The Express.
London, England, 1847-05-12 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TOMIDAY, MAT it.
The Lour CentreSturl took his seat at 6 o'clock.
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ROYAL ASSENT.
The nmal net was given by oommiesion to the follovring
balls:—The Censers Duties Bill, the Portland Harbour of
Refuge and Breakwater Bill, the Commons Inaction (N 0.2)
Bill, the Primus (Ireland) Bill, the Harbours, Docks, sad
Piers Claws Bill, the Pile Piers Extensious Bill, the
Ipwielt Os Bill, and the Cheltenham Waterworks IVA
The commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, the Mull*
of Canaan.* and the Eirl of Shaftesbury.
PRIVATE BILLS.
Lord BROUGHAM intimated his intention to introdene
a bill founded on certain resolutions of last session, with
respect to the form of private bills.
After a few words from Lord DaNn An and Lord CAM,
SILL, which were scarcely audible in the gallery, the sulgeet
*VT.&
STATE OF THE CORN MARKET.
The Earl of HARDWICKE row to put the e krises al
which he had giren notice ycoterday, on the =We of the
quantity of corn to the comatu, and the maw of 11/1,1/.
He believed there was eel adocat corn in the esemby Iffe
the demand. It appeared fres returns made in eimaegneene
of the efforts of a private Wirth& to ascertain the gem*,
of corn in the country, thth k was very deficient. Takki
it for mated that them wee ears enough at the amid
the last harvest Ire the Pinky oldie following year, es tow
third, of that pied ealy
remaining,
there ought to be err
third 'umiak*, wirier it that in England sad
Scotland no manta: remaining, and only ou
county had one- with* fa. Wales the deficient:" was
still more serious. wat therearre strongly impremed
with the idea that there was met kid enough to last till the 1
meat harvest; and woks there was a quantity of foreign 1
layers he wailed he certain questions to the noble lard;
opposite, in order% know what prospect there was of ob-
taining sayigdies from atineed. He believed there was little
probability of say corn being received from Poland, the
Baltic, or the Mediterranean, and our only hope therein*
remained in America, and he believed there was a very emell
quantity of earn to come from there. This prospect was die-
anal and alarming, and he wished to put the country on their
guard, so that by economy the quantity of food might be
eked out ; and he would suggest that brown bread, contain-
ing all the particles of the grain, might be consumed, and
that all starch should cease to be used. He further hoped
that the Leaded gravy would take Dare in their own counties
that by some means or other the remaining supply of cent
should not leave them.
Lord CAMPBELL was understood to say, that
the noble lord wished to encourage the meal mobs perhaps
land.
The Earl of HARDWICKE hoped such • theohnetion
could not be put on anything he had said. He would sit
down by merely asking the noble marquis if he was aware
that there was a deficiency of food, and if so, whether these
was a prospect of its being supplied by foreign countries ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said it was a most painful
awl peruses ealper, and he should carefully abstain from
bememlistMegralag klhe am opinion which could have the
Abet ef wislegedleg the public. Every individual had the
eame mem width the government had of ascertaining the
procath reek of Mee in the country, and he should therefore
make se sereemat ea that subplot ; but at the aame time he
did not et ail subscribe to the ralemeat of the noble earl,
that at the aid of the boner eller yogi there was a twelve.
.thisethe egg* of kid in the ramstry. But he could tell
lie noble
wee kr his satisfaction, that a very large quantity
af beast imported thin year, and it was still on the
kaiser my tithe peening moment. (Hear, hear.) In January
Are bed less 661,000 quarters imported; in February
57,000 ; k March 929,000 ; and in April 1,043,000 quarten
thereby that in proportion to the amount of the
elimsend, the y to a extent kept pace ; and if it
iedied4
was as greet kr er of the year as it had been
&ring the loth km maths, the quantity imported during
She year would la 1.09,000 quarters. From the moment it
was known that So prime bed risen to a great height is this
country, an unotedig sad ketnealng action bad been kept
sap, and thermal if thet nation was, that while other coun-
tries were enhatamedelg labouring under the same affliction,
for in argaand oountries in Europe there existed
a daily lieetefes dilated, the deficiency became daily
more apparent. Under these circumstances, the whole of
the exports from the United States to the whole world,
amounted to 2,170,000 quarters, and of that amount not
more than 500,000 quarters had found their way to all the
rest of the world, leaving this country in the • n and
enjoyment of four times the amount of that which had been
exported to all the rest of the world. Three were the only
facts which it was in his power to state, and be thought it
his duty to give them to the house. He entirely agreed
with the noble earl that the state of the markets was such se
to make it the imperative duty of all persons, as far as they
bad interest, power, and authority, to maintain in their
families, as a matter of feeling as well as eamoniy,
the strictest regulations as to the consumption of hod.
Lord ASHBURTON said that the prospects tithe year
to come were anything but satisfactory to him. They may
as yet moire from America Indian corn and Indian meal
these being Lae erops, but of wheat, which wan an earlycrop, they had received nearly as large an amount as he
could venture to expect. He doubted the ability of the
American market to afford them a sufficient supply. He
feared that the anticipations of his noble friend as to further
applies would not be realised. The result of the researches
which he had made in his own neighbourhood was the same
as that to which the noble earl (Hardwieke) arrived as to
the Insufficiency of cora in this country. He thought it the
duty of the government to pay the utmost attention to this
subject.
Lord BROUGHAM said that this was a subject of the
greatest importimes, and nothing could be worse for the pub-
lic than to unseal the fact of a scarcity from them, and no-
thing could be more wholesome for the public, and nothing
could tend mare to uuent dearth from hemming a famine,
than by giving maßelent notice of it. He agreed with the
noble manias in thinking that, not only as a matter of feel-
ing, bet as • matter of imperative duty, as well as economy,
the upper and middle clones ought to impose the strictest
and most rigid economy with regard to the consumption of
the staff of life in their families. With newt to the Inferior
classes there was no necessity for that, because the rise of
prices teaded to furnish them with a etimulus to economy.
Be deprecated the idea of in any way interfering with the
export trade. If they hindered corn from being exported, it
would not be imported to such a degree. Within the last
five week, there were no lees than 4,000,000 qrs. of grain
imported into this country, about one-filth part of the
amount annually consumed. (Hear, hear.) He consi-
dered that as that had been the consequence of the
existing export trade, the government should consider'
along time before they interfered with it.
CHAPLAIN OF BELORAVE CHAPEL.
Lord MONTEAGLE, on presenting a petition from the
Rey. Dr. Thorpe, the miaister of the proprietary chapel at
Belgraveopere, said, that it appeared from the petition,
that in the year 1846, Sr motives of health, that rev. gentle.
man wee Mimed to wish to Lave this country for the colt.
are. The petition further stated, that being desirous of ap-
pointing ma amistantmtrata to this chapel during his
ebeesee, although he did not conceive himself bound either
hi law or map to make any notification to the diocesan,
of the aeons et the gentleman whom he was desirous of &p-
-ea, out of respect for the right rev. prelate (the
i: t 14 ado n ), he fat it necessary to communicate with
him en tbe matter. To that communication he obtained an
ithistreir, width was set forth in the petition, and to that
aims be wished to call their lordships' attention. It was
dated the MU of July, 1846, and was to the following
abet: "If Mr. who I suppose is AM Irish clergyman,
boo Irma &mesa to 'atheists in any English diocese, I shall
be ready to admit him into mine; but, if not, I shall be
Inds the et &alining to do so." That letter, un-
oalkkeil sad takma by knelt, asseceated to a declaration on '
Impart of the dike rev. probe* tram declaration was so- I
dad es Or Ulmer super eatattuathet, that if any curate
peepeasil le be apelthed to ant y entire_ pariah was an lAA
and-fed net been aim& ad to discharge
rk= in mg other diocese, the limas= would refuse
to wield him. The only point at bums was this. If the
right reminalursisas
fa pad et tiregbt that the clergyman proposed was
deskias, masa* or knowledge, lee
tar sea weld met lave raked one word of disclaim an the
matter, nor wadi be bath presented this petitioa, kr It
woad have beta ark, math eirouresteacal to quarks the
j of the dleemea. Bet when the prinks was not
kr want et &Keine, marals, or kankeg, but
it So twist raised is the year 1846 mos the eissumastanos
of Ida bobs an Irish clernmem, he Wok &ergo of km pod-
dam, at on a questioa bream tbe diesseas mid the peti-
tioner, bat be did me al behalf of the aka* body of the
Irak imp. (Neer.) Oa dad assoent be possared the
potilion, sad on that arm* he answers id it to
thdr lealthipo' most ark& mathiserisa. Wier was
dr misessisa of Irish kr
Irish 1 Was it tag be wee Irish
ley bkth, Ina
arlby elands.,
Ireland ? or Irish by the
He abeamermse of
d& bean ordaked in knew set what
ea er ma siorgythaskas. He took
than bib Ile eleogymealirht erelikkal shush, and of
the ems boiy.
.21ara.) Be &Med anybody the right to
= 94 di( between teem—above all, if that
kayMwinsossumMili be tho peeper of establishing sa
weds a
=deem i and where it would appear that if le
he would be admitted, but being
is sai, deeepesaa area excluded. It, however, beams
ms 1.17 keilleas, bet peculiarly inapplicable, when they
ersdkami the rate ot the Irish church (a the plee eekg
eme yea—mbes they recollected that it we net kerb mob
• NA at Imiiiiia fee the &au of this kooky, lad thee *
wee asmesoled walk NM nt Si meet elsabea
blek lliggcj
mom tkiJealmeged to the wpm& aim&
TM Week bed M1N1181,4 um"
Modes; sad erbileit
_eked es Miter bf
sad a *ILI
am aresdry,kr • Nodl sad a Jewell k me Wrath to
ibseemg, mom) Tbe mirth to applied aa LW eimgy- 1
ma to a lardeatcrish wee
apeseilitifimiste at Ode
=;NZIp tbe fwel= rare in whierh—sea7lrbkw.w=
cal bad lima MhielAgnitias in this onatry, reethilkg
dr memeth of IthrlL liras, "that the mutuality we
di ea see din" He dignsested the attempt to draw such
a distlarka, ether in theekurelt or say public department.
It wes worthy of remark, that, while the Engliak bar refused to

IFONI•11 Lard Prelude Ns WON title Rolla, Sir A. Smiled
been sent ever r Irish Cheassisr. TM prier identity of
the two twiner* et the &Mk Otitis empire was moot un-
doubted ; but to dew an iniddlons distirdice recognising
the churches of isifiss4 pod Ireland as two separate
branches, was a melt entree, and must tend to
weaken the ellesseih The t time, above all
schen, was rat tar middle wash distinetioos. Zr any body
of clergy deserved boner, it was those of the churl of Ire-
land, which, within the leer twenty-dr years bad completely
shaken off he dross. The Neer snarler of the ministers

and members of that eirere to meet the Mind exigency,
gave them a claim to the Mosel respen; don am-
duct had won the =6Leumia•,,,,r, upeinsets is
Ireland,—the Roman ibis matter be lab
unexplained, it would denbtiese be mestresd into a algid ea
the whole Irisissitureh. It edit be thee& that the eight
on. Tirane was km Opined to and& is the educed= of
reeved la Wine ; %titbit could net be theme,
hirell= ea adorer esseein, essemeed a desidedepidest
ate the ensedeeky et the education gives La des nedemellp
utDeblin out drat of Oxford or Oamdiridge.
The Bishop of LONDON said he biped to nil* the
house that he had acted with no insatiesal diareginthithe
Irish branch of the united church. Neese wan 111111114111111111.
than himself to do Justice, on all ossesimn to the geembeetet
the church in Ireland; and he willingly bore Willow lOW
praies' worthy conduct of the clergy in that noway during
the distress. But the regulation alluded to wee not a new
one ; it had been acted on, without objection by the public,
for the last 23 years. When be was Bishop of Chester, be
had found it his duty to discourage the great bilks of young
Irish clergymen into this country on two pounds : first, he
did nut think it right that young met who bed been edu-
cated and ertisined for the earths of the omen in Ireland
should take the opportunity of this church under
its difficulties, and coming over he Bet so far from
being guilty a any damped tower* the Irish church
in adopting this terantiew. be emidered that he
had shown his damn resod be it. Another
reason was this. Loathing at Om stele ed eineation in Ire-
land at that time, wirer wee weer iediehily altered, and
tuß doomedthe dweller toot to it by the noble lord,
lbe meths Win then prevailed of young
men seine over te Inland, obtaining a degree, and coming
beekz-hs-had damp it hard that the young men educated
at her own cutivandlles, and in atatmat 1111111119111 under our own
eye, should be Mehra teem theme enemies which they
might reameably et le sink bee whisk they were pre-
vented is eibesining nog Ma ihnll inland. Hs had,
thareare, Sewn it dead_ die practice. At
se ties bed the rule been itmeezala! arid et the
present memeter, in the ware
nearly, If not quite, as many Irish iisegyines whoae had
linseed os those whom he had named S buns.. It wen
remarkable that the reseletien bed sever. embed • word of
remonstrance, during the hut II yens, ken dm biskelsegy
themselves. If Dr. Theme had any SUM is 118111giaia of
the restrietionow inseavemint to Mardi end dimespeethil
to the Irish dumb, be sisenhi, in the Imre instssan have laid
his complain Wire the primate of the shank is this
onatry, se Mare the primate of the Lie church ;
and if eine, of those most leaned and estimable
Individual, bed thought pew to enpr.r an opi-
nion that be regoiseles wee laeoepatibla with the
boon of mks, be (die Bishop et Landon) should
have sequined is that opieiha, emi ben most cheerfully
Owed te test Ineldes. Indeed et that, Dr. Thorpe had
thought proper to berg the alarm bikes their lordships by
a petition, which bed not been reed, but which indulged in
much Onager buying* then had been red by the noble
lad is the meter bowed, Had the resolution
ben the bin clergy, they WOW birreene
thrt bee der nge bad arm been ereed.
emleideroll that hehtien had en new riseratediddyest himself
?ma die shop of bevies cast eves • shadow of
dierespeet on the Irish breach of the church,
for which he entertained the most encore regard
and esteem. Within the law year or two he had via one
of the dignities of St. Paul's sighed:el to an Irish
(Hear, hear.) Dr. Thorpe, by his previous conduct toward;
his diocesan, had(Hear,
not rendered it a matter of obligation with
him (the bishop) to show him any particular courtesy. lie
had answered the petitioner's application in the letter which
had been read ; but he had also given tie curate leave to
officiate in Dr. Thorpe's chapel without being licensed. Dr.
Thorpe, in another letter, declined to accede to this pro-
posal. Afterwards, he (the bishop) had seen the clergyman
alluded to, and had offered to license him without further
difficulty ; but, from some cause or other, the offer woo not
accepted. Both before sad since that time, be had licensed
Irish curator; though the regulation continued, and would
continue, as a general regulation on the grounds which he
had stated to their lordships. But nothing could be farther
from his intention than to cut the slightest disrespect on the '
Irish branch of the church. (Hear, hear.)
The Earl of CLANCARTY thanked the right rev.
prelate for the testimony he had borne te the eharacter of '
the Irish clergy, whose evince were beyond all praise. He
did not think the right rev. prelate had made out his case ;
for he had drawn a distinction which was wholly usurer-
ranted by the act of union. Attached as he was to the
anion, be regretted any step which served to perpetuate
disease's= Ones. (Hear.) He confessed he should like '
to .se • esnembee larger .hare of the dignities of the church I
bestowed epee the Irish elemb As had been observed by
the noble lord in
peessering the petition, in the church asp..
tinily there might se be se dininctions of this kind. 1
The Earl oIIIOUNTCAIIif EL aid, if all the prelates in
England were to adopt a similar ceune the necessary effect ~
would be to exclude all Irish clergymen from the pulpits of •
this country.
LUNATIC ASYLUMS BILL.
Lord CAMPBELL said that, on Friday next, he would
move the committal of this bill, in order that it might go
through committee, pro formd.

LANDED PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL.
On the bringing up of the report on this bill,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE stated the effect of some
amendments which the government now proposed to intro-
duce. Re agreed to the suggestion for erecting griod-raille,
and also as to the erection of stores in aid of drainage works,
and for the improvement of agriculture generally ; but the
proposition which had been made as to farm-houses, he could
not consent to admit

Lord MONTEAGLE inquired whether his noble friend
was prepared to adopt the suggestion of • noble duke not
now in his place, u to the insurance against fire of the mills
intended to be erected ?

The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said be intended to
insert words to make it compulsory to insure the mills.
With respect to the amendments pointed out by the noble
duke at the table (the Duke of Wallington), to compel the
payment of the wages of labour in the current coin of the
realm, he (the Marquis of Lansdowne) heartily concurred in
the principle of that intendment, but feared it would be
impassible in this bill to establish it generally. He was
ready to adopt it in so far ea this bill was concerned, and
with that view he should move an addition to one of the
clauses, to the effect that all labourers employed in the exe-
cution of works undertaken under the authority of this bill,
shall receive payment, and full consideration for such labour,
in the current coin of the realm, and not otherwise.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that though the
object bad been to introduce an alteration generally through-
out Ireland, he was much obliged to the noble marquis
for the adoption of the principle he had suggested, even to
the extent now proposed. His (the Duke of Wellington's)
opinion was, that a great part of the existing evils of Ireland
had been occasioned by the practice of paying wages by
leases of lands, and winking the rent out by the labour of
the tenant He should have been glad if the principle could
have been made general, but was obliged for its adoption
even so far as the noble marquis proposed.
After a few words from the Marquis of WILSTWILATII, these
several amendments, as stated by the Marquis of LANs-
DOWNS, were agreed to, and the report was received.