The Express.
London, England, 1850-01-09 00:00:00

PROTECTIONIST MEETINGS.

MIL DISRAELI AND THE BUCKINGHAM-
SHIRE PROTEC TIONISTS.

GREAT MARLOW, TCSIDLT Evernao.
This afternoce the protectionists of the southern
division el the seamy of Baths at in snag lone at the
Crows Hotel, is this tows, " to take into comidenalcm the
present depressed state M sideahere." A. placard, which
was posted is 'ad as pens of the tummy, stand that it
w oral be a public aseanag, bet at 2 Vela the hoer sp.
point. d ter the oenranwarsaest of the poseedier, the whole
of then rams peewit set do r• to a swerves@ dieser. The
madams was aearsally large, Is soeseqesse of ea as
aornesment t at Mr. Thersed, see of the meaty membsn,
wood be preat. —Mr. T. P. Wtwene, M.P., presided.
Mr. J. TRUMPER, o Dorsey Ledge, moved the dm
moieties :

flat it is the opinion of this meeting that the owners
sad samplers of real property, besides bowing their full pro-
'tuition of thegenersi taxation 01 the country, are charged
•i'lt an et:llona twelve millions sterling seder the same
GI lead taxation, which is telt to be an injuetims in its pin
tilde and trader the present mare =pled pressure (the ma-
stymies of rawest kgislstion) involves • serious hasdahip
in usprseical operation."
Mr. TOOVEY, seconded the resolution, sad
The CliftlideleiN, after some turdnr dimmed= had
taken place, put the resoludon to the meeting, and it was
eartied, several heads however beast odd up against
Mr. REEVMS, • letent broom ol Racks, proposed tlut
next r. !mutton ;

" That it is the opiaioa of Ibis meeting that the foreigner
wise hear no part of .hose imptsta which press so heavily on
the Engl.sh krodueer is tiieieby enabled to compete on
issitspial ts nets in the English market, and that therefor* it
is expsdi.nt a adopt a apt.= caknlatid to render competi-
tion equ►l by raiiing a portion of the revenue from foreign
importations."
The rewistion was adopted, and it was agreed that a
petition embodying the resolutions should be prepared for
presentation to both lioness of parliament, that to the House
of I,l\llll he LJfa &este', toddle& to the House of Commons
by Mr. Disraeli, M.P.

Mr. GibßONd propreed the health of the member for
Baeklaailuseneuusi (Mr. thus. it), and in doing so directed
the nonotiraute eenleinati's attention to s paragraph which
had app.ared in sone of the newspapers, suiting that he had
Jammed his rents.

Mr. DISRAELI rase to acknowledge the compliment
and was readied with load applause. He spoke to the fol-
lowing effect:-1 rise to radars thanks on behalf of the
couoty members for the beard you have jar done them is
so eatheerrisolly clerking their health,. I do not think
that • county member or do =phi= better than meet hie
constituents from tame to time on such occasions as these, and
I am quite sure that my colleagues, it present, would have
beea very much benefited by what has been said today,
bat is their absence I am bound to say, that whenever the
iaterests of the county of Buckingham require coasidera-
tics, I have always received from them the most cordial co-
operation and their weans and sincere support. lam
sorry that I should be ob.iged to refer to an oheervation that
has fallen from the lips tat my friend Mr. Gibbons. lus
perfectly well aware of that to which he referred. In • parr
'mph, cat feria • newspaper which has been sent to me dur-
ing t course of this Lauer, I find that it is stated that I
have raised my read very considerably very recently, and I
am r quests.' to sort Mr. Cobden, at Aylesbury, to morrow
(Wedneeday), to explain the cause of my so doing. I have
occasion now to trespass very lightly upon your attention
with regard to this 'abject. There is no fans an my
satin the oat of which I have raised oce sixpence. Mre,
hear.) TDIP whole statement is an unmitigated terication.
I saver dreamed of tad p such a thing at any time,—cer-
tainly at the preterit time I am the very last man who would
think of such an set ; and I have ones stein to repeat, is
awl. r that there may be no mistake, •hat the statement
&leaded to is ea unadultereted invention, and I suppose
au ineitotion got up tour& toe purposes of the moment. I
attended this meting to say at ) our dukedom I under-
stood Ilia. the formers of the south of Buckinghamshire were
extremely anxious to express their opinion upon public al.
burr, and noon 'heir easitien, ard that they wished them-
selves to ask, the lead, as I think becomes th-m, in the
public bream of the day. lit fact, in coming here to-day
I termed to acquire, as 1 have acquired, the general feeling
of ;erasers on their proent position and future prospects.
We have heard a great deal of late of the numerous meet.
logs that have taken place with respect to agricultural
tress. We have read the proceedings of tame mectiogs.
We k ow in may ingrates the considerable number of per-
sons oho hay. attended. We know abet at is often stated
that these mirage are got up for what are called poli.ital
object, and that the farmers are stirculat-d for party pur-
poses; but of the present martial; it must be confessed
that it Is a scanning aseemb!y of those who are moss into
erred in the ore sent teeter puolac affairs ; that the farmers
of Bath Buckiugh mashies are the prisons who have got up
this meeting. That they have here frankly exore-sed their
°Onions, however they may have differed amongst each
other, anti very .reat abildo, and trotting that has been
said is an impartial and complete refl.: el what is passing Ia
their minds at this moment. I will confess that I came here
with, I will not say apprehensi is. but w.th some nervous-
ness alto the tone of the farmer's meeting amongst them-
selves. I came here with 'ems nervousness es to be cosine
which they would take. You kior these has ben great
eon:rovers, of late as to the course the cultivators of the
pail should take with respect to p lie affairs. And after
• lorg tampion of many aorta within • few
days of the meetirg of parliament, one of the most
important meetings of parliament that has ever occurred,
and when it is koo,en that 24 hours coinat elapse after the
✓umbling of that parliament without the expression of
public opioton as to th• cote of the agricultural iu
when 1 remember all tLis I Lack forward with great
interest as to what would be the calm conviction of the
farmers themselves as 'o the course they thought it wir to
pursue. I ask maw If now, sell thee, men meet and a-
dmits in vain neclamatioa' ard call for • return to that
mane we have quitted, or will they, as some have done
with great sincerity, luing all coatroom in the ancient
representative institutions of tad country, feel that there is
no refuge tar them but to fly to teat throne whico has often
in dime of distress been their seeurity sad their rescue from
danger T Or wad they, to this material age, like men
of briars, megabit together and say,. it there are
not some recta-al measures, which it is probable
they may nee. ed in ca...)ina, and the effect of which
may be to ameliorate their of-edition atone, an.: ultimately
to place them in • se's and secure p aside a. When I con-
fess, ,hat • te: Has months of coroner:ay and =tuition,
I on proud thee luansioereble re the farmers of England,
and 'Specially of bdike,lielitellbaliap,dismiesing, coosidering,
sad consul thug amongst therm :ves the num that, in this mit
meat of tetrad., an . peril—instead of raising fantastical
• and sweLiog coorus of despair—that they are
prectioalay exanduing their position, in oruer that they may
come for cud bcore the Mouse of Commons, and while
they detail their f demure, ne prepared with some sag-
groans for rem, dying tura. We have had an amateur
crater tor.ight, woo bloke a little into the order of our
protecting., but I am glad that he was listened to atten-
tively ; hie pro seating was irregular, fur although he took
exception to the resolatiou, and applied some rarer
terms to it, he was la: prepared, it seems, to
move any anthadmeat. That gentleman has told us
that anything 1 say is nut in y way to be followed that I
am a mere tether, and he wants a practical statesman, by
which be memo recordieg to leis own statement, • minor
of parliament wan wall propose toe repeal of the malt tam
Why, gentleman, members of parlament have been pro-
posing the r, peal of the malt tax for the Mt quarter of •
osatury, sadism never advanced a jot with it, so that Me
view of • practical statesman is of a statesman who does no-
thing at all. (Leaguer.) My brad, bb. Toovey
who seconded one of the resoin.ione, made, in my mlad,
some very okra-rat °Outerwear. Ido not exactly agree
with ham that an al.e.ietion of the law of dis-
tress woad be. a COinplusesiioll for the loin of
the corn laws. I think that even if that greet
remedy were applied, both landlords and tenants
would be is that vodka—weigh has of late been elegauUy
designated—a fix—uut Milos I quite agree with Mr. Toovey
Ma. there is no body en amain ..unteson whine acts are more
injurious to the mounts wealth :ban that body of lanalords
who with to enjoy at the aim, time the advantages of high
rents and low prices. (A Voice " That is • hard hit.") I
bore it is, genuemen, for 1 intended it to be so, and it is •
pracipie tar I shah alarm' =rim ; it is founded in truth,
and here or in any other pros I shall not be afraid to main-
tain it. Aid now, lam told that the realutior. moved by
Mr. Trumpet this evening is not • prattler reined) —is not •
remedy which wial Five immediate relief. Why, 'NOM
does that gentleoao mean by immediate relief I
If he means by duoiedate relief that he warts halt-
a-crown given to ham on the instant, I must say
that he Is • gentlemen who ought cut to have dined with us
today. (Laughter.) I do not protend at any time to
regret aerate, of immediate relief. I lure those motors
to the statesmen wawa teat gentleman admires—to the
gawk etoesore wha Lave beeis alluued to to night; but
while 1 Lad the whole k.ngelora iu eonsteroation at the
eireamstaaose which have involved them in diorama—
wra I had the great interests of that kingdom
la ereartiosa and unparioleled depression when I
had at the seer tire pnactples laid down by per.
um
of einasuce as the foundetim of byelaw&
which I think wall agyr.vate their ad-fess and preopare
the catastrophe—then I te-ca, r • public man. that 1 ought

to pressulgsra prlmelpre ol a caning tendency, sad Aria
seta mensuros seri, is ray jsderent, will have • sanitary
effect. 1 coneidar tM parrs of the cultivator of the soil, r
regards the legieledate, to be this-1 am not entering Into
say crtrueersy es to the alteratir 4.1 time law, which would
weepy more time Was we should iodised to pp .re Cu an
owns like tlue—Mr: l will my that than an two things
which, is my juogwent, Newlish Mims, has a right to
&surd. Ha has a right to dessead, in the first place, that
he Well be put up .r. au equaluy with his lelleo•sabjeata;
sad, u the waxed place, ho has a tight to demur that in
Ms own market le 'timid be pat spoil an aquelity with the
foreigner. Now, thew are two great prioasples which 1 lay
down for you to torts your public radon ; and it you
make dotards of the legislator founded upon these two
principle, they will be deeards that must be
reciprocated—that will be listened to, es all de-
stands lousded upon t ought, and truth, and reser,
sad consideration must be listend tavarail if eircinnetaaces
savour yr —a...), inset he attended with ream It is very
well to oall amass a MISS tram, and that too Is a moment
of distress. I shotila like to know bow, if such
a man dors not give you erumel which he believes
to be wise mei rend, how eivilintion is to be austaised—
bow Patios is to he Medicated, rid bow Meerut is to be
supported. (Cheers.) And thmat magma who
the titterers of truth as mere Wimp, re arid
naiads, aim saligueatasto, and, rook ifisking, mkt

Intruders. Now, it is of greet important, that the fanners
of Englead should understand their It is all very
well to talk shoat the landlords me. they an die
scribed as too active, end charged with actin for
political purposes ; sometimes they are siu.ken of es
tea inert, and holding back became their inters
rests an not directly involved aad this, too,
la an gge whkb Is ruled by the middle damn. Now if you
go to Ningisftar that feet will be told to yea, viz , that the
eye is rand b no middle elemee—that observation is always
mein& nth Mei elbeeelag, aid the 'middle tdasa is that
lushly le always eimused to be the owners of mills—what
I want to lapis ens the *name of Ragland is that they
aro the most onsiderable ponies et that middle class—that
instead of bin pained tens as gene, as they en elegantly
desegisi_ pusses who hen newer hoard them creak as I
haw ham/ lis dad
they are the most toe-
etheratio pith. of lireimblfilne, and Werke to acne
in scything.* aad iatelllgnee. Now I want to know if
this neater is mai, ly to be governed by the middle clams,
why the farmer.of Eagles& balmier se have said to no
in tantalises', should be treated as it they exercised no in-
fluesase is public affairs —die* be treated indeed as though
the cultivation of the soil Mai entirely depesdost spa others,
es having n posse to mein themselves. It is carious to
observe how, sine those remarkable nee* of 184'i, the
farmers have beet treated. Ia the first place we were told
that the farmer wee a man eke ended on his operations
without a setfictset amount of capital. Ido not maintain
that every fanner has as much capital as he wants, and I de
not way know what clam of persons there are that can say
they have as mash capital as they desire ; but I know that
two or three years ago (1h47) there was great distress in this
country. There was a committee of the House of Commons
appoiated to inquire lot* the ceases of that dbtrw. The
prime minister of Eagland was a amber of that committee,
so wen the C sanctifier of the Basheyser. lit R.
Pail Mr. Cobden, and oar late lamented Mend
Lord George Bentinek; sad the bumbles member
of that committee was he who now represents
the meaty of Bscklagbam. We sat 40 days to inquire into
the canto of commendal distress, and we found out, though
we differed upon eons points, the point of remedy. We
were ussairsoasty of opialon that the principal noses of
commercial distress WS' that people emeasend with cum-
names canted on their affairs without suSeleat capital.
Well, now, I really think that in the face of a fact so Im-
portant as that, aad a conclusion of such great authirity, it
is rather cool to be told that one wen fur the depressed
state of the farmers is that they aoudad their belies, with
less capital that they require. lan certain it can be proved
that no Glees M the country, on the whole conduct their
affairs with more capital than the farmers. We are told by
the same school why the farmers are not successful in their
operations. It is said that they are unsuccessful because
they do not keep accounts. I believe that farmers keep
&caseate man better than some cockneys who talk about
what they do not undentan 1. Than may be some tamers
who do not keep accounts. But what have we recently ob
served? When farmers have been told to conduct their
affairs upon the strict comer ercial principle, events have
transpired which prove that commercial men, within the Mt
few years, have had the distribution and amninistration of
the largest amount of capital ever employed in any single
investateat. They have had an amount equal to onioquarter
of the national debt. They bays had 210,000,0001. sterdng
invested In railways, and it tarns out somewhat unluckily for
them that they kept any accounts at all. (Laughter
and sheen.) So much, then, for the charge by commercial
men, that farmers have not sufficient capital for their opera-
lions, and that they do not k-ep euffluent amount,. But
as time advanced, they found out some new grievance ;
the farmer became plunged in such a state of distress that
it was necessary some new charge should be brought
against him, and after some labour it was disocivered that he
did not farm highly enough. I remember two or three years
sem, a gentleman named Meet.i proposed a great many alte-
rations—he was a very intelligent man—lis wrote a gnat
many letters which he was kind enough to send to me. I
sent them down to one of my constituents, a man who knew
something of these matters, and hersturned thorn to me,
with the remark, that Mr. Meehi's plans were most execlent
one,, but that if put into procam they would be utterly
' ruinous to the farmer. Mr. Mai has recently informed
'us that he hes cultivated his farm in Essex with mt.ch suc-
cess, but that unfortunately it has coat Lim more than be
has We. Coming down Millis meeting this morning, I read
in the TOPVICS letter, or advertisement, emanating from the
same • Mr. Medal. He advertises for sale a peculiar
bagatelle-table, which he says will combine calculation with
amusement. I advise him most strongly to apply this prin-
ciple to his tip-top fanning is Essex, and I have no duuht
I that if he does so it will be most diverting amusement. It
is all very well tor a L ,ndon tradesmen in Leadenhall-street,
who has a pretty good account at his bankers, to talk of such
amusement. but it will not do for the farmer, who has
move to leok to than mere amusement. This gentleman, Mr.
Mechi, was held up to public approbation for a very long
time, and it was universally agreed amongst these who pro-
fessed to be judges of such matters, that his firm in Eno
was a model farm. Mr. Mechi was ;eked to Drayton to dine
with Sir It Peel, and every man who did not pursue
the same course of farming with Mr. Mechi was described
as being a clod, and the reason universally assigned for his
being a clod wee that be required protection for his produce.
This may be said to be mere talk, but I rather think it is
sometimes instructive to turn round and ponder for a little
while and thoughtfully upon the gross impostures which
have from time to time been brought forward by men in
authority to delude the nation. Titers was another distin-
guished individual named Hultable, who was to assist
the omntry, and to compensate for all the evils
it had suffered. What have we read lately of
Mr. Ho:table ? Why, that be has bun com-
bining calculation with atteusem.nt, and he had found
that his model farm was more diverting than profitable.
Well, then, here is another penitent, but are these all ?
Oh, no, there were the great Scotch farmers. These eminent
inlivi oats, sight after night, were held up in the House of
Commons as model farmers. When I have upland as the
advocate of your Monist, how often have I seen Sir It Peel
wave his hand over his red box, and say, "Look to the
Lothians—see what they base done with their high farming
—they are min of capital, and men worthy of all imitation.
And what course are they now about to adopt just before
the meeting of parliament? Why, these great model
farmers of East Lothian can preach no longer,
and they do es all Scotchmen do upon meat
ocesaime—lay their coos heron the people of Boer-
land, and they have employed one of the most able
writers and one of the most able men they could have en-
pieta for the purpose, and he has written • most elaborate
article in Bak-hoopoes Magazine (you have all no doubt
read it), showing op the last imposture as as vain a phantom
as has ever to en so much lauded. And he has asserted also
that if the recent change in the law is to be defended, it
mast not be by abusing the farmers of England, or by pre-
tending that if they had reamers to other means they would
have prevented the citutrophe which has befallen them.
I come now to the consideration of the two points to which '
I have particularly adverted, and which have been pr. IL.sed
ter your consideration today. I am not one of those woo
believe that a dissolution of parliament is iamendicas and I
do not Minim that any attempt in parliament to retrace our
amps would lead to any practical result. I feel it my duty—
repreeenting a great agricultural constituency and wishing
for immediate relief, in a legislative view of the question-1
fen it my duty to take a course. which I believe will conduce
to the
.prosparity of our indus•rial agricultural ciao. It
results in this: I say that the farmer should coma forward
and demani this—that taxation should he adapted to
his altered position. (Cheers.) lam not contending for a
moment that the revision of our local taxation is all we re-
quire' but it is the first portion of what we want ; 'it is the
sus at step to begin with, for you have justice, you have if a.
son, and you have public sympathy on your aide. (Hear,
hear.) No man can have been in tots room, and listened to
the speeches delivrred, and pretend that a man who has
20,0001. invested in the soil is more bound to
support that pc rtios of the nation which I. pauper than
the man who has 20,0001. in the funds. lean age which
affects to be just, and which determines to see justice
' fully meted out, the farmers of England would
come forward with a strong case when their first dentsnd
I was founded upon the principles of justice. The question
I emphatically my is not a landlord's question, and for this
simple reason—What is the proprietor of the soil ? He is
the proprietor of the Taw material. He bas • right to get
for that raw material whatever the circumstances of the

country will enable him to obtain. Cries of " No, no,"
and " Hear, hear.") You have no tight to interfere with
such an arrangement. You have of late abrogated laws
btesue they increased rests. I defy you now to pus laws
which shall have the effect of lowering rents.
(Hear, hear.) The question between) landlords and
tenants Is between men u iudividuL, anti can
be traded in no other light. I say this not
not for the sake of the landlord, but for the sake of the
foment. (Hear, bear.) Lower the Itndlord and you make
the ealtivator the proprietor of the soil. You blot out from
this coturry by that miens the moat important part of the
middle dais. I tell you, thereon, that this question of
local taxation is the greet question of the day. I may or I
may not, in bringing this matter before parliament is the
forthcoming session, fashion my motion u I did last year--
I say or I may not decide upon meeting the enemy
in a different form. Last session 200 aembers of
parlisment supported my motion, when there was
not such • pinch as there is now. If I succeed in
taking off six mille•ns of taxation, I shall only secure for you
the justice you require. (Cheers.) Our first position car-
ried, thas the celuveter of the soil has • rig..t to be placed
on ass quality with his fellow-subjects, we infallibly secure
the second, that in his own market he has a right to be
leased on an aplenty with the foreigner. (Ct eers.) Per.
nothing mere completely shows the importance of nig
enention than the oonduct oldie eminent man, Mr. Cobden,
who has been referred to. Let us look, if we want soy
confirmation of this, to the speech he recently de-
hvered at Leeds. lie speaks of certain vogue clam tire
for protection, sod these he denounces in most unqualified
terms. Mr. Cobden professes to by quite surprised that
the country rises to that cry. He would net eondseoend to
aseswer me when I argued this queens in another place.
The speech he made • few den since at Lseds he ought to
have made twelve months ago in the House of Commons.
Mr. Cobden saye, too, he will lit to Aylesbury immediately,'
in order that he may open the minds of the deluded farmer,
of Buckinghamshire. Now all this prom Ike the harpoon
is in the great fish. We have got him. I feel he is on the ,
hook, end there I mean to keep hint, gentlemen. (Loud
cheers.) I don't mean to fan.. him easily. I'll give him
line enough, I'll play with him, gentlunes. He shell &ender
in the water ; but if I don't bring this large trout upon the
verdant turf, supported by the gluten of Beekinehem, I
am jawed 'reedy mistaken. (Lead skews.) Mr. Cobden
says, with regard to local tenths, that the lees we say about
it the better. I hove no doubt about that. Gentlemen I
do nee think that Kr. Cobden ever said asythiag train Ie
' hie life. I am quite ware that Issal Sonalisa will be the
end of Mr. Cobden aid this fief& 'et Nee when of hie
school. Mr. Cobden Ibeollllllll room ogles toes relief
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