The Express.
London, England, 1853-08-02 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 2, 1853.

The SPEAKER then put the question, namely, that hs
be " discharged on payment of the feed." (Laughter.)
The motion was agreed to.
THE NEW MODE OF TAKING DIVISIONS.
The SI'EAKER announced that every preparation had
been made for carryiug out the wishes of the house, with
regard to the new mode of taking divisions ; and with their
permission he would read the rules he had laid down and
which he hoped would be found satisfactory—" When the
house is about to proceed to a division the Speaker will
direct strangers to withdraw ; upon which the Sergeant will
see that the mats below the gallery and in the front gallery
are clear. The clerk at the Nile will then turn the sand-
glue, and as soon as the sand has run out the Speaker will
call ' Order,' preparatory to putting the question. Upon
his calling Order,. the Sergeant-at-Arms will half close
the door, and keep it half closed as long as there are mem-
bers in sight approaching the door of the house. When no
member is in sight the Sergeant will close the door and
lock it, and the Speaker will then put the question." (Hear.)
LANDLORD AND TENANT (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill was read a third time.
On the motion that it do pass,
Mr. CAIRNS proposed the omission of certain words
from the 25th clause.
Mr. KEOGH consented, and the amendment was agreed

to.
Mr. GOOLD proposed the omission of the words " not
exceeding one acre, in the 9th and 10th clauses, the effect
of which was to remove the limit to distraint imposed by
the clan-e.
The amendment was negatived without a division.
Viscount MONCK moved the omission of the word:,
" Growing corn, grass, hops, and root. fruits, and other
produce," from the 71st clause. He said that on a former
occasion be had expressed the opinion that they might safely
do away with the power of distraint for rent. It was still
more objectionable wt en exercised on growing crops. 'lbis
right never existed at all in Ireland till it was created by
statute about thirty years ago. It had been subsequently
repealed in consequence of the report of the Devon Com-
mission. What be now proposed would not deprive the
landlords of any right they possessed. It was, in fact, a
conservative proposition—that things should remain as they
were. No a. gument in favour of restoring the right of
distress on growing crops could be drawn from any dis-
orders which had occurred in Ireland. He would rather
see the bill lost than have it carried with the power re-
ferred to.
The house then divided. The usual order was
,given by the Speaker, Strangers must with-
draw ;" but in consequence of the adoption of the
recommendations of Mr. Muntz committee, only the lower
gallery, that usually occupied by peers or distinguished
foreigners, was cleared, and the bulk of the strangers, as
well as the representatives of the press, were allowed to
retain their seats. This being the first division that has
taken place under such circumstances, it was watched with
greatinterest from the galleries ; and when the house was
completely cleared, the effect was very striking. The divi-
sion occupied about eight minutes, the house being a com-
paratively thin one. When the members had resumed
their seats the four tellers—Lord Monek, Mr. G. Hamilton,
Mr. Apeley Pellatt, and another hon. gentleman—walked
up to the front of the table, and Lord Monde, add g
the Speaker, said—" The ayes, to the left, are 70 ; the ricies,
to the right, 94."
The result was—
For the amendment 1,4
Against it
Mr. KEOGH then proposed to amend the clause by in-
serting the words "except growing crops," after "goods
and chattels."
After a conversation, in which Mr. CAIRNS, Mr. FITZOZ-
RALD, and Viscount MONCK took part,
Some other amendments were agreed to.
The motion was agreed to, and the bill passed.
TENANTS' COMPENSATION (IRELAND) BILL.
The bill having been read a third time,
Mr. KEOGH brought up a clause giving time to the
tenant. if proceedings for eviction be taken, to establish his
claim for compensation for improvements made.
Mr. CAIRNS thought it would be sufficient to leave the
tenant the opportunity of establishing his claim after evic-
tion, without allowing him to remain in pouessioz for that

purpose.
Mr. KEOGH said the clause was proposed at the instance
of the right hon. and learned gentleman the member for
the University of Dublin. It war not intended to stay the
proceedings under the process of eviction until the claim
for compensation was proved, but the proceedings in both
eases would go on together.
After a few words from Mr. GROGAN and Mr. SCIMLY,
The house divided—
For the clause ll3
Against it 32-79
Sir A. B. BROOKE protested against the manner in
which Irish property was voted away in that house.
The clause was added to the bill.
Mr. MACARTNEY moved the omission of clause 14.
The house divided—
For the motion

Against it lO6-75
Mr. kEOGH moved a proviso to this clause, to the
effect that within twelve months after the passing of the
bill tenants should give notice of any retrospective improve-
ments for which they claimed compensation.
Mr. BRADY proposed that the terms should be two years
instead of one. (Hear.)
The hone divided—

For the amendment 3G
_ _ _

Against
Serjeant SHEH appealed to Mr. IL•ogh to withdraw his
proviso. (Hear, hear.) He (Solemn Shee) had been
greatly !pleased by the readiness of tie government, during
the melon, to adopt outside suggestions, on good cause
being shown; and they were clearly wrong, and at variance
with the opinion of the majority, on this point. (lieu.)
The committee divided—
For the proviso
Against - 35-72
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The prone* was accordingly agreed to, and the bill read
a third time.
MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL.
This bill was read a third time, and several clauses were
loroght up and added to it.
Mr. HUTT moved—" To leave out clauses 33, 31,
mad 35, relative to seamen volunteering into the navy, and
to submit in lieu thereof the following clause : Whereas it
is expedient that seamen should no longer be permitted to
desert the vessels in which they are engaged for the pur-
pose of entering her Majesty's service, be it enacted that
the fiftieth and fifty-first sections of the act of the eighth
year of her present Majesty, chapter 112, shall be repealed;
and it shall not be lawful for any officer in her Majesty's
service knowingly to permit or eacnurage any seaman to
leave the vessel in which he is engaged ; and every seaman
leaving his ship and entering into her Majesty's service
shall be liable to all the penalties ,of desertion, any
law or custom notwithstanding."
Mr.CARD WELL said that the house should bear in mind
that every provision which the bill contained was for the
benefit of the shipowners. The only question between the
hnn. gentleman (Mr. Hutt) and the government was this,
whether the power of receiving volunteers from the mer-
cantile marine should be placed under strict control, or
whether it should be entirely abolished ?
Sir J. GRAHAM should be extremely torn if the house
were induced to part with this valuable pnvilege. This
right had been recognised by statute from the commence-
ment of the reign of George 11. to the present time,
and had been in constant use. The abuses had been pro-
gressively modified, and, he might say, were entirely
rectified by the bill they were now discussing, and the bill
provided a remedy for the principal evils of which com-
plaint had been made.
The house then divided upon the question that the clause
be read a second time, and the result was—
Ayes 49
Noes

The clause was thershee lost.
Captain SCOBBLL moved the insertion of the following
clause :—" Whereas many vessels are sent to sea ineffi-
ciently manned, to the danger of life and sacrifice of pro-
perty, and much incertitude has arisen respecting the
proper number of hands to be carried for the due naviga-
tion of vessels ; and whereas, since the repeal of the 37th
clause of the Merchant Seamen's Act,a large number of ships
I have been sent to sea without a boy or apprentice on board,
be it enacted that, from and after the passing of this act, it
shall not be lawful for any Custom house officer or other
person to grant clearance to any agent, owner, muter, or
broker, for the sailing of a British vessel out of any port in
the United Kingdom or Channel Isles, with a urge, or in
ballast to a foreign port, either in the foreign, home, trad-
ing, or coasting trades, unless it be shown to the satisfac-
tion of the officers of her Majesty's customs, by the atticles
signed by the officers and seamen, that such vessel is
manned after the following rate :—Vessels of the burden of I
100 tons register, computed by new measurement, one duly'
indentured apprentice above the age of 12 years and under
21 years of age, such apprentice to be bound for not less
than three years, and one boy to every additional 100 tens,
with one master, officer, seaman, or proper person to every
25 tons complete, or four seamen to every 100 tons ; pro-
vided always that an apprentice who has served fur a full
term of three years on shipboard, and who is above 17
years of age, may count for one seaman when the number
of apprentices and boys does not exceed one to every 100
tons ; and owners wishing to carry men in largo vessels in-
stead of boys may compute their crews after the ensuing
scale—that is to say, in vessels above 200 tons, nine seamen
for every 200 tons above the first 100 tons—namely, on board
a ship of 300 tons, for example, 13 seamen and one appren-
tice (master and officas included)."
Mr. CARDWELL declined to go over the ground which
had been discussed in a former debate.
The house divided.
For the clause
Against

Mr. HORSFALL moved the following clause which
stood on the paper in the name of Mr. Collins :—" That
where any seaman or apprentice, who shall have com-
mitted any offence punishable under ' The Mercantile
Marine Act, IMO,' by summary proceeding before a justice
of the peace, shall arrive or be found on shipboard within
two miles orally borough in which there is a justice of the
peace capable of exercising summary jurisdiction under the
said act, such offence shall, for the purpose of giving jutis-
diction to such justice under the said act, be deew,ed to
have been committed within the limits of such boroush."
After a few words from Mr. it. PALMIER., the ctuuse wen
negatived without a division.
Mr. CAIRNS moved the following amendment on clause
4, so that from line 31 it should stand as folio ,--" And
such aggregate fund shall be applicable to t'oe purposes of
the servicis in respect of which the said t 311 a, rates, re, s,
and payments are levied, and to the exe';utiun of works
necessary or expedient for permaneutly reducing the ex-
pense of such services, and save, Se h'ereinafter specially
mentioned, to nolother purposes whitey er." By the clause
as it stood the Board of Trade woules be obliged to apply
the funds for the construction or maintenance of lislit.