The Express.
London, England, 1856-07-08 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 8. 1856.

with remarkable feeder Tbtre were some prelate •
sent eases. Then was the eon the hanwerabie end
learned rainbow fee Eseitakdles had ailed, of Mr (Mouth'.
Is that aloe the Oantaiola was taken of mime of the enewnia
law judges. Bens were in favour of a troneletioa, sad two
egaiest It. It rase to be decided by a few law fordo, and
they qa.shed the to/no:nos. He did sot see the boo. and
learned eagmher for Sof 4k in his plow, but be alro was
counsel for Mr I:Moored, cad beton the oommittee of the
Hewn of Lords had give it as his deliberant opinion that
it that cme ra4 hewn the cm. of as °enemy man, es °bov-
ine. the Jed/nest within hime been proton rod the other
woy. Vies.Charnllor Stuart had ow in evot.nm gives a
stns or °pies°. ; end has lamented fined B.r Wtdl.m Toilet
drier .4 that in his °minion the Noon of Lords impaired
stint jerisdietiori is &manner •hi.h would a the restored by
Irlisg ne thet mentos to per aside every political bias which
nimbi rent on the par of .he law torts, and by toe lay lords
(sillily to do whet he thought woe their duty —maistain the
• pisi... et the majority of the judges. Tr Sr w.s smother
ease—the an or the presbytermn sern.gee Treat nee
was argent in lielead, end waa brought to the Hoeg* at
L rd.. The Banish judges were celled in, sad they ens-
minutely cot curved with what bad been done by the Irish
jade. e. Bet it was by mere that.,. that that
,thogmest of
the Englith cad I.ish judges was guttained. There was
ea .quality of voices., and trisertherstly there was so
Judean.% it .11. Tree there was another ease—the
Bridgewater coot. 111. ne judges ware called In os
au appeal. Nile out et the eleven ,grind with
the L. rd Chao cellar, but th. votes of the eleven
at.cl the voice of the Lord Chancellor, the head of the law
sitting is his owe roust, was reversed by the spit. of rotes
ea thanerllore. The oven cafes were mere remarkable
still. This bill did tot profit's to tweet& any remedy for
the B,tch coos. His boo. friend presented that one of
the &etch jodges was to be elevated to a p.-raga for life,
and nes to be one of the depety speakers hist what would
the English end Irish suitor. my of one judge • ut of three
being judge who hod teas trained under • dit.rest law
aed a different system? But this tin did sot deal with
Semen Gotha i. the etehter masses, for what wee the mate
of the adeathistrotios of js.tiee with regard to Swateki
appeal.? It on keine that Lord Erthisg, is hie place is
the Race of L rain, when he end the Great 8.-1, declared
that ha keen at asset of the law of ficotlend s• he knew of
the low of }lento. Theis they we. Lord Troth. He did mot
believe that smote holiest tad upright man ever filled the
soot of junto. Hs had a quality more previous the lease-
. ire. be hod the .troog.et I..ve of jeans.; and be was not
athamed even to we her imperfect knowledge when pietist
we. a' stake. He est by sal emnpuleitte a whole oration
nose to hear &nett althea's, end it was ?needed of him
that when be Met 'myths to sit there was an eieweetary
question respects, Scotch entails, and he asked 1
to be allowed to take home with his an els-
, mestory bock on Borth law. (A Voice, •• Irish.")
, the argument wee much the ease, but It was a work
os equity, he having heels ell his life' e minim. lawyer.
Lord Trero heard these Scotch opptala for a whole wain.,
and then was his love of Janice t .c hen prooruneed a
single jade:vow. (Lee.hter ) Well, what aid the Dec
14 Faculty ? What was the bestial' of .It's epos t e admin.
ante •tioa of as in a the Scotch oppeals ? Is answer
1,003 he said, " The Lord Justice Geneve', the highest as.
ti o..ty, goys thee these app-ell merely net es theculatioa
wo k regard to the chine. the trihenal." And the Lord
Advocate and before the Lords' ettanitteir be had beard
*unites the lawny thearlan. Owes whit h w.• 14 not have been
snored by the yen•gest enamel I. the parlitmest house.
Awn tear D.ao ot Faeulty said cost '• wee. be waseensulted
, by 86.1 ch chests with talisman to the propriety of as op.
peel to the House et Lord., be did sot look Intim snits of
the cloth is the least, bat he specUlatedos the light in which
it would be regarded he Smitten lawyer.." He heilend it
was said that than was • Chancellor who for twenty pons
to Mr entire totiefoetith td the poi pie pronounced plai-
nest' enteistent with fettle . He kept hia own casual,
but et last its mode tranopmed is *lnch be did it. He always
retired to hie tenet before he gave his &ninon, and he
threw the die., and which.," r side got the highest aasber
cot the dol. He was ales it ashamed of tie length at which
he bad trespass. dus 11. time of the hone bet be would
observe that the inquoy had bees by toe Lord. same. He
thicieget that the reformatory bans was gediebently
tested by the haw li .1 than who wen to letoral
He thought that the laterve•tioa of a meted body was
moot sestet, and tbet an inquiry into the appellate jeric
dirt' mis the let resort would he a awful and 'intolerable
baggily ea their pert. A little time would be seed, bet
sh. session was drawing to a close, the lane.
Metres wand sot be eaerneed till they met
anis. and there would be amble time for fainter
ethaideration. Ho bad mot only resisted the measure bet
he bed presumed, sot o• his ewe authority net ea the
esthoelty of than who were .611 quid God, to sketch as lf-
ptovameat whorl' the Leeds might wok- within themselv. a,
bet still be raid if leginatios mete meaner, let them Minn
de weeo. and Ist them intenally invis•tig how a mantel
sad eatiefeethey tribute' should be inotitu.td. He ehoeld
set have the eke blest hentatios is voting 'salad the woad
✓eadied of the hill.

Mr. ROUNDELL PALMER mid, if the bill permed
as it .tood, be believed it would be a miserable failure,
and he supported the erred reading only on the
prlseqile that It r t est with the object of forming Is
the H sae el Lords a tribunal ensepetent and eflideet for
en
sit mots mon of appeal. H. was not if the Bomber of
term who thought the edoitre of two judges, wilm
of 6 0001., salleient ; bat these wet. p Mt. which might
well be moossidered ; cis the principle that the bill
proposed to maintain the juthdictioa of the Home of Lords,
he w..uld enpport the • coed re.dine.
Mr. COLLIER admitted that the mestere, se it stood,
was =petite, ; but it. t Nieman bad nose of theta agreed
se to whet ought to be d.in., or serrated • remedy for the
existing sten of limp. That being the mete of the oppo-
sition to the measure, he 1 Kilted at tee bin and Nand it a
t rainiest eseemire, nine writ some way to meet the
evil with wenn it proposed to deal. The meta grievance
ie tb fr.mot @yet*. of tee Hoes. of L 'rds was, teat there
wire no meter attendants of thou, who werethe judges.
rho bill proposed ,o appoint three perm judges, who
were always to attend the sittings of the hone, sod who
teem to tine • tribseal, the sittings of which would be
en-setessim is duration with thmeof the marts from skids
•he mune Mitre it cause. If the espgestores made by the
Bolinger General before the vesmi,ve of ,h. Halm of
Lords had boos atteaded to, he believed they ernid hem •
met all the esigenies of the owe, sod if noose else did so be
(Hr. Mend fa committee endeavour to adopt the
bill to those suggeetin 5. Hs should support the emend
famine,.
Mr. J. 0. PHILLIMORE objected 'o an argentin which
had been used is favour of matleaing the appellatejerie-
diction of the Hoeseller:la, that it **obtain legislative j
sod judicial fellatio'', weigh he declared to to se uoassily
lid oppo ed to every print. pe of a tree cotistiteti.4. He
urged that the jeditiel facetious of the Home of Lords were
• nutrition.
L rte J. RUSSELL enefened be should have wished to*
ham hosed iron the Solicitor-dental tome mom positive
femme for met pottime this bill man he lied yin heard urged
in its behalf. It appeared to hi. that what two neat au-
thorities had spokes is femur of Use 101.1, bad rather lauded
to 11•41111.0 the doubts of those who were ipeotied to it.
His leaned ?Amid the Attorael-Guierel had told the home
that the bid wee mot what goverannet embed. The
• gentlemas said that what he should bays desired would
be a bill ineetrag ea applies,. tribunal quite todepeedeat of
the Hoes. of Lords; and he misted oat bow muck better
such • tribunal would be toss tt at whin" was dented by
the present bill. He did sot state to tee hoses aey remove
mast et sash a measure, eserpt that the Hoem of Lords were
determined to go egsins. moon, to overbear all modem of
justice sad espedistery, end to -teed by their appelliwe jun.-
diction, however nisstilevoesly it alibi work for the snotty.
(Cheers) Now he (Lord J. Romeo) mast c oleos Mat that
gam btu • eery bed opinion of the House of L reds; acid he
thought It would give the mantry a very bad opielos of the
House of Connotes if they won told that coe-
linieillt • women to be • bad me, and having
lied it retionmended to them sea bed wenn— (isughter)—
the home h d name it al It wee. (Hear. bele ) Then, the
hon. and lensed pealensa tee member for Plymeeth 5.1 d,
that selese mom &inane eateries were mime, sad unless
there were more thee tee de Sty speakers app doted to
mein the House of L rde la its judicial funetioss, the mea-
sure weal prove • 'miserable Mins But the bill did sot
promos to gim either lazier salutes or to aerobia a larger
staff this that which tee Nereid mediums depreciated as
negation. (Hear, ee it ) The learned penmen might
wish to sinned its bill in committer, but tl sm. tided it
wield sot be the mamma of the gov.r•seent ; am, Weed,
did be Imow ohne. r the power...seat would pot resist them
alterattoss. (Hear, bear) Bat teen ,hay were told t at
this was a bargain—the* the two sides of the ff.use of
Lords bed speed to die hill, sod that the Hoare of Com-
mons had co hie, to eo but to secede to it. He (the selale
lord) nest own that tbat a:gement did cot Winne him la
the least to sagaisece se humbly In the bill. (Hear, hear.)
Oa the e tottery, it gyve him tone asspictiom ro told the
the hill had nee so cossetted. (Cheer..) He out souffle
that efts the learned authorities who had bees quoted be•
fore the committee, he had considerable doubt sh-rho •
reseed, of this kind was alisolutely required. (Hen) He
was told tea. the House of Lord. was •eable to Ewen It.
judicial tentless benne the Lord Chseeelio• very fre-
quently set etime, bedlam the 'misdeaw of law lords was
see lisle, sad bemuse they did sot appear la judicial'
ecotone. Now with ',Raid to • par of them •11- ulnae.
they hid misted is times whoa the totuvry wee west
sodded with the Hoses of Lords is an eppellstej
tribmeal, and who. they could beset of each manse
as Lord Heinrich', Lord Minefield, Lord Eldon, Lord
Cotten's., Lord Lyndharet. aid Lord Bremerton,. (Hem,
hew) Proem the time of Lord lintwicke, fliOesevre, s
parpeteel sires, of slab men—esea of peat bita.ci, a
very powerful endernandleg and with vast treeroe.. of
smelted legal knowledge—hid presided in the Hoine of
Lord.. (Hem, hem.) He (Lord I Russel) was dhreid
thereto, to think that if such had been the rase, they were
eadesetterieg to donee a permanent remedy fa • tem-
porary evil, that the dinginessw which were eotaplaised
of would I. the seam of two or these years per away, sad
they would ham such the mane state of things as they
had had Mites. (mom • He (lb. allele lord) was die.
posed to agree whit dti boacretable gentlerman who
bad spikes log, that is the days of Charles 11.
the jelleitil fluisliewe of the Hewn et Lords were a
temmaties; bet suits bow rich tine bad paned sloes
the histsaiss of Obsefes IL's reign, be must take thiap es
they were:. owl asks be was Neon to loot fee • reseed
he mieldisiNfeeed ho misled with the existing
mese if the ediodlehi teased (Hew.) With retard to
rho Lii4Chweeiler tiIY4 ales", it ta to Wm that
then wee greet hese to lb. view takes several viewless.
—by, be believed, Lord Jetties Clerk, lealleed•
as/
by %a Mater et the 11Ale—eamely, aid a very able me

who would gin hi fell enmities to awe, ens if it war!
I.ot a ease with whkh hs was =Nit aosureent, was likely to
ein • bettor audios thee a 'ribose' composed of ulterior
men, though they mitht be better acqualated with tee
um lee matter is hand. He thosght the very ketones
• gaud by that right hen. pentium,. (Mr. Navin) I
war rather proof of the truth of that observ.tioa.
1 he right hon. gentleman said that Lord Truro,
when LUIGI 10 the Hone. of Lord., was so ignorant wore
restrict to • Particular act of parliameat who h boo been
referred to (the Irish Registration Aet), 'bit be was obleged
to .4 for a text book '0 teke hose with him to learn, a. it
w. r., 'he very A B C of the law bearing on the case. Yet
the rieht hon. gestlvesse said that when the matter cone
at Le decision L rd Truro delivered • most tensional. and
satisfactory judgment. (Hear' bear.) Well, then, I that
• a. the eau, dois of the highest minds that heaped to
its pony which happened to be In power was placed at the
teas of the Hume of Lords, he was idclfued t tidbit that
the appellate jurisdiction was not so utter • fellers WI sums
I d gentlemen at the present day seemed to Imagine.
(Hear, hear.) May of the things for welch t e Lord
Creme-a it and many ex Chancellor. had been blamed were
mere =meters of arrangement, which a little lOrto core
end • little more enact on the part of the Leered
lords mipht easily rectify. Thus, with mood to a cgs • like
th 4.1 • Walt they had been told where two learned lords de-
livered elaborate jedgmeate, cad -bens • third said het had
re•seidered the ease, Mat not being aware that it was
semis on that day, be was not prepared to glee hie rasa' ;
in such • ease it would ably ban ham more nay • fel to
the public, lad more dearest to the persons whose interests
were to be adjadiested at me, if the day fad lova named.
(H ar, hoer.) Then a great deed of fault had been tend
with respect to some detests In the mar net of attain law
hod* 'thee tees wire t•ld thee Lord Bt. Leotards lo de-
boning Judgment had slapped kin had upon the tab's ; hat
were they going to alter Ine whole Jewish:dos of tot cope-
tie teases a Inroad lord slapped hi, band upon Its table ?
(Laegriter and cheers.) He (Lord J. Russell) thosolt. 'bees
▪ d nastier matters might be remedied by the law lards
themselves. They might agree to sit together, to wear a
jodleiel outs.., sod, what was far more mental, to
diminish the saran to so tors by dispeasiss with the
plated papen and preparatory proceeding. which now took
place. (Hear, hear.) Tepee were a vestige of the time
when the lay forde gave their opinion, end when they email
to the home utterly acooquainted with the we. Titre*
forms nod puns were now c•Olim, sod they fourth•
of the expense might be saved. (Hear, hear.) There .as
another matter which bad occupied the attention or Lied
C ttetibam—nosely,that • Judicial COMM ttee of the Hose
of L rds should sit durieg the ruses, and that at the. l sa-
le, of the nest MOWS they should report the dais ono et
which they bed arrived on the sewers' cases which had occu-
pied their an/slim That plan would at once remedy •
great part of the evils eotiplained of. It had been
amplained very justly that duneg two or tern
months which mete moot useful for judiehil pe-
yote. the HOW. et Lords did not sit, but that very areal
its eyepiece. might at oleos be remedied wiibout hung
recourse to the bill before the h sae. (Hear, hear.) Reel,
suppenog that he (Lord J. Russell) was dies se d to yield to
the learned authorities who had been getout, end to admit
that • new tribunal mut he formed, ties us prop end by
the bill would be far worse than that which now existed.
(Chun.) The Attorney-Gaeta bad spoken of the mi.
chief and impropriety of the Led Chancellor Godes elite
in the House of Lords and overruling decisions of the owe-
riot courts at Weetsioster or of the Lords Jettlees. But
supposing the bill pared, toe Lord Coacelli r would sir in
the House of Lords with two pupas with the rank aril
saluy of puisn judges; sod those jodgee might n rrrrr le the
superior courts, sad the Lord Cheneellor not the begat'.
lie (the noble I .ro) wedd well asceive the advantages tf •
court such a. that proposed by the bon. and I. weed h. nth,.
nun (13ir F. Helly)—• court assisting of the Lord Chan-
cellor ass four other jingo, resolving 6.0001. or 7 0001.
a pima The place being this made we worth. the slOhl•
bon of men learned in the law, ha could ieederstend such •
tribunal being • better one than the Hones of Lords ; sad
it a ebauge must be made, he (the nob,. lord) should be in
favour of that plea. (Hear, hear.) Bet either leant the
tribune', as it was, or let the remedy he • solicietit
cos. (Loud chore.) He quite west slag with the
boo. gentleman the member for tisffolk ; but the hill let
them neither the Home of Lords sitting la committee nor
gave them • court of the ablest men in the profession. It
was a sort of hybrid which partook of both but which did
sot satiely any of the conditions which the ountry desired
(Loud cheers.) The Attoraey-Geonal said 'he other house
were sextons to manila their appellate jurisdiction; hut
wnat were they seise to retain ? Th. y all knew that 80
71111171 ego the lay I Ma united in sppeals. They were
present darns the great Douala' case, which tatted
twelve daft. Bad they gave their votes upon it le-
dead, he (Lard el. Russell) happened the other 4.,
to enable ups* a apace of the Duke of Chanel.)
In which he claimed the merit of having atteaded th • log I
as well as toe political business of the hoes'. At that time,
whether he House of Lords was a good tribunal I r not, its
judicial shaman was a reality. (lie ar, hear) The
Hones °fiords, wham ;sodded over by sub men se Lord
Camden sae Lord Maaefield, could cot be said to be
sit t-
getber uninstructed is the law. 8. matters went on till
the time of Lord Hideo, when the plea was changed. Two
lay Iron attended day by day to up the quorums ; but
when it was observed that two alesided at the beginning,
two others in the middle, and two more at the end of • cue,
Ready could pretead to •ay that no ray Inds any longer
ezereind any jurisdiction; sad it was obvioue that the
house for judicial beause anent only tee Lord Chaerellor
and the law lord'. Having gone thus far, they w. re
pressed to go a step farther, and leave the lay lords out
altogether. They were told that the hones couneted only
of the Chancellor, the ea-Cbauoellor, and two other peeves
who were not, as of old, to be jades because they we re
peers, but they went to be peers humus they were jag.,
(Laughter.) leach a propeeal utirely altered the nature of
the tribute'. (Rear, hear.) The Lard Chaseellor and the
two Lords Justices already sat as an 'wallets curt Is
one room. The Lord Chancellor was Wait ia another ro-a▪
two judges called deputy speakers. and Wane that
room happened to be the pine where the peen met in the
evening to Macao politisel subjects. the j wen told they were
moistening the !appellate juriuktion of the Hones of
Lords. (Cheers.) He (Lord J. Ressell)•ailld only Pay, be
h Ted the these would not give ere sanction to such a sham, 1
• (Lend cheery.) Indeed, if the House of Lords hat tot been
so latent on the bargain of which the bill was the result,
they must dummies have bees salaamed to peewee soc a
whew. (Cheers.) There was soother portion of this soh-
jai which he (the noble lord) was sorry to touch'!
ote at all, bet which it was impossible to prise over, beceuse
the H dam of Lords had seat down a bill io which that sob
jut was brosehed—he meat the onetime of peers for life.
(Hear, bear.) That was • very grave question, and he very
mesh regretted bolt tee costae whieb the goeeroenent—
(ooseereative cheers)—bon. gentlemen should really loco •
memest—(a laepts)—be regretted the course which both
the government and the House of Lords bed taken
The leaned judge might have been made a poor
is the ordinary muser, aid he would hen w •
the respect of every body in that espeeity. He (Lord
John Russell) was sorry the governmect eltinld so sonecea-
eadly h vs tried the quatios, and he was very sane, a en,
thot the Lids should have aught at it as • matter for din
puts. (Hear, hoar.) He (the sone 1 rd) did not think,
nitwithstandieg the decamp of the Howe of Lords, they
read seen the end of this genic,. (Hest, hur ) They
knew very lull that early u the re go of Charles 11. there
was • decision of tbeHoose of Lore—mural he believed—
sad a good many neentioas were come to, bet the house
had o rrrrr beiess lose Mace given up its oriole.'
jurisdiction. They haw, also, the decision o f
its Bout of Commove, that Mr. Wilkes had
an right to a out; sad note ithetsedieg se
immense majority of 'he freeholders of bliddleux, they
persisted in seating the gentlemen who had • arenrity of
votes. Many years after that, h mover, the rsoolation of
the house wersuplaged from the votes • sod the precedent
wee admitted to be out that sob sly would sow dram of
foll-wiag. (Hear, beer.) He trusted, therefore, that, after
som• even, the donates of the How of Ledo he the ease of
Lord iteneleydate would also be no-laded. (Cheep)) 'the
Hooey of L. refs had some to • reyeleeka es to the debt of •
Pc nth lord to sit by virtue of as Stalin peerage, bet sissy
or s-venty years afterwards that iteeisien was naiad and
a peer admitted to take his seat who had co better
title than the soble lord who hod been es•
@laded. He (Lord J Handl) ventured to think
'tat elter the gluiest Uterine bid dawn by Lord Coke sod
other teat •ritere, the prerogative of the Ci wen did sot
snail of a doolo. He regretted teat the Howe of Lords
did sot hear toured is support of Lord Weeeleedele's
claim ; and he owned be felt some surproe that the learned
A•torney General did eat mower at took Inrdebips' bar to
erase the ease on behalf of the Crows. The epos Cs he l
been raised in the other hose whether ti's hilt took away,
lin tut or eirtemeenad the royal prerogative and • pro.
penal ensued' to Wart word, which would have mad. that
clear. Their Wallies petuaed, however, to admit thou
words, and the hew was now salted to script the bill
with Its ambiguous ohnsfoologt, aid to sake se set
of prlisenest jolt for the soovniiirore of the
two patio in the House of Lis'. (Star, hear.)
Pantos might well enteral* different opinions as to the
prerogative of the avows in creating life peerages, sad is
this nes et his owa *pintos might possibly not epee is sll
rupee. with that of hi 'the hos. hind the member for
Carlisle; but whatever might he the view taken upon the
obi! et, he thought that they would Co. tor la this, that •
more unit he might shiest say a more bedfast mode it
ashes with the peereptive of Use crew* than we, Ike.
Vriby tido bill hod never hoes saggested. (Hear.)
would very shortly hate his awn opiates epos this
ocelot. His opiates wee, that there were so may swim.
ritiefe in favour of the nosiest prerogative, and it had bees
stated ever cad over spa, by the highest authorities, that
peerseree are formerly created wittiest say hood of limit,
end amour °Hun, without the limitation of life, that there
would be very little dostt Oat the prerogative existed ; but
ao It had not been esereteed kw so long a period,
sad nevfr aeries the geed USN of the emeatintioa—or
Mesa the reveled's—ft would he well as the boo. and
boned somber fee Plymouth had urn d to lay down by
sot of parliament theenot limit to which the prerogative
eh 'old go. (Hear, best) Tint itself woad be • matter of
teritne••••rfne quite *soma gap • bal. (Rees.) But if
they hod peen for iife--sobiell would he an advantage—
they should aft, he thmegllt, smallse them to lawyers sad
judges, bet admirals awl gessists bass services were da
'soviet of thesporsbatiotaisi almiraties of dub tossers,
bet whisk was act at the mate time se ballast se the in-
vises of Mks' se of Iltellisirtam, might well be railed al
the Hens of Leeds as peen fee lih. (Hese. hear.)
had If feel life pasts vas liaised to a NMI'
somber they would net be banana, soy anomaly Imo
tit seastltilise. stabs that vs had vow sew 00 sr 70 posts

' 'rag in the Home of Lords, smote( whom. as the Ned
peers, were elected for life, and others,. as tbe Scioteh peers, I
only for the parliament ; and besides thee, there were the
Whops, who were also pears foe lite. Ar other set of life
per, might, he thought, be crested selected boot men who
had attain, d great erautince at tbe her, in the emol and
troftwions, or as statesmen, and such so addition to
the Home of Lords would tor only mem i.. 11 no diminution
of ilt- dimity and ueefuloess of that home, but would, be
believed, mat rislly contribute to its strength, and M in
perfect aim rdanee with tbe spirit of iht (Hear,
hear) He m pht he told that them was no mow, toe
tium ae. an.e—no cep ii.y, at tai moment.., ry bk. ly—
but had been said with r•g•rd to the navel and rntbiery
prof... ors, and likewise with regard to the la-, that a.
thus were so long.r those opportunities fir acquirieg
large fortunes In those prifteeitice which related
formerly, by •hich
of
whose services entitled !him
to the dignity tb• peerage were mat 1 d to
wpm the title, they would Mature to meept hereditary
teereope, and that it would be well, thee. lore, to confer on
stab bermes ble peerages only. (Hear.) But to t.ke
Elm b. ionic, to the law and give lite perms* to teem,
and them ooly, would be to place them to position•—he
would not say degrading to them, but • p an on which •
many men at the bar would not like to rinlo.
hear.) The last ohjection he bad to the bill wee, thet it
had a tendency to offer a tem. Utica to the , Mete
judges which they might not to thr-w in their
way. It might be said, whenever they ere te I
new jodeelt p. they held out tenipts.ions t) the judges
That eras tree in a getout seine, but in a petrel sense
only. It seldom happened 'hit the puisne judges received
promoti-a ; they wets tartly raised to the toad of tntir •
respective court., whatever changes were made—therefore
there was preetkally ao temptettos In that case ; but by
th.a bill it was especially to the palms Ind. es ti•.l the
temptation was het.* out. They were t•hd that If they
accepted the t fan of ledge* of appeal in the H. an. of L via
tuny would have much e.sier work than in the courts; tee y
would only be employed • portion hutted of the wit. 1 o' the
year, and that without an. dimlanti.o of eatery_ Thu would
be a enmiderable temptation, and would, he thought,r.t.d to
the deterioration of the comiatution of the c Vet•. I was
• great m. nt now that our ouiene judges 1 d tor co Bing
b• y nod their retiring salaries when the period fir veto. meet
came Upon the wbele, he mold see no tom die', or p.o
log urger tot emelt, for any grew reform of the a-p 1.1..te
juriedicti• aut the House of L rd.. (H. ar ) He b Ted
the WON .•f Lords thenteelv-e might . ffect such changes cc
would make that tribunal vrfeely .atiofactol ; but it there
was to be chai.g., le t them h.ve nab somas eh d take
Pe tribune' out of tbe House of Lnrds and ome a. a 'et-
hanol o: in itself, and er.mp• se d. n. t
the puttee judger, bat of the most eminent men
on the judicial bench. (Hear.) If _it was nee aaaaa y
let them ap,toint a Scotch judge as • member of the apt.ella-
tie. dy —though he did noteousid.rth t any such ee.
metee—(hesr, beet)—but at all events let them make the
tribunal complete—let thren provide • Date,ly for the
defects which cued ; and ab n.. 11, in • bbl tor amending
the ems lag tribunal, let m not ictr due. an that and
far roarer and more perilous subject, n.r pt to tether
and ea b the prerogative of the crown in a way t at might
be mischitme• to that prerogative, and dangerous to the
country at large. It might be said, why not thud ti e bill to
'select cmcnittee ; bet to do that tow to •h. month of
July, w old be to thy w it over for the preset.' ststhli ;
and ea he t referred to deal with It lan direct m , he
ahould, it the question came tea vote, give his mitt agates'
the locoed readiatr.

The SOLICI FOR-GENERAL experienced ; aria sod re
sist at the tons in which the question had been nealt .I.h
by the right hos. baronet sad toe notoe lord. The criticism'
of the right bor. baronet we,. sot altogether on. a;ected ;
but he tautened from the noble lord he .h lard have sae
petted much .sander and more constoutionol do trine.
et Hear," and a laugh.) There could not be • greater hire
torbial mistake than to soy that tke judicial authority of
tee Home rf L role was • mere amempiims. Toe How
f L Win Sad always bad jurteditrion to peas jr grove% to
cases of equity, and had bees unquestionably the tribenel
in the lam r.eurt upon all questions of law corned op from
m•c moon law a ems. After the jurisdiction Aimee. wit.
[lOO it was true • difilculty was tilt as to the ultimate 'peel
late tribunal hose the decieloos of the Lord Chancellor, bet
I. 168.5 it was settled that the House of Lords woe the de•
pcmitoty of he appellate power, and he^ the right to em-
et., it, and that right bad been conceded to them ever
once. He hoped, tberetore he might cell upon the Homo
of
Commons to address itself to the bill with an acaooem
demist of the unq•erionable right of the Home
of Lords, and with the conviction that it would
be doing something nvolutionary if it iatertered
with that right, and remembering.' that the best e curt, they
eeeld have f ir their own privileges was to respect the pet •
'degas of the other breaches ot the state. (blear, bear.)
Tate judicial pier, of the House of Lords had been eat re
Moe f may year., and had always e -mounded respite.,
hut there were objeetioas to tbecoestitution of the trioutiaL
Otte objection wag that the c -art, beiog dependent upon Cho
presence of the Lord Chancellor, seceeserily mow when that
Witte nary had duties to perform elsewhere. Then, the
spp als to rte Hoare of Lords ar are upon every v riety of
sonjor, and from every court of joriedierioo, end it was
dounttul how far any Lord Chancellor could be propel,
trust. dto pronounce a 'emende upon qui stioes reform• g tie
the Innen n of coatis, and upon • state of law f wroth he
bad had no exerrienee, and whine judge. at mom, like the
Awe of the Idedes and Penes', remain in f re unites
altered by sped .1 act of ; r rliament. Tee Court- of Queen's
Bench,
.0 mown Flee, and Exchequer had cent four pang. *
sitting to hence, and in all plo rah. y ot voirea was rec goned
se the haling coarseteristir. Now it was prior me to am pt
the same rale with regard to the court of apiellate juriedice
ties. When Lo'd Lyndhuret, Lord Bmeghato. Lod
Truro sod Lori Campbell eat togother is tbe Home
Lordsof to hoer a.,peale, there was no fete but
teat the decis on wool/ be alway. satiti•••:tory.
But eirconostances had altered, and now the at •eodance of
more than one or two peers to hear aptcrels could not he ob
tabled. Toil eras miser nvenience that had been ezperienosd
Moo io former times. Lord Elde n felt ill, in. oi..euteacet,
and •iabea to have Lend Red•wiale stairs with him; and
Lord Hard sick. bad Lord Maidstone to amir him in hear's,
appeals. But the evil led
daring the last ys.r, end the feeling prevailed very
genteelly that the Hons. of Lords failed to give satis-
faction as the great omit of apt elide joriedictori. The
necoosity of same thug. was °beide,. But were they
en sit- r tne system by pulling down the eationtity of the
Route of Lortite or were they t rather to endeavour to
provide o remedy for the defect which had been pointed
Set Deputy 8, eskers had been appoioted in tormer time.,
sad it sae now only asked to make that perpetual which
formerly was only resorted to occasionally. The noble rd
eulogised the time whoa the lay lords were invited to take
Pert in the jadielal deiiberatione—(hear, hear)—and hi.
h... and !earned friend ebe.red the remark; but ea. h a
bea.md learned friend aware of the scandal thet hat peae•
tk• I ? Did the noble lord to member reading that
stria time of which he spoke theee who were parties la
,appeal cites who bad hoodoos"e wives sea desolater'
used to send them to present petitions to the parr', in coder
SO enlist heir favour and obtain • favoureile judgmeot
Thei adieialGicamiitee of the Councilwomen; ost d to the seed
ohjiett in es the Hoes. of Lords; it was coo p i• .4 ot judges
gathered from the utter courts. For the last multi or mai
days the limed c tart in Chancery had been this• up becalms
the judge Were engaged in the Comedies of Privy Council,
By transferring tit that body the aptellate jurielivion of the
Hotta et L rile, the evil would only he alumni wed. They
"mold he pullieg down the ancient trihunel to tanner of •
thing of ymterday ; and it would then he n. oneary to treats
a bombe. of additioral things. Surely it wee bitter to ie.
move thin to dest•oy—to restore than to pull does. (Heim
hear) He hoped that argument wosid he, due weight
with the touts. He had been surprood to hear this boll'
desmibed sea miserable measure. If objection were taken
to any of the details, se the basis of the tete
banal, or the remuneration of rte judges, be was
°pea to coneider those points is committee In he. Anibal
to &neck the bill, Sir J. Graham bed f ,gotten that so can
could be appiioted depaty speaker unless be hot presided
noes, court ; to that it was tropmehoe •1 a. say barrister
in that house could he .ppoloted. (Hear, hear.) For him-
self, he elsould be pled toss* the ametstution of the tribunal
enlarged, so as to have the same number of judges se is
e -moon I.w solute Bat thet root might 'At p• rly be
distuvied to committee. At to the question of prerogative
eel ich had ne real roontaim wish this hi 1, he tr ought
much mulattos existed in the hoes N • one had ever
quertioned the right of the crow. to emus peers for life;
ih. only doubt wog whither they were entitled to seats
he the House of Lords. Tbarotite the dictum of Lord
Coke's, qua tad by tr. noble iird (Regal ) did not apply.
It was the undoubted privilege if the House of
L ids itseif t t det. lamina .11 ;one a,,, peer was
**titled to take h s ee•t in thet douse. This
hilt, though It might undoubtedly l• improved—(h.4r, 1
Year)—only put a limitation on the tree n a v • t the I
Crowe a• tar se regarded the creation of I f. peers far this
particular of ject But had not the prerogative already bele
limited in the case of the Seven peer. ? Aed we, it so en-
tetordinsry t at there seould bee similar limit-lion in a
bill of this kind ? The ROM. of Lords were the proper
esposeues • f their own rights is a sass if this kiwi; sod
yet the House ot Canteens was uviied t • take upon
to pronounce that tte Hose of Lords was in the
Hoer) This would be • most rash oat. Was that beven
a inanition toes, that the Holt • of Lords wse usquestios-
ably wroug, that those who took the vri.ltet Vied of the
terrOlt&tiVa were unquestionably right, and that a ste,,sts
which provided a remedy for • great and eeknoviedged
evil ought on that r recount to b. rejected t (Hi ao, 1 elm)
It should be remembered that b.fore this hill could
bee one law, it must receive the anent .4 the Crows itself.
Why should the House of Commove declare itself against
that Maw of the ps emotive in which toth the other estate.
of the realm commend? He he peal the house would not
signalise the lot dsys tel its sitting by taking such an iojae
&eons mum. It was the almost unanimous opinion oft e
Istelon practising riefore the House of Lords that this mon,
our• elf welded the only mere of rendertag that tribiattal
eldest and satisfactory. No other rational scheme had
boot brought forward In opposition to this bill. (Hear.)
The house then divided—
For the teemed reading l9l

Aghast it 142-49
Mr. ROEBUCK skid wbether the boo. eattabeir meant
to !oriels froward tee wales which steed In his name ea 'he
pion. os fining 100 oneipitter,
Mr. RAISES CI7ItRIF.—I do.
The bill was %bee reed a monad time, sad ordered to be
ematitted ee Troarrdsy mast.
ENCUMBERED ESTATES BILL.

n• beim wont hoe asamittoo oa tido NC
Chugs 1 and 2 wen agreed to.
Oa clam 3,

Mr. WHITESIDE proposed to add a clause providing
that th•enwmisswaire be only tgo instead of three atter a
certain date.
Ater 100111 distas*inn,
The comoi•tee dimen—
For the clause 4B
Aaaii.at B3--35
Thselause ws. areordiagis ir.j a Ca.
Mr. WHITESIDE says not as be would Dose the ■r
Ben 'trans on the taint rescbaa.
Toe house it., T. 01.111“..
CONSOLIDATED FUND APPROPRIATION BILL.
On the moo. f M.. J. Witnon. V. gives to
bring in 'his b 11. when, as itt.w.suis ly preceding the ter.
mineti•,o or the se.aon, was has e. with els. etc
The boas. a• j urerO at .. quieter pest t•o.

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