The Express.
London, England, 1860-03-23 00:00:00

THE REPINIENTATION OP THE PEOPLE BILL

AMOUR". RD DEBATE.

Upon the order of the day for resuming • the adjourned
debate upon the motion for the second reading of the Re-
presentation of the People Bill,
.;A.NBFELD said it had been aseerted that there
MIS • el hawed upon the cart of the country on this
question miens, hit whatever truth there might or might
set be in thgt on, he thought it would be oonoaled
eitimdli. ea-the opposing' side of the hoes*, that
the supposed of the country had been sympatheti-
cally roepo to • a lukewarm sad half-hearted opposi-
tion—(hear, hser)—such as probably never was offered to a
measure of rmesh importance by three who professed
to disapprove it the principles • upon which it was
founded. He might object bo it because it was so
moderate, and wish to defer the settlement in
order -rase • there sweeping change (which delay
would renew inevitable) might be introduced—but he
did not, bemuse he. thought it better that the question
should be settled while the public mind WAS in a state that
might be sally reified. He desired not defeated ens.
miss, bat converted opponents; end he supported the bill,
because it would' make einverta, disarm wait'.
dice. and dispel shins. (Haor. , bear.) And as the
repeal of the ens hiem la • generation had
made free-traders of alined parties se he was convinced
if this measure pawed, in the worse of a tee sus they
would be all more or len reformers. Wear, hear. He was
more and mom onvinced that that which. was called public
opiaioa, and which was higher &gamy politiesl machinery,
arid was bead on the soave sad sullghteued intel i.
grace of the eoy, would canna under the widest pos-
sible extenica at the trarichias, to override and control our
legislative go_parameM. (Hear, hear.)
J. PhAllgt4o7t.)N observed that the debate had been
leg to this time both curious and instructive, but he had
waited in vain to see • member ow the other side rise to
speak ia favour of the bill, or to me say one of her Hager
ty.s ministers rise be his pace to decent it. (Hear, hear.)
The hoe. member for HuManeld who spoke =md
sad
who was the meat advocate for purist?) of election e ,
the bill only as • step is the right direction. He was fol-
lowed by odium' on the same side, most of whom •
sed
of the want of the ballot as a defect ie the bill, and the ab-
sence of a more extensive redistribution
.qf sesta, end re-
ferred to the 'serenity, sooner or later, of some measure
upon that subject Ms her, member for Edrmingluun, who
addressed the hounelate in the evessing oil the Arai night of
the debate, said preened,: the masse thi.g. The hos. mem-
ber seemed to mender tumid( • 'art of Sttgiih O'Connell.
He Mid indulges* that he . mode every allowance
for the position of the meat, and was
&speed • to tolerate the brill in consequence of
the difficolty in which the government was placed,
but he went on to ay that be was content to gain his object
by proceeding in successive steps, and thet he regarded this
bill as merely the " first step to ulterior results." He
would refer for a moment to whet the hon. member said in
reference to the warehouse of Hears. Watts, of Mascheetes,
The hon. member was guilty of something like clap-trap
when he appealed to the house to give the franking to the
large body of intelligent men he saw there. He Piz J.
IPakingtoui was reminded by his right hoe. friend, who had
also wen those men, that the leagues, they held to his was
the expression of • feeling of deep regret that the lodger fran-
chise proposal of the late government bad not been conceded.
The bra. gentians who had just spoken had made • speech
of great ability, bet bad tad the home, as bed all who had
spoken from the same honchos, that he too regarded the
measure a a stop ia the right dinned (Hear, hear.) He
l'alchlfftaithals by no MOM ~primed to hear this
npage from hon. members on the other side, for his own
opinion was that it wee &tearable bill. (" Oh, oh," and •
laugh.) Ile could only amount for such a bill by supposing
it to be the compromise of a. divided cabinet—or the
oresequenee of divided attention between forages
and dsmenie affairs. (" Hear, bear," and " 01,
oh.") In his opinion it was only not contemptible
tomer while it mnatreed for good it was powerful for
harm. (Hoar, hear.) For hissed(, be was sorry the noble
lord had throws away so greet en opportunity. The noble
lord had had the rare fortis* of having been able to watch
during thirty years the working cf Mit peat measure of
reform ot which hp wee the inanition, though mt, per-
haps, the frame: He bedlam' safe to observe the faults
sad defects as well ps therawits et that mseaure; sad he
(Sir J. Pakington) had koped, now Hat it awn fell to the
noble lord's let to den With this pest sad difficult edged,
he would have approached it in • huge and statesmanlike
spMit—that he washhasore pnneated to us • measure which
an parties might have supported who 'leaned to
see the queutisa settled that he would have
laid before the arose a large end comprehensive
measure, correseing the defects and healing the
evils-a meesems worthy of his name, and worthy of the
government from which it emanated. (Hear, hear.) He
speed with the last speaker, that the measure practically
conned but of on_ proposition. He weed that the ex-
tent of the ditheschnement it combined differed so little
from that pronged by the km geweennsent that it was not
worth their. while to dwell on that part of the bill, andsmis it
the subject of aggament. The' nip material itlfirserge
between the two pommels in thiai respect was, en
that of the late government was founded ma ' a
principle, while that of the pp t government was dad-
Jute of anything lets • (Hear, %ear.) He repsdei
the prop.isal of the' memrure simply a one here le emor-
whelm the property and intelligence of the coestey by har
of members. To gnat spina this daegerous asemegely of
power he suggested various plow and expedients, end as a
IMAM of securing • mato» and careful revision of the re-
presentation, he thought • gagman' of Loaf Orly well
worthy of attentios—ramely, to agleam acccomittes of the
Privy Council deliberately to sosmioer the whole subject.
He might he asked, he observed, whg he did not object to
the second Ind* a the bill. Ifni so tar as the bill had
say minipill, it wee the astendois of the franchise, and he
slid an object to in extemisa ; he could not, therefore,
the sadendhig. He did nee wish to move an
emelledies, bemuse he did_ est ,apoire to follow a
had main* he *mad wait the damn= of die bills the
semideles, elms le loped the connotes muse al the house
neuld ear in lie name.

Sir G. GRHY asked whether no soonest wee to be taken
of the inmates,' sod the ive improvement of
the working domes? (Hear, .) Were the right
on.
gentiemekelpsalltp so as to have no faith
in the aerie whisk had her mis Iktnuebout the country
to improve and ointallithem dense? He t year=
a IA Kowessele is Mesa el 8r W. A
and at the Mel& I.llriphseeen was prinent. Thai
lamanted genihmen oinks al the iffswvaiwast end
of the prime ewe of
reset
sad le
ZdanliZaltai tather.in hie early streatriusd net so mask
(Madly with manse es with Riad.
did not said remmigel Abe working abeam of tialtainr:
suable him to deny est bin deign to peniagien. and Mr. R.
said eat Wm W. Aremteverg was gmatici=l
to the ability of workmen is perdicUng his
Werellionahe men who were esaidwed to be se Anegperowe
to the ricaMitiehem. sod whi would overbear the
end inteilloneied the Irmo by their umbers? Irbil.
lined that the inseuese in ma i borough would not be seek
ea to essentially elmege the disreoser of the enteitusacy.
fl. returns whisk Wangle tie table had hues premed
with poet attention. sad be believed they eoald not be
ingegael • at soy rate the were substantially awa-
re* sad they make a good proximate eel.
mate of what woulda be the probable Carrera on
the register medimihsvpimilmi of this bill. (Hear, bear.)
The priaciple ef the hill wee the admission of the working
amiss by a ridgethe of the heron* fraachise, end to that
principle the been had/hum • distinct ruction by it. vote
en on
sesend sening el the WI which was brought is by
itamp2raaanalLtbs• the 1021:iiiikahl the stimlTrans
=talr a "ail!
la.
that =M Cl' I ::
value of si. ea the lead which girre the ipidideetiet. But
if the right bon pilaw woaid lea at the hill he would
dial tint Um esemillien to which he mimed weal/ net in
ties knit affect these wits voted _a the Maio awe ;
and therefore - the objection was .
Another objection to the bill was that ils= looses
of the county eseentaseise a great somber of pemsgspho
raided in the nelmin of Inge town., and who wee Melt
oily Wahiawa, of Wee Nips. „But any ettleiglrie
renditwf the betederies et the boreillbs, so es to Wide in
them tin clan of wefts sites the right hen. gemilemen
...ts.
did not milt true esuml.velme. nonid involve am-
why sod watasise • Ned it Mr not a proposal. all
ergots, which her Majeng's genieninenn felt -it ark
Bo present to Ile *eon Another objection to the
tome from amy enet quarter. It woe with vellidd to
the oralitirm that tie new onset) votive should be abed
occupiers. and should have paid their rotes up to a aseloin
Jay, which, however, was very remote *all thew
which the would he revised. With the
4 the Ch wive votes, sow had ever bees admitted to
the frenehiee as as roes pier without a comphasee with tie
condition ie queens: natelaiditi,e was essesibil to W.
.11.1 oe.4•.trel 1t impale. sad It .a, row& etredid alio
under the Reform Act of 1832. U they gave • era a vele,