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elected. He hoped, therefore, that his hog. friend would
not press tbe sse resoling. (Hear, bear.)
Kr. L. KING replied. He thought they had now plenty
of time, whereas he doubted whether that would iv the
osea
next year. (Hew, h:i.sdril_
The house then dr
For the second reading
Against it
The announcement of the numbers was received with great
cheering.
ELECTION EXPENSES BILL.
Lord R. GROSVENOR said he regretted that owing to
the probable short duration of the assidon, individual moo-
ben had difficulty in carrying any measure through the
house He was one who had acquiesced in the propriety of
not darling with the question of pathementary reform in the
present session. He would not put the house to the trouble
of dividing on this question. The principle of the bill had
already bass aMrmed on division by a majority of nearly
three to one. He should now withdraw the bill, but would
purses the question year by year until the matter we. placed
on a eatistactory footing. He now moved that the order
for the second reading of the bill should be discharge:l.
Mr. DU CANE said he had several objections to the bill,
and had the second reading been premed be should have
divided the house against it. He ciaterteieed SeTiOGII objec-
tions to the provisions of the bill, which he would rtate.
(Cris of " Oh," and " It is withdrawn.")
The order was then disc
REGISTRATION VOTERS BILL.
Dlr. T. BUNCOMBE said he should have been glad to
sae this bill in oparedes before the not registration but
after the lets division be feared he mut defer it tenet
session. He hoped the noble lord (Palmerston) wo give
them a full and ellkient measure of reform next erasion.
The order we then discharged.
The remaining orders of the day were postponed.
VACCINATION.
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE obtained leave to bring in a bill to
repeal the Compulsory Vaccination Act of 1853.
The house adjourned at half-past 6 o'clock.

UNITINSITY OF LONDON.

A special
_moral meeting of the proprietors of
University Callow UM held yesterday afternoon, at the
College, hi Grareemtmet, for the purpose of considering
what steps ought to be taken with reference to certain appre-
hended alterations in the constitution of the University of
London, intended to diepease with the necessity of candi-
dates for degrees in arts and laws being educated in any col-
lege affiliated to the University.
'The chair was taken by the president of the college, Lord
ROVOHAII.
Among those present were Earl Forteseue, vice-president;
Me, John Taylor, treestuer; Mr. Grote, Mr. Hutton, Mr. R.
merat,-istu, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Wood, Dr. Mackenzie, Mr.
onmem id, Mr. Fowler, Mr. Enfield, the.
After 5. few introductory remarks from the chairman,
Me. 14. MANTINEAV moved the following resolution :
" That this meeting, regarding with groat satisfaction the
intention of the government to grant to the University of
Leaden a Draw charter which will incorporate the graduates,
but anderstaneing that the emote propose that collegiate
education shall no longer be necessary for candidates for
degrees in arts ~d laws, deeircs to express its dimmers!
of the proposed dungy, as one likely to be injurious to the
cause of regular en d systematic education, and as not only
lowering the mine, but altering the very meaning, of an
English univenity =Tree. '
Mr. .1 mint. weeded the resolution.
Mr. Oilir& mid, SS a LUCUrbil/ of the commit of that college,
and as a member of the senate of the Cnivereity, he felt
deep interest in both, and he Mated that that
interest would never be diminished. Mr. Mortice= in-
sinuated that the senate had been lying in visit foe this op-
postunity of making a change in the constitution of the Uzi-
varsity. Why it was well known that a large majority of the
senate had been radically °limed to the new °barter, and if
they hod had their way the quostios would not now hem to
be diecuand. (Hear, hear.) The only part of the reerastion
in which he could concur was that which expressed osofoirc-
tics at "the intention of the government to grant to the
University of London a new charter which will incorposate
the graduates." He had always thought the claims of lhe
graduates to incorporation reasonable and legitimate,
and he wished they had been conceded earlier, and with leas
opposition. (Hear, hear.) As regarded the bargain which
had been mentioned he must cheerye that the pledge of
1515 was connected with the charter of that year, ad now
that there was to be a new charter the government wen jar
tided in looking to the condition and exigences of society in
1867. Similar arguments to those which bad been wed
were formerly urged on behalf of the Universities of Oxford
and Cambridge against the admission of dissenters. The
main feature of a degree wee the scholastic profi-
ciency which it authenticated. The direct function
of the University was to certify such proficiency
and whether education should be obtained in a private
school, under a private tutor, or in a college, it was not for
a national institution like that to determine. He bad no
wish to depreciate the advantages of colleges, but he con-
tended that equally good instruction might be obtained from
other sources. lie agreed with the graduates as to the im-
portance of continuous study; but he dissented from their
view that such study could not be pursued onteide the walla
of a college. Since the foundation of the Unice:atty. of
London, 480 students had matriculated with honour,
sad of those 144 came from other sources than the affilialedi
oboe= That was • complete refutation of the charge of
ty made against ell teachers who were unmans/ 41g
with colleges. In conclusion, he trusted that the c:=
would net oak for privileges which, in his opinion, It
not to desire.
replylp to a question from the CHAIRMAN,
Mr. Otters said the total number of affiliated inetitutione

was 38.
The CHAIRMAN—IIIdCINNIUd that London Univer-
sity does not profess to notch, but is a mere graduating
machine.
Mr. Gaors—Yee, my lord.
Dr. PORTER felt bound to acknowledge that Mr. Grote had
made untiring efforts in the college to promote the interest.
and wishes of tho graduates. (lieu', bear.) The senate ea
a body had, however, made no concessions which were not
extorted from it, and when it bad made any it pursued •
course which tended to deprive them of all value. (Hear,
Lear.) Ho agreed with Mr. Grote as to the impropriety of
attempting to continue an exclusive system; and the epeeist
ground on which he objected to the 36th clause of the charter
was, that they knew nothing whatever as to the intentions of
the senate in reference to the regulations to be framed.
Dr. WILLIAMAON thought there was a little irritation ea
the part of the graduates against the senate, which it was
desirable should emote. (Hear, hear.) The voice which the
graduates would have in the convocation would, in his opi-
nion, prevent any abuse.
Mr. GOLIAXID could not understand a proposal to grant
academical degrees without any test of academical training.
In his opinion each • state of things would introduce great
confusion of ideas. The University of Oxford would avoid
that difficulty by the nee of the term " associate."
Mr. ROBINSON observed that if the proposed change were
carried out, London University, instead of resembling other
universities, would Leconte a refuge for the destitute
Mr. SHAEN supported the resolution.
The CHAIRMAN suggeeted that, with .view to coming to •
decision on the question, Mr. Grote should move the follow-
ing amendment .—" That this meeting regards with great
satisfaction the intention of the government to grant to the
University of London a new charter, which will incorporate
Illemduates," omitting all the words which followed tn the
resolution.
-1.73 ROTE raid be would adopt his lordship's suggestion,
and leave those wade as en amendment.

Dr. WILLIAMSON seconded the amendment.
Lord Droned= then retired, and was succeeded in tits
chair by Mr. Htrrrog. In leaving the noble turd was
loudly cheered.
Mr. Q sty supported the original resolution, and observed
that he considered the examination mania of the present day
• delusion.
On the question being put, only two hands were held up
for the amendment, and the original resolution was adopted.
On the motion of Mr. J. TAYLOR, seconded by Mr. W.
Fowtsii, it was resolved "That University College having
been pointed out in 1835, by the address of the House of
Commons to the Crown, aa the future University of London,
and having cheerfully waived its claims to that high dignity
in order to promote the public welfare, he. • peculiar right to
object to a change which will destroy the essential character
of that university constitution 9n thu faith of which it con-
sented to surrender its position.'
On the motion of Mr. Ostr.a. seconded by Mr. JAS. YATES,
it wee further resolved "That the council of University Col-
lege be requested to communicate with the senate of the
University of London, and with the Home-office, and to take
such steps as will, in their opinion, give the greatest weight
to the views of the meeting, ',expressed in the above resolu-
tions."
The meeting then regarded.