The Express.
London, England, 1848-08-30 00:00:00

I'LRIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TunDAT, AUG. 29.
The LOYD C iNcittLog tookUS INESS his seat at 6 o'clock.
PUBLIC B.
SECOND READINGS.—Poor law Auditors Proceedings Restric-
tion ; Ontroverted Elections; Mulder of Landed Property (Ire.
land); Fever (Ireland); Nuisances and Contagious Diseases; Dublin
ponce; Common` Incloraire Act Amendment ; Bibs.
COMAIIITE.Sbouritur Parr (Ireland); Boger Dulles; Sheep
and arse Importation Prohibition; Sheep and I.Xttis coataeaut
Dimmers Peereatb. ; Bills.
1111 RD RE WING°. —Moron Coromissienersof Sewers; Re.
prOditocire Loan Mond Institution (Ireland); Pent Law Auditors Pro-
eeedinge Restriction; Bills.
NUISANCES AND CONTAGIOUS DISEASES BILL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved the second read-
ing of this bill, and bristly explained its objects, which were
twora:rl,—relating fl-'t to the removal of nuissucts ; and
escondly to the prevention of the spread of any contagious
disorder. Power was given to any two inhabitant house•
holders, to go before certain puhlic ."oilies named in the bill,
snd make complaint of the existrrnce of nuisances. The bill
also gave b•fards of health and other public bodies the power
to adot an measures which might upon en emerncy ap-
pear nepcessary, y,in the event of any cote diseasege making
ate apvarance.
The bill weft then read a second time.
METROPOLITAN TURNPIKES BILL.
A cold:seine was uppointed to consider the alterations in
this bill.
After a sort absence the members o the conference re-
turned and reported the result to the houfse.
The house then, at a quarter to seven, adjourned till a
quarter past four to-marrow (this day).

HOUSE OF Ol)MMONS.—Tuesniy, Avo. 29.
The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock.
PUBLIC ISUSIN See%
PETITIONS.—Ity Mr. MILNE:4, from a place not heard, for the
establisament of county asylums for juvenile 4,lfolders.—sir 11. W IL-
Aeso-
LOUOIIIII, from IL Martin, ,ecretery to the laffichm Provident
elation, against the S.lviaigs who Bill.— Col. TIIUMPSOS, from John
Snook, tiltrotor of a life-bcnt, complaining of the neglect of his Mien-
don by the Sir IL NORBEYS, from the grand jury of
Moscumfoon, against the Irish Poor Law.
itEnuimi.—Poor Law Auditors Proceedings Itrutlietion

COMMlTTEEB.—Cormadidated Foal;Excliequer BBL; West India
°Monies and Mau9Mitts; Savings Banks; Bills.
REPORTS.—net-horsca Licences, he.; Lock-up Mouses ; Ililts.ws.
THIRD REA DINDS. —Bay Mileary ; Postage on Ne
pipers (Channel Islands); Diplomatic Bei:dime. with the Court
of Rome; Taxing Marten, Court of Chancery (Ireland); BMA.
REEL! rCNS OltDhltED. - Oa the motion of Mr. WODEIIOBSE
to reprint the mimeos of evidence taken before the committee of the
Privy Geincil fur eiin at the Beard of Trude, on tLe 10th and 28th ,
days of April, 1828, and ordered to be printed on the 12:11 day of
February, 1830. That there be added, be way of appendix to the
papers above mentioned, theme swers given by the
of thn e pent
Bank go-
ivernor of the Bank, by Mr. on, the govern, e
1814 ; and abo, by Mr. llorsley Palmer, a Bank director, to the que.-
tions referred win the I Ith re ;ion of the repent of the committee
of the House of Lords on commercial distress,' 1317 (Section
or Limitation of the Amount of Silver by the Act of 1844.")
The report of the Lords Commlaionera of his Majesty's Treasury, on
the awe et the gold and vile, r coin, from Sir boar Newton, Master or
the Mint, dates! Mint Office, the 21 t day of September, 1711 ; Copy ol
any minute or entry that may appear on the oruer hooka of the 'revi-
sory, between the date of the reeolution of the Bowe of Commons of
the lob day of October, 1528, and the final paring of the Itecoinage
Act in 1609, mixing athe rate at which the collectors and receivers
of taxes were authorised to take money at a different value from the
standard; Copy of the order of the Stb day of February, 1700-1, re-
specting the rabie at which the bunk d'Or and Spanish pistol.. were
to be received as part of tho current coin of the realm.— Mr.
). WILLIAMS, return of the number of seizures of silks, lace,
and shawls, made at the Customhouse of London, from the
Ist day of January, 1819, to the 25th day of August, 1818, on the
plea of undervaluation of entry; Mating the kind of goads seized, the
amount of entry, valuation of such seizures, the amount paid by the
Custom-house to the importers of the goods,the amsunt r
of
proceeds of the pales of such goads ; suiting the numbe
of lota into which they were divided for rale, the several
days oa which they were put up fur role, and whether mld or
bought in or postponed, is each care, and the expenses incurred on
such sale., arid a balance of account, to show the benefit or loss to
the CUStoin-bouee dep.unent, and tins amount paid m each OW to
the seizing officer.—Mr. 111:11E, conics of all correspondence on the
proposed establishment, extension. or improvement of Small Debt
Courts, Within the towns of Cileutta, Madras, and Bombay, which .
has taken place between the judges of her Maj“ty'a courts of )udica-
ture in India, the Law commiasiouers for India, the Governor-timeral
Indus, , the governors of Bengal, Madras, and Bombay, and the
booourable the court of directors of the Fist Isdu Cunipany, during

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TAXLNC. MAS
(IRETER' COURT OF CHANCERY
LAND) BILL.
Title bin having been read a third
Mr. HENLEY moved an amendment, limiting the ap-
poinunent of the tune additional taxing masters to three

years.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the additional mas•ers were
absolutely nee, sary to prevent the arrears iti the taxing
masters' office. He coulu nut say whether such arrears might
be avoided by iewer than three taxing masters at a tu ure
period, but certainly less than that number would not be
able to ktep pace with the busnese for a considerable time

to come. - -
The amendment was put and negatived, and the bill then

passed
DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WITH THE COURT
OF ROME BILL.
On the motion for reading th • bill a third time,
Mr. NAPIER said he telt it to be his duty to meet this
stage of the bill with his m. at decided opposition. It was
unnecessary, as far as commercial relations with Italy were
concerted. Its object was to facilitate a policy which he
feared would undermine the working and protestant character
of the constitution, and which conflicted with those re-
ligious and constitutional principles, which were established
at the reformation. He looked Oa the measure as danger-
ous, for though it did not go directly to increase the power
of the pope, indirectly it would tend to facilitate the
papal power in this country. Intercourse with the
po as a temporal power, was not required ; in-
tercoupe, rse with the pope, as a spiritual power, was unlawful.
He beamed to move as an amendment that " the bill be read
a third time upon this day three menthe."
Mr. ANSTEY seconded the amendment.
Mr. M. MILNES said that the bon. and learned member
opposite had founded his objevion to the bill principally on
the ground of its introducing and sanctioning the introduc-
tion into the recognised forms of the conetitutiou of a Roman
catholic hieratchy. The state of the law on the subject
of the crown holding intercourse with the Pope was, to say
the least, doubtful, and the government could not therefore
be censured for taking steps to prevent any possible devia-
tion from the law on the part et the sovereign by bringing
in the present measure. As the case now stood the papal
territory was ignored by the law, and surely in times
lice these no minister could be blamed who got rid of this
absurd anomaly. lie should give his cordial supped to the
of third reading of the bill.
Mr. Serjeant TALFOURD said that he Toted for the bill
on the simple ground that it had be en deemed necessary by
very high legal and other authorities ter the purpose of re-
moving some doubts which were said to exist on the subject
of the legality of the crown holding direct intercourse with
the see of Rome. It was not that there did exist Any legal
impediments to such intercourse; but it was lest there
should be deemed to be such, that the noble lord at the head
of the government had thought proper to introduce the pre-
sent bill.
li ENLEY would oppose the bill.
Mr. SHEIL.—I shell be mostsuccinet and brief, and shall
limit my statement to • few fact.. The polemical part of
the case I shall entirely avoid, and confine myself to the
diplomatic. By the 103rd article of the congress of Vienna,
the rights of the hely see are defended and secured. Eng-
land was a party to that treaty • the name of Clancarty. or-
thodox to this hour, was attached to that treaty. It was laid
before the house, no opposition was offered, nor was there
any remonstrance against an arrangement by which we be-
came a consenting party to the settlement of the see of Rome.
Is it not preposterous, then, that England, which secured the
Pope in the enjoyment of a portion of his ecclesiastical do-
minions, should he debarred from holding diplomatic
intercourse with that power which she virtually protects?
(Hear.) I pees from 1815 to 1832. On the accession of Gre-
gory XVI., reforms were demanded by the Roman people ;
they were refused, and the natural consequences ensued.
A revolution tank pine in the legations: Austria seized
Bologna, France Ancona, and Europe was on the verge of
a general war. The four great European powers, Russia,
Prussia, France, and Austria, concurred in making a most
remarkable application to England, the object of which was
to induce England to send an ambassador to Rome in order
that by the concurrence of tee five pewees a final arrange-
ment of the Papal States might be come to. d no
power to send an enbaesselor ; but an envoy, Sir We ha
Hamilton
Seymour, proceeded from Paris to Rome. I Dave here the
correspondence which took place between bins and Prince
Mettensich. By that correspondence it appears that con-
ferences were held for fourteen months with a view to the
arrangement of the affairs of the Papal States. These con-
ferences terminated in failure • but it is remarkable that Sir
H. Seymour, in a despatch—dictated, I presume, by my
noble friend near me—foretold all which has since happened,
and foresaw that from Rome the future disturbance of
Italy hail burst forth. If in 1832 there was the strongest
reason to send an ambassador to Rome, how much more so
in 1848, when the Pope is culling fur intercourse, aid at a
moment when Italy is giving birth to the most portentous
events? (Hear, hear.) Is it not preposterous, at such a
time, that we should not have a mini ter accredited to the
court of Rome, and thus at once put an cad to that surrepti-
tious intercourse which is at the same time a practical Luse-
hood and a moral fraud ? (Loud cheers.)
Mr. URQUHART feared that there was more in this bill
than appeared upon the surface, and that its covert
object was to govern the people of Ireland through the
medium of the court of Rome. There was nothing in the
present state of the I ter to prevent any necessary intercourse
with the Pope, and therefore the present measure was as un-
necessary as it was impolitic. He should give it his decided
opposition.
eititYNOLDS did not quite approve of the bill in its
present shape, and whaled that the clause providing for the
selection of a lay ambassador by the Pope was omitted,
although he thought that a cardinal might be better em-
ployed than in acting the courtier in this country.
Mr. NEWDEGATE took that last opportui ity of warn-
lag the protestant people of England of the consequences of
the intended infraction of their protestant constitution. He
would, however, advise his hon. friend not to divide any
more against the bill, but to rest contented with the eloquent
protest of the hon. audit timed member for Dublin University.
Mr. F. SCOTT objected to the bill, as acknowledging a
religious authority on the part of the Pope in these king-
doms, and hoped a division against it would be taken.
Mr. J. O'CONNELL also opposed the bill, as a measure
brought forward at a time when, from the political position
of the Pope, it was thought some advantage might be taken.
He denied that the Irish Roman catholic' were in favour of
the measure.
The house divided—For the third reading BB
Against it 25-63
The bill was then read a third time and passed.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.
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