The Express.
London, England, 1861-03-02 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

MOUSE OF LORDS.—FRIDAY, MARCH 1.
mat lordships met at Beaks&
PRI VATS BUSINESS.
The Hatton Cok6ew Corporation Estates Rill, the Cale-
donian liallways piaaaaellocana Swatch) Hill. and the Glas-
gow awl Milaagaire Junction Hallway Hill, were wort a
Named time.

-Lied N BY, in moving for a nnmlier of dorm-
er:lda Covering light upon the wens Ouse, which the
attain" of Italy have ~we through dining the list two
yesue euhsral in detail into the various circun.stance. which
Ind tea-send in Itais ',nice the pence of
Ilavius elargal Sir .1. limb° with having been duped in
tho smatter .4 Savoy awl ice, he turmoil to the
present e 'edition Of Italy, cod scouted the idea of a united
Italy—se idea of very recent growth, and in uppoitien
the sentiments id the greatest autherities. Indulging
in • mien, criticism of the couiluct of Victor Ememuuel,
for hi. duplicity ei supportiug Garibaldi le Sicily and
f krwa .14 to. oiling Neples, be pewee. lal ti review
the poi ey of the Sardiniau goverument in the Papal
Settee, the intrigue.. batters the King of Sardinia aril the
Illeublicin party the atrocious cruelties of the Sanliriau
troop■ in the .thrniai, the prvelanatione of General Pinelli,
mud the Lite of the reactioeists who had Jared o, rains
that newhitel for Fraecis 11., and on one and all of thee.,
p.-rion. cod things peened forth a torrent of reprobation.
In coeclienoo, he communed the mode be which Slit elec.
0004 had been conducted, and oleerved that the universal
steerage pra:thial in then saes sham, and that the electors
lend been inti 11l i . label hr the presence of revolutioeary
intake. lie ilclaitued against the inouasisteecies of Lord
John Knoell, the whole of whose policy he never* ate
tacked, u,.1 besoiedit the house not to be led away with the
the that the Italians eared asythine for English sympathy.
Lor.l 'NE said that it appeared to him the
spveti of the noble marquis required seareely air- reply
from ens lied representing her Majesty's government,
tor the 'edit. marquis had said almost nothing ma to the
uonduet ..f the mivernment. If her Majesty'. government
veined that the Italians might succeed, it was simple be-
muse the elate of Rely awe the treaty of 1815 hal bra
most diegenius and uasatisfactory. They bad not niter-
fend, pat tly because they bed not wen their way toe better
settlement, and partly because they had not thought it
nen to meddle with the internal concerns of another
country. Hitt now that that treaty was disturbed by the
war which France had male, their wish was that a more
satisfact. iry arrangement might be come to. bleoilas, had
there hero no intei fetters before! Did not the grad
power in len deteriiiirie on nuuNhiog an army into Naples
for the purpose, as was said, of restoring order? And had
that result bees anisfactory ? Her Napery's government
hoped that if the Italians were left to settle their owe affairs,
the result might be to remove the peril which had menaced
Kirov., 1. or So many years. (Hear.) It might be said that
the prineipk• of independence had been interfered with, sail
so doubt there had beat exceptions, such as the CUM' of
Belgium and that of Greece ; hut, notwithstanding thee.
eeceptions, be believed that the doctrine of every govern.
meet in this weary was that there should be no tote:fur
once with the internal repetitious of other powers— that we
should not easstitute ounalves into ma Areoipagus, and,
seder the plea of restoring ceder, prevent the settlement
by each satiate of its owe Wham (Heim hear.) Whether
we should plea, the grained, of the of Italy it was
not for him to say, thatch he believed the policy of
the country was appreciates! at the presest moment in
Italy; but he did honest that the noble marquie should
look without • mark of sympathy upon efforts which he be-
lieved had never been surpassed by those of any people or
at any period. (Lend chairs.)
The Earl of HALMb.IHtIiY mid the lad words of the
noble lord hail emanated the sprains be had long enter-
tained, that it we impassible for any tooth lord to express
his opinions on the abject of Italy if those °pinned did
not agree iu every tittle with whet was commonly said on
the subject, without running the risk of being charged with
• want e. sympathy fur the efforts which the Italians were
making for the recovery of their independence sod their
liberty. IHear, hear.) He (the noble earl/ boil the liePri•
ems of ltd., quite as mach at heart sow as when be
was as sethusisetie youth travelling is that country
just after having left school. But ha must loth
at the fact. as they were. He meat regard them in a poli•
tical and not in a poetical light ; for they were sot sitting
on the 'tinny slopes of Parnassus, but as the dewy benches
of parliament. (laughter.) It was somewhat unfair to
Marge the noble marquis with lack of sympathy with the
Itriliane. He had panted many years in that country ' • he
was intimate with noisy of its principal statesmen ; he bail
teen employed by her Majesty as envoy in cue of its courts,
and he h ul naturally • peewee! predilection for many of
the faniiiiee which bed suffered. The noble marquis's hel-
ixes, therefore, were quite *Notifiable ; and the complaints
be bed made of • want of septicaemia in the papers which
had bees laid no the table were equally so. It was said
that the *obi' lord at the head of foreign
affairs hail latterly diecouniged that redundancy of papers
which seed to prevail ; bat the noble lord might here put
bin veto on despatch writing altogether, to judge from the
Mee book on the table. Wei there, for instance, no owes-
speedist• ea the siege of Gaeta, either with the Sardinian
ens the beech governnact ? Really, thus *obis lord seemed
to have thisseil the papers in • manner the revers.- of that
is which they thinned their woods—be seemed to have cut
set ',scythe*" that was large and important, sad left only
the soma and insignifisent timber mewling. (Laughter and '
sheen.) It was strange that there were no despatches from
Sir J. Hods= and Mr. Elliot on the subject of the election.,
the morel feeling of the people, mid the like. He spoke '
from experience when he said that the complaint used to
be that those gentlemen went too much, rather than ton
little, into detail upon such subjects. The noble lord said
that he wished the Italians to chose their own government
and to father their owe acts. If by that he meant that
the independence of the peninsula should be established,
he perfectly agreed with him ; but be could not agree that
dt should be done by the formation of one Italian nationality.
The fact was there were no two nations in Europe MOTO
opposed to each other in tastes and feelings, and eves in
race, than the Neapolitan, awl the Piedmontene. (Hear
hear.) The cobra lord said that Lord John Rut-
sell MIS not for the unification of Italy • hut
that be thought two kingdoms would be more desirable
thee the. Bet whatever might be the noble lord's views,
there was no doubt that, willingly or otherwise, his policy
Ind led to a diametrically different result from that of
which he proposed to approve. From the beginning Sar-
dinia had shows the cloves fool He (Lord ilarsesbury)
did sot teeth •eyti•y uncivil to Sanlinia—(laughter)—but
what he math was, that while the talk was of patriotism
and libmathea, the eie,ea e&lefambitioo end annexation
hadpeeped out. In 185 d, wilMi (Lord Mahnesbury) had
th them
theta
niailL tithe Weems e_Faidiaioopenlfrontyshowed
tattint
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Laded on the
Yet so en.deitinv G
edana,••
village. and small I • I 1 rt. was no donbetant
Shell eilFelifildM • r 1. . • • • • ant erre the begins* of
he • wry 1,.11 so akimbo's the dream of
"""I•,_ t i I ref- • A talibinipt was made to
""`ng'"' • !'ire • I) s••• Int fariessitoly that was
pra.eut k .. . failitaram to eummenee • war
prick • . • I sided • Austria, beginning at the
t ll staillbas happened two years rater.
Ailed elated that he had no intentions of
seperdii. meet. tut that hie Nora object was
eyrie I viol Italy. Their lordships knew,
3 what followed, whether Count Caviler hod
Itemise. Their lordships recollected bow
w relent • Europe trembled at the im-
peril ect of • great and enamel war. The
la "everyman did what they could to prevent. or to
at least localise it, by persuading Gernonly not to involve
herself ton early. Then the Austrians broke the peace, soil
the war followesh He (lard Malrombury) believed the
battle of Solferino we for Europe • most providential vic-
tory if victor.. it could he called. It waa a most fortunate
inspiration which impelled the Emperor of the French to
select that moment for negotiations. His uncle, or a km
wise man, would not have takes so prudent a step. He
therefore called the peace of Yillafrinea a most providen-
tial event; fuel if Austria del not do all that some
amid have Impel, tie' treaty at least secured the
happier." of the north of Italy. But Sardinia wee
disappoieted of what it expected would have
been its prey, and left so means untried to
prima the airsneeme.nt firm being carried out. It put all
W sovereigns of Italy ins dilemma, or rather • trilernms.
(Laughter.) Either it said, "You are foreign.-re, and
therefore you meat turn out." Or it said, " You have
rimmed Lolly." Or, lastly "If von are neither a
iOSSIMMT 1101 have governed ill --which was the awe with
the Ouches. of Parma, them whom nobody had %overeat
better " if you are open to neither objective. you
meet goo. or there veal i.e n, unift.stion." Muir, beer.)
He must say that althouth the noble lord the Secretary for
Foreign Affairs may have wished is his own mind to divide
Italy into two rarts, he found it impossible to accomplish
that object- He (Lord Malmeshury) had said that the
fording in this country was very strop; on the inilijeet ; he
did sot weeder at it —he did not weeder that the feelings of
a people so food of liberty as ours should he with the Ita-
lia..., but, as he mid before, aidepencleary from foreigners
was a prieriple always to be supported. (Hear, hear.) As
to the iiiimitien of Italian unity, many peewee, hal bees
most extbusiatic, wed many misitakea, in thinking thin the
Italians were oat awl the same race. He hal seen politician.,
pkibuthropists, and moralists ailsl rejoicing at this Italian
clapped their
net,i; end
th...."Pa" of
Cul:torrayld ask tie Philos-
to the same thee :
th • te whether they thought it would add to the happi-
sae of mankind to form another of throe great military
camps which in his opinion were the of the greet pests of
thit age. After his thislefrised (Lard Wodshouse) bad told
the bone that be eine not defending all the sets
of the King of Sardinia as te what may probably have he
beaches of international law, he should say nothing no that
point. A. he said belary, teethe could feel • stronger sem.
pithy with the Italisa thou he did, but if la might
say nee weal to them "Trust yourselvee,
end au other remake.. (Hear, hear.) They would never
he imiejendeet if they beat wpm foreign aid. They might
=I upon it that if lealy was to be an iodependeet
• it would he as esethery fur her existence that she
Anna have a_poererfal °enemy es one side se Frame as
the ether. (rasa hear.)
Lewd LLANOVER mid. as far ac he could judge, set
ally from hie visit to Naples on the oceaoon referred to.
but else from having hem frequently anion them, earl
hearing the feeling, of the Italian people generally, he
meet ray his noble treed wee embody wrong in shoo;; tint
their feelings were violated in any way waterer on the
ramie* alluded Mt es the eestrary, them were grog re-

joicings on that occasion. With regard to the presence of
the French Beet at Gaeta he felt perfectly certa‘n that were
it not for that circumstance, Gaeta must have fallen at a
much earlier periml, and all that great effibion of blood
and that reactionary movenieut which was spreading
through the country, would not have taken place. With
reference to another paint, the confiscation of the propert•
of the royal family of Naples, the noble lon I the Seer
for Foreign Affairs protested as far as be could against that
act, and wrote a despatch to Turin expressing a hope that
no proposition of that kind would be carried out. The noble
lord said ale, that there wait 110 feeling wliiit•
ever for Euglantl existing in Italy. Ile (Lord
I.lanover) never saw any feeling more string from
Naples to Turin in favour of Great Brit du. The
people of Italy did not wish us to rush into war, but they
knew very well we hail sympathy for them, and they knew
also that the expression of those feelings, whether within
the walls of the Euglish legislature or throughout the
collet; v. would have great effect in Europe. He wohed at
thin moment there was no int ion if there was not,
depend upon it Italy would soon settle down and be quiet ;
and he hoped now, from circumstances which had taken
place within the last few days, that an illustrious personage
wool,! see that it was impossible to please two
portico so opposite to each other, awl that
be must either go with the ultnimontane party
or o with his people. But of this he was quite sure, that
if they left the Italians to themselves, and allowed them to
manage themselves, they would make use of those benefits
which Giel Almighty had given them, but of which hitherto
thepoto heti deprived them. (Hear, bear.)
The Marquis of NORMANBY briefly replied. He wanted
to know if his noble friend, who wished there was no inter-
vention at Naples, had not °boomed any intervention there
in the shape of the English Legion, and did he not know
they were encouraged by the English government. [Lord
LLINOVEIt- lam not aware of it. Then he must say his
noble friend's knowledge of Napa was not worth much.
Perhaps his noble friend was not aware either that though
there were 500,1.00 inhabitants in Naples, all that came for-
ward out of the number to show their sympathy for Gari-
baldi by joining the legion was just $O. The noble marquis
concluded by sayieg that he should accept the papers in the
modified form agreed to by his noble friend (Lord Wode-
bowie).
The motion, as amended, wee agreed to.
Their lordellips adjourned at 8 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FaiDAY, MAILCH 1.
The SPLICE' took the dud: of Are minutes before four
o'cluck.

PRIVATE 817111N1216.

The Bristol Cheenel Pilotage Bill was read a wood time.
THE WESTMINSTER IMPROVEMENTS BILL.

On the motion that this bill be read a second time,
Sir W. GALLWEY opposed the motion. The Westmin-
ster Improvement Commissioners were originally an un-
common huikliogsocietv, who had got their affairsiotoa most
disgraceful state ;and iaterreinairung in that state for • Qua.
sidenible time thin bill had been introduced to put an end
to it; but the :ation referred to in the measure ought
to be dealt with in a public bill, and not in a private one.
The commissioners were appointed to make these so called
improremeuts. but though the object was a public cos tie
act was passed to confer private profit and advantage: After
years of mismanagement, a billwaeia lifillpassed,minng the

Cuiumissicaters power to hese beads i. 4- am-oust
they might think proper, and resting
on no security whatever, be under' the ma-
embalmers had exercised their power of issuing
boo& to a large extent, both by public auction and
otherwise. The bill before the house recommended that the
bondholders should appoint twol commissiooers, and that
Moment commissioner, should select two; but that would
be like tandem two dogs and two cats ioto one room. They
amid set agile. It was very desirable that the present
dimpoodial state of things should not exist any longer, and
he lisped the government would do their best to put an end
to it. He begptl to move that the bill be read a wood
time that day six mouths.
Mr J. SHELLEY thought the bill should be read a
emceed time, and then be referred to a select committee up
stairs. He feared the bondholders bad lost the whole of
their money ; but it was of no use looking back. The
question was, what should they do with this matter ; and he
believed the object of the bill was to enable certain com-
missioners to deal with the property, and to put an end to
the pressat state of things.
Mr. T. MILLER thought if this bill were not read a woad
time it would be a public calamity, and therefore be
trusted the house would not object to do so.

Mr. COWFFIL mid the hon. barooet bad stated no rea-
son why the bill should not be read a second time. It was
tree the government advanced 50,000/., the object of the
ecomininiorrere being a public improvement, but no control
over tbe fund was reserved to the First Commissioner of
Public Works. If the whole worse of proceedings of the
Impeovernont Commissioners had been a series of blunders
it might be natural that the bondholders should be glad to
make other persons responsible to them ; bat he did not see
that any other course was open to the parties than that pro-
posed, to read the bill a 'wood time and then refer it to a
select committee.
After some further cooversation
Sir W. GALLW EY withdrew his amendment, and the bill
was read a mood times
PUBLIC BLIMPS &
EXCLUSION OF HINDOOS FROM OFFICE.
_ _

Colonel STEIN asked the first Lord of the Treesnry
whether the goverment considered that the 87th section
of the Act 3 end 4 Will, 4,0.1 E% which enacts "That no
native of the said territories (India), nor any eatural.born
subject of his MajesaFaident therein, shall, by reason
only of hie religion, of birth, descent, colour, or any of
them, be disabled holding any place, office, or em-
ployment under the said company," was applicable only to
the eimiamoo of natives into the service of the East India
Company, and not into the service of the crown; sad
whether her Majesty's subjects residing in India bed or
had net the same rights now as they had under Use East
Judie Company, and which her Majesty's subjects polesend
residing elsewhere.
Lord PALMERSTON—My opinion la, that the claims of
her Majesty's subjects in India for employment in the
public service have not been in any way affected by the
transfer of the govcrnment from the East India Company
to the crown. (Hear, hear.)