The Express.
London, England, 1856-10-11 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY Emu*: 'OCTOBER If, 1858;

warshoase wag, but I thick it was easswbers word*
town side of Chapaide, co the right hard side towards Ns
Robert Pea'. saasemen• It wag is sae of the warehouses.
there. I wads as ioquiry ter a situation as a wassonger at
that warehouse. I then saw the prisoner gad the perm of
whom I made inquiry for a situatioa. The prisoner bead
me ask for a situation. I was told that they did mot
know of sorbing that would suit see, and I
then left the warehouse. Shortly afterwards some
are called me, sad I looked round end saw the primmer,
who toned and beckoned tome, and I west up to him. He
asked me if I ever had charge of horses, and with whoa I
bad been living. I told hint I bad been living with Mr.
Burge Fortgaut. Ho then told me he ham a triad of
his who wanted a man u a asemengel, sad very likely I
should hear from him ; and be acrid as for my oddest*, and
I told him my same, sad where I lived is London. I told
him I bad ham • groom, and I bad bees is Use anise of
Lord Ebriogton and Mr Fortacue. A day or two aturwardsl
I received a letter at my lodgiaga. It caw on Tsanday
sealeg by post. Is coneequence of that letter I went
on Friday morales to a house la De Bermucdr-
tows, Hispilandoorid. A man, not the prisoner.
'mooed the dcor tome. I
.showed to him the letter I
bad brought. He took it from me, and kept it, and did
not return it. He looked stubs lame, and said,
" This is coacerniag my situstiou." He aid to me, " You
have been living with Mr. Pt rescue." I bad not said
anything to him before that about Mr. Fortagemt. Hs then
mad, a statement aa to what he muted me for, and as to
who he was. In consequemos of what them took plass I went
to see him again on the Saturday, and he seat me then to
the Bask of Ilegissul, to et change for • 201. note. The
not. produced I believe tote that note. It is dated 7th April,
1866, and numbusd 87,212. and has the nano of B. Ryley,
De Boauvoir-plaos, Kiagsland, upon it. It wee not written
in my pongee. Bs also told me to buy two 10-shilling
adhesive stamps. I changed the note for gold, end bought
the two stamps, sad took Wick the mousy and the Manta
to the house at Kiagsbutd. The person I saw at the house
at Bingsland told a to go and get some luasb, and
come back spin. I want back worth' gly, end that .nom
told me to take to Mean. Heywood and Co. the bill as
flood bete for 1,0001. I naiad it with the receipt ea the
book already 'Haan. I was demised at the beakers gad
west with the (Meer to Kingsland, but I have mot saw the
piston who gave me the bill since that time. About • fort-
night ago, I went down with the cMare to Yalmouth, mad
there I saw the primmer, and I plated him oat as the
arson who had spokes to me is tbs City about the Umta-
ta&

Crose-examieted by Mr. Lewis—l was told by Haggett,
the Aar, that I was gulag about the bill of nehmen to
Tunes*. He said ease people had been takes at Yar-
mouth, sad I sisetep with him to me if I maid identity
them. The oast Wok me to the stationthouse at Yar-
mouth to see thoriu'. I saw no poisons together. They
were in separate eons. I did not is. there the penes from
whom I received the bill. The penes from whom I re-
mined the bill woe • middle-aged UM, sad did not resemble
the primmer in my way. I never saw the primmer except
at the time I stationed, and at Yarmouth.
Beememlned by the Lord Mayor—l necopieed the
as., when I saw him is the all at Yarmouth as the person
whom I had seta is the city, sad to whom my evillest*
relate,.
Mn. Ann Sewell, wife of James Sewell, of 23, Riddles-
toit-etrest, York-road, Lunbeth, mid—" In June last the
whose Clemens. and hi. wife were lodging in my house.
I recollect the Saturday I. ttat mash, when Haggett
brought Olomouc* to my how*. On the Wednesday pre-
vious the prissier called at my house in the shernoce,
and Squired if we had a young man staying with r in
went of a 'Swaim. I said ye., Mr. Clemens. He is
sot at home, but I expect him shortly. When be
was going away I asked him* if he would be kind maga to
leave his same. He said it was of no compasses, he did
not himself ergot him, but a friend of hie, and Mr. Clements
should hear from him. Oa the Friday the letter came
addressed to Mr. Clemente. I went to Yarmouth aid lets
the gaol shore. I was shown into the yard when there
were two people walking shout, aid I immediately pointed
out the prisoner, who was one of them, as the person who
had milled at say home to inquire for Mr. Clemente.
Cram ezemined by Mr. Lewis—There was a purger taus
than the prisoner walking about the yard. I did sot go
Tito the yard at first, bat looked through aerating, and did
not reccguise him then. I wee sot told that tbs prisoner
we the person charged with this offence, but Ina left to
identify him myself.
The Lord Mayor—Ham you any doubt that the prisoner
is the person who called at your house to inquire for Cle-
mente?

Witness—l have no doubt of it.
Mn. Elizabeth Cole, of No. 8, Belehamp Villas, Bucking-
ham road, Kingsland, said—On Wedmeedsy, the 11th of
June, a man, who Mated ifs manse to be Hyley, same to my
home to hire a sitting room end bed room, and gave me
on &coast of a week's rest. He said that he would not
sleep in the hone till the Monday. He e -its for about an
hoar or two each of the two or three sumeding days. Oa
the Thursday I recollect that the witness Clemente came to
him, sad also on the Friday or Saturday. Oa the last day
Clemens* sailed twice, and after he went out the second
time, Ryley west out, but never returned to the bolus.
Cross examined by Mr. Lewis I w the prisoner
bolero this day. He Is not Ryley. Ido not remember
that ray one but Cleanses called upon Ryley. Clemens
did not stay long when he called. Perhaps it was 20 mi.
mutes or hall an hoar after Clemens* went oat that Alley
went away. The distance from our home to Lombard-
street is two mike and a quarter.
Mr. Jobs B. Peter said—l ant in the service of Mace.
Dufour and Co , of 19, Greshanpotrost, at the corner of
Wood-Mrest, Cheanside. I have seen the trisoner several
times at oar holm. We have known him as carrying on
business in Hobart Town, Australia. He was at our ware-
house oa Tuesday, the 10th of Jane, and paid over the sum
of money mentioned in the receipt produced, which is In my
handwriting.
Cron examined by Mr. Lewis—The prisoner did not set
as agent to oar firm in Australia. If he had sent for goods
we should have only trusted him. We have given him
credit to the amount of between 2001. and 3001., and the
money he paid that day was the balance of the aecouat be
owed to us. I ma not aware tint we have sent bin sazipll—i,
except when he wented them. It Fe very likely we may
have put some samples of lame and st•!ekinge in the
packages we have sent out Vi him. I think he regained os
to send oat samples of something he could do hansom with
is Australia.

Mr. R. A. Halley, clerk in the Amountatte Bank-note
office se,d—l produce a 20/. note, No. 37,212, dated 7th of
April, 1858, which was brought Into the Beak of Englund
on Saturday, the 14th of June laste in the nerve of R.
Ryley, De Bunvoir-place, Kingaland, and which I changed
for gold.
hi r. I. R. Longhorn, cashier to Messrs. Paget sad Co., of
St. Paul's Chiarchyard,beaken, sold—The 201. sots produced
was given out by me to gold to some person, who said he
applied from
t s Wheeler,
an stet:um:at
witte:upot the billineel of
Mr. Wheeler proud that be had not sent say person to
get the 201. nom for gold.
Mn. Meeks, of 20, Nelion.tquarr, Nackfrian-road, said
—la May last the prisoner and t is wife mote to lodge at my
hone. They hod three rooms. I was at tome when the
officer searched those rooms.

Craw szaisined by Mr. Lewis—TlN prisoner's wife con-
Cause to reside is asy Lou...
George Scott (the detective officer) said—Oa the 18th of
&relate 1 eeaschtd the room at the house No. 20, in
Nelson-,quere, and found the ri ceipt proelacA sad the
bill of 'aching* I produce toe 100 L, drawn from Mel-
boom.

Ili:imam—mat is my case, my lord.
Mr. Lewis asked whither there wee anything is the er:-
dines at all likely to tt uch his client, or whether Lis lord-
'tap thought it would be nececary for hin to make any
obtervetiots upca what had been stated ?
Mr. Mullen/ 'aid the eaidence was quite strong enough
to justify the rmareittal of the prisoner for trial, and be
commented upon the chain of circumstances, which be sub•
mined pat it beyond all doubt thut the primmer had hien a
;Medea' concocur in the affair, and had ezercised a great
dell of ingenuity for the purpose of evading detection.
Mr. Lewis replied, and eaki that no jury could lor a mo-
ment entettain the thought of convicting upon such state.
mean es had been made.

The Lord Mayor said he wu glad that there W.ll a num-
ber duns to which the power of the magistrate to a( t
judge •ad jury did not eztend. He c..nsidered that it was
els duty to send the present eau to a higher tribunal, and
be would do so without niskiog any comment likely to
est jut him to the imputati, n of pr. judgleg.
Th• pricer er was thin addressed is the accustomed form
by his lordship, and, baring said that he would levee hie
case in the bands of his solicitor, was committed be trial.
Henry Atwell. who Will cl!erged with hating, in cot junc-
tion with W. 8. Hsrdwlck, krged upon the house of Goa-
U•g end Co., the bakers, was then plated by his side at the
bar, sad they wire both committed Inv trial jot that amt.

beam *Mehl of the Uulba towards the
theettate peer of that path. Is impossible to davit*
the baressereg nem of wdstihodisr which were sesetastly
exhibited fit *Mat the ueekbease, resulting from the
eastimafte ethillegoties itt Wearable °liras, who applied
In vein On thri last ousaion when loaned
seeemeryteMtMfere, Would probably be le the rued-
Intim of the magistrate that the chairman of the bead of
guardians, isianewer to as upset resonstrucv frcm his
court, pledged himself to direst his immediate 'Wu
ties to the matter, sad pore • pediee Atentsose
that effectual mew we 14 be Moped te ob-
viate any future taus of tomplollth Hothithre
notwithetandlog the promised ensallerodes of the evils nee-
plained of, the same scandalous isettenten to the masa of
toe redeem poor *Weal isle& flaw, aid had Inc, if
passible, been canted to • peer sent then before. Os
the previous night. wide peoeseillog
.10 lth relines, the
attention of applies& vies :fibs equitel la the usual
throng of homeless maim mese ego sod both sue
huddled together lit MO et tier was weer ; sod not wish-
ing to subject kimult to the eestessellone treatment he had
always before reprised tikes to ensued to sake •
personal appeal on their beholf, be requested the constable
on the beat to hie 111111111 authority in order to procure
them a night's shelter. Oa mating the application the
omen wu admitted lat. the User yard, but remain I,
few manatee with a polite latimatthe, which was confirmed
by the nateketu, to the east that the water would be
happy to see applicant Wile. He accordingly accompanied
the porter, sad was ushered Into the courtyard, where he
found the muter, who awed him in the fees is as overbear-
leg sinner, and nsdelytheaseded his business. After telling
him he heebeen Window& et Mews rapist, he wu about
to Latitude for the welshed diets el his Weitz& whoa
he was interrepted by the mower. who poised to tit: gate,
lad addressed him in es haperione liss, with the theerva-
don, " There's the demos-got ant." g 'Misled that
the muter had celled Wm In the the impress purpose of
Malting his, he theliguartig esesesstratod with him upon
hie diegracilal easluth sod es esteem; to the street, ao•
mode, to his tourloble prestiss, be usdemook the tempo-
my team of the poor people, amersimisi to thirteen per-
sem. who bad bee refueelrelief, sad hesiehed them with
to provide themselves with a mealhetelit noel sad a
Ifetheill. 11 176, esesshimeted the state-1
mat of theseppileestaead oiled that. eletmegOe bed made
remoted applitationtee the guffaws, far the aditiesion of
W re pewees who bed bees Is the habit of remeising for
beers limey sight ist treat of the eselthesse, he bad scarcely
ever belt asmeafal, sad had sheet invariably been told
the if he Osumi thee in the way, it was his duty to get rid
of 411111 is the bet way he mei
lie. lesthill said that it was oertaiely a very lamentable
elate oftidelp, sad be pale* molested that Mr. Bur
• the flearillea of the heard of goardisime, on the coma-
aka Wen the het cytoplast was brought wider his node,
his empremly undertakes to us his best effete to order to
must its renneses; but as it appeared =West that no
alteration 'whatever bad taken plane, he should recommend
the applicaot to submit the whole of tho fasts to the pee-
law hosed, who wire ekes invested with sufficient powers
to deal with such as Intolerable grimaces.
The applicant expressed hie iatention to lose no time is
adopting the soggeetics of the magistrate, and left the
court with his friends.

Mr. Williams Inns Rubeon, el. person charged with
eatensith flalliNlS the Crystal Pine Company, and who
"sly arrived la lows by tee mad crate from Dover yesterday
mugs& wee into the court by Mr. Lund and Si,.ni attire felons' bar before Mr. Elliott
a very gentlessuly looking matof
oiuudl7ll::itilpseessoil very much dejected. He was
seellii dueled Assassination, and held • cambric handker-
&if to his fete, and eetinvoured to conceal his features
ben Ike game of lugeenowd of persons in the court.
Mr. Hawkins, the banflow. instructed by Mr. Pitob,
from the office of Mears. hbeetek, Farquhar, and Leech,
solicitors to the Crystal Passe Oimpeny, appeared for the
prosecution. Mr. Lane, solider, appeared on behalf of
the prisooter, to watch the pesseselinp ; and Mr. Mount,
the solicitor in bankraptcy, sesempanied by Mr. Duthie,
the mosesevr, sins &needed to wank the proondings.
Mr. Rawlins said he opposes' s, in part of the Crystal
Palace Company to pressed& MLeiedd state very thinly,
sad would prove equally se ellenly, the thee which wee to
be presented against the demi at its her. William James
Rothe.. Is the (intimation,. le wield merely state the
feast whisk had been °anginal by the yeleoser, and which
menshimately be investigated by another court. Tee
=l.:at the tar U soul wriseipel clerk in the
is Ndepartment of the Crystal Palace Company. It
was his duty se soot clerk to Viso charge of the book',
relating to the department, and to take charge also of •
somber of scrip certificate., the property of poring who
were owners of shares in the company, and who either for
the sake of ninniesa or safety left their scrip with the
Ifejfetal Palace Company. The printer wee appointed in
the 1868, and 'outlined to their Genies until the 19th
of sptsmsbar last, epos which day wrists ciecumstances
leseeptsed, when be striated himself, or rather absconds('
hem thermic" of the ettspeey, and bad not been heard of
will • few days ago, when he was apprehended at noising-
Ibre. Oa the 19th of September, matter having occurred
which raised the suspicious of Mr. Grove , the secretary to
Site rampsay, he, in sousequeece, had an interview with
the pima to his dies. It appeared that certain shares
bed got fa* the market, aid the secretary was punted how
Iffiefbed get titers. The prisoner said that there were
inedieritles was apparent, and if Mr. Faison would only
egeseepeny him to his private residence, Kilburn Priory, he
would clear up the difficulty, and put the matter straight et
Mee. Mr. Fawn accordingly atcompstied him there, and
baying arrived at the plies, the prisocer said be thought
it as well, nudar the circumstances, that they should hays
same lunch, and he left the room, apparently for the
purpose of ordering it. He n , however, returned,
but a note wait left, whisk would be produced, and he
bed sot been sees after that until a few den
ye The immediate dame to be preferred against
for prisoner was In reference to eight preferential stares of
the Crystal Palace Company, which were the property of a
MATiobert Rateetson, s gentlemen reiidieg near Leith.
non gentlemen bed allotted to him 50 or 61 prefenetiel
draw In the early pert of the present year. They were
eimebend from 199,449 to 199,600. Mr. Robertson had
snot taken these shares from the custody of the company,
but they had been left, with a variety of other shares, with
the erisoser, who bed charge of them, and in the month of
LIVE lest its prisoner made application to Mr. George
Obithest, • stockbroker, of Bank Chambers, Latithory, to
Mogen of for him some Crystal Palace stereo, and, amongst
ettery be heeded to him eight *nip stertificates which bad
bees Issued by the company, and which were numbered
trim 199,471 to 199,478, being eight of the shares which bed
besa allotted to Mr. Robertson and bed bees left In the
pelsomer's custody. Mr. Cleland was instructed to sell on
the part of the primmer, and Mr. Closeout did so, and the
erinaese, in order to complete the negotiation, !laded to
Mr. Clement a testesr that purported to be 'muted by
• Mr Arthur Julius Soon, a perms who, he believed, bed
existed at all. It was pretended by the ptit eon that
these shales wen the property of a gentlemen bearing
teat name, and the tritest. r was heeded to Mr. Clement to
couplet. the sale. Afterwards some icquirics were made,
and it tamed out that these shares were the property of Mr.
Robertson, entrusted for safe custody to the prisoner, and
fraudulently wades.* of by him.
Mr. Elliott—Do I undentend you that then shun are
tressferable
Mr. Hawkice—Not from bend to hand, but by deed, and
the owner has never esecuted the dead at all. The shales
wen allotted to Mr. Roberteon, and stood in his name es a
shareholder on the books of the company. lb. scrip men-
den were deposited is the custody of the prisoner in order
that he might take charge of them for Mr. Robertson until
be required them, and he bed no right whatever to pert
with them. He, however, did so with a fraudulent pro-
teins, and gave to Mr. Clement • forged transfer, in the
name of a person who sever existed. He would shortly
prove these feces.
Mr. Grove, the secretary to the Crystal Palen Company,
sald—le the year 1863 the prisoner, Willi ve James Rot-
as, was in the company's seterice, sod continued in it till
the 19th September last. Hs was chief clerk In the transfer
departesiV, and had the custody of the transfer-book, as
well as the registry of share.. The whole of that depart-
meat was under his charge. It was the practice of the
Crystal Palace Company to teke charge of certain scrip
certified*. belonging to shareholders who did not take
them away. Amongst other scrip certificates confided to
the care of the prisoner were certain shares belonging to
Mr. Robinson, but another isdivolual, Mr. Tenon, t.uld
speak more particularly to this matter, to being the regis-
trar. The last time he saw the printer was in the silica of
Mr. Passer, with whom be lett f r the purpose of explode
lag some irregularities with which he was Charged. That
was ea Wednesday, the 20th, and I have not soon him
dace 1111 thee day.
96. Les, the solicitor to the prisoner, ea; here asked if
be wined to pat any questions to the witness, and declined
doing s°.
Mr. George Fame said be was treasurer and registrar of
the Crystal Pelee. Company. Mr. Robert Robertson was
owner of 61 preferential thares in the Crystal Palen OM-
piny, numbered from 199,499 to 199,600 inclusive. They
were Aare' for which scrip certificate. had been
issued. On the 19th of September within was
proses* with Mr. Grove when some clng. yes made
against the prisoner of irregularities in the course of his duty.
Oa that theasies intone accompanied prisoner to his private
lenience for the pup'se of having that a Irregularities es.
plained. Prisoner left the room as though for the mien
of collecting materials fir the explasation which he hid
volunteered to give. Then Iv,. some huschno pr. pared in
the parlour. Winne did not see him after rare. till that
dn. Withw remained at Kilburn from • half to three
quarters of an hour. Before wines. left • nolo was handed
to bin, se follows :

" My dear Fasson,—l moat hay* a day to made my
mitten. I must see Itemmington. Don't be under any
alarm. All thirga ars gaits arrest, but I am in a little
emission. Illy property is over 30,0001., but I admit that I
baye don* wrong as far as Ileramaogton is commented. Ds
applied to me for money. ',could not spare it, and I lent
►tm abarm that ware in my keeping, ander promise that
be would keep them soder lock sad key, and ibis, through
lan error, ke did not do, sad the courigercces Sr. what you
know. I bat, now gems down to the City. My groom
will follow with you. Pray don't be coder any alarm, for
all will be aorrect.—Tonsa faithfully,
"W. 'Axis Amami."

"P.B. The shins I I.t ftesmiesten are safe is the
esetody of the penes who lest the nosey."
Mame west is Ile City ismseilately, to the oftia of

the solicitor to the common but he did mot em this penoner
ag•ia uut4 that day.
Mr. George Clement, stockbroker, of Bork-ek•mben, said
that iss the "tooth of August lest be had iostructioas from
this prisms, to mil some Crystal Palms shares—preferesos
flans. AUG. pi ono, oertifiestio of shares were eight
membered from 199,471 to 199,478. The Unseen were
hooded at the same time with the certificates. The MIMS
wove delivered to •rother broker, who sold Men, aid the
meet' was headed to Mr. Bohm, or his order.
Barest Coppin deposed that he took Marge of the pri-
mmer ea Toad• last st Copeabageo, and brought bin to
this emany. Be was paving then under the name of
Bdward Smith.

Mr. Elliott—Did be say say thing to you ?
Coppice—Os seeing him, sir, I said, " Mr. Hobson, I am
arms about this affair from the Crystal Palace Company."
Mu said, " Vary well, I know I have done wrong, and I
must suffer the law." I said, " Haw* you any objection
to seeempany me to London ?" He said, "No ; I shall be
glad to doss" I then mid, "Are you prepared to go beak
with me ?" and he said, ." TM ; I'll do so." Ice retinae'
to his property, I salted him what money be had, and be
produced his purse, wh.oh contained 36 Danish dollars and
Inbar smaller coins, ago d watch and chain, and in his box
was a quantity of silver forks and spoons, a diamond ring
and studs, with his passport book, and pasqport in the nose
of Edward Smith. The signature to the passport, "Edward
Smith," was sworn to as being in the prisoner's hand-
writing. Coppice added to his testimony that the sister of
the prisoner was with him at Copenhagen, and paused under
tie name of Aguas Smith. She returned to London with
them.

Mr. John Land, euperiateadent of the P division of
police, said that be had the matter wanted with this cue
in bead since the prisoner bed absented himself, and en hie
being brought into the station-hones on that morning
by Colvin, he said, " Robson, this is a bad job.
To which ha replied, " Yes, it is. I am misera-
bly guilty, and will make all the reparation I can
before I go. I hops they will not confine me for life in
solitary imprisoarnent. I do not mind being transported,
for I deserve it. I carried a ring about me with pronto
said in it for the last three maths, and I intended to destroy
myself with it, hat somethiag came across my mind aa
though it was from the Almighty, end the reason I did not
do it wee for fear of making my poor wife's latter days
miserable, and I threw the ring into the sea." He then
went on to state about his property, which he should give
over to the Crystal Palace Dempsey, and gave the names of
several persoas who were iudebted or him is large sums, for
money lent, and two of them were for 1,0001. each.
Mr. Hawkins here said test this was all the evidence be '
Intended to produce; upon which
Mr. Elliott remarked that the ease was in a very imperfect
date, inasmuch as to legal evideuee of the transfer of the
shares had been produced, and therefore it must Blend over
to a fathom day.
Mr. Mount, the solicitor to the Bankruptcy Court, here
mid that Robson bad been aejudicated a bankrupt, and he
requested that the property produced by Sergeant Ccppin
mien be delivered up to the messenger of the Bankruptcy
Court.

Mr. Elliott declined malting any order on the subject, and
Coppia retained possession of the property.
Mr. Elliott (to the {visoner)—Yon have heard the nature
of the charge ugliest you—namely, stealing sight preferen-
tial shares belonging to the Crystal Palace Company. You
are not bound to ssy anything to that charge; but. U yea
wish to say anything, I am bound to hear you.
Prisoner (os a faint voice)—l have nothing to my.
Mr. Elliott—Then you are remanded until Monday neat.
The prisoner wee thee removed from the bar.