The Express.
London, England, 1853-06-10 00:00:00

COAL MARKET.-THIS DAY.

Walls End Haswell. 16s. ; Walls End Hetton, 163.
Walls End Tees, 161.—Ships at market, 68.

CST NVICTRIC TELIIO3APHI
LIVERPOOL, FIILDIT, 10 K.X.
Wind S.W., moderate, and fine.
Arrived.—Matilda, from Barbodos.
Off the port.—Bella Portena, brig.
QUEENSTOWN, JrNE 8.
Wind S.W., fresh breeze.
Arrived.—Constellation, from Trinidad; Trident,
from Akyab; Black Cat, from St. Michael's, for
Liverpool.

DEAL, FRIDAY, 9 A.M.

Wind S. E., light and variable.
Passed.—Singapore, from London to Sydney;
Cornelius de Witte, from London to Melbourne.
Sailed.—Oreste, for Trieste.

MIDLAND GREAT WESTERN (IRELAND) RAILWAY.
—A special general meeting of the shareholders of this
company was held at their board-room, in Dublin, on Wed-
nesday, for the purpose of determining whether the com-
pany should adopt the power of accepting a lease of the
tolls, &c., payable on the Grand Canal. Mr. Ernie took the
chair, and the following resolution was unanimously
adopted .—" That this company do adopt the power of
accepting a lease of the tolls and duties payable on the
Grand Canal and its branches to the proprietors thereof,
for a period not exceeding 21 years from the commencement
of such lease, pursuant to the statute in that behalf pro-
vided—viz., the act passed in the session of parliament held
in the Sth and 9th years of the reign of her present Majesty,
chap. 22, entitled 'An act to enable canal companies to
become carriers of goods on their canals.'"
DL NDRI:3I LEAD MlNES.—These mines, which
are on the estate of the Marquis of Downahire, and have
been working for some time past, are, we understand, at
present yielding a good supply of ore, and exhibit the
strongest evidence of being very profit Ade. We are in-
formed that during the past week there has been a consi-
derable increase in the quantity of ore turned out, and that
there is a probability of a large per centage of silver. we
are alio informed that a new mine hea been opened at
a distance from those already in operation, from.,,hic,h or•
of a very superior quality has been obtained.
corder.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—TIMRSDAT, JOSE 9.
The Loan CgaNcru.on...ook h.. sett at 6 o'clock.
ARRESTMENT OF WAGES IN SCOTLAND.
Lord If Ito OIdAM brought in • but to repeal a provlsioll
in an act passed in 1837, by which the wages of tirtitimrs
and others might be stopped for the payment of debut of
whatever a aaaaa , when contracted in the beer or spirit shop,
or elsewhere. It was a great evil, and induced persona to
Sire credit too readily to poor men for articles they did not
want.
The. LORD CHANCELLOR thought the armament 1f
wage. m..it ohj.ction•ible, and approved of the bill ; but
theught it d. suable that some time should elapse before it
was read a second time.
Lord PANSIURE believed that the present system led to
• great consumption of .:.irit. in large towns such as Wise
pow. The keepers of public houses ware willing to trust
workmen in the receipt of good wages without reference to
their circumstances or families ; and at the end of the week
,ofttn tu.ik the whole of their earnings.
o The bill was then read a first time.
COUNTY COURTS.
Lord BROUGHAM moved far returns of the number of
ease. tried iii county courts, the awns recovered, and the
fees paid, during the last 6 years.
Ordered.
BURIAL GROUNDS BILL.
This bill was reported with amendments.
HACKNEY CARRIAGES (METROPOLIS) BILL.
Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY, in moving the second
reading of this bill, pointed out the causes of complaint with
reference to the hackney carriages of the metropolis, and
explained the remedies proposed to be applied by the bill,
the nature of which are already known to the public, haying
been fully detailed in the Iluuse at Commons.
Earl ALDEORAVE signified his intention to move
same amendments in CUOMittee.
The bill was then read • second time.
INCOME TAX BILL.
On the motion of the Dike of NeViCASILI this bill was
read a tire: time.
CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
DRUMMOND'S (DUKE OF MELTORT'S) RESTI-
TUTION BILL.
This bill went through c inimittee, and was reported.
Their lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OP COMMONS.—T9CRSDA7, Juxe 9.
The &mums tub the chair shortly before four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
THIRD R[ADlSUS.—Rucheiter Bridge; South Eastern
Railway (Canterbury and Whitetable, Bse.); South Eastern
Railway (North Kent Railway to the Thames, &e.); South
Easters Railway (Btrood to Maidstnne) ; Witham Drain-
age Second District; East Loudon Waterworks; WitoWs-
dun and Croydon Railway ; Bids.
CLARE ELECTION.
Mr. MILES brought up the report of the committee ap-
pointed to try the petition against the return of the sitting
members for the county Clare, which stated that Sir John
Forster Fitzgerald and Cornelius O'Brien, Esq., were not
duly elected to serve as knights of the shire for the county
of ('laze, and that the hist election was void; the committee
hail further agreed to • resolution that a system of intimi-
dation was organised at the last election, which rushee, in a
riot at Si.. mile-bridge, deterring voters from the exercise:of
the franchise; that a mob, professing to he the supporters of
the peutionen created a riot at Kilns's. but it was not proved
that any elector was thereby prevented from exercising his
franchise ; that at the riot at Six-mile-bridge the Rev. J.
Burke, a Roman catholic priest, took part in the riot, and
excited the people ; and that the ltev. Michael Chine ano-
ther Roman catholic priest, also excited the people, but It
did not appear that generally any undue interference had
been used by the Roman catholic priests ; that Sir John
Fitx4ereld and Mr. O'Brien did not encourage, and were
in no way cognisaut of the riotous proceedings which took
place.
SLIGO ELECTION.
Mr. F. FRENCH gave notice that he should to-morrow
move that the evidence taken before the Sligo election com-
mittee be printed.
DEFICIENCY OF SILVER COIN.
Mr. OLIVEIRA. begged to ask the Secretary to the
Treasure what means are being taken to supply the deficii
OW, of the silver currency, comehtined of by the bankers.
Mr. WILSON said the great &mend for gold coin had
hitherto r eeeeeee it impossible for the Mint to coin silver,
but u some mitigation of the deficiency, a large quantity of
half sovereigns had been issued. The demand for gold coin
had somewhat abated, and in the last fortnight arrange.
ments had been made for coining a quantity of silver, and
the bank had in its possession about 100,0001. in silver coin.
Mr. I'ELLATT asked whether any steps had been taken
to remove Item circulation light gold coins.
Mr. WILSON was not aware that there were any parti-
cular complaints of the prevalence of light coin ; and he
thought the public ought to know that the representations
which had been made in that house as to the prevalence of
light coin had no foundation. Ile was told by the Bank
that there was no more light coin in circulation than usual,
and that whatever light coin came into the Dank was not
re issued.
TUE CAMP AT CHODHAM.—THE POLICE.
Mr. DRUMMOND begged to put • question to the
Home Secretary. Some alarm was felt in his county with
regard to the number of persons who would be attracted to
the camp at Chobham, and be wished to know whether any
steps had been taken to defend people from outrage and
prevent breaking of the peace by increasing the number of
police. (" Hear." and laughter.)
Lord PALMERSTON said it was very flattering and
honourable to the constitutional feeling of the county that
an application had been made for twenty additional coasts,
bles to keep 9,000 troops in order. (" Hear," and a laugh.)
With regard to move policemen being provided, it was
more a vitalism for the Chancellor of the Exchequer than
ter him ; but as far se he was concerned he would take steps
kg the preservation of the peace.
DURHAM ELECTION.
Mr. BRAIISTON appeared at the bar of the house, and
reported that the committee upon the Durham election had
resolved :—" That Lord Adolphus Vane was not duly
elected to serve for the city of Durham at the last electl^n,
and that his last election (or the said city was void." The
committee had also come to a resolution, " that Lord A.
Vine, by his agents, was guilty of bribery at the last
elute)* ; that J. A. Atkinson was bribed with a sum of
If,. bat it was not proud to the satisfaction of the com-
&Are that the bribe was given with the knowledge of the
sitting member."
NEWSPAPER STAMPS.
Mr. M. GIBSON wished to remind the Secretary to the
Treasury that certain correurnidence between different
persona sag the Micas of the Wand lemma Department
relative to the stamps upon newspapers which had been
ordered to be rodneed by the house had not yet made its
appearance. Now that the government were about to le-
gislate upon the !subject, it was desirable that the correspon-
dence should be in the hands of has. members.
Mr. WILSON would make inquiries and give directions
its the proper quarter.
IiOVERNMENE OP INDIA DILL—ADJOURNED
DEBATE.

Upts tie order of the day for remain lie stained do-
llies es this bill,
Mr. SLACKETT said that it had bees Mid that the
bee. wore sets in had sited est disbuds of the in-
itialise Is be spies the pieme enemies egaiset
the'llet Isis . Its issM iseelbes him that
pis bleteilt,amel Is lie bee piss ogles ime.
ma et is ishistades midst the bowls puma ia refer.
Ines lie We saint es wish ft was sow sliest Is legislate.
The wile lord the iambi for Lowden bad upon a
former saieles Maid est if legbiedsa wen
upon this melee great seriatim .at aim BM
Bla:kett) meld set woe hew the mini ei Seemlimemee
bill for two ee three yeses would lead to way mess spits-
ton than the present maims, wish 'sight he altered by
parliament in the ray asst essies. After making
some complaints in Illialiedign with the revenue, Mr.
Blacken said that his oasis objection to this bill
was that by it the direction of our Indian em-
pire was vested in the hands of a private corporation,
which had no more necessary conneetioa with the
affairs of India than hid the Great Western Rail-
way Company. It was alleged at the time of passing
the last charter act that the dividends were to
be made a first charge on the territorial revenues of India,
and that this would give to the directors en interest in the
good government of that country. Ile thought this was
scarcely worth notice. They knew there was a guarantee
fund which, by this time, amounted to four or five millions
to fell back upon, and they also knew that in 1874 parlia-
!sent was bound to redeem the stock at the rate of 200 per
cent. Therefore this did not form any ground for the
Court of Directors having an interest in India beyond that
which philanthropic individuals must have in the welfare
of their fellow creatures. The right hon. baronet said the
government of ladle was an anomaly. He (Mr. Blacken)
did not think our relations with our Indian empire were so
unprecedented a, to be removed from the ordinary rules of
political experience. I. ordinary cases the declaration of
anomaly was only a confession of cowardice and incompe-
tence. The example of Rome, of Lacedemon, of Spain, of
Portugal, showed that other nations bad not quailed be-
fore the responsibility which seemed now to frighten eel
Poe his part be confessed that if there was an anomaly, it I
was not in India but in ourselves, in our determination to
govern 160 millions of our fellow subjects by a handful of
merchants, to administer a great empire by the machinery
of a joint stock company. But
t..h e greatest anomaly of all
was that the absolute government of all these millions wee
Committed to a gentleman who could talk for five hours on
•therne calculated, above all others, to swell the heart and
to tacit.. the Imagination, who could tell them, in spite of
all the evidence, that things were going on as well as they
could possibly wish. lie could not help thinking that at
bottom the right hon. baronet's olinion was the same as his
own, for though be praised the Court of Directors, that
body would no doubt have preferred a little solid pudding
to all that praise. He told them that the present
vernment of the Court of Directors worked well, and yet
proposed to introduce into it six government nominees;
professed his high opinion of the directors, and yet he
invited half of them to suppress and eliminate themselves,
11 seemed to him that the right hon. hart. was " willing to
wound, sad yet afraid to Mike," and he could not conceive e
measure more ingeniously calculated than this was to under-
seise the foundations of the present mode of government.
After alluding to complaints connected with the adminis-
tration of justice, which he did not think had been
answered by Sir J. W. Hogg, he (Mr. !Hackett)
putinelsrly wished to esprit upon the house the

mode in which the company had dealt with their
patronsge, because that happessed tae be the only thing ever ,
which they had been uilowsel to exercise an absolute
and unlimited discretion ; end experience had shown that
they had exercised it in the way best calculated
to promote the interests of their own families aed con-
unions, and not in the manner best calculated to econo- !
raise the resources of this country, or to strengthen and
improve the social condition of the natives of lodic (Loud
cheers.) Surely, then, it would not be enough merely to
withdraw from them some portion of the p.ttronagc which
they had shown themseln a to have so grossly misapplied.
Surely it was intolerable to think that the administration
of Indian affairs should be left in the hands of men who
had shown themselves incapable of distributing • few
writenhips without allowing themselves to be swayed by
such melancholy consilerations. (Cheers.) Ile should
oppose the bill because it appeared to combine in • wonder-
ful manner the opposite evils both of precipitancy and
delay ; because it proposed to retain the system of doable
government, which, while it seemed to offer a check,
only neutralised responsibility ; and because, above
all, It left a share of the management of In-
dian affairs in the hands of • company which
he was convinced would retard the progress of the
Indian race, instead of twisting in its elevation into a com-
munity of which England mil Englishmen could have any
reason to be proud. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. T. BARING could not pretend to approach this
subjeet as one calculated, in the words of the hon. gentle-
man who had just sat down, "to swell the soul and to fire
the imagination ;" but having had the honour to occupy the
situation of chairman to the committee on Indian affairs, he
would admit that the last petition they had received was in
favour of delay. At the sametime he did not think that that
delay was rendered at all necessary.because that committee
had not reported. On the contrary, if delay there must be, it
mug' be justified on far different grounds. (Hear, hear.)
For his own part, he wished to see the bill introduced, for
although he had doubts as to the policy of some of its pro-
visions, thou doubts could be far better discussed at another
stage. (Ilear,heer.) At all events the notion that because the
committee was atilt sitting parliament ought to postpone
its decision did not seem to him to be justified by the cir-
cumstances of the case. He certainly did think it
would have been desirable that that committee should have
been appointed at an earlier period—that it should in fact
have been appointed a year earlier—(cheers)— but still as
the bill was one that applied only to a limited number of 1
the subjects which had engaged their attention, there was
no reason why they should not at once legislate to that
extent, and why the committee should not continue to
pursue their inquiries into matters connected with the ad-
ministrative duties in India. (Hear, hear.) It did there-
fore appear to him that delay was quite unnecessary. Nor
did he base his opinion upon any letter of Lord Dalhou-
sie's. On the contrary, it appeared to him perfectly self-
evident that if they weakened the power of the government
in India by delaying the settlement of this
question—if they called upon persons both in Eng-
land and India to imitate the question for two or three years,
'hey would be inflicting an injury which no good govern-
ment, for years to come, could retrieve. The hon. gentleman
(ldr. Bleckett) had denied that our Indian empire was an
anomaly, and he had referred to the vast possessions of
Spain and Portugal in South America. Ile (Mr. Baring)
accepted the illustration. (Cheers.) He granted that other
nations—that Spain and Portugal—had held large territo-
rial possessions, but where were the native populations
over which those states had once held the sway ? We, at
least, had never attempted to exterminate or expatriate the
native population of India. (Loud cheers.) It was true
that the constitution of India might not be such as • law-
giver would have devised, nor such es would have fallen
from the pen of a Bentham; but it had at all events mein-
taioed uninterrupted the connexion between England and
India; and had shielded the inhabitants against all the
horrors of internal dissension and of intestine war. (Cheers )
For his own part, he did not wish to see the government
of India in the hands of the Crown unccntrolled
by the intervention of some independent and elected body.
(Loud cheers.) If they should not maintain some inde-
pendent check upon:the acts of the crawn,they would see the
affairs of India made the sport of party purposes, and the
of j:ct of party triumphs; and its good government would
he treated as a mere secondary object. (Mr. Hume :
" Hear, hear.") Ile (Mr. T. Baring) should be glad to
promote every system of education, and everything that
could be devised to advance the social improvement of the
people of India; but looking as far as his ken would reach
into the vista of futurity, he could ace no prospect of the
native population ever exercising the power of self go-
vernment. (Hear, hear.) The people of India were so
divided by difference of nation, cute, and religion—eo
burned with mutual jealousy and hate, that their union
was impossible, and unless supported by our intervention
they would fall an easy prey to foreign aggression. (Hear,
hear.) But when hon. gentlemen talked of placing India
under the immediate and uncontrolled power of the Crown,
let them look at what had taken place in our other colonies—
in Jamaica, in Ceylon, in the West Indies, at the Cape of
God Hope, and in Australia? Was there any one that
would say that the interests of those colonies bad not over
and over again been bandied about from side to side, and
had been kept like a shuttlecock up its the air, until they
had answered some party Reno-me ? (Cheers.) He (Mr.
Baring) wished that our empire should long remain undio-
membered, because he was one who thought that its
vast extent had been conducive, not to out welfare,
alone, but to the extension of civilisation and the hap-
piness of the world. (Hear, hear.) Ho (Mr.
Baring) firmly believed that Indian reforms could be far
better effected by means of the present machinery than by
revolutionising the whole country. (Hear, hear.) He
agreed with the hon. member (Mr. Bright) that this was no
question between Manchester and Essex ; and he trusted
that it would not be made a question between parties ; but
that all would unite to procure India that form of govern-
ment which shoeid be the best suited to her wants, the beet
calculated to expand her resources and elevate her teeming
population. (Loud cheers.)

- -
' Sir T. MADDOCI avowed himself still unconviand of
I the propriety of immediate legislation. He did not how-
-1 ever object to the introduction of the bill, as affording an
' opportunity for discussion. lie objected to the present
form of government, but was not prepared to run a risk in
coda to change it entirely, and would be contented with its
reform and modification. lie suggested various reforms,
such as the removal of the invidious distinction between
the honorary rewards conferred upon the military and civil
services; and he strongly urged the admission of natives
into the legislative council.
Mr. DANDY SEYMOUR said that so little attention had
been paid to the various petitions from India that it must
be felt throughout that country that sufficient OM was not
bestowed upon it by the Lome government. The committee
which had sat was composed of 39 member', of whom 31
were either members of the government or in some way
emended with the company, leaving only eight independ-
ent members. They had all heard what were the feelings
of the chairman of the committee; sad everyone knew
that when a chairman had such very decided opinions, and
the majority of the committee agreed with him, It was
utterly useless to bring witnessesbefore such a committee.
In fast, so extraordinary had been the conduct of the go-
vernment ea the committee, that, having last year finished
tbie question of the bonze government, it had been n-
=ag= by the President of the Board of Control only
reeks ago, (Hear, boo.) That was certainly an a-
nimism that be had sot gel sufficient eridenee on that ques-
tion; and then he astually brought In his bill before the
radesse was reported to the louse and put into the bands
of swab's,. (Hear, beer.) The commonest railway NU
Mb meet iasignideaot subject ever brought before the
harm—would not be treated with snob disrespect as
Mat. (Hear, hear.) Yet this was perhaps the greatest
garde& that could possibly mote before them, and one
of the mast influential as regarded the welfare of Wiliam=
NM (Hear, hear.) He felt deeply for the Indian people.
Hi bad had the opportunity of observing the effects of the
eggesite principles of fear end love during two or three
prase which he passed in the RI MINI Asiatic • es.
Hs had been there while the old a yawn, which we were
WS determined to pursue, was io existence, and also when
the sew system was introduced by the moat able adminis-
trator of the time in Europe 10 years sac. The latter had
bona erowsed with the greatest success; and the result
W Ws to increase the Russian influence throughout the
whole of Asia. He had listened to the speeches of Sir C. Wood
owl Sir J. Hogg, and he heard such a continuation of
eais-representations from beginning to end ; he believed they
were calculated to give a very false impressioa to the people
of England. who, he hoped, would study the subject them-
selves, and not be guided by the Whig minister. The Whig
policy of 1839 was not one that brought success or glory to
this country; it was eminently a failure ; and this was the
policy that was now sought to be continued. Sir Ju. Hogg
had said that boo. members did not consult the papers laid
before Parliament and the evidence before the committee.
His answer was, that that evidence was taken before a
partial committee; it was not worth anything; and
it was looked upon in India as a mockery, and
was so designated in the public papers. After
addressing himself more particularly to the grenences com-
plained of, he said he believed that more than half the
members of the opposition viewed this measure only as a
temporary one, designed to break the fall of the directors.
The policy of the government was to keep this buffer as
long as they could ; but they knew very well that the
nati-n.s sense of morel responsibility having been awakened,
the Court of Directors could not be continued very long.
' lie would not enter into the merits of the bill then about
to be introduced, but he would put it to the government
' whether they did not think that agitation would go on just
as much after the bill was passed emit would have done bad
legislation been delayed for another year—whether they
would nit soon be compelled to undertake the responsi-
bility which they had shown themselves so anxious to
avoid ? (Ironical cries of " hear, bear," from Mr. Ileitis )
The hon. member would base an opportunity of speaking,
and as the representative of the important commercial cen-
t stitueney et Paisley it would become him to state the
: grounds of the course which he intended to take. (Hear,
I hear.) He (Mr. D. Seymour) had endeavoured to explain
r whhe could not agree with the right hon. gentleman (Sir
C.Wood) that the government of the East India Company
: ' had been successful during the last 20 year,. He thought
that a government which had neglected the administration
t of justice, which had debarred the natives from employment,
; I which had done its best to prevent that fusion of laces
; ' which ought to follow when one nation settled among
lanother, which was responsible for defects of police, for
; la low state of trade, and for the piecing obstacle in the
way of the settlement of British traders in Indio, was not
, ' a government which had contributed to the happiness of
• 1 India, and not one therefore which ought to be allowed to
stand.
_ .

Mr. ARCH. lIASTIE said after the direct Mission made
to himialf, he would ask the bon. member what he meant
to prescribe in order that India might be properly
governed (Hear, hear.) He had heard faults
enumerated, he had heard abuse of everything that
had been dons is India during the last twenty years,