The Express.
London, England, 1849-09-08 00:00:00

BRISTOL, September 7.

B,OOK-ExcitAdx. The market acme exhibited a
inner lons, sad pr's were loads, up ; there wait not however' an,
large amount of barium &au Brirtol and Exeter new Alms
cloned at 10 dis; and Great Western fifth shares at 121 ex. di,.

YORK. Sept4nab4r 7.

STocx Excataroz.-Bves: Great Northern Preference
(ne. Woe). U. tie.; North British Preference, Si. 10s. SW; York
sad North Midland, 211 211.

THZ CONVICT WILSON.—On inquiries made at
Kirk&le Owl, we (Liverpool Mermen) were positively in-
formed that the execution of the murderer, °hewn Wilson,
will take place to morrow week, at 12 o'clock. 8 1 per-
mits amembled last Saturday in front of the gaol, under the
impve!•ioa that the execution would take plea The 111111,
darer is still being attended by the Rev. Mr. Dupgici, but
nothing new has been elicited. He continues to protest his
hineeenee, and his demeanour is not at all *Massa,

erproo.

OUTGOING NAILS.
The mans for Britis't Norit America aad the United
Sums will be made up ea the evening of 8 pt. 14.
The mails for Vigo, Oporto, L.shon, Madeira, Cadiz, and
Gibraltar, will be made up on tier. 17.
Tire West India Mails, rzetudii it Bermuda, Havanna,
Nauman, Honduras, New °Oren., and ' and including
those for llad.ir, Bt. Jaast-drrNiearegus,New Granada.
Chili, sad Peru, will be made up as ilia ay. al..g 01 Sept. 17.
The mails for abraltar, Malta, Omer, the lonian !Glands,
Ceylon, Ind.a, and Chios, use Southampton, will
be made up on the morning of S. pt 20.
The man, ens Maraailira' to the Msditerraneaa, Egypt.
Crylan, India, liong-Kong,ite., will be made up on the
'etudes of Sept 2;
Tee mails fur Id adrira, the Brae's, and Bassos Ayres,
wilt be made up on the evening ut Out. 4.

NIGH WATZII AT LONDON AMON.
Tor D.—Nonial. I k I. Aftenuna. Ik. llr♦.
Tu-ip.asow—MseulAs, II k. lAA A/4room, lIL Nal.

LONDON, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 8.

FRANCE is menaced wi h a ministerial crisis. We
are glad to see that tt is shaking of the rolitical soil,
this love or necessity of chant., d es not proceed
from theorie, or from eel timent, from dislike is this
person, and distaste to that form of government, but
from a substantial and practical struggle of interests.
As to whether a republic is b -tter than a monarchy,
or a monarchy more respec able than a republic, this
is a dispute that slumbers, and that few, save these
personally atxious for a restoration, me to solve.
Bet when it is mooted where or on what class the
burden of taxation shall lie, then the dispute waxes
warm, and the antacnism immediate.
It is M. PAM, the finance minister, who has thus
aroused the French to th • c n ideration of the it ma-
terial interests. M. PASSY is ow tt e most plain-
spoken men that ever hell..he office of great state
acenuntanr. He indulge e no illuei ins whatever,
flatters neither the public nor himself. He never
ooversa deficit with the promise of a surplus; he
never appeals from bankruptcy to glory; and a fair
balance of ace mute at home is much more to him than
any amount of influence and dominion acquired
abroad. How M. PAS•Y came to sanction
such a coyly and puerile apt culation as the expedition
to Rome, we cannot well conceive. Bat if he has not
oppos• d the more adventurous of his party, in their
eagerness to have their whistle, he at leant tells them,
and the country, pretty plain') how it is to be paid
for; nor dues he gloss over the oifficulties of so doing.
" With what sauce will you be devoured r licked
CALONNE of his contribm.bles. PABST never mii de
the sauce, but simply asks where he is to take the
.lice, wheh take he mule'. There ere nearly half a
mi/liardof francs required for the interest ot the_ public
debt, nearly half a tellberd required for the French
" war and marine." Here are forty millions sterling
demanded, without any mention of the necessities of
domestic administration, enormous in a country which
administers everything. M. EMIL 6 DE GIRAKDIN
puts these figurer together, and draws from them the
eonclueion, which he thund, re furtb, of "bankruptcy
or disarmament." PASST does not come to either of
thee* conclusions, but he comes to one quite as alarm-
ing to the French—an income-tax.
Amongst the political maxims which recent events
have added to our stock of knowledge, there is none
more irrefragable than this, that universal suffrage
and excise duties on the übjects of the poor man's
consumption, are quite incompatible. To give the
people the right of tranchier, and then tax the salt
they eat, is an utter impsstbility. But this is precisely
what the French conservatives want to do. There is
a considerable deficit, a went of receipts to meet
exrenditure. M. PASaY addresses himself to men of
property, and asks the m to give him one or two per
cent. 'the men of property reply. " and tax
the ea, the wine, the beer, and the spirit
of the poor man's consumption." The finance
minis er rejoins, tt at it is im purr. hle. that government
must keep the peace, and have a majority ; and that
the only means of d dog this amidst a system of
popular repreeentation is to lighten and keep light
popular taxation. The conservatives and men of
property will not, however, understand this reason-
int, and they re commend in .11 their counci's gere-
ral of dem tmente, to put on the exci.e taxes agsin,
and if the people murmur, to expend the produce of
these taxes in soldiers and gendarmerie to keep them
down. M. PASSY demurs alike to the wisdom or the
econeany of such a regime. And it is rumoured in
come quince that M. PASSY mu.t resign.
Whilst stating the causes and the arguments of
this quarrel between the champions of direct end
indirect taxation between the havers and the

earners —amorgst tie neighbours, we are not blind
to the f ,rce of many of the objections made by the
French to the inc, me tax. Its inquisitorial nature
is, first of all, intolerable. The Frenchman consents
to ply • land tax, a hoc e tax, a tax upon, and in
pr.portion to, the value of hie furniture or to
the refl• of his residence. He pays window tax and
shop tsx. But that a mteirrate or a commissar
ehonld inquire iota his a sviLgs, his in al income, this
intrusion upon a Frenchman is FO repugnant, that
more than one minurer, we prophesy, will fail and
fall in the attempt. E,ch timid man declares that it
is merely the pr. ptra,ion f a list of proscription and
confiscation, to be used by the Reds toe nr,ment they
are in power. For all people seem to take it for
granted, that the Reds must one day or other be in
power, whilst at the same time the utmost pains are
taken to exasp,,rate tht se A,M4 Reds, and goad them
into the most vir,dictive temper. I. all thee acts, this
policy and sentiment of the French conservatives, we
most s •y that we descry aa iiitle towage as wisdom.
M. PASST has not c ,nfitird his innovations to the
startlin; proposal of an iticome-tax. He broaches
another heresy, which is, that all dews incurred
should be repaid within the half or three quarters of
a century after they we'e reined and spent.
In the present iedeb'ed and over-burdened
state of the country, he ohjrcts to increa‘ing
three hu,dens, and flinging them recklessly upon
posterity, to pay as they can, or wipe oft as
they pie 'mt. A great many of these public works
are warlike works, f r ee'ence or offence. M. PASSY
is of Mr. SAMUEL GURNEY'S opinion, that to go on in
full pesce increuing the c, un ry's debts, for the sake
of military forces or e.tablionments, with, tr meking
any provision for those d bin, or even pointing on.
how they are to be lightened or paid—this the stat• e-
man as well as the b 11-broker. Res mu.t lead ts., bank-
tarry. And M. PassT startles the Frsoch with his
plain opinion, elm st as much as Mr. GURNIT has
startlel the Times and its optimist public of unflinch-
ing conservatives.

Tile select committs e rn the navy, army, and ord-
nance estimates tiger rep. rid, that after an nnintsr-
ruptad peace of 33 years, the charge to the coal try
for hell-pay to officers ,if the naey and marinas
diminishes very s'owly. In 1827 it was 881,0001.,
for the year 1847-8 it wee 723,7881.. The committee
upon this remark that, " In rcgaid to the officers in-
cluded in the sc,ive list, it might be supp e d that
their half-pay ouaht rather to be viewed as a
payment to secure fu ore strv'ces than as •
mere rtmaneration for the pa-t. The num-
ber of officers on the active list, according
I to the estimates of 1848 and 1849, is 3,609. Further
information shows ti at a large portion of these are
from their age disqualified tar service, and that the
active list, as it is callsd, is not a lief of effective
officers." That this r.mark is not untiut ded is clear
from the fact that the aversg- age of 130 admirals is
70 years, scarcely one being under 60. More than a
fifth of the curtails are "qui.e unfit •or service."
Of 870 commanders. " one-hslt are unfit for rimier
serviic ;" and ot 2,310 lieutenants on the navy list,
"at least 1,300 of this nuarbm are disqualified for
employment at sea."
It is clear, therefore, that a very large proportion
of the money spent in half par to naval officers cannot
be considered as a payment to secure future services.
It is pur ly rimuue.a ion for pa-t wait es withou•
referetrxr to (ware efficiency. It bi cmor a, thentre,
a curious p. i t to determine the i a.ure of the past
services which are animas. d by he B and of Admi-
ralty to jus ify the grant of a per Idol f )r ,he n mainder
of tee life of the officer, with the right f gradually
rising in the service in w',ich he it dim:paha d for
emoh.yment. In the words of the fate F 1,4 Lord of
the Admiralty bef,oe the Gmmittee of the tioi,ee ot
Common., it would appear th it the only MI r ice r e-
military to Peel', e this peintrietit pull upon the
purse, 'a for old offices to" work their way throu4h
the li-t." ho long as their nam a gradually advance
on the navy list, other service is quite sup rerogatory.
Tail "working thr. azh t..e list" is a es rake which,
if estimated by its rew.rde, mu.: be a m.st important

one, as it entitles a man unfit for any duty to rise
step by step in his profession, and to receive a gra-
dually increasing salary from the Exchequer. In
what does it oonsist P It appears to be an admitted
principle. that " when officers are once admtted into
the service, they have a claim on the public." A
second axiom is, that " in fixing the animal number
of cadets into the navy, a margin must be left, to the
di.cretion of the Admiralty." That is to say, that the
number of persons yearly allowed a permanent claim
upon the public. is lett to the discretion of the
Admiralty. Lord AUCKLAND thought one hundred
the maximum average of first admissions into the
service, and yet in 1846, 226 cadets were received
into the navy—rather a wide discretional marisin.
This is the first step of the list ladder. The Admi-
moraine:sled/re
nephewsaflin ltteodf theirtheir sons and hesowins,eanl 1,1
e
ready to sell his vote, or of some very lug*, very
noble, but very poor family, whose political favour
must be obtained—toaether with a moderate sprink-
ornelf
ling of the sons of old officers—to a " claim on the
public." The young gentlemen are fed by the pub-
lic ; they have the same wages as as able seaman ;
they are ins,ructed by an officer paid by the public :
and after thus learning their profession at the public
expense, they pass their examination, and
become clamorous for promotion. To avoid
" disappointment to those pressing for admission,
into the Lieutenant's list,' we have the large in-
discriminate promotions which, in the words of the
committee, "have crowded the baltpay lie, have
prevented the diminution of the dead-a eight of the
navy,even in a long peace, and which have entailed on
the public an unnecessary but heavy expenditure."
Thus the second step of the ladder is attained.
Several courses are open to the young lieutenant
It would be a hopeless task to work up the list of
lieutenants, and yet the proSability is that, without
influence or Interest, it is the only course to pursue.
Tire admiral's son or nephew. or the hopeful heir of
vote or proxy, gets over his two years' service, and
works Lis way by a leap into the list of
commanders. A large majority of those who
enter the naval service never attain a higher
rank than this. They have worked their way so far
up the list, and may fur the future eat the bread of
idleness. Their pay is the same, whether effective
or non-effective—whether they have rendered real
service to the country, or have merely made a succee-
eion of yachting cruises, in delightful climates, at the
public expense. The grand obiect is attained. They
have "worked up the list," and they oration° to do
so unemployed, probably unfit for employment, or
anything but anxious tor it. What is the result?
Why, that admirals may be pointed to on the Navy'
List who have received pay for the last thirty or
forty years, during which time they have not
been one day emp'oyed. Many of them, it is true,
did good service during the war, and deserved their
reward. Others just saved the time necessary to
enable them to enloy their next step, and retired into
the quiet of domestic life. The reward in both cases
was the same: in one deserved, in the other a fraud;
in both so arranged as to impair the efficiency of the
service.

We may u well just cite one instance with as little
personality as possible to show that our statements
are not overcharged. A noble Earl on the list of
Rear Admirals entered the naval service about the
year 1800, and after serving the. prescribed period
attaired the rank of lieutenant in 1806. While
lieutenant he was emplojed at the capture and de-
struction of some French armed store-ships, bons-1
bards, and merchant vessels, which were defended by
strong batteries in a bay on the coast of Spain. Re
wu promoted, commanded a sloop in the Mediter-
ranean, and obtained the rank of Post Captain in
1812. Sines then we hear nothing more of his ser-
vices, but he has "gradually walked up the list"
un:il, in 1846, he attained his rank of Rear•AdmiraL

Here, then, is a young nobleman tetuOt his pro-
feuion at the expense of the country, who had the
good fortune to be employed in a boat affair. For
this he Wag promoted, and got prize money. Afa r a
service of about twelve years in all, probably from
the age of 14 to that of 26, enjoying himself in a
cruise in the Mediterranean and paid the whole time,
he retires to the half-pay list snd " works up it," draw-
ing various rates of pay, from about 2001. a year to his
present pay of 4561. a-year. We should certainly be
considerably within the mark in stating that during
the thirty-six or seven years this nobleman has served
his country by " working up the list," he has received
for this service upwards of eight th-alsand pounds,
and now draws a permanent pension for the re-
mainder of his life of 4561. &leer, he being oi the
retired list. llis ply, therefore, is clearly not to in-
sure future servic'-, but to reward the past.
This is no solitary iestanJe. If called upon we can
adduce when' equally startling,and we probably shall
do so before we arrive at the inquiry, "How long is
this system to be allowed to continue ? " or endeavour
to show how it should be amended.

THE HARVEST IN BERKS.—The weather daring
the present week has been most favourable for the harvest ;
rat arly toe whole of the crops having been out and safely
housed or sleeked. In the low, damp, cold lands there is
still, however, a small quantity of wheat and burley to be
gut in. Should the present favourable weather continue for
another week or ten days, there will scarcely be a load of
corn to be carried. The crops, upon the average, are far
greater than those of last year, and equal, generally, the I
yields of the most prosperous seasons. During the past week
there have been some heavy rains, which were mush wanted
for the green crops—turnips especially. The potato disease
has made is appearance in some parts of the county; but in
a far more mild and less extensive form than during the two
part poisons,
SUPPOSED MURDER OP A GAMEKEEPER NEAR
lialethrox.—On Wednesday night the town of Hamilton
and the surrounding neigabeurhood were thrown into the
utmost excitement by the reported murder of a young man
named Joseph Kirby, who acts as gamekeeper to the Duke
of Hamilton. The information was conveyed to the sheriff
by a me.senger, who galloped from the scene of the murder.
The sheriff and procurator final immediately proceeded to
the place, and made inquiries, which but too truly verified
the report. It appeared that about seven o'clock in the
evening, a young farmer, named Dick, was airing his
hie horse on the highway between Blantyre and Hamilton.
When near a part of the Crorkshields road, known by the
name of etuneymeadow Toll, his attention was incidentally
arrested by a man, having the appearance of a labourer, carry-
ing over his shoulder a gun, closely followed, at this distance
of about fifty yards, by the gamekeeper, Kirby, who was
accompanied by two powerful dogs. The gamekeeper
seemed to be pri ming forward to overtake the labourer ; but
the incident was net of such an unusual character as to ocea.
soon any suspicion on the part of Dick, and he trotted along
'he roof fur the distance of abent • mile in the direation of
Hamilton, and then turned his horse's head homewards.
During this brief period, not more than twenty minutes,
which bad eloped from the time he had met the men near
the toll, till his return to the spot, no sound had alarmed
him, and the horror of the young farmer may, therefore,
be conceived, when, within a few yards of the spot where
he hid seen Kirby in life and vigour, so recently, he die.
covert him lying in the middle of thei path with his face
fist on the ground, • stream of blood flowing from • wound
in the side, arid the two doge standing motionless beside the
corpse of them master. A moment's glance at the prostrate
man showed that death had been instantaneous. He had
been shot through the heart. The farmer instantly gave the
alarm at the nearest oettages, bat nothing whatever had been
seen of the labourer on toe highway ; and it is, therefore,
conjectured that, of firing the shot, he had crossed the
S Id in the immediate nerghbourbood and made his escape
in that direction. Though Dick does not recollect hearing
any mind, the tenant.; of a small cottage about half a mile
hone the scene of the murder diatiact/y heard the re-
port of • gun at the time the shot must have
been fired. From the appearance of the ground where the
body was first discovered there does not seem to have
been any struggle between the unfortunate gamekeeper and
his murderer. The gun, too, must hey. been in close con-
tact with his per-on when fired, part of the coat being
scorched. It is unfortunate that the casual look which
Dick obta ned of the labourer in peeing, was not se minn'e
es so enable him to gin a very good description of the
areassin, but we understand that a party having his appear.
ante was se• n by more than one individual in the course of
the day loitering about the neighbourhood. It should be
men- Toned, there is reason to believe that a boy was in com-
pany wittithe murderer, which circumstance increases the
chance of hie speedily (Alin,/ into the hands of justice. All
the necessary steps have been taken by the county authori-
tin fur his apprehen•ion, which we earnestly trust may prove
succe'sful 'the unfortunate deceased, who was a fine
provi-ing young man, was • native of England, and was
much r ale et d in the locality. He was unmarried, and,
with 'he exc peon of a sister, has no relatives in Scotland.—
Noels Rritisi it

CM, I) Pot, taro DV ACCIDENT.—On Thursday
an inici .t w 5 I Poi at N ^m' pon the body of a child,
names Loma. jonnson, Red 11. It appears the deemed's
mover w 4, wisou tees d waits 11..., an 4 on Tuesday Mat seat
a young woman ,sho happened to be in the house for a
peunyw.,rth of Mrs. BUTIO11'• " fly killing stuff." On the
w ,men's she placed the mug, which contained
he Avid, on thechtinney piste, and left the house. Immo-
dia sly n her sit, the deceased came io, and, unperosived
by Lis p‘re. t, drank of the preparation, and loon began to
tea sink. flis mother becoming alarmed, sent him with his
fa fto the dispensary, but the remedies applied were of no
avail Mr. fsf althy, resident surgeon at the dispoisary, gay.,
eel ley e the effect 'hat the deceased tied from taking a
Auti.n. of snwnic. The jury, atter animadverting on the
sweaters. of Mrs. Burton, returned a verdict of " Accidental
death &ea taking arsenic."—NoitingAens Review.

gbe Court.
BALMOILAL, SEPT. s.—Her Majesty and the Prince.
tl•ei Prince of Wales, an l Pr.ncess Hayti, attended by vs
iMarchioness a
pony amin oof Dna°
yester and the Hon. iss Dtwson, drove en
to
The Right Hon. FOX Maul° attended the Privy Coma
Mr. Cuarles Or. villa was the Clerk of the Cluard.
TIM Earl of Aberdeen and Mr. Charles Greville will is
the only additions to the royal dinner party.
At the Privy Council held by her Majesty on We&
sudsy at Balmoral an order was paned at the Coursed
kt
a prayer, on account of the great mortality of the ch9lern
and the Archbishop of Canterbury wu directed to prepini
form of prayer.
Despatches were sent off yesterday erening fro*
the Colonial-office for the Governor of Canada, and also tat
the governors of the other Ncr.h American c-doi i.e. Inb.
.patches were also sent off last evening from the Colonial.
office for the Governors of Ceylon and Hong Kong.

[Prom last night's Cauetk.)
FOREION-OFFICE, SEPT. 7.—lc is herd)! notified
that Viscount Palmerston, her Majesty's Principal &crew,
of State for Fartign Milan, has rectived from ter Majesty'',
minister at Copenhagen • cespatch inekeing a curneanciee.
Hon from the Danish government, dated the 25th et Acog
last, dee' ring that the bl 'eked. of the ea t coat of the
duchy of Holstein, with the harbours of Neustedt,
genhaten, with Fehmer Sound, and the Day a' Kiel,
the entreree of the Canal, is naiad —The Ministry ,4 the
Navy, at Copenhagen, the 25th of August, 1819.—(S geed)
ZAHILTXANN.

THE QUEEN AT BALMORAL,
BALLATEit. UF:f•DAY.
The Earl of Aberdeol arriv.d ut I.lllrnor.l, oa
visit, yesterday evening. The noble lord we! recidu our
to-day, and depart at an early hour to-morrow m raise.
His lordship posted the distance across the country from lie
own seat, arriving before fix o'clock. His appearance keg
created corsiderable speculation among those who c,ncats
themselves with the royal proceedings. By the eih.la•
formed, the noble earl's visit is regarded as betokening ells
abandonment of the ddsign to go to Haddo Hoiso—f,
deed, such a purpose wu ever entertained.
The royal party passed the early portion of yea rrday fa
walking about the grounds. About noon, her .Mej :sty eaa
the Prince, accompanied by L rd J. Russel,, and e vend
other mtmoen of the suitv, drove cut in the diming,
of Abergeldie. When the rood began to ett rugged
and broken, they aiiobted, and walked to Abergeldie tore;
where his Royal Highness passed some time in deer.siiik.
log. He shot ,we roes. Oa returniner, they found the vehi-
cles awaiting them at Lochnuer dirdlery, and r.de from
thence ro the c oils, which they reached about three.
The Price of Wales, accompanied by Mr. Birth. angled
in the morning, and rode out in the afternoon. Th, other
members of the Lmily, attended by Miss Hticbord, ramblel
about the grounds as usual.

DEATII OE SIR GRAVES CH v3iNEY HACOII7O3,
KT.—Tbe above eminent oriental scholar died at S Cload
on the 26th ult., in the 62nd year of be gyre. 'lie (lensed
gentleman was the second con of the late Dr. Haughton,"
branch of the Hoghtons, of Hoghton Tower, Lancashire.
He entered early in life the military sank* of the Bea
It die Company, and was some years on the Bengal estabbsk.
went. but owing to ill health was compelled to relinquish dal
service. He stu lied the oriental languages in the ultras g
Fort William, Calcutta, and there obtained very MA
honours. In 1817 he was appointed one of the free
lessors at the Bast India Company's College or Haley.
bury,. and in 1821 was elected a Fellow of the 11.711
Society. He continued to fill his app..intin. et at
Haleybury up to 1827. In 1832 a vacancy urril
for the Boden professorship of Sanscrit at Osi..td, he
became a ca..didate tor that honourable situatlon• but b
withdrew in favour of Mr. Wilson, the other competitor let
this honour. He had in the previous year filled lbe hoc
escretar)ship of Royal Asiatic Society. He was connected truth
eyeral learneu societies abroad, and a member of the Freed
Institute. The respected deceived was the author of Pt v“al
works, among others editor of the " Institutes of M. nu," ie
the original S.nserit, author of a "Bengali Grammer," a
"Bengali, /Unseen and English Dictionary" velualle
work), &c. He was knighted in 1833 for hie distinguished
attainments in Oriental literature by the late king.
DEATH OF LIEUT.-COL. MAUNSELL.—We hive to
announce the demise, in Limeriok, oa Tuesday, of
Col. George Manuel!, who fur several years commanded the
3rd, or Priam of Wales' Dragoon Guards, end eery. d with
great distinction in that regiment, and the Peel -rule (ma
April, 1809, to the end of the war in 1814, 'oche :mg its
battles of Tal , the winter campaign of 1810 ice the
lines of Lisbon; actions of Campo Mayor and Ln Santee;
battles of Boma) and Albuera ; action of Caere sieges
of Ciudad Rodrigo, and Badajos ; battles of Vahan and
Toulouse. He commanded a squadron at the cavalry ell it
of Usagre, where three French regiments were defeated by
the 3rd Dragoon Guards. He retired on half-pi unw
techtd in 1843, bur, like hie old brother Lin r in arms,
Colonel Stawell, 12th Lancers, he declined retiring from the
service.

- -
APPROACIIING MARRIAGE IN HIGII LIFE.—We
have to announce the ■pproaching martial/I, Cse . E lerani
Arthur Somerset, M.P. for Monmouthshire, eidea son of
the late General Lord Edward Somerset, and c 'win of the
Duke of Be ,ufort, with Miu Miles, daughterol Mr. Witham
Miler, M.P. fur East Sauterset,hire. The nuptisle will be
celebrated at Leigh Curt, the splendid sod of the tatn.r
of the fair fiancee. near BriAril, in the course of thi. month.

THE BERMONDSEY MURDER.

EXAMINATION OF THE PRISONERS.

The following, which appear, dia a sec and edr i .n of the
Express of last evessinr, is the conclusion of venter lap's re.
anivation of the Manning., at Southwark Police Court;
E. Langley examined.—Was sergeant in the dot etive cans
lice, A division. Had been employed up to the 27th Aug.
in inquiries respecting this case. Arrived at Jersey on ills
24th. Lockyer was with him. Visited Prosper-home
Jersey, on Monday the 27th. Found the prisoner Manning
in bed. Loekyer and witness immediately secured him.
Manning maid, "What are you all about h. re ; are you
gong to murder me ?" Had known him beiore. Wdne
made himself known. Manning said, " Oh, sergeant,
I'm glad you are come. I was coming to L olden
to explain it all. Is the wretch taken?" Suppoiena las
meant his wife, he answered, "I believe the is. but I don't
know only what I see in the newspapers." Manning said,
" I suppose they found a great deal of money with hi r. thir-
teen or fourteen hundred pounds " Witnsse anseend,
" I don't know, butyou must consider yourself in custody on
the shocking charge which took place at your house in LAP
don." Manning said again, " Oh, I can explain it all teen
I get there." Witness told Lockyer to put the handcuff. on.
Manning sail he hoped they would not be used, but witness
said he must do his duty. He proceeded to the gaol. In
going there Manning said, " I am perfectly innocent ; ski
committed the murder. She invited him to dine, and
he came when the cloth was Laid. She asked
him down stairs to wash his bards, and wt en
at the bottom of the stain she put me hind
on h's shoulder, and edict him at the bark of the head
with the other." Capt. Chevalier asked Manning what Fe-
mme of the b .dy. He answered, " She had a gr.'s dug for
it." Witness remained silent, nudging Capt. CM va:irr not
to ask questiona. Manning again spoke to witness at the
gaol on the following morning. Witness cautioned Lim,
saying that what he said he (witness) would he bound t• re.
port. Manning said he was perfectly innocent, and could
explain it in a few hours. Witness proceeded : While I weas
on board the Dispatch, he asked me whether if she was to
costing be would be free / I said that. as an Aker, I must
be excused answering that question. He said again, "Rho
must confess as soon as she sees me. lam sure she will,
especially if there is a clergyman present." He then repestrel
his statement as to the mode in which the murder has teen
committed. Witness believed that a conversation tack p see
with Haynes, but was toe sleepy at the time to know vr'.at
it was about. examined his bolsi on Monday last, in the
presence of Ann Armes, in Scotland-yard. In the pocket of
one of the coats found at his lodgings, I found some gun-
powder, about a charge, loose. In the same pocket we. vme
tissue paper, as if the powder had originally been f. hied up
in it. I and Haynes hays had conversations oa this matter
in the regular course of business.
Crom.examined by Mr. Binns.—The objeet of this erns-
examination was to elicit that the statements of this and the
preceding witness had Leen prepared in collusion, but
nothing of the slightest importance ware elicited. Langley
stated simply that he had prepared no written statement.
H. Lockyer, examined I am police conetebles 90 A.
I arcompanird Sergeant Langley to Jersey. I MN
present when Manning was taken. Wan curside the
coach when he was taken to prison. Was at the gaol en the
following morning, when a mdavenation took place between
Manning and Sergeant Langley. Manning complained of
the die. I heard Langley caution him, almost before, a
word had escaped hie lies. I heard him make no statement
after. I was ha 'f an hour at the gaol. I came over in the
Dispatch steam-boat. I heard Manning, on the voyage, over,
any, She will never be hung for it; she did it, bur the
Duchess of Sutherland will intercede for her and get her
off." Manning was handcuffed to me on the railway. I heard
a conversation betw-en him and Haynes. Haynes cau ioned
him. He said that he was a fool for leaviag London. He
said she did it, and did it because she could not die happy
unless she did do it, for he had deceived her twice. First about
tiling the house ; O'C innor promised to go and lodge, but
had not kept his promise.
This witness was also 'cross-examined by Mr. Blocs, but
without shaking his testimony.
J. Benet, examitod—l am a clerk in the house of Killirk
and Co., sharebrokers, 6, Bank-chambere, City. I saw in
the latter part of July a person whom I knew an O'Con-
nor. Ihe male priaoner in the dock is the man. I saw Lim
last night in the prison among twenty-six others, and knew
him immediately. On or about the 31st July he cam• re
make inquiries respecting the disposal of stock and mu
mode of doing business. He saw our manager, and went
away. On Aug 21 I saw him again. He apologised, as, ins he
should not want to sell the stock for a few days Oa lift
Aaiun he came again, and brought the stock with hp.. 110
produced it. I have it about me—twenty shirrs conao.l.
dated stock Eastern Counties. I asked him hoe much
money he required. He said 1201. or 1301. I said
I can let you have 1101., and he said that
would do. I asked him his name, and he said
" Patrick O'Connor, and I live at 21, Green wood-
street." On that, I advanced a 1001. note, a 51. not., sod
Ave sovereigns. The transfer was signed by the prison. rin
my presence, and I witnessed it. I received the notes farm
Mr. Hammond, another ch rk in our office. Ile WAS t. ka-
tive. Said he was going to Devonshire, and should send me
a dish of salmon tea

S. B
ike
esarird—l ohm Sisk to 1011iik and
Ow The primmer in the dor is Us ass who isms to our
are r Purr O'Co' see. Wilson read the mmures of
M seta is when the oak bad rem patd tor. 111tem I
. .•• arm to my broths dark the ass who Galled
Cjmmlf
Pwriek O'Osaser was preset.
Arm Meld Ondl h szamised-1 am a oh irk im the Beak of
zssuigg, 1 rodeos a husk mote for 1001, No. 16,043, 6th
jam, '49 lust mesa was brought to uto te too exchasiged
• flatun;sy, 11th Antust II start my whether the party
ass lolled on to put his same en the sots. I Sad as the
Marimp, No. 17, New Wars suer,
Hoteendory." I pie him 60 sorreigao, sad • riot let
INK I Sri se roorkstiom of the person. We should her
siond t• pay without am adrift Thom is IMOdlif &Mr
so sh• note, het ace addrem.
J. ezinained—l am a *Mk is the Bork of ,
japleed. 1 rosined a Sabot. I gam • party in ex Asap
for It fit* autos of 101. sash the somber wore 67,372 to
07,376, Soh loclusive, dated 11th ars is the present le.r.
Mr. B idkis said here that Mr. Mozhay was sot priest,
god would set be rill the trial; but he might rate Shot tri
lw Iwo hi, AM tirs,iiisaad were bud es Kn. manalai
st idiaborgh, eis in
the fir read aro whir bad Wen
✓iessi hyto• eh broksr.
W. firibleor ermined—l as sollsiter. The ramp on
se brit el tir 1001. sots I. Massing's hand•oritint.
hurt Wills &aphelia namisod—l am • stock-Maher.
I was sroaistod with tie late Patron O'Connor. He
,as err is my errs. I doliverod to him Gas 8 timbre sad
Nese" in-re in the 6th of August last, Or oilers were
6,460 to 6,469 is hoist. On the 11th of May I bought ten
Amines/ and Ami-no for Mot, numbers front 48,666 to
48,874 inclueive. I hareems them same I. the possession
M Moak, the Ildinbursti utlicer. (The Waal* phi
err was toll to rood up.) That is the per.
mss who cam. to sy ~fir early in August, ..141, she
bed mime wry to invest. Br Introduced heart by "Wad
die was rememmaded le me by Pottigh O'Connor I asked
bar Whst sae whed to law* at" Bk. armored.
Stook the. •ris soul t sill atmead... I sugggeleg
Bootee." She wetted Swims and id use, and B nilogne
sad stations. S out as a4drese "Mrs. Mannino" on a
Mom et paw, which I bats lost. I told her I rum describe
but in the books farther .piaster, widow or martini woman.
Br said she stud to rya ore stank which she could sill
irksome to her huraA. She as d she should have sham
or stock tha was nit regiitored, so that she could sell it
without any nevrol. She said oho wool' all again, but did
not. W.. 0 rail ea; swek is sot registered, it pews from
hand to b.nd. She asked at a variety of questions tuella,
intfinnisae b U.S point
Croseremird by Mr. S Amines—Mrs. Manors waited
SS.. arm. in. Ist 4 Aaga-t, certainly before I delivered
the loot lot of shares to Mr. O'Connor. I meant to smithy -
the sabj et to Mr. °Tows' when he raw, hit totally tor.
got it. 11 did not say that h• had soot say press me re.
Wm. Bylord, emmined-1 ma a eab-driver, No. 441
On Wedseedev. 16 h Aram last, took a person front Bann
bridge's, 14, o..enom mean. I went to the gaol this
atomic,. I picked sat Mooning. He resembles the man I
took ire y ono ; that is the man. I took him to the
Sitithmeptao rsilw y. He had a small hos sad carpet beg
It use assist a tri r before eight in the morning.
Crowe:in hied by Mt. Blues—How many fares had you
that day ? That Is a very curious guistion to ask. I don'.
hoop them MI in my bead. (Liulliter.)—Do you know
every fare ins wry ? I think I should kauw you &psis.
(Cootinuod liughter.) —Wes there an to melte you
rscolleet this genriostaa I The witness, replied " yr" and
&rube d hoe Manning had takes hum a meat cissitous
nobe.
m, &Obis said he (lid not was to go any further that
day, and wished to Ix a day for the rmansil. The ro-
weling went thou anyoureed to three o'el'ek an Saturday
(this MO work Intimation was Ora that if it was pro-
poem to ult. ~.0 evidence, sores would be gives to the
prim sets' ...limos If they nerved me motifs, they right
look apr it es mthly a formal remand,

COURT-MARTIAL ON COMMANDER

PITMAN, R.N.

Trt'reukT.

The mar resumed this morning at half-past 9 o'clock.
Allred H Iy—eolled by Mr. Elliott—Q. Were yoe in her
MoPary's snip Coilame, Obeli I first j.itted, at the Cope of
pow p. t A. Yes.--Q Wises did you pea foe boat-
ovals? A. In 1842 —Q. Were you in the Childers at the
/lbaretise is 1616 ? A Ye.—Q. W, re you in the Childen
hem that time to this period of her stoking OP the
?teas shook ? A. Yee. —Q. Wm then a main-
Immil loot, or wit, whoa she was on the Prone
*sale ? A. Will yea refer to the log of H.M 8.
ad.gmeeel.ust in the It se of stores during the time she
wee so the Pre as Ihuale, sad see there whether • maintop
mil is rmosoltri is hot. A On reference to the toe et the
kit es O ieth r, 1846, 1 and the entry of me isaintopsall as
W.II you nti r to your exposer book of that day,
end state •h they • maintopiail is there recorded es ex.
poded ? A On referring to my moms book of the
some date 1 1161 the wry, • One maintopsail
low wash. d overboard, look st the leg."—Q. Who
moist tli s lam coley ? A. Dlr. Asdrewe the cap-
let.% desk with waterloo t..the book befogs the
Q. Frees what other bash did Mr. Andrew. ropy this nary?
A. Pose tic • rough exposes boils which I kept.—Q. Who
mode the .stry to I..ur rough tams • ba,k ? A. I did.—
Q. By • maiden (Id you make this entry? A. Through
Mr. Too sot. by th orders.—Q. Wee the entry
you en :mode tom or false ? A. Partly true.—Q.
toe • sot okieh tort of it wee toss. A. We
hoc pot es • mainieposil ; it wee spiv, and a part blows
away. —Q. Wes it • pert et Ws topsail which
rosooleil to ham bees meshed away, lost, in the
Isphoek and .spew-book ? A. I he.. we lost part of a
tegoaiL -Q. W.. they. • part of sty %oral lost Of wished
away wk ..1 H.M 8. Childers was oa the Prato shoals? A.
y • remember • maintomail being cut up is
the sit of ik. Childers some lie. alter al* was got off
Ike l'rat.. Sinai. ? A. I remember that • maintops it woo
cut up to vs WWI pare Mite ship.—Q. Did you make any
entry to pone exposes-book of the menintopsail helms
so deem .y. d A. This entry in the elms...boot
is on irregolar mama of toe topsail I hare al-
ready sae toward ea • port of it befog lost by
blown; .wm —Q. If this is an irregolar carry, why
did you ant make • ortakm entry of theexpo. of this
mationtseil, a weeedasse with the 24th article of war ?
A. My Bosom as 14 whom I received the order hoe regard.
fee the Iwo of fee malatemeari, sad not seeing anything very
mums myself, I esimcdoeed to be eatheienc—Q. De
mst immuckise to 'swoosh.) in her Majesty's
semicr, in ass.rdariee with the Quota's 'mulattoes, direct
them to hop • striet sad metal sad true secoast of
the expenniture of all stores ? A. T. the beet at my
beim age sad recollect:on they do.—Q. Were you
aegai.wit of • kammock-clith being wished away
&nag the pried of H.M.S. Chikl•es sallies from the
Ilaunque, and moving at Auckland. New Zealand ? Yes;
nod no Jo red out t damaged.—Q. Will you refer to the log
ef that period, and read the entry respecting lames of
H.M.S. Chill-rs at that time ? A. Heel.' referred. the
kg.bersh, I find as sorry of the loos of a hammock-cloth.—
ta, Was .r....r not a sew hassock-cloth, or memos tor
ere, drown trim Hon,t Lap, In lieu of that said to hare
bees het? A Yes, 1 remember there was new ethers
draws as that account.—Q. What breams of the
frifirriala canvass and other thins so drawn ?
A. To the best of my resilient sa. pert of it was used to
mat la eater" ag the main-deck rein-aware, the month der
he boato rail covers, a vain; covers, and canons other other
Illfpn-re her Skivvy's ship Childers.
Capt. Btr Thomas Holland—ln stating the loin too the
Prates shoal., yeet tor • part of a maintopsail ; state when
yea did se? A. Ia the night after hi Mos Hoog•Korg.—
Q. Then. that I, es had mottling whatever to do with the
maistoomil listened se lost on the Pratas shoals ? A. No.—
Q. Foe what yea have said relative to the lees of •
honsooek omit, are the court to staderstand that you drew
• nese be-• mak Moth, or materials for making • new
hemainek e oil, in lies of toe ow mid to be lost, bet
erlueli was sit hot. A. Yes.—Q. Wee this transaction by
the owl• r of the coammader ? A. To the best of my ,
kriewleir it was by o oler of the commaader
By the Pi odeut—lf the brig was in se much went of
trees for the repair of sails se you have represented, why
did yogi no nirommestil Lieut. Tremlot to expend the
ON., sop mil is the regular nay of the smoke ? A. To
be beet •1 my roe illecti I did. I had • long c.averat.
am im .1% the subject. Held me it was ordered;
seeitig wrtbing wonm than the irregularity, I did not
ions.

Captlift NI le inag ill—l tbiok you said ewes was dtvrtn
hr a mew harmers k el to ; was say of that snares used for
lispeinna in the hassmock rink that was washed overboard,
r 1 att. twud. nonrated? A. The cloth was c nitiaually
T. p.n., sad it is more than pmbable the some of It
uwd.—Q Are you mansard that any of it was
Owe ? A. I ean,et swear to it.

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Crerain Jo .....ton•—Do you think it likely. or ii it usual,
'Despair an old hammed' sloth with new airless? A. The
Hitt waa .let riot; It was new from England. Q. How
hoe he . i• h en in aro ? A. About six months.
The Pee 4 lent: When was the Childers rt fitted Ow set-
tles its ohnre at thr Pintas? A. Find, at Prates, and
mend v a, H .oi 11,rig.
Th. Pri.on r —Were there not four topsail. of the same
be, tad were no. ail of ties split of or leaving Host Kong,
lames te,thorog Pratte? A. Three were split up, and
methee No. 0 •t the saps.—Q. Was not the one cut up the
went nf the wit le, and unfit for a bending sail ? A. It
vac —Q. W .. it not afterwards used for the -benefit of the
movies ? A. Ye. —Q. Was it not publicly known in the
hip, • al to Mr. Elliot, tee late natter ? A. Yes ; known
Mercy man In tne ship with his eyes open, but I do not re-
thenithr to h or. bad any conversitiou with Mr. Elliot on
Me sabgnet —Q Did Mr. II lint ever object to its being so
turd ? A. Not to my knowledg .. If the old topsail had
Mg been cot up and used, other canvas nose have been rot
ey T ... r..pi re tot which i; re • owed were sem/nary and
Intent. A't r the Child-Ts re•orrr.l from the pmts. ".,
Lee lincg, • surery of tie dem' .1 StOMI was bold by
, 16. ni , fa O. , he 0 Op and other ori rro. Oe•he arc survey ma
the Tern iir. of the running riirro ,' t.; eh at of say oreollee
be, Mr. Eliot wax ; lout ee the artoto.t survey of tho otawiteg
*Mow. 1.1 .n't remember he was. It was %ter the re to.rot
* the Ch. der. to Hoag Kong from the Prat.. Wet Mr.
ales 11. e. N.V. to me &bow :he toped. On referring to
the Meg ..1 tn.. 14 h Orober, 1818, I bellow the retry as to
illieet VW •y .4 the heemork netting is true. They ..• re
*111,„ o'l4 by the eerpenrer's cow. and a part from the Cm
mr, end. to tse hest of my r eon. vino, part frog the
Ilemt. Ire ant 'a" whether or not Mr. Elliott was seam
W the ea, •,I1 h. 11.1 le lid for at II wr Keeg. in 114.• of
111 hums eit.i4e.h. Mr. II liott..o my , did no.
ilieft d I• the •ap adhere of the cinema Ise the bansoeck•
oh,
211 CIO' Hu. Donnell—Woe' goentity of mans had you
....sor4 ".1, a h.. 91 Pratea.hoal, b.!to 'slag to the Merl. or
''''` "'ln ? A. 140 or 150 yards, ItoM•wora mad old one.

wes.—Q. Nal yea Series treat the sissatlon yes were
tia us isy at that saws? A. Yes ;or el to
ilit•4ll a eassils of esils.-0. What gqwdq wee it ne-
ellesy to use t A. To the beet it say reefeetlon Ws watt'
he,. sea aprorde S 400 yards end WILLIO within the rod
410_11111114s Nei mad Hing )[Date• the raider
belessaa the r -et and Hoag Leer VMS OS=
SIM • speribere °taiga. gaiatity.-41 Ws so
ef SW erns oesseary it A. Yes, it woo spot, the
/wider spa would not mead without it.
The Prosident.—Bad ion es sass la_ your own &urge
wits pa got on sham* the Pass lhaeL A. Fifteen
sleds Said 1.111811. We Mt Bops Kees with that.—Q.
Then is tho save espied* ea the led o:tober. sass
belnaglae to the seems ash Iteriare ? A. Is part, the oth r
put was eels of sehreipodi entered before.
Mho* Taylor therh late toper S H.M.S. Chilies
Q Wes yea the was of the Csiders oa bee
aster Ntswildna * a disiot Tees in 1846 ? A. I wposint
bike to die leg sad we/ the entry as to say pert et the
horessek sloth being wash* away. A. On Oat. 14, 111411,
I 84 the only; waslatts away waist hassirk
Were pa the Shirr of the watch at that thee, and is
par algaa•ure attacked to the entry ? A. No. At 4 esiesk
I was relined It happened afterwarls.—Q. Is thare way
entry of the low of the hammock netting. by being washed
away previous to the Childtrs being oa the breakers near
New Zeslead. I mesa, daring the tins we were als,nt the
Chad of Si. Psal's ? A. HiMay referred to the log, the
*lass said, he said dieser nose, nor sold he replies
say.

The promoter haviag referred to the log, and foetid the
War* to white referaros bad bows awls, read, " 9th B,pt.,
1846, Washed away by heavy sea starboard waist hammock
net ings."—Q. Were you the eater et tits watch at this
tiara? A. I was.—Q Is year signature attached to this
entry ? A. It Did any meth loas occur as it hare
',corded ? It did.—Q. Is it Me that ths waist hammock
ermines were washed away, lost? A The netting, yais
Q. What do yen sows by htaanairek•nattiart; was the who!.
washed away ? A. Tb• betiding of Us setting was, bet not
the cloth or the rails.—Q Are yea aware V whomit • repairscaw dby We median wen duo ?A. y the carpi near of
the ship.
By Capt. Johnstone—Ton say the boarding of detaining
was washed away; was the hassatosh-oloth distinct five thr
netting, or was it sailed ? A. It was nailed to the rail the
board was washed away —Q. Was it a datable tatting ? A.
Yea, it was boarded Wade sad out —Q Wi.re both Os inter
sad outer board's' washed away ? A. The cuter war washed
away aludetnor, and the hum was much splintered and
broken.—Q. Was the baranioek-cloth nailed to the Inn or
outer rail ? A. Tho oats, rail.

Job. BJmoss,lat;earptgter of her Kejesti's ship
'Childers, was called and examined by Mr. Ellett—Q. Do
you remember either of the hammock at gimp bring washed
away on the Pb, Sop., 1848 ; and, if you do. who replaced
them ? A I remember tho haranstyk netting* being washed
away, and I replaced them.—Q Refer to your expense book
now produced, and read the entry of the tripenditure of
stores fur replacing the netting,? A. 10th Sept ,1846. nerd
in repairing waist hammock netting; deal, ordinary, No. 1,
else in masher; English oak, 15 feet; nails, sharp 4d., 31b. ;
nails, sharp IM., 31b. ; and nail*, sharp 101., 51b.—Q. Was
there a hammock cloth washed away also ? A. To the best
of my recollection there was a part i.f one.—Q. Wee there a
hammock netting washed away shortly previous to this?
A. I do not molleet any before the B'h, or alter the 10th.—
Q R..fer to the expense book for the Bth of Sept., 1848, and
my wt at storm were sxpenead that day to repair hammock
netting* ? A. There is nothing in my (munee bock for
that day about the repairing of hammock netting.; but
there was some canvass and bottom expended that
day —Q. Were these last stores used far making
pod the battening down of the ship ? A Yes.
I—‘l Did the widect to ship on the 9th of September
happen through strew of wetther ; and if so, was not the
marine Maigh at the time undergoing his punishment aft?
The court refused to allow this qu stioe, as it had referents
to the sharp of cruelty, and the witness was called is con-
nexion with the other charges.
Sir Thomas Moitland— lie the log of the Bth Sept., 1848,
it appears that the port waist hammock netting and cloth
were bath washed overboard and lag ; is this comet ?—A.
To the beet of my belief the netting was wuhtd away, and
the bettor ballot the Mama cloth.—Q On the next day,
the 9th, it is stated is the log that the starboard hammock
netting was wombed away; do you believe this a true entry ?
A. The starboard side was also 'embed away, bat saved and
replaced again; the entry, therefore, I think correct.
Copt. Wellesley—Look to your rim se book, and see if
there is any entry of stores impended on the starboard ham-
mock netting at that time ? A. There is not ; it was re-
placed with a few nails.
The prosecutor here stated that this finished the evidence
he had to offer on the charges of false retry and expendi-
ture ; he had the marine Bright, to call as a witness on the
ether amp&
The coast was cleared, and on its reopening the president
rotalled—

Charles Hembree, who was examined yesterday, sad
asked—Q. Was the main topsail, that was cut up at Hong
keg, nol6lll* that wee beat when the vowel was on shore
at the Prates, and which is reported to ham been " lest or
washed overboard ?" A. No.—Q. What main.topesil was it
that wee eat up at Hoag Kong ? A. It was the main-top.
mil we had bent before we left Hong Kong, and had
split and shifted.—Q. What became of the main top-
sail that was boat when the brig was en
sk ,re at Patna ? A. It took the vessel to Hong Kong.—
Q. What became of it after you came hack t 3 Hoag Kong ?
A. It was repaired spin, and brought the meal home to
Beelend.—Q. What eaavms wee It repaired with ? A. New.
Q. The mantes-mil that vela my was split sad shifted,
whet beam's( that ? A. It was cat up at Hong Kong.—
Q. W.s it repaired before ? A. No.
The Presideut.—Now Mr. Graham must come in as pro-
cantor, and John Bright called as a witness. Mr. Elliott
may Isom the mart.
John Bright, a private ado, Royal Marines, being sworn,
was examined hy Mr. Orshant.—Q. Did you serve as • marine
oa hoard her at gears ship Childere on her late voyage ?
A. TM—Q. Did you ever volunteer to do duty as cook,
feed, if so, when did you do en, and for what period ? A.
Yee, I voinateered to be • cook a little after the ship left
Ragland, end did so for about 16 or 18 menthe.—Q. Were
you released from the Wry amok at that time ? sad, if eo,
by whose order ? and state the circumstances which gave rise
to your bet so reamed. A. Yes I was retorted from the
duty of cook by order of Lieut. Testiest' ; it was on account
lathe state of my health. I reported the state of my beads,
and that I could not stand the heat of cooking, to the first
lieutenant, and that being is • warm climate, it did not agree
with me to stay at the coppers. I several time s requested
le as to quit the coppery, and the first lieutenant would not
allow nee. One day I went to him four times, and the nest day
be mid I might get *neither man to do the duty. I did so,
sad left.—Q.Did you report 'envie:leo the surgeon,and did he
interfere on your behalf with Mr. Tremlett ? A. I several
times applied to the doctor, but he did not order me to leave
the copp-n, and if he spoke to Mr. Tremlett or the muter
I sever heard of it —Q. Were you after this again ordered
to do duty as cook ? A. I was one day Pitting on the fore-
castle, and Lieut. Trenton came and ordered me to go sad
cook the victuals. I went immediately on the quarter-deck,
where I told the Lieut. I would rather do my own work a. a
marine, that I came to do and was anxious to do. He
ordered me below ; when I went below they piped to supper.
I declined to serve the tea out from the sappers.
I was had up before Lieutenant Tremlett. I old
I him concerning my health, as I had before. I desired
him not to send me, as I was uti fit to go. Mr. Tremlett
im-
wdiaaly got Mr. Smith, the aseistant mune, Sergeant
Criwdy, and Simms Haycroft, to withal what I said. He
I asked me if 1 kaew what he said, and he wished me to go
below to serve the tea up, which I told I fin I could not. I
was then Nat below In irons. The nest morning I wee had
up before lienteaant Tremlett. I told him I could not go
to the I remained aft till the remainder part of the
day. as taken no before Com Pitman. I told him I
could ammo tease ewers. Me Commander told me that I
did sot mess is daddy to do as I liked. I mid I did not.
I told the Oseemesder I came in the ship as a marine, and
wished le de a marine's duty ; and if I was not allowed to
do a merlove duty, I could not help it. The Commander im-
mediately mid that I was to do es he ordered me, and
said he would make me go as wok at the eoppen, which I
denied. I would not. I was /mashed. I was seven days
on bread and water ; knapsack from 8 **clerk in the morn-
ing to sunset, sad then in Moos till the next day morales ;
anion days grog stepped, and ten days watch on the form
eastle.—Q. How long a period had elapsed between being
relieved from the dal of cook before you were ordered to go
to it mein 1 A. About nine or ten mouths.—Q. Did you
earry one hoopoes' from eight in the morning until sunset,
at the same time you were on bread and water and slept in
been. A Yom—Q Where the other parts of the punish.
meat carried out at the same time, or did oce follow the
other ? A. They were all at the same time, that is, I wss
led ea bread and water and in irons at night, andluapeack
drill, sad grog stopped ell at olio time, and at the
end of seven days I west on the forecastle
watch and watelt.—Q. Do you remember the boy Cleveedos,
and if he was putithed ; and, if so, state the punishment ?
A I remember the bay Cloverdale being servant to Com.
Pitman oa the voyage home from the Cape of Good Hope.
A party of marines were engaged in puttying the inside of
the ship. I was on the combings of the skylight of Com
Pitman's cabin, and saw Com. Pitman knock the bay down,
and then take him up and clop both his heads around the
boy's neck. I meat on the lower deck, and told the cap-
tam's steward to make an excuse to go into the cabin, as the
boy Cleverdon was singing out very muck indeed.—Q. Have
you seen him punished stony other time? A. No, I have not.
The President—Where were you kept ,when in irons ?
A. Ia the steerage, close to the main ladder.—Q On deck
or in a hammock? A. On the deck.—Q. Do you know
what has become of the boy Cleverdon ? A. No, sir, I do
not.—Q. When you saw the commander act as you have
deortilied from the skylight, who else saw it ? A. No one,
to my knowledge ; there were many marines on the quarter-
deck, but 1 cannot say if they sow it.—Q. Can you name any
of the marines who were so en the gaiety-deck ? A. Yes;
Marines Simmonds, Boulton, and Doyle. I should think
they might have heard the screeching of the boy. I think
Mr. Graham was at that time officer of the watch.
Capt. Johnstone—When you were desired to Co duty as
frok was there no ship's cook in the Chtlden? A. There
w.t. a man who received the money, but he did duty as a
quarterataster.—Q When called upon to do duty as cook, did
vole refuse, or decline to do so ? A. I reasonedwith Mr.
Tremlett for about half an beer on my nee being able to do
the work ; 1 also reasoned with the tansonsiier. He said,
" I.'s no good ;" and he would make me do at ; and I then
said that I come to do 'be elute of a merino, and not that of
• snip's cook, and that I would not do It.—Q Is the court to
understand that it was in consequence of that refusal that
Tot were punished? A. Yes.—Q. Were you obliged to
sleep in irons on the nights of the days on which you did
knapsack drill, and wee fed on bread and water ?
A. Yes, for the seven days.—Q. Daring the nights you were
in irons was your bed on the deck ? A. Yes, sir.—Q. Is the
wart to understand that the 10 days of watch sad watt&