The Express.
London, England, 1861-07-23 00:00:00

WIDOWS OF NAVAL OFFICERS.

Lord COLCHESTER presented a petition from widows
of medical officers in the navy, complaining of the insuffi-
ciency of their pensions.
The Marquis of NORNANBY presented a petition to
the mine effect from medical naval oaken.

ELECTIONS BILL.

Lord HARRIS moved that a message should be seat to
the lower house, requesting them to communicate the pro-
oemlisp before thew select committee upon the Universtty
Elections Bill.

Tbs motion was aged to.
THE DUKE OF MODENA.

The Marquis of NOftMANBY m-4-;•71:--pUnuant to notice,
an address to her Majesty for copies or extracts of any de-
spatches relating to the affairs of the duchy of Modena
from her Majesty's minister accredited to the courts of
Ceiba Italy, during the years 1866,1816, 1867, and 1854
to which he proposed to add "copies or entracte
of any letters from Captain Walton, her Majesty's Consul
to the Duchy of Ferrara during the same period."
After referring to the attack made on the Duke of Modena
at the beginning of the sash* by Mr. Gladstone, and which
had been reamed by that singew_ only • few days Ws
notwithstanffiag proofs which be (lord Normanby) had
given Mr. Gd that the charge was founded on gar-
bled documents ooe
privately circulated, he read the
dines which bad passed between himself and reClad-
stone on the subject, and remarked that as that reatlensaa
had refused to retract the charge be hoped the papers
would be produced, in order that the case might be fairly
placed before the country.
Lord WODEHOUSE protested vehemently spinet the
ended, of Lord Normanby in bringing charges against Mr.
Gladstone in • place where it was impossible for the object
of them to repel them. He proceeded to justify the charges
which Mr. Gladstone bad made, and cooranded that they
were drawn from documents of which the genuineness bad
never been questioned.
Lord DERBY thought the conduct of Mr. Gladstone
as • minister of. the crown highly improper is bring-
ing obergasevSag.the Duke of Modena Sot
bad the aid which the accused party was pre-
treat aas Proof was wanting that the papers
on which • the Amgen were founded were genuine, and,
even if they were, they were insufficient to establish the
charges made by Mr. Gladstone. If the papers were not
produced, the inference would be that they would not bear
out the accusations which had been brought forward by Mr.
Gladstone.

Lind GRANVILLE, having stated that the documents
in question were published in IMO by the de facto govern-
mess of Modena, mid he could not understand how the
Duke of Mode= could be deemed ignorant of their con•
MAL Shembil the be deemed worthy of publication
there was no ebjeoUeu cm the part of the governmeat to
produce them.
Lord BROUGHAM thought Mr. Gladstone had made
out his ease if the disenneets were not forgeries.
The mottos wee them weed to.
RZVIBION OP THE LITURGY.
Lord EBURY nee to pianist two petitions, which,
though sot sonerotely, were very respectably signed, pray-
ing the hems to =dna bet Mates. for a royal commission
to amender init alletstine ea might be safest and best for
iinprovielv the Litany et the church of England without in
say way Ms the fundameatal doctrine* of the
Christian a= the scriptural tenets of the national
=mai Ma eel gives anne of the pramotation of
thine psalm mann= cif their intrinsic importaooe, but
beer= be eine &sire= with their lordships' permission, to
offer le the bran an explanation of the IVIIIIOOII why he did
not fellow op &a wine be Ind gives et the termination of
the Innt sisnies of pialleine= asd lay won their lordships'
bible • bill to alb= sad mass& 1119 Act of Uniformity. la
the fret place, be bed thoinet bleu most desirous that
the initiative ups 111 n should be taken by the
ecclesiastical eine= of our 'we body. He therefore
waited to en whether the Cosvonatioo of the province of
Cantorbs7 weal mm it a move in this direction. They
had dose es Wen, aid they might do so again. It would
also he remembwad that the provincial synod wits about to
meet =die sew eirennetesees, inasmuch as it had molicited
and =Waal a linen from the crown to enter upes the
path of reform. It would certainly not go to a very great
extent, SIM It wee a step in the right daection,
and he did hope that perhaps they would have noel-
=red the propriety of requsetiag those of their
laladeriastao.
bed suns perliameet to proposelegislation to
some ef thane evils whisk were the enbleel el se mash
Cisometeaces, however, had ernes eh= is.
fame td the Portlier consideration of these manna
The aeon= of the body to which he bed referred was
Wise pestpossi—ern by a domestic afilictioa in the family
ei the non rev. pprreelate, and another time by his much to
be lOW , added to which, the storm
by the &scum= 4 the " &nye sad Reviews "
=de it impossible to obtain a hearing =any other matt its.
This, the time for actioo is the house peeled away, sad
Obese inisioned is this question did sot deem the moment
=lnnen= farther prepasitiesa upon the sob*"
however, before he erased= to my what his
*wed nem is the futius, tosiD the attain= owe bowie
es= polities hi whiah thin quistione stood,
shoe Ise =de Me slotenewt Is thee hews Is May Lot
peer. The ed.= bedlam illessend bandana. Bonn of
Dvemil ea • melon in Ever et mein= =de by the
Dean of Wend& with peatabilin„ es well 11111 by hie secoader,
Hr. Adlilla Oxestles, est et the eland rermeentati -Ns of
the diens" of r- - k aid Abe!. ' • were •

ef Closiddry ignu—_4l~j warty
sonted, nosy masters el tbst body iMird Ani,
they mold mot vote for it at that tise, they did not
In b• sensidered as airrisa satepoista. Them. althea*
revislos bad beat y deprecated in two or three
adempal eb It been enbesibtionty reecomermid
by therigbasar. airms,
peidewbopmekbideverthodiessee of Mew
easter said Dead. in two which be (the mile lerellimali
seed I. Irwin "The further awake el the
bra berm dm* arsommaded by promo el
aerie
piety at yank= lids Edo len Indeed all true
id the ehdd west. In the dad* be arleocatas of midis.
lisorower mad to /were which they rightly cherish
as ale 1141:6 which they have inherited
Isim *dr lbw am boldly deny that there are
some alit:radar would dem the Prayer-book more
pad ; end Ow most did lb • oared of no little
idled dons la V an defect in Ire ritual were
sansdlise.lMO. defiewsocy as any
s=
gli be _ willed the somillar Old is
poplins of somillib dr M nvideod, mid the
limos Ind adt, dliereaseb mama BM Wee yet re-
EIV* dos
r ranseldin
maws whisk hots
tarir=illa 01 the
gsod Yeti Mald the ties of
oessemieese the Prisido of all
Mod was was MAW by more of bis bar to
alma to
oenveho • • like . This he dedisdlo de,
MA the morobatio• of the Archbal, of Doblie,
ea the ground that, is kis opinion, the 29th dalmat laser
had my validity whatever, sod that the aided= of it was
simply wiser ; bat be wedded with dime pregoest
word. "If at any Ids • well-coosidered plan hr • general
rttitita lithe sasows sad rubrics, or for shartatiog the
modessed serriem, ester amending the laws which regu-
late the diaddins of the thumb, should he previously
framed by thabeade el the chink and state, it would seem
to ins that • 111161111 a synod of the united church is
the apprewriate hay for oonsiderieg the prie-
d* tad arranging the details of such a saw
aura, before the introductiou into parliament of • bill
to give it legal effect. Should an 00011600 of this kind pro-
siest itself daring the matediag period of my Prazooted
pimaey, my beet endeavours shall be need for the maven-
tag of • =Hood ',sod." Their lordships would therefore
ewe that then we. dodo' evidence to chow that this
rknestioa, so far from hadeg bars disposed of by the rejec-
tion of hie motion loot year, was as rife and as unsettled as
ever, and as urgently demanded authoritative interposition.
He should have liked to ham added some farther observe,
time iiir4t to it, but as he bad already traipsed at
sass moss the hew be should M air beam diet.
lamely that wakes some move was mile for that
=rby the soeleisstical authorities, sod be mad ear-
yrdesired thst the initiative eh ld IMO 600
would be his dray to ask their lorLahipe to amid to • h=
to rim the UMW of subsoription whisk had boon so se-
w* reprobated by semi el the Wald amonerste of
our church, and is riforeme to which than of their lord-
ships who did him the Imam to recollect his statement
lest year would zwismiler the be said that without
this reform all the rest would he incomplete. Their
lordships would doubtless think that the time proped for
this realise was not Inasmuch am that sat
the tams of wee passed in the par
selfrigeitt year would be the Inth maim:dry, ad he
was sure it *odd be eposable to their lordship_ to sub.
Mote for that fatal aaii reampfal dame sodding more
masomot with the asmlllsiery spilt ad Cleislimity of
or sec (Hear, her

The Bishop of LONDON said be was not authorised to
state that the House of Convocation would be likely to
take up the subject which the noble lord had brought be-
fore their lordships. He was glad to perceive that the
question was becoming • little more clear. It always ap-
peared to him that this matter was complicated by three
quedious ; one, whether it was desirable that the service
should be shortened ; another was, whether any alteration
should be made in the doctrine of the church •• and another
was, whether the rubseription should or should not be re-
laxed. He was glad that the noble lord bad con-
fined himself to the question of subscription. He thought
the noble lord would be more rely to attain his
object if he adopted the course taken by Lord Stanhope,
who when he
.proposed ari alienators stated distinctly
what the alterntion was that he pro The noble lord
(Lord Ebnry) had always im upon them the noose-
' sity of • general revision. New, general revisions had
taken place on certain occasions : they always followed •
great revolution. After the Reformation there was a
general revision. Again, there was one when she royal
family was restored after the Commonwealth, and another
when James 11. was obliged to leave the throne.
It was quite out of the question to propose a general
revision at • time like the present. There would be
a danger of unsettling the opinions of the whole country,
which was • thing much to be deprecated. With regard to
' the natter of subscriptions he thought it of great import-
ance, though there was an idea abroad that the subscrip-
tions were more rigid than they really were. If • maa
conscientiously believed that the church of Etigland was
i the church in which he wished to live and die, that he was
attached to it more than to any other form of Cbristiaaity,
he might safely make the subscriptions required by the 1
existing law. Them sibscriptions were required el 11
some laymen as well as of all clergymen : thee
were required of every member of the Drives-
sity of Oxford. If, however, speaking is big
individual capacity, it should be found that these subscrip. ,
Lions bore on the conscience of scrupulous individuals, he
' was quite sure that any proposal to relax them would re. I
wive great attention, certainly from himself, and be be- I
tiered from every one on the right reverend bomb. What
be had always deprecated was the general unsettling of the
opinions of the members of the church of England which
I would certainly result from throwing the matter into the
! hands of • commission. With regard to the service being
shortened, he had at various times stated that the service
might be shortened. He had pointed out thet the Litany might
be used as • separate service under the sanction of the din- 1
omen, and that the service might be abridged in other'
ways. It might be abridged , but he believed that the ob-
isaawa was is the laity, and that if any clempyrnan attempted
to shorten it be would find his positron in his parish not a
very
Marquis of WESTMEATFI was of opinion that the
sorties might with advantage be shortened. The Lord's
Prayer occurred five times in the morning service ; and he
was told that at • consecration by the Bishop of London,
when he got into the pulpit be said, "As you have already
had the Lord's Prayer four times, I shall not give it you
again.' (Laughter.
The Bishop of L NOON intimated that this statement
was not true. . .

Vis7OuniDIINGANNON deprecated any change what-
ever in the service. _ _

The ab}setthen dropped.
The Locomotives hill yawed through committee; the
Public Works (Ireland) Advances and Repayments of
Monies Sill was reported, with amendments, which were
agreed to; the report on the Tramways (Ireland) Bill, and
on the Attorneys and Solicitor, (Ireland) Bill were Is-
aired ; and the East India Council, &c., Piers and Hat'
hour, and Turnpike Trusts Arrangements Bills were *eve.
rally read a third time and passed.
Their lordships rose at Indiana 9 o'clock.

HOUSE OF OOMMONS.MO/TDAT, JULT 22.
The Srestars took the chair et 4 o'clock.
THE ROYAL ASSENT.

The Yeoman Usher, Colonel Spencer Clifford, appeared
at the WI% wed surnamed the house to the House of
Peers to bear the royal swat, by commission, gives to
certain bills, for which see Lords' report.
On the return of the Speaker, the following private bills
were read a third time and mod :—The 13Iane Valley
Railway ; the Edinburgh, Perth, and Dundee Railway ; and
t►e Olaagow and Milagowis Junction Railway, Bills.
The following bills were ordered to lie upon the table for
ootsideration :—The Atkinson's Trust Estate ; the Corn.
wall Railway ; the Victoria Docks, Gas ; the West of
Fife Miami RailvirkaL and Charleston Railway and Her.
boar
Th!)==bills were read a second time :—Hema.
worth's Fatale; and Middleton'. Estate, Bills.

130VEREJONS.

Alderman SALOMONS asked the Chancellor of the
i Exchequer, f, in the trial of the Pyx which bad just been
made, Awitralian sovereigns coined at the branch of the
Royal Mint at Sydney were submitted for assay, and if the
quality of such sovereigns was equal to them coined at
Towerhill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mid that
Australian sovereigns were not a legal tender in this
country, and, therefore, could not receive the benefit of
trial by the Pyx. However, we had now other and ample
means of testing coin, and the Australiau sovereigns having
been so tested had been found to be quit, equal to the cur-
rent cola of the realm.

liiii;n:i iiifffiiiists would bring the subject before
the house in the ensuing swim
OONTROLLEES OF CUSTOMS AT THE OIIITORTE

& NORTIKOTE asked the Chimesßar of Use ?ache•
quer what arrangements had been made for the disabuse in
the outporta of those duties which were formerly performed
by the controllers, whose alms were now abolished ; and
whether proviacia bad been made for employing the con-
trollers whose SICAOIIII had been dispensed with upon dirties
as nearly as possible analogou4 to those which they had
piliviously had to perform, and for securing to them their
fair chance of promotion to superior situations as they might
fall vacant.

TM OHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER mid, with
leaped to the Bret point a system of duplicate checks had
been established at the Cuatoin-house, and in answer to
the other he had only to say tbat as many as possible of
the redendant bat of comptrollers had been employed In
otherdepartroente, and others had received compensation.
Everything possible should be doe* to And employment for
those gentlemen, but the hat was, be wu sorry to my, very
kris.
COPTRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL.

Is answer to Mr. N. SMITH,
&r G. C. LBW& raid that this bill woo so loom a go-
mamma sarassro.

HUSH BUSINESS.

Is answer to Mr. LONOVIZLD,
Mt. CARDWELL was understood to may that is the
abeseee el the Irish in= *either the Fans and Markets
Bill noe the Regishrellow et Bill would be ince
ended with thir mdse.