The Express.
London, England, 1848-08-08 00:00:00

I,TTIE iXPRE:.SB, TUSIDAY:

EVE/tING, ATAUST 8, 1848.

XMIOR.A.TION,
Lord J. RUSSELL, Is Lower to Lord Ashley, taidthat
'the government would be happy to assist in spreading inVor-
motion as to emigration, but that government could grant no
funds for this purpose.
Lord 0. BENTINCK asked when the half-minion loan
to the West Indians for labour emigration weuld be proposed
by the government.
Lord J. RUSSELL replied after the Sugar Duties Bill
was passed.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice that to morrow (this day)
he should move the suspension of the order affecting Wed-
nesday's sitting', and propose that during the remainder of
the session, the douse should, on Wednesdays, sit from 12 to
3, to take the orders of the day, and from 5 o'clock during
the remainder of the evening to go into committee of
supply.
AMERICAN POSTAGE.
Lord PALMERSTON, in answer to Mr. CaltriWeLL, nail
that he could not lay on the table the con espondence relating
to the American postal tariff, as negotiations were still
pending.
- Mr. P. HOWARD begged to ask her Majesty's Secretary
for Foreign Affsin whether it was the intention of her Ma-
jesty's government, either singly or in concert with her allies,
to mediate between Sardinia and Austria, for the pa iticat,on
of the north of Italy
Lord PALMERSTON assured the house that her Ma-
jesty's government was deeply sensible of the importance of
putting an end to the war in the north of Italy, and ho wee
happy to be able to say that this sentiment was stand by the
government of France. The result of which was that in concert
with France ministers were taking steps in order ay amicable
negotiations to bring that war to a termination. (Hear.)
GUNPOWDER IN SALUTES.
Mr. HUME moved for a return of the quantity of powder
annually expended in salutes, which he understood amounted
to 50t. a day.
BRITISH SPIRITS WAREHOUS,NG BILL.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated that
owing to the pressure of other business, the m, as ure for
warehousing British el irita could not be proceeded with at
present.

sot sufficient to manage this business, It would be better to
give the appointment altogether to the central board, rather
then ran the risk of creating jeakras feelings.
Mr. NEW DEGATE opposed the ameadment.
Mr. FORSTER doubted whether public opinion was a safe-
guard against local jobbing. He would remind the hon.
member for the Tower Hamlets that there was as much job-
bing in the place he represented as anywhere.
Copt. PECHELL said the bill originally vested both the
appointment and removal of the surveyor and inspector in
the general board. That point had been very properly given
up by the noble lord ; bat now, when it was partially restored
in the other house, he supported it. He (Capt Pechell) had
hurl of no local jobbing in the town he represented ; the
bright example which that place had set in it' management
of the peer and other matters had compelled the approval of
the pour-law commisaionere, and was worthy of imitation by
the country at large.
Mr. MACKINNON did not believe that the power of re-
moval would ever be improperly used by the general board.
Mr. BROCK LEHURST said that his constituents, the
inhabitants sal Macclesfield, were just now 'meeting from the
effects of a dispute with the Woods and Forect, ; and he
thought the amendment under di-ctuoion was well calcu-
lates to generate such disputes between local and central
authorities.
Mr. E WART had always opposed the central interference
of the po r law commissioners, and he objected to this mei
sion on the come ground.
Mr. URQUHART appealed to the consistency of the noble
lord (Morpeth) to resist this amendment. If the authority of
the general limed was restored in this instance, the same re.
suit must follow in 13 or 14 other cases in which the lords had
made similar re-insertions. This would be, in effect, an
abandonment of the principle of sellgovernment.
Viscount MORPETH said that, by the adoption of the
amendmi at the surveyor would be placed on the same ford-
ing as the officer of health. Whea the town of Liverpool
applied for a sanitary hill, they requested that the surveyors
should only be removable by the muted authority.
Atter a few words from Mr. HIIeLET and Mr. SPooNEE,
The house divided.—For the lords' amendment 55
Against it
Viscount MORPETH maid he should invite the committee
to disagree with the next amendment, which made the power
HAITI. of appointing the officer of health subject to the approval of
Lord PALMER.STON, in answer to Mr. W. GLADSTONE,
stated that orders had been sent to the admiral commending the general hoard. This was • matter which he thought
might safely be left to the local board.
on the Wist lonia station to protect the British inhabit ints Mr. NEWDEGATE was glad to hear that such was the
of Haiti. noble lord's decision.
Mr. WARD said that a frigate had already been sent to The motion for rejecting this amendment was then
Haiti from Jamaica. agreed to.
BELGIAN REFINED SUGARS. Viscount MORPETH moved that the amendment in
Lord G. BENTINCK asked whether the relit' lord clause, 41, which autburises the general ourd to fix the
had received the report of the Belgian Chamber re Cam scale on which a new map should be made,—should be
merce relative to refined sugars in that country 1 agreed to.
Lord PALMERSTON said he did not know what report Mr. SPOONER opposed it.
the noble lord reeerved to; but if he would let him know Mr. HENLEY said the effect would be that no new maps
privately, he would give him an answer to-morrow in the would be made, if they could posaibly do without them.
house. They would put up with very old, imperfect maps, to avoid 11
PUBLIC HEALTH BILL. the prat rferenee of the general boatel.
Lord MORPETH moved that the h use now resolve itrell Mr. P. HOWARD raid that great advantage had arisen
into a committ e to consider the Lords' amendments in from the interference of the tithe commissioners its the matter
this hill. of 'nape.
The SPEAKER having left the chair, The amendment was ultimately agreed to, as were several
The amendmente in clauses, from 1 to 7 inclusive, were
hetothr minor ones, without discussion. An ameedment at
reed seriatim at the table and agreed to. end of clause 45, imposing a penalty, was divagreed to.
at
dance 8 being put. On clams 40,
Lord MORPETH said he did not propose to disagree to Viscount MORPETH proposed to dieagree from the
the amendment made by the lords on the clause at the in- amendment which made the toll applicable to any place con-
stance of a most reverend prelate, but he proposed to add an taining 2,000 inhabitants; the original number being 5,000.
amendment to the lords' amendment, to the effect Another amendment substituted "a clear majorty," instead
that when morality should exceed the rate of 23 of t• three fifths," of a meeting convened to authorise any
in 1 000 in any locality, the Beard of Health should public work.; and from this he also dissented.—'the amend-
have power to send down inspectors without any pa. menus were accordingly oriole out out of the clause.
tition from one-tenth of the inhabitants. He considered this Lon. MORPETH proposed that the amendments of the
the more necessary in consequence of the certain approach Lords in the smoke clause should be agreed to.
of the cholera. On this subject he did not wish toescite any Mr. SPOONER moved to add iron and coal works to the
undue alarm, but he felt he should not act a fair or (enmity xempti .ns in this clause.
part either teethe house or the public if he was to conceal the Lord MORPETH had no objection to admit the amend-
fact that it had been ascertained that the cholera was ment as to iron works, but could not extend th exemption
advancing in precisely the same track which it had pursued to c.:llieries, which be was informed might be dealt with by
is 1832, and that its approach had been husked sit w.,' in the machine s now in vogue; and in many of the distric a in
the last visitation by the 'Mae precursors--he influenza and which collieries were situated much of the benefit of the
diarrhea. He regretted to state that it did not COMP in a clause would be lost if it were applied to such works.
softened degree, and therefore he tnought it necessary to Mr. FORSTER opposed the clime altogether, which he
state a few facts and particularwhich had been received believed
owed its origin to the ournerisus patentees of ineen.
from Britivh ministers end consuls abroad. He found from thins for the consumption of smoke. Ile would move that
a return received from See Petershurg up to the latest date,
o the claws be omitted. •
that in that city there had been 17,000 cowes of cholera. `•" Mr. W BROWN also opposed the clause.
these theta had been 10.138 deaths, and 4,618 eases of cure; Mr. BRIGHT observed that this clause comprised all the
no that the proportion of deaths from that malady at St. absurdities of all previous smoke bills. Hon. gentlemen who
Petersburg had been in the proportion of 57 in every 100,
advocated this clause could not he aware how injurioualy it
while the cures were only 26 in every 100. At Moscow would affect the manufactures of the kingdom. But, beyond
there had been 9,754 cases, of which there were 4,309 deatba. this, as it stood, it could never be carried out ; no magis-
It was further stated theist o.le4a,theotherextremity of ltus- trete would ever he able to r onvict upon it. A penalty was
sir, there had seen 13:1 CAW, of which 44 ended in death, and imp teed in all cases where the nuisance arising from opaque
only 33 had recovered. In various parts of Bessarabia the Miele ra smoke was not abolished if practicable. Who was to decide
was advancing repidly, and in e'ontarabia, Duchene, and whether it was practicable or not ? Fifty different pun-
other places, the greatest alarm prevailed. At Goa, during tees would i ach tell you that it was practicable, but only by
the last week, the cholera has increased, though the niur. means of his particular invention. (A laugh.) Then who
tality had not been great, hut in • village distant shoot One was to decide between opaque and transparent smoke ?
hour's ride from that city, nearly the whole population had Whether it was opaque or not would often depend upon the
perished. At Jassy the deaths had been at the rate of 100 background. It was childish to legislate in this way.
to 130 per day, and the consul stated that the malady ap- The ATTORNEY GENERAL could not deny that the
peered to be sat quite a novel character. being so rapidly de- clause, if pawed in its present shape, might occasion some
'trochee that the victims were carried off in two or three difficulty, and he should be glad if his hon. friend could
hours. This was attributed to the extreme heat of the sea. suggest such alterations as would make it a good working
sou, and it was added that all the tribunals and schools were clause.
clued; and, to increase the misery of the population, an Mr. BRIGHT believed that would be impossible. (A
enormous swarm of locusts had appeared in all directions. laugh.)
In the neighbourhood adjacent to Jassy the cholera was Pr. MACKINNON reminded the house that a general
raging with great violence. At Belgrade It was preys bill for putting an end to the smoke nubance had been
lent; and a swarm of caterpillars, such as never before strongly recommended by a committee of that house, and
had been seen, had appeared in the valleys, and destroyed he did not think that the fact that the remedy in the case of
every plant—the roads were literally black with them, and the furnaces of hon. gentlemen opposite would cost some
with their presence the cholera raged. It was subsequently 201. to 301. each should stand against the adoption of a
stated from Belgrade that the malady raged in a most
dreadful form, and the consul rated he had not heard of a mewure which was necessary for the public convenience and
the public health. (Hear.)
single case of recovery. The last extract to which lie should Mr. BRIGHT would be glad to pay the hon. member
call attention was from Grand Cairo. The consul-general 501. if he would remedy the evil in his furnace.
stated that there the Asiatic cholera had appeared in a form Mr. Duommoon and ell. P. HOWARD opposed the clause.
of unusual malignity. Hitherto its ravages had been confined Lord bIORPETIL—As the Attorney General informed
to the city itself ; but what was meet melancholy and extra- him that the clause would not work, he should hardly think
ordinary was, that although the sufferers had received all it worth while, under the circumstances, to incur the odium
possible aid from medical men of great experience and ac which, whether justly or not, seemed to attach to its adop-
ctistomed to treat the disease, not one case had been saved, lion: the more so, es he thought one great object in carrying
but every patient had died in the course of a very the bill should be not to put anethiug in it which should in-
few hours utter the that attace. 110 (L ,rsl Morpetli) duce parties to uprose its operation, sod thus, in a measure,
did not suppose that the adoption of this bill or any of to frustrate the heath.. it was calculated to confer. He
its clauses would be expected to arrest the approach of this wished it, however, to be understood, that his opinion was
malignant and mysterious disesae,which seemed to be breed- unchanged as to the importance of putting a stop to the
inc over the whole of Europe ; but still alltestimony uu the smoke nuisance, and he should feel bound to adopt or support
subject went to show that if they could not arrest its pro- any measure which might hereafter be introduced for that
gresa or prevent its arrival in this country, they still might purpose. Ile would withdraw the clause. (Hear, hear.)
very mates hilly modify its effect., if not save some districts Mr. MUNTZ oho reed that although the smoke nuisance
altogether from its raragrs He had with him a very able might be miverially reduced by care, no scheme that belied
volume of the British and Foreign Medical and Chirtsrgical ever heard of would put an end to it altogether. He hoped,
Jimmy, containing an article which showed that in any in framing an' new measure on the subject, practical men
country it era. possible to foretell the locality in which the woold be consulted, and that the matter would not be left to
cholera would appear, and the class of people who would be mere theorists, who knew nothing of manufactures.
affected by it. The locality would be where the air was Clause struck out.
damp from .:halation, from rivers and marshy grounde, or Clause 67, ventilation clause.
'the re vs getable and animal matter was, by negler, allowed Lord MORPETH toed that the Lords had struck out this
to eccumolate, and the clays of people who would meet clause. As it was connect d with the smoke clause, which
severely Buffer would be those exposed to these noxious irate had also been struck out, he was inclined to agree to the
cues. In fact during the last visitation of the malig. amendment. Amendment agreed to.
nant distase it raged moat severely in Mauch,' Clause 68, requiring the registration of common lodging.
ter and other large towns in the vicinity of the houses.
water-courses, and in districts which were notoriously in a Mr. HENLEY said that as this clause had been amended
bad sanitary condition. These were the localities which in it the Lords, the Iluminume and the public hotels would
tilted and wooed the approach of the choler', and the clue he obliged to register as common lodgieg-hcuses. He ob-
which had been decimated by its ravages were the pourer jeeted to the amendment.
classes. thus t xposol to the attacks of this mast malignant After an ohservation from the ATTORNEY-GENERAL the
and mysterious discus.. Oa these grounds he felt justified amendment was negatived.
in cabbie UPON the committee to adopt this amendment,
Clause 75, local bear's may provide places of recreation.
convinced ,bat in making the tromositiou he had done what
Lords' am. ndoteet, " with the approval of the genteel
in him lay ti prevent the . xtensien of this most dreadful beard."
pestilence. (Hear, hear.) The nublo It el moved the amend- Lord hIORPETII expressed his approval of the words
ment to the effect already rated. added by the L ode. Agreed to.
Mr. HENLEY thought the amendment, so materially Clause 79, maiater.ance and construction of public cisterns
altering the character of the hill, ought to have been printed for gratuitous toe. Lords' amendments empowering church-
ar.d is the hands of members before the noble teed rotted wardens arid overseers to construct in :he absence of local
them to adopt it. With respect to the malady which it was boards. Agretel to.
said was about to visit this country, he would only observe Clause tie. Leeds' amendments agreed to without dis-
that if it did come in the ordinary time within which it had cession.
heftier reached tle se ehures, it would be here before the Clare 83, burial grounds, &c., dangerous to health may
machinery of this hill could be brought into operation. be prohibited. Proviso added by the oords—" Provided
Under all erCuM,PanCti., he asked the noble lord to make that nothing herein contained shall pr, ju see or aff, et the
this si cone power conferred upon the central beard provi- right of interment iii an) family vault ce burial-piece."
sional instead of direct. Mr. HENLEY objected to this proviso. The clause re-
Lord MORPETH said the, ton the understanding that cited that these burial grounds were
be pr,
p judi
ermitt cial d
to the
there would be no further uppositisin to the clause, he was public Lealth. If so, they s not under
willing to invert a proViso making the power provisional, and reumetancec. (Hear, hear.)
not direct. anLocr'd ItlOßPliall bell ved that the proviso had been in-
After a short conversation, in which Mr. Neeshgate, Mr. traduced out of respect for family feenngs. .
Urquhart, Mr. Carden 11, the Attersiey- General, Mr. Ald. Mr. HENLEY considered that it the practice wash:ill/thee
Sidney, Mr. Mackinnon, and Mr. K. Seyruer to
part, Vie it should be stopped altogether.
amendment was agreed to with the proviso as suggested by Mr. lIUME theught that the clause should be struck oat.
Mr. 11,1ilry. The ATTORNEY .GENERAL agreed with his hon.
The amendments to dames 9to 36 inclusive were agreed (rived in thinking the proviso at variance with the principle
to withseit discussion. On the Lords' amendments to clause of the clause. It looked like mating one law for the
37 being nut, rich ane another tor the poor. If the abolition of
Lord MORPETH said he was not prepared to disagree each burials was necessary for the public health, he did not
with all the amendments made he this clause ; fur instance, think that considerations of family feelings should stand in 1
he approved of the provision which made the removal of the the wet'. (Hear, hear.)
local surveyors from their office dependent not on the mere Mr. MACKINNON opposed the proviso, grounding his
will of the local board, but subject to the approval of the vote on the evidence he had heard given before the public ,
I
central board. This would make the surveyors independent, health oommittee.
as they ought to be, of local authority or influence. lie Col. SIBTIIOIIP supported the proviso. If the living
was willing, however, to strike out the " inspectors of representative of the house of Mackinnon was not anxious
nuisances" from the proviso. to lay his bones along with those of his ancestors, he (Col:
Mt objected to the Lords' amendment, which Sibthurp) was. (Laughter.)
went to cripple the powers of the local boards over their own Mr. MACKINNON, in reply to the observation of his
servants. hon. and gallant friend, had only to say that as far as his
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL defended the alteration, feelings were concerned, he had much rather be buried in
the highway, than in a family vault, it the latter mode were
on the ground that the surveyor ought to be independent of
the Weal board. proved to he injurious to the health of the living. (Hear.)
Mr. HENLEY and Capt. PECHRLL opposed it, as a further Col. SIBTRORP—So would I. (Much laughter.) This
extension of centralisation, and a departure from the erinci- is too grave a subject for jesting. (Hear, bear.) The hon.
plea ot local government. member for Lymington declines to lay his bones along with
Mr. BROTHERTON thought it right that the removal those of his father, but where my father lies there will I lie
of the sutveyor should rest with the general board. Owing aiso. I will do it, sir. (Much laughter.) 1
to local jobbing a man might often be discharged simply be- The proviso was rejected.
cause Ise did his duty. Clause 80, local boards may purchase pleasure-prone& '
Mr. HUME supported the same view. Lords' amendment : " With the approval of the general
board."
Sir W. CLAY expressed his anxiety to maintain local
Lord MORPETH proposed to amend the Lords' amend. '
government, and did not think a sufficient case was made out
meta by confining the control of the general board to cases
for the lords' amendment. Most important duties were en-
in which the purchase money exceeded 5001.—Agreed to.
trusted to the local board, and yet the anomaly wits proposed
Clause 119, local boards not to execute certain contracts
os taking away from them all authority over the servant
without notice, &e.
they, : ppoiht d. It was said the Joel commissioners might
Mr. MUNTZ thought the clause so objectionable that he
be jobbers : lout suppose the surveyor had job, of his o t n to
would move its entire omission.
promote, which was not impossitle, he might set the local
hoard at deflince. It was incredible that a board of commis-Mr. NEWDEGATE supported the amendment—The
skitter', elected by the people, would so defy public opinion
as to remove ai, officer because he did his duty. ngamet the clause, LS amended committee. divided—
._.
52
Mr. VILLIERS thoueht the genteel board would be as Fur the clause 47-5
much alive to public opinion as the local board. He coma The clause was accorause dingly struck out.
dercd the amendment supplied a very salutary control. With record to cl 127,
Mr. MUNTZ was opposed to any increase of centralise- Lord MORPETH said that the lords' amendments upon
tion, or to anything which might create hostility between this clause empowered the poor-law auditor to audit the ac-
the general and the local board. If the local authority was counts in all cases. lie thought that woulc. be objectionable

the
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The motion was agreed to.
The remaining amendments, with the schedules, were
then agreed to, sod the bill as amend. d reported to the
hose. A conference was then aointed for to-morrow his
dayu) to discuss the amenumeets with the House of Lords.
TAXATION.
On the motion that the house resolve itself into a commit-
tee of supply,
Mr. EWAILT rose to move "that it is expedient there be
a revision of our present system of taxation ; especially with
a view to extend the commerce of the country and to increase
the employment and comforts of the people." The time
had now come when it became necessary to consider the tax-
at ien of the country with ts view to its revisiou, but he begged
to guard himself in the outset from being supposed to advo-
cate any vast or sudden change from the system of indirect
to that of direct taxation. The present system of taxation
was a complete maze and labyrinth, and the Chancellor of
the Exchequer could confr no greater benefit on the country
than by reducing to order the present undigested main.
They ought to do something to convince the people of this
country that they appreciated the patience with which they
endured their privations. No people could be more descry-
ing of attention at the hands of the government. In conse-
quence of the events on the continent the value of the exports
from this country had fallen off two or three millions. They
could only make up for this loss by extending their trade
with China and America. The first thieg, therefore, they
should do would be to reduce the tea dirties, and as soon as
possible the tobacco duty. The system of indirect taxation
principally affected the poorer classes. Ti.ey were also the
greatest sufferers frern the adulteration of articles on which
high duties were placed. These considerat mu should have
weight with the government and the house. But the princi-
pal consideration was that these duties tended to limit the
extension of their commer. e, and, therefore, the employment
of the people. The people were beginning to complain loudly
of these duties. At Liverpool and Manchester associations
had been formed, for the purpose of poicting out to the
government and to the country the moat practicable and
ututtimal modes of redistributing the taxation of the em-
pire, and iu especial of relieving commerce from the burdens
with which it was oppressed so injuriously, rot only to the
trading classes but to the whole community. The duties
upon tea required thorough revision. Tea was an article
which, from being merely a luxury of the rich, had become
a necessary o: the poor, and were the duties upon it placed
on a proper footing, there would scarcely be a limit to the
consumption of the article—a result which, while practically
most productive to the revenue, would create an im-
mense increase in our trade with Chins, and there-
by a vast addition to the employment of the poor.
With a duty of one shilling on tea, he had no doubt that
England would become the great depot of tee for the whcle
western world. The duties on tobacco, also, required imme-
diate anti thorough revision. This was a tax which fell very
hardly upon the poorer classes, with whom tobacco was a
necessary of life. There could be no doubt that a proper re-
duction of the duties on tobacco weuld materially augment
the revenue, for, at present, the excessive amount of the tax
so encouraged Iraud of every de,cription in the conduct of the
trade, that the far greater proportion of the artiele sold
as tobacco, was either smuggled altogether, or so
extensively adulterated, as to produce, in comparison
with the consumption of the commodity, a very inadequate
revenue. A simplification of these and similar duties would
enable the government to make laree reductions in the cast
of our customs department, and almost to dispense ultimately
with our coast guards a service, alone costing the country
nearly 400,0001. per annum. The curse upon which the
right Lon. baronet the member for Tamworth had entered,
in the abolition or reduction of duties, had been attended
with such beneficial effects to the country, in every respect,
that he was only surprised that the present government had
not more determinedly followed in his footeteps. There was
the article of soap: it was generally admitted thatcleanlinese
was something beyond a mere comfort, that it was an absolute
virtue a circumstance essenti d to the public health, but the
excise duty on the article, while it intertered most injuriously
with trade, effectually precluded the due practice of this
virtue. He considered that it would be an excellent thing
to abolish altogether the duty on soap. Another excise
duty which he would fain sweep away was the duty on pa-
per, a duty materially impeding the progress of education,
and coneequently the progress of social happiness and well-
being, and at the same time greatly cramping a branch of
commerce which might other else be largely extended. He
objected, further, to the duty on bricks as interfering more
especially with the comfort of the people. There were other
taxes in relation to which canmutation might be adopted—
the window-tax, for 'astute. There was the duty on fire
insurances, again it this duty were reduced one-half, the re
would be at least thrice the amount of revenue derived from it.
The duty on advertisements was one which might be reduced
seith infinite advantage to the revenue, as well as to the com-
Ia the United States, where the advertisement
duty was on a proper footing, the number of advertisements
which paid duty to the state, was 10 millions to 700,000 in
England. The stamp duties needed close revision, for at
present, while on a basis least calculated to benefit the state,
they operated most injuriously upon the 'wearer classes of the
community. Mr. Stewart. in his able may on the " Facili•
[alien of the Transfer of Landed Prmerty," has pointed out
inn most lucid manner the impediment placed by the un-
equal imposition of these duties oa tLe proper circulation of
land. As to the legacy and probate duties, the interest of the
state and of the community would be best consulted by abolish-
ing them altogether, and placing on them duty applicable to the
the acquisition by bequest of every d. scription of property,
landed as will as personal. Mr. Iluseiseen had emphati-
cally urged the commutation of our taxation, and the trans-
ference of the main burden from commerce to property. la
this view, Mr. P. Thompson, Sir 11. Parnell, Lord Althorp,
and many otter able politicians bad fully cor.curred, and the
right hon. member for Tamworth had practically admitted his
adherence to the principle in the imposition of the income
tax. One great benefit from the system of direct taxation
would be the enormus economy in collection. Fully two-
thirds of the present expenditure under this head would be
saved by carrying out the views which he advocated. He
asked for no wild change. He only sought to raise the ne-
cessary revenue of the empire by means less open ssively
weighing upon the industry of the country and the happi-
ness of the community at large.
The CHANCELLOR ()like EXCHEQUER said thst hr
agreed for the most part in the pinup:es enunciated by his
hon. friend, and he had endeavoured to act upon them as
closely as the circumstances of the country had enabled him.
It would be a source of the highest gratification to him to
proceed further in the course suggeste.l by his hon. friend,
es the finances of the country should admit of his doing so.
He fully acknowledged the inequalities which se injuriously
characterised many features of our taxation, and he could
assure his hon. friend that he would apply his best endea-
vour' to their removal. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME enforced the necessity of carrying out the
reforms suggested by his hon. friend at the earliest possible
moment, convinced as he was that, so far from lessening the
revenue, the reductions contemplated would raise the revs.
nue to a far greater amount than it now presented. As to
the government, according to their own account, they would
never Lave sufficient means at their disposal enabling them
to reduce taxation. The more they had, the more they
spent, end the more they wanted. His hon. friend had cot
gone into the usessed taxayell of which required close revision.
There was the duty on carriages ought to be ab dished.
There was the window tax, t.,: what tax more needed
removal, for the sake of tl.e public health and comfert? The
probate duty afforded e strong proof of the selfishness of the
landed classes; for when the two bills imposing that duty
upon personal and real estates were- before parliament the
first only was p-issed, whilst that taxing the descent of reel
property was read a third tiox, but never imssed. He never
xpected to see any relief from t :Ratio.' accomplished until
parliament stepped in arid put an end to the extravagant
expeneiture of ministers. At the same time he was of
opinion that the house could not enter into the subject
at that late houro.or, at the present p. nod of the union.
Dr. BOWRING regretted also the lateness of the period
at which the hon. member had bronght forward Ws motion,
whit totally precluded the house from goitre into the sub.
jest. He believed, however, his bon. friend's speech would
produce an effect on the country.
Mr. COBDEN suggested that it would be better not to
divide the house on the motion, although he entirely cnn-
cuffed in it. The question was a. highly important one, but
it was too late in the session to discuss it with advantage.
Mr. HUME asked whether it would rod be b. tter to post-
pone the navy estimates until the iTi .encv of the committee
was in the hands of hon. members
After some discussion between Mr. Cobden, Lord J. Rus-
sell,Mr. Conic, and Mr. F. Miele, the motion was nega
tived without a division, and the ord. r of the day for going
into committee of supply was postponed until Wednesday
next, at five o'clock.
SUPPLY REPORT.
The report of the committee of supply was brought up,
and the resolutions were read from the chair.
On the resolution for granting the sum of 28,4451. fur the
British Must urn being propos. d,
Mr. FIUME took the opportunity of stating that the
Grenville library, the gift of which to the nation had been
so highly and justly lauded by the right hon. baronet the
member for Tamworth, was lying unarrarged and covered I
with dust at the British Museum, and owing to the neglect
of the officers this most interesting collection of booth was
utterly useless to the public.
Dr. BOWRING said that there ought to be a classed as
well as an alphabetical catalogue of the books in the library
of the British Museum.
The resolutions were agreed to, and the report was re-
ceived.
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withdraw his motion, and rely on his (Mr. F. Maule's) &s-
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consistently with the duties of his °like.
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SOLICITOR GENTRAL, for abolishing cervein offices in the
petty bag in the High Court of Chancery, and for regulating
the practice of the common law
These bills were severally brought an- S read a first time.
The house adjourned at a quarter to 1 o'clock.

BOTAL BANK OP AUbTRAL7 eting of the
shareholders was called yesterday-, at the offices in Moor-
gate-street, but Its object was co niy to adjourn until news
arrived from Sydney, of whici., the directors are in daily
anticipatton.

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