The Express.
London, England, 1857-05-23 00:00:00

Princess Royal actually enjoyed from both mimes, it oss
mach large, than we now propose. (Hear.) The ?rhea*
Royal, the daughter of George 111., the house will
see, received nearly 10,0001. a year—viz., the 6,0001,
granted by the Hones of Commons, and the 4,950/
from the capital we Invested ; therefore I trust the horse
will concur with me In the opinion that the provision we
ask for her royal Wines is reasonable and moderate, and
that they will agree to the proposition. In a came of this
kind I run aware that it is in vain to hope for unanimity.
There will be some hon. members probably who would desire
to make the annuity leas and the marriage portion greeter
while others would prefer a larger annuity and • simile;
amount paid down. In a large saserobly of this kind, to
expect that we should nll agree as to the precise details cg
any proposition of this nature I am aware is vain. Bet I
bogs the committee will consider that the proposal we are
making is upon the whole a reasonable and a mo-
derate one, and will not diminish the marksman
of their act by criticisms which might possibly be
regarded se invidious and ungenerous. (Hsu, hear.)
Bslore I sit down perhaps I may bo permitted to call the
attention of the committee to the fact that Prince Frederick
William of Prussia, with wham her Majesty has sanctioned
an alliance of her daughter, is not an align in blood to ow
royal family, but is deminded in the direct male line from a
daughter of George 1., consequently he M in truth • de-
scendant of the Princess Electra.. of Hanover. In this
alliance, therefore, her Majesty has given her sanction to a
matrimonial connexion which may be conaidered as any-
log out the principle on which the suoreeion to
the crown of England rests. (Hear, hem.) I
ought to captain that, according to the rube of
the house, it is necessary that I should move the
resolution for the annuity in the peeaent committee, rad
that afterwards a resolution for the marriage portion shield
be moved in committee of supply. That, however, ie •me
question of form, and it will be merely necessary, after pm
ing theDlrst resolution, that the Speaker should resume the
chair, and that the home should then resolve itself into •
committee of supply, when the other resolution will be
moved. The motion I have now to submit, and which I
trust, after the explanation I have given, the committee will
not hesitate to assent to, is that an annuity of 8,0001. be
granted out of the consolidated fund of Great Britain end
Ireland, to be settled upon her Royal Highness the Princess
Royal in such form Oa her Majesty shall think
proper, such annuity to commence from the date of her
Royal Ilighneee's marriage with Prince William Frederic of
Prorate. (Hear.)
Mr. ROEBUCK roes to move an amendment that the
committee do make provision for her Royal Highness the
Princes Royal, on her marriage with the Prince of Prussia,
by granting a certain sum to be paid down, and not by way
of annuity. It appeared to him that, by making the pro-
vision by way of annuity, the house would place itself in
very greet difficulty, and would enter into what our cousins
across the water called " entangled alliances." By provid-
ing in this way for the comfort of the royal lady, they would
be providing—not the annual duty of considering the
matter—for the annuity once granted could not be
recalled—but an annual grievance which might at
soma time or other become exceedingly inconvenient. The
right hon. gentleman had maid that at the accession of
William IV. the whole of the hereditary revenues of the
crown were surrendered in return for the civil list. The
right hon. gentleman most be in error in that statement, for
it was well known that there was paid into the privy parse ,
al King William 20,0001. • year from the revenues of the
Duchy of Cornwall in addition to the civil list granted by
parliament. He (Mr. Roebuck) remembered, previous ta
Lord Grey's coming into office, and when the Duke of Wel-
lington wan in power, it was proposed by the opposition of
that day to give up all the revenues, and that Mr. Brougham
thereopon complimented the minister an the proposal end
the sovereign on his magnanimous conduct ; but that
subsequently Mr. Brougham woe obliged to recall his words
on finding that the whole of the hereditary revenues of the
crown were not given up, bat that the reveres of the Duchy
of Lancaster were retained. (Hear, hear.) To say that the
present position of the civil lid was altogether different
therefore from what it was in the reign of Gee. 111. in this
respect was not correct. Take the Duchy of Cornwall : the
right hon' gentleman bad stated that the revenues of that
duchy, which he understood were 26,0001. a year net, were
accumulating for the benefit of the Prince of Wales. He
suppreed therefore that when him royal highness came to his
majority he would have • very emuiderable mum of :nosey at
by Orommaald--Isonma *amnia, exact by the expernme of
his education truly—but still • very large MIL
But certainly the doings of George 111., and an unreformed
psatisseent, aught set to be brought forward as a precedent
Ihr Os potoot polleseot to act upon—the more se, as w-
ebs mime paepostarese than the doings of George 111. end
Wilieteat could hardly be conceived. (Hear, hear.) So '
ptpettmse was it then considered to mingle up these
heregeseens materials and call them the civil lie, that when
Lord Grey rem into power, on the motion of Sir H. Parnell,
emir spinet the then ministry, the civil list was separated
from thole crepe which did not properly belong to it,
dos ending abegeree all that was not necessary foe
the par emal ecommodation and comfort of the maereillk
Sim then the civil list lid been conducted en eation.l
Mtn, and pediment, in voting It, knew that the sum voted
Irma for the personal comfort of the sovereign, and for to
insinternee of hie or her personal dignity, and that only. II
wee tree that we had no longer these personal appeals son
the moversign which were formerly made to parliament, ad
as me pre am credit to her Majesty for the economy it
had emoted in her household and personal expenses the
ha did ; but it mat not he forgotten that, in addition to the
civil list of nearly 400,0001. • year, her Msjesty's comet
had been amply provided for. (Hear.) Not only lid
they given him an annuity of 30,000/. a year, bat
many very lucrative appointments in addition. (Hear)
Parliament had dealt generously with her Majesty In pro-
viding her also with a suitable residence, he would not mil
a magnificent building, for it was, architecturally spealdnima
abortion—Buckingham Pekoe—(frmar, hear)—nor was than
se far as parliament and the nation were concerned, one
*fag wanting in the provision made for the comfort of bat i
Majesty, her royale:rod, and her family. (Cheers.) We
had been to bee • gamer nation, and we had dealt out to
her the substance of the nation with no niggard band, and her
WPM bed repaid that peereeity in a manner worthy of the
severeign el rah • people. (Hear.) He would not follow the
right hon. prime= in his talk about how little her
Majesty had expended in her journeys to foreign courts, or
how far the visits paid to foreign sovereigns were visits
of prince or • profit to the country. He hoped they
combined both. The house must, however, recollect that
they were now celled upon to set • precedent, sad that there
re a large family for whom they would in all probability be
called upon to make similar provision hereafter; and it were
somewhat too hard that that house, which represented the
hard-working, hard-baniek and often sorrowing people of
Innieni, Medd be called net to maiden those of whom they '
yaw flm ooneentatives, pal to owlet their gee and hands
Nei oor whit they woe brit to pay. (Hear, bear.) As
ospooneedomo of the peep* they were not
be le jest ham they were gpreess ; that was no .
whet he had eild—(bar, hear)—but to be jut
whom they nem geiemona.—On these grounds he moved
an amendment to Ito eight boo. gentleman's resolution th:
• mdialle =why pss be presented to her Royal Higt
am the ?doom Royal by way of • sum certain in lieuo
as annuity.
Mr.W.WILLIAMS seconded the amendment. He entird!
agreed with the hon. and learned member, and begged t.
were the committee that the universal foaling of the people
out of doors was that it would be far better to give a round sun
to her royal highness on her marriage than an annuity. Hi
should like to know whether it woe intended to continuo
this B,oooi, to the Princess when she became Queen of
Prussia, should that event happen, which was most likely to
be the cam. For himself, he should consider it • most
fenaive proceeding to tax the people of this country to male-
fain a foreign moversign, with whom, at some time or other,
we might possibly bed war. (Hear, hear.) If the homy
decided in favour of the annuity, he hoped they would his
care that It should terminate when tho princess bens,
Queen of Prussia ; and not, by continuing it, place n holy ix
so exalted a station in the humiliating position of a pemioser
on the public of England. (Cheers.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER reinand,
that it was exceedingly difficult to deal with the oppositior. of
the hob. and learned member, inasmuch ea he had not aid
what amount he proposed to grant in lieu of the anue.dey. If
he meat that parliament should grant a am down est
would produce anything like the annuity whir', the pear
meat proposed, they meet increase the 40 0001. to a ivy
large extent. Bat although the hon. end 'maned earakess
prtriteeed to speak on behalf of the o,„0, WM.," by WS
Plan be would make • bargain far more unfavourable for the
country than would be made by hie, (the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer's) proposal, insomuch Piths hon. and learned meth-
miaeronld grant absolutely e large sumo be invested in
Meese d trONtail, the umpired of which would be paid to bar
royal Mews' during her life, and at her death the Made
Pal Meld be ditireibutad amongst her charm, cc se the