The Express.
London, England, 1851-05-13 00:00:00

any representation to the directors alter that that the stuck
WAS inadequate. 1 thought we could get on a little longer.
did not think the application would be successful. On
Wednesday, April 30, our goods traffic was suspended
during the busy portion of the day, and I did consider that
with our present locomotive power we should be able to
work the traffic of that day. i umilit to say that three
times the ordinary traffic may be worked for a single day
with the same locomotive power. L have stated that 1
believed the Druid engine was between 20 and 21 tons
weight, but have since seen her weighed at Crewe, sail it
was found to be 15 tuna, 2 cwt. If I had had a better
. .

After the report of thin meeting, given in yester-
d:vyn E.rpress, was dispatched, the motion for the adoption
of the report haring been carried,
The tier. T. HINNTY moved and Mr. Eestss, M.P.,
o led the fourth resolution, conveying a vote of
thanks to the Duke of Iletlford, presi amt of the
tate, for his munificent subscription; and to Lord John
k,r his kindness in taking the chair on the pre-
sent ,sra•ion.

Lord J. RUSSELL rose to return thanks, and was re-
etir.d witk enthusiastic cheering. Ile said—l beg leave
to return you lily most hearty thank,' fur the vote you
have just Fe..,11. It certainly was, as my hon. friend,
31r. Evans, has remarked, the agreeable custom of my
life to attend mutually at these meetings; but I have nut
ter some years found sufficient time to enable me to do
so. I aiu glad, however, to find from the examination
which has taken place to-day, that the schools base
not only kept up their former reputation, but that they have
greatly improved ; as.d indeed any person who is a friend
to the most enlightened system of education could not but
be gratified at the intelligence, the powers of memory, and,
abate all, the knowledge of the scriptures which have been
exhibited by the boys. (Hear, hear.) I have always been
a friend to the system of education pursued by this society,
b. Caulse it appeared to me, as you have been told in the
course of these proceedings, eminently national. (Hear,
hear) Then are many other societies engaged in the work
of "Meatier., and most walully engaged, and they have a
gnat number of pupils. With regard to one of those
societies. which is called the National Society, I confess it
k 4 ms to lOW that, however great may be the benefits it
confers, it is deficient in this respect—that the greater por-
tion of the children of the population of this country are
est-lulled tram the schools by the terms they impose. With
regard to another society which is endeavouring to make
its way, and which rests upon secular education only,
1 may observe that the present society has • great
degree of superiority over that kind of edueation, because
the religious element of man which guides his conduct on
earth, and on which he founds his hopes fur the future, is
oinitectl from that system. (Hear.) 'I herefore, commend-
ing, as I am quite ready to commend, the efforts made by
all other societies, I think upon the whole we have not only
chosen that which is the best system of education, but that
which is best suited to the wants of the great majority
of the people of this country. That we have not made fur-
ther progress--that this society should have existed between
forty and fifty years, and that notwithstanding all the
efforts which have been made, the people of this country
are not more generally educated is I think • source of deep
mortification. I hare myself conducted that part of the
business concerning education which has been undertaken
by the state, and I have always felt it a misfortune that dif-
tenures of opinion have prevented us from com-
bining for the support of one general system. But,
however that may be, I hope and believe that what
has been done by the government has not been
without its beneficial effects. (Ilear, bear.) It should be

supply of locomotive .tuck on the Wednesday is question,
should not have started the Di uid with the load I did. If
the weather and other circumstances had been favourable,
I still feel that the Druid could have taken her load to
Manchester, assisted as she would be up the Boole and
Newton inclines. The other circumstances I refer to are
the falling of sleet, the wind, and the carriages nut being in
good running condition. Some of the carriages were not in
good working condition. I have had proof of tl nit this morning
The test required by Captain Latf'an showed that such a
load would depress the carriage so much as to bring them
almost upon the tire of the wheels. That weight was up-
wards of 4 tons—from 4 tons to 4 tons 10 cwt. in each ear-
riage—which would be equal to 62 passengers at 11 stomp
each. I stated in my former evidence that the carriages
would bold 60 to 70 persons, but Ido not think so now.
"'he interior dimensions of the carriages are 19 feet lit.
by 7 feet 2 inches, less sonic deduction amounting to 7 fast
2 inches by 3 inches, and 2 feet sby 12 inches. That gives
an available spate of 1361 square feet, and allowing that
each person occupied a space of 18 inches by 18 inches,
that would give 60 persons in each carriage. Ido not think
that is allowing too much space. The result of the trial
this morning is to make it probable that the bodies of some
of the carriages touched the wheels, in which case each
carriage would act as a break, and so far tend to impede the
progress of the train. I should think that would
arise from a want of a sufficient stiffness in
the 'swinge of the carriage. The carriage in ques-
tion did not belong to us, but bad come to Chester
the previous night, and I bail not had time to examine them ;
but no examination, except they were loaded, could have
shown their weakness. Supposing I had thew: carriages •
longer time, it is probable I should have started them with-
out examination.
By_Mr. Monk—A year and a half before the opening of
IN Walton line our stock had been increased by !Our loco-
Motims, making fourteen engines as the whole of our stock
at the time of the opening of the line to Walton. The 15
miles and 40 miles, mentioned as the whole of our line, does
sot give a correct notion as to the requirement of locomotives
far the traffic. From Birkenhead to Chester we run never
less than 12 trains each day. including goods trains, and
sometimes 15, and the same number back again. From
Manchester to Chester we run four trains, including goods,
and the same backwards, ordinarily. We run Sunday
trains from Chester to Birkenhead, but not between Chester
and Birkenhead. On the Wednesday evening I was on the
station at Chester, and there were women and children
there.

said and acknowledged, that the tint grant proposed by By Captain Leffan—l consider two trips, going and re-
the pm-rum:Di for the purposes of education was 10,0001., turning from Chester to Manchester, being 160 miles, is a
and this arose from the suggestion of one of the early hard day's work for an engine. From Chester to Birken-
patrons of the society, and a tried friend to education— head, five trips each way, would be an equal amount of
Lord Brougham. (hear, hear.) It should, moreover, be wort for an engine. It would be a rather more severe one
stated, that in proceeding further we found that while the that, whilst four tripe would be under. The mileage would
Treasury undertook to distribute the sums allotted to the be the same, but there would be more stoppages on the
diffenmt schools, it was found to be impossible to make any Chester and Birkenhead five trips.
difference between schools of one kind oranother—between By Mr. Browne (who said he now appeared for the wit-
sehnols where they might hope to lay the foundation of nem as well as the station committee)—The Druid had
permanent inatruction, and those which might perhaps he never been weighed to my knowledge before being weighed
raised hr one man, and which might in a few years fall at Crewe in the course of this inquiry. I mentioned her
into decay. It was therefor,. proposed—and I myself took weight as 20 or 21 tom from comparing her with other
an alive port in the proceeding—that there should be a engines, the weight of which I knew. lam not resident
special committee of members of the government appointed engineer an the Cheshire Junction line, and therefore the
to make the distribution of its FILMS a matter of mine responsibilities do not attach to me respecting that
inquiry and examination, with a view to improve the line as the Chester and Birkenhead. My instructions from
Prom
of education, and to see that all moneys arising the secretary to obtain additional rolling stock for the races
from public grants should be laid oat with a due regard to applied to extra carriages and nut to an increase of lacono-
the permanent welfare of the stamstry. That system has Bye stock.
been under the euperintimennee noble friend Lord By the Foreman—lt was my duty to see that the loco-
Lin.downe, who has bestowed rut labour and attention motive stack was in good working condition, but it was not
tlisiit the subject and who has, I ham,
_with the assist- in my discretion to increase the locomotive stock. Ido not
aver of Sir James Shuttleweellt, useritnneel bagel to- think it was a dereliction of duty for Allison to leave Man.
the
wank advancement of anemia Weer bear. I ehester on the 30th April, and go to Chester by the second
will ouly say further that in rearming to this deice, w ich train. It was in his discretion to do
I have dime ith orr.at gratification, in oning the The Coroner said he now proposed to call Captain
progress which has been made the is &mita, and the Las.
success which has attended its I emanat but re. alb. Moak, on behalf of the company, said this involved
tolleet that is former days, when Wisailog ussibip Otitis an important question. Capt. Laffan came down there as
society, him wea eyendassoo. the enkilihmso 0( 0000ainisser, to seeks an inquiry which was
unwsuried hamweismar, whisks's done bus limed bum U. leestbet new 'ping ea, in his capacity
I have seen Wilk/rhea pearls, Ina is Ms se gmenminent esenamlware be bail facilities afforded to
Lanausee and with his silvery woks We ease sin et Wu flee eseerleinint !Me and *ming opinions not ae-
seriptural education. I have witntomi We sossiand carded peenewe alba in Mabee' inquiries like the pre-
In,nd the Bishop of Norwieh, with hhl and eel einlpesise seat, and be tbanglit it wail le a dangerous peseedont if
'Mori ing the &tett-ince he thought II" mend weer as- an inquiry bean a const like this (the last !malign
naline the helices of his heart. I kayo sewnewer labourod of our Saxon Watiastions) was to be lamed up with a go-
fer many year' with one who is now taken tram tee—st hissed scalawag Inquiry. He lig set know of say meatiest be