The Express.
London, England, 1851-08-09 00:00:00

—those who were roma ha a direct tax ea repee=tri I
the Ch
of lashopier. who eamilted
began the herr by op* that sr ispeerrest raid be '
reds fa the peeler lisle Ob.*. the tag; whereas lis 1,
own oaten peeved that great imarereredeamlght be wade
in that copse. (Hear, hear.) He aeaM net lIIIIMMISMIki ,
why the metro should be opposed, eel he his aphiles. it
was only herkint the inforratlea rhos. (Mae, ha
Mr. J. WILSON sell that the manse we trite in.
essookre.
1 Mr. HENLEY :said that two warner wham the boa.
gentlemen himself wished to have eararsd wen rat
peed to give their evidence on the last day the
eaearßW
mat The same bon. gentleman also wished to bah some
geetlerera who were here from the United States examined
as to the mode of taxing property in the United litabs.
' and, in order to have their evidence, the committee meat
upon another branch of the inquiry. He thought it wookl
be throwing dust in the eyes of the public to give them
' aueh partial information. ("Hear, 'tear," and cries of
"Divide.')
Mr. RICARDO said the public could judge for them-
selves of the value of the evidence as well as the hoe. gen-
tleman or the committee. (Hear, hear.) Being incomplete
Ibe did not think the public would derive much advantage
from its publication ; but, if it was so mysteriously kept
think from them, they would think that they, was some-
thing in it which the house did not wish to have published.
(Hear' hear.)
The house then divided—
For the motion 52
Againet
BALLOTING FOR MEMBERS
The balloting for members was then proceeded with. The
first names called were those of Lord Dudley Stuart, Sir A.
Brooke, Sir J. Duckworth, Capt. Scobell, Mr. Bernal.
Lord Paleurston and Mr. llobhouse were the last names
called.
Mr. HUME said that though he had opposed tbe resolu-
tion for giving precedence to cabinet ministers, by rule all
the members of that house being equal—(hear, hear)—he
would suggest that the members of the cabinet should, by
courtesy, be allowed to accompany the Speaker hint.
(War.)
Mr. HENLEY said that, as a courtesy, that was a privi-
lege which they would all be disposed to allow. (Cheers.)
TREATMENT OF PROTESTANTS IN ROMAN
CATHOLIC COUNTRIES.

Sir R. INOLIS wished to put the foUowing questions to
the noble lord, the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs :
Whether, in the event of an English church being built an
Rome, her Majesty's government were prepared to give car
molar protection to such church?—whether her Mae:11:
government were aware of an application to the Span
government for permission to form a burial-grouud near
Madrid, and if so, whether such permission was not accom-
panied with such conditions as were unfit for any civilised na-
tom to propose and for her Majesty's government to accept ?
—whether he was prepared to lay on the table the cones-
pondenn which had taken place respecting the cues of
Captain Pakenham and Mr. Mealy?
Lord PAI.3IERSTON said that as the correspond-
: earn with the governments of Tuscany end Rome was
still going on respecting the cases of Captain Paken-
ham and -Mr. Healy, be did not think it would be con-
sistent with hie duty to lay that correspondence on the
table at present. VI ith respect to the building of a cha
pel in Rome, tere R 23 the Consular Act, which provided
that wherever a h
consul or vice-consul was established, the
Secretary of State should be empowered to give the benefit
of that act, which consisted in this—that a chaplain might
be appointed, whose salary was to be paid in the tint place
by the resideats of this country, and then by the Secre-
tary of State from a public vote in that house. If an appli-
cation was made to have a chapel placed within the pro-
visions of that act, he saw no reason why it should be re-
fused ; but that act did not enable the consul to exer-
ci-e say authority over the chapel other than was con-
sistent with the law, of the country in which such
chapel was built. With regard to the other question,
having reference to the burial-ground in Madrid, it
was stipulated by ancient treaties that British subjects
should be allowed to construct and arrange a burial-ground
there. There was a British burial-ground, but its position
was too near the centre of the town, and therefore it came
within the act recently passed ,• and with regard to extra-
mural interments they had accordingly entered into corre-
spondence with the Spanish government for a chanrre of
burial-ground, and they at last obtained from the Spanish
governmeut permission to form another burial-ground,
but lie was sorry to say that this permission was &COMM
ponied with conditions, arising, u the Spanish government
represeuted, out of the law of Spain with regard to religions
opinions, which conditions her Majesty's government could
not regard bat with regret and pain. (liter, hear.) He
was ready to lay such portions of the correspondence as he
thought would be interesting to the house on the table.
(Rear, hear.)
Mr. B. COCIIRA'NE wished to know who was the offi-
cial organ of communication with Italy, whether Mr. Petri
or Mr. Freeborn ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that Mr. Petro was at pre-
sent the diplomatic organ, and Mr. Freeborn presided over
the consular department. In the absence of Mr. Pens,
Mr. Freeborn would be the only organ.
Sir It. INOLIS wished to know from the Under-Seen-
nry of the Colonies whether there was any record of as
ordinaucc in which a predominance was asserted for the
Roman catholic church of Malta, and whether her Majesty's
government hail given their sanction to any such •

naure
Mr. HAWES replied that no such ordinance as that to
which the bun. gentleman referred had yet come into the i
hand, of the Secretary of State. That document to which
he 'apposed the hon. gentleman referred contained certain
Provision, respecting an alteration of tne penal code, some
of which he could not approve of. (Hear, hear.)
t: RC I I RAT ES.
Mr. ELLIS moved that the evidence taken before the
Committee on ('hutch Rates be printed.
Sir It. INGLIS opposed the motion.
Sir D. Dead" Sir J. Duckworth, and Mr. Henley,
Inembers of the committee, said they fully understood that
the evidence was to be printed. (Iliac, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL hoped the hon. baronet would not
oppose the motion.
Sir R. INGLIS assented.
The SPEAKER said that the house had already ordered
the evidence to be printed. (Loud laughter.)
At this time ('SO minutes past 2 o'clock),
Mr. Psalms, Yeoman Usher of the Black Rod, entered
the house, and commanded, on the part of her Majesty,
the immediate attendance of the house in the House of
Lord,.
The Speaker, accompanied by Lord J. Russell and Lord
Palmerston, the only cabinet ministers present in the house,
and by the other members in the order in which their
, names were drawn from the ballot-boa, then proceeded to
the House of Peers.
After a few minutes absence the Speaker returned and
took his seat on the chair usually occupied by the chairman
of committees. Ile then proceeded to read the royal speech,
the members of the house standing round the table, after
which Lord J. Russell, Sir J. Graham, and the other mem-
, , tiers present. advanced to the Speaker and shook hands
with hint.
The members then left the house,