The Express.
London, England, 1861-06-26 00:00:00

FLOGGING IN THE ARMY AND NAVY.

Oa the motion of Mr. Wailers, Marne were ordered
respecting the number of persons flogged in the army and
lathy in the year 1880, with other parbitdars.
THE MARCH OF THE GUARDS TO GUILDFORD.

Sir H. VERNEY salted the Under Secretary for War
with what dress and accoutrements the detachment of
Guards was swelled from Kingston to Guildford on
Thursday last, and at what hour it left Kingston and
arrived at Guildford ; and moved for • copy of the repre-
sentation, if any, which was made by the medical °Soar
in charp to the commanding offloar ow the probable effect
of such a march ou the health of the troops.
Mr. T. G. BARING, in answer mew Mt part of the
hon. baroases gelation, said that the dress and seem-
trements of the detachment of Guise on their march from
Kingston to Guildford on Thursday, were snob as were used
in what is termed marching order ; that was to say, the
weight of the dress and accoutrements altogether amounted
to from 451 be. to dells. He had only further to remark as
to the order is =AA they marched, that the =man&
hig officer stated that the men were allowed to pull off
their stocks and unbutton their tunics, if they wished to do
so. With respect to the hours, they started from Kingston
at tee minutes past six in the morning, and reached Guild-
ford at • quarter past two in the afternoon. la reply to the
latter part of the q motion es to whether may representation had
been made by the medical dß= in charge, be begged to say
he bad been informed that the assistant-surgeon to the
detachment made no representation with regard to the
march ; that the detachment bad marched on the preced-
ing day without any serious ooasequenoes resulting, and that
the medical officer did not think it necessary to make any
representation. He would only add that the question of
clothing in the army bad long occupied the serious attention
of the Horse Guards and that several great improvements
to the health and comfort of the soldier had been
effected of late yea=
THE SUEZ CANAL

Mr. GRIFFITH asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Again whether be had received any information that M.
de Lampe had obtained, or was likely to obtain, authority
from the Patios of Egypt to eoropel the natives, by forced
labour, to work on thallium Clonal ; whether was it in award-
mice with the engagements of the Poch& towards the Porte,
far the observance of the Hatti Scheriff of Outhane and other
humane edicts of the empire, that he should eompal the
natives of Egypt to work by forced labour; and whether
her Majesty's government bad made, or proposed to realm
anrcomeouniestion to the governmente of Turkey, Egypt,
or France, in the interest of humanity, on this subject!
Lard J. RUSSELL—In reply to the first question of the
her. wdlema, I ham to eta W that we had information
sane Mahe ago bon her Majtety's Consul-Geseral in Egypt,
that M. de Lemma had obtained an order from Cie Podia
of Egypt, that 10,000 Datives should be employed by forced
labour on tbe works of the Suez Canal, The consul-
general stated he believed that some it them had been
sent down by the railway in order to labour at them works,
but that be expected that in a few days they would be
allowed to depart spin. I think that is rather • proof
that the works of the canal aro proceeding. After that her
Majesty's government applied to the Porto, and stated what
the hon. gentleman had referred to, viz., that the system of
forced labour was spinet the agreement of the Soften. Ati.
cording to the last amounts I have received, Karechld
Paella stated that there was no forced labour employed
in Egypt, and that he did not give any modems to the re-
ports which were prevalent. Whether it was that the packs
was deceived, or the oftsul•general, it is impossible for me
to say ; Inn only add that I propose to nooks further in-
quiry into the subject. In conclusion, I may inform the
km. gentleman and the house that her Ma* Ws govern-
ment have received intelligence to-day that the Suites died
the, aorming (Tuesday).
THE ENFIELD RIFLE.

Colonel VIVIAN rose to move for • select onturcdttee to
inquire whether • more efficient weapon than the Enfield
rifle might not be provided for the use of her Majesty's
forces, without additional oast or serious inconvenience to
the service The machinery at Enfield was adapted
for making the Whitworth ride, and If they began now
they would have 100,000 Whitworth rifles this time next
year.
Mr. TURNER said be felt he should not be doing justice
to Mr. Whitworth, one of Ls most valuable constituents,
if he hesitated to second the motion just made.
Mr. NEWDEGATE, looking to the large supply of
Erfield rifles on head, which did away with any fear of
deficiency at good arms in an immediateemsegeacy, thought
that this was a proper opportunity to take sorts steps
towards the adoption of improvements in our small arms.
He urged that • brescholoading rifle had been manufactured
8 , for military mirrors, to any arm in the world.
=atilio JERVIS contended that the superiority of Mr.
Whitworth's rifle over the Irdield was • question of bore ;
as it had been found on trial that with • similarity of bore
there was equality between them. He thought that •
committee of the house was not adapted for such an
inquiry that propoual.
some observations from Mr. Monnstl. sod Lord
MACHO urging expedition in the experiments which were
the Litter stating that the superiority of the
proposed, the
over the Enfield was undoubted,
Mr. CROSSLEY expressed au opinion in favour of
grantiog the committee.
Lord PALMERSTON would swore the house that the ,
government were fully alive to the security of watching all
these improvements, in order that they might furnish the
army w'th the hest possible weapon. The great improver
menterade during the last few years would be sof&
Meat prof that the government had given their hest at-
tention to the subject. Butes had been stated by his hon. fried
near him, this was en inquiry which belonged to the War
Diipartment of the government rather than to the Home
of Commons. With all deference to the home, of late
there had been a tendency to armee to themselves the
surentive and admiaistrative functions of the government ;
aspithas WWI functions which the loan could sot pro-
perly.ae unsfully perform. A committee would be able to
examine persons, but it would be requisite that there
should be some persons capable of verifying the reports of
those whom they might examine, and that could only be
done by the War Department. There wee no reason to
suppose that the War Department and those whom they
employed could have any prejudice is the matter or