The Express.
London, England, 1858-05-07 00:00:00

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could possibly take. What did they mean by a voter
Bundy • person who bad some degree of intelligence and
freedom' of &Men Instead et supporting the proposal now
made, it would be better logo a step lower, and give universal
suffrage at our.. (Rear, bear.)
Mr. CALCOTT did ass believe that there was any danger
of
of Soot& grogristars subdividing their property for the sake
essaalug votes.
Mr. CILAIIIPIIRD said that the fact of this measure being
by a amber ice an English borough C was evidence that there was no great demand fur the
In &Wend. • party had taken up the question and tried
to it at the hat slaction. He was sated at the hustings
wherher he would support the 40.. freehold franchise. He
sastrursd in the nagativs, and Mt justification told his hearers
what tog plain in England with a 40s. franchise. (Hear,
boar.) But, before creating a freehold franchise, they most
lest got their tresholders ; for there wee no such dam at
rime. Still, ha would not resist the introduction of the
bill, but meld allow the question to be fully discussed, pre-
pared
_to abandon any erroneous opinion he might have
formed. The real way to sasimilate the franchise of
England and Illoodamd was to extend the franchise of own-
that
shaeltipsarr • sail be clove an amendment in the bill so
amt.

Yr. STRUART believed that the measure would be in-
jurious k• Ilioodend, judging from the effect which a forty-
shgllng Inaohisepsydnoed in Ireland.
Lord ELCRO sierrved that many member had argued
the bill, and yet would vote for Its introdnetion.
Warr, hare.) It hod been eleerly shown by the Lord
Advert:oe end pilules that the MU would bee delusion.
Mr. MACK would support the bill, though he did sot
Wien that k wound insindlste the franchise of Bcotlaud ten
that of Ingland. (A ) He did not think that it
wild be any ad to Scotland to heve the rote toasty
bunehise r Hagler/ bad. It was desirable that the amount
of gealloseten should be lowered is the Scotch counties ; for
there was no more desirable franchise than that which
ratted upon psoperty. It the bill were allowed to go Into
osemkts• eves medal amaadteenteeiabt be introduced ; at
as evnet• the dimegion would be of
Mr. BLAME/VIP mad It apprised that 01 these Wes-
bon who weld vote for the introductbas of the bill only
three peoisseed to approve of in There were only sixteen
petitions in its favour signed by some SOS pursue. Thin
Awned the abortive charaster of the agitation that had been
canted on.
Mr. CAIRD having briedy spoken in reply,
The bowie thin divided—

Ayes
Nose

et
101-10

TDB CAGLIARI.
Mr. IC INGLAHR intimated that in order that he mirrhe
bare time to make himself acquainted with the papers W
on the table opts this enliyect, ha would postpone the :notices
of which he bad given notice till Tuesday week. (Hear.)
Mr. RIITT—Is it intended to lay on tits table the paps
referred to by tbs Under fiecretary for Foreinn la.
the debits cm Tula y night to reference to the nagalimisam
relative to the Danubian provinces P

The onexcELLoi of the EXCIIEQUEL-,-11
would be net inconvenient, and tame than inane
vondent, to lay paws ou the table relative to. Digo-
danse that me still going on. lay bon. Sinn spoke
at the docents*e in question in illnernion of as sa-
mosa daring •debate, and thinking that the inteneades
van be batereetin,t to the house ; but to present thus at
Fenn would be Mem:intent with our duty. (Hew.)
Mr. LYtiON withdrew his motion for a bill to alter end
mead the law of church rates, explaining that his any
object was flat some plan of oomproone should bedevilled in
which all sides would omen. In the hope that this resin
or the next an amicable settlement wend be arranged, he
bl7g!take the notice from the paper.
IPEASE mond that • mange should be addressed le
the Lords, asking for • copy of the annum Owen by the
judges, on the 16th of February last, in the else of "Cooper
V. Blade." The came referred to the travelling meters of
voters at elections, which were disallowed by the Enna
Vlleice*

Mr. fistjeent DBASY seconded the moths, belenagspoft
the necessity of &borne tenche mats of tile law on this
point, which
to
mu incenvecieme, and LA can-
Mate@ open to vexatious prosecutions on the chirp of
The
The HOME SHCRETAR.Y smutted to the motion, and
stated his intention of introducing a bill on the insesion.
After • fsw remarks from Mr. J. D. Fitsgmald, Mr. V.
South, and Mr. Crow, the motion was aimed to.
The monad reading of the Government of India Bill
was postponed for •• fortnight on the motion of Lord
PALMBTON.

- The Dniiaia County Palatine Jurisdiction Bill was read
• second tine, alter a short conversation.

PROPERTY QUALIFICATION BILL.
Mr. L. KING, in moving the second reading of this
bill, would detain the hones a very few moments. He
did not seek to altar a very ancient law. The
present act was Used on a statute pseud in the !trigs of
Anna, followed by another in the reign of George IL Under
those net; coupled with • shafts of the present ate, mem-
bore were required to Taalify;behre theycould take their mate
in that house. Oat of this had grown up the practice of giv-
ing fable declarations, i. a., of gentlemen representing them-
✓elvet as owners of property in which they had really no
beneficial interest. Some persons were allowed to take their
seats without qualifying, and there was no reason why that
should not be the case with all. The law, too was full of
anomalies. The member for Liverpool, for intimate, need
only qualify to the extent of 3001. a: year, while
the member for Rutland must qualify for 6001.
The law in fact wee but the relic of an attempt to keep per-
sons practising certain opinions out of the house. Without
going into the question he might remind them that many
persons held that extreme. opins ought to be repreeented
three if only by way of gaiety-valve. He trusted that the
measure would not be opposed by the government, as he
could not bat think that all must feel that the time had come
when the anomalies of the present system should endure no
kerRENTINCIL said he would net at that hour, and in
the then state of the house, attempt to oppose the measure.
(Hear.) But he could not let some remarks of the bon. mem-
ber pus without observation. The hon. member told them
that the original object of the enactment in question was to
exclude all persons from that house except landed proprietors.
If any proof to the contrary was wanting, it would be lona
in the (act that there wee a broad distinction drawn between
boreuo and county members, the latter requiring doable the
quabfioadom of the former.
Mr. L. KlNG—They were both in land. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BENTINCH —The original object was, be thought,
a sound and rational one. It was, that there should not be
in the luaus men whose financial position was each as that
they mold not devote themselves exclusively to the business
of the house without prejudicing their own affairs, or without
subjecting them to temptations which were said, however
unfairly, to beast members of that hones. If the repeal of
this law was carried it would be likely to introduce into the
house a number of persons whose financial position would
not allow them to devote themselves exclusively to their
public duties. The hon. gentleman had quoted exceptions,
but they only proved the rule that he (Mr. Bentinck) had
laid down, namely, that the original object of the enactment
was to exclude per eons such as be had described. He
would not go into the question of the advisability of intro-
ducting into the house persons of extreme opinions, to which
he was inclined to agree—(hear, hear)—for he thought that
house a great safety-valve, and that persons who out ofdoors
were distinguished by extreme opinions, when they came
into the house very soon modified those opinions. (Hear,
hear.) If there was to he no property qualiaoation for outs
in that house, taking human nature se it was, and knowing
that In certain cirournatarrote men were open to temptation,
you ought to aware purity of patriotism by doing away with
salaries fee public °Mose, and so let members of that limn
be planed above temptation. When that was dons this mea-
ner might be extremely beneficial. How that state of Wily
would be received on either ads of the house he could not
say—(" hear, beer," Sad hught•O—but you ought to place
members by some snob moans beyond temptation.
Mr. MILES said that es the hon. 'mambo, kw Norfolk
with his daemon conkl not of coarse accept may ohs, it
*add be era= to go on with the argument with him.
(Roar, hear.) Bat at primal 3001. a year enabled •mu to
Mead }oar • borough. Did any one suppose that beathes a
mere had 3001. • year he was placed beyond the oraelt of
lemptettica t (Hear, hear.) Had not the house been lug
• en for had every member really the wee-
eery r (Cram.) He believed not. (Hear.)
um, the sot mix this antesot cep with the Moroi Trot-
ties, was only an arterial reform of their own house.
(Rear) It a 101. householder chose to represent him
• perish of ability who had nee 300/. a year,
be ought to have the power of sending Nita to
that home. (Hear, bear.) He looked to Boatload.
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