The Express.
London, England, 1856-04-25 00:00:00

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able to make a hone. (Loud laughter.) Aud whoa the
time did arrive, I apprehend you never saw a house so to-
cola ntabie. But if such was the fate of the House of
Commons, the fate of the other how* of parliament was
even worse, and it was not until broad daylight this morn-
this that some of those who had trusted implicitly to the
government a gemeats were able to pacts their homey.
Some of the bishops are completely exhausts el. (Laughter.)
However, I am given to understand that these right
reverend prelates may men recover, and therefore we may
congratulate ourselves that no member of either house of
parliament has been drowned on this occasion. W..ether it
was intended that these arrangements should predispose us
to peace, whatever the terms of that peace might b., seeing
to whom we were lb trait the management of our naval
Wei rr ,I do not know. We have had the experiment of
trusting the government both by land and by water, and
shall soon have to trust them in another and more inflam-
mable element. I would suggest that, in addition to the
fireworks already directed, one particular disphay 'tumid be
dedicated to the happy deli of those members of the
Houses of Lords and Commons who had trusted themselves
to the tender ears of her Majesty's goverament. (Load
cheers and laughter.)
L'rl W. POULETT—Nothing could be so discreditable
'as the whole of the proceedings. The government wealth
be rsepossible fee the ~leet of the vaileray aislele Ist
it was their duty to take care that the ships that were at-
pointed to convey the two houses.( parliament to sea were
in en effective state. I came up to the Transit, and was
desired to get into it, as in all probability the Opp that was
to convey the Hoes* of Commons would not embark till
four o'clock. 1 got into the Transit, and remained Us that
ship the whole day. The whole of her machinery wee out
of order. [A Member : She broke down the day before.]
She not only bloke down, but the machinery would nut
sot, and I was told by the captain that he knew well the
ship was ia an inefficient state. We were stepped altogether
it r half an hoar. Then again, when we returned in the
evening, there was no train in waiting for the House of
Lords, and when it was found, it took us four hours and a
halt to come from Southampton to this metropolis.
Mr. O. STANLEY—When, a few days since, I asked a
question cf the First Lord of the Admiralty, the right hos.
gentleman told me that if I did Dot like the art augetteuto
I might stop at home. (Laughter) Ima only say that if
we had thea been told what the arrangements would be I
should have been very 'lad to have stopped at home.
Lord PALMERSTON—I put it to hon. gentlemen o:
site whetter we should not po toone this diem scion till my
right hon. friend the First Lord of the Admiralty has re-
turned to tows from Portsmouth, where be is at present
detained. (Loud laughter.) lam unable of course to enter
foto an explacation of the arrangements made by the Ad-
miralty, and I em quite sure that when my right hos.
friend is in his place he will be able to it:plain that the Ad-
miralty made prospectively the beet gements they
eould. There was undoubtedly great delay in get'ing from
London to Portsmouth. I myself can bear whom to that,
for I was ia the railway from seven in the moraiog till
past twelve. At Basingstoke, ore of the officers add
as that the train wt.ich coutained the Horse of Com-
mons was going to Bouthampton. It is well known
that at that time the steamer that was to wea-
ve, the member, of the Hoses of Commons was
unable to lay to at a moderate distance. (" No, no.")
I em told that that was so. end that no doobt pr iduced the
difficulty la going from Southampton to the vessel which
was destined so colossiy the nee. ben to the fleet. I am
quite sure my right hom friend will regret it if there was
any error in the arrangements, but I smuts et to the hos.
gentleman who has made this motion, th it no advantage
will arise in delayirg this business of the house on account
of a discussion which cannot take place satisfactorily until
my right hon. fint is ia his place.
Colonel NORTH—The Secretary to the T y, it,
seems, is oleo detained somewhere. I wish to know if the
ele rks of the Treasury embarked at Portsmouth ; and. if so,
why the members of the House of Commons and the House
of Lords could not have embarked there also, instead of st
Southampton ? leen only add my testimony to what has
been raid as to she badness of the arrangements. I bepe that
in future, blue books and commissions of inquiry with re-
gard to the gallant officers who have served in ho h service•
will cease, and that the country will lee that mishaps are the
fault of Misgovernment, and will put the saddle on the right
hone.
Mr. H. HERBERT said he was oce of the first members
who were on board the Perseverance yesterday, and he
t"eueht it right to bear his testimony to the courteous and
obliging conduct of the captain and officers of that vessel
(Hear, hear.) As f.r as p ssible everything wan dose that
could be dose by Captain Macdonald and his officers to oh
elite as much as in them lay the incoaveniescee to which
they were subject. His vessel was in order; and. if it had
not been for the delay elsewhere, the House of Commons
would have been at the place appointed in due time.
Mr. NEWDEOATE remarked that, thrush they had
reason to complain of the conduct of the Admiral y, they
had also great MOOD to complain of the railway e aminthy.
He should be glad to Nis the hon. member for Salisbury in
his place, to espial°, if he could, the mismanagement of the

railway company.
Capt. SCOBELL SW no gond in welting for the First
Lord of the Admiralty, be canes he would be sure to he per-
fectly unswate of the irconveoience they were sotket to,
and to say that be could not help it. He (Capt. &obeli)
could assure the henget that the Transit was so bad that it
was only by great Peru ye they were able to pet back.
When they pot to Sonthemp.os there were no means of
reaching their weds but swimming for it. Of elutes
the First Lord of the Admiralty was occupied in mann-
ing the British fleet. That was an rceunetion
well worthy the att,n.ion of any man. That h use
had great reason to °mask'. There was not one member
of the goverment ready to receive them. (Hear, hear.)
He did not speak of the Cabinet Ministers—bat there was
note single member of the government. No doubt they were
better provided for somewhere elite, and he thought sem
or other of them .hould have sacrificed their ctmftrt and
takes their chance with the House of. Commons. He re-
peened that there wee not a single eai intr chin in the fleet.
The review was incomplete without minty shim, and it
wee a mistake to suppose that they cold do without them.

Sir G. GREY said, when hie right bon. friend was pre-
sent be wu sure he would stole that the arras retests
made by the Board of Admiralty wen made to aecommc-
Awe the greatest number of parsons, and such as would re-
flect the grektest credit on the naval administratica.
(Laughter) He was sure that fore'paers is well as the
mitigate of her Mojesty who caw the efficiency of the fleet
end the in in which it was rearm kvred would—
(Cries of tt Cloestion." in which the remoioder of the sew
tem, war drowned.) His hen. fr:end behind him (Mr. O.
S'anley) totally misapprehended his right hon. friend the
other oight. He believed that when they did get on beard
Keg wee **Cofactor!, and all they had to complain
of was the difficulty is (ethnic on board. The government
was not re sposoible for the difficulty with regard to the rail-
way, aid as to the aoraagements frr getting on locoed the
'hip his right hon. freed would no doubt be able to espl kin it.
With regard to no member of the Board of Admiralty being
there to receive the members, be might at etc that the whole
of the Board of Admiralty were, by her Majesty's com-
mand, in attenderce OR her Majesty.
Mr. HOWARD must say be thought erect injustice had
been done to the First Lord of the Admiralty.

Captain BUNCOMBE r.m,rked that it was well known
that the Transit had broken down, sad that her machinery,
mould not act.
Leet fIR ANDY meet *ay that the naval errangements of
the Admiralty re fleeted street credit upon them, and he
thossht the Souse of Commons had some reason
to complain that they bat not IMO share in the
arrangements that *ere made for the rest. The
review wee. no doubt, a magnifloent spicteele; but
rtanately the Boum of Commons did not witness it
(Cheer..) What they waned to have seen wee, whether
any improvemeat bed taken place in the adnitnietrative
ability of the Admiral.y. (Cheer,.) Bet after whet they
had observed at Southampton, which was only 76 miles
from ihi miropolio. c Add they wonder at the state into
which Selektive Har'ronr, at the dotance of 3,000 miles
from this mein, had got ? (Cher n.)
Mr. PEACOACE understood thot the refreshments pro-
vided for the two homes of parliament bad bees entreated
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for at 71 61. per head. (Oh !") Motet ver that might have
been, there wee no doubt that the Admiralty hod taken a
great deal better rare of themselves than they bed of the
!eßi•latare. (Chime.) He understood that even their
clerks had been supplied with all the deliosers of the ernsoo.
(" Oh," and leuebter ) He eerteioly th,ught that the
member* of the Howe of Lords, considering that they had
ladies with them, were entitled to at least the same refresh-
ments as were provided for the clerks of the Admiralty
(Cheers end laughter.)
Mr. KENNEDY considered that the defects in the at.
rsogrmeute of the day were entir-ly owing to the railway
management, and he should take the earliest °meth.
nity of moving for • commit:es to inquire into the whole
matter.
The motion for the adjournment of the house was then
I pit aid negatived.
THE AMERICAN QUESTION.
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Lard PALlifißifoil. ;rotrg— commend of ber
Mojesty, DOM correspondenes Impeller/ Central America,
sac it was °Mersa to be laid noon the table.
Mr. BAILLIE asked when the capers relating to the ea•
lie next questwo molar, be reedy ?
Lord PALMERSTON wee not *We to ers'e the Gloat
day. His noble friend (the Earl of C'arendoe) had not re-
turned to this esantry so early as he had especial ; but the
papers would be Mid ou the table as speedily es possible.
Sir B. B. LYTTON said he would take an early op-
portunity of eating the terms of hie motion oaths subject
of Central Americo.
THE CIVIL SERVICE. _ _ _

pies eat GonEi ;;--address to tb k
LacUojesty for bavisg caused to be Lid before this Low

the ',Port of the Civil Service Commissi: To stte
hembly Yes hi r Majesty that this house has oheonerservee, with
geese settifictioe, the zeal and prudence with which the
cosemtssienete have proceeded in app"ying • remedy to evils
of • serious cbaninter, the previous matencs c f which has
cow been placed beyond dispute. end also the gree of
progress that has been made, with the esuction of the heads
of various departments of the state, towards the e..ta,lith-
mint if • system of competition metre candie!stts for ad•
mission to the civil service: To suers her Majesty of the
steady support of this house in the prosecution of the salu-
tary measures which the has been gr -ciouslv p:eaerd to
adopt; and humbly to make Icemen to her elej, sty that if
she shall thick fit farther to extend them, and to male trial
in the civil service of the method of open comp. titi4. CO
condition of entrance, this hens@ will cheerfully pioeide for
any charges which the adoption of that system may entail,
they were boned, as they refused direct mews, to maker
use of every indirect means in their power far promoting
oduestion • and this which he prop.ted would he more
effectual than throwing open colleges and eadowmeets. In
In government like once, where no political chief hod a long
tenure of pewee, it wee most inspertut that the permanent
subordinate offices should be well filled. It had been said
Waif the open system was adopted they stoeld destroy the
Sesseitotion and the libestes of England. lie thought the
hlstom most nroustiteslonal; fir neither the
at pulisesent who recommeaded the emeloyes,
nee those who appointed them, ever lo• livei to the fliness of
the candidate. Members gave recommendations with •
view to the next election; • young man was • legible. not on
account of his attainmente, but becaute his fathte was
an "old reformer" or • "good c niservative." The
system had a bad effs et on the members of that
hum ; it tended to degrade them into mere delegates and
distributors of patronage, instead of leaving them at liberty
le vete in that house according to the requirements of the
peblie Interest. By adopting the system proposed they
Weald hue a guarantee foe the public service being well
performed, they would encourage education throughout the
seentry, and would show that only intelligence and ability
Isere eligible for public employments. (Rear, hest )
Sir STAFFORD NORTHCOTE, in sec iodise the mo-
Vets, expressed the pleasure be felt at hearing the ques-
tion so temperately manned. Re was satisfied that thou
who objected to the principle of open competition were ob-
jecting to something which was really not advocated by the
sat porters of the system proposed.
Toe CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted the
benefits cierived from • qualified adoption of the competitive
principle. There were, nevertheless, he contended, many
reasons why that tyitem should be introduced under many
limitations,insisting especially on the necessity of avoiding
any steps which could hamper the discretion and extinguish
the respoasibility of the government. Believing that the
plan at moment adopted was wicking well, and that furher
measures for the development of the principle of con peti-
tion should be left is the hands of the executive, the r ght
hon. baronet concluded by moving the previous (mistier,
Mr. GLADSTONE supported the mot on, gad c =bated
Ms objections urged by Sir G. C. Lewis against toe full
establishment of the competitive system.
The motion was alio suppt reel by Mr. W. Ewart, Mr.
Tine, and Lord Ebrington•' it ;was oppoesd by Mr. Rich,
G. Phillimere, and Lord It. Cecil.
Mr. LA.BOUCHERE bad satisfied himself that the
best method of securing efficiency in the public
de portinews over which he bed matted, was to select
himself • limited number of teedidates, tek.og
every possible means to satisfy himself that such
candidates were young men of edueation, and above
all of gentlemanly tone and feeling. The eaniidatee so
elected are submitted to the test of an cumulation, upon the
result of whice, the disiyisal r f the put'cular veciircy • Welt
might be ender consi :teatime depended. It was quite
true that the terms of the ruction of the noble It rd were
very moderate, sni it was very probable that, amidst the
rated turns of the wheel of fortune, and the rapid sue-
testi in of public men, which it was the lot of the
pre.ent day to am some statesmen might open
be found who were wiiling and able to follow out the t len
suggested by the motile lord. But the re•olution, if come to
by the house, would have been this—that an extension of
the present system ought, in the oeininn of the hems., to he
undertaken. He thought that it was ebjecitie, able that
the house should bind itself to any etch atetemoi t; amulet
not play fast and Ixse with the ;eject, and until the exist-
ing system was tested by time, the matter was barely ripe
for discussion. He conteserd alto to a tear that, should the
system of oren examination become the weed rule, it
would be found to create • separation between the heeds of
departments and those nailer them, which would be any-
thief; but bin' finial to he public service. For thee reasons
he trusted that the house would reject the propeeit:oas of
the noble lord.
The bouts 'hey divided.
For the motion
For the previous question
AUDIT OF PUBLIO ACCOUNTS.
Sir F. BARING moved ler settee: ClremitTe? " t i inquire
int, the receipt, issue, and audit of public olio in the
Exchequer. the Pay office, and the Audit Department."
A lucid iy.tsm of hi-oh-keeping, and petted aecountability,
ought, he urged, to be organised throughout every depart-
meat is which the public money was 'speeded. Those
requir-meats were, he said, very imperfectly fulfilled by
the present machinery.
The motion wis seconded by Mr. W. Williams, tine sur-
Ported by Mr. Glsdetone, and after some di,cassion was
assented to by Lord Palmereon.
ASSESSMENT OF MINES.
Mr. KENDALL chained le..va tt bring in a bill to
emend the lisr with reference to the ss•cfsident of mines
(. their than c cal mine.) to tie relief of the 11,01%
FIREWORKS IN DUBLIN AND EDINBURGH.
Mr. GROGAN moved teat an humble &deli'. be pre-
sented to her Mejes y, praying that, as an exhibition el fire-
works his been ordered for the amusement and gratificceiou
of the inhabitents of OM metropolis, ohs will be greciuusly
pleated to dr •ct that aim lie exhibitions of Siege riot he
made for the amusement and gratification of the inhabitants
of Dublin and Ediebureh.
Mr. A. BLACK cordially supported the motion.
Mr. HORSMAN said he lied c imenucic ted with the
Lord Lieutenant, and orders had been given for a display of
fireworks, in D.l Win.
Lord PALMERSTON said that he should not et trim tho
motion. It was quit, right that the great cities c f the
kingdom shoal share in the rejoicings on this occasion.
Mr. VANCE suggested th t teen should be ten ex-
hibit one in Dublin. (Laughter, and " oh.")
Cutout DUNNE regretted t` at the money was about to
be thrown away in such a ridiculous exhibition.
The motion was then as t d to.
JURIES (IRELAND) BILL.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND seed he
proposed to reef this bill to a select committee, and
moved its second reading.
Mr. 11.MAHON moved that it be read 'stated time this
day six motile,.
Colonel DUNNE protested against Irish measures being
brought on at that time (quarter to one) in the ra, roiag.
This subject was a mast imp. etent one, 'tut it wee utterly
impossible to go into it at that hour. He moved the ad-
journment of the debate.
Lord NAAS supposttd the motion for adjewnieg the
debate

Mr. BORMAN acceded to the motion fur sr!j turning
me debate.
The motion wit agreed to acrBANKor l'nrly.
JOIN SI OCK S BILL.
On the motion that the Speaks do leave she chair,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
object of the bill was to repeal a clause in toe J•ont-Stock
Bank Act, by which a {tertian o' the dirt ctr r. of j net rock
banks were obliged to go out of office annually. Ibis t r•-
vision was inttodueed by the late Sir R Prel, and applied
solely to new joint-stock tanks, the act bevies a pr,
effect only. The great evil which the act had in sieve to
guard against was the mismanagement of any partirumr
body of dirt ctors,—no dt utt a molt impori ant i-tjt.t.
He thought the house should hesitate heft re t atiog awey a
restriction which bad been introduced on lull ennsideration.
Mr. HENLEY moved ihst the debate he adjourned.
But J. SHELLEY complained that the Mane. I-or of the
Exchequer had not made his statemint on the second read-
ing of the bill ; he defended the prisciple of it, which was
simply to enab'e the shareholecrs to re elect a rotting di-
minor if they tit-nista fit.
The debate was then adjourned.
DRAFTS ON BANKERS BILL.
This bill wee reed a ttiird time Am iese I.
ANKRUPTCY (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill was read a third time, sews amendments w. re
made, end the rid cawed.
COMMISSION OF SUPPLY (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This bill pissed through committee.
The house adjourned at 25 minutes past one.

PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE'S (Tins DAY.)—The
Adulteration of Food, the Civil Service Superannation, and
the Beeleautic I Commission Committee., met this aq r-
, noon, end proceeded with the eximinntion of witnesses.
The labours of the former committee will shortly bet r.tught
to a thee.
ADDITIONAL CAMPS.—Itt consequence of the very
tent number of troops which are enacted to arrive in &g-
-land duriag the month of May, and the barrack accommo-
dation being eatremely limited, it is intended to establish
c'mps on Bentham Common, Penenden Heath (near
Maidatene), Barbara Downs (near Canterbaro), and 'ruttier
seer Plymouth, at which the ♦arioue regiments will be
located tonsil they are reduced to the pa are en .blishme nt
of 1,000 rank end file e►ch. The amp at Peamden Heath
will be eacluively for cavalry. It is not intended to erect
huts, the wipe hang only waverer', end tht men will be
sada Imam.