The Express.
London, England, 1867-12-12 00:00:00

THE FENIAN OUTRAGE AT MANCHESTER..

MANCHESTER, WEDNESDAY.
This morning the two remanded Fenian priaoners,
William Hogan and William Pherson Thompson, were
again brought up before Mr. Fowler, stipendiary magis-
trate, and other city magistrates. The latter was charged
with being concerned in the murder of Sergeant Brett and
the attack on the prison van, in Hyde-road, on the 18th
September, and the former was charged with being an
accessory before the fact. Mr. Talbot, assistant town-
clerk, prosecuted ; Mr. Yeatman, of the Midland Circuit,
defended Hogan, and Mr. J. B. Tun defended Thompson.
The attendance of the public was not large, but, as on the
occasion of the trial of Allen and his comrades, the side
galleries were kept entirely clear, and only those who
won the favour of the police authorities were admitted to
other parts of the court.
Mr. Ton asked that the evidence which had been taken
before in court should be read, and that the witnesses to
be examined should be out of court at the time.
Mr. Superintendent Maybury said an application was
going to be made for a remand.
Mr. Yeatman—You have a wan here without the slightest
evidence against him.
The witnesses on both sides were then ordered out of
court, and Mr. Fowler, after retiring for a abort time, said
it would be as well to bear the depositions read.
Mr. Fowler, is reply to Mr. Yeatman, said that Hogan
would not be charged with being present at the attack on
the van, but with being an accessory before the fact, while
Thompson was, on the other band, not only charged with
being present at the attack on the van, but with taking an
active part in that attack.
The depositions were then read which had been given on
the first examination of Thompson and the second exami-
nation of both the prisoners.
The following witnesses were then called :
William Ellis, foreman of the Manchester, Sheffield, and
Lincolnshire Railway, said be found a revolver on the line
on the 20th September. It fell from uuderneath a waggon
when it was being moved down a siding. He picked it up
and examined it, and found that its number was 39,388,
and the maker's name was Mortimer, London. In cross-
examination by Mr. Ton, he said that five of the chambers
were loaded, and one of the men fired them off before he
gave it up to the detective.
Frederick Wilson, a labourer in the employment of Mr.
J. M. Bennett, said that on the 18th September he was in
Mr. Bennett's timber yard, and saw some men moving
scree& an adjoining brickcroft towards the Midland Rail-
way yard. One of them, as he ran, threw a pistol into
the brook, which the witness picked up and gave to a
detective the same night.
Robert Poole, inspector of police at Fairfield-street
station, said that on the 18th of September he received
the pistol from the last witmem. Five chambers were
loaded ;he could not say whether the other two charges
had been fired__ , as the pistol had been found in the water.
Emma Helliday's deposition was then read, and the
witness was called. She said that the prisoner Thomp-
son was the man that Abe saw at the back of the van in
company with Allen. She saw him as soon as she came
out of the van. He stood beside Allen, close to the door
of the van, on the ground, and had a pistol in his band.
She saw him do nothing. The woman Armstrong, who
got out of the van before witness, fell over Brett, which
delayed witness from getting quickly out. While she was
waiting, Thompson said to her, " Come away—are you
not satisfied with getting away 1" He afterwards pushed
her out of the way, as if to hasten her away. She then
went off to the gaol.
By Mr. Fowler—Thompson had slight whiskers all round
his face and underneath the chin ; but his general appear-
ance was the slime. Witness had never seen him before
the 18th September, nor since, until Friday last. He was
then in company with the other prisoner in the dock.
Witness bad been taken to Alberteatreet to identify some
prisoners, but did not see any.
Mr. Fowler here explained to Mr. Ton that the reason
he had asked that question of the witness was because the
prisoner Thompson had objected to being seen by anyone
except when in court. He objected so strenuously that
the authorities ultimately gave way.
By Mr. Ton—Witness was staying at Albert-street
station during the trial of the prisoners at the amazes, and
had ever since been under the protection of the police.
She had seen the newspaper from time to time. Since the
trials at the assize court she had not once been asked
about " the other man," or whether she could identify him.
Had recognised four persons as being concerned in the
attack on the van—Allen, Redden, Johnson, and Michael
Maguire. The first and the last of those, and another man,
she had spoken to as having pistols. The third man she
had not seen when she made that statement. She had
never described "the other man" until now, and had never
" thought over" what kind of a man he was, as she was
quits positive on the point.
By Mr. Fowler—Was mistaken when she said that she
had never been asked any questions about identifying
Thompson until that morning. Mr. Anderton asked her
some questions on Friday last ; but that was after she had
identified the prisoner.
Inspector Kirkland sworn—When Thompson was in cus-
tody I was present when he objected to being seen by
any witnesses who were brought down to see if they could
I identify him. He objected to being seen for that purpose
except in the court or dock. I mentioned it to Mr. May-
bury afterwards. Thompson's objection was listened to,
and that was the reason he was not seen in the usual man-
ner by Emma Halliday and several others.
Cron-examined by Mr. Ton—A few had seen him before
he objected ; perhaps ten or a dozen. I cannot speak as
to the exact number, but I don't believe as many as five-
and-twenty saw him. Emma Halliday may have been
staying at the station, but as I don't belong to that station
I can't say. I will not undertake to swear that five-and-
twenty people did not see him before he refused to be
seen by any more.

Sergeant Henderson, of the detective force, said—On
Friday last I saw the prisoner in the dock. I cannot give
the reason why Emma Halliday saw the prisoners alone.
I only have the moon second-hand.

Chivies Thomas, sworn—l wee close to the arch on the
18th September. Mr. Fowler read over the deposition in
which this witness gave his account of the attack on the
van. The witness now said it was true. He further
added—l saw Allen at the back of the van when the
women came out. There was another man there with him
who was helping Allen to break in the van. I have never
seen that person since, and don't see him now. I have
seen the prisoner Thompson before. I saw him on the
18th September. He is the man whom I saw running
from the Hyde-road Hotel towards the arch. I pointed
him out at the time to another man, and said, " I wonder
what he is running so fast for." I saw him afterwards
mix amongst the other men after the attack commenced,
but I did not see him do anything particular. The
man at the back of the van with Allen was very
like Gould of the seine " build," and dressed in dark
clothes. That was the same man that was with Allen at
the back of the van when the women came out. There
were other persons around the van, near the back, within
ten yards ; but Allen and the man I have spoken of were
close together, and were acting together. There was no
man nearer Allen than that man except the women.
(Laughter.) When the women came out I would be about
30 yards from Allen and the man who was with him.
There would be about 20 people between me and them. I
did not see the prisoner Thompson after I saw him mix
with the crowd.

By Mr. Talbot—Thompson is now shaved. When I saw
Mtn 118 bad a beard, moustache, and little whiskers.
By Mr. Fowler—The moustache was a small one.
Richard Bromley was the man to whom I pointed prisoner
out. He is not here. He is not willing to come. [A
summons was granted to compel his attendance.]
Mr. Fowler to the prisoners—You both stand remanded
for a week. _ _

Mr. Torr said that as he might be in Liverpool on the
day fixed, be should be glad if Mr. Fowkr would let the
remand be for a week, but with liberty, in cue he should
not be present, to be extended for a day or two.
Mr. Festman—That would not affect Hogan. There is
a separate charge against him.
Mr. Fowler said he had no hesitation in telling Mr. Torr,
that if Mr. Talbot bad not applied for a remand, he was
prepared to commit Thompson for trial to-day ; therefore,
us far as his position was concerned, if Mr. Tom was not
able to attend this day week, the gentleman who instructed
him could watch the further evidence.

Mr. Torr said there was a desire that be should be pre-
sent.

)Ir. Fowler—Very well, then. I hope you will be able
to come. I won't take it this day week till after the
arrival of the 'J o'clock expreas from Liverpool.
The prisoners were then removed.

THE EFFECTS OF THE LATE GALE.—lntelligence
has been received in Liverpool to the effect that the Mes-
sina, bound from the West Coast of Africa to Liverpool,
with master and part of the crew sick with
has arrived at Crookhaven. The agent at
haven reports that he bad engaged • muter at Cork,
shipped several seamen, and Pent the vessel on. The
ship Thornton, which went ashore at the entrance to
the Mersey, has gone to pieces, and her cargo and timbers
are being washed ashore on both sides of the bay. Arrange-
ments have been made for guarding the coast, and espe-
cially for preventing the " Wallasey wreckers " from
indulging in their favourite pastime. The T. J. Southard
remains ashore on her port beam ends, within a cable's
length of Menai Lighthouse. Her hatches were all off,
and the sea making a complete breach over her. In con.
nection with the steamer Bubulina, which recently ex-
ploded in the Mersey and sank, the two large rifted guns
carried on the deck have been lifted and sent to the fac-
tory to be cleaned. The fine iron ship Lydia Williams,
which struck'on a rock about aweek ago, has'been lightened,
and an attempt will be made to lift the ship at the next
spring tides, should the weather permit the necessary pre- 1
liminary operations. The Ocean Wave, which has gone
ashore near the mouth of the Ribble, is reported to have
all her hatches washed off, and the sea running high over
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