The Express.
London, England, 1848-10-03 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 3, 1848.

awed. It ta Min de to labr from the erapreas ably, la I
re erre demo et soy past assediss appearsaran bare( I
INF elmeiri Grime al the el Ws " ,
hi*, Edam ithish he threw dise as le the body slier death.
V thy rev mewl Id seeole. Way mid era 1/40111 be...
pad le sink it the Stems el these met assodel serreberdee 1
raris. that Ile idereereand drib Weld bow Nes dee lea seeks I
dlr. of la sash tredve is • mein hew The ,read Odra dm
snob NM TOM.Mabiakr 0111dM WS Uwe ado el Yea :—.I.
Ombra IL liplasearas ft iliimi,Nok NM bomb. L Medea
deaden et dr puree le del Amer Orden edi.
toeerfiressetr
rata
rupletas are de wet ddlosisea; dry err be
ye deobbied =We Naowl unadeleerl wens et
death feet wale. Death der We dim rham drew*
eadded Ni dee&
.hew~
drier Me hos degatedlimie
Wended ll der enuole. vim ended no bed waft bet
sysirier te rib then to Woks( ea eybise.
_Soo, hi the
ore el lefts rebate wain but ember (dwelled by Inbile-
lbrierd warm) be or ram" eon sewed dowse Ibt es Oa
Waded= gem Owe Is at ewe to Wig" la so resit sled res.
hor rattran that it was essedeeed by serer and or by darer
nee le smother part of dds UM WWI SWIM thearat NNW am.
siandier It appears Ni the frees/ soorblerl eared skit
Ni. bate before he really vomited. 1 Ire sow rot bora arse
Ms items In a dose sufficient to destroy IN Is 44 bentace •
Wag if Names without Wing followed by as
Is
ewe rate, boomer, the action of the yarn ea the elsordi wee
=tSur some hours, as where, tee inaren the mere
ea swallowed after a tell red. /tar Ide dasettle
We el the bete II appear that the derrel die and
wo bride to vend til deem Are Is the
se hesrdy theta Ire hews atterun the proadt them led bra soy,mesing rest
ham hem ordleteed. Dire rortai, we el the =Met symptom
ot earreal plieriim aetricily itch perm Dessesed veo Na in, or
them Wick sad riglisig does oat errs, to have amommeed matt
ems tire ider. Wow Ido Ni aro to suer rat. oar libeendled
the e hderares, Ids Orr el this res Weld Ni You lima raw
domed by araern Memo We pima sere mem dillinally sad
soessibms ads he a meet morrows werre. BUN, hi
the cow of ikslh is a we he writ emertrag Ni bra prod, re
me only apply rain intruding, premises expeiseee se lil earkadt.
omit if we N. to done atrium meek Ni by ewer lag Oro
with antler,. rides, hut with extraordinary emeganan melt
cesium atise your be tarn Ni the mud Imeseet poems
Wort be -pad to en careers constrain Ile me el the
dotard, ea the sisetratlea that his dOl
& was mi
med
by anion pecessie this remark% peceliartty, whhhoe do as my
experience iamb Wirever bekireasareed la a ere ch arsealesi meek
mming where the doer wai Warr lis siem ion death la 44 haat.
The pima mast ham hegira to Ni spas su minty strumeh within
the oar risk lectimited by Madams med feeling or rieress. The
montane berm. Mg did and gu on. *donning the fans, as elated
in evidence, they mere mi sawed to the rood and ordinary !me of '
atreale, that so mash earl Emu lint& with the sullen et rimm-
ing amid eery swear that the math at the drowsed our awed by
that punts. Eaten the endears upon which I ham Mod then tria-
diatom be untrue, or ensue the fans ttaasyre to 'haw Mai •_—.emu.!,
1 ~,i jam muji, =ken by his reerard !Oise six o'clock In ttrraiwri-
' lag dthe lath a deptsium::. nii, a.; yttnt medical oonchmioe could
be arrived althea UM he night Lave died from an attack at English
dorm

Mrs. Mary Ames, whose evidence appeared In thisjournal
on the 21st ult., was retailed. and, in reply to a aeries of
questions from the Coroner, said, when there was a rumour
about three weeks ago that the body of deceased was about
to be taken up, I was with Mrs. Button in the yard adjoin-
ing our Lutes, and she said, " I hear Mr. }lntim., the
police constable, is coming to me and you ;and it he does come,
Mrs. Antes, you will Issusr me." I said, " Hang you, Mrs.
Button, I can't hang you ; I don't know what you mean,
fur I know nothing about it." I have not been ii.to her
house sin a., because I was advised hot.
Bliss Sparrow deposed as follows:—I knew deceased for
mane years before his death; he always appeared a healthy
men. I was called in by the /est witness to nurse hint, re
the Sande; before he dud I found him in bed, in a very
had state; be was all over sick, and purged very much. He
told ale he was taken nick on Saturday morning, direrly
after breakfast, and that he thought he &heal
item ham reached home. I attended hint until
he died, ea the Mondey morning, about • quarts:-
before ci Lt o'clock. He oompleiued of pains in has body
end thirst all tight. On the Sunday afternoon previous to
his death deceased became much worse, be told his wife that
he freely torgave her all site had done. Mrs. Button then
went down stairs, ar d did not go near him again until just
before ha died, and then I called her up-stairs because I saw
a great change in him.—Toe Coroner : Did deceased ever
capita • fear of being poisoned I Witness : He told me
sevirel times that he never would ,:rink out of anything hi,
wife gave him as he was afraid she wowd poism him.—
Coroner : Have you ever had any conversation with Mrs.
Button on the subject of Button's death Witness : I had
• couvirsation with Mrs. Button some time aims. I edited
her ifshe bad heard that they were going to take her husband
up ? She said she hal, at the same time remarking, " Well.
if they find any poison in him I did not give it hive"—
Ezaminatien continued : A few minutes before deceased
died, I went down stairs to call Mrs. Button, and
fouud a man named Robert Peck in the sleeping-
room, with Mrs. Bu'ten sitting upon his knee. De-
ceased was jealous of R Meet Peek, who was frequently with
Mrs. Button. Mrs. Button was in the family way, and de-
ceased said it was by another man. When I told Mrs. But
ton that I thought deceased would die, she said, " Oh, no,
I have seen hint as Lad liefore," to which I replied, " No,
you never have." Deceased was only sick once after I went
to him. Mrs. Button never waited upon him while I was
there. I never heard deceased threaten to destroy hinvolf.
'Robert Peek, the man Button was jealous of, has since died.
A jsupsnan said, it appeared to him and his brother jurors
that the cause of death was by no means satisfactory. By
Professor Taylor's report, it was perfectly clear that manic
might have been at ens time in the b3dy, but lost from int
trefactiess causal by lung interment. They did not there
fore feel justified in coming to the conclusion that the de-
cease had died a natural death. They would like to re-
turn a verdict which would leave the case open, in the event
of the coroner being able to obtain any further evidence.
The Coroner said, although no potion had been discovered,
it was possible (he did not say it was probable) that death
lad been caused by that means. But as it would bo meet.
eery, in the event of going before another jury, to prove the
Muse of death, which heel not been done at present ; for aka.
baste as Professor Taylor's report was, it failed in proving
the muse of death ,• he could not therefore advise them to
adopt Professor Tsylar's rep :re He was ready, if the jury
thought roper, to go further into the cam but he candidly
that at present he thought it would ho useless.
&metal preens expressed their entire concurrence with
doss dews.
Abe erme conversation the room was cleared, and the
apse about half an hour's deliberation, returned the
eraidiet :—" That the deceased Nathaniel Button,
oaths day of September, in the year of our Lord, 1844,
was takes ill with a violent retching and diarrlicea, of which
be shortly afterwards died, bat how such retching
.and
&mhos were produced there is no evidence before the jury
to show."
The mow then took occasion to observe upon other cases
of , and mid that as)iontemisepprehen.
sitmelliVile=alt would perhaps be necessary for him to
sq slaw words upon the subject. He had taken great pains
so mho himself acquainted with the CMS which had been
twoordit under his notice. The conclusion at which he had
111111.11111 was, that at present there was not sufficient evidence
I•Justily him in going at once into these eases. He certainly
Illegeobt that there was strong ground for believing that
slimy ad the children had been unfairly dealt with, but up to
Ohs patient time no circa or positive case had been reported to
him. Hs wished it to be distinctly understood that, notwith,
standing the molt of the presentinquiry, he shouldnot be de-
terred from going meet fully into cases of a similar descrip-
tion, for he was determined to do all that lay in his power to
extinguish the iniquitous system, which there woe every rev
eon to believe bad Men for some time past prevailing ia that
totality. He hoped that every death that might seem with
out the intervention of a medical man would be most nar-
rowly watched, and he could also wish that medical men
(and 'bespoke only of • few) would pay more regard to the
= ems of porters whom they were called upon to attend
d have been the cam in several instances
whishaMmtito
come before him in his official capacity.
The proessilings then terminated.

paean there who were aot representatins of elan, and the
representatives (Nested le eenuninee the meetellsgs of the
evening until theme puma bed roe eersy t eseerengly,
Mr. Dilkn, mite was is the &air, oohed ever the mem el
the different dabs, sad the representafiros of seek sr enured
and then peeped into a back teen, where they roomined
until the other parson in the outer new, who were net re •
presentation, had gone away; en tie Warn of the club-
bing into the front room, Mr. Writ peed a letter from
Mr. Charles Oaten Duffy,
reoaeamesiiag—
Court—Don't mention anything okra the contents of that
latter.

iiisseination continued—The Tepromuktatives they pro-
NNW to elect by ballot this essentive council. Some pro-
posed that the council should consist of seven members, and
sews wanted that it should consist only of five or throe
mensbers. There had never been such • council in the con-
eselleallea Were to ray knowledge. The terms executive
isottaair hot boo maim us of. Up to this time the council
of the aaatadaratlaa mosimell of twenty-one members. It
was Snell, &aided, alit seas discussion, that the executive
council should amid at lye.
By tdr. Whiteside—The resolutions were not taken down
la • book._

By the all—they all—intended to
elect Mr. O'Brien, but Mr. Dillon objected, and said that
Mr. O'Brien mould do more good in organising tits country
than by being confined to the council Yon= There were
thirty representatives present. I voted, and wrote the
names of the persons for whom I voted on • slip of paper.
When the ballotting papers were written upon they were
put Into a hat, and two scrutineers wire appointed to ex.
amine the votes. They removed the papers into an adjoin
lag room. They afterwards returned, and announced tho
resnlr, namely, that Mr. Dillon, Mr. Meagher Mr. Richard
O'filormsn, jun., atd Mr. Weise were elected; and that
there was an equality of votes lor Devin Reilly lull Lslor.
A new ballot was then taken, and Mr. Devitt Reilly was
Balled.
_ .

Mr. Whiteside—Are the ballot papers in the possession of I
the Attorney General now ?
Witness—They are.
Mr. Whiteside—Then I submit that the papers ought to
have been put in before.
Chief Justice Blackburne—l don't think your objection is
valid.

• ---
Examination in chief continued—After the executive soon-
:;l .t been elected Mr. =I Mr. M•i•froote *-;,per,
that the leal to should each take splodge to incite tie people
to insurrection before the following August, as before that
day the prisonenshould be liberated, Mr. Meagher then said
" The only pledge I will give is shot I will use all in my
heart sad soul to induce the people to an insurrection,
even before the Bth of August." Mr. Dillon made a similar
statement, adding "8o help me God I will." Mr. WOee
said, " By speaking, by writing, and by action, I will do all
that in me lies to hasten the insurrection." The meeting
did not break up until a quarter before 12 o'clock. The
ballot papers were here handed to the witness, and he iden-
tified the handwriting of Mr. James F. Laior, Mr. M'Der-
mon, and Mr O'Higgins, as having voted for certain gentle-
men who were to form the executive council.
Chief Justice Blackburne.—What because of the voting
papers after they bad been used ?
Winne —Mr. Halpin, the secretary, got them.
By the SolieitorGeneral.—l sever saw the ballot papers
from that evening until three or four days ago.
This cloud the examination in 614.
Mr. Whiteside rose to cross-examine the witness, but
Chief Justice Black` urns sup sled that the court should I
adjourn for a quarter of an hour.
The Attorney-General—Then, my lord, I have to request
that the sheriff will accommodate this gentleman (the wit-
nem) with a room, to which no person can et scone, in order
that be may not be stared at. (Laughter.
Mr. Whiteside—l insist that the gentleman may not be
permitted to leave the table.—Eventually the witness was
accommodated with a corner under the grand jurors' box.
—The court then adjourned.
At the expiration of a quarter of en hour the trial was re-
' slimed, and Mr. Whiteside proceeded to cross-examine
Mr. Dobbyn—l take no interest whatever in politics.
Mr. Whiteside: Then you are quite unconnected with the
political movement which Ins taken place in this country?
Witness: They went in to plot, sad I went in to counter-
plot.
Crom.examination isontinued.—Was a member of the
" Red Hood Club" from 16th January until its dissolution.
Did sot speak nor vote in It. There was no voting--Mr.
Whiteside: Were there any rules connected with that club?
Winner There were. There was a rule to the effect that

all repealer. might become members of the club, but
it did not exclude others who were not repealer., or those
who were confederates.—Mr. Whiteside: Now, sir, tell me
did you draw upon your memory or your imagination for
the name of your club—the " Red Hand Club ?" Wane s% :
It was not I who gave the name to it.—Mr. Whiteside : Did
any such club ever exist? Witness: On my oath it did.—
Mr. Whiteside: Is there on this earth any living man but
you to prove that the club existed at all ? %Vitae's: I don't
know. The meeting on the ldth of July was a private meet-
ing, acne owe was admitted who was not a representative.
As the representative of a club I went to have my dub called
over, but it wa- not called.—Mr. Whiteside. I find that at
that meeting the following gentlemen were elected repre-
sentatives of dubs: Mr. T. D. M'Clee, Mr. Richard O'Gor-
man, jun. Mr. J. Smith. Mr. Stephen ?Stoney, Mr. J.
Dercey, Mr. O'Halloran, Mr. J. Brennan, Mr. O'Rorke,
and many others. Now do you know any of those persons?
Witness: I could identify some of them, but there an
others I could not identify if they were to walk into court
aow,—Mr. Whiteside: Now, sir, the name of your club is
net mentioned in this newspaper, which contains the names
of all the clubs whew representatives were appointed at that
meeting I—Witnen : I know it is not; my name did not
appear until the night of the 21st because my club was a
branch club. Vial swear that I saver read a resolution
passed by the casfederation, to the effect that the confedm a.
tion was anxious to uphold religion, whilst it disclaimed
any sectarian feeling.—Did not make any speech at
that meeting.—Mr. O'Brien said the persons at the
meeting should leave it in sections of fin. The only
person I recognised as chairman was Mr. O'Brien. He said
that the organisatior was incomplete, at the came time he
wits talking of what had been said about resetting Mr.
Duffy. He spoke of rather going to the gallows than that
any man should lose his life on his account by any prema-
ture step. He did not say that if he wen in Mr. Duffy's
place he would rather forfeit his life en the gallows than
that any other person should lose his life on his account.
Mr. Whiteside.—Did he not apply that observation to the
rescue of Mr. Duffy I—They were talking about the break-
ing out of the insurrection, and there was a general convene-
tion as to what the clubs should do if the prisonerswere eon-
viand. Did not Mr.O'Brien according to your own account,
say that he would rather forfeit his life than that any one
should lost his life by him ; did he not say that after the talk
about the rescue of Duffy ? He said it twice.—Did he after
the observations as to the rescue ? I believe—l think so.
Mr. O'Brien here said—l beg your lordship's pardon. I
am not familiar with the proceedings of courts of justice, but
I submit that, as your lordship has reonded what the wit-
ness said unfavourable to me, you ought also to take down
the answers that ere favourable tom ease.—Chief Justice
BBlackburn: Hew do you know that y I am not doing so ?
Mr. O'Brien : I did not see your lordship do it —Chief
rice Blaekbutne: You had better not interfere.—ln reply to
en observation from Mr. Whiteside, the learned judge said
he bad taken down every word that was favourable to the

_,contused.—Mr.Whitsaide In the inter-
val between the ldthaad 19th, the proclamation against arms
teas issued. The latter meeting was held to defeat the ends
of the prochusation.—Was that what was stated in the re-
quisition ? I look to the art and not to the words of the
requisition.—Was not that meeting called by a separate re-
quisition ? I tell you I didn't see it. It was another person
who told me the meeting was going on, and that I should go
there.—Who told you that? A person • lam not going to
tell you.—You most. I won't.—l tell you, sir, yen
shall tell me. I won't tell you —Mr. Whiteside
(energetically) : I tell you I mast have it out of you.—
The witness (in a harsh yet tremulous tone) : You won't
have it out of se.--Me. Whiteside (with increased onargy):
I demand that you shall answer me.—Witner : Do you
think 111 give up a man to be marinated by the clubs of
Dublin fa your prams ?—Upon your oath do you believe
it would be my pleasure that a man should be asmainated ?
—Witness: I put myself ander the protection of the court.
—Mr. Whiteside : Very well ;do so, and we shall see what
the result of that will be. Now tell me the name of the isereon
who sent you to that mosting.—l told you before that I don't
mean to give his name. There are certamsamee I am notgoing
to give, and the reason I would not give them to you is, that
they would be held no tor assassination by the tithe of
Dublin. Upon my oath they would. I know they would,
because I have been li-tening to them plotting and concoct-
tint asearsinations.—Mr. Whiteside: See, Mr. Dohbyo, you
shall act temps under that itourish.—Piitrese : Very well ;
put myself under the protection of the court.
Mr. Whiteside—l insist, my lords, on his answering my
question. After some discussion as to whe'her the commu-
nication was to be considered a privileged one, Chief Justice
Blackhurne delivered judgment. We have considered this
question, and the result is, that we don't feel ourselves
e died upon to compel the witness to answer the question.—
Did you meet your friend again that day ? I caw him at
night. I have seen him very often since.
Chief Justice B:ackburne : Was be the medium of your
communications with government ?-IVitncss : I think so,
my lord.
By Mr. Whiteside: I voted that nigh' for votive redr-
aws,. Mr. O'Brien did not vote.—What kind of arms did
you see with the Conan Club, and when i—rsaw urns with
teem at the time of Mr. Mttchers trial going in and out of
the club-room in Capet-street. I saw them parading through
the street, and marching rank and file, carrying arms
openly, about ten o'clock at night, in Capel.street. I saw
than ironing and going into their clubroom, No. 99, at di&
hem* tiara, with muskets sometimes, and with pikes
at Okra—You told me there was a handy man
of your acquaintance that made these things cheap?
—Yes ; be asked me if I would get one, and
the: .he coat of the material would be 13s. ed. That
man is alive. I believe his house was s'erched by the'
police—Mr. Whiteside : And they found nothing there ?
Witness: That showed that the police did not attend to the
thing in time.—Were you ever in the north? I was.—Did
you tee the Orangemen with their arms? I did—Mr.
Whiteside : Yea stated that at the meeting, which I will
call the proclamation meeting, there was tome conversation,
and you gave five different accounts of it. You said first
that it was stated the meeting was to be held for " important
purposes; " that it was a m.ettng to review the clubs ; that it
was to arrange the clubs; that it was to appoint a sub-
committee ; and, lastly, that it was for the purpose of
sleeting an executive council. Which of these accounts
is the true one ? Witner : They are all true. I andentand
that the words " impotent business " include then, rill.—
Mr. O'Brien was not a representative of a clue. He reviewed
the clubs. Tke council of the Confederation had ellaseel to
exist in form at this time, but in effect It was in 'astray in
the Irish League which was then in existence and Golding

its meetings. All the members present were disposed to i
elect Mr. Smith O'Brien; but Mr. Dillon objscted, and said
that Mr. O'Brien wished not to be elected on the council, as
he would be better able to organise the country if he were
not. The Rev. Mr. Kenyon was apt elected a member of
the council. Mr. Govan Duffy wrote a letter from the
prison, requesting that Fathers O'Malley, Kenyon, end
Hughes, together with some others, should be elected mem-
bers of the council; the parsons present unanimously refused
to sleet a pellet, es it was to be a council of war. I swear
that upon my oath.
Several of the voting papers wire here handed to the
witness, and upon an examination of than it was racer-
tabled that seven vote, had been given for the Rev. Db.
Kenyon.
Mr. Whiteside-eNow, Sir, do you persevere in the state-
ment that it was unanimoudy resolved in the first instance
not to vote for a priest ?—Witness : It was said without aoy
decision being come to that no priest should be elected, be-
cause the council was for war.—The Rev. Mr. O'Malley's
name is on those voting papers I—But he was not elected.
Mr. O'Brien's name appears once on the voting pap, n, but
It is crowed out. I wee neither president `nor secretary, but
I was a member of the comm tied of the Red Hand Club ;
there was no president.—Mr. Whites de : Tell me say living
man who was a member of that club ?—Witness : Tree rem-

tars was named O'Callaghan, but be has gone to America. I
don't think it prudent to give you the names of any of the
other penons.—Mr. Whiteside: So we are not to get the
names of our brother conspirators. (Laughter.) Now, Sir
what is your profession 2—Witness: I am a protestant—
(Laughter.)—Mr. Whiteside: You know, air, I did not
mean your religion ; I meant what is your trade ?—Witness :
I are a clerk.—Mr. Whiteside : Who sent you to the clubs
in the respectable position of an informer ?—Witness: The
gentleman I mentioned before; it was in January I fiat
become connected with the clubs.—Mr. Whiteside: Did you
get any cash?—Witness: On my oath from the time I
became connived with the clubs, up to the preer nt, I never
got any gratuity or money. I expect nothing but
the protection of a subject.—Mr. Whiteside: Then
you are a gratuitous informer. Now, sir, did you
not obtain admittance into the clubs by telling
falsehoods, representing yourself as a sincere repealer,
and then entering into a counter-plot as you have expressed it /
—Witness : I entered into a counter-plc!, and succeeded in
defeattue their object—Mr. Whiteside ; Oh, my good fellow,
;ou re not hanged your men yet.—Witness: I did not
:pea of hangi". e made any informations, and did
not know that r would be cell::: 1150 as a until
few days before I received the et..bpecns. I kept notes and
memoranda, and gave copies to the crown.—Mr. Whiteside:
And after this is over don't you expect to make a Bile ex
manioc somewhere 2—Witness : I do rot know ; lam ac-
quainted with Mr. Halpin, but I don't know where he is at
present The last time I saw him was at the meeting on the
21st, after which they all lied.
Constable Thomas Griffin, examined by Mr. Scott.—Knew
James Labor; arrested him on the 28th of July last at Ba.ly-
bane, in this county. He was in bed. A black beg was on
the table in the room. Opened the bag and found in it a
roll of papers. (The papers were produced.)
Mr. Fitzgerald.—How do you know the papers produced
were the same ?—I marked them.
Mark Fender, one of the detective police, was examined
by Mr. Sausse.—Was a Dublin constab'e. Remembered
July 22. Was on duty in plain clothes at the Felon-offiee.
Identified Mr. O'Brien. Saw him between 7 and 8 o'clock
in a tar in Dame-street, with a travelling-bag and a blue
cloak on his arm, going in the directi:m of Sc. Andrew-street.
The name of the carman was Patrick Neale,
Patrick *Henna, examined by Mr. Lynch.—Was a mail
guard on Wexford night mail. On July 22 took up two
centlensen at Leiehlinstown, one of whom he thought was
Mr. Heather. They got down at Ennimorthy. Arrived
them at 25 minutes past 6 in the morning.
Cross-examined.—They were not disguised.
Frans Denney: lam a constable. I was stationed at
Euniscorthy on Saturday, the 22nd of July last. I saw Mr.
Smith O'Brien there; he alighted from the car and asked
about 100 peuple assembled whether they were all repealer,,
and I heard no answer. I saw Mr. Meagher arrive in the
town on Sunday. Mr. O'Brien addressed the people from a
ear, end said he was glad there was a club formed in the
town, but regretted that its members were so few, and that
it bad not received the support it should get in so poptil.us
a place. Ile oho said that a club shoul•i be formed in every
town, and that parish clubs should be formed to complete
the organism iota. He ale, said he was happy to see eu meny
of the police 'present, as they were a fine body of men, all
Irishmen, and that they should be treated as friends till
they proved themselves otherwise ; that he was received in a
friendly manner in many parts of Ireland by a great portion
of the Hritich soldiery. He alto alluded to the suspension
of the Habeas Corpus Act, and said that he did not know
but at that moment the wile. had a warrant for his ar-
rest ; he likewise celled on the people to prepare for an)
emergency. That is all I remember. Mr. Meagher spoke
next. Mr. O'Brien introduced him, saying " Mr. Meagher."
Mr. Meagher said he always was, and ever would remain,
the unrelenting enemy of the British government. That be
had the honour a short time ago to address 60,000 Tipperary
men, who were ,
.prepared, or who had sworn I don't keow
which, to do their duty. He next alluded to the difference
he had with the late Mr. O'Connell, but I cannot remember
the words.
_ . . . .

The Attorney-General: Give us the substene•.—Mr.
Whiteside objected to the substance being given M such e
remote time.—The court decided that the substance might
be received in es idence.

Examination continued: Mr. Meaghcr said, " The only
way he could make amends for his conduct with reference to
Mr. O'Connell would he to take the flag of lioerty and plant
it on his tomb." Mr. Dillon was next introduced.

Mr. Whiteside: Mr. Dillon was not Introduced by Mr.
O'Brien, and I object to the speeches of anther person
being put in evidenes.—The court overruled the objection.
Witness : Mr. Dillon spoke from the same c v on which
Mr. O'Brien stood. He said he would not make a speech,
as he hoard the Wexford men were not good for making
'perches or holding political meetings—that they were i,nve
and determined—that they all had a goo in the corner and
kept their powder dry, and were sleeve sure to hit their
mark. That is all I can rem _mbar. No one else spoke.
The car left the town immediately afterward, (about one
o'clock), and all three gentlemen went together. They
went the toad which led either to the county of Kilkenny
or Carlow, _

J. Dowling examined: lam a police constable. On the
23rd of July I was stationed at Craignemanagh, in the county
of Kilkenny. I saw Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Meagher, and Mr.
Dillon there, about four o'elock in the evening. They drove
in on a car. Mr. O'Brien addressed the assembly amend
him at the house of Gen. Cloney. The crowd consisted of
three or four hundred persons. Mr. Meagher also addressed
the people. Mr. O'Brien stood by his side. I heard • por-
tion of Mr. Meagher's speech. He said ho was " a young
man, just entered into political life, sod one of the young
gement:on, and that he was then addressing one of the old"
(meaning thereby Gen. Cloney en insurgent of '9O).
Mr. Whiteside peotestedbnanst the witness giving farther
411111•01, as the words he just used showed clearly that
be vas • hies! partisan.—The court directed the witness
Os
continued.—Mr. Meagher further stated that
be ba been travelling through Ireland, and that ClUt4 were
hewed la several towns. He also said a dub was formed at
Isaiseerthy and another at Kilkenny, and that he
bed bees informed a club was also to be formed se
the pine where he then was and that it would
be a good movement. He likewise said that the
Sabre Corpus Act bad been suspended, and that the
peernment might take the noblest man in the land
mei put him in prison during their pleasure; he further toll
the people to bo aware of the claws of the law, and not to
ematialt a breach of it. Mr. Dillon also spoke • few words:
be said that there was a warrant for the arrest of Mr. Smith
O'Brien, and he asked the crowd whether it a number of
dbcame to arrest Mr. OBrien. would they let him
is taken TN. people answered " No." Mr. Dillon then
sited all who were ready to act to hold up their hands, and
all the people held up their hands. The gentlemen then
went to the hotel and drove away, taking the direction of
Kilkenny.
Mr. Bake, county inspector, Kilkenny, examined by Mr.
&muse : I saw Mr. O'Brien on the 24th of July ; he was
walking with • son of Dr. Cane', in Kilkenny. 1 saw him
drive on a ear through Kilkenny with two other gentlemen
whom I don't kacw ; they drove in the direction of Callan,
in the middle of the day.
Edward Stephens, a boy about 15 or 16 Teen of age,
examined by Mr. Lynch : I live in Kilkenny. (The wit-
ness identified Mr. O'Brien after some hesitation.) I saw
Mr. O'Brien in Kilkenny on the day of the cattle show, and
saw him go op on the top of the tower of the cathedral.
Police constable Robert Mabony was examined by the
Attorney-General, and deposed that be saw Mr. O'Brien,
Mr. :Umber, aud another gentleman in Callan on the
24th of July ; a number of the people assembled in
the street, and were going to make • bonfire for
them ; each of them addressed the people, Mr. O'Brien
first. After looking at a nate he took of the speech on
the same day, the witness proceeded to detail it to the court.
He keeled that Mr O'Brien, addressing them as " friend*,
policemen, and soldiers," said he was glad to see them Cure,
that he put the same question he put elsewhere—namely,
whether it he was arrested would they let hint go; they said
they would not. He also said he was glad to see the police,
Our:, and that it would be better lase them to be under an
Irish government then under Englisli and Scotchmen.
lie called upon them to organise their clubs, and be ready, as
the time was at hand. Mr. Meagher said he was g.ed to KO
53 many wearing the green (alluding to the police, as witness
thcught) ; thet he expected to wear tae green henself hefere
long. He culled upon the people to mat them as brother Irish-
men, and told them that their fathers, mothers, brothers, and
sisters were (merle them. He said there were oaly two detrac-
tive:a—either to lie clown and have the halter placed rowel their
necks, or make one bold, deteemiued effort to throw aff the
Deke, and make Ireland a free and independent nation ; Mr.
illon spoke also.—Cross-examined by Mr. Fiteserald : Mr.
O'Brien said that the police were doing their duty under the
English government.
Patrick Coekran, police constable: I was stationed at
Carrick on the 24th of July last. A media: took phew in
the Main-street on the enerior of that day. I saw Mr.
O'Brien addrem the unwire from the house of John Pur-
cell. He spoke from the beleeny outside the ain.iow. I
thiek there were three er four thousand onions prnent.
On appearing as the beleony Mr. O'Brien said he was
eurprised and delighted to ree the large assembly that ap-
peared before him ; particu.arly as he had arrived urn:-
pettedly. He said ho admired th -ir eathuabeen ; but the
best way he could test the feelings of their hearts was 1p
calling them at one to the field. lie red ihe wee about to be
mede a victim to English minale end linglish declination ;
but there was a time gone by when, if any of his Woo I or
InCefl'Agi were about to be wised on, no matter by whom,
there were strong arms and stout hearts who would no:
allow It. He asked them would they allow it ? The answer
from ie., newel was, "No •, never." He said he knew they
alto lead serene nerves and stoat news; that be wanted nei-
ther lesee ..or emolument; ilia: he had" tact:rico' near and

dear family dee, and that he was then determined with them
to sacrifice life, but that was hot the time for speecbing. Mr.
O'Brien then retired. Mr. Meagher then addressed the crowd.
He said when last he appeared among them he was en busi-
ness connected with his country, but now he was on govern-
'sent bushier, far the government had advanced a step lately.
He then alluded to the arrest and transportation of Mr. Mitchel.
He said he was one of the moat gifted citizens of this island,
and he talked of five others who were equally gifted that
were arrested ; he complained of the government for having
transported Mr. Mitchel ; he said it was by means of packed
juries, and I can't say whether it was bloody or perjured
judges he said. He said that every step the government ad-
vanced he would advance one to meet them ; that the scenes
of '9B were talked of, but they could cnly punish them with
death, and he war ready to meet it in defence of hie unLappy
country. He compared Ireland to a French fire.ship, which
had tank only for a moment to rise train into a glorious
republic. He hurtaed then for a republic. He said
the time was conic when they should strike the blow ;
it was decreed not here (Mr. Meaghi r then poisiud to
the heavens, and said)—not here, but above. He told
them he was ready, but they should not do anything her-
riedly or Ina utilised manner. He said he would give them a
law hours to deliberate and again told them he was ready
after these speeches the people went away. I saw several
persons at the window of the house, but I don't know them.
I know John Olditiony, and I saw him at Pniceh's beau
at the time ; the crowd appeared terr.hly excited.
Mr. Whiteside—When was that paper from which you
refreshed your memory written I—Witness : This paper was
written since I came to Clonmel.—Mr. Whiteside: Did you
not give me to understand that those were the original notes
which you took of teose speeches ? Witness : I sail it was
a true Gov of the nriginaL
Mr. Whiteside commented moistly on the conduct of the
wham in representing the copy of the notes which ho lad
taken as originals.
Crou trail:limit:on resumed: I am net in the habit of re-
parting ; Mr. Gore Jones was present at the meeting I have
reterred to. I stood actor get the crowd, and hod no perils
or paper in my hand. I read over the intormstion against
Mr. O'Brien this morning. The informations are the oriiri-
nal; as I was obliged to turniai them in a hurry to Mr.
Jones. 1 at.erwards tank notes from the informations.

Mr. Whiteside: My lords, the speech of Mr. O'Brien is
given verbatim from the infrrmations, and it is quite clear
that this tritium committed it to memory this morning.
(To the witness) : Did you read over the information con-
taining Mr. bleagher's speech ? Witness: Certainly not, as
i tad not expect I rrouid bu called en to state anything about
that. (Lattchter.)
Mr. Whiteside here reed the original information made by
the witness, which did not contain any reference to the
French fire-ship, the bloody judge*, the republic, or the
"hurrah ter the republic."
On roessoniortion by Mr. Scott the wi,ness stated that
be mentioned to Mr. Jones, before whom the infirroation
was sworn, something about the tire-ship rod the republic,
but the informa•ion was made in such haste that he omitted
portiors of th, speech. It be had time to recollect he could
have lidded army other warms to the speech.—Mr. White-
side: You could improve upon it, no doubt.
John Hamilvat, a police-osinstahln, wss examined to prows
th, &live, y tit the speech swoon to by the previous witneee.
His testimony wee corroborative in oil essential particulars.
On cross examination he admitted that be had learned Mr.
O'Brieu's speech off by heart.
Tole court was then adjournei at half put sea o'aleek until
Monday ()n,tenlay) morning at nine.
Four peltosmen, with their plum; were brought on the
Itable with their es:Lines, into e.t.a: cusioly the jury Ude
duly delive.ed for the night, alter haying beta sworn to
keep them sale.

Ms. DTPYT AND vice " Barone."-The following
letter from Mr. Gsvau Duffy appeersin the Dahlia Frumsars's
Journal :-Nirsrkato rriann, Sept. 29.-Dtar Str,-.11 friend
has this moment sent me a copy of the Expresso{ yesterday
eon:kitties; a base and pat meditated libel upon me. I Lava
borne many plandos m elenee since I cone within then
walls, but this one is beyond my patience. No prison rules
et ell !or a memeut prevent me from eon-radictiug it-I would
contradict it if the scaffold were the penalty. The Irish coy-
respoucent of that journal writes as hollows:
Dublin, Sept. 27.—A Duet startlicg and eignificant conclusion as.
rived at by one of the parties accused of high treason, and nut oar trial
at the OOMMLI8k)11, hal acme to my knowledge to-Liar. It to tf en
extraordinary a nature that I should not alone hesitate to state it, but
should meet it with positive disbelief, if my authority was not such as
to leave no room/or doubt. 31y hiformation Letitia. formal Duthie has
been this (oleo.n given to the goveroinent that [dogma literary leader
of the confedet ate movemeot—the great erne...lcier of ID plans -the
great arch teat of its erg 0318111011 - ho who sus :he life and soul of the
party—the organi.er of the eubs, the sugdester of ainhateadurshipa
nod of edlicitations of foreign aid -in fact, the head and front 01 the
Nation bas this day mead it to be announced to the government,
thtoagh lra eolicnor, that he does not buena to put the govenvii. nt
to the labour of a prosseution is bis ease, but that he is prepared to
plead guilty to whateset indictment the crown may prefer againet
him, Dimwit:l4 loniselt on the mercy of the executive to dispose of
bins as may Item titling in the taco of one who does not even rims-
, don its authority, much lean offer any opposition to Its paramount
°iteration. The time of making this submission to rot tom exttaardl-
racy than is tie fort that i. has been made. The Influence which it
most have upon the approaching trials must be very great, and that
inflorace it will be bnpossiale to avoid if, 6111 I beieve' the tact itself
will be whitely announeed to-morrow in the publiejournals. Thos
Dot of Mr. Dulfy's sums.aim having been but Just communicated to
me I have nu further time to dwell on It at pet sent.
I presume, air I need toot assure you that this is a lie, from
beginning to end-a lie so base anti extravagant that lam
almost ashsmtd to contradict it. How i' came into the
Erpress I sh .11 ro• at present inquire ; but I would, as
you may easily believe, make large unowaucc for the mis-
takes incident to newspaper correspondence, neoe eerily
written on the spur of the moment, If I had net observed
more than one misrepresentation of me by this same writer
since I mane into Anion -Illierepresentatitho apparently de.
signed (but most vainly) to sow dissensior s between me and
my dear and honoured triewl, Smith O'Brien. It is a dis-
creditable trade obis gentleman has taken up, and I predict
he will n t thrice upon it -I am, deter sir, very truly y ours,
CDAI34,ES GATAN DuFFI.

[That our Gorse mondent has any personal &feeling
againn Mr. Duffy we have no reason to believe. He has
submitted to us the authority on which he made the state-
ment referred to, and assuredly no one would have hesitated
to assume i•ri accuracy.]