The Express.
London, England, 1850-07-06 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 6, 1850.

In some shim it would be possible to give that additional
assoutarldation to the essistant-nrgeons without later-
Admiraltwinth that of the crew, in to
mere tho
ty had directed that sacommodation to be given, bet
la some Oche smaller Mitts of war it would not be OW
Tiniest to do so without infringing the two points to
whist+ he had just alluded.
TREATY BE [WREN PRUSSIA AND DENMARK.
It reply to Mr. DIARAILI,
Lord PALMERSTON said that be was glad to be We to
inform the house that the goverment had reeelved a de-
spatch from her Majesty's mbister at B. Oils, containing •
copy of • dabble° treaty of pesos which had been entered
late ea the enend cf thb math by the Kieg of Deem*
on the one hand, and the Kist of Prussia on the other os
Idioms behalf and in behalf of
BEAR
Colonel VERNER suing that the Secretary for Ireland
wm absent, wished to know from the Secretary of Slats who.
Mar it was true that it was the intention of the Irish govern-
ment to take legal proceedings against those protestants who
as insterniag home on the 12th of July last, were attacked by
bias body of rebels; and whether such a course, if
=Stwould be • jut and fair am and would be calm.
o allay the rancorous feeling that eziated between
them two partim la Ireland ?
Sir G. GREY said that la answering the titre, ion it would
not be for him to say whether such a °outs*, if adopted
by the Secretary for Ireland, would be right or wrong. All
he could say was, that he had not received any information
as to whether any such proceedinrs were to be taken.
PAROCHIAL ASSESS]IENT BILL.
In answer to Mr. STAFFORD,
Sir G. GREY said it would not be prudent to take into
consideration the amendments to this bill, while the con
ahem of the other home were proceeding with as lotiairy
whisk they had betituted in the matter.
SAVINGS BANKS BILL.
In answer to Mr. Ilipmay,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
he had mid bet - he was not able to name a dav

daeled. la net be difieslt to transfer tkle
seas a seasumers' ea, to cyder, yarns, of othor articles '
hem whist dada bad been mimed, oa far less greeds
thee salsts4 for the repeal of the one is gasmen. Bat
midi Wee that there ma se ream he suppeniag that the
assust eft a• tan might not be node op without having
seems* tit ramy each expedient. In 1849 the melt duty, after
deducing drawbacks, allowances. and 6 per amt. for ex-
ponces of odleetios, produed 4,612.7001. Tke Chancellor
el
the Batavia bad estimated his 'triples he the present
Teat at 1 i millions, 750,0001. he devot.d to the repeal of the
brick duty. and to the redaction of the stamp duty, sad the
ether 760,0001. to paying off part of the public debt. Now,
he sboold state, in the tint plaoe, that if he ahead
second in carrying his motion he did not propose
te interfere with the right hon. gestleman's flaancial
arrsatsessats fa the potent year, but that the malt tax
should be repeeed by innalments, ore-ball on April 6th
melt year, end the other half on the 6th of the following
October. But with regard to the position of the revenue and
the power of the Chaneellor of the Exchequer, to afford to
repeal this tax. The bill fur the alteration of the Stamp
Ditties bad opt yet passed, and it was doubtful whether it
would paes—(hest)—but, supposing it did, he mush
questioned whether it would destroy so much of the revenue
es the right hon. granaries calculated, for he believed the
inereate of taxation on the one side would go far to
counterbalance the decrease on the other' so
that, taking all things into account,: the surplus in April
might probably be, including the amount to be devoted to the
reduction of Ike debt, not less than 1,000,0001. But t.ad they
no encouregemein for indulging in the hope of some dimi-
nution of the public expenditure ? A great authority in that
house and out of it on such matters, (Mr. Wl' on) had
told them in en article in the 11,ortomist of the 9:h
of February, that there had been • considerable reduction
effected In the petition expenditure, that reduction being
the greatest is the navy, ordnance, and miscellaneous aer-
obia. In the navy alone that authority estimated the re-
flation at 820.0001, and in the ordnance at 1137,0061., mak-
-1,190,0001. in thee. two departments, acd the writer
rhich • beer

the evesemer. In his shareeter of wasemmer, the MOIR
and his labourers might be equilly benefited bye reilislisit
of the duty, bat, as mineuseees, they maid slue
s=t
benefited by the reduelka ditty en other
daily me. Then cams the Indio* that if this
reduction would be mats bwefslal to the farm= ise new
semen whether it was net obvious that a reduertim d dui'
en articles which bore a higher duty would MI orerseer
bestial to them as cowmen. Of Gone therepvest bosses
benefit to the farmers If there was as increeesdifiesemffelf
their prodoee, but If, as had been shown, there weld be no
coesidtrable increase of demand for melt if the duty wee
taken off, of course this benefit could be but trifling. A
most experiesoed witness Were the committee of the House
of Lords, whom he had mentioned, was of opieima that
has. would not be soy greet drat on consumption U the
mit duty was taken of. He was so distinctly. He was
asked also whether by the repeal of the duty there would net
be a great lost of WI without any compensatory
benefit to the costumer, and he said " that was his de-
sided opinion." The hen gentleman bad referred to
the question of steeping barley, In order to malt it,
but he was mistaken to supposing that the farmer was not
allowed to do so, only it was not to be done in such a manner
as to enable him to escape the payment of the duty on
malt. Mr. Barclay was also of rpielon that there wet no
material interference in the production by the supervision of
the lixeire. If he (the Chancellor of the Brebequer) had
shown that no great benefit would be derived by any interest
by the repeal of this t.x, and that while many would suffer
the benefl:, if eny,would be at best, but para.' and equivocal,
was it safe to risk 6 millions of revenue ? lie must repeat that
it wee not a mere bug-hear to talk of the national faith and
the necrssil of keeping up our establishments. It would
not bo an easy matter to lay on a new tax, and it not, the re
must be a rcuntrion of our ettablisbuieirs, for one of these
results must *CCU if this tax was needed. It was a pro
ductive tax, one which was paid by the consumer, was col-
lected ehe.:ply, and with as little inc,avenirnee to the trade
as was en.tisttnt with a due regard for the revenue, and,
therefore, as a great tit& would be incurred, and there
loss of - while the

as ~ smudge, _ _ey log - -
fur taking this bill, but that he did hope tee petered with it added, !het from the changes whe . lad . _an effected in would be great ding- rof • large .___ revenue, able,
before the sad of the session. those departments, the »dueler.' would be considerably hem fit would be alight and partial, he called on the bouts
MALT-TAX BILL. greater In the current year. (Hear.) Well, he theutht he to resist the motion of the hon. gentleman. (Hear. hear.)
Ile. CAYLEY in moving for leave to bring toe bill for the might be quite Bee in e etiolating that there would be 3 clear Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND referred, ironically, to eke
repeal of the melt-tax, said he did a h entirely on his surplus in Hte prelate yew, over and above that already dhe praises which a whig Chaccellor of the Exchequer had
own responsibility, without any promise of support from any posed of by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, of 600,0001, lavished upon taxation maehieminvented by eery ministers.
quake oldie house; and in no wet whatever, therefore, could —(hear)—and it the harmed consemptioe of milt in- He prowl sed, if this tax were teke.a off, to support any other
' itbe emaidered a party motion. He was instigated by no other creased the hop duty three-fold—which it was not nerve». tax which ministers might put on, and he begged them to
motive than that of a conscientious conviction that, under able to supper e—he thomid hays 600,3C01. from threesome. begin by taxing the Manchester manufacturer'. Votes ox
the premise demand state of agriculture, and under the He caudated also that there would be 300,0001. eaves this question would be a test of the honesty with which our
novel circumstances in which the agricultural interest in beyond the estimate of the Chem:tell» of the Exchequer on recent commercial talky bad been supported. He ed
this country was placed by their late commercial changes, corn ; for ha saw no reason to sigmas that the imports that this repeal ought not te be maidered as any boon to
'there was no other measure next to a return to the old eye- would fall off to the extent tee right honourable gentle. the landlords, but that it was of essential importance to the
tees protectien that could in any way antaihnts to the well- man supposed. They might obtain another 100,0091. by labouring claw», who, und :r the altered circumstances of
Ming of the agriculturists of this country tbaa that which was the abilition of the African tqesdron. Altogether this would the country, ought to b: ahle to bye upon fen. a week es well
contained is the bill for which be now claimed the support make about 3,310,1001. which, deducted from the as they used to be able to live mom 10". He declared that
of the home. The complaint was, that taxation was im- 4,612,0001 the melt-tax produced, would leave a defeieney the reason why puree did not drink so much hear as they
posed on this article of produce In • lariat degree only t•f 1,302,0001.. for whiskies the ensuing year he thought did was, because the beer usually sold was muddy, deleted
than on my other branch of British industry. He it would not bed Moult to provide. But kesaw in a news- ens, and latexiesting ; and he enumerated a list of disgust•
lad authorities to quote on the subject, the fit of paper the other day, supposed to be in the interest of the leg and unwholes me articles which, in the ceneuion of an
whom was the right boo. gaidenna the member for Ripon, government, that the present quieter', revenue was a tmeted eminent het penitent brewer, were admitted to he nut into
who, in the year 1539, on the debate on the motion of the to exceed the corresponding quarter of last year by 800,0001 ordinary beer. He contended with an earnest and eloquent
hos. gentleman the member for Wolverhampton, said that or 400,000 e, god that the intro st. in toe »sung quarter was peroration in praise of " good " beer, which he declared Le
he was »neat-edit-at if they repealed the corn-laws the expected to be sell greater; supposing Me teensy. to eon- read awe» administered to everybody, and always would
malets x would not survive Let • smile year. (Hear, hear.) tines through the year, emitting any altliti en to the corn administer.
the same right Lon. gentleman continued by asking why duty beyond the Chseeellor of the Exchequer's calculation, Mr. BASS, as m'y mate of the public brewers of this
should the landlords be precluded from arowiug beetroot, Were would be rot more than about 103,0001. deficiency, 'finny, country, said it w :yid be to their interest to have the toe
sugar, and tohl.eo ? (Cheers) The hen. member also In the name of the lowa body of Producers in the doubled; but he should counsel the r. pe ti of the duty,
quoted from the touch of Mr. Celtic'', and then said that he country—ice the name of the largest body of consumers which, he thought, could be got rid of without impairing
was straid it wee almost indecorous to gore in the matey—be ateurei them to redress the crying o vat the public credit. We bed a large surplus of inn ea, and
hie next authority, as he monist he obliged to allude which this tax indictee. Let them be eat, awl 'ear not. economy would make it tauter. He believee that the te-
te the name of fin eminent sea who, by the (Hear, hear.) He =teed for leave to thing in a bill to re peal would increate the prim of barley by at east 4. a
inscrutable Mates of Praideme, was lately severed from peal the malt ma. quarter, which (teatime the produce at five quarters to an
them. In answer to the unman. for Wolverhampton, he Me. CHRIS ()PURR seconded the motion, stating that acre) would give • profit of It. an are upon ail land und.r
stated that U the corn laws were posed, he would expect to this would he tee first time of his vain:, aghast the malt barley cultieetiun. Hereby, great assistance weed he given
be able to grow his own tobeceo aid to make his own malt. In other days he had opposed the aboletine, from to the farmer; sod he believed that if labourers and meets
There was mother strong objection te the pns.nt system, financial reasons, but now that protection Wee abolished, and mid set tool beer, they would
Meet was, that as long as it was continued it that seeernment had refused to ahem the agricultural Skein this motion be rejected, he should lay before tae
would be impossible for the mattes in this reentry leered, from burdens etpeeively and eaciudvely pr. tenet nouse a proposition for reducing the malt tea by outetudf.
to carry on their teat* according to scientific prieciples. upon it, lie conceived the: he had • right to demand, and to Mr. M. 01BeON admitted that the re wet much force In '
With /egad to this process of usaltinp, it might be known ask free trade members to support him in demanding a te. the genere opiuion matinee the effects of this tax, and of
generally to the holm that the proem of malting was to carry mail oe this nenosions duty. fades duties *morally, but could not, attar the disposition of
en one of the operetta.* se mews by melee! meant. h The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt great our mama Masse had been *greed upon, unsettle the
was • meet delimit sad meat skilful operatics. It was most reluctance at having to damme the tee:l'A pictures of Characiar of the Ex thethotrel arrangement he taking away
important that tbe Remit/Mien thould be taken at the proper general happistate which Hr. Cagle] hid pr shed should reveals, at the rate of 6,000,0001. a year. Bead and tee e.
moment. Ile wanted to know why tee farmer or the melester arise from the repeat of the tee. The Men et Commons siml reduction in our expenditure would enable le to give up
should be deffereutly dealt with teem any otberkind et manu• had three times vend is favour of &bambini; or reducing this tax, bat the house had chosen to affirm the prineip:e of
lecturer. 'ifle labourers of this ecu ail were debarred from the duty, and bad as often, upon easideration, rehini,d profuse outlay and inearteus woe aseiblithmenes. Betide.,
a wholesome natured bem r. ge he the weight of taxation. If that vote, • feet which he adduced as a reason tie heetaties tae would rasher repeal too taxes on keowlcdge than the
the duty were taken oh mel., the farmer, instead of feeding on the lore of members who might now be disposed to ger taxes oa drink; and as he inteedeil again to apply for the
his cattle on oil e.ke, would use malt very extensively. port toe abelitien. ( !Isar. hear.) Toe repeal of t • former repeal, be should, on the present (canon, for the
Prom this valusele toed fee his cattle the law of this country tax would moreover uccasien • less to the re venue . f sake of oreinary coteisteray, vote against the latter.
debarred him. In forme times, whin the duty was low, between 4,00)900/. sed 5,000,(001. The bugbear ot Mr. SPOONER (meted the Chaseellor ot the EU:ba-
ther* used t be • enalehouse aturhed to to ry farmhouse; national faith and natitnal establittmente hid been t nerd quires statistics, which beergued were inconclusive. They
&edit this tea were repealeathete would again te a malt-huuse of, but it was very math to be dmueetel whether the eti flew ia (las Mee of his favourite free-trade argunisoes.
to every farmhouse. Tem tax bed been embed a tax sober and refi:ctiee member, of the House of Canteens, would As regarded any growing distaste for beer, be utterly denied
upon the vomiter. If it was a tax upon the consumer, and consi ler these things as men bugbean. His own ',Lenience it, the fan being that, thanks to cur patent eystem, the
if all taxes of this kind were • tax upon the comelier, how convinced him that the ouggestioes made by the hat, in she farmer could not effort to pay the hemmer a rate of wates
did it happen that the rates rcnaceulacturers objected to the *chid net produce he -UI part of the real c Qum that which would enable him to but her. He warmly supported
duty ofet per »amp= calico? This wee • tax of ant.per cent. km. teem:emu hal calculated elan • tat, able aid muse the metier, strengly condemning excise duties, except when
u; on the price of the raw material. His right bias. friend oat so he was, let him try and meiete:te the publics feet:, let abs .luteit neee. eery, and repeashiug the free-tracers with
might say that taxes were required and must be pail; but him seemed, if he couleeis persuading the house to adopt haying the tern away nice millions of customs, a potion ni
this tax was oppressive ante moue, because it was unequal. his piano, but, first of all, let hiss have his suietitute whtele would hare enahl el the Chancellor of the Embalm r
The hon. to tuber rood as extract from a pamphlet ready prep:red before he incurred the risk of sails to give up thee obnoxious duty.
written, as he described, by a most intelligent farmer, repealing se large as Pelt of taxation m that Mr. L. HET WORTH opposed the seem.
illustrative of the hardship resulticg from the tax feraiated by the inmeition of tee malt duty. (Hear.) Mr. PACKE, tboegh a warm advocate for a return t
on the waking eaves of the community. Some New, the hon. Ruthenia said that the falling off in the petterceia, should oppose this motion, which he conceived to
persons red that the tax was paid by tes eeneenter. consumption was owing to the duty. It was true that tee he a procaceng in the along direction. Ile did not believe
Who was the cement'? Not the rick man, who drank tense -pion, U you took an sumo of 10 years, was Its, that the repeal et the seals tax would benefit the Eeelith
wine, but the labourer. The enenseas amount of this ter now than then. If ton took the 13 years from 1821 to farmer.
was entirely paid by person who eel lees income than 1.101. IbBl (and • great mass of Wonsan in would be fou-,1 on Mr. L. HODGES, thoneh in another state of our finances
a year. They did sot pay the Deane tax, but they were this subj• ct .n the paecre laid befe re the Homo of Lords on he late voted 14): the repeal, could not, under errant ca-
t psylas taxes ten times the amouet. At a temperance meet the tale el bar), weerits the coneuntetion now w: s »restarts, • uppert n nati ea whale ten ..d to create a de-
-1 ill a pates glibly held rArl on the. a:vintages of detekine 26,800,000 Latham It wee in 1831, 31 1.)0,le el, 111.4 is 1841, drietcy scaly to be eon li.d by • treat iceman in the pr
of
water; but some glibly
people, who happened to •ea d 31,400,000. The Min. gentleman thought teat stub of this p tty rascal
Tab woad bra czrtu.n I.,jury to termer, of
the waling, domered to the emendate to which Le came. deerene of comae» iei was owing to the uerearieted ad England, h Weed is Mu hope ot teens ham an um::-sin
and, en being raked why, one of them said, "My friend miss: sof c•rn, but so far from test beag the ease in the :3
drank water, ate I drink ale; he is dead ad lam hers." last three years, there bee been a erase inehase of co, - Mr. :AA' ME said that it was tall to talk of free
It might not be bssefical to indulge is excess in these lit gumption is that time. la 1847 :he consumption wes trade in a enet.try where such an arbitrary sod • •xstious
1 i 0 enmi ties mere? exciturel iaterse ues* xisted. li
thee or. t
'turn bat malt liquor was the peculiar beverage of this e.t.a- 30,200,000 bushels ; in 1843, 31,e00,031,000,0x'0ha 0 ; 61.4
try. The boa. gentleman then reed several statenteetc of the 31.1G0, 40 bushels; lead, thereto», al:Lough there h d for the agrieslestd, *Mee under use Leel
amount
el the um atdiffered periods from the time it w a bees • falling off in the ten years white had jug. err ettnat system, met beleg oppressed h- red h treeit As
bet late on in 1697, and refereed to various !meteorite% ended eemp .reet with the preceding tee years; ya, during to t' -e habit of leer drinking goiug out, that wos all non-
to show the: the duty oa malt was r. most cruel exiction, the period of the ucrestekted stasis:ion of Corn there heal att-e. Ladies iiivarisisiy tuek beer, tither with a seetlicel
and aserions drawback on the social c extorts of the put le. b er. e. 'toady metes,., and this was en rawer to the the e. as me or without ate, a: their substantial mid day meal.
Whilst upon this subject, he eight eel. in refer-nee to tion that this cense had eon'ributed to the reduction of am- while the 11bl-elveand awl/wine tee. neuldhe too glad of
theta lanes of duties of excise, that he did cot see how we suniption. The hon. gentleman said truly that there were it, end ought to b .ale to have ie Ha semale support the
could ooesibly continue such • 'lean of taxation, under the other articles ef limed censumptiosi which had invested in lemon.
seer commercial code. lie hoped his noble freed at the greater proportion to beet, sed he attiibuted it he the duty Mr. WILSON admitted that all taxes which diminish,
heed of the gee »mete wocel take into consideration, low, on malt. He (the Chan eller of the Exclateeet)Ogniil that temetimp'i s acne injuriously to the protegee. end the malt
Rader theempeteion ot faience', teem excise taxes lasened the consumption of tbose articles had increased, end that ef tax to a Certain cannot cam a under this des:airier.; bat he
industry. He did not sea hew native industry could bor bed diminished, in proportion to the populatier, , lest conteeded teat no solid relief would be gives by the repeal,
be named on under the peewee of taxation which that wag owing to the change ie the habits see fates ot the inasmuch re if the intro eel demand which was I ich..d to
met it at every step. The teams in the peal of people ; end perhaps the hon. gentletith might ell to mind were me eloced, that increased demo d mould not le
beer mad by teenaged inmate bad been athompari. dby that in Lis own family, and among his donates e• :. met in England, and an increased importation of Muir%
• reduction in the price of spirie, ethic" out ot the oppo- mate, there hal ban a decrease in the use cf barley would 111.3 take place. The principle now
' site canoe, so that the present state of things was, that in- beer, anti increase in the consumpien of tea and Maths I km eud would, he lei 1, hinder. the rape.'
tete:nth:ea by spirituous liquors could he obtained for half cafe*, end in many families an 'Lawson, of tea ef ell eustems whatever. (Ttis observation was receivel
the money for which it woo °Maimede in beer. (Hear, was substituted for malt limier. It was .really true that with earth:ant protectionist charism) The o! ject of
bear.) A farmer dining lately at a market table complained labourers and others ot the working classes drank more tea teneurable members °Main ',lntel be to untex a ulen's
tithe beer, and asked the landlord why he did not get and km beer. People could nut drink both in the same in- beer and to tax his bread. He next arged thet the snit
better, "these that the farmers would net grudge • good creased meantime and it they drank that which was more tax, though heavy, was not u's:airly so. and that the repo--
rens is they wire furnished with • Fre,4 article. The land- beneficial to their health and mambo, it was nut to be re. sereatioa that it was higher than other sinear taxes was um
Iced answered that it would net Bait ni: purpose to increase gutted that there was an increase of the one and a decrease :minded. The ben te could pot be charged with iediffere
cs
the sonsumptioa of beer, as he bed a such higher profit on of the other, although there might he a loss to the revenue. to the condition of the corsumer, as w_s shown by the large
gin. (Hese, beer.) If they feared repeal teey might at By referring to a table which would bes found in the Blue aratuet •t t. see it had remitted, and by the williagnees
least reduce the duty, sad the success of smiler experiments Bel lt to which he had aeultd, the Con, gentlemea weld tee or it, meaner» to submit to • property tax in order to carte
to tea and coffee, ought to /towage them to du to. Tee to what extent this relative elecreate and iner,use went. By out 'ltch relszetioas. And it woe the en yof (eery member
consumption of to had increased 300 per ceut.. and of comparing 1839 with 1840 it would be found that there had of that tease to consider himself cm:telly bowie with the
coffee 800 per cent., sines the redaction of the duty. been • falling off in the consumption of malt of about one gum regent tope:wreathe credit of tea country, and to ate
A similar increase had taken plea in the consumption of million of bushels, the quantity cuncemee in 1339 stain Non Mier foe the reckless sacrifice of an enormcus
spirits in Ireland, in mormance of a eseuetion of duty— being 39,930,000 bushels, and in 1819, 38,930,000 bushels. *mount of income like that now proposed to be yielded up.
the increase in 4 years bong about 400 per cent. But but the consumption of tea had increased from 35 nelliocs of It was • quotient of the maintenance of publie honcur, and
even there a r.ptal of the malt tax would be a relief, as the pounds to 60 millions ; of coffee, from 26 million of pounds up n them grounds he opposed the motion.
welt, flavour, so mneh prized is whiskey, was given by to 34 ; and of cocoa, hem 1,600 000 to 3,200,000, Mr. DISRAELI s:.id he could not cote idee a proposition
a Mature of malt with the raw corn. Anciently there was or about double. The consumptien of spirits too, whether for the repeal of the malt tax, without at the some time tak-
a large consumption of beer in Scotland, but the imposition home, foreign, or colonial, had fallen off ing into etnaideration the condition of the agricultural
of the malt tax, subsequent to the treaty of the onion, made the rate of On, million of gallons by comparison Claelle, inasmuch as that barley we s one of the pencil: it
the people turn their attention to distillation; and whiskey, of those two years amounting in 18.39 to 29 millions, and in ankles of t tear produce. (Hear, hear.) He did not sup
a much more delete/tens tlaitl, had been the national 1849 to 28 millions, The consumption of wine had els s rote that any person present would deny that the condition
b ge ever eines. So unpopular had been the malt tax fallen off; it being 7 millions of gallons ill 1839 and 6,247000 of the agricultural clean generally in the emery woes at
in Scotland, that government did not dare to levy it on its gallons In 1849. The result had been that the consumption the present moment one of great depression. (lies, hear.)
fleet imposition, and subsequently, eeriest riots attended of all intoxicating liquors had fallen off for the last teu ) ears, Geutlentes opposite, he was sure, would sheet that that
the first attempt, at a levy. In consequence of the malt duty and the use of those liquids which were not ef deprestion was not only great hut unexpected ; but on that
the consumption of beer in Ireland had decreased 700 per eating nature had inereasseevery considerably—a resultwbich (them opposition) side of the house they were preps:- el tar the
ant., a proportionate increase having token place in the could not be moldered as anything but most satiasetory, times of • legiestien en wheel the no jertty had decided.
consumption of whiskey. Hamlett' should look to this, and inasmuch as it had contributed to the benefit of the (Opposition chem.) But the clieerenee Wee, that while
see whether in maintaining the malt tax they were peelers, working chases by the suhstitution for the use of liquors both sides of the house agreed as to the depression
lag the morale of the people. (Hear, hear.) Scotland used which tended to the deterioration of their health and moods, it was only on the government side that it was acknow-
Ms whiskey than Deland, and England least of all. In of those litluiels which had an exactly opposite effect:This was ledged to be unexpectee. (Hear, hear.) Under these dr-
Seat/and the duty wee 3a. Bd. the gallon; in Ragland, a convincing proof that the result woo not owing to the cunistances, he thought he had • right to expect—indeed he
7e. 101. ; and in Ireland, 2a. 6d. ; and in that tariff might amount of the duty, for the hon. gentleman was mistaken was surprised that se few members of the gevernmeut had
be found the cause of the comparative consumption of the in supposing that it was anything like so high u that on tea, spoken on the question—that they would favour the house
three countries. (Hear, hear.) The Commissioners of Ex- or even foreign wine, the duty on both of which he sail was with a clear and succinct view of what they thought would
elm had already recommended the reduction of the duty lower than that on malt. It was impossible to supra that ha the future condition of the agriculture of the country.
casktalf, and calculated that the increase of consumption the duty had prolued the effect of decreeing the coesuctee (Opposition cheers.) They (the opposition) knew that great
would make up the deficiency. The house had no idea of tioe, because the consumption of those articles which had distress prevailed, and they had attempts 1 • remedy, but the
what could be made out of an acre of barley. Five qunrten of been substituted, and which paid a higher rate of duty, had government hal at first denied it, but early in the present
barley was the usual peoduceof one sae, and they would pro- increased. The hon. gentleman said that if the duty un session had been obliged to admit it, at the some time
duce 601 gallons of ale worth 601. 10s. (Hear.) The cost of malt was taken off it would ensure an unlimited extent of expressing • confident hope that it would be trent lent in
that quantity untaxed would be 101.145. (there hear.) The consumption. If, as the hon. gentleman raid, there had been its duration. (Hear, hear.) Early in the session the same
difference was the amount of tax paid by the laborer for a large increase in the consumption of other articles on which minister who addressed the house tit great length in the
his second necesoary of life. (Hess, hear.) Oat of the same the duty had been lowered with regard to malt, they early part of the evening had acknowledged his surprise at
acre of bailey the landlord got 25'., the tenant perhaps bad a better criterion by which to judge, because they knew the amount of agritultural distrait, but it was subsequently
lee., while the rest all went in tax and manufacture. (Hear, what had been tee result from the reduction of duty in the averted by. him that prices would soon rally and
bear.) He anticipated the best consequences from a repeal lest 36 years, during which they had been relieved that the crisis was passing away. An the, month
of this tax. There would be ten million quarter, more foe:many yam of the war malt duty and the beer had now elapsed, they were approachieg the end of the sea-
barley used, and of these eight millions would be grown in duty. It had been stated before the committee of the ring, and every one mutt acknowledge that the distress re-
this country. That would take so much wheat out of tbe House of Leeds on the burdens on land that, taking maser', while its serenity was increased. Very early in
market, our weak point as regarded foreign competition. the war malt duty nod the beer duty together, the total the alien he had proposed a remedial measure, many
Such was our superiority in barley growing, and such payable on malt liquor was 7.15. 2d. on strong beer, and thought that it would not have had that result, but a greet
the risk of lose by detazioration from shipment, that Cl.. 10d. on weak beer. The beer duty having been re- party had suppertedi it, and nithough not stle+ sifel, it wns
the abolition of the core laws had not materially increased pealed, the only duty cxistiog being the malt duty of 21e, negatived by only • hue majority. (Year, heat) Was such
our imports of that grain. Oa the other hand the increased there bad been a reduction of 50. i. on strong beer, and 401. a proposal ezt aaaa aut or uareasoneble ? Oa the contrtry,
demand of 8,000,000 quarters, which he anticipated, would on weak beer. Yet there had been no material illerMISO in ell had ackn teledged its moderation, end even the ministers
give such an impetus to the English grower, and would die• the consumption, nor was there likely to be any great In- themselves could only object to it as being too i;,s;,saiticant a
place so much este:that the price of the three principal de- crease by the reduction to 21s. ; nor was this such a reduce matter for the purr)... intended. That proposal woes opposed
a:reelects of grain would, "email to all reasonable calm- ton as was of any benefit either to the consumer or the by government, and was negatived by the lento
s.
latioo. rise to such • level as to render the greater part of producer. If reference was made to the evi- At a subsequent period, and from the g wrea-
the effect of the repeat of the corn laws nugatory. (Hear. demo of Mr. Barclay before the committee of the mint side ot the house, there came forth an-
hear.)To show the effect of the tax on barley he had esti- House of Lords it *Mild be fauna that it was his eminent other proposition for the relief of agricultural elites',
"sated the diminished assumption of the year 1849 as cam- that although there might be a slight increase of consumption which wee also rejected. In the first instance a practical
pared with the year 1700, and he found, taking the increase on the repeal of the duty, it would not amount to more then measure was proposed; in the second the house was totted
in the population into aceosat, that it was no lea than 171 500 quarters, and that as to the pries that the quart of to impose a moderate flied duty on foreign cern. Both were
millions of quartets. Now, supposing the consumptionporter which was now sold for 311., would be reduce! rejected, while all the time the house was acknowledging
were incased by 10.000.000 quarters In consequence of the only by one halfpenny. There could be uo better or the presence of agrieulturel distress, proeueed ncaiuly by the
repeal of the malt duty, he would ask them to consider what more competent witness than this gentleman, one of »peel of the duties on foreign corr, (hear, hear.) Well,
would be the benefit not only directly to the farmer but col- the largest brewers in London.genuoma n
(Atacerocusliv4)%o tie the distress was still existing while the tension was drawing
laterally to the labourer, the abater, the cooper, the hoop- doctrine of the honourable
. maker, the glass bottle maker, and cume- increase of consumption ought tohave followed the re • I ugert ie. a.
maker, the sackt a close andacialter proposition was before the house, made
in by • obi; member, and having a tendency to relic ye the
rows other tes.les whom (*evicts would maenad, be brought of duty, and a decrease °wild to have taken place on she tresses et the agrioultural clews. lie ( r. Disraeli) could
into requisition. There would be 220,000 Mee of Mete more reimposition of the duty. But how was the fast ? In Hug not consider that proposition on its merits Or demerits,
required to make coke for drying the malt, met then they the duty per bushel was 4s. C 1.,. and the avenge coneump- without at the same time refining to the cleans on
must not forget the hop grower. He believed there were time of two years was '26,600,000. In 1,418 it was redue d whose to hove ittiuence • and
43,00 u acres of land in the cultivation of hope ; but if the 2e. 6.1 , sod the consumption fell to 22,700,000. Iti'lBlt9o, ater thrteuues sifters of calculated
stedhlounourael member for
malt deity were repealed it was not uarmonable to say that the duty was increased to 3s. 7.1., and th.; consumption in- Weeteury, he must take • genera view of the mode
double that amount of land walla be required for the pus- created to 26,000,000 bushels. The hon. gentleman seemed he which the general taxation of the country was impaired.
pee. (Heat, bear.) Bulbs knew els rieht hon, friend the to think it a monstrous proposition to say that the duty oa (laterally s,-lelking, there were them modes in which our
Chancellor of the Exchequer would answer all these tame malt was mainly paid by the consumer of beer. The cone tuatirm was raised—by duties on imports, by a system of
meets by the statement that he could not spas the mans i mitts, of the House of Lords cm the burdens en real pro. in; .nd taxation, and by a system of localcontritmelons.
which the malt tax brought to the revenue. (Bear, hese, petty, hove referred to this Instance of the melt t -s, and bed With repeat to the first, they had, by their recent
But If Users wee any ground fat that el jestion, which he come to the conclusion that the duly fell a* a general tax on tor, admitted everything that came ihto competition with