The Express.
London, England, 1858-02-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 20, 1858.

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tltrrl wohlivaraY, -
Whet sw laws were with regard to rellepes,ri lbw
has dietheetly stated that we wadi est ear thins lees.
(Chem) They might have dated that rimy Wpm whit
mew here owed the essee ellegielmeg and were en liessew
hadag while he tailed Wm, es •WO salliestref eh*
Qwen, Welly antemohle ft ear hig end mink
ariewerable hr ell his sib. (Chews.)h Titer might
here email thet we lellered that ow law VA
enificiest, and that the Frew* of ell nations in the wild,
iislibt have blown that they were at. (Cheers.) They
might have known that oar laws allowed no attacks to be
made Whet area fordo orchids' or epos their nacre.
(Hew, hear.) The government might have pointed to a
memerabh occasion when a minister. to whom he (Mr. Wal-
pole) believed that justice had ad yet been done—when an
Lgbeh mishter, is a firm, a temperate, and a dignified
maser, is intend dmilw demands that were made upon us.
The despatch of Lord Hawked:cry was a precedent which
*hiders might welly have followed. On that occasion the
Attorney-General did and did coo eict certain par-
; sad them the int of oar law and the justice of
his despatch wee vindicated. It wee positively incredible
that, with WM exemplory precedent staring them in the
hoe, ministers shod& by some unaccountable, some lams-
curable misapprehension of what was beet for the count/7,
hive 1411MIedsilent so long; but It woe still move incredible
that. when thew points were pressed upon them at the wry
commencement of the sesition, they should net wen arm
hate repaired the oraimicio, and set themselves right with
the house and the country. He was the mare in wined in
pressing this matter on the gmerament, Weenie,
when the debate went on bakes, ins thing
wee wanting to make the mos of dm titsdatry
complete in answer to the charges brought whet them—
that was, that no esprewion of regret had appeared on the
ppaarrtt of the French government for the insertion in the Wield
ifoniortir of thaw addresses from the colonel. which gam
the peo of England en much offence. In the very coons
of that debits • despatch was assounewl eontalnint an apology
and expeeesion of regret by the Emperor. (Hear, War)
And he had no hesitation 41 telling the government that
that line and • half did more for them In securing the intro-
duc•i^m of the bill than all the arguments which had been
urged in Pa favour. (Hear, hear.) What, then, were they
to do? They did not wish to oppose the bill—he was me
that he spoke for the peat majority of members 0111 his
side— (bear, bear);--they believed it to be a measure of
s
end justice; but Gary did not wish to go on with it =N
saw that the homier of the country had hew
rated. (Chews.) He said net this in what way
the government were new to de that. Notice ha bees glees
three se taw days age of this smanheent ; the goverment
were prepared to dimwit it. They might have met it ley a
despatch in the interim ; er they might have test it by show-
ilag same mason why as each despatch was gest They hod
eddy seta it by stating that the whation of the people if
Prawn wen pea, that it might law been dangerous to
pat upon reeled an answer is Oat deepstris—withont mod-
dewing that the &ghettos in the Millets of the people of Eng-
land wog equally great. (Chews.) A week ego he would have
appealed to ministers w the British government. As no
vmdiretion had been received from than, he thought that
the people of England would require from the Howe of
Commons that they should not take one Wight further step
In passing this measure, until there wee put upon es sedum-
* -record se that which contained the Mel upon England a
complete vindication and joetiAration of our honour. (Cheers.)
Whet that was done the house might consider whether the
bill Weak' be peocesded with; bet until that was done be
loped they should not her that which the noble lord bad
herded to them in mediae it, he hoped they should not
hew, what indeed would then be the hict, the imputation of
being humiliared end disgraced. (Hear, hod)
Sir 0. OREY said the right hon. milkman bad &n-
-eatened to the house the explicit and unambiguous declara-
tion of his approval of the Qnoriple of this bill, and of the
provision. which it contained. Hs• aware of all the circum-
stances which had laid to its introdnetket—conrersant with

the pTinciplee of the criminal law of this country—himself a
member of that Statute Law Commission whore authority
hod hero invoked against the bill—bad declared his unquali-
fied %imbed.° of It, and his determination to support It
Irrespective of other considerations to which he bad jud ad-
verted. Looking at the bill simply with reference to
Its object and its prod/dons, the government end the
right bon. gentlemen were entirely agreed, end he, equally
with the government, thought this mean amendment of oar
law which wee entitled to the approved end support of the
house. The mover of the amendment me of a totally differ-
ent opinion. He had declared hie Intention, when his amend-
ment was disposed of, to support the subsequent notice—
which the forms of the house would not allow to be moved—
for iodponing the second reading of the hill for six months.
bio doubt every member of the house wee =lions. with Mr.
Walpole, that the honour, dignity, and Interests the -outs.
try should not be compromised in any way, but should be
maintained by the government and parliament of this
country. He was astonished that after the debate on the
istredneim of the bill, the slightest dente could now be
sistertersd se to the intemultme ft ipmenmant. Kr.
Walpole bed piard a oanalnistion rpm the Myr* el
Count Rmiewsb which It no seradly tit= I.
He (Si Oster) admiral, end St
that time win gram in that aeribli whisk showed a
dishy en the pet at the Fronk govenner flat what we
mar tbs mend right of asylums aria by tits to
e et al anon so long as they anmftmod tbs
iallresesitry, ameld be in a ands degree mitred to
mad is them mbar (hurt Waftski drigents as spa
rimafts st the derries et
seas
end pnallems
the rem The most seri& seasnmso id Isms OM that
the goverammet did not intend to peso= M parlhani, nor
eantemplate in the slighted der* Go hargemeed of that
sacred right of asylum. So e 1 me that trimmutood,
that Mr. Disraeli in the previous Iran meld err and over
again that the government had Islly "stela is it the vary
thing wren the Preach gwetwommet areeft—stainoly,
hide refired to mit he_ sta hams pediment
which would enable them to add =7 other
manner than any other paw *odd be dui with, aft a
hit trial acoordin to law, set searslien as sense dregs at
violating the law at tW . 'flat bed boa distinctly
natierstood b the Mt 7hasl l as had been
writtmlsrrlstinhneatOlenWt usdi,notashadow
of dealt could semi anti. mind of any no in this amain
who Ind hard
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in Shemin ha ISlS—ft iron to whet he emir rho
talso assofts art nen Ingilibmse SAM idah—lo
hese ofrilmisd them bee Orr ampormes—an to her
metand mien Prance rushes thinair and hots es as
Mamie of whet 11r. Oars ilia the spi-
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would have draws dews limo ben that
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la Oa math and aimed It la • taw
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by Impure so p t corryde. toa the ism& aidari bat
to the Fenn SW ups
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was—aamely, to pawn brisiii am right of rpm,
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that it no altortin ft been ft aft go of aaskftelpg
tram ft drips eed pins d lerle a that kith
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motive with Soso whom motel;
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those addresses in the Meaner', previous to the explanation
given, and the expression of regret en freshly made, had
been justly offseinve to the people of this country. (Hear,
leer.) Spcs:Ethe answer to the despatch hat been 'Mot
en that would it have been all that the right boa.
paean t Would not the government have been
sa andly sad publicly, in • document which would
her amid be rouse the feelings of this country, and to ex-
am heap ef hostility in France, if reed there, to make a
samtleint ? Was it not • better and more prudent
OMNI ON cod they all hod in view to act as they had
=
Did
Oct the result show that they had
what they wished for P The= had been
en laprosOon of regret fairly and frankly ten-
awe& (Hear, hear.) He was by no means prepared to
tray that It might be right, after parliament had sanctioned
the second reading of this bill, to place on record the motives
which had influenced the government in abstaining from in-
fringing in any degree on the right of asylum, or
parliament for any power applying to refugees whichanl
not equally apply to all the other inhabitants of this country.
Such • course might be taken without any risk of unpleasant
consequences after parliament had raMed the course taken
by government by consenting to the weed reeding of this
bill. He thought that those who relied se much on the pre-
' ceded of Lord Ilawkeebery, and Gael the government,
I.:l=Sid you not dose he did in ENV had not redly in-
themoelvee of the bob of the use. In 1802 a
most insulting despelek sus deneribed by Lord
Rawkenbitry hinged' se nee d • malliatory character,
was addmend by the lama esielder this country to
eselein 00030,
lardivrears r SkselLAihat awn& he named
be mat out of
the emery, and =dream with regard.* rata
ether persons. The two gamma WO ass ea the we
ef a rupture, though them was not WWI wer. Loa
Hawkeebury answered most properly that the governess.
of thL country would not, either at the dictation of Frames,
or env other foreign country, submit to parliament • pro-
meal inconsistent with the laws and constitution of this
errantry. He also said that whatever could be done, coo-
'intent with them laws and principles, for the protection of
foreign princes, should be done ; and he showed his
INGO to do it, by consenting to send to Canada some willing-
err
very refugees whose repulsion was demanded by the French
government. And that was the dignified course which they
were asked to follow. (Hear, hear.) Ne such
mend was now made. He did not criticise every ex-
' in Count Walewski's dispatch ; allowance must
be nude for the circumstances under OA= it was written.
What would our feelings te if we knew that there were
persons In Paris constantly avowing hostility to the Sove-
reign and government of this country, conspiring to take
away the hie of the Queen, and endeavouring to carry that
into effect ? (Hear, bear.) That was no reason why we
should do anything at the wish of a foreign government
which justice did not compel us to do, and this the govern-
ment had refuted. They proposed an amendment of the
law, which they thought desirable in itself, and which, if
san:lioned would enable them to give • complete answer to
Count lit'alewski's despatch, by saying that our law did not,
either by positive enactment or by any defect, countenance
the preaching or practising of crimes of this description—
that no exception would be made, but that all would be sub-
jeot to the same law and the LIMO trial, and that no man would
be punished on mere grounds of euspicion, or until he had
bans publicly tried and convicted. Foreigners and Englishmen
were not now on the same Rioting ; a proem' at this moment
ping on illustrated the difference. If • subject of her Ma-
jesty made himself an aooewry before the fact to any mur-
der committed abroad, he was liable, as a British subject, to
be dealt with for a capital offence, and punished accordingly;
but there was no such provision of the law applicable to a
lord= refugee. One had been apprehended here; but the
only charge to which he wan liable was that of misdemeanor,
A warrant was now out against a subject of her Majesty, who
woo charged with being an acomeary before the fact to the re-
cent murder committed in France. Should the house assent
to tho second reading of this bill. theymight sesame that par-
liament, reprementing, as he believed it did, the feelings and
wishes of the people, woe in entire accordance with the
government on this matter; and they could state, in answer
to the despatch of the French minister, that our law woe free
from the charge suggested against it, that the government bad
demean that was cooldlitilll with the principles of our constitu-
tion, and that becoad that they could not go. That was also
consistent with the dignity of the country ; but to have
written a despatch, which might have involved criminatian
end recrimination, would not have been se. When the proper
time mate, It would be right for the government to take that
comae--b place on reined a distinct statement of the motives
by which they bad berm inhumes& He hoped that the
bones would not recede hem Ms position it had taken and
mead not adopt an asaindlerat which was skilfully ?rimed
0i.:247 the =rpm of mai( voess againstthe second
of the bill, end MIMI, the tioneurrenoe of many
who were not hostile be the bill. That was sot • cane
which the house was ammilanied to adopt with meted be as
second reading of a bill; he very math doubted wbsiber
was • strictly par lisammliew seems, beam an rey dim
day when the seat raft was prear4 mar
other resolution might be mowed, and the am
of the house WOO saw be directly taken on the
bill itself. He trailed ref Oa would be no
bil-
dm with regard to the ale lay were oast to. Tbs
would be a useful bill; it was ems thei might be sass}
Mended irrespective of the obeeimelemem that had ahem
place. It would place as in a plea= nhisb we shade
be =amenable by foreign cownlan, rid ail adds an
government to give a oomph* sad sadifeettory mew te
2rloresentations as those contained in Count Waiseedirs
. . (Hear, hear.)
. M'MAHON Hest, after the decimation of as
highest authorities that the prat law wee inaciat the
government aught to knee sa heritted to the mead
sent,
the
land the grata away areasey mma -
wedo
le as • maimmaser. lithe, led mad that
the
Lut:i.vrebardlieira, the boa would really have sense ad
to its amedea Wire was no Wass in this la
nowt tams at • essegkeey be lender' bat la 175;
mat were bland at IM bid Bailey is, eiergirier to po-
cant a conviction ke a oppitel allmor, and dry are sere
Mooed to seven mare baseistemeent, and reared to Oct
seastrity for tier ies& behseisse .dr•thres afterwards,
not was an ofigustio pooidisoot ; asd dr law was the
mar sow. Be dasamil aa lawyer ta the boa to say
arta a same, of Won er ten rea ageleermat
a °mayday be mar would be an rasa ma
tines. Be -did SA la this on his own e., ',Sy,
Mr. Greassone d the an ate Law Ccandesioners, in Me
einem d " Memel ea Orkin" vol. ; pegs 704, said :
" In Saar tar pima mencted of • tursperacy a the
suit of the lag to room emether of • capital aim
were Nate le rave whit wee the alma Mara
—thist te lose theramemisam—whroby tag Ira
credited ea ambled se arees or wareme—te heat der
goods imil dada of alb dr May be have these lade
wasted, thdr boom
prises. fbar Mee real up, and their
bodes ceeentitted to prises. Bet the jeaperat wee not in-
Meted op= those who were eandalledy margemles of
• him aggravated kind at the slid if the piney. AM di
smear past It app m le ham bra sea bear eadim that
the Ahrens Miami by hag lbw beams eirside,net
hang bens pramensel for sounez;dl; the pada-
Ma ler onsphades la general se la the nee el ether
.ideate sera, by Sae and sad adios
fee geed behaviour at the the mark"
Why sheaf net this foot to paid sat le the !math
goverment ? Or Mena Cabs tad wry ear salsetty
stated the same than ea be ads "Meanie Jadpesat '
which well be mireasetre ern the paiameaprovided
by this M. The obleet if the bilk lanai, ad sat be
to mecum peeler anishment. Was it to mom ma may
tannotion t Tfs add a be dome by the crime
from • arderesarer to a Nosy. The right d le
ask lialsolod • lornmesre labia •
meh elialhas forty Of the loran bait td
)`sums
timed add slava apreible so get • ta
ewe. Therese. the bill did net Maness the probability of
ear dstien After maring to the arras d the Irish
sete, the be.. sa horned gentleman observed that saes the
lest s' —da no pert of the empire had he.. more bee Irma
rto wradar. Formerly the state at Ireland was
saseene se Mat of Rome wee dersibri to t• by Tad-
Msiatim ..the vent care we snared a by a inr,
Sr by many, and pirated by eV'
The Ina ad nee p red in a time of rebellion, and Oar
hoe the morale of bead could not be quoted in 'mom
elf dm entridnetion of this bill. The bill did not ght
metre par lament ; it did not give greater security dear
viction. Whet, as, was Ice Ala ? The only namable
object white be mid drawee in the bfll wee, that It would
noshthe gamma • gear of espionage taint they would
ave if the 01111011 ranained • wirdememour. (Rmr.)
By making the Oar • hionyor sad warrant would be
required to at. i arelling and each fee sown end do-
✓bemers. Ary marbenete=migiddsit tor bill Pak
aully broacht mailer as of ad of Cleo. IV,
e. a, me. 4, ad adored • rogue and vagabond. It a-
greed le am tar Mama and respectable reams
would Sri talr Mss se woad ben air this
dB that it weal be gas as Weil be repeal the Alin An
et ease. (Her, hear.) If this bill pad it would be a
lbsemd hoes more mat, ani strelgbarad to soy le the
it is mot courant a us le give geolestke
my Yager," lan allow them rum hew wrierr dderlea
thm tbey were ode whoa dayesdiheanis ate vanes of
itaelgo prisms. (Hem) The bill as se widely draws that
it could not be a wise sad mar name a dr bone to
=Under the 4th sestina el rWM wes=g efor
me to Caw. Al, dimness den war, to
on of the *Me whin Wigs • inn wee an wader, hail-
ing that OW (fhb slaw dill gswltin wligh ea obnoxi-
ous, might was le ids demi le psi his le au& That
sense might fed WO ON barb; we right take the ma
air this bill end tastme ha Sr life. (Hear.) The
sodsting_law had be hand salicien for as may caotsitse
as the Emperor of the French IN yews upon the throne.
(Hear, hear.) You should not calamine oar own law,
or sand to the hada= that you the Amiga el
emy meemilL (Her.) Tea sheen lave end On the in,
vie adagneto to pada all tieser; ell yen bed as notion
of sobering to ray Wend= meg it, mil that you would
submit to anything ea era ream
peeps than a bill of this
=Shoat am cob me berme end at any in-
born suck manar. Cdvest beenr
the tandem-
an of the yaw tette% aawinEts raid take no
ether mem le wen tee the
ilta *la (IlaW, ham) /C.P.idal
maw tine Ve=r2.ldch might met upon these wtus
Mhe bined4 eimodolleasiy bowel le oppose the hill. lie
till beemeese OM l was rerottly seaman for bits te
▪ bezyki so man--rel ern to the noh4
lerd at Isla ef the goverment—in the berme
and dellesfation will which the bloody machine-
Sous lately in Paris inspired him.
Need he aid that= the language need in that base,

and out of it, towards the head of a nation with whom they
mince terms of amicable relatiouship, was much to be de-
precated P (Hear.) He also thought that the language used
on the other axle of the Channel had been made too much of.
Oar character as • nation stood too high to be damaged
by such language, in addition to which it should be remem-
bered that the limperor of the Frenth toads frank reparation
for what had appeared in the Monitirur. Having mid this
much be would mate the reasons why he should oppose the
second reading of the bilL Whenever repinentations had
been made to them to put the existing law into operation,
did they refuse to do so, or had that law been found inope-
rative or inadequate P There were three distinctly
masked CUM of charges of offences against foreign
potentates. The first was brought forward in 1799,
against Lord G. Gordon, who wastried for a libel on Marie
Antoinette. The indictment stated that the libel in question
was published to the great danger of exciting dimension be-
tween the subjects of our Sovereign Lord the King and the
subjects of his Imperial Majesty. He was esavicted en that
charge, and sentenced to floe sad t for three
years. The next case was also ems etlfMls which was pub-
lished upon Paid, the Emperor of Rem* end in that ems,
iliswits, the *ganders. three in romber, was baud guilty,
sad sontenoed to five years' imprienmeat. The next came
was that of Peltier, which, as it had been ohs* aderred to
by the right hon. gentleman (Mr. IV4iiis), he ash not
quote. But in that case also the o& heil been found
guilty, although he was not brought up for judgment, wee
having in the meantime broken out between this rmenter
and Prance. The language of Lord Ellenberough, who
tried the case of Peltier, was language which no judge used
hesitate to adopt on a similar occasion. His right hon hind
the Home Secretary delivered a speech eight mere age
which was in the highest degree worthy of his character as
a man and an English statesman, on an occasion similar is
the present. After reprehending the abuse of hospitality
which certain misguided persons perpetrated here, his right
hon, friend went on to say .—" We have I believe ample
powers, irrespective altogether of the Foreign Enlistment
Aciti to suppress all such attempts as may be made by
f en to frame oonspirecies, and we shall not hesitate to
take proceedings to meet any violation of the law. I
believe the powers we voters are amply aufficimit to punish
by penalties any violation of the law by foreigners ether we
have been satisfied that these foreigners have really com-
mitted themselves in any way for which legal proceedings
can be taken against them." But he believed the bill would
not produoe the desired effect in France and other parts of
the continent, or even in this country. What the govern-
ment of France wanted was, not that we should punish per-
sons more severely when they were convicted, but that we
should export suspected persons. (Hear, hear.) He feared
the French government might say, " Yon have passed this
museum but you have deceived us, for here is a fresh con-
spumy which you said your law would be sufficient to meet,
but it is sot snfilokat." (Hear, hear.) What might
be said in other parts of the continent P He knew
it wee emprone for a person in his position to say anything
that might be considered offensive with regard to France or
any other country, but it was impossible to shut one's eyes
entirely to the upon of things in Primes and other conti-
nental countries. It could not be dread that the people of
those malaria, were exposed to coercive lad appessive rose-
suree—(heer, hear)—that liberty at comaimmo WY inter-
dicted, and the freedom of the press a adore—(hest,
Mar)—
and if they changed their law at the request et
continental nations would be apt to say, "Here is Imidand
who, we know, from her past history cannot leek an those
proceedings with favour, consenting to chimps here
which one of her own minium only 1111111 ).011. ews
yea amply leftism to prevent cho"—ire would
sot ley at the dictation but "at the souramet
with whose system they cannot leee Lest sym-
pathy." (Hear, hem) He was the seat in this
p
a:natty also would be perniskres. He ediellted Mat in
bringing forward a sesame hr thug* of the waft the
government was not always to be piled hiyk_pulfagien
but they akesid pay sums dehrenos to ft. He this
change in the law wield he viewed with peat sion.
Much bad low said de* replying to the of Count
Weleweide sad ea miilkygh& hal beta draws between the
M pee-
Num emi the hit Una Hawiewbeey in 181 th
But thesphhe semiad OM theemakel ed the govaausat
either divide/ at loath he was bend la More to aide
that the arlegy of the pawl wee with dist at
did sr bell 'prior lei bra shown by lie light horn
11, what the brae wet of he Christens smug a suala•
des bail bra weed its barer sad itheiethee at
enthedwee, =dirt if the existing laws were not shat to
err thew, we sheaki take the state of the law hats nemider-
tion—if ea toast in that spirit had been rearesit le the
deepatek of Coma Welewski, be believed het
dew
as
jnia
wise wee at the bead of Prance, mad who dew
wall as any one et titumehmt Weald have bum with
end eirwoolation. '(Hom)) Thom* eat dhow wassl,
he barred, satisfied with the arrare. Headght be wild=
in the vats he was going to glue--he herd ft moll be eth
suomestal—bat he gave it in all sincerity and erginew of
heart. (Hoar) He believed the law, as it stood, wee suf-
ficient, and be had bead no miledent reason for making he
alteration which was proposed. (Hoo, hear.)
Mr. SPOONER wee sever so mach sespieed as he was
that st by the speech of his right he. Mei (Mr. Wal-
pole) ole °Ohm he always looked up le wilt debrease.
gas hou=dimeed with him on th• pewit orailea. •
for the introduelim al dr lid, and
= was sr teem why they should ask ewe isle sear
VOW ea 010 assist reading. The arraimei of the Mid
boa goollmo (Mr. Gibson) was very thinamendr heard to
ore vats hen all ride* of the hoops, but it we ad his to
iota he in that way. Ths coverement ad sight,
in lit in •not =snoring the split et 00Wet
W Lt this Wilma swilbes red maid•be awared
la a swim smithwhit the Eddy sal thpily el he
someby. Ho bdiesoll dr bill to be pad, het,- MI Wm-
swy ; and Mist Wag ail, he could act- oeAsa he vele he 11
bums 11 au alleged that it wee pushed dr brigs
Meade& alleet.)
Lod H. VANE did not wish to give • silent vote on that
musiim. He mehmed, when he oohed le mind the drew-
how it the ase—dot atrocity al he wise wwwilled—
the marry of the fest hat that rime wee oneseeld la
Mine setway—flue IVIIAIag emir lel whit it ark *se
ta this sowntry—that ihe imisme The pureleeled 11. me-
arid boa this ormitry—ke hit be semi mho e
gam lbw the wham which aided le Paris, and
the mempention which wee hit there aping this cnuatry,
ueinet mil 111-dheeted dough he blow It is be. 1
bham.)lie ass, domed" Eel emephil id into into.
islabler el Passe, pertidpadag la hat hdig, dm=
made we of thug sometime to him —2.0
,b., were espruebas which hkit=ineddrelifie nell
think, botworer, that those e Wray
bore eat the westrartion wide the right has.
appetite to them. (Hear, hear At sem lbw
be it was IN-judged on the) part (lthe
bw WOW.
=l ssead
same aistvi to
in here replied:. th.4=t4hogr.,
the
Ple„ thenght whoaga
this might
he
immented he hew aping& this
bra When, whirr welsh& by a reirel, these sertywiulta
fage tieli it thadd be theoucteithet oldie reatryle wrath
Be had hied with sella he ibellesika el the light
ha. breast, es 11 eirdeled Ihe lehreame thr ray ham de-
marl would be iblserd site. Be hit ft Wiry le sapped the
WIL Me park,
._haposel fer the Anse we net
▪ alla= whiner it wash bear/dm relgitites;
wither et Ti was a WI of hired ressiedea which
they heseit sampled at say lire. Be had hear noob-
it.=, se, ma be druid Mt is We dry ea
stespa He hal shirk seid that it
=far be wry intim. Meer. her.) Mere wee in
bat nothing is it. Mar, bear.) Thee wee at rime why
they should set pre it ; sok she the seplasso
don OIL sad the eapteedea el egret ea the
pat de liwporor, 11 mil set be mai that they ailed
at the '.he
ef wg ether govermeat. They alight te
npol the measly el privets lib, eat air Ike eespie
massy ea Mt beta aria, sh Bee of lima harem
ought to be 11111101110 It sewed is lir lb* he swerbeest
ass with* caubleat with he Id" est If breaght heard
es a esbeleadoe nesitha, be wadi bre aepposted ft as la
word with b per as. (Her, km) Bat se it wue
Onward ta appeal= le the issued reedbi of this Witt
burl Is veto whet L
Mr. 11M1 CZ had Steed with great pleasure to SO
01110101 the right bra. senior for •e, which wee au
el 010 rest ebb awl eisswith be bed our heard, but could
set amen Ii• malowil, es, If weds a would have
ow if the soda Maw la hems the ir ,
farterele Whig et Mirth. beams lide
and Tyree (hew, berg —or _ dee_ Iles=
couetry Lim heirmil perils Ode at higmleil,
i1.:40%
peered het he ewe by within the eadbil
If the WO lees astadrld, ft ow
1:1= tart 11: link Mit wee and reweitsille=
per it, inesperho el ell wattema aithdy ea lie
ors usita. Ho wall net esarive • grader egeedelba
than be have ft reanded by dr vele et Ms laws of 0001•
aome that, oaring be he gems* of a bit, they
owe afraid tO mad it • NM pehdpiel
am bit ifebuld be asap
they sated at the dieted= of an worry. He mid
not Oink that the tight ha. lia MI dish whit the
added bid, rid la a oirelp mimeo The wee=
wee Whew the WI ties e psi ass rie ass; chew net
=arilditi lia taiduthr le, thsue rho seeedes gassliaa
a Wreath oweepeahaes Waren dim is
▪ sal loon seed to waded hither. The dip kr
geolissia led pasted • With bed sethetily this ea hat-
gni aging sat he are ma dal kisis,
The wesalwai sere rimy mask maw the essolo.
=t It handed hi aids bath kerb sal three. it
Ise handed
boa more etergirbrwerd if the Ilght ben.
reallwesa had been content with data Ifewsella sr wm•
word as to the derposh of Ommit Waloyekil—bin sight
hen hind the amber far Canada. bad I•1I•1 •
a h besseedestica
aed to • • tlaa ropeeled elbeeffelte," sad
het ths_paidief easeenged lealmd-
a• Beath* bed reed Mr begat* sad did
wit Obit ft yeah' bur such a towaredbia. It shred
•I Obi Pasch ri. rad Mir sthaepts, bet art me re-
ledba all he rt EssismiL
imi.Mr. W I, wslehed het lashed referred tessethee
tousle the tied etas assist* Is which the Leh'
ilia-Tir 'fhb 1111100,111 W sauna/ of hog thaserwiss.
ezzirrnici believed diet • graideal of unereserry
bel bra labolased late the Mete by edam W
thee ma* Mir a t gerilsw.the Add =PR
India whim i lb* friths et thews wires is
lide 'may; aid the ebb of sir chid law ; rOw/
we set sides et a ediebstery modistes while OA wes
fr.no set le ashy 01010101, .. . he=-
or ig" wad withase • sir Ith,
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die
aims. He traded the has mould adept the bill, he

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not declare to Europe that they were drag of deft! right I
lest it should be thought they bad acted es the suggestion of :
another power.
Sr Et. PEEL had given a silent vote on the introdactioa I
of the bill. He Iss,l since read its provisions, and was
linoleum to gim an explanation of his feelings on & subject of
such very great interest. He had listened with great atten-
tion to the speech of the right hon. geotleman the late mew-
bee for Manchester—(laughter)—the member for Ashton,
end considered his proposal very moderate. On the other
band, the speech of the noble lord ten4ed to lead
them astray from the real question at issue.
It was strange that the noble lord, a liberal
minister, should have proposed • bill which was
opposed by all the liberal members of the house—(hear,
beer and "no")—by all the most distinguished liberal
without en exception ; while, on the other aide,
bin opponents gave him • support that did not
Weft fty far. The noble lord the member for the City
ef
Limbs lad made a manly and patriotic speech ; he bad
hit, as lee always felt, and had spoken, in • %inner which
his m spite of all their anirnosi, could not
gainsay. The honourable member fur Sheffield had been
• fit interpreter of the public ideas on the subject
—(hear, hear)—and had not gone an iota beyond what the
gravity at the occasion required. The bill before the house
involved two considerations—the change to be introduced,
and the causes for which that change was required. He did
not pretend to wart that the treatment of alien ought not
to be subject to role, but they should not place indefinite
restrictive' on them at the suggestion of any foreign police
so long as they obeyed the law and did not interfere with
this government. If the noble lord had come down and
said that a revision of the form of sentence was neoesauy,
or that then was anything in the law which favoured
the crime or criminals, he would have said for God's
sake alter it. The Home Secretary had told them that the
Lord Chief Justice had sopreeeed an opinion which be bed
no business to do. Ho had told them that the law was euffi-
cant, and did not require alteration. They had the high
legal authority of Lord Brougham end Lord Campbell that
the law was adequate for all purposes. The Solicitor-Gene-
ral had spoken bat had not thrown much light into the
die-
cuesion ; they hod not yet heard the Attorney-General. He
(Sir E. Peel) had beam most anxious to hear the Attor-
ney-General. (" Hear," end laughter.) If with his
elevenses el style he had come down and told them this bill
was necessary be might have been prepared to support
They were new told that the government bad othrsd a re-
word of 2001. kr Mr. Allsopp, and that M. Bernard had
bola arrested on • warrant from the treasury—(Sir G.
CialT. Prom a police magistrate.") That at all events
wouldi show that the law was not inadequate for its
CrAt the police-office Mr. Bodkin appeared, and add
tta ended by order of the Treasury to conduct the cape
spinet the who had been arrestogiteldirection of the
Sierestary State, Lid he concluded him thus Now,
sir, It has bean decided that persons ty of libel against a
foreign sovereign can be indicted in this country, and it
would be strange (says Lawyer Bodkin), if under the lame
law it was not an offence to conspire to commit murder on
the person of as individual holding that position.' The
hon. aftefty told them the law was inadequate, yet Lawyer
Bodkin told the it was adequate ; and a proof was, it bad
taken up M. Bernard, and offered a r ward of 2001. for Mr.
Allsop. He could not hold the doctrine laid down
by the noble lord. Ever since 1832 the policy
of our legislature had been by abating the severity of the
criminal law to increase its efficiency yst in 1868 the noble
lord came forward with • proposal toincrease the penalty of
this crime; that was • reversal of our system of legislation
for the last 36 years. The noble lord, the member for the
City of London, said the bill was brought in under in KM,
WM& 11/1111 degrading to the house and comity._ (Hey,
hem) He jibed the noble lord in that opinion. Let It be
wail understood that the bill was only • sham and • pretext.
The wide left (Lord Paimeretcm) had referred to the law
and the seta of Ireland. It would have beat better taste if he
had !shifted from any allusion to the tether state of that
now prawns country. But his bill was not merely a sham.
Ths reel truth was that the bill was submitted to the homiest
the dictating's:4lam He could conceive nothing more insult. ,
tug to the nudes—mere degrading to their sense of criminal
justice-41m lo be told that because for the sixth or eighth
time sat attempt spinet the life of Look Napoleon had bees
made, they were responsible for it. In common with the
house and country he abhorred and detested the
not onl the atrocity of the set, but the cowardice
it. It was matter of delicacy and difficulty to dad
with those attempts on the life of Louis Napoleon. In the
=of Count Waleweki he seethed Loden Rolft, Men-
Campanelli of being accomplices in this attempt ;
It was shown they were readmit in this coetry ; but no
evidence had been produced satinet the= Mew, hoar.)
They were indeed, pretenders to the republican government;
but were theiltherefore responsible for this ateempt at asses-
Menke ? N. Persigny had residoi In this wintry for
fifteen year, and Louis Napoleon, who In his own eyes at
' all events was • pretender to the throne of
France; daring that period ten attempts were made on
the life of Louis Philippe, but it was never suggested
that Louis Napoleon or Persigny were accomplices
in them. It was difficult to deal with this at the
requisitionof • govermneat which changed so . The
very man who wars now in power had very different feelings
• short time ago. Count P my warm
legitimist, and • friend of =ea de Bow:. aM. Basotho
had declared that in 1848 hebad been • republican de is milk,
yet they now oome forward and say Inmost not do that which,
so long es they resided here, they found no fault with.
The right hogentlemen, the Beerstary of State for the
Home Department, had said that If any attempt had been
made in ranee to preach sedition 'getout this country simi-
lar to that which had been promulgated spinet Louis Napo-
leon, we should have been the first to complain of it, and the
government of France the first to repeals it. Now, what
was the real truth of the case ? Why, in 1848 the doctrine
openly poached was, that all monarchies was wrong, pent
did any one In England say anything against that ? Yet
Count Walewskl now talked atmat the licence of the mem In
England. He, of all men, should ;be the last to dam
to inainuatathing against the liberty of the
pram in Let him just glance at this
document at Waitaki ; it was to be that no
answer bed been mat le it by the goverment, never
was then a dosser mon shallow in its premises or conclu-
sions. In that damn= Coe= Waleweki head halt with
the Mt= PoottEloir io Mega* and bap that sows alter-
atioasfEllo mem in it ; Dino maws bed been sent to
that The right hon. gentiensathileastary ignite
for the t told them new that if they reed
billtkt essendpeSnal anen answer would be not ; but every
swabs mist ass that following inch a came would be most
erligutlek to my the beet of it. (Chews.) It was a
GOMM gibs Infterthy of that decides which had marked
the emend el the sate Led at the hied cd the government.
' Let him lehe the dr ptch as it shed, end in considering
amn let has boor this insiosing hot in mind, that
thist Coat Weinsid, who thus rat= Weed, was 26 years
aff• ve of a
mat lac welittal=re tier.) And yet tal=etinnt
who now read es anon bevies when be nun " lives in
Hegland that Pined henna he glen d the Mo-
pes* ,• it wee from Lomita het lo to a ado, Ur recollection
of which Is Mil mit, Kris,. Labs Boaz, and Campa-
nella, directed he anent= wham They hod famished with
arms." Now Al Alm meth upon the bleier,' Intended to
be drawn hem hi sisieset. Two min were takes up In
Frame ke eillemples or Wag 'append to have attempted,
to take the lila et Lade Nerds= ; awl whet Mahn say in
their Mama ? Why, am said he did net know the person
of the Nemezer ; sad the other mid he did not know when
the Paw: lived. (A her When hadhet
:=kawLedra HAIM, se Campanell any
with ink toe add he saw a
rashe mime penon was
iler ma he had mina pm= whom somebody else
make el as Lobs Ittills—(a hingh)—and yst, apon the
Nth dem= eiders he Angel= erected that it was fn
llnglesel "that the when Melte het pr lobar* pre-
pared-their mom el sedum ." bet whatever Cant Wdowdd
in ▪ my to the irgdsni was met the lime shin
thee eingibeeles owe or ismineepL The de-
rek
rese=t mo: He me rtenre thin
isi se do
oil= ha Tepid tieln,
bees el the
Prance, for her pit, hes imp d epee It
era d busenty mom to elm her delis ta sin
misheteis whiner Wei be the
pony to =SU bianpir Ober= dm
" Propos, for her pi, bee imp lashed ups it eTroinkyt
humanity," middies let Me home sommobir thenien Loeb
XYIIL westemikedfremse=hyle esenitywillhe hal hued
a lofty 4 Isoilowd, Frame nem= to mobs pees with es
atr.thaesediioadhisespelia Thetteinl
dime we nee Melody is redoes with dier the gbh ce
the eminhut el the impish. but this pee el lbe deignish
wee sir en pi with that declared- ad he &ebbe
el inienhein wee opialy peeshstl in the peed tots
senby. Was her say nessier of the hems wits would
Di men le give meth le en oniellea et the
select hi that the deigetelt we= ea le bee-
=tie te emen• I' Ought dr led* killed= to
bto imam their hips end hia plias end ea it
mine ft shier puma vie lay Sisk aping Mb Moos
em
Mega* or mom= right sod Milt the
hod t" Now, the Wog ot Ole pert of the der
pia had len sieleedroggeontel by the thrrtn and hi-
nibline When= sphii Ibis nineisy. se did sot =eh
h dZill hem limed/ hi stiedbed teen oared
hr; bibs dli set los lOW
oblor alert
eau= tiller he sumndin d =slip we weds gee-
tim, at iho pals pus shill' MOP eqpind is &be be
inforentinenen edge, threw. =peak= of the
betsahead- le It "
alley. Is ere el the dote-
meses plaids' the 40111 min et ibe roma Mtn'
mind sebnagunt le he Jim= weaned este words:—
" Let the stsieshis - he onbordiado slosh of
then dein mesh. the due theirelandoeble
=tot tie Is wide one banal
he he eon hie= • ea."
New that was a elms engemelen—ha beglo—bat
repined owe dim the gebilielise el lbw intimene ores
the idminien of the gib had et the heel of the genre-
etmentny thet le weld sot Amy ito sk a mein 110111114 this
ml nee eDies of wwantor. setae had mid se en
We elhelleit at his bet the =minim el the noble
bed tees simitellty ef hie own sake eon ef the comics
shish alba it list& But, the, the =hie lord went as le
dV that time elevations wen hearted In the lifewiter
honk blivinues. That remark of the noble loud was
radar =hippy, Wenn hey lnrtry4V
Prow at in pails per hid ben in all
Ifirmary ass bed lea slink d that wee in thirty
whim= ; enneeently It was idle to =ppm that In
ths see sigh pm" mhfali hod the Mer*ef drieleha w-
it= seelfebbit edminion though fletnakit=
No; Uwe to core mode maws

(Cheers.) They were put in for the purpose of urging the I
House of Commons to pass this hill, end he regretted most
sincerely that a noble lord with such passed antecedents as ,
thou euioyed by the first minister should have oondesoended
to submit it to the homiest the dictation of a foreign power.
(Gear, beer.) Bed en apology had been made for the colonels '
and the army; but let him remind the house that no apology wh.tavee had been made for the strong and unhandsome -
pc:miens used by Id. de Money, the President of theartn
and M. Troploug, the President of the Legislative Chamber. •
Both of those presidents forgot the dignity of their ;mei- I
Lions, and gave vent to expremioes which ill became 1
them. It was rather severe for M. de Horny to isy
that England we. the lair of savage besets—(laughter —lout
he became still worse when he said England was the labo-
ratory of ammaination. (" Hear," and a laugh.) He we.
quits ready to make every excuse for the president se tour-
der of Louis Napoleon, whom they flattered for his position;
indeed M. de Monty was only Imitating his predecessor of
1808, M. Chain_ pigny. What was the kind of flattery heaped
upon the first Napoleon by M. Champigoy, the President of
the Assembly of that day! It was that Bonaparte wee en
angel sent from heaven to bless mankind at large by hie rule
and judgment; but be must say that those expressions were
rather far fetched. (" Hear," and a laugh.) But the other
day expressions far more powerful were used towards
Louis .Napoleon, and although it mu perfectly well
known that the preen was gagged, that liberty
was dead in France, one of his courtiers nevertheless had the
courage to say to him, " Sire, you are too fond of liberty."
After that be thought we might well exclaim, with Madame
de Steel, " What crimes are committed in the name of
liberty!" (No, no—Madame Roland.) Well, was this bill
coneidered neoeseary before the commencement of the los-
sion I' No, it was only considered to be necessary after what
had paseed since the 14th of January. Ninety-nine mem-
bers had opposed the bill on its first reeding, end though they
should continue to resist its progress. it mud not be set down
that they were philo-eneasehm. (A laugh.) He had heard
that expreesion used on more than one OCCOL4OII, but
he wanted it to be thoroughly understood that
those who opposed this bill did not sympathhe with
Orsini or assassins. They opposed it from motives
that were conscientious and pure, and he for one believed that
by passing the second reading of this bill they would be doing
great injury to the beet interests of the country. (Hear,
bear.) they might have concurred In some ume ,sam of
the hftror sod detestation with which they viewed the
recent attempt on the life of the Emperor, but they could
not accept the bill at the dictation of any one, much less that
of a foreign power. (Hear, hear.) Before lee eat down he
met take leave to recall to recollection that this bill was
by a liberal government, that it was opposed by the
h"berdparty, and supported by those who had no sympathy
with the noble lord. He deeply regretted that this bill was
eubenitted to them by the noble lord the Prime Minister.
The noble lord Amid have hesitated before he condescended
to come downwith such a bill. We had at this moment three ex-
prime =Withers who took an acdve share in public life. Would
they have thought that the noble lord the member for the
City of London could have come down to the house with •
bffl of this nature ? No ; they would have felt quite cer-
tain that his spirit would maid. (Hear, hear.) He would
ask them whether the right hon. gentleman who sat below
him, sad who, to a certain extant, represented the opinions
of one ex-prime minister, would have consented to introduce
this bill had they been in power f(Haar.) Over and over
again the noble lord had taunted these three right hon. gen-
tlemen before and during the Crimean war with truckling
to a foreign power ; but he sake the house whether they
would have truckled even to the hundredth pert of this bill?
(Hear, bear.) Only one other need he refer to, aid that
was Lord Derby, whom speech in the Hones of
Lord', at the of parliament, showed what his views
were upon this question. He moat say that that was a
noble expression, worthy ofa great statesmen, and one
which ought to have found an echo through the mouth of
the Prime Minister of Ens and. (Cheers) Bat the noble
lord had now sdopted a new policy. Hitherto, the noble
lord had enjoyed the reputation of being rather a dictator
than one who would submit to dictation. Some years ago
the noble lord's Pacifico Bill set Europe by the ears, hut un-
happily, since these Florentine end Grecian struggles, the
opinions of the noble lord had undergone a material change,
end he could now afford to leave two innocent country-
men to pine away, unaided and unprotected, in the
dungeons of, Salerno. (Cheers.) th w not the
character of to noble lord In 1850 then he was a Roman

citime--(laaghter)—but his farm of those times had long
prod away. He well remembered when the noble lord
aid our union with Franc. depended upon mutual interests
and identity of institutions; but times had indeed sadly
changed shwa then • and he did hope that, at all events
during the present .rdpiorse in France, the noble lord would
not attempt in any way to introduce an identity of institu-
tions. (Maus and laughter.) Although en accidental ma-
jority of 300—(a laugh)—had sanctioned the introduction of
this h.M, he yet hoped that on farther consideration the house
would be disposed to resist Its further progress. At all events,
he viewed the bill ea one not only dangerous to the constitu-
tion, but degrading to the country, and ha should give it his
constant and pertinacious opposition. He never would con-
sent to give a vote which In the smallest degree would be
calculated to circumscribe that liberal hospitality which we
had ever accorded to the political refugees and unhappy
exiles of every clime. (Cheers.)
Mr. HENLEY could not understand how any man could
vote against the amendment, seeing that it was as true se
gospel. The Home Secretary now admitted that an answer
ought to have been sent to the despatch, but he had never
heard say one say that an answer ought not to have been
seek Well, if no one could say that, how could they ab-
stain from supporting this amendment f As to the bill, the
punishment which it provided for conspiracy to murder was
not at all too severe—but that was not now the question.
It was, whether despatches of this tuitional importance
should be replied to in writing or in a conversational
form ? And about that there could be no room for doubt. If
Lord llawkesbtvy sixty yearn ago had taken a similar 03111111
to that now adopted by the government, there might have
been some ensure for the noble lord ; but at that distance of
time the importance of making written replies to the demands
of foreign powers was recognised, and the country was now
reaping the advantage of the precedent. Let not the house
then confine its attention to the present moment, but
rather consider the benefit which the decision would
confer upon those who should come after them.
No one could read this despatch of the French minister with-
out seeing that there was a direct demand upon us to deal
with these tenons who were receiving the hospitable aid of
England. (Hear, hear.) He quite agreed se to that matter
In the construction placed upon this despatch by his right
hon. friend. (Cheers.) With regard to the bill itself, which
this resolution would postpone but for • short time, he
thought that it would operate se a protection to honest re-
fugees. He supposed that those among them who awn
honourable had the same detestation for this crime of menewl-
nation that we had ourselves. He was bound to believe that
such was the owe. He feared, indeed, that the bill would be
et no avail in searching those out who had committed Maas
bat It would perhaps deter persons from engaging in It. But
the main question was,whither the government ought te
answer the despatch ?(Ewe, hear.) It was not at all •
question between this ma sad France— hear}
hear).—
but between that bones and thtey e government. (Loud cheers.)
The qualm wag, whether the government ought to have
laid that &spat* as they bed done upon the table of the
hones Vesta preessang to return to It a deliberate and
torn* but Arm, mom? In hie opinion, emit an
answer ought to have beta sent. (Loud cheers.) Sash
being his opinion, him vote would be given to the amend-
ment. (Hear, hear.)
The LORD ADVOCATE bed male down to the home
to support the bill for anwalkag the eriminal law—(" hear,
baser, and • laugh) —Ate be caddied it embodied
an improvement upon the existing stab et things.
The matter, as he eadinttowl it, mid thee : ler
England the law mils einsplrecy to murder a ableneemsw;
in Ireland it was a egad offence. In fletelmed, the lam
to may the hest, was denbetal on the snleest. la each •
debar a seetekly appeared that see emletheml coda
was span te ; that at lead ft wee thetrable to
mate ths kw skier. Oath appeared to have been the opiates
el Its bow, In the iMoductlon of the bill on this solder
err sepperted by a way large mejority. Upon the present
erosion, ea Ihe sewed resist& en imendment had beta
moved, etamslthi width be &WM simply say that two
adage wen ekes. The het wee thl• fat the amendment
was hist to the ben—("bees, kw," wed lenghter)—sad the
stead, that the amenthent bed nellife do with the bLq.
No doubt ths emewleeme masesed of great
m 4
vote
but so little had it lode with the thet km weeekei
mi vote both Swifts mmesedneme ma he the messed
("Haw" and IswiSsr.) _ In draw TM Se bids=
had beat raised be shield not ge fide Se Jeri question.
Lanese had talked span it; bef waft amide three ques-
tions of law, les ad net think that, es a pnestion of legislative
ildeLl:cts, mendse would Wok the punishment to be
this bill to mess cf phew, to winder was too
ISVIS, ilappily the he was a an gas but Its rarity was
we se extreme as to obviate the neelsmily be a ratable
Coming to the antles them, he
Wi rlit aid of this reseddion m•
etatement of regret that
the =sat lad not anewael • oernin despatch from
the That fin truth was the subject o
the Weirs =lt was W he noticed that the opening
week of the reseintica ezpreeed the detestatkm of the hones
be the Perriftliel• of remit melee, end west on to state that
it would at all limes proceed to suety my defects in the
winked law which were proved to exist. Now upon this he
mast remark that no such statement bad km made
via the hareanden el the bin. If the proposers
fi iiiValliliill• Ilai ibl• willing to consider any
Go ailed be, how oune it that they refused
thestio Ili wily I& (Naar, hear.) But the real question
ems Ilis—roothe be to stay the prate( of this bill
daured berm Or tot not answer Ur despatch of the
206 1, Vpost rimy hepostaot, sod
.2.8 WV alig guiles had been raised ow
Nis it Via le_ Auk oarlhody on such
a twills ; Ss in the fangs which it
would loosalLeimialletoore pram% see to utter, and
on that very oomaion anpeinlows had arisen
which it would have beef batter ret to have
uttered. As hawser, this moths iod beta mods the
subject rota be dirk with. Ner, Mr* be was, se
much as all hen. members, undone 120,14..... .....F0-
maid the free soil a lids sowelry, he net band him-
self to the Wale el Wag tio le as hot het per-
m= who bed eitjwyed ger bed dim fral bin in
Oder to men et seesmothethea. MIR _Veit Irritation
petalled la Press MI the eetlist—lt seen not fail to be
eisreiss; sal is govesprat et, els coomtry, from which
isms rerghetees
itel4i=nY felt indignant that
wkta a yeadjaja atemeded to those par-
pobjy-ifiett who et it is order to concoct each
• when & Hs was set g of political echrosse,
It woole selosessiavteg louder for their object that his oh:

servatioes applied. The despatch of the French governments
rat at a moment like this, might naturally betray some Mlle
warmth of feeling. It did net, however, require the gores -
went to de !anything ; It merely suggested that something
relight perhaps be done to obviate inch disasters in future.
When that despatch was received, the government said that
uto bringing in an alien bill, and putting upon foreigners
reatriations to which the native born sub,joata of this country
runt liable, such a course wee simply out of the question.
That statement it seemed ought, in the opinion of some hen.
gentlemen, to have been put in writing. Bat then it was
felt impossible to say that there was not to some extent truth
in the representations mad.; but still if these things—three
attempts at aramiciation—could not be stayed without inter-
tering with the liberties of aliens and the freedom of our soil,
they must continue come what might, and the good and evil
be balanced together. Then, however, came the oonsiders-
tion, whether It err not better to outsides, in the &at Ore,
woetber the law was in snob a state u not to be open to just
criticism. The goverment considered that matter. and
came to the conclusion, as did the house upon the introdao-
lion of this bill, that the law, as i; stood, was not defensible.
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not be answered, and for this reason, because it would have
t
a
required the government to go into questions which it would
It would have been the
(Cries of "Oh," re laughter.)
easier thing in the world to have written a smart
bat he thought that the country could afford—that his noble
and moderation. It eras • position is which prudence and
to the house that the resolution of the tight hen. gcntlematt
could not command its
Mr. GLADSTONE:rrrt
hai the portion of the epee& of
his learned friend the Lord Advocate which eferred to the
merits of the Lill which the house had been invited to read a
second time he should advisedly pees by. He sow on the
part of the learned lord a disposition to mix two
discussions, which, as it appeared, onght to be kept
distinct—(cheers)—diecussietui item the mixing un of stitch
great mischief had already arisen. (Cheers.) For it was
hard upon this country that they were to be called upon to
discuss • topic connected with the amendment of the criminal
few, and therefore connected with the security of the pri-
vate right* of every Englishman in tee land, under menace
free a foreign government. (Loud cheers.) And among
the merits of the speech and of the motion of hie right bon.
friend (Mr. M. Gibson) wee this one, that both by hie motion
and his mach he had rendered signal aselatance in semorat-
ing the political and judicial points of the que•dicu. He
(Mr. Gladstone) must confer that ha could 'meagre with the
hon. member for Cambridge in thinking lightly of the change
proposed. It appeared to him to be one ofa very grave character,
and one upon the merits of which serious objections might
be taken. (Cheers.) Still these were subjects upon which,
whatever might be the leaning of his mind, he should like to
have toe brat of those learned in the law. If he found
from these who were competent from technical knowledge and
actual expmeence that it was desirable for the bane in this
instance to retrace its steps and to depart from ite pretties of
the greater part of a century, he should not venture to set his
understanding against the influence arising from such a
source. How was he to act when a bill was introduced, not
with a statement of the condition of the law not with re-
ference to its judicial bearing, but introduced by the
Prime Minister—himself of course not • lawyer—and re-
commended upon grounds and with reference to inneidera-
tiro which were not legal, not social, not F.nglish, but
purely political P (Loud cheering.) He claimed the power
of discussing • question of Er/lien law upon English
grounds and English considerations—(cheers)--end the
house would now see whether by means of the motion of his
right hon. friend it might not be porible to do something
towards pairing that operatios. Well, then, ho would take
the speech of his Un and learned friend (the Lewd Advocate),
se it bore upon the motion before the house. What
wen the two allegations of his honourable and learned
friend ? Why, he said in the first place that this amendment
was fatal to the bill, and he said in the second that the
amendment had nothing to do with the bill. (Loud cheering
and laughter.) Now, as re ted the first of those allega-
tions of the hon. and I lord, he would leave it to be
answered by that learned lord himself, who, in the None
speech in which he said that the amendment would be fats!
to the bill, went on to state, in language equally explicit,
that it would be in the power ot any member .4 that house to
vote both for the amendment and for the bill. (Prolonged
cheers, and laughter.) He (Kr. Gladstone) was in the
recollection of the house, and believed that be did not
exaggerate the statements of the hon. and learned lord.
Having the authority of his hen. and learned friend against
himself it was needless for him to interfere between hi
learned friend and himself, and there would be something
invidione in any such interference. (Laughter.) He then
came to the assertion of his hon. and learned friend that the
amendment bad nothing to do with the bill. That was •
very cenveniest assertion for his hon. and learned friend,
and if it had been made clear to the mind of the Lord Advo-
cate, it was not to be wondered that he had been naturelly
=lions to turn it to a good account. The amendment had
nothing to do with the bill said the Lord Advocate, and the
house had heard from one of the members for Norfolk that we
were called on to discuss the small and petty question,
whether a diplomatic 00/respondence was complete or not ;
the meaning of that being that diplomatic correspondence
meant nothing worthy of notice—wee • mere matter of red
tape, and, but what is not the fact, that whenever you spoke of
diplonsatoc correspondence, you spoke of that by which war
was nude and peace' obtained—you spoke disgrace which
the honour of =renewer' maintained and theof na-
tions brought about. (Hear, hear.) It might be, perhaps, he
said, that there was toe much of the taint o chicanery in
diplomacy; but nevertheless it represented a field in
which the highest science was displayed, for it
meant that where in former times questions between
nations were settled only by the arbitration of the sword, the
rare of men now stepped in to settle and secure the rights
clarions. (Hear, bear.) Therefore the question whether or
not a diplomatic correspondence wee complete might often
be—as indeed it wee in this very case—the turning point of
• queer= whether there we, each a thing sa national
honour, and whether or not It was the heelers of the Bore
of Commons to maintain that national honour. (Hear, hear.)
His hen. and learned friend had said—and he was in
that respect somewhat fastidious—that the objection was
taken only on the sound reading of this bill that the
despatch of the French government was sot answered, end
he asked why the objection was not taken on the occasion of
the let/reduction of the Meager ? To that it roust be replied
this* the objection we, taken at that time. It was taken by
the right hon. gentleman opposite. and it was taken by has
right hon. Mend the member for Wiltshire. The complaint
wee then made; and, moreover, these was a reason why
every member of her Majesty's government should have re-
membered that the complaint was made, because not only
wm the complaint made, but the medicine which was admin-
istered by the =king of that complaint had not wholly
felled in its effect. BUM fruit and some result had been
produced from the making of that complaint, which he
(Hr. Gladstone) would proceed to show. Two questions
were involved, The :first was whether the despatch of the
French government had been answered, and the other,
whether or not it ought to have been answered before the
house wee called on to legislate, and as he for one felt deeply
the danger of diseassions of this kind when they came in the
shape in which they had been introduced by the administra-
tion, he must claim a right to state what were hie individual
heUags on the wiper of the relations between this country
and . He neublinenilse the house not to enter into
an eonadeastke etas Mk but he would coattail himself
atirrell4s the mass of ids right hon. friend. Bat though
his hon. friend ia Llt slmst speech as temperate es
ft was ebb and ossiebe =afar guarded hiothelf on
the •errellies of the geed rilsestandiog which it wae dea-
nship.% hemp op between this country and Frames, all
of the minibus of that hotoe might freely be
to mist for themselves the opthioes which
c—khatt eqmiud. What ha (Mr. Gladstone) felt
en that sableat was this. He believed that it was a bad
Owl* em wblldt a mike &mid Rand itself to draw • &o-
gled= between cats Ahem mad another; it was a true
pert/tat every rry *di at all times be in • state of
ndsmilmiry oierzelation with all
Bslkvlag tsmwettoltericept in cases o
the true f need
that that was the only Ws soma, and that any deviations from
Mat rule womb! haven, other effect than that of engendering
odium in may gnmetus, without enhancing friendship in
' ears, he was pot to say that to that rule there
might be an in the ease of can alliance
between Engird end Franoe. Sortie nations were
brought clorly together by geomphical proximity;
and the effects of their being bound together by
community of objecte mid interests were calculated to exercise
so vast an influence on the world, that he believed that there
could be no comparison between an alliance of this ountry
and France, and en alliance with any other state of Europe
and, for that reason, he believed that no other state in Europe
felt any jealousy, when In speeches from the throne, or in
the organs of pubc=on in this country, peculiar stress
was laid on, and weight was given to an alliance
with France." That was the feeling with which he regarded
the subjectoftherelationebetween this country and Prance;
and though as at present constituted, the government of
that country might be looked upon as recent in its origin, and
might, in some respects, be of such a nature as not to Induce
us whiny to sympathise with It, yet he would say, that we
Might to afford to that government an the aid, an the cor-
tege:tee, and all the anistatioe, in an which tended to the
promotion of justice, and right which could be demanded by
the most complete, International, competent, and by the most
ancient and most unspotted government in the world. Again,
so one who felt an objection to discusaimis like that
in which they were now engaged, ought to commence
or sir upon these udiectmedolut -without • preliminary con-
hears and admire that never in the history of the world,
as tested by his acts, had the country a more faithful or
loyal ally than the present Emperor gf the French.
Mow, hear.) He would go further, ens say that he re-
Let:gthat since the conclusion of peace in 1866, although
ame had continued to be raaftrained with tarter on
both side*, yet there had arisen questions each se 'thee
connected with the Ide of Serpents, with the PAadla
Sties and the Isthmus of Sur ; end which, set by the
fault of the French goverment, bad 2a
on of be
actite's= the two
grractei of the on
world. Ail this be (Yr. fltdgePll
IVY
"Vetted, and especially at •
said
happy occurrence which ws all Having
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ask
two question'. Firstly was the despellek_a
government answered?' aid seooadiv 4,11 a Ilqu'_7_2_
equivocal al they were ricers. be 'era the ?nook
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