The Express.
London, England, 1860-06-13 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS. WEDNESDAY EVENING. JUNE 13, 1860.

' amount of handicapping which hail token pier of late
years. Lie regretted that ; but at the same time he saw
that in the present state of the turf, and cer-
tainly exte as it was throughout the casstry,
it was quite impoesible to carry on ruing without an infu-
sion of the handicap elemese, and • very mania of
harralesn smormiest would be lost if . were
done away with altogether. On the other hand, not
den that ban -,iir did afford considerable facilities for
lag Awes But he thought these abeam did
net depad apace the pester or lase amount of weight ; they
depeadad of the handicap it.elf, the object
of the hasiaadionpperalf= to deceive others sa to the quality
of their horses ad their of carrying weight The
noble iced having to the statistics of the turf as
showing that hones were run upon much shorter training
than they win nen ago, it might interest the noble lord
to hear the eacaparison which be (the Earl of Derby) had
made between the different ages of horses which were run
upon the toff in the years 1829 and 1859. The list he had
onisultod, it was true, contained only the number of hones
which woe in the former year, and the whole number which
tan in the biter, had from these numbers a comparison
might easily he made. In the year 1829, of two-year-olds
the number whist' won was 55, the number of three-
year-oil borer which won wee 394, and of all agm above
three years 179, nada( a total of 528. Thus the propor-
tion of two-paraids which won in 1829 to three-year-okis
was as 2 to 7 ; the proportion of twoleartilde to the whole
number 'above three years was as 1 to 9j, and the pro-
portion of thrswysar-oler to hones above Ulna years
was about 5 to 7. In 1859 the whole number of
hones that ran was 1,666 of different ages ; of those 588
WON two yens old, 304 three years old, and there were
591 of all ages above three years. Thus the proportion of
two year old horses to three year olds, which ern 1829 was as
2 to 7 in 1859 was r 8 to 7 ; and the proportion of three
year Olds to older harm, which in 1829 was nearly as 5 to 7,
in 1869 was kr than Ito 3. He mentioned these foots to
show that if hone were not kept to training for the pur-
pose of being in a handicap, when handicaps were in a
much lees proportion than they were now, than was
' a much larger proportion of young horses formerly Malt
there was at present. ills noble friend objected this then
handicaps tended to durum* good hones and to gin
great advantages to bad and inferior horses ; and the very
character of a handicap wee that you must frame your han-
dicap ao as to give a moderate three-year-oid Si fair a
chance of winning as a superior four or six-year-old, For
that purpose you must have a rage of from 4j to 5 stone.
If you limn with an amount of 7 none—though his noble
friend had now reduced it to six—the consequence would
be that in all handicaps the superior old horses would
have to wry 11 and 12 stone,. and the =
dicap run would be left to inferior horses
would have the advantage of being ridden by jockeys
_Sari
of boys. The good horses would then he &bead* en-
eluded from handicaps, whilst at present they he a dot
chance. But when his noble friend said that hewn That
could not awry six stone ought not to be kept in holds&
and were good for nothing, he was mistaken, for he (the
Earl of Derby) could mention hones that with six stone on
their backs could Dot live at a racing pace for three
but which were quite competent to carry his nor=
scram country for hours up to any hounds in 12
was impossible in all ma to have evii-
Mies combinedwith 1111011Milii effort in id
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to an inferior class, and that he was imagable of
useful for racing pmposs. When the noble Teed said it wee
more difficult to miters now than formerly, he must
remember that hunting was • different thing to what it
tormerl7 was. Perhaps the noble lord would like to go out
at six o clock in the morning on • long slow dreary drag be-
fore he found his for., and ride at six or seven miles an hour
for the remainder of the day. Doubtless for that pur-
pose our racing hones were not precisely the aol.
mals— (" hear, hear," and • laugh)—but he (the
Earl of Derby) believed that if you wanted ani.
male combining bone and blood action and speed, sinew
and endurance—the character of the English horse never
stood higher than it did at present in every part of
the world. (Hear, hear.) If his noble friend wished to do
away with light weights and gambling on the turf, he
should also do away with light weights as they applied to
steepkchasing. He (the Earl of Derby) never saw but one
in his life, and be never wished to see one again. In that
ease there were heavy weights, long courses, and old horses.
The lightest weight put up was get. 716.; yet he ventured to
say that with regard to the character of the race, the amount
of gambling, and of danger to horses and men, and the num-
ber of serious accidents, there was no comparison between
Eat races and steeplechase.. He did not mean to deny that
there were evils inseparable from handicaps, but those evils
did not depend upon li gist or heavy weights, but upon the
character of the -handicappers. He (the Earl of Derby)
professed his belief that for the interest of the turf he
thought their lordships' intervention might be more advan-
tageo used than in raising the weights as the noble lord
proposal. What would be better would be the absolute
prohibition of all two-year-old rem. (Cheers.) There was
one reason why he thought it desirable that all weights
should be somewhat higher than they were at present. It was
not on account of the denim to the little boys, but on ac-
count of the great difficulty there was in procuring jockeys
to ride old hones under the present light weight system.
As soon as a jockey strived at Sat ilb., he had comps:a-
-1 tively few opportunities of riding, and the great amount of
riding wan monopolised by the boys, who ranged from 6et.
51b. to Ist. 1011 i. When • jockey got to list. 5111 or 84. Tlb.,
the labour he had in bringing himself down to the required
racing weight had cost the life of many a respectable man.
He might here state that this subject was under
the serious consideration of the Jockey Club, and • notice
had been given for the next meeting to consider the subject
of raising the weights for the Derby and other races from
dst.‘7ll). to fist. 10 lb., and • proposition was also under
consideratioe, and it had his cordial (*marrows, for raising
weights on handicaps from a minimum of Ist. nb. There
were many boys who could ride as well as any men, and
who in the beetle of • race would be perfectly masters of
their bones under circumstances where his noble friend
would find himself very considerably in a dr.. (Hear,
hear.) The prevention of gambling and the improvement
of hones were no doubt desirable, but he did not think they
could be touched or promoted by this measure. He did not
think the treble lord had established such a case as to in-
duce their lordships_ to legislate on the subject when all
legislation was a failure. He thought that after the general
opinion expressed by their lordships, the noble lord would
do well to withdraw the bill without giving them the
trouble to divide. (Cheers.)
Lord REDESDALE offered to their lordships a
few words in reply before he followed the
coarse which had been recommended by the noble earl.
After what had fallen from the noble earl, and after the
declarations which had been made by so many eminent
members of the Jockey Club, he would not prom the bill.
But as the noble earl talked of the older jockeys growing
nervous, he would only read a sentence from • letter which
helm) received from • practical man. The writer asked
who had ever heard of • rider in the Derby being nervous ;
and the reason was that there were in that race no children
employed as jockeys. (Hear, hear.)
The bill was then withdrawn.

The Duchy of Cornwall Limitation of Actions Rill passed
through committee.
A 1.134 &mance took place on the report of amendmenta
on the t Dion of Benefices Rill, io which all the principles
sad details of the measure were dealt with, principally by
members of the episcopal hooch.
)Li.LICIOUB INJURY TO PROPERTY ACT AMEND-
MENT BILL
This bill was read a third time and passed.
Their lordahips thee adjourned at five minutes past ten
o'clock mail Thursday.

HOUSE OF COMMONS. -7-TvisDAT, JuNi 12.

(Costiaued from yesterday's Etyma.)
ANNUITY TAX (EDINBURGH) ABOLITION BILL
The succeeding clauses izzinased, up to clause 14.
theta ft The CHAIRMAN the program, and the sitting
was suspended at 4 &doe
The home rammed at 6 o'clock.
NWOLITAX AFFAIIIB.=BOMEARDXF.NT OF

PALeaMo.

Mr. H. B. SHERIDAN asked the First Lord of the
Treasury whether it was the intentiou of her Majesty's
government to illeteaell our naval forces in the Sicilian
waters, in order the better to afford aid and shelter to such
renal as might claim protection from the Euglish flag ;
whether it 11/ I intended to communicate to the court of
Naples the abhorrence of her Majesty. government of such
acts as the recent bombardment of Palermo ; whether it was
iatm.,led to accompany such communication with a recom.
miedation to conduct the war in future upon the rules re-
cognised in ciriliaed warfare ; and whether it was the inten-
tion of her Majesty's government to protect aping, and if
esesesary vigorously to endeavour to avert, the interference
of aay power in the struggle now pending
between the King of Naples and his subjects.
Laid PALMUSPON—Sir, in answer to the first of these
qualm I lime to state that my noble friend at the head
of the foreign department has requested the Admiralty to
elation one ship at Mamie, one at Messina, and one at
Palermo, and four ships of war are to be stationed in the Bay
of Naples., and for the of afford* shelter to each
persons as may claim peat soma from the Eaglish flag. I
should hope that distribution will by sufilkient and satis-
factory. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the second ques-
tion, we understand that the government of Napless has
sent diplomatic Rime to Paris and London, who may very
shortly—within two days—be expected to arrive here for
the purpose of making some communications to the two
governments of France and England. I end the house
will not for a nieueut doubt that in commonicatioos which
may be made to that envoy we shall express those feelings
which her Majesty's government, in common with every
one in this country, feel in regard to the barbarities com-
mitted at Palermo—barbarities which are really diagraceful
to the present age and civilisation of Europe. (Hear,
hear.) With regard to any expectations that such repre.
mutations may have any beneScial effect upon the future
conduct of the govenunent of Naples I auutot venture
to lead the house to entertain any sanguine hopes. The go-
vernment is far more likely to follow the tome adopted in
the cam of the sacking of Perugia and the memeres which
then took place, vim, the promotion of the ollicen who
committed these atrocities. Those adhere, naval and mili-
tary, who conducted the operations received promotion
from the Pepsi goverinneet, sad it is far mare hkely that
the officers recently enrOeyed will ace remise punishment,
bet that they will reee- tokens of rewind hem the royalgoveruavet cif Naples. (Bair, hear.) WMk regard to the

lamplitr tion' we know that the Neapolitan government Las
a for magmas to its foreign allies—that is, to gua.
manse the possession of the Two Skills to the King of
Naples. Austria has positively and peremptorily refused
to interfere at all in the affairs of Naples. (Cheers.) We
have every reason to believe that the determination of
the French government is 'imam to that of Austria—
(oheen)—asd I need not say what the feeling of the British
governmentf must be
ortune 0 governments un conduct of of
tike tthe M
hoes ont. It
Rome and
and
Naples when, by the atrocities they have committed, their
subjects have revolted and have been drives into despera-
tion. that they have appailed to all friendly powers for
assistance to remove and put an ad to the authors and in.
stigaton of the revolution. Those goverment' forget that
they themselves are really the *gird memo and instiga-
tors of these revolutionary elersento—(beer, hoer)—and that
if their prayer were maid end one Ware to aseresplish
what they desire, dem, what bo vary ualikely, they
should alter their own mem the bat and nod effectual
step would be their inns rairpriL (Laughter and cheers.)

THE mrurie.

Lord BURGHLEY asked the Secretary of State for War
whether • militiaman absenting himself without leave
(11{
-b addition to the lass of his tley's pay, necessarily
Odell a portion of his bounty, and if such was the case,
whether it might not be advisable to modify this portion of
Ifte Militia Act, so that the interference with the bounty
iseald be left to the discretion of the commanding officers
the several regiments.
Mr. R HERBERT said if • militiaman absented himself
the whole of the time he lost the whole of his bounty, but
I only for • portion of the time it was left to the discretion
d • board of officers whether he should loos a portion or
the whets. He did not think it= to make the altera-
tions width the noble lord had .
ELECTION COWITEES.
Mr. WARNER asked the First Lord of the Treasury
whether it was intended to introduce any meaeure for amend-
ing the oonstiliatien or procedure of election committees
Sir G. C. LEWIS said he might state that the expo-
&Duey al altering the constitution of election committees
Lad tem considered at some length by the committee ap-
pointed to inquire into the Corrupt Practices Act, and a
peat deal of evidence bad been taken upon the subject, and
which was now on the table of the house. The result was
that they did not recommend any alteration in the coast,-
intim of such oommittem, and therefore be was not pre-
pared to state that the government had any intention to
a bill to that effect But it would be necessary to
prop
w:th the act to precept corrupt practices with a view
of renewing it this sesami.
COLONIAL MILITARY EXPENDITURE.
Mr. CHILDEBS asked the Secretary of State for War
whether government would propose to refer to a select
committee the subject of colonial military expenditure.
Mr. S. HERBERT mid he thought the government would
be able to deal with the question without referring it to a
select committee of the hones.
MILITARY ATTACHES TO FOREIGN 00IIRTB.
Mr. 0. STANLEY asked whether it was true that
Colonel Hamilton had been appointed Military Attaché to
the Court of Prussia, and whether it was the intention of
the the go
to appoint military attechis to the other
c of
Lord PMBERTON said he would answer these
questious. The government of France had appointed mili-
tary attaches to all their missions at the principal courts of
Europe, and the Minh t bad long bad a military
officer m Paris. It had n thought expedient to appoint
an officer to the minion at Berlin. But he mould sot state
to what extent his noble friend at the head of the Foreign
Office intended to carry out these appointments. (Hear.)
Si, J. PAKINGTON wished to ask the noble bed
whether the government of France had lately atissited •
naval officer to its mission in this country, and I so
whether the British Government intended to seed a naval
officer to Paris.
Lord PALMERSTON said the government of Frame
bad recently attached a naval officer to its mission in this
country, but he did not know whether his noble friend would
appoint a naval caw to reside at Paris.

Stanley bad resolved to maintain a local army to the extent of
two-fifths of the European force. Lord Canning was in
favour of a local forte, and Colonel Durand, who had been
sent home by the Governor-Oeneml charged with the
considered that the proposed number was too
and he required at least 24,000 artillery ; the
local force to be two-thirds of the whole European
force. This shook his previous opinion, especially♦ coupled
as it was with the conduct of those who bad been the
company's European troops, while it was found the
expense of the Queen's troops would be much leas than
had been calculated. The question then was not whether
an existing local European army should be maintained, but
whether a new one should be raised. It was necessary to
maintain • large European army, and the question was,
whether the greatest part of that army should be load,
and that two different set. of troops, raised and organised
on different principles, should be employed in the same
service and under the same authority, a very dif-
ferent state of things to that which prevailed
when the company's ride was in existence. The
right hon. gentleman then reed a number of extracts from
letters giving opinions favourable to the plan he was pro-
posing ; among the writers of which were Sir J. Outram,
Sir W. Mansfield, and Lord Clyde. One great argument
in favour of the plan was, that the expense attendant on it
would be 200,000/. less than that required for the main-
tenance of local troops ; while it appeared to him, not-
withstanding opinions of weight to the contrary, that India
could be adequately garrisoned by the Queen's troops of
the line.

r 7 SEYMOUR rose to move the adjournment of the
debate. ((ries of " Lord Stanley.")
Lord STANLEY said he had risen for the same purpose.
He wished to know to what day the debate was to be held
adjourned.
So. C. WOOD feared that, on account of the army esti-
mates, it could not be sooner than Thursday week.
Colonel SYKPN was ready to accept the challenge which
had been thrown down by the right hon. baronet, and
hoped to be able to prove the necessity of a local army.
The hon. and gallant member was proceeding to read an
opinion of Lord Canning but was called to ord
's,er.
Lord PALMERSTON hoped that having heard the able
statement of his right hon. friend, the house would consent
to the adjournment of the debate.
Mr. AYRTON thought the course proposed by the go-
vernment would be the more convenient come for taking
a regular and proper debate on this most important subject.
After a few words from Sir E. Cot IC/3EOOILE and Mr.
LIDDELL,
Sir C. WOOD said he would consent to the adjournment
of the debate until Thursday week, in deference to the
general wish of the house.
After some further conversation, the debate was ad-
journed accordingly.
PASSING TOLLS.

Mr. FIENWICK moved that the howe go into committee
to consider a resolution for leave to bring in a bill fur the
Abolition of Passing Tolls.
The home went into committee accordingly, and leave
wan given to bring in the bill.
TRANSPORT SERVICE.

;;- of
Upon the motion o Mr. LfaneAY, the ect committee
via nominated on the tra=r7i.oe.
BURIAL GROIJNDf336NT ACT (1956) AMEND-
Mr. H. HERBERT obtained have to bring in a bill to
amend the Burial Orounds (Ireland) Act (1856).
LOOOMOTIVE BILL.
This bill was committe4ro forma
The Councillors of and Burgesses (Scotland) BID
was read a third time,
The other orders of the c&11;8:1;ing been disposed at, the
home rose at one o'clock.

husband and another girl before. I never told him of his
connexion with the girl before his marriage. It was in the
public papers.
Re-examilned—lt was when Mr. Burroughs said he would
turn me out my servants told me about Mn. Baines going
out at night. hurter was in the photogrophic room with
Dr. Browne when the door was locked for more than two
minutes at a time. Dr. Browne's photograph wee in my
room at the time when my husband was there. There were
mveral Misers there. I told the Billings everything.
Mr. Frank Burroughs had written home to say that
Dr. Browne had been turned out of the house
on account of my husband's jealousy. Dr. Browne wee
with us, and saw Mr. Billings, and Mr. Billings used I
ought never to go back to live with my husband. My attnt
asked Mr. Billings to help us, but he said, from his position
as the master of a grammar school, he did not like to inter-
fere. I never said to Mrs. Pearce that I left her lodgings
because the Billings called. It was both because the
dinner wee badly cooked, and became I was annoyed at
what the Billings had imputed, that I could not eat the
dinner.

Mrs. Pearce (interrupting)—l can contradict all that.
Mr. Macaulay—Perhaps you will may the dinner was well
cooked. (Laughter.)

Re-examination continued—My husband could have
written to me through Mr. Webb. My son wrote to
him every week, and Ise wrote every week to my son,
through Mr. Webb. Dr. Browne is a partner in a patent
chlorodyne with Mr. Davenport, of Great Ituasell-street.
Mr. Prank Burroughs is my aunt's legal adviser. Dr. Brown)
never took a modal al my mouth. He prepared the wax in
gaiter's presesee, and I took the model myself. I was
he would hurt me. My husband knew el it. He
wee present when the was was bring melted. Mrs. Baines
did not come into the room when Dr. Browne put his hand
on my shoulder. Old Mrs. Burgers came into the room
when Dr. Browns put his hand on my shoulder. He had
desired I should not interfere with the children, and I was
annoyed. He pot his hand on my shoulder, and said,
" Mrs. Burroughs, I'm sorry I've offended you ; think no
more of it." He went down to my husband, and said,
" Burroughs, I've had a fuss with your wife, bet we have
made it up,^ and my husband shook hands with him.
By the Judge—lt was when I was very ill in the dining-
room that Jane Howard told me the story which the groom
had told her and that she had seen my husband and Mrs.
Baines walking out at right My aunt was with inc. I did
not charge Mr. Burroughs with the set related by the
groom, bemuse I could scarcely credit it, but I charged hint
with walking arm-and-arm with her. I have since acted on
Dr. Browne's offer about the children. They are now at
school, and oome to me in the holidays.
Ann Rudgman a servant formerly in the service of Mr.
Burroughs, deposed that Mr. Burroughs tool to go into the
n and Min Baines ICAO his dressing-room. She
badknown him remain in the nursery for an
hour at a time when the children were there.
The door used to be open. The visite were MIS frequent
latterly. On one occasion she saw Mrs. Beings run out of
the day nursery, and Mr. Burroughs steadier does to the
wall in the nursery. Mrs. Baines afterwards told her she
had come down ham her bedroom, and that Mr.
was standing in the room to frighten her. Mrs. Baines
told the servants in the kitchen that Mr. Burroughs
had said to her she should not peter below the knee, as it
would spoil the shape of her leg. (Laughter.) Jane asked
her how it was the manor knew where she gartered—
(laughter)—end she replied that he saw it while she was
going up the cellar stairs. (Lan*. der.) Mrs. Baines need
frequently to go out in the evening at the same time as Mr.
. On one (minion she went out, and told witness
tolla4ig :had gone to bed if she was asked for. Mr. Bur-
rough. used to laugh and jok more with Mrs. Baines than
.wMe other servant.. She had heard Mrs. Baines my
she could not say Mr. Burroughs bad not kissed her, because
he had. _ _ _

Cross-examined—Witness left because Mrs. Burroughs
left. Mrs. Burroughs did not ask her to leave. Dr. Browne
had not given her money, or paid for her lodgings. She
was now living at Mr. Holmes's, at flapel, near Dorking.
Mrs. Burroughs had spoken for her to go there. Dr.
Brownewsa living at Mr. Holmes's since she had been there.
She had been in lodgings in Horsham tor two days with
Jane Howard. Dr. Browne came there each day and spoke
to Jane Howard in her presence, but she did not notice
what they were saying. Dr. Browne used to sit
down in the kitchen. (Laughter.) He talked about
Mrs. Burroughs leaving. She forgot whether he talked
about Mrs. Baines or not. He never gave Jane Howard
anything in my presence. He never gave me a farthing.
Jane told him what she had seen, Mrs. Baines going on as
she ought not to have done. Witness had said nothing.
She bad said she had seen him in the nursery, and her in
him dressing-room. (Laughter.) She had waited on Dr.
Browne at Mr. Holmes's, but he had never spoken to her
about it. He had never taken down in writing what she
was to my. Prior, the groom, went to Cape], in Mr.
Holmea's service. Mr. Holmes was a large fanner. He
attended on the doctor's dog-cart. She had left Holmee's
service a week ago, because she did'not like the place. Prior
had left at the same time. She had heard Dr. Mown. tell
Jane Howard she was to join Mrs. Burroughs, and she
rto go. Lloyd, the upholsterer, had said to Jane
ozd, " Did you ever see anything improper between
Mrs. Baines and Mr. Burroughs ?" .nd she said she had not.
Witness said she had seen nothing improper. (Laughter.)
Mr. Baron Wilde—Did you see anything improper'
Witness—No, sir.
Mr. Baron Wilde—Then what you told Mr. Lloyd was
true.
Witness—Yee.
Crowexamination continued—Some of the times when
Mrs. Baines went out at night her child was iIL
Its-examined—Mr. Lloyd began to chaff Jane. He told
her she was jealous because Mr. Burroughs did not give her
medicine instead of Mrs. Baines. (Laughter.)
The trial was again adjourned.