The Express.
London, England, 1867-12-23 00:00:00

THE FENIAN OUTRAGE AT

EXAMINATION OF THE SEVEN PRISONERS
AT ROW-STREET.—(THIS DAY.)
Timothy Desmond, Jeremiah Allen, and Anne
Justice, who were apprehended on Friday week, and twice
remanded, charged with the wilful murder of the persons
killed by the Clerkenwell explosion, and the four other
prisoners—Nicholas English, John Mullany (alias Patrick
Mulveny), William Desmond, and JohnO'Keefe, remanded
from last Friday, on the charge of treason-felony—
it had been expected would be now brought up for
further examination, and placed at the bar together, as
the charges related to the same transaction. Contrary to
this anticipation, the latter four were tint placed at the
bar, viz., William Desmond, Nicholas English, John
O'Keefe, and John Mullany.
Mr Giffard, Q.C., and Mr. Poland, appeared for the
crown, as on former occasions. Mullen, was defended by
Mr. Louis Lewis, of 23, Great Marlborough-street.
Mr. Giffard said that he proposed to have the whole of
the evidence repeated. He should then real Vaughan,
and examine him as against English and William Dee-
mond as to the charge in which the other three not now
at the bar were concerned. He should then apply for a
remand, and must ask the learned chief magistrate, not
to call upon him for any statement of the reasons why'he
took that course.
Sir Thomas Henry—Certainly.

The evidence was than reed over.
At the oonclusion of the reading of the deposition of
Vaughan, Mr. Louis Lewis prooseded to moss-examine
him ; first requesting that Sergeant Cole should be out of
*curt. It was found that he was already out of court.
Cram-examined by Mr. L. Lewis—! was never in the
polios.court till I mine in this case. I joined the Fenian
cause in 1865.
Mr. Lewis—For what purpose?
Witness—For the purpose of aiding in the regeneration
of Ireland.

Mr. Lewis—That oath you considered binding?
Witness—Yes; to carry on proper warfare.
Mr. Lewis—Have you ceased to be a member of that
body?

Witeeea—Yee, I believe I have. Now, of course I have.
Mr. Lewis—By what means?
Witness—By giving my information to the police.
Mr. Levrie—liad yon ever given information to the police
before?

Witness—l had never been in communication with the
police at all, till then.
Mr. Lewis—Were you aware that a reward had been
offered ?

Witneee—l had seen the bills on Monday about mid-
day.

Mr. Lewis—Up to the offer of the reward did you devote
all your energies to the cause?
Witness—lip to the time and after. The reward did
not alter my feeling towards Ireland. I was cognizant of
all that was to have been attempted on the prison. I did
not believe that it would have concluded in so much
bloodshed, or I would not have assisted in the conspirsey.
I have been in the army. I refuse to give the name of
the regiment on the ground that it would convict me as a
deserter.

O'Keefe—He denied that at the last examination.
Deamond—l put that question before, and be denied it.
Witness—No. He asked me if I had told the magis-
trate that I was in the army. I said, " Nor you either.'
Oross-examination oontinued—l admit that I am a'
deserter from the 58th Regiment. I enlisted about 1857, I
believe at Charles-street, Westminster. Previous to
that I was working at the tailoring trade. Up to
that time I had not been in prison. I was
never charged with any offenoe, I swear. I was
tried once by court martial for absence without leave. I
was only tried once. I don't come here to tell lies. I
deserted in about 1859 or 1860, lam not quite sure. Up
to the time of last Monday I had done all in my power to
the Fenian brothers. I heard something about a barrel
of gunpowder. I thought it was only the wall
that was going to be blown up. It was to
assist the prisoners to escape. I heard that the
House of Detention was to have been blown up, but I did
not know bow. I did not then give information to the
police. Till then I thought no life would have been lost,
and merely the wall bounding the yard of exercise would
have been blown down and Burke and Casey would have
escaped. Ido not know the House of Detention. I ex-
pect a portion of the reward if any of these men are con-
victed. Ido not know how much I shall get. I have had
no conversation on the point.
Mr. Lewis asked where the witness resided ; but this
was objected to by the witness, and Sir Thomas said the
question must not be pressed. The reason was obvious.
Examination continued—l am now supported by some
one, but I object to state who. I believe Father O'Connor
was a Roman catholic priest. The father attended the
meeting to give a lecture. I was told they were to have
• collection of money to buy arms. Father O'Conner did
not say that. I heard of the meeting by word of month.
There may have been tickets. Father O'Connor was
going to speak a little on Ireland. I can't say it was an
open meeting, for there were two men at the door to keep
watch. I did go to some public-house that was admis-
sible to anybody. I saw Mullany seven different times,
both at the meeting and at the public-house. The
meeting referred to is the only meeting where I have met
Mullany, but I have seen him frequently at Cavamigh's
public-house. I am not in the habit of administering the
Fenian oath.
By Desmond—l have known you eighteen months, and
have had conversations with you, and I have firmly under-
stood you to belong to the Fenian brotherhood. Timothy
Desmond told me that you were going to shoot Corydon,
Massey, and Devaney.
William Desmond—l have been in the army, and have
kept allegiance to the Queen, and did not desert. What
do you know about me? I swear before myjMaker I am ,
innocent.
Sir Thomas Henry—This is not the time for • statement.
Desmond here became very excited, and asked the
witness • great number of question, with such rapidity
and vehemence that the witness could not find time to
answer them.
Desmond—l was only at the public-house once, and that
was in a raffle for the benefit of a poor widow whose hus-
band was on strike. You wretch-(this was to the wit-
ness)—l can bring witnesses to prove my innocence.
Sir Thomas Henry—At the proper time you shall have
every opportunity of producing witnesses.
Desmond—l have no counsel or advice. I know I shall
be loss through it.
By English—Yes. I was at the meeting and saw you
there.

English—Yes, and I saw you there, and a very Sue
fellow, too.
Cross-examined by English—l heard that the meeting
was for the " Boss "to give instruction. I saw you at the
public-house as well. They were mostly tailor,, and
shoemakers on strike at the meeting. I did not say
that the meeting was for the purpose of buying arms.
I said the rallies were for buying arms. I ain't swear you
are a Fenian. I think you are one of the chief of them. I
can't swear for there are never more than two present
during the oath. I did not tell you that evidence had
been given against D. men.
English—He told me and Desmond to skedaddle, as in-
formation had been given against nine more men. I weir
that by my God.
Witnen—l told them they had better hook it off. I
did say last Friday that English gave me the tip that the
meeting was to be held at the temperance-hall.
English asked that Sergeant Cole might be brought in
to produce some cards which were said to have been taken
from him.

Cole said he had no such cards, but Sergeant Bunoe
had.
Bunco was called in and Paid they were found, not in the
possession of English, but in that of Mullnuy. They were
produced and read. They related toe lecture to be de-
livered by Clinton Hoey, Eeq., on the " Literary and Po-
litical Celebrities of Ireland." at the Benjamin Franklin-
hall, Castle-street East, Newman-street, Oxford.street,
for the " Manchester prisoners' relief fund," on the 11th
November, 1867. The admission was to be one shilling.
Mr. J. Ryan was to take the chair, and there was to be a
ball after the lecture. Some others were found on O'Keefe.
Sir Thomas Henry proposed to mark the cards found on
Mullany's possession, A ; and those found in O'Keefe's, B.
I Mr. tonic Lewis submitted that they ought to be
marked with the prisoner's names.
Sir Thomas Henry—By all means. (This was done.]
Sergeant Bunco produced three cards and a bill which
were found at Mullany's apartment. in a chest of drawers.
The house was No. 20, Sherwood-street. On the 15th
inst. some were found on the prisoner O'Keefe.
The cards were then marked respectively " Mullany, A"
and" O'Keefe, B."
Cross-examination of Vaughan by English continued
—1 told you to hook it on the Monday.
Desmond—There is no nee asking him any more gees-
gone ; he'll deny everything. He told me on the Tuesday,
only it suits him better to say it was on the Monday.
Witness—l told bim on the Monday, for I heard his
name mentioned, and also that three prisoners had been
examined on the Monday at Bow-street. I said I had
heard his name freely used, and that he had better hook it.
The witness being asked to repeat some former answers
Sir Thomas Henry said they were already down.
William Desmond said it would not be much trouble to

repent. _
Witness—Yes, it would be a great deal of trouble.
Desmond—The wretch Is only doing this to get the re-
we'd because he met et his limns honestly as I do.
Witness foroawexaminedby O'Keefel—l do know another
perrou named O'Keefe. Yon are the only O'Keefe I

believe to belong to the Fenian Brotherhood. Ido know
two O'Keefe's more, but I don't know three more. When
Desmond told me O'Keefe was going to assist to blow up the
House of Detention I guessed it was you. I have seen you
connected with the three primers several times.
The witness was minutely cross-examined as to how
often he bad seen O'Keefe with the prisoners, as to which
he repeated substantially his former statement as to the
temperinee.meeting. He observed that if any warning
had been given that the police were rooming, it would
not have followed that the meeting should break up.
O'Keefe's questions being at length exhausted he aid,
—I can't think of anything else. He has made such a
terrific long statement you sea.
The further evidence given cm this ocosidon was then
read over, and the prisoners ware remanded.
O'K.sefe here remarked that he bad no oportanity of
=i witnesses together for his defence. He was eon.
rag witnesses
Milbank and had no awes, to his friends.

English—Slay I have an order to see my wife ?
Mr. Giffard—l now sir, to charge William
Desmond and English, conjoin with the other three
previously in custody with the wilful murder of the per.
sons killed at the explosion in Clerkenwell. O'Keefe and
Mullany were not included in this charge.
The two last-mentioned prisoners were then removed,
and the other three were brought in. The five now
charged with murder were English, the two Desmond',
Allen, and Anne Justice.
Mr. Giffard suggested that the witness Vaughan should
be re-sworn, and his evidence read over, which was done.