The Express.
London, England, 1860-07-27 00:00:00

(Stamped, ld. Additional.)

intracted in annuities might therefore be taken at about 1
31. 15e. per cent.: and therefore the difference of interest
between the two proportions of the lose was the difference
between 3/.Bs. and 1i.15e. All this, however, in consequence
of the manner in which the bidding. were received, was a
matter of ealonhatkee, and not of statement; but the pre-
sent prices of the two descriptions of security was a matter
of fact. The present price of the annuity was 16j There
were 25 years unexptred, and this gave as interact on the
annuity of sf. 15a. 6d. which included 111. Kt. of soaking
land ; is other wort* the net interest wee 31. 8.. 6d. per
1001. sterling. That was a fact which the hon. gentleman
could not dismitn The present interest en Console whe
65., and thus the difference was not mom than *of&
Yr. HUBBARD gave notice that he world tcycl.Frow
(this dayj again call attention to the subject.

SICILY.

Mr. GRIFFITH asked are:S-aetas, of State fore Foreign
Affairs, whether any proposition bad been mule beer
ser
jesty's government by the Special Envoy of the N him
government lately arrived bore, that the Log •
meat should join with the other powers in impoAlifid en-
forcing, by the means at their commend, an for
it months between the Neapolitan governments 'the
Sicilian government under General Genbakii, aid
her Majesty's government had any intention of e • •
ing any such proposition.
Lord J. SU ,SLL—Before Isgnwenthis questlend Mot
complete an avower which I gave the has. gentlemen the,,
other day. The hon. gentlemen asked me whether an Sway
had bees met by the King of Ihrillisia to ; aft
what was the purport of the soap which be canderlf .
and that an mde-de-cansp had bees sent, bat I mold not
then all the hes. gentleman whet thin the' astare of his
mesesign I have since then interment hem &Erin that the
masasige which was sent was a merage from the King of
yardiata to Garibaldi, proposing to him to make a truce
with the Neepelitswi forces, sod that he sbotdd engage
not to mates thy expeditiortanatost the territory of the
King of the Two SieUies on the mamboed. That
' message is entirely in conformity with the opt-
nth whisk Its lhjesty'a government Me impressed
before. With regard to the present question of the
hon. member, I have to state that it is true a special envoy
has arrived front the Neapolitan government; and they
hare proposed to her Majesty's government that her Ma-
, jetty's government mediate between the King of the Two
Sicilies end Garibaldi ; and that if that mediation for the
purpose of an armistice, and for preventing a further attack
upon the territories of the King of Naples should not be
received by Garibaldi, a force should be sent from Great
Britain and Frame with a view to impose the armistice
epos Garibaldi. To that proposition her Majesty's govern-
ment have declined to consent. (Loud cheers.)
THE POST-OFFICE REPORT.

SirCLHOWifrii rid he bad b;;;;K;;;;Kfihrittbe report
On the Post-office bad bees in the hands of the government
at least a week. He begged to ask the Secretary to the
T when it would be laid upon the table'
Mr. G paid that the report was placed is the hand,
of the Postmaster-General sores two or three day■ ago. It
involved matter* requiring the greatest consideration ; and
he wee Doi able tugiveithe banes soy assurance as to the
wane that would he taken with regard to it, or the time
when it would be produced.
THE 1111SINF39 OF THE SESSION.

Lord PiiiiEßZ ti;eun;al—t; tea motion of
which I pee notice the other day, with a view of frothier,-
tog the progress of the business of the session, which is now
far advanced. (A laugh.) 1 should hope that now the
period has arrived after which uo bills, except
money bills, or those involving matters of urgent
.Importance, can be sent up to the other house—
s, any rate the bills of private members have no chance of
paring through the other beam' ofsrlutment —I hope,
therefore, that the beads will nut e t to the proposal
that no Tuesdays orders of the day sl have precedence of
outline of Motions, government orders having the priority.
I had fixed Tuesday next as the first Tuesdey no width W.
arrangement should commence. lint I find that there are
bon. members who have motions for that day whom
should be sorry to disappoint, sod therefore I propose that
it shall commence on Mid after Tuesday, the 7th August.
The sootiest was then put from the chair amidst some
laughter.
Mr. DISRAELI did not oppose the motion, but corn-
, plainer' of the delay of the paper duty question, which be
pressed the government to fix for an early day after Monday
—say Thanday.
A desultory conversation followed on the state of public
business before the house. In the course of it,
Sir J. PAKINGTON urged the government to state at
onto what bills they proposed to proceed with, and what
not, and he likewise complained of the procrastination of the
discussion on the subject of the paper dries.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed
that, whatever might be the oommeroial importance of the
paper duties, the question, which had attracted a great deal
of attention, could not be despoiled of is a debate of an hour
or two ; it should have an entire and unbroken discussion,
and the government thought they should best consult the
convenience of parliament by waiting till they could select
an evening for that purpose. Ho thought Monday, the 6th
of August, was the earliest day.
After some further conversation, seasoned with a few oar-
Moms from Mr. Hoitinsg, the resolution was 1101301
EUROPEAN FORCES (INDIA) BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on the European
Fortes (India) Bill,
Mr. HENNESSY moved :—" That it be an instruction
to the committee that the half of all vacancies to be filled
up in the ranks of the European commissioned officers of
her Majesty's line or local troops serving in India be allotted
to thews& or orphans of officers, line or local, or the eons or
orphans of her Majesty's Civil Service of India, who have
served in India, and who shall have passed the prescribed
examination, and that the remaining vscancioi be filled up
by open competition, the succeasful competitors to pass
through one of the Royal Military colleges."
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE seconded the 'notion.

HERBERT thought the motion of the hon. gen-
tleman was not of a nature to be practically carried ont. To
be of any use to youug men who were orphans, commissions
must be without purchase. In onler to meet the difficulty
complained of, the government had determinist that
thoet young men should have, not only the option
of first commissions without purchase, but all future com-
minima without purchase, on entering the line, and to be
thence transferred to Indian service. But if they gave half
of all the commissions which fell vacant is the Queen's
army serving in India, of course the immense majority of
those commissions would be by purchase, which would be
DO advantage to those persons whom the hon. member
wished to favour. Ile (Mr. S. Herbert) was nut an advo-
cate for giving comniiviions to any particular class, as he
believed the army was not made for the officers, but the
officers for the army ; and he thought that a general system
of promotion by way of special eenunissions for special par-
poses would be better than the plan of the hon. gentleman.
In the year 1832 the cominiasious granted without
purchase were about 3,500; but previous to the
late Russian war they • avenged only 16 iu the year.
In one year they fell es low es 3. Of course a considerable
' number must be given to nomoommissiosed officers who
had earned their rank, and a certain number must be set
apart for these who pessoil through Sandhurst. If, then,
they laid down the principle that half must be given to the
sons of those who had been in the Indian service, an
enormous and disproportionate advantage would be given
to these persons over those who had served at home or in
the colonies. There was a particularity in the boo. gentle-
man's speech which had much struck him. The hon.
gentleman had read numerous extracts proving how excel-
lent a system was that of open competition ; but his motion
could have no other effect than to haul that competition.
Here an Roy. Maumee moved that the house be counted.
At that moment there were not 20 members present ; but
the division bells speedily summoned a great number to their
places.
Mr HERBERT resuming, expressed his surprise that an
attempt should be made to add another night to a session
already too protracted. (Hear, bear.) lie then resumed
his seat.

eolund STILES and MI. lames supported the motion, as
did

Sir DE LACY EVANS, who °humid that the propor-
tion of the appointments to he disposed kf aa suggested
was a mutter of detail, and need nut inteitere with the
adoption of the instruction.
The motion was likewise supported by Sir E. COLN-
nook&

The house then divided, when the numbers were :
For the motion l5
Against it
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE then moved, pursuant to notice,
that it be an instruction to the committee that they have
power to make provision for the filters regulation, disci•
lime, and patronage of the European forces earring in
dia. He said he thought the tams of his notion would
he ample enough to embrace the whole of this subject.
The hoe. member read very copious extracts from the
niintito of Mr. Willoughby, and the arguments urged by
Sir James Outrain and Sir Bartle Fears to favour of main-
taining a local force in India, accompanying the citations
with a commentary of his own. He dwelt upon the vast
amount of patronage the MR would give to the government,
which, he contended, would be an engine in their hands
that might be wielded for any purpose.
Sir DE LACY EVANS, is seconding the motion' after
censuring the conduct of the government is relation to the
bill, proceeded to discuss the grounds ansisned for the
smalmisation of the Indian army, which, he insisted, were
insumsient to justify the immure. Os the ether heed, he
appealed to testimony in support al the polity el etatioeieg
a local army.
Sir M. FARQUHAR, after lookidi oorolelly
the papers, was compelled
ito say that the reasons ginshYe et
the measure of sensation IMO ant sailiteetegy. lle
denied that the discontent (be would set Cell It tealleTtef
the European local troops was • sulloitat nem. Me
papers, he said, showed the absurdity of the datememt UNA
the mutiny was the muse of the tiff.
Mr. ROEBUCK moved the adjournment of Ike debate.
Lord PALMERSTON would not oppose the metier, It
was the duty of her Majesty's ministers to tit sod boles to

[T WOPENCE.

any length of speech gentlemen might make, or any length
of extract they might quote, and of course when arguments
failed, it was only natural for hon. gentlemen to resort to
quotations. But the government attached great imiortance
to the bill, and their patience was inexhaustible. They
were ready to sit till Christmas, if necessary, to pass it.
Mr. HORSMAN believed the noble loos was likely to
find himself met in the same spirit, and those who, were
opposed to the bill wereequally endowed with patient. to
sit till Christmas. Ministers, too, were sometimes at • lees
for arguments, and found it convenient to substitute for
them jokes. But the noble lord would find it difficult to
joke away the opposition to this bal. Whose interest was
it to serve, that the noble lord and thevernment were
ready to sit till Christmas ? (Hear, hear.)go The bow bed
been treated in this affair of the Indian army in a magnet
that was wholly without precedent. They were not pre-
pared to be overridden by the noble lord its a question
affecting the interests of the whole Indian empire, and the
continuance of the Queen's authority is that empire. He
could assure the noble lord that unless he was prs•parod to
substitute arguments for jokes, he would find it ,iitticult,
even if be did sit till Christmas, to force down the throats
of the House of Commons this most tutoonstitutional bill.
Mr. M. MILNES hoped the whirs lord would believe it
was with great pain that those who ordinarily suppoited his
government felt themselves obliged to resist the passage of
the bill. He trusted that this prolongation of the debate
would have the effect of inducing hon. members to study
the papers of which only too many were at present ignorant ;
I. sod be had no doubt that every division would tend to show
the noble loud what a &WILMS Wag it was to attempt
pass such • bill at this period of the session. (Hear.)
11 wee Away • voiatuwe to mob", her Majesty's govern.
.neat to do sobleitlihil ells lt bet why din they not state
what that something was? They might depend upon it
that this antagonism wee palely tamed by their unwil-
lingness to lot tha house pemtnite their intentions. (!dom.)
Mr. J. Bo SMITH ad not wish to defer sty factious
opposition, but after listesdeg to the debate on both sides,
he confessed that the arguments seemod to be wholly against
Ow Litt. The noMelsed taunted hon. members with ". reed.
big extracts,". but did the noble head know whist tiffeut those -
extracts bud had? (Fleur, hear.) Not one man in twenty
bad read the wises ; but after beer* the extracts that
had bees gaoled, the opinions of a west.nniifer of mem-
bers who had voted for the second reading had been changed.
He hoped the goy entinent would postponerhe bill ;'but Hoot,
he trusted that hon. gentlemen would goes readirgextreets.
Such en, important ineasnre ought. certainly not to be
brought in at the fag end of the session, when so few mem-
bers could be got to attend to the debate. Why, when the
motion was made •to cdunt the bow, there were only 1T
members present. (Hear,hear.) • ,
After a few wools from Colonel STEM and Mr. NEWDZ.
cave, this debate was adjourned till the evening sitting this
daY' when it will be taken instead of supply as previously
fixed. . .
EAST INDIA STOCK TRANSFER, Ac., BILL.
Sir C. WOOD, In moving the secood reading of this bill,
announool his intention to introduce a nurober of amend.
meats which would obviate the objections of his gallant
friend (Colwell Sykes).
Mr. VANSITTA.ST expressed a Lope that the bill would
not affect thit security fund.
Sir C. WOOD answered that it would
Hie IL WILLOUGHBY denied that the government
could justly introduce a clause handing over to the Treasury
the whole of the guarantee fund.
After a conversation, the bill was read a second time,
and paned through committie pro formal.

ANIOB ![EMBER OF COUNCIL (LNDIA) BILL
Sir C. WOOD explained that the object of this bill wax
to empower tie senior member of enema to preside, in
the abeam of the Governor-Gesmal or regular president.
Bill mad a second time.
BLIPERANNI7ATIOIST ACT (1859) AVENDMENT BILL.
Bill read a tamed time.

ADMIRALTY JURISDICTION (INDIA) BILL
Bill road nixed gum

GUNPOWDER, &c., BILL.
On the consideration of the amendments,
Colonel LINDSAY moved an amendment prohibiting the
emotional gunpowder mill within 200 yards of a turnpike
rood.

Sir G. C. LEWIS opposed the amendment, as interfering
too seriously with the trade.
The ameudinent was withdraws, and the other amend-
ments were nroed to.