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jet* for inquiry, though he tbooght the inquiry ought
more to have been directed to the caulk s w loch
I led to the presentation, rather than to those which
led to the withdrawal of the petition. (Hear, hear.) But
he thought the proper moment had not been chosen for the
proposition, considering, in the first place, the long delay
I In making the motion alter the presentation of the petition,
tad its subsequent withdrawal ; and considering also that
the motion was made so immediately before the sitting of
an election committee to inquire iuto circumstances inti-
mately connected with the subject which the house had
now been discussing. (Hear, hear.) Apart from all this,
, however, he founded his objection to • decision, at the
preseat moment, on the fact that au hon. gentleman had
that evening given notice of • motion, fired for the 31st
of May, fur • general inquiry into all cases of this kind ;
: atid, under these cit cumstances, he would move that this
debate be adjourned to that day, and the inquiry in this
instance then, of course, to merge into the general inquiry.
The house divided—
For adjournment
Against it
The debate was accordingly adjourned.
ELECTION PETITIONS.
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homes explanatory el the eireamelomile wean shish his to my that the sesether for Rut Surrey owght to
late father had paid its of impudent to New-ball Con- have brought forward bb motion for • eommittee of inquiry
vent. The hon. baronet was big to describe • on an earlier day. It was clear teem what had occurred
Roman catholic book, which, as ten;:liged, contained must toolight that there would be no opposition to such is coin-
disgusting details, but was interrupted by the universal mittee ef inquiry, and he would suaseat to the hon. num-
cell for a division. bee fur East Sure, y to move at once ter the committee, so
The house divided. that they might inquire without delay into the withi'.rawal
For the motion
Against it
The announcement of the numbers was received with to withdraw his motion, on the understanding that the
loud cheers. whole matter should be inquired into.
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS. Mr. L. KING said that the reason ho had not brought
Mr. J. BALL, with the permission of the house, with- forward his motion was that he was told that there were so
drew his motion on this subject. many committees sitting, that it would be impossible to do
TRANSFER OF LAND (IRELAND). so with effect, and that it would be opposed; but if the
Mr. V. SCULLY obtained leave to bring iu • bill to face house was prepared to agree to it, he would move it now if
Mate the transfer of land in Ireland. he could do so.
THE BALLOT. The SPEAKER said that as notice of the motion was
Mr. 11. BERKELEY postponed his motion on the ballot.
Risen for a particular day, it could not be made before that
METROPOLITAN BRIDGES. day.
Mr. OLIVEIRA postponed his motion upon Metropo-
Sir J. TROLLOPS said that the appointment of the
whole of the election committees would ho finished by the
itan Bridges until Tuesday, the 24th instant. lest day of this month, for, unless any other petitions were
CUSTOMS SEIZURES. Mr. GREOSON moved for • return, up to the present vid preed fsentedor. ,at this moment there were only eight to be pro-
time, of the number of seizures or prosecutions made or
Sir J. SHELLEY said, having been so pointedly alluded
enettihooneoisef dteba,g trbeebeCeeeom,mperpiopenre,nenodl Eeezffeeeise: fdoirettitegeadieubliteeg- to by the hem. member fo. Walli I rel ho wished
few- words. It was amost unwarrantable attack mejadeeeyone
the seizures or prosecutions for adueteratem of coffee under 1 ' by the hon. • - • •
1101 gentleman when he was month by listening
the Treasury Order of the 3rd day of August, 1852 ; and to what was said by gentlemen op • dit • d posite,an require great
any seizures or prosecutions under the Treasury Order of attention on his
gentlemen
on
the 25th day of February, 18.33, for sales of mixtures of site were sincere in their desire for • ' Y purity of election. It
chicory and coffee without the required labels (ia continua- seemed to him that a miserable attack had been made on
tion of Parliamentary Paper, No. 647, Ft of -madam 1851). Messrs. Brown and Coppock, after their having refused to
The hee• member, who spoke in • low tone of voice, was prosecute a member of that house also was proved'
understood to complain of the prevalence of adulteration in have been 'of •to guilty bribery. It was high time
the articles mentioned in his motion, and of the inefficiency that some other tribunal should be fiend to try election
of the recent Treasury order in preventing them. The petitions, and he was sure the Idthat • country world see it was
hos. menthe r also stated that the consumption of coffee had • •
high time to adopt some other mode of voting at elections.
iiiseesmied in consequence of the facilities for adulteration. (Hear, hear.) The attacks should not be confined to
Mr. HUME did not mean to oppose the motion, but re- Messrs. Brown and Coppock, but extended to every agent'
=that the hon. member should make any attempt to in every town in the country. Ile would say that out of
the perfect freedom of commerce. He considered the
house it was not believed that the house was anxious fur
the laws ai ag nst fraud to be quite sufficient protection punt) of election, when on an occasion that a member was
against the adulterations aimed at by the hon. member's rowel to have beenguilty of bribery, only 77members of
motion, that house supported a motion to prosecute him. If he was
Mr. WILSON did not oppose the motion, but defended to propose to prosecute Mr. Bremridge, who had been
the bona fides of the government in carrying out the laws proved to have been guilty of personal bribery, would gee,
against adulteration. During the last two months there had tlemen opposite support him? (Hear, hear.) Ile would
been 1,564 inspections, 94 convictions aad penalties, 135 test their sincerity by putting a notice en the paper of a
punishments of • minor description, and, at the court held motion to prosecute bk. Bremridge. (Hear, hear.)
yesterday, there were 33 convictions. With respect to the Mr. PIGOTT, as the seated member for Bridgnorth,
consumption I f coffee, instead of decreasing, it had in- wished to
state what took place at the end of the trial of
creased from three to six millions. the election petition. At the end of a nine days' inquiry
After a few words from Mr. GazosoN, he asked the agent for the petition what case he had against
The motion was agreed to. him, aad he replied, " None whatever, but unless both
BARNSTAPLE ELECTION. members had been petitioned against a commission would
Mr. 0. STANLEY moved—Address to her Majesty, not have been granted." (Hear, hear.) lle therefore stood
praying that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to issue there se the butt of Mr. Coppock. 1
• commission to inquire into corrupt practices which took Mr. W. 0. STANLEY doubted whether the house was
place at the late election for the borough of Barnstaple. in earnest in their proceedings against corruption. There
Commissioners' names, Michael Prendergast, Esq., Q.C., was a sessional order on the books which stated that "if
Sir John Eardley Eardley Wilmot, Bart., and Leotric Tem- any one was elected or returned to that house by means of
ple, Esq. The hon. member stated that bribery had existed bribery and corrupt practices, the house would proceed
at previous elections for Barnstaple, and that the attention with severity against the persons concerned." Ile Lad al-
of the house had been called to the case of this borough on ready given notice of his intention to call attention to
previous occasions. It was proved before the committee circumstance which tended to criminate a late member of
that • general system of treating and corruption prevailed that house. Three cases of bribery by members had been
at the last election. reported to the house this session, and one was reported to-
Mr. L. KING seconded the motion, which was agreed to. night stronger than an of them. Would the house notice
DURHAM ELECTION. such • flagrant cue ? (Hear, hear.) During the di.cussions
Mr. BENTINCK moved for a select committee to inquire in this session on the subject of corruption, attempts had
into the circumstances under which the petitions against been made to palliate it, saying that both sides were equally
the return of William Atherton, Esq., and Thomas Colpitta bad. He did not believe they were equally bad on both
Grainger, Esq., for the city of Durham, have been with- side*. (" Hear, hear," and "Oh.") Constituencies were
drawn, and that the petition of certain electors of the city of not corrupt in themselves, but it gentlemen drew large
Durham, presented to this house on the 20th day of April, sums from their bankers, and gave them to their agents, and
be referred to the said committee. At the general election then sat down in the house congratulating them-
in July, Mr. Grainger and Mr. Atherton were returned for selves that they were not guilty of bribery,
Durham—Lord Vane being the defeated candidate. In what could be expected ? The country would
August Mr. Grainger died. On 23rd November +petition not believe that the house was sincere in its professions until
was presented against the return of Mr. Atherton, and on they acted up to the sessional center. If the reports pre-
the 25th—the last day for presenting petitions—another rented to the house were to be only waste paper, it would
petition we. presented from two electors, who had sup- be better to put an end to election committees. and proclaim
ported Grainger and Atherton, complaining that the return that they meant to be corrupt and maintain corruption;
against Mr. Grainger was void, and claiming but he hoped to see the house determined to take such
the seat for Lord A. Vane. The agent of measures as that no parliament should ever again be
this petition was Mr. Coppock, and there was but returned by means of such corruption as the last was.
one surety ; and after the presenting of this petition the Mr. EGERTON said that after the speech of the hon.
other was withdrawn. He contended that the 'object of gentleman the sooner the house got rid of the discussion of
present;ng this second petition was to obtain the withdrawal these matters the better, for when an hon. gentleman, is
of the petition 'Against Mr. Atherton, and to stay the issuing the position of a judge—(" hear, hear," and great cheer-
of the writ. At the subsequent election Lord A. Vane was ing) told them that corruption on one side
returned, and he ban been petitioned against by the same of the house was greater than on the other
electors and through the same agency of Mr. Coppock. He —(" hear, hear," and loud cheers)—he said, for
thought he had stated sufficient to show that a gross vie- the dignity of the house and the good consideration
latiou of the right of petitioning had been committed. and in which it should be held in the country, the
that the house ought to institute inquiry. sooner they had judges who laid aside violent language like
Mr. M. CHAMBERS opposed the motion. The hon. that—(" hear, hear," and great cheering)—the better for
member bad omitted to state that the other petition was all Parties. He was not there to justify any corruption ;
witdrawn by Mr. Brown, the conservative agent. It was be only wished that all eases should be considered fairly aad
not till after the general committee of selection had ap- impartially, and be thought the subject brought forward by
pointed the day for naming the select committee on the the hon. member for Norfolk ought to be considered, for
petition against the recent return of Lord A. Vane that the proceedings of the last six months had tended to lower
any impropriety in the proceeding had been discovered. If committees of the house in the eyes of the country. He
the committee were granted the inquiry would be useless, only rose to say that if judges were to sit on those matters
as it could not affect the election of July last. (Hear.):. their language should be of &different kind. (Load cheers.) I
Mr. MILES condemned the conduct of the agents on Mr. W. 0. STANLEY said that he never stated that one
both aides who had brought .orward petitions without the side of the house was more corrupt than the other.
slightest aide,
'Handl. He thought, however, there was Mr. S. HERBERT deprecated the fixing any charge of
an allegation in this case, into which the house ought to this kind, on one side of the house or the other. Since this
inquire. Here was a case in which a petition was presented question had been brought forward, members of all politi-
against Mr. Grainger, who had died and claiming the seat cal feelings- had spoken, and all had concurred in the IN the reign of CHARLES IL, one of the most
for Lord Adolphus Vane, who had not been consulted• opinion that the question brought forward by the member despotic and profligate Kings that ever sat upon the
This was playing with the House of Commons, and when for Norfolk was worthy of consideration ; but he thought throne of England, an Act was passed which is fre-
they heard that Mr. Coppock went about with 20 or 30 elec- that the suggestion that the motion should be referred to
quently spoken of as another Magna Charts. It is
tion petitions in his pocket, it was clear the whole system the committee which was to inquire into the whole question
was rotten and required revision. Instead of casting impu- entitledthe Habeas
of the withdrawal of petitions was • proper one ; and the
Corpus Act. 'the purport of this
unions against members of parliament they ought to look feet of an election committee being about to try a petition law is to declare that in cases of alleged illegal con-
to the agenty. against the return of the member for Durham, was another finement a writ may be obtained, directed to the
Sir J. TROLLOPE, as chairman ef the general nom- reason for postponement, and he hoped the house would person
who illegally detains another, commanding
mittee of selection, stated that his experience there had adopt the 'ne gation.
shown that that committee bad been made thestalking horse Mr. T. BUNCOMBE did not think there was anything such person to produce the body of his prisoner, to
for abusing the privileges of the house, tampering with the worthy of consideration in the motion of the member for state tho day and the cause of his caption and deten-
right of petitition, making compromise, and in short, of Norfolk. It amounted to this, that, on 25th December, tion, and to do. submit to, and receive whatsoever
serving the purpose of the agents, instead of prosecuting a petition was presented against the return of • dead the Judge or Court that awards the writ shall direct.
bona tads inquiries. As there was an opportunity now member, and that was complained of ; then it was That such a law as this—which is, after all, only
offered to the house of showing its displeasure of such withdrawn, and that was complained of. It was not alleged
et. a re-affirmation of a great principle enshrined
practices, he trusted the matter would not be passed over. that it was withdrawn without the consent of the peel- g _
Mr. HEADLAM considered if they appointed& coin- tioners, as in the case of Norwich, and that made all the in Magna Charts,—should have passed in the reign
mines in this cue, they must do so in every ease when an difference. He would ask, had there beea no petition now of a man who cared for no mortal's liberty but his
election petition was withdrawn. against the sitting member for Durham, would this motion own, shows pretty clearly how deeply rooted was
Mr. MALINS admitted that the parliamentary agents have ever been heard of ? If everything that was alleged
k the idea of personal freedom in the English mind.
were a useful body of men, but urged that they must be was proved, what would be dons to Mr. Brown and r. This law
protects sane persons. The humanity of
taught to trust the House :of Commons, and not to avail Coppock, who had only acted within the letter of the law '
modern times further : it introduces regulations
en the inquiry went; further, and it was asked who in- goes
themselves of the right of petitioning against election re- When
turns to serve their own purposes. He supported the motion. strutted the agents, it would be found that it was a little for the protection of thoinsane. The Commissioners
The bon. member then went on to express his surprise that coterie at the Carlton Club, presided over by the hon. and of Lunacy are bound to inspect every house used as
the hon. member for Westminster was not present. (Dears gallant colonel opposite, who regulated the proceedings and a receptacle for lunatic patients at least four times
hear.) [Sir John Shelley here intimated that he was in his directed the agents whether they weremto githdrabw the
in the year. Their visits may bo made at any hour
place.] He wondered, then, that the hon. member had not petitions or not, and so Mr. Brown and r.Coppock
wereof the day or night, and no part or .
risen to express his virtuous indignation at this case, and not so much to blame. In the. Norwich inquiry Mr. Brown e y
vindicate:tho purity of election. (Hear, hear.) But no was described as the legal adviser of the Carlton Club—
the
house is free front inspection. We are
doubt it was with him as with other persons in the coin- that he was in the habit of sitting in one of the washing very jealous, it appears, then, with regard to
=any, there was one rule for his friends and another for rooms there or in some pigeonhole as the adviser of the the treatment both of alleged criminals and alleged
his enemies. (Hear, hear.) If the hon• member could sit hon. and gallant colonel and th . e late Secretary at War the
' lunatics. We take care that the morally and
ember for Essex. Of course he submitted to them when
men-
quietly by and tolerate such practices as these, he (Mr. Ma- m tall_ y incapable shall have fair play.
ti tion to be withdrawn or presented, and let not
has) could only draw a conclusion against his love of purity a pe tion.was .
fell
of election. (Hear, hear.) He put it to hon• pntlemen all the indignation on . the agents,. but let some of it fall Mr. T. CHAMBERS, last night, brought befor e
opposite, if they were sincere in their professions, to . _ take on those who pulled the wires, and it would be found that the notice of the House of Commons the cos se
tins opportunity of marking, with their disapprobation, they were pulledby
members of that house. (Hear.) of a class of persons, who, without being t ‘c..
Colonel FORESTER said as the hon. gentleman had
such practice' as these. (Hear, hear.)cased either of moral or mental incapacity, ! are
Sir C. WOOD said, if they were to proceed in matters in ex Lana-
alluded to him, he wished to • few words p
of this sort with anything like judal harmony, they ought den. The hon. member state that Mr. Brown wasyetplaced beyond the operation of those bum one
.
re
his legal adviser, and that questions as to the withdrawal provisions which the law has in store for the p ,tec..
to avoid the tone taken by the bees, gentleman who had
of petitions were decided by him (Colonel Forester).honour .
It tion of criminals and lunatics. The . able
lust sat down, who had chosen to make a personal attack
on
ate bon friend the member for Westminster, simply to was unfair in the hon. member who sat on the Norwich gentleman hes, in short, taken up the cause o! : the
create a party feeling, and that was not the tone and temper committee of inquiry to bring his name before the house,
nuns of England. Sober-minded Protestants w ill lift
In which the house ought to proceed in these matters. outside a
nn that he had nothing to do with the
til after up their hands in astonishracnt at the very desig-
With regard to what had fallen from the hon. member for withdraw of the Norwich petition an '
bl he t f the class which Mr.
A taken place. The honours e mem r na ion 0 CnAtosstis wt sties to
Somerset, and the right hon. gentleman the member for it had
' that now stated that he had given directions to Mr. protect. They will be 'still more shocked . at the
Lincelasbire, it would meet with no opposition from
Brown about it—[Mr. Dunoombe—No, I did not
. say so.] honourable gentleman's statistics, TheT will be
side of the house. The system of presenting petitions and
hear)—and that Mr. Brown consulted with him on •
counter-petitions, for the purpose of pairing them off, was (hear, . . . reved to hoar, that at a time when our co ionise are
withdrawal of petitions. (Hear,hear.) lie had .
admitted by both sides of the house to be a gross abuse.
tae
edo with it. Mr. Brown was employed as an ing stunted in their growth fie want of a number
(Hear, hear.) He would not defend that side of the house, nothing to,
he received his order his of women sufficient to restore the halal ,ce between
agent, and
who had their share of Mr. Coppook'e es the other side had electioneenng ageom 55....
to
Mr. .
l d female sex th were' at -fi Ito-
, el* are y ye
their share of Mr. Arown's proceedings, which were not client, and act" . thoseorders.
. regardr“.ll.o.oa Forester) the Ina e all
creditable to either side. In the case before the house a Brown, he had certainly acteetwitn him(U i
tol
e man Cathd,..n convents in England and 'Wales. They
petition had been presented against the return of —(hear, hear)—and helped him with
.. regard he. elections will be still more surprisr4 and more shocked to hear
of petitions, at moose
31r. Atherton on the 23rd, and a petition against previous
e tot e
presenting • to do with petitions to the ouse— that if '
tile. CHAMBERS' s statement is true, there are
Lord Adolphus Vans on the 26th, for the purpose of heh. Forester bed nothing to do wih rhea—(cheer)—and no lout than 100 .I.nglo-Catholic nunneries pro-
pairing them off. If any complaint was made it ought to havingdented
be against the withdrawal of the petitions. (Hear, -hear.) the charge made
by
.41 hon.
the member was not what it fessirsw to be r' ded" b the principles of the
A y
There was, however, something a little suspicious in the that he badsat on the
ought to have been, coesi ering . _ )Cb 'Ara of Eoeind, but holding 3,I)00 femalesiE
committee of inquiry which he (Cot Forester
Unwed' bringing forward this motion, because if it was bona Norwich f".. state of me%,tal and bodily subjection. The quer.
Ars, ss the matters to which it related happened in De- attended. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE said the hon. and gallant gentle., tion moots.' b Mr. CliAmnelP last night in the
ember, it ought to have been brought forward before this;moots;' y
and Ise thought it might be considered that the election man had misunderstood him. He did not say that the In„. cetewer.a (and which was ►tiroimht fe"-ward in 'sae
which was now pending had operated to cause its gentleman directed Mr. Brown to withdraw the Norwich ly ,
=brought forward. One or other of two courses ought Petition, but that he was the legal advisee of the fseureig, .
..thr d of Lorik on Mendavl is resell thin—A:.
the
,re y t
te be pursued—either the euestion should be postponed Club, and that he had recommended the withdra• eat of :am; iemale inmates of these institutions to be placed in a
until alter that election
in wee disposed of, or this ease Norwich petition. worse situation as regards supervision than our eri-
Assad be allowed to fall into the general inquiry into the Colonel FORBSTEB"-No committee fr.d at the f'.a rhea mina's or our lunatics ? Is there to be no Habeas
Club. I was the sole and respensibfr
goodies of the withdrawal of election petitions, a notice of ~ . s •
person. I" Hear, Corpus for the benefit of Sister ANN, lingering in a
motion for inquiry into which now stood on the books, in
• hear, and cheers.)
well-walled and well-watched Convent, at the coin-
the name of the honourable member for East Mr. BENTINCX expressed $. • • t that the . •
Surrey, for the last day of this month. There had taken a parts too. Hs t►
„10 ht there ~ a
faro
i els mare . discussion mend of a Roman Catholic abbess? Is Sister EMMA,
was nothing in this petition to take it out of the whole against certain parties. fie. a brig h 4i ti;eas•
les n:ferl licking the dust at the foot of the cross in obedience to
inquiry, and he hoped the house would adopt that course. house, and an eabialeso the dictates of "ye Mother Superiour," Miss SELt.ON,
_,eat of the tights of thee' elector oef
The house ought to go into the whole question of the abuse Durham. He mesh' edherethe . • he had • 'es to be worse off in the event of her desiring to abandon
to opinionoriginally
of the right to petition against the return of members which formed. TM hies . member for Greenwich said the motion the scene of her confinement, than the constrained
had during the present sewer been shown to have led to was made is Go)
.er to get a compromise of the petition occupant of a cell in a lunatic asylum ? Mind : there
pus and discreditable jobbing. (Hear.) against Lord ..
.s. Vane, but the date of the notice of motion is no intention to dispute the right of the inmates
Mr. WALPOLE said that the last observation of the and tine st
im-'.ioe on which it was founded was an answer to
riot hon. gentleman was well worthy of eonsideration, for the' Thet. 'eon. member for Newcastle said the petition was of these establishments to take up their abode there,
*Ore could be but one opinion on both sides of the house withdre
ewn on the 26th of December, by mutual consent. in the pursuit of somo desired relief, or following
with regard to the abuse which existed of the right to pd.. The
- --a. was true ; but why was it ? Because it was ne- the dictates of some conscientious determination. We
the, and its having been made the means of discredit-Ade beam that the real and the sham petitions should do not wish to interfere with Roman Catholic nuns
compromises. Ile regretted that the member frsr East oe with Brawn before the writ for Durham, con- or An^lo-Catholic " sisters," if they are determined
4
Surrey had not persevered in ;his motion for inqn'iring intr, sequent on the death of Mr. Grainger, Id • could issue. to reei ter their vows at the feet of an abbess
all the petitions and counter-petitions whiea had been pee. The fact was that this sham petition had ben withdrawn - e n
seated. (Cries of "It stands.") He wes aware of that, but simply fur the purpose of enablieg the writ to be and
issued,
or a " Mother Superiour." All that we contend
it stood on the paper night after night. [Sir C. Wow!. here that the bona tide petition had - only been withdrawn be- for . this, that the abbess at the Mother
is
said it was thought bear to wait till all Ito petitions were cause its withdrawal was made the condition of the with- Superior shall not be entrusted with the unchecked
withdrawn. 4 He was not sure that se.sat wasadyisaede' for drawal of ; the sham one ; and these were circumstances exercise of a greater power than we allow to our
the presentation of petitions mOe'
,ot go on Until thus end of which he would undertak
eto prove if the committee were of gaols or of lunatic asylums. A nun
the session. granted him. With regard to what the hon. member for governors ,
Si W Sir C. WOOD said that 'Mutt be be.'
-.. stated was that it Finsbury had said of the agents, he quite agreed that agents when she enters a convent in England is not the less
Would be unfair to bring f
-srWa'-:._. this particular question were not the only responsible persons. They did an Englishwoman thar, she was before, and is no less
on the eve of the ROM
• • inh:nent of the election committee to their duty, whether or not that duty was contrary entitled to the prot.ection of the laws. An abbess,
which the petition •-
a.gainst the return of the sitting member to the orders of that house ; and he was not meek- whatever may be the amount of spiritual authority
;or Durham w • ing war against them ; but he was 'nailing war she exerciees over ... to be referred. With regard to the motion her nuns, cannot divest herself of
of the Me..ther for East Surrey, he had another motion on against fraudulent petitions, and against the whole the
__pm
the paper that evening for returns which would form the
groundwork of his motion for a committee of inquiry ; but kt
gate= which permitted such things. (Hear, hear.)
li rue
• but he had pledged hi po
• was sorry to divide the house , Lim-
" was
it would be useless to bring forward the motion for the tip. self to various friends to test whether or not •?...., .ouse .A. sib' ity which the laws of E l ti, fen '
Upon her. 'std y
..-• • ED an ...stell
.enoishop WIIATELY, who is not given to loose
poiatment of that committee, until after the withdrawal of in earnest in these affairs, or wheth'...r it was determined to statements, cited two examples the other evening,
all the petitions. ' deal with such •• matter as a mere party matter, witlso:it •
which tended to show that the supe ' tendents of
Mr. WALPOLE had quite understood his right noble reference to principles. Mese hear.)
friend. He did not object to the with al draw of the present Lord PALMERSTON had hoped the hon. gentleman monasteries and nunneries in Great ' aIP \ ..41,
motion until after the election committee had tried the would have agreed to the postponement of a decision on fact, act as if there were no laws to pab t Viols t r ,
petition against the return for Barham ; sµt he meant this point. lie did not deny that this might be a fit sub- of the subject. The Bishop of 1i.21140,ar;•
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Oa the motion of Mr. L. Kist, a comprehensive return
was ordered of all the election petitions, with the protect:-
logs arising out of them, during the present parliament.

MONIES PAID BY ECCLESIASTICAL COMMIS-

SIONERS.

On the motion of Lord H. VANE, en address was agreed
to for a return of all monies paid by the Ecclesiastical
Commissioners during the last year to surveyors and law-
officers out of the funds administered by them ; and of all
other monies received by the surveyors and lsw-orticers
employed by them from the cathedral and collegia•e
churches, or their lessees, for duty performed by order of
the Ecclesiastical Commissioners, or Church Estate Com-

missioners; specifying the names and particulars of each
transaction.

DOCKYARDS.

On the motion of Mr. CORRY an address was agreed to
for a return of the number of person• employed in her Ma-
jesty's dockyards and gun wharfs, and other civil establi,h-
-' ments of the Admiralty and Ordnance, who are entitled to
tote at the elections of members to serve in parliament for
each of the following boroughs:—Greenwich, Chatham,
Rochester, Harwich, Sandnich, Portsmouth, Plymouth,
Devonport, and Pembroke.

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