The Express.
London, England, 1850-02-05 00:00:00

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herring to the luxuries imported from foreign cosaUries, tras
to the staple articles of most vital eonsacnanee, earls a, core
orweoakthpoer
let
them not rest content under the supposition V.at England
innt,tkatund ofth
would be exempt. (Hear, hear.) Let foreign corn be ad-
mitted free of t.:zation, and before Ion; Eneleb prop.
parity would be reduced to a low scale. he,:r
He stn • d up for protection for every native article ae well
as agriculture. Under the present system they would
be undermined; the same menu that presented act- Ives
in Ireland would quickly spread ever the land, atd then
what was to become of the happin.ss of the agrieul-urel
population? (Hear, bear.) He agreed with the bee.
member for Montrose that the first object of legislation
should be to take care of the great labouring p puletini..
Mr. MONSELL said be would take the liberty, :a the
outset, of making a few remarks in reply to the ststrineate
of the hon. gentleman who had just resumed his mat. m
far as he (tie. Mansell); recollected the mune of the &hese
the hon. gentleman was the first who hid the holdre se ta
assert that the present misery. of Iselin I had been ast:ra.
eared by their recent commercial legislation. (H. ar, I. )
Ile entirely disagreed in that statement. (lieu, h-a,)
He would not take advantage of the admiesioes made hr ad
gentlemen, as regarded the improving and proepsrous c
dition of the north and east of Irehnd Ile would gr,
of the worst districts in Ireland, a district which be rcpt .
vented, situated in the vide ity of Limerick, end whic:, esaa
in n most miserable aid melancholy condition, indeel it
would be Impaisible to extorter:ire its condition. Trt, land
lords were without rents; the labourers were starvinr, and
the capital 01 tho tenairry re, idly disaprearing ; hat y t ),,
averted, were it not fur the change recently mad, i„
o inmercial legislation, hod as at present was tt e .•
dition of the people in teat district, it would b.,
under the eir:utastances, treldy worse. (11. ar, h. u
What had toren the history of the co:a trade hi the part of
Liaslti le, in a rich and a:ricultural district, during lb • 1$1.;
three sears? This, that that the imp. rta had pr
seeded the a :ports.(liar, hear) In 1347, the 5e...? $
from the port of Limerick were 209,000 quer•ers, es.: the
imparts 472,000 quarters; in 1848, the 'alert
295000, and the import', 207,000; and :n 1P1.),
e1..0 is were 182,0 A, ;.ad the harms :;91s,
quar.ers. If free mad,' had tot thrown ,
our pores to the admission of foreizn core, the r, sal.: en ::
have keen the: in Ireland they 'mull have heel c ,
to pay an additional price for the tit(Sl of corn r,
over that exported; the poor rates would have n ~ •
end the condition of the eour.try in very r op, et w-r s .
vita to the failure Of the potato, Ireland was an es; •..
country; since then she was an Importiud cour.lr: .
ivr:n,t so, it was onential that else should get h• r .
cheoply as poseitle. That proved at once how the si.7. ,
en Inland on the potato crop sees the result of t•
tire system. The agitation en the subject which t n
car.ied on during the last three months in Ireland „,
imrnenes injury, by setting clast against class—(s s• , ~j
—by impeding the proaress of ketprov.niszt, hi. o;.. r.. v
the people from sell reliuece. (Hear, hear.) Ile in p 1,1
of hon. gentlemen to be certain of the soued toss st r
principle balers they sheided upon continairg a (no,:
which they must perceive was at v2riance wits the b it
'crests of ;he country.

THOMI'SON, in reply to the remerk fri m the hi
member for Wuwiskatire, that we end c to
freignere became' they were not texed, • •
gle w:s not between taxed
foreigners, but the taxed agrioulturis
bounce of Bralford, and such pin-, who.,
molt, those good. that went to pay I the
The question war whether that interest was b.
in order to cc cure another.
Lord BERNARD had beard with surprise from
member for I imerick that free trade bed btu. L ee
by causing her imports to ieereese and h r tx„urs
crease. (Hear, hear.) lie had yzt to :earn,
free-trade measures ba 1 bens ht. d Irciaud. It ea.,
employment that had c.used Irelmers misery. ar d
tection that employment would be set ured, by c
worth while to cultivate the moil. Hu genie.)
results depicted by Mr. klen.ell had folioweo
,ecion meetings, at some of which, be s.el.
staunch repealtre, anxious l.ke li:ettself to protect
industry of the country. He begged to s
the government that there were many wits to t•
might mist Ireland—and amongst them Le o
a diminution of the *norm sus presser • nt grand
ti on and poor law instalments. In the C.,
the grand jury cess had Mc:eased from
to 130,0001. a year—the inaeue being f r
staiments to the gov,rnment, the tuts f
ing of which he thought might taiely be es
There were other auxiliory measures which mi..tt
beneficial to Zeeland. Durir.st the last year tt,
had misted the construction of railways, one o:
his own neighbourhood wes now m log ; i, t..
they did not think it fie to continue that
might, at cli events, uses som • measure with p:.
steatite to three of the Cirlway Act, comptaing
give their land at its Lan ora:ue. He thought, a. 1)...•
government should introduce ether measures to :t..
the taking of land be railway compar.i,s. I:
were done effeettally, he was conv.nc d VAr
ways might be constructed at 5,00 d/. re •
per mile. He wee not as advesite of frte
but if they were to have Ire. trade in Ireland, let it te
and afford to the Irish farmer -he means of carry ioe I
dues to the dearest market. Ha hoped that the a IVe.
would yet gee the justice of enabling the Irish I.e.
compete with the fo.eigaer by bringing his pro,'.tit. •
better masket. The noble lord then referred to the
of the navigation laws, and declared tree trade t
mrcktry and a farce, while the government nee'ec!,
ports of Ireland, left her coasts unlighted, and cone ;u
vessels to he wrecked on her shores.
Colonel DUNNE would not undertake to deride err

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free trade was or was not en injury to Ireland, but he
matted that as England had abstracted all her mar.ufact.
it was hardly fair to leave unprotected the only industry
to her. The hon. member then proceeded with some c
lations to show that though tr.e number of inmates ire
workhouses bad decreased, the amount of charge
poourate remained undiminished.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that his right hon. frier.: •
Chancellor ot the Exchequer would shortly have t r rtiet,
proposition to the house upon this iubject. The
had been for some time ntder t e coatideeatisu of ‘•
meat, and he hoped that on an early day hit hcr.. 1,..
would state his proposition. As to the question of to: •
on which the noble lord asked for some assistance.te
he
would 'not forget that as to the trunk lines, h.
regard to the South, and South W.. 0, and West, Ih. re :
been schemes which had been proposed to per:ism-iv.
were now bein.,7 eitricd i:to effect, As to the net•'7.,
lines, he honed there would 1).; no diflktilty • •
p'e•ing the lire, which he t• 11 the how,' .
year it was de&rable the government should
As to the statemett of the hon. gentleman who pp
that although there had been a diminution in the wt.:2..
relieved by the poor law in Ireland, there had be. r.
diminution of the expense, he was in error on that ;us..
The expenditure last Deeembee, as compared with ill,
penditure of any other December, was 60,0001. lee.;
the decrease of expenditure, from 1519 to 1350, •
9,0001. The hon. member for Montrose had addressed
the house some observations on the subject of the ere!,
of the franchise. He would not enter into the argumei•
or give his reasons at the present moment, but it wee
the intention of government oi propose any bill for the
tension of the franchise in England, during the pre-
ear. He hoped that some gentleman would brie; the
jest under discussion, and he (Lord J. Russell) should a.
be ready to maintain the opinions which he now held
Mr. FREWEN asked the noble lord at the heal ••t '
government, if the Chancellor of the Exchequer r
government intended to propose to parliament that tt• :r..
rest paid by the respective railroads in Ireland shou:i
more equalised.
Lord J. RUSSELL war understood to rep:y .0
negative.
Mr. SADLEIII trusted that the hon. gentleman we
press on the government the policy of what he ;tree
equalising the rate of interest. He countered tha:
diminution in the number of persona reciivi,.:
door relief might be accounted for by the
of human life which hail taken place in Ireland. Tl.
were an immense number of persons'applying to host-,
guardians for out-door relief who wire refuse/. A.
present Gee-trade policy which had been d,115,r.•
adopted by this country, be was anxious that this uric
policy should obtain a lair trial. He felt it to be imp
that every description of food should be imported free 0:
into Ireland. With the lash tenant it was einineat.e
question of rent, particularly in the provinces of Leinster
Munster. It they could cultivate these lands ander t
curity of a valid lease, they would see their spiky to a
useful and prosperous condition of their present tame•
the difficulty arose as to the equitable adjucment of r'
There could be no doubt but that the condition of Ir.:,
had deteriorated under free trade. The land heel pratut
of cultivation, and as for wages, there was no rate of a..
in many parts of the south of Ireland. Able-bodied
were glad to work for two meals a day, and lodziae:
outhouse. (Hear, hear ) Ile wished to impress up.n '
noble lord at the head of the government, if he .
place the Irish labourer in a better position than he I.
present, the necessity of introducing some general
culated to place the Great Western Railwn railways of Ireland o the some tee!
as the Midland ay, with res
to the acquisition of land. A short bill, giving
' the railways the benefit of what was cal,ed
Mulliogar clans,' would be of incalculable Iteciti:
land. (Hear, hear.)
Lord NEWPORT could not let that
without stating to the house and to the government the
adinTmtisernatdmtimentwhhaidahlinth
try. He rejoiced that the government hal declared the. ft.):
that
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ccaused
d is
h the
throughout
did not intend to offer an insult to the agricultural intim:.
but notwithstanding that disavowal, he could not but r.cof
that the speech had not contained different language. A
meeting of the operative silk weavers held the other .I.IY
take into consideration the rights of labour, a gentler',
the name of Kidd, whose acquaintance he hail not the hoc•u.r.
of posemsing—(laughter)—but who was, he undetstood.:
tachi d to the chartist body, declared his belief that the
doctrine of buying in the cheapest and selling in the dean
cantinas of the operative silk weavers were, he added: 4
intiPewhouhtothne*c.
a week; and with such wages they must neensw,
.4;st:
market must prove ruinous to the labourer. The
the ranks of pauperism. Those observations were
mously sheered, the cheers emanatie
but from the operative silk weavers of the metropolis;
was a significant proof that the operatives acre con
whether or not the theory which he lied mentioned wass:
Ile should regret to see the government defeated by e
nation of politica partiu t in that house ; bat aides n 1,
removed the duties which bore especially upon '''. ;
the people, they would have to male. way for other sari
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from 1ant100..,7,