The Express.
London, England, 1858-05-19 00:00:00

LONDON, WEDNESDAY Ei7KNING, MAY 19, 1858.

mote to previous letters which had sot been resolved at the
Heard of Control, but which meet have catbird as maple-
macs of the procemeation. Ima only my en the gar, of
my right boa. friend the lets hoiden of the Board of Cos-
iest that he hes received no letter tram Lord Ceasing ea-
=iBthe proclamation. (Hear, heir.) If ma haters
s: wasted the governmest they have eertabny sot
leadhed_mr right hon. bind. (Hear, hear.)
The CIIANCHLLOB of the EXCHEQUER—I beg to
my that I did sot make, 111. did I intend to make, any is-
namelies. ("Oh, oh," sad cheers.) Some genneenso seem
mey wady to vendee iniesnette on their conduct. (" Oh,"
sad eitere.) I mem meet unequivocally that I made no
fasiaaalloa. If I have say chaise to make I mats it in
that meet be mistaken—(bser, bear)--mad the
laa=l odiusdouleed she whoa be MOW that I said that
there were expenakina is the Imre we have eseiveil Irma
Lord Cassiag Mimi to_pMiol. Utters No smolt
words fell fres Eta lee. What I mid was, that there ware
observations is the which Miffed apparently to other ht-
tars and cosenneeee of which we had so moan* sad is
which them war Bretons some obscurity, which, in the sto-
ma it the ether Were, we could set exphdn.
Sir J. SMILLIT—I beg to ask wirer, the geventastat
Ir swathed say information whether say proclamation has
best kneedes or no ?
The CHILNCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I said that
wo were pomemion of information that a proelmeation had
bus issued, and the coarequemas which followed, but that
we had had no °Sinai communicants from Lord Canning to
that edict.

J. PATINGTON—I no able to mower the queellas
el ben pigeons. I have whine the last half hoot nos
en Ann age melee& leas Low last night, who, beim
Loeb& wee to asenee- • sake with Sir Coln Care=slie
Lainpreand hie -

Weeiiinetion _ bed—
betaresined. Maar, bear.)
Mr C. WOOD—Ara we to undentend that the procla-
mation bed arrived, or had it been ben ed ? (Hear, beer.)
Mr 3. PAKINGTON—Sir Colin Campbell's agrarian
Tea, that a proclamation had been meat to Lurnow. (Hear.)
Lord A. VANE TEMPEST—I beg to eat the right ben.
gentlentau the member for Northampton if be has any ob-
jection to produce those parts of the letter of Lord Canute(
which he received es President of the Board of Control, which
refer to Indian subjects?
Mr. V. fildlTH—No. I her elreedy stated the sub-
stance of the letter, sad I said that it was at my discretion
to eoremanicate spert of that raw to govern-
mart, but that I duet think it important, and I did not
do se. (Ironical obsen.)
Lord A. VANE TEMPEST —The right hon. gentleman
has not answered the question which I put. (" Order," and
" Chair." aid ebere.)
The SPEAKER—There a no motion before the hones,
and it is not ecenprent to any hen. member to enter into an
argument
..
VANE TEMPEST—I want to pat the question
I previously addressed to the right hon. gentleman the mem-
ber fee Morrisroe, whether he has any objection to lay
before the house any parts of the letters of Lord Canning
which relate to Ines?

Mr. V. have already answered the question,
and I have stated the nabstance of these letters to the house.
Bir J. ELPHINSTONE was proceeding to address the
home when he wee met by loud cries of "Order," and
"Chair I" He then moved the adjournment of the house,
and said—l understand that there is a gallant officer now in
Landes who recently held a high command in Oude, when
he performed great dada, and he has stated publicly on
various ocamedons that be has been in communication with
the of in command and Lord Canning since the publi-
cation of the proclamation, and he has stated what wee the
impression on lord Canning's mind and on that of others
with regard to the proclamation, and it would be satisfactory
if his evidepos was brought before the honer. I beg to with-
draw the motion for the adjournment of the house.
Mr. V. SMITH—This is • very irregular proceeding. The
hon. gentleman rays that there is certain evidence in the
possession of a gallant officer which the house should exa-
mine. If the hon. gentleman knows what it is, why does he
not state it.
-

The moil= for the adjournment of the house was amp
withdrawn.

pried. net requality had been redressed so far as re-
✓uled the lsgaer daty, by the suotassion duty, but reel
remained free from probate duty from A.
I:Mtied say erivelent impor. In a form: year the
Clammier etas ftrequer held that headed property ought
to be esempt tress this tax, brines it bore as equivalent in
the shape stamp dodo as. ecomeyeneek but since that
time ft apeigalent stamp duty had begs imposed upon the
cromminess of ell other desalseices of property.
He was appealing to • reformed Hoer of Commons. This
to ta a bereagleseareingpsetrusest, in 1796, era loet by •
rake* of two, sod lhe hoped AA a refired parliament
word set with more lures, la hoposhog the name tax en
themeless width they t ea every whir elm of society.
He basal that if the Chsac.Bor of the Exchequer would
=ll,4prieltatzadaty cm landed
world property,
notw is many
e him turnd
out of elks The right hoe. gentlemen, on a former a-
rra, mid that • great care of the fall of nations had been
he examption of a OLIO of the community from taxation.
Thre wife noble sestizeests, and he hoped the right hoc.
gentleman would tarry them out.
Tr arks WWI seconded by Mr. HADFIELD, and sup-
ported Ity Mr. Ascoox.
GLADSTONi gave a abort explanation in reply to
• rum& made by Mr. Hatfield.
Mr. WRIGHT pointed out the inequality between the
saccedies duty and the legacy duty, to the disadvantage of
the atrallon of personal property, and urged that One aed
the sera yard* should be applied to land and to all other
specie' of
After a CPtreervations by fib H. WILLOUGHBY and Sir
J. *lie*,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply
▪ lic.ardiume, expleard the diamities that would-lis in
the way of awry attempt to repair any hareem in the
operatics' of the legacy and enoesedon duties, supposing any
injustice misted. He calculated that the probable result of
soaking corporations liable to the succession duty would
produce not quite 4,600 L a-year, lass the bill, of coats.
Sir O. LEWIS mid he had carefully examined the quali-
ties, and be hod come to exactly the same conclusion a
t_ hon. gentisman. He considered that the oat of
the dry on °immures would be more than the
assures would yield. (Bear, bear.) With regard to the
sekerion of the probate duty to corporations he would remind
the hors that that could not be effected without entirely
changing the law °twills relating to real and personal property.
If the Col Were agreed to the result would be that per-
reel and personal property would make two
will.s,wose of which they would prove, and the other they
would not. After • certain time, therefore, the alteration
would prove unproductive. (Hera, bear.)
Mr. HENLEY observed that though real property was
exempt from probate it was liable to stamp duty. The hon.
gentleman hod rationed • case in which • person had had
a real estate left to hire • but if that fortunate person wished
to sell his property he :meld have to pay • very large sum
to the government to the way of duty. On the other bend,
he would have nothing to pay if he sold an equal amount of
Console. (Hear, hest.)
Mr. L. KING observed, in reply, that there was • stamp
duty on the trenahrettoe of all personal property, with the
exception of the fluids. He should rapport the motion.
Sir J. GRAHAM should vote sprig the motion, bat he
wished to make or or two aberrations, became ha was •
member of Lord Aberdeen's govenunent, which had reed
the Baconian Duty Bill, and had given a promise that
that duty should be extended to real property. (Hear,
beer) He must say he was not satisfied with the calcu-
lations of the Chancellor of the Exchequer with respect to
the products of the tax. (Hem, hear.) It was a matter of
somewhat sloe calculation, but even upon the right hon.
gentleman's own data the produce of the tax would be
15,00 W. and not 4,0001. a year. (Hear, hem.) With re-
gard to the remakes which the right bon. gentleman had
mentioned, some of them seamed to him (Sir J. Graham) to be
of very doubtful validity : he should, to instance, doubt the
propriety of exempting all property belonging to charities.
(Hear, hear.) The whole subject was, however, one well
deserving of the investigation of the house. (Hear.)
Mr. WILLIAMS, in reply, ventured to say that instead
of the wholsoorporste property of the kingdom molding only
4.0001. • year, that belonging to the City would )field ten
times that amount. (Heer, bear.)
The house divided :

Aye,
Noes
The motion was thus lost.
INSURANCE SOCIETIES.

Mr. H. B 811/16711olstainadVavo; bring ins bill
rsgalsta inswanoe and annonnon institutions and to
aeangofor Bair hmorromition.
_CONSPIRACY TO MURDER.

Mr. BLAbii-M;;;l7orisa" ve to bring inn bill to repeal so
meifkalitheact of 10 °eerie IV., c. M, as related to conspi-
tames and solicitations to murder in:lreland ; but ultimately
canaented to withdraw his motion.

RECREATION OF ADULTS.
Mr. BLANEY moved for leave to bring in 'a bill to
enable or facilitate grants of land to be made neer
poptdoes places for the use and regulated recrea-
tion et adults, and at playgrounds for poor children.
He kit it waded/able at that particular hour of the evening
(belt-past seven)—(a laugh)—to detain the house at any
length ; but be hoped to he able to show the neuessity of the
measure he proposed. With a great increase of population
end wealth, the poorer classes had been driven Into more
confined neighbourhoods, and no suitable spaces had been
reserved when they might obtain air end exeroiss. Borne
26 years ago he had proposed a similar motion; a select
committee wee appointed ; of the 23 members of that com-
mittee only three were now in the house. Their report was
decidedly in favour of parks being provided for the people.
Since that time the population had incased 100 per cent. In
30 years in the neighbourhood of large towns—the increase
in the country at large being 46 per cent. In Bethnal green
the increase in 10 years had been 22 per cent.; in Bhore-
ditch, 30 per cent. ; In lelington, 76 per oent.; in Chelsea,
60 per out. ; in Bermondsey, 32 per cent. ; in CM-
bsrvell, 40 per cent.; in Greenwich, 20 per cent.
In the name period, Wolverhampton had increased 30 per
cent; Birmingham, 26; and Bradford, 40. In the whole of
England and Wales the increase had been only 14 per ant.
in the same period, and 9 per cent, in agricultursi districts.
Ia the period from 1801 to 1831, the increase of Birmingham,
Manchester. end Liverpool, had been no less than 90 per
cent. The house would easily see the neoemity of some pro-
vision being made to meet this vast incomes. The report of
the committee he had referred to and that on the health of
towns in 1840, bore strongly upon this point. In the eastern
portion of the metropolis the mortality was double what It
was in the western. The cam wee the rams in the manu-
facturing towns as mothered with agriculture/ districts. The
law was greatly to Marne for this state of things. He pro-
pcsed by his bill to take power for Betting apart suitable
grounds la the neighbourhood of large towns. The committee of
1833 had reommended six such places near London. Three of
them—Battersea-park, Victoria-park, and Primrose-hill-
park—had since been formed. Independently of legislation,
much might be done by voluntary efforts, as at Birmingham,
Manchester, and elsewhere. Muth also might be done by
the owner of villas end parka neer the metropolis. At pre-
sent the BM thing they did was to build up a high wall
round their domain : if the proprietors would remove those
wells, and substitute an open railing, it would afford great
pleasure to the pedestrians in those neighbourhoods. The
principle of limited liability might also be called in, to aid the
efforts of those who wished to provide places of public recrea-
tion. Be would suggest the erection of shelter-houses in
each of the perks, where amusements might be provided
under proper regulation. Re anticipated shortly the ereoHon
of what might be celled railway villages, where working
men would reside, being conveyed to and fro at a light expense
by the railway womanise. Ile would suggest that the
five or six commons in the neighbourhood of London should
be drained and appropriated ea plaice of public recreation.
He would also tab power by his bill to provide children's
play-grounds, so amok needed at protest in London. On
' the slat metes, or something approaching to 11—(a laugh)
and ender the care of monitors, children might be ad-
mitted to some of the leas frequented squares in London. He
would emetics one corner of Lincoln's-inn-fields and Red
larstridnutia bees moved that the house should be
coasted. Them wen only about 27 members present, but
Won the doors could he dosed some 20 or 30 more watered,
and lbe tlegrdette umber was that made up.
81.Aig/tY them moved ter leave to bring in his bill.
Mr. BRISCOE rumaded the modes.
Kr. WALPOLE said be should have been sorry if the
beneveient objeet of hie how. friend bad been defeated by
the attempt that bad been made to count out the bones.
In
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the bal.oer. bear ) He sitsedd certeinly not oppose the bringing
Leaver was thim gives.