The Express.
London, England, 1858-04-29 00:00:00

(Stamped id. AdditionaL) [TWOPENCE.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.,—WzDNinem, Arm 28.

(Concluded bus yesterday's lyres)
AGRICULTURAL STATISTIC'S SILL,
Sr 0. LBWIS rid kid, having' been visa to in
the case of the dads reepealke tosetldng Skit he bed
said et • labile sesettag, be t"on"ed Met the base would
`lye Ides a few distins of its slastion. The "rod ses-
amity of the Skittle dwhich the geverasest wee passed
=atrt day see obtained isely Is furthers,» of
dojo* They »we got *the odloolks of varies
tem awl the expos brined • mules Leckest in the cost ef
Selevoser. It wee se with sager, so with tea, so with malt,
mhos misietked Iskessilom war abseintely setesery to the
tolleation al th• daty. But there Ines odes Smoke of
setlenal statistic* width wire diabolist!) attested. St wee
011hlf kis= for teetionoe, that a esieral doses of the
be bad, and ft was ask is diessial patois,
Litiostr bake bow 10,00 W. to MASK With »aped to
the bill, he enesitkred the objectless seas to Ron the
red begeadkisiel aid spereads were rowdy
pnandies oat of doors, end that
:16.1.11fraikarrbeseelkormize Sr
seed to it w
sew as that
steek. seises
olliakid Ismalloeds must kiss
Ipreparty if they were to
seestvell=tlkstiewVto 4111•1111 MR to vary Oak rah
bon sob delibles es Sees. TIMMINS so far so thowyolate
west be sbauld sot Imitate ha sessthig to the pereed
tnesonre, if be Mwttht that es sarakkaineallen Gould
he deldnd lb mean. llet wee Itztopeo)
rrt
of
kw Issalles spa Sick id .
1111 ardlery asent' es ttleit lie=11C:11 thef-Theil Sae
SOS' seed be of allelest peastied idessesse le oda-
=is for Me arse wide& woad befsestrid ate eolleetleg
Ho doubt they would abed soda end valuble
forsake to any future histories of eirloaltunt, bate to
prattled seeders of Wylie sod teas he Attila that
thews einthtles would be ebeolutely sites. (Hoer, base.)
He did not net upon his own views slam H. found that
In Mr. Tooke's valuable work on the " History of Prime"
the same view was put forward. (Hear, hear.)
siWI
regard to the machinery for working out the bill, he
like to hear fromg
m
the governess what were the probable
coats of providin the
wetadvary to coast tip gra-
dation. In Irelandhe and Sesileal men wee about
7,0001., but no doubt In England • Seeger ins weld be re-'
gaited. The hon. gentle:nos bad slated to the corn re.
tarns am an existing statistical pine el kiensetles Sikh the
government furetl to the noddy. Now, be mad eay—
though In saying se he hared be Send hod the ha mos
bee to think lain a blotted opposed elf edikilee—Mist he
doubted the polls of keeping up the dopedneent of ears Tee
tarp, in the Board of Trade. TVs sees daft returns
IVY instituted in the day' of peSselks,whineko sale of
duty ores SS by the Floe of corm. Theo they were not
only metal but reqte. At pres% the sly us of this
stars vas kr the purposes t
et the kW stemataties
It bed bees suggested le he kid gessionts MS
Mat
tion of these retains Stall be tranderrea to the
She ormunutetir • dediertmest, end he sold venture to re-
consueud that the - be..

suggesii-th to vigit gth -than= Oppo-
- Theis thin arms the quokka, whether this bill could
be celled a permissive or a compulsory enactment. He would
especiany eall the athentkm of the home to the 6th
motion, the
e,rft of which y soma sufficiently
strong to m the bffi compulaory. Now be would remind
the bon. gentleman who bad charge of the bill that, although
he might net tweet any penalties to render pintas liable
who did not make retinue, yet if the bill were to pass &eag-
heerly that returns should be meth, those who
° timake them would be guilty of a mthismisnour.
(Hear, bear.) This, however, was rather a quid= to be
cauldered in committee, than upon the present stage of the
meseure. (Hear.) The main quartion after all wee this, would
the bill Bit became law confer practical advantages milking
counterbalance the outlay it would require, and upon this
point be must say that the conclusion be came to wee sot In
of the measure. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DRUMMOND agreed with Sir G. Lewis thet them
otatistke would not make, and never could make, the smallest
dithrenos, or be of the 'hightail utility in a practical point of
view. )Ir. Caird, be said, had not drawn • distinction be-
tween briars and "peculators in corn. The farmer should
not be incentregul to sell or refuse to sell. Let him bring
his corn to market as he wanted, and not be turned into a
TURNER
Mr. TURNBR supported the bill. It was important, he
said, to have light and information upon all subjects oon-
mooted with trade.

Kr. iltfilfiCK objected to the rorMoiple and the
reedtkemy of the bill, which, he believed, could procure no
information' that would be really
Mr. LINDSAY, with nleroadlo chit % UMW
Mr. Drummond, asked what was a speculator ? He was one
who lila* the game of chance. The Rimer, when kept in
the dirk, became the prey of this gamester, sad it was the
duty of the home to enlighten him. He sawed strongly in
support of the bill.
Mr. K. SEYM ER as strenuously opposed It. Pressed by
domestic and foreign competition, the British farmer, he
raid, grew as much corn as be could, and he wee not to be
required to furnish information not extorted from other
bedsit. The object of the bill was to obtain returns of the
screw ; but while that was certain, the yield was uncer-
tain. Valuable inismationprosp mightft always be got from pri-
vate en to the ts of
Mr. Blgeobemeerved that it had noat7res shown that say
berm could be done by the bill, in support of which he rug-
gested how the want of knowing the quantity of barley grown
affected his own large purchases of that grain.
Mr. CARD WELL considered that the British farmer was
the person most interested to obtaining these stridence. If a
large purchaser of barley, like Mr. Bass, told them that it
wee interesting to him to obtain such knowledge, how much
ewe so must it be to the farmer ! He admitted that a tom•
palmy measure would entirely fail, sham it was not Nieto-
Eto our other institutions, and not congenial to the h
ot el-
the country ; and, looking at the machinery of the
lbe reeommended Mr. Caird to withdraw it.
Mr. HENLEY said the dint great difficulty of this sub-
ject had been created ten years ago by the course taken by
the then government, the effect of which wee to excite a
feeling throughout the agricultural districts hostile to these
statistics; and this feeling had been increased by a more
recent attempt to make their collection compulsory. Ile
then proceeded to conceder the Ware and quality of the
information which the provisions of the bill were adapted
to acquire, the labour end cod of acquiring it,
and (as suggested by Sir G. Lewis) whether that informa-
tion would be worth the e of which, be said, he could
form no correct estimate. He hoped Mr. Curd would take
the advice of Mr. Cardwell end withdrew the bill, the ma-
chinery of which he was convinced would not work.
Mr. MILES was convinced that the agriculturists through-
out England had not the slightest objection to returns of the
acreage, so long se there was no interference with produce
and stock. Takla( the principle of the bill from its pream-
ble be should vote for it, but he suggested that it should be
left to
effitteaqintent to work out the detainee( the reassure.
Mr. Sir J. Shelley, and Mr. Ball spoke in oppo-
dtion to the

Mr. LAIRD Said he wee quite unaware, till It wee pointed
oat to him, that the dith clause bad a oompulsory effect. If
the bill got into committee it would be his business to amend
that clause so as to render it no longer objectionable. He
could not wept the advice of Mr. Cardwell to withdraw the
bill, bat Awed rather adopt that of Mr. Miles, and prcasonts
the bill to a division.
_ _ _

the hom member for Dormishire al-
luded to some relsonthretemdia, between Yr. Hill Maxwell

and thr Treasury and the Board of Audit,in.d he stated alt
ame expressions had bees used intimating that he vas a
public debtor or defaulter. All who knew that gentleman
would know that any explanation waa pum otly unnekeenery,
but Inasmuch as the observations need night go to the pub-
lic, he wished to say that no such charge was ever made
against Mr. Maxwell, either before the Treasury or the Board
of Audit. _ .

—Mr. HER SEMLER said the whole tenon: of his °beer-
vaticate was to show that Mr. Hall Maxwell had been most
unjustly treated.
Alter a law observations from Lord ELCHO In vindication
of the conduct of Mr. Hall Maxwell,
Thit bows
For the= magi 136
Ageism' 241-106
JOINT STOCK COMPANIES BILL.

Oa the order the day far tb ossadT;a7KTi this bill.
Mr. HEADLAM sad he could not apsot the house to go
into a discussion on it at that time of the day (half-pat eve).
He proposed to take the mooted reading now on the distinct
understanding that the house did not thereby agree to the
principle of the bill, and the& the Maurice on it should take
piece on the question that It so into committee, whit* he
to take on the 13th of May.
rßfr 1. DIIKE moved that the hones do now adjourn.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER resided
the bon. and learned member that he bad a nodes Per *a-
mmo+ that after the 19th of May orders alsald ham pre-
cedence of mottoes. He hoped the bon. and Lerma nessaber
would ham the opportunity, which be cenalnly dryad, of
*bens on the b& on the day be maned.
Mr. HEADLAM aid if there was any objeetios to read-
ing the till a seamed time now. of comes that paten end is it.
Sir J. DUKE remarked that Otis wee one of See mg
important questions ever submitted to the Rona of Com-
mon', and therefore be could not allow hto be dieemsted
within belt an hour of the thee for the egjearsinent.
Mr. WALPOLE switiebed that ft we sot wpm& to
take the dbosseba sow.
The Uedaa ger eijotimment wee than withem, bet the
ME was not mad a emend Was.
ROADS, Ike. (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Lai ILCHO sail be wished to have thie bill mined to
anima asmndttee, and ter that purpose he papas& that it
11110•11 be sow reed • mooed doe pro tonal.
AM* seas dlsoisedan the avast /sr the mooed reed* was
=be wee.
CAL PROFESSION AND CORPORATIONS
BILL.

Os Osgood= of Yr. T.-51:121COMI311, Imo woo ens

to in a ME to dada* the rights of the members of the
of peolbselso, end nt wise* the public from the abuses
nrand texpentions.
EITURNB ORDERED.
On the motion at Kr. T. Duncon ea, returns were ordered
to to made by the clerks dllO district boarda of works in the
ostrapells, nectar the Meerepalie Load Managemsat Act, of
the amber et dime of as& board, with their Wary per
mans or par week, whichever ft may be.
lITADI
On the melba at Mr. Ramat it wee resolved that a
select committee &odd be appointed to inquire into the
origin of the dohs ot tha government of Hanover to levy the
deeds Toll ; to oceeklar in what degree they are detrimental
to the commerce of the United Kingdom, and the effect of
diving notice to determ pmty entiver which thia coun-
try ims sasented to thet of such tolls for a limited
period.

NEW WRIT.
Ow the wake of Sir W. Joni.' rrs, a new writ wee or-
deed for the dram of a ammeter for the minty d lAitrimt
is the man of Mr. Montgomery, who has ample& the Mace
of
etswerd of the manor et R
The Wan ed,63wrned et to to 6 o'cisek