The Express.
London, England, 1860-08-23 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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Mr. K J &ILES objected to this clause, hieluding thirteen
City parishes which bad me sped the great fin of London.
In the case of parishes the iskerches of which had bees de-
stroyed, the rats' were sow :0•111d under the Fire Act, but
in the case of this ihirbeem class bad recently_ been made
midge the obsolete statute of }teary VIII., whip permitted
• tithe of 2a 9d. in the pound. /he Rev. Mr. Deane, mo-
tor of St. Martin Out.chunli, Loci recently made • claim
mailer the last-named statute hI 45/. • year on • single temp.
maid ; mid the arm olergymoo had demanded 2301. a year
ea the Baltic Coffee-house. as • ocesproinie of his lemd
Haim, which be alleged to be NW This rev. geetlemaa
had, %appeared, • stra.in.law • solidtter, and it we this 1
latter garillemee vita discovered the claim. Previously
lir. Lisaasfs teems wee about 5001. • year, but there was a
dent
_nisilithf_lie. Pd. in the pound ea the alleged value
ef theMeNe Celleimbouse, or 2s. as as equitable compro-
=with • threat that if these terms were mot at once
%.al steps would at once be taken. Nis would
{Mil VIOL • year from ome house, and be maid Mr, et a
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eef the first MOM( lIWOWS lietrituale
it Oltr He (Mr. mseel lo
'last nadir this bill • rent chew of 2a. was
teMillinite WHO on those midis&
NW NOUVERDI said that the hem wad 'hunted mem-
- hmee chilli was hardly relevant te. t MINIM but be
would Wert words providing that the met Matey should
ad be levied wiliest the consent of the wedgy.
SIDNEY said that the s of the law
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nodes usidepese. mine.
mod • camprinalm. Whim the party Mho meet
py rt° Meat, when hs could not pout on
The lair was 'barbarous, obsolete, sad 1a-
Nehru*. When Lord Mayor, he lAM • ney) nee
Mid by the unmoor that belied no optic's het to recommend
• compromise.
on
cup= thought that a clause which he bed
' on the paper would meet the difilcultv.
_ E. JMLES said that what be wasted was that these
thirteen parishes, which bad escaped the fire by men accident,
Medd sot be rated higher than the other parishes which
were rated under the statute of Charles 11. He would on
the report bring up • clause to meet the case.
Mr. BOCVERIE would be happy to confer with the
hot and learned member ea to an arrangement, but could
not pledge himself until he UV/ what the lion. member
meant to propose.
After a few words from Mr. HUDDARD and Alderman
SALONONB,
Sir J. DUKE said ho helii property in Mark-lane,
which his tent had improved, and they would have been
heavily rated but that they were able to mine to en
arrangement with the rector.
Mr. TITE cited a similar case, in which advantage had
been taken of the obsolete statute.
Mr. MELLOR said that the evil could only be remedied
Vidseparate bill. It wea so monstrous that no time
be lost in providing a remedy.
Clause agreed to.
Clauses to 29 inclusive were agreed to, with certain no.
Ths a
"nneadmesite.
remaining chew were agreed to.
Mr. SEYMOUR pave notion that he should bring up •
clause providing that these churches might be purchased by
other religious denominations.
Mr. VANCE moved • clause providing that no scheme
ter the sale of churches should be submitted to her Majesty
until approved of by both houses of parliament.
Mr. K JAMES said that so much power was given to the
bishops by the bill that he thought some safeguard abso-
lutely neasseary. He should, therefore, most cordially sup-
port the motion of the hum member far Dublin.
Mr. MALINS said that the true principle was that •
scheme should be laid before parliament to decide what
churches should be abolished and what retained. He must
therefore support the proposel of his hon. friend, which
would have the effect of partially carrying out that prim-
Sir J. GRAHAM said if this question were brought to •
division, he must explain the principles on which he should
give his vote. It was perfectly true that, if the bill passed
without this clause, parliament would lose all control what.
ever upon the proceedings of the F,oclasiastical Commis-
sioners ; and he thought that the clause would give an op.
portunity for the exercise of • most useful check upon
the comeineion.
Mr. BOUVERIE said be could not see what good end
would be attained by the submission of • scheme to parlia-
ment. The only possible result would be that some one
would come down and mom an address to the crows on the
subject. (Hear, hear.) But he could not think that the
removal of city churches wee a proper subject for an ad.
dress to the crown.
Mr. JAMES said he had no doubt that the house would
differ from the first scheme which might be proposed by the
commissioners. But what objection was there to that?
Ha objected strongly to the delegation of the powers of the
House of Commons to • vestry sitting, say at Garlick-Ul—
(a laugh)—comisting of perhaps • baker or two and a coax-
Mon commilioan.
Mr. HENLEY said he trusted the clause would be car-
ried. He could not help noticing how favourably the sys-
tem had worked in the ems of the Inclosiire Conuunsiou-
ars, and of the Health cif Towns.
Mr. BUTT observed that when the House of Commons
refused to allow the Lord Chancellor the power of making
titles for his own court, It seemed absurd that the functions
of the House of Commons should be deputed to • vestry of
Garlick-hill_

Sir G. C. LEWIS mid be thought the case of the luck-
sure Commission was not in point, inasmuch as the schemes
of the leeloenre Commissioners had to pass both houses of
parliament. fla lisped his right hon. friend (Mr. Heave.
nob however, would not persevere in hie opposition to the
clause. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. BOUVERIE said be would not give the committee
the trouble of dividing, and the clause was then agreed to
and added to the bill.

Mr. HENLEY moved by way of amendment in the
, preamble to omit the words ' cities, towns, and boroughs,"
and to insert the word "metropolis ;" and to make various
additions descriptive of the bill.
Air G. C. LEWIB said that the ancient practios with re-
gard to acts of parliament was to make the preamble as lmg
as the bill, but the modern custom was different. He put
it to the right bun. gentlemeo whether it was worth while
to make the change.
Hr. BOUVEIUE wee opposed to the change.
Mr. HENLEY said be wished to put his objection upon
recent, inaamuch as the existing preamble did not accurately
reproient the contents of the bill. He would not, how-
ever, give the committee the trouble of dividing.
After some observations from Mr. Alderman SIDVIIY,
The amendment was put and negatived without a dint.
stun ; cud the bill yeaeed through committee, and was or-
dered to Le ropuAwl
The Metropolis Local Management Act Amendment Bill
woe withdrawn.

On the motion for the third reading of the Roman Ca.
Bloke Chanties Bill,
Mr lit rr moved that it be recommitted, but, after • dis-
cussion, the motion was entmirawn, sad the bill reed •
thud time and passed.
The Party Eiunleme (Inland) Bill wee read • third time
and pused.
lac committee on the Obureh Temporalities (Ireland) Act,
Mr. CARD WELL stated that be should propose that the
first eight clauses, which made alterations in the constitu-
tion of the Irish Ecclesiastical Commission, should be
omitted, which was accordingly done.
The other clauses were agreed to.
The house having resumed, the other onlers were gone
thr.::44, and the adjournment took place shortly before six
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