The Express.
London, England, 1853-08-27 00:00:00

LAMBETH.

Joseph Pollenslem, who represented himself as a Hun•
gatian and an officer who had (ought and bled in the
battles for freedom for his country, and who has bees in
custody for the las: 10 days and upwards, upon a charge of
forgery and fraud, was again placed at the felon's bar for
further examination. _ _ .

It having been understood that a second summons had
been served on M. Kossuth, to give evidence in the case,
the court during the investigation was much crowded.
At 2 o'clock M. Kossuth entered the court and was ac-
commodated with a seat, in the place appropriated to bar-
risters when these gentlemen attend on public business.
Mr Pierce, the barrister of the Temple, attend. d for the
prisoner as before.
The first witness called was Johannes Kineling, a Ger.
man, and pianoforte.maker; smiting at No. 33, Liverpool.
street, King's-crose, who deposed that he knew a man
named Joseph ltottenatein, said the last time he saw him
was in the month of September last when Ito was at his
house, and on that occasion 'attained at his house to 8 or
9 days. That person told him he had been a let lieutenant
in the 36th regiment in the Hungarian army, and that he
had wounds on his person. He (witness) had not seen him
since, nor did he know what had become of him. He ha :
a paper in his possession which was read in his presence,
and as well as he (witness) could recollect, its purport was
to get some work for him (I:4tenstein), and witnt ss also
recollected that there was something in that paper about a
battalion. At the time the paper was read his, witness's
wife and a Hungarian, named Keehn, were present as well
as himself. The prisoner was certainly not Kottenstein, the
person he had been describing. The latter was a tall, fine,
young man, of military appearance, and at least a foot taller
than the former. _ _

Id. Louis Kossuth was here sworn, and said the certifi-
cate produced k in my hand-writing, and the signature
thereto is mine, hut I have some scruple about the seal
attached being mine. When Joseph Rottenstein came to
me I did not know him previously. I do not recollect ex-
actly, but I believe that Rottenstein had a military bearing
and was suffering at the time from a wound on his leg. I
am frequently called upon by persons who are political
exiles fur certificates, and it frequently happens that several
persons call who are not known to me, hue if upon a care-
ful examination of them I can come to a conviction that
they are the persons they represent themselves to be, I
then give them certificates; and such I believe to have been
the case with the applicant Joseph Rottt nut in. The cer-
tificates are given to the applicants to me with the view of
procuring the partite named in them some employment—no
matter how humble—to enable them to support themselves
'in their unfortunate exile from their native country. This
object was expressly stated in tho certificate in his hand,
and it never was supposed by him that ettch certificates
could he applied to dishonest purposes ; but it appeared
that the present had been ; and the circumstance was one
of deep regret to himself and those gentlemen from his
country who thought with him.
Mr. Norton admitted that the certificate had evidently
been given with the view expressed by M. K. south, for its
la• gauge was—" It is not erne he wishes to get—but work,
be it ever so hard." (To Id. Kossuth)—From the conver-
sation you have had, M. Kossuth, with the person whe de-
scribed himself as Joseph Rottenstein, when you gave this
certificate, can you form any opinion whether the prisoner
is or is not the person to whom you have given the car
tificate ?
M. Kossuth—lt does not strike me that I have ever seen
the prisoner before; though I should not wish to state so
positively. It is my impression that this man—the pri-
soaer—is not a military man. Ile has not the bearing or
appearance of one. Yet I should not wish to state positively
that he is not so.
Mr. Norton—Then doss it strike you, after bringing your
mind back to the period of the application for the certifi-
cate, that the prisoner is not the person who represented
himself to be Joseph Rottenstein ?
M. Kossuth—The impression on my mind is this, that the
person who applied to me for the certificate, and who re-
presented himself to be Joseph R tHenstein, was a person
of military bearing and appearance, and that he was
suffering from lameness from a wound on his leg. It also
appeared to me that the applicant for the certificate be-
longed to the well-educated class.
Mr. Pierce put several questions to M. Kossuth in cross-
examination, with the view of showing that his client
must have been the person he represented himself to be,
else ho could not be acquainted with the particular move-
ments of the ex-governor during the progress of the war
in Hungary. A rough map of the different battles which
had been fought by the Hungarians in the cause of liberty,
and which had been drawn by the prisoner, was put in for
the inspection of M. Kossuth, and which was intended as
an additional proof of the truth of the prisoner's represen-
tations.
M. Kossuth looked carefully through the plan; and also,
at the prisoner's request, held a conversation at acme length
with him in the German language, and at its conclusion he
said that though he could not say that the accused wee
Lieutenant Rottenstein, it was his decided impression that
he was in Hungary during the war of independence.
Woods, the constable who has the cue in hand, and who
examined the body of the prisoner by request of the magi-
strate, here said that the only mark he could find on him
was one small white spot.
George Vicher, a German, residing in Colchester-street,
Whitechapel, said he had been in the frequent habit of
meeting the prisoner in differeet public.houres in the neigh-
tiourheod of Whitechapel sinew the time of the exhibition;
and Wood, the constahle, said that from information just re•
ceived by him, he had no doubt of being prepared on a
future day of satisfactorily proving the prisoner's guilt and
imposture by the production of Joseph Rotrenetein, to
whom the certificate had been given, himself. This person,
he understood, was at tho present time in the Penitentiary
on a charge of obtaining money by false pretences, and
therefore he should be able to produce him on a future
day,
Mr. Norton observed that this certainly would put the
cue beyond all doubt, and suggested that the best course,
if those gentleman would take the trouble, would he that
M. Kossuth should call at the prison to see if he could re-
cognise the person there as the Joseph Rottenstein who had
obtained the certificate. He (Mr. Norton) should there-
fore again remand the prisoner, for the purpose of giving
Woods, the constable in the case, and who had exhibited
much seal and ability in getting up the evidence, time to
make further inquiries.
Mr. Pierce complained that his client had been already a
long time in prison, and hoped, therefore, that no longer
time than necessary should intervene.
Mr. Norton remarked that the remand would not operate
to the prisoner's prejudice ; for, as the case at present stood,
there was one distinct charge of forging a pawnbroker's
duplicate, and four others of receiving money by false pre-
tences; and the course he (Mr. Norton) int( tided to pursue
was this, that if he shoeld turn out to he the brave soldier
he represented himself to be, he should c illy deal with hi n
fur the minor off. noes, but it en the contrary, he should
happen to be a mere counterfeit and impostor, he should
send him to trial far the forgery.
The prisoner was then remanded to a future day.
SO T 'MARK .

Thomas llspburn, cabdriver, badge 8,153, was brought
before Mr. Seeker charged with being drunk and incapable
of taking etre of his horse and cab.
Police constable 268 M said he was on duty about 12
o'clock last night in the London.road, Southwark, when he
saw the prisoner sitting on the box of hit rub reeling from
side to side. Ile had no control over hie horse, which
turned round, and the vehicle came in contact with two
other cabs, and at the same time the prisoner rolled et!' his
seat into the road insensible. Witness conveyed him to the
station-house, and afterwards took his cab and horse to the
greenvard.
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Mr. Edwin, the chief clerk, examined his license, and
Woad that he was fined by Mr. Tyrwhitt, at the Clerken-
well police court, in July last, for a similar offence.
In answer to the charge the prisoner said he was very
sorry fur being in such a situation again, and he would take
core not to repeat it.

Mr. Seckerr;aid he could not allow such a person to go
away unpunished, as he might have done considerable da-
mage by such conduct. Ile should fine him 10s., and in
default commit him for seven days. It was very likely the
commissioners would not renew the license of such a man.

LORD CAMP DELL.—Yesterday Lord Campbell sat
at the Judges' Chambers. In constqucuce of the non-
I attendance of 'judge on Tuesday there was a good deal of
buWaess. The days appointed during the vacation are
Tuesdays and Fridays.