The Express.
London, England, 1857-08-08 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 8, 1857.

Oinks ell the get Men pinyon. were ef, they
sbeeld BM it e not proved that seen
reprematalitakesses no
by the bitting members, or by
their agents, id& their enaction, or by any one autho-
rised to act as soot in their behalf.
SEATS OF MEMBERS OF 'IRE GOVERNMENT.
Mr. WRIOIITSON gave notice that early next session he
Gould uv• tee leave to bring in a bill to amend the Mande
with reference to the re•election of numbers of the homed
apt* their aims under the crown.
lt airt EUPHRATES ROUTE.
On the troika far the 80111111111111 t to Momlay,
Mr. ESICOURT, who had given notice that he would
call attention to the expediency of far ilitatieg the 0001MUDi.
cation between One Britain and India by the route of toe
Euphrates, stated that frosting the importance of the eubject,
he had spoken upon it privately to the noble lord at the had
ef the government. (Hear, bear.) That noble lord
led intimated to him that he ehould certainly take
part in the dummies ut the matter. Tire noble lord wee
however unable to isle his place in the bone that evening,
and hence he (Mr. &tame) thought that it would be only
immistent soh good Leith if he refrained from bringing for-
ward the question in the absence of one who, more than any
man in England, understood it in all Bo bearings. Ile be-
lieved that the house would agree with him Br thinking that
be pursued the wisest and Lest course, under the deems,
senses, la postponing his reatien.
ENDOWED SCHOOLS (IRELAND).
M. HULK milked the Chief Secretary for Ireland whether
nay sed what portion of the evidence taken by the commis-
sion= cd endowed school. (Irelimil) bad lean printed; whe-
at, ea report would be pitectited to Ler klejeety's govern.
trot
a November, ea had beau promised; and, if so,
it would be publiebed ve as to he in the bands of pa-
tios leiseeeted during the pulismentaiy recess?
We. H. HERBERT said that a certain potion of the
Mame was in then nde of the prin.er, Lut be did not think
fist le would be rigto lay such evideres before the buns
"diem es aspert• The report bad not yea been prenatal,
=Dwabeserg econned through the illness of one of the eime-
The coemeiseion would expire in November.
Wel
byele refry effort weuld Le mule to complete the
report that time. With repel to the ether portico earl
it would be costrary to rule to publish the paws
=hey bed been oreented to the house
TROOPS FOR INDIA.
VANSITTART asked tha Piendent of the Beard of
Control if her Muney's government intended to send out
any eddirkaal troops to Bombay and Madras, to supply the
place of the regisments despitched from those presidencies to
and the aorth-western
Mr. V. SMITH said that since the unfortunate occur-
rences In India the government bail rent out a regiment to
repine the cies wbk.h bed, upon the bunking out of the
Crimean war, besawitbdrawn from Madras. They had also
rent bar regiments to Point do Grille to rendezvous there,
end to be, Mute discretion of the Governer-General, sent
where most seeded. Besides this, the Ent India Company
had applied (sod the government Ind greeted the request)
to the government to and oat two reginents to the mesa.
deny ..f Modems and two to the president y of Bombeacay.
Thee bed also Nat out two companies of artillery to h
presidency.
THE CONSOLIDATION BILLS,
Mr. HARDY anal what course the preening intended
to pursue with regard to the Cunulidation Bills which had
come down from the other house, awd which stood on the
paper for second reeding P
Sir O. GREY said that the government had come to the
conclusion that it was importable that these bills could pas
through the bones without discussion, end the course which
they thought would be found the best would Le to read them a
second time, in order that they might be referred to s select
committee. As, however,
.it w.O impossible now to take that
course, the govessment did not intend to proceed with the
nreseneee dosing this ssena.
COMMITTEE ON THE OATHS.
Mr. NEWDZOATE celled attention to the bat that the
standing orders unwired. that a liet of ell 'mans^
=the sines or the members
be pried no in certain parts
remorked tit the committee on the subject wee to al
owtok spend meenbers, and all members who wen Mae.
berm of the leas cote. In this form the notice was peeled lip
New be desks/ to know whether the term " gondola!' ef
the long asks" hadaded banister* not in practice, sad OM
only way to which he emit dinner that wee by Pang a
seminal NApat of thethie amhosel the committee. He thine
bad enesika Anther or not the mune width
had been to
kilned In genie op settee of this committee was
"CrePIAIII nil OM the stending orders bed teen
theyes Er Is genillis. by printing the MUM IS
they beon piled. The enisuirlse manned of tango
lee asminated memben end aE the ratlines el the Hog
robe, sad it sammed le lies that el est as gudlie bad
hem dose in the seam cd the sesiestelinlehelet
COMMON-LAW COMMISSION.
We. WARREN aelisd whether the colonial/sere ap-
pellee' to Capin into the mode of sdruinienWg justke by
emir bad yet Nees thee report, and if re, whether any
gunseel inthesths mid be given as to the tenor of their
neenelesablidlikef
Ik J. PARUICITON said that the commission had
made he repels si it would probably Le produced in a few
dein That Wei the nee it would hardly be expedient to
osier tato then nesuniendatione at any length; but thee he
night say, that tbe cammissioners recommended • certain
eingetka of the wink* mein& (Deer, beer)
THE CHIMNEY-POTS OF SOMERSET-HOUSE.
Br. STAFFORD, he the skeet* of Visanst Ebriagtos,
rid the Mkt Cenekiessr d Weehe whelk" the sew
freeneed pert d
ilsnaammenesrit Irnsehmenbilsil esscetranurat they did
esower, mitelbur ems inksiel sabotitsle then for the
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OkE.
MALL said that his answer to the important
ituktka shad the ebioney-pots would be very wimple, and
it was Hat be weld not give an answer until mat
era" boom* then had not been as yet Plat dent time
hr Whig lie. Billing's invention. With regime to the
elleralions n St. James Palace, he had already stated that
waft *Who done without the sanction of parliament
awl he bee an to repeat that SMOSsitee. Directions had
bees rim kr thepreparadm oil piano, and when they were
metered they wouM be laid on the table
DUNBAR HARBOUR LOAN. BILL.
Bill reed a third time and passed._
THE QUEEN OF OUDE.
Sir F. KELLY pretested and reed the payer.~ of the peti-
tion of the Queen of Cede. whiell wee PsUdded n PAW'
day'a Doily New.
Ordered to lie oa the table.
DIVORCE AND MATRIMONIAL CAUSES BILL.
On the order for the committee, petitions against the MU
were premed by Laura Beaky, Oladatone, and B. Hoye.
Oa cisme 18,
Sir B. PERRY rid be had been startled by the declara-
tion of the noble lord at the had at the government, that
the *ley at the MU was be illecoarage judicial separations,
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▪ dhisses deeds. Re was by no means
I raw le lama dISISIS, sad Ibr purely meular moose It
bed skips bon O. pulley of Cbrietian Europe to
rawoke, while it had been extensively
by the Jews, who also perused polygamy.
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sold : "The bas use pdaysa and for one and the
Lela
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infOrei He absr hand, be the that as sews-
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a Liverpool magistrate, to the effect that wretched women
were daily coming before him stating that they could
support themselves and children, Healy protected from their
hisbaeda, who made a practice of seizing and selling what-
ever property they acquired. In short, there were many
wlece wbo were desirous of living with their hatbands, and
who could support boils them and their children, if they had
only mum legal protection fur their turnips.
Mr. MALINS objected to the tugether. It ws
monstrous to give • power of granting an injunctioan
to • jemmy, of the peace. In the hands of the Court el Chan-
etry.or the courts of common law, it wee unobjectionable.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL did nut think any one
could object to the wife leonine the right, after separation, to
property the product of her own labour.
he imienchnent was then withdrawn.
Dir. MIX DIMOND moved to insert in line 26 after the
word t• husband," the weeds, "or ha. been cruelly treated;"
the effect of which would be to extend the remedy to the wife
not only in cases of desertion, but in twee of ill-treatment.
The :11"f ORNEY-UENERAL opposed the amendment,
which woo negatived.
Sir J. Y. 11l LLER reeved that instead attic words " shall
apply to Rey puitice," the words "shall make application to
two or more justice. in petty redskin" should be oubeituted.
The AT waled that this clause had
been introdueed at the instance of a noble and learned lord
front motives of humanity and benevoence, but the machinery
deviwd for working out the principle laid down wee, he be-
lieved, iroproctieable. The only elternative, therefore, so it
appeared to him, was to adopt the view of the right hon.
gentleman the member for Oxford, and stake out the word,.
Ile should be glad to afford protection to the wives of per-
some of the humbler climes, but did not oee the means of
doing it with the machinery propuwd. He would mm-
weed thewi who hail amendments to the clause to withdraw
them, that the clause might be fur the present negatived,
but with the view of considering whether Rouse means
might not be adopted for effecting whet ho *duetted to be a
benevolent and desirable object.
Mr. HENLEY concurred with the Attorney-General that
the principle of the clause was moat humane, and ho was not
rout; ; but the
hope that ironies means might be devised for currying
it attempt to emend this clause was simply ins-
possible. His own experience taught him that nothiug was
more difficult than to determine what was desertion. What
means had the megistrute of arriving at what the kind
meaning of desertion ? In the eceluelaethal law
he believed " deeertion" was no offence—(" Hear, hear,"
from the Attorney-General)—eau that they had no text book
to go upen. This was an objection in lituine. Ile would
throw out for the consideration of the Attorney-General,
whether much good would not be done, and the object of the
clause effected, by giving the woman, in case of the desertion
of her husband, the remedy, es regarded the protection of
het earning. and property, by application to the county
court. (Hear, hear.) The county courts were tribunals at
every melee door, and if the judge in his decision should
happen to make a mistake as to what amounted to legal
desertion, no harm would be done, whereas if the niagistrate
htippeeed to make a mistake, he would be liable to action
after Nolen, and might be subjected to heavy penalties.
Mr. AYRTON thought from the language of ministers
on the previous night, that they were to have " the bill, the
whole tell, and nothing but the bill"—(sheen)—but now
it appeared the committee were mewed to freedom of de-
motion an all the dawn—(heer, bear)—and the first clause
they came to they found was not an exposition of the genii •
meats of the government, but something that had been put
into the bill at the instance of somebody else. He wanted to
know what the Attorney-General meant by the expression,
"the clause would be struck out for the present," and what,
supping that he intended to carry out the object of it by
some other mean., was the remedy he intended to sub-
etitute ? (Hear, hear.) The remedy must be given to the
wipe generally,, for It was impereible the liberal members
couldallow • bll to pass which constituted a court that
afforded a remedy to the rich alone. (Hear.) The govern-
ment declared that their object was to extend to the poor the
benefit which the rich alone could now command, but the very
first clause they came to that provided a really cheap remedy
the Attorney-General struck out. (Hear.) He thought
they ought to devise seine tribunal foe the poor man who
lived in Yorkshire nearer than Loudon.
Mr. BLAKEMOItE trusted that the Attorney-General
and Solicitor-General would apply their minds to the devising
of a practical remedy to the evil which this claws was in-
tended to meet. If it was thought that the impossibility
was too great for an ordinary magistrate, let the jurisdic-
tion vest in the chairman or vire-chairman of Quern
Seabees, or the whole body of magistrates miuiag atl4ettg.
sessions or get eral seesiooa—but he *seed le
to the county ataxia
Mr. NAI'IER regretted that the know -Gensrel pro-
posed to abandon this clause, which he eamidanni or of the
best in the bill. There wen, no peewee wee deserving of
sympathy and protection than pow .arid wows, who,
being deserted by their boatloads, Wiggled to support
themselves and their families by_ the mom& of thee ems
industry. (Hear, hear.) Nor could he logics a more Meg
or more accessible tribunal foe abiding that protection than
the load magistrate. (lieu, bear.) They wee building
up by • great number of claws, whet, se kr se the
great body of the people were weeersed, yea atm
all an unapproachable -*Abend ; but when they wine
to • proposal whereby • limp* Weepiest», sad easy
remedy wee
.gieen to those who most needed preleetion, ft
was shwdwed. He then& to withdraw this dews, be-
came of somas diMealty la the machinery which might be
fang, would he • reproach spa the goesonmeat.
.GRAHAM awed with Mr. Awe= and Mr. Na-
pier that the principle of this 17th claws was valuable, if
they could make it effective ; bat there he speed with the
Attorney-General and Mr. Gladstone, That the machinery
provided was not calculated for its parries, nor weltt swe
ep.
tittle of amendment with any chews of making effective.
He did not consider it wooM be right to glee such • power
to • single magietrate, ce even to two jestiow
petty seseione. But he would suggest to the conimittee that
a very small extension of claws Id would be an immense
Improvement to that clause, and et thesametinte glee elect to
that which It was deeiredbythis 17thditoose to aocomplish. He
would insert the weed maize' in the 18111 clause, making
it extend to carmine as well as property, end he would ex-
tend the power which was given by that claws to the Court
in London, to the county courts. Thus the county courts
would have jurisdiction to protect the women both in regard
to proerty and earnings. (Hear, hear.)
Mr.-HENLEY misted thee then yea so class of caws
with which the country magidretee had to did, so difficult
as those of desertion. Ifs man left his wife and family and they
became chargeable to the pariah, the pariah enthrals, were
sure to press upon the megistrates to rend the men to gaol
for the desertion, though Is might have gone away with
the view of seeking employment. Nothing was so difficult
for the magiotrate as to determine in much oases whether the
man was doing his duty or nut, and it would be moat unwise,
he thought, to met on them the responsibility of deciding in
cases arm* under this claw.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL as the committee
that he had no Intention of abandoning the remedy which
was embodied in the claws ; but be wee anxious that the
other clauses should be affirmed before lee suggested the'
mesas by which the principle of the dense should be mulled
into elect. If the Wooreittee would do him the favour to
accept the pledge which be now gave, that this
should not be the last time whew the subject
should be height before Use.,
but that smeary and a full
opportunity sistald be given Inc the conehiersdon sad die-
cussion of the 'abject, he would wadable, the clause, and
endeavour to frame it in such a meow sa he hoped would
be better for its purposed protecting the interests of
the humbler .esst.
Sir E. PERRY accepted the wauence ea satidactory,
but expensed en erliegen thet the Pieties of the peace was
the mly UMW that weld gin ileillidadoo relief. The
county-sentledp 'sly MOO& Miellik.MWEil would occa.
elan a delay thetimisbe be Nimbi earl great her=aaal
injustice. la die ewe s oft robe bed beat a
year, If dowses snowed to petitks oe ratentroeurt Judge or
:fat:: the court in Laden the tem* would probably be
t.

Sir J. Y. BULLER withdrew his massimast.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL. him* It Yr. Collide,
stated that hs would Wag ug the dimeresal to alb-
stitute br the our mks —amass la SD that
it might be fully dfswamsd. He y should
be pa by new et the Waft aele br andsgs and
re NOW ihresma. He would conaolidats
17a dal IMIt &ma , rad Lave the committee
to dial Wilt Swim
Ahura kw wade from Mr. WARREN,
The dame vac put and negatived.
Maw ana toad lb
021 oboVle IS, wialirr a esgarados on the put
of ths vits am assent
Mr. BUTT mrsti be weed " aert " the
words " CC dm witalgeoust dam digist lawlish be sr oho
roam" fwd ea Ole entabaent label
by
miss of inta Name le la dub with by
• way dlr. la date by
woad a
away for thi.e% aae deallan by tle babied.
Hitherto ta law had ginablal aa away for dartioe oda
iwelle=by a amodual rights is ths
court Writo
s. Tim ngitly two other mow
dies by which • dealid valb add ails cedar Ma her
behead, but they ape alba earilse. la the tat
via if • wife wee bybar beim/ alba maga the
=throw andles amp ea I hot k, WIN eta
to cabbala a bar ad boa dm
ambreva by Lir dumb I:llrilrigagene et midair their
Man& earifew einerma, HOW a vilb ("Wipe any
ea to eagget ha lir pima m webablag her
bed • right et alba wart the hainad, and
Zt as t Mgr. abarie aims deem. Mr an Pe-
- decided by awl the
other was deoldsd by a anist Rd lie the
meaty teat, the very,%willb be alba glue the
awe, ed idading • fla Hie alb He coal sot
card beat hicittlf bialat ea iha wider To,'
dos alathar rabies 4116 ibiabi Imadtalaimored by
cas elated ca marl a bog lamb ; on the ultimate
bailie dirk wealiaa It wall doped whether an
was lobe mod idea ea aabelleatioa. The MR tweluded
=We dblinet=aeleamazherislTlN=gbat sa:feo.:.......zztofj=one
boa local lelbanit; all Oa saw at the girls(
a this wpm, land pwar iseeleag
la the wail mil la at tamer wilds they woreTeilr
Wad by ibileglaila, had be van at bed agate hi.
mac tad lbw gram bed sot lea bade' is sauna
Ilia lib esabelniwised to be ica and
nit gal II did ad pupa mailb alb Ewa Is•
jai kit geeing ea yaw a MMUS, Oast&
Om jr II*? he bed had so
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tie potesial to area spiel the system d ossitrenes.—
which was involved in the preemies' al the bill,
sod urged that it would be better, if the adminhe
mention of the local courts were defective, to reform
them, than to take away their jorisdiction. The amend-
mint directly tubbed the gneatione of centraluotion and local
administrations. There were at preterit about 50 local courts
siiininiefering • cheep and cosy remedy to nay wife injured by
the smelly of her Inetband, by affording bee a judicial wept-
teflon and ahuony ; and for dime courts were eubmituted a
centre] court sitting in London, or perbga not strictly iu
London, but in London ur Middles s, or wherever deo her
Majesty might appoint. By this bill you gave faci-
lities for divorce, but you placed obstacles in the
way of separation (hear beer) --and it should be
remembered that separative was especially the reining
of the woman es divorce was that of the man. If they were
to raise the question, then he was prepared to say that we
ought, in place of the local tribute& which it woo propmed
to abolish, to mete others of a better kind. What was the
remedy proposed by the bill ? If a husband disci-led his
wife fur two years, or without reasonable encore, you for the
first time gave her the power to obtain a separation or
divorce, and that being en, to rend a poor woman to the
central court was a mere mockery, fur a deserted woman
implied a woman in poverty end distrese end rho onglit to
have the resdisit end the cheapest reiliedy instead of a
moat difficult end expensive one. Were the queetions is-
volved in this remedy so &filet& that the county musts
could not deal with or decide them ? Ilkianswer to that wee'
that the county court. now dealt with end decided ell the
questions raised in this very proceeding, for if an action was
brought for the maintenance of • delorted wife, all the ques-
tions involved in this provision of the bill might be and were
raised and dealt with 6y the county courts over and over
again. Ile thought, therefore, that there could not bo any
objevlion to giving the powers he exited to the county courts,
but at the rune time he was aware the his sineniumeit raieed
the question whether, with regard to the other matters con-
tained in the bill, them ought not to belated tribunals.
Mr. PACER was not prepared to di agree with the him.
and learned gentleman with regard to having keel tribunal,.
to aceomplinh the objects of the bill, but mod my that,
living as he did in s largo and peplum, district, where the
county courts worked well in the recovery of smell debt., he
thought it was imposibte for the judge. of these courts to
have this additional duty cast upon them.
Mr. DRUMMOND said the hon. and learned gentleman
(Mr. Butt), approving of the principle of the bill, took ad-
vantage of the courts which already existed to extend its
operation; but the bon. gentlemen (Mr. Paulo) weined to
wish that 11101110 ether local tribunal@ should be created. Surely.
it was better to take advantage of them which already ex-
isted, than to set about to create new ones.
Lord J. MANNERS said it was his intention to have
added words to the clause which should have allowed judicial
separations by other courts beelike the county courts. Ilisi
intention was, if the amendment of the hon. and learned
gentleman was auccemful, to have moved the ineertion of
words carving it still further; or if the hon. and learned
gentleman a amendment foiled, to propane weeds which would
establish some courts of local jurisdiction.
The ATTORNEY-OENICRAL mid he was aware of the
necessity of rendering applientione for esperstiorut of thin sort
se little expensive as potaible. But this demo might involve
queationi of the !Welted importance, becauee, supposing a
wife or a husband permuted a petition, the question would
aria whether the desertion well without ressineble excuse.
Now ono of the excuses might be adultery. Every ground of
separation or divorce might become matter of riontroverry,
Suppose an application in the first instance for ajudiciel
equation, and on grounds which afterwards involved en
application for divorce ; how difficult it was to say the &d-
-eem of the inferior tribunal was to be slighted and disregarded
by the 'wrier tribunal, and therefore it seemed to him un•
advisable to give power to an inferior tribunal to try the very
questions which might have to be tried by a euperior one.
That might enable parties to have a precedent diecuesion by
way of precognition of questions which must come before the
angrier tribunal. Ile thought that the hon. and learned
gentleman bad better guard his amendment by making it
rptiT only to judicial separation on grounds which would
an involve an imuo which would he a sufficient ground fur
64 divorce. Ito would accept the amendment to the extent
ititing the county courts power to adjudicate in came of
separation, whowver ouch a_
.arntion was sought
ea grounds which did not involve a final divorce.
Lord J. MANNERS wished to ask the Attorney-Cieneral
hew the clump, ae he proposed to neon it, would he in
Wien with the fith clause, which nodal over all ion
meta to the sew court which was to be unglitated?
Lord J. RUSSELL wished to ask a emits die LS-
koviey-Graoral, for this proposal led to no eariontlia et
• most important question. The cal 7 rutin are amelar
of the 19th claw* was that bairn ball an Ina •
mast of divorce u nand dMe lit me d r num
ice Pita sewn= nu an MIA i• lot bM, r the law
an mot alters* la Oat otgantAminktpule7 4 the her
bad to the with. 111, as no Manarmmena stated is the
inn se prawn to boa maiel, spar meld Le gives to
is sow* mat to deal nit Pail sipolata. that Mire
mod* lannwor to ilaihrimod=rhich under
the pun in was • aim The prie-
d* ea the lam edlmmsi iminoa moreond
vas a put em asasty, dal brig illnloned the local
emarte, there should not la a Imola ol Se whole juristic-
lion in matters of this kind tea anal eon% but that some
equivalent should he gives, and that a wile should have a
local remedy against • hoslunit If that was no, the amend-
ment of the bon. and lean/ patlema had a wider scope
than appeared oa the fen of the dame, far the county courts
might, under It, deal with all owes of julkial eoperstion. Ile
&oiled the Attorney-General to state if it was only
adultery which Men to be excluded traa the purview of the
county courts? Ile would not now eater into the question
whether the county courts were the peeper tribunals to deal
with questions of this sort, or whether- they ought not to be
made so. _ .

Lord LOVAINE said It appeared to him that the clause
was destroyed if adultery as a eases fur judicial separation
was ousted • for if a woman came into the county court for a
judicial aeiaration, the hatband had only to alk-ge adultery
ea the excuse for desertion, and she had no groundo to go
upon.
Sir E. PERRY said that the reluctance of the Attorney-
General to admit; the amendation was founded on
his unwillingnees to give the county cow& power to deal
with questions which were to be tried by the central court.
But the county courts, now had jurisdiction in there matters,
for en action for neceseariee eupplied to a wife might be met
by the plea of adultery. If tho amendment was accepted you
must go further, and allow the county courts to deal with
separation in all cases, except where the court had to decide
cm the question of Anal separation. Ile felt great reluctance
to give the power to the county courts to dissolve marriages,
but for all other grievance the poorer clawed ought to have
access to the county courts. He hoped that the Attorney-
Genera, as he had made a concestion este part of the amend •
went, would concede the whole.
Mr. GLADSTONE rid that it wee most important well
to consider the principle now before the committee, and cope-
cially... many different views had been taken of it. 'I ho
principle of the noble lord (Lord I. Road), and more other
members, was that you ought to continue the (militia* which
had hitherto existed for obtaining judicial separation. But,
to his surprise and regret, the noble lord at the head of the
government but night had announced a very different doc-
trine, end said that he wait opposed to giving facilities for
judicial separation, and that he was of opinion that
married persons thould only have the choice between con-
tinuing to bear their sufferings at home, and the extreme
remedy of a dissolution of their marriage. He was glad to
find that the Attothey-General did not adhere to the extreme
principle enunciated by the noble lord, for ha rid that he
war &spatial to give facilities to judicial reparation, with
went qualification.; and so for as that could be dune without
danger to public morality. Ile (Mr. Gladstone) did not fear
any danger to public morality from the increase of
such facilities, for there were very few cameo in which
corrupt motives influenced persons seeking judicial separation.
He assumed that it Wall the desire of the committee to main-
tain the existing facilities for obtaining judicial separation,
and he returned his theater to the hon. and learned member
for Youghal for having devised a method of raising a ques-
tion which they bad hitherto found it as impotrable for them
to get ideas it would be hereafter for poor people to get at
the mistral court of divorce. The Attorney-General was
daipeeed to gas to • certain length with the hon. and learned
member for Youghal ; but he objected to the county courts
havingpower to meddle with midterm which might come to be
treated -lathe central court, or to touch the question of divorce
i vinculo matrimonii. Thera might be tome force in that
objection, but it should be recollected that the very state of
things which the Attorney-General deprecated now existed
in the cocketastieal court, which handled the question of
divorce which was subsequently to be dealt with by the
flame of Lorda. He did not theaters see the force of the
objection of the Attorney-Gemeral. Let him point out what
• difficulty and what an anomaly would follow the adoption
of the proposal of the Attorney. General. Tho propteed
amendment must carry with it as a certain coorequenee that
the claws would not be confined to cases of judicial
tion for &milieu only, but to all other eases for which judicial
eeparation was obtainable. The Attorney-General iilloliell
and gavurisdiction to local tribunal. only with the limita-
tions whii he had stated. But, then, suppling the county
courts had power to deal with all cafes except thaw nurttere
which were connected with divorce " a 'Weide matrimouii,"
what would be the conarquecce ? Bader the bill the slid-
tery of the wife enabled tU husband to present e petition for
a divorce " i vincido matrimonii;" but the wife could not
peewit • petition for a divoree " 1 vinculo" en iteyount of
the lottery of the beamed. Now, so the adultery of the
kaahmul was not a grand al divorce " i triactilo by the
with tie had •stlish:l.. to the county
adultery;
for a judicialjudicial
serialise la the of her hutband'e but the
Mimi met rto the cousty court for a juthrial onr
remilea as So airmail at adultery by hie wife, he that
was a sabre which ad ght came before the central COllll en a
pees der a divorce " a vireo isieimaii."
Mr. WIORAM said the rum lame wee havoirod in the
10th clan. a• In the Itlth, and se the Nth het leen wit-
posed be suggested that the Ifith should be poetion,l also, in
aria that the Mterwayeemeral nee give them more illa-
tive anikhrattes.
Mir W. MILTHOOTZ wide was mom desirable to el NllO 10
Dom vitilwelmied as to the pelnelple on which the Attor-
ney-Hewn me primedlie, INA $o savirtaia whether he ex-
tend* la Melt na lawless of driesem le ender lila .ilije,--
OM te uses et sailry that riga a beidmodry. Ile
(86 eW. Mailemle three It mei lie undesirable to ex -
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Otto denciptioth etwenqiated by thin bill frequently occu-
pied days, and yet It was provided to send thou, before courts
which were already overburdened with business. He trusted
the Attorney-General would not consent to have anything to
do with the county court..
Lord GODElitlell unshed to know, auppicing desertion
to be eitublithed, whether the hatband might not be able to
plead adultery, and tbud oust the wife of her remedy in the
county court ?
Mr. EWART wan desirous of knowing bow far the bill
contemplated the grunting of an itinerary power to the court.
Mr. COLLINS hoped the hon. and learned :needier for
Toughed wood not cement to the limitation suggested by
the Attertev-General.
Mr. BUTT mid he understood the Attorney-General to
ray he Ind nu objection to the county court giving a judicial
reparation, but that in the event of any cue erieiog fur • su-
perior court the kernel*, ion if the interior court should made.
But abet objection coetilthere bete the county court determin-
ing whether a wife had committed adultery or not ? The
Homo of Lords would nut entertain such CAPP* until they
had been Wore an inferior court. Ile did not see any die"-
cully in entrmting the jurisdiction to the county courts, and
if they wire net tit to entertain ouch questions, let them be
improve.' we as to make them properly qualified. The clause
woo now linty Lao* the committee, and he treated it would
not I.e ',umpired. If the Attorney-General thought it &-
nimble to place any restriction on the county courts, there
would be no difficulty in adding a proviso fur that purpose.
'rho ATTORNEY-Ci EN ERAL could not consent to the
postponement of the datum. The question for the consider-
ation of the committee was this—ought the county court to
be armed with authority not only to the extent now possessed
by the Concheory Court of Loudon, of decreeing divorce
A inentii ct them, lot in cute of desertion. Divorce A mewed
et there ad. granted ou the ground of cruelty and adultery.
lho bill propped to introduce a new principle, namely, de•
eertion. Now whilst 110 entirely agreed in the expediency of
inverting load tribunals with all the authority that was
required for the administration of justice in matters of neces-
sity, he del not think they ought to be intrusted with
matters which did not require to be dealt with in
that expeditious and summary manner which was
requieito in lima of debt. The county court jurisdiction
wee limited to dill meters, but it was now proposed to
authorise them to detemiine matters of the most deli-
cate nature, not only requiring a considerable knowledge of
law, but great judieul ability. He did not think the county
courts a tilting tribunal for the decision of such eases. The
eulject oar ono requiring very grave consideration. Did
thew bon. gentlemen who advocated the county courts sup-
pose they were capable of becoming orderly, decent, grave
euidembher, like the courts of justice with which they were
familiar P If so, tiny were greatly miataken. if the question
was pimply desertion continued fur two years, which was
sec notonous no to require no judicial invotigstion, there
would be no difficulty, but when the question arum whether
desertion 'PPP without reumableexcuse, it involved the whole
range of inquiry, and introduced an issue which
could not be properly decided by such a tribunal. Of course
he should how to the decided" ref the committee, but if they
determined that these niettere should be within the cognisance
of there local tribunate the whole subject of judicial equa-
tion must he brought within the mope and orbit of their
ppiAietion. The question now before the committee was
one on which a decision must be taken, and he Leered they
would at mire proceed to a division.
Mr. BUTT said that if the committee should determine
in favour of local tribunal., the clause might be so worded as
to limit their operation.
Mr. DRUMMOND said that in the amendment which
ho had proposed he exenipted permit* of rank and property,
sgsinat which exemption the Attorney-General protested. The
proposition now before the committee madeno duitiotion, and
the bon. rend learned gentleman objected to that. lie (Mr.
Drummond) certainly did believe at one time that the govern-
ment were eineertly desirous of giving • boon to the middle
and lowa chimes. Ho now confessed him folly and deep
repentance, and promised never to believe them again.
(laughter.)
Mr. AYRTON said it was roost desirable that the com-
mittee should understand that they were about to divide on
the simple principle whether the county warts eheuld have
this jurisdiction or not. If that principle should be affirmed,
it would devolve on the Attorney-General to frame such
clause. u would cozy out that neiple.
Lord J. MANNERS trust the amendment would be
put to the committee in such • form that all who we*, fa-
vourable to local jurisdiction would be able to vote for it,
because many hon. members were favourable to local juris-
diction who did not think county. courts a fitting tribunal.
He would, therefore, Bugged the emotion of the words,
"say mart that may hereafter be authorised by tide act."
Mr. BUTT raid he would accept the proposition, and
withdrew his amendment.
Mr. MALINS objected to the withdrawal of the amend-
ment, and *misted on having the decision of the committee
ma to county courts.
Mr. BUTT mid, as the hon. and learned member objected
to the withdrawal of the amendment he would ask the com-
mittee to negative it. (t. Bear," and laughter.) His object
was to raise the question of local jurisdiction. The hon. and
learned member could prevent him from withdrawing the
amendment, but he could not compel him to veto for it
(laughter)—and be hoped that every hon. member who wee
favourable to the establithment of locel junadiction would
vote against the amendment. (Laughter.)
After a few words from Mr. HESLES.
The amendment wan put and negatived.
Lord J. MANNERS then proposed to insert the words
"or any court authorised by this act."
Sir G. GREY caked what court it was that was meant.
The committee had just unanimourly rejected the proposition
that it about() be the county court, and had thereby rejected
the only coot. available.
Lord J. MANNERS raid the amendment of Mr. Butt
was to give jurisdiction, and, to his mop-ride the Attorney-
Gamma tartially accepted the principle of local jurisdiction,
but said he wished to put certain restrictions upon it. A long
debate srose upon that question; many gentlemen said they
were in favour of local jurisdiction, but were not in favour
of that particular curt. If they did not have courts
of local jurisdiction, it certainly appeared to him that they
were going to commit a grievous inmate* upon the less
wealthy deuce of the community. That being so, be pro-
posed this amendment, which would leave it open to the
government, if they were sincere in their deed* to earry out
the proven' of the hon. and learned gentleman, to frame
eleven m the bill to meet the general &the for courts of
local jurisdiction. It was very important that the people in
the country should not be deprived of the courts with local
jurisdiction that they had now. He wished to test the
opinion of the committee as to whether they were or were
not favourable to local courts. If the committee thought
that the court should be central, and, in the words of the
Attorney-General, the rank, wealth, and social poultice of
the nuitors should be regarded, then let them vote against the
amendment and pass the bill, which would then be a boon to
the rich, but would afford no relief to the poorer clams
Sir G. GREY said, the noble lord had not even shadowed
out what description of court it was that he wished to mita-
, blink. The government entirely disclaimed all responsi-
bility ea to the establishment of them new meets. They had
I unanimously negatived the proposition ea to the county
courts, and then to make this proposition, without stating
what was the nature of the local jurisdiction, was, he must
say, avery shabby course of proceeding. (Loud cries of
" Oh',)
Mr. DI:TT said he knew the right hon. bdonet was
incapable of doing anything unfair, but he thought it would
have been more fair if his obeervatione had been addressed
to him before he withdrew his amendment, became If the
withdrawing the proposition as to the county courts was to
lead to their having no local court* Le would have gone to
a division upon it. Wes there anything shabby in that P
Was there anything shabby in !saying that he objected to
the jurisdiction being entirely in the central court, and that
it should be in courts hereafter to be established P lie was
perfectly ready, if the Attorney-General would not, to
draw up clauses which would carry out the amendment.
He could conceive clauses giving part of the jurisdiction
to the courts of maize and part to the quarter sessiond,
and that would give pert, with great advantage, to the
1 county courts.
Sir G. GREY laid the hon. and learned gentleman had
pursued a straightforward mune. He said he was ready to
bring up dames giving part of the jurisdiction to the court
of amine, part to the quarter sessions, and pert to the county
court. Let them see those dames before they agreed to the
amendment. What he objected to was inserting words of
thiekind, throwing the responsibility of the matter upon
government.
Sir I. PAKINGTON molested against the unnecessary
warmth of the dnieuedion. He did not think the course
taken by his noble friend could properly be characterised
ss ebabby.
Sir G. GREY observed that he need that word in the
heat of debates and he now withdrew it. (Hear.)
Sir J. I'AK IN GTON said the house bad decided against
conferring jurisdiction on the county courts. Then his
noble friend Raked them to confer it on courts which had no
exidtenee. He wee in favour of the principle of local juris-
diction ; but es they had decided against the county courts,
and there were no other courts, there was a difficulty.
Sir W. lIKATIICOTE did lot Pee why they should re-
frain from amerling the winciple because they had not the
&Italia before them. Whether it should be the court of
!WOW, or whether, as had been usefully euggeeted by the
lion. member for Dumfries, they should have a court conga-
ing of one or morejadges emanating from the court of Lon-
don, end visiting the ration, puts of the country, it did not
memo to I*. to nereanary to deride at that moment.
10. - Mr. 11 I.ItI said the complaint wee that the noble lord
loot not defined exactly the kind of courts to be established.
They were going to sweep away courts which did four-tenths
of the truaincea, end they provided no substitute.
The ATTOItNBY-GENEItAL said the tion of
the noble lord was this " Any husband or wife may present
• petition to the maid court Sc to Court.' To a
court, he know not what, which was hereafter to be consti-
tuted. Del any one ever hear of mob a proposition before?
A too.. wtelwitous print of the ability of the noble lord in
Mulerehip lie ,eilikl not roneeive. They were just about to
lobo a vote on the quotient of the coenty court, the noble
lord lurid nit This creation of his, the hon. and Irma gen-
-411111111 fell in lOVO with it and sus 1 his own child. If
the noble lonl hail brought forward Wel doOnii• amadosat
they would have known what le de with
water tloce eirionetenera the big Maths wee to peethedUlV
reneethtog ribetantial.
Mr. DISRAELI mid the diUloftlalobich the noble
lord ass plead Might speedily he by • yob TM&
W. 01141 give hies a najority. Urs rte moo W•
niejoily the difficulty would Ma&
*.ismad Ilia loot
J imphietry should Ira esoo quollo• 10100
them. it wee vetoer/ diode lona keel Malts
or not. Tiwy biles of •••••••• • pdritle
width he Wins& tarAleteritio, as 4 ow Is
poi* of ego goodly mu

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Lord J. RUSSELL said, whatever diffkulty he might
have in voting for the amendment, he felt much grouter
difficulty in voting for the Manes ea it stood. When the hon.
and learned member far Yeughal moved to give jurisdiction
to the county courts, the Attorney-General psrtiolly assented
to the proposal, and it was not till some time after that I
made the objections that he did This clause proposed that
juditial separation should take place only on petit ihn to the
central court, and thereby they would for ever destroy sea
part with the local tribunal.. Whatever proposal would to
made hereafter would be matter for consideration If them
lurid tribunals could be found, it would afterwanlo be mm-
priori for them to strike out the words to be flow inserted.
Ile thought they ought to make room attempt not to dent
all these court., became whatever benefit might be deri
from the other parts of the bill, this would he a great injury.
He should be sorry to emeut to thin clause, emoting that
these la al courts should be destroyed, and that no eultelitat
Lion should Le made for them.
The committee then divided
For the amendment

Again. it
This remelt was received with loud cheers, and
The ileum was then agreed to.
On clause, 20 " Decree* of reparation in the absence of the
wife or husband may be reversed,"
Mr. LYGON asked whether any means were provided
for putting an end to the state of iudieial separation
movedt
hztimet
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that every judieiel
separation might be terminated at once by the ameeineat
the puller, in the same manner that divorees a men. et M.
might at present be put an end to.
The clause was then agreed to.
On clause 21 ea to alimony,
leave nut the fleet line sod
Illewreedr.cDaßandjl
:tioctiiEn)s;:v.pr t
order of alimony, and it shalt also." The hon. gentle.
was unwilling to leave a matter of this kind to the option of
the cowl.
The ATTORNEY-GENF:UAL said there might be alai
of judicial separation in which the wife would have no tight
to alimony at all—.e for iustenee,where the husband was Ms
suitor, or where the wile had a large separate awe. The
eleuse a., therefore, better ait mood ; but it would, of
course, be the duty of the court, where the wife was the ins.
cent party, and was not otherwise provided fur, to order bee
proper alimony.
Mr. DRUMMOND had Men no many decisions by which
the unfortunate wife had been left to starve, that be di: not
think the question whether alimony was tube greeted should
be left to the judge. Of course the court might award what
tutu it pleased ; it might give the NOM:la sixpence in the
caws pointed out by the hon. and learned gentleman.
Mr. HENLEY was afraid the amendment would rather
prejudice than improve the position of the wife, and
Mr, DRUMMOND withdrew his motion.
The cherse was then pawed.
Clauses 22 and 23, " A wife divoned menses et Mom to
be considered as to property a frame sole," and "Alen for the
purpose of staking contracts or suing," were agreed to.
Oa clause 24,
Mr. GLADSTONE said the clause only provided Met
parties who had been judicially separated. but who had mesa
together again' might Mule a declaration to that effect to bl
tiled. Would it not be better to make it imperative epee
them to record in some formal manner the but of their ra
entering into the full married state ? lie could crannies it
possible that if the matter were left optional, the parties,
though ewe:wiled, might find it cony, Meet to paten e the
data of
)judicial separation ea a bar to the rights of at.
aloes. Hear, bear)
Kr. A AMS said the language of the claire must be
=and to suit the decision the committee bad just come to.
DU the Attorney-General intend to accept that decision, and
femme the =weary clam. b o,eelf? (Hear, hear.)
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL was care the committee
would agree with him that common courtesy demanded that
be should wait to see what the noble lord (Lord J. Manners)
weeald propose. The noble lord was in a Mate of geetation—
Oenghter)—and he (the learned gentleman) would wait and
ass what sort of offspring, by the obstetric aid of the hon.
Umber for Toughs], ho would bring forth. (laughter.) Till
be knew the nature of the procedure the noble led intended
propose he could not possibly determine on the language
et the clause ' • but he would promise that when the commit-
tee had gone through the bill he would nuke ell such alter.
Mow in its wording ea might then become necessary
Mr. GLADSTONE expressed his disappointment that the
hen. sad learned gentleman should say he was unable to
devise any machinery to curly out the amendment adopted
by the committee. The bill destroyed a local juriedietice,
and it was the duty of the framers to find • substitute. If
the hon. and learned gentleman would put a baled kh
Isergy and activity to work all the difficulttea would mail.
Lord J. MANNERS said the government had, in tbeeim
ef the Probate Bill, fully accepted the decision of the ham
with regard to local jurisdiction, and there was no nese
why they should not follow the same course in the preset
ere. It was the duty of the government to prepare dame
to carry out the views of the huuae.
Sir E. PERRY said the amendment had been =pc=
' by both sides of the house, and he trusted the Amway.
General would give way and frame clauses to carry tat
There was no chance of new court. being established, od
the county courts were the only ones the poor could get&
Mr. HENLEY wished to know what would be the coi-
tion of parties who signed the declaration. Were they le
remain with all the convenienzes of man and wife ha or
mime' and without the inconvenience in another? Weed.
property to be separated whilst their persons were united t
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the claw assist
in the bill as otiginally introduced, but had been added by
noble and learned lord. The effect, as he undoretootip
that when &judicial separation took place, the after-
property of the wife became her separate property, and he
parties came together again it would be affected by say bra
of hers, and her creditors would have a remedy again=
There was some difficulty, however, in construing the clesia,
when taken In conjunction with the 22nd.
Sir F. KELLY said these clauses introduced entirely se
principles. By the 22nd clause, when a sentence of leper
tion was pronounced the property of the wife was to be mell•
dared as that of a femme sole, but if the parties came together
again, the 24th clause would produce the greatest camphor
tion. He trusted that his hon. and learned friend
consider this subject and be prepared to state his opinion at
a future stage. He (Sir F. (telly) wished to call .1•
tention to a matter of very great importance, viz., the eget
of the resolution lately come to by the committee. Ile eat-
sidered it woe incumbent on the government to give effect to
that resolution. The bill was of greater importance tothe pea'
tical administration of justice than say which had meek-
fore the house in his time, and it was incumbent on the go.
vernment who had charge of it, and who introduced chasm
totally unprecedented, to devise the machinery to carry it on.
He was sure the majority of the house would never consul
to give the county courts the power of pronouncing a anted
of judicial separation, and it was necessary to devise one
scheme by which justice could he administered by led
courts, as decided by the committee. He thought sal
plan might be devised by which a man might get a anomie
at the expense of a few shillings or so, and have the cm
come before the court of =Wes, or in email matters ten
the quarter sessions, and in still smaller the petty Mika
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the task impceedn
him was a herd one. The committee had refused to grant the
jurisdiction to the only local marts in exietenre, and they
now called on him to find others. He understood the be.
and learned member for Youghal to offer to prepare chaff
and be would be ready to give them his beet cunsidtratiM
and every assistance in hie power.
Mr. A. STAFFORD wee not satisfied with the Anomie
General's explanation. After the decision of the ma.r
the government should either have withdrawn the bllea
have at once undertaken to prepare clauses to carry oat to
wishes of the committee. Instead of listening to the eaw
of midwife metaphors of the Attorney-Generale they me,
to take steps to carry out their decision. If they adopted
the course suggested by the Attorney-Geneml they 101 l
allow the bill to peas through committee, in order to tolt
the discussion all over again.
Mr. CLAY thought that hon. gentlemen who were appal(
to this bill seemed not only deeiroue of having their
ce
way, but of having that way in their own manner. ft
thought that the course proposed by the Attorney-Gown
was a very fair and convenient one.
Mr. MALINS asked what would be Me effect of the 220
and 24th clauses, in the case where declaration woe se
made until after the part= had cohabited for some time.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL mid that his opinion es,
that this claw* was at variance with the 22nd clause, ro
he should therefore propose to negative it.
Mr. AYItTON apprehended that the omission of this • red
clause would not free this question from difficulty. le its
he believed that the bill would lead to endless =SW
unless the 22nd clam* as well WU. 21th were got nail or
Mr. GLADSTONE thought that some assurance Mad
be given that the government would give effect to the dwint
of **committee. lie should like to know whether /0
Butt intended to prepare clauses.
Mr. BUTT explained that he bad said that if the govt.
ment did not, be would prepare clauses to meet the 110:
lion of the comtuittee. He had not, however, volunteered'
take the matter mat of the hands of the government. BBat,
the Attorney-Oonend desired it, he would undertake after
drawee sad submit them to the Attorney-Gcneral.
Mr. ESTCOU la inquired whether Mr. Butt tad
particular court in his eve with reference MU= eierell,
Mr. BUTT felt aUala difficulty in an thlairt_,
But for his own part, ea at peesent advised, ha
any objection to the county court. If, however, satr,!_dl*
lion should be made patent to him, there Werall....
courts.
The clan,, was negatived.
On claw 26,
Mr. DRLMMOND thought this the most imp.l
clause of the bill, sad in reference tu it he stated WO
that there should be perfect equality as to the
divorce between male. and feinales. Ile reminded Ike
that the law of this country:were very stringall Ira;
women, and the impression in Engiiii
was that =chastity in man was ss
while It was a heavy sin on the part of a female. e
Leer! it said that adultery_ was a diselution of merrisfa
that were so he should like to rte how may eiti,
that 'boom were actually at that mom=
(Laughter.) Has. membess were aware that is dfts
adultery tit= whe ask= what punishment wes_fil
award= to an adultness who was taken in the ack 1271.,
that they who wee without do amongetdhesti wee
a none at bar. In &condense with this divine 1
he asked that the females might be Pala,_ I.
same footing as the =dos. lie therefore ntomdt
to leave oat thewsed " Inontoone nisi°
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shirr wee mer reedset arm* re thee
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war •• Ism let the ab IMO
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moth Ofitaftes‘, be arraM net ares wide We dr
it re le erthi point of view, is sermie el ihe
reseeekkdike Write ef the sighs err ihe re
ess lON MO ark& re wart kik erg * iiir
at. ewes kiln lee Ibsen le tremor eilldi Wen ;ilea
le the mak megielnetilei taleswo
wit Moe MUM to the
err o fees- 1" ROM Mee ell eked o Div,4,..44)
Hr. °LAWTON E—ls lbw le he rikehration of the
views 1 the pierevaroent on Ain beraelllselpleslian ?
The ATTORNEY-GEN FItAL WA ke deed fully os
laleMeeing the bill to the hour that the law bed born rattled
%the Hones at Lords fur • comaideralle time, and to that
lirT=adhered.
MOND said • mole*. of the Home of
Lards was Ind the law of the laud. (Hear, hear.)
lord J. MANNERS rid the right hon. ruder& (lir.
BeteeW seated the other evening that hy the law of England
dr aserriage tie war diambible. He wished to know Item
lia right has. gentlera to what law be referred. P
Hr. BAINES said leer mely quoted
ithoasilinsoa of Lord
Campbell, who not only raided ever the k bet court of
OBOOSOO taw lathe marry, bet who bad into the gem-
** perhaps mare daily than any other gam. (Hear.)
Mr. GLADSTONE rose, eel, abreast* the chair , said—
As hen. gentleman Whir wee, on my rising, said he pro-
moil against yeeeseding. ' I all on the chair to know
which et as ii t. (Hear.)
Mr. HOC V E 111 (who was in the citair)— I heard no ins
berepMe. (Hear.)
It,. GLADSTONE—I hope my word may be taken lter
fie het. (Hear and cries of .• Chair.")
Mr. BM' V BRIE—The right hon. gentleman is certainly
Wide/ to address the committee without interruption.
Kr. BIGGS (to whom Mr. Gladstone referred) said—The
right boa. gentleman has mistaken what I said. What 1
mid was that I protested against the whole proceedings.
(Hier.)
protest .I balers the people al an will join with me
Is
that
kr. GLADSTONE rerstled the interruption, and that
he hid skarn the hank= ef the he. gentlemen. Now,
with rad le the quake ham the eteneeittet. it waa one
Of se graw • wan led it was ad se re gernable after all
diet the her sod ler mad grasseen (111 k. Warren) should
eat the eenteires, whisk re wankel der &footing arrival
be ateetke le mar vend restkes of detail, and
rear
_trough the hub kaiser of clause., many
el ride were or risielliglide and misdirected
le thole led, that they wee at ha reedoned or postponed
—es to aster era eremeteres setheedruitageoue upon •
eillement of as. et the greet ward end *oriel questions
width weld be sehmilled he the Hewer Coinnines. (Dear,
led.) The Attenterthweal ail the law roe the subject
wenleel, and kr he mirk did no wee them not to propose
la allaralisa la It. Me (Mi. Okare) begged lers to ray
lel liest Meggido& wee whelped whet, gieeimiMm. How
will it le rid that the law was kid rem as regarded
lee rile the Seer of Lards wise in • merely tentative pea-
dos. Thaw was as ilsel Wee of Ohs law with regard to
the meek to be ghee to were. Hs hated upon the in-
leallesks• et the =of ahem A vhselo into the law
le wier ideletme big admitted. them
ere see lurks law It eseCirelashterredl with the bat
legs, He ward set be eselestel with as sera hum
the nee nth d seitherie—tha Mat Aim wadi be the
Ma &etgeee Is ride the eerier Oases tried weer be
re pewees, akar with the reciph
heriest of diver I
dumb the MI rather 4 t irereres,
ail dray in Ids errs, wmay, dm priple dist di.
Ifill era. sea MOE the rem le Teter te kit highest m-
ike et the serinkreeekket wee at reek bet unewals.
pear. bar) He hared that the evil dieser erg the
✓eit* of berseby word be kr rear thee the evil
Ada Art Wee kma the rifted isambee lad erre of
Meer ke Irk be reed epee ilk, lbe ft the esola -
ley of worms bed her at. mesh ef the Chriatian reli-
sphi* of the erailly ef km merewas still OWN
if di 111111OL (Her) He wee
disired at the
heilLerith whisk di, "wake wee irk with by those
km Or Mewl el siskery ef lissii ssehed the
redege The her robe kr Crahlige sad—Tea
Med air are when Or etre be; ad be spree
Si t
irederr beers 4 sideries temmitled by rem.
Ile dde bark of the panel* en Whit 4 the =
al ismerrish break kr the kw white% be ia
ere. 11 se the Ia weir kr Her add, the de of
as the sews le tirade el Chi risky remitki
rra was
se the womssar ded there wee se isegers men
oe ellellety le einetteled, where did he ted Milk
le warn ken the were the sorry white was
to the ter (Hew, beer.fifitt urn ray esediree
was
assielexpe ? He them arredwl
ran if they what Imd they to eel era
he deers dere, (Ler ehers.) Tithe
em
ilimidele, se it wee mid, wed if this was g=le •
Ifill pnk* of raider rest rid had they in that ease le
empleheremen to live mererieLin theezterna retake of
le des men with whim elm we met really united 1
ele.....i....iraLßutrliiteat
adimelei3 4h=len of soribisd expo
re
ate 7;i largely to ustify kr is eneeieg their
emir else War • TOM *a rd MO. Bet
eel era espediser bad net bee eer to exist
et
A. It le hir that the bill preosided a •
Ire or fie view d W irk to wheat temptation
ear a the pries gar at eteihay. He believed that •
varyllleiled werellie of the rime earaitted by wore
were re to the rem hirer of reed perm. whilst the
esetney wee the re with mar le me. Now, if they
rear to the maa the set of mired parse. they woad
ere •kw weak in many leaser, weal he ersear
he behead, he pewee that eet. Bat they darer Is make
t era slew, er they would mot heir It bins realise re-
deb* dot tiro of ewe when it might be remethel. kit
Irks ere ihe mew is empa 4 the rem, As weld
bre Ws le Ire sia ermine hem whet paned in the
ad kr hash% in ebe re merry 4 ear where the
err MI be sk she M kr is from makes lees Meer
it lipmlle this ease 4 ths Err (Bir. bear.) It wes
t 0... Ws task se tweed= to la Imelsr, as awoke
likh wee elhe p.d a the reset of the bead, if
at kr ere tree essese—se blear. at. Orr an age
lire Ike swear peer, berth reliably no lame-
ade inimilse,h the...stere 4 Ilse attachment, af ems •
Mat AL Theythe war, ad
be di sit preelee Medea,
the pork-
see word haw the mod iseserieg Abet. He hi-
ker it week puede the wit 1 any mem to answer
he pert of Lord Lyndhurst again( the mew in which
Is wawa ret towed In the bill— these), —sed be believed
air Led traria sales from the dare of experience,
std In eramity wiehhememisy rd Cheistimity. (Hear,
hear. Tie bill ere lb were the eight el divorce when
the el ther berber was amempered with cruelty.
Br, dill er mews there 1, It smut, to
is beat adrift be weld rd,l, end the dictum ofaccordin Log rd
kowil,thetthereweskagureraproirdesefthewifee life.
let wee that the cry Idol of radio Mole prevailed
it elerated malty ? Was net the mealy ef (molt
m wicked mil as gross P Her baser there had
bee malty iselsness in which se e=wdas given by
Ss law wham the adultery of the wee open,
mil corer a with persons dowdy connected with the
elk and was not that insult • cruelty as sharp to the anal
es say enmity that could be 'newt. don the body ? He
breed the creed s— to needed that they loud endeavour
is dierives kr the fallacy of the Attorney-
111=siiwweve set le leer • new law. Let them
M r tar Arm et Led contradicted as it
Idler by lime& The sire the ease was this . they
Id badsmaise--gbey eight sall it • law—of divorce kr
sear lead ewes; they ire sow prim to stead It to
Albert ease bought samba of mealeradens
We sr elm they roe • law at this kid,
b lie -miemidi to • beer whim of anciety, they
UM
prayer themselves Ala mats which did ad
re kei erikemir eke key were &ding with
as higher. illegasted a leer meshed by him, from • lady
Wmawa he law eeeapl inl.Ref the Impunity which the law
per Emt immaletoe , nil deseigag emu it the bOl
reed, the meek Webs tie week be deoroyei
k ever ; that men rad hard al gar y, white their
wire were be ~. to • Ilk of sh ti stile the an-
re of a besideg rat. le re test berms mare
ire silks te the theilitlessf diverse, ea the sr head, amt
gibe imposes rin* it Se inerrly of the
re =dm vase. be Ira I I ithes=maLessed -ittereahte, se
bird the
, ilk. Inctili= kr the they were
mike deer is deem so the her orders ef socle7 :Mt;
raw weir le dee ewe dear He did sat mar to
!W het Ire re lees rear in lb.. lore kr the Weer
b but thee eased Ilmt gaped to nespereability. or he
awl the per oldie dew of the law would be to hata-
ble ha eh, 4 the reldises of marriage amongst the
her are. In Prwerwirs divorce re allowed for any
=l:was In gem ended upon adultery, plainly
that adultery was eammitted for the sake of
•eh r
lass. T‘h.l;elezed,would be the coneequence•
eed in They would have adultery
eimelkel by re h ad mentved at by the wife, for
Asp
e.megem at feelitetelsi demos. He sympathised with
%aim h Fakeer he de equality of the ems' but
hal rime& thet parkas bf Irbil he vas Iva pre'
ka11e....._
____.leglee the algid I Amman le the woman. He could
iiiihWeenserTed that the law of Scotland g
hke rem me wall se to the man, he eond7
16 ildi 1
em err Irbil MB to dry to the or sea the right it ex-
_ le the eller. Lord Stowell led stated that In 90
ware of 111=e adultery of the wife woe mimed by the
W
4 at. ire The reineoly for colludon was to
se 6:44.11., • ellinimil came. If the remedy were given
web
thee =applied for when it Lwow •
weer arida end mormity,
im*. bt XTOB semi lhal the distinction drawn in this
mama late* in with the intuitive common sense of
0. swot am bus fit that the adultery of the
e ase the stew but sot so the on •
iditidawl ef Be kalkeertt rhos role a distinction
Zet eilbrlee lb sillswases torypeey lo the nude oex
Misil IIM7 .essays He ast One of the
tiniiiii,
law e....f1e the here. He thought
to folir the law of nature
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novena Ms insilieb meakind, and though ho oi
ths ekes et abbey in either are. he thought
miktielese Ml est reed kr a the WOO krel rogsrditi
se W. 1111ATHCOTE
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to a better andsnitanding tinier the operation of Chrbdiesity,
=I dry ewer to hob with Poise suspicion Os an ganger
which said only be justified on that principle of polyge ny.
Clirlisdrlty bag abolishel the repro ree..glaitina t plr-
gasy, bust it had not abolished coon of thole olf•shnots from
it. of which the doctrine of the inequality of the sexes woe
the mat prominent.
Mr. DRUMMOND reminded the rommittee that they
Wen about to vote .s the ninelt word " inc....tonna"
Mr. WALPOLI: denied this, and held that they were
dont to vote open the gnome in—whether it woo joot to
Mk, a dietaries between the maieo in viatica to the right
of obtaining Cenci,* ;.1 eineuln. lie believed t bet to give the
ease Illineey to the women on the ground of adultery are W
the ran would lead to connivsnee—eonsequently, he con-
Aimed the &enaction was a wise one.

Mr. BUXTON abhorrrd polygamy as much as any one,
belt what be meant to argue woo that the diatin. tbn between
the sexes in regard to unfaithfulness wan drawn by nature,
sad bad been ressigniscd in all ages.
The committee divided on the mutation of the ward " in-
sastaasa."
Far the retention of the wad

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The CHAIRMAN then, on the motion of the Arno:ser-
f) . 1., reported prognw, end obtained loose for the
onsminee to sit mein on Tuesday evening..
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION, &e., BILL.
This bill leas considend ae amendid by the committee,
sad some further amendments were introduced,
Lord I. MANNERS moved the omiselon of dame 24.
The house dirided—
For the clause
Against it
II The clause wee theref.we retained in the

iiiiiiijii7ll;Pithe;ljourenient of the debate for
the purpose of having a claws inverted which was intended
to saw the rights of an individual interested.
Air G. GREY maid ho believed that no such clause could

n brought up.
The SPEAKER said the time for introducing the chums
ter pant. and the adjournment would be of no use.
The motion for adjournment wee withdrawn.
The bill wan ordend to be reed a third lime ..n Monday.
INSURANCE COMPANIES BILL.
Mr. WILSON withdrew thin bill.
POLICE (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Thin bill, as =ended. wan considered.
Mr. CAIRD tooted the omission of the words "or sue-
erted " in the 12th douse.
The house divided—
For the motion
Anoint*
JOINT STOCK COMPANIES.

Mr. WlLSOiebtal;;4llle7veto bring in a bill ti amend
the Joint Stock CAsppewlea Act ISM.
Mr. W. S. TeTWERLLD obtained Imre to bring in a
DM to arocnd the kw with respert to jab:mem..
The house adjourned at five minutes to 2 o'cl, ek.

THE zoftxusurivrAsr ar 12ELA.Y.D AT
VALEXTIA.

We abridge from the Dahlia Freeman's Journal
a 'spurt of the entertainment at Valentin, on Tueaday but,
glema by the Knight of Kerry to the Lord-Livutonant of
Tiding and a party of gentlemen surceisteil with the greet
astsprim of laying the h übinari e Atlantir telegraph, whirh
esninesneee from that point on the western
TII• KNIGHT of lit:itue presided, the irc-chain bring
occupied by Stephen Fitrgirell and William T. Cruebir,
&gra. Gram ewe said by the Lord ilielom of Kerry, end
the elegant refection .applied by the honpitabte hoe hoeing
boss patsies of, and the name of bur Majeely duly honotard.
The CWAIIIIIAN propmed "The Stealth of the Lord-
Lienieurnt," thenking him for hie kinder.. in routing to that
very sientoto dietrict and putting up with the rough recep-
tion the! could be effordol hint.
. . .

71s °east having been drunk with eathaiaom,
His SoI:ELLEN( v, on rising to respond, was loudlycheerod.
He said—lds. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, I beg to re-
ars yes my very hearty thanks for the lornouryou have done
me he se Wady drinking my health- I believe, as your worthy
shaker has &treed, hinted, that I ant probably the first
LsraeLlententint of Ireland who ever appeared upon this
leaky asend. At all event., no Lord Listaesant could have
ocene asap* yen on en oceasion like the present. Amidst
all thektet grids and the stirring hopes which cluster around
the week el this week, we ought aim in renieniber that we
must speak with the enodrety of those who begin, and not of
those who ease, an esperiment —Oar, beer) • sad it be-
hoves res Is renumber that the pathway to Wrest achieve•
mings has frequently to be hewn oat amidst risks and ditti-
sada, and that preliininary failure is even the law end
maids' el the ultimate ~eves. (Loud chem..) There-
wleneever diaappaansenta may possibly be in
stem I meet yet initiate to you that inn tame like Ohio it
anal be minimal to feel discouragement. (Cheers.) In the
veep daps and endeavour to establish the Atlantic tele-
peak then is shwa enough of glory. It is true if it only
aa attempt, there would not be rite enough of profit.
hope that will come too; but there as enough .4 public spirit,
of love for erica', for our country, for the human rem,
shwa to ware in themselves. However, upon thia rocky
benatlet of Ireland. at nil erects to-day, we will pnwunte
upon ammo (Cheer.) We ore about either by !hie
✓undown, or by bentorree'. dawn, to establish o new
martial link between the old world sod the new. (ilea,
hear.) Morel link, there have been—links of race, link,
of commerce, links of friendship, links of literature. links of
glory; but this our new link, Mated •if supereeling and
eerphmtieg the old one., is to give them a life and an
Intensity which they never had Wore. (Loud cheer..)
Highly .. I TAN. the reputations of those who hove
cenceived and those who have contributed to carry nut
this height design—and I wish that so many of them had
not been unavoidable prorected from bring amongst us at
tide anctent —highly at I estimate their reputations, yet
I Ile not onmpilment them with the idea that they am to
aim ee dim the glom of that Columbus, who, when the
=velB..stela In the harbour of Cork yesterday weighed their
Ad aqua on that very day 565 piers ago—lt would
home bees eeßed in Hebrew writ • year of year—and wet
mil epee hie glorious enterprise of discovery. They, I ray,
will not dim or etlare his glory, but they are now giving
the last finish and consummation to his work. (Loud cheers.)
Hitherto the inhabitant. of the two worlds hove ammi dad
perttape in the chilling atmmphere of distance with earl
other—et a sort of bowing diatoms; but now we can be
hand to head, grasp to grasp. pulse to pulse. (Chomp.)
The link which is now to connect um, like the insect in the
immortal couplet of our poet, while