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' was anything like • fir aching. even irate territory ceded
remised u it wee, with the fortresses untouched, bat it was
far less fair now, if they had been destroyed. He wished to
ask the noble earl whether it was true or sot that these
fortresses bad been dismantled, and if no, whether it was
agreed upon in the treaty of pews that they should be dis-
'sanded ? In the ass of &guaranteed government like
Turkey, there should have been a condition that the for-
tresses were to he retained. He would seek whether any
loillitief were to be rebuilt on the right and left bask of the
Danube, and Use, by what soldiers they were to be gain
wined ? By the treaty of Adrianople those fortresses were
not to be garrisoned by Turkish soldiers; bat he supposed
that treaty had been @paged out by the war. He also
wished to ask another visage= of his noble friend. It leas
now nearly two months deem his noble friend had
sent • Weimer from this country to St. Peters-
burg. Lord Weelabouse was appointed and sent eat
very soon after the penes was signed, and he had bees at
tie court alien* for a month; but no minister, or smi-
thies like one, had appeared at tha court of England as the
reprftestative of Russia ; and be thought that, without
bang too punctilious on these rotate after &gnat war, we
should have stood a little epos form, and not have risked
the dignity of her Msjesty by seeding an savoy to Russia
too soon, without aseertathing that one was main to repre-
reattbst souatry in England. He wished to know why the
just expectation of each an event bed bean dieeppoisted,
sad why the minister for Russia had not arrived in this
etweatry, east tam it might be expected that the ceurt of
llsseis would be npreoutwi at the court of Reglited
The Bari of CLARENDON—I will answer the questions
dog belie Mead in tha order in which he has put them.
t VOW te tall bin what is the state of the fortresses of
AIM sod Tosesil. Weave, the oommistioners appointed to
IMO the ibeettier of Moldavia. although they hart been oc-
empled thethasinees, have not yet gone to the paint where
ukase fortreeere are *tested; and I heard this morning
Ina St. Petersburg that no report bad bee& received there
on a what had been date with them. But I have ao
&obi that those fortresses have bun dismantiod, and I
think it • mat unusual—a most irregular proceedieg—a
very mefortneste mode of Usage/sting • pews. No w-
ales terms with regard to the Weren't were Welted in
Mu treaty of Paris • and I should have thought
it would have bees considered almost an affront
le have mentioned that with regard to which there
weld have been no difference of opinion. I am told
that the Russians use* that they have the mime right
to demolish those fortresses u the allies bad to demolish
the works at Sebastopol. But there was a great diffuse ce
between the two cues; and besides, sines the peace was
signed, although there may have been some destruotioe,
then has been no demolition of fortresses by the allies,
illness there has been • dismantles* of Rod and Ismail
its.. the signing of pews. We might as well
semen that by eight Kutch, Kamieseh, and Bertha's,
sad especially Yertch, ougtt to have be.. destroyed;
bet we considered that, es soon as peace woo
Biped, those fortresses belonged to Russia, and that
' it would have been dishonourable to have destroyed them.
We onalder, therefore, that Russia bad no right, from the
day that the treaty was signed, to meddle with beat! or
Rai That is the opinion of her Majesty's government,
and It has been communicated to the court of Russia, but
we have as yet Melted so formal answer on the subject.
There is soother fortress to which my noble friend ha. not
alluded—l mean Kars. I have also made inquiry with re.
gard to that fortress of the Russian government, and the
answer I have received Is, that the moment peace was
signed the Empe rir sent orders to Kan that nothing should
be destroyed; otherwise the destroying of the citadel of that
fortress would have bees an slams violation of the treaty
of Paris, but owing to the disturbed state of the country
those orders did not arrive le time to traveut that being
doss ; bat the moment they did anise no further destine
ties took place. There has been also a report that is a part
of the territory alma to Moldavia certain crown lands were
co be sold. I secordiegly sent to make inquiry on the sub-
j, at, sad was told thst some of the &gaolinss were going to
sell some of the crown land., but the sale had been stopped,
the Remiss Kovestment admitting that they were no lager
thsin. The Russian government has stated in the strongest
terms its iatention and desire to arty oat the treaty in the
mat faithful meaner, and I hope there will be an further 00-
salon for any disturbance of that sailldenee whit*, attar
pease has been established, should exist hawses the diffe-
rent ometries. With regard to the arrival of the Remise
mists*, is this country, I have to say that we received an
'Medal indasaies from Baron Bresnow when he ease to
this country to deliver • letter to her Majesty, that Count
CieSelliteit bad been appoieted minister to this country. As
he had hese a long th cosies, and this country was left
without • roproupotatla of Rases whisk wee somewhat
dkresposthi ber Majesty, I inquired at St. Paanburg
the mem of the delay, and I have ban informed that the
minister will be here at the cad of the month, and that the
delay was wholly ualotentional.
The Earl of ELLEN BOROUGH said that Russia had
ailed the fortresses on the left bank of the Danube, and due
peemetioas should have both taken by the governments
WM eliepted the territory. They should have taken can
SW prevision was made with regard to the state in which
theft fortresses were to be given up. whether they were to
be given up wi'h their gees and their ammunition, and who
titer the erchivre and plans of the fortresses were to be
given up. All three contingencies wen always provided
ice is treaties relating to fortresses, and if the noble earl
menpleined about what had been done in this instance, he
geoid only say that it woe the noble earl's own fault for not
bevies taken the usual meantime.. He could net bet re-
pet that there was the least glimmering of a miessder-
reedier between this country and Russia.
The Earl of CLARENDON—The remarks of the noble
earl are founded on treaties in which fortress are named;
time fortresses were sot risme& ja the treaty of pew
The Earl of DERBY said it struck him that the surrender
of territory in which two fortresses were situated, by a
**sty in which thou foments were not named, was an ad
&howl neglect, es the only value of the territory in gees
ties was founded on the oilstones of those fortresses.
Tile resark of the noble earl only shifted the
blame from ore instance of neglect to another.
He did not Gently understand the noble earl. The noble
earl admitted that the Raisins had been guilty, if not of a
breath of faith, at least of a breech of an understanding
so indisputable that it was not thought accessary to imam
it in the treaty; and that in other matters they have treated
this country with a want of respect which was ululated te
mamas' the future relations of the two cometries. lie
begged to ask the noble earl whether, as he had somdeed
an suswer with regard to the fortress of Kars, be bed re-
ceived any reply to his rienous 'ranee with refers** te the
two other fort/eras ?
The Earl of CLARENDON said the object of ceding the
territory in riu, scion was to p Routh having any
access to the lett bank of the Danube. In mower t o the
noble earl (Derby) he had to say that he had not yet re-
ceived any answer on the subject of the two other fortresses.
The Earl of ELLEN BOROUG ll—By the first ge-
nerate proposed, Russia was to be excloded from the Pinch.
The fell of Kars incurred, and then came only their 'mai-
sloe beyond the Danube
The Earl of CLARENDON—They are secluded from
the Danube, sad 200 miles beyond that river.
The subject then droctud.
CONSOLIDATION OF THE STATUTE LAW.
CH ' NCELLOR called attention to the (tab-

Bank of England, and the limitation on the issue of notes
payable on demand by the private and joinesteck banks in
England, Scotland, and Wales.
REVIEW OF THE SESSION.
Mr. DISRAELI—It is my intention on Thursday next,
or on any other day which may be more convenient to the
noble lord at the head of the government, to call the Men-
tion of the boom to the conduct of the goy' Yemen, with
reference to the public business during the present session.
Lord PALMERSTON—Perhaps the right hon. gentle-
man will take Friday for hie motion ?
Mr. DISRAELI cemented.
GERMAN TROOPS AT ALDERSHOTT.
Mr. MURROUGH, having moved the adjournment of
the home, asked whether it was true that, although the
office, of the British arm at Alderebott had been
required to furnish hots at their own expense, the hats
occupied by the officers of the German troops there
bad been furnished for them at the public expeare.
:laving remarked on the elecurostaseee under which the
German Legion was raised, and the opposition that was
offered to the immure in that house, the hon. gentleman
proceeded to any that the way in which they bad been
treated had given much dissatisfaction to the English offi-
cers and soldier. It was rumoured abroad that .pereone
high I. authority—
Mr. WALPOLE—Sir, I rime to order. The hon. gentle-
man has given notice of his intention to put a question to
the government ; and then, in order that be might make
observations with reference to that goodie'', he has bad re-
course to the motion fur the adjournment of the house.
Strictly speaking such • motion ought to be supported by
asipmenta haying some eonneaion with the motion itself—
(beer, beat)—and if the COUTte which the bon. gentleman is
pursuing is out of eider, I think it is high time to
stop it. (Hear, hear
Mr. MURROUGLi—I perfectly concur with the right
hon. gentleman that I might to have atrorg reasons for
taking the course I have done, and I am proceeding to state
those reasons.
The SPEAKER—The right bon. gentleman has very
properly stated what is the rule of the house. When an
hoe. member moles the adjournment of the house, he
ought to state some reasons why the house should adjourn ;
and the hon. member bee not made any such stet' merit
yet. (Haar, hear )
Mr. MIIRROUOH—I was going to take this 0011Tre, and
not satisfy myself with asking a simple questioe' on account
of the things which have bappesed et Aldtcshott. wnere
English subjects an now Wog bleeding fines the dace of
them assassins; and I ask if lan not justified in taking this
course. (Cries of "No, no.") It becomes ur, as represen-
tatives of the public, to speak boldly. The poetic are ic-
dignant on this question. They feel that those troops are
conateneneed. (Load criee of " Order, order I") This may
be against the feelings of many ton. gentlemen ; hu• I do
say that after these circumstances have taken place, I
nedentand that these men at Aldenhott have their huts
furnished for them at the expense of this country.
Mr. SPOONER—I rise to order. The Speaker hey
stated that some good and sufficient reasons should be
✓eigned why the house should adjourn. Now, however
Weld we may deplore what has happened at Aldenhott,
out that form a good and sufficient reason why the bowie
should adjourn ? (Hear, hest.)
The SPEAKER—I have not heard from the hon. mem-
bee es yet any sufficient reason for the house adjourning.
If boa. members are allowed, on patting their questions, to
Ewes that the house do adjourn, of course every hon.
member may adr.pt the same course. (Hear, hear) By
that means order-days will be converted into notice-days,
and it will be impossible for any business to be carried on.
Mr. MURROUGH—I think, and many hoe. members
Wyk with me, that co business ought to be pr ceded with
until we have some statement from the government on this
important point. That is the reason why I moved the ad.
jesrament of the hones. (Cleestion, question.) No doubt
boa. gentlemen are extremely glad to get rid of this ques-
tion. It is • most unfortneate question for the government
and the country. I think I may fairly ask for some en-
planation alter these asominatioss have taken thee, by
which the morals of the army and the country in general,
to which assassination is happily entirely strange, are likely
10 be affected.
Colonel BUCK—I mule say that I think the boa. ment-
hes is now giving moms why the house should not ad-
Iie.III.IgROUGII—I am proceeding to state reasons
why I think the house ought to adjourn.
Mr. R. CURRIE—I submit that the mane pursued by
the hen. gentlemen is clearly out of order. (Hese, bear.)
Mr. ROEBUCK—I don't think any great or od wilt Hies
from this diatom:in ; but there is an old proverb, that what
is lance for the goose is niece for the gander (taught. r.)
recollect the hon. member for Northemptoa goriest up to
move the adjournment of the house, and going into a dig •
maim of the review at Spitbead. faerefote Ido not thick
that this is a wise proceeding.
Mr. E. BALL—Since I have been in the house, I must
my that it has been the constant practice of hon. gentlemen
on both sides of the how, who wished to make any state-
ment to the house, to shelter themselves in doing so by
moving tee adjournment of the h-,use.
The SPEAKER—No doubt boo. members from time to
time hey, made motions for the adjournment of the house,
with the view of bringing forward particular question, ; but
I really put it to hoe. gentlemen and to the home whether,
if that practice is persisted in, it will not be quire imp isolate
for the business to be proceeded with. (Hear, hear.)
Lore: PALMERSTON. -I appn bend that if tt.e orders
of the house were strictly eofereel, say bon. member
moving the adjournment eat the Louse should speak so that
question and that question only. (Hear, hear.) But
through laxity and indulgence, members have beou
pet-
mittd to go beyond that limit, end to speak on other sub-
jects; but here the hon. :Lemon' is not only departing from
the proper order of the house, hot from tee notice which be
himself has given. (gear, hear.) As be has given notice
of a question, let him put that question. I am perfectly
ready to answer it; there will be co difficulty whatever in
answering it. He has • motion en tie raper ;or to-morrow,
' respecting the foreign troops; ihstefore it is quite unoeces-
sary for him to violate the niers of the house in order to
make • statement now which he wilt then bare • perfect
right to make. (Rear. bear.)
Mr. MURROUGII—I will proofed to ask the question
of which I have given notice, bat I bops the nob;• lord
will give us irmethitig more tbss a mere answer, because
be must be perfectly aware that my motion for to-morrow
stands oo low in the paper to admit of its coming oc. The
hon. gentleman then put the question given above.
Lord PALMERSTON—I am rot going to enter into the
question to which the hon. gentleman aoverted—namely,
the unfortunate collision which happened at Ald.rrhott be-
tween the soldiers of one regiment sad the sable an of an-
other. lam really not sufficiently informed as to the details
of that outbreak to enable me to do so. I will Only say
that it to very much to be regretted, but it is not altogetber
mpled among troops of the same country. Tr us far
I am bound to say, that the general conducted the regiments
of the German Legion hos been most • Zeel:elut ; and
we have hood very high praise of them from all
the officers, both at home and abrotd, under
whom they have been placed. I row proceed
to the question itself. When the German loge n were
stationed at Shornetiffe, thy were top, cted to be there a
very she rt time; and afterwards when they were wens to
Aldenhott, it was also expo cord that it would only be for
the moment, until measures were taken fi r their final dis-
posal; and I trust that very sto,tly me cures wail carried
out for that purpose. (Hear.) They are there cu. rt ly for
the moment, until government is able to determine in what
manner they are to be disposed of. The question stated by
the hon. gentleman sepiolite be involving the etherge that
greater arcommodation has been given to these fereign
troops than to our own officets. I am hafirmed that the
ciao is this. The furniture for the huts supplied to the
British efficient° of two chain, a table, and • fire-
range; anything beyond that they provide th =pelves.
When the German Legion was stationed at Shoeueliffe, they
applied for an additional indulgence, cod that additional
indulgence was a soldier's bed zed mattress. It so hap.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.— MONDAY, JULY 21. Period that there were some to spare in the ordnance stone,
The Relents took the chair at 4 o'clock. and considering the sheet time they hid to he there, that
PRIVATE BUSINESS,
accommodation was afforded. When they cause to Alder-
The Lords' amendments en the following bills were ma-
ddened and agreed to :—The Dorset Central Railway Bill ;
permanently in the a !vice they r waisted that the same
shots, being there also for a very short potiod, and out being
andhe t''
Mee might be given to them,twhich
the Imprisoned Debtors' Discharge Society Bill; the Perth, le"
Almond Valley, and Mechem Railway Bill; and the
Sluewsbury end Welehpool Railway Bill. suit:tied. They had oothing more beyond what was har-
ped ;en lest to them out of the ordnance stores were again
TALBOT'S DIVORCE BILL. enoimsh.edoatomitho: h u
one wohtelieriss.
fairly do ncpote.thwintkheth.at.th.dis,acer:
On the motion for the third reading, sion of the ken. gentleman. (Hear.)
Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE meld that, although be would THE FOREIGN LEGION.
not divide the house, t e euLL retained the feelings he had
Mr. NEWDEGATE asked the First Lou O of the Trit-
on • raviolis occasion ezernseel. He considered that to-
eery whether, in the Opinion of the eon cement. the tr, ups
justice bed cruelly triumphed.
hon. and teamed member. Eirerythieg that could be said
Colonel FRENCH protested against the remarks of the mentor
"positivengdttayk.'oirtheminnthLeeguionnitewdereerivgadiloald; for garti,oo or
in f auttiorieed the government to raise foreign allowed
f Mrs. Talbot hod been urged in her defence., and
after a fair and impartial trial the result had been adverse . t f these
Lord PALMERSTON said the get of. parliament w high
them to bring into this country a cer mu cumin r
to bor. troops for the motion of drill and ergauisation ; but it was
The bill was then read • third time zed poised. sever contemplated that they should, while here, be em-
STANDING ORDERS.
On the report of the Standing Orders' Revision Co.- dis any manner la which trJi,is might untortuustely
requ,thatireddiscussion to act in this ctuntry. He had no hesm ulna in
assent im I as a testing place, until measures, which
finally agreed to in an tenet" for., the Hese thereby tram in contemplation, should be taken for 'disband-
seltlee °let would not "wive say "it" ce i
r. And alt iough in the retest state of the country, he
wpm say motion for a charge upon the revelllll4 of the Beet leenP.
Muslim it wen utterly out of tne question to sopoose that
India Comrany without the comet of the mows.
any troops could be required for any rush hurt One
NOTICES OF MOTION. u Wu to which the tenantable 'anticline's gene-
Tun Boltz C . Mr. 7 ITN, early next maim, to tion referred, he would add, that undoubtedly no foreign
move the appointment of a select eommittee to inquire into
_ troops would, under any circumstance,, be so erne!. yd.
the operaticsled th• *Set es the c•"ftei'l Sad 'lase,_,
. Mr. NEW DEGATE asked whether these t:o ps would
interests of the emus iry of the Let 7 sad 8 Victoria, eap.37, be available fer garrison duty,
known as the Bank Charter Act, with special reference to Lord PALMERSTON KW they were not in Irani-
the "spines of the basking end lane dipestanti of the

The LORD CHANCIs.._
Jeer of the isoemlidation of the statute law. He described
the steps taken to brim? about that object, and the °Weeks
which had hitherto delayed its acoomplishment. and as an
instalment towards the work laid a series of bills, &shag
with different departmente of the cods, on the table of the

hones.
The bills were read a }list time, and ordered to be printed.
A long list of meaeures wu tben gone through, end a
Wage of progress effected wilt sub.
Among Innen the Bishops of London and Durham Be•
Crimean Bill was tend a third time.
After some fusilier opposition, which was pressed to a
division, bat negatived by a majority of 26 continue to 16
non-contests, the bill was pawed.
Their lordships adjoarned at Is. o'clock.

set • they were earamped ; they mast be etimewhem.l
(Laughter.)
Lord R. CECIL asked if some of the foreign troops had
rot been is sterri.on is Meer Castle.
Lord PALMERSTON said he believed that, during the
war, they hod occupied • barrack in Dover, where they had
emembled for the purples of tralaing.
THE RECENT COAL EXPLOSION.
Mr. CAY LEY asked lbs nett bon. gentians* the Se-
cretary of State fir the ildme Department whether he at-
tended to employ any special means to ascertsia the real cir-
cumstances under which the disastrous loss of 110 byes had
jest take. platy, from an explosion in a coal mite is Gla-
snorgaushire. The question stated ID limy hat he had
silos been informed that 120 lives had be* lost.
Sir 0 GREY said he had remind aa amount et the us-
fortgeete accident in question, bath ems Ib erneer and
the tweet.r of the district. The smear Melee this Ow
=or we. on the; spot two Mum after the 0011UPIIMINI
her fleas, and that he rendered very valuable sea*
✓ise Is the prosecution of the sellsequeet (equity. But he
Mild that in the then stale glebe feel pit, and amidst the
aselesettt naturally ecisamprMen Ike Washy, it wet
imgesible its cease could at we be thoroughly investi-
=d the inquest bad therefore lees adjourned to the
samt. The inspector wrote te my that, cossideriag the
mane of the calamity, in which it appeared that 114 lives
had been loot, he wished to have the mistimes of two
other isspecton lr watching the Mosley; and he (Sir G.
Grey) had smordiegly directed that that mandeace should
be given. A thorough end searching Muralist= would
take plane. (Hear.)
THE LOSS OF THE EUROPA.

Capt. ARCIiDALL asked lb. Fort Lord of ate Treasury
whether, t having been announced by the Bement, of
State for the Home Department that the government monk'
take into consult ratsn the question of ere, tuts gene perms-
mist mentorsl to the gallantry and self-devotion of the
carers and men who were lost in her Majesty's skip Bir-
kenhead, is February, 1852, the government mould sat at
dm Isms time rotuda, the propriety of emoting • mess-
MOM Is the minim of Colonel Willoughby Ms... sad the
neasemmilelosed Akers sad men of He lamiddlliag
Deepens who list their lives by tbei berslag of the Bu-
mp tramayst skip, In their presage is the seat Of war is
as spies of 1854 ?
Lord PALIIIIISI ON mid the pwaraist wee par-
tatty &spited toeomninaorate by ems pensane UMW
dal that other act t,) which the bss. awl ptllaMpsilewes
referred, in ob." a Bomber of DeWit lose. b. alibmied
• eplendid example of the plisse sessop. ash the howls
eelf•poesuaton witiehdistisugskikedeut oedema olisheilsis.