The Express.
London, England, 1860-07-14 00:00:00

PRIVATE BUSINEB&

THE WHITISH I)H.I.IVAZI-E_AHD LIIPROVEJtE.NT

Cli)lP.tiNY BILL.

Lord ST. LEONARDS thought that if this bill were
pained it ought to be didinetly understood that next Res.
won the govenimeut should propose some general legislation
on the subject.
A dtaumi.in ensued, in which Loot Stanley of Alderley,
the till of Derby, the Duke of Buceleticb, the Duke of
Marlh.nugh. and other noble lords took part, on the point
of whether the question should not be dealt with ins public,
%AMA' of a pnrate bill
The house divided
For d the adjournment. :l6

Apinst
The UM was then read a third time, and, after some verbal
amendments were introduced, passed.
The Bradford, Wakefield, and Leeds Railway ; the Great
Northern and Metropolitan Junction Railway; and the
land Loan end Improvement Company, Rills, were mverally
read a third time and
THE GALCed
' *ZIHARBOUR BILL.
This bill was read a thin) time.

LABOURERS' COTTAGES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
After WOW 000Teritti00, the boll Wei reed • .cosd
time.
JEWS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.

The Npoicor ra;;im;t:ii Nis hill uTcoMr. &Kies was
remind nod epsed tn.

INDEMNITY BILL.
This UM passed thrall& committee.
lONIAN ISLANDS MARRIAGES BILL

third On the 11300 d
00 01 Lord WODICHOOM, this bOl was nod a
time sod pawe.
RAILWAY CHEAP TRAINS BILL
This bill was read a third time sad paned
AUGMENTATION OF SMALL BENEFICES

(IRELAND).
The report of amendments made to this bill w received
UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES ESTATES HILL.
The srueoihneata to this bill were reported on.
PHCENIX-PARK BILL
. .

On the motion o Lord PONIIONBT, this Lilt was rood a
third time and pained.
TEN [SON'S CHARITY BILL
. . .

The bill fjrreguiritiog---tioTaisiaZi—Of Arebbiaho
Teniaon'a Grammar School was read a third time sad
LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUPYLVIARNTAL
This bill was read a third time sod Famed.
Their lonialtipa adjourned boon after kelt•pad 7 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAY, Jul: la

(Continued from yesterday's 'repress.)

TENURB AND impßoVE3opri OF LAND (IRE.

LAND) RILL.
At a grelr to 4, the farther onaidenttion of the bill
Ille
( the motion d Yr. Canownt, the Poor Relief, Ac.
Quad) Bill,pseud through committee pro forma, in
cedar that it West be reprinted with amendments.
The sitting was suspended at four o'clock.
The sitting was resumed at sax o'clock
VOLUNTEEFLS (IRELAND).
Colonel FRENCH gave notice that on Tuesday, the 17th
bid., he would move for leave to being in a bill to extend to
Imbed all the powers, rules, and regulations which by law
were applicable to volunteers in Engbool
DEFENCES OF THE FORTH.

Mr. BLACK natal the Secretary of State for War if, ac-
cording to the communication made to the EdinburghCharn-
her of Commerce in July taut, it was still the intention of
government to pieces hatter( on Inch Keith for the protec-
tion of the trade in the Firth of Forth.
Mr. K. HERBERT replied in the affirmative.
CASE OF DR. OUNDIR.
_ .

Colonel GREVILLE asked the Judge .tilvocate whether
it was true that Dr. Ouyilir, aseiatantsurgeon, Royal Long-
ford Rifles, who was tried by a general court-martial on the
let and _al data of June last, was placed in arrest on the
10th of May last, and still remains node, arrest, and de-
barred from practising his profession, in consequence of
the finding et the court not having yet been promulgated by
the authentic.; ,sail if it was true that six field °Moen
and +even Capt.:oat of disembodied regiments of militia are
still kept under daily pay :.ual allowances awaiting the pro-
mulgation of the sentence upon Dr. Guydir.
Mr. HEADLAM answered that sonic delay had asst
airily mime after Dr. Guydir was placed under arrest be-
fore the court-martial took place - to afford the mesas of
making the requisite inquiries, and providing the faces at
the cue to the Judge Advocate, After the finding of the
court he had had two audiences of her Majesty on the sub-
ject, and it was not mail a third audience, on the Zlnil of
June, that the sentence was confirmed. On the following
day the cane with many others was sent to the Commander-
ind'hief, and he was happy to say the result was that Dr.
ltuy.lir would be released. The only inconvenient* the
officers cm the court were subjected to was that they
were to hold themeless liable to be called upoa to mash-
eider the case if so directed.

TRANSPORTATION TO WRIT AUSTRALIA.
Lord A. CHURCHILL naked the Us/ler iteaetemy at
State for the Colonies whether it wan the isteeties d her
Ifniestys government, in deference to the Imprensa with of
the coluaista, to continue the transportation of esoviets to
West Australia ; and, if Ito, when another ship would pm
sent.

•
Mr. C. FORTE* TE said there wee no intention to
make any change at present, but a earner number of con-
victs had been sent this pear than lentr and he understood
from the prima authorities that no vsel had recently been
sent out with convicts, but there was sow a sufficient number
of prisoners to sand oat, and • weasel would shortly be
chartered for the pumae of calve jieg them.
CH ABLA IS AND FAXICIONY.
On the question that the house at its rising adjo Ira
to Monday,
Mr. EINGEAKE, who was very indistinctly
beard, asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Again whether all the eight powers, as well as
Switzerland and Sardinia, had consented to take part in
am proposed coaferrnee on the sub *t of the tri.ial article
of the Degaitive Act of Vienna, and whether there was any
MYmorater tcwldlnonfereg bet
ce orwlntakeheptlcew. the
ion
to a cadereace was the danger of its seeming to give some-
thing like a recognition of what had taken place. The
Emperor of the French desired a general conference, and not
a conference formed epee the bases of the former treaties ;
bat the conference could not proceed as the assumption
that the treaty of Turin, the treaty of 24th March, was
beard on the arrangements by which the neutrality of
Switzerland and the provinces In question was secured.
Now, if this conference should succeed in its °Nettle would,
he thought, confer a great blessing on Europe, and if it
should fail, it would, even in that event, prilos a state of
things far more desirable than that which now existed, for
it would make in an emphatic manner what would then be
a recognised impossibility of pt.,,;oe resaty of Turin
contrary to the public law of Image, (ber.)
Sir It. PEEL wished to soar cue wor ensnare the noble
lord anewerwl the iluestion. fie had no wish to enter into
any lIDCW4tior, of the general subject, as he hoped before
the "NI of the wavion it would be fully gone into. The
quevtiou, however, of a conference was now decided, and
be hoped that the noble lonl and the powers of Europe who
bail given their *meet to it would me that the rights of
Elentzertand—the pony interested— should be fully
recomunel. Fr,iiice hail domed that Switzerland bad any
right in the matter. Me hie! awerted 41,...,r and over
again
thmeatat Sw
that
ght
the one side and be made between FianceSanlinis on the oth
Prrusn er ; on
the powers 14 Europe At,,,tri,„ R but •
sad also England, bed decided to the tram; hew.) And the deepatob of the scolds lover whwhichwas( upon
the tabk—the despatch .ii the 24th April - , wee a oust ener-
getic
recapitulation of the whole :salon. Wear, hear.)e
It was an admirable deapatch, and he hoped the 'wide lo sad the powers of Europe would act up to the eentimeate
. it °attained. ALoail cheers.) Frame had &said that Swit-
zerland should have anything Si. do with the questing.
She had endeavoured to negotiate directly with
Switzerland, but Switzerland had very wisely refused to
have anything to do with Fresno apart from the other
err But now France wished it to be understood that
the invitation to attend the conference had come from her,
and not from Switzerland. That was not the
came ; the fact was the revere& (Hear.) Tb• invitation
came from SwitverLuid and net from Prance, and it was
eso recognised by the powers of Europe. He hoped France
would not he allowed to take credit to herself for having
assembleil this conference. (Hear, hear.) As France bad

denied to Switzerland any portion of the neutralised pro-
vinces of Chablis and Faucigny—because, as she contended,
universal suffrage had given them to France—he (Sir R.
Peel) begeed to state that the whole operation of that uni-
venal garage was false and fallacious. (Hear.) There
were 30,000 electors-30,000 adults—capable of exercising
the elective franchise in those two proems,. About 22,00 D
voted in favour of Frame, but only a very few weeks before
12,000 of the most respectable inhabitants of those same
provinces publicly and without any pressure declared that
they were entirely in favour of =on with Switserland.
(Hear hear.) To go into • conference and say they would not
admit of any diminution of property of one power
because universal suffrage had given it to another,
I was a false and improper ground to go upon,
and he hoped the powers of Europe would not submit to
the degradation of accepting from France • position so
unjust. (Hear, bear.
Mr. B. OSBORNh, after reading the despatches of the
noble lord (J. Ruses ), must say that he had
Science in the way in which he had conducted tiretti:n
affairs of this country. (Loud cheers.) He only uttered
the opinions of the public at large when be said that after
reading those despatches they might with perfect saf
leave the foreign affairs of the country in the noble lords
hands. (Cheers, and " Hear, hear," from Mr. Scully.) That
was his opinion, although the honourable and
learned member for Cork seemed to doubt it.
There was a very grave statement made last night by the
hon. member for Bridgewater—and every statement made
by him was well worthy the consideration of the house—
that at the interview which took place between the Emperor
el the French and the Emperor of Austria at Villafranca,
the Emperor of the French made a proposition to the
Emperor of Austria that if the latter would assist in ex-
'ng the French frontier over the Rhenish provmos,
the Emperor of the French would give up Lombardy to him.
It was quite evident that the hon. member for Bridgewater
had extraordirary means of obtaining knowledge on these
subjects. He wished to ask the Secretary for Foreign.
Affairs whether he was aware that such • pro-
position as that to which he had just alluded
was ever made! He (Mr. Osborne) of course
had no means of knowing how the bon. member for Bridge.
water (Mr. Kinglake) obtained that knowledge, but he did
know that the hon. gentleman obtained information of the
inteedel annexation of Savoy before it was communicated
to government or to any other member of the house. He
(Mr. Osborne) should have supposed that the only person who
could have given him that intern ation was the Emperor of
Austria. He should have supposed that if there was a
person in this country who could have given them informa-
tion on the subject, it was the noble lord the Secretary for
Foreign Affairs. He therefore took the liberty of putting
this question, in doing which he would repeat that he had
the fulled confidence in the manner in which foreign affairs
were conducted by the noble lord.
LonlJ. RUSSELL—I can easily answer with regard to
the facts of the case, so far as they are within my own
knowledge. With regard to the question put by my hon.
friend, the member for Bridgewater, my bon. fnend seems
to think that certain powers have consented to take part in
the proposed conference. Now the way in which the
matter stands is this. The house will see fromio
the jag :
presented
that the French government have proposed
different plans of reconciling the 92nd article of the treaty
of Vienna with the treaty of Turin, and a conference is one
of these modes. The French government, therefore, have
not summoned a conference and asked the powers to join it.
But they have proposed one of these three modes. Now, her
Majesty's government have no difficulty in saying that they
accepted the compromise as the beet mode of settling this
subject, but it does not appear, as far as we know, that any
definitive answer has been given by the other power, of
Europe. We have been told—of course the answers do not
come to um, but to the French government—we have been
told that both Austria and Prussia hesitated on the subject,
and that though there is an answer from Russia, saying she
is willing to accept the proposal fora conference, it is not •
formal and definitive answer on the subject, therefore at
present there is no summons from France for the purpose
of a conference, and it is not certain at present that the
other power have consented to that mode, though I believe
they all say that if • conference is summoned they are
ready to send representatives to it. With regard
to the second question of my hon. friend, whether
there is any preliminary understanding between the powers,
the French government have stated from the beginning
that they think the only basis can be, that the powers
shculd endeavour to reconcile the 92nd article of the treaty
of Vienna with the treaty of Turin. That seems to us
and the other powers to be the proper basis. It allows
every latitude for other powers to state their views, and
therefore I imagine no other bean will be proposed. As to
the observation which I have heard more than once in this
house, that France has proposed to tie down the other
powers that there should be tgeorition made with re-
prd to the surrender of any Savoy, no attempt has
been made by France to bind down any other power on this
subject. But France has said that if such a proposition—
[The noble lord here turned his back to the gallery, and the
remainder of the sentence was consequently inaudible).
With regard to the statement made by the hon. member
for Bridgewater last night, as to what took place at the in-
terview between the Emperor of the French and the
Emperor of Austria. What happened there could only be
known to those two sovereigns. I believe there was no
other person present at that interview. We have received
various accounts more or leas official with regard to the
general sulstanoe of what passed at that interview, but
we have not received any account that the proposal alluded
to by my hon. friend was made. I have heard the story,
but I do not know that there is any authority for it.