The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1856-02-23 00:00:00

NORTHERN TIMES.-LIVERPOOL, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 113.50.

HUSE LOR .
The LORD CHANCELLOROF
tookDS his seat on—YESTERDAY
the woolsack
t five o'clock.

.ed the copj.
Right lion.

Journal _de la Marine, of S. Petersburg
received at nerlin 'on the 2Jd inst, contain'-
special report on the disposal,th thetto un explain
of the Russian forces at.

present were the following
(high

United Kingdom

rose Lace

Maclie,

:ngfatn, F.

thAt neither

A. Itami,

ght tho clothes upon hi; I)

lion, S. R. Graves,

G. J. Duncan, William

gentlemen

letters pitent with

William. Rathooo, Lawr

David

lo could address

to sit an

materiel is at For

the military envoyat Berlin, G

Hodgson, Philip F. Curry (coroner), Wrenn, Avison,
Adam Hodgson, Henry Danson, James M. Wood, David
Rae, James Smith, William Fisher, Ralph Brocklebank,
James Reay (secretary to the Guardian Society), Back-
house Robinson, Robert. Daglish, Roger Lyon Jones,
Charles Saunders, James Thompson,.Christooher Bushell,
M. J. Sidney, J. B. Lloyd, S. Holme, J. Holme, R. Gard-
ner, T. Toulmin, George Holt, E. Bradley, J. A. Picton,
D. Crosthwaite, J. Robertson, W. Preston, T. D. Ander-
son, Alderman Cooper, Thomas Cooper, Alderman Parker,
Reekvvith,lM'Gowan, Woodruff,:Wasstaff, and Alderman
Dover. -

ect, " that

)unt • Munster

uoes not return to St. Petersburg'

sea beeh eitereise.ctin

~-

tee nouse, therefore, would. not be justified
g the illegality of the patent in creating Sir
'ke Baron Wensleydale, or, on referring to that
fn fea

THE CONFERENCES

his seat as a

We learn, on good authority, that Rus
fl

given

up the

pose a series

_ rererence to
Nieolaieff, and, itiaeed, that is -corroborated by
our" telegraphic news in another column.
It is reported further (on Russian authority)
that I}othiug is more certain than peace, and that
the Conferences themselves were mere 'matter of
forth, .

re that

a the opinion of the
as that measures should be taken to preVent
of the Wensleydale Peerage being made a
d to provide security against the power of
) create life peerages.

e crown t
The t

-uANcEr,moR opposed the motion, and, agreed
the legality of the crown conferring peerages

The Mayor said : Gentlemen, we7shall commence the
liminess of thig important meeting :by calling upon the
deputy town-clerk to read the requisition in consequence
of which this meeting has been

This satisfactory aspect 13 attributable to the
union and identity of views existing bet%Veen the
English and French governments. his stated that
the Emperor, in, his interview with the 'Earl
of Clarendon, which lasted an hour and a half,
told the English Plenipotentiary that the position
assumed' with respect to
,Russia would be IS
firmly, msiiiitalted by 'him as by England.
The assertion of, the Constitutionnel that the
article from ihe Siecle was inserted by the llfoniteur
by mistake is not credited.

The committee then divided. Tne numbers were—
contents. 92; non-contents, 57. Majority, 35.
Their Lordships rose at half-past one o'clock.

The Deputy Town-clerk, Mr. Hughes, read the requi-
sition and a few of the signatures first attached, which
were received with louclapfplause.

JSE OF CONIMONS.—YrsTERDAY
ANEE took the OMr at the ttsital heat

The Mayor : Before we proceed further, I beg to call
Upon the deputy town-clerk to read letters which I have
received from gentlemen who feel a, deep interest in the
question, but are unable to attend here—Mr. Charles
Turner, Mr. J. A. Tobin, Mr. llngh7llornby, Mr. Alder-
man Turner,' Mr. Wm. Earle, and Mr. Richard Brook.
I may also observe at the same time that several gentle-
men, who usually have taken an active part, and• who
always feel a deep interest in the prosperity of Liverpool,
are necessarily prevented from being present to-day,
owing to the fact of this being the day of the annual
meeting of the London and North Western Railway Com-
pany. (Rear, hear.)

PETITIONS.

Sir T.

ALPifSLY

esented a petition from Mr. George
of. Bristol, stating that a petition was
„to be presented from that city in 'opposition to the
,ing,of the British Museum -and :the National. Gallery
Sundays, the signatures of which had been obtained by
Jost dishonest means, many of the Signatures being those
of Infants of tender age, and paupers: The petitioner
prayed that the House would institute an inquiry.
Mr. BAINEs presented a petition in favour of the bill
for the abolition of local dtiei upon. shipping.
Mr. M. GrnsoN presented several petitions from Man-
chester with a similar prayer.

Count Orloff has arrived in Paris, and the
plenipotentiaries are now all assembled.

BILLS.
The'following privatePRIVATE bills was read a second time :
Aberdeen and Scottish Midland, Junction and Dundee
and Arbroath Railway Campanial. Birkenhead Docks.
Sittingbourne and Sheerness Railway. Stotfield and
Lossiemotith Harbour Improvement. DrilUeld Navigation
E - -
In reply to Mr. Moore.

The Deputy Town-clerk then read the following
letters :

Liverpool, 21st February, 1856.
My dear' Mr. Mayor,—Nothing would prevent my being
present at the meeting tomorrow but the hope that I may, by
proceed to London this evening, more effectually promote the
object we all have in view—to prevent the passing through
parliament of the most unjust bill proposed by the gofetnment,
which would have the effect of depriving the people of. Live-
rpool; without compensation, of property which is admi;ted
legally to belong to them.
As my absence from the meeting wilt be caused in the
service of our common object, I trust that it will be excused
—I remain, my dear Mr. Mayor, yours sincerely,
To the Worshipful the Mayor

rEB lID DA

6ir C. Woos said no tidings had been heard of, the
Nebudda, and it was supposed that she had foundered off
the Cape of Good Hope.

TORTURE IN INDIA.

OTVVxii

ounce that on an early day he should
ition to the reported torture of natives in the
is Company's territories.

UVENI

HonsbrAni in a:

Offen(

CHARLES TURNER,

liiierpooli February 21, 1856,
Dear Mr. Mayor,—l am obliged, as yott are aware,. to be
in London to-morrow on important business, conneeted with
the Town Dues Bill, otherwise I should have made a. ppint
ofattending the meeting at St.. George's-hall, and protesting
against the principle df a bill which, I believe, to be subversive
of the rights of all property arid which bill I cannot believe
will be allowed to pass into a law, when its true and most
dangerous nature is thoroughly understood by the Houses of
Pailiainent.—l remain, dear Mr. Mayor, yours very truly,

..
• . J. A.-TOBIN
'• 25. Parliament-street, -Westminster, 21st Feb, 1856.
• 11Videar Atr.lllayor,-.-1 ain sorry that it will not be in my
power to be present at the public meeting in St. George's-halt
to-morrow; being detained here on important -busines2

have not the least doubt that your meeting will'be a unanirnou
one, and that all classes in. Liverpool will unite in protesting
^”d -unconstitutional attempt on the

uis unrighteou

nt to coot

roe, dear Mr. Mayor, your faithful

as vurn IC.
•
• 25, ParliamPnt-street, Westminster, 21st Feb., 1856.
My deat- 'Mr. -Mayor, I regret that my absence from

o at d

p..7vcii6 my acing at the meeting to morrow,
held in §L George's Hall. I have no'doubt that tiler(
a full attendance; and I sir

hat the

esalutions which will be pa
cfeatieg the measures of the 1

:ed may' 'materially assist in

•overnment in reference to our

'own dues; for never was a more ink

yours very truly

I am, my deL Mr
,WILL. EARLE.

To Wo;

Rodney-street, Friday. .
My, de;r Mr., Mayor,—l. regret very flislch that my
continued indispOsition will 'prevent my having the pleasure
of attending the public meeting, to be held to slay, in St.
George'sliall; on the subject of our local'town dues. I will
only add that. I heartily concur in the views of the requisi-
tionists, and, hope that the unjust attempt to deprive us of our
rights will be defeated.—Believo me, dear Mr. Mayor, yours
J. H. TURNIAR.

'very truly,
Thu Mayo

r, Tonn-L~ll

16, Canning:street, 22nd February, 1856.
Dear Mr. Mayor,—l am much annoyed and disappointed at
not being able to attend the public meeting (as .to the attack
upon the town dues), which I bad fully intended to have
done ; but I, have been very unwell since..l saw you,
and I am peremptorily forbidden by Mr. King Ellison
to attend the meeting. I had hoped to have been of
some trifling Ilse at it ; but you will see from what I have
written that it is a matter of compulsion, not of inclination,
which keeps me from the meeting ; and, that I am neither
abandoning my principles, nor swerving from my offers
of assistance by remaining away.--I am, &c.,
It Buomit E.

To tho Worshipful the Mayor

The'Mayor then said i Gentlemen, I had much pleasure
in calling this meeting, especially when I saw that upon
the important subject the requisition had been signed by
gentlemen of all parties, by the bankers, the merchants,
'the shipowners, the professional gentlemen,the tradesmen
and the shopkeepers of Liverpool—that one and all ani-
mated by the same spirit, seek to preserve the town those
dues to which they believe we are, legally entitled, those
dues which have been secured to thew by conveyances
and deeds and:lnstruments which haVe 'hitherto been held
sacred (Hear, hear, and cheers,) And whilst an attack
is thus made upon the emoluments and rights of Liver-
pool, npon the amount of these town dues so essential a
part. of 'our municipal treasury; I hope those gentlemen
around us will recollect that the great amount which we
derive from that Source is not by any increase of these
rates themselves but rather otherwise. (Hear, hear.) The
inereaseis by the great extension and expansion of the
commerce of the borough, caused in great part by the
increased accommodation we have afforded for ships and
shipping and ter mercantile transactions generally-
(Cheers, and cries of heat; hear.) But whilst some are
attacking us for the purpose of abstracting from us the
amount of our dues, they—forget, perhaps, that they are
loosening one of the great strongholds of society by which
the; property of the country'is held, 'not only=' by Public
and corporate bodies, but by individuals. (Hear, hear.)
And. 1 Can safely assure you, for I have -it from
the very higheSt authority,' from unquestionable
authority, that there is property to an enormous
amount held not only by municipalities, bilt by individuals,
by noble lords, noble dukes, and others, derived from that
verytitle.from which our town dues are derived, and of
which they formed only, a small
,part. Gentlemen may
recollect,' that the conveyance which was originally made
to the citi2lens of London, comprised the dues of Liver-
pool,- which -were then but a very small. portion, a very
triviiii.airMfint indeed, of the whole transaction, that it
was in fact, the extinction of- a debt of upwards of
300,15004 and thit at that time, nareely, in the early years
of the reign of Charles the First, the dues of Liverpool
were a very small part indeed, of that great arnOuht.
But the , one title, the one, conveyance, which epriyeyed
the clfieS.,iof Liverpool, conveyed also divers-rights, over'
fairs; rivers, manors, and so on,, and which are now'
held, ty,,a v,ariety 'of individuals, and by a variety of com
mittees. If Liverpool is to submit to this inroad, which
. . .

I • . .....m........._
I some explanations which he gave, •in reference to theineosntis-
,_ . ,
esWiluitieber It
-- ---- hichila
FERIAE PARLIAMENT.
is now threatened to be made upon the rights iv
Ores
mates,: the hon. member said that; valour rewards would
,T.IIE TOWN DUES
whoha v e
had
retrospectived
distinguished
saenitd
HOUSE OF LORDS —YESTERDAY.,„4at
Mite
ae rate
pd a to
go
nt:h oz
--- hitherto been held sacred, the rights of preferi:itYve'rpo' ole
those who would exult at the deprivation ei• -- 0 I
ionv CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack
d (Cheers) Several of the estimates, including tlite;vote
.df-ihetiien, GREAT MEETING IN ST. GEORGE'S-HALL may yet be whipped with their own ro •
around
sis
i'clock.
rot
were agreed to, and the Chairman then reported progress.
.i.
TT.liiiee DTelli_arlinz.pie.rkeeYlorreusattaßillw.ent
'Arrangement.througha YESTERDAY. shall not occupy your time, for when I see
THE WEYSLETRALE PEERAGE.
nedOmthillei.tcteoem:
GLENELG moved the following questions be put to
......----. the influence of Liverpool, when I see upon W.. 5100
;es—"ls it in the power of the Crown to create by
anclosure,92lls were read a third time and passed.hand, and on my left, gentlemen possessing an env:
beet,
he dignity of a Baron of the United Kingdom for
The Hodge adjourned at 26 minutes to 1 o'clock. The meeting of the inhabitafitS of Literpool, to protest
stake in this town, gentlemen who have alwa.):•hof it
what rights and privileges does such a grantagainst thp Government measure for the abolition of
..
passing tolls and anchorage dues, was held in St. George's- would ill become me to occupy your time ally
Of
ready to promote the prosperit3 of Liverpool, I' ~'",., Oct
stnessi , .
CAMPBELL opposed the motion, considering that
Hall yesterday. As the public are well aware, the meet- I shall, therefore, at once proceed with the be
_,. root'
;tion should rest with Parliament and-not-with
i .1 A
LATES.I' INTF f f IGENCF '
i.i. mg was convened by the Mayor, in obedience to one of
Aetf
ms.- If the motion were carried, it would be
las-
to get all the judges together, and it would be -; -
~ ' 4›- the most numerously and influentially signed requisitions • Mr. J. Pemberton Heywood,'whO was lOudlY aPPicaors
,
if they all agreed when they we:re got together,] _ _, ,_ .- .....L,
FRANCE. call
lion.o p (ph
etlrrs.:sT. P. Heywood to propose the first,
ever presented in Liverpool. Twelve o'clock was fixed on presenting himself, said he rose with greltnP As 11,6
itiSitig even that they should all agree, it would be
)efore their opinions could- be obtaiiLid that they for the commencement of the proceedings, but long before
was no.orator, and seldom' interfered in pubJe , ther
3 useless. The editors of all the Pa, is Journals- wer© sent that time the bOdy-of the hall was nearly filled. A plat- upon this occasion to propo.se-the first
.resoluitr ;
join es:,
:ORD CHANCELLOR snpported the motion, con- for yesterday (Friday) to the - Ministry of the form stretching the whole width of the hall was construct, . wereoccasions when themost apathetic were Nit, them:
he always shrank from coming forward, lant ),'ec`e,i aill
that their lordships °Lunt not to "me t° a .rese- Interior; -wild were ordertitl ndt to publish. any ed under the organ for the speakers, immediately beneath 11' should confess that this occa.sion was one °` ~reak
the subject of the Wensleydale Peerage, until
.
artiels on the queitieh .(,)f' ;Bence or war; pending which was the accommodation for the reporters, of which
(Cheers.) As he had said, he had, therefore,rros.
the best opinions as to the legality or illegality ,
pleasure in, coming forward. He denied that' the °To
ring life peeragPs. the deliberations of the (..,,,Agress. , • i we are happy to say that it was ample and well arranged, either reason or justice in the proposed meosurc*.riarge,
.
all of Wriscuer.sea and Lord BROUGHAM opposed, a feature not always to be observed in Liverpool meetings. corporation of Liverpool had always expended ar,1,,,,, bow
- " " --. . ~ ,
GRANVILLE supported the motion. ,
' The body ar.d galleries continued to fill rapidly, and when fineome not seltistily'for the good of Liverpo(.l:l3",-rt,iicgoi
Lordships then divided, when the numbers were-- 11,-USL lA..
tri'" (I
intents, Present ... ... 62 .. . trie time bad arrived 'for opening the proceedings, the o” the good of the kingdom generally, and mor .
larly for the advantage of the manufacturing dfs 5101
Letter's 'OM , St. PeterAwrg': mention that " the
Proxies .. ... 49-111
- whole of the immense spacei embraced in the hall was Lancashire and Cheshire. (Hear, hear.) !,.,,,° pil It 5
t Contents, Present ...
thoroughly occupied. At tWelv'e o'clock his Worship the confess he had always been rather amazed at lu'ir,,te:,,
Naval acilool at .Nieolaittf is to be removed to
- : Proxies ... ... 45-14')
Cronstadt, and orders are said to haVe bedn kiven lousy exhibited by some of their neizhbours, IPP
gratituae, ior the manlier in which Liverpool f 1
Mayor appeared upon the platform, accompanied by the jo'f.a ,.. • -.•.. ~ . - . to( heir
4ajority against the motion ... ... 31 to proceed no further with the'constrtietion, ofsthe
great deal of-money for the advantage ° det;ol4
leading Speakers who were to take apart in the meeting, out a
!nse then went into committee of privileges. Wi L ces, a line-of-battle ship of 130 guns, on the and was received with a iond-hurst of aPPlause from the trade. (Hear, hear.) He sherd(' not enter into the l„ti
A it
rioutiasr morel that -tie eommhtee agree to stocks at Nicolnieff. .
tic la Marine of St. Petersburgdensely crowded meeting. An2ong the gentlemen then of,the question. They all knew how the' town !,",ti I,ne _
Minn report-,.'"That the committee have., ..a•S , The , Journal . P. ~ been acquired by the •town of Liverpool. TheY.:3,,inv ofr
iy. the House, examined and considered ihe copy • n . , .
~ ~ present_ were the following :—Messrs. J. r. neywood 1.1-..,:,- ~. -., - - .
ers patent pfirporting to create the Rinht lin., received at erlin on ilia 2,3 inel- ~.,

he would conclude by movir4 nnic;isn
leywood then, amid loud aP,v,10130
)latioll, which will be found I*"