The Express.
London, England, 1848-07-25 00:00:00

THE 1,-XPRESS, TUESDAY tTENING, JULY 25, 1

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. I
HOUSE OF LORDS.--MeNDAT, JULY 24. I
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PRIVATE BusiNgss.
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W.atern Railway Company's Acts Arivridnient (extension, deviation,
end new works) ; Billa
ruP,Lic BUSINESS.
PETITIONS.—IIy the earl of LUCAS, front • dialect in Ireland.
complaining of the suspension of the public works there in Ist', and
of the great diem• occasioned thereby.--Earl of DARROWRY,
from journeymen bakers, complaining of the system which obligee
' them to work by night; ale from planters, merchants, and others of
Jamaica, oomplaiiting of the degrees occasioned by the recent mea-
sure. bringing foreigm sour into oimpeetion with the swear of our
colonies.•-lord ISEA:'RONT, from Ci.ISSIer. compleining of the
neglect of a joint mock a milmini in.* attending to the 0.1011101.100 01
the river Dee.
gp.c.r..„.,' RF.ADINGS.-I'. ; Zeoleeleeneel rumen. Suite
Compromies • Mg.
COMMITAE.—PubIic Health Bill.
REPORT.—Ti age. Relief (Ireland) Bill. vos. 1 and 2);
THIRD READlNOS.—Adminietration of Justice (I, ~.,. , ~..,...,..
PrOSSCOOII of Justices from Vexatious Actions; Eutia, S ,
~,,,e7`,_ .
siastieti Patronage between Der Majesty and the karl of
s^- l r .
lOUs.
COMMONS' AMF.NDMENTS COSslDEßED.—Amigement
clesiestical Districte B.
ALL ITS eiTAGES.—illllabeas Corpus Suspension (Ireland) Bill.
Earl Darnley took the oaths and subscribed the parlia-
mentary roll.
SUSPENSION OFIRELAND) lIABEAS CORPUS ACT
( BILL.
Mr. Kemal and other members of the House of Commons
brought up this bill.
The Marquis of LANSDONCFNE said before the house
proceeded further in its ordinary would
business, he d call at-
tention to an act just sent up from the otherous—being
an act to suspend the habeas corpus act in certain. eases 111
Ireland instil the let of March, 11419, and he beggect tem to
move that the bill be r..:, a find time.
The bill having been read a first time.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE proceeded toasty that it
now became his duty to call attention to the further proceed.
logs as tothis bill. He was about to propose a very unusual
but not an unprecedented course with respect to the bill ;and
it would save time if he at once made hie olwervations
as to the course which he was about to propose lie had
first to state to their lordships that which 0
was sufficiently known, that only three days had
elapsed since the subject was matter of discussion in
that house, and in that time addnal and ocharac-
ver-
whelming proof had been given of the nature,
ter, and amount of the exigency for which their lordships
were now called on to legislate. In the
course
what
the prognosive state of Ireland. Ile held in h
ashish had hand a shoc-
ort
report, containing a summary of the bets
curred in Ireland uto Saturday last, and the result was,
that the clubs, out op f which rebellion was destined to g row,
were advancing with accelerated pace. (Hear,
othhear.r) In
the countiis of Cork, Waterford, Tipperary,
of the country.
and e coun-
ties, these clubs were practically in posseasion
During the short time since the Lord Lieutenant had pro-
claimed the cities of Dublin, Cork, and Waterford—during
that brief period the leaders of this conspiracy had been
moving from town to town and from county to
county for the avowed purpose of reviewin haile ex-
tent of their power. These proceedings been
adopted without disguise, as if the object of these
persons Was to make out a cue for the measure which their
lordships were now called upon to ad‘pt. Without troubling
their lordships with a mass of evidence as to the state and
conduct of these parties iu Ireland, he would shortly invite
attention to a few paragraphs Lore some of the acknowledged
imparts of sedition in that ciuntry, and lroin some most active
leaders of three clubs. He found a person called Donovan,
in a letter in a public print, stating " now every eye can see
the path which we should follow, now we have ceased to
discuss our position, and have commenced our Exodus ; now
we have passed fairly into a state of practical war." After
reading other passages, the noble marquis continued.
In the conclusion of the letter he said, " Young
men of Ire:and, on you I principally rely ; my
reliance is based on this, that yon arc very much inclined to
be valiant and have very little prudence to spare. Brothers,
let your watchword be ' Now, or never.' " Another of theme
paper., which was signed with the initials of "J. F. AL,"
meaning J. F. Meagher, who was also one of the insunee-
dor ary leaders, said, " There are 40.1/00 armed men in the
service of England "—inen, he (the Marquis of Lansdowne)
might observe, in passing, were placed there for the defence
of the country—" there are some 40,000 armed men in the
livery and service of England; and the question now is,
how best and soonest to kill and capture them." If there
were any further explanation or proof wanting of
he th
he spirie
t
in which it was sought to direct t wol '
mind and industry, if it could be so called,
of that partof the kingdom, it would be found in another 01
these papers, which he held in his band, and which availed
itself of one of the most useful, beneficent, and effectual mea-
tuVes that the prerient Lord Lieutenant uf Ireland had de•
vissd far the improvement of that country, for the
purpose of guarding against and preventing the recurrence
of famine, of which there still continued to exist too much
&p-prehension. For this purpose the Lord Lieutenant of Ire-
land hai sent persons through the country, who had been
by all loyal subjects well received, and they bore the
name of " practical instructors." the object b
eing tO
improve the ra-.e of agriculture in thattry.
Now these people, availing themselves of that name,
had, after describing them as one of Lord Claren-
don's titles of honour, " The Practical instructor,"
sent forth a column of instructions, not for the purpose of
improving the land, but containing every direction that
the most hellish imagination cauli supply for the purpose et
multiplying the means of destruction and degradation
throughout the land. lie would not fatigue their lordships
by reading the whole of these instructions, but one of them
was to prescribe a male by which flair of sulphur might be
fused with molten lead, so as to make the bullets more de-
structive. Another WAS, as to the method of making • glass
tube with • sharp point, which it was said would be a fatal in-
strument. There were also various receipts for preserviag arms
in damp positions, and for making grenade windows, to be
used for the purposes of war against the troops a..,d her
Majesty's loyal subjects in Ireland, in the event of a rebel-
lion. fhe question was how, in the possession of these facts,
their lordships ought to act, not only in applying a remedy,
but also how they could beat give that remedy a prompt
effect. (Hear, hear.) He therefore bad turned his attention
to pre, etlents, in order to see what would be the most 'reedy
coui se winch could be adopted, and he was happy to state
that there were precedents by which it appeared their lord
ships in times of emergency had, without any notice, pro-
corded in one day to carry sue!. a bill through all
its stages. lie found, without troubling their lot el-
ships with other precedents, that in the year
11103, without any previous no' ice, two bills were read a first
'ime, the standing orders 26 and 1.55 were dispensed with,
and they were then passed through all their stages. It was
resolved that it was unntially necessary for the public
safety that they should be proceeded with, and with all
despat:h ; and he had no hesitation in asking for a similar
course to be adopted now. (Hear.) When persons put
themselves without the pale of the constitution, when they
proclaimed war without incurring the dangers of wi.r, they
were: not entitled to receive the benefit of the wise pre-
cautions which the law of that house prescribed for the pro-
tection, not of rebellious, but of loyal subjects. (Cheers.)
One of the papers to which he had alluded ended with a
singular sentence. After the moat infamous language, the
writer concluded by saying: " Konen:lller this—that some-
where, and somehow, and by somebody, a beginning must
Ile male. Who strikes the first blow for Ireland ? Who will
draw the first blood ? " He believed that the best way to
prevent the first blood from being shed was without delay to
pass this bill, sod he should therefore at once move that it be
read a second time. (Hear, hear.)
Lord BROUGHAM gave his most hearty support to this
measure ; hut be must protest against the doctrine that we
wanted this or any other measure to save us from losing Ire
land. It was a fallacy to suppose that the existence of the
British empire in Ireland was in jeopardy ; the measure was
only wanted to prevent attempts at a severance of Ireland
from England ;. and although they must signally fail, yet
they might produce bloodshed. (Hear, hear.) Any attempt
to carry out the wicked projects of the leaders of the insur-
rectionary party in Ireland, it must be evident to all, would
most signally fail. (Hear, hear.) Such a measure was
surely wanted when persons within the walls of parliament
were issuing these vile proclamations ; and one of the worst
passages yet published came front a prisoner in a prison. He
hoped there was power to prevent pritnns from being con-
verted into place a from which criminals should again perpetrate
the offence for which they had been committed. There was
a power vested in the judges not only to commit to prison
but to any prison. Such power was proved to exist in the
ease of a gent ecoan, and a man of eduction, who had been
sentenced to 18 months' confinem• nt in Dorchester gaol for
libel, and he hoped the same law spoiled to Ireland. He
doubted whether the leaders would object to this measure.
There were persons who preached violent doctrines to the
multitude. hut they took very good care not to run any risk
themselves. Their object& were most sordid; they only
sought to draw moons; front the pockets of the people and
thought by saying, 'Do this and that, but don't break the
law," that they should save themselves from proncution ;
hut they were greatly mistaken. It was uif they were to i
bring gunpowder near a fire, and running away from
it were to say, " Pray don't explode." Their course
had been to get all they could out of the people
and then run away. Another set of persons bad
arisen who wished to make naing seditious speeches
without being amenable to them)
aw tor sedition. He
believed those persons were the very last to wish for a rebel-
lion ; but they could not stop their dupes • and the best way
to prevent it was to secure the persons of these leaders and
keep them quiet; and it was because this was the object of
the bill—it was because it sought to prevent the peace of the
country from being broken that ne gave his reluctant
Consent to tlis salutary beesuee necessary measure. I Hear.)
T; e Earl of WICKLOW complained of Mr. Duffy being
allowed from his prison to publish most seditious and
treasonable langin-ge.
The Marquis of LA.NSDOWNE said although the letters
to which the noble earl referred were dated from the prison,
there was reason to believe they were not written
there. (Hear, hear.)
The Earl of ELLENBOROUCiII gave his cordial assent
to the measure, but did not think it would prevent rebellion.
If it had been, proposed six or eight weeks ago it might
have done so. But • system of organisation had
been growing up from day to day. The speeches
which had been read by the noble marquis were not
new. Three months ago Lord Stanley read from the
United Irishman similar language ; and it was three months
ago when he (Lord Ellenborough) called attention to the
state of Ireland, and ask:d if the government anent to come

CATTLE, &c.—Total of Cattle received in London,
by the Emtern Counties Railway, for tke week ending
July 22 :—Seaqs, 1,514; Calves, 144; Sheep, 9,169; Pigs,

463.
NORWICH, July 22.-Our market exhibited a good show
of store Cattle ; there was a fair attendance of buyers, and
more sales effected, still prices cannot be quoted any better.
Fat Beasts a small number; trade firm, at 64. 6d. to 75. per
stone of 14lbs. The pens were b good Limbs,
quite as dear; middling, a better sale, with a clearance,
more confidence already being restored, and not one distasea
lot offered. Keeping Sheep quite as dear. Fat Sheep, 81.
per hone, and all sold. Ewes, she
of all age still a dull sale.
Oood store Pigs, from 30s. to 345. perad. Fat Pork,
6s. 6d. to 7s. per stone.
AL:CIII:4IILAR VALIDY FAIR.-TOO show of Sheep as to
number was certainly far above the a,traClC of many preced-
ing years, but, upon the whole, it was the general opinion
that the various sorta in the market were of an faction qa-
lity. Wedders sold from 14, to 16, ; Ewes, from 10s.0 to
135.; and Limb, from To. to IN. The stow of Cattle was
below the average of past years. Prime lit, 75.63 , down to
7s. and Gs. 6d. per Dutch static. Grass Cattle, two-year olds,
straw fed, from 71. to 101. ; year-olde, from 41. to 61. Calving
Cows were a little easier in price. The market on the whole
was dull, and a considerable number of Sheep and Cattle
remained unsold.
CAMELFORD LAMB FAIR produced an extraordinary
supply of Siteep and Lambs. Upwards of 5,000, of superior
quality, were produced for sale, but business was very dull;
there not being more than one-hell sold, and those at a re-
duction of full '2O per cent. as compared wi'h last year. The
cattle fair produced such a show of cattle, of all sera, as is
rarely to b Peen in any other neighbourhood in the west of
England for quality. There was rather a dull sale, owing
to the farmers not being willing to submit to the reduction
in the prices, but towards evening a good many bargains
were effected, there being about 230 sold altogether.
DCHDRE FAtR. Thebusiness done was not so extensive I
as on former occasions, and prices had rather • tendency
I
downwards. There were a good number of fat Cattle, but
few of them were of first-rate quality. As high as 7s. fad.
Dutch atone was given in some cases, but the general
average was consilemly lower. The show of lean Cattle
for gross wa: goal, and prices realized were from 91. to 121.
There were c onpamtively few Sheep end Lambs in the
market. Black-toed
wedders brought from 20s. to 253. ;
and Lambs from 10s. to 14s.
ELotts JtLY MARKET.-The show of stock on the ground
was less than we have seen at a July market, but could not
be called either small or of an inferior quality. Prices were
considered below last market, and, pasture being generally
good, farmers were less anxious to push a sale, so that, rather
than yield to a great reduction, they kept their stock. The
amount of sales effected was consequently not great. Several
milk Cows changed hands, at prices from 8/. to 121 accord-
ing to quality ; two.year.eld ranged from 71. 105. to 'll/. 105.
Very few large or heavy Cattle were sold.
Ross FAIR.-Store Ewes met with a ready pale, at r
fom
275. to 335. each • fat Sheep, 61d. per lb. Fat Cows, 6d. per
lb. Steers and 'fresh barren Cows met with • ready sale.
Cart Horses sold at lower prices than at late fairs.
Social ZEAL Fain.-Not only was the stack shown
generally of a superior description, but also the fair was more
largely supplied than has been the case for several years;
indeed, everything tended to show that this place is well
situated for a mart for cattle. Of fat Bullocks there was a
Sue show ; some superior and perfectly prof Bullocks were
sold at 10s. 6d. per score by weight;
cad, he
ir
quotation for
fat Bullocks was from 535. to 603. per cwt., or from 9s. Gd. to
10s. 6d. per score. The supply of Sheep was not large, and
these were sold at about 6d. per lb. The show of Lambs'
was remarkable for superiority, and • lot of forty, from the
farm of Beery Arthur Bowe, Flaq., Ozenbam, South Taw-
ton, should have especial mention, drawing general atten
tion, and being greatly admired; 245. a-piece was asked for
these prime Lambs.
For Yeaterdny's markets tee last nage.

"PorPatmant for any eater powers than those whisk they
poreseUd ? was then said that if the Lord Lieute
Sant oohed 'air natter powers they would.tome to parliament
for awn; and were they to understand that the Lord Lieu-
'amidst, only on the 18th of July, saw the neceasity fur fur-
ther powers? They bad seen the organisation of those whs.
advocated rebellion ; but had the well-affeoted been orga-
nised, and put in poteetisien ISMS ? In the commencement
of a rebellion organisation was everything. He thought this
measure would now fecilita.e the rebellion. Ile said three
months ago that no men ought to be permitted to carry arms
in the then state of Ireland ; and he did not believe that any
measure whatever would now be likely to prevent the rebel-
lion of the south without the arming of the north.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would not be provoked
by the speech of the noble earl, the only one, he was happy
to say, of that character which had been delirered in either
house. He had chosen a had opportunity to go into details
as to time, as to opportunity, and se on, hut he would assure
the noble tad that on every one of these poits, at a fitting
time, on any day the noble earl chose to name, he would
meet him ou ehalf of the governinent at home and et the
Lord Lieutenbant, between whom and the government at
home there had been the most perfect concert. IL• would
not then say more, as he did not think, even after the speech
of the noble earl, that he intended to obstruct the passing of
the hill, which it wits so important should, as shortly as
possible, become the law of the land.
The Earl of GLEN° A LL sold that a ereat portion of the
Roman catholic clergy were °plaited to this insurrectionary
movement, yet he knew the noun a of many young Roman
catholic priests who were u-giug the people on to rebellion.
The day atter the proelarna•ion in Dublin a reverend gentle-
man in Conciliation-hall told the auditory that the time was
win to strike the blow, and that it should be a death-blow
to the
'-sower of England in Ireland.
At
should t the lime time M
r.
ty'!lrien told the people tat
Snrmiseitdh to tee 150,080 men no rch up from the south of Ire
land to their old. Re would warn the Roman catholic
clergy to be earls.
in acireeing the people to rebellion, es
every revolution in Europe bas: been destructive of the best
interests of the Roman catholic clergy- They should take
warning from the vest t and the-'
youne
urging on the pople to rebellion should know that they
were striking a deathblow at themselves.
The Marqeds of LANSDOWNE, having moved that the
standing orders be suspended, the bill was read a second
time, the committee was negatived, and the bill was then
read a third time and "sassed.
HEALTII OF TOWNS BILL.
Lord CAMPBELL moved the committee on this bill.
The Earl of ELLEN BOHOUGH thought it had been
greatly improved in the select committee.
Lord It ha LIESDALE considered that the proviso which tee
eluded so many works from the operation of the smoke preven-
tion cleave in the bill was unnecessary. He had, however,
been obliged to accede to it.
The ill then passed through committee, and was reported
to the house.
Their lordships adjourned at a quarter to 7 o',lock.

doted to such a state new that it was impossible to live in
the country without running the risk of losing one's life.
The government would flatter themselves, indeed, if they
fancied that fever or famine were at an end. The people
were living at, in many cases, day from week to week.
lie objected to the manner in which the bill for the suspen-
sion of the Habeas Corpus Act was passed The government
had no right to come down to the house and take
away the liberties of the Irish people, their representa-
tives being almost entirely absent from the house, and sulely
on account nt a few madmen having gone about the country
trying to excite the people, and writing some violent articles
in a couple of newspepers. He was lately in the county cf
onaghan, which was stated to be a disturbed county, but
in his opinion the people there lead no arms, and had not the
slightest idea of a disturhance. It see med to him that the
connexion between Ireland and this country was only to be
maintained at the expense of the liberties of the Irish people.
The mivernment, for the purpose of conciliating the people of
Ireland, ought to send back t e them the Irish aristocracy, the
Lib entte proprietots, and the rents which they had taken
away. The Proceedings in that house had di-appointed the
country from year to year. When then the. noble fora found
that the people of Ireland were disconteeted, he came
down to the house with a till to deprive Them of their liber-
ties, and deiOgnated men es traitors who were no more
I traitors than the noble lord himself. The noble lord also
stated that the bill was intended to put down a set of men
1 whose object was plunder. lie repudiated the assertion that
their olject as plunder. Ile was sure that Was not tho
1 flicject ot Mrw. S. O'Brien. He woule assure the house that
'the minds of the Irish people were poisoned by the London'
journals as well as Irish papers. Referring to the measures
for Ireland which were before the house, he said that there
was one which could not pus, another too late, and a third
(the Incumbered Estates Bill)-a bill to enable pauper land-'
loots to sell their overburthened acres-and which would be
of nobonefit to the people of Ireland. The hon.gentleman con-
cluded by stating that there was an attempt made to sow civil 1
anti religious discord in the northern part of Ireland, inso-
much as one of the emptoyes of the Dublin Carole was
known to have artist that it the repealere of that part cf Ire-
land did not abandon the repeal cry they would be given up
orthern Orangemen.
short time i retffee.rruophteadt
theftby a
to
here the e7:iwte Was hoe a
Mituhreersiephirouhmacdtohrepp
...1 Ifiwusds e. .
ps
en,
vnf
e,
ri: Lords,
ni ( fir
bills,
amongst which was
land) Bill, which an-
nouncement produced much cheering.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that he would not follow the hon.
genleen who lost spoke in alludg to lei* observations on
then bills which posted the housein last Saturday. If any-
body dod the necessity which r xisted tor such a
measureubte he had only to read the intelligence which
had arrived that day from Ireland to arrive at the
conclmeion ttat the house was fully justified in passing
it. With reard to wnat fell from the hon. gentleman
Me. Keogh) who brought forward this amendment in refe-
rence to the motives which induced him to leave the house
on Friday night, he should say that he left the house not
through any disrespect to the hon. gentleman or the motion
which he brought forward, but because ho himself had a
HOUSE OF COMMONS.—HONDAY, JULY 21. motion of great importance to bring before the house on the
following morning, and because he hail to react several (locu-
m. 8 AAAAAA took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE. BUSINESS. went-, end to consider well the grounds which he should put
SECOND R
EADINGS.-Newton'get's Quadrant Colonnade Bill. forward for the introduction of so important a meueire. Ile
'Gillett RE.-eos Estate; North Wales Railway knew it would take some time to inspect those documents,
(lucnolettion of tnioncene); Bills. and lie thought he had better leave the house for that per-
lentils' AMENOMiN'fiI CONSIVERED.-Payne's Potent» (im-
provement in reserving veirectiehte m atm.) Bell.
PUBLIC BUSINESS. pose than to attend durinz the remainder of the de-
bate on the hon. gentleman's motion. (Cheers ) With
egetTioSst.-Mr. WARD, nom various parish?' in Kent, aping regard to the motion which the hon. gentleman brought
corona etitiNes in the Poor Belief Bill.- • Mr. MI LN ES, from guard- forward, he did not think that, ia alluding to
ions of Bedminster, in Somenset, in favour of the Insertion of a chop* the ease of Mr. Mitchel, he was justified in a
in the none bill to equalise the ra• ing of the agricultural and town statement that he made, to the effect that the sheriff
variation-sir It. PEEL, front (testi r, complaining that in the opera-
WBll an officer appointed by the crown. Technically, it
times for reclaiming loads in the vicinity of the riser Dee clue mort-
ician had not been made for the navigation of that rieer. The 'telethon. might be said that he was ; but, in feet, he was selected cut
hairnet xcel...coed a hope that the m“nher for hunter would fennel a of three persons named by the Chief Justice. Evidently,
motion en the subject. The AT roits EV-GENERAL also emerald a that was totally different hom his bane an officer selected
petition, from the some place, on the some mire ct, which referred to by the crown. With regard to the conduct sa the sheriff, in
is opinion expresced by the TWA Ilarbour CommisetemernW to thiie his (Lord J. Rewire) belief, the sheriff performed his duty
',1N:j"ri0f,.,;°,07'i',i..7,.:,r4",%:"„en.u'.0r rillArgigyj."fr",;.,"..=!,‘„l,i ionecientiously. But the Met. gentleman said that it was
againntsthe salicrui spirituous
of on Sonclays..-Lord It. litti is- owing to eaving out of the list the names of a great number
VESBilt, from the inierclion+ of the Ilmwell Union, in favour of an of lca, and sodallegi the mimes of certain per
extended system of eneitrration and ouicene,ation. -Mr. CABOWEI.I., sons who were place on the jury list. It was asked ewe
from Liverpool, Signed by the mayor, magtrates, merchants, hank- whether it was intended to prevent catholic' and repcalere
era, and others, hailing with gratitude the hilt or
eutte a step ve
the disorders In Ireland, praying that, as a larg proportion of the from acting u jurymen. lie would *newer-neither one
town of Liverpool WAS Irish, tend that there existed there a similar nor the other wu intended to be omitted Catholics
otranleation by chile., se., as prevailed in Irelorn a similar measure were equally qualified with protestant' to act as jurols
might Ire IKIPIAst for that Man, mil that it might be placed under tin on general questions, and a man's being a repealer did not
protection of the mildewy. clicqualify him ;but this question was with regard to the
81•C°N"ItEAl'IN6'..-11'e P•o'"c" ""'d'a"t C°lcmnade BM` ami offence of a person who declared openly that Ireland ought
referred to a whet committee ;Hum Douce ; Stock-in-Trude Lump- to be separated from England ; that she should be a se-
thail imß:4lTrri:E._l.„,,ii,. ,vo,k, wooot, No. 2f. perate republic • that the. Queen ought to be demised from
iii) Kt: %DING. -•lficetenteered Estates (Ireland) Bill. her authority and title ; and that ouch ami asure sho old be I
NOTICE OF MoTION.-sf.see. Temn-Mr. UhtflUllAßT, tea an acceorop!liched immediately. The queation Was with reg rd
early day, to sulwait a motion condemnatory tit the course taken by to the pertains to he selected to act as jurors in such a case.
the government for the reppreseion of the stave trade. whether or nut they were peons who would do their duty
DUBLIN ELECTION COMMITTEE, in try ng it-in fact whither they were likely to give a ser-
On the motion of Leird R. GROSVENOR, Mr. Babes was diet acceding to the evidence. If the Attorney-G. neral
diecharged from further attendarce on this committee, in thought that there were any mrsons on the jury who were
consequence of the severe illness of a near relative. not likely to mve a verdict ecconliseg to the evidence,
THE I'OOR LAW BILLS, and who were likely to give a while. against the
In angle( r to Mr. I.: wee Hata, evidence, he was pettedly warranted in challenging such
Mr. C. BULLER said it was certainly his intention to p rains. As to the question whether that digerati n was
proceed with the tour bills on this subject which stood on properly used, that was a matter which neither lie nor the
the patter, and to-morrow at 12 o'clock he would take the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland could enter into, for they could'
bill emence:teol with union charges. teat form any judgment a. to the characters of particular in-
Plil V ILEG E. oividuals; hut it was clam that those who published
Mr. ANSTEY withdrew an expression which had been opinions in favour of the offender were not fit persons to try
attributed to him in the reports of his speech ot Friday last his case. (hear. t Such was the case with regard to those
on Mr. ficoeh's motion on packing juries in Ireland, chug- who were left out of that jury. The sheriff wee resoonsible
ing Sir G. Grey with having misquoted teem a ape. eh of Mr. for his conduct ; hut, with respect to the Attorney-General,
Keogh's in 1810.41. If he had used the term mi-quotation he was himself a Horan catholic, add he did not think that
it was under the excitercent of the moment, aggravated by it won to be inferred that he would by any act of his dis-
the interruption to which he was subjected, and not as qualify himeelf from acting as a juror unaer similar eircum
meaning to infer that the right hon. baronet had intention. emcee. These were the olnervatione which he had
ally mis lemma a speech. to make with regard to what the hon. gentleman
Sir G. GREY was obliged to the hon. member for the raid in reference to Mr. kliteleel's trial. lie did not
explanation. hear him state anything particular with regard to the other
OVERCROWDING OF STEAM-BOATS. trials. lie had only then finally to say that he could not
Mr. C. LUSIIINGTON called the attention of the right agree, in the present situation of public attain, to the motion
hon. baronet to the statements whieh have already appeared o the hon. gentleman. Ile did not think that the house
in the daily papers ns to the complaints made to the Lord would be disposed to think that it would be advents •eous to
Mayo in regard to the overcrowding of steam-boats on the enter into an inquiry on this subject; but, in conclusion, he
river. especielly to the recent Reel& nt to the machinery of would state generally, that there was the utmost de-ire on
the Fire King, and the danger to which the passengers were the part of the govt rament, the Lord Lieutenant, and the
xposed, and v, his lordship's statement that he knew of no Attorney•Generel, to give foie trials.
means of putting a atop to the abuse, and that he believed The motion was then put and negatived without a divi-
no remedy would be applied until 400 or 600 people were sion.
sacrificed. He wished to know if government was pre. The house then went into a committee of supply on the
pared to propose any regulation to prevent a danger so
AItMY ESTIMATES.
imminent ? Mr. F. MAULE said that having so fully on a former
Sir 0. GREY had had no notice of the question, and was occasion stated the particulars of the votes for the army, he
not aware that any measure was in preparation. Ile would, should now do no more than simply place in the hands
however, communicate with his hon. friend the President of of the chairman the list of the votes required for his de-
the Board of Trade on the solace. ptrUnent.
A vote of 1,330,8801. was then asked for to defray the
ANNUITY TAR (SCOTLAND).
Mr. HUME. in calling the attention of the how* to the expenses of her Majesty's land forme in Great Britain and
proceedings at Edinburgh on the aril day of July, where tee Ireland, being part of a flan of 3,836,880/., 2,500,000/. of
military were called in, in aid of the civil power, in the col• which had been already voted.
lection of this tax under • warrant of distress, inquire d why EVANS called attention to a petition which
the attempt was not made to levy the distr. ss hy means of he hue recently pregented, complaining of some diradvan-
the civil power at the disposal of the Lord l'rovoet of Edin- age under which retired of
laboured, in consequence
burgh bi fore the military were called in ? of their not being allowed to advance in rank the same as
The LORD ADVOCATE explained the circumstances un- thou on active service.
der which this tax was levied for the support of the clergy of Mr. F. MAULE mid this had always been the case, and
Edinburgh, end the difficulty of collecting it in consequence he had heard no previous complaint on the matter. It
of its unpopularity. In some instances the person of might be a question how far it was advisable to edvance
the der: miter had been seized tor non-payment, and these officers in the way poin'ed out, though it might be
this had increased the unpopularity of the tax; end done without any additional expense. To the officers them•
in the ease in question, in which a respectalee selves he thought it. mattered little. Oct the subject of the
person Was the defaulter, it WU deterrnined to issue dockyard battalions, to which the Eon. and gallant gentle-
s warrnt excitement, which was done ; bet, in consequence man had also alluded, he remarked that they were a most
of the which prevailed (on a former occasion the , tficient branch of the service, but the officers would not
sheriff had attempted a sale, hut had been deforeed and the take rank as officers of the ee, but only as volunso
police put to the rout), it was thought necessary in enet uting officers, and after officers ofli the same rank. Hencete he
it to call in the military, to keep the square in which the thought there would be no difficulty in the two corps acting
goods were sad clear, and as a matter of precaution to pre- together.
vent bloodehed. None of the parties interested, however Sir D. L. EVANS mad the peninsular medals were not
were excluded from the sale. He must, in conclusion, he yet issued. lie hoped that some order would be made by
allowed to express his opinion that the prceent police force government which should permanently regulate the issue of
of Edinburgh was wholly inadequate for its. purpose. medals to the army. The East ledia Company having
Mr. lIUME inquired whether government had it in on • issued medals to the officers in their service, it became de-
templatinn to wept any means of providing for the clergy sit able that the same amulet hue done in the army generally.
so as to prevent these disagree-fat occurrences ? Mr. B. OSBORNE considered that the treatment of the
The LORD ADVOCATE was not aware that any other whole army, especially the officers of the line, with regard
means of paying the clergy were in contemplation than to decorations had been most infamous. The reason was,
those which had existed for more than 200 years. If the neither the government nor the house had any cortrel
hon. gentlemen had any proposition to make tor the purpose over thc Commander in Chief of the Horse Guards.
which should he free from the objection which attached The latter required thoroughly dooming out, end
to the present mode, he should be anxious to give it the he would submit a motion on the subject. At
fullest cansideration. preemit a meritorious officer had not the slightest chance of
STATE OF IRELAND. notice from the Horse Guards. The recent Kaffir war
Mr, S. CRAW FORD, in order tel ascertain the most had been carried wholly through, FO far as the brunt of the
convenient time for bringing forward his motion on the note contest was concerned, by three or four officers, who were
of Ireland, inquired when the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) thanked in every despatch, and that was all. The names of
proposed again to move a committee of supply ? Col. Somerset, Capt. Hogg, and Capt. Biseett, occurred in
Lord J. RUSSELL nroposed to proceed with the motion every desproch ; but they had received no promotion. Un•
for a committee of Replay again on Friday. The hon. gen- der the present system the Under-Secretary of the Colonies I
heman could take either that day or Monday next for his Wan actually Secretary at War, as far as the colonies were '
motion. concerned, for he had the disporal of the whole of the forces '
Mr. S. CRAWFORD would bring on the motion on there. Col. Somerset had received a very flattering test
Friday. monied of gratitude from Major-Gen. Smith, the governor of
ADJOURNED DEBATE ON MR. KEOGH'S' the Cape • and that was all ho had ever re-
MOTION. eeived ; while' such men as Sir H. Bulwer, Mr.
On the order of the day being read for resuming the Trevellyan, and Mr. Chadwick, men of great merit
dehate on this subject on goner into committee of supply. no doubt, were made C.Bee, and one of them was in
Mr. W. FAGAN, in supporting the motion, recapitulated the receipt of 2,5001. a year. (Hear, hear.) Capt. Hogg;
the heads of the statement one charges made by the hon. with his native levies of Hottentote, leyi,d at great private
member tor Attloneon Friday night, and contended that the el
di of his own, had beet. mainly instrumental in con-
right hon. gentleman the Home Secretary had totally fail. a eluding ti e war. This was stated in despatches; he was
to meet them, excepting that which declared that the sheriff thanked by Sir IL Pottinger and Sir P. Maitland ; and yet,
was eppointed by the crown-the fact being that lie was when he came home to the Hone Guards, he was told there
appointed by the judges. As for the charge that 150 per- was neither promotion nor decoration for him. (Hear.)
sons, containing four protestant' far one catholic had been Capt. Bissett was thrown aside in the same way ; the reason
selected front a list of several hundreds, containing two being that the manner in which that war was originally car-
sans,
for one protestant, the right hon, gentle- ried on was not very convenient for the Horse Guards to re-
man had not even attempted a reply. If the sheriff collect. These men ought at least to be made unattached
had selected a panel without reference to the rah. majors, and receive the decoration of C.B. In the Chinese
doss opinions of those who were on the list, and war the services of Capt. Brereton and Gen. D'Aguilar had
considered only their respectability, there would not been similarly neglected. He knew the Secretaryoat•War
now be this contention on the subject, while the people had no power in his case ; but he hoped these remarks wou.d
would be more satisfied that justice had been fairly adenines- be listened to in the proper quarter.
tend. But he went still farther and maintained that the Mr. F. MAULE said that, so far Its he had seen of the
Attorney-General had acted not onlyl
at variance with the Horse Guards, he believed that great fairness was exhibited
instructions of Sir lel, O'Loghlen, but at variance also with saideir management. In this Kaffir war the first person
the principles which ought to govern a public functionary
in to be neglected was Colonel Somerset, an intimate con-
such cases, by setting aside men on account of their political flexion of the person who was said to be all-powerful at the
opinions. lie maintained that the Attorney-General had no Horse Guards. (Hear)
right to set aside men because they were repealer ; for they Mr. OSBORNE.-1 don't believe he is.
I were just as much justified as free subjects in entertaining Mr. MAULE said that any apparent neglect of the officers
I the opinion that the set of union ought amore e reoealed as in the Kaffir war might arise from the whole circumstances
others were in believing that it would be beneficial to not yet being taken into consideration. It all events, it am
to
the country preserve it. If men were to be thus put aside peered the neglect, if neglect there we.e, was not confined
on account of their political sentiments, he did rot hesitate to those of low rank. As to Capt. Hogg, he did not hold
to say that trial by jury would become nothing more than a the rank which brought him within the scope of the decors.
delusion a mockery, and a snare. tions alluded to. On the question of the general manage-
Mr. li. GRATTAN likewise supportedthe motion, taking ment of the army he would not enter into details, as it was
the same view of the duty of the government officers respect. now under the consideration of a committee.
ing the religious and political sentiments of those placed Mr. HUME said thst not one of the reforms in the army
upon the lists, from neither of which did he think they recommended by a commission that sat nine years ago had
ought to be rejected as jurors. He would advise the govern- been
dcarried out, although that com
binet , missionh, wh
made ich c
thomir-
-
ment not to irritate the people further. The people were re- prise of the p caad