The Express.
London, England, 1851-02-06 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 6, 1851.

Sir H. WILLOUGHBY could not concur in the moths;
but thought, nevertheless, that no new matter should be
brought on alter 12 o'clock.
Mr. ANSTRY said that some measures depended for nie-
cea on the chance of being passed after midnight. lie had
supported the previous motion because ha thought it es-
oeedingly improper that any of the public money should be
voted away after 12 o'clock at night. Bat, on the other
hand, measures of great public importance mightbe thrown
over if the rule were applied to everything. One of the
most important measures of last session passed through the
house at 2 o'clock—lse alluded, of course, to the Engines for
taking Fish Bill. (A laugh.)
Mr. SPOONER supported the motion.
Mr. J. REYNOLDS took a similar course, thinking that
most of the jobs were perpetrated in the small hours of the
night. The house divided—
For the motion
Against it
THE ADDRESS.

The Marquis of KILDARE brought up the report on the
addreas.

Lord D. STUART raid that not having had an op-
portunity of addressing the house on the previous evening,
be wee anxious to say a few words in order that th=
port he gave to the address might not be misund
Although he did not mean to offer any opposition to dist
address, be could not join its expression of satisfaction
with respect to foreign affairs. lie was, of course, well
pleased to find that we were at peace with 01l nations, but
at the same time he should have wished to hear something
more from the government respecting the manner in which
the influence of this country on the continent of Europu
had been preserved. In the speech of the previous year,
he had seen a remarkable paragraph relating to
certain differences that had occurred among the great
powers in the cast of Europe, and the manner in which
those differences had been accommodated through the

friendly offices of her Majesty's government. The house
was then told that the question relating to certain Hunga-
rian refugees had excited great differences among certain
states in the cast of Europe, and that our government had
interfered with friendly offices; and it was made a matter of
congratulation that the point had been settled in a manner
consentanrous with the dignity and integrity of the Turkish
empire. Now, it had long been the profession of British
governments, whether whig or tory, that they would sup-
port and maintain the integrity of the Turkish empire, and
on the occasion allnded to it was felt that the demands
of the northern courts to have certain refugees delivered
up to their vengeance was a violation of the independence
of the Turkish empire. lie should have been glad had the
present speech told the world that the continued interposi-
tion of our friendly offices had procured for those persons
so unjustly and inhumanly detained something better than
tho interior of an Asiatic fortress for their present abode.
(Hear, hear.) He thought it would have been more cre-
ditable to our government, and more agreeable to the noble
lord the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, who had so often
declared his anxiety on the subject, if he had been able to
come forward and say, " We have not allowed the Turkish
government to be coerced into delivering up these un-
fortunate men, nor have we permitted the Turks to
be forced by Austria to become the jailors of that
government." (Hear, hear.) It would have been most
creditable to the noble lord could he have said, " Kossuth
is no longer detained a prisoner against the law of nations,
and contrary to the avowed desire of this country." (Hear,
hear.) He (Lord D. Stuart) felt the more upon this sub-
ject, because it was very well known that the sovereign of
Turkey had no desire to detain these poor men in captivity,
seeing that they had done nothing against him or his do-
minions. It was notorious that the Turks had no desire to
continue these barbarities, but were compelled and coerced
into doing so by the representations and influence of Austria.
He was anxious before he eat down to say a few words
on the subject usually known as the papal aggression. Now,
although he was as much attached to the protestant church
as any man in the country, he was anxious, while he revs-
renca his own religion, to give to every man the most fall,
free and uninterrupted enjoyment of his peculiar doctrines,
and the full command of all internal religious regulations.
(Hear, hear.) He fully admitted that the Pope's recent
measures had been adopted with little courtesy towards
I the government of this country. He must soy, that
for such a sovereign as the Pope, the weakest in
Europe, supported only by foreign bayonets, to insult the
sovereign of a great country like this, by dividing her terri-
tory into districts, was a gross piece of insolence; and he
rejoiced at the manifestations of protestant feeling which
had taken place in England on account of it. Ile was glad
to ass the protestant feeling of the country ; but that was a
very different thing from interfering with Roman eatholies
in the free exercise of their religion. To resort to penal
laws would be, as the hon. and learned member for Shef-
field had said, a step backwards ; and he fully believed with
that hon. member that the time would come when the
people of this country would be ashamed of the step now
contemplated. (Hear.) Formerly the Pope's power was real,
and there might he some ground of alarm; but now it win a
mere shadow, quite unworthy of the alarm it had created.
He asked, what power did the Pope give by his late edict ?
Did he compel people to goes confession, or to put their hands
in their pockets for his bishops? No, thank God, he might
call spirits from the vasty deep, but they did not come upon
his calling. (A laugh.) Every one was hound to obey the
Pope—just as far as he chose and no farther. (Hear, hear.)
Why, then, this alarm ? For his part, he felt none, lie
believed that truth was great and would prevail, and that
there was no fear of the established church losing its terri- I
tory, its titles, or its revenue. All these things were
grounded in the laws and constitution of the country, and
yet they were startled at the nomination by the Pope of a
few titular bishops, as if it was suddenly to make the
whole country Roman catholic. (Hear.) He had no such ap-
prehension, and, in his opinion, the House of Commons had I
nothing to do with the question. lie did not care how many
bishops were appointed by the Pope. Hewes anxious that in
giving his assent to the address he might not be supposed as
agreeing to the measures which he saw with sorrow were
about to be taken, and which he considered an invasion of
the great principle of toleration, while they would, he be-
lieved, be entirely inoperative for the purpose for which
they were intniduced.
Captain I'.. BENNET expressed regret that no hopes
were held out in the speech of relief to the agricultural in-
terest. He referred in proof of the distress to a circumstanee
that had recently occurred at Eye, in Suffolk, where the
agricultural labourers, to the number of between 300 and
400, marched into the town armedwithclubs and sticks,and
took possession of the workhouse, turning out the master,
and breaking the wards and holding possession untilthey
were forced to surrender by a party of shopkeepers and
townsmen who had been summoned to assist, and by whom
some of the ringleaders had been captured and placed in
prowl for the offence. The rause of this outrage was that the
labourers had been long out of work in consequence of the
inability, of the farmers to provide employment for them.
In that district the last year had been a most ruinous one.
The blight had destroyed, to a great exptnt, the produce
of the land, reducing it from 5 quarters per see which
the farmers bad anticipated from the appearance of the
crops in the spring, to 'l} or 2 quarters per acre. The
effect of this had been to place many men of capital in
such a state of difficulty and distress that they were wholly
unable to employ the labourers on their farms.
The question that the report be rend a second time being
put, and no member of the government rising,
Mr. HUME called the attention of minister, to the ques-
tion which had been put by his noble friend (Lord I).
Stuart) on a matter in which the public out of doors deeply
sympathised, and which last year commanded as much in-
terest out of doors as the papal aggression did now. The
question which his noble friend had put was— why
was the paragraph relating to the Hungarian refu-
gees, and the efforts of her Majesty's government to
ameliorate their condition, omitted from the present speech,
while the cause which had led to its insertion in the speech
of last year still existed ? He thought respect for public
opinion ought to extract from government some explanation,
whether there was any hope for those unfortunate men
who were now, at the instance of Austria and Russia, con-
fined in Turkey. It would be satisfactory also, if the noble
lord would state the number of them.
Viscount PALMERSTON—I can assure my hon. friend
that her Majesty's government were not inattentive to the
subject alluded to. (Hear, hear.) Communications have
been carried on by her Majesty's ambassador at Constanti-
nople with the Turkish Divan, with the view of obtaining
therelease of these persons, but I am sorry to saythat those
efforts have not, as yet, been attended with that success
which we could desire.
Mr. HUME—WiII the noble lord state whether all the
Hungarians who took refuge in Turkey are still detained
there, or whether any have been set of liberty ?
Lord PALMERSTON—I cannot state exactly. The
number sow at Katayah is not so great as it was ; • mini-
derable number, about 700 I believe, who remained at
Shumlah for moms time, have, I understand, lately been
forwarded to Constantinople, but whether to be stationed
at any place in that locality, or for the purpose of their
being sent elsewhere, I cannot say.
The report was *ea agreed to, and the house adjourned
• sum.

at a quarter part

CHILD STEALING BY A FOREIGN COUNT.—About
three weeks ago, a noble lady, a native of and residing in
France, lost her child, a remarkably handsome girl, about
five years and a half old, and heiress to a large fortune,
under circumstances which left no doubt on her mind that
Count —, a German, had got the child into his possession
and had departed with her for London. In a state of great
distraction the mother made the matter known to the Pre-
fect of Police, through whose instrumentality the particu-
lars, with a description of the parties were transmitted to
the authorities in London, who directed Inspector Field, of
the " detectives," to endeavour to trace out the count, and
after about ten days indefatigable exertion, that diligent officer
succeeded in ascertaining that the count WU living with
the girl still in his possession, in a street near the Strand, and
that the sum of 30,000 francs was demanded for the restora-
tion of the child. Mr. Field was not disposed to listen to
any proposal of this kind, and adopted • plan to get pone,-
sion of the child. It was arranged that he in an assumed
name should have an interview with the count in reference
to a bill of exchange at an attorney's office, and both parties
kept the appointment. The inspector at once disclosed who
he was, and that his real object in obtaining the interview
was to obtain possession of the child, and within an bout
afterwards she was in his care, the count haring at once'
volunteered to deliver her up rather than compromise his
friends with whom he was living. Mr. Field subsequently
received instructions to proceed to Prance and deliver up
the child to the authorities, with which instructions he
complied.
SEAMEN'S HoserrAL ON BOARD TAP. DEMI/.
NOCOHE.—At the yearly annual court of this charity, held
yesterday, it was stated that the number of patients re-
ceived into the hospital during the past year was 2,!74, and
the number of out-patients, 1,528. The receipts for 1850
amounted to 8,583/. 14e. 6d., and the expenses to
6,501/. 5. 5.1.; and 2,081/. 9s. Id. had been invested in the
Three-aud-a-Quarter per Cents.