The Express.
London, England, 1850-02-27 00:00:00

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Mr. MINE remised ►
day for movies die abelities
triusa.
NOTICE OF NOTIN:
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Mr. AOLIONBT gave
es the Minim in% be we,
to the missy et New Zealand,
viwield MN mate SW it '—
ses et MN esimy.
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the medzeeftetot.
were entered . s
Ms sasses mod erased'
oast et Aldo, doing
both laisoles. Of 'halm nosh mass AM%
optima frees 1640» 1110, beth we;
daes d eassin, the Waite aid higitole, and4=Zirwith
doss In Wird se net. Aad thisassho edelaysiclitaifed
devise the Owe poled in sash yaw, lam the womair el
deaths Inewees lie daft et capture aid ettstiollai Ildwat
the aniserneere et meta*
WILLI MARINI BILLS.
La reply to Kr. CASJIIISLL,
Mr. LUPIN:WHIRR mid it was net his intestio• cs
la mem the weal reeding et the Idermatik
glilaeg
rimy 1 heamea's Fuel, sad Menhashel
MO that he would aff additiesal time $9Bllllll
eametitasats at Liverpool to oodles aid make
thoginnee asposinted with these several colliesle. Re
usual dowdy same enedier day jasteed of lefty Ise the
11111111.11 Maar Of the bills is gooks to mate is
rift YEAROIIII O'CONNOR.
Kr. THORNILY brought up sad proseated a repot
ham the printing eammittea, was reed by the clerk at
dee table. Is tals report the eematittse stated that Kr.
Realm, one et*, boa. sombees fatOalordshire, hat men-
tioned be the shakos. that he had preseated •
politic to the hems ea the 14th lasdorkia, olthetigh
ordered to lie spa the table, had set been reported spa.
TM sommiefeelad, in consepease, dined inquiries to be
mai. Me the metier, and found that the said pities bad
bees Ohm from UMI table of the house by Mr. F. O'Canser,
ram tithe ha. members for Nottingham. The polities is
question woad be brought up acute actin et the bermes,
sad wegettei *pm to-or/grow. T
e Itont easin-
ess.' dot, at slate hear last night,lt it wee restoredity to) the table
of the home by tie boa. member Is, Notdagbas (Mr.
oCoasce), after Wag 'boat alma days.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said be meld plead in automatics
his *meet Moorages of the tome and preens et the
home with regard to petitions. (4' Oho and hear.")
A petides had mobil, hew presented by the
hat. member for Ozfordshin whisk he did sot
know mail dear. JO tatioicentained very totesive
abase of himself. Hepresea thought that, wider the dreier
stances, the beet tidal ha could do was to gin it the widest
circulation *reset the nanny, sad he accordingly took it,
and seat it to We elm winshe had it pentad and
published in his sewmoper.• Id a few days after its pettier
ties, the hes. gladsome (Mr. Healey) resisted him of it,
tad Its this old sereory to go to the cake and pt it.
r The esersemy
_west sad brought is dowa ea Thanday ever
lag but, bat Oh do home with it at halt pest sena o'clock,
snagging that he (Kr. O'Cmser) would so ems that
eight. Oa Friday stag, at ea early hoar, sad ask utile
r hat. membes tor Wolvszhareptort bad stated, at a late hour
bet sight, he cruse down to the Yews, hrmht
the petition with him, and gave it to Qs sleek;
tlfsd M- is taking it away, he bad violated any
et the mist or anises f the Isms, he begged,
dine
_the etkt hearaisedr podium, the Speaker,
le egtes. (Rear, hem)
Mtge h fry yogis Is. Mt. limn the upset was
emirs' Is Siva ibe sehla
• AFFAIMI OP GpriplOlL

=,4171 Men—
sibeded by the iespoolets, there wok *ay mu*
based eilah berelsdi on the extent and on lib quality of
tbeadmilessassweildainistered is this count:mad show*
Math he* pranibmtlesee was great reams pomp dad
Wahl abseil* to the sable* As an adadsoil mama for
an* so sees the adendes of the house se the nob* be I
might mho mead's that I. various parts of the waste, this.
woo* ednestismal movement whisk the logislature should 4
resgaise, sad whisk Mr *Steely demaaded abodes.
The people of Lammas% with the, energy whisk dblia-
=lAint, had formed a scheme for IM eel** air
f their Mies musty—ims alluded to the promediegs
dab aoudad* be the weeder *matt* of the ao;tene=
Ithniaster. Is flostiand, highly advantageous as hi 4
W y been append, to womegussee of its auk*
ea
there were osepleists; and these ea*
aseirl'as=ydiractlows end adopt* the rase tone.
--a sada** win* bad always ee
baol=serlsOutdcbil Hie rota realm edemas ease
Meassery to give Maws *mad* be all eMolibly. They
bad eirealeted a isakentits them* die ararilla to that
ells* est hod booked their 'pain with lbe **obi
'admit, 4 the late Dr. Chains* llssidso Wow ha
I" saatfor:eibega 1101kroffle themseolvf es wooss
a Maly la the odnelitlea their
(Reveler.) This ball had WO pet firth*
@embalming in Lena* of a Mabee of ediasall=o Ihe
troths*, el the bouldes et *Mon was sou .4 said*
ably farther tam was used ha mass They essonnes
charity sobeels; they were evelf-ermedlog. amli hod moo
beam* Teaable ; bunebeis and thrinnade of thee *Ness
Mae working elves, stioodea—the bop pa*. SM., the
gla 411. e We*/ sod tale lodes bed Mbined -omisiderable
==.ti with the clams ile wham **Map they were
Tlnth MIA the eissaregbaseissumstasiose ad the
pooder movement amed I. them* direction and led to the
sine Torah, namely, that the doe was come, short though
the tutored sum, lie !aking mese farther step, for making
'time *name la *is mar. Bat there were tea-
** stronger gad me* meat even than these. No
person could mosider the °imperative **thee of this
matey and other orentries ae to edmatin, without feeling
thara the *don to which we belonged was sot supporting its
high elearaster aid its ascent preroptive. (Rear, hear.)
Through means of the noble lad the foreiga secretary, and
tbe 'dames of the soused oa educed*, he was enabled to
give the proportion borne by the children at school to the
satire population in *does enables of Rol** sod to KIM-
of the states of Maori* Mil proportion Orr :—ln Free',
cow to six; In Bavaria, one in eaves at day schools, and,
reekoaiag every hied of elementary school, one I. Are ;
in Reiland, sae aeight at die schools, besides these
such private coition; ha Belgium, sae in due; in Pennell-
voids, Ila 6 ; in Massaohuasetta, lis a. The very highest
*bait* et the mast sespdae ealealathe of this proportion
is Begland—mss *sent Ur. Beinee—oily gave it at 1 in
a • to make eat this proportion everyrJ kind of sehbili day
said earthey selmois, had to be , sad there was great
*ea* to believe that it was very thaccitrate, and that 1 in
lif would be eau& nearer the mark. Nat ooly would he
diem ationdenintE nerd
aa defines* of education, but to
hi onsiodang ty. It w not the setae in say two
soundse, asia t parishes of the ems town, nor in
diarist stamen et the working people. In as localities
whom most attend* had been paid to this subject, it was
reported that la the district of Vauxhall, Liverpool, the pro.
geltoiresd.atr eitiag36day. school, was 1 is 1; in Blitetratne.
I. Sheffield 1 in 11 ; in .81LIDnehest, Chaster,
1 la 14:
Takla( the different coantim: of Enjiend, a most
lasormsns variation from Wmirage of instigation
Wei ma. • In Middlesex, Barr*, and Cumberland, the
another reiseiving caseation was above the average by 69,
IS, and 62 per sent. respectively. In Belford, Monmouth,
and Hertford, it was below t,M average by about 53 per
mot. In each. In Warwickshire and Cheshire it was above.
I. that the map at England had its light and dark spots, and
dry continually iathretiagled in the drama manner.
While, according to recast mares of the Regutrer.derieral
4 Ragland sad Wel* one-half the po ulatioadid not know
bow to writs their names, it appis from well ***ti-
ed* returns from 477 cotton mills in Manchester and the
somerandim district, that no less than 821 per cent. of the
whole asmbm of factory operatives mold reed. The die.
pin* Mended even to the sum. In the stational schools
is Liman owl as neighbeertiood, than wore three boys
eassated to two girls; bat in the British and Porde'
mho& is the metropolis and its nololtboarbood,
lbws was Italy one girl to two boy.. Emu-
lates was hod dimarity, irregularity ; sad the,/ called
bra= seek insure as he had mtheavound to
Mee aides the loadities to mortice% to sell Clgiat;
of annelation between diarist dietrista, whisk
make each aulese to vie wish its mespetitorai and
Ito poises eel less=a if not a Maw and more cos-
ta* VMS of ea** imelndiso. Then was
yet oemethiag aeon to be otiosiderod—theeffiriessey of *ma-
tt* as well as its extent. How bad it suemeded in that
which was most confidently eaddpated to raise a banner
against aimisality t He was wren he wee teaching an
aarrggunment which those who was to take any logical
advantage of an opponentmaka esdaayear to turn against
him, and that it sight is apps, bat in appearance
°sly, be made to recoil epos eased* itself. He should
eathpavoar to gird against each ea infer** which was
altogether unwarranted by the facts. From tables pe-
es** to this house, the abstracts of two re-
turns, he derived these very atrikiag and Wpm
give realm, showing that *matt* se tow admi-
nistered had had comparatively little effect in the abate-
ment of crime. He took as years from 1837 to 1848 theta-
, dee, and would adopt the clamilleation of criminals now
Pmerally used elder four heads, namely—of those who were
limbs to read and write ; those able to read and write ins-
, pelectly ; those able to road sad write well ; and those
1 who had resolved • *petite edesation. Daring the years
same okras* as gross snout of crime had undergone
fried lostnalloos; M had risen, fallen, and risen spin ;
bat, in the robelve peportions of the criminals classified se
above, there had boss no *eh diversity, but a madmen+
the .lemon it was adapted to convey most
rprism etsive View bottom, the list—the least instructed
chit -W anti base** IMO 411sdael ; It had been placed
nadir awe beselosat hdloonsee than in former years, and
those inamosto had apses e& Duda( those twelve years
W per MOW 01 those emable to read and write had de•
aimed from 36.86 to 34•40. 83-63, sad so ea at last
to 31-93. Ia the same am the per enter awn
imals
who had remind an Instruction superior to reading and
writ* had also deers** from '43 to •37 per cent. This
the two extremes showed a decreasing proportion ; whilst in
the isteresediatit classes Wee who could read and write
imperfectly, and than who could read and write well—that
was to my, those trained awarding to the system of instruc-
tion now genitally practised in our iamb—the* had bees
ea increased per onstage : of those who could read and write
Imperfectly, from 63 8 to 66•38; and of those who could read
and write well there had been an tames@ also, but a very
tit ono. The great increase in the relative proportion of
had been a those who could read and mite toper-
, y—children who had been at the schools which now
*e-
g:a great mass of testi:action to the peeler classes.
, hem.) It was shows by the able pipes of Ri.
, the impeder of the Mak and Fades Bosiety's
Mho* this a fileaar.rosalt obtained. I. sohl--
111flib the total Mee* of oommiumole form VIM a tad 119 to
te, In, and et wain pr eat, the Weems la an *way _lloorant
1= I" peaboll sal *a*, lora* to the total eons.
tem 1541, 41, mid 44 la 416 end 47 he boat only
Weenie the dowers In the sleek has bees 11.5. per
There hid therefore been an taihames in criadaelity
Nemenpl Otos who enjoyed the thanstioned the schools as
they at sweat edded. Thee* *slim with the peat
majority of the house, that realms attraction was the
moat important that the child soul reasive, he had also a
conviction that to make that iodinates prams Ile posies
results, .there must be a preperassis odadzeire ei the
commaidosties Clatewledge gad of shot liable of that
faculties whisallo eimaneo parlance, was designated secular
teschleg. Moir, bow.) 'To' the want el this be ascribed
whatever time night be of failure in the efforts
*lt bad been so extensively made to benefit
H Mai gpmetation. Without this the religious they gave
the was more words. whom meaning ha did sot feel or
soingueliosi ; ho might repeat them, bat they did not sink
kis lb Wad. (Rear hear.) They required the atom-
=ether instruction, and the stimulusof his own re-
lbseades. (Hear, hear.) The results of the gaol
nelmmie Wine eke of a kind to best out this easvittion, and to
ammo our aleatiaraction with education as now generally
=. Ha would take the gaol returns presented In
eta he had seen ; and he would take the test
pm:wally applied by the gaol ctsaplains—whether the parties
eethedtted could repeat the Lord's Prayer—a very legitimate
bet to apply In this case. The children whose punts Might
these that prayer were not generally the children to find
:heir way into gaols—Omar, hear)—while those children
who had been abandoned entirely, the children of repro-
bate rarest% who had not been to school, would not
be able es repeat, even as a dry form of words,
that symbol of devotion wraith was so dear to
all Christine. He took, therefore, this test te
@operate the children. who had been at the existing
schools from them who had not. Of Mille there were ex-
ceptional cases, but they were not numerous enough to street
the argument ; end be assanted, if a child could repeat the
Lord's Prayer, that he had been at sews school or other,
British re oedipal, pablie or private, day i.r Sunday school.
(Hear, Mae.) In the eettaty gaol at Reeding, out of 631
pison. rs there were naly 204 ..ho could not squid the
Lore's Prayer, leaving 427 who had gone through al note iaal
education. In Cambridge county gaol, 61 oat of 229 wire
usable to repeat tka L)rd's Prayer, leaving there 168 who
had gone *rough a aoudad eilubatiass. In the Cornwall
county gaol there were 884 prisoners, of whoa 139 could not
bear this tad, leaving 446 this. who had gone through •
nominal education. Of 674 lerbaCers in the Dorset sees*
Clonly 67 were tumble to repeat the Lord's Prayer, lege-
-617 nossiio7 aseatad. In Lancaster county gaol, oat
of 803 primate?' 116 were in this predicament, leaving 488
nominally annteted. In the sowes county ,oat of 622
pewits* 80 were *sweat; bed* 442. returns
bore out to • huge extent the setea he had made. He

Mr. ANBTET ealtidthe a;:dolord tialeareftry of State
kr P Alain, wheth.r he would lay on the table of the
howee mph. of the iastraetlase to Admkal Sir
Petits. istatiesed at p. Mot- the Comer:ammo re
opeeNhebbiiarmilla mode apea the Greek govoraa_n7
twd miler= emy mat of her Majesty ia
IMMO. limbade the ports of Oreame-7Z
Maliribiolalaina war* Miegleg to Greek subjects I. *sir
pommies?
lad PALMERSTON the larractiose to Admiral
Mr MMus Parker had bias given by the Admiralty.
tau Mall II WM aanaml to nth* Orders of that
Mum
Ns ea
edgier to war ofOak her Majesty is over
NOM to explala perly epealtiag
M aliehablad alma pleas—Mat _ Mat bad beim dee*,
wee to *event rarely On.k mesele Moth ?Wog the meet.
of ISMS tetatatag oath as fell Me the eilmbil a Made se
liedum. No isterfeream bad hem mode aa regarded
Mt . AMITE! thought it Impeetauthe blew whether the
low-ollemo of the mews had Imes eemoshed Si to whether
eapelmle el that allure could be justlfled maw by lut order
of her Iblesty le esemall (Order.)
BNINUITANYSNIP AT THH MAIIRITIUSz

Mr. ADDSRLRY rind the lei pnUN~a the Vida.
Seershay kr the Colonies, whether the Int ear eL the
=yamst: the Mauritius Ma Nei been Aired Os Mr.
Rafter, sad whether the seam be stelisod he
oulosloi It wee That the dudes of such ea elks meld
sit be dheherrd by total mann to the sels ? lie
nine to know ia whet rupees Dar. Daly, who had boa
to the Aloe, was oineliewed better qualified than
(Oh.)
Mr. HAWS said he did sot think it seeeleary to weever
the qvardea—(bear, howl—or to go into the ramose whisk
induced the eppeiatiosst.
SURVEY OF YOUOMAL COAST.

Mr. ANiiiit Millalli 9069yeare ageotie Admiralty
promised se make a survey of the sea nest of Tiseghal. He
wished to USW whether that males had bees tallied ?
Mr. PARKER mid the rum of the oust Simms
Waterford sad Deaf/arms had ham place, and that mo-
bility it woad be =waded •• Tonkel.
DISEASE AND DEATH IN TIPPERARY.
Mr. SCULLY saki be had resolved alarming eseesate of
the :state of the safes of Tipperary. He wished to ask
whether the right bores . 'sideman the Secretary for Ireland
was aware that the maw of Wiest' la the hospital of that
maim was 700, mad the another of deeds fte the het few
weeks 40 or Arty a week ; and whether mem dip WI hem
token to 'pent the synod of disease lattiosta Mee ?
Sir W. SOMERVILLE mid he bad no papers reforrieg
to the Tipperary sinks, bet the lam dada sweats of the
mortally then would sot eattaialy warrant the staiemest
*t made by the hos. gentleman. The dae•guardions of
Pi= kit:seera Pa anatetratilery great 1142==saded dual
their pewee 16 cheek the ravages of Minim imi def.
(Hear, hear.)
ATTORNEYS' AND SOLICITORS' CERTIFICATE
DUTY.
Lead R. GROSVENOR loomed for leave to bring is a bill
to loped the esseneye mid Whims' maul asetilate duty.
He pawed the the am of patems whet skier be advo-
eme4 Omsk email to mehor, um by ho obsewster anti.
Obi to is emdid wadieretion el die Mme ; sad he the.
prom to slate the edge of the tees, and to *spiels he
mere mil . Ma insisted epos the Miriade sme-
shy ma Ity of the duty, and the Wein of Omen.
kg to elms the kgiehenre MA, is edam my, illmidlibei
the polls debt pesemden; end he pointed out the Wa-
de. memo Is ski& It mad epos tie amok of ateemem
mil *hoe. them 'epos the himmils lithe paella.
Mr. HATTER mid the opellem Woke* a aeledel
iindaution is the toad soseree, tho mime oeselosi kr
less anilines Meg UMW a leek Theo imeelsibesz
me, oweekkedlele eisseeloiwith thh Mt, toil*
move the all
sae Miss of a similar bed, emonstlig to viii
Om
1 VIM*, whisk we tee ems a (nudge to be Mora
el the Moe* emmets As dm iff of ilo
lop WlLiaqwhilhaylmemehl Witt Wee la Moss es lb,
IN id be *sold eielmilit al the
6111101101 E , the Mai of Mush.
Ma sont eliermthes km Sir P. Thefger, Mr. Cock-
les', ad Wm De Lacy Elam,
Led IL GROSVENOR sweated to the proposal, NA
the dilate was aossrdiugly adjourned.
EDUCATION
Mr. W. I.7olthsa me it sooe kw ham to blies laud'
to promo the wash, adastlion of this people is Wm* ad
Wales. It wee se hew somesery ii that oloulks
was good, good he the ladivi nod .he the
etmemity, that it hob to the ahatessout of aims ad to
the impostemest if mstality. Now, 'Meek it was MI
by sem this es the ems Mad it was die duty of
mat to eines theme** sad oa the stem that ediiiMls
wee a ipoe geselins, and that rakes was volneary
tad sli mot hue the interim's* id Levalssehienked
between them memos minket Om
a Mil. momblie CI memo mkt Mid Shen& dr;
geolommt lima not oboes the people, yet they would
nada a hyaline, Swede la providiag that the meld
should dente themembee, and it was ea- olog I
view that be hod asneinmei the omen Ala he
shoubi have is keine to salmi' te its
The aliens whisk lid less sands ter the poomelismoriZ
oaths were most homemade to all parties esweiewei Of
he leen (119 &toil bed yet forth a magnilleent Mem
of hewer and Weems la thus matters. Dimness
bass the tried friends ef edsmdes from the vsey begioniaglad
d *me ABMs whisk to mien times bad apnea it 90
Midi mow the poem deems ; and he believed the the
mmilibbee erjeri=twoemil on odocation had endeallessed,
weth peat cord test, to encourage them great
Sake who an asseest interest in the
to, yeemete dish Worts. to stimulate emu
what leggloy, sod to guide them whoa seems.
Be wisiesithe state of tie great bodies t That they
were la eilidom with each other ; that a ?rodeo of
M the ama thelety repudiated greats of the iw ;
that a large hay of dheentere, sad the Sri had Fip
School desimer_aleo repudiated them greets ; that the tem
Muse of spooMl had strives in vain to bring together
jorgeinmlimihalt roestyeLa and troZild i: Legere .
spook a reftegorde mommost had ventilated. Now, this
me a state of things most earnestly to be deplored. He
Mad that the Memo% the coogrogadoost diameters,
she a few pews sr iseheed that they would bars sieddig
to Ss wilbjeetooemono is this setter that they esti* eke
um
of 300,118•8., mai skew that their desmaimMesat
Ise,maid e, itself, had faded is that perms. m •
sans' thew pressed to bare mimed was GO pm emit of WI
Metiontpoopmed. Instead of 200,00 W ,only 80,0001 were is the
lois d ddr Ada calomel committee, sad they had ea-
upeassit, with lima hopefulness as to the fume resumption
of greats, that for the their greats to some schools
were seerealed. WhiLmtheallwes the ease with them, how
was it with the Bath:mid &deg ? He found by the last
publication of their =mail report, that "the support of

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 27, 1850.

...mares them rip by rhea adeekelems de similar der
geisha. I Rains procured by billvldneb from • greet
umbluttSgeekuiere of gash Wowed that est of nearly
6,1,111 3,000 M Met had bees at linotty esherbote.
waist other Mesh. He wee merely
lof *brew deem of widows, the ..51:=
ul Sliminess. let them take report after sad
would fleessvoyd anellneles revalts. The impeseeloh whisk
*titmice ed—of lbe usedful weenspeertment
males issermates and bstellemal training te 'tender Mb
taieducators valuable, mad enable it to redoes MP
to—semossi to bays beset imparted in a rester or lode
&gate Ito the Lade of aimed all thewitimememMilms.
stemmata of goof gutplalaSilicersers of resels imagellem of
Priemisilmlferstell IshOslel ill ;past ifs the me* lbw
oaten the ft laird WM exiticit site/saes bid
Meevadms., sin*, ilinzatalit Alltrwesittelltidee~ ism tio
Wiebiesetion • of ' writer willwas
very seldom attempted, lit. • Its sub he mad now
esteem, briefly to expleio the maidens of time bill which
highest-I ask haft trir IzYetiese. aid la WM he het on.
deawared set to segmeneie asp eximiefedinsellna, bat ta
wirier is ell wallehisoes the as pmellie,lier Mike ferik, fa
of the undenithie riefisimy, hod esertiene, ia we-
ina2l with that emenal anstriammdemne whisk would
reader them mem Mint. • premed theit the defl•
in thees=oe: tee BMW .1 edsselleL in say
Med bwy her Mejeste's impistersirklue' should
Is eadmithet thee;lr
maw, he would hare them take every ites of eds-
retread moldoery late emmunt,— siting wheels
British sad Melts malteds, Mode esemeMed with
religiose temead, wheels withmateny amok nennesdna,
pathos embeds, private Meals, if they submitted tn=
tins ; ke would have thine reputes any sad ell es
the mous of lastunkm fee she parade of Ihat dbuist, web
travelog the meth mina while might arise Om tee nerete
ba lOW inseams sod from eutheive esifgieaepm-
' Loathe Wag ealoreed ups. the children or
of
.osf
them it Cam lameness. The 'moat of the de of
shades being thus amertaieed, be proposed that the •
Ilty should be belted re supply it ; that the inhabitants et
the diarist Mold be summoned to elect so eduestion
mitts*, who Would have the enpigy of the deffeisasy fee
their peculiar work, sed be empowered to rate the Mr
MORO ter the expt We necessarily incurred in ambit mat
their plane. He WWII have continued regard to the mist-
fag ls. There were two means by which the wants of
the parish sr district, as regarded secular education, which
should be peculiarly the province of the committee, might be
met. Firm, as in the old schools and anions already existing,
by the menneratioa of the teacher for so many pupils as
We WWl* shen/m1 repot kiss to have efficiently instructed
fet the elemeis el maim adamtios; and, mmondly, by the
theme hen of sew easels le be preparly free schools—
sobs& to white way MAIMS of the perish OF dinned
Aida have the deft stbdist his 'Midas, between the
ogle Of 7 and 13, wiliest charge, without &Wadies in the
,Meatment end traiabg of the children, with no religions
peculiarities iocaleated upon them, .but with the right re
amed and inolienable. the tight of the parents to have, at
esetain convenient than fixed by the muter, their chil.
Ins instructed es to relies& where and by whom they
planed. (Hear, hear.) He also proposed that, on leer.
Lag the school, each child, hone, conducted itself to its
master's satisfaction, and in his estimation deserving by its
attainments, should have a present of books made, of which
the Holy Scriptures should always fore a portion—thus
putting that volume into the child's hand at a time when his
mind was most fitted for apprecleng its grandeur, and for
coming under its moral influences. (Hear, hear.) He pro-
posed that the teachers is then schools should be made as
Independent as possible. That they should be appointed,
paid, and dismissed bribe Mal sclusatioa committer, giving
them in the latter use an appeal to the committee of privy
council. And should an instance near were the locality
was so careless, isdulent, and neglectful of its duty as net to
undertake to provide for the deficiency, be would call upon
the committee of council on adulation to step in, and not to
allow that locality to become • sink of ignoraace, prejudice,
and vice, to its own disgrace and misery, sad a nuisance to
all the surrounding country. The lowers he proposed to
remounts by salutes fixing the minimum at such an
amount as should ensure them some condderable degree of
respectability In their social ;nation. This was of the very
utmost cossequesce. He relied ea the schoolmasters for
the adveassasent of the edwatiers (Hear, hear.) It was
only threw! their maw that we weld have any hope of
bettor and brighter iambs then sem we had witnessed.
(Hear.) He would 'timeline bownrable rivalry by the
radioed= by the eamndesee cier of a complete report,
from yaw to yew the elate of Nomad= in every, district
in the kinikw, these meets fiaAng their way into the
usual chaos* and te the table of that hoses; and thus pub-
licity and opinion would give their unction, and would be
found available he all purposes, for onemaging the merito-
rious, and for shamhisletiodiffirrine est ot their culpable
neglect of duty. He ho had said mains in the course
of his observations mild be feirgtsconstnied into
anything offensive towards ere n various bodies who
undoubtedly did so much for education. • proposed to
put no restraints upon them. Schools might still be erected
and endowed in the Wheat principles of thank educative ;
they might be put under the entire control of chrome',
and have bishops for visitors. He interfered not with any of
these. Oa the contrary those schools, of whatever kind,
which had assisted the state in sealing out, year after year,
a attain number of pupils qualified to take their place I.
civilised sonny would, Rader his scheme, receive their
reword wading to the work they had done.
(Hear, hear.) The religions bodies would have the
opportunity of giving instruction as heretofore, icons-
panted with their own peculiar religions opiates., and
would have the power of making the imparting of education
subordinate to what appeared to them a paramount purpose.
Hs did not think the lb/beaters would be found objecting to
his proposal because their schools would be left equal
freedom. And here he would observe that he adopted the
distinction so finely drawn by the hon. member for Surrey,
(Mr. Drummond) between " education " and " instruction."
By education he meant the complete training and drawing
forth of the mind. This could only be accomplished by the
highly gifted teacher or the affectionate parent. (Hear.)
Instruction, or the mere attainment of knowledge, was a
lower task which was to be accomplished by the agency of
the school and the effort. of the schoolmaster. He used the
ward education, however, for instruction, as the one
most commonly used to signify that which wea properly ex
pressed by the word " thstruction." Bat there wee another
class of prone whose co-operation was of the utmost im-
portance in working out any sperm of education—he meant
the working people, whom children were to be instructed
and trained. (Hear, hear) Unless they were with the
plan—unless they coincided with it and received it kindly,
and es a privilege for their children—although it should
have the sanction of the church and of different religious de-
nominations, it would not have that effect which it was most
devoutly to be wished it should have. Amongst that claw,
who.* intelligence was underrated by those who had not the
advantage of personal communication with them, a sturdy
intellect and moral sense prevailed which recoiled from
charity ; and whatever they might think of their feelings,
rights, and privileges, he thought this sturdiness of intellect
which was invariably the result of self-cultivation, though it
might not be accompanied by enamel culture, was entitled
to respect. (Hear, hear.) Thus people were indisposed to
send their children to 'Minh when they found them used
for the purpose of proselytism, and thus • suspicion of their
intentions was generated which he regretted to say was not
always unwarranted. (Hear.) It would be expected that he
should say something of the cost of the experiment he pro-
posed, bat It would be idle affectation to produce any figures
on such a subject. He would rework, however, that &et
impressions were likely to lead to a much over rated estimate
of the outlay. Tbe association for eduestioa is the !musty
of Lansaw made a calculation with great an, and they
knead that they could supply schools for the entire odiassalon
of the county by a rate of 41d. in the pound. The 111.0111111111 ef
their schools for children and adults were covered
by a rate of 61. in the pound. Such was the
estimate for providing edocation for the entire Wentry, Oat
II Rut be borne in mind that he proposed by hie Femme
ahem Ito provide met sly for the deficiency of ministion.
Then he asked to have a reasonable allowance made as me-
mo% of the diminished aims which would mak frea
education end moral training, and for the enormous sot of
unrestored property lost by theft. (Hear, hear.) The
poorer ratepayers would also find themselves repaid, and
overpaid, for what they would be called on to contribute for
withers, In the instruction which would be given to their
children. (Hear.) Snood this general view it weeld be
absurd to attempt to calculate the expenses of the ppha with
any degree of secitraey. He had already hwpaseed toe long
on the patience of the house, but he would ask their allow
dos for a few minutes longer. (Hear, hear.) He deposhdl,
en the character of the teachers for the success of Me plus.
(Hear, hear.) In that view he was warranted by a NMI
observation of the noble lord at the head of her tibiae?,
government, made three years when this came topic of
education was under discussion. Herald• , "it has always been
my view that you can never effeetually rah* education is
I this country till you raise the cooditioe and prospects of
the teachers of schools." (Hear, hear.) That was what he
(Mr. Fox) wished to do by the Wary he recommended is
the measure to the masters of free mithoole. And if any one
questioned the essential Importance of the masters of schools
he would refer him to the Isle of Ilea, when the suet per-
feet system of education to be 'found in the world existed on
paper, for every parish had its school, the rate payers had a
share in its menagement, and every parent was made to
send his children to school; yet, notwithstanding all this,
these children were in a more forlorn audition than an
children in the country. (" Hear, hear," and laughter)
He prayed the house to think of the corHiles of
tIOUSOOdS upon thousands of children is this washy, to
think of the Mahn which had thriven on soils from which
y
the had hoped
it
wriedenbt:r.ly *ball die k,Vo'thaitlds orthhtshe ey
to ne pre-eceu
ides which continued to send forth their" hordes of untwisted
savages" upon society, who seemed to derive from civilisa-
tion itself facilities for becoming more unwholesome annoy-
ances to it—he would have them think of the overcrowded
gaols, the hulks, and the reluctant colonies—he would have
them think of the peace, quiet, and good order which
would spread amongst the homes of the well disposed, by
the general training and moral culture of the people—he
would have them look to the higher motives of patriotism,
*44 nu-i ler that the intellect and moral lustre of their
enuntry had been a glory superior to that even of its npre-
many in arts and arms—he would have them look to
the higher objects, which, when the purpose. ef civil
society had been accomplished, still remained to be sealised
in the individual, who, by the mans which they could af-
ford, would be better qua to fulfil the great purpose for
which)e had been formed by • bemeleent Creator. (loud
shun. The hon. gentleman *misted by moving for leave
to bring in the bill.
Mr. BLANEY seconded the motion. He would my but
very little after the very able aid temperate speech of the
boa. 'amber for Whale. BM he must remisd the house
that it had bum peeved below • memaittee which bad sat as
this subject in Mull 1 he 110 of Ike perdition of Woe

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B. INGLIS
by expos
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'thistles, 11a 27 la Leeds, sad 1

to iddree eke Muse, sad bad oam-
' his wirpriss skit sae of her Majesty's
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ii.
VIIIHRSILIA got Alp amidst much laughter, and
that kis hen. hind, Hse mamba for the University of
' seemed to have Omuta Mat one of her Majesty 's
would hoc ohm end stated the view taken by
theripreerantent, of the motion of the bon. member for 04.
km. He did act hesitate to say, that he hoped the house
IMO net refs,* paneled= to the bon. member to bring In
lona. Tait. lisar.r Ile did tioTTIENk flial say one" could
M an Oat plass, doubt the great important* of the sobjest.
And Is the next pion tee ass could say that *downs was
la nth a state in Hogglend that no farther menues wen
'lnning; Mit thus was not much to be lamented is the
present deficiently of means of "adoration; that there was
not mash to be deplored even in the ednation which we.
given ha many places, but there was still more to be de
plored in the abuses of education amongst the great
suer of the whose instruthm lortidlauira
whose moral and religious tralielau so deeply no-
mooed the welfare of the whole Magian. (Hurl
Hsu& were the ease the °sly question was whether to hes-
member for Oldham bad approached the subject's the fltehig
spirit, whether biSwas deeply Impressed with the importance
of the task which he had undertaken, sad whether the
object be had in view was to provide for the better educa-
tion, not of a portioa—not of one ent—bet of all clams of
the people. Beery one must, he thought, acknowledge
that the spirit in which the boa. gentleman ape
proashed the question was sae worthy of the subject,
that ha bad sated fully and ably the deaciesoles of edema-
doe, that he seemed clearly to perceive what Ike wants were,
and that whatever might be the merits of his plan, his
ineliastion was to produce one which should not *hails
jeering contentiont, but rather to utile the varies opinions
which prevailed oa this subject. (Hear, hear.) If that was
the eon, he ensidered it soffleint for the house to indium it
to secede to the request of the hon. gentleman to lay his bill
on the table. (Hear, beer,) As to the firthsr question of the
merits of the hos. gentleman's plea, whether A would over-
come the difficulties which beset thls subject, whether it
world be viewed favourably or otherwise by public opinion,
and how it would be received by those who were at pre.
sent engaged in the work of *donation, whose services that
house was bound to honour—(bear, bear)—he thought it
better not to enter upon that subject with the imperfect
knowledge they possessed of the boa. gentleman's plan.
(Hear.) lie thought that a bitter course than to offer ob.
jections at that time which it saigbeafterwards appear were
not founded in the nature of the plan Resit He would only say
in record to one part of the hon. gentlemen's statement, that
he d end from :fret in his view of the present state of the
different societies for catryiag on education, sad of their
failure of late years in befog able to extend it His impres-
sion was, that though the great effort proposed to be made
three or lour years ago, did not result in @ohne an extensioa
as was contemplated of by both the Chunk society, and by
societies belonging to different religions bodies, yet the re-
sult of thew efforts as compared withithe total amount and state
education a few years before would show a socsiderable
increase in the means of education in this country. (Hear,
bear.) Ho should cordially concur in lamenting to its intro.
deletion. (Hem, hear.)

Sir It. INGLIS said that whilst he gave the hon gentle-
man credit for the temper and ability with which be intro-
duced this question, he confessed he could not clearly see t►e
principle on which hie propositioa rested, nor the: object at
which it aimed. The hon. gentleman said that the question
was so longer surrounded by the difficulties which
formerly beset it, and that it was no longer the question
Whether they would give or refuse education. He (St It.
Inglis) rather thought the question was what was education.
According to the boa. gentlemen's view education seemed to
be limited to those ►ranches of instruction which terminated

with man in this world, sad he omitted altogether the con-
sideration of his eternal distioy for which this world
was bet the short and should be the most fitting
preparation. He begged the hon. gentleman to reconsider
his statement that the condition of education was lower in

this country than ini;nyalTer in Europe. The hon. gentle.
man said that this country was behind Prussia, Saxony, and
France in education. Would the hon. genet man wish to
ha» that sett of education in this country which ban* krth
in those heihad mentioned two years ago in »volution ?
(" Oh.") The h.n. member for Middlesex cried " oh," but
he should like to ask that hon. gentleman if he
had not reason to be glad and to thank God for
the character of the people of this country on the
10th of Asil, 1848. He did not place much reliance
on statistic* and mere numbers, but the moral feeling
of the people of this country rell.cted the highest
credit on those who produced it. The hon. gentleman
than referred to domestic statistics, and compared the
education of several counties in this country. Now, he
happened to be connected with • pariah which would not ap-
pear in the return from which the hon. gentleman quoted,
because the educational establishments within it were sup-

ported entirely by the resident proprietors; yet be believed
the education in that !wish was of the very highest and
most extensive kind. Not mesh Mimes, therefore, could be
. .

placed on the statistics of the hon. ientleman. (Hear,
hear.) He appealed to the National Society, to their
catalogue of books and varied and numerous collection
of maps, and begged to ask were not these evidences that
secular education went on coincident with religious, and
if the minds sad understandings of the pupils were not im-
proved as well as enlarged by that system ? (Hear, hear.)
The hon. gentleman, in introducing the bill, seemed to think
that there were schools when religion, and religion solely,
was taught. Now he denied that such was the case, and
unwed, on the contrary, that in ell schools with which he
(Mr R. H. Inglis) was acquainted—and they were not a",hw
—u lugs an amount of secular education was bestowed on
the pupils as could be found in any of the schools on the
Continent. (Hear, hear.) That was a question of fast,
on which he only stated his own personal conviction
and belief. (Hear, hear.) Howevi r, at that moment, at
he understood there was no intention of dividing the house
on the subject, he would not do more than merely recur to '
• proposition which he submitted to the government some
time ago, which was, that they would make up their minds
as soon as possible as to the amount of encouragement they
would allow lay members, amateurs in leghlation, to bring
in bills and call for the sanction of the house for them.
(Laughter, and " Hear, hew.")
Mr. M. MILNES said that were he to set about replying
to the observations of the hon. baronet who had last ad-
dressed the house, it might have the effect of provoking •
general discussion, which, in the present stage of the mea-
sure, was not at all rosemary. (Hear, hear.) He took it
that on the occasion of the second reading of the bill full
and ample opportunity would be afforded hon. members of
expressing their opinions in reference to the important
question—the establishing more universally than here-
tofore a system of secular education. (Hear, hear.)
He felt certain the hon. gentleman who brought forward
the measure, se well as many others who would support it,
could not but feel aggrieved at the imputation that they
disregarded religious education in the measure then sub
mined to the house. However, they did consider that reli-
gious and secular education rested upon different grounds ;
that one was capable of enlargement and susceptible of en-
coragemeat, whilst the other was not, and that the state
might interfere with one when it could not with the other.
He (Mr. Mimes) should declare that he would be prepaid
to give the measure kis most full and cordial support.
Mr. HUME was most anxious that no difference of opi-
nion should then be raised on the bill, which had been so
ably introduced by his hoe. friend Mr. Fox. However, he
could not refrain from declaring his conviction that his hon.
friend the member for the University of Oxford bed largely
misstated, probably not understanding, the nature of his hon.
friend's proposition. The hon. member for the University
of Oxford assumed that secular education was the sole object
of the bill, whilst he (Mr. Hume), on the contrary, under-
stood his hon. Irina to embrace in his plan religious as well
es ;secular educetien. (Hear, bear.) The hal. member
for 'the University of Oxford said there existed
a difference in the minds of many as to what
education was. He did not know what the hen.
member's definition of education might be, but he (Mr.
Hume) considered that mental training which fitted a seas
to be • good and useful member of society, no less fitted him
for being a good and religious member. (Hear, hear.) The
hon. member for the university of Oxford also alluded to
state religion and state education, though his hon. friend, in
introducing the measure, gave no grouad whatever for any
inch supposition, but merely wished that parliament should
make it compulsory ea property to supply the educational
deficiency that at :present existed. (Hear, hear.) He
pointed out the lamentable results of vice and crime that
arose from ignorance, and suggested that perliameut should I
adopt the best means of remedying suck evils, which were
deplored by every man in the community who vetoed life
and property, or the well being of society. (Hear,
bear.) Let them remove the ignorance that at
present prevailed, and substitute information in its stead ;
and they might rest assured they would soon have good and
moral citizens. (Hear, hear) If ever there was • time
when the question of education might be brought forward
with advantage, that time wee the grunt. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. FLUMPTRE said : like undesired the ites.At
rasa aright, schools were to be pea a resew e
denominations, and that there was to Mae religiose bestrew
tion—(" no, no," from Mr. Fox)—that, in feet, religion wee
to be systematiely excluded. (No.) Now, as regarded that
education
plan of for the great masses, he, for one, should
solemnly protest against it as one to which he never could
and n ould give his conseat.
Mr. B. OSBORNE agreed with the noble lord at the bead
her Majesty's government that they would best do their duty
by the bill on the present occasion by not entering runway
into Its details. In fact, the bill was so misrepresented and
so misunderstood, which, he doubted not, was the cause of the
misrepresentation, that they were not in • position to discuss
it. However, he could not sit still without paying his tri-
bute of gratitude—humble as that tribute might be—to the
bon. member for Oldham, for the manner, the able and
statesman-like manner, in which he addressed himself to the
question that evening. (Hear, hear.) It hail seldom been
his (Mr. Osborne's) pleasure to have listened to a speech,
that gave him such unmitigated satisfaction, • speech
which he doubted not would have • most telling effect
net alone upon that house, but on the country in general.
(Rear, hear.) In his opinion the hon. member (Mr.
Fox) had fully proved the necessity. for • universal
system of ideation ; because, referring again to the
ever-memorable 10th of April, it was found that the people
of Middlesex, who were admittedly the most generally edu-
cated, were amongst the firmest anholden of law and ceder
on that very day. (Hear, hear.) Els (Mr. Osborne) did not
attach much importance to univereity careers. If there was
a period of his life which he could wish to have blotted from
hie recollestion, it was the period spent by him at Can-
rett:r or here, he should my, he learnt 1110111 via than in his
enbeequent life. (Laughter.) Me supported
the regent measure, bemuse it app smelt to the
national spasm of illegal= whisk prevailed in Inlaid.

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