The Express.
London, England, 1860-05-04 00:00:00

BT. WAN.

Ir. Ft FITZGERALD anhed the hinetary of Hate ter
Forage Alain whether he was prepared to give seal Wee-
nation ato the present yonista of the asgetateene
Memo Um carelry sad the United Stehle with refeeensa
Sethi Wand of Nan Jam ; and whether he had any °Nem
has te by the correependenso with the Veiled States es
that sal set the table of the hose& The hea plata
masa hi.lure's:B,os with a few remarbe what
won eat beard ia the ..
Lard J. HUINIALL—It will mot be .a to sigileha
entirety what the boa methisese siM the
attach was but which we Hunk wee lair is ea
~chaos the arms of the truzinit of prm
met state ef the growth. is tha, I am add bat Nab
to the atonalities I gave the other y. We met=
}*Floe in As kit, stitch wan refusal by the .t
marenesset seated over again their claim to the
IMO diesel elm they rr~ip y cleated mono enter the
tr.aty. We have &pa replied LP that statement. sad there
Is some queues whether the Ammon ',avenues* will
make ea unser to our dematath. The last Intelligente we
have reossael iti that General Cane expected to mein
mien from the Presideet to prepare a reply ; and it depends
m. m the terms of that, whether we ens at NM
lay the eorrespowleace .athe table of the hash wwh,ther some rej?inder will nut teat be required en the
el bee Ileyesty • government. With respect to the
ecclmatioe of the Wand of et. Jew the hewer.
ski, reiterate and the haute are aware that
t ;moral Harem thought it proper or aecemary to
pl a 410 .es as the *Lad, anal alai a battery of "ea&
7:, moral it ~:t west there with ursine hurls the President
to use hat own atioseitioe, es the base of Secretary •
loch it well known to the house.
&.44, Itettag the spirit el that 4111,1deh, itO
sent away ell Gamed Harsey's fores, with the exception
.1 100 moo, mist declared that anther party ought se-
er • ase exclativit jeriadkiters no the itlead. He also set
a. .v the buttery of gusa and he informed the
a Vancouver's bland tad the Admin.! what he
but the governor did net think hinted, mithurieed to enter
in a any osepsreraite Off agreement with Genial 'then tall
!ad rereave.l orders from home. 074181 hat been sets
to the admiral to last 100 marbwa, being the lame member
et roes ao the Veiled Hance hail placed the" sad
we stead at the mese time that it was Minty
ie a-,oerlance with what the American 'ovenwares had
etare,t us their part, namely. that while the matter wee
DO ler .1; there might to he so incisive jurisdiction
e.irael in the Wand. There has has semi ifienbt a the
lama of the r.v. nay of Vancouver's liked whether VS
si•ot tr. have • magistrate in the abed What hi the
at. it. of thm,.. there at the patient tune I canal but
what I hare •10,0.1 I. the latest iatellkeees Mat her
4orknagu.st have received.

POOR LAW MEDICAL =LW BILL.
Mr. BOUVERIE gave notice Mat es the eleideu far the
emend radme dUN bill he should move that it be read a
assort tire tbt la
Tffiud:
REFORM months. (ts)
Thu shirr an the near wen wooed
./m igalatuLky, ere mid he b;oduazreed the
bind the late perreer Weser it wee cm the
videos piny& et reitersity of sallkege, sad ash wen
vireally the prieltai elf
the purr ban. The bin d tie
ler prek m peseady selecti was Fehr.
ore to ti ci Me" Mine look whisk proceeded Milts-
crisis eillabsine. The bill iatroduced by She aphis
loud it BM admitted panne
Y UN nab and direr lazatiesP=M:=
be was sre.iesd ti Lad owdlibed from his pear
assn. emeser sentared none at the simente d
kmaerzened re, he feared, the bin
imei by Mr.
es samener et re a new He re-
datualsorvielm openers Wdem Won, to the
segernis et Mr. night, ..a mead that
the Arno' of pedlar proved the 1adiallIMO• a the
emery. He awl the Apeuremen trier the chem.
shades, to einem their bid, aid amentaile their ster-
ns ea the mire imiadeir beano= et the ravine d the
emery.
MA 4111111DOIY viewed with ahem a bill whisk meld
eel reeniernee te numbers, and the mt.
VoCseijaeyei. lie retard of acre lay* nd
per braradr, to hie own syringe d the weeny el
Ile Arnim spier Asemisne le Imre' *Aid the
GM surly will eliallen sad the rut al
mop' ems apelled win • pridul iderestarea pus
gees et the .name; ad sir him it he 111041
iM his eyes to wire wasoiumsnrisi in their owe
sesentey spa the bill
he bream He teidg=anot hen pries is=
nee share data te NON sae er te mum=
WY. oldter Mir Tenn her it seamy to
seder pinindes. Be SINS peessided to grate a emir
ef ertedelee mesh M the sauterne' of the bow,
Musimaing the nary et the rink& in Ame-
ns—re Vie press smd theisratiag
bedise—the droll= d an purse eel
the use
hew
el ail prim is re The it=
in Arra is
=la oil end mar sera' essiseyalinajt mei=
• Jeep senviseise et the sereplMl eliewhise—en-
esquemes whine be bed man been pershett frees
e yeramme et the third I ea that be viewed with
emir and Morey the men et the peter .aeon.
He me wee net emend to the sat iia of ne wen-
d that and be dem by sere esenter.
Farrar nil ineentrese. lin he hair or& 744
ended le eenrielee. He wired for • more modenie
erensiss of the tenshir nil • (ertimr disfranchisement
of no men bereinn, bet he depend to =wieldy sonsti-
tensies being bemid ever, se he Arrive, to the ntensge-
ware el 41.11601111, end 'mediations, and to
the resegani seinemer ben pines d the most eminent
men ed the anon, a 6 a line whra ci all others, England
ward demi is used et bar Meer shier aid mar in-
balatriggals'ACßlLD depressed the ire of daddy In
die the wordy rem bed MIS yens of during this
dein The bee. petieree yes
An Buis. linari, who mend th=bTe counted.
A cceshbeehle sumbar of perserm seise in when the bell
▪ sad re rifer resent to 67.
yarn seellemed that if the house
het i I
sm emir hi:=l see have greatly regretted
th Marine 11101111..) Be real eindlthat it would her
ben a Ong trete to ids pekit it would is
been
&OM higher tribre to Ile psi ern at the home. fOlt,
oh.) He had Meer to the germ whir a her
tiara opposite weds ea etraysalder led whir smelly
required • rent effort et perms ; ad aow that Lie. pm
three oriel "Oh r The her priemint armed to think
not if the hems seer nap • inegunt into the ma and
bring it up tall d milltary Resler sal Lambeth scow-
ars, the emery would be tie hippie* la tits world.
(Lemobler) Prom • calculatioe glen by Dr. Mere bdore
• sommittse of the other house, append not in 73
rid 00,01125 parsedgefalihel= prridelliggienarap selr-
giem ee a At inield, the Trelopor demeediac
cont. of the }opt ; Leeda, 40 ;Southwark, 511;
herald
_ion- la ray 40 being a Timinal) ; Weermieror,
50; Laken 61a ; Thew fleadate, 55; Manchester, Off;
liainey„ ; Camped, 40. Be megratunted lan
ben on its proud superenty in irreheok is
alma, mud in ads beat*, sad also on its liens
by the benearable member
.oppedes.
madideigioZ" it:ed'ere iotiiteabir 6.441 LI e=
Lai=power, wee when" nerd Me the tern
were two ways el resift • bathe. Then was
11l yea ant, and there was elm die Pares prey ; end
tan the lamer whir the d the IN kr A-
land win the onetry &Meg regrew
bed
he had me i.e bat net der efforts word
Mr. W. D. SEYMOUR contended, in to Mr.
that the working cheese bed
elle ia education. moral ender reddest
Wide. sad he denied that the arguer& faded ea the
rang of democracy in America applied is this country.
eft= kill was bred nue prayer known to the
of this rinahry ; it was no seppereet of a
Ibmwee This\ bed Nlheete worked will, in "de of the
err amid prellri— It was agreed eat then must
rearm; this la was based open the et
adi
Ye resdientien et 1832 to that al he bellierni
would be, a terse repried the breares, satirmay to
Yr.
the wasalD ALL did sat eltbst M iter fair erratum of
eireist beer= the need 111101110bel of the right boa.
member tor Illuldesheeedies red hi opposition to this
hill; bed he denied dee anted unaaimity of the members
OM SO assurvallys Ale d ti hors with Newt to the
Reform Bill et lest per. Thin wen vary my who, like
himself. lleireed is
;sateoild arrow to the prucar of that
unfortunate as reprdsd ti 101. essety franchise,
they detereedl lii reesendrasse to the thee wise that
bill word hem pm ire err Alm Merman%
es the elt the right lea 'eraser a the searber tor
stangled an moor =se:
heaVralte aet the none ler rub' purr la
lir RAMODIIN said that ell prise is the been were
deal with the media The driester et die hour
arralaritiblippvernmentroust alibi seder by eepperemermed.
Hope bed bum ended whin it Turd dialgres to
ion. ad and they en ght legiade if perk this year.
Butif they lour thst the hn could sr le Inds sees*
able to the have sod the esunly, neer by sea imps
se the prreeneresidd ese emir to, or whisk th.e was
net time for then unillei4to censider, than,
r desired usher be a Aymara delal=
he
the diappointment d just \sue et the peers,
there was one thing whisk be depereed skin resee—
cm thing to whir ite hoped the bones aria word
✓ent—that was, to pm aa imperfect and rentideelety
measure by which troy might preteed redeem the
penes they ad Pre aid to perform a duly, Thee ie
reality they ware soh evading that duty—(eirers from the
impositios)—and sisminag the country by au illusive oar-
poneseest et a Mira whir was sure to mune look
epos them ia se respired inn le another year. (Hear
hoe.) say net dry tort pre something ma calj
aging la ether worth that they must sheet the sountry.
(Loud opposition cheers.) Time ought to Foto a eassasers
whir word he redbirds • to the hoer and the
eriestry, sad which word really strengths. the terrorism
d the gauntry, or they should par as. at all. (Her,
bear.) Tar brew weer it be to the pence
the. to dwil with it by • e errsial ad raireidevous nu
which, while emend much, would aerie
(semi
apperiims sheets.) While he wu readritift
Ilheee as keg es the mornmeest might call upon than Mao
to is tisiofor poteirottoos of the duty to which they
wars \stunted that the house would net mdertala
the purchasing itself relit, frets embarrammeat by
purest my temporary memo,., which would be elan de-
lusive m It. reneger, discreditable to the legislature, Int-
ts Mao people, atvi in the last degree drawer to
the arianal interior (Cheery )
Ns. WALPOLE admitted that there me much fens and
beam Is the odoeustions of flir J. Rarden. Win raped
to the anemia of the borough Amenas proposed by the
BM %Aft,thu ortarples if the Reform Act as his guide,
he joined ire with Lard J. Russell as to whether the
primaries of this bill were identical with those of the
ed. The crowed policy of Lord John, in his previous
hills, wee to intreelsee a
n•warisedwelif humbles ; so that
be had deviated hem the he had himself
emersibel With Tepid to ebereeter d the sew
suesirmay, the bill would throw se err preponderame
into the heads el a clam not qualified by education and
states to 461111110/111 the franchise wisely, end who were
posediry =par to Moroi and cerrytion. Then. with
roper to the imenty mesmeriser, the clomp introduced
by the bin altered its whole character, end militated
agaled a knows principle d the coaritudoe, sad
it owl old ie totobbabi a lemegemous
ratios, which word brag bee the house one clam
cry of member, instead of ne parer variety, contrary
tooth=orrognier by Lod J. Reseed himself. Tliat
prp wenn property and occupatioe would be
=rateurri by the hall, and Mr. Mill hod shown the
riser d each &change. A variety of (milieu
aid • variety of eonditeenciai had an important inilassioe
coon the 'harrier of that hoar, and he doubted whither
its delberaticir would be most jut or its decisions mare
weed V men hum the country, the representatives d
proper% won excluded. If the bill mead in its
- =form the same policy must carry the le-
to mash greater lengthy They had all
Todmot to oppose the second reading of the
aad he entirely concurred is that rune ; bat he did
se r serer which preps were different from dome d
may hoe. gentieres. He thought they were hood to
sweet the second reading, because a pledge bed been
given so repeetedl444 so solemnly—gt yen by the
crown, by that sad by the whole parliament--
Wt they would mopes oud consider the guidon of puha-
. merry reform. (Hem hear.) Nothing could be mote
swum or unjustifiable, after pram such a pledge, as to
deny with the garbs --Lchiers)—to leave it hanging and
to allow it to become the mitcherious theme of
ariarthltary agitators, or to diuppoint the just expects-
, which they had raised moa n the people. (Renewed
! eheers.) These were the why tbe (Mr. Walpole)
• did, or rather why he should have supported the hill' be-
l. fere the Later reams ; bat he briskly owned that crewe-
renew had occurred sine* which seemed to him of so
shrift a character that he Melte knew what he ought to
thisli or what be ought to do. (Heir, hear.) Two cuvorn-
' Wares bad ulna or-cared They had now been told on
undoubted authority that the announced interim of re-

ME EXPRESS. FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 4, 1860.

opening the subject at puliamentery reform wee made by
the I,lzil Miabler cd the Crown without the knowledge or
mead et Ids eelliegnet
Lord J. RI7II.ML—Not true. (Load sheer..)

WALPOLZ the paled vas so hi that he
was nriftliMir gal the melds ard bed igged
arndbhThe sale ad mat la skAsouri Vow ifai
believed Bet a alliegme el the male lord
bed at say rite said tat whom the plegood was afterwards
muds be, bag • immage of the parmage,itheepreed with
art peptuel, air semesead a it became be felt that
•is as pla to be male lig In • of
whisk be Mid the meals gf ease. ,I=l",terartedisithe
male seat twat es to say that he messed eed repotted
the /alas he bad ma. This restiesi had bow before
the pane, ad ygt dove to the preeset inegosat It hid
War bees ogehadisted. Of coarse, after the dual of
the meta kid, be Gould met psis that ciremesteste
qqseg the hoer" bat he was Tomato' that late that
11•11 ads the noble lord bad sarong the bows
ea the embjest d the bin, and yet gam no
any memer mightel=t;
=itlathat = aill"
cutell4 explanationb peas mode they an
armee& be rusk* the statement as ha. pas, her.)
The star eirsemehmes to which he referrail wee Ids era-
diet gf the goverament le dealing with tbh paths to •
di!/et way be the We began of paramemL
aim cam) Is that be., they won to bego
gay, bet im tie sage hems em *pity :biagreg se„ .ad
yet the maw Wan arm we erne
sememesd la Maas IMMO OlNlMllladisdraisdigt7lma.
lie Thad Is Low is eat by if
_mass for wield
be pissed ff airy geogesied with the
Mires
amd swift up to
the sage hems of padleash he *why would
be sagas et it weal ma. If it were set ..
them as agagge mead be hid am the thelf,Zitry
weal& be aggeN4, boar little more about it. If the im.
=Oa:a be sagas, and it turned out that the ha-
d the gememegent bad not been and amis.
rete, in what • Issmilearg position would that house be
placed. (Hoar, hear.) The rumors would be seat hack
with the mammas that they were peoewag upon im-
perfect data, mil they would cut a Opus which would be
Lytham' baseedilmae elate VIM Of 'broad. (Sew.) take
these areemmilaige II ems Mara to know what was beet

to bodes& Oe the ens head. he ;at •i 4 to to Ml*
tahlrettegiges W the beery lessees he thought the
4 the pseoe enght not to be harted.
if, as the ether lassie thin Erasure waa not a heel
met ad the
hewn qwwilen, nothleg could be mare ndeshissees
ass to this snidest al agitation fretting theargh
ell the sendiessnele• (Haar, hear.) He wesemo
lowed the noble hid the member for the City of Leman
et the V* el to &Ism Bin telling him sa seendein
The noble lad tali his that en the eve of peep:wig liBl
Rama Ant he bed • eonimmietian with the Anmehme
bye
limb* empremil MINN with &surlily es to sill
be wee tient to din sod laving mid thee seek eazielp eft
founded epos the hid that he wee de. with • sesillie.
' tits which bed Imbed so keg, the Aweless weir ire.
" 8o loasntinda so stasing." Mew hem) Me
loand the sib the _ sial sailitslies eves
of history. t hod eneftd Ode ser=zbkam
es trim. Ober, leer.) The and
mooed ocastatstr—the oonette web mks re A',
form Act of 1883—was not mesh ether then the pimp*
member is the berm end&i.le Gat pm* tatiowr
all
life was sew immilsieg IL isms)
they were pecreeitifing apes 4....inforniathe he flk.
Walpole) could not pretend to state, but be mud may the d the
44
only principle on which they could proceed with an 4 elms
of settling the question permanently wee the that
would not bees the franchise
on the lewesh ad
mart unedertted demos, but on the rad saw
eased elaree—naser, bear)— the prim** would glee
intelligens, its proper weight and semslikestien. help In
harmony an our lostitittioes, and seemed espoesstedes
with pro, with with fsel sal had&
,rp- (ra. .) If they did they . elleld Wilk
the bill with some degree of j lit EOM
thou now, wisely end wail Hat V thiljirressmant
did not, they might have the tnieogit el
a measure white could not kik end whalte
man approved et, while the opt side "Me '
house would have the estidactMn of thinking that by the
principles they tlMlllialle bed advocated they had
but am end, Om*, to .seed and improve, and
they amended and improved, to uphold and midi NM
constitution whit lay what they weight, had bets mews
conducive to real freedom the. &WI constitute,' devised by
the wit of mem Ise the hippies= and good government
of • people. ((bens.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he
was perplexed by the perplexities of his right hon. friend,
who admitted the danger of denying with the qusehis,
while he, in his own way, wan dallying with it lima Ad-
mitting the usefulness of diseniden„ he repreinded the
abuse of It, which seemed likely to deursides the se.'
form debates, without
stsiiiiipming modes, or my ewe.
tautly elifed foe of the hems
Hs sailed men then to reuse 2:".11 bestial!' team tie
unmanly bides in which It we kept sespesiell
before the miles. Admitting gist, by looldsig lee
every desm. of social power that might be admilled
to the headmen the ministry inli* have rani in
more oeseplehe he iisehared that • sin 0 1111/1110 wee
more likely Mahe esen twasived and emskil. It
was set lassie se the present systole was bed, hesesime It
wee earespinie el ftgroveseente that sessesive glisers-
meets had **pi themselves to II ra
pMAI AM
which *der * woe inernbent upon the unnet
le MIL lbw et the ride mind
government le as ekhelleir or seasisas in the bill
might well be mane el Alheineine is eanneiten, such as
the questions el sengennil inenshelders and fancy flan-
chime. Raring loy sEf them the reel principle of the bill
which excited so mob alma wee the introduction of the
IL franchise. He world not admit the charges brought
spinet the inteadlesta the lwinigenee, or the principles
of the working Omsk and &mild that • reduction
from 101. to W. yrs ementially deireiseetlng the scestitu-
secy. No doubt tie greet shiest woe to pen • permanent
swan, but then shiest would not be attained by
=ig the mead peedble modicum of reform, or by in-
to admit • silent proportion of the working
dares He seined Het the 8/. franchise admitted the
most intelligent el the working
with the quantity el the new
electoral body. It egad.~ be believed, be deneemstmliel
that the numbers ~led under the 61. fremohinv
could not possibly ensued 11.40014 and would net pebb•
bly exceed 180,0 ft The sight boa. gentlemen medinineil—
We are not wag to edepl the laws of our colosiee, mid
even I/ we dsd, -ay eginien is that such is the attachment
of the working amen of this country, not only to its laws
and imitation% but to their social effects even &mune. the
Wadi, oommenity, but still more is the rural detzZ
that even with an extended popular suffrage yen
coatinne to nee the monarchy and the anstotesey el the
.come, famish as they now do by the free west el the
eountry. What is it in the main that supports them now ?I
don't 'appose tbat it 'Any of our conventional arrangements.
It is the heart, the inclinations, the habits, the traditions,
H:O6V sense, sat, the convictions of the mares of the
p, that very same feeling, that same tone of character
and of sentiment, which has made the workiogelesses n;
pose themselves contentedly in your arms and mewl your
legislation for vests without a murmur. That more halm
would make Mime still more contented and still mere hut.
worthy as the main supports of the institutions el the
country even if you made such an elchtios to the MOW
asstedportion of them as is contemplated by the
Ma These, I think, are the views, but, of course, 17,:ri,
without authority, by which we have been actuated
in hunting thie bill. I would again venture to
wars my hon. friend against supposing that while
I agree that we ought to look to permanence in • measure
of this kind, we are likely to gain permanence by asking
• stinted and an unappreciable admission of the was
chasm I cannot help recollecting the earl heiewillwe
made by the right hon. member for Braking ma
the sedden al parliamentary reform in the yakllli—
=a., that, though he would not commit hill le the
that the time bed come fora further eademeet '
the repreesstatios, he wad convinced that whin Sri Yoe
did sense the cesellor the north% eines mot
be dealt ebb. Under theme eirunnielesese I shield
have supplied that these natters of dein *OA ban
bean settled in committee, and that we might hen ear.
Saved to open the door of that committee with less Yee .
six nights previous debate. I listened with some wawa um
prise to the qmoomb ad the hon. member for nedner who
gloried in two Hags, namely, that he moved the
of the Oki weft of the bill of 1831, and that
decided em the peseast bill to give no vote at ell. I mid=
I do not think Chet line of conduct is understood out el
doors. I think that the idea of the nation is that this
house is sot a discussion forum but is a deliberative
amenbly sod that the appropriate mode for an bon, mem-
ber to Mit is expressing his opinion is by his votes. Ity
Us. friend mid the mar course W been purrued on both
*end the hews, but that is far from the case, though I
hod* mew that the bill has been considerably critilised
es this side of the house. But the criticisms on this oil%
lave bowl frank and have indicated what are considered to
he faults of the bill, accompanied with strong declaratioes
dint the bill ought to go forward and be discussed Ia cos-
Wiese with the hope of arriving at • practical solution.
Het that is nut the doctrine that has come to us reins-
nesnded Ira the other side of the house. The right hoc.
piellensa the member fur Ducks in opening the debate re-
senensmided the withdrawal of the till. My right hos.
fiord the member for Hertfordshire, whom good faith in
nada, the recommendation no man can doubt, also re-
essamemied the withdrawal of the bill. I think that both
these right hoct gentlemen must have known that at any
rate the owns they were recommending was one which it
wee quits haponsible for the government to adopt. Bat at
say mes, whether they knew it or not., in any opinion any
whisk would introduce this bill with so little
upoelits for the discussion of it that they would have
withdraw It, would cover itself with irretrievable
disgrace: and se such intention, no such desire,
bee ever Uses esterteird by us. But if gentlemen
opposite see el *Nies est the bill should be put out of
the way, the musk Is le their own hands. If the house
of Comma le el erbion that the bill should not be pro.
goaded wills. Ist them take the power which is in their owe
hand' sad vilest it. Bat this at all events let them not
In let them net oversee • coon' which will end in
maths
finpassabitty. That is a course which for 511 = we
he het We have come to a time when this has
beim • pullets for the House of Commons. Fora long
time *hues not a question for the House of easinions.
It began by • esemal vote- an unfortunate vote, I think—of
a ronjority eif thh house. Upou that. war founded the de.
..lazaton of my noble friend, then Cie heal of the govern.
neat, and fur nearly lii years the question of reform

' tons same • t=ima ei public man and of pi).
litical parties of the House of Oommons.
Let VOW them Was • change in its portion. Lest year
the gewerontuet miss* submitted to parliament a
bill fee the rneas d sammiling the representation of the
=rod if there were • disposition to retort the tents
been thrown mit es Ws rewire with rind to
the midis of the ipoveressinat hill by supporters of the
it wisaid be very easy to send abundant roman
fcc:evamirrat'selsets by retinae to the debates of last year.
(Cluperio 14 as the bon. umber for Radnor said, my
noble Weed wee happy in having at length got • supporter,
I think he will happy
that the late government was
=Pila passing through the whole of those debates,
nner having mot an independent supporter. But
that is gone by ; and what I wished to remind the house
of was this, that last year the question passed
oat of the sphere and domain of government,
and wee made a Tertian of the House of Commons. The
question was robed** to the Home of Gameness, and it
was met by • (Nitro* mother which bound the he to
• distinct which easy lave been wise or may have
been unwise.e
(OmserraUve cheers.) I had my own opi-
nion alit at the time, but at any rate it was • straight-
fantod and intelligent course. ("Oh, oh," and cheers.)
I will not eater into the debate on the motion, but the
members of the house were perfectly entitled to express
their views. Throe:tad within the limits of parliamentary
maga. They mode • phis declaration, and upon that de-
aimed= they were to go, and did go, to their con-
stituents. It appears to me that that was • very
preferable come*, as far as the public interests were con-
cerned, to the coarse that is now =rued. My hon.
friend the member for the West has said it
weld be much better to pen roethis subject altogether
then pros a bad measure. ( cheers.) By all
swum let those who thick
.so, and who think this is • bed
inemsee, e*xpress their ppm= by their votes. If they are
in a maim, they will depose of a bad measure ; if they
are in a tority, at least their own consciences will be
relieved. Bat I think my bon. friend will perceive that
the choice which will then be offered to as between pawag
a had measure and passing. no measure at all would be •
very elm disioe. There oae portion of this house who
think the subject of reform of the representation dangerous,
and there is another portico who think it ode. But those who
think it daeFgerzust admit that by delay it will
beams more • and certainly I for one, as our of
three who think t at pries* safe, profoundly feel that by
delay it will become dengesem. First of all, it will broom
male by delay, if rofertimmtely there should get abroad
W weirs that the manure bad been defeated indirectly,
aid if these who felt it ineerousient to place their opinions
on record In the form of • definite proposition, yst, know-
ing that the time el the house is limited, evade that which
they do not dare to mesL I trust that, whatever course is
taken, trot may as. be taken. By all means let us pet
into committee, and let se then have that discussion which
the nature of the ewe requires that we should have. I
cannot my that I feel convinced that we have made in
six days progress in proportion to the time. The house
will remember that of all the Masai* and all the risk
then is no risk so gnat as that of words' to dolly with
this peat and vital heath:ua beasts* by pursuing such
• coulee, a corms Sable to that interpreta-
tion, we sheß permanently the institutions
of thi day, awl we siell* ens* destroy our owncapacity
far good, by trapairrog the essidemee and the
which during saw generations the House of Commons by
y*
owe
and senior, has earned at the bands of
thfriioge.
LL.a.depoakehmrs'agelnat the measure amidst much
intstroption.
The motion for the sewed reading of the bill was then
put from the chair, and tarried without a division. Then
was much cheering on the ministerial side.
Lord J. RU then said— The house must be
aware that other business of importanoe has been
pnetpesed m account of the
_protracted debate on the
mooed reading of this bill. We have likewise considered
that it would be inoonronient to the house to propose to go
into amenities on the bill, and to have that committee im-
inedistely Interrupted by the Whitsuntide holidays. Upon
theme considerations I propose that the bill should be com-
mitted en Monday, June 4. (Ironical cheers from the
Ogiprotion.)
'The other orders of the day being then called on
Mr. WHITESIDE asked whether it was intended to go
on with the Irish Reform Bill, which was the next order of
the day ?
Mr. P. O'BRIEN asked at what time it waslikely to be
taken, and whether prior to to into committee on the
Englidi Reform Rif otherwise'.'

Mr. CARDWELL said the house would go into commit-
tee
tee ow the English Reform Bill before the mooed reading of
DM bill.

Tie Wine Licenses and Refreshment Houses Bill, ad.
=tdebate on the second reading, was amid by Mr.
or the lint thing on Monday.
Mr. MACKINNON gave notice to move, on going into a
committee of the whole house on the Reform Bill, that in
ceder to obtain a safe and effective reform it would be inex-
pedient and unjust to proceed farther with the proposed
.lative measure for the representation of the
until the house has before it the results of the camas &Prat
rimed by the bill now wider its 000sideration.

BANK OF IRELAND BILL
This bill missed through committee.
ECCLESIASTICAL COURTS JURISDICTION BILL.
This bill was read ► third time ►od p►ssed.
The house adjourned ►t ten minutes to one o'clock.

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of marriage,=ith regard to the seduction, the .
plaintiff had other
The jury returned •
verdict for the plaintiff—damages, I
350/.