The Express.
London, England, 1868-01-16 00:00:00

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-----THZ EDUCATION 001,1FERINCIC AT impatient part of the bill ;if you senourage a rate you
IdAIiCHESTER. slay dimming, voluntary effort. Unsold bays a rate as ,
a last rawer" and would net hum di* TalerVe, bat
---. apply it at cane. There are simgy Aladin wine Me
At the conference yesterday letters of apolou impossible you can find a desire is rals the. iamb
for nos-attendance were read. Lad Stanley maid fez' their own sakes. There are In Lehi* so
sewn bee the =teethe of °sag duty would premed dews already by retie QM II is We nn* to sok
have lonit him away ; en John Paidagtos said he them to adopt it of 6eir own mend. Whim the rates
felt liWnished interen la the question ; Mr. Jahn are so high that the ratepayers are theendess rapes
Stain Mill explained that he should be absent hem falling into a eta* of pauperism, it is ageism* say i*
at the mean time, but that ha approved highly ese ens,* to see • bill of this kind odoiliteld. We Mr
of
Mr.
Mil ; Earl Roma was very sorry diat he expect • great deal of opposition from meny e= fens
' would not be able to attend the embrenee, sad thought persons who will say it is unfair to piasideme gat
might be expedient ues to make the bill ecompubery in one kind of property. It has boa mkt 11011 we
mob
it
the first instance, but that this might be lit to the not be too tender with ?stepson, bat they will have a
Home of Ocinisites ; Professor Tyndall hoped the resolve great deal to say upon the question shame this bill il *
'el the Ssedmilise wend be to book down the obetasies become law. It hi min imPertant Is et
our "teem
whisk deginatie daselm (not rele)_ opposed to the of education then to think that cos system
ass of nut
rat of the qm'f . • ; Lord Houghton would have be stered. Them Lane reason why • system of rating
lbesiFht but for the unsatiabotery ante of Lady should if
iilte reeenddered in order that
's health, and meandered thin if Manchester there ma a el dealing with improvements
may give • practioal experiment of the of this kind. demands that there should
of a real system of popular education be sodal and sanitary provements, and that they should
rt% &sable her fame with would the Hoe. be mule locally. I West many rateLsiertshaz them ill lookweiiiti
asits:jegbelaretheeig: the od
eehreoll:weemso the rierneil: ' not r • thin fiLlittninal °pi:esti:in het,
measure we 'ht
and Inlaid dispel the idea that the are"' moneney :air. essaniThe
gereldpubbeiteried to dttnitilli
imbeds& es would lave the effect of deetroying the neglected adilantriete, butel would not go so far next
dieemninntadeol 'domain ;.. Ms J. Kay Shutdown* . semi= of parliament as to attempt to compel every child
=ay quipsibimed wit& the general objects the con- to attend, beaus it is impossible to pass that at present.
bad in vier ; and other leans had been maned (Cheste-)
hem the Arehhishep of York, the Mae's! St. David's, Kr. Hann, M.P., suggested that is the bill which it
the lidesp_ et Mater, Mr. Gebbein Bellitb. Prehmse was proposed tointrodua•Tato 'ulnas*, instead:if allow-
ltimiett, the Eight lim. S. Cave, M.P., Mx. Glyn, ILP., ing the principle to be earned out by town councils, pro-
K. Gesevesser, M.P., Sir H. A. Roare._Mr. Cobbold, I widen should be made foe applying it by an education
-MP--.212. ,Swig, M.P., Mr. J. B. 1 acinamittes, elected for the pur in the different poor
H.P.Mr. . Dint, ILP., Mr. Beaumont, 111. P., 11111 f unions ; else a number Of thin
eon* be left out
Lewis,Ldr. Tolleenache, ILP., Sir John I deeply because they were outside of the boroosh.
. end ethers. I (Hear, beer.)
Thomson, of an inquiry made ley the Manchester Edit- The Rev. Cams HOG•EIIi advocated* panning,* rather
saMtid Society were read by Dr. John Watts. than a cow measure.
Mr. Buses opening address, the mistime an. The Rev.l7.7.in said • permissive measure would
heumeed for dismission wore—l. Per
or ocomptil- give rise to unlimited wrangling in every parish. The
sea Wing. S. If oompuboty bow met in mottoes. ;ay that a compulsory measure would be unteglith was
The Fen. Archdeacon Stanintsais, in expressing
body
adaym- mecrie cant that generaly came from the nest retro
and
grade
nddicated
theingeetre wont oft sheen.) pert of the
community. I
pepahr education. (Hen, hear.) apathyKn as he did the lOn the proposition of Earl Ds GPM and RIPON,
unwilliamen of linglishesee to put theire bands in their ! seconded by Mr. STANSTELD, H.P., the following :mob-
peekels, and the stoblinme of the becode land, he was thou was sabmitted to the meeting:—" That this confer-
quits sure that without • compubory samtnient they mos respectfully request the Right Rm. If. A. Baum,
mad require a regiment of regulars to compel the volun- , Mr. W. K Forster, and Mr. E. Egerton either to re-intro-
tests do their duty. (Laughter.) I duce the bill of last session with such modifications es may
Mr. 01024 E DISON, M.P., said he appeared there as ' be deemed desirable in conference with the Education Bill ',
the earnest adenine of compulsors Ming. (Hear, bear.) Committee to render it WM* complete, or to lead their
The Ilan. AUSEHON 11223115 T was in favour of comps). . support to any government measure based on similar
sory rating, which, however, he would make as inoffensive , principles."
as pawn's. 1 Some convereation took plats' ea to the precise meaning'
Mr. W. E. FOISTIE, M.P., in the course of •• brief of the resolution ; and a Mr. Winciven, "peaking hem the
1 speech, said—The reason why I wished to restrict the body of the meeting, suggested that a sentence should U
Masers of last year to • permisdra bill was because inserted providing that the bill should be based upon • 1
taught pubc opinion and the opinion of the Home of ! compulsory principle. It woe, however, painted we that I
Comm= bid not arrived at that point than it would 'the addition would be unjust to those portions of the can- I
rennet to anything further. My opinion was that the I manly that bad already done their duty, sad thatit
mint arrived at was me at widen there would be • willing- I would tie the hands of the promoters of the Lineation
uses to try an experiment ; and I stated in the house my ' Bill.
belief that the experiment tried would prove to be per I The resolution was ultimately carried with one die-
hotly sucoeisful. But the case is now altered. Since bet sentient.
year our canoe has made great regress, and I believe we I The subject—" Special condition of rural dist:ids"—
are now ripe for a complete bill. Two or three thises I wee spoken to by the Rev. Canon Robinson, the Rev. Mr. I
have happened in our favour. The voluntary islacation- 1 Clary, the Rev. Canon Melville, Mr. Albert Ruben, and
&lista are now wing their great seal on behalf cf education, . others.
and to assist rather than obstruct us. The present
government are showing clearly that, pressed by •
sense of responsibility, they will and means of meeting the
religious difficulty which we could hardly have expected
them to do in opposition ; and lastly, the Reform Bill has
become law and gives at once more power to pus • com-
plete bill, aid increases also in the mild, of many a sense
of the need of such a bill. (Cheers.) Therefore I think
the country is now reedy for a complete system ; and if
ready, it is not prepared to wait for the onion of a per-
missive system. We should, I think, put ourselves in the
position of being considered unequal to the situation if see
were not to respond to the feeling of the country, and we
should find, as indeed we ought to do, that the matter
would be taken out of our hands. For these grounds the
bill ought to be now made complete, and it should net
b left pen to the objection that after all it did
note
meeot the neglected districts of the country.
I will briefly throw out the mode by which I,
and I think our right honourable chairman too.
would meet the difficulty. I would leave the bill as it at
present stands, arranging that the majority of ratepayers
should at once bring the act into operation ; and more,
has been suggested by Mr. Herbert, I would give power
to the government—to • Minister of Education if there be
one, to the Privy Council-office if them be not ena—to
inquire by means of government officiaL (I should not
suggest inspectors) into the state of the neglected dis-
tricts ; and upon proof being given to the satisfaction of
the government that there were not sufficient schools, or
that existing schools were not good enough, I would em-
power the government, by order in council, to force the
district to rate itself. (Hest, hear.) I think it would be
exceedingly unwise for us to come forward at once with a
compulsory rating bill that would extend all over the
country, because there are many district' in which by the
voluntary system there are good schools already estab-

POLITICAL IDUCATION POE WORKING MEN.

Last night a public meeting was held in Cam-
bridge-hall, Newmaneireek Oxford-street, Mr. Thome,
Hughes, /11. P., in the 'hair, to inaugurate a eerie, of
Deduce, to be given by the EMT. H. Belly every Wed-
needay evening till Raster, on the political and social his-
tory of the Roman republic (iatroduotory to the history of
modem Swope), and every Sunday wedge, on the con-
nexios of religion with politico, and with other matters of
daily life. Letters sympathisiug with Mr. Sally's object
bad been reeeived from Mr. John Stuart Mill, M.P., Pro.
fuser Fawcett, M.P., Mr. Layard, Mr. titansfeld,
ILP., Mr. Goldwin Smith, Mr. Samuel Morley, and other,
gentlemen who were unable to attend. The chairman
said they had met to wish Mr. Solly God speed, and is
amid bun as for as they could in the new work he bad
undertaken. Perhaps the working classes required the
amistance of such lectures more than any ether see-
tion of *misty, and the subject for the Wednesday evening
cliscumions had bees well chosen, for nothing could better
illustrate the politics of our own day than the history of
the Roman republic. The divinity lectures he regarded
even as of more importance than the historical. (Hear,
hear.) Religiou questions were moving deeply not only
the minds of the Loglith, but el ell other peoples, and the
estningement there had been of late years amongst the
wo. king classes of London from all consideration of those
religious questions had been a source of grief to Mumelf
and others. It was impossible for those great questions to
be passed over without serious evil, for on the swathess
of oar religious and political thought depended the
perity of minus. (Applause.) Mr. Belly expressed his
delight at witnessiog so full an attendance at this pre-
liminary meeting, and dwelt upon the importance nowa-
days of studying the science of polities. He, with • few
frieads, were anxious to help the working man to the study,
but while they looked after the politics of the state they would
never lose sight of the politics of the kingdom of God.
(Hear, hear.) lie was quite sure that time could not be
lost in studying well the history of the greatest republic
that had ever existed. Grecian history was the foanda-
tion of modern thought, Roman history of modern states-
manship, and for that reason he had selected the latter
fur the subject of his lectures. The Sunday lectures would
be unaccompanied by any form of religious worship. There
would, however, be sacred muds of the highest order,
ion and
• small charge would be made for the cards of admies,
so as to make the movement Pelf-supporting. (Lieu,
hear.) Professor Seely, ILA., moved the first re-
solution, remarking that the greatest political fact of
past history was certainly the Roman republic ; sad Mr.
Sally bad made a highly judicious selection. The resole.
lion aloud that "the meeting heartily approved of
the projected serial of lectures en Roman a+etoryaco the
political school fur all times and countries, to be given by
the Rev. Henry Italy, believing that such urse will
be beneficial to the working closes, the experiences of other
nations and ages having become move than ever important
to them dace they have been invested with the rights
and called on to discharge the duties of citizenship." The
resolution wan seconded by Mr. J. Parker, sad unani-
mously adopted. The Rev. Edward White moved the
second resolidien, aa follows:—"That in the opinion at
this meeting Mr. Solly's proposed mums of Sunday ~deg
lectures will meet • want Mt by a clue of oar
countrymen who are not apresent identified withongt
system of theological teachiag,or with say religious
odium We therefore pledge ourselves to aid luni in his en-
deavours to meet that want aseordi the boit of our
• ability." The resolution,which wee was
to
seconded by Mr. Row,a
working men, sad supported by Mr. Hodgson Pratt.
having been carded imanimoudy, • third wes proposed by'
Mr. Neill, seconded by Mr. Dell, sad speed to, as fol-
lows:—" That the inertia( hear
with much satisfaction
that Mr. Solly's lecture committee have taken steps for
the building or purchase of premiss for • central working
nian's hall and artissa's club, whore lectures and comets
may be gives, buena. be treasacted, sad public or mo-
dal meetings be Uhl, the want of such • place of meeting
lodes lung been felt by the working men of this metro
pole." A vote of thaaks was then pared to the chairman,
and the meeting, which was emnposed chiefly of working
use, lesru*OL

The Rev. G. W. CONDER spoke of the active part he
had taken in the voluntary movement during the last
twenty years, and said he was not there for the purpose of
making any recantation. He still held that it was first of
all the parent's duty to educate his child, and that, were
it practicable to bring parents to • full sense of their
responsibility in this wetter, they might achieve the greatest
results by appealing to this principle. He was further of
opinion that if the various oducetionalforces of the country
but been directed to a common object, they would Dili now
be in their present unsatisfactory position. He warned
the meeting against erecting • new institution in the
country which was out of harmony with the existing insti-
tutioas. Happily, we in England knew little about com-
pulsion, and we ought not to resort to it except under the
direst necessity.
Mr. &SW, M.P., wished to state, in the fewest pos-
sible words, that he was sn uncompromising supporta( at
compulsory rating and compulsory attendance at schools.
(Applause.) Hit in had no short experience on this sub-
ject, he was prepared to give practical reasons for the
avowal he bad made.
Mr. J•coe Barone said the question for present dui.
[ sire was whether they should propose to parliament
[ • permissive bill—that one enabling communities
[ to support education by local rates, or whether
the should have a bill in the ordiumy mass of an act of
parliament, which would be binding upon the whole
[ country. He came into the conference with the iatention
of giving his support to the bill in the shape in which
[it was introducedin the last messiest of parliament,
[ because be believed that the country wee not ripe enough
upon this question to bare rating forced uwa it.
[ But he had another reason for • permiasive bU He
thought they might carry • permissive bill, while the oppo-
sition to one of a more stringent character would be so
[ pat that they would probably not noosed with it.
[ But having heard the compromise suggested by Yr. Ironton,
[ he must say he was sufficiently zealous for education to
I agree in a moment to that compromise. It seemed to him
[ to meet the question, and to De • position where they
might all oomMne.
The Right Hon. J. G. GOSCHIX, ILY. (who was much
cheeeed), said—lt is the duty of the state to leek after
matters of this immense importance in the same way as
it is its duty to started to sanitarymiters. I de not
think it is
far nonesary to extend this principle
too —Omar, bear)—becouse the limit that is to
be drawn seems to me to be clam enough.
The Mate is bound to interfere in those mess where the
subjects with which it deals are not able to amid them-
selves. That is the prieciple which underlies all oar fac-
t/in legislation, and which underlies that legeri :
whisk intederee with what you may call the ti
of
Inglishiners. That liberty is curtailed in netters w
die seam of some interferes with the liberty or interests
ef Ilia general community. This is the only country whim
eidld of every perms born into it bus • right to be
maintained at the expense of the community, and it ap-
gems to me that • certain degree of compulsory mitigation
is the natural corollary of the poor law system. (Mean)
If the community is to be bound to support • child in
after-life if it cannot work, lively they haves
aZti
step in and say *impe
. they will l that to
be put in • position by which it will be able to MB
its livelihood and become • useful member of seat
These are arguments almost miperinons te urge in tar
eseembly ; but it is aot as
to pat Mom an record
to answer such questions as are asked as to wirer is
duty sad right of the state. It is very clear that them who
axe as strongly impressed with that view as I am este tlee
that In this
right of the state to interfere will be delighted
great meeting to-day there bee bees almost a general Itor
sent in sanctioning and recommending • very large acidi-
ties to the measurer it was proposed last year. Our
chairman said that that measure, as it stood, was act veep
applicable to the seeteepelis. slows felt that was the
ems. What we went in the metropolis is • system which
will pick up ell those phew swot dealt within,
ofroft. We want • system thotwill deal with distristsw=
have neither the power, bealbeidoe, nor puha* spirit to
act tor themselves. La ell begs eeinaunities whore dif-
ferent climes live in diffuses' parts of the town, and cue
slass cannot see whet is as la the ether, it is *emir
mry that some public atskla la eider te take
the initiative. I quite smeglihilie trifik whit was laid
Mr. Hobert this rwillb 114:41rir view wee put f
by Mr. Lowe, , end*. Naga hos enarmold
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make this cosamilsica universe/ all ems the aenstrls
bemuse neeemery to ntpiss volemipsi Wort wherever
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