The Express.
London, England, 1850-03-13 00:00:00

ADMISSION OF JEWS INTO THE HOUSE.

Mr. P. WOOD, in reference to hie notice of motion for a
relict committee to search the journals of the house, and to
report precedents as to Jews or other pumas being admitted
to take their seats in parliament without bring sworn on
the holy gospels, appealed to the hog. member for West
Surrey to allow this motion to take precedence of that hon.
gentleman's, on the ground that it might have been pursued
se • matter of privilege, and he had nun to believe that
the diusiaibn would not be long.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND said if this question were a matter
of privilege, it might have been brought ca at any time
within the last three yeas; and if her Majesty's ministers
were very anxious on the subject, they might have taken
some other night than one of the few nights devoted to
the motions of individual member.. He should, therefore,
go on with his motion whenever he wee called upon.

TAXATION AND EXPENDITURE.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND, who was indistinctly heard
in the gallery, then proceeded with the motion of which
be ball given) notice, " that where the present taxa-
tion of the country depresses all claws, and especially the
labouring clews, by diminishiag the hinds for ths employ-
ment of productive labour, it Is the opinion of this house
that adequate means should be forthwith adopted
to reduce the expenditure of the government."
He did tot ask them to retrace their steps, or
to follow his policy ; but he asked them to be ho•
nest, and to follow up their own. If free trade
were anything more than the ay of a faction
to get themselves into office, he asked them to carry it out
and be couisteut. The country wu now suffering because
they had stopped in the middle; and they gave ell sorts of
Hatay excuses for that stoppage. They might depend on it
they must follow it out. He wee very anxious to keep the
present ministers in their plasee—(laughter)—and as there
was a certain conviction that if they were out of place,
and on the opposition side of the house, they would vote for
this motion, be was only afraid the house would be provoked
to put them out in order to gain that vote. He wished them
to keep exactly where they were, till they were compelled to
follow out their own policy. They would soon be compelled
to adopt this motion. The farmers had begun to reform ;
they had taken it Into their heads, in many
poor-law unions, to negative motions made for
adequate remuneration to officers of the unions.
Their notions of adequate remuneration might be different
from what many hon. members would entertain ; but they
had precisely the some notions with respect to public ser-
vants. There were two things which he called on the 110-
Torment to do—to reduce their expenditure, lepesially in
the matter of salaries; and to be honest tree traders, by
taking off all the restrietlons on the growth of raw produce
of say kind. Having quoted a letter conelemningjudicdal
naiades as too high, he said be had a still more valuable au.
thority In favour of reduction. A Kent farmer, whom he
met at dinner the other day, had written him as follows :
This males I have made Inquiries relative to the redactions my
neighbour Lard Oattenhaia, has lately mode in his labourers'
wages. (Hear.) It Is as. per weak, nearly one4serth—(boar)—
only empties his metes,, who are surged by the year, sad to
whom be premien • gallar redestion alter iikkantrau neat.
(o hear,. and laughter.) Tide Is what the whirs call, with
their usual asir.eompieeesey, ths improved coadltket of the labourer,
arising treat tree trade, which, as regards the one of the farm
labourer, means a bars Woken lasnounse, and very starvation In
winter. (Hoar, hear.)

. This was too bed of his Roble friend, Lord Cottenb am who
was • whip sad a radial, too. He was very hot, indeed,
on the Refine Bill, bat It was wendertal how people got
enlightened when they get into eMes. (Hear, hear.) He
had the =meat of knowing the noble lord, and It was im-
partible to select anybody whose seam of adequacy of re.
summation was twee delicate, or who was mon keenly
elbe to the advantages of good will. (laughter.)
No had ressived hone • farmer en account of the avenge
poodwas of Ida land, taken from his fann book. • for an ye. rs
oimowallewitle 1842, the average had been 1,0421. • for the
bag pearl lad been 6721., and he had paid 3001. for
MN& ink was the diminution of the real property of the
ram% gnawed anintandonally, to doubt, by recent
Mellmilrea. The "Memo, to this man was just 38 per cent.
Velher speaking of the redaction of local taxation said be
vow 100 loads of wheat yearly, which wastaxation,
now barely worth
1,0001., while • few ears ego it had produced MON. N
ble reds/Mon of local burdens could compessate for that
liferase~. (Hear, hear.) The free trade measures had
lowered the value of produce, but had not lowered the wet
of production; that was the point In which these measures
IMO faulty. lie knew three yeomen who respectively
be labour 3821, 4861., and 1,8001. ; net one of them bad
derived the slightest relief from the fall in the price of labour,
except in one instance, when the wages had been reduced
from 12s. to Bs. • week, and the greatest discontent was
expressed. There were 280,000 landed proprietors in
this country ; out of that number 2,50,000 were owners of
from hall an acre to 600 acres ; and it war these
, not the tenant-farmers exclusively, not the land-
leads had other mesas of relief, who mainly suffered
from recent legislation. (Hear.) In 1723, when the duty
an wit was only 4s. a quarter, the consumption was at the
rate of five bushels per head all over the king-
-60111. In 1829, when the duty was 20s. Bd., the
osesumption was only one bushel one gallon per
head. In 1831, the duty beteg still 20s. Bd. but the
boor bill having been repealed, it rose to two In:libels per
head. In 1840, the duty on malt was increased, and it again
fell to one bushel ; and there it nearly remained, the con-
=ties had not increased at all. He trusted this motion
put the sincerity of • great number of persons to the
Met. It was very easy to go down to a hustings, and abuse
the larded aristocracy, and say that they kept up the
standing army, and so forth, for their own benefit. (Hear,
hear.) But if who did so were impartial, honest men,
looking only to the public good, they would be willing to
have not only cheap corn, bat cheep everything. He
believed • great number of votes were given in net noose
Jest he proportion as some other end was to be served,
sad not from the motives declared on the hustings.
These wen the two pointa on which he should insist. He
whited not to screen the rich—not to protect the landlord
aisle= the labourer. Let them put • property tax on the
beard if they pleased; but, whatever they did, let them
remove the burdens which oppressed the labourer. (Hear.)
Mr. CAYLBY, in seconding the motion, expensed his
areadva Is the views of the hon. gentleman who bad
prowled Um. His hon. friend who brought forward this
melba sal himself were c3usistent in the course they now
Moab. They had both entieipated the mischievous results of
the late free trade legislation; those mischievous re-
sales were now ueiversally admitted ; and one
co was, the necessity for • reduction in the
tore. But how happened it that, at this particular
juncture, the hen= was uaanimous in calling for economy
end retrenchment? The demand seemed to have been anti.
dpated by the government; and he wished to know bow
they had come to anticipate it? According to the prir ciples
of the free traders, it ought to have been • tune for inert using
expenditure. Who expected free trade to make us poorer?
It was always said it would enrich the country and incre..se
the revenue. (Hear, hear ) Wes a disposition to parsimony
and niggardly economy a symptom of increased prosperity
For the last 30 years we had been pursuing the phantom of
cheapness; and wh an approximation hao been made
to the extremity of declension in prices, the country had,
with one voice, condemned the system. This tad been the
we in 1816,1822, and 1835, years marked by sudden and
prat declensions in price. Now that free tea le was the
law el the land, why was not the country pros-
pc. roue ? lie should like to hear the reason anigaed by the
geutlemen holding free trade principles. Was the country
better satisfied,—were the working climes better satisfied?
One of the concomitants of this cheapneu had been an
increase of crime in • far greater proportion than the in-
crene of population; while In France there had been •
diminution of crime during the same period. Corn had
fallen from 108 a. a quarter, in 1811, to 44.. in 1849 ; in
round numbers, GO per cent.; and yet they ware told that
chenille's was advsetageousto the working claret. It had
been too much the fashion of late only to compare the last year
with the one immediately preceding—a year of great distress.
It was because he wbhed to see the labourer obtaining
wages enough to support himself that he desired protection
for agriculture, and native industry generally. If it meld
be proved by argument—and what was still betterthen argu-
ment, if it could be proved by practice and fact, that the
working classes as a body were bett. r fed and better clothe d
under a low price than under a high price of corn, he for one
would be a convert to the doctrine of free trade. But in his
experience, and it was net a very short one, he never knew
that to be the can. (Hear.) Oa the coe.trary, the country
suffered more under low prices, and therefore it this
cheapness were allowed to go on further than it
had been, his noble friend at the head of the government in-
stead of brine staggered by the proposition of the hon. mem-
ber for the West Riding, for • reduction of 6,000,0001. of
expenditure, must prepare himself Icr still mine than that.
In conclusion, he alluded to the "significant corr. spondence
between the millions of the revenue and the shillings in the
price of cern," and contended that, as regards the tree trade
experiment, the government had advanced one stage only out
of man y,at each of which wester diftu.ties would be met with.
The question having been put,
Mr. FOX AMBLE said that when a motion of sorb en
Lade finite character, es the present was brought before the
house, and when it was supported by its mover .red secenth r,
in language so vitally different from the motion itself, it was
the duty of the government at once to ante the mole in
which they intended to deal with it. (Hear, hear.) When
he looked at the motion of his hen. bleed, he found it to
contain an assertion, and to end with a conclusion in which
he entirely agreed. Every bed would cancer that taxation
was • disagreeable burden, and that it was right to take
every possible means to get rid of it; but when he came to
the speech of his hon. friend, he thought he discerned in it
more than met the eye in the revolution which he prepend.
He thought he discerned in that speech a propoai'ion to deal
with the public income, without reference to the
faith which was due to the public creditor. (Heat.)
[Mr. Drummond indicated dieseut.] Ile thought he saw
in that speech, • reckless attack on the salaries
of individuals, particularly of the judges, and the hon.
gentleman concluded by • geceral attack on the pulley
adopted in 1846, and in subsequent years. The seconder ct
the motion made the question 'beget= r one of prztYetien
and free trade. Now he was prepared to say that all ex-
perience had shown that the poky adopted in 1846 was one
which conduced to the happiness of the country, and pro
meted the comfort of the great majority of the people.
(Hear, hear.) And let the opposition to that pence cc me in
what shape or from what quarter it might, her Majeety 's
government would be prepared to combat it, and to
proceed in that direction which in their opinion the
country had en successfully entered upon. (Cheer..)
With regard to the course pursued by his hon. friend
who brought forward this motion, he did not think be
was very consistent, for be thought he could recollect the
time when his hon. friend, instead of considering cheap
corn the bane of the agricultural interest, thought that
cheap corn wes the farmer's best friend, when he thought
that the landlord's monopoly of corn was the heaviest charge
upon the country, when he said that the landlords and
their families were the only persons who gained by the
tax on corn, and when he advised them to get
rid of that tax as soon as possible [for the benefit of
those whom he now said were injured by its removal. (Hear,
hear.) His hon. friend said that whilst they had removed
the protection on production, they had not attended to the
cost of production. Wu that the cam ? What constituted
the cost of production? Was it not the seed ? (Hear.) That
was one item. Then the manual labour employed in ,
producing was cheaper, and the east of maineaining horses
was also made cheaper. His hon. friend pointed to a reduc-
tion In salaries as a mode of reducing the expenditure, and
he referred in particular to the salaries of the judger. Now,
the melee'', of the judges had been reduced not many years
ago, and there was at that moment a measure before the
legislature for reducing the salary of the Chief Justice of
the Court of Queen's Bench from 10,0001. to 8,000/., and
for the prospective reduction of tho salary of the Chief
Justice of the Common Pleas from 8,0001. to 7,0001. No
doubt these were larp salaries compared with dime which
wen paid in other countries; but considering the im-
portance of a pure administration of justice, and the high
character for purity,. impartiality, and sprightnees, which
the administration of justice had acquired in this country, he
cautioned his hon. friend and the house to be careful in
dealing with the salaries of the judges. (Hear, hear.) They
should take into consideration the sums which were earned
at the bar in this country, and if they wished to have met I
leave the bar to put on the ermine, they must gin them
such salaries as would enable them to live in comfort and
respectability. The example of America bed been alluded to.
The judges in that country received exceedingly low tannin,
and when they reached 60 years of sire, no matter how great
their experience and however unimpaired their intellect,
they were obliged to give up their judicial functions, and
some of them Returned to tke bar and pleaded in those very
courts where they had ?ruffled as jueges. (Hear, hear)
He presumed from the indication which his bon, friend bad
given, that he would not interfere with the interest of the
public debt, • that be could not interfere with the civil list
granted to the crown ; that he would not interfere with the
charges on account of the non-effective service of the army,
navy, and ordnancr ; which were ea much sanctified by
public faith as any contract coald be ; and with respect to
the salaries of the judges, he would again caution his hon.
Wiendbefore he interfered with them. Now all these amounted
is a round sum to 34,000,0001.; the hon. melba for the
West Riding allowed 10.000,0001. fur their military erma-
swats that made 44,000,0001. ; the miscellaneous estimates,
which 'attained some charges that might pvrhaps be re-
eased, amounted to 3,800,00111. This made the whole expendi-
ture of the country 47,000,00 W., according to his calculation.
lbw he would ask his hon. friend where was the margin out
if which his hon. friend would reduce taxation to any ex-
Mat that would afford visible relief to the industry of the
owastry ? He hoped the house would not sanction emotion so
vague in its character, the effect of which, if ca. tied, would be
to spread dismay thrown/nit the country. Feeling tint the
wordlog of the proposition was so abstract in Its nature, he
I would meet it by moving the previous question. (Cheers.)
Mr. MANGLES dissented from the conclusions set forth
In Mr. Druannond's motion, and felt strong doubts of that
hon. member's political consistency. He believed that the
ante of the labourers had latterly improved ; and, speaking
from facts that came within his own knowledge, came to the
conclusion that the (armors could teeny meet the fall In
prices by practical improvements in cultivation.
The question having been put,

Bir B. PEEL, in reading over the wi rla of that
motion, should ay he would dishy no batter pre-
mises ter the principles adopted in 1842. There was not, in
feet, a conclusion that might not be justified from these pre-
mises. The motion sit out by stating that "at present
taxation depressed all chums, and particularly the labouring
classes ; therefore the legit'mate inference was that thet
house was of opinion that it acted wisely in 1842 by
removing the testrictions that existed as ',girded
the re of food and diminishing taxation. (Hear,
hear.inference? Was not that a fair (Hear,
hear. As regarded that portion of the motion
which referred t, present taxation, the inference also was
that that house was of opinion it would be devirable, as soon
. . .

as convenient, to :tellurie the other Wee that at present
premed heavily on the comforts of the working and labouring
dames. (Hear, hear.) lie denied that the hon. gentlemen
might not draw these conclusions from the premises or.
which he set out. (Hear, hear.) It would be desirable to
revert to the principle of taxation before 1842, when even
the raw material on which the industry of the labouring
classes depended was taxed. But even still would it be in
the power of the hon. gentleman to draw his conclusions
from the premises on which he started, and to require that
taxation should be restored to its former amount
on all mitten requiring protection. That which
his honourable friend meant, he doubted not, was,
that the taxation that remained pressed hewed, on
the Industry and comfort of the labouring classes, and
therefore it was desirable that all practical economy should
be introduced. (Hear, hear.) That he believed to be the
nature of hie motion. He (Sir It. Peel) agreed with the
hon, gentleman who seconded the motion, that the merits of
the commercial policy that bad been adopted should be
mainly tested in order to give an answer to the question
before them ; and that the social condition of the laboutir g
classes should not be overlooked or dinegorded. (Hear,
hear.) Then, bad the social condition of the labouring class
been improved, and had their comforts been enlarged or
thumbed ? (Hear.) Looking at the labouring classes gene-
rally—whether there had been a diminution in the amount of
wages received by them he was not going to argue—had
their commend over the comforts of lite been inesetted by
the abolition of the legislative restriction on food—that was
the question? (Hear, hear.) The hon, gentleman said,
and said truly, if they could point out and prove to him
that the principles of free trade had added to the comforts
of the people tend the labouring classes, he would not longer
oppose them. (Hear, hear.) He (Sir H. Peel) admitted
that was the test by which the merits of the present greet
question were to be tried. If the condition of the labouring
classes had improved, then the hon. gentle man allowed that
no other irnsideratim could prevail to justify the continu-
ance of the protection which he considered necessary. The
hon. gentleman admitted that protection could not be justified
sinless by its continuance they were conducing to the inter-
ests of the working classes. Now, en far as they could judge
at present, by the administration of the poor laws, the num-
ber of unemployed, and the condition of the rural districts,
they had no right whatever to infer that the social comforts
of the agricultural classes had been curtailed. (Hear, hear.)
To be sure, there were parts of the country which, to hie
own knowledge, were in a state of distress; but speaking of
the agricultural classes as a body, he doubted whether...at
that moment, after the abrlitton of protection, they did not
enjoy a greater command than formerly over all the enjoy.
meets of sacisl life. (Hear, hear) The hon, gentleman
asserted that there existed great distress at present ; why,

there had been great distret;at all periods, elrea when pro-
*teflon existed. (Hear, hear.) In the years 1822, 1833,
1636, and 1842, protection existed, but in etch of these years
agricultural distrem was etre steeply felt. (Hear, hear.)
As regarded the general growing of hope, it might be legiti-
mate that the Inn. gentleman shoule desire it. He resided
in a picturesque district of country, and no doubt it would
add much to the effect of the scene to SCO the labourer, as
picturesquely attired, gathering the abundant hops, for the
purpose of applying them to home use and manufacture.
(Laughter.) The hon. gentleman appeared to have great
sympathy with the men wLo were growing their own hops,
end paying a heavy duty on them ; but if he glanced over
other than the hop districts—at Paisley and Lancashire—and
ascertain the state of feeling there, he would Sod that
tho privilege to grew hops would not compering for the
duty, lately abolished, on articles of existence. (Hear.)
The hon. gentleman surely did not imagine that tin per-
mission to grow hops and tobacco would be regraded as •
boon, whilst vetch articles as co.°, butter, cheese, beef, and
pork, were taxed and restricted. (Hear, hear.) He (Sir
R. Peel) was strongly impressed with the necessity cf
economy, but yet he could not Tots the other veining with
the hon. gentlemen the member for the West Riding of
Yorkshire, because he believed that many of the recitals in
his motion were not correct, and also because the principle
of
reducing the expenditure to what it had been in 1835
was fallacious as regarded the present. (Hear.) He (Sir
B. Peel) had the new to he First least of the Treasury
in the period referred to, when the low estimates were
adopted. However, he aeould soy that subsequently the
government were urged into on enlargement of tape 'thanes,
and at a period when they had every reason to conciliate the
country—the property tax being then about to be :ntrodriced
—he was compelled, in 1845, to increase the army depart-
ment by 5,000 over the estimates. (Hear, hear.) la 1835
the consideration of pubic vet vices alone iefluenced retrench-
ment ; but looking at the cendition of the country in 1815—
looking at the vast strain on the physical strength of their
army for want of relief, and the expectancy of sympathy
from the country on their behalf that they should
not be, as it were, banished teem their country
on foreign stations for ever—the government felt constrained
to Increase by 5,000 their army estimate. (Hear, hear.)
Bat he begged to tell the honourable gentleman,
from past experience, that when the House of Ct. 011111717 saw
a gov.roment who appeared to be impressed with the ecce-
sity of retrenchment, and who were proceeding in that
course, he (Sir R. Peel) ilcubted if it was not better for the
house to stand by and pen:. it the govzmment to take their
course rather Oats to obstruct them with general declarations
of economy. (Leud cries of " Hear, hear.") He had no
cootideum in the obstructing system of economy now and
then indulged in by that house. (Hear, hear.) He knew
how apt the house was to be seized now and
then with • hot and mild fit of economy and
stern retrenchment. (Laughter and " Hear, bear.")
He would not introduce the question of the advantages or
disadvantages of • reformed ointment ; hut this he must
say, that he did not believe a reformed parliament bad, for
a succession cf years, promoted ecouou y by the cents,
which it bad pursued. As the result cf some experience,
he must declare that the government with which he was
connected, and other goveramentsehad had very great clite.
culty in prosperous times, and when the hot fit as to ex-
penditure was on the Rouse of Commons, in resisting the
desire of the House cf Commons that the expenditure of
the country should he increased. (Hear, hear.) And
therefore, although he did not deny that whenever there
miebt be • pressure on same class, there woo a great desire
fur immediate r.trencbment ; yet he had more con-
fidence in the progrees.ve reflecting retrenchment
affected by a government, than in the varying
and vacillating policy of the House of Cemmone,
with regard to the principles of retrenchment. Well, now,
with regard to the motion, he must say. teat such a resolution
would justify the country in entertaining au expectation
that there was about to be a vast retrenchment of the public
expenditure. Why come to • reso:ution of that kind, unless
they meant to follow it up by great practical reductions ?
In what items of expenditure could such reductions be
made ? (Hear, hear.) He was szry. to hear his hon.
friend talk rather loosely about preserving faith with the
public creditor. (Hear, hear.) Considering the name of
his hon. friend, his connexions, his position, his high
character, he must say he thought it unworthy of his
position or character for him to countenance lax
notions with respect to the imperativo obligation of pre,
servine faith with the public ciedator. (Herr, hear.) Bat
in what great department of expenditure did his hon. fri. ad
propose to effect reductions? Was it the *elegies of public
officers? If so, would it not be much better to wait until the
hon. member for Oxfordshire (Mr. Henley) repeated the
motion of which he had given notice, and to diocese the
question on its own intrinsic merits, than to prejudice the
discussion by a vague and general resolution. (Una.) What-
ever his hon. friend might say, he did not believe he would
consent to diminish the confidence of the public creditor.
(Hear, hear.) Neither did he believe that his honouree's
friend contemplated a reduction in the civil list. He
thought he would concur in the posidon which the hon. gen-
tleman opposite (Mr. Cob& u, as was undentood) had laid
down the other night, that an engagement having been
contracted with the crown by parliament at the et mmence-
ment of the present reign, that solemn engagement ought to
be maintained with her Majesty. Could the house hold out
to the country an expectation of a great reduction in the mi-
litary expenditure? Why, what was the vote which the
house had come to on the previous night? (Hear, hear.)
On Tuesday, the 12th of March, they were asked to encou-
rage a general expectation on the part of the country that
adequate means would be forthwith adopted to reduce the
public expenditure ; on the previous night [An
honourable member : " This morning "] —on the
very same day, then (laughter) the House of
Commons had refused to diminish the effective
strength of the army below 99,129 men by a majority of
223 to 50. The public creditor and the civil list were ex-
eluded irom consideration and the question of salaries
it would, he thought, be best to reserve for separate ceasi-
deration. They then approached the other items of expen-
diture, including the army, the navy, and the ordnance, but
thinly the army and navy ; and they approached the dis-
ouseion in the evening, having at a ye ry early period of
the morning declared, by a majority of 223 to 60,
that the effective force should be 99.000 men. (Hear, hear.)
At a still later hour the house had de.ided that 39,000
seamen and 11,000 marines should be maintained for the
while the motion of the
hounavy,gtorhotimajm.nori(tmy
bee. ighdli7 te
enr had been been negatived by a ma-
jority of 272 to 89. (Hear, hear.) Now he (Sir 11. Peei)
was decidedly In favour of the policy and necessity of re-
trenchment. (Hear, hear.) Ile believed that there were
n any taxes—he cared not what was mid about the compare-
tive lightness of taxation at the present time—he believed
there were many taxes which were now peening upon the
energies of this country, and diminishing the comforts eel the
Milts ; and if, consistently with flood faith to the public
creditor, and consistently with public security, those taxes
could be reduced, the reduction would confer inestimable
benefit. (Cheers.) Nay, more, he would say this, that he
believed that in time of peace they must by their retrench-
' meats consent to incur some risk. (Hear, hear.) He yen-
' turret to say that it they chose to have all the garrisons of
their colonial possessions in a complete state, and to have all
their fortifications secure against attack, no amount of an-
nual expenditure would be sufficient to accomplish their ob-
ajeet. (Hear.) The tht hon. gentleman (Mr. Labatt.
ahem) had add the other night, and with truth, that regard
must be had to the state of foreign powers. Ile (S.r It.
Peel) believed that the example set by foreign powers of
maintaining enormous war establishments ought to be a
warning to this country as well as an example. (Haar.) The
groat powers of Europe might be proud of their strength,
and fancy that they were secure against attack; but he

believed, with respect to every continental power of Europe,
that the amount of military force k. pt up in foreign coun-
tries was or. rhurdening the resources of those countries, and,
to an almost incalculable extent, diminishiag the natisnal
capabilities of attack or defence—(hear, hear)—and he also
believed that no greater benefit could be conferred en the
t useful race than the consent of all these powers to maintain
their relative position towards each other, and
to reduce their respective forces. (Cheers.) The
amount of military force which was now mike
tamed did not add to tteir curries strength, stew,
it was certainly undermining the foundations of their pro-
sperity ; and if the time of severe trial should ever come
the
financia trial would be • covers one—(hear, heari—with
respect to all these powers—Ramie, Prussia, France, Austria,
and the rest. Dut if they hal the good sense to ha con.
tented wish the maintenance of their relative strength, aid
to relieve themselves from some portion of the enormous
expense which they incurred by means of their regnfec
melee, they wit Id nut diminish their security, while they
would greatly contribute to the happiness of the
people whom they governed. (Hear, hear) He advised
the house not to adopt the example which pee
thus set as a rule. On these grounds be could not vote
for the financial part of his hon. friend's motion, Me
firmly believed that if that motion were adopted it would
end in delusion. (Hear, tear.) The lions, of C fmmons
would say—" We have perlermed a great woes, we have
come toe glorious re solution, and, reposing can our laurels,
we are much less disposed than we otherwise should be to
attend to the active and somewhat tedious duties of ee..nonly
and retrenchment." (Crieers.)
Mr. NE WDEOLTE a .id, secordirg to the right hoe.
baronet, the House of Commons wen to have no diserethh
with regard to economy, but to place entire and unlimited
confluence in the river: ment. He, for one, repudiated
such a doctrice. fie had not toted for the motion of tee
hon. member for the West Riding because its terms were
not conservative ; he should support that of his hen. friend
(Mr. H. Drummond), because it was intelligible, and
justified h eireumstanc-e.
Mr. EVELYN, whose delivery was so iedistinet that it
was all but impossible to collect his meaning, was under-
stood to declare, in substance, that havls.g been sent to that
hones by his constituents to vote for retrenchmmr, he felt
bound to support the motion.
Col. SI LTHORP said he should vote with hie hon. freed
the member for West Surrey. As for the right hor. its,:.
(Sr R. Peel), he dad not then see him in his pile*!Sir R. Peel
bad just retired from the house], nor should h. e•re Le
never taw him there egaiu—(faughmr); but he mess eay
that he was consoled under the eccusati m of ieceneirtency by
the fact of its having been ma.le by the father of inermeistenties.
He was of opinion, no matter w". et other hon. le 'rimed
may think, t'-.at the maintenance of the army and navy was
necessary, rot only for the purples of defence Item icy in.
region that may take plmo toy foreign powers, but to seep
the peace on the part of th radicals and free traders at Lome.
(Laughter.) He hoped to live to see the els; when they would
retract their errors, and he th ought that it would he soon;
they would thereby brieg the eourry into a safe harbour,
where peeve and contentmeat w he the lot of all cloves
of the community.
Col. THOMPSON said that he might have been disposed to
give his vote in favour of the motion cot far n_ epee ere of the
seconder, who told them in his speech that tis object was to
raise the price of corn.
Mr. PAGE W 001) said that he agreed with the her.
and gallant member who Lad just set elem.., imomuch
so he came to the conclusion that th,.ss who were rosily
advocates of economy ought to be very gleeful in eivmg
them support to this motion.
Mr. SIAFFORD said that what had o-etured the; T "At
ought fairly to be lx..kel upon as a sigh of the tante,
and an in•litatien of the prey:jar state cf ,-ems
in tI at house et that moment. An hon. and 1, arsetel
gentleman said that he should not vim with the r on. erntle•
M3ll who br light forward the motion, b cause net on' y he
agreed with him, but beeline every other hon.zect:teuen
agreed witfa tine. (Near, hear) Teat was his recce for
going
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thosen t t to
as
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supported
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the
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hwi was
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was hr neht Huard by the other aide Per the acme pliepeee.
The plan which was luau:* forward by the houoar-
atle member for the West Riding cf York,t. re ift
considered by the house to be tco icdefititc, sea
the government had a large majority. And then :Lis
propmitien came from this side cf the house, and he_. get-
.

Lelia cm the other f nid it w.ss too late. The r.vor.•
mar t then resisted, lied hon. gentlemen on the o.ter uc
somewhat peevishly refuscd their support merely beeve.•
they lid not receive similar support from them on a prer.cus
oerasion. S, therefore t..e government with these tRa

verse patios worked on ho:h almost altersatel7, gained ma-
orities and retained cfilee, sod that house refuted to p:Edge
Itself to reform either defluitely or iedefinitely. (Cheers.)
Toe right boa. gentleman 'he inEm.m r for Taroworth sl:oded
to the question of tebseco, hat he rite,' why mould
not the farmers be ellawed to grow hie own to-
bacco ? He asked whether they would have the Excite re-
gulat'oeut pLeed on the farmers to the same
amount u on the Emden c,:dwer. net.. gent:trate
opposite said they were to have tree trade, let he )lr.
Stafford) asked them wend they 6.ve them t.es trade m
tobacco ? The reply was, that the revenue would not erre
to it, and that it should be considered that the helots' ...b.:
was *Lemons. That was exavly what ho and Le,
had bun eying to them who they were p)let:eg the
peal of the corn law, and they took so no'ice E.f th.
Whea it ease to be a question of injury to the preper•y
the larded interest, which was the flat inures

the country, they would r.ot !ear of it
and new It wee their (the protectiaziste) to

,rl:tas

they would say to them, 4-Mind yewi revere.
The agriculturists would be toned complaining with teis 'w-
elded system of legislation, and it could not be (epic id that
they would feel that attachment t', or that conneence in,
the legislature which was necessary for the good government
of the country. This question may be staved of from *et::
to week, but it was futile to hope that it could be 'treed [ti
altogether, and the time would come when the people ve50...1
protest against this system of legislation, and whet) they
would divest themselves of that attachment as the iestitetions
of this country which they were hitherto accustomed to Gel.
(Cheers )
Lord J. RUSSELL underateed the hon. gentlemen (Mr.
Drummocd) to move that there eight to be time
large decrease of taxation, and some great reduction
of expenditure. N3w the hon. gentlemen who bad nut
spoken seemed to imply, as it appeared to him, that the
centers which he supported was the w,y in which that
reduction might be attained. The bon. gentleman seal that
they should preserve pod faith with their err &tore, ulna
which the great majority of the Louse was decided; they
then should have 26,000,0001. for interest on the nitioeal
debt, other charges to the consolidated fund, and the half
pay ; and very little would remain on which they roe,'
nuke a Large nJuctior, unless they made a reduction in :he
sum for the maintenance cf the army arid navy. '1 es
right hon. gentleman the member let Tamworth had sutra
very fairly that after the vote with respect to the anny
and navy, it could not be undantoo-. that the motion should
be intended to reverse the vote which they toads lest n:ght.
How they could arrive at this reduction it was impede/tele to
say. The hon. member for Oxfordshire was going to in-
troduce a motion one of these nights in which he replied
to take off 10 per cent. of all °le:nal salaries. Whether that
motion was a proper one or not be would net at the pre-
sent moment stop to debate. If they took off 10 per cent.
from the salaries of all the members of the cabinet,
they would gain for the public revenue the sum of
and what would that be ? The groat reduction lathe taxation
that would arise from that he would leave the hen. geet:e-
man to explain. If they preserved public faith es to tee ea-
Hanel debt, and if they paid the half.pay and pension to
their soldiers which they were bound to do, and taking the
number of men not to be excessive, he could hardly conceive
any reduction which they could make in the expenditure by
which any great reduction in the taxation could be ;h-
-tailed. The hon. gentleman who just sat down tail test
the government had a very great advantage in 3 mo-
tion being produced on this side of the house on one ne,hr,
and another being produced on the other side of the house on
the next. All he could say as to that was that i: it ,eau
their interest to have those majorities, it would seem
to be their interest to take one of the courses which
either the gentlemen on this aide of the hence or thew' on
the other should think proper to brie; forward I', (.0
in-
stance, they adopted the course which tad been prof Jfe d by
the hon. gentleman the member for Montrose, and brought
forward a measure on it, they shoule have the support ei
these who thought with that gentlemen ; and if ttsy WIT./
able to say, with the gentlemen on the other side of the
house, that the imp art duties on the article of food aboull be
restored, even with a small duty en corn, they should have
the support of those gentlemen on the measure which
they might bring forward. He did not agree with those who
were proposing for a large reduction in the army Bud elvYr
and when the government said that they could not revert to
the principles of protection, they did so because it was their
contention. (Cheers.) 11 in. gentlemen seemed to lose sleet
of that motive, and the bun. eentlemae who had just tae
down said that if they went on in this course, that those Wl'
sat on his side of the house and had hitherto supported teem
when they had brought in measures which were gener...S
useful, would be inclined to vote for me tsures which w(sil
be dangerous to the institutions of the country. It was •ae
possible for him (Lord J. Russell) to believe that the hors.
gentlemen had any foundation for such a statement.
Mr. STAFFORD, in explanation, said that he spoke of
those who might be their successor,. (Hear.)
Lord J. RUcsSRLL said that the hon. unntber, in the
first part of his speech, made no such reserve. He es:d
that votes weula be given which would be dangerous to :he
institutions of the country. Then he said that hole gene.'"
men who did not entertain these opinions would ho
succeeded by gentlemen who would bolt oeinierle
dangerous to the iretitutions of the country. It
the first interpretation had bees true, he teouchi..
that what the bon. gentleman said would be a libel on the.
party with whom he acted. (liner, hear.) Tekieg the
second interpretation to be the true one, it was a libel It
their constnuencies. (Cheers.) Then the baseline,:
gentleman resorted to eft repeated fallacies on eta subjects
tree trade and protection, and referring to the right hon. got:
Hewn, the member for Tasworth, he asked that au
farmer shoud have free trade, and be allowed to. grew
tobacco. So far as that question was concerned, a 7"
whether they would grow tobacco if there was no du!, fie;
posed on foreign tobacco ; so that although tobacco might
I grown free of duty against the foreign tobseco, on &bee
was imposed a duty of 1,200 per cent., in neither vise
the farmer of England be able to compete successfully
uin
the production of the article of tobacco. So much for ore.°
• the great grievances. There was another tree ,r
I namely, that they were not allowed to moiste
of
dry barley as they :pleased, and that the tuaL,
f tan interfered with the censumption of the produce
t their land. Here again it was no question of trio
because to foreign malt was brought in free of duty,whele
were compelled to pay duty. That was a question
The
with the others related to the taxation of the country.

■

oily en had but frerseerd sad imam& la eeasequase
of was ware is which they wen aegagsd He sod het
wag eon was thought of them wars, bet they had
31. •
etht MN• of Interest to pay usually, la eceesquan of
• Inach and Amerman wars. He VII OH ON atheism
wan ought that thou Will wen wisely usdenakea • be
Nought that they were both unneensey bet having iota
wiagamon. sad those debts beim he insured to private
hai,aisie, they must be whethwr these wan
were JO •
• !Wile al not. fries of " Hear, hen.")
swag three debts, they had to poi
.the melt tax seas of
• al wow
the wanes trews sou eaerenrsis sa
ea 4 which weld an now he r, lased. This the hoe, meee-
tor tor Nothuspiesehire had eked mother question, wham
thiamin wee to be a filming 3~ methmsa said tlisy
',petted the riot of con to rise, and expected that to he
an edsmtne. How amid they say that, when they said
you ,Hoeg to ban a law to asks corn cheap? It
was not any .beet of lestWation to make the arti.te cheap.
The leg t....tora only said, we will allow it t ) be se
tamp Is people on get sad prows it from this
✓d
keran nuttier; and without any of this necessity
be revenue, it seen en injury to come between the consumer
of esolL and obtainlm in a foreign eountry, and say,
yes shall sot the corn as cheap as you might, be-
page we wish 0 favour the producer of cora haze niXoTe ail
se.ofa tie had stated this, beaus he thought the prin.
gip:* had bees so often instated. As a legisktun, they had
• iatrwst in the genies es to how dear or cheap an article
,„„zst be. If there was an extraordinary produce in foreign
tannin, as well es la the couany, there might be reason
to wine that the cheapness *listing, arose nom parties-
er circumstance,. On the non bud, if them was a
bth i rico they lust expect greater productions next year,
and a change of prices. The principle of tree trade was
that the lezielstare ought not to interfere ono way or the
gam. It :t so happened that an article came into greater
deemed, and thereby the price was increas•d, that which
ma rain :IT a high price, arisiag from demand, was a
bro. tv in a wholesome state of thiags with which the
blare 0. oil not interfere. It was the contrary It you had
arti•icial dearness produced by legislation; if you
said you would m the the dearness by en of
parliament. and would not allow persons, by their
own tad ism to procure their subsiatopee in the c 1114.1114
Mart. 1: which it could be bad. It this was true there
was cc truth whatever Is the assertions of rho hon. gentle-
men tit the other side ; they had free trade only 00 cos side.
It culd act be contend' I that this house won to abolish
elm wh were nettl.ol7 for the revenue. Their only
ride wan tnat the taxis should be laved, not for oats class
spent another, but for the purpose of the reverie.
Lit us not have two eta of tans, as we bad ten or
nine years ago—one • lmire amount of taxation paid
into the exchequer fee the lanai: of the state,
aLI another. a large ~sat of taxation paid into the pockets
et indict .usle or classes be the benefit of then individuals.
IL this tones of view the motion of the hon. member los
Wert fiats; was inconsistent, beaus' if wan were wader-
edua as I forge debts were incurred, the evtablishments re-
cored a Its* amount of taxation. Let us not add to that
wane by imposing other taxes which was not intended
to jo to the Exchequer, but were ;needed solely to Wank
[;:eves. For the norms which had boat suggested by the fie-
cuievy et War, and for then which he had now stated, he
r...t comsat to the motion of the hoe. member for
b *luny, sod should vote for the previous questioa,
is 1. t ou3st the resolution null would servo no good
11L-pose
n.l I. MANNERS observed that the noble lord was
senses as to the eats of panics in the house, and was still
mon pavans of the feeling which was wowing up in the
mum& All that the hon. member foe Northaniptoashire
mein t•• sat wt.. t'...se if the fanners of England ware to be
av= en the time to press tor retrenchmista.
He• left the quati.n in the hands of the house, declaring
that he vat d tot the 11::.tioa is the honest spirit in which lie
biome.: it t • bare beta framed.
Ik. BRIGHT Wooed to be led away by the weight of
won y whim cad been yrounend gnat the motion,
it iLto a turret all for ~ow intended to
so; •
1. it • As me Leese was la kennel retrenchment, and
the rawry erdl srme so au the house, he thought they
m are' to the rote sow • kid from them. Although
the pc p c wee vague, exotrience showed the advising.
et y sire at 'dominoes the duty of economy epos'
aft, c rs.at at. Is the remarks of the tight hon. Waist
the m. mar fa Zatewostn, respecting the proceedings of the
pre cis evenez , and the liege majority that vend in
kv,•l: it: ex-titmice an expenditure of 12 or 13 millions for
• cyv .a, cavy, there was some force. He (Mr. Bright)
vet.: in.- e minstity, in favour of the modem of his hon.
•h• ta.mber for the Wen Riding, on Friday. and
cacao i.se e.tel is faros of the motion of his lion. friend
the maws :a 11..r.trese en Mooday night, had not cir•
r• v.ntei hie bei .g in the hone. Now, if thine
ea; . :b: minority en dose occasions were con-
sl•hr . the cutme width they had heretofore pursued,
ha c that they were bound to vote foe the
ove (Rear, ham.) Hon. gentlemen
r rinsed the manes Liderently. They did
a,•,••.Aces of the hon. members for the Wen
a 'Yr Ii(11:70!, and oa that second had placed
Mu, .t•tn: nth t an awkwaid rrecVeamenh (Hear, hem)
'- *.. mural sinew much army to the right boa.
t-c sec.u.s to Tamwerili, and could scarcely woa-
itvy 'on *melees an open to pis quiet reeename,
....V. have made toe house some
thrir nitre. (" Hear," and lushes )
L. fir. Enaki) wen u they p:sidea. he
. r....y etme to use definite emelasioe—he would
1w
t• . e many et he *add set. (Cheers.)
v . . • :I ner,):xte of their being La taus: of etesemy
• :.. c T:. law quertlm was settled. Ile did not
. 7 : it. pewit into • core la* debate—that
WU Of tt.o lie waisted to make It a de-
• nanny, and no*.hiult else. Whether pineal
:•;:.• ar s: nun frie trade, or from any other
L...v was chug!' for cmaty raemben to know that
, a their conititnacin re we at presentt In •
a•• ;vinous =disks. than at former periods. at in
• •cit...int to stinul.te them to a 'planter iinuti-
..t. erat (inatille of fieuree. Differing se he
• . lase 'Rutin= is rah:eats to leas trade, he felt
): rey might, ogee that ground, fairly
t, cub the gownsman, and if pueblo to
c:l.:matc:, to Lary Lac retrenchment is the
11'.1f.T r it eyed be shown to be possible.
td the ineabcr for Oxford spoke of the
h tide Lod been made a promotes debate,
minors were curled these woes pasties
4.17 who Mead reseed it as a triumph or pro-
r mean?... He (Mr. Bright) was the lest can

LABOUCHERB. who roes amidst loud cries of
" Divide," said he had believed, until the hen. gentleman
who had jut sat down had addressed the house,
that it was scarcely possible to add to the variety
of pounds on which honourable gentlemen would
support this motion. If tints and opportunity - served
to go through the various speeches, and the grounds
on which each guildsman would give his vote, he thought it
would afford • curious illustration of what really would be
the amount of opinion expressed, and the light that the
public would derive from the vote which would be wane to
to-night. But the hon. gentles's* who had jut sat down
had, with his accustomed candour, declared to the house
what was his object in supporting the resoled end he (Mr.
L iboue he re) begged, ups cosily of thou geht'emcn who at on
that (the ministerial) side of the heave, to mare the grounds
on which the hon. gentleman should support the motion.
He said he did not think that any redaction of tuition
would be of service anises it were accompanied by a ream.
position of • duty on earn. [Captain Harris —" Any large
reduction."] Any seesiderable amount of taxation was
the frank and candid statement of the hon. academia; and
how, with that opinion, he could vote for the motion in the
terms la whisk it was coached, he was at • loss to discover,
for the ben. gentleman stated that the object he had is
giving this vote was to promote a reversal of the policy that
the house had taken. sad he said distinctly that he contem-
plated • duty on the import of coon to the amount of 6a. •
porter. And now, win retard to the terms of the
motion, he certainly was net prepared, as the put of her
Majesty's goverhment, to espies, anything in contradistinc.
tion to those terms. Indeed, his reasons for asking the
house to &tredve the motion would be altogether incon-
sistent with any such argument. He should pi sent bieusell
with ill grace to the house, if he were not able to state to
them that he thought the government had given practical
proof, not merely by protesaiais bat by actions in the
redactions they had carried out in the present and
la the past year that they felt that ell uniecersary
expenditure produced unnecessary tuxedos, and that all
taxation was in itself a great evil to all alasse., and more
especially to the waking claws of the eioactry ; and that it
was the pareatouut duty of the house to reduce that expend:-
tare as rapidly as they could consistently wide those otter
interests which it was their duty not to hate sight of. 0 the
three great estimates—those upon which alone everybody
agreed any large subtitle= could take plea—he meant !or
the three peat services of the army, navy, and ordnance
—a sum of not less than 730,0001. had been saved this year,
and, as compered with the year before, not less than • stallion
sterling. This, he said, was • practical proof that the govern-
meat had not neglected their duty to the house in this'
respect, and that they had gradually but effectually tippled
themselves to retrenchment. He wu aware that a denim
anim aid the people of he country that economy sh -.old be
carried into effect consistently with the real interest of the
country. He would rot inquire into the reasons which made
gentlemen la the landed interest especially eager on this sub-
ject at the present moment. Whatever those reisons might
be, it was the duty of the house to see that the public
money should be expended only with a special view
to the public goad. Bat was this • reason (or agree-
bag to an abstract resolution like this, and at
• cement when the government had given prac-
tical proof of the spirit of economy which animated them.
He could not, he confessed, altogether separate • motion of
this kind from the speck, s et the boo. eeitlemen who pro-
paced and seconded it. He halliard there was a time
is this country Rhea it was muse important fur the real into
rests of the country that the credit of the country should
be unshaken, sad the must say that the Language of the
boa. gentleman who brought leeward the winos, and that
of the hon. member foe Oxfordshire, who woe generally so
prudent and cautions, when he told the house that taxation
was becoming uabearable in the country, he could not help
sappos cg that leaguers of that kind would lead foreign
Retinas to form avant inuaarate notion of the real resources
sad the tioaneiel state of the country. He did not deny
that there was distress in portions of the country ;
he believed that among the agriculturists there
was great and severe, though he hoped but tem-
porary, distress ; but to sate that the whole of the
eouatry was to a di- tressed condition, or to state that it was
less capable of exe.tson tor any natiet.al object, Cr to sup.
port the taxation of the country, was a stateinent which he
ta-lieuel might be made with as little or leis proof in this
year of 1850 than in any period during the Let 50 years.
("Divide.")
Mr. MUSTZ said the right boa. gentleman the President
of the Board of Trade said government had given r • :deal
proof that they sw.:dild economise as much as pcasible, hot
allow him to say that they required a great deal of coercion
to asks them ecoavatiae. With respect to the motion, he
con iicred it a paled truism, and he was utcaished that
government diu not adopt it at ones. It was quite clear,
cusaideriag lbs low prices that prevailed, that some seduc-
tions must be msde.

do ie.
v.. 1

Mr. BROTHERTON said if he thought this motion was
likely to reduce tax aim he would vote for it : but he was
disposed to think, with the member for Middlesex, that
it was a trap,ir.to which the hon. member for Manchester
had fallen. He was not for these sham motion?, which they
pretended were in favour of economy and retrenchment, but
which were in feet • deception sad a fallacy.
Lord DUNCAN said the hon. gestleman who had last
addressed the house stated that this motion was
Mightily framed with a view to catch some mem.
ben of that house in a trap. He for one would
say that it had caught him. He bad nothing to do wish the
Latest of the motion; he had only to take it as it was worded,
and in chat Le saw nothing objectionable, but something
that he approved.
Mr. H. DRUMMOND then rose to npiy. ThR had been
designated as a sham motion, bat he could tell them what
sham votes were—thou votes which they knew would not
embarrass the government. (Cheers) He had no right to
complain of any gentleman misunderstanding him. No
doubt the fault was with himself. He took tobacco and
hope as an illustration, and said he objected to government
interfering with anything which agriculturists produced.
It had been denied that the repeal of the malt and hop
duties would lee no relief to agriculturists. Now,
he had a petition In his hand from flu people of
Ouildior i, which he would read, In crier that the house
might judge whether his allegations were correct. It
stated that there appearing no prospect rf a return to protec-
tive duties the petitioners considered that • duty on malt
sad hops inconsistent in principle with free trade, meat
unfair and injurious to farmers, and they prayed
that they might be allowed the free use of barley,
sad also that the du.y on hope might be take off.
They also prayed that the solaria* of all public functionaries
might be reduced proyortiocably to the price of commodities.
(Hear, hear.) Thu was precisely the purport of his motion.
This motion was no trap, :tut • plain intelligible motion ;
and as such he called upon the house to support it.
The kouse then divided.
For the mots=
Agsicat it l9O-3t
COUNTY RATES.

—Mr. F. fIaCILENZIE asked whet object was intended to
be gained, so far as the alai/don of Jews was commented, by
giving the committee power to examine papers which had
special referenee to Qualm.?
Mr. P. WOOD oteetved that he rested a considerable
portion of his inquiry on the ease of Mr. Pewee, and that for
that reason he had put Quakers on the fees of his motion.
Sir R. PEEL said that cn two several occasions he had
given his cordial support to the noble lord at the
head of the government, in attempting by law to
remove the impediments whisk obstructed the admission
of Jewel to parliament. Had the noble lord proeseded in
the ems' of the present session 'gain to remove these int.
pediments by legislative enactment, there was no member of
that house who would be dispoeed to give a more serail
support to that bill then he (81, R. Peel) would. He Rader-
stood the hoes. and learned gentleman (Mr. Wood) to pro•
F•ra committee to make an inquiry which should not pre-
o the question at inns. If that were the understanding
(81 R. Peel) would oder as ebjeetitia to the appointment
of the committee ; but this he mall mg distinctly, that there
was no hon. gentleman who had voted strenuously against
the admission of the Jews who would watch with
greater jealousy than be would watch any attempt
by the House of Commons to raperwde the
authority of the House of Lords. (Hear, hear.) He would
not argue the subject now, but he hoped the house would
altogether suspend its judgment, and not consider that the
case of Mr. Pease was at ell • precedent or an admission of
the right of other dissenters to sit La the house. The high
character of the hon. gentleman, both for learning and
integrity justified the house in believing that he would
not submit the motion if be did not think it neces-
sary. Still, he (Sir R. Peel) must, say again that attar
having twice voted for the admission of the Jaws to pulls-
went, there was aq gentlemaa in that house who would
watch with greater jealousy than he would lest any interfer-
ence should be attempted by the Hoene of Commons with
the House of Lords. (Cheers.)
Mr. WORTLEY said it was not his Intention to oppose
the motion.

—Lord J. RUSSELL did not conesiee that by appointing
the proposed committee the house paned any judgment as
to whether a Jew could take his seat. It was of very great
importance that there should be a committee. It appeared
to him that the question both as to the acts of parliament,
and as to the meaner in which the house interpreted the
acts in the ems of Mr. Pease, were of very considerable
consequenee. (Hear, hear.) He was at a lose to under.
stand how it wog that Mr. Pease made affirmation in the
way be did, and that afterwards an act should be passed
appointing the mode is which that affirmation should be
made, for, if the house were justified in admitting Mr.
Pena upon his affirmation, it appeared to be unnecessary
afterwards to enact by a fresh act that he should make
that affirmation in a certain way.
Mr. ANSTEY thought the question would be concluded
if Baron Rothschild were admitted by the hots*, and that
no judge would be found bold enough to charge, and no
jury blue eunuch to find, against him.
Mr. WALPOLE concurred with the right hon. baronet
the member for Tamworth in wishing to see this question
fully and fairly investigated.
The motion was agreed to.
PARISH CONSTABLES BILL.

Mr. DEEIJES mored iaiperiii;i:aii.CaVaauce a bill to
amend the 6th and 6th Victoria, which had reference to
parish constables.
LtSTIP ••1111 tholllsleVell to bring in the bill.
PROCESS A D PRACTICE (IRELAND) BILL.
On the orier of the day for going into committee on this
bill being wad,

said he mould oppose their going into
cninruit,et on so important a lid! at that late hour. He
&demi...Ad SOMT of its clauses were unobjectionable, but there
were others which the Irish members would wish to have
explained, and in their absence he did not think the bill
ought to be pressed. He should certainly divide the house
if she ratter were persevered in. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. SADLEIR assured the hon. and gallant gentleman
if he listened to the hoe. and learned Solicitor-General in
committee, he would fully explain to him the entire nature
and stove of the measure, which was very important. There-
fore he hoped he would not persevere in his opp3aitivs.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said it would not occupy
mare than half-an-hour, and in the event of any difficulty
ari.ing it could be postponed. If not entert land now it
might not be until after Easter.
Mr. OROGAN opposed going into committee at that
hour.

The O'GORMAN MAHON urged the necessity of going
into committee, as the bill was one of grtat importance to
Ireland. After some conversation, in the course of which
the Solicitor-General suggested that the tons@ should de-
vote an hour or two etch night, that they might get through
these Irish bills, which otherwise might be delayed until too
lite a peeled of the session to peas them, and that govern-
ment did not propose to proceed with the Irish Court of
Chancery Bill until after Easter,
Colonel DUNNE said, as the opinion of the house ap•
peered to be against rim, he would not divide against the
motion for going into commit,es.
The house then went into committee, and clauses 1,2,
and 3 were agreed to. Clause 4 was omitted. Clanses
to 10 inclusive wire agreed to.
Mr. GROGAN suggested that the bill should be post-
poned until time had Len given for receiving communica-
toms from the legal profession in Dublin.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL acceded to this sugges-
tion.

•.L•it

Tim Lord High Commissioner of the lonian
Islands, Sir HENRY WARD, has pblished his account
of the late insurteetion in Cephalonia, and of the mea-
sures which he resorted to in order to suppress and to
avenge it. We are not going, for the present, to dis-
pute or question any of his Excellency's assertions ;
although his admission that " he lives in an atmo-
sphere where truth is unknown," most prompt
every one to entertain doubts and scruples. as to
what it may please even a High Commissioner to
assert from the testimony of such people.
Our aim her shall be to form a judgment of Sir
HENRY WARD from his own accounts and admissions.
And we must say, that these for* the most singular
self-portraiture of congitutional government by an
ex-liberal that we have yet encountered.
On the morning of the 30th of last August Sir
HENRY WARD received intelligence of a popular out-
break in Cepholotie, of which "he admits that hi
had no means of forming an opinion then, as to the
origin or objects of the movement." Nevertheless,
the first thiug that this liberal chief of a constitu-
tional government does is to arm himself forthwith
with absolute power,-, according to a certain article,
section, and chapti.r of the constitution, which was
one of the first of his powers and duties got by heart.
This he worthily follows out by offering a reward for
certain supposed criminals to be brought to him alive
or dead.

The person so unceremoniously treated was a noto-
ricus bandit, VLACCO, who had been living by raising
black mail on the Cephaloniane, and who, with a
kindred character, the priest NODARI, " had taken
advantage of some disputes bets een the villagers and
the signori, in the district of Scats, to create a rising."
The way in which the feudal and wealthy lords of
these islands mulct and oppress the peasantry has
been described in many book., and sufficiently ac-
counts fur the permanent fend between the cultivators
and the peasant population on one side, the signori
and usurers on tho other. Sir HENRY WARD at first
rightly describes it " as a civil, almost s servile war;
a war of tenants against lenelords, of conforlini
against signori, of debtors ag.linst creditors, in which
hostility to the government is disclaimed."'
Nevertheless, Sir HENRY resolved to put down this
agrarian riot by martial law, and set out himself with
an army to Enron,e this law. This army landed
beneath tLe insurgent village, and we have a v.ry
pompous bulletin of how this village' and the heights
were carried by storm after a very valorous re.sistalice,
but of one man killed or wounded on either
side we do not learn. Sir HENRY WARD,
having headed the expedition, showed bath
his powers as a poet and as Lord High Commissioner,
to make not only a campaign of it, but a formidable
rebellion. VLacco, the bandit, he swells into a
SMITH O'BRIEN. The first report of the superintene-
ent of police, which represented the business as a
quarrel of country debtors against village usurers, is
thru'.t aside for other reports got up " in that atmo-
sphere where truth is unknown," and which tells
us of a conspiracy which embraced the whole Levant,
which bad begun to raise an army of Albanians,
and of which his Nlsjesty of GREECE was the august
instigator. That this ma's of humbug, partly worked
out of the fears of the chief brigands, who were most
anxious to put on the respectable cloak of political
conspirators, actually impesed upon Sir HENRY
WARD, we are willing to believe; that there may be
, a grain of truth amidst the whole bushel of lie,, is
possible—bat that the circumstancrs or the revelations
warrant the absurd rwlemnity and the criminal atro-
city with which a British governor aped the mantic.'
and the rigour of Austrian and Itus.aan commander,
no Englishman who has the good fortune to live out
of the atmosphere of colonial officials can admit.

Sixty-eight persons were tried by court-martial,
which acquitted but two. Of these forty-four were
condemned to death, and twenty-one hanged. We
say nothing as to the execution of VLACCO, or
NODARI, or of the men actually engaged in the
murder of METAXA and the burning of his house.
But numbers of these twenty-one were merely guilty
of having joined the riotous bind, and their summary
conviction and execution, consi4ering how they were
tried, the ignorance and heat of their military judges,
strike us, as reflecting strongly on the mercy and
the consideration of ter :MAJESTY'S representative.
Fron the executions we pass to the fl"ggiuge, a
species of punishment on which we have previously
animadverted, as peculiarly unfitted for natives of the
south of Europe, who suffer far more in actual
pain and in consequences from these brutalities of the
north. Of the 6S tried by court martial, many were
condemned to ba flogged, and suffered the apportion-
mot of that penalty. But, independent of those
condemned, the (facers commanding in Cephalonia
dealt forth floggings summarily, precisely as the
Austrians do in Italy to whoever offend them.
Thus, one lonian, FURGNIOTTI, received 24 lashes for
giving food to so insurgent! On one occasion the
prisoners were thrust into a narrow room, " and as
the sentries did not know the language, it was abso-
lutely necessary to prevent conversation am angst
them," so that all those who ventured to sieak were
instantly taken out and flogged ! When several were
thus punished to enforce the "silent system," a great
many others were flogged fur uttering falsehood
and equivocation. Sir HENRY WARD admits Clot
the very atmosphere he lived in was falsehood. Yet
he flogged poor prisoners for a fault which it seems
was universal. Another man was flogged for nut
giving up the key of his house. And Sir HENRY
WARD, her MAJESTY'S knight and co-nmiasioner, tells
us that he ordered these floggit.g. " from motives of
humanity."
It seems that the Daily News, according to the
assertion of Sir HENRY WARD, WAS wrong in the
number of persons it paid to have been flogged'
that it was an error when it described the " cats "1
as armed with lead, the cats being merely those sanc-
tioned in her MAJESTY'S navy ; that the vineyard and
olive trees were not cut down by the troops. It
seems, too, that the troops were actually fired on,
though we have not heard of a casualty or a wound,
except in the case of the Primate.
'We are willing to give Sir HENRY WARD the
full benefit of his own assertions and exculpation..
And were we, in addition, to place credence
in the monstrous noun se of his Ex elleney's
imagination, crediting all the conspiracies, and secret
societies,and rebellions that helms conjured up—even
then we could not but consider the conduct in Cepha-
lonia of Srt HENRY WARD, ex-member fur the
popular borough of Sheffield, to have been as blindly
tyrannical and brutally vindictive as any purveyor
of the gallows or wielder of the cat-o'-nine-talc, that
ever forfeited the character of liberal, or disgraced the
name of Englishman.
When the conduct of Sir HENRY WARD, under
sanction of our Colonial-office, has enabled the riIIICS
newspaper, the champion of Austrian atrocity, to make
a comparison between the executions and floggings in
Hungary and chest, in Cephalonia, and is thus en-
abled to excuse the infamy of a HAYNAII by the kin-
dred bloodthirstineas of a WARD, the comparison
speaks for itself, and must act as a burning brand
upon the government that can sanction, or the parlia-
ment that can tolerate such act/.

bat from the influence which the principles it affirms
are likely to exercise upon the relations subsisting
between the owners and occupiers of other kinds of
landed property.
The commission, at the head of which was placed,
we know not why, the Earl of Ilanaowev, and
which washes, we need not say, of persons known
to be devoted to the maintenance of the establishment
in spiritual pomp and power, seems to have been in-
spired with oneparamount aim—namely, how to secure
the greatest amount of permanent gain for the bishops
ana clergy. We do not wish to be andentood as
saying this reproachfully. Probably the individuals
whose names are appended to the report believed that
they were expected to inquire with that view, and to
advise in that sense. Certainly we are very glad
that, having so conceived of their duty, they have
been candid in avowing it. What equitable rights
lessees of ecclesiastical lands may have, or whether
iisey lave any u against the Interest of the church,
the commissioners formally refuse to dinner. But
they are "unanimously of opinion that there are
masons of policy and prudence for continuing, as a
rizlal, rule, the prevent relations of lessors and
" subject to certain modifications calculated to
enhance very considerably the proximate, OA well as
the eventual, value of church lands.
Episcopal and capitular property may be generally
said to be held in four different ways : let, under
leases for years with covenants of renewal at the ex-
piration of a certain number of years ; 2nd, under
lessee for lives, renewable on the falling in of each
life ; 3rd, by lettings at the rack-rent; 4th, in hard.
With tenon to the two latter descriptions, the com-
missioners being unab'et to suggest any batter condi-
tion for the sake of the church, volunteer the some-
what superfluous advice that no change should be
made. "We recommend that all property let at
rack rent or in hand should, as a general rule, be
retained in the same condition." 11,body, we think,
will doubt, after reading this dictum of orthodox
finance, as to what the dispositions and sentiments
are which animate Lord HARROWBY and his asso-
ciates in the Episcopal and Capitular Comm:Rion.
And for that very reason we own that we attach
all the more weight to the admissions which the con-
siderations "of policy and prudence" before adverted
be, have led them to make in other parts of their re-
fart. When they come to deal with the fleet and
second claqi of ecclesiastical lends they do not deem
it either politic or prudent to recommend the
raven nd and right reverend lessors to attempt the
absorption of the entire usufruct and improved
value. They do not say, but everybody knows that
by custom amounting to prescription, the holder of a
Lase from a bishop or chapter counts upon obtaining
a renewal every seven or every tea jeers, es
the cue may be. Ti. true that in some in-
ctanees where, in the credulity of his heart, he
has ventured to lay out money on permanent improve-
ments, he has either h.ea compelled to submit to the
exaction of an extra fine—the penalty for his labour
and capital expen7:ed usefully—or his equitable right
to a renewal has been absolutely set It nought, and
the lease suffered to run out. But the temporary
nature of the individual interest which each eccle-
siastic has in the issues and proflts of each farm or
letting, serves to check the impulses of sacerdotal
cupidity. It is not pl asant to lie out of all gain from
I the tenant for 14 or 20 years, f)r sake of the chance
of outliving the impious serf and ultimately pocketing
ample compensation. The epirit may be willing, bat
the flesh is weak; and many a tenant of church land
benefits by the hypochondriacal qualms of dignita-
ries whom the working clergy aver, eelekm, it ever,
are known to die.

The aim of the Episcopal and Cap:tular Commis-
sioners, however, is twofold: they went to render the
gross revenue of the church greater, and they wish to
render it more equable. They prop-se accordingly
to diminish the utotive to the pre*nt system of
gambling on lives in the leases, by convening half
the renewal fines into yearly rents—thus insuring
pro (onto a greater equability of profit at all times ;
arid they further propose that the lessee should be
d,cla:ed entitled to perpetual renewal, sielject to a
revised vzlustion every 21 years—the price of this
boon being fixed ct certain advanced rates of rent and
tine, but ranging from a third to a half. For the
details and calculations we must refer our readers to
the report itself. They appear to have been made
with due notarial care, and nos inconsiderab:e
intrinsic intermit apart from the considerations where-
with they are thus associated.
But the important feature of the whole is the dis-
tinct and builmmelike recognition of the money and
marketable value of the tenant's right to perpetual
renewal. Whether the value put thereon by the
commissioners be correct or fair, is another question.
Thera are easy and obvious means of testi-g their
accuracy in this respect. The tenants will, pro-
bably, have much to say upon the subject tefure
any legislative action can be taken with re-
gard to it; and the subordinate question,—whether
the power of conversion should be left optional or not
—is in itself deserving of grave and deliberate coceide-
ration. But be these as they may, we have on record
this valuable admission, that in order to secure
greater profits from their lands to the clergy, it is
indispensable that the knees should be given some
batter security than they now enjoy, and that if they
permanently improve, they shall not lose the legitimate
flint and recompense of their labcur. It is rot fur
the sake of the tenants thst the preposition is made.
It is for the eeke of the church, which is thus, we are
told, to obtain "an increase of 19/. on e.,
seventy•siz per cent." Whatever may be thought of
the terms, the principle is plainly admitted that per-
manercy of occupation is of immense value even in a
pecuniary and mercantile sena.; and that no better
method can be suggested for the permanent and
steady augmentation of rent than the complete eman-
cipation of the occupiers of the soil from a de;rading
and disheartening dependence on the avarice or
caprice of its owners.

•• . •lot. to give • triumph to the protectionists, as
• * I • vow note stroegly than ever opposed to *sit
sera toot the statemeate which had bee*
Li .14:6 of first-trals by the noble lord
the r• s eolcherer, were wholly opiEssod to the real
he • t•.: ate. hut Ds asaisitained that it was not the
p. .:. • bey man who was in favour of retrenchment to
11.. w the , eth•sa of protection to interfere with his vote on
; e • c: ce1•60.2 or indee I to be mixed up with the
ns. tA..• before them. Wish protection they bad,
t. more to do, and should Quaid.: it
2 Ilea, hear.) Ha believed that no prima
r tat my real lateral in a corrupt expedi-
tor._ 1% oioeved that the present prim* iminieter sincerely
dm.rid cots expect:hum to be abolished, and as a friend
to toe e.e.remar. el which Le wee the head, and as more
cs • •i St the hived of economy, he (Mr. Bright) felt biot-
a' »a.., H Lit LP veto is favour of the motion. (Haar )
lir Iit..NLEY r•pelied the charge of inconsieusey is
•or •his lotus after opposiag thoee of Mr. Cobden
as•. 4r lior••••, hy say Sig that thou motions were specific
ic the r commie:, whist this was only general. Thou some
hot a.entan atria wish for a reduction of our military
leo oith•sit rim to the eaten desired by the hon. mem.
ter Is )i stir %, 01 JAkite off 10,1,30 men. Tcey might also
et: t %Fee:cam/ wiliest laireg to pledge themselves to go
tIA tt lootad by thc hums:ober for i he West 'tiding.
). .r the Rummest could wow up their courage to
Ira p.me, tot this year they must move the pre-
''•••• which vaunt maything or nothing se it
Agaialt the motion itself he had not !es: ss argument urged. No one denied that the
ttt •
nee,
••• •• • routry wound every possible retrenchment In
• t • zpeneletore. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member
Ls • :•1 ils.l•ted ice AliStlalMl of agricultural distress,
. • • .• ime in ti•►at °Maim. &ming, that, that that
asarted, sad that it had gives rite to an out-
"' a :1 •t the mount amount of taxation, ha was atto
11.1 c tear: the Secretary at War say that no remission of
t.:st..c est he meld est wool I afford relief to the country.
:.e. ItheLL expleite 1 t...et he did not say so. What
flat So the p.cpcsition of the hon. member for
km/ ne saw ao tesimita of taxation that would give
NI. 11 ENLbY said it tarn Mill to this—that a motion
I • • resent, carried by the hauls, coed cot press so
tp..-.......oventsmat at tr .ndsts a remission of taxes that
',6"1 ft:W. He regretted to hear that statement
rostra:mot, Lemma it would lead the people
• l'fpfadizg mate than anything which hal b°B°
14 • 'A la .:do std
the home. lie wsold give hie boart7
•••;•; st to tl a 1r4U411.
11 'CA •YOICIII oatd he would support the motion
• • rayd to extice! rimming and trade shut every
• as, in the *moire might be employed, agricul-
,,e. • •• mechanic.
11,•• b); toought coS the bon. member for Oxford-
.. t •,' • •seett dad is proving that he would not bo acting
.! .• sissy in voting for this, after opposing his
ksto i n. and that of his hos. friend the member
e RAM?. Int excuse was that the present
•• emossl. end the others specific. New, the
'•• b•h. :fiend the member for the W.st Uidiag
• :LA the taxes required for the present expenditure
" Gigint.'•llll of agriculture and macufutures,
InOa.sh• d the funds for the employ-
' I..e'Moat in all branches of productive
teat was general 'mouth ? Us
r to support any sauti s for the reduction of
c: c•odel mist help remarking that the energies of
• •," wen eel) awakened when agriculture began
• ,r..tauly ,
related
every other interest in the
;/, I 4.t0 Mt related every motion fur retreach-
' '• Liu.) The motion was a general one for
• •,•• o of
sr taxitioo, but be had tope tied that the
r P 4 beet Surrey would have enforced it by
,t';: our present i I:abashing:its acre tos Lep.
Hume) wanted woe that the p& seat
should adopt the ante plea and reduce
from the crown to tie perter, to the
;'' ratan. The Cid list should be review d, aced
•-••
4'14 her Majer7.so in tho ease el the Lemnos
• ••• the but to consent to anything ea/led let by
•••• of the comitry. (Omen.) That civil het
‘hta prim we the highest, in the rotas a • a', sorely as ens. member would contend tt at
' ecru wou.il tearful eta conticusoco. Us
I motion would be tarried, and he wished the
nssion for reduction. Ile had only further to
•
lot support this motion la, a 111141111 of retetraing

Sir H. HAL} ORO moved for leave to bring in • Lill to
relieve tenant octopi:l-s from the ;payment of meaty and
police rates.
Alter • few words from Mr. Muss and Sir 0. Gage,
leave wee given to bring in the bill.
ADMISSION OF JEWS TO PARLIAMENT.
Mr. WOOD rose to move for • select committee to search
the journals of this house. and to report such precedents and
such sett, or ;tarts of acts of parliament, as relate to the
question of Jews, or other persons, being admitted to take
their seats in parliament without being sworn upon the
holy gospels; and further, to inquire and report in what
manner Joseph Pease, E.q., on taking his seat in this house
in the year 1433, made affirmation to the effect of the oaths
required by law to be taken by members before taking
their Rata in this house; and also, to inquire and report in
what manner Jews sod other pennon, not profess-
ing the Christian religion, are permitted to make
oath in courts of justice end other places where an
oath Is allowed, authorisrd, or required to be taken.
The house being already fully aware of the eirenntstaiten ef
the me in which the present motion originated, be would
not at that late hour enter into the details of that cue.
He was induced, as an elector of the city of London, and at
the call of several other electors, to submit this motion to
the house with a view of arriving at some conclusion upon a
matter which it would be impossible to withhold
for any lengthened pericd from l's consideration.
No person could suppose that a gentleman who
had been twice returned by such a constituency
as that of the City of London, and who had been unable to
take his teat in that house for certain reasons, could be
allowed to remain in such a position without some steps being
taken one way or the other in the matter. He did not
donee to prejudge the decision of the house. His
object was to obtain • c rnmittee of inquiry, and
for that course be found a precedent la the Jour
nab of the house in the case of Mr. Pone,
who had beta allowed to sit in that house upon making an
affirmation instead of taking the oath in the form pre-
scribed by the Bth of Oeo. 111. The motion which he made
was pre- dy the same as that which had been made in the
ease of Mr. Passe, suck alterations only been made as the
dreametances eel the present case rendered indispensa-
ble. He believed that some important results
might follow from such en inquiry, as he pro-
posed. First of all, there wire no leas than 19 acts of
parliament having a direct beerier on this subject, and he
was not prepared to my that there were not many more.
There were also precedents in the journals of the house—
not
many he admit Md—of persons who claimed to be
admitted into the house without taking the oath
required. One of the persons who so claimed to
be admitted lam the settlement of that particular
oath of abjuration which now regulated the admission of
members into that house, had been refused admittance.
But Mr. Pewhad been admitted upon a residences of that
house, and without the sanction—at lent without the direct
sanction of an act of parliament. Now, there were three
points of great importance, which were well worth the eon.
sideration of such a committee sa he proposed. The lint was
as to the mode in which poems ail any religiose pensmion

ttta.

vat,

Kr. REYNOLDS would like to know whether it were
true, ac had been reported, that the Sulicitor•Oeneml had
mat a copy of the bill to the Chamber of Commerce of
Dublin I Lie might as well have sent it to the aldermen
of Skinner's-alley.
Mr. SADLEIR said that though he had no desire to
appear as the champion of the body referred to, he must pro.
list against the application of such language to a respectable
commercial body.
The SOLICI lOR GENERAL had felt bound to send a
copy of the bill to every one at all interested in the
matter.

The Cita:mute then reported progress.
The Turnpike•road and Bridge Trusts (Ireland) Bill was
then read a third time and passed.
The house adjourned at ten minutes to 1 o'clock.

• The superintealeatot pollee, Iternandkihniared the language of the
neenintry to be dot they had nothing Is de with the gweratitent,
but with the Ewen dom. whl, they .7, although their rut-rows
are sail in the dry. pessde, those doge with to hang to, b) means
or ppuire or gleam, at watch they seek to Ine(1100 tha pAyntint ; tact
yeur. likewise, on the wegiveraury at Unlimited of the Hely Cr..., we
bail no lolootioll of Wei eieleet the epewhotent, but only agulust
the atimori.°

THE Report of the Epiecopal and Canitular Com-
missioners, recently presented to parliament, is a
document of no ordinary interest, not only from its
'specific bearing on the future revenues of the church,

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 13, 1860. 3
been the
to Monopoly, which he knew was impossible, but as a means were *Witted to take the oa the law of the lead at the
bat from the influence which the principles it affirms Chugarnier. Hence much ill feeling between M.
et promotiag eminonty ; sad he thought ricer bee. member prosaat weetrat, led Shit ea the dederatory net
;.":::7.:1
=to would do a peat Barite to *a Irmo if Wig die' of MIS Ist ea bad eif Yht. e. whit& MINN that any
the
Citeerprtoo. are likely to exercise upon the relations subsisting Barret and M. Cartier.
between the owners and occupiers of other kinds of To-rinsdaagy thesetPo
the
ecleolluamßnasott Bastille than of any
.hopes of • rebus le prelseden, but paws kiting Me nab is • maw tibia be desired le be ,____.
oeseerspd them tomes the other classes of the eogassusity Nadia., weld be bound br his oath Ind be yof landed proporty. people. I have informed you of the continuation of the
is peoreotime economy is every publis depertleente. perjury If he violated it. net was a OUTGOING MAILS.
act, The mane for Limbos, Spain and Gibraltar will be made The commission_, at the head of which was placed, pilgrimages Mr. BENNET, amid loud cries of " divide," denied that and as each it meat be Mks to have base the law ep oa the 17th lux ' we know not why, the Earl of lIARROWBV, and number of crowns and emblems brought together that
the cocclities of the Isbouren had been impeued by fru of the land at all times. Theo with regard le that act it The West India Mails, excludies
nandßermud, avannali, Which moils's, we need not say, of persons known they formed a vast mass, artistically arranged, of red
trade, .08dB0•IRpreiseN8dessilt itatteaturitiosinsemof satins
asseo tkedideiotl amenon wwhoulaidwasbo
thartureara
slatst eftbetisessinaltimr
withae she, e,d
_Meddle
are
thigassaies ufor, Honduras, New Orleans, and Mer
u le..,including to be devoted to the maintenance of the establishment and yellow flower., around which the idle and,
carious
Et. Jaan-de-Nissesaus, new Granada •
immune soutimency, he could not souses himself with node la which pusses est pseesaing the Welits roll- ma, sad pernoraiYin. be ado pon the nuonot. ,in spiritualpomp and power, seems to have been in. assembled to admire and wonder. However, as the
spired with oneparamonntaim—namely, how to mecum pilgrims had not confined themselves to the mere
...1114.6. • OHM. ••••••• ••• .1.4. andoii.... Ho somiluivraett Ace nano. .4... - ..i.iii.,l ..0 ...... 4.. as. i..• • _.,
. ... we ...AS el as The Mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands,
:ke-rt army, easy, or erdasase, bat he world not be wade oath that sight domed bindles as thale,kl2 the Spypt, COS.., ladle, and Chico. We B„thatortm, win the greatest amount of permanent gain for the bishops funereal crown, but had intermingled red (legs and
area clergy. We do not wish to be understood as and other republican and democratic ornament',
• eses-paw OW wing a vote fa reversal of doctrines which loar es this pollt had base Wtausted la the ease of be made up on the Ronde, o, mono 20.
" Oeat e. Barker." The seat eats of inifewf•Aus to me mails for British Werth mastitis and the United saying this reproachfully. Probably the individuals the police seized the opportunity to interfere.
he firmly to be mad.
Capt. liAßlllft supported the motion medemplating as be cossiderod, rather as a matter of emblem., related to suede rya mai up oi, lb, oosofog of too 220 d last
whose names are appended to the report believed that About 100 soldiers, belonging to several regiments
among its flu results the repeal of the malt tax and hop the quondam what wee deemed to be a bind- Tb via Marseille', to Ike Mediterranean, Egypt, they were expected to inquire with that view, and to of infantry, proceeded thither, about four o'clock, to
mode of adatiniltiriCg Ceiba, lodie, Hose-Hoeg, dee., will be made up ea tits
dutin. He did not think, however, that agricultural die lag oath, and • binding
tress weal/ be removed without a return to protection, such oath to a person of the Jewish psrmutes. remiss of the 24th kw. advise in that sense. Certainly we are very glad deposit crowns and emblems. These men remained
though be should not be for goiag beyond a 6.. duty upon All thus fasts ought to be ascertained upon a question which The mails fee Maderia, the Brasile, and Etienne Ayres, will that, having so conceived of their duty, they have silent, whilst the crowd around occuionally cried out,
0011 S. mast undoubtedly, in some shape or other, be raised with be made up OR the reads el April 4. been candid in avowing it. What equitable rights " Vive Parmee! Viva la Montagne !"
Mr. LABOUCHERB, who nee amidst loud cries of refermee to the unrepresented state oohs City of London.
lessees of ecclesiastical lands may have, or whether The conservative organs pretend that these ahldiers
" Divide 'said he had believed, until the hen. gentleman (Loud cries of "Hear, hear.") Under these dreametanees,
wren WATER AT i....=.r.,-.."..7..... .. .
tiny Lave any as against the interest of the church, wore vow ill received by their regiments on their
who had jag sat down had addressed the house, he begged to snore the speohausinst of the musaitteie. Eno Das-etankaan. Vt. on. .Anstema. 21.. tea
that it was scarcely possible to add to the vseisty Mr. NEWDEGATS aelted whethse the proposed cow- To-nennow-Konuan, ett. tem Anensea, si. sm. the commissioners formally refuse to dinar,. But return, and the Constitutionnel Lays that certain
of pounds on which honourable gentlemen would mitts. were to have thepewa of examining witnesses ?
they are " unanimously of opinion that there are measures taken with respect to them were intended
support this maims. If time and opportunity served Mr. P. WOOD rep that the committee would have to
reasons cf policy and prudence for continuing, as a not to punish, but to protect them. Certain it is,
to go Gough the various speeches, and Ws grounds inquire and report, and that dunes' they would be enabled LONDOIf WE , DNESDAY, MARCH 13.
general rate, the trelations of lessors and however, that 93 of them were sent into close con-
preeen
on which each gentleman would give his vote, he thought it to exudes whams*.
would afford a curious illustration of what really email be Mr. F. MACKENZIE asked what object was intended to The Lord High Commissioner of the lonian less's'
" subject to certain modifications calculated to finemenv, where they now remain ; a species of pro-
We arcane of opinion exprmsed, and the light that the be gained, so far as the adsainies of Jews was cooperated, by Island., Sir HENRY
public would derive from the vote which would be come to giving the committee power to examine men which had
to-ateht. But the hoa. ntlest= who bad jut sat down s reference to Quakers ?
of the late insurrection in Cephalon•
la, and of the melt- "it
the event value of church lands. it may rejoice the protectors.
gepaniel
kid, with his accustomed candour, declared to ths house Mr. P. WOOD observed that he ratted a considerable sores which he resorted to in order to suppress and to Episcopal and capitalar property may be generally TUESDAY, 7 A It.
in • four different ways : Ist, adder The result of the elections is known. The demo-
whet was hie object in supporting the resolutim, sad he (Mr. portion of his inquiry on the use of Mr. Pease, and that for avenge it. We are not going, for the present, to du-
said to be held
L ,bouchere) begged, especially of thou gext'emcn who sat on that reason he had put Quaken on the face of his notion. put* or question any of his Excellency's aseertions ; 'c candidates De Flotte, Vidal, and Carnot were
leases for years with covenant, of renewal at the ex- erldi , , that (the ministerial) side of the heave, to meta the ground, Mr R. PEEL said that en two several ace..ionn he had although his admission that "he lives in an atmo.of from
Firation of a certain number of years ; 2nd, under elected by majorities 7,000 ,
on which the hon. gentleman should saprort the motion. glean his cordial support te
rn the
noble lord at the ophere where truth is unknown," must prompt leases.
for lives, renewable on the falling in of each BOURSE. He said he did not think that any redaction of tuition head of the goeernment, in attempting by law tolife • 3rd, by lettings at the
every One to entertain doubts and scruples, as to ' rack-rent; PARIS, 3l•acu 12. For
would be of service %mien it were accompanied by a reins- remove the impediments whisk obstructed the admissioa
what it
_ With unman to the two latter descriptions, the tam- Money. Opening rllgheet. lowest. Closing
position of a duty on e:rn. [Captain Harris -" Amy lap of Jews to parliament. Had the noble lord proceeded in
II 'one being b' to t btt el
rs una .e sagges any b; flee con e- —'——
reduction."] Any tressidereble amount of taxation wag the course of
_tim present session 'gain to remove these im assert from the testimony of such people. .
a per Cents. ....... .... 57 65 I 57 BO 57 95 57 40 V7O
•
the frank andeandid statement of the hon. gentleman ; and pediments by impaMtive enactment, time was no iambs/ of Our aim here shall be to form a judgment of Sir Lon for the sake of the church, volunteer the some- , per rent.
how, with that opinion, he could vote for the motion in the that house who would be diapoul to give a more sordid np.phy WARD from his own accounts and admissions. what superfluous advice that no change should be s do. New Loan_ ~ I „ e a II
terms la whisk it was coached, he was at a loss to discover, support to that bill thou le (Bit R. Peel) would. He under-made. "We recommend that all property let at 9 "w9ata•-• -
tor the his. gentleman stated that the object he had is stood the hes, ,and heeled gentleman (tic Wood) to pro. And we must say ,that these for the t 'oeula . form - most at - r tuck rent or in hand slinnl.l .• a ........I ...I. 1... . Per •••-•ts .. .. .. -
giving this vote was to promote a reversal or the policy that mot a onmEnitimk in ma A•• ant. v. .

11 par Canto. ....... 47 65 11 37 60 57 95 57 40 57 70
6 per Cents.. 93 0
99
93 CO 93 60 92 70 1.13 0
5 do. Now Una_ „ 99
i 0 0
te per Centi.
Cents...
0 1 99 Se Pe Pe
pra
o "
Escr.nie on 1.600410: 30 Oki., 16 47r; 9.) goys, ;5 35. "
SOON 5, 1410
Do. 5, 1643
Do. 44
Do. 3
PiedmDont 5 per Cents. th 0 „ Hook Worn 2115 „
Borns—Verson/ea (right bank), 187 SO; Versailles ((Sett lbank.
160; Paris and Orisons. 775; P 5711 and Rosen, 550; Rouen kod
Marrs, 243; Arlanou and Marseinem 200; Strasburg and re x,
115; Orleans and Vierzoo, 827 50; 'Orleans and Hordeaux, 495;
North, 443 75; Paris and titrasbcorg, 306 23; 'fours and Nantes,
247 50; St. Germaia, 390.
MADIth BOLSA, MAtcrt 7.—No transaction,.