The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-13 00:00:00

well sa4 wisely Is seaside, whether the e
of tiie warshabse were that to which he had.,
i 4 might net lather have this tendency.
authority of the beam, instead of int
let se see in what position the
if they weeded to this motion of the
appolated the committee to which so m
been made. la the first place they had
seeaitem. He had not the slightest clout
one well aware of the formation and t
11101111hitta• of this description. He would
be a peeked eassnaittee. That would be ci
It would be a wall-arranged committee,
mittos, the majority of which would r
who had poLtisal feelings, a live'
the policy of her Majesty's
it was very poestlit that thou who
of revision, sad regulation, and not
public establishments, would net find the
come to any resolution favourable to those
vanes another point--tuppou the commit'
fairly, suppcee the committee to come t
hos. gentlemen bad much at heart, wilt
more serious portion of the motion of the
could only come to resolutions which
opinions of acts of parliament; and the CI
chequer would be able to answer this
there was another thing which the house,
to the motion of the government
consider. What be wanted to
home was this, not to be led
precedent cf estimates referred to a cow
tike so false a view of the character of t 1
mons es to suppose that the duties of the
were to be "mat they were in the day,
Stuarts. On the contrary, he felt that
that a great deal of the power of the stew
tred in this assembly. He did not erudite
the House of Commons had over the poi
contrary, he deplored that of late years, ass
the reform, the power of taxation had
The House of Commons had to deal oil'
the public expenditure; and he believed
impolitic for the Home of Commons to
Ms., to have permitted the sugar duce
annual vote. He told the house they so
mistake if they permitied Winters, r
dents of estimates, to agree to the
the house now to cou'ider what most
what the inevitable consequence of
they agreed to the motion of
wosteme might lee the information
seised on all those circumstances q tali
any measures of the government, and
merits of their proposition—whatever mi
tion government might posies irrespecti
as members of the house, if the re mod
one thing wee quite clear, they must in.
if they had no previous knowledge whoe
would be satisfactory to the country but
tion of these subjects. The house had
three subjects, which required a em
ledge which he could hardly fis
could supply. (Hear, hear.) The
be most qualified to decide epee
salary to be paid to a member of
offices under the crown, would be not q
salary. whereas the man most competent
eial salary would he utterly lo!, when
complicaled questions coniyeted with c
blishments. That Ming the cue list
romances as regarded the committee ? If
to sup, me that the committee would i
labours. No one would suppose
We should have on the table II
had received. At the commencew
would oak to sit mode' and cents
had heard • groat deal ot thir gr. at es:
whether our countrymen multi comp.
foreigners, there would be no pr,du
country could exhibit which would
produced by this committee. ("He,
Then he said to the members who were s
he • revision and regulation of tax,
consistently support tne motion, which
inevitable result, when it inc is the po,
on their own risponeibility, furnish,
information they $ mused, and which
grey, was pouested by me tubers to do
Let government cease ',mud with fr,
frank manner express their opinions ups
us the advan'apof their know:Wean .
their preliminary knowledge at once inn
three.important subjects. Woo could dou
the first minister' who had beet a mete
or 40 jeers, who besides that had alwaj
kr studies, and given to c oat
all questions connected with the House
It be chose it, in one moroins, pew., ti
to parliamentary salaries? Toe cp
aupy the committee for men Ls.

in the home mare qua:i,.ed tLkll the nol
questiors as to diplomatic atrvicem, and
these bi le bought in at once; and it i
the government there eh .uld b• re !tic
then it ought to have teat hr..ught c
hear)—and upon th.ir own tcym.si'
stra4htforward
accompli hang that whie'. •ruull he :a
sad satisfactory t•r the h..usc end t`..e
advrrt to shat was a limper:lnt cot
wend I he the inevitable c n .eitt no
of business in the I. suss f tb,
010 ion of the miniver. The n•
terred to the 1220.1 to mate by nil i at
her for Oxford ; he had done him 011
honour of referri..g to the a•.tice of rc(
given. N-,w, he wss net at this moat
the details of the pr,padtion of L',
for Oxford; but he had this 1c.0w1e.41
forward character, that • e wa• Lanvin(
taken up the qn.stim in an idle m I
OCe2pled hi% considerati,a for a caLsidel
his knowledge at his business like hal+
perseverance, that whs•ever might be ;L.
when it was pn:d•ec.d, he could n
it was a well c•msi.lered and well
asked wish what chance of success MI;
f•r Oxford introduce to their

which he intimated last year, and w:-dc,
interval he bad most seri icily coneie
chance of succese was it to be •uhmit•
Commons, if be was to be told by thi
there was a committee up stairs
quire into the subject, and th, eel
non of the kind could be seceded
lord had also adverted to his notice of r••,
a taunt that the notice he gave was the
which the noble lord hod given. TI
which arose from his most sudden and n
Many weeks before the notice of govern,
that it was his intention to bring forwe
was always of the opinion that, if redut
establithments were to be effected, buil
proposed by those who we: e masters of !
to the different trenches of the admi
who could lay those details before the ht:
with confidence call upon the how
(Cheers.) He certaioly did make the
noble lord reterred, and he should very
the question taken up by the
for one, was ot the opinion the
measures of retrenchment were brat
measures which they would Lave most t
way of considerable difficulties would At
involved in departments ef the nature te
terred, and would eenscqut title be take;
went. Ile ventured to give that notice,
the difficulties that it would have to cent
was nothing more irksome than to site:
propose reforms, particularly when one
or was what was culled a mere privets mt
in any important branch ot the public to
matte service was one to which many gent
respecting which there was a very precut
able rt trenehment must be made consist
gard to the public service, but, as the
cular service were not et familiar to tbt
matter, of a domei:ic character, there w.
in meddling with that propositirn.
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fate of the amendment it was not toe him
in bringing it forward, he did so beer
lieved it was one which, if adopted, wouli
of the house, the credit of :he adaginistr.
condnth to the welfare of the pubic 'en
and cries cf Divide.")
Sir B. HALL congratulated the house
achieved by the principles of troceosay, whet
the point in dispute was not the propriety
trenehmint, but the most efficient method
it. Comparing the propositions laid dot
matt and Mr. Disraeli, he decided in ft
committee, but thought the range of its
been jadieiousty extended.
Mr. HUME (after loud cries for ado
peopoeition of the noble lord consisted
of which it was the duty of the house tt
first place the noble L rd's propssicum
committee to inquire in't, alp Mastics a
offices held durii.g ple..sure of the cro,
either house of parhamtht voted in to
That gave the committee very much scot:
reductions. It continued to say that tin
inquire also into the salaries and eon
officers in the superior courts of law
United iiingdoit, end into the retiring
the judges. Here, again, they could
way of reduction, and it was Pi
should innuire also into the c
made establishments charged on the
. .

Oa the whole, the reduetilt which cJ
three diflerent departments would not II
of the reduction which was looked tor.

made a very strange speech, and showed
could possibly take place. noble to
some large reductions whick bad t
in one department, and it appeal
the noble lord was now comes
rather suspicious circumstano.e.
celled upon tto heuw to remember thi
when the Chance for of the Each. quer
get to th, house, ar.d stated all that 111
do, he (Mr. Hume) rtae and asked the C
chequer who' her the house wee to untie'
the whole amount of reduction vi/
went wore prepara a to make.
the Exchequer said that was all,
that answer with the proposition
night trout the noble lord h.
Dialling that he came to the unavoidt
there was no intention. as far as the Ole'
(*rite& to make any fur her r.citicson.
the committee appointed and prepared I