The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-14 00:00:00

him ;Ind the ebazdtwordass, waist making any attempt
to las the menet el the Me "sessass under a wo-
o tot Merses basso the ailisieetom upliestles, re-
fudpayoss* peseta him kr Sesames
law miskemeseur fit au coke of etegistrees
Tke elsektesedessos there greesed to ONIVOOD.
dim
some one 111 met weubt tbsitr
skSeed is pay` Ike demerad, la oder to asee him fest Os
id to
a erbdsal presseados. Tao
SUS WY ors Mr. Hares Puke, at Se
sobs
legal
1845, sad tbs &kolas* was menkleir
rimless legal (reads el abgedies asked the isclidereeel
Mr. Berea Parke dekestradd=est. At the esomar tie
is 1847, ter tie Snug bona by
Mr Judeesdiratimie toe east that, seder the rims
sumer es shove daletled, the istjaimest wee mistakable;
sod, after seking dander* It be could pig the mots of
Collidesi Ow, II so, he said be ealy NHS 11111 IS ester
eceguicesses to awes lo seeds estesse et the
amble afaitsairet apes the deisdant dads. that be
" had set a to bless limesif wish," the bused judge
seassed him to mestbt isildessest ; bd.= oodles-
ties, be sae plowed to be sesdaird SO the bet dos stir
dessereald Ok G. Grey, a the este bobs bees streeey
npriesited le Ids arse very such sbeitesed the term of
imprisonment, sad ultimately, before the expiration et eves
that series, seed the prima doors by the exercise of the
steredel prairegative et the ores. Meek 'Sisals wee
netted b the esentry by this petty, thrash maliguast, sae
of penecudea. A similar cask pubs. min mere
able, occurred shortly afterwards. Hr. J. Simonds, et Mare-
ley, Backs, a respectable tradesmen sle 12/
adissestiag Waists wet assessed to the
rate in resist of kb emotion of a cottage sad
eanien, at the sass of frd. He objected, on principle, to pay
the rate. Au erase et magistuttre fir payment wu made
and *rued apes his; ead, for not complying with this, he
was proseented Mob* fir a stiederseaseer. By the 83rd
Gas. Itll., e. 114,
.there was a Sepia remedy for the
by distraint of rata due under the astousit=
Th's resod , bzeineswever, the churchwarden abstained beta
gaming, than sold be no doubt of the raffelesay
II the goods el • ris to meet every dusaad is impost et
the rate. He wee tried at the Aylesbury quarter emirs,
ee the nth isa., 1848 ; sad, though diasr.eerl4:l=
—whisk they retired to decide upon—were
era es the magistrates, as several poises of legal
mimed by motel. yet, a majority eansidered that the
swat was maiateinable, notwithstaading the voluntary ab-
stiessta by the skarchwardece from the nod, smaribad by
Vealthee. Ile was Semi oak sad esaganesti te ewe week's
impelommat Mr: hike Patties bad masseed poor
1!t wee ak state/ thlarceration for the same aeon !
The kik sash boned member then read a list of eases
where MOSS bed bow made cn the property of Frisk
at Resift she each amouss es church rate—the as
alined mthei(eif to IL le. 11d., and the vales of the pro-
wtg seised to 10t 18s. Bd. In answer to all this, it might
be said that dimenters had height or takes their property
oddest to aura rata; bat Sy not truster the tusks
to ems elks sass% Swab, the guesses might be s-
owed, medidak dish be treated. He thet be asked—
Why stir the question at this time, whoa nion wee tole.
'ably quiet ? Such wee the most proper t for legislat-
ing on the subject ; for sibs could be more naconstitu-
dual than to give up t mis to agitation, and to nothing
else. It was such bitter that that hose should lead
They
pub-
lic opinion than be led, or rather driven, by it.
ought to watch the isdiestioas of publie opinion, which were
now tolerably evident ; sad they should then pro-
ceed to set. It Right be said there were no cos
plaints. Why was this ? Because the tee wee
generally evaded in large towns; wen only in small agri
cultural diddles that it was serious' y felt. In 1837 no less
than 1,328 podgier, dined by 874,719 individuals, bed
bon pmesteill Wire the grievance; and he had so doubt
that the Most= tit as strongly on the subiest sew,
though the pediess were meekly leas numeress. It was
difficult to foss as kiosk slim amount of this tax, wish
suite years sips waraliteat half a million, for the rotaries fur-
sighed oa the meths of Sir J. Beathope gave no ides el the
real state et Ilia sea, and only seed to throw dui is the
eyes et the polio. Where a tax created man f disk pats
had eS=ett to
b.sad acted a ale . That
refid°ll4lll:
mescal thew He was cite certain that nothing
but the abelliss of church rates la their per sent foes
would be setletaitsp ; it was competeet to say honouree.).
.amber le poems any substitute he them/LS peeper. In the
perish et • Islington, with its large popistise—betweas
26,030 mid 3—so suavely was the steessity of avoid-
ing unpleasent Whim ad feeling mealy the
lilt, that a clues true istradased hits a basal et 2 Wit. IV.
e. by whisk the pewlislimi to the wok were
assmesd Mr the sanest j sot by this esestasest the
poem et the pada bed pressrek. Why should sot
that maim, whisk had worked so well, be extended, at
least ie peddless mLuly situated ? He felt that he
ought ad to waists wlthast giving the boom an
Mee at what diessine ad as their own sburchm.
The Othpfirgetisisi Migeeier br December, 1835, on wi-
dths* ithlsh mull sea be Istrigset. shied the numbeis of
&NOW essgreptiess hang indspeadents, tip
mad,
reebytulans, metheellek Roma whiles, and home ma-
slavery otatiess)) at 114. Now, than ware then 11,826
eolesepai damiker. ea elabor'S adeslation the sung.
MOMS 414111.111Sain was shown to be 1201. Their
inseam wily is. hem 701. to 60W., and eves upwards.
The sensate as 92.3,5407. The eat et
ad repristag dispels wee shown to be at least
Thom Midst Neitisgsmisisa wore to mks
HOAK I medsmiss, 0%0001. Add to this
&bent halt the mouthsp theeidssielly raid %rote
re
gat seaktios kr the of the
• 1111,9261.; the total would be 1,11r706.8e
Ihme if the denominations, the flowing err
dwlmi was eaggilied—Wedayms:—Members ha Ilmet
Dais. 118,8111 lotto is Weed, 13,148; /reign
detiess, 97,451 ; teed, 409,484; minibus, is In-
ked ditto, 183 ; MS; total, 1,711. Mokpo la al.
most all parts of the Seidl amiler organkatiesy=
diatricts, Seals end teem of building,
sad other isaidestal pirpmes. ledeossieap lanihrU
land —Muslims (suer) 1,188; fn Laade. ekes
138; collage% 17 Laths& (patio) la. Deride —Nuabsr
of chemise is the UMW Kingdom, 1,911 ; Hot of mossimisis
18481 in l Ilesdepesbeek 11,648; children, 92,034; mitilese,e;
Bible Tegmbesa Society, 1 ; 8; ether assialke,ll.
The nest was that the triissaM beim whist ass
hewware the megistraies at petty assiths the
waeZiaillml *seri& Them magistrate were often clergy-
yes at die Chunk of Ingland, and it was extremely lama-
think, Ike the reeks dientore dwelt fall under the
aspires, et Ihe imam eta diferasteset. He seed not
disks the midi of the auks. The effiketions
whisikshlsyciket thus ware hums se d Them was sense
exteelhffith Wet the rimennest woa bias la bill to
plass them es Mims bobs ; but he regretted that
Sere was so ausessassisst ef mit a mempare. Re bad now
*mown dews the salgsak sad le hspsel it would meet with
support him both idlest the has. It was most kebab!'
that the "meths should be thislasterily settled. All, he
=Weed ill that. He trusted, therefore, that
gentlest, would ems forward to mi-
dgets the evils which he had detailed to the
hoes mad with that view he begged to move " that it
ilittes=ll of this beim that Osseo' swam should be
a ldiss he lb' eighths diem* rim" (floss.)

The guides bating bra rut,
Mr. P. WOOD said he had set hard very distinctly the
whole of what had fallen front the bs. genderan, bit the
sheet which la Whoever femread was Ma that must 1
late NM MAN ditemetior la that benee. (lieu.)
Hi wee set Inn that he could emir in the view which he
undembeed lem taken by the hoe,. gentlest's competing the
gensehathree etimplee entertained by dimentene en this sub
ject. It would mat be fair to measure shah denedeness by
IN. He thereon gave them full credit for the marks
whisk theystmWaed ;• but if he received a
almegail with the malatrunos of a Wesleyan, aß=
ffiemett Catholie Chapel, he would not consider it a Asia.
dm of mnecileme to condone that carport, although he
would sever willingly emieffiate out of lie own teals.
(Hear.) He admitted, however, that they eked i accuses
sere the views of other by these dory anaseesined theemelms.
Although the law Merged the church rate saquellenably
ea every property in every parish, yet from the eircum
✓ams of persons meeting together to uspees end suer the
rate, a arias had grown up that there was a plenary eat
la tasking
If,
rate. But that was not the sem. Tito law
war this, If, whoa poems were met together, they made
no rate, them eummetiosably they having fried to do that
for which they met, the majority, if they voted for no rate
at all, were held to have thrown away their votes and the
votes of the miaority prevailed. But if they were managed
with more dexterity 4, purse who understood the law,
then, by making a small but *naive rate they secured them
selves, and they were no longer bound by the crinkle of the
minority. All this generated maples in the naiads of many
that they were making a rate when they were merely assess.
big it. But it wee plating the church in an unseemly
position, es being obliged to take a minimum rate, where the
dissenters were numerous, for repairing the church. Unica,
therefore, there was SOWN conclusive evidence of surveyors
or by the monition of the archdeacon as to the precis;
amount required an illusive rate was made, and
the church was kept in the least becoming coudidon—
in each a condition In far as a g. nreman would net wish
to its his outhouses. (Hear.) That being the ace, and as
it was not to be expected that the dissenters, where they
preponderated, would carefully levy a rate for toe purpose of
putting Wes bloke in effective and complete repair, he had
thought for a long time that it was nmemary to take some
niessures with a view to a more satisfactory arrangement.
He could not agree with the hon. getatiestan that they
ought to abolish church rates altogether. (Um.) If the
rate, were to be abolished, from what source war the money
for the repairs of churches to comet The only other source
was church funds. But there were plenty of other objects
to whisk seek toads might be applied. (Heir, Iwo
It was tire that mem) might be raised by crew
atMrHars He put the views he entertained
I the Mope of is amendment to the modem of the
gentleman. The uneadreat he meant to
g:ze would he, to omit from the readmit* the
offer the abolition of church rates " and to Wart
is gcn Okla the following words : "tor discharging pa-
erne
ffiematffig from the church as by law established from
anstribeling to church rates, and from taking any part in
the levying, amessing, or admiaistering et the sune.' He
would propose that persons should register themselves as
dimentere and as such It would not be competent for them
to to churchwardens or to vote on any subject muneoted with
church rating. If tin= se views were curie t out in the shape of
a ball ate provision might be that dissenters should not occupy
pews in churches.
Mr. HEADLAM seconded the amendment.
dir. RICE heard with goes satisfaction the speech and
proposal of the hon. aid learned member for Oxford, because
it relieved him from a great difficulty as to the vote which he
should give on this occasion. He was not prepared to do
away with church-rats ahogi tiler and yet he felt the
difficulties connected with the subject.