The Express.
London, England, 1859-07-06 00:00:00

Mr. INGHAM said a few words in support of the bill.
The house then divided.

For lears to bring in the bill
/Laziest it
The bill we therefore loot.

TURNPIKE AND BRIDGE TOLLS.
Mr. ALCOCK mooed an address for the appointment
et • royal communion to inquire Into and report apes the
beet means of aboliebing the tolls on the turnpike roads and
bridges of Enslent :Lod Wale,: He remarked that eimilar

curnireleions bad been granted for Ireland and for Scotland,
and Me for the neighbourhood of the metropolis. He had,
therefore, a right to AM the same for England and Wales
geserelly, and though be had no reason to expect the
goveretheet meld agree to it, he thought It a perfectly
reraistieb sad moderam demand. The bonded debt on the
ra,tolls of England and Wales ndw amounted to
91/. The aggregate amount of the income of the
turnpike trusts wee at present 1,044,3624, but the
amount paid in tolls by the people of the country
wan not lesa than a million sad a hell, so that the persons
who rented the toll* got something like 33 per cent. of profit.
The plan which had bees adopted In Ireland to get rid of
turnpike tolls woo to put the charge of maintaining the reads
on the comma law of the country. It was a principle of
common law there, se It was of common semi everywhere,
that the charge of repairing the highways should be tome
by the owners and oceupiers of laud. The annual rateable I
value of the reel property in England chargeable by law with
the maintenance of the parish reeds was 103,600.0001., and a
rate of twopence In the pound upon it would producd
362,000/. which he contended would be sufficient to provide
foe the turnpike roads. The a immissioneas M Ireand found
that the rate secomuy to be laid non each heresy
for the maintenance of the turnpike roads was quite imps-
criptible,—a teething or a halfpenuy in the pound. Ile cal-
culand that no lees then 300,0001. would area from the vale
of the too-douses, and that sum might Le applied to the
redactors of the bonded debt. It we. but (Air that Englen4
and Woke should be freed from the Inconvenience of turnpike
folk, as well es Ireland and Sintiend.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
proposition of the hew wombs/ was one to which he could
got dies hie assent willOwit some more substantial grounda
Wm bad bum stead. lhe principle to which be would have
the beam coma Rolf was that the tolls on all the tut oink*
nods sod Whips abseil he abolished, and a comminion he
agpstatiol to WON, iato the hest means of doing
M. Now • report bad Lola laid on limitable which
111141111 d that Oa polies of the turnpike treats was greatly
It in tins Hist the total revenuelud dicol-
-1 the apses et aniatalalag the roads bad dimi-
nished lo maple pnpenlea. The coat of what were called
Inyveneavere ease ealaind ken 200,0001. in the yam 1837 to
about MAW. be ISM; the law charge* and Wanes had
else has ,hand, and the lutenist upon debt, which be 1837
wen 21(11111" led hem reduced to 181,0001. la 1866. Ea-
gle/Rag bbs tornado tracts of Soot hWalf., which were nadir
a Mamma mem, the segregate bonded debt bad Men
reduced from 7.11110,0001. be 11137 to 6,236,0001. in DM. This
waica very sadelhoory etatemast of the financial positiou of
B the turnpike trusts. at it the sweeping change now pro-
=ram adapted, if all the turnpike trusts were to be
.d, the security spa which all thit bonded debt was
wadi she Le destroyed, and the bondboldets must L.
gswyMed with another security. It was doubtful whether a
mete divagates la nee mad went be einbe, et. le the eta
110111116.0 of South Walser, la al the Rabic,* riots,
a "NW lassecial arreaparana been owl* by which the
den was wad aver a sal= 'Gam laneleatieg is 1172;
and It um use dedrebile that deen envesponean should he
eahmeed. The eel, on Wan mind yn • diderest fa te
▪ big bolsi by primal otos of t, sad .hold
an be YAWN be • arm! begdiy The smarsioions sp.
paned Is band nit Seethed wire no praniesee tee each
ea one ihe:hea. amt. r sow teamed ; Y Ireirsil
Men did sot mire pnevally thresibest the
=bat shinty fa the mighbourhood of Dobbin. The
Om instregolis was also peculiar, Oats turapiluscgatas
ist dose to Leeks wen a auburn evil. The commissista
on mehopsliMa turnpike tolls, ot which Lord Ennio" wee
desinnan, would soon tasks is report, and if It proposed a
plan likely to sacred, that might be so eacoungeintrat to
extend tt farth. r. He quite ationtol that turnpike mile were
not the beet mode of telethon; though equitably falling on
those who used the reed, they were • somewhat naptrassat
and meadow. examit n. It the hos. Member could point out
any 16111•80 aLoliebtag them, let hint embody it Is a Lill,
aid the house might then judge of it; and if any diffictrity
thee arose on the det.cs, there might Le graced for thither
Inquiry. The gnat defects of the prevent system arose from
the fact that many if the trusts had not yet expired, and had
not yet acme under parliamentary revi.un; and also from
the hut of the unarcerstry nutuSer and smellama of the
trutta. A better edmialstration and more economical expert.
elders could be obtained It they wen under the superintend-
eats of county hoards.
Hr. HOPE said the movement in favour of substituting
rates for tolls had not roads much progrem in Soolend. It
was • :Moats, however. to ray the! the system was fair, be-
came tome persons used many mites of rued without paying
aaythiag. whereat, othere paid a great deal for the use of a
very wall &Mo. e. H. wm, therefore, in favour of rates.
Mr. CRAUFURD did not think the difficulty of sulattie
toting rale. for tolls was so grist ea the hon. member scented
to think. That 1.1. an had Mug been tried in the large county
of Argyll with pet fmt succors. Ile ilmught the bon. gentle-
man (Mr. Alcork) hod be ea alter the wording of his
nutim, so as t • amooilat• It to the Scotch commiseion ; fn
other words, that there should be as Inquiry into the posse-
Ldity of sutruituting an equitable mode of esemonsat for the
eystern of tolls.
Mr. B. CARTER objected to the laxity with which soca-
mistime had of late Lem greeted. During the last twelve
years a Feet deal of good had been done Ly private legielee
don, all new trumpite hills b. lag now drawn cm a unbars
plan ; end he thought It would Whetter m defer soy gement
usemme, at all events for the guest session.
Tb, mottos wee then negatived witlrot a divides.
CHURCH RATES COMMUTATION.

Ur. ALCOCK obtained leave to king fa .bill foe die
Voluntary onotratation of thumb rum
FISHERIES REGULATION.

)Ir. HOP u•5513;;;;ir,;;;;J.7:1;;11: a un for tbe
sore gleeful PrilinV4llioll sad iliallaS9 of the breed of sal-
toot sod h.b of ILe Woos kind. sad for bsterr regulating
the fisbetiee is the rivers of Haelatti.—A greed Se.
HALF PAY.

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Colonel NORTH moved that the bootee wield We day
resolve into. consatitse to consider of an humble address in
her Illsjeety, that she would be graciously pissed to grist
tbe half ply of 400 f. • year. unattached pry, to aortae
athlete who obtained piontouou spun half pay wader tear 's.
visions of iho general order of the 23rd of April, 1826, who
blot rice become gen.tal officers oud we now ;seising
onto the half pay of their regimental rank, end to 11111111 Te her
Mijosty that this hoes ',AAA n 2,40,00.1 the 0 OM). There
wen oily soma them offiewe, no. of whom had bees in
tue alloy elects 1796, sod ttes yourigus ones 1801 i sad it
I era. badly right that they 'humid be receiviog only lin • dey.
Mr 8. HERBERT eras easy be could Dot accede to the
outlaw of rho g.llant offleav,whodid not appear sou cfe.rly to
I hove understood the objects el the glq.Cliii order of 1826. No
doubt so order was sate be elder to enable (Ass to go es
half.; ay with supetL.r tack to that which they held, sad
without prejudiee to Urge figure claims ; but thin did as
ezespe them from the operation of regulations which 'sided
Wn. end which had Wits! ever Saco. One of those regu-
lation. wee that no see should receive the allowanoe of •
general who hoi not served eta yams se • kid Aker. It
I misfit be sue that the sews offices Mery d to in the
I tart is had tack been in the siege BO or 80 yeas ; but
the hose suet retasioter that th. re we. another side to that
queet•on. namely, that soma of those gentlemen had
never dose a da)'• fury since 1820. (Hear, hear.)
General PEEL said be tnek a different view of this ewe to
that taken by his right hon. Mead. It ma said that no