The Express.
London, England, 1851-02-19 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 19, 1851.

made good beer, hut this year the crop was injured,
and the molders would not buy it. It was utterly re;octed,
and bad to be sold for 16.. or lee. the quarter, whereas if
there bad been no duty it would probably fetch 245. or 255.
Turning to the foreign trade, his lordship contended that
enormous quantities of grain were pouring into the country,
from Corkin• quarters at low pekes, and promised hereafter ,
to be still larger and cheaper. He proceeded with a variety
of quotations to show that the nations who sent us their
cons purchased no more of our numufacturcs in consequence,
and argued that there wee a large and incessant drain of
capital as a eon/sequence of this unfavourable balance of
trade. He insisted upon the necessity of retracing out
steps, and dwelt upon the injustice that was committed
when all clauses connected with the land—owners, occupiers,
clergymen, and labourers—were suffering from the effects
of the policy now pursued, that the Chancellor of the
Exchequer should be the onto person who would not con-
sent to hear his proportion of the general depression.
Earl GRAN% ILLE (who was very indistinctly heard
throughout) said he should dispute the exclusive posses ion
of the gift of prophecy by noble lords at the opposide side
of the house. The noble earl who had just concluded re-
ferred to the extent of land thrown out of cultisation, as
also the number of agricultural labourers thrown out of
employment. He (Earl Granville) remembered last year it
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argued Ma mach more softie *.han an Mated like I
this. It woo odd to be only reckless aad desperate tenants,
those who were making a last effort to keep above water,
who continued to give employment to the regular number
of labourers ; but was it likely that men would continue to
invest money in what they knew must produce a certain
loss ? Still less probable was it, in such a state of things,
that men should be found ready to take farms for the first
time, and enter upon their cultivation; and he well knew
that there were such, and that farms could be readily let.
(Hear, hear.) He believed the diminution in the
price of meat was caused less by foreign importatiou,
than by the increased number of cattle reared at home, as
evinced by the number of fat cattle brought to
market—also by the increased facilities of internal commu-
nication, whereby the great meat markets of Loudon and
Liverpool had been brought within reach of many to
whom they were before inaccessible. (Hear, hear.)
If it were a fact tnat the labouring classes of this country
were enjoying an abundance of the necessaries of life, and
that this was generally attributed to the change in our com-
mercial policy, would it be politic, or possible, to turn round
the people, and say—" All this is true; hut there is
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not fallen. If labourers' wages had not fallen, he did not
see what was the hope of tenants and landlords. How •
could they go on if pepduction was not to be cheapened?
Earl FrrzwiLLlAM acknowledged that there was dis-
tress, but he was inclined to think that it was greatly nem-
gerated. He believed that that distress might be also ass
counted for by particular circumstances, and that any
attempt to remedy it by any general change of the law
would be entirely ,napplicable to the case. (Hear, hear.)
The noble earl who opened this debate referred mmt
to the condition of the county over which he so ,
woefully prideil. The fact that that county
was distressed could not he disputed, but he would
give some reasons why that distress did valet. Amongst
some propositions, in which he agreed the noble earl who •
had just sat down had stated one in which he could not
concur, at least without limitation. The noble earl first
said that they must not look at particular pricey, but at the
prices of the whole country. Now their lordships knew ,
that the average price was greatly affected by the character
of the corn sold. At the present moment, in the county of ,
Cambridge, he could assure the noble earl that good wheat
fetched no less a price than 42.. per quarter. (Hear, hear.)
He would not say that that was a high price, and he, for
one, was glad that they had not high prices. (Hear, hear.)
But the average price in that county, and in another which
hadbcen alluded to, was no doubt very much lower. It
was perfectly well known, and no one knew it letter than
the noble earl who bad just sat down, that the last
harvest was one of the most disastrous that had
ever been known in the Fens ; and that in most
of the markets in Lincolnshire and Cambridgeshire
the lowest qualities of corn had only realised the price
of 225. a quarter. That he conceived to be the true
explanation of the agricultural distress which prevailed in
the county of Cambridge, and in other parts of the country.
The noble lord who spoke last never ventured to propose a
return to restriction ; and he (Earl Fitswilliam) felt per-
fectly sure that any attempt to go back, whether on the
part of the present, or on that of any future government,
would be a task more difficult than they could conceive.
(Cheers.) With respect to the noble duke's observations
in regard to the malt tax, he felt inclined to agree, and
if the noble duke would only give up protection, he would
endeavour to impress the subject upon the government, for,
he must confess, that it would have been as well if
they had endeavoured to find some more effective
remedy for the agricultural distress. (Cheers.) lie,
believed with respect to local taxation that it was much
better to maintain the present system. At present he had
noticed, as every one must have noticed that was connected
with the administration of the poor law, that there was a
much greater tendency to spend money in those easeA which
were called establishment cases than in those which be-
longed to their own parishes. If such cases, however, were
thrown on the nation at large, he could not conceive a more
lavish expenditure than would take place. (Hear, hear.)
He concluded, therefore, that to throw the relief of the poor
on the Consolidated Fund would be to open the door to an
extravagance which they could hardly imagine. (Cheers.)
With respect to the existing distress of the agriculturists, he
must be allowed to say that a great number of the questions
at issue were questions between the landlord and the tenant.
He believed that whatever course might be taken in this
house or in the other house of Parliament, they would not
have a protective duty re-imposed on foreign corn; and he
was convinced that it would not be on such a question
that the present government would be replaced by the
noble lords on the opposite side of the house. (Loud cheers.)
A pause of some second+ then ensued, but no other noble
lord rising, the petitions were ordered to lie upon the table
'the house rose at half-past nine o'clock.

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distress and amongst certain classes of landlords
and tenant farmers ; and to relieve those classes we must re-
verse the policy we have been so long pursuing with so
beneficial a result, and tang at the same time deprive you
of the abundance you enjoy ?" (Hear, hear.) Noble lords
might say that that was an unfair argument; but it was
certain that the labouring classes would look at it in
that way, and those were the conclusions they would
draw. (Hear, hear.) But it was said that to be
consistent with free-trade principles, they ought to give the
farmer a chance of competing with the foreigner, by taking
off the burdens on land. '1 he malt tax had been alluded
to. He was surprised to hear the assertiou that the pro-
ducer of barley paid the malt tax; it would be extremely
difficult to prove that. It was said a great advantage would
result to the farmer from the increased consumption
beer; but the probability was that the extra malt required
would be supplied from abroad; for, though barley brought
from abroad could not be malted, malt could be imported,
and would be imported to meet the demand. Then, some
countervailing tax would be necessary to meet the detici-
eney caused by the repeal of the malt tax ; and this tax,
whatever it was, would probably press as heavily on the
agricultural classes as on others. (Hear, hear.) There was
another topic which might be much more fairly urged
as a burden pressing heavily upon the land—the poor-
rates. But it was to be observed, in the first instance, that
not one-half of the land in England way used for agricul-
tural purposes. He believed that not more than 3.1 per
cent was so used. Then it was a question how far the rat-
ing of stack-in-trade would he a benefit to the agricul-
I twists, seeing that their own stock-in-trade, which was of
very great value, would also be rated. (Hear, hear.) Ity
what practical plan could they lighten the local rates
throughout the country,upon all property real and personal ?
He did not believe they should ever return to restrictive
laws. (Hear, hear.) lie believed that the interests of all
classes of the community were so intimately bound up in the
general prosperity of the country, that it could not fail to
have a bearing upon them each in their turn. (Hear.)
That prosperity he believed to be undoubted at the present
moment ; and he was convinced that the opinion of the
nation, which ascribed that prosperity to the change in our
commercial policy, would never sanetioN a retrograde move-
ment to a restrictive system, which, after repeated modifi-
cations and changes, and is long and fair trial, had at length
in accordance with the voice of the nation been deliberately
condemned and abandoned. (Hear.)
The Earl of STRADDROKE was understood to say that
he should address himself principally to the condition of
the county of Suffolk. It was singular that noble lords on
the government side of the house should deny the distress
which was admitted in the Queen's speech. (Hear, hear.)
The state of destitution in Suffolk was such as was never
known there before. He had yesterday received a commu-
nication from the visiting justices, stating that the Ipswich
gaol never was so full as nt the last sessions. On the 17th
of February, 1816, the number of prisoners was 90; on the
same day last year, 139; and on t',: same day this year,
180. (Hear, hoar.) Returns from Ilereles and other gaols
showed a similar increase, the numbers being nearly
doubled. Recently a most cold-blooded murder had been
committed in the county; and only last Friday night his
own servant hail been shot at when in the execution of his
duty. It was notorious that hands of armed depredators were
prowling about the county, because they could obtain no
employment. (Hear, hear.) lle had been astonished at
the statement that the importation of foreign cattle had
no effect on the condition of the fanner, when it was well
known that the number imported was very large. He
hoped the government would take an early opportunity
of doing something to alleviate the excessive pressure of
taxation on the agricultural interest.
The Earl of WINCHILSEA said that, though the last
harvest had been good, the farmers, owing to the low prices,

wai eedeavoured vibe proved on
that extensive idleness prevailed amongst the labouring
classes. Well, returns were moved for and produced; aad
when it had been satisfactorily proved that labourers were
extensively employed, they were told by noble lords oppo-
site that the circumstance was merely exceptional; hut that
in six months the case would be very different. He would
not dwell on that point longer than to contrast the prophe-
cies of the free traders with those of the protectionist
advocates. On one side it was asserted that the
repeal of the corn laws would be followed by an
increase in commerce, as well as in wealth and prosperity;
whilst, on the other side,the very contrary Was anticipated;
hut he should maintain that, with one exception, the pro-
phecy of the free-trade advocates had proved correct.
(Hear, hear.) It was worse than idle to dispute the fact,
when they found that the exports in the present year (as
we understood the noble earl) exceeded those of the past
year by six millions, and of the preceding year by sixteen
millions. (Hear, hear.) Surely all that could nut be an
idle dream or illusion. (Hear, hear.) The noble earl
opposite had read letters and statements front parishes in
his locality with a view to prove his case, though, in fact
they proved the very reverse. He (the noble earl) hail by
him the returns of poor relief in England, and of the
six counties in England in which pauperism had in-
creased in the last twelve months, the total increase over
the returns of the preceding year in these six counties
was 1723, whilst in the other counties the decrease, as com-
pared with the returns of the previous twelve months,
amounted to 69,000. (Hear, hear.) He knew eases in
which rents held as high as ever, and had heard farmers
assert that of late, in the improvement of their land, they
had expended as much capital as would go to purchase it.
(Hear, hear.) Of late farmers who had been remarkable
previously for the backward condition of their agriculture
were now exerting themselves for its improvement, though
they had never done so before. (Hear, hear.) And he
would not believe that thaw laudable efforts would be un-
attended with successful results. (Hear hear.) Ile did
think that in the third year after the occurrence of
a change, which was bringing this country from
the dearest in Europe to live in to one of the
cheapest, it was not passible to expert that there should not
be some temporary shock of a few months' duration. '
(Hear, hear.) He could perceive by the leading conserva-
tive journal of France, and could assert of himself from
conversations he had with Frenchmen of various chases,
that in that country agricultural labour was not depr•ssed,
although corn wax now lour times cheaper than us MS.
(Hear, hear.) All classes, the merchant, the trader, and the
Landed proprietor, were agreed that at present employment
was found by the working classes, who also enjoyed cheap
food and provisions. (Hear, hear.) The article in the
French paper to which he had been referring assumed as a
thing acknowledged that the experiment of free trade bad
taken so deep a root that it would be impossible to do away
with it. (Hear, hear.) The article also referred to the'
effect it would have in the United States, in Spain,
Sardinia, Russia, where the customs would be amalinimatisl
and the duties lowered, also Austria. l'russia, and Norway,
and argued most coaclusisely the benefits that were to be
exerted. (Hear, hear.) Indeed, us coming under his
own official knowledge he might instance the ease of the
pensioners of Chelsea Hospital as a proof of the beneficial
effects of free trade amongst those who were dimpelled to
depend on limited ineomes. These men now dickered that
they were able to live at a cheaper rate than previous to
the abolition of the protective system. Ile could adduce
another proof of how the measure• operated amon.4st the
working classes. That very morning the chief commissioner
of police fur the London district assured him that never
within his recolleetion as superintendent of' the vast me-
tropolitan districts of London did he see the work.
ing classes a.) comfortable, so happy, and us well-disposed.
'bar.) The noble earl bad referred to the `anti ~,,

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TUESDAT, FEB. 18.
The SrELIE& took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
SECOND READINGS.—King's College Hospital Mil-
denhall, Burnt Fen Road, and Lakenheath and ltoekwold
Roads; Ministers' Widows and Orphans' Fund of the Free
Church of Scotland ; St. Helen's Waterworks Act Amend-
ment ; London (City) Sewers ; Bills.
HASTINGS IMPROVEMENT BILL.
PIOOTT moved the second reading of this bill, the
of which was, he said, chiefly sanitary.
. lIOLLOND moved as an amendment that the bill
id he postponed for one month.
.r. BRISCOE seconded the amendment, and
Ir. FItEWEN supported it.
rhe house divided, when there appeared,
For the second reading
Fur the postponement 49-29
ST. PANCRAS (MIDDLESEX) PAVING BILL.
Lord 1). STUART moved the second reading of this hill.
Mr. CUBITT moved that the bill should ho read a
second time that day six months.
After some conversation, on a division there appeartsl—
For the second reading
Against it
SEVERN STEAM-f CO COMPANY BILL.
The motion for the second reading of this bill was ncga-
'vest without a divi.ion.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
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prohio
of tobacco growing: though it was well known dant tobacco had derived no advantage. The di trance between IL prim
A number of petitions were presented on the &viceless
could not be grown in thee* countries without a protecting of 375. and 61e. per quarter involved an amount equal to
tical Titles Assumption Bill, papal uggression, penalties on
duty of some COM per cent. Then the malt tax, to which the whole rent of the land. (Hear, hear.) Farm, gam. Roman catholic., window tax, paper duty, county financial
the noble earl lid also referred, was in reality reeid by the rally were anxious to keep on their lahourers, even :et asa
boards, unit enfranchisement of eopyholebe.
costumier, mathy the agriculturist. as carry person Was frog critter; hut it was evident they could not do this marls
I'ItANSPOItTATION TO VAX DIPIIEN'S LAND.
since aware. 'here was one thing, however, that the longer. Front what he had himself seen, he was eon-
Sir W. MOLESWOR3II presented a petition from the
landowaers and tenant farmer, were entitled to know, elated that laud was going out of cultivation, and that the
north division of Van Diemen's Land, Pignut by the
namely, what alternative they were to expect from noble cultivation carried on wae becoming of a worse character. He
bishop., clergy, magistrates., and other inhabitants, corn-
, lortis oppodte, who, he aseert“l, were boom! to locale their had revently eeen people mowing wheat idetenil of cutting it.
pinning that the Colonial-office hail broken faith with
inte .. ntion as to the (aurae they would puroue with regard If they persevered in this policy they might depend upon.
them by the continued transportation of convicts. The
to. this long-dieputed queation. Though the mutter had it they would bring the agrieulturists inh, sigh a date. tot
hon. bar nut gave Maier th .it he should on 'Thursday move
e, been introduc' in ;m ealier platy, and very ably intr. winced, disc ii tent as he would not adviet any It.nernment to twang
that the petition he printed with the votes with the vicow
by the hon. member for Bucks, yet no substitute hail lain them into. It would b•difficult, perhaps, to say in what
of founding upon it a motion for the abolition of tram-
sugoreated by him, nor did be say what at all was neoceesary way this injustice was to be remedied, but as the towns
portation to Van Diemen's Lund.
to he done undo r the circumstances. (Hear, hear.) There- had withdrawn proteetam from them, they could not coin- DISTRESS IN SUNDERLAND.
fore, he would like to hear from the ruble lord the great plain if they required justice to be dune to them in this re Mr lll.DStrai gave notice for Friday next to present a
leader of the protevtionist party ((Lord Stanle)•) how the sleet.
question was to b.. finally adjueteol or arranged. (Hear.) The Earl of MALME petition from the ship-builders of Sunderland, complaining
SBL-Rir said the question was
of great (lidera% and praying for the removal of the whole
The Duke of RICH MOD said he did not rise for the whether the agricultural interest was in a distressed state ;
purpose of answering the queetion of the noble earl oppo- and the next question was, whether government ought to of the timber duty.
RENT CHARGE IN IRELAND.
site. But, as .11111,1011 had been made to the hon. member neglect that great pad of the community which they them-
Mr. S.IDLEIR, for an early day, of a motion relative to 11
fur Bucks (Mr. Disraeli), he should say that that hon. Ken- selves had confessed to he in a distre.sael state, and whether
the mode of levying rent charge in Ireland.
Renton deserved the deepest gratitude of the ugrieultural they ought nut to administer to them that relief which they DUBLIN PORT CHARGES. 1
class s, the more so as he' not only brought to the eonsidera- were in need of. In the Queen's 'Teeth it was admitted
Mr. REYNOLDS for an early day, to ask the noble lord
Beni of the quedioon an ability and eloquo'nee never our- that the owners and occupiers of land were in a state of
at the head of the provernmentaahether it was his intention I
passed in the annals of parliamentary preeeedinge, but also distrese ; but since the first day of eeseion events had
to bring in any measure relieving the inereliante and
for the manner in which he came forward ant declared lie taken place in the other house of parliament to which he
chi, owners of Dublin from the preeent heavy port charges
dal not ask that Hoopoe of Cowmen. ..... on. —which he (the noble had a right to allude, as they were pregnant with interest
leviable under those oppreedee and unjust statutes, the
duke) aew rted did not enjoy the coutieleuce of the country— and bore on this question. A great debate had taken plum
ee. 66 Geo. 111, rep. .54, and It and 9 Victoria.
to reverie their policy and return to protection. (Hear, in the other house of parliament, and he funnel it was the
Sir It. INGLIS observed that the hon. member foe the
hear.) No, the question of a return to protection should be public opinion that had it not been for extraneous assistance
city of Dublin had used unparlitunentary language respect-
fought, and won too, on the hustings throughout England. her Majesty's government would have been in a minority.
polo two acts of parliament.
(Iliac, hear.) He Aid not think it the ditty of an oppu,-i- Ile allude el to a per-son of great talents and of eneinene ~
Mr. REYNOLDS bad no objection to withdraw the
lion to enter into details of measure. which they thou elit beams.' he had been a respomible adviser of the crown, but
expreasione " uppreesiee" and '• unjust," it being under-
should be broueht forward. Their duty ass to of to who had for several years retired from the service of the
stood that he believed the statutes in question to he both.
whatever they thought wrong. (Hear, hear.) But, for- crown and had lived on hi:estate on the borders. Everyleiel?.
Mr. lal'OREGOlt poetponed his motion relative to the
sooth, the country was not in so bad a condition a. they thought the woe ern would have been defeated had
Customs for a fortnight.
thought ; and why ? Rectum. some metropolitan police not been that the right hon. baronet the member fotr
Mr. HUME gave notice for the 25th of February to
sups nntenelent reported that the populatimt of London was Ripon came rushing to their rescue. in the speech a lath
move for a return of the revenue of St. Helena, and the
very happy and contented. (" 'leer, hear," and a laugh.) the right hon. baronet made, though government must
manner in which it was appropriated.
Now in ',melon there Was a great deal of employment—the have been grateful to him for it, they must have seen that WINDOW TAX.
glass palace of itselfarforded a deal of employment. That was in some measure he did not :ever with the speech from the
Lord DUNCAN gave notice for that day fortnight to
the very thing their agricultural labourers wantedbut could throne. The greater portion of his speech was to show
move that the window tax was prejudicial to health and so-
1 not obtain (Hear, hear.) 'The noble earl opposite next cited that agricultural distress was of a very doubtful nature. vial improvement, and that it should I,e forthwith repealed.
the ewe of 'some old soldiers--and he' was delighted they The question was not what was the state of this or that
PAPAL AGGILESSION.—THE SCOTCH EI'ISCOPAL
were so well off—who declared they were never so well off man's property, but what wus the state of the country gene- CHURCII.
as of late, and all owing to the measure of five trade. rally. But he heard it sold in private that two of the
Mr J. STUART gave notice that, on Thursday next, it
("hear " and laughter.) lie (the wade duke) was not greatest proprietors in the country had had their estates re-
was his intention to ask the noble lord at the head of the
aware there existed any new regulation in Chelsea "lova valuell, and that they had been let at the Amur rents as government whether any of the law officers of the crown
tal having for its object the inereasedemnfort of the moldier; before. But what were the facts with maned to those
indeed he did not think they had much in the way. of estates? Of one of them the rents hail not been chattered for England, Ireland, or Scotland, had given any opinion
liberality to expect from the present government, seeing since 1775; the other had not hero valued for nine- that in order to vindicate the eupretuacy of the crown
snind the Papal aggression, it would be necessary that
that deserving men got conduct medals for which they were teen years, and a great deal of capital had
charged lialf-a-enown. (Laughter.) Al regarded want of been Lid out upon it in the meanwhile. These the' jam:Once provided by statute against the protestant
bishops of the episcopal church of Scotland should lee
employment unitongst the agricultural labouring classes, facts proved nothing but that the assertions made by the
that very morning several able-bodied men of ulnae- leading free trader. that the land of England belonged to a would'ullroiled. to kaarliam. ynt ; and, if so, whether the noble lord
th •
la) such opinion on t table.
pearhable character applied to him for work. They grasping aristocrecy were false, and that the land hail heen HOUSE TAX.
stet. d they lead been discharged by the farmer. let at very fair and low rents. It was natural that it should
Sir 8.11 ALL gave notice that in committee on the budget
who could not employ them. (Hear, hear.) The farmers he so, ana it ought to be so. But that was not the case he would take the sense of the house as to the propriety of
had done all in their power to keep them. Ind.sed with email estates, the proprietor+ of which were obliged to
in his (the noble duke's) district the farmers were availing exact higher rents, and it was that claw who were now suf. les-ying a tax upon houses, arid in the event of its being
themselves of excusee fur giving. a few days' employment in tering the most. (Hear, hear.) Well, the eminent person adopted, on the propriety of extending it to Ireland.
RAJAH OF SATTAItA.
the week to the labourers, paying them at the rate of ihe. to whom he hail alluded came to the rescue of government. Mr. ANSTLY gave notice for an early day to treat the
per week, and all to try and keep them out of the work- hut the noble earl opposite in reading that epeeeh mud
attention of the house to the case of the deceuesel Rajah of
house; yet. nootwithetanding, a minister of the crown would have wished that lus own estate was in the None sat
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*met e that there was no distr.'. amonget that class. But condition. They (the protectionist peers) capected that PASSPORT SYSTEM.
the result would he that, if the ',pima were carried too far, after the declaration in the Queen's speech, govern-
Lord M
the farmer. and landed proprietors would look to their own meat would have come forward with Some Ineioure. Mil gave notice for an early (lay to move an
pecuniary interests. and discharge masses of these men, and They did not expect them to reetore protection, but addrese to the crown praying for some improvement in the
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then they should guard against the comsequences—ae idle. they did expect them to have removed burdens that Apo y
nes, they all koo, w, was the parent of crime. (Hear, hear) weighed upon agriculture. They had an opportunity List Oa
tGemOVERNMENT STATIONERY.
thea motion of Mr. MIIWATT copies were ordered of
The malt tax be loeolosel upon AS the mast unjust and oh- night, when the financial 'statement was made. If, did the treasure' orders under which contract* for government
noxious out of the whole schedule of impoot., and enlarged not wish to use harsh word", but if he were to use them, made.
upon the injuries it indicted on the labaurer. 'The noble he should say that the looney enumiated in that statement atationery ire
EAST INDIA MAILS.
duke proceeded to contend that the heavily-taxed British was an insult to the agricultural interest. There was not in
Ou the motion of Mr. DIVETT a return was ordered of
farmer mule' not compete with the foreignee, and pro- the whole of it one single remission which was worth either
the expense of conveying the mail between Bombay and
flounced it impassible that the struggle could last long. Ag- asking f=or or my tinge The agriculturists would think he Alexandria, and for particulars connected with the over-
rieultttral dere...seine and the lass of the home trade would, was joking to them. if he spoke to them of the re. land
land mode of transits.
he predicted, speedily bring down the manufacturer to the miwiou of the duty on agricultural seeds, Then, SAVINGS BANKS. 1
Kane level of ruin. as to the maintenance of pauper lunatics. The
Lord WODEIIOCSE said, that if it was intended by Chancellor of the Exchequer said that half of M. srnment to bring in any hill on the subject of savinge
. SPOONER asked whether it wins the intention of
noble lards opposite to hold out to the agricultural interest it was to come out of the consolidated fund and he spoke t .
the slightest bop, or veto:elation of returnina to a restrie- as it' that were' a relief to the agriculturists to that exteut ; ' Cics during the present session. n
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had such
tive system, hr would warn them not to be led away by whereas it was not a relief to the extent of mu: hale but only ! intention, but could not 113 yet fix the time.
such a delusion. (Hear, hear.) It was extremely ,lick- to One quarter, seeing that the agriculturists thems,lves , BRITISH MUSEUM.
cult to ascertain the amount of agricultural distress contributed one-half of the cemsolidated fund. And this I
In answer to Mr. Hume, Sir Sir G. GREY said that the
actually exietg. The noble earl opposite (Earl Herd. was the only relief he proposed to give. The great evil of
na I
commission had not recommended any alteration in the go-
wide) had referred to a number of letter., which all, the charge of transfer, the Chancellor completely lout '
vernment nt the Museum. They bad, however,
recent-
were no doubt an authority to a certain extent; but I oat of the question, but he told his audience that mended the appointme.nt of an executive council, but
from such letters as thew" no general conclusion could eafely not more than sevendwelfths of the poor were tam-
no steps haul, as yet, been taken to carry out that recent
be drawn. lie {Gel
(bad telse) eou haul just as geed a right ported by the agriculturist.. It did not signify whether they. I
mendation. The trustees were actively employed in
to state his own ceperience of the condition of ciarieulture in supported seven-twelfths, or one-twelfth, heVause the other carrying out the other reeoramendations of the mom-
his own neighbourhood; hut he ehould not thank himselfportion of the coimounity Were only taxed on a small mission themselves, and had appointed subcommittees to
justilleel in thence drawing a general eonelusion as to the portion of their property, on their houses, whereas the look after the finance'', the library, and to provide iii-
ate of agriculture all over the kingdom. (Rear, hear.) i landoa nee was taxed on the whole of hie propene, and this tsetse-el accommodation in the reading room.
Ile would .tat, what he hattavad to Iw the condition of card. 1 was in tact a kiwi of smoted locum: tax upon 'ivies. The
Guttural labour in the imortant detest with which he was I great argument for free trade on the' part of the peemie rnt Mr. HUME wit that it' he did not mceive further in-
formation, he should oppose the grant of ail public money
connected—th- county of York. iie hail taken some' pains ! had becu, that the poor rate had gradually decreased. But to the Museum.
to inquire, and he honestly believed that the condition of : decreased from what tune i The Oversee was taken as come ROYAL PARKS.
agricultural labourers generally was better than it had been pared with that exceptional year 1847, when the poor rate'
for some year" past. (Iles,
hear.) 'I kiss lied no abould . moo to six million, and a half. in consequence, of the Lord DUNCAN had rather an important question to
ask the noble lord at the bead of the government. Ile
suffered a condoleratote redurtion of viva. . , hot at the mama baling of the harved. Of course it was not likely that the
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same there aa. en • tarp n 4,le.leag mu the 4,111(14e of sum uf Matey which was reilitir,l to keep the poor in 1817, wished to tesk in what number of the ruieeellaneous esti-
larsak. of taa,amptam; aoal though is the district when corn w a". at 705., coal be 'equired to support them mates the royal parks would he included.
limeneoliately surrounding his raideure, wages had be-en foe wig n torn was at Pls. But take a wider range. Co back Lord J. RUSSELL—Possibly in No. 1, but the arrange-
ment is not finally settled.
some time as law as Its a wick for au Silitiary leilemaer ; thin. en year'. ato 1e37, and take the price of eons in the ,
1 yet, taking a cal, illation .011 which be ti, .lased he could de- year ores ItileZ. Whieh St a. 311 w. which was as n..ar as pus- GRAND JURIES (IRELAND.)
! Mr. HIGGINS wished to know whether it was intended
pcud, so to the prim.. of artick• is. 0P...., neitthbouthoel, sible• that of last year, and they would Had that the rive ,to bring in any measure for the arrangement of the fiscal
~fie was eauviseed (aial this le I. SII 'tab el in pudic without ' rate Was only 4,000,0001. In 1849 it had risen , business of the grand j'llTies of Irehend.
contradiction) that the taloa.. r. win- at least as well elf; to daVialaiat. ; and even now it wa." 5,400.1100/.,
than under 4an they hub
re bowie. Unbolt, and their consume- which was 1,400,00 W. more Sir W. SOMERVILLE said it wua his intention to in-
and that where protection, 1 traduce a measure for the establishment of fiscal board. in
ties was large, they were better off thaa oho e hail been 10. - Hew slid they mount for these things ? Perhape they ;e° nnenion with the grand juries.
Ism. (Hear, seae.) Ile had been astuttishid to hear the (*mid not do so any more than he could. Then they had a :
Sir G. GREY p o-s tis. usl the vernment measure rcla-
ta
eonalushm denied which were drawn from - th. r. tarns a. sl , r...• of 68,379 peroine receiving relief since January 1,1 SMITHFIELD MARKET.
Ito pauperism. (hear, hear.) There was not Mai* • t...n.i. !+ co, tool• Illey woe still nut a 'thin 31,040 of the nullifiers !
' , go
nution of 10 per eeut. in the expereliture to! rtat t, ;o" which was the last ycar a proketion Enough ~ a h I, tiTe to the removal of Smithfield Market.
lhat a diminution in the number of ebb. bel'at pto a a 4 lo .I 'a n s Cal a ilk respect to the Lbaurers. nary could UNIVEIeSITY OF DUBLIN.
13 per cent. ; and this, sot only in eoutitiato ,L-so'. of sa se e,ba u' doubt, as the noble lord laid said, that a vast ae..rtioon Mr. KEOGH and it appeared from the public papers
neitatring Indus , but in those whcr, the jopal i- had Is-en made toeffect imerovensents, which had kept that a (*.Mail...len had lessen appointed to inquire auto the
lien was priced y employed in writ 'attire. ((lear,l them in employment; but it was stated also, by the ems- management of Dublin University, consisting of the Arch'
ord
hut') la 2' oho aguiauli'm was ti per tu lot! seat pawn to whom hi had alluded, that wages had bishop of Dublin, the
Bishop of Cork, Mr. Soulfuld, Ur.