The Express.
London, England, 1856-06-28 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 28, 1858.

that be bad not ouppested enough—be hoped they would not
hesitate to vote forth. emend resole' of the bill which
stood for that evenies. What were the Falsities Imams
I. favour of the Kessiegtote -gore site ? First
was • consideration which bad been altogether paspd
over by ilia noble lord—that of *sponse. The elm now
Dieted to the Gauntry was on. of which half Os cost bad
bun d•ffilids loot nut of the Beebe quer, bat by the Cent-
miesimere of the Ezhibition of 1861. The 'seam at Ken-
sheens amaprised no less then 86 acre.; it bed oust
312.0001.; of that sum, 177,0004. had been paid by the g--
vs runnel, and 1135,00/., or nearly out-halt, by the com-
mission, re of 1881. Therelore, half the mist of that si's
mein be considered as • donation to the mbte. The value
of the site was certainly femur mow than it was when the
purchase was made. (dear, beer.) 0 trios to the
progress of Muldloge westward—Cheat, lisat)—ilt was u-
sually increasing in valeii; and the notion minim mood.'
that it had sees • most advantageous bargain with the
commissieraers of 1861 in tomtit to test sit*. The bill bee
fore the home enabled the venom II! to hike from the
commissioners' much lead on that estate straight be required
for the porpost • of • cation.' gallery. It aid not go
beyond the acceptance of the gift of the Royal Commissioners
of their half-share of teor sit*, ar d it eymially vaned is .t
Aare in the Commissioners of Work.; but it did not
pledge the boasts to any specific sum of mosey, Cr
soy specific plan. ( Hear, beer. It merely aeoept.d ther
land se a elle for the National Oalkrv. and it ideated toe
property absolutely in the Board of Work.. What ground
was Otero for the opinion that this site was not ad-
mirably adapted for a national gallery, provided the boon ,
come to the &scission that it should be tibia out of the'
metal streets and placed to the outskirts ? lo point of die-
titian, the site proposed was cote to that of the Babibition
of 1881; and the cr nide who fl sited to that ezhibitioe
showed that the distance wee not each as w. aid prevent per-
sons desirous of weir g the picture, fri m accomplishinp tteir
object. The area offered ample room la every direction
fur the c instruction of a building of adequate Pee fir a
national gallery; it admitted of additions is future yeare
if it were the ',Lipari, of parliament to make additions; std
although the frontage I. she Kenelegton road win in some
parts mires-swot teen the width of the estate behind. it was
quite safileient, and any one who esamired it w inld find
boat there was ample apace for the picatruetioa of a splendid
sad ornsusentel buildiag. But Lord litho bad talked oi
the Brampton msrebes, sad said that the lower part of this
estate was a swamp or in ir.h. Be should as soon hate re-
potted to hear the canoe of Arabia ceectibed a. • 'north.
(Laughter.) Beempton was eJnaidered se healthful that it
had be.. selected by our forefethers to reed their .iclt
hinds then. It was also Pet site of the Hospatal for Con
sumption ; and the °rootless had selected it for their con.
vest. (Hear, hear) Upon all these pounds he thought it
the beetling that could be eel died for • national pottery.
The noble lord had quoted, is support of the
alittoistmeat of a commission' a better from Lord
Basemen. He (t 1 • Chapatti, r of the Etebequeri
had recently neeived a letter from that nobleman, en-
amoebic/ his dosation to the eat coal collection of the
celebrated peter. booms as the Cbmidoe portrait of
Shakepere. (Chaste) Ho oonsids red that the appointment
of • shownsissiou we, idol pentane at thia moment It was
more desirable that a delicate monotones should be laid
before the house. The bill proposed to remove the Nat onal
Gallery from its preset Mt., and to give up the building to
the Royal Academy for the purposes of their ealabiti us,
lectures, ste. Oa condition of this beirg dose, the Boys!
Acidity utidertook to improve the building and erect • sew
façade at their own expanse. As to the fanner site of the
National Gallery they merely proposed that the house
should me sent to accept from the Boyd Commisalosers of
1861 • portion of tbe aft, at Keesineton.gore fur the purpose
of • astional gallery. Till that preliminary gees:los was
decided swims would be !eternised about plans;
bet as soon as the site wag agreed on, pleas mould be in-
vited, t only in Beaked, but all over the a sntinent.
' (Hear, herr.) They first proposed only the erection of •
building auttleieet for the accommodation of the pictures;
bet then would be the means of uol:mited selection. The
meet fem competition would be allowed as to the plent,which
would aII be submitted to • committee. Beit the first step
was client, to determies wbetber the lead at Kt allaft.oo-
- gore should be accepted. The gentles-was not one of ab
street specialities, it was eminently one for the dots toilett-
e° i of the hoses ; and be hoped toey would have no heel
tatiou in comic( to a enaelation *goblin the eppointoisot
of • ememissine sad is favour of the bill now before the
house. (Baer, hen )
Mr. TATS regretted that the question could not be con-
Misted as a whole—that was in regard to the site, and what
was to ha built on that site. That, too, from the papers
be fire the house 'mewed to be the illicit:in of the commis-
sioners themselves. Rs appreheoded that the evidence in
the blue books showed that the present site for a national
gallery could not be mointaieed, and that if the pictures
rmaaised where they were they would be ruins t by the
coal smoke. He thought it would be, however. well to de-
-1 lay tbe final decision wed it was ascertained whether
the sits of Kensiegton-palace meld not be obtained, that
beteg to ell respects pecubsrly fitted fir the purpose.
Mr. CUBITT thoopht the question tee, bad to smolder
was what we, the beet rite for a building for the preeervetion
and erjotinit at of wo•ksof art. Hyde-p• rk the public would
never moment tootles up for such • purpose. Tb. d
.rinioo
then must he between the two other sites prep eed, Ken
singtorgore and Ketioirgtotria'see. Ac to the latter, be
doubted if they could get it; and with regard to the former.
if It were abandoned he doubted whether the y would ever
realise the money tibia bad been paid for it Under the cir-
nneetemose he gave his opinion in levant of ik • Kensirsgtll2.
g mt., bet h.,p.a sb• mmblabment at theriait-arum
wool I net be ebeadeved. He thought thrt I. conjucc
tion with the Royal Academy, who, he understood, were
moat anxious to retain their present apartennts,there would
be no difficulty in arranging fsr the emancipate of a
attains' sell- TV of art there se he had auggeeted.
Mr. LAPOIMIFIERB, so ono of the c
dour@ of the Hyde-perk Exhibition Comnalaion, heeler/
to eciesidm whet mould be done with the 180 0001.
they bad In hand as the reside* of the Eshibitioo
feud, thought that they could not do hotter service to the
public, or place the money to a bettor or more appropriate
purls se, than in sectaries Kensington-gore, which ap-
peared to him the most neobjectionable site avialeetie for a
nets...sal gallery. It was • site mare socessible thee that
of leselagto•-pelace—eqsally oat of the smoke of Loados
—en welt protected from the north, from which minter
the smoke primipally eame—the soil we, gravel, aid there
was atitadant room for all that we, required ; and therefore
he .stewed that, of all that had been se/posted, it
wee the stet imitable for the purpose. The pretest
motion* we, really • motion in oppositioe to the bill; bat
the now should r c-illect that that bill did not ask thew
to do mere this emetics the irtesfer cf the laud from the
ensmiesionen to the trovernaseet fir the erection of •
nat-oeal gallery. It did cot p'edge the house to any plan or
to any mititeate—thine wet* mitten they would hove fall
opportneity of timelier's, beresfier ; all It pledged the
boom to um that the site at Kensington.gore ought to be
takes advantage of if r the p.free of erecting • national
gallery thereon. That we, a question upon which they bed
already ample evidenee and as to which an reedier inquiry
by a committee or othsrwl.e toad off rd soy idditmeal
lefometioe.

Mr. BPOONBR should rota foe the entice as a mango(
I elands/ the bill, not beige propand to sane tog the removal
of the Nance% Gallery from the sews+ of th. tows, Or to
whet that Kensingten-gee was • proper sits for ash •
building. (Hen, hear.) He know Keseingloolore well,
gad could state from experience that diarist the prevalence
of north east whits, which geontinges goetineed for three
mouths in the year, that locality was peculiarly subject to the
insured's." of smoke, dint, sad dirt of the metropolis.
Lord 7. RUSSELL said hie glebe friend bed pot words
icto his mouth whieb be had never used, when he raid fist
he (Lord J. Rusell) bad stared that he wished to mere
snore of the eremites of the Ilse arts from the Brains
Magee. to the National Gallery and to leave the nat. Os
toot be would give so nine. It wee • gamin which
kid ben onsidern by Mr. Nonce, and epos It his opines
ought 'a be takes. With regard to sellecUons en the coati-
Peek th•T Puma) eeresioted of epecitine of the See ans.
be It might well honks the arches rlogieal and fee arra sel-
ection from the Intuit Manes ; bat he (Lord .1 Russell
did not say en, for the Beftieh Manes bed room for Wee d-
ietitians, and they were of amain* to illustrate seek ether to
the otodeot of b..oks, of archeology, and the dos arts. He
thought th t having got such • collection, to seed the
mistrals, Ise botanical epecinnag, the are! e .logioal to!.
letting, sad the etuffod birds sod beasts to differ's% plain
would be unworthy of a government which wsethe suommor
of those who helped to form that eallontion. Ho coed not
ern to the proponent that there 00.14 be another tem-
mission of inquiry Into this sisbjeer, and he hoped the bill of
the remnant would be agreed to; bet he hipped that be-
fore the bone voted any ems of moan for the Pones of
a National Gail. ry, it would he wel cosisidered what was
t, be the chance, of the buildin, sod that the opinions of
qeel.flod persons, both I. this e .eery sad on the en Atter,
wend be taken, and he hoped that it would only be when
Lertlled birtheir nplonse, that gay gamey would be Trod.
Mr. 0 BRION supported the sO4Oll, but he did sot
earn with his noble kind In weals' to keep the National
Gallery of pictures on it. present site.
Mr. DISRAELI and he thoegtt it would he admitted
that a more commodious gaLery was oecresary. When,
then, was there an adequate site es which such
a gallery weld be erected ? They had been
overwhelmed with suggesting, and parliemest had
exhausted its wisdom. The noble lord had re-
counted all. the proposal., but he (Mr. Disraeli) asked
the home whether any of them had nutting practical is
them ? They might be glassed Leto propcs•Lt for the de.
dentin of r Majesty's pa'ene, end appropriation of her
Majesty's parks. It was, io short, a catalogue of se-
questrates and revolution. Iron the seat g
use et royalty wee brought seder contribartion,
nod the mansion of his Royal Higthnne the Peewee( Wales
was thrown late the o.eldeon. There was a eery of a sove-
reign who proposed appropriating a public pork, and they
hew what the newer wee; bet now creaminess of the
HOW. of COMMIS, treated the whole of then parks in the
most caroller mener, and they were to have a peters
gallery where it would certaiwy be ontrenient for nen
men, but whin wee wanting in crier rescutmeadation
He would e min beret however, to the narrow qot s in.
When his hes. friend the member for Warwickshire talked
of the site, evolves them le uslimited espeediture, be
enuld remind his hes. triad that in geppertleg sash as
nitre*, as that moved by the noble lard, he was to fee' en-
tering into • possible espend(ture which so one scald knew
the limit of. Let thee for a moment seaside, the sits
whin had been engested. No on dated Gist at least the
atmosphere was pare, end that it woe a site which eased a
sub ampler span than the presest galley. Sees would
my that its position was got so seaveolent—(bear, keas)—
list than was mains Ron diSsalt whose a petals

building wee eeeeeraed this serial, what wee,
fie Ily, the end esavealeat site. Ocala gestkethea
had told them to-eight that the won soundest eke wee
Cherie g-crow. He lived sew Charing-cram, bat if $ penes
did sot live near Charlaveroes, be might not weeder Tn .
fislcarcupaare the moat cosiveelent site. What they had to do
was to we is the first plass whether the site was imitable for
Ile purpose, and whether it was generally adeeeptable. II
Xsaslogton Palsies wee to In the mo Ist of • site—and
that appeared to be the p.a of thew who supported this ad-
deese—the ground of the e.ntroversy between thew who
were is favour of Bensiogtos Pilaw and those who were
la favour of Ronaington-gore was meth amend, inasmuch
es Kensington-gore was myth sewer. But bow
were they to decide what was the best site in an
incrwaing city lite Lood,nr Why, at this moment there
were great complaints of the learned societies that they
were disturbed at Somersethou,e. They were levited to
go to Reasingtoa.gore ; they proteated against the die-
tenet, sad they were to be accommodated at Borliegton-
howl. But 100 years ago those same harmed societies pro-
tested spinet hems located at linneraet-bouse, which was a
Wog disuses from the plain they had been accustomed to
gather in, and which they described as b.sg in a remote
I art of London. He remembered, when Bertram-square
was projected, that it wee said to be in a mirth,
and it was prophesied so ea, would live in that
region, yet they bad lived to sin, in • very short space of
time, a great, and powerful, sad rich city, be might term it,
on bat very grown, sad which was got very remote from
the site under direession. The sits had a gravelly soil ; is
all probability It would is time he surrounded by a new
town, but under no probable circumstances could it ever be
.seedosed. It always mast ban a spew of at less 700 acres
helots It, and it would always have in is own command a
seanderable area behind it. shod the hose. a that would
wise is the vicinity would probably be of that high nails
that there meld sent who from them the I. jerious
efforts whit* arose from those surrounding tee pre.
I seat gallery. He therefore thought there were no ohjec
times to this site that could be weed with reasonable
p'ausibility.
Lord PALMERSTON said there were two sat jeets which
be wished the hoses to leave *direly oat of view in the de-
onion of the subject before them. They had been told by
many hen. gentlemen that this was the first step
towards a great expenditure of public money. The
fact wee, however, very differeet. (Hear.) TM
bill, which was no doubt eubeteritiaily the topic Is the
minds of there arguing this qneation, eat simply a bill ft
tenable the publics to receive the traniiter of a sire. (Ram
hear.) Hon. gentlemen were of opinion that the hens
ought not to rush precipitately tato a ilea which might lend
to an immense espeedithre, sad that they ought to pause
when such a proposal was made. Now the fact was that
no tech proposal had been made. The house was not
sailed epos to adopt any plan. The only proposition woe
that the eosany should creepy • mite for a building white;
might be erected, bet what the sated of that building
lei, ht be, what the expense of its construction, what be
form sad orningement—all thee. ibises would be the
IseltWat of future deliberation, and the house wield
ant pledge itself upon any single one of thew tonics try
adopting the aware to which he bad referred. They had
been told that the example of f -ems, trtneactions of this
kind justified his noble friend in prep wing a committee,
and they had, moreover, beta celled upon to take wanting
from the building in which they then stood. Bat he (Lord
Palmenton) thought that that very building was the result
both of COMOirliollll and cienunitees—(thinr.)—end it was
hardly a fit sample to urge as a reason for further in-
coney. These facts, then, he asked the house to put oat ef
coosideratioe, for, in truth, the starting point on which
they ought to pressed was that stated by the right his.
thatlemaa (Mr D.1111411i) vex, ought they to condone le
lodge the stational aollecoon of pictures in the bend.
lag in which they at present wood ? He thought
that no man who had re Anted on this netting
would dissent from him when he said that the present
building wa objeetiouad• in its situation, and wag Wenn.
dent la Itself. It was too small fcr the eollectioa we bed;
it forbade, by Is sire, the intense of that collection ebbe"
by perches' or gift. le was quite true. se hid already nes
stated, that ant bed the ratios lost vsluable colleens=
which it might have bad, bat it had at the present sow*,
collections which could not be viewed for went of wen
inhibit them in. It bed been sugoest.d that ep.ice ANN
he obtained by getting rid of the H cyst Academy. (Hoy,
bear.) He put it to the booth whether it VMS nth
a natural object that en annual exhibition should inlet
of the works of talent of oar own artists. At
present, too, the Royal Academy was ;featly crimped
through want of space, so much so that annally no less
than 1.700 Ovens were refer d places. No doubt some of
these did not merit admission • but it was no less tree that
among their numbers were picture, of coneiderable taint,
which. if exhibited, would meet with many admirer,. Be-
sides this, it was de.irahle that there thosli be cools scan
for the inhibition of f 'reign stork. of art. But no one could
deny that space was required who had 'nerd into that
dampen is which sculptor. was exhibited—(o, ar, hear)—
sed wen work, of ort and genius piled thgether like the
Ithers on the head of an Italian bey is Sheen...re. (i Hear,
bear," and laughter.) He could u.t bs' thick that .fro
is etjourn abroad, there was nothice which stork ere
es forcibly to the dimadventage of the English character, as
the way is which these works of art were thieved. Tatting
IWeelreematsne into cousideratioe, there could be no
ha thitheht, that the Nati .nal Gallery mast be
tepees lletwowbere. The question then was, where was the
1181111111 g wllintion to go ? His noble friend waoderiog up
sad lowa In 'earth of a site—like Coed)* in war h of a
wine— (laughter) —had sensed several places. S tee et
these—such se Burlington House and Marlborough Boost
lo
-were open to the very objeetione whit% were urged easiest
toss protege site—vie , i's reposers to the smoke and dirt
INm Tim seals, he had thergested that a build•
I. Melt Is erected In rose of the parka. Now,
I make when the minister would be found who
would dare to prime such • scheme to the crown.
If any one did so, he would be leetant'y overehrlm-rt in
the worst of incligeatioa sad disapprobation which such a
scheme would give rise to. The rob!. lord bad indeed sue-
',stet that such a building might be merle ornetnereil to
the parka, but the question was, not how to onagers: the
perk, but how to keep them open foe the exclusive perms
to which they wen devoted. Hie noble friend had sug-
gested other sites for the prop peel heildieg, and had pointed
out hnw St. James's Palace and Msrleorough-hour might
be tate. down, the Prince of Wales being removed
to Berliner:ea-home, end a Nattered Gallery etect.d
no their site. At the very owlet it woe rot dab-
eolith anodes that say one, whither nobleman,
or subject, who had • right to the occupation of Marl
horoegh.hows, would demur to being removed to Bur
liegton.howe, a antidote in only motet inferior.
And, putting ell this sects., the hose. would lee that In tech
a tethers so this the amount to be paid to the crows for c the-
Pessation, cad to be spent is the erection of new pa'aees
and of the proposed gallery, would lead to an elyeediture
which the House of Commons would not *filled, assent to.
The real (punkin was. whether the house would cornet to
remove the National Oallery to the site propined,or whether,
eootrary to the (Thelon of all those whose opiates' entitled
them to ow shinnies, It would continue the gallery In the
present ineoaver.int, and to the pirthres, daogerons build-
ing. If boo. members retain the offered she, be (Lord
Palmerston) cottoned that be knew of no other
.tot on whiels it was porsible Ic erect a Nations! Gallery.
Under thew eiretossinees he hoped that the how* would

sot be led away by the insegfaetion of bis Rohl' hived, b.t
would avail themselves of CM enema opyrrtheiry wbieb
would bind them to no future szpendithrs of the ;labia
mosey. (" Hoer," and diem. )
The Posse divided on L•rl Hlcho's motion, when there
appeared:
For tbeutot'ort
Analyst It
The motion was sceordingly declared to be carried amidst
loud &wee.

Lord PALMERSTON announced 'hat the government
wetild propose to gz into cmantittee of supply the first thing
on Monday.
Mr. WALPOLE inquired whether, eezaiderieg the nar-
rowness of the dirk-iota Jest taken, this would not be a
fitting opportunity for earryieg out the anerrestioe which
woe made in the coarse of the debate on his Irish ednearioe
11111othr, viz , that when a ts. Von fm en addrers to the
crown was is carted it should be tsforred to a committee to
draw up the address.

Lord PALMERSTON thought tha usurstioa was well
worthy of atteatioa, bat it woald aw_ be deuirab's U ac•
urn it wail it bad been fully adopted ty the house.