The Express.
London, England, 1860-05-02 00:00:00

sad dimly, he nadentood, the meet excellent ekes od
.ems. WNW bang enrdisd. He belt beide hand some
ealatithe ham a mememiondeme whisk bed takentz
1 btherithe the mum ef Hindered and Idles of Aba
I the Wm laving written to the former to societal* their.
=4 the Ohm the Hmthirool men gave it their
They believed that they would not be
mad en7reere:in ems of emergency far national defence,
'Many man, they added, who mad &dim under sash
eieenmedname we net it to be a reserve me. (Cheers.).
nor as net went to be tam away flora their
emennel+l pneentie for little wars at far distabeea,
mei en Chia or the RIM Plate, but for a great •
trear they were ready at • moment's notice.
ca bmes.) With this hies they would have, on emir-
=l4,ooo men available, and these being all good men,
be most valuable. (Hear, hear.) The noble and
learned lord had blamed him for not enlisting more men.
No doubt he might have made • greater show on paper,
but his object had been to confine himself to good seamen
as much as possible. He believed the pith which be bed
adopted was the beet. The noble and learned lord eald.bow
could they expect men to join the navy for. stay 61.
year? But just let the noble and learned lord consider the
question in all its bearings. Suppose the government=
the men 141. or W. a year, what would be the
Why this, that they would not join any service at all.
They would prefer Wang the amount and doing job work,
and in feet the wholi of the men would became panaceas
upon the pudic path What was wanted was simply to.
give the men enough to make it a tie upon
them to make them so that they might
'be qualified and litterve,
for the navy when
they might be required. If the overnment gave • very
much lamer eneWlittes ex which they had '
81'884 got would that= a drank= fellows. The I
bounty bad been iffightly rained, and it was now 61. ; but
that was only deterinined upon after much consideration,
and he found that the system pursued at Liverpool and
elsewhere by the Admiralty had umpired fresh life and
' vigour into the merchant seamen, and it had induced a large
number to join the service. (Hear, hear.) Now as to the
love fa the service. What wee Penny wanted was a system
whereby they could bring on boys to serve at sea • for boys,
after two years Mesa, were far better than most of the
inea who mime from the merchant service. But
what had really been done in this respect! He
had recently asked for a return of the boys now em-
ployed in the navy and he found that in 1856—whieh waa
a year of war—thenumber of first and second clam boys
ameuseed to 4,900. la 1856 they entered for service 3,000.
la 1867, 1,500; in 1858 they entered 1,690; and in 1859
they ordered no lees a number than 5,147 boys. (Hestr,
hear.) Now, would the noble and learned laid my that
that wee the rising interests of the navy! There
were about 000 boys in the service and in training. lint '
it should be observed that in training boys for active ser-
vice there must be a due proportion of men. They
had not needy reached the quantity that amid
be employed. The number would be increased,
end, amordiesly is . this year's estimates there was
an addition over Let ye= et 11,090 in the case of men, and
there would be an addles of 2,000 boys. He thought the
comae puninelle, to boys was a wise one. He bad
consulted many enple and they all said the indeed bays
were the beet peenaikand that the Admiralty could not
give them tee ehrif.l= all these thinp mud be dome
with peat ea= hmeme m p=. given carelessly, or with-
out die elesUoe adght involve a large and useless
Ire=or more thiw might be convenient. The noble
lord led Mimed to the irreten of absolute
law far reining the =u da. sad siespeted that it should be
adopted for the seep Bat •he OM Duke of
temesil believed they smy meek edema would be most
se =Pith le the wry. We= hear.)
sequleei nab the nave =popular and
to powered minks out ethcieni force, it would
be to by rosorri agleam droohalo law. (Hear, hear.)
With ..peel a Mud Leo= of the Admiralty, ha ho=
trealdami be meosidered a peat midertuas if they
mot be nose 4 lord Iserniag : end upon this mtbjest be
would =kr lair. leeditipe to an excellent speech of the
lets Sir B. NA ia Mesh he pointed oat how Lord Howe
was treated whom he wee First Lord, and also how Admired
Koppel and Lord St. Vincent were hunted from the Admi.
silty. Lord St. Vinceat was most unsuccessful If their
lordships went into the question of naval First Lords be did
not think they would have much to complain of. The fact
was this (as we understood the noble duke) ; it was necessary
that they should have mate in whiniest, and be able to
give an amount of everything that was being dose at the
Admiralty. He felt certain that everybody who knew how
many questions of various Made bad to be attended to would
admit that it was not by any means necessary that • man
should have • navel learning for the position of Plea lard.
The noble and learned lord bad referred to the constant
changes which took place at the Board of Adminilty. That
ea fax mm &Ameliorate's,. was not envied to the
same extent as formerly. IVheb he came bite Mahe
found a naval lord at the board who was an officer
under the government of the noble earl opposite
(the Earl of Derby). Under the present order of things
they retained some of the old board, and some new men
were introduced, and he thought the introduction of new
blood did much good, for it gave every man an opportunity
of gaining experience which he could not otherwise obtain,
and he felt sure that every man who had had a seat at the
board was more fitted to take ution himself an important
at a distant station. Hear, hear.) He would
not follow the noble and learned cod through all his speech,
for there were some parts of it which could be better dis-
cussed when the budget should be before the house.
(Hem hear.) What he (the Doke of Somerset
wanted to do was to form a navy which should sustain
the reputation end honour of the country. They might
have difficult times yet, and there should be no considera-
tion of party either in this house or the other house of par-
liemeut to prevent them doing that which was necessary to
render the navy efficient for all the purposes of the country.
A peat deal had been said in reference to the block ships,
and it was asked why did the Admiralty keep them in the
river ? No doubt for the purpose of going to sea they were
condemned, but for the purposes of training men and
for being batteriesat the mouth of the river they were most
useful vessels, and if they were condemned altogether they
would be sent tithe yards, and be stripped and become mere
hulks. He believed it was advisable that they eliould be
kept up for the purpose of defending the mouth of the
river. The noble duke having apologised fur detaining
their lordships so long a time, resumed his seat amidst
cheerio

Lad HARDWICKE expressed his regret that so long an
interval had elapsed before active measures were taken for
oarrying into effort the recommendations of the royal
commission as to the formation of the naval reserve : at the
same time he wee glad to find, from the exceedingly clear,
frank, and candid speech of the Duke of Somerset, that the
government had become impressed with the necessity of
activity. He concluded his speech with some remarks upon
the necessity of impressment in manning the navy in cases
of grreet need.
The subject shortly afterwards dropped, and their lord-
ships adjourned at five minutes to 8 o clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-Tum" MAT 1.

The Brum took the chair at a fow minutes before four
o'clock. . . .

The Dublin and Drogheda Railway Bill and the Water
ford and Limerick Railway Bill were respectively road •
second time.

THE IRISH COURT OF CHANCERY.

Sir E. bitOGAN inked the Attorney-General for Ireland
whether any steps were being taken to carry into effect the
recommendations of the cornmitteeappuinted to inquire into
the Court of Chancery in Ireland.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said the
government did out intend to introduce any bill this session,
and they could not carry out the recommendations of the
committee without.