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tr strengthen them, sad to earry the benefits of education
cats those quarters where, without the co-operation of
the state, the voluntary system was not strong enough to
hi=lt. (Hear, hear.) In that he thought was nin-
ths pith of the noble lord's resolutions. Neither the
sable lord nor the right hon. baronet, nor any supporter of
*eh plus, intended for • moment*, enter late a straggle
with the friends of the volsetary system. They were rather
Wended te eupplemest the deflation:lee of that system—to
make It quicker is its epergnes and more effectual is its
results thee it scald be standing saaided and alone. Let
not the advocate, of the voluntary system distrust the legia-
lefty', as the legislature did not west to discourage them.
Any veluntary Or permissive system would, is hie opinion,
fall short of the mark. They had been long enough quietly
faulting to the banquet. They must sow go out Into the
highways and compel the guest' to come in. He spoke of
me harsh cempahios by law, or of inveditig the sanctity of
isilividisal liberty, which would sot be tolerated is this
esse, but of a moral oompuleims, as an aid of that legal
eauspalaiou which he did not think had been carried too far
`the resolatioas of the noble lord. He confessed, when he
heard the stadstka quoted by the noble lord, that he felt
greatly disheartened, and they compelled him to exclaim
mentally that something most be dose at length on this esh.
jest, for they &mimed a (rightist sawn of soma waste in
she ouster—ft lead ealtivetai aft at ell, se wellftered
badly, bet whidt Unattested on the rules of geed sad
moral hasbaodry would rodeo, an abundant crop of virtue
end of happiness It was their duty in this critical age to
If* them fasts steadily in the fees, sad ask themselves why
sash a state el things had been suffered to continue as loop,
sad Veit to human upon them. (Hoar, hear.) Let them
leek at these resolutions in the spirit of benevolence, and
mien that their aim was the moral caltivation t fus in-
dividual child who was regarded in them es one of those
Immortal spirits of which the state was but an eggregate,
mid which the state had as much neghcte I. (Hear, bear)
They most sashes to • muse of tbel duty in this :upset, '
sal would be rewarded in the week that was eleMe•
p
Fareastb, they were to be told that the statement*
aslant's Mop ia this dinetion—that it could sot attempt
he saltiest* the moral waste, became there was a oblates of I
asisishiag or destroying the safeguards of civil and reli-
=fiberty. Looking calmly at the objection which
the substratum of the unreal but showy
te the resolutions of the noble lord,
=l:rget ed with se much perseverance and oohs
,rusewlest a strange paradox it resolved itself
fate. It meant this, that oar s'reagth was • somas
of weakens that oar power made u powerlfte, that
we are se free that we must *esti' as to remain the helpless
slaves ft *mace, and its ally—vice. (Hear, bear.) Was
Eagles& se free that she could sot educate ? and was it to
be maiateined that if more power was accorded it could not
ha tileseted Mee saes sod pmesable channels, as sot to
baser en mein d deslnstoe ? (Hear.) It was not so;
it 001611214, end oughtnet,, is be so. Let them not, in the
19tb untery—la thesmwhlal mad remarkable times—stel-
tify thiamine by sonanteding that noble thing liberty with
that ignoble thing limas*. Bishop Bader said that liberty
Itself was • Severe oat restraining thing. Were they not
laterferlng, sseeioa after mealost, with rights which they
genesined to be peculiarly their owe—the rights of persona,
**rights of labour, the rights of property—sad imposing
M them nannies' which would sot be tolerated M a
elate of lower sivilisatios. The Ineumbered Esteem Asti
behead. and twenty other instances which he ell
WON Isesellarenses on the port of the state with
effiblinallibsety. This was nesessary when them were
page** le be extirpated when there was a growing
wart gm body politic. Hs complained of the bitter
sad 1104•111•100 language which bad bees used is certain
pope's whisk had tome into his hands respecting the noble
lord, wham undue he thought deserved the most rope*
fel soaddention. (Hear, hear.) After the beet consider-
able which he was able to give the subject, it did not
appear to him thrt the noble lord contemplated by his nee-
latiou any violation of the true liberty of the subject, or
say rafringessent of the rights of the people. He would
coatent himself with suing that he thought those weal. do
essmtjmeden—say, would do great lojastice—to the rem's-
Menh vas did not look at them as • whole, as
I:4=Mellstaey whole, haviag for their *tem the
elf education throughout the emustry, sad
thei IMprevement of those waste patches of ground white
the webnatery efforts did sot reach. Nothing weld be mere
cheering as the public at large and to the eonstiftesche of
Iheseuemy than te sae Ire that loam, whisk was the fear
of the will sad action of the matins, the general avowal on
ell sides of that holy reveres*, of religion without which
edeestion wee • mockery,' delusion, and • can He knew
the difficulties were great, but he said, with the noble lord,
let them de somethiag. Let the Mate remember its duties,
sad let the how bear la mind the words of the greatest
mu that sat Is it during the lest century—he memo B.
Barite—when he said, that in • Christian oesuesnweelth
She stele and shuck were time end the ease thing, and that
redigiest, so far from being oat of the prowls= and duty of
tin Christian magistrate, should be kis principal care. In
Ms Maim, It was the Ixundue duty of *estate lolanda*
kale Wiest of education. With regard to the machinery
be whir this gnat reeult was t be effected he eriafessal he
Mobil our great ninety, and he bored the noble UM
would ass that he wished to throw any °Misdeals his
way if he y reteleded hint that he woeil mats a
gnat es kA Vas by the resolution whisk Mated
te the tialNw of (amities. (Hear, hear.) He wlshed
the noble lest ea this esessioa to est his bark so as to earl
every favourable wend. end to avoid every sank* leek.
Be believed that rest *My war this ermatry, but that ease
natiem were Iseldng with satiety es to the way the British
pedllt wail deal with this great quietism. He had
ned fres eapreseleg hie:deliberate opinion; and he
In the words of Lord Coke, " the great
MAM, etlawyme," se be was called, that " whilst he was
blamed who eamatensed the building, mere blessed was
he whe raised ft up, and meet blessed of all he who com-
pleted it Into *religiose edifies." (Chew.)
Mr. BWART supported the educational project as out'
Used is the resolutions sow peopmed for adoption.
Lord R. CECIL criticised the dela* of the plan, object-
(y snugly to the Imposition of • local rate, which, he
believed, would omission leftmost struggles and heartburn-
hags moan the smathers of differest sects.
Mr. IL MIMI& numbed gamy of the objections urged
against she alms% and mateadt4 that in practice they
would be easily eatmeaueed.
B.r J. GRAHAM meld not comsat to interrupt the pro-
gram of the volustesg system of education. He denied the
merlin' that the pm* were uneducated. Under
trete fres laminates* sad by free efforts the means of ta-
nnish* were tabs rapidly *needed in the most satin-
fastoey maser. Aeregarded religious teaching, he thought
the pies premed less eligible eves thus the complete adop-
tioe of she swabs orlon ii sal the cmosalslon wpm ma-
peyote to God hwereeden fee their jay's& operatives saw
=• evades tyremeimi interference wi 11 private
whisk wee shift landadselble. Contending that the
moat resebteleas were saaneseary, and the voluntary
quite auflielest for the provides of the lamas of
Bir J. Graham and statistics to show bow eau-
newly the means as provided have augmented withis
the lms thirty yesirs,end towhee a rape Wable atagnitade they
bad stabs.. He found is tae pamphlet of Mr. Baia., that
'bushes ead *hauls existieg in Mislead In 1801 committed
6,171,030 peens; la 1861 the eburelaus and dispels coutaised
10,202,000 piteous. OnlylBB,oooaltingehad beer provided
with any help from pathaseent, while 4,852,000 sitting.
had bean provided by the voluntary seal of cherebenen and
diftenters,fto by far the larger number of them by the poorer
of three two bodies. (Cheers.) The proportion which the
I Wintery system bore to the perliameatery system, was 96
per eseL se against 4 ter seat. The stets bad granted
while the voluntary principle had yielded
" He had

(Rhein) He had said that be regarded this very
mach as • sew church rate. A bars majority of
the ntspayen might Impose the tax opus a large mino-
rity. Dr. Candlish, a dissenter, bat a man of genius,
long ago united that the excellence of the school
lay in the saboolmaarar, end that rules were nothing, that
the man was everything. Some bare majority might decide
what sehcolmaster should regulete the religious tree:brag.
If he were of the Chinch of England, ell the twenty-four
mete of the parish world be in arms against him, and would
• his sworn esemin, and indisposed to his teashiog. If he
wens • disunite, the churchmen would be snort seriously
aggrieved, and so far from puce, thenwould be • sword In
rem parish in the kingdom. (Hear, hear.) It would be
• popetual cane of discord, and it was imprudent now,
while we had so mush difficulty in quenchica the Satan
created by the church rate, to kindle a flame which
would be more pernicious still. (Cisme) e
thought the somparaery rate and palely secular education
mast stead er talftegether. The priaeiple of tne right boa.
member Ise Newhouse was well funded, to that eaten.
Bat last year the right hon. member for Dvoinrioli had met
it, se his (Mr games Graham'.) einsweloast, with • devout
wish, M whisk he would gladly join if he aid nut think It
most fatally delusive. The right hon. member for Drottwisk
had dared to fled some lei lli ads which daub-
nes sal
ad
stiiffint, Hie OM. is
while Hwy weal, sal liserittlyt Vs. pasta at whit* tikey
differed. (Laughter and chum.) New, of all Utopian
wishes, that was the most hopeless ; because, so far es hie
experience went, with reference to these religious differ-
same, the more minute wore the differences tea more In-
tense enmity they provoked. We mast regret it, bat such
was unhappily the fact. Well, this clan had been most
happily termed by Mr. Baines the neutralisation of the
Black dos of religious teaching—(a laugh)—and the loan
asked how to embark with the noble lord won that
sentralieed ma. Religion, after all, was the maisspriag of the
voluntary nunional associations and efforts at Zeeland.
(Chests) It was the rel‘glosto seal of different
soots which prompted them bonny to incur expense, an
to bestow labour on the foundation and main-
Mance of these denominational anode That was
the moving principle, the life blood of all. He
did net my but that their differences were anfintnnately
gnat, and their resentment sgai.st the establianed dawn
was too warm; bat he fully admitted that the groat body of
the dissesten of Hegland were fellow ehristiant, and that the
faith of the ehristien religion was the sera by which they

were prompted. Now would the hoses agree to tanspel
with that principle, covertly and putislly, in a manner
which was more dangerous then the direct establishment of
Feeder schools would be? Would it be desirable that, in
the 'shoots maintained by a rate, the religious teaching of
the abildren should depend on the cbanmenedley mejaity
of the day, on the annual election of a schoolmaster, erneerpt
the ratepayers of the 'wish, and that thee. who die-
mated from it should he obliged to conteibute their
money for what they disepproved ? Nothing could be
more likely then the mess of injustices which this woad
excite, touching them in the most sundaes p Ant, +heir re-
hiring, to occasion a stew of anger, daeord, and, he hoped
not, cf tumult, which he would searePly venture to contem-
plate, much less to predict. (Chain.) He would not stay
to enforce the observation that Heeler teething wit oat re-
ligiose lestrustion would not be conducive to sound morals
or to there'd interests of the cnentunity. The first sleet
comuseadmest, the love of God, and the second like unto its
toe love of our neighbours, oa which depended eli our hap-
piness here sad all our bopse hereafter, required that house
torus before, In violation of those great precept., they de-
praved the people of the inestimable benefit which they now
eajoyed,--setular teaching intermingled, on the vo!untary
priecip:e' with religious teaehicg. (the right hon. baternet
eat down amidst greet sheering.)

Sir J. PAKINGTON was prepared to give his support to
the gourd spirit of the reirolatithe, but be did not concur in
all the y suggested, as was proved by his snowing an amend-
ment. He did not think Use lint resolution, for beldame.,
wee at all emeatial to the noble 1r rd's plan, end in this
reepect, therefore, he agreed with the right hon. baronet.
' Nor did he think the mugs trate. at quarter within oven id
tom's, much less in counties, could possibly be sufficiently
informed of the requirements of distant perishes to enable
them to decide upon the eseount of the education rate
which should be imp aid. Apia, with regard to the sixth
rental's's, he so far agreed with the right the. baronet that
he did not That
understud why the noble lord bad hitter
dewed in -That resolution touched upon a delicate and a
difacelt sating, and was likely (es it hod done already) to
greats considerable alarm throughout tine country. It ironed
a principle on which there was great difference of °plebs.
sad considering how foreign it was to the scope end object
of the noble lord's plan, be hoped it would be withdrawn;
bat, as he had said, to the general spirit of the revolutions
he was prepared to give his adherence, and to advocate the
neesmity of sash a p'en as the noble lord proposed. Hs
weld welt understand, looking at the imp ounce of the sub-
ject, that the reselatiocs might lead to,difference of opinion,
bat he confessed he bad been altogether unprepared for the
coupes taken by his right hen. friend (Kr. Hensley), and
upon wthelt the right hon. baronet (Air J. Graham) bed,
singularly 1/Menifb, been altogether silent. Throughout
kin loeg spew& the right honourable harvest had
nowhere Wormed the house whether he was
prepared to vote with his right hon. friend the member
Mr Geford in calling upon the house to repudiate the whole
eithject and refuse to entertain the question of the education
of the people altogether. (Hear, hear) Upon that point
all he would say wee that if the house were to adopt that
thine they would evince an utter disregard of the feelings
c f the people, an iadiffereees to the puhlie interest, which
could lot fail to shake, the othildeoce of the emu try in the
House of Collisions. (Hear, hear.) He now came to the
criticheas of the right boo. baronet on the noble lord's
resolutions. His Snit objection wai to proceeding
by nth:sties at all. He (Sir John Pekirptoo) ad-
mitted that there were parlous objections t* that curse.
Early In the smith he had reminded the noble lord that
mere resolutions would not educe** the people. Rethlu-
tithe bad been psesed in former days. Lord Brougham,
many yews ago, had plated a 'violation on the books of
piriiemeet on this subject, but no practical result bad
ensued. The noble lord, however, defended that mode of
proceeding by orpiment§ the pre priety of which he could
not but admit. He said, what esperience had proved, that
no independent member could hope to carry any measure
on the subject of education, and that therefore be thought
the more prudent cones. for him would be not to
attempt the hopeless task of legislation, but to en-
deavour, in the shape of resoletioes, to lay down broad
principles for the adoption or rejection of the house.
That, he thought, answered the right boa. baronet's ant
objection (Hear.) Tt en the right boo. baronet took en.
ceptioa to the resoostions one the same ground that hi. right
hoe. friend (Hr. Healey) bat taken in his speech's( last
seesioe—vig, the interferesee with the parochial principle,
the importune of maintaining the parochial boendaries,
and preventing the otherwise of the sethco'ututer and the
schools. Now, be thought he could show that the astute-
ammo of the parochial system was inspracticabis in any
system of natiocal etiolation. Is a perish, • large portion
of which belonged to himself, there were bet 36 resifte at
inhabitants, and only five children of*. school ace. How
could the parochial system be applied to that parish, or
how could they 'void that severence of the erhoolmastar
and the whorls which his right hoe. friend depreca•ed?
He would mention another instates*. Art hdeaenn Wil-
liams, is his elesrmi to the clergy of Monmouth. took up the
wore point, and alluded to a pariah wh•ch contained only
seventeen inhabitants. Could the perocbial system be
maintained there in any scheme of national education?
He thought he seed go ati (either in reply to the objection
of the importatthe of maintaining the parochial boundaries.
(Hear) The next objection Wee that the Ilia of the noble
lord was not necessary. He joined issue with the right hon.
bar net on that point—be held that it was imperatively
aeons's), if they wished the people to be educated. The
right hos. baronet then alluded to the state of
England in regard to education, and he quoted various
ataustice for the purpose of in-tooting a e w ',Arno&
between three perlode—the years 1818, 1833, end 1851. He
(Sir J. Pakingtoo) did not deny that with regard to the
centenstal proprieties, the wheals were bet•er attended in
1861 than in either of the previous periods; but the right
boo. baronet bad omitted to not es that the protease be.
meth the too latter writhe was lets than between the two
drat. Neither bad he a :versed to the f act that even if the
centesimal proi onion were far greater than it war, it would
be useless and ihog sales* the *Wools were better fitted
fir their pupae than they were. Theo the right hor. baronet
alluded to the comparative state of education in tt is ruotry
cad I. various plains on the contusive, but would he forgive
him (BirJ. Pekingese) when he told him that his state-
ments epos that point w.re thrronghly and altogether er-
remages. (Hest.) The right hos. baronet said that England
wee only exceeded in the centesimal prrportion by 1.
He believe', sad be spoke on the best authority, that we
were eseethth by seamy coatinental coon • in this respect.
Is one ot the &with menthes the onste.theal proportion WY
l in 4,1 e another 1 in 6; in Prussia It was 1 in 6; is some
parts of France it was as high as 1 in 3; in 'downy it wee I
in 0 ; in Denmark 1 in 7; and in the New Engleed States
of America it was lin 6. He had, thee, mentioned several
forage cowstries in which the rroportirn was higher than la
tote. The neat argument rf the righ. hon. baronet wee
that the plan would b' oppressive to the poor. His (Sir J
Pakingthee) opinion was directly the theme. He b-.lieved
nattiest emelt he more hijerioes t' the to .r the the pre-
sent imp seib lity seder which they libellee', in many ruts
of the country, of providing the education for their children
which they ought .0 meth., and leveed id being op.-repairs,
hweoubtebevedmiort we
part"grldatilifloutondplabralitentroeot r Istehcah raorattestr:
thee tt at portion cf the labouring and industrial awes
ohms children would derive benefi from •he improved sye
tem of edreetion proposed. (He r.) Then tie right bee-
baronet objected that the noble lard's oleo was anothatits-
Owl. It would be priewapaea In him to attempt to do-
lasi a piss pored by the ;gbh bid optima • chair g