The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-04-03 00:00:00

HOUSE OF' COMMONS
The SPEARER took the Chair at five o'clock

-WEDNESDAY

, PETITIONS.
lir. READLAII presented numerous petitions in favour
Ofthe Medical Profession Bill.
~ Mr. W. LOCKHART presented a petition from the Uni-
'ell3ily of Glasgow against the Medical Profession Bill.
,L.N umerous petitions were presented in favour and against
the Medical Profession Bill.; and also a large number for
and against the Factories Bill.

MITCYIELL moved for certain returns respecting the
PaYMents made to clerks in the Custom-house for extra
attendance, and other particulars.—Agreed to.
Sir J. p moneyALT AND HOP TRADE.
MEE for returns relative to the cultiva-
tion rlpPs in England, and the exports and imports of
artiel.—Agreed to.

THE CUSTOM HOUSE

MEDICAL Paef•EaSION BILL.
Lthl I,be motion for going into committee on this bill,
Ivor IL GaosvErcon suggested that as there were up-
Born 3IL 100 amendments to the measure on the paper,
OpPoerdtunit al:f°cting its principle, which the House had had no
_Deed of considering, the committee should be post-
Mr, for a short time.
hi I3A
,e allow concurred in this suggestion, and observed
in the
council to the amendment of the representative body
m, that it so far affected the principle of t e
reeaTiouv., that it should have been discussed at the second
r_
Postpone lEA33Lalii could not accede to the suggestion to
rejet the
„ bill. There were only tvvo amendments
quEstinns me Principle, the other being mere technical
tke- Ps relating to registration clauses, and he thought neeYasmioin.ht be as well considered then as upon any future
Mr. -\\*
the a ALTER could not agree with Mr. Headlam as to
tneor/Tnetltn, ents being merely technical. One of the
tisine 1„`",,1s by which persons were prevented from prac-
thiq '" medical profession, unless registered under
and re-o'nuirld,,er penalty of £5, involved a great principle,
ti--``' great attention.
the rnpa.l..Teastr. offered
Sur G:ge.
e°°3lder .ntr recommended. that they shouldthe
delayod R.
Gres,_ ation of the clauses, till the suggestion of
ineataellor hadlbeen dispose I of. With regard to the amend-
he
star being placed on the paper till the previous night,
posseggd that the Government was only yesterday in full
kedieoi°ll of the opinion of the different branches of h
inatie_ Profession of the United Kingdom as to the nom. ot.f. the council, and it was in accordance with the
it had linnell had been explained to the Government that
as prou'en decided to propose an alteration iu the council,
of the i'osed in the bill. The question of the nomination
first ela"nell Must have come before the House upon t_hor
delanu,ase, and he did not, therefore, see any reason f
IvthAlr e committee.
meata AteoLt considered the admissionof the Govern •
meat asfr„t°lhe necessity and importance of the amend
"r'ed a sufficient ground for postponement, hr,_
Weiliksdea'll'oved that the committee be postponed till
kr, next.
,nat th supported the amendment, consider.ing
reforra! effect of the measure would be to prevent medical
Lordtiding p
—,,nalNcrox also supported the amendment, con-
al7d"',,at advantage would accrue both to the prqes-
eon3ide . public by time being given for the I_9lly
the pah,sling the amendments which had been placed on
, kr. Tbr•
4ntrod --4wPonn defended the measure which he said was
sion Zed with the sanction of a majority Of the profe!-
,A,tia,-.., however, it appeared had since changed their
endan ell the subject; and he urged the House not to
kril .tr the bill by consenting to its postponement.
L,ENLEY supported the motion for postponement.
_n
fayon,7,:•AbLasi said that the medical profession was
ei
Destpo,`: the principle of the bill, and he felt sure that its
tedie.l`Ment would not meet with the approbation of the
and C. bodies or of the public under the circumstances,
.11011 oefitntig of opinion that nostponement... was the destruc-
the Pro pie measure, he should divide the House against
ArPosition of Mr. Walpole.
sit;seme further discussion,
Dortai GaEY admitted that amendments of im-
opinit:- mould have time for consideration, and as the
Of post °f the House had been clearly expressed, in favour
i?"enient, he advised the two hon. entlemen who
oivisin—trge of the bill, not to press the question to a
n.
km IN
Air, 4.,".17.4.,)nix supported the amendment.
refer tii` lloNconnE said, he would support a motion to
1 The matter to a select committee.
A ouse then divided. 'nThe numbers were :
•,
.r...0r going into committee I
181 or poStpollement R

some remarks upon details of

T,
Iltsaclin-"Q-koLABI said he wished to come to an undpF-
ra€l,l g with the Government, upon the subject of this
to lite• He had been led to expect that if he undertook
;thee nig in the bill, he should have the assist-
all) -1. Government in passing it, but by proposing
Petioda,n2andment in the first clause at a late
they had brought about the delay that had taken
Tod b Under these circumstances, he abandoned the bill,
r'r.:"°,-,l)ed the Government would take charge of it.
ill r —; 'REY said he had never promised his assistance
earryinthat the bill through Parliament. He die not think
o
cok any
advantagea would have been gained by going into
govroe ethat day, and he declined, on the part of the
)4 rn„Tilent, to take charge of the bill.
trl; At?°La did not wish to get rid of the measure, but
.
tefer ?ught its object would be best accomplished by
ktr:g it to a select committee.
to laic GuAnir thought it was the duty of the Government
°the
mr.o jharge of the bill.
re li, Sir J. PAKINGTON, Lord FBRINGTON, and
Lot to'arecommended Mr. Headiam not to abandon the bill,
Ptah, peo to refer it to a seleet committee.
°lxtraittee was then fixed for Wednesday next.

yards.

COL W 7, THE FACTORIES BILL.
4tr. rAisTEN moved the second reading of this bill.
4a4Co.nIIETT looked upon this measure as impolitic_ and
iin ta4"°l4: as it Would mutilate the Factory Act in itsmcst
if'4erttant provisions, and make accidents from machinery
Lorccirits of More frequent occurrence.
said 4 s
ne • 4. MANNER held that no legal decission
.could
Siileeond , to exist as to the present law.
ne amendment of themember amco.rdially
eci
th
for Oldham.
%stilt agreed that if the hor. member agreed to
te certain modifications which the G Government
tbe Se arrange, they were willing to support the ;don for
Loreaad reading of the bill.
titicarldlLSTANLvir took part with his hon. friend who intro-
Promai'Vt bill, and, for himself, was willing to accept the
kr. Put forward by Sir G. Grey.
kr• ir4,rly oPposed the measure.
Nerie 'nNTz remarked that from a great many years
tliat V.l° all iof machinery, he was con i d
w horizontal' shafts and drums more harm than
ould be done
fir
• Clizt,„„ •
and Mr. .., ,ROTHERT oN defended the
"'`'./4
W
rATTEN having replied,
the ad' ut4IIR (I:midst es of "Divide, divide,") moved
ItrP'ettnUnent of the debate.
111 e prliA \tntms defended the motion.
-12ar i„—ntAse divided. The numbers were—Fo9r the
theajZ2nts 9 ; against 198. Majority against, 18 . _ veint 'ate as then a'djourned by the standing orders, it
The Ztld a Planer to six o'clock. er orders of the day were adjourned.
04 41,
for Atb'le NEW WRITS.
of Mr HATTER, a new writ was ordered_
e 0f6;"..e.: in the room. of Mr. Keogh, who has accepted
‘;ranlllo,, °no of her Majesty's Judges of the Court of
lAIA be; lie," ill Ireland.
..„.-rit was also ordered for Ennis, in the room of
-rltzgerald, who has accepted the office of Attorney-
Th al for Irela d
e tfo n
41a adjourned at six o'clock.

THE
PENINSULAR MAIL

, -the 0 SOUTHAMPTON, WEDNESDAY..
Alkii 'i).,,lltltan
specie,
has just arrived with the Peninsular
b'siriB,,):'`'ging 31 passengers and £715 in
Q3th,l7, a general cargo. She Loft Lisbon o the
p.ibieit
°I th r° has presented to the Portuguese Cortes,
report
Of tibie,t)art of the Finance Committee, the report
on the
,ttlittliZ"Y on the Thornton contract, an. I.oEttl-c,sation to the government to negociatethe
t° be -t three millions in bonds, at three per cent.,
I3llbli aPPliod to the construction of railways and
koe works. The report was passed with
istomoef
aspeneations in favour of Foutes, by a major
1111-.41) tt° three. The discussion of these measures
the •-gerti();- Yet commenced ; a vigorous opposition_om
the 1.,F3 exPPeted in the Chamber of
Peers,
affectfr
the ,„'asen that the Proposed tax will chiefly
Prep,!,e4Thers of that body. Bad weather
.s_till
cgis ;
'4 Portugal. Exchange on London 541..
f QrBlls./..r • saiI:TING INTELLIGENCO.
P. 411 i j 413, March 13trrived, bark Homer, 18 data
red).
4th. ~1)001, with a general cargo, for Genoa (c ea s
for qitu4k Enthusiast 13 days from Liverpopl, with coals
,4 Dooi, , jaltar ; bark Jeani Johnston, 19 days from Liver-
da;:trh coals for Cl-1) eltar 20th, Steamer Frankfort,
'''rettoi—•r°lll Liver 001 l rwa with . a general cargo, Gibraltar,
ilati: ..4.eghorn, anid) Naples (cleared); schooner William andb
Adta,:B? 18 days from Liverpool, with a general cargo for.Gt
4car stet ,atea alian, 6.1- days from L'pool, with a general
, for Genoa'' , Leghorn and Naples (cleared) ; schooner
ClibrEtalit' la claYs from Liverpool, with a general cr•go for 'at. 21st • Brig 20 days from Liverpool,
• Triton,
4d, .e°als for Co ,
tndsor,
h 's from Mars nsmp (cleared),
.s
• teamer W Nattr eilles, in ballast, for Llverpool
for ,Ite josephine 15 days from Liverpool, rata
(c.le,arceoda)4
arZ.;braltar. 22rid : Steamer Emily, 5 days from_.
23re.itli,,e1, with a general cargo for Gibraltar and Liverpohola
84,4: , teanaer ean3ander, 5 days from Malta, with 4.1 cargo for Liverpool (cleared.)
tritn,,,l. Sl°l)3 at Gibraltar—Screw steamer Ariel, steam
AttrttTrent, and Eteamer Meteor.
vlar 4,_lBQ°n•—The usual Portuguese squadron, the Frencho
ki,,, '..anter Sentinelle, H. M. screw steamer Blenheim, 6
w‘")lo?edisli corvette Lagorbilk, 16 guns.

TOWN COUNCIL.

The usual monthly meeting of the town council was
held at eleven o'cloek yesterday, the Mayor, John
Stewart, Esq., in the chair.

FINANCE COMMITTEE'
The proceedings of this committee were read, and con-
tained the following recommendations : _ _ _

Recommendation to accept Messrs. Parry and Fowler's
tender for coalq. - -

Recommendation to accept Messrs. M'Corquodale's
tender for pri,,ting. _ _

Recommendation to effect an arrangement with Mr-
Joynson, the purchaser of a leasehold interest for seventy.
five years in land corner of Oldhall-street and Titheharn-
street, and of the freehold interest in adjoining properly.'

Tithebarn-street, whereby the improvement inthat street
can be carried on to the extent of snch last, mentioned

property, the sum of £750 beine allowed to Mr. Joynson
from his purChase money hythe corporation, and, with

the *approval of the lords of the treasury, the freehold of
the land, corner of Oldhall-street, being conveyed to him.

The Proceedings also contained a- letter from Mr.
William Earle to the committee. urging the necessity of

• _.
widening the thoroughfare of Srnithdoxvn-lane. in con
sequence of the opening of the new cemetery there, and
stating that a portion of the ground owned by Mr.
Thomas Earle there would be given gratuitously for the

purpose, that...the executors, of the late Mrs. Blickhouse
would do the same, and expressing a hope that the present

Earl of Sefton would follow the. example of his.fathPr,

and aid this public improvement by giving the portion he

owned for the same purpose,

Mr. Rornby propOsed that the tender for coals, which
was, King Orrell coal, lOs 6d ; common coal, Ss 6d: slack

coal, 6s, be adopted

After a short conversation, the resolution was carried

Mr. Hornbv proposed that the recommendation with
regard to the printing tender, be confirmed.
Mr. Picton stated that on a former occasion, Mr.
McCorquodale sent in a tender for printing to the museum
and library committee, which was the lowest, and was
accepted. After the work had been done, Mr. McCorqua-
dale sent in a request to b allowed to revise his tender,

as he had forgotten to make any estimation for the paper.

(Laughter.) -He could not helf, thinking that the memo-
rial had been forgotten upon the present °cession. He
thought it would be better to allow the finance committee
to act perfectly unfettered; for from practical experience.
he had found that the best course was, where matters of
importance were wapted,.to get an estimate from two or
three respectable parties, and make use of it in giving out
smal'er matters, which required expedition, and which
they could not well get an estimate for. He therefore
moved, as an amendment, that the general proceedings be
confirmed with the exception of this recommendation,

which should be left in the hands of the finance com-

mittee.
Mr. Robertson Gladstone supported the course which
the committee had taken, and reminded the council that
Mr. M'Corqudale was a perfectly responsible person,
whose sureties could be proceeded against if he did not
execute the-work according to the contract.
Mr. Picton's amendment was not; seconded, and the

recommendation was confirmed.
Mr. Hornby then moved the recommendation with

regard to the -arrangement with Jr. Ferguson. He urged
that the improvement which would be effected was an
extremely desirable one, and if this opportunity were lost,

the council would not be able to effect it for Many years

It would widen the street,

so far as it went, twenty

Mr. R. Gladstone thought this was a step in the right

direction, and would be a very excellent arrangement.
in making that arrangement, however, he would have

preferrod that the value of the freehold had formed a
separate arrangement, because that would have been
carrying out a principle for which, during the last four

year's, be had on various occasions attempted to contend
that such moneyshould' be applied to a fund, or invested

in the purchase Orland in the Outskirts, se that when the
council wanted a street, they would have a street already

widened for them. He was. aware that they could not do
this without applying for power to do it, but he was satis-
fied that it was necessary and would be granted, and if
they sold a freehold, as in this instance, the corporation
would gain by it, and they would have what they had not

now,a-street with parallel sides, a street orderly and
decent to its whole extent. Even their very best streets.

Castle-street, North and South John-streets; which seemed
from their first appearance to be excellent streets, were
not, any one of them, the same width all through. Why ?
Because every one had been allowed to build for himself
—there had been no desire to preserve order or decency
in the appearance of the streets, He would wish to see
the corporation adopt some principle if not retrospective,
at least having opference to the future, so that they should,
in regard to all new streets, have something like a rule of
decency and order preserved.
Mr. Charles Turner wished it were possible they could
possibly consider the subject of taking North John-street
right throngh to Oldhall-street. . (Hear, hear.) That

would be really a good communication between the north
and south ends of the town.

Mr. Alderman S. Holme said he was afraid this was
too late now. The council would recollect that two or
three years ago, he .had brought that subject before
them, and strongly urged the necessity of carrying North
John-street through. He was afraid now, in consequence
of the old buildings being taken away, and offices of a
very expensive nature being built there, the corporation
had allowed the day to go by. He was afraid it was now
too late to think about it. Al all events, if they did
think about it, the council would have to do, as they
generally did when they decided upon carrying out any
experiment—they would have to buy the new .buildings
very dear, when they might have bought the old ones
very cheap. (Hear, hear) He should feel himself bound
to vote for the arrangement, but every member of the
finance committee knew that he should vote very relne.
tautly

for while anxious to carry out all public improve.
m'mts, he should wish to carry them out without inflicting
a loss upon the corporation—as upon this occasion he felt
that they were paying very dearly for their whistle.
(Hear, hear.) The simple facts of the matter were these;
Mr. Joynson had purchased for £22 per square yard, a
seventy-five years' lease of a piece of ground, about
380 square yards, at the bottom of Oldhall-
street. The price he paid was satisfactory to the corn
mittee, and was satisfactory to the council by whom it
was confirmed. Mr. Joynson had become the purchaser
of a large piece of freehold land, about 770 yards, from
Mr. Garnett, for which he paid a large price, and as the
property of Mr. Garnett would project some feet further
into the street than the new line of improvement which
the corporation had laid down, and if the improvement of
Tithebarn-street was to be carried on, it would be
requisite that Mr. Joynson should give up 50 square
yards of land for carrying out that improvement. The
price which Mr. Joynson asked for it was in his (Mr.
Holme's) opinion an extremely large one. Calculating the
reversionary interest of the land at 4 per cent., a rate
which was unreasonably low, the reversionary interest
would be worth about £lOOO. His private opinion was
that it was worth a little more, but he would give it up,
and take'the opinion of the surveyor, and call it'xlooo.
The council was then called upon to vote an additional
£750, making a payment of £1750 for 50 square yards of
land. He would grant that it was not for the
council to say, because Mr. Joynson was going to
pull down his warehouse, they were to ask him to
make a sacrifice of his property. The council was not
about to take away the front of his property, but they
were giving him by that alteration an increased frontage ;
and although it might put Mr. Joynson to some incon-
venience, yet if he (Mr. Holme), were the owner of that
property, he, of course, would not let a warehouse stand
in that position, which would naturally be taken down,
but he should think that it was his own interest to deal
with that property in the same way as another member
of the council upon his left hand dealt with a piece of
land in Fenwick-street ; and should think that by giving
it up to the corporation, on them granting him a rever-
sionary interest, he should be obtaining a great benefit
for his property, and conferring a benefit upon the public.
(Hear, hear.) At the same time, if the council did not
accede to the demand, Mr. Joynson had a perfectly legal
right to take down his warehouse and set it forward to
the old boundary, and the council would be under the
necessity, at some future day, of purchasing from him, at
a very largely increased rate, a piece of ground which he
would soon have vacant, and for which, of course, they
should pay a much larger sum when ho had erected upon
it new, handsome, and expensive buildings.
Mr.-Bennett moved a direct negative, thinking the
cost required a very unnecessary one.
Mr. Woodruff seconded the amendment.
Mr. Earle said if the amendment were carried, the
council would make just the same mistake which they
had ever done. He did not know Mr. Joynson, but he
supposed he was an obstinate gentleman, and. determined
to have his money. They could only make that great
improvement by that means.
Mr. Piston and Mr. Turner supported the recommend-
ation of the committee.
The question was then put, and the recommendation
carried by 44 against 4.
Mr. Hornby then moved the confirmation of the general
proceedings.
Mr. Alderman Holme seconded the motion.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

'WATCH COMMITTEE.

The minutes of this committee comprisedlappointment
of assessors of Mr. John Whitty and Mr. John Denton,
to the lighting rate, for the year 1856-7; proceedings pre-
paratory to laying a fire police rate, not exceeding one
half-penny in the pound; proceedings preparatory to
laying a watch rate, for the year 1853-7.
The minutes were confirmed.
At the instance of Mr. Hodson a memorial from Henry
Price, who has been twenty-four years in the police force,
and who has now retired, having received many hurts in
the service, was read. The memorial stated that he had
been awarded by the committee only 6s a week, as a
superannuation allowance
.after such a length of service
and prayed that it may be increased.
4The council generally appeared in favour of the prayer
of the memorial, but it appeared that there had been con-
siderable difficulty in bringing the memorialist at all
within the operation of the act, under which the super-
annuation fund of the force has been established. Mr.
Hodson moved, that the memorial be referred to the com-
mittee, but, on the advice of the town clerk, who had
looked over the act during the discussion, withdrew it.
The general proceedings of the committee were then
con firmed.
On the motion of Mr. Charles Turner, the proceedings
of the dock committee were then confirmed.
On the motion of Mr. Alderman S. Mime, the pro-
-of the courts of law, and St. George's-hall com-
mittee were confirmed. From them it appeared that a
letter had been received from Mr. Willis, stating, that in
the construction of the grand organ, he had been at con-
siderable expense beyond the amount of the contract, and

ceeding