howe of Commons, and that it should be post-
poned till the dna day of the next session. (Loud cries of
•• Oh, oh.")
The noble lord was her, reminded by the Chairman that
the resolution had been carried, and ha thereupon resumed
his wet_
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Mr. M. MILNU said his noble friend Lord Goderich had
been invited to propeeo this resolution, and having been m-
inuted by domestic cimumstantwe from attending the tow-
ing, he had been requested to Purply his place. Ho nave to
propose :—.That Mr. Dillwyn bo regorged to gooponc the
motion of which be has given notice in relation to Baron
Rothechnd until the bill which Loni John Russell is to sok
leave to introduce on Friday next shall hare been disposed
of." (Cries of "No, no.") He proponed this resolution be.
ague he thought it very dentrable that the liberal party
' should be united on Hall question, and he Deed hardly Pa,
that in • union of the liberal party Lord John Russell •
name onfht to vent for more than a unit. The pompons-
nwnt of Mr. Dilleryn's motion would not in any degree pre-
judice the question. Lord John Romers bill was a
to extend to the two boors of parliament the
benefit of the common-Renee principle which had been
e•tablisbni in regard to every court of law throughout the
kingdone--namely, that men should take the oaths which
were binding on their own ronsciences. Lord Juba Russell
thought that the Upper Helve might accept that proposal,
and he did hope that bee Masty government would give
him their euppret. He (Mr. Mimes) fully concurred in what
had buts said with regard to the sincerity of Lard Palmer-
ston in reference to the Oaths Rill; but, having regard to
the prestige of the greet majority with which the bill was
pared, he could not but think that if all the means and ap-
pilawee of the government had been brought to bear on the
matter, the voice of the City of London, the voice of the
country, and the voice of the House of Colhinona, would not
have been dieregarded. (Hoar. hear.) It was the duty of
the government to exert all their force, and he dal trust that
en any future occasion on which that fon* might be moire!
it would got be withheld. (Cheers.)

Nr. BvAr., in NtefOlidigj the motion, observed that when
a Medlar motion to that which Mr. D'lllrya had giro.
Dodos's= proposed •01i10 years ago by Mr. Roebuck, It was
owned by Lord John Rural on constitutional grounds, aod
there wes no roma to •upper that Lonl JoLa Itussetra
opinion had &saliva. lie hoped that Mr. Dillfsla would
Gossett to postpone his motion for the present, and if, un-
fortunately, Lord John Russell'e hill should be ejected, it
would be open to him to renew it, and the liberal party
might that determine what course they would parsue with
regard Wit. (Hear, hear.)

Sir J. 131tAHAX urged the meeting to look at this matter
calmly. If it weedetertuined torment by wayof rooluti,m, and
if, through the united action of the liberal party, the reeelutien
should bo carried in the Home of Cotollloll6o, still, without
legislation, the Jew taking his seat would, ea the law stood,
lee subject to penalties. This wen not a doubtfal question, or
one that woe now mooted fur the trot time; it was a
question on which the courts of law had adjudi-
cated. Mr. Alderman Solomon brought the question
to Mese in the Court of Exchequer, and, if he mistook
not, only one oatof the four judges who beard the questionin the first teatime wee of option that the penalties could
not be levied. That one was Mr. Baron Martin ; the Chief
Baroli, Mr. Baron Parke, and the late Mr. Baron Alderson,
were, he I:obeyed, of the contrary opinion. But the matter
did not stop there. The judgment was removed to the Court
of Error, mid the majority is that coort—he did not know
whether there was any division of optuion—concurred in the
notion of the Court of Einhequer. Well, then, outmoding
the resolution to be carried, and Baron Rothschild to tote his
meat in the House of CuMlll..mo and to vote, he would thenhy
render himself liable to penalties ; and doubtless there were
portico who would be exasperated enough to prosecute
ice-
teedietely for such penaltim. 11 was not likely
that Baron Rothschild would be present for one
session without giving thirty or forty votes,. Theme
eormideratione were personal to Baron Rothechild
himself, and it wee for him to consider whether or not, in
the event of the resolution being pawed, be would subject
himself to the penalties. But whet. be asked, would be the
position of the It-ruse of Common. if in this matter they were
brought into collision with the courts of law v They would
be involved in a came of privilege and is conflicts of en
angry nature. He bed such faith in the House of Common.
that he could not doubt that, having justice and reason on
their side, though they might sustain some defeats, they
would ultimately triumph. But be put it to the meetieg
whether it would Le wise to take that course except in the
last resort. Should not every other effort be exhausted he-
fore they engaged in a great nmsfliet like that ? lie bad
said that he had not conferred with Lord J. Rummell, and that
e knew nothing of the noble lord's intention', hut he had
the greatest a estidenee in his judgment and also in him
courage ; and he did not believe the noble lord wouM nLrink
from any conflict when he had eight on his side. Though he
did not knew what were the noble lonee ',onions, hie con-
duct proved to him that he them; ht one legidative ettott more
might in prudence be mark before they had mousse to the
lest extremity. Ito thought the trieltAUTO which the noble
lord had indicated was an eztremely good one. As far mho
'lndent, rid it, it gave a further ex lerohen to the set of the Ist
sad and Victoria, whieb provided that in all places where
who to be tams, they should he taken in the meaner
which was binding on the conseienee of the party who took
them. If the House of Commons should pas' that bill,
it would then bo open to the Noll. of Lords to
reconsider their decisive, and allow the bill to paps;•
and la that ewe the object would be attained with the
eannumeee of bath Homes of Parliament, mud the (Albion
to which he had pointed would be avoided. Now, he thought
that a meeting like that which he had the honour of addrese-
lag, the merited determinstion of the Hem° of Cominotonot
to alt down tamely under the present state of thing.— and.
through the prim, what p tamed therm would leech their lord-
ships—he thought this could not but prduce an efh,lo,l the
Hesse of Lords. lie did not believe that in the history of
thi Gentry mime the Revolution—since the ported When
pertimmatary government was first established —there was
=Weer Matriewe to be found of the Home of Lords in four
enteleeetmponliernente offering unminprontieing resietanee to
eseeemivebilleall bavine one and the more object, and all wet
spin them by large majorities of the House of Conin-its If
the Howe of Lordm adhered en this iambuses to their deeieion,
would de so for the tat time under much eircumeteneem,
with great danger to their legislative independence.
' (Load chews. He thought that should be distinctly under-
' steed, end he that this warning would not be thrown
away ea their pt. (Hear, hear) But, aa ha had
' Wee reserked, be MIN there with no foregone eonclusion.
hen &Dail* may if a reeolutien were paused in favour of
=dthe meths of Mr. Diller; and it would be un-
isaibisi not he say that in that ease he should not feel
biome band by the decision of the meeting. Meer,
liser.) As et leant rebind, he preferred the
acmes which wee eratemapleted by hoed John
Rama, lad be would net
_pie himself r to
what be Avoid de Is the mat of Kr. Difwyn s view being
WADby Me emselleg. He had come with great
met the Send party ea • mumble on which he
W
agreed with Urea, lad ea whiettlbe bad felt it hie
dully to uprise hie opon =der the nimbi state of things ;
in conclusion, be medially dumbed the mestiag for