The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-27 00:00:00

Mee , arl if the revitw was also gable to meet she
gems, then the ales should bs extended till it
@mask the whole kingdom. With regard to the
Aioadas soh to the priaciple of a rate ia aid,
1M en the pert of the government, had no kositatitat in say-
* that he would MOWN Ike income tax instead, if the
fibers from Ireland preferred it. (" Hear, hear," and
6.giener.) But as the rate in si I weld be made inandistely
a}Pigable foe the relief of Metros which wag largess, and as
loco was at present me machinery in Ireland for collecting
is blues tax, 1 • could not at meant eabetitute the one
gg the other. And, indeed, he did not understand that the
Mouser tax wee seriously propeasel on the present occasion.
Ne understood the boa. gentleman to say that he would vote
ge • sonunittes to inquire whether they would be
rut in imposing an income tax on Ireland,
tut for himself he wanted no inquiry, as
he wag Ens:oced that Ireland bore her fair proportion of
igatise. (hear.) All the arguments of the hot,. gentleman
wog to avow that the resources of the imperial exchequer
egad be made available for the relief of Irish destitution.
Bet the hoe. member for Noithamptonehire °Neared to
es Sew the imperial Exchequer ;Altogether. He slid
C: eh • differential tax dim between the two clienteles was
12,000,0007., and whet he asked fir as se Irish pr
was that the taxation should be mode equal. The hon.
gildsman did not concur in that view ; all that he
wog prepared to do was to vote for • commit-
s to inquire into the fiscal relations between
the two countries The hon, gentleman disclaimed the
ilea of Wavier; the di.treesed districts to shift for them-
gam. ILO admitted the urgency of the distress, but he pre-
med no means of relieving it; be offered no substitute for
aja plan of the government. (Hear.) The bin gentleman
who had just at down raised a constitutional objection to the
Maitre. lle charged the government with the intention of
@skies parliament to sanction a vote of 100,0001., without
being rare that parlament would sanction the bill under
which it was to be raised. The hon. gentleman bad mis-
taken the proposition of the government. What
his right hon. friend proposed wee this, that
the teemd reading were agreed to he should propose, be
thee going into committee on the bill, to move in committee
at the whole Louse, that 100,0001 be voted on the security of
the rata in aid. It was not prepared to advance the money
mmetiosed y suck reselutioo, but to Insert • clause to that
feet in committee, making it a part of the bal. But if the
bill was upend by either hoes. of pentium/sat, then the vole
geoid fall to the ground, with the security on which It
rusted. With Tossed to the objection that the go-
voistsest introduced no alteration• in the poor law,
the answer was that it wee Bought better t.. wait
iler the result of dee committee bitting on that solject before
tbey td the amendments which the government had
Kmrd they would be prepared to inabsait. Redid not think
that the hon. member for Kerry did the government justioe
when he said that they shrank behind the want of unanimity
gamest the Irish members. He said that they counted e n
the po.,r law as a reams of relieving Us distress without
elimmlating the employmeat of the labouring elute.. That
was not altogether the case, because the government had
afforded the means to the landlords of that county of
employiee the labouring population in land improvement,
arterial drainage, in giving assietanee to • 1 eras railway
company, and in the improving of ports and herhoure. No
ins than 2.500,0001. had been lent to peruse who were
themselves interested in the improvement of the land, which
our a better aad more economical mode of giving employ-
meat to the pow than if the government took the task upon
thestylves. (Hear.) That, he thought, wee the meet efiL
dent ar d benetkill mode in which the employment of the
Mooring poor weld he stimulated. (Hear, hear.) The
government did not think itorigkt to aspersed. these
who bad • direct interest in the imp comment
of the land, bet they afforded them the means
of obtaiaiag money on essi. r terms than they could
got it in the' market, sad he was glad that advantage had
been takes of it, for they met only improved the value of the
had thereby, but they stimulobed employment in the more
desirable way. (Hear, hear.) He would not now go into
the wes' principle of a rate in min.He hoped parliament
ImM not reject this measure till sine better mode of meet.
lag the evil was proposed. It was necessary that some tem.
'wary method of relief should be immediately applied is
order to Nave the people from that starvation with which they
were now threatened. (Hear.)
W. STAFFORD, with reference to the scheme of Sir R.
Peel, which be acknowledged had occupied • meneiderable
demo of angelica across the Maisel, thought it woe due to
the people of Ireland that, bets. this discuesion cloud, the
government should distinctly rate whether or no they had
say intention to carry It out. This remark draw • smile
bum Sir theory Grey, at whisk Kr. Stafford appeared
to be somewhat settled. He then repeated his sell
fns en tzplssetias of the extent of destitution, and
the calculated amount of the rate. But it wee one
thing to ur ke • rate, and another to levy one. The melting
of eacollected rate in November last was 800,11001 The
gist et his opposition was, that is some unless if the Me
were levied they would he Meted, whilst the sum mini
weld be only a drop in the ocean of Connaught misery.
Drawing • gloomy picture of the future, he u ged upon the
hum very emphatically the injustice and the s-rims ven-
ialness of determining merely the question of the facility
SI emeeties, and orbtete, a rate exclusively upon the most
distressed classes of their fallerer-eitigene.

Mr. M. O'CONNELL said her Mejesty's provernmeat
Ind overlooked the diEerent nature of the two chief aim.
time urged to their MINIM ; the one applying to the *Nes.
dal ea the part of them is Ireland shady too besvily op
pessed, and whsee Lamas had beat advocated by the
gallant member for Loogiord ; the other, in which he
did not concur, reprtheated by the.. why advocated
toirenlist interests of the north of Ireland. He
propos* largely to transfer the burden—by alow.
he the tenant who paid the extra tate of 61. to deduct the
whole smount paid es that me t from his tto the
landlord, and allowing the leadkiTi to deduct srep:oportion
ban the iamunbrasetworhether is the form of mortgages or
family settlements. He would also taw it to be paid by
WI officials having IldarillS of 3001. a per. This wou'd re-
spire no new sachthery, sad act in the way of ea Moose
tax to seer:an extent.