The Express.
London, England, 1856-04-26 00:00:00

(Stamped id. Additional.) [TWOPENCE.

the tine other Mejesty's Anita at Gosport, and therefore
ties embarkation then was confin-d to her Me) sty !rid
thus who were in her suite. The other too points
of embarkation were P rtsmontb and Southampton.
It was nuessary to provide for the embarkation ot ell at
th se two pieces, and we expected that by far the grea•est
crowd sod imeoweeniente would be saw veneed et Ports-
mouth. A large class of persons, who would naturally be
maximse to see the review, wen the 'noel officers riming
la had ab..at Portsmouth and their friends, Those who
welshed to see the fleet before the review took place were
*dittos lis large numbers at Portessouth ; and I cannot
give a better test of what we believed would be the comps-
relive numbers embarking et 8 oitt atoptoo and at Pors-
mouth, than by stating that we provided 23 enamels fir
motheaten at Porremouth, and only sic at B,urhampton.
Toe greatest erswd b lag likely to be at Portsmouth, cep- -
chilly of persons on the spot, tad those who were 1 wetly
resident sad untreated, it was obvioorly teemist conve-
nient coarse that persons going down from Loodon should
go to Southampton, there rang less stprehension of their
being incommoded by the pressers of other ponies
than there wee at Portsmouth. Aso her considera-
tion was, that at Portsmouth the distance from the railway
station to the dockyard or sally-pvt, when the parties were
as embark, is between half and gnat-quartets of a mile ;
while ar Southampton the trains discharge their passengers
with n 900 or 300 yards of the dockyard wail. I hop, en to
have a lively recollection of the Mese which took pith r two
y. an ego ; and I remember that there w.s no difficulty
whets,. r when persons pot into the train or the vessel, but
toe greatest confusion prevailed ingesting term the rail}-pint
of the dockyard to the railway station, and also in soros
trom the railway to the vessel of embarkation. This con-
fusion was much lees st Southampton than at Portemnth.
Acotcer consideration was, thee the detest:et between
London and Southampton was smaller than between London
sad Portsmouth. We thought it desirable that the two
honou of parliament should be put to the least possible in-
esouvenience—(tronical cheere)—so far as we mill foresee.
(Hear.) It was to part of cur business to provide t onveysnes
from tee railway station to the ship side ; and bon. seet'emen
will tee that the shorter the pingo from the railway-
ettion to the ship side, the less the Inconvenience to those
who had to make it. At Southampton it was only 200 cr
300 yards from the railway to the water-edge; at Ports-
mouth it lens nearly a mile; therefore we believed that the
ineonvenienee would be infinitely less at Southampton than
at P. rtemouth.
Colonel NORTH—WouId it not have been possible to
embark trite the Clarence D.ek 1 (Hear )
Sir C. WOOD-1 have stet d already why we thought it
desirable to reserve the Clarence Dock for her Majesty aid
suite. This was done, and nobody else embarkei there.
Unless toe emberkation of her Majesty had taken place at
the precise time appointed, it would not barn been possible
for the fir et to have gone through the pteseribed evolution.,
and therefore this wu most easential. Thou were the
reasons why Southampton was selected; and though a iv eat
deal o.fcomplaint as to that erlonion has been made yester-
day and to-day, 1 mentioned the arrangement to a somber
of members of this house before hand, and I sever heerd
eny one disapprove of it. Had we supposed that the ar-
raegusent would not be a coolonient one for •he mem-
bers of both houses, we should base endeavoured to VW tilt
that convenience by making moms other Air tenement. N
I come to the weasels which were arprocriatad to the two
Inane, the Transit and the PeraeTerenee. With regard to
the latter vessel some alarm w-s est rested in this blouse,
and guanou were tithed by Mr. Lindsey, which I answered
at same length, giving my regions for the melemin of that
vessel. Oa a subsequent cieesston 1 was shed &question on
the same select by Mr 0. Stanley; end lan assn the
house that it was not my inteutu n ;o be discoutteoas in an-
swering that question, but if the house c,nld but know one
tenth put of toe vexation we had to go through in connec-
tion with these arrangement., they w• uld make some
little allowance for our difficulties. (Hear, hear.) I
hops that hon. members wuo were embarked on board
the Peru aaaaa ee hod no reason to oomplain of the
inadequacy of that vessel, or that the-r manna were not
p.operly c insulted. (Hear, hear.) I fled from the report
of the commanding officer of the% vessel, that she was hark
ti Southampton at half-past six o'c!oz.k, and that every
member had left her by a quarter before seven. (Hear,
hear) Considering the unfortutate display whims to k
tine in the morning, that was as little behind time as could
possibly be meted. The other vessel eir ptiyed was the
Truett. It is %shady ma titM MMus able vessel wee
going eat to the editerrinean a leak occurred, end she
put into Brest for repairs (Hear, hear.) But hon. a...ti-
mes really seem to think tt at because an occident ones
hat pens to a vessel, however well it may be r "sired, she
mast for ever after be incapable of toe performacce of any
duty. I think the hon. member for Tenemouth must koow
hire r than :het. The evident to the be afar of the Transit
was about a ye or ego, end since that time she has and. rg nth
a complete repair in the dock. SW was pi rf cly reedy for
wens on the 2204 of March, the only ego run being that
one of her port-holm war defective— ( laugh)—but this, in
nom , effected either the moot or the boilers. It waist
have the effect of reduciag her spec —(renewed laugh er)—
I speak with the report o' the doeky ird officer lithe, me—
et redwing her speed from 11 to 10 knots en hoar. Bet she
was revolted fit to go to the Crimea, and she w• old hays gone
there—(great hoghter)—yes, I ear the would have loos
then bad the war oectianed. (Derisive cheers.) There was a
porton that some put of her machinery was defective on
Wednesday. I did not hear liar uest.l this or rein g; 1 im-
mediately telegraphed both to Sir George Seymour and to
Cremonese Johnson, and I find that there is no defect in
her machinery of any sort sr kind; but that which really did
helium was, that her fires were let out. (Gent laughter.)
I perfectly apse tat teat Walt piece of gross negligence oar
the part of thou in charge of the vessel, but hon. gentlemen
will see shot it was nee of shoes accidents whieh it ta impro
Able to provide against by any order given beforehand.
C maunder Macdonald, of toe Peneverasoe, bas bus
sp ,ken of in very high terms: and it is oily fair to Com-
mander Johann. of the Trenrit, to ante tint he is an
silkier of as great ability as any in the navy. He served
under the pliant admiral on my right its the Syrian cam-
paign; he commanded a steamer In the Pacific for three
yeere, where be was distinguished for his good conduct, sod
not only earned the approbation of the Admiralty, bat was
thanked by Briteh eurehanrs there and by Llo.d's hi re.
He was then selected by • private company to command one
of their large steamers; sod in the first year ot the war, he
was annotated to the commend of the Transit. Ido nit
believe that there is en officer of higher character in the
nosy. This accident took place, which I have i alp reard of
to day by telegraph ; end I immediately replied directing
en legality to be instituted as to such s gross piece of negli
genes as that of letting the fires go low. But there was no
defect in the vessel in soy way; and hon. gentlemen will
hardly sty that the Admiralty ought to have issued an
order that they should not let the 9r. sgo out. It was tedit-
possibly ousseaty for the accommodation of the two houses
that they should be embarked ia vessel. of sufficient size
Two your ago the number to be accommodated was much I
fewer, and it being in the middle of summer and exceedingly
settled weather, it was not necessary to provide shelter. On
this cc scion we made provision for secomm 'dation all
ander 'tower, oa the lower deck, supposing that they were
driven from the open deck by the weather. Two yeers ages
the number of tickets tuned for the house of herds was 160
sale, end for ti is house 220; on the present occasion the
numbers were 400 sod 460, being more then doable the
former number'. In poet of foci all kad tickets who chose
to eyply. It was, therefore, nereoary to provide 1
Meal, I will read tho order which was gives to Sir
George Seymour, to show that the Admiralty really neg-
lecter no prectution,tiveo in very minute details.
H.Y.S. Twat 1•11 embark the How of Peers, mad the renewer-
'sae the Bones of Cunene, at Southampton, at 11 o'clock 2.m. of
the 21rd inst. Roth thins to be there early en the Thad, or on the
previous day. The commanders of them week my to direct the
military Seward. to provide breekliet, art! also a cold collation &t-
-ine the day, to include she ry, beer, end soda wan, Mr the tailbo-
ne nester of pewee, and at the ethane, of the Admiralty ;
Truett, NO persons; Perseverance. 430. The swum plates, Ste
most be hived kr the ocwien. The mare sun Ace, me to be end- d
from twee sweets to afford mote spew, aid tables ere to be on the
main attain, also p'atforms round the sidle. to Abed aseceamodeti
for game who and be oe board. Mr Omni Wyman' to live ti's
Deoweary orders; and my lord. moat the of them ne-
se* to give awletaztee In their power to carry out the mo-
wed arrangement •is • eanstaetory manner. Eash meet to wry
• diolllll/1111111iIIK ILI at the lore, cn the 2nd net, newly, Tramiit,
hi u with bine noes; Pereeveranee, blue.
-hi
Johnson smote to us to say that he bad ample
room on his auk for 400 per/roosts sit down. On the lag
oecason there was a great complaint of the want of hot
water f r tea ; ha adds, " We Mal have t ot water ad .Otd-
that." (Laughter) The point on which the whole tini-
est y tans is the conveyance flora London. (Hear, hear.)
Had the conveyance from London been performed as we had ,
every reason to suppose it would be performed, lam per-
, teeny convinced that no difficulty whatever would hare
occurred. Of merle, it was not for au to pr vide that con-
.tisane; but we communicated with tee winger and
directors of the railway; and I hold In my hand the paper
which they scot to us, et etiog what they were prepare.' to
do Trois No 3. Members of the House ot Pe, rs and
the House of Comae's. To leave London for Southamp
ton at 7 , and to arrive at Southampton about 9.16 cm
—(laupliter)—retitraing from Southampton shout ha t-past '
in the shames." (Bear, boar) We had several inter-
views with Mr. Sent, the manner. Captain Milne
saw him several times at the Admiralty, and I saw
him ones. Captain Milne sent him a
the number of persons who were to be COOT* yed by this
train two or three days befit. thereon. took plus. Ey ry
I ossible information was given which would enable him to
risks arrangements in the most perfect meaner. So lately
as Tuesday morning Captain Milne saw Mr. Sent, and ex-
pressed has desire that so delay or iscommuissos should
take place. Mr. Scott a•ssred him that its mod bs under
to apprehensioa whatever, that they had taken every prs.
'caution is their power, that all would be right, and that we
might depend oa Ma trots delivering its cargo', it I may ea
soli it, at the tilos specified is the omapasy's statement.
(lieu, Mu.) I coolly do so% kiow whit more we could do

Ito enure a proper gad perfect rionvetaece from town to
Southampton. 1 think, before I sit Mitre, I shell be • ble
to menses the house tl at it the tendert iaing f the rail-
, wry eorepsny had tees perform. d, there realy w. old have
been 1.0 difficulty. fns meat passage shay bed to go
the ugh was Crum the railway '0 tee w iter-side.
We wrote to the Mayor of Southampton begging him
to take precautions to
b:iiketsikaeop. tairdoriapeomrsoinneg
i‘firomm:atthe,ropeit:rniini.i..lttgliae
wag authorised to acomesseicate with him on the ~tablet' It
has been said that to person wee choreal to elspeensued he
embarking of the memben of the two houses. I can only
gag that. Captain Mscdoestal, an old and esperieseeti dl .r,
*he is the packet of cheeped with the • mbeekeeior. of
kelps at Southamptomwae Jul...timed so long Alp ne the, 10th
eit Atrii, that the members of tee two holies would em teak
at Soul baniptrn on the 23rd; and h- was desired to makes
arrangements for seeing [beta pat an board. It b. mg a' mi-
sery, from the state of the tide, that the la •as verge
is
which they were to embark Mould ue at mime dMuree
frees the shore, we desired him to hire sm-11 steamers , nick
mild lie along the water-aide ; no that nulls lord, at &boo.
gentlemen might step from the wharf to the weasel, and Pe at
once treemerred to the larger Tosser. He reported taw he
could on y hire two, me which we ordered the rah ir teams
from Port-month ; and early on Wednewiev merourg,
Maadougal Lad at disposal, independent of the Hubinger,
four steam-vessels of a smetl dr.mtet ot water,
capable of Cocveying at one trip th. members of
both houses and cm rylody cont. wed with than, end
patties them on board tie large vi earl,. Th- Pscha ct
ffic pt.'s yacht was net at his duple& by the C n pail to
whom it belongs; be had also toe Maine, the W.dgenn,
end the Monkey, seclusive of the Harmuger. Captain
Meadoegal was at the Admiralty oa Monday morning;
Captain Millie hid written down those arreneennioni, and
went through the whole of the details with him. I saw him
myself, end told him that we di p-uded on bun for putting
the houses on board. Captain Macdonald, of the Pi roe-
veranee, was in town on Monday morning. Captain Miles
saw him, and explained to him what was to be dor e. I saw
him myself, and pointed out the enure which the vessels
were to pursue—the stages they were to take—where the
review wag to take place; and 1 t ointed out to him on the
map where ha was to go, end at what time. Neither Cap-
tain Maedougel nor Calitain M-c ezoreee.d the
slightest doubt°, their being able to cam out tt ow) orange-
meets always provided that the train (and t its was an
essential condition) should arrive at or stout the time
promised by the railway c an/req. (Heir, best.) Ac-
cording to their calculation, half or three quarters of an
hair would be necessary for cony. y ng the pawing TO on
board the 1 rge vestals oy the tender" ; hut we ell wed so
hour for tbis purpose. (Hear, hear.) However, we had a
right to e.lculate that they would • c on hoard the large
vessels by 10 o'clock ; even had they teen oo h. and by hair-
past 10, they would hove been in ample time to see the whole
of the review. Whet they wire Ott ceiard the large rein-de
they were at pre cis •ly the same distane from the wee: end
of the lice as Portsmouth is. Toe Queen bad to traverse
eight miles from Gosport before she gut to the west end of
the line; and vessels had only eight miles trout South-
ensteon. The course prescribed was for the Transit ai d
Pen, veranee to go to 'he west end of tie line, to pes be-
tween the lines to the other end, and then eviler to on any-
where ti ey pleased, or to welt the e tilt tee Cliieen -iv-d,
Jed then take up their rheas as near to the Qoeue'a yacht
as they could consisten ly with the cafe; iif the smiler
Testae near them, in order that th. y might have
the bast view of the gun-busts. They wire then to
follow the royal yacht round the pivot-shire, then
to r tare, and to pass the fi at hg batten. a on ti, it way
back to Southampton. By this means they w could Lava seen
all that the (lett n etw, the Duly dill r nCe hai g the• ebe
paved the Aiming batteries in the first inetaiiee But if
they could not arrive at the west yid of the lase hr f ve the
Queen arrived, then they were not to atter') to I a s ti twe en
toe lines; because, as aeon as the Queen paced, tee gun-
b eats were ordered to get under way ; and it cat duly w
not have been tate for these large weasels to papa he wan
the columns at that time. Hon. gentlemen will see that to
perform the same dicta ce to the wept end of the lie tatty
ought to have bad an hour's etert of tit Queen ; but earn
halt-an hour would here given them ample sine to do wilt
I h.ve described. These were the order. given; and I
really cannot me bow the general ,lan cold be im row d,
or whet orders wire nem may more than were gives. At
II e'eloek em *midi* eight, c.plan Mae met me al the
Admiralty. We looked over all the orders to see if any-
thing had been omitted • and we did n t see that any
other could be given beyond thee* that bad been gives.
Bet to provide metric the possibility i f any anat., c i.ry
order* Mir g issued at Portsmouth, I went don my •ea et
seven o'cloaa on Tuesday to see the admiral of the ptetion,
there being some doubt entertained there of the presi Salty
of the v Is for the two hou es pasting between the llose.
I saw the admiral, mid I wrote down with my own rand
w at our orders and whet our intretinns were in th't re-
ap. et. He seat the orders to Captain blacd•itig..l et Scot. -
metals that afternoon. Beyond that, we webt out to the
fleet to see that they were in proper matey I sent fur Com-
m older Grayson on board, to ask him if triers ca. any
ainieuliy in the passage down Com 8 iutt ampton ; and he
told me that there was no difficulty whatever in rho Transit
and P nee cootie g down at ten o'cack in the int ea-
tog—ti at there were tour veswer, excluding the !aerial e'r,
re aty to convey the numbers of to•ls hosiers in ore to p,
and to put them on hoard the larger vessels. To pit stet
any mistake, I sit down myself and we, tea peivu e
in addition to the order to Captain Maceougal, st him
that the vessiili containing the two %ousts ut w- re
t t ass down the line bolero the Queen, but the. their thong
so depended ea the time of their stertitig, that the point of
primary inuottanes wee the noting there off in time,—end
that I relied op a him to see that they were embark. d and
sin: off as soon as they strived by tie trail. Ti eta wire
the orders given and the errengemente made. Crier were
given to the tit et which I have taste I; tie y were enf aced
by pews letters, cap sluing them in grater detail; we
saw m it of the parties personally, and eze.ained ti them
what was to be done; and I declare now, upon he king
back, that I really do not see what order ci tale pave be. n
Matted by the Admiralty wh ch was not lista d,—what let-
ters could have been written wtiob w. r, no: ern, tea,—
what pains could have been taken more tl au we re t ken,
to ensure the arrangements being carried our, so far a. they
depeadet upon us. (Hear, hear) And Brry, 'nowt,
ens eiled as I am at the tomtit, I reedy c.nnot
charge myself or soy member if tin boor of
admiralty with heyiug o mitt- d 'Ling in tt e
way of foresight, on this great o.ca.ii n, in order to
ensure the arrangements being carried out. (hear, hear.)
Of course, I shall be esker% wren were tees, vessels ? hew
did ell this recur ? (Hear, hear) I cannot be certain, but
I will state to the house fairly and at once who' my truer. '-
aloe s; en] pattern it will be more satisfactory if I read to
the house en mama from a letter wh ci. I received this a ora-
iog fronts person perfecily unknown to me,whe . sea pa-s, ro-
ger is, the train fur toe Himalaya ; sod his esti laiietion of
wnat to :le place is—l will not say geoid .ctory—but as .leer
as can be given. He says he c‘caa doers in C e train which
lea London a little after six o'clock, the earliest of the are-
Mal trains which proceeded to Southampton. He share that
sonse•hare on chair way they were delay d by an ordinary
train—he cells it a slow train. ("Perliamentery." and
laughter) They win this delayed for a very coral& rattle
time. It was necessary to get the stow train out e f the way
by shunting it; and ultimately the train coneevieg the par-
seepers to embark in the Himalaya arrived very late at its
destination.
I have des.titrd the train which imeled the first epeeist train In
tee sweat. When we were at length enabed t pa-cat, 1 termite
it took Ito own place on the main line again. and offered the ram,
im cdireett to th- following 'pedal train. as it hod uttered in the
that instance to our own. That wart call, d the breaking down id cm
engine. The engineer of that train simply del his duty in getting it
:reward how he c Add and an quickly as It- could. u hes tha corn-
pry for the Itimslaya apiece' at Southampton it ace wring
perhaps, threeteartba of an hour of the time hero for the emoarkm
Woof one or other of the Howes of Parli meat. How wan C. ewe
tiselougal to know that they would arrive at the tour appontol I
Up a spe.kfng to him, which Idi 4 twice in tit.. uret. f the
night upon the °select, hia reply aas—Tl e 11..u.te at leer or
the Commons were expecte i to wive at the time you sots.
ally reached the barricade, and 1 thought it eel riameabie
that they should have the preference of you. hut when I had wailed
a lot g time and roust the legidattat did nt t make their apt rat Noce,
and with an angry crowd of tooth men before • e, I could hap the
tenders Idle no tower, and sent Ile, 101 l to different obits. Woe
not that a very natural thing fur the go I int officer to do under Ina
eiteumetanoest Am to the *modem bet icicle. be me he WI o.,eimg
to do with it. Mo, then, it e. men to Ihut, tin ga.lant where we ten
in perfect ignorance of everytbing Vat bid tenured to dila) the
truss by the railway authorities, mai 1 oil others who c d have
en ightmed him wee pretested trona eppruiching the tier by a
wooden herricade, erected by the ,outhotmetn authorities, no duebt
from the best modem. Had the drat maxi .1 train sept its tine, no
doubt the four tenders wou.d have been at the tlii.p.ral of the com-
pany. They would have been enrb ol w rotors to time for tie nue..
ceasing realm, and every dung mud hoer been to weer. 1 Mire
now stated to you Mod). obesrsateoua and again thanking yemim.
Ibi hove that is tee real tap. n of west took e.
Captain McDougall did not like to put *hoes arrived
by tee first train on treed ; expecting, as be did, Vie snivel
• f the meatiest i f both horses of perliament At last,
, lading they did not come, and hearing tee compleir ts et
Mims who tad arrived by tee earner train, he did that
p it would hive been better had it been done
dm first instance—sent efi the tender with Viol. who had
Idea kept waiting—end the consequence was, that the
header tad act time to get back, when the train C3tivt yir g
the members of the two houses arrived. The arcane, mettle
wheels we etas broke do en in eansequeees of the nen-
arrimil of the train, which we did sot anticipete. I
believe no one is the house is more sorry Cr
the disappointment which has reclined than myself. (Hear )
We were most anxious that all should see lb) it visa, in
the most advaatageoue meaner, and if we failed, I believe
the NM* arose from attempting to give mere semen-
asOlate'n to the public than was ever done before. I cant ot
roomer for the exact number of Celesta issued, hot we made
provision for the members of both houses of Pail a teat,
' for the officers of the army, and the officers on half lay,
the Othc.le of the Admiralty and dickyuds ; in all we