The Express.
London, England, 1860-03-20 00:00:00

The Duke of NEWCASTLE said that he hod listeaed

with treat attention i;Ti.744;1,;;;T:,:a4;;:a:1h.;;;
and a half, but was at a loss to see how be established any
connexion between the evils he had put before their lord-
ships and the remedy he proposed. The vote of every nun,
he thought, must be considered as a trust—if not strictly in
the legal, yet in the moral and political sense of the word.
A man's vote was given to him to be exercised for the
public good ; and it was right that lie should
be made responsible for it, by being submitted
to the course of public opinion. Their lordships'
votes were a trust ales: they were responsible
for them to public opinion ; and he must say he
thought that an attempt to take their lordships' votes in
that way would be as distasteful to the public as it un-
doubtedly would he to their lordships. If they did away
with the mime of responsibility, sad the influence of politic
opinion, they would be striking a greet blow at freedom
itself, and taking one of the surest Mops possible towards
demoralising the people. He thought that the force of
public opinion should be brought to bear still more strongly
upon the practices at elections which had occasioned so much
astonishment and scandal. Their lordships hail done a great
deal already ; let them only persevere in the same course,
and he believed they might anticipate—if not in their own
lifetime, yet before any great lapse of year., a state of
things in which a man might be able to vote without the
servile fear of any tyrannical interference, and without
seen=to throw secrecy like • clef* of darkness over his
inp, as being his only safeguard and security. (Hear.)
The LORD CH4CE,LOR then put the resolution to
the house, and their lordships divided, when there ap-
peered in the minority three noble lords, besides the tellers,
the Earl de Orey and Lord Teynham.
Before the annonalosiment al the numbers,
The Earl of DEBBY rose, but immediately afterward',
on being reminded by the Lord Chancellor of the forms of
the house, took his seat andaddressed their lordships sitting,
as did the other noble lards wise teak part in the subsequent
easivereation. The Roble earl said that before the numbers
were announced he wished to call their lordships' attention
to the fact, that while the question was being put, lie be-
lieved one of the SOUS lords who acted as teller, and two who
voted, were out al the house. He believed that in order to I
be entitled to vote it was necieseary that peens should be
within the home when the question we. put.
The Berl of MALIORBURY confirmed the observation
of the Berl of Derby.
The LORD OHANCELLOR mid that the rule was as
the ankle earl (Deeby) had Mated it to be.
The Ball DB GREY and RIPON acknowledged that be
was net within the technical bruits of the house when the
peedien was pd.
Lord BELPER explained that Lord Llanover and him-
self, the two other noble lords referred to, were standing
maids the partition when the question was begun to he
pet ; but before it was concluded they had stepped within
' tile boundary, and had taken their seats at the back of the
bishop' beech.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE said that as the Earl de
Grey had admitted that he wm not present his vote must
be slreek out but he presumed the noble earl would not
press his objection with regard to the two other uoble lords
who had Meted that they were preseut whilst the resolution r
wee reed
The lad al DERBY said he hail no wish to press the
obieedas. He oily wished Mall their lordehips' attention
ths ahrowlesse.
Tim vote et the Earl de Grey was then cancelled, after
which the whim stood tins—

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The resolutkee wee eoweerieatly I.
SELLING AND HAWKING GOODS, kr ~ ON
SUNDAY BILL
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moved the 'weed reading of this

Lord
hal
The Duke of NEWCASTLE said he thought it would be
suryundesintbletluittbere shouldbeany immerse...outs wish
talons this measure through the house. The bill was intro-
dead only on Tuesday last ; and therefore the persons
most elected by it had not had sufficient opportunity of
essaidarieg it.

After some conversation it was atreosuo the, the bill 10.•
read a second time pro forme, with the iimirr,tariding that
any objections might oe taken upon going into committee
ca Um bill.

--The Earl of ST. GERMANS suggested 1,. the noble lord
(Chelmsfonl) that before the bill went into oommittee he
should direct hi attention to the evidence taken on this
subject before the committee of 1SSI), of which he (Fart
St. Germane) wax a member ; and especially that he should
take.the opinion of persons in the pinitionuf the Chief Cum-
nossioner of Police, and others, as to the probable workiug
of the bill.
The bill was then read a second time.

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ATTORNEY'S, SOLICITORS, PROCTORS, AND CER-
TIFICATED CONVEYANCERS BILL.
VALUATION OF RATEABLE PROPERTY (IRELAND)
BILL.
These bills were read a third time Jiel pw-wel ; sad their
lordships eellotimed at 25 militates met 7.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MoNu.ty, MAsca 19.
The 9ewcza took the chair a few minutes before four
o'clock.
PRIVATE BIIIHNEss.
The following bills ware read a third time and passed
The Great Western Railway ; the Hendon corporation and
Borough Improvement; the Wem and Stony mirth Rosa.;
and the York Improvement, kc. ,
The following bills were considered and ordered to lie
upon the table :—The Ambergate, Nottingham, soil Boston
and Eastern Junction Railway am, t'onal Company ;
Cheshire Midland Railway ; East :tome/set Railway ;
Glossop and Merple Bridge Road Loudon and North
Western Railway (No. 1) ; London and North Western
Railway (No. ;);
.Merple New Wills and Hayfield Junction
Railway ; MMland Railway (Barton-upon-Yreox Erno,,,he„,
and Deviations); Blirfield Gas ; North Reitiah and Peeldeis
and Jedburgh Railway Companies ; Oxford, Worcester, surd
Wolverhampton and Severn Valley Railways ; Oxford,
Worcester, and Wolverhampton, Newport, Aber,;aveuny,
and Hereford and Worcester am! Hereford ItailwaYs ;
Stockport and Woodley Junction Railway ; and the Man-
chester and Buxton Road Bills.
The following bills were read a wooed time :—The Bucks
County Bate; Croydon Gas; She Meld entlers' Ounipuuy
Bills.

HER MAJESTY'S ANSWER TO THE JOINT AD-
DRESS OF BOTH HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT ON
THE TREATY WITH PRANCE.
Viscount Caaruntorom, Vice-Chamberlain of her Ma-
jesty's Household, in his °facial ciartuure, appeared at the
bar, and stated that her Majesty had been graciously pleased
to receive the joint address of both houses on the treaty
with France, and had returned the following answer :
"I thank you for your loyal and dutiful &MM.s. It is
most gratifying to me to receive your assurances that after
I have concluded a treaty of commerce with the Emperor of
the Preach, you are prepared to give effect to a system
which will tend to promote a benefkoal intercourse between
this country and France, and which holds out additional se-
curities for the continuance of peace."
THE BEVERLEY ELECTION COMENTITEE.
Mr. EVANS, the chairman of the committee appointed
to try the merits of the petition presented against the re-
turn of Mr. Walker at the last election for Beverley, ap-
peared at the bar and read the following report .4 the com-
mittee :--That James B. Walker, Esq.. was duly elected a
burgess to serve in this present parliament for the borough
of Beverley ; and that several electors were bribed at the
last election, but that each bribery was not committed by
Mr. Walker or his agents.
REFORM BILL.

Colonel SYKES gave mike that, in ecenniittee on
the Reform Bill, be desk! more • gradual dis-
franchisement of the smalls* lsoreerhs, to be replaced by
towns of increasing size and perdition • the disfranchised
towns to have retched • Dadaism of lob electors.
Mr. STEEL asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs if tenants who paid Si. rent and upwards M any city
or borough, but whose landlords orgispounded for the poor
rates, would be entitled to vote adder the new Reform Bill;
and would tenants who paid the like rent of tit and up-
wards by quarterly or monthly payments, who bold from
year to year, be also entitled to vote; and, if not, how
could these parties become so entitled
Lord J. RIISEELL said that the 6/. tenant, would be in
exactly the same position se were the 101. tenants at lire-
sent. In answer to the aecond question, he did not think
that the mode of payment would disentitle the tenant;
but this was a question for the reviming barrister.
ARTILLERY OFFICERS.
Captain JERVIS asked the Secretary for War whether
taking into consideration the importance attached at the
present day to artillery throughout Europe, there was any
attention to place the officers commanding the British artil-
lerry in the principal stations abroad and at hone., including
Aldershott, In a position compatible with their duties by
giving them the rank of brigadier-general.
Mr. S. HERBERT was understood to say that if the hon.
and gallant member meant, were artillery ortivele to he
made brigadiers over other troops, that was net intended.
If he meant whether they were to have equivalent rank
over their own branch, the matter was under couaidenstion.
TUdICIBH MEDALS.
Mr. COLLINS asked the Secretary of State for War
when the Turkish silver medals which had been received
from the Ottoman government would bo limed to those
officers and non-commissioned officers who were entitled to
the same who were now serving in regiments of militia?
Mr. S. HERBERT said that. the Turkish mold* had al/
gone to the bottom in the Pomona. (A laugh.)
VOLUNTEER ADJUTANTS.
Colonel OREVILLE asked the Secretary of State for
War if it was the intention of the government to sanction
the appointment of paid adjutant, to each Isegiiiient of
volunteers.
Mr. S. HERBERT said it was the intention of goverument
to appoint volunteer adjutants.
NICE AND SAVOY.
Mr. KINGLAKE, in rising to ask the question of whirls
be had given notice, said that he had never risen with more
pletioure to address the house than be did on the premed,
occasion; for he rejoiced in being able to say—uultua some
must inexplicable hoax had been practised on him -that the
latest news from Nice was of the meet gratifying Ile,wrip-
tion. (Hear, bear.) They had been told that the
people of Nice were must anxious to become allied
to the great empire of Fninoe, and that if a
small and insignificant faction thought otherwise,
and wished to remain annexed to Sardinia, they were not to
be indulged in their malignant loyalty. He heal within
the bet hour and a half received a telegram stating that
the municipality of Nice had voted to remain annexed to
the kingdom of Sardinia—Bold cheers hunt loth
side.; of the hotted- - and it had also tieelarett
that if France Aloud declare that their remain-
iug annexed to Sardinia was incempatible. with the
sdety of the French frontier, then the mwecipal coun-
cil of Nice anxiously prayed that they might remain au in-
dependent state. (A laugh.) The telegram went on to
say that a deputation had gone on from Nice te Turin, to
Larry thither the decision of the municipal council, and that
a vote of thanks had been passed to three member. of the
British parliament, one of whom was the hon. member for
Horsham, and another the hon. baronet the member for
Tamworth, whom be (Mr. Kinglake) hoped be might he
permitted to congratulate. It was extremely gratifying to
him to see the sou of a man who bad exercised such e vast
influence over the fate of empires thus earning the thanks
of a distant people. (Cheers.) The question
which he bad given uotioe was one which he ventured
to ask with a view to the course he should
pursue with regard to his pending motion. There was vetYryy
naturally a great anxiety on the part of many honourable
members to know the course he meant to take; hut the
truth was that the affair of the anuexation of Nice well
Savoy had been so constantly peeing into new plow. that
it was extreniely difficult to know the ceset time and the
exact form in which to bring it before the house. And he
must be perntitted to say, although he did not ate it iu any
spirit of taunt, that the communications the home
had received from her Majesty's government had
varied very considerably. On 'Tuesday they were
told by the First Lord of the Treasury that
he hail every reason to suppose the oOnitin of the
great powers would be sincerely asked, and followed by the
French government; but on Friday the noble hid the
Secretary for Foreign Affairs spoke in such". way as entirely
to dis.ipete the hopes which might previously lave teen
formed Thole circumstances made it difficult for hint to
know iu shirt form to submit, his motion. All he ~odd woe
was that he hoped to submit it in sash a form as should
tend to strengthen her Majesty's government, but 011 the
other land he should not shrink from putting it iu what-
ever form might be neotesary. At the eanc time be ale iuld
be ;met happy . to hand it over to tiny hon.
member who might be anxious to take charge of it.
The questions he wished to ask the noble lord were, find,
whether government bad received the appeal which was
uuderstood to lave beeu addressed, or was intended to be
addressed, to the great powers of Europe ; and aesaully,
whether government would weigh well the etatertienta eon.
Joined in that note, before replying to the doiatch of M.
Thouvenel. Lastly, whether government in replying to the
Swiss government, would also put themselves in carumuni-
cition with the other powere with a v:ew of obteining, if
pusible, a common action.
Lord J. RUSSELL add- -In answer to the first toestion
of my hon. friend, namely, whether government re-
ceived the note be describes, I have to say that ;area mutant
has not re eived such a note. With regard to the other
two questions, which relate to the tattoo course of her Ma-
iemy's government, I have to appeal to the homes for its
forbearance. (Hear, hear.) I elated the other evenhig that
deapetches of great importance had been received hum N.
Thouveuel, and sinew that time we have reedy.f the
same intelligence as my hon, friend, namely, that the
Swiss eovernnwut mean to appeal to Paris and Turin, tied
to send a note to all the great powers of Europe, with re-
prd to the annexation of Savoy and Nice. l'utler
these eircumatiewes I ask the forbeurance of the
house to leave her Majesty's government to de-
liberate freely, and at the same time tumidly.
on the wawa they may think limper to return to M.
Thouvenel. (Cheers.) It must be remembered that tie -
swans given in this house are not confined to this te
even to this country, but go all over Europe, as thev boo
bet u or nay be given under the differeut phases oaf the an-
ne:.ation, and that thus they may be lunously prejudithd
and entharrankig to the government. A tune must.
Wine when the conduct of government will have to Is: laid
before parlianteait ; but for the present I rest repot my
nepiest fur the forbearance and indulgence of the house.
THE EASTER RECESS.
In mower to Mr. SPOONER,
Lord PALMERSTON had no doubt but that the house,

lortiq Len calla! together this year enr!!er than anal, and
1...,i;r4 ;wen 1-h retied. 0..111 Le 6134 to hareem lees
a reae. as v., Id lo nirea. tioweaer. it must all depend as
the re ...TM w tio cert.l,ll bdl., 11111.,11!.:Qat pace ilikro
pre.ent his RIM out &Lk fLi any diy
lot the eilyourament.

BCO7efl WORN BILL

In ZJISIWOf to Mr: Hurl.

tar (.. Gro. INA that the &etch Reform Bill wosj .o
be.mbt forwar.l in the sheeoce of the Lord Advocate.
BEVOILI. —THE REPRESENTATION OF THE

PEOPLE BILL

L .e./ J. It!: *YELL moved the seeped reeding of this talL
tr. DLIK \ELI observed that theframere ,(this bill had
el 'mei I. r .. ths merit of siniplicity, but simplicity was .4
al. embalm,. • esinieter. The mid proposed Lc the hill ii...
"1, awe* .he laws misting to the in regehtatin of tl,«
Prl...k. ib .',114.4111 and Wain," and its Ilia irks erne the
in' .nsi n . f tin sudsy in comities and botough‘lll3ll a
S.. of Mari'. his Cl pewbeaseotu7 slate: but Le did sot
sie«. in in.. bill any amnia to the In-:Diary sal nes
ce...ry tie, • ~ .1 mil...tuition and facilities tor voting.
It oshin• . u .re indeed its planted 1 ..tures ;
some .4 tn.. provinces intimatelt onnected with
the franchise were entirely ignored. With ref,r•
111...0 to is first principle, tra, e5t...1.-lon of the Iran-
ch.., in 1.. ~ •11.. 11.) reisrked that the Lite government,
to their bill ditl ins look to 1111M1..r.. :at ... I.e 31/1414.1 of
thus who we-e to receive the e,tnage ::hi. ••-, ...t, bow'
ever. the lei :iris upon which the prism government had
pm orewired. The suet* borough constituency of England
was filhOak to while\ ameba this bill would add 217,040,
raid this el Leen sees eerie almost ea: welt of ..ne ho-
moxenaten. earn It was important to .cinder how this
am, cestitas sty ma set opal the old. In .one horteges
the constitiarsay said ha WSW. in other. doubled, and ~
semi cue-half af the beseeglis would he under the influeoee '
at the seu elm sheet to he enfratichiwil. He wishes! to put
ill glare the 1-....ec tate probable resit of theee facts. lid the
new she.. sh.,ra Do maisatioo a.. muting, or wore they in-
essible of ..e suisatis•. quite the revels«. The en-ling
41.
... a C.., ..,502, had 10.04/11 14 renuarkable talent for
eepanaujas. „,,,i a mew ef .hevltue and combiretion infe.
sees to sow, .wd t.. these class the hill was about to giro
pr. limiest 'gas He thought a measure which feuded
Ws constireency epos tin principle of swabs., 114. t fitness.
an) whit I. Added 000.0410 eh, tors. stml•sili use
lenngete....- elms, \Meg 160 1111111 e imaged, who
mold- se üb.Lise the wins of the present N.rough .
es. 'times,. wan net a wigs sal well eons ilered
min Ti. mist pried* way the resin tion .4 the
ea ..it. !...asities. Is reducing the qualiEcatis
go• t...e. Smokier se eassiderstion should, he said,
be eSsival : the mestltssney should be fairly connected
lash the i.4d primal, mil the chief industry .1 the
wen Cher. TWA great emblerstioa wee sot observed if
fire.n.aden. is a tows, where wiles might he epi,t, were to
le ,il.eired to - Ay for • diarist will which they had no
/sal quipath oe yonnexisa. Then the 4th clause, which
would desire. '“iw • gnat nibs of voters for counties,
caw-1.1 swath reduce the bilmee of the landed interest,
mid he Wipes.' to the bil beam the recoostructis of
Wee mad y ft...lichee beaded le diminah that salutary in-
Loma The turd IMAM elf the bill -the rediatrilatioe
ef parlassistsysege-he to dig the rusted that it
w. at toe far, err est far awl that it wee radintfly
lea-emaal. I Uwe (sostiaseel the right hon.
ad4ested
gee thmast I. the thee prhople. of the noble Imre
ICI Now what is the seams we ought to Wm in
irri ect le the meneme I TIM is the queetiyo. Wheel
II sr' a • led mama ("Oh r Saglder. .i 1 cheers.
'tee t, I Shish, in the illeVellla sput:.4. in regard to ''„t. ("Oh '.
gal cheers.) Is piN of het I believe I do out know
hare then tw.. ' eta perfectly spw.ve of it-via.,
the aebl. Niel the freaehey and the ma M for Bustle
ben /Uwe. how.) Aid lib I meat hey, the.: tic umber
he Ilitmesewne. with that email miesky which
asatealaw a the pereleime "him be "Strum tad pia*
gess sums he pesos it already i as that DO 11011.111 e
dies the bill la .• thee he shall agitate the many in wait
to obtain • 1111401 awe eetenehe ei=imahl(hetre.) Bat,
ff we reject this S U ea the seemed we kr.ow whet
mil: lie end -it will betea by the ked, "You
sr: aphis' pirinteenhey rotas-you are NOM windbag
Ille, benches.„ which whim yam me M • mpieneibieposition
yen younielses heseght in • hill le de." I san not agaim
entewlem the kancleirs • but I mi, If we we to dual with
the Sent as •111. I Oak the heassime might he extended.
Si, safely eamaied, in • way spa the whole benellatel to
WA? create... My oriels, so Iler se I sus fern an estimate
*era the Weisman a my he that miter the bill
of hell tlie hearties scull hats been ante extended dm
M will be so. bar the bill. penises I No 0,4 spirt ex-
haling th- (mocks if it be necessary. nor eau I against the
eat stntt.tiou .4 sat. if it he that seat. should be
negiagribes.„ in ..nier to sea isito ptrlias,eptem repThieltill-
hr: post interests that snout sow saflkieutlirepteeruted.
I wish to we whether la C 04111114111 01 limonite the oonstite.
1111.110- if it be seeessery to ester late the question
- .eaay rot be iscreseed, because 1 thick they
ma • a. iscressid is a maser which walla
st.,,gtiree the comitatioa, sad beaus I think
the Ilan. and mserils are in missence 17 which
111......in0ct may be aileined. sad by whisk the onenntreisl,
ityv wisaulaterieg, sad the working Mews in thwas might
Imre as inginesit power of representing their opinion a
this haw. while on the ether had, that due 'ought and
he sew., a. importazit and MO asamemy. to ;he mush. a
Ill! weeny...
4- t 1... landed 1111111114 Sushi I.e fairly and
sigh sway reprem :dad. (Hoar, beer.) fend. ee, so far
t a. o. a0.•.,+.1* .1 priori of this till is soseerall I am sot
je -ided in snag, though I thin', the ' Se el the
reincipl« I. sod 04.yi. .c..nalie. that. wet to re lict the
Vet
bill 00 tie: s c.'. e reading. (Hen, lust.) e shall nave am
epportuai.y of es •..lenn; the bill in cosemitteit Whet
wig you it.. e committee! That will be deferred to • pried
that will roil& all der. ies, high or low, deeply to etensida
the iv.t..,..ihilitr which nuts ups tease who have to deal
with shjecte .4 viol' inipirtnace. I de to• feel called
span nu • n. inmate what may be dome by myself or my
hand, wren the 1411 is in eentinittsw. I am not
at nil gum whether 1 Sall prepay anything
myself after Ester. I am not sure whetter toe mann-
hil.'y .4 the measure may is,t, wwidering the cireum•
moss* eater whi. h it was introduced sal projected, fairly
est with the saki lord :IA b-r Majesty's gover.rnent.
(lirer.) !Med. if 1 weru to take • listed Gala party
view of the amegnerica. of thin bah it w....i1d hot - for
the c.a. receive party that I abould feel sty eery great
stem. I de not think that the 100 lernw;ia of England
that are to be delisted ov..r to one cLis eh. se intense,
mat «spinosa, and habits are iotrie.cAl- I do u..t thiul. thus
100
bonds are rip
anted, generally speaking, by mem-
the eemervative party. (Has, 1.e.0. ) And,
though it my deprive this house of a vast mauler
ef 'nemeses who sow alien it and give a. it weight and
nepasiliality and knowledge, and who, though they du
net it to the may benches as myself, I glioula mat tee lees
resist CI« absence ..fan a gout national calanaiy, I should
be wiry to *oath« vast Seuen.« and authority of the yids
party ossailel. It I. I now. ',au of the best scurities fur
public liberty ad gaol ;poem...eat is this country that,
Simi a temp takeg Vase« in the.' seninatratiuu of this
. eipantry, pas at lain 14 !LAMM over to the party
who, der • 'aids. er aide of tag loans they _ set, are
preparedt, to 1111110 that power upon Web as.)
set .0 American principles. (Hen, bear.) I think
I is useething what such chugs take place
that power should Idshrinded .....r to thue who respect the
tessittione of the country, and who will its finthfal to its
preserlptive claims. Therefor.. I should deeply deplore to
es this seises blow mess:haul! so far as the whin Ster-
nal is tuseentoil, and from hands from which, 00 years
soy we iambi net have expectod melt a blow se coma
(Her, hoar.) I shall, therefore, sot oppose the aimed
reading: bat I shell be ninon, when the h. in. • in am,
mitts on the bill. te ese whet propositions will be mole to
realer it, set in the Maim or Loa gentlemen opposite,
who hew elm* diem • great disposition to make
asoadwests, • bill that will not be injurious to the comas
try. It hes bees mid of English steno-,men that
11.1.:y sere mare remarkable foe tivr.r attii,a than
tar their presiencs I am sot surprised at that
Mae is Tato-, en active than • contemplitive creeoure. It
b the isivilege of met men of shinty to be
„ anew in snide; bet it is the privilege of very few to have
the pie. r .1 resection. I think ups the whole it is het-
ta I e bagletel that rah& spin' •.1 le this eooutrf elisead he
generally raiser is &draft v .if public usert liaa that it,
di...al-11w the revers. lee r-iolt has been le make this
most: 'ay a pr atioal se, awl although
aih.eW occasiowe stay '
w hove undored, it is bettor to bloater liy to se
all ntalia:teil ilystesu than to Wiener by • sew
system that be sever bees tried. (Hear, hear.)Betas
this parliamentary reform question I admit tiled &OM
eig,driones has hes much to blame. 1111811111 OS
b. co Sale that when the Duke of W
was 110104.1% and herore du. tirst &tam Hill,
ve.e ga..-a that wet, unhappily discardal, and
he. were lost that might hove bees seised with edam-
hp to du eteuttry :.a1 I take it for thst the ,
tole lea the ere ratan fee Forign Mak; re/amber* :
lb .. ramrod& indanoe.l w.....t of pre demo ca the part !
et -sr .4 the greatest men this coastry has ever predined. '
amid the gnat shames« whi.,ll was adroitly obtained by .
the whist party is KU in namgsmies. has always
br a sersonly alive Ist be eb.mkl make the same
no take, •sid I.- deacient in that preedeat 'redrew
W.,. h a .tateman 14 always 111141.11111 to exhibit.
Therefore I Isaias, that ww a, ten .....o. ago, the noble
loci ,e. j...' .1 Ski. gueetkm, lb, re-opened it from a sound •
la I hus..e penile.. The L 10.1441 4.11.4•1 el/10 history
Cl there tea nes The while I.'o has lea M raw
a rir ort ...... derioc that thee. He his kept tkieirtion '
al say. alive... tiyit when he was out of Ake would
sleet. is. film dos u oat .4 the armory .1 - Lad
haasialtal sis the fare .4 • conservative r . The .
jrizield
Woe had..... -.a when, s our opinion, the /mem be '
lessinated, sea we ealemourea to toriniste it an solidi-
Sone w.,a.h, I Shah, are a..w spoken of :nos kindly
to the 1•00/07 than who they were test iatue
away:, sae which r. edthoos. if they had been
• ......,91...164, trona base ..., trot the ..canituties.
But f 11.4iew the noble :..rd we pin zr.sts.‘ in 61/ '
ammo which he istrislau: tea wen ego, and that those
wt,., t 410 W Al Ida are also, s 10000 deg xe, to Lass.
Star t sm.* wee, le a sertais dews, is setf..leferses beaus
It Thl imermane to awry .11 th • gasses the
sis•.lh. the sedise was left ensittleil. 11 tide = I. .
r,..,. p, fillmi
ay awn c 4 the reepombility of theA pee-
n 4ttu. crailmel nele. however, may be sac le my ....,
a• yi in .new of the mask lad, Wide mateseeers, and hi*
collearues, that the Me ma oppartme if thaws were
soared. The thee se savior to sticipate politiod
t.......••.... The cosier try tree-pal awl •ro s •
them was • paged et foreign leseesilk4 sr= /U
se of

e dote ?stie en font. What is the condition of thin. now!
(lieu, hear.) IA the state . f afitine toe same as when the
amble bird and his suixelie.rs endeavoured to deal with
this question? A great military mans, matchless in valour,
with a public organietion more complete thantarit hae
existed since the days of ancient Rome, abounding
•uhe re.
soirees of men, mosey, and military material, sad so ess-
mound of glary that it hae freely bartered freedom for fame,
so longer conceals ita urpose of general enipee. So far
an Europe is
.concerned the prospect is infltutely more dan-
gerous den it wee in the dan of the great uenearch. In the
clan of Louie XIV. Europe was toll of military energy.
Buren now is prostrate and spiritism As for w England
is e. n- the pnrpect a infinitely more dangerous than in
the .'se .4 the French Repubbc, or in the days of the old
French Empire. Prune was Unmoor implacablefoe • Freon
is row our unswerving friend. Fiance then menaced our
hearths ; France sow decorates of citizens. Francs then
homer.' our trade by • contineudal blockade ; France now
Neil:tan, our commercial ititemoures by trestles of ooni-
I mere. There is nothing new to keep the English people
I mite hful and awake. Superiorto rapine, hardly condescending
to foret, Foam is budding up &colossal despotiem by all the
advanced arta and artifices of the most decided and declared
liberalism, by univenal suffrage—Omar, hear)—be' secret
voting—(hen, bear),—by electoral districts. ((leers.)
Will you never be warned! (Opposition cheer) Is
thes the time and the condition of affairs when 1
you should attempt feeble', but in the same track,
to imitate those political doctrines? Is this the time
when you should gill further deviate from that old, that
free, and that asktecesitie cementation which has framed
the liberties of Englishmen and &wend the empire of Eng-
land ? I meet my that is not my opinion. The noble lord
the Secretary of Bente for ForerstAlbairs, Once the night
when he entered late the fatal when he sat on this
side of the hews, Minh has placed ' governing= in con.
esquire,!. in • pietism of peat emberramment, has been
called upon to preside over se allies of the state very dif-
ferent from that which be thee contemplated. The noble
lord is in receipt every day of information respecting
ow foreign Affairs which may well niske him look
pave, and the perusal of which I think cannot
but teach hire that it is • great thing for a minister if he
car fall hack upon the ancient inatitations of a country
which have proved by their sonstenee their ability to stem
any storm. (Cheers.) Well, sir, that beig the one, I will
sot relinquish the hope that before we are summoned to go
into committee. • relieved How of Commons and a pato-
ful people will learn from the noble lord that this unueent.
slay. this on...idled for. and this mischievoos measure will
be withdrawn (Claws.)
M' LEATHAM regretted that her Majesty's ministem
had not thought it consistent with their duty to follow
the wane of proposing • large ant comprehensive
measure He regretted it, too, because the work of
to-day would have to he engsgsd in to-morrow --(hear)--
awl he regretted it still more, because the peat opportusity
for ee,•irtng the confidence et the people would be Deng
away. (Hear, hear.) When they got rid of the poles
the right hon. gentleman opposite, the member for
the nlicy ofcsoz corion aid distritat—end took the t
body of the into their .brlenee, they add
sew life to t state, new lustre to the crown, and*one=
centuriesto the history of din empire. (Hear, bear.)
Mr H !MILLIE said that the right hen. gentleman
the mernher for Bucks had recommended the withdrawal of
the measure before the house, but he (Mr. }ltalie), on the
tvotrary, trusted that the time had at length arrived when
the house could pus a measure of parliamentary reform
which might he satidaetory cot only for the pee.eut but for
the future. (Hear, bear.) If they pee up the pro,
Fern qualifies:ice of It/. they should eleadon all dia.
unction, and be thought the better principle to have pro.
ceded urset was that situated by the hon. member for
likenungharn, via., that all peewit should have the right to
vote who were rated to the relief d_ the poor. If they
antedated the present qualifioa the only alter-
native placed before them was this tii. rental or household
saf rage. and he would unquestioriably vote for household
suffrage, because practically that would be the suffrage in
all the metropolitan boroughs, and is most of the cower-
nal awl mansfactermg cities an I boroughs, and it would be
only to the smaller boroughs where they would flail minions
I. any clamber who were residing in houses below • rental
ef 71., and that would be no remora for excludieg them from
the operation of this bill, or disposseesing them of their
' *Waal rights. (Hear, bear.) He trusted the present
meeke would not be allowed to pass without ao
end Meg put to thee reform discussions, and that under
the swims of the t ministers • safe and satisfactory
anew would be obtained. (Cheered
Mr. BAXTER regretted that the noble lord should not
he= seen his way to the v.:optic* of the ballot, or to a
greeter redistribution of scat.. He (Hr. Baxter) bed nut
owe able to perceive much force in the objections which
had bees rained against secret voting. That system was
week* well in many of the maim:thou of this country:
the honourable member for Pontefract (Mr. Chillers)
had shown M his admirable speech a short time
ago that it answered in Australia . • and he (Mr. Baxter)
was able to say from peresal observation that it had not
bees Nought into discredit in the United States of Ame-
ns'. They heard a peat era) stories about the turbulence
a Americas elections ; but however wuch those stories
eagle toll some universal suffrage, they had nothing
whatever to do with to question of the ballot. (Hear,
bear.) In the United States se there w. far lens of real
liberty than there was in this countn. (Loud opposition
elmera) lkn woe there draggel at the chariot wheels of
a manner which co Englishman would tolerate •
EP= is
in..ne of the slates in which he hail lived a conekie:
snide time he must admit that freedom of epinios in political
soften was almost unknown. (Renewed cheered There
was • republican awl • democratic ticket. Thous tickets
wens et different odours, end the voters carried them in I
their lowir, or stuck them in the band of their hats ea
they went to the poll. That WWI ObilOWlLli Dt4 =trot voting. I
Then was no doebt tint the ballot hard been alcptect mI
Amnia simply as a mode of lakieg the votes as rapidly as
=fie, awl not with a view to . Is some states,
the tyranny of the mob (to w • he had already
referred as arising from universal siallege) was used not
against the democratic, but against the not-
errative setae of the electors, so as to prevent
the satinfactory working of • system of secret polling.
(Hear, hear.) On the aubject of the redistribution of the
oats, he had been anticipated b the admirable speech of
the hon. member for II . The noble lord talked
as if it was proposed to abolish all the small nomination
boroughs • but even in the whales of the hun. member for
BenninghLa there were 10 or 60 left, which would surely
be esficient to had seats for ministers whopotr happen
to rarer the temporary displeocire of more - coosti-
eseasies. He looped that the noble lord not been
indicted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who
last year contended for the preservati.,u of small borooghe
as a Meant by whisk young &Weenie might be introduced
into parliament ; and he supported his argument by • re-
ference to the case of Mr. Pelham, Mr. Pitt, Mr. Fox,
Lord Chatham, and Sir R. Peel Beautiful as all that was
in theory, it was inconsiesateith tile facts. He found that
Nano nes Debates in ISM contained • list of 62 smell
boroughs which returned 96 members to parleunent, and
which the noble lord lie his bill of that year proposed
partially or altogether to abolish. Now it so happened
that Dorf a Parlieeseisnerp Coreigoeion gave eh. ages of the
members who represented those boroughs ;and of the 96 hon.
gentlemen there was positively only one that was under 25 :
six were under thirty; vary few were under forty, and the
great majority had eampieted their half century. (Hear,
hear.) The fact we esedpr accounted for. The great land. '
Res had seek but one. sr at most hut two seats left ; sad
they remind than for their own members ; so that they
had none to spin far rising Fuzes or Pitt:. (Hear.) He
(Mr. Baxter) hoped that the noble lord would not stand in ,1
W way elf a more emnplete redistribution of eats. To
few modem= bad it fidles to do so much to strengthen the
linadatioas upon width ear social and political
privilege rested ea the noble lord Civil and religions
liberty, all must admit, owed mach to hint t and he (Mr. I
Baster) believed that this measure, with all its defects, if
peed into • law Os he loped would be the ease) would be
regarded by our descendants, not as having detracted from,
but as having added to lie political fame. (Cheers.)
Mr. BOLT =banned it would not he wise or prude=
to incur the risks white this neeentre promoted For hie
own part be must express his great surprise at the coolness
wtth yw:, the hos geetkeen talked of settling this ques-
tion for a quarter of • meter). What was • quarter of a
cowry when speaking of the onnetitutioe of the country ?
• (Hear, heir.) We trim peweediog from one change to
another, and the feet was that if this reform were carnal in
• abort time we should have to go further until we had
universal suffrage, and then the upper house would be
ProProffol to be set aade, and all our institutions 1
wild ewe unite review, and now could tell where
it weld mad. (Hear, bear.) It the principle .4 this
fags were to weaken, disturb, and lower the
eenesziou between property and representation, then
he (Mr. Bolt) Amid be prepared to give an emphatic
i "nay" to its passing. lie did not think the time beg'
I arrived when any change omit le be made. The malted
' laving, however, bees inhem up, be was willieg to eanidsr
what might be done. Ille ht
ling Amid adhere to
she prima* of 11102 so far as it west. aid set go on
step
fiert. The present bill handed over, st very many in.
ellibele, the boroughs from househeiders at 10f. and up-
emits to lueselioldses who Washita dwellings under la
in vale.. It had bees mid Diet people were growing in en.
bgliteeniest led ingenue/w; bus could hope by asy-
thing they could de is tee way pourd education
to accomplish more the. bed been ,lone in Amens?
Is the name of Ns amillessia, be must retest
against • memo= glib he believed ierioualy and delibe-
rately intended to ewer the memedea between property
mid represeatatien. (deer, beer.)
Mr. C .01.1418 LL deeMed bow few the as amid
a7tllo permanence • bat he w as far frees contending that
the decioins of the boor should Gond up= that cow
moderates alone. The masslios wen whither It would is
aim. degree lemma He meet admen/140 eillseis el the
Reform Act lie piled eat some of those deffeeleorhiskthe
bill, he mid, did sot remedy, bet iggrivreedl Thee& 411 the
eseluake from the house of ditingniebed ma map =tended
by the bill, which removed El mats ape be men rif • ,
liareentary ability, midis ft renamed seti est so lc.
Mr. LIDDELL proposed to =wider bees fir the bill MI,
resp.uded to • gale kid &we by Lord John Russell, that
the fouseidee should be esellerred wpm them most compe-
tent to exercise it faithfully, and he onetemlal that the
hal would enfranchise a large number of dependent persons,
and that ie some boroughs, it would throw the repremeta-
tion virtually into the hawk of paupers, or the hoer
wealthy, in•lepsedent, or edmatel classes. Is the=
the rola:non of the qualilention would week •
change in the whole character of the OWNSISWOM. MI

obliterate the &nineties between the county and the too u
eleent&
Mr. BRIGHT midi,* was prepared to discuss the mea-
sure with a desire to nada in the maid* of a useful bill,
anti to make every allowance for the dillcultiee of the go
itarnment and the home in connexion with this miestion.
TIM bill had fulfilled the pledge given by the government
sad Lord J. Rummell He was of opinion that reform in
parliament should go by steps ; the question of the fran-
=eing settled first, and afterwards that of the distri.
The M7l, while it dealt with the franchise, only
jest touched, and did not settle, the subject of the distribu-
tion of seats, which wee the very pith of parliamentary re.
farm. Was it satisfactory that there wended be a million of
voters to seven millions of men in the country? The pre-
sent bill, while it would do something to remove the ano-
Maly, did nothing to cause any of the alarm which had
been expensed. It was said that there was no cla-
mour for reform; but let lewd Derby and Mr. Disraeli
say that there should be nese, and there would soon be
clamour enough. By the Mg of more than ICO,OOO of the
working climes would be added to We franchise. Am to the
objection that the bill was not extensive, that was a more
rational one ; bat the 10014011 wee one which had gained
• large amount of acquieseenee on the ground of its ad-
mitting • number of pewee to the franchise, because he
wished- that twice as many should enjoy it. The bi l added
perhaps 30 or 40 per cent. of electors to the larger boroughs,
but sometl below 23 per cent to the constituencies of the
small borou s, thus showing how little could be done for
them by any extension of the franchise ; while the &spiv-
portion of members was still more striking. Where
the bill failed, even in that which the government were
pledged to accomplish, was to be found in the introduction
of ratepaying test into the county franchise ranging between
101. and 50/.- which did apply to compations above 50/. He
also object/cite the condition where in the case of a 10/.ocon-
pier having no house on the land be occupied there should
lie a tenement of 51, value on it to give him • vote ; but it
should be so arranged as that the county franchise should be
equivalent to the Si. home occupation in boroughs. He
also objected to the rate-payieg test in boroughs. He
wished that the names of all tenants whose
rates were paid by the landlord should be in-
serted in the rate.books, or else a large number
of persons would be disfranchised. Without such a pro-
vision the hill in • peat number of boroughs
would be a delusion. He should say nothing
about • question which he =derived was to be
discussed on the motion of the hoc. member for Bristol,
except this, that the ballot was • question which wee already
at the door, and one which they would have seriously to
consider in • very short time. He spoke sow of every
borough in which the constituency was to be made larger
Some of these boroughs were very much in the same posi-
tion as countise. except that the rich men had factories, and
the rich men in counties bad large estates. He could con-
ceive that in some of these borou3lis political feeling would
run very high, and that • great number of the persons whom
they were about to enfranchise would feel their liberty to
vote crippled continually
.by the fierce political contentions
of rich sod pried* men in these tows* He believed that
the house would find itself driven, and indeed they were
now almost at their win' end to find mesas to prevent co-
ertion and intimidation, and when they had passed this mea-
sure they would find there was still greater ocemion for the
ballot. Now if they accepted this bill as a redemption of
the pledge which the noble lord gave, and • redemption
of the pledge which the noble viscount at the heed of the
government doubtleas willingly assented when be took
oalce, they had a right to sell on the government to keep
faith with them—he meant with those members of that
home who really wanted some honest if it were not an ex-
tensive measure of reform, and those thousands and millions
not in that house who were anxious for the result which
that house might come to. If the home were for reform, if
enything was to be done, pass this reemere at least. If it
were rejected he asked the hon. and learned gentleman if
Le thought it would come to the house again in a milder
form? That was a question worth considering. The right
bon. gentleman the member for Bucks, as the leader of the
opposition in that house, and Lord Derby in the other
house, had had one trial. Did they wish that they should home
another? Wes it desirable that they should submit to what
would look like • humiliation to have it put an them to try
make an adjustment of this question? Was it not better
that they should leave it in the heads of the noble lord the
member for London, who bad no strong democratic feeling,
who looked with veneration to the throne and the order of
which he was so distingubilied • member ? Did not they
think they had better leave it in his hands? He had given
it many times more consideration than the peat bulls of
members opposite. If he (Mr. Bright) were one of them,
rather fearful of this change, and wishful to go with gentle
footsteps, and not to go far, he should say that the noble
lord, in this measure, had broughti forward • bill which, wo-
ndering the cireumetances of the country and the wishes
of the people, it was not only their duty, but their obvious
and prwmg interest honestly to accept.
Mr. KNI HTLBY oLiserved that already the counties had
not their fair share of representation, and by this bill
they proposed to nearly double the county constituency.He considered that this bill was cif a lees liberal character
then that of Lord Derby. It did not extend existing bo-
roughs, nor did it enfranchise so largely. He was surprised
to hear the noble Iced, the author of the first Befo.in
now come down to the house and bravely defend the system
of rotten boroughs, on the ground that certain able men,
who ought always to be in parliament, could not always rind
constituent, to elect them ; and he imagined that the noble
lord, in making that remark, cost • bhubco at the right hon.
baronet the member for Carlisle. (Hear, hear.)
Os the motion of Mr. Oramentbo the adjournment of the
debate was carried without • division.
Ind PALMEII.BI'ON said—Sir, I hope if the house is de-
termined to adjourn the debate, that it will be resumed to-
morrow (this) evming at an early hour. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DISRLELI—Sir, there is a subject
.connected with
the scheme of Parliamentary reform which is of very
mina interest, and perhaps it may be convenient to both
sides of the house to know whether the discussion upon that
question will come IA at the same time. I do not know
whether the hoe. member for Bristol in in his place, but if
be is, perhaps be will either rapport or postpone hie
motion.

Mr. H. BERKELEY—Sir, I beg to say that I consider
my bill the better of the twos awl I shall certainly proceed
with it. (Loud laughter.)

THE VOTE FOR THE CHINERE EXPEDITION.
Om the report of supply being brought up.
Oensnl PEEL that the sum estimated for the
be army must very y exceeded. No provision was
ma to the estimates or the proposed army of reserve,
or for the extraordinary expenees of the force in China. A
gram sum of at least 500 01U. in excess would be required.
Hr. & HERBERT still thought that be was
, right. Time alone would show. (Hear, hear.) As
to the China war, he might observe that they had in
round figures taken two millions and ..half for it, and he
was not disposed to prophecy epos the subject. dome
honourable gentlemen had prophesied that the expenses
would amount 6,000,0001. or 10,000,0001., .het it was dan-
serous to speculate, and he would not do it. He would
vain 11•11411111 bis hon. and plait friend that he bad taken
the best advice upon this vote, and he could alp assure him
that he had looked ihraogh the estimates with the greatest
possible core, and as the matter stood at present be bad
enough to puy than, and there would, he expected, be an
excess arising therefrom.
The report wee agreed to.
The house then went into committee upon the Customs
Acta, when, upon the motion of Mr. LAINU, resolutiom ,
were agreed to for assimilating the duties on ohicory and
spirits from the Channel Islands.

cuirroits ACTS (HOPS &c.).
The report was brought up and agreed to.
MUTINY BILL.
The house went into emmaittes upon this
Mr. S. HERBERT osed
a clams.—providing that
when a mihtialnan deserted from the militia, in onler to
enter the Nyder army, he should be tried by court-martial,
but that the Home Secretary should be empowered to grant
a pardon, and to ottierin lieu of the trial, otoppege of pay
equal to liks. 6d., together with other conditions.
Colonel DUNNE objected to the clause, on the ground
that it applied both to the embodied and disembodied
militia, and-provided that a man should receive a pardon fur
desertion and perjury.
After • few remarks by Colossi °WIN and Colons
lizanwr, •
The bill passed through committee, and the house re-
sumed.

MARINE MUTINY BIM
postpo
Me billd
paned through committee, the preamble being
wed.

REFRESHMENT HOUSES AND WINE LICENCES
BILL.
On the order of the day for the mond reading of this
Lill,
Mr. F.. JAMES said he understood the Chancellor of the
Exchequer had agreed to pottiness it till neat Monday week.
Mr. LAING said the Chatioellor of the Exchequer had
jest left the house, but be desired him to postpone the
sexed realise till Friday next.
The mound reading was accordingly postponed to the at.
ter day.

NEW WRIT.
Oa the motion of Colonel FRILIICV,
A sew writ wee ordered to imue for Clare county, in the
room of Colonel Lake White, whose election had beru de-
termined to be •oid.

OAS (METROPOLIS) BILL
Sir J. SHELLEY brought in • hill for better regulating
the supply of pm to the rnetropolii, which wee rout u tint
tine.

no bonne adjourned at twoopy minute. past one o'clock
till Ws day.

Baawicit-orov-Them Lacriox Co3ntrrrra.
The ammuittde met assiesday, Mr. F. Peel in the chair, wheu
ecnitimy Ina 'amassed. A leas dlecassiou teak place a.
to whither the masa of a rote amp. JUIrPh Henry Der-
ail/ _jad hoe. rigigr• areig.ofirdwza"d=ty'eiteterertaLthe
asee die tad d W. Orisy, also was objected to a.
cadhstag dilillad le be on the replater as the greased of
Livia noshed parochial Mad bdere the 31st Jatr, ltlbtl
Sewed wilaeras were daamed, both win* Uri vete and
la flow of Is validly; did at the eassetedea of the wpm-
meats the ecaudliee, widest amain to say declaim,
radd dip.
17:117111 Or Ninon, Soma Kamm's:3mi.—
Number if AIM". ter the week end* March 17 Mora
; teed, 1,K2. gime the elm.
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fag d iM airiumsfts 411114 (Map 13, 161" 1117,1116.

. tab intelligaux.
coma 07 19.
vUNKRUPTCY.—Mecca
(Haloes Mt. Commissioner Goulbore.)
It U esistP•-mite ALDRASHOIT cLUS.
The baakrupt, 2704.8har4. had kept the . Royal
Military Club, was the examination
meeting. He ewes to unsecured creditors 1,2621. ;to those
holding security 1875/. ; user in geed debts and property,
338/. ; property held as security, 1,6757.
Frogs the report of Mr. Pennell, the °facial assignee, it
appeared that the bankrupt was formerly in the East
India Company's service, from which he bad retired an a
pension. Towards the dose of 1858 he was induced to
embark Si the hotel business at Aldershott, which had
tossed est afortunat e .
ThelledinipS pared unopposed.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS COURT.—MARce 19.
(Before the Chief Commissioner.)

N NI JOHN ISITIN.—THE cutErft Or A GMERAL

This Insolvent, a Pole, who had been a "general mer-
chant" in ilarogneeionstrest, City, under the designation
of " Litten and C 0.," and in Parliament-street, Westminster
sa "Whitfield and C 0.," was opposed by Mr.
end Mr. Denney for three jewellers, named CulveZOiri7-
more, and Hall.
The complaint was that the insolvent was one of simmer-
, ong class of foreigners preying on the trading communLy.
He was a general merahant in Throgmortonstreet, and got
into debt, giving references which were of a questionable
character. From Mr. Culver he got gold eluting, and tried
to get more, but failed ; he had also put him to some
law expenses. With )11r. W' ore he incurred a debt
for jewellery, and afterwards went to Parliament-
street, where he remained for • few days and changed bin
name to " Whitfield and C 0.," aa he intended, lie said, to ex-
tend bin business to the Continent. There he gave an order
to Mr. Hall for some hold chains, which led to a criminal
charge, from which the insolvent was discharged at Clerken-
well Police Cowl, on the ground that the alleged offence
was committed out of the jurisdiction of the court. Ou
Ming discharged he was arrested at the suit of Mr. Culver,
sad had been since in prison.
The Chief Commisi&ner gave judgment for six months at
the suit of the creditors generally, eight months at the suit
of Mr. Culver, and nine months at the suit of Mr. Hall.
The judgments are concurrently from the 11th December.