The Express.
London, England, 1850-05-11 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMEN't.
HOUSE OF LORDS—FILIDAT, MAT 10.
T►. tame ma at five o'cloati. Lord LANGDALE Mt
Speaker.

PETITIONS PRESENTED.
Law or Illakarson.-137 the Earl of POWIS, from
Sabrip,mrsiast any altered's an the law of marriage. _
FACTORY Larovn.—By the Earl of CARLISLE, from
Stourbridee. against the relay system in &Meeks.
DISTRAINING CROPS IN IRELAND.
The Earl of LUCAN laid on the table a bill the sub.
jeet of distrainiag growiag crepe is Ireland, o
which woe road
• lima time.
ASSISTANT OUARDIANS IN IRELAND
The noble EARL wished to know it it was Vie intention
MUM government during the present session of Parliameat
Ito propose any amendment of the act of last rear that would
usable assistant guardians (recommended by .blards of guar-
dians sad appointed by the Poor Law Commissionm) to be
paid oat of the rates of the avian ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said it was his opinion,
and that of the government, that the practice of appointing
vivo-guar.liaus Avoid be, as far as possible, disused. Hs
was not prenared to say that the government would intro.
dace a general measure on the subject. He bad no doubt
that there were particular cases of anions in Ireland in
which it would be useful to have viceiguraians who should
be paid out of the rates. (Hear, hoar.)
Lard UONTBAOLE hoped there would be no delay on
the pert of the poetraistent in the introduction of a bll to
amble the onions to tae tkemeelvcs.
After a slant desultory couveraition the matter dropped.

CASE OF MR. RYLAND.
Their lordships were occuphd for some hours with the
discussion of • claim for compensation urged on behalf of
Mr. Ryland. The claim had formed • subject of debater in
more than one previose session, and was now revived by
TM Dubs of ARGYLL, who propose,' a series of reenlu-
tions, setting forth that Mr. Ryland, being clink of the Eat
estiva Couccil in Canada, had tont his appointment threnigh
the abolition of that office, and had b en left without compen-
sation, notwithrtanding the premises of the late Lord Siden.
ham and some succeeding governors, aed could now prefer a
just claim sgsinot the home government to reimburse the
deluge he h.(' secret].
Earl GREY, contending that the this was a subject for
settlement by the colonial rather than the imperial legisla-
ture, moved tho previous question.
Lord STANLEY supported the claim generally, but re-
commends-I sous 'modification of the reeelutionn proposed
by tbi Dole of Argyll.
Lord SRO I:GRAM eaten-red in that suggestion, as also
is maintaining the right of Mr. Ityland to compensation.
Earl GRANVILLE supported the motion for the previous
qaestior, thinkimg that the Entente: should oe left for decision
in the a long.
The Doke of ARGYLL baring complied with advice by
withdrawing two out of his five resolutions, their lordships
divided, when the government proposition was negatived by
• majority of 22 to 19.
The resolutions were then s, opted, and the house adjourned
ate Tarter to 9 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAY, MAT 10.
T. Braa►Ra toe. the chair a• 4 o'clock.
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RECTORY DIVISION BILL.
Oa the order or the dey for can sidering amendments on
the above bill.
Mr. GOULBDRN propped that the Waits of th:
eanans should be 7501. instead of GUel. as prorided by the
bah
Mr. M. GIBSONsaI4 that on the part of the promoters
of the bill he felt hound to oppo a the right hon. genii.-
mea's mordant. To. quegi of the amount of stipent
to be riTell to the canoes had bans fully coml.:erect in
orosinittie, and it had been de.itled that 601/. should be
the sum a11..n. d.

Jitter an n-ureva•loe Lw,l J. lileveau,
Mr. FLUMPIRE said that if the amendment would have
the effect et diminishing the food applicable to the stipends
of the ;weer clergy, it would be a ir.htter mach to be re-
gretted. Is kM bll would work better
without alterative. (lieu.)
Bir B. HALL geld that the amount of salary for the
canons had been fully ditetused iu committee, and the
sum inserted in the bill was thon7ht cmply
There am ow cathedral church In MlSCheiter. sod

the. ~istri.t chisekes, all of which woe to be provided
for; aid to thought It hard that after so full and careful
• deliberation is committee, the right hon. member should
tome dowa and ads ter 7601. • year for the routtns, to the
detriment of the inferior clergy. When such • proposition
was murk, be thought it ea, time to Inquire what the cos-
duct of them eanans bad bent, sad bow the cathedral funds
bad been flisposed of. It was • ray great question with
kit whether they should hays even COOL ; and if tho right
bw gestlamta alleged thy' in other eases the salaries or
deassd been settled at 1,5001., and of canons at 750'. it
would seem that the proportion was as two to one, so that
as in this en- the dean was to have 1,0007., the salary for
the canons ought to be but 3001. He would now state to
the house the manner is which the affairs cf the cathedral
bad been conducted. They had a clerk, who was nominated
by a Roman catholic, who had bought the place, and
again appointed a depute, which last did all the work for 751.
a you out of 34,0001. (Chairs and laughter.) The coma had
2,0001. • year, sad the canons 1,000/. earl, sad of theme lat-
ter one lived at !Medley, another at the Lakes, another was
preeident of St. Bum and another had a living in
Bed:ordslaire. One gentleman had not been in Men-
cheater far 10 years; indeed, he (Sir B. Hall) b:-
lelievid be got 4001. •year for staying away. (A laugh.)
Now, what had lova the intentions of the dean and
chapter with respect to the great collegiate church of Man.
cheater ? They had intendea to shut up the whole church,
ester. the baptistery. They tad intended to take not only
the tutted', bat all the private dispels, and to let them out
in pew.. All was to be Cued to the public except the
baptistery, a spate of feet by 75, and that was to be the
whole church accontmOr6on for • population of 33,000
souls. (Hear, hear.) 'What was the amount of duty per-
formed
by the canons ? He had been informed that when
the bishop celled upon them to perform their duty, they ap-
pealed
to an ambiguous clause in • statute of Charles 1., and
refused. It was now rropssed to give them an lemmas of
7501. Mr. Morrell was appointed by the goverr-
meat ti :tonics the chlriry school in connection with the
collegiate church, Mnchester. The following was his
"Cot cab of to one of those rem of twiner times which an now
happily disappeariog under a mute just Idea of the nature sad la.
pomace of education properly se called. The instroctios is as
narrow as It le very well pssocble to be, sewing and reading me the
colt things taught. The children repeat a collect or two, and parts
of the catechism by este, bat there is• lamentable want of eniMhten.
meta. Moses and DEMO were gives as two of the dimples car Chnet;
end by several other =seers erpen`ly usintelhgent. I fear this was
am an exanerated instance at their general want of all sanest
knowledge of scripture history and Isms. There is no method at ell.
Such had been the instruction given by the dean and I
chapter to their poor parishioners. (Hoar, hear.) lie next
came to eke amount of property which thq bad adminis-
tered, and would rate it, taking the value from the rate-
book. Newton Estate, mooed to the poor, 14,8001. ; Kirk-
manehulate, ditto, 2,1191. Se. ; Husholme, ditto,
7861. 3e. ; Manchester, ditto, 7,3311. 10e.; Salford,
ditto, 3,11494 Ba. ; Amount of assessment, 20,9061. ;
Tithe of the parish, 3,0291. 175. 7d. ; Interest on
money invested, 9711.85. 4d. ; Hanalei three glebe houses,
WU. ; Olebe-house at same rate : one ditto sold,
and included in money out at interest, 2751. 6s. Bd.
Making a total of 34,0291. 18s. 7d. (Loud cries of
" Hear, bear." He did not mean to say that the chapter
bad reedited that sum, as he believed that through their
mismanagement the receipts had been only 7,0001. or
8,0001., but he asserted that that wee its rateable value.
Biz G. GREY said that the facts stated by the hon. baronet
bad no connexion with the bill. The canons were to have
13001. • year each, with 2501. more for pew rents. That was
the arrangement of the committee, and he thought that very
strong reasons indeed should be shown before the hearse con
seated toast it aside. (Hear, hear.)
Ur. DESDES, who had been chairman of the committee,
explained that the decision of the committee in favour of SOU
&year had been fax from unanimous, the dissentients thinking
that the salaries having been settled three years before by the
atielealastical commissioners, it would not do to altar them to

NA as extent
Mr. CHILDERS said that the majority of the committee
bad 137 mi strongly in favour of reduction.
Mr. HORSMAN thought that the house had every ma-
ma to be satisfied with the bill, which he hoped would
Bfre general satisfaction.
Kr. WADDINOTON warmly defended the dean and
Chapter agmust the charges of the hon. baronet the
member for Marylobate, and contended that no men
wall have performed their duty in a more creditable
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Mr. HUME wondered how men could be considered to
have performed their duty in a very creditable manner
who had themselves confessed that they had nothing to do.
(Laughter.) The statement of the hen. member only proved '
that no matter what a man was in this country, he would find
another to stand up and take his part.
Sir R. INOLIS said that the int ma of the dean and
chapter was only 8,0001., and that was not too much tosnable
the representatives of the church to live like gentlemen. He
should eupport the amendment.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND objected to pluralities altogether,
which he said would not be permitted In the naval or mili-
tary, sr say other nerviest, ersept the service of Ood. (Hear.)
r. BRIGHT did not think that the duty which at-
lashed to these °Moss in pest times had anything to do with
the question ; some indeed might be of opision that if the
same duties were now to be performed by these canons, the
leas they had of salary the better. (Hear, hear.) The
object ot the bill was to apply large fonds, and they would
be much larger when better managed, to the prater
certain clergymen who had no cure of souls is
and to accumulate a fond from the surplus to rareibthili
salaries of the working clergy of the pariah, It appeared
to hun that the committee on the NU bad done what any
eight or ten sensible men would do whtn having to con-
sider the apportionment of money under such circum-
stance.; and he was quite cure their decision wool:L=1 a
largo amount of satisfaction to the people of 11l
If parliament wished to free the church at Manchester
teem • charge which the dissenters now justly brought
against it, they would par the bill in the shape in which
it had cone tram the osersittee. (Haar, hear.)
CIOULBIIIIM bed twilight forward the proposal he
had mshesttted, believing that it would reconcile conflicting
Weenie.
The house than divided
For the motion
For the amendment
After the introduction ot several verbal amendments the
hill wee read a third time,
Mr. GIBSON airing nutic, that on the prim of the bill
be Moabd move the re-insertion of certain words in the