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London, England, 1859-06-30 00:00:00

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sent of President of the Bowel of Trade. (Loud ap-
plause.) I think an answer to that latter is due to him in
the first place; and all I can say is, that whatever step I
may take will be founded entirely on what I believe to be the
Interests of the public In this question. (Hear, bear.) You
must be good enough to bear US mind that, in a case of this
kind, the patty binvelf interested is the only one who can
fairly end properly come to a et-actuate°, as he alone bears the
resposnibility-of that idea; and therefore he ought in duty
to himself, as well as to the public to give it a careful and
deliberate consideretion. Mr. Cobden then expreased his
sincere thanks for the kind and hospitable welcome which
they had given him on hie return from America, and con-
cluded amidst loud applause.
Mr. Conner', in replying to the address of the Liverpool
Financiel Reform bimodal*" said—l have long had the
opportunity of observing the sound, but somewhat bold, and
I may say audacious declaration of principles which has
characterised the Liverpool Financial Refotm Amociallea. I
believe them to be sound, entirely sound—as sound l prin-
ciple as the repeal of the corn laws. I agree entirely with
you that the man, cr body of men, who could procure the
abolition of the customs and excise &Übe of this country, or
any country, would be the greatest benefactors that the
country coal possibly have—(applause)—though I lOW at
once say—end I say it without at all contemOating
any prospective embarrassment from being President
of the Beard of Trade—(laughter)—that 1 look upon
the adoption of the principle at present as impracticable. I
see that you have auerd.4l yonensives by saying that you
wieh w see the prisciple carried out as nos as may be. In
revolving the subject in my awn mind, Iwe frequently in
doubt whither we Sc, not all nailer the same delusion with
ringed to the question of direct or indirect taxation as Sir
Robert Peal war with regard to the practicability of apply-
ing free trade peinciplee, as between pretsetiou and free
tied& As far as I could understand the working of Sir
Robert Peel's mind it always appeared to roe that he was
from the very first as good a free trader as any of us, but
that he had the impression that it was impounds te vary out
the principles of free trade without Weaving so great en
amount of injury upon the protective interest, as to reader
the thing utterly hepelent to day wise and prudent minietry.
If our discussions in parliement did anything I think they did
din—they tended to convince Sir Robert Pool that not only
VOA free trade true in the sbetrect but that it might be
applied prectioally without inflicting those serious derange-
ments which he so much dreaded. lem not quite sure
whether, if you could sweep sway the cuittoces and excise
duties and substitute the whole amount of taxation you
require to levy upon property, bringing In labour in the moat
moderate form fora capitation tax, as they do in America—
where it is more nominel than real—l am not quite awe
whether, If that were done, such would not be the enor-
mous growth of wealth and property in consequence of
Inyour having converted the country tato a free port—giving
fact, to England all the start which Singapore and Ham-
burg derived from free trade—l am not quite clear that at
the end of tan years every owner of property would not find
himself so much better off, in the increased value of his lead
consequent upon the increased !manias@ and socumulation
of wealth In this great port, as to be the greeteet gainers of
anybody. (Cheers.) Of comes I always oseume that your
taxes would be levied by a direct Impost, and that you
would not speed 70,000,00 W. or 80,0°0,0001. ewe-
. Bag, some 40,000,0001. or 60,000,0001. being probably
foetid enough for your annual expenditure. I find in
America, Ebel although the taxes fez the federal government
—about 14,000,0001. or 16,000,0001. sterling per annum—are
levied entirely by cuetoits defier with the exception of a
smell amount accruing from the salei of public lands, all the
internal expenditure of the separate States is levied by a direct
impost upon property, with generally a small capitation tee,
to take is the I +bower, to the event of di., or W., or Ba. e
year, as may be. In travel ng through the interior of the
country I was setonished at the amount of direct
taxation which some individuals bear. While look-
ing, In Cincinnati, et the alters of a madman who
grows a description of wine called the Catawba wine, a wine
celebrated on the Wake of the Ohio, his partner told me that
this gentleman paid bard year la direct taxation towards the
expenses of the state of Ohio, the county in which they live,
end the city of Cincinnati, an amount of 35,000 dollars, or
7,0001. sterling. The amounts paid in other towns are
'noncom. In conclu e Mr. CoWn said the point to
which he particularly wished to call attendee wee, that the
system of taxation did not reetu is the @lighten degree to
impale the prosperity of the States. He thanked the mem-
bers of the emaciation for the earnest end zealous manner in
which they had, In the midst of external datimme, kept the
lamp of financial reform burning. (Cheers.)
In reply to the address from the Peace Society, Mr.
COBDEN said he was not esttained to avow hie adbasien to
the,pinciples of p ores, and that be new knew a tin* whew,
the advocacy of peace principles was more Deaconry than at
present. He would not be charged with any desire to see
Er gland thrown upon the mercy or forbearance of any power
on earth, though, to prevent his being misunderstood, he bad
no hesitation In saying there what he had said d. ease of
times is private, that he would rather see a national dad
equal to the prevent expended to defending our shores than
be would see England in occupation for elm menthe by a
French army, though they cams as professed Meade.
(Loud cheers) Ile honoured the gentlemen who, in seaeou
and oat of season, advocated the cause of peace.
They would always find him true to the I rinciplea
which he had enunctated. Even if he had not a moral re-
paguance to war, be hoped be should always have an intel-
Lctual abhorrence of it, as being the most stupid as well as
the most Vidal of all devices to arrange the diftieulties and
disputes of nation,. The time would come when the conduct
of nntlona in reeorting to war to settle a question which at
the mid could only be settled by mem and dfacumion, would
be looked at with abhorrence—he meant int-llectually.
(Cheerio.) Men would be ashatnet of it as rational Wince,
and the world's opinion would be strong enough to put under
bas and restraint any nation that should etlempt to pursue
so stupid a comae.
A deputation from the Liverpool Reform Club, consisting
of Moors. J. Cope, J. nobiliary., Thomson, J. Robb', G.
M'Cronal, F. I.May, and O. Millerard, presented the follow-
ing address:
" To the Right Hon. Richard Cobden, M.P.
"Dear Mr,—Permit the council and members of the Liver-
pool Reform Club to offer their felicitations upon your safe
and opportune (Mara to your native country, during your
absencefrom which honours unparalleled have been conferred
upon you by your unsought return to parliament for the
borough of Rochdale, sad the high dietiection of being sp.
pointed one of her Mejeety's advieersin the Council of State;
honours which, we trust, you will see your way to incept,
and we do not doubt that you will for the future U. as in
the past, the consistent advocate of civil, religious, and corn-
, mercial freedom.—(6igned on behall of the club),
" Taos. COPE, lion. Sec.
" Reform Club, Liverpool, June 29, 1869."

Mr. Commx, M his reply to the above address, urged the
necessity of united action amongst the working jump, with-
out which no really good measure of reform cmild be esta-
blished. Hie sympathise for the cause of prove...rive reform
were not weakened by his recent experience in Americo.

toy accuracy, to the public newspapers. It sprites from
your own statement that your committee have in their hands
a copy of Lord Derby's letter to me. If they think that a
wrong construction has been pest ea the letter and that Lord
Cbandoe's cause is Wing injured In oosasquenee, the remedy
Is la their own hands. In jostle, to Pip...elf I shall tiecd thin
letter at onoe to the public newspaper.—l have the honour
to be, dr, your obedient savant,
nICHARD GREBWiLL.
"The Rev. C. Cookson, Lord Chaadoes Commitke•room."

EDINBUROff.—The Lord Advocate was returned
without opposition rot Tuesday. In addressing Ito electors
his lordship said he truaed that the strung Wands in which
the country had now placed the reins of power, would be
able, before long, to bring about a peace, and that if not,
this country would proems strict centrality. In conclusion,
kis ketehlp espreseed himself favourable to the Volunteer
Aitle Corps mvement.

lIILRYLEBONE.
Yesterday the Riget Hon. Sir Benjamin Hall,
Bart. (now Baron Llanover), attended at the Vestry-hall of
St. Pancras for the purpose ad addressing the representative
vestry, end taking leave of them on the occasion of his relin-
quishing the reprasentation of tho borough, end hla elevatrin
to the peerage. There was an uouru.lly full attendance;
lir. D. E. CADIEtiON, tke senior churchwarden, occupied
the chair. _ _

Mr. Clerthwerden raItRISS, after ems approjniste re-
ared* reposed the following resolution : —•' That this
vey do record there high appreciation of the endnent and
tells services rendered by the Right Hoe. Baronet Sir
Benjamin Hall (now meted Baron Lianovir), as ose the
representatives of the borough of Maryleboce duringg
the
last 2S years, and rupees their beet thanks for his watch-
fal regard of all msurrs affecting rho interests of this parish,
and acknowledge his invariable county in receivingall
commuter:4lone from this realty, and tender their sincere
coagrandarions on his elevation to the peerage of the United
Kingdom." (Load cheers.)
Mr. &roc% rex seconded the resolution.. _

Lord Ltanovera said hi felt deeply the kind manifestation
of feeling towards bin from all parts of the borough on the
occasion of him resigning the trait which had been reposed
In him for a period of two and twenty years. (Cheer's.)
He felt that he could •not leave the Hoteso of Commons
without et endieg there, as well as the other !veil boards,
to thank them for the pewerrfal andetance he had received
from those bodies at all times dating the beg period he had
represented the borough in parliament. After representing
flarylebone for needy a quarter of a century it might
uneasily to supposed that ha was linked to it by so many
Ms that be felt Ws severance very keenly, and with many
sources of regret. (Hoar, hear.) He had already stated
the dreamstancee which had led to his refitment as repre-
sentative of the borough, and as his statement had gone fool to
the world, and they had no doubt seen it, he would not troufile
that assembly with &repetition of it. (Hear.) Tide he 'rebid
ley, that he retired from the repreameation of that borough
with the anscionmeas and the conviction that ha had over
discharged his duties as Its member with leitliftellemes and
homier. (CheentinHe had always felt grateful tothe eketora
for the kind way which they bad as a body supported him,
and he was sere they felt petalled te Ides for the services he
had rendered them. (Cheers.) Although this severance
' took place between them, and in it be felt deep regret,
they must not suppose that, in sammitig the position to
which by his Sovereign's favour he had been called, he was
about to Isms his gamer of osefulnem. From his poet-
' elm, he believed he was se well as any one fully • minted
not owntliy with the wears el the metropolis, but of that h
them
&sin their rerpreee. Aintativek"':ashereatuei hist be severetid.w2l they
would find hint (the noble lord) at all times ready to serve
them, and they should have the same access to him that
tidy. h always had. (Loud cheery.) •
Mr. Howes JAMES. M.P., sad he ,fished to say a few
1 words on the lees which he es well as the borough was about
to mutate, and which he believed would have the effect of
Inducing him to claim the forbearance of his onetituents,
deprived as he should be of the kind and cordial support of
his friend and callesgm. The loss of such awn as the
noble lord from the Home of Commons at such a crisis as,the
present was • most aerates one, and could sot be easily sup-
plied. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord had ever been found
raking his voice and his hand in vindication of that great
principle which he (Mr. Junta) looked upon in the safeguard
of English liberty—local 'elf-government. (Chem.) He
had ever been the advocate of popalar principles-(hear,
hear)—and when he took his seat in the Hone. of Lome, be
believed they would there field him, as they had aver fund
May the consistent and honest advocate for the advancement to
of the rights and liberties of the people. (Loud cheers.)
Lord Vanover then left the lt oetry-hall amidst reiterated
rounds of applause,.

THE EIGHT RON. B_7I7ART.R7ORTLEZ AND MR.

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