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afterwards introduced him to the item. Mr. Pi

TOTNEB.
The commissioners met again yeaterda;
twenty-eighth of the inquiry ; Mr. Bertin the
Mr. John Pender was examined as follows
business in Manchester, and a member of
worth Ordnance Company, of which I was one
ginal promoters. It was formed in 1863, and w
limited company in 1865. I knew. through
ford's family that Lord Gifford was ill, and not
recover, and that led to my looking to Totnes. 1
in negotiation for a seat in parliament previous
refer to Great Grimsby. Mr. 51'Dougull
Grimsby to me. I then became acquainted
Drake, to whom I went with one of the leading ,
men of Great Grimaby. Thenegotiationwith Grim*
I asked Mr. sl'Dougsll in Oat., 1862, to go down I
and see what were the "respects. I had time on
and thought if I got into parliament I might
good in discussing the question of cotton cuiti
India. My business in Manchester is connected
cotton trade. Mr. IPDougall stayed a day
and then returned. He first saw Mr. W'

evening he met Mr. B. Gumming, mid
Lion then took place, the effect being ti
Gifford died some one would be brought forward
duke's interest Mr. M'Dongtll returned, and f

all idea of Totnea. Afterward; hearing of Mr.
Mr. M`Dotigall oanie down again and a del
I sent to me in London. had been

Mr. Seymour would not be accepted .
pendent liberals. I saw the deputation at Few
Mr. Emerson Tennant was with me, sad both
great interest in the Whitworth Ordnance.

questioned me as to my political principles man .
Volition afterwards expressed themselves natio&
them. I then wrote my address. Mr. Cumming
he was the head of the liberal party in Totnes
if he could give me any idea of the sum r
election expenses, and Mr. Cumming laid if
were contested it would oust 1,200 f. or

Chaster said if we began to talk of money he
the room. It did not strike me that 1,2001. or
a very large chugs for legitimate expenses. 1
told that the cost at Grimsby would be 1,0001.
The constituency there is larger than
I had frequently heard members of
state that the expenses in other places wei
came down to Totnes. After I had been hei

sent my confidential clerk, Mr. Jack, to fetch 1,-
1,4001. I told him to take the instructions of Mr. Cla—
ming as to what he was to do with the money. I believe
he paid 1,2001. in London to the account of Mr. Webber.
When I found Mr. Dent was determined to contest the
election I asked Mr. Durrant to tell Mr. Dent I would put
myself under any bond, if he would do the rune, tol
the constituency on pure principles. Mr. Durrant called
to see Mr. Dent, and was told that he was in the bands of
his committee and could not interfere with them. I
wrote the letter produced. (The letter, formerly
referred to, was read. In it witness stated his
desire to fight the borough on pure principles.)
I received no answer to that letter, and was told by Mr.
Mitchellthat Mr. Dent was annoyed at what be considered
to be an imputation in my letter that he would sanction
corrupt practices. I wrote again to Mr. Dent, disclaiming
any such imputation. I thick I had not sent Mr. Jack for
the money then. My chief advisers were Mr. Chaster, Mr.
Windeatt, Mr. Thomas Blichelmore, Mr. Jeffery Michel-
more, Mr. Cumming, Mr. C. F. Michelmore, and Mr.
Holman. Mr. Thomas Michelmore gave me to under-
stand. as the deputation had done, that I should have the
duke's support. I should not have come here without.
When I came down Mr. Jeffery Blichelmore canvassed
with me. I found on the canvass that I had • fair ma-
jority. There were a few who would not promise. Mr.
my partner, came down. Mr. Moore, •
friend of Mr. Nl'Dougall's, also came down. He was
said to be an able speaker, and Mr. M'Dougall brought
him here. I had no conversation with Mr. Dl'llallic about
bribery. I was displeased at his coming down, and
saw very little of Lim. I am not aware of his saying,
" You want to win," or of my saying, " I do ;" and his
adding, " Then leave it to me." I had no such oommu-
nication with Mr. ll'Dougall. On the evening of the AP
anif
lo ffweorldwdaspry
2d,eoootto
r„
pmt Dlr. dent w. en.re me throne s id
Cumming that
l allowed to po in, at the next election I might walk over.
Mr. Cumming rather urged me to give the 2,0001., but I
declined peremptorily. He did not tell me that there was
a number of men holding out who wanted a large
sum for their votes. After that Mr. Cumming
came and told me that Mr. Dent had retired un-
conditionally. I was much pleased, and under the
idea that only a small portion of the 1,2001. would be re-
; quire,' for expenses. I agreed to give 1,000/. to the town,
' stipulating that 500/. or 6101. was to go to the erection of
the British School Lere. I requested that a committee
might be appointed to distribute that money. I believe
that the committee consisted mostly of my friends, but
that there was one member of it who was an opponent of
mine. The poll was opened and about 171 voted for me,
and five fur Mr. Dent. I leftiTotnes the same day. I did
not come down at the time of .Mr. Seymour's election. I
had nothing to do either directly or indirectly with the
spending of money at Mr. Seymour's election. About the
opening of parliament 1 asked Mr. leDougall to get an
account of the 1,210/. that 1 had pail Mr. Cumming. In.
stead of getting an account of the 1,200/. he found
that there was 1,000/. more to be paid, so
that in reality my unopposed return in 1862
cost me 2,256/. The first time I came down to Totnea,
six or nine months after that, I brought down a cheque for
1,000/. which I had promised to the town ; but what had
happened produced a feeling in my mind, which led to Mr.
; Cumming no longer being my agent.
I Mr. Jack, Mr. Pender's confidential clerk, produced Mr.
Fender's accounts.

Mr. Pender's examination resumed—l have no doubt
that the money spent in 1862 more or lan aided Mr. Sey-
mour's election. I think the cheque of 1,0010/. for the
charities was drawn upon Overend and Gurney's. I came
down here in 1863. 1 had • conversation iu December,
1863, with Mr. T. Michelmore. I was then aware that
the duke's influence was considerate, and wished to know
how I was to be dealt with in the event of • double
election. I did not wish to be made the scape-
goat, and suggested that the expenses should
be divided, and if one were successful he should pay two.
thirds, but the decision was to remain with the indepen-
dent party, and not with the duke. I was told that a
double election here would cost 2,00/. From time to time
I have sent money to Tutnes for the charities. I was not
told when the deputation came to me that money would be
required for the back accounts. I bad no private account
upon which I drew for money. I may have sent down
cheques drawn on a Manchester bank. I have no partner
now. The partnership ceased about the middle of 1864. I
bad no arrangement with Mr. Seymour as to the propor-
tions we were to give to the chanties. Although I may
have had a little more money to give to charities than Mr.
Seymour had, I did not wish to put it to the disadvantage
of Mr. Seymour, with whom I wished to be on a par as
nearly as possible. I understood in 1865 that the reason
Mr. Dent was nut going to contest the borough was that he
had spent • great deal of money here. I came prepared
with cheques for 2,54a1/. if that *sum was requiraL I had
the money in five cheques. I placed 500/. in the Devon
and Cornwall Bank ; the remainder I had in my possession.
During the time I was here I received a dividend warrant
for I,raarl., and I paid it into the National Provincial
Dank. It lay there until drawn in the course of business
at Manchester, where there is a branch of the same bank.
It is possible that when I paid that money into the Na-
tional Provincial Bank I may have thought it would be as
well to give the manager of the bank here a little profit.
The cheques I had here were Overend Gurney's, upon
Barclay's, and were crossed. Mr. Chaster told me of the dif-
ficulty of cubing the cheques in Tutees, and I said he
had better send up to Mr. Salmon, my clerk, in London.
I did not see Mr. Chaster's letter, and I did not suggest
the arrangement that Mr. Salmon wax to meet Mr. Chaster
at Exeter. I never knew that Mr. Salmon paid the 2,0001.
into the Consolidated hank until the evidence gives be-
fore the committee iu the House of Coir.inons. I formed
the acquaintance with the Lorimer, through their being
Scotch and I being a Scotchmao. That was in 1862. I
was not aware of the money Lorimer paid then, or that be
kept back some for a debt due to him. I remember when
I canvassed Hill it was in a miserable loft. I found that
the wife was near confinement, and the husband said she
had not a blanket and had hardly sufficient food to eat.
I gave Mrs. Lorimer 101. to give to the Hills in pure cha-
rity. I received • letter from Hill in 1863 asking for the
loan of 200/., which I declined. I did not tell Lorimer
to go to Holman to get money for Reeve.
I Lad no idea that Holman was dispensing
money until I read the evidence. I never directed any
one to go to another person for money. It is quite likely
if Lorimer had mentioned anything about money to me
that I should have replied, " I know nothing about money
matters." Lorimer never told me that Reeve would want
• present. I had uo idea who was going to distribute
money. I knew that he was an active man. I should have
expected Mr. Windeatt to furnish the account, be being
the legal agent. I knew that the 2,0001. was to be speat in
bribery, and it was not my business to know anytbiag
about it. I was told the other day that Mr. Chaster had
about 3001. left out of the 2,000/. I remember the Nev.
W. H. James coming to me and telling me that pressure
was being put upon him. Ido not know whether I read
the letter of Mr. Edmonds then, but Mr. James said he
looked on it as an intimidation. I said it was
pomible that Mr. Edmonds might not call the money in ;
but if be did, and I could do tt with propriety, I woad
let him have the same money on the same security. I
consulted Mr. Windeatt, who thought there would
be no harm in loading the money on the same security,
I mentioned it to Mr. Heald, who was brought up in the
law, and be said he would give me a cheque upon • Man-
chester bank. He did so, and I went to Mr. Bowden, to
whom I explained the transaction, gave him Mr. Heald's

arama.

OLYMPIC.

A dress rehearsal of Mr. Tom. Taylor's new Irish
drama The White Boys was given at this hones last
night before a select audience, to teat the working of the
play before the theatre opens with it to-night. The prim.
cipal character, a heroine of the Arrait no Popue order, is
represented by Miss Mllly Palmer (her first appearance at
the Olympic) ; the hero, an lriah peasant, is represented
by Hr. Neville, and the low comedy part—an English
solicitor—is given to Mr. Dominick Murray, who is also a
new member of the Olympic company. Mr. Addison re-
turns to this house after along absence and many wander-
ings, and is fitted with the part of a blustering Irish land-
lord of 1795. The drama bas a strong homely interest.
though it is somewhat conventional in treatment, and the
actors exerted themselves in the most spirited manner
before an audience even more remarkable for coldness than
rehearsal audiences generally are. We shall notice the
drama more hilly after the public performance to-night.

GREAT YARMUCTII ELECTION COMMISSION.—
This commission will resume its sittings next week. It is
proposed to inquire into the election which took place for
the borough in lees 9 ; but it is understood that counsel'',
ouinieu he. ;:ecti taken es to vi,.ther coonaialioners,
under the terms of their eppoiutment, have power to go
into this matter. It is expected, however, that) the
inquiry will proceed as proposed.
THE l'HoPotiED BAS(ICLT Ti) MR. GLADSTONE
AT BELFANT.—We underatand that it is in contemplation
to invite Mr. Gladstone to a public banquet in Belfast.
Many influential members of the liberal party in the pro-
vince of Ulster have determined on taking steps to bnng
about this result, and a requisition will, we are informed,
be at once very numerously signed. We are glad to see
the liberals of Belfast and the province of Ulster anxious
to du honour to the statesman who is accepted
as the leader of their party, and whose great financial
services, and more especially ai respect to the commercial
treaty with France, have, iudependently of all his other
claims to such a mark of respect, so directly added to the
prosperity of this town and district. Mr. Gladstone
having himself expressed his determination not to take
prominent part in the reform agitation, it is not the
intention of the gentlemen who will sign the requisition to
make the reform question the principal ground for
sending the invitation. Taking a comprehensive
view of Mr. Ghulstoue's public career, they wish
merely to request the honour of his company at a
public entertainment, leaving it to himself to fix the time.
There can be little doubt that, if Mr. Gladstone's ar-
rangements prevent him from coining to Belfast during
the present autumn, he will in least accept the invita-
tion for some future period. The requisition will, sooner
or later, have the ellect intended. Air. Gladstone is
never more at home than in addressing his appreciative
audiences in the large cummercial towns of the United
Kingdom ; and, whenever he may find it convenient to
comply with the invitation, the impression lie will per-
sonally produce must be highly advantageous to the in-
terests of the liberal cause throughout Uister.—/Verams
if Aiy.
REPRESENTATION OF Laurence
Waldron has issued his address to the electors of Tippe-
rary. lie pledges himself, because he believes that Lord
Derby has " determined not to act Ull any exclusive prin.
ciple, but to put an end to the political ascendency of
every sect and party in Ireland, which, since emanci-
pation, is the most important move made towards the per-
manent peace and good govenimeut of the country, to give
him an independent support, so long as be administers his
govenonent in this spirit." lie lulls that it is desirable that
the "party which removed the Catholic disabilities should
apply itself to remove likewise the religious inequalities
which exist here," and he would therefore give any well-
considered plan for taking away this cause of irritation and
discontent his hearty support ; hut it should respect vested
rights. As to tenant-right, be always Fein:seated corn•
pensation for improvements ; and, regretting the differ-
ences of opinion in reference to the education question, he
would give his most anxious attention towards the satis-
factory settlement of it.
ELOPEMENT OF A CLERGYMAN.—During the past
week considerable excitement prevailed in the town of
Mansfield and the neighbourhood coneequent on the
rumour that the Rev. J. T. Brameld, incumbent of St.
John's church, had left the town in company with a
young lady named Paulson. So LULA/VIM were the
rumours afloat in the town, and so extremely opposite
were the statements, that' it wits difficult to decide
whether the rumour was true or lst. Since the elope-
ment of the parties sevensl letters have been received
ie the town from Mr. Bruneld, which leave no
doubt as to the correctness of the parties being to-
gether. One letter, we uuderetand, contained a cheque
for over 200!. (supposed to be the lady's money) for
the liquidation of his debts. If confirmation of the
elopement was required, this was °fielded last Sunday
morning in St. John's church by the Rev. Archdeacon
Mackenzie, who tacitly admitted the fact in his sermon.
The church was crowded on the occasion, the appear.
ance of the congregation being of the most mournful
character, especially amongst the I corer class, b
whom Mr. Brameld was greatly beloved. Mr. Bratneld
is a married man, and the ellen Las plunged his family
in the greatest distress. The young lady, who it 29
years of age, belongs to a highly respectable family her
only parent (her mother) being an invalid, and it is (Oared
her daughter's misconduct in this case will most seriously
affect her health ; indeed, we hear that she is now confined
Ito her bed from the shock she Las sustained. The
left the town, it is supposed, on Monday, the 17tIlintsit.es,
and they were seen IL Leeds nn the folluaing day the
town where the first letter from Mr. Brameld was dated.
The last vice-aunt of them is that they gulled for Australia
on Thursday last, the 20th inst. The affair has caused
I great consternation in the town from the position Mr.
Braineld held.—hrottingluon Daily Uvordian.
DESPATCH OF TROOPS TO CANADA.•—The Cana-
dian mail steamer Hibernian sails from Liverpool today
with the Ist battalion of the 'Xith Foot, comprising two
officers and 101 non-commissioned officers and men. The
Pennsylvania, belonging to the National Steam Navigation
Company, is now nearly oumplete in her arrangements for
the transport of troops, and she is expected to leave Liver-
pool to-morrow with 34 officers, 7 officers' wives, 13 chil-
dren, and about MO rant alai file, together with 74 wives
of soldiers and 100 children. She will also carry about
400 tons of warlike stores. In the first instance she will
call at Belfast to take on board the 24th Best., which is
intended to replace the 100th, now in garrison at Malta.
She will then proceed to Malta, where the exchange will
take place, and 'ltems*, without further interruption,
to Quebec.
The Londonderry Standard of Saturday says a
member of the constabulary force, stationed at Buedoran,
at left petty sessions, charged Patrick Daly and others
with reaping ooze ea Sunday. The defendants stated that
it was a work of necessity, caused by a high wind, which
at the time was parting the grain from the straw. Never
theism they were each fined se. and costa.

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'HE ELECTION COMMISSIONS. cheque, and the money was afterwards brought to me. I
gave the money to Mrs. James, telling her that if Mr. Ed-
—4—
moods did not call the money in it eras to be returned toms;
TOTNIX bat if it was called in the security far the momy was to
1 Lmamined;detwarimßeuezonrubftiNT)::wida:::_iy:Neaithin:
be put into an enveppe addressed to me, so that I might
have it when I required it. Mr. Heald is my secretary. I
eighthmmi of the
should say he never did any canentas.ing. I had a letter
from Mr. James on the 24th July that he held the
re
juli n
Manchester,Pener n
inquiryer s
was e
rdnance Company, of which I was one of the ori- security for me, and that the monserZ been called in by
welders. It was formed in 1863, and was made a Mr. Edmonds. It is not an uncommon 4
and not likel to thing for in* to
company in 1865. I knew, G through Lord if- let other persons hold security for money in • similar way.
milt' that Lord Gifford was
•
7 I conaidered Mr. James an honest man. The interest of
and that led to my looking to Totnes. I had oeen
, the debt has been regularly paid. The shares were not
iation for a seat in parliament previous to that-1 transferred to me, fortunately. I certainly have the ia-
i
e Great Grimsby. Mr. ll'Dougoll_ mentioned tension of asking Mr. Jallloll for the money, and I believe
rto me. I then became acquainted with Mr. Mr. James would have voted without reference to my
to whom I went with one of the leading political having advanced the money. If Mr. James had not been
Great GLiumau:st Eiheolzo ars: igo'th
downGrimsb toyTufailuiede; rv:teri I should have lent him the money. The rate of .
Mr. X'upon between us was 5 per cent.—that was •
what were the yrospects. I had time on my hands, about thaeliWk rate at that time. I did not advance any
night
money to Mr. Fowlee. I limply gave him advice as to his ahl
if I got
disuningt into
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of
tltuumiguohttiuduotiu sumo
uuj witb.regazd
to
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by
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i
My business in Manchester is connected with the
House of Commons, and here it is a complete romance. I i .
trade. Mr. 11•Dougall stayed a day in
who Totnes,
ne
ver offered him a sitostion. I went to canvass a man returned. He first saw Mr. WiDdelgt,„mind Auer, on the Plains. I mt., Harris, who said ..rin i
:dm introduced him to the Nev. Mr. Paull. In the in your way." I said, " Mr. Harris, you are very often in
he met Mr. B. Cumming, and a e9Feilsraei my wayiumit is a great pity that a man of your ability
en took place, the effect belng that it
of your party. " He rid, saidb,”t'tiTwtoishd, osirthan, youthweoulddirilmwdarkme
mditeedreitsomeldro.nemwpooulusand be broughty:u...ia f,our:dardl
gaveio the o[
something to do." I said, "You know it is impossible • , ,
of Totnes. Afterwards hearing of Mr. Mill's death,
that I can find any work for you. Mrs. Lorimer told
.me
Dowell acme down again and a deputation was that Mrs. Barns wished her to speak to me about a eta- 1 .
o me in London. I
had been told that ation for her husband, as he was sick of the work he was
ernour would not be accepted by the hide- engird on, and was anxious to get away from Totnes. I
t liberals. I saw the deputation at Fenton's Hotel. mid... yiraimow Mn. Latimer, it te Immo" viol inn .
thing
I
omen Tennant was with me, and both of us took do any for }Lards."
Merest in the Whitworth Ordnance. Mr. Chaster The Chief Commissioner—Mrs. Lorimer said you told
Dad me la to my Palitical,
___ principles_, and the"Vl' bar the time would come when you hoped to do so !—I
afterwards expressed themselves satisfied with said nothing of the sort. I could not have said so, because
I then wrote my address. Mr. Cumming told me
the bead of the liberal party in Totaes. I asked I had formed such an impression of Harris that I could not
recommend hint to any one, and I certainly could not have 1
1
*old give me any idea of the sum required for taken him into my service. As it was Harris's wide n°,
l expenses, and Mr. Cumming said if the election that unseated me I wish to state very distinctly that the I
entreated it would cost 1,200/. or 1,4001. Mr. statement be made as to the conversation I had with him 1
r said if we began to talk of money he must leave w an entire &imitation on his wt. / wish the commas.
;
,
m. It did not strike me that 1,2001. or 1,4001. was drum to ask Harris whether he was not instigated to
large charge for legitimate expenses. I bad been write the first letter he wrote to me after the electron, say-
rat AWL a the cost at Grimsby would be 1,000/. Or ' in fhe was prepared to accept the situation I had
oastituency there is larger than in Totnes. offered
him, 1.. .me peewits connected with the getting
l frequently heard members of parliament. up of the petition.
list the expenses in other places were larger. I Th. Chief Commissioner—lf you will let us know the
town to Totnes. After I had been here a time I names of those persons we will take care to examine them.
y confidential clerk, Mr. Jack, to fetch 1,200/. or ~,,__ .
ry was
proceeding
when
our
parcel
was
I told him to take the instructions of Mr. Cum- ,_!..ttlitl

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