The Express.
London, England, 1847-11-24 00:00:00

Ise had mentioned. The lhon. member read at greet ed,
returns made from three united parishes in Sligo by the Rey
E. Feenv, from a district in Roscommon by the RAS.
Michael Brennan, and from other Roman catholic clergymes
in different parts of Ireland, all concurring is the statement
that hundreds were dying of starvation and disease ; that
famine had done and was doing its work ; that the resureas,
cattle, pigs, and poultry, which heretofore enabled the
cottier to pay his rent, had all been absorbed, and that the
prospects of the coming winter were more alarming than the
season which had passed. These were the state.
Punta which ought to make a deep imprenion
upon the house and the government. (Hear.) At
sent he did not gather from the speech of Sir George
that they were to hare anything beyond legislation on the
question of the rights of landlord and tenant. Neeessaty
such a menses was, it was insufficient to meet the meant
condition of the country. It waa a mere stop-gap, bet let
the government deliberately consider the state of Irelandond
enact measures to raise that starving nation and to re-
store her to permanent prosperity. (Hear, hear.) The
, Times would not dare to writ* as it did against the
' people of Ireland, if it wu not backed by a large party in
England, who gave to that infamous, calumnious, and Mak
raper the largest share of their support, and thereby ideati.
gad themselves with its outrageous attacks on the people
and the priests of Ireland. Nothing could more directly tend
to a separation between the two countries thin the infamoes
attacks which perpetually appeared in that journal. Without
an effort on the part of the legislature, the poor had beta left
to perish from the cupidity of the landlords; and, while fat
from seeking to excuse the crimes of the tenantry, he was
anxious that the house should denounce the crimes of the
landlords. Whatever effect such denunciation might lulu
on the minds of the tenantry is !reload, it must
be made ; it could not longer be delayed with
safety. The Irish members were bound to resit
the concession of extraordinary powers to ministers;
for they had no pledge whatever in the past conduct of
ministers against their reposing on a forced peace, obtained
by these extraordinary powers. His (Mr. O'Connell's) sym.
Whits had long been with the party of the present ramie.
ten ; he had thought them in many respect,. In advance di
the English public ; bat he could not conceive how the noble
lord at the head of the government could propose a
coercion bill, after his past declarations, without first at.
tempting to relieve the miseries of Ireland, and to carry eat
his own promise of putting the axe to the root of the evil
Deeply did he deplore the change that had corn, over the
noble lord. Surely there must be something in the natal
of office which wondrously altered men's sentiments. (Hear)
When the right hon. baronet (the member for Tamworth)
had proposed his coercion bill in the session of 1816, the
noble lord had mid :

Here Lo an answer to the right hon. gentleman'a whole ease. Ate
we well supplied with a military force, that we would not at onto
accede to a proposition similar to that which I made in ISM to is
' house, to grant an Imam et military forte to the four
counties t is it sot boor be lam an Maser of military howl
it not better to mate theelstkaoset erd er
the constabulary force, the to shut ugsteMdZio=bmill
in those counties? Have you not yourselves awns drat wit=
to the e runty of Leitrim, tinordhlosT Poweinsof Hollawaini
' and do you ask me to grant extraordinary sons win werseans
' is, that you have yourselves exerted the ponies of the etakmey him
' and in your hand, they have been found maggot! I any ihis. 4
with regard to the ordinary law. let there be an waft efaumetio•
If nenwiary, let those counties which ngelre Ii 1111 NW
Orly patrolled. If the constabulary me net selleise• bees
mounted patron, as you hod formerly in the nalgaitughosit of Lae
don, and take care that during the night the hems sr the ammeley
are not attacked, or entered, without the means of pursuing Oa
offenders. Take every means of that kind. Employ the great and
effective polite force which you have in Ireland. Let no part of hle
ineffective. Send more stipendiary magistrates there, it it be MOW
may. imitate your own example in England, and when you ban
found it with regard to one county in Ireland sufficiont, do wit at
for extraordinary powers. I say, if by any exertion of the
law you can refrain from using such an immense power so atijia
the duty of parliament lo refine its cement to this bill.
He (Mr. O'Connell) now said the same to the noble lord.
Let him Diereses the police and the military, and even, if
necessary, send down special commissions, ti try the offend-
ers, and punish them severely ; but let him not infribge upon
the constitution. Let the house, especially the new members,
refer to " Han lard," and see the strong declarations the present
ministers had made, only 18 months ago, against coercing Ire-
land ; and let the new members beware of giving their sup-
port to ouch a proposal . He must express his conviction
that the people of Ireland and their sentiments had no
weight here; there was no knowledge of or sympathy with,
their distresses. On the question of coercion, he should think
he was acting with the grossest inconsistency, if, after
opposing the measure brought forward by Sir R. Peel, he
nhould now support a similar proposition because made by
the present ministers.
Sir B. HALL had hoped, that after the speech of the
right hon. baronet the Secretary for the Home Department,
the amendment of the hon. and learned member for Heath
would have been withdrawn. He believed that it would
have been withdrawn but for the speech of the bon. and
learned member who had just sat down. He (Sir B. Rail)
would ask that hon. and learned member what he hail done
for the people of Ireland. (Hear, hear.) The English
people had sent over eight or ten millions sterling to recover
their distress, and that immense sum had been promptly and
cheerfully granted. The hon. and learned member for ElI.
kenny held a distinguished position among his countrymen,
and,instead of doing anything practical to relieve their distress,
he had sanctioned the use of language towards them of the
most inflammatory nature. (Hear, hear.) Language inciting
to murder and assassination had been used in his presence,
and that, too, by high dignitaries in his own church, and he
had not, by word or gesture, reproved that language.
(Hear, hear.) The hon. and learned member had said that
before coercion bills should pass, he would fall a victim on
the floor of the House of Commons. No wonder, then, if
the lion. and learned member should oppose such measures,
if it were only to retard his own immolation. (Laughter.)
Let the house only see into what state Ireland had been
brought by the agitation going on in that country. One
repeal association was bad enough, but now there
were no less than four. He had no hesitation in saying that
the scheme of repeal carried on by some of them from year
ho year, without ever coming to anything, was one of the
mates; political humbugs that had ever been perpetrated.
I (Hear' hear.) He remembered to have heard a man—one
of the greatest men of his day—(hear, hear)—he meant
the late hon. and learned member for Cork—state that he
would lay his head upon the block if repeal were not carried
within six months from the date of his observation. Still
the same LlSOltinel were made, still the same humbug car-
ried on in the face of the people of Ireland. (Hear, hear.)
The hon. baronet proceeded to enumerate the four political
associations now existing in Ireland. and to quote speeches of
the hon. and learned member for Kilkenny, made in each.
I. two or three of those speeches the hon and learnedmem-
ber had vowed to die on the floor of the House of Commons
before he permitted a coercion bill to pass fir Ireland. All
he (Sir B. Hall) could say was, that if such a catastrophe
should happen his hon. friend the member for Finsbury
would be in readiness to held the necessary inquiry. (Hear,
and laughter.) Al to coercive measures, although be had
voted egoist* tiers in 1832, be should now, looking at the
oradate ennisni fa Ireland every. day, be prepared to
stroglises the bawls of government in every possible way.
( Hear bear.) Rs believed that there was a class of men in
Irdead—he gran the bairn catholic priests—who might
do • pet deal te Foment violence if they were so inclined.
He dad in awn to imamate anything against the priest-
hood see body, bream be knew that mom them were •
great may Melt platy am, bat he eawaamleaatruthetween
die esalust Si the riots of 1847 and that width bed ben
panne by be pion of 1702 In that yew a sewn test
astri was adored = the swoon el kb Majesty's vets, mad cis
priers ea abiress ethrren the pseght, ia the ass
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to they ,held beer et nook ealscotaticas arr. (Hew,
bear.) They bad bard lately Giese of a very diameter-
maw, sad ente too, from a high Elopaitery is the lies
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