The Express.
London, England, 1856-06-28 00:00:00

DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED

STATES.

Mr. MOORE sai t he was not satisfied with the answer of
the noble lord on the wanks of Anerice. The Imes was
bound to preseason au opiates es this gelation, sell It the
Loose would alley his to de so, he wield Wing the gut-
tine forwud eben he had the opportunity.
TEE APPELLATE JURISDICTION OF TEE
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______HOUSE OF LORDS.

Lftd J. RUSSELL. neutral/ t the suitesent of Lord
Penierstos cm %nig bail, said he thought it weld be a very
',Hoes evil if • bill of this hied wen deferred to. late
Car
in the year. It would beematter of nowise to the
heaps if they were oat to give such aWI fall coesideratkna.
His 'obis fried said that the present 'wain et the ap-
pellaterisdiction of the House of Lords was not satiates-
tory. 11. thoug'a [bet la the Ant plus itwerseteat should
show why it was that a jatiedistios which had bees waling
esereietid by tie Haan of Lords. sad witch ba bees
yeekelly 'needed try rat Meath had all at owes beams
essatlifartery. Ho Ilona la the east OM they should
Oita why It was haffeeeha NY puma bill which hatted and
restricted oar, of the east Isaposteut pttr tgatives of the
slows, Lamely, that of the ereatiea ef 1141119. H. thought
is the %MA Own that this was a bill which if pawed lota a
law would d..ply offset the Independeeete of the lasisli-
tete. He wi-eod therefore that the goverewest would net
deity the bill, bet that the hoes' should have ample time
Li 0i• C4siiClS before they eves 11101111111illd ntheprie.ipi.of
the meassr..

Yr. 11iLiNS, without uprooting sa °Mins on the un,
othitsd to .to prose is the toes, the artionity tt dots. smo-
othy • ith r.oard to the appellate jorlediatioo. At mar L
*sing to Lord 8t Lessor& beliefs, to oit,Lord Loodborst's
prat rd.', rad Lord Bras/lien's Slam, the Lord Ottsocollc r
it'd to tit slow• as at peak

THZ NATIONAL GALLERY.
On the nation kw temp tote cumin's el apply,
Lord ELCHO, mromast to setae* rose to now* that so
humble addr. se be pessested to her Majesty, playa, her
y to be unused y pleased to bone • repel commotion
tedeonaime the Me a the new National Gallery, sad to
rend es the deeirthkeese et esooliaita with It the Ise sot
eta iniegint aelleetisee M lb* Brit,sh Masa., is
11011101•1011.16 lbe asawmale•dellemet the whet sensaittee
Si Ile Nediesal Gamy lb Geseliese of this Wad did
M eameally melee seek laietall es Malin, bst the sob.
joss ea remit .attuned • overilerable degree of interest
esil Iseartavee, as am Ns re Nish the lime
twit sow *slid Espied wheditat Nee NNW of a low
east a lama eboaM be readiedpelleable et s• ii Ti. hooey was swage Nee taco was a bill before
peoliewest, wash is loan be authorise the re-
novel of the eke of the N Gallery to Herlogion-
gore ; Obit bill would have weed a mesd reefing lose
Vine Mee had it sot bees ke the weteaslons sag pine.
venoms a a few boa. members who objervid be tbe eke ,
pr p Bed, but he essfeseed, apes the qualm of the re-
'Bova of the she he meat prossot mortared a rive • vote
attic r ON well or the ether, sad It weeibeeeeso he Wright
the native, inquired farther fausstirition that he had vec-
tored t, give cam of the motes min he bad now pro-
posed to the how. That notion divided itself tato too
parte ; the Isis eonsidentlon was, whether a /royal conk
maim should be Mood to gamine into the natter of
Um site, sad the mond, whether it was re-
qui .ite to istisire tato tke espivileaey of eon-
b,eivit the banana Gallery with the Rae arts
sad orate logioal collectives. With Nkomo, to the gee..
boas of tee site, it app. and to bs a simple oat. Were they
repsred at thepresest neatest to vow *idlest farther in-
quiry that the National Gallery should bs removed from
Trateligarcqs.re to Keatisitea-Gore ? He self mad he fee
One was rot, and one reason why he aged delay was the
great biomes of opinion Mash recant upon tke point.
bah In and est of the bone. The argunteats which he had
beard is private &genet own action would ao data be
adopted and aged by the Chancellor oldie Hielegaer, and
he proptsed t, meet these or/meats by aatie'patioa. Is
the Sr.' plea, them, he wee told that porlimest was
pledged to to
sew site by the vote of 150,00 W , which it
had scrota to for the parches. of the ground, whits others
argued that inuesseb as the tallest had been istreetigited
by eoemesittees and nassiselosers withat end, there was no
meeessity for further isquiry ; a third argosest was that
• e ,tateittite of the hoses bad already steepted the
ate by s forma resolution, sad be 'monad to deal with
nob of these throe chi alas. With regard to the ergs.
mat thot primmest was committed to the eghjeet, he hod
aerofoil, looked through the disengage which hod aka
place upon it, and be atifeend he could candies:oar that
perlistant use in any way committed. Os the oentary,
Mies Idr Disraeli brought forward the vote for portholes
the ground, t. lots Kr. Home tosk an olj eel's to the
/swivel or the N.tior a' Gagoty, hie objescion bows founded
es trie esotrol ptstios whit& the gallery sow reempled, sad •
wholly distinct ken the 'sangria wheelie %Veit the ate
'abroad. Yr. Hone, like hiacrolf, gave hie cordial sap-
port to the Ind estrial scheme as proposed by the r cola-
mtmittooes of 1831. elth Nth he °Neat**, to the removal of
the Manual Oullery ; but the el jmion was not tot.amid to
thit late Kr. Hose, es the hon. number for Wasiak-
shire raised hie vela Mlle Si it, whin. la 1814
the hipoorable senaber he Poole (Mr. Dab, !.yam?),
who were the attached to the government, site I retested
„taut the proposed removal, men the theretarj to the
er aim
admitted that the sett bean • ham
!Ton thighs,* of • evabliaoatioa two, mkt la too way
pledged istUanant si 10 soy "fides apes the goalies of

fife. Therefore it wai quite clear that din were in ere
' way oeunitted or pledged upon the mitten (Hear, hear.)
The sees ohjectioa them was that the subject bad already
' heels fulminated by committees and rateenusioners.
Well, beinwsdieit_ittedi.
6tch.s.thtettefeurenlidadoibergthamminaniatteher
of n-
e. two
sommisonempee it, ',pointed by the Treasury, and fire
committees of the bane. The first eounissios was op-
' rotated le 1830, the object of which was to impure into the
stets of th- tonne., and that a iamb-ten recommended that
• is qualm of the injsries they sestalsed from dint and
• dirt the pictures should be covered with glass. In
1861 • emmieelon was appointed to welder the
site of the Nation! Gallery, end they reported In favour
of two new site, one I. Keselegtom-gardens, at the end of
the broad walk, near to baluster; and the other In what
was called the Paddock, ie the aura locality. So much,
thee, for the Moors of the isommissiosen; and now for the
committee.. He found that the first commiuee was ap-
pointed in 1888, but the only point brought before that
committee was the (natio° of elennisg, and therefore they
might safely pen on to the nest, which eat in 1841. That
committee d d not touch upon the ete of the National
Gallery, but merely isgeired into the Dumber of peruse
who visited it is c Jos with the other public cad In.
isstitivion. of the metropollr. In 1850, however, • rote-
mitre we. unlined to legate into the subject, with power
to toast gets the qoatioe of sits ; hut althoughthat con
selves did not ausider the existing are
.f ble to the
preservation of the picture., it yet declaimed to make any
recommendstioa is the matter, as it wes In perfect
igsorsoce of the new rite which the authorities wished to
propose. This was in IWO, bet be bad got eßiltle too far
In Wean e f his nerrative, for in 1818 and 184, teen were
two sommitnes appointed to inquire isto the same subject.
The late Sir K ibert Peel we on both committees, and no
doubt the question of site was duly considered by them ;
hut nevertheless the conclusion they tame ro was that the
Nottual (lottery ought not to be if mooed from its present
erection. He ease sow to the last committee, whisk wag
&notated 18 1863, and whin wee app ivied to Inquire into
the stets of the pictures, the mansgenent if ebe Notional
Gallery. end the exoediency of making any orange either in
its regulations or Its site. Now he was quite ready to admit
that this committee ems to the re Glutton that it ens de
eirable to accept the site which Kensington Gore offered ;
but while he made that Urania' he should couple it with
this obeenstion, that the committee had no other alters*.
tin before them, or they might ben hesitated about
giving that reentomendati on. At it we, the rent noon was
only carried by • majority of en.; it was a moiosiry of
ales ogeiset five. The hosoursble member for the trona-
eity of Dahlia, who it should be numbered wig the 134-
entsey to the Tracery et the period the vote was etrend
for purchasing the proved, Ind the late Sir W. Molesworth
who we. then President of the Board of Works, voted in
the misceity ; while it wee equally eine, from his own draft
report, that had there bees amy neceseity for • caning
voe, Colonel Mute, the eliairmte of the committee, would
hen voted the same way. These, then, were the results pro-
moted by the commission and eommlttees which tied in
mitigated the subji et, aid he hued upon looking over the
p p-re end douses's hearing urn the inquirin, that there
had been use lea than thirteen sites turreted as available
for the existing N clout Gallery. (Hear, bear) Pawing
to the second truck of the mottos, be had now to
wane whether it was desirable to combine the Na-
tional Gallen with the fine arts sad archaeological
cautions. That question bad frequently been brought
trader the eturatioa of parliament; bet more mostly
by the noble• lord toe member for Strand, when he
moved the vote for the British Manus. (Sir Jams
Graham, No, no," the menhir foe the City of Landon.)
He hogged pardon, he menet the noble lord the member
f the City of Linden, not the member for Stroud—(a
lesgb)—hat he was afraid Painting and the Fine Arts,
nod Areas logy 'meld not be combined. The British Mu-
seum, with the nee ptioa of the Library, was barely cum-
, cost to sees mandate the nitration already 'cumulated.
The loatituUoo commenced wl h the package of Sir Rene
Slosse's collecting, and it had eines gone on Increasing In
every department yeti' it had become a complete Noeh's
Ark. mad he was afraid that the huddle, could not be OD al-
tered or ree4ered sufficiently eiternsive as to admit of the
National Gallery being combined with it. Thst also was
Mr. Newton's opinion, a gentleman well versed is the
matter, and thoroughly competent to give ea opi-
nion upon the suhjeet, while the Neil of Elles-
mere, then whom no one wee more devoted to art
And seam, hat &diked him that the beet mode
of proandinir in order to arrive at a safe cuelesion was
to have another sosingiation of inquiry, but this time a
royal sommissios, and not a Treasury goueteelos. (Hear,
hoer) It a en/red to him, however, that the National
Gallery would have to remain distinct and up trate from
the other institutions of the metrouth, and that the beet
site for It would be Emengton Palace. The redoes of
the palace were now thoroughly public; in the time of
William and the early Georges they were "lead to the
habit's:wept on Satardays, but grads .lly they had bet me
perfectly free to the public, and now there was little or no
proepeet ef either the pence or the grounds ever again
hong required few the use of the eeversign. Another one
of dealing with the difficulty which had been suggeited
was this—to apron-late Barliaroe House to the Prince of
Wales, In order to be in a situation to pall down Mathes
roma Hone, which would give a frontage of 1.100 feet,
aid enable the state to bald • new Nation.) Quality
in the mast central p video, end also to greet sew assembly
roosts for the Sovereign, which it was admitted on ell
hands were very mesh required, is ettesezios with St.
lamee's Pelee.. (Hoer, hear.) Zither of those
Maus would be en amens mu, bet It would be
an oreenteat to the metro; oUs ; but the Komengtoo.
gore plea would be Deland economical nor ores-
mestsl. He would, however, stow the house how they
might settle the latter io an emir main! . If they
sent tae botanical collection at the British Menus to Kew,
where it ought to be; the gook red collection to the Zoete-
ghat Garden, where It ought to be; the mineral., geolo-
gical Trainees and (mils to Darlington Gardens,
shins they would be near the I d mileties
and the Geological Ilinessem In Janne-street —lf
they did, that they would have ample room in the Mueesui
for ell the pictures end works of art that the weary was
ever likely to poise... (Hear.) But they might also In
quire whether it would be desirable to remove the historical
cutlery from Trafalgar metro after all? (Hear, hear.)
They bad beard a good deal about the way In whin th-
pictures were suffering; but they were sot Gas whit
worse of eine theme In the neighbouring trivet& collections.
Th. c 'lnaba ass Noethumberlend House was close by, and
thine of Lord Mesmer', Lord Warminster, the late Mr.
Rogers, Mr. Hope, and msny others, were In the vicinity.
He believed that If proper ears were taken of the picture.—
If the rooms were pronely ventilated and famished with
' double doer—s plan, by the way, which bed only jest been
adopted, and when he was net at the gallery he found both
dun carefully tied open—(a laugh)—if those pi-t-
-enths. were taken he did not think the works of art would
suffer. It metres that when he thought then was a thane
' of 'feedlot the some embinstise In Ludo% as imbue tin
Pub, St. Patent's es, Beeln,Naples, and Nonage. beyond
for the removal of the pictures; but if that eject west, be
given up, he should be temp- ed to keep the gallery where It
was. (tibias.) Betides, they Ind se idea what the Ist n-
ein. of the government were with regard to the burnt
bendier. (Hese, hear) It was tree that there wag • bill
eni the parer foe the convenient of the elts Into one for an
otel; but he should he sorry hand to see so fine a rite
given up for say private peep tee whatever. ((Chen )
' Lean, if tee Royal Andean was to be permanently lodrd
• at the patens expense, it would be natter well worth their
ansideration whether they ought sot to look into the
• shorten of the torporetlou and began how far it hod
answered the objects for which it we. designed ? (Cheers )
He tented that he had ahnwn eau cbnt%%% why there
• should be tome father bushy, and why they should
passe until they had the bantling of the govern.
meet before them. He trusted, too, that when
they resolved upon having a new buddies', they would
nate a public conipetition, not swum English arebiteeta
wily, bet one open to foreigners (Hoer, hear) He desired
to avoid the mistakes they bed already onninitted-•-mktaktil
like the Mtn of the Duke of Wellington, placed In • par-
tial in the like of which me states ever before head Well—
mistakes like the frost of Bnakingheing Pause which
needed repairs almost before It wee emp'eted, which Sae,
required to be painted, and which new looked se If It had
been mode of *teen—mistakes like the Natant Gallery,
the feestaine in Trefelgurausre, and may others, which
made foreigners monied* 'bat the arts meld not Inn&
seder free Inetiteolose. (Cheers.) A soustry, however,
which had predated • Roynolds and a Wren, end which
Gerald b-set of Whitehall, Greenwich, sad Sr. Paul's
Cathedral, meld not be totally devoid of teen; sod, aera-
tor*, It wee that he wished them to avoid haste and to ro-
coed with dee dediberatio• and minima. (Cheers.)The
Dobbs lord soseleded by moving the resolution.
Mr. MILNES congratulated the noble lewd too, his
rowers of imegisatios ; bet it wee • fatal OF yin to all the
plena he hid proposed as alteration, that they wars all
naprectlable.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought the
noble lard hod due geed entice by laying before the how
the ample and steer ingradtioo he bad mask es this 'object.
(Hear, bawl Sobstaatiaily then were two Twang,e ote
which they were called upon to decide; and, ant with re-
gard to the removal or non-rectoral of the N.ticeal Gallery,
he (the right hoe. baronet) was williog to admit that the
hoese wee not precluded from sosing to any death,* by any
previous decision. (Hoer, bear.) Oe the other head, he
man entieled to ray tent, from tie tine they unhand o.lf
the estate at Eassiegton-gore—a per:line originated by
the right hos gestlamen opposite (Mr. Dierseli)—and from
the time that purehen was followed up by a ea tramiseet
roust from the holm to buy the rest of the land, the site
hod bees in eutemplation fir the Nation! Gallery. (Hen,
hear.) It seemed to him that the sunniest. la favour of
the removal of the pictures from Trealger-tquaro trues-
d 4 over any that could be urged for their maiden
when they were. It wee true there had bees different in-
quiries, but ft meet be horns in mind that the Iset, In 1843.
of which Colonel Mere was the elrairman, was the most
eyetenatie and complete. That committee awe to a distinct
Moisten' in (alone of removing the gallery. (Heir.)
The only meaher of the committee who aped apaiset it wee
11011Dif Wall ; the aye. were 10, PM WOOS oily 1.
N. thug could be more distioet thin the espreseioe of
*pions by thet quash.n finer of the rennet of
tite sai-
ler! fromTrefe/ger (Hoer) The rouse. of rub
littera wets quite satisfactory ; and it was borne out by the
are •t p.epoaderesing testimony of erarporemt w.teesses_
That point defined, the sett quirloe (sad which wee she shier diMeelty of the ease) was whether the plan ermined •be the IrVOT•111,111--samely, to select Essen Ice gm—
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nilliht•ii by tb• atobb lord—and they..old not somaigais