The Express.
London, England, 1848-05-17 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LOItDS.—TUESDAY, MAY 16.
The LORD CRANCIILLOI took hie seat at 5 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINFAS.
SECOND READElo.—MaivielTs Restitution BBL
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
SECOND READINGS.—Ericted Destitute Poor (Ire Laid; ;
houses (heists!)l'.
COMMONS' AMENDMENTS CONSIDERED.—RessovaI of Aliens
BBL

PAPER PRESENTED.—Issan Anna—By the Martinis of L.tNS.
DOWSE, return of the number or semi aurtendered in Ireland
under the Outrage Suppression Aet.
PENSIONS TO SPANISH REFUGEES.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY moved " that there
he laid before this house a return of all the Spanish refugees
who have been pensioners of the British government 6ille•
Iles death of Ferdinand VII. in 1833, when all could lilies
returned; specifying whether, subsequently to that period,
nay fresh names have been added, and who are the present
reelpients, with the amount allowed to each." The noble
se:rquis proceeded to say that there was a strong feeling in
this Ountry &grand the interference of the Foreign Secretary
in the affairs of other countries. Since the letter of Mr.
Bulwer to the Spanish minister there had been an insurree.
Don at Madrid ; and who could say that his interference had
not in some weature tended to produce it ? He had advised
the Queen-Mother as to the affairs of Spain. Why, what
should we say if Spaniards were to tender advice to the
Queen Dowager on the affairs of this country? With more
immediate reference to his notice, he would say that when
we saw the injustice done to English bondholders, why
should we give such large pensions to Spanish refugees ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would gladly extract out
of the miscellaneous matter of the noble marquis anything
which would bear the appearance of a question if he could.
If the noble marquis had asked him why there had been an
increase in the number of pensioners, or had put any other
tangible question, he might have been able to answer it. He
would, however, say that there had been no increase as to
the number of the recipients, or the amounts paid. The pen- ..
lions were not granted by the Foreign • office, but had been en-
tirely transferred to the Hoes. Guards, where they were, no
doubt, correctly and impartially administered. In the first in-
stance the amount of pensions was about 10,0001., hut that
was
great
many years ago. About the year 1529 it bad in-
to 18,0401. ; and since that period, instead of there
having been that extraordinary increase which had awa-
kened the eon, titutional jealousy and suspicion of the noble
marquis, there had been a decrease to 1,7771. (Hear, hear.)
The number of recipients at one time had been about 300,
bet they had now decreased to 56. (Hear, hear.) With
reference to recent transactions in Spain, he had nothing to
add to what he had said on a former occasion. He then said.
*ether Majesty's government did not intend to take any
farther steps on the subject. There bad been no variation
In the relations between England and Spain, and he had
no hesitation In telling the noble marquis that her Majesty's
government were not prepared to concur in the language of
the noble marquis's motion, and cast reflections en Mr. Bul-
wer for indiscretion. If her Majesty's government were on
all occasions to indulge in "reflections on indiscretion,"
there was no saying bow far they might extend, perhaps to
the eskers of questems as well as to other matters. (Much
laughter.) Ile had no objection to give the noble marquis
all the information he wanted, but he hoped he would see
the impossibility of insisting upon the names of the parties
who were in the receipt of pensions being published.
(Hear, hear.)
The Duke of WELLINGTON said the amount, small as
it had now become, was given in charity towards indivi-
duals who had performed services to the British army in the
time of need ; and the pensions were not given on any poli-
tical or other ground whatever. (Hear, hear.)
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY consented to the
omission of the names of the pensioners ; and the motion, so
amended, was agreed to. The noble marquis stated that he
would withdraw the following notice which he had placed
upon the paper, viz.:—" To inquire whether her Majesty's
government are united in a cordial approbation of Mr. Bid-
wer's recent conduct, without any reflections of indiscretion
on his part in the orders he received."
REMOVAL OF ALIENS BILL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the order of the
day for the consideration of the Commons' amendments to
the Removal of Aliens Bill.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH expressed his surprise
that the noble marquis had not explained what the amend-
ments were, and complained generally of the bill and the
amendments.
Lord CAMPBELL defended the Commons' amendments,
and said the bill would not inflict any hardship on well-
dispased foreigners.
Lord STANLEY complained of the power of bail which
had been inserted in the bill by the Commons, and disap-
proved of other amendments which they had made in the 4th
and sth clauses, which contradicted each other, and mate.
daily weakened the eff. et of the bill.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM hoped that it would never be found
necessary to carry the provisions of the bill in's active opera-
tion, as it would bare a very dangeraus effect upon the
friendly Malone of England with foreign nations, which it
was the professed wish of this country to maintain unim-
paired.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that if the noble
earl had bestowed a few hours' attendance upon the house
during the time the bill was in progress, he would have
better understood its purport than he seemed to do; but so
indifferent was the noble earl to the measure, that he never
once was present whilst it was under consideration.
Lord REDESDALE objected to the powers granted to
two justices of the peace—powers greater than were to be
possessed under the bill by the Secretary of State.
.or •
judge. Those powers were conferred by the additional
clauses, and he agreed with the noble earl in objecting to
them.
Earl GREY defended the fifth clause, which was essential
to prevent an alien from being imprisoned for an indefinite
period upon suspicion of being engaged in treasonable
practices.
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH petaisted in his objection
to the clause added to the bill.
The amendments were then agreed to.
POORHOUSES (IRELAND) BILL.
The Earl of DEVON moved the second reading of this bill.
Lord MONTEAGLE gave notice that in the committee
he should propose an amendment restraining the power of
giving agricultural employment under the bill to young
persons who might be in the workhouses.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE entirely concurred in the
view taken by his noble friend. The government would be
prepared to introduce a provioioa similar to that announced
by hire. The object of the bill was to improve agricultural
science, and to afford the young persons in workhouses op-
pertunities for learning.
The Earl of DEVON concurred in the view taken by the
noble lords on both aides of the house.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL was not quite sure
whether it would not be desirable to give more land to the
rorkhouns than to restrict its quantity.
The bill was then read a second time.
Their lordships adjourned at half-past 7.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-TUESDAY, MAT 16.

The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

REPORTS CONROY:RED.—Aberdare Railway Act Amendment
(lease of Line and works to the Taff Vale Railway Lampunyi ; Chester
Cemetery ; Leeds and Mina' Railway (alteration of level. of Leeds
and Hartlepool Railway to Regicidal°, Preston, and Stockton, Stu) ;
Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire Railway (Ashton Canal pur-
chase) ; Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincolnshire fiddieray (Sheffield
Canal purehsee) ; York, Newcastle, and Berwick Railway (late York
sod Newcastle Railway main line Improvement, Mu); Bill.
THIRD RRADlNGS.—itest and Wed Lone Harbour and Bridge;
Leicester Navigation (side of lands on Forest line) ; Bills