The Express.
London, England, 1859-08-06 00:00:00

LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 6, 1859.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.'

HOUSE OF LORDS.—FitioAT, Avaurr S.
The LOW) CKANCILLOII leek Me eget at Ire o'clock,
CHURCH RATER.
The Duke of MARLBOROUGH laid cm Ito table the te-
rm al the "sleet comodttes oa church Wee' embracing the
encloses taken, with a rescauseadation that the committee
should be appointed neat scrim
TIN Bishop of LONDON presented petitions against the
abohtlea el chorea rats..

THE TERMS OF PEACE.
The Marquis of NOEMANBY gave notice of hie Intention
to put a qutstion on Monday with reference to the terms of
peace sate to have been proposed by the government before
the treaty of Vilharem= He had no wish to provoke a di.
meeka on foreign seats, as every one mut see from what
wee pawing that snob =moisten wins now undesirable. EL
only object was that their lordships shonld have the same
information from the government ea we, oommunkated by
foreign governments to the organs of information abroad.
Ha mould simply sink what correspondence had passed bi-
tween the Foreign Secretary and our ministers in Paris mad
Bohn before the treaty of Valafrance was goad.
The Victoria Station and Pimlico Railway NW sad alio
other Film= bills ware reed • third time and
NATIONAL IDOCATION IN IftrAallb._

Nom dthe gettemmeat Is peeger any change in this system,
web a dew le this teller Male who objected to avail them-
selves etas At the me-ealled ;national system wen
ad be the Wesel et Iteessa °idolize and die-
m/ma ilk was a mat amodolholory state of Whigs, and
• endled ebenensespens we adamaly, It was admitted
*di the efadmohal laud la Wailing &ad it. great object,
that el meld INA aim heed in stimulating,.
'shwa bosovoloada, her the cast Alagoas of Individuals did
eat mount to more thea 4 per emit. of the coat. It had
waroover toliod to cominanketleg• knowledge of Wm.
It ass unsatisfactory to the clergy, both protestant
and Roman catholic. The protestant clergy bad objected to
it from the outset, and the catholic clergy only tolerated it
for want of something better. He contended that in schools
where secular interaction was entirely 'operated from
tellgiona instruction the mind was not educated. When this
spiels was establiebed, the church was not so strong as
sow ' • eutiseqinnely she was obliged to submit to it ; but the
lime had sow come when this was no longer asonsary. Fees
the report of the delesimucal comentasionen in 1851, twisty
iotre after the introduction of thin system, only 33 per amt.
of the children of all nuke were receiving some sort nf
education. Great as that ignorance watt it would ho
still greater but for the efforts of those bodies which
received no assisted, from the date. The church
athiels alone educated 2,000 children. In Antrim,
where the church ached. chiefly predominated, 441
per cent. of the populetion could read and write; in
Mayo the proportion wen only 16 per cent. In the report
of the National COMlliftiOlitill fee 1867 they returned the
amber of their pupils at 778,473—an iu,reditle statement—
fur it wee more than one-sixth of the population of Ireland ;
bat on looking at the avenge ationdasm he [sand that la
100 schools it only amounted to 1,699. He believed that the
commidonera had done all in their power to cony out the
spins. They had schools of vuios, kinds., and excellent
training whoa' for teed:tem ; they had some good school-
books, but history appeared to be excluded from all the
schools—probably it was felt that that was a delicate subject.
They had coutniodiane school-houses, and a well-selected
staff of officers. The systems ought to be awl-
inflated to the English one. There we" no mat
son why, even with Roman catholic., education
Mould nut receive the fullest development. They ought to
he allowed to make their schools as effective as poeaible, and
roteemata should be allowed to do the mine. *knee their
lordships committee sat on this subject there had been a
coastant change of governments, aid consequently nothing
had been done. He believed that the late governumet, had
they continued la office, would have effected an alteration in
the system. There was a strong feeling that something
tenet be done, mil be had heard that • commit...in was to be
appointed. This be deprecated, as It would enly postpone •
necessary reform. He wished to know whether tee govern-
ment meant to propose any change on their own authority.
Earl GRAN VILLE acknowledged the courteous term, in
which the noble earl bed "pilau of him, and regretted that
the question should have been put to him In the absence of
Lora Derby, who wee the author of the national system, and
from whom it would haveheestlntereating to hear whether his
views had Income modified. He was sorry that any person
should have considered It necessary on conecientbas ironed.,
to abstain from all attempts to make the Irish national schools
se perfect as pomible, bemuse they were not allowci to meth
the bible to Roman catholic children in a way of which
Rosa& catholic, did not approve. He (Lord Granville) •
had not Wessel( the slightest recollection, either
at the private school or at the large public school.
in which ho had been a pupil, of ever having
teectvetl biblical instruction at the hours devoted to read-
ing, writing, withmetio, history, or geography. He waster
from asserting that the vet national system was perfect; he
di t not know anything that was. He should, for instance,
basitate to say that the domicil 'yearn pursued in the higher
schools was not attended with great advantages; but he was
not the leas °impelled to admit 'het it had also its defect..
lie certainly thought that the exceptive Oan which prevailed
in England would not answer In Iftland. He did not allow
that the Irish national system had failed; on the contrary,
he c intended that it had been at the greatest portable utility
to the people of that country. It would oartainly have con-
ferred upon them still greater hearths if the two extreme
parties would only have combined to asset in =Whig ileum
efficient. With regard to the questions now put to his, be
quite speed with the noble earl In thinking that they bad
already bad enough inquiry. He did not deem It desirable
tent a new commiadon should be issued ; nor was he aware
that such a atop was in contemplation. lie had no doubt
that Ns noble friend the Lord Lieutenant would modally
examine into the whole subject with a view to see whether
improvements could not be introduced; but ha (Lord Gran-
ville) was unable to glee any distinct pledge on the subjt et.
The Fail of DONOUGIi MORE said the idea of the Na-
time' system ea at first proposed was an excellent one; only
It was Impossible to carry it out. All parties had
been invited to glee up their prejudice., and even
their principles, In order that they might meet on
the common ground of a school in which an education might

be given which should be neutral Se to religiose. That was
the theory ; but unless the founders of schools bad made
fond unental alterations in it, they would not have met with
even the amount of encore which they had obtained. The
fleet departare front the plea was in allowing ministers to be-
come patrons of school. ; sod the second seas the foundation
of non-rested schools. To each se extent bad thews altera-
tions been carried, that out of 6,000 wheels connected with
the Nationel Board no fewer then 9,600 were managed by
Roman cathllic ;siesta, who Iced power to exclude from
three school. sty religious instruction of which they might
disapprove. The whole system was an imposture—it wee not
th-t which it profereed to be. (Hear, hear.) The noble
earl most admit that its contiouance was merely a matter of
time—it mart sooner or later be given up. (Hear, hear.)
Viaoount DUNOANNON observed that the National
arum as it at present existed gave estbfaction to no party.
The Earl of LEITRIM warmly defended the system.
Even where the teachers were indifferent or Inefficient, the
eehoole were the means of doing much good.
The orders of the day were then diepead of, sad their
lordships adjourned at ten miaow to eaves o'cloek.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—F&w*y, Atrourr 6.
(Continued from yesterday's &yews.)

ROYAL NAVAL VOLUNTEERS RESERVE BILL.

Sir P. BARING raid as a friend of peace he believed that
to the mast position of this country nothing would more
conduce to pesos than the having a good Laval rearm He
believed that the propell of the government was the best
that could be made for this object, and that the experiment
wield succeed. Bir Freesia entered sognewhat fully into the
questions connected with manning the may.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE observed that, as the measure
wee prop: eed u an experiment, if it did not fully answer, aa
opportunity would be offered for entering into the subj. et
again. With regard to the causes which operated to make
the e•vy unpopular with acetate, if the Admiralty carried
into effect the recoranwedatiose of the commission, many
be removed. He

of thuds causes would, in his opinion,
threw out many hints for the improvement of the replies
Bone in the navy.
Mr. CARDWELL, owing to the lateners of the hour.
cealsed himself chiefly to a deface* of the continuous service
= tit
oreply to remarks by Sir F. Baring) and to some
von the coastguard.
The Imes tbas went into committee upon the bill, but the
lopes atter arrested the dircumion of the claws.
Several hills wars read s third time and passed.
In • committee of ways anei mesas a rowel:iliac, moved by
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, for imposing an additioosl
rebate duty upon relates of the value of 4000,0001. and up-
words, sae agreed to,
The house resealed at six o'clock.

TRINITY COLLEGE, DUBLIN.
Mr. MAGUIRE asked the Elebeitxr Chasm! for Ireland
Übe we. aware out of what funds the Board of Trinity Col-
-le^ Dubin), founded two scholarships for the present year,
1869 and, if out of the college or animosity funds, whether
be we of opinion that the board had the legal tight to ex-
elude Roman catholic* from competing; and whether, in
fact, ft had come to his knowledge that a Roman catholic
stodont of Trinity Collage, who had ham prsviounly
tingwahed by the highest honour*, was actually excluded
from competing, although be presented himself for e1•111h1l-
thlh, and although it had been known to the authorities f if a
seiniaderable time before that he was preparing himself by
stnip for she examination, and that his exclurlon was elated
to be solely on the ground of his hubs a Rococo catholic.
Mr. Serpent DEASY had part Ay no knowledge of the
aircummarees to which the quamirm alined. but he bad
been furnished with a emiressant of Dr. Todd, one of the
senior (snows, tba esketascia of which he would state to the
hosts. In LON the board determined to term It new
scheirmalips d 101111. a yes, auk treble lee two per.

open to all denominations, the salaries of which were to be
paid out of few which formerly went to the senior tallow., it
wart at the same time determined to suppress one of the non-
tutor fellowships, but sa it appeared several gentlemen
were then engaged preparlig themenves as candi-
dates foe the fellowship, it was thought joat
to give them some compensation; and two exhi-
bitions of 1001. a year each wen founded, to be competed
bur by those who would have been candidates for the sup-
pressed fellowship. That would not have been open to
Roman catholic,. The hosed thought the same role
ought to be applied to the exhibitions sotetituted foe ft.
The gentleman referred to wee of a different opinion, sad
prepared himself for the examination. That fact came to the
knowledge of the board only a few days before the examina-
tion. and he was informed he could not Wallowed to compete.
De (Sedating Deasy) would not venture to say whether the
band had a bagel right to prevent him. The proper mode of
deriding that question would be by as appeal to the visitors.