The Express.
London, England, 1866-02-09 00:00:00

The OITOBNILY-OBBFALL foe IRELAND (Mr. • edition, of the established oburch—(head—tbe rem—
Lawson) denied that Ireland was deprived of self- of waste lands, of a he upon absentees, of the
right, of
goemenaient by being represented is the imperial par- loans, and railways, awl in general to measures for the pro.
Lamest ; or that the large body of Irish member. were motion of the materiel prosperity of Imbed. The noble
inefficient to isfiaence measures for the benefit of their lord the member for Cookerinouth gave • fair desetiption of
reinaery. He woad that whereas dm paragraph in these measures la the mast. He said they were fair sub-
the (lathe's speech only stated the fact of coespiracy bete forncrelienth. ettrY himselfsuppose
to the Peddled character of
conspiracy was traceable to causes which it was each and all of these subjects. It would
ibe imponade for
the duty of the government to MOOTS • while pirliameet to vesture to make promises n regard to them.
the principle of Ffallabilla was simply an abstract 'and re. Vega* promisee—gtherd, end. two Parehen..o !iv* s sad
. usieleer
volutionary objeetioa to imperial rule is Ireland. The ing promises—of • desireesea. intention to
do teat wee,
adoptioe of the amendment might easily be conatroed into taken at the best,•is *eel ed in Mande difficealty of detail,
especially when addressed to Ai people whose minds
sympathy with the Fenian movement.
The debate was cocooned by Mr. George. who mined ere Perherel yet ewe and sensitive with the "eel-
that the gore:nomad *wild have dealt earlier with the leaden of former wrongs, attract •very little "eel-
that
conspiracy ; by Sir W. Barron, the new, but demos end envoy very little comfort. (Hear, hear.)
formerly also member for Waterford, who held' that Now, what I would say il this. Some of these quer**
there were grievances in. Ireland which the govern- are heady In program. Them smothers which it is the
intention of the represeatatives of various constituencies
°lnfer er%rdiproghtirnernindwhYo;mbyafririeWhoumniVrctPrro'htheemnoreewmmoTiet to bring under the consideration of the howls. Let the
govemmentbejudged pon.erich as it edamthe spirit in
view of the Irish complaints, urging tbat the eoedition of
that people was the result of coostonde laws, and not of the which it attempts to dial_ _ with them. He by
I have been
ega.held brihe re,
spaced grievances now set up ; by Mr. Syrian, also • new asked if we approve fth
r 0 0 gene.
Irish member ;by Mr. Whalley, Mr. Reardon, new DIM. ' trireme of the government in Ireland in y f *Pm".
eel views and principles in which the government of Ire-
bey for Athlone ; 11r. Bagwell, and Cot. Gesell*
ee o lead should be carried on. Not cognisant of the precise
Mr. MAGUIRE, while chsracesrmang •
Fentaninn - sad absolute terms of that language, lem not able to give
seal nod inseam" movement' wee ben" Lc' "7 that the" . • categorical reply. Bat this we know, that my noble
were many grievances in Ireland which operated to create friend
sod
my
right bon. friend who represent that
sad foster diseffection. He contended that while one camshave been chosen to represent it on
of disinfection was the taunts and ammo which bad been Protium." in Ireland. _
principles on which we know they are
heaped on Ireland by English jourealiste, and while the the ground of
act. Therefore the language in which we
established church was • standing insult to the majority of Preinl!ed_
they
Irishmen, yet the crowning grievance, was the state of the expect
we would weilrentourvathiveovonctolveheo is the language
sa thebe
relation' ' between landlord and tenant. All that ens which e
required for the amendment of those mistime was the people of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Our first duty is to
condemn the folly, the =dims, and the deep guilt of
"tit daa n°4°l4 tenant to fell eninPensaninn foe in.- 1 this owe • (El hear.) I respect the sentiment
piney. 011;
provemente. which has prevented the hoe. member for Trines from
Lord NAAS argued that the Fenian movement did not joining in the emphatic condemnation of Fenianinn. I
origieste In Ireland, and was caused be grievances existing am sure it is not bemuse he does not condemn it. lam
In that eounery ; bat was advised and organised under the . convinced that the more clear our language on the subject
influence of Irishmen in America—the object being " the better we dischsrge oar duty to the law and cooed.
treader the land of Ireland from its pewee owners to soar
from a foreign i tatkuo,
medal headers oonatry. and the greater the mercy we show* the deluded
I persons who 'repot only them** but the victims of the
Ihr P. aßdeor Lord O- Hamilton, Sir T. Hone* Colonel conspiracy. (Hear, hear.) But having. done that I agree
Veneeleur, sad Mr. Edmonds having spokes, I with those who say that the existence of a con-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, who was ' "piracy like this, so far from *Hag away any
greeted with load cheers, said-1 have bees anxious, sir duty or oblige
tioa of the government to examine
to follow this debate to its medullae, sod to be guided into Irish evils with a sincere desire to improve the condi-
eatirely by the convepience of the house either in ceofining don of the country, it, on the contrary, raises the oblige.
myself to the single subject which has ea yet been intro- tion to the highest point. (Hear, bear.) The noble lord
deceit into the thsconsion this evening,
or in bee
in
ad- , the member for Cockermouth and other gentlemen have
dressing myself to any remarks that any gentleman may ! enumerated the great results which have been obtaine
thed forse
still wish to make upon soy topic in the adders's. As, , Ireland by appeals to the imperial parliament If
however, the attention of the house has during the whole ' great works of improvement which have already been per.
evening been coafined to • subject well worthy of that at- . feimed have reacted beneficially on Ireland in such a way
tentioo, I will follow the example of those who have pre- that we now marshal on our aide, more than was ever before
ceded we, and offer a few remarks upon the motion of the I known, all the best sentiments, ooavictions, and intern-
boa. member for Tram, roaring to myself, if coonsion puce of the country, that is the greatest of all encourage•
should arise, and if other,
reelects should be subsequently ,meats to persevere in such a course. (Hear, hear.) For
introduced. the right to offer upon the main questionmy own part, I will only say that we are a united people,
expLasatioes as may be inquired on the part of the govern- • with a oommon government, with • complete political
maw. Wrth i espr ct to the debate this eveuing, I cannot but iuoorporation. But we are also an United Kingdom, made
begin by saying that I think those who have asp
-of three nations, welded politically into one, but nixes.
watched is through the many hours it hen continued will eerily and its fact with many distinctions of law, of usages,
agree with me is believing that Ireland has so reason to be of character, of history, and of religion. In circumstances
ashamed of the manner in which her cause has been stated such as these there ere common questions which must be
by her representatives—(bear, bear)—whether we look at administered upon principles common to the whole empire
the ability that they have displayed, or at the spied of . --all those questions in which the interests of the whole
tetioUSsat and earnestness which has marked their overbear and swallow up the interests of the parts. The
speeches, or ai: the strong and unequivocal language they compagition of • government meet be determined, not
have bald on the subject of the Fenian conspiracy, or, Int by domicile or birthplace, but by the competency of those
bat not least in importance, at the strong disposition they who are chosen to fill office. The levying of taxes in and
have shown to pester the methods of constitutional action the administration of the public revenue must be obviously
and diminution to other less legitimate methods of advancing , premed by principles applicableto the three Idngdomealike.
political tads. (Hear, beer.) But while I acknowledge The genital rule in these oaths should be alike applicable to
ex-
the ability and even the spirit of the hoc, member far all, subject, perhaps, to well-defined exceptions, and if
Trines, I must explain to the house why it is im. ceptions are made, they should be exceptions not in favour
possible for the government to secede to his motion. of any claw or party, but in favour of the whole country
I take that motion in the sense in which he himself laid it alike. But there are many other quest'wit regard to
before the house, as • proposal to omit from our address which in Roglamil, Scotland, and that interest
the paragraph corresponding to that in the Speech which which is especially Eoglish, Scotch, or Irish, predominates
relates to Fenianism„ and to substitute for it the passage over that which is common, and with regard to questions
which he has proposed . Sr. we are not prepared, so far as falling within that category we ought to apply to Ireland
it depends upon our choice and oonvictiou, to part with the the same principles on which we acted in the two other
paragraph la question. This paragraph has three object*. *anthers. and legislate for them according to the view" of
In the era place, it aims at eenounciog a conspiracy which, the majority of toe people of that country. I hope it may
an we believe, is wholly subversive of all thin a civilised be possible for England to do that which she has often done
community ought to cherish. I can understand and respect before, to aid the material prosperity of Ireland. It is in
the motives of the boo. member for Cork, when he states that way we will beet attain the oject so well described
that persons of pure and virtuous life are unhappily in• by she hon. member for Cork when he said it was
volved ie sympathy for this conspiracy ;for it is an unhappy ear duty to suppress the trade of the conspirator,
fad in human nature that purity of intention is no wife. and that in the way of pursuing that system of practical
, guard against embus error. Bat, sir, we are not here to legislation, in which, as has been well observed, so math
1 pass moral judgments —we are here to denounce Regress has been made in rallying on the side of law and
public evil ; and this solemn denunciation which her government all the best sentimenta and feelings of the
Majesty has been advised to utter horn the throne will country, and by which we hope alike to contribute
the
to itrs
be sustained by the general—nay, I will venture to hope welfare, and the credit, and honour, and dignity of
by the unanimous—judgment of this house. (Hear, hear.) British legislature. (Loud cheers.)
In the secoad piece, this paragraph aims at a knowledge of The O'DONOGHUE said he had been urged by many of
• fact alike gratifying std important, namely, that upon his hon. friends to withdraw the amendment, and to add
the occepon of this unbappy conspiracy there has been the words to, instead of substituting there for, he
t pare-
developed in Ireland • public opinion which hes so saw graph in the address. He wished therefore to withdraw
trained and strengthened the arm of law and authority as to the amendment.
enable the government to walk firmly forward in the path The SPEAKER intimated that the amendment was In
of repression without fear, without harshness, sod without possession of the house, and that it was for the house to
favour. (Cheers.) That opinion. happily is an opinion not decide whether they would grant permission to the horn
morel, dependent upon any one alms or any one portion of gentleman to make the change he proposed.
thelrish people,however important or powerful delay be, but Leave was given, and the amendment was withdrawn.
it represents, es has been truly said in the speech. all that are The O'DONOOHUE then proposed the addition of the
iotereated in the =netnews, of authority, property, and words to the paragraph.
relights, without distinction of creed or class. The hoe. The house divided i
member foe Peterborough, in the tranquil period of the For the amendment
evening—(a laugh)—did indeed utter a protest against Against it 346-321
placket on the same ground the disapproval of the Roman It was then arranged that the addrem should be agreed
catholic clergy with the similar and parallel disapproval
tce, on the moderthanding that the general discussion should
increee ling from other quarters, and entertained by every ~,.. on . . -
local-hearted tad enlightened man. But we differ from "`' Fumed• the bnnsing up of the report this day.
In committee resolutions were agreed to whereon to
the bon. member for Peterborough. The special object of found . •
bills making modifications is the National Debt Acts
this paragraph is to mark the satisfaction with which her and in the Sswags Banks sad Poet-office Sayings Banks
Majest hy hes announced to this hope, and with which t
hat
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house as received the announcement, tll who are in- Act'
The house adjourned at 25 minutes to 1 o'clock.
tweeted in the maieteeenoe of authority, of property, and
of religion—the three greet pillars of eivihsed society—
are determined to maintain the law, and todiscountenance
and condemn all that rile in opposition to it. (Cheers.)
Ludy, air, I hope, after what I have heard in the course of
the debate I feel sure, that our interposition is not disap-
proved when, in language which describes the method in
which the law has been vindicated, we have invited the
hones to join, at least by implicatioc, in expressing a general
approvalof that method *characterised by fairness and firm-
ness; anti, although some gentlemen have resolved theirjudg-
meet as to the question of the time at which repression
was begun, the house universally has approved of the aou-
dad of the executive, aided and advised as it his been by
my right hoe. friends near me—the two law officers of the
crown in Ireland. And here I may perhaps be allowed to
congratulate the Attorney-General on the manner and the
matter of the speech in which he introduced himself to the
house to-night. (Cheers.) We cannot, therefore, will-
ingly at least, part with the paragraph of the address to I
which I refer. (Hear, bear.) Now, let me take the
amendment which has been proposed by the hon. member
for Trdee, whether by way of substitution or of addition. He
proposes that we should humbly express, our deep regret
to her Majesty that wide-spread disaffection exists in Ire-
land, sad that we should humbly represent to her Majesty I
that this wide spread disaffection is the result of grave
causes which it is the duty of her Majesty's government to
examine into and remove. Now, sir, in the first place, I
doubt the wisdom or neeeeeity of a formal announcement by
this bones to the world, and liable to much misrepresenta-
tion amongst persons not so well informed as "mare as to the
actual state of the country. I doubt the wisdom of • formal
WEST AFRICAN COMMITTEE. an nonneement that widerepreaddireffection exists in Imbed.
Mr. ADDERLEY asked the Secretary of State for the I doubt also the wisdom of representing that this dis•ffec-
Colovies what steps had been taken towards carrying out • tioo, which must be interpreted in the present instance as
the recommendations of the Went African committee. I synonymous with Fenianieni, is the result of eiletelee•
Mr. CARDWELL replied that with respect to the geow i vanes.which it is our duty or in oar power, or implied to
ral recommendations of the committee, the Governor of ,be is oar power, to remove. My objection to that is two.
Sierra Leone had been appointed governor of all the forts , fold. In the first place, lam far from saying that it is
along the mast. The governor had received Instructress to , intended as • justificatioe or palliation of Fenianism, but
make arrangements for the reduction of eerie* establish- , it partakes too mash of that character, and I confess I
manta, and also to take measures with a view of getting ! greatly object to stating that the evils of Ireland, whatever
rid of the objectionable state of the law relating to domes- 1 they may he, are the result of CV"" which it is our doty to
tie slavery in that region, either by an alteration of the ! remove. Tbat is a flattering and alluring declared*. but be-
low, or by • restriction of the area of its operation. I eines it is flattering and alluring that is the reason I suspect
QUEEN'S SPEW/H.—ADJOURNED DEBATE ! and hesitate to adopt it. The evils of Ireland are inweerste.
The hon. and g Want member for Longford well pointed out
ON VII ADDRESS. that in a country where misgovernment or oppression has
The O'DONOGHUE dissented from the paragraph in the prevailed you must not, w
even by removing the mo,
Queen' s speech relating to Ireland, and with the permission expect immediately to get rid of the effete. (Hear hear.) fiztbat anyi intlitarg.
a the house he begged to substitute for it the following: Yoe may withdraw the wespoa which has cawied the --4,
.
"Humbly to express env deep regret to her Majesty that : wound, but it does not follow that the process of healing ApmfereerT ygm it. Awporwww
wido-optead &satiation exists is leaked, and humbly ' will be immediate. (Hear.)
to represent to her Majesty that this wide-spread sod complicated as is the greetn efv;sisfhereciasselLinieeetearitit CoreeabthadeeerteV.E.'Cily. Rhioberte; Itse,ththetpriehe vil
Albert. ;
B.
B.
wil. .
ateslf=ction is the *malt of grave comm, which it brooches, I Damietta to adopt susy words which would seem kic ,to the Favourite. "
to the duty of her Majesty's mieisters to examine into to pledge perlismeat to promise beyond what it may be in Master J.
Paymaster
to the Fart.eu
remove." r
sad In Ireland there was wide spread disaffection, our power to give effect to. Oa these grounds 1 object to 1 pet e. Ray,e te the F
the result of adequate ceases, but if the government de- the proposal of the hoe. member for Tr**. But I 1 Ana-Want Paymasters W. B. Specee,sar A. C. Jeffreys,
slant it to be their mtention to do all they could to remove confess there is dill • wider potted of objec-
those masse, and gave • proof of their honesty of purpose, Lion. Her Majesty has had efore her the fact of to the Trafalgar.
Clerk H. Foster, to the Favourite.*stapled of disaffeeboo. would subside, and the small party a orephisey eo soheert, law, order. property, end wed°, . Assistant Clerks H. 8. Hashormuo, to the Favourite; H.
who now advocated as insurrectionary movement woaldlose It is all very well for her Majesty. whets dealing weirs.).' to the Formidable,
thePoPtilsesympathy whichtheynow undoubtedly ponwesed. with those wbo seek the amendment of the law, to enter gogee,G. a dchoke,to the cremberissa, for service
Weil, what was to be done? Would the government perm- frankly upon • discussion of the question. But there are In the Mullet ;W. • to the Asia; J. Bosch, to the
vere in the policy whieh had produced each deploreble results? not parties who seek for an amendment of the law. Thep Industry for the .
If they did they would meet the wishes of those who were are parties who seek for • dismemberment of the Britis
Acting,
aonspiring to overthrow British rule, awl who did not wish empire, besides the grievous consequences which it would Second Class Assistaat Zegieler J.
A.
Lemon'
t°
the Indus, for service in the Zealous.
them to conciliate the Irish people, because if they were inflict on Inland. It appears* me that the executive
ethelliated that rule would be es, ablished ea • firm and government, in the face of feats like these, has one duty to 1
imperishable basis. Oa the other band, would they, as was perform-1 de notesy howdy duty, but its first duty—sod ! ETON 701721 D rs Tlill TRAMP:B.—The
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dearly their duty, diligently and cerafully investigate the a dety so distinct and emphatic, that we ought not to mix „footedlLlS
8
inquest on the death of the maa whose skeleton
1"1" of Irish disaffection, sod deal with them promptly up the performaoce of that date with anything that as was found in the bed of the Thames near Waterloo-bridge
serd fearlessly ? (Hear, bear.) They would not be required possibly be construed intoe condition or restriction. There.
--wed this he wished to impress oe the house--to do any- fore lam loath in the et degree that in dealing with Fe- es the 9th al January wee held at 2 deb* yederday at
thhelmo:eneive to Radish Pride. or which would teed to alsaism we should plea is winnexicre with Fenianism that tit for the Ltheasx4treetter' Strand.
A lidybywasiir.prerlerne't wwm.hoee
the • tanberment of the Bull* empire, or to weaken which is so dkoonneected from it, immediate promises
the stability of Roglish power. They would simply be of the nature of
he
ethowsl weheellighl
hthavetheiderseribedews,
ado"..beedbuthedbeingleyusterinableaustolyidendieetrzedthy ofettetarticafte: fyoleurfril
*eked to do certain things which if they had nit and which may
deprived the Irish people of self pvereasent they time and place. Bak having mid that, and with **skeleton, she Was sot examined. The across: stated
veal& havereeter, since done fee themselves. They . having, se strongly end " elderly as I can, asserted the duty ?that the
ffelleeadt /ethquithrtesaireldenbed been
the The
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respecting
meal& be to give to Ireland her moles of our orsegaing ourselves la the address we propose --e e -ea-- with —e -----• end mt
otel Mee teeth,
*venue, to be expended on public works of utility—to in.. •to present to the denunciation of this peat sod moostrous line bad led to no discovery as to the ideality of the
pose heavy penalties an abeseeseiser—itheghter)—th do evil, I fully understand the anxiety of Irish members who fa A The jury returned an epee verdict
away with the asesedthey of one ahem* seer amoebae— some to us sod say that, in looking at • phenoineasea so ~...ter,,_„,,,.eestiet,.,,,___Maani—Hola,_elraTllPELlft""Winter_t
ewer, heer)—te aidenilate the edneedisaal and the pow- ' portentous, we meat not be content with that exclusive "''''''"'"'—" ''"" 61/1"7""5. e
rr "bather they nehher w
Paw systems in Ireland to *me in Weed, sad to ONO ', re/mews, bat must also look *the means of redress. It is In ntitiselrn etUw inasent enre ns 'Mb"; wereoaesbheeevete Iven.e&Paine sot bp'', h.
:lb an set ar ealeame-right se wined give teneed-ferniers, ' variably true Is the saes debase movetimated great maims blood must beenereed troy tirecosslese" - car- ho-s- —and maws- --
a foothold* tee soil, *ad relieve *we from the • d met, sot that thegsdlt is all on one side. and reason and Weis IrCM purifying neffie like Holloway's Mt idea
mainWpted widens which sow existed. Neale( short of ilght on the ether, but that mixed motives end aresiders. 21.4 sok
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE or LORDB.--irnumaDAT, Milli .
'Mir lordships mat at a few miser bslors 6 *Walt.

CATTLE PLAGUE.
Lord BRAYBROOKE meseeted *Glom from districts
he lama, praying that legislative maetion might be given
to 110•243 system of national insurance easiest the ravages
el the cattL plague.
IRISH POLICE.
The Earl of LEITRIM mired whether goverameet would
bi on the table a copy of the royal oantedesioe wet
heir
boned for inquiry Into the condition of the lAA pollee.
Berl RUSSELL would answer this evening.
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS.
Lord FLAVENSWORTH said that he bad last eession
announced hie intention of brioging in a bill on the subject
of Roman Catholio oaths, but that as government in-
tended to bring is a bill oe the subject of parlismentary
maths meerally, he had abandoned his tatentioo. He feared
that the establishment of • uniform oath would be toned
te be a more ditloult task than wee anticipated by her
Majsely's government.
NATIONAL FAST FOR THE CATTLE PLAGUE.
The Berl of CARNAHVON had &rather imported quo.
Yes to ask the noble earl at the head of the government. He
bed noticed in the papers of that morning in a report of the
~so.dings of convoeatioe—rather an odd plplaceby the way
whichhe cs
to Sod news of the cattle pbgae—that the most
NIV. the Primate of all England stated be had roommuni-
mated with Sir George Grey on the subject of a national
fast in oonneeion with the cattle plague. Sir George Grey
bad declined attending to the suggestion, sad amongst
ether !moons he gave this one, that initialled feats were
only appointed in consequence of calamities which affected
the entire nation. Now he (Lord Carnarvon) must say
that if such was the moon given by Sir George Grey it was
• moat unsatisfactory one, and would go far to justify the
belief, which wee too prevalent, that her Majesty's govern-
ment was indifferent to the sufferings of the clam upon
which this calamity bad fallen, and that if any other oboe
bad suffered it would have been more votive. He knew
there were certain doctrinaires is the country whe hold
that if the whole of our cattle were swept away the
laws of trade should not be disturbed, and that every-
thing should be left to Sod its own level. He hold that
the cattle plague was a calamity which attested every class
throughout the emetry, and he doubted whether the
Cbminellor of the Exchequer would not And its effects
telling in every branch of the revenue.
Earl RUSSELL believed that the beet answer he could
give to the noble earl would be to produce the letter of the
Friend. and the reply of Sir George Grey. Wiles the
noble earl saw that letter he would see that there was
already a prayer by using which the 'taboo might humble
GNU before the Almighty, and implore the divine proton.
lion in the case of the cattle plague. Perhaps the noble
seri would have done well to have waited for the m 3due-
Son of these letters before he indulged in invectives against
bar Majesty's government.
The Bishop of LINCOLN could amore the hones that in
the district with which he was connected, and which bad
suffered, and was still suffering, severely from the
settle olmoe, the appointment of a national fast would be
Mewed with great satisfactioe. It wts true that the prayer
to which the noble earl bad alluded was read every week,
bat it was thought it would be fitting if a more specal act
of national supplication were appoiated. In many whams
Me people were t aline the matter mto their Olen halite,
mil calling upon the clergy to stir in the matter.
THE CATTLE TRADE.
Lord BATEMAN was understood to complain that SIT
George Grey had declined to receive a deputation from the
loyal Agricultural Society on the subject of the cattle
plague, as ale° one from the battle Trade °anteroom.
Earl RUSSELL said that the Home Secretary had ap-
pointed Monday next to receive the latter deputation.
Lord BATEMAN would on the same evening call upon
the noble earl to lay Sir G. Grey's answer to the deputa-
tion on the table.
Their lordships adjoursed at six o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS.—TatuoraY, FIB. 8.
The finaLta took the chair at a few minutes before
4 o'clock.
Mr. Bagwell, Mr. Adair, Mr. Di!lvy's, Lord Cleud
Hamilton. Lord H. Scott, Sir W. Russell, Mr. Cheatham,
Ind Mr. Hussey Vivian took the oaths.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
A number of private bills were brought in and read •
Het time.
ELECTION PETITIONS.
Petitions were presented oomplaielog of undue returns
ter the boroughs of Wexford and Bridgenorth, and the
esenty of Dumbarton.
The SPEAKER aaoounaed that he hid received a letter
kern Mr. Stirling, dated the Bth inst.. statiog that it was
net his intention to defend his return for Dumbartonshire.
NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
MASTERS IN THE NAVY.
Sir L PALK gave notice that die Tuesday, the 6th of
March, he should move that the house resolve itself into
nommittee, with the view of presenting an bumble address
to her Majesty, praying that the condition of masters in
the navy be improved.
COMMUNICATION
AND BE
ETWEENGERS. RAILWAY GUARDS
PASS
Mr. H. B. SHERIDAN gave notice that on Tuesday, the
Nth February, he should move for leave to bring in a bill
is compel the directors of railway oompunies to provide
efficient means of communicatios between the travellers and
the guards in charge of railway taxies.
DEEP SEA. FISHERIES COMMISSION.
Mr. CAVE gave notice, that on Friday, the 23rd Feb-
weary, he should oil attention to the report of the Deep
Nee Fisheries Commission, and esk the government whether
they intended to carry into effect the recommendations of
the iiummissioners.
THE CATTLE DISEASE.
Mr. HUNT gave notice that op Monday next he would
mere for leave to introduce a bill to cheek the spread of
the eat .le disease, although he did not ioteod to proceed
with it if the measure of the government proved aatisfao-
bey in priaoiple.

*parting *Matti/nut.

TATTERSALL'S.—TutrzsDAT.

Very few members paid a visit to the Subscription-room
to-day, consequently no transactions of importaaos took
Place. Twenty " ponies" were laid against Auguste for the
Derby, the lime price offered against Janitor, and 1,000
to 10 was taken about dpaley, while 2,000 to 1,000 was
aid on Knight of the Crescent against the Midsummer colt.

INFIRMARIES IN IRELAND.
Mr. POLLARD-URQUHART gave notice that oa an
early day he should bring in a bill to regulate the im-
provement of oouoty and borough Merman's in Ireland.
XORNING SITTINGS.
Mr. WART gave notice that be would tale as early
opportunity of moving that the house meet en Tuesdays at
12 (Nook, with a view of despatching busineas betweea
the bows of 12 and 6 o'eloek oa that day, as on Wades,-
days.
POOR-LAW RATING& _ .

BETTING AT MANCHESTER—TatrasDAY.
LINCOLN HANDICAP.
10 to 1 apt Mephistopheles (t) I LS to 1 agst Wild Bee (t)
LIVERPOOL STEEPLECHASE.
Ho to 6 apt Cortolviu (t) I 50 to 1 apt Laura (5)
20 to 1 Creole (off)lLisiseUssi (t 1)
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STAKES.
100 to Soot Mall Train (wasted)
CHESTER CUP.
AO to 1 agst Gong (t)

Xr. KRECRWICH gave notice that on as early day be
mould ask the President of the Poor-law Board whether he
Intended to introduce any measure for amendment of the
poor laws, espaially as respected the question of rating.
RATING OF NINES.
- -

Mr. CAVE gave Doti°e of hie ioteatien to a* the
President of the Poor-lew Board whether it wag hie inten-
tion to introduce say Ineaenre to provide for the rating of
aloes.

Staff

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 9, 1866.

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Mr. iimedict—l deal 'now.

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COURT OF QURRN'B MCNCH.—F23. 8.
Miss Turin Nisi Prins dialogs at Westminstsr.—(Bsfoas
She Lord add Judaea sad Spada Joriso.)
VITAE V. WOOD.-ICY..

After our repeat left yesterday,
Mr. William Harrison deposed—l have known lir. &7U
personally roes the produeros of Charles Ms Sensed.
Mr. Oriels—How long is that! (Laughter.)
Kr. Harrison—Star he was mired at the Opera; about
twelve or fourteen years. I have mug at Mr. ayaa's
arts as a friend. Mir Lociss Pm* has been in Wend-
mace several days to glue rider*, but she is now at
Manchester.
Oros-examined—Whee I sang for him I 'mew he was •
musical critic. I maim from tires to thirty guineas for
sin
Mr iWeiss depossd—l bare knows the plaintiff about
fourteen or fifteen years. I have sung at two of his comers
bemuse he is a friend of mine. I made his personal
sequaintame when the opera el Marks the Second eau
produced.

I.—l krtinr at t!sa time I nag at Ws am.

01;6 that hs was a musical critic.
Mr. Bassillet deposed—l arc s conductor sod composer. I
have knows the plaintiff essay years. Rs is s Mend of
!nine. I have conducted at many of his concerts, always as
a Mead.

Ile has been a musical with) ever sines
---
I have town bits. Operas depend very much on critics.
Ido not know that Gounod's works were kept out of Rog.
land for 10 or 12 years by a bristle critic. I doubt if one man
would be able to do no. Ris works have been performed at
Oovent-Garden.
Mr. Coleridre—And written down?

Mr. Oole7icliejDo yea it-san to my that?
Mr. Benedict—l don't mess to my scything.
The Lord Chief Justice—Are you aware of any other
professional =goal critic who gives concerts ►t which the
artists siog gratuitously ?
Mr. Besedist —I don't know of say other than Mr. Ryan,
since Mr. Howard Glover has left the press.
The Lord Chief Justice—l ask you, es • great authority,
whether you thick it desirable that such • thing should be
drawn into • precedent!
Mr. Benedict—lt is difficult to ray. Is my conscience I
think it is disadvantageous to the critics themselves to give
concerts. On the other hand artists are rosy liberal.
They often sing gratuitously .or charitable purposes, sod
it is very prob•bi many of them sing at Mr. Ryan's coc-
oons without the foot of his being • critic entering isto
their minds. _ _

This was the plaintiff's ass.
The defendant valid no witnesses.
Yr. Serjeant Bobinaon having summed up the plaintiff's

evidence,
Mr. Coleridge addressed the jury is mitigation of
damages. He said there could be so doubt this was a
serious libel if sot tree, and demanded something like n
explanation from the defendant. It would be difficult fee
them to be brought to look at this matter from the point of
view in which It presented itself to the defendant, but he
hoped to be able to give them some eminence towards it.
Pew things could be more important than that crake
of all kinds should be thoroughly independent and
honourable men, and he weld sot Imagine • person
to have more arduous and important duties than
• critic, for he bad the destinies of a large number of
honourable, deserving, and too often needy individual+
in his hands. The article itself showed what the
writer Intended to denounce. It was sot suggested
that the defendant had any spite or malice against
the plaintiff, but rather the contrary. The de-
fendant was • public writer, and he sincerely
believed that there was a system in conoexion with the
menial profeesion, whereby a criiio's praises were to be
bought, and if persons would state is public what they
said in private, it would be more easy to show it than it
had been io this ease. A great many people believed it,
and Mr. Wood might entertain a bon-fide belief it its
existence. He was astounded to hear Mr. Benedict say
that the writings of M. (loaned were not kept out of this
oonntry by adverse criticism, because be (Idr. Coleridge)
believed it wee unfortunately too true. The existence of
these foots in Mr. Wood's belief and others might na-
turally load him to desire to put en end to it. There
were two orifice who were in the habit of giving
comer's+, and, in fact. the artists, by singing at them, give
I tbirty or twenty guineas each to the critic whom they sup-
port on these occasions, and it was for the jury to say with
what object it was done. Professional singers, like other
professional men, were always ready to moist in cases ri
distress, and by their aid in singing do a charitable act, but
it did not apply in the case of a critic. It certainly might be
assumed that if the plaintiff had not been a critic, the pro-
tenelosals who bed been called might not have even
their gratuitous service,. Mr. Wood, believing the evil
Inferred to existed, considered it was patent in Mr. Ryan's
ease, and if they believed the system intended to be de-
meaned waited and was a bad one, and that the plaintiff's,
meduct was such as to lay him open to observation, he was
not entitled to heavy damages. It was but natural that the
victims of the netem should decline coming forward to
give evidence, and it was difficult, in cans where they were
morally certain of its truth as they ware that the sun shoos
at soon day, to procure the necessary evidence from reluc-
tant wienessm. Mr. Wood was desirone of rid of
them shackles which sorrowed the musical anion.
and any one who wished to see it emancipated ought to
thank those who attempted to get rid of a vicious system.
The defendant mart, unfortunately, fail, and the verdict
mart go against him ; and then arose the question of
damages. It was sot shown that Mr. Ryan had sustained
ems atom of damage by the publication of the libels, and
he suggested the smallest coin of the realm. Mr. Wood
believed—nay almost knew it was true, and therefore be,
could not withdraw what had bees published, but left it
to the jury to say what damages the plaintiff, as a musical
critic and a man of honour, bad stunned.
The Lord Chief Justice, in summing op, said there could
be no doubt this was a libel of a most serous character, for
it imputed to the plaintiff that his criticisms were
actuated by sordid motives. Critics undertake a most
'.nportant. be might say, a sacred duty, when they pro-
fess to enlighten the public upon matters either of
literature or artistic performances. The public naturally
was guided in the formation of its opinion by what it read,
believing that criticism' were writtoo fairly and impartial)y.
Scarcely any one went to view the pictures in May with-
out being guided more or less by what he bad previously
read about them ; and in like manner as to the merits or
demerits of en actor or a singer. All believed that criti-
c-ems were honestly written by men who were better able
to form an opinion than the nubile generally, if left to
their unaided judgment. It was therefore a onion
thing to charge • critic with being actuated by
sordid feelings. He quite *occurred with the defendant's
counsel that the system referred to was one wnich •
public writer was justified in severely commenting on, but
he had gone further in this instance, and bad charged Mr.
Ryan with being actuated with base motives—baying de-
scribed hits ea one of the highwaymen of the prose,
black mail upon all he could. However much !i.i=
critics having concerts for their own beeefit was to be re-
gretted, it did sot appear that Mr. Rpm had, in anew
queue, abused his privilege and power ; bet on the otter
hand, it was a practice likely to create suspicion and tend
to increase the belief, if it existed, of partiality towards
thole artiste who gave him their gratuitous services. He I
regretted the defendant should have persisted in reiterating'
the charge through his learned conned to them, instead of
relying on his honest belief ; and that being so, he thought
the plaintiff, in vindication of his character as a public,
writer and as • man of honour, was entitled to sub-
stantial damages.
The jory returned • verdict for the plaintiff—der
magas, 260 i.

TRAFFIC RITURNS.
Masa Pan- Teta. Total,
BAILWAYS. open. aesews. eaan4W. 1/115. 114
Week ending Dee. 1. a 4t a
Groat ilenthern of India 79 241 238 MO 473
Week ending Dee. 110.
Bahia and Ban Francisco. 761 174 421 807 IMO
Week ending Jan. 11. 1124. UM%
Northern of Canada l6l 918 1,170 1,011
Week ending law IL
Dublin and Meath SS 101 114 f 96 MO
Week ending Feb. IL
North &Mem llO7l 10,417 SOAR SUN 22,*71
week siding lab. 4.
Italia& and County Down 441 901 220 1101 541
Bristol and Iserser
Carnw.B
II wickeder., kaiak Ana
Mon. & Altrisolhos el 6 NO 1,41 1.21111
North 1111tioh

Twit MYttrmaious Minutia 11l SHROnINTILI. =NB
UNCLI DISCILATIOND NT TEI MAGTERRATZL —Yesterday, Mr.
John Meredith, the uncle of the 'oust mu, Edward
Edwards, was again brought up before the magistrates at
elsobury Mortimer: charged with the murder of his nephew.
The prosecution was conducted by the pollee, sod Mr.
Kennedy, of the Midlasd Circuit, &horded. Several polies
allows gave eridenee, sad Sergeant Oor., who had beep to
London with Nelda wades of wearing apparel belonging
to the primmer. deposed that he bad delivered the clothing
to Prof..., Taylor, who had partially esamined them, but
whom it was not intended to call that day. The spots of
blood on the trammel corresponded in rase with the spots on
the wail of the mill. Another polio* sergeant said that the
prisons( said be got the blood on his trousers whilst
carrying the deceased from the mill, but ptiener
did not amist is carrying him from the mill.
He did, however. moist to carry him
Mr. Keeniedy used that there was not sufficient evidence
for a committal. The only addling at all suspicious was
the enlistees* of the blood upon the clothes. which, MM.
plained, was suspicious ; bat the surgeons bad mid that the
pence who eammitted the murder mast have bees armed
with blood. Oa the primewer's sloth= however. thaw
, were only a few spate of blood. sad its presents was =-
planed by the probability that whilst the drceend was
being carried up-stain by the primmer and others then
was an Maxim of blood from the wound, and that ease
et it get apes the peieosee's clothing. Farther, allowing
all the Ow Ihe_d be gives to the rto be away
preanatioa eouldtersiebly Gleam, only
half en hew mol
from his bow ea the morning of .ardor. Sir John
Monet, ea tense* with his bream indirtrobra bide
on* said than Very ware uwardiecieelyaf /pain that the
primmer as, flbsiarged. The crowded yarn awed.
, ead=lexemleoutray to en ima by a Urge number