The Express.
London, England, 1861-02-12 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVFNING, FEBRUARY 12, 1861.

to give, an be said, an impetus to the sal& The auctioneer
thought he mustave meant 104.

erese-examined—tiZl statedthat witness had observed a
great change in his in.inner and intellect ;ant that he
seemed to have entirely lost his memory. Wu referring
only to the natural rmitics of age, and not to any
delusion.

Sro Stephen Glyn saw the teetstor et the Oxford election
is MO, MVO. He seemed very *axiom for Mr. Gladstone's
success. Be afterwards wrote to witness that his friends
desired Lion not to undertake the journey, and that it would
have dune him far 'man harm to have him kept in suspense.
A:ways thought him perfectly competent to transact his
business.

Cross.esarnined—Had known him tea years. Never con-
versed with him on the subject of his fanning at St. Hilary.
The Hon. Octavian Morgan, M.P. fur Monmouthshire,
had known the testator a great mangy yearn. Could not,
in fast, remember the time when he did not know him. (A
laugh.) Received a letter from him in January, 1554.1. Be-
lieved it must have been a letter of congratulation on the
return of witness's nephew fur Brecknockshire. At wit-
nree's election the testator appeared on the hustings. At
the close of 18.7.1 witness was desirous of forming an Anti-
gasman Society for the Forest of Dean, and received a
donation of 51. from the testator. The society was not,
however, established, and the money was therefore, re-
turned. To the last, witness considered him perfectly
capable of managing his own again.
t nab-examined—Did nut meet him at all during the year
185.9, except at the Dlonnemtlishire election, and had not
seen him sinoe. Did not think him them so strong as he had
bees a few yawn before, but there was no other change in

The evidence of the Hon. and Rev. Dr. Howard, Dean of
Lichfield, which had been taken by a commission, was next
read. Had met the testator at Lord Cawdoes. Observed
nothing peculiar in his cooversation, except that he spoke
rapidly and low and had a difficulty in remembering
names and places. Subsequently visited bun at Coethig-
-lan, and afterwards corresponded with him on the subject
of the iestoratine of witness's cathedral. On the 18th of
October, 1850, he wrote from Tenby promising a dons,
tion of 5001. On the 27th be wrote from Coedriglan en-
closing a cheque for the money, and remarking that his
memory had vary much failed of tote, but that when he
recollected that he was born on the sth of October, 1788,
he mast not be surprised at it. Never observed any inco-
herency in his communications.
Mr. Beach, 11. Y. for North Hants, said that the deceased
visited him at Keevil, Wiltshire, in 1850. Conversed with
him a great deal. Having mentioned to him that witness
had a collection of ancient coins, the testator said that be
had several which bad been dug up in the progress of some
railway works, adding, after some ccusideration, that it was
near Blisworth. He offered to seal witness one, and after-
' wards did so. Talked politics with him and other topies of
the day, sad particularly about the Oxford election, with
reprd to which he differed a little from witness.
On the 12th of December, 1859, he wrote to wit-
ness congratulating him on the birth of a son,
who, he hoped, would livo and be the forerunner of many
of the honoured house of Beach. He said he was " very
so-so," hut begged witness to remember that he was born
on the sth of October, 1788. Never saw the slightest evi-
dence of incompetency in him, but he was weaker in body
than formerly, and his memory had 'lightly failed ; bat
then his memory had previously been exceedingly
and he tried to recollect things that few other people would
have sumeeded in doing. His memory failed in such point'
ss clerical appointments twenty yews ago. He could
remember which party was in power, sad he coosidered both
parties alike. (A laugh.)
Mr. James Bird had been in practice in London as a
surgeon since 1833, and was previously in practice at Cardiff.
The testator used often to call on witness. Saw him in
May, 1859. He came to witness in a street cab on Sunday,
the eth of that month, and told witness that he had acci-
dentally fallen out of bed at his hotel, and that his wife
wishing him to have medial advice, Dr. James Bird, of
Hyde-park-square, had been fetched, in consequence of a
wraeg address given by a neighbouring chemist. The mo-
ment he heard Dr. Bird's voice be knew it was not his old
friend, and would neither rouse up to_ spode to him nor
take his prescription. When Dr. Bird had gone be came
off to witness. There was nothing the matter with him
except a little dyspepsia and the growing infirmities, of age.
He was a man with strong prejudices, and might perhaps
be called a crotchety num, though hardly by those who
knew him well.

Crces•examined—Never considered Mr. Traherae's in,.
mory to be uniformly good. He would occasionally forget
manses during the whole time witness had known him.
Observed no change in that respect in 1859. The testator
told witoess that be pretended to be asleep when he found
that Dr. Bird was not the person he expected, and witness
inferred that nothing had pared between them.
The Bishop of St. David's bad known the deceased
sines 1848. Met him io 1859 at a dinner party in London.
Mrs. Traherne was not with him. Did not converse much
with him—in fact the testator took very little part in
the conversation. In the following October he wrote
to witness offering to pay him a visit, and on the
19th he came with Mrs. Trsherne. They remained
from Wednesday till Saturday. Conversed with him
snood deal during his stay. Did not notice any change in
him except that ocessiosally be loot the name of a person
or a place about whom or which he was conversing. Never
observed any want of sequence in his remarks. Witness's
difficulty wan in following his words, never his ideas.
Nothing whatever occurred during Lis visit to suggest to
witness any doubt as to his perfect capacity to manage his
affair'.

Cross-examined—The conversatien was entirely on general
topics, and did not relate to family matters, or anything
that could arouse aay irritability in the testator.

Mr. C. It. M. Talbot, M.P. for Glamorposhire, lord-
lieutenant of that county, brother of Mn. Traherne, and
one of the plaintiffs, bad known the testator 45 years.
Visited him in 1850, and sat with hire on the bench at
the petty session,. la July, 1859, be asked witness to
berme a trustee with mord to the next preeentatioa to
the living of lit. Gimp's, at St. HibuT. It was by letter,
but witness never kept bitters. Iteralved 10,000 every
year and always buret them immediately, unless it wan
absolute] weemeary to keep a osaminnication. The testator
wrote to witness ea the subject of his will. He
said that he hoped the disposition of lum property would
be satisfactory to witness, but be did not say what it was.
Had sever seen him otherwhe than as most competent to
=amp his affairs.

Crass-examined—Had had a communication with Mr.
Dillwyn Llewellen at Tenby, in consequence of which wit-
nor immediately wrote to Mrs. George Traherne • but
witness had no personal communication with Mn.Traieree
or the testator oo the subject. Knew the Austrian consul
at Cardiff. Could not say whether Mr. Trailers, bad any
acquaintance with that gentleman. Could not say whether
in August, 1869, the testator gave hie shooting to theft
gentleman. Should say he had very little shooting to give.
He had land, but be had no game. (A laugh.) In May,
1869, he had the Austrian flag flying on his dain. (A
letter was hire read from Mr. Traherne on this subject He
said:—" My attachment to the Austrian flag is of long
standing, for lam in my 71st year, • and I wish to
410 the little in my power to effect the preservation of order
in Europe.")
By the Judge—Did not recollect seeing the tricolour fly-
iog in Cardiff.
Mr. Fothergill, a gentleman in Glamorganshire, rid the
deceased came over to his house with young Mr. Sanderson
about four weeks previous to his death. Saw him also on
the Friday before he died. He was then accompanied by
the Rev. Mr. Nicholls. On each occasion he was with wie-
ner nearly an hour. It never occurred to wiener to doubt
his perfect capacity on either occasion.
Cier-examined—Lived five or six miles from Coedriglan.
The testator came on both occasions merely to pay a neigh-
bourly call. On the last he brought an invitation from
Yn Traberne for witness and his sisters to speed the fol-
lowing Tuesday at Coedriglan. His first visit was to in-
troduce his young friend and godson, Mr. Sanderson, to
witness's family.
Colonel Morse, late of the Indian army, resided at Clear-
brook, Carnarthenshire, and was first cousin, by half-blood,
to the deceased. Had seen a good deal of him since wit-
ness's rehire to England in 1856. Was at Coedriglan for
a week in March, 1869. The testator expressed to witness
his surprise and regret that his nephew (the defendant)
should have said that he was out of his senor. Merely
said in reply that he (witness) hoped there bad been some
misunderstanding. The next day witness went with tea-
tator to St. Hilary, and in consequence of something witness
bad heard he (wiener) told testator that be was quite sure
neither the defendant nor his mother had intentionally
done or thought anything to offend him ; adding that it was
a pity there should be such a schism in the family. Tes-
tator replied that it was all very well talking, bet witness
did not know very meth about it. He stated that le a Arm,
but not angry manner. On the way back from St. filler;
he said hi was very much hurt and disappointed
at Boding that his sister Louisa objected to his
wintering there ; so much so, that he was determined to give
up the project, but that the house should be put in a
thorough state of repair. On another occasion ho referred
again to the report of his insanity, adding, " But I don't
think I shall leave Coedriglan away from George, after
all." Testator afterwards visited witness at Clearbrook ;
and on that occasion he said he intended to leave 2,000/. to
the diocese of St. David's, as a token of his esteem fur the
bishop. He also stated his intention to divide his estate,
and not leave the whole of it to one person. On a later
occasion he said that all his property would go to his wife:
and that he intended afterwards to leave Coedriglan to his
nephew George, and St. Hilary to young Sanderson. He
observed that that gentleman was not likely otherwise to be
very well off ,• that he had lately become better acquainted
with him, and that be now took a great interest in him. He
also mentioned again his bequest to the diocese of St. David's.
Toward@ the end of his life he grailuidly became more feeble,
Ibut his mind remained perfectly deer. Was at Coedrigbin
one day, and it being rainy be read the service of the day,
with the exception of the lesions, to his assembled house-
hold. When telling an anecdote, he would occasionally
refer to his wife for a name. If she had been attending to
something else she would give 011, or two wrong open, but
he would never accept them. When, however, the right
one was given him, he would resume his story at the point
at which be bad left off.

Croesszamieed Testator had told witness that Mn.s
°worse Millen» had offended him by "some impertinent
meddling ^on her part about the churchyard, and that be
aid not particularly like the family. Yrs. George Traherne
had elm told witness that the deceased had written a very
severe letter to her. The testator did not tell wittier that
be bad left his nephew George • sum of moopy until be
sane into Coistriglan, or that be bad divided his pictures.
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