The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-02-09 00:00:00

THE REPORT OF THE CRIMEAN COMMISSION

In answer to Lord W. GRAHAM,
Mr. PEEL said the officers nominated in the Crimean corn
rnissioners report had all seen the report. All now in London,
including Lord Lucan, had stated their intention of making
some explanations on the subject to the proper authorities.

THE CHINESE SQUADRON.
Mr. H. BAILLIE moved the adjournment of the house, at
its rising, to Monday next, and took the opportunity of calling
attention to a statement that appeared in the morning papers,
relative to the British squadron in the China
Seas, under Admiral Stirling. It was stated that the
admiral had received instructions to capture or destroy a
Russian squadron known to be in those seas, and that the
admiral intrusted the duty to a junior officer, Captain
Elliott, who, when he came up with, the Russian vessels,
declined to attack them, as he was not aware of their force,
but resolved to send 500 miles to Japan to the admiral.
This he did, and the consequence was that the Russian vessels,
consisting of three transports loaded with fugitives from
Pretopauloveki, escaped. He (Mr. Baillie) wished for some
explanation upon this subject, which reflected upon the conduct
of our navy.

Sir C. `Doom replied that it was true that the admiral
had orders to take or destroy Russian vessels wherever
he met with them, but 'he had had no special
orders with respect to a Russian squadron in the China
seas! Ile had been directed to endeavour to
intercept the crew of the Russian frigate Pallas, who it
was supposed were endeavouring to make their escape from
Japan, and the expedition was entrusted to Commodore Elliott.
In the eourse of the expedition, the English vessels same
across the Russian squadron, consisting of six vessels; the
Aura frigate, 44 guns, a corvette of 24 guns, a corvette of 20
gnus, a vessel which could not be distinctly made out, bearing
the admiral's flag, and which afterwards turned out to be an
armed transport mounting six guns.'There were also two
smaller vessels, but they were so drawn up in harbour that
their broadsides incommoded the mouth of the harbour. Under
these circumstances he thought that Commodore Elliott, whose
force was much less than the Russian, and the soundings of
the harbour being unknown, did right in not entering to
attaek the Russian vessels.

Mr. ELLIOTT, as a relative of Captain Elliott, complained of
the eourse pursued by Mr. 11. Baillie.

The su,ject then dropped.
RELATIDNS WITH AMERICA.
Mr. COBDEN again asked the Government, whether
there was any objection • to lay on the table
the correspondence relating to our present relations
with America. His reason for repeating the ques-
tion was, that he did not think the answer the noble
lord gave when he last put it, namely, "Ti at the corres•
pondence was not completed," was founded on fact. There
were two questions of difference with America : one upon the
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other was upon the matter of enlistment. Now, ho had reason
to believe that the correspondence on the first subject was
concluded, as it had been made public in America, and had
been published in a pamphlet in England. It had been stated
in the United States senate that the correspondence bad con-
cluded ; and Lord Clarendon, in his last note to Mr. Buchanan
on the subject, made a similar statement. Upon the subject
of enlistment in America, Mr. Cobden, after commenting upon
the folly of sending to a fine climate, where
men were earning four shillings per day, to
endeavour to get men to enter our service, to do duty in a
bad climate for la. a day, remarked that in this case the
government had admitted its error, and it was absurd there-
fore to continue the dispute. He submitted that the question
might be discussed in that House, and that a way might then
be peaceably found to settle the question. He thought the
question of our own relations would be better in the hands of
that House than in those of the goverr ment and the press.
If a war broke out with America (a no worse calamity could
befal this country and the world, whatever party was victorious)
the public of England would not enter upon it willingly, and
such a state of things could only be brought about by secret
diplomacy or by the invitation of the public press.
Lord PALMEBSTON, in referenee to the first subject of differ-
ence with America explained the treatyof 1850, observing that its
words were quite clear and distinct. At the same time the
American Government wishes to put a construction upon it at
variance with that originally intended. Some correspondence
had taken place, the consequence of which was, that the
English Government, while holding its own construction to be
just, was willing to refer the matter to time arbitration of any
other Power. To this proposition America had not yet made
any reply ; however, he was willing to lay all the correspond-
ence that bad taken place on the subject on the table. With
regard to the subject of enlistment, the Government was led
to believe that there were a great many persons in America
who wished to enlist into the service of this country,
and, in consequence, a depot was formed at
Halifax, and several hundreds of Germans were
enlisted. But it being found difficult to continue
without giving umbrage to the United States, orders were given
to discontinue the proceedings. After this, a representation
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voluminous; and it would be unjust to America to publish
the former correspondence without this despatch—and it was
unjust to England to publish that despatch without the answer
of the British government to it. He agreed that nothing
would be more calamitous than a war with America; but he
believed that if both parties met with an equally conciliatory
spirit, an amicable arrangement might he made.
After some remarks from Sir DE LACY EvANs, the subject
dropped.

The metropolitan pollee bill was read a third time, and
passed.

LAW OF PARTNERSHIP BILL.

On the motion for the second reading of the partnership
amendment bill,
Mr. SPOONER raised some objections to the measure, but
said he would not oppose the second reading, though he should
notassenting to that stage, pledge himself to its Principle.
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ir?irxrsory heartily concurred in the principle of the bill,
but stated his intention of proposing some alterations in com-
mittee, with a view to render it more perfect.
Mr MusTz raised some objection to the principle of the
measure.

Mr. CAIRNS defended the measure, and observed that its
three clauses were almost word for word the same as that
proposed by him,
Mr. MOFFAT expressed his approval of the bill, from which
and rejected by the government last year.
he anticipated the greatest benefit. He thought it would better
have been entitled A bill for the repeal of the usury laws.
Mr. THOMAS BARING remarked that the bill was a
complete contradiction of the bill introduced by the Govern-
ment last year. The principle of such a measure as this was
contained in its details, and he never knew Such a mass of
moral changes and experiments brought forward at once. He
objected strongly to a measure that offered a premium, not to
trade but to fraud. Limited Liability was very well in a
country where there was enterprise without capital, as in
America, or where there was capital without enterprise, as in
France ; but in a country like England, where enterprise and
capital were combined, it was not wanted.
Sir W. CLAY supported the bill, on the ground that it gave
facilities for the development of capital amongst the humbler
classes of the country.

Mr. IIAsTrE hoped that the Government would not proceed
with a bill of such importance, containing, as it did, primiples

from which danger was apprehended, till time had been given
for its full consideration.
Mr. BIGGS thought these laws were the most salutary that
bad' ever been introduced, as they would give the poorer
classes an opportunity of entering upon commercial specula-
tions from which they had been for so long a time separated.
Mr. GLYN was afraid that the bill in its present form
would open the door to frauds of all kinds.
Mr. MAutis said he would not object to the motion for
the second reading, but would endeavour when they got into
committee to introduce safeguards into the bill, which would
remove all objections.
Mr. CARDWELL hoped that no delay would take place in
reading the measure a second time, that they might go into
committee early in the session, and have full time to consider
the details which really contained the principles of this bill.
Mr. PELLATT supported both measures.
Mr. MITCHELL and Mr. Serjeant SHEE, though not
altogether agreeing with the details of the measure, would
not oppose the second reading.
Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE, Mr. LAING, and Mr. CHAMBERS,
having also spoken in support of the principle of the bill,
Mr. LOWE replied, stating that he did not intend that the
bill should be committed before Monday fortnight, in order
that hon. members might have an opportunity of considering
the subject of safeguards.
The bill was then read a second time, as was also the Joint
Stock companies bill, and the Burial of the dead (Ireland)
bill, the last to be committed on that day three weeks.

YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion for the second reading of the bill,
Mr. V. SCULLY hoped that it would be postponed till Irish
members had an opportunity of hearing the opinions of their
constituents upon it.
Mr. KENNEDY followed to the same effect.
Mr. HORSMAN said the bill was the same as that appli-
cable to England, which was carried by the House last year,
and lie did not therefore see any reason for delay. Irish
representatives would have an opportunity, between the second
reading and the committee, which he proposed to fix for that
day three weeks, for consulting their constituents, and any
suggestions that might be offered, would receive the serious
consideration of the government.
Mr. MAGUIRE remarked that in the bill there was nothing
to prevent Roman Catholic children from becoming the prey
of Protestant Proselytisers.
The bill was then read a second time.
The House of Commons Bill went through committee.

ABOLITION OF CIIURCIT RATES.
Sir W. CLAY obtained leave to bring in a bill for the
abolition of church rates.

EDICAL REFORM.

Mr. HEADLAM moved for leave to bring in a bill to regu-
late the medical profession. The object of the bill was to
institute a system of equality of education, and a recipronlity
of practice, and to make a complete register of legally qualified
medical practitioners. He proposed to carry out these objects
to create a medical council composed of physicians and sur-
geons, nominated by the English, Scotch, and Irish colleges.
Mr. BRADY seconded the motion.

Lord PALMERSTON had great pleasure in voting for the
introduction of the bill, and wished the right hon. member
every possible success.

The motion was then agreed to.
The House adjourned at balf past nine o'clock,

ALLEGED EXTENSIVE ROBBERY BY A
WATCHMAKER'S MANAGER.

Yesterday, a rather respectably attired person named
Edward Morrison, living at No. 26, Nelson-street, Bruns-
wick-road. was brought up before Mr. Mansfield, at the
Police-court, in the custody of detective officer Scott, on
a charge of having robbed his employer, Mr. Samuel,
the extensive watchmaker, of Duke-street. Mr. Etty
appeared to eolith:et the case for the prosecution, and Mr.
C. Pemberton watched the case for the prisoner.
In stating the case to the bench, Mr. Etty said: The
present investigation was one of a very serious nature, as
a very large amount of prorerty was involved in it. On
the present occasion, therefore, he should only ask

for a remand for the purpose of obtaining informa-
tion relative to some watches which had been
lost. The prisoner; was the manager for Mr. Samuel,
and had up to Ihe present time held a respectable position
in society—was, indeed, a man of property, being the
owner of the house in which he lived, and also the one
adjoining, and was a near relative of Mr. Pemberton.
Mr. Pemberton: (evidently much annoyed at the re-
mark): Sir, that observation is offensive, and uncalled
for, but it shall be repaid with interest.
Mr. Etty then called Detective-officer Scott, who
stated, that he executed a search warrant on the premises
of the prisoner, where he found a quantity of watch
materials, some of which he admitted belonged to Mr.
Samuel. He (the officer) cautioned him not to criminate
himself, but when the articles were produced, he said to
Mr. Samuel, " that is t'our's," or " that is mine," (the
officer produced a very great number of articles apper-
taining to th' watch makinc, business).
Mr. Pemberton : Separate the articles the prisoner said
were his property from the others. (The officer proceeded
in selecting a great number of tin boxes, watch movements,
and other articles.)

Mr. Etty was about to put a question to the witness,
when

Mr. Pemberton said—Sit down, sir; the witness is in
my hands, and if you don't know your duty I will teach
you it, and your profession too.
The officer having selected various articles said, in
answer to Mr. Pemberton, that he entered the house about
half-past one o'clock, accompanied by Inspector Murphy,
Mr. Samuel, and Mr. Etty.

,
Mr. Pemberton: So Mr. Etty turned detective, did he ?
I wish I had been there at the time. Who apprehended
the prisoner ?
Officer : I apprehended him at the request of !Mr.
Samuel who had taken out a warrant against him.
Mr Etty then asked the magistrate for a remand, on the
ground that there was a large amount of property yet un-
discovered, and that the prisoner had held a responsible
situation with Mr. Samuel while the plundering was going
on.

Mr. Pemberton objected, and said that if he had the
opportunity of examining Mr. Samuel, he should be able to
put a very different view on the case, and that in the end,
the prisoner would cut a more respectable figure than the
prosecutor, and that there existed something more between
them than the relative positions of master and servant.
Mr. Samuel was then called, and said the prisoner had
been in his employ for seven or eight years. In January
last he had taken stock, when he missed four watches and a
considerable quantity of watch materials. Yesterday, he
obtained a search warrant, and went to the prisoner's house,
and there found a large quantity of watch materials, which
belonged to him, and which he suspected had bean stolen
by the prisoner.
The proseeutor'was cross-examined at considerable length
by Mr. Pemberton, for the purpose of showing that, as he
had been a bankrupt, the property was not his, and, there-
fore, he was not the proper person to prosecute. In this
he failed, and the prosecutors wore that be had purchased
all his stock of the assignees after he had obtained his
certificate.

The witness having identified a number of the articles
found on the premises of the prisoner,
Mr. Etty asked for a remand.
Mr. Mansfield granted his request, and, on the applica-
tion of Mr. Pemberton, admitted the prisoner to bail,
on his finding two sureties in £5O each, and himself in
£lOO.