The Express.
London, England, 1858-04-14 00:00:00

LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 14, 1858.

M 4 or ametinge hail mar its indherity ; had, neestige of
town ear& ; Ltd, meetings ke w shako of members of
Dot: nmestings mamma sailer may load it of
pediment, er tor the parpose pctposin • rate, or for
rearring say briars In reof any welt or district.
New, ups whet primal* had the melte lord aimed out
these tor tiros of mootiago ? (Hier, beez.) Was it
because they were modals el order and dseema? Why,
if he wished tosser amino which should be of saarly the
imatrary character, he Meal Lyudharst) should have axed
on some of those four dear. (Hear, hear.) Was vestry
meetings, and meetiags for the purpose of Owner' mar—
nerch-nase, for instAtm--m.i7 laugb)--so orderly sad dote-
room, so free from "ty and impropriety? He had
heard of cams In which • vestry had met, and was presided
over by the clergyman, in which the dolman bed been
Wad sat dais chair, and another person voted into it, and
I. *Melt • erne of tumult bad occurred, and speeches hod
bra rode el • mod objectionable character. (Hear, he
Yet this would be one of those which his noble hied
called his " favoured " *meetings. (Laughter.) His
male Mead bed Inciuded the assuage of both homer
of parlament amongst he favoured meetings. They were
held reestegs for a lawful purpose. (Laughter.) They
ought to be very grateful to the noble lord , but what would
the right reverend basalt !ay ? (Laughter—the bishops'
brach Wag quite empty.) Well, one of the right reversed
prelates (the Bishop of LondoD) had remained it=
dues of an Dour of his noble friend's speech
he gate away bears its ooseleadon. (Laughter) But
what would the right reversed prelate* may if they were pro-
ems f for the Coavocatica, it aseemed, was not a lawful
anesambly.(Lead laugher.) In the lower home them
be • sha esrp went tvb sew them—
e BELL hen larniolleaand the made it
herald ked.

lard LYNDHURST—I bog you TM bar me out ; yea
will bow onty ropilfas If you wish. (Laughter )
Lard CANIMILL-4 did propose to insert the coovoos-
de, bul I Imo eat-volod— _

Lad CYNDiaIEST—The Upper Rome, presided over
by a mod rev. prelate. co:Mating of tight rev. prelates, the
dignitaries of the church--eober, quiet, silent, unreled—the
Upper House of Convocation was actually excluded from
the bill. (Load laughter.) His noble friend had pre-
pared his bill himself, it had bee revised by a
east committee, sad they bed at lest come to the
coadmice that convocation we not a lidded amiably.
=limpness there was • noble earl (Lord Meshes-
), who dies presided owe adds meetings at Ramer-
at a religions deeredr, mestings far chari-
table purposes gad mhoole—modinge which the noble
sari, be we told, selemied them or four times a week.
ter.) They were attended ilirrgymen, by dimmed-
..ulottierdre, and semet(ams by reverend gmbese—
seems of peg eloquemee—mleede pest traportanes; bat
they were unladful meetinge—aß indeed* 1 (Loud
laughter.) Why, what • bill it we (Renewed bushier.)
Them we a noble and learned friend of his who was doing
suit and service in a neighbouring country, who led autumn
had prodded over a milting at Btrraingbens, fir the
=of considering a sander of very insportant
He (Lord Lyedhurat) hardly koew how to charac-
terise 14—he did act know whether he had organs to setae-
late Id proper name, which wee a combination of Latin and
Cheek—the " Sociological Society." (Loud laughter.) He
was not certain whether the noble duke oppoele we one of the
vice-presidents the Duke of Argyll shook him bed]; well,
that moiety would not be &lawful assembly within the meaning
of the ad. (Laughter.) About this tinniest year a rooding
was held, over which a noble lord prodded, on • subject of
the greatest possible Importance to a commercial country,
namely, for the purpose of comidering the laws of bankruptcy.
What could be a ram proper meeting? and yet that, too,
was not a lawful assembly according to noble hien&
(Laughter.) Why, what did the bill mean ? It excluded
everything. (Haw.) That mooning before he left home he
had put down • number of oases in which the bill would be
inoperative. He came to the lOtth, cad then he stopped.
(Loud laughter.) flee how the bill would work. The pub-
lisher of • newspaper we sued for printing • libellous speech
Ise pleaded that it we a true report, and made out hb me.
"Oh, but," the opposite counsel would say, " this was not
one of the favoured meetings I" and the unfortunate pub-
lisher would have to submit to • verdict of a farthing, and
pay his own meta, amounting, perhaps, to 4001. or 6001.
(Hear, hear.) His noble friend told them that he did not
make hie bill apply to all madinge, beams it sight be con-
strued to apply to seditious meetings. But that wm tropes
-
able; for it-tesditiorm meeting we not "a meeting lawful
seemobled for a lawful purpose." (Cheers.) He (Lord Lynd-
hung) should, therefore, propose in committee, nukes his
noble Mend himself thought proper to alter his bill, to
strike out the 3rd clause ; and make the alteration
of the law apply to every meeting " lawfully memobled for a
lawful p " without exception. (Hear hear.) He
hoped that the bill would be • second time; and referred
to a committee upstairs; end that in this maser, instead of
an utterly
greetbeffielea mu, they would have a memore with
some menace in it. (Loud laughter sad cheers.)
Lord WENSLEYDALE having taken an active pert in
every law referee during the last thirty years, felt very great
reluctance in opposing the bill ; but, it seemed to him that
it would prey abolish the distinction between written
end velem slander.
The LORD CHANCELLOR thought that, am the zusa-
sum we founded on recommendations not agreed to by the
of the select nommittee to which the state of the law
and that ea very few witnesses had been ex-
aswrined by that committed there was no sufficient evideme of
a wrong so general as to call for legislation. The
of the messes wee bound to furnish some proof of r=4:
teemed by the existing state of the law. This
had not been done ; in the absence of that proof the bill
Veinal bpon the second reeding.
CRANWORTH contended that the inconvenience
of the present law In certain cases had been distinctly proved.
and that some alteration was necessary. If the present bill
as a whole did not fully meet the evil, It contained the germ
of the remedy. He thought that any men speaking slander-
cm words at a meeting, knowing that what be said would
be published, ought to be regarded as really the publisher,
and to be made solely responsible. The house was bound to
Interfere by legislation when the law might inflict injury,
even if there had not been a large number of persons so ag-
grieved.
Lord CAMPBELL replied, and the house divided. The
numbers were—

come.nt.

36-28

The bill is ccasequeatly lost.
The house this stliourned at nixie o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONEL—TUZSDAY, Anal. 13.
The Bream took the chair at kw chink.
PRIVATE BUSINESS. _
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THTILD ItlADlclTM;EalrelOWl7l;llZwiy (Dolawiracck
Bawl° Bill was mil • third time wid pissed.

Is Muni ; sad if to, whether he purposed Iskia say step
le remedy this bwasrvadasoe
Lord I. MANNKIS wee swam ea mob as arramgemat
bad been made : the object of It was to promote public entre-
As malty se IWO led armed Me bridge leet
Sunday, sad if these were allowed to tom bask es
the bMge great lasoavesiesoe would be produced as the
a/grow pathways. He would Madre whethir say Mbar
simagemest would IMO promote pub& °amalgam
SEATS IN THE PARKS.
Yr. RWART asked the First Cossatiastater of Public
Works whatber titers would be say obieotion to give the
public the Dwelt of as ilXlll.olld number of mete toned the
larger Mem la Kaaelatgoa-gardeas sad Hyde-Dark?
Lord J. MANNERS add main had bees given to provide
those seaba.ts, mad a vale for theta would be takes la the
mam

THE NATIONAL GALLERY.
Lord BLCHO wished to mak the Chancellor of the Exohe-
m:hether the gomnuesst blended to take any steps
the present solos with • view to providing in-
aremed aceoteroodetkm for the nathoel oolleodon of pictures?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would be
terry to eay that the government did not intend to take any
steps this mession ; it wen however, impossible ides him to my
what those steps would be; the subject wee one which meld
sot be neglected.
SIR JAMES HUDSON AND HR. ERSKINE.
Mr. WISE asked the Under• Secretary for Foreign Affairs
whether Sir James Radom was to remain at Turin as her
Majesty's Envoy Extraordinary end Minister Pienipotas-
airy ; and whether it was intended to noel the Secretary of
*lewd" Mr. Ankles. from the same wham.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would
with permiesket answer the question. Then woe so inters-
the of recelllng Sir James Hudson from Turin. (Hear,
hear.) Greet services were not to be cancelled by en sot of
earelmenees of of momentary nmlect. (Hear, hear.) With
rotund to Mr. Erskine, he had been recalled to this country
to give en explanation of his conduct, and had been ma-
pander'.