The Express.
London, England, 1860-08-17 00:00:00

LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, AVGUST 17, 1800.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE Or LORDS.—TinntsDAy, Jon. 16.

The Catalog Roads (No. 2) Bill was mad a almond time.
sad the West Oak Railways (Amendment) Bill was read a
third time and passed.
The Duke et Aim& prasotad petitions from the Free
Provincial byrod of Wilmer, in femur of the national
system of education.
TAR SAVINGS BANKS BELL.
Earl GRANVILLE gave notice that to-morrow he should
arm the snspamioa of the maolinion with regard to sewed
readings, in order that their lordships might permit his
noble friend to more the second reading of the &Asp
Bork BM.

I Th. Bari d DONOUQHMORE wished to put it to their
lerstsiltips whether this was fair treatment of the house,
after the division of Monday night ; the understanding
being that the remit of that division would be to postpone
the bill for the seed.., and several noble lords having left
town on that nadentanding. (Hear.)
Load R.kDESDALE said he was not in town when this

disenesion began, but if he ®dental rightly, the noble earl
meant to renew the preoii&V which had taken pleas
with regard to the &rings Banks Bill. if there had
been say intention of not considering the division on Mon-
day eight, be thought notioe ought to have been given of
that intention on the part of the government. (Hear,
Leer.) The name of the bill had been removed from the
zolnutee.

Earl GRANVILLE—No, no.
r Leal. IIZDEBDALE —However that might be,-with regard
ifie; he serial* fiedMeinilialth glee. surprise in the
newspapers a dkarge broughtipinst that house of having
thrown out • looney laige--in rejecting this men.
mire. " The Lords, it was stated, " encouraged 19, the '
Prime Minister, have committed another aggression. He
protested against suet' epithet. being used with regard to
their proceedings. The noble duke opposite who moved the
resolution made an alteration in its terms, with regard to an
expression which seemed to imply a little in the first in.
stance that the bill was connected with money. But
the bill was in no way connected with money.
He protested, however, against this attempt on
the part of the government to determine •
question of this importance on a very small point ; the
effect of the measure being to encourage the Chancellor of
the Exchequer to do that which the committee of 1858 said
he might not to do.
Earl GRANVILLE said it would be more convenient if
the discussion on the merit. of the bill were taken when it
was regularly before the house.
Thera!' of DONOUGHMOREssid he mud say he thought,
considering the division some to on Monday, the noble
earl should have given notion of his intention on Tuesday,
mid not have waited till Thursday, and then have given
wales of his intention to move the resolution on Fridy.
' It was utterly impossible for three noble lords who took an
interest in the subjat to return to town in time for the die-
misstep. He amassed the course which had been taken by
the noble seri was not usual, sad one which would have the
east of tilde( noble lords on that side of the house by
varpriao.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the course pro-
=he taken by his noble friend the President ol the
wee perfectly regular, because the bill was unques-
tionably sow !afore the house. The bill was ear poiel
in the as pada as if it had been read • first has, and
ao iley had bees appointed for the second reading. There
we nothing in the Mending orders in the way of his noble
frieed's proposal.

Earl frEgART said the bill did not stand in the minutes
as far their lordships' consideration ; so that, strictly speak-
-1614711 out of minutes. He thought it was scarcely
for her Majesty's government to take advantage
of the weak state of the opposition benches in order to peer
the measure.

Lord MONTEAGLE mid this was not a simple question
of making out a case for suspending the resolution in
favour of this bill ; it was one of making out
a case for its discussion at • time when the noble earl
(Granville) knew full well that there was no opportunity
for noble lords to give notice of amendments. He thought
such notice should have been given as would at least have
avoided the imputation of unfairness. He would ask
whether there was say mama for taking this discussion to-
morrow instead of aa' other day! It was notorious that
they had plenty of time before the close of the session in
whit& to •*.ems this bin
Fart GILLIFFILLE mid with regard to the complaint
whisk gad bees made from two quarters that her Majesty's
kmaimmi hedgiven no notice of their iateutiou mew
Ai; 1 • Übe decisioa, namely, on Tuesday night, he
t • moment's consideration would show that that
coin 'nt was wholly without basis. He, for one, con-
ceived the subject matter of this bill to be one of very
serious importance, and that it would have been extremely
wrong for any member of the government to have taken
any steps with regard to it without the full consideration of
the cabinet. (Hear, hear.) The cabinet did not meet
before yesterday, and since then there had been no oppor-
tnnity until now of making any announcement of its de-
cision. The result of the decision of the cabinet had been
made known to the leader of the opposition in that house.
Lord RIDEILDALE—To whom ?
Earl GRANVILLE—To Lord Derby. From this sharps
of delay, therefore, he thought her Majesty's government
were perfectly free. With regard to certain other expres-
sions which the noble lord (hlonteagle) had chosen to make
um ed, seek as " =fakeer" and the like, he (Earl Gum-
villa) did not think it neceseary ton But he would say
he certainly did not intend to alterply. the course which had
been chalked out for the convenience of that house and of
the public at the suggestion of the noble lord, by whose
advice it was that the house came to the unfortunate
decision they did on Monday—he deal:3lld the govern-
ment were ignorant dthe nature of the ' that he alone
had any knowledge of the =Wet, the no lord himself
having neglected to make himself master of the exiling
state of the law on the subPiet, sad of what it was the
government intended to do. He certainly wee Dot disposed
to take advice from the noble lord as to the course the

government should pursue.
The Marquis of SALISBURY said he could well under-
stand the noble earl getting very angry that this subject was
so discussed, and his wish to stop any further discussion at
present. But noble lords did not so adhere to forms as that
they could not take advantage of an occasion for the die-
=melon of the questa'. This bill had been abeady con-
sidered by their lordships ; but it appeared that • member
of the Hones of 00101:1103111 had disputed the right of their
)(mishits to go into any consideration of the measure at
all ; and bad announced his intention of calling the atar
tam of that house to the subject
The Duke of ARGYLL said he thought the observa-
tions of the noble marquis were not r4r
The Marquis of SALISBURY said announcement
was on the journals; but it was possible it might not be
correct. There was • very general feeling that the object
of this measure was to enable the Chancellor of the Ex-
chever to dabble in the funds, and to make use of the
savings basks money in eamexion with the loas=eato
.
be raised for the purpose of oonstructing f
That being the came, he would appeal to their lordships whe-
ther it would be prudent to bring forward in this hasty
manner a motion so calculated to excite public alarm ?
The Duke of ARGYLL was not disposed to reply to the
remarks of the noble marquis on the present =canon. The
government proposed to rescind the sessional order which
they came to, because they were of opinion that the house
bad rejected the resolution of urgency the other night
under a =apprehension of the object of the MIL
Lord REDESDALE said the question was one of serious
importance with regard to their lordships' proceedings.
(Lood erica of " Hear, hear" front the Treasury benches.)
The decision to which the house had come was virtually
equivalent to are jeetion of the bill—lno no)-end now it
was proposed, after • single days notice, to reverse
that decision. It should be remembered that the at-
tendance of their lordships was becoming weaker day by
day ; and everybody must, therefore, acknowledge that the
coma the government were pursuing was taking the house
by surprise. (Hear.)
After a few weeds from the Earl of LVCAN the conversa-
tion dropped.
GUNPOWDER, he., BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS ACT (1857) AMENDMENT

Te sessional order having been suspended, this bill was
mad a second time.
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION, ice., BILL
This hill was reads third time and pawed.
LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL
.I'he resolution of urgency having been aimed to, this bill
nos read s second time.
SPIRITS BILL
This bill was mod a sewed time.
PRISONS (SCOTLAND) BILL
The Commons' amendments on their lordship.' amend-
ments were agreed ►o.
THE CASE OF GEORGE BULL.

The Earl ‘7lRailCNCifOilUsed tkwVerb of the
coroner's inquest asd crown taial it lara maga Bull,
• surgeon, teed for fife ianolimightor el Mesa das
hie own mother, as evades@ of proola ifildiisi sa.sio
tared by him wheals estate of excitement sm&
and found guilty at the inquest, though above sue
POW& of bad intaglios, and acquitted by the was wart-
The noble earl, In seppert of Ls moticemed • eoesidlerable
portion of the °Aeon whisk bad bees token before the
coroner, and which he ermipleinid had at beta given at the
trial of the primmer.
The LORD CHANCELLOR knew nothing of this
uses, but it appeared to him that the noble
earl wee setting a very bad precedent. The man
wee tried before • judge and jury in the face of all
pumas who ohms to attend, and he was entitled to the ad-
tithe verdict which wee given in his favour. Re
7r2s be bound to asy that Sir Alexander Cockburn read