The Express.
London, England, 1851-04-09 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 9, 1851

steamer, and officer commanding the British forces; and
also from Sir Raja Brooke, of Sarawak, rispecting their
military operations against alleged pirates on the river Mo.
ratalias, and other places in the eastern Archipelago, in
March and April. 1849.
Mr. LABOUC HERE suggested that an alteration should
be made in the words of the motion. His lion. friend
called Sir James Brooke Sir Raja Brooke. That was an
assumption of title by his hon. friend that he thought he
had no right to make. (Laughter.)
The muti.•n was altered ae,m:iiittly. and then arced to.
VICTUALLING THE NAVY.

with regard to linen,
it might be remembered that some f ing chases, said that the melded which he was about i might be much improved was, by getting old houses olii
time ago, upon the moeien of the noble member for Bath Ito bring tender the consideration of the house wits adapting them to better purposes. The profits arising
(Lord Ashley), a commission
was appointed to inquire into I now so familiar to the minds of honourable members, , from that mode of proceeding were very large indeed. In
the best mode of subdividing
poi:uloui parishes for ceeloi.ts- that it would not be necessaryeesary for hhn to enter anon I the ease of mane houses winch had been thus adapted, no
tical purposes. The commissioner-, were the Archbishop of , those minute details, which it inig:d hale been necessary to i lees then 12 per cent. had Ire. realised. There was one
Sir E. Buxton, the :go into some twenty year. ago. As the subject, however, Ihourwhich effurdedo un illuaration of the : st•thitant
York, the Bishop of Lembet, Lord A 5 ley,
Rer.Drs Hook and Dale, the Re, Mr. etuunpneve, and Mr. I era: one of such vithl im;arrtance to I:tree elaeses of the , imotit obtained by some landlords. On a small 'muse, wenn
..
Robert Seeley, and [Levy stated in their re
;tort that the pre- . commenity, he hoped the house would indulge him with its , which a small sum of money had been exp. mied to melee
defective, and • attention whilst he laid before them what he considered to it Cenn and docent, the net profits cause to 30 tee Legit ;
sere law of church rates was at once vague,
Isardehips I notice. (Hear, hear.) Ile wished to 6. t before the houso I which not a tithe of the amount laid out in this co e• had
unjust, and that it had been rcPreaclatcd to tr.: i'm that the' lie eutlicient to vindicate the motion of which he had riven anti he was convinced that in many lodging h0w..., open
Ile must j the experience of himself and other, as to the ghee of morel ' been; xpended, the profits were coneidereley more. t,litar,
law as it at present stsed indicted eery feriou6
'won 1 mud physical suffering, evil, and sin, in which a large pore • li ea. There were many ways in which the worst lee.t.liti, 1
'upon the owners of properly in certain parishes.
, tints el' use population existed, and to suggest the means by sigh: be improved. The removal of a single hon..' At the
sly he considered that the laying of the church rate
disecuters, tf it were not an act el' perecutien, was at - all
i e great deal to relieve the evils that oppressed them. neighbourhood. Let teem also encourage the f damt;ett of
, which, without trenching on any principle, they might do cud of a cul de sac might benefit the health of ail in the
event. an act in the notture of persecution.
would first call the attention of the house to the roudi- association., mad with that view let them diminish the ,x-
Lord d. RUSSELL said he would not follow the hen.
pf that pert of the poptilatims whom he might divide peme of obtaining a eharer, wineh now amounted to lone
gentlemen through the arguments which they had advanced, ; He
statemary and migratory poor. Nl'lLat then was the I,ooof. (Hear, hear.) In the ease of the 31stropelitea e
though he might dater from some of the conclusions to tint
the stutionaropulation, by which its meant 1 eociation the retell n was limited by the charter te 1 p,7 coat.
wilitil they had arrived. It seemed to hint, from the state- • Into the
nut live in out lodging. house ou eue nieht, iuterea for eeery invesetment. Ile doubted the a etietti of
mune they had heard, (rant the report of the commissiouers 1 ecnidition o:
n the followieg night, but these who heed I that limitation. Builders gin, rally were not satiate.: a e
to which reference had Iteen made, and from the eireune- 1 those who din
, !es, than 7 ix: cent., de 0'.../ ing that the hater : . te , / i, :t
1 staace so well latown, of tile variety of practice winch pre- and in another t.
Stetisthal Society- which had nettle au th. y were exposed releuired a return of that ins, ' I veiled in different parilv,. that it was desireble that sumo ,far same time in t:te same house. lie held in its, hand a
attempt should be mad: to se ale this question of church • return of 1817 of the
' rates. (Hear, hear.) (Jr. at least, if they user: not aide to ' examination into the condition of 1,464 families iu St. must in/ borne in tuba that in elticting the,: Mier- •. / •..
do that, that some improvement of the hew in that reseset George's, Hanover-square. These /,463 fandhee had fur they must destroy quite as into it ustisey built.l :P c,
should be introduced. Holdiug this opinion, and believ.ng their resident/es '2,117 looms. is ow of these fans:hes lee i had 1 which he had described lust be swept ave..y I, ! ~, •
..,
that the question was one on which in:carnation might ad- / best out room in which the whole fulfill lived , All had th 0 new lotlering-lieuses could eel gr• all the g,,,d is., e „.
eantageowely be given, he really theught that tine prepoohil rooms ;97 hail 3; 17 hod I; ti had r/.: had is ; I had 7 ; and , capable of effecting. The whole etistjete was es. i,,,. ,
of a committee would lead to great pr.st.tical good, and he : I had 8. If such was the condition of the !input:rem in one I deepest Mien st its all parts of the cieilist/d wethe
should certainly give his consent to it. (Hear, hear.) lof the best portions of Loudon, what must lie the cendiLiou , ewiety had reeeiv.,a letters front all mate ..r E 5....,.... ...:
' Mr. ACME wished to ask the noble lord whether he lof the overpopulated portions in the seed of Leashes, ouch from the United States a :1,13..riee, tisk ine feo le_ . . ;
would include iu the inquiry the rates lesied iu Scull ''ink las Whiteclespelaud bhoreditch ? This return eaid nothing , iulormation. Until the dmoieiliAry conSition of to , •
Lord J. ILCSSELL replield that, as regarded ministers * of thee-edition or resit!, sees uf the a orkiag tqa.114.46. There j was Chrietianieed, there s. etid be lei !wine lir ....
money, it was theinable that eomething :amulet be dime; were caws hi which not one family, but lOW families mid , moral imprevemeut. l'iie present ante us thin.. , / . .1
but, us regarded church annuity, he feared it would be ire- even five families occupied ohe sitting name—onv in each of I thousands of °Tisane, and he was convinced Os. iS .. .. .
possible to satisfactorily deal with it. the four centers and one its the middle. Physically nothing altered there would soon Ise a large reduction in I • ~ ;
Sir R. 11. INGLIS expresses' his surprise that, her could be worse than such a state uf thinge, but tin' morel , rates. In the melts' buildiee ereeted by the _see, : ~,s, , /
1
31ajestv's ministers should have acceded to the proposition evil which was generated by it was still woes:. (11,•ar, St. reiterate there sore, just beforethe del, re es ..: el.,
of the lion.usenther for Tevistock. lion. gilldelllt 11 belnYltl.l to hear.) In these houses, and iu one eingle room of taiga, five hundred person, tieing under one tot; in .. •.i. IA
forget that houses and property were sold and purchased grown-up matte, and females of ditfers•nt families nil of :seat in Ilisleeterete-scree:, called " Pt a sit n-........'•
sub eel to this rate; so that in that rise then: could be no the sense family were living together. (Mar, hear.) there resided rat the series period slit hliitll/11 a:,! ;.sty
griftVaatt or cause of temptable •fhe hon. member fur All the [m1,110131 of stature were perforated in it, persons. In the former there to, /stirred itte L
Manchester (Mr. Bright) had stated a case, on the occasion so that it was utterly inereeeible for any deveney to exist, single desalt from cholera ; in the late r tt/ err ... r.•
of the pupal egereseiou debate, in which he represented the any el:minium, to pre veil, or any tleeire of selueatiou to , :teethe, and, two td the past I/ sle leg heals of faeltlice tot
meeting house of the Frlende Society in a Le/rents parish in grow up. (Hear, hear.) Wait it to be a undered at that in one day 12 orphan, were taroon Lyon tie. 1:.:::-i.. 'I :,0
Lentlea as having Keo entered, and chairs and tables to these receptacles nine-tentls of the great crimes retell as number of widow., widow, rr, and iirpliam, e.r...g1 Isv the,
the number of 40 carried off, as a /eerie,. for church rate% burglaries and highway reArrioe, winds were a terror to cholera in PI union teas 2.:5:;, wan thus b saute 1,. na4-
the Society of Friends objecting on principle to the phyosent society, were conceived and it:etched ? (Rear, hear.) lit a wetly char:bales to the lan Ili illlt it mud be r nwitilo, r,l
of that rate. Now, the parish where the hon. gentleman sanitary point of view, a list meet be the vonditien of those that what cholera did euthlee'y ase ote :sly !'-err we, WWI
rep:seemed that seizure as having tweurred, wee Bithoe -de elites:, in whielt eight and nine and ;,n, andt'..•.l ;It conetently and eeeretly. (pleat.) 'They ' 'iheel n. ,er fairly
gate, the tithe* in which formerly amount ato 2s. 9th. in the some e.,is 1.0 many at 20 anti 2.1 persons were living altos tested either the will or the capacity sit' the working clue..:..
pound, producing a return of betwet it :Vela. and 0.0001. gether ? Ile would take the repent of the Louden/ Feser Blear.) Owing to a variety of tati:,l. thy had h. sit III.A•t•li
However, the (net was, that by Lin act paseel in 182:4 the Hospital, and compare the clove allowed there for OW in a position a bids was 1.7 y th,ad‘anta.:eous ter the
tithes were extiaguished tar ever, and a ..,.t..,.t of compromise patients with the space allowed in one of these oar- enema.. of their eiscrait • ; but he ~..w no r../. at why they
s altered into, by ',llk's 2,5U.1t. Was to lie paid sithjeet to eels crowded lodging remise. Thie reettt t stated that hi /spew , should nut in physical prosperity eve,' or even ...se...
fain reductions. Now, tile hon. member for Manchester and sometime., 00 ur 100, were ledge," in a room ;S'lfes t their bretlir. n of the I. int.(' States. (li. er, ... er
should have known the fact, as saddi, that it was uplon the 9 sari -s loam, 2: i5....t. wide, and t 1, 011 hleht-s high ; that use ueide lord coneluir...l by niov:ent far her: t• h: .....: /
divellinaphowse titre:hell to the me:thaw-house, and rot win- , I say in a mint whieli did nut ededt of a lure,: bulk bill to ea:ver/me Lae conetructiets ut lotigiegsettue ,le
the meeting-house itself that the distress was made, of air that was allowed for three patients he the t'ever kilos- working ehteees,
lie r, gutted the noble lord, the fsr't ntiuister of the pita'. (blear, hear.) The report went on, and stated this Lord l'. ILIMILTON swan led the motile.
ernWll, had thought fit to yield to the melon of the rentarkuble fact, taut met-lieth part of the whole :ramie:: of Mr. SL.ele EY said 'hero a 'r.' thouoande of ye
honourable gentleman, the member fer Tavielock. In perhtne Who were admitted into the fever hoepiede came over the country who were enxieus to unite •
his (Sir It. 11. Inglie's) opinion he should have resisted (ruin thew over-crowele.l Molds, old that they had no less us: of eotal•li..liing model lodging-lam ...., ...
it. 11., only gnaw," on uhich the acceding to this than 130 patients aifect:d with fever :emu that one teen hired from theug se lost they seoaid teem
proposition was justified was the uncertainty of the few. ode. e. (lltt.ar, hear.) 'f he experience of the Benet of within the law of parnierehip, awl bee lulu hob
But would the hon. and keened Attonwy-Genend or Beelth confirmed this state of things, and it was rowel, when whole amount of their fortunes. That eeeteele 1,,
Solicitor-General say that the law was uncertain ? Why, they, xamMed into the cause, thet it arose Penn the ems enotie usent ought :o be' removed. The is. ,sitit of the
Ti., I:1W was better oh tined or established than that under number of tiers/me who were ersw/led into a small spier. man ass leis property. Let tins noneit e; .•r it
which the church rate was levied. If the law were Duthie the cholera period there woe an Metes-tee of a watched over the property of esery other class in t:
duebtful, then be would say, introduce at once a ch tritable institution where the innestes were well fed, tom, and they Woidd Is. r. said with gretioule.
measure to remedy the defect. Ilut the highest legal kept warm, and well elotked, but who rs., notwitiheending, Mr. HUM E hail listeu, d with gr.-at attention
unthoritiee had derided that the hew was not d suhtful : and the mortality wee great, in coneequeuce of their being livid statement of the a dile lord, and must cosh ,/, in
therefore there could be no excaeo fier tweediue to the coat- in ill ventilated and connat.' apartments. Me WOlll I not ou;het all to take :maul: to eh eneeivie, for it,
mine.. on that ground. (Hear, hear.) With these Omer- go into any further detail, respecting the stall:teary pool- (Hear.) A foreiener would hardly belesee the:
I
vatione, and hoping that the government would take eau nation, but he thought he had statedeutticietit for a sample .cues existed in this country as had brew des. riltethat a committee predetermined should not be forme'. he uf what any lam, gentieman might meet with with, it he noble lord. Re (Mr. Hanle) leered they No : :',' IPo
would sit down, nut eonsentine to nor opposing the motion only took a walk sum the crowded parts uf the metropolis. (hear, hear)—and he time lit the wife, lord ,is •re
of the lion. member for 'review/2k. (Ilear, hear.) With regard to the migratory populatiesteiti• was the state- thanks of the house fur having hroneht tic.:
Mr. 111t1011 r »aid that hall he kusean it was the inten- meat which was ma le les one of the comusiseimit rs : too prominently under public notice. On the se
titan id' the hon. baronet (Sir R. ii. Inglis) to n•fv, to the as, my Metrict is a tousehomeining eight home, what, are ell let thought tit ismatter for government iutseteremee, :lit
statenteut wade by him (Mr. Bright) on a previous (left- orssuateiy to indithluah, ithe their-Li ant hart them. The parlour that it would not be permittea to fall to the ground.
nen/some taste by.teft.
,fissts am errauge? ono:ie.:Ai side.,f,r.ntort
~,.
, Sir G. GREY mill he wise ,arse the hone a nu!-.l e Iliittgly
Rion, he would be prepared to enter lilts the more peer' es
details of that particular [UV'. However, he should ,Beloit' T.
,r;,,,L.Lu, 4,,,,,,,...07:.:740L, „,... e.neeee ‘7,,7,:ji .!,,,,dn.,-4 assent to the introsluctitei of his noble Hi, ed's bill, treating
altogether the view of the hon. baronet, that he had to .'
este two er three dogootteittrg h ss hawon torso boot:sem the as it slid of a subject intintetely etaineet..d m ith the aII ,r,:
right to bring Smear/ that caw in a discussion on another emit:mut:U.4 aim, slalom ist o claws row', to the top real of the of the great mote, of the pi °pie. Ile fully age. eel with !ea
/subject. He ths,ught ha had a perfect right, inasmuch eu-ue non-c, nwesenne tilt. ey Ist!.. theme .re sit cede,
as whilst they were diecussing the aggression of donee night, there swot M in em ..12 human heinge, an ..1, on the noble friend that the system prevailing iu the nu ist
breathing the
poiis—of crowding the working classes, into 'wall r.,-
one sheath it might be as well to call attention to the sig- rs'Ustetrert .":ad;tl'll.„4 i!'hit rtLsiTZseinise Iti.beasr,iiiirce
~`„. ''rer. Teniilatt4l and ill-construchel Louses— wets deqrweis,• a!i...,5
greseione of another. (Hear, hear.) The 1 . bare net ise. hetwicu them ; sod they who , brep fa the be I. tainted hem the of their our and phyoioal cystitis:lm. With reg., Ito tie
had stated that thew chairs were not taken from the twee- dor con, cone,,,,eney, etay get arm them by csonlaa,c mer the brie hill itself the hour, insist sue c, sl I it, opinion este. the
tag-house, hut from the premises. 13tat that made no dif- leeeh are nearer the 'lnc. In stun district :,lone true are 1.7,0 ouch details came rtirlv berme it. Ile snide ra eel thet it aas
ference whatever, a Weber tukeu from the place of worship Noma.
- __ perfectly tennis/Ay in its charuster, and to Is/ Irene,: on
.. . . . Ile was entry to say that this state of thiege was not con- the moth,: of the Baths and Washhiluaw Dill, veal -• • -

Colonel CIIATTLRTON asked the k'irst Lord of the
Admiralty what portion of the sum of .12J.C.01. voted for
victualling the navy for 1850-I was paid to English, Irish,
and foreign houses ; and whether he intended that the
supply of provisions required for the Iletish nary for the
years 1851-2. should he open to foreign competition.
Sir F. T. BARING said the quantity of Aalteil meat for
the navy in the last year was 31,178 cot. Gftius none
was English cured, 18,83:: cwt. was Irish cured, and
15,848 cwt. was curd i.t foreign countries, With regard
to the last part of the gallant officer's question, he should
make no alteration from the course pursued in the last four
or five years.
TILE CLAIM OF T:IE EAST INDIA COMPANY.
Mr. BANKES asked the Secretary of the Board of Con-
trol at what period the claim of the East India Company,
of the sum of 4,0,0001., was made on the British treasury ?
Mr. WILSON said he wishsel the hon. gentleman would
give him notice of the questioa. Ile would make inquiry,
and should he happy to answer the 9tic•tion to-morrow.
The CIIANCLLI.OIt of the EICHF.LICEIt said it
was arranged that the expenses of the Chinese expedition
should he th•frayed in the first instance by the East India
Company, and that rei.ayment should be made by this
country. We had already paid to the amount of three mil-
lions, hat there were certain claims, the whole amount of
which had not been wholly paid, and which were sent in a
few days ago. The amount was 100.000'. A minute in-
vestigation would he made. and on that investigation the
result would depend. It was the final settlement of a long
tranasetioa.

NEW ZEALAND.
Mr. ADDERLEY wished to ask a question of the rn.ler
Secretary for the Colonies, whether the government
intended to iutroduce any measure this st's don providing a
representatiee constitution for New Zealand on the ap-
proaching expiration of the sit:Trailing act? Also whether
all further correspondence and papers which had been re-
ceived on the subject since the last presented would be
speedily laid before the house ?
Mr. HAWES said that he was not then in a position to
answer the first gut et- of the hon. gentleman ; but if he
would renew it at a later period of the session, he should
perhaps be able to state the intentions of the government.
Ile hoped that the papers to which reference had been made
would ere long be laid before the house.
THE TURKISH AND PERSIAN BOUNDARY.
In answer to questions by Mr. UttlirtrOar,
Lord PALMLIISTON said that he could not lay certain
accounts for which he had beat asked to fore the house, but
that if Mr. Urquhart would explain vs him in private the
nature of the information he required he would furuish him
with every thing he wanted. `Pith regard to the settle-
ment of the trustier between Turkey and Persia,
there had been much litigation for several year.,
and a treaty bud been come to by which a cer-
tain line of boundary described in the treaty had been
agreed to, certain places being given up on one side and on
the other. Commissioners hail been appointed by the
British, Russian, Turkish, and Persian governments, but
their elforte had la en impeded by the conduct of the two
Malionnuedan goys rnmeuts, both of which insisted very
pirtinatiously, and often very wrongly, ou their supposed
rights ; but he (the noble lied) was happy to say that an ar-
rangement was very to be made watch would settle the
main question, anl leave only the local matters to he decidill
I.y the commis.iouer.. Wiih respect to the report upon
which Mr. Urquhart hail leased one of hisquestions, he (the
noble lord) had to state that it was entirely unfoundell. It
most probably had arisen front the wish of the Russian go-
vernment to maintain a number of hostile buililints on their
frontier. As to the loan to 'furkey, nothing could be farther
from the intentions of the 110 itish government thou to have
anything to du with a fiirc ion man. (Liogliter.) There
hail certainly been a proposition submitted to various pri-
taw persons, but the goverumeut would hove nothing to do
with it. (Cheers.)
THE ADULTERATION 01' COFFEE.
Mr. T. DARING begged to ask the Chancellor of the
Exchequer whether he proposed to withdraw or make any
change iu the Treasury minute of the 31st of August, DORI,

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eteellent, but 1w Mt that they vault( hardy a..
measure of this kind t-s reined.: all the es al. Ili, noble
friend load how. S 1 r most alli,
which was by encouraging dews anal removing all
the legal °lido/lea that em-teal is the way of their tonna-
thou. llis loan. ail helthid ham, also land deseost murk
attention to tloi sailnect, load Imo .1 liar cotailanta .•
ys•ar, And another Cais, and inapairia s w. r. .... 1 Elio
subject of th.• a so- use of chui-t, rs was
sideratien of gam-annum. fie hoped that ',hue
would be suggest t realm, the /160 11.42 of olnaiu-
nig these chute rs. (Hear.) Ile emild lesure lais kon. friend.
(Mr. Hume) that the fitting time a one the zoverti-
meat wont,' not he wanting in exert:en tO promote :Ito
education of the poop!:. !last at was not a.tcc ad to go., :la-
ment but to voluntary associations they mast hie silo
education of the ..uid the band thing parhainciat
could do would he to re aaosa, all obstacb, so .I.s way, with-
out taking it out of the banal. of pria,ate India duals. Ito
Wireat d, however, imeess to the exertions of his nolalo
friend, and trusted that the notoriety Aims to the facts by
his statement would couceutrate pulnie attention on tho
subjeet.
Mr. STANFOR It was of opitihm tied the ca... wan out
far government lass- Prune oilier.. nee :at his own
ansh he could testi,y to the solemn:age of mob. i Is laing-
houses.. Ile thrar;lt. that the creetio, of a sale in each ..5 the
parishes 01 the metropolis would be M great tublic ad-
vantage.
Mr. W. J. FOR wished to say ease word as te the jrin-
civic of direct legislation sass this mutt. r. I lure
seem two circum-tanca s which form.--1 the
siisiieul-
ties in dealing with this aptcstion. One was, that ties
working man nal limited in the choice of hi. abink, and
must live within a certain distance Iron his factory.
Another reatrill WON that fuming these se ree•la. al ionises
wasa most profitable investment. !knee it seas that it
would 1.. most difficult t rieuove the working ULM from
these fever factories, as they were properly cal,. •1, without
direct I.gislativo inferferente. (Hear, hear.) Lea ry im-
provement, every Lew and splendid street in tier no tropoli.,
had only driven the poor within a narrower comp:a-, and
without some aid Iron pariiament lac feared that tit: pear
would be lett romp': tely in the hands of speculators. lie
rejoiced, therefore, that the subject had heel' brougiat under
the notice of the house.
Lord C. 11.1311 LT ON agreed with the Seem tary i ar tho
Dome Department, that legislative interfa realise Is.. out thu
way to west the (nn!. The only thing tb, y coarhl do was to
remove all obstacles in the way of procurng the la. easesary
charters, lie might mmtitm that the chartvr of Cee build-
ing association Wan which he was connected hail cud up-
wards of 1,2001. (litar, hear.)
Mr. LALSOCCII.EItIi admitted the truth of the noble
lord's statement as to the expense, but believed that, in the
Cane alluded to, there Were esnlle peculiar circumstances.
lie admitted, however, that the expels ses in eta:doing
charters were much greater than they ought to he. has
attention had been given to the subject, mot he lout opened
commuuicatious with the Treasury,tlinnigh which he
soon to etfect coniiala relate reiluetimas in this exj..-aoes.
(Hear, hear.) Its. trusted that all unnecessary obstacle, to
these Undertakings would he spesialilv removed.
Leave was then given to bring in the hill.
DI snuiss IN IItELAND.
Sir 11. W. BARRON, in bringing under the con,idera-
lion of the house the motion of -which lie had gives notice,
said that the condition of Ireland at the prestut moment was
well worthy the conuniseration of the house. Ilia ohject
was to compare the condition of Ireland in '45, with what it
Was at the present time. Ile took Wei for his first date,
because it was s:nce that time that the three causes had
sprung up which haul reduced Ireland to her pros. at pros-
trate condition. The first of these causes was the faunae.,
the second, the ulteration in the corn laws, and the third,
the disastrous poor law. To commence with the poor law,
he found that us 1515 the poor law taxation in Irclattal
amounted to 310,000/., while in 1550, secevading to the call•
cial returns, it was 1,471,00 M, lieiag an increase of
1,261,0001. The se:era:tory for Ireland boosted of a reduction
of 90,000 in the number of paupers, but thu fact was that
that reduction had been obtained by the tuloptiou of tha
workhouse: test, and wawa° indication sal returning prosperity.
In one union in the west of Ireland they had 17; Mal V"'
pers. The workhouse test was offered, and in six weAs
400 had accepted it. As a proof, however, ad the inereuing
distress iu that unfortunate country, he quoted the anunlars
in the Waterford union workhouse. ILere were on the
let of February, 1850, 2,510 inmates, and on the In of
February, 1651, ; and in Kilkenny they were sat
those dates, respectively, 20841 and 4,120. Pauperism then
was on the increase. Concomitant with this there W:.4
an increase of taxation for poor rate and county
case. Then what was the state of agriculture ? lie tun

sanctioning the ndidteration of coffee?
The CHANCELLOR of the ExenrArEn said it was
not his intention to alter the Treasury minute, or the prac-
tice of the Excise with respect to the mixture of chicory
with coffee.
THE MURDER OF COL MILLS.
Mr. COWPER wished to ask the Secretary of the Hoard
of Control if he had received any intelligence rsspeadiug the
murder of a British officer in Arabia ?
Mr. WILSON supposed the hon. gentleman alluded to
the murder ..f• Colon, Miff.; lint the government hail re-
ceived no intimation of the occurrence hot such as bad up-
reared iu the public prints. lie dared say that the next
mail would bring ..111e official inteilig. arc on the subject.
RELIOIOUS HOUSES BILL.
Mr. KEOfili wished to ask the hon. member for Thalmin
if he intended to take the second reading of the Religious
Houses Bill on Wednesday?
Mr. LACY agreed to postpone his motion till after
Easter but intimated his intention to mote the second
reading at the earliest possible opportunity.
CIVIL PROCESSES (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. SADLEIII moved for • return giving, in tabular
form, the number of original civil bill ejectment pro-
cesses entered, and the number of copies served, in the
years 181.1, 1816, 1417, 1818, 1819, and IMO, in and for
the counties of Clare, Cavan, Cork, West Riding, and
Longfonl, respectively; similar return of the number of
such processes heard and chided upon ; similar return of
the number of civil bill processes for redemption. of copies
served, and of such processes entered. heard, and derided;
similar returns in replevin cases, and in legacy or dis-
tributive share of assets cases; and, similar return of all
other original civil bills, and of the number of copies
served, and the number of such ca ae entered, and the
number of such cases heard and decided; such returns to
distinguish the number of cases in which civil bills were
merely booed and served, from those cases in which the
civil gill was entered, and a decree or dismiss was had; and
also, to exhibit the average number of copies served in each
class of civil bill more's. The hon. gentleman then asked
whether it was the intention of the right hon. gentleman
opposite to proceed with the bill.
Sir J. ROMILLY said he had taken charge of the bill in
the absence of his hon. friend the Attorney-lieneral of Ire-
land ; and he believed that it was Ow intention to proceed
with the bill.
ORDERS OF THF. PAY.
Lord JOIIN RUSSELL MOIRA that on Thursday the lot
of May next, and every alternate Thursday fullowing,ordem
of the day have precedence of noires of motions. Last
year this motive was agreed to from the I lth of April, and
he did not suppose there would be any objection to it on
the present occasion, its motive being merely to further the
public busiuess of the house. (Cheers.)
Agreed to.
THE EASTER RECESS.
In answer to a question by Mr. H. 11AI LLIE.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he did toil find that there
was any order of the day standing for Wednesday the if th
instant, and he should therefore, on Tuesday the 15th,
move that the house he adjourned until Monday the 2th.
CHURCH RATES.
Mr. TRELAWNY moved for a select committee to con-
sider the law of church-rates, and the difference of practical
which existed in various parts of the country in the assess-
ment and levying of such rates, and to report their &sierra.
tions to the house. The hon. member supported his motion
by a multitude of facts, showing the eccentricities existing'
in the lees. and the injustice occasioned by the pressure of
the church-rate. The most eminent statesmen on both sides
of the house had concurred in the opinion that churcli-rates
were an impost which ought to be discontinued. Lord Stanley-
had denounce them as a serious and substantial grievance;
Lord Ahhorp bad proposed to substitute for them a system
of pew-rents ; Sir Robert Peel had recommended that the
charge should he transferred to the consolidated fund. By
others it had been considered that the charge might very
fairly he placed upon the revenues of the church herself,
quite as much interested, it might he supposed, in the mainte-
nance of her places of worship as in the elaborate decoration
of episcopal palaces. The law of church-rates rested upon
the two Braintree eases, from which it appeared to be esta-
blished that, at all events in certain cases, the minority of
the ratepayers might make a rate upon the majority. In the
church of Ireland they had gin rid of several bishoprics
and had alsilistad church-rates, making the repairs of the
churches a charge on all ecclesiastical benefices. That was
a precedent for what he pronosed. There was a difference
between tithes and church-rates, 'for the former was a
tax on laud, the latter was a personal tax. In the United
States of America, in the episcopal church, the buildings
were well supported without any church-rates. He had in-
deed a stronger reason for bringing on this subject, because
- evil, there being ow church-
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or from any of the committee-moos adjoining, the crime of
sacrilege not being regarded by the ciagregation of Frienola.
lionsever, he asked the hon. baronet if he could look on the
qu..stion from any other point of view than that in which
it was usual for kin to regard it; and to say whether such
a state of things should be tolerated ? (Hear, hear.) On
one side of the street there was a large church frequented
by a cosign gation of the church of England persuasions,
and on the other side of the street there was a
lame of worship built by the voluntary e?ntributiona of
a sect which profeased in the main and entirely the very'
same religious doctrines preached and believed in by the
eongregation assembled in the church of England o dike.
(Hear, hear.) la that church the eler man preached to
his congregation; whilst in the other house of worship I
there woo no minister of any order, no minister paid fur
service. rendered. (Hear, hear.) Tiny both lived in a
country the congre:irationa or which professed to have done
long ago with psalms, penalties, and persecutions on the
ground of rligious difference. Yet, by authority of an act
of parlianrat, the minister of the established church—
legally, of course—by his agents or proxies, ent.to d the
premises of the other coue'regation awl took—no ne.tter if
tt only amounted to '2ld., the inherent hijustie. acne the
same—some 41) articles of furniture off the premise*,
which were subaapiently sold by auction, and the mom y
lodged ha the sack, as directed by the act of par:lammd,
which thus cuipuwered the clergyman to raise some 2,0 W/.
ayeor. (Hear, hear.) Ito admitted the clergyman, of
whose excellence or otherwise he Luew nothing whatever,
was legally empowers...l, and that he had the sauctien of en
act of Natant. ut ; but if Out :let had ro ceiv. d the es-rat of
esery legislature in Europe the Wino,. of these articles
would not be the less an inherent aggression. (Hear, hear.)
The fact as couteuded fur by the hon. baronet, that a parish
minority, consisting of the clerk, the Keeton, the grave-
digger, and the lall-ringer—(laughtcr)—meetig tea.other,
eau do that in a parish which u minority of that house
cattoot du for the country, was au as-morning of every
thing which they held to Le valuable under the conatitutiou
of this kingdom. (Hear.) In hi. (Mr. Bright's) opinion,
the church rate JIM was like martial law, as explained
by the Duke of Wellington the other night, no law :It
all. Hear, hear," and a laugh.) It was possible by an
expenditure of: some 2,000 L to go through the quagmire of
the Ecclesiastical ('unit; but in the end, it fall out that the
suit was generally dropped for want of Wilda. (Mar, hear.)
And would it not be possible fur a zealous, honest, and
pious minister, by arrangement with his congregation,
to provide as mach as would be necessary for maintaining
the church, without coming to the dissenters I (Hear,
hear.) The cathedral church of Manchester was }Merl
every Sunday with a congregation, which, with thin assist-
ance of other parishes, would be equal to the maintenance
of the church. The congregation of the Rev. Mr. Russell
was more numerous than that which resorted to the
mecting.houst of the Society of Friends at the op-
poaite side of the street • and therefore it was
nothing short of a scandal to can on the latter to maintain
the establishment of the former. (Hear, hear.) These
were troublesome times for the church, as speeches
and other significant signs demoutitrated; and therefore he
advised the hon. baronet to "set his house in order."
(Laughter.) In the event of anything occurring it would
be better to he prepared to meet it than to be overpowered
by the damaging lumber of the church rates-. (hear, hear)
—and he hoped the committee would, therefore, sift the
question, and that when the report should be brought in,
the noble lord at the head of the ministry, if is office—(a
laugh)—would not allow it to be shelved. Indeed what-
ever miuistre might lee in power he would find it beneficial
to the inter, ode of the church to make a clean sweep of all
matters w ich were not alone unjust towards the dissenter,
but materially injurious to the church itself. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HOPE said that all the laws passed for the mainte-
nance of the church were enacted at a period when all
were churchmen, and when the constitution of England
was different from what it was at present. (Hear, hear.)
He thought it advisable, when other important inquiries
were taking place, that the subject of church rate should
not be conaidered as based upon an immutable found otion.
He believed that the church of England, after all
she had gone through and all she had suffer, d, was never
more desirous of fair play,of toleration, and of liberty often-
science thou she was now ; and he hoped that the same
liberty of conscience which she was willing to concede to
others would be given to herself. (Hear, heur.)
Mr. HEYWORTH said he should support the motion
of the hon. member for Tavistock. If the hon. baronet's
argument was good, they could not repeal an) thine. (Hear.) ,
Mr. LESSARD said, that an representing a large bogy
of dissenters, he could not hut express his satisfaction at the
course which the government had taken in reference to this
motion. No subject had been productive of so much
and heart-burnings; and the notice for the levying of a

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fined to lkotidon."—it7rev:iiled in ninny of 'the large towns
of the kingdom. Birmingham, Manchester, and 'weds were
in the cams condition. 11, could sp ale of Itlmeliester from
his own experience, having tome through it from wet to
end. Ile would read for the information of the house the
following description of Morpeth :
In Lomeli les-lime I found lodging home I (Frey mat et larded, one
of whiels was over a late the came where the woilain had
d.e.l ehiatra. At the Wad of (Maidd les-Jsr these ate also R.ldn
mid dens awl mist", the drains frost whit', pass muster the a..poontig
e dup., Tots state ef thine• !unbends the peer athatthauts with
surface of visible tieb, 003 Woo keeps them in an lame phi re of Lou!
goon*, where the seeded data... :wed really lit eu. I ever, ;awed.
lag to the medical evidence, is 'rant canstatt in these ;duets; and
cholera, as shown, Is first developed Its snit rooms as that .ever the
privy al I oohed suns:. .d in laused, act--! see. 31d. undue crowding
deAttlittite t the pr. :eat, as istr.4" !A:l,h of tite t' iltilsbis
Eits. The wet and dame t.l.llled ‘di the maidens generate tint, .11. i
the sutras filth is tredtko ism the hawses, the titian:Oa of which is
consequently rani ...nod, and the re-tit is rapid if a lehowing
own Is compelled, for want of better acrultuntheuei, to ',A. in A :eh
tram tie', t.e Imes his !.ealth, lark% has labour, and the toraer cammt
obtain paymeut from a :away reduced to pauprattew, and PO he i,..11.41
his rent.
This refereed to a st Ate of thing. of which he hail fre-
quent peewit:ll experience. The labouring man V. 11./ had
been able to earn 20s. and 2.15. a week had his health pre-
maturely broken down from being obliged to live in th •se
overcrowded rooms, and Isis wife awl children were left a
burden on the parish. The town-clerk guru the following
.„,eraphic description of the ludging-houses ut the same place :
abe table edit chow the narrow space ottforded to ea % ladle:deal,
but It eta give no Wet of the :stet d ,m.e of the rooms or the seven
csheet.'these that ceder isle hive thew ar who •a Maury
tilled with as many as e tai possibly lieupon thew. Others Mod berths
It low the Ixds, and nen ',he racy t noires on the ft r are occupied.
An nit tnt,d In a tat .:Beet with vanit and natural StdCtaillOnt.
Other hourr» have set lode, but their occuaiers are pa ievi upon the
flow, In rows, the head tf of e being cause to the feet of another.
Face body is placed ea close to as neighbotr .te not t 0 leeve paid, it'd
spas open which to .et a foot. 'I he mu:tents are entirely naked,
except rues drawn tip a far teethe I and *ken to this Is aided
that the dOOl,l VI. lows are caretully Cidl.s.d, and the. there s • not
the least tbstinetleo of sex, bat mean, women, and children lie main.
ersminately sill t oy side, .0100 f.mt idea may be formed of the slut*
of thue pl ate., ars. their t trect epth health, tamale, and thnency.
Fader s ItteVsil, and the rickes-rd of the workhouse Is filled with
tephes :n l's worst furs Iron these planu.
They had done much of lute years to beautify and embellish
the metropolis, but is pulling down the wretched dwellings
of the poor without providing for them some places in which
they could live in decency, an injury had been dote to the
working classes. and the evils that oppressed a largo por-
tion of the community had been augmented. Take, for
in.tanee the CAW of Church-lane, in Ifloontsbni7, one of
the filthiest places that could possibly be nuaginel. it was
unsafe to enter it, from the constant prevalence of fever.
(Hear, hear.) 'this Church-lane had been visited by the
Statistical Society in 1818, and they say in their repott—
A tdeture in detail of human we telitthous, Nth, send brutal degra-
dation. In these wretched ilweeirgs, all epee end b Ith trees, flatters
and dau;hters, mothers and sot s, gn.wn up ambers and sisters, the
tick, dya.g, and acid, are hershal toaa.ther. Take an illAtlinte
Howe, So. i, use of room 14 feet long, 13 feet broad, 6 feet high ;
rent ta. for two manta per week —und ourcse, W. a eight fur stab
adult. umber of families, 3; S malts above Sts; 5 fen -slew Ante
20: 4 male. twister 20; 5 females under 29; total, 22 vele. Lend.
holy receives loss a week ; thus a clear profit of Its, btoto of rotas
tilthy.
It should be matter of dee? COlllsidCratiOn to them all to
provide a remedy fur this state of things, for these were the
place* that, as it were, ins itml and tempted the cholera to
come amongst them. 'l ite number of places which had
been examined by the inspectors of the Board of health
were 161, awl the le.,pul,,tion of these places amouuted to
1,912,,M. Now he could safely say that in these places it
was impossible to preserve anything approaching to dew ney.
It was in this state of things that ho asked for leave to bring
in a bill. Thu bill which he 'imposed was simply permis-
sive, and was as nearly es possible a transcript of the Baths
rind Was .houses Bill, which had already produced such
beneficial effects, but which had by nu meaty worked out
all its result.. (Cheers.) lie would now state to the house
some of the good effeets produced bY model lodging-houses
in the narrow limit* within which they had been carried
out. Nothing iu the system was more remarkable than the
regularity and cheerfulness with which the rent was paid.
By means of a rigorous and seenrate system, which did not
allow the tenants to fall into arrear, the greatest punctuality
was kept up, and this worked equally well fur those who
paid and those who received. 'I he freedom from disease in
these establishments, and particularly from contagious and
epidemic di-enders, was a matter of very great im-
portance. It was remarkable that the model lodg-
ing house, in George-strect, Bloomsbury, erected for
the reception of single men, was within a stone's-throw of
Church-lane. During the late epidemic the ravage* com-
mitted by cholera in Church-lane were perfectly terrific, yet
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aid subsequently move that these pas— , acing IX- -• church-etas were a - -- ---- ------ ' •- - -- --'
church rate was a notice of war between churchman and treatment. (licar, he.ar.) Thia.. mica ibis further silvan; 1, from Captain Larcom's table that -Otero were under grain
gu-ilty of a breach of privilo.ge, be committed to the custody rates under the Church Building Act. Ile trusted then the
di ,:eater. ter 'Cries of " Hear, hear.")
of the s,ricant-at•Arma. ' Mr. COW AN and he ram: fur the •purroae of expressing tage, that iu these houses the wages which the people i cultivation 1,E.19,000 acres less in 1849 then in 1817. Taking
house would agree to his motion. In the committee, if it - It • . . .
After a few words from Mr. Ilextro and Mr. E. ELLICE, were granted, the various plans might be rgriritleTC,l and
', __ an anxious hope that the suggestion of the hon. member fur earned they kept. The wages were not expended as they , Gt. an acre as the average value of agricultural produce, that
used to be, on medicine, or in the beer-house and the gin ,' would make 6,600,0001. less in the produce, of grain cult,
Jun., the committee would make their reportto the house,tcav
Montrose, respecting the extending of the inquiry to Edin- palace. The accommodation afforded an inducement to 1 station than in 1817. Then the return of swine lap
motion that Skait and Birchmore had been guilty pro it to the house to legislate on this subject as it thought burgh and Nlontrose, might be carried into effect.
of a breach of privilege, and that the Speaker's warrant do proper. remain at home, and thus these bouts had beta the means , ported into England from Ireland showed a diminution
of the Ser- Mr. lIARDCASTLE, in seconding the motion, said that (Agreed.).,,,
r. F. MAULE said he could not agree to the singes- of reforming numbers. It was impossible to go amongst' to the value of a million, and the importation of sheep had
jimet.fator.Athrettair b, ewinotogeothmoomwitftvdoraltoytphoetcoousdto4Ty
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to.
GERMANY. trove
Mr. ANSTEY gave notice that on Thursday. he should
last year they had not even heard the name of the great con-
pwhich for the last sic mouths had more or less ant that these two subjects should be referred to one cam-
raY . The two subjecta were not of the same nature, the !
occupied the public mind, and the effect of which had been
that the rotestants were, to a great extent, convinced it church rate having been imposed for the purpose of keep- advantage,
ing the churches in repair ; whereaa, the annuity tax inl the lodgers without hearing the liveliest expressions of gra- fallen off to the value of half a million. Here then wac a
titude, and the utterance 'of a fear lest anything should decrease in the value of agricultural produce to the
occur to remove then, from these houses. Another amount of eight millions, and. an increase in the
though homely, was of no slight import- taxation of a million and a half. how could a
put • question to the Secretary for Foreign Affams, on the
wos
necessary,
subject of the negotiation with the Austrian government and
the Ocrmaaic Confederation, as to the reception of the non- t it
.for the defence of what they considered to be
he' common faith, to merge all petty *differences, to do
mi.
Bums tau
foe
return,
from
Lloyd,.
boous,
of away with quarrels about church-rates, and to close their
German territories into that confederation.
RETURN OF WRECKS OF VESSELS.*
all collisions, accidents, and wrecks of vessels, distinguish- ranks against an insidious and dangerous enemy. There was
a still more serious reason than that, and that was the events
of the last two years, arising from what was commonly called . b d
the decision in the Gorham case, and the great battle which
leg the sailing from steam vessels, and spec' the nature had been ragtag all over the country about services and sa-
ef- each collision, accident, or wreck, the number of lives
lest by each in each year, since the let Jan., 1847, up to 31st
Dec., 18.50.
After some conversation, the motion was withdrawn.
]Kr. HUME them moved for a copy of the reports of the
Board of Trade inspector:on the loos of the steamers Sirius,
Tribune, and Fin McGoul, on the coast of Ireland; of the cements. He world remind the houe that the number of
dissenters in England and Wales was considerable, and that
within the last fifty years they had built for themselves
between 8,000 and 9,000 meeting-house, and paid the
ripen& of the ministers who officiated ; but the established
church had upwards of 12,000 buildings erected by the piety Edinburgh and Montrose was the means by which their i
. ancestors paid the salaries of the clergy. A considemble
correspondence had taken place on the subject, and a friend
of his had been sent down to Edinburgh ' ' Ew to negotiate be-
tweet' the parties on the subject of this tax. These negotia-
Lions a not been successful, but the government hau
exerted their authority to bring them to a favourable tune,
and he was not without hope that the partief might be yet
brought to agree amongst themselves.
The motion was then agreed to.
ST. ALBANS ELECTION. THE C
LLUI LYNES. . ante in the life of a working man. In Stretton- country go on with decreased production and incre,ne
street there was a large open space in which all the taxation ? It was not known, it. was not believed
children of the lod ing-house were allowed to co to- in this country, how the value of land had decreased in
state for play. The gresult was that the y aeoided formuging Ireland. Under the Incumbered, Estates Act, land that
associations by playing under the eye of their parents. was freely sold in 1845 at 24 years purchase, did notelet,tch
. ear, hear.) t should be observed that his' more than 11 years' purchase. It was said that laud
o,a‘sr
Lord Ashley s) proposition violated no principle what- let high in Ireland, but the fact was it was let rose .r.r.
ever. These houses were self-supporting ; their chant, cent. less than land of ,:similar character in this co. t
ter was not eleemosynary. All that was needed was The present distress was owing to bad legislation iunutb:t.t
that they should do for the working man what he could I house and to their having driven into the
thismar ~10.. t
not do for himself, lay out capital for which they would an inordinate quantity of land. Nor was T';
ASE OF WIL- receive an adequate return. The main object of the sixiety tress confined to the agricultural districts. It extended
was to prove by experience that investments of that kind to all towns, large or small. In the city
The Serjeant-at-Arms said that, in pursuance of were self-remunerative, and that fact had been completely honour to represent, Waterford, proper h • ad fallen t"
of former generations, and which required only to be kept the order of the house, he had made a return to the writ established, He would state the result of an experience of per cent. in value, and there was at this moment property._.„
Orion, on the coast of Scotland; of the Dumbarton Castle' in repair. Were the payments of the dissenter entirely ofhabeu corpus which had been served upon him in the
on the coast of Ragland; and of the Royal Victoria, in the some years on an extensive scale. The Society for Im- of tho value of 5,0001. per annum empty. Trade was am
withdrawn, he did not believe that protestant felt so little case of Willtam Lynes. The clerk at the table read the proving the Condition of the Labouring Classes had ex. suushing. the shopkeepers were all but bankrupt, their-
Baltic. Also am yews of use neeeuity of systematic interest in the welfare of their church as not to be able to return in the terms as directed by the order of the house. pended in building and fitting-up three new model lodoing labourers had either emigrated or were in the po
supervision of stamen ; and of the present state of " at, do without those payments; and he had no doubt that the The return stated that the
noose ltglits "as board of steamer —Agreed to.prisoner was discharged from houses 20,7601. ;it had oleo expended 2,2501. in improving, house. Ile asked for investigation, and he woulde.
dissenters, who now objected to this tax while it was tom- custody.proof of the pr
adapting, and fitting-up three ranges of old dwellings; prove all these facts. Asa further
c,. ,
PROCEEDINGS AGAINST ALLEGED PIRATES IN pulsory, would willingly contribute to the repair ofehnrehes LODGING-HOUSES FOR THE WORIUNG making a total expenditure of 23,000!. The net return, valent distress, the honourable member then
ov
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THE EASTERN ARCHIPELAGO. if the payments were voluntary. It was not n to CLASSES. after deducting all incidental expenses, averaged 6 per cent.; passage from a letter from the poor rate collectors f
theirl
be had the
lir. HUME moved foe copies or extracts of any de- *bag the rates altogether; then were many in Load ASHLEY, in moving for leave to bring in a bill to on new buildings 5i per cent. ; on old 12 per cent. terford, stating that the farmers were so de. rased in
oratohsi Min the 0111011 Calialading the N•dean irai, weans of rewiring the evils that were now owspiiiieg of encourage the confirmed= d lagging-Wind for the work- Ono way in which the condition of the labouring clams . circumstances that ho should be obliged to sure under war-