The Express.
London, England, 1849-06-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 20. 1849.

Prices of egrir.g corn nomtnaL !filar..., white, 445. to 43 per qr. ;
red, 40s. to 43a
Hutt, June 19.-The general tone of trade &nine• the
part seek has been firMbeins, without any great stroke of business
having resulted, owing mainly/ to the paucity of arrivals end the
general disindination to offer handed parcels at thisserson of the year,
hoiden ptelening to risk tbe "chat ter of accidents" ether than Mks
the present current rates obtainable for the little offering groin sh p.
board. The eacepti ft to the foregoing [moils mar be (most in Bur-
ley, which, from its previous 100 ruse., ha• attracted the attention of
speculators and wholesale dealers in the Interim ; our comparatively
large impact of the week has time been run off on fully the u mad last
market day. The weather during the post week has been fin e, but on
the whole the frown is bucker., rd ; the wareity and high price of
Potato ~ and other esculents makes tie reartimetion of whereon
Flour very great. There was only a moderate supply of Wheat agalo
today from oar own lamas, and very little foreign °Wiring ; price.
of ail deeeriptions most be written Is. dearer, but the amount g
ot busi-
ness done Is not large. Fine qualities of foreign are comparatively
scarce. Ms Barley we experience • euktiuued good &mood,
at lout Mr grinding qualitke, which are being taken oft
quietly by interior buyers for their local autumn trade.
Means are dull Me and the' tusklowe; with little in-
quiry It Pre., except' blue User, seem marce. The
chief demand for Indian Corn is for Ireland. Very 11, tie bus urns
pa-begin linseed; the emu transacU..na are quite insigniticant,d
and the butt of the import is f r members' account. r Unwe
(Vies we do not alter 'our quotations, but they are yae dear
know
laat
reported. Our quotation is obtainable to Rape Cakes; but we
of no Matinees in It tpeseed. Although the transactions in antes are
prices are hay up to last week's mark, and supply does sot
get beyond demand.
leawitm, June 19.-The quantity of Wheat on tiler tee
day was email, and a very limited business,. was dine at about Is. per
qr. advance. But few samples of Barley on offer, expect Madge, al
which we had mare emus it,. No alteradkai in price either In real.
Deana, or Ch a. Whits Wheat, 495. to 525. per qr.; red, 445. to 40s.
Lazne, Jens 19.-There still continues a bitty/ r feeling in'
the trade, tied Ens fresh wheat, moot be quoted Is. to 2e. per quarter
dearer than Ink Turedayosith a good demand. There is alto mare
doing le rpriag corn, but without alteration in value.
I.IIIOR/off Bt*MtAan, June 19. -At market this day
laithere
was only a moderate supply of Wheat Mining, which meta r sale
at rattier over the rates of this day week. iimey tires, but no
advance could be obtakterl. .cw Born rather dearer. %heat, per
load ol 5 Unbolts 265. 6d. to 30s. Barley, per imperial qr , 23e,
to
23* 61, WWI% Lid. 32* ed.to Ma.; new, 21s. to 24a. per 5 Mullets.
LientirOoL, June 16.- Althongh the supplies from
Ireland bid nearly Nosed of late, and little expected to be chipped
theme; we have a tolerable quantity el Oats and }lour fresh in tr, m
that quarter, with a few smut parcels of grain coastwise ; whilst the
imports from abro d since this day wi ek ale in the sweeper limited
in smotost, con.isting chicly of Miter, Oats, and Peas Irons the
north of Europe, and of Beans thence and Egypt ; lime from the
United States being manly 404 torrels Flour, with 2,124 qrs. of
Indian Cara, against 12,512 qrs. of the latter exported during the
we' k to Ireland. In m may parts of this country and Ireland. the
weeth r last weak is reported to hays been rather coil and ciday fur
the season, producing a el ght cheek to vegetation, with an
mess of moisture in some distillers and too little la others;
exclusive of Barley, however, the corn, grass and root
crops us stated to exhibit a protium of great abundance, for
alttiough several rumours prevail relative to symptoms of disease
In
that of Piastres, suck are, sr tar, extremely partial: and, whatever,
the result may be, the mop in general is represented as favourable in
appearatce as in any former year. Owing to twenty di liverits of
Wheat Irma the growers, and &reaping six plea from abroad, the
trade in the lee
markets of Engl lid appears to indicate an up-
ward t . is 'ramie, on the contrary, prices during the work
base been us the decline, and buyers, in anticipation of fur-
ther arrivals, and seemingly desirous of meeting the coming harvest
with beta stocks on hand, baying retnaiard much on the naive. Our
market Ws meaning, having been well attended by Own and country
millers, good useful d,ocriptions of both English and foreign Wheats
continued t. meet a fair, but not extensive, demand, at a alight
amendment upon the teivanceof Friday, thereby elevatirg our quota-
Id. to 74.=:./111. over the currency of this day ee'untglit. The
ions d Sour, else, commanding a tolerable
sad Importers of American being arm, the lull rates re last
week wan maistained, and in some instances rather exceeded, whilst
superior mares of sack }lour supported the abore.nairrel improve.
Meat. Grinding Barley was rather mores doable, at late vie- e ; and
Malt, though dull, remained statioaary in value. limns and Veas,
upon a moderate demand, steadily realised our last quotations. Chits,
influenced by a more liberal supply and very limited consumption,
wi re extremely diflcult to move, and offered with little effect, at a
dec'ine of Id. per 451 b.. Oatmeal, likewise, rueeting little notice,
was the turn cheaper. loth= Cain, attended by a more lively rate
to-day, not only ressavered the dzeline of Friday, but yellow samples
sets:weed 6d. per qr. over last Tuesday's rates, and white supporte d the
terms Vain stab. rt. The following um the preamit prices
Wheat, per 7elbs., English, rid, 6s. 4d. to Gs. 24.; extra, Gs ad.
65 65. tOd.; white, 613. to Go. led.; extra, Gs. lud. to 7a. 2d. ; Irish.
• se. 4d. to Ge.td ; extra, Os. 2d. to is. 4d.; while, his. to ad. 4d. ;
extra, am 4d. to GM 14.1. Goley, per qr., English, 295. to $1..•
Ciarevalier, 31a. to 33s • Scotch and Irish, per &albs, Is. 3d. to I'.
Malt, per qr., English: pale, 53... to 39.. Oa's per 43.15., English and
gouty, old, Ws tild. t s 9t. ltd.; Wein'', old, is. 7d. to 2a. inks ; blab, Ins
sorts new, la a d. to Its. i1.d.,• old, Is tid. to 2s. 104.; general,
new, 9
`.7d. to a. aid.; oid,2s. bd. t Is. 9d.; Beane, pie qr.,
Enoug, new, Us. to 34m; old, 345. to 35m; Scotch and Irish, per
4806..0.0w,r21it to too. ; 0,423 w reap, per qr., English.
white, 3f5. to 33e.; lath, grey, les to 30a. 21 war, tier 28 1b..,
kaglisi and Irish, Isle, 3,45. to 335. 64.; superfine, 31s. 6J.to 35e. &L ; extra, 335. ad. to 375. 6d. Oatmeal, per load
of 2401 be., Irish, 1543, 245. Os. to 345. ad.; old, Vs to Ile.;
Canadian oil, 23'. 6d. to Its. Fran, per 241 be., 10d. to
Is Foreign: Wheat, Canadian, per 701 M, red, tin. N. to Cs 4,1.;
white, Gs. bd. to 6s. fitl. ; L'nitod Mate., red, 7.d. to GIL ed. white,
7e. Id. to7s. 44.;llanterie, mixed and red,G..2d. to 13s. ad. histom;alz, d,
7.. 6d. to 7s. 10d.; Lower Deltic liamburg, red, Cs Id. toes- ad. ;
white, as. Ittd. to Riga and Petetsburg, red, 50. &I to Ind.;
Arthautrel, ss. 4d. to 36.61. ; Odessa, common. red, is. 4d. to is. &L ;
Polish, 5...7d. to ss. 10d.; French, tiprudeh, and Italian. r„ t, 6s. 2d. to
Gs. 44.; white, Is. ad. to Gn. 941. ; Hanna and Ilarianopoll, red, 35.6 d.
to Sa ; kgypUan, 4s. d• to 4a. ed.; Mediterranean, he., hard,
4s. to 3.. 4cl. Rye, per qr., Baltic, Se., 300. to 32. Oarley, per
601 b., grtoding, 3..14. to 3s. 9d. Outs per 45111., ltd. to Is. 1141.;
Rossi" Es. 7.1. to 2s. Oil. Beans, per qr., European, 31s. to 940.;
per 4Sulls, Ettyptian, Vs. to 2 to. Gd. Paw, per qr., Baltic, Mc.,
oleic, 30a. to 33. a.; Canadian, Mo. to Vs. Fluor, per ha 1. 19.;lto,
Cariadian, sweet, Ve. fart. to Ve. &L; ILO. Western Canal, sweet,
2728. be.. tolls. ; Ohio, 11,. to 535. • Philadelphia and Baltimore,
sweet, Vs. Or. to 3 is. 61.; U.S. aid Cane,dian, sour, 225. to Lk.
Indian Corn, per 4001 b., Ames lean, white, 3 is. to 351. ;
liar. 6 L to36e.tid.; European yellow, 324. to Vs. W. Indian Corn Meal,
per 19014.., 18e. to 16.4.9,1. Arrivals Into Liverpool and Ituneorn from
the 13th to the lath of June Inclusive: Wheat, 4,037 qrs ; It ,rl. y,
202; Matt, 1,44/;0 its, 6,005; beans, 2,155; Peas, S',o; Italian Corn,
2,121; Oatmeal, 311 reeks; Flour, 1,323 stir;(., 404 barrels.
Least, Juue 10.-The *Armen be ng mostly engsged with
their hay, we have a rely small supply of %L, at, which the milt es
take at as *dance of Is. per qr.; Odor. to thlbe., 43a. to law.; like
white, to 48e.
NIsWCAsTLE, June 19.-The weath'r has improved
slightly sloes Saturday, still, however, the temperature tow for the sea-
son. Today we have hadreveral smart showers, which output a partial
check to the hay harvest width be just oarnmeuciog, but in other ,
respects the rain will do good, rata being wanted f. r soring corn. At
our o arket Oita meaning we haul a better supply of Wheat term the
growers, end haste' seven' parcels from the coast, a far extent of
miemers Was done, but Saturday's rates ccoe
dnut be eiceeded, al-
thougn Woos attempts ti to obtain an advance • as however, the mil.
lers ur.. generally low in stuck, we fully expeA will improve a
little. Thar inateady request, 3 is.lrecly alrenfor choice houalioldr,
for . etre whites Our mittens r-ised their price Is. p r sack
today, the rite demanded br them bring 913.. for !Inca, bakt ra' qua-
WY being held 7s. higher. In Rye 1 tile stirring. Or ruling barley
more inquiry tor, but 1.0 dearer. lo Beans nut Peas no change. For
0021 we continue to experience a demand for shipment, and a further
quantity his been taken for Glasgow account ut 13e. bd., I. to. b, for
Ardraigel tplaidy, weighingper busbel. W e bare warmly
any of this description now upon the market, such quality beiug
h at lea. per qr.
PI:owl:Tn. Jere 19.-The tole in Wheat was re'her
better this morning. M.ny mime Aimed a dispoeition to purchase,
and sone a,leowrre m de ata little advance; but buyers have so long
been able to buy Monet on their own terms, an advance of Is, per qr.
being grawralty demandtd checked buyers. Supplies from abroad
have been mod, rate during the last week, and sucks in granary are
only email. The weatie ris unsettled and ehowery, with roll nights,
which will check hay harr,st, now general. Corn crops and Potato/ a
in this district look generally won. Wheat la getting into ear, but Is
t forward, and fiance c _rot. be expected to begin until the 10th
of Azimut.
SALlaltaaT, June'9.- A'. had a very short supply of
Wheat to-day, and, in con.equenoe of a thin attendance of farmer*
and dealers but little businera was transacted, notwithat tiding the
best il, scriptions of Wheat r. allied as advance of Is. pr qr., and
inferior rumples brought the quotations of this pay week. Dailey
was ale* chart in supply, though equal to the demand, ate. ias• We n s
priers were fully suipored. Oats al oi participated in :he ornl
amount of business. doing, without any alteration In prices liran.
supported late rates, with but&stow sale, and we did nut hear of ao,
sales iii Peas mewling. A moderate demoid for Farm, without
change in value. la Malt an i Seeds scarcely anythieg dome. Wheat.
34.. to 495. Barley, 245. to 305. Oats, IGs. to 221. Penns, 3bs. to
40a. Malt, sse. to 9fa pit qr. nom, dis. to Sfie. per mt.:.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TCESDAT, JUNE 10.
Tbe But of Smarthantnix (Depoty Speaker) took his
seat at 8 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
BCOND READING. Lord Brougham and Vac:
(Duke ni CieVela,WS) Edda BLI.
THIRD READINGS. feeds god Think Railway
(power to gunman inter. at on certain shun, &c.) • %Vita
tlesey St. Mary and WnittleseT St. Andrew tinion ot
Parishes, and for imnrosing the 3 own of Whittltsey ; Bale.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
Srrawnteravtoet FUND TYR POOR LAW OFFICERS.—
By the B shop of WORCESTER, Irons • place in his dioce.r;
the Duke of RICHMOND, from Wrstfxsuroe union: the
Bishop of GLOUCESTER, froze a plate in Lis diner au; in
favour of this proposition.
LENSING 13VITRI1 (SCOTLAND).—By the Duke of
RICI ICIIIOND, from Forfar, on the subject of the lionising
winos in Son land.
Bass-norave.—By the Duke of RICHMOND, from a
fltee, name not hew, for the abolition of linens to beer.
Till MALT Tax —By the D..ke of RICHMOND, from
a place in Stoma, for the feral of this tax.
PARLIAMENTARY OATRe MILL.—By the Duke o' RICH-
MOND, from a piste not heard, against this bill ; and an-
• other against the late thetio of infidels into perlittneat,
COVIITY COITRTS.—By the Ent of WARWICK, from
' Wareick, for the ex•ensi4u of the jurisdiction of Cowry
Court..

EORTPATRICK AND DONAGHADEE.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY gave node& that en
Mmday.next be eboull ask a question on the suhject of the
removal of the post-dale packet from this &stints.
ACCIDENTS IN COAL MINES.
The Merquis of LONDONDERRY, with reference to a
e.'mtnitteo which had been appointed the prelims night,
during his absencii, on this subject, thought it would have
been better if a commission had teen appointed ; and be
begged that his name might be .'ruck out of the comm;t-
tee.. He was anxlcua for every humane iuquiry, hut this
would be carrying it too far.
Lord Vi HARNCLIFF.II explained the grounds on which
he put the noble 'narcissists name on the committee.
GRAND JURY CESS (IRELAND) BILL.
Oa the motion of the Marquis of CLANHICARDZ, this bill
wn real a second time, and ordered to be committed.
CANADA.
Lcrd BROUGHAM rose to bring forward the motion of
which he had given nettle-. It was a snbjoet of great im-
portance, of extraordinary interest in the public mind, end
of still more esteems enlist! in our colonies He meant
the stet* of affai-s of Canals, both with respect to legislai
tion sad es it regarded the executive government. It was a
subject of extreme interest, not only at home, but in our
colonies; sod he did not confine it to Canada., for reasons
which he should prewintly state. Notwithstanding the able
discussion whieh the question had undergone elsewhere, he
deemed the discussion of the subject as peculiarly appertain-

log to this judicial &monthly, and he would at once premised
to remind the house of the history of Caned.. By the peace
of Paris, in 1762, negotiations by the father of h's noble
friend opposite (after the brilliant success of Lord Chatbsm
had wrested from the French the province of C mods),
secured to us Canada by the peace of Path. The settlers of
the province were chiefly French. They were somewhere
about two or three times the number of the English in Lower
Canada. Upper Canada, however, was almost entirely Eng-
lish, and was settled mainly after the American war by
loyalist Americans and British subjects, who were impatient
of the yoke established in America, *Warrior the principles
of the Americans —but which they had a right to bold ; ab-
horring, above all, the republican yoke, they repaired to Ca-
nada, where they had the invaluable privilege of avoiding the
dominion of the republic and enjoying subjection to the
crown. Of all the royalists whose opinions were tirged with
strongest feelings of loyalty, the American loyalists were
among the first and foremost ; end accordingly they did not
change their minds with the sky under which they lived.
He did not wish to draw an invidious distinction between
them and their French brethren. Yet the one were at all
times attached to England, mid by blued, langusre— by
their customs, manners, fuller, and laws they were Eng-
lishmee, whilst the others were French—by accident Eng-
lish, by descent French, and by their origin, manntut, cus-
toms, and very properly by their feelings they were
French. Nevertheless, they had behaved like peaceable
subjects of the crown, generally spsaking—a consum-
e-ellen much to he rejoiced in, and which had been
facilitated by that kind of union which existed between
a colony and the mother country. There was always a great
quantity of treasure and numerous troops and forces pes-
rested by the mother country both by sea and land, which
made it impossible to say that the mother country was de-
pendent on the colony; and, therefore, the French colonists
colloid. red what powers England hod of maintainine her
sovereignty. This had been one main cause why the more
or his reluctant obei.anoe of the French people in Lower
Canada bad gone along with the cheerful and hearty °het- ,1
1411 Ce of the English inhabitants of the colony. But the
time come when some severance, it was thetah!, between
the two colonies night be attempted, and in the years
1837-38, a serious attempt was made—not r xei-ed by any
act of oppression, or by any real grievance—a rebellion, how-
ever, of a serious nature broke out. It was found that •
conspiracy had shank its roots deep, and extended its
branches to a considerable distance from the centre of the
government. At Montreal there was mg in isc d a secret society
—partly under Freech Influence, and also under agleam
from a nearer quarter of our extensive dominion. Thus
secret societies in Montreal numbered 3,000 persons. If any
one doubted it let him read Sir John Colborne's dispatch
to Lord Melbourne. The rebellion broke out ; Pm military
forte was called out—the civil power being insufficient, the
rebels were attacked, they fought, they had arms in very con-
siderable numbers, they resisted the troops which Sir Allan
M'Nab commanded with so much gallantry and success.
That government which had made some men officers with
filth-ma end horours, and which he did not wish further to
refer to, had passed over that able officer. Colonel MtNeb
met the rebel* and defeated them. They fled from him, and
it was found on pursuing them, that house after house was
deserted, barn atter barn bad been burned, and many of the
loyal subjects themselves were imprisoned by the
rebels. The loyal inhabitants bad fl-d to Montreal for
succour c and upea one occasion a gallant officer,
leeut. Weir, was earned to the rear by the rebels ; they
plucked his epaulettes from his shoulder', and they pierced
him with wound after wound be fore the imperial troops
could reach him. Dr. Wolfed Nelson commanded that
corps, and he was a claimant; but he generously rave up
one half of his claim. lie merely mentioned this in passing.
Such was the rebellion which was put down by the gallant
officer he had alluded to, and he had now to aft attention to
the frame of mind in which Lord Durham found the colony.
The neceteities entailed cn us by this rebellion obliged par-
liament at home to suspend the constitution in Canada, and
Lord Durham was sent out with dictatorial and ale:oluto
powers. He would read hie own words as to the 'tote of
society in Canada, in ceder that he might not de injuitice to
him. A Tryon had been prepared, which did great
credit to those who drew it up. The late lamented
Mr. Charles Biller end Mr. Wakefield, no doubt as-
sisted to a great exteet in its preparation. (Hear, hear.)
The noble and learned kid then read a passage Irons the
report of Lard Durham, stating that he tound a contest
between the 4ovcrnment and the people—two nations mere
waning within the bosom of the same state—it was •
struegle not only of parties but of races. It wee scarcely
possible to conceive the descendants of any of the great
European nations more unlike each other. lie then went
on to Lay that even in the schools of Quebec and Montreal 1
the begs were divided into parties according tce their race,
and often fought. The intercourse of society was entirely
out of the question—the publications cf the piers were of a
most violent character—and even upon grounds which ought
to be neutral the sacred grounds of dharity they
could not agree. After some further not tions en
the same subject, tthe noble and learned I proceeded.
He would now go on to allude to the t outbreak in
reep,
..„,,,,i, and he knew he should be told at he wan en-
c -engine tie rebels by his speech. That as, betrayer, a'
risk a hich statesmen and leenslators, at al" • s, must be
content to run, as well as the slanders which the asst face
in the discharge of their public duty ; but, as M . Burke
had sail, the fire-bell which awoke us in our slumbas pre-
vented our heieg burnt in our beds ; and therefore he shuuld
say what he bad to state fearlessly. There was muck pro
pert y destroyed, and some by the militia in crushing the 1
: ebellion ; and for some time no compensation was cev n,
even to these who bad suffered as loyal subjects; but after-
war Is a bill was pouch by which it was intended to give
en:rip-motion to the loyalists who bat suffered in Upper
Canada. The most false statements had been made about this
ill; but it was clear that it was intended to give c =Dense-
lion for the property which bad been taken ; and if any
rebel received compensation,. it was for goods, horses, &c.,
taken by the troop., he having r- ceived the commaude t'a
rnote for the goods he had sold, therefore it was a matter of
emtract, and not of compensation. (Herr, hear.)
The friends of the government were disgusted, whilst
1 their enemies were well pleased to accept the terms
offered, and the government soon found itself in a mino-
rity. The prime minister of the new government was
1 Monsieur Auguste Alexis Hyppolite Lafontaine. (A. laugh.)
It so happened that he petitioned parliament, and he (Lord
1 Brougham) presented that petition, and Mr. Vigor' pre-
sented a petition to the other house. Mr. Lafontaine was
most toward and ostentatious in his disaffection, as wos moat
clearly proved by a letter written by him to Mr. Vigor.,
and discovered by fif.r John Colborne. In that
letter he said " Papieeau will give you a sum
equal to 20,0001. to earn the blue bonnets of the north."
' This was the linguege Mr. Lafontaine used after the rebel-
lion was crushed, and before he got back. He returned to
C.thsda under Lard Darham't Amnesty Act, and became
' prime minister w. en he found the prime minister had been
openly engaged in a most seditious course ; and when he
found that after the rebellion was crushed he endeavoured
to keen the seeds in the ground that they might hereafter
grow into another re hellion, he thought he was I uetified in
saying that he was disloyal. Lerd Metcalfe dismissed Mr. La-
fontaine, and they could well understand why. But then
came another change, which compelled Lord E'gin to re-
store him. Tho fully of this responsible government, as
applied to the colonies absolutely surpassed his powers of
c .mpreheneion—at least taking it in its fullest ex cot, as in
this country.; because, to a certsin extent, it was applicable
to the colonies. lie would she :hem very ample powers of
inferno 1 administration ; he would cot sign to %h.= a 1
ma ten of • purely local nature; he would interfere as
little as possible with the mum: meet of their own funds,
OT a ith whatever they chom to enact respecting their
churches, schools, canals, education, religion, and so forth.
But in ll matters which touched upon the severeignty,
or affected the tie which connected the mother country to
a colony, be denied the applicability of responsible
government. The greatest of ancient statesmen
taunted the Athenians with running about the streets
and asking what was there new or strange, as if any-
I thing could be so new or strange as a Meitmelenian as-
leering to the government of the Greeks. So he (Lord
Brougham) asked if there could be anything more deeply
affecting the inter. ate of the empire, and the honour of the
crown, than a bill in Canada for making the loyal inhabit-
ant!, the loyal subjects of the crown, the loyal cementer+, by
their blued, of the colony and the parent state, pay for the losses
sustained by thou very rebels whom the loyalists attempted to
put down. He would call attention to the Canadian con-
stitution, as the bill bad met with the approve: nut only of
the French party hut of the great 'majority of the English
party : ho. The two Canada having unhappily b en united,
as angented by Lord Dalmeny in an evil hour, esateary to
ice opinion entertained by him (Lord 'hough.= i and by
the noble duke (Wellington), who entered his opinion
on the journals of the house, which fot.eed one
of the a lest state papers he had ever r , ad—the
consequence was that the parliament c insisted of 84
members, 42 for each province. Upper Canada yes altoce.
thee English, loyal and Enaliah, desirous of the unnection
tiring
.continued for ever, and doing all they could to perpe-
tuate tt. Lower Canada wits in a great part French, there
being 600,000 odd of French, and only 200.000 odd of Eng-
lish. 01 the constituencies in Lower Canada 33 were French
and 9 were English. let Upper Cana-la they were, he be-
lieved, all English except one. Observe then the consequence
of the union, wed how the English were thereby given over to
the French. The 33 Free oh members almost all voted Vote-
ther—but the nine English members did not ell vote toge-
ther. They were exceedingly ill informed men, some of
them being unable to read or write, and were under the con-
, trol of their priests and leaders. The consequence was that
some of the nine English members voted with the French.
It was foolishly supposed that the 42 English, Scotch, end
Irish members of Upper Canada would vote as the 33 French
voted, but it was no such thing. Differences existed amongst
t°em, and the minority joining the 33 Frenchmen made
it clear that there was a majority of tho French
against the English party. Besides the el mted
Legislative Assembly, there was a Legislative Council, corn-
pued first of the 20 appointed by_ Lord Sydenham. Sir C
Begot appointed 5, and Lord Metcalfe appointed 6 in 3
years: but how many were afterwards added? and with
what view, and preparatory to what events, were they added?
12 were added, not in 3 or 6 years, but in 10 months, which
the noble earl opposite said had nothing to do with the
Canadian bill, because it had been contemplated so far
back as August. But only 1 had been added
from that till January; and when the 'prior rose,
with all its ethereal mildness, tending to Wing forth
the crops, it produced, not wheat only but a crop of peers.
He sowed them broadcast and up they sprang.
.Lord STANLEY—They were dibbled. (Laughter.)
A NOBLZ Loan—They were drilled. (Loud laughter.)
Lord BROUGHAM (turning to the noble lords behind
him) observed that amidst so much agricultural knowledge,
it was diffteult to get en. (A laugh.) Of these 12, 8 were
takes from Lower Canada and 4 only from Upper Cando-
-8 from the French and not loyal, 4 from the English end
loyal ; thus turning a minority of 7 into a majority of 6.
A general power was *eked for making peers. He believed
they sent over • long list—many more than 12—and allowed

the crown to deem out of that list, which was in f•et the
IMO as pi vbw a carte blanete. The Legislative Council
being packed by those 12 peers, and the legislative body
being packed by the elections, then they proceeded with
their project. He wished to remind their lordships how it
was that men might get pasestion of the government in
Canada or any of our colonies, while such • thing
was utterly impossible in England. There were
ten ministers ; each of them Cal interest ; and
suppesing each to be able to get two perons elected,
these 10 ministers had a majority at once, which gave them
the command of the legislature, and, under the doctrine of
responsibility, gave them the command of the government.
Mr. Lafontaine having the commend of the eremblv, gets
the governor—far he was tie puppet or tool of wine Ter
commanded the assembly—to pivot him blank tickets for ap-
poi tments, and every thing being thin prepared, a bill for
a purpose never before contemplated in any colony was
brought in, vise to give compensation for lone' that might
have been sustained in the rebellion, through commissioner',
where report was to have the force of judgment. And
now he was about to state what he understood to be a
fact, which the journals of the Canadian legislature proved,
and which at once negatived the assertion that none but
the loyal were to be compensated. Ile alleged teat
it was intended originally to compensate others than the
Meal, and that it was intended to draw no such wholesome
line between the loyal and the disloyal. The act bad le en
originally introduced without any exceptions at all. An
exception was after wards moved, but the resolutions intro.
duced cant-fined no exception whatever. A Mr. Button
submitted a motion which introduced an exception, end the
exception was this :—`• Provided that nous of the peisons
convicted of high treason lice. November, '37, or who have
been charged with high treuon, and have been coin
milted to the custody of the sheriff of the gaol
of Montreal, submitted themselves to the will and
pleasure of her Majesty, and were transported
to Bermuda," &ie. Now, this exception was in the original
frame of the act, but it was not in the revelations, and the
resolutions formed the groundwork of the act. Mr. Bolton,
however, moved this exception, but then this exception was
not enough, for it referred to patrons " convicted of high
treason, or charged with high treason and committ• d to the
custody of the sheriff, and submitted to the will and pleasure
of her Majesty, and been transported to Bermuda." But
what became of the persons not convicted of high treasen,
but who had been transported to Bermuda, and were never
in the custody of the sheriff ? It was clear that such
persons were not within this exception. (Hear, bear.)
It he were told that this was all blunder, he was quite veil -
ing to say very possibly it is, but that is the very reason my
motion should be adopted. (Hear, hear.) Hastily done,
like all the works of violence—imperfectly done, like all the
deeds of factions—rashly done, like all the acts of • tyrant
resj• rity temperately advanced to power; it was very rotate
ble that it wee full of blunder, but that was no lemon why
anent should be given to it. (Cheers.) But suppose •
_per-
son not convicted of treason, and not sent to Ber
nude, but who had bten in the custody of the
sheriff fur treason, and had submitted himself to the
pleasure of her Majesty and was let out, that person was nut
within the exception. Again, suppose a person not consicted
of treason, not banished to Bermuda, but submittirg to the
pleasure of the crown, and never in the custody of the
ahetiff, that person was not within the exception, for their
lordships wculd bear in miud that the copulative conjunction
" and," and not the diejunctive " or," pervaded the enure of
the resolution. Therefore, • large class of traitors and rebels
were not excepted from the benefit of the act. (Hear.) But
this was not all. A Mr. Wilson made • motion in the assem-
bly, to the effect that all persons aiding or abetting the late
rebellion should be excepted, but the government defeated
that motion by a majority of 16 in the united parliament;
sod them teat defeat he (Lord Brougham) drew this concha
aloe, that the minion was wilfully and deliberately re jetted,
and that the government of Canada, with its eyes open to
the construction of the act, intended that a line should be
drawn between the rebels and the loyal, but that all should
be compensated with the two exceptions already ad-
verted to. A large majority of the English representatives
from Upper Canada voted in favour of Mr. Wilson's amend-
ment. The numbert were these: teethe bill at large there
were 22 French and 15 English members, makieg 37 in all
in Lower Canada. In Upper Canada there were 11 fcr and
14 against it, That was for the bill generally. But, upon
Mr. Wilson's amendment, there were 27 English (22 from
the upper province and 5 from the lower) against paying
rebels, and 15 English (13 from the upper and 2 from the
lower province) for paying them. But he deducted sof Mr.
Lafontaine-'s and his ministerisl party from these 16, and then
he found that there were 27 English against paying rebels to
10 who were in favour of paying them. This was nearly
three to one—a very large majority against paying rebels.
He had no official uespech to communicate, but be had re-
ceived a let:er, dated the Gth of June, from •person who had
left Montreal on the sth. lie stated that he had left the
latter place in a state of the greatest possible excitement—
that the British population would prefer to jein the United
States rather than pay the losses the rebels had sustained by
their own misconduct, and that, should the bill be sane
Cloned, Canada would he lost to the triiish crown. This
wss the writer's opinion ; but it was not the opinion of him
(Lord liroughem).
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE—Hi ar, hear.
Lord BROUGHAM could assure the noble marquis that
the writer was as loyal a man as any upon the treasury
tenches, and that when he said the excitement was great
at Montreal be was entitled to credence. (Hear.) Was it
very much to be wondered at that such excitement should
exist? Us (Lord Brougham) believed that a more
fatal mis:ske could not be committ d than in came
'lag out the doctrine and pre ice of responsibb
government. If such a government were good tor tee-
med', it must also be good for Jamaica, Trinidad, and
the Cape; but where should we have been if we had held
the ductilee of responsible government in questions relating
to slavery, when Mr. Conning said, " Never, never trust
slave-holders or their representatives to make laws reepect-
log slavery." He did not call upon the house ahsolutely to
refuse their assent to the present bill, or to petition the
crown to withhold its assent, but he asked them to take care
that the b-11 be made clear and intelligible—that if there
were errors and t hinders in it they should be corrected—
that if exceptions were not made with reference to rebels
claiming amp sesation for their losses, those exceptions
should sow be added, and that until these exceptions
were added anent to the measure might be suspended, bas'
not refused, in order that due time might he given to have
the amendments made. (Hear.) He believed that America
tountad every day an age until she heard that this bill re-
ceived the royal assent—that she counted every day
an age until hog] end punged her fellow-subjects into
the gulf now yawning to receive them. (Hear, hear.)
Besides the lust of power, which increased in proportion to
its gratification, there was a positive, direct and prevailing
'interest which no American doubted. There might perhaps
be some doubt as to the interest of the seuthern states in the
annexation of Canada, because it would tend to increase the
preponderance of the northern or antialave states, but even
these southern states were anxious that Canada should be
absorbed in the union, for this region, that it was now the
grt at refuge for runaway slaves—and at this moment there
were 15,000 familia of runaway slaves in Upper Canada, an
that besides the general love of American rule and American
fame by which all American citizens were more or less ie-
if uenced, there was in the slaveholding Ltates of the sulk
this strong motive also. We had withdrawn protection from
our manufactures, not se the American,. They desired to
increase the protection on theirs. What new prevented it t
Upper Canada, a frontier of 1,400 or 1,600 miles, which it
was utterly and absolutely impossible to protect. No
amount of American police or of American militia, much
less of custom-house or excise officer, could prevent a bele
of goads crossing that extensive frontier into America. A
friend of his sometime sines saw • number of hatchets in
Illinois. He said, " These look like our manufAture,"
" No," replied tee American with whom he was speaking,
"you cannot make them." S.,metime afterwards he re-
turned, and found that they were supplied with the same
des:ription of tolls from Birmingham. It appeared that
uather party went there, and seeing the American hatchets,
inquired what the y were sold at he was told 1 dol. 25 cents.
etch. He undertrek to send them a consignment from Bite
mingham, and he did send 25;000 hatchets, which were sold
at half • dollar each. Notice was given to the government
and the excise, and down came the custom-house officers
and militia to seize them ; but the attempt was futile, for
' when they arrived, they found them all sold. Every man
tad bought his hatchet for his half a dollar, and carried it
off on his shoulder. And thus it was with all other articles
of manufacture : the difference et the price was such! that
no men cut-tom-house regulation would pr event their intro-
duction. All we required to ensure the introduction of our
goods into America was a frontier; that frontier we had
while we peuseeed Canada, and that the Americans knew
well. (Hear, hear.) He had long thought, and he
had more than once expressed that thought in that h•use,
that it was a very great error in the teaee of 1782, as Lord
St. Vincent told Lord Shelbornee to keep the Canadas, and
not leave them to the United State!, and there were many
others he believed who thought so too; but he could not
forget the reply which L rl Shelburne made to that objec-
tion :—" Show me the instance," said he, " of a great state
consenting to give up a great colony like Canada without
injuring her character, and trenching on her renown. If
lit be tale n from you by force, that is another question ;
but you cannot, without a sacrifice of character and power,
make a voluntary surrender." He fairly confessed that the
inclination of his opinion since 1838, what the subject was
last broached, and when he held to the opinion of Lord St.
Vincent bad suffered a material change. He had
bed mere intercourse with them since that time,
acd tho consequeecethat lie entertained
greater respect for, and stronger sympathy with his
Canada fellow-subjects. (Hear, hear.) It was impossible
to be aware of the strong !Mines of loyalty which pervaded
the great mass of our fellow-subjects in Canada, and not feel
that it would be a cruel policy to take any steps to throw
them into the bands of the Americans. He called upon
their lordships to sive their Canadian fellow-subjects from
the effects of this whim of responsible government cirri
to an absurd and reckless exert ; he implored them to adopt
the resolutions which he was about to submit, acd which, '
he believed, would act as oil on the troubled waters—(a
laugh)—and restore peace and contentment to the colony.'
The noble lord coat ended by moving the following rens-
lotions :
That by an act passed in the parliament of Canada, Intituhed "An
Act to provide for the Indemnification of Parties in Lower Canada
whose Prqrerty was destroyed during the Rebellion in the Tears 1837
and 15438," no security is afforded afraind. compensation for ices sus.
Dined in the rebellion in Canada in 1537 and 15438 being given to
persons engaged I. the said rebellion. That it is just and necessary,
either by recommending a further and amending bi Ito the legialature
of Canada, orb' such other means as may be effectual, to provide se.
corny against any compeneation for tomes snstained la the said rebel.
lion being given to persons engaged is or basing aided or abetted the
same.
Earl GREY had listened most attentively to the speech of
the noble and leveled lord, but lieut.-seed that at its close he
found himself as little able to comprehend as at the begin-
ning of it, what was the great public object he had in vow,
or what the great public interests the noble and learned lord

thought would be answered by the passing of his resolutions.
(Hear, bear.) He had heard from the noble and learned lord
a reproduction of all the party arguments which had been
urged in Canada on the question, on which t: at province
had unfortunately been so much divided ; he had heard from
him remarks calculated to please one party and aliena'e the
otheffle'had heard the noble and learned lord give at very
great length his opinions on certain abstract qui atiffis of
colonial government, and many other matters but little con-
nected with the subject before their lordships ; but he had
not heard one word of explanation how the aeoption of
these resolutions woutd h nd to promote the secomplishmtnt
of the all important object of facilitating the hermot.ious and
prosperous government of Canada by: the authority of
the English crown. (Hear, hear.) No explanation of how
the noble and learned lure considered the government of the
province could be advantageously carried out after the wishes
of the great majority of the representatives of the people
had been set at nought by the decision of that bcuse—(heir,
hear)—or hew the interference of the House of Lords in the
way proposed could tend to facilitate that most difficult task
—a task, however, no lees difficult than important to accom-
plish—the Retain!: to this great colony that enjsyment of
practical self government and management of her own all
lairs to which she was entitled, and on the other hand, the
msiotenanoe of the authority cf the crown and the mother
country. (Hear, hear.) At all times this was a difficult
problem, when a colony had reached that stage of progress
at which Canada had now arrived—numbering, as it did, a
population of one and a ball millions, and baying increased
in wealth in proportion—it was at all times a d lhcult pro-
blem to reconcile self-government in such a colony with tho
maintenance of the authority of the crown and the mother
country, especially under such circumstances of excitement
as now existed ; and when the soble and learned lord celled
en the house to interfere by passing these resolutions, he at
leant expected to bear from him some explanation of bow he
thought that object would be faelitated by such a step.
(Hear, hear.) The noble and learned lord began by stating
that from the day that Lower Canada was cffiquercd, she
bad remained in heart and spirit alienated from the Bri' ith
Crown, and had been kept down only by force. (Lord
Brougham here intcrpcsed an expression of dissent.) The
noble and learned lord said that was not what he stated. It

might not be the exact words, but be would appeal to those
who had listened to the noble and learned lord's speech,
whether he was in any degree misrepresenting their spirit
and purport. The noble and learned lord, following
the history of Canada from the date of its con-
quest from France, said that with respect to
Lower Canada, it was the power of England, not the
affections of the Canadian people, that had preserved the
connexion. Those who attended to the noble and learned
lord's speech would also remember en allusion (which he did
not think altogether decorous) as to what were the circum-
stances which were conside red by Lower Caned', and that
amongst them was the =liter, power of England, which
the noble and learned lord represented as that which
bad the principal influence with the colony in preserving
its all. glance. Now he (Lord Grey) must say that this
was altogether an erroneous view of the matter. (Cheers.)
For many years Lower Canada was greatly attached to the
British government. At a very early pitied after the revo-
lution the justice and fairness with which Canada was go-
verned produced their natural results. The people became
reconciled to British rule, and they were happy.. pees-
perou, and contented. He did not deny that in 1837
and 1838 it was too true that disaffection was
widely spread in certain parts of Lower Canada, still
further was it from his intention to palliate the guilt of the
rebellion which er sued. Whatever causes might have occa-
sioned that discontent—and that there were causes subse-
quent inquiry had proved—but whatever cause of discern' ent
then existed; would have been remi ved sooner and mere
eflectua.ly, no doubt, and without the price of the suffering
and calamity which had been endured, if the complaints of
the colonists had been investigated at an earlier
pale d. But though it was true that there was
disaffection at that period in Lower Canada, did it
follow that we were for ever to regard the people of that co-
lony as aliena'ed from us because they were then be-
trayed into rebellion ? He wondered at such a doctrine
coming from a man of the noble and learned lard's
experience in political life. And to draw such
distinctions as the noble and learned lord drew
when he spoke of the French Canadians not as the
disloyal party, but as the petty not loyal, was calculated to
shake the foundations of British power in Canada, and was
in direct opposition to the policy of the wisest and greatest
sovereigns and statesmen of the world. It should not be
forgotten the circumstances under which Canada was added
to the British Crown. The conquest of Canada was achieved
during one of the most successful wars in which England
was ever engaged, and in which the success and glory were
in no slight degree owlet; to the fact chat the great minister
who conducted it hadadopted the generous policy of burying
in oblivion past rebe.lion mud past treason. He need scarcely
remind their lordships that there was an interval between
the suppression of the rebellion of 1745 and the war the
resold of which was the ceding of Canada, eciircele nger than
that which had elapsed since the last Canadian 7tbelllon. It
was scarcely more than 11 or 12 years alter the highland
army had penetrated almost to the centre ef Eaglan 1, end
that the house of Brunswick was almost stilton t r its fall,
that the war broke out; and what was the language of the
noble lord, the statesman of whom he spoke, in reference to
the prejudice which then existed against Scotchmen ? Ile
said, ' I have no kcal attachments when the serve e of my
country is cancer. ed. I sought for merit where it was to be
found; and it will always be my beast that I was the first
minister who lotted for it in the highlands of Scotland.
Titers men, who had been fighting Rimiest you,
were in the I ist war brotteht to fight r n your
vine and to conquer for you in every part of the
world." In France, when 11- nry IV. was restored to the
throne ol his ancestors, did that monarch look wish the un-
forgiving spirit in which the noble and learned lord regarded
rho Canadians—upon those who had oppeeed him ? Bid he
remember their effences after all cause of oftnace and host
lity had passed away ? No. Henry the F.urth's maxim
was, that no distinction should be made between those who
had been for and those who had been against
him in the civil war that had pre ceded h s
accession. And what happened ? It was true that
those who called themselves loyalists were as ells-
centented sa certain parties in Canada were now—that they
had not the monopoly of power and of royal favour. But
Henry the Fourth listened to no such pretensions—he ex-
tended the same fairness and the sine favour to all his sub-
jects; and the result wall, that that great and wise king died
idolised by his subjects of every class and of s very rciieion,
and to the latest day his name retneintd the tower of
strength of the houses of Valois and Bourbon. The whole
spirit of the noble and learned lord's speech went to recom-
mend the adnptien of precis ly the opposite poticy. (Hear,
hear) The noble and learned 101 l had referred to Nr. Le-
fmtaine, whom he charged with having been amongst the
disaffected ; and his speech was full of complaints
that he should have risen to power and pc 'Won—
On the principle he (Lord Grey) had put forwaed, even if
Mr. Lafontaine had been implicated in the rebellion, when
that rebellion was over, and punishment had }teen carried as
far as government thought it right to carry it, it would have
been unwise to exclude a man of his talent and influence
from his fair chance of rising to distinction in the public
aflairs of the province. (Hear, hear) But he must beg
leave to inform the noble and learned lord th it it was utterly
untrue to say that Mr. Lafontaine had ever been implicated
in the rebellion, or that he had ever acknowledged an
such implication. (II•ar, hear.) Mr. Lafontaine, on Ma
return to Canada, challenged investigation
:into his past
conduct, but without success. (Hear, hest.) Ho come
new to the noble arid learned lord's objections
to the act of the Canadian parliament ; and first
he would advert to what had fallen from the
noble and learned lord at the close of his speech, explanatory
of the object of his motion. The noble and learned lard had
said that his object war, not that the crown shoed be ad-
vised to disallow the act, but that opportunity should be
given by its suspenti in for the colonial legislature to re-
consider its decision. He (Earl Grey) confesicd that it ap-
peared to him that the interference of teat hove in matters
of colonial government, and especially interference with a
view of calling on the crown to control the representative
legislasion of our great North American mimics, should be
confined to very extreme cues indeed. (Hear, hear.) He
ales thought that it they interh red at all they should do it in
a clear and COT sti•utional way. If the noble and learned
lord's object was that the crown should take a certein course,
he apprehended that the proper and constitutional way in
which that house could make known its opinion would be by
address to her Majesty. Let their lordships permit
him to call their attention to the actual facts of the
case. It was true, that in 1837.8 disaffection existed to a
lamentable extent iu Canada, and that in the course of the
measures necessary for its suppression much destruction of
private property took place, and he believed belonging to
persons on both s'dee of the question. Very soon atter the
suppression of the rebellion immures were taken giving
compensation to soma of the principal sufferers. The special
council of Lower Canada passed an ordinance, by which at
different times compensation was given to certain clamp.
The sum of 61,000/. was distributed in Upper Canada. The
first act for extending the relief to the sufferers was disallowed
by the crown, on the ground that the preamble content-
plated the drawing the money from the imperial treasury ;
but in 1840 an act was passed free from that objection, and
allowing relief to be given to parties in Upper Canada. By
that net it was contempleted, undoubtedly, that relief should
be given only to those who had incurred losses in support of
the crown ; but in 1841 another act was passed by the legis-
lature of Upper Canada, in which advisedly, and on purpose,
the terms on which relief was to be granted were extended
to losses sustained in consequence of violence on the part
persons is her Majesty's service, or of pi none assuming
to act on her Majesty's behalf in the suppse sion of the
disturbances. Their lordships would observe that by those
words compensation was extended for acts done by her Ma-
jesty's troops, reseed er and irregular—end here, allow him to
say that the noble and learned lord had been very s vete on
hi-a for appearing to be ignorant that the meaning of an act
of parliament could not be gathered from the explanation of
a governor, but from it, own text and context.
I thank thee, Jew, for teaching me that word.
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He called upon their lordships to read again the words 01
the statute, which they would find in page 31 of the papers
which had lately been laid on the table of their lordships'
house, and to say whether it confinedcompenaation for b s'es
to persons who had taken one side or the other in the rebel-
lion. But, more than that, he averred that comporsation
was extended to persona who had actually taken part in tkc
rebellion. But again, it was said that none of these gentle-
' men received compensation for property destroyed during the
rebellion, but merely for property taken for the use of the
troops, and for which they had :mired notes of hand.
Here was the answer to that assertion. He held in his band
an extract from the Canedian debates, and from it he would
read the reply of Sir Alan MeNab. By the way, th' noble
and learned lord had been quite romantic about that gentle-
man's exploits. No doubt that gentleman had done good
terries, but the noble and learned lord was a little in fault
when he talked of the great actions in which Sir Allan had
fought and bled. Ho believed that in point of fact the