The Express.
London, England, 1848-08-01 00:00:00

POLICE IN IRELAND.

Lord CASTLificliiill inquired it the government had
received any confirmation of the reports in that day's my( r
of a collision having taken place between the people and her
kl ai est% 's troops ?
Sir G. GREY said he had not received any letter on the
subject; but he had reuived a telegraphic communication
from the Mayor of Liverpool, sent him by the Lord
Lieutenant. stating that a coliislon had taken place between
a body of the constabulary and the insurgents, the latter
having been dispersed with a few killed, and without any
loss to the police. But no portion of her Majesty's forces
were engaged in the contest which took place at Kticooly, in
the county Tipperary. It also stated that Col. hlt Donnell.
with a body of troops, was close in pursuit of Mr. Smith
O'Brien. It did not mention the names of those who
were killed ; and he (Sir G. Grey) knew nothing of the
(sortie .lars.
BURIAL OF THE DEAD IN TOWNS.

Lord MORPETII stated (in reply to a question from Mr.
Unon KA KT respecting the churchyard in Sr. Martin's perish )
that it was his retention next session to introduce a bill for
the discouragement of interment within the wall. of large
towns. He must add, however, that he had no hope of the
measure eucceeding, unless both parties abated much of
their present opinions on the subject.
SUGAR DUTIES.
The house having resolved itself min a committee,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUEIL rose to
move resolutions with the view of correcting the inaccura-
cies of hie former budget, the principal alteration being the
' consolidation of double and single ri lined sugars, and the
substitution of one duty upon all refined segue. The
right hon. gentleman explained at some length (indistinctly
and amidst much noise) his reasons for not admitting
sugar refined in bond for home consumption—obsery ng that
this decision had been arrived at utter much investigation
' and with the consent cf the refiners. The first resolution
was then put from the chair, namely, that on cattily, brown
or white refined sugar, or sugar rendered by env process
equal in quality thereto, from and rater the 10th July, 1848,
to 9th July, 1849, inclusive, the duty shall be 17r. 4d. lon
every cwt. 1
Mr. BARELY expressed his astonishment at the an-
nouncement of the right hon. gentleman, that he should have
abandoned the idea which had been so lour held out to the I
West India interest, of admitting sugar refined is bond. That
interest could henceforth place no confidence in any declara-
tion of the kiwi.
Nine ARDWELL, on behalf of the Liverpool sugar refiner.,
protested against the vacillation which characterised the pro-
ceedings of the government with reit ird to the Sugar Duties
generally ; and particularly at reloaded their withdrawal of
a measure at the eleventh hour, which had been promised to
his constituents at an early period.
Mr. LABOUCHERE denied that any such expectation
had been held out ; though he admitted that such an ar
raneement would bs highly desirable ; each, however, were
the difficulties which stood in the way of car king it into
effect, that the government had most reluctantly abandoned
the attempt for the present.
Sir W. CLAY said, that the sugar to liners of London,
who form. d a I urge portion of the auger refiners of England,
were not disappointed, inasmuch as they did not think that.
this measure, if carried, would remedy their grievances.
After some further conversation,
Mr. DARKLY proposed an amendment, with regard to
including cane.juice far censumptinti :n this country, which
he withdrew after some diecusai. e.
Lord U. BENTINCK said that he would now come to the
first part of hie amendment, which was the exclusion of the
words"and on all sugar or molests( a not otherwise charged evicts
duty" in the heading of schedule 3, reJarding the duties on
for. ign sugar. Whilst he could not approve of the pros*s il-
ince tit her Majesty's government on this matt. r, he could
not help admiring the d, Inninairtd,' with which the Chancellor
of the Exchequer came down to the bowie, and announceol
that he wan going to disappoint the planters of the West
Indies and the alsuritius, by withholding the great boon
which he had promised, and f.r the very light and trivial
way in which he passed over ma • few inaccuracies that which
wu really a pl. a of guilty to tae tl.ree and twenty rousts
which he (Lord 0. Bentinel) brougat against him some day.
ago, alluring made three and twer.ty blunders in these r soh'.
tient, and of having made two other blunders last week in at-
tempting to cure some of the blunders be had already made.
(Cheers and laughter.) As he find passed so lightly over
thin matte:, he (Loro G. Bentitick) wok leave to inform the
house that the ministry presented an extraordin-ry spectacle
in coming down to the house, after seven weeks' conablera-
tion atheists resolution., with '23 blunders in them. It was
promised that the duties on British double-relined sugar
should he reduced from 19a. 6.1. per cwt. to 183., and on
siogle rain. d sugar from 16e. 4.i. to 15.. That boon w.. 11
nothing at all, if it woe not actionpanied by the usu once
that the British colonies should be permitted to in
bond. On their behalf he hail rist nin his place in the house
end expressed his satisfaction with the announcement of the
, hon. gentleman. He complained that this m. sauce hoot been so
long in the contitleration of the government; and it was not
till the '2l3th of July, as admitted by the Chancellor of the Ee-
-1

chrquer, that the governor, nt tionight tit to emmutt the
chairman of the Customs and the clansman of Excise (tr, ar,
hear) as to whether th ‘ir princpsl mentions for assisting She
British planters could or could nut be practically carried out.
There never yet WWI seta such a spectacle of ministers
mooing down le rfeetly incupible of carrying on the Maoism
of the house. What must be the feeling at the trade in this
country, when th•.•y saw a ministry, who, without consulting
the proper autLerities, came down to the house rroposing a
measure containing. as he had before stated, a quar-
ter of a hundred mistakes? He was in hopes that the

government were about to give the 13 ' h planters com-
pensation. Now, as to the question of sugar imported from
the continent of Europe by toe late act, there wan a perma-
nent duty of three guineas on double and tingle sugar Irmo
those countries of which it was neither the growth nor the
produce. There was a duty of tw . guineas on muscovado
imported from countries of which it was not the produce,
and ltd. on molasses. The government, ,t seemed.
diinmered a difficulty with regard to Dutch duties which
they did not lei -1 in the month of May List, and he must
ray t tat a more idle pretence for admitting Dutch sugar
by an alteration in the duties could Out be adiluei d
than that which was brought forword by the government.
The noble lord then quoted the Dutch treaty, and coati nded
that its terms justilii d the amendment be now proposed.
From the best information he could obtain the Dutch go-

vernment in 1817 levied 117,0001. of duties on raw sug—ar,

and gave back as bounties 145,0901. on export sugar, being
about 31. per cwt. While in Holland the difference in pries
between raw and refined sugar was about Is. lid. only, in
this country i. was lls. or 12s. This proved the existence of
some government bounty to the Dutch refiners. By a letter
from Lord Howard de IValden, he learnt that the de lade
bounty given on sugar refined in Belgium was 60,0001. a
leer. In the amendment he proposed he had rather cheeen
I.llow the o:d act than the new seladula pro-
posed by ministers • and he confidently looked for the
supp.dt of the thirty six members of the Anti-Corn-
law League, who lied voted against any alteration in
the act of 1846. Lest government should interpose
fears ax to the loss of revenue, he would remind the house
bow mistaken they had been in their calculations as to the
prob.ble receipts. He found that there had been entered
for consumption at the five pri lapel ports, in the 29 weeks
of the present year, 166,152 loci ; while in the corresponding
p. Hod of last year, the en'ry was only i 43,318 tons. Allow-
ing for the other smaller ports, the entry had probably been
188,583 tone, against 162,6.55 tons in the preceding year ;
being an increase of 25 928 tons. Making all due afl,wance
for toe increased quantity taken out of bend at the beginning
of the present month, and which could not account for the
whole of this increase, it was evident that the uhaneellor of
the Exchequer might calculate on a much larger consump-
tion than he had ventured to do.

Mr. LABOUCRERE said there was only one point in tne
noble lord'e speech to which he need allude—the conduct o
the government in reference to the Dutch treaty. The go-
vernment had hold themselves bound to admit Dutch refined
sugar on the name terms as sugar th, produce of their
cobs ins. Had this principle been denied, the whole of our
cotton told silk munteactur rs would hay., been excluded
from enantries where they were now admitted under the
"most favoured ration" clause. It was true there were
some instances in which the letter, rather than the spirit, of
that principle had been departed from. One was the case of
the Channel Islands, recently cited by the right hon. gentle-
' man opposite (Mr. Oladatone). In that case, the Channel
I Islands having the privilege of sending their produce here
entirely free from duty, an attempt was made, by setting up
manufactories there, to throw into this country a quantity of
foreign sugar, to the manifest injury of our colonies, and of
our own merchants. Against such a frauduleat course an
enactment wee very properly paused, to prevent the privi-
leges of the Channel Islands einc thus abused. But in the
case to which the noble lord alluded, no such objection could
aptly-
r. GOULBURN raid that, throughout the whole of the
Lill, the government subjected the colonies themselves to the
very inconvenience which they insisted ought not to be
thrust upon foreign countries, by confining the sugars to be
imported to those which were redly the produce of the
colonies.

Mr. WILSON said there was a clear distinction between
the cases reternd to. Sugars the produce of the colonies
were admitted to this country at a lower duty than those of
foreign nations; and hence the importance of protecting the
colonists against the fraudub nt importation of Cuba or other
sugar as the produce of our own colonies. After lod4, when
the duties were equalised, the distinction would become ma-
terial. As to the Dutch law of bounty, its operation was
extremely difficult to under.tand. So ter from its being an
advantage last veer, a large Dutch refiner had objected to it,
and said that it was injurious to the refiners, who
would much prefer the permission to refine in bond.
Out of every 100 kilogrammes of sugar imported, the Dutch
refiners were allowed to sell GO kilogrammes in the refined
state, the remainder being take.' for home consumption.
Dunce, it became a matter of nice calculation with tho Dutch
refiners to carry their operations jug to that point at which
they obtained the greatest profit • for if they overstocked the
home market, and caused the pricei to fall, their bounty was