The Express.
London, England, 1865-03-17 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EV#7pl‘6l, MARO# :17, 1865.

earnestly for the diminution a the military_ expen-
diture. The total force in the British eslaMbhmeet
to be voted for this year was 141,618 mem, Wan •
rednotioe, eompand with the bad year, of stoat
4,000 mos. He **dad the 1/11•421Ne is whisk this
reduction had berm effeeted, rod malela peespeative reduc-
tions, and after • few remarks up ea the subject d alma-
lag, in addition to what he had said epee • farmer °epsilon
whom the eabjeet was disused. be pressedd to give •
detailed szpoolitioa of the aerosol votes. He resorbed upon
veto 4, foe the barrack weroblishmeat, that the experissat
cd masailad the cantata, which had bees placed nader •
committee of °Moos, had proved most sucesinfuL He
notified other improvements In this dolartawat. After
woe cursory remarks awe the votes to, the
militia sod the valuators, be watered epos the
grave eubject of cecinas.* explaining the results of
experiments sad the present position of the great questions
ma to the **operative merits of the various heavy guns
Dow competieg for preference sod other problems in arms.
men% as those relating to breecladoediog and merle-lad-
tag, and the ooeversios of cos to the other. Is essolusion,
Lord Hartipoton observed that the redisdics of the num-
ber of men, he believed, was a nab teductios ; that in the
diminution of the expenditure the government bad gone as
far ea they deemed it safe and practicable to go ; that they
bad done mob, and hoped to do more, towards improving
the condition of our eoMiont sad that there was no diffi-
culty in keeping up their number and quality.:
After some remarks from Mr. ATII7OII sad 81r15. NORTH-
arta,
Sir J. TRELAWNY condemned the appoiatreset of
Lord De Roe to the ooloaeloy of the 4th Human ia cos-
neaten with the office of deputy lieutenant of the Tower, on
the ground that several genera *Main who had seen active
service bad bees pissed over In his favour.
Colorist NORTH defended the appointment, and dwelt at
some length upon the soled the limited tiallstment system.
Sir F. SMITH said that he had never met with an °Moir
who had devoted his time sad athletics more assiduously to
the sulldvatios of his preemies than Lord De Has.
'Die discussion of several details, including the subjects of
barrack accommodation, regimental depots, and recitals&
wee continued by Colonel Dickson, Sir IL Verney, Colonel
Sykes, Lord Hotham, and Mr. Within.
General PEEL said that as these were the het army era
mates the present parliannall would be called epee to pass
he wished to direct &bootie° to the sums which it had voted
oo amount of our national armaments. Dories the Crimean
attune* our war expeaditure had hew enorseons. for at
one Lino it amounted to 44 millions in a aegis year.
In 1857. however, it fell to 22,749,93 W. ; and in 1858 to
22.297,238& ; so that irinad al anincrease Mon was
actually • diminution of more than 480,0001. The &rum
estimates for 185940, which were proposed by Lord Derby's
primmest, were, appals( from memory, for 120,000 men,
and for 11.500,0001. -•
, to lAkit 700,0004 paid by UN Indian
government should be added. making • total of 12,200,0001.
Now he would come to the e: tors of our wisest
esonomical government. For 18861 t was 26,308,0001. ; for
1880, 28,148,0001. ; for 1861, 28,523.00 W. ; far 1862,
27,854,0001. ; for 1863, 25,728,000 i. acid for 1854,
24.74%0001. ; tasking a total 'swatters by the protest
parlioniest of so less than 180,808,02:M. (Chiers.) This
wee, moreover, exclusive of the estimates for
next year, the votes of credit for the war in
Chins, and the mosey raised by the loans for fortifications.
No doubt it would be said that this Increased expenditure
had been caused by the necessity for reoptistructing our
fleet, and for supplying the army sod navy with new guns.
If that had been done—if the country had been supplied
with • Navy, be would not say in advance of the rest of the
woad, but on an equality with that of any other saline,
and if we had guns equal to the requirements of the day—
he should say that this enormous expenditure had been an
economical ors. Bet wee it sot Oa the costrary, we bad
bees building vessels not saMeiently protected to p into
motion, acid not sufficiently fast to come out of it—vsseels,
in fact, that could neither fight nor ran away. (A laugh.)
Oar guns, too, wore not salleimit for the Denbo they were
wanted to perform. Not only bad we not the best gun,
but the government could not make up Ha mind
which was the best, het it should be obliged to
undertake ell the Immense expenditure it had gone
through over again. (Hear, hear.) He was
more alarmed in his life than by the statement of the noble
lord as to reereiting. The noble lord said that, though it
wee proposed to diminish the army by 1,400 men, he would
not do it by actual reduction, but by check* reereitiog.
Well, it had checked it most effectually. The noble lord
stated that bat mouth there were actually 4,000 men re-
quired to make up the number of the army It was no
Baia/action to him (General Peel) to be told *that the men
were not wanted. The governmest had loud the most strin-
gent instructions to the recruiting parties, and they had eves
reduced the standard by an inch, and yet in time of
pease they amid not make up the Dumber of men voted by
; whereas during the Crimean war 48,000 men
parliamentataly bean recruited in eight months. It seemed to
lum (General Peel) that it was most to extend the
period of ealistment to 12 years., as was • can is the
cavalry and artillery; for it was found that the mos
in those services reoolisted much more freely, bemuse they
had a lees time to wait for their pensions. He wee afraid
that when the country saw how nnfortueste the govern-
ment had been with their ships and guns, sad how difficult
they found it to procure men for the army, it would think
that the house had been expendieg Its money
"Not wisely, but too well."
(Laughter and cheers.) Hs must say that the estimates
were now presented to the bogie la a very improved form,
and that they only seeded • Inhumed account of the mann.
facturieg departments to render them perfect. (Hear,
boar.)
The Marquis of BARTINOTON baring briefly replied,
the first vote, namely 142,477 men, was put and agreed to.
The house also voted 178 native Indian troops employed
as the British establishment.
Oa the vote 5,434,5671. for opera staff and regimental
Pag;r J. TRELAWNY moved a reduotios of 6911.19,. 75.,
the pay of • major-general attached to the foot guards. It
wee believed that the °Mos had been created to reward an
old soldier ; that it wee at above, and that it ought to be
abolished. . .

The Marquis of HARTINOTON defended the vote.
After some further discussion the committee divided, end
the numbers were—
For the ameodmeet 27
Against
The amendment was consequently lost.
Ookooel DUNNE moved that the chairman report pro-
gress.
Lord PALMERSTON oramenied, bet said that the vote
would be resumed to-morrow (this day).
The Casimir...lr then reported progress without the vote
Wing agreed to sod the house resumed.
CONSOLIDATED FUND (175,8501.) BILL.
This bill was read a awned time.
COLONIAL NAVAL DEFENCE BILL

Th. hooM7C;;i1;;;IlliTOOT1111110; this
Mr. CARDWELL said this was • bill to extend to
British colonists the benefits of the naval reserve system,
and to enable them to fit out ships of war ; sad le hoped
the effect would he the establishment of a great imperial
system of naval defence for the colonies. (Chun)
The bill flea passed through eommitten
PERTH PROVLSIONAL ORDER CONFIRMATION

mt. bill Ins rood a third thatiand wed.
METROPOLITAN MAIN DRAINAGE EXTENSION

BILL

Thin bill pawed through conionliee.
QUALIFICATION FOR OFFICES ABOLITION BILL.
This hill paused through conamittaa, and the third read-
ing was fired for that day weak.
The house adjourned at We mioutes to ow.

Tin PAPZR DUTIES. —A deputation of paper
manufacturers, oessiating of above severity firma, forming
with those whom they represented live-sixths of the trade
of the country, had as interview with Lord Palmerston
yesterday, on the subject of the condition in which the
paper trade of this country is pieced in coosequenoe of the
protection afforded to foreign manufacturer' by means of
the export duties levied abroad on paper-making material..
Mr. J. F. Maguire, M.P., introdoesd the deputation, and
pointed out the deplorable condition to which a large por-
tion of the trade had bees reduced. He was followed by
Mauls. Evans, Wrigley, Brum, Chaim., James Spicer, and
others; and Lord Palreentoa prornimed that the matter
should have the full ocasideratkar of the goverwerat.

EFAILWIIIFILLIT tie PARLlAlaNT.—Yesterday
the Lords' committee paned the Lanneeene, Bodeen, and
Wadebridge Juooto Railway Bill. In the Boon of Corn.
mess, the promoters' one of the Londe's. Brighton, end'
South Coast Railway (St Leniard's Lies and Deviations)
was =sued, sad =ides= =doe= in support. The Barnet,
Hoodoo, Hampstead, sad Load= Railway woo opened by
Mr. Rodwa, Q.C., and evident° taken. Mr. Thins, Q.C.,
the ease of the Loodoo sad Booth Western Railway
Melisdesingtoa, km), and was proceeding when the committee
rows. Is group 5 Mr. Vettablas, Q. 0., °posed the pro.
meters' case of theOkehamptoeßailway (N.. 2)Bill. Theca=
of the Whitebait= and Furness Joactios Railway was also
=reed, and penal evidence taken in support. lo group 13.
the committee proossiod with the evidence in the case of
the Bedford, Northampton, and Weed= Railway, which
occupied the what, of the day's sitting. The further =mr
domino of the Qattara! sod Kilmarnock Extend= Roil.
way entspied the committee in group 23 during the day.
The referees took into consideration the North Surrey sad
the Bast Loodoo Railway Bills.
Suiduuos or MARINI TELIONAPHT.-11,0
Privy Oleos= have oommueiciated with the Men= D.
sad Harbour Board as to the expedisoey of establishing es
pertain pants of the English coast semaphore at slaw)
stations, to =able passing ships to oommuniean orders or
internat.°, or to receive each mange' from owes's, ha.
It is proposed that these stations shall be connected by
heisgraphie wires with each other, said also with other
tokamak' stallions of the 'donde= The Board will no
Pert to the Privy Council as to criestruative foulities
esd expusser.
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