The Express.
London, England, 1865-03-22 00:00:00

TEA - WEDNESDAY

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT•

small Roman catholic minority to believe that
they did sot dulls is any way to injure the theti-
haiku, of the °mislay, but that they wished to act in
harmony with the other members of the house in promot-
ing the welfare of the nation. The portions of the present
oath which he would abolish were the aliases miaowing,
*sells& and abjuring the doodles that prisces 1121,00101{1.
cleated or deposed by the Pope or any authority of the See
of Rowe might be deposed or matadors& by their subjects or
by say whatever ; Sadly Leg that the declaration
wee in its plain sad ordinary sere ; disolaimiag, die.
&yowls', and objoriog soy intentioa to subvert the esta-
blished church ; and swearing never to disturb or weaken
the prolestast rapine or die prof scent goeernment in the
United Kingless. For these le popemed to substitute the
simple oath of supremacy.
Su G. GREY said oa the part of the government he gave
• ready meat to kiss in the bill. It was imponeilsks to
deny that the asbjest was one that was entitled to coast.
&ratios. He agreed with the right hoc. gentlemen that it
was wrong to impose an oath that wu of doubtful ieterpre-
tuios or needlessly offesidve to thus on whom it was
imposed,
.and needlessly °Rewire not became, they could
sot oonsineettonaly make the deolalatioa bat because it im-
paled to than prineples and opinion" which they on all
mosaics, repudiated. How for thus objectioes applied to
the oath impaled oil Roman catholic' would be a subject of
dietaries, bat me les understood so member objected te the
introduction of the hill he would not ester late that discus-
sloe now.
Mr. NEWDEOATE was sorry to find that the Horne
Secretary continued to display the same karts( towards
nitramoatans doctrine that they had bad previously to
lament. In his opinion the present moment was sac.
gularly inopportune for the home to tibiae's the propped
change, um* that the French legislature wen occupied by
the gravest diseasioas on the hest mean, of dealing with
I the West Papal aggreedos, is the shape of the Pope's
Encyclical, which they deemed it advinabk, is the interests
of social sad political order and the pesos of families to
resist.
Mr. WHALLEY condemned the proposal u involving a
great coostituticsel change in the organiestioa of the house,
and threatened to oppose the bill on its second reading.
The house Itemise gone into C001021i4•11, leave was gives
to introduce the bilL

HOURS OF LORD& —TV =DAY, MAzoit IL

The Loma Oevrcn.Ws took his most on the woks* at
eckpok.
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Lard MONSON preseated polities frogs the
sad corporation of Bestos, Lhass, la tamer en:
scriefes of the Lee relating to baskrapiec.
Lord DONOUGHMORE presaged a patitkr from Mr.
Isejamis Les Geisoare, for the smeadmeet of the Bask-
/Epee, sod Isaolressy ( ) let keteadmest Si&

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AFFIRMATIONS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Lewd CHELMSFORD, is reeving the mend reading of
this bill, said that the °Meet of it wee to ermine a doubt
white nand as to whether as set of 1855 subititating
esteem of rreatiaes and declaration for oaths in certain
mess extended to mined courts ia Scotland. This bill
would erten the act to arimisal as well as to civil court&
The bill was thee read a seeded Vas&
THE MIDDLESEX JUSTICES.
The Marquis TOWNSWEND Wood if her Majesty's
cenwoment unaded to take say steps to rectify an OMISOIOII
be regulation made by the jesting of Middlesex, in conve-
y:nem of which than was as provide* for the reoeption of
person committed to prism la default of paying moneys
adored in civil prows by polies warts.
Earl GRANVILLE was understood to my that the
government intoned to Ins ao stops in the matter.
CASUAL POOR
The Marquis TOWNSHEND asked whether the pen-
ile, adopted-by the guanine of the poor is the metropolis,
a Jamie( oat of workhouses at early hours in the monism
steal poor penes who bed so employment or plains of net.
den* bed met with the direct sanction of an Foot-law
Board ; and whether, is the troatrary„ in amordeace with
the law for the relief of the poor, guardians ought sot to
provide food and shelter, at all times, foe all dentate
persons, irrespective of their plans of settlerneat, until
they might clines to disooatinne receiving it, it until
they were passed to their respective parishes.
Lord HOUGHTON said he wished that hie noble hind
had brought forward this (mastics in a more formal manner.
Be had moved for returns epos the subject at the beginsing
of this session, which had been resented ; sad similar re-
tinue had Men moved foe is the other house, which were
sot yet given. The question was a more impatient and
&Moult on than the sable lord imagined. The viatica of
the Madmen of the canal poor is the metropon affected
sot oily the operation of the Poor-law, bat the habits of
the people. A great number of the workeouse wards, which
had been prepared at a great expose, lead ben by
no
means toll dude( the most Melement weather, whilst
the refuges provided by the offend of • number of most
ezeellent ladies had ben filled to IMAM He w told that
there was ealy one night dozing the pewnt year as which
the workhoese wards were filled, that was the sight
Were the executies of Muller, when • large number of
same up from the country sad filled noes ward&
To reeks thou wards toe comfortable was to attract to the
metropolis the unhappy vagrant pear from the country,
and his imprisons was that there had been during the last.
two or three peen a very large Marine in the wandering
mast poor of Linden. They became day by day mere
&obeying, and he thought some measure should be takes
either to employ there parson is • fit ironer or to re-
move them. He believed the poor-law authorities were
seen anions to afford suitable relief to the anal poor, ,
bat they had • most difiloult problem to solve. The gum-
tie& wan one of great importance, and be regretted there
was ao pima in that house prosaically acquainted with the
'abject and capable of giving satinfactory note:otiose on
social question of this kind ; for the Hoene Sweeney, sad
the Coder Secretary for the Home Departareet, the bead of
the Poor-law Department, sad the secretary wars all in the
ether henna
Earl GRANVILLE said it was quite clear there was
seeking OD &Seek as to administer relief to this ekes of
ponces without Morenag the number of ragmen amen
ear poor population. With regard to the complaint of the
sable lord, that there was no representative of the Poor-
law Board ie their lordships' hone, the general complaint
lied rather been that there were too navy dace& in that
hems, instead of too few. With respect to the particular
gelatin the Poor-law Board was perfectly unaware of any
mach practice of dentate people being turned oat early is
the morning. They had sever given it their sanatioc. The
feet was that is the morning the person discharged them-
selves, and if say of them repeessutd themselves as utterly
desilitute and requiring relief they were banded over to the
✓elieving officer and if they required medical attendance,
sir ledgiege, or feed. it was found them.
The Earl of HARROWBY thought it impossible to deal
with this alas. of person by a system of local, control. The
"abject was well worthy the attention of their lordships,
sad he Monad his nein fined (Lord Flonhtcm) would in-
augurate his acesmise to that hone by movie" for • select
ementan, for the porpaoe of considering the beat mode of
ending with the nasal poor.
The subject then
On the modem rEt amnion, it was agreed to
used a swap to the other hone, requesting they would
oceentunicate to their lordships the sieeee takes before •
select committee oa the Omen j Junin Site Bill.
Their lordebipe ad jeareed at a warier before six o'clock.

FIRE INSURANCE DUTY.
Mr. H. B. SHERIDAN then rose to move that, is the
opinion of this how, it wee exedra, that the redaction
of Ere 'neuroses duty, made is the last session, be
extended. at the earliest opportunity, to louses, house-
hold goods, sad all descriptions of insurable property.
The boo. gentleman said that as there was nothing Dew in
the terse of Ins resolution, sad asithieg in them which
the bones bad not adopted os former occssioes, he
thought it would be ennemeary to enter into the subject at
any great leepti. The Mures of the duty rat year was
in campfires with a ~Mhos which the beim had pre-
viously adapted. He thought the questios sow resolved
itself tabs two points—whether he was right In reprise
that the house had asecitiosed the policy of redaction to the
bon inerame duty generally; aid, roondly, whether the
governing had given effect to the mohair of the
which was to the effect that the duty should be r=
from 3s. to la par eons. After nary debates and divistra
agairt this duty, be left the quashes in the band,
of the goverment ; bat within was done for
Isom time, but eveatery the goverment pro-
PMed a redid redaction is the duty, which was
most ungshafectory in its operation throughout the country.
He had bees rimed to submit his metre Mears he bed
been •ieformed by • right hoe patlemaa that &bare was
nothing so binding on Misgovernment as a resolution of tbe
house. He had succeeded sod bad spited to see the result
Some attempt had, it was tree, bees mode to give effect to
the resolution, but be thought the goverment had taken
the wrong coarse in fixing their redaction. What be wept
foe was • pascal reduction, and it was that whir is his
=Reim would be more in aceordance with the expressed
wishes of the bourn What he asked them was that the
right has, gentleman should, if possible, comply with
their wishes, or if be found that impossible let the NOD-
lution stand as an instruction to the goverment to consider
the fire ineernes duty as the first is the list for repeal
There could be Ito doubt as to the wishes of the country, es
petitions in favour of reduction had come is from all classes
in all parte of the kingdom.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be rose
for the purees of aerie{ the emirs queries, aid there-
fore is wee not his intention to ester iato the merit. of the
resolotioa ; he should merely address himself to the qua-
lir of the time at which it was 'irradiated. At so time
had it ever been known for • governeest to eased, to • re-
solutioe for tee reduction of tree before the illeinrial state-
meat is Its entirety was laid Odors perlimaset. The has.
member for Dudley had told them that some right hoe.
'rheum, whom he did not gay, hat twitted him for his
infant's* simplicity is istroducieg a MII, and bed Warmed
him that a resolution *mild be all potent Now is his (tbe
Chanoslior of the Exchequer'.) opines the fors and po-
mmy of a resolution denuded rarely on the subject
matter, bat at the sum tier he bed sever thought
that • resolution pointieg to reduction of taxation was un-
dermine the &herniae of (mermen. All proposals for
reducing the bantam of the people, ONO althougb not in
aceordasee with the views of the government, demanded
respectful attention, sod should form elemental for conside-
ration whoa arranging the financial proposals of the year.
Oa the other bead, be felt booed to say that the over-
, replica mind of the bon. member cousiderabiy overrated
NEW MEMber. I the perm of these resolutions. He had surely forgotten
Lard C. BRUCK, hieredaged by his broths,, Lord E. ths meet moose mown.o of all, that tor the, Topa of the
Baucu, and Mr. MAME. took the oaths and his seat es his paper duty, whim, although 'overman felt boned to give
.let dos for North was.. it effect, the hers was far from rashers, and in 1861 •
POOLE AND BOURNEMOUTH RAILWAY BILL, very large minority of the boar wished to substitute a
The bill was read • third time said pared• of their own for the sabre of the government.
UTILISATION OF SEWAGE AND LAND RECLA- Crisis to motions of this kind, made in an-
RATION (IRELAND) BILL. ticipation of the budget, he wee not aware of
Sr C. CeLOGHLEN moved that this bill be referred to the any OW in which geed bad remelted from
eider* committee on the Metropolis Sewer and Fa= them. They had an obvious tindery to excite expects-
Reclamation ; the same Mimeses, he said, would be called lions which if good, would not have suffered injury from
Wore both committees, and it would save • good deal of waiting, but if fallacious most teed to create mischief and
exera if one committee took both bills. to produce diratiefteties. Not that was sot the worst: •
Colonel PATTEN said the Metropolitan Bill was referred resolution picking out a particular item of taxation foe le-
ts • committee consisting partly of members interested in dacha* was contrary to that ormstitatiosal sirrespionet
the bill and why of reen.bege nominated by the committee which required that the entire Inertial carillon of the
sf selection. He had spokes to one or two of the committee, country should be placed before parliament, whim math-
sod be ford that they objected to take the Irish bill, rent could make it. selection of the bunks which was
the as thee e moire w withdrawn. to be removed It wee also an 144 W hostile to the prin-
ciple which wiper the initiativeis snob matters to the
FIEFS IN THE KETROPOLIS. I reverse:sot, a ermine which bad inflamer the beer a
Mr. HANKEY asked the Cedar-Secretary of State for i mote since, when enshrine a proposal for the rain-
the Home penatant 'ben realm eat to Mmadum bis hoe of the malt tax. On that rearm not • syllable was
bill for the better protection of la • and property spirt said as to the rite of the tax, sad surely the house, was
fires is the metropolis, not, having rejected one great demand, sew about to reverse
Mr. T. G. BARING hoped it would be brought in very pm ow. &cwo... The hon. membermid it mei tme the
diartly. boos, gave effect to its own Yore for the remission of
WATERWORKS. Ire joggles°, date, bat he should reessiber that it bad
Mr. FERRAND asked the Secretary of State for tbe meami epos the expediency repealing
the melt tax eng
Name Department if Yr. &Miser, the government ea- had afterwards remteded that medium Let **holm eon.
Blew, bad made say Mbar reports a° lb. ,tats of "Me' eider the position in which goverment would be placed by
mark, ressevoire than these already published ; and, if ao ....is/ a moire of this kind, it brag absolutely orrery
whitherbe would lay them epos the table of the hour Z. -duty of government to come to say grrevoinale gem.
Air G. GREY =slain Mr. Bambara bad made • report sten on any
tax anti
it was hemre what mown emmeete
as to the walierworks at Rochdale, and (es we understood) of revenue now,' prod.. To form if.f.e. this moose ea
one or two other places. If the bon. member would move let the present teoppa...mome.t would foree the omen.
far them they would be laid on the table. meet into an act of compulsory disrespect to the beer.
THE RECENT EXECUTION AT DURHAM. The boo. member made two propositions, or was that it
Mr. LAWSON asked the Secretary of State for the Home was the wish of %heronry to have • ruder= rate of dray,
Deperenest whether his attestion bad bees called to the and the other was that the last redushos rare was not is
horrible scene which took pre, at the exerties of Matthew compliance with the wishes of the hour Who ever said
Atddliscia is Derr= aid whether be had made any inquiry it was! Government did not propose it in that sense. It
Leto the cored of tbe authorities who had tho manage- was usgracros to quote or's own speeches, but a raft-
meet of that execution. roam to a former financial stateliest would show that
It. Fa G. GREY had not made any inquiry, because the day the reduction was merle in order, se far as possible I
alter the rhyme oeseregeos the governor of the gaol had "to meet the =evictions of the hour even although
written him an 110001Ing of the accident, and had informed the government did not share them." His rime
him what precautions had previously been takes to provost to the boa member was that his motion was unnecessary,
wok • thing from beepers. He (the right boo. baronet) beers* tbe governinest we, already aware of what were
bed thereupon written to the sheriff, who was the eery the wishes of the house. The lamw member said that the
directly responsible for carrying executions into effect, and former resolution should be taken as a verdict ;
bed meted to him hie opinion that sufficient CAC. bad sot but if so, what necessity wee there for another motion, which
bean taken io testing the rope beforehand. He bad akabe objected to as not merely declaring the expediency of
expressed a hope that if unfortunately the neoes•q should reducing the duty on fire insurance, but as prescribing the
spa arise for execution g a capital sentenee in particular manner ad form in whir It was to be does, and
water promotions would be tram to prevent the per- that too within a few days of the delivery of the financial
laity of so deplorable as ever recurring. staterneat. Bat the boa. member, whilst proposing one
CONSULAR REPORTS. reduction, said be knew a bettor. He proposed • reduction
Mr. BAINES asked the Under Secretary of State for to la 6d., but said the coney would be better pleased
lereiga Affairs whether it was internist to issue the coo- with cad shilling, and Maas his &era and his rethlution WM'
sour asperse sad reports of the e.t.d.. al kiregme, fog ! trained each other. On the whole, he did tot IWO that
the isformaties of the mercantile public, at shorter is. 4 there was &amain to be Reined by this metre. and =must
Wale I therefore persist in moving the previous question.
• Mr. LAYARD had made such arrangements at the • Mr. CRAWFORD would give what be knew would be
Forign-olls, as be hoped would enable the reports to be' an unpopular vote widest the motion, because be believed
laid on the table at the sad of each month, or as saes alter ; the time of its ietrOd union to be inopportune.
the het day of each monk r possible. i Mr. HUBBARD asked if the country was governed =-
OFFICE OF WORKS, M. timely Ity the admioistratioe for the time being or in any
Mr. AUGUSTUS SMITH. is moving for • select ern- degree by the House of Coerces, berme if the Hone, of
mitre to inquire Late the Moe of Works and the Office of Commons had any voice in the government of the country
Weeds, Forests. sad Lead Revenues, charged these depart- It had a right at ems times to ewer its opines on mat-
aseis with wasteful extravagant*, mismeaseemest, and tees of taxation. If • motion of this sort was introdored
gessist isefficiesey, phisp( the Chancellor of the Ex. beiges the budget it wee said to be premature and if it
=ruse in support of views, declared. in the Irreg. came after the freseial statement was made it, was said
of the right hon. gentleman, that vacillation, reertsdrity, to be too late. (Hear, bear.)
rierealeient, sad all the conflicting vices that could be sun- Mr. JACKSON joined is the appeal of the hon. member
marated were eared is the system ; and that such were its for the City of London, and hoped the member for Dudley
wale that rib* short of • revolutionary reform would would sot press the motion to a division, but that be would
per be eafficiest to remedy than.. rely ore the mod intentioes of the Chancellor of the Ex.
Mr. NEATE IWOOMand the metre, which was resisted by chequer is reference to the subject of fire insurance.
Mr. F. )'EEL, who &feeds' the administretion, and eon- Mr, MALINS hoped the boa member for Dudley would
ilsaded that there was so ground whatever for the =miry not be led away by a false reit, but that he would
="iThere had already bees several iequiries, con- divide the house upon the pieties. To leave the question
by committees of that here and by tie Treasury, to the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be • rears dela-
sad the green rash had bees favoian.ble aad to the *soda gar.
at the &Panama- MR was ma&land farther afeereet by ' Sir R. CLIFTON also expressed • bops that the resole.
els feet that there bed been a great brew in the per ties arid be germ' to a &enema
enema of the Crows loads, mid in the amount annually • mug a sgw weed. from Mr. Elgibmei le reply, the
peed
_into the Exchequer to the credit of the Cosoolidated house divided on there pvious question. when there were—
/Fee pah= the
After • few words from Mr. A. Urn is reply, the Adidast question
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melt= was segatived without • division. The ansouscemiest of the umbers was roared with
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC OATH, loud rem.
Mr. MONSELL saved that the house should go bib • Tie clasigioa won this Pak and the ftwolutiou of the
emenittes for the perm, of &mar the chairman to boa •
mamba'. far Dudley was sifted ha
sews that have be gives to brief in • bill to substitute ea CHEMISTS AND DRUGGISTS.
oath for the malt required to is tree sad subscribed by J. SHELLEY mewed that the bag. go rte
mm-
Reman catholic@ nester the Catholic Enumerating Act mitre, is order to amble him to bring In aMB for regular,
Miring dwelt at some Hag* upon the ferries end im- leg the gratificante. of ebegetaie nes &mom. m Emitted
membly of requiring from nay perm ae oath that WY sot awl Ware. H. erebdged that his °ma was to
prone sad defiers in its terms the bee. member observed fettle., eggahhane with regard to the gels of ioisons I[
thet the oath schninietered I. Eagan eathelles was iquivo. lease man gives 60 bring La the bet, Lew at slater
eel In its messing, sod that the beer was beer either I. - stage to raging that the bill sham be retested to „sleet
marl it, or sleet .nee es elleratise is It es would ecrearnege,
maks it clear aid usequivead. What be asked wee • The beer thee wen's= Ogralibinai and leave wee Pre
teat they Afield have sulleisat gealbireas Is the be atug la she

HOME OF COMEMONB.—Tmersey, Meson 21.
The SPUN= took the chair • few minute, before
4 o'clock.