The Express.
London, England, 1867-08-06 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PART

HOUSZ 07 LORD6.—MONDAT, Acta-wr 5.
lx the Howls of LORDa yesterday, on the order
et the day for going into committee on the Repre-
imitation of the People Bill,
Earl RCBSELL called attention to the amendment
which raised the lodger qualification from 10/. to
ltd., the effect of which, he said, was to exclude
the masa of the working cases in London from the
franchise. He did not think their lordships con-
templated this result, and he, therefore, moved to
Rescind this amendment by striking out "fifteen"
sad substituting " ten " in the fourth clause.
The Earl of DERBY was of opinion that the whole
a the circumstances which had induced the House
of Commons to 6x the qualification at 101. had not
been clearly placed before their lordships, and they
would do well to reconsider the question, and not
insist on their amendment.

Lord Haautmos, much as he disliked the bill as
a whole, thought the time had arrived when they
should endeavour to pass the bill without giving
rise to angry discussion in the House of Commons,
and he therefore hoped their lordships would assent
to Earl Russell's proposal.
Lord CAIHNS said he was in ignorance of the fact
that there had already been a compromise in the
House of Commons on the subject, or he should
not have moved his amendment.

The motion was then agreed to.
Earl GRANVILLE moved to strike out the clause
which enables graduates of the universities of
Oxford and Cambridge to vote for the city of
Oxford and town of Cambridge, saying the effect
of retaining the clause would be to create ill-feeling
between the graduates and the townsmen.
Lord Callm' supported, and the Earl of Powis
defended the clause. _

The Earl of DERBY said the number of stndents
who would come on the register wo-lld be infinite-
aimal,•and no case bad been made out for excluding
them. _ _ _

Lord CRANWORTH remarked that the general
principle was clear that the universities should
have no interest in the town elections. _

The motion wu negatived without s division.
Lord STRATHEDEN moved an amendment on the
sth clause, the effect of which w:►s to raise the
county occupation franchise from a rateable value
of 121. to a rental value of 20/

The Duke of hliaLsoitoutin thought it unwise
for their lordships to disturb the arrangement
which the House of Commons had come to on this
subject.
This motion was also negatived without a divi.
aion, and the same fate befel another which was
brought forrard by the Earl of liAliaownv to clause
17, the effect of which was to combine the repre-
sentation of Chelsea with that of Westminster and
llarylebone, giving to the two latter boroughs
three members each, his object being, as he stated,
to extend the principle of the repristentation of
minorities to the metropolis.
The Marquis of SALISBURY moved a series of
clauses to carry out his clause enabling the electors
to vote by means of voting papers.
Earl RussiLL said he entertained great objection
to the system which would be introduced by the
adoption of this principle. He could not help
regarding it as the introduction of the ballot in
another form.

The Earl of DERBY was as strongly opposed to
secret voting as any of their lordships, but provi-
sion was intended to be made in this case that the
returning officer should during the hours of polling
publicly open all voting papers transmitted to
him, and read out the vote for the candidate
therein named.
The clauses were agreed to

The Earl of DERBY said he should ask their
lordship.' to read the bill a third time this day.
The Railway Companies Bill and the Railway
Companies (Scotland) Bill were read a third time
and passed, aad several other bills having been
advanced a stage, the house adjourned at a quarter
to nine o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAT, AUGUST 5.
IN the HOUSE of COMMONS, Mr. NEWDLOATI
gave notice of his intention on Friday to call atten-
tion to the circumstances attending the appoint-
ment of the committee on the Ecclesiastical Titles
Bill, and to the report of that committee.
Mr. GLADSTONE inquired what course the govern-
ment intended to adopt in reference to the amend-
ments made in the Representation of the People
Bill in the Lords.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that
they had as yet no official information of what the
other house had decided upon, and he presumed
that the amendments would be printed, and that a
day would then be fixed to consider them.

On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex-
camiusx it was ordered that the house meet at
two o'clock this day.
The Factory Acts Extension Bill was read a third
time and passed.
On the motion for going into committee of
suPPIY,
Mr. Sam.r called attention to the estimate for
the maintenance of Greenwich Hospital,and mowed
that the cost of management of the institution is
too great, and ought to be reduced. The great
object, he said, of the act of 1865, by which the
number of pensioners residing in the hospital
was reduced, was to decrease the cost of manage-
ment, but it was in fact increased. The establish-
ment charge was now 42,0001., of which the charge
for management was 23,0001., which he submitted
wax excessive, seeing that there are now only 370
men and 850 boys in the establishment.
. .

Mr. CORRY admitted that the establishment
charges were too high, but said a committee had
been appointed to consider the subject, and that he
had no doubt the result of their report would be
to reduce the cost.

Mr. CHILDERS pointed out that the act of 1865,
which was passed to reduce the number of inmates
in the hospital, had been successful, inasmuch as
out of the revenues a sum of 56,0001. a year is now
appropriated to out-pensions, and he suggested that
this might be further carried out, so as to leave in
the hospital only the 160 men who kept their beds,
and that even these men might be advantageously
removed to Hasler Hospital.
After some further discussion, in the course of
which Colonel Sykes, Mr. Candlish, and Mr. Lid-
dell urged the claims of the merchant seamen who
had paid "the Greenwich sixpence," the motion
was withdrawn.

One or two other subjects of minor importance
luring been discussed,
. . .

Mr. J. B. Mitt called attention to the declaration
of Paris of 1E356, so far as it relates to the right of
seizing enemies' goods in neutral vessels. He
submitted that by that declaration we had put
away the natural weapon of a maritime people--
the right of making war on the commerce of our
opponents ; that we had surrendered it without
receiving any compensation; and that unless we
by resuming this natural and indispensable weapon
placed ourselves on a level with continental
nations we should continue to be bur-
dened with the additions which had been
made to our naval and military establishments,
and in spite of them should be constantly kept in a
state of alarm. The step we had taken, however,
in joining in this declaration was not irretrievable ;
it was not a treaty, and we were at liberty to with-
draw from it. He maintained that it was for the
general interest of humanity that every country
should tight with its own weapon, and that it was
absurd to suppose that we should be at war with
another nation, and that our merchants should at
the same time be carrying on a roaring trade with
it. If we were to withdraw front the declaration
it should be in time of peace, and on ample notice
to the other Powers concerned, for he should feel
humiliated as an Englishman if we were to with-
draw from it only on war breaking out.
Mr. Noitwoon contended that the principle of
the declaration of Paris ought to be carried fur-
ther, and be extended to all private property nut
contraband of war, whether in neutral bottoms or
not. _ .

Lord STARLET said he could not enter into the
question of what might be done in a moment of
extreme danger, when the existence of the nation
wail in danger. ICo one could deny that this en-
gagement had materially altered our position both