The Express.
London, England, 1861-12-19 00:00:00

THE IVINDHAM CASIL-FuURTH DAY.

The inquiry was continued this day by Master Warren, in
the Court of Exchequer.
The Marquis of Bristol was called and examined by Mr.
Chambers—l am the uncle of Mr. Windham. lem one of
the petitioners. I have seen him at different times ever
since he was a boy, and have known his general character.
When he was about seven or eight years old my sister, Lady
Sophia, his mother, was on a visit to me at Brighton. My
sister was educating him herself, and when she came dot a
to luncheon with hint, she came with • little whip in her
hand. That was her usual practice. I saw him only occ--
"locally both in my father's house in town and in the coup-
try during the late Mr. Windham's lifetime. Immediately
after Easter, this year, Mr. Wiodham called upon me in
London. 1 invited him to dine with me, and he came. At
my table he conducted himself with propriety. All that I
observed remarkable was that he had • foolish way of laugh-
iag. He went to sleep after dinner and snored loudly.
That was after the ladies retired. I told him to look in
occasionally at luncheon time without invitation, to give
me an opportunity of proposing anything to him, but he
never came. I saw him twice this year, riding in Rotten-
row. His •ppeatan a was remarkable and strange. It was
a mixture fun and folly. He was riding alone. There
I was an expression of pleasure on his countenance, at being
on horseback, but mixed with an expression of folly. It was
• childish expression, bordering on idiotcy.
By Mr. Kanlake—l do not remember whether when I
saw him at Brighton he was a mere child in petticoats.
I don't think the late Mr. Windham was staying in the
house at the time, but Lady Sophia and the boy resided
there. I sew him cassette, that before this year at Doe,
when I went to see my own son, but I have seen very little
of him of late years. I saw him at the funeral of his
father. I think I did not see him at all since the period of
his father's death and the present year. It was about April
or May this year that he called upon me, and I think my
invitation to him to dine with me was within two or
three days of his first visit, which was, so far as
I know, • voluntary one. There were not more
than seven or eight persons at dieser. It was
• small family party. He joined the ladies after dinner
and left rather early. He dined with me on • second
occasion, about • fortnight after, and his conduct was the
same. His articulation is very peculiar. I have observed
• peculiarity about the formation of his mouth. He
shows his gums very much. The peculiarity in his
laugh was that it was • foolish laugh. There
was 'emoting foolish in the exprearion of his
countenance when he laughed. Beyond the general
invitation I gave him to luncheon I never invited
him again to visit me, or to dine with him. I
never spoke to him afterwards. When I met him in
Rotten-row, we mutually recognised each other. I had
people with me, consequently he did not speak to nee nor I
to him. On both occasions that I met him in Rotten-row
I had ix 3ple with me. I have met him since once or twice
during the summer driving • phaeton.
By Mr. Coleridge—l first took part in the present promed-
ings in consequence of a note I received from General Wind-
ham to meet his other guardians. That was a few weeks ago.
I am not personally aoquainied with Signor Giubelei, my
sister's second husband. I have spoke to my sister once
only since her second marriage.
By Mr. Chambers—My sister was about 45 and Signor
Giubelei about 25 at the time of the marriage. After 1 had
made inquiries I concurred in this petition, but not before.
The formation of his mouth has something to do with the
peculiar expression and peculiar laugh, but he was unlike
other boys in his general demeanour, and I came to the im-
pression that he was not very wise. I have had very few
opportunities of judging of his intellect by any satisfactory
process. These proceedings have my entire sanction.
' By the jury—When my nephew dined with me he entered
into general conversation, and, as far as I know, spoke
rationally.
By the Master—There was nothing in hie conduct to
attract the attention of the servants or other persons.
Mr. Horrocks, who was not in attendance at the opening
of the court, was then called, to allow Mr. Chambers to
pursue the re-examination which was commenced on the
previous day, but there was nothing of any importance in
his further evidence. The only answer bearing further
upon the case was that he had on one occasion seen a pho-
tograph in which Mr. Windham was represented in • group
of three, the other two being railway porters. It was put
into witassee's hands by Lady Sophia. In answer to the
Muter he said that his minion would not be shaken as to
Mr. Windham's insanity if he hosed him now
converse rationally or saw him writ* a rational
letter. At Felbngg he believed Bell's Life was re.
erlarly taken in. Mr. Windham professed to take an inte-
rest in prim fights, but he really knew nothing about fight-
ing. He seemed to care more for his uncle, the general,
than anybody else, and took much interest in his uncle's
services to the Crimea, as reported in the newspapers.
To the Jury—The letter of complaint to the Vice-
Chancellor was written by Lady Sophia, not by Mr. Wind-
ham. He could not my whether Mr. Windham could write
e letter coherently.
Lord A. Hervey, examined by Mr. Chambers—l am an
uncle of Mr. Windham's and was one of his guardians,
having been appointed hi 1858, shortly after his mother's
second marriage. I have known him from his birth. Before
he went to Eton, one day when at luncheon at the
late Lord Bristol's, in St. James's-square, while
Lady A. Hervey was present, he put his hand in a tart,
without knife, fork, or spoon, and pulled out era at, fruit,
and all together. Lady Alfred remonstrated with him, and
told him that he should not have any tart. Then he
seised a large carving.knife, and rushed at her with it. Pro-
videntially I came into the room as she was retreating from
him and he following her. I bit himon the leg with a hearth-
broom, when he dropped the knife, began yelling, and ran
out of room. Lady Alfred was extremely alarmed. I
was present at the funeral of his father. I bad to com-
plain to him in consequence of eccentricity of conduct,
which was reported to me by the servants ; that
hews, showing all the tenants into the room where the coffin
was, and making himself very conspicuous. I thought his
conduct at church very peculiar. He appeared extremely
overcome with grief—he sobbed and cried very loudly, but
appeared to be looking about him all the time, and not
trying to hide hie face. He was then about 14.
He was allowed money front time to time—about 51. a
month—bat we found that his 51. would be spent in the
first day or so, and he never could give any account as to
how he had spent it. He seemed wholly uncoaacions of
the value or use of money. He was staying with my
father in tit. James's-square in 1858. He conducted
himself at dinner with perfect propriety, so much so that
it gave me great hopes that he was improving. When we
left the dining-room he disappeared instead of coming into
the drawingroom. Where he went to I could not discover
for 2or 3 days, or what he had been doing. Oo the third
day I went tato the diningroom, and there found him with
my father's servants with his jacket off and his shirt
sleeves tucked up, helping to clear away the dinner
things. I called him out of the roo-u and was
angry with him, but he did not seem to be
aware of the impropriety. From his earliest years
he never told the truth, and I could never be-
lieve what he said. He would tell untruths without an
object. Even up to a late period he would cry for
very slight muses. At Torquay when he was It,
he cried because he was going to be vacci-
nated • second time, and it was only by threats that
we could get hint to submit to the operation. He cried too
when the Vice-Chancellor wished him to go abroad in 1858.
He would cry like a boy of five or six, and would wipe his
eyes, not with a handkerchief but with the back of hand.
He would laugh often without apparent cause. It
was always • silly foolish laugh. He allowed the
saliva to drop from his mouth when he was excited. He
WAS amenable to no influence but that of fear. He was
generally rational in his conversation ; with one or two
exceptions always No. He was so rational on env
mon subjects that those who did not know him
would not suppose that there was anything wrong
in his mind. He could write a letter rationally. I seer
saw an irrelevant one front him—th it is. a letter that would
show there was anything wrong iu his intellect. No one
would consider there was anything wrong with him by Lis
conversation during two or three hours unless they knew
something of his history. When we wanted him to goabreed
be believed that General Windham was urging the Vice-
Chancellor to send him abroad, when he might be got rid of
by poison, or some other means, in order that his uncle. the
general, might come into the property. I endeavoured to
disabuse his mind of the idea, hut it hail gat so stroolf
a hold upon him that I made no impression. That was one
of the occasions when he cried. He was always on his best
behaviour with me, for I was strict with him, and he was
afraidof me. Since I became his guardian in 18581 have formed
the opinion that lie is totally intuit, side of taking care of his
property, and his general habits are such that mien' he is
plaited under restraint Ins life will be shortened.

Cross-exandoed by Mr. Kerslake—When I give that (pi.
Moe I =speaking from what 1 have heard, out what I Isms
seen. and it is right I should say that my opinion is re/
much formed by what I have seen in the affidavits.
and especially that of Dr. Dalrymple. Ido not think that
every person who has a habit tending to shorten life should
be put under restraint. Ido not think he could tall ra•
tionally for two or three hours, except upon carnal sub'
iects, or the weather or family smitten. 1 have not
identified myself with my nephew in hie amusements sad
pursuita.
[The case was proceeding when our report left.)

Twa WILATILIA ne CANADA.—As doubts exist re•
sporting the transports now on their way and about sailitg
for the St. Lawrence being able to reach Riviera du Log
or Bic Harbour on account of the late period of the yrari
we are happy in being ahle to state that st the data of the
last &deices, viz., the 3"1 inst., the season in Canada
wee notionally mild, so much so that the steamers ply"f
between Quebec and Montreal, which usually go lOW
winter quarters about the middle of November, were ,t!,
running, and with army appeanime of a fortnight,
further occupation. We learn also that the ditches were
not yet sure sign that more mild weathe.,
to take place before the winter fairly set in. .%"e 're
aware that the navigation has been stopped in the
month of Deoember in &couple of days byan uoustuillyrevere
frost, but those who pretend to be well nomainttd with the
meteorology of Canada sae that, judging from appearthe*
there was every primped Of a very open December. Thefes
boat of the Grand Truk Railway was plying on the ille_ee
may of 1858 between Montreal and Longuidul. the era
then being clear of ice to the ocean ; and if the pree."
be anything like that eeesoe, se we believe it will tart
out to be, the Melbourne, Pemia, Australast,n, Ad.the'
and Panama will experience no difficulty is harbouneii2e
Bic any time before the 15th of the coaling month.-1*
Carlos/tau Nees.