The Express.
London, England, 1860-03-17 00:00:00

WINE LICENSES.

Yr. E. JAMES eked thel6l7;Oellor of the Exchequer
whether, in the bill introduced by him for the granting of
wine Beam" It wee intended to exclude houses licensed for
the vele of hear older the provisions of the acv regulating
the ode of bier, freer the right of obtaining licenses for the
sae of refreshment; and, if re liesinral, then free the right
of obbiWaga limes for the sale of wines, under the provi-
sions of thisliM

The CHANCELLOR of the =CHEQUER observed
that cf canna he had so authority to construe the
language of the hill beyond say ether person, although be
wee its homer, but he would describe in a few worth the
intention of the IA and be was the more willing
to do so became he hid sees a men of convenient analysis
in the public papers, feces whisk he did not think the effect
of the proposed enactment was rightly apprehended. (Hear,
hear.) The bill had two principal objects in view ;
he would not mention wonder', ones. The first object
related to refreshment houses as a class without exception.
The object with respect to refreshment houses universally
was to remedy an evil much and justly coin-
phased of —that they were exempted from the supervision
of the police.. If it phased the house to give its
agent to the provisioaa of this bill, the effect of it would
be thud all occupiers of such houses would be compelled to
take out licenses at a low rate, with the exception of
certain small houses in country places. They would be thus
tinder the supervision of the police, and subject to petiolate
and restraints. (Hear, hear.) The other object of the bill
had reference to those refreshment hoses which
might properly be termed eating-hones; and an attempt had
been insule hi the bill to define what was the true nature of
an eating•lionse, in order to ensure the faithful and Jon de-
finition in practice. The keepers of eating-honse%;
defined by the bill, would have the pri
of atTling for licenses which would enable them
to sell foreign winea. The boo. member *eked whether
it was meant to exclude houses which sold beer? Hie answer
to this caning' was, that he desired by the bill net to tone
in anzser what wee known as beer-houses, that was io
say • • houses kept kw the sale of beer, and bolas(
limns the Beer Acts. To a further criestion,
• license foe the sale el beer would ipso fade lie • i=l.
ficatioa for the Isle sl wise. he most say that that we a
west upon whisk the Dore would hays to weds* its own
Jet ; but as the bill "hod, sad in the iateediaa with

wTtioh it was- -flamed In the ems at eating-houses licensed
'!crabs note of beer, It -eimenetrament that that of itself
should oceuttitute s dialtmlithation for the sale of aloe.
SAVOY AND NICE.
Mr. KINOLAKE waited to ask the Secretary. of State
for Foreign Affairs, whether there was any objection to lay
upon the table of the house bit answer to Toed Bloom-
field's despatch of the 3rd day of March, respect-
ing the proposed annexation of Savoy and Nice to France?
On Tuesday last the noble lord at the head of the govern-
ment led theta to expect that the proposed annexation
would Prot take place without France consulting, and sin-
cerely consulting, the other powers of Europe. He
Irwited that the noble lord would now be able to my that
the expectations thus held out had not been Wailed, that
the rumours of the bat two days were inconsisteat with the
truth, sad that it was not a fact that thei..E.m.q of the
French, in "pits of ahe had said, was I. to that
annexation without consulting the great powers Europe,
Gad that he was carrying annexation on to the extent of in-
cludingChablais, Fancegny,audGenevois. He truatedthatthe
information which the noble lord might give would remove
much of the anxiety which now s:ed Europe. (Hear.)
Sir R. PEEL wanted her y's government to
come forward in a loyal and ist tf manner, and
prated against the conduct of France. He denounced this
policy, for the union of Savoy and Fiance would not only I
affect the future interests of Piedmoat and the future cos.
dition of Savoy, but it was the fret step, the first act of •
conspiracy against the sights and the liberties of every
state of Europe. (Hem, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL mid—My honourable friend the
member for Bridgewater has asked for the answer to the
despatch from Lord Bloomfield of the 3rd of March, with
regard to Savoy. Now, that is • despatch containing an ac-
count of &conversation between Baron Schleinith,the Minister
of Foreign Affairs in Prussia, and the French minister, and
therefore It dots not call for an answer from me.
We have continual intercourse with the government of
Prussia, and more than once I have had conversations with
Count Bernsterff, the minister of Prussia in this omin.ry,
and we entirely agree in our views as to this annexatim.
(Hear, hear.) Ido not know that I can say more than I
said both in July last and January of the present year ; but
we continually express, as the hoe. gentleman will see in
tpaiers to which he alludes, we have continually ex-
pressed, both at Berlin and at Vienna, and also at St. Pe-
tersburg, our objection' to the annexation of Savoy, leaving
them to take the part which they should think right on
' that question. I cannot say that I have heard been Vienna
any satisfactory account of any steps which the Austrian
Government will take on this subject. There Si, names
which every member of this house will imagine why the
government of Austria should not, be particularly melees
that there should be no partition of the dominions of
the King of Sardinia, seeing that both in Lom-
teic
rtidi and in Tuscany she has lost dominion'
belonged to her or to members of her house.
However, it is now a month ego since I made repre-
imitation's at Vienna—afterwards I made representations at
St. Petemberg—and it certainly is a disappointment to her
Majesty's government, considering that so long • time his
ekped, and that the annexation has been, as it were, im-
pending all this time, that we have not received any notice
that there is to be say great protest on the part of
those governments against the annexation. The conduct of
Count Cavour hat certainly a good deal of the character
which my hon. friend the member for Tunworth has given
to it, because when Count Cavourtsid sane time ago that the
King of Sardinia would not cede or sell Savoy, lee goes on
in the latter put of the despatch to ere that if the people
of ...avoy are diipmed to belong to another empire, that,
however the King of Sardinia might regret it, he should
not object to it. Now I certainly feel that that
is • very extraordinary and uniseeemity declaration,
We know very well that there are countries, there have
been countries lately, which have felt themselves so op-
pressed by their governments that they wished to sever
the connexion. But we never heard that in Savoy there
was any such feeling. There has been no indication till
lately that the people of Savoy wished to sever their con-
nexion with Sardinia ; and it it therefore, a singular, and I
should say an unprecedented, thint for • sovereign to say,
subjects
" These of mine are mue attached to me, I value
them very much. At the same time, if they wish to sever
their allegiance and belong to another country, I have no
objection to their doing so." It certainly looks as if the
King of Sardinia was not unwilling to part with Savoy. I
must say that our position has been • good deal infiummed
by this. If the powers of Europe decline to isterfere, if.
they feel no great interest on this subject, if
Prussia and Great Britain are the only Eiirtpmn
powers that feel a greet interest in it, and if the
King of Sardinia is apparently willing to yield this territory,
it certainly has become a very difficult matter to oppose the
annexation. (Hear, hear.) But there is another point
which Ism now going to state to the house, because after
the questions that were asked of me by • noble lord not now
present I think I ought to state to the house that them
was delivered to me yesterdays despatch from H. Thouvenel
to Count Persigny, in which the writer mks that the case of
the annexation of Savoy might be laid before her Majesty's
government for their consideration. The despatch is a very
temperate one. It is clear altogether of national boundaries.
It states the case as one of special interest, arising from
special circumstances, namely, that the position of Italy is
changed, that the position of France is thereby changed, and
that therefore this is • special case that deserves special con-
sideration. But although it is stated in the despatch that
this question is submitted to the wisdom and equity
of Europe, yet I must say, taking the whole of the
despatch together, and considering the term used, that it is
necessary for France to have a secure frontier, I think I
should hardly be judided in saying that the powers of
Europe are wombed, and that by their verdict the French
empire will be guided. I have not yet laid this despatch
on the table, but I am stating all that I know on the sub-
ject. We shall consider maturely what answer shall he
given to this despatch, but the whole despatch, and cape.
Sally that part of it which relates to the question that my
hon. friend the member for Tamworth takes such interest
in—the question of Esucigny and Chablate—is one of so
much gravity and importance, that without say-
ing more about it at present, I will nevertheless
add that it requires most grave consideration.
! I shall lose no time in laying the despatch and the meter
to it on the table. (Hear.)
The motion for the adjournment was agreed to at twenty-
' five minutes past eight.
1 CHINA.

On the motion for going iato committee of supply,

Sir DE L EVAN S rose to move an amendment:
"That humbly participating in the wish of her Majesty
expressed. in her most gracious speech on the opening of
this session of parliament, that she will be gratified
if the prompt acquiescence of the Emperor of China in the
moderate demands which will be made upon him by the
allies, shall obviate the neoesaity for the employment of
' force in the judgment of this house the moderation of
policy thus indipted on the part of her Majesty and that
of the Emperor of the French will best contribute to
diminish expeerliture, arred complications, and to pro-
mote comlnerin the interests of justice, and the establish-
ment of peaoe.
Lund J. RUSSELL said that, with respect to the
remarks of his hon. and pliant friend relative to the ques-
tion which he had last raised as to the military operations
in China, it would obviously be very unwise of the govern-
ment to state the exact instructions given to the naval and
military commanders sent from this country. The house
would also agree with him that it would be unwise to make
those instructions so extremely strict that efficers at a dis-
tance of 15,000 miles should find themselves bound by them
in any and all sdreounstances. (Hear, hear.) With his hoe.
and gallant friend, 'he hoped it would not be necessary for
oar troops to march to Pekin; but he thought the government
would be departing from their duty if they gave special in-
seructions that there should be no march on that city.
With regard to the terms of the negotiations, those should
not be settled on account of the circumstances which bad
lately occurred. Instructions had been drawn up for Lord •
Elgin in which the French government concurred gene-
rally ; but there wee some points upon which they wished
for farther explanations, and her Majesty's government
considered the better way would be that ford Elgin,
who was well acquainted with Baron Groot, with
whom he had acted on the former Chinon minion in
terms of the greatest cordiality, should go to Paris and
consult with M. Thouvenel and Baron Gros on those points
in respect of which explanations were required. One of the
questions to be settled was whether Lori Mi;in and Baron
Oros should have the supreme command of the naval and
military operations, and be invested with power to stop
those operations. It had seemed to be a right principle, bat
then it must be observed that the naval and military com-
manders might find themselves in such a position as that it
would be impossible for there to d.with moiety to the troops
and to the ships. (Hear, hear.) These were points which
had not yet been settled. As regarded the necessity
for a display of military force, seeing that 400 or 500 men
had been killed and wounded by an ambuscade. (No, no.)
He thought that the lives and property of Englishmen in
that country would not be safe if in some way or another
the Chineoi were not required to make reparation for that
insult (Hear. hear.) Some persons said the pease up
the river was without notice to the Chinese, but Mr. Bruce
showed that was not so, but that he had required to he
allowed to go up with the ship, and that he
should be received in an honourable manner. There
wss no positive refueal, but the commissioner at
Shanghai desired to *end first to Pekin, and
the tone he required for the purpose was unreasonably
lmg. When Mr. Bence had arrived at the Peiho he found
no Chinese authorities there, and the people were acting
without orders, and whether Mr. Bruce was acting rightly
or wrongly, he and Admiral Hops went up to the mouth of
the river without any notice that their peep would be
obstructed. That having be sod, and a great loss of life
and property having occurred, there must be some repine •
tient (Hear, hear.) The demands made were ex-1
meltingly moderate. The treaty had been concluded, and.,
only required to be ratified. The government also demanded I
that some apology should be made for the outrage
which had been committed. That being done, it
was proposed that the British minister should go up to
Pekin and obtain the ratification of the treaty. With
regard to the whole matter no one could regret it more than
himself. There was no question of boundary to be settled,
or other matter of that kind. All that they sought for was
trade with the Chingos, and in order that that might be
carried on the government required security for the lives
and property of their people. He could state that in late
years trade had elaseerly immersed at Shanghae and at
other Oboe*, wed that a lame member of person were en-
gaged in it, and of mum they were liable to disputes. It
wee therefore deahable that ear taakess elweeld have the