The Express.
London, England, 1867-04-13 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, APRIL 13, 1867. -'6`•

it was not even (a scarcely less heinous offence
in this country and ago of clubs) an invasion of
the Masonic confidence of club-room converse ; it
was no betrayal of that easy chat, half in banter
half in earnest, among a few intimate political
enemies met by chance together in one of those
apartments of the Palace of Westminster in which
the family life of the House is transacted ; it was
none of these things, saero Wpm sileutio, that
Mr. OSBORNE impiously exposed to the profane
surmises and suspicions of the profane. It was a
" document" that had been placed in his hands, for
which he declared himself not responsible, and
which, according to Mr. 0. STANLEY, to whom
Mr. OSBORNE appealed for an authentication of
his statement, had been seen and read by "many
"other members." Thia " document " purported
to be the minutes of a conversation between
Colonel TAYLOR, on the part of her
MAntsTY's Government, and Mr. DILLWYN,
representing " one or two other hon. mom-
" bars of the Liberal party." "At the request
" of certain members," Mr. DILLWYN had com-
mitted the terms to writing, and shown them to
Colonel TAYLOR, who admitted their correctness ;
and the substance of this conversation was to the
effect that Colonel TAYLOR undertook, "as a
" gentleman and a man of honour," to press upon
the Cabinet the desirability of accepting Mr.
HIBBERT'S amendment, which would remove the
disabilities of the compound householder ; and he
" further gave an intimation that Lord DERBY and
" Mr. DISRAELI were personally in favour of
" accepting that amendment." Mr. DILLWYN,
who has lately achieved a certain importance in'
the Tea-room conclave, and as an earnest supporter
on Thursday evening of Lord Geese/owes mo-
tion for adjourning the Reform debate until after
the recess—in order to save time and hasten the
passing of the Bill—did his best to justify
Mr. ()spouses interpellation by an embarrassed
and redundant explanation of the " little matter,"
and by an injured air of surprise that his name
should have been brought under the notice
of the House in a manner so sudden and
unexpected. Little matters of this kind, very
possibly harmless, are easily made enormous by an
awkward apologist. Mr. DILLwYN deserved the
sympathy of all who heard him when he pleaded
that it was always difficult to decide precisely how
much or how little of a private conversation might
be made public without breach of confidence ; and
in avowing that he was one of those Liberals who
desired to see a Bill passed " even in the shape of
" a compromise," he made clear enough the nature
and object of those pourparlers with Colonel TAY-
LOR, which he had afterwards committed to writing,
and handed about among his friends. Assuredly
there was nothing to be ashamed of in any
Liberal member, whether of Mr. DILLWYN'S or
of Mr. GLADSTONE'S persuasion, in conversing cor-
dially and unreservedly with Colonel TAYLOR on
the disposition of the Government to make fur-
ther concessions, and to abate their determination
to stand or fall by certain clauses. Had Mr.
DILLWYN'S conversation with Colonel TAYLOR
remained in its oral state it could never have been
brought before the House by Mr. OSBORN& It
was not until it became a " document " in
writing that it fell, as we think, legitimately
into the domain of public and parliamentary
responsibility. Mr. DILLwYs, it must be remem-
bered, was one of those who desired the adjourn-
ment of the debate over the recess in the hope of
some arrangement "by which the views of
" different parties might be met." No doubt
he, and other members who agree with him, are
perfectly sincere in thinking that the best pos-
sible Reform Bill for the present will be the one
that can be soonest and moat easily passed; and thrt
this end can only be attained by " a compromise."
But as Mr. O'REILLY and Mr. 0. STANLEY insisted
last evening, it is indispensable to the credit and
honour of the House that any compromise should
be "an open one," and not a quasi-diplomatic
pourparler, like the contemplated " compromise "
of the independence of the people of Luxemburg
between the King of HOLLAND, in want of cash,
and the Emperor of the FRENCH, in want of glory.
Indeed in putting his conversation with Colonel
TAYLOR into writing, Mr. DILLWYN, we would
gladly believe, designed to remove all suspicion of
secrecy, and to vindicate his own single-mindedness
in the transaction.

OUR CONTEMPORARIES.
(THIS DAY.)

The Amt thinks no person need regret the result. The
country is probably spared all the inconvenience of an im-
mediate disaolution, and the question of parliamentary
reform may be regarded as fluidly settled.

The Herald represents the division as ass between the
friends of reform and of the government on the one side,
and the enemies of the government and of reform on the
other. Every man who wanted to get rid of reform or to
turn out the government voted with Mr. Gladstone.
The Star says the debate began and ended amidst acri-
monious personalities, and that the question to be decided
was the capricious exclusion from the franchise of two-
thirds of the working-class occupiers. The mischievous
defections on the liberal side have done their work. At
five minutes before two the conservative members were
crowding around Mr. Disraeli, shaking hands with him
over a victory which once more retards the settlement of
reform, and which ratifies in the name of this doubly-
diagraoed Rouse of Commons the deliberately concerted
frustration of the popular demands.

Most of our contemporaries refer to the discussion
introduced but night by Mr. Osborne on the subject
of Colonel Taylor's communication. The Times con-
cludes that the Secretary of the Treasury opened
negotiations entirely on his own responsibility, and
says the proceeding was irregular and inexpedient.
The Tines is glad that Lord Stanley repudiated
all engagements, and declared in the name of his col-
leagues that they continued the debate free and nnpledged.
No one, consequently, has given a vote under a false
impression, as he might have done had not attention been
called to the conversation and proposition we have
described. Even at the most momentous crisis it is better
not to owe sisinglelvoto to anything that boars the sem-
blance of tricker.

*The H. nth! uses violent language on the subject, going
so far as to say that any member of a club who had acted
as Mr. Osborne has done in [a non-political matter would
have been sent to Coventry by his fellow-members, and
have lost for ever his position among gentlemen.

REPRESENTATION OF THE
PEOPLE BILL.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION LAST NIGHT.
Considered in Committee :—Clause 3 :—Amendment pro-
posed in page 2, lines 3 and 4, after the words " and 2,"
to insert the words " whether he in person or his land-
lord be rated to the relief of the poor :"-(Mr. Glad-
stone)—Question again proposed, " That those words
be there inserted :"—Question put :—The Committee
divided ; Ayes, 289 ; Noes, 310.

AYES.
Acland. T. D. Foster, W. O. Norwood, C. M.
Adair, H. E. Fort, R. O'Beirne. J. L.
Agar Ellis, L G. Furtescue, C. P. O'Brien. Sir P.
Agnew, sir A. Fortescue, D. F. O'Conor Don, The
Allen, W. s. Gurnee, serf. irDonoghtie, The
Amberley, Visct. unison, T. If. Ogilvy, air J.
Anatruthrr. air It. Gilpin, C. •7 Oliphant, L.
Antrobus, E. ttladstone, W. E. O'Loghlen,Slr C.
Armstrong, R. Gladstone, W. H. Outlaw, U.
Ayrton, A S. Glyn, G. G. %Stilly, M. W.
Aytoun, R. S. Ooldsznid, sir F. Us6erue, R. B.
Bagwell, J. Goldamid, .1. Otway, A. J.
Baines, E. Gower, F. L. Owen, Sir H.
Barclay, A. C. Gosehen, O. J. Puke, Ord.
Baring, A. 11. Graham, W. Pedsote, R.
Barnes, T. Gray, Sir J. Palmer, Sir R.
Barrie, ter H. Gregory, W. H. Pew. J. W.
Barry, C. R. Greaell, H. R. Peel, Sir R.
Baster, W. E. Greville.Nugent, A. Peel, A. W.
Batley, T. Greville-Nugent„CoL Peel, J.
Beaumont, W. B. Grey, Sir G. Pelham, Lord
Berkeley, H. F. Gridley, Capt. Petri, Sir S. M.
11141,114 h, Col. Grosvenor, Capt. Philips, R. N.
Biiidulph, M. Grove, T. I. Portman, W. H.
Blake, J. A. Gurney, S. Potter, K
Bonham-Carter, J. Hadfield, 0. Potter, T. B.
itourcrie, K P. Hamilton, E. W. Power, Sir J.
Bright, Sir C. Harkey, T. Price, it. G.
Bright, J. Hanmer. Sir J. Price, W. P.
Bruce, Lord C. liardcastie, J. A. Proil, Lord
Bruce, H. A. Harris, J. D. Itawlinsou, Sir If.
Buller, Sir A. W. HarUngtun,3Larq. of Rebuw, J. G.
Buller, Sir K Hay, Lord J. Robartes, T. J.
Butler, C. 8. Hay, Lord W. Robertson, D.
Buxton, Sir T. F. 'Leyte?, Capt. Rothschild, Baron
Calera' t, J. H. Headlam, T. L L. de
Calthurne F. H. Ileathcote, Sir W. Rothschild, Baron
CandlirnJ , J. Henderson, J. AL de
Cardwell, E. Ifeneage, E. Rothschild, N. M.. de
Carington. C. R. Henley, Lord Russell A.
Carnegie, C. Herbert, H. A. Ewalt F. W.
Castierosse, Via. HVitsouLE. D. Russell, Sir W.
Cate, T. St. Aubyn, J.
Cavendish, Lord E. Hifolb4l K Same* J. D'A.
catendiati, Lord G. Hope, A. J. B. Samuelson, B.
Chambers, M. Honunan, F. Schuh:field, W.
Cheetliani, J. Howard, C. W. Scutt, Sir W.
Childers, 11. C. Hubbard, J. U. berme, G. P.
Crowley, Sir M. Hughes, T. Seely, C.
Clay, J. Hughes, W. B. Seymour, A.
Clement, W. J. Hurst, R. H. Seymour, H. D.
Clinton, Lord E. Hatt, Sir W. Shaft°, R. D.
Clive, G. Jackson, W. Sheridan, H. B.
, W. 11. Jenuise, Sir J. Sheriff, A. C.
Colebtooke, Sir T. Johnstone, Sir J. Simeon, Sir J.
Coleridge, J. D. Kearakry, Capt. Smith, J.
Collier, Sir It, Kennedy, T. Smith, J. A.
Colthurst„ Sir O. Kinglake, A. W. Smith, I B.
Colvile, C. R. Kinglake, J. A. Speirs, A. A.
Cowen, J. Kagerote, CuL Stacpuole, W.
tawpar, H. 3'. Kinnard, A. F. Stanley, W. 0.
Warner, W. F. Knatchbull - Huges- Statudeld, J.
Cranborne, Vied. men, E. Stone, W. H.
Crautuni, E. H. Laing, 8. Stuart, Col.
Crawford, It. W. Layard, A. 11. Sullivan, E.
Cremorne, Lord Lawrence W. Sykes, Col.
Crossley, SirF. Lawson, J. A. Synan, K J.
Davie, sir If. Leathern, W. H. Taylor, P. A.
De La Puer, L Lee, W. Tito, W.
Denman, 0. Leeman, G. Tomlin, Cl.
Dent, J. D. Daiwa G. J. Torrena, W. T.
Derlng, Sir E. Lucke, J. Tracy, C. R.
larereuz, R. J. Lowe, R. Trevelyan, G. G.
Duke, Sir W. Leak, A. Vanderbyl, P.
Duff, M. E. M'Laren, D. Verney, Sir H.
Doff, R. W. Maguire, J. F. Villiers, C. P.
Dundee, E. Marjorlbanks, Sir D. Vivian, Capt.
Dundas, Slr D. Martin, C. W. Waring, C.
Dunlop, A. C. Martin, P. W. Warner, E.
Earle, R. A. Matheson, A. Watkin, IL W.
Edwards, C. Merry, J. Weguelin, T. M.
Eliot, Lord Milbank, F. A. Western, 81r T. B.
Ellice, li Mlll, J. 8. Whatman, J.
Enfield, Visa. Miller, W. Whitbread, 8.
Erskine, Vice-Adm. Mills, J. R. White, Capt.
Esmuntle, J. Milton, Thick White, J.
Evans, T. W. Mitchell, A. Whitworth, B.
Ewart, W. Moffatt,O. Wiekluun, H. W.
Eykyn, R. Monerieff, J. Williamson, Sir H.
Fawcett. H. Monk, C. J. Winangton, Sir T.
}Vacs, J. Monsen, W. Woods, H.
Finlay,Munro, C. Wyld, J.
Fitzgerald, Lord 0. More. R.'. WT4II, M.
Fitzkatrick, J. W. Morris, W. Young, G.
Foljambe, F. J. Morrison, W. Young, R.
Fordyce, W. D. Murphy, N. D. TELLIRS.
Forster, C. Neap, C. Brand, H. B.
Forster. W. E. Nicol, J. D. Adam, W. P.

NOES.
Adderiey, C. B. Galway, ViscL Mitchell, A.
Akroyd, L. Garth. B. Mltturd, W. T.
Andover, Visit. Ceskell, J. M. 3lontagu, Lord IL
Annealey, CoL Getty, 8. 0. Montgomery, Sir 0.
Anson, Major Goddard, A. 1.. Mordaunt. Sir C.
Archdall, Capt. Goldney, 0. Morgan, 0.
Arkwright, K. Gooch, 812. D. Morgan, Major
Billigalls.Y, R. Goodson, J. Morris, 0.
Bane. sir W. Gore, J. IL Mowbray, J. R.
I'
C.
. Gore, W. R. Nan, Lord
ll:A, r-i. r .T. Gent, J. K. Neeld, Sir J.
Millie. H. J. Grant, A. Neville-Orenville, IL
Baring, T. Graves. 8. R. Newdegete, C. N.
Bartlett, 11. Greetuill,G. Newport, Viact.
Barrington, Vied. Greene, N. North, Col.
Barrow, W. H. Gray, Ueut.-CoL Northoote, Mr 9.
Bartelot, Cul. Grey, T. de O'Neill, E.
Bass, A. Grifilth, C. I), Packs, C. W.
Baas, M. T. Grosvenor, Earl Paget, R. H.
Bateson, Sir T. Grosvenor, Lord F.. Pakington, Sir J.
Bathurst, A. A. Guinness, Sir B. Palk, Sir L
Beach, Sir M. Gurney. P.. Parker, Major
Beach, W. W. Gwyn, R. Parry, T.
&olive, Earl of Hamilton, Ld. Claud Patten, CoL
beecroft, G. 8. Hamilton, Lord C. J. Paull, H.
Bentinek, G. C. Hamilton, L T. Peel. Oen.
Betiyon, R. Hamilton, ViscL Pennant, G. D.
Beresford, C. D. Hardy, G. Pim. J.
Bingham, Lord Hardy, J. Powell, F. 8.
Booth, Sir It. H.rtJey, J. Pritchard, J.
Bourne, CoL Hartopp, K. B. Pugh, D.
itowen,J. B. Harvey, R. B. Read, C. B.
Bowyer, Sir O. Haney. R. J. Reardon, D. J.
Brady, Dr. Hervey, Lord A. Renton, G. W.
Brett, W. B. Hay. Sir J. Ridley, 81r M.
Bridges, Sir B. Heathrote, O. H. Robertson, P. F.
Briscoe, J. 1. Henley, J. W. Roebuck, J. A.
Bromley, W. 1). lieliniker-Major, J. Molt, tlir J.
Brooks, R. Herbert, Cul. Royston, Viact.
Browne, Lord J. Renate, Sir F. W. Russell. Sir C.
Bruce, Lord L Hiltiyard, T. B. Sandford, G. IL
Bruce, Sir H. Hodgitinson, G. fkhrieber, C.
Bruen, H. Hodgson, el. N. Relater-Booth, G.
Buckley, IL Hogg, LL-Col. Scott, Lord H.
Bulkeley, Sir R. Holtord, R. 8. Scour& Id, .1. H.
Burrell, Sir P. Holmessiale, Vied. Stiehl, li. J.
Butier-Johnstone,H. Hood, Sir A. Selwyn, C. J.
Campbell, A. H. Hamby, W. H. tievenie. J. E.
Borstal, T. B. i Seymour, 6. 11.
Cartwright, CoL Hotham. Lord Simonds, W. B.
Cave, 8. Howes, E. Smith, A.
Chambers, T. Huddleston, J. W. Smith, S. 0.
Chatterton, H. L Hunt, O. W. smonett. V. B.
Clinton. Lord A. lanes, A. C. Somerset, Col.
Clive, Capt. James, E. Stanhope, J. B.
Cobbold. J. C. Jervis, Major Stinky, Lord
Cochrane, A. D. Joilide, 11. H. Stanley, F.
Cole, H. Jones, D. Steel, J.
tole, J. 1.. Kerslake, Sir J. Stock. 0.
Corbally, M. L Kerslake, E. K. Stoptord, 8. O.
Corranos, F. 8. Kavanagh, A. Ittrnnge, sir .1,
Corry, H. L Kekewich, 8. T. Stuart, LL-CoL
Courtensy, lord Relit. J. Stueley, Sir G.
Cooper. K H. Kendall N. Sturt, H. G.
Cox, W. T. Kennard, 8.. W. Stud, Lt.-Col.
Cnbitt, G. K er, D. S. Burke., V.
Curzon, VIKL King, J. K. Sorters. H. K
Dalglish, R. King, J. 0. Sykes, C.
Dalkeith, Harlot Knight, F. W. Taylor, Col.
Dawson, 8.. P. Knightley, Sir B. Thorold, 84 J.
Dick, F. Knox, l'Ol. Thynne, Lord 11.
Dickson, Major Knox, Major Tollenmehe, J.
Dillwyn, 1.. 1.. Laren, Sir E. Tomos, R.
Misdate, R. Laird, J. Tottenham. T.L-Col
Disraeli, B. Lamont. J. Treeby, J. W.
Walton, K Langton. W. 0. Trevor, Lord A.
Dowdeswell, W. E. Lovas, C. Trollnpe, Mr J.
Du Cane. C. laseelles, LW. Turner, C.
Dunconshe, AdM. Leader, N. P. Vance, J.
Buncombe, Cot Lechmere, Sir K. Vandeknr, Col.
Dunne, Gen. Legh, Major Verner, K W.
Dutton. R. H. "Ahoy, A. Verner, Sir W.
Ake, W. H. Lennox, Lord O. Vernon, It. Y.
I Dlott, Col. Lennox, Lord H. Vivian, H. H.
1 Eaton. 11. W. Leine, C. P. Walcott, Adm.
Eckersky, N. Lewis, H. Walker, Major
Edwards, Sir H. Liddell, H. 0. Walpole, 8. If.
Egerton, Sir P. Lindsay, Col. C. Wairond, J. W.
Egerton, A. F. Linden, tbL R. Walsh, A.
Egerton, K C. long, It. P. Walsh, Sir J.
Egerton, W. Lopes, Sir M. Waterhouse. 8.
Etch°, Lord Lowther, Capt. Wellay, W. E.
Ewing. H. E. Lowther, J. Whalley, G. IT.
Vane, LL-CoL MacEvoy, E. Williams, K. M.
Vane Vol. ]('Kenna, J. N. Wise, H. C.
Yeilden, J. Mackie. J. Woodd, B. T.
Yellows. E. Mackinnon, Capt. Wyndham, 11.
?enema, Sir J. Mackinnon, W. A. Wynn, Sir W. W.
titzwilliam, C. W. 'Allow, P. Wynn, C. W.
?toyer. J. Mainwaring, T. Wynne, W. R.
Foley, 11. W. Malcolm, J. W.
Fmk, Col. Manner., Lord J. TCLIXILI.
Forester. Gen. Manners, Lord U. Noel, G J.
Freshfleld, C. K. Marsh, M. 11. Whitmore, 11.
()Owe', Sir W. Heller, col.
LIBERAL MEMBERS WHO VOTED WITH THE
GOVERNMENT.

Forty-six liberals voted with the government. Their
names are as follows :
E. Akroyd Hon. G. H. Ileathoote
Visa. Andover G. lincliikinaon
M l stil is. Anion
E. Jlllll,ll
A.
J. Lamont
M. T Hasa Harvey !evils
Sir G. 11- .wyer X Nl•Evoy
Dr. Brady J. N. NPKenna
J. Briscoe J. Macide
Lord John Browne Capt. Mackinnon
Lord &nest Bruce W. A. Mackinnon
Sir R. Bulkeley Mr. Mainwaring
T. Chambers M. Marsh
Lord A. Clinton T. A. Mitchell
M. Corhally T. Parry
R. Dalglish J. Pim
L. Diliwyn Mr. Pritchard
F. Walton D. Rearden
Loral Etcho J. A. Roebuck
11. Ewing J. Steel
Hon. C. Pltzwilliarn O. Stock
H. W. Foley H. Vernon
Earl Grosvenor it. Vivian
Lord R. Grosvenor U. Whalley
The above list includes, it will be peen, 24 of the original

adtillemites, 17 who* eell themselves radicals, and !, very
moderate whigs not is the old " cave."
The only metropolitan members on the list are the
members for Marylebone, Mr. H. Lewis and Mr. T. Cham-
bers, and one of the members for Lambeth, Mr. F. foul-
ton. Nine on the list represent Irish constituencies, and
Ere Scotch constituencies.

General Peel, Mr. Lowther, and Mr. Butler-Johnstone
voted with government.
CONSERVATIVE VOTkn FOR THE AMEND-
MENT.
Viscount Craaborne A. B. Hope
B A. Earle J. G. Hubbard
Sir W. Heathcote
The members for the Tower Haudets, for Finsbury, for
the City of London, for Westminster, and for Southwark,
and one of the members for Lambeth (Mr. T. Hughes)
voted, it will be seen, for the amendment.

The minority also includes the names of a large pro-
portion of the members who were present at the celebrated
tea-room meeting—such as Mr. Clive, Mr. A. Russell,
Sir F. Crossley, Professor Fawcett, Mr. Seely, Mr. Clay,
Mr. Oliphant, Mr. Locke, Mr. Torrens, Mr. R. Potter, Mr.
M`Laren,

Conspicuous among the absentees were Mr. Ilibbert and
Mr. Platt.

Messrs. Lowe and Dorman voted for the amendment.
It is somewhat singular that the number of members who
voted last night for the government and constituted the
majority, viz., 310, was precisely the same num-
ber as that of the minority in 1859, when
the Derby government was driven from office.
Last night 598 members took part in the division. In
the fatal division on Mr. Gladstone's bill last year the
number was much larger, viz., GB. A still larger number
took part in the division in 1859 on Lord Derby's Reform
Bill, 633 members having then voted.
Mr. Charles Burtan's absence is, we regret to learn, due
to severe illness.

According to the division list, 288, not 289, voted with
Mr. Gladstone, and 310 with government. The majority
wu therefore 22.

(From the Timm.)

The division occupied about • quarter of an hour, and as
the benches gradually filled with hon. gentlemen returning
from the lobbies, the most intense anxiety was displayed
respecting the result. The tellers for the Ayes were the
first to arrive, and amid breathless suspense they handed
in their return to the clerk at the table. The nature of
that return was immediately communicated from one
member to another with •hnost electric rapidity,
and it was whispered that the government had
commanded a majority. Every face on the ministerial
side beamed with excitement and delight as the tidings
spread. So overpowering indeed, was the enthusiasm en-
kindled that hon. members evidently experienced great
difficulty in restraining their emotions, and a slight clap-
ping of hands was audible. The tellers for the Noes
made their appearance in about a minute after those on
the other side, and amid a hush of expectation handed in
their return. The figures were quickl) entered, and the
clerk handed the paper to the government teller, Mr.
Whitmore. A vociferous cheer at once broke out from the
ministerial ranks, the swell of acclamation rising to a full
diapason of jubilation, and then slowly falling with music-
like cadence. Meanwhile, the four tellers had retired •
few paces, had again advanced to the table, and, as soon as
a sufficient lull was restored, Mr. Whitmore announced
the numbers. Another, and even more fervid, outburst of
enthusiasm succeeded, the ministerialists cheering with
almost frantic energy, and many of them waving their
bats, and giving other unusual manifestations of delight.
A number of hon. members pressed forward to the Treasury
bench, and shaking bands with the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, who was radiant with smiles, congratulated him
with great warmth on the victory which the government had
achieved. The opposition had all this while preserved an
unbroken mile ice, and only showed by their countenances
the disappointment which they experienced.
In a few minutes there was a rush to the doors, and the
chairman having been ordered to report programs the house
resumed.