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London, England, 1859-03-23 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 23, 1859.

would last, and he mike' whether this bill met de relate.-
nista. Looking at it with refereses loth° Ware, he mewed
it with slarm everything being sacrifice' Is uniformity.
He dwelt ups the mackievotte COMMlKessoas whist
would. I. his °patios, Bow from the adoptba of thle novel
principle. By whet ICU it reeonsmandri V Was it pos•
olbls to expect that the t. rough frenchiee mild be male-
teined at 101. ? Then the sAme tun of the ecrow that took
down the borou,:h frou.hooa would ridure that for the
county. He had no party übjio,t to opposing the bill end in
voting for the amendment. Ile felt that there wan danger
is the propaition ; lost be wanted Wale substitute ; he wanted
to get e I II framel on a ..I.fferent principle. The holee did
not knew what the gerecnment coneider,l the principle of
their tell, nor which of the two parts of the rectolutioa would
be lute' to it. Wee tt faction. ti) sfdt them to withdraw •
till which was dietaateful to three out of the tour goalie= of
bona,, and to bring in another conetructed upon • dif-
ferent principle ? If they would do so, he promised them
awry 4,4iiitatiC4 in his ;owe?.
The •zOLICITOR-GENERAL observed, it be said that

the einentlito at tended to confuse sad embarrass tie hones in
the bete before it, he should only my that it accomplished
tie sad for which it was daslened If it meant anything
it meted that the hones should pass by the bill In order to
of en ebe'reet reeolution oa two nohow! provisions in it,
ten t inching the principle of uniformity, which was Mr.
Herbert's ',aeon for young for the amendment. He pro-
ceeded to discuss the resolaticm, sad to reply to the objec-
tion t r the bill urged by Mr. Herbert and Lord J. Russell,
opposicg to the charge of the latter, that the
MII oostatised a principle of disfranchisement, the
dignsachisieg proviwone of his own bill of 1144.
Haring disposed of them objections, he protes..ed
against being celled upon to banes them new, in-
stead of in c-ionnittes on the bill. When Mr. Herbert
talked, be mid, of the uniformity of suffrage being s sew
principle, bow long bark did be date the rate of votiag for
commie. in respect to ocespation 1 Not from the reign of
Henry VI., but from 1832 • sad there was no mem upon
principle why two freeholders on different pities of the mum
strew ehnild vitt bare a &Sinai franchiw. The bill of

1164 proposed to reduce the ecouty banyan to 10f. ; but
it wee said that there must not be the same franchise
lee beesestia. Then, the ant Wog would be •
emanate of the process, Main the county frame
ebbe,, sal the borough hackies lower still, like •
Duel action. He admitted thst the working clesese had
inroad la (dentine and istellignem, bet they adobe
pond In their eiranoitaseesi and this would being mow
of tam late the fraschier. He treated the worMag deem'
hay, their loyalty sad their panda ; but it did antbE
him thee therefore they should have the health& The kola
knee err bead to monde foe our reprownisibro melon ea
equal Wean at all clans, and lithe freaohne lossioad
esoddrrehly below 101. body of men would be bloodomil
Into the caustitersey so numerous se to be Ale to 'Wools
sad (ally diefreacbies every other time of molom. •
Meows would to exerted epee Oa we
timers by the savings beak franchise, which wwY Imo
courage habil, of providence sad moral restraint, as • 111.1110
of riot trig the
.freachise. Many gentleman below the
Weal SWIM tbei were very anxious for ea an-
tensth of the berengb frencbier, tut walnut the
ballot they would Misr not Lave it. If the iota
lord reheisal Ns oploism, bow many of those who will
vi to ke his neMotion Iwo tuft his apportere (Hear,
hem.) Ile kit setziews to bow the noble lord's views for
eastbst terse. The boa. mother for Welaall (Mr. Forster)
bed told Ma esestitmato a bus days ago, that the noble
lord and the boa. muster far Bastagam were rowing in
the same boat. and an perfectly speed a every point.
("Hear, beer," sad chew)
Mr. FORSTER wished to explain. What be did say
wee, that the aside lord the amber for B
West naghtev)—the able lord the member forinnt sal;
the bon. member for Binaleghem were perfectly Gina is to
ha comae to be taken In regard to this bill. 'They were in
the aeon boat—that Is, they would be found Ia the same
divan lobby—end the hoa. member for Birsoisgheee
shared the being of contldesea felt in the noble lord by the
whole liberal party. (Cheers sad laughter.)
The SOLICITOH-OENERAL said ha must copra, his
obiigettees to the hoe. member for his explanation, fur it
sow turned oat that the report in • earepaper of a crowded
provincial niestlud wee exactly whet the bon. member had
stated. (Laughter.) Now, sir (continued the hon. and
leaned patinas), I moat my antics. Aa the noble
lord and the hon. menbre for Birmingham are oompletely
*grad with regard to the coarse to be teas in Maim to
thin bill, es they en to be is the seam best—that ia is the
same lobby-1 wet to bow what the principle of their
aspect span this abject hes hoes. Ben it, or hes It mg, in-
eloded vote by ballet f (Iliabeerislabores.) If It hes included
von by ballot, tam I went Whew bow the has. members
Giving shore the etandvey on the opposite side (relented to
the teraithes loreelately above the seat seeogied by Lord J.
Resta) will concur with the noble lord In the course which
be has talon open this bill ; whin, oa the other had, if this
compact hoe not Unelected vote by allot, then I want to know
his Cicala s. members who have bald their coestitnenta
that they look upon the ezkalon of the suffrage without the
ballot se amuse, sal not • Weaving. cm reconcile this decla-
ration with their voting wvh the noble lord upon his amend-
men,. (Cheers) I now take *bother quake—the
Teatime( a redotribution of cons. We all haw what
the Fromm' bill propene to do. It takes Mesa mats
frees toragbe which have two amebas at terminated jag
them to other boroughs which has no member. We all
know that in 11154 the noble toed proposed to deal with some
Arty or sixty seats; and we all know that the hon. mem-
ber (or Birseindlam Iota& to Nil with a much larger
Rumble; wUre elm memlers have &Jana to it in
their opinion • messom for extending the franchise without a
redneribution of sate le • sham. (Cheers.) Now, if the
bon. member for Birmingham and the noble lea ere quite
agreed about the COWS* they are t i take, end ere to be In
the s tea boat, I went to know whet part of their agromesat
teethes, sad how it touches, this question of a redis-
tribution of seats. (Hear, bear.) The hon. mem-
ber fir Devoepot (Mr. J. Wiles), in speaking
to-night, said that no goverameat thee could be formed
could eb- tan boas dosing with this ciwatkin of re.
farm. Well, now, it Is only fair that the noble lord should
tell the country what he proposes to do with regard to the
diefrenchisement of mate. Don't think that the country is
to be gulled by your telling them that you ere the ehampiou
of freebollers who come down from Willies the Cenower.
(Loud =inlet/yid rhea...) Tell the country what you would
dn If yin had it is your power to do it to-marrow. (Rea wed
cheer.) What emu would you distrachtee ? How teeny
electors, no matter where they come from, would yea del rive
of their votet (Chian.) Do nit conceal, in eider to catch
popular apneas ail a the preenee of being the Meader of
ester. who rally ere not braked, do not emend the deigns
that you have upon other voter* whom you wilt attack, and
whom, if it be an your power, you will destroy. (Cheers.)
The sale lord ameba, la proof of hie sincerity in pr .poring
this Grandaunt, to his well-known end long-tried attach-
meat to the ease of reform. Sir, we all know sad admire
the noble lord's aselinteat to this gentles, bet we elect
haw that there is a form of the header paion which
sometimes develop. Itself In jealousy of say attentions to the
object of effe:tion from any other quarter. (Roan of
Raba.) Sir, I think the noble lord express himself to
acem, misemetruction upon this point. We know It hoe
keen mid—
" Strong are hie hopes hie Hal to ranee,
With bisadialmiente to win the pen de's love,
To lad the faction while their zeal us hot,
And popularly prosecute the plot."
(Loud ministerial cheers.) Whether this lea. or not la the
n ible lord'. case I know at; but of this I am quite sea
that the country will ask—the country have asked already—
what are the real ietestiona of the noble lord, what
me the objects which be papas to Memel( in meeting shill
((this kind, not openly, not broadly, but by an ambigua,
and almost ithealar antendamot—(gnat ministerial cheer-
la) —an amendment which awaits nobody,lend which mesas
sothiag that is preen,. (Honeyed cheers.) Sir, the people
of this country have &flee], end they will always
differ about reform bills, about theories of reprmentatiom
about social tad domestic legislation of every kind. Bat there
is one subject open which the people of this coveny are en-
tirely arra& they (Hit like anything which bean the lasi
appearmsee of approach to an artifice, or, if I nest are a
homely phrase, to a dodge. (Lead ministerial them.) They
don't like it in besieges, and they don't like it in polities;
hot least of all will they admire it in • man who. at a time
when the bast Wines of hie country at iota, :ell
her most peaceful hopes abroad, demand all tho
petrietine, el the candour, all the forbearance
of stalenoss--;cithers)--approeches the consideration of
• great national gees. ion like this, not fairly to criticise, not
boldly toreject, bat to contrive scatty end retching device
—(immense cheering from the ministerial henehee)—to eon-
end, it may be, to dislocate perti• A, sad amid that
es.io• and dialecallua to oscura his ,an pilitioal
Meseta sad privet* advonteds. (Load sad lond.conagrold
cheers.)
Aler some brief enplaned/as from We. J. W :um
Mr. M. OIBSON sand the adjournment of the debars,
which wee the enjoined In Theteday.
The hone adjourned in bags* twelve.

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wreform sprestien A be liaiesseed at the Cowers-NA
Livernml, by tbro mesidig cos.aa of 11%4 tows. The ehair
will :am by Kr. Lawneas Heywortb, who is a main of
Liverpool.
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media sees Xosiey bie mere rewl win be •I. "Nor mal
•Yu sir Re T iss-isass from WOOPUIN Eras-
kaw • Levresee F.R 0 P., Satratary is
of Niab, wilb • thin of the river by Castile !lbe-
end Olin, R. N., T. 11.0.11." " View of the Orme Vol-
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by tbe Meseta Rebels ; by Nr lotus Davis, Ban, F. 11.0.8."
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LONDON, WEDNBSDAY, LURCH 23.

Tae resumed debate on Lord JOHN Rcssm's
Resolution, though necessarily wanting in those

points of interest which merit the opening night,
will be found not destitute of matter worthy
of serious reflection. Mr. WILSON endearoored to

persuade the occupants of condemned seats that they
need not fear to vote patriotically once more, inas-
much as there was a great difference between sen-
tence of death being recorded and execution abso-
lutely taking place. Between the finality measure
of the Government and the sweeping transfer of
power recommended by Mr. BRIGHT there lay an
infinite variety of possible compromise', in the selec-
tion from amongst which of the beat possible
. . .

one there was peculiar need of judgment
and discretion. As might have been expected,
Mr. WILSON carefully avoided committing him-

self to any particular neutral tint, bet rather pm-
ferred showing his skill in displaying the combina-
tion and contrast of hues that, as in a shot silk,

might be happily blended together by a skilful
band. All this is very fair in debate, and were
nothing at stake but the prize of office would be
very amusing to watch and observe. But we must
repeat emphatically our conviction that what is
wanted by the Liberal Party far more than any vie-
. . .

sway of the 'scabbard. It is an avowal of the belings
and motives with which the Bill has bear framed.
It is a casting of scornful defiance in the teeth of
the working classes! and a confession that all the con-
descending and gluing talk of fine and noble person-
ages during the last five-and-twenty years on plat-
forms and at hustings about the pleuare with
which they have seen the great and rapid
strides made in knowledge and culture by
bard-working men, was simply and merely gammon.
After all said and done, the great body of the people

are to be kept out of an effectual share of power,
becalm they are many, despite of all their patience,
loyalty, and thrift—all the self-denial, for prac-
tising which they have been incessantly saturated
with patronising praise, and all the indefatiga-
ble efforts at self-improvement for which their aria-

tocratic keepers have from time to time patted them
on the head. There can no longer be any doubt in
the minds of the most credulous and simple as to
what Lord DERBY meant when, five years ago, he
declared the duty of a Conservative chief to be that
"of stemming the current of democracy." Two
of his own Cabinet, the least supposed to
be addicted to Tory habits of thought, and
one of them his own son, have undertaken to
expound the Pitman's thesis; and plain they have
made it with a vengeance. We need not pause to
analyse the logic which takes for panted the mon-
strous proposition that whatever is true of America
or of France, in both of which monarchic and aristo-
cratic sanctions are wanting, mast be true of England,
where aristocracy and monarchy are powerful and
popular. Neither is it necessary we should expose
the transparent fallacy which assumes that to admit
the best and worthiest of the working classes in-
volves, of necessity, universal suffrage. All history
confutes the assertion. But for the present we can-
not help recording our satisfaction that all disguise
is now thrown off, and that in the struggle which
seems impending there can no longer be any risk of
misapprehension or mistake.

DIVISION IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS
LAST NIGHT.

MA111.4011 LAW 1111114MUNT BlLL.—ldonsd, that the
Dill be nom reed a mond time—(The Lord Wodehonse)
et ooted to; end as amendment moved, to have ont
"now" end insert "Ws day six months " —(The Vis-
COnnt Danstennon).—On question that "now" stand part
of the motion .--Cmteam, 39; Not-contenta, 49.
CONTENTS.
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