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London, England, 1858-07-20 00:00:00

THE JEW BILL.

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held out greater certainty and a better . , great
work which they desired should be &ammo,. , .as entreated
the house not to lose perhaps the last opportunity of giving
that beard sufficient powers which three years sgo was
created as an efficient and popular representative of the great
metropolis. He could not sit down without answering a
question put earlier in the evening by the hon. member for
Evesham, who asked what was the nature of the rating
powers of the board. The power was that of sewer-rating,
which sainted beim,. There had been no alteration of the
nature of the rating by the bill. It was called • landlords'
rate, and unless in leases there were specific) powers to the
contrary, it was payable by the landlords. The noble lord
coltclud by earnestly urging on the house to read the bill a
second time.

Mr. GLADSTONE said that it appeared to him that his
noble friend laboured under • misconception as to the tone
and temper of the remarks which had been made in this
debate. His noble friend seemed to think that complaints
were made against the government for providing with hut.
and precipitation In this matter. Having listened to the
remarks which had been made, it appeared to him (Mr.
Gladotonel that there was no accusation against his noble
friend and his colleagues of haste and precipitency, bat that
there was an honest and ingenuous expression of the clini-
cally in which the house was placed when they were called on
to &sisal to a bill containing principles so sweeping,and when
they considered the amount of knowledge which they powered
on the subject. With that sentiment he (Mr. Gladstone) was
much impressed. He felt doubt with regard to all great
measures arising out of momentary causes. especially when
those cause appealed te the senses so directly as they did in
this instance. (" Hear, hear." and laughter.) Suppose the
plan should fail, or that the 3,000,0001. should be found to be
insufficient for its execution. One or both of these events
might happen. (Hear.) And what, then, would be the case
of the inhabitants of the metropolis? Weald they not be
able to point to the bill end say, " It was not with our will
that this was done, and it was not done on the petition of
those whom we appointed—it was not undertaken at the
time we chose; but it was the Influence of the disagreeable '
odoer of the Thames that brought the matter to maturity.
The provisions of the bill were not dictated by a regard to
popular principle, or the conviction that you understood the
question, but from a reckless haste to escape personal and
bodily annoyance." (Hear, hear) If the noble lord fully
understood the question, sad felt the ground secure under his
feet, he congratulated hiss on his happy condition. But,
along with many others, he frankly owned that he should
feel t cornier' and satisfaction if further time were
for consideration before the house gave its sanction
soy plan. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. Alderman CUBIT T felt confident that If the Metro-
tri Board of Works was invested with entire power to
• scheme, taking in charge also the public sad moral
responeibility, they would discharge their duty In snob • way
u to satisfy all the requirements of public opinion. There
was • defect in the second clause which he hoped to see
remedied in committee. He was of opinion that the filthy
water ought not to he poured Into say part of the Thames,
and that it ought to be deodorised. If the water 'hand he
carried to Barking-creek without deodorisation, the scheme
would fail. With respect to the constitution of the Metro-
politan Board, he could assure the house there were many
members of that board who would do credit to the house.
The board comprised both engineering and scientific, skill,
and the members were perfectly competent to select the
officers to whore the execution of the work should be en-
trusted. He teased the house would read the bill • second
time, and amend it so as to enable the Metropolitan Board to
any on the work Is Its own way. (Hear.)
Mr. CONINOHAM believed the proposed scheme would
prove to be • colossi failure, sad he would warn the inhabi-
tante of the metropolis that this was • direct attempt upon
their pockets; and the house would nod, having forced the
metropolis into this vest expenditure, that they would eventu-
ally have to aid the drainage of the metropolis out of the
national exchequer. (Hear, haw.)
Sir B. HALL intended to support the second reading of
the bill, but wished to state our particular reason which in-
duced him to take that MM. It wee euentlally necessary
in taking Mope for the pesellosesa of the Thames, that the
provisions whin he lamed is his bill should be enacted
is the present, end that the Metropolitan Board should have
than Power* of rabbi maw which were palmed in
There awe sows dams in the preempt !I which
retisitild grist neslionlemomi to which considerable op- ,
position would to atm.. Tbs right hon. gentleman the
=paten ter Bute led rimed to the report of the
oessuebsiosses sussh.sl la 1863, sad he ould
mews the right hessanhie sesame= that the bill I
thelure lnnepennt of iles metropolis wee Imnsi se
vaarti Penni, M esesaleaco with thessesessumbiloss of
the tomestememmers. It might be roavaisat kr him to 'towhee
Window of the sovorassaat with biped is the constitution
of that leased. Is telloshmilug the to be rid —" With re-
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were . represseted
Web; wad that the was too cumbrous a piers of
amelloory to perform with promptness and efficiency the
week tbr bad been entrusted to it. Ho considered that unless
the goverment consented to pay rates on the large end
valuable property which it pestered, and unless it substi-
tuted for the Board of Works a smaller and more effective
body, there would belittle prospect of the Thames being puri-
fied or the metropolis dreinld at • reasonable cost or within
• reasonable time. (Hem, hear.)
Viscount PALMERSTON hoped the house would agree
to the second reading of this bill, because if it were -
poised there would be an end to the possibility of nmed
evils which could scarcely be exaggerated. (Hear, hfl
He was speaking not merely of the evils which in their own
parsons they had recently experienced, be was speaking not
merely of the pollution of the Thames,whiel wee a great and
*rowing evil ; because as the metropolis increased the river
would more and more become a great sewer; likes sewer it
would stink, and like • sewer it would berms a warm of
pestilence and disease. (Hear, hear.) It was, there-
fore' a matter of the utmost' importance to vent
in More the sewage from entering the
Many persons said that though it was very &married& to
smell this stench, and though people were sometime' mode
sick es they wear to eat their white belt dinners at them-
wich—an i 1100111•11111011011 whiob he hoped the right hos, ow
tlemen opposite would not suffer on Saturday next—
(a laugh)--still, it wee said that there had been no greet
amount of disease arising from the state of the Thames,
Fortunately there was no epidemic prevailing just now • but
if by any mischance we bad bad the cholera when this aim&
did any man suppose that it would not have greatly
*chromed its ravers P (Hear, hear.) But entirely
apart from the consideration of the Thames, there
was an amount of misery and suffering endured by
a large portion of the inhabitants of London arising free
imperfect drainage of which few bon. gentlemen ware swam
On the north of the Thames there was the Hackney brook;
and he wished hon. gentlemen could bear the dreriptione
which persons from that neighbourhood gave him, while be
was at the Home office, of the sufferings they endured frees
the stench of the brook, and the floods to which they were
liable whenever there wee soy neural quantity of vein.
(Hear, hear.) This was an evil that urgently required
remedy. (Hear hear.) South of the Thames there was a'
large population living in districts where there aria no
drainage at all, except daring • small portion of the day ;
and whenever there was very considerable rain fell the

abominations in the sewers we; forced beak Into the base-
ment stories of the house, and en amonst cf entering was
experienced which amid hardly be conceived. (Hoar, bear.)
This was en evil that could not be rest by any plan of
deedreisation ; but tunnels must be made to convey the
sewage down to a lower level. (Rem, bear.) He thought
the bill was a little defective in providing that the Winds
should be curled down to Baking Creek, and to the point
opposite, which In thought were too near. (Hear. hear.)
If when the three millions were spent it was found that suffi-
cient relief had not been afforded, the board would oome beck
to the home, and say, that as parliament had in a reassure
forced them to adopt a plan which wee ourntially and radi-
cally defective, parliament was blood to assist them with a
grant of public money. (Hear, hear.) There wes one point
to which he hop_cl the attention of bind would be
aerioudy directed, namely, the utilisation to win:dental
purposes of the vast amvuot of matter which
was daily discharged into the Themes. (lieu, hear.)
There was no question that there was a great toss of fer-
tilising power in the refuse which they were going to throw
tato the Thames. It was quite true that no prawn had yet
been discovered for the porpoise of rendering the sewers
applicable to the purposes of agriculture ; but he hoped that
sons practical means would be discovered, and thus convert
into* sums of national wealth that which they were at
present throwing into the German Ocean. (Flew' hear.)
Mr. COX said that when the bill reached the committee
it would be necessary to reconsider the area of rating. Them
were several large perishes which would reap all the benefit
of lice works, but which at present were not included in the
metropolitan district. It would also be necessary to tete
steps for the purpose of settling the relations between the
Board of Works sod the Board of Conservancy.
General CODRINOTON reminded the house that the
sswsge was proposed to be sent into the Thames within •
male sad • half of Woolwich.
Kr. BUTLER also insisted on a revision of the mistropo-
Ina district. They were told that the bill did not impose
any large amount of taxation ; but they must remember that
there ware a thousand miles of street in which there Wen SW
omen at all.
The bill wee then read a second time.
WAYS AND MEANS.—HARBOURS OF REVCO!.

Oa the order of the day i;;;;;;,ii;gui, tie report ci fie
oommittee of 1.111.11 and meon
Sir J. PAKINOTON, teplylog to Mt. Moos, said dal

On the motion forg;i;giiicoemittee on this bill,
Mr. KNIORTLBY said he was opposed to all roasswes for
admitting Jews to parliament, but of all the measures with
that object, that which had received the sanction of the Earl
of Derby, the prime minister of England end the leader of
the conservative party—(hear, hear)- was, in his opinion, the
very wont that was ever submitted to the consideration of
the home. ((Cheers from both sides of the house.)
Mr. GILPIN did not wish to detain the house furtive, than
to my that he had no doubt the views expressed by the hon.
gentleman who had just sat down were shared b a large
majority of that house. (Hear, hear.) H. this bill
as • miserable compromise, and he only accepted It as
the best that could be got and as only for the
present answering the purpose of those who wished to admit
the Jews to parliament. Those who were desirous of admit-
ting the Jews to parliament educated their claims as • ques-
tion of pelooiple, and hon. and right hon. gentlemen opposite
It as a question of principle, and now there was
thrown among them, with an entire ignoring of principle,
this miserable subterfuge, sad he was not ewe that it was
creditable to any party to accept it. (Hear, hear.) If he
had not felt that there was something more than personal
tZsomething very deep at stake, he should not have
t itworthwhile to accept it rather than to get nothing.
He was almost inclined to agree to postponing this question
to another esedon, and fighting it out upon principle, Instead
of agreeing to this unsatisfactory mode of settling such a
question. All he could say was, that be thought it only a
little better than nothing. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BENTINCK said a clause had been handed to him with
a request to move it in committee; and his only reason for net
wishing to do so was that he did not desire to mix himself
up in • matter so little creditable to all concerned in ft.
Otherwise he believed that the clause would be accepted by
thou who were in favour of civil and religion' liberty by
acclamation. It proposed to give the same liberty to all
chases, and it proposed to add to the first clause the fol-
lowing words :--" Be it bulbar enacted that the provisions
of this bill be extended to all Turks and heretics of every
"ride." ("Hear, hear," laughter, and cries of " Move.")
He should be ready to vote for it, but he did not wish to
propose% became) ha had no desire to be mixed up with this
discreditable affair. If you passed this measure you were
bound in justice to include Turks, infidels, and heretics.
(Hear, hear.) He was glad that the clause met
with so much approval. He complimented the noble
lord (.1. Russell) on the part he had played in this matter,
and he only hoped the noble lord's own red ecticos and the
part he would play in the eyes of posterity in relation to this
question would be as satisfactory as he could 'wish. (Hear.)
Mr. SPOONER said the house was placed in the extra-
ordinary position of being eked to go into committee on a
bill in favour of which no one had said a word. The noble
lord opposite mid it was not his bill, and only agreed to it
because it carried out the object he had in view. What was
that but saying that the " end justified the means," and
was that to go forth to the country as the principle on which
that hones acted. This meson was a great disgrace to the
other branch of parliament—(bear, hear)—and an insult to
the Hones of Commons. _

Lord J. RUSSELL—The hon. gentleman thinks that we
an about to praised by resolation without the authority of
law, to seat Baron Rothschild in this house. Now, if this bill
pulses, it will be seen clearly that he site under the authority of
en act of praliatneur tewbkh the Boum of Lords has already
assented, and to which it I. hoped the crown will give its
consent, without which It will not be an act of parliament.
There was some doubt in the case of Mr. POW' whether the
house in proceeding by resolution was acting according to
law, but in this cue there will be no doubt. It is not for
me to defend the bill of the Home of Lords, but I think that
the Earl of Derby, the bead of the conservative party. Is en-
titled to a little more respect than has been shown towards
him by hon. gentlemen opposite. Rear," and le .ighter.)
On the question that the Speaker do leave the their,
The house divided ; the numbers were—

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of he pennuidae,
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of authorising the house
rea g the Jews se • body.
gZ. RUSSELL contended that for the purpose ofd-
witting the Jews, it wee necessary to agree to the bill as ft
now stood. It would not be necessary to pass • resolution
every time a Jew might present himself at the table.
Whenever a Jew should appear and Mate his conmdentiou•

objection, it would be competent for the boons to peas a nor
lotion declaring that henceforth any person of the Jewish
persuasion should be admitted.
After a few words from Mr. Wrnson,
Mr. SPOONER moved a proviso to the effect that rash
resolution shall not be acted upon till the consent of the
crown is signified to both houses of parliament.
The proviso was put and negatived.
The remaining clauses were then agreed to, and the Chair-
man was ordered to report the bill without amendments.
The house next want into committee upon the Government
of New Caledonia Bill, and afterwards upon the Civil Bills,
ko. (Ireland), AM Amendment Bill, the clauses of which
were discasead at greet length and ultimately agreed to.
Other bills were forwarded a stage, and, the remaining
orlon (the aggregate number being 40) baring been diepoesd
house adjourned at hell-past two o'clock.

An address Das just been presented to the Rev.
Mr. WLeren, a Baptist minister' who has removed from
Southampton to Manchester, by lain late Southampton
r con-
, . It is elepatly written in illuminated letters, sail'
fy= an the names of the subscribers to a subduing,
testimonial to the reverend gentleman. The add=
frame, usessures about 4 fest by three. Mr. •
Southampton Mende wished to poetess plisisarapidsoalsa,
of it, but there wu no private apparatus in the tonc_
to enough take them. Mr. Peeler, who has charge
document, applied to Colonel James, the chief of the Ord.
nonce Survey at Smthampton, for permlwrion to obtain pho-
tographic copies by means of the Ordnance apparatus, a re-
quest which was immediately granted.
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- POI/ THE PROMOTION OP SOCIAL
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hats The arrangemeats for the meatiest, add*
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St. Georgebetudl, will be tinder the control of the mayor,
as chairman, Mr. Christopher Bushell and Mr. Samuel
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vice-chairmen, arnumerous and influential coca -
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the executive committee is Mr. George Melly, one of the
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The objects it contemplates are fully set fare, smi=r:
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called on to pay he expense of such • work, and if they bill, moved to delis ths woad 1011dilig for three months; Much merriment was caused during the division by the
who
.woulA have to but this meths wee sees•deL estrum. of Mr. Spooner along with the majority, the bon.
ell:tuft Zithers a oe haan east lt='lealli he fie • _4ll at sewn • - We the wren lobby sad .et eelly voted
earnestly insist oa, what better *lin could be edepied Om lir' N
that proposed by the bill ? And until some other plan, which Br a ill Ili. • ' • . • .
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held out greater certainty and a better hope that the great Board of` Works supplying it with etas pewee* well wiser ~ E. -41 , 4,'. ' "e .'• 444.4 en . •
work which they desired should beaooomplished, he entreated necessary to undertake the work, nor did the government th ~,,wiety of stet 0 (0 ,th.eme, 10010 AD
the house not to lose perhaps the last opportunity of giving Itself assume the responsibility. For his own part he had Oaths Bill. He also objected to the clause on the
that beard sufficient powers which three years ago was aim ran an unqualified support to the Metropolis Manage' that it only enabled the house to pun a resolution cr.
created as an of and popular representative of the great mead ot. He considered that the owners of the tee-simple admission of individual members of the Jewish pen
metropolis. He could not sit down without answering a of London were inadequately reprecented in the Board of instead of authoriring the house to pass • goanlpasotados
petition put earlier in the evening by the hon. member for Works, and that the board was too cumbrous • piece of reenonetee the Isur.... llntiv.