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architects.
Lord MORPETH said he bad received the reports of these
parties, and had intrueed them to a person to put them into
a connected and manageable form. Until that had been
done he could not answer the hon. member's question.
THE NAVIGATION LAWS.
Lord G. BENTINCK wished to know whether there
would be any objection to lay on the table, as a counterpart
to the Canadian correspondence on the navigation laws, the
memorials agreed to in St. John's, New Brunswica, which
took an entirely ditlerent viow of the question? That pro-
vince being extensively engaged in shipbuilding would
sffer !rose severely from any alteration. He wi, als to
ask,whether there would be any objection tobed the
table on the
table the correspondence which had been received fromwhich the
Governor of New Brunswick, containing a petition
had been presented to the House of Assembly, and the pro-
test of the Queen's Attorney-General delivered in that
the
as-
sembly ? (The noble lord here read from a newspaper
speech m question, which violently deprecated say change
in the navigation laws to please Manchester men, whose souls
were in their spinning jennies, and who cared nothing for
the interests of the colonies.)
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that any correspoodence which
had come from the colonies in the usual manner would be
laid en the table; but the speech of the Attorney-Geueral, he
feared, could not be produced without infringing on the
privileges of the House of sembly. (A. laugh.)
DUTIES.
Mr. G. THOMPSON wished to ark the Chancellor of the
Exchequer the queson which he load laced on the paper,
nsmely, whether the refined sugars of o pur bonded-sugar re
fineries would be allowed to pay the same rate of duty I
levied on Dutch refined sugar on delivery from the dock or
a bonded warehouse ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was under-
stood to say that he had not by law power to do what the
hon. member asked, but he proposed to introduce a bill
enabling him to do so.
Mr. BARELY had understood that foreign sugar might
be refined in bond for consumption in this country. lie
wished to know whether it could he admitted fur home con-
sumption without infringing oti the navieation laws?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER must de
cline answering the question until his measure had been
brought forward. He could only say that, although opposed
to the navigation laws, he did not wish to attack them in an
underhand manner.
Lord G. BENTINCK said that the right hon. gentleman
had asked for time to explain his difficulty respecting the
sugar duties. He wished to know whether the right hon.
gentleman had as yet made up his mind as to the course he
was to pursue ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had already
said that in committee he would state the intentions of
government. He had seen the chairman of the customs, and
had been informed that not single pound of sugar had been
admitted nor had any one demanded admission on the score
of the mistake.
Lord G. BENTINCK thought the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequi r should state, for the information of the house and
the country, whether he had assured himself that the duty
of 13s. a cwt. on Jamaica sugar was the proper duty to be
levied under the resolution of the house—that resolution
stating that that amount of duty should be levied on colonial
sugar the produce of these colonies only where the imports
of foreign sugar was prohibited.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could only
answer that he was now levying the exact duty which, under
the resolution of the house, it was intended should be levied
on colonial sugar.
Lord G. BENTINCK.—But the "correct" duty?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—The duty
expressed in the resolution he believed to be the correct one.
(Hear, hear.) Under the British Possessions A
cte the
I im-
port of foreign sugar was prohibited in ourtlndia
colonies, and though there might be in the tariff of Jan.aica
a duty fixed on such sugar no act of the colonial legislature
could repeal an act
THEE
ITALIAN STATES.
Mr. imerial legATESislature.
.
Mr. ANSTEY, who complained of the absence of the
noble lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, th
ked whetherough he had
had notice that the qu,:stion was to be put, as
the correspondence with the variousltalian states in reference
the
to the revolutions in those states, which two months ago
noble lord had promised to look over with a view to ascertain
if it could be properly laid on the table, had been so exa-
mined, and with what result? He also: wiahe Ito know
whether there was any objection to the production of the
correspondence between the noble lord and Mr. James Mills,
whose petition he had presented half an hour ago on the
subject of his claim for compensation on the French govern-
meet?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could give
no answer in the absence of his noble friend (Lord Palmer-
ston), with whom, however, he would communicate, and
who would doubtless be in his place to-morrow.
CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS ACT.
Mr. C. BARELY inquired of Sir It. Peel if he intended to
move for a hill to alter so much of this act as left the fin dity
Of the certificate of the exarni..er of recognisances, as to the
validity of the recognisaaces, &matter of doubt?
Sir It. PEEL did not contemplate the introduction of any
bill on the subject. The question of defective recognisances
had been inquired into, but the result did tatt show that
which
any
alteration in the law was necessary, as th fficulties
had in some cases occurred might be prevented by due

ttentaon.
Col. SIBTHORP would like to know whether those
members of the government who did not attend to their
duty is that house, were in the receipt of their salaries?
(" Hear, hear," and a laugh.)_
SAVINGS BANK (IRELAND).
Mr. HERBERT inquired if government was prepared
with any bill on this subject, the motion of the hon. member
for Dublin having been withdrawn, on the understanding
that government would take up the question ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied
that a bill had been submitted to bun on the subject, which
he had returned for the introduction of certain amendments,
since which he had not *emit.
EVICTED DESTITUTE POOR (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. BERNAL reported that the Lords had agreed to a
conference on the amendment, to this hill, and had appointed
the same to take place lon. diatcly. Sir G. Grey, Sir W.
Somerville, Mr. C. Lewis, Mr. Stafford, and other members
were appointed a committee of conference on the part of the
Commons, and having conferred with the committee of the
Lords, reported that the committee bad delivered in their
reasons for disagreeing with the Lords' amendments.
INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL.
The SOLICITOR.GEN REAL having moved the order
for the further consideration of the report on this b.ll,
Mr. NAPIER rose to move the omission of clauses 30 to
3 inclusive. He said that the bill, as it now prey rated it-
self, consisted of two sets of clauses wholly irreconcilable
with each other, and contended that they should confine
themselves to the first set, and test the operation of the mea-
sure by them before they proceeded to deal with the second.
He complained generally of the bill as au unnecessary anne rust d
interference with private rights—that it gave no pro-
tect ion to persons claiming in remainder under settlement ;
and argued that of all periods the present was the most in-
appropriate for PO extensive, so vexatious, and so ruinous an
interference with the landed property of Ireland as the men-
gore would occasion. The hon. and learned gentleman con-
eluded by moving that the bill be recommitted, with the
view of proposing the omission from the hill of clause 30 (A),
lite subsequent clauses to clause 43 (0) inclusive, and clause
52 (P).
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL resisted the motion, con
tending that there was nothing in the bill at all inconsistent
it ' 1
with .sound justice and policy ; while those portions of
objected to by his hon. and learned friend were precisely
similar ti portions of measures adopted for this country, and
the practicJl operation of which fudy justified the govern-
ment in introducuor them into this bill. If they refused to
mum a manure because it was opco to the possibility of
fraud, they never could have any measure at all. He
had
no fear whatever that fraudulent sales would take place
under the provisions of this bill, u they were care fully
guarded against by the ample notices and other precautionary
steps required. One of the great advantages of this bill was
that its plain and simple machinery afforded the means of
giving a decd of conveyance of the cheapest possible clescrip-

had —a deed which would be operative upon all pawns who
had incumbrances on estates just u they were executing
parties to the conveyance. Without such a measure as that
now under gonsiderstion, it would be impossible to produce
that system so desirable in Ireland, namely, the formation
of small holdings. He Implored the house to pasa the mea-
sure, the whole object ot which was to benefit Ireland by the
improvement of the tenure. For himself he would say that
he should be glad to see a similar measure adopted with re-
spect to
suspicion
and therefore he hoped to be exonerated
front a suspicion of legislating on different terms for Great
Britain and Ireland. On all three grounds he hoped the
house would not hesitate to adopt this billm.
ent.
Mr. SADLIOR lupported the amend
Mr. NEWDEOATE supported the amendment. lie
charged ministers with proceeding recklessly to divide pro-
perty, and establishing a modified form of communism, and
said that they would soon be chued (rein their seats amidst
undisguised and unmitigated contempt.
Mr. FAGAN hoped the government would persevere wit
this measure, especially that portion which had proceeded
from the lion. and learned Solicitor-General. He rejoiced
that ministers had at length admitted the necessity of •
change In the tenure of land in Ireland. No improvement
could be looked (or till the land was emancipated from the
payment of an incumbrance of three millions a year, out of
an annual rental of twelve millions, great part of which was
receivable by absentees.
Col. DUNNE said the additional clauses had an object
entirely different from the original intention of the bill. The
Irish members lad done all in their power, in a conference
with the Solicitor General, to accelerate the business of the
house ; but as these objectionable clauses had now been in-
troduced, they must necessarily be eliscus eel. The Irish
menu ers had no objection to a fair bill for liberatin p a door
to fraud and litigation which would be perpetuated for years
in Ireland. In that country one-half of the titles were par-
liamentary titles, some not older than William 111. ; and it
would be a great evil to introduce further uncertainty into
titles there. The gteatest law authorities in Ireland did not
approve of this measure, neither did the Lord Chancellor ap-
prove of it, for he did not send it from the other house
in
this form. As to absentees, he doubted whether the large
city companies holding land in the north of Ireland per-
formed their duties ; and if the principle was once recognised
of levying penalties on those proprietors who neglected their
deities, it was difficult to ore how far the principle might be
carried. This weavers was supported by many because it
would facilitate the sale of lands in small portions. lie be-
lieved this would be one of the greatest miseries to that
country. It was quite a delusion to suppose that hu
onge
e
masses of capital were locked up there ; no
could hold more than 2001. in a savings bank,
and what kind of estates would these small sums
purchase ? Even if this were done, it would inflict
the greatest injury on the people, as had happened in
France and Switzerland. Ile had telt great doubts a 8 to the'
extent of the powers of sale which this bill would confer ;
opinion of an eminent conveyancer hail been taken that day,
and he said the bill would empower tenants for life to Fell
the fee-simple even for their own benefit. A meet cairn-
tionahle part of the measure was the expense which would be
incurred by the sales ; the money would have to be paid in-
to the Court of Chancery, and could not be taken out with-
out the consent ef all concerned ; hence, there would be the I
search for titles, and all the other expensive processes, just
the same under the additional clauses, as under the original
ti.As t the evils of Ireland, he hesitaed not to s tt,
hellir realo
source was bad governmentt ; he haday heardha
the Viceroy himself declare that the whole system
of that country was iniquitous. Could any
now
one
look at the wide spread sys em of agitation
prevailing in that country and say that it bad its origin
was
in
the tenure of land ? ihe fact was, when a grievance
brought before the legislature, it was never redressed ; not a
single desirable measure had been adopted this session ; even
the franchise bill had been abandoned ; and looking at the
present state of Ireland, though he did not apprehend that
any violent outbreak would occur, the necessity of adopting
VW really remedial measure was never more apparent. It
was not such a bill as this which wash anted, which would
tend to the confiscation of all propert
Mr. P. WOOD considered this the most important Irish
measure that h.id yet been submitted. it had been intro-
duced, not only on account of the state of the ceuntry, but
to give a suitable legal remedy to those incumbrancers who
I had legal rights. Ile bad no doubt it would cause capital to
flow into Ireland, and bring land into cultivation; but this
was not the ouly advantage, the real ground of the bill
, was to give a legal remedy to those who had
' legal rights. lie denied that it had any tendency, as had
been alleged, te produce communism or levelling ; and he
could see nothing in the causes now introduced which
should produce such effect more than the bill as it was ori-
ginally brought from the other house. The late earmem for
Kinsale (Mr. Watson) had ably exposed the grievance ari
sing from property being placed under receivers, and stat
d
e
an instance where on a property yielding 7,0001. or 8,0001.
a year only 2001. had been expended in repairs for a length-
ened period. One object of the bill was to remedy this
grievance by enabling the owner, the first incumbrancer,
and the person holding the title-deeds to sl originally of
court. This was provided by the bill II it stood;
but so defective was this provision that the bill would have
been perfectly inoperative in those cues where it wes most
needed. Another objectionable provision was the obligation
to sell the whole of an estate and to pay
off all the iocumbrances at once. (Hear, hear.)
This was now remedied by the additional clauses.
The ineumbrancer woeld new have the option of
' offering the estate for sale in such manner and in such por-
tions as might be most advantageous, the rights of all
parties being regarded and provided for. It might be said
there was a greater chance of fraud under the additional
claims ; but the house might rely on it that where there
was a determination to commit fraud it would be perpe-
trated, whatever were the provisions against it. The objec-
tion of the hon. member for Warwickshire, that this hill
would had to morcellement, was most extraordinary and
unfounded. At present, out of 691,000 farms in Ireland, no
fewer than 663 000 were under fifteen acre.. This state of
things had taken place without the bill ; and his belief was
that it would produce an opposite effect, by offering greater
security to capital. and getting rid of all the exiting charees
and subleases. He remembered a suit coenected with the
property of an Irish nobleman, on which there were nu-
merous claimants; and one of these, after his claim was
long resisted, got a receiver appointed over 300 tenants,
occupying wretched little farnueof fire or 'ix acres, which
was just equal to nothing at all. The effect el the bill would
he to render the sale of property in Ireland more rapid and
satisfactory than it was at present. It gave no additional
right of sale, but it made the right of sale which now existed
more summary. And when they considered the condi ion of
Ireland, and the frightful state of cultivation in which the
land was, he thought that they wou'd be neglecting
•their
duty if they interposed a moment's delay to the insane of
each a measure—the most remedial, he must say, that had
yet been proposed for that country. (H. at, hear.)
Mr. HENLEY said that the hon. and learned gentleroaa
who had just sat down, like the hon. and learned Solici-
tor-General, had given a large end general deserip- I
lion of the advantages of the bill ; but neither
of them had attempted to meet the points raised
by the hon. and learned member for the University of D
in the
üblic.
Major BLACKALL said that he enirely agreed
view of the measure taken by the hon. and learned
gentleman the member for the University of Dublin,
namely, that as the bi'l stood at present there was
nothing to prevent a person having a life estate only from
selling it, to the detriment of the remainder man.
Mr. VILLIERS did not think that the hon. and learned
Solicitor-General said that the tenant for life would have the
I power of selling the estats. What he understood h'm to wee,
was that she tenant for life could not sell the estate without
the consent of the incumbrancers. If that werurablee so,
the ground of objection taken by the hono
gentleman (Major Blackall) was taken away,
w fur
that the I
only objection urged by the hon. gentleman as,
a person having a life interest was empowered by the bill to
sell the estate. The rights of the person in remainder were I
duly protected by the bill. The greatest benefit would be'
obtained from allowing land to come into the market. The
policy involved in the present measure interested not only
the people of Ireland but the people of England, for the con-
dition of the people of Ireland was seriously affecting the con-
dition of the people of England. (Hear.) The .arge towns of
England were oppressed by the increase of sates,owma chiefly
to the influx of Iri-h paupers. There was not a manufacturing
town or commercial port in England that was not interested
in having the people of Ireland employed at home. Much
as Irish affairs had been discussed in that house, this was
the only measure that had ever bee n introduced which
e, struck
at the real source of the evils of Deland. (H hear.)
The great evil of that country was, that the land was not a
quarter cultivate,' and the people were not employed. The
reason of this was that the land was in possession of men who
cad nut the means of cultivating it or employing labourers to
ultinte it. The present measure struck at those two evils.
Land would be brought into the market ; peratns who had
capital would Invest it in the lend, and the people would he
employed in cultivating it. He believed that if the land of
Ireland was properly cultivated there would Le no redundant
population, but that there would be a want of labour. It
had been stated in evidence that the mere drainage of the
superficies would employ 2,000,000 of people for six years.
They need not have recourse to colenisation or emigration.
There was enough for the people to do at home. Ile could
not see the least eround, OR the part of those who had the
welfare of Ireland at heart, for opposing such a measure.
Mr. NEWDEGATE wished to beg the hon. member's
pardon for contradicting him. Ile had done so under a mis-
apprehension.
Mr. STUART could not consider the want of capital on
the part of the landlords the principal cause of the evils of
Ireland. It appeared to him that the great cause of the pre-
sent bad state of that country was the tenure of land, and he
thought there never was a bill that was so eminently calcu-
lated as the present to perpetuate that evil. The measure
carefully preserved all the leases to middlemen. Why it was
a farce to talk of buying an unincumbered estate if you could
only buy it subject to the leases to this class of persons. He
had come to the conclusion that, if passed, this bill would
only add to the confusion and litigation which was said to
attend the possession of every description of property in the
sister kingdom. He believed the Irish landlords bad, contrary
to their own interest, been unduly importunate upon thissu—
b-
jut. No man in his senses, no, not even any Irishman
(laughter)—would think of purchasine an estate under any
such conditions as those impesed by this bill. If you could
frame a measure which would give a purchaser the same sort
of title as a railway title—a title free from the chance of
I litigation, which upon payment of the purchase money
would invest the buyer with immediate possession of the
I estate, he would support such a =mute ; but he did not
see how such a hat could be framed.
Mr. MONSELL ',Aid that the hon. end learned gentleman,
who seemed to think he was supporting the amendment of
the hon. and learned member for the University of Dublin.
bad not, apparently, a very clear view of the case since he
°beetled to the very clatmes gent down from the Lor,ds, which
the lion, and learned mover of the amendment had, 80 far from

resisting, perticularly supported. (Hear, hear.) In his
(Mr. lionselPs) opinion the bill as it bad come down front
the Lords would not have met the digkulties of the ow to
anything like the degree which would be attained by the
measure as it Was now proposed to teams it. He consideeed
that, in the present social condition et Ireland, this change
was absolutely neesesary. He regarded this measure as
calculated to lay the basis of prosperity for Ireland.
The house divided.—For the amendment 62
Against it 197-145
A number of verbal amendments were then introduced on
the motion of Mr. SADLFIR, and the report was agreed to.
CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS BILL
On the eider of the day for the second reading of this bill,
Col. SIBTHORP moved, as an amendment, that the bill
be read a second time that day six months. He considered
that no matter what might lie the merits of the it would
be impossible to pals it this ses,ion, and that, therefore, it
was useless to occupy the time of the house with its discus-

si;n.
Mr. HOBHOUSE seconded the motion.
Mr. lIANKBS, although concurring in a great deal of
what bad fallen from his hon. and gallant friend, yet could
not feel himself justified in supporting his amendment. He
wished it to be known that gentlemen on that side of the
house had no desire to screen corrupt practices, hut were
ready at all times to give their best exertims for their sup-
pression. He feared that the bill before the house would
have very little effect during the present year as a remedial
measure ; but he trusted that, pending useful legislation,
the boroughs now vacant would not be left unrepresented,
but that writs would be at once issued for their several
elections. Unless there were very strong circumstances as
to Leicester, he hoped the writ for that borough would be
allowed to issue, but, at all events, that the writ for Derby
would be no longer su.pended. (liege, hear.) Ile hoped
that one effect of the bill would be to establish as good a
tribunal as could be provided for the prevention of the
offence of bribery at elections. Ile must, however, protest
against confounding treating, which was merely a legal
offence, with bribery, which might be called a great national

crime.'
Mr. ANSTEY thought this measure too important to be
proceeded with at so late an hour (12 o'clock). (Oh, oh.)
Nor did he thick the house was in a ten:titer to discuss the
principle of the bin in a manner satisfactory to the country.
lie therefore moved that the debate be adjourned.
The motion having been seconded,
Lord J. RUSSELL observed that he had yielded to the
arguments of hon. gentlemen opposite who had opposed the
bill of the hon. member for the Flint burghs, not bemuse he
objected to that bill, but because he thought that on subjects
of this kind it was desirable to secure as much unanim
of tity as
possible. (Hear, hear.) Ile believed the machinery his
bill would effect the object in view, and he was very glad to
find that it met with the approbstion of those hon. gentlemen
who opposed the other measure. (Hear, hear.) That there
was so much unanimity in favour of this bill did not appear
to him to be a reason for adjourning the debate. (Hear.)
He must, consequently, oppose the hon. gentleman's mo-
tion. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUDSON had opposed the bill of the hon. member
for the Flint burghs, and should also oppose this. If they
wanted inquiry let every member make a return of the
money he had /Tent at his election ; they might then see
what boroughs should be included in the schedule. If the
noble lord would agree to this he would support th
carryingmea-
sure,
an inquiry in the way proposed.
Mr. MILES supported the principle of the bill, but did not
pledge himself to the details.
Mr. NEWDEGATE hoped the hon. member for Youghal
would not press the adjournment,
Mr. ANSTEY was desirous of having an opportunity to
Cries
state his objections to the principle of the bill. ( of
"Go on.") Not one word had yet bet n urged showing the
necessity tor such a measure. He contended that if corrup-
tion did prevail to the extent stated the remedyot t was in the
hands of the government, who might instruct the Attorney
r
General to proceed against the guilty partiesn p
people who were bribed, but the bribers.
that in But it was stated
in a respectable Sunday paper the case
of Horsham an action was pending between a
common informer and her Majesty's Attorney-Genera for
the recovery of penalties under the Bribery Act for acts
committed during the late election for Horsham on the part
of th ministetial caudidete. hy was the matter left to be
taken up by a common W ? (Hear.) At all events,
let this bill be delayed until a Sussex jury had decided on
the questions about to be brought before them.
The house then divided—F
For er the second reading 210
the amendment .. 9-207
The bill was then read • second time.
Mr. HUDSON said he would on an early day move for
returns of each member's election expinses, and of the ap-
pointments conferred by the go,' rnment on members of that
house, particularising their political sentiments. (Loud avid
derisive laughter.
BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.—SUGAR DUTIES
BILL.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that one of the members ap-
pointed to be sworn on an election committee to-morrow nut
being aware of the early sitting, he should propose that the
bowie should meet, not at twelve, hut at the usual hour, and
that the Highways Bill should he taken on Tuesday. If
the house now armed to the second reading of the Sugar
Duties Bill, he would take the committee
on it the first
thing this day, and a committee of supply immediately after-
wards.
The Sugar Duties Bill was then read a second time.
PLACES 01" WORSHIP SITES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
On the motion for the third reading of this bill,
Sir J. GRAHAM said he hoped the Lord-Advocate would
Jain him in opposing it. This bill was opposed by the dis-
I nesters of all classes, and equally was opposed by the church
at England. Its principle was most objectionable, and he
moved that the bill be read a third time that day six months.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. BO U ERI E opposed the amendment, and strenuously
supported the bill.
Alter a few words from Mr. ELLIOT and the Lotto
ADVOCATE,
The house then divided—For
st the amendment 98
Again it
The hill is consequently lost.
METROPOLITAN COMMISSION OF SEWERS.
Viscount MORPETH moved to introduce a bill to conso-
lidate the metropolitan commission of sewers. lie should
have been happy to have placed all the metropolis under one
representative jurisdiction, hut the estlnt of surface and po-
pulation was so large. and the natural districts of sewerage
being different, be did not think it advisable to do so.
At, present there existed vatious bodies of com-
missioners, possessing various powers, more or less extensive.
The commissioners appointed last autumn had been indus-
triously engaged in considering the best means of providing
for the sewerage of the metropolis ; and already. they had
effected a saving of upwaids of 4,0001. per annum in salaries.
The bill would give to the new commissioners all the powers
possessed by the existing commissioners. It also provided
that the City, being inclosed by the other districts, should be
included in the same commis-ion. so far as the sewerage o
the City was connected with that of the surrout.ding dis-
f
tricts ; and the Lord Mayor and four memo rs of the cor-
poration would be members of the commission, as far as re-
lated to the sewerage of any portion of the City. The com-
mission would also have powers of compelling house
drainage and the right of spreading the charge of costly
works over • series of years. At present he proposed
that the body entrusted with the commission should remain I
appointed by the crown, though he admitted it was de-
sirable ultimately to introduce the representative principle.
With this view the duration of the commission walla be
limited to two years ; and the COCOMiII loners would be bound
to report annually to parliament.
Mr. URQUHART said be must protest against such an
important measure at this period of the sea ion, and alter so
many other bills had teen abandoned. He should divide
against it, even at this wage.
Viscount MORPETH hoped no formidable opposition
would lie raised to the measure, as it was merely one of con-
solidation, and was essentially necessary to secure the health
of the metropolis.
Mr. ANSTEY complained of the bill being brought in at
so unseasonable an hour, and when all the City members
were absent.
Viscount 11.101tPETII said he had given regular notice of
the motion, and the City members might have been present
if they chose. His inherence from their absence was that
they had no objection to the hill being at least brought in.
Mr. URQUIIAR mrsisting in divi ling the house, the
gallery was cleared for a division • but there losing only 32
members present, the house stood adjourned at 2 o'clock till
this day.

DUBLIN F.LV:CTION COMMITTEE, YESTERDAY.—
Scrutiny continued. Fire additional you' were struck off
the sitting members' majority.

ELECTION or SnEntiTs.—A Common Hall was
held yesterday to elect the sheriff+ of London and Middle
sea for the ensuing year, in the room of Messrs. Bouslield
and Mills, who refused to serve the office. Alter the usual
formalities the diction fed upon Messrs. Chandler aad
Benson.
LAYING THE FOUNDATION-STONE OF UNIVERSITY
HALL—Yesterday the ceremony of laying the foundation-
stone of University Hall, an institution of a theological cha-
racter about to be established in connexion with University
College, took place OD the site selected for the purpose in the
rear of the college and west side of Gordon.square, in the
presence of several hundred spectators. The ceremony was
performed by Mr. Mark Phillips, late M.P. for Manchester.
DISTURBANCE ON BOARD THE CONVICT-SHIP Jus-
TlTlA.—Yesterday morning a priaoner named Edwards,
confined on board the Justitia convict-hulk at the Royal
Arsenal, Woolwich, was brought up to receive two dozen
lashes, which had been awarded him for striking one of the
guards, and threatening several others. On the boatswain
of the ship making preparations to inflict the punishment,
the prisoner raised a cry of di fiance, and in threats
towards the officers and guards of the ship. Mr. Laturell,
the newly-appointed overseer of the ship, finding matters in
, rather an alarming state, sent for the guard of the Royal Ar-
, Itillery on duty at the Arsenal, which was promptly marched
to the spot by the officer in charge. The presence of the
. I military overawed the tumultuous convicts, and the punish-
. ment was inflicted without any further interruption.
INQUESTS YESTERDAY.—TRANSMISSTON OP A MUR-
DERED CHILD BY RAILWAY.—By Mr. Mills, at the Lord
Hill, North Wharf, Paddington, on the body of a newly-
born female ehild.—Mr. George Dickenson, clerk in the
down parcel office of the Paddington station, said that on
last Tuesday bill attention was attracted to a returned parcel,
directed "Mr. 11.11, 16, Part-street, St. James's-square,
Bath," whence a most offensive smell was emitted, He ac-
cordingly directed the porter to ti,no the parcel, which he
did, and found the body of deceased in the last stage of de-
composition. It had been booked on the 11th Mat., but,
upon application being made at Pa:lc-street, it was found
that no Mr. Hill lived there.—Verdict, "Wilful murder
swing some parson or persons unknown."'

Ativat IV AV every
MAILS.
To. enema elated mails, at. Migsetbes, 10 the Mediterranean,
Egypt, Adea. Cellos, India, lineg-Komg, tbs+ will be made up on the
sewing atlas 94th July.
The nulls for Vigo, Oporto, LIANA illerbelre, Cad* and Gibraltar
will be made upon the Morning of the 87th July.
The Mails for Britian North Amadei*, and the United States,
will be made up so the ~nag of the 28th July.
The mails for New [South Wales, Van Dieman'
the
Slat S
July. Land, sad New
Zealand will be roads up on the evening of
The malls for tbelff est Coast of Africa and Madeira will be made
*pea the evening of the 91st July.
Weet India Mail., [Deluding Bermuda, Nassau, llavann
HoThe
nduras, New Orleans, Vera erne, Tampico, and Porto Paco, and
escluding dime for Madeira, Jacmcl, Carthageno, Santa Martha,
harm, Panama, Went Coast of South America, esd St. Juan-de-
Nicaragua, wall be made up on the morning of the Ind August.
The mails for the Brazils, tie Inver Plate, Monte Video, Pernate-
buoo, Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos Apes, will to made up on the
evening of the nth August.
The overland malls for Gibraltar, the lonian 'blends,
braltar, Malta, Greeta,
Aden, Ceylon, India, Hong-Kong, and China, tin liouthilizip
tpoon,will be made upon the evening of the 19th August.

NOTICE TO ADVER'rISERS.
The number of STAMPS issued by the authorities of the
Stamp-office, during 1847, to the
DAILY NEWS was 3,447.009
This, we believe, is within eight per cant. ot the number
issued to the Morning Herald, Mot/twig Chronicle, and
Morning Post, ALL PUT TOOP.TIIBIt.
In addit
Pion to the above, issued to tin DAILY NEWS,
Morning aper, there were issued tor the hventnd !Usti"
THE REPRESS 7'18,714
Which waa more, we believe, than were issued either to
,he Globe or Standard, Evening Papers.

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LONDON, FRIDAY, JULY 21.
Tue. absorbing interest which has attached toEuro-
peen affairs for the last few months has very natu-
rally withdrawn from the events transpiring in the
New World that degree of attention .o which their
importance has, in some instances, entitled them. In
ordinary times the presidential nominations in America
are'scrutinised as event s to which Englishmen cannot be
indifferent. So great and constant is the personal
intercourse between the two countries, so intimate are
the political relations by which they are bound to-
gether, so sympathetic is each to all the in-
fluences affecting t:e other, and so numerous
are the bonds of mutual dependency, in which a
vast and daily increasing commerce unites them,
that it is no wonder we should feel deeply inte-
rested, if not implicated, in the result of a contest in-
volving the character, for four years at leant, of the
executive government of the transatlantic republic.
lu general, it is not so much the personnel of the
government that affects us, as the principles
which it embodies. The present differs from
former instances ire this, that we have, to some
extol*, an interest in both ; and however little,
for obvious reasons, public attention has been
directed to it, the pending presidential contest is one
which in its result will exercise a most important in-
finence upon the political relations and the commercial
policy of the two countries. That in which this'.
country has the deepest interest is, that the leading
principles of American policy should be peace andl
low tariffs. If either of the two parties in that country
represented both of these principles, we should have no
difficultyindecidingto which to give our sympathies:
if both represented them, we might afford to be in-
difkrent as to the issue. lint, unfortunately, neither
of them is in a condition to guarantee us both. The
one party represents peace and protection, the other
tree trade and aggression. This makes it no easy
matter for us to choose between them. If the Whigs
will ensure us political amity, it will be at the risk of
'commercial hostility ; if unrestricted trade receives a
checkcau at
cause the
thet the
triumph
u handsmp e
hor of the em
the democracy
d edmococraracyMm, iatywiinl
vl
'interruption to international peace. o lbvee been-
' be the
readersinarethaelrea different dyaware
rttyh art
inwkhs,i,tetvheer
issue
really lies between Gem CASS and Gen. Taiwe, the
former being the nominee of the democratic and the
latter that of the whig party. We do not accuse
the whole democratic party of a systematically
aggressive policy, nor do we regard aggression a- a
permanent feature in the democratic creed. But
comprising as it does in its ranks the bulk of the
lower order of citizens, if such an order will be ad-
mitted to exist in America, it is the party most
susceptible to military prompting', most amen-
able to sudden impulses, and most reckless of
' consequences. A large and powerful wing of it,
composed of the democracy of the north-west,
has been until lately openly and avowedly hostile
to this country. Whether the markets which we
have recently thrown open to the produce of the
agriculturists have in any degree abated their
rancour towards us remains to be seen. It is the
possibility of this being the case that at this
moment renders the personal character of their candi-
ldate of some consequence to us. Whatever change
may have taken place in their tone, it cannot yet be
so complete as to prevent an unscrupulous leader from
taking an easy and a fatal advantage of their weak-
ness.
General CASS is pm-eminent amongst American
politicians for the constancy and bitterness of his
hostility to England. The incidents of his early life
may partly account for this. Dining the war of 1812
he took an active part on the frontier against Canada,
until he was made prisoner upon the inglorious ter-
mination of the attempt upon the province from the
side of Michigan. Sinc: his release he has almost
constantly resided in that state, w'th whose for-
tunes he has more particularly identified himself,
and in which he has accumulated an enormous
amount of property. His mansion, near Detroit, is
close to the frontier, the river St. Clair alone separat-
ing it from Canada, so that from his drawing-room
windows he daily contemplates the land of his own
captivity, and the scene on which was enacted one of
the most discreditable episodes in his country's
history. On a generous mind this might have but
little effect, but with General Cass it only
serves to keep alive the hateful remembrance of
personal and national catastrophes. In every lati-
tude and every longitude he is characterised by the
same feeling; in Michigan, or in Carolina, iu
Paris or in Washington, his Anglican animosities
equally exhibit themselves on every fitting occasio-
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