The Express.
London, England, 1849-04-02 00:00:00

Witner—No one had spoken to we on the subject, except
Savory the boy.
Prisoner—Wu asythine said b Limto you, or by the
pedlar, that you would be kept in chime till you kai given
evidence?

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Witores—No ; nothing of the kind.
Private—Was 6 tvory with you in the gig when you went
over to the itsil with Witheford ?
Witness—Yes ; he rods behind.
Praoner—Was anything said to you when you were going
to the hall ?

Witness—Nothing further than some general ohmirgtlons.
Frivoller—Did you see Ilabberaty, the polleaofilear, there ?
Witness—Yee. Prisoner—Were the undies lit at the time t
Witnes+—Yes. Prisoner—Was there any communion about
what had passed the night before ? Witaem--Not the
least. Prisoner—l think yon mid you did not get back to
Potash till 12 o'clock the night altar the murder? Wit-
ntse—Yes.

The priwner—Did yon see Mr. Cann at all that night ?
Witness —I do not rstollsct.

The misonar—Did you am any one else ? Witaess—l saw
a pslioemao.
The prisentr—What was his name ? Witness—l don't

know.

Prisoner—Was the door of my bedroom open u you
passed? Witness—l did not observe.
Prienner—On the nest morning, at Potash, how many
policemen do you think you saw while you were at break-
fast ? Witnem—l can't say exactly how 161117.
Prisoner—Were there three or four ?
Witness—Yes ; I dare say there were.
Prisoner—Did you see Hubbenty that morning ? Wit-
nets—No.
Prisoner—Had you any tea when you got back to Potash,
after going to Bridewell on Thursday ? Witness—Yee.
Prisoner—Was any one in the room then ? Wu Oakly
here ?
Witness—l am sure that I can't recollect anything.
Prisoner—What took place ?
Wieners—l don't recollect anything that took place. I
don't know anythine more about it than you do.
Prisoner—When I cross-examined you at the Bridewelle
did not the magistrates refuse to allow me to go eau, but de-
termined en putting the (teatime themselves
Witness—You put the questions, and the magistrates re-
peated them.
Prisoner—When I did put any questions I put them
through the magistrates ?
Wiener —The first time you did not put any qusstioas.
Prisoner—Did I not complain of it Witness—l believe
you did.
Prisoner—Did I not put the questions over and over
again to the magistrates before I allowed you to 'answer
them, owing to the manner in which they put them to you ?
Witness—l was tol ito answer the magistrates. itst you.
Prisoner.—Do you recollect w.at Mr. John Qum said to
you ?
Witness.—He did not speak to me.
Prisoner—D s you not recollees, whine I asked Mr. John
Cann whether he toe k down your examination on oath, on
Dec. let, as he was then doing, he turned round and spoke
to you ?
Witness—Mr. John Cann never dii turn round and speak
to me.
Pris-ner—Do you recollect me calling out quite loud to
Mr. John Cann at that time ?
Wits:ins—Yes, I think you did call out.
Prisoner—Did not Mrs. Bryant begin to talk to you, and
did I not call out to her ?
Witness—l don't recollect.
Prisoner—Did she nn speak to you ? Witness—No.
Prisoner—Did I not thump upon the table, and tell MIL
Bryant if she had anything to say that she must speak out.
Witness—Mrs. Bryant was about to lay scuethiee, but she
was stopped by Sir John Boileau, who said, " you are under
• mistake ; Mrs. Bryant is doing nothing but handing her
some water."
Prisoner—Do you not recollect that Mr. Thomas Jermy
refused to sign the agreement which was drawn up for him
and La-ner m Mylnu street, London ?
Witness—He expressed great reluctance to signinr.
Prisoner—And would not do so until I had talked to him
for a long time ?
Witness—You tried to persuade him, and, I believe, suc-
ceeded.
Prisoner—Did not you and I have some canversesCon about
the matter afterwards ?
Witness—You told me to make another copy.
Prisoner—Did anything else transpire ?
Witness—l recollect asking you if Mr. Lerner and Mr.
Thomas Jermy were going to occupy your mother's farm, or
that rut hao. occupied, and you said the letter.
Prisoner—How long do you think I was at breakfast the
morning after the murder?
Witness—About a quarter of an hour.
Ptisoner—Do you recollect me asking you if any ono had
inquired of yon about my being out on the night before ?
Witness—Yes, you did. You put a good many questions.
I said, "Yes, they have made those inquiries," and you said
they had no right to do to.
Prisoner—Do you recollect me asking what you heel told
them ?
Witness—Yes, T do remember; and I told you.
Prisoner—Did I not say, Ido not wonder they suspect
me, from the manner in which we (meaning the deceased
and prig-ner) have been living for the lest eighteen months?"
Wetness—Yes, and I said you would be suspected.
Prisoner—Do you recollect me raying that 'No one the
appeared to be suspected but me," and wondering what was
the reason of it ?
Witness—No, I do not recollect that.
Prisoner—Do you recollect my mentioning ldr. Cann's
'c?

there ?

Witness—No, you did not mention it to me.
Prisoner—Did I not ask for my cloak, and give you some
reason for wishing for it ?
Witness—Yu, and I told you the police had it.
Prisoner—Did I not sly at breakfast-time, You know I
had my slippers on last night ?"
Witness—Yea; I said, " I do not know."
Prisoner—Do you recollect me sayinx to the policeman
that Mr. Cann was my enemy ?
Witness—l do not remember it.
Prisoner—Do you recollect Mr. Salter coming to Potash
on the lot of December, 1847, when my poor mother wu
there? Witness—Yes.
Prisoner—Were you there when he passed through the
room whore my mother was ? Witnere—Yes.
Prisoner—Do you not recollect taking ninety-nice sove-
reigns and aim ence off tLe table? Witness—Yo ; 1 believe
I did.
The Judge—What passed ?
Witness—fhe prisoner said, " I hate tendered these sove-
reigns to Mr. Salter."
Prhoner—Did I not tell you to keep that money, as I
wanted to price that I had tendered it to Mr. Salter ?
Witness—Yee, you did ; and I took it and made a little
memorandum of it.
Prisoner—Have you since your examination, had any
conversation with Mr. 'Wilson as to what was to become of
you after this trial? Witness—Yee, I have.
Prisoner—Have you applied to Mr. Cann? Witness—
Yr s, I have.
Prisoner—To any other solicitor? Witness—No.
Priviner—Have you received any money sines I left you?
Witness—No.
Prisoner—Have you been promised any ? Witness—No,
I have not.
Priamer —Did either of the Mr. Coons ever to!' you that
I had any objection to your having your clothes 0 Witness
—Yee.

Prisoner—Which Mr. Cann was that? Witness—Mr.
John Cann.
Prisoner—At what time did you go to the Bridewell on
the "May ? Witness—About tea-time.
Prisoner —What was the time at which you went into the
room to be csonined ?
Witness—l do nee remember.
Prisoner—Did you give Mr. Cann a writt-n statement,
or did you answer any questions ? Had he given you a
written statement at that time I Witness—No.
Prisoner—Did Mr. Cann put down what you aid ?
Witness—Yes; I think he did. I saw a paper in his
hand.
Prisoner—Did you see Mr. Hubbenty that night after you
got hack ?
Witness—Yes. I think I did, but I am not certain.
Prisoner—Do you know who was in the roam when I
was examined at ?
Witness—No; I do not recollect all of them.
Prisoner—What did the Coroner ask you when he ex-
' amined you—when he examined you did he lock to any
papers for his Tuitions ?
Witness—l saw no paper.
Prisoner—Were both the Mr. Canna there ? Witness—Yes.
The Judge (to the prisoner)—lt is very difficult for me to
do justice to what you draw from the witness, for you go
backwards and forwards to such an extent that I can hardly
follow. It is almost Impossible to do justice to your case, for
not one-third of what you have asked has enything to do
with it; and but for the peculiar position in which you are
placed. I should not have allowed you to go on in such a
manner.
Prisoner—On the night of the sth of October, when I
went from Potash, did I not tell you that I was go'ng to see
Mr. Jermy, and what it was for ? Witness— No ; you did
not.
Prisoner—What were we talking about on that occasion ?
Wine-s—l do not recollect.
Prisoner—Did we not eons to an understanding that all
letters between as were to be burnt ?
Witness—Yon used to say that if I would burn your let-
ters you would burn mine. When you wrote to me ia Lon-
don yen always Insisted on having your letters burnt.
Judge ('o prisoner)—lf you press thug thing*, which are
instanter:A, I must confine you to the strict line of exami-
nation.
Witness—You insisted upon the letters being destroyed.
g you. at
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thinegmtlr. letters to pre-
vent
Pritshlenes
and some nuts.
Prisoner—Did I not bring a pint of port wine and some
Moe.
WP t nBle Stacey's, when
isolundl ywo recollect
uenwtot °awl the
ebt bring Whiteil'
md Heonabraticlasslotime wino
nuts ?
Wftness —No ; you brought brandy:
Prisoner—Did I never bring port wine ?
Witness—You did one Sunday.
Prisoner—Did I come to Mrs. Stacey's more than one
Sunday ? Witness—Yea.
Prisoner—Did I ever sit down with you and drink any-
thisst but p rt wine after dinner?
Witness—Generally you did ; but on that day you brought
brawl.
Pr soner—Did you hear anything about my being mar-
ried ?
Witnear—Mrs. Stacey told me that yen told her you were
going to he worried to a rich widow is Norwich.
Pris, nor DII you say anything to me about that ?
Willi, as ( -kb emphasis and great emotion)—l totr;
when y.O brake your promise that you would repent before