The Express.
London, England, 1857-02-13 00:00:00

!has never tek place--(pear , hoar)—ban apparently been
represented to trim what it never was, what it unlit IMO
ustemjcd to be—s permanent guarantee of the Italian mew
dons of Austria by Prance; awl that it is perfectly
it ever could have been used In the =Ammer the inFgrta bon.
gentleman hen aoalar " that the Emtv,ror of Austria
could have mid to N I have a pnvate guarantee
from Femme for my I poessedmia." (near', hem.) The
only hastrnment eigned between France and Austria, u tar as
we are aware, was the convention I have mentioned—pro-
viding for awe that never occurred. But beyond that, this
military convention was not eigned at our • instigation"—
, (hoer, hear}—or by our advice—but it wee communicated to
us as a thing alraidy settled between France and Austria; and
the only question with us wee, whether we thought that upon
the whole Frazee was boondin hozour to malts tatelt en

arrangement for the purpose of, steering Austria in the went
of bre army being actively engaged with the armies of the
allies against Russia. (Hear, boar.) I think sir, that witsb
I have said, shows clearly that the right hon. gentleman kr
been gravely snd entirely misinformed as to the real facts of
the case. (Cheery)

The ODIIVOS•ti0/1 then dropped.

LEGAL REFORM.
Mr. NAPIER rose to move, " That an humble tame
be prenatal to her Majesty, praying that she will be gra-
ciously Omar to take into ooneideration, es en urgent mea-
sure of edmieldmetne reform, the formation of • apnea:
and resperilles department foe the atter of public justice.'
The ealjeet, be marked, bad been diectumed to former me-
eker et (peg Wig*, and the arguments then adduced, and
Irkkh be brelly maritulated, in favour of the plea tati-
err la hie relies, had weer been rebutted.
The metier was seconded by Mr. COLLIER.
The ATTOILNEIf -GENERAL suggested the omission
el rewords "resurgent measun of adnainiet rat iso reform,"
afar shirk anoeshoent ho would consent to accept the re-
nters hare the house. Ilia reason for proposing this
dime wes that the general system of law required retain
feat r rah rib edmoinhtration, and he considered it ex-
pedient to reason mansions which nettled to restrict the
soap al the infIINNIMMIS that wore roquidite, and of which
the spriatnaral el • law minister could only be a part.
laid J. RUM3LL remarked that law reform had become
a miter of extreme meracy and it appeared evident that
the Lead CIIIIOOIIIIOE hal seerarcient kisure to mature any
=imarests ea this sailed. After adverting to the
mirk he aid were exhibited in the manures in-
maired by lied Creswerth in the other house, eepecially
vial meld to the law relating to actions fur crux'. con. and
marten, lard J. Russell supported the proposition for
resibilleklaga Yirster of Justine, bat reconuocuded that the
depurtareet ieeld be attached to the °Mee of the Home

Agar SCAMS observations from Mr. Keating, Mr. Wigram,
mod Mr. 'Wart,
Or R. PERRY contended that the pmpoeed department
of *Elm should be attratitsi to a tartan, and not to a

Chisbas, llr. Maw, and Mr. S. Warren fol.

lowed. .
Viscount PALMERSTON—In agreeing, ae we do, to the
motion of the right hon. gentleman opposite, I am quite
ready teeny that we do it, not simply as a means of disposing
elf the motion by our acquiemenee ma it, but for the purpose
of iminvowing to give effect to the principles embodied in
the resolution, and which appear to have mewed the general
emennence of the house. (Hear, bear.) Those principles
I the to be that some real effort should be made to organise
emengements fir r. the purpose of providing fo
el..__
leg 11.111‘01 and ~
unprovemeuts no the law. With
raped to OD pattleular method of doing that, I am sure
that whiles pared to-night mug show how impossible it
would be far the government at once to state any plan.
(Herr, bear.) It is very stay for perinea to agree in regard
to eskting defects; but when we come ieltropl.e the remedy,
they wises every sort of ffillerence. (Hear, hear.) Unfor-
Ometely, we have whammed this in former ecotone, and even
the debate of thie ~deg alarsee tho truth of the old saying—
" What to avoid dole no Vest knowledge need ;
But what to Übe Is aloe indeed."
(Hear, hear.) To s upon aperikularsystem of improve-
ment k a molter vehM we cannot be expected to do. No
desk the eadgme is ens el vast importance, because every-
body must me OM peat improvements 'eight be made in
our system el ferer. For that purpose you do require
the combined Wens of a number of men who
will turn disk side—if I may my so—to the
philosophy el the kw. You do not regain men
ageigua
1 vri bme mat theraielrea in the active
wardens el pleading. , hear.) What you require is
men who be,, thought y on the principled law, who
may not be glad midi eloquence which enables men to
become diseingehheilas anodes, but who INVOIeIIiSOI have
these semi pidgin el law empty engraves in their mirk;
Italia will rimier Mama meat onsfel Is poisting . soltares,
and &swift the Nome ef these wheat duty it Is to peapw
relems to parliament. glees hear.) We have bad • die-
=mks whether • mew minister should be appointed, to be
ailed the Minister ef Jostles, or whether, on the contrary,
we ought to build an mdrag Sedation, and make the
most of what we ban bylhg the new department
eithw to that of the Lied Ch_Wne
maceiler or of the Secretary of
Slab ior the Ham Deportment. This at least I would my—.
leder the berzzer= foreign models by appoint-
*/ whet h of Justice, before it intro-
duces a new edam,
lobe most to a certain extent be •
lawyer, and Seders be called upon to abandon
leles I fiend, would be a member of the
.2= etas risg--, end for wham a provision would
ban le be ark mimes gaveatmest awed to exist, be-
hie he been sheeki resolve le adept an arrangement of that.
sort—l hilt it wadi les Agit to endeavour to me whether
yes emit assentglide year peeves by attaching that de-
portment te sere ef the =Wag once. (Hear, hear.) I can
g:eght mare the bas. 'nehmen that it will be the duty of
bon • plusonat to t,ive their earnest attention to
the It is am which he himself admits is surrounded
yismil..4lllkinleiss, ens that will require a very mature con-
ned esenidention shall be given; and I am not
with.* be,. OM them difficulties may be overtone. I
quite agree in Minn that the right hon. gentleman is m-
amba•• Nevin te the community by calling the attention of
melimment to Ws sesher; and if the motion which be ha.
meek sheeddi lb he frandellon upon which a great system of
ISO imMeninest *ell twinned, the right hon. gentle-
mem will, I ma sine, hewn the thanks of- the country, and
will feel meheatien is Whig eastribuded to such an im-
potent seal'. Degree to this Romanian as the pledge that
the Minh ef he gresrineent shall be directed to meet the
whims dam Mine and the etesstry on this subject. (Hers•
hem.) Ima pomaded hat there IS no topic to which the.
milled of the ementry is more directed than to the improve-
ment of amiss. (Hear _bear.) We shall endeavour to do
our utmost tie meet the wishes of the house and the country.
and tllOlOlllO I Malay sister la the motion of the right
hon. gentlemem. (laser, hear.)
Mr. HAPIIIII emceed his gratification at the way in
which his modem MC bees met by the government, and his
belief hot it wadi be mithhetorily carried nut. Ile did not
think oda the memo, monks& et the Lord Chancellor,
that he meld be expeted te dimes'', those of Minister of
Indies. He hoped that if existing machinery was not suffi-
cient it would be added to, so as to secure the object in view.
The motion was then agreed to.
CHURCH RATES ABOLITION.
Sir W. CLAY moved for leave to introduce a bill for the
abolition of church rates; the bill to be limited to total
abolition of such rates, and a provision saving existing legal
obligations. As the bill bad not only the name object, but
was identical in terms with the bill of last mission, be did not
think it necessary to describe it. A portion of that bill he
intended to omit, and on the second reading he would state
his reasons far doing so.
Mr. SPOONER did not wish it to be inferred, from his
not opposing the bill at this stage, that It was approved of
on hit side the house. This was • bill for the simple and
unqualified abolition of church rates, arid the house ought to
know whether the government meant to support it.
Mr. LAHOUCHERE said the Secretary for the Home
Department bed already staled that the government had no
intention of introducing any measure on this subject. At
the proper time, when the bill came on fora meond reading.
they should be prepared to state their views un it.
Leave was given to bring in the bill.

OINERIL POLLOCK.

Captain L. VERIiOY ;Tedfor ii7Production of all
touching the removal of Lieut.-General Sir 0.
r'=r.ro eac 40. directorship of the East India Company.
He recapitulated the services performed by that gallant
°Meer, and contended that he bad been ill-nsecl.
Mr. V. SMITH reeognimd the high military services of
Sir 0. Pollock, but explained that the non.renewal of his
appointment as director of the East India Company was
prompted entirely by considwation for the public adventsge.
Further remarks upon the personal question we. ()Sera
by Mr. DISRAELI IM LOS' PALMERSTON.
The motion was withdrawn.

Hr. LLOYD DAVIES moved for leave to bring end
bill for establishing a uniform system of weights
.TheCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wee-
hended that the eabLaM was awe in which legislation must
=thsimapeastive. He bed, brwirrer, no objection to the in-
et Or maweeed memare.
Atimity,_ ,ar litVais, Mr. Roebuck, Mr. Baas, and
other ereeleob .letawy ramerked Imam the existing disma-
l...kis ides Cdr, mad the perplexities they 00.
maitend. The meths wee then agreed to, and leave rem
le lateedese the MIL
Tie OHANCELUIR at the EXCHEQUER moved the
d lie pared eaawaittee as the Hank Ads.
err= Ow ______ that It should be mode • oom-
miles et
PirCall. reamed soleet the meepeellian of die
eammktea, which Se aeldoe veyeemetative
the remendael sehesime= by Hr. Tooke.
Me. DOHA= mimed by aeration that the appoint-
altatt al • earewileass wee • NIRO Woe.
After soma millewalleme bran the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER. the motion wee weed to, and twenty
umbers chows to Ablate on the committee.
Ms bowie edjoasned m la o'clock.