The Express.
London, England, 1858-04-13 00:00:00

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its permiesion—(beer, hear)—l will reply to thequsetice of the
hos. baronet. It is my intention at present, as I think it Who
general wish oldie haw that I should do so, to propose thins
resolutions. (Hear, hear.) I shall propose them on this
day fortnight. It oertabily never entered Into my imagination
to give up the bill I had the honour of iaterincing. flume
a lively conviction that the result of discussing these mole-
dons will be to effect such a change in the general view of
the house that the bill which I had the bower of hare-
d ,nring and which will remain uponthe until we haw
decided these resolutkes, will la lie general seep he adopted
by the lows, and, modified no doubt in some kips, by the
united experieece of the homy which the dfsemsion of those
resolutions will bring to light, will ultimately become the
law ot this country. (Hear, hear.)
The then dropped, and the report of the aosamittee
wee to.
817 P LY.—THE ARMY AND NAVY ESTIMATES.
Oa lbs notice for gang into committee of supply,
Mr. WILLIAMS took that oppontuatty of milling atten-
dee to the present estimates far army and navy, which
were ~,seal millions heavier than any which had yet been
submitted to that house. It inks the duty of the Howe of
Commune to look into this realest, and to devise a remedy.
This could only be demo by riderbg the estimates to a rime
committee. He merely proposed that this committee should
lupin into the extraordinary increase in these item, and
report the result of their rover igations to the hones.
Mr. KERSHAW sesonded the modem.
Sir J. PAKINOTON &dead following the hon. men-
bar through his slatewmats, many of lad, fa his
opinioa, leas or no INIIIIMOS to the motion. He font bound
to memo that WHIM. and he trusted that the hems would
agree with him that it would sot be expedient to Met the
sad nod asthnotse of England to a salest ana-
-1 The Imes !Wed:
For the maim l6l
For Mr. Walleaufeemendisent
SUPPLY.—THE NAVY ESTIMATES.
The house thee went Into committee of supply.
Sir J. PA/LINGTON, in moving the navy estimates,
admitted that, es proposed by the late and
adopted by the present they were very high, but they were
required by the necessities of the State. We had a noble
fleet, which was useless unless properly manned, and the full
complement of men was not at the moment obtained, and la
consequence many of our ships were not available. What
was required was fair liberality on the part of the govern-
ment, and activity on that of the authorities, and the man-
ning of the navy would ere long be in a satisfactory state.
He urged especially the proper maintenance of the Channel
Beet. He rebored to die attired circumstances of the duxes,
sad especially to the development of our steam navy, to show
that we could not regulate our expenditure by that of former
times. He believed, however, that some reduction could be
made in the expenditure of the dockyards. It was intended to
brae a commission to inquire into the state of our steam ma-
chinery. He had been able to propose certain redoodone
in the present estimate, as compared with those of the
late government, amounting to 318,7561. He believed he
wee expressing an opinion which would receive the general
scent of the committee when he said that this
country ought saver to be without an efficient Chan-
nel five!. (Hear' hear.) It was not ccesetent with
the Rainy of the nation that we should be at any time
or under any circumstances without each a fleet. (Cheers.)
He admitted that when his right bon. friend opposite stated
Ist* year, in moving the navy eatimatee, that in ccesequeeco
of the state of affairs in China no Channel Seat WIN main-
tained, that the force of circumstances had occaskaid con-
siderable difficulty in the matter ; still, as a rule, he held that
an effective Chaos,' flea ought at all times to be kept in
commission. (Hear, hear.) Ile submitted, then, that with-
out loss of time, it was their duty to organise a powerful
Channel squadron—(dmar, hear)—not only for the pro-
tection of our shores, but (and in this he was
sure that every honourable and gallant officer con-
nected with the navy then present would agree with him)
looking to the extent to which steam was now introduced
into our navy, and little as our naval officers were es yes
acquainted with steam navigation—for the asks of those evo-
lution end that practice, in the absence of which perfect
edideac in either officers or men was linpordble, it was
that we should always have the means of
those of and men to sea. (Hear, hear.) Feiner a
set as an example in this teepee which we should do well
not to neglect. (Hear, hear.) The French government did
not allow their casts to be leR defenceless—they did not
allow their officer., or mat to be without proper opportunities
of praising. (Hear, hear.) On the contrary, the Emperor of
France with that sagacity and prudence which characterised
him, had lately teamed to be assembled at Toulon a force
of line-of-battle ships for practice end familiarising the ofd-
oars and the crews with naval evolutions, and he hoped be-
fore the close of the approaching summer this country would
also have • squadron of line-of-battle ships and frigates for
the ewes
oigotarriLyHe bad been assisted oy very
b.ddi naval and he could my Jr them, as he
said himself, that had only one °Wet, end
that was the attaining of a proper economy— there
should be no unnecessary expenditure, but at the
same dine to maintain the naval force of England at such a
point as was required for the honour and safety of the
country. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.)
On the vote of 69,380 seamen and boys for the naval
service for the yaws 1868-69,; including 16,000 Royal
Maries,
Sir C. NAPIER complimented the right hon. gentleman
on him clear and straightforward statement. He admitted
that the navy was at present in a satisfactory state, bat coca-
meted on several instances of negligence and false economy.
Sir C. WOOD defended himself from the Imputation of
having made improper reductions in the navy last year for
alsotionawing purposes. The order was issued after the
election. He signed at some length that the numerical fore
of the navy was not impaired by the measures of the late
government. The proposed reduction in the dockyards
would ha, in his opinion, highly inexpedient.
Mr. DRUMMOND mid that we were never safe from a
amp de asetios on the part of Frame. The Emperor had
shown what the feeling of Fromm was by recently calling
out the naval conscripts. His own sentiments were friendly,
but be did not conceal the hostility of his officers.
After various explanations on matters of detail from Mr.
CORRY,
Sir 0. PECHELL gave credit to the First Lord of the
Admiralty for listening to the complaint of the officers at
Oresawich Hospital.
Mr. BENTINCK was against all reduction, and hoped
that those proposed by the First Lord of the Admiralty
would not be persevered in. He rejoiced to hear that the
Channel fleet was to be put in proper order, sad blamed
severely the negligence of the late government respecting It.
Admiral WALCOTT also protested against all reduction
at =" CLARENCE PAGET objected to the construction
of large lins-of-bottle ships, which would be superseded in
time of war by liOter vessels. In ten yeas not a three-
decker would be known in the service. He thought that it
would conduce to the intonate of the navy if, when a ship
wee paid off, the crews could be kept together, and strenu-
ously urged the introduction of the principle of competition
into the navy.
Lord PALMERSTON agreed that the Insular position of
this country rendered naval protection essential to its secu-
rity ; but in considering what should be the application of
the fends voted for naval purpose, prelerence, be thought,
should be given to the peepers on of material; the building
of ships, and the augmentation of dock7arda mid stores rather
than having • greater number of men actually employs&
The redos and retrenchments proposed by the present
government, in his opinion were not wise or prudent.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE objected to any reduction in the
estimates for steam machinery. That machinery was of the
utmost importance to the efficiency of our ships.
Sir J. PAK INOTON, in reply, declared that he could not
go to the length expressed by some speakers against line-of-
battle ships. The government had no intention whatever of
the building of ships. They merely prop to
oimid
teduabandoece& expenditure lxy using hired labour.
Sir C. WOOD made • few explimadons, after which
Mr. HORSMAN commented on the absence of superiority
in our naval resources over those of France, while we had so
much larger commerce to protect. The house would not re-
tries the neosentry supplies for placing the country ia the
position which It ought to occupy.
After some remarks from Mr. K mix= mid Mr. W.
Wri.Litus,
The vote was then agreed to; es were also the *Mowing
1,401,6691. Jr the wages of seamen and marina.; 677,3571.
for &pie for ammo sad marine* • and 70,0001. for the
officers end contingent expanses of the Admiralty-Aloe.
The CHAIRMAN thee reported program.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.

On the order of the day for going into committee o the
Custatite Duties Bill,
' • • - • •

Lord PALMERSTON inquired what business the go-
vernment intended to premed with on Friday P
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The navy
animates firet and the army estimates afterwards, if there is
time, as I hope there will be.
Lord PALMERSTON—And the budget?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—On
Monday.
Sir C. WOOD observed that it was canal to tab the two
great votes fee the army end navy before the
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUVatid ft wee
usual bat not . There was no reason. however.
why it aloshl not be done in the present isirtancet es the
navy estimates wets not likely to occupy much time. It was
certainly the intention of the government to take the budget
on Mcaday.
The bill then paned threstgit committee.
The Traders Bill was reed a eseand time.
THE OATHS BILL.
On the motion of Loud Joan Rossus, this bM wee reed
a third time and passed, amid loud chars.
CASHEL ELECTION.
The order of the day for resuming the adjourned debate on
this bill was discharged.
CHELSEA HOSPITAL AND CHELSEA WATER-

slows of Chelsea Hespita end the Goveence and Halel
in
&Chelsea Waterworks, of Lads the perishes
George* Hanover-square, and St. Mamma's, Wesaidesier.
in the minty of Middlesex."
The house adjourned at 20 =hurts' to 1.

NAVAL AND MILITARY.

Ammumr, APRIL 12.—Apponmans.--The
isdirrosaticoad Wan hive point=l7
cionunenders in the Costa Guardservice.—Co
Hoard (1860), A. D. W. Fletcher (1866), vice Commander
T. Lyseiht, whose period of gravies is espired ; and H. W.
Comber (1557), vim Commandtr Gennys, deceased.
Lieutenant J. A. W. Martin, to command the Pinto, 4.
wrde-wheel deem vessel, wen coast of Africa station, viii
burn, promoted.
Aram 10.—Lientssent H. Gibson (1849), to the
=Pon, 91, screw stem ship, et Devon
alen J. J. Gregory, to the Mar "mob, screw steam ship, at Portsmouth.

CORK, Aram 9.
Two companies of the Royal Elthorae
under Captains Woodall and Lane, will march be ILMosle
on the 13th to =largo a coons of rifle instruction. Odor
eMaiwill relieve them. •
Lem eicesteerhire Militia will leave Cork on the 12iii be
the Currogh
coin Militia.Militia.Camp, and will be succeeded by the assik Us.
Captain Hawker's troop of 3rd Light Dragooos, with Lime.
Morpky will shortly leave Cork foe Northridge, and will be
wWarad by soother of the mime
Ookmal Poynter, 8.A., C.B.raoood b 7
will visit Kinsale mast week to approve of the
emaraping ground for the Royal Artillry, who orttio-
Balm:oft by batteries, to go through a course of timid
risottos.
The takers of the Cork garrison will play this muting the
following pietas " Blighted Being," " in her Teems,"
and the Boarding Schad," in aid of the orphans of
Masao.

ROYAL Exourim.—Colonel Broaghton, now
commanding at Cork, bat bun ordered to reline Colonel
Hamilton at Van MOM'S Land.

PEMBROKE Dom U t, steam
troop !hip, arrived here ca the 9th with a detsohmoat of the
26th Reg ent from the Isle of Wight, to be attached to the
depot battalion here. Having embarked a detachment of the
80th she proceeded on to Cork with them the same day.
During the late tremendous rains the hut encamprosats were
found greaLly upped.
New EIDIOPEAN REGIMENTS FOR BENGAL.—I 2
will begratifying to our military readers to Merl that the
Court of Directors have resolved to rake three doable
European regiments for the Bengal Presidency. These new
will absorb the rakers of six of the disbanded tive
; thus, in some rasasure, solving the difilmanallzes
to what is to be done with the unattached °Ears.
will be recognised y all parties aa prompt sad Judi.
eiona.-41ktes ndia* b _ _ _

Hlarsow:adeneral Beeteon arrived at
Hyderabad on the 18th of February, and commenced at cone
recruiting for the irregular cavalry. Several officers have
been placed at hie disposal by the Madras government.
SUICIDE OF LIEUT. DOUGLAS, or THE 82ND.—WO
ere hammed that Lieutenant Douglas, of bet Majesty's 82nd
Foot, committed suicide the other day. He was ordered to
attend adjutant's drill of an evmthg, and having tried boli
fated to coupe the dleagreeable task, he shotblmesif through
the heed with • revolver.—Neftswiltle, March 2.
TEE WRECK OF THE AVA.—Captain Crowther
returned to Madras yesterday, bringing blot a couple of mail
borne recovered from the wreck of the Ave. He found the
whole vessel so deep in the water that it was vain to attempt
to get anything out of her without proper divers and suitable
wanly& With these he will shortly ',turn, her Majesty's
steamer Chesapeake having, we believe, fortunately brought
round from Calcutta an experienoed diver.—ldadrat 6pre-
take., March 10.

FATAL TIGER MT NT.—The Madras Spectator
regrets to announce the death of Lieutenant H. P. Power, of
the 36th N.I. The melancholy intelligence was commie&
Wed to our contemporary in the following extract of a leder
from Harryhar :—" Poor Power is no more. After firing Us
tigerfrom a tree, he was toe impatient, and would not kers the
rest to the beaters, but got down and followed the tiger, who,
with a tremendous roar, turned and immediately killed him.
A Sepoy who was with him behaved very, well, but the
Shikares made a bolt of it, gun in hand, and sent it back to
the Sepoy, who finished off the tiger. The beast had either
with his teeth or dawn opened an artery under the arm, and
Power was dead In two minutes."