The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-02-13 00:00:00

IMPORTS.

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01
PERNAMBUCO, Jan. 8: Owing to the past week beingbo
of holidays, business has not been as important as might
0
expected.
BEEP JERKED : Deprived of any arrivals, the stocks be,
gradually been reduced to about 1000 arrobaa of liouto''uA o t eoo
and 4000:ditto of Rio G.; to day we quote former ssB'n
6sooo, and latter 63000 to 73000 per arroba. °(
BurrEit : Several small receipts have come to WI oof
Irish ; and sales are said to have been made at about

quotations.
10°
COALS : A small sale, taken from on board the ris'
Hamburgh, has been made at 7$ per ton ; a cargo per
thian, from Liverpool has been sent on to a Southern port'boo
another cargo per Reciprocity has been disposed of at a
95500 per ton.
CODFISH : The receipts since our last prices currettt
been from Newfoundland.
FLOUR : Our bakers have again stopped pnrchasieg'vers'
already large quantity on hand, together with the eed otir,
t
tt
arrivals, make our stock to-day about 12 000 barrels, a",
quotations are quite nominal ;—besides a very small '03,0'
Lisbon Flour at 29$ per barrel, we do not hear of anY
actions whatever.

Of
MANUFACTURED GOODS : The already heavy arri!slol
late have been followed by others per Cineen, Rosari°,;oo,
Black Prince, from Liverpool, per Amethyst from V
and per M inesota from Philadelphia.

EXPORTS.

tlO,
SUGAR : By the last advices from Europe v. 13 0A ".„.00
prices were on the decline, and that rates were vo;;;;a0,
holders finding no purchasers; consequent of these rootc
several sales have taken place here at from i iio
25400 for browns to fine yellow, and from
to 25800 per arroba for low to fine
The total entries since Ist inst. have been 23,375111&':
to 1,670 tons. Paraiba and Maceio Sugars : °(
told of sales of former port's at about 25400 f:
latter we aro not aware of any sales having taken place'
osto
COTTON : Only 24 bags have reached us since the Istalril
and consequently nothing has been dotng in this article
the past week, we therefore give our
quotations as n°
Maceio and Paraiba Cotton : Of former we hear of liv„
oboo
whatever, but of latter, transactions have taken place 1t
our quotations. at
HIDES : Several enquiries prevail for (his article,
higher prices. th°
FREIGHTS : Very little has been doing this week,: an
ophira
only transactions we hear of are as follows :—Tho ,t
has engaged a cargo of cotton from Paraiba to Liverre°oo 0;1
per lb. and five per cent., and the Freeman, cotton, 1.1
to same port, at 7116ths per lb., and five per cent.
EXCHANGE : We hear of an amount of £13,000 '
been transacted at 281 d. et
DrscOuNTS : The bank rate still continues to rule 3t
-(/
cent, per annum, for bills to mature within six months
date.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE.

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Sectge roO!
Rio ns JANElRO.—Arrivals—Dec. 14, ship Pilot Fish, „
,
Dec. 15, Mary Anne, Carrisal; Dec. 27, barque Myster'rof4,
Dec. 29, br g Flori t, Harding; Dec. 31, barque Astarte,
erpooolo,
Jan. 7, barque Caroline Chisholm; Teesdale—all from 600r6;
BUENOS AYRES, Dim. Sailings for Liverpoo' lAfeo
Grayson; brig Eliza Jenkins Deane ; barque Neptuoe,,,, J. o°o
schooner Bosphorus. Gibson; Ipswich, Gaille; bar,,q-ree' ,
Cattier; brig Gauntlett, Bell. Arrivals : Crusader, "a ag''
Cl'
Liverpool ; brig A. sett,
from Liverpool. „„ge
PERNAMEUCO.—C'eared for Liverpool: English ba_`,loo.,,,ltet;
via Paraiba, with 1200 bags of brown sugar; also. Fre' ;
direct, with 1400 bags brown sugar, and 726 bags riverP itli Baine, via Paraiba, with 116 bags of cotton; Town of -
bags of cotton, emir.- 001. IP
22u0 bags brown sugar, via Paraiba; Queen of the Te'qo.
and NW begs of brown sugar, via Oster,

'SELECT

'The usual fortnightly meeting of ten o'clock yesterday. Rev. -
',chair. The other members present wt..
'Woodruff, Chesney, Rawle, :Bairstow, Bradley, Ow€
Mellor t
Pairhurs, Lunt, Satchel!, Whitty,`Blain, Bold, J. Jon
,':%V. Jones, Crawford, and Brancker.

;try wa

Hector Campb,

Messrs‘ Shaw

THE TOWN ~_
Mr. Woodruff said, before the vestry
the business of the day, he be,-
attention' for a' moment, to -
portance to them.
last few days the Gove
Paliament, the n
object of
Lainr,
mustbe extent, with the town dues of Livers,,,.._
equally aware that, as the bill waS introdu,
I,Y the government, it would require no ordinary effect, t
get Rectoro objectionable a measure. He had consult
the upon the subject, and they came to the c
ielusion that the subject was one of such i
tr Parish, as to justify the board in take
eatetilvve• Matt"' They proposed, there
with the mayor, and to call a r
1112")ard, for the purpose of d - -
,roPer to take in reference
_nat whatever course they
4PPrOval of the corporation

proceeded wi

to call t

_ - .cry (;ac
they must be aware that within t
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WORKHOI

_ The proceedings of this cormnitte. ..
4PPeared the numbers-admitted during
.Ntho y. that agrant sheds, were 204 males, 126 fen
dre, in all 358. The number of sick
le :2nd in
all was 715, including 48 revel
..-tne total numbers in the : house on the 6'
69).
state Mr. haw in moving the adoption of the
d that in consequence of the gentlem
appointed as visitors not Navin'
that duty of late the committee
duty among themselves
IVIr. Mr. Jones .
preached at the on 4 1 -
.sliggested'that";a. copy 'of the sermu
open
of the chapel be presented to
!act' of the paupers, as he was satisfied that the greatest
neuefit must result from a perusal of 'that admirable
discourse. A copy had already by the kindness of the
chaplain been presented to each gnardian.
itr• Bradley seconded the motion.
Feat Whitt said he bad read the -sermon with very
pliPleasure,and he did not thtnk-there could be any
tlepeetri.on to presenting it at [least, to every protestant
The su -
Th., ,ggeStion was agreed to.
' owtesof the workhouse committee were then
adopted 4

su ffi Mena

len read. I

agreed 10-divid

P. , INDUsTRIAL SCIIIJOLS COMMITTEE,
to nee naltwes of this committee were read. They con-
trial a resolution that two boys, inmates of the indus-
art Be4ols, named Thomas and.John7:Rice, be entered
Protestants.
M
to fir' ,Whitby opposed that resolution'which he con-
mere atXrrned a principle likely to lead to very per-
the (lalcensequences, to produce great irregularities in
IN.n.teool and dissatisfaction among many of the corn-
Vol! Y outside. It would be in the recollection of the
44(1'1 tbat about six weeks ago these two boys, Thomas
olk!,°,1111 Rice. having before that time been entered as
ti._..soles, had
had their religious designation altered by
the Niustriarschools'..-cornm'ittee, upon the ground that
le eldestas boy had been registered in St. Peter's Church,
ati a Protestant. Oa that occasion he (Mr. Whittymade
nil rittirY into the circumstances andl,was told that he
that tbe satisfied the matter had been fully examined,
lialPle boys' register had been produced, and that he
,_
a, bee entered wrongly in the industrial schools' books
received
.catholie. Subsequently to that, he (Mr. Whitby)
stitri!ed information tnat the grandmother of the boys
13(4._ ived. ~
Ile waited upon her in the presence of a
mese°. connected with the workhouse, and
question him that the two children in
Rouey and two others had been baptized
Wishes of the parents as Roman catholics in
hhrTaa eatholicichapels from time to time. She informed
4, NVhere they
Luta t• were baptized, who were their sponsors,
the times When they were baptized, and that ultimately
sia4tttier, who was a protestant at the time of her ar-
test h,,_ec?-me a catholic and died a catholic. In ordemr to
r-atul f.'. accuracy, he went to the chapels she mentioned,
.cie't -°lllld the baptismal registries of the four children.
e, herefore thought in this case it would be clear to
wac"; °,oe thatthe truth of the old woman's testimony
Itst.',4llY borne out by the production of the registries.
to the chain of evidence appeared therefore to be quite
roitt„ d was laid before the industrial schools' corn
thei;el he did hope that that committee would retrace
io the'Len, as he considered they had made a false step
%ion. Previous alteration of the boys' religious denomina-
Re thought it was admitted by the comit.tee on
tlahraounecasion that to a great extent, at least, theme vidence
as /tght forward showed that the boys had been baptized
a l_reart catholics and that the father had been always
i„plelict but he' believed some doubt existed in the
1,111--,"1,8 of the committee about the mother being a catholic,
,heed appeared to have considerable influence with
est- But finding that the ground on wh:
4_.
_altered the religious denomination of. ti.
tt?et tez?able, the committee then took their st.
life trhuleiple that the boys had arrivedlat that pei .._
selyWen,,tbey ought to be at liberty to choose tbr them-
hinue'if I'4 ow the chief object of his remarks was,. to apply
hitrod to ow
new principle. He believed it
thenow
.first
teod'e 49 he contended that it was most pern.icitoiums
small
nmaitlsl
Noma:ries. The only safety against it, was in
lipoe t
,i_of cases in which the principle would be called
Of the 0? Used. It that were not the case,the adoption
abiectloPrinoiple would become so ridiculous as well as
Nue° nahle, that he was sure every member. of thccorn-
urge vvould SOOII be anxious to abandon it. He
neeesuPon the attention of the members of the boat
tapri!itY of consulting the wishes of the parents, ix
the Caprices and whims of children. Every gentleman am
The °ard Must reflect how his own children were plat,
itne? were under the tutelage of teachers, and everybou,
chil,7:wit was the plastic, timid, retiring nature o
wer'Leos disposition, and that at that tender age they
ter!?m"athPelmet.ely
~.subjected to the influence of those
Lie asked the board to step in and
rraelept those,s; children from the consequences of their own
Prineei,°4 at that early period of life, and not to affirm a
merit Pte which would hold out to every child an induce-
slight:Blld an invitation to change their religion upon the
gliasdia' caprice. Re thought the duty of the poor-law
t° ear na Was to be the executors of the deceased parents,
the rY oat with fidelity their wishes, as executors in.
atetiailriv transactions of life carried out the disposi-
the dutywerepresent of the poor-law guardians, he thought that in
tett... instance they were departing from it
.in a
to ueer Which was likely to be most pernicious and likely
Produce
corto„„., very unpleasant consequences in such a mixed
that culby, Re would ask any protestant gentleman at
et, ,_.soard--his friend Mr. Satchell, for instance—if a son
0a,_1_,,. fourteen years of age, desired to become a Roman
h- pluile, what reception would he give him ? Ho thought
it,rental box on the ear would probably be the reply.
allio. IThich was not allowed as religious liberty in any
The .8 latnilY should not be allowed in a public institution.
a.llO vuor had a special interest in this principle—the poor
bee,„,were not now in that institution—but who might
assire inmates of it. The dock labourers who worked
loterileuslY in that great hive of industry. had. a deep
ti
n,est in knowing that if by any providential clispe
talti 4111? h as sickness, they were no longer able to main-
totio'' err children, and had to send them into that insti-
-410, their wishes would be respected as regarded the
tioel.,°„4 to which they adhered themselves through life,
etertc.", which they found a consolation when passing into
the ILY• Finally, Mr. Whitt y concluded by moving that
i. resolution be not confirmed.
th„eln• Fairhurst seconded the motion, and urged that if
e',7l l:toard. thought fit to have the religion of the boys
trinred into, it should be before a competent tribunal.
2 Re
~clenied that that board, composed of 24 protestants to
—"man catholics, or the committee, composed of 12 to 2
could be considered a fair tribunal.
4,r. Crawford : Don't make such an assertion as that.
"ar• Filealwrhurlsdt said, undtil tlhreticiehairman calle I him to
order
board recognised the
Principle thatnn a 113orynnoefe 14 years should. be permitted to
Phan his religion, he should at least be brought before
- conapetent tribunal, not, one composed of 12 protestants
tO 2 icatholies or vice versa. The boy appeared to give
answers perfectly satisfactory to the reverend chairman,
and the majority of the committee, but it should be re-
nlembered, that he had been classed for months as a pro-
testant under the chaplain, and it was not to be wondered
at, therefore, that he should give certain answers which
Would satisfy the chairman and those members.
Mr. W. Jones contended, that Mr. Whitty had, per-
haps, without intending it, done an injustice to the com-
mittee, and the officers of the industrial schools. He
contended, that there were such inconsistencies in the
statement made by the grandmother of the boys, as dis-
entitled her to the credence. Any oue who had listened and the reasons they
to the boys giving
_their opinions,
opinions, must have strange and si
gave for those
ngular
notions of liberty, who would incur the responsibility of
coercing those children to be Roman catholics. standingNotwith-
that the boys had,
committee meeting after
Fooini itlee meeting, been browbeaten, they still persisted
lo their opinions, and gave reasons_ which would be
creditable to persons 50 years of age.
Mr. Owen defended the course taken by the committee,
and instanced cases where a parallel course had been
taken in the instance of child re n who desired to be re-
gistered as Roman Catholics, although at first registered
Ile Protestants.
In' The Chairman : Permit me to say -a few words.
The
Orion-'n,Y thing
hich calls upon me to make any observation
0n the present occasion is a remark which fell from
,al,r. Fairhurst, impugning the impartiality and I may say
le honest
chairman y of the committee—impugning myself as
boa
Mrr- . No, Fairhurst: sir, it was the composition of the
~ The Chairman : The honesty of the board in. giving a
'-airecision according to their conscience, that was irpned.
4t was said distinctly that we were not an impartial.
tribunal which could give a fair judgment. That I think,
s said. (Hear, hear.) Now, I solemnly repudiate that
accusation. Standing in your presence and in
the presence of God I believe that I am
Perfectly competent to give a perfectly impartial judgment
IPon any case of conscience which comes before me. (Hear,
hear') I believe that I would no more coerce a Roman
catholic to become a protestant, than I would coerce a
protestant to become a Roman catholic. I have, in several
eases, acted as an advocate for liberty of conscience. (Hear,
hear.) As such I shall always act. I shall always defend
the conscience of a Roman catholic as I would defend the
°laaCiettec of a protestant (*oar, hear.) I will never

ich they at

Joys was

'n,

permit any tampering with conscience to go on under my
cognizance. I will prevent it to the very utmost of my
at ability—f have prevented it to the very utmost of my ability.
I
, e
cI h
ah
pa
lv,aeli,
ici. given
re
tttehoreoi
of
tae strongestrnfeorme—anndirectionsd a the a ttt ho:
will
npfitrleordtfeeesriteean_ndt
-,... sacred privilege, of religious
tpon that ground I should
I had been called on to
7tve nay vote, for the resolution which was passed by the
-.sittee. It is a very injurious insinuation, and I atn
sorry that it will go out, by meats of the press,
urers, to induce them to suppose that the
:es of their children would be tampered with at
trial schools. If lam permitted to do so, I will
ice, and request the press to let it go forth to
pourers, and to all the labourers in this great
"tat no such tampering will ever be permitted
trial schools, and that it never leas been.
I wish them to be perfectly tranquil, and
But let U 3 examine what
in this case. The mother was a
It came out in the evidence, and
austied my mind that she did, for the sake of
le a Roman catholic ; and it did appear,
far as I could make out, that she had,

ie I consc
,o I the I

privile
and it

given my *etc

rtainly

ock labo

sy upon that subject,

ampering

origmally

t last

moment

attention

obably she
perfectly evident that
were not particularly con-
ceit up the children, because
n to go to a protestant
.0 yearn. It came out
who is the subject of this
Ty frequently to St. Mary's estab-
himself was catechised, and,
echised pretty cicsely, and
id he wisned to be a protes-
ni the reason why, he burst out
ery innocently, and with great feeling—
,

ather and the m

what they

hey remaine,

upon the
discussio

Owen said, he was

When I

:s, he s:

rying, anc

I must confe

d his mother had enjoined him

thought that a very good reason

-But upon
being further questioned, he gave very intelligent answers
upon sundry points of doctrine, and persisted in his Wish to
be a protestant. The boy was nearly 15 years of age, and
I firmly believe that he was perfectly competent to form a
judgment upon the subject, and as an advocate of the
'',hts of conscience I insist upon that boy having his
of choice, and I say that we should have acted
'y if we had not given him that privilege of
hear.) So much for our partiality and
—a. As regards the two cases which came before us,
as-Mr. Owen very properly observed, our partiality and
injustice induced us to vote against our conscience, and
permitted the children to be registered as Roman catholics
although they had been registered as protestants before.
Therefore I do solemnly repudiate the charge of partiality
and injustice, and I declare in my conscience that I believe
every member of the committee was as much disposed
to impartiality and fairne's as myself. (Hear, hear.) And
I think that we acted rightly in that case. We established
no general principle of action. We pleaded it as an
exceptional case. It was a mixed marriage. The boys had
been to a protestant place of worship—they had been for
two years at a protestant school, and when they expressed
a wish to remain protestant we conceded to their wish,
establishing no principle, not courting enquiry and investi-
gation, not courting shifting from one religion to another,
which I detest and abhor—by no means courting anything
like tampering with conscience' which I would resist to the
very utmost of my ability, on both sides ; and, if I may be
permitted to say such a thing, I think there is less danger
upon our side than upon the other, (Cries of Hear, hear.)
I speak it with perfect deference, I know the protestant
I know perfectly well the character and
osposition of the chaplain, and I know what
my own disposition is, and that even if the chaplain
had any disposition to tamper with the conscience
of others, he would bend to my determination that he should
not do so, and therefore I feel perfectly safe that he would
not tamper with conscience. Ido not know the other gen-
tleman, and therefore I cannot speak so strongly of him.
but I do not believe there ever has been any tampering with
conscience bore—l do not believe there ever will be; and
therefore I request that the dock labourers will be perfectly
easy upon that subject. (Hear, hear, and applause.)
Mr. Fairhurst said his remarks were made against the
constitution of the tribunal, not against the chairman or the
members generally.

chaplain

He had the highest respect for the
chairman and his impartiality, and he had testified that

respect before.
Mr. Crawford thought it very insulting to the board, to
say that any degree of partiality prevailed.
Mr. Whitty briefly replied.
The vestry then divided, when Mr. Whitty's amendment
was lost by a large majority, only the mover and seconder
voting in favour of it.
Mr. Whitty : Very well—we have done our duty.
The proceeding were then confirmed.

MEDICAL RELIEF COMMITTEE.
The minutes of this committee were read, and, on the
motion of Mr. Bradley, adopted, without discussion.

FINANCE COMMITTEE

The minutes of the commi►tee contained a letter from the
poor-law board, enquiring whether the £56, surcharged by
the auditor upon Mr. Bradley, in reference to furniture for
the governor's house, had been paid to the treasurer, and a
resolution of the committee, recommending that the
question should be taken up and dealt with by the board at
large.

proceedings, pro-
-3n d that the corn-

nen to bear any
bers of the board
which caused it.
ss, urged upon the board
to take up the question, as one of principle, the expenditure
having been sanctioned by the committee and the genera I
board. Personally, be declared be was but little interested
in it, as he was advised by his lawyer that he would have a
remedy against any member of the board he wished to
select, for the recovery of the amount.

Mr. Br

tv occu

lot m

After some discussion, the Chairman suggested that the
resolution should be withdrawn, and the vestry adopt a
petition to the poor-law board upon the subject.
This suggestion was agreed to, and the proceedings were
then confirmed.

Mr. Woodruff moved that the salaries of Mr. R. W.
Clare, clerk in the superintendent's office, and of Mr. Con-
way, check taker in the pay clerk's office, be increased from
21s. to 255. weekly.

The motions were unanimously adopted.
Mr. Woodruff gave notice that at the next vestry he would
move the appointment of Mr. W. J. Hales, as warrant
offic3r.

This closed the general busineFs,

The Times complains of the disorder and annoyance
which the parliamentary reporters experience whenever
a debate of unusual interest occurs. This has arisen
from the relaxation of rules formerly observed of admit-
ting to the reporters' gallery none but reporters for the
London daily papers, and the evil is now increased by
admitting reporters for the country press. This viola-
tion, the Times declaims against as preposterous, and that
there exists no necessity for it, as at present the Electric
Telegraphic Companies have a staff of reporters in
attendance, who prepare an abstract of the debates,
which is transmitted immediately to all country news-
papers whieh choose to pay for it.
TUE SHIPOWNERS AND THE GOVERNMENT.—The ship-
owners of the North are taking active measures to resist
the Government in passing the bill brought into the House
of Commons by Mr. Lowe, the vice-president of the Board
of Trade, for the abolition of local burdens upon shipping,
the bill being in accordance with the recommendations of
the Royal Commissioner, appointed to inquire into harbour
dues. The Shields shipowners' societies have met, and
adopted petitions to Parliament, and have appointed
deputies to meet similar bodies from the outports and the
manufacturing towns in London. The South Shields cor-
poration have also adopted a petition to a similar effect, and
have deputed the mayor to proceed to London to support
the deputies. The corporation of Newcastle, which receives
£lO,OOO a year from the funds of the River Tyne, applied
for town purposes, met on Wednesday, and appointed a
committee to ce-operate with other towns interested in
maintaining those dues, which they consider to be "vested
rights." Mr. Alderman Ingleden read a letter from Mr.
H. G. Liddell, the Conservative member for South-Nor-
thumberland, who, ia a lar 'P measure, owes his seat to the
shipowners of North Saiel 1,, who stated that he would do
all in his p.iwee to oppose the Government measure, and
asking for inf,,ad.tion. Mr. Headlam, M.P., and the new
member, Mr. G. Ridley, are pledged to support the cor-
poration.
agricultural sub' THE POTATO ROT .—.An . .
Jests,
Considered a good authority on
.iti as
Theoretically,
a new light on this long-
have been run 0
inapplicability of the—
diseasse°dl
u. t crr
ingeniously'
etically, he mentions that potatoes
iselsed by over-manuring,.. and the
~ both combining to. make the
vegetable become
asird, as a corroboration of this,
poor mountain in good healthowws.ll
the writer very
how sheep, taken from
diea
prOceedasv
on good pasture on the low lands' ing discussed, with
soon grow fat, and
topoint
offer suggestions
brought
great clearness, the disease, he
for the remedy, and this is the chief
attention.hf
found ere
irnom
He argues that as the seed was originally
South America, where the esculant is to be
healthy and wild or natural state, that the only remedy for
the home disease is to supersede the present, by seed to
be imported. Ile shows by analogy that potatoes brought
from South America would go on by cultivation for a
couple of centuries, when again the seed should be renewed,
as the stock by that time would have become diseased, as
we have seen for the last ten years. In illustration of this,
the writer gives an instance of a friend at Buenos Ayres,
about two years ago, having got some of the natural seed,
has cultivated the root with the utmost success, where it
was unknown before. Would it not, therefore, be worth
the while of some one engaged in the South American trade
to have a parcel of the natural grown potatoes brought to
this country. The experiment would not cost much, and,
under any circumstances, would be worth a trial.