The Express.
London, England, 1860-05-11 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 11, 1860.

HOUSES AND WINE LICENSES
BILL

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that
the house go into ccomittee upon this bill.
Er. PALE amteaded that it would be unwise, as well as
injurious to the manic, isealth,andhappieess of the peopleto
permit unrestricted cempetitioa in the coholiedrinks.
The bill was bather • Ind measure nor a free-trade mea-
sure, nor yet • mown dictated by any principle of sound
peficy. He woad therefore move that the house go into
committee:epos It es that day six mouths.
Hr. PACE la needing the motion said the bill was
one of the greatest attempts to infringe the liberty of the
'abject that he ever remembered to have men introduced
into that home. It would render every ohl woman who
said 01kIll or ginger beer liable to a yearly tux. In fact
he did not know that the bill would not apply even to
butchers' shops.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not
think the house would be willing to resume the lengthened
debate which had been brought to a clues on Honda night.
The obje, von his hon. friend who had the
ansesdruent w.l not really apply to the bill ; the gametal
wads in which Wife subjected to many important limi-
tations. The other !immutable gentleman's (Mr. Palk's)
obis:Mose were no doubt of • very different character.
He had listened to the hen. gentleman, and he admitted
that hie apiaion we. entitled tO much consideration. The
government had stated in that house whet they anticipated
world be tie social consequences of certain measures, and
the fanatic. easiest the bill were that hon. gentlemen de-
clined to draw damnation. which ought to be drawn, and
which lay on the surface of the case. The use et wine
hems. was different from the beer bill. He had pro-
pounded the measure as • deliberate attempt to effect
a great improvenmet in one portion of the law, with
regard to which refreshment was to be had by the
people and under which they were to be enabled to And
Permeated liquors in the same places as eatables. After
the lung arguments he hail offered to the home the other
night it cold not be respetful to rapist them at this
moment. But when they went into ournmittee he hmed
they would make such armodnieuts as might be requited, if
any were ueeonary. (Hear, hear.)
The turremb.ient was then negatived without • division,
sad the house went into committee, It,. MAreetr iu the
chair.

fin clause 2, which enact\ that the male of foreign wine
io aay 1ee..1 tantities than two gallon., or in Inn. than
one Jars reputed ./ OW bottles, shall he Atectooot to be

AKTON stud he supposed that any person who
took out a license to cell the lesser quantity would be at
liberty to st:d a bare, and thus there would be an end to
all wholesale wine hoesses.

Bar P. BA 111 remarked that if • retailer were limited
to the rale of a .I.icen la might evade that by selling to the
same person • elosen &seas in the course of a day.
ttlir W. MILES said no doubt the retailers of these
French wines would get their wines from large wholeeide
dealers.
11r. HEM sett at present they could not buy less
Ulla two of t* or wine without going ti. •
ztr. He thought spiri
that a person who took out a wine
ought to Ise placed on the IMMO tooting as a

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE9(JER, in regard to
what fell from Sir 1. Baring, said he did sot think there
was mote:4y any Jaeger of the law being. evaded by re-
teflon is thb we/ the right hon. baronet pointed out.
Sir 8. NORTHOOTE said finder thi• clause, supposing
• party—like her Majesty's ;Moisten for instaoce—weut
dews to Greenwich to a refreshnieut house to eat • white.
snit dinner, they could not have more than a dozen of wins
meeed oat to them. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.)
Mr. M'CANN said, as ha understood the clause,
party
mifht le served with a dozen for each wan. (
'4l/lie ter
wua them agreed to.
On clause 3, ebb+ provides that permitting the drinkigg
of wins in a neighbouring shed or building, with intentio
evade the pn.vision• of the act, shall he deemed to he drink•
ing ori the premivel--• short diacu....oon arse, which re-
mitted in tla wool " tmildimpi" being struck out and the
wool " perioi.m." inserted.
Ile claw, 4,
Mr. HARDY propu•ad au anitudineot, requiring that

--Fioine verbal amendments having been efterwarda made,
the clause was agreed to.
On clean_ N_
AYETON aid they had pared what might be
lama a now, bill, and were now going to take
lab ceaskisratimi • number of previsions relating
to the amoral conduct of the massamity. cis mo-
tion was simply to promote the temperames of the
1218Keay peen and other numbers et the other house
. Miss great 'Mann in that gumtree, but sa this would
go up as a mosey IKE, they would probably object to inter-
fere with it. He wished, therefore, that that part of the
hill which related to police regulations should be separated
from the taxing portion of the meaeure. This would enable
both that and the other house to comider the matter with
more satadaction to themselves.

Mr. CAYLEY did not look upon the clams inertly as a
police clause. He wanted to know why those liotonsd
bottom which were to be allowed to sell for=hwines were
not to be permitted to sell beer and w
whether he (Mr. Oayley) wee right in supposing that
was the intention.

---The efiXFWELLOR of the EXCHEQUER nil that it
was not intended by this bill to interfere with what wen
called beerhouses. The fact of holding • beer license would
not be • disqualification for obtaining a wine lionise, nor
would the holding a wine license be a disqualification for
selling beer if they bad • beer license. He did not agree
with Mr. Ayrtn, thatthelicensing portion of the bill should
be aspirated from the police part of it. The revenue part
of the bill was secondary—the principal part of it being the
clauses which related to police regulations.
Upon elan 6
W. MARTIN moved an amendment to diminiah the
population Cl towns to which the clause applied from 50,000
to 10,000.
Mr. LYALL moved the insertion of words limiting the
granting of heeling to homes which had been establaned
twelve months. He laid his object was to prevent slops
being opened under the colour of refreshment houses, solely
for the sale of wine.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER objected to
the amendment as ineffectual and vexatious. A great num-
ber of hence might have been established for twelve
mouths, and yet have no pretensions to receive these
licenses, while it would be very vexatious to prevent •
respectable man, who had opened a refreshment house in a
populous neighbourhood, from selling wine until the lapse
of • year. (Hear, hear.)
Both the amendments were then negatived, and the clause
was agreed to.
Clause 7 was withdrawn and clause 8 agreed to.
Upon clause 9,
Mr. W. MARTIN suggested, whether as the proprietors
of refreslusiest houses would have the arms privileges as
Itosamed victuallers sad baritone* laterseb_tkey should not
have the muse liability with regard tottishffieting of soldiers.
TheCHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that
it was part of o peculiar and antiquated system, full of diffi-
culties, sad that it would be much bettor act to import any
such provisions into the new system they wore now devising.
The claws was agreed to, as were also clown 10 and 11.
After some further conversation, clauses 12 and 13 were
postponed.
Mr. HUNT moved that the Chairman report progress.
Sir W. MILES protested spinet this attempt to delay
public business. The disputed clauses were postponed, but
there were • great many other clauses about which there
vru no dispute, and which, therefore, might be proceeded
with.

On clause 14,
Mr. F.. JAMES suggested that it should be postponed.
Sir W. MILES suggested various technical amendments
to the clause.

Mr. SCULLY suggested that, if only in justice to the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, who had been in the house
for eight hours without any refreshment, the Chairman
ought to report program. (Laughter and cheers.)
hour lieu resumed.

The Sheri Court-houses (Scotland) Bill was read a
woad time, and ordered to be curnmitted ou the 4th June.
and Bawds and Bridges Bill was road • third
time sad
The Laren!' Cottages (Scotland) Bill was read a second
Haw
THE BLEACHING AND DYEING BILL.

The on the motion of Mr.
Caooc, postponed to Wednesday, the 27th of June.
FISHERfEB ("SCOTLAND) WELL.
The amendments on this bill were considered.
Mr. LOCKHART morel the insertion of the words " or
for pointing^ after the words " instrument" and " fish" in
the first four claims of the bill.

The amendment was agreed to.
Oa clause 12, line 10,
Yr. CAIRO moved, after tie word " moment," the Weer-
lion of the words "or by tide act." tb rid there ought
not to be or law for the peer mad *motile for the rich.
Mr. COCHRANE preimisi net the hon. member's
remark, which was may to court popularity. It
was absurd to suppoes that moron would put lime into
the rivers to destroy their own
After • conversation the his.. added—
For the ameadment 37

Against it
The SPEAKER said, as the house had not been able to
form ita judgment on this proposal, he should give his vote
so as to leave the matter sail was left by the last decision
of the house. He should give his vote for the noes.
REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS (IRELAND) BILL
(No. 2).
Mr. CARDWELL obtained leave to bring in a bill to
provide for the registration of births, deaths, and marriage.
us Ireland.