The Express.
London, England, 1867-02-12 00:00:00

TAR IRISH CHURCH.

The lbslmp IIOWN then row to move for returns
from 6.• commissioners (Ireland) of the
rmaaad net revenues of the established church in Ire-
land.

Tice Aiehhishop of DUBLIN said be was not able to
support the riotion of the right rev. prelate ; but that was
not from any desire not to see all anomalies in the Irish
church removed, but simply upon the ground that these
returns would involve a vast deal of labour to a large body
of pemons. and that even if they were made they would bu
sup ereuous. as the information sought for was already in
their lordships' loads. limier these circumstances he
would request the right rev. prelate to withdraw his
motion, or if he did not do so he should ask their lord-
ships to negative it.
The Bishop of DOWN wished to state that the meet
rev. prelate was in error in stating that the returns sought
for were easily accessible, for the fact was they were
spread over wary ymirs, and were set forth in different
reC°s.
1: Marquis of CLANRICARDE thought the motion
ought to be acceded to. There was no mason stated why
these returns should not be given in the form set forth,
except that tha y would muse extra labour to owe per-
sons ; but that was in truth no reason at all. The returns
asked for ought to he presented to the house in a women-
thous form. sue right rev. prelate had moved for these
returns, and it would seem strange to the public if they
were refused at the instance of his mod rev, brother.
(Hear, hear.)

The Earl .of DERBY was desirous that every nem:airy
information should be furnished ; but out of the eight
queries presented by the right reverend prelate information
had already been given in reply to seven, and a motion
for a return was at resent beton: the other house, which
would be agreed to by the government. That return would
furnish the necessary information asked for by the eighth
query. It seemed to him to be imposing unnecessary ex-
pense and trouble to call a second time for information
which had already been given in another form.
The Bishop a DOWN thought that when a member of
the episcopal bench asked for information upon an eccle-
siastical subjcct it was unprecedented that the returns
should not be granted.
Lord I 'RANIVORTH suggested that the right reverend
prelate should assimilate the terms of his motion as
reganled the information not already granted, with theme
of the motion to be made in the other house of par-
liament.
The Earl of DERBY said that in that ease he should
make no objection to the motion. What he objected to
was the moving for returns already substantially before
the house, or about to be produced there, and the in-
curring thereby of fresh expense and trouble, on a mere
point of form.
The motion was then negatived, and their lordships
adjourned at 21 minutes before 6 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY, FEN. 11.

The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.

The body of the house was densely filled, and much
bustle and excitement prevailed. As usual, the strangers'
gallery was besieged at an early hour, and the doorkeepers
and police had sonic difficulty in restraining the impatience
of the public. The peers' box was fully occupied imme-
diately after prayers, and amongst the earlier arrivals were
their Royal Highnesses the Prince of Wales, the Duke of
Cambridge, and Prince Teek. Earl Russell and the
Bishop of Oxford sat on the opposite side of the entrance
ininiesliately behind the Serrant-at-Arms. The ladies'
gallery was also crowded, but none of the ladies of the
royal family were present.

GENERAL NELSON AND LIEUTENANT BRAND.
Major JERVIS gave notice that on Thursday next he
should ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer a question
with reference to the arrest of certain officers of her
Majesty's service in consequence of the proceedings of •
court-martial held in one of her Majesty's colonies.