The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-04-12 00:00:00

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tion THE GAS QUESTION,
next question before the council was the considera-
of the recommendation of the committee appointed to
.ttekeßionotdoeceonsideration and report upon the application of
Pith thebefor gag company for permission to amalgamate
Chester gas light company. The subject was
e the council at the last monthly meeting, and certain
Ceinditi
ons were submitted by the committee, on which the
amalgamation might be allowed. The subject was adjourned
for
the
oP
Purpose of affording the inhabitants of Chester an
hceanpdtoirettnunenity of conaiderino•
were
'ProMe' since then,
thato
sed that the fo.
tion.the eoancil be ret,
vote,
adk division was
by „e Dpeared for or a
.asting vote of
the atitme, with some sligh
tredor. Brown drew the atten
give rd r• Ile contended t
had °
ceasei their original rec,
d, and that they h
74L_ he been in town he would nu
toustlolltellded that it was wholly out of order. Ile therefore
aillad that the original recommendations should be
itdoytedl"ered as carried unanimously, and not as merely
Which
uy the casting vote of the chairman of a committee,
set at
all,in Point of fact, had no legal existence or power to
Thn
t Mayor expressed an opinion similar to that of Mr
row.
r.
4011/ Jones denied that tne
he considered as having been camel unanimou,iy.
telnitt some conversation on this point, which did not
qttio`l; ally resolution, the council proceeded to the actual
-re'
item -rhillip Jones moved that the report and recom-
ati,,, 'ations of the committee of the 11th March, be now
pted by the council.
mr. Glover seconded the resolution.
et r* Cutter brought forward an amendment, to. the
berect that it be an instruction to a sub-committee,
„frpfter to be appointed, to see that proper and ample
tCritY be taken, that the price of gas supplied by
tho„emalgamated companies should not exceed 4s. 6d. per
te„"liaticl feet, and that if this security be not given, the
listed do rot sanction the amalgamation. If the amalga-
al tebti company should have the name and the conditions
Nunalthoode gas company, that restriction would be
et -eeesearY ; but if the old company, over which the council
•genu.„..l Control, should still be part and parcel of the amel-
oe ,°or then he thought it highly necessary that the
itiku should be in a position to tie them down.
Tor the Chairman : Then I suppose in paint of fact you vote
IletaiVtroalgamation, with a sub-committee to arrange the
tottire Cutter : And that there be an instruction to that
IputEd tee to tie down the company as to the price.
vvards seconded the amendment.
andl3rown : Then it amounts to this •
%al °se who think with hitr
gatnation ?
ler• Bowe : Oh, yes, some of us are, sir. (Laughter.)
Air, Brown said the 'protection Mr. Cutter required was
virg!ubtedly a
Part OF. the arrangement now contemplated.
bakeeltli the
amalremation was proposed ss, was the sum
I°4l 48 ulatmum ; but that sum had been abandoned,
Mee; '4 Nva°,, now laid down as the maximum. The whole.
,Ple (If amalgamation proceeded upon the supposition
tetc eonapany was bound to a maximum of 4s 6d. Tha,s
seren)e,Ze case, he presumed he had satisfied Mr. Cutter
didlll,l;* Cutter said, as he had stated from the first onset, he
not east object to the amalgamation, provided the price did
exceed 49. 6d. (Hear, hear.) Upon the statement of
(If Brown, therefore, he woull withdraw his amendment.
L, hear )
that Musgrove then proposed an amendment to the effect
dira,,gle council decline to sanction the amalgamation, and
Approve of it altogether.
Itir Jones seconded the aree-2
th "qr. Cutter thought it only
bee resolutions passed at the me
read. (hear, hear.)
„Resolutions were then read and passed at meetings of the
4:John's Broughton, Trinity, St. Mary's, and St. Oswald's
4118, all expressing a disapproval of the amalgamation,
calling upon the council not to sanction it.
11_411r. Rowe supported the amendment. He said he hadith
hi' doubt that every man in the room had come there with I,lolrolnd made up, and therefore all the talking in thehewonow
asked not cause any man to alter his opinion.
Ned the council,
were they prepared, in the presßenticte of the..d
etlilticlos which bad been come to at the various ward
e-cgsr to go and vote away that which they must a (ipider
be the property of 13
face of bear.) He contended, the. _
to too individuals who composed those
Ivhici" such a step, they were going to do that
dt , they would one Jay regret. (Hear, hear.)
flog e last council meeting the consideration of that ques-
opiej:woesl3o3tponed in order that the council might have the
°Piteo",,4 of the people. (Hear, hear.) They now had the
tbeini"" thef the people, and were the council going to tell
talled7 did not care for that opinion ? The council had
dote uponthe people to speak out, and the people had
areal so at various meetings. The supporters of the
itth,,,gekation had had an opportunity of stating theirast
kongeote, and the public never knew until the I
thethe:llt that Mr. Salisbury could say he would amalgamate
eon whether the people liked it or not. (Hear,
the lie strongly objected to the council, in the face of
IStle-B°4olons before them expressing the views of the
eitizeh', acting openly contrary to the general opinion of the
„ Meat., hear.)
Nle a,,,* alter disputed the assertion that the opponents of
ey—neTaMation had the voice of the people. It was not
o 111,"„n‘e Who liked to attend a pot-house meeting et night,
r'eselopeltitin'Zd make a fool of himself. (Laughter.) The
~. of the ward meetings world have been more
litta ic,"'olr and more effective, if they had the signatures
tter, ed to them,
tbe ttjirost said he could state that there was no drink at
Th`°„oghton Ward meeeting. (Laughter.)
Of ti uhairman : I don't think Mr. Walker accuses you
lenking.
thkr:M„usgrove denied that there was any drinking at
"e"og which he attended.
it r• Brown said it would be unbecoming upon his part
he
VI be t, ere to allow the question to be finally disposed of,
coped hoped it would be, without his stating his views. lie
*should carry a majority of the Council along with
el.ehto
4 stlPport what he considered the only safe measure
A 0 Could be adopted.
11110,10.°Uncillor asked if Mr. Brown had a right to speakd
totn'.e subject, being the solicitor to the amalgamate
eat
Th
'mro,: Chairman expressed a decided opinion that Mr.
lif,ll,l'ad a perfect right to speak on the subject.
etalu," -urown: I am not solicitor to the amalgamation
led e'e°3', for the very good reason that there is no amalga-
,ob. . .
A r‘e.Pany exastence.
havenLughter.)
onncillor : But you it in prospect ?
get ", Brown : I can't tell you anything about that.
ttrtguter.) Mr. Brown then at some length proceeded to
Nekobe,ePen the general question, and strongly supported the
ed amalgamation. He denied that the measure
e
Nalel3o fairly considered one conducing to monopoly. H
tioa that it was not possible the present ruinous compett-
ee„tinZold last long, and that the probability was that the
`aeyi"Awould be left at the mercy of a company over which
45tEles-a" controul whatever. They would never get any
tore ilePersons to emberk in an oppcsition scheme, and there-
hoeontended that to allow the present opposition to go
c,4,t11",,`,1,,eu1y be destruction to one of the companies, and
eti,""u would be most injurious to the community of
)14-1.• (Rear, hear.)
etin etc (as we understood) denied that the ward
sakt: represented the people of Chester, except
,upotn
`csear, Principle as the three tailors of Tooley-street.
b 'ir'earl and laughter.)
bile aria' ;:laclows Frost declared himself willing to agree to
-ieh ,ZgarQatiOn, provided the amount of capital upon
t •4r. Public had to pay interest was reduced.
the eollale considered that the committee was entitled
Itnrdyeat thanks of the council, for having brought for-
eeilu,ch a report as that now before them. (Hear, hear.)
for-
Wit 01,„"e°ded that the city of Chester could not support
ehlth rrelife°lB.ing companies fairly. Competition was very well
ellte enee to large communities, but in arch a place as
optth er r. wher
he :o ,311 it must be destructive to the interests of one
*h i„,e4 competitors, they might depend upon it that
N'rt) "tune unity would be sufferers in the end. (Hear,
ai?ir' pre therefore cordially supported the recom-
k I°4.
k,.
•e 411 bac nu denied that the members of the council were
atltte-,itetes 014 d to surrender their own judgments to the
kb, th allY ward meetings. (Mar, hear.) He r.epudi-
bouaea %,"letiugs which were held as fair expressions of
°r'l:l`°ll. These meetings were held in public-
hear4 e an the debates were mainly sustained
Party of eleven perambulating agitators. (Hear,
the ,and
tt,„ltited „loghter.) Gentlemen who did not belong to
`Pose awuose meetings they attended, went there for the
„r°wlog double tides, in getting lip an agitation.
fit ell
„"..,111at those meetings, of which so much had been
--`tlent;'" said, and for which the special services of a
"4 of the press from Livecpool had been called into

st cour

al a reso

committee

m was

ions be rescinded

gama-

Ihe motion was then lost

origin

t additions, again brought before

to the person

on of the council to a question

en the committee had

THE CATHEDRAL SCHOOLS.
The following motion, of which notice had been given by
Mr. Temple, stood on the paper :—" To call the attention
of the council to the exhibitions provided by the cathedral
statutes for King's scholars to Oxford and Cambridge, and
to the divinity lectureships established by such statutes."
Mr. Tempi, in proposing the motion, said he was fully
aware that this was a matter of extreme delicacy and diffi-
culty, nor was it without the greatest possible caution that
he called the attention of the council to a most important
subject as regarded the citizens of Chester. He begged, in
the first instance, to say, that in drawing attention to the
subject, he was actuated by no hostile feeling whatever to the
cathedral of that city. On the contrary, he believed
that if the cathedral followed out the principles of its
statutes, it would be, under Divine Providence, of the
greatest and most essential importance to the well being of
the community. (Hear, hear.) Feeling the great delicacy
and difficulty of the subject, now that the report of the
cathedral commissioners had made public the peculiarities
of the administration of the cathedral establishments
throughout the kingdom, so that no longer could public
attention be said not to be rivetted upon the
question, and at the same time knowing that
their most excellect diocesan had revived what
appeared to him of all importance to the well being of
every community, namely the proper superintendence,
according to the laws and constitution, of the body—the
bishop having instituted or rather revived the visitations
in the cathedral system—of course every man
of proper feeling would wish not in any degree to
run counter, or to meddle with that which
belonged to another functionary. Had the results of that
visitation been male public, so that they could have known
what were the subject matters included in the enquiry of
the visitors, of course they weuld be in a very different
position from that in which they now are. He was sorry to
say that it was deemed not essential to make public the
results of that visitation. He had communicated to the
Bishop his intention of bringing the question before the
council, in order that he might be quite secure against run-
ning counter in any degree to the wishes of one for whom
he and everybody had the profoundest, the deepest, arid the
most sincere respect. He had always received from that
prelate what every man had received at his hands, the
greatest courtesy, the strictest attention, and the most
satisfactory answers. The Bishop replied, that nothing
had transpired at the visitation, or as a consequence thereof,
which could impede him (Mr. Temple) in bringing the
matter before the council. He therefore now brought the
question forward, contending that it was one which legiti-
mately affected the interests of the community. The King's
School was a school created under the statute which
created the Cathedral establishment itself, it being consid-
ered an essential part of any cathedral establishment that
there should be a school attached, for the purpose of the
education of the community to which the cathedral belonged:
It was of the utmost importance to the community, to see
that the school was fairly and openly dealt with by those
who had to support it. The support of the school was
thrown upon the cathedral establishment. Originally the
whole of the revenues then existing were divided propor-
tionately with reference to the importance of each particular
part of the establishment. To the schools in question,
among oth,r things were attached four exhibitions for four
scholars out of that school, to be supported when sent to
either university—Oxford or Cambridge. He need not
make one word cf remark upon the importance of this not
being allowed to remain a dead letter. Hew great was his
astonishment, when, on looking through the report of
the Cathedral Commissioners, be saw the following ques-
tion put to the cathedral body of that city :—" Is there pro-
vision made for them (that is to say, the scholars), when
leaving the schools," and he found this answer to it—" No
provision is made for the grammar scholars when leaving
the school, but for the choristers who remain to the end of
the term, and conduct themselves well, a sum of money is

,heir functions

d no right to meet

t, and

.ecommendations

that 'Ur. Cutter
, are not opposed to this

) the varioui wards, that
gs since the last council

.opriated, varying from £5 to £5O each.'

From that

y were

answer one would suppose that there was no provision at
all for any exhibition. Therefore he was most anxious,
even if he could do nothing more, to direct public attention
to this matter, which, if they were to adopt the answer of
the cathedral system itself, had sunk so low as to be in non-
existence. Unless one were conversant with the statutes,
he could not have found out that any provision was made
at all. It was only mentioned in a place where they would
hardly have expected to find it—in the answer of the head-
master of the school himself, to whom the public were
greatly indebted for filling up that omission on the part of
the cathedral establishment. He said, "By the statutes
provision is made for four exhibitions to Oxford or
Cambridge, but I am not aware that any appoint-
ment has been made to it of late years. If
it were revised it would, no doubt, assist in raising and
improving the character of the schools." He (Hr. Temple)
only now asked the council simply to take steps to enquire
why this was so. It was possible that the dean and
chapter might be prepared with an explanation, although
it was difficult to surmise what that explanation could be,
The same remarks would apply to the divinity lectureship.
The answer was, in that instance, "By the charter of
Queen Elizabeth, a divinity lectureship was founded in the
cathedral, at a salary of £4O. The duties of the office,
which were merely the preaching of certain sermons in the
choir, had been always performed by the canons, and the
salary divided amongst them, so as to form a part of their
gross receipts." (Laughter,) Mr. Temple contended that
this was not an equivalent for a divinity lectureship, and
that this, too, should be enquired into. Ile concluded by
moving the appointment of a committee to make respectful
enquiry of the dean and chapter upon these two points.
Mr. Meadows Frost had much pleasure in seconding the
resolution.

Mr. Hicklin expressed a general and candid concur-
rence in the necessity of enquiry. lie stated that the
revenues had not been appropriated by the Dean and
Chapter, but there had been a sorgloof retribution of the
income of the Cathedral of the kingdom, under the
direction of the ecclesiastical commissioners. Money had
been taken from one cathedral and given to another, with
a view to a sort of equalisation, and in that transfer of
property he was afraid some of the obligations of the
statute had been neglected by the commissioners. He
would have come prepared to go into the question at some
length, but that he knew the gas question would occupy
considerable time ; and besides, they would have this
question before them again, when the reply of the Dean
and Chapter was received. (Wear, hear.) He supported
the motion.

A motion was then carried unanimously, and a com-
mittee formed in accordance with it.

•
After disposing of some detail of business, the council
adjourned.

LIVERPOOL BOROUGH SESSIONS

The Recorder, G. Anderson, Esq , resumed the trial of
prisoners yesterday morning, at nine o'clock, when the
following cases were disposed of:—
Maria Mitchell, aged 48, was found guilty, and sentenced
to fifteen months' imprisonment, on a charge of stealing a
dress, the property of Mr. Bee.
Mary Williams, aged 21, and Mary Smith, aged 29,
were charged with breaking into the house of John Smith,
and stealing therefrom a quantity of wearing apparel.
The fcrmer was sentenced to eight months' imprisonment,
and the latter was acquitted.
Mary Moore, (alias Mary A. Davis) and 21 years, was
sentenced to four years' penal servitude, on a charge of
stealing twenty yards of woollen plaid, the property of
Agnes Hooson.
Mary A. Hobson, aged 40, and Mary Hobson, aged 48,
were each sentenced to nine months' imprisonment, for
stealing a coat from a sailor named Frederick M‘Knistry.
Ellen Barry, and 22, was committed for four months, for
stealing some money belonging to her mistress, Miss Ken-
neth M'Kenzie Pugh.

George Barwell,aaged 18, Henry Burford, aged 17, and
John Connor, aged 16, were found guilty of having stolen
£lO from the shop of Mr. William Hetherington. Barwell,
four years' penal servitude; Burford, twelve months' impri-
sonment ; and Connor, eight months' do.
Margaret O'Brien, aged 19, twelve months' imprisonment,
for stealing a waistcoat, the property of a sailor.
Patrick Hoffmann, aged 18, was sentenced to twelve
months' imprisonment, for stealing a coat.
William H. Dctvnes Chapman was sentenced to twelve
months' imprisonment, for maliciously wounding William
Seed.

The court adjourned until this morning,

CI-1E STF R TO WN COUNCIL requisition, really expressed the public opinion of Chester.
i
The members of the council were not bound to act as the
•
puppets of pothouses, or the nominees of other parties, but
they were bound to decide upon every question according to
0 lec,ing of the town council of a their own free and independen. t individual views. (Hear,
hear.) He repudiated the idea of members being called
0 upon to act as mere delegates, and to echo the voice of a
portion of their constituencies. Mr. Hicklin strongly
° advocated the amalgamation, as the most prudent measure
the council could adopt, under all the circumstances.
I Mr, Musgrove denied that there had been any pethon'te
gatherings among the opponents of the amalgamation. He
declared that the perambulating agitation, and the pot-
house assemblies, had been on the other side.
Mr. Glover, who supported the amalgamation, objected
,1 turn which had been given to the discussion.
He declared that he, himself, had been grossly insulted,
and wickedly maligned for supporting the amalgamation,
and that the most gross, vulgar, and blackguard abuse
had been heaped upon him.
The Chairman urged the adoption of the recommenda-
tions, as an act of justice to the company, and prudence to
the public.
The Council then divided, when there appeared for the
amendment, .8 against it, 23. The amendment was
therefore, declared lost. The original resolution was
carried by the same majority.
Mr. Hicklin moved that a proportionate charge for
smaller burners than those specified in the propositions be
recommended, which was agreed to.
Mr. Brown said he had been requested by Mr. Salisbury
to state that every exertion should be made to ensure the
amalgamtion being carried cut with the fullest faith and
integrity, and, so far as he could control it, to the entire
satisfaction of the council. (Hear, hear.)
On the motion of Mr. Temple, a sub-committee was
appointed to carry out the arrangements.