The Express.
London, England, 1850-03-23 00:00:00

• Sir W. MOLES WORTH said • very bean responsibility
, hang ear bestrarable samba, en both sides •f the
Muse, sad ha tented a peeper seas of that rapes-
I sibility amid blame then im thole Wes
•%pea tles steam under thole . The
• alas
fat the immedisto slosilindlos .1 the ten-
t alas as, what mad be the ben San of geneeseseat ha
the Ausisa Wear 1 To awellar that stestia, it up. peered that they ought lint to aqua what wen the kW-
tunas whisk tbscry sad artisan hawed to be the
6 beet fee dollar semessitk• et Iloglkit • • cod haviag
maga that nisei= le the basttibilities they
nriessejim le that wits Wee imentatiess which that
jadrosest preseageed to ham hiss the beet; ar
i mar to guard against the masegasaisee acmes la jag-
, nos; mod in order also that the wiataties of a solos,
r night Weise with its Was* eiremmassese, they ought
isompeerer these Wake to shot sad maid
hiehals liens *lda they use To this la attached
great impartages. Tbe right hem. • am (Mr. Lan'.
then) •INNl•tei to that. Ho (Sir W. Meletwurth) might,
theresen,meume weal antedate la a bill kw "abetter
goverament of the Aweallion soissite, nese might to be a
praisles empowering lie eekedie silos the institutions,
which, in the Ins are bawd Ike them.
The questioa at hems was, bite, what woo the best form
, of samosa ter the eelealse le ms with ? With
what esnaltslat might they 'UM Owl Into repreoenative
existents ? N. regsatell. with that esaintenen whisk shay
end aperients had rated to he best In dealer rowan-
nines. This whim& swarm to bin to be almost sell.
*Tidiest ; bulbs tMtteem gentleman wad to *saw it.
F rit was propsasl to an these &denim with a legislators
• area of • dens dasher, in WWI oat-third of no
na- shin were so be notalaated by the Colonial atom. and
in fact wen to hold their mate at she will a the Coloolah
allot ; that was to say, the noble lord, the ',seemed
author of the Batons Bill, proposed to start Wee trilogies
with a hems of legitimate similar to what the Helm of
Cameos would be if we were to ropes' the Reform Bill.
-imams 110 thaw and Old Swats, sad place the 220
seam at the disposal of the saiaistu of the day. flnah a eon.
litigation was absurd in theory all ezperieses testified
simian it ; sad Ito believed every authority mademsted
, Bat ithad been said that their aoloake would Wm the power
, to amend their oonstitatioue —that was to say, it was
to start them with • bad alsetituties spa reposed
that they would have the pear to Madge
' into • 'rood constitution at sow fame paned.
Wm that the pulVsf a m
to ama ? Tare was an old sad
true maxim, a • ble theealosiee, early, "bier a
child is the way • Wald go." (Laughter.) Toat wain
was sow reversed. The sable lad would rear his eolaial
eeildreg is the way 'boy should natio, sad Ina to accithat
faisetties them right. I. oppositioa to theta& chamber se
proposed, the how and lamed gontlesmo, the member for
bleaburst, proposed that the legidature a the Australian
Waits should consist of two chamber& So far he (Sir
Wm. Molesworth) mned with the hon. and lamed gentle-
, man, sad should vote fa his motion, whisk, if curled,
would only pledge the cassia.. to the opinion that the
legislature, to be eastituted is the Anstralian masa,
should 'Witt of two sham ten • and would not is any will,
pledge the muusittos with regard to the Is. of the two
ambers. The how sad leaned gentleman inteeda sub-
sequently to propose that one et the shanben should be
nominated. ;meat point he (Sir W. Moles-
worth) entireld with him, gad intesited to propose
that loth clashmo shield be elective. But it it said by tat
right hon. gentians. (Mr. Lawton) that then are spe-
vial reasons why, is the Australian colonise, the lmislatere
should coast of • emote clasher ; these op eial numbs, as
fare New South Wales Woe was coaseraa, might be
stated is a very few words. It was stated that the tomtits
lion of a colony ought to be framed is sesordases with
the wishes of its inhabitants. It was asserted
that the inhabitants of Nu r Birth Wales were
well satisfied with the present conaltutioe ; that
they maned it to any tulp r fora' of goveraraent ; and
that, if they should wish to Mange it, they could gratify
their wishes icier the provialoas of this bill. Thous arra.
mats were clear and distinct—whether they were valid or
sot he would presently consider. But, supposing for a a-
mens that they were valid, a would ark by what process of
remosisg was the conalusioa arrived at that parliament
ought to give the constitution of New South Wales to the
other four Australian colonies? It might be • fair argu-
ment to say that as parliament had gine a count u ion
ti Ni, South Wales, though Is so doing it had com-
mitted • gnat mistake and framed a very bad
cocetitution, yet it ought not to clews that
constitution without Mt content of the Inhabitant of
the colony. That might be a fair argument, bat surely it
was an absurd argusteat to say that because parliament had
made • mistake with regard to New South Wales, it ought
to make few similar mistakes with regard to four other
camas. He mated it could net be wise policy to start •
colony with • bad oenwitation; that wee fa a wrogg
dl-
ration, as the plea that it would have the power to
blunder hereafter a • right direction. The wise policy
would be to give the missy hat the beginning
those instintticas Wish reason cod spacious
had prated to be the best, and if—with delibe-
rate folly the colony should wish to change them for
to went, permission to do ao should be granted. It
said not be 'laded that it gas of importune that all the
Australiaa salmi's should have idiotically the same
'attitudes', bemuse by the bill they were to be empowered
to Wan their instinitions, and therefore to make them
differ if they pleased. Lastly, there was not ea tittle of
evident* to show that either Victoria or Via Diemea's
Lead, sr South Australia, or Western Australia, wished
for the easeitatia of New Sauk Wales. He
did not day that these admits woad prefer say
an of repreeentaive psverawat to so raneestative
gonsatheat at all. For Vietecia wee most axioms to be
separated from New South Wales, V.a Dismiss load
biped by obsess of representative inetitations to get rid of
Wasporation ; South Australia sad Waters Australia bag
wished In sone soatrol ever their own seas ; sad for Woe
rose ti se dab' they would prefer this bill tone bill at
all. He had noteggiesed the bill in say of its 'wan stages,
air should ha luppre it altar It had weed *Wash the coa-
lmine,. Bat helmet hoped that the 10•Ullit•S• would be per-
suaded to west the lell Mesa mown feasted upon ',nod
peinelpiso, and Weaned to give, set a momentary, bat per-
Menewt eililkolleit to the saioniem (Divide.) The papers
mannied to winnow only proved that the inhabitants of
that War preihned their present constitution to a mach
wenn ene. Nish the Smeary of Stets fir the co'onlas
istimail hi wish to bestow ups New South Wales. If
boa ninhin would 71131 to • dm?stala from the Secretary
of Site In the Coke& s to the Reverser of New
Sena Wale., deal the filat of liiy, 1847, they
wadi Sad a slaesesent tea the leak earl to the
ellen that the Saw if thi potato era had fa seas time
'Deviated rodlonsa from steadier to the stairs el tllll
Australian estiniosi that the 'Weal lastitatiess of those
aissies ought to be reessetruesed; that :the mensal week.
ias eif the esealeas of New Beath Wass as sot saga-
Way ; and that a ammisaties, wanner of two What
ham, was bat sellomitted to ensure judicious and prudent
lesidatisa. Thee the noble earl intimated kis wish to
make a most exaserdinary share in the coadtatica
of New Both Wales; he proposed to digrambies the
Wenn of that inlay, and to coarse the right of elate
as wean of the legated," costal oa certain
"latehis, called district councils. (Benewod cries of
" sad "Hear, hear.") The sone earl prepaid
thiesionito make es great • change is the emetinsties of
that easy as would be made in the minatitatios el Log-
i/sad, if el than electors were to be deprived of their votes
and ashes of parliameat IMO to he sleeted ealy by in;
aspen sal tammun commit of the he. Batravegat
as sash • peopessl would be for Baaland it wee still
mere ealmegent for New Sean Wales, for tits ishabitaate
of that missy atomised a spade* atones to t 0...
"And* etessilm" aad had witted lair eatablieleneat
by eremy was is their power. Usfortasately they wore
the hawks tering of the newt Sagotary of Saw for
the Oases, Week nothing would law Motto aboadoo.
But it was said that if the Wales wished for British lash.
team they would be able to get them, beams they were to
have power to alter and wad their lastitstioms. Now, to
whoa as this pewee to be entrusted ? It as to be gives
by the government mown to • legislative owasell is which
outhfrd of the mamba was to bold their sas at the will
of the Colonial dike. What would be the eogsequeseta If
the nondosta members sated together es a body, ateerdi a
to the directions of the Colookladlos, it would be very
ealt for the elective members to defeat them; he this por-
poise it would be emissary that awe than three-fearthe of
the elective members should art eordially towbar. We
sweats complained in that how that the number of °Mi
dst members combated with the government exercised an
undue aflame over their dation ; yet the Inaba of
dial members la the Home of Commons did sot exceed
forty, or lass than ea Mae* of the wale, sad
all of them responsible to coastituats, sad that re-
sponsibility inflamed their votes. What would be
the slats of that house if 220 members' that was,
one third of their amber, held their mats at the will
of the government of At day, sad were responsible to no
constituents ? Would It be possiblo ever to wry any mw
-
sure spin Om parnmemat (Hose, heir.) Hs should
think set. N. doubt the difswee is the aggregate as.
bits meld male" gesseidsnahle diforeses is th. workless if
• slake inotination is the Wass. Bat be
thesibt net, aevathelme, it woad be very dials&
is disseminate to carry an amen against the Coastal-
°Rem fingspose, however, that the elective membersshould
emesed Wataity or thrtats I. defeating the COW&
rise loslito,
as m it was termed, what would be tam 41111111-
=P It w 00(060118 CMS is New South Wales the
matbses locked dam y.pouou the eentioated stsealiet
is the are Wit of Me and as WWI= Is
geed gemenommt. (Res, bar.) TWA,' the eke**
wawa mead, without
mene
doubt,ehoaimes that than ilendl
be me mendosted mambas is the at 11. Wald
they, then, that Oa be • Woad *ember ?
He d it. They add "sly /OM Ire of
aoseinatil wad Amber it else >tea of denim steal
Wombat. They wall net pane • ssislosied
*amber. hewn thee maid anew Z:e seZZahav•
argued Mine, that a undated mead her be •
greater &Wel' to pod gamma than • esimerity
of annalemn Ina stone shinier. Fee with a Mane
thank, es esseihnied, the animated smoothers wild set
defeat the Whet at the rernerstallms el the people, if they
were well agreed tssger ; whWn, em the contrary. with •
antalasted west*saber, the sondem of the Coastal-
office would be We, whenever they night think raper, to
reject no wawa of the reptant/lime of the people,
however an they might be. Therefore it was
maim that they would sot prows • nominated wad
amber. (Hear, hear.) Wald they propose an elective
wend await ? He doubted it. Fur whoa an n had
we tamed ',paler wanes, when they had we enjoyed
Widest reputation and power, they wen not willing to
raise up rivals a themselves, woo should possess equal power
sad perhaps neater reputation. Now what was true of the
isitividaal eta woe weal true of bodies of MS as far
es pettiest sad Ulises were cenesead. . Tandem he did