The Express.
London, England, 1868-04-21 00:00:00

The following im from the Journal de Paris

We shall retar;to X. Durny's speech, in honour of
which several journals this morning sound a boorish of
trumpets. The minister commenced by declaring that he
would say nothing to the learned societies before him
about themeless, end he kept Ma word, for be enlarged
upon Chancellor Bacon and James L, and the deplorable
state of sasses in France until he, IL Durny, appeared
as its regenerator.
The Univers gives the minister no credit for his
expressed determination to keep free thinkers
within decent bounds, and says that "his newly
fledged orthodoxy sits uneasily upon him."
The Bourse was lather dull. Rente closed with-
out change from Saturday. The principal feature
of the day was a rise of 435 c. in Italian, caused by a

favourable Tali, taken of M. Cbuninsy Digny's
preepectus for a reduction of the deficit. Mobilise
fell 111 r. 25c.

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THIRD EDITION. 1
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THE FEIAN TRIALS AT. THE OLD
BANILEY.-(THIS DAY.)

The trial of Michael Barrett, alias Jackson,
Timothy Desmond, Wm. Desmond, Nicholas English,
John O'Keefe, and Anne Justice was resumed at 10
o'clock this morning at the Old Bailey, before Lord Chief
Justice Cockburn and Baron EtramsvelL
The prosecution was conducted by the Attorney-General,
the Solicitor-General, Mr. Gifford, Q.C., Mr. Poland, and
Mr. Archibald.
The counsel for the prisoners were Mr. Warner Sleigh
fee William Desmond, Mr. Straight for Timothy Des-
mond. Mr. Keogh for English, Mr. Montagu Williams and
L. Edward Clarke for O'Keefe and Justice, and Mr.
Baker Greene for Barrett.
The approver Iffullany, was examined by Mr. Warner
Sleigh. He deposed—l did not receive or entert►in the
"centres" who came up from the country. I entertained
some of the " unties," but not those who came from the
country. " Captain " Murphy often took his meals with
me, and Barrett dined at my house once or twice. I onus
pawned my watch sad chain, but not for the purpose of
entertaining the " °entree." There were two meetings at
my house. Vaughan was not in the habit of coming to
my house. I never spoke to bins until I saw him at Bow-
street. I attended a meeting in Little Queen.stieet, Hol-
born, in the beginning of December. Wm. Desmond was
at the meeting. I attended a meeting at the American
Stores, at which William Desmond was also present. I am
not aware whether in giving my evidence at Bow-street
I omitted to mention the fact. I attended " Father
O'Connor's" meeting, of which I have not given evidence
before. I did not know Vaughan at the time, and I can-
not recoil ct that he was there. I was very active at the
meeting. I don't recollect having seen W.Deusond there. I
went with the pl►te to the front seats andgot money. I never
beard of Vaughan as • Fenian until saw him at Bow-
street. On the 11th December there was • meeting at
Win. Desmond's house. Before I went in • man named
Ryan had been accidentally shot with a revolver. He
was taken out by Win. Desmond to get air. I heard,
either at the American Stores or at Castle-market,
that there was to be a meeting at Wm. Desmond's. While
Desmond and Ryan were out there were several men up-
stairs. The copperas of which I spoke yesterday was not
used twelve months ago. Murphy had the letter on which
the invisible ink was made to appear. I did not hear it
read aloud.
cross-examined by Mr. Keogh—l lived in Dublin before
I came to London and worked as • tailor. When I wu
introduce' by English I was sworn in as a " centre."
Several of the American ooscers were introduced to me.
I made 41. or 51. • week since I came to London. I
parsed my watch during the tailors' strike, when I was
ill and short of money. lam quite satisfied the letter
I referred to yesterday came from Burke. Murphy did
not know what plan to resort to until he got the
letter. I can read print. I did not read any
of the rewards that were offered. On the day
before the explosion I was at the hones of Mr. Davis, •
tailor. About • quarter to 4 o'clock I saw English and
William Desmond, who asked me to go with them to see
the explaion.
The Lord Chief Justice—Are you sure the word
" explosion" was used?
Witness—l don't know, my lord. They asked me to go
to Clerkenwell. . .

The Lord Chief Jcistioe—l must caution you not to use
words of your own in that way.
Cross-examination resumed I am not aware that
Vaughan has sworn he knows me. lam certain I did not
know him. I never bought any arms for the Fenian.
The people with whom I mixed believed me to be
a Fenian during the past five or six years. I did
not join the Fenian to become an apostate, and to
make money. If I had done so I might have made more
out of it. I volunteered information because I knew
English was " splitting." I did not want to ruin my young
family. My family did not cost me a thought when I
joined the Fenian,.
To the Lord Chief Justice—English told me at the
waiting-room at Bow-street that he would see the men to
the devil before be would undergo imprisonment on their
account. _ _ _

Keogh—Then it was a dead race between you. (A
laugh.)
Witness—l did not give evidence for some days after
English need the words I have mectioned. I never thought
of a reword. I gave information solely for the sake of
my family. English had time to inform before I
became an informer. I tally believed English intended
to inform. I expect no reward, and I don't know
what the crown intend to do with me.

By Mr. Baker Greene—l don't think I was told by any
of the warden in the House of Detention that some of the
prisoners were about to turn informers. When I was
sworn in there were about eight or ten persona present.
We repeated the oath after James Kelly, the "centre." I
know that Vaughan swore that the only persons present
while the Fenian oath was administered were the man who
ti,A it and he who gave it. A centre's oath an be adminis-
tend in the presence of several persons. The person to
whom it is administered is supposed to have been already
sworn a member of the brotherhood. Although I was not

a member at the time, I took the centre's oath. I don't
remember the date when Captain Murphy produced the
letter on which the copperas was used. It may bare been
three or four days after I bad been introduced to Barrett,
and a week or eight days before the explosion. Barrett and
English beard the letter read. I did not refer to the letter
at the police office, as I merely answered the questions put
to me. I gave my information prior to the examination
at Bow-street. I think I then told the crown solicitor the
information respecting the letter. I subscribed half a
soveriegn to buy powder to blow up the prison. About 18
pemonn were concerned in the matter, and it was arranged
at Desmond's house on Thursday that they were
to go in twos and threes to assist at the House of Deten-
tion. On the Wednesday or Thursday Barrett and
another man came to my house. I saw Barrett at
Kavanagh's public-house on the Thursday, and
we walked towards my house together. I asked
hint what had become of the barrel of powder,
and be replied that the captain failed in endea-
vouring to light the fuse, and that be would light
it on the following day and blow the prison to !NIL On
the morning of the explosion I saw Murphy, bat I have
never seen him since. I saw Barrett on Friday night at the
Welsh Stores, at the corner of Warwick-street. When I
WWI at the dock at Bow-street an apprentice of mine named
Wary Morris stated that Barrett came to my house on the
evening of the explosion with a man whose ear was bleed-
ing. Morris said I remarked that the man bad been fight-
ing. It is not true that Barrett accompanied
the man. My apprentice said Barrett had his
whiskers at the time. When I saw Barrett
he had shaven his whiskers. Up to that time he wore a
Mee coat, but on that occasion be wore the coat he has on
at present. I don't know where the other men who were
cone...rued in the buying of the powder are now.
1:.• —tamined by the Attorney-General—Murphy gave
for entertainment. "Father O'Connor's "
meeting was held before Burke's arrest, and it had no con-
nexion with Fenianism.
James Vaughan was then examined by the Solicitor-
GeneraL He said—l am a tailor by trade. I have known
the priKmer Timothy Desmond since 1865. I have known
• Deamond shout eighteen months, and the prisoner
P.-4'l4h about four or five years. I have known
(1.84,-fe about eighteen mouths. I know Mod-
Incr. and have spoken to him on different
nneacons principally at Kavanagh's public-house. I was
sworn in as • Fenian in 1865 by Timothy Desmond.
I saw him on the day of the explosion between
Lad-' put 1 and half-past 2. I was at work at the
titer at Pugh's-place, near Golden-square. He came
y room and " hollered " out " Ahoy ',
I na: I. " Hollo, Tim, have you been muddling it ?" He
• " I have just seen my son off to us this morn-
ing." I could see he had been drinking, but I should not
"5 he war drank. He asked my wife if she had
iwau Lis wife. She told him she had not, and
.-at " You don't mean to say, Ned, your
is•f•-• husked it from you ?" He replied," Yes," and added,
By the God that made me she shall never lie beside me
en,: He kneed my wife and bade her good bye, and
sail hs w " going to take a jump. My wife told him not
In be so foolish. He then leant over the door and whistled

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t° end said in a whisper " The thing most be donw"
las.cl Wm what be meant, and he answered. "They're
Plat to Wow up the Home of Detention." I asked him
"ea, and he said, " The thing most be doom. We have

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found out from Ann Jostles by going in VIA 9ary's die- •
nor, the time at which they inetisPU tie yard.; -.
and the trick mast be dose between half-past 3 cad 4
o'clock." Na thee bide see good bye, sod said, "Jemmy,
when I am blasted into eternity, pray for me ; or if I get
a and am unarrested, the next plasm will be Milbank."
He then kissed end shook hands with me, and went away.
I didn't lee him again until he was a prisoner. I saw
English about 7 o'clock on the soaking of the explosion.
He came to the door leading to my room and said, " For
God's sake, Jemmy, give me ea mach as you can, for we
want to mad them oft." I asked him to 'whom he referred.
and he answered, " What! haven't yea hoard 1" I said
"No," and he then said, "The House of Detention is
blown bang up." I then gave him 25., and told him
I could span no more, as business was slack. He
said, " For God's sake give me es much as
you can, I want it badly." The next
morning I saw him reading the placard of a news-
paper and saying aloud the word " diabolical." I
" Hakes, Ned," and thou he added, " We will burn
the whole of London yet, and that will be a right
more diabolical." I then wished him good bye. I was
at Bow-street at half-past 12 that day. When I got to the
corner of Bow.street and Russell-street I saw O'Keefe,
who asked me if I had seen " Nick," meaning English. I
told him I had, and the; I bad left him in Garnaby-street.
He mid, " it ; I had an appointment with him." We
' commenced to talk about the explosion, and two other
persons joined in the conversation. I said it was a cruel
thing that there was such a great sacrifice of life. O'Keefe
remarked, " A thing like that could not be done without
a great sacrifice." We then crossed the road, and entered
• public.house near Drury-lane Theatre. While we were
there, Wm. Deemed came in and said, " Hallos, Jemmy,
what do you think of that fool!" I said, " Who!"
and he answered, "Ted's wife. She has been saying
that they have called him • coward." He then said, " Did
you ever hear me call him • coward,Jemmy?" and I replied
" No." Nicholas English then came in and took William
Desmond by the arm, sod said, " Yon don't want me here
now." William Deamoad again asked me if I had heard
him call Timothy a coward. I said " No," and added
" Thhi is a bad job." William Desmond then said "It
served him
no business there. We sent him back to take
an hour's sleep." English also said, "It served
him well right. If he was anything of
a man he would not have let his wife know as much as
be knew himself." I understood from these remarks
that Timothy Desmond was too drunk for " the business."

I went to Bow-street for the purpose of seeing the pri-
soners brought up. The prisoners were not brought up
on that day. Oa the Sunday evening I saw William
Desmond, Nicholas English, Mullany, and other men
at Kavanagh's public-house, in Poland-street. I told Win.
Desmond that seven detectives were watching his house.
He asked, " What am I to do Jemmy? I have no money."
This conversation took place outside the house. I have
seen Barrett on two occasions. I saw him in the first
week of December with English, in Regent-street, and
before that I saw him with English, at Kavanagh's. He
then wore Dandreary whiskers, and a slight moustache.
Cross-examined by Mr. Straight.—l was in the army.
I refuse to say whether or not I deserted. I left the
army is 1861, and took to tailoring. I am married. I
have never been in a mad-house. I remember Dr. French
telling me not to drink. I am not aware
that I drank myself into delirium trainees, or that I have
been under restraint. I have been • "lodger" in St.
James's Workhouse twice. I have no recollection that I
was kept under restraint there. Dr. French told me not
to drink, but another doctor told me I should drink.
(Laughter.) When Timothy Desmond whispered to me at
my house and said, " The thing must be done," I did not
understand him to mean that he intended to commit
suicide.

by Mr. Keogh—When I enlisted in
the 58th Regiment, I took an oath, the purport of
which was that I was to serve her Majesty. I suppose I
have broken that oath.

Cross-examined by Mr. Baker Greene—l have never
■worn in a Fenian. I knew that the wall of the House of
Detention was to be blown up, but I knew of no intention
to blow up the entire building. In my first examination
►t Bow-street I made no allusion to Barrett. Subse-
quently I heard of Barrett's arrest. I was taken to Mill-
bank to look into the cells in which the prisoners were
confined. I recognised Barrett, having seen him twice
with English. I have seen him at any Fenian meet-
ings, nor was I aware that he belonged to the brotherhood.
Croes-examined by Mr. Williams—l was tried by court
martial and reduced to the ranks from being a corporal.
Since I gave information I have been receiving payment
from the police. I saw a placard offering a reward before
I gave information. I did not read it. Three boors after
I saw the placard I gave information to Sergeant Cole
I have known Sergeant Cole fifteen years, but I have
gone ►bout with him. I expect to get a portion of the
reward if the prisoners are convicted.
Re-examined by the Attorney-Genera—l was tried by
court-martial for absence without leave from my regi-
ment.

The court here adjourned for a short time.
Upon its re-assembling John MoHewitt, clerk to
Haney and Lewis, gunpowder manufacturers, was
examined and deposed that an application was
made on the 4th of December, at their premises, for some
gunpowder by a man who requested that it should
be delivered the next day, at 8, Pulteney-court,
street, Golden-square. The man who gave the order
stated that the powder was for blasting purposes.
Wrn. Burgess deposed to having delivered four b-Alb.
barrels of gunpowder at 8, Pniteaeyoonrt, on
the 6th of December. One of the barrels was
put in the yard, and the others were wheeled away
on a truck in the direction of Golden-equars. A small
piece of tarpaulin. was thrown over the barrels before they
were wheeled away. Witness was paid 3/. 7s. Gd. for the
powder.
By Baron Bramwell—The size of the 501 b. barrel was
that of a four and a half gallon mak.
Martha ILempsley, living at 8, Pulteney-oourt, deposed
that she had seen the prisoner Barrett several times in
the shop arid parlour. She identified his portrait Wore
his arrest In Glasgow.

By Baron Bramwell—Mrs. Martin kept the shop at No.
8, Pultenereourt. I lodged there with my parents. Sines
I have been examined Mrs. Marlin has threatened my life.
The barman who conveyed the gunpowder to Pulteney
court was recalled, and stated teat the staves (produced)
were larger than those which farmed the powder barrels
taken from his employer's premises.
Thomas Setupsley, an intellit lad, identified Bar-
rett, whom be had seen at 8, ftliernerconrt. Barrett
wore a light grey coat when witness saw him at Pulteney-
court. At Milbank he wore a dark him overcoat, and
hie whisker' presented a strikingly altered a
Re-examined by the AttornepOtnersl—iL'earreivere fee-
quentlydisturbed at 2 o'clock and 3 o'clock in the morning
by ascending
inamending the stabs.
at Anne Page, residing No. 1, :Moon* de-
posed
having seen W. Deemed and hin Mrs.
'a shop once or Mies Defers the
Cress-examined by Mr. Warner Shigh—Witness failed
to identify Wm. Desmond at Bowolnist. Believed eke
told the polio, magistrate she bad seen Wm. Desmond
mews day for a week before the explosion at Mrs. Martin's.
She tailed to ideates him at Millbank.
never remarked that the primmer
• was lame.
Dupois, who amples the shop at No. 1, Pal-
teney-court, stated she had seen William DP emend, Bug.
limb, O'Keefe, and Barrett at Mrs. Martin's.
In cross-examination by Mr. Sleigh witness said she
could not identity William Desmond when she wss taken
to the polioeotation for the purpose. She had frequently
seen O'Keefe in the neighbourhood of Pulteney-court.
In reply to Mr. Williams, she said she was not aware
that O'Keefe lived in a court near Puley-eortrt.
Elisabeth Butter, a lodger at No. 2, Paltaneyoourt,
said she had seen English and Wm. Desmond at Mrs.
Martin's.
Ann Siringfeld, the wife of a baker residing at 3, Wise
grove-place, Clerkenwell, add she had seen the prisoner
Barrett several times in the locality.
(The trial was proceeding when our report left.]

TER Niw PALACZ OF WILSTMINFTER. —An ad-
ditkral steno cs cow been placed at the principal
intrease to the members' prints made in Now Palace-
yard—via ais el /Dag John. Then en now three stenos
in lie fres* of this arcade--via., Alfred the Great,
William the Oesqaeror and King John. The remaining
three mean Idabel will skartly have statues placed in
niem. These Manes an of Portland .stase, and stead
6ft. gin. is*. The braise stain of the late Mr Benet
Peel, whin stied is. ease time anoovered at the antral
estrance to New Palace-yard, having been removed on
amount of the ineligibility of the it., will be shortly
=ea • granite pedestal at the estrum is New
rad frosling Parliament-street and Greet Genre-
street The iie* stains of the teL lard Palmerston
will an be spend In some time.
ROTA'. Pun Manta., Chwes-ors-Roh.D.—The
winner el patients relieved at this hospital during the
wen eadLag April 18 wee 3,174, of whin 1,109 ware new
awn