The Express.
London, England, 1859-05-03 00:00:00

(Stamped id. Mating.) [TWOPENCE.

asked to put Lard Derby's Miami in • brio*, It would
mph* • wry brp te bald thin. (Wet a beghtar.)
Mow, he me merefriber kr ag2iser galimma has
referred to me eastilejelat, the el &Mit nits ;
that he of lad I de not epee
witliCt.reallicote ea this : I tell pa I do so ex-
ciLl. was formed: In hopes that NM 00.111011111 could
and a tempembe wee attempted by • member of
Lord Palmenteses geverionsat, sad • nap
was atism able zeen—l
elude to Sir Gaup Mew • • ocelffile•M
by Mr. Walipalea dm Lord Derby's goetrament. it
both felled, aed I lima It tome Het Mb not Wady to
Drava Of bode to the oeemlry to ateinteb—le keep up--the
ill will sire* ached M fib talliset--(Eulffe)-0.4 *2l
it would be bit baths te Mb, et enee pond= SWUM vein.
try meielmenes of the time* them to mly sny bap/ •
the imposit toe of dunk mina (Lend deem hem the
hberals, and coy of a What about Oemetpleion? Whet
about Woburn and Thornily Abbey, and all the ether
church properly you've got P' This Led vemilem ben
Yr. flannel Day, of St. Neon). I will tellyen all Meat
that presently. I tell yen that I think the demi well
stand on • more secure lamb it the asstwmarey as to
church rates were dime away with. (Mr. Day, who
WY among the crowd it libmsb, ban via inter`'
rupted, and woe lenient!' UMW est.) lan sow Ve•
limed hie lordship) gob. toms* en • wet imembint) sub.
jeet—the state of Morava. (Chews.) I have beratehe,
I as. told to this very day, that mhos Led Dad, end Ids
ministry remained in power, it would be imperbie mak-
tab the pesos of E derru.diMst. I eim tiny
to my OM that
made by the lea govaraetatt hr tie prerwesakm aid parses
may have bean prelsewertity ; ft may tem out,
lemam of those who think that it Mil—that treytT net
ame
beat well directed , ten, however that may be, we ell know
that they have felled. (Chests.) We weß Mow that the
war has began ; and we well know, too, that this country
bee no right to take pen stew cm mu wide or the other—
(Mews from all parties)—ia that war, but to ma atabi a nein
neutrality. (Renewed cheernalCd that opinion salad no
medially
leter thin bit Saturday by lord Derby himself, and
I apes with Istm. (
ada7Baust.la think that we
should keep up our fled, sad, in ' saffleisnt tone at
!toms to repel any insult that may be to us. (Loud
ersere2 Tent glad to dad, the, that the late Waiters have
o m
increase la the navy, and all I regret with regard
to that is, that they did not do min the mouth of February
bet, when member. of the NOM of Commons would have
had the opportunity of voting far mach lemma. It le, how-
ever, a different thing to arm la oar own defame, then with
a view of taking part In that leer, and I will say no more
with regard to it than this, that if the Independence end
hbrrty of the people of Italy mesh from the_ quarrel, I, for
one, shall. heartily rejoioe. (Loud ohms.) The troth than
is, that the ministry having Monett forward so many ted
measures affecting home matters, have utterly failed la pre-
ttifying pesos abroad, and the question for you to decide is
whether these are the ministate most competent to carry on
the affairs of the country, at home sad abroad. My opinion
is that they moat decidedly are not. (Cheers and uproar.) But
there is a farther question with regard to the future. The
gentleman
who proposed Mr. Fellowee said that any messes
t propose the added of reform would be
fumed
on
in coonexion with Mr. Bright. With regard to
that I explained my opinion, some time ago; when I was
invited to meet Mr Bright et • great public dingier lad
autumn, I said that I' had • great respect for Mr. Bright and
for his peneversnoe in the rinse of reform, but that I
differed with Mr. Bright on many important pohn—emn•
with regard to the church—some as regarded home—mid
some regarding foreign affairs; there is no doubt that I
differ with him on his measure of reform' widely. I ask, Is
this the first time I have endeavoured to bring in a moron
of reform P (Cheers.) In 1831, I brought la a bill which
was unanimously dr nouncel by the whole tory party; they
said that if that bill became law, the Bing could not
keep his crown, that all would be reduced to • state of
anarchy, and that no man would be able to retain his pro-
perty. That was to be the effect if that bill paned; Mt*,
did in 18321 (Loud cheers.) Twenty-seven yews have
now elapsed from that period, and I call upon yen to my
whether the consequences of that bill have been Zdez
bad to the country. (.. Goad, goad," from the
and opposition from the communes.) I thlak that the
time has now come when the best and inoid, ladsateions
of the working chum are premeinettly entitled to • slum
hn the return of the repressatatives of the people, when
they are entitled to take pert in guiding members to pr-
Bement ,• and any measure I may bring la will tend to
that end. (Cheers.)
Mr. Cusaims VILLBSI (Huntingdon) seconded the no-
sainetket.
The Ron. Colonel OCriVll7B DUNCOXByrepoded, and
Mr. P.O. demeanesonsdect, Lord Robert outage.
Mr. Famowas (one of the late members) then In the
worm of a long and vigorous eddrees expressed himself in
favour of extending the franchise according to it e pea laid
down by the Berl of Derby in the Me reform bill. Mr.
Venoms said that in the present atm°, parties, Lord Derby
wee the only toss to whom the reins of power c inlet safely be
confided, and he could command 280 votes In the House of
Commons. He (Mr. F.) was not in favour of the total aboli-
tion of church rates until some measure providing for the
support of the fabric of th
tvira ieedchurcth.was subtierted.
truth la azAcllalve that had beearotght'against him that here we any
had endeavoured to inflames his tenants in hie favour, but
said that, on the c ntrary, he had given them every freedom.
He we in favour of the total Media= of thatch rates. Hs
wee not in favour of the ballot on principle, but grievous
end tin-English as it might be, be preferred It to the pre-
vailing sy stem of intimidation by landlords. With regard to
the qoseti n of refou, he maintained that they had
much, bull socially mid morally, since the Re
Ilel V 1832, and he was is favour of hailer and progreene
reform It would be presumption on hie pert to speak of our
foreign policy but this ha would say, that be wee in favour
of civil and tioes liberty all over the worldond bed •
thorough hattrreedd of despotism (Chime.)
Lord Rofizitt MoNTAoli expeemed in stmeral twins
his edhesion to the gmersomat of the Berl of Derby.
Lord John Itusell had left the Meting, before Lord Mos-
tagn spoke.
The show of hands was demisted to be in favour of Mane
Fellowes and Heathcote, mid • poll wee demanded for Lord
Montagu ; the same wee fixed for Thuuuday.
The proceedings concluded with • vote of thanks to
the Merit!, and, se meal in Huntiegdanshire, three cheers
for the ladies.

SOUTH WILTS.
The nomination for the Southern Division of the
county of Wilts took place yesterday In fialkohnry market
place. About 1,000 persons ware present, the absence of a
contest having materially diminished the Interest generally
taken in the procsediege.
Hr. T. B. Pownw. proposed the re-eleetion of the Right
Hon. Sidney Herbert ; Mr. J. H. JACOB seconded the no-
mination.
Mr. J. Parrett nominated, and Hr. N. BARTON 'spaded,
the nomination of Lord H. Thynne.
No other candidate being proposed. the High Sheriff de-
clared Kr. 8. Herbert and Lad H. Thynne dray elected.
Mr. BIDSRT 11111111 T the debased tbo electors. After
amazing his regret that illness has mused the retirement
of Mr. Wyndham, his late colleague, be proceeded to soy—
I will now endeavour to show you sa far ea I can what is
likely to happen in the next parliament respecting reform.
Lord Derby item "I am not pledged to befog in a bill. I
may being M one or I may not, according as circumstance
may dictate." Now, the way in which I interpret that is
this—if Lord Derby gets a 1 majority be will give no
reform at all. If he has a well majority he will probably
introduce a measure, as many of his supporters are pledpd
to reform. If there is a radical majority the measure will be
a raiical one; and it there Is only a moderate majority it will
be • safe and moderate nemore." lAt us tura now to the
pledges of candidates. 1 hare sass two candidates for counties
going for the ballot and Lord Derby. (Laughter.) I also
ese this statement everywhere—.l see going in to give an
independent sum ort to Lord Derby's admioistrarion." They
add—" I intend also to vote for a 10/. franchise in counties
and a 61. franchise in boroughs." That is what the j say ;
but what is it that they mien? They amen Lord Derby's
government and Lord J. Russell's Reform Bill. (Laughter
and cheers.) The division they ere going to make
is this—the opposition are to do the legislation
and the government are to hold the sake!. (Laughter.)
What we watt is a bill that will settle the question—per-
hap. not finally, but at all an nia fir the rest of our live..
(" Hear, hear," and cheers." Let me now say a word Cr
two about tcreign affairs. You ell know that at the praent
moment war bee probably begun. The state of Italy has
been a matter of great anxiety to all of us for very isen),
years. The Italisu people have beau deprived of all liberty
by their native rulers, and those native rukra have been con-
firmed in their power against the people by two nations—
' Austria end France. France now objects to thy system
which Austria has pursued, which she herself has shared in,
It may be right and well for her to repent of the evil she has
done ; sad at any rate we have now these two nation" about
to fight. We ham taken part in negotiations for peso., nod
I believe that the government have ban honestly doing their
.4.4 to ware perm, but unfortunately they have not suc-
ceeded. I don't say that they have taken the best course in
every napes, but we must recollect that great sameness
me to be made for Lord Maluseetinry. He ben not the expe-
Tilers of authosity which older men In Europe pewee in
connexion with mob affairs, but be has no doubt dose hie
best, It may turn out that the invention of a
congress-
which by the by wee so propositioned oars—weepnt.-5
merely to obtain delay, and that Austria, knowing that there
was no [boas fsda desire of obtaining peace, being rained by
the mermen* expense of her armaments, and seeing France
still continue mown% preparation* for war, thought
it hoe only chance to fight at oats, In order
that the contest might come MI baton they were
obliged to disband their army ix vast of nosey.
Although the ithrolation has been resorted to with a view
of ng en evil, es lbw se I as see the sew Neuss of
Goes- is likely lo be twin lirmAlier to the lest. I hope
you will extend to your members—do Lord Henry Thynne,
ea well as to myself—that indulgence which the difficulty of
the times repine, end will make allowances for those who

Mareoweing lettettly, to the beet el their abaiti, to do
duty to Mak ocemitagate sr to the nemni.
Lad H. Tamara rut Leidy eakeeeed the row la de-
fer of the pet* el Lord Dates government, width, he
mkt, had sea the Mfrs at the 001intry during Tel 7
Tali dignity gad boron sad had only been
=iirsie
_beams opposition on the part of Lord J.
Mara mud to the question of reform, he believed
taut thediebete at the fete measure were defects which could
Gully have bra 'girdled in committee.
The
the Hig pehw= then concluded with a vote of thanim