The Express.
London, England, 1860-06-13 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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DOCKYARD ARTISANS.
Vinson* DUNOANNON gave notice that oa Friday, the
Mid moult, be thould call attentioo to a report whith had
appeared i i the public koiro.ils to the effect that a large
timber of ehipecighte whn had both 1q in the royal
dockyards. and were diarroirr,Al, bad appsii'ed at ow of the
,thetropilitho office.. passport. to Frame, in order
to (Awaits employment se the dockyards of that country. in
the hope of am..cumg • higher rate of WWI.
DILAPIDATION OF GLEBE HOIIDI.
Vic:oast MINOAN NON again rose sad laid he wished
•tii ask the most rev. pnilate if he amid give him any in-
torthatke as to the positioe in which the Dilapidation of
Glebe Humes BiU sow snood, and whether it was going to
le weeded with.
The Archbishop of CANTERBURY saki the subject was
=dm' the optic* of oosvocattuu ; but be feared there was
'lido hope of thy measure on the .ituretiou being pawed
omits the mend manioc.

LIGHT WEIGHT RACING.
Lard REDD:WALE, in moving the mooed reading the
lAtibt Wet Racing Bill, tint alluded to the oppueitioa
which had hen raised against it by a portion of the Jockey
(auk sad thee proceeded to explain tie object which the
lii had in view. It waa, he said, unfortunately notorious
shot the embark of placing low weights on bones
had been carried to • ridiculous extent in the promet dey,
furnished no fair tams of what the horses could do ; he,
therefore, proposed to raise the weight sanctioned by
llithhon practice to • minimum of ix stone, and thereby to
strike • blow at a great deal of gambling that toga plan by
amps of light-weight handicap..
• The Duke of BEAUFORT moved that the bill be reol a
Mead time that day three months. This subject had been
leweght before the Jockey Club on two different occasions.
Oa the tint occseion they were unanimous, end on the
sestord there wa. only one dissentient to the opinion that
ym I•4l..lativ• interference was required, Thu u•,.,1e earl
moral the second reading of the bill no three grounds.
lint. that it would improve the breed of hones ; second.
that it would do away with rurality ; and thirdly, that
M would do sway with the misuse of boys. With respect
te the brat objection, he thought that • beery weight was
Isr more likely to prove injurion to hones than • lightone.
He could aware !Ite noble !coil that he was as anzioto to pat
own rascality as any one on the turf. but he could not see
how that Tina to be i• fleeted by • man ehangeinthe weights,
liseaese there might be pot as muck rurality if the weights
were 9 stone instead el 6. It was true that Mr. J. Scott
tied him a few days ago that he was in favour of • bill
which would make tie minimum weight 6 stone, but when
he asked Mr. Boat what he should do if he had a valuable
horse on which 11 stone were put, he replied, " Oh, I
should wrate'.l him at once." (Laughter.) With regard to
the third objection, there was no doubt that attempts were
mode to corrupt the boys, but be thought that all such at-
tempt. could be better dealt with by the Jockey Clubthan
ia any other way. It wee the almost unanimous decision of
the jockey Club that the bill would do no good.
The Earl of WINCHILSE.t was understood to
the bill, and to protest against the charges brought by
Iledeadde agsaist the supporters of the turf. He was ent-
wined that the breed of hones was improved by the use of
light weight.. The bill fixed a minimum, but not •
maximum weight. If the bill were to pass, the same boys
would ride as were sow employed, merely carrying extra
dead weigbß (laughter.) At present two horse, would
Mch B.lWOf. or 9.000 i. : was that • sign of the depreciation
of the breed:. (Hear, hear.) When all the world was
looking to the sportamen of England to give them leoons
ia the art, this bill would be the matelot rebuff they had
ever received since the days of Charles L He objecied to
the bill interfenng with the arrangements of private
gentlemeu, and the sooner their lordships rejected it the
better.

The Maniuis of CLAN RICARDE thanked the noble lord
for bringing this bill forward, and sincerely hoped that it
wank' p•Ls, on grounds of humanity. He viewed with dis-
trust any restnctions on the rights of labour, but in many
rams they were necessary. The children employed a* light
weight* were sub'ect to continual accidents, merely to mi-
nister to the pleaiure of cer-ain individuals. (Hear, hear.)
The great studs of the country did not belong to those who
ran hold handicap races : our Lest horses were those that
had pleuty of boss and sinew. de objected to homes being
ran so young; they ought to be reserved till they were
stronger. Tile late Lord Jersey hail sever run hie horses
all they were old stash to ran for the Derby. It would
be a good thing to put as end to two-yearold race*. He
hoped that the bill would psea, on the grounds of humanity. 1
A fearful accident had occurred to a child of fire stone
weight :it the late Hampton races,
Ear: GRANVILLE mid this was no question of party;
the arcimente of the different speakers bed been rather in
analtry with the different kinds of nide, which they advo-
cated.' He thought that the mouse* which had been
introdueed to the house involved detail. which were
scarcely a fit subject fur the ducuision of their lordships in
parliament. One of the arguments which had been
adduced in its favour was that it would tend to
Improve the breed of racehorses. But be believed
that the Jockey Club were opposed to the principle
of the bill. He understood the Jockey Club had no
legal power or right of legislation on this subject. (Hear.)
They were the landlords of part of Newmarket Heath, and
there, therefore, they were enabled to enforce certain regu-
lations. At other races they hail no power whatever, and
it was only by cousent that their regulations were adopted.
But did they consist of so exclusive a class--were they a
body ..f men no hound up in their particular amusements
that they were unable to form an unbiassed judgment on
this yitstiou! He had ethruined the list of the Jockey
Chili, and found that it consisted of 34 members. Some of
shun sole .members of agricultural societies; 110f110 were
can airy oil isomaary officers ; ten of theia were masters
of fotlonaols ; twenty of them were privy coon.
rellora--(a laugh) : sod of these privy councillors, two had
bison postmasters-general., two viceroys of Ireland, seven
had been cabinet ministers, and two of them hal been
prime nunistem twice in their reepective lives. (laughter.)
The menden who CfAlipased this body were backed up in
Skil Ile.s by a large body of the ionises of race-bores,
said he tboaght their opinions on this question were entitled
to great ...tight There were, however, two grounds upon
who, , he thought it would nut be desirable for their lord-
alias to take legislative action on this question. First, as
to ii. argument of humanity towards boys employed in
racing. he thought not much stress could be laid upon that.
It aa. perfectly impoemble to c. their case with
that of great moms of the n employed in
mums and Melones, in whala buys of tender years
were formerly engaged for many hours a day.
Thar lordships might as well legislate against boys
=lout binlinesting-d(s lash)—or provide that no boy
Wallowed to go into the river tall he bad learned to
swim. (A laugh.) Their lordships might be amused, but
be coal.' assure them that Lippe ow UC.AIIIOI2 when be
Zimaprla Gninville) wished to bathe in the neer Danube. he
that he was obliged to ethil it bir•self in a email
pool .(great lasighterl—ta the presence of two gentlemen
in sadism, beam be was allowed to bathe in the
truer. Their I. 'althorn so ~..:,I not be prepared Pi
=t say such regulations as that. Then it hail been
tliat gambling and other great malpractices were coo•
meted with the parent system. Bat del their dinlships
molly suppose that this hit would prevent gambling! The
like was perfectly futile. U young coma could not lie pre-
vented Inns acquiring habits of gambling by an act of par-
lament, it rarely woe far better nut to attempt to pass a
nesecire ou the ground of its being directed against these
=is frauds sad oefarious procure*. As to the breed of
he totally disbelieved in the alleged diecrioration in
the bee .1 of bone. is this country. (Hear, hear.) As the
whir duke had alluded to the subject, perhaps the house
would not Dunk it isabecom in h®(Earl Granville) to
allude to a canversation who.
..h he ha I had that day
with a large dealer in bones and jobenader. It was
clearly the interest of a man in his position to make out
that there was great difficulty in getting good homer. But
asoonliag to the statesseu** of this dealer, although there
wet an cousual dermal for a certain class of sli.eiry h. irss
loth high s'epying alion, vet he said, if he were asked his
apnoea whether he could'lnd less horses than formerly of
greet deetigth and good breed for ordinary purposes. be
certainly thought, aotwithatmultng the drain from fore*
count, a :h...t they were more aboodant than ever. It was
true t'•.‘, the foreman of this dealer, upon being asked a
solid 7 .10,tfou, said that the complaiste about the want of
homes weie =ironed ; but then, upon further questioning.
be added that he never knew a time when the same remark
was ....: made. (A laugh.) One hundred and twenty years
.1„... 0, • ...roe fears seemed to have prevailed about the
fright .' ,I deterioratioa of bones. But that rumour, when
eta' '-'l.- I. Penal oat to be without fouadetice, and he
thoi.ght that the present would be found to be equally un-
sabstaatial. For them moons he was sot incline' to sup-
port ti,. measure of the noble lord. He thought it &sir.
able tltd the Jockey nub should examine this subject
ratb,r than theAortiships. He thought that there was too
great a .le.ire to legislate 11110 a every trivial question.
(Hag 7, h....r. I There was an old sisals, "De mintmis non
cam::. s." which be th.eight
DERBY said the* ear ntt tbe freely translated,
'' IN. not legislate for !caber. " (Hear.)
of The Earl taialy was some-
ir=
itlisar in this subject which rendered it very &so
to those usually discussed by their dirdthips. Most
of their lordships must have reeetvel o -4; ,v..urialeat
from some of the speeches whi.h had hero dA.vensii, and
many of their lorililuie most have derived instruction also.
Bat he hoped their lordships would not consider it ungra-
Mons of bum if he added, after that amount of amusement
red instruction which they had received, that upon a sub-
ject of this native their lordships were hardly as a body
oonmetent to judge, even although they had such a large
attenidaace tram the right rev. beech. Mils allusion to
the large somber of spirited peers who were presentwanreceivedwith much laughter.] Ome of the objects which
the noble lord stated that he had in view was to prevent
deterioration in the breed of hones of highest weaght and
speed. Upon this point he (the Earl of Derby) tbaught
he could snow that his noble friend's bill dot not tend to
iseduce the effects he desired ; ant entree he male out
mime very string ease of necessity, be agreed with the noble
lard opposite (Graaville) that it wait *err uedmirelle that
their kidships should legislate on the 'object. No daa:,t
if a real grievance or abase had to be put 'brio the:, would
be as advautage is that and the other h.ilie 01 parliament
interfering eves in matters of this ilescriptiam. The noble
lead had ijoken of the peat 41110=10f Issiblina. sore
imperially pralneed by haedreapping. He so ter creed
with be sale friend that be very much repotted the great

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