The Express.
London, England, 1860-03-17 00:00:00

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-FRANCE £ND SAVOY.
The Earl of CARNASVON wished to draw attention to
two very niniarkshie denpatehea which Led been recently
footed respecting the rumoured acoustics of Savoy.
Thu Duke of NIT/CANTLE rid the circular despatch
of 11. Thourcael had rely been received within the
bat 24 boon. It wee a deagotch of considerable com-
pel:ewe, as might be anticipated from the mode in
veto it ea. annoaneed. No time had Si yet been allowed
for toe coned -ratios of that destiatch. It would therefore
be premature for kiln men to poonise th.t it would be laid
ea the ta`de. (Hear, hear.) Me iiss sure the noble earl
swoote owl every meni9er of the house would admit that
there had been no disposiftnn no the isnot the government
to withhold any communications which it was possible to
lay Isetore par:Lament. He dal out recollect any inetance
daring hi. %pennons, in which with such rapidity Lod
alacrity front. .1-'patches had bees laid on the table of both
louses, sad was lactated to admit sometimes with no
little &Trot to the due course of riegotiatkinc. IlleeespptcLa
up to five r six days of the preemie date I.al twee laid on
the table. He looped the osible earl awl othcr, would exer-
am the nt..rert docretioa In riling so rapidly f.. 1 the pro-
litlet ire 14 d.cspatebies, sad in demealisg fn.. the govern-
ment explia.itiuse of the dYaopeaaies which existed
between the dcchustians d statesmen abroad awl telegrams
malawr to mien cueutryis(reer. bow.) TheErtl or 14.1411 UltY aid the answer of the
aohle duke was perfectly fair, for it appeared the despatch
referred to Lad may beau received a skirt tine ago, sad no
adds lord. at hod of may experierce in these matters,
would wish or extract saythuag from the go:ernment which
might he micelsitivone to the public ocrvlce Hut on the
nth r ban I. whilst he gave the governimut the liberty of
answer any question, the motile duke should give
motile lords oft his aide of the boars the liberty of asking
any miNice of the government. (A laugh.) His noble
Inerr I hid seen • telegraphic despatch of peat importance
is the public prate or that inoraing, and he exturalay asked
whether the isivernsasall had received say Mtn .natioa ea
the subject. ae it was lib* that the pen,oeat hod re-
eeiv-vi • dadar telegram hem their aiiiuiseea shaved.

THE TitrIATY W OOKKEICE ANLADDIME..
Tte Eerl of T. ClERJELNEtureweit to their kirdshipe
Nth her Malaity lad appeited 1 detect to-ourrow as the
kw wimps the would reesiee the ithlreth agreed to lath
thAr lerdelipa
I)r due ru.4iime of the Duke of ?them trn-ut • Lowrie
ere. wet 1,. the Home d Comm.. uo Cie th:qrrt.
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PRIVATE HI ILK
On th. ::to4ins at Lord Rinc.u.ur the followi=
arm, a third Maw : And
, Warmapoia„ and 16ii.ortror Railway;
Post Duagumom sad t h Juncta.o Rahway;
Xaut,t,n.. .Vater ; Brampton, Gillingham, &c.,
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DIOCESE OF ROCHESTER.
Vie,nent DUNGANNON wished to know (min some
member of tit gmernmest whether, in the present
to the see et Hairier, it ins Hairier, costentlibitio• toiri=
asy portion of the 'meat diocese, so r to stabile►h •
lesehoprir at St. Abeam ; or whether it was intended to
insider the we sad title of the bishopric of Rochester to
Allows sal to threw the tows of Roamer and Re de.
pesikacks into the diocese of Oinderbury ?
The Doke of NEiroaorli did not deny Hist • are
bed WAR est fee es siditherd bishopric is the diocese
referred to. The west of ignsitor sense d espervlelen bed
keg Wes felt. DM there may rivastegie is treating the
giesties is • whale rather than dealing with it pincemal.
The 11440 keil at the bead al tba prverameet (maim that
an trot • ram Meek mig cesnidseutios. mad Hist it
esild .4 to be Arndt with► sees ineleted ease, intended to
mostunand • idievises for appoistaust to the sweat see,
who wonli bold trims ash' kto each alteration of the dio-
elm se might he seed desirable at a solemnest p.•
risk

THE ATTORNEYS, SOLICITORS, PROCTORS, AND
CENTIPICAW.D CONVEYANCERS RILL.
no wort of mooodasala to AU 101 l woo I:fought up
am.l avoid to.

VALUATION OP RATEABLE PROPERTY (IRELAND)
BILL

The sheet bill pond thr;igh committee.

BENEFIT soca-nor RULES AMENDMENT BILL.
This hill was read third time and passed.
MEASUREMENT or- GA&
Lord REDESDALRpre.eatad a petition from the pis
mater nimatifii:ttustre d Urea' Britain. praying for inquiry
Mt., the ,sane of the delay which heal occurred in carrying
out the pins i mite of the act fur regulating measures used in
the sale
The Duke .4 NEWCASTLE observed that the Board of
Teas It and the Exchequer were jointly commissioned with
the in. CJtiu of the measure. The Astronomer-Royal,
hoe ',cr. hail mind en objection to the pa measurer ; bet
tire resit' 1..! Trade hail come to the conclusion that as
aiii-sduitat of the act was uecemtiy. Coder them cirtnam-
titan e. thi-ro era, reseno t.. !rope that before very lung as
arnin;eni-nr might he come to which would be satidactory
to toe peutomera
AAter a few words from Loci Mrigrgirita,
Lonl KEIWSDALE seal he understood thst the measure-
wilt .4 hal hems turned on fur A 11.41,1 WOO p
an.l he believed at Park, hut I,rtaiolv tiiroughout
an there eran no reason why it should not lie accem=
is tat. country. The regulation .4 weights snit maidens
ls..en considered an imperial question ; and he
had a d.ulit that the act would work welt when its defects
ca-.v ti be discovered by tie matins'! application.

PERSONAL EXPLANATION.
The Duke of AIIOYLL stud that in moving the ad
tneut of tsar 10w... be vri...Led to offer a few woriler:-
plemtion of a seppmed statement al hip with reference le
tMoe hoe. I;rntleinen who represented is parliament very
lazy continental ommitaeliciee---froci which it smeared
that certain soult had fallen from him mat night rash had
hoot oipritaci to be La the effect that those Ma. temehinte
larl 1,-n placed ander • poem] pressure by their emeills.
mete. iapport the Imiuntal whom the gemenment.
awl that Cley were indueuued not by their owe serrielless
bet lo th., rawer of those coorttesecies. /bat was
certainly not the meaning be wished to convey. Vbe
bail .01 way, that it appeared that the votes of those boa.
gentlemen were given not solely an the result of their
individual opinion., het w an expression of the views ef
th.e.c gnat eonititnencies which they represented is pear
moot, and he ith” Duke of Azoll) thoodht he Milebb ben.
thole vote, a. en indication of thermal UNNIMISItiaI
went =toile .4 Cie empire. He or not, however,
mean to gay that lwu. gentlemen had acted se
they . He could only my that an
far from the valae of Ihaee rotes bright liminished is aba obi
my that their value was imeresal by their misleading the
lodiridesl °par es of boa sewebere thesasehes as well r
of theirs s!qiemit'L (INT')

Tbrir Web* adjeuried at i *sr d•.ies to 7 u'elocL

TH4I,

Mienkthigeby the her. edema, the•emembsethe
Werwithaire (Mr. Newilegam), ia • mesh &afraid
beenedating the discussion upon the bleigith OM
be was reported to have stated ethet ia
• , a " slip" of which had beat f to him
bry Ms friend. and whisk he now bald in his hand. The
ripen ta meshes mid thee Mr. Clobiss preteadied to be
what was tanned trerteder and • democrat, and yet
when is Russia he was in favour of • despotic go-
verment, and was now on such does terms of inti-
macy with the Emperor of France that he declared, ad-
withateuelitiu the restnetims on the liberty of the prow--
notwithstanding the French Chamber was what he would
have the Home et Commons brought to--a place to register
the diaries of the French Em he could not yet un-
deemed that the French people had anything to complain
of. Therefore, said the honourable gentleman the
member for North Warwickshire, it amid be little wondered
at that Mr. Cobden should feel little interest in the
people of this count ,or in what he trusted would still
sendintie to be an independent Home o/ Commons. Mr.
grabs continued to say that he understood the statement
made by the boo. gentleman the member for North War-
wickshue was taken from • newspaper published in Man-
chester, and which notoriously had been unfriendly to his
hon. friend the member for Rochdale. His hon. friend had
written him a letter, in which he stated that the entire
of the statement in queetien was utterly devoid dEuuralion. He had never expreseed the statement attri-
buted to him, or the opposite of it, or anything like either,
for he had never uttered a single opinion on the matter. It
was purely fiction. (Hear, hear.) It might be as well said
he had picked the pockets of a French gentleman,
whose name there was no need for him (Mr. Bright) to men-
tion. The boo, member for Roclulaki said further in the
letter to the hon. member for Birmingham —" Prny speak
to Br. Newilegate, and ask hint to retract the statement.
I am utterly astonished that the hon. member for North
Warwickeinre should be capable of propagating such •
calumny on an sheen member of the home." (Hear, hear.)
Now, he (Mr. Bright) had given notice to the honourable
gentleman of his intention to make this statement, end
must say Le felt quite sure the hon. gentleman would
cot willingly propagate a calumny of that sort, eel that it
arose from au oversight, of which, perhaps, they were all at
times guilty, when they fulminated attacks upon political
opconents. He thought, however, after what had been
stated, that the hon. gentleman would at ones express his
ri...,ret at hating been misled into • statement so un-
founded, so that the misrepresentation might be retracted
with se much publicity as it had been made.
Mr. NEWDIGATE said that the hon. ,gentleman the
member fur Birmingham had dune only his duty,
os behalf of an absent friend. The reprint
which the honourable gentleman had quoted was, however,
to a certain extent amend. The report in question was
taken from use of the most leading mem of Collllllllllitille
tins in this country. The bon. gentleman then quoted
from the Times' report of what be had stated, being the
same as that read by Mr. Bright from the slip enclosed to
hie, by Mr. l'olxien, and then proceeded to repeat that the
revert was in some degree inaccurate. He (Mr. Newdegate)
&poke from what be had seen published in • letter from •
private London correspondent of the Maw/seater Guardian,
February 21, 1860. The bon. gentleman then proceeded to
read • portion of the letter in question from the Ezessiner,
which went on to say that the writer wee
sorry to hear reports were in general circulation
by no means complimentary to the soundness
;
at Mr. Colxlen's judgment on the internal affairs of France,
nor were they creditable to him sea citizen of a free coon.
try, sad these reports were founded on the statement of •
nameleref parliament jest returned from Paris, who made
good use of his opportunity of obtains. information there.
He represented Mr. Cobden se entirely Nleunised, to a
degree inconsistent with a lover of free institution., and
that this been effected by the frank acceptance which the
Emperor had given to free-trade principles. Mr. Cobden
said he could not discover what the Preach had to complain
of in the present regime, and in short his devotion to
free mole was in inverse ratio to his love of freedom.
The hem. member then said that he would admit to the
hoe uember for Birmingham, that if he had had no ground
for behryng that there was some truth for what he had
mot, he should 're exceedingly culpable for the statement.
He had, howeve.., noticed the moan of the hon. member
for Rocnii.de during the last eighteen years.
The SPEAKER—The hon. member mart confine himself
to an esdlanation of his statement, if any be necessary.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said he wee vindicating hie iinsidact
when called upon by an hon. member of the house—he
having been the cause of circulating what wan alleged
to be a calumny. He was vindicating his honour
as a member of parlianseet, and he was stating that
he hail perceived in the conduct of the hat member for
Rochdale, that he supported institutions which could not
be COLleille:011 free imuntions, and that that induced him
to believe that the letter to which he had referred, was
founded on truth. He would state what he meant by free
institution. (Oh, oh.) Hon. members would excuse him
if he referred to the institutions of this country, and if he
stated that he believed they embodied a greater amount
of social, religious, and political freedom, than any to be
found in the world. They contained more freedom than
the dame retie institution. of America---or the institutions
id France, Auatna, or Russia. That was what he meant
by free institutious. Now, is 1862, the lion. member
for Rochdale spoke la tamer of the trading classes of
Russia, end ended that their position was most astafactory,
and the hon. member went on to declare—
etir C. DU Uri LAS rose to order. He wished to ask whether
the hon. member ought to be allowed to go on in such a
course. The hon. member for Rochdale had fully denied
what bad been stated during his absence, and he thought it
was not oeupetent to the her. member for North War.
wicks:bin to go on making • statement which bad nothing
whatever to do with the matter emplaned of.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said if he' naile a statement in that
house he would either retract it or confirm it when called
tape to do so. (Hear, hear.) He would show that in 1854
Mr. Cobden not only (cries of "Oh, oh") emit avowed the
authorship of the pamphlet referred to, but he proceeded
to sate at a meeting at which the hon. member for
Birmingham wsepresent, that in accordance with his .pinions
he wen prepared to take measures to prevent the prosecutioa
of the Russian war by this home, mil he mid if they were
to have a war, let there be no accumulation ot debt, no new
tame is the shape of arta= mad excise duties ; but an M-
enem in the imolai, tax to 20 per cent. and down to a lower
range of 501. The has. member for Birmingham followed
by satin that he Meer* agreed with Mr. ()Ades, end
that if • war should break eat, the MOMS tax ought to he
doubled.
The SPEAKER said he did not understand that any ex-
planation was required is regard to the conduct of the bob.
member for Birmingham.
Mr. NEWDEOATE said he had merely adverted to it.
(Oh, oh.) He begged the house to remember that in 1862,
immediately after the death of the Duke of Wellingti.u.
Mr. Coielen published a series of letters in which he aim.
planed that his memory WM honoured is this country as
one of its chief Minden, sad he went on to complain of
the institutions of this country. (Cries of "questioo.-') Hon,
members would exam )im, but he was coming to the pot.
Gerghter.) The ham amber for Rochdale alluded to t inhe
incitation* of Frame to thedisparagement of the institutions
co this count . That was no hasty statement, but issued and
quietly cimtLad. The has. member said that " when he
was told the Emperor el the Trench powered abeolet• and
inespousible power, he did not believe it, for be could not
widow with hied' ad tithes on. nthiMen and mike it the
exclusive paid religion of thestatia, although he selected
the Raman catholic religion, which empanel nine-tenths of
the French people ; lis could not create • landed hereditary
peseue, with estates entailed, sad a law of primo-
geniture; ore could he ilimme • tax which applied to par-
ental property and beet real estates free of duty or devolution.
Public epodes woad be against such nieesures becoming
law,because they would outrage the principles Laid down
le Mt" He (Mr. Newdegate) had given that one extract
he show the genera tame of the letters, which was to de-
=lls insellutiess of this country, and to enthuse
f Pismo& Be praised the fast revolution is France,
hems* it eas • serial rerolutioa, sod overturned the right,
of sore pony. The boa. member for Rockdale disparaged the
iestitutione el Ragland ; and a man who had ever elutes-
ecaurvd to lake means to depreciate the bee retentions un-
der which be lived must be very meths ef them, and must
be dared menet the worst friends of those institu-
tions. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. BRIGHT mid he asked the hem member whether be
was prepared to maintain that which he had suited, or
whether he would retract it; sod bs (Mr. Bright) wee
ilethle to aseerteas whether then bad been any retracts-
hen. (Hear, hese.). lthrhaps the hewn would allow him to
state that the hem member far ltesbiele utterly denied the
statement of the hem usher hr Meth Warwickshire,
awl be said them ems ad me weed al truth in it. The hon.
membar far Bail& mast Mrs beet judge of what he
bad eakL Theban. memberferNeallWerwirke hire aderilled
eat the mk, him ler hie statement was an
would
ROOS kW. Undid in a *at& seeaper. He
Is the Meese jelp between the lion. member for
Warerickslibbon. imenaher for Rochdale. (Hear.)
Mr. 1./SWIM= add be Moot make any nersetation
ef etatesent whit\ he bad made. He had not formed
his judgment from Ile Mlii, tat he had broadly Sated hie
manna for giving hied= m the subject. (Hear, hem.)
The subject then
ADU LT.:RATION OF FOOD OR DRINK BILL
:dr. STEUART gave notice that he should move the re-
commitnerat el this bill, in order that it should be made ap-
plicable to Saitleed and Ireland.
THE OYSTER FISHERY.
In reply to Mr. Cam,
Mr. ELHIRSON said that on a former evening no mo-
tien WM made !army papers, but • question asked, and he
elated that there had been no recent remonstrance on the
pert of the Preach government, and no iocreemed stringency
on
the he of Beglead la carrying out the provisions of the
beefy is rapid to time Weems.
PAPERS RELATING TO THE CHINA WAR.
Lewd J. 1171111 ILL appeared at the bar, and brought wp
further pewee relating to the correspondence with Mr.
Brace al the Chin war, and they were ordered to lle on
HOUSE OP COMMON& •APRIDAY, MAIM 16. the table
THE ARMY INFIKATRIL
The Spasms look the thelr at tea aliautes le four Colonel KNOX asked the right km. gentleman the
**clock. Secretary for War when he woeld proceed with the army
Reim private hills VW. forwarded a .ter. anim ates?
MR. CORD= AND MK. NEWDEGATL Mr. S. HERBERT—Scan night before faster.
Mr. BRIGHT rose and said that before the ranter answer to Mr. PACIIII,
suss d the es.uing cams on, he meld take the apperlsaity The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated that
of ref .rnni to a matter not persona t o Einar elf, bet to his the minion of the malt tax, although el great special kite.
km. friend %hi member for Rochdale. on whose behalf he rest to the parties immedietely emostes4 was not of indfi-
wished to my • few words. The mater arose out of • Sate- , cent senora insportems to *thy its delaying the general