The Express.
London, England, 1848-05-24 00:00:00

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MANCHESTER SALES, MAT 21.
Thus was • moderate business, a.,d prima gtnerally
w ere rather firmer.
Nab ,Nott., &U.S. la., 1 9.16 Los. k N. W. (M.
,and B. klin.)
ark., Lane., and Math. June., I C, 31
Do. p
1 1 d (Leeds B Dews. Branches
A 11. WWI Pref., 6 pet Ct., 3 3-16 Metres). 541
lrd
e, 2i 1 d
Rad. I&lntlee Prof., 6 pee cent., North StaMwdal
9-16 p North Union (A), 199
Lana. & Tort(W.R.ll.), 3 11-16 d aropehire Union, ti d
MD., Shea, sad Lin. Pref., i p 8. Eastern and Dow, ties. at
Do. (Shef. and Lin.),YSALES, Na
al I 1014, N
93.0. 4,11 11-19 S
ORK n
York, Nowa, sad Ben MlitailiOit Oreat Northern, 4
No. 1 Hats New Son), 11l 9 p I
PRODUCE.— MINCING-LANR, Half-past non.—
Them has not been a public solo to day, neither has the
ractre
been any bunions, done worth reporting by private cont,
as the Derby-day is Virtually kept as a holiday. 00 bags
China Suter utter; 2
hags Ceylon and 100 casks Jamaica
Coffeße3oo bags Cocos; 1,400 bags Saltpetr ; and 1,500
bags Bengal Rice are advertised for public sale to-morrow.
Duty paid on Soar to last week, in London, User I. eat.
Bristol, Ma. and the Clyde
To the war period last year ......•..^^1,931,421
.. 52,431

NOIN
Mail Pan or so& or 115411 vo Lair um 11
0,529 *,274
............ 1
2,114,797

thdot ...... ......... ...... 78.,700
Id! ................ .......... .... ............. 105,217
........... ..... 706,5;6

......... 13,771,060
13,511,699
----
Tweeds.
Imams &liveries from the lit of January to the 10th of )lay,
1141 sad 1817 ...- 1148 itt47
. ... . .....
. 13,891,00_ ... . 11,105,006 lb.
l'otel delivered .•
Imported
110
eel Oseetwies ..... 1A51,000 2,460,1
- ---.. 1,51P,030 -- 4,114,0'0

ems tine la 1147

U. tea. from I.ondos 10,3143,000 likisi
mom is at sums animas, 161$.
London 30,092.000
Liverpool
Ilrivtol
Mill sod akar &CIA rani 1,020,000
Gloodow .
Leith and other Soot& NM ....
Ireland ....
---
Stock, Aprll 30, ISSI . .....
Ditto Ditto,, 1847

CORN.—MARK-LAME.—Our market was more
thinly attended today than usual, even on a W•dnesday.
owing to Epsom Races. The little business transacted in all
ual to those
articles was at rates about eq of Monday list,
planting cargoes of Indian Cum were inquired fur, at full

priors.
ARRIVALS INTO LONDON FROM 22nd MAT TO 24th MAY. 4
Qr a. kn2elesh. Scotch. Irish. Foreora.
Wheat .40 I ............ StO'i
ttsriey
, .
Oat&
Flour. 1,8 A weirs; barrel'. Malt.
HULL, /day 23 —With the exception of an occasional very
acceptable shower, and on one occasion • few hours heavy
thunder rain, we have bad another week of tine weather,
and the country a,sumes a moat luxuriant and promising ap-
pearance. There have only been trifling transartioes pa.*
log in Wheat, and less disposition towards Spring Corn, so
that on the whol.• the operations of the week is every article
have been but limited. We have many complaints of want
of rain. We had for this day's market a m,derate supply of
Wheat from our own farmer.; condition and quality very
excellent, and the price demanded and acceded to much the
same as last week. There was a good show' of foreign
Wheat, which met only slow sale at the turn under last
week's rates. The arrival of Barley is Barley is large, and,
except for grinding purposes,
limited. the demand very
11,niah of good quality may be had at 2Ss. to 29,
No transactions in Osta for lack of sellers. Be ins quite as
dear ; .mall new are offered at 3.51. to 3G.. per qr. ot 631 be.
Peso without variation. Indian Corn, o
f. prime white qua
lity, may be had at 325. per qr. of 4801 b, and Meal at 14..
per barrel of lfiGlbs. There is less Linseed offering than of
late, and the market rather stiffer. Linseed Cakes without
change. pircel of Rapeseed has been sold at 261 per last.
Rape Cakes ectrce, and in request. Bones are 6s. dearer.
Irawiett, May 23.—This market is to-day fairly supplied
with Wheat, which is taken pretty freely, at last w, eV.
rates. But little Barley on offer ;no difference to be noted
in this article. Beans and Peas have now pretty well disap.

LEEDS, May 23.-We are moderately supplied with
Wheat ; the trade is firm, with a fair sale, at Friday's rates.
Barley slow. Oats and Beans fetch fully as much money.
Other articles as before. Average price of grain: Wheat,
475. 111 ; arle, ss.
Wheat, 11d. ; Oats, 225. sd. ; Beans, 365. 6d.
Arrivals this weey 3 k 6,131; Oats, 675 ; Barley, 558 ;
Beans, 1 736.
LEI, it7OV BLEZARD, May 23.-Of Wheat there was a
fair at erage supply ..ffering, and, although trade was dull,
still last wetk's prices were fully maintained.s
andthoug in short supply, was sutlicieat for the demand,
le per qr. cheaper Beans and Peas the turn d . Wheat,
per load of 6 busheis, 275. to 31s. Barley. malting, 31s. to
341. per imp. qr. ; grinding, 28s. to 31s. Bea
25ns, old, per 6
bushels, 29.. to 315.; new, 255. to 275. Peas, .. to 28s.
LEWES. May 23.-Wheat met steady sale at last week's
prices; the supply moderate, bat arrive. Oat.. Biwa' and
Peas scanty, and but little inquired alter. Wheat, white,
111. 10.. to 121.; red, 101. 10s. to 111. Si. Barley, none. Oats,
20s. to 21s. Beans, 31s. to 365. Peas, 36.. to 375.
LIVERPOOL, May 2.1 -The entries into this port, during
the week ending yeaterd .y furnish a moderate supply of
Wheat, Melt, Oats, and Flour, coastwise and from Ireland ;
but little thence of other produce ; the only imports worth
naming from abroad comprising 25,958 qn. of Indian Corn,
with 1130 barrels Indian Corn Meal, against 21,841 quarters
of the tamer, and 7,219 barrels of the latter, xpurt.d within
the sam time, almost wholly to Ireland. The ample rates
noticed e
in our last r..port cow inued to prevail here,
more or leis, until the morning of yesterday, and, by
our present whines, appear to have been diffused in
same degree over many otner parts of the United Kingdom;
and the weather bring now very tine, the crops in this cirri..
of the cauwry are progressing Si leanly as possible. At our
muk. t this morning, the advances obtained for the lower
tit:tale:es oi Wheat on Friday was maintained, and in a few
cases slightly exceeded, the improvement applying generally
to other eescriptiuns • the demand, however, was certainly
less active, and the sales on the whole only moderate. Flour
was held Gd. per sack and 6.1. per barrel higher, with a
limited sale at the amcedment. Upon a limit. d quantity of
Barley at hand, few parcels were sod 1, and the value of this
grain, as well as Malt, remained unvaried. Beans and Peas
sere rather more saleable at an advance of ls. per quarter.
Oats were taken less freely on the terms last noted.
Oatmeal, notwithstanding, was in tolerable request,
and realised Is. per load over last wick's rates.
Indian Corn continuing to meet a very eager demand for
Ireland, our (potations are increased ss. per 480 lb. above
the currency of Tuesday tut; and in C.,rn Meal the trans.
actions have been extensive at 14e 6d. per barrel. Accounts
?waved ti is morning, per steamer, dated New York 10th
inst , state, that awing to deficiency of water in the canal,
supplies of all Grain and Fleur had come forward in very
Bailed quantity for :he moment ; Wheat had advanced 10
to 11l cents. upon the rates of the 2nd instant; Indices Corn,
2 to 3 cents. par bushel; and Wheat Flour 60 cents per
bend. Little business was then eracticablo for ex.
ports, though freights continued exzee tingly low, and
exchang: 10 to 11. The promise ot the growing
crops tgrids is most favourab:yro described.
LYNN, May 23.-A moderate supply of Wheat, which
was takot pretty freely, at 46,. to 4es. tor fillas. to
red, slid 50s to 52a. tor white. Oats ls. per stone. Beaus,
365. to 405.
PLYMOUTH, May 23.-The weather cantinins fine and
favourable for vegetation, which cause' millers to buy
Wheat sparingly, and toe trade is dull. Prices unaltered.
SALISSURY, May 23.-The hest dac,iption of red and
white Wrieat maintained former rates. Barley was dull in
sale; io some instancis the turn in favour of the buyer.
Oats were offered on last week's terms, but 6d. per qr.
reducteni was submitted to.
Sr. Ives, May 22.-Tee Wheat trade to-day was a little
brisker, the price realised was from 61. to Is. per load better
than lest week. Barley much the same.
DANTEIC, May 15.-The uncertainty of the question
whether our port would be blockaded by the Dines, was
received on Saturday, by an eftwial declaration of that go•
verement, that only Stettin, Wedges; and Cumin, are to
remain so, and that other ports are to have free intercourse
by 'monist vessels In ennsequence of this, several Dutch
and British vessels have already arrived, which has had such
an intlu Dee on our market ( which was so depressed the end
of last week, that g-aol mixed fitln. would have been oh-
Minable at 355. to 36i ), that to-day 170 last of the implies I
were immediately cle.veil at 37.. to 365. for god and fine I,
mixed, 601 b. ti 611 b. It is t erre d the,. farther supplies will
shoals arrive, and among them some high mire', which has
hitherto been almost totally wan'ing The first buy Wheat
was offered today, but it was only common mixed, 611 h. to
641 b.. and not for sale below 40s. 150 lasts were mild to spe-
culators, 59:b. mixed, at 33.. to 35r. A vessel of 2,000 qrs.
has been chartered for Londoe, et is. 9d., to be filled with
consignments.
MANUFACTURERS.- HUDDER,PIPLD, May 23.
--Our Piece-hall this morning by no means exhibits the
same degree of activity it did last week. or for two or three
weeks previous. The amount of business done to-day is very
small, and prices very low.

WOOL. -- HUDDERSFIELD, May 23.—We have
been more busy in this branch of our trade since our la-,t re-
port. A fair quantity of C ilonial Wools, at prices from Is.
to Is. ed. per lb., has found buyers. The prices of Colonial
Wads have ranged from Id. to 2d re lb. lower eince the
sales.

tt
il th:B4dee
end,
d. noble
rati
and reasonable foundeiion for the returns which he was competition of isaactiintetriy.irn. MbettwanTrchnh)eirte.uhiToridioirniihnretotordiniagite of a
about to move for-which returns, if granted, would in his rural talk trade in the iteighbeurneod of London, in Ewa
and I me
opinion Trade,
thwrg all eit." volt:lit= the
d,„ ."..%cti., lh:Tlytoehthte vidO,u'ar d:
ha- :it
snit
a. rmiel,,l. :at,: a,lrifi:ebhislir:ter.:-.or.
ndyi fffeorre:t.es:
ep,ouf , u:ivp,i
dor
of the
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ash dto do. He begged ro moo sweeten to avoid teem. There is als • room f t dlf r I erne. of
Return., showing the qumeitiee and priest., duty paid, of Canadian opine. as to whether the ileum+ in Spitalfields is ea ~,,
efer
otr bf.
rep3esren..,,,'
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t. ti
blitite:rrnia defi
eseLor elf (Hear,
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wo
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isfadt:4l, t 0 tiu.a.:thevirearaiber,shoseeldwidiartibritbyng]hibigt::b:c.,..r.seltr.ci,dr4l7:),:§74,otie.,,..:oknoin4.ltwith,;:,,puy..,v,
;c4rizgrnalitz
1... by.
,::lo,airiedirlciito,iuptlh,..d.rt:nt:yoteliEr:reotl:34:4, Kingdom, aced
a:nnd:,:i7t3in:':B4"lB:2•l4::°"lfltal:e47llB.:-
-redhi
.atieurril.haFt:autichfadad
alike
:rives:
it,ittnslt;ihbtr,,,hosmitats,isliiiii,tandzh
al r4trilei!,and.r.qlaill,d,walki,sa,,,,:thhp.cica hitati,inisialy:
on which such reductions ma wend been ma& lik .1.43817, and
noble them w ith an aversge of years free ballnd
would not have altered the gent tal thara 4
the qu *Mims, In pound., rd ra wwue slit imported, exported,
and ounsurned at home, In the years 1844 and 1815, as
I teeth the statem nt bre u 1 A log
aserage annual quantity conouned at Inane m etch pertod ; that ge• - ,es -s- - men- it pre.
Tniiin7litiill:l7ohia":"::;ihinroani:rth,trot:lrrd.n7ot:tuohfrYl4:i l".
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4.1;11.1;7.,:e10'hd.d. :
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nil
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lenli
svq:7lg,:...L. i,;:be:k.
ihealtb4.,:lteat.T6i., I
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c. v....,
that
the
...Neter
lord
1 and all other gruel. not enumerated in the truth• aril nay oration re-
the four months ervling
compare.' with DM and 1845. This he thinks a tri 'at
d hthick th
nibs of lii4i, lit 46, and PAD. Continuation of tto much of return No. bu' 0, s e at there are name
never any ms to ho.
I itseurnPthimdal7 otriMi/vM, Itehleti,Vei.tm'r loit.""rir tart': the c trteapuuding throw
coo
mo
re el 1 . then years afford a Gar sample of reel
17s ordered the 6rti day of Yebrunry 10411, to the Ist week In January Men affairs independent of human legishe lob ? (Mem
MK as relates to the prima and importation of foreign and colonial htni,e,ais,,,dr.ckunt7tdtVialiiiryl.e4l74:na,(,tylieleaharras,oafheylnix.,:npf
...,psledmiti,hspetrospnrptijoatiyloi
jtvu.'
Umber, and the 'whichnationdt he atop. in whi hWe wins was int.
ported, and the crews by they wire ,stand. Also, a continua-
ti nk that
ttetatniadof
aretaatuarnat,Naoh.,l,lMtadaonana,tohtaliertra,fdli
otlajwctd,„Aut.enilinln4o..ll,
numbers
sel.dnid-
toot nf the clettoma depart went, and err centser cunt of cullecuou °owe. state ce the silk trade ?
and
was net 1848 a em,
quent upon reduction of enemata duties in 0110 of Imre envied eelamity, and 1847 one of leaguer mad;
The motion having bet n seconded nod pit from the chair, premier., hemming from one end ot it to the otner. (Hear,
Mr. GLADSTONE rope and paid,-Sir, I fully concur in bear ) What elees the noble lord? He takes ten y oi
10 much of the noble lord's speech toe i• eumpri.ed in his unexampled prosperity,
ted t and two
bet so wof anexemple lava,
assertion that he thinks he less sufficiently shown what a and depression, admito ithout prof ference to
very great degree of Mamma exists at thi- moment in this tree trade or legishitium and from these he draws his coa-
countty. Indeed I think it might very fairly br questioned elusion.. I say, on the other hand, that if ,nti Vint a
whether any particular steternent or aegum nt was remired jum comparison, you must Cumnore the eircurr.statmes of
to make out the noble lord's p maim. But I differ entirely the years sines the change took pose, its as et.
from the noble nor: in he as-anion that be he* tend, d period previous to tne change, ani then
shown the dinners which prevail' can he referred you will have the average which the noble hire
to the recent course of le_islaUme. Nothing could he more calls my theory, but which I am repare4 to stand by.
slender than-I will tot sae the profs-hut the attempts I show dby my statement that the talk trade wan M a "Ma-
he has made to connect that damn. .ith the legislative pro- fectury state, not an compared with a year of excitement, ben
cm dings of this country. The nettle lord has referred to the as compare I wi.h a fate average of years. I Vowed tin:
state of the lace tea e at !limns/theta, and stated that an there sage great increase of the silk trade in every branch,
i,edevidual of the remise of Broths had given • very tearful by . very way in which its condition could he tooted. 1
picture of the distress buff red rty the people in that neigh- mowed that, whereas the average importation torten year.,
huurhoutl; and the noble lord strait d that Mr. Brooks had from 1834 to 1843, et rare -ilk, the material on which Britialt
given it as his opinien that the distr.a of the people was labour is employed, Wan 3342,0 OMs , the mean ifilpeeta.
a *butsble to the legiseoure, and upon that dictum the time far 1846 47 was 4,26.5,000 ;foe ahowing an Menem of
noble lord had found the Parliament guilty of false legisla- no lean than 52.3,000 ins. or somethlng like 17th of tee whole.
tion. But not another word that, the, opinion of Mr. Brooks It wan penemly true that at the mem time the importation
hoe the noble lord u teed, in or.ler to connect the distreas of Mr •wn silk had increased 265.3711 b, , but this was only
of the Lace make,* of No tiogham with the recent legilla- a lumber teidition made to the sloe, tit materials with white
time of parliament. W g
ait is my ees. nt purpos to do is to British lemur was to be employed. I wale there hod been
refer to Die noble lord's tter:or me
ti impugn the statements a mut* larger imp•ertauon of thrown silk la convert into
1 which I nave formerly made in this hone . R fore Idoso I must Driteth manufeesure d go see. Is this large Menem
lie allowed to state generally that if the noble lord in right to 200,0001'5. on an everege of teo
the yean to
to rd ea
'in the views which he takes in respect to free trade, then he look. d upon as an evil ? Woat does noble
'is justified in his endeavour to make the tell-Inure retrace with us to understand? We heard him mask of apart
its steps; but if the nos is lord is wrong, then I must be acute'. kind of gum!' admitted into Me easern• house, mif
allowed to tell him, that instead of doing good by his pro- •I.
Tr. ign fleet were sweeping the Thames or a foreign army
ceetlings be is inflicting a very serious iujury on the industry threatening invasi en. he noble lord spate with a triad of
and labour of the county, by leading the people, on his imininctive horror of the arrival of cononneitirs f ram Mired,
authority, to "scrims their misery to this cause, as if he thought we should send army, nosy, awl mum,
and to - Ink for an alleviation in a change which emaine them. Does the noble 1 rut see no tiope for our do-
he is not able to bring shout. (Hear.) I will now, [nestle trade except in universal and uncompromising anti.
however confine my olmervetious to two subjects which the potty among all the natiens of Europe ? I Bear, hear.) It
noble lor'el has mentioned-aim, ly, to my former statements ii true that there has been an Menem el 1110,000 his. is the
with respect to bile and timh• r. As to the noble lord." re- inmert of manufactured articles, but there leas elm bees an
marks on the timber trade, I coil Fat 1 have not been able to increase . f 629,0001b5. in the import of raw and throws iii
gather what it was he meant to say. Will he commit him- tor the employment of British labour. (Hear, hese) Nov,
sell to a distinct motion ova this subject, en that we may fairly summating this impartation of foreign goods to be • calamity,
meet his arguments and statements ? Will the neble lord, may Minim to the scourge of weir, yet surely KIN
instead of resorting to vague, unintelligible declanistionn, cumpetisation may he Menu in Me In 1 that tor every pea
give ti
the opportunity of matting hem, by putting his of tureign goods imported three or tour p.unds of raw am.
views into the shape of • definite proposition ? What the terial come in for the employment of
British labour. (Hem
noble lord means to sny, &mordent( to my seprehension, in, halm) Bat the noble lord had another point, which was
that the colonial timber trade of Great Britain has fallen thin. lie complained that 1 bad nut referred to the extent
into ruin under the ogislative measures of me That was
Inca th. fact. The noble lard may not have herd
right honourable friend the member for eamwortla me, hut
If that is the noble lord's meanine, it is intelligible ; and I But is the nuble lord homile to expors. Dors he regret tint
',el to ask him whether th it in what he meant to assert ? under the pressure of competition the British manufacture
The noble lord says that I wits iucorrect in a statement has been atilt able to do • little in the way of exponential
which I made respecting the price of timber, and that I was Ido n t know how the noble lord can make Ma Mask any
SILO wrong in core dine him ae to the prices of timbre. But way auxiliary to his argument. On the cantrary, I think a
both the noble lord ant myself were right, fur the would go to prove the good effects of OUT commercial lament
prices to which we referri d war,' them of different periods, nom If you hate increan d consumption of for ego mom
and tor that reason I am a ary I ever stated that the noble you give your customer. abroad increased means of dealiag
lord was grimily igeorant on the auleject ; for the fact is, that for your own. If you have an inemease in the supply of the
he was right in his statement of the price of timber at the raw material, you have augmented means tit employing
time to which he referred. But the change in the prices British labour. Thus • liege increase en the ix/amused*
of commdities and articles of consumption is not a fair re silk g ode by the Brent, people stems in them increased
ground of argument at the prettent moment. The country means of minion and enjoy meat Lastly, I wilt add that
is in a mate
het collapse ; ani, as tar as the noble lord is con even with a deen-ased duty you have a small increase d
cerned, is perhaps rieht in his tactics, in revenue. The revenue on site gomis, which front 1834 to
having chosen to select his prices under such a 1843 averaged 220,000/ , wan in 1846-47 a mean ef 213,00 N.
state of affairs. But, 1 centers+, I nu ver was more solo- I think, therefore, I have disposed of the objection of ths
Mailed than when the noble lord found fault ankh me for ham melee lord as to the mode in which my. average wss takes.
mg taken an average of 10 years to serve as de to the There is not much more on which it will be necessary that I
prices of silk, and the noble lord styled the results my tkeo- should trouble the house, but there is one part of the noble
ries. (No, no) aim; I say the made lord distinctly said lord's speech which I cermet help referring to. It iota'
that against my theories he would set his facts; and noble lord's practice, when he mentions any qua
tit
of
lie collects his facts from pen° Is of great depres- foreign goods imported, to compute the number of Brune
teen, and contends that they are complete answers individuals which their manufacture would employ, and I
hi my ges cull. meet during periods of ten yeah presume infers from this that if they were not imported to
Take ale . the same average* of the pri of timber during many individuals would be employed in this country.
• series of yearn, arid they will completely disprove the noble Fur Instance, he said that fereign ailli goods were imported
lord's amertions. lie soya that ruin to the timber mart to the amount of half • million shim the re amens:emend
chants hes been n. quut upon Die cange made in the the year, teed added that this would give emplmentto
Imes since 11444. coo I
wall r
te t the nettleh lord'as assertions in 61.000 persons-the noble lord did not say tur howoy long a
two ways. First, as to price, taking that upon at average ; time.
and secondly, as to quantity impoth d before and after the Lord G. BENTINCK : For one year.
alteration in the law. I select Liverpool aa the port Mi. GLADSTONEdangerous thing to contest
Iron) which these averages can best he selected, that camulations on the spur of the mom nt, but I doubt wry
being the greatest mart for this article of import. Due much whether that ranoant of geode would afford wages to
Mg the three years 1840, 1811, and 1812, the price of timber 64,000 persons for a year. But what I eish to point ont n
was 2+. Old., the duty being 20. a metre Mot. The duly the •gross fallacy which tics at the bottom of this 'memento,
was repealed in 1842. Theretore Me overage price during namely, that these goods, if not imported, would be pro
three years was Is. 10d. per cubic foot. During the six doted at home (Hear, hem) Why, on this principle
years extendit•g from 1842 to 1848 the price of timber was what the noble lord says would be applicable to everything
Is. 91. againm 1.. 10d. Therefore, the entire reduction in which comes from a foreign country. Tne noble lord
price by which tim noble lord contenda the colonial timber might point to the wines et France, aitd calculate the raw
wrowers were ruined, amounted to 1.1. per cubic foot out of her of people that might be employed its cultivating hot-house
22d. Again, with reap ct to the quantity of timber im- grapes; or to sugars, and say that with tho aid 01 slat and
ported from British North America, I will take the other appliances thousands might find work in its home pro-
returns furnished by the circulars of a Liverpool house, auction. (Hear, hear.) Ido not keels whether the nage
for these before anti six yearn alter the year 1842 ; lent in his preregrinatiorm for communal information has
end show that six years belore the changes in the tim- ever taken ',voyage in the penny steam-boats which take the
her duties were made the tonnage of chips employed in this people of London from London-bridge to Lambeth. If be
trade averaged annually 152,000 tons ,- hut in the six years hm, he naght say that them boats, manned by five or az
eubsequent to the dot es b-ing hover, d the amount of ton- persons, each brings up and down the river bOO to 1,000
nage was 181,000. Now, what will the noble lord say to persona, and thus do the work of pollutes a bandied
that ? Has th•
British clonial tradebeen ruind or even waermen. (Hear, hear.) I with the 'noble lore could
injured by thise change inn the law % I b
will note t follow the be brought to serutiaise his own principle', awl sse
nohle lord through his statements with respect to the foreign where they would end. lam persuaded that he despot;
trade in timber. Ile asserts that the price of but Ido not apprehend any great mischief from them. I
Baltic timber has risen 11.. a load since the thine that the bit is in the noble lord's mouth, if be will
duty on that clam of timber has been reduced permit me to say so, and that his doctrines are not likely to
1 really would recommend the noble lord to inquire, with all have much effect on public opinion at the present day. II
the diligence which he shows in investigating them matters, they were to make any ground-if the parliament of Gast
ana for which nu man is more inclined to do hint honour than Britain were to place itself under the guidaues of the noble
I am, how much of the increase in the price of foreign tiro- I rd in economic legislation, I fear that (Chien only result to
h• risto be accounted for lay the gradual rise in freightle, the country would be beggary and ruin. .)
maimed by the lame amount of shipping attracted into the ' 14r. NEWDEGATE expremed his surprise that the right
made during the last seven Tears. I find in the report or
hon. gentleman, having taken so large a space of time from
tee committee on the navigation, and from the evidence of which to :eke his first average, should have taken only two
Mr. iii. F. Young, that the increase of frsighton Bal is timber yearse on the other aide with which to contrast it. Now, two
in no lea than 7s. 6.1. a load. If that be true, ight hun. gentleman taken the two previous troth,
the premium enjoyed ha the foreign v
- rGdue" would have found that the imports of silk had been loan
is no more than 3s. 01. per load-a very aniall amount, those two ye-at a only by about 4,593 lbs. than that of the pro
indeed, to accrue to him out of the immense reduction of the
years since the reduction of the duty. The right hon. MTh
duty, amounting, I believe, to 40a. per load. This premium tlernan cheered this-then why did he quote those two yeas
is surely moderate enough. It we wish him to increase his as such a favourable instance of the reduction of the duty?
%unpile, for the British commerce, we must Retard him some Why did he omit the two preceding years.
premium tor his exertionn. (Hear, hear.) Formerly, there Mr. GLADSTONE could not tied the returns for those
Was an attempt to heat him altogether out of the market. yeas.
We have induced him to increase the supply to an enormous Mr NEWDEGATE-The right hon. fang would
extent. The impartation, which in 1841 amounted to 130,000 have feund the information in the returus moved y the
lda. had increased in 1847 te 420,000 lo Mem that the su eV hon. member for Liecipool. (No.) At ad events he toil
finhe Ili Binh public of a merrier article had been n early Me bl ' have found there the returns for the first of the two min
and netwithstaneling this enormous extension, it would cep- omitted; and it was to be supposed that the right hon. tee
pear that nearly nine-tenths of the benefit has been realis, tieman, in making such statement", would at least have
by the British puttee while only 4s. or ss. per load has been availed himself of those means of information whinier,
the gain of the foreigner. (Hear, bear.) Ilaving said that open to all hon. members. But now how stood the faa
1 fecund great difficulty in detecting anything like a
• The noble lord had brought before the house • stemmed
brond tangible statement in the speech of 1.1,c noble showing that the most severe distress existed in variouspotf
lord as regarded the timber trade, and having in of the kingdom; and he (Mr. Newdegate) wished to mll
Nano ant meted since he sat down to pin bed to
ea attention to the state of the district with which he was eon'
a proposition upon which he might bon
ribbon trade, were at this time in such • state as to be a can'
saying that I do not think he is entitled to snow that our
nail, I shell drop that part of his argumen put
e mener-ery
polled to live on carrots. In Coventry they bad beenober
cmonial timber trade is in a state of ruin, in cone quence in nectea. The people there, who were engaged in the acme
to subscribe 1,0001. in addition to Mu loge increase a
the changes which have recently been effected in the eons- the poor rates, and in seven weeks 40,000 loaves haul
menial laws of this country. I think I am - entitled been distributed to save the people from starvation. Salt
to amen that dote measures were liberal, ag re- .
scriptions land been set on toot there, and Mother plseesiatte
Keeled the colonists, while the effect has been same district, to which the right hon. baronet (Sir It. in
to simply But public with a better article than had liberally contributed. (Hear, hear.) In 'Nuneaton elte
that which they had been before obliged to use. The si,
poor rate had increased by one-fourth during the past tea;
with regard to the silk trade-and here let us understand
did not know how the people were to survive. When Met
minds of the house-he had, I think, on a former speechcaper
what it is which the noble lord is anxious to impress on the
saw these things following immediately upon a great
ea
refereed to the distress of the Spitaltields weavers in 1843. 1 and if the presaure of tlistress continued km another mole
and financial legislation they could not but co:Alder tbit
the alterations in the silk duties, and now the noble
objected to the citation of that mar, because it was before
that legislation wee amongst the causes. (Hear, 10' '
lord Mills fault with me far that ohjsetion, and says meat and the introduction of •a novel "astern of mom
the law was changed in 1842. Yes, there was a reduction of t. mast
he people were not speediiy taken they __,
1 per cent. in the duty on thrown silk, and a considerable
expect violent changes of some kind or ofsut
d lei
reduction in the duties on India goods. Aud lie believed that if some inearUrell to TO!
and, perhaps, the subversion of the institutions
Lord G. BENTINCK-Two shillings the pound. country.
Mr. GLADSTONE-Well, the noble lord finds fault with
the reduction of duty in 1812 or he does not. Is that the , over-stated his came as to the inereane in the impo
pot 50
ra.
experiment in tree trade on which he wishes to bestow hie silk, by omitting to deduct the amount exported, • :;,;,
censure ? withstanding this, there was still a great Me cm! t ,n
Mr. GLADSTONE explained that be bad, heribeliawl-atr
Lord G. BENTINCK- It is matter of fact. averace quantity of raw and thrown silk importereaT
Mr. GLADSTONE-The noble lord has to-night been and 1847, as compared with the average imports I
busy in drawing inferences from matters of fact, in a manner preceding years.
the most slight and trivial, but I wish to know whether he • gir 0.
connects the distress in the silk trade with the changes in noble lord that there had been distress in Spielonere;
1812, or not ? The noble lord has no right to take both other places in which the silk manufacture SS Car'',
sides of an argument. When I said before, that he should before any relaxation took place in our commartafa
CLERK reminded the hon. gentleman ...11J. at
not take 1845, because the changes in the silk duties had net The noble lord had said he found no parallelote th alur;al
then taken place, he replied that the duty on thrown silk of 1847 since 1841, referring to the number fSereefuhraaa
in endeavouring to show the decay of the silk trade, he takes year before any change in our commercial aneera• to
en tooth'hose War.
18IG and 1447 as his criterion of the state of trade under
hethe hear.) But were there not circumstan_ , ge
and ou India goods had heen reduced in 184'2 ;
alteration in the law. Anti what • flourishing penal se- which might account for the distress ? Bo SO eaaea
but to-night, as English bankruptcies in that year. But lesmailit,
lens for contrast with those years. Why, the years 1844 1817 this country laboured under a moat seven
h„di:7 ia
and 1815, which he contrasts with 1816 std 1847 were the of providence. There heel been deficienft an, et...T.g
eery years which, in a former speech, he selected,'
to show the latter period the utter failure o
m.o.
oarau
the distress as compared with lie period of 1842. food and the partial failure. of all ki 44
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the ""-
repreaents me from beginning to end. (A laugh.) which had begun to show itself at .
or had been checked heal
Loud G. BENTINCK-The right hon. gentleman mks- Another consideration was thm-that the jel mi.
Mr. GLADSTONE-I am in the hands of the house. I meneement of chi, ye.
B ven sull the °v
eld find that the home trade was everywhere. tem
but certainly I have nut misrepresented bis words. I may lord would
th nut year, and in none more so than 1.02.;
do not mean to travel again ever the noble lord's statement, events of the continent. ut e ma
have misrepresented his intention and his meaning, because bilk now eta
Ma ont ash-
ed th number of cotton rail , mei
quoted correctly. (Hear, hear .
•) Now with respect to the from which he stat e one
"'a-
ll th silk ills were working except out, ,agg
statement I formerly made as to the condition of the hat ae. in lo end.Witt;lof either he is the sole judge, but his words I have certainly silt trade. The noble lord would find, M the ea-CM
statement, endeavouring toe did to include all the elements proof could er lie of t!1,..e V.F;c, vt'ion to the tiguto of de
silk trade in 1842. No ono could make a fairer mill in winch only 22 perm.. na w_ere_er,mtyp
ayany
mot. _
of the questiou. As to the trietrear in Spit.-:li 1.1, it is a then that': there
in t tam' 1,
who,
la nicitKi or
ler/ pot Tuition how ter a :ugat to be eaerioetl 19 the was. ataalact lug Way