The Express.
London, England, 1859-04-13 00:00:00

THE BALLOT.

Mr. H. BERKELEY, in moving for leave to berg
In a bill to cars the votes of parliamentary electors of Great
Bekaa and Ireland to be taken by way of ballot, said that
he had no expeolatits that any argument world have
weight with the been, which was too hardened in its
main for say balsam to have effect upon it exert
the Marco hem ett-ef-doers. That influence, however
maid be biren. te bear upon them, and haler keg this
Edifordisserd In • voice of thunder and ma • right,
which they wow solicited as a boon. It Wild be oar.
that now, at the end of a parliamatt, such a motion
ss be wee submitting could have no particular *Sr, but It
met precisely became they wens approaching that greed
sedirosi saturnalia which took plea at every patrol ear
non, that he brought fared this meths. (Harr, hear.)
err J. V. SHELLEY, is setooding the motto*, com-
plained of the aura aka by Mr. Wyld is banging forward
this subject of the ballot on the night of the division on
the Governesses Reform Bill, which be considered unfair to
the hon. member for Bristol. and had therefore followed that
hon. member out of the house to avoid voting.
Mr. Secretary ESTCOURT would bring tinder the notice of
the home two points as to what they would lose. They would
lees mutual confidence, sad they would lose that which, in
the matter of voting for members of parliament, ought to
have great weight with every man, the influence of expe-
dites and character. Them two porta of lose would, be
enbaltted, more the mertartranos any gain that could
weft mein he. moret voting, even II it could be arrived at
mar re arida (User, hew.) The only Minna in
'Whir Maw el roes by ballot being premier it this
eetwile% was In the clubs. And why did it mow there?
Ereftwee dre efileetion to the candidate then turd on a
needier eel aversion, which hot no
fi It err quite tihrto do
with
ea pellanant, where lualifloatiou yea eveyerlyatin
Istarsleayeef tactute did the rms
the .:imolai:ion as formally on
BETHEZZo supported the bill, mined that
the mime woad a the right of being ambled to vote I
beefy, I beteg their duty to vote homely. The legineture
W seenht to cater on them that right, and enable them to
whoa that dety by many eoactmenta, all of which bad
rabortive. Alter reterring in detail to their unsuccess-
erdeavours to put down bribery and intimidates, the right
boa. and learned member contended that it had now become
incumbent upon the house te adopt the only means which
appeared practicable aid effectual for protecting the electors
by giving them the ballot. He ceratutted the übjeci Was that
bad beet urged so frequently serest secret voting, and M-
ural that it we. neither cowardly, degradiag, nor anon-
etitotionel.
Lord 3. RUSSELL contended that publicity was the
presiding principle throughout the judicial, the administra-
tive, and the political system of the country. He relined
the motion, but confeesed that some of the objections be
had once felt against the mechanical contrivance for
assent voting bad become considerahly modified. " I
threnody argued (motioned the sob 4 lord) that it
would have en injurious effect on the character of the English
people. On further referent Ido not believe that it would
have that iejurious effect. (Hear' bear.) I believe the
With eleneter is such, andtherele so much warmth
about elections, that every man will always
Ales his to become) so well known that every
re will bow which way he voter. I cannot concur in what
me rid by Mr. Sidney Smith in him pamphlet, that in order
emegol I* vele retry man will go to the wrong dente?,
the meow in Ind sing the wrong wing. (Hear,
bear,) I do net Mem that an man will go through
this proms. I do net Masa that a man on going
to the pill will teM of Sir Thomas being an
einEsat Ise
of support, and that he intends
to glee a pigmies Ise and then go to the poll, and give
a vote wan the yew pato of whom he was the. speak-
bp I de net ham tint the effect on English character
will be se peat se that. At the same time publicity In the
role of Eaglish otaity. (Hew, beer.) There are • certain
rare of reser among earns who may be allured by
being fold by their landlords to v to in a particuUr way
when they do not with to do so, and art la no doubt a great
Gmbh* I believe, however, that that hardship is much
hes than it awed to be, and that there deer not err now,
r my lameumble and learned friend the member for
Aylesbury says,,a art of feudal supremacy, ad that landlords
say to treats, Veto with me, or I will deprive you of your
feriae'," but I believe that in most cases the opitions of
landlords and Watts are the some, and therefore that they
vete together. No doubt there are hardship' on voters,
especially at every general election, but comparing this with
the advantages derived from publicity, I cannot but see hew
trek has been greed for freedom by the system of mat
ream forward boldly to support the principles th2a):::t
(Hear, hear.) Men in other times have been tin
and suffered for their principles in • way whisk
Is only to be compared to that which ems of
the subject/ of the King of Naples hem sollived.
In kW times con bare exposed Weemelves be Male far
high Mann fur avowing petaciplee lin lime whisk were
ti:Vst at the French Re volution sod ether dedrier.
aleilieve that freedom depends cm that deteriallea to
do wind men think right, whi,h was shown on lbw Mae,
end in those declarations of independence of maim. He
em except In voting, any principle bat of pulls's,
in we madapopeeee, m of our affairs ; but in that respect there re
this as sly and this departure from the (semi priedle
=tlt will have so great effect, perhaps, but still I
t will to • little extent weaken that self-assertion
which is the man feature of the Begliek rinse
rester. Look at Peewee. Is that senalley
' have had the ballot, and so far from its promoting Inedtmlbeg
would seem that secret mew has sear the rhea i
snd inclined to follow say (overarm@ of tin bdstrlill
each man's worth% his oplowas mendliVLee base be Ede
country. Them are the views oil* WNW we to maw
! this nairm. If at my ether time • wain of his kind is
carried I do not believe that ray =will rs
law from ft, hr I believe the is
clim=i: so mirk • balk, sod sm.= we so wE
that so rem arehmicol sex defeence ova pees
. *Magas to them ; tot I never head of any case la Mai
the ballot has damp geed, and I believe that the baboon el
evil le agnate It. (Hear, boor.)
Lea PALIIERSTON observed that Mr. Berkeley pee-
pearl pearl to sake • secret ; he speed wi
Lord J. Rowell that the="eSrand would not sub-
' mit te each Span, they area y and rebel agabat
mask • Ise. Whet, he asked, me to be the meaty far
divulging the secret ? Was It to be line or homecoming?
, It was toeing with parliament and the conairy to propose
are a law, which, whatever taschinmy might be em-
itlozied4wLitail tynocuzigmtattutl:notalzbood,
nocenuptigm,
m eon
i tell me that secret voting would be a remedy masa bribery,
(Heat, beer.) Samoa as election agent wire to go to s ma-
rline* and tell him the chances we, nearly tehmeed, that If
'curtain men permitted to vote fee kin he would be eiectea,
bat they would not vote makes IS airtala meditima, If
glees conditions were agreed en sod the asedldite retemed,
would It not be much more dialed& to detect bribmy with
street voting than when every MIS'S vete was knows sod
the hilmacce to which ha was sabre:tea P I canoed this