The Express.
London, England, 1851-08-01 00:00:00

inTri-CiPOLITAiI SEWERS'BiLL.

This. bill Wall read a third time and passed, after a protest
from Sir B. HALL and Mr. WA LET.

METROPOLITAN INTERMENT BILL.
The house having gone into committee on this bill, on
Clause 1,
Mr. B. OSBORNE wished to know from the Chancellor
of the Exchequer what guarantee he had that the Board
of Health would not seek more money next year? He
thought thy were paying entirely at too dear a rate for
health. In his opinion, the Board of Health should be
abolished altogether. He had no doubt that, in the next
year, they would apply for half a million of money.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUEIt said the
question was net what the hoard might apply for, but what
they would get. (Laughter.) lie admitted the present
system was imperfect and objectionable; but for the pre-
sent, in the absence of a better system, it should not be dis-
pensed with.
Clauses I, 2, and 3 having, after a brief discussion, been
agree I to,
On the question that the bill be reported,
Sir D. HALL protested against the measure, and said he
would take a division on that stage of the bill.
The committee then divided :
)'ur reporting the bill
Against
majority
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ASSIONB'(IRELAND) BILL.
The home having gone into committee on this bill,
Mr. SCULLY objected to the bill being further pro-
ceeded with, as it contained provisions to which the
majority of the Irish members were apposed, one of
which was the power given to a single justice to commit for
twelve months. Ile begged to move that the chairman do
lesvc the chair.

Sir It. FERGUSON also hoped that the bill would not
he proceeded with, as, if fully discussed, it could not be
passed in the present session.
Mr. M'CULLAOII was moat decidedly opposed to the
11th and 10th clauses of the bill. Ile appealed to any hon.
gentleman if he would submit to have his liberty interfered
with fur twelve months, or a heavy fine inflicted upon him,
by the decision of a single magistrate. Such a course
would not be submitted to in England ; then why seek to
enact such a measure for the people of Ireland ?
Sir W. SOM EItVILLE said there was a right of appeal
in all such cases.
After some discussion,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought the
question was whether they should prxesd with the bill or
not. By deciding that question much time would be saved
for other business. (Hear, hear.)
After a conversation,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be
would agree to leave out Section 2 of Clause 10, which con-
ferred a power on a single magistrate to commit for twelve
months, and leaving the law to that respect as it stood at
present.
Mr. SCULLY then withdrew his motion.
Clause 10 was then agreed to, and
The CHAIRMAN reported progress.
ATTORNEYS AND SOLICITORS' REGULATION
ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
LAW OF EVIDENCE AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was read a third time, and passed.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH BILL.

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Sir C. BURRELL opposed the introduction of the town
of Worthing.
Mr. BASS thought the town of Worthing should be in-
cluded, as if not the place would become deserted.
Lord M. HILL said that though in the habit of repairing
there yearly with his family, he was obliged to leave the
town ft,A year in consequence of its insalubnty owing to the
absence of sanitary regulations.
After a conversation the several clauses were agreed to.
CROWN ESTATE PAVING BILL.
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This bill passed through committee.
GENERAL BOARD OF HEALTH (No. 4) BILL.
This bill was read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted to-morrow (this day) at 12 o'clock.
The sitting of the house was then, at a quarter after 3,
suspended to a quarter after 5 o'clock.
The SrsActa resumed the chair at a quarter•past 5.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.

Cal:101 lit 11118013; 167eiii.DWELL, from!
Liverpool, in favour of the Church Buildings Act Amend
meet Bill.
CRYSTAL PAL CE.—By Sir B. HALL, from 15,000 in-
habitants of Mareebone ; Mr. G. F. YOUNG, from Sear-
borough ; Mr. GitENIELL, from Preston ; Mr. LANG-
' STON, from Oxford ; Mr. AGLIONBY, from Cocker-
nunith ; Sir WILLIAM GIBSON CRAIG, from Swansea;
is favour of the preservation of the Crystal Palace.
Now HOUSE Itf. Commoss.—By Mr. GREENE, from
Dr. Reid, complaining that his professional character was
affected by what hod taken place in the new House of
COMMOOP. and setting forth that his apparatus was not cora-
OOP, awl that in the present unfinished state of the house
be was not to be blamed for the draughts which were felt.

they pleased.
Mr. ANSTEY opposed the bill, which, under certain
circumstances, he contended, would be compulsory.
Mr. NEWDEGATE and Mr. FItEWES; urged the pospone-
ment of the bill.
Mr. CARTER suggested eases in which the enactments
of the bill might work unfairly, to the benefit of ecclesiasti-
cal corporations and to the prejudice of lessees.
Sir T. E. COLEBROOKE objected that the bill did not
define the principle of commutation.
Tho SOLICITOR-GENERAL observed that the objee-
tions went to the clauses of the bill, not to its principle
which was this—the lessees had now no power of enfran-
chisement from any body except the ecclesiastical commis
sinners in respect to property vested in them. By this bill
they might be enfranchised; but there was nothing in it to
prevent the renewal of leases, if this were desired ; all the
bill did was to enable the parties, lesser and lessees, if they
saw fit, to put the management of the property upon a new
footing.
Mr. HENLEY and Mr. BARROW wished the bill tolo
postponed until next session, to afford time for considering
its provisions.
Lord PALMERSTON suggested that those who ob-
jected to the details of the bill should allow it to be
read a second time, in order that it might be committed,
and go to the euuntry with any amendments adopted in the
committee.
After a few words from Mr. 11. Denison, Mr. Forster,
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Agliouby, and Lord
Palmerston,
The house divided—
Fur the second reading
Against it
Sir B. HALL complained that hills affecting the tempo-
ralities of the church were generally, as in the present ease,
introduced at nn advanced period of the session. In a former
session bills of this description were brought in in July and
August. The report of the commissioners recommended
that the office of a dean should be abolished when it was
held by a bishop, but the bishop who held the office of a
dean was installed in the latter office in the
month of August, a day or twe before the
bill affecting hint passed, ir. order to act aside
the legislation of parliament. Time ought, therefore, to be
afforded to consider such measures. He hoped the house
woulo carefully consider the hill, upon the distinct under-
standing that it should not be read a third time until next
session.
7Col. SIIITIIORP characterised the present as a most un-
justifiable attempt on the part of the government to force
on a measure of great importance without evidence.
Mr. AGLIONBY said the question now before the house
was, whether the hill should be committed to-morrow.' He
would endeavour so to improve the clauses as to render
them satisfactory to the lessees, and, if he failed in that
matter, then he would call upon the government to with-
draw the bill for the present session.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was willing
to make improvements in the measure, but observed that
its principle would give greater compensation to the lessees
than they had ever yet received.
Mr. J. A. SMITH approved of its principle, but took
exception to some of its details.
Mr. SPOONER also approved of its principle, but ob-
jected to the details.
It was then agreed that the bill should be committed to-
morrow.
NEW ZEALAND SETTLEMENTS BILL.
This bill, as amended, was considered and agreed to.
LUNATICS (INDIA) BILL.
This bill, as amended, was also considered and agreed to.
CANADA AND NSW BRUNSWICK BOUNDARY
BILL.

This bill was read a thirdtime.
CANTERBURY ASSOCIATION BILL.
This bill was read a second tiros.
NUISANCES REMOVAL AND DISEASES PRE-
VENTION BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill haying passed through committee and several
amendments agreed to, the house resumed, and afterwards
resolved itself into committee on
THE SUMMARY JURISDICTION (IRELAND)
BILL.

The various clauses of the bill, after having been slightly
amended, were agreed to.
The house resumed.
COLLECTION OF FINES (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill as amended was considered, and ordered to be
read a third time on the following (this) day.
CONSTABULARY FORCE (IRELAND) BILL.
On the order of the day for going into committee on this
bill,
Mr. CONOLLY presented a petiticn from the grand jury
of Donegal, in favour of the bill.
The house then went into committee on the bill.
Mr. F. FRENCH said a more unjust measure than this
was never proposed. The object was to abolish the office of
paymaster of the constabulary in Ireland. So long as the
' salary was paid by Ireland there was no thought of aboli-
tion, but when the expense was thrown on the consolidated
fund the government contemplated reduction. There were
persons in Ireland wbo held the office of paymaster of the
police force, all of whom had broken up their establishments
to accept it. Ile wished to see the bill fall to the
ground, and trusted that in the next session justice would
be done to the gentlemen who were to be dismissed. A
great many cases of individul hardship might, in the mean-
time, be brought before the Treasury.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
officers in question were, in fact, never paid by the Irish
counties, but always paid out of the consolidated fund,
therefore, the observation of his hon. friend on that subject
was without foundation. (Hear, hear.) The government
; had dealt with these officers as they dealt with public offi-
cers in England and Scotland ; when they found that they
could get their duties performed at a cheaper rate thee
felt themselves at liberty to discontinue their services. Ire
agreed that there ought to be some consideration for offi-
cers when they were dismissed, but that had been done in
the present case which was done in all similar cases. Two
or three years ago he offered to put these officers on the
superannuation fund. They were unwilling to submit to
the reduction—(hear, hear)--declined to be put on the
superannuation fund, and, but for a clause in the bill, they
would have no compensation at all. He did not know the
particular cases, but the same principle would be applied to
these officers as to others whose offices were abolished.