The Express.
London, England, 1853-04-19 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING APRIL 19, 1853

by two horse., we Fropue 31. 10.. lust. :id or a mil-hewn of w some than 185,0101. D. sides these ertisles of find, :are endeavoured to keep close to the brides slea• *Ma I
(V. 121. For four.wheeieil curiae, a drewn by one Neese, in- which, including tea, member thirteen, there are 1.3 have been uffisrine remarks.
email of a mieinium of 4/, 15s. 01. we Propose 2/, For two Ratchet which
entailing
..proeose to set altogether free
(Loud cheers.)
wheeled carreges drown by me hereelitistead of a mini- front duty,
mum of 3/. 16.. dd., we propose 155. lf that reduct'un is of not Imo then 55 ii,'4lll",gwhiilie on 133 linmeneum thatiie eonfromus tomer
very low, it M fair to remember that a greet ',umber of pro;eise to reduce the *duty there will nuettuoareletiPiroutnif w-ro‘ etlo/ ; • (Chien.) Et jun toupee reason futuautie waivers eihs.
Intik iagel are now 'Amnia which will here deer be chargei.
itaiti,
et,imf,zine iii:4,k..t.t.lu:smaiiirailow e.nce as before for an:it:;:reese this The‘e are the proposal. which we proffer. Of
ey take the loss at 41,0001. Ihe effect
Thedu•y on private carriage., therefore, will be 3/. 10s.,we feel confident, that we hive not sough; to avoid (lit.
iicultiee. (Heine_ hear.) That our difficulties we have not
?1., and lew TOe duty on c t • gee far hire will remain et of this eh wire, however,
ire, will be a great simplification of
i 1.,• •asit es now ; hut this will be s mad mere explicitly iii our prevent eu•toms duties. At the time concealed either from ourselves or from Other, ;and that we
me tinie I mu me . have
the resolutions. Th tt e uty en horst s begins at a minimum siren's to draft the attentieu of the cowman e to' the fee: e nut attempted te counteract them by any natrow or
of It lle. 7Se and run. uo to a great variety of rates. What that the etfect of changinet ad valorem to rating il'
utsts, : plans which, it you shall adopt them,
we propose is that trade horses shoal be cheretd as they though it affords facilities for working, by no will go some way to
are now, and ail plllliei “f 10s. 6d., and that other horses duces the number or simplifies the cheteterS of oceans re- `wards cloaiug many vexed financial questions, which, uo-
shall be charged die. [A lion. Member: " Aerieultural - lifaliOlatl, as the reeolutiotis will thew when they 'wPeetr. I less
they
be now settled, may be attended with puLlic
horrors ?"] The lims member justly aska Me what we pio- ' hid upon the Wee, but perhaps before the wereyfin :Ile , inconvehienee, and even public danger in future ,
pose to Oo with Teemed to agricultural horses. We pr woo. to ! disported of, the house wilt moist the governmentY 111 deter- '
' years and under eLcumstaticts less favourable. (Cheers.)
let agriculittroll horses, a. they are now, he exempt. We think ' mining how these elllnfaicatvit descriptions con hegot lid 1 'That we have endeavoured in the plum we have submitted
we may be romp. Ido not Itkeezemptieno but it appears I of, or whether it will be better to adhere to the re,l rd• to the committee to make the paths of our suceessoie in
to me, I must char.., that the ease of aericultaral heroes . /wens duty. (blear.) The 5 !Let of t' s various e i future—not to make them any mere arduous, but more
o e. eiiing• a
easy. (Cheer.) I iney be permi'ted to nib', that while
is strietiy analogous to that of steam power in a mill. (Up- ,' iii the Leastwise duties. as n ' ibl • the year lord-A will •e.
position cleric.) the object is entirely the •ame. We Ibe to produce a pups less PtPo"the revenueeto uu ' • . see eve sou.tht to do jastiee 11l the changes we propose in
with ti do impartial justice Letween clue moil class. I have i les' Nous 1,33:4,0001., but which we trust will irlecuritidnUct-ol by" the tnzation to intelligence and skill, as compared with
unoloubtelly received many proposals to put • tee on steam I increased cotomm piton to trri 000!, T'hew * * " property ; end that while we hove ...ought to do justice to
atom th. re-
power. 1 need nut say they hove loon summarily die- , fine, of taxation which , genii , the Crest lehouriner c-immunity of linefeed, by former re-
we erepose as applicable to the yeary li • •
missed, awl I must say that i: would out be just to tax ',Sit will he ing them nom indirect texation, we have net been
one description of power while another a exempt. Excise—Gress lees EMI,OOO ended in the e Mal nb y a desire to favour one chess or ella-
ther ; but we have left that we should be best maintaining
We propose to useke a modificati .a in the duty on cl,,gs. Net loss
At present there are two rates of duty, and great difficulty Stemps—U roes lees
is experienced in collecting it. Our is 14, , and the othe r Net less
Si. One meets the cue of the aericulturists, white the Post-hootee—Oross aud Oct Limes
other relates to that it the connoisseur, but conthser able Customs—Gems loss
difficulty is expo eieneed in elecielio g between the two, and Net lose
we therefore propom to unite them, melting the tax a Uni- and benefits if we can, with an equal and impartial remit—
tent' one of 12s. The imateiliete effect et them chromes 1 sheiwtag a retaiseinse of telatien for the present year of Where) —and we hive the conoiletien of believine that hy
will be aloes to the revenue of—Oerveete, 87,u00/ ; privets, 2,563,00e1. Thu Wm to be incurred by the revenue, utter proposels like them we shall contriliwe as tar as in us F. s.
carriages, 9 lotted.; Monies, lleetieit ; dogs, 10,00. g ; ailowlust fur the bartered consumption which the
making the first MAP to the revenue Irons alkeeldell taxes will create, will amount to I,6:ei Wed. un the presort. year's country, tut likewise to knit the I reek of
amount to 2M1,0001. ; but as in the aim of swaps, PO with iiwome. (Cheers ) '
f hooter., the state of the neCOUllt fur this great maim yet snore closely to that throne mid the se
the cape Of assessed teaes, we hope the first loss will the years Isiele-185i shows a surplus to 805,000/, but if you inesitntions under which it in their happiness to live. (-nue
be materially reduced. TIM Ileum must be prepared— gotta us the amens of raistue New texas, which L 114,e pro' right hon. eendent in, who h set ',token for upwards of four
it they want the 'Asepses' taxes tio be ieformeil—to poeed, ansuuntaug to 1,341.0001, the fund avail- hours and three quarters, then resumed his sent, amidst
support tLe gevei anima iu adopting mefied duties* upon aisle for reducing oppressive burdens, will ~,,, leuil mid lens; continued cheering.)
*radio that are new eutirely exempt. trout taxoetien. We 2,119,000/. We propose to take advantage at mot The rersolutions having heen read by Mr. Bette nem,
propose likewisr to c: -ssz,e a .y.e,,,,n ohich, though it d.oes of clintifss. which will entail a loss to the Mr. DISRAELI begged to inquire what slay the right
not totting to arouse.' taxes, is yet somewhat analegnus to revenue ot 1.6.360ki1e/. &toil there will then remain a sar- loot. gentleman propeocil to fix to take the diseuesion umni
is, neinety, that of tile post-herse tax. We fel that the plus of 493,00 W., which' will include the sum of 200,4001. them?
case of the poetonaster. his been hard, and likewise the', while I have mentioned es cowing into the exchequer Iron, *lite CHANCELLOR ef the EXCHEQUER—I propiee
it is a most injurious principle to allow the tax tope eel- a source which canonise considered as permateent. tutuu.s.) to lay the whole resolutims upon the tabor, and to take tl-e
levet" ander the plan lit depositing tickets eta turnpike. I think the cemmittee will be of Opinion that it would nut iliscumion upon them nu Monday night. I may 'soy that I
In the metropelis mail miter Woe towns the prin- be prudent, tspeeiaily if we have it in centempletion to propose to take the enemata tax resolution first, the legai y
cip4 traffic of the postmaster is to railwey eta- deal with other matters of tasation, to proceed with a sure sduty next, aud the spirit duties third. That will be Ithe
tiers, where the re are no turniiikee at all; and Plus nano ser than thst. (Hoar, hear.) Sir, I have sail a alestautial oreer of proceeding.
eltegether the tel is a very difiicent one to collect thief but intrortent duty to discharge: it is to Mr. HUME could not pretend to express any opinion upon
indeed wader the present system. We propue therefore to redeem the pledge wl.ielu I gave at the ,Ousel sir extensive a propotition. Ile rejoiced to see that the min-
eilept the plan suggested by the pc...tweeters themselves. to the effect that 1 wouid chow the t.,,,,,, eiple of tree trade was so fully carried our, but he regretted to
They 110 nut ask e o much fur a reducti.on of the tax as an mittee that we were not trifling with them nor with the hear the right hon. gentlemen's proposition with retard
entire change in the mode of imposMg the duty. They peeple of England etieut the niconte tux, em we said ws• to the income tax. The finenecs of the country would never
propue that the tix to lie taken trout them seal' tie levied erotism-4 to piece the house iu u erudition to remit it et he put on a ,atislaeteiy loolisg unless a ) I'ololly tax num
in the form ufa iicenee, to he regulated aceordieg to the some lutuie day. The matins we are reedy to /11iVallet- Illalle a permanent theme of duty. Had it been properly
number of horses which each travels in the course if a now, if the committee pleases, but I ceu assure them thet managed it might have been merle to rdwe deist or ten mil-
year ; and we propme that 511. thail be the total amount, our calculations, though Lot quite so elute accurate, oi lions. It was vain to talk of the difficulties of the question
which we expect will ;outlet:o 160,0001. Another &emote minute 05 it they :applied to tee present moment, are yet when it was carried out with suen euecess in other cone-
we are ablaut to make is this. We arc 'lisp-tool to ere etc such as can be applied with islety to the future. They are tries. Heel the right hon. gentleman made the property
facileies tor the redentlition of the pawl-tax. Umber sate and secure celeulatieta, bat, tire of all, let me present tax perpetu it he woull arch had ample means of carry am
the present provisiees made for that purpose, you with the balance sheet which I have given inc 1b.33- "tit all his free trade measures.
being li.,suewh,t stringent in its eh :macho, it is 1651. lu this balence. sheet we tied a sue. lus of In answer to Mr. FttENVEN, who asked for further ex•
very little made use of, nutwe propose to r,_ hail a million, a cuneiderab.e portion of se Inch 'does no planation as to the proposal about the land tax,
duce the 10 per ce •nt motes to IS per cent. less than the flow Irma a permanent source. In 18.e1-55, condition:. of the - The CHANCELLOR EXCHEQUER said that
seine amount of stuck on hand. With regard to the as- with the new coerces of revenue that will be created, we the present course was to transfer to the commissioners fur
ses,ed taxes, the committee should he aware that any shah have succeeded in saviug from remission of duty—on the iiational di
et as much stock as would produce an annul
ch tngc that may he made with refer. ore to them cannot tea, .110,01X11.; post horse., 27,04M1.; Stamps, 310,000/. ; ,1j,,,,;,,,,t on that amount of laud tax and 10 per cent more.
tonne tato operation dui ing the present near, because our assessed taxes, 240,000/. ; celenitil postage, 40,0001,—waking What lie proposed was, instead of being hound * give
mole of proceeding will he this—We shell invite Nth o a total tit 1,037,1100/. Oa the other side, there oil, te an much stock as would produce the amount of thetolael as
n •tax
ment to pass as act alteting the lanlenkefl talks, whirl, weasel additional income, Aceurdiug to our calculation, of 700,001)1. and 10 per cent. more, the begin • • . y shoo d by giving as much
take effect twin end alter the sth of April ni at, and the tax Ola the legacy duty, and a seeing trout the Iltree.audoi- seek aswouldproduce' - LI per cent. less. (Hear, hear.)
for the years 1851-5.5 will be levied upset ell articles whirl, Quarter per Cents., which, according to the. usual principle. •
Mr. E. B.OLL Addressed himself ts that portion of the
hare been kept since the 10th of October, 18.)3—not since of computation, a half will be taken credit tor on the :cheme whielt dealt with the hind tax, and contended that
the sth of April, 15.33. The loss to the revenue reckoning of that year, will add a PUI/1 of 31e,000/. it would nut rifferd the benefit promised.
from the commutation of taxes will only be 31,000 e The oecond moiety of the extension of the income tax would
—oamcle, the pat-horse duty, which will c one into effect add 23-5,0001. and adding Oleo: thous together you will find Mr. MACOU I ltie odd there was no newspaper in Dub.
for only 'half the present year. Sir, I have still another int- that the additional charge propused to he inclined lei pin which publiehed a supplement, and he believed no
portant branch et taxation to mention. I come how to the 1831-3 is, 1,07,00 W. ; ahem the additionul income yea are !leper but the Tones that did so regularly.
important censideratiou of the Customs duties. No plan Kuhn/ to provide will be 1,217,000., which would yield a The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said they
low store attracted the attention, or excited the anxiety, profit teat would entirely juetity the house in giving its expeetel that a greet many wipers would publish supple-
teen this ; !Welkin: they feel thee since the elasticity of the a-scot to the whide remissiou. (Hear, hear.) It is right ments under the altered scale of duty.
country has been most is desfacturily deveioped, they ran, if however that the committee ehuula keep clearly in stew Mr. COBDEN asked whether it was meant to remit the
the committee will support them, make consillereble reterms the hurl extent of this reuiessiou of indirect taxation. It duty on all supplements, or only on supplements filled with
in our tariff, by reileving many articles iiltisgether from will be as fullews:—Soap duty, 1,126,000/. ; the various advertisements.
Customs duties, in some eases, and reducing them. But heads of sum. duties, 41to1hsti/.; assessed taxes, 293,0001 ; The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was under-
-1 must first mention an article of great itneortance, topes Mist hones, 51,004.; toad, so tar as the Board of Isilaust *paid to say that n i did
erenee would be made in this re-
which 1 situ eery to al we can ineke no change. It is the Revenue i* concerned, I,S-B,ouol In the Creitoins, the tee sheet. The supplement would be looked upon as part of
article of wine. (Hear, hear.) 1 r rt.er to this, of pcculisr duties will amount to no less titan 3,064,000/. as measured the paper, and would 1 consequent ygo free by pest.
susceptibility out ul dooms ; and it is most desirable, both by the revenue which we received hat year at the present Mr. • • •
COBDEN said the right hon. gentleman could not
for this house and the government, that the country should rate of duty. I will next take the different articles of Omit, b,, • rent of the feet that there was but isle newspape
know why I entertain the opinion that n i change car be sueli as butter, cheese, mid the like. They will yield 'Ft."' - r in
the kingdom which putilished a supplement full of ether-
made. There would be three courses open to us with re. 216,001., and various minor articles 120,0001., making a thicmen"'
gird to the wino duty. Use of them would by to reduce cued relict under the heed of Customs 3,466,00/., and we
the duty to a uniform duty of Is. Gd. or 2..64. a gallon But must add a small sum for colonial postage, and the Mr. HUME asked if the government hail taken into
you caunot do that wilesa you arc prepered to make a sacrifice eetire amount uf remission of indirect taxation to which considerettea the, absurdity
our surility of allowing a ship built et
of revenue ansouutine to at least 700,0004., besides enemies her Majesty's goverinuent invite the committee to assent, foreign timber to enter mots duty free, while timber h r
ti.e purposes of ship-building could out be brought hi with-
tering the difficult. question at drawback upon stocks in will then appear to be 5.381,000/. (Great cheering.) With
„tit a heavy duty.
hand. (Hear, hear.) Perhaps. with respect to this latter that remission of indirect taxetien we propose to combine '
difficulty the government could get over it by proposing a the bringing about ut a state of thine' giving you a renewal .
fhe CHANCELLOR of the EX.CHEQUER was sorry
stringent resolution, which the home might be disposed to prospect of a state of things its which you can really part to say that it wee his want of means, mod not his wino of
adopt, but whether that be so or Lot, the 10,s to the with the income tax. (Rear, hear.) Looking beck at the will, which obliged him to omit the timber duties. (Hear.)
revenue of 700,0001., coupled with the fact that there are remissions which we have made of late years in lathe, et The resolution was then agreed to, and the house lo-
ather imposts of a more pressing character, renders it ne- taxation, which began in 1842 and were renewed on a slimed.
oessary that we should net deal with it now. Another larger scale in 1815 and 1816, we shall find that in a term COUNTY OF HEREFORD ELECTION PETITION.
plan to be proposed would lie to fix the duty at several 01 years, probably in some c ism of eleven, and in some five The SPEAKER. intorineJ the house that he bad re-
lates, accordiug to the value of the wino, in the same way or six, but let ue say in a mean term of seven or eight years, ceived a communicetion etating that it was not intended to
that duties are now charged upen different qualities id those remisaions completely recovered themselves. (Cheers.) proceed with this petition.
auger; but this is a system which has been attended with I think that the committee' wail uutlersteag that the effect SOUTH-SEA AND OTHER ANNUITIES CO \MU-
treat difficulty with regard to sugar, but it would be at- of remissions is twofold. It in, first, to increase the power TATION BILL.
tended with much greater difficulty in the case of wine, of consuming the per•ieular article, and in that way psr- After a fee words from Mr. J. B. SMITH and Mr. Ilt me,
The revecue department would experience the greatest tially to repair the loss; but it is, secondly, to increase the in opposition to some portions of this bill, the hill was reed
difficulty in working ouch a system, us it would be exceed- general consumption, to extend end invigorete the trade a second tune and ordered to be committed on Thurelev.
[ugly complex in its operation ; and I must say, that how- of the country; and in that way, causing a larger consume- SHERIFF AND COMMISSARY COURTS (BER-
ever distasteful it may be at present, we can tremolo no don amongst the great body of the people, tends in a still WICKSHIIIE) BILL.
alteration iu the existing duties, our can I hold out any inore powerful manner to replace the deficiency. (Cheers.) This bill was read a third time and passed.
early prospect of a Volume hereafter. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I The same thing which ha. already happened will happen
have uo doubt the committee have been anxiously expect- again, namely, that these remissions of indirect taxes CONIBINATION OF WORKMEN BILL.
Mg that 1 should refer to the great article of tea—(bear, 'which are analogous to the remissions you have heretofore Mr. H. DRUMMOND moved the third reading of
this
hear)—but I won't discuss the reasons fur reducing the tea made, will replace themselves in about the same time. hill.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL objected to the bill, on
duty, as they must be obvious to everyone. (Cheers.) That 'therefore we estimate that at the expiration of the income
is a question which I can Laity say has been settled by tax, the indirect taxes will be very much what they are the ground that it was altogether unnecessary. Its object,
'public opinion ; uud if we ere to have a large remission of now. (Cheers.) I don't enter into the question of what he understood, was to correct a misapprehension of the law
hy Mr. Justice Erle, at some case tried in Staordhire in
Customs duties, the article of tea ought not to be excluded remissions you might melee in the interval. It is enough
1811. He did not believe that any doubt existed as to
from it. (Hear, hear.) The government, however, accord fur us to provide fur thew which we call upon you now to
to the right hon. gentleman who preceded him in office consider, and to show that we should not endanger, but ell the state of the law, as declared by the Court of Queen's
Bench. lie, therefore, thought this bill wholly unne-
that it would be most unwise to make the reoluctiew to a tho contrary, that we should increase the stability of our
shilling at one single step. (Hear, hear.) That would be financial system. (Cheers.) Well, then, sir, how are we hesearY•
monstrous, because you have nat. the ',lightest hope that to give a rational:prospect of being enaoled to part with the Mr. DRUMMOND gave his ermine of the proceedings
such an increase ma the supply would take. place as income tax in 1800 ? I have no doubt that the country which had led to the proposal of this measure. lie was not
to indemnity the revenue for the loss it would will be incredulous upon that none (Laughter.) Enacted satisfied that the law was settled ; fur though Lord Camp-
sus!ain, or, perhaps what was more important, secure the in 1812, renewed in 184.5, renewed again in 1813, renewed hell had decided one way, another Lord Chief Justice
benefit of a reduction in price to the consumer. (Hear, again for 12 menthe in 1811, renewed amain for 12 months is
might come and decide another way. (Hear, hear.) The
hear.) Wh .t we propose then is, to take as the find step 18proposed
32, and again to be taken for three years bill could do no possible harm; it might prevent the impel-
the plan of the late ministry, Ora is, to reduce at once the in December 1852-1 have no doubt that the couutry has smonent of workmen, such as had taken place a short
duty from 2s. 211. a pasted to Is. 10d. The committee become incredulous as to its ever being given up. 1 may time ago.
Must be awaie that we have to con,ider the s'ate of our pros- even be told that we have no right to aim at a fictitious After a few words from Mr. Fousryn,
pests of a supply of tea from China, and certainly the in- popularity by pretending to show that the income tax msy Al r. HUDIE thought it was most important that if any
ternal condition of the Chinese Empire is by no means such be taken off. Lm the committee, however, form their own doubts exists d with regard to a measure which for 2.3 years
as to hold out it prospect of the increased supply that we judgment upon the figures I shall show. The income tax, back And produced so much good, they should be cleared
wield wish, ur would have a right to expect. We cannot es we have it now, is 6,550,0001. a year, but that will be iu, up. He therefore thought the bill ought to pass.
look for any luxe addition to uut tea markets, but, on the creased by the addition of 500,0001.; and the gross amount Mr. HADFIELD expressed a similar opinion.
other hand, we hope and believe, ;hat so far or it, therefore. if the committee shall adopt our proposal, The house then divided—
es the production of tea is concerned, the short will be 6,140,0001. 1 won't go into the details of the de- For the third reading
time of two years will be amply sufficient to put scending rates. I assume, that it goes on till 1860, and then Against
Us in possession of a large additiem to our supplies. (Hear, the matter will stand thus :in the first place there will be The bill was consequently lust.
hear.) We therefore propose to adopt the resolution of the additions to the pernomsne sources of taxation ; to the le. CUSTOMS REFORM.
late government in the first instance, and reduce the duty gaey duty, two millions ; spirits, 436,0001.; licenses, Mr. WILSON said that on Thursday next be would state
to Is. 10d. until 1834 ; then, from the sth of April Dia to 113,0001. ;making altogether, 2,549,0001. towards finding the views of the government on the subject of the reform of
the sth April 1855, to Is. 6d.; from the sth of April 1855 to the sum which will put parliament in a position to part the Customs.
the 6th Apnl 1836, to Is. Id.; and from April 18.36 tor- with the incorue tall:deo es e anticipate reductions of charge
LONDON AND EDINBURGH GAZETTES.
wards theoluty would be l,.—the whole time to be occupied which of course are just as effective as additions of positive
Mr. WILSON moved for and obtained leave to bring in
Is Westing the descent from 2s. 21c1. to Is., being something ue. First, we shall have the reduction of the Three•
a hill far the consolidation of the London and Edinburgh
Isle than three years. We think mad hope that such a space and-a• Quarter per Cents. on account of the meisure of my
Gazettes. When the consolidation was effected the cost at
of time will be sufficient, under favourable circantstancee right Min. friend the member fur the University of Cam-
which the London - :azette was now conducted would be
to bring in the supplies necessary to meet the increased de- bridge (Me. Goulburn) in 1844; and that will bring to our
sufficient for both. The Edinburgh Gazette now cost 1,200/.
mends that must arise; but we could not venture to recant- credit 624,0001. Then with respect to the national debt,
a year, and after the consolidation it would cost but '2001.,
inend to the house the adoption of any shorter period. The although 'should be the lest man to encourage extravagant
hustle must nut suppose that this is a change which can be expectations with regard to that, yet it must be recollected which in tots small matter would be a saving of 1,0001. a
effected without heavy less accruing to the revenue in the that by the application of surpluses by the falling in of an- year. (Hear.)
lest instance, for it will be seen that the amount of redue- 'mines, we are in a small way operating from year to year PUBLIC-HOUSES.
lion is enormous when you come to calculate the difference both upon the capital and upon the charge. (Hear, hear.) On the motion of Mr. W. Bnowe, tbe following select
between 2e. 21.1. and le, per pound. The loss which we I had that since 1842 we have reduced the rational debt, committee on public-houses, &c., was appointed:—Mr. W.
anticipate wit be as follows: First year, 366,0001.; second irrespective of great operations, by 68,0001. a year. We Brown, Mr. Fitzroy, the Earl of March, Sir 0. Grey, Mr.
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ditto, 510,0001. ; third ditto, 451,0 M.; fourth ditto, shall have the same thing still going on ; for I hope that C. illiers, Sir J. Pakington, hlr. Beckett, Mr. Barnard,
608,0001.—making a total of 1,931,0001.; but at the same the House of Commons,whatever may be the pressure of Sir 0. Goodman, Mr. Gregeom Lord P. Stuart, Mr. Forster,
time we trust and believe the loss will be rapidly and circumstances, and whoever may hold the reins of govern-
Mr. Parke, Lord E. Bruce, Mr. Denies.
steadily diminished. ln proceeding to look more generally went, will always think it one of their most impoitaut Thu house then, at a quarter-put 11, adjourned.
into the state of the tariff, we base been desirous of afford- duties--nay, their very first duty—to maintain the public
lag you the benefit of something like a thorough as well services with credit and honour to the country. (Cheers.)
as a new revision, and to ripply to it as our I assume, then, that we shall have the some fund of retitle-
means will permit, one general rule. First of lion of charge on the debt thst we have had heretofore.
all we have tried to abolish unproductive duties That sum of 80.0001. a year appplied for the eight
except in cases where there are special reasons for its retell- years between 1853 and 1861 will give a sum of 643,0001.,
lion on account of there being a oennection or relation be- and perhaps I ought to explain that I take the year 1861,
twecn the article taxed and some other article that is pro- because it is the TM when the difficulties of the revenue
duetive. Where we cannot wholly abolish we have re- will be felt ; became in the financial year 1860.1 you would
vised, while we have endeavoured to fix the duties iu such have the entire enoiety of the income tax in arrear, which
a way as to be easily ascertained, as they do not reach would come in.sto credit although the tax itself had ceased.
higher than 10 per cent. upon the articles taxes!. There is, Well, these 'items of reduction' of charge, it is reason•
however, an article of 13 per cent. about which the govern- able to meths., will raise the sum to he created by the new
sent have not thought it right to propose any change. I , means of ta'eation from 2,159,000/. to 3,813,000/. Then, in
allude to the article of silk, with respect to which the go- ' the year Ile e9-GO, there comes the falling in of that heavy
vernmeat do not think there are such strong claims to a re- burden the Long Annuities, and a large portion of the ter-
eluetien as in the instance of other arheles which enter minable Annuities, which will operate to the relief of the
largely into consumption, and which have secured countri to no less than 2,146,0001. a year. (Hear, hear.)
the attention of the government on the ground of great uti. If yoe. add that sum to the 3,513,000/. which I have already
lity to the majority of the community. The government state/1, you will find that between the additional resources
have also been actuated in the proposals they make to adopt of,' our taxation, the reduction of the charge that will accrue
a ',pacts' of rating in preference to nut r gluten duties; while in the interval, and the falling in of the Long Annu ties,
they have at the same time endeavoured as much as possible Caere will be an available increase in the means el
to get rid of the 5 per cent. cu-tents duty which was eats- parliament, if the plans of her Majesty's govern-
blithed in 1810, and which besiel, s raising the duties, hat I meat shall he adopted, amounting to no less than
greatly complicated the transactions. We propose in a I 6,959,0901., against the 6,140,000/. of income which
great many instances while there is one per cent. differ en- lit its total amount. (Loud cheers.) Thus sir, if the
teal duty in favour of the British poaseesions, to sick this 1 committee have followed me they will understand that we
preferential duty altogether by allowing the fr reign • stand upon the principle that the income tax ought to be
article to come in on a level with the er denial. marked as a temperary measure; and that the public feel-
MELANCHOLY OCCURRENCE AT SEA.7-.P.mong
We have been most desirous to lower the duties wheels press log that relief ought to be given to intelligence and skill as
upon various articles of food that enter largely, if not into compared with property, eight to be met, and may be met, the passengers by the South Western Companr 's steamer
e e
am, ton
the necessaries, yet, at any rate, into the comf'or't of the without breaking up in the very mnde of reconstructing the Wonder, which arrived a few days since at ii.eite
people—(cheers)--etid, in application of this rule, we pros income tax; we agree that its operation ought to be noti-
front Homo, were twenty.one Lembards, e ,ho have left
pose to reduce the duty mtu mom a nuher of Articles which gated by every rational and practicable means compatible their country to emigrate to Australia. 'they belong to
ina,' he treated as artickm of food, such as those which I with its integrity ; and we tweet no less at the term of its l the mechanic cud artisan class. A digs res. jep event lum-
I
ehull presently mums:tete. We purpose, in fact,- to reduce existence that as it was in its first enactment, these remis-
petted on board the Wonder on her PP ,sage to Solothamp
the present duty tome almonds to 2s. al a cwt. ; upon Mons of indirect taxation which have on greatly redounded ! ton. A lady. passenger is supposed Ic ueeg jumped
boarin mid-channel with the in..ention tit committing
over-
cheese, from If. to 2P. Gd. a cwt.; upon cocoa, from 2d. to to the profit of this country have set an admirable example
Id. a lb. ; nPflh Hors, from 2s. to Is. a bushel; upen egos, —an example which has in route quarters already been fol. 1 suicide. She was seen by the. mien at the wheel, who Oa-
ten's' 103, to '4d. a hui.dred ; upon oranges and lowed—to the other parts of the werld. (Cheers.) These . meetly gave an alarm. The eecumer was stopped and a
lemon*, from a high rate of duty to Sd. a bushel ; are the principles upon which we ',um]. It you assent to I heat Inlet-nil, and, mutter nearly ten minutes bad elapsed,
noon butter trim 10s. to 4S. a cwt., end upon revisit:le like- our prownitions, you will he able be the moderate addition I during which time the unfe
otunete lady floated on the sur-
wt..: an important article of domestic use, from 15.. to of 2,500,00/. in all, to mike the great reduc-
-1 face i f the sea through te,e lightness of her drew, she was
atone 10., seer cwt. Tillfle ;Wicks at m picked up apparently ihead. Whets the host reached her
onied produce the 'ions which I have desestbed in the present year, .
revenue Z/1,0001., and the immediate relief tI be greeted oy and you will put parliameot in slash eireusestances that in 1 bead was und• r water. Every mono were used on board
tucking these reductions upon the seine qu entities that pro- 1869 it will be in a position, if it should think fir, to putt to restore animeeion, and which proved successful, Tee
dUced that sum, would be no less thaw' 02,0001.; but, with with the income tax. (Cheers,) Sir, lam afraid to look I lady's husband slid another re lathe wets. on board. The
the allowance which we think mac be made for an im,ne- at that clock—(low( cheers)—wnich painfully roniuds me moive for the dreadful act was not 'mown.
diate increase in the coniumptiem of these article, pros how long I have trespassed upon the time of this corn- I THE JOUINEV)tEN CARI.KNTERS Ols WINCHESTER
bably the net loss chargeable to revenue will not amount mittce. ((--heers ) All that I can say in apology is that I 1 are claim:ll from their mute's au advance of wages.

Ine Court.

The Duchess of Kent visited the Queen yesterday
at Buckingham Palace.
Prinec Albert, accompanied by the Prince of Wales and
Prince Alfred, and attended by Lieut.-Col. F. H. Seymour
and Mr. Gibbs, went yesterday morning to the Royal Mint
on Tower-hill.

The Duchess of Kent, accompanied by the Princess
Adelaide of Hohenlohe, went yesterday to Claremont, and
visited the Countess de Neuilly and the French royal '
family.
A deputation, consisting of the Mayor of Ipswich, Mr. J.
C. Culabold, M.P.', Mr. H. Adair, M.P.. Sir Edward
Gooch, Bart., M P., Messrs. Itodwell, Corder, Ross,
Burton, Bruit; and Gower, had an interview with the
Bight Hon. E. Cardwell yesterday at the Board of Trade.
Despatches were received yesterday at the Colonial-office
from the Governor-General of Canada, and also from the
Governor of Malta.
The Presidents of the College of Belfast and Galway had
an interview yesterday with the Earl of Clarendon at the
Foreign-office, Downing-street.

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LoNDOI#I, TUESDAY, APRIL 19.

AY last we have got the long looked-for financial
statement, and find—as might have been antici-
pated—the Coalition Ministry ofkr us a Budge..t, of
Coniptomises. As a whole its recep.ion by the House
of Commons last night was layout:dile, but in por-
tions it is clear that both House and country will
demand amendments before it can become law. Its
corner-stone is the Income Tax fur seven years cer-
tain, and so extended in scope as to include all
persons in receipt of 100/. a year. In hope of
making this bitter pill acceptable, we are uttered a
partial reduction in the pressure of the tax here
atter. Mr. GLADSTONE—to use his own words—
" invites us to submit to a renewal of the Income
Tax " for the next two years at sevenpenee in the
pound ; fur the following two years, at six-
pence ; and then for three years more at
tivepeitce. At the cud of this long seven years'
certain apprenticeship to sn unpopular and unre-
formed impost, he points to the date of April the eithr
1840, when he hopes that the progress of the country
may bare been such as to permit the Income tax to
expire. All who now pay the tax,—with the
addition of all those now earning 100/. a year
and less than 1,504,—are " invited" to join in
this step of fiscal self-sacrifice, in order that Mr.GLlD-
STONsfsischenies on other points may have fair play. On
the Income Tax he bases all his schemes and all his
hopes; but on an Income 'lax unreformed as regards
its pressure upon those whose incomes arise from
skill and intelligence. Mr. Gt. tnsmst: himself
spoke of the income of the active and industrious
and the income of the lazy, but devoted an enormous
portion of his very long see ech last night to
an attempted exposition of the utter impossibility
of equitably reforming the tax. We must have it as
it is—or not at all. lie gave, indeed, at once a history
and an elaborate culogium of the Income Tux. It
was that which helped us through the great war; it
was that which enabled us to secure our new and
successful commercial policy, to reform our fiscal
system, and by its help—it Parliament would vote
him an Income Tax for seven years certain—he (Mr.
GLADSTONE) would follow in the steps of Pm and
PELL, and refen in our system of taxation upon princi-
ples sure to be beneficial to the entire community. I e
would compromise between evil and good. lie
would have us submit to new taxation, thut old
taxes may be taken off. Some of the imposts now
suggested are quite in accordance with the
temper of the time and the equity of the
case. He would reform the legacy duty, making
all property derived from succession by death pay
to the Exchequer. Herein he adopts another
suggestioq of the honourable member tor Lambeth,
and would bring the landed class, who have hitherto
escaped the pressure of the legacy tax, within the
fair and just operation of the law. This pt °position
might be distasteful to the landlords, but then, to
sweeten it to them, he strives for their gratifica-
tion to slay the Income Tax reformers and upset the
case of adjustment by proving that such adjustment
already exists, since laud (according to Mr. GLAD-
STONE) now practically pays 011. in the pound,
whilst profeasnms nod trades pay but 7d. With one
hand he strives to appease the landowner ; with the
other he fights the battle of the fundholder; all the
while seeking to deprecate the wrath of the Finan-
cial Reformer by the proposed Legacy Tax on rate-
able property. lie would moreover extend the In-
come Tax to Iceland,—but here again compromise
re-appears. He would, iu return for such extension,
bribe Ireland with the four millions she owes
in shape of Consolidated Annuities. It is fair to the
English taxpayer that Ireland should pay Income Tax ;
but it is unfair that the four millions borrowed from
the pockets of the English, and from the solvent por-
tion of the Irish, taxpayers should be thrown up.
On the other hand, the Irish gain by this no posi-
tive ready-money benefit. They are, it is
true, to get rid of more than four mil-
lions of debt, but the Income Tax will at once
take more out of their pockets than the non-pay-
ment of the Consolidated Annuity money will keep
iu them. It is in fact troubling Ireland for a little
additional ready money, giving as a bribe for compli-
ance with a just demand four millions of what is
vastly like a bad debt. What Irelaud will say to
this bargain has to be seen. She is better able to
bear her fair share of taxation than she has been for
generations, and besides the wisdom of an equalisa-
tion of taxation through all portions of the same
kingdom, that very equalisation affords in itself a
fair claim for equal laws. 'When Ireland is taxed
like England, how can England deny her right to
equal legislation in all otter directions ?
In proposing the extension of Income Tax to all
persons earning over 1001. a year and less than lag.,
Mr. GLADSTONE said he did nut wish to take it down
"to the region of labour;" but he should know that
perhaps no class in the community are more labo-
rious than the people who earn this very class of
incomes. lie gave also cases in which estimates had
been made of the way in which incomes varying
from 1001. to 150/. were usually expended, and went on
to show how far the reductions of taxation consequent
on fiscal reform had benefited this very class. He
stated that the Hundred Pound Income people had
gained by recent reforms, at least five, and in many
cases seven per cent., and gave this as a reason ter
bringing them within a new range of taxation. In
other words,—what he said seems equivalent to
saying, " Let us cut off at one swoop a good two•
thirds of the advantage which this class has gained
by free trade."
As a whole, the Budget has boldness and weakness
—merit and demerits—a forward action and a back-
ward action. In the elaborate attempts to show that
Income Tux is incapable of reform, Mr. GLADSTON
is wrong—in his declaration that this tax may bo
used as a lever to relieve our industry (rove many
more mischievous imposts, he is right. `Athen ho
talks of its capacity for enabling us at n moment's
notice to plunge into war, he quotes as 'an enormous
good, that which is rather a dangemu s temptation,
and therefore an evil, but when SPEo.l(ing of it as a
productive source of revenue, enahlio g a CHANCELLOR
of the EXCHEQUER to dispense yr ith taxes like that
on soap and on tea, he told awe icons truth.
In his calculations of supper'„ he evidently bids the
Soap Duties and the Legaer.,• Duties, and the redue-
rstptoutitehse Tories he says, " I won't.
tr,expectation of aid from
Retionfoormt tehrse;Swtm
have a graduated Incotr.e Tax : I will do as your
I Chancellor wanted to do, by extending the Income
Tax to Ireland, and• to all who earn 100/. a year
whilst, lastly, he seeks to mollify the Irish for the
imposition of the 'lncome Tax by saying, " I ask you
for 7d. in tho pound, but then I forgive you a debt of
over 4,000,0t/.d."
Next in i'hportance to the Income. Tax proposition
comes tbs., which proposes the reform of the Legacy
Duty. This tax Mr. GLADSTONE —as we have just
said—liroposes most justly and wisely to put on a
new looting, in the way which Reformers have often
and long pointed out. The Legacy Duty is to be
extracted to all successions to property by death—
Irettlements not to escape. All persons gaining
wealth by the demise of others are to be taxed
very justly, the suggested removal of the soap duties,
‘tkilolnthit the
so
wasweeal
l•lrueeceioyf the
edv as
I‘lai inte
rest
"l
life assurances, agricultural produce, and stamps. The
advertisement duty reduction to sixpence, is only an
iatnankelpolporle reduction of the tax on tea, and on carriages,
instalment, which, atter the recent decision of the
House of Commons, is meagre and ungraceful. This
Tux on Publicity must all come oft The removal of
the supplement stamp is a huge gift to The Times.
But of this more hereafter. The sum total of pro-
posed new taxes, with the balance of surplus, avail-
able for 1843-4 for reduction of other burthens, is
stated at 2,149,0001.
Mr. GLADSTONE'S speech was en elaborate anti
powerful exposition of the financial nfltirs of the
nation; and if its Compromises include on the one
band an extension of unreformed income tax, they on
the other propose that the tax on successions shall be

to itle g..51k131. and that soap, tea, life pulicis ailver-
it-tit:cuts, haw, carriages, servants—or in whir
wurits. 14 miwritnet. clvanlino*s, prudence. puhliti y,
and labour—shall cantle a porthin of the hurthin
they have hitherto borne. At first blush the Budge:
me. ins, as a whole, likely to be popular with the
House of Common., and not the less so that any re-
fusal of it, by any combination of Dertiyites with
Busse who sit opposite to them, would doubtless
reader a muls cattier Dissolution of Parliament re-
quisite thin will otherwilu coin about. Th..! mule
imp-emit Verdict of the country Liu now to be
taken.

Tnt: public expreted—and we an. inclined to think
i Mr. (it.AIO.TONE intended—a larger reduction of the
Ti a duty than 1w has at length seen fit to propose.
Other reductior.s—which he had not anticipated but
Das found it impossible to refuse—may have made
bum consider it best not, at present, to gu beyond
the .1
The reduction, small as it is, is better than no-
thing. The ilut3-paid price will fall a little, and so
far the consumer will be benefited. The price in bond
will rise, and even the smallest advance will bring
forward more teas from China. The scheme of re-
duction is, however, a mistaken one. The two im-
portant points—a sufficient lowering of the price
here to give rise to a large increase of consumption,
and a sufficient rise in Chins to get beyond the col-
lectors and dealers. _ _ _

The tea is grown by a multitude of small farmers,
producing probably from 50 to GOO chests each. The
tea mt rchants of the district either themselves travel
round or send their agents to buy from the farmers,
and it is quite clear that if they make no effort to pro-
cure more than their usual purchase', they can eery
snugly keep any moderate advance to I lientselvee, and
there will be no inducement to the farmers either to
pick their frets a little more closelyor to extend their
plantations. The 4d. reduction of duty, even if
the price were to be lowered by the whole
amount, would allow no greater fall per otimee
in the grocers shops than a farthing. But by
to-morrow the wholesale price will have gone up
not less, probably more, than twopence a pound,
leaving, at best, but twopence to roach the consumers.
And it is doubtful whether a saving of a penny in a
quarter of a pound of tea will tend either to much
larger purchases or more liberal use. The reduction
may be just sufficient to turn the scale in favour of a
better tea, and it is fur more likely to show itself
in an increased use of the finer sorts than such an
increase as will tell upon the revenue. The grist
consumers of tea are the little buyers. It is they
who can make the reduction of duty a gain instead
of a loss to the revenue; but they, under Mr. Ohao-
STONE.S plan, must be content to wait another year.
Competition amongst grocers may do something for
them, but the hare reduction of duty will do
nothing.
It is difficult to understand upon what grounds
Mr. GuinaruNE can have chosen to extend a reduc-
tion of Id. over two years. Everything is in favour
of the whole amount being taken off at once. The
prosperity of all classes of the people is sufficient to
ensure an unprecedentedly rapid increase of consump-
tion. The stock on hand—on the water and in
China— cannct be less than 100,00000165. There
is time even yet for the news of a reduction to reach
China sufficiently early for an additional ten million
pounds to be picked this Tear. The grocers, if
the demand amongst the number of small cu►tomers
were increased, would take off from the retail price
the rise of twopence which the increase of' consump-
tion would cause in the wholesale price, so that on
the average teas might be sold a halfpenny an ounce
cheaper,--and small as the amount is, it would be
sufficient both to increase and extend the use of tea
amongst the multitude. And cautiously as the
duty creeps down to a shilling, the chances
are that the revenue will recover its% If more
slowly under the lingering than it would have
done with an immediate reduction. The addi-
tional 41d. to be gained in the year will
make it well worth the while of tea speculators to
let their stock out sparingly. The more they keep
in hand, the better the price for what they bring
into market; whilst the next year's 4d. of duty will
in addition to interest on money, furnish a handsome
profit. The splitting of the 81d. is therefore clearly
the worst possible device for the revenue, as it holds
out a considerable premium to dealers to keep the
largest possible quantity of their teas in bond, to
keep up the price, keep down consumption, and cause
a loss to the revenue. It is true the reduction, both
present and prospective, will tend,—so far as the Ch-
inese do not hold for their share of the future drops of
duty,—to increase our purchaaesof tea in China, and so
to extend the market there for our manufactures.
But important as is the reduction of the tea duties
as a question of home comfort, it is still more
important as regards our trade with China. Silk
and tea are virtually the only return that China has
to make for our goods, and we have to meet America
in the Chinese market at the disad.-antage that their
consumption of tea, bearing no duty, is increasing
much more rapidly than ours.