The Express.
London, England, 1857-03-14 00:00:00

SUPPORT OF THE MINISTERS.

(Continued from yesterday'• Erpresg).

Mr. BATIKS Cu as I E., in invpoging the first reaeluticm, meld
—Fellow Mimes, often as you have met together in this your
min hall, I believe that vou have midi= assembled on an
nenesion in which the beef interests of the country were more
bound up than upon the present; for as I take it, you are met
here to-clay nut to glorify any man, or any minister, how-
ever able or however sue emful he may be, but I apprehend
that the greet question which is proposal to the sound under-
standing and the practical minium seem of my fellow citizens
Is this if you have a government that has redeemed the die-
wens of the war, If von have • government that hits cone
pined under great thincultiew a nutisfactory penee—(No, no)
—if you have al government under which, whatever its merits
or its demerits may be, the toiletry I 4 now flourishing
—(No, no, and much confusion)—perhaps, my good
friend. you will hoer rue finish my writetice before you Inter-
rape me—that sentiment gives great oftener, to some of my
friend@ of the working chimes who are near me—(hear
bear)—this is • little epiaode in my speech which you will,
I an cure, pardon ; I ate aceuettimed to address large mares
of the working men of this country ; I ehoull we stand
lime to-day were it not fur the exertions of the working men
of this country. I was as unnoticed and m unknown en
regards the functions of a public MAR as anybody who stands
bete before me, at one time. I happened to utter some sen-
timents upon them hustings more than twenty years le
promoting Mr. George Grote, which caught the
eta touched the hearts of the working Men of N
Thom working non asked me to represent them. went
down. They returned me ; they have rosebud to
return me for twenty )ears, and if you r fie
tie Northampton and, ask my character from
I think it will preve retisfaciory. (Loud art.
But, gentlemen, I 4131. fully aware. I am deeply eenribit
• lame mean of deserving, industrious, able men in this me-
tniple are unfortunately out of work. I am one of those
who ore at this present moment engin.' in aiding in-
dividuals much more Soluentiel titan myself in endeavouring
to make another bridge to high-paid hear)—
to high, remunerative labour, in countries where the thews
end einewa of a men are npprociated at their full value—
where the working man, if he ie only moderately frugal and
moderately pendent, may realise a competence. (No, no.)
Let me tell youone amebic relating to what peened in my
two homes lasi night. I WWI talking with a poson whom
I have known fr some years, and who wan a journeyman
printer. He Ma grown from that to being a master
printer. Ile canto to my host. to print privately
some eddressees fur me. I want him what had be-
come of a family of, I must .11 them, pauper children—
for they were lett entirely destitute—whom I had known as
children moray years agiewhom he had taken,sa working men
often do, having barely enough to keep their own family.
Ile had akeu theta all bodily into his own house. Ha gave
me the history of antral of than. I will only mention the
ease of one, who, he said, was • printer in Amend* who
hid maimed 2,000 f., and who did not intend to return to
England till be had made 25,0001. This is an entire dime.
stan from rho roil subject before us, but I think It will
terve to phew you that I am not initineilde to your denesed,
oil your position, and you then will hear whom. what I
have to my. (Cheers.) The experseinn gave offence, and
therefore I will soy, with some large and most painful ex-
ception., that the general trade of the country, theeenimeree
of the country, is thriviug ; the government has proposed
large [Auctions of expenditure, ("No, no," Yee, yes. ')
'they have reduerl and taken off the war ninepame on the
income tax, and now the practical question which
I put to the common emote of Englishmen is, will you die-
turb every thing ? Will jou upset the existing gevernsuent ?
(Grim of " No' and „1 es.") Will you upset the existing
government, however sumer you may dam mime. of it, wheu
the gibed RIM in thiu Mitt areembly and the wisest men in
Vogl mil cannot point out to you any practical combination
of statesmen who could combine together with credit to
iliceiselves, and carry untie government at home? (Cheers
and confusion.) Now, geutlemen that I take to be tiro true
rm.-heal gender's, and to that I ask you to ripply that wiled,
preetial gossd mew which more than anything else distin-
guishes the pro pte of this country. (Cheers.) We all know,
in spite of • few gentlemen who are standing immediately
before me, and who are endeavouring to prevent this
meeting from hearing my voice, that the sense of
flue country has already given its verdict upon
the conduct of the ministers. (Cheers and cenfueion.)
What tangible prophecy or pretitable recollection mum'ns in
the need of any one who hens me of any splendid oration
—(for they wore meal eltinent and mom oplentlel)—which
we heard on the Home of Commons—what, 1 tub, hat be-
come of them? 'they have all "weskit into infinite ewe,
and the prettied sense of the people remains behind.
(Chem.) One wol more, gentlemen, upon the peculiar
queatien of the day. If the greet and god old duke had
been alive—l teem the Duke of Wellington—we should
never have heard of thin gustation ; end lie embodied in his
own mind the common sense of Englishmen. Ile WAS, in
tot, ItitimeU the eublatie of mumion frellwe ; and what wail
his maxim ? Choose the best men you ten for difficult peel-
lions. When you have boneetly chosen them, honestly cup-
ped there. lb,n't feud a public functionary one thou/tend or
three thousand miles off load hie niiiel and toed his eon-
edema with grave responsibilities, without you trent
him • and if you trust him, email by him. (Loud
cheek) That is a nentiment to which you will all re-
spond. Well, I say that that is the " head and front " of
the offending of the government. I say that they are no
more rempousilde fur the unfortunate occurrence inChinathan
you or I am. (Cheers.) Wo have heard a great deal of
abuse of Sir John Doering. (11i...) Gentlemen, I never
was honoured by Sir John flooring's friendship, but I knew
bim sp an acquaintance for limey years I erat knew hits
SP a dietinguielted member of the fear Society. I believe
moat sincerely that • more humane, forbearing MA never
lived, and I think you—the peeple—have something to do
with this question. (Cries of " All.") If Sir John Bowrlng
had been an arieeteratic name; if Sir:John Bowling had:been
a junior of some great doted family, or with Rothe great poli-
tical come:ion, you would have Aimed much lees of this
matter. Sir John Bowling wan a man of the people. He
sprang from the people. He was sent to parliament by
working men. He advocated his groat flimsier Bentham 's
principle—the grement happiness to the greatest munbee, and
so far as I know, he ailVocated humidly, consistently, and
with tuueh ability. (lime hear.) Wlll you really, as
Engliehmen who love fair play, tarn mund on the first pos-
sible ocausinti, and amb such a man as you would crush an
adder? I do not think you will. I du not think it belong"
to you. Now, do you wick to throw the gOVellallela OViT-
board in order that you may dive into the dark waters, with
the chance of Making up another? (Cries of "No, no,"
"Yep yes," and touch confusion) What government
would you have? Would you have Lord Derby? (No, no)
Now, I shall speak from them hustings to-day with
an endeavour to avoid ell party petite-A. You
shall hear on the partiednr teennon no party
speck from me. Why, Lord Derby himself has
told you that ho cannot make • government, that he
cannot take the government. Ile told you that without
Lord Palmeraton and Lord Clarendon he could not tithe the
government; and then do you ountempftte a coalition? Do
you with that Mr. Gladstone' and Mr. Sidney Herbert, and
that abet but very talented body of men commonly called
the teethes—du you wish them to eettlaßee with my Loril
Derby and tune a ce.vernment ? (Cries of '• No, no," and
much emsfiution.) I with to put the question fairly lichee
you in an honest, impartial manner of the mate of parties in
the house. I have great regard for the spread of eound
opinions, but I have Mill greater regard for the eafety of fey
own lungs, and theme ire in your present detpositien I shill not
tree*aa upon your enmities any longer. It is your pls.ruse
not to hear we, I con roe. (Cries of " Go on, go on, sad
math confusion and excitement.) Will you, as rational,
thinking men, consider a question which I will put beim
you . bristly and plainly as passible? (There was hers a
erne of great contusion. At length, the Lord Mayor
advanced to the front of the heating's, and begged that every
loiter wigbt be fairly listened 10, upon which),
Mr. CURRIE amid—My opinione have been very imper-
fectly expreteed. I should have load much pleasure in
meting them at somewhat greater length, but coneideriug
the excited state of the hall, I think it better to conclude by
sewing the following resolution:—" Devolved —That Lord
Pithwerston having undertaken the miverruuent of this coun-
try under cireuruntentei of extreme difficulty, and in the
ere. of a gnat war, which he eneeeetfidly carried to the
Weuc of an honourable pence, in entitled to the thanks of
the country ; end having, by an adverse vote of the
Hogs of Commis., been, in fact, cowered for his policy
in reference to the priseedings at Canton, this meeting feels
called upon to express its conviction that, from the ',Donlon
of again in China and the pate poroveedings there, no other
roarer was fairly open to a BMWs 'antennas, or wan compa-
tible with safety to the property and lives of our fellow coun-
trymen in that quarter, and with tho honour and dignity of
the nation." (Loud cheering.)
Mr. J. Davie—My Loki Mayor and gentlemen, the
race-waken and the o.e-hunters have united to plies the
country and the government is a lineation of great difficulty.
Of the peace-makers I choose to say nothing. I believe
them to be honourable, honest, but somewhat erotehetty,
well-meaning men; and vie know that well-meaning Men
sometimes produce a world of 'Mischief. But a few words as
to the placethuntram let us speak of those who support them,
and whiter object it is to turn out the present administnition.
What is the question? It In not Sir John Bowring, but
Lord Palnienton; it is not the Commissioner Yoh, the Chi-
nese Commissioner; it is Lord Derby. That is the question.
Remember the question of China, therefore, has now premed
arid gene. (No nn.) It has become a question of admit.-
tration—whothr you wilt have Lord Palmerston remaining
in power or whether he shall be supplented by Lord Derby.
(Cheers and "No, no.") Thin Is a teatem which has horned
now for more than 20 yearn. Itemeuther that Lord l'ahner-
ston did not found that eystem—did not cause that system;
remember that Lord nett% ,v if ho were established in plac
to-marrow, must support the same system; remember that If
Lonl Derby had been in power, and had been aided by Mr.
Gladstone and Mr. Dierecli—the Siamese twins of taxation—
remember that they must have done exactly the same. We
may all lament war, and I lament it as much as any one,.
but I say that there is not a British statesmen, with
brains in his heed or a heart in his left side, who
must not have supported our wimanta in China. (Chem.)
Much has been said-about the evils of the China system.
regret them. Much has been said about the smuggling of
opium into China and the tribute of silver. I ask you one
question. When Lord Derby Irma in power, did he alter that
system! ("No, no.") If he were in power to-morrow,
would he alter It? (" No, no.") They tat of the Chinese
tribute. Would Mr. Gladstone, if he were in power to-
nierruw, return the direr to the Chinese? He would not.
It is then the trick of a prey to get into place—the dishonest
trick of a ;arty, and you ought to resist it to a ram These
men are oat, aid they went to be is. They are like sway

league., ho thought, might liars retired spat
their honours, and not have obtruded thentnelves upon
every question. They and every man hal A right to express
opinions, but 4c thought they bad obtruded too much,
and he thought then policy in every measure they had
touched, Laving for its objeet the honour of the nation, had
beencon' prejudicial. ("No no," "Tess" and cheers.)
No one caul.' lament more than he did the enormous expense,
anxiety, and bloodshed, atoned by the Menden war; but he
believed if lito Emperor of itutait had entertained a different
opinion about the feeling of lingiond, we should never have
hod it. lie believed if he hail not thou,;ltt there was a
powerful peace party hem who thought of nothing but coat-
metre and tasking money, who would never listen to anything
involving a &fume of war, he Dever would have dared to
ems, the Prith. We had shown that England was
determined and ahead unanimous in carrying on that war.
Who carried it on r DM not a number of gentlemen, who
enteral into it nod who were emitted to carry it on with the
vigour ',mind, retire front the difficulty of the ',,.pion?
Who took the LArn at tied hieLtcut mot Mooed us throng!!
the difficulties into whiek the country had drifted!, ("
and trim of " Paluternten.") Then he contended that the
inembent for Manclicater had not represented the inlutbitants
of Mnnchester in voting ogidunt the government. lie
believed there were fern in Manchentte who would not with
one heart and one voice nupport the government in any just
and mammary war. lie bekevesi, in the late vote against
mininters, many of the leaders of it congregated in the lobby
of the majority, who, utipponing they wore in power,
would hove taken preeisfly the t ours:, they did in reference
to the Chinese question. Ile contended that there was no
way oft! Attie; with that people but that adopted by Sir
John barring and Admiral Seymour. He belnved that that
vote wet not in second ern with the sentiments of Man-
chester, and he hoped the electors would show by their votes
at the hantinien that they would no linger support men who
were merlastingly putting thinteelves iu opponation to the
goverment, when they were cu leavoming to uphold the
honour foal dignity of the teem a. (Applause.)
Mr. tna VIM ltL Moot) etvutel.ed the Mellott, lie thought
Mr. name had put the question very *imply.
The motion tot being put to the vote was carried by a large
majorits, only 40 or AO hands being held up against it.
Mr. j Ifaut All ()MINIM' moved" That Le the purpose of
gin ing t feet to the preceding renolution, a nnutoitionbe
im-
urediutt'v set on foot requesting the Right lion. ltobcrt
Lowe, N ice-President of the Board of Trade, and Sir John
Potter t olThr thannelven as candidates fur the representa-
tion of Mnorliester." Mr. Garnett until that with Mr. Lowe
they had hod no communication bat thcy had been in tom-
muniacien with his friends lie bad issued bin tukiress
at Nilleruninater, but he might nay that Mr.
Lows tam atubdiona of representing Manchenter and
&drum of the weight sod preetig, it would give hint.
They aohl not expect his pt,4fene.i; they must aunt to the
popularity of Lord l'ahn noon's guverutuent, and the ex-
ceeding unpopularity of the gentlemen who at present repre-
sented that city. Now with respect to Sir John l'utter he
would be wrong in stating that he hail said; "Give me a ?e-
-quitation and I will sired," but what he di say . was, "Ixt
tun fee your requisition tool then I will tell pm whether I
will stand." Ile thought Sir John WS! pursuing re cautions
but right policy, and he had no doubt they should carry the
amain to a eumfonsful inane.

Mr. JOHN PEN 01411 PCCOMIiaI the motion, which woo esm
ricl by a largo majority.
Mr. Do Uhl NOM, moral: "That • committee be appointed
to conduct the requiwtion, and to take a.rh mcnourai in
?detract thereto as they may dorm noceasary."
Mr. NV u. CALM:Nina, jun., rectunded the motion, which
alms at unaninionnlyagreed to.
.

The ns.elintt enr.rimlf"ll cry nn invitation to the tenons pre-
sent to on= the regnisition. nal to form nn election contatattee
invitation with which tunny eoloplied.

I'AN DIEMEN S LAND AGRICULTURAL
COMPANY.

Yeatenny, the thirty-eeenad untitled Meeting of this COM-
Ivor ie.. e.t.d. Mr. J.., Caine,' IS taa alkrlL ns ro.,att tit ma
roka LI 11114 In A prO. lei,. r. Otos in. the tionvae).• chief
te•r.t., rem, rd 41 to the e- dray, SW. lei a stmt., .noo of 1.,
wrote bout that en. y Ilona tonseated wha 'be alt lie of itte mob.
lone nett It ea ping no wrli darted Ire aboateni ; tad o.a toe 1104
and ledo. as -0 ttt.t Owe, hie arra pail. Ina let er, doted Jaw IT.
lr iiitwtA n dhe hut Infra's] • .ateib of to thea.ure and by oat
Us t I r sale, lout .02141 of the kaaa [1:,..a eat& at alankty.
;••• foist -ha welt that bleb to ortr•etry at Emit Kay. and to
redo it Mt 1,.t poolowel troroddx at the Week h., er and the River
I:.. Wit, Tray In pend. b, owswored •.ptanktlalia Meta
at •I sot: ..ther plaweild tic taluil.•nder tk• auspices of
tht US sea obese, or net say goal elletott lbw*
Bat;; t ri-te si. -.rhino. It use ta • eared fa,: mate had b eft
dire wend two/ Iftlerree, hot the report regrind awbeetwatem.
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ntribtdott to bei r the •.1118 Of Nall Mt) Protiteot Was
tusk 40th the load keatila from Lo-onneesia. naloh Asti hoot elready
er,troel m for ae Veroey, and woted A, eztoudol n. at
.4.• .00 -0 IV Pith.be itnetet• troy. e 4 tit en•ry it on to the
hirer I reeit. .I.lthate y Coraraw.er.o:Al be bent
by tif•ttl,4ll 0•VI. 1 the (II cape, * to rho onasysay
ana., kr Ina read ILraprent. A eas vat in were. I. laYina
t.den IL, • :strand h bra Ismer-gm, eercra the ntralta to
Mt .*1111“..... to nliale the a.: 1.•• I. 1.1,1 p lealna ate? the
501131 ny'. Kat t Bay awl teroiar Ile tl. Sbe rettal of the
larcie on the pecdawala mat ttadotainid at lab tate.; about sre awes
which hoe tell,. It. Adair e• e' Lt the 4505.7 tint of 20.. ter
Jere: who toe tho same bandies. at Emit La:, aleh Owl best
to.b :Abr. a alka.1•0001,4 a ob.
•41.11,5) it,. bet Meares tow ate. (4 woe •s•e dated the nth to
r. wttn Id had reten,:stid arretieents u a foe mattes Ids
flr,t land t the F.a.1.111... nit Ow Es... b 111,0., at Clrealat
lord, pm.n b.c!. hO. bad laid out a raw tow: 0.4;15 t read 204 . ere..
!be uile sold; ena-tai r ahm at awe. of n rth end treat land (11
p• et of in ert r road )1. a coloor dote lost
moeting awl inhomard to .I,Siod. Ibe shot mon revel that
be :Loa ti oral of lAe twap wwith.t.t 2; I, ter annum; it had
bon booed irwos Me fort kr format t • ),Ines acres or a
randy to et, 4,1 4 aka al:eta:eat, ma: Aril. Ti u rcpott Wag Waged.
• L. L • afrae•krakaall auditors re.W.sawd,

TELEGRAPHIC COMMUNICATION WITH

INDIA

TO 771 E EDITOR OP 7WE EXPRESS.

Slll,—With reference to statements which have
ripoared in several of the Fell,. papers re rate-ling the e.ta-
lobslunent of Telegrophia Commumeation with India, eh'. tho
Reel Sea, I run in a (Tradition to state that her Majesty's
government and the Hon. East Indic Compiny have decided
on the route via ticicucin on the Mediterranean to Hornell,
at the cor.tlaenco of the Tirtia and Euphrates, cued tho
Persian Gulf end that they have entered into a pmvisional
arreement with this erampany to that effect and further,
that they have not agreed to enter into any connect with any
other parties for establishing telegrephie lines to India.
In a communication under date the 2•-tud January beet, ad-
dressed to me as the Chairman of the European and Indian
J earthen Telegraph Company, the Secretary to the Treasury
remarks teat •• lAM notninauled by the Lords (.o:minis-
Rhine?, of her Majesty's Treasury to acquaint zon that my
lorele have been in eraanninkution with the oreign-ofee
and the East Indira Company respecting, the proposal to este-
: bli.lt a telegraph from Mewl t to Hornell, and that my
lords are prepared to enter into a contract with your
company."
"With a view to ensure to the government that super upon
end control to which their st,die in the enterprise justly
entitles them, the Teeseury shall have the power of appoint-
ing one olticial director."— one, &e.,
W. P. ANDREW,
Chid:mum of the Eanmetn nr.,l Indian Junction
Telegraph Couipm.y.
Grephiuu House, Old Broad-strort, Lradon, March 13..
E.R.—The earrespendence with bey Mojeety'a government
and the Last India Coniperey, an ti Irt subject to which this
letter refers, way bo penned ut the Wins of this uompony.
W. I'. A.

The pre.ident of the Chamber of Commerce in
Gt 11111847 is now ht England, urging WI the government tho
neteetity of a lighthomie on ttte :nwileweidern coast of
0 u-reolev. and a dilly mail eotnnumientiou between England
and the Elialliaal Lased,. . .

Very &rims Wm. ham- been incurred by tradesmen
fn SOntlemptre through the faitere of lkfewira. Copland and
Brines, of London, whe hail a contract for victualling
the Hovel Mail Cumpainy'a ships, kir_se quantities of the
vlehmiling stolen were supplied hi Miss.. Copland end
Hamra by the Southampton taiidesnitn. A very great sensa-
tion hoe also boll caused in Southampton by another failure,
that of one of the most reopeetille men in that town.
THE 1/E.EIq:OE AEI) Cast:A.—We (the
arc requested to 'date that the hearing of the appeal
of the Archdale on of Tawni en, in the court of the province,
will not take pia, before Eateter term; and, possibly, net
et the beginning nt the kvnit. The court had intimated its
scattiness to take the appeal, or so much of it an could be
beard Laiire Enstar, on Monday thu 23rd most., end on
alternate davit tollowing. Lid it is more CODVOLlialt to writ
till after Easter, and to this the mart boa given its assent.
We have wade inquiry in the proper quarter., end isamot
End that any any or time has Lan nriaiinted for giving
juilgotent in the Watection ease. Ib7rts me various as to the
nature of the decision; but moat of taco, agree in atErneug
that the former judgments will be meterially modiftal and
the crow etaincl.
THE BRITISH SQUADRON IN THE BOSPIIORVP,
A blegrarhic despatch from Conianniimque of the 4th an.
noun.. that .third Lytom, is an order of the day, hos
pointed out the order of departure of the remake of his
squadron than the Bosphorus. They are to have in sue-
esasiun, and rep:-ir to Malta, where they will ell assemble
before tworeedim; to England. Molina Leona himself will
leave Constantinople on the 15th, in the koyal Albert, at
which time the only vessel rontaining will bu the Miranda,
attached to the Femme of the English entbsaa3.
MEDICAL OFFICER. FOR CM:GA.—The Chincft War leas
cured great ertgruy et the eta in nil t u A et) Mtalsol Depart-
tut, art all the arf:Egrearlsta tunic Dees, tylrecteeteel *thy. Ito ant

fee icy. to7tbe teedle& eery co el no army OA. thourand men. It
beater, .trier mare vet •411711 Pe ‘lrr Urge alllOUrlt of pro-
b.ble t.isiarws. as tbe!..t I.wre can roe,. eret man is the
Some arm on lb. +Mt bat en an averaget or limn. In other word..
three we., four twoJtc • atio.!wirma to borpl•al err errs hundred
ea hoped, tbe Ir.a twisted to .westhled or the total
ournba. hone estruon to trine wade to, recur. the Met 3 ...rage
teethed stalfood the p...nciple of alopett•lve . zaniest .110 X Be.
,C), 3 or.std by the Fool WM C011,11e), ha• !writ Eloptel he the
t•treetor.Ceenrrai. The flirt et,m4ietl.m t n tele nriee•ve hoe Tr.
robed la the aillag up of Meeker y.. coma from tweaty.fles moot.
ditet. The 1:111,110,111 C. 05111111114 1.11.1 edit o esamination !mined
not Makable test at tee knowledge of tt &eh and! lam
tem th.. 114 SS unit Clalllit4l{l.ll 1A14411{01.4 the eaaminers
Was Ur. Mitre. - 1111L11, Ur. Dom sot '.ol' ,Irgeoll, Piltr.3u
and Itre,l. The ramp tithed .lid he oi.o,ted .t thee' toad etimi.
nation, which .14 ho held at the • rai of April or ...ninnies el May,
whett It it mpeaten that from tea Loftin repatila pill G Olkd sp.
....Mead MOM mad Weft!

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ghto mat It to a ram These Both than men were receatip tried for the the greatest respect for him_ . .fOr tho., arryt. ,'", aat tat, °- wheel it
it esprel•O lluit kom on t, MKS YK5241,11 Will 101 l 131101111111. •
lute la. They an Wm may wader el ama Is the ish et Alderney. plot eoonotished, Mr. yowler IMO UMW al ins .Enn Mtn mad WNW