The Express.
London, England, 1858-05-15 00:00:00

asked the house to look at the the good effects of the pen
punned in then cuss.
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lib. DILLWYN moved, an en amendment of the reed -
tits, that the holm generally
_approved Lord Cianja:,
up to the time of the Oude non, end see
with his firmness and juggrmmenlar but declined
to give any opinion upon the proclamation anti
bed further information. He did not like, lie said, to mese
the resolution with • direct negative, believing that Lord
Cembw had been hardly used in the despatch; but he ad-
mitted that blame was due to the late Pregidmt of the Beard
nat Motu! (Mr. V. Smith) for the suppression of Lord Cap.
Coel
SYKES wee convinced that Lord Canning Arm
natant to carry out a system of oonfiscation of the lands of
Code. The 'minden, though termed landholders, were not
pummel of land, but were hereditary officer., collecting the
revenue derived from the land. He thought it would be
greed misfortune to the ootmtry if Lord Canning were mat.
Iced to • paltry squabble in the House of CORIMOCe.
Mr. BAILLIE explained the circumstances connected
with the answer he had given to Mr. Bright's question. Be
should like to know, he said, what would have been the
result, after the proclamation bad appeared in a newspaper,
if, when he was leaked whether the government approved or
=lait, he bad replied that they had formed no
the subject. A conciliatory policy, he dated,
land been urgently desired by Sir J. Oceram, but the cowl,.
cation mentioned in the proclamation, if taken literally,
would include not only the property of the talookdars, but
religious property, the lands of mosques and liindoe
temples, as well as the pommies* of the village 00111011W-
ties, onestittling a large portion of the property of Oude.
Mr. V. SMITH was ready to take *me on the proclama-
tion of Lord Canning, who had the beet advice, and who,
be had no doubt, wee actuated by the notion, which bad iu-
fineoced every Governor-General, that it was the first duty
of the government in such cues to show their power,
But this was not the issue before the horde,
which wee whether the government had not been
precipitate in condemning the proclamation, which
would have • mischievous effect in India, there
being no necessity for such precipitation. Mr. Smith
then proceeded to vindicate himself from what he considered
a personal attack made upon him by the Solicitor-Oonerl
relative to the withholding of Lord Cenning's letter, which,
though repeatedly invited to read, he refrained from reading.
Lord STANLEY hoped the house would do the govem-
meat the joule* to believe that it was not their desire to
avoid, or to shrink from that part of the enquiry into their
conduct which the right hon. gentleman had set on foot. la
the statement of the right hoe. gentleman be found nothing
to complain of, but he thought it a just ground of complaint
that the enquiry had been unduly sad neatly limited.
(Cheers.) The right hon. gentleman asked the home town-
eider the conduct of the government in seaming • particular
act dLord Canning, without, st the same time, con=
the policy and justice of the act which they were
for condemning. (Hear.) The charge monist the govern-
ment vas twofold. In the fleet place, there was the norm
Oros, "who is reeponelble for the publication of Lord Ellen-
bceouo's despatch f^' and then came the wider question, was
it a dispatch which ought to have been written ? The
question of responsibility was one which he approached with
scene pain, for it vres always painful to seek an excuse at the
=of • colleague. But in this case there was some-
more important than any private or Iscardattiterest.
' He wished distinctly to remind the omit Lord
Elkinborough had stated that the promise gives
that the despatch should he publiehed, wu gen*
on the authority of Lord Ellenberougi alone, and not on the
authority of any other member of the government. Bo
now came to the other point—ought the despatch
to ham been written at ell I, It had been said, why
not waft he the explanation which Lord Canning might have
offered? He would not go into the painful question of pri-
vate letters addressed to Mende, and was glad to escape hors
dealing with that pert of the subject. (Hear, hear.) Accord-
ing to the statement of the right hon. gentleman (Hr.
Smith) it was the practice of the India Board to
receive first of all a bare narrative of fact*, and,
after a long interval, an explanation of the narrative.
Ware they to wait till that explanation arrived P Did ths
matter not pear? They were told it was their duty to have
considered, and to have spared Lord Canning's feeh=fge
one in the house spoke with more respect of Lord
than he did. He thought that the acts for which by be
public he was meet censured were precisely those of will
he had a right to be rend, and that on the whole his coded
had been humane end fair—not without defects, but on tin
whole able and successful But was there nothing drib*
was to be spared besides the feeling of lard Canning? on
men's lives to weigh nothing in the scale? Wes be ember
don of property nothing? Wee it nothing le a
war, already difficult, into tho hottest and meet
mem of the year? He quite understood the policy
by the right hon. gentleman, the member for Oxford, in
speech in which he opened the debate, why he w
house to consider the subject of the censure of Lord=
borough's despatch, without conskierieg, at the same this,
Lord Canning's proclamation. If it had been a matter of 111*
moment, they could have well afforded to wait Ow mein
planation ; it had been merely in reference to some tor
actions past and gone, they might have been content le
wait. But they thought that every day that thee
proclamation was made public was so much added
to the danger and the difficulty of the Indian goon.
meat. Well, be would take the despatch of Lord Ellen-
borough end ask hcn. gentlemen to read it as it was ori-
ginally intended to be, en *Meal document not intended for the
public but only for the Governor-General of India.
Something
had been geld about passages relating to the riethroneoi
the Xing of Ouie and it was said that those pumps ought
not to have appeared. He regretted that those masages did
appear, but he asked the house not to confound the two
uestions—first, whether it was right that passages of that
character should be written ; meanest, whether, having been
written. it was right that they should be produced They
were addressed, not to the Sepoys, not the population
Oafs. not to any item= by whom It could possibly be
it wee the intention of government to reams
the of Cads ; but they were addressed to the labs
t, end written for en obvious rams.
were written to point out emphatically the wide dile&
thin that ought to be drawn between the conduct of the
Sepoys of our own army and the (redact of the population el
Club. As to the meaning of the despatch, be thought, der
the argument of his ben. and lammed friend, that any add'
lion of his would be superfluous. He did not wonder at the
attempt that had been made, and the wish that had been ex-
pressed, to construe the proclamation of Lord Canning
sense rather less wide than the words obviously bore. They
were told that the talookders were not proprietors, but that
they had only certain hereditary rights. They could not,
however, discus the case of the talookdare widest
entering into the wide motion of the tenure of kW in
India. But it was clear that these rights, be they whet they
*rIMO held and were moldered in di
id property. It was said that the Telociders mode
private wars amnia themselves. He would not enter into
the question es to hew Om bat description wee accurate, but
he would einem that V eon was in OM. • powerful landed
aristoeracy, having their it dresses end armed retaincoota.tt
was a cisme of men whom Say should not drive to
But it was not the fact that all the rights which wereQ6ll
by this proclamation were the rights of perigee so drew
stance& Hebei it on the highest authority that • kop
portion of the WNW in Oak eon In the binds of ilia
holders. The of taihrsimit ego us we both k
India as in • miry emboli end uemy nasuneig
its =dormant, whiclithhe proclamation Wig
bad heard a great deal about the danger el eandling
*ices of the natives of India, but he ventured to girliE
proclamation of this sort, which swept away all
men* of that character, might easily he reproented War
disadvantage, as the most reprehensible alb* that etul. be
made on the religion of the natives. If thermoset Mirth
of India were to be sacrificed to the latereste
boss, he, for one, should deeply refit* Ihr
they should have no reason to do othowne than 10
their thanks to the right hon. member for Oldest
had to thank him for placing them in the veils
officially they stood in, that of being the adored:4Z
spinet wrong—(chesrs)—ol being the edictal Of
a policy of humanity and of widow. (Chum)
might be the issue—and he, for one, lbsdieved Wet the teas
would be favourable—but whatever might be the beek •
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