The Express.
London, England, 1847-06-19 00:00:00

their sereaffiefiefik Shsegist the ?duelists should to
ti the Weigh caul the question referred to the
Weft iieNnisittee, to prepare a matured plan,
Iseeolet into action in the next parliament.
mat aa. amiss. Mr. Shaw, Mr. Ewan, and Lord
sTM~eneilieldelb4he the motion llB
Against it
BUSINBINI OF TES NOUSB.—HEALTH OF TOWNS
BILL.
Lord J. RUSSELL sold he did not propose to move that
the house at its rising should arkiourn over tomorrow, be-
ams it was dogma' to proceed with unopposed bills, end to
seed ethers up to the Hone of Lords. In moving the order
of the day he the eentaittal of the Health of Towns Bill,
be send not bet expo a hope that his note friend the
masher for Bath would not impede the progress of that bill
by persevering with the motion of which he had given
notice, which would rats a discussion upon the gess &Et of
the window-tax.
Lord DUNCAN, in answer to his noble frier% begged
to tours him and the house, that no one was rem LWOW
than he was to promote the paining of saaitalp
and he had been chiefly induced to subedit the =2'
which be bad given notice, with reference to the endow-
dutire, when titling on the select committee on
Lord Lincoln's bill of last session, he had heard it complained,
by hon. members now sitting on the treasury bench, that
the noble lord's measure was incomplete, inasmuch es it did
not embrace that object, and that no measure would' be cook
pletely perfect which did not deal with the window-duties.
It was not his intention to have entered upon the whole
question of the window-duties, but to tall attention to the re-
markable fact that no less then 7,000 houses,of 8 windows each,
had fallen out of assessment since Mr. Baring's act of 1841.
However, as he saw that by persevering ho might impede
the progress of this bill, he should withdraw his notice of
motion, in the hope that when he brought it forward
in this cr the next session of parliament, he should receive
the support of her Majesty's government. (Hear, beer.)
Lord G. BENTINCK suggested that it would be ex-
tremely inconvenient to go on with business. to-morrow
(this day). Many hon. members not expecting but that
Saturday would, as usual, be a holiday, bad made engage-
ments accordingly. He hoped, therefore, the noble lord
opposite, who had not given notice of his intention that the
house should sit, would not persist in such an arrangement.
Lord J. RUSSELL observed that he only proposed to-
morrow to take stages of those bills to which there was no
opposition, in order so to advance the business of this house
that complaints should not be made in the other house of
bills being sent up there so late in the session. The noble
lord could not forget that rt this periid it bad been very
usual for the house to sit on Saturday..
Mr. ROEBUCK suggested to the noble lord at the head
of the government, that he could economise the time of the
house if he declined to persevere with thole bills which he
was certain could not be passed in the course of the present
session. One of those was the very bill now proposed is be
proceeded with—the Health of Towns Bill—which applied
to every town in the kingdom. It wee a erode, unprepared,
and ill digested measure, that could not possibly pass, except
with the consumption of many laborious evenings in the dis-
cussion of its details. The same he rm.st my of the Rail-
ways Bill ; indeed, the two bills together were quite enough '
to occupy the house for the next six weeks, and even then, he
was quite sure that neither ono nor the other would be
brought to a satisfactory cenclusion. The Poor-law Adminis-
tration Bill was a measure which mat be carried this session,
and, therefore, he trusted the noble lord would abandon the
two former bills to which he had alluded. His noble friend
and colleague had abandoned to-night a motion of great im-
portance to their constituents, and he hoped the government
would reciprocate the obligation thus conferred, by not
burthening the house with labours which, while they occu-
pied time, led to no useful purpose.
Lord J. RUSSELL, in reference to what had been stated
by the hon. and; learned member for Bath, could only say
that he did not think either the house or the government
could take for granted what bilk would not be opposed.
The hoe. and yarned patent= said that the Poor law
Adedennatien Hill was a aaseme which must be passed
this andee, addle ether be.. 'ambers contended that *
eagle never to be slowed se biome the law of the least
It bad, however, nee dinewed, sal a majority had decided
that it was a ball whin deemed the sanction of the lees-
keens. He (Lid J. Menell) did not know but that the
name result night Weed the Health of Towns Bill ; but in
enhor that he night bars the formidable objections that were
to be urged egoist *et nuns*, he now moved the order
of the day for the egemtleal of that bill.
Mr. ROEBUCK selehe only wished the noble lord to
withdraw such bilk es. be 4M not think he could carry
through during the presume session.
Mr. MACKINNON ingesesed a hope that the house
would consent to proceed at sews with the Health of Towns
Bill—a immure which bed be promised in the speech
Qom the throne ea the 'geeing Of the preocht session, and
in two preeeMes_spseebas.
Mr. WAKLMY lamed, from what had been stated is
the coarse of this convened's, that the house would sit to-
morrow (Saturday) in inks to proceed with unoppmed
bills.
Lord J. RUSSELL—With bills the stages of which are
un1":11446d.
r. WAKLEY resumed--Who waste know which bills
were unopposed ? He held in his hand a long list of bills
whisk stood fur thin evening, but he could not say which
I cos opposed or which unopposed. He thought it would
lamest satisfactory to the house and to the public, if the
Melia lord at the dead of the government would on Monday
goo &tough the list, and declare what bills he abandoned, and
wilt measures it was the intention of the government to press
forward. At present the house and the country were wholly
uninformed of the course which thegovernment meant to take.
He would ask the hon. member for Lancaster (Mr. Greene)
what was his intention with respect to the House of Com-
mons Costs Taxation Bill ? Many respectable gentlemen had
complained to him that this bill was an attack upon their
interests, especially the attorneys; and he believed they
were right. Would the bill be proceeded with, before the
evidence taken in the present session of parliament had been
laid before the house ? He differed from the hon. member
for Bath in his opinion uto the Health of Towns Bill. He
earnestly hoped the government would endeavour to pass it
in the present session, for which the public would be sin-
cerely thankful.
Mr. GREENE mid the bill had emanated from a com-
mittee, who had taken considerable evidence, and who had
thought it important that a proper taxation of costs should
take place, both as regarded parliamentary agents, attorneys,
and witnesses. In the absence of the hon. member for
Moetroge, he would not take the responsibility of stating
what was the course that would be pursued; but, in the
meantime, he would propose that the evidence taken before
the committee should be printed and laid before the house.
Mr. G. PALMER complained of the unconstitutional
principles which were involved in the Health of Towns Bill. I
He would not entrust to the members of town councils, who
were generally a pastel of tradesmen, such important powers
as were given by this bill,—such, for instance, as taking under
their controal gas and water works. The bill should have
his utmost opposition if these titaness were persevered in.
Let these Health of Towns commissioners have power to bor-
row money, if necessary, but not to nine rates ; they would
generally be a parcel of country tradesmen who had some-
thing else to do than look after such works.
Mr. HUDSON thought it would only hive been fair to the
house if the noble lord bad told them what bilk he should
take to-morrow, as many gentlemen engaged in important
, transactions were anxious to have Saturday at liberty. He
regretted the withdrawal of the motion of the noble lord the
member for Bath, respecting the window duties—a subject
which be considered of greater importance than the Health
of Towns Bill. It was extremely objectionable to bring such
a bill forward at the nose of a session, when the proba-
bility of its passing was extre_mely small.
Kr. DIVRTT charade:tied the Health of Towns Bill as an
illoceddered and uncoutitutional mums. He held in his
hand a ration from a real dstriat in South Devon, near
Boater, when an haperveasat bill bed been obtained at
cossiklutehis es* bat wink wand sew be reared widow
by link' bang inlaid in the jerisdistion of the
reeperaties sad ealtested le heavy rates. The bill
bad ben well none& at ; bet zany who pagaioned in
its hoer bad net bona what they ware petlitlealag hr.
11 was a non mmosentatiemel neelsers ; beltwinaft ell
weirs to hide& twral &Win ie sansuret be
turns. n. ...idiom us idegenalle dist the bia send pea
this swim.
Mr. PROTHEROI sail be *old gist the bill his meet
tirri: Hlsvaliewl tiseell="wilitle bill wleirth tlrdl7,l7t
naiads the dike of Laski awl estadense. (Hear.)
Mr. BUM also regeried the seems' en
MONS of its saliesteg so huge • ossiWer tb std
.
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ti psi
riseigie this bill=the INDIA the weitge egos
pollieseal bs to mend *sigh& eh* Oreerey a.
this need of the preened ereffekelearee• Wend the
oils Li sewn le ausept flessatheitil arnadamili
one* diseinese nob Ism its egnatise t ifeadaleno
elm Aims alibis blab releis eirdirstipoilii•
be wobil atill_nethe bill as It =.lgle=ya
VieseneMaT sea the was
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anis to inn& eerie sena at goon bored then bows-

darks.
Mr. BROTHARTON was assisted that the bill was a
good one, end he baled the gememist wad pevie it for-
ward. Dr. Lyon Pima bad istimetel the east of the re-
movable loam aad &nth, in Marie seer sad Salford
wine, St • ttsi los imam Conederieg the ma Ueda
sonibered on landownive by the hidulay of
tarea—is miry sera lerty had ban gadrepled ka.valas
—nay alight set to arta if they wen celled ea to mita-
tele bi a tei4Mtereelle the isprevemest of theme towns.
Mr. BORTHIWIC emplaned al *a Ineiplanty of the
distsmiesoadthaerhase been am in dies oa the
=bthat the de leave the chair. He then al.
roll the la* as the ad ks .1 Pasaddc Mid add.
*et de tight beta lb: Illeabiuo (Mr Mama. y)
MI shaded him withegrapitlig Sea. In redeem
le this, he woad read a istber-hat Slow A. C. de en-
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(as we andeseleed). Math stead dist what was
conveyei ha • invites_ erestambitien to the
hillnaember, wan that the jests had set Mss warned in a
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from giblided dessespestleate bedlam
alma tebythe right Us. melba ateMdtabur sad osa-
laid that it did not Mir old the twlrby e hon. gat-
lielisa The junta oral? iseidad a Maranon not to
lettbpir alp put to me, es there iris bility they
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be tides. it was tberight by the junta that the Bad& &vt
Vaireting fairly to boa the queen's gwernm
mime ent and them-
- and when the gamer were ranking peoperaratnag for
the klnte thought they shad not fte generated from
Mowing their example. , He contended Matte T ttad been