The Express.
London, England, 1849-05-22 00:00:00

After • few Rafe halt MT. BOWMAN,
Cal Dimwit withdrew his amendment.
The chum was agreed to, as were classes 2,3, 4, and 8.
Oa dame 8, it Wag proposed to up the blank with
OWL, the ealary el the Chief Conssaiselower,
w lfrhich. HENLEY put a caution ea the lulled, in reply to
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said it wee Wended to
give a Balmy of 3,000 i. a year to the chid eemadmiewer,
sad 2,000 L to each of the other ammabriesere.
In answer to lb. Gaootre,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL stated that it was ant
=laureate any dim for the parpoes of valastica

The dame was then agreed to, as were classes 7,8, and 9.
On claim 10, respective; the rules to be Blade by the oom-
tteissloa•rs being approved of by the Privy Canned,
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Col. DUNNE moved that tie Court of Chancery be sub-
Mislaid for the Privy Cerascil.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL defended the clause, ob.
serving that power was gives to alter the rules from timel to
time, as the commkskinen should thick right.
The amendment was then negatived, and the clause was
agreed to, as were clauses 11, 12, 13, and 14.
On clause 16,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL stated, is answer to Mr.
BADLIII, that it was thought necosary that be commie-
shiners should have the assistance of counsel, and heaps they
were Weeded with the powers of a court of equity.
Oa clause 16,
Kr. SADLEIR sold be did not think it would be pos.
▪ W effect salve wader this commiesion exempt in large
Week, and to joint-stock ooinpanies.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Why ?
Mr. SADLEIR said one reams was the large miss of the
sums, of itself sufficient to prevent individuals of moderate
fens from investing their capital in land. Then the drain-
zserrations, as now carried on, affected mere than one
sad would cause the parties desiriog to purchase to
to It: state of the serroundie: lands, He was
Salim also to introduce a clause glass life•tenants the
Fewer of selling a postioa of the estate, to pay debts secured
the InheriMmith There were other interests in Ireland,
them far muss ei SI er 40 years, which ought also to have
the knelt et far ammiesion.
Eba SOMMEOII-01114ERAL s
and feared
the clause
Pesommd by tile Ma. gentleman, and feared it woe Medals-
bible ; for It wendil lame this effect. that any person might
create an kistmebrame es his estate, and get it sold by the
emsembeinne ens ma it almost without incurnbrance. This
wail emit deer to get hand, as it might be done by par-
ties beaky eldeetive
Sir A. BROOKE inquired if this bill would give any
power to landowner to sell and discharge their Mama
still reserving the sights over their estates whichrl=
secured to those coming under the commission?
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said It was not content-
plated to make any alteration in the law as it Ansel in this
respect. The next clause, the 17th, clearly Wised what wee
being subject to any incumbrance."
The clause was then agreed to, as were clauses 17 sad 18.
On the neat clause, giving power to the commissioners to
proceed to a sale as the application of any iseumbranoer,
Mr. TURNER moved a proviso to the effect that no order
oink, should be made on the application of any owner or
ineambrancer the value of whose interest was net equal to
the amount of the irmumbranee; nor unless the whole of the
incumbnaces amounted to two-thirds the value of the
estate.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL hoped this suggestion
would sot be adopted, as it would involve the necessity of a
previous inqu'ry am to the respective values of the estate emit
the iacumbrancet, which, in the depressed state of landed
property in Ireland, wee perhaps now not worth more than
half its amount when the mortgages were effected. The
necessary Mlllt would be to prevent sales in a great sew
cases. It would bathe duty cribs oommimiesers to look some-
thing beyond the technical law in these oases, and to regard
what might be morally due ; hence they ought to bate a
very large diemetion.
Mr. GROGAN suglested that estates ineurabered to the
extent of " one-halt,' should be substituted for " two-
thirds."
Mr. TURNER having stetted to the alteration sug-
gested, the committee divided on the amended preposition—
Fir the amendment 9
Maisie it 66 —67

The clause was thee agreed to.
Clause 20 was agreed to.
Oa clause 21 being proposed—
Mr. S. MARTIN said he wished to know how his hon.
and harped friend meant to deal with the ewe of leases
created af.er the incumbrance when the estate was not
sufficient to meet all the demands upon it. In that case the
ineuiabrance would over-ride the tenancies on lease created
subsequent to it. That would be a great hardship in the
ease et bookifids tenants. What he should therefore propose
would be this, that power should be given to ascertain
whether the lands were let at a (Air rent, and upon proper
hams, and upon its being ascertained that this was the case
that the tenant should be protected mama the subsequent
—seer.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that such was the
object of the clause, but if that meaning was not clear
enough frees the words as they stood, he would undertake to
introduce others which would make ft plainer. (Hear.)
Akre a few words from Me. BADLIIII and CoL Donna
the clause •as agreed to, as was also clause' 2.
Clauses 23 to 37 inclusive win ,greed to.
Oa clause 38 being proposed,
Mr. MONSELL thought the bill would fall to be effectual
for its object if this clause restarted in Its poi sent form. la
his opinion, the parties should be compelled to come before
the canminioners, aid the powers of the Court of Chan-
cery in the ease of bankrupt estates should be suspended.
The SOLICITOR GENERAL observed that the capes-
lion of the hon. gentleman was Incesegent with the object
of the bill, which was to have a compulsory sale only is case
the parties interested were desirous of it.
After some discussion, in which Mr. SADLBIR, Colonel
Dorms. and Mr. Tong= took port,
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL intimated that he would
iatecduce some verbal amendments.
The clause was, on this understanding, agreed to.
Clause 30 was also agreed to.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he had introduced a
clause permitting partition in certain eases, but he could not
thick of making it general. He tbnught the power should
be strictly cosfined to encumbered estates. At a future day
a specific measure might be introduced relative to partition.
Mr. SADLEIR thought it mortifying that all the Im-
provements in legislation were to be appropriated by the
extravagant ineumbrancen of these estates. It was hard
that this power of partition should be denied to the resident
and solvent proprietor.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said he would reconsider
the subject.
The clause was thou agreed to, as were 41, 42, and 43.
Clause 44 was, after a sheet discussion, agreed to.
Clause 45 end the remaining clauses were agreed to, and
the bill was ordered to be reported on Thursday neat.
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS BILL.
The above bill was postponed to Monday, 11th Jane.
LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL.

The amendments to this bill, of which soda had been
given, were takes into oonsideration.
Mr. MILLINGS moved the ineartien of the following
elauese.
(A.) And with a view of prevent*, or lementid tbe evils of the
ryas to ro/birliefia, se well re the lea and feisty to w bolding
miler Undo& baying limited Intense, be it enacted. Met where the I
ire or tenancy of a teal held by • Issas at rack yiet, Mash deter.
nee by the death cr weer of the eine ef 'lay baited entitled far
W We, or for any other limited intereet, the Mem itell 'retinue to
bell and army the fams til the rands. ete the then current
Oa er oreand mama as tf art then quit uponun t
or tansy wen Mahe farms et his are= te
Meals of ti ether lawful mesas, drag the asearnemes eft%
hmlbstra mew, end the exceeding landlord it he NOW to
renew end mesh. d the Imam in the sem imam ai Ids pier.
ern mil love time 11_, a fair prepertfoa die mit fir the
meted whisk may have inn the day el Me dsetk or meow el
the Maimed mei gewbeemor Is the time of the great m eitm
sad re wisessike hmlleed end the mont esspesideelg rer4 ea be-
tween themelese end as egehm seeit ether, his anent Ie all the
Waft mil stikresam am be saltnet to the meniedent to which
the presedhur Mara dal sleek tenant seepeutesty mei* haws
bon emtned art seireet, la ere the are or Wow hal
Wool ar =mei spawn" di tad elidd= of ear esner yam
(a) OM be it met* SW ha ear the growime airs dam treat
day arm shells egad end sal W aq amid or other liar, by
*toe day welt et GM him or ether writ of eisailea, seek
crops shaft, so ire r the Mlle Jail remake Ira the firm, bellahle
to the rent wish mey warm and become dr to the ladierd after
any err Nelsen an arm sail to the remits by Menem amt other-
wise for reemory Men* mt, and that nereithebrlbg terra
end mate imignment math stay have been are or ezestded of
sea mops by an era *MS or other Miter.
Mr. PUSSY suggested the withdrawal of these clauses
end th it embodiment in a separate bill.
Colemel SI BTRORP was opposed to the bill both in prin.
Mple md detail. The bill was partial, delusive, and in
every way objectionable, and he was only astonished that it
should have been brought forward by an agricultural mem-
ber like the hon. member for Berkshire (Mr. Pussy). He
should rams that the report be postponed till that day sla
months.
The amendment was seconded, but wee afterwards with.
deems, Col. Sibthorp declining to divide.
Mr. MILLINGS then moved the insertion of the follow
big clause
That in ere the growing crone of the tenant of any brie re la
mixed sad mid by any sheriff or other officer, by virtue dreg "Mt
of art fats, er other writ of eaecution, Ptah crops Anal, ern limns
the same Am verde urn the fem, be liable to the Mg Vita.
may INIMI ad 1s doe to the landlord after any soda Indsore
end ean, Ned Ise tbe narrate by diem, sad otherwise be nearer,
of each rent, NA 11111 amtwithatesdlg env bargain and els re assign.
meat whir nworhar her mule re esseutat of such crepe by any
moth timelier other diem
Mr. PUSEY doubted whether the clause would not be
oposed to the title of the bill.
Kr. HENLEY considered it a
ft ne.emeary protection to the
landlord and to the tenant also, for itprevented third parties
Ikon coring between them, and therefore would often obtain
loathe tenant itaithedincise which he could not expect, if the
owe not so secured to the landlord.
clause was then agreed to—the bill ordered to be
iletand to be road a third time on nanday next.
haritable Trusts Bill was mad a mooed time and the
committee fixed for Friday next—the Solicitor-General then
to state the day when it would positively be brought forward.
The Pervengen Bill went through committee preforms,
and was ordered to be recommitted on Thursday neat.
RATE IN AID BILL.
The lad.' amendments to this bill were considered and
agreed to.
no how adjourned at 11 o'clmk.