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Tait L voicso ..... 'on l.m re ...n•la.Alianta PAVIA.
Tat I.IX lin 11:vow r I tee.
Mr. T.,:h with whom w.. Mr. Mac.jueen, en Mr.
Toyleur, stated the eireueastans o s under which the peti-
tioner came before their lordships for relief, and gave an
outline of the evidence which he had to produce in support
of the second reading of the bill. From his statement and
from the evidence, it apeared that the petitioner, Wt'ill em
Houlbrooke Tuyleur, 'had been formerly a rnembs r of d
a
wealthy mercantile firm in Liverpool, and having acquire
'efficient fortune he retired from bmintes. Ile. nab married
in May, 1&34. to Slim Emma Elisabeth Heathcote, who woo
the daughter of a very respectable gentleman, also,
as we understood, a merchant in Liverpool. The
marriage took plans in the pariah church of Stoke-upon-
Trent, in the county of Staffonl. They went abroad soon
after the marriage, and after travelling for some time they
returned to Liverpool, and after the petitioner had given
up busint ow, they resided at Lavender-bill, near London,
and at a home in Chapel-stn-et, lark-lane, London, both
helves being the petitioner's own property. They lived
together cover .inee the marriage elf Novembe on
the moot affectionate terms, and our childrer, n. They
had once while on a tour is Scotland fallen into the society
of bird Arthur Lennox, but nothing occurred to excite
suspicion. At the time of the birth of the fourth child in
September, 1819, Mrs. Tayleur waa in delicate health.
and on the suggestion of her medical attendant,
her husband agreed to let her cos and reside in his
house for medical purposes. While there, she
me t Lord Arthur Le non:, but nn one had the least suspi-
cion of any intimacy between them. On Mr. Tayleur's re-
turn to town, after a visit to his friend., he conducted his
wife hack to their house at Lavender-hill, and there the
fourth child wee baptised. After that they tame to the
house in Chapel-street, Park-lane. On the I Ith of November,
Ikl9, Mr. Tayleur went to Torquay, to visit his father,
who was there for the benefit of his health. As soon as he
boot gone, his wife took one of the female servants with her
in a cab to the United Service Club. She sent the servant
in to inquire whether Lord Arthur Lnrinnl was there. lie
w not there and, on the servant communicating that to
Mrs. Tayleur, she seemed disappointed. They drove away
then, hut retunied in the cab in the course of the day, and
Lord Arthur Lennox Ining then at the club, he
came out, and took hi* place in the cab, the
Nerviest standing outside. After some conversation,
Icord Arthur come out of the cab, the arrant went
in, and the cab shove her and her mietreee home to Chapel-
"trout. In the noun., of that evening Mrs. Tayleur told thu
lame servant that Lord Arthur Lennox was to come in the
enure of the night, and asked her to take care to let him
in. The servant said shoo would do no such thing, where-
moon her mistress was "very wroth.•"fherto was in the
courses of the night a signal outside, and Mrs. Tayleur said
it was Lord Arthur Lennox, and as the' one servant refused
to let him in, Mrs. Tayleur told another, Ann Ash, to open
the door, which she did, and so the gentleman walked in
and went direct to Mr.. Tayleur's bedroom, where he
Alnplwil all night, and went out tally in the morning by a
side door. Ile was seen by the 'servant ton that OCcasina in
Mrs. Tayhour's hood. 'lb, name occurred un the Sunday
night after the 11th ; and one of the female 'teenage having
tohl the butler, Smith, of what she saw, he wrote at once
to his master, but din cull the letter to Liverpool, and did
not Mel out hi. mistake until it was returned to him as a
inisdireted letter. That was On the tith of November, and
he then wrote another letter, and directed it to 'fooNuay, to
acquaist Mr. Tayleur with what wee going on in his all-
aeriee. He rani.. to London on the 26th, and immediately
put himself into the hands of his friends, and with their
advice did not ace Mrs. Taylor He brought an
mtiun against Lord Arthur Lennox, and recovered SOW.
damages, of which '2.111. have lean paid. Ile atm Obtained
a final montenno of separation u fuesem et thorts, in the Eccle-
siastical Court.
Mr. Talbot, in his opening of the case, was stating cir-
eumstantial matters, when
Lord Ili...ie.:ham advised him not to trouble himself with
eircumstionee., lout to proceed to prove the fact of adultery.
Ili* lordship afterwaroh, in the Bourse of the examination
of
the witnosmos, after bearing the evidence• of the female
aervante, proving that the adult nor spent twos whole
nitbts
in tho• loilly's bedroom, said that to ito into proof of other
ousts of edultery was like pouring water into one's wine.
Mr. lelleot stud mould prove soveral acts in Brompton
mid elsewhere, hut as the proof. already given were so dinoct
and satisfactory, he would not further trouble their lord-
ship..
l'he Lord Channollor, after norapitulating the evidence as
In tin- two niorlitsspent Loy the lady and lewd Arthur
together in the house in Cliapel-.tort, said their lordship
roulol not o ntertain any doubt that adultery was rommittol.
His lordship then mood the *monad reading of the bill, and
it was read accordingly.

EQUITY COUIITS.—YEATEItDAT.
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MISS TALBOT'S CASE.
11071.11 e. Will/1111 awls 0711E11/I.—PETITION or Mr. C.
BrIIIIELET IN HEN NAME.
Mr. Role on behalf of Miss Talbot, resumed hie argu-
ment from Saturday, in oppoaition to the statements and
prayer of the. petition. The caw, made by that petition
was very different from the ease made at the bar by Mr.
Iterkeley's coninwl. There w. re two more charges made at
the her. One was that Dr. Dyle. the testamentary guar-
dian, &Howell this daily to remain at the convent school from
1813 to Iftri, Ua fraud of an order of the court ho 1813, which,
ft was NMI. was obtained to allow the lady to aecumpany her
relatives shard, and it was aaid that was an imposition on
the court. The secosol charge was that Lord and Lady
Shrewdoury andiDr. Doyle conceived a design to entrap the
lady into a marriage in DOW These were the two main
points aurae at the bar. But what were the charges con-
tained in Mr. Berkeley'. petition, to which he would now
call attention. and ask that it may be dissuened, and not
digitise ol merely, hut dismiseed with orate, Its if his
hoolehip made any other order on it there would remain
WI the record. of the court a notion that undue
control was exercead over tleia young lady by her
guardian, and by Lord and Lady Shrewsbury. The state-
anent" in that petition wen., that, since the date of the order
of 1843, until very lately, he (Mr. Berkeley) wa. ureter the
impassion that the infant, Miss Talbot, was travelling
alocoad with the Earl and Countess of Shrernoloury ; that
the Countess.. of Shrewsbury hail exercised undue control
over her in importuning her to marry a Frenchman named
ir,,,a,e,rwault, who is co 1111 l ewe! by marriage with the said
Earl and Countosa. '[kit the infant having do dined to ac-
c.ale to that proposition, threats and intimidations were re-
sorted to by the nninteo. finally declaring that if she
(the infant) did not fall in with her wishoa, and
marry the said Itechelcoucault, she should take the
v. II ; that, accordingly, in September last, the said
~antes.. in pursuance or her threat, sent. the infant
hawk, accompanied by the Earl of Shrewsbury, to the
c.nivent at Taunton, not a. a pupil or visitor, but as a
(sestet:rite with the avowed objo et of compelling her to
take the veil and Ileeollll a nun ; that Thomas Doyle, the
guardian of the infant, had not duly en triaed bit legal
authority, or interfered, or re mon.truted with the said
counter. for such unkind conduct, hut acquiesced in all
thew• proweerlings reganhow the infant, with all which he
was well acquainted. Mr. Wood was obliged to ;derail=
the whole charge about the force and marriage, not being I
furnished by hi. client with any materials to support
Then:, was not a shadow of evidence in proof of this elmelpi,
than which a more nefarious or serious one was never Mai
before the court. The at:dement at the bar only west
thus far—that a priestly domination had been exercised
over her from her earliest infancy. and inductive. gradually
iwnilled into her mind with the I iew of securing her
money for the Roman catholic church. This diecrepancy
between the two statements VO made deserved the serious
consideration of the court. If it were true that
the Earl and Countess had endeavoured to force the young
Lally into a distasteful marriage, Mr. Berkeley was entitled
to have the prayer of his petition granted ; but if his as-
sertion to that effect was false—and there wag not a shadow
of evidence in proof of its accuracy—he deserred the se-
verest reprehendon which the court ever visited on a parson
who presented a petition on behalf of an infant, and ought
to have hi. petition dismissed with costs. The learned
counsel next adverted to the statements respecting the
.Sheol attached to the convent at Taunton, contending that
at was a tit institution for the education of a young lady
iu her portent. It was a highly respectable school, and
wee intended for the education of the children of high
ROlll4ll catholic families, and it had been considered •
olcairable place fur Mics Talbot. considering her position,
fortune, and connexions. and also the delicate state of
her health, which her guardian was anxious to improve.
'fire first Roman catholic families in the country had their
daughters educated at the wine school, and members of
there families were the trustees. There were among these
ladies members* of the families of the Jerninghams (Lord
Stafford's family). the Clifford', the Weida. and the Berke-
1. +. Ile nail the previews of the school, the terms of
which were mentioned in the report of Saturday, and said
that he considered the charges—that this was an impro-
per school, and that the young lady had been continued
there in opposition to the order of the court of 1813—en-
tirely fell to the ground. Ile neat pronoosed to examine
the charge that a priestly influence had been exeeeised
over the young lady in order to get her money, for
the purpose of extending that priestly inducuce in
ether directions. and thus to comp,' her to with-
draw from the world. This, he might observe, was
wholly inconsistent with the other charge, that a co-
oercive attempt had been made to induce her to enter into
a marriage to which she objected. The two charges were
suicidal—they might have done very well as plots in two
separate dramas, but to include them in one drama only
showed the want of skill on the part of the dramatist ; and :
that Vas was an exhibition got up fora collateral purpose to
excite and arouse public feeling, ha boldly avowed, and
would leave the court to judge whether it wall not. But
en what did this monstrous inconsistency depend I Mr.
Berkeley, in his affidavit, quoted a passage from the works
or Dr. Wows to the effect that no ens could eater the
Swath Naito& church except by one pto--sooondltiosol

submission to the teaching of the church ; and drew there-
from the conclusion that all educated in the faith were bound
to submit to the dictation of pried' and the superiors of
convents. But that wee not the only church which said
that its teaching Veal imperative. The same doctrine was
held by the church of England and other churches.
Th., two stories* of the compulsory nvreiage and the coerced
seclusion in the convent coutrailicted eaen other; fur if the
church wished to get this lady's money they would not
have desired a marriage, which would keep them from
touching a farthing of her fortune. In this question they
had considerable difficulties to contend with, an their wit- I
news were necessarily Itoman eatholics ; but he maintained
that the oath of a Homan catholic was entitled to as much
respect as that of a protestant, or any other subject of her
Majesty. They also depended on evidence that could not be ,
produced, as the earl and countess were abroad, and could
not bebrought to London in sufficient time, and therefore
could not rebut the charges that had been made against
them. They were told also that they could not rely on the i
statements of the young lady herself, because all that she
wrote was necessarily written under priestly influence;
hut he contended that the evidence of the young lady was
the most unimpeachable that could be found. Mr. Berkeley
had said in has affidavit that in consequence of the young
lady having refused the proposed marriage with M. Itoche•
faucault, she had been Pent to the convent in the character
of a postulant, as a punishment for her obstinacy, with the
full intention of her ultimately taking the veil ; but that on
his asking her relative to the matter the infant said that as
eighteen months must expire before she could become a
nun, there wa4 time enough for her to make known her
wishes in that respect. He then stated that the superior of
the school would not allow him to remain alone with the
infant ; but he was sure that this was a very proper course,
and such as every parent would wish to be acted upon as a
matter of caution, and the more especially in such a ease as
that now before the court. Miss Jerninghant, the superioreas,
made an affidavit in which she stated that the first applica-
tion to her to take Miss Talbot in 18,30 as a boarder came
from Dr. Winter Lord Shrewsbury's chaplain, and she
referred him to 1/r. Hendren, who gave her permission
to dispense with the rules against taking boarders. She ear.,
1" I never did in fact consider, nor did Augusta Talbot con-
sider, that she was in the convent as a postulant or in other
capacity than as an inmate, sod that for a temporary pur-
pose, though nominally, for the reason before stated, as
a postulant. She says," every person who goes to the convent
as a postulant is required to undergo certain religious cere-
monies which constitute the admiasion of such persons into
postal/lacy, but Auguata Talbot has never in fact gone
through any such religious ceremony, and has never been
required to wear, and has never worn, any drew as a postu-
lant, or any other than a secular dress, since she went back
to said convent, and I deny that said Augusta Talbot went,
or was sent, to said convent in September last as a postu-
lant, or with the avowed object, by compulsion or other-
wise, of taking the veil and becoming a nun, or with any
other object than as aforesaid," that is us an inmate for a
temporary purpose. She says, " I perfectly well remember
the visit of the Hon. C. F. Berkeley to said convent on the
14th February last, and that he did not on that occasion
speak to said Augusta Talbot in my presence on anything
about any dying injunctions of her mother ; nor did le ask
if she was a postulant, nor did she reply that she wan. But
lie asked her if she really intended to be a nun, and said
Augusta Talbot replied to the effect that there was time
enough to think of that ; hut that no mention whatever
was made by mid Augusta Talbot to the effect that she had
still six months' time before her postulaucy would expire."
She
T ha says
t no opposition was offered either by said A. Talbot
or by myself :to the pn,potal of C. F. Berkeley to come
again and bring his little daughter, the half sister of A.
Talbot, with him ; and I deny that I admitted to said C. F.
Berkeley that said infant was placed at said convent by the
Earl of Shrewsbury, with the intention that she should
Lake the veil, or that she was at that time a postulant for
that purpose or to that effect. And I deny that said A.
Talbot, during said interview, evinced by her manner or
appearance, or that it wan the fact, that she was not a free
agent, or that she from time to time directed anxious
glances towards me (an stated in Mr. Berkeley's
petition) be-fare she replitil to the questions of
said C. F. Berkeley, or that she laboured antler
fear or undue restraint, or that it wan utterly impassible or
hopeltpa to extract the true wishes and feelings of said in-
fant while in my presence, for I say that acconling to the
beet of my judgment and belief, said infant during said
interview spoke her mind, with perfect freedom to said
C. F. Berkeley. That I did not state to said C. F. Berke-
ley that said A. Talbot would take the white veil in Sep-
tember next, or that she would take the black veil in Sep-
tember, 1F,51 ; but I say that during said interview, said
C. F. Berkely asked me various questions in reapeet to
rules of said convent, and in particular as to what were
the usual periods at which the white and black veils could
be taken, and I replied that the periods varied in
different orders; that with us there were no fixed pe-
riods--that it was sometimes three monthe, but it
might he six months, or a year, or more,. and
depended on age, and the wishes of friends;
but I say that said conversation with C. F. Berkeley, took
place with reference to the general mike of the convents,
and not with reference to the said A. Talbot as alleged or
insinuated by the said C. F. Berkeley ; and, although I
think it probable that I may have said that no young lady
was admitted to the said convent a second time., except as a
postulant, or to that effect, yet I have no doubt that, if I
any each phrase, I did so forth, purpose of explaining
to C. F. Berkeley, that A. Talbot, though nominally a
poetulant, by reasan of the rule of the convent, was, in fact,
free to leave. And I positively deny that I stated the mid
A. Talbot was placed at the convent in September, IMO, by
Lord Shrewsbury, with the full intention that she should take
the veil, or to that effect, or that the said A. Talbot
replied, or said that she was not eligible for the
black veil for IS months, or to that effect. I knew that A.
Talbot was a ward of court, and on thataccount I could not
have allowed her to become a podulant, or to take the
white veil, or to bemires, a novice in the convent, until she
had attained her full age, unless with the special permis-
sion of the Lord Chancellor. And I say that I should not
have considered myself authorised so to do, had I been
asked by the Earl and Countess of Shrewsbury to consent
thereto. And I deny it to be true that I have exercised any
kind of control or influence over said A. Talbot, or attempted
in any way to induce her to become a nun." That affidavit
was sworn in answer to the statements in Mr. Berkeley's
petition. Ili. affidavit in support of that statement
was, that he went down to the convent on the
11th of February. Ile says, he was introduced
to Miss Jerningham, and in talking matters over with her,
she admitted—lie does not give her words, but the effect of
them, according to his comprehension—she admitted that
the infant was placed at the convent in September, IMO, by
the Earl of Shrewsbury, with the full intention that she
should take the veil, and Miss Jerningham also admitted
that the said infant was at that time a postulant for that
purpose : that after waiting some time, Augusta Tallied was
introduced into the room, whereupon I entered into conver-
sation with her about the gaieties of the lust season in town,
when the said infant entered fully into the same, and upon
I my putting the question to her as to her wishes of remain-
ing for ever in the convent and taking the mil,
she replied that there was ple iity of time to determine upon
that matter, as it would be IS months be fare she would
become e ligible. lie says he was fully convinced be the
manner and appearance of the said infant, Augusta Talbot'
and from the anxious glance-4 which she from time to time
directed towards Millie Jerningham, before she' replied to his
questions, that the said infant was not a free agent, and
was evidently labouring under undue restraint, and that it
was uth rly hopeless to extract the true wishes and feelings
of the infant from her while in the presence of Slim Jer-
ningleitn, and whilst the said infant is allowed to remain in
her present position as postulant in the said convent. Ile
conelud,s his affidavit, as he did hie petition, with extracts
front Dr. Wiseman's works. But the sentiments of this
young lady herself would be the best evidence in the whole
of this matter. His lordship might examiue her and
ascertain the truth from her, not only in respect of the
allegation that she wan coerced to become a postulant, but
also on the subject of the attempt to compel her to a

mIl/L2toe erd Chancellor said that when he was at Alton
Towers, in the autumn, he had a conversation with 'Miss
Talbot, and be must say that there appeared to be some
inclination on her part to contract the marriage in question,
and that there was SW foundation whatever for the assertion
that she had been forced into it by the Earl and Countess
of r;hrewsbury. He, however, thought it was not a proper
match, and had objected to it, observing that it the idea
were nut relinquished the matter should come before him
in the regular way. A short time afterwards he received a
letter from the Earl of Shrewsbury, saying that the mar-
riage had been relinquished, and that tae lady was happy
under the circumstances. ineraing that she bad unwill-
ingly relinquished it. The worts of the letter were—
.. That she was more disposed to yield to the will of Dud
than to her own inclination.
Mr. Bolt said be was extremely glad that hi., lordship
had exculpated the Earl and CC/1111UL% of Shrewsbury
.from
the monstrous and unfounded accusation that they wished
to importune her with regard to the marriage. 1/r. Doyle
also stated, in his affidavit, that he himself had great
objections to her marrying a foreigner, and especially to
the marriage in question, clearly showing that he was no
party to it. The nature of Mr. Berkeley's conduct was
further elucidated in the letter of the young lade, which
his lordship had handed down to the bar the other day,
and which he felt bound to quote, as it had been published
in the newspapers of this morning, no doubt for some
ulterior object. When conclusions were formed and pro-
mulgated in the way they had been before the public, they
were certainly calculated to interfere with the due and
proper administration of justice, and he could not too much
deprecate the practice.
The Lord Chancellor—lt is too much the practice to try
cases out of the court, with a desire, no doubt, of intluenc-
ing the conduct of the judges. A judge who attends to re-
, marks made out of doors ran never exercise his honest judg-
' went, but 1 do nut think the judges are influenced by them;
I at any rate I shall not be.
Mr. Holt—We have the fullest and most entire con-
fidence that your lordship will not yield to any such Ja-
i firrince.
T
hs Lord Chancellor—l did not think that the letter
would be published.
Mr. Parker—We know nothing about the publication of
the letter. We think it a great misfortune that so muck
publicity has been given to the matter.
Mr. Idolt—We could do no more than say that we were
ready to discuss the matter in private -, but, of course, if
' we hail suggested that, it would have been taken malaria
as confession of guilt on our part.
Mr. Berbeek, who appeared in support of the petition of
Mr. C. Berkeley, and he was quite surprised to find that
the letter had been published.
The Lord Chancellor, again refining to the charge of a
impelled marriage, said hiss objection to the marriage wan
IS moons, that the naintance had been too short, that
lie adios= raidedand that ea the you. big

had so liege • hewn, he required to know how much for-
tune the nobleman had ; and therefore he thought the mar-
riage objectionable.
Mr. Itolt then proceeded, and read, at length, Miss Tal-
bot's letter to th.• Lord Chancellor (which appeared in
this as well as other journals yesterday), observing on it I
that it was the free emanation of her own mind,
and was a sufficient answer to so much of the
prayer of Mr. Berkeley's petition as asked to have
leave to have free intercourse with her. That letter
was better than all the affidavits that were or could be pro-
: duced in respect to the wishes of this young lady when the
marriage was broken off ; and Lord and Lady Shrewsbury
going abroad, was there any place more proper for her to
gu until their return than to the ladies of the convent,
where she says she had wend nine years of the happiest
period of her life. Ills learned friend Mr. Wood, instead
of attending to the declarations of the young lady, of
Miss Jerningham, built his contradictions of Dr. Doyle's
statements and affidavits on a letter of Dr. Hendren, er
was published in the newspapers, and commented on. He
would not undertake to defend that letter. It was clear
that the writer was not much conversant with the
,certainly it was nut characterised with that-eraftarsd
cunning and subtlety imputed to the writer by
Mr. Wood. It was the letter of a bold, vain-
, glorious man, who forgot face, but seeing what he consi-
dered to be misstatements, conscious of their injustice,
rushed into a conflict with persons with whom he was us-
I able to contend. The whole tone of the letter was that al
• coefident polemic, but not a subtle or cunning person es-1
tering the lists with public writers well acquainted with
the affairs of the world.
The Lord Chancellor, with reference to the statement in
the letter, and in Miss Jerningham'e affidavit, as to the
rule of the convent against the reception of boarders, except
as postulants, asked if the rule was dispensed with in this
case by letter from Dr. Hendren or by word.
Mr. Molt did not know how that 3333 ; hut he relied on
Miss Jemingham's affidavit and on Dr. Doyle's, and parti-
cularly on Miss 'Talbot's own statement, that she was not a
postulant. As to Mr. Berkeley's statement, that since 1813
he believed she was with the Earl and Countess of Shrews-
bury, that showed the kind interest he took in her. For
eight years be was so interested in her welfare that during that
period he never knew, perhaps never inquirtal,where she was.
How or when did he learn that she was in the convent?
That was totally unexplained. Ile WAS at a lops to know
what was his motive for interfering in 18.51, he having not
at all taken steps during the preceding eight years. Were
the steps he had taken those of a person who felt any in-
tercst on her behalf ? No ; if he had felt for her, he would
have applied that the petition should be heard in private,
and nut in open court; hut he had the audacity to oak a
British judge that he should have his costa before he ven-
tured to enter into the court; but of course his lordship
would not consent to such • proceeding. That fact they
had from his lordship, the negotiation to secure the
costs of his petition. It was one of the most discreditable
proceedings that be had ever heard of, in order, as ho pre-
tended, to prdect the interests of an infant. Foiled in his
intentions, he then presented a petition to the Ileum of
Commons, which was • proceeding that could be taken
only for a collateral purpose and for the purpose of distress-
ing the young lady. The House of Commons could afford
no assistance to a ward of the Court of Chan-
cery ' • but he thought to raise • popular clamour
on the subject, and thus secure himself from any costs.
He hoped his lordship would not in any way yield to the
prayer of Mr. Berkelelesoctition to inflict has presence on
this unwilling infant. Ile was in no respect justified in
interfering with her education or management. Dr. Doyle
had always acted under the direction of the court and w nth
the approbation of Lord and Lady Shrewsbury, whose
wishes he had been enjoined by the infant's father to con-
sult at all times. The whole charge against him having
failed, the petition praying for his removal should be die-
charged and with costs, inasmuch as it stated a false case
from beginniag to end. It was perfectly competent to his
lordship to dispose of the whole case without a reference.
Ills client and all parties were perfectly satisfied with the
young lady's being placed with the lady whom his lordship
bad named the other day.
The Lord Chancellor said he named Lady Newburgh,
because he knew there could he no objection to her. lie
had met her in society, and knew her to be highly
accomplished.
Mr. Holt —She was a most eligible person to place that
young lady with. If his lordship should refer the matter
to the Master, he hoped they would not allow the attend-
ance of Mr. Berkeley, and repeated his hope that his lord-
ship would dismiss the petition with costs, for having
altogether abandoned the charges made in his petition,
and failed in the charges made at the bar, there being
an entire absence of proof to support any of than.
Mr. Bagehawe said he was counsel for the rev. doctor,
who was not a bishop, as stated in the course of this discus-
lion, but a plain priest. Ills learned friend, Mr. Holt, had
gone so fully into the whole matter that he did not think it
accessory to trouble his lordship at any length. lie knew
that Miss Talbot was taken back to the convent, because it
was considered by herself, as well as by Lord and Lady
Shrewsbury, to be the ',revered place for her during their
absence abroad, where they had gone fur the health of the
nearest heir now living to the. Shrewsbury title and estates.
This young lady had no other relations, except her half
sister, the child of Mr. Berkeley. Dr. oyle, au ecclesi-
astic, had not of course any establishment.
The Lord Chancellor said letters were sent to him by
persons stating that they were near relations; and his lord-
ship read an extract from one.
Mr. Itagehawe said she had no relations on the father's
side, and what could he more natural for her, after the
marriage was broken off, in tire way his lordship had stated,
fur the young lady to go hack to the place where she had
resided the preceding eight years, and received all the kind-
ness that it was possible to bestow on her ? Mr. Wood had
represented the school to be inferior to New Hall, and to be
unfit altogether for this lady, chiefly because the charges on
the prospectus were so low. But his inference in that
respect was quite wrong. All the schools kept attached to
those convents were of the same kind. And the instruction,
though of the very best kind, was at a very low figure, lie-
f:MSC 31110, Ittall• did not instruct for money. They were
ladies of the best families, and, of course, highly educated ;
and they themselves gore instruction in their school.
Mr. Wood would be eurprierd, no doubt, to be in-
formed that in the catholic colleges fur gentlemen the
professors seldom got more than .501. a year--even a catholic
bishop was well content with 4001. a year, and a priest with
801. Ile felt no surprise at the inference drawn by Mr.
Wood, that on account of the moderation of the charges
the school was of an inferior sort. The fact was not so.
This school was chosen for Mice TANA I,u 111,41 by her guar-
Idles°, with the entire approbation of Lord and Lady Shrews-
bury, whom he was in every circumstance bound to consult
in all that concerned the infant, but it was the particular
request of the child's father in his last moments, that the
guardian should always consult the wishes of the Earl and
Countess in all that concerned his children. The propriety
of placing the young lady at this convent was discussed
before the Vice-Chancellor of England in 1843, upon the
petition presented by Mr. Berkeley, and that
learned judge expressed himself satisfied, and said
he would not interfere with her education. (His
honour's judgment was read from the short-baud writer's
notes.) All that was then dune was to reduce the allow-
ance from 4401 to 27111. The order expressed that she was
placed under the care and management of Lord and Lady
Shrewsbury ; the clear meaning of which was, that tie the y
went annually to visit their relations (two daughter. married
in Italy), they might without other application to the'
court take this young lady with them, they being hound by
the terms of the order to render her up whenever called on
by the court. But they did not go abroad after that until
the autumn or winter of 1845, when they went out for the
benefit of the boy's (Miss Talbot's brother) health. That
was not Is proper occasion to take her. The boy was in de-
licate health, and he received all the attentionns of a parent
from his uncle and aunt. They remained with him until
' his death in 1810. It was never contemplated by any party to
the order of 1813 that Miss Talbot was to reside permanently
with Lord and Lady Shrewsbury. AB that can now be said
was, did they sec to her education ? Is there any complaint
that she is not well and rightly educated? Is there any
complaint that she is not pure in morals, accomplished in
manners, and in all respects educated as a young lady in her
situation ought to be ? There is no such imputation against
Dr. Doyle. Lust summer, when she finished hereducation,
an application was then made for 1,0001. for an outfit for
her, see she was vibe brought up to London to be with Lord
and Lady Shrewsbury. Was that an improper application?
Was that an imputation to be made against Dr. Doyle and
Lady Shrewsbury ? Was that pa of the conspiracy with
which they were charged against the happiness of this
young lady ? Mr. Craven Berkeley, who suggests all
those charges about a compulsory marriage of this young
lady, states not the authority on which the
charge is made, sod therefore latest be himself the
inventor cud fabricator of it. It is clear now, (coin what
his lordship (the Lord Chancellor) stated about the conver-
sation with the lady and with Lord Shrewsbury at Alton
Tower., that this is a fabrication. The proposed marriage,
instead of being forced on the lady, was broken off with the
approbation of all parties. He would ask, what had Dr.
Doyle done to justify Mr. Berkeley to call fur his removal?
The only charge against him was that he had silently ac-
quiesced in all that had taken place in regard to what had
been done by Lord and Lady Shreashury relative to the
young lady. But the evidence had proved that he did in-
terfere when a marriage was proposed of which he could
not approve. Dr. Doyle was nut at all called upon to explain
the mi-takes that bad been made in respect of whether the
young lady was admitted as a boarder or a postulant. The
superior of the convent had done her duty when she
admitted this young lady as • boarder, having been autho-
rised to act in this case contrary to the general rule ; she
never considered her to be in the convent in any other Ma-
racterthan as an inmate for a temporary purpose. A person
wishing to ascertain what a postulancy might be was per-
mitted to enter the convent, and who might be at full
liberty to leave whenever she thought proper to do so, for
no NOW was made on any such entrance ; she was free to
leave, subject of course to the approbation of the guardian.
The result of the whole case proved that Dr. Doyle had a
right to believe that Lord and Lady Shrewsbury had
acted with perfect good faith throughout the entire trans-
action ; and he maintained that the young lady was in the
convent as a boarder, and not at all as a postulant. Dr.
Doyle was not. therefore, liable to the charges made
against him. Mr. Berkeley had not made out any claim
whatever for his lordship's interference • and, he would
say, it would have been very improper for any guardian
to endeavour to fetter a ward of the court by euducing
such a ward to enter into a convent with the view of
compelling her to take the veil.
The Lord Chancellor said that it appeared to him that to
compel a ward of court to enter a convent was as culpable
as entrapping her into a marriage ; and he would not hesi-
tate to remove a guardian who would attempt one or the
other.
Mr. Bagshawe said that was his opinion, too. Whatever
might be the determination at which his lordship would