The Express.
London, England, 1847-07-01 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF CiiI3IMONII.--WEDNEtitui. Rum 30.
The Sertaxxx took the chair at twelve o'clock.
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BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that as the greater of
the private business of the session was now 4 be
proposed that in future public business should begin at Issif-
past four o'clock. As the period had arrived wise tie Yon
was acenstomed to have moraimg sittings, he amid
to take the renewal of the Bill for the Susperies=e
Navigation Laws on Friday, at 12 o'clock.
NAVIGATION LAWS.—FOREIGN CORN.
Lord G.BENTINCH said that he had put a question to hie
right bon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on Mon-
day last on the subject of a return which had been made by
Mr. Parker, professing to give the number of foreign ship
Wes with corn and the amount of their tonnage which had
IMO to this country during the suspension of the naviga-
Wm Jaws. It was headed " Navigation Laws and Foreign
Ora," and was laid before the house on Friday last. There
was no hone yesterday, when the promised explanation was
.
to have been green by right hon. friend, and he (Lord G.
Beetinek) wished that explanation to be made. By the re-
turn it appeared that the whole number of vessels which had
abroad wee 638, the amount of teenage 63,655, and
lobs ofillthlllifilfleratioamingported. Thin return
very mystsrdes to the eonimerrial ermed, a
of 66 or 75 tons would not come in loaded with cirri,
It was well known that no foreign ships, except those
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hem the United States, were able to carry such weight., so
meth larger than the measure of their tonnage. The cor-
rectness of the return was much tote doubted. He held in
his hand the clearances from the United States, from May
22 to June 5, and only 12 ship. come from that country,
and only two of those were eons eyed to Cork and the
British markets. There most be a clerical error in the re-
turn. He did not intend to cast an imputation on the
government of dressing up a case with a view to the renewal
of the suspension of the navigation law—and he called on
the government to give an explanation of this return before
they made any motion to that effect He wished to know if
there was any objection to his moving for an explanatory
return showing the amount of tonnage in measurement, and
the weight of the cargoes in the 638 ships which was said
to be 95,000 tons, and the flags under which they. sailed, and
the circumstances under which the cargom were imported.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
his noble friend had impugned the accuracy of the return.
The treasury had directed a return to I e made of all foreign
ships which bad brought corn or co her produce to this
country during the suspension of the navigation laws, and
which could not otherwise have been brought in; and he
' believed the return had been made in cocordance with those
erections, and was strictly what it purported to be, so far ear-
ths port of London was concerned. The number of ships
wed amount of tonnage was as follows:
1181,8
ANEW 87,5570
of corn or rim ..... ..
72,8459,1•81erf 'eke
The gems might be said of the returns frost ether porta,
thonsitin such • large subject he could not guarantee that
there &odd not be • slight mistake. With regard to the ques-
tion pot tat him by his noble friend on Monday, he had
written to the chairman of the board of customs, and he
would reed a paragraph from his letter, which was to the
following +t: 'We are prepared to maintain the return
of the minder of whips so far es the port of London goes,
' and we do momlassan ahipe bringing in corn which would
not have boom Woe*t in but for the suspension of the nevi-
peon laws." "Me bad no objection to give returns for the
United Riegpient when they could be got, but he was oertain
ble noble Muth (Lord J. Russell) would not think of con-
mating to e the bill for the renewal of therrospension
oliogma mmlaws until such returns were furnished.
Lied 0. BINTINCK thought that in two days the re-
One might be made. As far as Liverpool was concerned,
he bad understated the case, for he was told that only seven
air SW skips had been returned from there.
Lea J. RUSSELL said that he believed the return was
gemerally correct. The purpose for which it was presented
was to show the operation of the suspension of the naviga-
tion laws. Whatever might be the case, he did not intend
to ma Ws gushes it the second rein of the bin fir the
mood of the mime* tithe a~ _ ditrawth ac the w-
eeny Gram nem. If and it was net bee that iIKOOO
geethen et awn bad ban Imported is Image alp ins this
eamitry, 001 he maiateird Sr eseassity ofhothesosepend-
isi titer laws till lst Mara.
IRISH DESTITUTION.—RELIEF COMMWEIRI3.
the D. NORREYS wicked to pat a question to the right
issie, ipetherat the fiessena he Ireland, on a matter which,
mit ellbesed the Wised born of the country to whisk he
rartNano's) belated, he meted he Wild chin the al-
oe of the Mar he mimed log roe aid& A
taper had been had an., the lath of the Mar heat
the relief wthairthewe fa Issierle and delivered to mar
here yetherthy,_whielt wee et a meth humiliating alawarest,
and athethed, Wink meth &pees upon the Irish sea sr
ttha Om erq he ewer sweembeeed wen a
bees predthesil
ham yeellereset. If the Rather wee allowed le 'meth is
OM 1110111 pahlia, with gessrel sharges allesd.rtg the while
Irth natio., the position of Irish thember in this hoses
read be imer hataffieting ; sad Nibs amps of the ern-
atheioners were borne oat, dm be hit that the erre el Ins-
isted was byelaw The cogemirisema who hal bee. ap-
poiated to caws into effect lite heist ha pawed at the cam-
monimeat of the swelia. bed, la the report to whiab
be *Wed, camp the relief esommitiese with gameril die-
and want of easesslnem in may* eat the proyi-
stnnses3 that set. This aerie wee made re seek general
terms that it was Magill& to as, die onsmiethaers were
not giving that ebereetwth ell the relief eammittees through-
out'lreland. In err Nees the eommithemme, he admitted,
stated that the relief seeraittees bad dose their duty pro-
perly, but they add, "from this depths el perfection, how-
ever, we notice the gradation to some orsoforaids. epirit in
the body ; a wrong feeling of one stain dm" ; a de-
ret arly or neglect on the wt of isms one or
whale • • yielding to intiinida er seeking popu-
larity, leading to the abandonment of any attempt
to cheek mrasonable demands upon supplies, down to the
let degree, namely, that of actual connivance at the grossest
heads sad misapplication of the means at their disposition,
which lest two are frequently effected by previously driving
sey well-disposed members from the committee by violence
or insults.' The commissioners then proceed to state that,
"Ia justification of ourselves and as a proof of the difficul-
ties we have to encounter in the endeavour to obtain a
=ladministration of the measure, we cannot refrain
aying before your lordships instances of the kind of
abases practised. The first to be mentioned is, the demand
la a wholesale way of rations for a greater number of
destitute than there are individuals in the entire population
of the district; this has occurred in several cases and for
thousands in excess. It is difficult to conceive the motive of
sash a realms course. With some it appears to
be an idea that, as an opening is afforded of drawing
largely upon the public resources, it should be the
endeavour of every locality to get as much as they can."
Bo that it would seem there was a general scramble as fur as
it was pomible. The report goal on to my, that " cohere,
who meson blind to the future consequences of such pro-
d...shops upon property, would completely drain it for
distribution among the poorer chases, under the delusive
hope, it is presumed, that the latter would then be
pornunely raised to an eatsand independent state of
esisesnes. The commissioners say further, that, "in
several insteness, the government inspecting officer, on the
seethed visits he is able to make to any one committee
(Wiv, pc tape, the charge of sixteen or twenty), found
no ,sulty in striking off hundreds entrees that ought not
le have been placed on the lists. including sometimes those
of servants, at ci men in the constant employ of persons of
esesiderable station and property." These latter are fre-
quently themselves members of the committees ; and, in
tome cases, the very chairmen being magistrates, have sano-
doted the issue of rations to tenants of their own of con-
siderable holdings, Roamed of live stock, and who, it was
found, had paid op their last half-year's rent. Intimidationi
(a very common cause debase') has, in some places, been
openly encouraged by members of committees. He (Sir D.
Norreya) heard it whispered by bon. members below him that
these cases were stated to be exceptions to the general rule ;
but hedefled any person to read the report without rising with
the impression that the Irish, as • nation, must be thoroughly
corrupt end degraded. No doubt there was ate eietenee in
the report which, to a certain degree, raised the exception
owed ; but that sentence was so weak and in com-
with the previous statements he h to read, as not
= the slightest degree satisfactory. The seetoes was as
MOM .—The commissioners say that, "in melanin on
thine unpleasant facts we would beg that It may be under-
shoot that they ere clearly exception, although eroMelent in
amble is ha iloptning of notice, sod la show la pint •f the
somilry a put want of the principles seesaw Its Waste
eifigemeonmet." But then In another pert of the same
diamment the sommissioners state, " we regret, Ireweveir,
le =port that la very many districts such is not the ease, and
allietworthy local m t in moot ere cannot be en-
nead for smaller dist:isle those of thine" Now after
the ranee be had reed, he thew& he was in san-
k. epee do inassise le ls, am tbltlYofthehate
Ss idiom up= ate Os thwththeleawe bed headed
di mat The truth theft* to be Dom se run re pot-
dth, ,in order that the eyes of iltopablte skald net be
bared as to the state of the ntYmhl charashr. If the
Irish gentry were really the people Eleadbed be this report,
let inquiry be grantsd, and by ii the veil emend. Hs
=tbat the oommbrosers bed blew oiled by the eth ,
sat thee districts by the aseeththerthL Keay at *eat /-1
bed beta ara who bad thbildled ere* lemesei
of ant hid thwas:ainLerhat titemees et
wand 011ie asealsy their sant as EMUS Of 8
• sati had la some mess spoken is had es
t= erborithe who hemmed le Mir fella