The Express.
London, England, 1847-02-23 00:00:00

SCOTCH BANKS.

At the request of the Earl of CLARENDON,
The Earl .f EGLINTON postponed his motion for re-
turns respecting Scotch banks.
DE ‘TITUTE PERSONS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the Marquis of LL:4I3LOWaia moving the third reading
of this bill,
Lord ELLEN BOROUGH observed that in the preamble
of the bill it was stated that it was merely intended to re-
lieve the deditate poor tor a limited period. Bet in one of
the heat clauses there was a provistou that after the let of
October no warrant should be issued authorising the levying
of now rates under the act. Ou the last day of September,
however, a warrant, requiring the haying of rates to any
amount, might be issued. What he desired to know was,
whether the amount' which would be collected under the '
rates as required to be levied on the last day of September,
or any other day previous to the Ist of October, was to be
applicable to the purposes of the act, and to be at the die-
erotica of the authorities created under it, or whether, after
the let of October, all action under the act was to cease, and
the money eo collected under it was to be applied to the
general purpose of pass laweeliet
Th. Itaarda ot lbAltailiOWNll4 said, -Oafs the
jest of the bill was to give relief during the period that may
elapse before the coming in of next harvest. It was thought
that by limiting the period to the Ist of October they would
include that period. It wars not intended that a warrant
should be reined fur soy new expenditure to take plate after
that period.
Lord STANLEY said that it would be possible, under the
act so it now stood, that the relief and financial committees
could isaue a warrant before that period for an amount 'effi-
cient to support the poor for the next twelve months. That
would take ,dl discretion out of the hands of the lord-lieute-
nant. He thought that, instead of altering any of the clauses
in the bill, an alteration should be made iu the power vested.
in financial and relief committees.

Lord CAMPBELL said that the object of the bill was
quite clear ; it was only intended to operate within the
period to elapse before Oct. 1.
Lord BROUOHAId said that he agreed with the noble
lord uto the meaning of the act, but the intention should
be made clear and distinct in the act.

After a few words from Lord ELLEN1301101;011,
Tne Marquis of I..ANSDOWNE said that he should post-
pone his motion for the third reading of the bill until to.
morrow to give their lordships en opportuuity of considering
whether it would be expedient to add a separate clause for
the purpose of making it more clear that the operation of
the bill was to be limited to the period within the let of Oct.,
or whetber some wards should be inserted in the 21st douse
of the bill to that effect.. .

The Earl of WICKLOW said that he entirely approved of
the bill, but he complained of the 12th clause of the bill,
which gave an extraordinary power to the relief committees
of choosing between an union and an electoral rate. If an
alteration was made in the law substituting the rating of
unions at large for that of electoral divisions, it would be
attended with very great injury to Ireland.
Earl FITZWILLIANI entirely agreed that to throw the
rating on the unions at large would be productive of most
mi-ehievous effects. He was therefore anxious that it
should be confined to the electoral division, or that
some other community should be created for the pur-
pose. He thought that the pauperism of towns ought
neither ti be cotifine I to the towns themsAves, or to the
electoral divisions, but thrown on some more extensive dis-
tricts than even theunions.

After a few worth from the Earl of MOUNTCAIIIIEL,
The Earl of RODEN said he was quite willing to leave
the bill as it was, as he had perfect e.oufidence in the noble
lord, the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, and would have no
objection to leave the details to his discretion. Nevertheless
be was not sorry. that the bill was to be postponed till to.
morrow. The spirit of the measure of the government wee,
that Ireland must support her own poor. Why wee it im-
possible that the property of Ireland could support her
own poor? Because the amount of-the incomes of the land-
lords was overrated, for ninny of them who bad rent-rolls of
10,0001. a year, only rceeived 2,0001.; and they would
be taxed according to their nominal, and not
their real incauses. (Hear, hear.) Unless, therefore, the
measure for enabling the possessors of property to sell,
in order to redeem their mortgages, was carried out, all the
rut would be nugatory. He thought the rating for pauper-
ism in towns should be thrown on the unions when the towns
were small, but when they were large it should be taken
from the county generally. He thought the government
deserved the greatest praise fur their conduct in this trying
emergency.
the Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the conversation
which had taken place had reference more to a measure
which would come on hereafter than to that before the house,
but he was not inclined to quarrel with such a proceeding,
as it often produced suggestiorus which might be takes ad-
vantage of before the measures were brought forward. He
had often stated in these discussion that the question whether
rating should be cast on the unions or the electoral divisions
was an open question for future discussion. There were
objections to the rating of electoral dirisioue for large towns,
which he hoped might be got over before the measure was
paned. The aulmitution of the unions for electoral divisions
was confined to the present bill, and did not repeal the
clause in the Poor-law Bill which had been introduced by
the noble duke (Wellington), and this new principle of
taxation was intended only to apply to out-dour relief, which
was to be given only in food. He regretted that this bill
should pass, unaccompanied by some of those other measures
intended for the relief of the poor, as by giving employment
they would relieve the premium of taxation.
After a few worth from the Marquis of WESTMEATH,
the debate on the third reading of the bill was adjoarned till
to-morrow (this day).
Their lordships then adjourned at haV-past six.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—MONDAT, Fan. 22.

The SP EA IL RR took the chair at four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINES&

SECOND READINGS.—Airdrie and Bathed, Instilna Railway
nuenelniest and dirdation), Ambergate, Natdallase. awl Bolton,
and Easters lamina Railway (alteration of IN lirsolda to
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EXTENSION BILL.
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Sir J. DUKE having moved the second reading of this
bill,
Lord HOTHAM opposed it, on the ground that the pro-
moters had been guilty of a gross breach of faith with Earl
Mimeos. They had agreed, last year, that if Earl Manvers
would not oppose their main line, they would run it north
of the River Trete, and cut through has estate only in such
way as the noble earl approved, making their cuttings or-
namental and picturesque. Having obtained that bill, they
now proposed this extension of their line, with a view to
carry their railway south of the Trent, and through the very
part of Earl Manse's property which he objected to their
passing over. He moved that the bill be read a second time
that day Rix months.
Mr. -PLUMTRE Raid, he had been informed that there
was no breach of faith whatever, ioasmnch as no contract
had been entered into ; and
Sir J. DUKE said, he was the last man in the world
to justify a breach of faith, and if the facts, as stated by
the noble lord, could be proved before the committee, he
would be no party to carrying the measure any farther.
He hoped, however, this bill would be allowed to pass this
staThe gallery was cleared for a division, but Lone took
place. On our return
Sir J. DUKE was on his legs. He consented to postpone
the bill till that day week.
WESTMINSTER BRIDGE.

In answer to Sir Da Lacy EVANS,
Viscount MOItPETII atated that he had informed the
commiuionen for metropolitan improvements that govern-
ment wan cot prepared to make to parliament any propoition
for building a new bridge at Charing CIVIL Upon this the
commissioners had come to the decision that it war expedient
to have a new bridge at or near the site of the present
Westminster-bridge. As, however, the old bridge had been
rendered better adapted to public traffic, a constant watch
being kept as to its security-4A laugh)—as there was a
project for a new bridge front the Horscferry-road, and ma,
above all, the finances of the country would not at present
admit of additional draught. upon them, the government
was not prepared to make any proposition this year for
erecting a new bridge in pIR ow o
SCHOOLS.f Westminstcr-bridge.
MILITAY
In answer to Sir Di LACY Evens,
Mr. F. MAULS stated that be was ready to lay before

Mr. P. HOWARD asked whether the noble sierount
would object to lay on the table of the house any official
copy ho might have received of the Constitution which the
enlightened monarch of Prussia had granted to his people.
Viscount PALMERSTON said that a copy of the Consti-
tution in question certainly formed an envelope in a despatch
received from our minister at Berlin, and the hour., if it
thought fit, might address her Majesty for its production,
hut as it was quite unusual to lay on the table of that house
documents relating entirely to the internal organisation of
another country, he would suggest to his hoe. friend not to
press his question.
PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND).
Viscount CLEMENTS asked whether government had
taken any, and what steps, to order the accounts of the dif-
ferent baronies in Ireland, relating to public works.
Mr. LABOUCHERE replied that he would institute an
enqu'ry on the point.
DUTIES ON ENGLISH MANUFACTURES.

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Mr. FINCU ebbed the Vice-President of the Board of
Trade whether there was any immediate prospect of the
free admissi.m of British manufactures into the Pruotan do-
minions, or into the States comprehended in the Zollverein.
Mr. M. GIBSON replied, that, on the contrary, the duty
on British 'foods had been augmented in thsv-e states. In
other continental states, however, these duties had been
diminished.
FOREIGN EXPORTATION OF CORN

Mr. WAWN asked whether the government bad re-
ceived any communication from Sc. Pe enburg relating to
the alleged prohibition to export corn from the empire ?
Viscount PALMERSTON said that his latest information
from our minister at the Miamian court led to a totally different
largo exportations were ciskoslotod area.
IRELAND.