The Express.
London, England, 1848-05-09 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY

IMPERIAL PARLIAbIEN't,
HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY, MAY 8.
The LORD Caewonewa took his mat at 6 o'elock.
PUBLIC ll
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PIIITIONA.—By the Vart of tlerrotx, from Llvetweeli Men.
Obeiter• Cheilea. awl ether per; Lard Campeau, from plum In
party, Forfar, Lend" Donee ems erdoei
.11114 Penh. 14°4ung-hili.
Ades, waling, Ckithmt, Bresder. Ildt Kersingon. Fee-
row, Woodstock, mid ether Owes ; Wed Ma& from Ohms In
Illefiifliehire • the Duke et Cu, anus re from this:rune:l of Durlaant
tbe railer as LOLINIOS, from Norwich, &to" the 8 of Glasgow,
Delved," Kirealdr, rift sag other *roe; Meorraigat• and
Dori BILAVNIONT, 6'OlM several plasm, net heard; the Bishop of se.
Davie's, from professore and stedeiste of the Collet of Lampettr ;
Igard lilaaAlla, from several
gas
sot heard—ad favour of the
Jewish Disabilities Bill—Petit lee against the bill were presented by
elke Duke of trucetzurn. from leillaugh end Annan; and tape by
ot wiwerilerea, from several orates•sot beard.—The Sart &us-
VON, bow Glasgow, as the satilsot of the Navigation Laws.
JEWISH DISABILITIES BILL.
In Tey to a question from Lent STAN LaT,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE filed the second reading
of this bill for Thursday the 25th inst., with the under-
standing that it would definitively come on.
LAW RSFORM.
Lord BROUGHAM withdrew his notice o
ffice for the
f motion on
this subject for the 16th, and gave a fresh
12th inst.
Lord CAMPBELL hoped to proceed with the Criminal
Law Administration Bill oat the 12th inst. •
PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGSadingL BIL.
this
Lord STANLEY postponed the second re of
keit to this day week.
AFFAIRS OF SPAIN.
Lord STANLEY said ho must detain their lordships for a
abort time whilst he referred to the subject of
had dismission
laid
on
Friday night last. Her Majesty' ministers since
won the tsble of their lordshim'
reference to Spain. Ile had
sin intention of submitting a motion on the subject, but,
Leaving perusal that correspondence, he could not refrain
from stating the impression which it bait produced on
ave his
mind. Tne noble margins (Lansdowne) sr
seen labouring under a singular error the other nay in &Uri-
instins the pub:tratioo of the letter trom ,he Secret of
Foreign Affairs to Mr. Bulwer to a French newspam wind
-in stating that he did not know how that paper got hold of
We document, a most important part of which it had sup-
pressed. Now, it appeared from the statement of that sews. !
paper itself that the first time it got into its columns was
on the 2.lth of April ; whilst the Duke of Sotomayor had
complained of its appeari, kingin a Spanish paper en the 10th
of that month. Upon linking at the letter itself, as it was
emer printeddie thought it had not been mutilated. The
COMMunication of the noble viecount (Palmerston), which
remmenced the correspondence, began by saying, ' I have
to instruct you to recommend earnestly to the Tante flo.
ternment, and ta the Queen-Moth r, if you shou d have an
opportunity of doieg so, the adoption of • legit' and consti-
eltional course," &c. Now, 'it appeared to him, inasmuch
es Mr. Bulwer could easily have an opportunity of cornmu-
: ricating to the Spanish government the noble viwount's
despatch, hut might not be able to do so to the Queen-
other, that the words "if you should have an opportu-
nity of doing an " spniied exclusively to the latter, and lied
to reference to the Spanish government. (Hear,
tear.) It appeared to him by this correepoadence,
first of all, that there was a great difference
of opinion between the British moister in Spain, and the
Secretary for Foreign Again in this country; and seconely,
that there was a still wider difference between the sentiments
nohle eiwount and his colleagues. The reply of the
Ouke of Sotomayor silted that he did not undentatid what
he letter meant by recomu.ending the adoption of a legal
cud constitutional count, because at the time it was written
au Imelda had not taken place, and the Spanish ministers
were following a strictly constitutional mode of government.
What was the answer of Mr. Bulwer ? He admitted the
justice of the observation; he acknowledged that the com-
munication of the noble viscount was made before the go-
vernmeat had taken any step of an whiner, character, but
said it was intended to refer to a state of things which
might erne. The noble viscount, however, hid not said
d
anything about a state of things which might arise ;
he
. given his Meruction with reference to the actual, and not
lho future, state of things. Mr. Bulwer was, however,
Obliged to admit to the Duke of Sotomayor that his snt•
sent was good; that the noble viecount had no mason for
doing what be had done at the time at which he did it; tea
the opportunity had arisen, and he availed himself of it.
But a more important fact wee disclosed, and one wc
their lordships and the country would require to bare af hi
full
esidanation of. He meant the different view taken by
members of tile government on this subject. (Hear, hear.)
He had mistaken the noble marquis the other night if he did
oot 111,%t the whole of bit case on this fact: that the later of
Lord Palmerton was a private letter to the British minister
at and ought not to have been shown; and
hr stated explicitly that he lamented the mune which
Mr. Bulwer Ind adopted. The leading minister in
tee House of Lends, stated that le " lamented" the course
pursued by a minister of the crown, and, by so saying,
he meant that such conduct was not justifiable, and he vir-
tually passed his censure upon it. (Hear, hear.) He (Lord
Stanley) expressed a doubt whether that letter had ever beets
seen by the noble marquis (Lensdownel or the noble
to it,
earl
(Grey). Why. at the time the stable marquis referred
was about
on Friday night, he was not ongnisant of what he
to lay on their lordship" table ; he was not aware
th that the
British minister in Spain had, upon the fa of docu-
ments now before them lordships, received the entire and
coial approval of Lord Palmerston. The letter from Mr.
Henri Lytton Bulwer was dated April the 7th, and there
was another of the .1 Ith of the same month. On the 19th.
end also on the 20th. the noble viscount (Pelmenton)
had written to Mr. Bulwer, and in both despatcees
approved of his conduct. In one he s
aid" Her
bjests
government likewise approv ed of e otwhic you ad-
dressed on the 7th icstant to the Spanish Minister fur Foreign
Affairs." N ow, be would leave it to the noble marquis to
explain that extraordinary fact. 'Hear, hear.) The letter
of the 11th, from Mr. Bulgier, enclosed also the despatch from
the Doke of Setemayor ; and the answer again of Viscount
Palmerston to th was most extraordinary production. Ile
said, "1 have received your despatches," and not " I approve
of the course y itehaveladopted; but " I have to instruct you
to state to the Duke of Sotomayor that her Majesty'the s go-
vernment entirely approve of your 7th
instant, and of your note of the 12th instant ;" and thereby
,e took upon himself to throw upon her Majesty's govern-
ment the whole responsibility of the language, tone,
end manner of the correspondence. Ile tookment a cours
ine
which he involved her Majesty's gover
kte entire responsibility of a most offensive proceeding.
list, in his attempt to place the correspondence on a more
emimble toning, he exhibited a degree of Christian forbear-
ance which would have been creditable in a private indivi-
dual, but which was quite inconsistent with the representa-
tive of a great power. (Hear, hear.) What did he say ?
flavieg his dispatches returned in a manner which one gen-
tleman would not tolerate from another, he said " Go and
till the Duke of Sotomayor that I entirely approve of the
course you Nava adopted , but her Majesty's government are
cwt et all offended." Thus /4xpond yourself to insult,
you got a kick, and then to say that you entirely
approved of the course which induced ir, and tell the person
et the same time that you Vitt* not the least
and offenludicrous
ded with
Lim. (Liughter.) It was a most absurd
answer to es imprudent a step as he ever heard of. The
iieble viscount went on to conclude the correspondence
by reminding the Minister for Foreign Affair!, whom
he was addressing, that in certain circumstances, mi-
kes Great Britain had interfered, he (that foreign
suinistcr), instead of being the minister of his sovereign,
v:ould Lava been a proscried exile on a threaten shore. This
seeded no comment. Heb
er ished he could see a satisfactory
',sue to wok aeon, spaneence. But he thought he should be
ermsed for calling attention to the suteect—(bear, hear)—
end alioee all, that house and the country had a right to
I.rsoW whether the conduct of Mr. Bulwer, in taking the
s.ttp • hich lie had adopted, was considered by the govern-
,:nut to be imprudent, if rot indiferoible ; and whether the
,able viscount the Secretary for Foreign Affairs had not
4-lien upon hi:tacit, in the name of the government, to say
that it was a pneeeding which hcd their entire approval.
(Hear, hear.)
The Marron of LANSDOWNE, who spoke in slow tone,
Red was most indistinctly heard, was understood to say, that
it was intended Mr. Bulwer should exercise his own discre-
tion on the subject lie did nut believe he had communica-
led the
Duke deep to
Duke of Satch a Spanish newspaper before it was known
e thetenneyor. regretted that it
had been made to that distingui•hld individual ; but Mr.
Bulwer, from his great knowledge of the affairs of Spain,
, se, 0. have had reasons for making the communication of
had
an
i-eperative character. As to the approbation which
beet, eignified of Mr. Ili.laer's conduct. it was necessary
latherexpiese spa
latter or disapptoval of it; and if the
latter CO,ITit had boon adopted he must have been recalled.
That was ClUffie the governmect were rr.t prepared to
became they did not think it desirable to make this
re e subject of
to eminent quarrei. Thee: die not, how-
, .cr, think fit to give a. species ni triumph to
the Duke of Sotomayor after the Linguae° which
ho had need, and the answer was accordingly
milt to Mr. Bulwer to be communicated to the Spanish
oeinister. From what had einee taken place he knew that
all unpleasant feeling between the parties had been re-
moved. (Hear, hear.) Toe noble lord had said that the I
cemmunication was made at a period when arbitrary measures
Lad not been taken ; but it was iotended to leave the matter
to Mr. 13ulwer's discretion, with a view to p Trevenheret the
adoption of such measures. ( lieu, hear.) must
lave been samething to lead eit noble friend to suppose
that the affairs of Spain would take the tonne which he was
P.lliollll to prevent, and therefore he was justified in the
advice which he tenderce. That advice was given in a
epirit of goeie ill to the
peace of tri Spanish g overnmrnt, and from an
1,10(ious desire that the o country and the strength
of the government might be maintained; not from a
v.ieh to interfere in the affairs of Spain in any other tense
Ilion to promote the prosperity of that ceuntry. It was a
&Dui co of satisfaction to him t i consider that an amicable
• feeling had been restored ; Mr. Bulwee'v recall had not
been demanded ; and therelore he trusted their lordships
wou.el not think it net-wary to !Clive a eant
respect to the merits of the proceeding. 'Hew.) roversy with
The Earl of ABERDEEN did not think much &serra-
tion necessary on the explanation of the noble marquis. lie
die not, however, seem entirely to mew in the course which
Lad been adopted. kie admitted cite him that it would
I.ave been most unjust to have abandoned Mr. Bulwer, he-
t e lie had certainly [tetra onerdivg to the spirit of the
instructions which he bad received. (Hear. -hear.) He
was a most able servant of the crown, and he had no doubt
Oen Mr. Butner knew perfectly well what he was about
when he male the cemmunicetion to
to the Dukeelt pe of Soto-
tot
mayor. (Hear, hear.) Ile appeared lave
ation of hi!
trf
cenftdenee that he should meet with the epemb
• goy. rnment, and when the noble =argue- said it wee lee. hi
Lit discretion he curdy could not bay c ri:.ad the contutunieetion

very. cerefully. If there had been a comma betweenofth letter
the wade
~gymnasia " "end" lathe opening sentence e
it would have removed all doubt as to the pelage " If you
shall ham an
ther.rtni of doiag stisellthg only to
the queen-Mo (Hear, hear.) Mr. Bulwer lad no
occasion to seek en opportunity of communicating with the
Spanish government—it sou his right to do so ; but he had
no right to put himself in communication with the Queen-
Mother. (Hear, hear.) That such was Mr. Dews?'" idea
was evident from his reply is which he said, " In con-
formity with your lordship a Instructions I took the oopor-
tunity of communicating to the Spanish gaernmes t, ie."
It Wan to
that it wee not desirable to give an apparent
triumph to the Duke of Sotonteyor by witholding an expres-
sion of approbation from Mr. Bulger. That might do
very well after the noble viscount had received the answer
of the Spanish tainiatrar, but it 90 happened that the appro.
as were expremed before that reply had been received. '
(Hear, hear.) lie was anxious te know how the renewal
use
of friendly feeling bad been brought Meat, beca
he regarded the answer of the Spanish minister se a moat
serious affair. e had had some experience in matters of
that sort, but beghad never before heard of the despatch of a
British minister being returned as unfit to be received or re-
tained. (Hear, hear.) It was the first time, he thought,
that a British minister had been subjected to such an indig-
nity. (Rear, hear.) If it had not been for the discumion
in their lordships' house Mr. Bulwer might have had his
approbation in his pocket, but he would have met with the
disapprobation of the whole country ; but new it would be
seep, if censure was due, that it attached to those who
adopted the step which led to such a communication bei
hand
made. lie fully expected that the suggestion which
been thrown out the other night by his noble friend (Lor bed
Stanley), as well ea from something which knew to
going on at Madrid, :would have been adopted.offer led
ie
thought there would have beau an explanation
by the British government, that they did not in•
tend to interfere in the luternal affairs of Spain, and
then the offensive communications on both eider would be
withdrawn. That would have been the proper °our« ; bu'
the whole matter was marked by such frivolity es surprised
him; and he was at a tomato know how any noble lord, with
the raviy of the mtter before him, could have brought it
es such a tterminationa. (Hear.) lie thought Me. Bawer
bad left it much better than it Row stood, within so long ni
gwoquewinding up. (Hear, hear.) It was quite indispen-
'able that some understanding shoude come to with the
Spanish government with a view Whet at rest this most ob-
jectionable proceeding, for although we had drawn it on our-
selves, yet we had received such an insult es had never
belie
en
inflicted on any government before. (lar, hear.)
would for a moment refer to the language used by the noble
The noble
eissount who bad been so justly complained of.
Wei said :
The recent downfall of the King of the French and his family, and II
the expulsion of his minisitfm, ought to Indicate to the Spanish
inventr
end government the danger to which they expose theinselreis
deprouring to govern a Counti7 in a manner opposed to the eend-
ments and opinions of the nation ; and the catastrophe which has just
occurred in trance is indecent to show that even a numerous and
well-dbdptined ern, offers only as insufficient defence t the crown,
when the system followed be it is not In harmony aith the general
system of the muntry. The'Queen of Spats would art wisely In the
present critical state of affairs if she were to strengthen her mean-
dee government, by widening the hales on which the
men in admiwhom the
nistration
repose", and in caning to her councils some of the
liberal party places conadence.
If that meant anything it meant an approbation of the re-
If
which had taken place in France. (Hear, hear.)
It was not consistent with good feeling, in a fortnight afterthe
the arrival of that unfortunate prince (the King of
Fiench) and his family in this kingdom, to hold him up m
a warning to the Spanish government. And it was not true
—it could not be said that hi was governing France Ice " a
manner opposed to the sentiments and opinion' of the na-
tion." Tne feeling' of the people were expressed in the only
legitimate way in which they could be made known, namely,
by a government majority in th his chambers. 'But sup-
pose this wee so—iuppose the noble viscount's representation
to be correct, and it had te en so stated to G, ner.l
Nereus, he might at once hens said, "If the King
of the French had allowed his able, upright,
and courageous minister to act as I have done,
he would still have been on the throne of France." General
Narvaez had put down the attempt at revolution by mean'
which, unfortunately for himaelf, the King of the French ab-
stained from using. It was therefore no argument as to
what might have been done by firm resistance. (Hear.)
lie must also say that the time chosen for giving his advice
was most inopportune, it being just after the Spanish go-
vernment had put down an attempt at insurrection. (Hear.)
But objectionable as the communication was it could not
have been expected to produce such an answer. (Hear.)
Much depended on the feeling existing between the party
who made the communication and the individual who re-
ceived it. Ile should
toe;bae had no difficulty in giving advice
through Lord Cowley .°e lm:, because of the frii
feeliog which existed between them, and this comenunis
cation, if it had been made by • friend, might hare
been differently received, d but it was offere withouhear.)t the
shadow of a hope of its being accepted. (Hear,
Suppose that our interference had led to a change M
ministry, and that national calemith had followed this
change, we should clearly have in such case been reaponsibse
to Europe fur those calamities. He denied that the inter-
ference Ti the government in the recent case was called for
by any existing treaty. He considered it the duty of the
government of Great Britain to establish • friendly under-
rending «ith the Spanish government of a clear, straight
forward character, and to be no louder influenced in any 110.
groe by what should now be the dissipated bugbear of Frew!
influence, i
IC
Lord BROCOMANI expressed his gratificati torus
that friendly relations were once more
arre tiedestablis between ,
this country and Spain, and suggested that the ql beige
now over, the less reference there was mode to it the hi tter.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY fully concurred in tbs
noble lord's quailicatioe that the misunrientanding between ,
England and Spain, occasioned by the unwarrautable inter.
tercets in Spanish alLiss of our Secretary for Foreign
Affairs, was now dissipated. lie felt compelled, neverths-
less, to denounce the conduct of the noble secretary in
meddling as be did with everything and everybody, a mania
which had involved him in the perfectly natural dislike and
distrust of every court of Europe.
The Marquis of CLAN ItICARDE contended that it wee
unjust to denounce se gratuitous meddling the conduct of
his noble friend in directing our minister at Madrid discret tly
to give, when occasion should arise, such advice to a friendly
government as the noble lord, under the circumstances,
deemed it well for that government to have, not dictated,
but suggested to it. The only error in the matter was an
error of judgment on the part of Mr. Deliver, in the mode
of tendering the advice at a peculiarly critical moment.
The subject then dropped. and their lordship s then ad-

josrn-ed.
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I HOUSE OF CMONS.—oNDA .
The Sraanaz tookM M
the chair at 4 o'clock.Y,
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
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PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS.--By Mr. NCtiusediii. or a place not hesrd, in
favour r.f granting incorporation privileges to societies of o.l.lfrhows;
from Glasgow, in favour of granting eites for free churches, in Scot-
land.—Sir W. ItowcaviLts, Irmo the hoard of guardians of Bells,
praying for an 'lteration in the hid. poor law.--Mr. W terrify from
certain pawnbrokers, praying for indemnity in case of plunder during
riot. and disturbancee.—tiir T. Risen, from the pawnbrukersof Liver-
pool. to the sane effeck—Mr. Wserso, from Notnnahron, against the
'window dirt
r. J. B. Sow n, from Falkirk, against the Scotch law
of entail. —Mr.
frontDryoon Wont Staffordshire. agilmt the game laws.
—Mr. USW:HAUT, r ltßaffurd, against the Health of totem Bill.—
Mr. 1111.1.1150, from the Weeleyan4 of htchaven, against tbr sale
of son:amnia Inenofi of tday..- • Lord DuNC.LS, from Badr, against
the Health of Towns Brit.—Lord Ammer, from litHampite and tit bite.
chapel (p, in favour of the Health of Tonna hill.—Mr m. froni a
religious congregation at Arbroltb, against the Kik• of spirits on sun.
days.—Mr. ViA3a, a, from the Mirliail and Chit urytiralSociely, against
the Health ot Tow'. Bil.—Mr. too,. in i , from n place not heard;
and Lord Mouegru, trout strunford, in tavour of the Health of Towns
818.
OLIMMITTEL—rubIie Stealth Bill.
REPORT.—itelnoval of Aliens Rill.
THIRD REAUlNUS.—sEvietril Lleetttu'C Poor (Ireland,; Prot
Houses (,Irelani, ; Great YarmouthFretinenDiaranchisement% Bilk.
NOTICE 01 MG PlON.—PnerstagrgrAar Eeicrons.—sir B. hail.
on Friday move lor of the number of eleors on ths
register to the United Kingdom inreturn. It 11, and cd the numbcter. pulled et
the last elettion.
RETURNS OHM:REM—On the motion of Mr. AUGar one, returns
of the name. of all persons who are in the receipt of moncle out ot
certain Manche, of the revenue, and of the Woods and lured. In tlatt
United Rabid, m.
MALTA.
Dr. BryteßlNG asked the Colonial Under-Secretaryndinu wwhether any mi.asure• are in prop
for exte the
people of Mdta the bentfit of popular iLstitutious in any
shape?
Mr. B. HAWES said that if the hon. member meant to
ask whttlier a repreaentsitive awombly was to he granted to
Malta, he must answer " No." But bo should ill do justice I
to the governor of that island if be were to mitt
matt tostate
fat'
at '
lie had unthr his rnnsidereion many importaners,
the benefit of the colony. Amongst them were municipal
corporation', re'orms in the commercial and civil law pro-
cerium., tending to cheapen law ; also the investigation of
charities, ere the construction of warehouses f .1. the iin-
procerneLt of COMM VI,. All these important subjects had
been takers into considi ration within the last eight months
that the governor had resoled at Malta.
Dr. BOWRING asked if tko muoicipalities were to be
popular or close corporations ?
Mr. B. HAW ES said he wit. awaiting the report on the ' I
subject, and could givEYLON. e WA information at present.
C—NAVIOATION LAWS.
Mr. HUME begged to ask tho President of the Beard of '
Trade whether the porta • f Ceylon vivre t r lie piseed on the II
same footing, as rrgarded the duties a id charges on shipping 1
and gcods, with the ports of the East India Company's
territonta ?
Mr. LABOUCIEERF. said that Ceylon, being a British
port, a-id net under the control of the E ilit Indian Ft-meta-
ment, no measures leach as the hon. mem. r r ferred to
could be applied to the ports ot that Wend ball ball (Mange, of
the nature in question must be eff,cteil by authority of par-
liamet.t, and not by order in council.
SPANISH CORRESPONDENCE.
Mr. URQUHART wished, in consequenced of the fli
rts*.
panty in the answers given in that house an elsewhere on
the subject. to know whether the retied conduct of Mr.
Bulwer at Madrid was rally approvi d of by his govern-
mentwhether the despot hes of the 10th endno
April would be given in full % lie also wished to kwllth ho
ther ar y communication had been recently received front 1
the Duke of Sotronsynr 1
Lord PALMERSTON said that Mr. Ilulwer's conduct
had recent d the approval of hit povernment. It would sot
be convcrant to the public service to publish in &dens°
despatches intended only for the prien'e information of go-
mrnment. Government haft rec. ived no communication
from Mr. Bulwer acknowledging the lot despatch lent out,
and therefore Le could not answer tho last part ol the hu
t,
member's question.
Mr. 11 ttl.lo et ART sail, that when, on to-morrow (this
day )he gi o ,ler the otice tif the house ,e aairs of
•11 , in n ir'irouohla , n
or al,ailil auk,n tern,. eireetrittibns ni,ff these
:lost trilibliCtlellit.

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-HOLSTEIIL—DUNKARIC.
hetber
.• blinesas wished m know w
.-4 say inieresation relative to the In-
•-.r, by the Prussian troops; end
- antanblo settlement

• scnuswio-,
The ems' HON. Me
geeetheseat lid weaved
mien of the Amish territory by see
also whether an
there were any hopes of
of affairs in that querter ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that the Prussian troopsbent
had
innately entered feeblest*, and directions might
given to them to gannet into Jetlend. With reference to
amicable arrangements, he had TOIMOO to believe that both
parties were willing to accept the geed offices of England
and the house might rely upon it there would be no want
of exertion on the part of the British government to bring
' matters to a satisfactory oonclusion.
Is answer to another question from Mr. Vont) HART,
mid* was boodible.
Lied PALMERSTON farther stated that the Daniell go.
Messes% tad applied both to Russia and Great Britain for
'Mediation, while the German confederation had applied
Ind y to the latter power.
RIVER PLATE.—BLOCKADE OF THE ELBE.
Mr. ROBINSON wished to know whether the Provi-
ts
sional Government of France continued the arrangemen
of its predecessor reepectiog the joint operations of the Bpi-
listened French squadrons in the River Plate. lie should
also be
glad to hear whether had received any
ofithgal information of the blockade of the Elbe and the
Wiser by Danish ships ; also whether such blockade, if
existing, would be general or only confined to vessels bear-
ing munitions of war ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that he had not bed any com-
munication with the Provisional Government of France re-
lative to the affairs of the River Plate, hut the late govern-
ment had sent out instructions addreesed jointly to the
English and French agents, which, he trusted, would lead
to an amicable arrangement of all differences in that quarter.
He expected every day a communication on this subject. I
Nothing requiring fresh communication with the Prod-
serest Government had arisen, but he had no reason to sup- I
pose they would feel inclined to withdraw the in
which had been issued by their predecessors. With refer-1
toes to the other questionof certain blockades of the hon. !acrobat., be had to
reply that a notification on the Elbe
and .loewhere bad been received, but without indicating in
detail the particular points. He apprehended that, accord-
ing to the law of nation', ouch blockade a would exclude aill
vessels, and that the ease of one carrying munitions of war
would give rise to much graver questions.
blr. ROBINSON asked whether the Weeks& would
affect the ships of the belligerents only ?
Lord PALMERSTON said that a Danish officer hod
landed lately at Ileligolenel, and stated to the British officers
theat Briiialt steam-ckets conveyin malls and pm.
angere, rsth only would not be be prevented fromg eutering the
blockaded ports.
VAN DIEMEN'S LAND.
In answer to a question from Mr. Hens,
Lord J. RUSSELL said, it was the intention of tOTOTIM.
meet to introduce a measure giving the above colony a localf
lettielature. lie could not, in consequence of the pressure o
other business, fix the particular day.
ENCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND).
Mr. BRI.OIIT said that a measure to (*cleres . the sale of
encumbered estates in Ireland had been introduced in the
other horse to far back as February last, and bad not as yet
r. ached the committee, while noble lords had pared the
Coercion Bill clean through in throe days. (Hear, beer.)
He wished to know when it might be expected down for dis-
cussion in that house (the Roue of Commons)?
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the subject
do which the
hon. member Teter', d was one of great ifficulty, and
although the Lord Chancellor bad been in constant coin•
munieation with various parties, both legal and those inter-
ested in te settlementf mortgages, some further time
would beh c
oo
necessary for derate's. He (Lord J. Rue.
sell) bad been recently speaking to the Lord Chancellor,
who had informed him that the bill would come under con-
sidera•ion to-morrow (this day). The hon. memher should
however recollect that, supposing it down at that moment,
there was a great deal of important business, among
friend
would bring under consideration on Monday next, and
which must have precedence.
CRACOW.
Lord D. STUART wished to know whether any official
intertnaton had been received relative to the bombardment
of Cracow.
Lord PALMERSTON hail received ol
agreeing substantially with the publishedfficia informetion
accounts. It was
to the effect, that in consequence ot certain events
rah rich
h had
taken place in Cracow, a bembardment, orcan-
nonade, was commenced from the castle upon the town. It
lasted several hours, and arum
ceased. (Laughter.)
BRITISH GUIANA
Lord G. BENTINCK, who was almost Inaudible, wu
understood to ask whether government had received any in-
o
timation from the local count of DerneffirS,
whether a copy
relative t
the impossibility of raising supplies ; also, whe
of an address from the 0 00000 or of Jamaica to the colonoo
had been received, promising them further amelioration in
celenial gnverneneet.
Mr. HAWES had no official cognisance of the matter
referred to in the first hrsnch of the Debi& lord's question.
With respect to the address of the governor of Jamaica, he
knew nothing about it, having never seen aor heard of it.
In answer to o. question from Mr. I'. MILS!),
Mr. HAWES promised to lay all papers relative to West
Indian affairs upon thANISHe table wAFFAIRS.ith the least possible delay.
SP
Mr. BANKES said that the noble lord the Secretary for
Foreign Affairs had promised an extract from the Clamor
Publico along with the despatches relative to recent events
ie Madrid. On looking over the papers he (Mr. Bankes)
could not find that extract. lie to geed now to ask the
noble lord fur it, and sew whether the noble lord hol any
authority tor supposing that the Duke of Sotomnyor's
letter found its way into a French paper with the connivance
of the Sposish government? While on the subject of expla-
nation', hr should be glad to know how it was tE Kt
thh
e
despatches he held in his nand had appeared in ans
newspsper twenty four haws before they were in the hands
of members of that house?
Lord PALMERSTON had, since the publication of the
deepetehes, found a copy of the Clamor Pethlico which was
quite at the service of the hour. With near" to the hon.
member's uocod question, as to how the French papers had
obtained the correspondence, hie (Lord Palmerston '• conjec-
ture bad been founded on the internal evidence of the docu•
mints themselves. All he could say well certainty was that
they Lad not come from the British government or the Bri-
tish minister at Madrid. With regard to the last queation,
his answer war, that it was perfectly well known
that it was a usual and established courtesy with
public depertments when despatches were laid on the
table of that house to send them to the principal poem.
Whether they had been sent in this instance before a elle
flcient numher had been struck off for distribution amongst
hon. members he did not know, but he thought the custom
rather advantageone to the public sereiee than otherwise.
PUBLIC HEALTH.
The Earl of LINCOLN thought that a good opportunity
for inhuming her ?dainty's government that he intended to
move the omission of the 4th and (oh clauses of the Health
ot T Bill. Should he be sueceriful in that motion it
was hisowns intention further to move an alteration in the Gth
clause, transferrine the appointment of superintendents and
inspectors to the eectetary of State.
CHANNEL ISLANDS.
In answer to a auction Mom Mr. Eiverer,
Sir G. GREY d
Nedinte he had
uire received
the state a report
of frothem
the
esenmi sionen app' to inq into
mind law in the Channel I-lends. Until that was derma
of entirely the COMM iwkinGers would not touch the coil law.
TILE CUSTOMS.
Mr. IdeelltEoOß begged to ask the noble lo
rd ulrd at the
head of the uovernment when an oppertunityd be
afforded him of bringing forward his motion relative to t
ithy
e
customs, which was then n dropped order i If an oppurtun
were not efforded, his only resource would be to bring it on
on going into supply.
Mr. STUART wished to inform the noble lord before' an-
swering
the hon. member for Glasgow, that he (Mr. Stuart) I
had himself stood beside the hurt. member in the lobby while
the house was being counted out on his motion. (Laughter.)
Lord J. RUSSELL was afraid that he could not promise
the hon. member any of the nights devoted to pub is busi-
ness. He had already given up Friday night to the hoc.
member her Oxford.
Mr. WO REGOR explained that his appearance in the
lobby on a former evening was occasioned by hie leaving
gone there to induce members to come in and make a

house.
PUBLIC sIEALTII BILL.—ADJOURNED DEBATE,
Lord J. BUSSELL wish d, belure proceeding to the milt r
of the day on the eh ore bill, to intimate to the house that
governen• nt intended to make an important altezation in the
liedtal of tise comrnis•ioni n it was proposed that
there shout i he only three commiesioners, two of whom
would be unpaid.
Mr. SPOON Kit, in resuming the adjourned debate, com-
pleaued that, tedwithetandin,t the alteratione announced by
the noble lord, the great evil principle of the hill remains
untouched, that principle being to make over to • witted
board the aterirs of eat r.s mcipality in the kingdom. The
annociation of such • prim iplo hid raised an oppusition
which wan daily and hourly increasing, the towns of England
cone. wing that the House of Commons was usurpieg • power
to which it had no right whatever. lie approved highly
of the valve indieved by his nble friend the
member for Falkirk. It was, in his opinion, quite
eight, that the details of the bill should be in-
quired into, before any steal
were taken for the appointment
of a commiesion. It appeared to him that unesea the object
of the government was merely to create places, the best way
would be to &hue the work to he done, before any new
powers ware created. Although opposing the present hill he
wee quite convinced that a well.contrived sanitary bill was
absolutely necesaary, and it was leecauee he was convinced of
that neceesity that he carrel on the noble lord not to press
the present hill. If the noble lord w
the c immissass hee
i4ied it to p must
ust
take out all the powers given to ionen
hoped the noble lord would cone. nt to refer the bill to •
select committee up stairs, if sot, and his lion. friend the
member for Stafford presaed the house to a division on his
amendment, he eh cold ceitainly vote with him.
Mr. KLAN hY believed that no man could have read the
report of the health of towns commission, on whose unani-
mous recommendation the Illtfthure Mai founded, without
being convinced that powers such as those rimmed to be
taken by this bill were abodattly necessary. That con-
million hod ettended its inquiries to s
ki the principal mans.
factoring and seaport towns in the ngdom. and the re.
stilt was that in regard to the three great points es
which the investigation w ae directed, via., drainage, cl carting,
and the supple (4 water, they were all miserably deficient
sad
that the health of the working classes—the sinews of the
country—the localities in which they resided being in ill
ea-es the most neglected, was greatly deteriorated, and th
duration of life shortened in consequence. It we all very
well to say, " leave the matter in the hands of the local
boartle ;" hut experience had ehown that the exertlone of
those bod ii ice, nattendcd by some suecrvising power. had
been in almost all cases wbolly ineffective lie would call