The Express.
London, England, 1846-10-21 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 21, 1846.

The corn would prove to be, according to infor-
mation procured from those wen qualified to judge.
an undoubted average crop, and the growth of
potatoes, which was spoken of with such despair,
would turn out to be very different from the public expecta-
tion. The fact was that immense quantities of potatoes were
kept back from the market last year until they were com-
pletely spoiled, in consequence of the calculations of the
monopolhda. His object in rising to speak was not to dimi-
nish any claim which the petitioner might have upon the
consideration of the court, but to prevent it from going forth
to the world that scarcity was expected, without accompany-
ing the statement with his denial. (Hear, hear.)
Ald. LUCAS said he thought it was reasonable in people,
when they found that the price of grain and other neeessa-
ries of life had risen all over Europe, to feel some alarm for
themselves. (Hear, hear.) For his part, he hoped there
would be enough for all ; but certainly his opinion was, that
the cultivation of the soil did not bear a fair proportion to
the increase of the population. (Hear, beer.) He believed
that the price of grain was as high in Paris or Dantsie as it
was in this country. He could not, therefore, help express-
ing his fears, and ho could not blame others for entertaining
apprehensions.
Sir P. LAURIE said that Alderman Fairbrother and he had
been lately visiting the corporation estates in Yorkshire, and
they had ascertained that one farm had not one bad potato
upon it. (Hear, hear.) The crops were very large.
Ald. Cuattts said it appeared to him that the present
question was not famine to the community, but famine to
the contractor and his family. (A laugh.)
Sir C. MARSHALL said he did not apprehend a famine,
but he thought that the unexpected dearness of food gave a
claim to the petitioner. (Hear, hear.)
The petition was then referred to the Gaol Committee.
THE EXPENSES OP THE SURVEY OP THE WESTERN
DP :CHIC/ OF THE THAMEB.—When the Court were passing
the several accounts, Alderman Musgrove said he observed
that one of these accounts was the water bailiff's, and one of
the items was 6901. fur the expenses of the survey by the
Lord Mayor of the western district of the Thames. He
expressed a wish to be informed by whom that item had been
paid.—The Water-bailiff: I paid tt—Ald. Musgrove : Upon
whose authority I—The Water-bailiff: By order of the
Lord Mayer himself.—The Court was then cleared for the
consideration of the communication from the special com-
mittee of the Court of Common Council in relation to the
election of a new City gaol.

THE BERKELEY FAMILY.—Mr. G. Berkeley has
addressed the following to the electors of the Western
Division of Gloucestershire:
Gentlemen sma a briar in the Morning Chronkle of
yesterday's date. , the examtlon of Mr. Pyrite, by
those who stisedi tai, adhd by lewd Fitzhardiege ea the
15th of September, et Gleasseeer, to the editor, 1 am emplied to
some reply. In this lair to the Nora* abranivie, these guide-
men write, " that they Ikea boned to state that the resehatica they
carne to at Gleameew, to magnet lewd Maharanee; in his unjust,
uneonaltatiemel„ od eppreashe dietation wine me, " was pin.
eipally ceased byes horded. that I. in the gear 1845, In the
strongest 'swam sanseimed ney delseadastionlmmediately to re-
sign my seat it Tallinn*, mists saseprirete arnuigement between
myself and Earl litzhardierge
_wee ithelsd.”
Now, to this assertion, whiskes=lernen sa" they feel bound
to make," 1 dist inetly severally, and separately, to
each of them, and deelarTelflist art ene seal among them told me that
which they now "site ° with& er tendered it to me at the meet-
ing on the 6th of Osestrir, as their -" Oast* sow date amyl is at
that " readmits." I amiere, sal I all iseistiela sq Assieratia in
each and every wade wry that mss may dime dm truth, that
the "pdardpoi" soma yeah them Seedered Oa see ter.
Pally (I hens ma It eh* to wetting wee, het Shag did not
support lard Ittahridlogs avast me, be bad emonneed his deter-
mination of net sag lireger prying heir reglandism. if tiny pre-
ferred he emitiare aisle sopped to no, ba wadi lest sonar
sge Sod ma,
he ormadol per we mere aseas.." ma pol lie they
many cram, releeemy abet sash nee the tallirese le sr,
turns hi boa amen lie ha, and isgeriNg I IMAM There was a
disputesmesetYeepmWmrastOriteir ea the 6th of Gather,
as to whither we were to eierlie that aml the meeting one the
13th Segbiselier, ailed by
_lad Iltaberdinge, es puddle tein-
vendans. They ewe divided Is their mbar' on the stab.
lost sal whelps the resew or " cause ' they now feel
lewd to Otte," is the me that snits the public appsrwsa
of the pad=; the Nee= they mow to me might be their
prise& marine. end I believe them te be the true ones. I did, "in
the pmeitie, in 1645, geminate my determination
to Lard end lo several gentlemen, of immediately re-
Mett="notherl,
breed me inhe • "'Mum whet imapecitaied ma from doing my duty
teassensftree &Mee, sad I Invite seek of these gentlemen
this istter in the Cassia% individually sad osi, to
me to Owego that dealantias if they ash that pro-ide
nendement• they are NOW hia to kg held at, lesselent
reeding*, and these gendemen, some of them, bora Mat it did us
welt at I de. Ms "prime -rengsenk" as thsgr it. riesitog
my publie mallion, I am menaced to explain to mg sensehrieni at
the right lime, if they ran it. I will not now farther loath on It,
as I scorn to call for any additional sympathy from the gablin or to
soon to seek friends other than Me abstract eolith quarrel may
require.
Ant now for their "blind adherence to an unexplained pin," end
for the docility with which they have been led ! I quote the letter of
a gentleman who attaches his nem to the resolution and to the letter
in the (-Weenie*, and, If necessary, 1 can quote others. On the "21st
of August," he writes thus; at that time Lord Fitzhardinm's veto had
nor been promulgated, and be (the writer) at leert then knew nothing
remarkable in ",ay position with my constituents." The letter I refer
to woo written in reply to one from me, asking for his MIMOrt,
rumours having reached pie of Lord Vitshardingea intended political
desertion. The gentleman wrote, "I have only to my I see no reason
why I should not support you ae I have always done; and if you wish
to come into this part of the world to see your constituents, I shall be
more glad to see you form long • time as you like to remain." By
the " 14th of September," which is the date of the next letter, the veto
Aad gone forth; and, in reply to a communication from me, the
same gentleman writes, "There are few things would pleese me
more than to serve you, but I cannot do so at the expense of
forsaking the earl, who is the oldest friend I hare In the
world. I have always supported his nominee, and I hope I shall ma-
tinee to do so. You tell me I promised to support you. 1 said / saw no
reaaon then why I should not give you my support as usual, but 1
trust this letter will explain to you why I cannot do so." I leave my
constituents and the public to judge of the why and wherefore, and
prose-d to deal with their further " blind adherence to an unex-
plained plan."
These gentlemen WOW state (they never mentioned his name to roe
on the Gth of October), " they have a pet fret knowledge of the gentle-
man who is to be a candidate for thesupport of the constituency, who
is to be acceptable to the whole body of the Liberal electors of the
western division." The "nominee" of "Earl Fitzhardinge." To this
somewhat overbearing and not overmodest announcement, I apply
the simple question—an interesting one, under the peculiar circa's-
atanees—to nay constituents; Who is this irresistible candidate!
What are his Politics and, if a Liberal, in what consists the difference
between us!
' Why do not these gentlemen, In their commission of dictatorship,
In which they seem likely to be dragged by their ruler through some
mire. and who seem to have determined in private with Lord Fits-
haolinge who is to be and who is not to be "acceptable to the whole
body of the liberal electors," slate who their "nominee" is It la
high time that he should be introduced to those they desire to be his
obedient followere.
I call on you, my Mends, the electors of the western division, te call
on these dictators to declare their "nominee." And more—if be still
lurks in the (lark, he lies under the allegation from me of being wil-
ling to await the result of, end to be brought into public notice by, the
tools of unjust oppression_ If he remains disguised, after all that has
passed, he risk, incurring the charge of pandering to a vicious influ-
ence, perilous to the liberal intense% and subversive of the real free-
dom of county representation.
/ tell these gvntlemen to name their man? whoever he be, he shall
have at my hands the fairest possible field, but, under the circling-
stoners, not the shadow of an approach to prone. If, when confmed
to the county, he is chomen in preference to me, and found to be more
worthy of public confidence, I will be the first to 'hake him by tne
hand; bmt oomtil that crest be peered, I spurn at sll attempted sawed-
nation of my public life, linked together as its happiest and proudest
days hare been with my country on either side the Bevan. The
line wherein these gentlemen " refer me to my position with my eon-
etituents," contains a suggestion with which I OM most desirous to
grapple. It ie to my constituents, to men infinitely above being swayed
by the present unhappy influence ruling over the male of Berkeley,
that I am desirous of appealing. If found wanting by them, by the
county at large, I will retire Into private life, whence I was reluctantly
called, and remain an inactive °teener of the great events still peed-
leg on the deliberations of Parliament—l have the honour to remain,
your obliged and faithful servant, GIANTLET Y. BERIELLICT.
Beacon Lodge, Oct. 17.
ORDNANCE SURVEY.--Sir,----In your journal of the
lab inst., TOO have commented largely upon the value of the Ordnance
survey. Knowing your promptitude to see justice done on all tridee,
I hope you will find a space for a few remark., 'dative to this under.
taking. You do not appear to be aware of bow those who actually
perform the work are remunerated ; or how the superintendents of
the survey trespass upon the set of parliament. The act was passed
for the "Completion of the Ordnance Survey of England," and not,
I presume, to enable the royal engineers to take work out of the
hands of the civil aurveyor. That they have done so and neglected
their public duty, will show. They have undertaken surveys and
mars of gentlemen's estates, of townships and unions foe pour-law
purposes, of parishes for the commutation of tithes, arc., at prices
that do not amount to half of what the civil surveyor would require
' to charge in order to live by. They can easily do this, because they
are paid by TWO master., and neglect their duty to one of them. The
public man for a time in thrown aside, to make way for the execution
of private maps. The civil starve IRS in Lancashire addremed a petition
to the ?taster-Oeneral &theordeenae on this subject, but obtained no
redress. Five mars have now expired since the act came into operation,
for enabling the Beard of Ordnance to carry out their work on a large
scale, and, 1 believe Lord Vivian stated in the House of Commons, In
answer to Mr. Hume, " That It should be gone on with in seat a
spirit as would enable Mow who were entrusted with its execution to
complete it In five or eta yearn, but anspetent Surveyors were diffi-
cult to obtain." Now, I am persuaded, that there is not much more
than IiAL7 or on of the six Northern Counties Beaverton, much less
ready for publication, and five years gone. So that the public are
thus disappointed, by the Royal Engineers taking other work that
the art of parliament says nothing about. They have bad maps of
the Bridgewater Matte, for the Earl of Ellesmere on their bands ix
two or three yeas, beeides other work railway plena, he. Why is
the public work neglected! It is an imposition upon professional
men. The Royal Engineers are proverbial for never doing anything
correctly at first; they traverse over the same ground a dozen times ;
it is five years lance they began In the neighbourhood of Bradford and
Leeds, yet they arc there still, not finished yet. But this may be Re-
counted for; they pay their men so wretchedly. The surveyors receive
lower pay than any labourer that Is employed in this kingdom.
Then again they have draughtsmen, than whom better cannot be
found In the kingdom ; they receive less or about the same as a rail.
way excavator. You may praise their work and their p ogress • but
I ask yyoonu,, sir, is it not a shame for a government to be the bead 'am
establishment that rewards their operadres in this manner. You
remark that the survey ought te be done in the shortest peesibie time
bow can it when those who ought to serve the male won't mind their
own halms, end not interfere with that of the civil surveyeri—
SWORD.
[Our correspondent is angry, and, as a necessary conse-
quence, in some respects, leis than just. His assertions
respecting the under psyment of the draftsmen and men, we
have good reason to believe unfounded. We know too that
no officer in the service has devoted to private engagements
time which could be devoted to the public service. The
cause of the procrastination of the survey, is the niggardly
amount of the annual grant, and the inadequate mauntog
of the department for calculating, reducing. extending, and
engraving. The field surveyors are ahead of the indoor
workers. The latter have time on their hands, because too few
are employed to take their completed work from them. Our
correspondent (if really a surveyor) cannot imagine that the
repetition of observations implies inaccuracy at first, or that
it is suffieihnt to account for the delay of which he, with
truth, complains. The repeated observations are no more
than are required to ensure the requisite confidence in a
great national work. They would not stop the progress of
the survey if calculators, extenders, &c., were employed in
sufficient numbers to keep up with the field-work. It is
no ground of accusation against the officers that they
employ the time which the injudicious parsimony
of the Government leaves on their hands in private
employment. If they are enabled to perform such
work at lower rates than civilians (and the extent to which
they can do this is greatly exaggerated by our correspond-
ent), it is not owing to their being paid for survey-work
which they do not perform, but to their receiving thew pay

las military officers. The true way to remove them ont of the
way of surveyors exclusively dependent on their profession,
' would be to extend the whole service of the survey to a scale
worthy of a great national undertaking, and thus enable the
field surveyors to occupy their whole time with their
duties. In justice to the civil surveyors, we would
suggest that the increased number of employes ren-
dered necessary by such a measure ought to be
taken in equal proportions from civilians and military.
The survey is no longer • mere Ordnance survey,
with a view to a military map; it is a national survey, with
a view to a map the military use of which is its least im-
portant one. The Ordnance survey was resumed after
an interruption, in part for its importance as a practical
school of military draftsmen: the national survey ought
to ba made is contribute to the formation of a higher class
of civil surveyors. If, however, the civil surveyors
are to be employed on it, the state is entitled to
demaad some guarantee of their competence. The officers
of the Royal Engineers are educated to the profession,
and undergo severe examinations before they are admitted
into the corps. Let the civil surveyors form themselves into
a corporation, admission to which can only be obtained by
equally severe examinations. There are some able and ex ,
perienced men among the civil surveyors, but a far greater 1
number of incompetent. This was the reason why the
Royal Engineers were subetitated en the ordnance survey
for surveyors by contract ; and this, far more than cheapness 1
of execution, is the reason why the former are preferred by
private employers. We have only to add that, in surveying
for poor-law and tithe commutation purposes, the engineer
officers were engaged in the service of the public.]
WIDOWS AND ORPHANS OP CONNEMARA.—CaI.
Robinson, Managing Director of the Irish Waste Lands
Company, has ended our attention to the condition of this
part of the population on the west coast of Ireland, and the
adjoining islands. "There are many hundreds," be ob-
serves, 'of poor persons inhabiting the smell islands, and
other remote parts on the western coast, who have no able- I
bodied male representatives, having lost their fathers, brothers,
and sons, by the frequent shipwrecks on that dangerous I
coast, or by other dispensations of Providence, and who
have no person to work for them in their hour of need." In
that remote district, too, it must be kept is mind, there is
more difficulty in finding work for the able-bodied than else-
where in Ireland. These forlorn ones are surrounded by a
population who have, and can have, nothing to share
with them. There are no wealthy residents in
the region. Colonel Robinson has just returned
from his annual visit of inspection, and speaks
from recent personal observation. He is the more entitled
to attention that he resisted the contagious panic of last I
year, and gave an unexaggerated account of the then eartial
failure of the potato crop there. " This year," he save, " I
deeply regret to state the position of affeirs, and the con-
dition of the peasantry, are totally changed. In most parts
the potatoes have entirely failed, and famine with the
attendant horrors of disease and death must overrun the
west coast of Ireland, and will be the fate of many hundreds
of the poor and unprotected, unless supplied with food."
He states more specifically : " After a most careful personal
examination of 700 different fields, and noting down the
results on the spot, I found that every family which has
hitherto depended on the potato for provisions, will very
soon be without food, unless it can be derived from
some other source." The hapless class therefore,
to whose ease he calls attention cannot, to use
Colonel Robinson's expressive words, look, as in better years,
" to their proverbially kind fellow-peasants to ' divide with
the poor their last ?potato,' for they hare no longer the po-
tato to divide." By the assistance of some friends, Colonel
Robinson has been able to commence a subscription " for the
immediate relief of the widows, orphans, unprotected females,
and aged and decrepit inhabitants of Connemara," which
already amounts to 1301. To insure its prompt and impar-
tial distribution, several respectable residents in the district
have engaged to act as a local committee, among whose
names we read those of Lieut. Crokcr of the revenue ser-
vice, the Rev. John Lalley of Cams, and the Rev. Anthony
Thomas of Ballinakil. Subscriptions are received in London
at the bank of Sir John Lubbock and Co., and at the London
Joint Stock Bank. The London committee associated with
Colonel Robinson in this benevolent work are gentlemen of
high respectability.
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PATHOLOGICAL SOCIETY.--The first general meet-
ing of this new society was held yesterday evening at the
rooms of the Horticultural Society in Regent-street. The
chair was taken by Professor Williams, of University College
Hospital, the president, and the meeting was attended by
upwards of 200 persons, including the most eminent phrio-
logists, naturalists, and medical practitioners in the metro-
pis. Five communications wire read, of which one was
from Mr. Liston, on a stricture of the oesophagus.

NEW STOCK AND SHARE EXCHANGE.—A meeting
of the members of this society took place yesterday, at the
Exchange, in Old Broad-street, for the election of a board
of management and the adoption of certain rules and regula-
tious for the guidance of the members of the society. Up-
, wards of one hundred members now belong to this exchange,
although it is only a few weeks since its establishment.
ANNIVERSARY OP TIIE VICTORY OF TRAFALGAR.—
This day being the 41st anniversary of the ever memorable
victory of Trafalgar, several of the surviving heroes will
duly celebrate it in various parts of the United Kingdom,
by dining together. Though death has, since the day of
the engagement, made heavy havoc amongst the officers
that took part in the contest, some hundreds still remain,
the moat distinguished being Admiral of the White, Sir
Edward Codrington, who on the occasion was captain of the
Orion, Vice-Admiral the lion. T. B. Cassel (then captain of
the Pluebe), Rear-Admiral Sir Charles Bullew (captain of
Britannia), Captain Clavell, who was meth, r lieutenant of
Collingwood's vessel, the Royal Sovereign. This officer,
whose services were officially commended, was wounded
severely. Captain J. Pasco, who was senior, and signal-lieu-
tenant of the Victory, and was also wounded. Captain
Thomas Dickinson, on the occasion michhipman on board
the Royal Sovereign, and was wounded, B,:c.
OXFORD-STREET IMPROVEMENTS.—Yesterday, the
Commissioners of her Majesty's Woods and Forests received
tenders at their offices, Whitehall, for -letting on lease the
remaining plots of land for the completion of the new street,
from Oxford-street to Holborn. There were also some houses
to be disposed of, and an extensive area which had been
partly built upon ; this having fallen into the hands of the
commissioners, in consequence of the contracting parties not
having complied with their agreement. These are to be let
for a term of eighty years from Michaelmas last, at a rent of
one peppercorn for the first year. The houses are to be let at
an annual rent of 3301. and tffff., in addition to • premium
on account of the expenses, building sewers, vaults, and
party-walls. The effect of this delay in the erection of the
several houses will prevent the opening of the line as a
thoroughfare for some mmtlis. Since the original design, a
new street has been marked out leading to St.Giles's Church,
which is now in the course of formation.
VICTORIA PARK.—Since the accession of Lord
Morpeth to office, as Chief Commissioner of Woods and
Forests, some important changes have been made in the
plans for the completion of the park. Amongst others, two
portions of about twelve acres at either end arc to be appro-
priated as cricket-grounds, with which a gymnasium is to be
connected. A plan for the erection of a museum is also
under the consideration of the commissioners. The utmost
vigour is now shown in the preparations for planting, which
will, it is expected, be completed in the ensuing spring.
THE FLEET DITCH.—The removal of the houses
in Mutton-hill, Clerkenwell, which fell down from their
foundations, being undermined by the heavy rains in August;
has disclosed to view a large portion of the Fleet-ditch still
uncovered. The district through which it runs, between
Ray-street and Clerkenwell, is one of the most thickly-
populated and unhealthy of any even in this part of the
metropolis. This, the last open portion of this extensive
metropolitan sewer will shortly be covered in by the Com-
missioners of Sewers.
TRAVELLING FOR THE MILLION. The Joint-
Stock Omnibus Conveyance Association commences opera-
tions to-day. Three of their vehicles will run from the
Hero of Weida, Maida-hill, to the Bank. The fare, 2d.;
and the carriages are so constructed as to carry more persons
than the other omnibuses.
THE BISHOP OF LONDON ON NATIONAL EDUCA-
TION.—In the charge delivered by the right rev. prelate on
Monday to his clergy, he stated that the proposal which had
recently been made—that the Government should under-
take to provide for the secular education of the people, leav-
ing their religious instruction to the voluntary exertions of
the clergy and other ministers of religion—appeared to de-
mand some expression of opinion on the part of those to
whom the clergy would naturally look for counsel, if not for
direction, in such a matter. In the charge which be (the
Bishop of London) delivered in 1831, he said that religion
ought to be made the groundwork of all education ; but he
added that in his opinion religious and secular instruction
might most advantageously be blended or interspersed. He
still adhered to that opinion, and he deprecated, as he
had always done, the system of separate religious and secular
education—a separation which must necessarily be made if
the Government were to take the education of the people
into their own hands, and to provide secular instruction for ,
all, leaving the work of religious teaching, not to the mas- I
tenor mistresses, but to the voluntary exertions of the
clergy and ministers of different sects. How fax these exer-
tions might be depended upon, and to what extent they I
might clash or interfere with one another, and embitter
sectarian feeling, he would not stay to inquire ' • but if they
forbade by law the inculcation of religion in their schools,
if they proscribed the reading of the Bible as the subject of
instruction, if they prohibited the use of prayer by the "
teachers of the schools, they would not only deprive
religion and knowledge of the support they ought
mutually to render to each other, and habituate the
learner to a notion that religion bad nothing to do
with the ordinary occupations of life, but they would
lead to the training up of • race of school teachers
devoid of all religious character; for no truly, religious
teacher could reconcile it to his conscience to be silent on the
most important of all subjects, if he had reason to believe
that the minister of religion to whom the department of re-
ligious instruction would properly belong was negligent or
incompeght in the discharge of his duties. They had only
to look to the present state of popular education in Germany
and France to be satisfied that his apprehensions on this
point were not groundless. He was more and more con-
vinced that it was best for the interests of the people at large,
and more conducive to charity end peace, that the state
should continue to assist with an increased measure of aid
the voluntary efforts of individuals and societies. The pre-
sent was not a time when it was proper to enter upon a new
system. In connexion with this subject he urged upon
them to co-operate with the London Diocesan Board of
Education.
SCHLESWIG AND HOLSTEIN.—Sir, —I have hitherto
abstained from obtruding my Mews on the present state of affairs in
the above-named duchies upon year readers, as my faith in thejtis-
tice of Englishmen is too strong to admit of • doubt that the repeated
efforts which have been made to prejudice the cause of the inhabitants
of those duelues will utterly fail but the letter of a correspondent of
yours, who signs hitmelf "The Son of a Native of Schleswig,' con-

talon soma semetiots width tt is impendhle bar me to pees over.
Hmkaghnt Istely returned trami the tar* et pie y. where I was
a whims of". *Mal musation amid by de "wpm Ides "of
troNDlnminit low spenk:enee esaladne et bib, the
et did dig weld yam blame afewaillas the
dam d dbe.Daubli Tam=poded dol=it=
Vat se kr tad the Dom open de
Gomm tulleenediede. the War leg eyawedbatiWetwed to
the Dada dam& Now. lie, nothing ameba further than
She and one prod won tee mffident to refine that assertion—
eh'. the thee idle iferams teen,. of the Genuses dace, of Hol-
stein, "hilt way midi wild to &had the frontiers of
Gamow, ans mby dicers la the Danish lan-
guage (and file ie neameaft to tho Minima), a airounietanot which
Ms mead mug throughout Osemmy, and the ,
duchies of Rebhan end gal
mom a.l -y. Hot-
tein Is the reamtnele et Dania
Peep end mill- I
tary) end peodomm wide\ Danmark is too poor to
Provide /or ; end I ehellede your areeepeaned to den?, the
teethed my statement. He greedy omenstio lilies sthentages of the
connexion with Denmark to the Mobile; they ink into utter long-
niftcanoe when compared with the banal the beer country de-
rives tram the union. What protectioa does the Amish flag afford?
Would it not be an easy matter Ow a second rate maritime power to
annihilate the Danish fleet? Few people in this country have any idea
1 of the petty annoyances and mall tyranny which the Danish gorern-
meat practises against her German subjects. I heard many cum
plaints of them during my stay in Holstein, but will only give one
example. In a town of some importance both the Dani-h and Hol-
stein arms were hewn into the wall of the town-hall, but the easefu-
-1 meet had the latter removed, to do away with the recollection of
1 national independence. Again, look at their narrow minded and
' selfish polity as eaidenced In their refusal to sanction a railway be-
' tween Hamburg and Lubeak. The inhabitants of Holstein are not
1 oppcned to such a line, but 111 order not to lessen that disgracefid
imp at, the Sound Dues the oft repeated application is refused.
I Here, then, is an inetame where the interests of Holstein and Den-
mark openly clash. The want of faith on the part of the Danish
government, as shown by their arbitrary alteration of laws which
could legally only b, altered with the sanction of the States, is too
fresh in people's memory to require anv particular allusion. I have
nothing to do with your correspondnit's sneers at the Duke of Au-
gustenburg, awell as the ° Professors and Advocates." It is a
termite argument with the ultra Danish party, that the move-
ment proceeds from the learned profession, but it Is a great mis.
take to suppose that it is confined to them. All the
kings of Danmark have solemnly confirmed the bweparability of the
duchies of S. hleawig and Holstein. If the "open letter " was not
meant to alter this state of things (as we are now told it was not) what
then was Its object ! The two Ambles are no more Danish pruainces
than Hanover was a British dependency under the late king, and any
attempt on the tart of the Danes to make them so will be met with a
vigorous opposition. In conclusion. I beg to assure vou that I hear
no ill-will towards the DanCh nation; I only wish they may not
plunge into a struggle, from which they may find it difficult to retire
with honour. --A Gemara.

A SBOCKING PREFERENCE.—Inebances are con-
stantly occurring of paupers preferring starvation and death to
becoming inmates of workhouses. On Monday evening
I police constable Harvey, 118 Ci, was called to a small tene-
ment in Pear Tree-court, Shoreditch, and in the lower room
found an old woman lying dead behind the door, her only
clothing being a cloth tied round her person. Various
habiliments, however, mere rags, which she had apparently
recently taken off, were found lying near, amongst au extra-
ordinary collection of bits of rag and straw, which had been
her bed, and the place presented altogether a sickening scene
of filth and wretchedness. The poor old creature was said
to be the widow of a hackney-coachman, who died five or
six years since, and her name Ann Lovett, 80 ye ,rs of age,
and the body was terribly emaciated, as if from want. In
the place, however, there were found four red herrings,
about three pounds of salt fish, some potatoes, and part of a
loaf, all of which provisions were mouldy, and had evidently
been a long time un,ouched. It was stated that the parish
officers of Shoreditch had lately been applied to, and last
week sent her a shilling, besides which she had been at-
tended by the parish doctor, but she would not enter the
workhouse, as advised by her neighbours, and when last
seen in the court on Monday, a few hours only before her
death, she told one of them that she would rather die where
she was than do so. The neighbours say that a fortnight ago
she had r.o than nine cats, of which she took more care
than of herself, but only two of the animals now remain in the
holm. Information has been forwarded to the coroner.--
A case more pitiable than the above is related by th" chair- I
man of the Poor Man's Guardian Society, who complains of
" the great cruelty practised by the guardians of St. Pancras
workhouse towards. a helpless bedridden old woman, named
Ray." He says :
" I visited the poor creature early, and found her in bed In one of
the attics (in Frances-street, Tottenham-court-road), eating her break-
fast, which was brought and administered to her through the humane
and generous instrumentality of a widow woman in very straitened
circumstances, in the adjoining attic. I was much shocked at the
frightfully emaciated condition of the aged sufferer, now verging on
tiO }ears, who looked like a perfect living skeleton. I learnt that the
parish at one tune allowed her 2s. &I. and a loaf per week, but have
stopped the allowance about four months ago, because she will not go
into the workhouse. Since that period the poor thing has been gra-
a.ying from starvation, surrounded by filth of the most repulsive
Urgent representations at intervals have been made to the
in her behalf, but all to no purpose, and within the last few
days the warm-hearted widow already alluded to has, in conjunction
with others in the house, made an effort to stay the progress of
starvation bjesseuring her relief, the cleansing of her person and her
room, end the le9l/11111ta of tsttered garments,
which I hare girdle= totarrkein and washed at the baths and wash-
/souses In George-street, leastonequare for the purpose of their puri-
fication and future possible utility. ('in inquiry, I found that the
repugnance of this poor woman to entering into the workhouse was
insurmountable. She declared she was sure she should be a corpse on
the fallowing day; and this impression I and is produced not only
from the bad reputation which that establishment posses/re, but also
from the fact of her having a relation who had been harshly treated
therein. Under such circumstances she persists in declaring that she
would prefer dying in her present bed than be at the mercy of the St.
Pancras guardnuas:'

FIRE AT Messits. ERARIA HARP AND PIANO-
VORTE Facrouv.—Last evening, between the hours of seven
end eight, the inhabitants of Great Marlborough-atreet,
Oxford street, and vicinities, were greatly alarmed by the
sudden outbreak of a fire upon the extensive pile of build-
ings, belonging to Messrs. Erard and Co., harp and piano.
forte manufacturers to her Majesty, Id and 16, Marlborough-
mews, and extending through the mews to the front house,
18, Great Marlborough-street. The flames were first die-

covered, by one of th'e workmen, issuing through the win-
dows, both hick and front, of that portion of the factory,
termed the bracing and veneering shop. This com-
partment being on the first floor, and contiguous to several
piles of timber, the most lively apprehensions were enter-
tained for the safety of not merely the entire works, but
also for the many buildings that surround them. No time
was lost in forwarding information of the outbreak to the
engine stations, and very speedily the brigade engines from
King-street, Golden-square, and Wellpstreet, attended.
There being plenty of water at hand, the two engines were
instantly set to work from the buck and front of the burning
building. Other engines of the establishment, County and
West of England offices, arrived one after the other in rapid
succession. Owing to the indefatigable exertions of the fire-
men, the flames were attacked just as they were rolling up
the staircase into the floor above. Both compartments con-
tained a large number of instruments partially finished
Those in the bracing shop are either consumed or rendered
worthless by the action of the fire, and those in the floor
above are considerably damaged by heat and smoke. The
loss must be somewhat considerable, and had it not been for
the timely discovery, and the prompt arrival of the engines,
it is quite probable that the whole of the immense property
would have been destroyed. The loss will fall upon (we
understand) the Westminster and Globe offices. It could
not be learned how the outbreak happened ; when the work-
men left a few minutes previously, every thing appeared
quite safe. The regular business of the firm, it is under-
stood, will not be interrupted by the disaster.

NUMEROUS ACClDENTS.—Yesterday, the following
numerous and fearful accidents occurred, several of which
will, in all probability, end in loss of life :—The first ease was
that of George Flacknell, aged 17 years, a bricklayers'
labourer, residing in Brandon-street, Walworth. The un-
fortunate man was employed in repairing the roof of a
house situate in New-street, Dockhead, and while in the act
of descending from the roof the ladder broke, whereby he
was precipitated a depth of forty feet to the basement of the
building. He was promptly raised up by his companions,
who carried him to a surgeon's, where it was ascertained that
he had received concussion of the brain and other extensive
injuries, and it was deemed necessary to convey him to Guy's
Hospital, where he now remains without hope of recovery.—
Another accident occurred to a female, named Ann Gibbons,
aged 28 years, residing at No. 22, North-street, Knights-
bridge. She had been for a few weeks at Margate in service,
and while on board the steam-vessel the got in conversation
with a young man, a perfect stranger. They reached Lon-
don-bridge, where she left him, but she was then quite intoxi-
cated, which attracted the attention of a City police-consta-
ble, who seeing her incapable of taking care of herself took
her to the Tower-street station-house, where she was placed
in the usual cell, and by some means she fell off the seat
and fractured her right leg. She was immediately seen by
a surgeon, who suggested her removal to Guy's Hospital,
where she now lies in'avery exhausted state.—A third acci•
dent took place to a man named John Pearcy, aged 41 years,
residing in Regent's-place, Mill-pond, Bermondsey. Ile was
a labourer, and whilst proceeding to work at an early hoar
in the morning, near the Star and Garter Tavern, Neckinger-
road, Bermondsey, be by some cause walked into a small ex-
cavation which had been left improperly protected. He was
released by two policemen, who carried him into the tavern
opposite, where he was found to have sustained a fracture of
the right thigh, and extensive contu'ions on the body. He
was speedily taken to Guy's Hospital, where he was placed
under the care of the house-surgeon.—A fourth accident
happened to a man named John Calloway, aged 43 years,
residing at Basingstoke. He was assisting in a marimba's
machine-room, when he, by some accident, got his right arm
in between the cog-wheels, by which he received such fearful
injury to the limb that it is feared the arm will require am-
putation in the only means of saving his life.
INQtESTS.—The following inquests were held
yesterday, by Mr. W. Baker :—FATAL EICPLOBION OF FIRE-
WOIDIB.-At the Sun and Sawyers, High-street, Poplar,
on the body of Edward Deal, aged 45. Deceased was a
shoemaker, and kept a beer-shop called the Rocket, in Syd-
ney-street, Blackwell. On Tuesday, the 29th ult., he was
engaged in making fireworks for the sth of November. A
portion of them got damp by the rain, and the deceased
placed them before the fire, for the purpose of drying. The
fire got rather fierce, and before the fireworks could be iv-
moved, they exploded. The deceased endeavoured to save
several boxes, and in doing so, he was burnt in a most fright-I
ful manner aboutl the head, chest, and arms. He was at-
tended by Mr. Bain, a surgeon. but he expired on Monday
last. The deceased was warned on a former occasion by the
police, but he still continued an illegal sale of fireworks. The
jury then returned a verdict of " Accidental Death," but at I
the same time they said they could not separate without ex-
pressing an opinion that there had been great neglect on the
part of the authorities in not suppressing the illegal traffic
in fireworks in populous districts.—Lova AND SUICIDE.
—At the Sportsman public-house, Margaret-street, Haggee.
stone, on the body of Hannah Quaintrall, aged 22, a single
woman, residing at No. I, West-place, City-road. It ap-
peared in evidence thatthe deceased had formed an acquaint-
anee with a young man about two years ago. At times her
mind wee much affected, and on several occasions she threat-
ened to destroy herself. In consequence of her affliction the in-
timacy was broken off. Since that period she has been in a
very low and desponding state of mind. On Saturday, the
10th instant, she left home, and she was never seen alive
afterwards. On Sunday last her body was discovered
floating in the Regent's Canal, near iiaggerstone-bridge, by

Ithe locknien, who conveyed it ashore, and was afterwards
identified to be the deceased. The jury, at the sugges-
tion of the coroner, returned an open verdict of " Found
Drowned." SUSPECTED INFANTICIDE.—At the same
house, on the body of a newly-born male infant unknown.
On Monday morning last, about eleven o'clock, the body
was discovered lying under the arch of the Margaret-street-
bridge, Regent's Canal, wrapped up in a brown apron.
There was a stone placed inside, and it we- supposed that the
deceased was thrown from the bridge. Mr. Burchill, a sur-
geon in the Kingsland-road, afterwards examined the body,
but could not discover any marks of violence. It was a full-
grown child, and he was of opiuiou that the deceased was
horn alive. The iury returned an open verdict of "Found
Dead."—A DROWNED BRIDE.—AIso, at the same house,
on the remains of Ann Whittou. She had been married
only three weeks to Alfred Whitton, and sought re-
fuge under her mother's roof last Friday, owing to her
mother-in-law's harsh conduct. On Saturday night, Whit-
ton called upon her, when a violent quarrel ensued ; de-
ceased called him a "good-for-nothing vagabond," and
demanded assistance from him. He replied that he bad
earned only 12s. in the week, and could not keep himself.
He then said he would leave, upon which deceased threat
tined to follow him ; after more high words he left the hose,
pursued by deceased, who was brought home dead on Sun-
day morning.—M. Gilts deposed to seeing Whitton and
deceased about half an hour before she was got out of the
water. They were quarrelling, and deceased struck her
husband four times. She was clamorous for money, and he
jeeringly replied that he would buy her handsome clothes.
Edward Allen repeated the evidence given at Worship-
street (reported in yesterday's paper), and, in answer
to questions, stated that Whitton made not the
slightest effor: to save his wife when she plunged
into the water. He was in a position to rescue her, and
attempted to get away, but was detained.—Mr. C. White-
man, lock-keeper, stated that he throw the drag, and suc-
ceeded in bringing deceased's body ashore instantly.—Mr.
Colson, surgeon, was called to deceased ; believes she could
have been saved had appliances been available. D.:ceased
was lying before the door of the Sir Waiter Scott, at which,
and also at the Cat and Mutton, all efforts to arouse the
inmates proved useless.—The Coroner said the facts had been
reported to the licensing magistrates, and he hoped some
steps would be taken in the matter. It was painful to
think, that in all probability, life would have been restored
if assistance could have been had. He thought it useless to
pursue the inquiry further, in the absence of direct evidence.
It appeared that the deceased was in a state of excite-
ment bordering on mental derangement, in which condition
she had destroyed herself. There might be great inhu-
manity, but there was no legal criminality on the
part of the accused. The law did not compel a man
to peril his life in an attempt to save even his wife's.
—The jury strongly dissented, and, after a delibe•
ration with closed doors, adjourned the inquiry.—
DEATH sir DAV:VEEN:VERS.—By Mr. Mills, on the body of
.
Mary Smith, a widow lodging at No. 15, Drury-lane. On
Wednesday last the deceased, who was very drunk, was pro-
ceeding cloven stairs, when musing her footing, she fell down a
whole flight, pitching on her head. She was carried up to
bed and a surgeon sent for, who found she hail sustained
severe injuries, under which she sank, and died on Saturday
—Verdict, " Accidental death."--SEPPOCATION.—Mr.
1 Joseph Payne, the deputy-coroner, held an inquiry at the
Swan's Nest Tavern, Colemac-street-buildings, alooreate-
street, respecting the death of Thomas Brentnall, aged six
months, whose parents reside at No. 7, Coleman-street-
buildings. The deceased was one of twins, and was born
with a remarkably large head, which the mother, from its
unusual weight, could not keep upright. The deceased was
likewise very restless from its birth, and was suffering from
hernia. On Saturday night the mother retired to rest with
the deceased on her arm, and at an early hour on Sunday,
when she awakened, she discovered the deceased black in the
face and apparently lifeless. Mr. Roberts, a surgeon, was
called in, but deceased bad been dead some hours. The sur-
geon was unable to state the precise cause of death without a
post mortem examination.—Another inquest was held by Mr
William Carter, the Coroner for Surrey, at the Cock and
Bottle Tavern, Lambeth-walk, ou the body of Joseph Cook,
aged five weeks. The deceased was the son of a publican,
keeping the Mechanics' Arms, China-walk, Lambeth. On
Saturday last the deceased was found dead in bed by the side
of its mother, who stated that the deceased's body was not
larger than a doll, and had gradually fallen away from its
birth owing to general debility. The jury iu each case being
satisfied with the evidence adduced, returned a verdict of
" Death from natural causes."

NEW MINING IMPLEMENT.—An Adelaide paper has
a notice of an invention that promises to be of great service to
the mining intere.ts of that part of the world. It says: Mr.
John Roberta, engineer, &c , whose mechan,cal skill was of
late so successfully employed in the construction of reaping
machines, has, since the conclusion of harvest operations,
turned his attention to other pursuits, in which the efforts of
his inventive genius have been attenied with marked suc-
cess. But the invention which the present notice is chiefly
intended to record, is a new implement for boring rocks or
other indurated substances in mines preparatory to blast-
ing with gunpowder. It is well known to those who are
at all conversant with mining operations, that the boring
4 cylindrical hole of greater or less depth has hitherto
been all the mechanical preparation usually made for
the reception of the blasting powder; and although the
enlargement of the bottom or inns r extremity of the orifice has
been formerly effected by the chemical application of acids
(a method recently revived and announced) it seems to have
been reserved for a South Australian colonist, in the person
of Mr. John Roberts, to accomplish the solution of a most
difficult problem, by producing through mechanically adapted
means at the extremity of the usual cylindrical perforation, a
spherical chamber for the reception of an extra charge of
powder, the increased effects of which need scarcely be ex-
plained. The newly-invented implement which must be
seen to be properly appreciated—was first tried at Knpunda I
mine with perfect woven ; but as powerful explosive agency
is much more required at the Burra Burro mines, Mr. Ro-
berts has been induced to transfer his services to the South
Australian Mining Association, on whose behalf the benefi-
cial explosions produced by the use of the new invention are
described as having been " prodigious."
THE OYSTER AND THE SIIELL.—A tradesman,
says the Maidstone Journal, lately employed a professional
gentleman to recover $ debt of 3Cs. lie succeeded, and the
costa were 701.

IRELAND.
DUBLIN, Ocr. 19.

THE LABOUR RATE ACT.

ROSCOMMON.—BAIIONY or BRAWNEY.— The extra-
ordinary presentment sessions for this barony were held on
Friday. The chair was taken by the Right Hon. Lord
Casticmainc. The meeting was well attended by the respec-
tability of the town, amongst whom we noticed a great many
of the Town Commissioners. J. Ennis, Esq., was present,

and spoke at some length on the propriety of granting to the
Mußinger Railway Company a sum of money to enable them
to proceed with the railway, and which would at the same
time afford a vast deal of employment to the poor. The sug-
gestion of Mr. Ennis was unanimously agreed to by the
meeting. After some preliminary conversation, presentments
were granted to the amount of 18,13 M.
GALWAY.—Dee done BARONY.—Thursday the 14th
being the day appointed for holding an extraordinary special
sessions for the barony of Dunmore, under the 10th of Vic-
toria, the attendance of the clergymen and gentry of the
parish was large. The chair was taken by Edward Blake,
Esq., of Castlegrove. The court-house be insufficient to
afford sufficient accommodation, the Very Rev. Dr. Loftus
offered the use of the chapel, which was willingly accepted
and proceeded to. It was determined on passing works
to the amount of fifty per cent. on the annual in-
come of the barony, to be apportioned to each parish, ac-
cording to its population and the taxes they are liable to.
Committees were appointed to consider the best works to
recommend, but, owing to their not having closed their
labours until six o'clock, the consideration of them was post-
tasted. On Friday, the members of the court having re-
assembled, business was resumed, and presentments to the
amount of half the advanced valuation was passed for each
CONCILIATION HALL—Tots DAY.
The usual weekly meeting of the repealers was held this
day in Conciliation Halt, J. M. Meedonnell, Esq., M.P., in
the chair. The following letter was read from Mr.
O'Connell :
" Derrynane Abbey, Cahireireen, Oct. 16.
" My dear Ray—l endow you a letter which I received from an old
and much respected friend of mine, John WOW', of Castle Dill, near
Crornmolina, Esq. Ile is a man of independent fortune, and most
respectable character. lie resides upon his own estate, and has been,
and is, a bountiful benefecter to the labouring classes in his neigh-
bourhood, to many of whom he has prism constant employment.
What a contrast between him and the absentee proprietors of
many estates in his ne*hbourhood Ile wishes to be a member of
the Loyal National Repeal Association, and has the kindness to ask
use to propose him. I have pride and pleasure in complying with his
request, and beg that you seal get my eon John to propose him in my
manse. My loved friend, Tom Steele, will, 1 am sure, cheerfully
second him. AMID the subscriptions for the week the following--
Daniel Monaca. M.P., 11.•, Msurioe O'Connell, M.P., IL ; Jelin
O'Connell. ILP., ; Daniel 0 fee M.P., IE, being for the
current math of October. I shouldl mush regret that the plan
fer a Redone' erimmittee of landed proprietors meeting in Duldin
sherd be burial ht oblivion. It shall not be no if I can help it. The
memory d It, it heat, shall live, even if it should fail to be realised
far say
yeettve purpose. It is quite true that there seems no kind of
for priimaint meeting sooner than the usual period, and,
on tie ambrory, a more speedy meeting might, in my humble
jedpaent, tend to enterers and retard Me g out of
the plans of the Lord Lieutenant, for an immediate supply
of food and were for the people. Rapidity is most row
eery, else the people will supplies
arrive. of hunger before the
arrive. Another awful calmaalty has been indicted by Provi-
dence on the remoter ports of the country—the last fortnight has
been marked by a orlinnalice of tremendous storms, with the wind
Mowing terrifically, pindpally from the west. The coasters gene-
s:e. Liverpool and the eastern coast of Ireland, and from Dr-
laden with corn and maize, have been all kept, by the adverse
end storm,from their ports of delivery ; and it is to be very
mill some of them are lest. It is certain that all are
delayed their time. The government steamers should be ern-
phayed On alleviate thie calamity, as they arc able to lice in a sea
',WA would overwhelm the coasters ; and the steamers, of course,
are we math affected by the point from which the wind blown, The
mod urgent and rapid measure. are neccoary to alleviate this in.
rdemity. If the National Committee were sitting, most minute
dr egsdm each locality would be placed atone before government,
and mesas to alleviate the additional horror would be adopted by our
en[ es*lord-lieutenant. Again, if the National Commit • ee were sitting,
!<b f
or( some one would Regret the forma' f four sub.eom.
one f onnaught, one for aster, ene for Munster, snd one
ibr Wester, one for nett of the four provinces, each to report from
time to doe, r oestrous would require, to the general committee ;
and then by ajar division d labour, measures for the relief every
out provides would going on simultaneously, and with-
Mr/ word suggest that the Repeal Antodatian
more rile ashen to form the nucleus of a National
Committee. I omoolifielyef adtfferentopinino; and am convinced
that the Repeal Arodatkin should have nothing to do with the art-
formation of any Ober body. Wades, the projeetel National
Zbrmltace should be quite free from the odour of party feeling
of any kind. It should have, In short, no political or sec a-
rias charger. I repeat that men of all classes, creeds, and
parties should meet, without the least apprehension of any die-
MISR on the subpets on which they differ. The eethe
mind sod exertion) of the committee should be given to alleviate the

present calamities, and obviate, if p visible, a recurrence in future
National
For the prevent I dismiss any further consideration of the
Committee. If i: :aka lAA*, it must originate and be
modelled In its eonstiturion by other hands than ruble; in short, it
must emanate from the sense of imminent danger and anxiety foe
preventing the fatal consequences arising in the minds of swat lead-
ing proprietors of land in Ireland. I; they do not feel the neocesity
for such a committee, my eOke ought to be heard in vain, To
effectuate any good the truly ahoult haws, from the nature and
number of its members, powerful induence in England as well as la
Ireland -In short, it should muhrace within its number's the leading
nobility and gentry of all parties, and unless a very influential number
of nr n of all parties concur in &ruling such a body, it ought not
to exist. This morning's post brought MC the ask Kroodoer.
containing a paragraph headed Ooneiliatinn ; " but, alas
Cos ! little calculated to ob'aiu that most desirable object. It falls
into the usual out depliirahle f oft. It calls on those who are right
the moral force men "-to give In, and it calls on those who an
wrong -the physical force men-to persevere. It is, however, but
due to the people of Cork to receive with respectful attention: any
suggestion corning from any portion of them. But the Association
hav a duty which it owes to Old Ireland end nationality-a tarred
and solemn duty that must not be ri,s'ated or compromised. The
Associauon must not even be susp,...lJd of paltering in a double
settee-ooeorting on the one hand the principle of moral force alone,
and at the mine time letting in, as if by a side wind, the destructive
agency of the physical force prineple. It is in vain to soften the
matter away-we mist meet it in all its hen ingo, and above all
prerrve the members of the Repeal Association, if not from the
guilt, ut least from the oonviction for high-treason. It will be our
duty, out of respect far our Cork Repeaters, to demorstrste to
them the existence of such (Linger. My experience as a Crown
Lawler gives me some title to he beard upon that point
They may think otherwise is Cork at present ; (unreel!, I trltoulds
I believe, beads t e cammand confidence, as a man and as a lawyer.
Any alteration in the sentiments of others can make but one altera-
tion in mine, and that is by producing an increased anxiety that it
should please a merciful Prondence to spare me just life enough to
see the restoration of the Irish Parliament, aLd to see the attainment
of that ritstoratkm completed without one act of violence, or the
shedding of one drop of human blood. In tile meantime toy advice
to the association is this: to act by this document when received
In the manner in which we have hitherto acted towards all
important documents-that to, to refer it, before it in read at
the association, to the committee, to consider its contents, and
report these contents to the association, tooth,' with
a suitable reply, to be submitted to the cons:iteration of the :associa-
tion. if the committee will do me the honour of entrusting me to
prepare that reply, I will cheerfully undertake the duty, and trans-
mit the reply, when complete, to the associonon, Inch will then at
once give publicity to the ra solutions, and to our reply. Ido nut
bespeak any favourable reception for my reply-it will be an import-
ant act of my public life, totally devote' of unything like irritation,
jealousy, or strife --obedient solely to the dictate., of honour and con-
science, and looking to no other temporal result but the restoration of
the legislative independence of Old Ireltind.-Belleve me to be, very
faithfully yours. Danna OT.knoisu-
T. M. 'Hay, Esq., Sze.
Mr. JOHN O'Conwrti. moved that it be inserted on the
minutes. He complained that Roman Catholics bad no com-
mands of regiments in the army or of vessels in the navy,
sod adverted to other disadvantages under which they
laboured.-During the hon. gentleman's address he was in-
terrupted by the arrival of the Hon. Mr. Lawless, the ne wly-
elected member fur Clonmel. This young gentleman was
received with the most intense enthusiasm. The cheers being
sustained fur some minutes.

The Hon. CECIL LawtEss presented himself, and was re-
ceived with loud applause. He said—l thank you sincerely
for this kind reception of me, but though you seem su very
glad to see me here, still my first business is to defend myself
from some attacks that have lately been made upon me in
this hall. For those attacks themselves, so fur as lam per-
sonally concerned, I assure you I care nothing—nothing
whatever; but I regret them, as they shown feeling of
jealousy which ought not to exist amongst us. (Hear, hear.)
It is jealousy that makes us fear that any new-comer amongst
us may interfere with some projects that we had in view,
and which is altogether unworthy a man calling himself
a patriot, and the great cause which we espouse. (Hear,
hear.) I consider myself fortunate in not having been here on
that occasion, because these very attacks raised up friends who
defended me much more ably than I could myself; and I
take this opportunity of thanking you, Mr. John O'Connell,
and you, Mr. Reilly, for the kind part you then acted to-
wards me. (Cheers.) Mr. O'Neill, whom I never had the
pleasure of meeting before this moment, and whose acquain-
tance I am very glad to make ; Mr. O'Neill seemed to think
himself 'injured by my having been elected representa-
tive for Clonmel. I think it is a fancied injury and
I will try to explain it to him. I will give him a ease in
point. I will compare the fair town of Clonmel to a fair
widow about to unite herself to some new partner.
(Laughter.) Amongst the crowd of her admirers is one who
thinks he has some aaims upon her regard, and he is much
surprised to find that she had chosen some one else ; but in
that case it would be better for him to show that he did not
feel it very sorely, but to say, " Oh, there are as good fish in
the sea as ever were caught." (Laughter.) Would
it not have been better for Mr. O'Neill to say,
Clonmel has had the had taste to choose another re-
presentative, but I will present myself to another
constituency, and I will take the noblest revenge by
showing myself more worthy, by exceeding hint in his xer-
tions for the cause we arc both working for. (Cheers.) I
am sure that Mr. O'Neill, whom I am very glad now to
me, t, meant me no ill ; but if he did, I shall return him good
for evil. He seems to think lam a gay Luthario, who will
interfere with hint again; on the contrary, I will do any-
thing to serve him. I believe I have a vote in Dublin, and
if I have, I shall be most happy to give it him
at the next election. But he must recollect that
it was not I who was chosen before him. If
I were chosen upon personal grounds, he might
have felt some injury ; kart no ; it was as my father's son
I was member for Clonmel. (Cheers.) Well, you seem to
think that it was doing hint no ill to class him with Lord
Cloneurry. I certainly don't think it was. (Cheers.) I
must now allude to some other portions of his speech—for I
won't pretend fur a moment not to know when he meant
me, and when he did not. Amongst other things, he accuses
me of not having declared my sentiments to my coesti-
Went% before my election. Well, I have satisfied my
constituents upon that head. (Hear, hear.) I will
now try to satisfy him. Indeed the very best
answer I can give is Sir Bev le Roche's "No man, barring
he's a bird. can be in two places at once." (Laughter.) I
was abroad at the time, and it would have been impossible
fur me, from the period at which I received the notice, to
come over in time. (Hear.) He next says something of my
having Repeal fresh chalked on my arm. I think be meant
me.

Mr. O'NEILL—No, indeed, I pledge myself.
Mr. LAWLEAN—WeiI, I believe Mr. O'Neill ; but suppose
it were newly chalked upon me, wou'd it not be better not
to rub it off, by " dusting my jacket ?" But I can tell
you that repeal is not chalked upon m 7 arm, it is branded
on my heart, and it will take a great deal of dusting to rub
it off. The only thing that will ever rub it off will he the
cageepitha,gne; o/lanr
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comparisons ble'twelenG the
respective times at which we entered the Association. Surely
he might as reasonably have accused me of having come into
the world some twelve years after him. I have been
abroad for some years, and if I had been at home
I would certainly have declared myself years ago,
when, especially, the Liberator was in prison.
Mr. Lawless continued at some length to declare himself a
determined repealer, and concluded amid loud cheers by
pledging himself to do everything in his power to alleviate
tl.e condition of the people, and as the best security for their
prosperity to enforce a Repeal of the Union.
Mr. O'NEILL was then heard in explanation, after which,
Mr. J. O'CornsaLL rose to observe upon the state of the
country. He complained of the English portion of
the administration, which he wan afraid woo in-
clined to carry out their blind adhesion to the canons
of political ec.uomy to the detriment of the Irish people
He firmly believed that the Irish portion of the government
would be inclined to do what was Lest in the prevent state of
things, but he very much feared the English portion was
about to prove that no matter how liberal in principle an
English government might be, it must alwav3 act injuriou•ly
upon Ireland. He feared that the ministers in England were
much more anxious to retain the support of the great
merchants in England connected with the provision trade,
than to do what was most required for Ireland. Otherwise
they must perceive that Ireland presented at present an
exception to all the doctrines of political economy, and with
the conviction that the general rule was best proved by the
exception, they would treat Ireland's case accordingly. Mr.
O'Connell said he hoped Sir R. Routh had been reprimanded
for his reference to the doctrines of Burke, in answer to
an appeal for food from famishing people, and said that if
they must have their elixirs administered at such a time by
English and Scotch officers, these officers should be taught
that the people must neither be sneered at or insulted. Mr.
O'Connell said that the corn in the country ought to be
bought up by the government, and sold at a cheap price to
the people. That plan could only Cillat a loss to the
national exchequer, but of what importance was that, com-
pared with the protection of the people ? The people had
a claim for support against England, and she might
rely on it, it would be, unless acknowledged, terribly en-
forced. He stated that he feared there was some influence
at work preventing the spread of employment—possibly the
landlords, possibly the government, which might feel that
the expense of labour this year would be so great that it
would never be repaid, but should come, as in the end it
must, out of the national exchequer. Mr. O'Connell
dwelt upon these topics and on the duties of landlords,
at great length. He adverted to the opinion in England in
favour of a compulsory Poor-law for Ireland, which he said
would confiscate property ; and ended by declaring that the
landlords should make peace with the people by giving them
a good tenure, and that by joining the ropealeri they could
alone preserve the country. For the people of Ireland who
adhered to that association nothing would ever turn them
aside from repeal.
Mr. O'Connell having concluded, the association was
addressed by Capt. Broderick, Mr. Steele, Mr. Reilly, and
others, after which it adjourned.—The rent amounted to
nearly 701.
MR. LawLoa.—This gentleman has sent word to the Asso-
ciation that he will appear at the Hall on the 20t.h instant
(Monday next), to argue the whole of his recent proceedings
with Mr. John O'Connell.
New COLLEGIM—GALWAY.—" It was intended, we un-
derstand," says the Galway Mercury, "to commence the
foundation of the works on Monday next; but some unex-
weted obstacle amuse in procuring possession of the ground.
When that is removed, we believe Mr. Brady will proceed
as quickly as the state of the weather will permit.