The Express.
London, England, 1860-05-09 00:00:00

theilth the excite duty altogether, md then. as the article
at paper would drop from the treaty, the home would he
free hi maistaia the peciesetive duty el a rq vbke
hoped meld aerie he gives ohm, lea Om"'
h.
meat were able to obtami hen a melee* fees Nom
ad
is rags. (Hear, hear.)
Sir FARQUHAR theerired that the right be. Ph*
denim °prate (Mr. Opened hod •Polma thene=2.6
is which • paper trade sow ma, hat who had .sanity
suapease but the right hem geademan himself T(Hear.)
He trusted the home would est at such • menniettit=e
sacrifice revenue to %humm ayes.
ed 1.300.0001. a)
Lust H. VANE airlifted the .vile ad tax
It fell hard upon biome Itiet, though he taw
deemed he thought that nijsuy was
(hem, hear) -.I preveried the eiroulatirarallti:
grace ; but it was a duty of beg rinedinp-es old m the
reefs of times Arite-med the interentsineelleed Is it mini
of hag stamlim. He thought the bum should have
some further alienation a to the Aria of the revenue
base they took .. important& dip a the peemat.
wr. ELIA, I:, sell., wished to state in stew words why be
inu w1....i t... s. ..,..asuit the thid reading ef whtLL
(Op
leers.) He hail not rime to that resolutimi mom
SA% regrow groats; but upon the gonad view which be
took or the resomees of the myelitis 4 the country. He
thomplit thinness''sea ware placed ineomilsouble jeopanly
by the way in whit% his tight hon. friend had brought be-
fore the house the budgeted the year. (Opposition cheers.)
In ill, few remarks he (Mr. Ellice) had made at the begin.
sing of this diermeion be had characterised the budget as
an erabiliom hedger, sad further obesriatiou bad ormfirmed
his opisiou. He had sat in that bowie for nearly half •
cerisury, and during that period had paid some attentioo to
the finsacel prition of the country, and he could not read
saissitanceofaChasostior of the Exchequer asking the house
te copal certain taxes connected with the permanent revenue
MUM, he left • Imp deficiency for tM ensuing year.
dOppesition cheers.) Now lie diel me know of anything
lima. could furnish a precedent for such • state of things.
It wan full of deager--(chests)--it was full of immure-
Icheerd- and next year at the begins's( of the
wroduct the home would be benched into premeely the same
-diseuerion which had pretested them this year from pro-
-moiling with the orilinery !miner of the um
tion. U it should be that Nome of the peat
measures of the mac were not carried this . year,
they must continue them diecassions in the beginning of
another, and provide means which would be then mock
more dispu to supply a deficiency of 10,000,001 M.
or 12,0100,0001. He had so security that the sums
amumed for them in the mtimates then before the house
were all the expthditure for which they would be called
upon to pneolc. (Opp.mtion cheers.) There wee the
China c imhtion, with regard to which be most rely, sot
mangy on the actual figures, but on his owl* judg-
ment with regard to the probabilities .4 espies&
tura. In favour of the tax Mel( he had not a
word to my. It was as adios tax. (Hear, hear.) It was
not only a tax which interfered with the enterprise of men
mint injuriously, being almost the only one of that descrip-
tion left, but it was she one which impeded the circulation
.4 inoriesige and information. Oa them grouods there
wan no man more disposed to All repeal thee himself when
he knew he could do so without injury to the exchequer.
Rut could this be dose with the risk of aadslimeney
or the occessity of heparin qtame adieus to
the people It appeared to him he wait for
MOM better better cirrimmtmess should occur to
enable hint to repeal this impost. (Opp. lion chews.) His
right hon. freed would believe that it 'caesium thegreatent
pun to differ from him, but there were other taxes to he
lio.ught forward which had sot yet ponied the home-
tiemeral of these would be strongly opposed by those whom
oiteresta were mailed. Them were • niermiatlie tax
upon the trade of the ocivatry. ((,heers.) With the
removal of the duties oa arrant ption he quite
weed ; but at the runs time there were some
little, shackling, rixaticess taxes imposed upon trade- (op
postal, therm)--bush se were known to the conunerce of
other satins in the world. He felt a strong objection to
this tax ; hat feeling this, he thought there was great diffi-
culty in repealing it at promit. Upon these grounds, with
the greatest robotism' to do myth.: in opposition to her
Majesty s government, he believed himself to be obliged in
conmienve to vote maim& the third reading. (Opprieition
rheas.)
Mr. HOPE said be should bare voted for the third read-
*of the ball, had it mot bees that, having watched with
putt interest the effect of the recent denude= in the
Morse, and find* that now of the predicted changes bed
taken piece in the reduced prim of article. from which deity
had hem removed, be did not believe in the efficacy of the
measure. He thought it would lead to an reductive is
price, as the repeal of the glen duties, for example, bad
dome, sod would cause • deageroaa low to the revenue. He
▪ therefore the third reading of the bill.
The CHANt" OR et the EXCHEQUER reminded the
house that they were sot debating the principles at the
nuancial plan of the goverament. The principal points
raised in the debate bad been already decided.
Whether it was wise ea the part of the pryer*.
meet to propose • repeal of the
.paper duty, to
be made up by m additional Id. 1111a/MO tax. that
additional 1.1. had become law. The paper duty had hem
heap in had .dour with the boom ; its effect was to keep
in limited bounds the manufacture from fibrous substances,
which he the repeal of the duty might be !Merited from
shackles:, and be enabled to pass those limits. This.
however, was not the question at issue. The resole-
time referred to the dameial state of the country.
The amount of the dermads rpm thiepublic purse hail be,,
Mated by the govermseat, seccuipsated by ea avowal that
the statement comaimd earn* elements .4 uncertainty
hut, far as regarded the preemie CIM11111A1008;
of the country, there wan nothing, he affirmed
(after review the calculates. of flit. 8. North-
vale), that would jantify the goverament in making
sew lanacial proparitions to parliament. He asked whether
a am bed ever been knave in which the repeal if a tax
had bete pops.il as • fundaessiatal part of the laaacial
scheme the yv and deliberately approved by a hem
majority. ari tie rill had hem arrested at the
third reeding. He did not peed= wright of the
Home of Commas, but it would he a taw course
of pacts, and the idled would he to give a shock to
public conideemi. 111 was shove all things, in
the matter of Mashes, that the .Yoshi know when
the voice of maimed had been uttered, and the home
led in this esse,pa • peonage to the country which It
would be MAW, nor wise to recall.
Mr. T. BARI. costeaded that the house wee per-
fectly free to change its opinion if it fount it could tome to
• more mond judgment. He did not subscribe to the
principle laid dome by the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
that when • goverarneat proposed • reduction in a duty it
should be at once taken for granted that such reduction
must take place, because if it were not carried
oat it would inflict injury to trade. He rerniaded the right
boa. g.etlenim that in 11.52 Lord Derb.is government
pwd a reduction in the tea duties, but the hsdgst of
which that proposal firmed • part was altogether
rejected. He doubted, too, whether the paper trade
was so desirous of the repeal of the excise tax,
accompanied by the repeal of the ditty on the
import of foreign paper, without anything in the shape of
compensation by • reduction in the duty an the import of
rage, that they would consider se seriously is-
Jared by the mere pawing of this a the Cheasellor of
the by
seemed to istepaa. lii• bribed that ths
result .f the anemintre meld he to drive the ampital sow es-
pied in the trade to foreign esnatrion.
Hr. DIBRAELI observed that the emeadmenit naked a
eery simple ate, which was ..tilled to Yr .1, end
wrist ...moderation of the hens.-nentely, wbelber in
the iaancial positha of the muntry, they were imeillied in
taking the step to, which the govemonest invited them. Then •
were names for believingthat, emabioing lased revenes with
excess of charge, the amount of deficiency eines the budget
waidd nearly aped the produce of the paper duty. Aad
betides this, them me the expense .4 foridicatioes. Mr..
Gibson bed riceemonted the financial ground of Mecum
lag the irtiesey of repealing this duty se a low one • but
be (Yr. D) maintimsed that • sound state of the re-
mem was the oily foundation ea which to place the in.
peorrament of the pespie. Wily, if a war were to OCCUf,
were the He.. M Comuntras to be prevented from taking
mach rime a commas prudence would dictate ? And there
ma a war with China at this moment, the Out of
which had been estimated at 500,00 W. but which was
mach more likely to be five millions. And yet the
Chancellor of the Exchequer laid down each principles with
all the mysterious dogmatism which be knew so well how to
smume when it suited his purpose, and he contradicted him-
Jell as Aeon...tautly did with that rapid incobereace, covering
his coutnolictions with • Mlle riglittenag phraseology which
prevented one from detecting immediately the weakness of
the argument (Hear, hear.) First the right hon. gentle.
man Lod down the principle that when once the house hail
consented to the rentimiao of taxation it use impossible to
offer remit...two The house teemed astonished, aml the
right hon. gentleman, growing more audaciom, quid down a
further principle that when once a ministry proposed the
remimiou of a tax, the house hail no right to
interfere. He (Mr. Disraeli) gave an odor-
nate cheer which reminded the right lion. gentle-
yam that he ha.l Netter reconsoitre his position, whereupon
the right bon. gentleman turned round. and mid there was
so instance .14 • nmustry hiving proposed the repeal if •
tax which had been refused. He remembered some memo-
rahle instances where the H.ooe of Commons had recon-
sidered its opinions. At cue time they determined to repeal
the malt tax. hot that tax was not repealed, Atanotber tinie
It was determined to repeal the sugar duties, but the go-
vernment dil um pursue the policy it had announced and
1.4 drawn. (enipaitioe cheers.) With to the pre-
amt tax he thought the house had arritZTtl
a premature
and precipitate.lecision. They had sat had • decent oppor-
tunity .4 considering the misetiou, and whenever hon.
members wished to do so the Chancellor el the Exchequer
hail risen like • dictator had deput-4rinewed oppsite*
cheers) and under a reclaim delithun the house had lately
arrived at premature deciams-thearl- which had bees
ruinous to our trade sad made e. rialindoes in the • es of
the world. What eimAdeuce would they have in foltosiosig
the councils of the right hum petleassi? (Loud cheers.)
Three maths of the present year had scree halm,) whim
the home already deplored the comes they had parried in
following the couarils .4 the right hoe. pretiersas- (cheers)
and now when there was ity of mitigating their
pee. anal. folly 17 same tit movement, he trusted
tlxr would not pre up that opportanity, or remark it to
thoimelvet, is the pryerst flasarial slate of the ossuary, to
Sacrifice • large breach ef the nroraue. which the widows
on the tahle proved was net•declialag bet am iecreasing toe
venom-.bun and he trusted they would INA do this M
Co- present isselitioa of Lampe which might make the
bol.kst sod ei-cat Lusa treeilite. (Chem-)