The Express.
London, England, 1860-06-12 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 12, 1860.

DUTIES ON GAME LICENSM
Mr. lICHILEWION said the Chancellor d the Exchequer
whether, with nihreace to the alteration of the duties on
lem• breams he propped to contisse the excons in
W set 52 Goo. BU, as to the dautryia( crab
by ths proprietors el worms or la say easerest or
by the towns of bads, or by penes' by their dinettes
sad commas!.

The CH A :tiCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER sail he wished
to ry that he to leers the low entirely untouched
as it regarded tie -ielrtfs. of ra►bits ; sad, in point of
fact, be proposed to tat:oder ao change in the law other
than thre impressed fa the nothrikeis, sad the only one of
Yrs which had reference to game was that which included
the erekt. " deer" nadir the bud of pan.

self compelled to postpone this bill until such questions had
' been passed through thin house. There are other questions
with regard to the usual supplies of the year, and which are
not yet voted.. The every votes have not at present buses
granted, and there are the whole civil serves* auliziatas to
be dimmed. It might be rairmable to ask for • vote on
account, but it would not be nameable to postpone the
diseamion on these estimates beyond the early pert of Jaly.
Well, them questions would have interfered with the pro-
ceedings upon this bill, and made it asesssary to ask for
delay. But, sir, there is a still fortherquedian with regard
to which I must say • few words te the horse, and that
is as to the nature of the bill before us. I think it necessary to
Mate that the government were persuaded, and are per-
suaded, that a reduction of the borough franchise is required
for the future safety of the state and the improvement of the
representative system. (Cheese.) Many years ago, when I
had to consider this question, there wee a member of this
house (Mr. Hume) who urged that six out of seven male
adults were excluded from the franchise, and that among
those excluded there were to be found men of intelligence
and property who were fully entitled to the exercise of the
franchise. (Hear, hear.) The argument of the hoe. gentle-
man made a great impression upon me, and inquiries were
made as to who were excluded, and what was the diameter
of the working men, and those inquiries convinced
me that many of those men possessed sufficient intelli-
gence and Integrity which qualified them fur the exercise
and to the right of voting. But if that were the case then
their continued and perpetual exclusion from the franchise
would be an injury to them, and their addition to it must
strengthen the basis upon which our representative institu-
tions stand. I sin persuaded more than ever before, that
there are great numbers of persons who would exercise the
franchise well and worthily, and if admitted to it, that
the basis of the representative institutions of the country
would be strengthened and maintained. It is, therefore, -
sir, our intention at the earliest opportunity to introduce •
bill for the reduction of the franchise, nor am I discouraged
fromsaying this, because more than once measures of this kind
have been obliged to be postponed. But measures of liberal
principles which are in conformity with the opinions of the
majority of the house have been frequently postponed, but
when once they have obtained the anent of parliament,
they have remained permanently enrolled among the sta-
tutes and institutions of the country. For a long time the
sacramental test was required as a test for office, but no
one would now think of proposing the re-enactment of that
test. Then, again, the Roman catholica were
' excluded from this house and from holding office, in
con equence of an oath being required which they
would not take, but no one would attempt now
to pass a measure for the exclusion of the Roman
catholic'. A Reform Bill was passed through parliament,
and no one would now think of restoring the boroughs
which were then disfranchised. And in the same manner I
am convinced that when another reform measure has been
passed through the houses of p•rliament, for the purpose of
enlarging the franchise, and extending it to persons who
are Testified and who have • right to vote, no one will think
of disturbing that settlement or attempt to curtail the
right so granted. (Hear, hear.) It is, therefore, with the
utmost confidence that I look forward to the introduction of
a measure for carrying these principles into effect. But
before sitting down I must ask my hon. friend to withdraw
his motion, and on that being done I will move that the
order for going into committee be discharged. (Hear.)
Mr. MACK LNNON mid in answer to the appeal made
to him he must congratulate the house and the country upon
the settlement of this great question. (Laughter.) He
traded that the powerful mind and valuable time of the
noble lord would be better employed in carrying on diplo-
matic relations than in devoting them to this bill. The
noble lord might be better employed in settling the affairs
of the nations of Europe than: in sitting night after night in
listening to discussions on the question of the franchise.
He congratulated the noble lord, sod he trusted his efforts
as their foreign minister would be attended with the
greatest success. He also trusted that Englishmen in
general would cordially congratulate one another on the
determination of the government ; that all recriminations
would cease and be forgotten ; and that all hon. members
would be anxious to promote the business of the country
and set their shoulders to the wheel in earnest, in order
that they might make up for the lost time of the session in
these fruitless discussions. Under these circumstances,
with great satisfaction, he would withdraw his amend-
ment. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. DISRAELI—I think, sir, that her Majesty's govern-
ment have taken • wise and not undignified course to-night.
(Hear, hear.) it was much better, under the circumstances
in which the house finds itself in regard to the peeper of
public business, that the government should make up its
mind to adopt the course now proposed rather than have
allowed the house to go into committee and have wasted
more valuable time without coming to any satisfactory re-
sult. The government would only have prevented what
they will now find themselves able to do, viz., carry on the
business of the house with more rapidity and with greater
unanimity on both sides. I would not have touched
upon the Reform Bill now about to be withdrawn
had not the noble lord made some allusions to this
side of the house which I cannot readily pose by. (Hear.)
But I beg the noble lord and the house to recollect that if
this bill is withdrawn it is not from any successful oppoei.
tient, or any opposition of any kind—(" oh. oh")—any op-
pesition of any kind which has been offered to a real bona
fide amendment of the representation of the people.
(Laughter.) The bill has not succeeded because the gcvern-
meat has this year been encumbered with an immense mass
of public business of a character which rendered it impos-
sible for any government in the face of it to carry • bill
like the Reform Bill through the house; and, sir, as there
have been complaints on both sides of the house of delay, I
may be permitted to observe that the reel cause of the
delay has been the government undertaking matters of such
importance and encumbered with such details that it be.
came physically and morally impossible to carry the
measure which they have now so wisely withdrawn.
Of course, in the beat of debate, some imputatiose
have been dealt out on both sides ; but I am now
myiag that which I take literally to be the state of the
cam, beau,. I believe it would have been impossible for
the government to have carried on the business of the
country had thee persisted with this measure. The go-
vernment had other engagements which rendered the fur-
ther progress of this bill impossible. I shall not enter in
de.ail into the policy of the noble lord's bill ; but with re-
ference to the principle laid down by the noble lord, as to
the necessity of the admission of the working classes in
some degree to the franchise, I would remind the house
that that has never been a subject of controversy. What
we have disputed has been the means of carrying out that
object ; and in as far as I can read the public opinion or
follow the course of intellectual investigation. I cannot
help thinking that before the house is again called upon to
consider this question, means more satisfactory for settling
the question will be found than what I may
be permitted to call the coarse and vulgar expedieat
of the degradation of the franchise. (Opposition cheers.)
I would therefore say, on the part of gentlemen on this
side of the house, that while they see with perfect approba-
tion the course which the government has taken with re-
gard to this measure, we also conceive that they acted in a
spirit of perfect honour and propriety to this house. We
give them credit for being actuated by • sincere desire for
the public welfare, and an anxiety for the public service,
and I can assure them that they may expect from this
aide of the nouse every help and assistance in carrying on
the public business, and that consideration which is due to
a government, and especially to the noble lord, who has
sacrificed much that was dear, and honourably deer, to
many of its members. (Hear, hear.) Before I sit down I
have to ask the indulgence of the house for a few momenta,
while I explain • personal matter. If it merely concerned
myself I should no, take this opportunity of alluding to it ;
built concerns the feelings of another hon. member, and
it concerns matters which are generally interesting to all
members of this house. The hon. member for Birmingham
stated the other night that I had entered into a compect
with some one on his side of the house to introduce a re.
form bill something like his own, that was to say one with
under • 10/. franchise. The statement circulated very freely,
but, like others in which I have been concerned, I did not
think it necessary to take any notice of it, but when the
hon. member for Birmingham was about to found an emu.
meat on it I took the liberty of interrupting him and in-
forming him that he laboured under a complete misappre-
hension. It appears that the gentleman whose name had
been mentioned, and who was not in his place when I in.
terrepted the hon. member, was under the impression that
I dared I had had no communication whatever with him,
lad that the whole statement was unfounded. I should
be glad at all times to remove a false impremion, and as
this is probably the last time we shall this year have any-
thing about parliamentary reform—la laugh)—l trust
I shall be allowed a few moments whilst I
clear away this one, which intimately concerns the
relations between the individual who for the time being may
have the leadership of this house and its other members,
upon which ever side of the house they may sit. When 1
wee in that position it was often my duty, as well as plea-
MIN to be of service to gentlemen on both sides, and I see •
rasa many gentlemen on the benches opposite with whom I
have often been in communication, and I trust they will
admit that on all occasions they received from me every
passible courtesy. (Hear, hear.) Amongst others, I
mimed more than one visit in Downing-street from the gen-
tlemen who now represents Sunderland. It was no assent
appointment ; he came to me on a subject of great impor-
tance, and I may my that be came to me because I was
leader of the house—that was the fact. I did what! could
for him in the matter respecting which he ante, which
was of the greatest importance, referring, as it did, to con-
traband of war at • time when hostilities had just
commenced between France and Austria. Now,
it so happened that when he cams • newspaper
was lying on the table which contained an official, that is
to say an opposition official announcement, that a Tote of
want of confidence was about to be proposed against her
Majesty's government on the ground that they were throw.
ing over parliamentary reform, and should therefore be ap-
pose* by all tonedentents ratonanca Well, the boa now

bow for Suadistand called my attention to this pampa*
sad said Jima for his part he did not agree with the pro-
posed inotion, nor del he believe that • vote of want of
easidesses was one that the house would agree to. He
added that there were • peat many independent members
as his side of the hoer who did not approve of it any mare
than he did, sad when he svelte to me I cannot say that
there was anything confidential in our communications, but
with just so much discretion as prevented their degeuerat-
Mg into gossip I replied to kiln as I always speak to gen.
Horn every night, in that spirit of free and candid
intercourse which I trust will always exist amongst
members of this house, who will never forget that th are
not only members of parties, but also an assemblyof
gentlemen ; and I said that if he meant there was to be a
vote of want of confidence because there was not to be •
reform bill that session, there might be, but that it was
not our intention finally to throw over the measure. On •
subsequent occasion the hon. member said to me, " I can
assure/on there is a feeling of great dissatisfaction on the
part of a great many members of the house ; and that if
you can only say that government is not going to throw over
the measure, but mesa to deal with it another time, such
declaration would have an exordingly good effect' I re-
plied that it was totally impossible for me, or any
minister, to say, except in parliament, what was
to be the policy of government—that the policy of
government must be stated in my place in parliament;
but this I added, " Yon may depend upon it we
do not mean to bring forward another reform bill this year;
nor are wing to reject the measure altogether. We
do not ourselves bound by the bill which the hoar
has rejected, but hope still to dealt
with the question in •
satisfactory manner, and as you lay many members of the
house want to be satisfied before they vote want of confi-
donee as to what is to be our course, you may take it for
panted that before the vote is come to I will state what
would be our course of policy, so as that nobody shall vote
in ignorance." I believe that the hon. member for Sunder.
hand had confidence in what I Mated, and I cannot under-
stand what imputation could be cast on his honour for wish-
ing to have a clear understanding on so important a subject.
He was not the only liberal member to whom we
were often indebted whilst in office for a candid
and liberal support There can be no doubt but
that he exerted himself amongst his friends' and r
to what took place between him and me, it was aril what
may take place between persons similarly situated every
day. I think that the conduct of the hon. member for
Sunderland was perfectly parliamentary, honourable, and
straightforward. I stated that in a letter, when he was
attacked last year; but as the matter has now been brought
under the notice of parliament, I thought I would take this
notice of it in my pies. I take it for granted that the
feeling of the house in such matters is the same as my own,
and that there is no desire to pot a bar against frequent
communications between the leader of this house and the
members on either side. 'They do not, I trust, mean to
sanction it as a rule that the leader of the house for the
time being is to treat all members who may I. politically
opposed to him with the greatest reverence, or to look upon '
the conduct of the hon. member for Sunderland as anything
but proper and parliamentary. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BRIGHT said, although the announcement given by
Lord John Russell was received with much regret in his
(Mr. Bright's) neighbourhood, he did not blame him for the
course he had taken. He lamented to find his hopes
blighted, but felt that it would be unjust to attack the
government for difficulties for which they were not entirely
responsible. The session, however, had not been wholly
without results. The reform of the tariff was of itself •
measure of great importance, so was the commercial treaty
and nothing could exceed the good faith and honour of the
French government in their endeavours to carry out the
provider of the treaty. He had authority for saying that,
as the convention was now proceeding, the results of the
treaty would be such as to exceed the sanguine an-
ticipations of its friends. I hope (continued the
hon. member), that during the winter—between this time
and the time when we shall meet again—such of us as may
meet again—that there will be expressed throughout the
country a firm and wise opinion with regard to the
course which parliament should take in the coming ses-
sion. (Hear, hear.) Why should not hon. members oppo-
site entertain more liberal views! (A laugh.) An hon.
gentleman near the gangway laughed, but if this wets the
time, I could easily show him that all our legislation of which
we have reason to be proud daring his life and
mine—legislation according to what we term liberal
views —(cheers)— has been opposed by the
_party '
with which ho is oonnected—(crses of " no, no," and
" hear")—and has been supported uniformly ay the party
with which I have been connected. (Cheers.) Vfell, if it
be so in the past, why not so in the future! (Hear, hear.)
We may be as right in these questions as on those previous
questions. Look at the condition of our people. That
great measure which the Chancellor of the Exchequer has
passed this year—the reform of the tariff—is but • portion
of the great work that has been going on for 20 years—
(hear, hear)—and yet I will undertake to say that that great
work, completed within 20 years, has done much for the
people and poor of England in giving them the comforts of
life and some taste of indepeadence. (Cheers.) I say that
this has done more than all the party contests, party
triumphs, bloody wars, extensive conquests, martial re-
nown, and historical glories you have had for more than •
century past. (Loud cheem) Now what I want is that the
house should always consider the great body of the people.
The peers, the rich, the powerful, can always take care of
themselves and never suffer, unless it may be foe • time, in
great political convulsions which we all hope may never
visit our country. Look at the condition of the great body
of the people—their intelligence, their morality, and their
independence—and you find written in characters which
you cannot mistake the real truth with regard to the
government under which they live. (Hear, hear.) I say
then that the course taken by the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer is one laden with blessings to the great body of the
people— (cheers)—and lithe House of Commons would at
the same time, whilst so much good physically was being
conferred upon them—if in the same session it could have
shown its confidence in them by offering them this mode-
rate extension of the suffrage which the noble lord proposed,
I think it would have been said in after times that there
had been no session of the parliament of England
comparable to that of 1860 for the good it
had given to the people, and for the binding effect which
its legislation had had between the great body of the people
and the three estates of the realm. (Loud cheers.)
Hr. NEWDEGATE begged to say that, whatever had been
the course pursued by other hoe, members, he for one had
never given his approval to the bill of her Majesty's govern-
meet for the amendment of the representation of the
Perk JAMES said he most confess that the speech
made by the right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks
contrasted leery gracefully and strongly with the speech
made by the noble lord at the bead of the government on
the occasion of the right hon. gentleman introducing his
Reform Bill. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord (Lord Palmer-
ston) had said that the then government should not with-
draw their Reform Bill, and that they were bound to pro-
ceed with the bill, for they bad taken the government with
all its engagements. (Hear, hear.) He did not wish to
make any comment on the funeral oration on the fall of the
bill which had been spoken by the noble lord the member
for the City of London, but if the bill should want an epi-
taph to be inscribed on the stone where it lay, there was
one he remembered reading in the elegant extracts
when he was a boy :
" If so soon that I am done for,
I wonder what I was begun for."
. -

(Laughter.) He thought the lines would form a very apt
inscnption in memoriam on this short-lived child. (Renewed
laughter.) The noble lord (Lord J. Russell) was told
very early in the present year by_some hon. member, that
i the ntroduction of the bill would be is certain destruction
during the session. He thought that ministers had in-
curred a very serious responsibility by its withdrawriL
(Hear, hear.) In justice to hon. gentlemen on the opposi.
tion benches it might be said that the bill had been intro-
duced in such a form—was such a mere skeleton of a con.
stitutional

in bringing forward amandmento
with •-•

they °odd not fairly be charged—wiiii obstructive and on-
delays. There was no registration provided by the
rrirough the bill of the right boo. gentleman the
member for :Backs contained clauses of registration. He
(Mr. James) had called the attention of the government to
the /act, and the answer he received was cold, official,
bureaucratic, whigoeratic-(a laugh)—it was that, at the
proper time, the government would introduce another mea-
sure to provide for registration. After that answer he saw
at ones the bill could not possibly pass. (Hear, hear.) If
the mom» had pawed in August there would bays been no
elesdaw until 186'2, and if a dissolution had taken Am
afterwards they would have had twentyffive seats diatom-
&hied without any member being returned for the new am-
atituencies. He could not consider the taking the CODS=
wen any ground for postponing the bilk The government
taken upon themeelves a serious responsibility in with-
& If they had followed his advice with regard to
aedersYen advice which was given out of pure benevo-
lemer—(langhter) —and then had had the courage and
to go on with the measure, he felt sure it might
bees been carried. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. D. GRIFFITH contended that in any extension of
Om Wimp to the working dares they ought to provide
an equivalent compensation to the upper classes.
Lea FERMOY said that the house wee perfectly
boo from any charge of
to the when it was wirati.tiiixtteiemo, and the argu-
ment of time fellremem-
bered that this, which was to haws n par excellence the
reform, had lost six weeks at the commencement of the
session before they brought in their bill. (Hear, hear.)
Then as to the Chinese war and the defences of the country.
He did r.ot see say reason why they should not provide for
the Chinese war and the defences of the country and for a
Reform Bill also. (Hear, hear.) At all events this was no
sufficient reason why a government pledged to a Belem
Bill, as the present ministry were, should %blades
that pledge, seeing that the Chinese estimates might
be as well submitted, and the defences of the
country as well provided for by hon. gentlemen opposite as
by those who now filled the ministerial benches. (Cheers.)
Again, as to the want of enthusiasm on the part of the
country on the subject, the noble lord had, as he always
did on such occasions, favoured the house with sundry
chapters of constitutional history, and reminded them
that in the several cases of catholic emanciution, the Re-
form Bill, and free trade, when the principle of those mea-
sures was num carried by a majority of that Louse, they were
certain to triumph. He would ask the noble lord did those
measures triumph by being abandoned by their own pro.
moters ?—(omeition cheers)—yet such was the course the
noble lord took in the present instance. How could they
expect enthuses's& in the oonntry when the very men who
came Into power for the express purpose of carrying for.

ward a bill for improving the representation of the people,
abandoned It as soon as they experienced the slightest op-
petition ? (Cheers.)
Mr. B. OSBORNE—Though he had not been so fortunate
as to collect the tenor of the hon. member for Devizes'
&emotions, AM he pthared from their mournful tens,
thst, if not a mute, the hon. gentleman was a sincere
mourner on the present solemn occasion. (A laugh.) But
the bon. member, at all events, paled in contrast with
the hon. and learned member for Marylebone, for it was
evident to every one that the hon. gentleman was somewhat
of a merry mourner, and that, differing from his noble
oolleagne in this respect, he did not regret the premature
cbaeolution of the bill. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. B. Osborne)
could not agree with the hon. and learned member, that
any discredit attached to the noble lord (Lord J. Russell)
for giving up the bill ; and thought that the cri-
ticism of the hon. and learned member was as
unjust and ungenerous as that of his noble oolleague
the other member for Marylebone. (Hear, bear.) His
noble colleague was somewhat astonished, he said, the other
sled at the attack of the right hon. gentleman opposite
upon the noble lord. He (Mr. Osborne) was much more
estaniebed to hear the attack which the noble lord the
member for Marylebone had just made on the noble lord
the Minister for Foreign Affairs—(cheers)—and be must
say he did not think the house would be disposed to endorse
the opinions of either of the members for liarylebone in the
peemt instance. He could not subscribe to the opinion
that the noble lord (J. Russell) was responsible for the aban-
donment of the bill. (Ministerial cheers.) If responsibility
' attached anywhere it was to the conduct of the house in
this matter. The hon. member for Rye had got up to-night
and in a somewhat jaunty manner declared that he was the
man who killed cock robin—(cheers and laughter)—and
then he proceeded to congratulate the house ou what
he called the settlement of the question. He (Mr.
Osborne) could congratulate neither the house nor
the hon. gentleman on this settlement. (Hear, hear.)
He had come down to hear the question put that the hen.
gentleman's amendment should be withdrawn. But the
hon. member entered into a history of a similar motion
brought forward by him in 1831, and which he said he
brought forward because he was a devoted and consistent
follower of the noble lord's. Now, if he mistook not, the
hon. gentleman was not a devoted and consistent follower
of the noble lord's in 1831 ; but on the contrary, voted
on every occasion against the noble lord's Reform Bill.
(Cheers.) But the hon. member was then member for
Lymington, one of the boroughs minded in schedule B
of that bill, and he could understand the hon. gentleman
moving under those circumstances that the bill should be
postponed until the census was taken. He had, however,
no such ground of complaint now—for Rye was not
include.l m the list of boroughs that would be
interfered with by this bill ; but it appeared that
the hon. gentleman was so deeply enamoured of his first
love that nothing could prevent him from interposing this
ridiculous motion on every opportunity, thougn it had no
more to do.with the subject than the speech of the boo.
gentleman opposite. (Cheers, and laughter.) They bad
heard tonight something of the dignity and wisdom of the
proposed course. He (Mr. Osborne) considered that the
noble lord hail discharged his duty with dignity, but he
very much questioned the wisdom of the house in the course
they were taking. What were they in point of fact doing?
They were doing nothing but offering a premium for out-of-
doors agitation. (Hear, hear.) Hon. gentlemen said that
the people were indifferent on the subject of reform—that
in ha mind was 'not a theme for congratulation, for it
showed that the people had no sympathy with the present
House of Commons. (Cheers.) What were all the mo-
tions for postponement—all the instructions to the com-
mittee which stood upon the paper—penned for,
but to obstruct the WI? (Cheers, and " No.")
There had been no fair stand-up fight on the question.
The second reading had passed not sub silentio—for that was
impossible—for they knew the power of talk in that house
wits enormous—(cheers. and laughter)—butit hail passed

without • fight. The bill had not been defeated bat bed
been got rid of by • species of political assaasination —by
adminietering small dome of adjournment—(hear. bear)—
and now in the month of June, the bill not having got into
committee, sod there being no chance of its going into com-
mittee if all the obstructive motions on the paper wens
persisted in, the noble lord the member for Marylebone
complained of the noble lord the Foreign Secretary for
dropping the bill. (Hear, bear.) The noble lord (J.
Russell) had no other course—but it became that house to
consider and to consider seriously the position in which it
bad placed itself—for out of doors he believed it would not
be regarded with either respect or credit. What was their
position in respect to this reform question! The right hon.
gentleman, the leader of the opposition party, said in 1859,
when speaking in support of the Reform Bill of the late
government, and deprecating further postponement—
" that for fifteen years reform hail been a parliamentary
question, and that for ten years it had been a ministerial
question. That five times it had been announced as a cabi-
net measure, and five times it had been promised in
the speech from the throne," and yet in 1860 they were
doing what they did in 1859, defeatirg the Reform Bill by
delay. He thought it was calamitous for the party that
the right hon. gentleman opposite had brought in a reform
bill at all; but having done so he regretted that it was so
summarily rejected, and thought its rejection moat unfor-
tunate. (Opposition cheers.) He was inclined to think
that the right hon. gentleman opposite was right in the
course he took in relation to the Reform Bill and the late
government, and that be was most unfortunate in the way
it was met by the party now in power. ("Hear, hear," from
the same quarter.) But what had been the posi-ion of the
question since? Hon. gentlemen opposite were recent
converts to reform—for everybody was a reformer now—the
only question was as to the pace and who should drive the
coach. (" hear, hear," and laughter.)—but hon.
gentlemen opposite, by whom this measure was fled
brought forward, did they even so much aa hint
any opposition to the principle of the bill?
The right hon. gentleman the memlyn. for Droitwich 'meths
first to complain, and he slid so very much in the spirit al
Sir Prttful Plagiary. His complaint was that there was
nothing in the bill to complain of. The right hon. gentle-
man the leader, it was true, objected that the bill would
s= property and intelligence, but he supported the
i reading, and the bill vraa allowed to pass the seemed reed-
ing without • division ; and now they had all these pretexts
for amendment, which were too transparent to deceive any-
body except the noble lord the member for Mmilebone, and
he would no doubt change his opinion the next time he went
to a meeting at the Yorkshire Stingo. (Laughter.) He was
of opinion that the people of England, motet from being dis-
satisfied with the course taken by the noble lord (.1. Russell),
would sympathies with his position—though be did not
think they would very much sympathise with the position in
which the great body of the House of Commons stood. (Hear.)
" An open foe might prove a curse,
But • pretended friend was worse."
(Hear, hear.) What was the language used in refer-
ence to this reform bill by the noble lord the
leader of the conservative party in another place ?
He said, "I am of opinion that it is highly inconvenient
and dangerous that from session to session a question of this
importance and interest should be pernetually kept dan-
gling before the legislature and the country." (Hear, hear.)
And he added that, without pledging himself to the details,
he would give the subject his attention with an honest and
earnest desire not to trifle any longer with this great and
important question. (Hear, hear.) But what had the
party opposite been doing all this session but trifling with
this great and important question? He had quoted the
declaration of the noble lord the leader of the conservative
party in the other house. What was said by the leader in
the Boum of Commons? " Was parliamentary reform," he
&eked, " • subject to be left to fiction, to be dealt with in
times of excitement, and to be settled, not by the raison,
but by the passions of the people?" What wee the
house going to do now ? Were they going to
allow that passion and no season of the peo-
beeple to settle the question ? (Hear, bear.) Could there
a time more fit to pass a reform bill than the present,
a time when the people would be satisfied with much less
than they would be eventually if the settlement of the
question were postponed ? He knew the time had gone
by for discussing the measure ; nor was it his intention to
do so, but this he would say, if the house were cooteut
thus from year to year to shuttle off the question with
pretexts and delays that deceived no man in or out of the
house, the time might come when, with • bad harvest,
and discontent raging both at home tad abroad, they might
be called upon to pass a measure that was really not influ-
enced by the reason but the passion of the people.
(Cheers.) He was surprieel that the conservative party,
with such a fair offer as had been made by the noble lord
to settle the question in • way so conformable to the
tenets of their own politipal creed, should not have eagerly
accepted it and assisted in passing the bill, and thus en-
abled the House of Commons to show that they were really
consistent in their desire to settle the question. (Hear.)
Mr. HORSMAN, after remarking that the strongest op-
position offered to the bill had come from the supporters of
the government, entered upon an elaborate justification of
the course he had taken upon this question, end of the
mums which had rendered the present attempt to legislate
upon it abortive. He animadverted upon the incon-
sistencies of Mr. Bright in relation to the bill, and, re-
ferring to the promise, or something like a promise, which
had been given by Lord J. Russell to introduce another
reform bill, he warned him that it was no light thing for
a minister of England to discredit its old constitution, and
to promulgate the doctrine that it was a legitimate func-
tion of the state to make • new distribution of political
power, giving less to intelligence and property and more to
numbers. The house was now aware that this measure slid
not emanate from without, hut from official rivalry and a
desire to bid for the support of a political minority, which
ruled the Cabinet, the house, and the country, because its
support was a political necessity.
Mr. ANGER MIN deeply regretted the muse which
the government had thought fit to pursue.
Mr. BLANEY was of opinion that the government, under
the circumstances, had taken the right course.

The &avulsion was continued by Mr. R. Long, Mr. W. E.
Buncombe, Mr. Warner, and Mr. Whalley.
Mr. Mackinnon's amendment w■s then withdrawn, and
the order of the day for going into committee was dis-
charged. The bill was then withdrawn.
OFFENCES AGAINST THE PERSON BILL.
Tho Offences against the Person Bill, being one of a series
of eight bills sent down from the Peers, aud designed to con-
solidate various branches of the criminal law, was brought
forward for second reading by the Solicitor-General, who
entered into a legal explanation of the nature, scope, hie-
WIT, and intention of the several measures which the
house was now asked to unction.
A legal discussion ensued, in which Mr. Whiteside, the
Atiorneykieseral, Mr. Bowyer, Hz Healey, Mr. Areas

and other members took part. The bill was then read a
second time, as were the other bills of the criminal 'writ....
The Tithe Commutation Bill was read a second time, after
some explanation by Sir G. C. Laws.
The Landlord and Tenant (Ireland) No. 2 Bill we. read a
second thus, on the motion of Mr. Wernimiu, after a
brief diapason.- _ -

The adjurnail debate on the Tenure and Improvement of
Lend(' reland) Bill was then resumed by The (YDONOG II CI:,
who opposed the measure as being absolutely worthless
towards securing their just rights to the great body of
tenants-at-will in Ireland. He was, nevertheless, willing to
read the bill a second time, in the hope of being able to
amend it in committee.

Mr. LONGFIELD believed that the relationships be-
tween landlonla and tenanta were rapidly improving in
Ire:and. He approved of the bill, which he thought cal-
culated to improve the law andazneliorate the condition of
the tenant occupiers.
Mr. WEVOY also thought that the bill, though not
good, was capable of being made acceptable.
Mr. WHIT} IDE gave reasons for preferring the mea-
sure which he bad himself brought forward on the sub-
ject
Mr. HENNESSY defended the Irish landlords.
After some remarks from Mr. BLAME, and a brief reply
from Mr. CARDWILL, the amendment, moved by Sir .1.
Walsh on the 15th of May was negatived without a divi•
doe, and the bill read a second time. It was afterwards
committed pro formd, for the purpose of being reprinted
with amendments, and ordered to be recommitted on Fri-
day next.
THE MASTERS AND OPERATIVES BILL.

This WU was rod a third time sad passed.
COUNCILLORS OF BURGHS AND BURGESSES
StaLAND) BILL.
Iltis bill paned sullies.
LEASING ANDIMPROVING LANDS (IRELAND)

BILL.
This bill was read • owed time.
CRIMINAL LUNATICS.

Sir O. C. LEWIS obtained 1;;;;i;:o1;rirTir in a bill for the
better care and custody of criminal lunatics.
The other orders were then disposed of, and the house
adjourned at 10 minutes to 2 o'clock.

We are requested by Mr. Buxton, M.P., to state that his
name was accidentally omitted from the list of pairs on the
division on Thursday.
Mr. Angerstein requests us to state that he was kept
from the division of Thursday night by serious illness in his
family, which required his preaseoe.

MARKETS.

LONDON WEEKLY DOCK KETURNB.—Jcim 9.

Importd.
Bunan—West India casks 6,838
Mauritius bap 18,971
Bengal and Madras bags 460
Itnang —
Foreign 24,657
COr7in—W.l 6
Mocha
Ceylon
Coons—W.l. bap 3,512
Foreign 233
BUY—W.I 1,949

Deliver& Pr. Steel

2,9t1
16,293
2,210

12,04

133
2,524
800
168
814

IMPORTS OF FOREIGN GRAIN AND FLOE
From January 1 to June 2, 1800, and the c
period of IS6II

I 23,296
241,802
91,027 .:

! 19,440
I 0,062
,109,988

386,301 I zszon
441 635
4,250 ♦,730
25,497 , 35,642
7,757 10,011
10,752 I ♦,059
34,207 I ,016

rlt INTO LONDON,

MILO% I BULLS!. OM /LOCI.
QM Qn• irk Oaks.
1859
1888

116,791 93,500 I 144,818 18,139 8!,800
Doman, Dorman. Dammam. Increase. Decrease.
• Chlegy "Preach.

TALLOW.—The unseasonable weather last week elm.
bhng the chandlers to work and the supply of town tallow
being very small, we had a strong denuoid for Y. C. tallow
on the spot, which waa freely met by holders, and prices
were consequently steadily maintained. The market for
forward periods of delivery was firm, the trade buying from
day to day. To-day the market remains good in all posi-
tions, and closes : Spot, 525. ; June, 51a. 9d. ; July to
September, tils. 9d. to 6d. ; October to December, 51a. 9d.
buyers; separate monthly deliveries, August to December,
al. No Odessa here. South American, 525. lid., first
pipes ; 51s. 611. to 52s yellow. For town tallow 52a. net
cash is offered, but there appears to be none ready for de-
livery ; that price, however, would be taken for trifles
for delivery nest week. Cocoa nut oil is higher and firm
►t 455. 10d. to 465. ; Cochin. 445. ; Ceylon, 435. ; Sydney,
Palm oil quiet, at 45e. to 6d. ; rough fat, 2s. 90.—(From the
circular of Messrs. Smith and Charles, dated Monday
evening.)

merrom.—Lrriamor., Jcws 11.—Oar market has
opened very list and irregular, with a moderate business.
The sales are 7,000 bales. including 5,550 American, at
4.N. to 80.; 500 Sent, 3d. to 4K ; 260 Agyptian, 8.
to ; 350 Perham. Md. to BK.; 30 Bahia, 71d. ; 320
Maranham, 7K to Std.—of which 1,000 are for specula-
tion and export. The week's import is 26,017 bales.

CATITLE.—LnranooL, Jun 11.—The supply of beef is
larger, of mutton and lamb much the same as last Monday ;
the deriand very good for each at last week's prices.

00ALS.-LoNDON, Jowe 11.-Bates' West Hartley,
15s. &L ; Clark's West Hartley, 16e. ; Davison's West
Hartley, 16e. 3d. ; Hastings Hartley, 16s. 3d.: Holywell,
15s. ; Howard's West Hartley, 16a. ; Lambert's West
Hartley, 16s. 3d. ; To:afield Moor, 13s. ; TanSeld Moor
Butes, 13e. ; Walker Primrose, 13s. 3d. ; West Hartley,
16s. 3d. ; Wylam, 15s. 9d. ; *alls End Braddylbo Hatton,
17s. 9d. ; Walls End Framwellpte, 17s. 6d. ; Walls End
Haswell, ilts. 6d. ; Walls End LaMbton, 18s. 6d. ; Walla
End South Hatton, 18s. &L; Walla End Stewart's,lBe. 6d.
Wan End i&e, 17a. 9d, ; Walls End Hartlepool,;
18e. 3d. ; Walls End Haugh Hall, 17s. 6d. ; Walls End
Kelloe, lfts. ; Walls End Shimliffe, 16e. 9d. ; Walls End
Sw-th Hartlepool, .17s. 6d. ; Walls End South Kelloe,
17s. 9d. ; Walls End Trimdnn Thornier, 16e. 6d. ; Walls
End 17s. &L ; Camay and Marra Malting,
225. Gd; F'irThorpe, th's Robin Hood, 14a. 6d. ; Llangennech, 21..
-Ships at market, 78 ; sold, 77.

DAMAGE BY A THUNDERSIGEM.—OG Saturday
enening, between mix and .even o'clock, a storm of thunder
and lightning which passed over Manchester caused some
damage to property. The electric fluid struck the top of the
large new warehouse of Mr. S. Mendel, in Portland-street.
Several of the thick glass skylights were smashed, a wooden
partition was knocked down, and very distinct traces left of
its progress. A leaden gas-pipe had a piece melted corn.
pletely out of it, yet, singularly enough, both ends of the
Moe were fused up, so that the gas did not escape. In
Clarendon-street several squares of glass in a window were
perforated by small holes, without breaking the squares. We
have not heard of any personal injury, although there were
some narrow magma.

SITIINOSOIII;NE AND SHEERNESS RAILWAY.—A
special meeting of this company was held at the offices in
King William-street yesterday, Mr. Magnus in the chair,
when a resolution passed at a meeting in Queenborough in
August last, authorising the mixing an additional capital of
40,000!, with • preferential dividend of 5 per cent.—only
1,11601. having been taken up—was rescinded, and the direc-
tors authorised to issue the shares with • dividend of
per cent., at which there was reason to believe they would
be taken up. It was stated the line would be ready for
opening in • few days.
[Advertisement. k.— HOLLOWAY'S OINTMENT.
Smallpox. Vaccinatino. eething.—Durieg the period of teething
the child's nervous system is rendered Irritable, the skin becomes
dr) and feveriali, • rash succeeds, which Is followed by unsightly
elite for the prevention and cure of which every mother may
confidently rely on thin cooling and healing unguent which will
be found equally beneficial in the inflammation sometime, from
vaccination, and In smallpox 'twit will afford ease, prevent scars.
and contribute greatly Co the present comfort of the sufferer by
soothing the inflamed and suppurating skin. No nursery should
be without Holl.,wnye Ointment, %hien will prove itself an an-
tidote to almost all akin diseases; It will save pain In infancy
and dlangiunment in maturer years.

BIRTHS, MARRIAGES, AND DEATHS.

BIRTHS.

CARMAN.—Juno 10, at Ti7emle.;r7t—e-rrace, Hackney, the wife of

--
Mr. P. L Cartuan;ut a son.
DUCK WORTEL—June S. at Wear House, near Exeter, Lady

Duckworth, of a daughter.
OOLDNEY.—Jane 7, la South-drank, Tunbridge-wells, the wife
of the Bey. O. Ooldney, of a son.
HAP.PEIL —June 7. at Italeigh.villas, Cauonbury.park, the wife
of A. Harper, Esq., of a son.
IIAYTER.—June 8, at Inverness-terrace. Kensington-gardens,
the wife of H. G. !Lefler, Esq., of a daughter.
MARRIAGES.
IDWARDS—BIDEWELL —June 6, at Ayisharn. Norfolk. by the
Bev. H. Edwards, H. A. Edwards, Esq., of Ouilfordetreet.
Bussellequare, to Helen, daughter of W Bidewell. Esq., of
Manor House, Aylshain.
EVANS—SMITH.—June 7, at the Cathedral. Manchester, by the
Bev. W. W. Johnson, M.A., Mr. T. Evans, to Henrietta,
daughter of Mr. W. ii. Smith, all of theetham, Manchester.
HALE—PRITCHETT.--June 9. at St. Pancras Church. by the
Bey. C. H. Aodrews, Stephen Nickell. sou of E. J. Hale, Eaq.,
of Wobarn.hill, West Derby, Liverpool, to Elizabeth Ann,
daughter of O. H. Pritchett, Esq., of Burton-crescent.
DEATHS.
BACKHOUSL—Jan. 7, at Ashburn., near Sunderland, E. Back.
house, K 9., aged 79.
BBOADBENT.—Jung 6, at Blackburn. Mr. J. Broadbent,
Iriml
CHETWYND.—Jtuze 7, at Blahton Hall, Stafford. Lily Chet-
wynd, aged 80.
COlL—tome 10. In the 29th year of his age, William Henry,
second son of Mr. Thome Cole, of la, Newgalestreet, deeply

regretted.
MWAIL—June 7, at Preeruantle CUR, Southampton, Ann, relict
of the late D. Dewar, Esq., aged 74.
l'El'AßT.—June 5, at Datgaise Bowe. Makeld, N. 8.. amide
Scott Steuart, Fag.

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