The Express.
London, England, 1866-09-26 00:00:00

LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 26, 1866.

TELEGRAPHIC INTELLIGENCE.

BANQUET TO MR BRIGHT, M.P.,

MANCHESTER.

(sauna's TILIGHANS.) • —.__-
THE PRUSSIAN CHAMBERS. MANCHESTER, Icesney NIGHT.
BERLIN, sir!. 25, EvEmma. , The members of the northern department of the
Ilfdefrn League this evening entertained Mr. John Bright,
To-day, in the full sitting of the Chamber of De-
,to dinner at the Albion Hotel. The chair was
pnties, the debate on the Loan Bill was resumed. occupied by Mr. E. Hoosoe, the president, and a magistrate.
The Minister of Finance made a speech, regretting The gentlemen present were Messrs. Edmond Be-iles
the harsh interpretation put upon the bill in con- Lo.utenant-Colonel Dickson, Alderman it , Jacol;
mittee. He said :—" The position of Prussia is Bright, Ernest Jones, E. 0. Greening, H. M. Steinthel,
not yet decided, peace has not been concluded .B. Watts, jun., Nev. Dr. Parker, Dr. Borokhardt, Bev. S.
ttoast
was
"The
with Saxony, and the relations of the North Ger- i A.The the Mayor of Aahton, lic.
man Confederation to Southern Germany are not
of :I,:teis;n ane p l d the People," and
the next, " The
regulated.regulated.Prussia must defend what she has William EwaEvartGladstone.".„
The Chairmanohnßussellgaandve
acquired, and must always be able to take up arms " The Health of John Bright," which elicited the most
for that purpose. In such a position the un- enthusiastic cheering—the toast being drunk standing.
foreseen often plays the most important part. . Mr. LEUGHT, M.P., on rising to respond was AjAill
greeted with prolonged plaudits. In the course of his
The financial question is the chief point, and if
h the hdonth. member said—Now there are different
the right moment be allowed to pass, the accom platforms,e
i word", but still the ere are vree7gions great
differences in thto°.
pliahment of Prussia's aims may be deferred forroll.
0
years, and her very existence again endangered. to march on to one common end.wor prclkees
re are diff 'noes
Money must be at the disposal of the government. • in this school of politics--the reform school—but still we
We must have our hands on our swords, and our . may all march on to one common end, which is a real re-
purses well filled." The Minister of Finance even- • presentationof the people and the establishment of popular
• power /I
esupreme in this country. (Hear.) Now, although
tunny agreed on the partof the government to all
we some s f
us differ, I believe the d...tlerence arises from
the : mendments authorising a maximum loan of •
-Algae kwarstrashassasfisissemeithallOgi
for.y million orihirty INTlMltfehaleit- Ils VW ; Eon of the League is sufficient, not only for the purposes of r
the sixty million which bad been demanded. 1 the League but of all reformers ; that it is sufficient to

Herr Virchow opposed the proposals of Herr
Von Twesten, and defended the amendment
brought forward by himself.
Count Bismarck then made a speech, in which he
urged the house to consider the bill from a
political standpoint, and place the government
in a position to defend what had been gained.
Official communications proved that the spirit of
conciliation had not entered the Imperial Court
with the conclusion of pesos. Moreover, the
Eastern question might lead to serious European
difficulties, and in time of danger, with
the money market in an unfavourable condition,
the government would not be able to raise a loan.
Should no such circumstances arise, no money
would be expended by the government without the
approval of the house. What had been withdrawn
from the State Treasury last spring must be re-
placed. Count Bismarck concluded by appealing
to the house to trust the government. He then
signified that the ministry accepted the amend-
ment proposed by Herr Michaelis ; and on the
decisive division the bill, with that deputy's amend-
ment, was passed by a large majority.

AUSTRIA AND ITALY.
FLORENCE, SEPT. 25.

At the conferences which are being held in
Vienna a decision has been arrived at relative to
the future commercial relations between Italy and
Austria, according to which the Austro-Sardinian
Treaty of Commerce of 1851 will he extended to
the whole of Italy for one year. During this period
those provisions of the treaty which require modifi-
cation will be examined.

SPAIN.
MADRID, Sin. 24, EVENING.

The Espana of to-day advises the government to
despatch a squadron to the Asiatic ports, which, it
states, will prove a source of prosperity to Spain on
the completion of the Suez Canal.

SWITZERLAND.
EITNE, SEPT. 21.

The Marquis de Turgot, hitherto French amhaq-
aador at the Federal Council, will not return to
Berne.

Baron Reinach has been appointed French charge
d'affaires in this city.
M. de Ischudi has been appointed Swiss repre.
!tentative at the court of Vienna.

make the House of Commons • true representa-
tion of the people. Well, I believe that the
middle claim of this country, speaking of them in
any way that you like, by any kind of measurement or as-
certainment of their opinions—my own honest opinion is
that they would consider at this moment that a bill that
advanced as far as household suffrage was in itself, consi-
dering all the interests and opinions of the country,
wiser measure for a minister to propose than that of man-
hood suffrage, and that they believe that it would give to
the country a really honest parliament. (Hear, hear.)
My view of the whole question of these differences is this—
that when' one sees a real movement, something grand in
its proportions, powerful for the gaining of results—the
plan of a sealable man who wants to do something, and
does not want to split hairs, is to take
up with that movement, to help it, to make
the best of it, and to get all the good he can out
of it. (Cheers.) I was sorry to find from the papers the
other day that some friends of mine—l refer most to one
whore letter I read—in the West Riding of Yorkshire take
a different view of this matter. I read a very fine,
and I am sure a moat conscientiously dictated letter from
Mr. Baines, the member for Leeds, to the committee who
are organizing a great meeting that is to take place in the
West Riding. He declined the invitation to attend the
meeting on the ground that he was not in favour of man-
hood suffrage. 1 don't blame any one for holding such an
opinion. I am not in favour of manhood suf.
frage as against household suffrage. (Hear, hear.)
But the people of Leeds or tho West Riding don't want
to commit Mr. Baines to manhood suffrage by his attending
the meeting. I ate not committed this day any the none
because I have attended these meetings. So far as I have
seen of working men in connexion with this moven', rat
I tind them tolerant in a high degree, and considerate anti
respectful of and to all those who may honestly differ
with them in anydegree, but who are ■till honestlyfriendly
to the admission of any considerable number of them to
the franchise. (Hear.) They would admit all to work, and
we should all work on with perfect unanimity up to
the point where the work parts from us, and falls into
other hands. Make this movement as Lige as
you like. Carry it on from the West Riding to
Northumberland and Durham, from there to Glasgow.
After it has exhibited itself in Glasgow, perhaps at the be-
' ginning of the year it may re-appear in greater proportion
than ever in London. (Hear.) But let it take any propir-
Hone that you please. Finally it will become a question
for the deliberation of twelve or fifteen men who are
the Queen's immediate advisers what shall be the precise
measure presented to parliament. They will have to con•
' hider that which is called the conservative opinion of the
country—the timid opinion. (A laugh.) lam not speak •
lag now of those who are passionately against all refovni,
' and who bate the very name of popular• power, but I
speak of the section much larger that lies between us and
them, who are quiet, stay-at-house people--who probably
read their newspapers, and have as goo d a feeling towards
the working nuns ae any of us have, but who have not suf-
ficiently considered this question who are not
courageous enough in spirit to join in a great
movement like this; but when a cabinet coun-
t cil meets to discuss a measure to submit to parliament,
they must necessarily take into consideration
this amount of opinion. Well now, w ith great deference to
my friend Mr. liaises, for whom I have a most unfeigned
respect, whose cervices in connection with this question
can hardly be over-estimated, I am very sorry that
he and others have not found it consistent
with their view of duty to attend these meetings, to
give to them all the support in their power, to make
of the whole reform feeling and opinion of the country one
grand and powerful force ; because, depend upon it, the
resi•tauce which we heave to encounter is Lot easily to be
sunaminted, and we shall-not in all probability cut en the
I eneie.y in detachments, as he appears always in a powerful
and united body ; am: unless we meet him in some fares
and shape, I kno x Lot how it is possible we can eventually
t: inmph. (Hear, hear.) I believe the time is coining
• when this question must be laid hold of by is
government, and that parliament will feel that it dare not
treat it in future as it has tre :tel it in th, pest. These great
meetings, as Mr. Mill very justly said, are not meetings
so much for discussion as they are meetings for de-
monstration' of opinion, end, if you like, I will add, for
exhihitiou of force. (Cheers.) Such exhibitions, if they
he despised and disregarded, miey become exhibition; of
another kind of force. Now 1 have been insulted in pest
tbacs—not a little inthis very city—by the statement that I
ev:s in favour of peace at any ;lice. I always said that I
was not in favour of war at any cost, which I think ten
years ago my oppments were. (Hear, hear.) I believe
that, however touch any of us may abhor the thought that
political questions in any country should ever again be
settled by force, yet there is something in the cerutitutir n
of oar nature that when these evils are allowed to ran on
beyond a certain period unredressed, the meet peace-loving
of men axe unable to keep the peace. (Hear, hear.)
And bear this in mind, that however much we may wiril
political questions to be settled by moral mean., yet it is
no more immoral for a people to use force in the last re.
• sort for the obt.iining and the securing of freedom than it
is for a government by force to suppress and deny that
freedom. (Loud cheers, the audience rising.) I must
ask pardon of my friends here for touching upon
what may be termed "abstract principles." (Laughter.)
We are doubtless a very long way—longer than can be
measured I hope—from the time when it will be necessary
seriously to consider questions of that nature. (Hear.) I
think that the question was settled in 1832 whether the
changes which may be necessary in the government of
the United Kingdom can be accomplished by peaceable
means, or whether force will be,necessary for their compler
torn. In conclusion, Mr. Bright expressed a hope that when
Mr. Beale. and his League friends retuned, they would show
to the powers that be, to the government that is, and to the
government that shortly, he hoped, would be—(loud
cheers)—that the question of reform bad taken deep root
in the minds of the people, and that parliament might as
well shut its door for every other kind of legislation what-
soever until it consented to pass a bill that should satisfy
the just and moderate expectations of the people.
The hon. member resumed his seat amidst loud cheer-
ing, and the proceedings shortly afterwards terminated.

TURKIIY.
,PARIS, SEPT. 2, EVENING.
The Patric publiiii4 a despatch from Constanti-
nople, dated 12th list., which states that in Koian
Dagh an insurruition had broken out, to which the
authorities the Ives were accessory. The Tut.'Ash
troops had been surprised, and a whole company
cut to pieces.
According to news from Candia, dated the 16th
inst., divisions had arisen betwcen the leadLrs of
the insurrection.

THE INSURRECTION IN CANDIA.
CONSTANTINOPLE, SEPT. 25.

According to intelligence receivi d Lem from
Candia an engagement hail taken lace rear Milica,
in which the insurgents were defeated. Four
thousand Egyptian troop had arrived in the is!and,
thereby raising the number of the Turkish forces to
30,000. Mehemet Pacha had been named Cora-
mander-in-Chief. Four districts had offered to
submit to the Turkish authority.

PROPOSED INVITATION OP MR. GLADSTONE TO
BELFAST.—The Northern Whig of yesterday says that the
financial reformers of Ulster are about inviting Mr. Glad-
stone to a banquet in Belfast, in consideration of his great
financial services.

TEE RISERS COMMISSION. —The royal commis-
sioners appointed to inquire into the pollution of rivers,
&c., it is understood will recommence their sitting early in
the ensuing month, proceeding in the first instance to in-
quire respecting the state of the rites. affeetirrg Cardiff and
swan/ea.