The Express.
London, England, 1850-07-03 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS-Tvnon, JVLT K
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*esker.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
Stamm Enatintims—Vneount Ildietoe's Estate la-
weraess Academy and Meshes:eh FAIV Feed Emits ; Greet
Ousted Gs Commumen Campos, (No 2); Borough et Sai-
led Waterwerlue and Ineprenemeat ; Reading Union
Waterworks; Merionethshire Turnpike Roads; Midland
Great Western 'tenuity of Imbed ; Bills.
TRIM KlAlMlO.—Waterford sad Kilkenny Railway
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GREAT NORTHERN RAILWAY DEVIATIONS
ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Oa the moths of Lord WaAlUlcl.ll7l, this bill was and
a third time sad parsed.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS BILL.
Lord BROUGHAM premed a pekes from the South
Merepolitaa Cemetery Compaay,somplainiag of the powers
that weed be 'ushered on the board of maaspmeat trader
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• THE EXPOSITION OF 1851— HYDE PARK.
Lord BROUGHAM—My lords, in pursuance of the
estiew which 1 have given I intended to bring forward
the subject which at present occupies so tarp • por-
tion of public attention, and which has caused an
apprehension in the minds of many—ladeed I believe I
might say amongst all the inhabitants of this great metro-
polis-1 meal the projected destruction of Hyde-park, by
the priest public sap eition of the metinsfastares of all me
lions to be held in 1851. (Hear, bear.) I have been strongly
urged not to postpone my =GO= ; but I leave yielded to the
suggestion that I ought to du so until after the report of the
commissioner shall have been made. I have set yet seen
that report which is to be made by the cummistiesen eon-
elected with the exposition ; sad! shall, therefore, *epeeist
postpone my motion till Thursday, when I shall certainly
bring it forwent. (Hear, hear.)
Lord CAMPBELL hoped his noble and learned friend
would not farther postpone it. (" Hear, bear," from Lord
Brougl am ) He (Lord Campbell) owed a duty to his
kllow-esbjects es well as to the crown ; and be was, therefore,
impelled to utter his solemn warning against the projected
proeeedins, which, if no: illegal, were at leant unconstitu.
Meal, and calculated to etuse serious and grievous incon-
venience to the resole of one whom they all wished to
Tepee Meer, Imre
Lard BROUGHAM bagel to assure hi" noble and
learned Mend that he would not postpone the motion be
yoad Thursday ; and, had he recollected that his noble and
learned friend would be called away by the duties of circuit
immediately, he would not have postponed It even to
Thursday. (Hirer, hear.) Its (Lord Brougham) was de-
termined to give the inauspicious measure every resistance
in his power, (Hear, hear.)
The subject then drooped.
THE FACTORIES BILL.
The Duke of RICHMOND gave notice that, on the
second reading of the Factories Bill, it was his intention to
move an amendment similar to that which bad been intro-
duced by Lord John Banners in the House of Commons.
Lord FEVERSHAM inquired when the mead reading
of the bill would he taken ?
Earl GRANVILLE replied on Monday next.
EDUCATION.
The Earl of HARROWBY (who was indistinctly heard),
in rising to save for the " appointment of a select commit-
tee to inquire into the operation and effect of the system
under which the I grant of public money for the pur-
poses of education is administered." said it would be his
duty to touch ;only on a hew leading points is cennexion
with the rubies. before the house, without going into details,
o induce their lordships to coincide in the view which he (the
noble earl) entertained. He thought the event of last yea-
proved there was only one way open, namely, education im-
parted through the several religion bodies in the commu-
nity. (Hear, bear.) He tallied that in the preset sir-
attestants of the country, that was the only mine
they could with safety adopt. (Hear, hear.) It was
im-
poesible to separa'e religion from education. They might
separate instruction from religion; hot ideation they I
could not; and on that point be thought the mind of the
country was mate up He thought the alternative of giving
rerensw quid would not be distasteful to any peen ; but
eduatien and rcligi on should be usocisted. (Hear, hear )
The committee of education was entrusted with almost an.
Controlled power, and it was not unnatural that it should be 1
looker' upon with jealousy. They were possessed of a great 1
and delicate power which it was desirable to watch from time
to time. Another point of great importance was to ascertain
if the present system of inspection was managed in such •
manner as really to work out the objects which were content-
plated by its institution. He suppAed it would not be de-
stied that the elevation of the lower classes was the object
principally to be sousidered in a system of national *dun-
tion. But the scale of education required of the school-
masters was raised far too high. He knew of me
instance where seven of those who were receiving
iassruciios in the training school were preparing themselves
to become derma's. The cosseruenee of such a system
was that there win a displacement of occupations, and many
who would naturally he grouts' apprentices, or who would
turn to some similar Deism, looked to higher employment.
The middle classes tot unnaturally were jealous at such a
state of things, and somplainsel that en education was pro-
vided fur the labour's, clams at the expense of the state,
which they were not able to emir* for their own children.
With
m regard to female education, the objection that the (de
on cati was en without reference to the situation of the
Enktireceiving it, was perhaps more forcible. He held in
nd sons ol the questioas which were asked in the
female schools, sad amongst them were such as the fallow-
ing —" State the difference between monogamous and aye-
to ." (Laughter.) He who happened to have the
a vactage of learning Greek might know the difference,
but he much quesioned the utility of putting such a open
Lon to mantles in the elms of life fir whom national edam.
tior. was intenied. (Hear, hew.) Other questions wers.
"What do you mean by quadnmenoua animals? "
(LAW-ter.) " What 1110711 the literary ;inductions of the
Aril Saxon period?" (Laughter.) These persons might,
indeed, obtain from a oat-china some superficial g .bble so
such subjects, but such instruction would leave the mind set
only uninformed, bat in a worse condition than if it wen
totally uneduested. (Hear, hear.) It was really • mime
matter to divan the meads of those who were to instruct the'
people from obtaining sound informaeion on two cr *reel
leading brandies of knowledge, and spreading it thinly—very
Maly,. laded—over thirteen or fourteen different subjects
on which it was impossible for thee to acquire anything like
attests infocenation. (Hear.) He did set by any mesas
desire to limit the aqui:emu's of any; bat what he main•
tallied was, that this should be left to the love of learning in
the individual, but should not be Breed at the expense of
the state. (Haar, hear.) He admitted that inspection was
useful, if it was only foe the purpose of ecertainine what
was going on with respect to the education of the
country-be admitted that the reports of the iaspectors
showed that they were perms of informatics and of high
character, and that their only desire was to advance the
welfare of the country. But whilst he admitted all this,
the tendency of the system of inspection was to centralise
everything connected with the education of the country, and
to destroy everything like local influence and eontroL The
results which each • system had produced on the coatiamt,
as proved by the events of the last two years, ought to be a
wanting to the government and to their lordships, hew
they permitted a similar system to take root in England. Ho
warned them how they turned out year by year from the
Chrysalis state, thousands upon thousands of full-blown
schoolmasters with wits sharpened, knowledge extended and
character perhaps not improved from the discipline they
were subjected to, to become, probably, preachers of discon-
tent throughout the country. (Hear, hear.) He did not
ask for a osounittee with a he'lle view, but merely for the
purpose of bigotry, in order that etnecdment might be made
U amendment was required ; that if what he had stated was
exaggerated it might be reduced to its proper amount; if
anything that was false, that it might be rectified and cor-
rected. (Hear, hear.) The noble earl then complained of
the system pursued by the committee of council with respect
to the education of children in workhouses end paob,
He was inclined to disapprove of the system by which young
men were subjected to • seven years' training as schoolmas-
ters, on the grour.d that sufficiently qualified persons might
easily be obtained.
The motion Bain' been seconded,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said: To the honour ;
of the inspectors, IMO of whom he had recommended, after
most careful inquiry, he would state that, up to this
moment, there ad been hardly a single complaint
as to their endue. In the main, they had had
the good fortune to find favour is the ors of all with
whom they bed communicated, who expressed themselves
deeply indebted for the advice and assistance they had re-
ceived. The nob:* earl alleged that there was a disposition
on the part of the inspectors to push their examinations for-
the than they ought, and to make requirements of too high
• dui. This allegation had often been made, sad it nem
su-
lly happened that if men of great attainmentsi were se-
lected as inspectors they would be disposed to Mee the stan-
dard of the schools as high as possible. They stated, in
explanation, that though they took the books in the school
sad eked questions oat of them as an intellectual exercise,
that examination only formed one branch of the Inquiry
which they were authorised to nuke. It was part of their
instructions that they were not to establish their standard of
merit on the intellectual acquirements alone of the pupils, but
to have regard to their moral and refigioss conduct, as cer-
tified by the schoolmasters and clergyman. In the reports
transmitted from local committees to the emetinittee of privy
council, the degree of moral corded and rellstious know-
ledge always formed a particular feature of those reports.
A clergyman in Lancashire complained of the difficult quer-
tiles put by one of the inspector., Mr. Cooke, who was ap-
pointed, not by him, but by the late Lord Wharncliffe • re-
ference was made to Mr. Cooke; and his explanation showed
that the questions he had put wore actually in sae in the
school where the examination took place, and that those
who could not answer them were deficient in other re
specie. The noble earl alleged that jealousies bad been
created in the abide of many by this system of education.
He, on the other hand, had the mat concurrent testimony
from clergymen in all quarters of the benefits of the system,
and of the perfect harmony of its working. Since the re-
oat step taken by the National Society, the committee of
maned had had no leas than 100 applications from clergy-
men who were willing to accept the management clauses.
It should be remembered that these clauses had originated
with the National Society, to meet whose views the system
of Inspoetio• bad been established, and the management
clauses had bees modified from time to time. The whole
gravamen el the National Soeiety'e complaint was that seams
was rojeired to be made out before the dampest could ex-
ercise the sole emoted, temporal as well as spiritual, of the
schools. He must et ny that this was ever the intention Of
pediment is making this grant, especially If the
were opposed is their views to the lay rf%
schools. It wee Serer meant that the of inioa of the clergy-