The Express.
London, England, 1860-08-07 00:00:00

.11U:ill )N.CrADULUIY.

Mr. BRAI)Y, ua via' into committee el supply, to
submit w lietims co this s..l,lert.

Till: ATLANTIC COMPANY.
Mr. N. BAKKELEY a.kol the I luurcelko• of the
etv mar whether, in eouserptco...-. .4 the failure .A the
Attaut: • Telegraph Company in their attempt to lay down
a Wan .• on, 11114. 1.. Alni..fl• a, the sogyrroorot ,nter..l into
between Cowin and tier Zlajooty'a gto•o•oinent had not
le remit void o and whether the o.invootottletit wind.' I, pre.
pored to entertain apfolicuraus from other putties willing to
tooliettak., the canoe troterpeiee, euhjett. to the ettetlitiout set
fortia is the Report of the ?whet. Committee us Pocket and
TAetcropitie ttuutraets, whkis bare Leetlikeeently affirmed
h. the house.
The I'iIANCELIAMt of the ECCIIEQUICIL—With re-
f crier to the fine! pertim. .1 the 1 hue. to ',mono,
that 1 ant not aware .1 tho coottrul having lievidile vii..ll in
p on. • f law, Ind it is ine, endive, and perhaps may he ri-
ft•
rilsol a. void f.r.11
.1.114,tii'41 purport.. As to. the latter
port of the question, I inu.t oleent that there was nothing
that... Art in tote agreerrept with the Atlantic
T01...0.mph Company. It woald Immo levy quite competent
tm• zooveriatutnt to enter at., an 111. t with ottoy
otoorls•ly in relation to the same an .jeer natter. even
if that meat had tido n effest. Ai to entertaining
other unpin:shuns, I must my that I have had no tosson to
suppose. from any onnith•tioication+ flint loss.. been received
the Iressury, that any • •ther porti• V..•stdwilling to
e star into nn agm'meet so! a note., similar to that node
with tio, .%tlantie Telegrupio Company-. that is to say, an
a_,ossouseat eostiaawnt on tla• io•taal anal efficiency of
the line. As to whether th.• government are prepared to
•• aertain application.. I could no. say that they are
.t, bat at ti.,. ..,one. time tl.•• caution ..f priv.ab !tilting bin
it. for thn srvertoment almt, anti undoubtedly in that
branch of enterprise which related to .I..e.e•ea telorrapits,
and i'.•• very limited sue, .• that has attests:est them, it
mirtasely world behove theoverionent to reeks, oAteh
p!satioto with •
cmltetio.g anal not to march 4. than till
after n-ittus delits•ration.

Tlll:.lElt.*Ey comNIMION.
In savor to Mr. HAMELN
r.:l, I:. I'. IX% hi Mattel that the report of this commie.
r' shortly he Lel oe the table. The appendix
e:11.1 le• mile in aloint In
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1 IG N *TICE

In strew In Air J. Ann.t kV.
Mr. COWria atatiti that WI the site for inn new Fo.
yvigle-..fike WOO 110 t yet in the
it wool.' ent be eeereesey to, geji for • i.e• in the prawn'
Neat veer • env. e•eila In. for the com•
Cl die handing. ,ad n..1:41 afford bon.
membe' the eprettnete mien: •ineAtime they
rishrsi ulfteut the dale a Ch.' Tr.. plans luol hewn
nhilit..l +t the dome of many mem, er...1 the house.
SWUM IMMO FIMHERIFA,

le &smite. to Mr. CURD,

The 1.4 )ItlD-ADVOCATIE said that It ti !ha intent. of
16• `ay.•naamt to aryotnt a .-wan•isshis on this subject.

A Dll•EI, K:1 I)F.R

Mr. 4• I:grriTti silted the Secartary of &Ate for Fo-
✓ whether he IrAl nn Tv, nffiryl in
r• • A ti • i...t Atrl•el li.vlr, Lc hi.. octire awl courageous
.1 >4 ISM. wrioltrr, will to N. ...Nora
t• • • • of the I lir:Attn.:a .uttA of Intintn•eint, who
it .11.! %yr .rt. L 111.1110.40.11, L ttr !..•o• ; if
▪ • IN t it WO•1410t4 z-nero3.4.Aski &ulna policy on the

part of this oountey that we should make some public ac-
knowledgment of such services. as an example and "noon-
n t to the canes ci humanity in those countries.
=l.l. RUSSELL mid that the only official communi-
cation of the kind which he had received was a statement in
a despatch that email hundreds of Christina' had been
issued and sheltered by hbd-el-Kafisr- He alight cam-
piain of the abase of the privilege dMing questions.
(Hear, hear.) He had fast received a greet Mainr of des.
patellae ; be bad to consider their contents; and before
arything was done upon them ho bad to mason his col-
leagues, and finally lay their advice before bar lialesti. If
hoe. gentlemen came down to the house and asked ques-
tions almost before deimatchee were opened, it was not
posable, however the goverment light wish to satisfy
them, to give definite amnia. (Hear, bear.)

PRIN7'IIIO Or BIBLES. /se.

In answer to Mr. CLaroaD,

Mr. LUNG said that is oases where dbawhick was
allowed on paper used for the printing of Mime and other
works, the security taken was that an earls °Mom satisfied
himself that the paper was so used. The import duty on
foreign books and pamphlets was 30e. a cwt, except when
imported (rum those canneries with which we had treaties
for an international copyright—in that case it was only 15e.
a cwt.

ference to the treaty. The effect of his resolutions on the
revenue would be but email, neither would it greatly in-
fluence the pose of the article. On this subject the gross-
est exaggeration prevailed abroad. The purchaser and con-
sumer of paper would have the advantage, common to all
others, of reducing the pressure upon the home market
by resorting to foreign supplies. But the question in-
volved high consideration® of policy, not only as regarded
the honourable engagements of the treaty, but yet
niore, whether those great }principles of free-trade were or
were not to be adopted to their full extent by the present
House of Commons. Adverting in the first instance to the
French treaty, he avowed his surprise at the opinions he
had heard expressed, that the treaty did not bind us to
reduce the customs duty on paper to the level of the excise.
He showed from the terms of the treaty that it was per-
facile clear on that point, and that no power was left them
to place a protective duty on any article whatever imported
from France. The same thing was proved by the official
correspondence on the subject, Ile contended that the
house, in adopting the principles of the treaty, had
so done with its eyes open, after due considera-
tion, and with full cognisance of its meaning. It had
been said that the reduction of the duty on per was
contingent on the removal of the prohibition of the expor-
tation of rags from France. This he denied, observing that 1
the French government had endeavoured to induce their
legislature to remove the prohibition, but the protectionists
had proved too strong for them. Let not the house, by its
example, show an approval of that proceeding. The pier
Lion of rag exportation was in itself moat ineignificant.
Rags were dear in France, and we could not under any
circumstances export from thence a large supply. The
French government had throughout acted with the most 1
extreme liberality, ; they had long ago offered to give up
the article of coed, and now they offered not to press for
the immediate execution of the seventh article as regarded
the duty on paper. That handsome offer, as in the former
case of coal, her Majesty's government bad declined, '
trusting in the principles of theirown policy. If, indeed,
they had done any wrong by their prop sal to British pro-
ducers, they might, inconvenient as it would be, accept
the boon of the French government. But when the
proposal was one of strict justice to the other dames of
the community, when it tended to remove the state of
paralysis in which the trade remained at this mo-
ment, however they might acknowledge the release
offered them, they could not accept it Let them
not prolong the suspense in which the paper-makers
would lie if thee postponed the settlement of the question.
The exaggerated notions of the inipertanee of the proposed
elanges which were bewildering the minds of the paper-
niakens were producing a stagnation ruinous to trade, and
it would be a simple act of humanity to remove it. Free-
dim of cemmerce hail, at the commencement of the session,
received the adhesion of many must inveterate pro-
tactienists, and yet, however widely admitted in the
general principle, it was always opposed in its par-
er application. So it was that the paper-
makers entertained in the present instance such un-
founded atiprebensioos. The paper-maker hail re-
ceived the full benefit of free-trade in obtaining without
tat' all the aimmodities he usel, either in hie trade or out
of it. What right had he to dement exception from the
geaeml rule! He complained without any mien that he
was held.. to special burbles-se complaint made in emcees
mien by all classes when their protection was taken away.
ne apecial burden if the paper-makers was the prohibition
ef the expert of rase from abroad. Their ease was most
rediselly naerepreeented. We had an ample supply of rags
in this country. The material at home was in-
cr./wing in quantity and lessening in price. The
whole cry was a delusion and an error. The right
honourable geutlemen continued , The proposition
I make is aimply to this effect : —We are not an importing
country ; we export at this moment in leper more thin we
impost in rage. Our importation in rags is about 12,001)
lona that is to say, after deiliirting the quantity we export
beck we import about 12,0110 tons of rags a year. We im-
port 12,000 toes of rags, which make about 9,000 tons of
paper, but we export 12,000 or 14,000 tons of paper, so that
we setaally send out a great deal more rap in the form of
paper than we import. (Hear, bier.) Not much more
than half of all the paper we make is merle of rage at all,
and yet because nearly half is made of rags, and
there is a duty on it abroad, my hon. friend the merino?
for Hertfordshire insists that we should tax all paper what-
ever it may be maile of. The position in which we stand
ie respect to rags is this : Ruin from the
French paper-maker is what is apprehended. The Preach
paper-maker is to come iu like a flood, and he will shut up
MI the mills in Ireland, the owners of which presented
the affecting petitiou we heard read tiertight.
We have an opportunity of bringing this miserable fallacy
to this test - Ne hat becomes of our expected paper ! Lithe
first place, it is singuliw enough that the papm. we expert is
that very description of paper which is made frees the fine
rap imp irtod from &brad (Hair' hear.) It is not the
CUOMO paper nor the straw paper, but the fine paper made
from these flue rigs that we export. }LOW come+ it that
we expert it ? DO,ll it ray ! I presume it hies pay Of else
we sheald not continue the trade. Where dove it go ? I
will tell you where some of it goes. Otte if the principal
to which it goes is the United States of America, Ind
fillecil7pliee that Frenchmen are likewise free to scud
their paper to the Coitssd States. According to my hon.
friend the member for Hertionlehire our taper makers are
to be ruined if thew resolutions are :yielded. Now is it
i not a most extraordinary thing that if, immediately our
I duties are brought to an equality with thine it the French-
I man, lee is to rush in sail to flood us with his papisr, we
should I. . elite to seed paper away now and meet him in the
open market? (Hear, and cheers) (ea exporter generally
pays the duty in advance, and laving done .. he moat lay
net of his money meta he gets it returned from ahead, and
he has also notices and daisy. to meet, and forms to comply
with, so that her heavily burdened iiii exporting, sod yet,
marvelloua ea it seems, notwithetaniiing the terrors the
Frenchman now braadishee in his eyes, he is able to p to
Ameries and sell his paper at a pried in the teeth a every
competitor. (Hear, hear.) But there is yet one pilot
more to bring the representatiou to its climax, and it is
this : Strange as it must sound, after all ths misrepresen•
tations which have been dinned int., one ears fur Nome
menthe, England at this moment ands more paper goods
into the .tmerican market than Franeo. Last year, while
Fran,:., extolled 174,0010 dolhirs worth into Amorkii, we
exerted 1:10,000 dollars worth of the Sable good*. (Neer,
hear.) lam aslutined to occupy se much of the time 4 the
committee, but for two or three minutes before 1 nit down
I meet call attention to a very peculiar point iu the ewe..
While the papermakeri demand from you compensution
for the unequal lepiluticni of foreign ...entries, there
are other .'lasses who appear before you as petitioners
with demands of a character very didereut, and 1 think
much mere renesiuslde. The principle of British legisla-
tion fir the last 20yeare has been to decline to take notice
of foreign legielatian ; bat it has also lawn to give to British
subjects, so far aa it depends ureic us, the benefit of per-
fectly just and equal laws. Now let we eall your attention
foe a moment to the position of those getalenten—a clam of
great enterprise and merit, who are engaged in supplying
the people with publications net of a law order, but yet eta
low Price, which are it:deed...l to be sustained i/ extensive
circulation. Let a man enaeavouz to cetablish is under-
laid/4ot this charerter. end to brmg out f. ir the whantsge
of the people an eslaien like that I hold in my hand—an
animated edition of the the S,..iiptaree. ~,,,,,y ete,,,peati.
cation needing an eaten eve sale—it is not tie. much to ray
that it would lie hard on that man to be compelled to par.
chase his paper in a PrOtlY,Lell 11111.fitat at an exorletant price.
Bed this is ant all. The Messrs. Cassell, whose petition II de
been preeented toslay, purehaasl paper for an annotated
and illustrated Bible they are now engird in bringing out.
They need putehase their paper in the British earket, or else
pay Ma ild. par cwt. on paper imported, say trim I lermany.
The cenesaience is that, however de ir the stritish market is,
they canna afford to ge to fierniany, miler. tiler are pre-
wed hi pay this tax of Ms. 4.1. per cw:. Now, let me ask
it what pesition Mews. Cassell .-tend in reepret to the
article they manufacture—that is to say the publi-
cation. they bring net, the paper being the raw ma-
terial awl the finished lamb the manufactured article?
If they hay piper from abroad they must pay upset it a duty
if Vs: 401. r.., cwt., bet a einiperaig article ',noted in Ger-
many, wliiil I now bold in toy hand. is introduced to
d.rive Mean. Colwell oat of the =rind at a duty of 1.5.