The Express.
London, England, 1860-08-22 00:00:00

TI#EEAST_INDIA LOAN HILL.

The Duke of AftCiaL, in moving Lit reading of this
MU said that id object was to empower the Secretary of
State to raise for the purposes of the Indian revenue a cer•
lain sum ie this eoustry. The noble duke entered into •
statement, from which it appeared that the whole estimated
deficit for the year amounted to 7,472,000 i. He said that
the Indian Railways would probably require an expenditure
of about 5,000,0001. in India, and 2,000,0001. in this
but it was expected that sum would be adequatelyw
met by receipt& He thought there was no chinos of any
reduction in the civil expenditure of India. The more im-
provement that was mad*the greater was the outlay in
that reipect. The revenue of India, meanwhile, had very
largely improved, to the extent of above 2,000,0001. A
further reduction in the military expenditure of the country
skis was expected to the amount of 2,600,0001., thus
the whole redeetioe on the nulitary expenditure
aliotooo,oool. The debt, he was sorry to add, bad been
largely increased by a sum of 40,111 0001. sterling, o that
it has nowreached • total of 97,851011 . That was exclusive,
as his noble friend (Lord Ifontesgle) reminded him, of any
aims which were to be raised under this bill. Thus a sam'of
4,06,0001. had become a permanent annual charge upon the
revenue, of which the sum of 2,000,0007. starling was dee to
the mutiny. This was the position at present of the ladies
revenue ; and he auxiously hoped that by some farther re-
dilations there might be • prospect of the revenue and ex-
penditure becoming equalised. Two new taxes, an Mame
tax and a license tax, had been imposed. These taxes
slight be expected to some extent to come into
operation during the year, but no credit had
been taken fur any sum in respect of them
in the votes. There were other symptoms which
pve good ground for hope of improvement. He himaelf
bed been informed by Sir GUAM Trevelyan that the prices
of agricultural produce in the Madras Presidency were
gvadually rising, mainly, be believed, owing to the measures
of the late Hoverer.' (Lord Harris), and the introduction of
the land tax and the revenue tax.

The bill was read a first time, as were also some other
bills which wen brought up from the Commons, and their
lordships adjourned at ten minutes to sir.

HOUSE OF 003llefONS.—TUIRDAY. Alwyn 21.

(Continued from yesterday', Express.)
The house went into committee on the Court of Chaucer/
Bill, and passed several clauses, when the chairman re-
ported progress, and the sitting was suspended.

The house resumed at 6 o'clock.
CORPORATION OF WESTMINSTER.
Sir J. SHELLEY gave notioe that early in the next acs-
lion he would move for leave to bring in • bill to form •
corporation for the city and liberties of Westminster, and
also that he would ask for leave to bring in a bill to amend
the Gas Clauses Act of 1847.
ROMAN CATHOLICS IN PRIMIONS AND WORK-
HOUSES.

Sir J. ACTON gays nolaiotbat early wed session be
would call the attention of the louse to the condition of
Roman catholic inmates of prisons and workhouses in
England.
NEW ZEALAND BILL.

On the order Kirthe 'wooed reading of this bill,
Lord PALM ERBTON said it was not the intention of her
Majesty'' government to press this bill any further at this
late period of the session. (Hear.) It was not that they
were doubtful, if there was time for • fair and full
discussion of the Ipfasure, that they should succeed in ne•
moving the objections which many bon. gentlemen felt
to the proposed bill, but the present state of the session
preveoted that ; and therefore the object of the bill Laving
been to protect the interests of the aborigines of New Zea-
land, her Majesty's government wen of opinion that the
powers which the constitution of New Zealand gave to the
crown of making regulations bearing upon those
interests, would, if properly used, be sufficient
for the accomplishment of the objects which
her Majcety's government had in view • but if
it should appear that those powers were inidequate it
would then remain for the government at some future
period to have recourse to further legislation on the sub-
ject. He begged therefore to move that the order for the
second reading of the bill should be discharged.
Sir J. PAXINGTON oomplaiUed of the conduct of the
government in relation to this hill, and of sane discourtesy
towards himself. The measure, in his opinion, was open to
the most serious objection.
Mr. C. FORTWUE, without entering into the details
of the bill, explained and defended its object and the
views with which it was introduced.

After some further dimension, in which Sir G. LEWIS
exonerated the government from the charge of want of
courtesy, tie motion was agreed to sod the bill withdrawn.

THE NAVAL DISCIPLINE BILL.
The house then went into committee upon the Naval
Discipline Bill, when
Lord C. PAGET explained the object and general features
of the bill, and the provisions relating to the ooustitution
of courts-martial, to the definition of crimes, and to punish.
mint*. Under the latter head the bill proposed to give
power to courts-martial to graduate puoishmeat from the
maximum penalty of death, and to find offenders guilty
of lesser crimes who were charged with greater. On
the subject of corporal punishment it was proposed that
whenever • sailer or marine should be accused of such an
offence es would make it necsory on conviction to subject
him to corporal punishment, there should be an inquiry by
one or more officers of the ship into the guilt or isocieence
of
the party. The captain would still have power to over-
rule the decision of the officers whichever way it went.
This was perhaps an extreme power and could only be
exercised In OM of open mutiny, when it was neceopary
that the captain Gf • ship should posses the most node-
puted power. I. isonenoo with this measure he had the
pleasure of reading • few etatiatice respecting capital I
punishment, which would show that this degrading custom
was year by year dying away at such a rate that
ff the house ousinued to give its support to the govern-
ment as it bad dope, he felt sure that it would soon disap-
pear altogether. In 1866 there were 65,000 man in the navy
liable to be flogged, and the number who underwent the
punishment wee 1,397, being about 1 in 39 ; in 1866 it
was 1 in 42 ; in 1867, 1 in 48; and in 1869, out of 64,000 men
only 96: were punished, being lin 67. (Hear, hear.) They '
were now educating boys for the service, who would be
attached to it, and they were improving the pay and com-
forts of the men, so that hiking everything together he
thought that the total abolition of flogging would be en
affair of no distant date. He felt great confidence in
leaving the bill in the hands of the house.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said that he had listened to the-
statement of his noble friend with the greatest pleasure.
He approved of the proposed changes in naval °milts-
inertiaL the present constitution of which was very de-
fective. He bad himself, when in office, requested Sir
Richard Dundee to draw up • scheme of retriston, and be
bad no doubt his noble friend bad Sao availed himself of
the talent and experience of that distingushed officer. He
did trust that henceforth the naval officers would be re-
leased from the hardships which arose from the preset
system of courts-martial.
Mr. WILLIAMS regretted that so impotent • subject
should have been brought forward at so late • period of the
session, and also that the question of flogging hod not hem
more directly dealt with. They should net forget that in
the last naval war one of our frigates was taken by an
enemy's ship, manned by Englishmen, all of whom had
left our service in consequence of having been flogged.
' Sir C. NAPIER could not agree with ell the points stated