The Express.
London, England, 1859-04-19 00:00:00

(Stamped H. Ate) [TWOPENCE.

It was aot manataral that
Pis amid make
frombrie soak, although Piahned had to her
Austria es lass as dee kept wilds her own bounds.
Me agreed with Lord Men den as to the Werke. nada
of the treaties which Andra hid .noted lam with the
Italian States, and thought ft would be who he her to to-
madder them. In regard to the Papal fftsks, ha thought
that it would be best to leave that matter to Eames gad
Austria daring the engem, ellswbe the Pops
mice fa the oodles. I think (ocettland ids
that the Ene. has sow coma wheat i most be bay."'
whether the eager' is to meet at all, and whither a pease.
able solution el this oseelloo he postibb. I mad sety I
think it wend be neither he the Maser ale the letterset of
this es miry OM them aspelellese awl these slimenkeis se
Is the tense el ainme to be halal shield hag he gen-
heited. (Hem hem. I Matti* ameba. mesa or ossrly
ew=l e, we dzia
It asks sae men ISM, sad we more
is cat ter us saw to um sou), bat
IL. at hood ohms Embed should we *et the
plaid hes gem by for trifilag with these maims, sad the
paid be. emu witsaasevizig exhausted all her friendly
which have met the approval of
btlattilmwiThconees =at, attempted the settlement of these
greet should, however reluc-
tantly, withdraw hattraerferemes in affairs in which she no
hanger could hops that her interference would be medal to
the public tutored. or oessletant with her own honour, end
shettli again redeye to heeself, se she has renamed to this
moment, the attar, aloalakaad entire freshen to them&
course se eireurnsteasse t justify. (Loud desese.) X
noble friend has pointed the danger and the
consequences which send arks to Italy if this war honk
out, whatever be its malt. Bet he has unilerseesd the
magnitude of the danger if he centaur them nesdis
(Hsu, brae.) If this egf r beak oat Is 11*, IS vE
be a was, is the AM pm, of • ass saitississey
deserlpam, beams it will bee we. dpltsyia awl prism.
It will not be a war between two re memo he sons Sr
finite object, but a war that wit mks the matt
and the moat vio'est pasatous, and of whittle swat=
Italy, no satisfactory solution can be foremen. Bat_ begin
in Italy, it is hopeless to imagine that the war will b. ma-
tinee' even to the Italian state. (Hear, hear.) 0 :ha
passions will be roused, other interests will be touched, other
nations will be called upon to interfere; and the war will he
certain, at no distant period, to extend from Italy, and to
bury the whole of Europe in one general rather/eke.
(Hear, hear.) It would not be difficult to trace the steps by
which such complications and such extension would neces-
sarily follow. I will only say this—that it would
be impossible for us to look with total indifference
at any alteration of the occupation of the shores of
the Adriatio—that our tattered' In the Id
great and *Moue as they are, would require the
vigilance and the most earned attention to guard them from
any possible contingency against any power whatever.
(Hear, hear.) It Is quite obvious that It requires bet Toy
little stepping out of the limits of Italy itself to predate
ease which would at once, under the strictest and *beet
test
of treaty, brink the whole of Germany into the
field in support of the Germanic Confederation. (Meer,
bear.) If those powers are brought Into the fish, what le
to become of Belgium—of Bwitzerland—what is to basins
of the general state of the political relations of Europe?
The war once begun In Italy cannot be confined to Inty;
and once speed beyond the limits of July, It is impossible to
formes who will be drawn Into ft, or what the results of it
will be. (Hear, hear.) This country is deeply interested in
the maintenance of peace, sad is prepared to make
any sacrifice for its maintenance ; but this ma
cannot, in the interest of peace, assume • position which
would place it in a helpless and defenceless position,and If war
should break out, whatever be the consequence, it may be
necessary, as long sa our neutrality last, it must be to a cer-
tain extent an armed neutrality—Chest, Mari —reedy make
our part on that side, whichever it be, which honour, justice,
sad the dignity of our country may require at oar hands.
(Hen, hear.) That is the course which I bops the =
meet will be supported in taking by the unanimous
of parliament and the country. lam quite °effete lam ex-
peening that which is the sound and only rational feeling.
God grant that the necessity may be spared as of entering
on such a dangerous course 1 God grant that be the councils
of Europe there may yet prevail greater moderation, greater
wisdom, greater temper, and that this storm may pan
by without breakMg out in the meaner that it
threatens to do I But if the chances of
depend in a great measure upon the unanimous assent .11.1:-
'lament to the viscid. lola down and the sentimests so ably
expressed by my noble friend on the other side, I am quite
sure aim that the chances of peace will be maternity
strengthened and supported by the knowledge c f Europe
that fhb country will not be allowed to remain • helpless er
a feeble spectator of events which may compromise her dig-
nity end her honour; and that the responsibility of this war
with all its consequences and all its remits will rest upon the
heed of that power, whkbrear it be, which, without doe
occasion, and without most orient and imperative necessity,
has inearred, for its own atabitious ends, the evils, the mist-
hotness, and the vime of war. (Cheers)
The subject then dropped.
The following bills were read a third time and peassd.
Pauper Matsu canoe Act Coutinumee Bill Lepel Govern-
meet Supplemeetal Bill; Publk Offices xteosion Bill;
Confirmation end Probate Act (1868) Amendment Bill;
Navel Medical Continuance Bill; Cossolidated Fund Appro.
pristioa Bill ; Reesimies of Penalties Bill.
THE WESTMINSTER CLOCK.
Lord CAMPBELL wished, before their lotdships sepa-
rated for the session, to call their attention toe very im-
portant matter—he meant the clock. (A laugh.) Since he
last mentioned the enbjece, he bad to announce that the
clock had made some regrew. It now need at five mi-
nutes to de, whereas it used to be at ten minutes to dz.
(Laughter.) If the 8148,11008 under which he, ix common
with ell he suitors In Westminster-hell, at present suffered,
wen not removed by the meeting of the next perliarnent,las
should hal it his duty to take 11•TIOUS noticed (Laughter.)
The Reel of DERBY hoped that by the time the next par-
liament met, the de horde would be overcome ; and that tbe
'lobbied keened lord would have the dearest wish of his
bean acommilehed, namely that of using in motion the
greatest iisteof eleckwork in the world. (Lesebter.)
Thou Marquis of LAMSDOWNS presented • petition from the '
Mew Society of Painters in Water-cokers, but Its purport was '
ad based.
THE INDIAN PRIZE-MONEY.
The Earl of ELLENROROUGH asked whether her
Majesty's government had yet adopted any measures
for placing the army in India in poeseeM n of prise property?
It was to their exertion dose that we owed halm, and it was
time that tilt), should receive some more substantial proofs
of the approbation of their colliery than had yet been
bestowed upon them.
The Earl of DERBY quite agreed with all the noble ail
had said both with regard to the gallantry and merits of our
Indian army, end with regard to the desirability of settling
as soon es possible this question of prize money.
The late Board of Directors had given its as-
sent to tbe distribution of the Delhi prize moony;
only reserving any poblio stores that might have been re-
captured, sod anything that might be recognised end claimed
me pelmte property. So tong ago sr July, 1858, they re-
quested that an eetimate might be sent them of the amount
that would remain after these deduelone, but no answer had
yet been received. No time would, however, be loot in
urging upon the government of India to give the neeeseary
information. With regard to other prize property—that
captured at Candsish, Lucknow, and otter places—no decides
had yet been come to by the Indian goverment as to the
principle upon which it shoed be distributed but he could
assure hie noble friend *het be quite concurred with him in
thinking no time sheuld be lost. Ho would, therefore.
strongly urge upon the government of India to heten their
decision.
Their lordships adjourned at hall-past seven.

COLONEL DICKSON.
Mr. T. DIINCOMBE eared the Semilary of State for
War whatieritwas hie titration torecommend her Majesty to
reinstate Lieutement-Colonel Dickson, lute
that of
officer in
the Tower
Hamlets Militia, after the verdict obtained by
the Court of Queen's Bench spinet the colonel of that mgt.
mat
Onteral PEEL said the grounds on which he removed
Miami Dickson from the command of the regiment were of
a merely military character, miring out of drettmetencee
connected with the expenditure efretterltent, for which,
as the reireeletelin &Soar, helm Any advan-
tage whioh Cornet Dickson might we derived from the
verdict of the jury he woe tally entitled to' but so fez
as the evidence taken on the trial related to the military vow
of the questioc, the opinions expreesed by the Commander-
iniichief, the Adjutent-OeseraL, end other military °Seer%
may continued in the view he had previously taken. Ea
had not the eligklest doubt that the jury did their duty ; ha
wee quite certain that he (General Peel) did hie, end he hid
no Intention to recommend her Majesty to reinstate Colonel
Dickson In the command of the regiment.
Mr. T. DIINCOMBE pee not that if he were in the
new perliament he should move for a oommittee &inquiry on
the subject.

THE MEDICAL OFFICERS IN THE NAVY.
Sir R. GROGAN said, some time ago a memorial wee
Crto the First Lord of the Admiralty with regard to
eition of the medical taws in the navy. The right
hoe. baronet had promked on several occasions to state what
wen his intentions to the matter, end as parliament was on
the eve of dinralatioe, he wished to learn from the eight hon.
gentleman whether he would grant the prayer of the me-
morialisia, sad, if so, when their wishes were likely to be
carried into egad.
Sir J. PARTNGTON said, as he had beton intimated he
had determined to yield sabetantially to the claims of the
mainotialleta, it now only remained for the Treasury to eon-
sees to the pawing of an Order in Connell; and he was in
hopes that at the Council which would be held on Saturday
next an Order in Council would to keeled pier/Meths medical
officers of the navy in a position of peeper equality with their
brethren In the army. It wee peellble that the ceder
would not be prepared so soon as (Wordily, bat in that ems
it would be lamed at the socceeliag vimover it
might be held.

THE ITALIAN QUESTION.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER having
brought up, by coneramed of her Majesty, papers containing
political and territorial heaths relating to the Italian States,
proceeded, in a subdtied tone, to lay before the house the
stale of the segoliationa respecting the affairs d Italy. The
narrative portion of the right boa. gentleman's speech had
neeemarily much in common with the statement in the
other hones by the Earl of Malmesbury. France (he
sad) hes accepted the proposition of Austria, that there
should be a general disarmament. Whether that general
digarrannent should take place before the meeting of the
angers, or whether, when commis meets, it should be the
firstsubject taken Into consideration, I. not settled, and there
are two opinions on that. Austria is In favour of • general
disarmament in the Brat place; France would prefer that
when the congress meets the general disarmament
should be the first subject diseased. Her Majesty's
government would approve very much the sugges-
tion of Austen, if all the other powers were auelly
favourable. But unfortunately Sardinia hes not yet accepted
the proposition of a general &armament, and therefore it is
useless to go into the matter of detail until Sardinia consents
to the prince le. Whether the disarmament should be en-
tered into before the congress meets, or whether the conditions
of that disarmament should be the Shat subject of discussion
of the congress are matters which certainly do seem to be of
secondary importance when there is a polar so much interes-
ted as Sardinia who has not yet usurped the riatiple. Now,
air, it is understood that Sardinia has not ace
cepted this principle because she has not been In-
vited to be present at the; conferences of the eon-
geese. Upon that paint I will, with the permission of the
heave, make one or two obeertatiose. Sir, there Is no doubt
that In this country sweat sympathies have been enlisted in
favour of Sardinia—(bear, hear)—and, sir, notwithstanding
then may have been lOW variation in the strenl:lhinoli
those sentiments from what they were some little time ago,
notwithstanding there has been much which would have
been embetraseing, perplexing, and even ambiguous in the
conduct of Sardinia, I sin bound to ray that 1 believe on the
whole that the feeling of this country is not wanting injus-
tice to Sardinia. 1 am sure that on the put of her
Majesty's govanment I may my that we are pre-
pared le place the mat generous interpretation on her
conduct, lacking to what she has had to encounter end the
objects which sae; has accomplished. Therefore. I need not
eity that ws considered this question with eisferwie• to a
aremureca4l"...aved the ideonothf oti:toetotenfinatb:boYevt:gerfare:V.:diporturri.oicep:pos,dbwiloonyeirti.outto;oourters.dfdPtatimazi eaoyon.watt..B.:Thegrpolonboweyufr,
whichiwt. warumkoowel
that proposition being fora congrus of the five great powers,
it was difficult to see how Stadion could appear at that
congress. Now, sir, it ham been said that Sardinia was a
member of the c =pees of Paris. No doubt, air, Sardinia
was a member of that congress, and Sardinia in her place
in that congress reflected a great glory and reputation oa the
people of the oeuntry. (Hear, hear.) She had taken a very
airlifted pert— (hear, bean—end had made great exertloes.
lithe had endured great sacances,sed she was fairly entitled
to be present at the settlement after the struggle was over,
and to take her place at the congrees when they met. Bat
in the present instance hon. gentlemen will feel that there
is a difficulty not to be surmounted. Here Is a congress
proposed by powers friendly to Sardinia, which is to ounant
of great wren. Sardinia Is not • great power. Is &Wink
to ester that congress en • secondary power ? If so, what
superior elaim has she se a secondary power to be present ;
what claim hes she more then Sweden, Holland, er
Portugal, or any othi r esocandary power ? But it may
be said that &Minn was intimately intended to an Italian
state. (Hear.) But if Sardinia is to moist at that congress
as as Italian state, the congress which Is to meet tote deal
with the interests of other Ludlam Mates. She will not be
casoluded In any way by the unumemente made at the con-
gam; whatever the decision of the congress may tie it can
only take the form of recommendations. There were, how-
ever, In our opinion, means by which, if not there at the com-
mencement barren states might come in to the congress.
We might have followed the precedent which was pursued
in the ease of the conferences of London, when Holland and
Belgium, though not members of the returnee, appeared
before it and stated their wishes. We might have followed
the precedent of; the congress of Laybacte which wee •
ortagnis of the great powers, but In wnich almost all the
powers of Italy took part, and sometim. s eat on the cone,.
maces them vu. Her Majesty's goy' mmoot, alter coast-
&ming the matter, batlmeed to the other powers their desire
that these precedents should hare been followed, end that we
should have been bound by the wishes end interests of the
Italian states. Such, sir, is the condition of this question.
I have now stated frankly to the hou.e what Is the course
which the goy, ferment has taken. I hue shown the house
the original abeam of her Majesty's government was a
mediation between Prance and Auden. I have shown that
there was a fair presumption of that negotiation
beteg sucoessful mediation
I hare shown them how by • counter
propositiou that has a,sumed the form of a con-
gress, and I have sham the house that her Maje.ty's go-
vernment have done everything in their power to fuehtsb
the assembling of this camerae. 81% we ere therefore in this
condition of this affair—France and Austria have already
accepted the principle of a general disarmament—the imme-
diate manner in which that disarmament should be carried
into effect not absolutely /weed upon, but in the trinciplie
DAY, Aran. 18. these powers have agreed. Serdinia has net sena to that
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Mori
pe nned* on account, as we have reaen to Wave,
The Sentarn took the chair at the usual hour. of her net bathe summoned in awn to the con-
PRIVATE BUSINESS. terenca. I *been hope that under there circumstances
The Let"' amendments in the Crest Northern Railway the et fficulty on the part of Sardinia is one which
Bill were conalard and agreed to. might be got over. But I have the satisfaction of
The East Suffolk Railway Bill was considered. farming the house that this morning the Chevalier
The followiogwere read • fint time t—Charinrcrom Vete-gee arrived n this country on a special minter' from
Railway Bill, changed from London.bridge and Charing-more the e met of Turin. He has had an interview with my noble
Railway; Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway; friend the Secretary of State for Foreign Atkin already. He
Readies and Hatfield Road ; Seifued Borough (No. 2); is • man of iatelligesoe and temperate opinions, and I maned
Tentury Railway ; Wilsey Railway (No. 2); and War-
etwter and Hereford Railway Bill. cosine which will be, in my op,
The Menaces Water Bill and the National Fire and Life but think that under his exudatesinion ti
the urns
eons most In mord-
will take that
sue • ith her intermit and her repulwien. I masa think
Insureace Canpany of Sweland Bill were reed a soma time. thee, ia say poem. In Europe which wantonly wawa
PUBLIC BUSINESS. promote war. Three Is • power which may net he
THE DEATH OP JOSEPH MARSDEN. resent in this congrc
anl ess
titak—that
greater
Delif,rart. laltSwChbOlithereekbede
ottelleretai.
squat:6.o.as for the Horne than eallan
ion onanin. porter of public opine. I de nut think that In
lag the death of a boy named Joseph Maraca, which wee tttii day diet ie a port
a r which can bo wantonly outraged.
repelled to have been caused or emanated by cruel usage at Sir, . think veryia
great outrage public opinion
the reformatory bulk Akbar, at Birkenhead ? if, under the circumstances n which we tow onnelves
Mr. S. ESTCOU RI wee very glad that the hon. gentle• to respect to the Italian question, to solution should be fennel
him but that of the avoid. On the contrary, it appears to me that
the means of settlement are in f xisuroce, and although I knew
.manoppoe.ilead put:This.,
.qur.eati,oiung, as. thereptilywahiffordedch
t , prevail rather eitensively. The misconception was thet le is disheartening in the conduct of negotiatice sto find you
a boy, n board the reformatory hulk Marti, at Birkeehead, do not rapidly arrive at the result you dean.' sill, 0.11 the
bad teen flsgstd to di oth. The Impactor of Refornmenies. whole 1 count but see in all that has occurred a predenii-
Mr. Sidaey Terser, &vended the inquest et his request, sad sant ersh that the rotation should be one of peer. Fir, I
be thought that he sbeuld beatassweathe question byresding do not wish to conceal from this country that tbo iwne is no
the letter which was afterwards Wrested by that gentleman mean ma. A wee in Italy is not a wet in • oorner. An Italian
to the Home office. The right hnn. gentlemen tha n read war easy by passibility be en European war. Thewaters etherf
the letter, in which, after referring to • full report of the pro- Adriatic cannot be disturbed without agitating tb"..ratr•
reedfnr, which he forwarded, and to the verdict of the jury, the Rhine. 'the pon ol Trieste is not • mere an pert,
the writer said it would be awn from them that the cannier it is • port which belongs to the German confiders Jai, end
the hulk wars exonerated from all blame; that the boy's as attack on Trieste is not an attack on Austria aloe".
tabu!.
death resulted hum natural 0111/111, and that he bed sot been else en Geo many. If war springs up be the reciptire
subjected to eny meaty sr ilbireensent ;it kelszsgtheded Italy, liegtand hes In nat. el Mm races IV
that the deceased lad mouthed • gingen/ power of enlightenot principlos—of 110:.ub.irn.„
for a tins an dealt total, suspension of respirstion anel .din
an advene eye to aultht I_6"
sir elation, and that in doing this he ultimately lost Ms Ufa. the pesos of the world, but England 717
Teat letter was la stria sooordeace with the ea• coemdsratioas of the moat urgent eh:at-rote%
flat
dares whisk wee given en oath. When the nailer these cirearastamee I am it:
„....sidiraum
mertna examieetion was held, death was not tr to the house will treat with a.l tn
any misenal or internal Nosy. Be euneurred, tinnier', and nano which it dwarves the (leeeth° elltkat
, inimatiumithe oyinionta
shoot tare. Tama. , that firth "RN kwm the caws ietkaseetw befibmeorewrit.
tiatkasl tees placeduouizbetcle,
wultbeezpvelboneemtitempoelima-