The Express.
London, England, 1856-12-05 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING. DECEMBER 5, 1056.

MR. COBDEN, M.P., AND OUR TORSION
POLICY.
The billowing introspectional. between Mr.
coma, M.P.. oat lb. J. Fookfres. of Inifose,
hos beat Illairuded is us (NspeAesr Examisow,), to,
pablksiles
°—
"8, Pietstr•st, Bradfaid, Nov. 220866.
Fir,—l eta directed by the Bredford Committee for

lavestigetieg State !drain, to sell year attentive to the
fact of tbo British squadron being to the Black flea, la
violation of the treaty of Pans.
" Bessie violates the treaty by sot wales Bolgrad and the
Isis of &meats; Austria violates it by the centisaaticet of
military forte in tea Peineipalities. It appears to as equally
obligatory oa all the contracting powers to obeerve the
Meth aose of theta being j estiflsa to siolatiag it.
•, We are well aware that the proteat advaased by ear
goverment i. miatiag the treaty is its violation by
Basis.

"If Ruda ranee to Mill her obligation It bosonae
the duty of the erainertlag powan not to violate their aa-
gagman' la return, but to take the legal wares of lofting
to hold diplomat's 'atomism with bet Rata mak 14/1011 as
abie is prepared to fulfil her oagagenants.
" We respeetfally sands to you the ntworaity of taking
steps, is you capacity is a member of paginate:it, to obtain
the (*Mann of the treaty by the govenneat of Magna&
sad likewise to thrown the goverment that it la theft duty to
aeon to their costran ; sad, when they ban done se, to
heist oa the other powers adhering to it alai tad, ia t►e
oust of their an doing so, to noel our anbaandon Ina
that nspoctin ociarts.-1 aa, dear air, year *bedfast w-
ant, " Joon% E. Jateannia, &entity.
"R. Cobden, Bag., M.P."

.4 Glys Garth, aver Burs, 3061 Nov. 1866.

1. 81r.—la repli to poor favour whielt-hae followed de to
tble tadpole. I set baud to coahL that I ad at a lose to tee
how I ees interfere teqpeetiag the affair of Belem& and the
Iforpeate' Used. Ultimo polkaed% be la ..scion, • twwwbor
of the Has.. of Condoms hr de bedside eppoodesity of
beagle, satin the mike of the Waldo, the date of
_ .

eer -for;tga relatleee. Thl. sea only -be does hi.
la the AM, adds( fee isferastioa; for the &w-
-ad state of the pubtle egad of this wintry le
es 'potties the meet peofeead of ell the pressed.
Lep of ear Pereletrallet. At this mast we its
*Attest say oftelsl lab:sake reepeotleg oar peewit rola-
time with Rawls. sad It would be ea intwerriatable taps-

in, if, spa the armed atheaticity of all we reed la
the patio j sum* a mesas of parliament ware to Wader
his num or arta to the fontra slaster.
" I do sot pregame to haw the praise °Waste of the
Braked Coaaltas kr lavestlauttag State Altars,' bat if
lu atteatios be sadly dlriatesi to oar forays relstioes, I
woad vesture to sunset that, tostead of wades its efforu
la the vacs attains to scrawl the thread of our forsiga
policy, it would ware wisely apply itself to the task of laying
doss as tatelligible ad boast I risseiple ea adds the is.
teresesee hawses this onatry aadother sodas ouskt lobe
mita es. Thews seems to ea to be algae of s groan as
victims that souse rostrata is a:diplomacy is aeossaary; sad
I do sot thick it world be Minh to fad amuses pawl
as which a lugs masa sf mgrs east fat a Mena of war
brags policy slight be seemed awe; au of every shade
of opialat ea domestic pats. At blest, I /abaft that

ova" as adesapt to defies the fanations of oar wannest
is its lereiss wakeless, would be $ non resins, Genoa
ties than tbo iatanninabie and hoiden task of • lavenkst,
tag. eats which an gesorally ekoodell Is mystify, and
width an too often referable to so ►igher prissiest or
motives of action this the stories of pwactieally Weapon.
tibia iadiviskek—l is. sir, raw oteedisat enema,

I' 1111711A1D CODDIUI.

" Joseph E. Jeakhises, Lg., Bocrittary, &a"

ELECTION.

Mr. Gard., a Wrists,. and a brother of Sir R.
Cordes, et Loaders, has issued ea address eammasiai btu.
self is a wiadfdate for the reprisestatiea et tise borough.
Se pelisses himself • liberal maservative.
Yr. Wapitis sad filr Edward Bailer are actively ma-
i ?masa daily.
About 600 dieters hays signed a requisition alibi' ea
liteliard Andrews to beams a candidate. As eon se
he gets 1,000 &seaters. be will anaemic, himself a ma.

The chief advisers of Mr. Bawls Junes &Ware But he
has net resigned, sad that he will cot mica his proteasloas
to repressat the borough. Be was expiated at Elouthang_
taa lasi sight. Bo has was golden *Oakes far the defames
of the liberty of tits pries I. the sass of " Load Lades. the
Daily Nam"

TM almost political szaltasesat prevails at prima I. es
lowa.

PROPOBRD LOAN OF FOUR MILLIONS
FOR Till 11STROPOLITAN SOARD OF
WORE&

DIPOTATION TO THB

111 Or TM

xxcazcluza.
Testetday, afternoon, at 3 o'eloek, a &peak°
from awe Yeiropotitaa Baud of Works Initial alma the
Chaseslloy of the Bacheirser (who was soconiyaaisd by Mr
Bargainla Hall, the First Commissioner of Works), at his
°Mobil madame ia Domains street. The dapotatioa sea-
Maud of Mr. J. Throats. (the sitairman), Mr. Woolrych
(the maretary), Major Lye., Mr. Drpety Harrhem, and
Messrs. Carpmael, Savage, Deltas, Boysoa, Ware, Cnllia,
sad Offer.

Mr. TRWAI2IIII, the eltahnuan of the Metropolitan Bawd
of Works, hay.ng latrodueed the deputation, said that they
were ow troubling the Chasesllor of the Bachecuer for
the mend tinge, hut they trusted that the iasportaaoe of
the subject would be a suesisat masa. They were

ea:Muto brie; ander his settee the borrowing powers
of the board, eo as to @sable skim to carry oat the works
required by the set et parliament. The borrow's( powers
ander the Metropolis Load Maingemest het, by whisk'
they could rate the metropolis, were limited to obtaioing
money from tonnage Wine ; bat there was some thilealty
la this, for by the ematltatioa of many of those taear•
'ace companies they were unable to lend mousy oa say
other than real enmity ; and therefore the board had as

UAW of raisin the lainel required. Though it would be
May for the porpoise of the Oct that a large ma of
mousy should be raised, they had no bops of obtainies it
from soy of the lustrous Aloes; or if obtained at all, it
seat be ate very heavy rate of interest, sad enesquently
seat be paid by a heavy rate upon the people of London.
It was true that pewees were given to the Counitaissera

for Public Week;, natter the 13th sad litlt Vie., 4. 23,
to Mosses Moms for the purpose, of the set;

bat their power were hailed to as armee
of 90.0101. per quarter, or ea arum! ran of
360.0001., sad whit wash a lists the board had no hope
et obtaining Ma the sentaimaiesus the .seat required.
He had balm peleesil eat that, is hie opinion, the peers-
num min re seeleihnis eernethiss He the pales pane
toe large ettsetneel wed, Mr the inporrenteat eerie au.
trepolle, ladepeeinalip el way sedeninee taw night give
the beard is estesiies thole betreirfai pew,. That was
a question epos whisk be had a very is.. egisies, believ-
ing that k was the dung et the premien* to contribute
the salient! tent towards tatiweel Improvements.
. .

aeteMg that vide fig no prewar, the board, in-the position
la whisk they head thems,lwee, thought it was the duty
oldie severnanat to reader them some usitnee, sad by
lospenier their borrowing powers, to advance the as
they required, taking for wearily the rata en the mostrepo-
lie, which would be ample for all the purposes hienind.
The ma that would be requisite for the saki annoy
works and the minas of the done sad lia-
bilities of the late Cosassirsloac no of &wen would probably
amount to about four million storing. It had snack the
board that if the 'ornament wen prepared to borrow one
million a-year for four parr, taking the security of the rates,
and the repayment to be spread over a period of 60 peon,
that would enable the hoard to *any oa their works of main
drainage, to pay off the debts of the late commission, and to
sorry en other metropolitan improvements which were ra-
gaited. At the porn moment &tonne works were the
mat essential, but the board bad sic been strongly pressed
on the question of the furmation of parks. for it was the
opinion of many panne that, with the large eaten of build-
ing which was construatly tiding pine Ia London, and the
largely Imo sang population, in • few yeen, if mem were
not taken to preserve open specie, by which the lekahltants
of that great city maid obtain tresb sir, and • free circula-
tion of it through their streets, it would not be possible to
' seiy what weight be the oasts ea the health of the people.
The board were therefore sailed upon to provide
these parks for the recreation of the people,
enlist% would now be a question of economy,
lie if the matter were defined latch longer the
net of the parks would be isereased, as the whole of the
roved would eon be covered by hal/dial erections. There
were other matters which had been strongly premed upon
the attention of the board, and which they bad been anznon
Weeny nit for the implement of Leaden; bat they were
Ilmind es to the mesas, eves for the male drainage works,
to carry oat sad atimEisto whine a period speeded in the
set of prnismosat. The memben naturally turned their
spondee Ind to the male drainage works, end their desire
wee to obtaia the money on the realest tents for that put
pose ; bat the board raid never hope to retry out all the
impronomeate reqeired for the metropolis vases they
°brined aseistacce fres government. They could not ten
thereto payers of London to the gaunt of millions for o.r.
toying oat those objects, umbra they obtained that assistance
from the 'nommen, so that the charge might be spread
over a large ember of yean; and be did sot hesitate to say
that the present iallabitants of London ought sot V.
bear the whole of the expense of benefits which
fauns inhabiteab would share, and townie the te-
peese of which they should boar their due share and
proportion. He bad made a ealealatiou that if the garden-
meet acceded to their wish, sad enabled them to borrow
tear mailings strings le be nisei by four annual payments
of one man, by epoundlsg the shares over a period of 60
peen, then niche, the prawn tunable value of the property
in the metropolis, whin was naming nasally, at
11,460,0001., the rate for the area which was subject to their
tuition would be ssl. la the pound, which would entirely
repay the iwornet sad prime* of the sum required for
then works la 60 years.
The Clunottum of the Excasuosi—How oath
would • penny rate produce ?
Mr. TZWAllllll—Abut 60,0001.
The Ciamonion of the EXCIIIQUXR—You spook of
the amount required ea four millions. Do you oak the
government to raise the money, or to give you a gametes
fcr the lona of the neer, ?
Mr. TllWAtile—That was a question which the board
would leave suWed to the opiates of the governmeat. The
board considered that the government might borrow the
mosey on the best terms, toting so enerity the ram to re-
pay the erns as they might fall due, the pw•tureost
borrowing the mossy sad leading it to them on the alas
terms se One en whisk it wao borrowed.
The CIANCOLLI.OI of the EXClightria—Tbat Is sot the

prOriesl;iihlis7tgswerssaes tiTirre;P;Wie odvitieese for
public works, ths sun shamed being 6 per cent.
Mr. Tawurrsa—W. think Om we ought to ask the go.
vermeil for their oestribitios to weeks for a tiniestl
ablest, sad that they esitht to glee as thole radii to suable
se to raise the nosey, giviog then ample seoarity Ise its re.
paymorit, sad we aloe VISA we alight to base the advaatage
of the saws terns as time as shies the mosey is bemired.
The CIIANOILLOR 111 EICHIQI7III—W hat have you
to pay out of it besides the elms* for the web. drainage
Mr. Tswsuse —About 400,0001. or 600,0001., the debts
sad liabilities of the late Comaissiosers of Sewers. That Is
a debt of old stand's*, and was bladed over is 1818, whoa
the sosselidaties of Sewer Coessotious took place.
Tb. Csosomos ef tl ZIOILIQUIM—Row stash do
yes reqair* for the nolo driftage sobs., ?
Uf. TawAnse—About Chace 11111U016, 111 fez se we as
eoucoraed. . .

NCILLOS of the IthCRWACII.—And bow meek
for pubs are other meetropolitaa improvement;?
Mr. 1 a wursa—We shall require 600,0001. for • new
street is Ileathwerk, sad half sonnies for parks.
The Cuaticia.unt of the ?Mammas—How do you
pro poes to rise that?
Mr. Tawkrotte—Bp way of lota to the first instants.
Sir Banisinn BALS.—isle, but towards that there is
190.000 r already la head.
The Casio:rum of the EXCiltgelli—D, you Wok,
seder the borneriag simnel vie Metropolis Leon Mugge.
meet Act, you have power to min half a salines of mosey ?
Mr. Tawarms—We take 600,0001., bat with • margin,
to rouble as to deal with parks and sew streets.
Sir Blretailld HALL said that there was about 200,0001.
la head towards the Semiotics of aim strestu.
The CIAXCIILOS of the Excavates—TU*7os reckon
es paying tour sullies. fa 60 rem, a fiftieth put every
year. That will be about 200,0001. • year for Me sinking
toad sad lotuses.
Mr. TaWAtTIS—It will sot be eo mach, as the interest
will diminish every year.
The CILUMILLOS et the Szoatinna.—You soy that
the totes would be eseelirat rarity, sad I have so desist
whatever that she property of Load's is adequate security
foe the outlay ; hot we nut 10,4 sot sly to property, but
to the awe you have of Myles this tar. Suppose for •
likensat that these drainage works were .acted, sad that
the ornate was to he home by the people of Landis., • new
beard sight be Meted is some tea years been who sight
hem delimit views, melded's that so improper num
had bees immured fee times ;works, aid night Wen to
make • rate; in what naditios would the goverammt be
la such a ewe ?
Mr. Ts warns—l apprehend Megavitamin would Ms
pewees teeniest the sale.
The Csanosiwa of the Exossauss—How odd the
seeerserest compel the payment of the rate ?
Mr. Tswatras —The pireraidOnt night take proems
by • essminswe sad Gospel tee atskieg of • rate, supposing
it possible that sash • state of Utley maid ever arise.
The Catamarans of the Exoteric's—Sun admitting
that argamat, Y shah powers should be takes, it would go
far le is vadat, lb" eassriry.
Mr. Tawarres—There wield be se **des ea the put
of the beard, by the lures •
meaty Mime. be gin the go-
neaseat way eseseity tee the *deem m *deemed by re-
ain% and Yhe able to ay the ran theameins, it seek •
side ed this, sheen ever ales.
The CiAlleiLLOI of the ItIOMINIONZ remarked that tbe
=a t was is the habit of landing nosey to psblis
still they neat leek to all peedble esathigeseles.
They dies lent money to wind* usiberstes sad bserdsed
mai seem Eddy eeeediag PK et
seslhetW metal itb * O seek as WL(
werkbesses. lwaseis stra, and irlSsYwe of a @hailer
diersalsr. whisk limey was ens moll Is.. the misty
NOM bet oboe Oho, tees to winless to be Messed to a
body, where than was *very denier of a "haw
d K was that they should look to a
greats/ is the see/Nei
Mr. Tarrant( NOM ilma, with rehrosse to the messy
borrowed foe Near geepeole, the as.. they asked was not
is maths dm Set td whisk the eseatiee were Wag.

The questiem maly wee the large anoint of property they
would have to ten, amosaliag only to kid. Is the rend,
heed tm emit set Milne Ilu than would aver be such •
*MB the elesperree of London as to repudiate • dela
The Cmanumefiau of as EZolll4lllft—That is a qua-
drat whisk may who.
Mr. Tawurue—l tide& that never can occur, as the
goverment have • veto urn all oar plans ; sad, with
respect to the maim drainer, Bir B. Hall hat stated that
Its wiU refer the plane ft 'seisms of eminence, in whom
he has confidence, so that the government has complete
superistendence of all the works we are constricting. As
to works ha proems, a certificate could be obteined that
they were satisfactorily onstruted, so that at all times the
g aaaaa ment could jedge as to the propriety of those works.
The CELNCILLOR of the EXCIIZQUIR said the question
was net so mace what would satiety the government as the
view which the public might take of It tome years hems,
sad on which the validity of the security in some degree
de dad.
Mr. 7/MAlM—Pulliam& hat determined the qualm ;
for the Metropelitaa Baud of Werke has been formed to
unstract Um works polated ma is the act. The whole sub-
ject has often bees before parliameatery c immittees sad
has been thoroughly sifted, sad the public mind is prepared
for It. _ _ _

Tbo CIANOZLLOR of the EX011417111-13SppOde the loan
to be effected, and the Meiners to be burdened with a rate
of 4J. to the pound for 50 years, whet other ezpnem would
be goiag os at the same time ? Yon would hare your COP
net expenses as well es your dead weight to bear, if I may
se call it. What will your total demands upon the rate.
payers be ?
Mr. Timms's—The late Coaudialesen of
empowered to rates a rate of 6d. is the pound.
The Ciuncau.oft of the EXCIIIQUIM—And they hate
left a debt of hell a atfillos.

of Sowers was

Mr. Tzwarrus—That rate will give us 160,0001. for
stetropolttan improvements, eat then we shall ooly tee the
ratepayers to the estest of dd. is the pound.
14 Sir B. HALL—The Metropolitan Commissioners of Sewers
had a vest 'mould of sewerage works to provide for the
whole metropolis which do not cow come under your cog-
abeam, as thou' eawerage works are plated under the din
triat authorities.

TliiCatAticit.Lon of the EICNIQUEZ—What to *emit
of your establishment?
Mr. Tnwarrsa—Ab _
bane sum for compsosation.
The CIANCILLOI of the Excnantrik—What will be the
total sem you require ?
Mr. TaWAITSS—That will depend oa the nature of the
improvements we have to Garry oat. A new street may oast
500001. or 600,0001.
The CIIANCILLON of the RXOIII6QUIII-1 understand
your plan ; bat, of worse, nothing can be done by the go-
INTIIIII•St NM &I prang powers ; bat we mat go to par-
Measont. Thalia all I sea say.
Mr. Deputy RAWSON said a bill had been presented for
foreleg a now street In Southwark, and a clause might be
inserted is the bill for the pogrom now sought.
The CIIANONIZON of the RICIIZQUAL-111 that 0096 the
time for the bill must be enlarged.
Mr. TawAnis—Not aseessuily so.
The Cmancluson of the Exotica/xi—l will consider
the Ratter daring the ream of parliament and let you
know.

220,000/. ; but that includes a

TZWAITIS—The matter is of pressing necessity to
as in preparing oar works.
Mr. Borson hoped that the Cbaccellor of the Encbequer
and Sir Beojarain Hall would feel that if the board had not
the aseistance of government, that they would be unable to
rake money except at es enormous interest.
The CHANCiLLOIL of the EICHZQUIR—Toe cannot raise
this money without parliamentary authority.
Mr. BOYBON said, comparing the condition of Paris and
, London, sad looking at what had been done for each, be
thought the metropolis of England had a good claim on the
government for a guarantee to raise shift money'.
The Cmatecso.on of the Excnistins—lt is sot the
habit of government to guarantee loans.
Major Lion said, the former commissioners were pertly
sleeted and partly nominated, but this board was entirely
elected, and those persons who would be called upon to pay
would have great,r confidence in the board than is persons
nominated in part or entirely by the government.
Mr. THWAITnn—I a heard of a public debt being
repudiated is England.
Mr. Deputy HARRISON again euggeeted that clauses
might be Warted is the bill sow before parliament.
The DnAttheu.os of the Excitzcittsit —No, it must be a
separate bill, is consequence of the magnitude of the sum to
be raked. I will suggest that you had better put the matter
you have submitted to me tO4By in Viking, the proportion
of the estimate*, the menu by which you prone,. to raise
the money, and the 'Arrow to which you will apply the
loan ; and I will take It into consideration.
The deputation, after a lengthened interview, then with-
drew.