The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-30 00:00:00

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OMMIt • palladia ageism • distimpithed body of am. Bet
the l ...ester -Mae het tam herd IS Ilia Truselliry,
it tad, report spate ugly: bat wired ia a=sSms
anal ham tame WM the peobeh Idly mil aHe
shwa hate baste is. it wee maid et laid essio, slid that
eastibllissi above MAK wee Mid as AMR, kid that
Mere wee • matt Morisse in lager sum A Na-
meless Weems Me alma •er dear • Med sad
the reel mama. isherited meld skew liter the
ammo a them bishops* peeplity bad Use mer-
maid to the extent of between em sad two Moused
(Hear, bhp.) Bosidaja rides
_OM probate
:tar,ithere wet witillowersee Mr •VMMlHlsimli ea-
oembemem oil' Midi bad to be dedneeedelber
hem phi. He-bed his. .etisis ' plaint lb* lederride Me'
actual amounts loft by the 93 bishops, to whom the be..
member ire_gighailbeitili bed and had obtained
remit. is IS' 1s hi MM meek Mona of Unwise
60,0001 hod MAN elish, se hated lry the hoe. sad liaised
member, ho bead that the amid propert loft by each
✓raged ao more theta between . and 40,0001.
( Hear, his B.yeadtaLglilsrlitsiii2isid sap em meat, that
fir ems who lad up foss the lowest
ia eke .burghs I,looi. • year wee too nub
us • provides ilw hie family ? (Hier.) Bet dubs
sot all. Hew mush ef Me hes. samabloPir total h
realiad by listainsous (Hear:) He Mr. °sabers)
bed made enguirise en the antojece, mid he found that 14 out
of bishops nessilemed hod effected asserams as tlpir•
sw to the ineseme 112.0091 (Kw, bow.) Hasidas,
as et them bed hiss lob opiates fortuaitO 10,000 i. a rev,
w shish probate deity- had lo be p iid. Bet where did OW
bon. geatlemm lad that** mgerier medore were not to he
bettor paid them the seberdina a. Not -h the Old Tome,
meet, when the hish pima were richly endowed, aerie
witless of the aposilie. (Yes.) No, the perms who.
etches wore theft sommeatod on was a ruler, and might have
hese • mamba, perilasseat lad he lived in the presses
day. (s. laugh.) It shield be remembered that it was sot
Ihs amount of wealth, but the application of it, by 'thigh
the culpability of the maa was to be moasnred. The
bon. member este.plained that the laseakes e 1 the bishops
wore maisamdied.
Mr. HO RSMAN —I never said anything if this kied.
Mr. GOULBURN read as extract from the hes. ' nem
bees speed', asserting that the whole seal tithe blame wee
exerted in the slam of M. temporalities, and emeended that
hie inference bad been perfectly fair. Tee poet eheritable
iastitiatirms could tell how a great ptvtion of the bishops'
iSCOMPB was spent. To the Chevy ion EsoCedge Society,
the Prayer-book and Homily 8 wicks they contributed
largely, sad ehatity absorbed a largo ' of
thole gains- see their sepal alter OM , if the
henoerable gentleman thought that any man could
be of use to his follow-creatures without attention
to temporalities be was very much mistaken.
It may happen eseselesally that they asy be aegleeting one
zi,retal duty while performing hiaorher, bet the bon. pa.
would sot won the spprobatecia of the clergy or
laity if he thought be meld blind the people as to the as
cesmify of episcopal werament—(hearf—and episcopal
supenatendenco sad in committee he should be prepared to
give enact to thi opinions by proposing amendments on the

Mr. E. DENISON thanked the seMe lord for Intro-
dodos this bill, considering that it wee founded on the
unanimous report of a committee, of which the hon. gentle-
sae was • amber, who described this as • very
bed bill. So to (tanneries it was an ondeeerved oat
nue en the committee, the house, and the government. The
weeds of the committee were that the bosom@ of the com-
mission which was purely of an ecclesiastical character
should be operated from the managern.nt of the property
lithe essemittete bad intended that those who snagged
the property should refer all matters dealt with by
them to the ecclesiastical e omission they would
have worded their recommendation in a diff
manner. The whole 'slue of the b.ll would depend on the
moaner is which the committee was constituted, gni in his
opinion the ultimaos decision in all these questions should
remain in the large body who Octal be responsible. The
difference between him and his hon. friend was, as to
whether the paid commission which was to have the ma-
easement of the property was to be an srarieutive committee
or a body merely beefing the power of making recommends-
tions for the e ontnimion to act upon as they pleased. He
considered that if this last should be the decision of the
house the object of appointing such a committee would be
lost, sad there would be no responsibility.
Lord J. RUSSELL conceived that nn objections had bees
' advanced sgeinst the second reading of this bill, but that all
the objections which had been stated were merely matters
for consideration is committee. His hon. friend (Mr. Dent
son) said that the goverement had mistaken the object and
intentions of the "elect commutes—but he could scarcely
conceive diet it could have been tie intention of that eon
mates that the proposed committee eh mid hive a a- pants
authority from the conmission. With re.pect to the main
object the comm ttee had in view, he conceived the bill as it
stood would accomplish that In a way at least as effectively
as that his hon. friend proposed, for this being a limited
committee to manage the estates of the commiesion, and
having that business always betore them, there could be no
doubt that in 99 cues out of 100 their opinion would away
the commission, who would take the report of the committee
as conclusive, ex opt in eases which inlet:Ted matters of
principle, whoa it was proper that the whole board should be
consulted. The objection of the hon. member for Cocker-
mouth, who had otjected to the manner in which the bill
was framed, was not is his opinion of such import.
mace or gravity as the hon. gentleman seemed to
suppose. He suppeeed that the commiesionen wished
to retain the whole power to themselves, by proposing
that only two commissionm should be paid, but as he
(Lord J. Russell) read the bill, it was simply this—they said
there is not busker for sore than one paid commissioner,
but if the government think fit to have two, we shall not
object; but there is no reason for haver, a second paid COlN-
miaow:ter, as there will not be business to employ the other
commissioner. That was a practical point to which they
had turned their attention, but be did not think the bon.
gentlemen was entitled to build upon that se large and im-
mean. • emperstruerore as he hail done The hon. gentleman's
objection was one which might wel be considered in com-
mittee, when it might be properly decided 'whether there
should be two paid commissioners—the OOMMIII•011 consist-
lag of three in all—or whether there should be only two,
me of whom to be paid. At all events, this was not • point
fatal to the bill, sad he was sure the Archbishop
of Canterbury never thought that such a consequence
could be deduoed trim their opinion. He would not
go farther late the diamosion of the qoestion of the second
reading of the bill, Mammoth se no substantial objection had
bees offered to it. He could not subscribe to the character
whieb the hon. member for Cotkermouth had given of the
bishops., who, so tar as ha (Lord J. Ronal!) had any know-
ledge of them, were a pima' learned, courteous, and hos-
pitable body of man—(hear, hear)—and such, he believed,
' was the 4:tweeter they enjoyed in the country. (Hear,
hear.) It was true he bad been diaappointed in not bevies
their support is some matters in which they differed from
him; aad when the bill of 1840 went up to the llonee of '
Lords, in their opposing the then Archbishop of Canterbury,
and making the onnaimice so 011111Mlit that it would not
moth; but as to the Ismael character of the body, he be-
listed it to he as be had described it. Hear, hear.)
Mr. B. OSBORNB mid that the dogma that the boast
had so Polarisation over the entimiasiscal revenue', was •
tale for the visas. H. retorted upon the member for
Cambridge the taunts he bad thrown against Mr. Horseman,
and snood that no reform would have bee& effected is or by
the episcopal body bet for the active pressers exerted by
laymen outside.
Sir R. INOLIS kept up the diiettssion epos personal
topic', with a defence of Kr. Goulbern, and then diverged
into the questim of 'hunk property, denying that the clergy
were stipendiary servants whom tillarlet were to be allotted
by parbanswat The teensues of the see of London had
appertained to that episcopate ante the year 680. The dis-
like shown by some member' to the char* he likened to
hydrophobia, and after oomplaining of the unseemly inter-
ruptions which be said embarrassed the flow of his 'detente,
the hon. baronet went on to yin-flute the proceedings of
the Ecclesiastical Commission and the right of the bishops to
sit therein.

Sir B. HALL 11.min/wooed that the debate be adlounied,
Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT deprecated the continuation
of • chard% euntrovcroy is the spirit thee apparect in the
holm, aad wished the measure to be meat in at once to the
eemomlttee, where the amendments suggerad coon be pro-
perly amaldered.
Sir B. BALL persisted is neviag the adjoarnment of the
debate.

Lied J. RUSSELL observed opal the inenumiesce and
delay that would eras from postponing the second readier,
eider the •aistinet prsstare of public business.
Mr. PAD/1 WOOD commented oo the personal beets that
bad arises during the debate, aid briefly indicated some
mosaaments he wished to ham Wetted in the bill.
Mr. Cocasoam end Mr. Holmium made some remarks
upon the subject of adjournment The latter hoe. member
followed up the subject with some peered remarks epos
the paliamentary and °Melia career of ku awiiaat, the hon.
member fee Umbrian*.
Lord J. RUSSELL promised to appoint the committee of
the bill at some stalegem:early hour to admit of its toll
discussion on the piaci remising that he had telt
much pain at maay that had peeped during the
debate, the nobles lord eadramered to sake poem between
the seemben tar Cockermesth sad Cambrian., by declaring
tke sister isy of his owe respect Ise both hoe gentlemen.
Mr. OOULBURN bevies mode some almost inaudible
remarks of the oaten of an option?, the motion foe adjmirst.
meet was withdrawn. sad the bill read a mooed time.
PARLIAMENTARY VOTERS (IRELAND) BILL.
The Mums west into committee on this bill, for the
purpose of fnrerti gueadssate. The bill to be reported
ea Friday.
DEFECTS IN LEASES ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was reed a vetoed time.
EZDINGB IN CHANCERY.

Ilk. TUlitiii fteit;ijUdles;; t4;;;;;iii;;iii to diminish
the daisy and espouse of promodinp is dm Might Court of
Chummy.

SAVINGS BANKS.
The CHANCELLOR of the FACHEQUER mooed the
re•appoistsavet of the select eonantittee on savings beaks
which sat lam year. There would be so obj►aties, be meld,
to this re•appointmnt, is the sally object of re-appoietieg
the committee was to suet nod report that whit* had been
already ordered by the howw.—Agreed to.
CHURCH LIVINGS, 80.
On the emotion of Mr. 8. H , returns were ordered
of the number of smell livingsangseate4 by unconditional
grants from funds at the disposal of the ercieshatieel amnia-
sioners in England and Wales; speeify ing the saris,
locality, and diocesv of each living, the original value, the
amount of augmentation, and the coals adopted with
respect to papillate. sad Waage. Of grants to such
benefactions from other SOWING wade to benefices and
church,. in public and private patronage Of grants to