The Express.
London, England, 1860-02-11 00:00:00

(Stamped id. Additional.) [TWOPENCE.

• in all probability, be able to Mend the church ant Beadily.
(Oast ienghtsr.) The gooier= be (Mr. Mader) bad to pat
wee, wham the= boa. gladsome bed any olleseion to
stare be had law to prevent the
semmtemaand.rifilelimmalsr sense at Gt. 11, end wbor
thelemer_hes el lik, would be
Mtn she aileW if the beam was to timlarsteed
am Ma MGm set arm the pollee with the power of sum-
latedissue in the ease =ivy disturber's, ea Metr-
e( dhow and air darts( pehlio worship, sell that
are not aralberiesd and required, when re-
nrby Me proper anther Mes, to apprehend person wil-
disturbing er interreptig pattic worship f
Mr. G. OLIVE said that in answer to the question of the
noble lewd be bad to my that the paragraph in peed= bed
not mowed Wattention of his right boa. Mead and at the
Chief Commieslostar of Polls; and Sir R. Mayne bed ts
eensepance addressed a letter to the Rev. Mr. Lea, Malin
that he had observed in the Them of the Bth tutees • latter
bearing hie signature, in which It wee stated that cm the ott-
ession in question be was kicked by a person who merged to
get away; that he was called by • name which was not
usually printed, and struck a violent blow es the obeekwblist
those who stood by encouraged his sioadint ; sad requesting
to know at what period d the eureka these
mmHg happened • and at whet pre el the church
Mr.
Mr. Lee wee etZgliag. To that Who no many
bad beim received, bat whoa It wee, no doubt the
reply would resolve 'eery comeideraths. In reply to his
boa. friend the member be the Tower flambee, be
to same him that notbiag bad eseurred as far as bieltd.
Ore) blew to maim say loss of at all peobable. No
Aosta these bed beea • moot Wessel hg
ate of pebble
worship. Into the muss of them dietarbences be bad no
wish to enter; but be *emit no nether mamations would
be astomeary than those Visit bed beam takes. (Criss et
" Olat If he.. gentlemna wenn beer bha to the sad Jr
woW pressed testate whet mensueleneastnaly bed beemisina.
teitalsrentivTpchit Oldef CiametS=
War 41 with sepuriat
the sketch. se daring Ncreember
They Teperesh theept Mare inn
theocoaskaa leastrap:
date boa psalm ties their het or Petag e mipeases
in • dimmpastfal rarer, time was meshing which they
oosl I ley bad of ea • breech of the peon It was then
thought desirable to attempt a different plan, and to lave
oases `pills deans only la the church. 'lbis had bees
dens ever sine* to fret deaday in January; end ace"
deem repotted that they bad been usable to Is apse any
pereoas who had committed any such outrage as tepid
subject them to serest. The inapeater's repot t with refer-
ence to last Beadily stated that be was called Into the church
alter the Litany swim, sad Informed that the Reversed
&pa King had been Insulted. Mr. King, on Wag
'AA said be had not. He heard of ate wreak being loco-
witted on the Rev. F. Lee. In addition to the men in plsia
clothes within the church there bed always beta a large
number outside, and the elturchwarden had been brimmed
that on the slightest wake that body would be reedy to
enter the church, not to super say mallestatleas of dis-
approbation, for they were not entitled to do that, bat to ap-
prehend wane who might aanialt • broach of tbe doubt
aware •to the bee ques Ms bee. gentleman was no doubt
aware that polio.eeealallr meld not arrest meow for a
common assault, maims they saw the astault committed, or
anises It were a vatted one. Therefore it was that
the police naturally to to ehurchwarden to give them
informatioa, in order that they might themselves see if any
assault were committed. Nothing of this kind had been
dam. The obruchwerden had Intimated to the police that
be wee desirous that they should be at the door ready to
sestet him ,• and they were so. The setts of the law was well
knows. Abet 'whop the section of the act of Mary, whist'
has beta frequently published, the hon. gentleman said there
was se doubt that the police or those in plain clothes would,
if they maw say assault committed, apprehend the parties and
take Urea Were • 'magistrate. Other proceedings pee so
proud Yen avert, bat merely forthe issue of • entanesse

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Kr. HIRLEY ilitl that no definite answer bad boa
rim lo his debit* question.

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Lord J. JIANNIIBB said whet stops the gorillas's§
proposed to taut with rafersoce to nest Sunday.

lir. CLIVE said be bed largely answered that gumbos.
The mos strong body of police which had been an duty at
that duvet for the Get eight or ten weeks would be thew
prole. (Lambert.) He did not know wdatbir say boa.
gentleman had anything else to suggest. They would of
courts bootee& the church, and ready to be called in.
Mew coo or two other cinverious of no greet importance,

191,000,0001.; and In 1869-60, 200 000 la, ineraus
having °warred in every du In the ;me mod in the
agrioallnral chim the most of et In 181 the prose
psndthom al the country was 68,600,0001, • in 1863 it was
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71,600,0001.; in 18.59-60 it was 87,697' 0001 these
teeth fechulleg the local expeditors as well se that of the
stale properly so celled, showing • gradual and tarp in-
mwm The compare eve growth of wealth and expendi
tnn
was therefore wholly unequal, and it showed the co
arse
r be could
mged be
,
the made
duty in
of t
the eern
wadi the memo, was coarse with which he
woe far from madded. There wee • deficit of 9 400' 000/. to
b.
astNyter° radical change
. It wa
sent to take farther steps in the direction of '
bode and tionensem from imposts in pursuance of the
principles of free Weds, notwithstanding the unequal
state of remise sad expenditure which 'mimed. The
right hon. gentleman then entered into caloulatious to
show that remissicet of taxation had been accompanied by
beiresse of revenue, °misspent on the inmate of trade end
commeres. He did sot propose to touch the lazes en es or
sugar, and they would be renewed as they sow stood for
use year. As to the treaty with Fresco, that country was
to reduce the duties on oast tied iron in 1860 ; on yarn, Sax,
and hemp early in 1861. Oa the let of October, 1861,
the duties would be reduced or prohibition re-
moved from all British articles, so that no duty
should be higher than 30 per cent. ad valerian,
all the Ample rarenfecturee of Britain being included. In
three pen afterwards the maximum ditty was to be 26 per
aunt. ad valence On her part England was Mimed hums-
MaWy sad totally to atdbit all duly es all manufactured
goods fide France, to redoes the duty on brandy to Be. 11.
• gallon, on foreign wine (not merely ninth) to 3s. per
gallon, mod In 1861 still further, in reference to the strength
or the wit.—the lowest ditty being Is. per gain. The
dodge on Poach Midis chargethie with excise
duty In England to be the tame as the English
duty. The treaty was to be in force for len pees It
had been objected to the toasty, he said, that the duties
we repealed wen reeve= duties, laid upon luxuriee. which
did sot aged the poor me ; but he showed that not ose of
the duties deserved that character. He contended that
what we had date by the treaty was good for ourselves, if
Franco had dose nothing at all. Although wine was • rich
man's luxury, so was tea in 1760, and both tee sad sugar
might now be made luxuries of the rich Eddies enough were
imposed upon them. The wine duties were duties of protec-
tion, differential, not revenue duties. He denied that this treaty
indicated any subserviency to France, sad in glowing lan-
guage cad on the two countries to inaugurate • new epoch
charity, as distinguished from fonserbalousy and ill feeling
—• anion of the two nations, not merely of tisk two govern-
Pmts. The reduction of duty on wine would cause aloes
in revenue of 516,0001.; on brandy, of 225,0001. ; on maw
frothed goods, of 440,0001.; making • total of 1,190,0001.
As to the objection that these were revenue duties,
and did not relieve the poor mein, not one of them
wee a revenue duty, but they were all protective
duties. The right hon. gentleman quoted statistios to
Illustrate an argument to the effect that it was desirable
to make such • bargain with France as would allow of the
interchange of manufactures and commodities, which wee
already important, and which sod largely increase whim
Fresco was induced to break down her prohibitory system.
What had been done would have been good for this country
if Prance had done nothing ; It wee better for us in pro-
portion sit France did something. (This reasoning was
received with great approbation tram gentlemen behind
the right hoe. gentleman.) One result of the high duty
on Frisch brandy was the manufacture of an unhappy
production is the shape of • spirit called British brandy. As
to wine, It was mid to be the rich man's luxury, sad tea the
peer Josh's luxury ; but in 1760 tea was the rich man's
luxury, and sold at 20e. a pound ; sad by reducing
the duty you might make wins the poor ash's luxury.
In fact the existing duties were not merely protective
but prohibitory, and there was • pressure with regard
to that article which, apart from any treaty with
Prance, would compel • dealing with the wine duties.
The ooneumpdon of foreign wines in this country
bed greatly isereassd, by at hest 168,000 gallop
in uts last year, and concurrent with that there
had been a large eossumption of colonial wines and
eves of British wind. This showed • great demand
for wine, and there was reason to believe that a
greater production of wines fitted for the English
market and the middle and lower middle classes
of this country could be effected. He continued :
Then is a notion that there ie something fixed and tut-
changeable in the English taste for wine, and you will find
many people In this country who bellow., as if it were an
article of the Christian faith, that an Englishman was not
born to drink French wine, and do what you will
with him, sad even if you endeavoured to pour It down his
throat, din he would reject it. (A laugh.) This is the
opinion of • most worthy portion of the community, who
tuna their judgments from the narrow world of their own
experiesas, end will not condescend to look beyond it. But
it is absolutely the reverse of truth. There le nothing more
rermaketillo in the Eugish people than their taste for French
wine. In the early periods of our history it had • great
oonsumpthoo, and the not drinking it is altogether a new
thing. If you go beck to what • distinguished living post
of ours hes well celled " the spacious time of great Elisa-
beth," you will find that the most delicate lady
in the land would have no difficulty to brook-
faatisg on beefsteaks and boar—(e laugh)—end
although of course that would not do now, it shows
that there is Pilling MT* mutable than these testes. But
in tholes days, said down to the wars of the French revolution,
French wine was greatly consumed in this country. In 1687
there were Laporte& into this country 380,000 gallons of
French wise, about ere-thirds of the whole quantity of
ionise wine we now cumenme ; and how was that altered ?
It was by the infinities of prohibitory duties. By &geese
the English people was positively beaten end starved out of
their taste for Frisch wino. (Hier, beer.) But the teeth
itself remained for • hundred years after that, and when Mr.
Pitt made the treaty of 1786, what was the result, acoordthg
to that interesting paper compiled by Lord Chelsea? In the
years preceding that treaty the average import of French
wines was under 100,000 gallon.. In the six yearn from
1787 to 1792 the import grew is 683,000 gallons Then,
with the war, two or three years after, • high differential
duty, though sot quite a prohibitory ono, was imposed, and
the average fell to 161,000 gallons. At that gs it re-
mained until 1824, and then the differential duty was reduced
from 4.. 6d. to 2s. 5i., and the consumption sprang up 'gain
to 379,000 gallons. I admit that when the duties were
equalised is 1830 the commotion of French wine did not
thoreses On thecoutrary, at first it ra cher d ; it dewed
se if, by that time, after the pressure of • century and • half,
the use of it had bees nearly forgotten by the people, and it
continued to be the luxury of • limited char But in con-
juuotion with the other changes of twits of late years, we
may likewise perceive, eves at tits: present duties, the growth of
• taste for French wine; for whereee from 1826 to 1830 we
only consumed 379,000 gallons a year, aid after 1830 that
was reduced to 110,000 or 116,000, on the avenge of the hat
tan years treks,' consumed 634,000 gallons Spar, so that the
consumptbn has bees increasing. All these things show
that it le really idle to talk of the taste fur port and sherry,
and the highly-brandied wines se fixed and unotunogesble is
this country. The truth is that there Is the power of an un-
bounded supply of wine, if you slue year law ; and not of an
unbounded, but of an enormous Increase In the demand fey
this most useful and valuable commodity. (Cheers.) Now,
I think that is the cps for as alteration in the present
system of wise duties. But consider the immense mass of
evil connected with the present duties. Look at the system
of fraud and adulteration that gore on. There is no trade in
England carried on by houses which are, some of then, of
it higher disrseter than the wine trade; but they
will tell you what Meshy they have in holding their
ground againat poisons of an inferior character, who are
brought litho that bode, how and why ? because your law
draws them there ; because the restrictive operation of that
law is so severe that it affords temptations which they
tenet robe M cawiterhiltiag the article on which you have
plesel such heavy duties. (liar.) That is the way is
which the wise duties work ; sad lot ine, in conolusice, ask
yea to emsider use other thing. We hear of the rick men's
luxuries sad of the artioles which theipoor man does sot en-
sue Now, I make my appeal to the friends of the poor
MA, whoa I ray, there is one time that u WHO to all, a lane
when trim may be to the poor man somethisi more then •
Iliwy—ea talkie el posesity ; I mean the time of 'Wheels.
(im) I yes whet bed of wine it is that edatialeteeed