The Express.
London, England, 1860-11-14 00:00:00

NOVEMBER l4, 1860.

Ideated, to darer to the Liter the draft el a mematim es
elguatanw at wile Lied nein promind in /We sailer de-
spatch if the Other hiseina, to sail c the ocenmeaderade-
oldie to dead free& feeds.* inanities,.
The substance or this ocesvatka bed been made My
known to tip toomidoiNs so eery so the Ord bliss** sad
• draft of the wheLitnefeentlese, with the eweeptioe of one
article, was non-odefelly handed to Havgki en the even*
of the 6th instant ; and ft was then dirtinatly understand,
after be had read it Dies, then the poolisolooty bgioniow
with the.ambeinadoe should take place on the 7th, and the
be signed on the filla Instant. The single article
111, ae we them told Bangici, ooncersed the troops-
liteastribution of which, in the south, was not yet &boo.
Meth decided; but we repeated, what he already knew, that
lip moment the owe million teak, stipulated for in the coo.
Imollos, was paid, the faros would be withdrawn from
IlloiAda. Tie se** as it now stands, was of coarse
ailiiedte Ike dssA eilsielly handed to him last evening.
The weedlike' effecting the movementa of the troops,
however, seemed comparatively of little inteieet. Hb
grand difliculty, to all appearance, was the payment of the
money ilemaeded. He had suggested some verbal changes
and eminions in the despatch already in his bands, but no-
Wag that would net have admitted of modification, witbost
eompromleing any principle.
When now reeding over the preamble, however, he was
reminded that, before signature, the pewees of the plenipo-
tentiaries would have to be produced—that is to say, on the
Ohloomo, liiibemoodg isomok ilooohimmiga.

or ter the nature of the ae requiring the appointment of
imperial oonunisiosers, and defining their authority to deal
with such case. lie did not seem much disturbed by this sr
mark, hat presently, on coming.° the article which provides for
the immediate operativeness of the convention, " without the
L formelity of a ratillestion," he mid that these words could
not M inserted by any Chinese in a treaty, and that in fact
without Ord receiving the approval of the Emperor the
orearniesionemoould not sign the convention at all.

This induced ns to remark that the two commissioners,
INVNang and Hang-Fult, have ear sl them in their titles
the words " pien-i-hing-u," implying power to act as the oc-
casion shell demand, and we went on to inquire what words
describing the question they were charged to dispose of had
accompanied such other words as invested them with the
piers-i-hing-as powers, in the imperial decree which we never
doubted they had received.
liangki thus said that they bad not received any other
rase than that already communicated to Lord Elgin
In Hang•Fuh's and Hangld's darer, without date of the
day (received 25th instant), sad of this Teung-fan, the man- ,
Err* of the Salt " Gebel*" who, partly as bast and
partly in satidastion of Chinese usage. was assisting at our ,
oimilerence, went to procure a oopy. He returned presently '
with *which ►e subsequently admitted had been lob
from ',skin Grate, which he also produced. The da=
is identhelly the same with that recited le the
despair It does not state what the comorsionses *in '
boom or dispose of, nor does it stet. that they are iambi
with pissi-bingr powers. It makes no allusion even to
foreign 'Maim
~ We sontinusil to prams llangki regarding this decree,
irmlnieressded that, we in lam, the Emperor bad rued
one bilaratcry of the mature of Kweilires mission, and
his alacrity to deal with us. Hangki suggested that
trim must have got his orders at his but audience of
SO limperor, and that such a decree as we spoke of might
gra* be in the pommies at Hang•Fah, who was at his
owe names, but r Tnerhan continued to pass back
sad forierd between Hassid end Kweiliang, it was deemed
advisable roes* an interview with the later. This
after abbe daisy wee acceded to. K weaker informed us
pclia that he miry eseirsly indispose& Its looked so, and
a the ore time rather to exaggerate his in-
firmity. it seemed at the same time fully conscious, as
did two mandarins, that there was something
arrow 4
It to kins, that our commission had been
aim* Weeder with Hangki, with a view to putting the
converse, the terms of which he was already aware, into
dap% aid that one of the first point. to which we had

. .
Jeturatly come wee the exhibition of the powers referred
lo in the preamble, which wild have to precede the egg.
Wetii all the °wrestles limit ; that understanding from
that there was ao decree as the subject, except
that ens of the 24th ultimo, we bad damned it ed.
, visible is hear this from his Excellency Kweiliangh owe
lima. we thought it useless to proceed with the further
1 comideration of the draft we had brought until we had In.
formed Lord Elgin of the fact. Kweiliang, as Teunglien
had done previonely, fell beck wpm his first interview with
Lord Elgin, in 1•58. He said he had then produced •
deems which was rejected as insafficient because he was
not furnished with • kwaslang, and that he had
now brought a kwan.fang without • special dares.
He was rendaded that the former decree was objected to
as being in itself incomplete, even had he pioneered a kwaii-
, hag. bat that that decree did at least declare that be we
aimed with the plenipotentiary powers he assumed in its
title. wed he was apia urged to may when, or by what de-
amp be was sow invested with the name title, to his em-
ployment of which alune was to be attributed Lord Elgin's
weeptasee of him se • minister qualified to treat of the
matter in band.
1 Kwelliang eadeavoured to impress upon us that he was
sure so be regarded at Pekin as possessing the eery
powers, as in Lora Elgin's letters to him, which be lad
forwarded to the capital, be had always been addressed by
Lard Maio as plenipoteutiary minister. After some biot-
ite about the bush, however, he admitted that he had so
decree saw the one before us, but would immediately write
to Pubis fee the powers required.
Wethee lea ear leave. _

Minus WAD;
Hamar a PAM,.
Joint Chinese Secretaries.

anaemia No. 2, fa the Eorl c Plain's despatch of the Bth
et September, 1860.)

The undenigned, Earl of Elgin, ke., has the honour to
acknowledge the note of their Excellencies the Imperial
Oeminkskinen, prepceing an interview with him this day.
The slideselimed bag since received the report of his see=
torten Mr. Weds rd Yr. Parkes, who were yesterday seal
to deliver officially to the AssistantrCommissioser Maned,
the draft of the convention which, as stated by the under-
signed in his despatch of the 29th August, it was nesesoary
sloadd be awed before he could apply to the commandoes-
braid be drat hem offensive operations.
hidepesideerly of the pi= language used in the under-
, sigineffs despidele shove referred to, the nature of the start-
Mime to be entered into by this convention having bees
oestmerdeated in various conversations dating so far back as
the dud instant, and a draft of almost the whole cenventice
placid he their lands ce the Ebb instant, it is with no little
gone= dal the =deadwood ham learnt that their Rama-
lea= doh= that they have no authority to elan the ma-
reeks= eatil It shall halm been submitted to his Majesty
the Emperor, and that they are unable to produce any de-
r eres investing them with the powers implied by certain
words forming pert of their official titles, and their ea-
sumption of which alone induced the undersigned to tepid
their Excellencies as competent to the negotiations
which their despatches of the 23rd of August and 25th of
August declared them qualified to undmiplie. The under-
signed will not dwell on the want of good kith indicated by
I this proceeding. It is enough for Win to observe that the
I alleged necessity of reference to Pekin, from a point so dia-
-1 taut as this, involves delays to which he will not submit.
has acrordingly called upon his Excellency the Gamma
I Commanding her Britannic Majesty's Army in China to
r provide him with such a force as will enable him too- pr'
coed, without loss of time, to Tung-Chan, and he has
further to intimate to the Imperial Commissioners that he
as neither receive their visit nor enter into any convention
with them (sr the reestablishment of peace, till he shall
=re reached that city.
(Rived) Eumr AND ICINCARDIVIL

ardimare $ t the Berl of Eligis'a despatch of September 8,
IMO, received 7th September, 18e4.)
Learn sad llaoj•Puh, Imperial Commumiotiers, sad
Rased, AmiataateCommiegoaer, make a °Domenic/dim is

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