The Express.
London, England, 1848-04-01 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENIIITO, APRIL 1,

the internal management of prisons in the metropolis
for
should be eekibited to the proper authorities of the depart-
ment over which his right hon. friend presided. The cues
stated by the hon. gentleman opposite were of a most into-
lerable nature. (Hear, Dear.)lLY.
Mr. HUME wished to know whether Lord ?dinto was
interfering between Naples and Sicily as an authorised agent
of the government ? As it was important that they should
keep aloof from the suspicion of intermeddling with ether
states, he hoped he should receive a satisfactory answer.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that Lord ?dinto had credentials
to the court of Naples, and, beving been requested by the
King of Naples and his ministers to interpuse the good
offices of this country for the purpose of making terms with
Sicily, Lord /dint°, as the repneentative of an ally of the
King of Naples, thought he could do no less than interpose
in that measure, and he proceeded in a ship of war with such
toms as he thought would be satisfactory to cily.
though he proceeded in a ship of war it was not his intention
to use any force, and he went there merely with a view of
rendering
_a friendly service.
Mr. HUME hoped that as the King of Naples had now
abdicated, his interference would cease.
EVICTIONS IN GALWAY.
Mr. SCROPE said that the subject of which he had given
notice was of sufficient importance to be brought forward
on going Intel committee of supply, but as the subject was
under the consideration of government, and as they intended
to introduce a measure for the purpose of putting an end to
those frightful and shocking evictions which were taking
place in Ireland, he would be content to lea
tve
hat the matter in ,
their hands. It was necessary, however, the
should be speedy and thorough, because ejectments to an
enormous extent were about to take place. There were
6,000 ejectmeuts served in one union alone. The bill should
not be confined to illegal ejectments, because cases of a more
frightful and terrific character took place under the form of
law, as in the case of Wiliam, where 140 families win
turned out of their homes in mid winter by Mr. Walsh,
who was an attorney, and therefore well knew what he was
about. He would, however, leave the matter in the hands
of the government.
Mr. OSBORNE thought the course which the govern-
ment and the hon. gentleman had taken reflected credit on
both parties. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. FRENCH said the conduct of the hon. member far
Stroud was deserving of censure for bringing forward
charges against the Irish landlords, night after night, which
he did net proceed with, so as to give others an opportunity
of answering them. lie could show that his charges had no
foundation in truth.
Mr. REYNOLDS thought the hon. member for Stroud
was deserving of praise, incead of censure, for the urin-
ate in which he took up this question. (Hear, hear.) The
last charge he brought against the Irish Isndlords was
founded on official authority, that of Major M'Kie. (Hear,
hear.) It appeared in the report of the central general
relief committee of Ireland, over which the Marquis of
Kildare presided, that 580 parishes. inclueing one fourth of
the country, had sent returns, which were suhatantiated by
the parochial clergy, and from these returns it appeared
' that up to December, 1817, no less than 36,166 individ
died of actual starvation: 94,007 had died from diseases
caused by bad and Insufficient food ; 68,140 were
that date labouring under disease, and 62,730 had
emigrated. But 90,000 had emigrated to Canada, and of
these the hon. member for Kinsale (Mr. Hawes) ad-
mitted that 13,000 died. If he took the entire of Ireland it
would appear from theestatement that not less than 1,060,000
!mean beings hail been swept off the face of the earth for
want of food. Could the parallel of this melancholy fact
be found in the history of any civilised, or even uncivilised,
nation ? The people of Ireland felt ,hat nothing could make
them worse than they were, and they began to despair of
justice from that house.
Mr. STAFFORD did not think the eroded of the hon.
member for Stroud was open to the criticism of the hon.
member for Ithecommon.
Sir 0. GREY really did hope the house would not
now enter into a general discussion on the state of Ireland
and the Irish poor law. lie believed the poor law—what-
ever might be the difficulties of its operation—had greatly
mitigated the distress existing in Ireland. With regard to
the particular question before the house, he would only say
that the government hid no renson to disbelieve the state-
ment of Major M'Kie. The government felt that sufficient
powers were not given under the law for the protection of
evicted parties, and a measure was under their consideration
with reference to the subject. (Hear, hear.)
Sir H. W. BARRoN said Ireland would be quite satisfied
if they had a bona hde poor law such as they had in England.
Members ran away with the idea that the laws were the
same, but in reality they were materially different. The
Irish law was a palpable failure, and was pauperising a large
proportion of the farmers of the country. With respect to
the evictions complained of, he staked his veracity and expe-
rience that in nineteen cases out of twenty, if the facts were
really sifted, the evidence against the landlords would bresk
dawn. Half the charges were pure falsehoods or gross exag-
gerations.
Sir U. GREY said if the hon. member would inform him
of a single case in which the statements of the blue book
were untrue or exaggerated, he would strictly sift it.
bit H. W. BARRON said it would be impossible for him
to point to cases. Many of the people charged really did
not know that they were accused.
Mr. FAGAN highly eulogised the general conduct of Mr.
P. Scrope. lie thought the gratitude of Ireland was due to
the hoe. member for bringing forward the eve of Mr. Blake.
He should like to ask the govei nment whether it was iu-
tended to publish the correspondence relative to that trans.
action ? lie also wished to direct the attention of the go-
vernment to the evictions now going on upon an estate ix
the Tralee union under the authority of the Court of Chan-
cery. Upwards of 600 miserable persoas had been evicted.
Mr. MONSELL said that having read the blue book with
considerable attention, he felt bound to say that the state-
ments therein contained appeared to him to be drawn up
with great are and attention.
Mr. R. M. FOX asked whether the returns relating to the
Chancery estates in Ireland were prepared ?
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he believed the papers were
on the table of the house.
Mr. OSBORNE said that was a mistake. The return
was in manuscript, but it was not printed, and was likely to
occupy some time in going through the press in consequence
of its voluminous character.
Mr. HUME appealed to the government to bring the
whole subject of Ireland under the consideration of the
house.
The order of the day was then read, and the house went
into a committee of
SUPPLY—ARMY ESTIMATES.
Mr. F. MAULE then rue. lie said it was now his duty
testo pros pose to the house the amount of force which her Ma-
' government had thought necessary to propose for
they ensuing year for the defence of this country
and its dependencies. The question as to the amount of
force to be maintained in this country was one which de-
pended upon the executive government, and any refusal to
grant this force, which any government thought proper ;to
propose, would be in a great degree expressive of a want of
confidence in that house. If the government, therefore, had
committed the fault of sending this vote to a committee up-
stairs, they would of course materially have neglected the
performance of their duty. Accordingly, he had to propose
that a force of 113,847 men be voted for the year ensuing,
exclusive of the force in the East India Company's service.
He could assure the house that that estimate had been
drawn up with every regard to economy. Now, there were
two objections taken to this vote. the first was, that a
court of inquiry had existed ;a nd the endsseas, that the
foreewas unnecessarily large.th respec first point he
begged the house to compare the estimates of the present
year with those for 1828, which would show that whilst 011 r
force had been increased, its proportionate cost had busier
siderably reduced. In 183.5, agate' the number of officers,
for whom a charge was made, was 4,405, whilst this year we
had 1,800 officers, and the rank and file were in proportion ;
but the charges were by no means so high in proportion as
they were in 183.5. As compar ed,htherefatever ore, wi
the part o
present government. The right hon. gentleman then stated
the:details of various economical arrangements that had been
effected during past years. But the next question to consi-
der was, whether the force prom:reed was too large a
force for the country to maintain in the present
state of affairs in Europe and the civilised world.
Ile did not found his demand for an increased number of
men upon the state of things beyond the channel, for the
estimates were framed before that state of things arose. He
relied upon the general expediency which called folr
reland tho-
roughly effective military force. The condition of ,
more especially at present, rendered it necessary that the
military establishment there should certainly not be dimi-
nished, and our wide-spread colonies, our military stations
in the Mediterranean, and in every part of the world, re-
quired the maintenance of an adequate force, not merely in
the respective localities, but as a reserve at home for the re-
lief, from time to time, of these foreign settlements. In
Canada, where our frontier, needing constant watching, bad
been gradually extending itself, an increase of military
force had been matter of absolute necessity. A similar
increase had become essential in Bermuda, in New Zealand,
and at Hong-Kong, a new settlement peculiarly requiring
effective protection. The new system of rotation of foreign
6-nice was effecting the highly desirable object of limiting
the lowest period of foreign service for our infantry regi-
ments to twelve years, a result meet beneficial to the physical
condition of the troops, and which, by rendering the service
more attractive, would lessen the military expenditure in
limiting the necessity for recruiting. As to any reduction in
the number of our troops, whether at home or abroad,
he regarded it as wholly impossible. No man, he
believed, would say, that in the present state of
Ireland any troops could be withdrawn from that
country. (Hear, hear.) There were at this moment in
Ireland 26,000 troops, scattered over 150 stations. In no
part of her Majesty's dominions had soldiers more haras:ing
duties to perform, and he would add nothine could be more
exemplary than the conduct of the troops bid been during
the past year. (Hear, hear.) Englend, too, required the
full amount of the trains now maintained, and of the addi-
tion he proposed. In England and Scotland, on the Bth
March, there were 26,471 infantey, and 3,653 cavalry,
30,000 in all, being one soldier to 1,000 of the popula-
tion. lie could not suppose that any hon. gentleman would,
on reflection, consider that this was too large a military
force for the protection of this wealthy country at once from
domestic violence, and from the chance of foreign aggression.
He hoped the house, therefore, would consent to no reduc-
tion ia these estimates. The present was peculiarly a
moment when this country should not weer even the aspect
of weakness. (Hear, hear.)
The vote was then put from the chair (113,847 men, ex. 1
elusive of the troops in the East Indies.
Mr. HUMS.; expressed his approbation at the manner in
which the present government managed the army, and the
active stros they had adopted for improving its moral tone.
As W tine extent of the ay, that was another thing. I
tot
woe extremely natural in the right hon. gentleman
desire to give his particular department an aspect of

his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown to make out a new
writ for the electing of a bargees to serve in this present
ant for the borough of Horsham, in the room of
oho Jervis, Esq., whose election has been declared void.
Mr. HUME said that if a motion which he had on the
paper yesterday had come on, he should have submitted the
propriety of suspending the writ for Horsham and for every
otherplace where the election was declared voi
d on
had been accouap-
nt
of bribery or treating, until a select committee
pointed to inquire into the nature and extentrder to of these prntain
ac-
time. This was abeelutely. necessary in o mai
the character of the house in the eyes of the country. In the
case of Horsham, it appeared that the party preeecting
the petition having obtained what he wanted declared be
would proceed no further. Consequently the house was not
in pore* ton of the extent to which bribery had been car-
ried. This was doubtless done to avoid the expense as well
as the exposure ; dad
it was for the house itirlf to take the
matter up. He regretted that the writ had been issued for
Harwich. That place certainly ought to have bren made an I
example of. In Bonham, it appeared the number of elec-
tors was about 300, and at a convivial meeting before tke
election upwards of 160 had been present, and the landlord
of the house declared they had whatever they liked to call
for. (Laug.hter.) Unless the how: would interfere the
evil would raceme, and there would be great danger of the
house being distrusted and despised by their constituents.
He would move as an amendment, "that in all cases where
an clectioa had been declared void through briberyd until
or cor-
ruption, the issuing of the writ should be suspende •
select committee bad inquired into the circumstances."
Lord COURTENAY did not think any fact had been
proved before the Horsham committee which could justify
the enspeasion of the writ.
Mr. S. ADAIR said he should support the issuing
of the art it, as the house had no ground before it for refusing it.
Sir J. HANMER objected to the issuing of the writ.
Sir D. L. EVANS thought that as soon as any ca
nsion se was
proved, that an example ehould be made by the suspe
of the writ.
Mr. BAILEY was understood te support the writ.
The Earl of MARCH said that some hon. gentlemen op-
posite admitted they had not read the evidence, and he
thought they. could not have read even the report. There
was nothing in either to warrent the suspension of the writ.
Mr. SHERIDAN, a member of the committee, supported
the issuing of the writ.
Mr. WARLEY thought it would be unjust to the deo-
ton of this country to issue the writ. The election had been
declared void through treating ; and was it fair to punish
only the candidate, and not the parties who led him into the
error by their corrupt propenetties They were infinitely
more destrviag of punishment than the candidate; and on
that ground be would suspend the writ. (.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said that two very distinct questions
were involved—one with respect to the conduct of this elec-
tion committee, whether they had acted widue regard
should
to
the law; another, as to the courts the house
pursue, supposing the conduct of the committee to be
irreproachable. lie thought the committee had pursued a
course in conformity with their duty, and had exercised
their discretion very fairly. One question before them, and
to which their attention was directed by the act of parlia-
ment, was, whether there had been any cempromise between
the parties, and whether ene party had refrained from going
into evidence of bribery. with the view of preventingthe
prosecution of the petition. The committee had inquired
into the facts relating to that circumstance, and had come to
the opinion that there had been no such compromise. He
entirely gave credit to the committee, and thought chef bad
come to a right decision. Then there was a provision in the
act that further inquiry and investigation regarding bribery
should take place it the committee recommended it. But
this committee could not well make that recommendation ;
for although there were allegations in the petition respecting
ibribery, those had not been goneco into, and could not he go
into, by the committee, and nsequently they were pre
cluck d from making such' a recommendation. (Hear, hear.)
Under these circumstances he saw no call for euspending the
writ. (Hear.) One of the allegations was that there had
been gross, extensive, and systematic bribery, and that
such bribery was open and notorious in the borough.
Though he had introduced the act of parliament referred
to, he thought it was detective, and he should have been
very glad had a special power been given to the house,
where such allegations were made, to order the case to be '
further tried by a select committee, and to obtain from them
a special report. In this case there could be no such special I
report. Stall he was disposed to think it might be fit, be-
fore this writ issued, that there should be some further in • '
quiry respecting the alleged bribery. (Hear, hear.) He
thought the case was one of so much suspicion, that it wise i
right for the house to institute further inquiry. Ile was not I
prepared, however, to agree to the amendment of the hon. I
member for Montrose, because it was too general in its cha-
racter.
racter. The allegation of bribery might be made only with I
regard to one or two electors, and might not affect the
general character of the borough. lf the allegation affected I
the general character of the borough, it was desirable that I
further inquiry should be made.
Mr. BANKS said the committee were unanimous in the I
opinion to which they had come. Nothing appeared before
teem to induce a suspicion that there had been a compro-
mine. He was prepared to support the view of the noble
lord if he thought there should be a further inquiry.
Sir R. PEEL said that the hon, member for Montrose i
proposed by his amendment that the house should abandon I
its discretion respecting the issuing of writs where members I
were charged with bribery or treating, till there was a pre-
vious inquiry by a select committee. tie thought it 11615 de-
sirable to institute an inquiry where particular charges of
bribery were made egging the sitting member, but he I
doubted the policy of depriving themselves of all discretion
in every case where a member might be unseated on a
charge of treating. He thought it better tat they should
of I
decide on each particular case, and not deprihve themselves
all discretion by the adoption of an inflexible rule. (Hear,
hear.) He understood the noble lord to propose thetil sue-
I
pension of the writ, not for an indefinite period, but l a
further inquiry was instituted, and in that ease he was pre- '
pared to support him.
After a few words from Sir H. Witiot:ounv,
The Earl of MARCH withdrew his motion, as did Mr.
Haste his amendment.
THE NAVIGATION LAWS.
In muster to Mr. J. B. SMITH,
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that the hon. gentleman had
asked two questions : the first was whether a cargo of cotton
arriving at Havre from t
ame of
States could be admitted
into this country, no part of the cargo having been dis-
charged ? If a cargo so imported entered under the Ame-
rican or British flag, it might come to this country as if the
vessel had come direct from the United States, although it
might have first entered the port of Havre. The second
question was whether • cargo of cotton arrivin under the
French flag would be allowed to come into thin country
under the French tiag ; and whether the government
would make a special exception in this case in consequence
of the cotton being unsaleable in Havre ? He could only say
that the admission of cotton under the French flag would be
a distinct violation of the navigation laws, which they could
not take upon shemselves.
In answer to Mr. Mueller,
Mr. LABOUCHERE said that, in the present state of public
business, it was impossible to fig any time for bringing for-
ward the subject of the navigation lawsfull notice
would be given when the government were prepared to bring
the question before the house.
POOR LAWS.
In answer to Lord G. BENTINCE,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
what he had stated in the debate on the income tax was, that
upwards of 600,0001• poor rates had been paid for the relief
of the poor in Ireland for four months, and at that rate that
upwards of 2,000,000/. would have been expended in the year
for the relief of the poor. The sum expended for the relief
of the poor in England and Wales up to Lady.day, 1847, was
5,280,0(01.: and the estimate of the probable expenditureup
to Ladyday in the present year would be between 200,0001.
or 300,000 i. more. He was not able to say what was the
amount expended in Scotland.
Mr. NEWDEOATE wished to know whether the sum of
600,0001. paid in Ireland included any sums for the repay-
ment of money expended in relief works, or for the advances
to certain districts in Ireland under the recent act,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
whole amount was expended for the relief of the poor.
Mr. P. SCItOPE said the rates for the nest four months
were not likely to be so productive as those of the preceding
four months.
Mr. DISRAELI wished to knew whether the 600,0001.
included any arrears ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 'aid that he
could only say that 600,0001. was the amount paid.
Sr W. BARRON said the house would not come to a just
conclusioa unless they knew the amount of property rated to
the poor in England and Ireland.
BALTIC TRADE.
Mr. J. CLAY wished to know from the noble lord (Pal-
merston) whether the government had taken any steps to
protect British trade in the ports of the Baltic, in conse-
quence of the events which were passing there ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that no measures had been
taken, the government having no reason to suppose that any
would be necessary. (Hear, hear.)
CROWN COLONIES.
Mr. FORSTER wished to ask the Under Secretary of the
Colonial-office when the promised measure for giving self-
government to the crown colonies, and other British pos-
sessions not having legislative and representative assemblies,
would be brought under the consideration of the house?
Mr. HAW ES said that he was only waiting for an oppor-
tunity to introduce such a bill with respect to Australia.
Mr. HUME wished to know whether the bill would
extend to Van Diemen's Land.
Mr. HAWES said it was under consideration whether
Van Diemen's Land would be included in the bill or not.
With regard to the other colonies, it was not in contempla-
tion to introduce any bill (as was understood).
THE CASE OF MR. POLLETT.—COUNTY COURTS.
Mr. B. COCHRANE said that having brought under the
notice of the house on a former occasion the case of Follett,
who had been sent to prison for contempt of court, because
he was not able to pay a debt he owed, be begged to mention
another cue which was equally hard, and of which he hoped '
the right bon. gentleman would also take cognisance. The
present was the case eta man who owed te, and because
he was not able to pay he was sent to prison,. had to miz
with felons, to pick oakum, and to lie on an iron bedstead.
If the law permitted such great hardships the sooner it was I
changed the better.
rehended the court
Sir G. GREY said he app
had the
power of committing a fraudulent debtor who contracted
debts without a possibility of being able to pay. With re-
gard to the case of Follett, he had written to the visiting
justices and received their report. He addressed a letter to
them since then, calling their attention to the regulations
which ought to be enforced in prisons, and which if enforced
would prevent Follett from being treated as • felon. He
had not seen any account of the other case to which the hon.
gentleman referred.
After a few words from Mr. COCRELNE and Mr. B/LILLIB,
Ms. BRUM, said;he thought the Isla sad r.

COMMIT/U.—administration of Oaths (Court of Chancery) Bill.
BEPOBT.—Eketion Beeoccizmoes
NEW MEMBER.
Mr. (1. Dice was introduced by Lord George Bentinck
and Mr. Disraeli, and took the oaths and his seat for the
borough of Aylesbury.
LAMBETH WATER-WORKS BILL.
Mr. BERRIES moved that it be an instruction to the
committee on the Lambeth Water-works Bill, to entertain
the petition of Sir Edward Burtensbaw Sugdeo, against the
bill, although the same was not presented within seven clear
days after the second reading of the bill.
Sir W. HEATIICOTE fe compelled p
to opose the
motion, as being wholly subveltr,ive of the standing orders of
the house.
After a short discussion, in which the motion was sup-
ported by Mr. Disraeli, Sir R. H. highs, Mr. Stewart, Sir I
John Duckworth and Mr. Bankes, and opposed by Mr.
Greene, Mr. Wakley, and Mr. Barnard, the house divided—
For the motion 33
46-13
Against it
SELECT COMM' ITEE ON WOODS, FORESTS, &e.
Mr. SPOONER inquired from the noble lord, h
te mem-
ber for Bath (Lord Duncan), whether the noble lord, the
member for Falkirk (the Earl of Lincoln) had declined to
serve on the committee to be appointed on the subject
?cit the
departments of Woods, Forests, and Land Revenues
Lord DUNCAN replied that he had communicated with
the noble lord, the member for Falkirk, who had acquainted
him that he declined to serve on the committee.
Mr. SPOONER said the answer he had received saved
him the necessity of giving notice of e motion on the subject.
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.
Mr. E. DENISON said as he was not aware of any oppo-
sition to the motion which stood No. 11 on the list of to-day
in his name, and which bad received the unanimous appro-
bation of the 'elect committee of last year, uld new
move that " select committee be appointed to inquire into
the eomposition and management of -the Ecclesiastical Com..
missions for England and Wales."
Sir R. H. INOLIS objected to notices of motion being
thus taken out of their numerical order. It was most in-
convenient, as many members who would have been present,
were not now in their places, not expecting the motion to
come on. He would not, therefore, consent to the motion
being now taken out o: its course.
Mr. E. DENISON
motion ender such circumstances, ha
would withdraw the for the present.
CONVICTIONS UNDER THE FACTORIES ACT.
Mr. WILSON said he wished to put a question to the
right hon. baronet at the head of the Home Department.
He (Mr. Wilson) had that day received a letter from the
firm of Messrs. White, of Loughborough, who had recently
been convicted by the magistrates under an error which had
crept into the Factories Act, contrary to the manifest inten-
tion of the legislature. The parties had been charged by
Mr. James Bury, the inspector of the district, tar an infringe-
ment of the act in having employed in their factory a woman
named Harriet Smith, more than 11 hours in one day. It
was stated by Mr. White that she had come to work at a
quarter•past one and remained till eight o'ilock, being em.
ployed therefore only hour, ; but by a construction put
upon the act by the inspector, which, in effect, held that the
woman must be taken to have commenced work with the
other persons employed, viz., at five o'clock in the morning,
and consequently. that she hail been at work 13i hours, the
msgistratcs convicted, and intli,ted a heavy fine. The qua-
tion he (Mr. Wilson) bad to te-k was, whether any applica-
tion had been node to the llome.office for • remission of the
fine ; if so, whether the tine Irrl keen remitted ; and lastly,
whether A was the intention of the government to introduce
a hill to explain the error which had crept into the act ?
Sir G. GREY replied that no application for a remission
of the penalty had been made t the home-of ice. His right
hon. friend the Vice-President of the Board of Trade had,
however, placed iu his hand a letter on the subject, and he
Sir G. Grey) had addressed a cummuuication to Mr. Saun-
ders, the paperintendent of the eiitriet, desiring to be fur-
nished with his report on the me. That report he (Sir 0.
Grey) had not yet received. bat when it reached him be
would coi:ider the whole matter, and see if any alteration of
the existing law was necereery.
ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE.
It was ordered that the house, at its rising, do adjourn till
Monday.
THE PUBLIC HEALTH BILL.
Capt. PECHELL asked what were the intentions of go-
vernment with respect to this bill
Sir O. GREY said that, in consequence of the alterations
which had been introduced, the bill was being reprinted,
and would he in the hands of members in a few days.
OFFICE OF SERI EANT-AT-ARMS.
Mr. lIUME said that he had been prevented yeeterday
from bringing forwarl a question of great importance, on
the subject of the now errant office of Serjeantat-Aims.
Be, perhaps, might now be permitted to express a hope that
no appointment would be made to that situatioe which
would prevent such reduction of the salary as might here-
after be thonzht desirable.
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that the ap- '
pointment would be made subject to any such reduction.
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bet of troops demanded exceeded the actual necessity of the uig clines, adit th.
middle classes (Cries of "Oh He Weatminster—(loud cries of "Oh oh" d
cue, and whether adequate efficiiency could not be attained the feelings of the • wchletittlne.)orlineothbeiingle"odf 1
make the Bright) ventured to tell the bon m' ke )aa he (I"'
at less outlay, more especially in tee existing condition of wanted to know how the government were to
ol up._ .
would . em r., that where one
our finances. The right bon. gentleneth might very well deficiency of 1,800,0001. on last year and 3,000,000 .on this. man in Westminster sympsehtse with his speech, et
they
not times in whiten inadequate They were now asked to vote away money before had lout ten men. would sympathise with the oboe!, • ations rude
eal
that the"
were
also Tim T t and he wanted to know how they were to get it. by. his hon. friend the member for the West Riding. (Loud
military force should be kept up, but these were . es go i ,
in which no more money should be laid out, for this or They were not to have aa increased ncome tax. Would cries of e No, no.
The noble lord at the bead of the
and ifwhat 't
than the actual wants of the state rte- the government propose any other tax, aso was i god
had not been more fortunate in his speech then
any otber purpose, operty Were they
or
had the hon. member for Westminster (Lauth
cessitated. New, in his clsar conviction, the number of to be ? Would it be a tax on. pr d . . ter.) Every
troops demanded did exceed the actual wants of the pored to propels • legacy and pr bate duty on len or mark of approbation bestowed upon the sone of the noble
tn n rth tth • k
eus of another lord had emanated from the party against who th eie
state, for he regarded the apprehensions under which the would they have recourse to e a
b a talk of the dan ter lord had been conte di gal i t m e - --4
government purported to proceed as mere delusions. panic ? It. was lamedtable to
Russia,
or .
otgar
office.
(Loud criesnof n"
Nulo,Peno.!ler Nem h
nobleet lord had
punted the manufacturers of the
circumstance that the estimates were framed be. country. The danger was in the
whatstateh o our fihnences. . north of En.gland
fore the new state of things on the continent. (Cries of "Oh !") Ile repeat d
theatsaida -asirtoeoviidtler with coming tf?r the Home-office and asking for meow,
Now, in his (Mr. Huoie's) opinion, we were in • much bet- vote for the navy was before theme- had nothing ) Even if true, that was a mutter
ter position since the manifestation of this new state of things stronger with a surplus revenue andwand which
fewer chipsto do with the present question. The
than we were before it ; infinitely less liable to the risk of soldiers than an increased armament and a deficient noble lord was probably aware that whenever sold'
iers were
war, and less called upon, therefore, to increase our military revenue. ("withHr, hear," and cries of "Oh !") Hon. wanted in the north of England,
it had been when the p •
Cures. He was convinced that if we did not meddle with gentlemen talked of the state of Europe,. bat the people of of core was sueh as to meet the. views of hon. gentle= II
other nations, there was no other nation at all disposed to Europe were too much engaged with their oven business to opposite, and it was a proverb m Manchester that the red
meddle with us. The various powers on the continent had come and attack us. (Ironical cheers.) lie would not now coats came when bread was dear. As to the assumed stets-
enough to do to mind their own business, and we our. attempt any argument on the subject, but woule merely city
for troops here, he found a return showing the re
quid, for that matter, were likely te have quite enough oc- ask if hon. gentlemen opposite were ready to incur the distribution of the forces. In Great Britain there present
cupation in the am why Meer. hear-) In 1838 we had discontent of the working claws at the present amount of present 39,000 within some odd men, and in Ireland there
only 80,000 troops: why were we now to be saddled with taxation ? (Cries of "Oh !") In their name he protested were 20,296 men, in addition to whom there were
the maintenance of 113,000 troops ? There was even less against the manner in which the question before not less than 12,000 armed police, who had w
ere
necessity for 80,000 men than there was ten or fifteen years the committee had been received, against the perfect trained and drilled, and were to ell intents and
ago, for since that time en effectual Police force had been recklessness with which the public money was to be purposes a military force. It was clear then that 40,000
created both in Ireland and in England, who answered voted. and the impatience with which any opposition to it men was the number of the force in that part of the United
many of the purposes of pr testion to life and property was met. He warned lion, gentlemen that they would Kingdom, and that being so he was entitled to take into
which the military had Previously s,
was His right hon. repent of having voted money which they bad not get to consideration the various circumstances under which it wm
friend had asserted that the docks, warehouses, and depute spend. assumed that this enormous force ought to be maintained,
were public property which demanded protection, and the Lord J. RUSSELL said that the impatience referred to Before be (Mr. Bright) had become a member of the
home army WSW
bee in that respect ; butwm there not the was referable to the topics introduced by hon. gentlemen, house the noble
of
opposite (Lord John Russell)
hid
civil force available for the purposes of domestic police ? He and not to the question before the committee. All that they been the friend of Irelaxd, and had contended manflly
did not desire to discharge a single man from the army by had said remecting the detail, of finance, the navy set- for throe changes with respect to that courtry which he
hie motion. The proposed reduction could be effected by mates, the constitution of the ordnance hoard, and BO forth, then felt necessary. lie (Mr. Bright) remembered the
stopping the recruiting service, which gave 12,000 men might have been conceded, and the question before them, almost ferocious warfare which had taken place in that
number of troops of the number of men, have been entirely untouched. house on the measures proposed lel the noble lord
every year to the service. . The it
the •
improvement . for
would then be reduced within the year to 100,000 (Hear, hear.) Surely was no reproach to committee the of the condition of reland ; and yet what
men. With respect to the colonies, he thought that they were impatient, seeing that no argument upon was now the political position of that portion of the nation?
that they ought to kw taught to govern themselves, those details could in the least degree assist them in making She hat next to no constituency—only 105 members were
and then ho troops now required there would be up their minds on the question betore them. (Hear, hear.) sent to represent her in this house, and wrong and km
unnecessary. If the colonies were equitably treated they lie admitted, with the hon. member for the West Riding of qualities with respect to her political institu.
would at the present moment have been at their own ex- Yorkshire, that this and similar votes determined the general tions were not denied, but on the contrary, were
prose for self de fence. The motion he was about to make amount of expenditure for the present year,. and that reduc- more or less admitted on both sides of the house.
was only the first step towards the final reduction which he ing small votes, although it might show a disposition to coo- She had, moreover, a church establishment —(queojen,
urged. lie contemplated a further reduction of 30,000 men mise and retrench, would have little influence on that general question)—which would not last a single session but for
within the next few years. What lie had to move was, that expenditure. The hon. member for Southwark was mistaken the church establishment in this country ; and she had a
the number of troops be reduced to 100,000 mene.wbien was in supponng that the government proposed a large increase condition of things which our children would not believe
the amount of men voted three years ago, and 20,000 more to the naval and military expense. Since their accession to possible. See what this army was for. Ireland's children
than were voted in 1835. office, taking the number of men, which was the great test, lead died in greater numbers from famine and pestilence
The motion and amendment having been put from the they had only added 3,003 for the navy and about 3,200 for than the sons of England had ever perished to war.
chatr, the ordnance. That certainly was not so great an increase (Rear, and question.) What was to be done to remedy
Dlr. V. SMITH did not agree with the hon. member for as to justify the remarks of that honourable baronet this intolerable and disgraceful state of things ? Talk of a
Montrose, that the Aspect of Europe presented nothing to He said that the government were now propceing an Freat empire !—Tbat was no credit teeny sovereign or state if
induce the house to assent to the demand of the govern- addition of 5,000 men to the army, the fact being that the it was not • contented empire. Better have only our own
'Bent for the number of men proposed in the estimate before general amount of the army remained the same. But it tight little island, than add to it thousands and millions et
them. did so happen that nice who had been employed in India, discontented hubjecte. (Hear, and question.) Gentlemea
Mr B. OSBORNE said, that when the estimates were and who were not included in last year's vote, were included opposite might laugh, but they were laughing ia
first proposed Lod of opinion, considering Europe was in iu this. It was admitted that 22,000 men was not too great their sleep ; and some day they would be awakened by
a state of profound peace, the number of men demanded was a force for India, with its 12,000 miles of frontier ; there something he would not describe. (Hear, and a laugh.)
too great, but the recent events thet had occurred had tended were continual demands from Australia ; Mauritius must be Out of doors it was generally believed tht a privileged clan
to modify his/ opiuion. He objected to the right hon. gee. protected ; Malta and Gibraltar could not be left without had a predominant influence in this house. Let them rm
Ucman (Mr. F. Haute) taking the year 1835 as that which proper garrisons ; and the force of the West Indies must be member that they had an enemy at their doors, and let then
gave a proper standard for the number ef troops. The kept up. Looking, therefore, to our colonies, and to the act accordingly. It was high time to show a stronger syta-
standing army, which W introduced by Charles 11., a king rule of reinforcement by which troops could only be kept ten pathy for industry, and for the people at large. Sixty mil-
d whom the nation aught ever to entertain the deepest ab- veers abroad and five at home, there was, he considered, suf. lions of taxation could not long be patiently supported, shift
herrence, had gone on increasing ever since in numbers. licient ground to justify the estimate proposed. It had been the burden es they might. They must come to retrench.
The number cf the field officers at three different epochs said that we should seek to defend our institutions, not meet when the taxes were refused ; and he undertook to say
would show how the expenses bad gone on increasing. lie by military power, but by the affections of the people. that the burden would not be much longer tolerated by the
would take ,hew
year 1783, at the clone of the American war,. He readily admitted that our case would iudeed be de,- industrious classes. (Hear.)
the year 1798, when tho French war commenced;; and perate if we had to rely upon the force we now possessed Mr. NEWDEGATE rose amidst loud cries of "divide;'
the present rear. la 1783 the number of ti Id In order to defend the throne and institutions of theoh, oh." Ile begged to tell the bon. member for
officers was 821, in 1799 it was 1,863, and in 1848, a country. (Loud cheere) He quite admitted as much for theta est Riding that the representatives of mixed coned-
period of profound peace, the number of field officers had Queen Victoria as for Elizabeth, that the best guards which tuencies knew the feeling of the industrious classes, and that
swelled to 2,106, showing a greater proportion of field these could have were to be found in the affections of their feeling was one of deep disappointment with the free-trade
rfficers than was required to officer a French army of subjects. It should be recollected that we were rot living measures. If any class should soon need the protection of
400,000 men. The expenditure of the army during the 32 in times when every man was a soldier, or instructed in the state, it would be the manufacturers and not the eeriest'.
years of peace amounted to no hen than 415 millious ma
de- military tactics. The state o
f,
our society was such, that tural interest. (Oh, oh.)
ling. Ito should not have troubled the house with these de- a great proeortinn of the people, being entirely engaged in Mr. HOME said he observed, that on the well-filled
tails had he not conceived that he could point out the means pursuits of industry and commerce, found them- benches around him, he did not ace six individuals who had
of effecting a great saving in the army estimates. The pro. selves, in the event of the slightest disturbance, been present all the evening. The number of men proposed
posal which he had to bring under the notice of the corm in want of protection. (Hear, hear,) When he wa- for the army was 113,821, of which 77,297 were lett for the
moue divided itself into three distinct heads. First, the in thememe-office he did not think he had ever been service of Great Britain and Ireland ; adding to these pen-
coneolidation of a.l the different departments of the army appe to defend the institutions of the country ; but he sioners, yeomanry, and trained dockyard men, there were
into one; secondly, by effecting a eoniderable reform inithe hod been often appealed to by manufacturers and merchants 123,000 ready to be in arms for this country, exclusive of the
expenditure ; and, thirdly, by reducing the iiumber of men. from Lancashire and Yo
cheering on the oppo- militia. (Hear.) With this state of things, and with the
The army was dividsel into three branches—cavalry, infantry, sition benches)—stating that the amount of troo must be noble lord's promise for the next year, the hon. and gallant
and ordnance; and all three had separate official estcbiith- increased, or they would not be safe where they were; and member for Westminster, in his simplicity, was perfectly
ments, without any one central head. There were the Corn- more than once had he been told by respectable men that satisfied. (Laughter.) For 20 years we had never had so
mander-in.Chief and the Secre•ary at War ; but they mieht they must take their wives and families to a different part of many regular troops by 25,000. (Hear.) He hoped the
be at issue on the most important points of regulation. 'I he the country unless • greater military force was granted. noble lord would at least be satiafied with 100,000 men.
committee of 1837 had recommended that the greater pot- (Hear, hear.) The fact was, that all those alarms and dia. Sir D. L. EVANS said he had not expressed satia-
tion of authority over the army should be vested in quietude' which occurred in‘owns containing from 20,000 to faction with this statement of things, but he had Raid that he
the Secretary at War, who fur that purpose was to be 50,000 inhabitants were caused by about 600 boys from was glad to hear that the noble lord at the head of the
made a member of the cabinet. Ile would ask, why 15 to 20 years of age, who went about with torches, government meant to revise the whole system of taxation,
bad not her Majesty's present ministers carried out that Lad put the whole town into a state of commotion which pressed so heavily on the industrious classes. lie
plan, seeing that the report of 1837 was signed by three and disturbance. It was not for protecting the throne and would repeat, that the actual effective force for the whole of
of the most influential of their body ? (Ilear, hear.) The institutions of the country, but in the civilised and social Great Britain was only 22,000, and this number he believed
Beard ofOrdnance consisted of seven members, whoseeislaries condition of England, for the purpose of defending the to be totally inadequate,
amounted to 9,000/. a year, which sum might be saved by great majority, and saving them from the disquietude and The cornmince divided—For the amendment 39
consolidation. tThen there was the commissariat, where trouble of arming themselves, the present amount of Against it
reform might else be effected, but not until the establish- home ferce was kept up. (Hear, hear.) Ile hoped therefore Sir W. MOLESWORTH then moved that the number of
went of a complete system of colonial reform. The coat of that bon. gentlemen would not think it necessary to repeat men be reduced by 5,419, being the number returning from
the military establishments were—horse-minds, 96,0001.' such commonplaces. (Cheers.) lie should have thought, India.
ordnance, 91,0001. ; and commissariat, 316,0001. lie would too, that the condition of forage' affairs was such as to pre- The committee divided—For the amendment 45
propose to abolish the office of elaster. General of the Urd- vent any member or that bout.; nom etteciing ii,is en ih_uler Against it
pence and his five assistant.. He would also abolish the year for making any reduction in the military or naval The vote was then agreed to.
Secretary-at-War and his deputy. (Oh, oh.) He main- force of the country. (Hear, hear.) No man could look to 700,000/. was voted on account for defraying the expenses
Mined it was quite possible to do so—and also that state of affairs and say that no danger would spring of her Majesty's land forces at home and abroad.
the Judge-Advocate and his deputy. These two out of it, or that be was sure of the course which foreign The following votes were also agreed to :
reductions would ease 8,0001. • year. There was couotries would take, or the relations that would exist some 50,0001. for the charge of general officers not being colonels
the agency also, which might safely ho abandoned. time hence between those countries and this. (Hear, hear.) of regimen
ts ;
It cost 32,0001. a year, and be did not sec any necessity Up to the present moment, he was happy to say, 200,000/. for half-pay and military allowances
there was for it. The Indian army had no agency, and its nothing had occurred to induce England to interfere by a 100,0001. for widows' pensions
stations were much more distant than ours. Then there protest, or even by so much as a remonstrance with any con- 60,0001. for allowances on the companionate list ;
regiments things as sinecures in the army. The colonels of oriental state. But still, although there was nothing which 500,0001. for the out-pensioners of Chelsea Hospital ;
might in his opinion be safely done away with. should induce the government to add to the estimates hey 50,0001. for stationery and the stationery-office ;
The duty was all done by the lieutenant-coOmele, arid, be- proposed before these troubles broke out over the whole con- 50,0001. for the works of the new houses of parliament ;
sides, the manner in which the colonels were paid was hie- tinent of Europe, he did think it would not be wise to make 50,0001. for civil contingencies.
graceful to themselves and the army. (Hear, hear.) Then any reduction at the present moment. The hon. member The house then resumed, and the Chairman reported
profits on clothing were calculated at 600/. a year for each for the West Riding of Yorkshire invited them to progress.
battalion, so that when a regiment contained two battalions the consideration of another point—namely, the great ADMINISTRATION OF OATHS (COURT OF
the colonel's profit on the clothing was 1,2001. a year. In pressure of taxation. That question had already been urged CHANCERY) BILL.
this way 95,000/. per annum might be saved. (Hear, lathe debate on the income tax. Looking at thc distress which This bill went through a committee.
on-
hear.) lie found that there were 307 generals on the prevailed in many parts of the country, it was a fit- ELECTION RECOGNISANCES BILL.
army list, of whom 147 were colonels of regiments, tiag subject to consider whether any of these taxes Oa the motion that the report on this bill be further con-
receiving in that capacity an aggregate of 90,0001. a
ingotpressed unduly, or whether a more equitable apportion- sidered,
year. The second majors were almost uselese, and might o them ought not to be made. He deeply de- The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved as an amendment
easily be dispensed with, and there 45,0001. more might be plored the distress and embarrassment which many of that the report be taken into further consideration that day
saved. The next point to which he would call the attention our richest and lately flourishing towns had felt, six months.
of the committee was the system of brevet rank. It ob- owing to the scarcity of food and other visitations. The house divided—For the motion
tinned in no service but ours, and was the cause of great and He should therefore have been moat happy to have pro- Against it
useless expense. Then, in the miscellaneous expenses, there posed a great reduction of the army, navy, and ordnance The report was then received, and the bill ordered to be
were a great many items which might be ,lone away estimates, if possible ; but under the present circumstances engrossed.
with. For instance, the table allowance at Dublin and St. which pervaded Europe, and whatever might be the purport
NEW HOUSE OF COMMONS.
James's was quite useleu, and cost the country 32,0001. •of the letters which the hon. member for the West Riding On the motion of Mr. STAFFORD, a select committee
year. Another great anomaly of the British army was to of Yorkshire (Mr. Cobden) might have in his possession, was appointed to inquire into the proposed arrangements of
be found in the ordnance department. Our army was the whatever the remonstrances which might be made from the kitchen and eating and accommodation rooms for meta-
only army in the world in which the artillery was an any quarter, he (Lord John Russell) thought he would be bees and efficersof the House of Commons in the New Palace
insulated force. In every other service it was part and parcel abandonieg the permanent and general interests of the of Westminster ; and to report whether any and what un-
of .the army. With us they nere ruled by • separate country to the in understood complaints of those who proTements could be made in the present system of supply.
board, consisting of officers, not e
we of whom had ever served hereafter might repreach the government for yielding to ing refreshments.
in the department over which they re appointed to rule. them, if he did not ask the committee to agree with the WEST GLOUCESTERSHIRE PETITION.
Under this bead there was charged 825,0001 i for stori s. Of government in their proposal of the military force they Mr. GREENE called the attention of the house to the
that sum he be that • great portion might be saved if now asked, feeling convinced that such • force was n eces. fact that the petition from certain electors of West Glouces-
the stores were taken by contract. The Indian army was sary for purposes essential for the safety of this country. tershire (ordered on 29th inst. to be printed), contained
supplied with everything by contract, except power; and (LouDA
L.eers.) • paragraph referring to what had taken place in that house.
with the most beneficial effects as regarded econo. Hon. Sir
members had alluded to the superiority of our weapons, but discussion, but he must deny the assertion made by the of the house, and he therefore moved that the order for the
he begged to assure the committee that the French musket' hon. member for Montrose (Mr. Hume), that this was in Printing of the petition be discharged.
were much superior to ours, and bed a co
foot a war estimate. In fact, the difference between the Mr. 0. BERKELEY suggested instead, the omission
greater range, In all the items he had enume- present estimate and that of last year was a decrease of 126 simply of the objectionable words.
rated there might be, if his suggestions were adopted, men and an increase of 300 horses. The truth was, that the The motion for discharging the order was, however,
a saving effected of 57010001. a year without the reduction of present was essentially the same estimate as that of last year. agreed to, Mr. G. BERKELEY intimating that be would bass
a single man. (Hear, hear.) But there was yet another And what was here gular force which it was asked to keep the objectionable passag.• struck out, and then again print
saving which had been proposed by his hon. friend the ap for the defence of this portion of the kingdom—this va the petition 60 amended.
member from Montrose—he meant a reduction in the centre of the British empire ? Why it was only 22, The house adjourned at 20 minutes to 2.
number of men. lie believed that before that was effected, men, cavalry and infantry. In the course of the discussion
a general alteration and reform must take place throughout America had been pointed to as setting this country an
the whole of our colonial system. (Hear, hear.) A
large example in respect of the reduction of the naval and military
portion of the army was required for Ireland, but he establishment. Though America, owing to the concentra-
believed that if gevernment had taken up Irish questions tion of her dominions, was more secure than this
with ranch larger views, and had shown a sincere wish to mentre, whose territories were spread far end wide
ameliorate the condition of the people, Ireland wonld not be still America kept up a regular military force of
in her present unsatisfactory condition. He could not euPs 56,000 men, besides having • militia amounting to ,
port his hon. friend's motion for • reduction of 13,000 men ; 1,300,000 strong. But in this country the executive
but nevertheless, he trusted he should have bis hon. friend's eovernment were, he must say, placed in a difficulty,
support in the retrenchments which he proposed. for they were told they must neither have a sufficient
Col. SIBTRORP was surprised to hear such attacks regular military force, nor would they be allowed any
on the British army from one of its most distinguished militia whatever. He (Sir D. L. Evans) had tonight I
officers, the hon. member for Middlesex. (A laugh.) He waited to hear the hon. member for the West Riding (Mr.
(Col. Sibtborp) maintained that the efficiency of the Cobden), but that hon. member had to-night made a most
British army was celebrated all over the world, &nil had inoffensive speech, as compared with those delivered else- I
been proved wherever it had been tested. He should sup- where, which be (Si D. L. Evans) bad read. To-night
port the government against the amendment of the hen. the hon. member had been much milder than on former
member for Montrose. occasions, for he had tallied of the merits of the army,
Sir W. MOLESWORTH, who spoke amidst manifest though formerly he bad said much of the demoralisation of
signs of impatience from both sides of the house, reeapitu- the army and the navy,
_ and of the Motility of both services
laced the statements he had made on a previous evening u in times of peace. (Hear, hear%) Last year nothing had
to the growing increase of the military expenditure of the been heard from the hon. member, except on the subject of
country since 1835, which he contended had been the main free trade, but in the present session the hon. member
cause of the deficiency of the income as compared with the appeared to have wholly abandoned his vocation. After
expenditure in the estimates. having achieved for himself an immortal triumph, which
Mr. COBDEN observed that where *o much impatience had obtained for him the tributes of every cepital in Europe,
Was evinced on the question whether they should vote the bon. member had come back, but had not uttered to
7,100,0001. for the army, in addition to 7,900,000/. for the the house one word on the great question of free trade.
navy, be could scarcely bore by anything he could say to (" Hear, hear," from the protectionists.) Nay-, on the 19th
bring back the feeling of the house to a proper sense of its of February last the hon. member had told the house that
duty to the country. (Hear, hear, and ironical cheerio in a great part of Europe, and in France especially, there
His hon. friend proposed to reduce the navy expenditure existed no other feeling on the part of the people but the de-
or.e-sixth, and now proposed to reduce that of the army. one- sire for the extension of the principles of free trade • but in
ninth. (An hon. member observed it was not a question of one single week afterwards it had been found that these very
" expenditure " but " men.") But the number of men set- people were thinking of something wholly different.
tied the whole question. (Hear, hear.) The committee of The opinions of the honourable member seemed to
inquiry on the army, navy, and ordnance began by declaring be held of importance, and as such he (S(r D. L. Evans) bad
\
that they had no right to interfere with the number of men a perfect right to remark upon them. He was rejoiced,
and the question could therefore he only dealt with by the however, that her Majesty's government had not thought
house. The country was now suffering heavily from taxa- prer to yield to the propositions of the hon. member, who
hontine anxiously looking for some remission ; but the had nothing whatever to do with the naval and military de-
house by paning these larre items would not leave itself any partments, but who had declared at tinny public meetings
room for retrenchment. They could not touch the interest that he knew better tenths eovernment what was necessary
on the national debt whicli was 27,000,0001., nor the unfunded for the defence of this empire, and moreover, that on that
debt, nor the coneolidateon fund; and if they now consented subject he was a greater authority than the illustrious chief
to this vote, they would have disposed of 49,000,0001. of the who was at the head of one of those great and important
\
estimates of the counery. When the miscellaneous estimates branches of the public service. (Hear, -ir.)
were brought forward, it was possible that some miserable Mr. BRIGHT rose amidst strong minifestations of impa-
trumpery vote shout • messenger's wages would receive a tience and loud cries of " Dieide," The hon. gentleman
warm
voicooppson ; some patriotic member would perhaps said that, in the few words he was about to address to the
raise his o against the expense of the buckhounda, or committee, he should not attempt to put his knowledge of
against some clap-trap vote of the kind. But it was only foreign affairs in comparison with that of the hon. member
right the. country should know, that if that house once who bad just sat down, and who was so fond of war
butsa to be
alloweet these large items of the public expenditure to pass, ready to fight, not merely for his own Queen, or the
there was no hope for retrenchment. Were hon. gentleman sovereign of any
•other nation. (Oh, oh.) He (Mr.
opposite prepared for the great discontent which was rising Bright) was not quite sure whether it would be judicious to
ti
in the minds of the people in consequence of the present adopt the opinions of the hon. member for Westminster
enormous weight of taxation. (Ironicalcheers and laughter.) even with regard to military affairs. The speech of the
He wished that those hon. gentlemen who jeered and laughed hon. member was not the most fortunate he had
wouldeometohimeoraentorningandresdthelettersthe ever delivered, though it had received repeated cheers

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ELECTION COMMITTEE—YESTERDAY.
BODMIN.—The question of qualification having
been decided in favour of Mr. Wyld, the committee pro-
ceeded to hear evidence in support of the bribery allegations,
which occupied them the entire day.

Itite Orprefos.

MAILS.
The West India Made, including Bermuda, Now; Ilan
Ilonduras, Ncw Orlea., Vera Crue, Tampico, and Porto am
Itico,
excluding those for Madeira, Samuel, Carthagen, Sant
St.a CanbyCanbyClragres, Panama, Went Coast of south America, and Juan-des
Nicaragua, will be made up on the evening of the in ApriL
The overload mails for Gibraltar, Malta, Greece, the lonian Islands.
P4Tpt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Mons-Kong, and China, via Southamp-
ton, will be made up on the morning of the 3rd April.
The mails for the Brazils, the Ricer Plate, Monte Video, P
on the
awns
bum, Bahia, Madeira, and Buenos Ayres, will be made up
evening of the 4th April.
The mails for Vigo, Oporto, Lisbon, Madeira, Cadiz, and Gibralla
will be made up on the morning of the 7th April.
Thu overload ckwed malls, via Marseilles, to the Ideditermerolli
Egypt, Aden, Ceylon, India, Meng-Kong, &a., will be mad, up on the
evening of the 7th April.
The mails foe British North America, and the United StMe4,
will be mae up en the evening of the 7th ApriL
The mails for New South Wales, Van Dientan's Land, and New
Zealand will be mode up ou the evening of the 30th April.
ill ma
let
The mails for the West Grist of Africa and Madeira w be le
B ap on the eveaing of the 70th April.
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NOTICE TO ADVERTISERS.
The number of STAMPS issued by the autboritim of the
Stamp-offiee, during 1347, to the
3,447,009
DAILY NEWS was
This, we believe, is within eight per cent. of the number
issued to the Morning Herald, Morning Chronicle, and
Morning Post, ALL PUT TOGETHER.
In addition to the above, Maned to the DAILY NEWS" ,
Morning Paper, there were issued for the? verting Edits
TEE EXPRESS 78,714
Which was more, we believe, than were issued either to
the Globs or Standard, Evening Papers.
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TO CORRESPONDENTS.
or The we.. Lola= e. Di .; war. ".a.t
ended sines, by Two &CO* en the any of yab'JcattOS.

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LONDON, SATURDAY, APRIL 1.
Tim King of BARDLVIA ii, after all, as far
as
the from
encircling his brow with tho "iron crown,"
King of PRUSSIA from taking his scat in Citts-
LEXAortre marble chair. Neither come forward with