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of the Bank Mortar Act, on the 14th or 16th Dumber I
introduced this very bill, or rather a manly similar one,
for the admission of the Jews into parliament. That bill,
and all similar bills, bent been reported in the Giber hones of
parliament ; and it may be asked what prospect is there now
that the poison bill will in another place have a fats
different 61.111 that of its predecusote P (Opposition
chests.) To that question I should gumtree that
I have framed the bill in the most conciliatory
form possible ; that this house has at all times. with
one exception affirmed the principle of religious liberty
la favour of the Jews ; and that teat year the majority was far
greater that it had ever before been; and in the whole course
of legislation I have found teat repeated decisions et the
Housed Commons, ratified by ' majorities, have
always had in the end the greatest weight with the other
, House of Parliament. (Hoar, hear.) But yet Ido not wish
I to conceal from the bones my alt ea@ intention' on this sub-
ject. Is the mutt of last yap I wa• abroad by my hon.
sad learned friend the Attorney-Drawl that the act 6 and ,
6 William IV. entitled this house to hems a declaration to be
taken by members In Moe of the oath, should
think St ; sad on heating that opinion frost so distal
an ornament to his profession as the Attorney General I
thought it right to have the question examined by a select
committee of this house. The house mud to the gemina-
tion of a committee, and the quertion was therein thocoughly
debated. No witnesees wets examined, but the question
was thoroughly sifted by gentlemen beaming to the laird
profession. The result was udavetumble to the position
taken up by the Attorsey-Oseral ;• but at the some time
hostile
the najority wee a very maw one, eassiefing of
one original member of the emmitta sad two members of
the legal profanes, who hid been 'Unequally added.
My right hen. friend the member for Duitericli bad prepared
smoke which he wished lemma but which, owing to the
muse taken by the amenities, scald not be introduced. His
saki nee to the ailed that the two houses of lostilament
gess aninded k tidied eilnilinst IV, but that it wart
miedieet to age the po `state mhos se- eilhee.
couatitutional mum. should mow to be open for the
attainment of the object. New it was not my duty,
not being thairmata of the committee, to express any
opinion or to take say part in its diecoseions,
but certainly had I been caned on to give an
opinion, my opinion maid bus molly coincided
with that of the right hen. penman. (Rear, hoer) Sack
befog my opinion, it is unnecessary now to teepee the ene-
mata. I wctLown2 say that that areasoent wee Mid by the
Attorney with ell hie imel acidity tad than
hie usuideerneentesa, and that it met with the ccustreance
not only ot the right hon. member for Droitwich bat d the
right hen. member far Bucks, end al the noble kith@ mem
bee for Lyynsn.q together with the Lord Advocate, sad messy
other member, of this home. It our likordes
supported Ina speech of great ability end seatenem by the
bee. sad learned member for Battu Fortified
by them opinions, sad mauled by the argument
of the Attorney-Osnani, I said I should net think
It right to let the emetics drop &Another vithoutpledag
before the hour, whether or not to;slonki wloP4:=
peal of • declaration in dm of sit hi themes of
who object to the words of the oath alimensa. It Is set
for IMO to say bow the hoses will decide, bat I mat ceder
my own opinion to be that we have been perhaps somewhat
to blame in allowing the seat of a member of this house to be
dificuseed in courts of law. My belief is that that le a question
which by the constitution of this country the courts be-
low are hardly competent to decide and that as
it would be Impossible for them to entertain
the quake of whether • member bad been duly elected,
it is not competent for them to decide whether oar oaths have
bees properly taken. Bach wan the spirit In "filch the
House of Lords acted in as me of the Wenneykle peer-
age. (Hear, hear.) They may have been right or they may
have been wrong in their deaden, bat nobody has disputed
that It was In the empolince of the Howe of Lords, that
they were perfectly otappleat to decide, user her Majesty
had by Mars patent crested a peer, whether that peer had a
right to be received. (Rem, km.) In the swot way I believe
that the House of Commee em decide whether • member,
having taken an oath or deelaraties, is competent to a
seat in this house. (Hear, hem.) That, however, not being
the quake at present, I shell being la the bill. end es-
dsavour to obtain for it the omen of the whole legislature;
but for my part I will not waive the rights of the House of
Commons as 'wad by a high legal authority. (Harr, hen.
I beg now, sir, to mouths& loses be given to being is • bill
to substitute one oath for the three now in tue, and to relieve
by itspr pre
emedvia= profaning the Jewish eagles from
dese
8,, F. THRSIORR obeeued that it led bees errunged
that there should be no opposition to the Introdualee of the
bill, sad that the second reading should be djamed until
after Christmas ; but he entreated Lord J. Russell to puss
end consider the ourequences of a Inseam which would be
a stepping-atone to other innovations, to the adetiation of
Mshomedans and Hindus. He should, he said, resist the
mama in every stage, because be believed that, by the
adenosine of Jew. to the legislature, • fatal blow would be
given to a principle Manama with every department of
she State.
Mr. 11•11wyn and Mr. Cox supported the motion, which
was opposed by Mr. Bentinck end Mr. Newdegate.
Mr. PEASE was one of that who desired
that that Lou.. should always be Christian, es it
wee always intended to be; bet he took a &Se-
rest view of the elemente and effects of Christianity
to that which bad Leon enunciated by some hen. guadoes.
Oa the present, or at art on previous, ocasions, when this
subject wee under dieestadoe, the km. and lamed mem-
ber (Sir F. Theeiger) reviewed the venues guards sad
forms the law had put upon pankreat and on the other te-
ethed's' of the country kor the repose of isrearving its
Christianity; but, es it appeared to him (lir. Pease) the
bon. and learned gentleman gm to those guards and areas
a higher place than they were mined to. It writhe memo
of the principle of Christianity that had from time te time
mused the house to put those forma and guards fa-
ward, as necessary to its good order. But now they
were told that if they let go the foam, which was but the
evidence of the principle, they would let go the prin-
ciple. He took it that it wee Christianity that bad induced
the country to elect a Christian home of parliament , and that
had induced that parlament to frame suitable guards for its
good government; but he was not to be told that if they rip
moved those muds they would strike at the smears of
Christianity. If be understood Christianity—end he was
sorry to say it me very little he did understand it—it wee a
principle that had no *mean to fear the Jew. (Cheers.) If
the Jew were ten times as rich—ten times more leered—
and of ten times more influence in the acid scale than be was
—my Chriettaaity is nothing (said the hon. member) if lam not
dale to say to hint, my principle shall outlive your
!Maids, the dispensation of Christ shall outlive the dis-
perse= that went before it. (Cheers.) I have listened
with pain to the small amount of vital power that seem to be
attributed to Christianity by the opponents of this meautre.
We have been told that "one *ball chase a thoomeed, and
two shell put ten clamed to eight"—(hear)—God If we had
the faith of the martyrs of the pest we should adopt that
language. I aspect the Jew as my neighbour and es my
friend-+e one who has the ems right to hold hie sentiments
as I have to hold mia•—(hear)—sad I 'aspect him oleo for
the moaner in which he has fulfilled many dices of trust
and responsibility in which he has been placed. But be that
se it may, I desire to maintain my own lath, and I Mite
also think may be led to embrace ■ purer and • higher faith
than that be now holds. (Hear.) It is due to those re-
plant to ay that they are able to attribute to the noble lord
very differemt maim from thaw which have been attributed
to him by kn. gentlemen opposite. In the north of Eng-
lead yen will hear it said that through tea yam. and twice
ten years, we have known the noble lord a the true and ur
campeondaing friend of religious liberty, sad it is not neces-
sary now to enviers up insinuations of mean and in/did
mains which we Imo., he is incapable of. (Her.) With
egged to the realm for following the come which the
noble lord slow, en the honeet end consistent member for
Lattice, which be is, could take. (Cheers.) For myrelf it is
my desire to belong to that large and increasing majerity of
this house which cam to do right and feare to do wrong;
and of this I em convinced, that whatever the court, of law
or say other body may do. that majority will receive the ap-
probation of the people of England. (Cheers.)
Mr. I. BCTT (who spoke from the back beeches below
the ministerial gangway) said that if a division were taken
he should vote with the noble lued. It was true be bad
voted against a measure to admit Jews to parliament on •
former «xenon because he thought it might hare • tendency
to interfere with the Christian character of the House of
Commons, but Amber refection had convinced him that it
would have no each yegult. The hen. and leered gentle-
man (Sir P. Thesigel bad mid that to admit Jews to the
legislature wool& nneatithinise the nation, but in his (Mr.
Bads) view the Christian character of the nation rested
upon gomethieg my different to • plum in an act at par-
liament, from what' Beelterter did not @brink, and ninth
Gibbon sad es glibly as the Met pious Christian. (Cheers.)
He believed that Christianity rested ear its prevalence In the
untie. sad its preens. by the satire, and an the result of thst
prevalence aM practice Ulm laws by means of which
Christianity was interwoven with all our institutions ; sad
he believed that in voting fur this measure he Ist Ming on
the Christian principle, by tales to others as hisireed they
' should do unto him; and that he should better uphold
Christianity by such a mune then by the retention of •
useless keen wage mockery of ~ph, plailb ease
of lax accretes(' would adopt, sad width was • etentaing
blab to man of higher end we. wear estione
hip. On thou grounds, whenever this question was
brought to • division, he should vote for it, (Hear, tsar.)
Mr. B. STANHOPE opposed the motion.
Mr. GRIFFITH viewed parliament se • great national
muff assembled chiefly for the althea/Rion of tempand
bunnies, and from which no representative of • national
interest should be excluded merely on account of his reli-
gions faith.
Mr. WALTER also supported the bill, contending that
the Christianity of the nation or of the legislature must be
miaterned by very different inflames than those derived
from an act of parliament.
Mr. ADAMS mound the pan attempt to decide the
question by a bare vote of the haus, and gave mom expla-
nations respecting the diecuasions is committee on the sub-

Mot duds( the lad smite. He opposed the medals before
the hones, sad condemned the precipitancy with which the
subject had been introduced.
•
Lord J. RUSSELL, in a general reply, vindicated the
course be had pursued by bringing forward his bill daring
this preliminary asseice of parhament. He had consented to
deter thesecond reading of the measure until time had been
afforded for its deliberate consideration.
After a taw words from Mr. Coningham, Mr. Newdegate,
and Mr. &mart, the motion wu agreed to, end the house
having ammesd, Llvs one given to bring in the bill.
THE PUBLIC HEALTH ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Mr. COWPER asked leave to introduce the same bill
which wee read a third time but session. He wee anxious
that it should not be upped to the same misfortune ea
betel it on the former occasion, sod therefore he had taken
the earliest opportunity of introducing it, and be trusted
there would be time during the session to consider it. The
general purport of the bill was to provide that every town
in England, great or small, should have the opportunity
of acquiring without any considerable cost or difficulty a
local representative government, armed with sufficient power
to preside structural works and to make all such arrange-
mega as might be necessary to provide for unitary improve-
mew. Manufactures end particular branches of industry
caused the very rapid growth ot towns. Mancheeter,Binning-
ham. and the assurer parts of the metropolis had aocumu-
latsd large populations ; and it . frequently happened that
houses were built without any general piste and frequently
abutted uppoon open ditches, from which the inhatienats in-
haled noxious vapours. The reads she were not, in many
instances, paved, and unless the towns ware lugs there was
no orpneation on that sob)** end the only way of obtain-
leg such orgenhatke was the inconueleut nos of getting a
Iseal sta. Them evil. would be remedied by tkda bill.
A few observations were made by Mr. AT &TON end Sir
A. Evrox, and lam wee given to introduce the but.
SIR H. HAVELOCK'S AN VITT BILL.
. ead the
tirraitti eat
ensessed .• • • _44
I.nec„.in this pesolicsizzonition of the gallant arvices rens
•
decd by ileums Hs
Kr. BOWTHR considered the rowan* utterly inelaquee.
• both se regarded the pension granted and the titular dignity
awarded to the officer in question. He gave notice Get •'
whoa the bill was in committee he should move an assied. •
melt continuing the annuity to Captain Havelock.
Sir C. NAPIER expressed similar opinions respecting the
phi ot the great. He proceeded to remark upon
various ints oceneeted with ths transport berries and the
general position of affairs in India.
Kr. P. O'Brien, Sir H. Verney, Mr. Ci,..Ciipt. Scott,
Sir F. Smith, and other member* hub, sro
The bin was reeda seemed time, and ordered for committal
this emeing.
The house adjeared at half-past S o'clock.