The Express.
London, England, 1857-07-18 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 18, 1857.

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bort • der ship to we Pr dessieg end degisg, cad
el baddlisen to them who bare
liAlle=sWiene IreseeiVi to and
so bonestbiel nen thesiVerrocieg
sad swirred die kap abwa 11ww Irk bold&
d bp der ask awl Ow Wile elks mkt illse bre •
Eider esoserbire to lii. Wks be Ikkliwki hn-
loy • think ihr ell gray Ear weeks coat•
gin
=IN. lic- eva_dniji!sb le Alwaks.
Os
Ile
IbieVeskilli7 En • wiwwwwww• wraiV
Os ems riper hre Al&
iliewoirae
lea ell sim.
ilseseabre wee the et be stemleses Aires elms
irk Wider re bilge to Ins Goa al be
ei..._hoso elle spa wilt ben, obtained Ras the berme
le as reO bee; akar to carry over 4,000 =grow
itedst banter. There led been •Mb Parreem
lido bin. Ist list yr be erre at be Aires arm
trek. The erre el he Pasch goewerst ere elltring
fa. • bed rr mad le be. mete_ asi It wow INK red
rtitai ?Lt ,I. trostia=ortkbaZneentara gges Lire
of 'Morin —rat mire weed ern kite it,
hood a ship for the pa of lis. • sr" with • certibersr
swot of weldor in The Estero of be arr.
yr mls TM ewe had se Err *sr as dr eartent
Wow bed al Se ma ; it we weld rale lir It
le is ble Datum hiss the dive beir wasadelditarst. eit erne it lid bees WM ire imply
ems& by thee lima Indic; so bat to peeper to these
free ranee d Ails to go ernes do ewes le • mew
world we. ore( he wildest Omani thee wet prorrediel
bin the pr metell ilogimation of a haw* hag. Why it I
'or oil ad all ZONIIIMMa would fends/ there with mi-
grates Is be member of SAO. Now Mr. Fit:mei& and
artier griers. dr re MO of du, plyinastors of one of
her Ifojestfa thigkedil bet them men were employed by
Sr pre et le err le dire • mesa amounting to 2s. 3d.
or b. ed. • der. 10[ eerie they would not Rant the 3.1.
or 4d. a dry dirt by the Illeams. Regis. His noble Mewl
Ims4= =••••31,1 to the colonies, whose absame
be mete as attempt dtho dirk
heweed mid >M now bresnes. • ea
side by ke adrift et want d sad errs.
for yen bill est of the bruin to In he. • hoe
igesiss dbe African coast. 111. noble freed was my
mW]duped to by the sreriment, and he
ems to modes ble the meter. He did so, 1211ffsheted" C
It was Is ash b most emigrants due' the Imagesse. Se
add berm owl sa seined to listen to the gesred. ad
ben re ate Sing be pirlsre wars ado. dist ; be
MIND imam Is. r datimod it, rower abaft }be
ywol
wiped's dike Mew% sad with the& view to wiped
be
wierdeMikes Adkisson it was • retry prithdle alb
lolles fir lie le ime • skre, own bribe per•
pond Wow that rata thatwas as ti e& is Ile
veer is km taiga" as trim tar is
ens. gyp! able lei tkes re gler t
lera as Is rgrit d bads to the wort =
We bid
MEWb kid • idtar kern • friend of his who bed
bra penis Arnim, and who wrote, " Agitat-
ion sed rerette ow kaki up—(that was owing to the
libk yin • f was 4 The grogrietors who wee wise and ebb
steep names edrasfetsi during the seams oflow prior,
me sow yoreeleg." Ist be said, " Try ambit at welt
dim it; bamboo belt b It P NotelideeNly Sr pied
grime baring more then babled, the bier= re sour
erns ter idled to work at the same rat. setibe key UM
st lin beet ebb, saintly 9.1. to Is. a day. II Ow stem
to eve from la isi. to le. dd. • day, Uwe weld be as
Tory rpm esmildie as they coal employ." Be sm
tray sad Waldrop those woes roe to ease, di
he asantini.2:9 now working at the prod's&
perk Ike the einiuse, and if you only
give bomili., er recalls roe la • day, they prefer labour-
ll=le waidarg at de plantations." lie (Lord
ai sot bias there would be any difficulty in
stesdinleg neptes from Africa. Only let it be known that
try were eller to pay as may vomit ehehes • haw;
sly Ink le Mown to the satire (kabala is kw soda
tabs le we Sity INN reedy to pit • esern. end Ito wadi
serer ir 6 agmemeld bete d dens
to lir aserie be sod set awl ibes. ydini:e
eiders des 41 mold kyr le be
New Wall was be is Addis kr
ttribilsontrisrlintri2Zirtiek".l2=
ernr aid er eim them hub
eeress el all merwares, thet iltoili
Eill Inn lie lima—freer
ES:llllfierediZillhe IN
raliatb2 baslX riby
I by
rem rib to dens he moot rpabearG
dlr. to Trim that nice ti:
Ilk vet tow pi prim
lAntewn norm risk&
Well, tow, look at the slid co he Abbe himself. In
weirs parts of the wadi dreary' erg* but in Africa
he pike. bed less aired le thisiselllebr the lad three
anders; bet be land it bail hiss blirro confined to
bet pet air eadil. ale NW Sr.libieirlek told him
gm=white 111111111•111 mealy yeses sop. No doubt.
Pm leibiFailbelmit els mbar et a chieftain,
111 grim MN arm based 101. Bo different
1110111110111•1111, illlliblein Oi the slave trade, that
he 'due era be id left a strict injunaion that
Mt Imes mane drover should ho mods et his
raid lit am seat uneriner muter
air seinele indicate r
he "
tam of he yen
beret risk lid ler ermilwred are the ewer. Wiser
ad be may drip. The 'Nitrate oommerse et the suer
ley.bed breed The smear et the sues re
rimirls dikro edam pm mews. is rim eli the
bade amounted to • Wien end •MN steding. This
re whet they ease mild era to gin _up ~
eke ins the arms risk = were owes to
darken ; this woe re they IMO bid
it 'me their daty to est orril et hareenert Is
trade, in the arts dice, awl is-esies. dr. libisblek
west on to say : " Abrams re es • ?rt__AsUll...t
If they wee re *renew, rid espolis
this ember she to yrs espatelars," whZll7l
esti Wfall keit twaddle be goer Aldan=Lee suppekri ins le rid • pralien in the
MOM geemsbb .nel winisik they rad use rather
lesweedeer is deb yr awry thee ere he. b. The
embh bell atembir may le whie bele to their
tal=low dr • skit she ani Oen eh nerd as
bled elm !lien by 1111, IMINIIIIES b -beet Oak to
WI Ask ear verb, rite-Ad parr se batMIN Ile.
=7 del• UM push, 11/111111.1110M10.11 11111
es die tbey me at kw" yd. net ern kb
lbollibmisl weir ; eel le amm int lbw void le in
demi bp sprit dWA o per nerd' bp le • abet
I emir be 100 yams b skeet The IL M. Reek bee'
ever ge arse to prism the devere leeks es
Ps Of inner embring kr na reef melee :t
Parr Wei sal he to eiteldir • trim el ilea
melystion. It b I le 4Wwwwwiapt•
re realm Impede le beseirst stir b
km It aree* trovibe • dregs et mires, ids net
mink y, thet Ike sew mike awl be weerry ma o falser
way is neer dyke re Minis sevarderned • awl to
ski, I It is barns sr
et which
see am It is Idle le bet a peer Atrkaa
he bit linned to bit frWr mil • errs to his
=die les pert Mffill&
dm
I
b t
The iln
Om wbeery be ter eon-
w7 ib * erlordesdbg. re ill mot
ioniwitir • sr awl imp seer Is • astir bad.
Ild len in to weir the smear will ; an • =atom
krwlll prima blo pert et the erre& Wks his owe
der is esirsedel be to try ern his mighten's ; bet
lir
.Isai=zied war, end rem who ham
1. Ma orlinsaig. Tb.
rlrair wey ea tre wit bib Ids kplw—lis ask owl
`kied etut—asl petty diet ell Mr re MIA"
_tow was be 'me inslider. •
=isnes mmodeil the Minn bait
he be bed kr wbandersind. Sr rid
brim mashed be yeti& ble at lir der Is we be
edam* le yontarmay 'Maim peedirst; Ow ihreses,
be mid. hid less bra that the Awe re ovally bland st
bora be died, " it k so each thing. li_ rein to
bb termer fa the heads at the man sisvidader Wore
In is asafrov Ile Amid that the Atrium ewe nutty
Yodel el bore.. The throe, ho mid, wen not • awl
right ; aid be adlitiarti the slave trade le lo le mind
k lie mow It P her. ot es veil he rewind kke old
liem, bet by well mw he. tram re leltrior,
dm red le deed is vita well Mimi in
mirk d dr rob ladiwbwyb.lheeWe. TM wile
pireeseki le mg kr be set boob es id di&
ssid as aelle dilliesky.lbe ierseibilly et ye-
maim le pne Wryer temeig IS bard km
est le some lijirgar learnest. Tim
Wiedity wee lbst el Ltibgeell
to amignmile."—lit efewskrealirMikerisi._ inset
stelepet pareller, sail se want trig died law
lb derime eregt bey • yet Air Son vos • risen
beer. Insa *ay semissma ad so may pond=
roe emmeney ens le NSW Debi adinle kr am
rad IV le swim le beniti ling an al mos
see k els le air tag drop lo esedlole say
tan d ant ins be mid et Mir b tremo-
r* set kidlynt Aldery bet erivllled Atri-
um. Ns bete sst Sr be lel me.
le all a Ibis scrod, swirl le mild aaaliala pet
Vrtbrefinire
cl= tpirbl: It% riVI
nisi irdasi= Nil its aperbr wilt die
fit ever its barsw_le wadi
neisse le my bet lb silWaribm le WM, es in
shallika dist Mrs ire beik re the lbsigt
sum &died ekes/ II rink bb
Ws as be twalike eel d es en la mind b
be trek ilia be tried we was shoot to trim he ow
keg eel mai birdie Womb Alin, aid sell " It le be
i wrasizeialat br
epos e der die anti Eery rem Ibeelep midi
os um at in ribs peril d be wadi—
seil bevy:7 14.11•=eljlt be Aside(
bilursyriert golikk k ww mikkikil.=
=bike mei edarive aid mast legnieel."
iml bad bed isill by meeley—"Tbet
Soler FINIMINIiddEr= ho. Ss Airs
spirt be Wet klin be OA iimyka a
a be mum d lake is war ens All
WI sot he WI bis sari trilina:Rio pe•
rib Ili ironed dive Mlles or le Ilef
Kill Ile bledielir Is Se orb et root mei erne d
net es kwite ailderflis grente kr,
rpm Or he reit be purely ilelete
1 yeatielmesee OM A earns
ma roil sr by Met adiest orkree essag7rllase /g
Vim lier Swab dliesesteremaa
bine • gesmsle Ailey
eley mom Ore* er assimerl elk ilie
dine Iff arm dopiest laver."

The Budd CLARYNDON wish not attempt to follow
hie says rid Minn Mend thong\ all the details of the
&bleeped' tat Leh lied gedmeil him motion, fur he
wend yen end +i men that he concurred in
eery ha fallen front Me ma k and learned friend
Iseigessila deny attempt adsebta le promote the re.
vivaid dm dove trade. Ha eolith eel horned friend had
accurst* stated the opinion et bow Mejeety's government,
and tread with great coneolleneo the counts of the preeocid
, top wide bad taken plot* in iffielmmeaction. lie thought
Or WNW and teemed friend bed done no more than ju-
in Mir Lower of the French, ad he moat add to the
yawl t also, who, Its die convinced, were we
ef intentionally giving ornewerment, dinivt
rank le the revival of that therksble think as we arm
re
(Hear, beer.) But he Merl that his noble
loud leered eimd had brought forward the [notion is the
eloquent imelimpressive manner which had Invited sonic of
hie noble ad learned friend's address; because as all the
world thew, his noble and learned friend hod for c long !P-
-rice of years- eisry year", os he had hitimelf told their lord-
ebips-Imn the indefatigable friend of the Affirm negro and
the seccerful champion ef the natural righte of
1 that race. Any opinion of bin noble sal learned friend
on this subject would necemerily be received wish reopen
sod attention abroad, as well as at home, and o,e es well
as hero it would be felt that he would not been brought
the question before their lordehips in the solemn and
hirersl manner of risking them to concur in an address to the
crown, if he had not men some rouse for eoprehemion and
alarm in the proceedings to which he hod called attention.
He (the Earl of Clarendon) Loped their lordship would sage
to the address for which hie noble friend bid move], bearer
it could not but strengthen the hands of bee Mejesty'n gams.
went ; though he could wenn, their lordship@ that that wee
not required to • stimulus to them, foe-se fee from the sub-
ject having escaped their attention-m far from there briar
any intention on their port to knit thomeelvroi to the pridmi
of the Enmesh government-ho sewed his noble mid lemma
friend that it had been a matter of constant and bintidentid
communication between the two governments, and that me
effort of her Majesty. government would be wanting to pod
rent the establishment of such a state of thinge on his sidle
and honied ilinnd had eheilowcol forth,and to check the slave
trade by every Dwane in their power. (Hem, hear.) But
France, like ourselves, lowing abolished slavery in her
colonies, had experienced, se we had, great inconvenience
from wont of labour, and now proposed to supply that want
by the importation of negroes so free Lthounve-but without
renewing the slave trade, or giving any encouragement uidier
to the kidnapper or the clove Wider. The French govern-
ment had boar perfeetlp frank in all their proceedings-they
had never dhogumed either what they intenekid to do, or what
they hail dote. Bo long ago we 18.53 they informed her
Majesty's government that it was their intention to pra-
ctises clove from the West Corte of Afliet-ttlAnti-
lode them immediately, and then introduce them as free
labourers into their colonies. But we (paid the noble earl)
at once repreeented to them, that before slaves could be sold
they must be made, for it was altogether o mistake to sup?ire
that slavery was the genend condition of the Africa twee-
that it wee Mss @lovely existed, and doves were employed by
the [Vries. did; fur their own purposes, bat not in greeter
numbees them wen sudeisnt for three peeprime, and that if
slaves
wen •4111kilbeee the additieseiMesmbeit must be pro-
vided by or internal wen, veva by one tribe
&gaited moan we wined sr also that It would be
difficult to =the the flies odiseetted where the difference
would he balsasseilna abets to French [peculators for
exportation to the TM* minim, and welling them to the
'lave mar, lobe eillemeolt add to the pinto at Cuba-
and le milk to them dm es ems treassation was to be en-
overard and Sie gibe robbed daft pseotty of lure: v.
(Haw, boar.) Ibe Pare dementdorm unten&il
that they weenie ode Wed See kiessurkeethes 'Larry
tr=creel lealtatia lama Isothey, mew vo-
ting* most be ramissrlly de to Sec Bet in
SWIM to that segusset we otherved. thal titrfoan Ma-
blialted the rotas the motomploted, ears sentries might
have remorse te ib-Mel might prolond to
by
Africans
ea fret Mese= ; sod if the system wend by Prance
with or MIMIWIIIw, we should lose right and
the power to pelmet sad mat la Wag acted
upon by thar ether aadW of when isetitu-
tione starry no still a wt. The Frame govern-
meat then mid dot they mould todeavows to make
the experiment d Mr lerelgention of tree lthemees;
end, in the ad amid dot wee made, we sew pod teem
to it the emesimese my mode sod Maid Mod has
~OA mid we spin brought the ottatet hire the
Poen& preeddeot, ad they Weems war in the
lions they was Mimi le weed Thep Mid es Cr*
parson@ Wee hid sot Ile isms Sew Me Vouch govern-
ment, MR. Its" would have to dad sear with negro..,
born freemen, ee yea as had bees trader along time-that
they had emortakel that such penises might be obtained,
who were 'Eked labour for wage,s, and fora limited time;
and that emalen of the contract was, that they should
be restored le Oak motive country elm the pwiod of service
MOO eMpirod. AAA they hither mid, that the systmu they
=.4would_be pried by the roe preentionn so were
E the gemoemast, when they sought to
ildrednee free labour boo their Wad India colonic.. That
wen, no doubt, perfectly true. But than we informed the
, nisch government that we had abandoned the practice, and
ensiddered the continuance of it impomible, fur the reasons
filch rny noble and learned frimd hoe quoted. We found,
en ell those parts of the coast of Africa where slavery did
not eller, so few Degrees disposed to emigrate, that it woo
utterly funk to depend uppoonn tabour how that source ; Let
a greater reason the simian woe, that we
toed it gave it. to enemsom impressions abroad, and
amongst the Atrium therehes it wee .apposed that we
were shoot sped to give emonrogement to the elm
trade; sad, la one InsWos a chef ettedly rode war
upon e neiglibkg errs la the hope and ex-
pectation that he awill Maras of his captive. to us.
Another came wend es the comet of Mozambique, and that
place being under the Preach deg we brought the matter to
the knowledge of the French government, by whom peremp-
tory [Aden new sent out. Ten minutes ago he received a
conneunicalion Seas the Admiralty, containing a dmpatch
front Commodore Svelter, which contained .peonage rearm-
ing the Maw d the gem eemeet es te the twee proposed by
the French govereweene, end &Meg that the French coneul
et dosambigns not colythesougbly objected to the system as
a revival of the sire dude under another form, but as eon-
te the adage he led swerved. He (the Earl of ('laren-
don) meatismel Ww fag to show that the subject had had
the corked ohm ten of Ye Negestre pousrement, and that
New theidediestef delhad gemmed to inform them
flirty and opea/y dal their esesesdiege. With regard to the
Kamera% the teepeeleent babes tent by us and had failed ;
but be did not knew then he wet the entitled to say
that it woad not esesod with ths French people, Re lied a
*rad Admit the gendassa who dm =ambit the sem
ha erased to in getwrively placarded in diemLew*
the condition, ea orldeit the IC mooed were to be en-
homed mytkot Whom conditionewithi Leheerelly
be could see neereetke to them. This placard
said that the labourers wee te be perdied with clothes,
peeper bed, medicines, Ind mined atheism during the
voyage-a certain murky of wake par ear-that they were
to le employed (or germs at staid wages. ad that at
the and alike porkd they were M he seal leek to their
bum Ike of espeessoothes thermions& to mole under •
new egreement. Dei then& we in,, est media to say that
thk Ink* as swede' the 'Dooms, writ reemarily be a
=mesa spirt it oaths* med. neverthelera
the game erections to it the he did to the pro-
peed dr impeded laborers from other torts dike African
cord Ike bed never yet herd the there wee eny &eme-
tics an the pert of the Xiamen sr the Abhor of other
pane of the cent to leave their egain7 for the make of em-
ployment. If, then, the eyed= was to be maned out, it
wadi myth* the 'posted esselso eed wateriness on the
part ad the Puma poommint se wall se of wer ewe. An,
la egneberke, he veal moor the ammo= tilt, if it should
be Mod le be ended with the eassoposers which his
edit ad hind Med equal* her Magedys goverment
wadi ad kebab to bitag-6,6K1 =the the notice of the
Plena pviesmat, and in meld ad doubt that that
do'sdidlomeasadas hem what they led shed y done,
weld same 4011111• E the yeestkoldo d the Park the to'
arm spy geoceelles win would hods Measeary to revive
the slave trade er slavery in any kan. (Ileac hoar) (The
bbake Let of ths noble serfs spa& wee ray indistinctly
ead the sallaryl _
The Zed d 111AIIILIBBITRY add Wes was soaddeeblo
diftheace of *aka as to Oars the !erelong mead be
=lla to ere of Hunt.Re tail waived a latter
8 day from Or Bogy Had, who was
Gomm, of ad who Odom he did, that
Ii would be a pad boon to aid le Akita too, if
ea eyed scald le devised for the et Africa which
shied tend to Oak elviliettha Isylehmthr thole into MOM
ed abed commirmiteles ad etmoszian with
fiend
ms% mil If than mans d arm now
ils weds is Amelia old he bought bee VONTO-
-111111mitioNt. WBi Gm ether smil with no lees
harms der dim Weds des ;Ms odds eel loomed hind
missfaltai, Sr E. Had doe Weed with this informa-
tion neilthees and with no Yes horror of that
teeth Mir (the d now promo to offer
Oda to Sok Meddle eaaiiag the R. Hunt said
Rd Ss Zessorth who lokehitel 600 am of the mast from
M. 0•11116161 Min L. wee
ny parrelly liandeyed in
tothellits sod ea rho ee. by Res runts
belles le Mks. end that *won herdwidy mspield
glen athipiles duds to Mr god we
isissr. vas
den des thet mete es Mr et
thou is olds aml boned Mad eippeml 61,7=
ad Wilady cored le had Ode ewe erentey; end apt.
, WSW that le Isar • ors ef
BM ITOOMIIII
• demi bum
NiWhig et the pow the
tin; thst D Mem= IMO NO=
Aldi cesqedbe seat be=
Ompey lfessede Pe eider •
Sri were le thesear ythm-sel Pen
vas 1,811/ miss Oisa lestenme bblill taws d Sok mthemdayid*
_le midgets a amerell.wer
• dithere cd mid *mSok Isms& TM Loma
are sever slaves, sod weed dens tam then egruot to
r- alarm MIL Rest ;pp eam& • sdquerd, in
aged LIOINNII 1/1111.1/6 sad as
lekesema is Ss Wit lads kiwids
tiarthe
=iiimemsellikos :-Ithet. Ad they amid ship at
; od, that r Zummoia den the Wed Isfte
dada be webbed lei at Sloes Leos id the West
Mks; IA id ..t PONS in M. Wad ham *mid
le Nadel he ibis maspltd..mit Got IS" &raid he bold
et se edge elese; dilielhat Hoy dada sew Im allied in
de Wed es the ogeeddlso d big empisged;
Rh, Set liskee a op moil ad Se Restme a !
home dada he *dad ibut . steno;the seer le le malmeidd mathsflaaeiirrvdodtrleedey I
Oth. Ilteldamgigelr aided Me Imo drag he
ad to the Ilea ; aid dips want
:Zed lie b=rildilirdiginid btsurepea

9th, that hi no ease should the Hummed be subjected to cor-
poral punishment ; 9th, that no regiateer-ia-chief should be
appointed except from Euglend itself; 10th, that the Kroo-
men should nut be transferred or let out fur hire in the Wed
Indies, or be allowed to work except when rceneed, without
the sanction of the registrar-in-chief and their own cement.
lie bad thought it right to lay thes before the house, in
order that they 'Meld °enabler the subject in every light
before abandoning in despair the ides of opening up Africa to
the influence of the more civilised quarters of the globe,
or gave up the hope of providing 'Auer for them places
where It wee 6o much needed.
The Foal of IiAItItOWIST believed that the Kroomeu
were willing to be about • considerable time from their
homes, but whether for six years was another question.
'Their habit wait to go away for not more than two peers at a
time, and he doubted whether the object in view wee attain-
able by the plea proposed by Sir H. Hunt. The noble oar:
reads letter from en Ahicen chief to • Liverpool merchant,
in answer to an inquiry as to the prewibility of obtaining
free tabourem from the coast of Africa. The chief did
not underetanl labourers to mean anything but slaves, and
with the lb, that slaves were ascent mit he had made in-
quiries and could obtaiu ea many as were wanted, end the
prim would be four boxes of hives or copper fur each man,
women oir child.

Lord BROUGHAM, in reply, referred to an article in the
organ of the slave-holding party in Catalina, stating that if
England and France should determine that the importation
of no,grues into their wiLimes from the co .et of Africa was
free emigration, the old trade of importing netr,roes would be
equally open to the southern Metre of America, mot the en-
forcement of any contract for wager would have .Perwards to
bo decided by the courts, According to the law of rub
so that when slavery was estslililhod by public opinion and
the law, there would bo no witless.
The motion was than agreod to.
The following Lille passed through committee Lavery;
Otfeures against tho l'emon ; Malicious injuries to property;
Forgery; Coinage Of •nees ; Deer, Dame, and Rab-
bits; ACC114106114 and Abettors* Bills.
REPRESENTATIVE PEERS (IRELAND) BILL.
This Dill was read a third timo and named.
CROWDED DWELLINGS PREVENTION BILL.
Tbe report ef amendments on this bill was maim!.

JOINT STOCK COMPANIES DILL

Thie bill was!veal a third time.

On the qmetion, that it depose,
Thu LORD CHANCELLOR said that while he was op-
posed to giving priority to any judgment creditor &phut
joint stork btuks, which It wee Om object of this bill to
prevent, yet Ina attention had beet called to the question
of registered judgments in Inland, which operated as mods
gages on the estate, std ho therefore, proposed that the
sights of such creditors should be preserved =leo they chose
to give up their juctgeduts. or that the mortgage should be
taken in full sets/faction of their debt, so as not to enable
them to compete Will/ odes r creditors. He proposed there-
fore that there should be a clause inserted after the 10th
clause to the effect, "That nothing in the act should apply
to or effect the rights of creditors, unless with their consent,
who had obtained judgments in Ireland which had been
duly registered."
The Earl of DONOUGHHORE was understood to object
to the proposed clause as unsatisfectory, and to object to the
poet facto legialation of this bill, which naturally affected
the rights of those creditors who had caught a remedy at law
spinet the Tipperary Rank before that back had been sub-
jected to the operation of the Winding-up Act.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said that no doubt this
wad ex poet facto legislation, end deprived some parties of
rights which they might have *squired ; but it was intended
to put an end to an interminable syetem of litigation, =dike
only question now was whether these regietered judgments
should have priority over ethers. On the face of it that was
somewhat doubtful, but in consequent.) of the peculiar state
of the law in Ireland, which made these judgments set
as mortgaged on an estate, it would be unjust to
deprive those who had obtained these judgments of them; but
it was also equitable and just that if they had this adventage,
those regidered judgment creditors ought not to have the
advantage of the dividend which had been paid.
After a few words from the Lesko CIIANCIILLOII and the
Earl of Homers ii stoat, the clause was agreed to and the
bill passed.
REGISTRATION OF LONG LEASES (SCOTLAND)

BILL.

The report of raitemdmeriTsoiKge bill wee received.
TURNPIKE TUUSTELAEOLITION (IRELAND)

This bill paned through einsunitten
CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was toad a seixad time.
The hum adjourned at tiro minutes to eight.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-FRIDAY, JULY 17.

After 'brief respite of some ten hours, " her lllsjoesty's faith-
ful Commons;' or ouch of them as were able to leave their
bed*, reeaseembled in the honed at twelve o'clock, juot fll5 the
sweepers had completed their tank of removing the shreds of
paper, and fragments of " votes," the debris of the last de-
bates. Bede In the vicinity of Palace-yard see now at a
great premium. When the pitting wee suspended et cock-
,-row the house had just determined not to proceed with the
Cruelty to Animals Amendment Bill, on the well-known
principle that "charity begins et home," and immediately
afterwards they adjenu-neri until "noon this day."

PIIIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lordle' eeleeilnicete to the Ely Tidal Harbour and
Railway Bill, Tyno Improvement Bill, and Wimbledon and
Dorking Medway Dill, 'ewe considered and anrecd to.
Sieith's Divorce Bill was reed a third time and paired.

I'ETITIONS )'RESENTED.
LUNATICS (SCOTLAND) Ell L.
The house went into committee on this bill, resuming its
consideration at the 17th clatter. In the course of three
hours the bill pained through committee, amendments being
moved and discussed upon several of the clauses, which see
upwards of 100 in number.
The LOltD ADVOCATE moved additional clauses, em-
powering the Home Secretary to appoint ono or two medical
torn as deputy counniesioncre, at a salary not exceeding
WI. each, each appointment not to be longer than five
yeere ; the board to mow after five yearn and the mid
Impactors to bo the inspectors-general in lunacy.
The clauses were agreed to with some amendments; as
were clauses introduced by Mr. Dunlop and Mr. F. Dondan
BURIAL ACTS AMENDMENT BILL.
The house went into committee on this bill, commencing
with the l6th clause.
Mr. CLAY mooed the addition of the following proviso to
the clause " Provided also, that each regulations shall not
invalidate or interfere with any contract or agreement for
the burial, in such cemetery or burial ground ma afortesid,
of not more than sic bodies in the same grave, nodes the re-
gulations as sforesatd as to the depth and closing of the
grave entered into prior to the Push* of this set, and which
shall have boa approved, prior to the passing of this net, by
the local board of health of the district in which such ceme-
tery or burial ground may be sitnstad."—Agreed to.
Several other chums were disposed of, and the down then
resumed.
Mr. WISE brought up a report from the committee on
public petitions.
The house then adjournedfor two hours.
The house mimed at 6 o'clock.

PETITIONS PRESENTED.
Srra Snip CANAL.-1/ Mr. 1312IYFITIL from the
Chamber of Commerce and anufacturse of Edinburgh, ins '
oorprwated by royal charter, in favour of a ship canal same
the Isthmus of Suez.
AMENDMIIIIT OF TUE LOCAL lissraormstr ACT.—By
Mr. Loma Kiser, from Clapham, signed by upwards of 600
iihabitaat• praying that the Metropolis Local Management
Act may be amended so as to separate the parish of Clapham
bum the Wandsworth District Board of Works, and to cen-
tre upon the vestry of such parish the management of its
affairs.
TIIF. ROHILLA PRIFICFAIS.—By Mr. IV/daring, from
Mhulee Nuleo Khan liahadoor, of Rampnor, in R&M:surd_ ,
in the presidency of Bengal, stating that be is the hi bead
of the only daughter and heiress of the Bell Anted Holm
Khan Bahadoor, of Rampoor, and chief of all the Hanle
tribes; that upon her father's death, in 1840, she was &-
paired, without any cause or excuse, by order of the Indian
government, not only of the Jaghire of Hamper, which
had been the inheritance of her family, and labia receded
to her by the Mabommedan law, but also of A lb saw
real and personal property worth at loan N lam it mien
to which, by the law and custom of the annalm is was
entitled one solo heiren ; that the rakes!
_bpi promnisill •
petition, fetliog of redress. in India, film ltresift, theensh
the Homo Secretary, to which no asset waste, and
another petition through the Ikea of Ondeod, is NYE Or
answer given was that such palling &Ida NM
the home government, and the tar pillow =it
' sok leave to address her ble,trilp bun lioneC andteellae
.•ons
who were the authors of the et NAN h• mew
plained. The petitioner, the en warp weele Nee
nee wee blocked up, except Mrs linsmtri peellamon,
prayed the house to inquire into Sr dramirm at by
cam, and to cause right and *Aro b beam TN Inn.
=labor moved that the petition In pliiiii.
BATH ELECTION minim. _ _

Mr. DORiiAN repo74 from the committee appointed
to try the merits of the petition complaining of the return of
Mr. Tite, that Mr. Tite had been duly returned at the but
election far the city of Bath. The committee further re-
pots" &atone voter had been induced to vote for Mr. Way
by • ramie of employment but it did not appear that this
womb with the consent of Mr. Way. The committee re-
peeeilthe assn of ecveral voters who had been struck off
is poll so la no right to vote.
DS OCR ELECTION.
On the motion of Lord A. Vane, a new writ was ordered
to be Loud for the election of a member, In the room of the
Marquis of Blandford, now • member of the House of Lords,
ORDNANCE SURVEY.

Sir D. NoßniViirmictio;llaZi the notion tar
going into committee of eaggly be druid ma Mie
et the how to an entry wbfaib it is Ihe jams& al
do House of to ilme eine tied rbud& Miss be
pnemeted to her ,pee, ad Upload
order an inquiry inie the wink aalgiset at We naked
survey. (Laughter.)
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS.

Mr. DlLLiffirg=ve iso;lOrti:a; he Intended to postpone
the =nom which stood In hie name ea this matted, at the
motet of several gentlemen with whom be mealy acted.
THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT.
1r E. PERRY rave nodes that he would more nut sm.
Mon that the government of India be Wane/erred in mammas
well se la bet, to the responiibie salabluee of theerown.
DUBLIN AND KINGSTOWN RAILWAY.
Mr. G. A. HAMILTON, on behalf al Coked War,

wished to ask the Tios-Prosidesd of the laud of Trade
whether he had received a metaerhal from certain penman re-
siding in the vicinity of the Kingstown Railway ; and
whether it woe the intention ut his department to interfere to
oblige the dire. tors of that line of railway to run trains sc.
ounting to law f
Mr. LOWE mid the government had received the memo-
riel referred to, which they tmosmittod to the Dublin and
Wicklow Railway Company. As he had nut yet revived
their answer, it would le premature for hint to sten what
course be would lake, further than cue would be taken to
see that the act of parliament was observed.

REVENUE I'OLICE.
Mr. G. A. HAMILTON, also on behalf of Colonel Taylor,
mid he wished to ask tho Chief Secretary fur Ireland whether
it was intended to amalgamate the revenue police with the
constabulary; and, it so,whethrr provision would be made to
secure to the capers of the firmer service their status, sad
progreadve rank and emoluments.
Mr. WILSON said his right hon. friend wait aware that
three years ago a bill passed the house by which tho census-
bu/ary forma in Ireland were permitted to assist the revenue
pthm, with a view to the prohibition of itiicit distillation.
That act operatoot se well, that it we. pre/toned to e‘teuil the
principle then adopted. It rem probable that before long an
amalgamation of the two forces would bo shooed ; but, of
courre, whatever odious of the revenue potion were not ab-
sorbed in the constabulary would have a just and fair pro-
vitiun made for them.

DIVORCE BILL.
tepty to Mr. &meek,
Lord PALMERSTON said the Divorce Bill would be pro-
waded with on Friday next.
THE BATH ELECTION PETITION COMMITEE.
Led It CROHLEY wiebed to know whether it was true
that the right hon. gentlemen (Mr. Herman) adjourned the
committee yesterday at two o'clock, for the special purpose
of attending a certain naceting P
Mr. HORSMAN raid the queetlnn of the noble lord Me •
plied more than mold be anawered in a eingle affirmative or
negative. It implied that he did, of hie own motion and
without notice, take upon Memel( to adjourn the Committee,
to the great inconvrnienee and expenee of the partim, fur the
purpose of attending a certain meeting in which he took an
interest. The noble lord would be glad to learn that ho had
not pursued a course see unusual and improper, and the other
members of the committee know their duty to,: well to permit
him to take such a muss eif he proposed it. On Wednesday
be knew the meeting was le take place, and on the minmbling
of the committee he conversed with two members of it a. to
the possibility of being able to attend the meeting. The sub-
ject woe mentioned to the members of the committee,
who treated it na one which depended on the convenience of
the parties. lie therefore DMA the counsel whether any
Inconvenience would arise from adjourning the committee at
2 o'clock. Counsel mid that so far from being inumvenient
it was the C. 1114) they themselves desired. Nut a word was
Rai t sus to the object of the adjournment or that it was to en-
able him to attend the meeting. Twenty-four hours notice
wee ea, le to the parties, and be believed it did not add a
single shilling to the expense or came any delay whatever.
He did attend the meeting, and if the noble lord had been
present, be was sure be would have been very much
edified. (Laughter.)
Lord GALWAY hosing moved that the home at its
rising ehould adjourn till Monday, said that when the right
hon. gentleman prop,. it the adjournment of the committee
he had not the alighted notion that the object was to attend
the meeting in question. Had he been aware tbat ouch wit
the object of the adjournment he certainly ehould nut have
assented to it. (lime, Mar.) He thought it very unfair to
the parties, who were subjeet to great expense in promeuting
these ilection petition.. (Hoar.) And in this ease it so hap-
pened Heel they wineluiled the beam:min two hears that day,lio
that were it not for the adjournment they would probably
have Ithiehed yesterday evening. (Hear, hear.) No doubt,
the consent of counted was asked for and given readily, be-
cause it was very convenient for counsel to give two hours to
one committee and two hours to another. Ile saw the
counsel who were engaged in the Bath petition sitting in two
other menu after the adjournment of the committee yester-
day. Ile begged to say Le had concert with the noble lord
who aged the question. Ile thought the course taken by
the right hon. gentleman wee meet unprecedented, and trusted
that it would not be made a precedent of. (llear, hear.)
Sir H. VF.RN EY end the noble lord made a modake
in stating that the committee had only been occupied for
two hours, they had sat from eleven till tour. (Hear, hear.)
77as feet was that when the right hon. gentleman proposed
they should adjourn, no objectien was made by anybody, and
Collasel on both sides said it would be very agreeable to
them (.. Hear, hear" and laughter.)
Mr. NEWI)EOAIE considered that the adjournment of
the committee wee quite contrary to the usual practice. It
was fortunate, however, for the meeting that the right hon.
gentlemen took the chair, as his influence was exerted to
prevent the adoption of a course which would have produced
a repetition of the deplorable peened which hail before taken
place in the bouae—(cries of e Oh," from the 'anaemia'
benehee)—and which had nearly del to the authorities of
that home being brought in collenon with the authorities of
the law. lie 'dialled to ark the hon. member fur Swansea
(Mr. Minn) to what day he intended to postpone Ida notice,
which war on the paper that evening I'
Lord CIALWAY admitted he was in error in stating the
committee had only eat for two hours, but the greater portion
of the day was occupied with a witness brought up from the
eountry that morning, who could not be produced the day
before.
Mr. CHEETHAM expremed his regret et the course
taken by the noble lord ; 24 hours' notice of the adjournment
hart been given.
Mr. /LOEB UCK remarked that the noble lord had mid he
would have divided the committee if he had known the oh-
' keel of the adjournment. Therefore it we. clear the dinxion
would have been taken net on account of the parties eon-
' canted, but on amount art the opinion of the noble lord.
(CAP of " oh," and cheers.) Ile made no difficulty in
meenting when he did not know the motive for adjourn-
ment, and the object of the meeting would have been the only
mound of hi* oppeition. It was clear that the properal for
fb arljoierrunent wee made in the hearing not only of the
but of the coeel. The noble lord indeed meinunted
L'ue' un
counsel
Resented to the adjournment to serve their own
pirate intereete and cast a elm on the counsel. (A Laugh.)
The noble lord might laugh. If ho skinned a frog it would
he amusement to him, but it was death to the frog.
' (laughter.) It might be an amusement to the noble lord to
can reflection. on hon. gentlemen—(. oh, oh," aud cheers)—
' but he had made ineinuations against them which he lead no
right to do. The parties were present and the suggestion for
the adjournment was made in the hearing of mulled, and
oriented to by the parties, who were not put to one shilling
of expense by it ; and item dear that if the noble lord had
opposed the adjournment, it would not have been from any
. care for their interest, but from regard to his own feelings.
Mr. 8. FITZGERALD believed the house had no desire
to prolong the discumioe, but he wished briefly to state the
Into. The right hon. gentleman might have Mated to the
members of the committee his reams, but all he said to
the noble lord and to him (Mr. S. Fitzgerald) was " It was
imposeible for him to attend to-morrow"—(hear, hear)—
amt he repeated the remark with considerable emphasis,
and the hupression left on his (Mr. Fitzgerald's) mind by
this language 1.0, that there was some urgent public
engagement contorted with the house, or some private busi-
lINS of peculiar importance which justified the right bon.
gentleman en appealing to the parties and to hie colleagues to
ailment to an adjournment. No ono could have anticipated
from the language of the right hen. gentleman that his only
object wit to preside over a public meeting. He was bound
to say that, no matter what might be the nature of the public
meet, he never would have cemented to adjourn the
meeting on such a ground. (Hear, hear.) It was quite trite
the parties assented, but did so, like the noble lord and him-
self, under the impression that the edjuumment was for some
matter peculiarly important to the right hon. gentle-
man. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HORSMAN trusted the house would allow him to say
a few words in anewer to the extraordinary statement—(Oh,
oh, and crier' of " Order")—of the hoe, gentleman. It
was extremely painful to be at issue with the noble lord and
the hon. gentlemen on a question of fact, but he was fortified
by the preeence of the members of the committee, and from
boo own recollection and positive knowledge, he could state
there was not the slightest foundation, in truth or feet, for
the mention that he had over stated it was impoesible fee
hint to attend. (Oh, oh, and cheers.) On the contrary, it
was not until after the adjournment was agreed to that he
came out and saw hie frionda, and told them he could take the
chair. If the adjournment had been in the slightest define
objected to, be would not have done so. He stated three
times to the counnel, that if it was for their convenience an
adjournment might be suggested. They said it would be most
convenient to them, end neither they nor the parties had
the slightest idea that it wit for his convenience rather
than for that of the noble load or any other member of the
committee. He could only account for the statement now
made by supposing that the hon. gentleman and the noble
lord after setting so long on a scrutiny, had carried into
the house a grad deal of the confusion as to facts they
bed dieplayed on the committee. (Cries of " Oh, oh.")
Lord J. MANNERS rose te order. The right hon. gentle-
man had no right to use such language when he had only
Ken to ex lain. (Ilear.)
Mr. HORSMAN made no charge against hie colleagues.
(Hear, hear.) He only said he conceived that the wearmess
produced by PO 1M a sitting had produced confusion in their
minds. They lad made a charge against him for which
there was not the slightest foundation, and every
one in the room knew that. (Hear, hear.) He felt as
mach as any one how unjust it would be to
the parties to protract the inquiry for a single day, or to put
them to a shilling of expense. Ile was most unwilling to
put them to any inconvenience, and he did not propose the
adjournment until counsel had three time* stated it would
be for their convenience.
Sir J. PIAINGTON and Colonel KNox epee together, and
for some time both seemed inclined to persist, when the occu-
pants of the oppositionbenctee called for Colonel Knox.
Sir G. GREY rose to order. He believed the Speaker had
called on the right hon. baronet.
PRINTING OF PAPERS FOR THE HOUSE.

Sir J. rekiirdioifiiml prooeded, but, Gam toe miss
which prevailed, hie observatkae were imperfectly bawd.
He aid be task it far granted the knee lad no dab* to
leakmaw ages dlsoreloa
of sad if be=y be would unbar.
impornally to to. subject of
week be bid rasa satioe.eals wee bakursid that a rule
bed Mk
bybin aide, to tits afoot that papers posnoted to
the bore isnmend of bet in Tors so kart to
alinneeel to minibus, bet toM o
*styad in ea votteceaber,
Irni bs esesmillo to misubme am implioniam. Es was is
ilidries es rty an 10 outran tits urns =tailLet
be dm& rdimewpropossawsubt bonen
Mon Muslin mom want be preentisi winch wild
masks muse dis modem or imsonsis, lor tin awe
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seated would not be sulleiont to direct attention to them.
He begged to ask the Secretary of the Treasury by what
cut hority the new rub' had been node f
Mr. WILSON said the rule had been adopted in conse-
quence of • report of the printing committer, which had re-
ceived the sanction of a select committee, pre,a.led over by
the right hon. gentleman the member for the University of
Cambridge. The object was to aye expense. If, however,
the new rule wee found to work inconveniently, ho would
surgrat that the whole should be referrred again to the Pim-
mint*. (Hear, bear.)
SCREW LINE•OF-BATTLE SHIPS AS TRANS-

Admiral DUNCOMTIE, in calling the attention of the
First Lord of the Admiralty to the policy of reconsidering
the determination, as announced by him, not to employ any
of the screw line of battle ships in conveying a portion of the
troops about to be sent to India, said there were at the pew
sent moment in the home porta ten screw line of battle
ships, besidew a large number of frigates, which had, with
one exception, been employed in tic lam war, and, therefore,
had their machinery in perfect eider and their engines
ou hoard, and could, in a very short time, lie htted
out for the conveyance of troops to ludiu. The Admiralty
deuerved great credit for having tairchaeed the iitmhhy,
and he wished they had five or eia like her, but aa this- Isj
not, the line of battle ships sought to be need in a ca,, of outh
emergency. One of these vessels would talican entire regiment
and land it in much better order than if it had been divided en
board two or three aliips. The mural effect productd by the
appearance of three chips would be very great, and they
would furnish a large tome of /allure and marines in cue
of emergency. lie thought it was it bad thing that the
government were forced to hire ships in all e tee deems
gene y, for the greater the emergency the greater the enema
would be to them. Ile wished to l 0.,w whether the trot
Lord of the Admiralty would reconsider Lie determination,
and employ at least three or four chips as an experiment
Mr. LIENTINCK wished to Like that opportunity. of
calling attention to two answers lately given by the Fula
Lord of the Admiralty out the First Lord or tho Treasury,
fromwhich he inferred it wan the intention of the goverment
to leave the country in a totally defenceless stew leitti by
sea and land. The First Lord of the Admiralty La 1 steed a
few nights ago, they had no ships fit to curry temp., hit he
(Mr. Begitinek) believed that the ships in at bows
were an little adapted for purposes of defence ; awl, in pules
of fact, the country wan now totally destitute of any months*
defence. The First Lord of the Treasury had the night
before given a moot remarkable answer to • was,es
of the right hon. member for Bucks (Mr. Diocieli), to the
effect that it Mao nut intended to call out the militia far the

purrs of training.
Ina SPEAKEIt informed the hon. gentleman that it wu
- • • -• • • - • • -

quite contrary to the rides of the hours that he chill ref.;
to an soccer given in a former debate. (Hear.)
Mr. DENTINCK submitted to the decilies :lie (heir,
but trusted the indulgent* of the house week' hit: to
call attention to this very impotent euldeet. The noble
lord went on to say—(Cries Order," Chair.")
The SPEAKER again informed the hon. gentleman be
wee infringing the role of the house.
Mr. BENT INCE was at • lose how to introduce the nibs
jrct. The noble lord hod made a stsitomont involving quer,
time of very great importance, and he trusted he weill net
be precluded from milling attention to it—
Mr. ROEBUCK—Suppose be said it. (" liter, end
laughter.)
Mr. RENT INCE would euppose or imagine that the
noble lord said that ho did not think it necessary to cell out
the militia, as they were under no apprebencion of any dia.
terbium to the peace of Europe. lie appealol to the house,
what would be the consequence of carrying out such a clue
trine, and in what a position it would place the country. Alf
the available force of the country was about to be sent to the
East, yet at this very moment the snap of a pistol might
place the country in a position of antagonism with cue of ties
most powerful nations of the continent. lle appridel to the
homse whether it was right that the country should he left
without any means of detente? Even in a mercantile point of
view, se a mere question of assurance, he asked the noble
lord whether it was wise to leave this country at the mercy
of the first comer who might think it worth while to attack it.
It was not by such (aloe economy that the noble lord could
expect to retain the pubic support he had acquired.
Mr. HOItSMAN said he was told that an expression fell
from him just now which, if left unexplained, eight be
liable to misconstruction. It seemed to be supyoted that
something he said rather redected on the conduct of the two
hon. members who served with him on the Beth election
committee; but what be meant to say was that, after en-
gaging in • long and tedious inquiry, they might be excused
if their memory was defective on some slight matter of bet.
In saying that, he had not the aruallest idea or Mtnition of
cuting any
_reflection un their conduct.
Mr. DILLWYN, replying to Mr. Newdegate't question,
said it was with regret that he could not give the hon.
gentleman any satisfactory information as to the day when
be should bring on his motion relative to the oath of abjure-
tion. The day must depend upon the course the home
would take upon the bill proposed to be brought in Ly Lord
John Rumen.
Sir C. WOOD deprecated the practise of introducing, cross
questions upon the motion for adjournment. The hon. and
gallant member for Norfolk had raised the important question
of the defence' of the country; but be submitted that We
subject of our national defence.. was far too large and im-
pertain to be discussed incidentally upon a mere motion for
adjournment. (Hear, hear.) With named to the question
of his hon. and gutur friend opposite (Admiral Duneombe),
he could assure him that the cietennusauun of the ALlud•olty
to which he referred wee come to not without due con-
sideration, nor without every point that could be urged either
one way or the other being fully weighed, and therefore he
did not think that any reconsiderabon of the matter would
lead to a different result. He wee, however, obliged to hie
hon. and gallant friend for giving him the opportunity of
stating the grounds upon which the determination wee
coma to. It was perfectly. true that none of the
chips of the line now in comesieriun were cal.
culated to carry troops to China, though they were
perfectly well calculated for tho coast defences of the country.
Moat of the chips were block Maps which served in the
Baltic, or steam ships powerfully armed, capable of luring
about the oust of either our own or any neighbouring
country, but they were not calculated for long voyages. No
better ships could be employed fur the defence of harbours
or rivers, but they could not be made available for transport-
ing troops from one aide of the world to the other. Ne doubt
there were first snd second class steam ship, line-of-battle
Attila, indeed, lying in ordinary that might be euiploved for
the transport of troops, but there were other services besides
the transport service to be provided for. The men in the
navy had not yet been reduced to the number voted by par.
liament, sod ea to-night he should ask the 'house
to vote 2,000 more men for the service, probably
the explanation he was now giving would have
come better when they got into committee. He was going
to ask fur this vote of men to enable him to send a 8 maim
to the Indian (keen—(hear,hear)—and if he (leaned the
vote the very vessels which it wee now suggeeted should be
converted into transport ships would be available fir the
purposes of the propoaed squadron. Contemporaneously,
then, withthe preparation of these ships for proceeding to the
Bay of Bengal, be should be calling upon the merchant
sa-
u to provide the means for conveying troops to India, and
the ventured to believe that this mode of proceeding was
to the one which had been suggested. (Hear,
hem.) ho might be allowed, in reference to this
war irestion, to make a further statement to the house.
Items emillbat a good deal of injury woo done to the publia
stets by sending troops in sailing vessels instead of nears
T. wee perfectly true that in short voyage"
shat vessels were far more rapid in perfuming
the transit then sailing ships; but before any
=cider case could be decided we must look at the par-
circumstances that surrounded it. Lcag voyages at
certain periods of the year were accomplished quicker er as
quick by sailing vessels as by steam yuppie, and the puff-
' cider ease now under consideration was one of them. Loeo-
-1 motive power was dependent upon a supply of coal, shirk
ilmwwashiwitenbewot
hia,sennwiatty:ofrulethatmd Web.:
oadeobtueridtetothiparipdier
cy,,asoftdatcibeimo.aliobred;; nopritroit.
Imaged the voyage to the time occupied by a sailing vessel.
According to a return hr had just obtained hem Iloyd'a, it
that at this time of year the time occupied by s
=g td
vessel in performing the voyage from London to Cal-
cutta wee from ninety to one hundred days, taking the
average of the lost three or four years. On the other 1:;5
in the case of four steam vessels which had been rap
in the execution of a contract for carrying the mails iron this
country to Calcutta, the average was 104 days. (Hew)
Colonel NORTH asked the Under-Secretary for War the
question of which ho had given him notice, viz.: —NV btl
force of artillery is to proceed to India, and whether or not
they ore to take gone, ammunition, and horses, end not, to
state the reasons. What staff of artillery is to command and
direct this force P
Sir J. RAMSDEN avid the force would consist of fit
companies and two troops of horse; they would nottake
either guns or ammunition, because the government ogre in-
formed that the annals in India wen amply supplied with
both.
JEWISH DISABILITY QUESTION.
Lord J. RUSSELL said—Sir, although I ant sensible of
the inconvenience of raising debate on the motion for ad-
journment, I rise, in consequence of a wrong Buffeted by my
own constituents, to ask the decision of the government with
respect to the bill of which I have given notice for tcolliel•
I Sir, my constituents have four times elected Baron Lionel
de Rothschild as one of their represenlatives—(cheers)—
but he has been unable to take his seat in this house owing
to the wording of one of the oaths administered to members.
(Hear.) Successive governments have attempted to Mier*
him and his Jewish brethren from the disabilities to relliA
they aro subjected by peering bills in this house, and trading
them to the other house of parliament. (Hear, hear.) it
haa been supposed that the City of London aro satiellel
three members, and that they do not insist upon baring
fourth to perform their functions in parliament ; but that le
not the fact; the City of Linden is anxious to have its fall
representation, but they have consented for a time to forego
that privilege in order to vindicate another privilege, amid!),
the great privilege claimed by the people of this count/ t°
tend members to this boas without regard to their religions
opinions. (Chests.) Sir, the Howe of Lords has again ree
jetted
mej
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tl billees ) was al
supposed,in
in this house being generally ennill—lcaleet
Weed, between 25 and 30, the House of Lords coin
r . which
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end w
fairlyl" produce
ppoesdi thit
re L
that
(Hear, hbsta°—
that in face of that divided state of opinion they were .1
t
toad to give effeet to the wishes of the Rove of Costutsah

•
but it appesesdey their We Ws*, that this cannot be the
of thek *Oaths to the not sere ; Demme the last
Clanks sing
supported by the whole authority and
weight of thegovernment—had a majority of 140 votes in its
femur open the decisive test of Its prima*. (Chem.) It
is obvious that we may send a bill neat yea to the 110U20 of
Lords, sad the nest year mother ; but if so large a marity
se that In sot to prevail in the House of Lords, there to no
shame that sucks bill will be acoeptedby the Housed Lords.
(Hear. bear.) Let me say, however, that em them bills sp.
rated to take the shape of • change in the law, and
ea the last bill we sent up proposed a change
Is the oaths ts be taken by members of this house, it was un-
dont:deity within the tomtit-ahead functions of the Home of
Loris to refuse to sanction it. (Bear, hear.) But, sir, the
meaticm with occurs to me, and, I think, the house will
agree not unnaturally, is, whether the City of London is to
be *idled with the present state of their representation, or
whether, on the other hand, they see lobe satisfied with their
defeat =this occasion ; or, thirdly, whether there is any other
course that can be adopted in the matter. ((leer, hem )
Now, it he• occurred to me that there is soother course.
(Hear, hem.) The house Is well aware that the Lew now for
two centur'es has declared end acknowledged that person* in
courts of justice ought teke an oath in any term binding on
their conscience. That was an opinion declared to have been
given in 1617, and on the proposal of the late Lord Den-
man • bill was peewit which is now an act of
refitment. namely, the let and 2nd Vic., e. 108, by which
all persons in courts of justice, and on any occasion whatever
are to take an oath in the form binding on their consciences;
and such persons falsely swearing 'hall be liable to all the
pains and penalties of perjury. (Hon, heir.) But although
that set is declaratory of the meanies of the bee, there is an
ambiguity about the words "On any occasion" which are eon-
bdined in it. (Heir, hear.) it is doubtful whether any
authority is rase* than the superior courts of justice,=hat I w* to propose is, that this ambiguity should be
cleared up; that it ahead he &elm* and enacted that is the
High Court of Padiament, as well as elsewhere, end on all
other occasion, the oath to be administered by the
lawfily twosome* shall be taken is the form moat b=
upon the partyM be sworn. (Hem)
Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY rem to order • the noble lord was
speaking to • motion on the parrs far the nght, and was
thereby learly violating thee*, of the house.
Lord J. RUSSELL—If it is not competent fur me to
go on, I shall proper to conclude by moving that this home
do now adjourn, with the view of enabling the government
to state what they will do on this question. (Hear.)
Sir H. WILLOUORBY —With eery regret for thenoble
lord, I moot sulomit my question of order to the *M.
The SPEAK ER—Will the hat. *oust be mod asongh
to state the point of enter again.
Sir H. tVILLOUOIIBY—A motion stands new ton the
vapor foe to-night in the man of the noble lord; it le for
leave to ietredoce a WI is reference to • certain Omuta there
earned. Now it appears to me that the noble lord's bringing
up that question now in an beesederity. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. M ALPOLE— I rather think, AT, your predeomeor la
the chair abeam, laid it down as • rule that although we de-
Vimuch from the ordinary rule in debating the motion
e house at its rising shoedl adjourn till Monday. yet it
was always considered that it was not competent for any
member to take advantage of that motion to ',peak on any
other motion or order on the paper for the day. The no*
lord, hews err, now prove* to make dedlitr motion. Hs
proposes to mum the adjourn:neat of the house at once, as
an amendment to the motion before the chair.
Lord J. RUSSELL—No' I said I might do no.
Mr. WALPOLE—WeII, certainly, upon that motion the
so* lord would sot be in order; and am ho cannot, there-
fore, put himself Is order by moving it, I submit that, in
this debate, we are incurring the risk of falling
Wuzumgest irregularity.
Mr. 111ALIN8 nsearked upon the Intruseticoof continuing
the dimension epos the noble lords bi seeing that many
member, who took ainterest in it had ft the house under
the Impression that the robe:et could not be taken out of its
order.
The SPEAKER—On the question of order, I mod, is
the Brat rare, remind the hours of the extreme inconvenience
of the coarse which has been pursued this evening. (Hear,
hear.) All kinds of Mph* Live leen discussed upon the
mot* that the house at its rising do seljourn until Monday
neat and that course, I seed scarcely remind hen. members,
creates confusion in the diseuseces in this house that is
greatly to be depreosisd. (Hese, hear.) As roger& the
question which has been addressed to the their by the boa.
baronet the Dumber for Evesham (Sir H. Willem •,), I
believe there cannot be any doubt that so soon imperative dug
devolves upon mo than that of obesewiag the order of Ded-
uces as laid before the Wass be the votes for the day. (Hear,
hear.) Certainly, the', my minks is that es the mamboed
has given notice of • motion Sir tilde mad* it fa miter
going beyond the boa*. of reside*, to anticipate that
motion upon the mid* that the hew at its riming do
ad=until Monday me. (Hear.)
J. RUSSELL said, with verged tithe puint of order,
In the come of this very evening boa. mermleve on the op-
position side of the home led masted into questions which
more peopeely hats to the asetedttse of supply. His
right hon. *had theYhet Lord of the Admiralty had mem-
ber* the peethe of abating tech matters on the motion
Sir adjourn**, and immediately afterwards followed it
himself. ("Hem" snit • laugh.) Having been milled by
shot high atztliordy—(aknik)—it was now only fair that
he should be elbowed to slats that ha bad a practical object
in sire, from which he woad net to diverted. (ll*, hear.)
The prettied object ma, semposimt the house cemented to
his bringing in his lath would-the First Lord of the
agree to sot apart • goverment day fur its comatizeimmal
(Hoar, Lear.) It was obvious that unless that wen doss
there was no chance of the going up to the House of
Lords this emotion, and than Mr. Dillwen's motion would be
brought forward, which might imam the home in a serious
collision with the House of Leda. (Hear, hear.) It
was, therefore, well worth their while that they
should have an answer to his question ; and, to
atf ord the noble lord an opportunity of giving it,
he would conclude with moving that this home do now

adjourn."
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE thought the noble lord was in
error when he =dd be had a wrung to complain of on the
part of hi. re nstitumits There was nothing on the journal
(litho how°, there was no record to show that • fourth
amber wes returned for the City of London, because Baron
Rothschild hal not attempted during either this or the Let
perlianuent to take Wilmot. Mow then could it be said that one
of the members for the City of London was unable to take
hie seat? They had no right to assume what the house would
do until he had suede the attempt. It wee quite possible that
the house would decide differently to the former how, and
he therefore thought the member 'timid come to the table
before any further Map wee taken. Let Baron Rothschild
cense to the table and take the oaths in the manner
meet binding on his eonsieure, omitting the words, " On
the true fleitb of a Chrielan," end then it would be compe-
tent for any bon. gentlemen to more a resolution to the effect,
that having taken the oaths in the form meet binding on hie
COlLVinlee, he should be immediately eligible to take his seat.
(Heir. le sr.) He voted for such •ma 'WU= in a former
pm Liam tit, and he wee quite ready to support it now.
Lord PALMEIHITON—With regard to the question of
my noble friend, all I can may is, that of course I pre-
Berne tht h,tine would, es matter of courtesy, whatever the
o itself
zoiniwomneyoLlitzen
friend leave
to
y ion.
hithieoreelott
to giving him • day afterwards, be must madder thart.t7e
are many very important matters Mill under diammeion in the
house; that oar days are, 11:1 I may my, numbered ; end that
therefore it it impossible for me, until the public Weiner
shall Amery in a more decided manlier, to state that we can
giro to any hon. member • day for any bill which he may
tli.ok at to bung in. I fear that answer will not be satisfac-
tory to my noble friend, bet it is all that at present I can in
duty say.
TUE ISTHMUS OF SUEZ..

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Mr. GRIF Fill!, purulent to notice. then rose to call the
attention of the hone to the one...tea whether, in their deli-
lranto opinion, it be conducive to the honour or the interests
of thin country that wo should manifest and avow the exis-
tence of a jealous hostility on our part to the project of •
ship canal thrones the Isthmus of Sure ; or whether on the
contrary, it world not be more in accordance with the dm-
Tyler for disinterroted impartiality which we seek to main-
tain, if we were to leave that init, without to
be dealt with by the natural physical and
t alike which rarroon4 its executice?
Lord PALMERSTON then proceeded to shah fa hewer
to Mr. Griffith, that the propeeed project of • 'hip maid
thrangh the Isthmus of Suez war, in his opinion, bleall•
siment with the policy and intense of this counay—(besr,
late) —in a political point of view, sepicially with tepid to
our indien poem seions. If there wen • great Mit cowl
domicil the Stee isthmus, other maritime powers with
whout es might cone into collision would have an nearness
start before England. (Hear, hear.) Besides, the project
wan one tending to the eeparetket of Turkey and igypt—•
policy which the French 'overhang had loyally dhovowed
at the Peris mufreenc. t. With regard to the In
an secineering point of view, =tog an la het
when money and shoos wars at head, of
the nutter as • commercial speoalation, he timid ha
hers correct when he characterised it en • hear anseks
ea one of those babble rompanies which hew Newsy be.
the poekets of English alphabets and gave the. let keg In
return.
Mr. R. STEPHENSON mid that, with most to ongi-
seeing ditficaltice he might my that he had beim sum us
whole ground, and had farmed an opinion on the solfou.
The toot of Why taken at the time of the French involon
of Egypt, in INN, stated that there watt a diaries botwom
the. I-eel of the Red Sea and the lleditereassea ef Xt tat.
Limon Bey het, there/ern waggemed that the she of
Ptolemy should be cleared oat, that by our of
it an opening between the two seas Shield ha
mode. Alma this veil it was eakuldid Ili
the tame, of level would ems • Ate
rumba at the eels of foot ohm so boar, • rob meat
to keep the meal wowed, hot sot to drag Go to pee mo the
transit of ateancvemale both sod *MIL St said bin
the maitre helloing that the alt et Ina azithed. no
French engineers, however, with wham be we imeselen
made free obeervations Impel the diffemnce of the levels,
they diametral that no d,florenes is reality eziseed, sod Shot
the woli.l had for fifty years laboured wader •
sm. When the true Mete of the as we dawn, pea
them ma whom he acted mow to the severe—a INm
fining' in whirl' be massed—thet the protest gm not •
small the. (fhm. bear.) ethos that time ha had head
ewe the isthmus, and seasidered the pnakshary
of mho( a earl, ad he hid same le the
semiedea that weal • plea ents—die huh net my
• • hoard on sot hishis, bad at Yost one although sm.
=oporoloso Welt 0141110311141 its di , eon on
we is • prectioal point of view. (Cheers.)
PRESENT STATE OF INDIA.
Xt. DIVIABLI not Mots' noittlootoi to lb AO Of