The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-21 00:00:00

what would be our feeling', If this nation
of great misery, with ine, mid peeteence, and wee • enema
it is true, we know battle by our own pgriow—a• thie kw.
things, for when pistlisses did visit us atztew
no means In Its most fearful kern, and famine sag ▪ e seek
to oe olionether ; pawn well know that there sea have massed wed all these things. 24 ensgsk
that wash° skald suffer thous; that ore ca,twg,,--",....746.1113.1"
seamen aided to a gassral dspreadon of trade, 11,0,4
catty Into disks's, and distress into actual 74.1
as kis so apt to do, should breed pestilence, that
dasout crowded is the narrow limits of our our
ad this misery bime=worse misery of their --°•ele
discontent should violence, sod that taa'aliaktig....,__;
bloodshed, should rage from one sad of the nation
they did •• few years back is Franne,—what
ask,--eould we give of the population committed to Tina
What account indeed could they ern, who di;;;*
condition of that neglected population in this wsalthyt.,l6
Truly when they considered how the Choi* agg "I?
those who had rule and authority in the clissu.
that
rish....,,tl:ytainsigenlittlintiefeellithhaitclierb:it
on those who had not, as faithful ate *...-7711011
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Let them not aggravate that responsibility, Aug
the danger, by refunusg the prayer of this petinoeo.
listening to the prayer of these petitioners, this bouin4
earn their gratitude, and wouldstrengthen the
mint; but neglecting it, they w.iuld turn from hwj.,-
in despair, and they would return th's reproach
10- .
that, though they professed themselves (avowable
in the abstract, yet when the opportunity., marred of rinh--
a practical proof of the sincerity of tour professions- '
then shrank from the test; and then the..partite,
kJ
that the church bad nothing to hope from their 0nee..L..""4
that the expectation which they loomed froni
bad been slighted, would turn away, their intyyn;u''
neglected, their hopes disappoir ted, and their affetikt,--'
alienated—and tell them that, in the treatment they ha--
received, they had written their own condemnation,
far as depended on them, had pronounced their
the church's doom. The hon. gentleman couslghig•-•'
loud cheers, by moving anilasi
That aa bumble address be presented to her Majesty
she will be pleased to issue a commission of bigotry istotill
contained in the petitions presented to this boon hM the
of Bishop Wearmouth and eunderland ; and that tkeemie rare •
shiners be directed to take into consideration the
parliament (on the authority of the patron of the llag oerki:
Wearmouth) to have been entered into between himethafg
present incumbent, whereby the surplus femme of the iisl.
and above the sum of 2,0001. a year, reserved as the lame Asa
cumbent, is to be paid over to trustees; and to Inertia emit
mode of appropriat that eurplus to Kitimat mum ...vs
with tbs two parishes, and of giving legal gad to _a—.
priatioa. """e
Mr. MANGLES seconded the no'lie.
The question leaving been put,
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and denied the dothios at
egh
copal irresponoihility which had been attnbuted to lain
the hon. gentleman. He never laid down any such Onnizih'
The hon. gentleman quoted various passages os thank
which he thought were unnecessary, hien% itienht
disputed that bishops having high authority Mats theft
were responsible. They held • public trust, agd
bound to exorcise any patronage or soy power key
pre sees with a due regard to the service and Nosh ohni
thumb, and for the promo'i in of the 'Tirane' *dhow
the peorle committed to their charge. (Hear,
Of this there could be no doubt whatever. Ben itieg
large step to go from that doctrine and to soy thyi laud
particular case where a party exercised his plump
particular way, or in favour of • particular pence, wail.
taro trusts and duties annexed, the House of -
ssmge
ahould interfere and declue wheth,r that poltroons
exercised rightly or not. It might be that the how, hag
a case, would los led to discuss trtheamiens of whichityn
perfect knowledge, because, with regard to the dung*
of patronage in the diocese of Durham, or in say gig
diocese, no person might be authorised to see* ebb
effect of that distribution of patronage by the keg,
It did so happen, that in this particular case, beltway
of the Bishop of Durham, 6f which he was augg
ashamed, notwithstanding all that had been Impute Ms
right rev, prelate, he wrote a private letter to Wait
distribution of patronage, but not in the sense of wheel
hon. gentleman spoke, but merely to Aids:kik
trusted he should soon hear of his being quite evarthifi
culties with which the distribution of patronage sad asp
riding for the spiritual care of so large a perish oaths
cumbered. But the hon. gentleman, in pa:coati
motion for inquiring into what had been done vamp
to the parish of Bishop Wearmoutb, in whisk he is
a great many imputation on the Bishop of Doha
had certainly confirmed one part of the gamut el
I
alTaiitniostnethrse—anpatapoienly' "
tm cniht
t of either
badithern
of theo e*
preseatmlietnetesbi al
Bishop Wearmouth and Sunderland, both of wham ow
clergymen of exemplary character end of great mishandle.
votion." (Hoar, hear.) The hon. gentleman dish
appointment of the present rector of Bishop Wenire
would be a blessing to the parishioners. (Heir, keu
complaints were made in that house, he should have dug
it would have been on the ground of the immotality true
ranee of the persons who bad been appointed tecton. 1:
the hon. gentleman disavowed any such chthe. E
must protest against the doctrine of the hon. se
Deccan that individuals having church pew
might use it solely for their own indickluel hat
whilst bishops were and to consider it as a pubic tea
and to use it for the public advantage. He thought inn
person who, either by inheritance or purchase, benne p
eased of such patronage, and had to appoint clone
to the cure of souls, would neglect a solemn deity, Mae
his proprietorial rights might be, if, in appointing ads
to large and populous parishes, or even to scull punkt)
used such patronage to his own individual benefit 1k
hear.) Having met that charge, it remained to es
what other charges these petitioners made. Now itths
the inconvenience of bringing forward motions of thish
in the House of Commons, that having received fres
Bishop of Durham a statement of the arrogation*
he made, he had received no general explanation hoe
of the grounds on which he proceeded in his diatribes:
the revenues of the parish. He d'd not know Ovine
tent he carried inquiry, what were his general tin:
the subject, what was the nature of the repeal=
made to him, or on what grounds he expected Wan
Tell creme Zits which he made were the best that could ku
for the parish. And if be, who was a friend for marl
of the Bishop of Durham, wee quite ignorant co thse
ject, how could it be expected that in every ease dna*
which might be brought forward either oh
spent to the distribution of patronage by de
mister of the crown, or any one eh.
house could go through the ground. on which the off%
meat ought to be made, or those on which it mist
fonder. The hon. gentleman alleged other proudest
motion arising from the state of the pogulmisni
parishes and their spiritual wants, which e aid CM,
sufficiently provided for by the arrangements nook fr-
ae
Bi Bishop
cumstanceef Douf r
whichham tNheowlitet.'greenwtl cs
but to which he did not give that prominence whir
locoed to it, and which was the very essence of the per
and complaint. Bishop Wearmouth was connected e
the town of Sunderland, but the parish of Bishop Ws
.
mouth was distinct from the parish of Sunderland. no,
asemlbsenretx,a
kremi,silkedi
gentleman said that the town of Sunderland bad mole
and starving persona who lived in wretched houses, std=
they were very badly off, both as respected their tsar
and spiritual wants. That he believed to be a true re
sentation of their case, as he understood from letter' b";
coined from persons unconnected with the Bishop 0! I.
ham. He was told that there were persons in the ton
Sunderlsnd who made a large profit out of very small lor
in which the poor were miserably cared for, and when:
want of cleanliness end the necessaries of life led ta
illness and to great mortality. (Hear.) That he berseedv
the case, and it was a great misfortune ; but it we s o
of things wholly unconnected with the dierilnal
church patronage. The petitioners prayed that 'moor
distribution of the surplus revenues of the rectory of H
Wearmouth should be applied to the support of the stir
and chapels in the town of Sunderland. This we" s
with which it would be difficult for the bishop to can!
(hear) ; and with which it would be difficu It for that
or the commissioners to deal. Here were too distieeteo'
ed to bete"
plied to its spiritual wants, because it happen
it. If this was a reasonable ground for such a deustrai4
and one asked to have the surplus revenues a the ode,
obvious that any poor parish in this metropolis 110.1 d
similar one for the revenues of a neighbouring n
et
Those who paid the tithes of such a rich perishas
thought, be very slow te comply with such a de un,
hand over their tithes to the rector of the mien',
parish. It was not the law, and if it were he 9.fteg.',:
would be complained of as a great injustice. low
lived in the rich parish would be entitled to say st 111:7
" Let the tithes which are taken from us be gi(
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benefit of the church at large ; for we see no anion tt
other parish, merely because it is nesr•i'
take the tithes which belong to to, 551 it.,
been devoted from ancient times to ont
benefit." The bisho did not think he bed 1,172
power. He told him (Lord J. Russell)thathe 7.°:'
a petition on the subject, but he aid, that what
spiritual wants of the place might be, he hal::: II
by law to comply with what was asked for, or to
one parish what properly belonged to another • 7_
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bishop did was this. The late rector, who was
dent, had an income of 3,8001 a year. A new w'
d of s'
been appointed, to whom an income was assiezw_va
1,2001. The petitioners and the hon. gentleman than_
•d thief
beside to be only 1,2001. Then it was said ,
beside a park which was worth 6001•
era`
be 2,0001., but all that he could say was that he dm
but which he was informed was of no such value,
telriesi
was not likely to be used for building ground. .nTb,hte',.,
surplus which vrouldbe given o poor chap
and there was besides another Pam arising from 7,
way leaves, amounting altogether to 1,00/
the bishop also proposed to place in the hands ofmi,'A
he applied in future years to the benefit of these
chspelries. Whether this was a fair
immediately distribution,
whew
proper sum had been g toes!
Riven the rector. whether
pelries ought to be augmented, shod,
it was proper and just that this sum
placed in the hands of trustees for the futon
mmentation of chapelries, was not the eIiPT„
He could pronounce no opinion whatever ors the b
not baying had the full particulars before bimn.er.
say was, that the arrangement had been 'vide 1,
tr;
ot.l.
a view to give a large portion of the income _7;:i
reef),
for the spiritual benefit of the parish. end
the income of the chapelries. He should 1!01r_f,.,,
chapelry would be so augmented that each cleTec 7in
officiated in it would receive a competent _W w_,
he trusted, one so lowi'as 1001. a year, though
exist in the way of a different arrangement ethet W
w
to say. But the hon. gentleman, after saying yed ii,iound so,
a sum had been given to the rector, turn
_nowit
that the rector, by making certain tumoral', that
bishop, had entered into a 'monism' barlifwegown
consequently null and void, and that it
could hold good in law. Well, if that were so, it