The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-20 00:00:00

ws-sre cleave ia the solealel @reeve, It Well
'makable that the Celead forreisry &add
'
` ionoureed that he was lnespable e 4 isentlag
~all thow subj.rts, the ability to eonsider which
'no ben rendered tie form OM chief qualifi' estiee
• Hear. hoar.) They were, however, told
ege rriaciples on whish emigratioe should be
~s •ioeb the eats loads should be sold, is
politic.' constitution *I the missiles
f faej, was so extremely dificalt, that
Societars bad fogad it shaewaswey is
hs Janos is referees, es them impertsat
' committee of the privy eoenell. He (Kr.
• have imseisied that • mesa eh* was net
ea opinion is sad poises, or net
i ors the responsibility of doing so, was the
be lushness to be • seeretary of state
.s from Lord J. Russell.) The sobs lord
s., bets.- He (fir. Disraeli) was glad that he
.1 to Lsten to his observable.% sad he hoped ho
' • this cocstitutioasl difilealty. (Hoar, hear.)
.ere the members of the eommittre of privy
hsd tree left to decide es these points) One
s eiMomati who tilled the office of Lied
Bugled, and who had, he believed,
,Rue in a se which mould mass his
tan.lta down to posterity • ice the games
.t raiment of hit predreneore. (Cheers.) Lord
• o.ia time Chastener of the Derby of Lan.
..,ugh he bad entertsised great respect for his
-.h., nreeity, 110 preferred the responsibility of
.00.11. Th. creed member of the committee
wbotos the Bard of Trade. The right hoe.
ororl, so doubt, every qualideatioa for the
• •.• asinirter, having greatly distinguished him-
' ?eery for the colonies; bat he would rash- r
. , so.onial escretary, and es *sett rt sponsible
yirforating the fuactioos whilst another
.t,r. I is, se two members were r.spocsibls for
11. h tb, y care—this one is the HOMO of Com
h ttr oat :n tke House of Lends. But theft
• r: member of the committee--a gentlemen
:he raw of Sir Edward Rysa—who was a
r Ater house, end soint whom if he lived at aa
. ity e. &el be Sled. (Lighter.) Them
iitiels to whom the hems was issiebted for the
!it takes Owe t the policy of the govent-
e e'..t 51W invite the stuntmen of the haute to
• ettch was the basis of that change. It was
•le committee of the Privy Council is trod*
sad was data' April 1, 1849 Perhaps the
...no sly there was nothing uscoestitet
h a enneittee—:hat there had bets

beton., end that the duties of a
State bad been per'ormed by them.
a • of trade and plantations were members of
-over. keart—an4, in fact, it was the vices of
.tira • hob was rupposed to have bees removed by
.r.
Ts, which had, in this mot, bees adopted
the prevent covenanted. (Hear, hear.) Bat
• . ir.nual• of the o:Mion of tee committee is
chamber? They said they thought it de-
institutions of the Booth colonies
into the nearest possible analogy to the
'roe Vol ed Kiosdom ; that Ike experience
t ascertained the value of the maxims and
•" onotitstion ; and that, in the absence of
.r and urgent reason for breaking up
t of dings is the government of the
be saline to depart from that
taws, were the overwhelming
this terecositsmid a change of polity ?
the duties of the Colonial Secretary were
.i.x.ittee. The noble lord at the bead of the
seed to doubt that.
• 4.I:LL sans that what be motet was that any
s. r J with r. pad to emigration and to waste
. :egated to the committee.
-..L1 cad he had betore his the book sating
. a,. eh the esimmitee• bad advised the lows
r. was the divines Of the solosies ; then
es staistmest of municipal eneacile; next
e. tag et noes is districts. Could sot the
--ate foes ea elision on such subjects without
ail of the Chancellor of the Duchy of
ano:her cabin.- minister, and of a
Tae seat point was the manage-
. .-te lends, it being recommended that
~TeSiiii derived from the sales should be
:Lean impravemeate. Was that a p tied on
.rotary of State emld not decide on his cows
Theo there were oleo public worship, the
•• • .sv li-t, and the duties and customs. He
. the house to consider the political
. =matte. Having takes upon themselves
. .f he extremely delicate and Micah task
•• . -rev:wort out of its scrap*, had aseunaed,
a.. the responsibility of a cabieete they said,
. ite 0.4 constitutional astablisbnen'e, that until
.4. tar it was almost the invariable weep to
.:.r watt.—a governor, appointed by the love-
. ..t.: . immolated by the sovereign; sad as
- • .• r. 1 the people. He had never before heard
s: •. el was an estate. He had always undentood
• ••.. •s• • class of emblems invested with Is:Stint
: •.: .r.r• three estates in England—the Lords
L Jo Temporal, sod the House of Commons.
. .• •e. Victoria was ea estate of the realm,
•a! v t her Majesty was • class of her
• 1. oichter.) Yet these glove gentlemen,
• .r•eing up coestitutioas to send to the anti.
x sow rant of what was mow by an estate.
. here was enough in this review of the
. • • the government during the last four years
oe hesitate before they adopted the pvers•
.•...1e et this important subject. (Hear, beat.)
. : of period they had bees the advocates of two
.rt swot hove pondered their measures long
• leafed them, preparatory to sending them
•ottless voyage. In the middle of this term of
.• :wary of State for the Colonies, the hot
whether in tooseqesence of a sensitive
his Wares or of the upbraiding reason-
. • j•Geses he (Mr. Die-aell) would not pretend
.-t the middle Otitis Feriod they found this fervent
• •r- - abdicating his (onetime and delegating
the result of whose labours was a total
:ohms of the government on the vital principle
• ~.se was then discussing. (Hear, hear.)
• r an opinion on that principle, he thought
• . oft come to the conclusion that the
• es not the best, the most infallible
le 4 blow on that subject. i Hear, hear.)
:.are his vote in favour of the pin-
' • c:. emben, however they might be formed,
himself against being supposed to be
• :.raStiOlt of an upper chamber on the prin-
.'.s riesa senate ; he wished to avoid any none-
•of controversy epos that. (Hear, bear.) It
• xs that every obeervatios he had made bad
• • • t.vour of the record before the house. He
• .- .• second chamber, because he thought that,
eireseastacces, it added stability to the
.• .• scion of two chambers was not hoe-
. : forties. He looked up -a it as representing
• -Lye priteiple is its purest elements; that its
• (tepees would be to secure the society of the
.apt at it, to set it out of the range of popular
•:. immunities • to introduce into those comma-
isvic.; element. It it were pat to the communities
whether they would have two chambers or one,
roe duo* chambers was not to be full of govern-
-..stinees, their decision would be decided and
-• • The Secretary of State bad told the
• :on tr a last few hours that he was lamentably
The-. w'.y legis'ats under such ignorance?
to prayed him to do—what he ventured to feeolll7
11 to do, was to inform himself better upon this
topic,
.and, until he obtained the informatioo, to
ooletwo.
HAWES hoped the house would consider that it was
s of duty which induced him to rise at this late
after a long debate, but there were some portions
';.-eels of the bun, gentleman who had just sat down,
rendered it absolutely incumbent upon him to put
-4 right with reference to the state of the subject.
.e.• member for Baekinghamshirr, in opening his
-sated that the question which the house bad
1' we this, whether they would confer the
'Vita of two chasten upon all the Austrelisn colo-
The too. member for Buckinghamshire had altogether
en :lie debate which took place the other evening on
'.'et, where, with reference to New South Wales
• r,lony of Van Diemen's Land the house decided
' malls, the constitution. The Committee of
• been constituted to contider various colonial
• tnd the Seevetary of State, in constituting the Com
A Privy Council, had delegated hie duties, and bad
'ter abandoned his negotiability. If there was one
which be had complained of more than
r, it was that on gnat colonial questions, the Seem-
e State hitherto had decided upon them is
, without due deliberation and advice,-without ask-
information ; and now, when he gathered round him
I knowledge to advise, and was adopting the report
bent make, the complaint was that the Secretary of
ad delegated hie authority and abandoned his 'upon-
Who constituted the committee ? The hon. mem-
- toniciony to the ability of Lord Campbell, but in
Sir Edward Ryan—did he not know that Sir
I:yan was a privy councillor, and had been chief
A Bengal—trot he was • man who had die-
meet important fenetioos ? The committee
acil left it to the Colonial Secretary to
'a reject the report. He adopted the re-
I when be adopted it, and formed • measure on
• .o on hlm the full authority of his office ; and, is
0 thai bill, he thought the responsibility was not
which he would for one moment shrink. The
oleo for Beckinichantsbire said that it was as the
the government abandoned its opinion. In
A Stanley first introduced the single chamber.
ltieed the bid whe • the has. member himself was
: the !Duo, and the bill west through the house
Ha would pat it to the house whether
ced without a division, and without a
• nation. Se much for the cirensathanee to whisk
t. her had alluded. mad upon which be stalls
11 Or boo* to Meet the proposition. But lba
r said that Bari Grey was ignorant, and Wits. ranee ; that goverment was ignorant We
t Foiled by the, goverameat. The covena-
nt Lem r times recommended two chambers.
tt* the Cape, the Committee of Council
tire chambers. Did they change all
ass hennas the Committee of Council re-
a 'i'•fee elt:mber la New South Wales?
re' Cunt:cal, hum the report of which
r made 1.1.1407.11ti,5, stated the ground of
.two, What was the ground? Let as try
.1.- tilt on the grounds there unsigned. The
• brad of the Colonial-01es altered hie
what grounds ? In 1847 there was a bill