The Express.
London, England, 1847-08-28 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, AUGUST 28, 1847.

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thoishre to be regarded with great suspidon.
Mr. Witmer having seconded the motion, a sharp &sous-
don use as to his right to do so, he being a guardian ; but
' the sense of the meeting decided in his favour, on the ground
of his being a rate-payer.
The CLERK then stated, in reply to a rate-payer, that the
expense of the poll taken upon the question of apportioning
a sum of money for baths and wash-houses amounted to
101. 12s. 10d.
Mr. WINCH (ONO of the principal opponents of that measure,
and who before the close of the meeting was elected a director)
said that he at the tims protested against a poll as unprece-
dented in the parish, and that • guarantee had thereupon
been offered that the expense of the poll should be paid by
1 those who demanded it. He had since learned that the ob-
ject was to get a list of the names of those who voted in
order to publish them. That, at least, he understood to be
the object of the gentleman who was at the heed of this bath
and wash-house story.
Mr. TAYLOR (the gentleman alluded to)-1 pledge my
word most solemnly that such is not the use. (A voice
" Not now, because you are defeated.") Ido not acknow-
ledge that I am defeated. (Laughter.) You will find, at
all events, that I shall not be on the next OCrAfriOrl (uproar)
—fir I shall have a requisition signed by 1,000 rate-payers.
(Renewed uproar.) It the rate-payers refused to pay the
expense of the poll, he thought the better plan would be for
him and Mr. Winch to pay it between them. (The proposi-
tion not having been agreed to by Mr. Winch, there was ne
further disclaim= on the subject.)
Mr. Roonas said that, from facts which had come to his
knowledge, he had every reason to think that the present
rate of lea. would suffice for the next quarter. Indeed, con-
sidering the great fall in the price of bread, he had hoped
that them would have been a reduction and not en increase
proposed. It was very bad policy to raise the rate unneces-
sarily, because there were a vast number of pumas in the
two parishes who were ill able to pay the present rate, and
might be compelled to refuse a higher rate altogether. He
therefore moved a rate of 16d.—Mr. Moore having seconded
the amendment,
Mr. WINCH moved as a counter amendment that the rate
be reduced to 1.5 d., and entered into a detail of figures to
justify his doing so. He then proceeded to allude to Mr.
Talbot's remarks upon the printed document (under the im-
pression that he was the party indirectly referred to), but con-
ceiving those remarks to be of • scurrilous nature, he should
not follow them, but merely treat them with the contempt
they deserved. It was insinuated that that document had
originated with him (Mr. Winch) or his party, but he rather
thought Mr. Talbot's party knew more about it than his. In
fact, he believed it to have emanated from that party.
A discussion then arose as to which amendment should be
put first, but was terminated by Mr. Rogers consenting to
withdraw his, aid the chairman (Mr. Goodhugh) put tree
question that a IM, rate be made.
Mr. TALBOT rose, he said, to make a few remarks in reply
to the gentleman who moved that rate. In the first place
he had to observe that if a party thought proper to put forth
a bill and eirealate it amongst the parishioners, charging the
governors and directors with jobbing, he thought he, as a
director, was called upon—
Mr. WINCH (interrupting)—l em no party to that bill,
and before you can make these insinuations, you should iden-
tify me as the author and publisher of it. I believe Mr.
Taylor to be the author of it, and not any of my party. I
know nothing about it. (Cries of " question.")
Mr. Tauter —I have not said, nor do I mean to say, that
you are the author of it.
Mr. WINCH—You alluded to the mover of the amend-
ment in conjunction with it, and we are not such fools as
sot to know what you meant. (Question, question.)
Mr. TALBOT (who attempted to proceed amidst a storm of
voices)—You will save time by hearing me. A bill has been
put forth charging the governors and directors with jobbing.
[A Voice, louder than the rest , " That's nothing to do with
it."] I beg pardon, it has. I mentioned no name. I said
it came from a rate-payer of twenty years' standing. I do
not say, and never have said, that it came from Mr. Winch.
I may suspect whom I please, so long as I do not mention
whom. (A Voice: " You did mention as plainly as you
could ; but now you're ashamed of it.") lam not ashamed I
of anything I do, however you may be. (Renewed uproar.).
Mr. Winch says 1 named the mover of the amendment in
conjunction with this printed bill. I say I did not. (Mr.
Winch: " I say you did.") I deny it. [Mr. Winch :
" Then you say what is false."] I believe, sir, you are pre-
pared to say anything that is false. (Hisses, groans, and 1
other marks of disapprobation.)
A Rare-raven. (a supporter of Mr. Winch).--Gentlemen,
I call upon you not to hear a word Mr. Talbot has to say,
alter that observation. This call was so well responded to,
that Mr. Talbot continued for about ten minutes to make
utterly ineffectual attempts at being heard, even by those
immediately beside him. Even appeals from rate-payers
opposed to his motion, as well as from the chairman himself,
proving fruitless, and the uproar becoming unbearable, it
was at length put an end to by
Mr. PURDY, who said he had been deputed by the medical
attendant to announce that the state of one of the patients,
who was dangerously ill in the workhouse, would be ren-
dered still more so if this noise were continued. He re-
gretted extremely to see this question of baths and wash-
houses taken up in so rancorous a feeling. If it could be
carried, well sod good ; if not, it should be dropped alto-
gether.
Mr. TALBOT then said that his only object in referring
to this document at all, was to vindicate the directors from
, the charge of jobbing, by showing that such a thing was
impossible on their part. As for the expense attending the
late poll, it must necessarily be borne by the pariah. The
act of parliament gave power to a certain number of
parishioners to sign a requisition calling on the governor and
directors to bold a meeting, and they were bound to obey
that call. Whether they had done so willingly or not in
this ease be did not know, for he was not present. For him-
self, he would say that he was not convinced that the project
could be carried out ; at the same time that he believed, if it
could, it would be unquestionably attended with benefit.
The directors being bound to call the meeting, any one
parishioner might demand a poll, and the expense must be
borne by the parish. Having again pressed upon the meet-
ing the necessity of an 18d. rate,
The question was pat from the chair, when nearly every
hand in the room (some of them notover-clean) was held up
in favour of the amendment, or 15d. rate, which was accord-
ingly signed for: Messrs. Winch and Brent were elected
directors, and the meeting (consisting of about 100 persons)
separated.