The Express.
London, England, 1858-02-15 00:00:00

ROYAL BRITISH BANK.

SECOND DAY.

The trial of this important case was resumed at ten o'clock
thin morning, at which hour Lord Campbell, the Lord Chief
Justice of the Queen's Bench, sabred the court.
The court was less crowded than on Saturday, but never-
theless well filled.

Owing to the excellent area of the undee-ebente
every acoommodation wee ado/tied to the counsel, solicitors,
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and others whose attendance was aeoessaz7.

Mr. D. Seymour, counsel for Mr. Cameron, said a short
time ago the prosecution furnished that gentleman with o
general abstract, showing the amount of his indebtedness to
the 'ma, and he wished now to apply for particulars as to
the balance.

Lord Campbell said the learned counsel had better apply is
the first instance to Sir F. Thesiger, who he was Bare would
be disposed to do all that was neceesary.
Mr. Atherton said those who acted for Mr. Cameron, es
well as Mr. Cameron himself, bad, for the lest two month.,
had full and free acmes to all the books of the bank.

Lord Campbell—lt may not be unreasonable to ask for the
genera result of the account.

- Sir F. Thesiger, who here entered the court, expressed his
willingness to accede to his lordship's suggestion.
Lord Campbell, addressing the jury, pointed out to them
the expediency of their taking full notes of the evidence as it
proceeded, °barring that it consisted of redone details whichit
would be very difficult to carry in the mind without the assist-
ance of a written memorandum. There were several gentleman
ow their trial, and the fury had to consider how far the evi-
dence applied to all or either of them, because they would be
asked by-and-by whether the charge was proved, and how
far all,or say,or which of them were proved to be involved in
that charge, and he thought it would be hardly eatidactory
sinless they took note. of the evidence.

The names of the jury having been called over,
The foreman mid he had been :equated_
_by his Mather
jurymen to make an application to their **hips with re-
gard to their remunerate:in. They would no doubt be do-
mined there several days at very treat inocamdenos to
themselves, and he whaled to exert= whether they could.
if counsel were willing, Mine a guinea a day for *de
•
services.

Lord Campbell—l regret exaedingly the aserifice you MD
obliged to make for the public good, but I have no pew
whatever to award higher compeniallon to you than the imp
n one which the law provides. (One guinea is the
ioirrglven to a specialswinan for trying a cue, how-
ever many days it may extmd over.)
The foreman—Perhaps some arrangement may be made on
each side. (A laugh.) We thought, perhaps, your lordship
would permit some arrangement on the subject.
Lord Campbell—l cannot interfere with regard to the com-
pensation to be given to a jury for their attendance.
The foreman—Perhaps Sir F. Theaiger will say some-
thing.
thr F. Theidger—lt is rather hard upon me to hale to say
anything on the aubject. I have ao authority to assent to
anLordarrangenient.
Campbell—l really must say there le no authority en
either side to interfere.

Sir F. Thes think it undesirable at present to pro-
nounce any o on the matter.
Lord Cam , gentlemen, yon are acting for
the public good, and I am slue will not grudge your time and
labour.

iir:Paddieon, who wee examined on Saturday, waa again
pat In the box, in order that hie examination in chief might
be °cranied.

Lcsaampbell raid It would be for the convenience of the
jury, and the colonel for the defendants, if the cooed Intim
pmeenutton would shortly state the nature of any new bud
of evidence before the Entered upon it.
Sir Frederick Th said they now proposed to go kW
t history of the W mines, end to carry it to its eve-
alumina.

fir. Paddison (examined by Kr. Atherton)—Mr. Hew
Seeks bad transecticem with the bank in_ 1866. He was en-
gaged in the trim trade, carrying on his business in Mame-
. There was a Londonfirm, named Dummeler sital
Caft,hirsirhich had transactions with Mr. Shales. A milk
had been td by the bank to Soaks in Mend, 1860, for
3,0001. The limit was imposed in order that there might be
a supposed surplus in the security itself ; so that Damodar
and Swift might be liable to the bank for any bills bearing the
name of either of them. I hold in my hand a deed of
the 16th of August, 1860. It is a mortgage executed by
Scales and Dummeler, in favour of the bank. It is a mid t.
gage of Scales' interest in Hyatt's Colliery, in Staffordshire,
and also of his interest in a second mortgage for 2,0004
secured on certain property in Liverpool and the neigh-
bourhood. The first mortgage en the Liverpool property vas
for 6,0001. The• mortgage of the 16th of August mates dm
nature ot Scales' interest in Hyatt's Colliery in Stelloralat,
He had obtained a lam of Hyatt's Colliery, whisk breed
in this deed. It is doted the 6th of August, 1860, awl is fir
21 yeaea, at a surface rent of MI. ; and for the mines of coal
end iron an annual rent of 360!. for the first 15 • end
for the next 16 years following 2631., end afterwards a pepper'
corn. The aggregate amount of purchase money le2le
in not was 6,6681. In September, 1860, a farther
lion was made by fir. Scales for an 'demos of grin
It was granted on the 7th of that month, the imee
being embodied in an agreement executed on that
day. (The deed was here read.) It use to the effect that
Sadie had vplisd, to the bank for the loan of 3,0001. on =-
tabs secmiYsi stated. The securities were an emignerot
of a mat = for 4,0001. up=
_Oant and ithatia
Colliery and Iron Wmb, neer
Sitarogigrei mccadly, ahem, on Scales' Womb in
at Emden Ferry, Garth, end Caen, and Park, haaramiptp.
shire, and also certain warehouses and wharves in the owe
county ; thirdly, 600 tone of pig iron and metal Ail
Scales was to deposit. He was to execute sock afile
security se the bank might deem necessary. That
meat was afterwards carried out by the execution of -
Scales gave a certificate that the Iron to be
was at his disposal. On the 7th September, 1860,
a letter we. sent by Dui:meter, authorising the bank
to retain 260 shares in Lowe's Patent Copper
Company, which he had already deposited with the
bank as security for any further habffities. Oa the
Bth of August previously hs had transferred dos
to the beak by deed. They were not registered ta OW
name of the bank, but the bank gave notice to Lowe's hied
Copper Company of the charge upon them. The bank tIY
not with their nem to appear on the register. The
wrote batik that they could not recognise reql=
of the sham but la mumbler and Swift. Oa is
24th el September 18.50, the finance ocennfilse
ommted a bill of Danmeler and Swift for 7601 at hoe
months, in order that these gentlemen might take up an
emplanes of their own to a draft for the same ansountfine&
upon them by Sodas on the previous day. The firmels
committee report that they bad dismounted fie
bill for apafal smons known to the general mange.
The court of directors, after sending forPummeler and Swift,
and hearing statements from them, reported in favour of the
beak, taking up all the other aooeptsaoss of those gentismin
on °Mein conditions, one of which was dot
they appointed • person to=ct the mlni&
Oa the 10th of December, 1860, 1 resell of do
coed. Owe& wee the idly defendant present. Mr.
was gent Mr. Mullane stated that he had impeded tie
Cella and Garth ircm•works, which were of grist valuer
and he ealpeeted 10,0001 would be required to carry them on.
To the beet of soy secollectien he said that If the plant
wee sold separately ft would bring about 16,0001. On
the 10th of December there wes another meeting. I think
Mr. Mullen suggested a scheme to this afoot—that it would
be desirable, for the purpose of concealing from the public
the mutation of the bank with thole Welsh works,
that they should be transferred into the hands of some of the
directors as private individuals, and that those indivi-
dual directors should be guaranteed by the bank.
Mr. Cameron wee still absent. [A. letter wedeln by the
witness to the defendant was then put in. It relined to the
scheme suggested by Mullen. " which bad been caught at
by all present, as a means of extricating the beak
from the labyrinth.L6k court wee held on the 21st
of January, 1851. Camerae, sad other
directors were premat. A repirtOwee;blir. Williams, the roa-
dies'& appointed to value the Welsh verb, wee then m-
ooted. It has been lost. I believe there is a copy in the
poeseenon of Mr. Williams.
Sir F. Kelly—Then Mr. Williams should be produced.
Lord Campbell—l certainly feel the great importance of
having the original document.
Sir 11'. Kelly—After this evidence I hope the crown wOl
produce both the copy and Mr. Williams himself.
Sir F. Thesiger—l am quite waling to call on Mr.
Williams to produce the copy. (Addressing Mr.
—Will you heed that copy to the witness ?
Sir F. Kelly—Will you not make him a witness.
Sir F. Thetager—Certainly not.
Sir F. Kelly—l hope, my lord, this is not the mem dirk
the mom is about to pursue ?
Lord Campbell—lt Is perfectly regular. They sw nd
bound to
.all him.
Mr F. Thmiger—My learned friend has called es oil
• doement, and we do so. I certainly id! Edda
ragilliatas as a witness, so my learned friend mod lie
the document this way, or not at
Sir F. Kelly—The crews. will, of course, combed el OM
in its own way. It may, if it so choose, leave a bidet
krle
important branch of the came.
Sir F. Thedger—Of course I am responsible.
Lord Campbell add he would proceed to take
widows of the document, but the witness said he sr=
to Mane its enbetanco.
Examination continued—A court was bald on the 28th d
January. Saddle, Owen, and Cameron were amou' Ihr.
ypreeent.sarly
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works,
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