The Express.
London, England, 1867-10-23 00:00:00

FRANCE.

PARIS, Ocr. 23.

On Wednesday next the Emperor Napoleon will
hold a grand review of the Imperial Guard and the
First Army Corps, in honour of the Emperor of
Austria.

CALCUTTA AND CHINA MAILS.
DIARSEILLES, Ocr. W.
The Tanjore arrived at 6 a.m. to-day. The made
leave for London at 11.30 a.m.

The Nyanza, with the heavy portion of the above
mails, left Malta on the 21st at midnight. She
may be expected at Southampton on the 30th inst.

OUTWARD BOMBAY MAIL.
MALTA, Ocr. 22.
_ _

The Bangalore, from Marseilles on the 20th inst.,
arrived at 4 p.m. to-day, and leaves at 4 a.m. to-
morrow, for Alexandria.

AMERICA.

IN, Oct. M.

The Hamburg and American Company's steamer
Saxon's, from New York, passed the Needles at
12.20 p.m. to-day.

THE DOCTRINE OF CHURCH AND STATE IN
IRELAND.

The Siecle, remarking on the recent decision of
the Roman catholic prelates of Ireland against state aid,
says:

"The catholic church of Ireland deans to remain a
` free church in a free state,' according to the cele-
brated formula of Count Career. This is indeed
a remarkable resolution. The Irish clergy hold essentially
to the doctrine of separation of church and state. What
will the papacy think of such a proceeding? Article 5.5 of
paragraph vi. of the syllabus suinexed to the Encyclical of
December 8, ISCA, anathematises and condemns as con-
trary to catholic faith the doctrine that `the church
ought to be separated from the state, and the
state from the church.' This pernicious doctrine
was also condemned by the Holy See in 1862.
[Allocution Aseerbissimust, September 27,1862.1 This is
clear and precise. Is the Irish church then going to be
anathematised by the Pope? Not in the least. Any one
who came to that conclusion, after the reading of the text,
would only show his ignorance of the true spirit of the
church. No doubt the doctrine of the separation of church
and state is impious, pernicious, and heretical. But we
must distinguish. This doctrine, which is abominable in
countries where the church rules, where the civil govern-
ment is but the humble servant of the clergy, is excellent
in those nations where the civil power is not disposed to
play second fiddle. England is ono of these nations.
Pascal has said, ' Truth on this side, error beyond.' Here
is a case in point. The immutable church of Rome changes
its akin whenever it finds it is its interest to do so."

WEATHER REPORT.-(THIS DAY.)

WEDNESDAY. OCTOBER 23, II A./L

led Ettreme. Ses,
T W. lito W. IL tto
12 F. D. 9.
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Nairn ...... 29.83:50 W.S.W. 1 5 W. 8.19. bo 0.18 1
Aberdeen .. 29.91 57. N.E. 1 4 B.W. of - 1
Leith .9115,51 8. 3 6 9.W. C - -
Ardrodean... 29.81 541 E. 1 0 S. cr 0.18 1
Grecneastle..i'Ll.tit'bo' Z. 0 6 B.W. r 0.44 -
Velentte..- 29.87921 N. E. 3 8 W. r 0.4 e 3
lteehe's Pointrte2 57, 8.8. W. 5 6 8.8. W. o - 4
Lberp001....!30.06 53. 8.8.8. 4 4 8. o - 2
uolyheivl _129.06,65; 3.& W. 6 6 S.S. W. o 0.62 -
Penzance_ .. 30.03 57 8. i 5 5 B.W. mo - 4
Brent «..'30.0154' N.E. 3 5 S.W. fo - 6
Lorlent - 2
Rochefort.- 30.04'431 E. N. E. 3 2 N. N .W. b - 2
Plymouth
Weymouth 50.09 59, B.P. W.S.W. fc -
PortunOuth 130 10 58, S.& E. 31 4 B.W. re 0.04 2
Inculon 3O 13 56; 3.3.13. 3, 4 &W. o 0.01 -
lenuouth 030.17 55, 8. 2 3 W. f - 2
fkikrtwoogh 1341.10 51 B.W. 2, 3 B.W. be - 2
ld Shies 130.03 55 B.W. 2 2 &W. cm - 2
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REMARKS.
nib morllll-3 barometrical pressures are nearly uniform ; an
: .

This mornimi barometrical pm, _ are nearly uniform ;an
Increase has taken place In the north, and • decrease in the
south. The realon of maaJmuee pressure use to the eastward.
The temperatures are high In the south of Muria/id, but much
lower on the French cost. Rochefort is 14 demi colder than
Poosanee. Winds, wh ch were fresh from the W. last night, are
now moderate—variable at the northern and western stations,
and in the Channel have picked to the south-east, Fogs have
prevailed in the south, sod some rain has fallen.

The Gazette di Torino announces that the Italian
console in France have been "prohibited absolutely by the
French authorities from corresponding in cipher, by tele.
graph, with the Italian government."

The following note appears in the Gazette des
Strangers, Paris :—" Mile. Adeline Patti has no thought
of marrying, and she believes she violates no propriety in
thus giving the most formal contradiction to the falsest
ocejeckno. SU is betrothed only to art."

7YIE PA Ar•A NGLIC.IN :51.;

AN AMERICAN ACCOUNT OF THE DISCUSSIONS.
(From the Krao York Clorrek

The council of Lambeth has its business
sessions, which continued through Taeqlay, Wednesday,
Thursday, and Friday, until after d o'clock in the after-
noon. As they act with none but themselves prestut
(except a stenographic reporter), mid as their proceedings
were to be regarded as confidential until the session closed,
and as a motion was carried at the close that the steno-
graphic report should be written out and laid up in the
archives at Lambeth Palace, but not printed ( ! )—it is
simply impossible to give anything like an adequate or
full account of the very interesting and important dis-
cussions that have occupied the attention of the council.
The things done are to be published at once in full, toge-
ther with a synodical epistle or pastoral letter signed by
all the bishops present.
The two subjects that caused the greatest discussion
were—first, the statement of the standard of true catho-
licity, and secondly, the question of Natal. On the
former of these points, the programme of proposed business
mentioned only the First Four General Councils. On the
first day, the Bishop of Vermont moved to change the four
to six, and earnestly supported the motion.
The Bishop of Illinois moved to omit the numeral,
making the reference indefinite ; and the Bishop of Win-
chester then proposed to omit the phrase altogether,
which was carried. But this conclusion was felt to be too
unsatisfactory to stand. The discussions on that day were
so prolonged that they did not get through with the first
resolution ; and accordingly, on a subsequent day, when
passing upon the latter clause of it, the " undisputed
General Councils" wee all acknowledged ; an expression
precisely equivalent to the " first six."
The other matter of interest—the Natal question—will
have a fair chance. The Archbishop of Canterbury, know-
ing the unwillingness of many of the English bishops to
venture upon so entirely unprecedented a step as the call-
ing of such a council, and anxious to forestall as much as
possible their objections to so strange &novelty, had intended
to keep the subject of Dr. Colenso out entirely. That
subject his already so long worried the church of England,
and has to the eyes of many brought about such an inex-
tricable tangle between the church and the state, that not
a few of the English bishops would have absented them-
selves entirely if that subject were known to be on the
programme. The real cause of this sensitiveness is, not
any doctrinal sympathy with Colenso, tl:ough the few
who have that sympathy know well how to turn it to
their own advantage, but it is the delicate question of the
mutual relations of church and state, in regard to which
all men's minds are now at work, and there is a very
general anticipation that things cannot remain as they are
very long. The colonial church, however, regarded this as
the most important subject to be treated ; and a largo
proportion of them, as well as of the American bishops,
would certainly never have attended at all had they un-
derstood it was to be excluded. Not finding it in express
terms on the programme they first succeeded at the pre-
liminary meeting in making the programme open to
amendment, as well as to the introduction of new matter.
Then, on three or four of the intervening days, a number
of the colonial bishops met for consultation. But by con-
ferring with leading English bishops also, tbo difficulties
of the question were made so apparent that the Bishop of
Cape Town was persuaded to accept the appointment of
a committee to consider anew the whole difficulty from
the beginning. When the matter came up in this shape in
the council, he made a noble and unflinching speech, up-
holding as fearlessly as ever the righteous necessity of the
course that has been pursued in South Africa.
The Bishop of Vermont then moved as a substitute a
preamble and resolution which comes straight up to the
mark on the whole Colenso question, urging its adoption
as the true course. The Bishop of Salisbury supported
hint with a whole-hearted singleness and boldness, worthy
of all honour. Other bishops took the same ground, rind
not one word was said by anyone against the correctness of
ths position taken by the Bishop of Vermont. But the
Bishop of St. David's rose and stated that the archbishop
had pledged himself to him that the Colenso question
should not be acted on in the conference ; and be appealed
to " the honour" of the archbishop to say whether this
were not so.

The Archbishop said that it was so, and that to
act directly on the question of 1)r. Colento would be
the breach of an honourable understanding. It was
intended to convey this understanding in those
words of the invitation which said that the meeting
would of count, not be competent to make declara-
tions of doctrine ; but this phrase was unfortunately
too vague to convey the full strength of the " uudentand-
ing;" for the question in South Africa is not only one of
doctrine, but of fact, and canon, and civil law. After what

had been said by the archbishop, however, it was seen that
to push the matter against the engagements of the distin-
guished prelate who issued the invitations, was not advi-
sable, and the matter dropped, the Bishop of Vermont
making a closing speech on the sense of duty which had
compelled him to make his motion. But the thing would
not rest. On the Last day, the Bishop of St. Andrew's
earnestly appealed to the Bishop of St. David's to waive
his " understanding" with the archbishop, in order to in-
troduce a declaration on the fact of the present status of
Dr. Colenso, drawn up by the Bishop of Oxford, to be in-
troduced and acted on. But the Bishop of St. David's per.
siated in maintaining his ground. It WAS then produced as
a paper signed "by the bishops assembled at Lambeth."
the words " in Conference" being omitted ; and it was at
once signed by all the American and Colonial Bishops, and,
we believe, by all or nearly all the rest, the act being done
in the same room and during the continuance of the
session.

Several of the more important matters have been re-
ferred to committees ; and a future meeting of the council,
as contemplated in the concluding resolution of the pro-
gramme (which resolution wascordlally iulopted), is clearly
in the minds and hearts of all. As to the debates, farther
than the meagre details we have given, we can say little,
except that the Bishops of Oxford. London, St. David's,
Cape Town, and others, took prominent and influential
part in the discussions; and the Bishop of New Zealand
in particular made a speech towards the close, which, for
outspoken boldness, earnestness, and the powerful etpres-
Mon of deep convictions as to the crisis now drawing near
the church of England, formed a striking and significant
close of a meeting which is the opening of a new era in the
history of the communion of the church of England. At
the end the Gloria in carte:a was surg, the assistant
Bishop of Indiana leading in the chant that is so familiar
to us all in the church of America.

The Sikele strongly recommends the working
chimes to form co-operative baking societies, a consider-
able number of which have been established recently, with
a view to provide whatever remedy may by this means be
possible for the high price of bread. The Etcndard gives
a list of more than thirty of them.

The through communication by railway between
Calcutta and Eombay, aceonling to a Kurrachee paper,
was to be opened on the 10th inst. The journey will oc-
cupy five days.
The latest measurements of the Mont Cenis tun-
nel are as follows : —Excavation for the September month.
—Extent north. 69'18 metres ; extent south, 59.55 metres ;
total, 128'73 metres. Total extent to October I:—North.
wards, 2,%9'35 mattes ; southwards, 4,968110 metres ;
total, 7,938'25 metres. Entire length of tunnel, 12,2'20.00
metres ; unfinished, 4,687'75 metres—which by the engi-
neer's account, will occupy some :➢0 months. Fell's Ame-
rican line over the pass, though nearly completed, will not
be in full operation until thecorning year, each storm more
or less damaging it to a certain extent.

THE ARCHBISHOP OF DUBLIN ON THE IRISH
CHURCH.—The Archbishop of Dublin pre ,cbod his visita-
tion sermon at St. Patrick's Cathedral on Tuesday, and in
the course of it, speaking of the present position and pro-
aof the church of Ireland, he remarked, " The
church as established in this country is menaced by a con-
centration of heterogeneous forces. We see in combination
against us our inveterate enemy the church of Rome ; that
clam of nonconformists who have pledged themselves to
attempt the overthrow of the united church ; those specu-
lative politicians, of whatever party, who, refusing to sea
that the true source of " the Irish dilllculty " is the im-
placable hatred of English dominion, imagine that they
can purchase a short-lived truce by violating the solemn
pledge given in the Ant of Union that the Church of Ire-
land should be upheld by all the might of the empire. For
myself, I em not se apprehensive as some persons seem to
be as to the result of the attack with which we are
threatened. I am sanguine that the time is approaching
when, our just and prescriptive rights being secured, the
church may be enabled to undertake the duty of rectifying
any inequalities and repairing any defects in her working
system which time and circumstance may have given rise
to. But, however this may be, it is manifestly the duty
of the clergy, at the present juncture, to face the danger,
and to be prepared "for either fortune."

THE 13L003ISBURY 311:1ZDEI:

FURTIIi:It. EXAMINATION OF GI:OVES AT 1)0W.
STREET.-(THIS DAY.)

r! is being the day fixed fur the further exaali-
nation of Groves on the charge of shooting the band-man
JI Daniell, he was again brought up to the court in the
prkon van at an early hour. A considerable crowd
haul assembled in the street, but there was no
exhibition of feeling oxcept on the part of one frantic in-
dividual in a tattered coat and beard almost as ragged,
who on hearing that the van wu coining, rushed off to
inert it, turned round and followed it to the door of the
court, where be arrived panting rind breathless, al lit•t.ring
out, " I thried, boded, I thried, but I could not get near
enetigh, bedad."
For some time before the hour appointed (1 ede10u....) the
approaches to the court were crowded with peraous :anions
to be present at the examination ; so that the pau,ages
were blocked to the obstruction of access even for the
officials.

A little before 1 that small portion of the would-be
spectators to whom the miserably limited space of the thud
could give uncomfortable standing-room were adiaitted,
and were allowed a tow minutes to congratulate thcm-
selves upon the commodiousness, which, according to etr-
tain recent publications, distinguishes this police•court
from others in the metropolis, and to wonder what the
others mug be like.

As on the former occasions the proaecut ion was con-
ducted by Mr. Poland, instructed by the Treasury solicitor,
and the defence by Mr. Warner Sleigh, instructed by
Messrs. Lewis and Lewis.

Upon Groves being placed at the bar, at about a quarter
past 1, Mr. Warner Sleigh asked that he might be allowed
to sit down during the examination, which wo■ at outs
sanctioned by the court. Groves appeared much altered,
being thinner and paler than before, and having a care-
worn, anxious look which he had not exhibited hitherto.
He was alsomuch more nervous and tremulous than on the
former occasions.

Mr. Poland said that since the last examination a very
full inquiry had been made into the antecedents of the
woman Jammu, who had also been examined at the in-
quest yesterday. Front the result of the inquiries and
examination, not on account merely of character, but from
knowledge of facts, those who instructed him felt that
they could not call on the magistrate to commit the pri-
soner for trial on the charge of murder.
Mr. Vaughan, concurring in the courre taken by the
learned counsel, then discharged the prisoner from the
charge of the wilful murder of Edward McDonnell, and
the charge of assaulting John 'Weer was proceedt d a ith.
The prisoner pleaded not guilty, and reserved '.ass de-
fence.

Mr. Vaughan fixed the bail at two sureties of 1001. each,
and the prisoner's own reccgnizances at 2001.

ROYAL MAIL STEAM PACKET COMPANY.
(THIS DAY.)

The ordinary general meeting of the shareholders
in this company was held at the London Tavern this day:
Captain MANGLES in the chair.
The report of the directors, which was taken as read,
stated "the result of the working of the service far the
half year ended the 30th June but, the accounts for which
period are now submitted to the shareholders, has Len
very considerably affected by the sickuess in the West
Indies, to which the directors alluded in their Led report.
The ahareholders were then informed of the alterations
which had been made in the mole of carrying on the ser-
vice, with a view to keep the company's vessels free from
the induence of the epidemic, and it was stated at the
same time that the measures in question and the cootie-
g cncies of quarantine entailed extra expense. The uriel
course of the service was, however, resumed some months
ego, and has since been adhered to except on the J. 1111.1144
sad Colon route, in which, as a sanatory precaution,
it became necessary to make an alteration. The
credit aide of the ' working account,' when compared
with that of the first half of the year 1864, shires • very
Urge falling off in the receipts, the greater part of which
occurs in passage-money. The unsettled ceadit.on of
Mexico. the effect upon Emil of the continuance of the
war with Paraguay, a diminution in the shipments of spftie,
end the generally depressed state of trade are, no doubt,
partly the causes of this falling off in the receipts ; but
the decrease is chiefly owing to the absorption of traffic by
other lines of steam communication, of which the French
West India mail service—highly subsidised soil carried
on under a contract for a long term of yearn—is the most
serious in its effect upon this company'a earniugs.
In order to meet the views of her Majesty'. overm:cnt
with regard to public representations from the inanufac•
Luring districts, the directors have agreed that tLe West
India packets shall call at Plymouth on their lioix,e,vard
mulatge to Southampton to land the mails, for which the
company will receive a still sufficient to cover the exp,uses
of the extra service. The directors recommend a dis-
tribution of :if, per share (free of income tax), including
profit from the insurance account, payable by warrants to
be issued on the evening of the 26th inst."
The CHAIRMAN, in moving the adoption of the report,
said, under ordinary circumstances the directors would
have had great pain in meeting the shareholders with such
:I report as they had to present, but as the t.afavourable
nature of the report was owing to a providential visi-
tation he trusted that the sharenoldere would not
consider that the directors had been unmindful of
the interests of the shareholders. A great expense
lied been incurred in order to prevent the spread
of yellow fever on board the ships. It had been found
necesrary to abandon St. Thomas's, and to fix upon St.
Peter's, an island about 24 miles distant, as the place of
Caill for tbeirships. This had caueedconsiderable expense and
the detention of their ships in quarantine when they arrived
in England had been another considerable enure of ex-
peuee. It had also been found necessary to put en another
slip, which had of course also increased their expenditure.
The rise in the price of provisions Junius* told ceuenlerahly
against them. The report alluded to the decrease in the
receipts owing to the absorption of traffic by the French
West India mail service. Ile did not think that would
continue long, (because the ships of this con Tally were
better, and were better navigated, but the company had to
meet in competition a company which was subsidised to
two or three times, the annelid that this company was.
The report referred to the line of steam commuuication
established by the Panama, New Zealand, nut Austra-
lian Mail Company, forming, in connexiou with
this company's line, the Panama route to
New Zealand and Australia. That service had been per-
formed with great success, and this company kali received
20,0001. for freights for that service, which ea.: some com-
pensation for the unfair competition they hail to contend
with from the French company.
Admiral Wines seconded the motion.

After a short discussion, iu the course of which the
Chairman stated that the cu.iipany had lent looney to the
Panama Company at 6 per cent. on security of their ships,
and they took care that the -hips were insured,
The report was agreed to, and a vote of thanla to the
cli.tirut..n and directors concluded the proceedings.