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Tide will anent ter my dberegeney there may be in the
knees Si osspsred with former Matemente The aabee
nude a arta% estimate in Apell, bed sea that a mstertil
allsratka has been made by a despatch of the 141 h of ilire4l.`
I menet nature to go %to a very necks statement-1 will
deal with the ended hi round numbers. Another,
Pent le, that In make, the estimate I will always take
the rupee at two &Mien ; it was kenerly taken sometimes
et
la. 100., but the noble lord directed it should hairoskrth
be always taken at 2a. Ma may produce • alight disco.-
Many In some et my figures, and I therefore wren the com-
mittee beforehand. I will take, sir, for comps:hoe, the hat
ftheadal 'mount which Ism been printed and dietrihnted to
! the home, that for the year ending the 30th of April, 1867.
nit will edged a good anbiect of comparison (se it was the
last complete year of poem the mutiny have/
ketkal eat in May. 1868), and I will take it
ea y starting point with the committee. At
that time the debt of India was 69,482,0001., the anneal
interest 2,626,0001. The militaryexpenditurewas 12681,0001,
of which 12,1980001. was the ordinary, and 366,0001. the
ennonlinan expenditure of the year. That was the state
of Minn. From the year 18674 the expenditure consider-
ately exceeded the income. la that year the expenditure
ermaboat 40,
um 228,0004 exchishe et a ism of 'Meng on the
nan s d c rot, sad the revenue wee 31,708,00 W., leaving •
deidt of 8,620,0001. Is the sect yam, 1868.9 (the house
ea bar In Wed that the Indian financial year expires on
the 386 April), the sepsneiture amounted to 48,9711,0001.,
. am/ themeless to 32,1100,00 W., Wag • &licit of 14,00Q0001.,
.arthireatiliata The /dolt for the two years to I
have lest referred, thinks', antoested in the whole to
Thai &holt wee provided far by • loan; we
112111tleted fa India in 1857-8, 6,167,0001., and in
the year 18684, 6,981,8001., making for the two years
satiVi 10./66,0001. bonneted in India. We borrowed in
tth peer 18674. 4,768.0001. ; n sin yen
F-B,7o3,oool.—making for the two years a total bor-
-1".11 Aullind of 11,662,0001. The knee will see that
the Istal amount borrowed was 22,118,0001. Then is made
up !ry the &Menthe of balances op to this time • sum of
1,103,0301. The sem ask up by the din:denim of balsam
and Me amen raised en leas together make up the de-
cked= to which I have referred. This is the Mate of
thistle up te the 30th Aril hat. Oa the 30th April last the
than debt amounted to 31,68i,0001., the hewed on which
was • sem of 3,68401001. I sow cone to the year 1869-60.
Boes members who may have in their hand, the dispatches
lately pieced hire the house, will see thee
a paw entalabig astlesates tor 185940. fhtb-
ensuat, 'however, to this a farther statement ham tem
made eat, and • rough eadreate will Mao be found amongst
the ppm I propose so exclude from our conikeration •
greet deal which Is le that account, teams that account Is
not me of menus and expenditure only, but It contains
tehmes as the one side and the other. The expenditure
in India I imamate at 38,280,0001. ; It • in the account
as 88,900,0001. ; out then that gine t for storei on the
ogee; elk, la respect of which it takes credit en
the other, en account of their being In this country.
The charge then for India, exclusive of these stores, but in-
cluding the payment of the Tanjore debt, mounts to
38,340,0001., and the Mune at home, including war Mores,
amount to 6,861,0001. I then take a sum which la • large
sum, viz., the Interest of the railway capital paid into the
treesary, tth interest on which is • thug* on the Indian re.
ensue, and I fled its amount to be 1,114,00 W. Of this we
expect to receive am revenue of the railway slisady finished
thews of 200,0081. in the nouneof the year, which will leave
the sum of 900,0004 as the teal charge on the government.
I will text add the charge to which the Done lord on • former
occasion referred. Ma., the charm In coneideration of mann-
anion for tomes during the lodise matinee. With %garde)
the greater portion of clime on tele soanmt officers timeline
appointed to investigate thins. A report had been received
from these officers—in it. nature only a prima facie report—
for as to many china no evidence was sent. I most my that
I cannot admit those claims for compensation as a matter of
!len. Inmany distntheno!no oomprnatio! thei

fleetly indiepamabis to maiemm a larger European force in
ladle than we have hitherto kept up. I have no doubt that
the reduced European force in Indisoperated as anserourege-
meat to the native troops in the late unhappy mutiny. It
bee been mid by Sir J. Lawrence, than whom I know no
higher authority, that the mutiny which has taken place was
sefireiy • military mutiny, though in some plasm it was
dimmed' taken advantage of by disaffected patrons. I think,
however, it is a very satiefictory thing to find that, with the
exceptions of the Province of Oude, and some sur-
reandisi territory, the inhabitants of Indiatook no
pert is the mutiny. Even there, I think, the pert which the
elsatook was to be explained by the face that the
sseard in it were mainly drawn from them. Sir J.
aurae he believes the late mutiny arose moiety
Item the swami= cm the part of the natives that attacks
were be be snide on their religious ceremonial" and belief.
them that we learn, I think, that we must not give to the
Intim el India any neon to believe that we on about to
Week aces religious feelings or prejudthee which they
hold so deer. (Cheers.) We must consult not orgy the in-
' Ilenna but the feelings of the people. If we have •
almaliani prides we shall require • less force.
Whiny. • naive lee wee present there was dieturbanoe ;
where there we. seen time was tranquillity. If we can re-
duce the army, the. anus MOOD teatime, and in reducing
taxation we shell be asking the hest security for the future
content of the kingdom. DM to what extent reduction may
be carried it is not veep seey te sekelate, end the different
estimates we have received only show bow oaken are the
opinion' on this imporlett subject. Much light is thrown
upon it, however, in a pacer which her been transmitted to
us by Mr. Bartle Preys, the Commissioner of
Saluda. (The right hon. baronet here read the
paper at aloe length. The purport of it was
that the question of the amount of fora to be reethred In
India was after all a question of thaws, es it would be he-
parable to retain the country with any arm' however large,
which was obliged to be maintained with borrowed money.
The first point to be pined was to get our expenditure within
our income, altar which, what with our vast naval, mecha-
nical, and ther reasumesethe preservation of tranquillity in
India would be • problem of easy solution.) This I contend
is the principle upon which we must proceed, to take are to
keep? • contented population, and :not to maintain an army
of such an amount as can only be provided for by
a continued series of loans. (Hear, beer.) The necessity of
reduction in expenditure has already been enforced epos the
Indian authorities in various despatches written by the noble
lord opposite. In one he cautions them against entering into
any expenditure which is not absolutely seosseary. adding
that they mast not only consider their necessity, but their
expediency, at that particular tiros. It is obvious, says the
noble lord, that some reduction must be made in the
military expenditure, which amounts to some twenty
million' annually. The suggestions of the noble lord
were at once attended to, end it was intended
early in the year to send ten regiments home. Recent events
have, however, rendered it imperative that a ;ration of that
force should be retained in the country, but still I be-
lieve about eight have been ant, and in now on their way
home. The militaty expenditure of India before the mutiny
was twelve millions annually, and it is now twenty-one
millions, making nine millions increme. It is there-
fore upon these nine millions that a reduction
may us expected, and although it cannot be
reduced to the figure at which it stood before the
mutiny, it is obvious that even leaving • considerable margin
there is still • good deal of room for reduction. Three or
foes millions at least I think may be looked for, but es the
operation cannot be tarried out until the Queen's troops have
been sent home, it is impossible to fix a time at which the
redaction may be expected. Even the transport of these
troops would cause expense to be set against reduction. bat
then, on the other band, ninth will be saved by our arias
to move them up end down within the country. All I can
promise is that the utmost care shill be taken to may oat
the reductions with the greatest possible expedition. (Hear.)
With regard to the revenue, the Indian government has
made a proposal to rase the salt duty in Mediae and BM-
bey, it being already sufficiently high in Bengal. We have
sot heard to what extent it is proposed to be ratted, but the
probable gain to the revenue is estimated at 300,0001. Tbe
government has also undertaken to consider other duties,
aid instructions have been sent out from hams
to charge additional duties on stamps, Hosea@ to
hawkers, and on succemiens, bet no estimate has
as yet been received as to the probable pin to be delved
from these somas—l have no doubt it will be several hun-
dred tholes:id pounds. Bet when we have done all wem
sibly can there will still be a conaderable deficiency ar
roust be provided for by parliament next year. It may be
roux or five, or perhaps six. millions, end a similar result may
be expected foe still another year. I doubt whether in two
years it will be poasible to bring exparditare within income,
and until that is dons the revalue must beesaisted by borrowed
money. The Tanjore am wilt not year be huffily extin-
guished, and the profits of the railways will, I hops, tend to
diminish debt in that direction, but how soon that may take
place it is not for me to say. On tha whole, lem afraid we
cannot expect to clam the account of the mutiny without
allowing the debt of India to have been increased to one
hundred million.. (Hear' hear.) No doubt • considerable
raving might be effected if this country would consent
to sesta the finances of India. (Hear, hear.) lan not going
to make any proposal to that effect, but circumstances may
arise when this may be • very sr rious subject for this house
to eonsider. The noble lord hinted at the probability of such
• request early in the year, and when I look, and the house
looks, at the circumstances 1 have stated tonight, it is not
possible that we should shut our eyes to the fact that if we do
sot mean to lose our Indian empire we must be prepared ul-
timately to twist the finances of that country. In the meantime
reams must be adopted to put Indian finance under a better
system. In this country, my right hon. friend at once finds
the mans and superintends the expenditure, whilst in India
revenue and expenditure are kept wholly separate. The party
who expends, if the revenue proves deficient, draws upon
England, and the authorities who collect the revenue has
no power to interfere. There could not possibly be a more
fruitful seamed irregularity, and therefore I think it would
be edvaatageous If some person well versed in the financial
system of this annul, and our modes of raising money,
and of spending it, wen vent oat to India. It is therefore
the Intention of the government to select some anon and
send him to India to take charge of Os revenue end finance.
and I treat thermal& will be to produce • hatter system of
administration than that which is at present pursued. If
this be done, and if we can meet the pressure of the next two
or three year, I have little fear of the revenue, because it is
a remarkable fact that the revalues at India have risen in
spite of recent events. In 1868, a year of peace, the revenue
of ladle produced 31,700,000 L, end Who subsequent year,
when the mutiny broke our, it produced exactly the ease sum.
In 1858.59 it was 33,800,0004, being two millions more
than in the lea year of peace; and for the present year the
estimated revenue is 36,850,0001. There is an increase in
four yaws of no lees than tour minim.. This, I think.
ought to give one great confidence respecting the future of
India. (Hear, bear.) Previous to 1867, each year
had been one of annexation, and although each annexed
state brought an increase of revenue, the charge always ex-
ceeded the increase. Since 1867 there was no summation,
and this year there le an increase in the revenue of about
four millirem. (Hear, bear.) Some of my friends near so
will be glad to hear how the export of oaten from India Me
increased. Up to 1863 the annual Ramp was 116,000,00016 x,
but for the fist five years it was 176,000,000 Ida., being an
iIICTOUPO of 611 per not, the amount sent last yew ex-
ceeding the impolite of the whole of the four previous
years. (Herr' hear.) If that be the ma', I do not think we
need despair of India, over many parts of which the late
calamity passed beaky, midis a large portion was left en-
tirely untouched. The difficulties of the country are only
temporary difficulties, caused by eyelets which no one could
control, and when they have passed away I do not see why
India should not mums the course of prosperity which
was only interrupted by the late calamity. The motion
which I have, sir, to put in your Meads, is to ask for power
to enable me to raise in this country* sum fie the service of
the government of India of not less than five mil lone, in ad •
dttlon to the portion of the late loan which still remains un-
issued. That will enable us to meet all demands tor the
present year ; and, with respect to the future, we must wait
mill the lime comes. I have already stated my fear that
one or two years have yet to be passed before
we get revenue to exceed expenditure ; but after
that I expect that the finances of India will
he placed Is a more satisfactory position. I don't want all
this mosey at owe* we shall sue draw it all until April next;
but I feel that I siould be acting unwisely did I not take
power atiffialest to carry me over the whole year. The right
Ma. lamest oxicludad by handing his resolution to the
chanties.

The CHANCELLOR of the WWI:MUER had ode a
previous evening stated It was the Intention of the govern-
ment to ouppend 'aurally all proceedings with roped to
packet contracts until the oosandttee had ea opprtimity of
considering the subject. They entertained a aiwl4r intention
with regard to telegraphic contract.; but it was possible efr-
musebaose might arise vase which as ezeoptiaa should be
made. There was one cue In yid= 124 menu-
Mating of the cable had commenced before the present
administration mute into office, sod which would go on.
flomeelaing would depend on the time occupied by the com-
mittee to their Inquiry, but as a general rule, so far as the
were able to do so, no further proceedings would

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13tr 0. OBEY append the entendmint TM committee
had not reported that extensive bribmy had existed at Dart-
mouth, and, it the home should be of opinion that the com-
mittee were wrong, it was powerless in the matter.
Mr. LEFROY, the chairman of the committee, stated the
nature of the case presented to them.
Etter a short discussion, in which Mr. Bouverie, Loyd
Fermoy, end Mr. Whiteside took part, the amendment wil
wbhdrawn, and the motion was %rem to.
loam was given to bring in certain Lille, and, the remain-
ing bestows Mei( bees disposed of, the bones adjourned at
belt-pant 1 delete.

ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION BILL.
The cedar for the camoninal of this bill was disc/urged.
THE ROYAL HIBERNIAN ACADEMY.
Mr. MAGUIRE mind the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether any end what stem had been taken to elfeet certain
neon= I. the adminiatratica of the Royal Hibernian
Aesisray. and why there woono vote in the estimates this
year ler the Academy.
Mr. CARDWELL said the report of Mr. MacLeod re-
commended that the schools of the Royal Mbar:data Aca-
demy should be untied to those of the Royal Dublin Society.
That since bed been dime. A correspondence then took place
between the Academy mad the government in ',fermi» to the
continuance of the grant for other pouters. The Academy
weed fee 6001. The government were willing to give only
3001. No coachwion had been arrived at, end therefore no
vote wee proposed in the estimates.
EAST INDIA LOAN.
The Deese then went into committee.
Sir C. WOOD raid—lt has often been my duty to
address the house on quo.tiona of great public
importance, sad more than once on the subject of India,
but I confess I never addressed it wider feelings of such deep
reeponsibdity as those under which I now rise to bring under
the notice of the committee the state of lodic with regard to
its thasnose. I do not think the hon. member for Birming-
ham overstated the impotence of the question when he told
us it was wend, or hardly second, to none of them great
subjects of dimwit and foreign policy which have occupied
oar attention during the last few months. When we coast-
der not only the imminence of ladle to England. but atm
the millions in that country now under the
away of the British sovereign, with regard to
whom we have undertaken the solemn duty of providing
them with good movement, it is not possible to overrate
the task Imposed on the government and parliament of this
country. It Is not my MOM es the past occasion to p
into the general gumption with regard to the yellers and the
state of India—the mate of Its finances, and its lamelel
peahlma an grave enough to occupy the attention of the go-
vernment and of parliament, Certainly, no reeposaileffity
tome gram was ever imposed epos the government end par-
liament of this country, and it will need all the wisdom
and all the energy which the government can bring to'
its consideration, and they will legatee all the aid and
support, which I doubt not they will receive from parliament,
in dealing with a question of such vital Importance. It
1 Oct necessary for me to remind the committee of what
vital Importance to all countries la the state of their finance*.
If the financial state be good, there are no dangers she may
not coofidently face ; tlthe financial mate be bad, there are
few Mogen she ceo hops diotually to overcome. The
financial state of India is to us a suiject of the most anxious
consideration. In saying that, however, I am not to
be understood as saying that her future maven are in
my opinion gloomy and hopeless. I cooline my statement
to the pement time, when she has not yet recovered from the
effects of en overwhelming and unforeseen calamity. If abe
surmounts the difficulties of the next two or three years, I
we no reason why she should not be restored to the state of
prosperity, material and Scandal, she was in before the
notony. I me no reason to anticipate that the will not be
to-cored to the state in which it woe my god fortune to leave
her when 1 quitted the cake of President of the Board of
Control. It is about four years and a half Wine I
held the office, substantially that of the Indian ministry,
and a more grave and more melancholy contrast there coucd
not exist than I found between the state in which I left India
and that to which I returned. At the time I held office before,
we had closed the career of war and conquest, maternal con-
fidence prevailed in the army, it was felt by everyone, and
those lost acquainted with its offices would have an-
swered for it with their lives; we had a surplus re-
venue, and our only object was to improve the
natant resources of the country, to devise an
improved minus of education, a better administration diva-
toce, and by the more rapid progress of regrown, by the ea-
thanes of the electric telegraph, by the Improvement of the
emigation of the riven, and of the mane of irrigation, to
being out the resources which India so abundantly pommel;
and make them sources of wealth, not only to Mnelf, bat
Mao by the production of raw materials to rapport the wee-
lecturer of this country. Since that tires, the whirlwind
of satin has exept over the land, marking its course with
murder and bloodshed. Confidence lam hem destroyed; the
trusted army lass proved untaithful ; *Ale works have been
checked ; financial difficulties have gees en hemming, end
new ones have mime it Chin the hi tar mac To this I
grieve I must add disaffectit n, and from the accounts to-day
I Mr I meat say mutiny amongst one portion of the Ea-
raper troop. Three, sir, we tfficalthe grave indeed, sad •
to grapple with them will require the most rueful midden,
don en the pert of government end of par-
liament I do not, air, intend on the moan
Oteleke to go bet end the financial piettion of
ladle. At the early period of the year the noble lord the
lase Secretary for India weutat considerable length into the
metal mates commend with the state of that country, led
cecolderier not °Lily the Importance but the 'esteem of the
subject, I think I rhall beet consult the 'richer. of the home
end matte them to form a clear jadgmeut on the quaint
of finance, by abstaining from going Into maritime that
sheeted with material f. r incusalcmand on which I ceenot now
throw any additional light. When the noble lord made his
Matinees at eta early ported of tterression. t e neorwerily spite
Gem imperfect inforrestioa ; since then we havereceivtd further
infonestion with regard to the finances of India, but if he than
maggermed rte evil, the accounts since received present me
wiry pemlelareeptet foe the ern year or two at least. I
have lid en the labia every dispatch I have received. Ile
informttime Me boas withheld from this heaps ; all the
peen mete printed sad delivered lest Timothy, except
she rarest snort up to April, 1868, width has not yet
been aimed_ I think the been I. to panto
Nes et all the Warman I ea able to piece
More K. I will, sir, caly wake me observation before
I premed to place the drum before the committee.
They must remember it was perfectly imposing' to arrive at
great preeisten with regard to the sums. Since April, lithS,
ell the same I will taco to refer to ate mettles net of accomet,
hat of aellara--estintates aptiable to the pant pea.

brio ellowedi:ittesigh in others each en allowano; has so doubt
boss needs, a a wader of favour as distinguished hots a
matter aright. The view which the government takes of
the question is this particular mei. that a &eduction should
he team between properly whidt could not and that which
could have been removed out of harm's way. In the forme
case we have fined the compenestio• se at ono-half the value,
sad in the latter at one-third the estimated worth. I have
ahead the Emmet at 300,0004; but, presuming that there
may be yet some claims to he !nought in, I think it right to
fix a margin, end I therefore at this darn as at 1,000,0001.
Addles this to the itmes via& I bap already sated, the
expenditure for the year 113119-00 will mount to
the sum of 40,131,6001. QNL rand to the amaze, this
she Is stated in the pater to which I have already referred,
which Amp it at 33,1160,111901., which includes the
ems estimated to be tubed from the additimal taxes
attslets %Ow. Ws. twgewid. know UM coosidemble
oh-
jection has been takes to the increase of esteem
duties, and complaint has especially been made In
Calcutta on that heed. lem not one of theme who approve
of any Mercies of the customs dialer, but it wee essential
to the government of India to have matey, and it wee
smeary to obtain it at once, Under soca circumstances
there was no coarse FO expedient to take as that of increas-
ing the customs. Hence, however much I may direent
from the mode, I cannot, under the circumenume, but acres
that the pressure a "yenta justified the course taken. The
other item it ineassed revenue whom the duty on opium.
This duty hot been increased is Bombay from 400 to 500
rupees pee chest. These are the only increased duties for
which I have to aoconst. The produce of the revenue in
India for the pram year le, as I have said, 36,850,0001,
and deducting that from the increased expendi-
ture, it leaves a deficiency of 10,250,0901. I am
afraid that beyond that there may be a further sum. In
consequence of what has taken plea in India we have not
been able to push the railways on to speedily u we could
wish, or so tastes we should, but for the circumstance' to
which I have alluded, have ben justified by the mom, of
capital. The expenditure kr the; railways there for the
following year Is estimated at 8,000,0001., and the amount
which has to be raised for them will be 6,000,0001. Tbie
will leave a balance to be provided toe of 2,000,0001. ; end
this, together with the deficit I have already maimed. with
a small margin for contingencies, will make a total deficit of
12.600,0001. Then come the question, bow am Ito provide
this sum? Now, by the accounts to chid I have referred,
the hones will as. that the Indian government expect still
300,0004 has the old Five per Cent. Loan. Of that they
have, since the mama were made out, received 276,0001.
The lodes government also have to receive of the Five-
end-a-Hali per Coat. Leen, 6,600,0001. ; but from the beet in-
formation which I am obtain I sm afraid they will not
maitre anything like that sum. I hope, however, that the in-
creased confidence which now prevail. will be of advantagein
India to our Eamon, and that the sum of 2,000,0001. which
I have reckonedos receivable on this head will sot turn out as
too high a knee. The noble lord also borrowed the sum of
7,000,0001. in the early pert of the year. Of this 6,000,0001.
bad been lamed producing a sum at 4,800,0001. Adding this
to the 2,000,0001. I hope to receive from the India ken
the produce well be 6,800,0001., and deducting this from the
deficit I have before stated, we have a um of 5,700,0001.
It is impartible for me to say at what price I Mall
be able to reins this amount by loan. The late administra-
tion mired their loan at 9U. I tenet that at the ;meant time
the money market may be found liberally dhpoeed towards
India. However that may he, I must take a considembh
margin, and I propose to take a margin from 6,700,0001. to
7,000,0001. I propose, therefore, to issue the 2,000,0004 left
shamed by the noble lord, sad to take a power of lassie
6.000,0001.--this bill make up the smonat to 7,000,0001. I
shell then, I hope. be able to meet the expenditure of
the by this loon. At the end of the year the
Idfis debt will amount to 95,836,0001., the in-
vest ef which will be the sum of 3,900,000!. I might
here lion my etatemaut, bat Ido not think it fair to the
bows to do no. I think It right to state what the prospects
of the ensuing year will be. In the came of ant year It
will be mastery to provide for the increased expenditure
ceased by the interest on the present loan. I thak there-
fore, it well nut he partible to paths expetalture at lea than
40,0c0,00ut. Taking the revenue at the sum which the addi-
tional luxation give., I thatch maybe placed at 36,000,0001.,
which will leave a deficiency of 10,000,0001. to be reduced by
the reduction of expenditure or by Increase of taxation. The
house will, I em sure, agree with me. that it la indispensably
necessary that tae deficiency should be mot by decreasing the
expenditure in every possible way. Any natation must.
however, depend necessarily on the state of India. It
is helm Impossible to lay what the reduction
nay be. The reduction this year would hays beau
large had it not been for the disturbance amongst
the local troops, which rendered it necessary to
keep some of the European troops in ladle who would other-
War have returned home. Any estimate which I present to
the house most therefore be taken as subject to muniments
contingency which time may bring forth. Now the hest
item which pay be cossidera ameba of teased= Is the
amount exptaW for the civil service in Lats. I should des
calve the house if I held out to them thaiOny greet reductions
can be mode on this bead. Ido not think it jest or fair to
reduce the salaries of persons already in the service. (Hear,
hear.) Some retortion may perhaps be mode as new appoint-
ments taking place, but I ate amid that any reduction on
this score will be counterbalanced by the necessity to Increase
the number of European civil enema in lode. Thenext item
of expenditure is forpublir works In India. This la an item of
expenditure which I should be most awry to redacts; but I
think that some alteration may be made without stopping
More works which are of large mato utility. But, after
all, the greet item on which a saving may be made must be
In the military expenditure. (Cheers.) Now, the amount of
troops in India before the mutiny, ear, of Empalme3446A
and a natale,249,l63—makbag altogether upwwee
Comp. The amount of hoops at this sesesene la, ad
&lemma, 110,320, and of natives 207,765-em Means, a
66,000 European', and a datum of 42,0011 mama To
theme there is to be added a military pnlitoe fora of Ne 01
men. Taking thee., together with the Ism In
depots at home, the total army of lane Is
431,600. Now, I think that the day of
having pared the expensive system of not=
which was lately necessary, may now be reduced—(ktar)--
arid a reduction to some extent has been made already. Hos.
'asthma will, I Shah, aim with main this, that it is pot-

ELECTION COMMITTERS.-(MONDAY.)

AYLESBURY.
After the eonelasion of our yesterday's report,
Mr. Pour sidmeed the committee of greet length
eta the part of Mr. Wentworth.

After Mlle remarks from Mr. CRAWFORD,
Lord STANLEY recognized the difficulties by which the
Whin governotoat was boot. The ladle of 1869 differed
seerrially from the India of 1866, end years would proba-
bly elapse Wore all the traces of the late revolt were entirely
seated. Entering at large Into the financial qtaastioe, the
noble lord maintained that ao increase of taxation was
possible is India to any great amount —not more,
probably, then half a million a year—and exprosed
his drapprobati, n of the proposed to give an un-
rar'bgnarantee for the Indian debt. Nererthekee,
elieved that something in the nature of imperial
saristance to the Indian revenue would bt fore long become a
matter of naoreity. Why, indeed, he asked, should India
be required to pay the whole expnellture incurred in its dor
fates, while Mho' colonies were, to some extent, defended at
the oast of the home exchequer! Respecting retrenchment
be agreed that not much could be elected immediately, but
pointed out many ways for saving expenses in future, lug-
geetiag opecielly for this parlor, • larger employment of
natives in the deli woke of Inas.
Mr. BRIGHT believed that the Indian difficulty yea be-
coming annual), mere intraorkie. For twenty year.
the finances 6f that country had presented • chronic
Malt sad continually augmenting pile of debt. This fact
was in itself • proof that lbe asveriaist must be extrava-
=and bad. Much of this &Mtn" he admitted, unjustly
upon the Indian exchequer, the fifteen millions spent in
the Aff sheet war in particular befog exclusively required fur
a purpooe support.] to be imperial. At proem, he observed,
the whole net Minns of India me swallowed up by its