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merely a struggle between Austria and her Hungarian sub-
jects, Ecglishmen might have been justified In leaving the
belligerents to themselves, in the hope that some amicable
arrangement might have beta come to, which while it secured
the constitutional privileges of Hungary, would still have
preserved her subjection to the crown of Austria. So long
as the battle remained bet rein two parts of the same king-
dom, non-intervention remained a tenable position, as ten.
side as it would have been in our own great civil war be-
tween the king and the parliament. And here let him re-
mind the brute that desperate us was the struggle, net one
word of disloyalty was uttered against Austria, until the
emperor called in the usistance of the stranger.—(Hear.)
Mr. ROEBUCK wished, before the noble lord the Secre-
tary for Foreign Affairs rose, to wide: es the house, to make
a tew otaervations. The hon. member who bad just sat
down had said that this was an European question. In that
view he (Mr. Roebuck) agreed with him. It was a qacstion
which involved great points of international law and of in-
ternational policy.. The question of law was beyond their
reach, but they might stilt deal with the question of policy.
The important principle with which he had to deal was that
in the internal affairs of any country there should be no ex-
ternal force or pressure nerd to coerce the will of
the people. (Hear, hear.) That was the point which
his hon. friend the member for Middlesex sought to
establish, and to point out that a great infringement of this
principle was going on before our eyes in the interference of
Russa with the affairs of Hungary. Unfortunately, the
emperor-despot, as he wee called, of Rtusia, was nut the only
llluropean power that had been guilty of this sort of inter-
ference. (Hear, hear.) He who trampled on the Roman
people in their present weakness was more despicable and
more barbarous than the Emperor of Russia. He snt Lis
troops to fight the Hungarians on the open field of battle,
and was less censurable than the trading politicians who, by
means of a besieging army, sought to work out the ends of
a pitiful, paltry, intriguing spirit. (Hear, hear.) Let
not the noble lord suppose that because petitions were
presented to that house praying for the main-
tenance of peace end the settlement of interna-
tional disputes by arbitration, the old spirit of this
country was decayed. It was just as much alive as ever; and
he (Mr. Roebuck) deprecated every expression in that house
which should have the effect of leading foreign nations to
fancy that anything she had happened. We were not afraid
of war. (Cheers.) We thought war a dreadful calamity;
but there were calamities still more dreadful. Subjuga•ion
to despotism—the subversion of all the honour of a great
people, and of all their high aspirations after liberty and
' power—this was worse than war. England, great, and
mighty, and secure from danger, as she was, ought to
take upon herself the character of an arbitrator, to go
• among the nations' and say, " Listen to us, listen to our
suggestions, for he that militates against the principles of
international policy must nut count on our support." The
h.-use might depend upon it that in such a cue Russia and
other powers would be obedient, not to England, but to
reseon ; not to our arms, but to the suggestions which hu-
' :Lenity had dictate& (Chi ers ) Therefore, if they brought
the power of this country, armed by public opinion and by
' our wenderlul position and great influence, to b ar upon
these cootending parties, we should do that which would
endear our name, not to tie country (sly, but to the world,
I because we should have rendered ourselves the benefactors of
mankind. (Cheers.)
Colonel THOMPSON anticipated the happiest results from
L the contests which were now heicg waged upon the conti-
nent; he firmly believed that in the end liberal principles
in Europe must be predominant.
Mr. MACGREGOR viewed the ir.terference of Austria
with Hungary as a strait misfortune, and expressed the ut-
most confidence in the ability of the noble lord at the head
of the foreign department to preserve the continuance of
tranquillity.
Lord C. HAMILTON expressed his belief that the un-
fortunate peasants of Hungary were deservieg of sincere

NEW WRIT.
On the motion of Mr. littutilEktrON, it was ordered that
the Speaker do issue his warrant to the Clerk of the Crown,
to make out a new writ for the eli etion of • member to serve
in parttime, at for the City of London, in the zoom of Jame*
Pattisen, Esq., deceased.
ORANGE PROCESSIONS.
Mr. REYNOLDS gave notice that on Heredity nest be
would move for a copy of the correspondence between the
government and the evil and military authorities in Down,
gelatin to proressioes sod public meetings.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL asked tho Secretary for Ireland
whether the attention of government bad been called to the
charge of the coroner on the inquest en the bodies of the per
eons killed at Donnisbray, who said that government had
sanctioned the procession of orangemen by an armed force,
land whether it was considered consitutional by the govern-
' ment, that an illegal assembly should be thus protected ; anti
farther, whether there was any hope that the tequiry which
they had undertaken wield be so pushed as to make a
report before the rising of the house. He also asked,
whetner, if the fee's stated at the coroner's inquest were
true—vii., that Mr. Berm, a m.gietrate, led the procession
on that occasion, and other magistrates took pert in it, they
would not consider it to be their duty to remove those patties
frem the commission of the reace ?
Sir G. GREY believed that the charge of the coroner had
not been breught to the notice of government in any shape.
As to the statement that the troops had been sent for the
purpose of protecting this procession, that was not the cue ;
the troops were sent, according to the best information he
had received, to pretect the public against the consequences
of a breach of the peace; not to protect one party weinst
the ocher, but to prevent a collision. The troops did not
compose the procession; they occupied the ground where
the prove ion was to pass. A porn .n of the trcoes might
have accompanied the procession over the ground where
they apprehended an attack was to be male,
but the rest remained on the ground. He had no
doubt *hit the Ltd-Lieutenant would take those
measures which weuld be most effective fur the purpose,
bat it was impo sible at present to say what measures go-
vernment might feel it to be their duty to take when the m-
ettle of the investigation was before them.
RUSSIAN INVASION OF HUNGARY.
On bringing up the report of ways and means,
Mr. BRO ritEaTorr asked whether, according to th•
standing orders, the amendment should not have some refer-
ence to the sutjeet of the report?
Mr. OSBORNE could put those scruples at rest, because
it was his intention to make a motion in accordance with the
forms of the house. He thought he was justified in saying
that great misapprehensions had been most general in
this country with regard to the ease of Hungary, and that
they extended as welt to the house, but in this great miscon-
cerioneexisted else in the minds of some hon. gentlemen 'goda
especially in the mind of the hon. member for
ford, as as to the real Leering of this question.
It was generally supposed and said— iedeed a laugh
was raised in the house when he presumed to
mention the free and independent kingdom of Hungary—
it was generally supposed that Hungary was a provioce of
the Austrian dominions. He repeated that the constitution
of Hungary was free and independent—(near, hear) —that
it had never been at any time a preview(' of the Austrian
dominions ; that as far back as 1000, when Stephen I.
succeeded tithe throne of Hungary, it was an independent
kingdom, as there were circumstances connected with teat
kinadom for which we should feel a peculiar interest ; for
five ye ars after the institution of our own parliament Hun-
gary had a dirt of her own, Hungary had munieip +1 Menet-
noes of her own, and, although they might not have been
as perfect us we could wish, still they bore in them the germs
of freedom and of constitutional liberty ; and Hungary had
been, at all 'isms, an oasis of liberty amidst a desert of
despotism. It was in 1.526 that the crowns of Austria and
Hungary were united under Ferdinand I. ; but, although
the crowns were united, the kingdom of Hungary retained
her ae pirate privilege., and Fe.rdinsne I. took an oath to
maintain those privileges. He paced over the time
when Hungary stood in the van against Turkish
invasion, and gam • to 1741, when Maria Theresa
called ueon the Hungarians to support her throne.
And what was the first course taken by tent Queen?
The first act of Maria Therein, in succeeding to the Hun
garian crown, was to revive the decree of Andreas 11. What
was that decree ? That was an important question for those
who lauethed at Hungary bei .g celled a free and indepen-
dent einedem. The maws charts of Hungary was pasted
eight years slier our own morna charta. She took this oath,
teat " should I or any of my successors at any time iufrieee
the mevilegra of the Hungeri en peep', it is permitted to
you or your descendants, by virtue of this promise, to defend
yourselves without being treated as rebel.." This was the
constitution sworn to by Maria Theresa in 1741, but there was
another compact. In 1700 Leered ascended the throne,
the Hungarian people being distrustful of the Austrianem-
pire, the house of Hapsburg h eying shown those spore
tome of Witchery which it had since consummuted
in 1843. In 1790 the Hungarian Dint passed what was called
the enlarged ceetipset, and by article 10 of the canstitution
Leopold tieuk this oath : Ile declared that" Hungary wes a
country free and independent, in her entire system of legis-
lation end government; that she was not subject to any
other people or any other state, but that see should have her
own wparate exetence and kw own constitution, and shoal
be governed by kings crowned according to her national
laws and customs " That oath was taken on the 11th of
April, 1818, by the Emperor Ferdinand II.; he guaran-
teed the f xistence of a separate diet; he guaranteed liberty
of the yew; he made those promises in 1818, Do broke
them perfidiously in 1849. Should he ha told, with
the se proofs, that the Hungarian kingdom was not as
free and independent a kingdom as Hanover, or any
other kingdom attached to s larger state? It had been
said, look how you have been treating your ancient elle !
as if the claim el the Empereir Francis Joseph
to the kingdom of Hungary was a legal claim
Re maintained, in the face of all Europe, teat the
Emperor Francis Joseph was at this time an usurper in
the king tom of Ilungary. He maintained that
by the laws of Hungary he was, technically
speaking, a " foreigner" at this moment, and that is such he
was not able to take the throne. He wee neither king de 'act('
or de jure, till he was crowned, and bad taken the oaths ac-
cording to the compact. What was the third article of the
Huegarion constitution confirmed by Ferdinand I in 159 G,
sworn to in 1790, and again in 1845 ? " The King of Hun-
gary cannot be discharged from the duties of sovereignty
without consent of the nation, the Diet having the Reprint-
ment of a regency in ease of incompetence or resigns-
tion of tee king." What course had been pursued?
This unfortunate and well meaning emperor, our " an-
cient ally," Ferdinand 11., had been shuffled off the
throne, and Francis Joseph, not the lineal summer,
but the nephew, was put upon the throne. Would
any one say that Francis Joseph was at this time righ.ful
King of Hungary? He lareented that when he *eked a
question the other day of the noble lord the First Lord of
the Treasury, he teemed the rising of the Hungarian nation
in favour of their rights and privileges an insurrection.
Lord J. RUSSELL—I usAl the word " insurrection,"
but I did not mean to preclude anything as to its being a
just insurrection. I did not mean to preclude that.
Mr. OSBORNE.—The noble lord was quite correct ; be
used the term without mention, which, although signify- •
ing illegality in this country, in Hungary signifi d what
was legal and right, for when they made a lesy en mane in
defence of their liberties, the Hungarian term used, was
" ituurreetio," and when the Hungarian diet in 1741 said
"edam of sanguinent pro nostro rege," that was "inane-
rectio" in the Hunguian sense 01 the word; that was, ,
in teed, an insurrection in a good sense. It was the legal
term of Hungary. Long might such insurrections be in
fashion. Such was the Jammu-eon for which Hampden died ,
—(hear, hear)—such was the insurrection of 1688. Incur.
rections which formed the proudest pages in our
own history! He passed over the commercial admen- ,
tams to be derived by this country by the recognition
of the free and independent kingdom of Hungary. There ,
was another question, in his mind, of much greater import-
ance. This was not a mere struggle for Hungarian irate-
pendenes. He looked upon this struggle which was going
on in Europe es a struggle between the two gees of
despotism and coostitutional government. It was a 'struggle
commenced in Iluogiery, but who knew when the struggle
might not extend ? When the last barrier wee sw epe away,
Hungary and the finest parts of the ease of Eueope would
becomepire. nothi
lie hng
ad given more than s•lavi voted sh e
fora
arnleeitreetionts of the Russian
emin the
abstract principle of which he perfectly agreeel, but 'he would
acv that a time might arrive when be would prefer
to fight the battle of European liberty in the Baltic rather
than in the British Channel. These sentiments might not
be agreeable to Wine, but the evil seta more immediate than
they thought. He should proceed to move for any papers
connected with the advance o ( the Russian troops into the
kthinegdboomn.omi HeneubengraryfOr"SnelneLi.Dl it (for the sa'isfaction of
w ace' communication
that had passed involving naval orith military aid or any in-
terference by this country,. (Loud cheers )
Mr. M. MILN ES, i a mewling the motion, observed that
his hon. friend the me :mbar for Middlesex had so exhausted
the subject as to ren ler it unnecessary that he should hug
detain the house. lebe question they had to consider was,
whether the noble I ore the Secretary for Foreign Affairs was
at one with the pr stele of this country as regarded the advance ,
of the Resew, into Transylvania. It was hardly to be ex ;
peered that the noble lord, situated as he was, could have let
movements of such political importance pus without some ;
expression A opinion. (Hear,
hear.) But that die not
fairly ler ea him to the charge that, by his despatches, he
had lee' nraged Hungarian disaffection, and thus imperilled
the epeneence of the Austrian empire. The question be-
tween. ineeed. Austria and her Hungarian subjects was one which,
in it a first stage, might have been settled amicably and with
honest to both parsies, but in his opinion an amicable sole-
teon became impossible from the moment that the Russians ,
int afered in the matter. (Hear, hear.) Now the quest on !
le ad &seemed an aspect imputative not only to the belligerenee
hut to Europe, and one which could not long pass unnotie:sel
by English politicians. He would implore ever! Bogliseeman
Ito give the subject the serious consideration which ito ',event-
ance deserve !, and net to look upon it as merelya struggle
between a continental power and its :svelte:el province.
What were the present features of this was? Was it no. a
civil war of the most frightful and sanguinary character ?
(Hear, hem) It was one in which eworni.lis of the Austrian
empire was rousted against the seminar:. But still even with
01 its magnitude and dreadful result% 83 lung as it remaiqed

are many, in this country who entertain the opinion
that there are tw r objects England ought to aim at—the one
is to maintain peace, the other to count for somethir g in the
transactions of the world. It is riot fitting that a country oe.
cupying suet a proud position as England, having such ye.
rious and extensive interests, should lock herself up, and in
simple regard to her owu irvernal ',theirs remain
a passive and mute spectator of everything going on.
It is quite true it may be said, " Your opinions are but epi.
nions ; you express them against powers who have large
semi a at their command ; and what are opinions sianut
armies I" My answer is, opinions are wronger them armies.
(Hear, hear.) Opinions, if they are foutded in truth and
justice, will in the end prevail against the bayonets of
infoutry—ogainst the tire of artillery. (Cheers ) The refore
I say that, armed with opinion—if that opinion is pro.
pounced with truth and justice, we are in the end strong,
and likely to make our opinions prevail. What is now hap.
pening on the whole surface of the continent of Eon pe is a
proof that this expression of mine is a truth. For a great
length of time, for many years, the governments of Europe
imagined that they could keep down opinions by force of
arms, and that by obstructing any progressive improvement
they could prevent that extremity of revolution which wee
the obj.ct of their constant dread. We expressed
an opinion contrary to that. (Hear.) We have been
blamed for that. We have been accused of meddling with
matters which did not concern us, and with affronting
nations and governments, by giving opinions lon what was
likely to happen. But the result has proved that, had our
opinion be en taken, it would have been a great deal better
for those countries and for the interests of humanity. (Hear,
hear.) Those governments used to say. "The man whom
we fear is the moderate reformer. We care not for the
violent radical, who pre poses extremities which disgust all
but the violent. The enemy we are most afraid of is the mo-
devote reformer, because, he is such a plausible man, it is
difficult t 3 persuade people that his counsels would lead to
extreme consequences. Therefore, of all men, let us keep
clear of the moderate reformer ; and let us prevent the first
step of improvement, because that improvement might lead
to extremities of innovation." But I believe the 'towers
and the governments of Europe have at last
learnt the truth of that opinion of Mr. Canning
" that those who object to improvement b-cause it is innova-
tion, wiel, one day or other, be compelled to accept innova-
tion when it has ceased to be improvement." (Cheers.)
It is said that this country now stasis so low in the
pubic opinion of Europe, that we are treated with con-
tempt both by :the governments and the people.
It is a singular mode, certainly, in which that
want of respect has been shown, when, from
the north to the south, in mos of difficulty, not
only between nations, but internally between the onveen-
ments and the it own subjects, we havelicem asked and invited
theone
case, object
at
least, we have now, I trust, entirely accomplished that ob.
jeet. (Hear, hear.) We bays heard a great deal, in the
course of this session, of the sham mediatloa we were career-
ing on between Denmark and Prussia. That sham media-
tion has resulted in a real preliminary tr. rty ; and I hope
that that preliminary treaty may end in an ertire ) &cities-
tion and an arrangement of the matters in dispute between
the two countries. (Hear, hear.) For any to suppose that
any government of England can wish to excite revolutionary
movements in any part of the world, to suppose that
any government of England can have any other desire
than to confirm and maintain peace between Legions,
and tranquillity and harmony between goveenmewts
and their subjects is really a degree of I,lmOratioll
and folly which I never could suppose that room:
men could commit (hear, hear) which may do
very well for a newspaper article—(hear, hear)—but which
I own it astonishes me to ever hear in a speech in par-
figment. (The noble lord resumed his seat amid loud and
protracted cheers.)
Lord D. STUART expressed hie conviction tharthe coun-
try and Europe at large were indebted to his hon. and
gallant friend for having brought forward this question,
and no one was more indebted to him than the noble
lord at the head of the government for the opportunity
thus atfor led him of explaining the expression he had
used of "the insurrection in liungsry.' (Hear, bear.)
He considered this one of the most important sub-
peas that could be brought before parliamett. He
differed from the noble lord as to the necessity of Austria
feting preserved as a barrier against encroachment on eller
hand. Henceforth she would be the mere tool of Russia
the greater therefore the necessity to establish Hurepry, and
to re-establish Poland, as gloat constitutional coon.
tries. Nothing would more contribute to the peace of Europe
and of the world. (Hear.)
Mr. J. WYLD reminded the noble lord opposite (C.
Hamilton) that, whatever the constitution of 11.,ngsry, the
joint attempt of Austria and ituesia was to crush and de-
stroy it.
Mr. OSBORNE said, as the noble lord had intimated that
there had been no official commuuications on the subject, he
would not press his amendment.
The amendment was accordingly withdrawn, and the re-
port was received.
The following bills were read a third time and paw
Stamp, &c., Allowznecs Bill; Judgments (lrden., )
The ansendmen4 in the Poor Law Union Charges Act
Amendment Bill were considered nod agreed to. The third
reading was fixed for Monday at noon.
The Royal Pavilion (Brighton) Bill, the New Forest and
Waltham Fewest Bill, and the Slave Trade (Persian Gulf)
Bill, rowed through committee.
DUBLIN IMPROVEMENT (No 2) BILL.
The amendments in this bill were considered and agreed
to, after a short conversation between the Arrottanv-
(iar RRAL and Mr. itiiitNOLDIS, as to a clause which gave
compensation to certain officers, and which was stated to
meet the approbation of the citizens of Dahlia.
The Defects in Lessee Suspension B'eil was read a second
time.
The house adjourned at a quarter after 4 o'clock.

Lard PALMERSTON—Sir, is the few observations which
I ehall feel it my duty to make upon the motion of my hon.
!rand, and whet has passed is debate, I wish to guard my-
self in the first place against the possibility that anything
I may say may expose me to the imputation of entertaining
en unfth 'idly feeling towards the government and empire of
Austria. I know well that imputations have been c .st upon
her Majesty's government, and myself as the organ of that'
government, in regard to our foreign relations—imputs-
tints of being guided and imp, lied in our intercourse with
the powers of Eurepe by persenal feelings of hatred sad
dislike. Those imputation% let them came from
what quarter they mac—let them be written or
spoken—if they are sincere, are the result of ig-
norance and fully—if insincere, I leave others to qua-
lify them as they may. (Hear, hear.) It is the grossest
ignorance to suppose that the government of this country, or
the man who may fur them be charged with the conduct of
its foreign relations, can be influenced in the management of
its affairs by any other feeling than what he, according to his
political opinions and views, and the interests of the country
snot the general interests of the c;.ilised world, may deem to
be his duty. (Hear.) Now, sir, Austria is a pewee towards
which the government of this country ought to feel gr, et
consideration. We have been told aloe is our ancient ally. We
have had the term ally and allies rung in our ears
by those who must be ignorant of the slipstei expression
they are using, or of what I must admit to be its general ac-
ceptation, forgetting they are uaicg a totally unmeaning
term. What is an ally ? An ally is a power allied to you
by a treaty or engagement to carry on some active aperatton,
political or otherwise. But to call a country an shy merely
hoe .use it is in a 'tete of friendship with us, is an expression
,hat has no meaning, because it is applicable to a very power
in the world with whom we are not in a state of war.
(Hear.) Austria has been an ally in most important European
transactions, and the remembrance of that alliance ought
undoubtedly to create in the feelings of every Englishnaan
who remembers the history of his country—feelings of re-
gard towards that power with whom we have been so allied
It is true that in tl.e course of those repeated alliances,
Austria, from no fault of her own, but from irresistible ne-
cessity, was repeatedly compelled to depart from that alli-
ance, and to break the engagement by which she was bound
to us. We did not reproach her far yielding to the necessity
of the moment, and no generous mind would think that that
circumstance ought to diminith or weaken the tic which for-
mer transactions mignt have crested between the two powers.
liogCer and larg.r considerations ought to render the main.
teu-ece of the Austrian empire an object of solicitude to
every British statesmen. (Hear,he.r.) Austria is a most
important element in the balance of Huron.: ? ( Hear, hear.)
Standing in the centre of Europe, a barrier against encroach-
ment on one side, and invasion on the other, the political
independence and liberty of Europe are bound up with
the maintenance and integrity of Austria as a great
European power; and therefore anything that tends di-
rectly, or even by • remote contingency, to weaken or cripple
Austria, still more to reduce her from the position
of a first rate power to that of • secondary
state, most be a great calamity to her, and one which every
Englishman ought most anxiously to deprecate and try to
prevent. However, it is perfectly true, as has been stated,
that for a long course of time Austria has not been a
.aveurite with toe liberel party in Europe. By the course
of policy the h .6 pursued she hes, in the opinion oft great
part of the continent, identified herself with obstruction to
the progress of liberty, and that circumstance has made her
proportionably a favourite in the eyes of others. (Loud
cries of " hear.") When we hear such declarations in THE tories will, it is said, muster their utmost
favour of Austria, I would warn the Austrian goverrment available strength this evening on Mr. littnsataN's
not to trust too mach to them. (Hear, hear.) It is not as motion. The motion is a distinct, although not per-
an ancient ally of England, it is not as the point of resistance hops very direct, vuto of censure upon ministi ra for
in the centre of Europe,against any general disturbance to
say the °ober they have pursued with regard to distrcss
the balance of power—it is as the former; symbol, I
in Ireland. It finds something
former, for I trust it is an no longer, of resistance to an en.blameworthy all
ereachment, political and racial—it is in that capacity that that has been done for the saving of human life
Austria has wen the affections of some men who have been by means of local assessment and imp /nal aid ;
charged with the conduct of public affair. (Hear, hear.) while in terms it suggests nothing more e fficient for
With regard to the present question, lam sure that every- the purpose, and less objectionable. This is precisely
body who has heart what has peesed—that everybody in , a motion
this country who has given th• it attentionattentionto the most ins sued
. as every factious or untzrafificd man on
portant events which have taken place in Hungary—must feel either side of the house may with i'mpunity sup-
that my hon. and gallant friend needed no apology for draw- port ; and accordingly it is generally r nticipated that
ing the attention of the parliament of England to transactions the minority OR a division will torix a curious and
deeply affecting political principles in Europe. and hiving • various eta ction of malcontents, having amongst
moat important bearing upon the general balance of Euro-
tt.,em
no one principle in agnmon either of legislation
?min power. The house will not expect ms to follow those
who have ep ken to-day by endeavouring to pate judgment or policy. is
either way between the Austrian government and the Hun- But, albeit, the resolution of which Mr. llonsot
avian nation. I say Ilungerien nation, because, in spite of bats given notice, is thus vague and evasive in phra-
what had fallen from the noble lord who last addressed the ecology, it would hardly b a fair to deny that it
house, I do believe, from the information I have received—l
appeals to. a powerful and prevalent class interest,
don't pretend to say I may not be mistaken—hut I firmly
believe that this war between Austria and Hungary and to a stall wider and mote influential class sympa-
has enlisted on the aide of Hungary the hearts and souls of thy. It is in truth a proprsal to fire a feu
the whole people. (Lend cries of "Hear.") I believe that de joie over the destruction of the proposed
the other races distinct from the Magyars have forgotten Amended Pow-law for Ireland, in the house
hewer feuds between them and the Magyar populatien, and -
of Lords. Tne earte parties end the same persons
I that *great portion of them have united in what they con-
I sides a national contest. It is true, as stated by my hon. who, step by steps contested that bill during its pro
-
and gallant friend, that Hungary has b: en for centuries a grew through the lower house, now that its fate hes
state, which, although united with Austria by the been sealed in tb upper, come forward to ask taunt-
link of the crown, lass nevertheless been separate sad ingly what retr.ed has been applied this session to
y
distinct from Austria by its own complete constitution, -
the acknowledged evils of the existir g system. Clouse
That constitution has, doubtless, many defects. (Rear, hear.)
I believe some of them were remedied not long sgo. by clause, sisey after day, this landlord minority vainly
("Hear" from Mr. Osborne) It is not the only ancient endeavoure's to thwart the adoption of an improved
eostitution on the continent which is susceptible of great scheme of poor law for Ireland ; and now that their
improvement. (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) It is of
ths utmost importance to Europe that itTia Sbollos - •
object hiss been attained by the greater dexterity and
remain a great and powerful country. But It is impossible supertedi strength of their allies in the irresponsible
to disguise, if the war is to be fought out, that Austria chamber, they desire to signalise the victory by a vote
must be thereby weakened—(heta, hear)—because if, on of cr.nsure on the government for not having sue-
the one hand, Hungary should in the end be successful in cesided in carrying some remedial mtasure.
eeperaiing from Austria, then such a dismemberment must
orevrnt Austria from occupying that great position she has For it is idle to pretend that this is any other than
motion
ro
hitherto held among the powers of Eupe. If, on the other a landlord's question. The language of the
hand, the war being fought to its utmost, Hungary should to be made by Mr. IlonswaN has so little trace of
be crushed in battle by the superior farce of Austria, then t'lltt happy precision which ordinarily marks his par-
Austria will have crushed her own right arm. (Hear, liamentary offspring that we are almost tempted to
hear.) It is therefore much to be desired, not simply
the principle of general humanity, but upon that of sound
on I doubt itsparentage. It's inaccuracy, both as regards the
European policy and the moot friendly reg ird to thecollocation of sub cc' and the choice of phrasal is quite
Aust-isn empire—it is most de vontly to be wished that tons ,
remarkable; and at earths prefix of the hon. member's
Str=at Conteke Inizht be brouc'at to a termination by an mai- ' name we should.-have rather surmised that it proceeded
cable arrangemt nt betwe the contending parties which from some of the dull or blundering country party,
shall, or, the one hand, seeds!, the national feeling of Hun- ' who are as ustich at a loss to comprehend the meaning
gory, end, on the other, not Is ave to Austria a larger Poland
of others, P.s they are to find words expressive of their
• .
witin her empire. (Hear, hear) Her Majesty's govern-
Brett have not, in the present state of the matter, thought own. gall, after some consideration, the purpose
that any opportunity has as yet presented itself which could grows plain. The drift and tendency of the motion
enaele them with any prospect of advantage to make
any official communitation of the opinions they enter- must either be sheer faction or antipathy to an.
e'rfective poor law. We are unwilling to r.scribc the
taro. I say official, as contra-distinguished from former to the member for Cockermouth ; but v;-e can
those expressed in a more private and confidential menace
But undoubtedly it would he the duty of her Majesty's go: only acquit him of the desire of being wan'Anly
verement, if any ruck occasion orearree which migb% lead chievous by supposing that he has sufferei:s himself to
them to think that any such expression of °piney, would be entrapped into playing for the Irish landlords their
lead to a favourable result, nut to let such an fuortunity often lost but ever renewed game a:gainst the rights
pass by. (Bowl cries of t. Hear, hear.") Ido not
think the preservation of peace is in any ,legraa endangereder of ate empire.
of the poor and the exchesiu'
by an expression of opinion resoecttog the transactions If all that is and all that Ir.s been proposed for its
with Hungary. I agree wit those, and I know there improvement be deeervinl of reprehension, then the

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