The Express.
London, England, 1856-04-15 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 15, 1856.

IMPERIAL P.

ROUSE OF LORDS.—IioNDAT, APRIL 14.
The home met at five o'clock.
CHURCH DISCIPLINE ACT.
The II shop of BANGOR inquired of the noble ud
learned lord on the woolsack if he p raced is him intention
of proceeding with the Chute+ Disciplise Bill mow be'ore
-Its how ? The right rev. prelate complained that a motion
that he had made for this production eta ',porta the Rode-
'Units! Commiassion, and which was agreed to, was not
inentiowed Ia the jooralls tf the Usu.
Alta mu obeervatioss from Mr Low CwitWCll.LO2,
tto p of welch did riot reach us
Lord MDESDALE said that ao isotion that the report
in question he laid ow the tible could be mid., as it waa
already bedm their lordihips. This only motion that could
Ds made was that the report be re-printed.

Isms enisnala es ilea that their sasistesalmint la westseason or
Monad ky the Berepan Mead geweement. on the sentswp
Skits lisel 11 te
tut any stemles=e,
.that phißerepans la their respemin
e top Inwedgate complidate Wench,
Mien Mos ; Islam wadi the maws win ones ward at peat '
lele awl inesnmelmis to maw simpisieta, ev pate! ney
=ban beasedbistmassibmffieseer,M 1t5..14 a the
they 'Pm paw* Yarn Mason.
New with nspeet to this Means," of the compatty or the
Peel government as te the Act of the prevalence of torture
is Madras. There were many dreumatasses to amount for
the feet that violent), was practised amongst the natives
without Butane's* being "wore of it. In the first place, it
should be recollected, that then were Daly three European
magistrates fora district larger than the whole of Wales,
and that therefore anything like dente nperintendenc•
wee impossible. The posse of the report, which
said, " The certainty that no cation would have moos'," to
such practices is site premise of Bes•opeans," however,
am at net the chugs of the complicity of Englishmen
le the plastics. Avis, the report said, "Pew of the civil
Servant, of the company could testify nom personal know-
ledge to the "netters of torture, not eve. the statical men
gnashed to the sill& stations, and when it was remembered
she that they persons had charge of the sink, it could not
bat twine sureties that thsy should be ignorant of the
preMice." But, he
tho wank 'eked,
s, wee when even the medical *Sears
it te wesdered at that
the higher ono nof the goverseteat should know sonde,
about it? Again, the report said, at p. 37, "It might be
said that European officen wen to blows for not
isvestigatisg every sew, bat those who urged
that knew little of the latent of their duties.
They forgot the immune size of the collectorates
sad the smell somber of Europeans that was employed for
the affairs of each province." do much for the question
of ;pontos. He (the Cake of Argyll) must booster,
observa that is !onset years the sebum* of these pr 11061209
had been brought to the sotto' of the Indian gunrooms;
and they would led Several circulars to the collector and
magistrates directing measures of the most stringent nature
for the putting as end to tits practice. He thought they
would and that eo far back as 1810 and 1812 the practice
was brought seder notion, end simian were based hatpin
reference to torture. But the more Impertaut quesitloa was,
to consider •betber any effectual step had bees takes on
the part of the ledisn government shin the Swaim of the
ownwirsion. The mottle sell had used Prosy language re-
speedos the But India Company, bat It was very difficult
to say what was the share of the company in the matter. It
was well known that the company was under the eostml of
the Board of Control, and that any onion agaiut the di-
fedora was a censure stalest the bo- rd. Besides , bet' ought
Um Massage was dressier Mae was warranted by the fasts,
although, no doubt, one of the mulattos' bed as Wons-
an' Pawnee is perpetuating the practice of torten. He
meant the jeactios of the polio' with the nooses duties.
There was a passage in the report of the cowuniananers
which bore on this, when It said "It was clear that
the me of torten is criminal matters would sot be
toes Is lest's, to its me la the ralactios of the
revenue." Bat ha begged to say that the directors
is combinieg ohm police with the nvesse, wart forti-
fied by the reeomstesdatiou and advise of air Thomas
Munro • man whom tba mettle earl himself bad dweribed
as the greatest name in the history of India, and as Mending
nearer in mescal Ware es the late Duke of Wellingtos
than any other stabile mat of modem times, Br Thomas
Munroe was also • mat who took the native pops-
Miele especially seder his protection. He would
now direct intuition to what was being dons, and
what was proposed to be done, to Haien" the
abominable system of torture. If they would refer
to the last peg, of the report, they would fled by the
minute of Lord Hurls, that his lordship cocieurred in every
suggestion of the commisebeen, and espeelally with refor-
ests to the rev*. ue, althosith it appeared that then were
some almost insuperable difficulties is the way of alteration,
especially se recorded the employment of • gloater number
of BOMA.* officers. He (the DIM* of Argyli) regretted to
Wars that, as he considered the Menem of Euro-
peas Olken an esseetlal element In any successful
plan of nform. It was slimly proved that all
round the stet:lona when Eames= were pony
employed the practice of OPP, was wiry sod may
faffieed by wive oaken as Ms waive psyshiliss. With
regard te the mpatatim of the revenue from taw polies he
hoped it wand be found preetiosbl.. He it post
deagenue sad Mempedt that the waef smammest
of Pad. is Itself highly e4esSiossbleohesil sembseted
by the police' wed Lekofaufslit be famed
possible to effect the separatism se dues two grestembleate,
but It was admitted that senses difficulties stood in
the way of the separation. He would rely allude
to am despatch men, which bad been laid upon their
lordships' table that as rola& from the ladle Company
to the governor ot Madras in 1863. Their lordships
would find then very good regulations laid down with "c-
-isme, to the valsatios of lend. They said, "We desire
that you bear in mind that one moans of improvise the to-
wns* system, Is the perrasnevit assessment of land, with a
view to the nos-Interference of the satire dawn with the

villain." Is maslasiee, be hogged to abeam that the re-
solutioes of the sob» ant did net movide may newly far
the state of deny complained of. they manly indicated the
r pinion of the hews, end pledged their lordships to gush
nuesurn as they sight la able to take. Bat
they knew that practically they could not take
say asmares totem they proposed some great er-
go* thew, in which they would require the
0114,1111101• of the other holm of parlisonnat. la
the assiatime all they meld do was to call the attentfoa
beds of the twat awl home /overcoat to the gaestiou. Ha
wield peeves Noe attentions is the riale%soe to which
I. loped the mils sal would seassaa la the lest plea,
isseight lertott that the whets theft sheaM be
silted, sad timid therefore peeress the lemetisit M verde.
to the of.st that the reales had not grows up leader
the ladies poreraoset ; sod, secondly, that it was
wholly inhaled to our laws sad mama. Bs
wield also bulimia the °Maks of the beam,
that the awards naiad satin °Seen, fa ore of cork-
y,» Otis insaftsient Ha would neat strike eat of
the part of the »editions the sasertko that
Sedum was s II practised by legal °Seen of the govern- I
most is the 'iodisation a the ran» sad the edoistre-
ties of the criminal law thieughout twisty Dissiseii• Ica
the mead ressiatise, he wield inert wads sh..wieg that
the gresalse, altissgb eitiodap, was illegal. Per the re-
art he wield ashaltate—if the sob» earl would
permit iii---worde to las egret that that loess viewed with
great regret and dhalgothation the Tay leads/eats
punishment awerded t the pap triton a those ammo,
sad Ike ft rilkd ea ths seal and »onion a the 'even-
ness both Is this annoy and is India to 'mints» a pree-
ties which was derogatory to the goverammt, sad °diens to
the feelings of the people of Beaked.

The keniab of -CLINRIC.CEDE meld eat mune UN
But lad'. Company from tbeir slam of Os leepeasibkity
of thees aem. It was 'sly two ran km Nat lips bad
matiaried la die bands of the compeay Ne t of
Idle, mod dieuelbes lbs goverameat of leie semi tlie
Rut Inks Omagmay. And if Ise beard k alleged
that the Luna Cemgeok wa knereat of tM peestiess am-
Idolised of Is almard meet the ainerlin ebb a let
&Wei. Maw. Wag.) He amid pr.ve Ode WNW. of
the eirtramsliamm kis rye's whisk bad lima kid ea kik
lordships' table. He had not the eliglieret desk but dial
the gemsases seat is India were la liaansee el Owe pree.
dem, surrounded by the iseveab of the asseprar
belle tbeyt tit would be wiry dlNwlt to ray tbat this.
sermats were um esseiseatef tbeyearilime that veers ping
ce. (Hear. bust.)

The Ra;i of iLLENBOEOUGH tsjsieed that *to
s had boos kept before their laudahips. H. Itas
stUsalislied Mist the brats was set In it* in • divieket
he he sondiered It of the Masse hapremes tkat eves the
2= of a dillaransa et epinie•Assid bo avoidod upon
Is the own of his "obis llfa hts bad boos
otaaselad with th• 11.1111=1111011, of Leila is Ibis evestry Is.
two yens and threvitssesen, sad In lona he taw pen
ea a vaster, mashies is the whale I. Team sad
Is in that Saw he sem heard of. et had the
olOpilltatt easpleks, that thus existed the prattle.
of torture ia asp part of Isdia ; sad If be
had understood that lush a sham bad beast sada agatast
the goveranest of ladla before the bluebook ea this sub-
ject was placed on their table, he should hays asserted
that the amps was utterly without founds**. Bats fate-
Ruch ess it Ira et present certain that data prattles
has osastautly seated in a greater se less decree,
derived from our Maltosanedsa pradeeseeare, but otattaued
aerertbrlese under osr own goverantent—(hear, boas)—
it was a matter of surprise sad Feint Omitting should have
bees as amp ate a atlases ea the part of paresis wheaten
have lutetre of them practises as to keep the nbjest trout
the segaimance of those sat:waft with the sovensteat.
TIM Mato of things meet of aroswity have bees knows to
Ile selendinehn, bee Impend all (metier it was
sew Rohe hams Mt thus is a nperior palate.
lard NONTIBAOLII said that the noble awl (Blles-
benagh) had roadrred a rest esrviee to the waustry by
giving this. the hesafit of his actual esserienao in we-
sadism with the stairs of the Bast ledia Coopaay.
Tho sable duke (Argyll) had treated this_questies as it
omkodysie referred to the Prraidtney of Madras ; bat he
%sed leseneettle) took twos hiatasif very reepoatfally to
doubt Att.

Tlte Bed of BARROWBY hailed these discussion
as bsieg celesta ed to produce a 'thanes* effeet—they
served to woollies ladle sod &trope Mat the mind of Zea-
land was rot carom to those untitled ammo, while they
were a sufficient answer to a certain foreign writer who bad
retorted upon ttle tratttry that a prol•ttet attainment
maid maatesases far gusts! Alms is Italia. (Rear.) Be
was sirs that it was the wish of the govrrosseat of lads to
do away with this premise. sad also M modify, if not on-
tinily to abolish, the ryotwarry system. (Hear, hear.)
Lord CONCILBTON insisted that nothing would satisfy
the ladle& salad but the separation of the pollee mid the
mass ispastaist. The Assn OW mese disaisa