The Express.
London, England, 1866-02-10 00:00:00

nit 6012ENALENT AND THE CATTLE
PLAGUE.
A largo and influential rispristion appoisteflby
the coefeream on the cattle pique et Se. James's-Mara
Thursday, had en interview yesterday with Earl Grenville,
Prerideist of the Omecil, sad Sir George Grey. Home Secre-
tary, in order to My before them the resolutions
terda adopted by
the oriefeseees, which were published in oar yesy's
The Bael of Lime= introduced the deputation, which
he said had bees appointed at • meeting held in the
plowday, which led bees attended by practical
Wrists from so bee than 44 courts', who repres=as
ma'am ielheential agricultural eraisibm, The
that were posed at that monies spoke for themselves, and
be might say that there we • neashnity of oranies
those who had been Ares ist es to the absolute nemaratilleol
the meet etringent ',gaieties. to cheek the program of the
cattle plague. This. we but one course to bike, sad that
was in conformity with the resolutions that bad been
Enzdta,
r, end which he would sow lay before the Borne
y. Hie lordship thee referred to the numerous
attendance of member. of both houses of parliament, both
at the meeting on the previous day, and upon thedeparalioe,
explaining that it lad bore thought desirable that those
members should skate& from giving any opinion epee the
etib*A et pesent, ea they would shortly have ea oppor-
tunity of doing gotfrom their places in parlieinest.
Eit.fluz laid the first resolution, prohibiting the resseval
of Who, had hiss at diet amradied had rendered less strin-
gent in defame" to • feeling expressed by several gentle-
man from Soothed, but that was not the feeling et- the
English deputies, and the consequence was that the amend-
ment wee stench out by the eleseet uncloses voile of the
melting, only razes or four hands being held up is rapport
elll.
Sir G. Garr asked if there were any deputise at the
mesting ban them parts of Scotland from which the object.
lions to the regolutios an it But stood were received.
Xt. Pau, said they were present. Another amendemet
wee moved and seconded by two gentlemen from Bostliade
who represented the feeling and views of • pertionhe
trade, and that amendment wee distinctly antegesielle
to the resolution, but it was ?Spited, end the reeriariegi, es
it stood, was carried almost unanimously.
Sir G. Gm asked if there bad bees any repremateffioso
from the large entire and towns of the kiegdom, each se
Birmingham. Manchester, sad Liverpool, end, if nor had
they been consenting parties to the resolution.
Mr. Pat said it wee sot for him to say that. He knew
there we s representative from the Msnehester end Later-
pool Agricultural Society "regent, end that cirsslars had
bsea seat to every agricultural society is Great Britain.
Sir G. Our wished to knew how for the resolutioe in its
proms{ form might be takes es express* what ho seder-
rated they repleseneed se the ensehnotie opiates et 44
panties.
Mr. Pal.'. believed there were deputies from 21 agri-
cultural societies present, and be believed ore or two mare.
The Earl of LICHFIZLD said that 44 Gauntlet were era.
tainly represented.
Earl GILUIVILLI said It would perhaps be as well if the
government weld Misapplied with • list of those who were
present at the roratie , and it was promised that such •
list should be
Mr. Goonfer, se the representative of the Scotch Perm&
Club in Edinburgh, implemed that opinion emcees the agri-
cultural commuoity of Sontleed and others interested, is
the cattle trade there had been considerably modified lately,
sad be could say that so far as his own feeling went, his
previous °prairie bad bees very mph shaken by the essmit-
mg of the previous day. The Scotch farmers were at brat
very much in favour of various curative measures that had
been proposed, but ultimately they Mid come to the eon.
elusion that the stamping out process wee the one which
ought to be adopted. He then handed in • statement of hie
ewe view on the quintets to Sir George Grey, is acidities
M some resolutions that bad been pined by the Scotch body
he represented.
Sir G. GUY aid it appeared from the written
view, of the het speaker that le thought all danger would
sot be avoided even by the prohibition of the removel of
cattle, es slaughtering would still be e•rried on in Scotland
by butchers who might carry the infection with them
about themselves, or in the materiels they red. The
resolution forbade the removal of cattle on • highway or
by rail. Suppioaing the road intersected a firm, were the
cattle to be allowed to erase that road ?
A Moms of the Derirrartom—Distinctly not.
Sir G. Gear—Not eves with • Beene.?
Sayssac vacs—Gertainly not.
dir G. Gear sated what wee meant by the term wattle.
Did it apply only to asat cattle, or did it include sheep end
Pite
The Earl of LICSICSIM said they bad used the word is
its eceemain somptetios se moieties only seat cattle, legging
it to parliament to nee delimits team
Mr. Bross, representing the Manchester and Liverpool
Apiraltural Society, mid be could not undertake bossy
that the resolution expressed the feeling of either Mon-
cheeter or Liverpool generally, end he did not think the
deputies from any. society could claim to represent the feel-
ing of the towns is their owe onstage generally. There
could Nino doubt that the interests of the town. were an-
tagonistic to what wee sought to be done. In his own
caw, be did sot wish it to be supposed that the Manchester
and Liverpool Agriouheral Society represented the general
feeling is those towns.
Sir G. OUT said be understood that nothing is the ca-
solutioe would prevent the unlimited importance al cattle,
so that Liverpool. in fact, might be supplied with the
greatest possible sbundeoce, but that cattle so imported
mast not go island—to Manchester for instep,.
Mr. PILL said the cattle by the resolution must not go
intend alive.
Sir 0. Gm—So that every head of Irish cattle, as well
as foreign cattle, coming to England alive would have to be
slaughtered at the port of debarcation?
Mr. Pill. said it must be slaughtered, or sent awayepin.
Sir G. GM—Then the remelt looked forward to would
be that the Irish butchers would be able to carry their settle
to Liverpool, and that Manchester and all the great raves
of lanambire would bays to be supplied with dead meat.
Mr. NW. said that would be so, only he exported Mist
the adoption of the resolution would have the rough oi
inducing threw who carried an the trade to slaughter the
besets Is Ireland, end to bring the beef over in the camas.
Earl 431161VILIA—Has Liverpool facilities at present for
eleughteeinliall the cattle that might be brought there for
supplying asantry around it?
Mr. RYDER, Was Wield sot, but these facilities could be
created. If the legislature compelled it, it would be way
to obtain the new:awry mean.
11r. Simile mid be considered the facilities already
existing in our ports would really be found eutheisat, foe
who* the market was reduced I. • dead meet market on
the pert of the hotelier*, animals would not be kept benz-
in in the elaughter-hoome, but would be disposed of
• and an immense number of besets might be
slaughtered is rapid sucosesiog.
Mr. TOILZWACIfi, M.P., thought that the prohibition of
the removal of aerate tepid sot hays the desired effest, and
he ineteneed the case of Cheshire, which bad suffered mere
than any other county if. om the rattle plegoe, where the
most raziegest regulation. to that effect peered by the
magistrates, though moat strictly enforced bed been is-
effective, as the cattle disease was extending in that comety.
Mr. G. W. HIM, 11. P., said the reveres bad boss 'the
ease is Northionpeonshire. Os the 11th of Jearamy es
order wee issued prohibiting the removal of any maimed for
more than 100 yards co it. owe farm, and in one week the
deaths deorearad from 189 to Z.
Sir G. OS= All I can say to the deputation is
what I have already stated this morning to • deputation
from Yorkshire, that the government do not differ se all
from the pried* of these neolatiocia Oar first view was
that though it might be WWI to attempt to effect a cure,
yet the 'tweet coarse wee to give the power ofbotee:ibter.
That power wee gives, end we were soon cream With
remoostrances against the exercise of it. Is Deoember het
• deputation waited upon me from some of the agricultural
moociatiees, who expressed their opposition to the pewee we
bad gives, had their satidsotiou at the fact that, is Eder-
eons to public opinion, we were about to modify it. We
were told throughout moat distinctly that public opinion
did not rapport the goverement, but 'abatises% rapertenee
has folly oradrmed the wisdom of the course we took is*.
Glaring that slaughter wee the only effectual way of checking
the spread of the disease. In Aberdeenshire, ho October
last, measures were takes to "temp out the dimes' by
slaughter, and great good was dose. I believe thst a Mud
was raised
co compose*" them whose cattle wen.
which wee contributed to equally by !radioed enddttrer
Sir G. JENA:BMOC remarked that Pe of the repletion.
passed et the coofteence declared that compensation for
the slaughter of animals Infected, or in immediate contact
with Shoos infested, should be provided by sot of parlia-
ment. Hie own view was that such compensation should
be provided by a local or county rate.
Sir G. Our asked if the deputation were swat's that a
propped had bees made for a pill-tax ups cattle.
Mr. Pelf thought there were insuperable difficulties in
the way of the woomplirameot of that object
Mr. inquired if the &overslept proposed to
take • crane of cattle'
Sir G. Om—lt is befog taken now, and we hope to have
it in one pomeerion shortly.
Mr. TOLLEW•01111, III.P„ said the question of rampents.
dee involved great difficulties. As regarded Cheshire. the
disease had been so general, that if they were to attempt to
rempleelte the femme by • rate levied on spicaltueolgro-
party aloes, there would be no relief. It would be Imply
nowise with one head and paying with another.
BM G. GM—I etie here • resolution ie fewer id Illeidho
radectieg of moudoebi. milway triaelm, sad lathe pea That
M a very important quarries. The government wasted to
have ft done, sad they brought is two hilts, but the whole
apieeltmel interest opposed them. lem glad yes have
sew rage the evil et year obiections, and 1 hope that ;MOT
sans awry
tabses to provide a permanent remedy for this
state of
Lord Lalartaut tbaalrod lard f3resville sniffs' G. Grey
fee the courtesy they had displayed, sad the dayototios
this Idaho..