The Express.
London, England, 1859-03-26 00:00:00

LONDON, SATURDAY IVRNING, MARCH 26, 1859.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDL—FazDAT, MARCH 26.
Thu LORD CHANCILLOI task his OM on the woohaelc
of hell-put done o'clock.
ROYAL COMMISSION.
The mei must was given b/22,oasenthdon to the following
lOM:—these l--thesendelid Fond (I, 1831. Ss. 9d.) 801 ; Coa-
solidatel Feed (11,000,000 e) Bill; Mutiny Bill; Marine
Mutiny BIN ; Build Plane Bill; Asainweary Days' Ob.
wean Bill; harms Bill; Canty Canna -Bill ; Edon
and 'Welton Fasksege SW ; Clifton Nemo Bib.
The Lord themindseers were—The Lon Chancellor, the
Marquis of esthh, end the Esrl of Hardwicke.
The Shegina MelGt Water Bill was read • second time.
THE lONIAN ISLANDS.
The Earl of ST. GERMANS, in punnet • question to
the solute lord at the head of the government , said that when
Earl Grey withdrew the motion of which he had given notice
for the production of the correspeedenos relating to the
ionise Islands, the noble earl (Derby) said the effect of pro-
ducing theseTrmeu would be to out etssiderable assure
upon tome who would not be is • position to give any
sewer. weeds had been understood by the friends of
Mr Joke Young to redir to Ida. Now he believed they did
net refute Mr John Yung, and it would be satisfactory to
the Maids of that gentlasen if the noble earl would state
that to be the sea, With regard to Sir J. Young, an old
friend sad former colleague din, be tau that although
He J. Young acquiesced he the &deco of her Majesty's
go t, yet en far as he was concerned, he wee desirous
fiat mry latter and every despatch relating to the affairs
ef the lonian blends should be publiaked, in order that pep
liameat and the public might have the opportunity of judg-
leg ed every act which had taken piece.
The Earl of DERBY was glad to be able to give a matte-
factory answer to the sable earl. He believed he bad not
seed the word "erne." What he bad stated was that the
=Woe of the papers without en entire discussion of the
then under- the cossideration of the government,
would be &instated to the public service. The statement
white he bed made had not the slightest reference to Bir
Jobs Yoga..
THE CLOCK TOWER.
Lard CAMPBELL called the attention of the noble lord
at the head of the government to the state of the Clock
Tower, and observed that he was to find the hands of
the four dials will statioazzLand to know when they
were likely to be pat Is
The Earl of DERBY expressed a hope that the clock
would be in working order in the wens of • short time. The
delay had area frees the great bell not being in • proper
width, sad he Wend the nutter rested with Mr. Denison.
—ZILIGIOUS EDUCATION OF DESERTED
CHILDREN.
The Marquis d OLANRICARDE presented a petition
Hue the itherdiaas of the Tuns Poor-law Union relating to
Lehi, religious education of deserted children to
hi
and in moving for a copy of the letter lately ad-
dressed by the Poor-law Commissioners of Ireland to the
Oink el the Team Union open that subject, asked whether
her lideoesty's government had given their attention to this
matter, and kid to contemplatka say amendment of the law
cancenting it f
The Earl of DONOUGHMORB said there wee no
statute law on the subject, end that by the common law,
when the religion of the threats of a deserted child arms
usknown, that child was brought up in the religion of the
state. The government had considered the subject, and •
clues would be introduced into • bill now en the table of the
other house for the amendment of the pow-law, which be
trued would practically remove the difEculthe which now
misted on the subject.
The Earl of LEITRIM did not think the Roman Catho-
lics had any right to complain of the present system, for if
they did not wish a child to be brought up in the Protestant
faith, all they had to do wee to take that child into their own
The Earl of BANDON, daring the whole of his expe-
rience u a guardian, had never found any difficulty in pro-
viding for the education of these childten. The mares
always adopted wee to make use of the grand jury law with
respect to all children under five years of age. The proper
course was to bring the children up is the faith of the
church of the United Kingdom, and ho deprecated anything
which would Mtn:duce religious strife among the
The petition was than ordered to lie on the table.
THE FINANCES OF INDIA.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH then rose on the motion
of which he had given notice, "That then be laid before
this house copies of ill the notification trued by the Go-
vernor-General of India is council from the commencement
of the year 1867 to the present time, relative to the tome ou
which the goventhent of India would receive money on
loan." He said the recent act:etude received from India were
Peke ry serious as regarded the financial eml arressmeeta of the
government is that country that he thought it right to
call their tordahips'attention to the subject.
Lord DERBY regretted that the Indian finances were
not so prosperous as could be wished, and confined the ex-
tremely hued and accurate statement of Lord Ellesborough.
In respect to the question of open loans, he bed great doubts
as to their propriety, for he thought nothing could be more
objortloaable than keeping up an open loan of indednite
amend at a specified rate of interest. He was sorry to in-
form the house that it would be necessary to ask pediment
this snake for power to raise • further sum for Indian pee-
._ He proceeded to explain the correspondence which
tak place between the Governor-General ant het Ma-
jesty's 'oversewed on the subject of thew tinnicial difficul-
ties, sad observed that a deficit of 11,600,0001., in rand
numbers, had to be provided for. Deducting • million that
would shortly be forwarded to India, there would remain
10,600,0001., which would be further reduced by another
million from • reserve fund at 12,000,0001. This would
leave 9,600,0001., which the Governor-General pro-
posed to 'edam Or 8,0000001. by Imposing • slight
tel on imports, stamps, and home-grown tobacco. These
eight millions were to be Feld off by • loan in India of
6,000,0001., and the Governor-General (coke I to this country
to forward 3,000,0001. in addition to what had been already
forwarded. Under these circumstances her hiejtety's go-
Tenement had come to the conclusion that it would be neces-
sary to ask for leave to Mee a further sum than the
7,000,0001. at Ha contemplated. What the exact sum
would be he could not yet say ; it would be et least
3,000,0001., and perhaps 6,000,0001. 'I his wee *lenitive of
prise mosey end cempensatioa. Looking to the effects of
railways in India, he ouncluded that the gloomy state of
Indian financed would soon assume • brighter hue. AS to
the report about the retention of salaries of Oases in Oude
he had received no information. The only information he
bad received was that the Indian government Wended to
nth n5l per nee lean. He deprecated any attache on the
government became they had not at once asked for the
whole of the sum since found to be teener/my, as it was nu-
poselble for the government then to tweets the present
tend.
After a few words from the Marquis of Clasekerds, Lord
Musteagle, end Lord Albemarle, Lord Ellenberough mode
• few remarks is reply and the motion was agreed to.
The Earl of LEITRIM and Lord Derby if it was its
Intention to recommend to her !Neely to confer any humor,
distinction, or dignity oa the Right Boa. Riehud Penns-
father, late Baru of the Exchequer in behead, foe his me-
nterioup enviers.
Lord DERBY. in reemenithg the high abilities and cha-
nce/ of Baron Penn/father, thought the question was not
one for the how* to entertain, and declined to answer it.
The report. of amendments on the Companies (1869) Bill,
and on the Medical Act (1858) Acuendtuect Bill were re-
ceived.
The Dade Act Amendment Bill passed the m& com-
mittee.
The home adjourned at 25 minute. to 8 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FAIDAY, MARCH 25.
The Sc Aria took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Taviatock Markets. Streets, and Improvement Bill,
sad the Wanisgton sad Stockpect Railway Bill, yeas read
• third time sad passed.
The vapor's uta the Cestril Railway Bill, the Mid
Wales Railway Bill sad the Red Sea sad ladia Telegraph
Company (No. 2) Bill were considered.

ROYAL COIIIIIBBION.
The tan it the Bleck Rod summoned the house to
attend in the Howe of Pere to whew. the royal west
given to a number of bill. (for which eteLonli repel).

NOTICES.

Tlir lIFFORM BILL.—MIO;;;FTIN to sort on Monday
whether the plan of uniformity of franchise la counties and
boroughs wu considered by the government to form one of
those essential principles on which the fate of the bill was to
depend; or whether it was (rely on of those details which,
although forming a part of the t Kenai scheme, was yet re-
garded as open to any sheath n in committee which the
house in its wisdom might think At to adopt.. (Loud chow'
and laughter.)
WANT or CONTIDENCE.- Mr. 0. STANLEY. is
the event of the second reeding of the Reform
1301 not being agreed to, to move the following resolution,
"That her Majesty's government having, in compliance
with the most gracious recommendation of her Majesty la
her speech from the throne at the opening of the present
melon, introduced a DM to reform the representation of the
people ; sod that bill having failed to give any *Midways to
tbr majority of this haws and of the couatry, they ere not
entitled to the coallesue of this home' (Cheer", anewered
by load counter-einem from the stelae:lel benches.)
SALUTING THE HOST.
Meier S. KNOX salted the Cokmial Seentery whether be
led say ottioctior to ley on the table of the house a copy of
=ms."B" that had been scat to the authori is at Malts ve-
le the gurieon oeden in force in that baton.; slim,
elidistrectioss the government proposed to Wu in regard

to edam beingpermaage celledprecooks apes to mats the Hod, or say roll-
car f
E. LYTTON believed there was an old garrison order,
by which it had been %mold to slate the Hat; but the
go-
vernment had given directions that the practice should be
put en end to, and that the circular of Lord Hal should be
strictly adhered to. The Host would, therefore, be selvage?
saluted by the military in Malta; sad he had hood no com-
plaint from any other place. With regard to the Bishop of
Malta, there was some difficulty; kg that prelate wen not
only a religious permit, bathe was, fa the eyes of the Mid-
tem, the representative of their grand sad chivalrous history.
Hence he bad always had peeedwp icamediarely ghee the
representative of royalty. The honours that ware paid lin
had daily reference to his consesion with do
Knights of Malta ; sad he (Bir E. Lytton) be-
hoved that it would be extremely dangerous, sad
would excite great disaffection if those honours were
discontinued, at all events during the present archbishop's
tenure of the office, more espeoLlly sa he had always shown
a warm attachment to the crown. At the same time the
7)tret
iti!Kltitnth:jobociilvoirri in quesantioityouillbethccon.:
Owe given instmctioas that they should suspended, when he
was bearing the Host, or was peeling in any estivate pro-
merlon. He (Sir E. Lytton would have no objection to
lay the orders the government had given upon the table of
the house. (Hear, hem.)

THE INDIAN MUTINY.
Sir 11. VERNEY 'eked the Chancellor of the Exchegner •
whether her Mejeaty had been advised to appoint a day of
general chankasiring to the Almighty for the restenstion ef
tranquillity iu ft?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it wen
is the opinion of the government desirable Hot there should
be some public recognition of the great missy which had
been vouchsafed to this country in the suppression of the
Indian revolt. (Beer, hear.) Her Majesty's pleasure had
not, however, yet been taken as to the particular form in
which that recognition should take place.
A PERSONAL EXPLANATION.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—Sir, I rice to move that
the house at its rising do adjourn till Monday next ; and I
do so for the purpose of correcting • statement which was
made by an hos. gentleman lest night, and which was
personal to myself. The honourable member for
Dover (Mr. Osborne), alluding to some remarks ad-
'

dressed by myself to my constituent*, used these
words "How does the hon. gentleman get out of his hus-
tings pledges at Belfast ? I remember well that at his elec-
tion he told his coostituests there were two quietism to be
considered, one of expediency and one of principle. This very
question of reform he described u one of expediency, and if
every men had a oonnience"—[" The word I mad," ob-
served Sir B. CAIRNS. ‘. wee crotchet.' I—'4 if every man
bed a conscience no government could go on. Then, turning
to the subject of the exclusion of the Jews, that, be said, was
• question of principle, which ought never to be abandoned,
But be has abandoned it." Now, sir (continued Sir H.
Cairns), if this concerned myself only, I should not have no-
tired it ; bet I hold that an imputation upon the honour of a
member of this house is indirectly an Imputation open the
honour of the house itself, for the honour of the house in the
&fervente of the honour of its members. (Loud cheers.)
What took place on the occasion to which the hon. gentle-
man refers was this. Addressing myself to my constituents
for the feat time after my accession to office, I told them with
regard to my frame course ,that I considered there was en
essential distinction between queetions of detail or expedi-
ency, end questions of principle. I gave illustrations of both
kinds, and as to the former I edd that I thought it was the
duty of any person who accepted an Ake under a govern-
ment to merge his opinions in those of that government; but
as to questions of principle, I said that I thought individual
opinions should not be surrendered. I gave many instances of
this, and amongst others I mentioned the admission of the
Jews into parliament. The hem gentlemen says that I have
abandoned my objection to that step. Now, I do not make
any complaint whatever of the bon. gentleman. I have no
doubt that be bad been informed what ha amid, and that
when he mode the statement be believed that it was true;
but it is nevertheless entirely without foundation. (Cheers.)
The question of the admission of Jews into parliament came
before this house in three separate forms but year—ln the
form of what was called the Jews Bill. of the Oaths Bill, and
of a question that Baron Rothschild, then a member of the
home, who bad not token hie seat, should be put upon the
breaking committee. Upon all those occasions divisions took
place. Upon some I *:peered my opinion ; upon all I
voted ; and I voted as I always bad done since I had had the
honour of • stat in this house. (Loud cheers.)
A BLUNDER.

Mr. FITZROY teipdles;;Viaet a question with re•
Bard to the proceedings of the home as the former evening.
It would be in their recollection that the hoe. gentleman the
member foe Ryo (Me. Mackinnon) had set down for the
second ~ling a bill called the kissers and Operatives BUI.
The hon. gentleman the member for West Surrey (Mr.
Drummond) imagining that this bill was one which he was
himself promoting oa the subject ;of oombisatices of work-
mw, moved that it be read a second time, which
wet accordingly done without opposition. (Loud laughter.)
Be understood that there was comiderable opposition in that
bill ,• red he welled to ask the Rome Seerreary whether he
would be prepared to move that the proceeding taken on the
previous day should be he'd null and void, or what course he
would purse., in order to put the bill beck to amens which
it wu he Defoe*.
Mr. DRUMMOND mid he waste ingly sorry is by
say mistake oa his part, he had sed the rake of the
house, or put the house to inconesakaos. (Rem, bear.)
The fact was that when the Masters sad Operatives Bill was
called en lest sight, aomebody near him said to him—" Is
not that your bill? " and he, supposing that it was, from the
similarity of the title, moved the second reading of the bill.
(Laughter.) The fact was that, so far Prom wishing the
bill to be read a reread time, ho intended to oppose it,
and bed gin n notice to move, on going into committee, that
the till should be postponed for six moat be. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. Secretary ESTCOURT said he believed the mistake
was general throughout the house. The goveroment had no
objection to Mr. Drummond's bill, but they did not event
to the other. It was allowed on both sick • that the bill bed
passel the amend reading by mistake. That being the use,
he
should, in accordance with what ho understood was the
precedent on sack occasion., give notice to discharge the
order pared yesterday ; tut, os the put of the goreaninest,
be should give every facility to Mr. Macliatoon to twins oa
his bill again in due coarse for a mama reading. (Rear.)

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PICTURES FOR THE NATIONAL GALLERY.
Mr. CONINGHAM inked whether, as the sittkoritlee
at the National Gallery were reported to hare meowed
their willingness to site a isrge sum for a picture by
Rafeelle, it would not to desirable that the government
should secure for the nation the famous picture
of "The Apollo and Metope," now in the pos-
erden of Morris More, Esq., the original draw-
ing for which was In the Academy at Venice?
The boo. gentlemen (who was eery impatiently 'Welled to)
complained of the treatment to which Mr. Moore hod been
subjected by the trostees of the Natlcral Gait,, awl rid
that he had been completely ruined sad brought to the verge
of starvation or suicide. The picture he referred to was a
gent of the port water, in the highest style f f Mellon art.
Mr. Moore had inetantly recognised the band ef the master,
and bad purebred it co his own account. By a regular co-
tridents the Meisel drawing was ems after discovered in
the Academy at Venice. The government would only be
ding an act of justice in purrheeiog the picture from a gen-
tlemen who had paid so dearly for his (independence In ex-
pring party flunks) ism. (Great laughter.) He could not
imagine why his 'remarks should be thus received—(renewed
laughter)—but ho hoped that we should soon here a reform
which would secure • parliament where a tolerant heating
would be gives to questions like these.
THE NATIONAL GALLERY.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (after
several other matters hod been disposed of) rote and said
that he found very great difficulty in dealing with the
inquiry of eke hos. gentleman (Mr. Conlogham). The in-
quiry was, whether, as the authoritiee at the National Gal-
lery are reported to have explored their willlognces to give
• large aunt fors picture by RaSsellc, it would not be der:a-
ble that the government should mum fur the nation the fa-
, roosts picture of " The Apollo and Memos," now to ths pos-
session of Morrie Moore, Esq. (Laughter.) He never herd
of the report, and he sever sew the 'genus, and wee therefore
culled onto deal st therm time wiih a hypothesis and a con-
tingency, two of the mod difficult things aeh which any
ors could deal. (Laughter) Though be felt, in the position
be occupied, naturelly alarmed when he read of large sums
of mosey given for famous *tom, he might at dear express
the opinion of the government, that it was desirable that the
trustees of the Beamed Gary, whir they purch pic-
tures, should purchase them of the highest class, and, if
they did not, that they Incurred • very gest responailitlity.
(t` Hoar, hear," and touch laughter.)
THE REFORM BILL.
On the motion for renaming the adjourned debate,
Mr. HORSMAN mid he hoped he might be snowed to
orroot en error into which the hon. aerobe for Birmingham
hod folios last night. The hon. member had stated that he
(Mr. Horomen) suggested that if the house should make
very impotent smeadments fon the bill in oommit'ce the go-
vernment would dishonour thentrfrot by seccepting them.
He said no such thing. What he said weir, that they ought to
exert their power to make ouch errodeassia, and then cast on
the governmeet the responsibility of tereCng them. They
would then have two rival bilis—the bill of the government
and the bill se amended by the hour, upon Will Burs
would be a door Wu to lipped to the country. (Howl