The Express.
London, England, 1847-03-31 00:00:00

wan a es.rowate body having distinct fttneth. "'s tediseiT the greatest complaints we,- made by th; relatives of young
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how 04% We to effect the object proposed k bill s. el: men who came back aftertheirp. nod of service w"comPletodi
was to be app;:ethllt to every small town in the ka.'itdom, he that they were unlit fir any mhos' Pursuit or occupation.
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WAS orterly at a 4to vont-sive. (Hear. lest) Ss: fee as Might not the name be the case 2.0 :hie country ? .Igain :
Lon* in de hril tit fdt maw that ale bill *amid it would be well worthy e: consideration whether the period
prow a Offinis. ( r, .hear.)lln theta., of usiiiporporats, d, of enlistment could be so arranged as to.pr,..rent too largo a
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towneths nehle lard troOtted to add 4e- the body denten number of the popul9tinn fmne acquiring it knowledge of
members nominated Ispi tie crown. He (the Ertl of 1.4 - ..viilitary life. Abroad, almost every popular morament be.
coin) 'could not see why members should be added is the eiune a formidable insurrection; the population Zostantly
cam of Brighton and Cheltenham any more than in that of fortiOd themselves into corps, and became, in feet, an army,
Manchester or Birmingham, and he hoped that objestion only ...sluing the uniform. This was a point welt deserving
would receive consideretiten. He heeded to assure the the uteri. thin of the legislature and the government when
nob:e lord shot, notwithstanding the obje, tions which he hod facing trto period for which enlistments ought to
raised, he would render him every assistance iu carrying • take plate. (Hear, hear, hear.) At the time when
measure which would be effective as ,regarded the main ,he (Mr. S. Herbert) was at the War-office, he
obiect in view. had been rely anxious to provide an outlet for well- ,I
Mr. AGLIONBY thought the measure did not go far tiondiseted withers, by procuring es rewards for them cm-
enough.
The noble lord spoke of great towns and cities ; pioyment in other ways under the government, and he had
but there were many small towns in which the health of the thsUght it would hove been useful to rereuit the police force
inhabitants suffered even mom than in the larger ernes (rote the army. lir the same way the right hon. gentleman '
Lord MORFETH—There is no limitation. opposite (Mr. Fox Maale) new attempted to devise- a means
Mr. A.GLIONBY said he referred especially to the ma- by which some hold or authority would be retained over the
chinery of the bill, which was more complete in the can of men when they left the army. He concurred iu the opinion
large towns than in that of small ones. He saw no objection that it wee wholly out of the question to give- s man a Pen-
to the bringing of auburhs within the range of the corpora- &ion after tea years' service,. but still he thougtel the pet 'Posh
tion for the purposes of election ; and he thought there to give him a deferred pension at the age of 60) ewe
could not be a better instrumentality for currying out the after enrolment in the local corps, would not yr °"
act than that of a body responsible to the inhabitants of the a sufficient inducement to the best men is resat a.
town. He would suggest that the bill should be made lie should have preferred the period of fourteen yews to sin 'i
more extensive in its character, and include the health, as Weine to the soldier the whole tour of foreign a well a •
improvement and management of towns. The evils arising home service. He objected to ten also as being more es.
from the operation of so many local acts were stated in the pensive, although he readily admitted that that was not a
report of a committee which eat last year, and he hoped that grave objection, if counterbalanced by great advantages: He
a general bill, including paviiig, sewerage, lighting, and even was an advocate fax limited enlistment. (Hear, hear.) It
police, would be introduced by the government, in oomph- was not a superior class of mesa he wished foe but better men
since with the recommendation of that committee. from the same class ; and they were to be obtained by rub-
Mr. GREENE remarked that there were then as weeny Stittning a limited enlistment for the present objectionable
as twenty bills before the house for the improvement of system; which allowed a boy of 18 years of age, whose
towns, and suggested that they should all be suspended until father would not intrust with the manageraeut of the
this bill had been fully considered. As regarded the muni- most ordinary contract, to enter upon one for
cipal corporations, he thought that if web bodies were not himself which affected the whale term of his life.
qualified to carry out the measure, they were of no use what- 'He thought the present a favourable opportunity of revising
ever, and had better be aholished. (Hear.) "She pension warrant of 1833. (Hew, hear,.) He had no
Sir W. CLAY thought that full time should be given to istention of voting for the proposition of the gallant gene-
the different bodies in London affected by the bill to express red, with whom he did not agree in pelnciple •r but he was
their objections. If the bill passed, there would be some not without apprehension mete the working of the measure
hundreds of acts to be repealed, some hundreds of bodies of of the government, tinier the right hon. gentleman con-
commissioners to be dissolved—their, hear)—and he was sensed to modify it, making it more accereable to the army,
quite sure that the noble lord would allow all pasties au op- and Less hazardous to the country at large. (Hear, hear.)
portunity of stating their opinions. As regarded the sub. Mr. F. MAULE said he had not adopted ;Symms on
stitution of ore mode of supplying water to the metropolis mere chance. He bed, under all the circumstancee, eansi-
for those now in operation, that would involve the necessity duvet it a better period then the 7 years of Mr. Wyndham,
of destroying the present apparatus for supplying water in or the Hyears of his right hon. friend. Hir objection to
nearly every house in London. He (Sir W. Clay) wee will- 14 years was this : a man enlisting at 18, and serving the 14
ing, however, to give his best assietanee in passing a measure years, was then 32 years of isge,.a period of la at which it
which would be advantageous to the public generally, would be found throughout the army that the sommandiag
Mr. HOME said it was to be expected that there would officer hada strong objection to rsienlin. Such discourage-
be various sellintereated bodies standing in the way of ira- ment would be thrown upon the reienlistinent of men at
provementa which would be essential to the public interest. that age, that they woul.l be east off without ear pensien
(Hear, hear.) It wee true that there were gas companies at all. If it was proposed to give a pension, then
and water companies ready to supply gas and water to those did he object on the port of the public, ns
who Gould afford to pay for them ; but the great object of pension men after so short a period of service.
the government was to provide for the warts of those who The result of the system might be judged from the oonduet
bad hitherto been neglected; and, unless they were prepare* of the pensioners abroad. In Canada, during the lam rebel-
to grapple with self-interested bodies, it would be impousiblie lion, when every attempt was made to induce the pensioner*
to pass any measure which would be extensively beneficial. to '- the rebels, they resisted to a man, and united in
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Hehelieved that this measure was based upoo trite economy,.
because it would tend to preserve the health of the masa et?
pocdation.