The Express.
London, England, 1850-08-06 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 6, 1850.

John Raga MI is every way evaded his duty, especially
as respedisil own coastitetate, the titling of Leaks,
wboatiobli me has able to rely on him, of all milk si
sari, • Mar charging the AtioneyeGeneigal via
sit
MEM of Lords hi a most invidious light, le=
to P. Sir R. leglie, by seseseing that the
of this egiuntry were net to be aught with mit a cobweb so
Me name of Cheistianity. That house wee so mere to be
milled a Christian hose, than it would deserve to be ailed
a Jewish hones when the Boron Rot beehild bad taken his
seat. but the @Gantry undenteed the trustiest. As foe the
oaths, he gontonded that the bares had takes thus, sidi-
suloos as they were, to all intents and purposes. Abet
answering the AtionseyeGaneral at fionaiderable length, he
' tomeluded by announcing that he should glee his support to
Mr. Hume,. amendment.
Mr. REYNOLDS (amid the interruptions of the halm,
which would only endure the hoeourable member's rambling
harangue uader the prenum of his riposted motions for ad-
journment) describes himmit as an "em incipated lava "
and vituperated all pasties In the liscattion. In exposers
of the futility of the parliamentary oaths, he declared that
they were token, to his knowledge,by gentlemen who believed
neither In the Old nor the Now Testament, and being called
on for '' names," said that it would iejure those persons to
name Mere, but if he survived them he would reveal the
secret as soon as they should be dead.
Mr. P. WOOD could not agree to a resolu•ion which de.
coed what so large a minority of the house had affirmed,
namely, that Bares Itotheebild had takes the oaths. His
arguments had not been answered. He was opposed to
tampering with the words of oaths, but there were other
Utioga which it was dangerous to tamper with, namely. the
privileges of that house, and the rights of electors. there
was net a court of justice I. the country whisk would come
to the decides which this haus', sitting judicially. wasarked
to come ti. He announced that Mr. Charles Wyno, who
was perhaps the most learned of all then who had studied
puliannatary law and practice, hilly conferred with hint in
his view of the nee, and nothing but ilium preveated his
coming down and valise for that view.
The SOLICITOR-OE:1E11AL had, after patient Mem
tigati m, been able to come only to one conclusion, namely,
' that the words omitted by Boon Rotheehild formed a ash-
Mantles part of the oath in which they occurred, cad there-
fore that the bane had sot takes the oaths. The oath was
framed to exclude Roman catholice, who might eatertage
the jesuitical doctrine that oaths might bar taken with mental
reservation, and he would ask whether a catholic would
have been allowed to take the oath, omitting the words ob
jetted to ? lie Mee contended that in every Court of E ig•
land &special exception, as is the Qaaker'e ease, would be
held to support an entirely opposite doctrine to that which
bad been advanced upon it. The house was in a false posie
tioa, and ought to adopt a manly and bold course, and either
admit the baron or refuse to admit hire. The law was in
an anomilms condition, and, thinking that it ought to he
amended, he advomted the resolutions proposed by the
Attorney-Genteel.
Mr. BRIGHT read the declaration made by Quaker mem-
bers, and showed that most important and substantial parts
of the oath. were omitted is their favour, and asked whether
one•tenth pert of so serious an alteration wan asked for Baron
Rothschild ?
Mr. tiOtILBURN disputed the accuracy of Mr. Bright's
gatemout, and declared mat the holes had never agreed to
me principle of altering the substantial portions of oaths.
The house then divided.
For Kr. Hume's amendment
ateitinst it 163-62
On returning to the gallery Mr. AllialLY was endeavour-
ing to address the house, amidst stormy cries of " Divide."
The hon. gentleman appeared to be explaining the nature
of the oath taken by Masoulmen, as ciao the form of admi-
nistrative. The (lacer of justice held the Koren over the
head of the atteatieg Uillelllo3llll, who recited the form of
oath, " then is no God but Gad, and Dishonest is hie pro-
phet." (Laughter, and cries of " Divide.")
The house nisi& divided on No. 1 id the resolutions sub-
mitted by the Attorneo•General.
For the resolution . .
Against it
Mr. V SMITH booed, after what bed fallen from the
Attorney-General in the solos of the debate, that the oath
of abjuration wcu'd be apeeddy taken into considere'iou by
her Majesty', ministers, and so framed or amended that boo.
member* on taking it would is reality undentand and
know what they were subscribing to. (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said that before he replied to the oh-
servatioaa of hie right hon. friend (Mr. Smith), he would '
take that opp ertunity of saying, that as the house sat so
late (halt-pmt four o'clock), it would be the most convenient
course it it continued to sit on until after the commis/toe
aid then adjourn for two hours. (Hear, hear.) In
answer to his right bon. friend, he begged to as, that the
discussions which had taken place had brought most pro-
enioently is view the real difficulties which steed in the way
of a Jew taking the oaths :moire d to be taken by hon.
gentlemen on being admitted rum inhere. (Hear, hear) These
difficulties re solved theme Ives into this, that the house ap.
proved of the mode of 'wearing 's the Old Testament. (Hear)
A Jew had no objection to taking the oath of allegiance
or the oath of supremacy ; and the ooly point on which an
obstacle had arisen occurred in the lifter part of the oath of ab-
juration. (Hear.) That being the only matter objectionable to
an individual who had been twice elected to sit in that
house, it was desirable that it should be considered distinctly
and of itself. (Hear, hear ) He admitted the cerrectuess of
the objections of his hon. friend (Mr. Smith) with regard to
the provisions of the other oaths. The oath of supremacy
was founded on apprehended danger to the crown, accord-
ing to the belief held in the reign of Elizabeth, and was
framed 'gibed such dangers as existed in the reigns of Anne
and George I. ; but the wording of the oath did cot apply
to the present day. (Loud crift of " Hear, hear.") It was
a matter deserving the consideration of the house ; and, con-
sequently, should not be mixed up with the variety of discus-
sions, as well as matters discussed that had of late ocenpied
the attention of the house. (Hear, hear.) It was a ques-
tion of much importance, and the *letter. of the City et
London regarding it in that light, he (Lord J. Hawn )
would, therefore, regret very much it is consideration should
be mixed up with that given to any other question. (Laud
cries of " Hear, hear.")
Mr. GOULBURN said that whether they passed the
resolutions Men submitted to them or not, a time would
Came next session when they would have full opportunity of
stating their opinions on the matter. (Hear, hear.) Fur
his part he should enter his protest against the resolutioca,
not merely against the admi.aion of Jews to that home, but
also 'rinse she declaration of consideration in the next res.
1 sion. (" Hear, hear," and cries of "divide.") Ile
thought it impolitic to enter into the pledge required by the
resolutions; and he also protested against the propriety of
altering the law to facilitate the admission of Jews to ver-
b taint. reserving to himself the right of stating his reasons
on the Soler opportunity. (" Divide, divide.")
Mr. BRIGHT *greed w:th much that fell from the right
hon. gentleman, but he looked on these resolutions more
with regard to their hold on the government than he did to
their hold on that house. (Hear, hear ) He therefor •
wanted to know from the noble lord at the head of the at.
nistry, for the satisfaction of the public in general and of the
constituency of the City of London in particular, if the
government, as a government intended to take up this
question of the admission to parliament of Jews, and if they
were prepared to stand or fall by the issue of the question ?
(Loud cries of " hear, hear.") For Lis part he (Mr. Bright)
would not give the snap of a tinier for the resolutions soles
that the noble lord (Lord J. Rumen) understood them Is
that sense. (Renewed cries of " her, hear," with cheers.) 1
After a few words from Mr. Hume, by way of comment on
the verbal construczioa of the oath of abjuration, which
were quits inaudible in the gallery, owing to the din that
prevailed.
Mr. AOLIONBY rote to address the house, hut was
received with a storm of shouting, cries of " oh, oh !" with
" divide, divide." The hon. gentleman after gesticulating
for a few seconds resumed hie seat.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL mid there were throe
requisites to be observed in the oaths, namely, the substance,
the form of words, and the meaner of taking. It was the
form of words that excluded the hon. gentleman the mem-
ber for the City of London (Baron de Rothschild) from
taking his seat in that hoses ; and therefore he (the Attor-
ney-General) weed/sinus of altering that form of weeds in
the next session, for which purpose he introduced his resolu-
tions, which were then before them. (" Divide, divide.")
The house again divided on fie second resolution.
POT the second resolution

ARa7sel it lO6-36
ROMAN CATHOLIC COLONIAL BISHOPS.
Sir R. INOLIS save notice that to-nrwrow (this day) he
would put a question to the Under Secretary of State for the
Colonies in reference to Reel Orey's circular to the co-
lonial soTerson respectiag Rome. catholic bishops in the
easels&
_ROYAL ASSENT.

Iu INOCledlliell With • 09011110L111 Bit OR through the I.l.lter
of the Sleek Rod, the bolas then attended the House of
Peers to hear the royal assent given by oscamission to several
The house adjourned at a quarter past 5 till 7 o'clock.
The hoses masesenhled at seven ***lock.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.

Catnoa Russ.—By Mr. COI3DEN, from s methodist
oengmation, and from several places in Yorkshire, spins,
church rates.
TEE NEW STREET FROM FARRINODON•STREET
TO CLERKEN WELL.

Lord D. STUART said he had to ask a question of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer respecting the new street hum
Farringdon-etrest to Cleikenwsll. The street was begun ten
years ego, but bed not been completed for want of funds.
Be understood that the Treasury bad advanced 6,000 t. in
furtherance of the object, and be wished to ask the right
bon. gentleman whether his attention had been called to the
ruliirect. The act creating the conanimion would shortly
ex e. Was it is contemplation to renew it ?
be CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that
the Treasury bed net advanced any swim for the purpose.
His Windom bad been celled to the subject, and measures
were in contemplation which he hoped would lead to the
carrying out of the project.
THE POST-OFFICE IN LIVERPOOL.
Mr. CARDWELL said the Treasury were about to build
• new part-oMee la Liverpool, and meetings had been held
to rememetrate spinet the proposed site. He asked the
Chanson.' of the Exelteque whether it was intended to
weevers in it
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that
the site fixed epee would. it was considered, afford the
greatest aceommodatien; sod although many people In
Liverpool did not think it the best, upon the whole be
thought the nest adefeable course would be to build it upon
that site.
BRITISH SHIPPING IN THE PORTS OF SPAIN.
Mr. ANDERSON asked Viscount Palmerton whether
he would have any objection to lay on tho table of the hone*
• ',Pr of may emPielmeassee w•ish he ma
have had with
the omelet% government, relative to the differential duties
levied ea British /hippies( is the ports of Smin. And whe
ther it is the tetssdost of her Majesty's goyesanseet, he the