The Express.
London, England, 1859-03-29 00:00:00

PUBLIC-HOUSES IN SCOTLAND.

L newer N 84. A. Aonzw,
The LORD ADVOCATE said that It was not cemdetent
with the real pesedee to give the names of gentlemen sp-
rinted on a toyal oemmYdoa before they bad teen sub-
mitted to her Mekong, mad this bad not been done in the case
of the commission appointed to Inquire Into the waking of
the Public-Honses Let (Scotland). It was the intention of
the government that the inquiry should be general, end ex-
tend to the whole Lictemiag system ta Scotland.

THE REFORM BILL.
Yr. GRIFFITH said the Chasesllor of the Exchequer,
whether the plan of uniformity of trandine between oountiea
and boroughs was considered by government to form en
means' principle of the proposed Representation of the
People Bill, on which the fate of the bill was to depend; or
whether, on the contrary, ft were only one of these details
which, though forming part of the original suggestions of
government:was to be considered to be open Joan inanition
or °Meeks in committee which that house, is its wisdom,
sight determine upon.
Thu CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—In an-
remsdne the garden of mg has. Mimi, I beg $e widths
athstion of the boom to the caramel, inconvenient manner
in which thie all to emend the representation of the people
is debated. (Hear, hear.) It ie debated, if I may use the
expression, wholesale sad retril. (Cheers.) We have had
it debated in a who're's manner for four nights, in a debate
which I think has really been metalled on both Mae with
unusual interest and unfaltering power; and I shall be per-
fectly ready, when the opportunity occurs to me In the
wholesale debate, to vindicate our policy, and to explain the
°mule which the government have thought fit to puma.
(Hier, bear.) But I most my, in answer to the question of
my hon. friend, as I mid in =twee to a question from • gen-
tleman en the other aide, that it is not within the scope of a
fair answer ti • question put at this time, to enter into this
subject. (Hear) Generally sprain, I win my that we place
bane the house • memorewhichespreesse the policy which the
government would recommend. If there are my (endemics
who think that en the whole the dipadventema counter-
batmen or °awe& the advantages of the course that we
recommend, it will be open to them to vote against the bill
en the mooed ending; that is the legitimate course. (Hear,
heir.) If, on the contrary, the bill should go into committee,
I shall, on the part of the government, listen to my propo-
sition that may be wide in that spirit of candour which be-
comae me. (Hear, beer.) And if the decides which the
house arrives at on any definite proposition is contrary to the
course which the goveinment; has recommended, then it
will be epic to us to conelder the dedsiou at which the ma-
jority bee arrived, and to act in that manner which we think
our duty dictates. (Hear, hair.)
NORTH AMERICAN MAIL SERVICE.
Mr. COWPER asked whether the government would be
committed to the expense of a third mail service to. North
America, in addition to the two mil services for which
&sum of 176,3401. win aerated in the packet eetimate, before
a vote for that purpose could be sebratted in committee of

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They CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER NM that
the contract alluded to was not completed, but was under the
consideration of the Admiralty. As that contract related to
• service not yet commenced, there would be so necessity for
taking money cm account.
MASTERS OF THE INDIAN NAVY.
Colonel FRBESTUN asked whetter it was intended to
grant to the masters of the Indian Navy the same privileges
ugariing pensions and furlough to Europe, which the other
nt of the Didion service enjoyed P
Lord STANLEY said there was no question that the po-
sition of the matters wee in many instances anomalous ,• but
the saps to be taken Cm its improvement were included in
another and much wider que.tion—what would be the future
arrangements with regard to the Indian service. Until he
heard from the Governor-General on the subject, be could
not give a satisfactory reply. -
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THE REFORM BILL.

On the motion for resuming the debate on this till,
Br. E. JAMES sail he rose, shortly to offer his opining
le support of the resolution of the noble lord. (Hear, hear.)
It wee • remarkable feature in the debate on thie bill that
there was not an hon. member unconnected with the Trea-
sury bench who had not condemned the bill (to me the
Chancellor of the Eschequee's phrase) wholesale and retail.
(Cheers and "No, no, " from the government side.) He
maintained that there was hardly one member unconnected
with the Mastery bench who had not found some fault with
what he considered the vital and eubstantial principles of the
bill. (Hear, hear.) The resolution was directed against
the three main and fetal objections to the bill. It *eked the
bowie to Ohm that the enfranchisement contemplated by
the bill was uneatisfectory end inadequate; that the die-
feinclinement was unjust, and he thought a violation of the
constitutional franchisee of this country ; and that
the non-exteiseion of the tramline doomed to dismpoint-
meat a large and Intelligent clan of the community. How
had the resolution been met ? It had not been debated merely
oa its met its; but the Solicitor-General had thought it right
to impute personal motives to the noble lord. (Hear, hese)
Sir E. B. Lytton had said there wee a fear of Americanising
the House of Commons. It appeared to him that ens of
the moat fatal modes of AMeTiCalang their debates wee to
introduce personal attacks such as that which bad been
made &mutat the noble lord. (Hear, hear.) lie (Mr.
James) certainly expected when the Solicitor-General rose
on Friday, that be bad done so to make some &poi egy, or
express some regret for an attack which every one who
knew the position and character of the noble lord would feel
to be entirely unmerited. (Cheers) if to might refer to
what had token place out of doors ha found that a letter had
been published by enable cut (Grey), a proceeding &genii
which he earnestly and sine rely protested. (Hew,
hear.) Thera cluld be no more inoonvesiat courts
upon the eve of a groat debate in that house
thou that a noble lord, not tea eying himself for a proper
time end opportunity to expre:s his opinion—(hear, hear)—
should think It right to address • totter to another noble lord
(Lord Elcbo), a member of that house, not merely suggest-
ing to him bow to vote, butesiling him that the letter might
be made public. for the peonage of inducing otter mewbors to
resist the ameedesent. (Hear, hear) That was a practice
highly inconvenient. Had that letter been written to any
voter pendieg an election it would have been
an infraction of the revolution of the house of
1802, which do lend that nu peer should nears
bituseU or istedere with the freedom of electron,.
The ruling papers infal an tl,Cntill port ot the scheme, if
there wee to be • large number of non-resideottal voter,.
(Heir, beer.) The introduction of the word, lands or tene-
ments in the bill was a evening device to vetoed thin class
of voters. (Hear, bear) It would not be necessary to have
• bootee se ail, fora pine of laud .nth • cow.hott-o ur a
stye would come under the 60110IninalnOn encrust, an be
believed It had been held that a piece of wall against which
cattle rubbed themselves was a tenement. (" Hear, hoar,"
and laughter.) The voting papers were therefore an essen-
tial part of the scheme, and the measure, inetead of being •
name reform bill, was nothing but • bill of political retalia-
tion. (Cheers.) It gave property more power, and if it pused,
a etre factory would be immediately forced for the manatee-
ture of fin i.ious non-resident voters. He lad been twitted
by the observation that the bII would give Mar} bloats
18.000 addiVonal voters. He admitted that, and wee Health-
ful for it—(a laugb)—but while on the ono baud it would
increase the electors in large Mono, on the other bend they
still would only return two members,. whilst the increase all
suffrage would be counterpoised by the introduction of non-
resident and fictitious voters. (Hear, hear.) lie did not
think that the right bon. and learned gentlemen the
Attorney-General for Ireland could bane reel the whole bill
when he made his speech on Friday night, and must sup-
pose that he was oecup'ei in framing the reform bill ft r Ire-
lend. (Laughter.) The right hon. gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer endeavoured to drew an analogy
between the voting papers for poor law guardians and the
voting pipes proposed by the bill ; but there was no aleatory
betwe co them. The voting far guardians was care iod on
locally. The voter got the paper six or raven days
before the day of voting; the police brought them
to the house with the names of the eeedidotes
written on them; but le an election for a member
of parliament the name of the candidate might not be known
till the day of nonticatioa, and the polling commenced the
second day. (Hoar, beer.) He called on the right hsn.
gentleman the member for Cambridge University to show
any machinery In the bill to meet this defect. These voting
p mere would become • wen machine for fraud, bribery, and
intimidation. (Beer, beer.) Why did hmy for bribery
Foe this reason—as every gentlemen who attended upon an
election committee would readily underetend—that nothing
would be easier than for • parson te go to the veer who re-
calved a voting piper, and give him sf. for it. By this mania
he had the vote in his poetise. (Hear, bear.) It would
fact make the oysters of bribery mere complete than ever.
(Hear, hear.) It would aka lead to intimidation. He would
ark the house to *Were the position of • voter with
one of these voting pamrs in bin porneeloa,' and the
landlord mad agent standing beside Dim. That this would had
to intimidation war the opusion of the noble lord the Seem-
Lary for Indio, become in 107, on the motion of the sable