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London, England, 1867-03-19 00:00:00

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IMPLRIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY, MAaca 18.

IN the HOUAE of LORDS, yesterday, the Bale of
Dogs Bill was read a second time. The sitting
lasted but a few minutes.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Mown:, Make 18.
Ix the HOUSE of CommoNs, Sir J. PAKINOTON
stated, in reference to the motion carried on Friday
evening for the abolition of flogging in the army
during the time of peace, that the government
could not consider a majority of one in a house of
215 members as a deliberate expression of the
opinion of the house, and that government had
inserted in the Mutiny Act the usual clause giving
power to inflict the punishment of flogging, and it
would be in the power of those who were opposed
to corporal punishment to raise the question again
by moving the omission of that clause.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then roes
to move for leave to bring in a bill to amend the
representation of the people in parliament. He
said be proposed to confine his observations to two
points. He would first state the object of the govern-
ment, and secondly, he would detail the means by
.which, in their opinion, that object would be acoom-
pluffied. And it would be for the house to decide,
first, whether the object was desirable, and secondly,
whether the means the government proposed were
adequate to effect that object. The object of the
government was to strengthen the character and
functions of the house, and they proposed to do
this by establishing them on a broad and popular
basis. Popular privileges and democratic rights
were not identical ; more than that, they were
contradictory. We did not live under a demo-
cracy, and he hoped it would never be the fate of
this country to live under a democracy ; and cer-
tainly the proposition that he was going to make
had no tendency in that direction. He would first
direct attention to the borough franchise. Under
the Reform Act of 1832 the principle was one of
value ; the franchise under that act was fixed at
10/. That franchise might fairly be considered as
having been an efficient and satisfactory franchise,
and it had operated to the advantage of the coun-
try. Since then various measure% had been brought
in to extend the franchise, all of which had this
characteristic—the diminution of the value on
which this franchise was founded. The measure of
last year was avowedly not one of principle,
but one of expediency. On both sides of the
house there was a feeling that that proposition
offered no prospect of a settlement, and the house
by one of the largest divisions on record asserted
the principle that the borough franchise should be
founded on rating. The government accepted that
decision. The moment they connected this rating
franchise with value they found a disturbing ele-
ment which gave no chance of permanency, and
therefore they determined to see what would be
the effect of a rating franchise without reference to
value. In England and Wales there are 1,367,000
male householders, of whom there are at present
644,000 qualified, leaving 723,000 unqualified. Of
these there were 237,000 who personally paid their
rates, and whom it was proposed by this bill to en-
franchise, two years' residence being required.
The remainder were persons whose rates were com-
pounded
for by their landlords, and it was not pro-
posed to give them votes, but they might by'
paying their rates personally acquire the right of
voting. They also proposed to give a right
of voting in boroughs to every person who
paid 20s. a year in direct taxation, in assessed
taxes or in income tax, provided he is a house-
holder ; and a person who paid this amount of
direct taxation would have two votes. There were
other franchises which they proposed, the posses-
sion of 501. in the funds or in the savings banks.
Then it was proposed to give an educational fran-
chise, which would include amongst others minis-
ters of religion of all sects. He estimated that
there would be added to the borongh franchise by
payment of direct taxes 200,000 persons ; under
the educational franchise, 35,000 ; under the 501.
fundbolding franchise, 25,000 ; under the savings
banks franchise, 45,000. Then, as he had stated,
there were 723,000 householders who were not now
qualified, of whom 237,000 would be directly quali-
fied by the personal payment of rates ; but as the
whole of the remainder might qualify to vote if
they would, he was justified in saying
that by these different franchises • mil-
lion voters would be added to the electoral
roll. He then came to the county franchise,
and stated that it was proposed to give a 15/. rating
franchise, which would qualify 171,000 persons.
The funded, the savings banks, and the educational
franchises, and the qualification by the payment
of 20a. direct taxation, would also be extended to
the counties and these different franchises would
add altogether upwards of 300,000 to the existing
county constituencies. He then came to the dis-
tribution of seats, and on this subject he remarked
there were two courses to pursue. One was to
create a new electoral map of England ; and the
other was to deal practically with the circumstances
before them, and take the opportunity as it arose
of giving representation to such places as ought to
be represented. The government were not pre-
pared to take the first course, but they adhered to
the plan he stated on a former occasion. The
thirty seats that would be obtained by disfranchis-
ing certain corrupt constituencies and by taking
the second member from the smaller boroughs
would be distributed among the boroughs and
counties he mentioned in his former statement.
In conclusion ho stated the government had
spared no pains and shrunk from no sacrifice
in their endeavour to settle this question.
They had had to appeal to a high spirited party to
sacrifice feeling and interest, and they had not ap-
pealed in vain, because they felt that the time had
arrived when this question must be dealt with suc-
cessfully and completely. They believed that this
measure, if adopted in its integrity, would settle
long differences and give satisfaction to the country;
it would give the representation to all who were
worthy of rt ; it would maintain the character of
that house, and prevent the preponderance of any
class.
Mr. Geanirrowa said there had been mammal
publicity given to the main provisions of this
and yet at this moment, after hearing the
statement of the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer—at this moment his mind was in a state of
obscurity and perplexity. With regard to the
numbers that would be admitted by the secondary
franchises, he looked upon the figures that had
been quoted as wholly erroneous and visionary.
He looked upon these new voters as
little more than mon in buckram. And he did not
think that as many as 237,000, or as many as
1140,000, after allowing for double qualifications,
would be admitted by extending the franchise to
all who personally paid their rates. It was said
that every facility was to be driven to compound
householders to obtain the vote. The facility was
that the compound householder was to have the
I privilege of paying over again that which he had
already paid. Moreover, they would be practically
leaving the franchise to the discretion of the vestry,
and the practice with regard to compounders varied
in almost every parish. He did not agree with
those who said that the principle of rating was the
bulwark of the constitution; but he did agree with
' those who thought that if they enfranchised all
householders they would get into a great difficulty
at the lower end of the scale, when they came to
deal with that class of householders who were ha-
bitually excused from poverty. He suggested
that the franchise should stop at that line.
I There were three safeguards proposed the
personal payment of the rates, the length
of residence, and dual voting. The first
he thought fundamentally wrong. If household
suffrage were to be established let it be established
I freely, and do not let them leave it to the wealthier
classes in a parish to enfranchise or disfranchise
the other classes at pleasure. To the proposition
for dual voting he, for one, from that moment re-
corded his implacable hostility. Dual voting
would be a gigantic instrument of fraud, and was a
proclamation of a war of classes, and he was in-
flexibly opposed to it.

Sir W. I'ZATBuors thought it necessary to guard
himself from its being supposed that he had given
any 'anent to this measure. He must reserve to

himself the right on the next stage of the bill to
take such course as ho thought right, without re-
ference to his party connection, and his present
impression of the bill was not favourable. It
seemed to him the bill would be objectionable to
both sides of the house.

Sir G. BOWYER characterised the speech of Mr.
Gladstone as captious and bitter. It proved to his
mind that all reform was impossible. He would
not go into the bill ; but his impression waa that
the dual vote would not do.

Mr. T. BARING said this was a measure that
ought not to be adopted without grave considera-
tion. The speech of the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer had not left his mind free of doubts, in the
first place, that it would be a settlement at all,
and, in the next place, that it would be a satisfac-
tory settlement. There was one thing they ought
to understand, and that was, to what extent the
government would adhere to the other franchises
which were offered as safeguards.
Mr. Lowe remarked that houselwld suffrage was
not a novelty. The present suffrage was household
' suffrage limited by a ten pound rent. The question
was whether the new safeguards supplied by the
Chancellor of the Exchequer were superior to the
old safeguards. Look at the first safeguard—per-
' sonal rating. If that went everything was gone,
and what security had they that it would be re-
tained ? The measure of the government was framed
on the assumption that they offered the franchise
to a great number of persons who would nut accept
it. The question really turned on the compound
householders. If they granted the vote to the
compound householders they might as well give up
the rating altogether, and take the simple occupa-
tion of a house. The franchise proposed was dif-
ferent from the municipal franchise. In municipal
corporations the compound householders had a
right to vote, and would it not be said
that it was invidious to have these dif-
ferent franchises 1 He thought that instead
of going into these claptrap schemes, by which they
gave a great deal with one hand and took it away
with the other, they should take the suggestion of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and let the
franchise meet at the point where the collector and
the householder met. Was the vital point of this
measure the duality of voting, or was dual voting
a tub to the whale I He could not express the
repugnance he had to that scheme. Anything
more invidious could not be devised.
Why was it they gave this second vote
Because they were doing what they believed
to be wrong in giving a vote to those who ought
not to have it. What they did let them do frankly.
He for one would be no party to giving power to
those he had no confidence in.

Mr. HENLEY saw many advantages in the pro-
position that those who paid rates should have
votes, and to that part of the bill he gave his cor-
dial support. The 15/. franchise for the counties
came very near to what he had advocated, and that
was that the franchise should be given to occupiers
of houses that paid the house tax. He had
heard nu reason to induce him to believe that dual
voting was other than unmixed mischief.

Mr Roaaucx regarded the objections of Mr.
Gladstone as having been made because the present
ministers occupied the Treasury benches. The dual
vote he looked upon as utterly impossible. He
should say, allow the bill to be introduced, and
then go to a second reading and bring it into com-
mittee, and take it, if necessary, out of the hands
of the government, but pass it.
Mr. B. HOPE thought the speech of Mr. Glad-
stone was one of the most conservative speeches ho
had ever heard in that house. This was not a
honest bill. It was a bill with two faces. It was
either an illusion or it would produce a revolution.
Mr. BUTLER-JOHNATONE said he was more hopeful
than he had ever been that they would arrive at a
final settlement of this question. He would prefer
that the working classes should have that prepon-
derance which had been spoken of than that the
country should remain disunited. This bill, he
thought, offered a basis for settlement, but he ob-
jected to duality of voting.
Mr. BUXTON stated that he alimild take an oppor-
tunity of submitting to the house a motion on the
subject of cumulative voting.
Mr. SANDFORD observed, with regard to dual
voting, that there was never a proposition made to
the house at once so illusory and so insulting. It
would not protect the minority, and it insulted the
majority. He asked whether, if this bill had been
brought forward by the government of last year, the
present ministry would have supported it. No party
would obtain the support of the country who did
not carry out when in office the principles they had
professed when out... . . .

Mr. B. OSBORNE thought they ought to give the
measure a fair consideration. He should move, at
a future stage, that the redistribution of seats
should be treated separately.
Lord CBANBORNIC looked on the bill as a house-
hold suffrage bill with two compensations, one of
which, the dual vote, was evidently unpalatable to
the house ; and the other, the personal payment
of rates, would probably soon be swept away. if
the conservative party accepted this bill they would
commit political suicide. .

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUZR repliod in a
very animated manner, taunting. Mr. Gladstone
with having delivered a speech intended for the
second reading, and with a view of throwing out
the bill. Ho maintained that there was no incon-
sistency in the present government bringing in a
reform bill, for they had brought one in before, and
there was nothing in his speeches or support of
any resolutions last year inconsistent with his pre-
sent propositions.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
The Criminal Lunatics Bill passed through com-
mittee.

The Inclosure Bill, the Petit Juries Bill, and the
Mutiny Bill, were severally read a second time.
On the motion for going into committee on the
Sale and Purchase of Shares Bill, Mr. GurNrem.
moved that the bill be referred to a select committee,
but after some discussion, in the course of which
Mr. Crawford and Mr. Cave opposed the motion,
it was withdrawn, and the house went into com-
mittee on the bill, but before the first clause was
gone through the chairman was ordered to report
progress, two divisions having been taken before
that decision was arrived at.

The house adjourned at 20 minutes peat 1.

*parting intelligence.

TATTERSALLIL—MONDAT.
Owing probably to the wretched weather, there were but a
limited number of members present at the subscription room to-
day, and the afternoon's proceedings were tame in the extreme.
For the city and suburban, Wild A retained her plays of
first favourite, at 100 to 8 offered, while Mayonaiso filly found
supporters at 100 to G. The top weight, Ostreger, was backed et
20 to 1 " with a start" and 40 to Ito a small amount was laid
against Thalia and Weather Star. Duesany showed the rapid
strides he has made fur the Metropolitan during the last day or
two, by beinitaupported at as little as 8 to 1; the remaining three
hones quoted were favoured with small investments only. For
the Two Thousand, 100 to 90 was laid a few times against Plau-
dit, and eleven fifties were booked about Hermit for the Derby.
Grand Cross found a friend at 1,000 to 35, and the long price of
LOCO to 3 was laid against • new outsider, Defiance. In the
course of the afternoon the Soiled Dove bets were generally
adjusted in accordance with the recent decision of Use com-
mittee. Appended are the quotations;
CITY AND SUBURBAN.
100 to 8 agst Duke of Hamilton's Wild Agnes, 6 yes, 7st 12Ib
(off)
100 to 0 Mr. W. S. Crawfurd's Mayonalse filly, 4 yrs,
Sat 131 b it)
10 to 1 Mr. S. Thellusson's Ostreger, 6 yes, list 7lb (t,
with • start)
40 to 1 lord Weetmorland's Thalia, 4 yes, 7st 41b (t
40 to 1 Mr. R. B. JefferfsWestberStar,3 yrs, sst 10lb (t'
IIZTROPOLITA.N.
1' 8 to‘l seat Mr. R. Sutton's Dungan,. 5 yrs, Bst 31b (t)
100 to 6 Baron Rothschild's Tourmalin, 4 yes, 7st IMb (t)
100 to 5 Lon' St. Vincent's Retribution, 4 yes, Est 714 Ai
100 to 4 Mr. B. R. Dunbar's Tormentor, 4 yrs, Set 710 it,
2 to 1 Mgt Dummy, 1, I, 3 (t)
TWO THOUSAND.
100 to 30 agst Major Elwon's Plaudit andinft)
20 to 1 Mr. R. Sutton's The General ,0B)
DERBY.
11 to 1 eget Mr. Chaplin's Hermit It, to C5O)
1000 to 35 Lord Exeter's Grand Cruse (t)
1500 to 3 Mr. R. Dick's &dance

BETTING IN LONDON.-NONDAT.

The transactions of to-day were neither very numerous nor
extensive. For the city and Suburban Wild Agnes continued to
hold the post of honour. She was backed freely at 100 to 7, and
finally found supporters at a point less. Lowdown, who ode
folly occupied a place In the front rank, returned to his old
position, and received strongisupport at lessening prices, down
to 15 to 1. Simonelse Ally was also In request at 100 to G. Aber-
geldie was backed at sr. to 1, but Thalia was driven to the 40 to
1 division. The Metropolitan showed the increasing firmness of
Iliumany, about whom 10 to 1 was readily accepted throughout
the morning, and at the close tun to 12 was booked. Tourmalin
found friends at 20 to 1 and 100 to 6, and the remaining transac-
tions stopped short at offers. For the Chester Clip Proserphie
had the call at 16 to 1, taken, whiles the other horses mentioned
were supported to a limited extent only. Very little was done
on the Two Thousand or the Derby, our was there any change to
record. Closing prices :