The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-01 00:00:00

a paaessal attack ea Ws se • moral twee repealer ; be was
bated by that party. sad bad had away wattated
eleetioae to ausaU &ma thaw; bat he tow held this at

deflanee. (Laughter.)
Mr. HIRBRET be to withdraw the remark ha bad
mode, ea to Ike hon. baronet
belonging to the moral brew
Piny.
Sir W. BARRON mid he would wahine Ski hill.
Mr. REYNOLDS, before the MB was wilbdrawrltTid
there woo au advantage wbisit might monk from its
all the 'lbw se amissms hr Libra sight be repealed.
tlb Ogair,bearl
Omer So _pellse bill woe, he balieved
ME wield it lobo b
ile abode. The essatmente of
the Will Memo manneelhattleybed, to a great sectent,
beam, a aid Wart aid ho that the hon. bon-
net lei ohms se bad an oomheW kg him legislation. He
so one at Os mend hem party, to assure the hon.
that be did net We bha. Ater loan might laugh at
saathen whitest Wag bin. (Laugh.)
Mr. P. SOBOPE said ho had never seen such despotic
providers is a bill. If tale was a sample of the legislative
whits el three amisteat.harristers, it did not speak
mesh he the way in which junkie was administered is Ire-
land. (Hear.)
Sir O. OBEY said 11 wield be extremely unfair to those
three gentlemen to andoma them as having damn up the
whole of this bill, and to met men them any
obloquy that might arbi without tay 'video°,
whatever of the tact. Glandenton preheat's' oda.
cation, when in conversation with Immo. might *row out
ruggestions, which not being perfectly nadinsto4 might be
assented to ; but he could not believe NM any godson& of
talent or experience, still less a man aormokomed to
the administration of the criminal law, 'soli have approved
of the bill before the house in its present form, or hays
sanctioned Its being pained into a law.
After a joke front Mr. F. O'Costaoa, about the &habil"-
Station of the law in Ireland,
Sir W. BARRON said ha °Deceived that what he bad
stated with reference to Mr. Berwick most have been mis-
understood by the right hoe. baronet (Sir G. Grey). He had
stated distinctly that the provision of the bill were not only
suggested, bat that it bad been actually drawn up by Mr.
Berwick. He, therefore, thought it right to ask the right
hon. baronet whether he meant to impute that the statement
be (Sir W. Banco) had made was contrary to the fact ?
Sir O. OREY.—Most certainl not. What I said wee,
that I did not understand the bill to have been actually
drawn up, and every clams of It revised, by Mr. Berwick,
aid by him Owed ia its present lona fa the boa. baronet's
heads. But if the boo. buena states that seek Is the fact,
I am of course very far from disputing it.
Mr. NAPIER mid he felt bound to mention that a more
respectable and competent preslltioner of the law than Mr.
Berwick did not exist. (Hear, hear.)
Sir W. BARRON added that he was a Queea's counsel
of may years' standing in Ireland.
The bill was then withdrawn.

VICE GUARDIANS OF UNIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
Oaths motion for the consideration of the report on this
Col. DUNNE moved the substitution of " 29th Septem-
ber, 1819," ter " 25th Much, 1850," as the at which
the eat Waylaid come into operation, as ed the &icon-
.

seance ofesid gnartani.
Si, D. N RitEYB defended the proposition as it stood.

After s few words from M. Mossuz, Mr. P. ECROPI,
and Mr. Surrosa,

Sir G. GREY said the only
.object of the government was
to ascertain the most convolutes time for tbe transfer of
powers which this bill contemplated. If it were thought
that March was too remote a period, he would consent to the
insertioe of the let November.

Col. DII,INE expressed his readiness to withdraw the
amendment, in favour of this 'Question.
Mr. H. HERBERT oomplained that the hon. numbs, foe
Stroud (Mr. Serogellkittithrown out unfounded accontices
against the Irish
Sir W. SOBLERVILLE thought the house had exercised
a very wise discretion is not entering into the conduct of the
Mr~
surr.erinaCaevitlera3rllu "Pe
arfprethtl:etteeePtced guardians
removed.

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The amendment was then withdrawn, and the Ist of No-
vember was inserted is the bai.
The bill !ram then reported.
OUT-DOOR.P4syIPERS.B4.L.

On the motion that this bill be committed,
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said he wished to know from the
hon. Regime& opposite (Mr. Basso), whether the provi-
sions of this bill were adequate to west such cases as that
which bad recently taken place in the neighbourhood of this
metropolis under thesartanom so afftictic g —he alluded to
the ems of the asylum kept by Mr. Drouet, when about
200 children were swept away. It seemed to him that there
was ao adequate mufti= in the bill to prevent the occur-
rence of such a celamity in future. In the first
place, be taw no reams why the poor should be farmed out
at all. He doubted the policy nadir any eiratatstanoss of
handing over the peer, whaling of ate or osier age, to be
made a some et pads by may ern lie might be told that
theme establishments might be pared under eagle masa and
mgdatises, bus empseisthe Ida them that it is not the existence
of rule that is weeted, bat Be of of inspection to en-
gem thee *me ids end would be enforced.
He therm*** the pest was defective, in not pro.
yid's( some ant mama is order that the attention of the
pear law omen might be at once directed to any
abate OM might arise. It was hapoeible for say board,
Itawswis medal, to take immediate cognisant* of
ensk alum se might suddenly arise fn soy put dike king-
dom. The sue of Andover was a notorious Insane. There
was no end et roles and regulations there, and yet scenes
seeneeed which it would be too digutiag to repeat He
=tthinfore. that a power d inspection should hal
in am local body—probably the migistrag et the
He °Doddered this as the only means of Albs
letilgmyethenting the recurrence of such sir edfal arms se
had recently maned.
Mr. DAMES said he was glad the hoe patient* had
given him en opportunity of raddeg a short mime* to the
house in referents to a stablest midi a need dent bed in-
vested with suck a palatal asameter. It was a mis-
take to suppose that the age* of coetrastimg for
the maiateneaes etie is hems not workhouses bad
ooriginatedmime asp or the poseslaw amendment mt.
That system talented yam ego, in an act peal in
1722—the 9 Om. I.—by width it was mac lawful to
contrast far the maintenance of paupers in homes ether than
workbenem. From 1723 is the prime time the legality of
that peados bad bee reseeded by skids die. althate, so
that the was no death whatever of fa aging. With re-
gard to the partionlar ease of pauper &lichee, the legislation
which had hitherto taken pees was rather re-
medial& In the act known es Gilbert's Act,
and sellkh pm* is 1708 there were provisions
emit wady to most the aloe et pamper children,
ma it we Abel* that within the dielebb to which that
simeg=el the.. should *power to mod eat children, to
be maw the tare of those whit assented for their
That eras dims* by the leghlatan to be a
wtadibaMe reviles. as role
the es *Ube* whiskßutthere deogwasiedi peeesetlbr=
It wee the set solid N.l~e Ast, se sailed ober Jam
Heoway, We benevelest . ftal who eau* it to be pomod
ha 1767. That act absolutely made it impentive es the
eveseeers of the sestrepditen polishes to and Sad Widow
from this polishes We hews of this kind in the eseatry
It the *rpm of Whig melsbised there. That eel was
Is line till 1844, whoa it was so far repeated that It was se
imperative * the whits to mod est the Mess ;
berths Waft el their bang so sesseisol impeeliesebie.
He bed le drat thet ;zsembeis est hems bed
heed of sod scene bad eideod, the establiamot
of Mr. eilhAdamet Norwood. Owe goad be so pestles
that the wen pissed there bpliy. He WI se
doubt that when Heaware Act woe Impeded, it was sap-
posed that attain provisions which wen iatroduosd in the
act pm* at that time, sung, the 7 & 8 Vic.,
e. 101, and intedneed by the rig* les. gentlemen the
asembor for
roper Ripas(dir J.GrahassA*ppmti*asimepaperthaisat security
ice the p mistime*. amll et
fa fats*.. He wadi egg whole the set idled is furnishing
provhita for that pose. and the mesas it was no:rai=
pool le adopt. The hes* he wee sure, would be
to knew le what extestleaset alibis hied ezbted at patent
The oddest was one Opal
i impolesee ad he takes
wine psis at be esemelly Wins* es t. From all thesis--lse Manias Minima they anywhere t
Is
the Mateepoillas Midge h any existence a: all.
And it ems eimmicabis, eesideehig that the practise was
zrdem die time el Clamp 1., sad that hems
be sod NI substitutes for, or as mil=
to wodthemme, that so fro =Wed. In the
of the genatry he did set lei onleting. Clartsigied
the nieleepolitas beide* he baud that there were ens
institutions of this Mod is Middlesex, Hest, and Storey.
There were two atemposy, and Peckham, where the paw
pen of the City of LiadmaUnion were kept under stoetrost,
but the ueematy It these two would be dew away with
before the sad of the present year, as se
workhouse would be built by that time withineiedZlS
and in that ease these two houses would die •
death. There was • third Inditution—that of Mr.
Albin, at Norwood—in which somewhat leas than 1,200
childria were kept. It was an institution which was
thought well of by than who bad visited it.
No 111 had der been made respecting it : the thus-
den wee healthy, and be had a* death that in an instigate
of that Idol the Were& of the children were MAN NIS-
• emd bettor end It goo thaw would be in es wed
crowded workhouse, or If allowed Si run about the glee*
(Hear, hear.) These were the entire at the istslilliments
of this Wed editing in the amiglthemehold et Loathe. nen
were two at Maw* ems meepieles 131, sad the Wm
134, poles., these being mei sp of adults and MAIM
Than *se atablidimentehr the AM* of dilleestweelte
Wm* whose health replied Woo Se he seer the em, sod
so lode they wan Me m* valuable isolinelimmareshi jar.
With rep* to the* the.. wag tergesso
whatever. There on meeker at Welling is Heat, when 44
dolt pagers wen reselesel hem the union In London. The
only remaining Meantime et the kind was that at Brixton,
when these were 196 duke, in respect to which them
was preedeally no of Int. He had now stated
what was the idea of this !dad sow exist-
ing, sad with aped M wlii* he *ballad that it liras
names, there dead be memo farther lighlatiese. RI&
peeling what had taken Mate at Tads& es Me facts were
abed to be isvestigated beam a mishit' court of
ludo% the hones wend me the propriety of ab-
Magog boa any Amiss to them. (Heat) Whether the
pleat vie modusted that establishment was individually
she lame or not, what had taken place there, at ell events,
thraithed • thong proof that further powers should be
glees by the legislature with regard to such institutions, be-
Ogee if wee manifest they wore open to abate. Jie hosted