The Express.
London, England, 1850-06-25 00:00:00

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Him. I appeal to the Howe( Commons, whether, after
yammer nauswered demands, there is in this letter scything
amessesearily stringent, anything oncourteous in the prover
sense of the term, or mate more Imperious than was called
for to meet the exigeneles et all MN ? (Hear, hear I Al.
lading to Mr. Pacifica's fides, Mr. Ruhnek said : read
every letter on the feeblest, and I must say that,
if I believe M. Pacifico wrote thou letter* those letter
prove him to be a man °lodination, one, I dtheld say, of
honorable feeling. I do not krow him. I only judge of
him by his letters ; if any man knows asything of him to
the contrary, let him expects it. I judge by the letters. Bar
I care not what be le. (" liar," end loud cheers.) If he
were poor. and degraded as the punt jew that walks and
bays sad sells old clothes in Logsdon, he was born a British
subject. (Cheers.) He had • right to demand the protec-
tion of the English power. He was assailed in that which
was to him as dear as to the richest amongst us. His
family beaten—his children frightened—his married desalt-
, ter male absolutely ill by the terrible frightshe experienced,
having only just lain in ! Awl what was the
consequence of the tenor to that poor, unfortunate
young woman ? And I am to be told that they are Jews!
Why it is a degree' to this country. (Loud cheer) He
asked reparation for teat injury, and no answer is returned.
He goes on. It was well known among the Cheeks t'.st no
answer was returned. A second attack was made, and he
tells the representative of England that he has been attacked
seethed time, and prays with almost piteous wailit go the
power of England to protect him ; but he prays to ei•.d after '
the manner his fathers taught him, with as much honesty as
you pray. (Heer.) Is there not something that ought to
dignify even to ourselves the appeal of this man in his abject
condition? Had he been the awful Baron Rothschild, don't
you think that reparation would have been instantly
demanded ? (Hear, hear.) Don't you think the despots
would then say—' What ! injure Moos. Rothschild, and not
seek reparation for the injury !" And you would have well-
turned periods in diplomatic paper', to tell the Greek govern-
ment that those injuries must not be permitted. But,
bemuse he was a poor Jew, his house and family are to be
treated with insult and all his demands Bet aside. (Hear,
hoar.) Oh ! but he has salted too much ! Remember, the
objection is not nude to the amount. The objection is weds
to the principle; and do not let us run off upon
the amount. The very day on which the outrage
took place, a complaint was glade to the government.
(Hear, hear.) Now, in those countries there is a public
prosecutor. It was the business of the government
to investigate that matter. They did investigate it,
and they declared that it did take place in the
broad day on the (Eater Sunday. People were
known to be there by name ; the whole of Athens
knew it; and yet they declared that they could not
had the criminals. (Hear.) Now, was not that a denial of
justice, and win not this man fully. justified in appealing to
that which, though he be a Jew, is his saluted peke:tor—
te the government of England ? (Cheer) I do hope, sir,
that the government of England will be supported in this
eventful view of the protection which Eneland ought to
afford to her wandering sons abroad. (Loud cheers.) But
I am told that there is a rule of international law which for-
' bids such an appeal—that no one can expect to be
' better off in a foreign country than the subject.
of that country. Now, I deny the whole principle.
(Hear, heir.) I deny it altogether, stated as it
was, and clumsily guarded by this strange conditioo,
namely, a constitutional government. What is a 001111:itU-
tinsel government ? Blend upon it the Empercr of Russia
would call hit the most constitutitinal government in Europe.
(Hear, and a laugh.) L^t an Englishmen go to Russia.
The Entheroe of Russia's rule of law is, that what pleases
him shall be law. What pleases the prince • the law. He
may take one of his subjects, (eve him no account, no ex-
phination, put him en a sledge, tie him neck sod
heels, and send Lien at onme to Siberia. I appeal
to the House of Commons—to both sides of the
house—if an Englishman were treated thus, would
you permit it ? (Hear, hear.) If not, whet- is your rule ?
It is good for nothing. (Cheers) The truth is, that the
whole of this law is not in the proper anus. • low. It intro-
duces itself in each particular case &wording to circum-
stances, and is governed by exigencies, and the discretion
of the persons connected with it. You will ILA that rule
'domed by America as well as England, and no Am- rican '
citizen would be supposed to be • protected in 111u•oia if he
were taken by the neck and heels and sent to Siberia upon
the mere ipso di tot of the Emperor. What is t:.. rule ,
Why, according to that read the other day, ia to. at igno.
rune of these fun, it is supposed that a
penes must of necessity go through the courts. That is net
necessary. If you hare reason to believe that whet you
deem justice cannot he thus done, by all the rules of what is
called international law, you have aright to make an appeal
to the government at home. I have read to the house, both '
as regards France and the United states, cases in which such
en appeal was made directly contrary to the rules of the
country in which they took place. Therefore, the role
laid down is another place is not the rule. (lieu,
hear.) And I say also, as regards this unfor-
tunate moo, M. Pacifico, notice had been given
on the very day of his di.-aster. Now, what is
the next objection ? They say these are little isolated cues.
Isolated cases! Are not all cases isolated in themselves, and
i was there not an accumulation of them here, one after
another, until at last. so strong were they, that, not content
with injuring property, the parties insulted the English
navy? (Hear, hear.) What was that case? A young gen-
, denten, the son of the consul, is on board an English vessel.
' A boy, 12 years old, is shut, and while the father is on his
way to hit house, the whole boat's crew is seiz CI upon. Oh!
but it is said, can you believe that an English crew could be
taken by four Greeks? Why, 1 uppers.) that four
could have rowed the boat. A young boy—for
he was nothing more ; a midshipman was in cometand, and
ens of the sailors was we unded, sad others were compelled
to eo into custody. Now, what occurred ? First, a lie is
told. They say it did not occur to the Fantome, het to the
Spitfire, thereby broadly contradicting the honourable word
of an honourable young man, and denying any right to
make an explanation or apology. So soon as the real state
of the case was diacovered, the men were f-und to be inno-
cent. What was the origin of that? The parties said that
two English vessels entered the Grecian harbour with an
intent to create an insurrection, and overturn the
government ; and, therefore, precautions were taken
by the authoritin to put the English into prison,
saying that they had put on board persons who ran
away from the island. The words of honour of the Enalish
I were not accepted; but they were told that they had spoken
, falsehoods. The English rent/emu, who then represented the
1 English nation, if he had not insisted on an immediate apo-
logy, would have been wholly unfit to represent this country.
Bet, I am told mediation was offered ; and now I suppose I
shall be met by favourite phrases of the Puce Society. (A
laugh.) But, if anybody hopes to preserve peace by mak-
' ing all the world believe that nothing shall induce us to go
to war, what mast be the result ? (" Hear," and loud
cheers.) I shall never forget the lemon read me by the hon.
member for the West Riding of Yorkshire on a very pecu-
liar ocessiou—namely, at a piece meeting, where his war-
like tendencies so broke out, that he begged pardon of the
persons he was addressing, saying, " Though you have asked
me to become a member of this society, do let me say a word
is favour of • war for H y." (Loud laugh•er, and
churl.) I well understood the generous impulses of the
hon. gentleman—he, as I did, felt for the Hungarians, and
he, had he been in that country, would have been amongst
"the tobels," with • swotd in his hand. (Renewed
'enabler, and cheers.) I lappets* we are going to look at
this Greek affair as men of the world, and going to ask what
mediation meant. I have quoted an instance where France
was offered our mediation in 1841. That mediation was
refused. We, very properly I think, stood out, making
our demand through our minister, and getting no redress
did, at last, urged on by the necessity of the case, teke strong
measures. The minister who did that acted under instruo•
tions. He had no power in himself to do so, but the man
who had the power was the noble lord. Mediation wss
offered, and well did the uoble lord refuse it. bat the good
offices of the French people he meepted. What did they
man they would do? What did Baron Oros himself un
&pretend by it when he diet went out ? He understood that
he was to endeavour to make the Greek government yield to
our demand, bat just or unjust, as regarded the principle,
sou not part of the negotiatign. There were many things
of which we complained as regarded Greece. The affair of
I the Fantome was one, and the question of the islands of
, Cent and Sapienza was another. It was most dlstiactly
understood by the papers which passed between M. Dreamt
' de Lhuye and Baron Gros that these other com-
plaints were to be left out of the cue, and the
noble lord himself (Palmerton) was particularly
marked and careful ou that point. His instructions were
complete and deficits to his minister. He said, " You must
drop the consideration of the Fenton' and the islands," and
it is clear from the instructions given to Mr. Wyse through-
out, that these circumstances were taken out of the llama.
Ration. 8o far as regarded M. Drouyn de Lhuys, there
was no misunderstanding ea this point. So far as regarded
Heron Gros, there was ae misundentonding about it, but
while he was than he changed the character in which he
appeared; he clanged it, soutrary to the well understood
principles of themes. The explanation given by him on his
first meeting with Mr. Wyse, of the manner and principles
with which he came eat, clearly demonstrates that he knew
fall well what he was emu to do. Staying then. he ease
from day to day to the tam, and at last pretended to be •
mediator to see whether our demands were jut or not. But,
here comes tke question with regard to Franca: While the
negotiations WWI going on between Mr. Wyse and Baron
Grp, M. Dmitri De Lbuys says to the noble lord, " Don't
you think wee= settle it ?" The noble lord assented. They
set to work. They make an arnageinent. That arrange-
ment did not reset Onus before a more defined one
was mad* by Mr. Wyse to the Grecian government,
for Baron Gros gave up his mediation. " I withdraw from
it," said he, " I can do no more—l withdraw from it tem-
vaulty." But now emu the point. After Baran Gros
bad withdrawn from the, mediation, or good officer, he
received a letter from M. Drouyn de Lams. The noble
wrote
lord wte to Mr. Wyse on April 19, tolerating him of the
plan, but that did not nub r. Wyse so secs as • report
got to Baron Oros of the conversation between the noble lord
and K. Drools de Uhl's. Baron Gres wrote to Mr. Wyse
that he had kimrd of tie convereation ; and I do not

kaow that tlall rabic WWI has taloa Drake of it, bet I
fartltor oa in the oorroopoadoaoo kg will ora that oa the
22nd of April lona (hot writ** Nun to Mr. Wyse :
• deop=ilitt the dlli or Ws month, resolved by the last
word for wed what follows. It appears frost the
ari4 Wiwi noworotoe to M. Envoys de Gut" that " if
les Wog WPM sole= to accept a memoranda'. which you
OWNIVIR/Mib, sod to which the Greek government had
Maid alit be referred to London, and that until a del.
owltive derides A 4kkop should remain in ottopors."
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Now, oa the 24th of April Baron Oro. whoa to Mr.
Wyss so ham:

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dr part et ihur."

Kr. W lug two days before assumed that Mr. Grog had
renoaaeed tho Nies of mediator. In the mean time came
the arrengementof the noble lord. I must, therefore, say a
word or two respecting the two plans of arrangement, and
the sensibilities of the French people in regard to them.
I believe that that of the nadir lord was the more favourable
of the two to the Greek government, but they are so much
alike tbst I can scarcely perceive any difference between
them. The difference I believe simply to be, that the noble
lord salted for a larger sum at once, and took no security,
while Mr. Wyse silted for a smaller sum at once, and took
security. That I believe to be the whole difference between
them. The noble lord asked naturally, was it worth while to
disturb, for so slight a difference, the first arrangement pro-
posed; and thereupon up starts the insulted French nation.
But is it the French Defile ? (Hear, hear.) Wes
there net a curious coincidence occurring at the
time—a sort of diversion by the government of
the public mind from the real state of the question for •
political purpose ? Wu there no dread of an emulate at
Paris, and a belief that by talking of • war with England
they might prevent the chance of what they dreaded ?
(Hear, hear.) Were they not going to infringe upon their
own constitution ? And was there not a alight wish to in-
creels the dotation Ido not say it was the French
people, but that body of eonspiretore who now hold in their
hands the power of the French people, and who, ignorant
of the name of constitutional government, confound the force
of war with the putting down by the sword and bayonet, in
the name of freedom. Freedom ! It does not exist in
France. There is no free discussion permitted there. I hope
the boa,' will not shrink from coming to a fair andproper vote
upon the broad principle of the foreign policy of the govern-
ment. (Hear, hear.) I trust my hon. friend (Mr. Hume)
wall not evade the difficulty by enabling hon. gentlemen
to ride off on the general policy of the govern-
ment. If their foreign policy does not get at the
kends of this house • clear and defined and unambiguous
approval, they cannot remain where they are. (Cheers.)
There must be no cavil about the question at issue—no
half messure of approval. (Hear, hear.) Thera must
be so broad, so clear, so strong, and so pentive an ap-
prove! that there will remain no douot that they have
maintained, and shall oontinue t.) have the power to
maintain, the dignity of this country in the face of
the world. (Chun) The hon. and learned gentleman
concluded by moving, " That tee principles on width the
fore;da policy of her Majesty's government has been v-
laud hove been such u were calculated to maintain the ho-
nour and di.yni y of this cJuntry, and, in times of unexam-
pled difficulty, to preserve peace between England and the
various nations of the world."

Mr. HUME, after observiog that the bon. membor had
not even tried to vindicate the whole foteiga policy of the
administration, with which he chclared hiussetf not altoge-
ther sstisti,d, withdrew, for the sok! of unanimity, the
amendment of which be had zivta notice.

Sir F. THESIGE ft, referring to the precedents quoted by
Lord J. Huron, stated that in those ii.s'ances the govern-
ment had shielded themselves from the censure of the Lords
by askiog for an explicit vote of confident, from the Com-
mons. By subsituting a mare convenient form of resolu-
tion, the member for Sheffield had d d the sube;antive
favours of the ministry, al:tough (u the honourable
and learned gentleman showed from Hansard) he had
a law years since animadverted very strongly upon
the policy of Lord Palmeri oc, whom he had compared
to a Inciter match. His I.nourab'o and learned friend
Lad undoubtedly not pursud the course which be
(Sir F. Thesiger) thoucrt waled hap been the
convenient one. He had net by his reslution at.
tempted to confine the attention of the house to
the Greek question, ceiling ut. on the H eise of Common*, as
he might have done, for a reversal of the sentence ot
ecn-
demostioa in the II ease of L it :e ; but his hon. and learned
friend had t,ken a more pru I. re: coarse, He had made his
resolution so wide and ezteneive a, uccemsri4 to include
the question of the policy of the goy:roam with regard to
Greece, but, at the same time, be had given to every one
who was desirous of having nn excu:e for vesting with'
the government so amp e a urge teat he might
be able to find some ground on which he
could place the opinion which ho would express
by his vote. Bat what was it teat hie hoe. and learned'
friend asked the House of C fano sn, to adopt ? lie said
that he wetted the house to reeeve that (be principles on
which the foreign policy of her Majesty 's government had
been regulated had been such as were calculated to mein-',
tarn the honour sad dignity of this country. Now'
he (Sir F. Thesiger) confessed sae thought there was some
ambiguity lurking under the general term " principle." He
hardly understood what his hon. and le araed friend meant
by that word. He knew they were all agreed with
regard to the abstract principles regulating intercourse be-
tween nation. ; but he thought his ton. sal learned friend
could not mean to confine the attention of the hone* to a
question of abstract princip:es, and Matters he concluded it
was the intention of hie non. and learned friend to call upon
them to approve of the pr'neiples u earned out in practice
by her Metesty's government. Again, there was an expres
won in the resolution in which &leathery was some ambiguity.
His hon. and learned friend said that the principles on which
her Majesty's government had been regulated had been
such as in times of unexampled d.dieolty had preserved
peace between England and foreign nations. Now, what
did his hon. and learned friend mean by the words, " in
times of unexampled difficulty ?" Did his hon. and learned
friend mean to apply that expression to this country, or
to foreign nations i With regard to foreign swims he
coacedeil to his hon, and learned friend that there
had been difficulties which they had had to en-
counter ; but, with respect to our own country,
he was not aware that they had been placed an
any difficulty whatever by which any credit should be
awarded to the noble lord, or to the government for having
steered us safely through. They knew that a series of
revolutions had been visiting other nations, prostrating
throws, shaking states to their foundetione ; and that
this country had been happily •creserverl, and had been
in a state of the most perfect peace and seen
rity. And the only oessib:e in'erpretation which
he could apply to this express. ,n. as applica-
ble to the noble lord was this, that from the
strong desire which the noble heel invariably manifested to
interfere upon every occasion with other nations that it had
been a time of great trial and unexampled difficulty to the
noble lord to keep his hands off, and to prevent himself from
interfering with those nations in the troubled state in which
unhappily they had been placed. (Hear, hear.) Bat hie
hon. and learned friend had been pleased to explain what
was the exact meaning of his term " principles" as embodied
in the resolution which he had propped to the house.
And there was no doubt that his hon. and learned friend bad
distinctly called upon them by this resolution to chose deli-
berately and advisedly between two courses of policy the
p dicy which he (Sir F. Thence') shout i call the policy of
order, against the policy of change ; and what his hon. and
learned friend had particularly attribute 1 as a ground of con.
tidenee in the conduct of the noble lord at the
head of foreign affairs war, that wh nations
had been disposed to adopt • course of
what he called self-government, they had never
been without the eminence of the nobl., lord who had ever
been ready to interfere and to forward the result at which
they aimed. And it was impossible to have heard the
speech of his hon. and learned friend without coming to the
conclusion that there had been the most striking contrast
exhibited by his hon. and I d friend between the policy
pursued by the noble lord who now presided over (undo
&Hein, and that of the noble lord who preceded him.
Now, in considering this question of Greece, let them re-
member the state of that kingdom. It had bees very
recently created and guaranteed by the powers of England,
of France, and of Russia. It was in comparison of the
state of this great nation, soaring in its illimitable
grandeur, as his hon. and learned friend gravely
described it, it was unquestionably • very humble,
powerless state. With regard to that kingdom,
there were undoubtedly subjects of this country
who had demands in a degree founded on justice,
but many-'of them moot exiravagautly and exorbitantly
exaggerate, who had unquestl:ashly had to complain of
delays on the part of the Greek government—(cheers from
the ministerial side of the house)—who, having invited, or
challenged, if they pleased, the iatervention of our govern-
anent, the noble lord thought proper to insist upon the eat's-
faction of those demands in • tone and manner most
ungenerous and most unbecoming, and to enforce
those demands by an overwhelming fleet; and
when at lest he had agreed to submit to the
' good offices of the French government the adjustment of ,
' these claims, the conduct of the noble lord led to so much
suspicion of his good faith, that is the result the noble
lord being compelled to submit to the terms which he had
originally refused, he had left an impression on the minds of
the people of France which he believed would not
speedily be effaced, and he hal done everything in
his power to alienate from us one of our closest
and most intimate allies. Now, in order that be
might make good that assertion, he west,' confine himself
upon the present occasion to the oases of Mr. Finlay, of
M. Panne" and of the Wean of the six lonian beam of the
Greek brigands. And wits respect to the ease of M. Finlay
it really appeared to him that his hen. and learned friend had I
not prepared himself upon the facts of the case with his se-
cutomed accuracy. The case of Mr. Finlay was this: he
was undoubtedly a British subject, and Is the year 1830
lie purchased of some Turks • small piece of land, amounting
he believed to three quarters of an acre for the sum of 300
drachmae, or 101., the Turk+ being compelled to part with
the property, the territory having been given up to the newly
*rested legislature. Now he had no doubt that from the
circumstance of the farmer proprietors being compelled to
quit their occupations that Mr. Finlay realised a
very good bargain. In the year 1836 a portion
of that three quarters of an acre was, unjustly he
admitted, seined upon and inclosed within the intended
grounds of the royal palace. At that time the Greek
government was virtually despotic, but it was not correct to
m that even under those unfavourable circumstances they
lid not offer an indemnity. The real queetioa that arose
between them was as to the amount that he ought to receive.

The King of Greece appoiotedomigi----..........inim0th,
the royal archive., and they cane to VIA deteroli
the laud of Mr. Finlay, and, he believed, 100 othero,-
which bad been taken for the same pap... oZ,tritiore,
be valued at more than half a drachma a itialr's 100 other proprietors agreed to the terms, and ladesantty. Mr. Finlay refuel, as he had an eadh,
right to do, aid when they coasidered that for tine
be had paid 101., a portion of which oa4 was ttad
and that his claim amounted to 1503/.. the dill'arenet. ers's-;*
fleiently large to be worth a contest. In 1943 • eanrittr,.':;a-
gOverniment lan appointed in Gr. act snd Mr. Fillart„,,..;:
was then very materially changed ; because,
up to that time the law and the tribunals of the
were not amanitas to him, yet they found that, tres'etu-'
year 1843, he admitted over and over again thee
it,
rhts which would be foundedis by the trman or
country;tee
and it would he the ultimately, a,
having been appointed, that council recoiumended th'al epa-
claim of Mr. Finlay should be raterred to arbitration. .g;
Finlay himself admitted in one of his letters, that
a very fair and just mode of settling his clain,,penai.,it
was • quitably carried one (" -sr, bear,' 114, sir'
it *buck.) If his hon. and learned friend would
1,4„...4i
on', be would find that that cheer w.. 1 not required '4, question did not arise as to who should he the eriutrat-et as to who should be the umpire, it being pr0p,.,".4
fairly and justly on the part of Mr. Fialay snit -2
umpire should be some indifferent person, to be cho,,,
the arbitrators, while the Greek gnvernment on th.. • hand, made a moat unreasonable repetition,
the umpire should be selected by the President. 1.4 ehiro4: fore under the influence of the government. And .;
way the matter stood, negotiations conticukg,
going on when the first blue book was rattail to ti.
in the month of February, 1830; because Ina. o
would find, on reference to that portion of it whir', te:r.1...,
the claim of Mr. Fielay, and which he thought was i
a latter from Mr. Wye. of the 29th August,
cloned that portion of the blue honk which ref. ere i tt
•
Finlay's claim. Now, he would pause there (g ;tl, •.1 ez,„„„,;
to consider that which was the important questiaa t , a
ther the claim of Mr. Finlay was cue whet
government in interfering litho way in wt. cn t. it .;!
hostile aggressions, in order to compel a satr'stt •
Finlay's claim. And notwithstanding the Re ae
his hon. and learned friend upon internstione,
venture to say that this was not a cane for h... _
that the government might ix:ee(..re
and with its mediation; but it hat no riel'.
was nothing more thin was evidenced in ti..
with regard to Mr. Finlay's claim, to a, .1 et
force and to exact from the Greek governmet• it
tier of these claims. Thu hence had a
to complain cf the cants, pursued by ti.e
mint as to the ripen they had t ougl.t „
ley on the table of the house w..h retoir, t.
Greek question. By the blue-hook of F, 'retro
the house would be led to believe that Mr.
claims remained in the same unsettled, et:. isbefor
in which they were left by Mr. Wye's tivcv.c.l 4
of August, 1849. What would the boo.. th oh to:,
learnt that, at the very time th's bir.k
table, there was in the roster int of fte
letter, rezeived from Mr. Wyse, as lone ss it of
0 ;ober, 1419, dated 18th Octob_r, iclogu.ne tt, re. tact M-.
Finlay's clam ha I been ref. reed • o a, red&
woe perfectly satisfactory to hot', yo.t• end th,, was
Cprepared to abide by the decitt.n Ite utn?.r- - • lieu,
eara) That latter was as follna. -
f have the honour to tr %nand to nyii
the further letters respecting Mr. Fin:
for sone land of his inelo•ed, • . • •
King Otho's pa:ace. Your Icrchhip w-; ,a
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eo'enrnent and Mr. lin'ay hare ae-ed:o r - • ,
tion, and that arbiters have been ap;,..1.1,1 • .
uaderstanding that if awe arbiters • o y -
an umpire, and that whatever decision thy; -a...
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U. would ask had the house lora
it not the duty of the noble lord t have !id t'
fore them, and not to have led the henst t tot
Finlay's e'siot was still under .:111C,t,•i911 an: r.
and that no arrangement whatever ec mi
final settlement ? Was It fair to lea... tte hou.e
imperfect means of judging whi-h is had teem thou,
veniant they should b' left with, in or:. r that Sir
claim might go to swell the cats! zos toothiest •:.. te-
vernment, and for the purpose of jur•if)itu the armkrone* which siterwarda took place ? Whatever :a
the international law as to interfer.neo tto,:er
other eircumstsnces, hero was a case in
sulk interference was excluded by the agrees
the parties themselves ; and the government hai to.
whatever to allege Mr. Entity's claim as one of Oa-
for interference. (Hear, hear.) He wou'd pew
case of M. Pecifico; ant he trusted it would Lot he
peed for a motteat that he was one of those aruded
haying low and unreasonable prejudices with regard t
religion of any person, and espect fly o person of the
"ions peruse ion of M. Pacific.,, or that he should woo
infer !root his religion that he wculd he likely •o ea:
an exorbitant cistm. He judged of the claim fr m es.
its eireunietattes alone, and with/ at refcrecte to so
he was a Jew or a Christian. From the circuits:in
before the house he ventured to say that • no .re e.
more uafou• ded in many reopectit, and a moo. . a
ease in all, could not be imagined. Pc '
outrage of a very serious description w
Aocordina to his statement M. Pacifico a-pa o/d
a house very superiorly furnished. His
friend slid that persona of his persoatinn o 7^
hiding their weilth: it was a Tres'. tetra -,rd -.-
wealth to display it in sumptuous turt.iturt
Hot he also had in his house a Great •illt/
circumstance not unworthy of stteett
hod lodged 30/. worth of plate with ttte
obtain an advance, at slow rate of iet/rt
to order that he might lay out thi'
iottrest. Had be really poss.sse i t:te dro!tetts oho
represented to have been plat& re 1 from 1:m en
don, i: would have been a WIC:. 111,, elllTt I i r..
exerting on his business to have reAe. tool h.' •t,
he might have done with about otte that t ore nto
appeared to have been in his potates:/n t'ir
have saved the it:crest which he was
&lessee. Looking a: the probalf.tiiies
it was not very likely that lie we-
of all that money a: the time Fie
robbed. Amongst other matters, M. PacOito s
a claim on the Portuguese government fur to
21,00/i. ; and fortunately when th• plunaortr
house, they did not take away with them a list
in the blue book) containing the heads of his c:s
Portuguese novernment. A mistake seem,: :
eurred, this list having been reoreaeutea elaset
ease: inventory of the furniture and other thin.-
prices affixed, of which he had been robhe 1. E
he tad the good fortune to recover a protest
severed parties on the Portuguese governrocct.
had been damaged by the roblom in thetr he.
cifico claimed, for damage to his ;crop rty an,
strutted., upwards of 4,0001. His roam on
geese government, oriainelly 21. i ,1.1; we
wards swelled by a demand for tutor at to
odd. The question was, whet any revs o oh:
would, under these circumstances, doe: of a of
aeacription—a claim for furniture eroi toot rev t/
onus excess, and a claim on the Portu:l``.:
only Towhee. for which wee a protest. so .sr:r.;
Portuguese government utterly repo 'iot.st i-o
and denied his right to recover. t dear. heir
standing the want of foundation for the greet: p o
extravagant demand, as must have been evident to 41?
son of judgment and esperience. the whole of it wo,
as s just and ressonoble demand ty our minister at A—
it was represented so to the n ,li!e lord in the cordepo
dense; the noble hard a lopted it on the footing on when:::
was presented to him, and ordered our minister at .t' I It
to enforce it on the Greek government—slli.::. tr,ol
his own arbitrary discretion en the subject. se ad to
tional tine of WO:. to be paid (A the n r0,..t.
juries of M. Fulda* and his family. i Hoer. ."eat
The question in the first place was whetter this .use
for reprisals, for hosed* aggressions, for 1/ nuns m •Ir "'t
haughty and imperious manner in Is h.:11 the ro .;<- ...-
variably addressed weak governments and too
ministers to address teem. (lieu twin' WSI ~., -
in which the government was jaltii -A in pursutn,o rte course
they had pursued, as they alleged in ac. with the law
of nations ? (Hear, hear 1 This a
of the country ; and M Pacifica Lox, ha.!
right of the tribunals of the country to ace.
appealed to the legal authorities ; loon,rl w""
the ProcureurtGenend; a council was aaiemibeo
was received for the purpose of imp:teeing t
charged ; and the council expressed en pitoon .
was no case for sending them to the owes. an they
were discharged. This was not an applestioi t,r taNam
den or indemnity for losses. but an appeal to the . plat!
justice of the country, for the punishment of the tt
sons. The tribunals were open to 31. Pasitico to racni•r any
comperestion or indemnity which the law wcu:.l sal ,d ton;
he ought first to have resorted to thoee tribune:'. 1,4
in tics been denied him there, that might hare ore..
fur the subsequent interference of the notte lord. s'
S nos
might have been assured the noble lord would ,•1?"
ready at any moment to grant. (Hoar. hear.'
that, in 1; 41, the riotous mob had broken into the tow •
a foreigner. a Rumen cathode, sad hail plundered it. ,
pony—nosey instances of the kind, he beliesed, I.
curred—would it be said that that was a case for the tote'
rereads of the government of that foretener.o- Ira,
claim ought to be enforced by 11,0214 twareston
would venture to say that interference had never I,
mended in such a ease. Pacifico. case was not one
terference at all; the claim itself demanded most ye
vettigetion and inquiry before so hod a step was fai.ei. aad
every reasonable man would have seen the sttospot 0,1114
for believing that the claim was most grossly and +bomb),
*gaga 00000 d. hear.) But it was not until the Tio-
vention of the French government that it ever oce az.. to
the noble lord that there might possibiy be some around tor
suspicion that some p ,rtion of the claim might b.,
dispute. Ile would pass to the sei,ore of the lonian vet
by the brigands who had possessed themselves of the eenc_
house of &dank and afterwards seitA and plundered the
boats. Sir Edmund Lyon had lest no time in m..eiati
immediate demand on the Greek severutneut for 4...Atalanta-
' lion. Hs eat-I,—
Arens. 3.01. 9. 1547.—The undersigned, her Britannic
Minister Plenipote.nnary to the
.Court of Greece, be thr,rliel..7_,,,r
Inform M. Cakitty Itellento Majcatra Miwisrer
Attain, that be has been Instructed by iscount I•Amin'. _
Brit innie Majesty's Prinetpal Secretory ,if niate for Comign tn.,
.7.
to mate that her I.4,lests '5 inivernment expert and demand
asl
tireck government will mute NI compensation to the mi.:.
emirs of the sin lonian bolts plundered atS'h•tna,
tows, for the limes awl sufferings indicted upon them br
robber.. and pintas who were anemia upon that .era-psi
.e..sion of the custoni.houre at Salvias; and to add that tier Mtn.
Land High Conunimiotter in the 'silken Id Inds will
meertain the amount to be claimed en Isittalf of the
crews of the am lonian busts, sail to send to the a113,,,1P
amount thermf. icurate
M. Csletti. in his answer, took a much moo.
view of the rights of nations on Ws subject, for ha. •

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