The Express.
London, England, 1860-06-06 00:00:00

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CILERH TO THE PRIVY COI:MCI-J..

Mr. ORIIP ;sisatb; I.OW;Fili; Treasury
whether, in cede of my
Priest of • simeemor to the
Alm el Clerk to the Privy Council, be would impend the
dell= of the Embry to be allowed to the die tintS the
been
sill liedi
m ein d thei=aity of oosideris the rebid in
the
Load PAIMSTON, I. replansinied that Mr. &thend
W re tired nod Mr. Helen hailto emoneed
Idea The ease was remodelled irremsitsekdego on the re-
tirement of Mr. Oneviie, and the .to of the remain*,
clerk we Ida at moot. a year, at which rate it we. la.
WNW to emlinua it Them would, however, be a =of
DOM • when the Mike of clerk of return.feU
RAM WITH C COMMUNICATION AMERICA.

WYLD sated If it was the intention of the govern-
ment to fanish a ship or ships to survey the Northern
Ism far the purpose d Meting the practicability of laying
a Wmpephio cable from England to America by way of
Sestinnel, the Paine Islands, Iceland, Greenland, and
leibeador.

Lai 14 LII FILSTON said the Lords of the Admiralty
lel boa eonaulted upoo the subject, and they had DO ols•
jaitis• to furnish a ship for the purpose of making invest/.
ptions in some part of the distance, but it would not visit
all the stations
THE TRANSPORT SERVICE.

Mr. LlNDfiAYn;;ellora;;l;elCOMsritire to inquire
into the organisation sad management of those brandies of
the Admiralty, War-ollice, India-cdftee, anti Emigration
Board, by which the business of transporting, by mamas of
shipping, troops, warble, emigotols. materials of war,
stores, and'eay other similar services, was now performed,
with a view of adopting some uniform system
elaaralsieuyli
web orricee might ecouomimlly and
ecasinetai, seder the authority of one ammo•
Waled and reacomdbis &pertinent. The honourable
imam= altd it nesmemary tlist le should
War any remarks in brew et the Imam, as he understood
the* it would not be opposed.
Mr X. SEYMOUR ereondsd the motion.

Lord C. PAGET mid he should not oppose the motion of
his his. friend ; bat at the same time he feared there were
mom difieulties involved in the question than might at fret
sight appear. He understood his hon. friend to propose that
the Emigration Commissiooers should be formed into a pvr-
fectiv independent board, and that whenever the War-o Moe
required any transports, either for the conveyance of troops,
or provisious, or warlike stores, they should apply to those
comniimiunere with a view to having their arrangements
carried out, and that the Secretary of State for India should
do the same with regard to the whole Indian army. There
was no doubt that such a board would have to perform very
important functions, and he was not quite certain,
suppwttg such a board was established, that it might not
fall into some of the errors which his right ham. friend
the member for Carlisle feared from one independent board
having to deal with another iudependent board. He wee
bound, however, to say that he had nut heard there had
been such very great faults in the present system, nor any
want of attention on the part of the Admiralty. There wee
only one iroggestioo he should make to his bon. friend,
which was that he should soaker the words of his motion as
to leave it to the committee to report their own opinion
upon the natter. (Hear.)
Sir J. PA.ELNOTON expressed the great satisfaction he
felt at the government granting the committee. It
was not a convenient time to enter into a dis-
cussion of the details, which would become the
subject matter of inquiry for the committee.
Whatever arraugements should be made with respect to
the army of India there could be no doubt that the trans-
port of that army would require a speedy and economical
system. The pamphlet of Mr. Alexander Wood—aud
there was no man more competent than he was to treat of
this subject—stated that soldiers could be taken to India
and back, if the contract were for their passage both
ways, at the rate of rbf. • man; while the present sort
was about ISt. a man to go to India, and :W. to come
back again. With a better system of transport they might,
as pointed out by the bon. and gallant member for Wigan,
have a better system of relief, and it was highly desirable
that there should be an improved system for the soldiers in
India. Instead of sending out drafts they should send out
battalions, and each a system would be an advantage to the
army and more monomial to the public service.
Mr. LINDSAY said it might be wrong to grant the
motion as it stood, end therefore he would consent to the
latter part being left out. He would just observe that he
did not desire that the Emigration board should take upon
itself the whole duty of the transport service, hot it should
be remembered that that board was not fully occupied at
the present time. The motion then, as amended, was put
and agreed to.
CIVIL SERVICE F-CAIIINATIONS.

Mr. R COCHRANE moved that for the future the civil
service comnirioners should publish with their animal
report all the examination which during the year
had been submitted to candidates, specifying the proportion
in which the maximum of marks had been assigned to each
branch of knowledge ea divided amongst the questions con.
rained is each paper. He said that Lord Monroe/ had, in
another place, described this civil service examination as •
trader of the whole patronage of the crown to three
irrespowilsie gentlemen, who knew nothing whatever
of this departmenta to which the candidates, if successful,
were to be appointed. Lord Brougham had said that
when the plan was Ent promulgated, people held up their
!made in astonishment, and with these authorities to sup-
port him, he (Mr. Cochrane) was not demanding too much
ia asking that the commissioners who worked such an exa-
mination should be called upon to make their proceedings
as pablis is possible. The hon. gentleman had had before
hies, he said, mess of terrible hardship, in which persons,
after Now years of service, in the event of promotion or
teenier, bad been subjected to examination and been de-
' hated by yoaager INS crammed for the occasion. He
idate ex-
tions put to
eited • little by citing some rather perplexing goes-
cand&
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the mo-
tion was open to great objection, end could not be conaidered
apart from the speech of Mr. Cochrane, the animus of
which could not be mistaken ; he appeared to regard the
idea of examining candidates for the civil service by com-
missioners al mischievous and absurd ; and the real <pea-
dos which should have been avowed was whether the
arras should be maintained or abolished. He justified the
made of eternisation, and even the quedions cited, and
seaseted the unfair otmtagems that wouhl be prompted by
the mom Mr. Cochrane had recommended. The motion
was et the 111.11•1 of • censure and discouragement of the
iramemieleare,, and it was an attempt to force the house to
leierfase at a time when a corumittie had been appointed
M inquire into the very subject.
MT. SMITH. as an examiner of dm years' experience
M Addisceenhe, fully concurred in the opinion. expressed
by
u His Chancellor the Exchequer, and hoped the motion
wold mot be
Kr. BENT AIL contended that the absurdity of the
spasm of examination was palpable, slid read • series of
qessaions which went far to prove his argument.
Laid STANLEY mid that the fact of this motion bring
dlernmed in that house wee • proof that the Bled service
madness wore set an irresponsible body. In one re-
aps* nob* denied that the present system was superior
ao the foam ow sad that was that a candidate stood or
1111 byhdo
_own merits aloes, and without reference to aid
from Mob or patronage. He thought it sot fair to take
aM or Wei remerkahle gustiests is the examination papers
r specimens of the whet. • whereas the fact was that the
Memel diversity of subject was adopted, in order to coin.
pinhead the variety of knowledge likely to hrlon,s to
candidates miming from all pie of sources of instruction.
After some farther dimmers, the motion was negatived.

TRIALS
_FOR FELONY AND MISDEMEANOR.
Mr. DENMAN moved for leave to bring in • oill fin the
amendment of the proceedinp on trials for felony and mis-
demeanor. He explained that the object of the bill was to
assimilate the praetice in criminal eases to that which now
*anted in rah more to civil awed, by giving the counsel kw
the prisoner a right to address the jury after be had called
him evidence instead of before.
Mr. W. EWART seconded the motion.
The AITORNEY•GENERAL, in assenting to the intro-
disctin of the hill, thought the house were indebted to the
hon. and learned gentleman for the attention he had given
to the question. At the same time the subject was rue of
inelAderable diffindtv, and he therefore abstained from
pledging himself to any opinion apon the provisions of the
bill.
Leave was tLea given to bring in the bill.