The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-01-23 00:00:00

DOCK COMMITTEE.

The usual weekly meeting of this committee was held it
one o'clock yesterday, Mr. Charles Turner in the chair. in'
other members present were Messrs. Rankin, Palmer'
Robinson, Brock iebank, Chaloner, Rounthwaite, ifoltort
Lockett, Mondell, !Anders ,n, Bold, llubback, Rathbo°9'
Chilton, Smith, Evans, and Barber.

MR. MANSFIELD AND THIg DAILY POST.
Mr. Smith said—Mr. Chairman, before proceeding .71
the general business, I wish to make a short statement;
explanation of a matter which respects myself persono,
and I shall endeavour to do so so in as few words
possible. In consequence of certain remarks made
at the last meeting of the committee, there appeared
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following morning in a leading article in the Daii,V;i
a paragraph which, if I were to pass it by unnoticed,
leave me under the imputation of having made a delibeiT,
statement in the committee which I must at the time b
known to be incorrect. The attention of Mr. Mansfield
drawn by some one to the article, and he, unsolicited,o
my part, sent me a letter which clears me of any itnputati
in the que.tion. I shall not trouble the committee';
reading the latter on the subject, which has already occur.:
more of the attention of the committee Won was desiraD:
if it could have been avoided ; but I shall hand this ler;
to the reporter of the Daily Post, and he, I ha ye no dn'ity
will deal with it so as to put all parties right With
committee and the public.
The following is Mr. Mansfield's letter:—
MY DEAR Sia,—The following paragraph Ifirst savrwhe!,
it was sent to me by Mr Bold, on the 29th ult. It was
sent to me by Mr Rounthwaite on a subsequent occasi'l
You took it up and read it ten days or a fortnight since iu
house, and I then told you it was imperfect. I presten
it was not taken from short hand notes, and that tbe
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fore the reporter must have more or less relied upon 0
memory, as everybody must who tries in ordinary writing
keep pace with a person speaking.
At dig
MR. MANSFIELD AND THE DOCK COMMITTEE.-4.-
police court yesterday, Messrs, Farnworth and Jardine, e
summoned for having caused an obstruction on the qusitif
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having 200 deals there, which had been delivered frooPs
Sea Lion. The clerk from the firm attended, and explais
that they had taken away more deals of another sort. vni,i
had been passed on the 21st, and therefore were
liable. The case was adjourned fo.. witnesses to prove 0;
such was the case, and Mr. Mansfield made the following%
servation in reference to the firms in the timber trade. Bessie,
while on this subject, I wish to correct an erroneous imD
mien that has been made to the public in consequence of s'i;
has been said in another place. A statement has been °L id
that the fines I inflict on the timber trade, is only
Shillings and costs, at the south end of the town. I belie 0
that all the timber trade know that such a statement
utterly false. What could have been the inducement for
gentleman to make such a statement, it is not necessary e:o
for me to inquire into. SuftLient for me to know is, tA,
it is utterly false. There is another statement made in wo
same place, but on a previous occasion. Some gentlenlo
of the Dock Committee waited on me in reference
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inflicting these fines for obstructions on the quay. rj,
were more gentlemen connected with the trade who irl:;11
upon me, and from what they said, knowing that they
greater experience in what was goinc, on than I could
not being eugeged in business, and when the matter was ',A
before me, I took it into consideration, and I 'earl;
the scale of fines for the obstruction of timber at the the cic44
A gentleman of the Dock Con;mittee, insinuated that I P
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in reply to that deputation, that would not be interie
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with." I can only say, I did not sta:e anything of the °lv
and the insinuation of that gentleman r. not correct. of
business was then proceeded with.—No:THEß's
TIMES.
The other paragraph, which I also enclose, ;enersll/o,j
correct report of what I said, and was shown to, and I+,lr°
by me. I have never 'declined to recognise it as such.
DOCK FINES.—In the course of Mr Mansfield's adjudicli
on dock informations, addressing the court, he said :-W P,O
on the subject of dock fines, I might as well observe that .0
incorrect impression is going abroad among the public sq'td
respect to fines. In a certain place it has been recently 04
that the fines inflicted by me for timber obstructions tst;io
south end are only 2s 61 or ss. I believe that none of 0,
gentlemen who are engaged in the timber trade would corr:ot
rate these statements. They are entirely false. Vor "-to
purpose such statements have been made, it is not for °Li/
enquire ; but I can say that they aro perfectly and absolgo-e?
falsehoods. I treat the timber obstructions as Ido every°4
obstruction. When it is proved that the timber is an obstrne",,
I inflict a heavy fine. Indeed, several gentlemen bsdei
expressed to me their opinions that the Pell'i
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for timber obstructions were very heavy, the
sometimes a hardship. At the same place Othot
statement was also made, to the effect jai,
upon a previous occasion some representations were 10;1
me by gentlemen of the Dock Committee, of the necestiest
inflicting heavy fines for the purpose of keeping the quas'l„r
and inereasinq the scales of fines, which were made by get 01,
men cf greater business experience than I. I accordinglyto,
the matter into consideration, and increased the scale of 6e'
A. gentleman in the Dock Committee insinuated tha:ll
replied to a gentleman who called upon me, that I
not he interfered with. I never said anything of the sat'
Daily Post.
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The reports of the _Daily Post I have generally fon
be very accurate.—Believe me yours faithfully,
J. S. MANspisl,"
50, Mount Pleasant, 20th January, 1857.
The ordinary business then proceeded. thi
The warehouse sub-committee recommended that,
salary of Mr. Edward Bowen, warehouse clerk, shoal'
raised from £9O to £lOO per annum.

LIFE BOATS.
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Mr. Bold asked had anything been done in regard
new life boat.

Mr. Lockett said, the old one was being repaired.
Mr. Bold said, he heard a leading member of the gi',ol
committee, Mr. Littledale, express a very strong opillt'ftll
the other day upon the subject. Tbat gentleman wetniill
far as to state, from his experience and knowledge cl,lOl
boats generally, that this was an imperfect boat, and `.0%
an immensely superior class of life boats was now bet
tet
made. He should be very glad if the marine conatIl"0
would consider the point. and see whether that oPilibit
was correct. Mr. Littledale gave it unreservedly asj
opinion, that the committee's life boats were not sog"
as could be got.
Mr. Lockett said, the marine committee bad reeei°,4o,
several suggestions and applications from various partial
which were all referred to the marine surveyor, to ret
upon next week. gr'
Mr. Brocklebank thought the proper course for :dt
Littledale to pursue, would he to bring the sulToe
before the marine committee, of which he was a 10
ber.
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Mr. Lockett said, Mr. Littledale was at the last 111-„el01
ing as one of the marine committee, and he did
make any such remark upon the subject. rfes
Mr. Brocklebank said, the committee would, of COti
be most happy to adopt any well tried experiment. iole
Mr, Lockett asked what life boat Mr. Little
referred to a
Mr. Boldbelieved he spoke of White's and the tubtll)r
boats.
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The chairman said, every life boat sent to the c oei
mittee had the consideration of the sub-committee, 3reil
of the surveyor. The tubular boat had been consicle to
by the marine surveyor, and the men beloogiv!it
the life boat service, and the- latter did not lis"00
The committee sent two of the men with Mr. Richarle
who invented the boat, round the south coast, and loc
were absent some weeks. He should not like the Pc!'oo
to suppose that the subject had not, from time to 'lot
the consideration of the marine committee. Lietitensitll
Lord reported against the tubular boat, because, altb°dl'iy
it possessed the buoyant qualities, it could not be eas
got oett against a head wind.
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The marine committee unlertook to give the 5&'J
every consideration.
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The finance committee recommended the folio` `hp
salaries to be increased :--The salary of Mr. nerc,et
secretary to the audit committee, from £3OO to £3501,0
annum ; that of Mr. Marrow, receiver of dues. NO° tie#
been in the service about thirty years, and had his (10
od
lately considerably increased, from £350 to £4OO ; 10'
that of Mr. Laidlaw, computer of tonnag,3, to be
creased by the addition of £25 a year.
The recommendations were continued.
T his closed the general business.

fer" 0
THE 0
QUEEN'S COLLEGEs.—It is stated that CP,.
ment is about to issue a commission, at the head of whicu.ries
Temple is likely to be placed, for the purpose of Ar'
into the internal economy, curricula of education, andtba
tendance of the several professors and presidents O'tiooo,
Queen's Colleges, and the several rules and reglll3o
which govern each, with a view to their modificattoll

improvement,
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THE GREAT GOLD ROBBERY.-0n Wednesday, Prt-ortillt
the opening of his business in the court 3, Mr. Baron N 3,411,
heard on ,i;,!dication in his private room, Westminster fey
upon the lahj;-ct r,f the property seized by the police,vee
the appreneu,,ion of Pierce, Burgess, and 'rester, the 'OO
prisoners, la,: wpe's convicted on the great gold robbett'carti°
at the Old Bailey. After some discussion, Baron ttll
said it would be best for him to adjourn the proceedivhgfor;
Mood:Jy next, when any of the parties might come "esti°
him with such affidavits as they might think proßceer'illetP
when he might have the a .sistance of his brother, atiol
The property involved in the settlement of this aPPI: iefotlo'
amounts to about £2,600, principally Turkish bonds, bpr
in Pieret,'s possession, but belonging to Agar (or rat.:so4
Fanny Kay ant her child) ; £6OO belonging to
.13urge''
£4OO (also Turkish bonds) belonging to Tester.