The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-28 00:00:00

ais eas, that while eight Boma (*ikons towns in th:
both of imbed paid ministers' messy, the protestant north
was
else wholly thempt hoer its marbles. (Hear, bear.)
? Beams whin the an eras refold is the reign of
Queen Aaae, it was knows that the veiniest &treaters
geoid set submit he the impost ; but the catholic, of the
bath having hest esamislerip grand lbws. and their very
Marfa argaraelka, rls dais wee baistressi their seeks
m ea additheath mum et allialkiag them to the
ealiallbei Chubb He was surprised that the Irish
MOM" 11/106.101214 to OWN to that licale to ask for
amenal albs is been I. their plate le would have
aelsewhere, sac Ia sea a voles as would bap'
lltry sad the people et England to anent to its re-
with It was no sewer to my that the ammeat Is dispute
esayloo,oool. What was the sasemat @salad which
jahrt asearba lad shut: !altar, bear,) There was
dee et the as as Begtish mem-
garrt heat %seat, sad that was the paragraph
le while their aid Mead per massidalled taad was callarl ua
tieZt a sababths. Itemised as it that was the pool of
la whisk all there Irish cripples were dipped.
Emil bugbear.) For his part, he would abolish the
at ease, wheat say eubstitste. (Hear, hear )
was • Beam esthelis asaatry, especially
the south, and ea what protean could they in
the basteenth century all for provision for protestant
piton frail a catholie people ? (Hear, hoer.) At that re,:
meat there was it ems of the southern towns a clergymtv,
was was • 'anent beat the Boman Catholic church. preach-
ing the meet Admit sestariaa eentoes. He (Mr. Osborne)
god himself heed lima call the people vagabonds from the
pulpit, and vet this geetlansa was a recipient of ministers'
insaey. (Hear, hear.) Ti. hon. and learned member for
Duthie accused those who supported this moths of a design
te mailable the protestant church la Ireland. Well, a Ir.
ably, it the proteeteat church was merely a thing of pounds,
amp, sad peace, the womb it went the better. (Hear,
hem) But he had a s• mere faith In the durability
et the protestant church that had the honourable and
bathed member for Dublin. He believed that if
the amigregattoual systems which he advocated were
adopted, the A stablished church would arum@ an expansive
character. to which it could sever aspire under the present
system. The reason why he supported this motion was be-
cause he looked upon it as the first step tiwards a reform of
that system which he held to be a di.graes to the civilised
world. It was • step in the d reenact to whisk her llsjieste'd
present ministers had shown as strong an iselisatims to 11136,
bat whisk, hoer that day down to the present, they had
ocrupuloosly avoided. (Load seise et" Hear, hear.") The
time of the house hail latterly beset taken up in pram)
habeas empes suspension and treason la acts, hat why
bad there been so bill brought in so remove this crying grief,-
ahra ? (Hear.) One of the moat illustrious Roman Catholics
of the present day the right bon. member for Dunparvan
bad drawn op the report (of the sainistm'neouey eommittt e),
that report had been acquiesced is by a majority of the com-
mittee, and if it was not to be a mere mockery it sliculd
immediately followed by a bill. (Selz, hsar.l All he should
farther say wag that if neither government, nor any esthelfe
Somber brought forward the gentles of the grievarnee
arising out or the church establishment in Ireland, he
pledged himself to do so at en early day, and he could rot
rite a greater proof of his since:hydra* by giving his vote
lea favour of the present motion. (Hear, hear.)

eters', who had absolutely refused to visit the sick poor be-
cause typhus prevailed. He was not one of those who wioted
to strip the protestant church of its pomeasions, hut to strip
it edits vices sad its errors, and to allow it to stand on its own
pare foundation and in iu beautiful aimp kitty, nor did he
Walt it would be in the least endangered by taking from its
own resources the paltry sum nunnery for the payment of
them its own clergymen, but the oarsman% of which from
the catholic* was as Nudes and en basalt to them.
(Hear. bear.)
Sir J. YOUNG observed that the hoe. gentleman who
last spoke bad expressed • desire to place the truth Wks
the house ; but in doing go be seemed to have forgotten
what Mks Edgeworth bad said : that he who exaggerated
truth or slated it in false colours, was a traitor to the cause
of truth. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. baronet (Sir G.
Grey) had rooted the recommendation of the committee.
but the house should be aware that that report was carried
by a majority ef five against • minority of four. (Hear.)
Therefore, whatever weigh: was due to that report—and he
admitted that It wee considerable—Use opinion of the minority
shield not wholly be thrown aside. The great difficulty was
to And • substitute for the tax they proposed to &belie&
That it was a grievance to the protestant clergyman to re-
ceive his stipend ie this way, especially when the claim was
resisted and had to be enforced, as well as it was to the
Catholic t o pay it, was admitted, but no other source
sit of which such stipend could be provided had been
toned. The second report of the committee stated that mi-
nisters' money was not a charge on the person, bat on the
property, and formed part of the property of the established
church ; and it did not appear to them that any noon had
been shown for relieving the owners who had come Into
possessive of their prcp..r y subject to this impost from the
Serge. if it were to be given up it would, like the 25
per ems. which had been surrendered under the tithe cam-
mutation set, go into the landlord's pocket.
Mr. GRATTAN.—They have not had • penny of it.
Sir J. YOUNG.—The second report farther suggested
that • power of redemption should be given, and a fund thus
oreated.hut it condemned the proposition for taking the money
Ins the lands in the heads of the Ecelesisical C,mm4
denim is the ground that those tends were placed in their
heads fur certain specific purposes and trusts; sad until
these trusts were completed, any diversion of any part of the
money to other objects would be • breach of fail'. Another
pr.-posit on that was made befits the committee was that &
new valuation of the property in the towns shield be sod%
and that the rate should be levied en such revaluation he
the ministers' money, for the payment of the Rotas sada..
lie clergy, and for . other purposes. That probably wee as
fair a suggestion as had been put forward. Thought hoe.
baronet std that the Consolidated Fund was 'Sailed to as
the means of providing the fund ; but in the second report
the alinsi n to the Consolidated Fund was made as being
the only means by which the landlords who were liable
could hope to shirt their burden to other shoulders. He
(Sir J. Young) had voted against that proposition; and
with regard to the press .1 motion, looking upon it, as the
right hon. gewleman had said, as an omit courier to an
attack on the protestant church establishment of Ireland
generally, he thought the government were right in the
count they took. Within a few years the protestant clew
of Ireland had surrendered one-third of their property, sod
no wise government would re-open the quail in. (Hear.)
Mr. D. CALLAGHAN, who was very indistinctly heard,
reminded the house that almost every one of the witness.
beloagisg to the established church who were examined be-
fore the committee spoke is strong condemnation of this tat.
It was an impost levied in cows where the population wee
for the mat part catholic, where few protestantsresided,aad
where it was not paid williegly nor without great ill-feelieg
and disrespect for the church for whose benefit it was exacted.
He hal always been opposed to taxation and every oil. r
spreies of compulsory provision for the support of the pro-
testant clergy. because so long as Roman catholic& paid
tithes and minister.' money they acknowledged servitude Is
the establishment. This compulsory provision was a dis-
pose to the church. It Ltd now been enforced for 'toy
many yi ais upon the majority for the sustentation of the
clergy of the minority ; but it was a manifest injustiee, end
would continue to be distasteful to the Irish people a hogs
it remained on the statute book.
Mr. RERSIIAW thought the sooner three discussions
were altogether abandoned in the house the letter would it
helot the country at large and for religion itself. (Hear.)
He agreed with those hon. members who believed
that the protestant church in Ireland was • %mi.
sante. (Cries of " Oh, OW) He said distinctly
that the protestant church of Inland, as by law established,
had felled to perform its Lesion ; and that if the house
would adopt the voluntary principle, the better would it be
fur that countsy and the protestant religion. (Hear, hear.)
He promised, while he had the honour of a Mt in the house,
to raise kis protest against the oppression of compelling the
eatholies of Ireland, who composed the majority of the In-
habitants, to pay for the chetah of the minority. He wee
happy to say that the voluntary principle was being tried in
England to a great extent among the noncom/matte, and
also by the members of the church of England ; that those
churches supported by it were the most prosperous in the
sentry ; and that it was an &beeline disgrace to be
eternally contending about we ptlf and money in regard
to religion.

air G. GREY regretted very much that the hon. member
Mr Middlesex, who had just addressed the home, bad ad.
dressed it in a spirit very different from that exhibited
by the mom, end also from the spirit in which the com-
mittee so highly solos-Lod by him had dealt with the guer-
illas. The Me. member stated that hie grounds for support-
iag the motion were that he wished to me the protestant
church in Ireland altogether abolished. (Mr. Osborne : Not
in the first instance.) Very well, not in the int instance.
The hos. member would save the rights of exlsting incum-
bents, bet would make the abolition of ministers' money •
sort of or oil cowries to the total abolition of the establish-
ment. (Boar hear.) The hoe. member would not have
the money levied from any other mum, but wished to ere
its collretion altogether suspended. But that was not the
spirit in which kis (Sir G. Grey's) right hon. friend
who had drawn up the report had dealt with the
subject. The report said, "Your committee think it right
to add that if a substitute is to he provided they do not coin-
cide in the view taken by the Dean of Limerick es to the
reduction of clerical incomes. They think that the remune-
ration given to clergymen is not greater than their functions
deserve, and they cannot conclude better then by quoting
the evidence of the Rev. Mr. Sullivan, a Roman cathclic
elergyman, who has resided many years in Cork. That
redone% when asked—Do the RlOlan catholiorof Cork
wish to see the clergymen of this establishment fully paid
answered, that, having been secretary to a relief committee,
be had bcea witness to the cordial feeling existing between
the clew of both denominations, and he believed
that U this cause of irritation were removed a very
bear Adel feeling would be created. It would aprear, then,
the what the committee wished fur, was not that these
dug men who were spendiag their incomes in eight or ten
*was in the south of Ireland should be deprived of those
Memo, but that a substitute less obj•etionable than minis-
ters' money might be foun I. Now, on this poke, he con-
flated that he agreed in much that had been said as to the
oblesUonable mode of payment. The inconvenience existed
aba is Scotland, where the payment of a small rate wee
egos to similar obit ctioe and had been made the subject of
I= t inquiry. lie was not prepared to inputs that
from which these imposts were levied was eh-
jeelleetable, and that they were painfully emmeeted
with the state of the poor. Several clergyman wbe
bed beset examined had expressed • mega Orin
thet some substitute might be found ; be, seleng
side the grounds taken by the hoe. member be Middlesex,
mad which he was afraid would predate some vets. against
the motion, his principal objection to the motion was, that in
the report no tangible substitute was suggested- It was
hypothetically stated that the funds in the hands of the
Ecclesiastical Commiesionere might at some future day pro-
vide a substitute. The report cautiously said " We believe
that the income of the commisrionere Is greater than their
expenditure, and that when certain secs fall in there will be
such an increase in the funds applicable to purposes to which
they ere at present by law restricted as will ri min
it not unjust that they should meet this additional
Marge." That was not, however, the ease at present,
and before the house was ealled on to abolish this
tax they ought to see out of what fund a substitute was to
be found. In looking through the report his impression
was that the Consolidated Fund was rather looked to by the
winnows. The Dean of Vmeriob suggested that the bur-
den should be placed en the Church Temporalities Act, hut
a clergyman of the &eon* dissented from that opinion.
That platinum (Mr. Elates) was an important wiener, and
his sehdtate was " some government fund, cay the Cons°.
Waled Fend." (Hem, hear.) Now, before be (Sir G.
Grey) could agree to this motto, he must be assured that
tbeCemelldsted Fund would not be called upon. If it
*odd appear es the result of fatam inquiries that the funds
be the hash of the Ecclesiastical Commissioneve showed •
surplus, that surplus might be applied to the removal of
this grievance, but as the report went so farther than to
ekeeet to the tax, be must way that be was not in • condition
to agree to its removal. With thee views, and net wishing
to meet the motion by • direct aege.ive. he Meal& content
himself by moving the previous question.
Mr. H. ORATTAN had been born • protests*. bred a
=t. bad very likely would die • prate Cant. (A
.71 11
Bat he preteseed against the ermagagate of the hon.
sad learned member for Dublin so washed abortions. A
IVOTM defense at a bad system he had aver !nerd either
has • lawyer or • member of paillament. The real
speedos wee whether as rafts w
e as Is asthma to be
perpetrated an a bedy tam. Here
was an Wand sot levied ca thellaSuselak2deneroded from
the smith of Inked. He eseteaded that there was no wet-
vies whatever dem for this . His be.. Mend bad
asatiosed the het that ia ldig there were in Ireland 60
eitureises, la width be the review three years ao
awns hail Mon whined. What • mockery was
to attempt le uphold seat a slain I The oars
tie wao, Wafts, is anises of miss were to be
caned upon to pay hr a meek atahlftmest ?
In one perish with will he was aegvalalek be his emu
meaty, there was • gasesame *molt wilt gran growing in
the door-way, its wafts* beam, and maid stemma over
be her ; It was, is feet, be • stag of eemgiste dilapidation.
And why ? Hessen then wore so peetostants to attend it.
In asotber eerie the.. wee but eftpeoluisat ; he had two
viva, awl they Idlied Ida. egfaer," and laughter.) Yet
tederlitast .uf ids
peak pill the inhabitants of
amp' the two wives—oft be ft sot haw whether
Him watOwithaest sr eathollo—wore saheb* drew an
Wefts of NM a r ; tousle which he, as the owner of
gl la the pal to eseallats dal fee what?
ion" eths nal elf We oasis whisk mesas. worth
swag after all. The seta there was go srZ
sae absurdity in such (Meet, hear.) He wweesYad
=heals and uphold the oshiitianst. not by soft mem
as *see. bat by moral prinapio, (Malden forlieg, sad
unhand charity. What meet be the Sidings if ear as-
*ft fellow-sable* wises they were Uhl in a'peaseleat
blimp that the asthma sehroloothoods scuffs &lifts
weft taught in their eft mede vim the sellien of the
do& could swam *Me eltinasift Immo net
limed Ho
osehoomod by the oftefts, use tome they ft-
gifts. dad what was the stallion of the mauls at this
assmost la essay of them wham from whist' probstant
motors were drawing largo at to speed fa Bath or
showitme ? Why, when they weal to they ware
Woad to the noseatity of peoples be seakln imbed
of is (lapels. Warta lefts wow mama to the assersity
II bawling la the awl of peastast stables—la the stags of
jestosteat honor. (" awn, ham," and • laugh.) How
aff cos meld be head to Masa so debilitate • system we.
Whim gatiriablig. (Hear, hear.) Ihro gbh* hos. hersnot
sold he ores onlynisod at the wards of the he. somber for
Mikes: (fgr. Caboras). He ought rather he rejoice that
they were only words. (Haar, beer.) What wield the
sight hon. basset my whoa them verde dossed sate
condo—ead whoa the Tremory bomb amid se leaser be
able to peovide the mans of demsse past • whale people,
reseed to dooporatios by their Wafts tad sogiest ? (Hear,
hear.) It bad bean mid that the mftslios were cowards—
he believed that there was awash of water is *sir
blood, be if they had the bleed which rem tineagli
miss they sear inlaid have ealsollied es
Flialtbe elessin sad Waft& they had yawl.
they thielat wadi eatlifyilmier**. wh• won
faced se Ng this odious hapset, to tell thus illa One woe
no had s ihe hands of the sesanairsimem sat of rolishilase
L
degrilllSS could be id ? He amid slide them i=oom with the owhoa tf Irelsaihey lti e ftileg them
am set ham
foyer to de so. Lo Me time mightt thsm reemalter Hat
*arch lived by the saftrases of the stem
aeration of what tho eftlahismat hem the
aftolic churnh, he would nand thot sallies et best timid
titti to the catholic clergy, whim drain to the *ritual
el their flocks, voids, owl emaileg the eft in
the Edit of typhas and other 'Mesh= louses, formed
a milted sestina to the Goaded el some of the protestant

he feel any dame, that the governmentr,of which he
was • member had sines • assented to the iss-
poenS principle of iag the tea bishops ?
It would he better to have taken a direct negative, and
then the feeling of the house would have been tested.
(Hear, hear.) He was convinced there would be no pease
ia Ireisad till the daisies' establishment was madified hn
lestellant. (Hear, hear.) This it was that kept alive the
leollailen sad spirit of dimmed in Ireland, which banished
MOM boa iv shores, and preveired the employment of
(Hear, hear) If hon. members wished church
epaelimis not to be discussed here, let them remove the
OWNS of the agitation, sari amongst othen, abolish this
mini ten' money, which prevailed only in eight towns in
irehaL Is Scotland, toe, it was confined to two 101 M.,
WNW. Ned Montrone lie was seemly satisfied that the
alemelsee both of Scotland and Ireland would be better it
ids came of excitement were removed. (Heir, hear.)
Mr. NAPIER said, if the voluntary principle was inter-
fend with by the church in Irelend, there would be some
ground for complaint stirs that church ; bat so long s
diet was not the now, Ist the rights of the church be upheld as
well @ethos of others. In than diseuseicns it was always
fallaciously assumed, that the church's property did net
belong to it, but was a tax on the country at Lame In the
ease before the house, the charge had been imposed, in the
aims of Charles the Sceond, after the settlement of the
U!ster plantation ; and it was done with a view to =courage
commerei.l settlers from England. Hence, the title to tam
property rested on precisely rte same authority as the title
to the lands which were granted after the rebellion. When
the towns were settled on the new inhabitants, this gent
was made for the encouragement of their churches.
All subsequent peeks= of property had acquired
it, subject to this charge, and to the eeneilions on which the
government originally settled it. Mr. o•Plynn, one of the
witnesses examined before the select committee, had plainly
stated that it was against the sonience of a Reman embalm:
to pay ash • charge in favour of a protestant clergyman
even supposing he kad acquired his property subject to that
charge. fish • principle was mammy, not only to justiee,
but to common sense, and to the very existence of praperty at
all. Suppose the property were discharged from this liability,
who would be benefited ? The owner, not the °unpin ;
for the rent was regulated on a consideration of the thugs
to which the property was subject. How endd any con-
scientious prindpie be brought to support seek a robbery as
this? It was the same in the titles rentodaspe
where the soupier', in case of dhtraint, had •
right to make a &dustless from their rtht. The
torch in his opiaion was • great homage paid to,
tenth and Christianey. It was founded on the word of
God in witness of the truth. lie was not afraid for the
clergy of that church in Ireland if they were put on their
trial beats he could bear testimony to their filelity, to
their dutifulness, and to their zeal in diffusing andel. mend,
and relieioas Idessinp. The hon. gentleman, the chairman
of the committee, admitted that the clergy in the towns per-
formed their duties honestly. If they did an, was it not fair
that they should be paid ? They had no sinecure, and
therefore there was no neon for taking away
their property from them. lie void be prepared
to follow out the suggestions of different deny-
men who were examined before the comedies for
the purpose of making the details of collection less onerous.
He would be prepared to agree in the suggestioa of Dr.Weet
for throwing the claim on the owner in fee, instead of the oc-
cupier. The oily other question was, whether they could not
find some other 63112.11 for supplying this money. It was
said that this property was the creation of the legislature, and
that the legislature oeght to subetitate another source of sup-
plying it. The committee had made an investigation of the
funds in the hands of the ecclesiastical commissioners, but no
surplus had been discovered by which this charge could be
supplied. With regard to the Church Temporalities
Act, he cautioned them how they opened that
question. That qiestioa could not be opened without
also opening others. That act was the settlement of a ques-
tion which had given rise to angry discus ions. If they
opened that, it would give occasion to the opening of the
Maynooth grant, which had been also professedly pasted for
the purpose of putting an end to annual discussions. Let
them take ears that it ail not open up ads of parliament
passed prior to 1834. An hon. gentleman said that the pre-
testant church in Ireland possessed • reverse of 1,000,0001.
He defied him to prove that from authentic docu-
ments. There was no reason why the church should
ho called en to give 14,0001. a year to land-
lords, many of whom were protestant', whilst those who
were not purchased their property subject to the charge.
(Hear.) They were not prepared to make a present of Ibis
property, particularly as they had as substitution to offer.
An hon. gentleman on the other side said that he supported
the motion on the voluntary principle. The voluntary prin-
ciple, as he unites:cod it, was founded on liberty of con-
science. Bot if others thought that the principle of
an e,tablialament was the true one, let them not
violate their own principleby taking away the
property that belonged to that establishment, Un-
der the Church. Temporalities Act, no benefice under
3001. a year could be taxed, and small benefices were to be
augmented until they reached 2001. a year. The entire
income of the protestant puce:bird clergy only amounted to
as average of 1701. a year, and eta perms formed the
average number of the congregation. No substitute was
effend for this provision, end it would be an injustice, there-
tore, to agree to the motion.
Mr. REYNOLDS sail two things were clear from the
hon. and keened gentleman's speech ; first, that he was •
sincere defender of the protestant church as by law esta
blished, and, secondly, t'at he was an excellent
medal pleader ; but he thought the magnates el
that church would not feel greatly obliged to his
for a defects which only said in effect, Leave us
in pessimists of the mammon of iniquity." He was elm
prised that so practised • 'peeks should have dwelt so lag
on such weak points. Let him remind the hon. and learned
gentleman that the enormous revenues which were 110 I•
er
joy& by the protect nt church once belonged to the catholic
church, from which they were taken by force, subs.
queotly smiths& by set
amen W and that fe
was under acts et parliament that the protestant
church now held its property. The fact that the
house had destroyed two archiepiscopal mitres and tea
subordinate ones eenstituted tolerably strong proof
that it weeded and exercised the right to curtail the oda-
blishment. (Hear.) The hon. member for Cork had no widths
spoliate the church, be simply wished Istreader the bunks
He (Mr. Reynolds) coold not go entirely with his hon.
friend on that point; for though be desired to protect the
interests of the present incumbents, he would not sanction
the sp dation of the Resin catholic people. lie had special
'pod to complain on behalf of his constituents. Of the
6,0001., 11,0001. was paid b Dablin, the population of
whisk was 250,000, while 200,000 were Roman catholic's.
With regard to tho Roman catholic oath, he would observe
that he was not sent to that house as • Roman catholic, but
ass representative of the people ; and having taken the oath
esseientionsly and sincerely, he could still vote with a dear
seenssionee for the total abolition of the protestant church.
L the committee on this subject, which sat last year, • reso-
lution bad been proposed, abolishing ministers' money alto-
gether, and the resolution was only lost by the casting vote
el
the right hon. the Master of the Stint, who, as a esthdis,
hit a neegasy in giving his vote spinet protestant ministers. I
Let the Isses bear to shed that the protestant church in,
letlami—the eare
the 2hin the world, and one of the
mei *Adis— opoorest re es el eat church in the world, with
ea
lam* of 600,0001. to the 'sinister' of a popu-
lation stetamberring MN then 700,000 out of a total popu-
lation of MIS this dab& millions. He could tell the hon.
and learned gentlemen sad his friends, that the tempo-
ralities of the protestant church of Ireland would net be
much logger endured by the population of that country.
There was au agitation getting up ogainst the temporalities
of that &web white would art erase till the object waa '
thoroughly attain& The people of Eigland complained of
the great met el the anay in Inlandstolid the tempera
Miss elthe Para then, remove that plague spot ; sad the
entire army might be at once removed, He galled upon the
house he called upon the government, be called am-
phatitially spas the premier to put an end to this epos in-
sult upos the people of Ireland.
Mr. 0. HAMILTON denied that the property of the
church in Ireland was of the magnitude represented, for if
divided amongst the clergy, it would crab give to oath Mi.
a year. He concurred in the posisty of the amendment
moved by the right hon. Innen the Swaney of State for
the Horne Department, and hoped sash excitable topic" as
hod been introduced would be avoided is inn* as possible
in future.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL said that the topies allaisd to bythe
has, member hod ham Stet iatroducod by the ImastraMe
member for Wansisirehire, who went se fee ar ae,
MO Nit Hewes sahib members wore Impede,
Mit *sir oaths be lagpsetiog this motion. Whet km
mall►
male, law moil amide. He wee ewes mei go
dbeirb or wakes the peasolone religion, sad aims
Abe tomperalities el that Mum& masitated its religbae he
tololimi that be PO et liberty to Mal with these Imps
gala The bow member for Warwickshire be
gehuM
ilhe verge of secedes Ida (Mr. Olimaell) with the
sisa etlis oath. spa to have emelletted %mei
led sweet that no keeiga plum bad
Mose malms, while It wee Maim Met a
bed safe Prisiistisa. (Hear, bear.) His
he.. frtr had not salyloseght amvad this melba with
the emend of Ms cemakessini, but actually lied hams be
his posserion at that memeue Pmetest imgymett.
I requesting him to do eft (Haar,hear.)
Sir I. TYRELL emeemied that the onsetim Of minis-
tars' sow we. one of Newly sad not inneoissee, as ably
shown by tte hen. and balsa gentlemen, the number for
the University of Oxford.
The house then divided en the intense that " the question
be now put."
For the soil= 44
Against it
Coasequently the question was not pet to a deckion, se
the mein question before the house wee avoided.
SELECT COMMITTEES.
M. W. FATTEN moved " that if at any time during the
a a select committee of this house, the quorum of
fixed by the hoses shell not be pupae, the de*
Oldie ellasalitese shall cell the attention of the charms to
the hat, who shall thereupon suspend the proceedings oldie
lemmittee until a quorum be present, or adjourn the mom
mitts. to some future day." '
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY objected to the motion.
Mr. HUMS was of opinion that the molts: should he op-
dolly reported to the house.
Sir G. GREY thought it hardly neesmary that spiel rah
ports should be made to the hose upon each °cessions es
those to which the motion referred.
The question was then pot and agreed to.
NEW BILL.
LI Mr. SOTHERON obtained leave to being la a bill to
11111111 better provision for certifying tables of colidfillfeWss
14 Madly societies, and for ascertaining the NMI" et,
aelAres
house adjourned at 20 miss* after 1 o'clock. •

Mr. NEWDEGATE said be was inclined to concur with
the hon. member for Stockport (Mr. Kmbaw) that seek a
diseussion as the present did not tend to raise the house in
the estimation of the country, particularly as it had been
conducted by hon. gentlemen opposite. He had li.tened
with pain to the speech of the hon. member for Meath
(Mr. Grattan), who professing himself to be a protestant,
had exulted in the degraciatn of his own religion. and who
stated that a protestant in his perish had had two wives,
and that he (Mr. Grattan) believed they killed him. ( A laugh).
The hon. member for Middlesex had declared in an open
mealy mutter that this motion was intended to be the fore-
runner of other propoials for the destruction of the church
in Ireland. The hon. member fur Meath had reiterated
that declaration ; the hoc. member for Cavan bed 'Wed that
to be the clear interpretation of the motion ; and, if the
hens I.eked at the terms of it they would be convinced that
IFld have no ether meaning, because the hen. mover pro-
to sweep away the prep. '', of the Irish church, and
substitute other property from funds which did not exiet.
(Hear.) He denied most emphatically, in reply to what had
Ass from hon. members opposite, that the DWI church
had been wanting in her data. Daring the period
of amiss, disease, and death, he hid himself heard 1
Henna eatholice state that the clew of the church of Eng-
WA had nobly exerted themselves in the cause of humanity,
, mad that they lied made greater sacrifices than any others
for their lassVehing fellow countryman; and yet now, for
the sake of snaking shoe inaieuatieu,the house had been told
of alleged eireneeMenese cocwcted with the church of
Ireland whisk he Maly believed existed only in the law
Onetime of these who audit& the eitebliaisment. (Neer.)
It was fang that Remus Whelks meerhers should be
head lei girl *tweed a meths !me the promo to denude
the amok of her poverty, amiss that they had sworn
died bee interests. He had premised on •
homer sesesies to prove from antherity that great numbers
of Roma enehoiim considessi tbesaselves abs-lvt el fn m
eisfey era they might have labia, which interfered with
the eetumsement of their own religion ; and ha would
saw premed le Mil that pledgee The oath taken by the
Boman catholic membees of OM brass was to the offset
that they dirolaianek simanly abjured
I%
seems to subvert the pestmlese herd—that they
new exercise any petrilop they might weer to disturb
or weaken the proteitsat Mfghan, or preemesee government
of the realm, sad that they mods this deelendes, sad every
part thereof, in the plain, misery mew of woods of the
oath, without animmiesedissfie mead setervelima what-
eve?. Now, if MI we ine so* the Muse hal the
testimony of the three bit. =We= be Mawr, Meath,
and Cavan that the melba tithe bus. mew fir Cork wee
• direct Gnash on the cheek sehillheit *lreland. (No.
as) Ibis ideskimer seem to. him dm the three hon.
seembre mewed to hod seeds a behest elitimien ; and be
sued sal wadentard bee them trio bed tabs the oath
will pone& it to thruways@ to support such a motile.
He bead on refuses. to the duress of elm eseeistary of
&way sad Gregory 11. that oaths were set to be kept, If
they operated against the laterals of the ohnesk of ft/is—
that they were not to be aelled webs, bet palmy rather, if
they %teetered with that alloweb. He aim found
that Dr. Doyle and etrekblibrip Murray bad spoken
very highly in their Masse behre the Hew. of Lords of
thewoos* of Latina mid Onsteese and yet one of the
Emmet these sonadlo wee** bath wee not to be kos
with Weise ma mallets ssetelehig to the Ilessieb church.
Ho thought be had now Meowed Ida pledge to prove that
ems Zeman eathelim woe set bawd by any oaths whisk
Is earths Wawa the Womb of their shwa. He ott.
Metthat Mr. Term hew a Rases earbelle, be& not
. woe 'gully doiesisid wawa if the Ow*
of Is wisli as the Imes. imember -kit Madness= to
peo the most =Was s bee whethyrltwom ea
wheals et a pooloslont. he M. Newdepa
&mai ever be bend seedy eel .ftwbeti, so far as
week wise west, thea *o *wok of Wend to the
dews to which kW how** the establiahment we
new exposed, from poommied Math sod opts he. (Hem)
Lori ARIINDIL end SMUT sold a am woe bisnil
Ito break an unlawful oath whi* he old& ha* less sew
1 ph* to take—for *stens., hottest We Irk* sissdes
=lke would he guilty dextrose withodwe If be Wei
Monet bound to abide by it. Hat dm
webs wee, as le trepreled 4ffer
or* takes by Whoatimbers. It ha boss
Istorpretul la elloint owns, and a memovethet
sad protertast membm ales Isom had lately inhumed Um
*Mho leek the awe taw of it ee the right hos
*e minsber fir Dun garees, bed stated faa Isis Sr*
*mg% *teat not keep's, faith with keee bad bees ee
repeatedly gemmed that it required no yeetre reply ter
Whelks were bawd to heap faith with them is *e
eat citatory sew of His tars. (Hear.) He begiire-a
WM the bones that the but. member for Cork, Alin. a
oadadis*kw, had* Modestly MAW that would net
Irish Calk reledsa, end that bed
dtsstw Me
maw aldeMdway grabs& the abeam of the egetes
Irialt shinti et
Whelks bad eyes ems
Ils HIM said, that it to remove an &bur., an Is:
sold es isequallity, had
to sits& the church, then
member for Cork had made that attack. But the
boner should recollect that a motion precisely similar to the J
had been submitted by Mr. 9erjeset Murphy in
1844, whp Lord Stanley stated that the subject of
lad occupied the serious attention of
‘III4IX the view of providing a sabatituts and
WWI Cire boped, beim the tad of the retain,* be seablel is
en homed pie& The fast was that Lug
bog boss ow of Ike beet church Worms subsilZ
sow iviuni la that brat% for he had sheihhel uo fewer
Mists lobbgoles, H• OIL Hume) thanked*. lordship
Opp ogsg us. weramageogretted that he had net gum the As
daft mold Whop. from the House of Levis
Hotwomoq le the right hoe. baronet (1* 0. Grog
rift mime'es ce the pretest ocession, as if
boom the motion pat ; bat why should

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LONDON,WEDNESDAY MAR.2B
CERTAIN cf the Irish landlorls—ec;me of them
Pe liter and some of them whir —seem to be influ-
enced more by the sympathies of eats than the ties
of patty, and appear just now to entertain consider-
able doubts whether they will not abjure the faith
they have hitherto professed in political leaders and
political principle', aid rally to the recruiting flag
raised by Lerd STANLEY. The banner is a new one,
but the inscription itbeers is the old war-cry of mono-
poly and exclusion. And the terms beld forth to
tense whom we hare indicated are characteristic
oldie cause, namely, that wherever the class interests
of the Mill landlords are in question, they shall.
be sustained by the entire force of the STANLEY
party. The Irish aristocracy care as little for
tne maintenance of the Navigation Act as the
English protectionists care for that of the Irish Poor
Law; so they would gladly agree to serve each other's
iurpose regarding them, that their compact might
teens be knit together by a mutuality of mischief.
The new-born misgivings of Celtic squires about
the safety of our mercantile marine are only
to be surpassed by the disinterested zeal tf Mr.
BANKS and Sir JOHN TYRELL for the rescue of
Leah prof eny from its present liablity to the sup-
port of the poor. Let the people of both countries
Look to it in time. Their hereditary misrulers ate
leagued together in a compact, whicb,if not conjoie.tly
toasted from the outset, may cost much toil and time
hereafter to overthrow ; but which, if timely watched.
;had with common foresight countervailed and bathed,
may be made the origin of a better feelir g and a'
better understanding than bee hitherto subsisted be-
tween the popular parties of England and Ireland.
Can any one have observed what has taken place
during the Lot three weeks in parliament, and the
cerresponding tone of the organs of different parties
in. the press, without perceiving the symptoirs of what
we are adverting to? Not only have the protectionists
eta masse lent themselves to the sad and shabby pur-
pose of delaying the rate in aid, but a numerous
election of Lord LINCOLN'S followers have not scrupled
to do the same • and it is sanguinely prognosticated
that their united etteegth in the House of Lord°,
aided by a fit contingent of Irish whir, wilt,
succeed in finally arresting its pr: guess through that
disinterested assembly. On the other hand have we
not seen last year's majority of 117 in favour of the
repeal of the navigation laws reduced during the pre-
' sent session to less than half that number ? And no-
body can compete the division late upon the two
ccessions without being struck with the absence of
some and the votes of others of the Ili h portion of
the House of Commons. Wo do not mean to and
bate every charge to this sole cause. We believe
that discontent and anger at the conduce pursued by
the bulk of the English liberal party on other
questions relating to Ireland, and still more at the ill-
conditioned tone of observation indulged in by some
who ought to have known better, influenced, perhaps
unconsciously, more than one of the Irish members.
But we believe that these who allowed themselves,
we thick erroneously, to be swayed by such senti-
ments are not, after all, the men whose adoption of
the STANLEY uniform we use any cause to apprehend.
'Pixie error lay inventing their supposed et nee r f wrong
done to the liberties of their own pc :plc by tacitly aid-
ingin the infliction of an injury to the interests of oufe.
We will not, however, dwell upon the topic: we only
hope that neither the provccation nor the retaliation
may ever again neer.
Bat a new feature of the proposed alliance of St.
James's-square has recently appeared. Toe Morning
Chronicle announces that the Irish Franchise Bill is
to be opposed, not only by the Orangemen, whom
Mr. DISRAELI promises to lead, but by the
wearers of Lincoln-green. As our ab'e Irish con-
temporary the Press has well desm ibed it,—.the
rival sections of the disunited tory party, "have
thus found a new ground of mutual amity whereon,
to manifest their common enmity to popular right
assadSiirlihßotice"
is.znr We purposelyPitznan Sir JAMES eJAId7SinGPIt such men
Y from
the suspicion of participating in this miserable nom
bleeders. It is impossible to suppose that either of
them will ever regain be betrayed into the fol-
lies of 1839 nod 1840, when upon this very ques-
tion 'of equalising the constituencies of England and
Ireland, the evil counsels of Lord STANLEY were
suffered to prevail, and the prolific seeds of natiunal
hatred and distrust were sown broadcast throughout
the latter kingdom. We are firmly persuaded that if
ministers are sincere in their professed desire to give
Ireland this year the too long-delayed benefit of a
large and sound elective franchise, they will
find themselves supported by both the oi:em-
ulsion we have named ; and that they have no
reason to fear any serious frustration from
the giddy and petulant factiousness that was
not with whig measures when they are wrong, but
which seeks ter cause of cavil at every measure, if it
be proposed by the whige, whether it be right or
wrong.
Lest year the Lineolnites offered not a murmur of
opposition to the Irish Franchise Bill. Where then is
the consistency of their opposition to it now? It is,
by the admission of their daily organ, essentially
and almost literay the same bill. It lays down
a principle, as a foundation fur the tianchise,
of the utmost value, not only to Ireland, but (with a
view to the future) to England and Scotland likewise
It makes the attainment of the suffrage depend not
non the nature of the lease or other tenure, whereby
a man holds his house or land, but by its value tested
by rating to the poor, and proof of his payment of
rates. A sounder or more expans:ve principle than
date never was proposed for legislative adoption ; and
-c.ry true friend to the extension of the suffrage in
"d and in England will assuredly press for its

IT is, we believe, no new opinion that many
of the counties of England ere tory-ridden as
much in consequence of the supineness of the con-
stituencies, as from the power of the aristocracy.
Whenever the liberals have assumed a bold front, the
have been effectually rooted. Middlesex,
tigtraterland, and Essex were notable instanc:s in
paint at the last general election. All three were about
to be left in the Lands of the notice; but by vigorous
rfimatuat were sucosinftilly remelted from their grasp.
Tblife were a dozen other counties in which the liberal
canoe might have been equally triumphant had there
been spirit enough in the oonatituenciee 0 fight the
bat.le. But there seems to be no one to look after the
liberal cause in these districts, and no one to fight the
gpod fight when an opportunity occurs.
Two county elections that have taken please
within a very few weeks, attract attention to
this subject. If there are any two divisions
in England in which the liberals ought to return
the members, those divisions are South Staffford
and South Derby. In South Staffordshire one-
I half of the constituency is manufacturing. The
town of Wolverhampton, and the important district
peiniag Wain% West Bromwich,
Wednesbury, Derlaston, and adjacent
pikeek ought to return a county member without
dilbalty. In South Staffordshire there is the
strongest feeling in favour of free trade. The
Wolverhampton people pride themselves on being
the authors of that agitation. Yet when an op-
portunity comes of showing their adherence to the
priatiple, not a movement do they make for the pur-
=carrying out their views. This la the more
• able because the landowner of the county
lose by no means unanimously opposed to them. Sir
It. PEEL could not have supported a protectionist in
Ifrodtion to a free trader in the Tam-
division. In Lichfield the PAGETS
MI Aram are most powerful. Lord HA-
mirror; roles Penkridge, Lori WROTTESLET
summands the tenantry upon the aide of Shropshire.

Of these powerful nobles Lord HATHERTON at least is
bele red to be hostile to any comprdmiee If a liberal
candidate were procla,med, not one of them, for very
shame's sake, would venture to preserve a base
neutrality. What good reason can be given then, fo •
allowing this important county to be quietly handed
01:4‘ to the Earls of TALBOT and DARTMOUTH, and
the pettysquirearchy and miserable toadies with whom
they ere associated? If the single reason be that
tee ANSON family are not wealthy, and that it would
las inconvenient to "the Colonel" to be put to the
coat of a contest at the next general eleCtion—why,
we say that is a very bad reason, and one which the
Wolverhampton people ought rover to have admitted.
The idea of this town permittieg a protectionist to be
elected for the county under a family compromise is
really too preposterous.
The case of South Derbyshire is scarcely less fla-
grant. The largest properties in this county are
possessed by liberals. The Earl of 'Ate esren and Vis-
count MELBOURNE are both large land owners. The
Duke of DevossmßE has very considerable influence.
The important aed incressieg town of Derby is Essen-
tially liberal: Belper, and other villages, contain large
maeufecturing constitaer.cirs, and some of the menu-
factarers—as for example the family of STRUTT
have raised themselves to the biAlast posit'on in the
county by their industry, energy, and ability. In
South Derbyshire there is absolutely no other
tory isfiner.ce than that of the squirearchy ;
for the most part a body of little ability
and great encumbrances. Some veers ego a
body of Ulcer gentlemen met together over a
dinner table and arranged among themselves whom
they would propose for South Derbyshire in several
successive parliaments ! They took Mr. HURT
and Sir GEORGE CREWE in the fist instuce,
and then they decided on being represented
by a Mr. Mutant and Mr. COLVILLE. These last
nulled squirm ns were decided tories, and that was
their only recommendation. The first of them, p. or
man, died the other day at Barbadoes, where he lead
gone for the benefit of his health, and it became the
duty of the county to elect another representative.
The Squires who manage the representative bu-i-
-sees of the die( eien thereupon met together at an
inn at Derby, and coolly decided that Mr. MUNDY, of
Markheston, a relative of their late member, was the
man whom the 7,000 registered erectors of South Der-
byshire mere to send to parliament. Now the first
Mr. MUNDY was bad enough, but this second Mr.
Muenv was many degrees worse. The first
could not speak when he tried—the eecoad
never had tried, because he never had found an thing
to speak about. Even in the ordinary public busi-
ness of the locality he had never taken the slightest
shore. Ile was entirely unknown to half the county, I
and the other half bad not formed aey favourable
opinion of him from a eircumstatee we have to mention.)
It happened, in the course of last year, that a case
came before the public in which Mr. MUNDT was con-
cerned. One of his dependents rented from him a
It:wee in a hamlet which stands upon his property,
which he used for the purposes a a school. Tue
man was a Wesleyan, and as the hamlet contained
no Wesleyan chapel, ministers of that persuasion
performed in this school-room the services of their
body. To this Mr. Mins uir saw fit to take objection ;
and as, nevertheless, the s-rvices were continued,
he camel the occupier to be served with a legal
notice to quit. To this emergency the schoolmaster
submitted, and the services were discontinued. The
proceeding was, however, very offensive to the
Wesleyan body, and one of their local leaders wrote
to Mr. MUNDY a strong letter, tr which, we believe,
no rejoinder was vouchsafed to him. The
matter was publicly mentioned at the time; but
Mr. MUNDY was an obscure man, and his conduct
was rather regarded with pity than with anger.
But when Mr. MUNDY presented himself for the
county, p ople began to consider whether the
princ,ples to which he bad given cif- ct as a lane-
lord were such as befitted a British legislator. On
his first pub'ie appearance be was questioned on the
matter, when he avowed the transaction p ecisely as
we have stated it. He urged in vindication, first, I
that be did not th ink any sect should be put on a per with
the church; second, fist the schoolmaster and his pu-
pils might attend a Weslee an chapel at Derby without
his interference ; third, that he did not think a private
house was a proper place for the performance of divine
service ; fourth, that the schoolmaster still continued
to be his tenant. It is needless to say, however, that
these reasons could not be satisfetet ry. It was ac-
cordingly determined to oppose Mr. MUNDY. The
candidate selected was the Right Hon. EDWARD
STRUTT. As a native of South Derbyshite, a con-
sistent liberal, a csnsiderable landed proprietor, and at
the same time as largely connected with the commer-
cial affairs of the district, no better choice could have
been made. When the first overtures were made to
Mr. Breen, that gentleman said he would not
gage in a doubtful c ntest. Some suggestion weal
ben thrown out that there should be a requisition,
and Mr. Snarler expressed an opinion that such a
requisition as would induce him to stand could nut be
obtained. The supposititious number of 2,500 requisi-
tionists having been Vaud before him, he admitted
that with such a call as that no man could decline to
come forward. The requisition was undertaken. In
one week, by the spontaneous movement of the constitu-
ency, 2,221 electors attached their names to it, or
within 275 of the outside number first mentioned.
These names were very closely and carefully
scrutinised; and from the mode of examination adopted
we are enabled to state with perfect confidence that
every signature wee genuine. 225 of the subscribers
bad supported the tory candidates at the preceding
election, making a difference of 450 on their poll. The
contested election of 1841 had moreover brought up
about 700 Wesleyan electors, of whom nearly 400
bad voted for the belies. The requisitionists now re-
ceived from the Wesleyan' the most positive assur-
ances that none of their body would vote for
Mr. MUNDY; and the most important sad influen-
ential of them tendered to Mr. STRUTT their
earnest support. Those who are conversant with the
requisition feel no doubt that it was equivalent to
3000 votes on a poll. There is every reason to
think that this would have been a majority. A large
body of the electors would have been neutral. Mr.
STRUTT is a public man of considerable station and
unimpeachable integrity. The tory candidate
is an obscure person, convicted by his own con-
tagion of either the greenest ignorance or the
=bigotry. Mr. Snaterr, however, declined
put in nomination. His decision was an-
nounced on Tuesday afternoon—the election was to
take place on Friday morning. The requisition was
not transferable. There was no time to get up another.
or to make known throughout a wide-spread district
the claims of any ether candidate. Mr. MUNDY was
according) y permitted to come in unopposed, and thus
South Derbyshire continues tory-ridden.
We lean Mr. STRUT!' to give his own reasons for
refusing to comply with the request of 2,200 liberal
electors. It is not our object to aggravate their dis-
appointment. We will only my that it ought not to'
have been on light grounds that that disappointment
should have been given them. It those who are in
the position of electors owe a duty to their country
end to their principles, so certainly do those who are
by their station liable to be placed in the position of
candidates. For our own part, we cannot bet beak
upon South Derbyshire es a county thrown'away.
We believe much of the dread of " standing for a
county" arises from an undue apprehension of the
labours and expenses attendant on a canvass.
We believe that these aro greatly overrated. Why
should there be agents; cad banner, and open
hares in every polling district--ell the para-
phernalia of an election contest in every paltry village ?
The work of an election can to done without all this.
" When I canvassed North Derbyshire," said Mr.
T. °MORSE, upon one occasion, " I had neither
committee, nor banners, nor any other agent than a
bill-sticker. I sent him through the towns and
villages to give notice when I would visit them, and
I need to ride over at the appointed time on my
shooting pony, and get up era a wall, or the steps of
the Village Cross, and say, • Well, gentlemen, here I
am: now let us talk a little shout polit:ce.' And
by this means I secured my election, and any other
good man and true may do the sane."
We believe it. Mr. OeBonNE, at the last Middle-
sex election, proceeded on much the same principle,
.tindedwon,
r igah t
no-v gone from 'monied. us. Reformers —he
leaves us the intinen.s of his examp!e—preserve the
tligliehtforwwilmard,ganreadtlyenaeirdgeeditiebymsonne,
memory of HENRY HULL, of UXBRIDGE.

gbe court.

The Judge-Advocate-General had an audience of
the Queen on Monday at Buckingham Palace, and sub-
mitted to her Majesty the proceedings of some courts-
martial.

The Duchess of Kent visited her Majesty yester-
day.
H _er Majesty and Prince Albert honoured the per-
isfniancs at the Its al Italian Opera House with their pre-
pense yesterday evening. The royal suite consisted of the
rineheat of Sutherland, the Counter' of Charleston'. Hon.
Mies Dawson, the Marquis of Ormond", Lord Alfred Paget,
and Colonel Homan,.

A deputation, caasisting of Mr. Edwin °swirl.
Chairman of the Shipowners' Towing Company ; Mr. Ale:-
ander Willis, from the None company; Mesas. David Hellcat
and John Drysdale, from the Caledonian Towing Company ;
Mr. Griffiths, from the Thames Towing Ceropeny ; and Kr.
William Watkins, hid an interview with the Right Hon. H.
Labouchere yesterday at th- office of the Board of Trade.
A deputation from the trustees of the Grosvenor-
place district, eonsietiag of Lord Castlereagh, M.P. Mr.
Grenville Berkeley, M.P., Mr. H. N. Turner, Kr. C.
Graham, Mr. Robert G. Smith, and Mr. Berry, accompanied
by Mr. Gee. A. Walaise, clerk to the trustees, had an inter-
view with the commissioners of her Majesty's woods and fo-
rests yesterday at their office inWhitehall-p.lece.
The Marquis of Nermanby had an interview with
Lord John Russell yesterday.
Mr. Ricardo, M.P., had an interview .yesterday
with the Right Hon. H. Ltbooehere.

TIER MAJESTY'S DRAWING-ROOM to-morrow will
commence at two o'clock. As previously announced, the
mourning I.r the late King of Holland will be dapensed
with on the occasion.

PRINCE ALBERS IN GLENESK.—Tho Breclig Ad-
verther says:—" Lord Panmure recently offered to Prince
Albert the privilege of shooting over an extensive part of his
lordship's Highland domains, which offer his royal highness
has been pleased to accept.

(From last night's Gazette.)
CROWN OFFICE, MARCH 26.—Member returned to
SPOTS in this present parliament for the county of Derby,
Southern Division Mundy, of blarkenton, in the
county of Derby, E.g., in the room of E. M. Mundy, Esq.,
descend.
DUCHY OF CORNWALL, SOMERSET-HOUSE, MARCH
20.—The Queen has been pleased to direct letters patent to
be passed in the name and on behalf of his Royal II ghnees
the Prince of Wales, for the appointment Of James Robert
Gardiner, E.g. barrister-at law, to discharge the duties of
Surveyor. General of the Duchy of Cornwall, in the room of
Lord De L'lsle, resigned; and for the appointment of Jmhas
Wigley Bateman, Esq., to discharge certain of the duties,
not otherwise provided for, attached to the office of Rec • -
General of the Duchy of Cornwall, lately‘held by Sir Henry
Wheatley, Bart.

TIIE CASE OF Tan REV. MR. SIIORE.—Lest even-
jai, a meatier/ washeld in the Islington Independent Chapel,
114 h-street, lelingtoe, "to consider the case of the Rev.
Mr. Shore, and to adopt such other measures as will lead to
his immedia•.e liberation from St. Thomas's Gaol, Exeter."
The Rev. Mr. Mollie, minister of the chapel, took the chair,
and said, they were not there merely to consider the case of
Mr. Shore, but also the great principle involved in the ques-
tion. It was an astounding fact that a mierstate( the gospel,
in 1849, should now suffer imprisonment for his honest con-
victions. When he considered this he could not account for
the apathy which EGglishmen had manifested in this
case during the last two or three weeks. The law
which they had met that night to condemn was a relic of a
dark and despotic age.—The Rev. Mr. Theresby moved
a resolution expressing dissatisfaction at the proceedings of
the Bishop of Exeter, and a perfect confidence in the Rev.
Mr. Shore, and a deep sense of the injustice under which he
suffers. And concluded a long speech by saying that he and
other gentlemen intended to pro reed on the morrow ('o day)
to St. Thomas's Gaol, Exeter. The resolution and another
of a shell a character having been carried, a vote of thanks
was given to the chairman ; after which a collection was
made, which was distinctly stated not for the purpose of pay-
ing the costs from which Mr. Shore was now suffering, bat
to defray the expenses consequent on calling public attention
to his case. The meeting then separated.

STEAMBOAT EXPLOSION ON TILE RlTER.—Yester-
day morning about 9 o'clock the greatest alarm and excite-
ment prevailed among the passengers at London-bridge
Wharf, I. consequence of a serious explosion on be and the
Waterman Steamboat, No. 8, by which several persons were
much injured. The steamer left Woolwich shortly before
8 o'clock in the morning, under the charge of Capt. Warren,
apparently in good working order, with a fair freight of
passengers. She proceeded towards London, and at the
time above named reached the Londos-bridge pier, where
several persons landed. All then seemed quite safe, but just
as the captain gave ordt rs "Go alma," a loud explosion
was hear I, and the next moment a large body of tire and
steam was seen issuing from the engine-reom. The captain
finding the lower part of the vessel was on fire had her made
fast, and then immediately adopted steps to release
the men who were engaged below. Several at-
tempts were made to descend the ladder leading
to the engine-room, but all efforts were useless,
although a great quantity of water was thrown down.
After a few seconds had elapsed, the engineer, named
Thomas Williams, made his appearance in a most distressing
condition, the whom of the upper part of his person being
dreadfully burned and scalded by the action of the fire and
deem, which filled the engine-room. Shortly afterwards the
stoker, named Samuel Spencer, was released, end he was
found to be more injured than the lut-named person, being
shockingly injured from head to foot. They were taken
ashore, and conveyed to St. Thomas's Hospital. The origin
of the explosion is yet not positively known; but the engi-
neer informed the reporter that his opinion was that the tube
plate at the end of the boiler burst, which consequently let
out the steam and water on to the fire, which blew off the
furnace doors, and in a few seconds the engine-room was com-
pletely filled with fire and steam. The sufferers are progress-
ing Cs favourably as could be expected. The steamer, which
' is completely disabled, now lies off taueenhithe for further
examination.

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MONET OItDEIMI.—A notce haahren ironed from the
General Post-oftlee, stating Mat on and after the let of Aprii,
the (aortal; Mikes will be opened ftr the issue and payment
of money orders :—Brynmawr, Brecknockshire ; Lianrwst,
Dmiblghshlre; Newhaven, Sussex ; Wandsworth, Surrey.