The Express.
London, England, 1866-02-27 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PAWAIMUCNS

HOUSE 0! LORDS.-;42ONDAT,Ia. 26.
The Lou, Caevezmos leek Ida mg ea tie weeleeek
at 5 o'clock.

THE LATE KING OF THE BELGIANS.
The Earl of DERBY—I beg to give notice that on Friday
ant I shall man to your lordships a Madinat oe behalf
of the tram's. of the late Kiog of the Belgians, sad that I
shall take that oppornaity of &skin her Majesty's govern-
mint how soon they may be atoned to be relieved from
the duties which they have base discharging, now for three
moans, wider the direction and at the request of the Tres-
wary, but without, as I apprehend, suillsient legal sanoties.
LAW OF EVIDENCE AMENDMENT BILL.
The LORD CHANOELLOR, is reply to Lord Chelms-
ford, said it was his intention to pinyon this bill and tho
Divorce and Matrimonial Causes Bill until that day week.

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THE OATTLE PLAGIfIi BILL.
Earl GRANVILLE mid there WM no len than fifteen
emeeptioas In the above bill to the restrictions it imposed on
tie removal of cattle, besides other powers given to the
Privy Oonaol on the same subject He wu very much In-
clined net to peas the bill, but it contained certain oddities'
to the bill their lordships bad already paned. and it would
be a great lose, as regarded past legislation, if they bad not
▪ opportimity of considering them clauses. In the Houle
of Common the bill was not only altered by the govern-
ment, but by the independent members, there being a great
ilklersnee of opinion on both ides of the hones in regard
ft certain provolone. He was quite prepared, in the event
of
no independent member being winkle to take up the bill,
to talischsroe of it himself, on behalf of the government,
bat on the clear understanding that be would propose to
lure out certain perilous, sad only ormeant to On alums
which were supplementary to the bill already ponied.
The Earl of DERBY expressed hie concurrence in the
amuse proposed by the noble earl.
Earl GRAN VILLE gave notice that he would move the
amend reading tomorrow.
CONDITION OP IRELAND.
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Moment LIFFORD eon to call the attention of the
home to the causes of the present ooadition of Ireland, and
fie ask her Majesty's government whether it was their in-
nation to introduce any Measure into parliament providing
for the support of the Roman catholic clergy of Ireland in-
dependent of the contributions of the people ; and also to
move for a return of the parochial clergy of the Roman
catholic church in Ireland. distinguishing between thole
who were pariah priests and those who were curates. The
noble viscount proceeded to contend that it was abso-
lutely necessary to deal with the land question,
end do away with the present sherd system
et tesartteright I the north of Ireland. In some
respects it had been found necessary to deal ex.
emotionally with Ireland, particularly in the case of the
Ma church. There were several of their lordships who
looked upon the Irish &arch as • reformed trench of the
eathobe church, legitimately ialseriting her property, to
which a large additional property bed been added since,
and with such of their lordships it was not
aseemary to argue the question. But they might re.
&tribune that property as they liked. They might apply
a portion for the purposes of education, and part to other
woes ; and ore of the me he (the noble lord) took leave to
net
Lord
be for the support of the Roman catholic clergy.
RUSSELL, after reviewing the attempts made by
lib. Pitt and others to settle the question of state payments
of the Roman catholic priesthood in Ireland, pointed out
the difileulthe which presented themselves at the present
day to each a course. There was a large body of=
who objected to all state endowments far wo
purposes, and the Roman catholic clergy them-
selves were indisposed to a course which would ear.
beinly tend to lessen their lellnenee over their looks.
The government, therefo did Dot intend to mike
shy propnal on that subject. Neither did the go-
warmest intend so introduce a measure for the purpose
d yang any portico of the fends belonging to the eels.
• church to educational uses. Adverting to the evils
' h wore DOW emplaned of in Ireland, Lord Russell
✓emarked that some of those evils were of very long stand-
*, sad it was impossible by measures prised in one seteioa
of parliament to remedy the grimness of Ireland sad
restore its people to happiness and prosperity. Since 1829
various beneficial MOSOUtOII bad been passed, such se the
scheme of national education, the Poor Law, sad the En-
cumbered Estates Act, sad every disposition had teen
evinced by parliament to promote the welfare of Ironed.
The Marquis of OLANRIOARDE regretted the toes of
the noble earl, as it indicated that Ireland could expect
let little from the present parliament. He regretted
particularly the decision of the bolds earl In reference to
the specific question pot to him by the noble viscount.
Be had hoped that the noble earl, who had voted for what
wee called one of the wings, would not have given so decided
• negative as to the expediency' and porn lily of • state
pgovision for the Roman esthetic clergy io Ireland. He
had long been of opinion that such • measure wou'd
be the best that could be adopted towards Ireland. He
believed there was great discontent in Ironed, but little
diaffection ; and the people had DO affinity with the
Fenian.. To talk of the Irish people as disloyal was sheer
aonsease ; their only complaint was that they did not see
enough of the Sovereign or her family : when any did go
they were welcomed with the utmost enthusiasm. Re quite
agreed with the noble lord as to the alined= which existed
between the Irish government and the Irish gentry. The
magistracy, he believed, were not convened. although the
voluntary oommunication of those of Cork caused the Ana
step that was taken for the repression of the Fenian move-
ment. The noble lord bad also alluded to tenant right,
but he (Lord Clauricarde) wished to know what it
meant—was it confirmation, or was it inereesed facilities for
making contracts far land! As to giving the tenant •
vested right in the land, that was absurd mid impossible ;
bert anything that could be done to fscilitete contracts was
a diffetent matter. Something he thought might be done
by government with respect to the Irish railways, and it
was not fair to leave them altogether to themselves as in
this rich country, hut whatever was dove he denied that
there was any disaffection in Ireland. Ireland was discon-
tented only, and that was bemuse she felt herself to be
negleoted.
Earl GREY said that the speech of the noble lord who
lard introduced the Irish subject to their lordships that
ODNIDOIr deserved great attention. There was one proem!,
however, which be had not expected to hear from him, and
that one was, for the restoration of the appropriation clause.
(Earl Grey) bid been • strong advocate for that clause
thirty years ago ; he was not so now • the time for such a
compromise had gone by. (Hear, hear.) He cordially con-
torted, however, with the noble lord in thinking that the
pretreat state of Ireland, requiring as it did the exercise
of the strongest repressive powers, such powers having
been granted to the governmeot unanimon-ly by one house
et parliament, and almost unanimously by the other, was
such as to make it imperative on their lordships to see
whether beneficial measures might not be 'dept.& The
evils of Ireland could not be removed by any single mell-
ows, bat be feared that, in the absence of all remedies,
the evils were increasing. He was so convinced that the
policy. of this country with respect to Ireland required to
be rented, that, as his noble friend at the head of tire
government had dec'ared that they had no meastifes in
eontemplatitm for Ireland exempt tease of repression, be
(Lord Grey) would himself submit to their lordship. the
question of whether Ireland ought to be left in her pre-
emit condition, and with that view should, on Friday, the
9th of March, move that their lordships should go into
committee of the whole house to (topsider the state of Ire-
land, and in committee he should move resolutions re:em-
ail:lodine what In his *dines was required.
Lord DUNSANY mid therewere two subordinate reasons
why the Romish clergy should be paid stipends by the go-
vernment. The natural relief of the whole of Irelsnd was
emigration, but the priests chiefly and strongly opposed it,
because every man who left his parish was so much
out of the pocket of the peen; and secondly, there was a
desire on the pert of the people to conceal all outward signs
of wealth, because they feared it would encourage the de.
mands of the Driest' upon their renames. (Hear, hear.)
Lord LIFFORD withdrew his motion, and the subject
dfopped.

THE ART BILL.
On the motion of Lord BTANIST of ALDI&.Iy, this hill
Tee read e third time end passed.
The house s4jourasd et 25 minutes past 7 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY, FIB 26.

The SPILIERS took the chair shortly before at 4 o'clock.
NEW MEMBER&

Mr. Goschen, Chancellor of the Duchy of Lsnesster,
took the oaths and his seat on his re-election for the Cloy
of London. The right bon. gentleman .as introducid 1y
Mr. Crawford and Mr. Hodpoo. Mr. O'Neill also took lie
seat for the county of Antrim, and The O'Cooor Dm for
Mnsoommon county.
MAKES Z.

T (NORTH) APPROACHES
BILL.
Oa the order of the day for the sewed reading of this bel.

Yr. TITS moved an amendment that the bill be read a
reeled time on the 16th of March. He stated that the
Thames Embankment Bail, which was brought in in 1862,
was remould by the government, and not by the Metropo-
litan Board of Works. It was not a private speculation
bat a matter in which the whole metropolis was troooerried,
and a very important question arose as to the best mod. by
which the approach.. to the embankment were to be made.
n• Board of Works proposed that there should bee
latect approach from Charisg-eross. A mistaken int-
premien prevailed that it was intended to take Northum-
berland-hones. On the contrary, the Board of Works were
prepared to submit a chase binding themeless not to
touch any part of Noethamberlsad-house or gardens with-
out the omen% in writinr, of the Doke of Northumber-
land, and sot to touch the Savoy Palacio. He was of
sphion that those two banding. should be retained, owing
to their architectural and archaeological value.
Meer some discussion,
Mr. COWPER said he should not like it to go forth to the
coantry that a public body like the Metropolitaa Baird of
Works bad deliberately proposed a breach of faith. He
Ihooght that the boom ought to be exceedingly stem is
riderseas to any alleged breach of erumerneat between
wirtica who were promoting or opposing privet* Wk. He
hawed that in this case there was ao f air or Jost founda-
tion forsook aa allegation. The coalanat„ nook as it was,