The Express.
London, England, 1850-07-23 00:00:00

THE POST-OFFICE.

On the order of the day tee the oomaittee of supply beiag
read,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished to
take that opportunity of making a statement of rather a per-
sonal character. A gentleman, whose conduct had been Im-
pugned on a former seeming by the bon. and learned am-
ber for Youghal—he meant Me. Rewland Ifitl—had written
to him (the Chancellor of the Eschequer) t i give the =net
gmrquivocal denial to the thug's et tipprertion and partiality
wh,:k had been made against him in a former debate. Ile
did not mean to go into the detail., but inertly to mention
thee he bad received the contradi lion.
Mr. ANSTEY said that in every statement he had made
he wet borne out by documentary evidence, rime of it in
Mr. Hill's own handwriting. If the committee had been
started he could have proved a case inhoitely worm than
that which he had stated. (A laugh.
BRITISH GUIANA.
Mr. HUME, referring to the last deepatehet transmitted
from British Gnaws, produced many alterations of grievance
an the part of the colonist., which he trace t to till tomtits-
ties of the colony, where the sawing vote given to the governor
tendered him practically &Salute and independent of c
Be should like to know what would the people af
England say to a legisistiv• assembly constructed like
tree tun of Polley, it, which the prime minister should have
the ca. inp vei e on all questions. (Heir, hear.) The hon.
mem,ver proceeded to reed the proceedings of the meeting to
which he hid before • blind, but the noise prevailing in the
house prevented our catching more than their general pur-
port. The people complained theft they were reed from
Dewt,,eg street, and nut In accordance with their own with, I
or feelings, and asked for instinsUons similar to those of Bar-

heroes, Jamaica, if Canada. Several reseleglexa embodying
these opinions were agreed to sad torwanied to Govern. I
Bady. He (Mr. Hear) did net with le details thelhoess
with leagtheeed details, hat would meetly express his hope
that the hoer would mot let the Carle be rebid by the
poliey of this country. They wished to hey, the macro-
meet of their pecuniary &Beim, sad it lid appear extremely
hard that each ennui should be refused to them. The hoe.
member eoesehrted by moviag for the production of all
gashes that might have been rewired at the Voiotia! Mike
keel British Gunk oleos May last.
Lard J. RUSSELL rid that est despatches had bee re-
Weed from Unless rase May last that would answer the
deseriptiou re by the his. member and his hoe. Irked
the Uader for the Cobras had not is yet had
time to read thou which bad been remised. He lured, 11
however, that his hon. friend hal eat mule the buss so.
quieted with the real facts of the case, or the difficulties
with wider the meteor hu to contend. The party who
were damenring were sot a perdu reform party, but •
due Mignesky, and their real grin: ace was that the !ram-
ekins had been exceeded by tie governor. It was gait.
tree that this party, (ladies themselves obliged to resort to
epos shake, were now asking for a constitution similar to
that pestered by other (*lonise The hon. member for
Ekstrom hal stated that the governor, having the midair
TOW, was enabled to cuskima any attempt made at re-
forms I. the Court of Policy ; but the car in point
bore completely ia tke opposite direction. It appeared
that a motion was mad* for a new form of legislative
council, and the Governor, this Chief Justice, and the Co-
lonial Secretary declined to vote, thus esabling the gentle
mu who made the motion to carry it. It was sot tree,
therefore, that the G , by his canker vote, was in the
habit of dandies all meow for reform. With regard to the
statement he had made early is the session, he was still pre
Bred to say that he should be glad to ars the franchises of
ritish Guiana extended; and he looked forward to an early
future when the colony would be governed by •locally-eleeted
Hour of Assembly. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. RUNE said, that as the despatches had not as yet
arrived, sad after what bed fallen from the 'noble lord, be
was willing to withdrew his motion.
L sad J. RUSSELL said it must be negatived, not with-
draw..

Mga
PORTEN= CLAIMS.

Mr. HUTT called the attentioa of the Ikons* to the yeti-
tioa of Mr. G. C. Redman, with nference to his Porteedie
dams, sad, after panties out the injury he had sustained,
was about to voided, with a motion, from which, however,
he was debarred by the rates of the house.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, without
eateries into the merits of the case, &dams.. that Mr. Red-
man had suffered considerate loss, but he hod no claims
upon the goveramest.
Alter some remarks fro. Mr. Astionby, Mr. New-
agate, and Sir Charles Boreal, the subject
After a few words from Sir C. Nuattett, the conversation
dropped, and the house west into Cummins of
SUPPLY—CIVIL SERVICE ESTIMATES.

The first rota proposed wee 41,7301 , to defray the charge
of the government of New Zealand.
Mr. AO LIONBY said he did not rite to oppose the vote,
for he was aware of the clxcamstances nadir which the
money was required ; but he wished not to be thereby pre.
eluded from calling attention to other matters connected with
New Zealand. (Hear.) His object now was to ask his hon.
friend the Underfiecretary for the Colonies whether the
grants for the bishop and clergy contained in this vote were
to be permanent ?
Mr. HAWES ob d that, as the matter stood at pre-
sent, the grants fer the bishop, cbspl.ins, and schcols were
permanent, but as there was a prospect of representative in-
stitutions being established in the colony, he could not say
how far this country would remain responsible for these
charges.
Mr. HUME crnsidered that this country had enough to
do to maintain its own ecclesiastical erstabli•hmeuts, and that
to begin paying for the colonial establithments was most ob
jectionable. lie would move that the vow be reduced by
6001., the amount of the bishop's allowance. (Hear,)
Sir H. INOLIS bore testimony to the high character of
the bishop for piety, :sal, end general efficiency, and urged
that while the mother country administered the affsies of a
colony, she was bound to provide the means of religious
instruct:en.

-liSitiIIONBY should regret very much if the tom.
mires aaaented to the amendment. The Bishop of New Zee
land had more isportaat wed onerous der in entrusted to him
than perhaps suy other colsnial bishop; and though he thought
Dr. Sslwyn had been occasionally mistaken, and had
taken a coons hostile to the views and interests of the
New Zealand C scapany, he believed a more zealous,
honourable, and conscientious man could not be found
—(hear, hear)—lnd the trouble he had taken, and the gooi
he had done in assisting ia t►e civiii'ation of the 'swivel,
could not be too sighly commended He hoped his hoe.
friend would not divide on his amendment.

Mr. HUMS objected to the principle of voting money for
the support of the occiesiseticsi ostablisbotoods of the colo-
aim

Lord J. RUSSELL contended that if the hon. member
for Montrose opposed the vote on the grait.d that they
•ere now beginning for the first time to support a church
establishment in the colonies, it was not tena►le ; for from
the year 1812 uatil the present time a vote had been taken
every year for this pumas. This was a case wholly diffe-
rent (rem that of the North American colonies, which having
been in ezatenct f.ir many years, and hay.na the adulated. co
popular institution., were ab:e to support their own church
establishment; bet in the eau of New Zealand 1: had been
represented to him by the New Zealand Company and
others that it would tend to the settlement of the colony if
the missionaries and eurch ministate were under the super-
iatendence of a proper and efficient ruler appointed by the
government, and the government concurring in that view
Dr. Selwyn had been appointed. Aad without going into
the question of whether we duty was worth 6001. a year or
not, he though the cults of civilisation had been much pro-
moted by having a bishop there, mai he thougtt it was
better to pay that amount for a bishop thin a consider.bly
larger sum for the salaries of number of police magistrates.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. 111:1fE suggested that it might be better to adopt at
once the old catholic rule of the Spanish and Portuguese, to
which we seemed fast approaching, of appointing a bishop as
the first act of colonisation.

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Hr. E. G. HOWARD objected to intuiting the cohnial
eetabliahments while we were cutting down in every other
direction.
Mr. KERSHAW said a few words in favour of the amend-
ment, and
The committee divided—
For Mr. Hass amendment 24
For the original vote 5O-66
The vote was then agreed to.

On the next rot-, 20,0301. for the establishment at Hong-
Kong,
Mr. SCOTT objected that this vote, though 5.0031. Tres
than that of last year, was still wholly disproportionate to
the wants of the colony. He admitted that Hong Kong
wu of some importance as a military station, but the ground
of hoopla; up this expensive establishment was, that it was
necessary for the penmen of trade. The fact was that there
was no trade at Hong Kong; the great trading stations bring
Whampos and Shanghai, the one being 90 and the ether
TO mi!es distant. Tile population of Hong Kong was only
20,000 g Ily, though in consequence of the late disturb.
anus in the Portuguese colony it had recently increased to
28,000. The salary of the governor WAS wholly dispropor
Urinate to any services he could have to perform, and was
equal to that of the prime minister of this country, and
larger than that of almost any other governor, except that of
Canada. Then there was a most expensive consular
establishment in China costing 33,0031. per annum, while
the whole of our consular establishments in all the rest of
the world put together cost only 102,0091. The governor,
in his double capacity of governor and superintendent of
trade, received no less than 6 00W a year. It bad been said
the reason why this high salary was paid was to enable him
to maintain a high position in the eyi s of the Chinese, but
the truth was, there was no Chinese of any respectability re-
siding within 100 miles of Hoag-Kong. England was paying
an immense amount, because of the want of respectability on
the part of the Ciliate*. The amount we paid the Governor
of Heligoland was 6001. The amount ma ware now ring to
vote the (burner of Hong-Kong was 6,0301. This was an
enormous salary, considering that we only paid the
Governor of New Zealand 2,0001. Then, we paid tle
side-de-camp of the Governor of Hoeg-Kong 3001 ; the
Colonial Secretary and his department cost 3,6.541. ; making
in all 10,000!. per annum, and this for toe little miserable
place of Hong Kong, when only ten British Illerehaista, one
Danish meekest, two or three agents for American houses,
and out German sgent resided. (lieu, hear.) The revenge
of the colony the year before last was 24,0001 ; this year It
was 23,0001. ; eo that the revenue was going on at a dhoti-
nieking rate. The cat of collecting the 23,00 W was 2,3141,
or about 10 per cent. Them we paid fur the surveyor.
general's department at Hong Ku, 1,4531., or about 300
per cent., the whole of the mousy passing through that de-
partment last year being 6001. The harbour muter and
his department cut 1,1671 , and his duties were discharged by
a Lasear, who wrote down the Amer dike few 'fuels that
anchored at Hong-Kong, and who received 3001. • year for
discharging the duty. But there was a sill more formidable
mown. For law and justice in the colony is which the
Hareem inhabitants numbered about 600, we paid
15,3161 6s. Bd. Was there ever anything more monstrous
than this io the annals of justice, equity, or erravagance?
(Hear, bear.) The population amsunted to 28,000; so
BM law sad justice cut at the rate of 12s. per haul. Then,
we paid tee chief justice at Hong-Kong 3,000/, and the
attorney-general 1,6001. The other departments net
2,9761. ; the chief magistrate received 9031 ; making is all
7,4761. This was totally independent of the out of gaols
and ran ; and the inefficiency of the gaols and police at
Hong Klee was matter of notoriety. S i inefficient were
they, that all the merchants were o'liged to keep police of
their own, and the roads at • short distance outside the
town were unsafe. The police and the gaols cost 2,3191.
Then, there was " ditto contingent," 3,1461. ; " ditto inci-
dental," 1,024/ ; rent of polies office, 4501. ; making in all
7,8421., which, together with the judicial department, made
15,3181. 65. 84. for justice alone. (Ilea) Mr. Indies
stated. in 1839, that in China peno: s were sufficiently
protected, that life and property were watched by
an excellent police, and that business was con-
ducted with u'.exampled fesility and singular good
faith Is general, but the reverse of all this was
at percent the ease. Hs admitted that the esti= le this
year was 5,0001. short of what It was lest year, bat he con-
tended that the extravagance and remained comparatively
untouched. He, therefore, moved as an amendment that
the estimate of 20,0001. be reduced to 15,000/.
Col. SIBTHORP expensed • kipe that his bon friend
would take the sense of the house on the very proper Mend-
went he had submitted. In addition to the extravagant
items already mentioned, there was another batch of them to
be found at page. 27 of the estimates. The department of
the chief superintendent at Hong Kong, for instance,
was 4,6751., gad the e meular department 21,0001. This was

the way the extra was divided. • Ilttl4 wee pat la
one pee, gad a lit • is another, sad la this way oven the
boa. nowther for Mostraes was es with with all lie
vie lases, taken =swarm
Mr. HAWKS said the obeetvelleas of the hoe. aced
last seismel did not apply to the este sew vadat semaidera-
ties. The spew* of the ken. samba foe Berwickehire
(Mr. Boots) bad immediate edema to It, and the object of
his assolmest was doubtless [steeled to hese a general
raductios dirieditere ea the government, be tillable' that
they lied not Wise looking as the east of the eatablithesent at
Hoag KM( with ea eye of vieilanee. The Minato, how-
ever, had Weft far larger tiled it was at present. Is 1846
the iota was 49,00 W. • in 1816, it was 36,0001.; is 1847.
31,0001. ; la 1848, 23,0001. • is 1849. 13,0001 ; and in the
peanut year it was reduced to 20,0001. ; the difference bi..
tweets the vote la 1843 and 1860 being no lase than
29,0004 (Hero, hear.) Tads was stet all. The internal
admilistraties of the calmly had beat earefully watched
over, owl the result was, that several teluctioos and *boll-
Sea of salaries had been effected to Abe amount of 1,8721.
The het report from the governor stated that the
@Nosy was improving in miry respect, that there was
ea increase in the somber of its inhabitaata, an interns
also is the number of Chimes hostess erected during the
year, and that otateatment prevailed ; and therefore such a
document as this sompletay disproved some of the allege.
lions mede_by the hoe. mover of the amendment. (Hear.)
Mr. MITCHELL thought the items ss extravagant that
it was difilault to select any one of them that ought sot im-
mediately to be reduced. The object of giving these large sa-
laries was to send oat lords to fill the posts. They bad seat
oat • lord to Ceyloa (Lord Torrington), and what was the
result? Why that they bad got a vet, bad goverarr,
aad he wee satisfied that if they paid governors
fair and rueosable solarise they would obtain competent
men of besieges ; whereas, by girlies enormous salaries, they
would obtain lords, who merely wasted to breathe fresh air
in distant aolooles.

Mr. H. DRUMMOND thought that ths salaries at Hong
Kong were very large, and that the great reduction in ex-
penditure whisk had already takes plaos proved that it must
originally have bus enormous.
Mr. SPOONER said that the repoet whisk the hon. gen-
tlemen the Under-Secretary for the Colonies had alluded
to, went to show that a reduction In the commerce of Hong
Kong was to be expected rather then an Intension.
Mr. F. SCOTT said that the merchants of the colony
were of opinion that the sum of 17,6501. would be ample to
sitters the discharge of all the necessary duties.
Mr. PLOWDEN supported the vote, and said that the
expenses of the Chinese establishment under the But India
Company, considerably exceeded the amount charged by the
government is 1846.
Mr. HUME said that the colony of Hong Kong was alto-
gether an experiment, which it was supptse•l would tend to
extend the commerce wish China; but it had turned out to
be a failure, and the question was whether, as a mere mili-
tary port, a large a civil establishment was required. He
thought the time was coats when the expenditure might be
reduced one-half.
Viscount PALMERSTON said It was a mistake to look
at Hong King in the tame light as other colonies. Itehould
not be considered merely as a colcny, but as a port for the
'unpin of our trade witn China generally. When he framed
the instructions whisk were riven to Si, Henry Pottingrr,
when he went to China to make the , which he atter-
wards concludi dat Nasikin,it was his (Lord Paton rston'Oluty
to obtain information from every possible quar.er, and
he saw people from all parta who bad any knowledge of
China past or present, and among others frets wbom he re-
ceived valuable information wee Sir George Staunton. Two
thinos were pressed on him as of the Utlik(l4i importance, one
was that saves should be obtained to a large number of
ports in Chin', and that our intern onset should not be con-
fined to Cantos; and next, that seine insular port
should be established on the coast of China.
Chosen was at first fixed on, but it was fount to be too far
up, and objectionable on account eif the influence of the
" monsoon," and Hong Kong was chosen. So strong was
the opinicn as to the importance of an insular position, that
many persons doubted whether it would not be equivalent to
admission iota other ports besides Canton. We
had got both. Hong Kong, therefore, was not to
be considered merely is relation to the trade of that
port, although his boo. friend had shewn that it was in-
creasing the tonnage, which ►mounted to 293,000 in the late
year being 64,00) more than t►e year bef.te ; but it was to
be looked upset as aplace whence naval and military assi•t-
anee might be derived to support the merchants
media; in the different Chinese ports. Those who
knew what was going on in China knew that
our position is Canton was not very satisfactory,
and that there was a leel:ng of hostility towards us. It was
important that the merchants there should have at hand
British support to which they could lock for ani•tance. With
regard to 'slain, it was a matter, be admitted, which was
independent of the other qoastion. Let them look at the
average scale of salaries under the East India Company.
They were so much friend whet they now were, that by
comparison they were ecoootnicil. tin would 'men-
tion half-is d• vos colonial governors who were not mem-
bers of aristocratic families. There was Mr. Anderson (who
was made Sir Geo. Anderson for his merits) at the Mauritius;
Sir George they, no relation to his hon. friend the Secretary
far the Colonies, at New Zealand ; Mr. Gregory at the
Bahamas; Sir William Vrang at Aus.ralia ; Mr. Bonham at
Hong Yong; Mr. Higgirieon at Antigua; and Sir William
Cole brooks at B irbadt ea.

Mr. COBDEN said that • good deal of what had been
urged by the noble lord was an argument in favour
of the honourable gentleman opposite. It was said
that Hong Knog was to be consedered more as a mili-
tary port, or sort of " point ii'appui," for the protec-
tion of trade, than as • place of commercial importance.
But tha noble lord forgot that they were not voting the mill
tory, but the civil, estimates, end they would have to con-
sider hereafter the military and COMlllii•ariat departments, and
the expenses of the fleet. There was a Chiet Juries with 3,0001
a year, about the salary given to one of oer dignified Scotch
judges. Toere was an Attorney. General in England, and
therefore there must be an Attorney General there with
1,6001. a yet,. In this country there were police magi.
trate*, and there meat, therefore, be one there
at 9001. • year. Why a police magistrate with
1,0001. a year, and • clerk at 600 i., both super-
abundant salaries would be amp's for all that was
required, and the Chief Jostles and Attorney-General were
quite supererog story. He thought a cant had been made
out for • reduction of 6,0001. a year, and the house would
stultify it'elf it it did not agree to it.
Lord PALMERSTON said that the hon. gentleman
seemed to think that the Chief Justice and Atturney-Ge-
send were confined to Hour Rong, bat the courts of justice
had juriedieeion ever every part of the Chinese seas.
Mr. COBDEN—That was perfectly true. The head-
quarten of the judicial establishment was at Hong Kong,
hut look ho • differently matters were managed by the
United States, who had nearly as extensive a trade with
China as ourselves. They had a consul at each port with •
salary of 1,000 dollars a-year, who administered justife to all
American subjects, and thug they got done for 2001. a-year
what we paid • chief justice 3,0001. and • police magistrate
9001. a-year tor.
Mr. F. SCOTT said we had consuls at each Chines* port,
for discharging the same duties as the American consuls,
for which we paid 32,0001. a year. Some of them at Shang-
hai, 900 miles frAss the plate where the chief justice resided,
and where he had no duties to preform. Of the 29,000
inhabitants of Hung Kong, 27,000 were Chinese, none of
whom were allowed to act as jurymen, although trial by
jury was in force. This was, therefore, not only a case of
extravagance but cruel injustice.
After a few words from Mr. PLOWDEX and Alderman
SIDNZY

The hOuse then divided—
For the vote
Against
The vote was then agreed to.
LABUAN—SIR JAMES BROOKE.
_ .

Oa the vote of 6 ,9141., to dellay theexpenses
of this set.
Cement,
Mr. 'JUKE rose to repel some charge. which, in the course
of a former debate, had been made spinet the character of
Mr. Wyse, growing out of his connection with Sir James
Brooks. Much falsehood bad been uttered in that house
against the character of Mr. Wyse, and in support of the
character of Sir James Brooke. Mr. Wyse had certainly
been an agent of Bit James Brooke—he was hie political
agent and his commercial partner—in so fu, perhaps, he
deserved the reproach of the honourable member for West
Surrey (Mr. H. Drummond). But after the moment of the
1,500 Dyeing, an event which hie never been go:cued, and
the instructions authorising which had been produced,
Mr. Wyse terminated this political relationship. In a letter
to the noble lord at the head of the foreign department,
dated 31st October, 1848, be said—" I beg to acquaint
your lordship that I have terminated the political rela-
tionship between Sir James Brooke and myself." This
course was taken on account of Sir James Brooke having
made the attacks upon the Dyaks, and because Mr. Wyse
felt he could no longer be connected as a political agent
with one who could become a buemeer and plunderer, and
who could so completely forget the ties binding him to
humanity. It had sant been alleged against Mr.
Wye', that he had instigated public feeling here,
whilst at the same time, ha had, day by day,
urged B.r James Brooke to join in parnienbip with him.
Now, he held in hie hand a letter from Sir J. Brooke to Mr.
Wyse, dated the 14th March, 1843, urging him to establish a
trading company at &meek, and offering to make him a
punier to share in the profits. The honourable gentleman
then read the letter in question, in which Sir J. Brooke
sketched out the plan of a mercantile company with from
300,000 to 500,000 shares, the company to have full territo-
rial control over 8 rawak. The honourable gentleman also
read a letter from Sir J. Brooks, dated Sarawak, 20th Feb.,
1846, in which Sir James consented to Mr. Wyse becoming
his partner to share in the profits of his nsercan'ile transac-
tions at Sarawak, sod referred to sort., shipments of
antimony, which he had consigned to • mordant in London.
The honourable member next quoted another of Sir J.
Brooke's letters, dated the 17th March, 1845, following
up the preceding correspondence, in which a gen-
tleman, of the name of Respell,was appointed en.
periotendent of the trading corporation of Sarawak.
The honourable gentleman then proceeded : Be thought he
had quoted enough to meet the assertion that it was Mr.
Wyse who had pistoled Sir J. Brooke about the establish.
ment of the trading company. Why, he had aow in his hand
the ledger account of profit and loss between Ist April and
let September, 1846, which was ma le out by Mr. Roupell,
and signed by Sir J. Brooke. Yet it had hien said that Sir
J. Brooke had nothing whatever to do with trade ; that it was
a disinterested regard for the welfare of the natives that
alone actuated bim. Why, he believed that Sir J. Brooke
had had en eye to the " main chance" from tint to lest in
all these transactions. and that he entered into th,ns fur the

purpose of forwarding his own private Interests. In support of
his assertion', the hon. member then quoted a letter from Sir
J. Brooke, dated 30th Sept., 1011, to show that Sir James at
as early a period u that mu engaged in mercantile tranvc•
Ilona. Ho also toad another letter from Sir Jams to Mt.

Wyse in 1844, in which the writer stated that, elm • potted
of nearly thins yewsy he could clots hit assionat with tiara-
, wak whitest being • bar. It had been said that Sir James
Brooke had not bees desirous for a title • bet ha *mild show
a letter from Mr. Hrooko, dated Sarawak, 16 ► Marsh, 1842,
and addressed to a Mr. Johnetone, is whisk letter Mr.
Brooke, referring to his befog made ahe et a berate,
'stated that he did set ears about being 'wished; bet he
thought • baronets, would be very useful to him in that
part of the wield. The her. gentleman then said he
had felt onspeled I. refer teases private letters in Jamie'
to Mr. Wyss, who had boss !mocked, unjustly as he
thought, by _the Ma. gaideu epperite (Mr. Drummond).
' Mr. Wyse had ealy altered his opinion of 84 J. Brooke
when Its found the trod coarse which B.r James was per-
' ening towards the natives; and he (Mr. Home) considered
Kr. 'Wyse had taken the proper 0041110 of Informing the go-
vernment of what hid emeurred,sael deelaring that he could
not act icy knee. He (Kr. Home) believed that all the
I military operations against the smite tribei had Wen insti-
tuted by Sir James Brooke with • view to eoneentratiog all
the trade at Sarawak for his own advantage. He considered
the government had acted most improperly in placing him
in his prima podtion ; and he objected to the present vote,
among other moons, because it included 1,6001. a jun for
Sir James Brooks as governor of Labium, whilst the fact was
that Sir James was not resident is the colony last year, tats
was resident then at present.
Mr. AGLIONBY asked if this painful discussion was
to continue. He could not biases the bon. member for
reeding these letters; it was a retaliatory reassure, bat he
had never witasemo a more painfal scene in that house.
Min a few words Mr. fixtuatr, and from Mr. AOLIONST
in reply.
Mr. H. DRUSIMOND said it was not very fair to be
insinuating various charges at various times against a pub-
IM servant without it being passible to know what
cnarge he twain to bring forward. The first notice
of the honourable member for Montrose was inquiry
shoat the letter of the noble lord; the next to refuse
this grant to Lebuan. And be then same forward
boldly aad with same of his friends near him, and denied
point blank, that the iebabitants of them islands were pirahe,
or that if they were they bad not been caught in an act of
piracy. Another time he brought forward a Otsego that Sir
James Bro. kg was • trader, mid that his being so was un-
worthy of his petition as a servant of the crown. He had
now talked about trading, but had not said a word about the
impropriety of Sir James Brooks's conduct as a trader, so
that it teas imposaible to fix the bon. member with • single
thing they could grapple with. Toe bin. member
knew nothing of Sir Janus Brooke bat what
Mr. Wise had told him. There bad not a
stogie word beta published in this closer, except by Mr.
ani .hon infamous libels which had been sent to
every member of the house. He supposed the charge of
piracy had bees given sp. [Mr. Hums—Not at all, it Ins
not been inquired into Every traveller said they were
pirates. The Marchester Chamber of Commerce said so,
as did also the Commercial Association of Manthester, the
Glasgow Chamber of Commerce, the Liverpool E tst India
Anneiation, sad the Linden. East India Association. And