The Express.
London, England, 1860-02-08 00:00:00

with Kr. Brno', bee Majney's Plenipotentiary in

TES lONIAN ISLANDS.

Mr. MAGMAS gave sense theism Pain; nest ho should
ask the Firet Lord of the Tammy as is wee the in-
tention of the postnasal to predate as maths( to
me sham of the Sight Han. W. I. as High
Coaunisiosor to the halm Lauds, sad if so, at what time
they went likely to be laid spat the table.
SAVINGS BANKS.
Returns on the =toast of savings beaks wire ordered, on
the motion of Mr. Luxe.

THE COMMERCIAL TREATY WITH FRANCE.
Mr. 8. FITZGERALD eald—Str, I think the house
undentood from the noble lord (Palmerton) last night, that
the noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Alhin would lay the
commercial treaty,whick has lately been ratified with Frame,
ea the tabled the house en Friday next. Since that time
what appear to me to be the ocaltats of that treaty bare
been published in a foreign journal, and havabsen copied into
every journal in the instropolle. Now, I would not urge,
after what fell from the noble lord yesterday, upon the noble
lord (J. &meal) the production of this treaty were
Friday, were it not that while the possession of no
information might be very ineonvenient to persona engaged
in trade with Franco; the possession of information im-
perfect and more or lees incorrect, may lead to still more
onions inconvenient.. (Hear, bear.) I should therefore
like to ask the noble lord if he will inform the hones whether
the maim of the treaty given in the reerning journals is
saidentially accurate or not. (Hear, hear.)
Lard J. RUSSELL—I oannot say that I read with any
attention that version of the oonamerelal treaty wbleh was
given in the perm this socrainge No doubt it le partly
accurate; but Ido not Wok a treaty of cosauseroe of that
kind, containing many complicated provisions, could be
pmperly understood unless the whole treaty were practiced.
I papaw to lay the whole treaty on the table by her Ma-
jesty's command on Friday next.
REGISTRATION OP BIRTHS AND DEATHS IN

IRELAND.
In reply to a question from Sir F. 11140ATA
Mr. ARDWELL said that it wu his intention to bring
in • measure this session for the compulsory registration of
births and deaths in Ireland.
THE ITALIAN QUESTION.

Lord C. HAMILTON asked the liseretary of State
for Fortdgn Affairs, if It was true that Lord Cowley had
been instructed to communicate to the French government
a project for the definitive settlement of the Italian question ;
If so, whether the detail. of that project have been carried
ont ; and Use, whether he had any objection to communicate
the details of that project to the house.

Lord J. RUSSELL—Sir, It will be necessary for me, in
order to give satisfaction to the noble lord, to enter into some
momt of what has taken place. I cannot at present pre-
date papers, bemuse there is a negotiation now going on,
which however may be aeon in such a state that I may be
enabled to lay the papers on the table of the house. But
what has passed Is this : The house is aware, from her Ma-
jesty's speech, that her Majesty was invited to the part in
• conference or congress respecting the affairs of Italy. At
a attain period, when it was expected that that congress
would meet, we received Information from the French go-
vernment that that congress was adjourned sine die, but that
we should be informed if there were any intention that it
should assemble hereafter. It was said that the delay, or
rather the entire postponement of the congress, was owing to
the publication of an anonymous pamphlet at Paris. But be
that as it may, her Majesty's government felt that it would be
• very serious condition of things if the Italians, who have
been hitherto waiting in expectation that Italian affairs would
be settled by a congress, should have no regular form of go-
vernment, and no apparent means of solving the difficulties
in which they wore placed. Her Majesty's government
therefore made a proposition to the government of Franca
sad the government of Austria, with a view to the definitive
solution of the Italian question. These proposals were con-
tained in • despatch to Lord Cowley, dated, I think, the 14th
of January. It was proposed in the first two of these pro-
posals, that, as the rivalry of France and Austria had oc-
casioned great evils to Italy and great dangers to Europe,
these two powers should consent in future not to internee
by form In the internal *fries of Italy, without the consent
of the five great powers of Europe. It was proposed also,
in eoesequenoe, that the French troops should, at • °ca-
nniest time, and with all proper precautions, withdraw
from Lombardy and the Roman states. By the third pro-
position it was proposed that the governments of Europe
should not interfere in the internal government of Venetia,
and that no proposal should be made in order to regulate the
internal government of Venetia by the Emperor of Austria.
To these three proposals the government of France, with
certain modifications as to the time and seasons of withdraw-
ing their troops, gave their ready cement. With respect to
the fourth proposition, they begged to have timeto consider it,
and time also to communicate with the government of
Austria. The fourth proposition was to the effect that the
King of Sardinia should be asked not to send any troops into
Central Italy, until there should be an opportunity, by a new
election and a new vote of the states and previews of
Canoe! Italy, to obtain • clear and unbiassed ex-
pression of their wishes with respect to their
future destiny—that, if them wishes should be in
favour of annexation to Sardinia, then that restriction which
it was proposed to oak the King of Sardinia to place upon
himself should be removed, end that there should be no
objection made to his introducing his troops Into the pro-
vinces of Central Italy ; these provinoes, of mune, having
declared that they would no longer obey their former sove-
reigns. The Free& government have accordingly com-
municated with the government of Austria on that subject,
and no official communication of the deviate° of the Alumni
government has been received. But this very morning I
received a deepatoh, saying that • communication has been
made to Count Rechberg, that Count Beanbag has proposed
to take the Emperor's otders, and that he could not give any
official ;answer without receiving the commands °Shia &ove-
rdo:With roomette °amino, the Austrian government, upon
receiving a communication of the three propositions to which
France has [given her consent, objected that it was not in
conformity with their views end opinions as to the rights of
sovereignty to make say absolute engagement with regard
to nos-intervention. With regard to the fourth proposal they
declared that they could not acknowledge or recognise • state
of things in hely which bad arisen from insurrection. At
the same time Count Reobberg declared to Lord Adolphus
Loftus, at Vienna, and Count Apponyl said to me in London.
that the Austrian government had no intention whatever to
interfere with affairs in Italy ; that they were not going to
send any troops beyond their own frontiers ; but would con-
fine themselves strictly to the defence of their own posses-
noes, which were declared by treaty to form a
portion of the dominions of the Emperor of Austria.
These dedarations, combined with the willingness
of the French government to entertain the first three
proposals, give great hope that we shall arrive in time
M • setthement of Italy, such that, although it may not be
inunediately acknowledged by all the powers of Europe, it
may at the same time be a pacific settlement, and will give
us reason to think there will be no renewal of the war. I
should state that immediately alter these oorotounicetione
with the governments of France and Austria I directed a
communication to be made of the detail. of these proposals to
the governments of Preens and Russia, for their information
and subsequent consideration. With regard to Russia, I
have not received any answer whatever. The Prussian go-
vernment have not toads soy objection to the proposals, hut
have delayed making • (incite mower tall the opinions of
France sad Austria shall have been ascertained. The noble
lord will therefore; see that them are rather the beginning•
of negotiations, and that I am not authorised by her Ma-
jesty at present to lay the papers on the table. (Boa.)

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COMMITTEE ON THE DOCKYARDS.
Mr. KINNAIRD asked the Secretary of the Admiralty
what steps the Board of Admiralty bad taken, or were about
to take, to carry out the recommendations contained in the
report of the committee of inquiry on the economy of her
Majesty's dockyards presided over by Admiral Smart, end
in the report of the committee on steam machinery, presided
over by Adiatral Rimmay.
Lord 0. PAGET said that the Admiralty had taken under
their fallen mmeideestion the reports of the two committers
to which the boa. member had alluded. They bad been able
to carry oat varleee recommendation, of then anintoitteil• ;
bat with regard to soma very Imperiled recoauceadeNona,
they bad thee& It right to ask what were the oplaions of
some of the prlaelpel dockyard °Mona, nob as the
amementembleeeral as well as the superistereleat of dock-
yards. The ebeervatieee of those officers be hoped to to
able to ley ea the table to•morrew, sad she a memorandum
draws up by the Dyke of Somerset, who bed glees clthe
Mole et tie dockyard =pewee semi reconsideration.
AMOS' VISSIMINII which bed bass carried out
soy That of supply* a slairmit it the upesees