The Express.
London, England, 1859-07-29 00:00:00

Meads. The noble lord bad referred to this in such

senbiguous term•, that heCcould not help peeving the govern-
ment not to begrudge the borne • little more information.
No ace could foe • moment imagine that the statement of

the Emperor of Austria war • more invention on the pert of
that great sovereign. It would be satisfactory if the noble
lord had soured them that no project of • eactlement
ofsaoh • nature had been put forward through the agency
of the English government, or laid before that of Fowls.
Alter the &elusion of the Emperor of Atvitria, one great
neutral power, Prairie, coos forward, and publicly declared

that she knew of no such *theme. He did not
c 41. et from the noble lord any intimation that
the English goveroment were equally ignorant.
Us weaned t. know whether her Majesty'. government were
not in usersion of ouch a whams. He wanted to know
whether It we. sot through the agency of her Msjeaty's
gournasen that the scheme wet brought before the Emperor
of Austria, It hod reached him—lt blight be patently tut-
isunded, it would be a source of pleasure to find it so—that
a scheme of the settlement of hostilities was brought before
the Emperor of Angela through the indunios of the agency
0.460.. of her Ma.esty's government. That was a communication
which t not to be concealed from the homes, and treated
in the am manner in which it had bees treated by
the noble lord. It might be said that this plan for the settle-
mut of Italy wu presented to the Emperor of Austria with-
out any opinion of cur government. dot if that were said
In thought the house would agree with him that the
very fact of her Majesty's government being the organ of
that communication by which a proposition of this kind wu
tribefore Austria, was a species of sanction. (Hear.)
ould be satiefictory to the house if the ministry would
at some time assure them tea there bed been no comment-
estioa mods through our minister at Vienna in favour of this
scheme. Let the bone* murder, if whet he had naiad were
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the fee, what had been the pitliticed result. It was this.
The Emperor of Asserts had obtained easier terms
tram his enemy than he had from those he called
his natural allies. Her Majesty's government
had again ow:emitted the blunder which they made in INS.
At that time a proposition was made by the Austrian govern-
ment similar to that which had now been accepted by it. At
that time the prop tuition was made to quell the disturbances
of Italy by the nfinquishmeut of Lombardy. Her Majesty's
government wee thee, he might say, identical with the pre-
sent, became the affairs of this nation were earned on by
two Welters, the Prime Minister and the Secretory of State
foe Fodor' Affairs, and the only differeare between the
eablast now aid the cabinet then wee, that then the noble
teed wee the First Minister of the Crowe, and the First '
Bisbee( the Crown was then the Secretary of State. (Laugh-
ter.) The house should then obeerve how completely the former
blunder wee now reproduced. Then it wee raid that Venice
mart he given up es well aa Lombardy. Then as now, much
sealer tow were obtained. What wain. premat poeition
The affair we fettled without our mediation, without the
time we aired being conviderod. What would our position
have been Earliest the terms of mediation were offered to tin,
imaged at (Meg them our senotion, and transmitting them
and remeammading them through our minister at Vienna, we
bad, tree from ell prejudice an f passion (which nef stunately
appeared to have great influence in the Englioh government
on this subject) pointed out that they ought to be eofiesed,
they were too herd—if they are amended we will use our tn-
Su• nce with Austria to obtain their ecceptencw ; end If by
this couree her Majesty's government bad been the
means of obtaining place, then we should have been in the
position of a powertul enellaur, and Anstria would then not
have looked upon on as having deserted her. Now,
all these were feints to which her Majeety's government
ought to have given more information to the bootee. (Hear,
hew.) He would, however, now turn to the perming busi-
ness of the moment. No doubt they would have direct in-
formation on the points to which he had alluded sooner or
later, and he would, therefore, new ooneidw the questions
arising out of the peens of Villefranoe, especially the ques-
tion whether England ought to aunt in carrying out
a treaty to which she had been so party, and in
reapeot of which her mediation had not been asked.
He did not mean to my that there were not
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grave oiroumatescies which tnijiht arias when this country
might find it necessary to interfere in the warm Mtn the
termination of the dispute to which she waa no party. The
noble lord said that this treaty of Villafrence mum be con.
sidered under two heads. In the next place he says there
was a coneriereble Wimp of territory, but sot such a change
as effected the &limos of power, and the refme se for as that
coniederation is concerned, England ought not to be • party to
it. He (Mr. Disraeli) thought it would be allowed at
rag& tale of conduct In foreign matters, that It
wee per, to the luterrat of this country to attend
engem unless what was called the balance of
power In Europe wee affected—he meant by the disturbance
of the balance of power—which was • phrase treated with
derision by these who did not know what it neant—he
meant any SCC4I4OI:I of territory by any European state to
inch en extant es would reader it weeds to the rest of Na-
me. He admitted that in the present ease there was no-
Wag which touched the Wince of power, for it was the
acquisition of a province only by Serdinia. The instances
which were given by the noble lord at the dose of hie
speech proved this. The settlement of the affairs
of (Treece, though the territwy was small, involved
many eon 3iderarious aff-cting the balance of power; and the
same wee the case, but ti a still greater degree, perhaps, in
the ere of Belgium. All these o•oeg, in frier, proved the
eenarness of the rule that K. bad ventured to propound.
Penang neat to the second point upon which the noble lord
apasldered this treaty—this was what (the noble lord called
tie Mare of Itsly. Now the future of Italy was a &abject
et eery great importance. The noble lord said that be had
mowed met subject with • weer. He bail bed so
often opportunities of speakieg in that house on
this subject. and be had oa those occasion so
oonstantly bad the misfortune to diff,r from the noble lord,
that he would not then stet' to vindicate the opinions which
be held. But be would tell the noble lord that be labonrid
under this misfortune—he had • belief that there existed
throughout Italy a whit party—Cloud laughter)—and until
be got that idea out of hie head he would never be able to
take • clear and statesmanlike view of the subject. t" Heir.
beer," and laughter.) And these views were whet the nobal
lord called poetry. (Load laughter.) Whenenr he began gam-
ig Petrel& it was well known what he we. coming to. He
(11r. Dieneli) bad told the noble toed some 3 ems ago Maids,
course which he wee recommending was one which would
lied to orethasion in Italy; that it would call tato miaow*
tie smut societies of that country, and end In the inter-
lines,* of • foreign despot. (Hear, bear.) The noble lid.
is Menage to this p irt of the owe, referral chart Lord
Clarendon bad done at the Congests of Pane. how-
ever. was the ;maiden of Lord Clarendon at that time ? The
fiesettlean.:l:taf affairsico throughout.id.stkm allairotpsay wco.lb if.oore, thb.eoczn,--
looked. He (Mr. Menotti) did not object to the e urge then
takes. What was to be reoommendtd before a war took place.
In order to prevent that war, and whet woo V) be rearm:m(l.d
after were terivery different thiogs. (Neer, hear.) A warm
wee a very dangerous thing at all times, but it might gave
Europe from war, which woo a greater danger. War was a
thing abbnrrent to nsudern feelieg, it was a thing by •R
means to be avoided, and let we did not mewls to go to war
when ressesry. Boa comma, though a troweling not to
be rewiamended in the abstract, was yet oweesary
wben it might avert a war. But the noble lord, ate? going
through a great comp ergaraents the tendency of which was
to prune that if he was asked to go to the congress he weld
not go—lanedter)--sremed in favour °Unending acongrem.
If the noble , interested for the future of Italy, wen at
once to attend • waren to retire those interers, If be
attended • conferee°, on the Weis of the treaty of Villae
*woe, would he mot be bound by the enadhless already
coatained in that arty ? (Hess, bear.) That was the rein
point reonnimeaded by the Preach gewirrmat—lt was to
establish is lady • eadidentlen of the Zara States, sad
by the truer al Vandrass the Ter was to be the beset of
the gerederstrei. How scald tie goverresat et this MlS-
try meat that Sect in • congress, *stied as it wee already by
the treaty? Lad so It would ha with the Ober rift Jostled
by this twenty. The noble lord Ind essalisral three arab '
which might mire at tree ontsiniees. PIM, Or pidgliss
ccolobrails. Thies, le aid, weld sok wok well at SU