The Express.
London, England, 1857-07-08 00:00:00

LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 8, 1857.

IMPERIAL P.

HOUSE OP LORDS.—TozsDAY, Amy 7.
The LORD Cnanctu.on ton/ hie inat en the wooinek at
i o'clock.

THB IRISH FEHR&

Lord REDREW/1i 11;74141;ridll ow the subject of
the oaths taken by lbw Ida puses, mad it was read a int
dean

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HOUSE OF COMMONS.-TCENDAT, JULY 7.
(Continued trona yesterday's I:rpm's.)
Major Gotwort, the new member for Banffshire, took the
oaths end his seat.
The home then, at 4 o'clock, impended in sitting.
The hones resumed et 6 o'clock.
THE ORDNANCE AUTRY. •
lard EWEO mind even vine siOrelmsee now intended
to waamd with the army at towns in Oroot Britain end

Mr. WILSON mid that when it was the practice to survey
the teenttes on the 6-lach seals, the survey of the towns
ern made ea the sent of 6 het to the mile. When the sur-
vey of the meal &Meat woe estended to the male of 26
inebn the wing et the tents vets reined to the seek of 10
het is the utile. It led gone ea to the present time, and
was sew preen ing ea thud den It wee quite obvious that
the surveys is mad be 'melded me that orals. As
to them net yw begs; 1110 sale is he adopted would depend
en whet apt he reseired en by that hour. No alteration
had been made la cemesqemece of the resolution come to the
other night with roped to the Scotch surrey.
THE ROYAL ACADEMY.
Mr. CONING HAM asked whether it was the intention of
the government to remove the Royel Academy from that
retion which it new occupied of the National Gallery, in
Irt.TlMo7l.eati the whole of this matter wee at pre-
sent undecided, because the report of the fOntliP4olll ap-
pointed to inquire into the site of the National Gallery had
not yet he. presented. He wee not aware that any inten-
tion M present existed of removing the Royal Academy; cer-
tainly no such decision had been arrived at.
ISTHMUS OF SUEZ CANAL.
Mr. M. BERKELEY put the following question to the
Phan Led of Ili* Treasury .—" Maim bee Majesty's po-
mmel* mid aili Its influence with Me highness the Sultan
is sipped On eggileaties 'bin had been made by the
Visors, et pit ler the madis et the Sublime Porte to
the east. et • eblp end mom the Milieux of Suez,
for wide\ • esemelea lad boa gmettei by the Viceroy of
Egypt be ilasefrearlliadleerlde Zwesere, and which had re-
ceived the eggeehdhsef die peledgel cedes, ports, and cam-
menial teem is the DOW Kingdom ; ea; if soy oldestlea
be menden by In Mejeety's goverment to the mit&
taking, to stele lbe onside of such thnellea."
Vimotint PALM 11 sad lase the otwormonn cer-
Way could not underlie le me ibis limn •116 the
Sin to inane Wm le Owe yerwirdo• tor the enslowetlou
@tab wad, Imeary leer Int 15 years the peseeneut
bed seed AA, Year ley •••Id being to bur Is prevent
the Sins belag amid bk. atezatka. (Hear, bow.) He
bine. Ili it wee • rime which, is point of cutoevetriel
cemeem *plate lensed to role among the many bubble
whams alibi how the. to time hri been palmed off epos
(Mlle peoleas. (A bush.) His ',Won on leaded upon
nay seed bilemetioe; and he binned that ii• enema
wee set edit set restionn but plinioalty Impeadlerhi;
amp al as eepews •Ilsb wad/ is at Pak" lout ear
'elm art in• Hely le le amber Me le. (Ilew,lrea)
U re boa gentleses bed soy coustitunts she bed em-
a• lm. wantey e ilk .tom Moly to do se,be began
that M bid esesedves very grieneely derehed
in the 001.0, Ronan that wee not the Irma rpm
whin:min:tent bed opposed a scheme; fur tang hid
that isellvidosis timid be loft to take wee el Ink
owe tend; ad N Soft embarked in en limemed miler-
=they pall_the perky of it. That eases was
upon neMy le the Interests of this oceistry, and
1 upon opposition to the desidep policy of England to regard
to the connexion of Egypt nth Turkey—a policy which had
hem esewerated by the he. war with RUllaill, and by the
lemer of Fins. The Sleds political tendency of the schema
web esekentore atria =petition of Egypt Sem Turkey.
1$ IMO Sanded *be ups ode mob with regard to
' erbt mom Is sr babe which ho need only
'Wry 711 boom wool be obvious to any-
body Mr Minim is Ile Ha add only
esede eel N. le Amid have
=I 01 lerabgep Ile of irgbAt
avis• Is lei by fa propus he
allialisig le did semseig bum Is the
searawtektwebeshl sensed IF eheptelag Iteilli mart to
so averse le Nepali Interests. The project
17ei be beached sow dims we ago, e a deal to the
✓heeme of a railway bin Aborbe by we of Cairo to
Ogee, which wee for IMO peel_. Dut M. Leserps con-
tained him endemism; gni ems of the lets which the
isejlebra bad is vide veal bpretty w I accomplished
"Mew Ile underbid!. ewe eabi Into execution or not.
1 He tame
to advise the how gentlemen
it Vaeked the goodies te have nothing to do with the
scheme. (Heir, hear.)
TOLL-BARS TN THE METROPOLIS.
Lord R. OROSVENOR arcked whether the Tramming
=rat to take stela towards tho appointment .of comb.
Moms to *lain into the best method of removing the tam
bus new elleeee fa the metropolis, pursuing the plan width ,
wee eloped le egad to those in the metropolis at Imbed
and is "Weft I_
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Viewed PAIAMnON mid the ..,. ad was on vitae
It woe yeey lookulb to attain. It would Main the ash
ladies KIM peewwwwa bet he wes aot&rperei_lMe
hi lama maid it well la sawisgelebad.
✓omit lire rue bus Is mareabidea with ILTh.ruedeee
tithe se to see whet toomeuree could be
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TIN LORD LIRUTENANCT OF IRELAND.
Mr. ROEBUCK moved a resebstirn lesaseindes the
*aka Hot the site of lard Lieetweeet of Inlaid ought
te be aldishal Atirttimig to peuvisme wader of a idler
R'
bumph& hewed Mr. Items mil lan Jon I
... Roma yam rep, be siterlel Ad the dale el Ire-
bed bed • eel deep Imbi er bervel the
bed elm The imilses if ea bib Viewey hod
imma seise, Wilk penal ilieediby is Ire-

lead, end the erre et rapid ceemeeletthas 'which moo
every per mini pore
et the avalleble between the too
ethablee, the thleberese lest whew et Pp-
nth wreselpey peered la Dells Othis aid
ems away rlthedsee then. Yethewthei ad the des-
be-
moltherie el this telealthe
e eat
teples ea theelthe swim Ye the
Peter melte el paled. emberrer-
wesse. Oak be a albeitbutted the leahlthere to
alherpte atheist! frith idiot ell red sollatethe had

itaL.—wc-i- .1. emend the lode% sewed
garb= Ile the Wei laulthty nt
h.
I==Y. tat rind te diem sm Sot Mof
nil seer alielthde wee peovided. This, be
wiewstid, Kv.llwellesk bed deoliwad te ellesept. The Was.
hoe all teleasit the dilledka between the throe ream
of the Ileitedistimprollamp balk adrively.
tt ow si
re
Tied,' was eed, it would, be
=sepai sheikh the albs of 10011-loolomd.
the been le weepwise the empishowes ef the
risks by penis hi the maim sthisa, sitspis Mem
8041 ebleg- dbei thaithibest the whole Sod of the British
Isloo,ond everibute eqpwiethi the eleekwel franchise upon
Itow =Meth mad
Mr. GROGAN k estalgesettora
14.111•11, 111111•9" as he tie adthese of •
• la Dahlia parsated ore eswitheitatiwg thereces to
the lethesay semi& ell se straggig developed
maws the weshider elm= ado Mit ethreeoliy.
Mr. IWITTIMIDE eetd thee if the eseteetka merely
watt f. eithu this pethelpie that beimd emelt to be
Frset the priorities se isghted, he load vote
e be fit er
racy =jse eeldast tirirevtheumtog
weep away this else withewi coorlarlog bow the duties
were to be diseberged. Time were et pest het, acts of
white Impend &Ws of writhe kinds ow the
sweets too
awl they maid art abash ea ethos which
bad nista& for els an tatios whilst wasefel mad saziowe

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ulin. SOMERVILLE swelled themotion. Mathis,
ea be believed, had come ides the fire government af
sway pert o the United Links &WI be carried o from
• common centre. Trenton IL mammy memo of adoalnie-
*mire action, be signed that by the percent division of
authority tin goverment of Irebend we placed upon a fame
, book.

Mr. VANCE contended Chet the peeped to abolish the
Irish Viceroyalty wee a weer Wales of blab eghta than
eamesseenee ski* had bees Menem" slave the set of
it medid, the chimp would eon** a Wises fed
Jungle lalleunitios smog the peopk of bobad.
Mr. BAGWELL TICCONNIMiIIi Mr. Haellinelk es papaw
his nested= midi the alseptien of the tad Varisarter
was deuradsd hy_the semmendly.
Mr. MAGUIRE deseethed the lomat at MAIM GAM es
a ahem trimly nil pitied weary, Air ales-
deride( wpm end essmalent fee the anted rswscn-
newt, Mt wholly mikes far any reel marries sitbe of
mesedve mamiablialles ow social improvement. He was,
asmethelem swab to mee for the resolution, because no
enletitute wonsaggeeted for the system it proposed to
ritr.lieoft.SMAN replied to certain rereszks of Mr. White-
d&
upon the sppdatmente made by Lord Cerliele, who, he
accreted, bed adopted a strict role postponing political influ-
ence to competency and nitwit. With reference to the ques-
tion before the home, mason the moral as well
its materiel improvement of lead, he remarked
that else won but just beginning to And her feet,
sad required to be watched as a convalescent, and
the question wee whether the abolition of the odke
of lord-lieutenant would conduce to her wall-being.
He had convened with all maks and chums in Ire-
land regarding its good government and future, end he had
found their opinion favourable to the abolition of the office.
At the =Ms time, they would sot have voted for this mo-
tion for the tame reams that infinenced hit& It wee one

thing to condemn and mother to reconstruct, and, unless the
11(01110111101g saw what am to be marinated for the Sad-
Ihrotenant, they could not adopt the natation. He thought
Wm was cee of the questions of reform which should be left
to the cessidation of the rgeoverneasut.
Mr. P. O'BRIEN oounidnad that the viceroyalty of Ire-
lend existed by virtue of • contract with the people, and he
saw no man why that contract should be violated. (Hear.)
Besides, it was a matter In which the feeling. of the Itiott
,1771 ought to be consulted. They heard • greet deal of Irish
4e, but if they removed the Irish Wainer altogether to
London they would make that a regular trade which was
now only an ocesaieual oceepatka. To talk of the Irlah
court as a chant court, wee most afar, and, kart of al ad
he expected to bear it se afgeasUmed by the democratic maa-
ber for
Mr. llDMarisnlictee warm leelaseny te the present lord-
lieutenant's mode of lambda/beg the government. There
was no town in Ireland, of which the progress wee more rapid
than that with which he had the howler to be connected, and
having had to communicate fregnently with his excellency on
its lag matters, he baa always found him mon •2131011 M to
presage nay object connected with the welfare of the
esMALMERSTON— Sir, there Is no denying the im-
Crielf the queettoo which the hon. and learned member
leilleM has brought under the coneideration of the
=ballat it is one upon which gentlemen who entertained
might vote with the hon. and learned
nambwr Zihaa moved the previous question. The hon.
and Isnsd member who haa made the original motion bee
*me awn In • toll house en abstract resolution which,
iyadlegned, ought to be foltowed up by some practical measure
kir aiming that resolution into effect. But the hoe. and
Wined member loaves to others the task of completing the
week he has began
sea as to how the government of Ire is to be carried
• twotererds the end of a seam, propose. a resolution,
the of which would be to condemn the existing state of
things, to render difficult the conduct of government for a
long space of time, while he abotaine from even hinting
at what armament be wi.bes to aro substituted.
That is a vveerryy inconvenient method of dealing with on im-
portant question. (Hear, beer.) It I. all very well for gen-
tlemen to my that they propose an abstract resolution, and
leave the government' if the house Amid affirm it, to find
the mean of retrying it into effect. (liar, bear.) But that
is not the way in which grave question,' should be dealt with
by parliament. (Hear, hear.) If the hen. and learned gen-
tlemen uo eetkilei in his own mini that the Lord-Lieute-
nancy of Ireland ought to team, be is bound, when he pre-
pare a resolution foe that purpose, to euggest for the eon-
.iaseel ion of the house, and point out to the government,
abet erningement he thinks beat calculated to supply
that which he Forma to abolish. (Hear, hear.) Now, as
to the gelation heel?, I am bound to my that it is one
whichapposes to me to be Demanded with difficulties. It
is quite true that in the year IMO_ the government of that
day did not only propene the abolition of the office of Dad-
Lieutenant of Ireland, but at the tame time propounded a plan
be which the affairs of Ireland wets to be carried on, upon
the cereation of that Ohm. (Hoar, hear.) The hon. and
learned gentleman ha mentioned the mimeo of the members of
that government who voted for that proposition, and of those I
also who, if they did not virtually vote for meat be suppmed
to have concurred in ft. lie mentioned mine amongst the
rest, and nu doubt I did concur with my nineteen' on
that oecasion, in supporting the mature they brought
taward. But diffleulties area, in navel to the substitute
whii was mongol for the Lord Lieutenancy by that
;arriu4nent, of curb a =tutees effectually to prevent the
out of the plan. That being no, I for one am not
at the meant moment to propose to parliament an
'magmata that I an hope will be satisfactory ea • substi-
tute for the Lord-Lieutenancy. (Hear, bear.) la the abstract,
Woking at the anent resolution, it, is no doubt difficult to
argue that • separate establishment like the Loyd-Lieutenancy
was neceinary fur the conduct of the affair'. of Ireland, or
I that ffi the maintenance of the oce erasineential to the welfare
ande prosperity of that country or to It. goodb iAt
eimerrent.
are any mesons w y t
that there 'bald be some local authority in Dublin with
t whom the people of Ireland may communicate on important
matters connected with the administration of the affairs of

Ireird—es authority to whoa they oUiatTete---ibeil;7a;
the womb and widely the helm and ineenoninoto of the
reassat, and by rood eanouniestion IMO whom many
local goothos nay ha sallisd which it would be difficult to
armee y metemporienee, and which it would be equally
&Monk to two* people to twee over to Louden to arrange
sued satlies The therefore, is far from being one of
Hot esker ahn irlly w ich the hoe. and hood gentle.
son Meer wines be imagines that a deg% vote of this
hie revolution, will at awe eat sheet all the
difficulties of ease. (Hear.) It is asedlen far me
to say that her Majesty's government have tot brought
their minds to consider any arrangement width they think
would be satisfactory in the way of a eutetbnie for that
which new data, and to ask them at this pedal of the ne-
shn es envy set eay seek plan as the restiellan indicates,
is serequeedy elides them to do what it is hayerible to
perine. (fi, ham) I un sure the hon. acid hosed
seedwasn seek en sollection, feel that it would not be con-
rodent bibs pal* service that at this period et the onion
the banes ibieM by its vote condemn an inatination that has
existed hat and lancing it ao tonsured end seedessied by
parilanseet without any definite idea being wergaded by the
mover of the teselteise as to how the trishaw at that
institution Ad be supplied. Hader thaw abeam-
ahem I shall mid* vote fce the preview emotion,
sa smoni by the ha. and leaned wash, fhr Temeath.
Awn that even theme who wee la the dated with
the preesellien the the riot of the lardaenenewi might be
iNgseeed willa=rith than who see et
at
that
it weld hi be —ew whit reprisiff mem in
that awika..erideit in sledd imis. thatp dead& awe can
be nn denbil, via, tot lit le irapelhat to die' get width
at the peneent seentani is saimplaiisable reasinlisa. (Mar,
hear.) Tha ha end heard semn says Uri *see who
vets dm the peeling gnedla will beat preseneced an
me in law of ide ths : I lag haw is Mae with
Lint:taut pit The sift of Iha pelivinee lnsetlas ke—
thatfha wheirer mete those wb vela hob am Ia as, the
teen is to dodoes that his net • einellen epos wide
I espiiest at the puma heansi is swer to a istaine. In
Thies far the paposidest d has. and lona area