The Express.
London, England, 1861-06-05 00:00:00

THE GRANT TO MAYNOOTH.

Mr. Wi'HAlSi..if moved a resolution,-'-' 11tat this home
will irquoliately resolve itself into a committee to consider
the .iere for the endowineot of the College of Maynooth,
with a view to the withdrawal of any endowment out of the
Consolidated Fund, due regard being had to vested rights
aod interests." He prefaced the motion by offering an
alool'er for presuming to bring forward this question, which
had le en so long in the bands of a member (Mr. Spooner) of
greater weight in the house. It was, he observed, no formal
'notion ; this grant WAS repugnant to protestant feeling,
as not only a wrong and an injury, but an iniquity, and
thorn was a gram determination to persevere in the efforts to
obtain its with ',meal, which would be ultimately MCCOY.
fol. He fore:sire from entering into the details of the
teaching at Ma h, and after a few general remarks upon
th:s part of the subject, he referred to the notice of an
amendment by Mr. Dighy Seymour, to *steed the inquiry to
all other state mislownieuts, contending that no other grant
stood upon exactly the same footing. He insisted that the
continuanceal this grant had a political effect, which in
the present coodition of Enron., was inconsistent with
the honour as well as the interest of England, which, was
, paying 30,00 N. a year fur the incubation of doctrioes re.
pidiated by Europe.
Sir W. V'ERNEkt. seconded the resolution. He would
sale the noble lord whether it was right or wrong that
Roman catholles should persecute and prosecute protestant&
in Ireland oo recount of their religion ; and whether it was
, right or wrong to appoint eight persona judges solely because
, Thee were Roman catholic'?
Mr. D. SEYMOUR said he could congratulate his hon.
, friend io having met with a seconder to his motion who
united the zeal of English fervour to the Orange loyalty of
th • north of Ireland. But if any circumstance more than
I anothergave atone to the 'reecho, his hon. friend it
spirit of propaganda which that speech displayed, and which
was calculated to arouse the feeling of the Louse. He stated
that the
_grant to Mayoootli had excited the unniitigated
1 feeling of Protestants throughout the country. Now he
Glr. Seymour) did not yield to any one in his respect for
Protestant feeling when it was sincere npou the platform,
is: when it was eloquent cud pious in the pulpit ; but he did
not Musk that Protestint feeling was a proper basis for
the votes of legialstora His hoe. friend lied been led in
the course of hie observatious to attribute to the Maynooth
pent a great many eaneequiroces and results which he
woedil not enumerate ; hut be could not ape* with his bon.
I friend that the destitution of families in Ireland had any
fair and legitimate connexion with Mayuooth, or that the
Puseyism of the English church had any connexion with the
pant. He deeply f till: tted hie hon. (deed had referred to these
topes : but his hoe. friend had thought proper to refer to
kim (Mr. tleynsour) in a somewhat pommel mow, and to
a vote which he had given 17 years ago, wherehe was only
23 old. If ho hail given that opinios in the warmth
and seal of youth, the experience of many years and a
deeper acquaintance with the subject had led him to the
osechrioa that it wee nut wise for the sake of the protestant
religioe to maintain in Ireland a church in obstinate and
obnoxious hostility to the feelings of the people.
By his amendment he asked the house to oppose
the Ilaynooth grant on the same ground as that
on which it (weed the regium donurn and the
&Babe annuity tax. The hoe. and learned member coo-
eluded
t
moving, as an amendment, after the words
"oonsol. red fund," to insert, " and also to consider the
expediency of withdrawing all other state endowments and
pants fur sockeiaattral and religions purposes in Great
Britain and Ireked." (Cries of " Divide.")
Mr. CARDWELL said he understood it was not the

pleasure of the house to -eoetin-ue---et ay lenettT;(l;a;
eisselos—(hear, bear)—or rather, he should say, now to re-
open • diseuesioa which by common emend, both is that
sad the last sessios of parliament, had been closed.
It world not be forgotten that in the former parliament,
at the su=estion of the right 'memorable member
for Cambridge Ireiversity, then Home Secretary, who had
thin to answer the hon. member for North Warwickshire,
parliament declined to reopen this discussion, no full of
angry feeling and so unprofitable in it. results. Thin 11),use
had come to the same cooclusimx, and he hoped the Lon.
member for Peterborough would not suppose he meant the
slightest disrespect to him when he (Mr. Cardwell)) said he
was sure, if that blame could have been induced to take
sash a course, it would have been by the &momenta of •
member whom the boom so sincerely, valued as the hon.
member for North Warwickshire. (Hear, hear.) He was
sure he wee speaking the !an of every mem-
ber of the house when he rid he deeply regretted
if trim any feeling personal to himself the hoe.
member had abaadoeed his motion, and be (Mr. Card-
well) diould rather hope it arose from the fact that parlia-
ment Lad shown itself usfavourable to the motion itself.
It WAS 01217 right to state that the commission which bad
examined into thi. subject had acquitted the college of am-
ain,' which was inconsistent with allegiance to the QUltell,
tied the aoudad of the pupils, generally speekieg. was
marked by propriety and virtue. The hon. member seemed
to tusk it expedient to open a new agitation, but he hoped
the home by its vote that night would give so
encoarsgement to the attempt. The lion. member,
bowers,, was sot empties as to his success ;
and Lisa • cantimee_general he bad prepared for himself •
line of retreat. He proposed, if his motive was ensue-
awful, to inquire and report whether the Commentary of
tal,)Asatius or lievoti formed • part of the texhhook --ea
mensuration no doubt as useful as it would Ile profound, in-
aarauch •• he (11r. Cardwell) cooks...eat his total ignorance
of the contests el tim Commentaries of Cabbasatius and
Uevoti. But if the house entered upon those subjects,
and begat to deal with the foundations of religion, he
thought they would have abundant work upon their
hands, and would, moreover, have difficulties to encoun-
ter and anxieties to meet which they might possibly sot be
prepared for.
Mr. SPOON EH said he would trespass for a few minutes
only on the iodularoce of the house, which had been so
often accorded to him. He wished to disabuse the house
4.4 the impression which seemed to bare been cooveyed
this
the right boo gentleman, that be had withdraw,. from this
queetiou, because he considered that parliament was so
longer willing to encourage it.. He assured the right boa.
petiemaa that he still felt it to be hie duty, if he were able,
to reseal against the Maraca great. Bat if be bad