The Express.
London, England, 1850-02-12 00:00:00

5......"--ifirete sled member foe:Oxford iatrodueed a imams
axis) 'abject; aro it likewise fell to his (sr.
lot, about two years slam, to bstrodwas •
more armed en the evidence submitted to the inquiry
1.. Lord B lereboreugh's committee. (Hear, beer.) For
re m
ins* sons all these efforts had peeved ineffectual, lor
theerti Ndl remelted in all its (-comity, and every year
added se is dangers and iliMeahles. (Hear, hear.)
- lam Mpemaseed ia • former session, founded Olt the
fer.lbie a Lord Ell,lloo,ollet's COMllisisaio6, went upon the
tg...mt.. et emeolectrung the monsgent nt of this fond, is
inter te pet rid of the cimplication and went of economy
au.s.t.st ea its distribution by meaning hoeprebe
tbroagn the comity. It proposed, too, that it ld
• J under the unnogement of the Trinity House, they
tee; already le therm of a fund to the mount of 25.0004
to rer smitten It also propo ed that, ader five years, no ,
%etc! venoms should be granted to widows and orphans,
u.ept a those who had been killed or drowsed, as
formerly the case. It proposed to raise the
mut by • tax of lc a ton oa ship.
• FP= these recommendations of Lord Ellenborossk's
ereasuose be did set feel himself juatitied in departing, bat
or, rising linen" so loudly protested spinet the proposed
me. • .th he wee °Weed to give in, and übsatica the measure
—..terminiag le try of
steam. He believed it would be
m uusise—imiesd be might say dangeroue—to leave the
no I ss it was, oily to go iron worse to w, ne. He bold '
$l.l dm hose. sad tree country were responsible to
tt •I wen lot the proper sate of the laud. He
ti., rehire. proposed that they should entrust the gitainel
0,, at of the toad to the Trinity House, they having
.41 a sand at their disposal of 23,0001., with which they
✓ analesmate it. He, however did net thick it was
e. •:Ta.lo teat them body a. mild exercise this power aloe* or
1..•..0ut footled. la the bill he before submitted to the
t, wee it wee proposed that a the marine &pertinent of the
t rd el Trade then should be two officers of the merchant
11•111 D, and he now proposed that inch should be
~es ebb the Trinity II use in the administratioa of this
fm.d. and should prepare tor parliament regular sensate of
i:, an . that ad their proceedings should be comiaeted by the
st- bet toles. He proposed that every sailer who contri-
d to at should not receive 1,110 than 6d. a day, so soon as
• -• ern e a persivner. Hr torque dto raise the sum now
a sht the sailor, of Is. • mush, to Is. 6d. a month out of
.ees a dimmed. Arch be w.. istured, by pent.=
vit st badly to be wellinformed on the subject, would be
r, te.poaded to if it could be looked upon as • security
a -AA -.eat pentitu in old age. The prerent system of
grattiise p.. sigma to et sloes sad children it diseruninately,
MILS 101ILD to airs rb to marl. of to et fund, that he proposed
to es vett to the originfil rule of the seri. iy in that respect—
( ',lining it within teas -liable grounds. To apply the
cbabirs to the widows and children at present
rimming the peados, or indeed saving a strong prospect of
eeteivino at, would be bush said unjust. He therefore pro-
p...al Inlet the /03111011 MIS should not take effect for five
31 are, wOAm which period all parsons whose tames might
I r u tie list would he 'added to the pension as at present.
IlAt Isena I' It ibis Linea*, from the seamen's wages, there
* u snll be • deficiency ut 30 0001. a year, the whole of
~-eh recommenoed should be is .ntributed, not be
sl .powe.e,., bat by the state. He believed it would be
a ae. polity to do so—to e:iehle them to grant pensions of
..:ay to mestere, and 61. a day ei the common sailer.
ts, .ere the ..utlines of has plan, which be undid the
ore w. old omsida satistactury. The right hon. gentle-
kat. -too moved a resolution, on which to foiled • bill for
it. better m autgement of the meeebent seamen's fund.
Mr. M EMB did not object to the principle et centralize.
hut qu. unshed tt.e propriety of taking anything more
eu e -town. Ilad die right hon. gentleman taken the
• e,,..mmeaded by the committee up stairs, he would
'seer waradersi the propriety of abolishing the lighthruee
aid
laying • tax of Is. a ton, and the tonnage
hi powered occe •• ye r.
GEORGE CLERK said that he was perfectly aware
ol iti yof %Lie subject, as he had had the honour
Ishii se Freer eat ot the B aid of Trade to introduce a
to.. TtTecting it. As to the centralisation of the manage-
ment sa,d,psalisatiun of the puska', dr» would be some
&N.:• on trom some of the ustperts. Some of them were
.en .urishing. but others were in • state of utter insol-
e. tcj ma..l of these ports had had their foods arom liberal
eind the hostile were to be confined to the
poet,. hesatriss to :he pent. He doubted the societal of the
when it wee proposed to do more than government
tied .t p mer 01 doing 11) small weakly Of monthly sub-
eenpti...... A . man was very fortunate if he was employed
re the ay. (Mir ten months i the year. 131. was the only
tun...stributeal • mania , and out of that fund it was
e.=l teat there um to be • pension of 671 to provide
aor a or ...low Mid children.
Mr. LABOITHERE oheetved that the hon. ba-
r .1:0: s mr. so Cook' is pointing out difficulties
the. in mitg.surie a eenteary plan. He (Mr. Labou-
cto r I c alt rave no fear that this bill, if explained
to ise sailor, would be toot popular with him. As to
the Mu,. do's, • 0 oboe allusion had been made by
tee hon. member kr Mown..., be wee not satisfied with the
present e o.itioa of :Le ma• tensest of the light dues, but
•Ei arringements of ;he dues ea the coasting trade
of tin. e own, gest snJ substantial relief had been
Ott.ineil &Andres bad been made which were no leis
than Ulf the ammat formerly paid em the west
k.tfrAN approved of the bill in the main, but ob-
jected ter entealinatt tendencies. He thoueht that equal
i(1."1 m get be seeded with is.. iajury to local interests.
H. CLAY eisp,s-r.ed the principle of the bill.
.Liter . words tom Mr. LA1011:010111,
Mr CARDWELL objected to the centralizing character
of Me W.I.

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IiIiADLANI tendered the government hie thanks, on
the pen ue elee shipowners, for to .ny of the Provisions oi the
b.:. lie approved of the pri. elide of central control, ►et
thought it Meant be based un tn• responsibility of a govern-
Brat leJard, sod not left to the Trinity limpet. There were
some of tag details al the me. ere open to objection, he
themeht, but generally be lo.ke l on the bill ae a great Ma-
provemeut a the present r stem.
The SIAM! was then agreed to.

Mr LkIiOUCH ERE said the next measure he had to call
attentka to with retard to our mercantile marine bad for its
erect the ratahrshmi,nt t.f an improved system for the mess
seremort of tcoroage. This was a subject which involved
it co: cideratiot', and r.iii.ired au amount of scientific
iih,e;ioss r chic' ii.ts which be had no dales to. He
h sweet?, state ginerally that the hill emanated from
a essamtecori which tad teen appointed during the last
If.st,ll parliament, at the Road of which was his noble and
reliant trued Lord John Hay, who bad been assisted in the
twin:catkin of the subject ny the Chairman of Lloyd's,
erument shipowner'', and several scientific gentlemen.
I. oiler the old system, it would be rememberei, the
tschage was estimated by 'mirk and breadth of
tte towel, vitalist reference to the depth. The system of
isarement it was now proposed to substitute was founded
on the real power of the 'steel tor carrying cargo, and the
aire:atioll would proceed upon the actual cubical die
pweseet owasioned by the vessel, which he be-
lurid was the only true principle to p upon,
the measurement to be made In the builder's yard or in dry
d ce. The exemption which steam-vemeds now enjoyed, by
which the engine room was not calculated is the morato-
ria ht. would, however, be continued. (Hear.)

In. reply to a coital:at from Sir G. CIARK, the rif.ht boa.
1-11147 d. wr "'tact:at:lst bi:s report Iti:ebra'es 7111:
was also aimed to—and the Mau havist monad,
..

Mr BERN-AL reported the reeolatione, sad obtained
have to anae is tM time bills.

VOTERS AND ELECTIONS (IRELAND)
Sit W. somaaviLts, Tulin to move (Sr leave to
bnag ma bill to amend the laws for regulatiag the qualiSca-
Um sad wgistratian of parliamentary rotes in Dolma. sald
t would 5,4 be SOCINAII for him toenterlateanylengthened
tml•, inrush ea he had twice before obtained Isms
of the home to ley this bill (in substance)
on the table, bat which, for unavoidable reasons, it was
!hued impessible to permed with beyood a second readin6.
mi,Mt,halsiewever, say, that Ins necessity of some such
mews kereseed since the matter was last ma-
de, consideration. The But alwrstioa which ho

proprorito mak's ii tla bill win to do sway with
the holly of tenure, sad give the franchise to all
;vire so Si, rate. Is the five lovas—Dublin, Cook,
%morbid, Limerick, sad Bethel—the immediate lessor
was made saswerable ; foe the payment of the rate be pro-
posed that this should be esteaded to all Ireland. He pro-
posed also that bunts for lift of he simple, of the value of
61., should lave votes. The pretreat mate of thin/pin Ireland,
arising from tie tenure of had, was of a most
disastrous character, and he believed that if the fran-
chise were disconnected from it, it would have • most
beneficial effect. Having Leen permitted to iatraduce the
bull on a former occasion, ce should not trouble the house
with any further statement at present, but would simply
not, for leave to introduce it,
Mr. STAFFORD did not intend to oppose the introduce
tioa of the bill, bat would reserve to himself the right of
Llyosise both the piaci, le aid the details of the measure on
a hems oceuien ; but he did think that the unsettled state
of ',Le franchise was nos reason why the bill should not
bt advanced soy tardier.
Ater a few womb in support of the bill from Si: Denham
Mr. Ilk ItBERT thought that any taxation founded on the
reseal purr law valuation must fail.
Mr. bl. O'CONNELL said the house ought to be mode
aware that there was a se-valuation made In Ireland every
eighth year, sad that, as the eight year would shortly
tiptoe, the goardisas in every locality would then have the
Cypert watt of having a proper and hit volution made.
The only objection he had to the bill was, that he thought
the PI rating too high, and that a 61. rating ought to be
made.
Mr. FRENCH complained, that the bill commenced a
a system, never hitherto pursued with reference to the
hm.chise in Inland, In as much as it proposed to meddle
will the rights of the voters already upon the
resistor, who, it was always understood, should
boy the exercise of their privileges for eight years from the
Gate they were registered. He a: Wended that, amongst the
other objects of Se bill, it was designed to facilitate**
Collection of the poor rates.
Mr. GROOAN mid that hitherto no real opposition had
Leen started to the measure. lie thought, on the subject of
the valuation, that either the bill had been introduced at an
unsuitable moment, when there was no fixed valuation in
Ireland, or that the right hon. mover of it would find a mom
suitable valuation than had been proposed is the ewe pre
pared by Mr. Griffin.
1.• reply to • guestioa from Mr. 01001111,
ir W. IiOMERVILLII said that a party mug have paid
kis rates Won his same was placed on the righter.
Mr. SCULLY upland the gratilleatioa he felt at finding
the right hoes geatiemen, the Beentary foe Ire
aad. was of opium that the time had arrived
he improving the rarnsiatative opt= it the U.