The Express.
London, England, 1853-03-03 00:00:00

PRIVATE BUSINESS.

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On the nrition tor the second reading of thisbill,
Mr. HEADLAM opposed it on behalf of landed proprie-
tors, on the ground th►t their right to certain land was not
recognised in the classes. lie mused that the bill be read
ast coil time that day six months.
Mr. W. PATTEN thought the bill ought to be read a
second time. There was a question in dispute between the
erosion and ()Wain landed proprietors as to the ownership
of the laud; and, if that question wero not settled before
the hill had passed through committee, the matter mast
be ref, Trod to s court of law.
Dir. T. PARKER supported the motion.
Mr STKUTT said the question of title ant basing been
decided, the hilt ought. in his opinion, to be referred to •
committee. On behalf of th. Duchy of Lancaster he would
undertake that, if the landowners succeeded in estah:ishing
their legal rights, they would meet with no obstruction
from the crown in exercising them.
The amendment was then withdrawn, and the bill read a
fecund time.

PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
JIWI•,1 DIA AaILITIES.—By Mr. MOODY, from Mar•
Mick, loot anhull, Bradford, and Heathfield ; Lord
LEWISHAM, from Staffordshire ; Mr. M. SMITH,
from Rect.., and churchwarden of North Ockenden, Eyes
Mr. FItEWEN, from Barwaah, in Sussex, and Sapcote, in
Leicestershire ; against the removal of.
OPINING TER CEESTAL PALACE ON SUNDAYA.—By
Sir E. FILMEIL from inhabibutty.f Sevenoaks, in Kent ;
Mr. CHEF IHAM, from workmen in the parish of Bury,
South Laecashire ; Mr. PHINN, from 1,740 working men
of Batik ; Lord LEWISIIAM, from workmen in the
employ of Meson. Begneh and Suns engaged in dif-
ferent parishes in South Staffordshire, amuuntiog to 1,600
persons ; against.
114 11. VOOlll ORANT.—By Mr. M. SMITH, from Ton-
bridge-wells and neighbourhood in West Kent, against.
J EA Ulf* A,. D CUNT ENTA.—By Mr. 51. SMITH, from Ton-
bridge- wells, and other places, against the intrigues of the
Jesuits, and praying that the act of 10 Oeo. IV. esp. 7, for
the suppression and final prohibition of such orders may be
carrita into effset, end fur inquiry into convents and nun-
neries, and thsd they may be placed under inspection.
P•KLIAMENTARY P•rsas.—By Mr. AGLIONDY,
from the Meryport Mechanics' Institution, praying for a
supply of.
Lari Canatzsgs.—By Mr. MOODY, from letter-ear-
Tiers at Chard, against restrictions upon gratuities
TUE WATERFORD ELECTION PETITION.
The select committee upon this petition was nominated.
TILE HULL ELECTION PETITION.
The SPEAKER. informed the hoses that he had that
day received • letter from the agents for the petitioner
widest the return for Hull, stating that it was not their
intention to proceed with the petition.
THE CAMBRIDGE ELECTION PETITION.
Mr. V. SMITH moved that the evidence takes before
the Cambridge elation committee be printed. Agreed to.
UNION OF BENEFICES BILL.
Mr. PREWBN moved the woad reading of this bill.
Is introducing this bill he was actuated by • desire to pro-
mote church reform. In • bill whisk he proposed • year or
two ago power was given, seder .retain restrictions,
to unite livings of an essiesses value of 6001.,
in eases where there was an aggresses population of 1,500;
hot, in the month of August-lost jest before the 'melon
terminated, the restrictions were 11111111,1114 sod the matter
was left entirely apse. A return ~nested to the house
showed to what abase this 'henna& nail led ; in feet,
nothing but the manias Oda bilneltdoesold prevent four
or five small livings hem boas UMW MS of fire or six
hundred • year, with sa • impaled= of 600. Such
powers were saw leardaraltithie the last three years,
and it was nesensay none limitation should be imposed to
prevent furthest abase. The case of masters of colleges
who had Ityleip at a distance from the university was peat-
liar, and of souse an exception must be made in
their favour. There were nearly one hundred benefices
for churches which had almost tumbled down from neglect;
and he knew one ease in which 200 people paid 2001 a
year to a clergyman whom they never saw. In such in-
stances steps should be taken to prevent the continuance
of the abuse after the living became void. Besides re-
stricting the power of uniting benefices, be had inserted •
clause with regard to private chapels, which he trusted
would be assented to,
Mr. 8. lIERBERT said the first enacting clause
of this bill was in direct contradiction to that which the
hon. gentleman introduced in 1850. He must say that this
legislation on important subjects by taking isolated
portions of them appeared to him extremely mis-
chievous; and he had to reproach himself with
having contributed to create a most inconvenient
confusion with respect to pluralities. (llear, hear.) The
bill before the house militated against a project of the go-
vetnment, founded on the report of a commission which,
under the presidency of the Earl of Shaftesbury, had sat to
inquire into the whole subject of the union of parishes.
(Hear, hear.) He would state what it was that the coin-
Mission recommended. Is the City of London there existed
S vast number of parishes, whose tarlatan had elatost en.
tirely migrated. The city ehurchos were almost entirely
deserted on Sunday. Whets the auras was last takes it
was found that the numbers had diminished to 40,000, and
had it been taken on 'Sunday he believed there would have
been hardly soy population at all. (Laughter.) It was
proposed that the Bishop of London should have power to
smite several of these parishes, and that after peeper provi-
des had been made for the insunasat of the
Cires united, the surplus IMAM be devoted to
srpoess of clues is populous saborle. Whenever the
easemwe wee twee& forward, it would be at the
sasstime to parse the »peel of this bilk it to
Ns into a law. The third ebbe of Ms MR appeared to
Wm oat objectionable. It peeeided fhb is in in white
me service was earthresedthe preemie ef dee bseelle shield
seessellte lase there we =Heists to Mid a ohne& He
midi say wehre shot the debts of petrels, ihr lee was sot
use althea who heid ow* SON is very high "ideation Is
seises, to ow* medieee-rQteer, hear)—but he met pre-
emie her
peens hebebt is a sate of heathenism ler a
somber times seedylesams they were set amen=
mg ahem*. Ober, hear.) The_ *is he..
essibled by melee that the bill should be read
• weed thee than der els imostbs.
air R. INGLIS semi* the motion.
After • few words item Mr. 711111 FIN, is explanation,
Mr. SPOONER beememmiled the withdrawal of the
metiers.
LEEWEN said be Wald take the UM, member'.
dyke.
The motion was seeeldbily withdrawn.
MAMMOTH, ADJOURNED DEBATE.
2'he seder of the day for tel the aftiesseed debate
es Ms lialisibire imehesse te Mr. Speower's seeks
Ote laVis h *Rho isedlessodevise s
bees os Wei.
welly Less shoe aAb b Alcides. ut b tee law i tbelset day to dim
the quietism*. Neemdmet te he pat), Mobs hews read,
Mr. ISADTHILD mid be ea** apposed a as
erserallesee bat wilk the umaseetemdbje=bemr
tine dee whole sedielpie et raielese he
esesidesai. bilidbethe seises army WOW, airesz:
and all dim greeted theses seam. The
sera be slime belied nes se a peonies tar
sad tbe ollte Deaf er the Irish else* wee solve est
sisamobie. of state mitiMisignei subson,
INS as* te elliPlaeft of the oessffsee. Thi
et amOni est Wales, asmlleteg as Hwy
11,110asimeadee. hi set nein sus head* of the
elite any is lay hos vbebear sal *tip MI It • peat
*Wise Sat they wee had he the supped et my de.
immebalime I and with 5,02.21 the Isms Nadi, (mei
II we a ower dee wee hr their Uwe-
Ile, thst beb *hell& te :be hes. bobber he
Mara Wortie . Speosse), whoa be &bead sir
mr_ 40* Whim ler desembedos of
'oblate* the missidtuet the peep* prbso=
eine amasime le 11.7smia , Men:) The
Wei amber el *mall helmets. to iebbiblemest,
webbed belle. Masses els yew ago. wee is Heetemd,
Webs lisoliesd, sod lealom4 14,600 ; while the sea-
bee el emeawhemiot eingespeine wee in Beebe& sad
Weise HAM mei is Sembed SAS ; while in braised the
pophstioa wee, as rapoilod the atablideed ohm* sae-
esehomiste is %bowler** arsine er
that
(Hear.)
the sesselses et that *wok bore
reet=tesoslbe emossielep Is the *see
mu lie mwtboa ear SOL The geodes=
beim wee sot ef rasters truth or ewer, hes whether
or set the state should give money ablesesesale hr reli-
gions purposes in say deasaiestbas?
Mr. SCHOLIFIRLD—Oseeihriag the melba of his
ben !lend ((I[r. h.= et • par Mapeask t
son Sae Vket te the art es eadeolb• sad isaidtstirefiltt
11 lb deity Se move aa mil
ebbe:real endow-
ments amid ea the rea=rdee mss he semongis
pease. He woo asked why he led set issisioll
smarm is Wend, the espies essiss,ea the Ida *arch
he hie emblem& ? Ina beard to misistoes money it
4111 set sem wads the eatogery of nosey rebind from
the state, sod, with spa to the regime dooms he felt
be wee set 'espouse te dal with it. Thar amends& an •
was of the less in is meiontos. It was fee the VMS-
WM to lefts h h'ea'l er withdraw it ; for his .7,e
le should .satins se be bell hitherto done, to rots
the great when it was eekelthel. Thee, as to the
when that suedes wee beim the boos he iambi
lefdlillAiely be hmierbsstrielse VIM not very disdain,'
Thom those of the bee. emeaber ter Meath ; but he felt that
that (like the Shen) wee a emotion with which the 'ab-
ject he bad brought nadir lbeweelou is lie amend-
ment ought net to be tramessiled. (Hoer, bear.)
HS has. Steel the member hr Nee* Wsrwiebbirs ex-
posed p eat sWell to as rid ef the Plesseetk elidkelr•
ink gni as es
hie landansid, eared
idea the mem of die eels. se be believed, the only just
way in whisk ebbe lee dose. (Hear, hear.) His how.
bind, sod One who soled with ids, believed that that
awiewnest inalleilpies anwml da s if eo, let then re-
CVO by the omens of the aid the state of
sine ot *me Institutions Which the amendment
refined te. (Hest, bowl Shwld they refuse to do so, it
wield sot be extramslinary if the many should come to
the igiadeliso that It were mareanxious for tis peat-
mar y_isterest of them titotioas than for the abolition of
the liaynoeat endowment. (Hear, hear.)
Colonel SISTHORP, as a firm supporter of the are-
taunt church, felt bound to uphold every institution which

he conceived would tend to its benefit, therefore he could polemical Win into that hones ; but if they were baro-
net consent to the withdrawal of the. gnats to which the doted, he should certainly take every opportunity of vindi-
hon. gentleman who had just spoken alluded ; but with caring that which he believed to be true ' • but he begged to
regard to the eissnooth grant, believing it bad been in say he had not the slightest wish to add to the ini-
every way perverted, he was fully justified in opposing it. moon which necessarily connected itself with the
Mr. DUNLOP, as one of those who had unfortunately consideration of certain topics. He denied that May-
gene into the wrong lobby in the division, was lazious, in nooth was used for the education of priests who were
order that that circumstance aightnot lead to any inisappre- to officiate in foreign countries, though he admitted that
hension, to explain his views. (A laugh.) The mottos of the there was a great movement of the lAsh population to other
bon. member fur North Warwickshire basing been de- -parts, and amongst those who left their country might be
felted, he could have no hesitation, in declaring his opposi- some priests.
tion to the Maynooth pant, to include with it those other Mr. PHINN deprecated these religious discussions. He
poets to which the amendment refereed, though be should Could vote for this amendment, not became it fully
base been quite ready to Dave voted against the Maynooth answered his sentiments, but because it was a step in the
eadownient by itself. (Hear, hear.) On any future occa- right direction. Ile did not agree with the Norma-
, 'ion when the opportunity offered he should vote against (Demist doctrine enunciated by the hon. immabor for Shot-
that grant alone, considering that it stood on • very differ. field. He should vote for the propositima alio busses he
lent footing to the others, and that its maintenance was a considered it a great boon to the established clunk bet he
public sin and a national calamity, fraught with great trusted the government would see that unless these discus-
duster. That being his view, he could have no hesitation lions were to be renewed nom rear to year and a tone of 1
in responding to the appeal of the hon. member in sacrific- bitter acrimony was introduced into their debates, it was
big, if necessary, the grants to all other denominations, in- absolutely necessary that some comprehensive measures
eluding the state endowment of the Irish church, to get rid should be brought forward which would give tranquillity
of that, and he hoped every nonconformist in the house to the country.
would be prepared to do the same. Mr. WHITESIDE said the hon. member for Dungarees
114. NAPIE It looked upon the Irish church as a peat bad stated that the church of England was dying of bee
ban and blessing to that country, and contended that its
efforts would bear °caparison, and successfully, with those nition.
of the nonconformists. The property of the Irish church Mr. M'GUIRE observed that he did not 'state that.
was its own, and while the members of that church did not Another hon. member stated it and he merely alluded to it.
ilk that it should be supported out of the taxes of the Mr. 'WHITESIDE said there was nothing more unto,-
aolatre, they could not consent to its being reduced to tunatc in that house, and nothing had led to more unfor-
o position of pauperism by depriving it of that which was tunate legislation than the unfounded assertions which
Me owe. had beeti made as to the numerical superiority of
Mr. HUME held that the property of the Irish church the Roman catholic, in Ireland. He maintained
having been given by act of parliament for purposes of re- that the church of the Reformation, to which
ligious instruction, it was competent to parliament to deal he belonged, was never in • greater state of
with it. He had great doubts whether that establishment, prosperity than at the present moment. The hon. member
which bad been instituted by our forefathers to promote for Meath was an Englishman who had transferred his ter-
religion, did not run counter to that object; arid those vices to Ireland. He should rejoice if all his Speeches were
whoop duty it sous to uphold the church could hardly be as judicious as that he had made to-slay. But he remora-
said to have shown a good example as trustees for the ma- bored his speech on the hosting*, that he would never rest
nagemcnt of property and the carrj ing out of an important till that accursed thing the established church in Ireland
trust. The question brought forward by the hon. member was extirpated. He (Mr. Whiteside) had nothing to do
for Birmingham was one of great importance—far too in- with the fasts and ceremonies of the Roman catholic priests,
portant to be dealt with iu an amendment to • motion such but he wanted to know the exact nature of the relation that
as that of the hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Spooner). Ho existed between them and a foreign power, and whether
had bad no hesitation in voting for the continuooce of the they did not hold doctrines totally incompatible with civil
Maynooth endowment, which he 'loudest as an endowment government. The hoe. and learned gentleman thee read a
fur educational purposes only, and which Sir Robert Peel quotation from a speech by the hon. member for Meath, in
had established on its present footing for the purpose of which that hon. member contended that though Queen,
promoting good feeling and allaying religious animosity in Lords, and Commons, might peas a bill and call it a law, it
Ireland. Whether the amount paid was larger than ne- was not a law till it had received the sanction of an Italian
cesaary or not ho would not now express any opinion. He priest. They now had the hon. member for Meath face to
would urge upon his hon. friend not to press his motion to face, and they must show him that it was one thing to ad-
a division in its present shape as an amendment, but dress the priests of Rome and the people from the hustings,
to bring the quanta forward at a sub•equent and hold oat such doctrines as this, and that it was another
period as a substantive motion. (Hear, hear.) What, thing to maintain them in the British House of Commons.
however, ho had risen principally to say was, He did not want to inquire into the faith of
that the hon. and learned gentleman opposite must not run the Roman catholic people. A better hearted pee-
away with the idea that ho was the purse bearer of the ple then the Roman catholic. of Ireland did not exist.
church property in Ireland. Church property was public It was not a matter between them and the papistry, or the
poperty, and wet in the hands of parliament to deal with Roman catholic priesthood. The hon. member (Mr.
it if it thought fit. (Hear, hear.) Far his own part, he was Phinn) had hoped, indeed, that the time would come
Inclined to think it might benefit religion and promote the when the contest between the two religions would cease ;
general interest of the country, and especially contribute to but the quarrel bad begun at the Reformation, and he
the good feeling in Ireland, if all public money for religious (Mr. Whiteside) was afraid it would continue so long as
purposes were withdrawn. At present the quarrel appeared :be church of the Reformation should last. (llear.) He
to him to be about the spoil, and not about the subject of had been told as much of Rome, and he could not doubt
relimon. It was well known that the revenues of the cola- what he had heard from the highest authorities. (Hear,
Wished church were 'maintained as a means of promoting hear.) He undentood that the most extreme doctrines
the interests of particular families and not for the advance. that had ever been broached in Ireland had been laid
went of religion. (" Hear, hear," and "Oh !") He down by Archbishop Cullen. According to his teaching,
should be in a position to prove this in the committee which the Pope first gave himself universal jurisdiction, andthen
bad hoes moved for by his hon. friend the member for claimed unlimited authority within that jurisdiction. A
Muyiebese. If there were a sincere desire on the part of case in point had recently occurred. A very I d and
the deny to promote religion they would be the fint to reform estimable Roman catholic clergyman had been appointed
the abysm of the church, and to put an end to the system of vice-president of the Queen's College at Galway. The
pluneles and absenteeism which now disgraced it. The Queen called upon.him to discharge his duties ; the Pope
subject was one, however, which must be discussed gene- ordered him to resign his office. Whom did he obey? The
rally, and in reference to the three kingdoms and the Pope. (Hear, hear.) Now he (Mr. Whiteside) wanted to
colonies. They! was no ground, so far as he could see, why know the nature of the obligation that had impelled that
the civil power should intorfere in favour of one creed more gentleman to act as he had done ? (Hear, beer.) Arch-
than another. (Hear, hear.) bishop Wilde was a well-knownUltramoatanist ;
Captain BELLEW, while approving of the principle on and it was stated that no one from his large
which the amendment was brought forward, had made up diocese could he admitted as a student into May-
his mind to vote against it; for he thought the endow- nooth College without his permission. It was also said
ment for Roman catholic purposes in Ireland formed too that no one was allowed to enter the college ban the die-
prominent a part in these payments; and that, therefore, one of Dublin, without Dr. Cullen's written area. (Hear,
the proposal was not one of full justice. hoar.) This, then, was • practical matter to be inquired
Mr. STAPLETON had voted in favour of the motion of into; for here was a statement to the effect that no ate
the member for North Warwickshire, 'neon the argumentscould be admitted to the benefits of the Royal College
which had been brought forward in support of it, but on without the permission of two well-known ultramontanists,
the general principle. His difficulty in dealing with the who would of course see that only those profited by the
amendment was that it went beyond endowments given to institution who held the same opinions as themselves.
dissenters, and included those given to the established (Hear, bear.) The name of Sir Robt. Peel had been intro-
church of Scotland and to some extent those of England duced into this discussion ; and, indeed, his name was
and Ireland also. He objected to that amendment, because always quoted whenever it was desired that members should
in effect it drew distinctions between different descriptions not express their opinions, or should suppress their judg-
e( ecclesiastical revenue which he did not admit to exist. meet- (Laughter.) The committee to which Sir R. Poll
Aad with regard to the grant to the church in the West had silo td bad never reported; and for this plain reason,
Indies, which it proposed to withdraw, though he believed they could not agree as to whether the Jesuits were the
the right principle was to leave the colonies to the truism- ruling body in the college. There was certainly sufficient
tiny system, be could not consent to a proposal that would evidence to laden' many persons to believe that such was
affect one colon and one creed only. (Hoer, hear.) the ease; for the committee found a society within the
Mr. MAGUIRE cold not admit that the protestant wall. of Maynooth celled " The Sodality of the Sacred
church of Ireland was, as the hon. and learned member for Heart; " and it was thought that that was an offshoot from
Dublin University had said, a great Mew to the country. the Jesuits from Rome. (Hear, hear.) Whe that ques-
He believed that the mode in which the principles of that tion should come to be inquired into, he (Mr. Whiteside)
chunk had been owed to be promoted in Mayo, Kerry, should be prepared to show from very able and distin-
end ether usiris d helms. bed wawa put nimble, had guishml Roman catholic writers, that when the Jesuits were
ememeee see weft at society, eat dissuird bop sow banished from many of the countries in Swope, they set
hen d tbe yes* jab lffeeeisis NA mollodlom ski skid op a society which they called the Sodality of the Sacred
it had largely i=owied the crime off Bleep-stealing. Heart. (iles:, hear.) Archbishop M'Hale was a professor
Mond laughter.) The boa. and learned aentienaa (Mr. at Maynootb, and he lied written a work against the lota-
loopier) had asserted that there were no in the bibbed church. Now, that was against the statutes of the
/risk church. Why, he (Mr. M wire) immerses parts in college; but he excused himself on the ground that he was
the diocese of Cloyne where there was only one protestant about to leave Ma nooth in order to become • bishop.
parishioner, bet where the protestant clergyman received But he (Mr. Whiteside) held in hie hand • book by one of
175 f. a year. In New Rom and several other dioceses, the the present professors, in which the Irish ebarch was
protestant., instead of being 1 in 4, were only in the pros poken of in terms which, if true, would be enough to jag-
portion of 1 to 100 or 200 of the rat of the population. To tify the hon. member opposite, who had inveighed against
de . the revenues of the established church in Ire- all establishments, in moving for its utter extermination.
shoullens dbe cut down, not 26, bet 70 per cont. The The work was by the Rev. Patrick Murray, the professor of
Mynah Grant, as given by Sir Robert Peel, was but an Dogmatic Theology at Maynooth; and at page 860 he die-
instalmest of what was due to the embolic population of cussed the subject of the oaths taken by Rooms catholic
that oomotri. He was in favour of the voluntary principle, members of the house. That oath, he said, was to be de-
but woe whew it robbed the ontbdis at the beneot of the tennined by the application of casuistry and then he pre-
readent shemb. He wee no blest is religion, and was seeded to say :—" If a member of perliament eased veld
men emend le the yeassegeg spirit evinced by the against the church establishment, neither can he gen
Taman trent as any proteelont, bat he felt bound to stand against it, fee thus too he would exercise his *meads'
" against e ',wigs whisk he believed to be ruinous to ulna. If he enumerates the reenetrous evils—M he de-
bts country. pieta the hideous iniquity of this abomination et dada-
Mr. W. J. PDX laid the easallisent was that tint—if be orterreees or of omen in an moti'm 101
they swag weeder the dims of goons mum which its quick or pednd rosional—be ii a perjurer. (Mee,
were mg, by ea at Tboo woo di the &nth°. hear.) Aga's, the satins member swears not to use his
pity eel me wanted, as a meatier of awes, when- treinkge to disturb or weans the preSseiant religion. lie
rilirogiernel greats were beeught forward, de= h. **l se a Illotbor...„,st Pahlows*esties • sin note
wader as mach disowns se any Ma. ' say n niet be et emu
he-
fts:: ;!!**. *did net seem te Wm that is this dinmelea wild bibilirsaltabiaelZ—and esatomilethos et the U
My bad any Meeks to dismal dear SI pelniale at erne iliidat Viet IMMlthilegold adie to dna this =paint
egiabilibed nth* ee win wen MIMI* ens% the vo- sal hissiabil. Tien mash and a rag 611 giWism—sillidlit
UMW piesipla "Maw et Alm wee Mated XV I.l.nimaiiinabsublot is mew It win ot•Y be NM tits ewe owsum
sham The gulden to wbish the eandesen of the oath. MIL there me send. en
hed to AA solerellititreini7L was whether the tansies a w
oes Wool with NM soothe tea) who
peons d ea wenn= whatever was to be bend& . . . ft is dentidwabie ismoselens that this
inthan be the of particular claws, seem or *sli Wissooists7 sh** bo listAst *OW way ss otter.
desenikilliall. Os this ydaelple be tainted this ioee ist*PlotsOlk is to be Mos es a soh swi Vale
emeaden went have even tabrewiceS of the RAW That of lbouteet=i ilibo IS tbs MS** i
linseed& main dm North W wean The giverenent ce el INO, sir be* le al
this moaned us se bestile to the Me as isho Poolissosols, os Palms* his tho Aso ono* so
sea
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'Abaft's' al pod& awn they maga Ids sea am he Minn on this cam, delivered in his ewe lumions an
nee of the good Aida, the mild maser, would tend much W the_quiet of Nose ear
=ref the node of a Wank a e het teal des end snaps 'does W. Macaulay Ie Mot
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this easafteent. this mirskay be little Mined ed." Mawr, .)
✓im. BALL odd he eseseived this was net the amens Ahos tbis it -sot be nodded** *0 Id& *Paoli**
en whiek they Amid Seems the melemiesdad mew- who boa annalist the lindunent Let bed bees dished,
meals elf Mini At the come thee he might pent out set by mann Misery, but by the ended dLelassthlla
did
net the miens seeding set
that he ibet ft woo* lis•hskils tholoodyes• Poisoid As he
Wnet Mt tine was 1111 that WM Olei•COOI with as so Wtomtioasi istabikhrteti lt.s: 'Coma hod trim
gee adeftend afteraftie be wag ; end of it in a way that be (Mr. teitee) would net have m-
aladies he age& de "as tea get hr giant when tared to lam den Wawa In Mr. O'Costasirs Life (vol.
the whale at not unities and be ennead. He 1., P. 334.). he win ISPISIDSMid os eg that Me genius
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thee& she the time wee ears whoa thin whe dealt with did not 'lumber even sec IA A tit at *W-
eide Maid de se, astaa the weer and bigoted not* (Eifst hear.) .Tles no Ambit isi,*
pwel etch ems pseeendr=e hid with refernee bsso Mimosa so ss *vs • They
sold, left weibee mad et the great maw et ow* on *OW 7OS WM a* ems. Tin' WO
the gee It bha het then who psi
bed lend meek neat the shank in reload ; but who:-
emboli. MOM SO some Wad eon ben. Ilsadresper aims So ran that flossibst Its
with tbi= He wee suns la seism the Isom mom iv:lr to meet atm. He wadi maw
end be the Tuna Ida vets the Mae* hell Inia bow it made the pre.
greas• anilesdity. whoa be we that his bane was tent iiir enteseibilamerida (Mo. bear.) Never would
tied. He won nature to sell the Matti= of the lines bo Mon * ha* it analnold *mow the college of
for one armee lo a !my fmkAd neaten The len. mom- Holm* Ism twilolni Vtiloos-______..) Hs_ Mrs_
_..tteLtb°,._ „t a°
bee kr Harth Wratehin whoa he breaftt /reward his mug limbers et Ass sontwowsnow * I,,ro•°°" wusil
seethe, reed es eaten ham an Mb in which it was victims to AIWA_ _on Ploswwww-. , As wished that
and thee a genemem, while waken to state had the members St_ MI tIMUSIa_ wen es es prosperous
an hewed she Imps. elf nen one whe knew him—the and happy SS Ine Net et their enow-countrymen-
Rev. W. Ileamdb, MU Ma vetoed the borough et Carlow, But with upset te the penalty of his own church, it was
that if he did nit vetoes he direeled, be nett go and be commuted by the peassisein of centuries ; and its security
d— d. He we ._Aso —d to stow to the bane that that was the Animating sotiols of the union. (Heat, hurl
statement was a pose Mikados. He trusted that these Hs gesidemea had better consider well before they comt-
theological contscooles would ms In that hones ; but, if mined say agitation what would be the effect of inducing
they were anathwit, rest they would be ecsdected in a an independent people to surrender: their national exis►
differenteghlt, once on the anklee that the reformed dank should be
Sir J. V. SHILLHI' said the hia. ember for Montrose maintained 1 end then as Ma as Shg lad **Mt *is
bad reamed* that this anseadseen lilesidl be withdrawn, ends, to strike don that sketch. (unmet.) He speed
He hug be weed not, as that weuld be acting unfairly with hon. gelidness tin wither tithes nor rent
to these who meal spinet the miles ef the ben. member nor even bishop. cob a church, but the pa/4V/
he Made Wererkli with Edam. I. wises speech he teaching—OOteem)--ond the church of Inland Nal hod
might lay that be after beard asythiag awe horrible. Ho of even greater parity than the church in The
believed that if the hon. member had A. opportunity he miserable delusion., and the vanished whisk
would flay and meet every Roman Whelk he could Net had been wit in Zogloail MOW same esen
gnat in
held of. (Chem and langhter.) He was anxious that &e Ireland- (CbossA) It 411. he essit be too mem to
Was and the should understand his reasons for vote against thee atimeases of the establinment..(Cheers.)
ty~eeathe His restive. were to deal even An bon• gentlemen had taunted them with their peasant
all religiose, se had been se obletly staled wavers. • but what had been the conduct of the Roman
by fie irs to
insorber for Old. catholic..? Why, they had actually brought over to Ireland
Mr. LOOM said he than act bees eleireded himself Mr. Wilberforce, and snide him secretary of their
en the ellenden el the hen% bet he the enema which Defence Pao& (Hm!, beer.) Against ever posses
beg been sad. to hint byes be& goadease a the other rich and said to be educated, who had joined
age d the hew. He and be extremely unwilling to the Roman setholics, the Irish church could set • thousand
dory thin peat gratitude was due from the Roman catho. of the peasantry; and if the matter were to be tested by
Um te sway hagentians& ea the other aide of the house, Scripture, he could not supposethat a protestant nation Of
who, will sewage, bed set themselves against many a protestart parliament would look with disfavour on did
das of this country, on the subject of the church because it had performed its highest duty and en-
Moran greet- He emphatically admitted that ; and he cuted its divinest mission. (Cheers.)
abee eileallesd that a considerable number of the liberal Mr. LUCAS rose to explain. The hon. gentleman had
mealmatee the other side of the house, who were prepared attributed words to him which he had never uttered,
to vote dm this amendment, would do so on grounds per- and sentiments which he had felt. With respect to
featly hir ; an if the amendment adopted • More extensive the hon. gentleman's attack upon him, he only wished that
reegsy hied' have his concurrence. Since the motion of it had been made when he was in a_position, by the forms of
die member for North Warwickshire, ho had ex- the house, to harp ',Plied to it. (tea.)
mimed the division list, and he found that no fierjeant MURPHY regretted exceedingly, that after the
yinthao 86 members representing liberal constitueneies, question of Maynooth had been dis of by the vote
veiled for the motion, and of those 36 no less than one-third upon Mr. Spooner's motion, last W nesday, and after*.
he believed, supported the voluntary principle, and were conciliatory speech of Mr. Phinn, the hon. gentleman oppo-
all state endowments whatever, which entitled site should have introduced into the discussion sub
=l:d to
say that the censure be pronounced against them extraneous matter, and so much matter calculated to pro-
les* week was not altogether unfounded. He quite agreed duce religious exacerbation. (Hear. hear.) The hon. gen-
with those gentlemen who deprecated the introduction of Ulnae (Mr. Spooner) had last year put upon the books at

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, 1853.