The Express.
London, England, 1856-07-09 00:00:00

NAVAL OFFICERS.

Corsi' SCOBELL rise, pursuant to notice, to move
that, in the op ti ea a f ths MIAS*, the cusednatagens posi-
tion of the c•-isioe, ceonianders, liest• nate, and :nesters
of the Itioyel H. spq.l, t Grernwoch, and of the retired cap-
tain under the orders ia usual of 1840, 1861, and 1856,
and of the senior comanoders and lieutenants of for
Mejesty's navy, is en rtoy of the early and favour-
able nand. vtion of the Braid of Admiralty. To-
morrow we were about to welcome beck to London
the IT gips who hod been e-ssited in • two years' war ; be
did au begrudge them tin (maims, bat I. was about to
bring under lac tine the cue of men who had Flee through
• twenty years war. They were officers 'nutted to Green-
wich Hospinl, so rapt Are, lieutenants, sod commanders,
but they were is ere: ipt of not half pay, .]though the
Imogene sad liftmen .14 meenor received bell-pay is ad.
dahlia to then Wanes of 2,0001. sod 1,0001. odd a year.
The Ina of whom he spoke had served their weeny In
every quarter of the globe ; they were 18 in number, and
whale some tad lent • leg, is arts, or an eye, not any were
without women .41 their Indies received while fightimg the
banks of their neatly. Os ma average they could not find
18 ma en. t a I e, ai. ento." lie reel or who had served or re
aneritorieusly nada the Bnthh hi, sad he wee confident
that in pinches the cause of such men be thread obtain the
support 11.11,1 sympathy or toe h. we. Is the middle of last
ye.r they memorialised the Admiralty on the subject of
thew shame, but rho Admiralty at chit time erroneously
thought that line was an order to toenail prohibiting the
Payment ed keit pep to officers so slatted, and they rej need
the claims. la January last they memorialised the Ad.
011911 seethe and the eon.', thee returned was that the
reined Gould cot bee melted with at proeset." About
sin week. ass they me or orialind a third time, and the
newer returned was cold sod oneiai is the intrems;
it was Nested of count, sad the muntotiaUsta
had Judson him to being their case before the bouts as the
the wart of last &owl. (Hear, hoer) B. would now
advert t 3 the stnentents ointeined in the memorial, and
eadancin to len fy the bean of their correctness. In the
year 1864 • rum, mowed for by the tete
Kr. Hume, showed the nitwits sad emoluments
received by the oaken of Glnnwieh H-npitsi.
The gamma received 4,2181 and the leateant-goveroor
1,2.561 • year, ruled's,/ tub halt pay ; but the entails
oily resolved 4661. Interiors every soiree of utelancat.
The cioesmamders ro vivre! 3631., the lienteasets 2751., and
the muter. 2461. Os the other bend the that lains and
surgeons were alio ...id and their allowance
moaned to 6001 sad 6-501 per annum. Why was this t
Why were th- gallaat sett denten g men. whom net he
was nowise. treated differenoy from that above sad
below them I (Hew, home.) He would now tell the
hosts sometaieg about their nerviest. These 18 'satin:en
had served We Ingres ito of a thousand pests, or, on
tee average, 66 years *sell, and they had pingo
them 42 wounds sad 30 medals and clasps. Then
sea, he bad already observed, wen poor and bad
families Th.y hid moat of them to borrow messy to
furaish their ressararer, sad they often deed beam they
could pay off the debt. Teter widows were frequently too
poor _to administer to their et', sad sabscriptioes bad
ass to be go: up Sin their aid. A. to the meant is which
they lived, lot the Firs Lord of the Admiralty only g 3 dome
to Ormawica sad dean with on of them. (Hew.) He
trusted the hoses world look nen this natter la • vast.
dusts sad sympathises, spirit; for thou poor gratlemen
were proem oat, aged nee sod their feeling, wen very sea.
Last year • gailsat sentlenna brought forward
the cue of Ceptain D clauses. He (Captain Scebell) spoke
to lam, and bto seed, If parliament refuse my request it
will be she death of nes.' house did roles* it; the
bee. soatkatan's morns was njested by a mid wity of one—
(boar, Iner)—aod within • mariath Captain Diektason was
deed. He (Captain Connell) wowed the% the present motion
would meet with better nuns. P. whet was the one with
snit *enacts ? Clerks in the emblic ellen were allowed to
retire with perierms. of 7001, 8001, or 1,0001 • year. The
Loveoot tbe Admiralty were allowed to draw their ball-psy
as well as their tonnes ; sad Indeed, se far se he scald
aseertaus, the officers at Oneawich seemed to be the only
exceptioas to the talc. (Hsu) The metros had also re-
ference t 3 the belf-pay or ether naval oaten beside. tho e
at Orsoawich. The retired li.t of saptains eousisted of
100 names, to which 144 new nes had lately
beea added. Thou laser noticed 10e. 6d. par diem,
or jut Suwon mere than ihey bad before. Cap-
tains is this Davy ranked with ooloaeb la the army, sad
the half-pay of wen latter • es 14.. 6d. ad Ise 6d. Why
was that ? Pimply because the army was better rewound
Is both liouws thaa the navy. By • warrant of last year 60
miatary oaken wan al owed b retire oa full Tay; bat
there was aothies of that bled is the other salvias. (Hear,
hoar) Arno, the commandete list comtaised 661 offictrs,
of "nom 342 w re mionployed ; aad of thous at least tore-
third., the beet ales is the oervint, would be anon
meals. The reserved 11.1 comprised 97 o Boom whose=
ef envies sailed from 40 ti 66 yean. They had 72
mugs them, sod they wen •11•••• um a day. The 100
retired erimmatidats (1 wheat 60 had medals) wore allowed
Os. Id. • day. or halt snows len than me jot is the fray,
with wham they won equal is reek. There were so fewer
thee 246 who oily bad 7.. a day. There were amends of
GOO retired that, ante, 44 whom a few mooned 7s , 120 of
them bed 6c, but the nut had sal, 6e. Yet they were
Ore 'gneiss( unsise is the army and the marina, who all
reeeivaa 7.. He (Carole Booby.) had aka the trouble
to aturp.ro 20 modern heaths eats with 20 old owe. Is the
former he kited °all s3me 74 years*serviet unman them*.
heathen benne c amide's The loiter who mono( amass
all &Mtn, Whine, Thempions and the like, bad served an
aggregate of 700 yeas ; eh, tremor had tliree medals, the
Uttar test meta. (Hear, hear.) Boca was the system. He
(Captain flonith) did not human to avow that if he hid
W no other mesas than the plane. be seselved from the
omMot, he should base been half-statved. (Hear, heat.)
Be wont. now leave the cue in thorned/441hp house, ro
utinize them that from beeeefortb, 11 the bluetits of
which he complained was sot redressed, the respossibility
would rest with them (Hest.)
8 r 0. STRICKLAND wooded the soda. Orislaally
the Lords of the Admiralty were not allowed loin. their
half-pay ; but sone yeast ego • sainting asenmry to the
bond fond out that, by • 'kill's! smaegunat of aids of
pasliameot, It might be held Infer to show it thus. That
was in the good tYot Tory dap, sod she saly won they al-
lowed their har-ply from that time, but they toothed their
11/10•10. He (Kir George) wee mt. reed that the beck pip,
smusistimg to 60.0001 or 70,00 W ,was charged to the sosoaat
of the Ply en Qs • h beer heater. (Hear )
Admiral WALCOTT sold in had visited Gralawish
Boni's] for the purpose of ohttining inforssatios on this
gamine. Be had somalted with Admiral Gordis. the
wernor, were espreesively remarked to b in, Here I am.
IWeicoutt, without a leg; then le another driver ia the mmo
coaditios. Why have I my bat -pee, and be has not ha 1"
(Hoer, hear.) He ci'atanded tbat the half-pay was Inn
ter go d and meritorious Taw tervicet, sot for felon ser-
vices; sod on this ground ' • Admiralty wen sot jostilled
fa ninth, halt pay to the class of officers referred to. La
the profvegant was • poor ose, very few officers had any-
deism buried their pay. They were placed is an empty
bust •t Ormawnh, mid they bad to beierow awry to
famish It. It they died bete,, the knitters was redeemed,
It ow sold by the creditor, end their families might starve.
Why sheold the rumor sad Isseemarit-goveraor naive
them hall-Vey whea it was refused to other Wein, who had
infonaut duties to discharge la lands, after the pea-
Loses. t Al to the deuce of coneidontisa to add idiom
in the "tee, he thought ambles mild be Min
Of the donne of a nation than the rainmal of mob holoutts.
(afar. beer) He earnestly importuaMlfile non Loud
of the Analt•lty to take this outijost inn Onsiffilealisin.
Si, C. WOOD se.d that a reolorkelde bed takes
plate to the feeling of the roue
es them slue he
had bad the h or • seat is peeithimeat. Ike
boom had e se raised a considerable rostra mil 110lOMIMI and
military expeaditaro. Now, matins were luntat limward,
sight star sight, for • cooed. nil. iambs elide ',yew&
tan; sad .he duty wee east upon the mut of read-
ies then amnion, sad checking %ha Illevrelne iscreme
sf
expenditure. And then mottoes were sot mode apse
'enrol new or the whole subject, bat with • view ee the .seasteste of some partunaav sad ladivldisal elves, to wham
jartist could hardly be done without tab% tato essuidem&

ties the claims and eirestesitaaets of others. The boa. sad
gallant goothisean bad testy stated that meted& Atom in
the navy, ot *gust rank with officer. in the army, did not re
olive precisely the same amount of pay. Bat he entirely
forgot the fact, that seines in the army purchased their
comniimions, and that • certain portion of their pay might
be rep ,trded es interest upon that purchase-mosey. It was
to.. that the. did not apply to the saris's.
Captain SCOBELL—N.r to the Artillery and the En-
gineer..
Sir C. WOOD sold he had heel lintels mote es periencela
thou mat,er.. He remembered, • long while ego, • motion
being brought Lirward rerpectiog the hardehips of the
11•11/11264. In answer it was netted that they were better
paid than the officers of the navy of the correepondiog
rank; ttttt teeing they asked for an improvement is
their endition. Now, the hoeonrab'e and gallant
gentleman took the other side, and said that the navy was
aaderpaid, compared with tr • army and the mariner. Bat,
as he said before, they ought sot to take up individual
eases, but to take • g I view. As to the first else, that
had beta brought under the swine of the house—the eap-
taloa, commandere, &a , at Greenwich Handal—he an-
Willy could ntt diennt from the character which the hos.
gad gallant striations bad given of these offimen. From
the governor town to the master last appo.nted, they wen
all care lest and meritorious officers ; and if they were
nand in review, not one would be found who had dose and
suffered more in the cause of their country than the go-
vernor and the Mut-pant-gen root. The governor had re-
ceived tee of thou, mot very numerous, bat valuable boons
which were connected with the serene ; and, considering
the heavy and responsib!e duties which he had to
perform, he did not think that the appointment he
held and hie half-pay together were more than •
rallicient remuneration, and he should be sorry to vein any
reduction. (Hear, hear.) But it was • different thing to
env that there ought to be the same high grit. a for all the
often employed then. The hon. and gallant gentlemen
seemed satirely to forget the different, between' payment
for aetual services end the retirement for past services per-
formed llog ago. The chaplain and surgeon., as well es the
governor and linvenant-rovernor of Greenwich Hoepital,
were employed actively, hour by hour, in the performance
of their duties. The surgeons of Greenwich Hospital were
lot app .inted to their offices as • retirement for pest ger-
vices ; they had to eserciss their surgical skill and know.
ledge on the invalids and pensioners of the hoapitaL It
might be that some of them had
blood is the service of their country; but they
were appointed for the performance of votive duties.
Some 23 or 24 rue ago, an act rit parliameet was passed
regulating the ea ariu of the governor and lieutenant gover-
nor, whin were flied low on amount of their having half-
pay. A mistake bad been made as to the actual eulogist re-
seised by those officers. If those positions were not thought
desirable, his Si. would not be BO full of applications r
them. The ditties were of a very trifling character ; and
where any tetra duty was required, finial payment was
made. The Ealf-pay of • vice admiral was 6931. a-year ; a
captain of Greenwich Hospital received 4001. • year, anti
had apartments found him, which might be north 24
Runes' a week. On this estimate the emoluments of a
captain at Greenwich Hospital amounted to 6961. a year, or
21. a year more than the half-pay of a via-admiral.
Catania SCOSELL—No, no ; I have the return here.
Sir C. WOOD—So have I. (A laugh) Adding the
allowances to the 4001., it amounted to 6961. The half pay
of • rear-odmirel was 4661. • year; the retired *Bowmen
of a commander In Chthowiels Hospital were worth 4921
A lieutenant In Greenwich had 4221. • while a
captain in the navy had only 36M, and a retired captain's
half-pay was *sly 2641. This comparison showed that the
allowances wore on • very liberal scale. It was not in the
power of the Admiralty without the sanction of the
Treasury to grant thee* clime half peg ; sod ft wee • mis-
take to an that it had been derided in • mart of law that
half pay wad timely • reward for put movie's, and net •
retainer for future serviem. The fact wu, it was both, and
bad been so recognised by the courts. These officers at
Oneswieh limpital had never yet remind half pay ;
and it wee the rale of the service that half pay
should not be given along with allowances for
service's. Were this motioa acceded to, many
ether oaken receiving allowances might pat in a similar
clefs. With reepeet to old commanders, the bon. and
gallant gunthmeet named to have forgotten that upwards of
11,0001. had :Wentz been voted by the boom for additiosal
pep te this else, of Moen; but it had been sacutaleed that
eat of spiterie ef SW very few iodise' ware entitled to the
aidideael Massages propoe' d to be gives. From the
mamba of Stalemate crested in the last nano( the war, ft
was imoossiblee that they should al' be promoted; they had
bee* made lieutenants for their services in the my; and
very few of them bad rendered any services Mae& He en-
tirely agreed that ft was most desirable that all AMPS of
officers should be properly rewarded. The old oilmen had
received their half pay for 40 years without settles; sem-
Mosel mgmentatioss had bees made; and be saw no result
why any farther increase should be wade is their half-pay.
He had actually done more for the asatmadere than they
asked is their memorial; and he thought the hove ought
not now to be calied on to plan them In a won favourable
p lonian
Bar C. NAPIER said the naval lonise( the Admiralty had
WIN time ago made a dispensing order is their own favour,
cabling dorm to receive their half-psy in addition to their
salaries. If the principle was right in their cue, why should
it nut apply to all often? The comparison of the right
he.. harmed between via-admiral aced septa/us at Green-
with was not • fair one, because the former were es the
active list. He knew of no officers except those at One--
wish who did cof receive their half. pay in addition to their
salaries. They were in a mat pitiable position; they
were placed in largo apartments wittiest a shilliag la
the world ; sad • large:expenditure was unavoidable. Oen-
ral of them officers had received many and severe wounds,
and Me reward they got wag too little for all they suffered.
He could not on any just monad for the dirinction which
wee made between the higher and the lower officers, except
that perhaps the firmer had wore aflame to push their
Interests at the Adairait). The advantages of Ortwawieh
Hospital were estimated higher than they ought to be.
The lefties. were animated at 2} guineas a week, bet en
°Hoer meld get excellent lodgings elsewhere foe 60/. • year.
He thought the miserable pittance of half-pay should be left
to the officers, is order to rescue them and their families
from the miserable position in which they were placed.
As Rote. Mamma here moved that the house be
emsated, when 40 member trendy were lined tabs present.
Mr. M. CHAMBERS said be rejoiced that inefficient
tenet wee takes in the subject before the boon to Haire
the easedata of 40 neaben. (Laughter.) He wished merely
to ebeene, la reply to the statement of the right hoe.
patinae, that the salaries of the oaken is Greenwich
limed were paid flea the private kale attached to the
aced it wee espffiriegbat nee that, bermes that
as w fie, the nation wee netts asses* of their half pay.
Ho was gad that the Min sf the optellaa imamaaden, sad
liestesests had been dieelliMad, beano he was convinced
the moms' the goverment Ink tato seesideratioe the
Judea of their elsia, they maid de all the malodor' ailed
ea them te do. (Hear.)
Hiptela SCOBELL, la tegfp, asemplalaed of the told
=la which the right lea. geathemea had received the
lbw olleere, mazy of whoa bad net • piney to lay
their Wade ea. He wee glad that ao naval lord attempted
take* the meaner in which they were treated.
A lIIRKELEY said that the hoe. patleaaa wee
astieselied swag that his right hoe. blood had tasted
the me of these officers with coldness. Hie right hm. Inmost
me es essloss ft any other mart to me naval plan pro-
peel, rewamied, and to give Huta ma thereon of lames is
their old age; bet he bed • public duty to perform, sad
that public duty obliged him to leek at the subject, not le
ea belated point of new, but BS a Mick. It wee sot cornet
to say that them sheaths. were net (revolted, because there
were amen ! epplicatiess foe each cue that became meant.
He and hardly say, for himself, that he wee so maim as
:fairizsaa wield be to promote the kite's.' of the saved
; but he mut say he did net think the mad sham
was well founded.
The holm thee divided :

31
Against
LIEUT,COLONELB IN THE ARMY.
Coleus! LINDSAY, to movie" that utilisable address be
ilpresented to her Majesty, prayies that she meld be ora-
-1 closely pleased to take Leto essaiderstion tlio lajory fa-
MAIN so thee, lieutenant eoloaels of the army she &Mined
that teak betire the 20th day of Jens 1864, and
who had bees seprreeded by the retrelpeetim ad
ties of the wettest of the 6th day of °ember, 1864,
mid that previous to the warrant of the 6thof ()atelier, the
primipal If set the solo °Nest wee to obtain the reek of
lieetessatmlovel, from rebiab sll the Mew reeks la the
army spring. Up to tbet raak all the grade* of the army
were parobaseable, but beyond that they were obtsised by
brevet. TM readier feature of the eM system ma this,
that once as eau, beemnelMiseemonlbeeMeed from that no
orlon mold pees over his bead ea the blear reeks unless
ter the ireful mete of dielaguirbed itemises or aide-de.
cum to the Qmea. The Ina sod /Watt Wiser was thee
pmeeedlao to state the prooldem of the toys/ wettest of
the Sib of October, 1854, end thebeedeldp Whined by it
athe oaten erse ewe be neseardevn br brion berm the
house' at whe
An BON Z reeved that the bean be emoted.
Forty members not beteg prima', the beam adjourned at
aim etleek.

Lord Stanley, M.P., has raceented to provide at aI
swan wltlob is is be lmial to morrow, at Willie's Rooms,
for the pompom of ferthrrleg a pearal half-holiday oa
Saturdays, sad lb. smiler payment of vases.
A Theological College at Sydoey hes been sets-
MUMS, aad the Rae fialginn, MA., Moembeat
el Intim, astir Amloloside, hie hoes appoirtsd Pried*.
Lord floatage has ted the Rec. 0. W.
Watson, M.A., so the of MAW, seer
amiskales.
The Archbishop of Canterbury has presented the
Rey. L. B. White, M.A., MIAMI 7.n ewof Clesoe's
OaArd, mod east* of TAMA Itarh, Maltatok, se the
ismalreaoy of Trinity %ore
Mr. J. I. Mechi, the sheriff sleet et tie (St y at
Leaks. ham swat tol the Rev. IthAsed ILA.,
s.. of lb. stamen in Mersheat Tasks? firssf ariereses
Maurer at B*. Sepulchre's, eel wake keterer at It.
Pekes, Corolla', t be lus_ohspiela s end Mr. Almada
Conley, etheitor, of 34. Lerakeed.mreet, hooker et eir
Charles D. Crater, Isla sheriff to M his saitivehartl Sot
W pler of hit shrievalty.
On Beads ammo were puesima at eight of the
awa mar all ititagr Prestryterke
Chorea. Derwega rest. I chtlfeithe Glenn Am-
alsisa. Mini part et s earlesatilignammt . •

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JULY 9, 1858.

Vbe expregigi.

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granting that at first sight the suggestion does not
appear to be an unreasonable one, we will ven-
ture to predict that the more it is examined
the more unnecessary and unpopular will the
establishment of two sees in this metropolis
become. The sound principle, we are convinced,
for the Church itself, is to regard the Act of 1840,
with its subsequent modifications, 1111 a permanent
settlement of the English episcopate and dioceses se
to number, and not to be continually proposing the
creation of new sees. Those who know bishaps best
know very well that they are by no means over-
worked personages; few of them have business
enough to require • resident secretary's aid ; none
hold visitations more than once in three years ; and
the extent to which church building and endowment
has of late years been carried is evidence enough that
we do not require more bishops to stimulate the vo-
hintary principle amongst the laity of the Church.
The population of the diocese of London is no doubt
large; but the extent of its territory is small, the num-
ber of benefices and of clergy is not proportioned to its
population, the faci titles ofoommunioation are unusually
great, and the moral and intellectual condition of the
diocese generally is very high. AU these are conside-
rations which are adverse to the idea of dividing the
see of London.

The true way of meeting the cue of London
appears to be in another direction. Confine the
diocese to the metropolis simply ; cat away all the
country parts which now belong to it, give them
to other sees, and make the Bishop of LONDON
Bishop of the Capital only. But infuse life and vi-
gour into the Cathedrals of Westminster and Bt.
Paul; place their Deans really and substantially
ender the Bishop's directions and control; make
them his sabordinuate fuotionaries ; assign districts to
their dependent care and supervision. If that be not
adequate assistance, go farther; increase the num-
ber of Archdeacons in the diocese; pay them;
make them effective aids to the Bishop. In short,
organise the See of London before you talk of dividing
it. That done, we shall have no need of two Bishops
in the Metropolis, one presiding in the East over its
poverty and its squalor, the other associated in the
West with all its pomp and its wealth ; the Eastern
Prelate living oat of society, in a house in White-
chapel, which the other would scorn to midi in;
the Western Prelate with a palace at Fulham and a
hotel in Bt. hmes'e-equate which the wealthiest of
our temporal pens may envy. No; that would be a
step backward in Ecclesiastical Reform. Better far
stand firmly by Lord JOHN Russat.t.'s Aot of 1840.

iMmo