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believed it to be a most dangerous, improper, and mama.titutionsi raceme to attempt to farce such a clime epos
the house he ill meant ludf•inforined couditko, sad at such
an unusually Lie period of the session. (Hoar, hear.)
Colossi) ENOX seconded the motion for the adjourn-
ment.

fir; E. OOLEBROOKE had intended to address the hones
before the division but after the able speech of the hoe.
member for lyskire, to which her Majesty's government
had not ventured a reply he did not fee it sworceary to do
1.96 t so. He ea* .1/ contented with the proper they
had evidenced by the ilieiniee that had just taken
1, d he truited that hors. members who had
joined in ' ion would be away ready at the next
Mags. 'By pursuing that coarse-1y urging their opinions
firmly and respily upon thishouse„theywoold leave her
Majesty's government little to bunt of. Henceforward
they would net be able to appeal to tboetionuous majority
by which they carried the second reading. ( Near' hear.)
Sir IL WILLA)UORBY protested spinet l'ass 100Salik
which, he said, settled nothing while B. unsettkid a great
dad, the house being kept in the dark as to the details of
this important fluestios. Whatever the denomination et
the European array in Inds, be remarked, it would be the
32. &gl Qtioeu's army, :tail the orifies thought that a
portion of that army sh Be localised is India. The
constitutional aspect of tho tion might, in his opinion,
to lead the house to the same coochnion, coil they nest
nut shut their eyes against the question of what would be
the emit of dispensing with a localised force, which weald
be most fearful. Looslisml nanoieuts, moreover, avoid best
beer the action of the sue.

Lard PALMERSTON—air, I rise to speak on the
question which is before ti. house. The hoe. member for
Portsmouth has moved the adjournment of the house ; the
bon. beronet who has just nit down has not said a word
about the adjournment, but he has spoken on the general
question, whilst ho has endeavoured to preclude us from
discussing it at all. My hon. friend behind me (the
member for Lanark, Sir T. Colebrooke) has said that ho will
leave it to the country to judge between the proceedings of
the government and the proceedings of those who are eu-
desvouring to oppose this discussion. The hon. member for
Portanionth has boldly declared that these proceedings of
delay are intended for no other purpose than to defeat the
bill. Now that strikes at the root of our constitutional
inatitutions. If there be one principle more than another
on which our constitutional institutions are founded, it is
this, that, after full discussion and after full opportunity
has been given for the stat..meut of opinions, the decision of
the majority ought to he considered as binding on the ml.
nority. If the decision of the majority is not to be !
considered binding on the rest, there is an end
to our constitutional institutions. In countries where

and; institutions are —;;Tminonliee often have
recourse to violence. We are now witnessing • pro-
ouding similar in principle—(hear, hear)—because the
minority, conscious as they must be that their argumento
cannot prevail over the majority, are resorting to every
device which the forms of the house enable them to take ad-
vantageof for theptypose of stopping and defeating by delay
that which they are not able to induce the homes to consent
to by argument. This is really • proceeding the object of
which has been boldly and frankly avowed by the hon. mem-
ber for Portsmouth, and which may be left for the
country to decide upon. But I venture to say that it Is
impossible for the House of Commons to discharge its con-1
stitutional functions if this system is to be persevered in on
every occasion in which a minority thinks proper. All I
can say is, that we will not submit to be coerced in this
manner so long as health and strength remain to U.— I
(cheers)—by what I must call • factious-(hear, hear)—pro-
oeeding on the part of • minority. I trust the bon. member
for Portsmouth will not put us to a trial of this sort, but 1,
that he will withdraw his motion in order that the house
may enter into • discussion of the question before it in the
regular course. According to the strict ruler of the
house hon. members ought to speak to the question. The
question before the bowie is whether the house shall ad-
journ, and I certainly think that thou who speak should
give reasons for the adjournment. But I trust the hon.
member for Portsmouth, who always acts with fairness and '
generosity in debate, and who always shows great ability
and knowledge of the subjection which he wishes to bring
his genius to hear, will feel that it is more conducive to the
dignity of the holm, and more consistent with the course
of parliamentary proceedings to let us go into committee on
the bill (Cheers.)
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE said that he had no intention of
taking soy unconstitutional course. But the delay in fur-
nishing papers and the way in which the question was
brought before the house was such as to render boa.
members nnable to discuss the question in any other way.
He begged to withdraw the question of the adjournment.
The-SPEAKER said he might take the liberty of saying,
meths gmalion if the adjournment, that the bon. member
fur Portsmouth would have agreed to the withdrawal of the
11}01i012 at once, had be been aware that there stood imme-
diately afterwards • motion which be was then about to put
to the house, upon which he might have spoken.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE rid that it was from misappre-
hension of the forms of the house that he had taken the
course he bed adopted.
Mr. MALINS, disclaiming all factious opposition, ob-
jected ou constitutional grounds to the messeure, because it
had been introduced by the minister without taking the
advice of hie council, and against their unanimous opinion.
The rights of the council, u created by the act of 1858,
were ignored, and the council itself practically abrogated
by this proceeding of the Secretary of State.
The discussion wee continued by Lord C. Hamilton, Col.
Sykes, Mr. Vansittert, and CoL Dunne.
After some explanation from Sir C. Wood, in reply to
various points raised during the previous discussion, followed
by some further observations from Col. P. Herbert, Major
Parker, and Mr. Torrens,
The motion that the Speaker leave the chair was then
agreed to, and the house went into committee.
On clause 1,
Mr. HENLEY moved the insertion of the following pro-
viso :—" Provided that the provision made for the sons of
peewee who have served in India, and the advantages as to
pay, pensions, allowances, privileges, promotion, and other-
wise, secured to the military forces of the East India Com-
pany by the Act of the 21st and 22nd years of the Queen,
c. 106, a. 35, 56, and 58, respectively, shall continue and
be maintained in any plan for the reorganisation of the In-
dian army, anything in this act contained notwithstanding."
From the statement made by the right hon. gentleman the
Secretary of State for India in bringing in this bill, be was
afraid that the guarantees in the act of 1858 were somewhat
endangered. It was impossible for him to consider that the
native army would not be effected by the govertment
scheme, perhaps even in meter proportion than the local
European forces might be. Under the circumstances he
thought it would be better to put on record the opinion c 4
the house, that the advantages originally proposedshould be
secured. _ . .

Sir C. WOOD said that he was perfectly willing to accept
the amendment of the right hon. gentleman ; and also to re-
affirm, what the government had never attempted to deny,
namely, that they had the firm resolution strictly and ecru-
pulouily of maintaining faith with the officers of the Indian
army. (Hear, hear.)
After a few words from Sir M. FARQUHAR, and Sir E
Coinintooar., the amendment was agreed to.
The preamble was then agreed to, and the bill was ordered
to be reported with amendments.
In answer to questions.
Sr C. WOOD stated that he intended to take the report
this daand the third reeding on Monday next.
Mr. MJLNFS said that the government was proceeding
with indecent haste. The understanding had been that the
Fortifications Bill should be taken as soon as this bill had
passed through committee.
Sir J. PAKINGI'ON wished to know the intentions of
the government respecting the Fortifications
Lord PALMERSTON said that as gentlemen who had
motions on the paper had promised to give place, he
proposed to take the reportthis evening, and he should have
liked to take the third reading on Wednesday, but he feared
that would be impossible, and therefore would fix it for
Thursday, when, as be did not apprehend there would be
much discussion, he thought the Fortifications Bill might
follow it.
Mr. HORSMAN complained of the way in which discus-
sion had been curtailed by the rapid manner in which ques-
tions had been put—so rapidly that members who had come
prepared to take part in the discussion were taken by sur-
prise. The noble lord could be by no means sure that there
would be no discussion on the third reading.
Sir G. GREY complained of the right hon. gentleman's
conduct in impugning the cnnduc tof the Speaker when the
house was in a committee of ways and means.
The CHAIRMAN said that the observations of the right
hon. gentleman were quite irrelevant, as nothing respecting
the fortifications was before the committee.
Mr. OSBORNE thought that the Fortifications Bill should
be fixed positively for Thursday. The Indian army ques-
tion was, of course, an important question, but not so much
AO as the fortifications.
Sir J. PAKINGTON rose to order. The question now
was that the chairman should leave the chair.
Mr. HORSMAN gave notice that when the order of the
day for the Fortifications Bill was read he should move
that it be taken as the first order on Thursday.
The house resumed.
The Senior Member of Council, the Superannuation (1859)
Act Amendment, and the Admiralty Jurisdiction (India)
Bills, were severally read a third time, and passed, without
discussion.
EAST INDIA STOCK TRANSFER, tic. (PAYMENT
.....

_ _ _
OF REFER:IVO.
Sir C. WOOD, In moving this resolution, explained that
its object wan to transfer the payment of the dividends in
India Stock from the India•house to the Bank of England.
Resolution mrml to.
THE EMILMIABTIOAL COYMLESION, Sm., BILL.

The amendment Wgl bill were Tx7n;i-d-e-rea.-;..nci-areecl

POOR RRLIF.F, (IRELAND) BILL.
On the order for the third reeding of thin
Mr. OSBORNE wished to ask the Secretary for Ireland
whether his attention had been drawn to a letter which ap-
peared in the newspapers that day reepectiog a speech

[T WOPEN CE.

he had made a few nights ago inAbat house, and whether
he considered it was consistent with the duty of a
paid servant of the commission to adders to him such
strictures on the statement he thought it his duty to
make ran independent member of parlament. Mr. Se-
nior was the gentleman who made these strictures, and,
like himself (Mr. Osborne), he considered himself a " sort
of an Irishman," because he had married an Irish lady.
What he said was this, that the appointment, to the Irish
Poor-law Board should liar& taken exclusively from mem-
bers of the protestant church, nor from the natives of
the country... Mum)
Mr. NEwDEGATE moved that the bill be re-committed,
in order that the house should have a opportunity of
lutioillf the effect of the bill uit now stoat
RADY agreed with the bon. member for Liskeard
'Mr. B. Osborne) that the conduct of Mr. Senior, a poor
law coniroiraieserr in Ireland, was deserving of the coo-
demnatiou of the home. He also complained that the !.;reat
majority of the Pour-law Akers in Ireland were protestants
and Englishmen, to the exabsion of the native Irish •
cathollos.

Mr. CARDWELL admitted be mold not justify the
letter which Kr. Senior had eddreseed through the news.
papers to the hon. member far Lislward, and be had taken
anortunity of wiling a private latter to that effect to
Mr. Union With roped to the proposition of the tun.
member for Warwidis Newdemite), that the bill
should he recommitted, he trusted the house *odd sot give
Swaim* to any inch hies.
Rs. CLEORGE denied that he bad ever seen any feeling
of sectarianism minced at Poor-law boards in Iretaml.
After • few remain fries Mr. 31611osios and Mr. Rms.
mom, the home divided, when the numbers were :
For the third reading ..... ......
Agausst it
The MR was then read a thisd time.
FORTIFICATIONS AND WORKS.

On the eider of the day for the hares going into aom•
mitten on this bill,
Lord PALM ERSTON rid that this bill should be taken
the first this( on Thursday.
AVOIdENTATION OF BENEFICRS (IRELAND) ELLL..
This bill was read s third time.
lONIAN ISLANDS MARRIAGE/3 BILL.
This bill was read a third time.
SALE OF GAS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.

Thie bill as read a mooed time.
The home adjourned at a quarter-past two o'clock.

PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION.

HOUSE OF 0014:61ONS.—Jusir 30.
EUROPEAN FORCES (LYDIA) BILL.

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Motion made, and question proposed, " That Mr. Speaker
do now leave the chair :"—Amendment proposed,to leave
out from the word "that" to the end of the question, in
order to add the words " in the opinion of this house, it
is inexpedient to proceed further with leirislation re-
specting the European troops in India, until the whole
plan of the government for the regulation of the mili-
tary force of that country shall have been submitted to
the consideration of parliament"—(Bir James Ferguson)
—instead thereof :—Question put, " That the words pro-
posed to be left out stand part of the question." The
house divided—Ayes, 80 ; hoes, 50.

AYM.

Airar4llll, L. G.
Ashley, Lord
Atherton, Sir W.
Arton, A. S.
ell, J.
rral. G.
Barley, T.
Beecroft, G S.
Berkeley, H. Y.
Bement Colonel
Black, A.
Buckley, General
Butler, C. S.
Butt. I
Calrd, J.
Castlerosee, Visa.
Cavendiah, W.
Churchill, Lord A.
Clay J.
Clifford, Colonel
Clive, G.
Cobbold, J. C.
Cowper, W. Y.
Cranford, E. H.
Welsh, R.
Davey, R.
Dawson, R. P.
Dickson, Colonel
Dunkellin, Lord
Edwards, Major

Banta, : Palmerston, Visit
Yortescue, C. S. Patten, Col. W.
Gard, R. 8. Pritchard, J.
Garnett, W. J. Roby, Lord
George, J. Pugh, D.
Glinon, T. M. Puller, C. W.
Graham, Sir J. Ridley, Sir H. W.
Gordon, B. Rothschild, L de
Herbert, col. P. Remelt, Sir W.
Jermyn, Earl Selwyn, C. J.
Jenla Captain Seymour, Sir 31.
Kekeinich, S. T. Somerset, Colonel
Knatchbull - Hager Spooner. E.
son, E. Stuart, Colonel
Knot. Colonel Stuart, LL-Col. W.
Ling, S. Strom, Sir H.
Langston, J. H. Talbot, W. C.
Lawson, W. Upton, General
Lefroy, A. Vanslitart, W.
Leiria, Mr G. C. Villiers, C. P.
Lindsay, W. 8. Walter, J.
Lockhart, A. L Warner, K.
Martin, J. Warre, J. A.
Mammy, W. N. White, J.
Maxwell, Colonel Wickham, H. W.
Miller, W. Wood, Sir C.
IWould, B. T.
Newark,4l).Viaconot
Noel, G. J. Tiiliaa.
oConor Don, The Brand, H. B.
Padmors, Z. Dunbar, Sir W.

NOES.
Adam, W. P. Gordon, C. W.
Arbuthnott, Gen. Greene. J.
Astell, J. H. Haliburton, T. C.
Bailey, C. Henley, J. W.
Bridges, Sir B. W. Hennessy, J. P.
Buxton, C. Hopwood, J. T.
Calthorpe, F. H. Horanuut, E.
Colebrook., fUrT. E. Kennard, R. W.
Crawford, R. W. Kershaw, J.
Crook, J. Lee. R.
Dodson, J. G. Malin*, B.
Dunne, Colonel Martin, P. W.
Elphinstone,SirJ.D. Mina, A.
Evans, Sir De Lacy Milieu, R. M.
Farquhar, Sir M. Napier, Sir C.
Fermoy, Lord Pate, Sir L.
Freeland, H. W. Parker. Major W.
Goldsmid, Sir F. M. lib* H.

Ridley, G.
Roebuck, J. A.
Seymour, H. D.
Shelley, Sir J. V.
Smith, J. B.
Smith, Augustus
Smutlett, P. B.
Stanley, Lord
Sykes, Colonel VV. H.
Turrets, R.
Verney, Sir H.
Williams, W.
Willoughby, Sir H.
TEAM.
Fe n, Sir J.
Baring, T.

METROPOLITAN RAILWAY.

The report of the directors to be submitted to
the half-yearly meeting to-morrow states that the corpora.
tion of London have become shareholders to the extent of
200,0001., as previous] y arranged, and have nominated to
the direction three members of their body. The bill pro-
moted by the company for improving their station arrange
menta has been passed. The other bill introduced by the
company for effecting abetter communication between their
railway and the system of the Great Northern Railway was
adopted and promoted by the Great Northern Railway Com-
pany, and has received the royal assent, and the works of
the new junction will be undertaken by and at the cost of
that company. The corporation of London have obtained
the sanction of parliament to establish extensive marketa
'in Smithfield for the sale of meat and provisions,
and to afford to railway companies facilities there, not
only for traffic for the purposes of the markets, but also foe
receiving and delivering goods for the general trade of the
City and the central districts of the metropolis. The bill
promoted at the instance of the company for a short line to
connect their railway with the new markets, and with the
large and convenient railway station which will there be
formed, has also received the sanction of the legislature.
Arrangements have been made by this company, and the
Great Western Railway Company, with the corporation for
the use of the ground under the market for the purposes of
• goods station. The rent to be paid by the two companies
fur this large space is fixed at 2,0001. per annum ; the com-
panies bearing the coat of excavating the substructure and
its retaining walls, and also a portion of the cost of the
roof, the corporation defraying the larger portion of the
latter outlay, and all charges incidental to the erection of
the market. The London, Chatham, and Dover Railway
Company have obtained powers to extend their line
to join the railway of the company at its present terminus
in Victoria-street ; the system of the Metropolitan
Railway will be thus placed in direct railway com-
munication not only with Dover and the con•
tinent, but also with the southern portions and sub-
urbs of the metropolis. Considering the enormous traffic
which the Metropolitan Railway will undoubtedly be re-
quired to accommodate, and more especially the need of
near the proposed goods depot at Smithfield, the
lisZtore have thought itexpedient to purchase the whole of
the vacant land belonging to the corporation of London on
the eastern side of Victoria street and north of West-street.
For this land, in quantity 5 acres 19 perches, the purchase
money has been agreed at 179,1571., of which 00,00 W. will
be paid in money during the next 12 months, and the re-
, meander by a rent-charge at the rate of 44 per cent. per
annum redeemable in 40years. The works both at King's.
cross and at Paddington are in full progress ; a very con-
siderable rtion of the land for the line and itations has been
and thebuildings thereon are being rapidly cleared,
Although the stations at Victoria-street ail Smithfield wiQ
no doubt be sufficient for the previously contemplated traf-
fic of the railway, it is impossible to deny that a station
nearer to the Bank is a public requirement ; sad the disas-
ters think it advisable that application should be made to
parliament in the ensuing session for an extension from
Smithfield to Finsbury-cireus. The length of this extension
will scarcely exceed half a mile, and the directors ave ad-
vised that the property through which it would past is not
of a costly description. The direction are of opinhia that
no preference stuck should be created for this purpose, but
that the necessary cost will be readily provided fur by
means of a separate capital of the Metropolitan Company,
as the vast traffic over this portioe of the line, comprising
the combined traffic of both the Metropolitan and London,
Chatham, and Dover Railways, will obviously secure a sa-
tisfactory dividend on the capital to be expended upon ita
construction. The active 'piratic= d the company have
thrown considerable week upon the and the
directors, subject to the approval of the shatehe ders, have
fixed his salary at 4001. per annum.

Tax ROAD CHILD MURDZIL—Nothing further
has transpired in reference to this case tending to throw
any light upon the murder. We may, however, mention
the fact that Mrs. Kent, the mother of the murdered child,
was confined on Saturday morning, the day after her step-
daughter, Miss Constance Kent, was liberated on the charge
of having been implicated in this mysterious tragedy.
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