The Express.
London, England, 1862-04-30 00:00:00

SUPPLY.

The report of supply was then brought up and read.
On the vote of 310,000'. to defray the charges of convict
establishments at home being brought up,
Mr. SELWYN said that this vote included an item
which involved a principle of great importance, he meant
the sent of MC for special services in prisons, ma provision
fir the religious instruction of convicts of the Roman
maths memasion, which was discussed last night in • very
thin beam Eight years sgo, in a very full bowie, this very
ewe had been rejected by a majority of 32. He should
conclude by moving the reduction of the vote by this
amount, but if any member of the government or
bon. member felt taken by surprise at the motion,
be Amid be happy to consent to the postponement of the
diseethem. The simple question which was asked on the
preview eeessiou, and which was never answered, wax—
era's what principle ma you carry a vote for payment of
them Roman catholic priests without at the same time ex.
tending your bounty to clergy of other denominations No
explanatiou of this point was given on the forma ocoanion,
or bad bee• assigned by the right boo. baronet (Sir o.=
He was the last person to give any offence to Roman
lie, bet be thought the house had a right to know upon
whet nd this vote, which was then rejected, was sow
forward without any explanation being offered.
He brewed to move the reduction of the vote by 5101.
Mr. HALLEY said that this vote, if carried, would
he made • pretext far still further endowments of the
Roman esthetic church.

r, May

Ili. HAMMEDWM the honourable ea& lerweed mew
le. NI
her that hi Pisd ant quote lb. wwisferiliii Sown DUSOM, Pirebeacon Lincolnshire, innkeeper, Mayl4, at 12.
41 elPee"ata 4 state bounty, sad it that an" hie frown gewow, Oleutham, Uncolushire, innkeeper, May 14,
only objection, he might withdraw his eloped- ma IL
ties to the ore. I 'is oI e the church they could Wthaum Mont MICE Nome, Liverpool, music dealer, May 1 I,at 11.
era apes ezZ4. holding what they bad got, and intuit- DAVID teals. cringoed, Montgomeryshire, farmer, May It at I%
beg sad el the nonconformist body. gull he WILLIAM Ouvita (Mar, Liverpool, attorney, May li, at 13
&sold vote &greet this 5:30/-(hear, hear)Zbenanee be tilkoira: "A`litZar!stron; lAncasihri,gentrlr,;,,tl,l%.,“ 11.
theaglit it wee one of the last acts of Christianity to tar WILLIAM Stuart Low Teams, lim:hani, builder,-Mity 15, at It
*V member of the date for the support of a religion which 0100411 1031110 and ALL Memo, NewaisGeupon-'Tyne,
ble Ilia not approve. drapers, May 15, at 124.
Mr 0. °REY rid that it was quite tree that a similar Manly MIRSoII, ben., Birmingham, fishmonger's assistant, May
vote to the precut bad been rejected in 144. He regretted lin at It
that declaim, because he did not think that Roman catholic Luton Gnomon ELL 111011•11. Blminghem, letter carrier, May
prisoners oought to he deprived of all moms of moral and la at 10.
SAMMIL Mona, Birmingham, licensed victualler, May 26, at 10.
religious instruction, except what they might receive from 3015 MAIM, Ilawisworth, Staffordshire, commisMon agent.
the casual visits of the clergy,wbo frequently resided at a May V, at 10.
distance sometimes of 12 rot es from the proms. Time Mammas inerroce, Deritend, Warwickshire, scrap iron dealer,
prisoners were not fres to go in search of inerneties frees May La, at 10.
their piston, aid therefore be thought it wee the hard= 100 o..!oormr, doittlnt=relrtiat co 9111,4: May 21, at 10.
duty of the exits to afford them the mesas at Healbelays.ita,":,,,,,r beerp. 1,,,,,,, Nam as g.
obtaining that mina' and religions eerie end Tetouan THOM, Sheffield, publican. May ik ola n
teaching which they required. (Hear, bear.) N• Jong Cannon, Sheffield, picture Mame maker, May e, at 2.
lees than 14 or 15 per cent. of the persona in the cuivkit Guam lialumie, thopton-opon-Mull, 000per,May 7, U 11.
prisons of England were of the Roman catholic rii; WILLIAM Willa? liQuar. Kia3l4oo-repofrliall. nonatenon
many of them were natives of Ireland who came over Mlm agent,
rev' at 12.
Tereus Gravesend, dealer in gunpowder, May 7, at 11.
There were as many as 200 such convicts ia Wen at °lair Janie Aanrraoa. Dewsbury,Yorkshire, gear maker, May 23, Ult.
prisons, and he bad been repeatedly pressed to make prod. ajoaa, Po War use, Wakefield, -fruit salesman, May 13,
@ions for their religious instruction. He did sot think It mg at .
all necessary to enter into a theological contameny as I. Join' Co2Lo. Manchester, be/metier, May 12, at 01.
the tenets of the Roman catholic church in order to erring DAVID ORORDT„ Manchester, stationer, May Is, at 04.
/MYR Kametsr, Newton Meath, near Manchester, provision
at • decision on this question. He was astonished to bear dealer. May 13, &till.
the honourable and leaped member for atm-
. Malik, ffnOWl3ll, Sheffield, heeler, May 13, at 91.
bridge say that this was a new principle, when Joint PRASOLLif, Conley, Wittahire, buicher, May A, ab 1.
the fact was that for a considerable period MICIARD MATILUI, Resident, Montgomeryshire, tamer, May
Roman catholic chaplains were paid in Ireland. But the 24. et 12.
fact was hoe. gentlemen who opposed this vote dared not MoORR WALRUS POLLMT and THOMAS Roots, Bolton, lance-
shire tronfounders, May 10. at 10.
carry out their own principle' in the case of lielaed,where MERRY' liortruir Peterborough, fruiterer, May 10, at 10.
the vast majority of the people were Roman catholic*. 1 liAlicis Stumm:ix, Lowestoft. Suffolk, butcher, May 12, at 2.
They were obliged to make provision for the Roman I3AadARRY Gotha= Melon?, Evertumnied, near Slanthaiffer,
catholic chaplains of prisons there. There were in that 1 late schoolmistress, May 15, at 10.
country epimcopalian chaplains far opiacopalissa aadyrasby. i lone PAcemi, Cold Aston, Gloucestershire, beersalter, May 13,
terian chaplains for the presbytertane. Moreover they • at In .
Wilms, Preston, late innkeeper, 'May 17,at 10.
could loot den and dared not deny to the Roman .1270AZAAlio noo I: Preston, lodging-house keeper, May 17, at 10.
catholic soldiers of the army lb. ministration of clergymen Ham, Kinn,. iveatbary. Wu", grocer, May .7, at 11.
of their own faith. (Hear, bear.) The gentlemen who NWT CSM. Lftedport, ilium, coach painter, May 13 at 11.
objected to this vote never raised their voice, against the ROM AMMO& MLIJAMIS, Portsmouth, letter carrier, May 12,
Roman catholic chaplains of the army, but the Arita. at lagi
Mole wee the same in that are as in the I2aMIMO
Y 013 W rosunttroreptou,rboufker ;I•3lpailti,ttar-
present. If a Roman catholic soldier committed JAMMS Toourion, Maifivv, Yorkshire, veterinary surgeon. May
au offence for which he was sent to a military prison, Is at 10.
the state made full provision for his moral and religious in. frown EDWARD Gnat, Heating', watchmaker, May 10, at 11.
striiction by a clergy man of his own faith. But if he me lone JANIS HAMM, Cheatham, Lancashire, foreman to an up-
sentenced to penal servitude then the state bad not hereto- bolsterer. MAY 10. at 10.
fore allowed the expenditure of one shilling for hie instrito. . Blair Piciammi, Lower Broughton, Lancashire, clerk, May 10,
Lion. This &mowed to him to bentterleinconsistect. He wu wat 10.
llatAll MlOll3 ZOOM, Stretford, near Manchester, Weft-
gratified that last night not • voice he'd been raised against ^ h 0...... mg io. 56 10.
this rote .rapt that of his Mom friend the member for 0110f011 MOPLIPB, Stanton Drew, Soromeetshire, miller, May 12.
Peterborough-(laugliter)-ead he was in hopes that the ' at 12.
vote would he allowed to pun without further COD. Daoms Donovan. Merthyr Tydfil, beerhoses keeper, May
troveny. With regard to the remarks of the hon. . ..102__16.,2_._ Stoke,
Staffordshire, pork butcher. May 1L at 11.
member for Shefdeld, be was not aware that lanZar=weiii,,,n,.„,,„gare, butcher, May 11, M 13.
there worsen,' protestant directing primmer" who objected WILLIAM TAYLOR, Metheringham, Linear:4l)lre. taller, May IS
to the misietration of the church of England clergy. If at it
erZeMese of that li kill was brought under his notice, he JOHN Leos Wellston., Leicestershire, wheelwright,May 14, at 12.
• Is happy to bium up a aupplenteatal estimate fbr &Armin FRAIIRLUI and SLllialffn GLOW, Gawky, Salop, boot.
the Mint of all dissenting chaplains. ("No, no," from • makers, May 10, at It
Kr. ) He believed that if they did pat, as a per I LA/IT zumnriamn.
tercet eacetry, show themselves willing to give others ' Hay Ite. I. Bailer, Aeli. Surly, tarmer-My W. 3. N. Chia-
equal privileges with themselves, their influence abroad tenger, Upper Cleveland-etre" riendAntrez oantego.in
pianoforte maker-MAY 12. H. C ad O. O.
would be weakened. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. WHALLEY explained that he did not object to the iPteileOtrdand -street Tt"td
t, Elmrelloo%PtannosoPlar, at 111Wm"Mite:a
rote on the ground of the religious doctrines of the itoomn W. A. Pajne. Grist ilmmetteetat ......_,...Alblesetaramekblk,„ tr ._
catholic*, but becalms the canoe law by which the Roman • May 21. Ir• Je"..... (51a41.411"84. T..'=""---'ismetairj prlhHe
catholic. were booed was imentsiatent with the civil juts- 1 nrtalliar -"ay ''' - ....pli-dpanaNsek, -W a Me
radars of this wintry.
Mr. NEWIHRIATII said that the arguments of the AA' company-Mown...T.
Adam-street ,t ',della!, - IL W. fitimalt
hoe...risme& would justify the establishment of the Ream,-"-.
i tniti matorgeitherPri, Sknybornece Athiriwydail, otel N
oaths& Miura in this sountry, brawn what be stated iti'. lady istasol,poas-Asg3ll6 MliZee.