The Express.
London, England, 1859-08-03 00:00:00

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the two governments would content to it, might be effectual;
bat he wished to remind the house that ibis country had never
allowed• foreign power to exercise jurisdiction within its terri-
tory. If you gave thepower to the consul youmcutgivehint the
aid of the civil power both fee arrest and for custody, in that
in soy case be would be exerdsing criminal jurisdiction under
the English law. He would no doubt follow the Eighth
law, and have an Englieh Navistar for assessor, and awo-
ke, It would resolve itself into an application of the Englialt
law. However, emanite concurred in the sentiments expressed
by Mahoaoureble friend, and he thought the subject ens well
wonky the consideration of the house.
Mr. HENLEY said that the subject was one of the deepen
impertanoe. No doubt many offences were committed in
American skips coming to England, and most probsteTy a
airailernumber were committed in American ships going home.
He wished, thereion, that the hen. member had told theta
whether there had been any or many theist of such cases I.
the American courts, se tneir number would be iticadruide
as to the attention with which a proposal of red mi-
=Mal jun/died* would probably be received to UMW
Staten At to the expediency of such a plan, they moot re-
member that if they adopted it with ens nation they could
hardly refute it, to another, end then it would become • ques-
tion whether they would like to submit English subjects to
the tender mimes of an Austrian, Spueleb, or Russian police.
The eassular plan involved the putting our persons at the
disposal of the Meer of a foreign power. The question was
enntemded with diffienklee, but the bon. member had acted
judiciously in bringing it before the Imam
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the subject had
eagsgod the attunes of the law Menu of the crown for
saw time, both rider the primenligeetnareest god its pre.
ilseamma: lt hat been the desire of both gel cements to
come* sews t with the United States, but the
difficulty was that this goverment mold sagge4 no exp•
dlent but that of submiteng the oases to the ordinary civil
authentic* of the country. To the tropesition of giving lace-
dal authority to the consul, be (the Attorney- thew* and
his colleagues had always glees the most strenuous owed-
tint. u kb never could consent to remove tbe criminal juris-
diction from the ordinary tributals of the country. (Hear.)
But then • reciprocal arrangement might be established,
and it was no objection to it that other nations might ask for
what was coned to the United States. The arrangement
could only be minted out in terms of perfect
equality, and them terms could not be complied
with except by a country whom forms of mi-
nded procedure were the same as there of England. With
respect to giving authority to the consul, nahMg was more
common than for an American captain, on arrineg at Havre
or some °this centinened port, to go at once to his consul,
charge his whole crew with mutiny, sad have them all de-
Wind in prison until he waa again ready for eat
There were three points to which he nutted the
stenten of the authorities would be directed.
Fire, the facilitating of the working of the extradition treaty,
now so expensive; second, to provide • reciprocal jurisdiction
for caste not included in the treaty ; and third, the pond-
Wily of establishing a summary juriediction in cares of die-
' prate under apt of contracts. He mentioned these matters
to show that he bad not overboked the subject, and be
earnestly hoped that the address would be productive of some
satisfactory arrangement.
Mr. MILNES, in reply, expressed his gratitude for the
manner in which government had received his motion. With
respect to the number of trials in America he would remind
the riirbt hat. member oppieite that there was a
great difference in the crews of inward and outward
bound ships. There was no difficulty in getting eallam to go
be. Europe to America, but in moaning ships to return to
Vamps there 1.788 fierce competition, an exteneive crimping
system wee earned on, and much cruelty wee practised. Ha
hoped his Wands in the government would not overlook the
cue of the murderer, who was now at large because the
authorities of this country had no power to secure him. The
powers of the extradition treaty, which were now exchudvely
confided to the metropolitan magistrate, should be extended
to the etipendivise at Liverpool and the other seaports.
The athletes was then agreed to.
RIGHTS OF THE CROWN IN FORESHORES, &o.
Mr. AUGUSTUS SMITH moved for a select committee
to inquire into the rights es claimed by the crown anti other
bodies connected with the foreaboree, tidal rivers, Weariest,
and the bed of the sea round the coasts of the United King-
dom; the various proceedings instituted of Lite years by the
officers of tee mown with respect to the same; and to mar-
lain and report to the home whether any and what legialw
ton might be required for defining the said rights, and for
securing and protecting those of the public and individuals.
TN hoe. niemb, r quoted in support of his motion the
observant,* of Lad Derby made in 1867, when pre-
senthic • petition to the Lords on the ea= subject.
Hs bold that the mown wee nothing more than the melee
for the public for the purpose of securing to them all the
advantages that could accrue from such property. This
view wen confirmed by the dictum of Lord Hale, Judge
Bailey, and ItVIITaI other learned judges. But the crown had
exercised its functions of late years es though the property
was held in im own right, and in • manner which exposed
the public to great inconvenience. This was evident from
the suits instituted against the corporation of London with
reference to the fareehores of the Thames, and from other
suits instituted against other public bodice in reference to the
right to the toreahores of other rivers. . . . .

An lioN. MEMBER here moved that the bones be counted,
and there being only 38 members prawn; the house stood
adjourned at a quarter peat eight.

Mr. Spafght himself pretended that be could not. He would
call before them Major Gavin, the Mayor of Limerick, the
stipendiary magistrates, and the returning officer, who
would prove that the election, during the polling at least,
wan conducted throughout in a moat peaceable and orderly
manner.

Kr. Russell, the present member, said he was et the last
Limerick election, when he was a sucoeminl oandklate.
Never heard of my riot, or of any voters beion obstructed.
Re heard, however, very little of what took place in the
attsata at all.

Mr. Watson, Mayor of Limerick for four years, and for
'Tarty half a century a magistrate, said, during the loaf
oh choir he was preterit all the dry. The people were moat
',dot and well behaved. There was not the least obahucticm
to any vote, polling. Ile even remarked to Mr. figeighthow
gild and orderly the people were. From his explem of
Limerick idealises for the last half century he never bow
• more orderly tee, se for as regarded the conduct of the
people. There were more people polled than ever polled at
any previous contest, No man or voter ever called upon wit-
Zeno, to protect hie,.
On mope-examination witemis admitted that be was not
aware of what took plate beyond his precincts, in which there
were three polling broths.
Other evidence was taken attempting to chow that witness
was not on good term with Mr. Bpaight, bat thin Mr.
Watson moat positively denied.
The committee adjourned,