The Express.
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r did regard with dread sad appithenniva seer the nion of
missionary enterprise with the power of the government.
Ile we. much misinformed it the government had Lot
furnished ground fur suspicion in r.bitien In native
education • but there hid been two acts pa-sed
within these few 'wire by the Legible :ire Coen. il of
India which had greatly disquieted :Le relleiotie mit.l in
Bindoem. One enacted that no man should lose his pro-
perty on account of changing his religion; the other:per-
milted a IMMO* Wide", to marry •re and husbend. Both
these nets bed spread the greatest alarm end disturbance
among the Wadies. Mr Di-raeli then adverted to the
"startling erect" of the annexation of Oude. the come
queues of which, he mid, was to ins' leo the Mahommedan
princes with apprehenvion, and to unite them in a common
cause with the liindoos. He had Leen informed, hesidrn,
that in our Bengal regiments there were no fewer than
70,000 natives of Oude, who, in returning to their villages,
would find them in the posmesi,n of the Eest India
Cumpsny, and those who were owner, of land would
Le subject to the hard and severe ayatem of ter Lind
revenue. it was after thin scent that the circulation
of aynibels in the forme of cakes and loan flowers
throughout the Bengt' saucy pcived the existence of a gene-
ral conspiracy. Ile thought e. was impossible that the In-
dian government could have been ignorant that the Bengal

troops were in a elate of chronic iusutordination, end it was I
their duty aolemrdy to impress upon rile $(074 rnment at home,
and they must have done so, that the time fold roma when
they must to-riovely consider the state of our Indian anat..
The gresaing of oho cartridges Mr. Diemen dbonisscd with
the remark that nobody believed that to have been the real
mice of the outbreak. In the last place be proivotled to in-
quire, ramming that the views he had developed were cols
net, what were the measures which the government ought
eta adopt. Alma/ enternancy ? Regarding the revolt as
national one, MI itary antra were not sunk:eat, and the
measures of the government wore inedequille ; there chould
be an expedition up the Indus; our for bin India should be
doubled. But, further, " You ought to have a
royal commission sent by the Queen to audio hot e? intely to
inquire into the grievances of the voriou^ Looses of the people
there ; and you ought to io'ue a royal pro Carnation to the
people of India that the Queen of England and of India is
not a sovereign who will coutittnanes the violation of trea-
ties, that she is not a sovereign who will disturb the relation.
of property. but that she is • sovereign who will respect
their law., their uaagt., and above all there religion. (Hear.
bear.) Du thre, and do it in • mode—not in s corner—lnd
in a mode and manner that will attract indieidnel attention
and excite • general hope throughout Hindostan, and yet.
will effect math more towards trsuquillising India than all
your Beets and armies will accomplish. but you most mud
oat competent nun—men of high scam and ability who
are entitled to such an of who should appear
in the Queen's name, and with the Queen's authority ; and
if that takes place simulteneou.ly with the arrival of your
troops, your military advatiee will be prothabie, and 1
believe your ultimate sorrel. will be teemed. (Hear,
hear.) No one Le more oensible than lam that 1 have
moat imperfectly treated the ease. It may Iro naked why,
with this conviction, I merely propose a motion for pepent
With the view. of the government and those I express so con-
trary, it may be asked of me, "why don't vett assert your nom
opinion in a resolution, and call on parliament to minarets
it r (Ileac, from Mr. Roebuck.) I will date why. 1 thought,
and still think it of the greatest importance in this emergency,
that the parliament of England should not shrink (run entering
into a duicurwien of the question. It appears to me if we Lad
return(l to our counties to silence upon this subject we should
have &Wielded our function., and have lest our t:lsim to the
confidence of the people. (Ilear Lear.) It is at this lalogleCt
that we, who are the spivial concert of the nation, sheltie
Nand forward and be the guide and guardians of the pee •
ple of thiscountry. (lleer' hear.) The opinion of the go-
vernment on this subject has not been expressed in so
derided a manner, or adopted so long, that I am afraid
that their minds will not rive to the occasion and
embrace a more eigormo and • larger policy—l cannot re-
nounce the hope that even in the discussion to-night, when
ethers shall have addressed them more worthy of their atten-
tion than I mu—that we may hove from them a declaration
that will carry with it some hope and confidence. If they
take that tonne, see in what position we should be placed.
4 united parliament and a strong government are the two

circumstances moat neceseary fern:lCera in a difficulty like
the present. It Is that consideration that influences ray
mind. It is not that I rayeelt; on this or any other eubjee:
on which I recommend it policy, will thrink frau responsi-
bility. But I with to show to Europe and to Ana
that it is net the desire of the British psrlwment to over-
throw a ministry, but to save an empire. (Hear, heir.) I
hope the divestment will elieit a declaration on the part of the
government of a course of polio,' such aa I have ventured to
indicate, and that the only duty of the House of Comment
will be to support it with cordial eincerity. (Hear, hear.)
If they do not take that course—if from their neglect of
taking an adequate course, and if in consequence of their
adopting insufficient means, a public disaster should occur,
tbeLwill be deeply reeponeible. Wo shall meet again, and
rer &a government ner than
this
ouse t
their duty and the the country ego "
suffers.
from that neglect, I for one will not shrink from reopen-
eiNlity— I will appeal, then, with confidence to an indig-
nant people and a determined perlientent, and mak them t )
unite their energies to save an endangered empire. (Cheers.)
He begged to move fur copy of any minute or despatch ad-
dressed to the Governor-General of India by his /excellency
the Commander-in-Chief, the late Mejor-General die met.
G. Anson, dated on or about March, 1856, relative to the
state of the Bengal army; dion, for copy of a report on the
organisation of the Bengal army, drawn up by the late
Lieutenant• General Sir Charles Napier, and transmitted to
his Grace the Duke of Wellington, K.G.
Mr. V. SMITH could not help asking what was the nee
of Mr. Disraeli'. three hewed oration, and whether there wee
not very great mischief in bringing forward this subject
the meaner he had done? He had represented the mutiny as a
national revolt, but be had adduced no evidence to show that
it was owing to national discontent. No native prince bad
been concerned in it, and there wan not a shadow of evidence
of say oommirney among the native prineen. The erects
penned by Lord Delhousie in regard to adoption might be
*lt or wrong, and before that question was decided the law
et aracceation in each state must be inquired into; but this
'abject had no cennexion whatever with the revolt. With
r geed to the disturbance of property there had been a com-
munism to inquire into enam lands, acme of which had been
acquired by fraud sod corruption, and this may have crested a
geed deal of discontent among certain el :saes. The inter-
heence with religion was a matter of immense delicacy; and
be had no hesitation in saying that it would be tho beat policy
at once to interfere end prevent the exercise of tniesimary
Nal by our (evil and military servants. lie coincided with
Mr. Disraeli entirely in thinking interference with the red,
gine% of the mallet highly objectionable. On the subject of
annexation, he wasi as enemy to systematic 'emery ion; but
the question of Oude was tide: the subjects of Oude were
kept in subjection by our force, and no made outeelvea re-
sponsible for everything the King did. Lord Dalhousie,
therefore, thought it better to annex the territory, which
wee done with the least possible injury to the parties con-
cerned. The attempt to connect this ante %are ei with the
mutiny had completely failed. He denied that the go-
vernment had received any warning of the mutiny, or
that there was the elightest indication of any disaffection
among the native troops. If it was a military mutiny,
it woe impossible to suppose there had not teem some Tab°
management in the army. At Meerut three was no defici-
ency of European trier, and the first intelligence that are
tired convinced him that there were a sufficient number to
quell any mutiny, and ho was surprised at whet had occurred
afterwards. Wrint occurred at Meerut N1.1...1 this. Eighty-
five men were condemned for disobey ins order., and were
manacled in the presence of their comrades. Now if
any suspicion had been entertained that those um-
ri&e would not submit to such a thing there ought
to hare been a sufficient number of European troops to
compel them, or the step ought not to bare been taken. Ho
considered it altogether unaccountable that there bad been no
pursuit of three teen over a line of road 35 miles in extrxt
and n level as the floor on which he was them standing. lie
could not help saying that he believed there must Lye been
sense mismanagement is the a ffoir. (Hear, hear.) One of
se

Sir Principal emirs iSestiel for luutin'y wee 'lthe;itik-
drams' of officers for el and staff purpose.. That system
had been rime on for 60 ears;y but last year, in order to
obviate the difficulty, an additional captain had been sent out
teach regiment. Many officers contended that the eysteiii
which hart been so long in existence was perfectly defec-
ate, and that the parties thus .loru hel acquired a general
knowledge which made them more useful. Besides, the
presence of officers iu great nunkbers wo not &Imre con.
eidered en advant•ge. It was not to the number of (Miners
withdrawn that the evil was to be attributed. He believed
that the natives were not so much impressed with the
ides that we wanted to Christianise them as to de-narionitline
and de-Indianise them. The position of parties had very much
changed. Hohad Leon informedthat of late yearstherehad been
a greet mermen between the officers and the men, that the
tone of some of the officm at mess woo contemptuous., sad
that they sometimes epoke k if the sepoya as " niggree."
(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) lie woe Oa to find that on a
roma occasion the chairman of the East India C01111:40 V
had strongly impressed this point open the minds of the
young men whom he was addressing. There wee another
matter which he had been informal did not a&ct the soldiers
at the time—he meant the alteration of enlistment in the
Bengal army. The alteration hai been made in the Bombt.y
and Madras armies, and ho believed that no remniuktramw
had been made against it in the Bengal army. The right
hon. gentlemen had stated that Lord Canning bad given
offence by objecting to certain proonseions. It any offence
had been given Lord Canning had lately amply cnuiperated
for it by slating his determination not to allow the process
aion 11 of the natives to be interfered with, and he had put his
veto on an act relating to the suburban police, whielk would
have interfered with such pronessions. That was a step
which nkfleeted the highest credit on the noble lord. (Hear,
hear.) Under the art of 1863 • new legislative council bed
born established, which was endowed with power. which did
not exist before. That body had brought forward ukelostrce
for the purpore of promoting European and English
objects without any reference to the natives, and he trusted
that what bad taken place would be a wars* to them not

to meddle with the religion of the people. The right hon.
an bad alluded to the question of education in India.
re4rTitody in than country thought it would be a great thing
to educate tit', waives; bat it ors not at all surprising tipt
the natives look. II upon the step faith suspicion, no en inn
ration of cusifune. 'rho alterations allied) bad been
effected had, no doubt, greatly agitated melee miode, end the
tight hon. genii. man bad not panted out any mode of alley-
lag that agitation. The right hon. gentleman wo aid not re-
commend the rmestabliahment of ea rigu 01, the procet4on of
Juggernaut, and many other sup ratitiona which Led Leen
put an mil to It was itapoasible to stop, but it sae iuses-
tam to prs cad v Ith caution and Johlesation. Ile now
name to the most important pert of the. question, the remedies
auggested by the tight bon. gentleman. Tho right km.
gentleman fail, "You bare not taken cam to mend out
troops—you have not removed IL., exiating grievances—yon
have not put out the ere." Now, the kmvornineut had sent
out sa many, or more troop than were naked for by the Go-
vornor-Cionend ; and tbo right hon. gentleman made a slight
mistake in his calculation when lie withdrew the reliefs,
for those who moire other circumstances would here ken

relieved meld retrain, end, nmkingereryallowance, the actual
number rent out would be 20,000 then—(hear)--and be had
no doubt as they arrived portion after pillion, their appear-
ance would inaphe greet confide:we in the atm try. lu ludis
the effect produced by European treys upon the Orientals
was something tibia, could hardly c &elated, and a Eu-
ropean general might often set aside all notions of strategy
and ordinary tautly warfare, and plunge into hazards which
he would nut think it safe to run against other commies. Al-
iment every y„reat battle in India bed been gained by a Wind-
IVI of nen, and is l'ersia an army of 7,000 fled before 40 of
our troops. (" liter, hear," nod lauy,hice) The right hon.
gentleman had recommended the pending out of a royal com-
mission, the shoat of which would be to supereedo the
Governor-Oener.d. Now that would be a very bed begin-
ning. It would be a bed thing to dislodge and waive to em-
barrass any governor in whorl, trust wee placed. Now he
did not believe any non could be more woiouily trusted than
Lord Canning. He had not committed a single mistake, and
where wheys had made mietakes he bad bed tbu vigour to
correct them. Every art whialt he bad perfornwl dieplayed
judgment ned viyour, and to send out a Colllll4oloft
to supersede rich a Inn would be a molt fetal
error. It would be untie not only towards hits
but towards the public. l'he government had lb -mad it
desirable to ask the Governor-Onneral whether h.. wiehed •
commission to be appointed, atatiug that if he a com-
mittee of military or other essistante they should ho sent out
immediately. (Hear, hear.) Ho would hem rewind the boum
that in epe&king or the Queen's troop, the right lien. gentle-
man omitted to n.. 1 ire the fact that two regiments lied been
stopped on their way to China, that 600 min had been
ordered from Cey Lin, and two re ' ..imente front the Cape. With
regard to • commission he thought it might be of great
utility if issuc,i with the ronsynt of the Govereor-Oeueral.
The matters for ' •

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dies not far our of our reach. The riglit gentleman said
that the Queen'e name ought to he demoted with everything
done in India, noel that the pr Ado might to he seemed that
the Queen, whilst putting dent. the mutiny, wroth! at the
same time exteciee merry unit humanity. '1 he people of
India would trot doubt that fad for a single moment, whether
the Queen's tamer was wed or nut. (Hear, boor.) But the
right hon. gentleman ought ter reinembe in whose bands the
government of India had been pined by Parlinmeut. Par-
liament had placed it in the hairdo oftbe East India Cowpony,
controlled by the mown. That manure wan insunged
by the legislature deliberately en • ,amore of caution. It
any improvement was regainel in India what weir the usual
°owe° I It woo first coulasunicated to the Prestdoc of the
Presidency, and by him to the Governor-General. Teen the
Governor-General sent it to the Legiabitive Counol, which
required a coneiderable time for delibundisn. The next step
was to refer it to the Collet of Directors, who bed too read all
the papers. Then it wr at to the Board of Control, where
all the papers had to be mad again. (Laughter.) That was
' the constitution which parliament had provided for India.
All these transactions rowed great delay, but that wad •
question for atcther time. (Hear, hear.) In referring to
the Beard of Control au eminent authority bad stated his
belief that throughout all India there was a thorough dis-
trust of the gentleman who new occupied the poaitian of
President of dud Board. (Laughter.) That was the opinion
of a nobleman whore authority on Indian matters woe joatly
appreciated. That noble lord was, however, in the habit of
IMlllte 101 l the dyspeptic grotto-men who came from India—
(aughter)—and it was not surprieing that many of them
should form a somewhat unfavourable opinion of the
man whose duty it was frequently to retiree their
applicatioes. But softie from entering into any dispute with
the nnble lord, se long as he continued to give his advice and
his admirable sugoestions for the benefit of our indian em-
pire, be would 'ten to him with the greatest deference and
respn.t. and receive with good humour any comments which
he might be inclined to make. (Hear, hear.) If a COEll•
wissien ehouhl issue there were many important questions
wiskili would come under ire consideration. Fist, there
would be the perednent eetabliehment of the Queen's troops.
The Governor-General bed tent home a deeper eh eqaesting
that three Elmore= re,,eimente might be added instead of
the six which had reroltel. The government were of opinion
that the dellei:n.y must he eupplied by the Queen's troop,.
(Hear.) Thee crone the quest Oru, were the native regiments
to be abandoned He believed it would be impresario to
govern India without native troop.. In that country there
vas an army of 300,000 men. It would be quite impoesible
to send any ouch number from this country. The rcorgiuri-
&Winn of the Indian troops must be attended to. That
brought him to the consideration of the question Low are
they remooesel P The army was composed of high
dare iwipe, and particularly of brahruhur, whn, as belonging
to the prieetbood, were • very objectionable body of men.
Sir Churls, Napier had preposeel tbe enlienuent of various
classes in the same togiment—for instance Sikhs, 'Undoes of
the high and the low clearer, and of no close, at all. Three
were all tniestiens which required great consideration,
and tight to be immediately attended to, frr the
purpose of effseitug en improvement in the Betigol army.
At this time the Ltinnbay and Madras armies were perfectly
sound end stench, and the men of those armies took their
wives and &milieu with them into lino; but high claw
does would not do so. If they employed n lower caste fee
the army they might produce benefit iu that way, for no
doubt wives and families in the line were a great preventive
of mutiny. They might also employ irregular instead of
regular cavalry. Lord Dalhoureo had recommended the
adoption of that course, ad he had even advoceted the w ith-
drawal of two regiments of the Queen's troops. and that ir-
regular cavalry should replace them. The irregular cavalry
had lien tewili realigned, but they had rendered good rerviee.
Another question vu whether we ehould erui.ley native
artillerymen ; and his own opiuion was theta it
was a very dangerous thing In have native artillery-
men, and Ire touch doubled whether what web called the
"black artillerymen" should be continued. He spin upon
these menet, wi.h great diffidence, but they were queenuns
which muse be inquired into in the re-organiestion of the
Indian army If they were questions which men like them-
selvein could decide on, he did not see that they reluired an
immense I tnach of military genius to deride them, and he
hoped that whet they did settle them the result would be the
benefit of the melee. Sir rabbit Grant was now called on
to preside over the Bengal army, and he was theater', of the
company'e servants who bed been sent to comtwind a Presi-
dency. This had been done at his (Mr V. Smith's) nugget,-
tires. Sir 311112(KOntrene had been also just appointed • mem-
ber of the Legislative Council, and therefore the
Governer-Otteral was not wanting in advice. But if it
wags more satreisetm, to the public, he had no &trio that
theGovemor-Clonere would water any personal ronaulaence,
and neer any assistance that might toe edit from this
country. Though ho felt great difildence in speaking upon
such matter., yet he was net without hope that the wen*
had ['woad. Certainly, es far re he was concerned, the effeir
Worth! nut want energy or residuity. it was ono of the most
awful create vetch had happened in the history of India—
(rear, hesr),—and he had no hesitation in raying that be
did net know any stmt that had so norh street: society from
a distance no ties ; for it was imposeible to walk the streets
without seeing the anxiety which prevailed. The monition
was one of inUll(1110 importanee, and it wee one to which the
house would do well to devote itself, even et this
late period of the session. If they thought that
anything cows wrong, or if they diremproved of env
one preterit in the government of India, let them strike
at that preen. But he thought it was the duty of that
home to wait, unless they found any deficiency in the system
or in anboly connected with the government. If, like Lord
; Elksborougli, they thetruisted him, in God's 11111111.., t them
attack the train in fault. lie could assure them that his own
personal prorreeis should not for a monient stand in the
way. If there wee any weak head or faltering blued, let
diem at once wrest power from that hand and that head
but 'fret, do not let them enfeeble the arm that was intended
to sited e. nor UIIi4LITIVA than* who had to conduct the again
of India in a very difficult crisis.

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&lE. I:i• 1 i ili ir ;Li it appeared to him that there were only
two possthle modes of governing India. One mode was the
exhibition of an overwhelming force, the repthesion of all
intellectual learnt by keeping the natives of India
in a perfect elate of subjection. and the excite.
Sioll et natives from all offices 4.f tenet; the other
was the association of the natives with ourselves in the
government of the country, the getting a largo portion of
the wealthy end influential dames of suriety allied with us
in interest, and the admission of suitable nativee to oflithr
of trust. lie believed the latter mode to be 111..) proper one.
and the only ono which could lead to a satisfactory state of
things in ludic. Ile did not deny that the government of
Indio must he despotic • that to attempt to introdnee Bogle&
institutions there would hs absurd; what he said in common
wit b other Io d :au reformers was, amain order to govern India
well, they most attend to Indian es well us British
interests. (Hear, hear.) On that subjett the government
were deluded by men who were themselves deluded—
men who never opened their months on this question,
as he Led remarked to Sir Jounce Hogg, ex-
cept to prectht the mot flattering pictures of
I thestate of affairs in India. (Hear, hear.) lie rejoiced that
I,the with, hon. penthnoin opposite had iotroduoed the sub-
ject, for he believed that the circumstance of its going forth
to ludia,siusultaneously with the despatching of a lugs force
to put down revolt, that generous and libend-tnindod states-