The Express.
London, England, 1851-07-09 00:00:00

HOUSE OF LORI/S.—TUESDAY, JILT E.
The Lose Cu ancaLeos emit his seat at ho &desk.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
WllllOOl. GIYOPOWDZII STOW RNMOVAL BUZ.—
By the Nal of HAILHOWIIIf, from landowners In Len.
whirs, naiad this bill.
Couery Covers.--By Lard BROUGHAM, Bum the
Society kr the Protestlea of Tyree, is favour of the unre-
els. of Wishner", Yeradidlett to seedy sourts. Ake from
solicits" at Tfirdsedier,and a plena is Dernekire, is fa-
ir" dike szteadon of impitaltio jet/Wien= to county
coerce in Which they meted that a person mild not go into
Chessoil with a side involvbsg bin than LOOM. but his ,
noble sad Isesseed Mend behind him (Lad Lyndhurst),
said that after what he boil resontly seen, he would not go
into Chancery in a matter hayfields; less than 10,0001.
ATTORNIES
CANTAM D SOLICI
M TORS
BILL ' REGULATION
AENDENT
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE moved the seeped
reading of this bill. In asking that the sme privileges be
graatiod to attornies educated at the Queen's colleges is Ire-
lead, as they had when educated in English colst
ar
noble marquis took occasion to coogratulate the
the success of the Irish colleges.
Lord MONTEAI,LE 'spewed the same feeling, and
condemned the revolutions of the synod of Thurles which
.had been se much disapproved of that they had not yet been
forwarded to Rome.
The bill was then read a second time.
EXPENSES OF PROSECUTIONS BILL.
On the motion of Lord CSANWORTU, this bill was read a
third time and peened.
APPREN'T'ICES TO SEA SERVICE (IRELAND)
(No. 2) BILL
This bill was read • third time and passed.
LODGING HOUSE BILL
The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved the second read-
ing of this bill. Their lordships had passed a bill pro-
viding accommodation for the migratory poor population,
and the object of this bill was to provide for innate wants
in the stationary population. Their lordships had but little
idea of the filth, wretchedness, and disease which existed
among the lower celeits in this metropolis, and in various
parts of the country. Ile would direct their attention to a
report presented to the Statistical Society in 1812, at the
lastance of his noble friend the Earl of Ilarrowby, being the
Truitt of an inspection of the parish of St. George's,
Hanover-square, and from whish it appeared that the fa-
milies inspected were 1,485, and the total number of rooms
were 2,174. There were 929 of those families having but
one room for the whole family; 418 hail but two rooms;
91 had three rooms; 17 had four morns • only 1 had seven
MOMS ; and only 1 had eight moots. lf such was the state
of things in St. George's, Hanover-square, what must it be
in Shoreiliteh, St, Luke's, anti St. Gilm's ? (Hear, hear.)
But there was nothing said in this return about the many
butanes-a, of which he had personal experience, in which
two, ur three, or four families might be found in one room.
It said nothing of the contamination which all this pro-
duced—the unhealthy atmosphere, the want of water, and
everything necessary for the health, comfort, and decency
of the inhabitants. (Hear, hear.) But there were also pen-
. tilcotial spits in some of the most beautiful districts of
England. He would nut weary their lordships by going
• very fully into details, but would select out, or two in-
stances. And first he would take the village of Mileham,
in Norfolk, with reference to which an inspector sent by
. the Bourel of Health said It contains 532 inhabitants ;
during the prevalence of the late epidemic regularly about
one-filth of the inhabitants were attacked, and the deaths
in one month were 3.8 per cent. of the whole population.
Un examining the patients whose lives had been spared, I
found them, with scarcely an reception, in a state of great
physical prostration. Four or live years previously the vil-
lage woo afflicted with typhus, and the same houses were
recently attacked, and only about five weeks before my in-
squiry influenea was an prevalent as to seize almost univer-
sall man and beast." But that was nothing with a town
in iorfolk, called Nonlelph, of which the otheial inspector
said There is no kind of drainage in the place,
the houses are small, unventilated, dark, damp, and dilapi-
dated. The floors are of brick, uneven, broken, and full
of cavities; the roofs abounding with holes. The rooms
'are inconvenient, cerafurtless, and filthy in the extreme..
-Pigsties and privies in the vilest condition are situated'
within a few feet of bed places, in which I saw many pa-
tients in cholera lying enveloped in the disgusting easels
from the surroundiog ahominatione. 'there were 52 men
or ehol,r4 among a population of 150." Wes not thots
estraordinary state of things ? Why if such had beim the
raw ill this metropolis there would have hcen 700,000
liavang at some length entered into further statistical details
the wade lord went on to say, that it was to provide a
remedy for the state of thing, to which he had been ailed-
fog, that ho ventured to introduce this bill, which was
founded on ii principle which their lordships had al-
ready recognised, reganling the baths and wash-houses,
which had been pnelective of such beneficial effects.
(Hear, hear.) 'the bill was merely permissive, and not
compulsory. The local authorities+ might adopt its provi-
sion, if they thought fit. The bill was also founded on
another principle, and one too of considerable importance.
Institutions such as he programl should he reveled were
allege thee remunerative. 'lhey would pay both the prin-
cipal and interest of the money expended. Ile might give
one illustration. 'foie metropolitan emaciation (or improv-
ing the dwellings of the labouring chimes, of which he had
the honour to be chairman, had formed some years ago,
and hail pmeeeded on the assumption that it was of no use
to improve the domiciliary condition of the poor unless it
appeared that they would be remunerative—unless the refl•
vie were brought to depend en their own exertions. 1 her
bail mistrusted a greet variety of houses. They hail trica
almost every devcription of dwellings, from the single house
up to the vast building where forty or fifty families
could he acconinuelated, and in no instance had they laded
in getting the income to cover the outlay. 'they had es-
pended on the building, improvement, and adaptation of
dwellings 23,000/., and the net return from thi., deducting
all incidental expenses, averaged sit per cent., being on the
new buildings five and a half per cent., and on the old once
twelve percent. The charges in the society's holgieg-husses
at Westminster were below those which were made at the
must wretched of those abodes where many of the poor
dept together in one room, In the [MK` of houses cons
atrisenal for families, three and sometimes four rooms, with
every accommodation fur decency and comfort, with a con-
stant supply of good water, the charge was nut enure than
was male for a single room in the most dis-
gusting and filthy neighbourhoods. It had been said
that the people would not be able to pay the rents of ,
them improved ludging-houses. Ile thought he could
Oho., that they would be able to pay even an ineriimed
rent. were such iseiveiary, in the case of the improved
dwelling,. A working man lost, upon an average, in these
crowded and unhealthy localities, to days in the year by
infirmities, and taking the wage at Is. bd. a day, here wan
ells. which might he saved by the comforts of a good
dwellin,,••. Parties had came and assured him that
their health wra greatly improved since they went
to the new lodging-houses, and the result generally,
in this nopect, Ira. of the most gratifying charac-
ter. They could not have a leiter proof of that result than
in the fact that when the cholera had been raging in
Churchtane, and had been carrying off its tens and
twenties rim day, nut a single CAW of cholera or sickness
hail occurred in these new lodging-houses, which
were as near Church-lane as he (the Earl of Shaftesbury)
was then to the wooleack. The same statement held good
reverting all the improved lodging-houses. There was
every guard provided in the bill against abuse. The opera-
nen of the act was to be limited in the brat instance to
parishes of not less than 10,000 permits. The parish au-
thorities. on the requisition of any ten ratepayers, were to
call a meeting to consider whether the act should be
adopted. When the act was adopted, the vestry or town
council were to appoint camrsiseimur, to carry out its pro-
villioue. No perom neeiving paroehial relief was to he re-
ceived as tenants of these lodging-henna, in order that no
eleemosynary character might attach to them. It was de-
@indite to guard against the lodging-houses;oming into use
too suddenly, for in all such matters the greatest cau-
tion was desirable. They had, however, the guarantee
that if in the first one or two instances they did
nut pay, they would not be carried further. Ilia lordship
concluded by moving the second reading of the bill.
The Marquis of NOISMANIST and Lonl KINNAIRD ex-
pressul their satisfaction that this bill had been brought
before the house by Lord Shaftesbury.
The Earl of 11:11t1tOWBV am:Rested that when bills
we're brought in for the construction of new and magnificent
streets, Can should be taken that provisions were in-
serted in them for the erection of bodging-houses fur the
populetion displaced by the new streets.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE was not desirous to say
anything in support of the bill, which spoke for itself. He
approved its limited application in the Hist instance, and he
Isal an doubt that the example set by the large towns would
ultimately lead to the general adoption of the system. He
thought, too, that Lord Itarrosiby'e suggestion was meet
velosible, and their lordships would do well to bear it in
mind when bills fur constructing large streets came before
their notice.
After a few words from the Earl of Saarresso air, the
motion was agreed to.
Their lordships adjourned shortly before seven o'clock.

whit& Mat oeuntry was gsvorned,—. the
on to say that ho believed the two
=sea Imola have doss much to restore the
eassitey bad the government come forward with the bills
whisk dew peoniped when they took office, had they done,
what he Wined Lord Bashosough would have done had
he lived and ramairwl b dim They hail abandoned their
pledges so tar as attempts to realise them were concerned.
But the people were gone, the people were going. He
asked them in the name of constitutional right, in the name
of civilisation, in the name of a merciful God, were they
prepared to stimulate a system which he again said had de
populated the country ?
Mr. HANCHELL said the honourable and learned gen-
tlemen had alleged that the effect of the clause was
to enable landlords in Ireland to clear their estates.
Now, although a tenant from year to year held the
land only at the will of the landlosd, he was entitled to
a notice, and that arrangement of the law was not
sought to be disturbed by this bill. It had nothing at all
to do with the question of title or with tenants,
who were prepared to abide by their contracts. The
clause only provided that in case a tenant from year to year
should owe • year's rent, and would not pay it, the land-
lord should be at liberty to resort to a proceeding to com-
pel the tenant to pay that rent. (Hear.) In conlexgqneace
of the present state of the law the landlord wee
compelled to serve his tenants with notices half-yearly,
not for the purpose of getting rid of the tenants, but to
enable the landlord to recover the rent. Yosemite* waa
the coddition on which the rent was to be paid, bat if
gentlemen said that the tenant was to bold possession and
pay no rent, then he hail no more to say.
Mr. WHITESIDE said, unquestionably this bill was
open to the objections taken by the hon. and learned mem-
ber for Dundalk. It was partial, patch-work legislation.
There was now a court in Ireland which was rapidly trans-
ferring the land to new proprietors, and therefore he con-
sidered the present time favourable for the introduction of
a comprehensive measure to amend the law of landlord and
tenant in Ireland. Although he objected to this clause
being in this bill, yet he did not disapprove of the clause of
itself, and he could not therefore vote against it.
Mr. REYNOLDS contended that this was a landlord's
clause, the landlord having already the same power the
trader had ofrreperting to the Civil Bills Court, awl the power
submitted - • --, gentleman

generOus and
friendly government should take a step which that power
might cousider a hostile one.
CHANCERY REFORM.
Viscount PALMERSTON, at the bar, then presented to
the he WNI her Majesty's gracious answer to the address of
the limae wed on the 28th of June, by Mr. J. Stuart,
praying bar Majesty to add two lay members to the Chan-
cery Cormaission. He had to inform the how that her
Majesty bad given directions accordingly.
SPIRITUAL DESTITUTION.
Viscount PALMERSTON also presented to the house
her Majesty's gracious reply to the address moved by the
Marquis of Blandford, praying " that she will be graciously
pleased to take into her consideration the state of spiritual
destitution existing throughout England and Wales ; with
a view that her Majesty may be pleased to direct the adop-
tion of such measures as she may deem expedient, fur
affording more efficient relief to the spiritual wants of the
people, and for an extension of the parochial system corre-
sponding to the growth of a rapidly increasing population
by the help which may be drawn from the resources of the
established church itself." Her Majesty had commanded
him (Viscount Palmerston) to inform the house that the
attention of her government had previously been directed
to the best means of rendering the resources of the estab-
lished church available for affording the most efficient
means of spiritual instruction to the people of this country,
and that they might be assured of her Majesty's cordial
concurrence in the adoption of a well-considered measure
for promoting this important object.
ATIOItNEI S' CERTIFICATE DUTY.
Lord R. GROSVENOR, after presenting the petitions
noticed above, moved fur leave to introduce a bill the NM
as that of last year, which he said had gone through all its
stages but two, for the purpose of repealing the atternen
solicitors, and proctors' annual certificate duty. Last year,he
had stated at some length the origin, nature, and °per:Watt
of this tax. He had shown to the house that it had every
vice in principle which a tax could possibly have, and that
its operation was in consequence partial and oppressive.
And he had great reason to believe that the house had been
satisfied with his arguments. It would be most unwise
and impolitic in the Chancellor of the Exchequer to oppose
this motion, as the house would no doubt adhere to its
former judgment. But so little did he desire to em-
barrass his • hon. friend in - way, that if he

go; was received with _..... and derisivC peals of laughter,
the assemblage regarding the reading of the oath as a very
capital joke. (Laughter.) Now, on that ho founded one
of his arguments, because by secret voting the suborner was
entirely at the mercy of the suborned. (Hear,
'leer.) By the operation of the ballot there would be
east into the shade four distinct events. First, whether the
elector purchased would vote for the purchaser ; second,
whether he would vote for the opponent of his purchaser;
third, whether the elector purchased by an opponent may
' not split between both • and fourth, whether he might not
decline to vote at all. ([tear, hear.) Ile (Mr. Berkeley)
had by him the opinions of several professional gentlemen
accustomed to conduct elections, and their testimony dis-
tinctly proved that by the adoption of the ballot intimida•
thin would be effectually checked in large constituencies,
though doubtless in small ones it might still exist. Intimi-
dation once destroyed, he (Mr. Berkeley) would be con-
tented to let bribery take its chance, knowing that the
system of secret voting would soon rectify the abuse.
((fear, hear.) By intimidation he meant the threats of ex-
clusive dealing, withdrawal of custom, ejectment of tenants,
and all that state of affairs; and such intimidation was to
be (mind coupled with bribery iu the cases of the
Falkirk Burghs and Bath elections. Ile (Mr. Berkeley)
observed that his noble friend Lord Duncan (as was under-
stood) presented a numerously signed petition that evening
on the question from Bath. The house would remember
that an hon. friend of his the member for Birmingham in-
formed them that at the last Birmingham election, upwards
of 1,000 electors abstained front voting through intimida-
tion ; now he was in a position to corroborate that assertion
in the case of Bath. Ile wrote to a friend in that city, who
took part in the late election, requesting an analysis of the
votes. The account he received was this—" No bcerhouses
were open ; the few cases of direct intimidation were the
exception, not the rule. On the register there were 3,130
electors' of whom 2,1.50 only went to the poll. There were
polled for Scobell, 1,110; and fur his opponent, 1,010.
There were unpolled 879. of whom' ,10 had died or quitted
the city; 200 (conservatives) were out of town; 00 ra-
dicals refused to vote, and 30 Roman eathulies
also declined to vote, leaving to be accounted for
449, who would have voted fur Scobell, but that their
doing so would be their ruin. (Hear, hear.) They
dared not do so ; or, if ' did, they might as well

greatest novelty, being , person
tered the house. (Laughter.) lie had declined to
canvass the three thousand electors of Bath, consi-
dering the office of canvassing not merely unnecessary
but degrading. (Hear, hear.) He took the more open
course of meeting the electors in their several wards, and
having had the fullest opportunity of judging, both in his
own person and from the statements of others, he could de-
chary that great intimidation was used at the recent election
in the city which he had the honour to represent, and he
was convinced that the ballot was the only means of pre-
venting the evil. (Hear, hear.) It was no new thing to
him to hear electors declare in • whisper that they could
not vote as they wished to do; and considering what had
come to his knowledge within the last three weeks, he could
not, as an honest man and a faithful representative. ihstain
from declaring, on the first occasion on which he had ma
opportunity of addressing the house, his conviction
of the justice, the expediency, and the necessity
of sheltering men in the exercise of a right which
the constitution gave them. (Hear, hear.) It was
trifling with the population of the country to place in its
hands the right of electing representatives and not to give
them the means of using that right independently. (Hear,
hear.) The petition to which he had alluded drew atten-
tion to the hardship under which his constitutiency, in com-
mon with others, now laboured, and stated that many of
the electors had been intimidated from giving their votes
by threats of ruin to their families. Ile (Capt. Scobell)
would add his voice to that of other hon. members who
hail urged the government to concede the necessary reforms
At once, and not to withhold them until they were compelled
to yield. lie hoped the government would take care to make
their reform bill of next year a generous one; rememliering
in the first place that if they made cone salons little by little
they would not be thanked for them, and in the next, that
as soon as the people had obtained the little, they would
strive to get more. (Loud cries of "Divide.")
Mr. S. CRAWk*OILD rose to speak, but, being met with
reiterated calls for a division, he resumed his seat.
The house then divided.
For the motion
Against it 6O-37
The announcement elicited loud cheers.
IRISH POOlt.
Mr. SCULLY moved; " That, in order to lighten the
rate in Ireland, it is -‘.

during-the famine period. (Hear, hear.) In one 'thing,
however, he (NIT. Laboueliere) with all other parties agreed.
This was in the sympathy which universally prevailed for
the unfortunate sufferers, and iu the desire that every means
should be adopted to ameliorate their sad condition. Al.
though he hail, while proposing measures of relief in 1846,
stated that he felt doubtful of their propriety, still when he
' considered that it was necessary to interfere to prevent a
frightful loss of life, all objections had vanished from his
mind.

Sir D. NORREYS distrusted the object with which the
motion was made, and could not diwonnect the hon. mem-
ber (Mr. Scully) front several of the boards of guardians in
Ireland, whom he represented.
Mr. SCULLY assured the house that in the motion be
had submitted to the house he had no desire to interfere
with the free labour market.
The house divided:

For the motion 42
Against
Mr. FRENVEN moved for a copy of a letter, dated the
29th of May, Mil, addressed to the Lonls Con tttt i‘sioncn
of her Majesty's Treasury by Dr. D. H. Reid, and oh., of
the protest accompanying it, in reference to proceedings
connected with the new Houses of Parliament.
The motion was agreed to.
Mr. BANKES postponed his motion in reference to the
case of witnesses in the St. Albans election who had with-
drawn from these kingdoms, until Thursday neat.
Colonel THOXIPSON, in the absence of Lord Dudley
Stuart, moved for a return of all claims for compensation
made under the act 12 & 13 Vic., c. 101, s. 17 ; also of
all claims granted under the said act • also of stay coinpen-
mations not made or suspended, or only partially paid, on
account of the claimants being appointed to any public
office or employment ; the names and occupations of the
several claimants to be also stated.

et distress. He Sagnitted to the right lion. b
the Attorney-General that this clause should be expunged.
He was told this bill cortained some valuable clauses: be
believed it did, but he should be prepared to do what be
could to prevent the passing of the bill, unless this einem
were expunged.
Mr. Will FEMIDE said he opposed this clause before be-
cause he thought it misapplied in the bill.
Mr. MOORE said he should oppose the clause unless the
amendment of the hon. member for Dundalk were agreed to.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL said he thought the tendency of
the legislation of that house ought to be to induce the land-
leeds to give leases to their tenants. He did not expect that
it would ever be his fortune to address the house again,
and he regretted to have to remind them of broken promises
and pledges unfulfilled.
Mr. ROEBUCK said he wanted to know what theywere
about. As far as he understood it, when a tenant held
under a lease, a lan lion' in Ireland had the power of eject-
ment, and it was proposed that in case of tenant from year
to year, it the tenant was a year in arrear of his rent, the
landlord should have the same summary process. It was a
question whether an arrear of rent of one year should not
be equivalent to a six months' notice. Now he could very
well understand that putting out a man who was in arrear
seas the highest possible injustice, but if a man were in
arrear a whole year's rent he did not see, fur the honest
and fair protection of the man, that anything more was re-
quired. lie entreated the ght honourable gentleman
the Attorney-General to deal with this matter in a
systematic manner. If they were to deal with procedure,
let them have procedure only ; and when they were deal-
ing with the substance of the law, let them have the sub-
stance of the law only.
Mr. ROCHE said it was impossible to discuss this ques-
tion properly without going into the general state of Ire-
land. One of the greatest evils of that country no doubt
was the unsatisfactory state of the law of landlord arid
tenant. But this was an attempt to legislate so as to in-
crease the power of the landlords; and he contended that it
was unfair to introduce a clause having such an effect in
sash a bill. The decrease in the population of Ireland was
in a great measure owing to evictions ; the proof of which
Was in the fact that it was in the rural iliatricts that the de-

right hon. _ any
would only give him to understand that, next year,
if the income tax were grouted, and no unfore-
seen circumstances arose to make it impossible,
be would repeal this duty, he (Lord It. Grosvenor) would
be contented simply to lay the bill on the table, or even nut
to do so much. If he could not have that assurance from
the right. hon. gentleman it would be his duty to make the
motion of which he bad given notice.
Thc motiou being seconded,
The CHANCELLOIt of the EXCHEQUER said it was
his painful duty to resist the motion. It would be far more
agreeable to him if he could remit all the taxes, if he could
say yes to all the numerous deputations who came to Down-
ing-street asking for money in one shape or other. (Laugh-
ter.) But, unfortunately, it was his duty to resist those
applications which he did not think were founded on sound
principles, or for the good of the public credit. He had
already carried through the house, to its last stage, the
financial proposal for the year. Some had reproached him
for not allowing a sufficient margin iii the course of the
present year; and the bun. member for Bucks had brought
forward a motion declaring that no reduction whatever of
taxes ought to take place, and that no further revenue should
he sacrificed. He could not suppose that the gentlemen
who supported that motion could possibly agree to the
motion of his noble friend. Ile hail felt it his duty to
stand by the proposal he had made to the house; it would
have been exceedingly unfortunate had he withdrawn from
the country the boon piomised in the early part of the ses-
sion; he was therefore bound to resist this motion. He
would put it to hon. gentlemen on his own side of the house,
whether, in their opinion, this was the first tax of which
they should claim the repeal. Ile had reserved but a very
moderate surplus after
.repealim; the window duty, about
300,0001.; and, at present, they knew not what claims
might be made upon them for the cost of the Kaffir war.
Would it, then, be wise in him to promise, or in the house,
to pledge itself, to sacrifice 120,0001. a-year in this tax,
looking at the circumstances which might occur? If, in the
course of next year, there should be a considerable surplus,
and the house was prepared to maintain the income-tux as
it stood, then he would take into consideration whit other
taxes should be reduced or modified. Until they knew what
would be the • income and expenditure for next

„ if they
retire from business. Yet this was the systeniof election
that was sought to be perpetuated because of its working
so well. (hear, hear.) Above all, he asked for the bal-
lot as being the greatest boon that could be bestowed
on the agricultural constituencies, as at the present mo-
ment the right of the tenant farmer to vote was a mere
nullity. (Hear, hear.) For better would it be if on the
great estates the steward of the lord of the manor were to
send in a list of the votes to the sheriff with the name of
the favoured candidate attached—(hoar, hear)—because it
would save the tenant farmers the trouble of riding to the
market town to tell an unblushing falsehood. (Bear,
hear.) Ile (Mr. Berkeley) professed himself interested fur
the tenant farmers of England, nod though he felt it to
be his duty to object to their being earolledeitherassoldiers
or constables—not being sufficiently drilled far either ser-
vice—yet, he should say, a better drilled set of electors
there could not be found in Europe. (” Hear, hear," and
laughter.) In his opinion the evidence that came before
the committee of that house in 183.3 should form the vade
mecum of hon. members ; and he was then prepared to
say that the state of slavery and tyranny which was proved
to exist in 183.3 continued to flourish as vigorously in the
present year. As a sample, he would quote the occurrences
at a late election fur South Nottinghamshire, as they ap-
peared in the Tunes. He quoted front that paper because
it had a bias against him on the present subject. It went
on to speak of the result of the election, and said, " the
result astonishes everybody that, in the midst of the most
aristocratic county of England, with the landlords banded
together in support of their nominee, the scion of
a noble house, with ample possessions, should
he defeated by a plain country gentleman, a
retired solicitor, with scarcely an acre ; it appears truly
marvellous, and can only be accounted for by the fact of the
leases of the occupiers of land for the last two years render-
ing them indifferent whether they be expelled their home-
steads or not." (Hear, hear.) Ile would conclude
by making an appeal to the noble lord on this
subject. The noble lord stool pledged to further
parliamentary reform. He (Mr. 11. Berkeley) felt grateful
to the noble lord for that pledge, but he would beg of him
to turn his attention to the consideration of this great and
important point. Mr. Grote, when he was • member of

severe pressure of poor's rate is Ireland, it is expedient to
facilitate by every means the employment of the inmates of
workhouses in reproductive labour, so as to make these es-
tablishments, :so far as possible, self-supporting; and that
it is the duty of the Poor Law Commissioner to see so de-
sirable an object fully carried out." 'rhc hon. member
said there were then 250,000 inmates of work-
houses in Ireland, whose state bordered on de-
moralisation for want of reproductive employment.
Except in the workhouse the poor could get no employment
at all, and had no resource but emigration. And when
they were employed there it was in breaking stones, picking
uakum, or turning mills, not to make their labour produc-
tive, but merely to keep them from The result
was this, that they lost all self-respect, and the burden of
their support was thrown permanently on the rates. In
all the workhouses the number of paupers was increasing.
If the boards of guardians themselves took up the subject
of reproductive labour, they were met by technical objec-
tions by the commissioners which altogether prevented them
carrying out their object. He thought the inmates might
in many cases be employed in agricultural works to the
advantage of themselves, the ratepayers, and the country
generally, if the boards were allowed to take laud for that
purpose and employ instructors.
Mr. O'FLAILEItTY seconded the motion.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the poor law commissioners
were desirous that the inmates of workhouses in Ireland
should at all times be fully employed and the chil-
dren instructed, but it was a very different thing to
carry the produce of pauper labour into the market to
compute with the free labour of the independent labourer
or citizen. The inmates of the workhouse were provided at
the public expense with food, lodging, and clothes, and it
would be impossible for the labourer out of doors who had
to keep himself by the produce of his labour to stand
against such a competition, and the result must be, that
the number of paupers would be increased. In many of
the workhouses a great portion, if not all the goods, used
by the inmates were manufactured by themselves, and that
was no doubt a legitimate way of employing pauper labour,
but to employ it in getting up large stocks of manufactured
goods to enter into competition with the produce of tree
labour, would be to r •-•nt a system which must tend to the

On the motion of Mr. CLEMENTR, certain correspondence
was ordered between the Lords of the Treasury and the
Irish Poor Law Commissioners respecting the expenditure
of the rate-in-aid.

The Mercantile Marine Act Amendment Bill was read a
second time.

The report of the Committee of Supply an. brought up.
COUNTY COURTS EXTENSION HILL

The CLIANCELLOIt of the EXCIIIiCI e lilt gated his
intention of moving the committee on the above bill om
Tuesday, at the 12 o'clock sitting.
The house adjourned ut a quarter-past 12 o'clock.

PAIRS.-sir J. B. East paired against Lord J. Russell's
amendments with Mr. C. L. G. Berkeley for. Colonel L.
Wetkin* paired with Mr. Corhally from July 4 till Thurs-
day evening the 10th.—Mr. liorsman paired off in favour
of Mr. Ilerkele•y's motion on the ballot, with Sir John l'ak.
ington against. Colonel Ereestun in favour, with Mr. Wm.
Lockhart against. Mr. Grantley Berkeley for, with Lord
Guernsey against. Admiral Berkeley for, with Col. Vyse
against. Admiral Dundas for, with Mr. Mouton against.
Colonel Chatterton against, with Mr. M'Gregor for.—Mr.
Iluiehins in favour, with Mr. Philip Miles against.—Lord
Alexander Lennox with Lord George Paget, in favour of
the repeal of the atornies' certificate duty, and against the
ballot. Mr. W. Wilson in favour of Lord It. Orosvenor's
motion for repealing the attornies certificate duty, with Mr.
Bass against. Mr. Halsey for, with Mr. It. G. Townley
against.

Mr. Went was accidentally shut out from the division on
the Beelesistical Titles 13111 on Friday last.
Mr. Humphrey Brown was prevented voting in favour
of Lord Grosvenor's motion, by being shut out on tho

probable
year, it would be unwise and injudicious to pledge them-
selves to sacrifice 120,0001. lie hoped the house would not
agree to repeal this tax, either in the present year or the
next, till they saw what was their financial position, and
until it was known whether the income tax was to be re-
newed or not.
After a few words front Lord ROBERT GROSVENOR,
The house divided—
For the motion
Against it 132-30
Leave was accordingly given to bring in tho bill.
THE BALLOT.
Mr. H. BERKELEY ruse to move for leave to bring in
" a bill for the protection of the parliamentary electors of
Great Britain and Ireland, by taking the votes by way of
ballot." After alluding to the importance of the measure
which he was about to advocate, he observed that a struggle
had long been going on between the aristocracy and the
people, in which the political bully went forth to trample
on all the constitutional rights of the etc. tors. lie wished
to perauade the noble lord at the beau of the government
that, without protection to the voter, no measure of reform
would give satisfaction to the people, or would be otherwise
than a nullity. (Hear, hear.) If the noble lord did not
include the ballot in his proposed measure of reform, he
might extend the constituencies, but the action of open
voting would contract them; he might increase the number
of electors, but with it he would increase the arena of in-
timidation. Of what use would be any parliamentary re-
form to the tenantry of great estates, or to the tradesmen
of cities throughout England—of which the metropolis
was • striking exampleataless the house afforded to
that class of voters protection against landlords and cus-
tomers ? When the noble lord proposed an electoral reform
without that great measure he undertook to cure a disease
in our electoral system, while ho was content to leave • can-
cer gnawing at its vitals. There never was a moment when
it more behoved the members of that house to confer with
their constituents, and to raise an agitation throughout the
country on this subject, in order that the people might not
be defrauded of this great boon. In reply to the remark of
Lord J. Russell, that the present system worked well, lie
asked how a system could be said to work well which
deterred one-third of the electors from recording
their votes; which gave to certain peers the power
of returning 9$ members of that house by direct inter-
ference, and coerced agricultural voters into an elec-
toral Hock of sheep? The hon. members were sent
to that house by the free and independent will of the elec-
tors and without coercion, what evil change could the
ballot produce ? It had no power in itself to coerce the
electors ; but as the electors did not give their votes freely
and independently, the change to the ballot would be most
beneficial, unless the house was prepared to say openly that
intimidation and corruption should be encouraged. (Hear.)
But they dared not assert such in that house. (Hear.)
There was not a man in England who did not know that
opposition to the ballot arose from the disinclination of the
peers to grant to the people the necessary protection in vot-
ing, because they thought that by doing so, they
would be putting the axe to the root of their
own power. (Hear, hear.) lie invited the opponents of
the measure to explain to him why it was that an English-
man was not protected alike in all his rights? why should
be not be protected in his capacity of parliamentary elector?
(Hear, hear.) If • man purchased a carriage or a horse,
and paid taxes, he was free to drive or ride where he
pleased, and was protected. If a man purchased a house or
a freehold, and paid taxes, he obtained the right to vote e
condition that he should not sell it for

place. Another proof was in the fact that
there are sew 206,000 houses less in Ireland than there
week 1641.
Mr. bl. O'PERRALL objected to the clause, on the
=that it was out of glue. It ought never to have been
iectl in a bill having the object which this bill
prat-nisi to have, which was to amend the law with regard
be insolvent debtors. Ile also objected to the clause
because, while it increased the landlord's power, it gave no
neespensation to the tenant. He believed the tenants of
Weed were honest, and if the house would give them set
Weint bill to regulate their relations with their IMAM&
they would be content.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he had heard with surprise
the speech of his right hon. friend. The bill really did
nothing but consolidate and amend the existing law. The
only question the house had to consider was, whether
striking tout the words as proposed would improve the bill.
All he could say was, that his motive was to improve
the social position of the people of Ireland generally, ad
more particularly to improve the relations of lounged Yd
lament. Ile thought the clause as it now stud wee •
tenant's clause, and friendly to the tenants. He believed ft
would benefit both landlord and tenant. They had it in
evidence, that even in the north of Ireland where
the relations of landlord and tenant were more sans.
factory, it was the custom when they gave a
receipt for rent to append to it a notice to quit.
He was never more certain of any thing than that, if they
this clause, they would improve the relation of laa-
, peed
d tenant in Ireland.
Mr. ROEBUCK said the right hon. gentleman said this
was a most important subject. if so, why was it that the
right hon. gentleman did nut bring in a bill to deal with it,
and not in a bill professing to regulate procedure introduce
• clause which altered the substance of the law.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD objected to this clause because
whatever might bewail to the contrary, it was a clause to
extend the landlord's power, and that without relieving
the tenant in any way. lie also objected to it as bring a
discouragement to the granting of leases. It was the
want of security that caused tho people to emigrate. It
was his intention early next session to bring in a compre-
lhensive bill un the subject.
I The committee then divided—
For the amendment
Against it
The committee again divided on the question that the
clause be agreed to, when the numbers were—
For the clause
Against it
The remaining clauses and the schedules were then
agreed to, and the bill passed through committee.
The house teen resumed, and adjourned at a quarter past
3 until a quarter past 5.
The house resumed at a quarter past five o'clock.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
ATTORNEYS. CERTIFICATE DUTT.—By Lord It. GROS-
VENOR, from Wolverhampton, Warwick, Tipperary,
Southampton, and other places ; Mr. COWAN, from the
Society of Solicitors in the Supreme Court of Scotland ;
Mr. CLAY, from the solicitors at Hull; Mr. HENRY,
from attorneys and solicitors at Manchester Mr. BREM-
RIDGE, front the solicitors of South Melton; Sir G.
STRICKLAND, from Preston; Mr. MORRIS, from the
attorneys of Cammeslen ; Mr. GRENVILLE BERKE..
LEY, from the solicitors of Cheltenham; SirW.CODRINCie
TON, from the attorneys of Newnhant ; Mr. BLAIR, from
the solicitors of Bolton ; Mr. HORNBY from the solicitors
of Blackburn: • Sir W. OALLW EY, from the solicitors of

_ .., adopt.
_..—voragetnent of maamfactures in Ireland. There was every
disposition, so far as industrial employment in the work-
houses was concerned, to encourage it, and he thought the
house would ) well to leave the matter in the hands of the

that house, thought that ibis protection of the ballot was
necessary. He (Mr. Berkeley) did not know how many
members might vote with him on the present occasion,
but he knew that 150 members voted with Mr. Grote.
Amongst those who supported the ballot were many men
bearing great names, and men remarkable for their talent
and wisdom. He might mention one hearing the venerated
name of Romilly—one in whom were combined great talents
and high position, who was greatly beloved and unboundedly
popular. (Hear, bear.) Ile was supported on this
subject by her Majesty's Attorney-General, than
whom no man was better acquainted with the working
of the electoral system. (Hear, hear.) He was also sup-
ported by the learned Solicitor-General, whose sound judg-
ment and eloquence went hand in hand, and whose brilliant
defence of this question could not easily he forgotten when
it was before discussed in that house. (Hear, hear.) lie
might strengthen his views by referring also to ancient
legal authorities. He asked the noble lord to re-
consider the question fur the sake of the peo-
ple of England. If the noble lord made a pledge
that he would consider the subject he (Mr. Berkeley) would
withdraw his motion, and he was sure his friends would
approve that course. (Hear, hear.) If the noble lord
would give no such pledge then he must ask for leave to
bring iu a bill to give the protection of the ballot to the
parliamentary electors of Great Britain and Ireland—that
protection which would enable them properly to discharge
a solemn duty and an important right. (Cheers.)
Mr. ELLIS seconded the motion. It had been his lot to
witness a good deal of the working of the present electoral
system, and he had opportunities of knowing the extensive
intimidation and coercion that was employed against farmers
and other persons. Ile did not wish to make any party
charge, fur the remark applied to both sides. (Hear, is ur.)
His honourable friend who made the motion belonged to
a proud aristocratic line, and therefore the more honour
was due to bins fur appearing as the advocate of the mea-
sure. lie did not believe there could be any independence
where there were only 200 or 300 electors. (Hear.)
The question having been put,
Mr. HUME said that he heard with great satisfaction the
speech of his hon. friend (Mr. Berkeley), which appeared
to him to be unanswerable. lie could not understand
how any man, wishing to govern a free and independent
people, could hesitate to support the motion of his hon.
friend. and to afford protection to the weak in the exercise
of a right to which they were entitled. (Hear, hear.) He
unfortunately lost the opportunity he had of bringing for-
ward his motion on parliamentary reform, and therefore he
was obliged to give notice that he would bring it
forward as au amendment to the metien of his
honourable friend. But he had since considered that
their object was the same, and though he believed
that the country required more than was proposed by his
hon. friend, he should be sorry to interfere with any propo
sition by which that house was to be made the constitu-
tional organ to represent the wishes and feelings of the
people at large. No man knew better than the noble lord
what was done to the people of this country. The noble
lord many years ago had pointed out what the people of this
country required. And now that he bad the power, he
wished he would show his sincerity by carrying out that
which he professed when he had not the power. He wanted
the noble lord to fulfil the sentiments he put forward in
1832, when be declared that the time had arrived when
the people of England would not allow the members of
the blouse of Commons to be the nominees of individuals.
The noble lord had reserved two questions at the time of the
Reform Bill—vote by ballot and triennial

MR. GEORGE THOMPSON, M.P.

TO THE EDITOR OP TIIE DAILY NEWS.

Sir,—Permit me, through the columns of your
journal, to take the earliest °ppm tunity and the most effi-
cient means of announcing to the electors and non-electors,
of the Tower Hamlets that I yesterday reached London,
after an absence of eight months spent in the United States
and Canada. . .

Mr. E. B. ROCHE spoke in support of the motion, con-
tending that the subject was one which ought to be settled
by the house, and not left to the commissioners ; though he
admitted it would not be safe to carry the principle out to
the full extent proposed by his hon. friend. If his sugges-
tion to apply some of the money advanced on loan to Ire-
land to the cultivation and manufacture of flax in
Ireland had been carried out every man in the coun-
try might have found employment. It was not by
shutting up a part of the population, and setting it
to compete with the community out of doors, that the
pressure of pauperism was to be. relieved ; hut by encourag-
ing the development of the natural capabilities of the country.
He hoped the hon. member fur Tipperary would not divide
upon the motion.
Mr. P. SCROPE contended that the rules of sound poli-
tical economy ought to be carried out in Ireland, and that
the paupers of that country should he employed in use-
ful, and not useless, labour. The subject was so painful and
distasteful, that he would not detain the house from pro-
ceeding to a division.
Sir J. WALSH thought the motion a very reasonable
one, and the objection of the Secretary fur Ireland to it a
mere hypercritical one.
Colonel DUNNE was of opinion that the principle of
the hon. member for Tipperary's motion was essential to
the carrying out of any poor law whatever in Ireland.
After a few words from Col. Thompson, Sir L. O'Brien,
Mr. S. Crawford, and Lord C. Hamilton,
Mr. J. WILSON thought there was nothing about which
they ought to be more jealous than the rights of the indepen-
dent labourer; for if they brought into competition with him
any large amount of pauper labour whatever relief they might
expect to gain in the support of the latter would be more
than counterbalanced by withdrawing from the former the
labour upon which he hail previously subsisted. He was aware
that the proposition before the house was popular in Ire-
land—(cheers)—for it was looked on as a short cut to
the remedy ; but he must remind them that short cuts
were often the longest route to the desired point. (licer.)
Ai the principle had proved a lamentable failure in Eng-
land, in Ireland, in Flanders, and in Holland, he hoped the
house would hesitate to give their assent to one of the
most delusive and dangerous doctrines that it could sanc-
tion. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. H. HERBERT congratulated the country on hear-
ing the hon. gentleman's admission that the plan adopted
and persevered in, against remonstrances, warnings, and
prophecies, and even against common sense, was a failure.
(Hear.) Had something like the English poor law been
adopted, thousands now dead would have been alive, and
hundreds who had lost their estates would have been able
to retain them.
After a few words from Mr. WILSOX and Lord NAAR,
Sir H. W. BARRON said it was most desirable to encou-
rage manufactures of a certain description. In the union
with which he was connected, no less than 17 trades were
carried on in the workhouse. The inmates made all their
own clothing, male and female, and made the furniture re-
quired. The great advantage was in the improved moral
feeling which had been thus excited ; when the paupers left
the workhouse they turned their industrial training to ac-
count, and earned their own livelihood. Training masters
were employed in the different trades at considerable sala-
ries : ‘‘vertheless, the union found a saving in this course.

My stay abroad haying been protracted much beyond tb•
brief period which I. had assigned for my visit. I Wave been
prevented thus fur from attending the sittiago of parliament
during the present session..
•• . . .

Having returned to my duties in the House of Commons,
I am moat anxious to meet my constituents, that I may
fully explain to them the circumstances in which I have
been placed, and the course which I have thought it right
in those circumstances to pursue. This I mill do either at
an aggregate meeting or in district meetings, as may be
deemed most advisable.

On the shores of a distant country, and amongst a great
and free people, I have been the humble but sincere advo-
cate of the principles on which I was elected to parliament.
I return more ardently than ever the devoted friend of
progress, and of peaceable and wholesome reform; and
whether the reasons I shall be able to give be held sufficient
to justify a temporary suspension of my duties at home or
not, 1 shall not be the less Zealous in that cause, nor less so-
licitous to advance the just rights and interests of that great
constituency through whose independent votes and exer-
tions I was elected to the honourable position which lat
pre►ent occupy.
I am, sir, your obedient servant,
GEO. THOMPSON.
House of Commons, July 9th, 1831.

ROYAL COLLEGE. OF SURGEONS.—The following
gentlemen having undergone the necessary examinationa,
were admitted members of the college on the 7th inst.:—
Messrs. W. Hurd, Valparaiso, South America; G. S. D.
Harris, Blackhall, Sevenoaks; C. F. Lewis, Pimlico; L.
H. J. Ilayne' R.N. ; W. H. Carter, Chichester • E. P.
Gamble, Corls; T. Peete,:Margate ; S. C. Townsend, Cole-
ridge, Devon ; G. Bull, Lewes ; and F. J. Money, O'Mara,
Kent. At the same meeting of the court Mr. W. W.
Wildey passed his examination as naval surgeon.
LANDED AND OTHER REAL PROPERTY.—liester•
day Mr. Rainy delivered a lecture at Willis's-rooms, King-
street, St. James's, on the present legal system of convey-
ancing and effecting sales by public auction and private
contract. The lecturer commenced by drawing attention to
the fret that a very large amount of property was disposed
of every year according to the present system of transfer
and his ('Mr. ltainy's) object was to point out how this
purpose might be effected at a much smaller cost, both to
the buyers and the sellers. The estimated amount of pro-
perty in this country was 4,000 millions sterling, inde-
pendently of our Last India and colonial possessions, and
the great question fur consideration was how they
might transfer this property from hand to hand
with benefit to the public, and without endangering
the legal profession, a profession against which
ho did not seek to show any feelings of hostility.
The present system was not only very expensive, but was
often the means of depriving people of a large portion of
their just rights; and the proposition he wished to bring
- -.1. with a view --wetly the evils, complained li
-d of

HOUSE OF COMNIONS.—TUESDAT, JULY 8.
The Seamier. took the chair at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
TILE NATIONAL LAND COMPANY.
Mr. BROTHER TON moved that the order made on the
6th day of June last for the third reading of the National
Land Dissolving Bill be discharged; that the bill be re.
committed to the former committee, and that they have

kayo to sit and proceed with three members on Friday
next, at 12 o'clock.—Agreed to.
The Lords' Amendments on the following bills were con-
sidered Standard Restoration Bill, and Midland
ltsilway (purehase of Leeds and Bradford Railway, and
Inercalw of Catifitekßill.
The - !maws.
•

Think; Sir R. TAPES, from the solicitors of Ottery St.
Mary's and Teignmouth ; Mr. WEST, from the solicitors
and attorneys of Ruthien ; Mr. MOODY, from two places
in Samersetattirc ; Mr. I'ACKE. from attorneys and solici-
tors of Loughborough; Mr. SANDERS, from the attorneys
and solicitors of Wakefield; Col. OILPFN, from Barn-

money, or place it at
the disposition of a peer—but where wu the law to protect
him from either altersative ? (Hear, hear.) Yet protec-
tion wu required by hon. gentlemen, members of the Bank
of Euglind, the India House, the Trinity House—all sought
protection in secret voting. (Hear, hear.) Even the status
of Sir H. Peel could not be erected without resorting to that
--••

—.oat parliaments. These
were paints of great importance which were now loudly
demanded by reformers. The time was now come when
they ought to be granted, and the noble lord ought to be
the foremost in proposing them to the house. (Bear.)
But tor himself he would not be content with these mea-
sures. The most important measure of reform in his opi-
extension r' -

The'hon. member 'for Westbury had confouZded this indus-
trial training with quite a different Ay.tem, when he spoke
of the experiment having been ti led. thrice. The fact was
he had gut so thoroughly imbued with a certain political
dogma, that it entered into his thought on every subject.
(Hear, and alaugh.) It was absurd to apply political eco-
books

Corwin', . a view to remedy ..
was to this effect—that the only way in which the public
could obtain an efficient mode of carrying out anew system of
conveyancing was by the appointment of a commission, con-
sisting of five committeemen, a president, and two vice-
presidents, and two juniors or assistants, whose business
should be to go through a deal of the preliminary

bilesienl. an (Glasgow. Garnkirk, and Coat-
bridge. Pollee and Govan:dm. Railway*, amendment and
continuation, Ike.) Bill was rend a third time.
The following billsl were considered :—King's College
Hospital (No. 2) Bill, and Llyntri Valley, and Darya
Llynii, and Purtheawl Railway* Bill.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
ATTORNEYS' CERTITICATEL—p7 Mr. MULLINGS,
fain attorneys of Cirencester; Mr. BROADLEY, from
attorneys in Yorkshire; Mr. HINDLEY, from attornies
in Ashton; Sir G. CLERK, from

stable and Leighton Buzzard; Mr. ILLCOX, from
Fermium; Mr. TREVOR, from Watford; Mr.
GOOCH, from the attorneys and solicitors of Bungay ;
Mr. NOWATT, from Pmcot ; Sir J. GRAHAM, from
Mr. MUNTZ, from attorneys at Birminitham; Mr.
STAFFORD, from Northampton ; Mr. W. J. I.OX, Lord
J. MANNERS. Mr. BERESFORD, Mr. HENLEY, C
KNOX, Mr. NEWDEOATE, and Sir C. BURRELL,oI,
from pines not heard, for the repeal of the duty on
attorney's certificates.
Tim BicLoT.—By Viscount DUNCAN, from 2,200 in-

protection ; and in one of the clubs in this metropolis the
members were not only admitted—as was the case
in all the clubs—but actually espelled by ballot.
(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.) He regretted the
absence of the right hon. gentleman the Home Secretary on
the present occasion, who previously stated as his rca-on
for not tendering his support to the ballot measure, "that
the additional public opinion brought to bear on the con-
duct of elections had such an effect as to render the ballot
no longer needed." Now, on that point he could refer the
right hon. gentleman fur an answer to the testimony of that
. .
illustrious —'

isiOn was the extension of the suffrage. He believed, on
the authority of the best and most constitutional lawyers,
that every man in this country who paid tales and was
called on to perform the duties of the state was entitled to
poems the advantage of having a voice in the return of the
gamines who were to represent him in that house. (Hear,
heir) He was not wedded to any particular mode of ef-
fecting that object, but at the same time he must have the
protection which the ballot could alone give to the voter.
(Hear, hear.) With respect to the duration of parliaments,
the noble lord hinted that four years would be a good me-

ply p011...._
nomy learned from . to a country in such a state as was
Ireland at the present moment. The system adopted
in Holland was no other than a vast system of
out-door relief. Here the question was one of re-produc-
tive employment for those immured within the walls of
workhouses. Equally distinct from it was the system in
operation in England prior to the enactment of the present
poor-law. It was nothing less than misrepresentation to
make such comparisons ; it WWI making a very bad use of
political economy. (Hear, hear )
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the

. great
work which would be essential in currying out such opera-
tions. lie contended that the course he proposed would
prove the most efficient means of preventing litigation, and
keeping people out of the Court of Chancery and of tho
courts of common law. In making this statement ho
ventured to express a conviction that if his views
were encouraged and supported, an unfettered mode of
dealing with landed and other real property wool(' soon be
attained, and the value of property would be legitimately
improved to the advantage of all classes of the community,
whilst it would afford perfect security in - to both

_, . regard
_ _ _ ___ __ _ __ , . _
_ ____
__ ......on ; ... _ _—....., .__ attorneys of Dover ; Mr. habitants of Bath, il; favour of the ballot. - diem. That would certainly be far better than mien years, hon. baronet had utterly misrepresented the hon. member titles and money, and would render the General ltegistra-
HeNRY, front attorneYs in Manchester ;in favour of the RIOICTRATION or AeStMANCES BILL. By Sir J. bury election. (.. Hear, Lear," and laughter.) lie behaved but in his opinion three years would be much preferable to for Westbury. Probably he had not heard what took place tion Act immediately available. and at the same time pro-
abolition of the duty on attorneys' certificates. GRAHAM, against this bill. there never was an election contest in which the screw was four years. (Hear, hear.) He supported reform on erono- in the early part of the debate, with reference to the in- vide arrangements against unnecessary exposure and intru-
CIVIL BILLS (IRELAND) BILL. THE CRYSTAL PALACE. so tightly put on the electors as in the ease of the coolest ',lift' grounds. The artirans of England would not : mates of workhouses raising their own food, or he would lion. Mr. Rainy concluded hie lecture (which was listened
The house then went into committee on this bill. Mr. THE
presented a petition from Joseph Pax. between Mr. Bethel! and Mr. Ferraud at Aylesbury. endure to see those of France and Belgium with • • have seen the bearing of the argument of the hon. member to with much attention) by d
observing that if he could ob-
Mr. REYNOLDS asked whether it was intruded that the M setting forth that in designing the espial Num, he (Hem. hear.) Again, there was the election in the Fal- more extended suffrage than they themselves pp& i for Westbury._ What would be the effect of the measure tarn the support he require he would devote all his cam,
emporation of Dublin should continue to be saddled with quipu much in new the subsequent purposes for kirk Burghs. Doubtless the bon. gentlemen there con- seised. The colonies—the Cape and Australia—were to proposed ?If it were to have no practical result on the pies of mind and body to accomplish the object in view.