The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-19 00:00:00

PETITIONS

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nits orKNOIILIIDOI —By Mr. T. DUNCOMBE,
troun.Cleikeawell, for the abolition of duos woo.

NATIONAL LAND COMPANT.—B; )jr. T. DI:NCOMBB.
from • plate in Nottinghemsaire ; ir G. B. MICHELL,
kern members of WI batty at Brighton ; for • legislative
maser, affecting thair interests.
Btu.—By Mr. CLAY, from
Goole ; Sir R. FERGUSON, from Londonderry ; against
this buil.

FACTOIITISILL.—By Mr. DUNCAN, from Dundee;
Mr. DUNCUFT (20), trom Oldham and other pleas; Mr.
HORN BY, from a place in Lounger; the Marquis of
GRANBY, hem fietenford; Mr. F. O'CONNOR, from
Militia and other plows; Lord A. LENNOX (4), from
Bury; Colonel THOMPSON, from a place in the West
Riding; Sir F. THESIGER, from places in Lambskin;
Lord D. STCART, fr•im places is Lancashire and York-
shire; Lod DRUMLANRIG, from Dead's and other
places in Scotland; Lord ASHLEY, (a large number) from
Yorkshire and other ematioe; Lord J. MANNERS, ism-
rend) from factory operating of Bog ; Mr. HENRY. from
Lan:robin ; Mr. BANKES (21), hem operatives of York li
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Mire acd Ltacashire ; in favour of this hill.
Lawn's or Facroatis.—By Mr. STANSFIELD, hoe
millowans of Yorkshire, in favour of an Eleven Hoare Bill.
Tau PomOrrica.—By Mr. DUNCAN, from Dallas;
Sir R. INOLIB (two), from plows la Scotland; Mr.
FLOYER (three), from Dorseishire ; Lord MELGUND,
from foralasid; the Marquis of GRANBY, from &a-
lma ; Lard GALWAY, ,roe Raeford ; Captain BEN-
NET, hoe Norfolk ,• Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER, from
Plymouth; Lard JOHN MANNERS, from Lincoln; Mr.
M L 138 (sestina), from Somenstshire ; Mr. COWAN, from
a MINIUM if plows in Scotland ; against Snday 1411091 is
the poet-41m
EDCCATION BILL —By Mr. W. EVANS, hoe Derby;
Mr. DIVET trom Easter, in favour of this bill. By Lord
ASHLEY. from Manchester, with 4,000 Mumma; Mr.
L. HODGES, from Maidstone, against thes
ADTBIATISRMINT BUTT.—By Mr. PETO, from a place
(same not Maid), For the alrolition of this duty.

ROYAL PALACES.
Oa the motion of C 0108•1 SIATMOZP, it MU ordered that
the resents (ordered 6th February) " of Um sums of money
already voted for the different royal pa/sees for the last
three plan," &c., be laid on the table forthwith, and be
printed.
ECCLESIASTICAL BENEFICES.
Sir B. HALL fa,* notice that on Friday neat he should
move for an alphabetical return of the names of all parishes
and districts of parishes in every diocese in Eanland and
Wales, stating the pipalation of such parish or district, the
iseome received by the incembewt, the diocese in which
shame, std in whose gilt is the benefice—ens% return to be
given I. tables matmenelag with parishes or districts under
601. per annum ; next, from 50/. to 601, from 601. to 701.,
from 701. to bOl , from bOl. to 901, from 901. to 1001., and so
on in sections, each Girton lacremieg 201.; if any parish or
district is held by any bishop, teen, archdeacon, chancel-
lor, precentor, succenthr, prebend, or canon ; the name and
au. of such bishop, dean, or other dignitary as aforesaid to
be given : also, whether such bishop, dean, or other digni-
tary is resident or now-resident in the living, sad the Wavy
paid to each curate or curates. if any. Also, a retire show-
ing t►e several pieces of preferment held byneery arch.
bishop, bishop, or dean, together with the villas of each of
such pieces of preferment, and the number of homes at-
tacked to each of aunts peas of preferment.

THE NATIONAL LAND COMPANY.
Sir B. HALL said, wing the hon. and learned umber
for Nottinchant (Mr. F. O'Connor) in hi. place, he begged
to put a question to bias in reference to a bill which before
Rester he stated he would irtroduce as early as possible
after the Essay resew, namely, a bill for the purpose of
winding up the affairs of the tumoral land company. Hs
begged to ask him whether he now intended to introduce
that bill, and if so, whether in the shape of a public or
of • private hill.
Mr. P. O'CONNOR said the hon. btronet woe correct in
spine, that he had stated it to be his intention to introduce
the bill is question as soon as possible after Easter.
The truth was, that he had act boon able to be In the house
until the night beim last, having been ill since before
Emmy, but be bonged to tell the hon. baronet that he had
Walmpoiated the
•ley, 7'4 Parliaisanlaft7strast, willatittwiettawitori
womplishing the object He had now a question to put to
the boo. baronet He begged to ask hiss whither it was
Woe that be was twee a trustee of the toads of a amber of
pow people in his neighbourhood. (Cries of " order," sad
laughter' amidst which the hon. and learned member
resumed hie Nat.)

SOUTH AMERICAN MAIL PACKETS.
Mr. H. HERBERT. is permutes pf lb* moth*, inked
ch. government whether negotiation are at present pentlith,
at whether my arrangements are &Satins', settled with
the Royal Mad Steam Packet Company, or with any other
company, f,r the establishment of steam eonamannatios
wi the Breath or the River Plate ; also whether it is lb.
intention of the fOIIWIIIIIII4 to renew the reign" contracts,
or to enter into any fresh arrangements with regard to tho
tfinamiseina of the Antrim', West Indian, and Peelle
malls, without hWally determining whether a pout of
departure us the math or west omit of Ireland for the
packets thaplond Is that senior wruld be dtairable.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
gage awe that t egotiatione with the company were pending,
but at yutheet so dellaitive arrangement had bean Lined
apts. He aid not think It desirable that the rtaiinatr
departure oloald be treastared fres this Neatly a

LARCENY SUMMARY JURISDICTION BILL.
bil01.• the wilco ter the how gong lets sesuaittee en Ws
Sir B. HALL was Ant to make ea observation is refer-
saes to a qieeticm Wed Skim by Mr. P. O'Coeoroa, when
The SPEAKER said—The (20111 kes sitiadg fah4 the
order et Me day ; therefore It h irregular to pat my
goestioa.
Sir B. HALL—I beg to sa fad weed in referstme Mirka,
has follow morn the his. ibr Nottingham.
The SPEAKER-18 oust labs sow cam
opportunity et sating sliesesitim. The modem .cow
made is that I leave the as.
Bir B. HALL—Theo I seal Mulkey his to leave hie
plow, and shall risk him what lowans.
Oa the media that the Ifigeolme de taw leave the chair,
Mr. M'CULLAGH, mei., that this how do remelts
itself into the said semmittes apes this day eta sae=
&neva the enemies a the hems whMet •he s
the news which had Massed kW to give notlee
of the aseinadment. He did met wish to fereetall
any discussion. His elejestions were is the whale embetanes
of the bill In point of primal*. end Ia riot of prestice.
he Weed it weld be Gambled that so *PM geoid he
some impeoloth the& that aMa emsomell the eabotantial
show. 1a riot of yomet'oe it wail le moo. he him to
eon lb. Months ad the home te a Moms tibia he had
Maimed with mesh aro of the mid number of ammoniate's
tow trial at the minas sod qnseller insiene adios Demonther,
16491 the somehow of moomielah wed gm mambo=
omen rieredie. 16 lime of eV: esiother orith the
ui oll:ales where palmy was 'ldea WM& did mit soles&
the ode. of is. The Mimi ammelotelo is me, try
wen 2,024 in 62 et the lemma Moos is Basted. Tice
member IMMO momemilled y yams. aster 16 years was
261,heiogaboutenosighth et thewhale amber. The numbs,
of ethos= esmoehled. Ishii did net mend other shoat
thwormath of the whole. The total aof bilk
ignored was 26. These Wawa it wee uses tad were oom-
WIWI by persons of the wasp, dams of the entamaity,
end what he objected he we, that yon were proposing
to abeam the statists, while yea left eschewed the ancient
prieciple of the woodmen. He thanks, it would !readmitted
on all hands, as a pleolyth of the minted law of this
eseantry, that there Aeon be a soaspetthe judge sad a rota
meat. homed* and bpi tribes& It was proposed by
this bill. as sow so elbow were seaweed, to take up a
rlcalor Wee, that they might naive the potteries of a
cosemesst_ judge. It was proposed to substitute nothing
widish meld he aamsr with whet was takes swan cad as
each it wee paged to establish a priaciplo dangerous to
the best intercom of aseisq. The object pat forward cote.-
sibly was this, to save expeme to the ratepayers in each lega-
lity, and Othosik it appeared a most legitimate object
where the rateparen were fomented, it did appear to be is.
epee to the greatest *Wise when the pockets of the upper
closes were to be mewl la the expense. Siam he had give.
notice of the awadment, he had commentated with •
prise of it:mimeo and authority is Ireland, and also
with one of the most accomplished of the militant barristers
in Ireland, and he stated, sad most distinctly that be was
opposed to the bill, and Wald deeply r grit having to feel
himself, in criminal casts, deprived of the assistance of the
jury. One of the present judges bad said, I think this bill
unnecessary and mischievous, both as regards England sod
Ireland. If it should be necessary to accelerate
trials, the stater sight to provide the neesesry
tribunals. It was oat of the question that you
gam an option whether the accused would be tried by them
two ',mucosa or by a jury. This option was a reality, or
it was a sham. He would give an instants what the option
was. He hesvd only this day from the elm* of the pesos of
the town of Portsmouth, that out of 66 can which had
ben tried and adjudicated on, in no ace we. the prisms'
told be had the °pies which it was proposed to insert I. this
bill. It was stated, and with comidemble force, that is
the present state of this country taxation was of sash im-
portance that there should be no waste of the money of the
public in "'akin a criminal amicable to justice. He did
not suppose that any one la the how could dispute that pro.
poution, or urge one word against its being duly considered ;
but there was a warning familiar to am, it was the danger
of asking for public remedies sorely for the 'eke of a public
principle, where departure from cults and duty were
implied by the innovatkeL It WAS said that this was at
most but an experiment. His answer was, experimental's'
los yourselves in the first instance.
Sir 0. STRICKLAND deeply lamented to see the
attempts which were continually made to do sway with that
which from his earliest years he had been taught to believe
wee the dearest right of Englishmen, he meant trial by
jury. He objected to this bill, both on account of its on-
oasoitutiocal nature and the utter ine,mpetency of the
persons to whom were given this unconatituconal, tyrants'.
cal, and cruel power. He complained, besides, of the unli-
mited newer given under this bill of flogging all persons
'under 16 years of age without the intervention of a jury.
The other objection he had to this bill was the utter loose-
money of the id iunal to be entrusted with such a tearful
power. The hoe. baronet the member for Droitwich very
justly boasted of having been for many years chairman
of Quarter Sessions, and he said that having been
for many years chairman of Quarter Sessions, he
had acquired such a knowledge of the law of
evidence that he was fully moth's of trying a criminal.
He objected to this bill also because it gave to the magi'
taste oho may convict the criminal the power of nominating
the constable who should indict the punishment to be
award. dto the criminal. He sincerely trusted that the bill
would be rejected by the hens, and he hoped to live to
me the day when the Juvenile °Bowies' Bill would be re-
pealed.

Tn.: motion and the amendment haring been pot,
Sir J. PAKINOTON said that he thought that the time
Ise debating the principle of the bill was on the second read-
ies. Oa the wood reading there was a full debate and no
dividoo • and though the bon. 'Belabor for Dundalk had
given pollee that on that reading he would move an amend-
meat, yerhe sat in his place and moved no amendment. The
bill was then fined for committee ; and when it came to that
stage an amendment was moved thee the bill should be
divided into two parts. And 113 w, for the third time, the
hon. member for Dandalk mowed an amendment that the
bill be read a third time that day sin months. He protested
against such a course; and, though he nid not mean any
disreevet for the boa. member for Dundalk or the right hon.
gentleman the member for Preston, yet be thought that the
house rhould go into committee, when he woald be axle to
denied every portion of the bill.
Mr. P. HOWARD said that he would give his steady op.
position to this bill, beaus be thought it coatained prin.
ci,,les which were not inherent is the constitutios of the
country.
Mr. AGLIONBY wished that to. power of infl:cting
summary jurisdiction in the cases to which the bill referred
was gives to the magistrates.
Mr. HENLEY wished to ask the boa. member for
Droitwieh whether he intended to divide the bill into two
parts or sot?
Illr 0. GREY said that he thought the bill ought to
be divided into two parts, and that the committee should
deal with the first part before they proceeded to deal with
the second. Ho should be prepared to sate for the principle
of the bill, as far as the fleet part was concerned, and be
sow proposed that the house go into committee on that part
of the bill which related to the jurisdiction of magistrates in
oases of Cfiolll4lllendor sisters years of age.
Bir J. PAKINGTON said that he attached much more
importance to the second than this first pert of the bill ; and
that the course which he intended to tease was to wet the
sense of the house in committee as to the propriety of
divialog the bill into two parts.
Mr. LAW mid that in taking that noun he would be
disobeying the inEructioss of the house who had already
decided by a majority of leeventy, that it wee their desire
that the bill should be divided into two parts. In the event
of the hos. gentleman persisting in that course and succeed-
ing, ho (Mr. Law) would deem it to be his duty to vote with
the hon. gentlemen opposite) against the bill altogether.
The house then divided. The numbers were—
For going into committee 133
Against 76-57

The hit.*** then went Mtn essaamittee on the bill.
Oa the ht clause,
Mr. LAW moved an amendment, the object of which was
to divide the bill into two parte, and to strike out the latter
portion.
Sir J. PAKINOTON insisted upon the bill being consi-
dered in its integrity.
Sir. G. GREY considered that the opinion of the house
bad been decisive as to the division of tae bill. lie trusted
therefore that the hon. baronet would not insist on preserv-
ing it entire.
After a short discussion,
Mr. LAW premed his amendment, and the committee
divided.

For Om clause
For the amendment lO2-52

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Sir Ci GREY observed, that the alteration which had peat
been effected would not render it neeiseary to begin de novo
It was competent to the committee to proceed with the
remaining p'rtion of the bilL
Sir J. PAKINOTON understood, then, that he was to
proceed with the fin* ran of the bill.
Mr. HUME suggested that as it bad now been decided to
divide the bill the better course would be for the chairman
to do so at once, and then report progress, in ordtr that the
two bills might be printed in their separate shape before
they were called upon to consider them further.
Sir J. PAKINOTON thought as there appeared to be a
general feeling in favour of the first part of the bill they
might go on with that now, leaving the latter part to be dealt
with as a separate immure hereafter.
Mr. PACER then moved to omit the words giving inrks
diction to the magistrates where the property stolen did not
exceed Is. In value to deal summarily with offenders under
sixties Testy of age.
Mr. ROEBUCK thought it desirable before they pro-
eeeded turther that they should understand what the bill
was to do. Already the hos. baronet (Sir J. Pakirgton)
had got a law giving to the magistrates summary jurisdic-
tion up to fourteen years of age, and the whole object of
the bill as it would now stand was to extend that
jur:edlction to juvenile offenders of sireen years of
age. The purpose of the bill was then that
justices sitting et petty sessioas might have the
additional pleasure of hogging children, whose ages ranted
from 14 to 16. (Oh, ob.) And these measures for depriv-
ing the poor gradually of the protection of trial by jury—by
whom were they broaght in T They were brought in by a
chairman of petty *melon", and were supported by the pity
mesions magistrates. Ile would do all in his power to prevent
the progress of such • measure.
Mr. AOLIONBY would not be led by the example of the
bon. and learned member into the use ahead words. (dear,
bear.) He spoke as a member of the same profession es that
of the hes. end learned member, and MI foliE who had prae•
toed snare, perhaps, in the criminal courts than he had done;
and from the esperienee he bad, he must say he to ally (Re-
sented Arethe hoe. and learned gentleman's stew. He was
net a petty sessions magistrate, but from what he knew of
that body be could not admit that they were guilty of
the lajaitiat which the koa, and learned gentle-