The Express.
London, England, 1857-10-24 00:00:00

71111 00ALWILIPP11813 OF LONDON.

The Nev. W. W. Champneye and the Rev. T. J.
Roma, the former the Incumbent of Whitechapsl, and the
latter of St. Peter's Church, Stepney, attended yesterday
before the Lord Mayor at the Mansion-hour acanspanied
by a large number of coalwhippers.
Mr. Champaus rid that loos friend (Mr. Bowmen) and
himself had taken great interest in the weUare of the class of
men, some of whom stood wound him. A large number of
club laztppers were at present out of work, having been &s-
-hore the coelowners dike on what be believed to
be ea entire misconception on the part of the coalowners. His
Mend and himself had attended the court for the purpose
et joining in the anvil of the men that his lordship would
kindly act as &Mirror in the settlement of the differences
that at present existed between the orlowners and the coal-
whippers.
Mr. Rowell said that the eoalwhippers, who were a hard-
working laborious class of UM, had for some years been
perfectly contented with their treatment, and that nineteen
out of twenty of them would have assented gladly to things
continuing as they had been going on. There w then
under the protection of an act, which Mr. Gladstone brought
Into the House of Commons, and which passed the legis•
later, by which an office was appointed by the government
where gangs of men were always employed, and properly
employed, they earning a subeirence, lent never more then
12a. or 14s. per week at the best times, still perfectly satr-
led. There was another system antagonistic to that by
which the public-hours were in fact the middle man, so
that the coalwhippers received their wages at the public-
house ; in other words, when their wages were paid them so
much was deducted for drink during the week, and there
were so many obvious temptations to the poor men to
drink that only a very small proportion of their earn-
ing' was carried home to their wives and children.
The government saw the evil of the system, and Mr. Glad-
stone stated before a committee of the House of Lords that
fur a long time he wee reluctant to believe that ouch a state
of thing* existed, and very unwilling to interfere in the
sltghteet degree between labour and employment. But the
case was so pressing and the immorality that emoted so very
serious to society, that a temporary bill was pared with a
view of remedying the evils complained of. When the bill
was brought up for re-enactment, Mr. Gladstone petered its
passing at the earnest desire of the coalwhippers. Mr.
Lowe, on the part of the coalownera, stated that if the bill
wow allowed to drop, they would in Frith act up to the law
es It estate('; but it was a precedent—interference between
employment and labour—which they did not with to exist.
They teetered Mr. Lowe, who reared Mr. Glicbtone and
others, that if they would allow the bill to drop the coal-
whippers should not be compelled to go to the public-houses
to receive their wages. A fortnigbt ago a poor cuelw4ii&
per had three days' employment. His week • wages .
have probably amounted to Ile. but 7s. 4d. had been de-
ducted from what was due to him 'by a publiesn at Wapping,
for drink. The men were now thrown out of the office, ult
at present evicted in the hands of the coelownera, because
they required Bd. or 9d. per ton for whipping, 6d. having
been offered them, and afterwards 7d. Now, at Gd. per ten,
a men might earn 81. or es. per weak at the next and pro-
bably not eo much. Cates of greater dinner, of utter misery
and destitution, be bed scarcely ever witnessed, although he
had laboured amongst the poor for many years. The rev.
gentleman narrated come heartrending eases of distress be
had witnessed at some of the habitations of the coelwhippers
which he had 'Anted. without] previous warning to their
occupants and proceeded to ear—There poor fellows
wanted the same rate of remuneration as the other
men. By dint of greet perseverance, and in
spite of much !intention, the coalwhippers, although
they did not succeed in the House of Commune, obtained a
committee in the House of Lords. This was the real
grievance. If they had let the coalownere do es they liked,
and allowed the old system of public-house agency to come
into fail play again, they might have Olken their chance of
employment. He hoped that when the Howe of Commons
met the old law would be re-enacted. Mr. Gladstone had
stated that if he had had the least idea that the spirit of the
present coalowners would hare beim brought to play upon
these poor men he would have stood to the last in the Hour
of Commons before he consented to the dropping of the old
bill. The men were now most willing and anxious that the
Lord Mayor should eel as rnedietor, with a view to settling
the differences that existed between the coalwhippers end the

coalowners. -
The Lord Mayor—This is not a new question with me,
became the corpora:km of London saw the difficulties that
would arise from the bee of the bill to which von have re-
ferred, We lied a great deal to do with Mr. Ciladsthne, and
were well acquainted with all the evils resulting from the
public-home argosy. The corporation used every mean, in
their power to get • re-enactment of Mr. Gledritoee's mea-
sure, for the wipers of keeping the men in a proper position
with the cookware, bet unfortunately the co/dolmen were
exceedingly power's!. they got the ear of Mr. Lowe. and the
bill was allayed to ding. The result of this has been the
greatest digress amongst these poor men, who, as under the
uld tram, which had been abolished, are now wain
paid their wweeggetee at the public-houses. If I could mediate
with the eoalewaeea I would most freely offer my humble
accrues, bet we know what a powerful body they are, and
the gaieties is whither they would accept the mediation of
ear thavideiaL
Mr. Bowesll—Aa far ite the men are concerned they are
meet willing to submit to whatever decision your lordship—
if you will be kind enough to be arbitrator—may arrive at in
to the price they ought to receive for their labour.
respect
named Foley, who acted se spokesman for
the rest, made a statement corroborative of that of Mr.
Reiman.
The Lewd Mayor—l believe there Is not a body of men
who work harder than the coalwhiwers, and they certainly
form a most respectable clam. Unfortunately you have not
oontinual work. I dare ray It is considered that 9d. a tea is a
high price. If you were in constant work it would be • dif-
Intent thing. At Pd. per ton what can a man calla a day
when he le at work
Foley—Arco ding to the present state of the market not
more than 2e. bd., and out of that he has to pay 2d. a day

Pc.itellMrd Mayor—llow many days' work does he get in a
month I'
Foley—lf he is employed ten days out of thirty, he thinks
himself well off.
The Lord Mayer—The case certainly, as prevented to me
to-day, dose MGR a very held one. lam sore the coal-
owners would not like you to be placed In a painful position.
I have only heard your case yet; bat if natters are as you
hare stated, then it loose of the harden I ever knew.
After some further divecanon, the Lord Mayor said he
would communicate to Mr. Foster, the chairman of the
Coslowners Association, the nature of the application which
the rev. gentlemen bad made on behalf of the coalwhippers,
and would let them know the Inuit. In the meantime his
lordship hat.ded them 201. from the poor-box, with the pur-
pwe of enabling them to relieve the meet urgent wee of
distrait'.
Mr. Rows& thanked the Lord Mayor for the kindness and
attention with which he had listened to his application.
The partite' then withdrew.

AIR. HENRY DRUMMOND, ON THE INDIAN

MUTINIES.

CHERTSEY, FRIDAY EVENING.
The anniversary of the Chertsey Agricultural
Association was celebrated this day—and after the ploughing
leakier at Great Grove Farm, and distribution of prizes to
daterving farm servants, the company adjourned to the
Swan Inn, where 100 gentlemen sat down. Ur. J. 1.
Spleeny, M.P., presided, supported by Mr. H. Drummond,
M.P., Mr. S. Greven, -M.P., Pr. Hsrootur, Lieu-
tenant Qwillem, Ice. The health of the county mem.
bees having been drunk. Mr. Drummond made a speech,
in which he referred to the mut4eise in India.
He believed we had every reason to feel proud
that we had such countrymen end countrywomen as we
had in India. The teen had shoat an extraordinary
degree of gallantry and bravery, and the women had
exhibited most unexampled patience and heroism. (Cheers.)
The next thing was, that while he deprecated party polities
Le could not help saying it was a matter of great satisfaction
to think that the faults which had been committed in India
resembled the faults of the whole country, and, he believed,
diet bad we been them ourselves, we should have done the
same. lie was excessively disgusted with the hue and cry
that some pepera are raising about the vengeance that should
be inflicted. He was not by any meant, one of lb.:m=l4We
sentimentalists who said there should be no punishment by
death. fir he contended most strenuously that every man
ghoull leer his life that bad committed a murder. Ho thought
we should punish %bore who were at the head of the mutiny,
but not have any of that indiscriminate vengeance that had
bees edvocated. Still he said that every leader of the mutiny
ehould be shot. (Hear.) Ile did approve of Lord Cseining's
proclamation, for he did not think it right to burn down
villages and their inhabitants indiscriminately.

TilE LAST OVEI:LAND 'Mat..—lt will be remed-
ied that the last Bombay mail arrived et Sure on the 2nd
hat., three days before the Calcutta mail. Great efforts
were made to convey this mail rapidly through Egypt, but
owing to the obstacles thrown in the way by the Egyptian
autheritiev, a considerable delay talk place. In esruteltuenee
of this delay there was only pet time to put the mail on
board her Majesty's steam-skip Caradoc, waitingat Alexan-
dria for the Statnese Priecee. The conduct of the Egyptian
authorities is to he brought to the notice of the English
government. The leek► of Egypt happened to be at Sues
*gun the Bombay toad strived there. As it happened the
Calcutta news arrived in England rei Trieste choose as soon
so the Bombay news arrived eel Cagliari, and the Calcutta
and Bombay melts reached Marseilles nearly together. A
conaidcrable saving of time might have been effected, if a
elcshler had been ready at Alexandria on the 3rd instant, to
✓um foe Malta and Ceglitui, and the Bombay men had not
been delayed in Egypt.
REFLECTING STEREOSCOPE.—A great improve
merit in the aterenecope baa teen patented by Mr. Chappuls,
of Flect.etreet. The umonvenient stooping position in which
mut had to look downwards into the ordinary stereoscope has
been much coinphined of by Ulnae who would otherwise no
soon get tired of using that pretty optical toy. The saw
onnttivance, by reflecting the light from a mirror is the lid
which is opened behind the picturee, allows the of
to be held horirontally, like an opera triage, whilat7.=
an, reflected, whether Mho euelight or lamplight, is mu& more
powerful than each so the ordinary remetruetion would admit.
The instrument is thus rendered effective, and its use maw
may and agreeable.