The Express.
London, England, 1851-03-18 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAT, March 17.
TL Lona CH A mrri.Ena took his seat at 6 o'clock.
PETITION% PRESENTED.
COl'lllol.ll ENYKANI .. By Lard CAMP-
BELL,fnan Waltham Abbey, praying for the cnfranclki-c-
-.

went of .
UAL Pizotrtriom.—By Earl CAWhoDOR,
from I.ty..ral pari.hr, in mbrolicabirr, praying

tnit seal prott-mien.
COMMUTATION OF TITHES.
The Earl of MALMESIICRY gave notice that on Thurs.
the.hl
da neat he should present petit
un the subject of the com-
mutation of tithes.
5.%1.11: OF ARSENIC REGULATION BILL.
The Earl of CARLISLE putporied the third reading of
this bill until Friday, in conacqueneg of numerous sugges-
tions whited he had reeled.
DESIGNS ACT El TEN XTENSIO
TSN BILL.—LAW OF
Earl GRANVILT.E, in bringing up the report nn this
hilL mill it might be convenient that he should take that
opportunity of stating the intentions of the government with
regard to the law of patents. The government wish..l to meet
the views so often esprssusl by noble lords on both sides of
the house with refer.ace to the introduction of measures into
their lordships* house where it way praeticable, instead id',
their coming up lite in the mmion—(hear, hear)—and it
was therefoce their intention to introduce a hill on the sub-
jeer of the patent laws in that house before the end of nest
weak. The noble anti learn." lord opposite (Lord
Uroughani) also, he believed, intended to introduce a hill •
on the 'object, and as it would not he desirable to have the
two hills before the house at the same time, istrhaps their
lordship' would allow him (Earl (ranville) to have his
bill read a second time, in order that it might he referred
to a sleet committee to have eel& nee taken on the sob-
}let upon which a bill of this sort might to he founded. The •
sittl.!.- and learned bu.l would he Wile to attend the to
mitten, and no doubt would render his valuable assistance •
in improving the details of the measure. (blear.)
Lord BID Wit II AM was quite ready to acquiesce in the
pvition of th.• noble earl. lie intended to have laid his
A; on 11., tahle on Thursday nest, hut he would now wait
until th.• hill of tlit• rtvemrnent was before the house. The
noble and learned lord stated some of the features of hi.
bill, the principal of which were to make one potent apply
to England, Ireland, and Scotland; and in lieu of the
amount now paid in the lint instance, to reduce it consider-
ably, and distribute it over a series of years, upon a gra-
duated seal.., first embracing a period of three, then of Misr
years, and on on to the entire term of fourteen years. if the
pattottet- shoot.' desire it. If Ow government hill did not
embrace these "Netts, he would introduce his hill, so that
both bills might he referred to the same isconmittlas (Ileac.)
PAS:SF:NG ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This Idll was read a third time and pissed.
REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCE:I: BILL.
Lord 1 'A'tl PIIELL, in moving the second retuling of this
hill, sod it. object was to register titles in England and
Wales ; and it was brought toward pursuant to a recom-
mend:al #### contained in her Majesty's gracious march. Ili.
lordship then pent-retied to state all that had been
done on the snlijeet from the earliest tiro.* until
the mcniorahle speech of his noble and learnt-.l
friend opposite (Lord Brougham), which would always
he an tn. in the law reform of this country. (Iliac,
hear.) Alter that odelor.ited quo ch a commission was
imausl for considering the law of real property, over which
he (Lord Campbell) hod the honour of presiding; and from
that time to this, without distinction of party, there had
been • consistent, sine, re, and steady desire to
improve th.: law. (Hear, hear.) The members of
that eemmission, ronsisting of eminent convey.owers,
with one mire recommentliol a central registration art, in
thrir report to his Majesty in lad% Soon after that, in the
other hoito• of parliament, he moved for have to bring in
a bill for establishing a general registration. That leave
was grantttl, and the hill was introduced in Ihsamilier,
15.10. It was not a government measure, but it hail the
sanetion of the nohle lord then at the head of the govern-
ment ; but talon- he could more the ueonsl reading of the
bill parliament was dissolved, in April, gall. In the Oc-
tober Ptllowing, when their lordships reject.' the Reborn'
lull, on it. second reading, parliament 111111 again di...441NA.
In the n. at -essimi he again brought in his bill, which was
revyred v...4.4-troln.nittc... which ,at through ,t 9 long
days, and although many menders of it wire 0pp..e.1 to
the hill at shoe outset, they were unanimously in favour of
Rat the c her. (licar, hear.) Ater maturc
the nommdt..•, ore which there wen• 11 county members,
guano, ~,,, .ly ot commended a general system of registration
which might apply to all lands. Itut unfortunately the
triunity soluot.tc. Ilit• hill, and they were certainly
the nowt honourahle and influential Italy in this kingdmr.
The rhumb and the magistracy were powerful bodies but
the country solicitors were chiefly concerned in
the (stamina of the elections of members of the
other hoots, of purliamcnt, and were a still more
powerful bode. Anti they took it into their heads
that this bill v;ould bring all the business from the country
to London, and that they should Ise- their practice in con-
vey:owing, which was the most profitable 'mit of their pm-
l'etttions "sowed in (non all parts ; and it was raid
that all the private transactions of min& Wen: to be en..
100011. v.•ry men we. t.• stripped of his title dints; and
that it was to enalde the triorrrnnarnt to lay tot an
additional land tax.. The people were attuned infuriated by
thin: repn-eotations; and, although the Mil was teat% a
tarot,' be was obliged to almoolon it, tool it 1111/1 ulti-
mately thrown out this am in CCU. The iteforin Stilt
passed in the :autumn of that year, when Earl tiny
Poi ~,,, him with the office of Solicitor-General, but he
told him that li.• most make one nautili..., with him,
namely, that Ise slioubl not bring in his registration bill
again. (A laugh.) A committee of their lordships
bony was apt...m.l in Ifilli to outsider the bonito's
on hail. *Wyk 11.01 pferklell rover by his nobl.• friend be-
hold him (God Ileauniont), who enter.' on the subject
with walla riii.rgy SIMI ability. A great majority of that
if prootictimiists and nonw•reatives. In
their reis•rt that couinvittee mid they were convinced that
the marlotable .slue of British 'mature was iwriously
di-
miui.h.'d hr tile tedious and expensive prosias of the
transfer of Lout they ate, stated that the registry of
titl. t•i all real property was tawmtiol to the suiress of any
attempt to simplify the system of conveyancing. (near,
hear) Iler Majesty's government, howescr, with pro-
per caution, refrained from introducing • measure
on thy, suldtso until another commission had been
appointed, and in the month of July last they reported to
her Majesty that they wen• clearly of opinion did the oa-
tablt-htornt Or a at-loyal registry 111111111 Ix• attended with
me Irenetilial results. At the opts ~ i,,g of the present par-
-1.1.111.11t her Majesty, in her grit:ions speech front the thyme,
said • A measure. will Is• laid hefore you, providing for
the cstablishoweit of n system of registration of divas and
intorno. sits relating to. th.• transfer of property. This
measure is the result of inquiries which I have causeill to lie
mole into th.- prartittability of adopting a system of regis-
tration calculated to give ....airily to titles, and to
• h the eau.s of litigation to which they have
hitherto Imam bible, and to reduce the cost of transfers"
It was in conuipsence of thew remarks in the roval speeeh
that the pre.. lit bill had Isom laid to' thew lordships table.
(Hear.) In the present stage of the measure. be 11011111
take the Ids rte of adverting to the prietii•al 1,11. which it
was the 010. et ..f the bill t.. avert. Them he considered to
be insecurity of title, expense and delay morwv.... and
the has and inismvenience arising frmi there not Nine any
repertory 11' hi-rt. deeds could be deposited mot rendentil
sevessible to all interested in their contents. Slaving
alluthol at onne length to the ninny and serious evils arising
(nom the smut of slim' such measure 11. the prtscnt, lord
Campbell said he would shortly state the marl .ry of the
bill now on the table, heetuse everything depended on
the details -upon how the system was to be carried into
effect; (Or, if the machinery was ineffeetive, the bill would
naleys. The bin proposed that there should be one,
and only one, registration office ; for, in his upiuian. a
multiplicity of ntgistration office. would constitute a great
evil. Therefore, he now proposed that there should
be only one registration office tor the whole of Ent-
land and Wales, (lbw., hear.) Now, the plan of memo-
riot, as it was Vaned. had linen adopted in Yorkshire,
Midair-icy. and Ireland--that was, an abstract was
given of the deed. and the names of the parties to it
were set forth: but this he thought inaufficient, and
that unuanipeti duplicates of deposit-it documents
would far better answer the intended purpue
and mon:over save expense. (Bear.) The next considera-
tion had referenee to. istance: and here it was proposed to
form &strict., taking the districts almaily (maned by the
par-law unions throughout the country as the model, with
the view of facilitating the mode of keeping a complete re-
gistration. Then cone the nose of keeping that registra-
tion. The hill hi• hail brought forward in the other house
had been chiefly drawn up by- a most accomplished lawyer,
Mr. Duval. and that gentlenian ',foamy.' a system of rivis-
Motion. Before hi. time the only mode of keeping it was
by having an alphabetical list of the names of the grantors.
But that was an eatnoncly inconvenient plan. For
instance, th, y bad in Sintillews every year hundreds of
Smiths and Jones.. registered in heaps; and, therefore,
by the alphabet iril list, it would be neva-mar, to look at all
the deeds made by every Jones and every Smith, whereby
much delay would be occasioned. Mr. Duval. bovvever,
hot lessitied both the deeds and the seals. so that, by simple
looking at the deeds which were under the same swab- a
man could We at once all the a,44% ar,.airur 1111 P totiVerte
He (Lord Campbell) confesmd that. although he eoneurri:d
in this plan. he had some misgivings about its adequacy.
Ile thought that maps ought to he at the reels-
iron:in-00We, and the num. particularly now, when
we hail hat on Ordnance survey. awl Antvevs and map.
under the Pnor-law Assessment Act —in shrt, when we
hail public mil. for a large potportion of the land in Eng-
land and Wales. (Hear.) At prment. in England. if
man's solieitor knew of the existence of a deed. the non
111119.41. 11.1111`.111.111errli to have - notice- of it. In France
and in Soglawl no sue) •• notice" w.fs requircd; and owe,.
Vitt no iloola that in lin:land it hail led to much igeonve.
ukase,. Th • present hill proiseal that no person should
be affected lty Any deed which was not registered. and that
that dortrineo( should he eaphaled. (Hear.) Now
with regard to Out obit etions mole to the bill, he would
shortly notice them. In the first place it was %aid that it
111.1.,1 01.311110.11.1t1011: hut he thought it in aeconkine.
with the ancient simplicity and publieity of the commln
law of England. It. principle. 'nonuser, was already in
operation in some English counties, and for centuries it
bad been adopted in Scotland, and there found efficient.
to all our colonies there was a registry. In every eoantry
of Europe a registry of some sort esists:d, and in no country
la the world had it beet" found inoperitive. (Hear.) It.
might ot.erse that deeds could be transmitted to the mai.
tration Mike by means of the general penny psvottiee,
and that the expense of sending theta there from the
remotest part of the country could not amount to
than a few shillings. (Um, ham.) Auer