The Express.
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spinet two gentlemen who were eatholie priests. The go-
veramoat had also taken steps for the removal of the trial
from Mayo to Dolby enebelving that at the latter place •
bother opportunity would be era for the trial. Proceedings
were liken mint the Ewe. JR_ . Conway in the first in-
seam" and properly so take, blame in hie rue thee. wane
charges of °nude ads se well se of statemets, while in the
tees of Mr. Rya& the charm candled to weeds only. Thy
trial against Mr. Conay, however, bed come to no neefel
termination. He (Mr.w Whiteside) otmerared with the noble
had who had last spoken that Ore ems a great diat-
oms between statements made before a committee
by winnows, and the evidence which those witnemee gave
in awl under the responsibility of an oath. He
het thurefore given instructions for bring furnished with
ODOM of the abort-hand writers' notes, both at the trial and
Wore the committee, and when he had compared than he
amid, if the noble lard thought fit to make the inquiry,
aisle the view at which he arrived upon making that oont-
pathos. It would then be open to the house to express any
°pinks which it might think desirable.
the 0. GREY thought that the house having given
directions for the prosecution, ought not now to interfere in
the matter. That prosecution had takes piece and had led
to no emelt. It was for the government now, upon its own
respandteity, to consider whether a esoand trial should take
pin*.
Mr. J. D. FITZGERALD said if be might ventme
to express any opinion he would labors to advise that Wi
don against the Rev. Yr. Couresy and the Rev.. Mr.
ratenshould no further be persevered in. He thought that
no good result could come a/ any further attempt to du •
charge upon either of those gentlemen.
Mr. FRENCH approved of the coarse recommended by
the lest speaker.
I NDIA. —C H U RCH RATES.

Mr. RICH tVtelititazionta-e- addition to the ge
ee siket.
W hied deed' with reference to the throe-
belles. He nmeindisd home that there were sew
belie of men roving about, sued while it was no doubt
that the guilty should be brought to condign punishment,
yet those who had been led by fear or by
example to enter into the revolt should have a
door opened to them through which they might
return to their alloti. This held good more eapielOy
with regard to the hadtaste of Oude, whose case, in many
respects, was different to that of other parties to the mutiny.
He trusted that some proclamation would be put forth offer-
ing SOW MEWS to those who would submit themselves to
the mercy of t
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
with regard to the subject just touched neon he had to in-
form the house and the hon. member that estruotions had
been sent out to India to the effect that, emminently with
the fulfilment of the due calls of justice, the claims of
property in India and the rights of the people should be re-
spected. (Hear, beer.) He believed that la giving each
directions the government were taking • course mamma
with the feelings and wishes of the country. With respect
to the question of the hoe. member for Tavletock, whether
the government would be able to give a day to the bill ler the
abolition of church rates, he must say that he agreed with
the bon. member in thinking it • subject which had claims
an the attention of the house, and if be thought that by
giving a day for going into committee on the bill be should
aid in the settlement of the question be would gladly do so.
But he could not bring himself to believe that going into
ennunittes on that bill would lead to so desirable a result.
He quite believed that a majority of the house was in
favour of a settlement of this question, and he would
have Famed, instead of giving a day to go into
committee on the bill itself, to have asked leave
that her Majesty's government might bring in •
bill on the subject. (Cheers.) If he did not pledge himself
to take such a course, it was solely because of the pressure. of
public ludness. He thought, however, that the proposition
brought forward by Mr. Puller on Wednesday last was one
well worthy the attention of the house, and he should
be very glad if the principle of that proposition could be
brought to a fair discussion before them. He took that oppor-
tunity of apologising to the noble lord the member for the
West Riding for the short reply which he had given to the
noble lord's question. When he gave that reply he was not
aware that the Government of India Bill actually stood on
the orders of the day. He thought it bad been put off for a
considerable period. It was certainly his intention that It
should be. It certainly had been his wish before any other
measure had been Introduced on the subject to have had an
opportunity of vindicating the general policy of that bill.
The house would recollect that, when it was introduced, he
had cooled himself strictly to the statement of its plan, end
had offend no argument on the details of the measure. He
had thought that if the resolutions of which he bad given
notice were corned it would have been quite in his power to
have ohm eel his bill in acomdanoe with the desires which
might they have been expressed by the house • but on re-
flection ha hand that such • course would not be in sword-
saes with the due form of bueinese, and with the respect
which was des hoes him to the house. If the house should
think fit to egrets to the resolutions which he should propose,
it would be his duty to withdraw the present bill and tetra
duos another embodying those resolutions to which the house
might agree. He did not shrink through any feeling of
false pride from withdrawing his bill, in order to take the course
which he believed his duty to the house demanded of him,
but he had really the wish to have an opportunity of vim&
eating that measure which had been attacked :in many
quarters, and explaining the reasons which had induced the
government, not hastily and without thought but after due
consideration, to submit it to the cormideration of the house.
He should not therefore insist upon proceeding with the
India Bill as it appeared on the paper, but he shbuld on the
day named introduce the resolutions of which he had given
notice. (Cheers.)
Mr. BRIONT and Lord PALMERSTON REM together. There
were loud calla for the former, but the Speaker named
Lord PALMERSTON, who thought that the course
now proposed to be adopted by the government wee the only
course which in the position of the India Bill they could pro-
perly pursue. The government, he most mamma after due
consideration. had seen fit to introduce a bill on the subject
of India. They had, however, seen reason to alter that
view, and now intended to proceed in the first place by reso-
lutions. Having entered upon this plan the withdrawal of
the bill appeared the only proper step to take. When the
house in committee agreed to resolutions, the chairman,
together with other members who were named, was ordered
to prepare and bring in the bill. In the preparation of that
M U the resolutions in committee must serve for foundation.
Of course, while he admitted that the right bon. gentleman
had taken the only course properly open to him, he (Lad
Palmerston) reserved to himself the right of acting upon the
future of this question as he might think proper.
Mr. BRIGHT thought that the CORM which the right
bon. sentiment' (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) proposed
to take was the only one which could be taken in the awk-
ward position in which this matter stood. As he understood
it, the effect of appealing to the committee of the house was
in fact saying that the gnostic* was a difficult and peculiar
one, upon which the ministry would rather have the opinion
of the house than bring forward a bill en the direct reepon-
lability of the government, in which case, indeed, motions
might come tato play which would not tend to the making
of the bill the beat measure which was attainable on the
subject. There was no doubt but that the course which the
right hoe. gentleman bad taken had plaid the house more
clearly in the right track than they had yet been. Now
he wished the right hon. gentleman to take a lesson from
the manner in whiob he had placed himself somewhat in a
difficulty on the India question, sad apply that lesson to
the important subject which the house discussed on Wed-
, nesday last. (Rear, hear.) It was not to be
disputed that had they decided on Wednesday last
on the question of church rates, although the noble
lord the member for Tiverton sad the noble lord the
member for London would have gone with their respective
followers into the lobby with the government, the owonets
of those rata would have had a dour majority of above 70
members. He knew that the government was in favour of
the settlement of this question—every government bad been
in favour of a settlement of the question ever since he had
had a seat in that house. (Cheers and laughter.) The
right hon. gentleman gave them not an expectation, but he
held out a sort of shadowy hope that wee measure would
be brought in on the subject—brought in no doubt along
with the expected Reform Bill. (Cheers and laughter.)
The right lionoluable gentleman had also invited
them to consider the proposition which bad been merle
by an honourable member on that side of the home.
Now, he bettered that in the course be was taking the right
hon. gentleman was making for himself a pitfall. lie had a '
perfect right to oppose the bill ; he (Mr. Bright) did sot '
export him to vote with those who opposed the miserable
itup et. But the public had mode up their mind that the
bill should pee. (Cheers) It was stated by the prime
minister himself that, isot in that house, but in the other house
only, was it to be hoped that the hill would be thrown out.
If the government had the majority which the supporters of
the bill had, it would pass in a week ; but as it was privet'
member's measure it was shut up in Wednesdaye, and as
they rose at six o'clock on that day, they were thrown batik
from rime to time, eometimes fur weeks at a stretch. Bat
let the government not suppose that they would get rid of
the bill through mere delay. He did not make these
remelts out of hostility to the present ministry ; he did not
want, nor did those about him want, change* of Wuhan'.
The right hon. gentleman knew that he (Mr. Bright) lied
no hostile feeling against him. It was to be hoped that the
present ministry might remain in office as long se they
brought forward measures beneficial to the public at large.
But they were determined to have the church rate bill, and
whilst there wee so little business before the house it was de-
nted* that the government should give up a eight upon
which the matter might be fairly and taffy diessid. Of
what might become of the bill elsewhere he woe=
nothing. There were people who bad eseethee
of starter the course of the wave., but they led rolled
on nevertheless, and the tide of public opinion led est
steadily in favour of this MIL (Hear, hear.) He
bad always observed that reconsideration was a good thieg
for cabinet minieters. Hear, bear," and laughter.) He
hoped the right hen. 'asthenia would reminder his deter-
mination as this suliset. If be would do so there could be
no doubt but that he might give • day to the mater-
ial.. V. SMITH end that what had fallen from the right
hon. gentleman on the subject of the instructions to Lord

Canntiin
might whops lc unnoticed if attention were not
poinedly to hem. gentleman had in
afoot said that imetreatime had been sent out to Lard Can-
ning &Wing him to treat with des examideration
ax-
Min of the natives of India. He trusted that in send-
ing out those instructions opportunity had been taken
to express approval of the amuse which Lord Canning bad
pursued. That noblemen bad in fact never forgotten that
alter that rebellion was mulled the English would have to
govern 160,000,000 2114144111. Yet for doing this he bed
been assailed on all ides—not onl, u
innewspepee, but in
that hones. The hon. gen le the monibm for
Drafted& had himasH opts the discs of the vote of
thanks, failed in giving that support to Lord Canning which
• man pissed in so &MmE a position am he ought to have
oommaivied.
Sir J. PAKINOTON said that he bad only, Ns the house
would reoollec onedmened Lord Canning hypothetically.
(Laugher.)Th. feet was that at the Mlle the vote of thenft
was Proposide the petition from Calcutta, making serious
charges sr: aims Canning, was unenevend. Answers
had now given to that petitkin—enewen which he felt
bound to may win in many mast highly satiefeetoty.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY bard tear as the government
bill was to be withdrawn, the tall of the noble lord the mem-
ber for Tiverton would be withdraws also. He thought it
fairly open for ocembieralkin whether further legislation co
the sobjetot tovernment of India ought at the present
moment to proceed. (" Hem, hem," and He!)
The motion for the adjournment to Monday was then
Woof to.
WAYS AND MEANS.
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On the motion for going
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that In
enewering the grain& with relation to the inetroadons sent
=lto Lord Curing he had so intention of mark any
awns we ad Wok kri. Hie saner was eras* De-
rmot to reset the obsorretions of The her member who bad
addressed the house on the rsi, and more 'spookily to
show that es regarded the kingdom ad Oude the gorsenment
had thought that they ought to treat that country more like
• nation with whore we had been at war than as • great band
of mutineer. (Herr, bar.)
The house then went into committee.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved a
resolution author Bing the imposition of a penny stamp duty
upon cheques, which was put and carried amid the noise
occasioned by a ergo number of members leaving the honer
the fact being only made known by the cheers from the back
ndeisterial benches whin the time had pared for raising
say °ldeation.
The remind= was ordered to be reported, and the house
resumed.