The Express.
London, England, 1850-04-27 00:00:00

NORTH AMERICAN COLONIES.

Mr. ROisiVelesve Wolin that ;ienl;l;ns •up the re
port of the Australian Colonies Bill 'he should move so to
extend the provisions of the bill that the colonies of British
North Astoria might be permitted to constitute themselves
isle a general federal association.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.

It was ei;;;Z:n7ltrrTi;dtiat tit;iiossitatiti rising do
adjoarn to Monday nest.
WOODS AND FORESTS.

Lord DI.. liiCAN asked the adds lord when it was hk
intention to proceed with the Woods and Forests Bill.
Lod J. RUSSELL could sot name a d►y, but there was
a responsible monster at the head of the board.

LECTURES AT THE UNIVERSITIES.

Lard J. RUSSELL begged the indulgence of the house
whilst he made • statement u to Sir James Stephen, the
Professor of Modern History in the University of Cambridge.
What he said the other night as to the lectures in the Mai.
amity of Cambridge wee, that having recommended to the
crown • Prstessor of Modern History for the Universities of
Oxford and Cambridge, he had been naturally anxious to
know in what manner those professors were received in their
Calamities, and how they were enabled to discharge the
Important duties which belonged to the professorship of
modern history. In the course of last autumn having met
Sir Jame,. Stephen, he put a question to him as
to the time he could devote to the delivery of
letters at Cambridge. He had stated, the house would
recollect, that be could only give one lec' ure in the came
of the week, either of It hour or 2 hours duration. Sir Jas.
Stephen said he did rot remember any con vitiation that took
piece, bat the sternest he might have made might have been
this, that he was to deliver every academical year, as many
lectures as there were weeks in the peer. Such • statement
was strictly correct. The academical year embraced 26
seeks, and it was provided that any course of lectures n-
weird as the condition of a prolate/Ws csflkate be not
Tess than 20, nor more than 25 lectures. It appeared that
be (Lord J. Russell) was mistaken in supposing that Sir
James Stephea could not give more than one lecture in
ene week, but, according to his owee statement he consi-
dered bluetit restricted not to give more than 25 ; and the
mks required, as the audition of the professor's certificate,
that he wee not to give more than 26. That would come to one
lecture in a week en an avenge, in the course of the aca-
demie year. He likewise stated that having been to the
Vies Climaceller, he remarked that the laws is question did
not prevent the lecturer giving r many lectures as he
pleased. They only exempted the pupils from the obliga-
tion of attending more than 25. It was right that he
should state that this conversation took place in the course
of the autumn, and an inference bad been drawn, very
vidairly, that be had bee.making some complaint as to the
reetrietioa ef time.
Mr. GOULBURN rid that some limit must be imposed
ascertain whether a sag had sullitiently complied with
the retarder given by the professor to entitle him to •
proletariat eertittem, sad the university had laid down the
rule that • man was sot obliged to have attended mere than
26 times. It was a different quake& what camber Ito might
Moor to attend.

DISTRESSED UNION ADVANCES AND REPAY-
MEN? OF ADVANCES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the modem that the Speaker do now leave the chair,
toe the tootle going lute committee on this bill,
Col. SIBTHORP rose to move that the house do re-
solve into the said 006111111 WIS upon this day six months.
He wee understood to attribute the nemeity for the ad-
vances to the seismaaagenient of the (overuses': he felt
it to be his duty to oppose any further grant. He toiled
that the total amount of rants of the lea 10 years was
12,037,4324 13.. 2d. ; the loans were 8,751,2551. 17s.
The loam !sight be 'smoldered as granted. There was no
ammo. Is.. the sable lard who proposed to grant
300,000 L, that he would me get more. That was a very
important plat, sad be thought they shoald know
what they were likely to have before they voted amy Ran.
The hew. and gallant massaher proceeded, bet km the soils
meted by twaverratio• nd lewd osier of " Divide, divide,"
N was almost impassible to catch a syllable of what he said.
we oaderwood his, however, to ask the right has. geode-
mss the Chancellor of the Exchequer If he sealii assets the
lease that there would be no further solicitation on the part
of the Irish landlords for loam. It was almost impossible to
tell where this system of leading would end, or bow they
could be repaid.
The "swim being esteudea,
Mr. HERBERT said that he always found that whiniest
propositions of that kind were 'Me, observation were sure
to fell from honourable mitlemes which were Melly at va-
riance with feels to which they refuted. Hs thought that
some lii h member should take ties lest opportunity of
making a few obematiesseas the subject of Irish leans and
gram, is order to show the fallacy of the statements which
fall grim English gentlemen in that house. Whoa English
members toot the opportunity of snaking observations
which were poreceally tamiltine to Irish members, and arm
from an utter igsewasee of the facts, he thought it time that
the setts+ should be more thoroughly sifted and the truth
of the ease discovered. He would bring forward returns
which had beta produced in conformity with a motion of the
hon. member for Glasgow (Mr. Megrogor), and he found by
them returns that from the year 1817 when the Elebtquets
ewers eon., lideted to 1845, the total amount of loans amounted
to 11.328,5901. Out of that sum 8,483,0001. was paid back—
( ch.eri)—esaviag a balanee due at that time of 2,843,6961.,
which was see • very Urge sum. A great part, however,
of that was no imaimiests which were not yet minsidered to
be due. The hew. ratleznan then showed that, notwith-
mending the Mimed taxatikm, and the missy and distress
Mist existed throughout Ireland, the mast depressed counties
of which he ,00k to be Mayo and Kerry, the plass which be
represented had lidd back a large amount Of the loam
that had bems advaneed to it. He alp pro-
duced the evidence of Sir J. Burgoyne, when ve-
racity could not be questinned, to show that the
ROT rament had gained considerable sums by loans to
Ireland. Sir J Bermes bad proved in hue evideaes that
the government bad actually gained 60,9861. on Exchequer
Mlle 'matted to Ireland. He wished, in reference to a state-
ment that he was about to make concerning Irish railways,
to say that he regretted that the project of Lord George
Bentisck bed not been carried out. He had the authority
of Sir J. B 'lgor,* in stating that out of the loan advaaeed to
the )(Motown Railway Company, which amounted to
157,00C1 , 99,5961 had ben paid back. ' (Hear' hear.)
Mr. F. FRENCH believed the fact to be, that the km.
and gallant member did not understand the oats," of the
bill before the house. It was intended to bs of advan-
tage to the grand jaries, and yet every ohs of those
bodies had expressed themselves against the Olsen
whose falsify It was toteoded to pay. They
protested egaieot the labour rate, as calculated
to demoralise the people, and against being celled upon to
tipsy sums gives to relieve immediate starvation, the more
ospecial:y mot the letterset above fem half went loth' actual
relief of the people. Oi:e of the immediate objects of the bill
was to pay the salaries of the vies-guardians, and he would i
sok the now to consider whether these Marks could be i
is rip levied oaths unions. In ctadesion, he 'appended the

tai Oda Megan !mimed assessery by the reseal peeks
N asks.
Mr. IL M. FOX mos to eimpleis of a Teresa white bad
is.. teat la by Me peer law wimmaselleasts, with refereme
Ss a salsa with whim& be wee seaosiOd. All he bed to say
of that Mars wee, that it we a emplin "W m4eahaladat
to mid, the *feet Owlish woe to maim amoeba qmaru de-
faulters ; sad Mee* lb* innrdisi paanfamonA too sow I
eabismers refund ea smite the pow alterallea. Tie fon
was, that the essmaimiesen caste esasetion the money se
napaid relief advances. sad spprepriating it to the eedlerue
peer law perpona. He sordidly appeal,. dof the bill, which
bad hem seaserred is a fair sad liberal spirit, sad
while it did ao more Mae Jostles, be maid missy fell sItZ
Kr. P. BCROPE hoped tie boom would remember that
ois=rdisee bed ally be appointed whim the eleeMd
g had failed so prism their duty, sad to Om
relief ems whoa the lime of the poor had boa is deeper
hem the IMeasity of the maim. Ile lass from wishiai this
Mil dolionva, he regretted that it hal beta so loos del iyed ;
saw Male time be mast protest against the manner in
whisk the messy hod bees expladed laths distressed mime.
The poem seem would have bees to ham mail* the
*aims emit sapperdag by employian die poor la preaMblo
wear, but the plan which bed bees punned was te keep
Ibsen b kilsosse, or, if employed at all, employed only Is
Mai of a perfectly aspirodoetive and mass. ohmmeter.
Deslas the time h• was ia Ireland he bad *sea grass greW-
tz. tie beeps of stones, sad in was I illitSl3o.ll mope of
IS the stones. which those who readmil relief had
Millpirla in brooking. Barely that was sot a seise ee
seedble appropriation of public money. (Cries of " Divide"
and " Qmetina.") The question was—shoeld they vote
101$" es pa lb. debts of certain distressed 111111J01, sad
=7 mar yaws th
erepayment of lid mem
adamant And dm was a quo sties mrsigas
*sly. undmos esndarallen. objese was ail se mese
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or dahq the motion for going into viatmittee, but to are
apes tY house tbat befogs woe* money wu expended they
bed better decide upon the mode in which it should bs op
plied, and do se in time. (The hon. gentleman concluded
amid loud tries for a division.).

Colonel DUNNE wee et opines that this grant was end=
in tossequenes el the ssal-administration of UM poor law in
Inland. In his opinion the cause of the distress which pre-
vailed in tinny of those anions was entirely owing to the
mal.administration of the law by the government oaken.
The house then divided :
Par the motion 132
For the amendment l2-120
The house then went into committee on the bill.

On clause I bring prorated,
Col. DUNNE susgested that aßer the word onions,"
the words '• electoral divisions within those unions " be in-
serted.

--ft; CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed
that the debt was a debt due by the naive.
Mr. P. SCROPE said that the total amount of debts due
by cataract was 513.0001. It was then proposed to lend
300,0001, and he was desirous of knowing to what ratieu-
lar unions this run was to be lent ?

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
he should sot like to be called upon to exercise the power to
which the how. gentleman bad adverted. He was happy to
state that the debt of 613 00W , owing by Ireland, bad been
reduced to 300,0001. The lean was to be app3ed to 30
unions.

After a few words front Mr. R. M. Fox and Mr. Moir-
SZLL,
Mr. STAFFORD observed that the bill would plain the
rateable property la Inland in the hands of Sir Charles
Tramllyan.
The clams was then agreed to.
Oa dame 2 being proposed,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER pee a
detailed statement of the sums advanced and repaid, from
width it appeared that the Nampa owing was 4,515,0001.
The flaasewan agreed to.

Oa ammo 3 beiii proposed,
Lord NAAS raid that 'most extraordinary and arbitrary
power waa given to this Treasury by this dame. The real
question was, as to the time for the repayment of the ad.
venom.

--After much conversation,
Mr. CLEMENTS (acting upon a suggestion made by
Lord Barnard) moved an amendment, the effect of which
would be to euberitate the period of 40 ye.re at least for the
discretionary powers given by the clause to the commis-
donors to cheeps an annuity or other equivalent on the
Pelectoral division or union within that period—giving, in
, fact 40 years' credit instead of Weser periods.
I The gallery was cleared for a division on this amendment,
bat after the lapse of about ten minutes, strangers were re-
admitted, no division haring takes place. Aloe some fur.
thee discussion,
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the bill had been introduced
aa a boon, but boa. gentlemen seemed desirous of making it
appear that it would be an injury. Re hoped, if they did
nos feel so, that they would not unnecies-rily obstruct its

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progress.
Mr. ROCHE said it had been geaerally unientood in
Ireland, when the bill was introduced, that full f.rty years'
credit would be given. That mused much satisfaction, hat
he feared the discussion of that evening would tend mate-
rially to diminish the moral effect which such an expectation
wee calculated to produce. It now appeared that government
would require repayment at an earlier period. If the
amendment was not carried Ireland would be greatly
disappointed.
The committee then divided—
For the amendment 3l
Against it
The clause was then agreed to.
Clauses 5 and 6 were agreed to with some verbal amend-
ments.

Os clause 7. whieh provides that the Treasury 'nay make
additions to advances under this bill and future workhouse
loauti
_ . .

Mr. MONSELL said many of the unions were without
any workhouses at all, w►ieh wee a great evil, and he s fished
to know what was doing with regard to the erection of
workhouse.

A. ST AFFORD remarked that groat dissatisfaction
had been caused by altering the boundaries of unions.
CA. DUNNE said gnat complaints had been made in
districts which had belonged to ono union and been trans
ferred to another at having been charged to the rates in
both unions.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER agreed with
his hon. friend the member for Limerick that nothing was
so essential as the erection of workbouees in all unions. He
mild not give him any resent information, as he bad not been
able to keep up with what was going on, but last year he pro.
vided the amount that the commis' ont r stated would be re-
quired for this purpose up to the 30th March. It was for
the commissioner to determine what was wanted, and all he
had to do was to provide the money. With regard to the
gatetios of the hos. gentleman opposite (Mr. Stafford) it
was set n Treasury matter. The division of the unions was
ha to the immingamiers. With regard to the observation

of the hon. member kr Portarlingtro, that certain lands had
been subject to the rates of two unions, he imagined that
must have been for the extinction of the debt., to a portion of
which such lands were liable along with other portions of the
anion to which they had belonged.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the bill
was ordered to be reported.
The bout. then resumed.
REPAIR OF THE RING'S ROAD. PIMLICO.
Oa the order of the day for going into committee of
supply,
Sir J. PAKINOTON called the attention of the gottam
meet to the controversy that had been waged between the
Marquis of Westminster and the ratepayers of Chelsea.
respecting the expenses of making and maintaining the
King's-road, in that parish. At considerable length, and
despite of an appeal from Mr. C. AIniTZT, whose own
motion was kept in waiting, the hoe. baronet contended for
the propriety of Mitigating the question to a court of law.
The ATTORNEY OENERAL explained that both the
Marquis of Westminster and the trustees of the parish high.
ways were equally in fault in allowing the road in question
to remain in a state of neglect; but added many arguments
to show that the ease wee not one in which the crown could
properly appear as promoter.
Lord CAAITLERZAOH and Mr. MARTIN' pleaded In the cue
ratepayers of the district, and Lord °nose-axon as the
represontatin of the Marquis of Westminster.
Lord C HAMILTON wished to have the question tried
before a judicial tribunal.
The subject then dropped.

MARINE ASSURANCE STAMPS.
Mr. lIIGREOOR moved that, in consideration of the
remit changes in the navigation laws, and consivently with
the state of the revenue, it is expedient the stamps ea
omens assurances, bills of lading, charter par lea, and other
shipping documents, shall be abolished. The hon. gentle-
I man accompanied big motion with a few (enervation,
which, owing to the noise which prevailed In the hew%
were not heard in the gallery.
Lord J. MANNERS eueaded the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he
meet give the same answer to this motion which • few
sights ago he gave to the motion for the reduction
of the duty on paper. He had already stated
the amount of ftzstion which he thought it would
be advteable to make, and ha could not uncut to
reduce the revenue still lower. But the hon. gentleinan,
with a jest regard for the public revenue, was not, he
&Hayed, prepared to urge any reduction of duties which
would effect that surplus which the best interests of the
eolantry required to be maintained. With regard to any
faint* reduction of taxation, he thought it would be unwise
to pledge themselves m to the taxa to be remitted. (Hear )
He would not say a word on the subject of the tax, any
more than he did on the other breathes of taxation on which
he had been urged to make • reduction ; because he con.
esived it would be unfair that his opinion should be open to
any but the but considered's'. the subject. (Hear, near.)
Therefore he hoped the bowie would join with him is nega-
tiving the motion ; and he keyed hie hoe. friend would see
the neceendey of not prude* It tea division, but permit the
house to proceed with the Iseminess of supply.
Lord JOHN MANNERS said the right hon. gentleman,
the Chancellor of the Examiner, had not advanced a single
areament is favour of the tax, objectionable u it was ; and
he therekee galled upon the hones to support the motion of
the hoe. member for Glasgow.
Ald. THOMPSON would have preferred that his hon.
Mead had not brought forward his motion until age, the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had fully dec'ered his inten-
tions, which, he believed, would be in the e,une of the
ensuing week. However, be should observe that manes
insurance societies with jars' espial, and conducted on the
most honourable principTees- were established in *vary pore
where no dory prevailed, ahel a
town of the United States,
like system was in operation at Hamburg. (Hear, hear.)
It was the manifest interest, nu only of ahipvweere, but also
of shippers of goods, to effect insurances hi these countries;
and to his own knowledge they did so to a groat •Kteat.
(lieu, bear.) For hi; own put, he (Aid. To m?soe) .•
prepared to remove that incubus on the trade and 2111144.