The Express.
London, England, 1849-05-25 00:00:00

wirer sum ponder granola from Ida youth upward.,
awl he always thought that every nun of nail age, whether I 1
• r or householder, had a ?jell: to prone the
bemelase, seed to think and act for himself. For hien, ad- I
'Maid WIN views I. rely life he hid ironed 10-
*IN lees, bat he had pent v. red t overtakes, be-
awe be we unwilling that the auff-riap M en.
deer should be perpetuated to the dor te wh.ch
M (Her.) He wastes to state two or tires cars
drash bad seas under his two observation.
The bast at rest eogii sr rise thioseeefier than they
weer—(her)' but in hie 'Pair le lard abed
tbe warbles In the tree Izmir of the ereettletran.
due, word der the reser degrading pukka of the
end trier freer, would bring airy wee
thealswi were loth* pail, sad would canoe those votes to be
era etcardies (1 the conesientions opinion of the voter,
tail bee fru the trammels of Wier_ (Cheers.)
Mr. 0. BiaILHLET cemtuieard a few murk. which
bore by diselaineles all feeler of pensaal hostility,
he add bad altogether paned bout his breast ,• bat although
be hod been erred by • free constriery ones without cot,
be re aoyertkeh a earees to let the house see to what en
ester istkaidetion had bees peactind by the landl .rte.
no her nenthie member proceeded to read entracte trims
hire written by Mar carmen in Gloucestershire, cam-
e: tithe moredea and comupti to eniplayed by rod-
v.., end the bondage in which they were held
wader **osiers system of intraidatime. The two letters
isst MI was as irdiacrep the fret Wry Dom a tenant of
Lord riterldrge:
Feemerr, Yep 11, MIL
see,—le rarer le year Ms of w SUL 1 here le inform yea thit
li Iseekip Mr to his mesa has me (mg Yam ea self befog
soave fee the bet tarty-three year), lee iv what reran Is best
rim In liwedt. I dirk lea aware Ira 110 e TOW at ell at the
Y denim. I Moe wow ny reser aseinna,
_Don that the
Ewee mirth me man Mr 1 re ming, wad if I wend set
eel. a year me it wend he let weenie melee. Not Orkin
olith Me I left et, &Shrub I Mard ilk. to Imes kept it; It
as to pod retewa, eat I woe vet rued fir sky sokivatics. I
there a warts right MI, weed haw beeedied me.—l em. der, per
armbe servant, Joan Nutss.—rts the Dositenible Orrery F.
Berkeley.
Vey thee.
Dear sad hawed Mr,-1 have Isensint yea win re lest of
et re rear tanner, Seems, at dr rear
le:timiliserse. se 1 ant
Eetearner, el Ms remidergete the Set
He wen seresehere to
lrtheseserearr.Otnillelmenert ; eV7--teldnot
sole worsassarady opla st yen. les mew Mare noirevertne sot
weie at all; ane he. Imeree, her ea wee be limTM has
bola seihret to ellspa, gee epreveres; tat IPS ar et res that
Ow mem Sem ledieriesed teem the hnsheed4 wirier Yid is,
hemp di the ss.s. shell raw what they have se area if they
Oat a env rm. neap his loran% Mee ear the karma Wm
what len asisreelea the roman sorme by his koribip ire.
beg 11wass. le,thet the ion 0 worn al. •ir mane them Mesas
glees hr IL It wuMtaa mtar Wei he NM*
Yens
en I=l
ill.ast
fed
this ea rhea, rite the eoedinstisie me air
innew, when the fame snail airs imam Wadi, Maim
mare esthriagen nen and mine are to men the welt at task
=raid. WO herr* at err • memer, ram fireons ell a
treater err& a year. frese Ileum Is soo victim to
driorth, and Set he WWI eal &dared MOOR be thethe smarty
of the Wan.—Tate meet hired ad denied bird.
The hem. member be Harlem Wired last year to the
=wirmey as twits very the happy firily, sad
Id mot avoid availing himself of the ids& on the
geosion. The government felt the necessity of ge
thriag strength from the large towns, in order to rem
their repaid for large emestituencies and the purity of dale
dos. His right hon. friend the member tor lianchneme
wee shorn, no doubt with that view, to grace the Tree.
eery beech ; hut, like a pulitical Jooph, be felt hiseseD
impelled to fiy from it is order tosses his political vire&
(A. laugh ) la ter, to coerced bad the miscue been at
the let election that they no logger looked to
the present government se steel ins to protect them.
He thought that shortening the dustlea of parliament with-
out the ballot would be useless. If they did, they would
caly throw rill greater poser' into the bars of the peers
sad landed pr. .prietore. In his owa county, If an election
were to take place every three years, it would be impossible
foe the people to raise the sum reentry for securing the
return of the man of their choice. He was curious to see
whet curse the occupants of the treasury bench would take
ea this erasion, when he recollected that the following gen
times reed forth, ballot on the 2lst of J. 1.11. 1442 :
Cal Area, South Seaff mlabire, secretary to 014134/;CO; K. M. Bel-
lew, tomb Oarribillordoffrearry ; Clem Berkeley, Glonceseer, Lord
W erdwirokTi Ilan. 0. Ong (Lord used), Mahar late
Ihereteezeined Oaten; Admiral Muria, Omura,. admiralty;
OW O. North Nortimberised, Herne Haerstity (eibliefti ;
Led M. Ember liersiend ; Hart Mon. T. IL remrse,
Cabinet Mirsese; Sight Rom run Mon, Perth City. Secretary at
War ; J. Posta. Merield, rentry of meaty; T. N.
+ate en
kWh ternary ; Night Hr. to L. aril. Drionoar
Net ; Mr Woinneerville, liengtor. ChieffleerwitT. Irel"a_LH.
Tutivell, Demerit. secretary foe Treasury; tram Craig, ems-
burgh Oty ; Lan Linnet.
He hoped he should find those primer of the arms
crier still—(" Hear, hear," sod a lugh)—puticulany as
he believed the noble lord looked upon it as an open gre-
ase. He prayed them and the house at least to make the
upriser of tee ballot at the only remedy offered for that
intiridatioa at election., which was so apparent that no
one attempted to deny it. (Hear, bear.)
Capt. BERKELEY said he never rose to address the
hors under more pinto' feelings. He should be evreoely
sorry to nuke that house en arena for family quarrels—
(hear, hear)—but a sere of what was doe to one who wan
✓ent and sot there to defend himself, alone induced his to
trespass very briefly on its attention, and whew he should
have concluded he was sure the house would tee how wholly
at variance with the facts of the cue were the statement,
which had bra made. Allesion had hoes made to a tenant
of Lord,Fitahaediever the same of Mena, who had been
demised by hie lordship, not on account of any po-
litical opiates, but because first he reru.ed to
live in Lord Firturlinere's house. and had been
told he abound leave the form unless he did go,
sad moony, terra he had been convicted before
a ragierre of lopping timber. Boothe? socatratioa
spirt Lord Fitetardinge was, that he had eserced
his marry wish a view to their not remaining in the troop
et yerionaary. He had a letter in his p lake from the bent.
M that troop who wee a pok int oppoaent of Lord Fr s-
haring*, tad to which r contredictien his hoe. relative in
the meet decided weer, be had hoped he would have beim
spared the pain of names. That gentlemen, whose name
wee My, waited on the lord-Beat of the county, and asked
ha sires as to what they should do, being anxious to re-
lire the minds of the tenants on the subject; sad
the Lord-Lieutenant said he should be extremely awry tbat
a eagle sea should quit the rape of yeomanry relit the
Dills of Berton had taken poet pains to get up, because
he had had a quarrel with hie brother. Hie hoe. relative
stated that Lord Fitzhardisp would turn from hie estate
any MAD who should vote for the ballot Now, in the first
speech that Lord Finherdinge made, after the passing of
the Reform Bill, at a pub' ic dinner, he odd that the treated
ttahe ever derived from the votes of his brother as
minthat wk.ch he pve in frau of the billet. He
regretted extresely that ha shoold be dragged forward to
Galt in Brace of Lord Vitshatdinee, and had only to hope
that the home would reuse him for limns done eo. (Hear,
War, sad eras of " Divide.")
Hr. W. P. FOX seemly expected the house would
have been disposed to demise el summarily and almost with
ratempt, • warm which hid already been sancoioned by
a deliberate mortice of the house. He should support the
motion, bat not without regret. He regretted that a pro-
of this kind for an organic change should be
Cltioliagsht forward separately, believing as he did that the
mode of mars the repro sesta:ion et the people a reality
instead of a SIMI must be by a judici ius combinatioa of
goesearee—(hear, hear) and that to carry the ballot while
there wire is many censtituncies with so few voters would
only be to sit-age retail for wholesale sorniptioci_. (Hese.)
They were dearly told ty the author of Ur Helena Bill
that se otionitaary was to sonata less then 300 voter.
insidessato the disparity that exited between the clam that
Bow and polities! deduction end the dam that had are,
Wed slave cam, he was dicidedly of opinioa that the
Met to be useful should be connected with a largo extension
lift serge. Hie second reluctance to the ballot by It,, it
was, that it was %oft for the country at present. (Loud
rise of "Her,' from the opposition benches.) It we
rid that the ballot would be a shelter As feletheod. Erb
goer set to he the cue, and the fart rested with those whs
made merry a erre. The some &ornery paid he
wets ha that house oh re matter of dramotratioe. In cob
gnat majority of cases the candidate himself knew little el
the natter; but though unconscious as to the par-
ticular corrupri AL he could not be unconscious of the
general management which took place, and of the
mum is which the funds lodged at the Makers'
in sash rasa were to be dinner of. Of this he
sawn be aware, and he ought to make himself aware
of the orchinery by which this we brought to bear
on the rarer of the electors. Could hoe. menthen realise
to thersolves that whirr went to serve the purpose of a wry
laudable ambitious, they In ul t shrink with some dense of
hesitation, He, himself, know a young ran aatdwith
membee of that house, of premising talent, of pure pia-
ciple, of a still in which rendered it bera.ing that he theald
empire to a seat in the legislature, who au induced to read
eme entered abeetioe; end the soars he then entered of
meeispller, of tri boating down of conscientious feeling in
noes mitre, and of the tempering with their principles, I
were such that ha grid not overe ate the moral dirgao they
ore it ioned,and he determined to abandon all prospect of public
life as long a his existienre ere Wired. He bad had
opportunities of watching the progress of corruption, or
seeine the sir by which in a °outlawry of between 1,000
and 2,000, at first pure or nearly so, votes were afterwards
notoriously bright and sold. The people were not corrupt
if they 1/11111 sot led auto temptation. (Hear.) He know
that by ha own experience. The borough he had the honour
terreasent au • place with only an industrial aristo-rey ;
it had 60,000 inhabiters; the franchise had been referred
upon it by the Reform Bill ; and from that diy to this he
believed no rause hart ben cert.ialy none had
ever been prove I,01& bribe being offered and accepted. (Rear,
hear.) la his own are he had n spent one shilling
had never esked for a vote, and was not known to an indivi-
dual in the place by personal aequaistance beg re he
received their requisitior. (Hear, heir.) Without the
knot, whatever that hour right reprint, it would
not represent the people. One great benefit of such a
mode of voting would be that the candidate world feel the
struggle to be, not one of triunes or party, but of opiates,
and would therefore apply himself to act upon opinion le
stead of going about widt a train of th es who had influence
over the parties visited, he wnl I endeavour to reach the
petioles of the voters, to act upon their minds, to give them
knowledge If they were in ignor nee, to dissipate their pre-
judices, and raise the fabric of ica own political reputation
on the firm basis of their iotelliaent support. In this way
nations well' become a school of moral and mental in-
fluence, Joined of being a cooties' .us source of corruption
and depravity. (Hear, hear) For the sake of the eon
treaty ditto how*, which had &leery pared that resole-
, tion —foe the sake of the airily thousands who could not freely
exercise their rights of citisenthip —for the sake of the parties
who intisidati ci and domino. red over them—and tug the
sake of generelng a beton feeling anianget these dram he
should give hie hearty support to the metro. (Usu.)

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Sir R. VERNEY said the mask erement ripest the bat
lot was, that the franchise was a peek rust sad dat
and ought to be publicly performed. Were the voting
that house secret, his. graben would lee the opeadeace
either cosstituents. He rested his oppoatioa to the messes
as this tingle round.
Mr. 11, BERKELEY said a few weeds in reply, and the
hoes* then divided.
Pee the weir
Against it
COLONIAL POLICY.
11011 BUCK said be rem to mu for leave to Meg
in a WI for the better gerremeat of gestate of oar colonial
Ipmendons. After disclaiming any wish to attack indi-
=te said he had eadearved not to take
11 by ellerks, • having explained as clearly
• be ease in .print the 'Mire he held
es Ale toettek_ead the principle he wished to see em-
bodied is a bill. leigheed bad been a renislag nation
@Mee 1606, sad dreg ell that time had acted without
any rule er prineple. He believed, if something were
net dm very trickly, we should lose the mastery of or
pores of our serial dossiers, sad should use it paw
rase abs sway of that enerechiag ',pebble which had
erre hem ennedves, sad which was rapidl extending
its Boca the Mitres of Prams to the North Pule.
(Row, beer.) This wee so idle kw, er alight corers • an-
less it were erre le, this country ore see itself ;here
of En der glom. and its strength stuttered in the eyes of
the world. If this happssed, at would be brines they bed
disregarded Mager when it was near, had aught esse rather
tiles gm, had gives up the national interests to
them who was insepaide of asoertaintng or undentand
lag the danger, or hod pat faith in a government
who knew net whet M do. He esespied as an
triers& rides abs. the mitres were a Metal to Bag-
lead, sad Me et** mho setweee ef bar prosperity and
trrir(Hear. beer.) By a roar empi re, he meant,
pmeries of barren weer, or ea eras of empire
on
whish the or never se, but Item end seecessfel 00111-
amid.% who were malingly and lovingly under the dand-
er et the mere orostry. who moldered themselves
hearer by the searnies .and while rendering us berate,
seised the hemp el thee hers, sod as. *thriving es %futile,
or Ire reams Re mar am re of so
asseitisedisrapizem, is by Begifshmon, sew eet tim mem, h wa-
ke/imps, mirages of Meer. ewer the
=id the vast emphesaw iiie pmememsd, and Utterly
astir mray. as the ether her we had te min-
ed"' • leggedoloodisorso, to gm* the peers leery la spite
of their ram thee mu serial drier was a cures sad
ast a blaming- a elm oe those over whom we wrier
sway, sad to eerier who had the exposes of that dominion
When complolets wee mode of the great expense of oar
aaey, army end ordnance, the goverment said it was is*
risible to diminish it, or how coed ear vast eerie ems-
Fire be amentaised ? It ought to he mintaised by stak-
es the people willing 'stints, by the aid of the rem
themeless sr set el the away. Sometimes our colonial
eisaisieratiss Me been emodected with neglect, and that
lad been he bust pros at other times, with mistitierese
cuddling; end wham thi; s ked readied a point which the
eskers ogee no huger stead, titre we had unwisely
ember them, and seen ourselves digressed and defeated,
or we heron costreed to yield in a way almost as dis-
eased to Mast. Mr was a tar piston of cur colonial
arlelen hem his esenshenessment to the resent time. It
sommensed with Virginia, be 1606, when a charter was
=es certain adventure's to estatilhh that colony, end
Mar down to within a few maths past, when char-
ters had boss granted to a large coepany who mow do-
, mimere err the greater part of North Awls., sad to
ohm tereseiesVauteres Island had her recently added.
There was me wham, me humanity is trying to relieve the
esteem of the sesery by shipping off burred& of thousands
lei wesered ems intle distant wilds, sad so getting rid of
I them. Oat of sight, mat of mind : satisfactory enough to
ease, bet that woe not what the English statesman should
denim His oaks was to establish each prudent and wise
reseeding as should tempt men who did not find happiness
at hem within their control willingly and 'elan.
sexily to dirge their efforts to another hemisphere.
He weed supper the roe of men going to Australia.
Some twenty-roar years ago, on the let of Jane, 1824, an
set of parliament pawed, in the reign of George IV., con-
ferring a million of acres on a company who were styled
"Toe Australian Agricultural Company." Numbers of
persons were desirous of transporting themselves to these
million wires. He wosid stymie the verge and everything
of that sort most favourable. He used mire them to
have landed in an admirable harbour and in a good climate,
and then asking " When are we ? " No provision bad
been made for those persons in any portion of their domi-
nion—there was no predetermined survey by which they
could guide themselves in going to any specific place—there
was no law to guide, no magistrates to receive, no govern-
ment to control them. Pint of all, was that martial true?—
and, if true, was it not a most extraordiaary sad lamentable
fact that throughout the vast extent of their colonial empire
thaw were no rules or regulations by which the people el
ibis country could know under what emeastances they wars
to be expatriated? How differently did the United States
of America act. Did they leave that territory which they
lately sogaired—the territory of Oregon, without any law ?
No, the perms who went liters knew where to go to—they
still retained the °hurter of American cheer, and not
only the character of citizens, but their industry, shrewder,
and activity ; and not many yeses would elapse before that
territory formed two other states of that gigantic coefedersey
which they ought all to tremble at. This was the
way in which the United States acted whilst
we left Vancouver's Island aa idle 1114.011 waste. But two
days ago he received a letter from mom of his c nsstitnenrs at
Sheffield who were about to estivate. Hs begged to call
the attention of the house to it. They say,' Ws, a portion
of your constituents, are about to leave this country"—for
Canada, for New Zealand, for Australia ?—no, but " for
Tex u, and the purport of this letter is, that you would cont.
minket* with Bancroft, the Americas minister, and beg of
biro to re his influence with the Portliest to grant
us 4,000 acres of land." They then went on to state
what they desired. He should like to knee why they were
not going to oce of the wheel of England ? Was it not for
this reason—that if tney went to one of their own colonies
they would be 'edited to a state of degradation, to a state of
uncertainty, and because there was no rule by which they
mid in any way hope to shadow forth a di tint sad accu-
rate fears ? If they west to their own colonies they wont to
ma rare coaditius ; they lost that position which every
ioglidiesan enjoyed at home, no matter what his social state.
(Her, hear.) He was not speaking fantastically or out of
ii. own imagioatien. The natural gaud= which 'my
✓em wishing to emigrate with his family first put to him-
self was, "When ea I going to ? what are the laws there i"
No uncertainty would exist in this matter if any rules were
bid dom. Whim he was speaking of colonies in this sense, he
thought it right to tell the bout. that to apply one rule of
legislation to allot them would be irjudiciout He did not in-
clude Malta cr the teem Islands in the number of
their colonies in kis ease of the word colony. His
✓outresides, resides, had reference merely I. America,
Rosh Miss, Areal* and New Zealand. There
a had as aboriginal population--a bold and ener-
rele—with whom they must deal. He would deal with
would deal with Ike white, and would
have =llBlllei la he k
equal Ia the sr of the law. (Rm.) If
they win where, ware descried to be, he did not think
wield arise from the fact of their being natives.
7dlf=te the colonies he had mentioned, he meld
have weeper of law for sottling—another seem when the
Mks, woe Wile: and lastly, • erten of sonfederation
or melon. These were the three elements which he
would make common to all thee ironies. Did any peed*
ell, now to them? (" Hear, bear," from Mr. Hawes.)
He proposed, therefore, that they shoed legislate on the
subject u the United States had de m. When they achieved
their independence as antics the waste lands became en
object of attention and care to the ale men who reed that
country. They did not dabble sad meddle in everything,
without doing anything, by rule. On the contrary, they
pore comprehensive laws for thmegulatita of the vast
emelleries belonging to them. They weed a law provid-
es he the gradual fonnatios of lands not settled into
ememenities, till okay took their position as states, and
became sovereign and independent members of the
mks. He proposed that Way shoed follow the same
erne respect's, the wild lands belonging to England.
Oceopyint &position superior to that of any ether nation es
repeed the mesas of extend* our name, we had never
owe thooght k worth oar while to woke saything like a re-
gular law he Abet She ohjeet. Is abs year 1767 the United
Seim sea Me whale of the adrieleg territory tabled to
the mesa enemas law and biles down a rale es to the
amber ef bream weirdo, deteessimed that when that
number had bees noshed tht ishobiloate shoold shore
Weir own petwootest. The _whale thing hod reseeded
like a well-made wet*, and it hod sever 'sated wisdisi-op
does. (Bear. boar.) The raealt wee, that Ave
marifisent sewseign states had bees served out
slnes the year 1787, exactly sacs the river St. Lawrence.
All this we had seen going on. We had Upper and Lower
Canada, comprising • territory get* as large, gaits as feu
•ile, blessed with a climate which, Marrs rigorous, was also
more healthy ; and while the AOLOTiOIIOI had filled the five
states with a thriving and happy population, Ohio pommel-
ing at this moment 1,500,000 inhabitante, we bad hardly
ten. beyond the ordinary progressive increase of mankind
amid the turmoil, the dit:ontent, the wretchedeess, and now
almost rebellion, in that unhappy eolony, which was not
blessed but coned by our sway. (Hear, hear.) Why was
he now mat on the threshold by his boo. friend, the Under-
Secretary of State, with the statement—" The colonists do
rot approve of your pelaelple ?" Lot that pro-
vince be pointed out whelk would say " nay" to
his roue ion. (Hear, hear.) What was that
propeeltioa ? That when hem erg had been given to
Upper sad Lower Canada, sad the conterminous portions of
lead, and when • certain amber of inhabitants existed, the
I or mote shoed immediately peer certain privileges.
What privileges? Fir, that of representation—self-
government. What portion of their North American pro-
, sinews would object to that ? Metropolitan government was
a necessary incident of his proposal ; and that could only be
secured by providing that the governor should be appointed
by the crown. Ile hon. friend would may that he did not
object to the principle. but the colonists would. The princi-
ple which he (Mr. sebuek) wished first of all to esta-
blish was that of free trade between the colony and
the mather-country : tree trade, not in name only,
but is reality. Self goverment and free trade were two
of the princyles on which he would settle a colony.
Supped. g a new settlement were proposed to he wide
b fond the boundary of Upper and Lower Canada, with a
governor and • new assembly in the manner that be eng
.seed, would toe government object to such a nr peal?
His hon. Mend could not say that the coloaists of New
lend would would object to smam:
aerreaset
Augrairoeat ta
daireln Nei;
Zealand, and free various
e'l.
ser-g 'serenest had been apremed ; and no one ever beard
punt of the rise mein from
) and the noble lord at the head
of the government