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small share in the debate, he trusted they would agree to
the adjournment. (Oh, oh.) The Irish members had not
hail above tire or six hours of the whole debate. (" Oh, oh,"
and cries of "Divide, divide.")
Mr. SCULLY, who was received in a similar manner to !
111 r. Moore, raid that on a question like this, which affected
wren millions of Roman catholic', he trusted that full
opportunity for discussion would he afforded. Out of the
thirty-five or forty Roman catholic members of the house,
only seven had spoken during the course of this
debate. (Loud cries of " Divide, divide," amongst which
slight be heard calls of " Adjourn, adjourn.")
Sir 0. GREY said it appeared by the record kept at the
table that, instead of seven Irish members basing spoken,
fourteen hail spoken, against the bill, and the time occupied
be them, instead of tire hours, was eleven hours and a half.
lint the question was not the. time they had occupied. Ile ap-
pealed to the house whether the bill had not been sufficiently
discussed, bearing in mind that other opportunities would
offer. Ile therefore trusted the house wouldcome to a deti-
si,,n now.
Mr. OSWALD remarked that the hill affected Scotland.
and that only one member from that port of the kingdom
had addressed the house, and he was against the hill.
After a few words from Mr. M. O'Cosixtt. and Mr.
The Earl of ARUNDEL and SI:RREY said he agreed
with the milk lord that it was desirable as soon as possible
that this debate should he brought to a close, hut he must
call upon the noble lord to remember the great excitement
of Irish constituencies upon it, the great number of Irish
memlars who were consequently desirous of speaking, and
the fart that only 7 catholic members out of 37 had spoken
upon it. lie trusted the noble I ,rd would nut di% ide agaimt
the ailinurnraent.
Lora J. ItLSSELL said, after the noble lord's appeal to
him, he must say he pare him very little hope of coming to
that determination which he said was desirable. There
were several notices now standing on the book for to-mor-
row, and the ;oleic lord said out of 37 catholic members
only 7 had spoken ; if the other 30 were to speak, he did
not know when they should get through. (Laughter)
Mr. ItEYNOLDS (who rose amidst load cries of
" Divide, divide") la gited to remind the house that the
adjournment had been moved by an Englishman, and not
by an Irishman. Ile also begged to remind the house and
the lord that though he had counted 48 member', as
basing addressed the house on this subject, those who were
opposed to the hill were not to be charged up to that
hour with offering it any factious opposition. (Cries
of Oh, oh.") Ile repeated that up to that hour
they had offered no factious opposition ; and the course
that was to he pursued to-night would decide whether it
was to receive factious opposition fur the future.
The home then di•ided:

For the adjournment
Against it
Mr. 51A1:11ICE O'CONNELL then moved the adjourn-
ment of the house.
Lord J. RUSSELL said the hoe. member seemed to he
desirous to have the honour of conducting • factious oppo
*Wpm. (Cheers) Ile saw no reason why the house should
indulge the hon. gentleman in that desire. (Iliac.) The
boa. had 'ivy clearly pronounco cl, by a majority of 414 to
61 that, whatever was the position of the speakers, the
listeners were quite satisfied. (Hear, hear.) living there-
for. perfectly iistisfied in that opinion of the house se ea-
rn es. .1, and only saying that he thought it desirable that
the debate, having continued for some days, should be eons
tiniosl from day to day, he was quite ready to consent to
the adjournment of the debate to this day. (Cheers, and
cries of seise co'cleck.")
Mr. M. O'CONNELL said if he untlernond that the de-
bate was to be adjournill till the usual hour, five o'clock, he
would withdraw his motion for the adjournment of the
house. (Cries of " Twelve o'clock.")
The motion being withdrawn, the adjournment of the
debate to this day was agreed to.
Os the SP EAKEIt putting the question that it should be
tic:lmA till twelee 0 clock,
r..1011N O'CONNELL moved, as an amendment, that
the adjournmo id should be till live o'clock.
redisiel RAWDON hoped the hon. member would not
]a mist in his amendment. This was the first time the
Roman catholic religion haul been brought into discussion in
that house ; and it was desirable that every Roman catholic
should have the opportunity of expressing his opinion if he
wished to do so, espeei,dly in reference to what had fallen
from the hon. member for West Surrey.
Mr. MOoltb said that un an important question of this
kind it was of great consequence that there should not he
the appearance of heat or haste. (" Oh! oh !") 'the debate
ought therefore to proceed iu the usual way. Ile would
certainly support the amendment.
Mr. O'FLAIIEItTY said it was now after one o'clock,
and hon. gentlemen could not be espected to meet again at
twelve o'clock. Their religion and country were at stake, ,
and they were entitled to he heard.
Mr. LA %V LESS denied that there had been any factious
opposition. Oh !oh !'•) Of the 64 who had voted for
the adjournment be believed half intended to speak; and if
there was only one who did so, he ought to have fair play.
The house then divided—
For the amendment (five o'clock)
Against it 306-263
On returning to the gallery, we found
sir. KEOGH aoldresbing the bowie. lie thought tie
time occupied by Irish members had not been very groat.
According to a statement produced that evening it was
&ear that the supporters of the measure had occupied more
timo than those who opposed it. lie did not consider it
fair, after hon. members had bat up to that hour (half-pint
one o'clock) to call on them to sit again at twelve next, or
rather, he should say, that day. (Rear, hear.) It was not
fair to press the bill in that way, as if it were • coeecion
bill. If in order he would move that the debate be not
then adjourned. (*. Hear, hear," Divide, divide.")
After • few words from Mr. MAUKtell O'CONNELL,
In which he was understood to disclaim all factious opposis

Lord J. RUSSELL said he midentond from the observe- 1
lions of the hon. member for Dublin (Mr. Reynolds), that i
it was his intention to offer a factious opposition unless the
debate were adjourned. With res yet to what hod fallen
from the hon. member for Athlone Mr. Keogh), he (Lord 1
John Russell) should say that, if it s could be understood to
take the debate at half-past 4 o'clock in the afternoon, he i
would no longer persevere in his previous determination. •
(Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
'the motion was then withdrawn, and the debate ad-
loomed to a quarter peat 4 o'clock to-morrow (this day.)
DESIGNS ACT EXTENSION BILL.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the second read-
ing of this bill.
Colonel SIDTHORP was opposed to going on with the
till at that hour. It encouraged the foreigner at the ex-
pense of the Englishman.
Mr. LABOUCH ERE said that the bill bad been consi-
dered by a committee of the House of Lords, and as it was
wet-mail that the bill should be speedily passed he hoped
the house would consent to the second reading. The dis-
mission upon it could take place in committee.
Mr. N EWDEGATE asked if the protection afforded by
the bill was retirees'?
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the bill afforded
as much protection to the Englishman as the foreigner. It
gave as much protection as any law of patents ever did.
(Hear.)
Mr. Alderman SIDNEY thought the bill alone-sided one.
Mr. ARK W RIGHT objected to the bill because it con-
tained more than was stated in the title and preamble ; be-
sides which, the 7th clause repeated words which would
constitute a permanent alteration of the act of 1842.
Mr. SPOONER hoped the bill would be allowed to be
read a second time.
Mr. WESTHEAD maid that there was great anxiety felt
by English ethibiturs with regard to this bill, and he hoped
the opposition to it would be withdrawn. (lieu.)
The bill was then read • second time and ordered to be
Committed on Wednesday neat.
APPOINTMENT OF A VICE-CHANCELLOR
BILL.
This bill was postponed till to-morrow (this day).
The house aihournid at two o'clock.