The Express.
London, England, 1848-07-25 00:00:00

as

KENDAL, July 22.—Aciain we had but a thin attend-
ance : the grain was all sold at the prices offered. Potatoes
were plentiful, at 4d. per stone of 141ba. The weather has
been very wet during the past week. Averages for the
week ending July 22:—Wheat 23 qrs 535. 6d. ; Oats, 51
qrs., 235.

• ',CASTER, NV 22.

...dr Mullet has beta a IRO!
ate"brisker. A goo. 5e..., tor Meal, at 28s. 6d. to 295, paw load ""
2401b5. Wheat au,' in good demand at 335. 63, (11 oaga. pa.
per load of 2801 b• ' • • . --. over la,t area's n:
,ea.
have 1.- • ~ oeing 3i. auva.e- ~... so.. ...OM
hew
- ...Al UnfliVOUrable weather sintice_r,..7ll3,.co. •.atant
. y rains, accompanied with damage
• S. 17".
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which
dories siderable damage to tha 1,
hes
tind
wine=hpalvwedsoit_isetionotened
tgith
the
tirm........ Avast deal
thing to
of hay remains unhoused. If exectsive ~,,,,, has any
do with the potato disease, era know not what may be the
result. There were upwards of of 53 cart loads in the
market to-day, nearly all of which we examined, end
made inquiries as to their soundness ; and the almost
universal d,claration was, that they are sound, and a heavy
crop: prices to-day 4d. per stone of 14Ibs.
LEICEiTER, July 22.-Odr market brisk. Wheat, Is. to
2s. higher. Barley, Oats, and Beans without alteration.
Wheat. 49s to 52a. Barley, 304. to 335. Beans, 38s. to 32e. 1
Oats, 24.. to 28s. Flour, tine, 37r.; seconds, 355.; thirds,
335. per sack.
Mal.rOsr, July 22.-We have a fair supply of Wheat, hat
abet of Oats. Wheat in good demand, at rather over the
rates of last week. In Oats we make no alteration. wham,
whit,,,j2s to ...Bs. per 40 stone ; red, 503. to 555. Oats, 9ld.
to 101 per stone. ,
NORTHAMPTON, July 22.-We have had a small show of
Wheat at market to-day. A good sale, at 24. to 34. more
money. Barley as last week. Oats and Beans in request,
at former prim*.
'22.-In the earl) part of the week the
Paestum, July I
trade ass languid, hut since Thursday we have had more I
doing, and the weather in the use intime having been unset-
tied, higher rate- were required. We had rather more
Wheat at our Corn.exchange to-day than last week ; farmers
held fur a considerable advance, which was not general:y
complied with ; but we aave to note a fair sale, at an amend-
ment of 61. per veinal', and Irish would have readily com-
manded a similar advance. Flour, 6d, to Is. per sack de
note
Oats Oats are more inquired for, and, stocks being.light, wthem Id. er burhel !...!;:tir. We have likewite experienced
a more general consumptive demand for Oatmeal, at an im-
provement is value of 61. per load. Indian Corn Meal, 63.
to Is. pa rre dearer. ther ar.icles bS bere. The wea-
nba thel whole, tolerably fine duringlo the day, but
ther, upo
showery this evening. The average price of Wheat this
week is 51s. 10.1. per imp. qr.
RICHMOND (Yoattanint:), July 22.-We had a very thin
supply of grain ; the prices much the same as last
3d.
3 week.
Wheat sold from 6s 6d. to 7s. 6,1. Oats, 2.. 7d. to ..
Barley, 3s. 9d. to 4s. ad. Beans, 4s. 6d. to 4,. 93. per bush.
Saucwsnear, July 22.-We hail a small attendance,
and little doing; the trade closed as follows: Wheat, Os. ,-)d.
to 61. 93. Oats, 21. 103. to 3,. 6d. per imperial bushel.
heat. rtt, July 22.-We are moderately supplied with
Wheat. The trade is firm, and all lust qualities may he
called Is. per qr. dearer. A parcel or two of Barley at mat-
ket, which sold at about former prices. In Beans and Peas
not mu. h doing, and without alteration in value. Oats
rather cheap.r. Wheat, white, 484. to 500.; red, 441. to
475. Barley, 275. to 28s. Beaus, 345. to 363. Pear, 3 ir. to
333. Oats, 225. to 265. per qr.
HAMIWRO, July 20.-Wheat: Ault. Magri. red, 110 118 ;
white, 112 122; Marks. and Brunswick, 110 118; Meek.
and Pom., 106 120 • Holstein, 103 113 ; Lowct Elbe,
100 110. Rye : Anhalt and Maga., 54 64 ; Marks.,_ Meek.,
and Pons.• 60 67. Barley: Anhalt and Magri., 60 65; Hill.
stein and 'Meek .58 66. Oats: Meek. and Holstein, 40 43
Lower Elbe 36 40.

HOPS.—Banng.—The hope ate still in a vowing state,
but the boisterous winds itemized eomc of t
ry principal bines,
atthough not to be very injurious. In sonic gds troy are fast
coining into bml. They are perfectly clean, soil bid fair at present
crop.--
(except in the event of any particular alteration) fur a good
Barna AND BassovThe hop plantations are certainly locrklag well
and growing. These cold winds will niter a cheek on them fur a short
time—BeltßA..—The bop bine continues to flourish, unchecked
by vermin or disease. The lateral shoots are rapidly tilling the
alleys. Burr is fast appearing. The prospects of &crop are unitoubt-
edly good.—" They wont be worth picking ; they won't pay more than
the expensas of picking and drying and the duty," are the niontaful
anticipations of the pianters. Strange anomaly, that that abundance
which every one eouggies to obtain, snould be by every one deemed a
curse rather than a binning.- —11111G.111.1....—The bine is progress-
ing as of late in this and the adjoining parish, except in a few gardens,
where they are getting slightly yellow, as if becoming a little are.
blasted. We have same forward gardens coming into burr very nicely.
The hops are, for the meet part, very clean, and healthy in appear.
these pa Barfly, Salmeareoea, AN. WVITIIKLO. —MC nape in
these parishes are Woking Weiland ; mod, unless they ore
torn by violent storms, there must be good crops on the
best lands when they are well poled. When hissing from an emin-
ence, they appear of a lively green, and the pike well load Wiled arth
bine. -- CANIFEItIII RV. The continued heavy gales, day er
day, battered the young hint. of the hop plant to such an extent that
very little progresa has been made in the past week. The last few
days have produced an unhealthiness in the plant, by causing it to
lore sap, and a curling of the large leaves, which, iiritead of expand-
ing, are contracting, a sure sign that Bo plant Ls nut healthy.--
EWlll'
windair.—T hole have been rather on the stand.still thip week.
These cold nds will somewhat retard their growing for O few days.
--Canstime—l bow are Mill lookine well. :tad is av,
grounds improring, but, in very 'gnawed situation., the high
winds of the List few days hive somewhat checked their
growth. The general opinion here is that we shall grow
quite our share of the amount of duty quoted by you last week, viz.,
29004. —1(6.1411.1{61i 4.—The hop bine in this neighbourhood aloes
not look quite so thriving as it did a weeor
bent tn days ago
aveie.s.o.. Some
grounds, winch are alight of bine, have reek 1M
—The late high winds have injured the hope cowl lerably in high
situations, and they do not present so go el an aptaearance as they
base dine. The bine appears to Da getting rather yellsw in some of
the gardens and an opinion prevails that they air rather going back.
Newt, a.— Our hope in this parish ant vine on exceed-
ingly well, and with fine weather we mud have a heavy
crops. The burr is fast making its appearance.—Nourin As. —The
hope are now advancing into burr, and continue to grow, but not
with that healthy luxuriance which so particularly marked their pro-
gress up to midsummer. The changeableness of the w,atlier ',Semi
materially to affect them, and many grounds which did promise fair
are now become sickly and Tellow, and willll be likely to praduce only
top crop.—Nzeivinco.—Bs e cannot say are is much improvement
t his week in our boar; some of the bine is looking rather
yellow, and the leaves have rather a worse appearance.
Rye. The hop plantatiseus aro still linking well, but
t hey require more genial weather. Owing to the rout
nights, they do not freely c =coat in burr. There are, as usug
tahl,
at a
• ariety of opinions respecting he growth; ,o/Ille contendin
they will never realise 210,0001., while others are sanruine for a
much higher duty.—fistrationi.—The state of the hop grounds is
about the same as lest week. There is n gradual improvement in the
best gardens but in many instances the nines arc not progressing
There will be a considerable quantity of sock bisie.—liiSeh,ar
WiLThe norm in this neighbourhood continue to I ink retook •
ably well; the bine is in candid c minion, and everything pnimiers a
very large duty.—tiessez Adrertiver.
--.--

HAY .--SmITHFIELD, Two o' Clock .—M ears. Cooper
and Davis report the following quotations:
Primo Mus.losr 70.. to 01.. I to -k I New Clover to, too.
Infernr toad 0en+....t3 .tolOus ntr.t.r.. Y 7.. to

teen or fourteen recommendations ; amongst others, that
the horse-guards should be placed on the same footing f
Was the
navy. Thu bad been the case, although the Duke oel-
linnton, the soldier's friend, fluted the office of Commander-
in.Chief. One great defect of our system was that there
were no rewards for civilians for distinguished services. He
understood the committee on the er imates had refused to
make any recommendation as to the army ; the duty would,
therefore, devolve on the government of carrying out the
reforms so long needed. lie entirely differed with the
Secretary-at-War in thinking that rank was of little conse-
quence to military men.
Mr. OSBORNE said that Capt. Ilogg's ineligibility to
decoration mighteasily have been removed by making hem a
major. In the case of Major l'earson, atthoagh a major, ro
decoration was given. lie was far from wishing to imply
that Lord Fitzroy Somerset was all•powerful at the horse-
guards. The case of the men he had alluded to was one of
very great hardship.
In answer to Mr. CnanvEnts,
Mr. F. MAULE said that non-commiesioneroomsd officers and
their wives were not plated in the same with private
soldiers. With respect to married soldiers, an erringetn
was in progress by which they would be enabled to provi..e
themselves lodgings out of the barracks.
Mr. OSBORNE complained of the use of shell jackets on
march, and criticised other points of regimental costume.
Nothing could be worse conducted than the whole of the
clothing department. Tie drum of the officen of the line
seemed adapted for no other purpose than to render them as
frightful 111, possible.
Mr. F. MAULE said the object of all the late alterat,ens
had been economy. In the Kaffir war, the officer, finding
that the distinction of a blue coat, while the soldir n wore
red, rendered them a mark to the enemy, laid the coats
aside, and adopted red jackets the same as those of the eel.
diem. This was also found to be a matter of convenience ;
and now the blue coats were laid aside.
Mr. HUME asked who was the mastertailor (Laughter.)
If it was not the duty of the Secretary at War to att,nd to
these matters, to venom did that duty belong ? If there
was no one responsible for it, changes might succeed each
other without end.
Mr. F. MAULE said the changes were made after being
well considered by the Cumrnanderin chief, and submitted
by him to a hoard of g neral officers.
Mr. OSBORNE said he had reason to believe that these
alterations generally emanste.l from some clothier, who pos-
sessed the ear of some general officer. He had no doubt,
so uncomfortable were the ehell-jackets, that before six
months were over, there would be another general order on
the subject.
Col. DUNNE complained of the rank given to she cap-
tains of the guards as lieutenant.colonels; they furnished
about oneth elf of the whole number. An officer of the line
could rarely attain the rank of lieut.-colonel under 20 or 30
years, and after serving in every part of the world, which
the officers of the guards were not required to do. The
system that was puvued in giving more speedy premotion
to the guards than to the officers of the line, dis
was mat t un-
just. lie had no feeling against the guards, or to th-
tinction between the guards and the line, but he thought
the fairest plan to pursue would be to promote the most de-
serving officers of the line to the guards. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. F. MAULE said that the question to which the hon.
and gallant gentleman referred, would come before the com-
mittee of inquiry. lie was of opinion that the guards should
be permanently fixed in Landon.
Col. LINDSAY said that during 32 years there were
only three instances of officers of the guards exchanging to
regiments of the line.
Mr. OSBORNE said that the commands of stations were
given to guardsmen. He had no objection to the guards,
and he believed if they were to have • monarchy, that it
would be necessary to have guards. He denied that they
were peculiarly fit for London service. The only remelt
why captains in the guards were lieut.-colonels was, that it
was considered advisable to have those about the court
general efficen. It was unjust to the officers of the line that
they should he promoted for such a reason
eneral officers
Col. ANSON said that the average age of g
in the guards was about GO, which was as high as in the
line. With regard to the fitness of the guards for London
duty, he did not say that other troops were not able to per-
form that duty, but he believed no one would deny that the
guards perforated their duty efficiently, and that the line
were but too happy when they found themselves brigaded by
the guards.
Col. DUNNE did not assert any superiority for the line,
and he would not admit any inferiority. He believed that
no Irishmen were admitted into the guards.
Cul. LINDSAY said that he knew one regiment in which
there ware some Irishmen. Bet there was certainly an in-
disposition to take Irishmen or Scotchmen into the guard.,
because the corps of guards was distinctively national.
Mr. OSBORNE said that with respect to the nationality
of
The W, moat
ch, of the 42nd Highlanders, called
The Blaat" who fought at Waterloo, were Irsh-
men. (Lauehter.)
Sir 1). L EVANS complained that no mark ocrecognition
hod been given to Gen. D'Aguilar and Col. Brereton fur their
distinguished services in the Canton war.
I oril PALMERSTON bore testimony to the skill, energy,
and ability, displayed by the officers in question, which had
been followed by results so be..e ficial to the commercial inte-
rests of this country. (Hear.)
Mr HUME, before the vote was passed, wished to con-
gratulate the htusu ors the staters( discipline which existed in
the army, notwithstanding the disuse of corporal punish-
ment. (Hear.) That was extremely satisfactory to those
who advocated its abolition. (Hear, hear.) With respect
to the amount of the vote, he considered there was great
room for reduction. They were not row likely to be invaded,
so that he thought the number of men could be reduced. lathe
years 1834,1835, and 1836, the average number of men in
the army was 86,500. It was now 113,000. In addition to
this number there were 15,000 invalids enrolled. There were
yeomanry and militia and a police force of 23,000. In Lon-
don thete were 5,338 policemen ; in the boroughs of Eng-
land there were 4,400 ; in the counties, 2,509 ; and in Ire-
land there were 10,639. He was greatly surprised at the
increase in the police force. The number of men in the
navy was now 43,000 instead of 27,000: in the ordnance,
13,000 instead of 8,900. Without including the artillery,
nthe believe
countryd there were now
enough no less th 236,000
any country.
He should n ove that the vote be reduced by 445,0001.,
though he did not mean to divide the house upon it.
Mr. F. MAULE said he would not enter into the details
which had been uentioned by the hon. member, as the sub-
ject vould come before the committee of iequiry ; but he
would ask whether there was anything in the state of
Europe or in the state of their own country (hear, hear)
which would justify them in reducing the army now ? (Hear,
Th army was rot more than they ought to hare,
and he only trusted in Providence eta
might be found suffi-
cient. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. OSBORNE said that he had brought a plan before
the bekse by which 2,000,0001. of money might be saved
without reducing the army by a single man, but it bad been
disregarded. The great question which the people of this
country had no V to decide was, how they were to pay all
these forces. The i :crease of the police force in the metro-
polis might be accounted for by the number of new streets
which are added every year to the metropolis.
Mr. 141:11E'S amendment was then negatived without a
division, and the vote agreed to.
On 168,2371., for the expenses of the general staff officers
and the garrison officers of the Tower of London being
moved,
Mr. HUME thought th_t great reduction mightbe effected
in this item.
Mr. OSBORNE objected to having two general officers,
one commanding the army and the other the ordnance. One
person was suthei,nt to perform the duties of Commander of
the Forces and MasterGeeeral of the Ordnance. Then
there was 900/. a year for the Duke of Wellington as Gover-
nor of the Tower. lie would knock off 1,000/. a year from
the Governor of the Tower. Then there was the Tower
Major. No person could say who be was. Then there was
the chaplain, the physician—although there were the army
surgeons—and the apothecary to the Tower, who had 101. a
year. (Laughter.) Then there was the gentleman porter
with SO!. a year—Daughter) ; and the gentleman gaoler with
601. (Laughter.) Then there were 40 yeomen warders, as
ii there were no troops. lie would try to do away with the
whole thing, and move that the vote be reduced
3,9111. Is. Bd.
Mr. F. MAULE, said the whole of the Tower establish-
ment had been under a review of a committee of that house,
and they let it stand as it was. lie should be the last man
to vote urder any circumstances to deprive of a place of
honour that noble and gallant officer who did no much ser-
vice for hie country. (Hear.)
Mr. OSBORNE said the hon. gentleman tried to rid* off
up-to the Duke of Wellington. lie would say nothing fa
disparagement of that illustrious individual ; but as the
right hon. gentleman made reference to his services, he I
(Hear
would sa in reply tco
hat the untry had ampl reprathfiaid them. I
hear.) lie had two regiments, and Syteldsaye,
and other things.
Col. LINDSAY said that the gentleman gaoler and the
gentleman warder were not appointed by the governtuationsment.
They were non-commissioned officers, and the Fi
were given them as something better than retiring pensions.
Mr. OSBORNE protested against debasing noncommis-
sioned officers by railing men who had served their country
gentlemen porters and gentlemen gaoler.. If they served
thi it country let them get suitable pensions. The country
would not object to that. But let them nut be paid by being
made gentlemen porters and gentlemen gaoler'. (Hear.)
lie would divide the house.
Atter a few words [ram Mr. Home and Major BLACICALL,
The committee divided—For the amendment 21
Against it ...... 69-48
The vote was accordingly paned.
On the next vote, 96,5901. for the charges and expenses of
the public departments,
Mr. B. OSBORNE said this charge was lumped together
in a most extraordinary way. lie regretted to find fault in
a matter affecting an office so well filled as that of the Judge
Advocate General was at the present time, but for the life of
him he could net understand what the use of that office was.
It was an office usually given to a barrister who could get
no briefs, and he really thought many a briefieas barrister
could be got to fill the post for one fourth the cost. lie
hoped, therefore, that his friends would support him in a
motion that the elpence of the Judge Advocate General de-
partment be reduced 3,0001. per annum. (Oh.)
The JUDGE ADVOCATE.GENERAL thought it really
surprising that the gallant gentleman who had himself
served, should not know better than to depreciate the office
which he had the honour to hold. The duty of the Judge
A tvocate was to examine and report upon all the courts-
martial which were held in the army, and they amounted
to nearly 60,000 per annum. Besides this, constant and
continual references were made to the Judge Advocate by
the Horse Guards on points of great delicacy and
difficulty. lie said nothing as to the salary of
the Judge Advocate—that was a point upon which
he hoped be should not be asked to ;give any
opinion. This, however, he begged to remark, that
of late years not only had the duties of the office been much

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Mr. HUME, having been one of the.)
ddeuPutiestmort.he Judge Advocate Genhefcori.altmhinemtwejienturtetdeigneoef.teazierdadegyetioweinthe.l:7,
arduous. The present Judge Advocate bad sat for sem'!"
weeks upon an inquiry respecting
ftohuolludrst.teaßgres.h°o Stthr3d°oeualltg:Cht*tEdao'all idt(hLietauudgasuhtittneosr;
might be performed by leis deputy.
Vote agreed to, as were the following :
19,1611. for the I 'thetas a of the Itoy.el Military Asylum,de-
'
80,309/. for the e epee's,' of the volunteer corps
15,507/., for allowance, and rewards for milit iry services,
20,0.101. further vote for the pay of general cafe, re.
Mr. 1112 ME remark' d on this vote that he thought the
number of primula metre to. large.
Mr. B. OSBORNE said the way general officers were
paid was perfectly disgraceful. They a'esolutely made wee,i,-
hwaasd :7tiodui.ical-'ltate
money out of the seed. gs of the re gimental clothing, their
--
ot them, as fur instance, the Marquis of Londonderry,B se
saidthe Lhisy,q.uedattihaont
doubt, lost money by the system, hut the asst m hee If-
what he complained of. It was no use, however, to talk apes was
this aubject to the Reese of Commons. Few memberski
anything *bone the army, and still fewer cared about it.
"
twenty times, ano it had never been found that any better
syst-in than the present could be adopted. It eir,s aey
thi:trite. oFr.kMedAwUelLißtor
the country.
Mr. H U ME said amajority of the house had, after
inquiry,
agreed to the continuance of the existing system. and he,
therefore, was not pre pared to raise a eli•cusdupon the
on
subject. At the •eme time, he did not approve of
the system.
Mr. F. MAULE said it was impossible for any ghee
officers to mike money unfairly by the existing se stem.eal
Sir W. CLAY thoogot the system very olneetiouble.
Mr. B. OSBORNE said if the army clothiers were ex.
ant'ned before a committee, they would trove that many
general officers made from 8001 to 1,000/. a year by red.
mental clothing. They were making their general ethins
army clothien, nothing el .e.
57,0001. for charge of full pay of retired offioers.
6,0001. (in part), for charge of half-pay and allowances of
retired officers.
47,3861. for charge of half-pay and reduced allowances of
officers of disbanded foreign corpe, &a.
29,5301. (in part) for charge of pension' of widows, fea
38 0001. (in part) for charge of allowances on comp...Weems
list, &c.
26,7741. for charge of Chelsea and liihntinham holpisla
223,8101. (in part) for charge of out pensioners of Chelsea
hospital, &c.
37,5001. for superannuation allowances, &c.
These resolutions were ordered to be „-ported to the homes
to.morrow (this day), aid
The house then resumed.
INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion for the third re eding of this bill,
Sir L. O'BRIEN observed that, as be had opposed this bill
when first introduced, he wished to say that he hoped the
amendments made to it would be favourably considered in
another place. He should not press his opposition farther.
Col. DUNNE expressed his entire divent liom the bill,
which he still thought calculated to do great injary to
Ireland.
On the question that the hill do pass,
The SOLICITORGENERAL moved the insertion of a
clause providing that notice of sale should be given in all
cases to remainder men i a personal notice wherever possible,
or in other cues an equivalent notice.
The clause was inserted.
Mr. MONSELL (in the absence of Mr. Bouverie) moved
the insertion of tb • yellowing clause:
to the further or additional duty (of equal amount well tier
duty oat
single deed ore by any wt ether eaproo.ly or by re (rioter made
eharemble • and that, in lieu of all other stamp duty whoMever :ex.
ceps
the pr4resnive duty), there shall be chargeable, on all unarms
under tht• act cm which the purchase se consider:Mem money therm
or thereupon tames...ea plain not amount 0 2,Ureof., an ad raiaros
duty of Ga. for every 5431. of such numb.: or coesater.ition moms
and the like sign for any emalter or fractional part of :.of.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that,
And be it enacted, that no illAlll owe under this act Mall be subject
Maw, or bargain and sale for a year), with s hien comer:laces do
from fiscal considerations, he must on principle object to the
introduction of the provision.
Mr. MONSELL supported the clause as calculated to en.
courage that wnich was gencmhy admittea to be a point of
great importence, the sale of estates in small pillions.
ale. B. OSBORNE also supported the provision. The
alleviation of the stamp duties in Ireland was most essential
to the material itIIeTtIIIII of that country.
The Earl of LINCOLN hoped the hon. gentleman would
' not divide the house on this motion, because in no doiox he
1 might imperil the success of the measure itself; and, still
' more, prejudice the satisfactory revision, which he hoped
would be at are early period, of the whole system of stamp
duties on the transfer of landed property in Ireland. (lime
hear.) There was no question but that this measure must
he followed up by MOM, tending ire this and in other prune
lam to ameliorate the social condition of the sister country.
air. HUME said it was quite clear that it the goverment
wished the bill to be of use in Ireland they would lateen
the suggestion of the hon. member. What was wanted is
ir
Ireland was tl-te means of affording employment to the
bourers, and that could only be done by facilitating the
transfer of land.
Mr. GOULBURN expreesed a hope that the hon. member
would not persist in leis amendment, as if aereci to it wink
tend to render incurnences more numerous. lOttl A
revision of the stamp duties on the transfer of land ma
much required, and tee was sure the Chanceller of the
cm-
In
chequer would do right to take that subject into serious
eideration.
Mr. EWART was of opinion that the whole of the nine
duties on the transfer of land both in England am Inked
o to ught be revised.
Mr. HENLEY thought that by making one oneraioa
the government had drawn down upon thentvelves the vie
sent one for a remission of the stamp duties ill Ireland. 'He
1, must oppose the amendment.
After a few words from Mr. DUVMMOND and Sir A.
Bnoong,
The house divided.—For the clse .......... 55
Against it a
.u............. 114-9
The clause was consequently lost.
Sir L. O'BRIEN moved two clauses as riders to the bell-
the hint to prevent selling more of an estate than Wed nem
nary to clear off the incumbrances ; the second to prevent th
family mansion from being sold until the malting ova of
the estate had been found insufficienttoredee cmtheli mime*
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL opposed vie mes, n
the ground that they would operate injuriously on de
general effect of the bill.
Sir J. WALSH supported the clauses,which he contendia
injurious oorraoein of*
would in seine degree correct the ,
bill. He hail no desire to prevent the sale of heavily wear
bested estates in Ireland, but he was most desirous to fee
vent small encumbrancer, or tenants for life forcing roper!
into the market unnecessarily at a time when it molder!
be sold at a ruinous price.
Col. D CNN E also supported the clauses sfter
few words from Mr. GROGAN, were negatived.which, I
The bill was then puled.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND, No. 2) BILL.
The house having gone into committee on this WI,
lir. GOULBURN havin remar u the predict ee
nuking advanems to 'lreland oat of ked
the pon console laud fum,
said that the advance made in 1617 we' e)
be paid in a certain number of iasta
ecllments. In
object of the bill was to repay out of t usiedina
fund the sum of 1,000,0001., which would °thereat' te,
helm.
available for the general resources of the empire. li ,
ted fiato.
was to pay the money, itshould go intothe cousolide . ,
and the sum necessary far Ireland be voted natal that hce..
But if the government meant to relieve Irsltnelsy so Idtagf.tT
. from the payment of this sum, they ought to i.- :.
ought to declare at once that it could not be levied wanes:
impoverishing the Irish population and then elk lieT:
meet for the amount, distinctly ;toting what
inseleewets
public works to which it was to be applied,
leaving the matter in the hands of the TressitresT;
power to continue those works
which had already row
. useless and unproductive. •
Mr. HUDSON protested altogether agaiast the Pow
of the bill.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER aid ttg
the object of thls bill was simply to enable the lits 7
through tree Board of Works, to lend money to the ga,..
juries on presentment for the purpose of completing::,'
works as the grand juries might think proper—the ra,
be carried on under their own euperintenilence. ,"
government did not intend to letroduce the *
chinery of the Board of Works, or otlol2,
interfere with the mode of outlay, but leaves
fataler";
t o the conties theselves. At present he d n
would lie advisable mfor this country to call en Della OLP.
payment ; but the government would do so tkemogina.7.;
saw that Ireland was in a sufficiently prosperow pan'''.
respood to the call.
Mr. CARL/WELL took the same view of the earan.ft!
the right hon. gentleman, the member for the Univere!„
Cambridge—hoping the house would not depart h'oo,;.
ordinary mode of expending money drawn Ma the Ls.
selidated Fund.
Dr. BOW RING regretted that parliament had ,
City against these loans to Ireland being converted into f•';
' either by that country's inability or unwillingness terit
He complained, too, of the unsatisfactory rater, of '.d
counts of the Board of Works. Indeed, the whole sesa,,
Irish expenditure demanded a searching then whole
from the Treasury downwards there seemed to
inbetaa l;
helplessness to protect the revenue. The evil was 0
and ought to he put an end to.
Major BLACKALL said that it would be
found tbg II
.
loans which were given to Ireland were as fairly fascia. 7.
as any given to this country. The hon. member
namely he thought would see that his objection to 01:47;
, that the object fee which the loan was iTall
not stated, was met by the bill which specified the,
the loan. The house should pause before it reg
its sanction to a bill which would prove a very mat.:::,-,,
Ireland, as it would give employment token, re
of the starving populitkese f the fi.t.
Mr. S IAk'FORD said that the Chancellor o ~ so
chequer had mixed the question of the poor 1an.....wn1e0.
question. The poor law had no bearing on the nEf.o.d
ever. lie held in his hand a petition from t!15.e...0 le
Clare, protesting against this bill, signed hi...! ~,,,e ew
spectable gentlemen in that county. As for nia
_ye
stituents, he believed that, if he did not make a° It, b,
to the bill, so easily was million after million ii 161st a
land, none of them would have known anvilnee.f7o
It was not by voting million after millioit.tefoo
would do anything for the benefit of tlr. o.`" glir
it was by teaching the people self. reliance. Be

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