The Express.
London, England, 1849-02-20 00:00:00

GERMANY.

FRANKFORT.—We have intelligence from this
city up to the 17th indent. • During the discussion,
on the previous day, of the bill respecting the mode
of election of members of the people's house, several
speakers objected to the measure, on the ground that
it excluded journeyman mechanics and ser-
vants from the exercise of the franchise.
Herr Lows remarked, that the example of
England with regard to the qualification of electors
should not be followed, for the arrangements respect-
ing the working classes formed the least brilliant
portion of the English constitution. Moreover, the
esmoiteet Englishman had fah confidence in the
stability of the freedoms of his country, and feared
=itgafrom the deign of the monarch, the
, or the bereaserate ; that confi-
doses was wanting in Chummy ; in feet, a well-
feuded distrust was the order of the di in that
limif,Rl. The Minister et UMW dots
of the basehise was asionsey end adroit-
tepees. Herr Nailer was empised Net seek a bill
as the one in question weld matmelle hue ea assembly
widely a few months age, had god seenissudy pro-
delmedthesovereig nty of dr pimple. Hewuuldremind
the Amiably that it was joesammsm mechanics and
smishinta who had fought in Bata and Vienna for
liberty. Herr Basserman argued that the introduc-
tion of universal suffrage wadi be the worst solution
of the social question. The advantage of limiting
the franchise was proved by the present tranquil state
of Belgium, compared with the still distracted condi-
tion of Francs. Herr Voght, in the course of an
able speech, observed that Belgium bad been rehrred
to as a happy country, bemuse the franchise was
limited there, but Switzerland was also tranquil,
yet unbend suffrage there prevailed. As far North
Atameiek it was only the elavehelding statue that bad
estabihhid a omens as a qualifisatin kr the &dors.
bead; observed the weaker fa amdesisa, “ is
wasteatly rained to bat spa a ate emadastion
yea aft Madaleatlems. that its rest is rata, sad
tbst Sat Mks all be Ma:, by ems rams after
araerre, is athasal
The spoil dloilaionir the bill was wiremsseed
ea the 17tb
The of:rise lake" el the 17th Met, asserts
Nettheof the deassrats is as great now as
Is Seam* September lest; sad adds that the
sciamarlat of the city has aka energetic military
memo to peeved or pat down a mama outbreak.
Win meshed In Fraakkirt bon Widmann
slate Net the Smond Member resolved, em the 146
lad.th Net the close maim of all the brother rases
isitb: Marian Oulu* in a
could acme gesreates the auk, ot
Yetberisad la geared. sad dile libirty ea w
ive of the verbs istkiri Vat the M.

The West India steam-ship Avon, outward bound,
from Southampton, had been reported at New Orleans
as ashore at Moraces. Considerable excitement was
consequent on the arrival of the steamer United
States, from Southampton, which had been so
unusually delayed by continually adverse weather
as to have occasioned a good deal of uneasiness.
The dates brought by the Canada are as follows :
St. Louis and Cincinnati, Feb. 2; New Orleans,
Montreal, ar.d Quebec, 3rd; Mobile, 4th; Charleston,
Buffalo, and Savannah, bth ; Boston, Philadelphia,
Baltimore, Washiw.toc, Albany, Rochester, and New
Bedford, 6th; New York, 7th; and Halifax, 10th
instant.

She brings some interesting, though not very im-
portant, news. General Taylor was expected to
arrive in Washington about the 20th of February,
and preparations were being already made, on a
grand scale, to give his inauguration all the éclat
which the number and influence of his friends could
command. His opening speech was much looked for,
the general opinion being, and one derived from ex-
perience of his past conduct, that it will partake more
of honesty and straigtforwardness than are usually
found to characterise either royal or presidential
orations. It is supposed he will come to the
point at ones without fencing', and justify the patro-
nymic of " Rough and Ready." There is a good deal
of speculation afloat as to who will be his councillors,
but public opinion generally points to Messrs. Bell
and Crittenden, though some leading politicians be-
lieve that his cabinet will be made up of the most ta-
lented and active politicians of all parties, as he is ge-
nerally esteemed by every class.
The congress were still wrangling on the subject of
slavery, which promises at some future day to create
much bad feeling amongst the representatives. Mr. Ca-
lhoun is still stitklinir out for the southern planters.
and from his conduct and speeches in congress, would
lead us to the supposition that he desiredto haste*,
if not to create a rupture, which once begun, will re-
quire much time, exertion, and forbearance to heal.
The civic au'horities at Washington had almost una-
nimously forwarded a petition to congress, through
Major Games, for the abolition of slavery throughout
the union. Thirty out of thirty-five members of the
city council supported the prayer of the petition. It
looks se if slavery was doomed, and Calhoun and his
party were merely staving off the day.
A bill of a good deal of interest to the Canada' and
New Brunswick, as well as to the United States, which
has been under discussion in the Senate, seems likel3
to meet with such pertinacious opposition, as of iteelt
will defect the bill, if only for lack of time. It is a bill
for lowering and equalising duties between these
British American colonies and the United States, on
the importation of grain lumber, flour, animal,, &c.
The representatives of the southern agricultural inte-
rest specially oppose the bill, as tending to diminish
the value of our own agriculture. New York would
benefit by this legislation—for such a law, together
with the drawback offered by laws now in operation,
would in fact constitute the port of New York the
seaport of Canada West and of a considerable portion
of Canada Bast.

There were some romours still rife of a deficiency
in the Gotten crops, Floods had destroyed a great
deal of property, both at Pittsburg and Cincinnati.
The Peamaylvania dividends had been paid—one-
half is relief seta. In reference to this, the Coo-
nit- mei brim says:
Atter the smile recommendation of the governor, that
this discreditable esepedient should no longer be rewind to,
it was impel that the legslature of so great and rich a state
as Penasylesida would have rated its obligations of good
faith above se petty a saving as 123,000 dole., but the hope
has been illeeinted; and not Pennsylvania hith only, but
the good Mid if the United eta' s. war anoint the
mad added el Ismore, when dieniainination between
bard sad sees sob w idsralisats is so imperfect.
The intsiligmtes received at New Orleans on the
25th alt. frets the Peninsula of Yucatan, which has
been a prey to Indian devastations, indicates the re-
newed supremacy of the white race. Aided by a
regiment of volunteers from the United States, com-
manded by CoL George W. White and Lient.-Cel.
Besaspon, the Yucstooos seem to have completely
triumphed over their foes, recaptured towns and
citieewhich the Indians had occupted,and thoroughly
discomfited their adversaries.

The Mexican congress opened on the Ist January,
by a very satisfactory speech from the president.
Guerilla bands were still carrying on their marauding
warfare in every direction, and rumours of a fresh
political conspiracy in the interior were becoming
rife.

Me subjoined view of the present condition of
Mexico is from the New Orleans Tines :
Ilwrything was quiet la the republic at kiet acies, sad
Herrera's alletioistratiou .anted b carry vials the eyea.
patties ot the people. Eery setempt at tichelaindrected
that aria is the tosatry te teem the roveisfillairy y
mom
a roams *Pooh. rived abide" sod iseram
ea biome. As a pried tlee permtal Swaim Nth*
uric,
Ilfosikir die quiseseese via* leaps
siefibeleedies as aesalelleme Sea ill Sea
amok. et revel% imeeilie. tad penoilliesii
wee earn to allow Ile usilemies Nibs snip. Atlas
wee airyttegest the hie en ate tdb
to., tree aids sod jilialeettly, all Mild es( =es
bei isws assay eetehiesse lathe stabs pis.
melt. The Imaged patrie MN °Waft= 160
instry, and they mums be the Sift yew
eenuten et air ma nicety. The IMO ellosidis wee
she sea ate *demi iassoscomb yes-
by the =SA rers sad lie WYSS inset '
11=1 eosilles el* deem essualitree=t
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COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE.
The nuesatile intelligence to hand by this arrival is of a
character we did not anticipete. Looking at the glowing
aad alaost incredible secousts which were being from time
to time publhhed of the prolific outgoings of the gold re-
isaii*. sad as stilloquai atlo of the predoue metal
many the
leading imperious of 63111MINISO throughout
the anion, it was natural to last that an impair of a nor
kus would have been given to trade generally. Bo
far beiag Unease, our reports go to establish the tray
revues, and truism in all the principal cities and states is
stove dull and heavy than when the lut steam.ship left.
This snot damp to Deese output the hopes of thou who OW
Mostly intiOpielei thM ilessuat dinserries at the western
oast of the New Weld British would mete geed demand for
swashetiered
New Yoas, Pis. rt.. export from this port to En-
na and Ireksit for the westh of lin. Imams f,NI berm This,
OW bowels Oars Meal, OW Wait Whwa owl 411,140 WOW'
its
kegs pert hes Wes at Mks Chas for Prima The
value of mewls for the wait =Led PZiveres 161,3111 dela,
while the duties alone paid to es the mess wook.
exeseded 624000 upset stirckesdim =bra at abs ew owl a per.
ter eetll.l et dollar& Be again In the Irak am
Uth Jas., Ike total vales et mark wag 116,661 sod Wimps%
3,103,1011 data, paying a duty at MAU dela
BIUUDITOIIII.—e aost had farther aspresise
after the arrival outTh
et she Canada The Wawa earth astkiMir
is of a keel tharstar, sot /If ship stores, with a light Sessiwil ter
Celignsia. Sib/ lost prices wood ere dela. Ms. to
6 dole. We. kr Sty needs; I dela We. to Mk. le.
ter Western and coerce. Omen; and 3 Ids SOIL is
dais. 755. tor the bitter kinds. Georgetown, Aiessekte, end
mare, 6 dole. Ma to 6 dole. Slt4 ity• row. 3 dais We. Is 4 Baia
370. Own Neal, f dote. 67l to I dais it tansy idiom Wheat,
dull, at 12gc. to ink. per ans., kw Gesteree. maw,. awl Ma. to
1116 e. for Ohio red and meted. lye, We. to We. put NM. 115,k7.
It.. to lie. per 461 W. Oats, 40a. to 43e. pm hnsled. Wks Caen
lower, mad the market, in the Owen of as expert loses
hew*. white Jersey. We.; white and wised seehms, at =b. to
GOO.; 74101, toutilern, We. to 611., • sod yellow ambers. to We.
Cerrost.—Thereie wry little buttoned/dog in the silks market in
New Tart, or any ot the leading burn. Heiden did set sewn ear.
LOMB to peen mks, owing probably to the tots* of denim
The present tree. perhaps, moat remake NW et 1110-11; owl it
or spared with this it prolowes to es Ass* UN O Wee. The
news to,. Liverpool to the lith ot Jamey. rune a taw Wes at la
sum" but the werket he. noes Nailed to alga the pekes of a tact.*Mt_ SO
L e Wown quote middling 6/ to 7 forLlpleads, and 7to 7/
Setae Wet days &mow n t
fig fair 76 foe Upload%e 2 and
700 tobake. far Orions The asks for
17plead and Nett* New
Weida Odessa to Tex.
1,700 hake. 1,000 bales.
Wake
Cisinerp to good ordinary
Wllltalling to glad middling
eiss ado
rag liras lair 7to II 61 to et
BSI& MOM
Pannusees plot (OW peelte6) is ameaselatlng, and the
umbel has dertimil; Lege hearts Obis city Iswestad meld tads,' at
lf dole. Ilia is news; aka et PAM have Ws ash (se vraaW) at
13 dole. to if dela Us.-11n some btu as wanted kw home use and
Ortiftesis. New hest ht dewed kr enseimptisa. at 11 dolt. wo.
to It deb for mess; rest_ q PAM. IS dul. at 41 Ms. 73e. to 7 dela 75e.
Lard is fair request: Maw and hews see, et 61e. to 7a is barrels;
kegs Win la to 7/e. A mot et prime nes pork was gds for Li.
vales% at 18 dots. 2Ss. Gwen Ides (is kaes) in better demand7e. ala asked. Pickled swab Is dewsod, at treat fie. to la kr
hawk and
liss to.er tuduo 6e. for .leakier*. Cases Is kW request, at 11011
I prime. 1i...

Wn•Letwant held et 33e., with Ha eared.
WHALI a 4 &le. to 40e. ; the letter peke far 'fleeted weds.
heats rather fine w : 173 barrels Me et 6 doh. 30e. fee Pete, and
7 dole. 73e. fue Pawls.
_

aosssomme of Me firmness of Wars,
who are desalting idgber rates. Theist miss or reset beratine
were 'WM. He ire tend of Seam. Sikhs of Missiles, s44e.
s3c. emit, and Lie. toile. has. amass sada 1111 s. le Ilk.
Excasposs.—Tbste vas some &mail he tionliduss le
sad bills were mistim d previous to tbs Cmsfia's dePssrw attEreor.
Imam rotes: Oa Imam 10114 to MI with a9uLs ameba : Paris,
very few treamitises; Rumba* 34 to 344 ; Beemsa, TNN to 79.
Famine cosines sena la tbe isms peados a Musa we last
beard, tbe rates ease liskse es lams :—To Limiest : Floor,
pm barrel, Ss. to la Id. webs, pee badesio Id. to 16.1.; warm
3.16 d. • heavy rosy, Um to Vs. ; pernisions, in Ism& 2s. Id.
To Gliegow : 7sd. for OM, Saar is. 411., awl prosaism 30s. To
Ram, cotton, ie.: lobes, Me.. d dole. to 10 dais. To London :
Tobareo, 30.. to 40..; Sour, b. naval NOM. 113. at to
haveso, its. Id. to Us.; oss, per band, Is. To Califon&
rhea i less mann, and ase. raw; dole. 50.. to dais.
tor bane!,, and SOO. to las. per toot, us the ruling rota

SECOND EDITION.
ll.om the GAZETTE of THIS NIGHT.
INSOLVENT.

JOHN BALER, Wollmtee, adswinford, Worcestershire.

BANKRUPTCY ANyIILLED.

010/101 Buoxn, jun , Extter,land surveyor, Feb. 13.

iLiNKRI7PTS.

THOMAS JONN COLSON and WILLIAM MANNIIB COL.
SON. Upper linllowsy, brickmak•ra.
CNAatm thassow, Woodbridge, Suffolk, grocer.
Rossur OOHING, Brentfortl, butcher.
HINNY Hu ULPH, Forest-gate, West Run, Esicr, swab
sib, assn.

EDWARD BraLIT CLAYTON, ATll7llllll,Oe, Regent-street,
dentist.
Joss's CIAO°, Manchester, vietualler.
DAVID EVANS, Mel builder.
/AXES ROBINSON, 810111111, Burtnehsewhire, grocer.
6101011 MADDOCK, Bursitis, Stsfforttsbire, mew,
WILLIAM EAST EOLIERS, Lichfield, Staffordshire, coach
maker.
JOAN DICKINSON HARPRI, Derby, woollen drew.
JOAN MALLarr, Tiverton, Devoa.hue, grocer.
ABRAHAM Jamas Czewrnia, Church Garfvrth, York-
shire, draper.
Haunt Hantrazo, Moreton-in-Manb, Gloucestershire,
tailor.
JOILK HITCHES, Benton, Cheshire, joiner.
Ms SCOTCH Bzwonstarrion will be (baud in the last
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COMMERCIAL MARKETS
MONET MARKET & Cl INTELLTGENCR.
Two dace& Boats ormaiderable deliveries of
stock to-day, of last week's mature, have created
quite a disturbance in the funds. Consols have cle-
aned to, and are now quoted, 921 to 3 for money,
and 93 to for account. These rates show a fall of
per cent from yesterday. Reduced Threes are 93
to Three-and-a-Quarter per Cents., 94 to 1.
Exchequer Bills, 38s. to 41s. prem. Bank Stock, 194
to 6.

The foreign market remains with scarcely any
change in prices, and little business. Dutch Two-
a-Half per Cents. are 50 to 1; the Fours, 80 to 1.
Belgian, 81 to 3. Russian, 108 to 10. Brazilian,
81 to 3. Chilian, 93 to 6. Daniell lower, at 65 to 8.
lldexima, 261 to /. Peruvian, 48 to 50. Ecuador, 3
to 1. Venezuela, 19 to 21. Spanish Five, are worse,
at 17 to ; the Threes at 29 to 1; Pukes at 3/ to
41. Portuguese, 25 to 26.
The 'Avian from Hamburg or the 16th inst. repre-
sent an improvement generally in brine's, with a
proepeot of its continuance, as coandenoe was begin-
ning to revive. Sugars were in geed demand, and ob-
tained an advance at 8 -boo. per hundred
pounds on the quotations of the week pre-
aiding. Coffee was firm, with good berme, bat
holders not sager to make sales, expeedft to realise
a feather aura, as the dealers were firsrod to
be Trek oat or stock. In cotton the market wee
heavy, and buyers not at all disposed to listen to the
higher rates asked by holders. With so Lo-
wered a consumption of cotton, indigo woe eon-
dewed likely to sell well. The demand for wheat
hod onlolial, and roles could wily be anted at a re-
dollen spew tie pries ruling the week provisionally.
Maw oralleasi in the ears abundance, with farads
and dares all higher, but len tinnedhigher, forsold. There,
wr a brink exabangs, with bilk on London paid
MOM

CORN.-Arrivals at the granaries, by the Eastern
Counties Railway, for the week ending Feb. 18 :
Matt Beam
Wheat ...... 14Mel qM „rs. I Pees
Barley ........ ate „ Fleur llll, masts.
Oats
Ciaanomma, Feb. 19.-At to day's market we had a
Isteady trade. Wheat in good supply, and sales were effected
at an abatement of Be. per qr. Barley the turn dearer for
best sorts ; other qualities rule the same as last week. No
variation in the prime of other grain. Wheat, IW. to 121. be.
per tied. Barley, 24. to 31s. perjqr. Oats, 18s. to 25e.
Beans, Rh. to 40s.
DONCASTER, Feb. 17.-Both Wheat and Barley in less
supply. In Oats and Beans we have an avenge quantity
showing. Daring the week prices have declined a little at
most of the markets, notwithstanding small supplies from
the farmers ; there was. steady demand for Wheat at lanai.
tared prices, the market not being quits so brisk at the close.
Barley fully as dear for all qualities. Oats, for seed, and
Beans sold freely, at improved rates ; mixed, qualities rather
cheaper. Wheat, new, 15e. to 17s ; fine, 184 6d. to
20s. Bd. ; old, I6s. to 18s.. flee, I9s. to 21a. Blend-
corn, 12.. to 15s. ; flee, 17s. Rye, 11.. to 126. ;
fine, 13.. Beans, new, 10s. to 12s. ; fine, 13.. to
146. ; old, 13,. to 14e.; fine, 15s. 61. Peas, grey
12s. ; whit', 13s. per three bushel. imperial. Oats, new,
16e. to 18a. • floe, 19s. to 225. • old, 17s. to 20a. ; fine, 21..
to 245. Bailey, 245. to 288.1 fine malting, 19.. to 325.
per quarter.
LANCASTRE, Feb. 17.-Our market was very barely sup.
plied with Wheat, which sold but slowly, at a reduction of
ed. per load. Oatmeal in better supply, and in much better
demand. Prices of last week maintained. Wheat, per load
of 2801 b., 30s, tai 33e. Oatmeal, per load of 2401 b , Hs. to
to 265. Bd. Beans, 19..
Ymusotrra, Feb. 17.-We are only moderately supplied
with corn, but the principal markets are dull and lower,
which cause, our trade to be very inactive fxr all grain.
Wheat is le. lower. The best melon Barley fully as good
bet ether qualities are a very slow sale. Beans and Pvas sell
only in retail. Oats again rather cheaper. The weather
remarkably tine for this time of year. Wheat, white, 46e. to
48a. ; red, 4251 to 465. ; Barley, 265. to 31s. ; Beans, 31e. to
34e. ; Peas, 33a. to 345. ; Oats, 18.. to 225.

HAY.—Surrirerno, boo o'Clock.—Messre. Cooper
and Davis report trade heavy, at the fo.lowing quotations
Prima Meadow, 644. to 74 I Rowan.. 40a. to OW. I Ittraw....lle to 301.
60‘ to tok Cloven. 604 to libs.

CATTLE, &o.—Total of Cattle received in London,
by the Butern Comities Railway, for the week ending Feb.
18 :—Bents, 1,410 ; Calves, 85 ; Sheep, 4,958 ; Pigs, 339.
larzarooL, Feb. 19.—The supply of troth Beef and
Mutton was smaller than but week. The demand dull for
each, at about last week's prices. Beef, 44d. to 64d.; Mut.
ton, 64d. to 60. per lb. At market, 1,75.5 Beuta ; 6,066
Sheep.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAY. FEB. 19.
The LORD CHANCILLOR took his seat at b o'clock.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PUI7IOEB.-7110 Earl of Y.CILLNION presented several petitions,
from Tarim places, against the alteration or repeal of the navigation
laws • and from Ayr, sgaimit the Mintage (fiewlandy BllL
SECOND READlNol.—Yarriage (Scotland) ; Itrtaing Births,
tho (kotiand); COrrupt Proelkes at Entices; B
CASE OF MR. W. 8. O'BRIEN.
The Clerk of the Crown in Ireland appeared at the bar
end returned tie writ of error in the case of W. Smith
O'Brien.

COPYHOLD TENURE.
The Earl of CHICHESTER asked whether it was in-
tended to introduce any measure on the subject of eopyhold
tenure, and if so, whether it would be permissive or com-
pulsory.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the subject was
under consideration.

CORRUPT PRACTICES AT ELECTIONS BILL.
The LORD CHANCELLOR, in moving the:newt lead-
ing of this bill, called the attention of the house to what had I
taken place in Parliament on this subject during but lesion.
Their lordships would recollect that near the close of ion
melon, a bill came before the howl:, the intention of which
wee to authorial, a committee to inquire into mitten
which had taken place at elections where the
charge of bribery was made. That bill was of
a retrospective ehuracter, but the nature of the biU
the second reading of which he now moved, had no re-
ference to the nudity of returns. This bill was intended to
apply an adequate remedy to the evil' which they found to
arise under 6& 6 Victona. It provided that when corrup-
tion and bribery were proved before a committee, the com-
mittee should report to the House of Commons, and the
house should decide whether a commissioner should be ap-
pointed to investigate the matter.
Lord DENMAN said that he was lorry to throw any
impediment in the way of such a bill, but he must own that
every provision of the bill wee open to objection. They were
to have a commissioner appointed by it who would be armed
with a power that no other tribunal in the country pawned.
It was a matter very much to be considered, as it was highly
important that the commissioner should be removed from all
possible interest in the subject under his consideration. He
would mutat that the bill should be referred to a select Wm-
mitt's.

Lord BROUGHAM said that he would be sorry to throw
any impediment In the way of a bill that wu calculated to
destroy the detestable system of corruption and perjury that
wu adopted at elections.
Lord STANLEY said that he was sure that he eonld not
add much to the remarks which had fallen on the matter.
He would, however, call their lordships' attention to the fact
that, at a lets period of last session, a bill wu introduced
Into the House of Commons, and wee brought up' to their
lordships' house, but received their consideration. He
regretted that this bill was not one which possessed the same
character. It happened that, shortly before the bill to which
he referred was introduced, several persons, suns of whom
were high legal functionaries connected with the govern.
meat, had excited general indignation by certain
proceeding, which they a.opted at elections. Several
ere introduced by private members for the
purpose of having thus matters investigated before a com-
mittee. For soma reason or other her klajney's govern-
ment objected to them bills, end stated that in the course of
the session they would bring forward a measure to
the purpose, and it was not till the 13th of July
that a bill mu introduced enabling an iluivoeTnia%
lion to take plus into these matters, and
for future oars, and it never vaned their conadention,
parliament having been prorogued before they could enter-
tain it. He complained that they now introdined a new
inners which bad us Warsaw to the circumstances which
had taken place, but which merely provided a prospective
for all imaginary and impossible grievances. Their
remedy
would tied that there were most uneeedinary
provider in this bill. The. law r It stood at
this moment was_ gaits as effective r this bill
maid mks it. This bill, it appeared, provided that
if a coessaittee of the House-of Commons thought that
then was arm of corruption which war Insullciently in-
vestigated, they wen to recommend and aun-
ties tessese=sizr== and tor purpose to
appoint a ; end this, hi rue were a erst may
ha* bin &nog& either by a wither or coined beim
each' ibandrees,-17 intimating that &Awe cm
meths eaglet be sustained. If such a thug* wire
they leerols day %and, arcedieg to the 1/14
the efresseissess conneeted with the charge or hint; sy
wild Moe so elloosegve bst W moot with the inalry

The LORD CHANCELLOR said that all the attempts
which had been made to prevent corrupt practices at elec-
tions had proved inefficient. The bills that had been already
did not prove successful. It must be allowed that the
Hared
as it at present stood was not sufficiently opesative : and
that bribery and corruption took place more or less at every
general election. They had only now to judge whether they
would attempt to apply a remedy. Nobody could get up
and say that he wished the law to remain in its present stets.
It was found that the act of 1842 was not efficient in meet-
ing the evils which it was intended to remedy. The provisions
introduced in all bills which had in view an investigation
into each particular transaction, were not sufficiently strong.
It was not became whiten°, were to be protected from the
consequence of acts which they have been obliged to confess
in evideneethat this bill was to be objected to ; for the object it
had in view, was the effect which their evidence might have
on other". The object of the bill was not to lay the founda-
tion for a prosecution for prialtie I. The ehject was for the
purpose of arriving at some legislative measure to prevent the
repetition of the facts disclosed at the inquiry. Thee. die-
closures would show informers how they were to proceed
against the parties accused.
The bill was then read a second time.
MARRIAGE AND REGISTERING BIRTHS
(SCOTLAND) BILLS.
Lord CAMPBELL, in moving the second reading of three
bills, observed that he need not remind their lordships of the
necessity of the marriage bill. They were all aware of the
convenience that would arise front the existence of conclusive
evidence of contracts which had been made, as then no doubt
would be left as to the rakes of women in Scotland. The
law of marriage in Scotland did not at present admit of that
condition, where a ease of cohabitation would appear as a
marriage. Deets a serum produced women of a very degraded 'clam, and gave rise to a very great deal of inconvenience: At
present any man who had Brent a short time in Scotland
could not tall whether he was married or not. A great
facility was also created in evading marriages. Marriage
contracts were performed all along the borders of Smelted ;
and it was stated that the chief print of Hymen, who lately
died, had, durinc his life, celebrated 30,000 marriages. This
bill provided that there should be documents registered
which proclaimed the contracts of persons who were married
by a religious ceremony. He believed that if this bill paned,
the same course would be followed in Scotland as in Eng-
land, where marriages performed before a clergyman or wit-
nesses were held good. All that was requisite was that
the parties 'tumid go before a clergymen, and have
the banns proclaimed ; the marriage was then proved to bare
been authorised. It was rated by some that no inconveni-
ence arose out of the present sys'em in &Gland, but he
should remind their lordships teat there had been several
appals made to the Court of Chancery in England
arising out of such a system. There was in this
bill &clause which provided registrars who were intended to
make an entry of all the marriages which had been property
performed, and which would obviate the evil he had jest
complaised M. There was a committee appointed last see-
sion to consider the matter; and the opposition of several of
their lordship., who were prejudiced by the representa-
tions made to them about this bill, subsided greatly on their
learning the true facts of the matter.
The Earl of ABERDEEN mid he regretted that he mutt
object to the second reading of the Marriage Bill. He did
not think that such a bill as the present was called for ; and
that such an alteration in the law affecting maniages should
he made as a means of perfecting a system of registreeion.
If the noble and learned lord thoneht that the law of
marriage in Scotland was defective, let him intro-
duce a bill irrespective of registration to alter the law.
He entertained the tenter n spect for the opinions of those
of their lordships who approved of the bill, but, yet, he
should say that the if, neral opinion of the people of Scotland
was in opposition to tt. That fact was proved, beyond con-
tradiction, by the number of petitions presented in that
house against the bill, and there being none in favour of it.
He therefore feltustified in stating that their lordships' beet
consideration and attention could not be better bestowed
than in a case of that sort. in which tie s-cial condition of
every man in Scotland was so deeply involved, and would
be so seriously affected, as by the changes proposed. There
certainly had been no complaints of the law as it existed at
present. But ho was happy to observe the noble lord oppo-
eke had not stigmatized it or spoken of the Scotch
people in such strong terms on this petition,
as he did last year. When aspersions such as these were
cast upon the people of Scotland, he (the Earl of Aberdeen)
felt it right to call to their lordships' recollection a statement
made in that house by the Ire Lord Liverpool. That dale
lord publicly deelared in his place the& taking Scotland a eo-
gether, " it was the best conducted country on the face of
the earth." It was a colloquial exprerion, but ft was im-
portant as tending to show what Lord Liverpool's opinion
was of the p.' pie of Scotland for morality. The noble brd
then went en to say that under alt the circuinstaeces
he was not sine of those who concurred with the noble lord
(Campbell) in the necessity for the changes he bad proposed.
It there was any crying, serious, or extensive evil, of course
it would be their lordthip duty to eerily • remedy- Bet, be
would ask where was the evil that called for the enactment
of each a measure as this, which would have the effect of
addicting and r stricting the best fee lingo of the people of
Scotland. It was upon that account he had already stated
that the measure dererved their lordships' meet attentive
consideration. (Hear.) He wished in the next place to
refer to the 18th article of union between England
and Scotland, which stated " that laws affecting civil govern-
ment and pokey might be made the same in all parts of the
United Kingdom, but that all laws &fleeting private rights
should be faltered only from their evident utility for the sub-
ject in Scotland." Now, what evidence was there in this
case that the proposed alterations were ler the advantage or
utility of the people of Scotland e None whatever. Cer-
tainly there should be /JIRO further proof of utility than that
given by the presentation of a number of petitions against
the measure and not a single voice in its foveae.
He, therefor., entreated their lordships to consider
well before they approved of such a bill. Their lordships
should remember that they were not 1. gislating for • people
acting under pr. Maly the same laws, or feelings, or custerne,
asthe people of England. They were not both Influenced
by the same opinions or prejudices. On a variety of robe
jails, eepecia.ly that which was now under their lordships'
consideration, the people of Scotland e-tertained opium
and prejudices totally at variance. with the people ofibis part
of the United Kingdom, Their laws .tire in many *spas
totally eifferent ; and, therefore, when alterations wets pro-
posed the decreed the very utmost consideration.
bill which as noble lord opposite had introduced
imposed new restraints upon the contemn of marriage
in Scotland ; whereas, those who had given the matter their
deepest attention, state, as their firm conviction, that it is
most rumba ior the morality and happiness of that eonetry
that restraints should be as much u possible diminished, and
that the 4:eduction of marriage should be made as easy as
possi"de. He was aware how difficult it must be for their
I .rdehios to deal with thee question properly without divest-
ing themselves of the prejudice, existing in this country.
But It was their duty, nevertheless, to divest themselves
of English prepossessions or prejudices whew, lees.
ladeg fir litottand, especially noon a quientiomegech m
that now Wore their lordships. The notions satertained
in both the °cuplike upn the subject of. easiniege were
kalteedifferent. In Es sad, marriage was by many con-
sidered indissoluble, and yet although it was said itmas la
dissoluble, it was disci every day, not only by swahaticau
sad lagialathe procesoliago, bet by what sataaated to jail.

dal ask Lay sae Medea Win thdr WM. for a
Awns. epos pub, the seimiedia of ahlawy by the
wV • we thatand, ea the row seW be, was is EllaiiVitiii;s:
sodded le hew the wide. Atheived. It visa
most easisosade, sapid, lei lee wiliest to say, dist mee-
tdap
la this ermeAry ins biliewialk. By the laws of
Milkedk wad dbethethe, bid it wee set a
eiersuat. He (the Rai et Abode's) wee wlllisg
or meat to say masses whisk might pew* jos*
ken gobs kite desk--' is seeds the maielifil=gi
laud sad idle selessare of die kw bat
The pollee ilielkod thee piethe/Ay esikad with the kw es
it stood. Tot lib ows pi" be lei se objeillis le the pia-
ciple of dis Ilegthrstlia lei le awe desiesthyrod
to any nawilliwa opus works Moo the MINN traw.
dap, what wee a seems at the redid bisidess
the essinel Wight of
his
gm hooey=
sp.
tiagi, imam. Mikis Mike they
hied witkirt purest kw. He eshouriedged dot all tar
desks mm iew sheath be diusersged as auk es
bid be did 1114181•10 they wee die rusk of the
law. He wadi ad eyed M the nide keg leg liwiree-reis
poems or were wire milled er mogul frith 14.111lik-
wise, he daunt the proposed issuers was ms
able, and with.very roped fm the laws of Ispland,"Lires
opislen that efe swerkge law of thetlead, as It stood, wu
Jost as Alden' or way law sluff be.
Lod BROUGHAM said it woe • most ushetasithe eir-
eusetime that the nankin sad regisloodos amid to
hue hese wedded together. (A kook) The moths were
wry bed, ter, doe& each sums eseeedned ispereasilme
thins. Om thes nosy
It eras Marivg=sweeint2sted to soth
gib the Bill, while it was jut the other way.
TM ht 3 surmised is. duo which was de/Molly improper,
• is his had kneed • put dui storebitter
tsetsegsimi the LIMA they say ethe r einsoutases. In
es eland the peewee law of lisedand wee eery szeilleet
Se approved of the prepped nesssies, and thought thus
sistrisisly
I esistery: Thee would throw lopidintents
ps. :am of desiestine sianisees, which wens always M-
end uksidevess. Hie sable Mead seer h:as
(,liar Bell of Abseil's.) dated that people could sot be
fawn al their iesolope lbothod. (A keel) Now,
as (LerElkooglioth) soli alio* that there were many
genus is Bestired Way igniend oldie facit—(lsegttlier)
—sol hew set wads* aey won married or sot.
(laughter.) His it wee • wry Moe thise to prove, the
rends wee the ISWIIMMIS twist et lidgedes to prove the
otpospie sad their its le pew* He believed
WweePreMinisi athism:ffitkiaa essi=lairlioaerries. ;co
. It Wahl boo Marta es a=l hie, that is Bosh
sieed
them go
Mid
Mb
I:4ll=saltsitee okimits. Me It • re.
et the Mil beam their LAW that it went
Eis the kw ef ainkges. wilhost say esteles-
woelekriethee with Ili law of Awes. (Hearlhmezi
his dear 'plebs that the sea seaa
Lad had due well he welkin himself to a re-
Atha of thous onevialith sad sosiliedes suet.
mob by whisk mew the wades state of the
be,, it was very podia kr visa to balseardlud by the
isthisse demos et kw ia lagland whe would be loath-
Asia is the dole, of the .solo courts. Os these
be was mewl is it.. the bill is the beads of
dodos y e, eats atamailisi to their ossoldsistios the
VirelfYr
hod advissed sad whisk he denied to be
Zed ofrIiRDIRN, is uphsellis, sthiesited that
way the who should judge ef the man of the eisadog state
at the law of pinky fa _tied its.. the "psi width
bed boss jut ddivoied by his sale sad keened fried,
might be Wend W isiebsslbielhe pester paths of disk
lovably'. thee woe poll West sad daunts* ups
*pp& tress aside= ef the Omits Id Soden& is emu of
cesteelsii sod dessothes sesenst ef dories-
Neely sr /loyal se co. )
hid been at the lteshho seilleg fir rams the Oserte
of dories, touides the melte of snob proseelep
thus it
the kid sham yews. And ken este aw-
ee
nless it appeared, that hi all that pried, sea doe the ex-
thissien et the old essissive of the sadist Con
. sheolal Cowls 4 sea us, Oates. mesh appeals
ken the Orals d lie tau bees preesested Is that
besse—(hear)—esel dthese datum, ia see (sly had the
esatises id the spurt below hese reversed. (Hear, bear.)
Oat of the whole 103 ewe of this kind that had loss Wu-
dual ado that curt, ealy sights= had both dully in-
pithead.
Lard CAMPBBLL begged to uplais, for the farther is-
/maths *I style kris that of the Ith cases alluded to,
the zianisges le 34 had boss declared to be velid ; is
31 se isatenio had NW/died their validity end the other
'mwe kit in sush a wile.es that, in .11 inns& pro-
it would Is be
ds passible to demonise who-
lbrais think's" is win good ce bed, is:lew.
(A
/Mos thee reed aseeend time, end esekeilled it
Tees* seaeighL Their lordship this efliewseL

HOUSE OF COIIMONS.—MeNDAY, Fan. 19.
The SPIAMIS took the choir et 4 Abet.
Bir R. Loom took tie oaths sag Me oat tar Deveashire.
Mr. F. Balling took the oaths sad Me east tee Reettbrd.
OUTHANFFON MALL TENIMINTS BATING
BILL.

Oa the soden kw the wits it seadthe et this bin,
Mr. COCKBURN ft, ffleivtaa s 'Hash&
cakestand W have • IS was scow Wended
by_this NI Is sate alweirante wader the annual vela, of
101., is the ems et the Mined fathead et the bawd, the
wassequate et white weal he that ell the rows would be
swept Wile maidelpel wed peibenestary lista It wee a
piece et asee d legitheites. It wee Wooded se make the
swans et man wise wore least able to
bear odd/bowl h=riereill the soma of large pro-
perty were to enjoy went inmeaft.lb hid peen seed a
pendia ben the twits aneell feethemptia, wha, W a
nalority of 23 to 9 Mouthed to give every wattles to
this The parish at IS. Pithy, whisk was plialealmt-,
sleeted by tab asse bums there the mar Maass is
Wes
bead te be • stalste thejaelty, aslsmissi against
this bil'. He meted sa ea wisiabasat that the bill lee read
a mead tithe Ws day eth maathe. •
_ _

Mr. WILLCOX seesaded the emeadeaest, cemeerrisa in
all the objesekno stated by his boa. eallesinae. The bill had
cee object I. view, whilst More wee a differ at its is the
haskgratad. It was a well fa amp's clothing.
Mr. MACKINNON said that Ifs rubs ia Southampton
were extremely heavy. There WINO 9,000 permits rated.
of ark= 1,000 rid no rates *heaver, end the rates fell
heavily ea the other 4,900. It wee prepeeed by tbis bill,
that if the rate was sot paid by the miewier of the very poor
tesessals, he should bays ths wer at is it hew
tbs rest, if)* 411•99 de, oepo if le haEsis lbei liers
lb' balked it swam d property * be said to
de so. Moue was Mk* sway the Modes
It the Wisest alms ts rots bs bet slabs is de hat to
pay the rate, by drilueVai so mash him rent. 'lbws
was a sasibar sf purr tessisests ha hi per Wawa,
who bad smolt sly property, sod thpisfrses wens
Eakin 10 or 11 per slit. se the wow bed bid sat.
Wises at ifs tows mud wen se Stew
fins.. la *Muss as Sweaty Marna pines a shallop
bill bid less pawed, sad lad walked prissily well. It bad
ambled the st to per Toss Is be more effectual
ass it bad iebee bean. TM bill was supported by a large
issiarity is army wiry.
Nit. COMPTON domed that this bill would not be a
herds* ea ths paw, but. tbs sestrary, would be very
adveMMIMMIS Is thew Manillas. was that the rents were
so hid tha• Sts WOWS esiM sat pt assn, aad if the oc-
cupiers wise mamas* Ise to pegmest at its. it fell very
betray es the dos hasesaMsb above sham

lir. RUHR mid that then woe is dada the poet teen
tell very heavily as swill proprietors. Simi& rest podia-
smut, by every seam in its power, try to Masse these
poorer thews to pa the rams ? The area otrepresentatias
aught to be *wear* sot diminished. Oa that gross& be
tted that this mode of logidadatt to mom the poet of say portioaler party wi. bog. They ought set to
take away Elm the poor mu asy ladmemast to pay his
Mo.
It,. MINTZ thought that the taste would be at the
may d the loadisaL He bad settling to do but sot to
pay the rotas, sad this the tisaats were all dietramisied.
Par the eased realiog
Agpied it
POOR LAW.
MIL WILLOUGHIT wished to ask the dad eammis-
• *mar kr the admiabitatios ol the poor have " if nay is-
• laillatios has lees magma that pew rates have boss es-
• wind la old el wages, seder the head of beseadest
carmiam la some pens et Lumahiss, modally at Asians-
se, nag the his twelve maths sad .wetter
. sormisr has hem temed ea that edgest by the esmaalesioa."
• Mr. 'Anise said that se Adel isformsties bad bees
imbed at the poor-law board mapealog the eireamessee
oiladedaile the has. bans& There yea as area of tho
band the espesditise a/ Wes to aid of hat
he &at there lad lees a penal dert hum
ow& mar in nada immaltalarZeimma. The loud had
• Mit so area esnalissiog mob
RISOLIIII 'WORM= IN MANOR
Mi. H. 001111ANZ IBMS& to haw whether the I
wahmea wht MI loss expelled from Treace
the into /minks bad Imes paid W emoent at
their to the leash main beam.
lAA 1. INISSILL maid sot 'wawa the speedos with-
out mdse.
Mr. & COCHRANE wad& repast dm qualm taday.
HILLIIII4I PRISON.
*Mamas SIDNEY asked the right boa. r limmary
the Rime whether the damelliimot lie
sieame Re w
=prion was a easerdomas of the
=et the sn Rola wished slit
lnow
wtheitima warms* sioest toMamsmd die odsplion el ea
=lima gam el palms Alias throughout the king.dew
• Sir O. GRIT did sot law that any dosadiliss odb
was at pnwat gelsg ea is the prima. • yeti VI
ma-
ism
altemitham had bees as* Ist the
demi to be the mama' a sad the =tll Trimmers.
mast hai et ammo reemameaded that the enarate
elioubi lam la view la the mastmeties of pole, =lit
was set his iareatise to Wag is say bill aatherising the or
metary dads to Weave ea milieu mast.
TOMO= TWISTS.
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Kt. zalliLierVagbasiaritol;;r7; boa the Isola
gummy tar tin boas ettparahast idiatitat tko
ke wag anneal
warm relative to tags sad tssupi taws bal
Mra the labia ? Ha thosaft ft tatvlialla that *ay
awls lave seek atoms previous to the disdain' at
Taripiks 'hero Dili.
Hr. C. LEWIS sad that tto rvu k had
hose hid co die abis at the does el last If say
furtika imbroglios two ouralli M aft wells poopoold to
ski

COMM &ATM
Kr. MUNTZ asked I/beam it
Mika to brims la say seems oil
as have *sir ova pole sad grew
dm Glebe emir rater.
de G. OW balievoi that ihe
a Owes bin *OW kw
Irak wilbilio
Isa
gm
eivoles tie ding st
ken Ile evaegg raw Na vegamialies
Well ea Ste engeetklasor saw
WIN demo maw skidiggif 0111471
usilwalmed that lb, stodge et lis
we sew Win a awn el lad • • '
la the Barbegair Metal
tone *mkt ea inoribea by the
be eetabildhed. be (lir O. Grey) the
titled to as vet altorg that liability,

EMIGRATION.
Mr. SCOTT roes to aik the tinder Sesestary of gate for
the Casein the questions of which kis kol glaa klm nodes
volitive to migration to the Australis* 'thesis. His rea-
son he ding ea was, Ma as was mil Mem to the
les. gentler% the Atws.Yaa Weeks Awl how in the
habil of missile while eed ammeyVetteudeshess
this merry, with now they prebend holt and
Maw the ear amber; and they a et
wane and peek& s reedy to roam into then terms, std get
rid of *MIS. population, by paying half the
inane of Om at home at a eel.=Li
what wig misted eini and bed Ism
carried asto a greet extant. Now if he was
ceimaly informed, and he believed he wee, 1,000
form for free pumps, %mai to 3,000 prem, and at
the mee of 101. par bond, had bee seat down to Delasisitire,
thereby sodding the Maim with the bards. ef Atha for
the INIMMINS of UM betted et ON PO MO. vi. eofilt
ham gene waive the misted melt. Ist isgehise IMO Of
the beset**, esught, and this at a time Mhos the appli-
cations for sighted peaseges were so MINN= that between
onwtherth 11111•6111 k -of those mignift edit have been
os paymmt lave to weds, while time whe psld
were to go directly. H. misestood that lbw were
notawe peses fie' that Dorset sad Wilts
we filledtzse2th by ream of their.
ambers, and who were awed to pew ea payment of
the meth He wished to *sew if that ere true,
sad therein* .eked—" I. Hew may free to
the Aumellam eoloni.m Is h she present i et
the Coiesial•ollies to giwito Domani Wilts. S. irbidise
ie ie Weeded to de the ems I. ether, and what awaries 8.
How mesh Mee i.e reseses will (at the amemei ems per
Used death sedate adak) east the esiosy to whisk they go.
4. How may more Mimes **km gem if the great
had bess made to sariesi arced of free pessingem d.
Whether it is intsedad that they Mudd ham the "sheens
over previa', apelike's* fee misted weeps and imiltheedy,
while these lathe see aegis& I, The mouth of eiiesial
foods at present available he malgradea."
Mr. HAWS. sold that there me se faisseton on the
part of the Hairation Cu'.ommiseim to eive a preference
to them two meties. The feses were that two ships were
Mid ea the berth at Plymouth, bat the ember of migrants
neerrarienbetegic=erdthelesey was made up from
the Ile did not beam that the
number wee ea gnat se had bass stele& This explanation
meld ski sieve mos ismer to themes& quietism. As to
the third, the MONINWIIII4 be about 141. a had, and.
of stmt* if the thirst* had bees " misted," •.a greater
=mbar algid have gam (Hear, Mr.) bray, no re-
hears was iseeried hr one caseaty over smother. The
MI at the dbpseal of goverameat woe now reduced to
about 50,0001.
Mr. SCOTT—But them has hem mimeses. Oa.-fourth
of the misted presagers are sow waling. I wish to know
whether them twe maths are to have the 60,0001., to the
erelnitha ef Esrlaad and Seriland ? If 1,000 forms,
8,180 perms bad Ma sett to Dorset and
,Srinat would be just 41,000 i., red would leave oily
Bel the resestaieg had for the whole of Great Britain
and hued. He shield be glad to know if any contemn-
dense whisk had Mos plea ea the subject would be laid
lea the table. This woe the mare desirable, se it might
semove the envision that the arrangessentaof goverment
"rem made with a view to akar the estates of certain gentle
men at the exposes of the rest of England. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HAWBS woe set aware of the mistime of any math
comespeadesee.
ANNUITY ACT.
Mr. MIME aid that dories last mien he had presented
may petitions frees Hanbergh relative to the Annuity
AM. He whited se Mow whither my report had been re-
ceived riposting the fflatiea of** ass, and whether any
somerse for its alteatloa were ematemplated daring the
present mica.
Lord J. ROWELL add that a gentleman had been sent
Se,lamb to mike hipsiries. His report whoa recoived
math be laid ea the table.

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SCOTCH FISHERIES.
Mr. NUMB voted whether any bushy had bees made
We the proceedings tithe fishery board of Scotland, or es to
the necessity of centlnuing that board ?
Mr. LABOUCHERE mid that Mr. Jobs Wears had
Scotland, and had fully_ isvestigated the enaction.
The purport of his report. which would shortly la laid on
told., was that while certain meseares should be taken
M nines the expenses of the fishery board. it would not be
impeding* to abolish it altogether. Government were pre-
mai to met en the suggestions of the report to diminish the
enpanws. bat ornately not to abolish the board.
HOW CORPUS SUSPENSION ACT.
Oa the of the day for the third reading of this bill,
Mr. J. O'CONNEhI. said he felt bound to take another
dlehien on this bill, bat to save the time of the home was
willing that it should take pion on the amendment of the
mob= lord the member for Aylesbury.
The SPEAKER intimated that the bill must be reed a
third time before the ameadment of the noble lord could
be
prat.
Mr. I. O'CONNOR opposed the motion, and oemplained
of the apathy with which Irish questions of the last import-
sues ware treated by English members. The hon. and
learned sombre oeoupied the house nearly an hour and a
remit the whip of having hatred sad aneour-
alai it suited their purpose, and without any
arese=sa =they came down sad asked parlianwat to ens
peed the einsitutiousl rights of the subject, to prevent the
Nee aspemiles of public opinion, whin their owa objects
hal hem alias&
Or O. GMT mid that perhaps he owed some apology to
hen..rallimaa who bad just sat down, he having
Mishit bles aims treaty minutes ego thee be had than
sash= ea Mew The Ma. egoism= enamel '-Drat
hang bola lammed that he moan hour ea lb*" bathe
LIZ= now for nearly en bear and a half, sad he had
twenty-1m Washes ohm rying he was only going
la geed mid speak he it seimelen (Haar, kw.) Now, on
PAWN laths he of the ainsalty ea the 6th of February,
theca itret no his. psmisima would be holed voting on
the mein ihr Wilke he disimileafteselsaar. f" Hear.'
owl konabeer) If wartime mall madam bin (Sir O.
Grey) of the aleimity of limitV eilkesees la Witham,
it would he the visa they had beard, because if ell the
estraneous matter it swished hen swaged. it would
have lima as ellMelve god a be hotter cob *ea It was.
(" Hear, bear." sad renewal Isogbior.) haw neither it
was semseary at present M miens the hirenhe, be-
muse the hew. samba be limenials bil threwn
out a seggemisa whisk sewed to met with the
accoimenvi at the heap—arealy, to Mks the de-
bate ea the emeatimmt et the amble huh appetite
(Led Nepat) oiler he third ZZI:sI the bilk this*
manhoes who dissented hem its new raserdles
thole praise' speMet k. If this were adopted, there
wwli bi samba uppeatunity of epselderg ea the man Twi-
ll" ad bee Majesty% ministers inlet dila della the Use
4malest they bad thought roils? 40 berses. (Ham)
The Ina. mamba. tor Nottinileua might be,. spared him-
self di the tremble of reading the waren naiades to the
ismilielhael wise of the Hams Ompas Mt Nobody
dished the imams value M be altiebsi to the previsions
of hoe ad I bat the ben. member mot know that the
valeta ausishativel avMharilbs had MI that °serious
slight aziel, whoa. k grim to reserve the mashation, it
would be memory to ennead the mt. (Hear, bees.) An
WM* had been gusted Ms the may el hh oath Mead
at the head el the sasna. ia it was esniesill
halt was net the iliest et the ananlea lb. est to la.
Mine with say moms ethe leaden at ea hierames-
ha who were the state, and delartiag
*ins gr, gm& lynliy, zr ia
ft woe priebely
=with d
icer.
johla view last year. that the saminden °Me apee AA had bens nen* ; ma, it those eatbadthe dbb
weeepead, as to tha base of the Habeas Carpus Act, were
=ln Wirt the gemnd pospeeitioa sow mole to su-
b, Ss hew snot iseillest that they were of
owl base last par to what they wow as. The eel bed
nat Iva edeteed spirit humiale ma thousands of par-
owles
het la beim& who were well atbotd. It had hem adores*
he hailers eadiVies el the issureedea ; sad
holism lad new by Modem Antal that this
wee set the imessat to he onvamlea. Biliseing that
that deities' weal& net new le *area, he hewed the bean
wain eimeat
hive eto the Oil ;nibs, sal peeped efterwarie
mils OM a the samminisil. (Anhwei, aad ales et
Ddeillo_
lir.RO add that se ;a sal,mt Irish latioloot be
could not eater ism ma smdri mdsg with the sowenneat
with wihrease Is Ms =zeles this mean». The spa&
die ol lighthes, the ha the Home Departasentbed
tailed M eenthee bl. hat was any reams why the
Oaths et he b pespi should new be impended. The
Teem al that day bid downol Owe Leland wee
separated hem this eanatty; sad preetimip, for
the pea ales of this melba were mein es revel= the
Taiga. (A laugh.) Her. members on both ides of the
lease seemed to los unpervared with say really lionsield
messarie ihr Ireland. What did the boa. iambs, IV
Beskinghsenithe peeves to de whoa he some late power
This weimaiVoknot wily answered. but the hew IMF
bac hal prewholl that the bambini should pet be
valliesed la sad that the b thumb Amid use
leashedg eak braihse, be wee prepared to keep her a
agialsi ire. The slight lea. Wrest the member he
Tesseeth had shied that he bed no mann
_pew
h
that Inlaid had boss is dielesitLeLdea ltelipt
Ird.y esgie tern met wait. Now all this
might be mama up is these hw wade--wait until the pm
WM firmin Isehml. (Heer, hear.) He payed beams
M Mini Masai beim& hem palate state.sa (Langb-
sard'srbor.dtrli *t.:117,1141":1" tpo=l".
gpma mast the pear miss the lid.
y wall
anitodalitelit irelalat them he.
Pi&
pupa
MI la older to extermisertellse pesjarCare plea ia
have that ellistia helf amatory,Suitt
la Assails would Weems the biota dim
alt imam ase-harth of IND Wing debt
magi ji the seven el by mile :
3 gft rignsestegs by* theet
X,111!!....1"11 ben.
16.100 .911/7 in /Min

ipseibMieriastbeueffigsaa
is
as refilln pristestant, equal
every reopen on an equal
lioaldimen. (Hesr, from Mr.
Mama He Wit mid (m revered in Hansard), that
reread a thin was no example of a country
=orllll a ()sedition as Leland. He Inv
to the allimilllinil state of the Irish church tad other
Irish insure inn. Mt odd, that when an attempt was made
to him esnatrymen they took the field and Wa-
lled, ewe religion ; and he asked the government to
gin to Inland the same privileges in that respect as
were seined by the people of England and that-
lead ; by removing • dominant church establiement
He 1144 that want of employment was also a great evil,
sad that in that year, 1824, we were sending oat of the
coantry upwards of 30,000,0001. of capital, of which not one
shilling found its way to Ireland. He raid that the tease of
that was want of security to property, which was itself swing
to dissenteat-that dimeatimtbakeg radioed, and naturally
so, by the het that a her Imam& thentrad men wire domi-
nant over the stMese.-basthes them m slam a, and keeping
them in a state of thesiate bosiespt. Re salt, moreover,
that the isms of the union had bees violated up to that
newest. (Hear, hem from Mr. O'Clennell.) That by those
tams. it 111111traisea iliac Inland slim Oil be treated as
Mt at she meter had bemil-et which the . esta-
On jury laws, mai tlrs penile of setting
wises -catholic, and the eesstesi .ratessl to
of eivij and religious right., throated amide proof.
Al this he mated nerly a querteasoifi=til:ll
Mss pioneers remained .tilt had
Mph to complain that jostles had egg been dee
Ciliharm the sums footing as Wand ea
a ibsenr• theme was alth - kept _up
_et an
enemme One althorns primees bad died Meth
ffiatK. hew mild it be ..urinal at that the kith
wow still diescateatod ? He thseothee essionded that
which had boss the:ttane of Twined, deemed to
drench Imatemat. His hem hind seed why, m-
ime views, he sow voted Ow seamisn ? Busses
rawinFopisiout that se lesg ea meanies was anied as in
Inland as a system, there would be me sesmig lir property
and no likelihood of government introdusing those amemins
of relief which he had Ina sines advetateL He supported
this bill in mercy to Ike people of behind, end la messy to
the hos. member far Limerick, and other wicked men who
tried to keep that people in a state of agitatioa. Ireland
was new tranquil, and le believed would be kept so by this
measure, and he called upon the gonthmet to mall them.
selves of that tranquillity, for introdacieg these measures
which ware likely to give emeriti to perms end property in
Ireland, sad to waviest the people that they wire treated
as the =11" a Migoitlllinfie airs of the empire.
(Hear, .)
Kr. J. O'CONNELL mid the ism reed learned mem-
ber for Montrose had testa his views on the
Irish church a quarter of a sectary ago ; has'
why bad he not followed up sad carried oat those
views • above all, why did he now seek to prevent all
diens:ion in Ireland on that or any other =
In reference to the bill before the house, he
his intention to vote against the third reading, and
also to support the emendatent width limited its
operation to three months, believing that mu mown' it
endured was a etingieg Weida to Inked. He should be
glad to bear English members more gesentßy swiss them-
selves en this question ; for he was temineed that, es re-
garded 'lsolated Walt a sort dangerous premien' would be
established far isepowlieg the politisal libertiesof tie people.
The mile Med alibi Moder the goveminentweght teremem-
ber the peasefal pee whisk toss themes dews
_by the sight
hes. baronet the member hr Tessera. as ths iselpWg
ease, as to the way in which Ireland ought to be ;
he might also to reeelleet that he semoed the
and yet, In the emcee of not onea,.„
lakes towards oedemas. that not one menus
kw Wand had bass perm& en had the men
is othse were skean; they had been grievously mistaken.
Foe new minimises
,s7ehra sad, Jingling all their
liberalism. to the winds, a measure of minim far
more galli than any it. During the
111 yeah- belted sat in that brim Cal ireever felt so much
the iron of slavery esioneg into his seal as on Friday last,
whim this question of eareisa was hastily passed through
am of its stages ,• while the bill which amended to Ireland •
petty relief bad led to three of the closest divisions which
hailtaken place in this parliament. Let them prove to the '
maple of Inland that they could and would legislate justly '
hr -that country ; and her representatives would still blew
Mom. netwithatauditig the centuries of misrule which had
hem
Mr. p, said he was still of opinion that ho
ewe bed ism made out for this bill. He would stove that
the bid doseld be read • third time that day six months.
Ti. ameadment being seconded, a division was immedi-
ately called ilmr, and the gallery was cleared.
The numbers were-For the third reading—
Against It 23-14
On the genien that the bill do pass,
Lord NUGENT moved punnet to notice, the substitu-
tion of the words, " Int day of Jan " for the words " first
day of September " in the list clans. He considered it
moustrona that the house should denounce this privation of
the constitution spine the whole Irish people for so long a
period se six months, when, even supposing the measure to
be a necessary era, and eves supposing that at the end of
halt the period now assigned the evil still subsisted,
parliament would, in all probability, be still sitting,
and in a position to act upon the necessity. But,
let not the hones inflict this oppression upon Ireland for *a
hour beyond the abate% necessity of the mac. There had,
no doubt, existed a violent malady in the body politic of the
Irish nation, requiring violent remedies. The violent re-
medies had, in ail conscience, been applied ; the disease had
abated; on what principle oontians the extreme ties!.
sent ?
The knee then divided--
For the Amendment.... 11
Against it
On the question that the bill be read a third Inte-
l& J. O'CONNELL moved that the following words be
added to the title of the bill : " And for suppressing the ax.
pianism of the public opinion in that country."
The amendment was swain& without a division.
The bill was then passed, and Mr. Bernal was ordered to
carry it to the lords.
PARLIAMENTARY OATHS.
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said-Mr. Speaker, I have
rims to being seder the consideration of this hose* the sub-
ject of drench' which are nquired to be taken by member.
of it. In the course of the last session I had the humour of
penning and of carrying • bill for the purpose of
relieving her Majesty's Jewish subjects from the
diabililles under which they now labour. That bill
was rejected and thrown oat in another place,
end it Is sow my intention to bring the subject mire com-
pletely nadir the notice of the house, and to review the oaths
Smears now administered at the table and necessary to b.
Whim. And if I should be to fortunate as to obtain the
toment of the house to go into committee on the subject, I
trust I shall be permitted to bring in, es I did before, the
bill which I have to propose, and to lay the whole scheme
before hon. members. I should state, in the tint place,
that I do not propos' to interfere with, or alter, the pew, nt
form of the oath administered to Roman catholic& The
lona of that oath, after having operated to the
exclusion of the Roman catholic@ for 160 yens, was dell.
besately settled he the year 1420-sew 20 leen ego. The
SOMA Wheals have slam OM peeled sit ia this and the
other hoar of podismost slier taking the each se now
framed, and although there stilly remened sum MIL-akin
with reopen te the
In of ula el the eeth, still the
bones and the 'sentry ',anal remain satisded that the
oath is fairly tears sad honestly ohnomed,, owl throsfors, as
allaresameyossaritg ia of
by
_loe Ism noir
i=mod,
I shall net seek to is
the darislea et the . oa
that part tithe &jest. Bat if I &WU mak belts to
atheism" he asadolmation the edim 'mho which aro taken
by mentlosm at the Whim I dada sea bandy fell ia eitsin-
lag the serest or these to whom 1 sow address imposW, to
man with me ha ephdea that they do not sisommAisto dm
eToiset ere
mwhisink tabalit Wee My ram meavil
aol
the or we latanisd
Mate
, a mesas of iodides, the o=l sod et emboss
of Minhones. Per the mosso of lady opalillod to psalms
- &Moe, it is now Impassive es ummbaos to Mks the
MOP of alloplease to the somealim mad of Mbomou to the
at alastdoseent of the mom. But it it timid be hum' on
ammissties that these aloft amain man that is idle*
mammary as well as asabignoss, and Impedmi undo' re-
draint upon a part of her Majesty's saliposte width are
wholly unjustifiable-if the fact on emminaden pew to be
as I dwieribe it, you nal probably agree with me is torsi-
Awing them to be in so far defective, and that they sequin
resensidention with a view to their shanties. la consi-
dering them oaths I will take them is their nail order, and
arm thaw abandon to the oath of 'Unclean, the lona of
which is nig r " I, A. 8., do ancerely promise aid swear
that I will be faithful sad beer true aliegionos to
low Hdeety Queen Victoria." To that form of oath
I entertain se sort of °Voodoo. Tie next oath is that of
supremacy, and I shall sow ask the house to Hates to Lord
Elder's as to the prigin and purpose of this oath.
In the question relative to teo admission of the
Duke of Norfolk to the office of earl marshal of England,
from which he had been debarred by the oath of , m-
assy, lard llidcm said, "With respect to the wail of
allegiance that is to be Wean by the Duke of Norfolk es esti
timbal, I as a lawyer say that oath contains ell that is sin
tined in the oath of supremacy, sad I say that the eath of
empreensy was added to the oath of sagging* se ea expo
nuke, and as Sir Matthew Hale Morns me le
artier to tenni the iatrieseles of the cub of "
1 Thane" Lord Eldoa, looking to the egides ep lik IlMlhw
Hole mesidered the oath of allatinse to paws .p-Mot
eim "geared la the oath Id oldesmak, sad that
II was only in conasquence of a adosadisslanani atm isch
41 illisplases that no oath of sommi was Wed in order
d' W reentry and the- m,ri thus die oath, et
ce was sadenteed in the true ems la which it win
thoustt to be taken. The hem of the oath of rairrami is
this : 'I, A. 8., do swear that Ido from am be=rii:
dant, and abjure, m and heretical, riot
asomme and plaid's, that prisms ezeusommisate 1
by the pope or say authority alike en of Rome my bo
posed or Manned by their oddest% or by asp sHim Idiflir

that the laterpritation put by
re whin he has written •
at the muse ties I must say that I
kit interpretation. All I can imagine _ pur-
port of the weeds " no foreign prince, person,
prelate, state, or potentate loath or ought to • have
end
ijii= power, superiority, pre-eminence, or dean-
ifty or spiritual within this realm," is that no
seek emlikadtwY pommned within this realm. But when
rs Ram an•liiiMes newt that they understand this oath,
as I am led to Wine they do, to mean that no person has or
ought to have any Mann' power, or authority over their
minds, then, as it is obsess the pope has considerable inflo-
w* over their minds, and that his decrees do affect
the Roman catholic bishops here and in Scotland,
why, in that mum, it cannot be said the pope is without
spiritual and ecclesiastical authority within them realms.
But, sir, when wo arms to consider that part of the oath
taken by Room eathedm which oonespoorls with that por-
tion bliss ho dants, we fled them wont' " And I de
declare that I to not-boilino that the Pope of Rome, at an
ether Swags print, prelate, won. date, or potentate, bath
or ought to have any fiempand sr siva jurisdiction, age-
deny_ , or power, direatly or indirectly, wit three realms.'.
Therefore, while yen saquiro of the protestant that he shall
&dare that the pops link no " epeltual or ecclesiastical"
juriedictioa, yft%ly regain of the Roman catholic a decla-
ration that the pope hail so "civil' or temporal" jurisdio-
tin. (Hendren.) New, I think it seem to be obvious,
if that is ouSeeetesettrity to be gives bathe HOMO. esthetic;
who doss pay spiritual obedience to the pope, and who cur
slam hint as the head of his churehtnat it is quite sulkiest
for may protestaat to make the suite' declaration that the pip
has so deft or tirimponal bristle:lnt la this country. es
mattior dents et present, having ajealonsy with regard
to Rama tonsils, we require them to auks a ornate de-
antis amemeibi Ike power and authority of the Pops,
sad lottiogiejiminey with regard to protestant", we re.
quite Sam Mau • harsher and more stringent declaration
thorn we sant be. the Roman catholic'. (Hear, hear.)
And yeti them weeds whin are, as I say, totally unseen
my, whin pine a gent where it is not required, are thee
mmy weeds whisk have been found by some noble lords .09
ems* drrsldm which they think insurmountable, in the
war Nib* dada, me peen of parliament, and giving ad-
obe rani to the crown up= the grave and solemn affairs
litho soar. _ I say, air, that this would be a reason, even
Nimes &WM be only one persoa who had such a doubt,
aullsient tejcatity.os in removing thit which is obviously an
security. I cone next to the third oath, the
radli Wk of ethic* after acknowledging the Queen
as Mlawful and rightful sovereign of these realms, goes as
"17i de adsmakr ant Ineend declare that I do believe in my
masebesn that net aay__et the ta of the 011ie,persn who peas
tuneed eit le Prime of walesa=he Me of the late
bleasue
IL, ad Mee Its &sem to he sod leek imm
ate 'Wad of ling Parka, by Weave et James DI,
sr et leallend by larame of Joan TEL, re the style and tide
el King of Gemet Bab* mg rennet tills ninimeow to the
mon a this realm er erg ether the dembices theaseale heisagfag.
And I do reseeme, reties, and Odom any allegleme or Mediesse to
wry et them.
Such is the solemn declaration whiolt every asaber makes
on entering this or the other house of parliament. But now,
in considering this part of the subject, let us see how that
oath arose. Whoa the House of Hanover came to this
sentry, and George I. was king of these realms, there wall
a prise* professing to derive his title from King James 11.,
calling himself King Jaw 111., and claiming the crown
of this realm as a right. There was also existing at that
time a party, • very considerable party, who regarded his
claim as superior to that of the king upon the throne ;
and parliament therefore thought it unwary that every
pens who took his seat in parliament should
take the oath of allegiance, and should at the
same time disclaim and abjure the title of the person pre-
I g to be the king of these realms. In the omen of
Tamestime 111., as he called himself, died, and the claim
disendied to his sons. Parliament then, in the year 1768,
siodand that his death rendered necessary the alteration of
the Woo is which the oath of abjuration should be taken,
teed boned of saying that they abjured the title of James
they gave the words at present in use, abjuring the
title of the ftsaWants of the person preinding te be Janus
111. But that was no doubt as rational a proceeding as
maid well be. In the first place there was • pretender
alarming the throne, and there was • great party ready, and
eve, appearing is arms, in the first ar of tU reign of
George I. Parliament then In the first instance
called upon every man as • matter of security to abjure the
title of James 111., and then, when he died, they again
called noon everyperson to abjure the tided his descendants.
But now, sines the year 1807 there hue been no descendants
of the pence calling himself 'elute 111. (Hear.) Cardinal
York, I think, did in that wear, and from that time
there her not bees the least aiewity for that abjuration.
(Hear, hear.) Therefore, by the sigma oath which we
take, alums the title of the descendant" of a person who
has not left way doundants the title of a family which does
sot now exist, we are guilty of something very like a
winery. (Hear, hoar.) Everybody of course knows that
if there is any pretence to a titre, it must be in the descend-
ants of Charles I. and not of James IL • but, in fact, this
title of the Quoin is so perfectly well established, that I
think it is only necessary to declare our adherence to the
settlement of the crown by the act which settles it in the
present family, and that it is not necessary to abjure the
title of any foreign prince. (Cheers) The oath of abjura-
tion ends with these words : " And I do make this recogni-
tion, acknowledgment, abjuration, renunciation, and pro-
mise, heartily, willingly, and truly, upon the true faith of a
Christian." (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, with respect to these
words, I argued last year that they were intended as a
sanction, and that they ought not to be continued to the
exclusion of person of the Jewish religion who had been
elected by the suffrage" of any committer nee. I do not wish
at this time to go ,gain at length into that argument. I
own it appean to me, after all the debates we had lest vision
upon the subject, that all the objections resolved themselves
into this—that the Jewish subjects of her Majesty were of
a differeat opinion in matters of religion and conscience from
the Roman catholic. and protestant" wEe might be members
of this house, and therefore that they ought to be excluded.
Upon this subject I must again maintain that you hod no
right to exclude any subject of this realm duly elected, exempt
on the ground that some of their doctrine or opinions sew
such as to reader them unfit to be members of this house mail
incompetent to perform its duties. (Caters.) For instemn,
with regard to the Roman catholic' it was at one time
alleged—l will not stop now to inquire whether truly or
falsely—that they were rennin' with a divided allegiance—
that they owed allegiance to the pope, which
made their slleglsnce
.to the sovereign of these realm, •
wholly imperfect alanat ; that they never would be a:do-
ffed with paying obscei to a protestant soveridga ova pee
testant government; but that they would be amsteady
attempting to overturn it and to introduce the Roman
catholic religion and supremacy into this hone. I say I
will an enter into that allegation now, but I will giveati
opinion that if it were proved, it would form • good
sufficient reason for excluding Roman catholic' from this
bone. (Hear, hear.) So again with regard to the excla.
aion of protestant disinter", not from this hours, but from
office ; it was alleged that they would use the powers of affirm
for the destruction of the established churn—that there
would be no security for the establishment. and that they
would never onto their endeavours to subvert and destroy
it. I say that that allegation was of considerable weight
when the question ander dissuades was. whether dismiss
,shmthille admitted to of ire ; but as regale the Jews num
ma maws to my that then is anything in their *phasing
whin la licetils to the constitution of thin country, or that
I they wad use any power Which they paean let the pee-
pose of Waring or destroying our conmhution, or still is.
IN alsomaky. (Hear. ken.) Well, sir, it that is so, this
swam th be a ewe of parre unmitigatd penenation—(cheers)
a. poising's similar in nature to the violent one
whisk led to the hag* tad the elk; and it bears this odious
Aston, that hen tis pumas whom you ex:lade you pos.
sem every safety nal inanity from danger, Exclude the
Roman aattelass ; attempt to morrow to do it, and you
' have laudsdlataly five IR aid millions of people a aide Of
WOW sad sotaaperatod discoatent. (Chem.) Exclude the
penman dissenters, sad you bare some three millions of
people le the United Kingdom who are at once ea-
triaged Sam your constitutioa and your laws
exclude no Jews and know perfectly well that
you are safe is that excl
usion, and that you may
enjoy all the triumph and all the pleasure of your permea-
tion, without expoiyounalves to any danger from their
discontent. (Cheers.) I say, therefore, sir, that that az-
duties, after the admission of Remus catholic* =Of pro.
testant dissenters , against whom there were plausible, though
by no mesas sufficient. reasons, is pendia, ly odious and ua
just. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I will now state what it is that I
propose to do with the view of an nding these laws. I have
already stated, with regard to the Roman catholic*, that this
matter levity( bean mo recently tattled, and there being me
sullieleat MKS the din/banes of that settlement, I
so eltsentbm whatever. With regard to the other
itt=li of her Neitety, I propose that there should be a
general oath takes, and. should say that I have taken nearly
all the wails of it from the very able report of the cow
miallea whisk was appointed by Lad Lyndhurst, and the
men et whisk appeared in 1846. Tas fona of oath which
I propose m fds
a. 8., swear that I will be hided and hem time slieglance to
bee Majesty Qom Vitamin ear that I will assinds the semenion
oldie mown es adalidlial by imam heitnielee ad he the Wm-
tics el amorous sad Maw trensing the SOO and lbsethe dike
subbed* ; sad that I tie Ist bine Oat the Pere et Bab er any
other hedge plebes, pie e, perm, testa et prentem Ima. or
sought to hammy ingersal, or ebil *Maim or power,
Milan this nobs ; that I will Is the absa.lber2 own.
the settimat megmer within this realm essitilllskcdby ilia
L .., log I do id& al reespdh" dealuatha sad promise,
aloft, Ulna* ear tray, so hip me Gad.
Viet Is the prelim term of oath. I propose emitter eh.
la the him he she Jew, the welds "Oa dm bus
Vtlititra Christian;" but those words in the ether ado val
still be retained. Now, sir, it might be a question whether
this words "Chi'the true faith of a Olugatiaa;' Asada ke err
Mimi la any of the oaths or tot. I own, with regard.,
ant setartty to be obtained from them, I cans* Wok ell
barrier wWeh did not prove of any effect against the aim&
don of a Bolingbroke, a Gibbon, and • Wdkee, on
looked open as any wry efficient barrier. (Hear, ham)
Bet I ma aware that wiretap would be takes of thin

4 hiifaii my that an attempt was made to admit
sad miheleb as fete this house, sad that midi wield
West Cl Mb ieseeme. I confine the mirk
Ire, te these eleven. I leave the Haven
ea the feedhm they are at proisot. Isphlhet
Veda Cl ham Kqemy shouM hike the oath I
; sad I premise faiths; that when any pew
thiswtepM shall *ppm& the ma oak
__ oath, the weeds "On the true leilit Cl a
Christian" shall be omitted try him. (Hear lase.) By
' --- means,
made sir, I think that the esere of r:S= libertyher
eseepiMe. All pawme= of
sad lobelias% ef IlMee esehembsti have the power
a
the
ed asembae de mod of Midas their
t moo
Cl the by whom they are
returned. The people will that which they
ought to have—the full right any pima wham
it may be their will to cheese otherwise preps* qualified
for • seat in this house. There will be no larger the stairs
upon us of religious exclusioa and intolerance. The saying
of Moir Walnut 111., who had learnt the maxims of reli-
gious liberty in hisnative country, that " communes is God's
provisos," will be carried into effect by the oaths to be taken
by means of this house. We shall no long:r hearth. ',poach
of excluding any persons on accouat of their religious faith
from** privilege of being members of parliament. We
shall eomplete that great edifice which of late years it has
been the boast of statesmen to endeavour to erect We may
be told, indeed, that then is danger in throwing open our
doors so wide. My belief, on the contrary, is that whether
you examine the precepts of Christianity or the maxims of
the constitution, it is your duty, as it is your policy, to throw
open thole doors as widely as possible, to place no ririgious
bar of exclusion against any class of persons professing any
particular religious persuasions. (Cheers.) And in the belief
that what I propose to you will clear away ambigaities,
remove those puts of the oaths which are unnecessary, and
make your whole system defnsible and justifiable is the
eyes of this country and of the world, I row ask this house
to resolve itself into a committee to consider the oaths to be
taken by the members of the two hours of parliament.
(General cheering.)

Mr. GOULBURN said he was not in the least degree in-
sensible to the importance of the gime ion which the noble
lord bed brought under the considertion of the home. The
*iteration of those @Ovate*. by which they had been salls-
teased hitherto to mum the due execution of their duty by
those who were placed in a legislative capacity, could never
be other than a matter of serious consideration, requiring to
be discussed and decided with great deliberation. It was
not his intention to resist the noble lord's going into com-
mittee for the purpose of presetting to the house the measure
which he actually proposed ; but in giving his consent to
this first stage of the measure, he mast enter his protest
against being supposed to adopt the principles upon
which the noble lord recommended it (Hear,
hear.) He did not intend to discuss the oath
of supremacy at that moment; but he unnamed
that when it was Hader consideration in 1829 good reasons
were urged why it should be %stained in its then form; and
though he did not mean to say that the decision then come
to precluded the house from again altering it, yet he meat at
once declare that the principle on which the noble lord pro.
posed to alter it was net one which he was prepired to
sanction. The noble lord said that if any man had a doubt
of the meaning of that oath that would be sufficient to in-
duce him to gra it up. He (Mr. Goulbun) could not think
that doubts of that limited description could be anyjustffica-
lion for the alteration of that oath. (Hear.) The important
part of the noble lord's speech was that which related to the
effect that the proposed alteration would have upon
the admission of Jews to parliament. Ho wished
the noble lord distinctly to understand that, though
not now opposing the introduction of the measure,
be had in no degree departed from the opinions which he
expressed last session es to the inexpediency of the adiansion
which the noble lord proposed. He felt then, as now, that
the admission of Jews would be derogatory to the cha-
racter of parliament, would diminish the salutary authority
which it ought to possess over the people of this country—
would be productive of serious consequences on the religion
of the people at home, and would operate materially against
the extension of religioa abroad. And whilst he 'Meld
retain that opinion, he certainly could not admit that
the individual respectability of the persons whom it
was posed to introduce, formed any just grounds
for breaking through an important principle. (Hear.)
The noble lord told us, indeed, to-night in his speech,
that the exclusion of any class of persons from parliament,
was in Itself • persecution; that the denial of these privileges
was persecution, and that in the case of the Jews we in-
dulged a pleasure of persecution, because we bad no fears
with respect to the powers o(the persons persecuted ; but he
was surprised when the noble lad told us that the exclusion
of any clam, by moonset an oath, was persecution ; that the
noble lord did not read the very oath which he himself pro
posed to be taken by members of this house. The
noble lord retained in the protestant oaths the
words " the true faith of a Christian ;" he did
not confine it to the Christian subjects of her
Majesty, bat he imposed on every otker subject of her
Majesty, be he a Mahometan, or Jew, or any profession not
Christian, the very restriction which be himself said, in the
ease of the Jew, was absolute persecution ; and in proportion
as the number of those who might be candidates far parlia.
mint might be diminished, the noble lord introlueed this
measure of persecution. (Hear, hear.) As be said before,
he did not intend, until the measure we. fully before the
house, to go into the full argument; but he was anxious in
the outset to deny the argument derived from permeation,
and would take the noblelord's own measure as a justifica-
tion for his denial: andwhen the noble lordtalked of religious
liberty being complete, how would he answer the statement
he (Idr.Goulburn) had just made to Mehemet Was religious
liberty to be confined solely to the Jew, or was it to be ex-
tended to every mat, how different soever his opinions
might be from those of the Christian community ? He
confessed he was somewhat surprised that the noble lord
should have thought It necessary upon his view of the
subject, and retain the two oaths which he now proposed
should be taken by the different classes of members of this
house. As far as he was individually concerned he would
rather see the measure of the noble lord, that he might
fully understand the bearing of these oaths, than enter
into a discussion on the present occasion ; and as the only
object he had in view was to enter his protest against
some of the doctrines which the noble lord had
laid down, and to state, in the first instance, his determined
adherence to the principles which he advocated when the
bill for the Removal of Jewish Disabilities was before the
house last session, he would not, by any leagthened obeerva-
lions, interfere with the house going into committee, and
his bringing before the house the terms of the oath and the
regulations which he proposed should be administered,
which, Mtn all, was the essence of the measure. He hoped
the house would carefully consider the effect of the measure
which the noble lord proposed ; that if they agreed with him
that the introduction of the Jews into this legislature would
be derogatory to the assembly end destructive of its
influents*, that they would carefully consider the question
how far the alteration of the oath, and the terms of it might
be such as to diminish the seam of obligation on the part
of these men. With this view he reserved what he had to
say until the measure was brought before the hones, and
until they had an opportunity of considering it.

Mr. PLUMPTRB was betted to think that those boo. ;
members who thought last year that the bill introduced by
the noble lord for the admission of Jews ought not to be
passed, would also now be of opinion that the noble lord
should not proceed with this measure. He was prepared,
in this first stage of the bill, to offer every opposition to the
noble lord, and even to divide the house on this first
question, if it were the pleasure of any hon. members
us go into the lobby with him. He would not conceal from
himself this truth that there would have been no move-
ment whatever in the matter bad not the noble lord been
defeated In another place last year in the bill which he in-
troduced and carded in this house for the admission of
Jews' and, therefore, he said that if this measure were,
IS be believed it to be for the admission of Jews into this
hems, hews" Viol to offer his opposition to it in the
way Let stags e must confess that, to his ears, the pro-
posal of the noble lord with regard to Me admission of
Jews into tide hones was eseeedingly offensive. He meant
nothing plesenal to the noble lord, but he did think
that the way in which he proposed to admit Jews
Into the house, and the terms he had mentioned to the
berme, were exceediagly offensive to Christians. (Hear, hear.)
What did the noble ford propose to do? He pe.iposed that
the Jew should be excused boa making use of those words
which other members ware to make use of, " Upon the true
faith of a Christian," and yet the Jew was to be admitted
into this house because he could repeat these words, "So
help me God." It wiped to be by a trick, by a subterfuge,
that the Jew was to be admitted into this house—that the
Jew was to be accommodated at the expense of him whom
Christians venerated. When a Jew used the weeds, " flo
help me God," he had se respect to him whom Christiana
adored and revered as their Ood and Saviour. lie said that
the proposal was an exceedingly offensive one, from which
he shrank, and which would n receive the sanction of
tiaeat. This was confessedly a religious parliament.
nilOble lord said there would be some risk and danger U
you mimed your Roman catholic subjects, became there
might be seven or eight tailbone of them, admission to this
house. The noble lord said there might be some danger if
you refused to dissenting subjects admisskin ; but he said,
" you might safely admit Jews." He (Mr. Plnmptre),
could not help looking at the word " safely, " not merely
with reference to the safety of the state, but
he said that if they took any step by which
they might forfeit the favour of him who was the Prince cf
the hinds of the earth, "by whom kings reign and princes
decree justice ;" if they took a step to provoke his displea-
sure, they were taking a step which they could take with
anything but safety to the best interests of the country. If
any other member was disposed to view the matter as he
viewed it, and divide the house on the first stage of the bill,
he should be opposed to conceding to the neble lord etas the
int step in the matter.
Mr. C. LAW said that it was not his intention to trouble
the house with a detailed oppositioa on the proposition
of the noble lord ,• he rather rose to state that every opinion
which he had had the honour to express on this subject last
session he retained at the present moment. If them wxsaint/
change or alteration in his sentiments, it was in the s
which they had acquired by the interval; and when he
found the noble lord introduce this measure as pitt of a
measurefor the alteration of oaths generally, TIMMY In
substance and is feet it was only the pretence for bringing
keererd the measure at all' when he [sued that those who
apposed the admiodon of Jewa to seats in the legislature
; were to be breaded by the terms " hateful and odious per-
secutor'," a diseovory made by the noble lord, as the
colleague of Baron Rothschild, in 1848, and an-
seamed to the house sow for the Inv time, and
mime be hand the noble lord in the NSW breath say that
he wesig every religions disability, establish religious
freedom to the and conclude with limiting the as-
sere to ths elides of the Jowl, he did not think the ex-
pression " hated end odious pet...cuticle fell with grace
from the lips o( the noble lard. Be roes io sake his protest

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