The Express.
London, England, 1856-06-18 00:00:00

(Stamped ld. Additional.)

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT
HOUSE OF LORDS.-TUUDAY, JUNE 17.

IMPRISONMENT FOR CONTEMPT OP COURT.
Lord ST. LEONARDS, is presenting a petition from the
pen ners in the Debtors' Pr son at Blanchester, praying
that all debtors might be brought within the scope of the
tomkrapt laws, celled attention to the hardships under which
those persons Laboured who were imprisoned for crintampt
of the Court of Coat eery. Man) persons in this position Ire-
I omitted incarcerated for years; indeed sometimes their term
of imprisonment ended with life only.
The LORD CHANCELLOR admitted that occasionally
it would appear that gnat bardshi;e were inflicted upon
iadividuals imprintned for contempt, bat the ques-
tion was surrounded with so many difficulties that
he felt himself ■os►le to devise any moons of
getting out of t►e practice of imprisoning in some
eases. Their lordsbi; a would bear in mind that imprison-
ment by order of s e ,art of equity was not to be considered
a punishment; hut only as a 1121 us of enforcing obedience.
♦ man was imprieoned became he would not perform a cer-
tain set, and anion some such method of enforcing its de-
cease 'Meted, the ceders of the tout would become nullities.
As an esample of the difficulties which surrounded
ihe matter, be would mention one actual one
1 which cane under his notice loon after be first
took his seat on the wooleack. The seer was that of a
man who had bens committed In the early days of Lord
I Eidon's ithancellorrhip for refusing to disclose certain facts,
and who remained in prison obstinately &dialog to make
any statement upon the subject until his death, which took
piece but a few meaths ego. If, however, his noble friend
could suggest say method of meatiest the difficulties attend-
ing this subject he should be most happy to give it his most
earnest ciosideration. . .

Lord CAMPBELL had much pleasure is stating to the
h.tuse that under his jurisdiction committals for contempt
w•re always fur a &lair* and fixed period, at the end of
which the prisoner was discharged.
The Excise Bid was reed a *mond time.

To—; 71.;Foratator irdWWielfChools Bill west
through ewast‘twt, ae dio the Williams' inanity
_Bill.
The Comatose' acwodweats to the Oxford Usicenity
Bill were con•idfred and speed to.
Their lordships adjowned at tweaty athletes to seven
o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Yurntom
[Contlosoi frost the IS:press of yesterday.]
The Lusatia Anlsms (No. 2) anland) Bill woo rood •
second Um.
Toe Carotid Jerks Bill ins road • third quo sad yawed.

Is the evening. hir. WALPOLE moved an address to
to the Crown, prying her Majesty to direct that such
modifications may be made in the rules of the satirical sys-
tems of education in Ireland es will 'stand the advantages
now enjoyed by non-vested ichocls to may other than vested
schools now existing or hereafter to he established, what
ever their regulations sight be se to the mode of religious
instruction, provided that no children shall be compelled to
learn any catechism, creed, or formulary to which any pa-
rent or guardian easy object and, provided that the pa-
tron shall be willing to place such schools in csniraion
with the hoard, to permit the hoard's control over the books
to to weed is general Sensation, and to receive officially
the visits of the government inspectors." la supporting
his mods, Mr. Welp.le remarked upon the injustice now
iollmted upon the Protestant Established Chilli eh in Ireland
by withholding from its schools all share of the government
educational greet. This deprivation avow, not from the
direct intention of the law by which the national rotes
was seated, but iodirect y owing t the eireanstance that
in thumb schools religious teaching was employed, and the
florlpstres read,while the Education Board recognised sone
but merely secular instruction. By the changes be bad pro-
posed this isiottutlity would be removed, and the Protestant'
,ellsols allowed to participate in the public grant, without
either altering their own rules or infringing upon the oria-
sensations scruples of the sembers of any other see. To
this proposal the right hove. member said he bad the fall
assent of Lord Derby, the author of the national system of
education in Ireland.

The 11101(0111 was seconded by Sir W. INATECOTS.
Mr. KENNEDY opposed the mollies, °Nonni to intro-
duce aa clement of religious discord late the system of
national natation, which, he contended, had hithirto
worked most admirably and successfully.
Mr. HORBMAN also resisted the proposal on similar
grounds. He dwelt upon the Menton' r.sulta of the pre-
sent system, not merely as promotion education, bat as
asesaging thr :acerbities of religious strife. The infusion
rd a octane spirit hall, he showed, rendered nugatory
previous stump's to establish national education in Ireland ;
and be deprecated any attempt in that direction with regard
to the motion system. No organisation which involved any
interfer-nos with It. tenets of any seetconld pomibly succeed.
It had hem acknowledged Ouse the days of thr
Beformatioa that thellsiuntloa of the Irish people mull
be of a national character. That principle bad been
ackaowledged through ell saemadicin reigns; but invariably
tbrougkout every reign there had been aa impression that
the ignorance of the Irish people was to be attributed to
their religious opinions, sad education had always proceeded
upon the idea of their cooversion. Amordingly schools in
which the principles of the Roman catholic religion were
taught were pat down by sot of parliament, tad parliament
natisming to act upon that action throughout many star
eerie* years, ideation I. Ireland was at length reduced to
• most lamentable state. At the beginning of the penes'
century schools fa Ireland, in feet, ware little
better than esminaries of vice and sedition, and
the leash was that royal 001111014,110611 tad parliameatary
committees wen from time to time appointed to investigate
the 011" 666 illtenset a remedy for that deplorable state
of things. The Int communion was appointed is 1806,
and it reported in 1812 that as plan ef education could site-
end in Ireland which attempted to interfere with the pecu-
liar tenets of say religious sect That was the:opinion of
the first CO111111deli011; and It should be remembered that,
with one 'emetic*, all its members belonged to the estab-
lished ehureh, two of them indeed being arebbklimi, and
one a prelste of the protestant church. The mooed royal
ocismarion was appointed le 1824, end after einem more
years of experience that stommiesion reported to the same
et
et as the former. le 1898 the reports of these two
somminions were referred to a committite of this home, and
that committee also reported their ettavietion that no
system of education would be ezpedient or timid be
suosessful in Ireland which was at all calculated to
interfere with the religion rpisioa of any stet. la 1830,
jest previous tone adoption of the present system, another
parlianteetasy committee was appointed to bovine into the
matter, and t hey recommended thee me further time Mould
be lonia giving effect to the reseemeendallea of the scar
semiste of 1806 sad 1826, and the committee of 1828, whisk
was that a system of education should be established dad
epee the principle of non-iatelforesee with religious
edaleas. Now be wasted to ask, be the first instance, whe-
ther the bows was prepared to say that the views of them
commissions and them csumnittets were wrong ? Were
they now to lay that the system of education a mild he pm-
easeful that eadesvoured to Interfere with the religious
hellap of the great mass of the people ? He believed they
were not, and becaase be thought the effect of this motion
would go to enunciate that opinion he called upon the
house to reject it. If they were to adopt the priaeiples
of the Church Edmadon Moiety it would be taatamment
to directly inter:tying with the religiose persuasions of the
people, and that was Jost what this motion asked them to
do. The Kildarrphoe Ikeriety, which weal upon the maw
eriaelolit, had entirely failed is Its sedum of oilmatios„ and
why should they pat the prods to the Doable and annoy-
aine of mooed trial The system which had decidady
failed in 1833 was hardly likely to mowed sow. The seining
system was established la 1831 by the than Lord ?hanky,
• gmerelly speaking, It had eines them bees Mead most
aseepuible to all seen cud names of the people, with the in-
torsos of a few well-known and influential followers of the
established ebereb. It had bra milked, why should you
Five to all the other meets cad yet ram' the claims of the
dimentiesb ? His answer was that a system was established
in Intend which expellent* showed to be the beet adapted
to meet the wishes and waste of the great micas of the peo-
ple, aad it was not desirable to depart from it
to eemillate a meniforatively few oppeseets. But
though few, the oppeasets of the system were
enzemely infiesetial ; and yet fa spite of all this
powerful opposition, is spite of all Mt se diflioultin,
he could show ilia home that the system had proved mo.t
eneeessfuL It began is 1833 with 1.709 schools sad 107.000
children; in 1854, the period of the last returns, the schools
aumbered 6,178, and the children 641.168 In the interval
between 1833 and 1864, no less than two matte:waited a half
of ehildnu had passed through the schools, while there had
bees employed la the soh o's something like 20.000
Mashers, sad yet thrombosis the wens period there wee ao
iSSISSOS of a simile /10110•11 quarrel having eminent la eon-
mines with say of the wheels. The minutia where the
mehmilaties prevailed won la the provide. of Meter
llua ooter, mimes Ow temp of pusses who meld
asteare red fee write was from 90 M 24 per
esut ; whereas In Commeght, when the system
was less la mew, the average was 70 to 76 per cent.
la thousands's what hod the Church Education flecdory
hem died ? That society Tamagni:dined in the year 1810,
sad am remost is whisk Its pelaelpiss differed hem those
et the Rued of Nuked Edueetioa might be very saw
essay stated. la selhools seder the Natalia Beard the
of the Rely fieriptures was permitted; in these
the Church &only it was enapolsoey. In
Illbens ems Added were permitted to withdraw et the
111Ine tedgffeme kistewsties—la the other, atteseleam wee
41111.111101111 as the maillisa an which secular education
ewe padded. The rule of the Bathed Bowe
remedied sad defamed to the rides cad the mitheeity of
ptrents. Menlo of the Munk Memnon B.elcty lewd
the Meth of weals, sad Matinee no 'Whitby but that of

'OPENCE.

the school maitagea's (Hear, bear.) What, then, had been
the comparative news which bad attended tits two
systems? The right bee. gentleman had relined to •
staCetical table a, ttir g forth the operations of the society ;
but there was one column which he bad pessed over. And
yet it wee oats by no means unimportant to ouneidor—the
column, namely, in which the yearly income of
the society was stated. The greeters number of
children the scc.ety had ever had under its con-
trol was in the year of the famine. (Hear, bear.) In
that year (18481) it bad 120,000 scholars, of whole 46,000
were Roman catholic,. Its i0(00111 was 37,0001. In the
nest you the throw* rose to 39,0001., but the number of
children was reduced to 111,000. (Neer, hear) In 1860,
the amount of income was 38,0001., and the number of
scholars 108,000. In 1851 the ioenme was 40,0001.; the
number of *choler., 103,000. In 1852 the income was
40,0001. ; the number of ICI riser, 105,000. In 1863 the
income was 44,0001.; the number of scholar., 99,000.
In 1864 the locums was 44,0001. ; the number of
scholars, 96,000. Lest year tne amount of income
was 45.041041 while the number of scholars wee
only 90,000. Compare this with the figures of
the National Bnerd. The Church Society bad suffered •
diminution of 30,000 seolsre, notwithstanding an increase
of revenue fusel to 8,0001. • year; and the National Board
bad seen the somber of children under its ears gradually
rise from 107,000 in 1833, to 551,000 loot year. (Cheers.)
The present system woe framed upon the avimed prisoiple
of secluding ern the suspicion of proselytism, and this
distinctive charecteristie it was most imps rant to pri-
mes. The success of the system was pr ved by the
rapid and regular increase in its resu,te. Many eminent
statesmen who et first objected to the principle on which the
National system of education wa■ bounded, had became
eonvineed of its utility, awl even the members of Lord
Derby's government, when in power in 1852, had, after •
fall incoily, declined to disturb the existing arrange-
ments.

Mr. O. A. Hamilton and Mr. Napier supported the mo-
tion, whisk was opposed by Mr. Hughes and Mr. Deasy,
who eahorted the house so• to divert or trouble the pro-
gress of as institution which was now working so bent-
-Bir J. FITZOIRALD moved the adjournment of the de-
bate; on wbisb, after a brief remonatmsee fr ins Mr. Din-
ItABLI, the hose* divided. Ayes, 32 ; Noes. 184-152.
The debate was then resumsd br Bir J. PIl ZOERALD
who spoke a few words in oppt Dittos to the motion.
A division was then isamediate.y taken on the main ques-
tion. There appeared—
For the resolution

Against lO3-1B
The anneoneensect of this ossjonty wss followed by a
vc.cifsrocs cheer from the op, osito o.
The remaining Doziness ma the p‘per being disposed of,
chiefly by postpoasment, the house &doomed at a gamur
past oce o'cloak.

METROPOLITAN BOARD Of WORKS.
Yesterday an adjourned special meeting was held
at the Guildhall for the pup, se of further considering the
report of the engineer of the board on the 'towage intercep-
tion arid main arc rage north of the Thome.. Mr. Were
haviog intimated his initiation to support the original
mo-
tion (proposed at the former meeting), Mr. L. site, seconded
by Mr. Doultoo, proposed as an SIDI adment, " Thst it is
inexpedient to discus the engineer's northern drainage plan
in section*, as the position of the outlet is undetermined."
The emendment was negatived by 14 voles to 6. After some
farther diecusion the original motion (adop•ii g the report
of the engineer so far as it tel tett to the mein high level
sewer and the middle level sewer with its branches north of
the Themes), was carried by 17 to 9. Mr Caeproael then
moved, "That the report of the engineer, so far as it re-
lates to the writers district sad the construction of deodo-
rising works, be adopted." The report rated that fc r this
area the eagineer recommended the establishment and main-
teesnee of works for poetising its sewage waters, and then
dietherging them Into the Thames within the limits
of the district it'elf, instead of conveying them through
the low level sewer to Barkisg.ereirk. If the sewage was
discharged into deodorising works at Ketaington-canal
the aspens' would be 817,0001., but it conveyed
to Barking.creek it world involve en outlay of
1,166,0001. Major Lyon seconded the traction. Mr. Leslie
strongly opposed it Mr. Howe said it was question-
hie whether the levee matter could be sold after ft
wu undue d, and if cut on the books or the Thames It
would be a greater subsea than the prevent pollution
of the river. Mr. Wright also opposed the motion,
which, after some farther discuesion, was rejected by 22
votes to 4. A motion " Thet the report of the engineer, so
far as it relates to the werem district, and the o netruction
of works for pumping tee sewage sod drain water into the
level newer, be adopVd," was then carried by a majority of
18 to 6. The next question wen SS is the point of mitten.
Mr. Carporsel and Mr. Wright hoped the board would
adopt toe recommendation of Mr. bthelgetts for the out-
fell at Backlog creek. Mr. Farago ejected to the outran
being within the limits of the =amp he, and moved an
amendment (seconded by Mr. Dennis) to that effect. The
ameadment was negatived by 16 votes to 11.
The original motion (or the cattail at Bark-
lag-creek) was then put and carried by a ma-
jority of 15 to 12. Mr. Caromed moved a reeolnlion to
the effect that the bard spier reed of that part of the report
of the so gineer so far es it related to the low level sewer, and
that it be referred to the committee of works sad tumefies-
meats, to ?spirt upon it so far as it bed ref to the em-
bankment of the Thames. Mr. Wright seconded the mo-
tion. Mr. Taylor then moved "Teat the consideration of
this subject be aij mined till Thursday week," which was
agreed to. The eosin then edjusreed.

EXHIBITION OF ART TREASURES AT
MANCHESTER, 1857.

A preliminary meeting of railway delegate* took
place a few days ago, at Bustron-rqoare, Loodoe, the object
of which was to consider "the general faciiities which
should be given to the E.bibition of Art Treasures of the
United Kingdom, to take plate in Manchester, nest year,
under the immediate patrousge of bar Mikity and Prises
Albert." There were present the managers and other
toadies akin of the London and North Writers, the
Lancashire and Yorkshire, the North Restore, the Mitiked,
the Macchester, Sheffield, end Liecohnhire, and the South
I Jasetion (Maschester) Rrlways. The probability that
the Inhibition Committee would endeavour to Bx upon a
site conrigeous to one of the railways in Manchester was
stated, but it wee not eoesidered esledient on the rant of
the railways in say way to interfere rr express any opinion
ea
to the sits for the fireweed building.
The resolutions of the meeting west to recqmmend to the
respective beards that they 'horrid rue en adequate number
of emigrates trains from all surrounding towns tot the conve-
nience of viidion to the exhibition,' ging with the exhi-
bition committee, hereafter, as to the date at which such
testes shell bogie to res ; that the excursion fares shall be
flied at each rates as will induce and d. valor the male, and
shall, if desired by the ezhibition committee, Include the
fee of estrum* to the eebib,rion, the scale of charges gene-
rally adopted for the Great Esbibition of IBM being sug-
gested as a model.
Other moieties& were adopted in reference to the facili-
ties fora eonesyeeee of articles, &c , to the sahlhitioe. The
Beath Easters, Br.ghtee, and South West. re Railway
Congeals, being in correepocidenes with the continental
railways, are MIAs spatially ievited to co-operate by through
rates with p 1 WO es the emtinent.
A statmaest bee bees pablith•d that the committee have
decided apes the Melia pureed at Ol I Trafford, Manches-
ter, for the proposed ezhinition building, that a design by
Mr. Edward Belomens, architect, has been accepted for the
and that a eestraet tendered by Me•rs. C. D.
Young sett Co.. of Loudon end (Rogow, hos bees decided
upon for till buildingcwhiih Is to b. of iron. We ere re-
quested to say thee ell the.* ststemeets are incorrect, the
executive having es yet not made their arraneentente for
the graced. Until that is done, it is obvious ih.t the de-
eisioa as to plane and contracts cannot be taken.

THE ROYAL NAVAL SCHOOL. NNW Cum.—Yoder-
day the animal distribution of peters to the pupils in this
lastitatioe, took plate at the School, New Crow. Admiral
Bowles presided, and seas supported by ln•d Batista*,
Admirals 111sysell, Sir W. Opel, Sir C. Ogle, and W. A. B.
Bassilten, sod various other gentlemen. A e.toilsetory
amulet wee give* of the programs of the torrool sad the
uniform good conduct of th. 250 Imitates. R•porta were
read by the RI.. Dr. Homey (C.sesicr). Rev. F W. Tinter,
(Ilathemottes), and Professor Delille,(Freneb), all of which
alluded in high terms to the ability evinced DV the paella
in the respective departments. After the distribatioti of the
prises, the nusserous eempsay a4jourard to the 'theory,
where they partook of Isselisee. The " het able' up" of
the pupils followed, had shortly after the eompany sepa-
rated.

TIM RIONTs or Cuturrtalts tx Toast.—At a
meeting bald et Brigham ifs Mooday, the Bieber, of fore-
sails (Giotto) delivered • leoptbeard address es The
State sod Prospects Piotesteatehristiaes is Pslestise sad
Abyselisia;" sad la tbe seem of Vs critics he alluded to
the remit Arena itased by the Bolts* is to the rights of
Christiaas la Turkey. His lores%ip °lnured tbst tt wee
tr.seidered by wise • poem of 'lest hop.; but those who
were etqaaiated with lite Talkie/ stiareiver, sed the imams
of that swiatry, espeeted r (rhino to mut fro= it, sales.
Saataad co•pollad tbe Talbott poveraewei to kg- p her owa
lows. It Me the daty of tee Itaithsh poverawstt to tee
that those lain mite sifted aria, by midis( easiest sad
quilled Costal. everywhere, who would by fliwk of to
*dr tatotoessat; or, otherwise, Europe would be de-
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