The Express.
London, England, 1860-04-11 00:00:00

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Areas the meeting. Having obleined a bearing, he mid
that when churchwardens were elected that was the wwm
tine to discus the redeipta and expenditure emanated with +
the pariah church, and whim all legitimate questions
having reference thereto should be freely put and as freely
&towered. (Hear.) If Hr. Liddell would not an-
swer the quisMons which had been put, the
natural ancluion which people would draw was that
there was somathing wrong in the matter. (Loud cheers.)
He wished to make sonic manias ap the occurrences
which bed tam PleeeLoileei he uodirtoeb the office of
churchwarden,
The Cuaiiwu—l beg your pardon, ut will you allow
me to ask whether you vies for the purpose of nominating
some person for the ogee of churc►wardan or not (Oh !)
Hr. HALL—Yes, I do. (Hear.)
The Oneness—Thew I mud request you to confine
yourself
_to that sedan and to 'peak to the point. Skies
of " Oh," " Shame," " Hear," and cheers.)
Hr. HALL would do so, if the chairman would not inter-
rupt him. (HaLrialilliaaa be (Kr. Hall) had been in cane
he had always to tot is aniaroiliatory
which the cbairman=edadinitted. But the result had
been the same in his oaas as in tbat of Kr. Westerton—the
more conciliation ke had mitoralemmere extravagant bed.
been the conduct of the clergy of Use pan 4 and the more
determinedly had they gone on in the course of Rominkleg
the people. If he had not had a strong mind and a=
nerve Misseidglitmq daring his year of oft*, he
Mamie haVE.hended over body cad soul to the
_Papal
ehnrch.' and cries of " Hear hear," and
”Illaina.") be saw the whole of thiclargy of the
*telt folly (prepared and determined to carry out the prin-
ciples said paellas. of the Jesuita—when be saw things
whictr mole the bleed bail within the breasts of all who
Peelinsisd Me** of the hart led the noel which es .

WlTed and attaltdad , sad wen dal
aa. giseerraptioa. A Voice—" Tell us what
are f e "Rasalliou," " Order," sad " Chair.")

. , _.I fieriptares ... , . %La'
.s spoken of se accompanied by other virtuee—aa love, joy
Litatilatalf—l mast entreat you to ;serve tine re•
long-suffering, temperance, meekness, faith, and so op ; and marks to amme rape appropriate occasion, and confine your•
opposed to then are hatred, variance, reviling; wrath, strife, Gaff to theiroper business of the meeting.
meffitiene, heresies, envying'', and such like, of which those Several rannitllo3llle—Lio on • now re the time.
I
who snort, we aro told shall
desire earnestly to keep thew veered points not inherit the kieg. Mr. Hatt resumed—Many present woold remember the
doe of conversion to Popery of two young clergymen of the parish ;
of Christina teaching before my own mind in all I may say
young men who, he believed, were honestly inquiring after
or do here tuday, and I earnestly and affectionately exhort tenth, but who, having been imbued with Pneeine Inflict'
you to recollect that thew seared worda apply to you en Pies at Oxford, unfortunately came to that pariah as
wall u to me, and that ea we obey
them nor curates, when, wider the system of teaching they received.
imbue happiness depends. With these I:swimming They found the course towards the doctrines of Popery OW
remarks will now proceed m the ammo, of and natural -and one after the other had gone over. (Cries
this meeting and rthe incumbent of the pariah to nond- cd " Shame, ' Order," and cheers.)
nate my churchwarden. and with his cement and concur. The CHAIRMAN again interfered—This had nothing to do
mace I name r friend Mr. Davidson, who his been awith the election of a chnrchwerdeli* (" Hear' hear," and
ki send to fill that office for the past year. I would further "Oh, oh.") Be might observe, however, that one of the per.
observe, that while I wish to minsr my thanhenhims to sans referred to by Mr. Hall had never been at Oxford.
,
him for the care and attention he has paid to the work and (c Well, it wee at Cambridge.") If they would obey his
functions of the oflioe during the time he Mu held it I de.
authority ea chairman he would remain in the chair, if not
sire in like manner to avail myself of this opportunity to he would leave. (Hear, hear.)
express my acknowledgments in the same way to his co-ed. Mr. HALL must persevere in making a statement which
juror, Mr. Hall, who toe performed his duties and on an he considered to the business upon which they were
occasions conducted hinuen towards me in a kind and &mi.
assembled. (Cheers.) He bad in his hand a list of the
cable manner. (Hear, hear.) He told me when he entered 'lrene from the Church of England, brought about by
upon the office that it wag not his wish to offer any factious this teaching of which he complained, numbering between
opposition to the work of the church as conducted by to, 200 and 300, and including members of parliament, peers
the clergy. He said that he thought some of the proceed. et the ream, and people of high "glen of both "tee'
lop thee had taken place here before were detrimental to The CHAIRHAN, rising suddenly—Then I shall not remain
the interests of true religion, and that he had no wish to te hear it
take env part in such proceedings himself. He has fulfilled The rev gentleman here left the chair and the room, ec-
ho pi,* towards me in this respect—he has thromthent oompanied by his friends, and saluted by hooting', groaning",
his period of office acted in an amicable mad kindly hisses, waving of hats, and cries of "He has gone to itt.
manner towards me, and I am grateful for it. Heeielfelei"wEnat*"
There has been one instance and one only in which we
Mr. WiSTERTON then moved that Mr. Hall take the
differed. In that case the point of difference MI referred- chair, which was seconded and carried, and Mr. Hall pre-
to the Ordinary. who gave his decision in my favour. Mr, sided during the remainder of the proceedings.
Hall sifter... 4. admitted that he bad been led into error as Yr. IlLuz then proceeded to address the meeting at very
to the nature of his duties in respect to that matter, and great length, observing that his observations were not made
the thing then paned over. I having named Mr. David- out of any disrespect to Mr. Liddell, for when he entered
son as my churchwarden, it now devolves upon you to upon his duties he was desirous of conciliating all parties,
nominate the person you think most eligible to fill the same bat he soon found that wax impossible. Referring apin to
office on the part of the parialtioners. the secession of the two curates, Messrs. Fothergill and
Mr. Wureurrox—Before we proceed to the nomination I Wormall, he said that he had felt it hie duty to commix.
have one or two questions which, as a parishioner, I sin Pinto with the Bishop of London on the subject, and stating
desirous of putting to you. (Hear.) hisopinion that it was owing to the system pursued in the
The Ceisnusers-1 must beg bederehand, ea chairman, to churches of St. Paul and St. Rumbas. The reply was an
say that we must confine ourselves to the duty for which ellwemion of regret at the !circumstances, and an intiroa-
we are assembled. That duty is to elect churchwardens for lion that it had already been communicated to him (the
the ensuing year, and not to catechise me. (Oh, oh.) I Bishop) hy Mr. Lidden. _ He complained that the judg-
hope, therefore, that we shall proceed to do that which is me" 4 In° Privy Council, ordering the removal of the
lawfully required of uswithout interruption. ("Hear crones sad other decoration of the altar in the_perieh
hear," and "Oh, ob., ' church of St. Paul's, had Paul's, been evaded. Though
Mr. Werinwrox—l am obliiied to yeti for the informs. they had been removed for a time, the crosses had been
Lion, but I did notit. am here in the discharge recently restored, and were set up over the communion.
of my duty as • ir
oner in p ' a pawn to fill tse table, not upon it—a distinction without a difference—the
office of churchwarden ; but before I o so, as this is the
super-altar remained, the embroidered altar cloths were
only opportunit I con have of putting • guano& or two to still used, the bowing'' and genuflexions still went on, the
you in your e of the incumbent of the parish, I services were choral, the candlesticks and enrollee were
-avail myself of it, and upon the anima's I may rumen will there, and the latter were lighted ; the rood screen re-
depend very much the person I shall nominate. The Sot 'mined. and the Ten Commandments were merely printed
question I wish to ask is, ' Did you not help yourself to 'm • Seca of Paper and pasted pp against the wall, as money collected et the offertory when the sacrament was though they wanted t° etrid of the commandments alto'
administered to pay for altar lights, without the consent gether. St. BarnabseChurch was, if poisible, still more
of the parishioner's' churchwarden, and notwithstanding his nearly aesimilitted to the Church of Rome, and to make it
Protests f (Several parishioners exclaimed, "That is true ; I° the Latin lanLM4rin was used in the texts and iliscrilr
you did it." Others cried "Order, order," and "Chair ;" thous about the ' g ; the morning service was divided
and evident symptoms of angry feeling began to display into four or five distinct parte ; the tinkling of little
themselves on tooth sides.) bells went on as one portion of the congregation was dia.
A PAIIBIIIONrR (one of the incumbent's friends)—l have missed and another wee admitted, and the Litany was 'MU'
a right... a parishioner. to protest against this unseemly dared and mutilated by chanting and singing, so that
interruption to the proonduige. (interruption. Cries dnobody could understand it. This was all done designedly
" Who are you ±" , ' Turn him out," "Order," " Chair," te accustom the Peile to the system and practices of the
and other exclamations, which effectually put a stop to the Papal church, in der that the transition from Pro-
intended oration. tenant= to Romanism might be easy. The parish
After • few minutes, during which the rev. CHAIR- had subscribed pearly 60,0001 for church building,
use remained upon his legs vainly endeetvowing to of which about 20,000 f. bad been 'expended upon the build-
restore order, he took advantage of a partial lull to say, big over the way (St. Paul's), and nearly 40,M01. upon St.
addressing Mr. Westerton—l must remind you that your Harnahm,
question has nothing to do with the duties we are here metwhich would only hold about 600 people.
(Shame.)imb He held that this was a wasteful sacrifice of the
to perform. (" Oh, oh," and cheers.) Las chairman, subscribed by the people, to the vanity of priest+ and
rule that it is an irrelevant question, and that I decline to inieetcrltt (Cheer.) He contended that those who were
answer it. (Cries of "Quite right" on one ride, met by et the head of the clergy in that parish were nothing more
counter cries of " That is a confession of guilt " red Ina than Jesuit& ; and if they were not in the pay, they
much confusion.)
Mr. WrSTERToN—The answer is sufficient (Oh, oh.) entsinly were in league with the Romish church. They
would never be satisfied until they bad seduced the people
My second question is, '.From what fund wee the old debt from their glorious protestant liberty. (Cheers.) He pro-
paid which you had contracted for altar candles, which seeded to quote largely from the hooks used by the clergy
debt, when I was in office, 1 would not allow to be taken of St. Paul and St. &rubes with a view to show that they
from the altar money ±"
taught
The CHAIRMAN—I have the same answer Ito give to that Hanish doctrine. He had no fear of the middle and
lower classes, but he regretted that many of the higher
as to the other question. (Renewed interroptioe, and cries chimes were disposed to give way t° the jesuitical cop-
of " That is ple•ding guilty.") Upon any point upon spinitors who were finding their way into so many of our
which I can be legally questioned lam always ready to give luriih churches. (Cheers.) He referred to a hat of per-
prewr account to the ordinary my suoenor, to whom I versions nom that district, mentioning, amongst other
aam directly answerable, ,sis. a. Buhop oy Loodon. names, those of the Countess of Arundel, Captain Peken•
I have always done so, and am 'still reedy to do so , but Ido ham, the Duke of Leeds, Lord and ladiFieldincViscount
not recognise the propriety of submitting to be thus clues. CamPlen, Mr. Bowyer' H•Po Mr. wmawl' aLl''' and
tioned upon an occasion such as this. (" Oh, oh," and the Hon. Mr. Cavendish. There was also in-
duce.) I must, therefore, call you to order, and request eluded in the list between 100 and 150 clergy.
you to proceed to the legal business of the day—the election men who had weeded and gone over to Rome.
of a fit and proper person to fill the office of parishioner.' He complained that in order still further to promote the
churchwarden for the ensuing year. ("Oh,* and inter. snows' of the Romanian( system they were pursuing Mr.
ruptma.) Liddell and his friends were trying to get rid of the school-
MIL Weenraros-1 was quite prepared for that answer ; master, Hr. Davis, an honest protestant, who was fully
but I will put another gamic.. (Cries of " Shame," equal to the duties, and had filled the office efficiently for
" Order." and cheers.) twenty-weep years. The excuse was that from their not
The egorawast_ e can only gi
not allowed to conduct ve the same answer— having certificated masters the subscriptionssubscriptionstions to the schools
(" hear "and " oh")—and if i am
fell off. Bat it was the Romancing tendencies of the clergy
,
the business of the meeting and maintain order, I must of the parish that caused the subscriptions to the charities
have the chair. to fail, and not the want of a certificated master. In St.
Mr. Wearer:roe—l expected that, bat I must put the Harnahae, where they had certificated masters, the sub-
question aevertbeless. (" Oh," " mame," and cheers.) scriptions had fallen off to • much greater extent, and the
The CHAIIMAN—Then I must call you to order. (.. Oh, schools were largely in debt. He further complained that
ob." and renewed interruption.) Do you recognise in. upon one occasion, when • charity sermon was about to be
authority as chairman or not ? ' preached at St. Paul's in aid of the House of Refuge, which he
Mr. WNETlZTON—Certaaniy, at present. (Hear.) believed to be nothing else than a nunnery—he was refused
The Commise—Then I call you to order, and tell you the opportunity, which he thought he es churchwarden had
that I rule these questions to be irrelevant to the duties for • right to, of ascertaining what was the real character of the
which this meeting has been called. institution in support of whose funds a sermon was to be
Mr. WISTESTON—Then, sir, I understand you se chair- preached at the parish church ; and upon referring the
rasa will not allow me, upon the occasion of electing church- matter to the Bishop of London that refine' was confirmed.
imam, to put any question as to the application of the (A Voice—"He is as big • Jesuit as Liddell.") He also
Ginter, money. (Hear, hear.) wrote to the bishop about the continued use of the crosses
The an— You may understand what y pi . and other thing; which the judgment of the Privy Council
("Oh, oh.") If you recognise myautbority se chairman you bad prohibited, and the answer was in every way worthy of
will not proceed to put questions which I have decided to „J. C. London." (Hear, hear.) (Mr. Hall read the letter,
be irrelevant to the badness of the meeting ; and if you are which stated that the bishop had no advice or instruction to
net prepared to abide by my decision, I will at once leave give, but that such subject+ should be, if subjects of lawful
the chair, for I enure you it is a position which I have no Presentation, Presented to the archdeacon "the visitation.)
ambition to fill. (Hear, hear, and a voice : "That is what r. Hall concluded by proposing as the churchwarden for
you always do.") the ensuing year their old, and tried, end faithful servant.,
A PAIIISHiroNER—I submit that it is a question for the Mr. Charles Westerton, he himself being so heartily tired
meeting to decide whether the questions are irrelevant or and disgusted at the conduct of the clergyman with whom
not. ("No, no, for the chair.") he had been brought in official communication during his
Mr. WErmeteoo—Put it to the meeting whether the year of office, that he had determined to retire._ (Hew.)
questions should be asked. (" No, no," and " Yes.") In reply to a question from Mr. Blom, he added that the
The CHATRNLX-1 have no question to put to the ' . Pews of St. Pure would seat 1,500 or 1,600 people, but
te ril anthoritY—l win resign the chair. (Cheers And taken by pinions earning from distant parishes. The income
If yen will not abide by my decision—if you win not submit only about 100 were let to parishioners, the others being
lau ter.) of the incumbent arising from pew rents and other sources
PARlBEllmam—You always do. was about 1,800/. a-year, out of which be paid for the eel,
The CHAIM/All—Yee, bosun I have no ambition to take vioes of one curate, leaving the parishioners to provide for
put in these unseemly contentions. ("oh, oh.") the other.
A Voice—We 'hen have • wound St. George'rin-slur
Feet here soon. Yr. C. WINIVRTON then proceeded to address the meet-
put it to the meeting whether my questions are irrelevant
XI. WiarillTON-1 hold that it is for the chairman to tpi• He had hoped last Year when he proposed ..
Mr Hall
Dr. HUNTER seconded the nomination of Mr. Weeterton.
h wardenaln be
or not. (" No, no," " Yes, yea," and a gentle in s should be allowed to retire ; but se he bad found it
t against Mr. Liddell for veg exated tone, " I beg your pardon, it is no such thing.") ne"airYm, t4ny commence
aotsuihsving' complied with and
that after seven or eight years of c p
TbeCiantatte-11 you will mot abide by my authority ea I con—r- court
chairman I will leave the chair-nay are you willing to abide Council,
by my authority or not! neesenry and essential that be should resume the office in
eirried out the judgment
iiii. WIIIITIRTON—yea, if you will put it to the meeting. cedar that he might be in • position tw carryon
that axis
(Cheers, and " Oh, oh.")
A PARIBECIONII—If the chairman is honest be will an- effectively. It having been intimated that he would be pro-
Another PAJUBHIMIR—HoId your tongue ; foe an • 1 cocurn• sm.
ewer the question ;if not, we shall know what to think. should do so Ina got up, and signed in the MUM of • few
posed again to accept the office • requisition that he
hours by at lean one-half of the_pirishionses. Under these
dissenter.ces, although he well knew the great remould-
Other PARISRIONKR—HoId your tongue. What welt'sf i hilitY ef the °Mee' aki the 'hee
he lid determined his
e end
The inierrupUon ad noise here repeated, and the • Peewit it would entail upon him,
... that,
ammon failing to restore ordwaees, ruse, pat on his hat, and iso fir am God gave him strength and ability to do so, he
would accept the trust, and continue the struggle to the
was about to leave, when
It was his intention to have asked Mr.
Mr. exAbinshwardea Hatt roes aged proposed to ad. end (C'heen.)