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London, England, 1848-07-22 00:00:00

each measures, measures, there was none in 1847. The hon. member
__Attlee noticed the urns' measures which had been pre-
fer Ireland, and concluded by asking the
r„; to give to his countrymen the principle at
the British constitution, and not its cold and cheerless
image. Let them do this and the loyalty and valour of the I
Isiah people might be depended on in all circumstanced I,
and in all dangers, as in times past. This wee '
the spirit in which he was anxious they should eon.
ciliate the affeetions of the Irish people. (" Oh," and
hear, from the ministerial benches.) The sneer from
hon gentlemen en the other side well became men who,
when out of office, found their priefit in encouraging or con-
tieing at every species of agitation. (Cheers and counter
cheers.) He called upon them to show that all their pro-
tithes were not mere pv•tenees, but that they were really
*nee us Inc the welfare of Ireland, by agreeing to his motion,
vie.; That a select comneitt. e be -mpoieted to inquire into
the law and practice of striking juries, in criminal cases in
Ireland, and especially into the facts connected with the
Among of the juries in the late cases of "The Queen against
Willem Smith O'Brien, M.P. ;" " The Queen against
Thomas Mher ;" and "T
heu. en against John !ditched."
Mr. AN eagS
I EY seconded t motion.
Sir`O.OREY.—I thought the hon. gentleman promised at
the cominerrement of his speech that he would keep entirely
to the point of his motion, and chow the house that whatever
might he the tone of his spec hes made elsewhere—them,
bear)—that to night, at least, he would show that he could
tiger within the bounds of toleration, and that, influenced
only by a pure love of justice and a desire to promote itedue
administration—(cheers and coenter cheers)—he would
abstain from every topic not necessarily connected with the
point he had to establish. (Hear, hear.) How he had kept
that promise, at least in the latter part of his speech, the
house is in a position to judge. (s. Hear," and "Oh.") I
do not cimplain of the tone he has adopted. fur I do not
expect from the hon. gentleman, so long as I am
a member of a governmme which does not reeognise I
bis merits, ant thing hut violent party speeches directed
against us —(chmens and . oh")—most unfairly impugning'
our conduct since we have been in office, forgetful altogether
how the government were engaged in endeavouring to miti-
gate the distress of that country, the severest perhaps that
any country ever saffered—(cheered—and postponing the
discussion of political rights to the higher duty of feeding the
hungry, clothing the naked, and rescuing from starvation
and death thousands of the hon. member's countrymen,
while be was holding up to them the phantom of repeal.
(" Hear, hear," and interruption.) Her Majesty's govern-
ment, so long as they held Atte, will not be deterred from
discharging their duty to the country, and taking those
measures en their own responsibility which the law au-
thorises them to take, or reeking for additional powers to
maintain the peace of Ireland or any other out of the em-
pire by any taunts of the hon. gentleman—(" oh, oh," and
cheer)—who in 1841 was an ardent repealer and an humble
worshipper of the late Mr. O'Connell, and who at that
time spoke of the government of Lord Melbourne
as the moot paternal government that had ever existed, laud-
ing it with all the eloquence which he has to-night displayed
—wino in 1;144 wrote a pamphlet equally laudatory of Earl
de Or, y, and who, since he has taken his seat in this house,
and while a petition was pending agaiest his return, gave
the present government no reason to suppose that he would
be found among their opponents. if they would use their in-
fluence to defeat the petition. (01k, end hear.)
Mr. KEOGH.-1 assert in the moat distinct terms that
that is untrue. (Hear, and order.)
Sir G. GREY.—Then I mud have been misinformed.
Mr. KEOGH—I repudiate all the assertions of the right
hon. baronet, except as regards the pamphlet, and I will
explain when he has done. (Hear.)
Sir 0. GREY.-1 apprehend. not all; for I find that in
1841, at a dinner given TO Mr hon. member for Mayo, Mr.
Dillon Brown, to congratulate him on his return, Mr. Keogh
was present, when Mr. Browne made an eloquent speech.
(Mr. Keogh here made an observation which was not heard
in the gallery.) Perhaps it was not the same Mr. Keogh,
but it was a Mr. William Keogh; and I find by the
report that when Mr. Browne spoke in favour of
repeal the whole assembly rose and shouted " Dillon
Browne and repeal." (Hear, and cries of " Oh.")
Mr.l) Browne subsequently proposed Mr. O'Connell'e health,
to which Mr.W. Keogh responded, in a speech with which, as
the house has already had a very long one from that hon. and
learned gentleman, I will not now trouble it. But in that
speech be not only spoke in terms of the most unqualified
approbation of Mr. O'Connell, hut declared that they were
fighting for the constitutional liberties of England under that
hon. and learned gentleman and the paternal government of
Lord Melbourne. (Cheers and laughter.) All I will fur-
ther say upon the subject is that her Majesty's government
will not be deterred by that hon. member's taunts from pro-
posieg such measures es they may deem essential for the
welfare and security of Ireland. The right hon.
gentleman proceeded to observe that he entirely concurred ha
the opinion expressed by the hon. gentleman the member for
Athlone as to the necessity of a fair and impartial adminis-
tration of justice ; and he believed that nothing had bean
done by the sheriff inconsirent with that opinion, with law,
or with custom. The hon. gentleman said that the conduit
of the sheriff must be imputed to the government, because
he was appointed by the government. But the hon. gentle-
man would have shown more regard for that fair adminb-
tration of justice for which he professed so great an admira-
tion if he had explained that the government selected the
sheriff from only three names which were submitted to it by
the chief-justice. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman had
impugned the conduct of the eh, riff, but failed altogether
in establishing the charge against him of unfairly end I
partially selecting Irons the list in order to obtain
a conviction against Mitchel. The hon. gentleman passed
over much too lightly the challenge to the array which took
place in open court. The sheriff did nothing in the CAM
which he was not fully authorised to do by law. He was
bound to return a certain number out of the list, and he did
so in the ordinary course, which the hon. member himself it.
a degree admitted by taking exception to the alphabetical
arrangement adopted in the case of Frost. As for the
charge that Roman esthetics had been struck off because
they were so, he begged altogether to deny it. The Attor-
ney-General in his instructions to Mr. Kemrnis, the crown
solicitor, required him not to set aside any person
ea the ground of his religion ; but he at the same
time observed that the instructions of Sir Michael O'Loghlems
not to set aside persons upon the ground of their political
opinions, although applicable to and to be observed in the
case of ordinary trials, was not applicable to and ought not
to be observed in this. The Attorney-General said, "It is
not and never was my wish or intention that any persons
should be set aside on account of their religious opinions;
but respecting their political opinions, I do not think that
the instructions given by previous law officers were ever in-
tended to apply to the present case, where the party is to be
tried for a political offence which is openly countenanced by
a political association, or that we should not set aside
all persons whoa, upon inquiry, we found to entertain
the political opinios of thatheir occupation as well
i a all others
who from the nature of t were likely to be
deterred from a fair discharge of their duty." Now that was
his answer to the charge brought against the Roman
catholic Attorney-General of Ireland ; and he asked the
honourable gentleman opposite whether he dimmed
from the sentiments expressed in that letter by the
Attorney-General, or whether if he held that office
himself he would not have acted in a similar
manner. He introduced the name of Mr. Campbell.
Now, Mr. Campbell was a grocer, and be believed he had
been set aside wholly on the last ground alluded to in the
Attoroey•General's letter—namely, that his trade would
have been in danger of being ruined had he been nominated
00 the jury. Taking all these circumstances into
consideration, he asked the house whether these
charges were well founded. With regard to Mr.
Kelly, he had been struck off because he was a
• magistrate. But, without further remerk, he would read a
lettir from the Attorney. General to the Lerd.Lieutenant
respecting the formation of the jury lists. (The right hon.
gentleman then read a very long letter from Mr. Monahan,
stating that he did not believe that a single person had been
struck off from the list on account of his religious opinions,
and that he, as a Roman cateolie, would be no party to such
a course. He explained that Mr. Fitzgerald had been left
in,beisg *Roman catholic, but under an erroneous impression
as to his political sentiments, as he went to a repeal meeting
soon after, and took credit teethe part he had acted on the jury.)
The hon. gentleman and himself were now before eke
house, and he would leave the case to their decision.
(Hear.) The hon. gentleman had taunted hie noble friend
(Lord J. Russell) for having left the house when he was
about to bring on his present motion. His noble friend was
engaged in his very important duties elsewhere, and he (Sir
G. Grey) must tell the hon. member that his noble
friend's character was before the country, and was very well
able to sustain anything the hon. member could say ,
against it.
Mr. KEOGH, in explanation, said that he bad been
charged by he right hon. baronet with having offered to
give his support to the government, if the government would
withdraw the petition against his return.
Sir G. GREY said what he said was that. the hon. mem-
ber
had not given the government meson to suppose he would
vote against them if the petition was withdrawn. 1
Mr. KEOGH.—Then that charge was refined away by 1
the means of two negatives. He had next been charged ,
with having been a repealer. He never was a repealer—be
had often expressed his sentiments most strongly against a
repeal of the legislative union ; and the hon. member
fry Dundalk would bear him out in his assertion.
Mr. HAWES said that a very unexpected, a very uajusti- I
Sable attack hadbeen made upon him by the hon. member. i
He gave that attack a most enure and complete repudiation. ,
He lied been no party in any way, direct or indirect, to any
petition against the bon. and learned member ; he had not
even the eightest knowledge of any such petition being en
foot. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. ANSTEY supported the amendment, amid continu-
ous cries of " Oh, oh," upon which, at length, the bon. and
learned gentleman moved that the house do now adjourn—a
motion which, as at once putting a stop to the speech of the
hon. and learned gentleman himseif, created a general laugh
throughout the house.
Mr. REYNOLDS thanked the hon. and learned member
for the opportunity he had thus unexpectedly afforded him
—(laughter)--of addressing the house. He had been ap-
pealed to as to the character of the esthetics who had been
excluded from the juries on the trials of Messrs. Mitchel,
Mesgber, and O'Brien. He had no hesitation in saying
that he knew these gentlemen to be men of the highest per-
sonal character, and he bad as little hesitation in expressing
the opinion that their exclusion had been the result of foul
play en the part of some of the local authorities.
Mr. HUDSON wished to know the authority
the hon. and learned member for Athlone had the
government with influencing the election committee for that
borough. This was a great constitutional question ; and it
was due to the house that the grounds should be stated cis
which the charge was made.
Sir G. GREY was very happy to satisfy the curiosity of Ids
hon. friend. The government had no power of tamnsAl Psti,
lions to be withdrawn • but it was no unhand Ming for
arraagemeata to be trade in the way of conversation

amongst individual members. The hen. and learned gentle.
nun having denied the statement, he was bound to accept
the denial.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE (being loudly called for) said he
must protest against the idea that any one who gave his sup.
port, or his money, to a candidate at an election, wes hound
by all the opinions of that candidate. He did not consider
that by countenancing a repeal candidate be was furthering
repeal; he might be influenced by far other roneieerations.
(Rear, hear) No member in the house had suffered more
than himself by his opposition to repeal. (Hear, hear.) If
he chose he could give a satisfactory answer to the question
of the hon. and learned gentleman about the cheque ; but,
upon principle, and out of respect to the house and his own
independence, he should decline to do so. (Cheers )
Mr. ANSTEY rose, but was met with cries of .` Spoke."
The SPEAKER mid he could not again address the house
unltes hr meant to withdraw the motion.
Mr. imam ERTON.—I shall certainly oppose the with-
drawal of the motion for adjournment. (Cries of " Divide.")
Sir 0. GREY hoped the house would allow the division
to take place on the motion of the hon. and learned member
for Athlone.
After a deeultory cenvereetion,
Mr. BANK ES said he hoped that, before the division; the
hon. secretary for Ireland would answer the question whether
he, as • member of the government, hail drawn cheques to
deka the expanse of supporting an election petition. (No,
no.) He disputed the rightof the hon. gentleman, in the
important ottlinel situation he held, to act se as to support
principle. of which the government were daily expressing
their aversi.m (Hear.
Mr. LABOUC HERE hoped his eight hon. friend (Sir
W. Somerville) would not add anything to the ei swer he
had already given, and which was just what honour and
principle dictated. The idea that he had disbursed the funds
of the government could never have entered any ones head ;
and he was perfectly right in refusing to be catechised on
the manner is which he had spells I his own private funds.
(Cheers.) He hoped the motion for adjournment would
not now be pressed ; but considering the icte hour, and
that the house met again at noon, it would be better to ad-
journ the debate, rather than get rid of the question by ad-
journing the house
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said his right hon. friend had
correctly described his motives. lie had understood the
hon. and leariled gentleman opposite to charge him with
giving money as a private individual ; and on that account,
thinking that the hon. gentleman had no right to put the
question. he hail declined to answer it. As to whether, in
his public capacity as secretary of Ireland, he had furthered
the election of a member of that house, he begged to meet it
with a distinct deniaL (Cheers.)
Mr. MONSELL advocated the adjournment of the
debate.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped that
the house would divide, as at the present period of the ses-
sion it would be most inconvenient to have an adjourned
debate on a motion tor going into committee of supply.
The house divided on the question of the adjournment of
the hence.
For the adjournment 22
Against it 155-133
On our re-. ntrance to the gallery,
Mr. ANSTEY was addressing the house, and complained
of a misquotation of a speech of the honourable member
for Athlone, on the part of the right honourable
baronet (Sir G. Grey). There was no parity between the
conduct pursued by the late government in the case
of Mr. O'Connell, end that pursued by the present govern-
ment with respect to the late trials became the late govern-
ment were right supposing that all the persons whom they
struck off were repeaters, hut there was no reason for sup-
' poring with respect to four Roman catholics who were struck
()Min the recent trial of Mr. Mitchel that they were re-
pealer,. The hoe. member continued to address the house
in ti e midst of loud vociferationsaud groans from all parts of
the house.
Mr. FAGAN moved the adjournment of the debate.
Mr. ANSTEY seconded the motion.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but were speedily re-
admitted.
Mr. SADLEIR was appealing to the government to con-
sent to an adjournment.
Sir G. GREY reluctantly assented, and the debate was
adjourned until Monday next.
RAZING OF STOCK IN TRADE.
Mr. C. LEWIS obtained leave to bring is a bill to con-
tinue, for a time to he limited, the exemption of inhabitants
from liability to be rated as such in respect of stock in trade
or other property to the relief of the poor.
THE OMITTED LETTER.
Lord G. BENTINCK moved an address, praying that her
Majesty would be graciously pleased to direct the Earl of
Elgin and Kincardine forthwith to transmit to her Majesty's
Secretary of State for the Colonies copies of the omitted
' correspondence between the Provincial Secretary of Canada
and the Secretary to the Montreal Board of Trade, and to
direct that the same may he laid before this house.
Mr. B. HAWES objected to the use of the word " Cor-
respondence." The only matter omitted was one letter.
Lord G. BENTINCK defended the expression.
Sir G. GREY thought the wording of the motion very
unusual, and suggested the motion should be postponed, in
order to be re-worded.
Lord G. BENTINCK said be would make a formal
motion on going into supply. (" Oh ")
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they
simply wanted the thing to be done properly.
Motion postponed until the first supply night.
OTHER CORRESPONDENCE.
Lord G. BENTINCK then moved an address for copies
of any correspondence, petitions, or memorials relative to
the tepee' of the navigation laws, which may have been
sent home by the governor of New Brunswick.
Mr. HAWES said the usual way of wording the motion
was " copies or extracts."
Lord G. BENTINCK had no confidence in Colonial-office
extracts. (" Hear, hear," from Mr. C. Anstey.)
HeMr. did not want the noble lord's confidence.
only wanted the usual forms attended to.
The motion, as amended by Mr. linwie, was then put and

agreed to.
On Mr. PARKER bringing up a bill, and moving that it
be read a first iinse,
Lord G. BENTINCK said—Oh, no; after this I shall ob-
ject to doing anything more.
Sir G. GREY.—It is only • first reading.
Lord G. BENTINCK.—I object, sir.
The house adjourned at a-quarter after 2.

DUBLIN ELECTION COMMITTEE, YESTERDAY.
Scrutiny.resumed ; three votea struck from the sitting mem•
ber's majority.

the erprefos.

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LONDON, SATURDAY,JULY 22.
Tile cause of liberty end progress, as well as of
order and security in Ireland, has been jeopardised, if
not destroyed, by a score of the most vain and infa-
tuated jackanapes that ever country was cursed with.
Political agitation, for the sake of raising a de-
graded and besotted population to a sense of its
wrongs, is often a sacred duty,. The conti-
nuance of that agitation, in order to wrest
concessions from a timid government, or to enable a
weak government to overrule the scruples of bigot
supporters in giving justice to the oppressed—this
may be legitimate. An agitation, preparatory to
open rebellion, combining acuteness of foresight and
firmness of purpose with prudence of speech—this,
however criminal, may not be impolitic, if the
antagonist aimed at be embarrassed, or weak,
or unprepared, or beset by a host of enemies.
Bat to agitate from pure vanity, to begin with
wordy brag, and then be forced to go on in
crescendo from extravagance to treason, merely to keep
a position on the popular stage—to do this in the face
of a strung, an unprovocative government, not illi-
beral in its intentions, unembarrassed with foreign foes,
were a folly which, did it implicate merely such persons,
were well avenged with a birch rod. But when one
considers the blind, the brave, the headlong, and
ignorant thousands whom it flings 1171.311 the cannon's
mouth and the bayonet's point, in the maddest sad
most hopelees of causes, there are no words to swan
its amount of guilt as well as folly. Liberty is dear
and independence is dear. The Irish have a great
deal of both, and we would win them more.
But for any amount of either between what
they have and what they might have, to let loose the