The Express.
London, England, 1856-03-06 00:00:00

IMPERIAL P.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WzDsmay, MAsca 5.
[C,.meltotert from yesterday's Express.]
CHURCH RATES ABOLITION BILL.

S'r G. OKAY tee rased the ditliculte;;l:Tal sumo tad •d
every sq-ropt to ,e.t.fo the elusive, n of church rav s, but
urged that the reistiss wets of the lew wit mom mints.
two y, Aso that the p-o mat mot out yea sufficiently tesi-
ble dower tOalea. ration. Toe lramiple that thatch
remove re n, t c inpuleoey had been eitablishel by scud
deessioas in toe I.er coot., ono these, in his opisioa, d,.
!mod of the argument that tee church held an Istria/le
tole to the in p et, which it eroill be an set of connettion
to Woollen. Tne gore lament, he add.d, neve rtheles, could
nit commit to an immediate and total abol:Los of church
rates, and he 'whetted, as the pr3babla plan if protredure
which they • o Id c .pt, that the measure should only be
appliel totiuse winches where est/mottoes had eke vly
seises oa the eubjeit, and wh re, emeeviently, the e
em-
prraise it press t d might prove beneficial in healing die-
itemion. With this view of a prospective sect cation of the
bill, Sir G. fire/ insisted to the mond reading, intending
to bring lure aM inch ameodsents in committee as would
modify it. or viaiotie to the eat nit be had devribad.
Mr. DRUMMOND isolated epos the pr.aeriptive right
of the church to tae coerch rates. Tea: fund, he decialvd,
hat belonged to the eetabli.hmei.t over antic Cis • softy
becalm the ncoaeird religion of the country, sod could met
be withdrawn without de trying the ideal of a national
church.
Toe ATTORNEY-GENERAL justified the course he
had permed is sup,,ueung the swere, both M the lest
and present sess-oa, and urged dist the epthet " reekbees."
which Ler I J Mennen had applied to it, was undeserved.
Lord J. RUSSELL dimpproved of the modest of the
Ho ee Secretory in meclting a measure which he designed
Amos t remodel by future amendment% The proposed
scheme of the government would, he believed, neither sa•
tidy the rights f the church, appease the canonises' of
thistles's, or promo., mix% Tha entsbliahment, he ob.
served, way threatese II by two eases of enemies-Ih, dig-
"eaten, who from without availed her as* hority, sad
sought to undermine he r etreagth,oonsidi rang the a:totems'
of a nati inal courch ohjectionable; end the reheat/tat par-
tisans within, wine; intempirmcv tended to provoke
schism. Believing that the bill eoold sot mitigate the
danger to ba apprehended from either side, he felt nom-
penal to vote against the second reading,
Lord PALMERSTON mid he did sot rise to .sewer the
refiectione which his noble (dead bad cast epos her Ha-
iiey's goveromeet for bavisg, upon duo consideration,
deieresir.rd to adopt the cosies which bad been stated.
Thiegeotion was eadoubtedly 'amended by the greatest
possible difficulties; if it had act been so, it would long
since have b.OO settled by s eme legM alive onaetment
!loving son the various plans which bad bees proposed by
different member. i f the house—haviog fully seaside:el a
freet skiety of suggestions which had bees made to theta
rom wrier quarter., y had prepared the plea which his
risk. t hos-friend (8. r G.Orey) had explained to the homestead
their opinion woe, ,11 t that plan would but be submitted to
the coleftleration of the boas by being proeowd as as
amendment in committees on this bill of his bon. friend the
mesh rft r toe Tower Hamlets. But though his noble
Lived hal bean ahundact in bin censure of condemomios
ow the enure. which they were prepared to folow, he could
not ribs:ever itoca what tell from him that be c aid ;Met
oat any other coarse which be thought more der ruing of
the smut:est on cf Parliament. (Cheers.) His aeblo friend
mOntained that the eboreh rate was the amSent undoubted
Tr, petty of the chereh—that it was founded 111• escheat p e-
ter ptioa, end up In the lew of the lead ; bat when his noble
friend case t stsow that the law of the lend enabled the
cher, h to aea.l itself of Ibis f raperty he utterly failed, aid
be was obliged to castes that the law. as row de.
filmed by the highest authority, was futile for Its pur-
pest, and II a: pr etc .14 the thatch rate wee a
voloit try rootibuUna. Ho esid a voloatary esti-
butna, because, es the law now It depended se the'
voluntary 6C: Or the ratepayers of gash perish whether they
would or wi.uld cot raise this Impost. Tlterefo-e, it was •
Joke, it was a sockery, to tall the thatch that it
ked a property whit* it was enabled to avail
itolf ef. Wall, thee, the seine wkch pommietat
took wee to recognise *Kitties fats; inpmeihse
where rates existed to provide kr their
sad to Inside for the fatten la teepee; of aloe pilime
which a different et t• of eireametaaem satietrad. His noble

imailiZryr
perpetual smile. Why, what wee the prams mum me the
law ? Did it ut hasp up wriest MAI t Ate the law
sow stood, they were liable to hew le limy peekk that bat-
tle in the vestry whiet his noble frised wished es avoid—
the amyl' to determine whether • rate Mehl et should
aft paw By a r eme dienration of the law that mate of
thinga would em unties", tielme ems other smagemst
were adopted ; and it was ;Weedy 410•4 that that peae.asd
harmony *blab it was the Meet of hie has. Meal is mem
mould not mother be obtaisal mks the preemie Ma of
the law. Thee he said Ike course whisk he proment to
rime was ens which is ream mid to rommeed
itself to the 'per bAM of part most. Bat sew the
ease to authority. His noble Irked dNalslaed
setbrilty ; wit ail hie mum In the chetah he *row
writhe era metes% beeitaties the rp.mins of the bead me the
church, mactioull by the dignitaries of td • chard', sad tar
sally propeerd in the shape of a bill la et e makteraties
of the hoses. They had head es Mersin. at of sees who
affected to tor more ro) rise than the king; tie sake bleed
was more a churehma the, the shank hemp. (Obests sal
laughter.) He (L re Fineries) Meg* the Item mad
be mere diet wan to give reedimulks Is these emeame
which epee lab c tuideratias the heeds WM Aside op
peeved so net ineesitstest witb the kelleette ef Mame*,
the. they would be to bites to the orgemests of tt as who
tithed to mimesis the prompt mats of Whir. Thiegs kW I
get tae • tradition is whisk them me so altirsetive
betwoos males the shade rate esmayakary cm miry Ms- '
payer is every pariah, or amine` to some armagemou
Miler to that wet eb they had time est for the
eidersties of outmost. He Magee that is the
rate of religiose differestee, that Mee mid sell Cs=
pored to adept • mauve whelk wield mkt kommeime y
spats every parish to levy • duelers*. mad apes emery
pasiehleser te pay it Ti at Wee swivel, est WM gaieties.
sad he wee sure that settody would wpm it, et that it
method, dared to pto; oat it there Ti. act the elightret
Mese that each a manse would 940040
109110 of perliement. This whet wen they_ M
de ithemld tete loam Mess se they sere, Why,
to Mime things al they saws is • great swabs" of
wee to lay the ibmilkies ef diteard. Thew
rebbboright the mum Wilk thoy pm prod to perm was
the "sly missal sad mennabk is.. -They premed that
where • ire had set bees le itd,,r when • rate death
set be leveed foe • smiths ems, VA rate Mull be abo-
lished; seed that whim rake win levied, moms MM.-
kg themselves set to be members of the thatch of Rego
lasi Mooed sat be have the me keeled um=
bet, ea the Mee hind, they proposed that Om
musk•
leg eryseinieles flar the prom eppliselles of
them seam Mink MOM by Main esnadhstleme es by
• rate, should be eppYahlo M the mime tad the semis,
el the Meek It eismsi M him kint Ws some Woe
W premed mom 409 which OM as,. k wee ear
eiderril the mete has. -ember meld reel wee the last
esieslated a *beim the Madam of the use. If may
M. waive Baldemelt s lielimr phis they said be
folly reedy Mesmidef Whi•Phil Oki AWN,
"int must et Myth homed. to Mlle this quids& They
had gives to the matter the hint emesidersies 11 tisk
power; they believed that the onangemeat which lie
eight he.. mead bad "Maimed was uleskted to emu
pHela the object is view, aid they Meld he prepared ekes
this bill got into committee te lay that ursagemest he
greeter Mad beton" the bowie. They wore teed that they
ought to have Muhl is • mares hall—(sees,
bees);—that they ought to have Mooted the bill
of his hes. friend bemuse it west farther than
they were propated to go; and that they ought a
have jeised with those who alined with Ham GB WM* se
did lass gestlemes prima, to hereepme lets Os ishby.e•
rime a hail wealth trey oar lug awned if in order to bring
In • billet their owe. That wee set • must at all me*
teat with the purpose they had he view. They agreed with
the bill •f his hoe. friend fa mud to dime perishes Is
whit* the Ruch-rate bad Mimes set bees levied. mad k
would he iseessimest with the pistil', they eseeetedmiel le
ham njectted the MIL The mouse slide they imilimiedi to
fellow cos that which he thought was the mut sekkeentil
sad be could sot bet thick that when the ennsgemmts
they prep. s
of the egirrY IA LL eald there were two or three Mari is m-
use- too with the ream bill and the prop wino% el poem-
nest which, is juetice to dime. ten, regained to be dui.
with. Fist, he armed Mem bimetal to the &rummest if
the sable lord who moved the emodmat. The stable lord
masted to have dite raid in the sew bltl as aseresetmest
es the litotrey which chum:hates efiellsogee for themselves
in their owe "Nits. Now, he bed say t say, es What of
them with whom he reeceieted, that they would rattier
have the abolition pare sad Miele, wittiest say
machinery at all. That machinery bed bees mouseted
by as 'malaise lumber ef the chuck of Esgiesd.
sot to plus- the dissent. re, but amply with • view to steer
away eh ow iegal Own re, if dun sir: say, shish had
bus elloded tin a debate two se three series, ago by
the right ben. ember fee the Usimeity of Oxford. There
was use Wary watch is. through the satire orpmest of
the settle laid the gambit fee Casimir, end had bees
sdrred by the noble lord (Uri ,I. Bell). They sold
that tootributiese had bees mite to "orresreh," mad
property settled epos ...tier ebtarek," r thew theehoult
ware a separate community. New, he did tot sulentemi
that. Wass he came forward to aim tutsquesties be
did ea, sot merely Mow • aerie Ms wee •
grimace apes hint, but he sem Mimed in his
right aa a einem of ibi. emery te regu4t., a hit kiwow
could regulate, a satlesal imitedia is *WWI he was ae
Dammam m say ether ineembse mattly be. Be
maid mammal the miles el gentlemen emits.
who mieht my, if this weft • hatless! tastituties why did
he objrit or, • tar for its majOrt ? Teat was as orgasm%
wish es.,. Almost all the keitatieee of the cowry pro-
le,d bee Its whist, might be shared equally by must'. et the c teassaity. New, the churches el the
true setiosal @M em, sad Si the mesiben of the elisrel of
Reglasd Moyne the see of them lifeboat mime to, that
wee It maned proper that they Mel" at Mt keep them
be recede se hag es they bad the nekolve es)
mist of them. Tau aah*. kwy meet yeb.,
said be would vote for the need sadly of the big af •
astimitom art re provided fee the rate. It asteeed him is
observe the p.rplozity einatelmes were is whoa thheeyy talked
of a substitute. Had they set • stalest esbsliratm la