The Express.
London, England, 1867-12-31 00:00:00

THE FENIAN INV:

:STIGATION.

YURTHER RXAIIINATION AT BOW-STREET.

After our report left yeeterd”',
Henry Bird said—l live at 67, Turnmill-street, Clarken.
well. lam a dairyman. Shortly before four o'clock on
Friday, December 13, I was serving Mrs. Parr with milk, at
66, Corporation-lane. I saw the truck coming up the lane,
wheeled up by, I believe, three men. I was coining from
towards Bowling Green-lane. Up past St. James's-passage
I noticed they turned the truck half round, and the truck
ran back into the gutter. The barrel either rolled out or
they assisted it out, but I can't swear positively. One
man took the tarpaulin or a mackintosh from the truck
and threw it across the barrel. I won't swear that it
was the Wile man that afterwards twisted the barrel.'
The end of the barrel was on the pavement, at about
two or time feet, I think, from the wall. One then
wheeled away the truck very lazily and apparently
very unconcerned, in the same direction in which he
came. The two men left, and I believe they went
towards St. James's-pasaag•e. I won't swear. I then
saw a man of gentlemanly appearance standing near
the wall. I don't believe he spoke once to the men with
the truck, or even took any notice of them. He crossed
the road and went down the opposite side of the barrel.
He stood, Si far as I can guess from the map, oppo-
site No.''i in Corporation-lane. IA crossed over the road
to the barrel and looked at the head of it, as if fur a name
Iff a number, as I took it to be. I was at Mrs. Parr's then
mewing the milk. He took either • fusee or match, and
I maw him strike a light. He applied it to the head of
the barrel. He pulled the tarpaulin or mackintish over the
head of the barrel, and crowed the road towards St.
James's-place. After she spoke to me she went into her
house, and shut the door. I then went off.
Sir Thomas Henry—Why did you not seize the men
Witness—l was frightened like the rest and ran away.
Rumination continued—l went to serve two other cus-
tomers, and saw police-constable Moriarty about two or
three minutes after the light was applied to the barrel.
My horse and cart were standing at the corner of Coburg-
street, where all the streets join. I hail some converse.
tion with the police-constable about the barrel. I saw
him afterwards go in the direction of Corporation-lane.
I told him I saw a barrel, and a gentleman put a light to it,
and it looked very suspicious. I could see up Corpora-
tios.lane perfectly well while I was speaking to the
policeman. I was almost insensible at the shock of the
explosion, for it took place as I Fot to Coburg-street. The
explosion took place about a minute after I spoke to the
cenvin. The constable walked very lazily tawards the
1. I served four or five customers, beginning at Jones'.
I served at Nos. 3,5, and 6. No. 3is blown down. These
are the houses in Corporatiteelene. At the time I saw the
barrel ignited Mr. Young was not at his own door. At the
time I saw the barrel lighted Mr. Crowley was not there.
Mr. Giffaid—Do you see any one here that you know?
The witness looked at the prisoners.
The witness added that one of the three spoke with a
rough voice. Had not heard the voices of the prisoners,
except William Desmond. That did not assist him. If
he hisin the voices of the others it might assist him in
khan g them.
Sir homes Henry said he could net call upon them to
speak for that purpose.
Police-constable Richardson, 2.39 G, who assisted in re-
moving the bodies from the ruins, proved the finding
of the body of Mrs. Sarah Hodgkinson in what appeared
to be the hest floor of No. 3A, Corporation-lane, the house
which was blown down. She was dead—quite dead, and
was buried in the ruins. The body was removed to St.
Bartholomew's Hospital.
Edith Bright, a married woman, said that the deceased
Sarah Ann Hodgkinson was her sister, and was living at
3A. Corp:a:scam-lane up to the day of the explosion.
Witness saw her dead in the hospital on the following day.
Edward Blightoo, a lodger in the house No. 3, Corpora-
tion-buildings, proved that he assisted in searching the
ruins, and. with others, found the body of Humphrey
Beane under the rafters of the third floor of No, 3A, where
he lodged. He was not dead then. He was removed to
the Royal Free Hospital. As he was being removed from
the ruins be said the words, " Save my poor wife."
Police-sergeant Whiting, 8 0, also assisted in getting
people out of the ruins, and found the body of Martha
Ems under a portion of the rafters of 3A. She was removed
to St. Bartholomew's Hospital, where I saw her daily. I
also saw Humphrey Evans daily at the Royal Free iital.
William Evans, 6, Warner's-place, painter, de that
Humphrey Evans and Martha Evans were his r ether and
mother, and were living at 3A, Corporation-lane at the
time of the explosion. He had seen them there alive the
same morning ; after the explosion he saw them in the
hospital. They are now both dead. His mother died on
the 19th, and his father on Christmas morning.
Frederick George Thompson, bran finisher, said be was
living at the time of the explosion at 3A, Corporation-lane
with his family-. After the explonon, he lifted hie
daughters Martha and Anna Mara Thompson out of the
rams. They were taken to the hospital. Martha had since
died. She wee 1:1 years old. Wibuns was at work in hiework-
shop at the back of the house at the time tithe explosion.
Mr. Poland said that was as far as he was prepared to go
in this CAW to-day, but as he had • witness to examine in
the other case, William Desmond and English mast re-
main in court._ _ .

Sir Thomas Henry—Let then pat their hats on.
This was done. The witness then, after looking at them
one by one, said—l think that one (Timothy Desmond) is
the man who aaaisted with the truck, hut I should not like
to swear to him. That man (pointing to William Desmond)
resembles the man who put the light to the fusee, in his face
and beard, and everything. He had a red beard, and the
same coloured hair ; but if it is he, he is much stouter.
He must have more coats on.
William Desmond—l have but one coed on.
Wiesen—Theo you have a thicker oust.
William Desmond—l have no other ooat.
Witness—l could not positively swear to him. I only
saw his side face, and now I see he front face. I think it
I had seen his front face at the time I dare say it might
alter my opinion.
Sir Thomas Henry—Have yon any belief as to whether
it be the man or not? You are not asked to speak positively.
Have you any belief one way or the other?
Witness—l should not like to swear to him. He had a
different hat and wet. I sight be able to swear to him
with the acme hat and coat.

To Mr. Harper—The man who lighted the match had
what is called e "goatee."
Timothy Desmond, Allen, and Anne Justice were then
removed, and Mullen; and O'Keefe were placed at the
bar beside William Desmond and English on the charge of
treason-felony.
Mr. Charles Harper appeared for Timothy Desmond ;
and Mr. Lewis, of LI, Greatbiarlborough-street, for Mul-
len): and O'Keefe. _ _

girlboaas---iiinry—For whom did you appear before,
Mr. Lewis?

Mr. Lewis—l was not in thin case. That was Mr.
Leal' Lewis, of 23, Great Marlborough-street.
Sergeant Dunce, being recalled, said he had been for
weeks watching the Lion and French Horn, in private
clothes, and had seen the prisoners English, William Des-
mond, and O'Keefe there from time to time. He was not
phitive about Timothy Desmond. Had seen English there
nightly for about five weeks. Had seen the others there
at the same time with English. Had seen a man named
ll`Carthy there with English. That was about the 7th
of December. English came with three young men. He
introduced them to the men present ; about fourteen were
there. He introduced them by saying they were true Irish-
men andbmve fellows. M'Carthy spoke to them, and told
them he had been in the Gth Dragoon Guards. He had along
pipe in his hand, with which be showed the ants and
guards of the sword exercise, and said be would give the
upper cut, and take their heads otf to the tune of St.
Patrick's Day in the Morning. That was about the 7th
December. About two nights afterwards, I think it was
the ttth of December, three young men came to the house
and asked for English. He met them at the door, shook
kande with them, took them in and introduced them, say-
ing, " These are three of our brave brothers." The other
men shook hands with them. They had some conversa-
tion. English took them aside, and said, "If you want
anything else of me go to No. 5, Jarses-street, Commercial-
road, and mention my name—you tan get anything you
Inuit." Oa Pride', the Mt, I was at the same plass, and
saw O'Keefe and Iftgliiti there, with Bl'Carthy and two
younger brothers of the prisoner Casey. O'Keefe said,
" I raw two slops by the public-house. I then felt
afraid, and ran away." On the following Sunday I
took O'Keefe in custody at Great Windmill-street.
It was then I found on him the cards I pro-
duced the last time. At the station-Loma O'Keefe
was identified by Sutton as one of the men who had
been seen loitering about the station. O'Keefe said he
could prove where he was at the time, that he was at
home at work on a pair of boots. I made some inquiries,
and reported the result, upon which he was discharged,
by order of Inspector Gernon. He said, " Whatever may
be my principles of Feniatiisre, from this time I intend to
have nothing to do with them ; and you may depend
upon it that affair at Clerkenwell will crush the Fenlan
movement. It was never intended to take innocent blood.

I had some time ago an opportunity to go to Egypt and
I intend now to embrace the opportunity." He said he
was exceedingly faint from being locked up twelve hours,
and wanted some refreshment. I gave him some. On
Thursday, 19th, I went with Cole to the Lion and French
Horn, and saw Mellon y with three or four others. Cole
told 3lullany and English he held warrants signed by
Sir Thomas Henry for their spprelicusion for treason.
felony. I then took English into custody, telling
him that I was a police sergeant, and that what Sergeant
Cole said was correct, and that as are were two constables
in uniform they could have no doubt about the matter.
English then became extremely violent, end raid, " War-
rant or nu warrant, I'm nut a-going." With that he fought
with his arms And plunged about, and got hold of mo by
the neckerchief. I caught bold 0f him, and be struggled
very much. Two of his companions had got hold of me by
the neck and shoulders, and were pulling the reverse way.
I forced my way towards the doort anal English cried
"Tow, boys, for your revolvers !" IWhilst struggling in
that position I drew my staff and knocked him down. He
fell through the doorway into the street. I fell on top of
him, and two or three of his companions fell on top of me.
I bad • body of police waiting outside, and after some
further resistance we got them to the station. I then
went to his lodgings, but found nothing there relating to
the cue. I afterwards took O'Keefe the same night on
the charge of treseon-felony. He was very quiet. . I
searched Mulleny's 1 and found the produced
tickets at 20, Citerbon*Ureet. They are the cards I
prodiaced bet time.