The Express.
London, England, 1847-07-10 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDA'

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-1 proper motives. Certainly, whether it areas hem the aa-
firkin ef his mind, or that he hal eerie made Massifa-
pis raw ef the English leageers—(lond laughter)—the
▪ waselear threw out herelletions and used words in
dintriblng the conduct of °them which, if they were uttered
by anybody else, would give great offence, but when de-
livered by him nobody thought them worthy of notice.
(Renewed laughter.) The honourable member seemed
to possess a charter of liberty of speech in that
house, and therefore he (Lord J. Remelt) thought
the honourable members for Gateshead and Birmingham,
and their respective relatives, might rest satisfied that they
stood entirely clear in this matter, and that nobody in or out
of the house would pay the smallest attention to the charges
brought against them by the hon. member for Montrose.
(Hear, and renewed laughter.)
Mr. AOLIONBY said for the many years he had at in
the house he had witnessed both the conduct and manner of
his hon. friend the member for Montane., and although he
(Mr. Aglionby) might agree in the jocular remark made by
the noble lord, that his bon. friend was a chartered libertine
—(roars of laughter interrupted the hen. and learned mem-
ber for Cockermouth ; Lord J. Russell shook his head in
negation of having made any such remark ; the laughter was
renewed, and on its continuance the hon. and learned gentle-
man wan set right se to the expression used by the noble
lord)—Mr. Aglionby, as soon as silence was partially restored,
proceeded to say that he rejoiced to find that he had mis-
understood the noble lord, who had attributed to his hon.
friend the posessaion of a charter of liberty of speech. If
his hos. friend had that privilege, he was entitled to it for
the great good humour he always displayed, for the readi-
ness with which he always gave advice and assistance to
members oiler experience than himself, and for his services
to the country, which owed him a debt of gratitude that it
could never repay. (Hear, hear.) He was convinced his
hoe. friend never intended to give any offence, and there-
fore he hoped the subject would be proceeded with no fur-
ther. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HUME hoped to be allowed to say a few words in
explanation. On a former evening, when a member of the
cabinet had thought proper to all him a thief, a receiver of
stolen goods, and to use with respect to him a variety of
other epithets, he had felt that the right hon. baronet to
whom he alluded (Sr J. Hobhonse) made use of those ex-
pressions in the warmth of debate, and he (Mr. Hume) had
therefore stated that he should not take the smallest notice
of them; but white the First Lord of the Treasury thought
proper to rise—and in a cool, premeditated manner to tell
him that he had not learned his own language, and that he
had a charter of liberty of speech, he had a right to know
upon what authority the noble lord made that statement.
(Loud laughter.) He thought the attempt of the noble lord
to joke off the motion was unworthy and unbecoming the
position he held. He should say no more, but leave the
matter to be dealt with by the house.
The conversation hers dropped, and in a few minutes
afterwards Mr. Hume crowed the house, and took his seat
on the front opposition bench, by the side of Mr. Spooner,
amidst loud and general laughter, in the midst of which an
earnest colloquy appeared to take place between the two hon.
member,. In a few momenta Mr. Hume returned to the
seat he usually occupies, and silence was restored.
COMMUTED PENSIONS.

Sir D. L. EVANS repeated the question put by him
on a former day, whether the government would reconsider
the case of the pensioner whose pensions had been com-
mute/ on their emigration to Canada, and who had returned
to this country He also wished to know whether any
steps had been taken to improve the ventilation of the bar-
racks through the country ?
Mr. F. MAUL& was understood to say that the case of
the pensioners would be considered. With respect to the
second question, the army was satisfied with the alterations
which the government had in progress.
Mr. ELLICE strongly recommended the case of the pen-
sioners to the favourt.ble consideration of the government.

ROMAN CATHOLIC SOLDIERS.
In answer to Mr. A. MACARTHY,
lir. F. MAULE said that in the votes provision was made
that Roman Catholic soldiers serving at home and abroad
should rewire from their priests the offices and consolations
of their religion.
BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTER BILL.

In answer to a question put by Mr. ROEISIELN,
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Bishopric of Manchester
Bill stood for a second reading on Monday, but if be could
not bring it on before half-past nine or ten o'clock, he should
postpone it to Thursday.

IRELAND.—REPORT OF THE RELIEF COM-
MISSIONERS.
Sir D. NORRE'FS moved, pursuant to his notice, for a
return of so muck of the correspondence or reports of the in-
spectors, under the act 10 Vie., ch. 7 with the names, ranks,
and residences of the parties referred to, as sustains the state-
ments made by the commissionersof relief in their third re-
port condemnatory of the conduct of relief committees, or
of individuals, in carrying out the provisions of the said act.
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN opposed the motion, and
was addressing the house when the Usher of the Black Rod
(Sir Augustus Clifford) appeared at the table, and sum-
moned the house to attend in the House of Peers, to hear
the royal assent; given by commission to numerous bills
(for which see Lords' report).
On the return of the SPEAKER, after an absence of half an
hour, the names of the bills which had received the royal
semi were read,—for list of which see the Lords' report.
Mr. STAFFORD O'BRIEN then resumed his address.
The only effect of the hon. baronet's proposition would be to
enable accusations to be made, without giving the accused
an opportunity of defending themselves.
Mr. LABOUCHERE thought it unnecessary to go at
any length into this question. Fully admitting the force of
the statements made by the commissioners. he denied that
they contained any general or indiscriminate attack on the
readmit gentry of Ireland. Though complaining of in-
stances of misconduct, the commissioners admitted these
cases to be exceptions ; they bad only done what they
deemed their duty in reporting the existence of emelt cases ;
and it was therefore most unfair to ce them with an
' attempt to mar the Irish gentry y. Should the
motion of the non. member for Mallow be agreed to, it
would necessarily lead to most extended and minute inquiry
in each case in the 1,600 relief districts. Most properly had
the commissioners refrained from mentioning games; and
the oarreepondence asked for would thus defeat their object,
and lead to most protracted inquiries. Still, it was right
that the government should not altogether pus over such
cases ; there was a great distinction to be made between
the case of those who were magi tes and other' : in
cues where magistrates were charged. the government
had sent them copies of the correspondence, and had asked
for their explanation. This was the only practical mode in
which the matter could be noticed at all. Recollecting that
the committee on Captain Wynne's case had occupied 32
days, and had met 3,0001., he hoped that no more such in-
quiries would be granted.
After a few observations from Mr. Ross,
The house divided :—For the amendment l9
Against it
On our return to the gallery we found
Lord CLEMENTS speaking: and understood the noble
lord to be inquiring whether it was the intention of the
government to continue the relief which had been afforded
by them in Ireland, after the next harvest, because there
were many parishes in that country in which the population
greatly exceeded the valuation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said a clause
was inserted in the Relief Act, which limited its operation
to a certain day ; and the government did not contemplate
introducing any bill to extend the operation of the present
law.
JUVENILE OFFENDERS BILL.-CONFERENCE
WITH THE HOUSE OF LORDS.

At is stage of the proceedings, ~
Sirt Jh. PAKINGTOPT reported to the house that he had
been to the House of Lords to request a conference on the
subject of their lordships' amendment to the Juvenile Of-
fenders Bill, to which their lordship* bad agreed, and had
sp= k W be held imeseMately in the royal gallery.
alandias woe accordingly appointed to
tbn afilllassea w the part of this house, and left the
ham During their absence the business
waft
Oa NUM a the members who had attended the con-
ilinnaneW regorted the result of their interview.
DI AL RELIEF FOR THE POOR.
Mr. 'ERRAND wished to know whether the statement
mods by the hon. and learned member for Bath on a former
evening, that the medical officer of a union had the power
of recovering the price of drugs, which might be distributed
by him to the poor, out of the poor-rates, was correct ?
Sir G. GREY believed the general practice, under the
existing law, to be, that contracts were taken by medical
men for attending the poor, which contracts included the
supply of medicines ; but there was a provision, that in case
of sudden illness, justices of the peace might direct medical
relief to be given. The hon. gentleman had referred, on a
previous evening, to a medical officer of a union being
obliged to see the poor die for want of proper medicine, and
in such a MO he (Sir G. Grey) thought the medical man
was not free from blame, as he sheal
d have taken care in
making his contract not to take so small a sum as to be
unable to provide proper medicines for his patients ; and in
any case he might have applied to a magistrate to order the
nacemary medicine.
After a few words from Mr. BORTH WICK, the subject
dropped.