The Express.
London, England, 1848-08-17 00:00:00

IMI'EItIAL I'ARLIAMEN't.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDNESDAY, At*. 16.
The arzhasa took the chair at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
=RD READlNO..—E..woctl'a (or Alderson's) Estate Bill'
PUBLIC BUSINES.,.

FIRST RF.ADlNO.—Unlawful ROCieließ (Ireland) Bill.
CUM MIT:ITV-- Metropolitan Comniirsions of Sewers Bill.
THIRD It EADlNGS.—alilitia l'ay ; Out Pensioners; Patonhial
Debt and Audit; Sheep, Ste. Importation Prohibition; Tithe Bad
Charm. he. (Ireland, No. 2) ; Bu 11.
PY:TITIONS.—By Sir It. INGLIS, from Toughal, praying that the
bonne would &Mani it to be an net of high Heaton to agitate
question
the of the repeal of the union by open or-
ganisations or confederatima; alto a: petition from a place
Warwiclothiro ogainst the support given to the temple
of loggertmut. Mr. HENLEY, from Cornwall, siruhist the
reduction of the duties on copper and lead.—Mr. LOCKHART, from a
place in Scotland. against the Scotch Marriage and Registration Bill.
—Lord A. from Brighton, In forum of vote by banot.—
Kr. DUNCHNIIIR, from a place in Yorkshire, against the sale of
Writ% on Suntraps; also for an amendment of the poor law.—Mr.
'lump:, from men of re enco in London, praying foe an alteration of
the law relating to palclita
SOLDIERS' WIVES.

In reply to Major Brownian.,
Mr. F. MAULE said that the question of providicsr sept-
ette accommodation for married soldiers in barracks had for
some time been under the consideration of the government.
As far as possible the practice of keeping the married soldier
in the same room with the unmarried had been corrected, by
placing the tormer in a room by themselves, but even that
was still a very great nuisance. The subject of taking married
soldiers out of barracks altogether was under the considera-
tion of government, and he trusted that me long they would
be able to make sonic arramtementin that respe
NATIONAL LAND COMPANY.
Mr. G. THOMPSON, on the part of the hon. member
for Itlacnestield, asked the hon. member for Nottingham
wheth. r he intended to withdraw his Friendly Societies Bill
for the present session ' • whether he intei deal to take any
further steps with regard to a registration of the National
Land Compact> ; and whether ha purposed to give to the
present allottees any title to the allotments which they now
hold under the rules and regulati ins of the company, and,
if rot, what course he intended to take in reference to
those allottees ?
Mr. F. O'CONNOR sale, if the hon. member for Mercies-
field had read the oiler hook of the hawse, or the pr ,ceedings
in the committee, or the resolutions of the committee, he
would have had an answer to his first questien. From the
evidence of Mr. Laws, the barrister, he would find that no
bill could have been introduced by him I Mr. O'Connor) which
would answer the purpon ain view. To the second question
his answer was, that if the hon. member hair consulted the
same authornies, and lead the evidence of Mr. Lows, Mr.
Tidd Pratt, and others, he would have known than. it wro
impossib'e to take further steps with regard to registration.
To the third question his answer was "YI s." lie (Mr.
O'Connor) was now engaged in using his utmost endeavours
for the purpose of divesting the National Land Company of
every feature of illegality ; and he would add, that it was his
intention to effect the enrolment of the company as a benefit
society, because he considered it the ri adicst mode of obtain-
ing the object foe which it was established.
ANNUITY TAN..
Mr. HUME, is reference to the dropped order respecting
the 5 per cent. tax iii Edinburgh, known as the annuity tax,
said, as he understood toe goverment were disposed to take
the subject into their consideration during the recess, he
theuld not then press it to their embarrassment. If the noble
lord at the head of the ministry would give him an assurance
that such consideration would be given to that question he
bad no objection to withdraw his notice of motion.
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that a gentle-
man should be sent to Edinburgh to make inquiry, and that
neat session he would be quite ready to state what was in
tended to be done in the matter by the government.
NORTH WESTERN RAILWAY.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR asked the hon. and learned Attorney
General whether, in consequence of the dispute which had
arisen between the managers of the North V. estern Railway
and the drivers otenhe lire, those persons who had previously
takes. season tickets on that line, and who had, since the dis-
pute in question procoeued to their respective destatious
by posting or otherwise, m
erwise, had any remedy against the com-
pany, or any redress, or guarantee for redeem, for being com-
pelled, either through personal dread or coition, to place
theurielvcs in that situation?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said—My answer to that
question, given on the moment, would necessarily be un-
satisfactory. More than that, it might be positively inju-
rious. To give an answer officially would require great titre ;
to give it profeseienally would require greater. (Laughter.)
SHEEP IMPORTATION (PROHIBITION).
On the ne tion for the third reading of the Sheep Impor-
tation (Prohibition) Bra being moved,
Lord G. 13ENTINCK said it was not often he had
ground to congratulate the government or the Board of
Trade for their acts; but he considered it would be un-
generous, especially as he was depu:ed to do so by others,
not to tender them his own thanks, and those of the farmers
of the country, for the first retrograde step made in the
matter of free trade. (Laughter.) When mutton was
7d. per pored in this country the government had
admitted the sheep of Germ toy free of duty fir the be-
nefit of the poor of the country ,• and some hundred or
hundred and twerdy thousand had been imported m-
orainal), in the course of 21 months, that was to my,
about four day,' supply to Smithfield market. Yet now, in
the second year of freo trade, her hlajesty'e government was
obliged to come forward with the first measure of prohibi-
t Om. And why ? Simply because that " great bean" had
been the means of importing into this country a foul,
fatal, and contagious disease among that class of
animals. Ile (Lord G. Deanna) admired and applauded
the courage of the ri„ht hon. gentleman in coming forward
on the present occasion to save the farmers of this country
from further loss through the ravages of the various ovum.
He could only say that he hoped the present measure
would not be the last step in the direction of protection.
Mr. LABOUCHERE—Any compliments from the noble
lord to the department over which he had the honour to
preside were so rare, that they sounded agreeably to his
ears; and if he could honestly accept them be should be very
glad. He could not say that he slowed any courage in de-
parting from the principles of free trade, as asserted by the
noble lord, for he was ignorant that precautions against
diseased articles, calculated to spread contagion, had any-
thing to do with free trade. The general impression among
our consuls was that the only real way of checking the pro.
gems of the disease was by inoculation. Every other way
was ineffectual.
Mr. HUMS said there was no retrocession from free-trade
principles in the present measure. He was, however, at a
lass to know how the present measure was to be carried out
so as to prevent diseased animals from coming into the
kingdom.
fur. LAL'OUCHERE replied, by means of the ordinary
Custom-house officers. There was another bill which gave
the means of remedying mischief from tainted sheep Icing
brought into the marget by graziers and others.
The bal was then read • third time and paned.
SUPPLY—WAYS AND MEANS.
Lord J. RUSSELL gave notice that every Monday, Wed-
nesday, and Friday he should move that the house resolve
itself into a committee of supply at 12 o'clock.
THE GRANT TO Slit C. TREVELYAN.
Mr. SPOONER wished to ask a question with respect to
the vote of 2 5001. to Sir C. Tinvelyan as to what took place
whet: the hon. member for Middlesex brought the matter
forward. The noble krd (Lord J. Russell) told the hon.
gentleman that it was not the right time to bring the subject
forward, that it ought to ha deferred until the vote for civil
contingencies was proposed, and it was, therefore, expected
that the discussion would be then raised, He was prepared
to vote with the hen. member for Middlesex, not because he
doubted that Sir C. Trevelyan had rendered great and im-
portant services, but becauso he considered, on broad and
intelligible and constitutional grounds, that no minister
ought to grant any sum of money out of the civil contin-
genciea unless with the sanction of parliament. Ile had
looked over the civil contingencies and could find no sum of
2,5001. to Sir C. Trevelyan mentioned. If the money had
been paid without any sufficient explanation to the house ho
hoped the ton. member for Middlesex would bring forward
a vote of censure on the gee ernment.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, his recollection of what passed
differed materially from that of the hon. member. He cer-
tainly had not objected to the hon. member for Middlesex
raising the discussion at the time: that objection was made
by other hon. members and not by him. It was a mistake
therefore for the hon. m..mber to say that he stopped the dis
cession that it might he taken on the vote for civil contin-
gencies. There were two questions discussed—the first was,
whether it was proper to give any reward or gratuity to a
permanent public servo it for extra services performed.
Urn that question he held a decided opinion that it
was tight to give a • gratuity to the honourable
gentlemen the Assistant Secretary of the Trea-
sury. He would add that since the matter had been
debated, Sir C. Trevelyan, thinking that itoubts had been
thrown by the house en the propriety of the grant, had ex-
pressed an earnest wish to repay into the Exchequer the
whole of the money, 2,500/., he had received. His answer
war, that he was fully cortviin eel of the services he (Sir C.
Trevelyan) had performed ; that he believed the sense of the
house was in accordance with his opinion, and he could by
no means consent that any repayment should take place.
There was another question ns to the mode of payment—
whether by. a separate vote, or by a sum out of the civil
contingencies. He had then stated that this was a fair
ma ter of doubt, but if the honourable member thought
that, instead of being a matter of doubt, it was
so clear that it merited a vote of censure, he
certainly was at liberty to bring such a motion forward.
A GYM of 1600001. was aenuallywoted, in order to cover
what 1(11 short in the sums voted for other objects;
and that sum was supposed by the house to be expended in
casualties and incidental rep uses; arid it was for the govern-
ment to say—they might be perfectly wrong in their mon
nioe—but it was for them to say in each case whether the
matter was one that should rune under the consideration of
the house. If the hon. gentleman thought fit to bring for-
ward a formal resolution of censure on the government, that
was a perfectly constitntional course, and one which it was
competent to him to take.
Mr. OSBORNE said that he should mere the disallow-
ance of the whole vote when the item of civil contingencies
mane heOire the house.
Mr. UItQUHART announced that he should not bring
fora: ril his amendment on the motion for the Speaker to
leave the choir.
Mr. ANSTEY ranee a similar
Speaker then left the chair.
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY—MISCELLANEOUS
ESTIMATES—AFFAIRS OF ITALY.
The house having gore into committee, Mr. BERNAL in
the chair, and a vote b. ing proposed of 72,5001. for the sala-
ries and expense of the Foreign-office,
Mr.. DISRAELI said, that whatever disposition there
saiglit have been to indulge in debate, very little discus: ion
had LILOII place during WO 0e340111 on foreign affairs. Only