The Express.
London, England, 1859-04-13 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 13, 1859.

tatitta,n to do with sweat is parhatuent, or with asytha
sowniNtwi with • ant is parliamsot (Heart, bear )
ist otos waa founded et lely on coosidtilitioca of s pawed
wow, into toll'c't Ido not kel bt liberly to 'atm It is

medialant ter me ti say, that attrr a roarer:Wen whiek I bid
sit, Wes, Admiral !Lartia revoked the int,ntica whkit La

Tha;;110W----sasver;ii ti;qwasilois
the tight hon. gentleman put to me with regard les
the imporMat matters to which he roferrod ;
ham' dna so with entire sinceriiy, sad without
any mom; sad haying given this reply I to add that
I lam I fool that I have dons lambing of which have TOMS 10 be
sahomei, or which I need have any hesitation in aeir2
bar* or 01110111 SM I. the most public manstor. (Loud

arterial cheers
Admiral BUNCOMBE said, laving been alluded to by
the right hoe. broom, be Tithed to lay • few womb. It
wee perfectly woe that when the present screamer acceded
t oar, the right bon lemma dad hire the Marv, if sit
Meow he might call it, to invite him to join the &said of
Admiralty. He said, If an homer he might all it,"
becalm whether Intentionally or not, the our was made fa
verb a way that he woe quite preluded from accepting ie.
(Laugliter.) If it hap bees made In each • msoi. r
the' he toted have accepted It consistently w.th
what wen dee to kinualf, he would have dome so. What were
the fur of the ore? In 1852, when he was at the Board
of Admiralty fur • short tiro, be commuted to occupy what
wee meeally termed la that blur the poet of civilise lord.
Between that time tad the early part of loot year, when the
goverment acceded to office, he free to a higher rank la the
service. sad be Wt therefore that be could so Mere aocept •
rbordinate place at the board, or rive under a junior
tame. ar, her.
Mr. B. OSBORNE mid, coerideriag that the First Lied
of the Admiralty had shows such landed. assiduity is en-
deavour lag to deprive Wm of Ids at f r Dom r—(laughter)
—he hoped he should he allowed to make a few deetratioss.
He MIA MY that it a:parr from the exteatios which the
hoses bed jut her, that, to adopt language of the
m
l arra who bad jet tb• tight hoe. throat
tie
uses seal thee in adling with ago-
dinesiberuatere. Now ration resolved heat fete
ewe guts: deed, then wee tae private coestheslor
ee-
n~e~~t with
dathe eller rod.de ire Carole Core* by the
iidmOhe llerth; and WOW" wee the pars eas-
e haw beg the lessed etAdvetralty was I s ear
man gemsellerid meth as thee. With refund to re
pleas art& area% hth bet • alibi empeentesse
rib Oasis CC be
rs, be het ecqueletesee
web hie to know met whaler that prat
undertook he wee yawed to do. The
right btu. geetleinth barber terra bent that be cried
Captain Carnegie three'alety agile emati," we., be
thought, bound to modem hie eatedes, mad le some the
three ma.. which, in bat *pinks, wore o fairly eligible."
(Opposition cheers ) Now ha put It to the First Lod of the
Admiralty whetter, when Captain Carnegie cothented to
take hie place at the board, the eat which wen thought
fairly eligible, and which was dangled before his eyes, wan
sot that borough of Midhunt with regard to which there
had bees mime discussion la that home t (Hear, best.)
Moreover, be would ask the right bon. gentleman
whet roman he had to suppose that Dover was • revers-
mint borough ? (Laughter.) Perhaps he could biased an-
swer that reales. The right bum galena bed lately
rza.. appointment of imperial pears at Derr to the
dr eloctimionieg neat is that rem Having
forced Copan to retire, he had given We poet to
• earthman sera Truman ; and her It wee tor this
mare eat he thought a mat at Dover re " lady eli-
gible."
Sin J. PAILINOTON lathed to correct the hon. par- ▪
Itl
lermer might be hie authority, It was not true that
he head Cerra Miriam to Trim He was promoted (se
vlaffir IntrAllf E mid Captain Winders never appthd
for pmemotion, nee did he with it ; on the contrary, am he was
be remseetralid against the change. He would leave
Carer(to to settle bit with the right has.
beet be met eser rat that wee the la dose that
Slhegifig4liesed ben • First Lied mesh revitalise of poll
Jobblag at the Admirally—amer, bear)—med atter lbw*
revelations ,t wen imporeiblo that ay taweralementeithil
allow the Admiralty to rade as it yam (Oppealler=
Os the en of • war—theright hoe. gestkrondeddy
to that abject--at a time when re peemment bed jest
proclaimed the seceseity of reinehriflng in sorry sot
etrengthealag tie Channel Issi—as list Lord et re
Admiralty was so Oneida of the able et
is Europe that he was wady le Abram willtat
services of Admiral Dundee, or of ray saw member of lie
board who did not chime to go sad area • eat is that
house. Whatever might be the feeling therm the
would not permit the Admiralty to rem& senelitn=
was at moment. (Che-m) Now, the tight bee. gentleres
hod aPsetd sot to know what was the taming of the
telegrams which had come from Drozp_xt with regard to the
promisee era by Sir Henry Leek.. He had affected not to
know what vas mast by • monopoly of cadre, which wee
the lees rarprlsiser setter his confrere that be wanted a dry
nurse, la
aa to
to of a naval lord in that hour, to Instruct
him with PI metiers. (" Ob, oh," ham
the malt brachia.) New, it so happened that Sir H.
Leeks had m sonde-low at Drooped, who was a animator
for the dockyard, and he bad oat be the voters that if they
would procure his return for Demerit he would use his
harmer to lettuce the First Lord of the Admiralty to have
the meal esamisatire which an held at Portsmouth, held
etclusimly at Devoupoet. That wee the eaplasatios of
what we said with reefed to the cadets. As to the quibble
about the term " pargaisites," however that here might be
deceived by It, there was, be was sunk so mar In Dena
pmt who did sot well understand what was meat by
(Cheers.) It seemed that Sir Henry Leeks led tat Dean-
port sad gone to Dover. (How, bear.) Re thought the
hon. sod gallant officer would not thank the err hen.
gentlemen for hatred given hies that roving immenedis.
He must add that in his opinion the country had same di*
to oiroplain that Sir H. Leeks, having premoody bee as the
retiredlist, bad bees placed on the active list et TO of
▪ Socha procrediog wee, be believed, Far
What ow ire wee Sir ii. Leeks rewarded Is ear wirer,
Wee is k.r what he had done at Devonport, or he whet be
was expected to do at Dover ': (Laughter.) He to irer
that whatever might have bora the iateatles of the tied
bee. gentleman be tad attemred to impair' diehormatab'e
and es to Captain Omura (" No, so," from the maintsterial
bemire) The tight ben. gestiessita had outdone so direetly
be deed it belnathen —bated fault. Leaving that hon. and
=eater is weft Ids daemon with the right hon. gr-
im wield sow deelme that be believed share was
onneely • meta in that home or out of it ere would put
any essetheee to the Board of Admirsby as It woo new
senstismasi, and if the gather admiral the member fee
Sentliwark would make a modem to impair ire the reed-
tries of that board, he (Mr. B. 'Nicer), ire bed
been opposei to such motions bekee—(dashes iaslbir
from the miniaterial tesehes)—re, he wee arra to
biome be believed that the first lords of dm A
net dirty their hands wink jobbery; be weeldig=ese-
den hit support.
The CHANCELLOR et re EXCHEQUIR—I bre the
house will not allow pererial detail& whir arm Ware
motor rousing, to divert r. attention hem • meet :.patent
principle is our parliamsbery ceralbers. Ought the
solx4 of Admiralty to be prehesionedy reprinted in this
home or not ? (Hear, ham) For ry ea part, I think it
is doe to the Moose erg le re blame etrellmeet—and
I am mire it is doe to the emeetive reitmemith him whet-
ever party it ray boo bee formed—rat re Deer of
Admiralty it
be perear why tiremar thee&
GS It hes bees fa • ling isles at per 1 ma esy hem
observed's. robe re Walesa el re lama ressimeek
that, notwithetentirg ad re siade eel shay et
my rtght hoe &deed (Mr I. Irshieglir), whir
garden.rtlaism to the eirshientlen imi armbands
of the eery bra then maw dberraids, great Ireirveriate
bee ahem Mega fen west el repairs. de reel membee et
the Domed et Atharaty he Or beam Mae me bedew re
' may prang eminent be this geshaler . alarm, eme-
steed with the naval mei" eel who we purge or se-
sent et week embers membire of lid elerei• the
✓eel tesseerse et the grieramet as sat ea to ;bah id-
Ohba; and a • Dead fie Admielly whir Is espessistel
:teraria menet rep lath der err,
es
see mentrysl In the polite EMI. Per mere Ohms
terbe menthe we hem surreni he want el a prtheniera
nreamdalve of the Admiralty, art I de net ark any ate
aebeerpeied to find diet dm COOMMOM ham Igen
re sorsa opponunity of reseed whet they felt le be
a grferree thirstlvos, end believed to be very lajaleas
fri =lre brew& Long before the ass illation of per-
wee adapted. her Majesty's goemnmest had this
pailp wadethei conearatkm, sad WPM etheathend to
lad Sire ippeterity et sepplyleg the deleldrey wrier
whir riff bite se mar seid. thy arid km hied
the net Le et re Athreetty bee armor Ids levet
tha wird yardd
berms him del wed Os= Came% yid
eat nether to wring. ardere rem ie be mem of
baremr, I pratrag road I lbw In rid a-
ree—therm beer)—eed bider that ere ear
siellimente came to be impost it yid be
Mod thee them Is no rest dramas lam= the
I as bird to my, rang the been. of Craft Oarairs's
sequaletenem to it by an sierra cathaster is my pewee,
it ft thee eseassey, embeteatiere the seetrat of
my right boo. triad. It se beppesa that rtele=
Dot la my way c nested wish my official pada.
Omagh, sought a erarnatios with me. Rs dwaseremed
his rhea» gratiMetios in retort:Cog to pines iOhb rep Old
me be lied soorptrd office with the dried seaeglatillag
detect padre& oa the first opportonity sad he re Yr
saisol tout be to
forward MTh the greater Mewed •111
meta the Boas of Common,, end to essillare the
Bred ed *trashy In these particular arise in which it
ereiet id. (arm) I lied much conversed= with
Oma en that
r, ocimatos, and every stehmeset be
= ms emmebeely seratered ths stat.thest mede4ez
art bee, triendos reamert which I do not ark
trerr guide. I bees thought it
itiegustirs of the these le the very iniportent
math that It red ea be reeved from them the iwir
avasersts et the Ma. gentlemaa who still ownrew
Daum (Lend Iseght.e.) Ide arrest the
may pws se to thrills se this diecirsoo, I tomiZtea awn
net tube bared by pwty helms to eaareda the riesipla
that It is set tardiest he the pubic rules that the Admi
ralty sheer be represented proferainally here. I de not
know writhe witch would do more to diminish the infirm*
et the Neese of Comers la metal affairs. I hardly thew
what wart ben • rater tardemey te establish en Meatier
eatiniatialla thee • pieramiest bard et naval obese.. I
au gals are Skit the slither et that adinistereder
best .enacted by those rages which or issellorma
hem roma end that orient there cheeps the Dead of
Arheiraty weeld axe become In re peones meek bolded the
arillathethernthltrestthebeniewilthitermiketlisthet

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alright ban. blend las only dose his duty In wide ivuuriag to
tthe adernierliks at the Admiralty on Its proper bade.
oad arena) 1 will lona bat lightly 011 the grbrances
how. amber Is, Dew (Yoe. B. Osborne). He wanted
to May what greeted we lave for considering Dow a
geversemat
rased test:lt. We ham os idea that Dover la •
ea ; websow that &Lard of the Ad
tis art them would We ea hoispendent esaZiat
wry that time mar be mama sympathy teems' •
post smd • •afaired navel sees, rw• bass lbws
lava bees sri bit heiress Dover sat] • gentlimaa
wbo woe manedisd with the Atizatolty. (Llighter and
chew.) Dome may be, mei I breve is, complelely Ode-
penthat ; bat Door oboe dared a Secretary is the Admi-
relty-(choen) -sad, kelkei, it tenet 'operable that it
might elects naval Lard tithe lideairal7. (Hest) I as add
that I leaves prremal seqatiat•see with So. If. Leak*. I love
always heard that he was • very distinguished sea, sad I
mast rep that, karma sees him, he did sot give MO 1110 ides
that he ass of the age el 70. Ow thing mast be edmiaad,
that Is dams* great eelytty, for Is mom to have beta at
Draw sad Deemed ea the roe day. (Losettar sad
.12111,1_1 behave that is en doing Sir H. Larks is GeV
Ms earns as that of • more distinguished redo.
stemo 7.lsr isfonsed-parluips not oorrtctly but certainly
with es math eenettams as has characterised may state-
sman lipiiibb-dwit the bat. gestleassa the priest distin-
guished member he DOW did at the hat roam first op-
peor for Devasport. (Lasater sad chests.)
Mr. B. OSBORNB-I was raid to appear, but refused.

(laughter.) -
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The hon.
member mast at lead atm* that there was some foundation
for my statement, which is perhaps mom thee ma be mid
for mazy other statements made In the course of the present
debate. (Cheers.) I will set attempt to my what may be
the fate of the mods( mutest. I will only say that it Sir
H. Leaks should, In a future perilement, represent Dover, 1
bops that the bon. gentlemen will find a met elaswitese.
(Laughter sad cheese.)
Some foie( remarks on the subject having been offend by
filr O. Orgy, fin C. Napier, Lord C. Hamilton, Sir E. Perry,
end other members, the subject dropped, and the modes for
the sexed reading of the Approsrletios Bill wee speed M.

EXCHEQUEI RILLS BILL.
This Mims rood • wood Raw
LIEN AND FREIGHT BILL.
The boom, wont toot committee to weir to pro • to-
osidoe urn obloh this b.ll tolglit to tram&

la eon-line*,
Lord LOVAINB explaned that the low w at
pram* in an usestialsetory state aa to the rights of Air
owases. Ths object of the hill we, to pass a gems' not
which should give all the ppoower st pretest essieresd by
local acts, without supsraedina the latter. It was not fe-
ttucini to proceed further than plinth's the bill during the
pawed session.
The reeolution was speed to, and the honor rums&

ENDOWED SCHOOLS (No. 2) DILL.
On the order for the weed men( of this bill,
Mr. DILLWYN presestel a hop number of petitions In
favour dais bill, sad premeds' to say that he did not Waited
to press It deems the Resent stooks. He merely wished to
say with rehouses to the nosy attacks which bad been mode
en the bill Is the papers sad at public meetings, to the effect
that it was en sigreisios en the church ol Emland, that, in
point of fact, it was the church which had, fn the first is.
stance, amused the aggregate* towards the &Wasters. The
action of the latter was merely defensive, sad as it was un-
derstood that the aspeedve action of the church wan to be
peseta& is, it wee sessmary that some legislative measure
should be interposed to vest It.
The order was then d schergea, end the bill withdrawn.

measure dote not derarm the support and apprmal of par-
-(heor Issar)and I was very glad to dad •
hw days slice, when the qualifies errs brought t
to • vote in one of the largest houses on reoord, there wee
such as immense mejority against it. (Hear.) It is true
my boo. friend the member for Bristol sod me or two others
mew wsrm supporters withdrew, but to oremlethelance
Met, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the First Lead of the
Admiralty, and the noble lord the member for KW* Lynn,
who, Meows*, would have voted against it—(beer, beer)—
WOO also skew If this message is to be carried, sad if
elesters are to be strewed from any possible iMIXOIIIIIiIIIIO6
lea eimmemssose el their votes, on what possible pi elpis,
cm what male etiology, will you refuse to extend the arm
protection to members of this home? (Hear.)_ We stand
to the country M a similar position. (Hem.) We are just
as table to sustain personal inconvenisoce. A member,
for inatence, who has spent a large sum of
money on his mous would solar far greater pecuniary
lam than a tradesman In a county town. Every principle
which should lend us to apply meet voting to elections
applies equally to netzubers of this house. (Heir, hear.)
That would be a great midair*. Instead of this measure
being a measure of progrew, it is one rather of rotrogremion.
The proceediege of this house used to a great extent to be
aenot ; of late years they have been made more and more
polder—fine the deletes were made public, and then the
dirisiees. I recollect the time when them waa no published
list of the division; it was Mr. Horner who suggested
that it wee of meat importance the country should
know them. Now, indeed.Jbe advocates of popular rights
comeand ask ne to reestablish the principle of secrecy. They
pay, indeed, that now if a trodeereau votes against the wishes
of his chief customers, or if a tenant votes against his land-
lord, the tradesman tested% custom,and the tenant loses his
farm. But what would be the onsequenos if this bill
pawed? No man would employ a tradesman whose political
opinions sere not in accordance with his own; and no man
would take a tenant who was not of the same way of think-
ing as himself. The honourable member for Bristol referred
to the cam of a tenant who was turned ont, but whose land•
lord advertised to recommend him to others; but the only way
be could get in was by having another tenant turned our.
The only result of this bill would be to eubetitute for one
mode of coercion another still more odious. In a country
town no gentleman would employ a tradesman unless he
knew him, and in the same way when a tenant went to take
a farm, thl landlord would ask him whether he was a whig
or a tory. Weehould hare a most allow inquisition between
tradesmen and their crammer., between landlorda and their
tenants. To enforce this measure would require a tribunal
totally inconsistent with the fundamental principles of the
Briffah constitution. The hon. member for Westminster has
laid ha will consent to bringing in the bill that be may judge
of its details and Its machinery ; my objeotions are not to its
details, but to its principle, and I shall certaisly beck up
the ment in their determination to oppose it (Cheers.)
r. MILLS believed the proposal was a meet plausible
political Imposture. (Hear.)
Mr. CONINGHAM could Lot allow the observation of
the noble lord with regard to the late division to pass unno-
ticed. He and other supporters of the ballot had relred from
the division because the question immediately before the
hams was the etiolation of the noble lard the member for the
City, and they did not wish to encumber it with the ballot.
He believed the helot suffered from being brought forward
se os isolated question ; it ought to be part of a great mai-
ms dream. It appeared the government intended to give
a sheet negative to toe question. The right hen. gent'emsn
the Chesseller of the Exchequer held very different views,
when ko Ms address to the electors of Merylebone he ex.
prima bilemnriotion that It wee necessary to complete the
meelentaty of the c'eueltution by two m aeures, trienolal
perlimesde siod vote by ballot. How could the right boo.
was rrecendle those sentiments with the negative vote
trontto give?
Mr. BERKELEY, in reply, mid he felt very much edified
br thmuiszeelue of their two leaders on that tide of the house.
.) For Ems time hack they had looked ill vain
Le say orb unanimity, but now their leaders sat on a box,
like the two Kings of &enticed, smelling at the same rose—
(lauebter)—abbough they disagreed cm a most vital and
Impatient point with those who conatiteted their party.
(Hear, hem.) It was impossible to answer the audacious
and aseiest speech of the noble lord. Move audacious and
flagrant rubbish he had never heard—(laughter)—nor de.
livered in a more jaunty manner. (Laughter.) The noble lord
bad attributed things to him he never said, about fines and
imprimoment, and electors' wives. What he did ley applied
to the noble lord as well al anybody else; he did not suppose
the noble lord told everything he did to his wile. (A laugh.)
The noble lord the member for the City bad, as usual, got
hold of the idea of a nest. If the electoral franchise were •
trust they knew the condition that the elector should mer-
cies it is and unfettered, awarding to his conscience
(Hear, bear.) The noble lord bad forgotten that this mea-
sure had pared the House of Commons in 1710, but was re-
jected in the Lords. He despaired of seeing hen. esollemes
on that ride satins sad holding together es a party =alums
was some unanimity amongst their loaders. (Hear.) The noble
lord had referred to his absence from the recent division.
The noble lord forgot that 140 members bed aleiained
from voting. He would not Mee* to answer the arable
lord, who had gone of in hie mid Agit asijaentytemeet,
and baring gained the chews el hes. onabete on the cam
side of the house who were opposed be the bill cat dors
perfect hero in his own estimation. (Lighter.)
The house then divided :
For the motion
Against it
The announcement wee bailed with lend aeon from the

opposition aids of the howls
MANNING OF THE NAVY.
Sir C. NAPIER said, in the preetst dna of the house
(there wens sot more than about twisty nralters
who the gellant admiral rose) he Avail set, se he =
tended to do, bang the report of the Maxim of the Navy
Commission before the hones, but he would recommend the
First Load of the Admiralty to do all be could to make known
to gallon whet wore his intentions Wades to the manning of
the navy.
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