The Express.
London, England, 1858-05-05 00:00:00

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THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EitNING, MAY 5, 1858.

of the peat families of Europe, bat one alto 1
led with their habits, mesons, Asti, mama.
t tit the hon. gentleman mid they wadi UM like SW
have a pitmen who would be liable to be deposed, and it le
no doubt the constant deposition of their Merin that bee
been the great mum of the thmord and &Weiss of them
Principalities. The Sultan reserved to himself the right of
deposing, and there was in consequence always a number of
families Midgets' satinet the reigning who
I would get up complaints, end carry them to the Stettin, in
order to get hies deposed. In that way the state of these
provinces was constantly diaturbed, in consequence of the
intrigue, of the nobility against the reigning family.
Then they say, and I think very reasonably, let
us
have a prince who is not subject to these influences—let
us have a foreign prince. Let as imagine what would be
the state of things then? They would have that self-
government which but for the Interference of Russia they
would have enjoyed very many years, and they would
increase in wealth and prosperity. But, says my noble
friend, that would be no barrier against the designs of Russia.
It appears to me, on the contrary, that a people en-
klieg the benefit of self-government, imitating in
wealth and prosperity—a people in the enjoyment of
liberty—that such a people form the best barrier
satinet forage aggregate and (maga conquarts that ma be
devised—(bear, heer)—• barrier far better end more effective
than any treaty. That has been the result in other parts of
Europe. In the division of Europe is 1815 those wise per-
sons by whom that arrangement was finally made, It is well
known, departed from the plan of Mr. Pitt, with regard to
uniting Belgium with Prussia—in that final arrangement
Belgium was Hued to Holland, and what was the remit ?
Everybody knows that Belgium speedily became discontented
and demanded • separation. The Dutch, though they
ggooveted themselves very well, had not the art to govern the
Bilgia s, wkient:elet religion, and habits differed from
theirs. There was discontent; and at lase in 1832,
Belgium was into an independent kingdom under
King Leopold. That was an arrangement made by my noble
friend the member fur Tiverton, who was then Foreign Secre-
tary ; and ever since then there had been a strong national
spirit in Belgium. They have enjoyed their own contain-
non, their representative chambers, and their free prem.
They value those institutions, and I believe no-
thing would be en irksome to them, or so likely
to create radetance, so any attempt to extend Preach
or any other foreign influence in that country. These are
mature which those who negotiate diplomatic treatise some-
times aegiset to take into oonskieration. But they might to
remember in making these arrangements that the wawa
of • people, the love of • people for their inaitu-
timie, form a denier against foreign foes more
suoneasful than the most skilfully drawn treaties.
Thew, then, are my opinions es to the arrangement. which
ought be made. I think the home ought to feel Itself indebted
to my right hon. friend—(bear)—for bringing forward
the subject. I feel that the governments which at Paris
made an engagement to consult the Principalities, did, to a
certain alai; commit the faith of this country. (Ear,
hag.) I feel also the justice of the statement made by the
noble toed opposite, that we are too often accused of giving
encouragement to nations to assert their liberties sad to pro-
. claim their independence, and then calmly and coldly desert-
lag their mom (Cheers.)
't Podet et bac opprobria notes
Et diet pumas& et non midge. refelli."
' It is painful in such a cane as dila, aiming forward at the
time when the case of Sardinia is exciting attention, to find
that after giving emouragement, we are about to witndnew
?rem the Principalities the support of this country. It will give
rime not only to disappointment, but the complaint of wont of
• faith. I think that her Majesty's plenipotentiary should
' have instructions not to support the placing of • foreign
prince over the Principalities, whom ales it woad bete en-
tend his dominion into Bulgaria, but that goy Avoid lonia
united government--• united legislature. If they have this
I believe that they will give security to the future pesos of
Europe.

Tie; CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Sir, the
' noble lord who hest Jest set down thinks that it is only by
adopting the address moved for by the right hon. gestietnea
' the member for Oxford that can extricate ourselves from
• &Mauna. it appears to me that if we adopt that motion of
the right hon. gentles= we shall find °lrreales in a
dilemma. The right hon. gentleman hes in that eloquent
' speech produced an effect on the house which hie eloquence
ins calcalnted to bring forth, for his address was conceived
in • generous spirit—its object was a generous one. Now, at
• this pment moment, on this subject, there is, between the
government of her Majesty and that of France, a perfect
nnaehnity of sentiment, of views, and of policy, in its widest
and truest sense ; and in a few days the representative@ of
theme two governments will be prepared to maintain, to re-
commend, and to enforce that policy. Now, how it
will facilitate that policy that at this moment
the House of Commons should come forward, on
the eve of the commencement of negotiations, and
carry an address lab this to the crown, embarrass-
imt the English representative without in any way ember-
rasing the French representative, I do not see. On the
contrary, I think that that will place us in a dilemma.
(Hear, hear.) And, sir, the noble lord who haa just addreeeed
us has told us that the honour of this house of parliament
and of the country is involved in this lnastion, and that we
am taking a course which is not in ao3ordanoe with the en-
gagements into which we have entered. That, air, is •
very serious charge. We are all guardians of the honour of
this country In this bows. But before we come to • vote
which may have an indiums upon the course of events
which few, perhaps, in this house are prepared to anticipate,
we ought to have a c leer idea of the engagements into which
this country has really entered on this subject. (He=
bear.) Therefore, I must refer to the articles of the treaty.
They are brief, but if they were long I should not apologies
on reading them when so grave a statement has been made.
Now, hers are the sticles. I find in article 22 of the Treaty
of Paris, "The Principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia
shall continue to enjoy, under the suairainty of the Porte
and the guarantee of the contracting powers, the privileges
sad immunities of which they were in possession. No eulo-
gy' protection shall be exercised over them by any of the
eastraciting powers, and there shall be no separate right of
interferame in their internal affairs." (Hear.) Who, then*
is pegged w mem that anyone who Ms been or is mildew
,of this siestry is trying to recede from this engagement?
Than is another article to which I will refer. " His Ma-
jolty the Sultan promises to convoke in each of the two pro-
visoes a Divan ad hoe chosen in such a manner at to repro-
eat all Interests. These Divans shall be called upon to
regrets the wishes of the people in regard to the organisation
of the Principalities." Who dears that aoy expression by
this Divan with regard to the interior organisation of the
Principalities should sot be respected? We have
jam beard front the noble lord that • Joint }sem
Imam is most datimbie. But no engagement exist@
on the of this country for the establishment
of • joint dialers. In dealing with this subject we moat
have reference to the engagements of trestles and to the rights
of powers. You cannot settle a question of this kind by a
brilliant oration—turning this house into • divan ad doe.
(A laugh.) You must look to the rights and obligations of
the pertiee—that, at least, was the opinion of the noble
lord (I. Rowell) when he was the representative of his
Sovereign at Vienna. Nothing is so easy se to come forward
and make representations each es we have heard to-eight,
which, when you examine them, vanish like • fairy dream.
These descendants of the sadist Daciana—(laughter)--so
Ace, t 0.,., prosperous, with whom every generous heart
must sympathise, to accomplish whop. desuoy every maxi
weold be willing to make rime &acrid..., ate pktursquely
and siessatly planed before us ; but when we ash
egureelens what is the reality, what is the security that such a
=selslide deedety an be brought into existence end
exisdng. emery practical man feels in • moment that the
make &eery is the mere picture of a generous fancy, one,
hm, which, Wasconreged, would end in consequences which
would Word a painful, nay, an awful contrast to the dna.
Is latish kr • moment we might ham indulged. (Chews.)
We engin m camider the position of the limited populates
sestaered over a assiderable region. No doubt there is grad
umbemispal wolfs and resources in the provinces, bat die
paole se essepsed whh the territory are not that multitude
stem semeglik to • Mate. (Hear, hear.) We ought
en rememlWr Owe Own Sra er flee millions of beings are
sommeemdsd ptreLmtel milthery Howving all the or-
are we to aid
=dry te 1=1:18::Lesta we do to maintain
Ass f It is atiltVepenehas In the Hems of Caesium—
(eliswe)-11 is tast saes emu et the Haw et NW
MOM that Tim earsmeleeds • thelltieue Mdepeasee
lie this. (Cheers.) We mast denim emeider this qemdes
is in presided a manner in peseible. Whet me the angage-
mate Isis slake this misery Ms mired I' I ham used
them to the hams. Those ammgements we might to kik,
sat may to the letter bat to thisserk ; we ought to exercise
ail ear sod all the inflames which we Judy posers
le Ilse them provinces good government and mil-
="L't. (Cheers.) We aught to obtain that—end I he-
ire an obtain that—with the cordial co-operation
of the Neemeh govaranaist. Doing that we not only fulfil all
ear emposemeste, bat we obtain all that it is practieeble
M Anise he the ware of thew Principalities.
DM Yse tabs any ober mares—if on the one hand we te-
ll* seems them—we should indeed cause a stain upon our
hewer ; Kan the ether, we encourage soy fantastic rattle-
Nana, we wee this seek forth of inevitable ruin; we
messerege blermedem—the armed intervention of the nabie
Interhasseo an the part of the great utintiz
rer*_,,aye hopes which we shall then be
maser support, ad we may be drawn
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ae ame ma tweed. (Chews.) It is Immesibis
to weedee a ewes mere impel* time thet 'dish INS beim
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del to the steleriam of the day ?
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the mmisher he Stanford, ssieeghpst Arts with m-
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