The Express.
London, England, 1858-04-20 00:00:00

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Mr. GLYN thearcette the right his. gentlemen had
shows a ery wise in the male in white be had
dealt will the dalde en account of home delete of the
eleastry, eel .Yo with the is, taxatiaa be ingsmied la be
pees. (Hem, brew) He (Yr. Olyn) was we et lair whe
grappereed the es-Chasseler ef tb breseser wen
poor hit lees for the pupa et podding a dm a
et the late war ; Mee is Simi, *Oft hod it hod row
armed Ide id, ear 6M be think it had aimed
the mad ef sag his. palsat who supported the
mare, at tat *aft ha should be mead by
immowlag mortay. pilear,bertf.) He therefor thane* lain
theilht boa. neo bad acted %Tea lade amen
be takes. Ma, as.) With to the bred-
Ilea el st==wzena=is hoped the right
before be
tlieraXistrernesl I. ee de lea. alser.77reaset was
rata as. one. Re K ba hem esmaidorsd by the hat two
Croselire. lie damn it was a very tempting tag, end
an were Mee people was eY lime was • Z=l:
were ia purl= en pew amp. (Lipaater.)
the eight his. pedemmt ma set sopa that it raid
yield so meek se ha Mil mlimatod, bete one plea woad
mas 4 the pay amp es a ante papa to mar
ea
• nova
_ifir the Ramp et mousy • sad diadem what
Oa OW by lb, stamp on chsec tbey add
hue amps. Meer, bear) Mat of the
b. telt wse et riously ittj Mahon is de ma
=ithe winestsm of amounts kept with am bed sear-
needy remora within the last Mega or par; nod
without whim instrumentality it welt be fyWOMe to
carry on the errantly growing tramakes of is Nostry.
There wee hardly a sma brat or madman she did sat
now keep a meat ad rob al vat pay the alma ma
la by cheques af ton or three ponsla He (Hr. Olin) did
Lot think it would me muck affect the Lend= tositais; tot
still the right hoe. ruideman marsupial term= le boa
M"estetanus on the salbject mole to his ham =try pest
lCity. It womb, so doubt, prove a ease beam and
inoxamoseace to do stockbrokers, the mama et
draws ley whom every day almost sacewhilbdid. Wrs
real we be that which wall be hit by the
mediator is seri erinstry towns, end it weer their ere
that he wished mese particalary to cal the seterlen of the
Mark= gentlerr (Hear, he t.
Yr. H. INGRAM hoped that she seat budget word ems-
Mia a proposal he the repeal of the paper ditty.
Mier are further dreier,
Mr. otAosroNs approved of the equalisation of the
spirit doses, which he those* would realise the expectations
kneed from it. He could not blame the postponement of
the payment of the interest of the sinking Azad
under the circumstantiate With regard to the lu-
stre tax, it was jest that the expectation of the
-toiletry stireald not be disappointed ; the real die-
culry about the extinction of the income tax resided in the
=lmre of the oouatry. For three years before the war,
with 1862, the expenditure of We country was be-
tween 60 and 51 milker per annum. gives that time the
met of celle-ting the revenue had been included in the stair
meat of expenditure ; and adding that met, the oxpendbme
et the period he referred to would be 54 to 56 triss pr
annum. But what was the expenditure of the emary sew?
As rated to-eight—though the right hoe. pentlersim and
his colleague', mach to their credit, had enksweessi
to effect some induction in the salsa M the
year-the regular and ordinary apneas et de
maw ft( the year, apart from all charges cessetted with
the tri. rof the debt, wee 83,800,0001. Well, if they
had man an augmentation in the permanent expenditure if
the wasyof eight or sins millions a year, out of obi=
only 1I million was connected with the permanent anima
aswar,
emialleiby WaT, then it followed that they had
=rase ewe wr eight millions to the pertinent arpe.
etre of the enentry during that period aput attire/ from
Nee or elffigatiose ; awl with sure as iddiMon to or ea•
ras that, it needed no wired to discern where to
e mar of the difficulty of reducing taxation. (Hear,
bor.) Ome gramma called out be the abolition of the
paper dry; another—with when he did not on wenn/
sympethise—.p.6 abed it the tallostion of the hop duty
soother amiss/ be • meet imam moaner at the benefits
which would ,semi frees the abadeoe the malt tax. Some
of these demands sod& be mot moveable, bat some
were reronaele ; and it shed' be moreennbered at artless
that owing to the etre of ose_ swidlllllo IN Wire mot only
only precluded from the sebeala et MK but des Am
stanyleg forward those billefielefe is sr amosibil
legielsmon of which some yet ip=rbibs assemplbbs4
and which had proved der miesesee bode end edess-
loge to all closes in lb semogrhy. Miter. base.) AS de
present moment it add be univasseasle smbee=
made upon the goesomiet. Tb• elsbe bob
said truly that if mdse.'s at matedita as le aided
wisely end mfely, it mud be elected It was
fair that the government should have the Id enact the
in order to ti re its attention with dos sad Se • subject et
that magnitude. (Hem, hear.) But let tam Owe it duel,
and fully Woe their minds, that If they soma
to extinguish the income tax they must
lei= the whole Garda, of the country. He
a
that the themosession of the eenstry might be favo
Jar it el= they een• their id to the consideration of the
nailer ; ad he =rid that shot the government met pr.
limameat is dad= errs they might then find that clip
were not only breed to sessendee in words their obligations
tslb egemery es re eskime elf the More tax. tor Or they
la AMMO pope. eltbSdows the nasal easnattwe
le sea dinadrem as glee a aria' abornar I.
ea mg able them to &Me les
elle le urea As_ eeep, ma*

et the& basset.. (Hear.)
Mr. BLANEY bowed UP the Income tax would not be
get ell of by pain eh w Rena millions of taxation on the
people in other Mme. The Moms tax was la a peat masa-
mire by lbe sgeisat • tams on articles of consemptiou
meet the pimple at I (Hear, bear.) If he deed
skew be should epees sac a worse. sad haw OP he
sheath bees the of the esun'ey. He
the right him ta the able staternea=
and eapremed a general °esculent* in his Mena with the
*member be hed plated oat.
Mr. NEWDEGATS his opines thst Ibe mem
try would ewer be eeYeied mill they get rid of Net ellen
ion the bream Os. (Hear, ham.) It wield ha meet
eatldiotwy to nom that the avverament emit le blip fah
with the to fhb seepeat. Them Imre way MIMS
suP9l=the to ebbe be meal est enite. He
that the whom reisonded to the
honour of the Cbeneeffer of to , end yea PAW
kW Nina the ealguasint et No souney. (Hear.)
Mr. CAIDWULL mid he was me et dime who objected
ortelmily to the erase et to we. datztag tend, end thiern
km he was not at WI ampoled that Mel* bet menden whoa
• payment was called belt BMW & be the ebb etas hew to
a payment. With roped te the busk eamoning se
he did entirely in the etgeet ebbe &ed.* bat. gmeleman
had In view, namely, to secure, Upeethle, the abendonment
of the income tax at the time when it wee proposed to he
abar.doeed, he looked forward with aims apprehension to the
particylar ace which be had axed for the payment of the
2,000.0004. The bonds were originally borrowed is enticipa-
tea of hal,-a-year's income tax. Raley were to be liqui-
dated at all, it must be by means of the income tax, and
if the thing were not done before the expiration of Mak
he did sot see how they were to be liquidated at aIL Übe
understood the right hoc. gentleman, there was to bee s
borrowing of those bonds In the present year, whim the
income tax would be of larger amount than in say hien
year% and the boards were to be thrown for repayment en
1862 end 1863. If they could not Rifled reps pest sew,
what would be their position at that time ? No doubt, as
3,o47with the present year, there would be a pin of
00011. through the falling in of the g k annuities,
which might count for 2,000,0001., and the additional tear
Hon now proposed by the right hon. gentleman. But whet
would have happened on the other side P The inmtse ten
amid have entirely ceased, amounting to more thin
8,000,0001., and then rime in 1862 and 1883 they would be in
a worm position than they were at present by 8.4100.0001., end
yet it was part of this, arrangement to peaapene the
debt of the present year for the purpose of Nrswinß it at
years which would be lees able to bear the burden. Whim-
geed to the primal of the right hon. gentlest= to toy en
Mcreesed duty on spirits, he thought that wee a
which almost every member of that house would
suphe port ; and he must do Irish members the justice of as
that thought they had onl offered that quablisd degribmpT
eppoatdon which wee n y expected from these who VIM
the nptementalism of the slater ulnas,glds (Cheers.) Aerie-
the proposed atatitip duty on &epee, everybody
must ages that to a Chancellor or the Exchequer it was a
very inviting subject of taxation, especially as the tax on
receipts had been so successful, and he was not at all cur-
piped that the proposal had teen made. They
were all aware, however, that Uwe wee considerable Te-
legram to the proposal of a tax en receipts, and
he, for one, should not be much astonished if this part of the
government proposal did sot eventually become law. On
the whole, he was very happy to concur in that proposal ; but
V his voice had been likely to have any tnetteace in the mat-
ter, he should have reimemeaded the bolder course of taking
en additional twopence for one year from the income tax,
1/blth weld have 'welshed 2,000,0001. to liquidate these
2,000,1100( of toed,. Ile thought that would have been a
much more straightforward course; end he believed it would
have reordered much more certain the toil termination of
the income tax at the period at which it was proposed that
it should become extinct.
ble. SASS eppetosed ol the proposed stamp ripen cheques.
Mr. WILLIAMS protested -against increaving the na-
tional debt in time of peat" bat if they were to have new
tars those Pr"ro ed wen as tittle objectionable as any.
Sir F. BARING agreed that the only way of extinguish-
ing the inmate:tea was by redeolag the expenditure.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL Hafted that co further expen-
diture could be now °anted oat toped that already
hy the gomreorat. He a peovd of the eq of
the duties ca spirits, sad did sot believe that the lan ea
cheques would be es euibarraming to business se was alp-
posed. He =Walla that It would have tom a geed
*sample if they bad pfd Mt some part of the debt Ineernd
during the war.

Mr. 'WHIT!? thought their minds might be claire tranquil
with regard to the coot of the war wlth Cbiaa. Ia the car
of the late war the Chinese paid 21,000,0001. with tom
foellity, and, ander proper arraagernente, there wo,a2
etyma facility in the wisest of the impanel) of the prosiest
war.

This CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER repiled,
essisiderlug the repsynaeut of the Exchequer Bonds they
should have men neo is the ineregulog prooperity of the
tumitry. He felt stirs that the Irish members would not,
elt rodestios, object to tits Lammed spirit duties. The Us-