The Express.
London, England, 1859-02-08 00:00:00

THE REFORM BILL.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE—Str fret evening of the
present session the tight han. the Mealier of the Ex-
chequer stated that the government had prepared and were
quite reedy with a new Reform Bill. Now so far, so well;
best the right hon. gentleman retro said that the till was not
to be introduced (Lead cr'es of "Order" from the
ministerial hunches.) I a only trying to make my question
in tiligible to the house. (" Order," sad laughter.)
Tho SPEAKER—The hon. member must not enter into
the argument of a Lamer debate. (Ministerial cheers.)
Mr. DUNCOMBE—The right hos, gentlemen stated
that this bill could not be brought in until whin important
Weimar of the country had been disposed of, and that
statement has led to some misconception and misande-
standing, and considerable misgiving in the public mind as
to whoa the bill is really to be brought in. Now, as there
should be no doubt whatever on a question of such import-
snot, the qtres'ion I have to ask is, whether it Is tbo intention
of the government during the present month to introduce a
bill for the somadment of the representation tithe people?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—The gees-
den which was addremod to me on the but evening of the
melon was whether it was the intention of the government
_ . .

rentilately to bring in • bill. I replied that it
re not the Intension of government to bring in
the IMIIIy, es there was other important i
burr which required the more immediate attention of the
bore. I indicated than chat the urgent brituas wee, and
I think the house would infer from eke particulars into whkik
' I went respecting the naval orates and some vs.tee In
'apply, that the delay I anticipated could not be very cos- ,
eidenat le. There is other business of importance, of which
my noble friend (Lord Stanley) hes given notice, and the
Irmse can form a proximate opinion as to the time the die.
corn of Indian Silence will take. The home is quits r
good • judge se I am on this point. (Laughter.) Theo
quarts will sequins some time for &scram, but as soon
at they have been disposed of, it le my intention
to introduce • b-11 relative to the representation
it the people in parliament. The hon. member
will undeestand that it is sot exactly in my power to fix*
day, but, letting a gener.l view of the Milne of the neer,
it la my bimodal not only to bring In the bill before Easter,
bat 1 hope to get 'he opinion of the house on the second
reedier before that time; and, as Rester is rather late this
year, I aho anticipate that same progress may be mule with
the committee previous to the moos. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. BRIGHT—What the poblie require Is time to con-
sider the bill before it comet to the second feeding. (Hear,
hear.) I beg to me ,amend, therefore—(Ministeriel arias of
Order ")—I beg Weak, then, if I ism not allowed to room-
mead, whether the right hon, gentleman could not some day
this week name • dry for the introduction of the bill, es I
presume that one night will be sulkier for its introduction.
The CHANCELLOR of the HICHIQUBR—I think I
have already answed the question. It is not In my power to
roe the pries day upon which the bill will be introduced,
bat I shall give due notice, and shall take care that simple
time be given between the introduction and the second
reading for °ordering Ng proposition.
ARMY CHAPLAINS IN INDIA.
Mr. HINNAIRD—The netts lord the Secretery of State
for India boo gives so porieinks to oak him a question with
reference to the reply of retreat chaplains fr our troops
I in India. I hold In my had extracts from letters from •
private end a not-ormisdamed °facer belonging to Sir
• Hope Grant's brigade. confirmatory of the at itelliont mode
byo the epeciel=de: owthithcie, Turn., aid L.in,:pleiniit

Own end de►th abound. I trust therefore that the noble

Iced w ll be able to give me some assurance that a provision
is to be made, commensurate with the wants of the troops in
• country where the number of chaplains to peculiarly hable
to fluctuate, from the nature of the &taste. I lag to ask,
let. What permanent incresas to the regain:. Bengel esta-
blishments of chaplains to the protmtant troops has been
made daring the last twelve months? tad. Whether it
L the Inuit:aims of the government to make any further per-
manent Mena" in consequence of the probability of a much
leaptSneak force than formerly be ng kept in ladle ?
Lend STANLEY replied that a year since the strength
of chaplains In Bengal was 68, Medias 36, Bombay 26, in
all 120. Since Then Bengal bad been raised to 80, Nedra.
to 40, and Bombe), to 30, in all 160, and in addition to this
tan sut nuteerariee were being sent out, who would ant be at
once a 'dad to the permanent staff, but would he absorbed s.
vacancies occurred. In addition to this there had been an
increase in the number of presbyterimi chaplains from IR
to thirteen.

THE ATLANTIC TELEGRAPH.
Mr. H. BERKELEY gave notice of a question to the
Chancellor of the Exchequer for to-day—whether it wee Imo
that government contemplated granting a subsidy to the
Atlantic Telegraph Compaq 1
CORRUPT PRACTICES BILL.
Mr. H. BERKELEY Wee gave notice of a quottion to
to the Attorney-Gmeersi, via, eels g the pratability of an
early disenation of parliament Osughterh whether it
was Weal= to bring in the Gann* Freeness at Elections
Bin in time for the neat elections to be carriel on order
its provider, or whether the new paellemeat was to be
elected =dm too present defective system?
THE BTADE DUES.
Kr. CLAY asked the Under &aviary for Foreign Afars
what program had been made in the negotiations for the
relief of the ships of this country from the Stade Does ?
Kr. FITZGERALD thought that ern cons dared= the
hon._ g* unman would see that the question was one to which
ha (Mr. Frtzprald) could scarcely gives eatiafactory answer.
The very form of the question suggested the idea that the
transmit= to which Me hon. seatieman sliwittl was still
is en imperfect state. Therefore it would be iceporsible for
him to give any inform= n at the present time which would
not be calculated to ati-lead those who were interested is the
'object, end perhaps embarrass the negotiations. In cos-
pliaece with the recommendations of the coromittte uf last
sts•ion, notice had been gives to tern.iriate the treaty with
Hanover, and communications had =toe mend between too
two governments, but no eatiafactory solution had yet been
come to upon the question, which was one of great diamdty,
and one which would continue to receive the most careful

con-identtion at the hinds of the government.
HARBOURS OF REFUGE.
Mr. WILSON inquired whether the royal commieion
si.prZttelle. porrtuto
rbour. x of
rategett
.robteadotpl:sl= n, upon the
the r report .
sad when the same wooM be laid upon the table?
Sir J. PAK INOTON—The commisaionere have not yet
beds their report, but ere considering it, sad when It is
pre.ented to the government, it will immediately be laid upon
the table.
SALE OF SPIRITS (SCOTLAND).
Viscount MELGUND wished to know whether ft was the
itteetioa of the government to move for the appoiutuseot of
• select committee to inquire into the t froa of the lees regu-
lades the sale and consumption of apirituous liquors in
Scotland?
Secretary WALPOLE admitted that some inquiry
was necessary, but whether It had bettor be by mans of •
commission or a committee was not so clear to him. He
would get a more definite answer on some future oomaion
If the mambos wee repeated.
LONDON CORPORATION REFORM.
Mr. HANKIY salted the Secretary of State for the
Heine Department whether It was his lineation to introduce
• bill for to reform of the &xtrition of the City of London,
sad when the same would be brought forward?
Pb. Secretary WALPO not my at present, see-
bg the amount of babes, already before the hob% en
what day that bill would kb brought in, bat certainly it
would not be until after the second reading of the Relent
Bill. (A laugh.)
PORTMAN-STREET BARRACKS.

Mr. E. ialtiNG inquired alb; BeerneryalWer whe-
ther the goverment bad taken ma y dip lir provide Mr
quarters for the Guards, In lieu of the -binwarem la Postmen-
street, which had long been condemned?
Omni PAIL was understood to may that 120,0001. had
been voted for estetitating now barracka for those in Port-
man-skeet, but that eons &Meaty had seises in the selec-
tion of seitable site. As icon as the she was determined
on, the hew berrecks would be proceeded with.
BILLETING.
Mr. CRAUFURD wished to be informed whether may
mad what alteration was to be made in the present law re-
lating to the billeting of soldiers and militia?
General PEEL reminded those who took part is the pro-
asedlap of the billeting committee of lest year, that he
stated it would be impossiole to make any alteration until the
=toyfear, the
the .maidtwriceeset:uppoutlicane for
them otheor
diaeocciobtr rhe
Militia Biii—a bill which would sh. rtly be brought M—
oss provision of which would to to raise eh' allowance from
lid. to 4d. a day, and to carry out the other recommendati.ms
al the committee.

THE OAHE OF STRATUM, PAUL, AND BATES.
Mr. H. SHERIDAN wished to put a question to the
Home Secethary—whather it west Writhe:Mon to teener:wad
to her 111 that 151 r Jobe Dena Feel and Mr. Straiten,
the Ist* balm., should be pinioned, on the ground that
they bad already byes punished to the extent demanded by
the laws of the °earthy!
Mr. therstary WM.POLE replied that the Quad= had
Um pet to him la alum that wu not calculated to coavey
as asowraho lepismioa all the facts, for it stated that Sir
Z. Paid sad Kr. %alma had been punished to the extort
desitheded by the laws of the country, which wu
sot the are It was obvious that questions of this
mature webs always painful to those who might
happen to 111 the situation which he now bad the
tumour to hold—(heer)—end under ordinary circumstances
he should request penniselon of the house to decline sneerer-
ing them. Ai, however, greet 'Menthes had ardent with ru-
%rents to this particular case, be thought it better to reply
to the question. in order that the house might be aware teat
parlienwrat itself had practically occasioned the complication
which had arisen. By the low under which these nelsons
were tried, end whkh wee sill unrepes'edoho offence of
which they were convicted—that of n gotiating and selling
securities which had been dip, sit ed with them for safe custody,
and appropriating the proceeds to their owe uee—was
able by transportion, nut exceeding fourteen years, nor less
than sever. Thom unfortunate gentkeuen were tried is
October, 1866, and convicted, not of one offence merely, but
of a seines of offences, from which hundreds of people suf-
fered, and which inflicted au amount of m'sery upon those
people equal to any punishment the law es it stood could in-
dict upon them. But nom then tathantent had, without
Topeka( that law, sanctiouci another—the Fraudulent
Trustees Act, which fixed the punishment for such °Amor
at not more than three end not less than two years' imprisoa-
mot. Under these circumstances, be had been pressed to
consider whether some reralesion of the punishment to
which Sir J. Paul and Mr. fitrahan had beset mitigated
might not be allowed. His first duty was to inquire ea to
u hat had bees the victice of the crown in oases where, after
a punieltmeat of a grave chaster had beta imposed by the
court, parliameut had posed as act' relaxing the penalty
of offences of a like nature • sad he had been =able to find
say record in the Home-once of • ciee where a person
tried under a pesticider law, convicted and .entenced, h id,
in ernaequence of subiequeet logielsion d•minishing the
punishment f r such offence., become entitled therefore to
any mitigation of the eeatonce. He mrtitioaed this because
represaitstions had been made by friends of these perilous,
and sometimes by p• moos of high rank, attributing to bun
(Mr. Walpole) that either from prejudioe, or a desire to carry
out the law with undue severity, he had imperilled the health
and even destroyed the mind of one of the prisoners Such
ropemutations Wile totally unfounded. (Hear.) The law
hams been so coutplkata by aubeequtnt legbletion, it be-
came him to contider whether there was any ground
for recommending at this moment not the mitigatoo,
fee that was not what wee eaktd—but the entire
remiridon of the puniebmeot of these parable. Now
in cases like this, whin a settee of gross &Imps netts had
beat practised, it bad mot Le-n usual to limit the putiehment
to the maximum of one off-nor, but often to add emotive
pucaluarnt for the other offence of which the
party was convicted after the first punishoi,nt bad
expired. He bad no means of judging but by conjecture
whet the courts would do, under ouch circumstanme, but he
had thought it right to Jaquith of the highest authority is
the lead, sad had been told by km that it wee wrong to
consider that the subsequent law was a virtual tetesl of the
former law entitling patties convicted under the first low to
some mitigation of punishment, without eating what that
mitigation should be. Placed in that dilemma, it tecame his
duty to ley down the mile bath. as to the future and to the
east. With regard to the future, it would be for the courts
to say when a case in which a series of offences had been
committed come before these, whether the punishment should
be themaximum punishment prescribed by the
act, or whether it should be accumulative. There
was no • difficulty, therefore' as to the future;
but with regard to to) gait, it was his duty to lay down soots
rule, and in laying down that rule it would be his duty to
take are that there should be no difieresco between rich and
nor. (Hoar, hear.) And he must further request the sup-
port of tee bowie in entreating any one who held the eines
he now filled • ith so much confidence as to believe that
without partiality on the ace hand or prejudice en the other,
he could have no desire bin to see jorke properly gamin's-
treed, end to discharge, to the best of his ability, a moat dile,
• delitato, and painful duty. (Hear, hoar.)
THE QUEEN'S SPEECH—STIFFLY.
The following paragraph boat her Mejesty's speech having
boo read:—" I have directed that the estimates for the
sleuth( year shall be submitted to you. They have bus
tumid with a due regard to economy, and t t the efficiency
of the puke° smith :"

Sir S. NORTRCOIE mond the second found vote that
a supply be granted to her blnitaty.
Lord J. RUSSELL observed that the romewbat bi-
ded:lite answer the right hon. gentlemen the Chancellor of
the Exchequer had given to the question u to when the
Reform Bill was to be introduced, led to one or two other

gneetkas. One of those was whether he would name the
day on which tho naval muireata were to bo brought for-
ward? The tight hon. gentleman emit knew on what day
be rropo.ed to lay those estimates on the table, and could
therefore say on what day he thought It probable that they
would be brought under the oonsid,ratlon of the horse.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not
definitely fix the thris at that sseesent, but would ask his
tight boo. friend (84 J. Paklngton) to take care that no
time wee lost in laying the climates upon the table. He
thought he bad communicated to the house with perfect
frankness the Intention of the government with regard to
the bid for amending the representagon of the people, and
he could net therefore but imagine that the nobla lord's

quedion was wrens* befoto the reply which he (the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer) had siren upon that subject.
Lord J. BUSHELL—On the contrary, it le in sour
quanta of that maw that I put the questica. (Hear•)

The motion was than semi to.
OCCASIONAL POKY OP PRAYER BILL.
Mr. Secretary WALPOLE, in moving the secood reeding
of this bill, explained that it had been found on looking
through all; the acts of parliament relating to this subject
that there was • Minute of Charles 11. requiring the Med of
October to be obeweedow the day on which the conspiracy
for seising thetown of Dublin was supposed to have been die-
covered; that would also be included-in the acta this bill pro-
posed to repeal, fa addition to those relating to the Slat
January, NM May, and btb November.
Mr. HADFIELD remarked that, considering that these
obeervanese were not only off, move to every Christian mind,
but regarded by many at impious, it woe astonishing that
them statutes should bare renorinM in existence for so many
yews. He wished, however, to know whether the
proposition had the sane.ion of the church, or whether
when the bill reached the other house they might not bed
that all their time sod trouble had been thrown away. He
also wished to Mr whether the improvement in the form of
Common Prayer wee to stop here, and contended that many
other alterations were nemesery. In conclusion, he moved
that the irsoond reading be put off fur seven den to give
hen members an opportunity of considering the subject more
=Moly,
Mr. NEWDEOATE thought some farther time ehould be
given for conablersion be'ore they were celled upon to wane,
den any alteradon in the Prayer-book.
Mr. ROEBUCK hoped the house would not
require
seven
days to do an ate of common soles. (Hest, hear.) it
to be said at this time of day that they wars to have epeeist
religious seniors for the death of Charles I. and the in-
tended blowing up of parliament on the foth Nov. by Guy
Fawkes ? He could not understand what his bon. friend and
colleague had to find fault with in the Preyer.book..(2l2?)
Thiswas a matter which concerned the church of
and hie hon. friend prided himself on being a disent
the members of the church of England chose le prey he
24 hours a day, that was nothing to his hen. hind. He
hoped the house world act like men of commit erase, and
having decided that those occes'onal prayete should be eli-
minated from the Prayer-bock, they would not postpone
the wagon for sewn days.
Mr. GREOSON thought tome alteration was needed In
the regulatOn which prevented marriages being sokenniecd
after 12 o'clock. (A laugh.)
Hr. Secretary WALPOLE observed that the bill bad
=to do with the Book of Common Pram. The cc-
services ware on established by a warrant of
the s'gn manual, and had been withdrawn by the ems as-
they ivy at the request of bo.h houses of parliameorder nt ; ead tbst
having been done, the bill was among in thin per-
sons should not be placed In the 1010101d044 poeitka of twang
required under a statutory obligation to olowve thrillers
Met they bed been dimmatiened by the aatbosity whtshpf
pored the obeervmee.
Idr. HADFIELD wilder,' his amendment, and the be
was reed a second time.
ENDOWED SCHOOLS BILL.
_ _

Os the motroniiii; KiiiWyrr
w..given to
being to a bill to amend the law respelling endowed schools,
which the boo. gentleman explAsed was walnut* 'belly the
name en that introduced Let mern.
Mr. Semehey WALPOLE intimated that to meentien
to the inuoduction at the MU, he must not be supposes to
epee to all Its dames.
CIVIL SUPERANNUATIONS.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved for
have to bring in • bill to amend the laws concerning eater-
=mations and ether allowances to persons heviog held
civil offices In the public service. The right hon. gentlemen
eaplained that thin bill wee similar to that brought in Lit
year, but which wav withdrawn in consequtnce of the pres-
sure of business at theclose of thermion ; and as the prhicipal
amendment moved to that bill, Ms., to include certeia alms
in the dockyards in its operation, was adopted in the present
measure, he did not anticipate any oppoeition on that head.
After some remarks by Mr. Wilson, Sir H. Willoughby,
Mr. Collier, and caw members, sad farther explan.tions
by she Chancellor of the Exchequer, leave was given to intro-
duce the bill.
IRISH BILLS.

Mr. WHITESIDE;;;;ci for leave to beim in a bill for
the abolition of manor coats and the better recovery of mall
debts in Ireland.
Colonel FaiNCH acd Mr. BAGWELL made a few observe-
Roos, end leave NM given.
Mr. WHITESIDE them moved for leave to bring in a
bill to facilitate she sale and transfer of land, by simplifying
and ommoildating the law rattraps to judgments, end by
providing for the peoterttea of purchasers against crown debts
In Ireland, stating the reasons for iatroducing tbe
arising from the present embarrassing state of the ea
and
the evils it creaivted.
aftw
Leave was gen, • few w from Mr.
Mr. Dobbs, Mr. Maim, sad Colonel Frdanboeds• MeEvoy,
Mr. WHITESIDE bkewise obtained leave to introduos a
bill for the abolition of receivers under the High Court of
Chancery in inland in certain asses, end kr giving further
facility to the sale of eneumbered estates.
Lord NAAS moved foe leave to bring in a bill for the
regulation of markets is Ireland, which, be add, greatly e -
ambled the bell of last year, except that it did not deal enter
fairs.
Mr. H. HERBERT was of opinion that fairs equally re-
quired regulation with markets.
Leave was given to introduce the bill.
Lord NAAS then moved for leave to bring M a bill to con-
solidate and &mead the law relating to the lunatic peer in
Dallied, the man object of which, he stated, wee is con-
formity with the recommeadaticas of a commieton, to sob-
ititute local authority in the management of the asylums fos
central sad gominmental authority, and he demented the
notchinery by which this system of management would be
can led out.
Alter remarks by Mr. Bagwell, Mr. H. Herbert, Kr.
Hatred and other Irish members, leave mu given to ia-
turduoe the bill.
Mr. HARDY obtained Rave to bring s a bill for the
better mansgrment of highways In Englandi
Sir R. FERGUSON obtained leave to bring in a bill to
facilitate intirnal communication in Ireland by means cf
tramro.ds or tramways.
The home, after tame farther business, adjourned at ten
minutes to tight o'clock.

THE WSITYINSTEIt PALACE HOTEL COMPANY.—
The third half yearly meeting of the shareholders of this
company waskeld yesterday, at St.Jarnes's-hall; Sir Charles
Russell, But., depety chairman, padding. The reptet
read by the secretary. Mr. H. W. Cram, showed that the
undertaking is favourably looked upon, the number of shares
now taken up bring 9,204. The peculiar local position of
the building ensures it advantages of which nothing can de-
prive it, while the carrying into effect of any of the several
praises; for connecting the railways on the northern side
' of the river with the Victoria Station must lead to a large
development of the business. The directors therefore wi-
dened to hold the most confident expectations of moors.
The building is being constructed In a most substantial and
permanent manner, and they feel that no reassable doubt
need exist that the building will be ready for occupation
before the close of the year. The imminent of amounts ex-
hibited payments for architect, coatractor, he., shoeing that
there was • balance in hand of 19,126 f. 9.. 1 Id. The chair-
man having made some few remarM ur which he elPremed
hie astlsfactiou at the general; anomarful program of the
Norton, company, Messrs. J.
addrassid the rinsing in
limale, Major.
Osumi Hay, and other gentlemen,
support of ono respective resolutions ; and the proceedings
concludedwith thanks to the directors aad
INQUIET INTO TIIE CONDUCT OE A CLEECIT.
MAIL —OS Thursday, pursuant to the reference of the
Bishop of IsMon. an Inquiry wen held at the Charter-
home into the conduct of the Rev. Henry -Hampton, late
'emollient of fit. Luther, Holloway, sad now minims,: of the
church of Sc. George's, Turiell-park. The referees, Arch.
deacon Hale, the Rev. Calton Dale, and the Rev. Micheal
othba, w. re attended by Mr. Lea, the bishop's screhry.
The inquiry was held with dosed doors, and at its cos:Mesta&
Archdeacon Ha'e said that the case spinal Mr. Hampton,
as Mr. White bad presented it, required no further eviden
but as it might be t edaieable by Mr. Hampton and
his legal advisers to prodeis widest* in answer, the hear-
ing should be adjourned to that day week.
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