The Express.
London, England, 1858-03-23 00:00:00

LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 23, 1858.

in private on mottos of political interest, but without seri via
la of the law. With regard to this wander meting. if
Ike were to have any particular opinion at all shoat xit was
that the hon. gentleman might know more of it aua M (Mr.
Walpole) did, for the head of it was, he was WM, sot as
Italian, but an Irishman. (Much laughter.)

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NON-PAROCHIAL REGISTERS.
Mr. WARREN 'Baked the Secretary for the Hem Dr
raiment whet/us his attention had beset caned eo the
report of the commissioners appointed to Mahe has the
Mate, custody, end authenticity of certain non-
registers or records of births, baptisms, deaths, awl
marriages in England and Weiss • and whether it was the
Masi= of the government to 61{4 in • NA daralli the
present seesion, in °Deformity with the unanimous mom-
mendatien of the comaiwiterm ix the pvpor ot
eleed=
the bpi met* M each rgfgey ban missi mlissee=mt"learts cijoetke; Wm 'Me-
lba die gmemmest was prepared to carry Isha des ss ba-
psibst emppedes of the eatomiusbeen, that the MA hal
iteirmi:/, earl sow is the beads of, thE=smer-Ommal,
• general Wei to all the 11111th the
Reglimel aed Wales Mess 1701, should pared We aws,
wad empries, ea recommended by the oomndesimem the
son- parochial registers referred to in their report.
Mr. WALPOLE said it wee the intention of the remit-
matt to bring in a bill on the subject.

- PUBLIC HEALTH ACT.
Mr. REPTON asked the Vioe-President of the Com-
pie
mittee of Council on Education whether it grad
tation of the government to proceed with the Pahße
Aot (1848) Amendment Bill during the meat of
D
patinmeent.
Me. ADB/ILLKY mid it wee his ininalln le morniand
the sibalte tio ascend reading o that bill be
It was Ids Intention after BOar tof introduce anottaVelian
the sildeot.

AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS (SCOTLAND).
84 A. AGNEW asked the President of the Board of
Trade idolise her lididisty's govornment intended tomato
any annsgentent be the collection of agricultural statistics in
Scotland dining du ring you.
bit. HINLIY rad the Katie** in Scotland wen col-
hattad under a ball voluntary arrangement, but they were
paid for at the pub& aspens at a moderate charge. AU
Lards% ha behaved, ars a reedy assent to the system, but
thought It that saye.tlic matey could go into
the hands of the pelmet or the without being audited
by mew . (Hon.) H. had given some attention
to the ealtisom=sitsaid asthma to do so ; sad If, on oom-
mualosting with those who sun better acquainted with
Bcothind then hasself, he maw his way to carry out this
object, doped upon it he would melees sk.ht of it.

TEE CAPTURE OF THE CAGLIARI.
Mr. KINGLAK E asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer
whether her Majesty's government had received fay in-
formatirm respecting the liberation of the =glass" Watt by
the government of Naples, and when the papers connected
with the subject would be laid on the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the go-
vernment received information two days ago that in cense-
gammon of the representation' of Mr. Lyons the King of
Naples had given orders that Watt should be immediately
released without conditions. He was accordingly released, and
was now, he believed, on his way to this country. Orders had
also been given that the trial of Park should be commenced
Immediately. That morning they received • despatch dated
the 16th of March from Mr. Lyons, who stated that he had
repaired to Salerno to attend the trial. Mr. Lyons spoke to
Park in court ; ha said the proceedings were going on with
great decorum propriety, and impartiality; that the argu-
ments for the defence were listened to with great attention,
and that the argument of the Attorney General wasmoducted
without passion—(laughter)—that he (Mr. Lyons) bad an
opportunity of being alone with Park for a oonakerable time;
that Park was well lodged in a room looking upon the sea;
that he was well clothed, and well attended in every respect •
that he was " in good heart," to use his own expression, and
animated with a feeling that he was not forgotten by he
country. (Hear, hear.) Instructions were sent to Mr. Lyons
that he should not leave Park while in this position. Mr. Lyons
was sanguine that the result would be favourable to Park, a
feeling which he was glad to say their unfortunate cotuttry-
sea fully shared. Thor papers, which were voluminous, world
be pieced before when:eat as soon as they were ready.
THE INDIA BILL AND THE EASTER HOLIDAYS.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave notice
that on Friday net he should ask leave to introduce • bill to
transfer the government of India to her Majesty, and in case
the debate on that motion concluded on that evening, he
should then propose, if agreeable to the house, that the
house should adjoarn to Monday, the 12th of April. (A
laugh )
THE CHANCELLOR OF IRELAND AND THE

ORANGE SOCIETIT
Mr. OSBORNE aid he wished to correct a statement
which he made the other evening to the disadvantage of the
Lord Chancellor of Ireland. He stated that the Lord Chan-
cellor of Ireland drew up the rules and regulations of the
Orange Society. He wee bound to say, from a letter which
he received from the Lord Chancellor, that that statement
was not correct. These mks and regulations were put before
him in his professional capacity as a barrister, and he gave
his opinion on them. He had been led into an error for
which he wee sorry, end he Naked pardon for it. (Hear, hear.)
CONSOLIDATED FUND (10,000,0000 BILL.
This bill was read a third time and pared.
CONSOLIDATED FUND (500,0001.) BILL.
On the motion for the third reeding of this bill,
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said he had on a former ocosation
called the Woad= of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to
the expediency of task* a change in the form of exchequer
bills by adding canpour, and the right hon. gentleman said
the subject was under the consideration of the government.
He now wished to all his attention to another point which
was still more pressiog—namely, the expediency of making
some such change in India debentures. A great number of
these debenture■ would probably be issued, and the incon-
venience of being obliged to carry them bodily when a
signature was required was very great.
The bill was then read a third time sad passed.

since had ventured to propose a bill to do sway with the
oath of abjuration, and thereby relieve protestant Christians
from the necemity of taking • saperfluotes and absurd oath.
(Hear, hear.) The object of this amendment wee that all
members shoold on their admission take the same oath, and
he Amid feel compelled to vote for it ; at the
mane time he felt it would have an unfortunate
affect on the success of the bill if the amendment was
carried. It was good policy under some circumstances
not to attempt too much at a time, and If they yielded now,
it did not follow they would not have another opportunity of
placing the ooping stone to which the hon. gentleman
alluded. After all, were not the Roman catholios in a better
position as to sweating than protstant Christians P The
protestants had to take three allegiance, supremacy,
and abjuration. He considered he would make a vary good
exchange II he was permitted to take the catholic oath in-
stead of she three now required from him. What was still
mon absurd, he was under the necessity of abjuring non-
existent persons. When be tame to the table he was
obliged to invoke the Deity, and abjure the descend-
ants of James 11., although he knew they had no esteems.
Let them not at ppreeeseenent make the bill carry too much. They
would dad it difficult 'to emancipate the Jew, ; let
them lay by the Roman for the present—they would
have a future opportunity of relieving them.
Mr. PALK argued that the House of Lords would not
pug a bill in deference to a private member which it had re-
fused when introduced by • strong government Were they
to go on for ever debating this question P The bill was jut
the same es those previously introduced, and it was waste of
time to discuss it. Would the noble lord undertake, if the
hill wars needed, to p opose a resolution sealing Baron
Rothschild by declaration
Mr. I. D. FITZGERALD had waited to hear the views
di the government, but what bed been stated on their part
leaked late treating the question with debate. He did not
think that the adoption of the amendment would endanger
the bill, and urged that they should take advantage of the
enema measure to render the oath of the catholic lees die-
teetotal to them.
Mr. HORSMAN urged that it was impartible for any one
to swear truly that the Pope had ne eodestioal authority in
Ireland. Still he thought that they might be satisfied with
the protest they bad made against the words, hoping that
the Roman catholic oath would hereafter be the subject of a
separate bill.

Lord PALMERSTON mid he concurred very much In
what bad &Ilan from his noble friend the member for the
City of London. Undoubtedly it was desirable that one oath
should be taken by all members if any one oath could be
framed which would be sufficient for the purpose; but,
although it might be repugnant to the feelings of Roman
catholic. to disavow doctrines which no man of this day
entertained, and although it might be desirable to alter the
oath in that mepeet, he speed with his noble friend that
they had batter diem.. of the matter In hand without
complicating it with a quake that did sot strictly belong
to the bill. (Rases, hrs.) No one amid diegnies from
himself that the pursing of a hill to enable Jews to sit in par-
liament was a matter of groat difficulty ; their experitem
showed
i thaktnitthe did not think the best way of surmount-
log one d was to create unnecessarily a second.
(Hear, hear.) He agreed with his noble friend that if they
attempted by means of this bill to improve the position of
Roman cathollas, they would add to their difficulties, and
make It almost a certainty that the bill would not be carried;
and he joined in the recommendstion given by other members
that the hon. gentleman (Mr. Cogan) would content himself
on that occasion with having made a protest.
Mr. L. W lORAM must protest against the disposition
evinced to view this question merely as one of time. The
oath proposed in the bill appeared to him most faulty, and
he was convinoed that it would excite disapprobation through-
oat the country. As regarded the declaration that no foreign
prince or prelate bad any spiritual jurisdiction in this realm,
the interpretation which he had always pat upon the words
was, that the Pope had no jurisdiction lawfully and he
should not object to the Insertion of the word " lawfully."
Mr. STEWART mid that the words, " by right" would
be preferable to the word lawfully. Right included law, and
extended somewhat beyond it.
Mr. C. PORTESCUE objected to the bill on the ground
that it would have the effect of re-enacting • most objection-
able portion of the old Roman catholic oath, while it would
leave Roman oatholics in a more invidious position than they
week prevent.
Mr. HASSARD supported the amendment.
After a few words from Mr. COGAN,
The house divided :

—Par the amodmsmt
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LordI.VISSRLL moved to omit the words " directly
or indinaily."
Mr. WALPOLE bad to objection to the caniegon, sa the
words we boa tare oath taken by protestant*.
Mr. NEWDROLTS moved as an amendment the omie-
sion of clause 5, by which a Jew, if returned by any coned
tuency, wee allowed to leave out the words "on the true
faith of • Chriatimt." The hon. member argued at much
length against introducing in the parliamentary oaths a
change which would have the effect of unchristismising the
hire.
I Mr.l GILPIN, In opposing the amendment, maintained
that mot only the principles of religious liberty but the dig-
ni
ofty of Christianity Resit, would be promoted by the remevel
Jewish disabille.
Mr. DRUMMOND admitted the political propriety of the
f011111111f• which admitted Jews to parliament, but believed
that it was altogether incompatible with a maintenance of
the union of church and state.

Mr. BYN6 obssr•ed that toleration wu the life-blood of
the Christian religion. One relic of intolerance still re-
mained in our °ode, indirect in its operation, and introduced
for the purpose of prohibiting • Jew from entering the leghi-
lature. He called on the house to obliterate this last trace of
the ancient disabilities.

Lord R. CECIL insisted that the functions of parliament
were to a great extent connected with the discussion of
religious questions. On this ground he argued that no one
wee 8t to be a legislator who did not profess the national
Mr. HUGESSEN opposed the amendment.
After wane explanation from Mr. T. DUNCOMBE,
Mr. C. FORTESCI: E contended that the claws it vaa
proposed to canoei was the best and most important feature
to too bill.

The HOME SECRETARY explained the reasons which
Induced him still to persevere in the coarse he bad previously
followed by continuing to vote against the removal of Jewish
disabilities. The plea of right, he observed, could not be
supported.ottm. coact
every court:Ttsthoe le
wn tisetture. had a
The Hcitisb
parliament recognised many exclusions. Minors, women
clergymen, and aliens could not hold seats, for reduces
which every one admitted • and to excluded classes
were added that of non-Christians, whose unfitness
to participate in the legislation of a Christian
State he adduced many arguments to prove. It
might be said it was expedient to satisfy and ',ratify a most
respectable clam, faithful to their Queen and obedient to the
law ; but he might ask, was it expedient to alarm and giro •
shock to the religious feelings of a large body ? (Hear,
hear.) It might be expedient to respect the scruples of the
Jews, and not bind them to make this declaration ; but was
it not expedient to respect the religious scruples of those
Christians who would think, if the law was al-
tered, they would be making Christianity retreat be-
fore its greatest foe. It might be said it was
expedient to draw • distinction between public and
private life; but if in private life they felt bound to uphold and
act on Chrstian principles, was it not expedient, when they
muse into a public assembly, when they had & larger circle to
effect, still to hold the same principles and show themselves
believers in the sates Christian faith? (Hear, hear.) Hs
had promised not to detain the house long : he could only say
he hoped it was the last time be should have the pain of
making a speech on the subject. (Lond cheers and laughter
from the opposition benches.) Those cheers showed how they
had taken in cos somas whet he had uttered in another. If
ever they wars to admit the Jews it moat not be in the way
suggested by the bon. member for Finsbury—they must not
break down the walls of the constitution, but open the
gates and let them in. So long as he sat in
that boom nothing on earth should induce him
to consent to see one house of parliament set itself
up against the other, and by • resolution of one house dis-
pense with the law of the land. (Hear, hoar.) He would
only make one other observation. When first the noble lord
bmught forward • bill of this kind, he (Mr. Walpole) bad
only been eight months in the house. He took some part in
the discussion, and was afterwards requested to see a Jew of
great eminence, and for whom he entertained a high respect.
He did ace him, and he spent an hour in pointing out the
reasons which he considered ought to influence him (Mr.
Walpole) to change his opinion. Ho dwelt principally en
two that his ancestor* were not in the Holy Land when
the crucifixion took place, and that if their position wiling re-
versed he would have acted differently. As to the first point,
he (Mr. Walpole) said he was willing to believe the
statement; as to the second, ha replied, " Let on go
back three thousand years, and 'appose we are both
living in Palestine in the time of the Judges. Yon ase
a descendant of Abraham and a believer in the true Jehovah.
am • beathem and not a balker; it I were chosen am el
the judges would you allow nos to sit?" The answer, as it
must be with any hottest Jew, was "No." The same argu-
ments still influenced his (Mr. Walpole's) mind, and be be-
lieved the noble lord would have some difficulty in displacing
there, more eepecisdly when he recollected that Christianity
formed • part of an our institntims. The monarch swore
to maintain ft, and tie judges had declared it was
part and parcel of the law ; and the House of
Commons reompdisd it, by requiring their proceed-
inn to opined with yer, in the nos
of him fromwhom they ware Christiana. The psis-
all their institutions that
dwrtilet, of
Eishr=tLeZeodperoonstli his reveries for
their antiquity, and esteem for their moralT qualities and ex-
tensive ebsrity, when he was asked would he change the
whole tharactar sad policy of the institutions of ibis coun-
try. he could only reply, that as the Jews adhered to disk
nationality, so wool hen have the house and the country ad-
here to theirs. Ha made that declaration, not hastily or
rashly, but edyissdly, In the words of the dicisastke,