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to say that be had

Lord PALMERSTON—The noble lord took good care
not to menties it. (Cheers sad laughter.) He mentioved
Manchester, but made no &Murton to the Free-trade
Hall, • splendid building in the Italian style. He
spoke of Leeds, but he has forgotten that building which is
the greatest ornament of the lowa el Leeds, and which
also in the Italian style. (Hear bear.) Here are three
Mutate of great magnitude. etwantowlarg sums of money,
erected lately by the peopled dies, and surely these
are indiciadw o/ what the taste sad opinion of the people
are. (Hear, hear.) But the noble lord went further, and
wanted to saddle upon Edinburgh, the modern Athens—
upon Edinburgh. which be determined to adorn, the Cal-
ton Hill, with an imitation of the Parthenon—not satisfied
with the Italia, but going back to the Greek—the noble
lord wanted to throw upon Edinburgh the imputation of
having hem emmerted to the Gothic style. (Laughter.) I
call upon every Scotch member to lay whether that is not •
groin libel upon the test, of the community. (Loud laugh-
'ter.) Then objections have been made upon the ground
that these plans have so originally, and it is said in the
first place that it is not • talked etyle—that the Italian
style, I will not call it the Palledisa, bat the Roman
classical, is not nationth litelf is the Gothic national!
(Hear, hear.) I never heard math of the Goths and Van.
dediand Saracens doing mush in this ematry. (Laughter.)
I have been told in my earl y days that the Rmam were in
this country for • considerable number of years, and it is
probable therefore that they have • better claim to have
established in this island some dyke of architecture which
may be considered English, than those who never came
bum at aLL (Imighteic.) Bat say amble friend bilked
about-whoa was the real ancieth architecture of
Why, my hon. triad who followed him thought that
Stonehenge might be coesidered as • specimen of the
ancient architecture of the country. (Laughter.) But I
would go further, and say that the real aboriginal ambi-
tteeters of this countr7 was mud huts and wicker wigwams
—these were the original styles of those who flint inhabited
this island. ILond blighter.) And when we talk of Gothic
Ihaving been practised at certain periods, so has Italian.
When we are asked what is the national character, we
might, I thith, very reasonably ask the question
upon which it meat very much depend, namely, who
have been the most distinguished architects of the country
and what style did they practiee. We have bad Vanbrugh,
of Thom truly it has been said he laid heavy loads on earth,
bat who has given usfine buildings in the Roman and Grecian
style. We have had also Sir Christopher Wren and bilge
Jesse—great men, who have erected great edifices to excite
adiabatic% to the present day. (Hear, hear.) Do not tell
'me, then, that Gothic is the characteristic architecture of
the country. (Hear, hear.) If there was one character
more prevalent than another it was the castellated man-
sions ; but they were erected for purposes of defence. We
find them all over the country but the reason they were
erected has ceased to exist, and we ma , therefore, I think,
diming that style with all its Moon (Hear, hear.)
My him. friend says them is nothing so light as Gothic, on
account of the number of windows you can introduce.
But we have heard of the

Great windows that exclude the light ;
And purges that lead to nothing.
Asses and laughter.) And these were after the Gothic.
style. Then my no friend has very kindly invited me to
take a morning drive—which I am unable to aosept—through
the streets of Loudon, to test the public taste, forting
all those fine boildinp, Somersethouse, fft. Paul's Qtthe-
dral—
An Hos. Mmara—The Post-office.

LortiPALMERST' ON—Yee, she Post-office, and several
others. Why, it is very much as if a gentleman should
drive throughlhe streets of Rome, and seeing • somber of
children with arms diakiened and lege out of joint ex-
hinted as beggars for the profit of their parents, should say,
"These ese the tasted sad habits of the Roman people,"
forgetting all the while the many stout, well-conditioned,
able•Mdied men he may have met,—(laughter)—and should
my, " Let us make our children like the people of Rome,
for these are the tastes of the Roman people." (Renewed
laughter.) My noble friend reverses the boast of the
Roman emperor, " I found it of brick and left it of stone,"
and would make these buildings of brick. Well, we all
know what colour brisk turas after • aerials exposure to
London smoke. lam afraid to quote as Italian authority
against it because Ido not admit Italian taste ; but I will
quote what was mid to me by Can ova, a man versed in
arts, and supposed to be • good judge in these
mitten. He said, "If London were only widened
it would be • real Pamilles." (Hear, hear.) But instead
of making it a real Paradise my noble friend would make it
• real something else, by the gloominess be would met over'
all the streets. (Chun mid laughter.) No doubt it was
well knows that error gas ininite and truth simple. Geoff
taste was simple and had teetie infinite, and therefore it n
ClPithat Gothic admits of infinite variety. (Laughter.)
nothing will satisfy my hon. friend but the invention
of some new order of arebltecture. Mr. Marsh, a great
architect, tried the experiment, but did not woe-
' reed. We all remember the story of the gear
Neiman walking along Regent-street while it was
building, and struck with something very irregular in one
of the houses being constructed, said to the clerk of the
works, " Why, good heavens ! what order do you cull it r
to which be got the reply, "It is Kr. Marsh's positive
order." (Much laughter.) I should like to see the positive
order of my noble friend. (Renewed laughter.) But if my
noble friend wants to invent a new order of architecture, if
it is thought worth while, let us offer a premium for it ;
but for heaven's sake, seeing that we want a Foreign-office,
that our Foteigo-office is tumbling down, and that the
Oolorrial-office Is following its example—(a laugh)—and
seeing that we want an I and a state Puper.office,
the present being nearly fall, there not being space left for
more than two years' tapers—mein all these thing', I do
my do not delay providing these buildings till somebody
invited to compete for the purpose shall have invented a
new order, and that new order shall have been approved
by the Hove of Commons. (Hear, hear.) With regard to
them plans, it is quite true that I did object to the first
plan of Mr. Scott as being Gothic. Gothic architecture is
very fit for churches and for buildier of certain kinds, but
I bold that it is unfit for Meet architecture in a town, and
espesialty In • ease like this, where the buildings are of •
differed character, and we want to combine external ap-
mvanoe with internal arrangement. (Hear, hear.) Then
Mr. Scott brought me • plan which appeared to be Gothic
la disgune, with windows round the roof ; and afterwards
be brought sur another, which appeared to be a mixture of
Sermonic and Byenatine. I said to him then, " Really, Mr.
Scott, you are quite capable of excelling in any style ; do,
far heaven's sake, go and bring me something in the Italian
style." (Laughter.) Ile did, and it ha. been admired by
the ban judges. Ido not rived( pretend to be • judge of
the Monti& merits of architecture, but it seems to me •
miry beautiful plan, and one which combines great beauty
and moment with moderation in expense. (Hear, bear 4
If we were to adopt the suggestion of Inv bon. friend, who
spoke of using different granite., different marbles, sod
various kinds of encaustic work, the expense would
be veay heavy. And it should be recollected that the
front to Parliament-street will be open, and the building
will be open towards the park ; but the Downing-street
aide will be very little open, and the other side will not be
open at all, and therefore it would be a mere muds of
money to have highly ornamental building.. (Hear,
hear.) Well, having done that, I determined that that
should be the style submitted for the approbation of the
house. The building is to comprise an India-office ; and my
right her. friend the Secretary of State for India, who is
to build that portion out of the Indian funds, approves of the
plan lest prepared by Mr. Scott. If we were to make our
part Gothic and he was to mike his in the Italian style I do
not think we should add much to the beauty of the whole.
(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) Without detailing the house
longer I will only just answer the appeal made to me per-
sonally by my hon. friend (Mr. Loyard). Hs had the kind-
ness to give me credit for some amount of common sense,
thinking that I showed the possession of that quality in
going down to Harrow to lay the find stone of a Gothic build.
mg. (Laughter) I admit that I did show commix] sense
in that. lam nut food of Gothic, but • plan having been
approved of for • Gothic library in harmony with • Gothic
chapel close to which it was to be placed—(hear, hear)—
I waived my objection to the style, and laid the first atone.
I will now ask the noble lord awl my hon. hind to show
some good sense now—(cheers, and hinghter)—to waive their
preference for the Gothic, and agree to lay the first stone of
this building, and I am quite sure that when they see the
building nee they will have the same feeling that I shall
have when I see the Gothic building rim—of great pleasure
in barker contributed to such • work. (Loud cheers.)
The house the, divided :
For Lord Echo's motion
Against it
THE DANISH CLAIMS,
•

Mr. MACAULAY, v7gbad• motion on the paper on
this subject, mid that he should postpone it till Fridav,when
he under.tood both the Attorney and Solicitor-General
would be in the house. The house had in ISA voted au
address to the crown, preying her Majesty to liquidate the
aeourtained amount of these claims. It was not his in-
tention to enter at full into the argument in rem judicatain,
or to ask for a vote of the house, but ho should endeavour
to place before .the house the actual position of these
claims.
The motion was adjourned till Friday.
SUPPLY.
The house then went into committee of supply.
A vote of 30,0001. on account of the new Froorseeign.oftice
led to • revival of the discusdon on the pro public
calm, ht the coons of which Mr. Oissossx atm other mem-
bers oonemented apes the indefinite nature of the expendi-
ture an building. generally, and expressed their
diea of the costly and unsatisfactory nature of
such weeks.
Is reply to en How. bigwig&
Mr. COWPER stated that the 200.0001. which it was
propcned to spend on the Foreign-office would not include
either tM cologno.ottoe or the establishment for the Se-
cretary of State for India. No official residence for the
foreign minister was, however, contemplated.

[TWOPENCE

The CHANCELLOR of the =CHEQUER made a sheet
statement on the vote fat the paymaster-gensraVa-clik" to
the effect that the office of paymaster in Ireland bad been
abolished u no longer secemary, and that when the British
conttibatiqn for the of the Stade duos was die.
pored of the office •of pa in Hanover would be ox.
%thrashed. The right hon. gentleman added that it was
necessary that the Hanoverian government should be paid in
German mosey.
On the vote for 215,707/. for woods, forests, and land re-
velle; .

iii."CAIRD called attention to the sum of 2,2001. charged
for law costs in Scotland, which he rid amounted to 10 per
cent. apes the revenue, whereas in Ireland, where the re-
venue was doable that of Scotland, the solicitor got but
2501. a year.
A long discussion, involving the whole cost of manning
the department,ensued, but ultimately the vote was carried,
an amendment by Mr. Cnird to reduce the retrinueniton to
the solicitor Sootland by LOW/. having been negatived
by 122 to TB.
Several other votes were agreed to, and the hour n•
aimed.
The East India (Civil Service) BM, se amended, was
considered and agreed to.
On the motion for the consideration of
itee
alncropriatio'n
Spate (Sudbury and St. Albans) Bill as
_.ir COLLINS moved to substitute Wakefield for Pon-
, Wind as the place of election for the southern division of
the West Riduig.
Mr. M. MILNES supported the claims of Pontsifracs.
Major EDWARDS considered that Wakefield was en-
, titled to precedence, as all the public offices were in that
tos.
fib O. C. LEWIS rivorsted Pontefract as more eon-
veakat._

On a division, the "notion of Mr. Couties, is favour of
Wakefield, was carried by 107 to 94. The word Wakefield
was then opiered to be inserted.

The Denims triivielety Bill paused through esmittee.
TURNPLIDI ACM 90IPTINUANCH AND TURNPIKE

TREWS ARRANGEMERTSBILLS.
These bills were read • second time.
COUNTY SURVEYORS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill a amended was coceddered.

COPYRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL.
This bat psassil through committee.
PUBLIC OFFICES EXTENSION BILL.
The Lords' aineadineots were considered and agreed to.
EDINBURGH UNIVERSITY BILL.
• This bill was reed eseeed time.
LANDLORD AND TENANT LAW ANENDNEN

(IRELAND) haFiRIeEED—INORBITI7
This bill wee reed a second time.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS PREVENTION (No. 2) RILL
Viseount ItAYNHAY moved the second reeding at this
hill, which was opposed by Mr. HIMINXIIT and 0114111.
The second reading was negatived.

urrivElis rry ELECTIONS BILL.
On the motion for the third reading of the bill,
Mr. BOUVEB.LE moved that the third reeding should be
11=4 The bill had never been discussed.
1(411/) discussion,
Lord PALMERSTON proposed Friday next for the
mast, which was acespred by Mr. Douses.
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LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 9.

TO OUR RIADER3.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. INTELLIGENCE.

A late edition of the Exprus is published every
evening daring the racing season, containing the
vvsulte of thu day's mom.

THE Earl of ZETLAND is a nobleman of great
possessions. lie has large estates in Yorkshire ;
and two seats in Parliament are among the here-
ditament, appurtenant to his property at Rich-
mond, a pretty little village in the North Riding.
When a man has a large establishment, he feels it
his right to name whom he will to the different
places it contains. Somebody must be his steward,
his member, and his groom. It is not his fault if
he was born to have many servants to do
his bidding ; all he can do, if ho be a good-
natured man, is to make their various
situations as comfortable to them as he
can ; to be considerate in the order, he gives them,
while he takes care to he obeyed ; never to change
or knock them about without sufficient reason ;
and in short, to make them feel that, though they
are servants and he is the master, he wishes them
to identify their interests with his own. Lord
Zerta,soi has the repute of being a good-natured
Mall. He is fond of thoroughbred horses, and
fond of close boroughs ; he keeps • certain number
of each, and his boast is that seldom if ever are
either of them to be seen out of condition. His
jockeys are judiciously chosen, never allowed to
carry more weight than they ought, and when they
are worn out, always pat aside with a good-
hummed shake of the band and a genial good-bye.
So of the members whom their noble proprietor
has no further occasion for. It is part of the
pride of a well bred man not to insist upon livery
at all times. Your real gruml stupintr likes to
have the people about him look as if they were
quite independent ; and there is a refinement of
state in being waited on by a fine gentleman.
When Lord ZETLAND wishes to supersede a
dependant his desire is conveyed by a well-under-
stood nod, and the domestic or political re-
tainer knows at once that although he has no choice
in the matter he will not be denied the slender labs.
factiOu of what the late Mr. Pewee used to call
" disminiug himself." So again when the Karl has
made up his mind about his successor, the door is
left open, and the new gentleman is allowed to
walk in and take his seat with the smirk
of an equal who had called to do his 'lordship
• favour. As changes of AU kind are not very
frequent on the well-regulated estates of the Earl,
they muse, when they do occur, no little interest,
almost approaching to what, were we given to high
colouring, might be called -a sensation among the
inhabitants of that placid and docile domain.
We are not surprised, therefore, to hear that
during the last few days the picturesque hamlet of
Richmond lies been all agog in consequence of
the unlooked-for tidings that dear old Mr.
RICH, who everybody thought was cer-
tain to die in the place, " had had to
" give up," and that a stranger gentleman
from far South was " ooming to be" in his stead.
Three days ago Mr. Rica bowed himself out,
muttering sosnethio& as be got near the door,
about his bad eyes and doing the handsome,
though with a certain peculiar expression of face,
towards Mr. Pautal, by whom he had been
graciously told that he was to be succeeded.
People asked under their breath who and what
Mr. Path= might be ; but they soon got a hint
that it was no affair of theirs : he was a
brother-in-law of Lord WaLosoaava, sad a
friend of the Duke of Nrecswrix, an Equity
pleader of note, and making a great deal of money;
and if upon all occasions in times past he had
voted Tory while poor Mr. RICH had voted Whig,
what was that to them ? Has ziot the proprietor
of a borough like Richmond a right to change his
mind if he pleases, and to do what he will with
his own f Perhaps his lordship is tired of Liberalism
and mesas to turn Conservative ; perhaps not,
but merely wishes to show that he was worthy of
" the Thistle " which Lord Psi.massrom recently
gave him out of his own hand. Nothing, at
all events, could be more considerate than
his offering shelter to the new tioucrroa-
Gesta.st, when in all England he had not where
else to pillow his head, and when even at Wilton he
could not get leave to sit down. Now, what can the
under-servants at Richmond have to do with these
things f Their business is to behave like gentle-
men to his lordship's gentlemen, and not to forget
themselves by asking rude and impertinent ques-
tions. Their duty is to be hospitable even as their
lord to a learned and pious PAMIRS, who has trod
his weary way from Plymouth to York without
finding an entertainer. Poor Mr. Rica, he was such
a modest gentleman, never making much of him-
self, or setting up for authority! But nothing
will do for Mr. Rot7Nnnu. PALL' vs but he must tell
the gossips in the servants' hall how he was sought
out and sent for by the PRI/SR Misorrza, and how
he would not come at all except upon his own
terms in every particular, and how in point of fact
he saw they could not do without him, and how he
gave full warning at starting that he was not to be
expected to do anything but just what he liked
himself. He had not wanted place or mired
for Parliament ; and mu he had made up his mind
to have nothing to do with any Government that
did not accept his principles. Lord PALWRIIITON
might have known this when he asked him to
undertake the honour of being Soucrroa-
GENEXAL; at any rate, the PUNISH must know it
now, for before accepting the office he (Mr. PALMZII)
had stuffed the condition down his lordship's

throat, and lest the fact should not be generally
known, be took the first public opportunity of giving
three cheers for himself and his own iodependence.
How gratifying this gracious anwouncoment must
be to the PRENIIIR, and those, if there are still
any, about him who retain a remembrance of the
principles they have abandoned, we need not pause
to inquire. But Lord Zsrireo is a gentleman,
and when he agrees to swallow a Tory he makes
up his mind, we fumes% to swallow him bones
and all.