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383 990. Dn. 1870,d0.. 100 I 1.68 114 -
1.040,0001 Do. 1871 do,- 100 INM 186 -
100,000, Maurtttual psi et, Ira' 100 101 104 -
100,0001 Do. 18711 100 ' 104 106 -
100,000 Do. 1888 100 ' 106 107 -
I 00.000! Do. tem 100 1 107 tes
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186,009 New BranaGov.apereS. 100 I 96 98 -
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864,000. D0.6p.e.r,1887 to 187/ . 191 96 97 96:
160,009 New Zealand Ipso swat. 1 180 104 106 -
1.000,000 Do. Sper ant 140 90 IPS 911
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY, JULY 29.
IN the House of Lose. yesterday the Earl of
MALKIIIIBUSY stated that the Earl of Derby wa■
unable from illness to attend in his place, and it
therefore devolved on him to move that the house
go into committee on the Representation of the
People Bill.
Lord HALIFAX moved " that for the purpose of
effecting a settlement of the question of the redis-
tribution of seats the proposed scheme is inade-
quate, and that it is expedient to provide the
means of giving more representatives to large and
important constituencies than are given by this
bill." The noble lord said he had been challenged
by the government to propose an alternative plan,
but he declined to do so because that would be
needlessly interfering with the duty of the govern-
ment. He was only actuated by the desire of
effecting an early and a satisfactory settlement of
this great question of reform, and although an
ardent admirer of the action of parties in a repre-
sentative form of government, he did not bring
this forward as a party question. From his
knowledge of the working classes he did
not think that they would abuse the
privileges this bill conferred upon them,
and he could have wished therefore that the redis-
tribution part of the bill had been conceived in the
same spirit. The bill only proposed that one
member should be taken from boroughs with a po
pulation under 10,000 returning two members, but
there were ten boroughs each returning one mem-
ber with a population under 5,000, and with an
aggregate population of only 38,000. Strongly
opposed as he was to electoral districts, he de-
nounced this scheme as full of inequalities and
anomalies. He considered that they ought to
abolish some of the small boroughs. He did not
think it was desirable to lay down any limit, but
that the case of each borough should be considered
on its own merits, and its representation trans-
ferred to whatever place was more worthy of and
more entitled to it. With respect to the increase
of the Scotch representation he should prefer that
the seats should be taken from small English con-
stituencies, and given to places in Scotland that
were more worthy, rather than that the number of
members of the House of Commons should be in-
creased. He also suggested that it was desirable to
give three members to the largest counties and divi-
sions of counties, rather than divide them into three
constituencies. The claims of the metropolis stood
on a different footing, and the government had
given it a fair proportion of the seats at its dis-
posal. If the scheme were enlarged, as he hoped
it would be, it might be desirable to further ac-
knowledge the claims of the metropolis. In con-
clusion he impressed upon their lordships the
policy of making the bill as complete as possible so
that there might riot be the slightest pretext for
further demands.

The Earl of MAtmEssres. defended the govern-
ment from the charges which had been brought
against it, not only of inconsistency but of or-
ganised hypocrisy. They were bound to consider
the circumstances of the times in dealing with this
question. It was hardly to be expected that this
bill should be complete, for it was a measure of
compromise, and it was only possible to pass it as
a compromise. The House of Commons had occu-
pied five months in passing it, and it was only
passed then after repeated discussion of every
possible point, and the exercise of the highest
diplomacy and conciliation on the part of the
leaders of parties. It was, therefore, hardly be-
coming for their lordships at the eleventh hour to
interfere with a scheme that was the result of
so much time and labour, and which was so pecu-
liarly the province of the House of Commons. If
they adopted this amendment, it would, when
carried out in its details, really amount to another
reform bill ; and could they expect the House of
Commons to go through all their labours again at
this late period of the session ? The only result
would be to defeat the bill for this year, and throw
the question again into chaos and confusion.
The Earl of CARNARVON while admitting the
privileges of the House of Commons to the fullest
extent, claimed fur their lordships equal rights in
dealing with this as with all other questions. Not
considering the redistribution scheme at all likely
to be permanent, he was nevertheless reluctant to
support the amendment.
Earl DE GREY and RIPON supported the amend-
ment, and said he hoped their lordships would not
be deterred by the arguments of the Earl of
Malmesbury from improving the bill in any manner
which they thought most desirable.
The Duke of CLEVELAND strongly supported tho
amendment.

The Earl of Boitrmy objected to it, as involving
a vote of want of confidence. He was, however,
ready in committee to give every consideration to
the amendments of Earl Grey.
Earl Rt sagm. remarked that it was impossible
not to feel that within a few years there would be
an agitation for a great change in the distribution of
seats, and it was in their power now to prevent it.
If the government induced the house to reject this
amendment, they must take the responsibility of
the agitation which would undoubtedly be nailed
in a very short time.
Lord TAUNTON and the Earl of HILRZOWBY sup-
ported the amendment, and

The Duke of BUCKINGHAM opposed it as unfair.
It was intended to enlist all the opposition against
the bill without committing those who voted for it
to any scheme of their own. The government were
bound, after all their professions, to accept the de-
cision of the House of Commons, and support it to
the best of their power ; but they had not the least
desire to prevent their lordships from considering
and amending the bill. All they objected to was
the rejection of the bill in this peremptory man-
ner, before they had the opportunity of oven con-
sidering it in committee.
Lord Stratford de kedcliffe and Earl Fortescue
followed in support of the amendment, and Lord
Denman against it, after which the house divided,
and the amendment was rejected by 100 to 59.
The house then went into committee on the
bill.

The Earl of ROMNZT moved an amendment to
clause 4, requiring that lodgings shall have been
occupied from the 31st day of March instead of the
last day of July, but the amendment was nega-
tived without a division.
Lord CAIRNR moved to add to the definition of
lodgings the words " or being one and the same
set of chambers and rooms not separately rated,"
and after a short discussion the amendment was
carried by 124 to 76.
Another amendment by Lord Cellars to raise
the lodger qualification to 161. was also carried by
121 to 89.
On clause 6
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The Earl of HARROWBY moved to raise the copy-
hold qualification from N. to 101.
The Loan Clisarentort agreed to the amend-
ment.

Earl Ga.sigviLLa hoped that the government
would not accept amendments of this kind, which
after all would have no practical effect on the
operation of the bill.
After some discussion the amendment was
carried by 119 to 56.

47} o

Farther progress with the bill was then post-
poned, and the house adjourned at half-past 12
o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAY, JULY 29.
lit the HOUBB of COMMONS, the CHANCELLOR of
the EXCHEQUER stated, in reply to questions from
Sir John Ogilvie and Mr. M`Laren, that he intended
to move that the Scotch Reform Bill should be
committed pro forma, in order to insert in it the
amendments made in the English bill so far as they
were applicable to Scotland, and to have the bill
reprinted with those amendments, but it would be
premature to do that until they know what amend-
ments would be made in the English bill. He did
not contemplate taking any discussion on going
into committee pro forms.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER further
stated in reply to Sir G. Grey that it was not
intended to proceed this session with the Parlia-
mentary Elections Bill, and the order on that bill
was discharged.
On the motion for going into committee of
supply one or two questions of minor importance

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were brought forward, after which the house went
into committee, and the sum required for the Bri-
tish Museum, 99,6211., was voted after a discus-
sion' in the course of which the CHANCCLWR of
the EXCHEQVZR announced the intention of the
government to take measures for the separation of
the natural history collection from the other col-
lections, and to bring in a bill to carry out that
object next session.
Lord ROBERT MoNTAti r, in moving the education
vote of 705,8651., stated that there was a small in-
crease of 11,3351 over last year, and that during
the year there had been 80 school rooms built, 50
school rooms enlarged, and 61 teachers residences
built. The number of schools inspected was 13,586;
there were on the books 1,510,871 children, and of
these 1,287,000 had been presented at the inspec-
tions, 664,000 had been presented for examina-
tion, and more than five-sixths of these had passed
in reading, writing, and arithmetic. Then there
were 42,700 scholars in night schools, showing a
marked increase over previous years.
The vote was agreed to after a lengthened dis-
cussion, in the course of which Mr. J. S. Mill
congratulated Lord Robert Montagu on having
expressed an opinion in favour of technical educa-
tion ; and Mr. W. E. Forster remarked that tech-
nical schools were required in order to enable this
' country to compete withcontinentsl nations, which
have technical schools, and that the feeling that
the people should be allowed to tax themselves in
order to promote middle-class education was
getting stronger.
The house then resumed, and on the order of the
day fur going into committee on the Parks Regula-
tion Bill . .

Mr. LOcax moved as an amendment, "That it is
inexpedient to proceed further at the present mo-
ment with any bill fur the regulation of the parks."
Two other bills had been introduced on the same
subject, the provisions of which differed from this,
but they had been withdrawn, and that showed the
difficulty of dealing with the question. He ob-
jected strongly to several of the provisions of this
bill, and especially that which gave the stipendiary
magistrate power to convict without the interven-
tion of a jury.
Sir C. RUSSELL, in order to show the necessity
for the bill, read a molution agreed to at a meet-
ing of East-end tradesmen called to oppose the
Sunday Trading Bill, to the effect that if the bill
were carried they would get up a great Hyde-park
agitation against it.
Lord AMBERLEY observed that when there was
no excitement the bill would be inoperative, while
in a time of great excitement it would be worth-
less, because there would be no difficulty in raising
the 101. line, and if the magistrate committed the
offender to prison the offender would be regarded
as a hero, and the worst of causes would be helped
by such proceedings. No government was ever
more indebted to public meetings than the present,
for they could not have carried their bill without
them, and it was most ungrateful in them, having
received that assistance, to turn round on the Re-
form League in this way.
Mr. COWPER thought that public meetings were
valuable, but that they ought not to be held in the
royal parks. Some of the provisions of the bill,
however, ought to be modified.
Mr. SerjeatitOssELEE opposed the bill, as being
of a dangerous character.
Mr. HARDY defended the bill, which he said was
not at all intended to interfere with the right of
public meeting.
Mr. GLADSTONE was by no means prepared to
refuse to legislate on the subject of the parks, but
he did not think this matter had been suffi-
ciently considered, nor did he think there was
sufficient time at tbia period of the session to con-
sider it, and he should therefore vote for the
amendment.

He thought it right with regard to all places, in
London or elsewhere, of which the government were the
appointed guardians, that they should have power to
determine what were the requisites for public order in
those places on their own responsibility, and according
to the occasion as it arose, and he was satisfied that
no administration would partially exercise such a power,
but, in his opinion, the matter had not been suffi-
ciently considered, nor was there time left for its due con-
sideration. (Hear.) If the amendment of his hon. friend
the member forSouthwark was, as had been said, equivalent
to a motion that the house should go into committee upon
the bill that day three months, it might be construed into
• pledge by the house that it would not legislate on the
subject, but it had been carefully worded to the extent
only of expressing the opinion that the present time and
circumstances were not wisely chosen for legislating upon
the question. That was • proposition which he (Ht.
Gladstone) was prepared to maintain, and it could be
sustained by abundant arguments. Public, processions
through the streets were very inconvenient, but the
bills, by absolutely prohibiting meetings in the
parks, was likely to prove an incentive to those
processions with which it did not deal. (Hear, hear.)
No doubt there was in these meetings a certain desire for
demonstration, which he believed to be perfectly in-
nocent, and devoid of any ulterior design to use force, and
he knew not where that demonstration could be more in-
conveniently made than in the crowded thoroughfares of
London. While he was not prepared to argue that it was
convenient for such meetings to be held in the parka, or
frequently in any piece, he was apprehensive of
a measure the effect of which would be to limit
open air meetings. Surely his hon. friend could
not think it wise to lay down the doctrine that no open
air meetings should be held in London, and if such meet-
ings were to be allowed in order to make them effective as
demonstrations they must, if this bill were passed, either
parade the thoroughfares or be held in some such place ps
Trafalgar square, which would be more inconvenient than
the holding of meetings in the parka. The subject
was one that required more preparation than it had had ;
at the present moment it stood in connection with events
with which it was desirable It should be ill.sociated, and it
waa a serious question whether legislation of this kind WAS re-
quired, and, if so, whether it ought not to be of • more
general character. He thought it worthy the considera-
tion of the government whether, as • matter of,
prudence, it would not have been wiser to have the

Of the law upon the subject inquired into by a select ass-
mittee of that house before attempting to bring forward's
bill upon it. (Hear, hear.) Why, if such a bill were
proper foe London, should it not be also ap-
plied to Edinburgh and Dublin, in which towns
it would be much easier to find places outside
of Rolyrood and Phoenix Park than it was to find places
outside of the parks in London! (Hear, hear.) It was
truly said that in most of the parks provided in pro-
vincial towns there were conditions inserted in the deeds
against their being used for political meetings ; but what,
he would ask, was the legal remedy for the infraction of
those conditions! (Hear, hear.) He for one was not
prepared to legislate on the subject at the present
moment ; he was not prepared to grant the govern-
ment new powers having any sort of connection
with the events of last spring. (Hear, hear.) It was for
the interests of all parties that those events should be
allowed to pass into oblivion, and he was surprised that
those unhappy palings set up around Hyde-park had been
allowed to remain as a monument of those events.
(Cheers.) Even if the house were fully prepared to legis-
late upon this subject they could not do so without the
risk of producing in the minds of the people of London a
sense of wrong and grievance. (Cries of "Oh, oh," and
cheers.) He was afraid that legislation on this subject at
the present moment would have the appearance of en
attempt, on the part of parliament and the executive
government, to obtain something like revenge—(cheers
and cries of " Oh, oh")—for what was something like a
defeat in the attempt to prevent the people from meeting
in the parks. (Renewed cries of " Oh, oh," and cheers.)
He should be sorry if he had said anything to give offence,
and was not making any charge against the promoters of
the bill ; but, speaking of the possible effect of the hill, he
believed it would produce a strong sense of injustice.
On the whole, he thought they would act wisely if they
adopted the amondnient of his hon. friend. (Cheers.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought
that the government which set its face against public
meetings would act a very unwise part. Public meetings
were in fact the safety-valves of a free country, and he
did not know who benefited by them more than those who
were responsible for the government. (Hear, hear.) There
could be no doubt that the metropolis was placed in
an unfavourable position in regard to holding meetings,
and that that was a difficulty which would yearly in-
crease. For his own part he could not ogres that the
suggestion of the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Cowper)
should be treated in the spirit of depreciation ; nor did ho
agree with the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Gladstone),
that public meetings must be necessarily or generally held
in the open air. A great many references had been made
to a meeting neld at Manchester half a century ago,
which was attended by very calamitous results. But
Manchester was not then a town of colossal size
—it was, he should think, at least three times as large
now. But whole did Manchesterat present hold i meetings ?
It had roosting, of the greatest weight, but it held them
in fees-trade halls and similar places. Buildings capable
of aeoornmodathog 10.000 personaand more could beerected
at no grievous expense for a populous and wealthy com-
munity ; and he must my that meetings under cover
were far better adapted to our civilisation and
to the circumstances of • capital like London.
Still there might be exceptional cases wherein great out-
door demonstrations might be required, and for them
there weft places, such as Primrose-bill or Hanipetasi
heath, Which cauld be reached with a facility thot could
not bay* been enjoyed five and twenty years ago. With

regard to the present bill, it was really • measure of social
and police arrangement • neither more nor less.
What the house had. to consider was whe-
ther it we, advisable that the parks of London, whit*
had been established and improved at great expense
' and with great difficulty, for the amusement and recrea-
tion of the otiromtusity, should be preserved for those pur-
poses. They must consider how much the happiness of a
rent portion of the inhabitants of the metropolis depended
upon these parks. It was, too, the humbler claaess—those
who had no country-homes to go to, and who never
went out of town—who moat Cheriallad and valued them.
He thought that they mightdismise all the remarks which,
though made with perfect good temper by the right hon.
gentleman opposite, were • little calculated to embitter
the question, and come at once to the consideration whe-
ther the parks of London ought not to be confined to the
purpose for which they were established, and not be made
the scenes of political excitement. That he thought was
the wish of the house and of the great majority of the
people. The hon. and learned gentleman had entirely
misconceived the spirit of the 4th clause, which in no
li degree vested in the police magistrates the power of deter-
mining what was sedition. That, however, was not the
moment to discuss that clause. The main question before
them was whether they would go into committee, and
endeavour to do what they wished to see accomplished.
It was • duty they owed to the people of the metropolis,
and it would be an act of cowardice if they did not
attempt to settle the question before the separation of
parliament.
Mr. BRIGHT said that no doubt the right hoa gentle-
man referred to the meeting at Manchester on the ltith of
August, in the year 1819, but that meeting would not
have had the calamitous termination it had but for the
improper interference of the magistrates and the yeomanry,
and there was scarcely • single individual in South Lanca-
shire who did not entertain the opinion that that meeting
was lawful, and held for a lawful purpose. The right hon.
gentleman said that meetiogs had since been held
in the Free Trade-hall. That was true, but it was
not till they assembled meetings in such numbers as
would fill the Free Trade-hall twenty times and upwards
that they were able to make much impression on the go-
vernment on the subject of reform, and had led to what he
trusted would be • happy termination of the arduous labours
of the present session. The right hon. gentleman said that
such meetings were safety valves in • free country, and
nothing could be more statesmanlike than that observa-
tion. What happened at those meetings which had been
referred to? Not one of them would have been the scene of
any disorder, or have made it necessary to bring in this
in:azure, if the people had not been interfered with.
During the last year meetings of extraordinary size had
been held in Edinburgh, Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham,
and London, all of which passed off quie'ly but the one
held in Hyde-park, and even them he undertook to say the
conduct of the people was such as to make it evident that
there was no danger of disturbance to the public peace, and
but for the illegal interference of the executive there would
have been no tumult. There was • certain solidity about
parliament as to render an occasional shove forward very
necessary. On the whole, he thought the conduct of the
people and the parliament had been most favourable. (Hear.)
He understood that meetings might be held at Primrose.
hill, but if they wanted to prevent tumult they had better
permit them in Hyde-park, where there was more room.
The danger, be believed, would be nil in both cases, but if
there was any difference it would be in favour of Hyde-
park. As well as being safer it would be more calculated
to give effect to popular demonstrations, because those
whose duty it would be to carry the popular will into
effect would have a better opportunity for seeing them.
Why, then, not Hyde-park? Some persons were
afraid, but after the experience of last year
their fears must vanish, and newspapers would
cease publishing sensation articles for the edification of
the old men and old women of the west end of London.
The meetings which they proposed to prevent were very
rare. How long was it since there was a great public de-
monstration in the park before? It could not be denied
that the subject for discussion at the last meeting was •
worthy one, bemuse it was the one which they had settled,
he hoped happily, in that house, after six months' discus-
sion. He hoped that, with a better representation in
parliament, it would be long before such another meeting
would be necessary, and lie asked, therefore, was
it necessary, was it statesmanlike, was it saga-
cious to introduce a measure at that moment
to close the parks whet they had so generously conceded
the wishes of the people. Besides, the bill would fail in
times of excitement. These 40s. fines when taken before
a magistrate might do for ordinary oases but in times of
excitement they would tend rather to stimuLate the public
feeling, and to make them go to Hyde-park to show their
resentment against the bill which was now asked for. It
would not be possible to prevent 100,000 persons from
entering the park, and when there it would be equally
impossible to prevent them making a demonstration. He
should not object to the parks being kept neat and
trim for the recreation of the public, but he held that
there was no enjoyment in assemblages more becoming to
• free people than to hold meetings for such purposes as
the minnows of their last meeting. He thought the home
would feel that unless there was an unanswerable neces-
sity it was not its duty to pas more stringent laws with
regard to public meetings. There was no country in
Europe in which public meetings were more frequent than
in England, or where they were held with more advantage
to the country. Let them trust the people in the future
as they had trusted them in the past, and trust to
the bill which had just passed to place all classes of
the people in friendly feeling towards each other.
The question before them was the one introduced by the
hon. and learned member for Southwark, who said they
were passing this measure at the very end of the session,
and who asked them not to deal with it at present, but
to leave it for the next session of parliament. It might be
neoessary that the government and police should have
more power in reference to some small matters in the
parks, but it could not be necessary to do anything in re-
ference to this bill Perhaps the people of London might
thick it well to meet in the park to thank
the parliament and the government for passing
the Reform Bill. He had not heard of anything
of the sort. He felt that the confidence reposed in the
people was always returned amply by their good conduct
towards the government and parliament, and he would
not shut up these parks, and prevent all expression of that
power which, during this session, some hon. members bad
not been unwilling to bow down to. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the bill, because he
objected to that house being ruled by mobs.
On a division the amendment was rejected by
133 to 88, and the house then went into committee
on the bill, but further progress was almost imme-
diately postponed.
Several other bills were advanced a stage, and
the house adjourned at a quarter to 3 o'clock.

Vann intelligence.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—JaLy 29.
_ _ APPEALS. _ _

(Present—The Lord Chaim@nor Lord Cranworth, and
Lord Colonisy.)

OAKZ. V.TURQUAND AND ANOTHEV-PEEK THE YOUNGER

r. TURQUAND AND ANOTHER.
The arguments in these appeals from orders of Vice-
Cbencellor Malmo occupied their lordships until the rising.
rR. Palmer, Q.C., concluded his argument on behalf
of the respondents ; and Mr. Mellish, Q.C., followed on
the same aide.

EQUITY COURTS.—Juvr 29.
(Before Vioe-Chanoellor Sir W. Page Wood.)
IN RE THE LONDON AND COLONIAL COMPANY.

This company being in the course of liquidation under
the supervision of the court, this was a motion on behalf
of sonic of the shareholders to remove from his office Mr.
Spong, who had been appointed co-liquidator with a Mr.
Jones, under the winding up. The grounds of the motion
were certain alleged improprieties of conduct on the part
of Mr. Spong, before the winding up order was made, at a
time when he was acting as general manager, consisting in
his having signed certain balance sheets which contained
very serious misrepresentations' which the petitioners
alleged to be wilful. Amongst these was the entry
to the profit, instead of to the loss side of the
account, the difference between the value of cer-
tain premises of the company at North Woolwich
which had been destroyed by tire, and the amount which
had been recovered for the insurance--amounting to up-
wards of 30,000 f. Another alleged piece of misconduct to
which it was alleged Mr. Spong was a party Cr.. the issue
of • delusive balance-sheet, followed by an actual loss;
which was attempted to be covered by the offer of deben-
ture' to the shareholders. A third transaction was the
issue of certain bills which, though appearing to be drawn
against consignments, were alleged to have been merely
drawn for accommodation. Part of the defence was that
during a portion of these transactions Mr. Spong was suf-
fering from illness.
Mr. Druce, Q.C., and Mr. Horace Davey supported the
petition.
Mr. G. M. Giffard, Q.C., Mr. C. Hall, and Mr. H. C.
Lopes (of the common law bar) appeared for the
liquidators.
The Vice-Chancellor, after stating the ease, observed
that he could not consider that this petition was sup-
ported by a majority of shareholders. There was not •
suggestion of any impropriety on the part of either one or
other of the liquidators since the winding-up order. His
Honour would not inquire whether Mr. Spong was or was
not justified in signing these balance-sheets, for the only
evidence that could bring home to him any personal com-
plicity in these representations came from his own state-
ments. The utmost his Honour thought that could be
made of the matter was that he had acquiesced in what
the other shareholders bad done. Why then should the
court be asked to do that which these parties were doing
for themselves, the complaint not coming from a. majority
of shareholders or of creditors? The shareholders and
creditors seemed to have thought that Mr. Spong, super-
intended by Mr. Jones, could act profitably as liquidator,
and his Honour should not disturb the arrangement. The
petition must be dismissed with costa.
OOURT OF BANKittrPTCY.--JuLY 29.
(Before Mr. Commissioner Goulburn.)
DUTIES OP TRUSTUIS UNDIB DIET*.

His Honour Ease judgment onanp— iiliOn which had
been made to him ander • trust-deed, to the effect that
the trustees under the deed might be required to audit