The Express.
London, England, 1851-05-23 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSZDF LORDS.--Tntrastny. May 22.
YM Loan PETITIONS PtateookßESENTED.his seat at live o'clock.
Perim Aoolll4loll.—lly the Duke of ARGYLL, front
umeeel Oases in Scotland ; and Earl FORTESCUE, from
several pima Is Devon, against papal aggression.
Curt eta Ts:treas.—By Earl FORTESCUE, from
ogradril=speaying for a measure for the compulsory
Fiat of oopyholds.
PROPERTY TAX BILL.
This bill was read a third time and eared.
EPISCOPAL CAPITULAR ESTATES BILL.
The Earl of CARLISLE moved the second reading of
this bill. He had found the subject a very difficult one,
and from its nature it was almost sure to displease many
parties whom it affected ; but it was wholly unconnected
with party differences and the government had brought
It forward with the sole view of removing existing
Inconveniences and supplying existing wants. The
management of church property had long been
eery unsatisfactory, and had acted injuriously to
all parties concerned—to the church because it proved of
Mrs value than it might if properly managed, and to the
lessees because of the uncertainty of the tenure under
which they held their leases. It had also been disadvan-
tageous to the public at large as it had had a tendency to
prevent improvement. The recent commission which had
been appointed to inquire into the subject, said that the
church realised only from oue-third to one-fourth of the
reek rent, and that by better management the re-
venue might be increased, and the tenure made more
satisfactory to the lessees. The commissioners objected to
the present system of fines, and from the promulgation of
their report it was necessarily thought that an alteration
and improvement would take place, and the arrangements
kr bargains in this species of property had consequently
been kept hanging in suspense. The government appointed
• commission in 1839 to inquire into the present system of
Maim the property belonging to the church. In 1840 the
sommisisionen presented two report., and the government
led determined on embodying the recommendations of
dem reports in the bill now beton: the house. The tenure
et proptrt7 held in lease of the church, in which there had
lam hut little change since the days of Elisabeth, was ge-
awally on leases for two lives renewable on the dropping
Of ass life, or on terms of years. The rents reserved had
bees ahead nominal, and the fines taken each re-
use:al constituted the main property of the Church.
I. tern for lives it had been customary to assess the fines
St • calculation of five per mut, and on leases for terms
gnat, eight, or even nine per mat. The value of freehold
property WAS generally taken at about thirty pars' pac-
ifism, ant there was ample opportunity for increasing the
yam of the church prowrty, which had been calculated
Wenn° at 9b, 16, and 11 years' purchase. There had
lass amatory views ce this subject, and it was thought by
Mow that the lenses wen ..titled to a perpetual renewal
ea the seine es which they hod hitherto held. There had
bon ea greet a essideese he the minds of the lessees of m-
ama es the seen mime that the property was often made
the williset d esseliage and devise by will. The fines
nage the issemes of the emlesiastical dignities;

Ihey meld am Mimi to wait, and there was no
dais of maw who ought little to be expaird
ea Weiwitaidaagi income ; therefore, without the aid of par-
ilaweat it was impurilde to increase the income of the
temeh, mad at the name time take away the temputiom
whMh the midseimtieal digaitic• had at present to great
minewala. The immunimimen had recommended a corn.

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en betwe the two parties, the lessors and lessees.
Maberecommasedwd to give to the lessees • perpetual right
et renewal. This was a large easeweaion ; but the income
el the church was also to be inercread thereby. He would
wapiaiu, as elearly as be could, die peormious of the bill,
tad Itie would dud brat with leans Sur lives. ibis was al-

ways thought to be the soon objectionable form—it involved
• irmit•r disturbance of the auntie. ammgements, and fre-
garde, impend ea the haw the Remade of paying
M the isaierease of it life ea his less. It was,

liorefure, proposed to sower all leases for live;
into le►ses fug an equivalent Pros of years. There
onto special eases is which there might be an an-
bialthy life, or In which the ►essee might have in.
ellitli the life of his wife, or where he might have Meares'
• life. la are► caw it would nut be desirable to substi-

bate terms Wrenn, and therefore power would be slyest to
the eonssaiwissers to give ► term of years for the third life,
which now wadi he added to the two misting lives. Now,
ne to terms far Team—he would take the case of a farm
let for POI. a year and fora term of 21 years, renewable
every seven years. A tine would be paid, by the present
system, for each renewal, and it had bees ascertained that
such tine amounted to about a year and a halts purchase,
which on such an estate would be 1401 It had been aver.

twined that the septennial payment of a fine of 1.101. was
equivalent to a rent of 241. a year to commence at mice;
and if no fine was imposed at all fur 40 years the lessor
would then be entitled to the whole income of 1001. a year.
The payment of 100/. a year, beginning 40 years hruce,woiald
be equal to about 1131. a year. It was proposed to divide
these advantages between the lessor and lessee. The pre-
sent rent of the lessor being 2:1la a year, and his extreme
right 641. a year, the commissioners proposed to divide the
advantage ia this way—that henceforth a kideunial fine
should be paid to the church, calculated at the same rate of
interest iu at present, but only upon one moiety, and at the
sad of the now existing term a fine should be paid equal
to the other half of the item of value. As to one-half of

theennual tine vele. the eltareheshould fin the lease,

and as to the other esoiety the church should renew the
louse upon a fine eakelated at t►e same rate of interest es
at present. instead of paying now a tine fur renewal of
160(., the lessee would have to pay 761. as a tine upon °ne-
tball of thu value of the property, and for the other halt he
would h are to pay his reserved rent. tither arrangements
were propmed, hut the object of the whole transaction WAS
that the lessor, out of the whole annual value of the

property would Media what wee amivalent to 441. • year ;
that we. the iligheenee between die SAL which was equiva-
lest to his poem* sessipte and the 62L which was equiva-
lent to his entente rights The church would gain one-half
of it. claimer elable, and the loner would come into pee-
smith of aneshalfief his extreme claims. It was proposed
to employ the agency of the present church estate commis-
sioners to ascertain the precise rates of tine, or the propor-
tion of the fine to the value of the property, in each parti-
cular district. It appeared front the evidence taken before •
the dal: rent commissions that there were districts, tvPe-
cially in the north of England, where, either from
some notion of an old right or from an inva-
riable usage, the knees had been led to rely so
confidently on the coutinuthee of the present terms
of reuewal, that the revolt arrived at had been that
21 yearn' lease was of as much value as an estate iu foe ;
and it would be fur those commissioners to define the dis-
tricts w bore, in consequence of this usage, the lease would
only be suffered to run out upon a third, instead of one
moiety, of the annual value of the whole. The property in
house. did not stand on the some footing as in lands and
farms; but it wa% intended to bring it as nearly as possible
to the same remelt. It is proposed, in house property to
give the right of perpetual renewal, upon the prevent tine,
but to impose on the lessee at additional rent equal to half
of
the new right he would have acquired, thus dividing all
Op advantages to accrue under this bill, in equal peeper-
bens between the tenor and the lessee. The property in
mum was intended to follow the same courses property in
hew& As to tithe-rant charges, it was proposed to let them
nu
set. The mennfisoloners were of opinion that this pro-
= stied so • dillusest footing ; it had not, fur instance,
the capital of the lessee in past
tire, otwithveroadid mot Grist the plea of the lands being in-
bendsed with the ether freehold of the lessee, which often
abeed with aura bads; and he (the Earl of Carlisle)
man Jac say that duns was no emaciation or attachment
ne semen parsers wide tithe rimesehartres. As to manorial
MOM it was pimps* mhos they were connected with
Wok whoa they wall tam dm rale which applied to
bed. Abet to let the losses no oak or to have them put
z e gale. Amager embelestied appanage he must
to It wee in all OWN to reserve to the
lam a provides. view to provide for the enfmn-
ehieement of seepplethiles end mg meaty mine* would he
mated in the OW* blab osaminiesers—best to satisfy
the purpose slime sal, and seat to ha applied to the com-
mon had be obilebbleol sem. Timber was • species of
property whit h alai mat hem the existing arrange-
ments; it very shun imppraol that neither the lessor or
Isom bed • right to seg, rod the timber on thew church
11111111.18 was found se be is • very bad and wasteful con-
Mies therefore it WM proposed on the payment of the
=mine, that the timber should be reserved to the
Its ordinary valuations would be taken at the end
of every twisty-ow years, sad not at the end of envy
ones yens, as at preesat. The result of all these 'hew
Om would be a great increase of church property, awl
sago would be given for church purposes, without risking
or venturing any of their money, and it could not be pre-
tended that say alienation of church property was involved
In the bill. The bill comprised other provisions for the
managcmeet agnates in the hands of buboes and deans
and chapters, for the purpose of carrying out the views of
the legislates to give tired, instead of fluctuating, incomes
to those digalittee. Uut that object had not been fully
realised; some of the bishops had received more than
was intended, sod others km With • view to put
as end to these &Mashies, it we. proposed. without
including those bishops who were appointed before
there was soy regular understanding un this subject,
but with eeepeet to all bishops subsequently appended it
was proposed, foe the time, to MI the striesement of their
estate* in the same church essamhaismrs, the bishops ze-
(eking the t 0.... adored to them by low till an endow-
ment of lend ophelest to the Wane so fixed could be
saint es theb. It was not propsord to take the ma-
oesseent et be 'ebbs of the dram awl chapters out of the
barb althea bogies ; but any mph. which might arise
es their atom would be transferred le the common fund.
Tema was be gives to the eamnissimuns to borrow
missy es &Wilms What be bed midi applied more
to the comfort and erpity of th e bishops.lWlaslY pret to the whole smarm be bed only to state
ant >r *Amino& it with a view et he reiceiviuir full and
hi emalleendan by • egret ammittee. It was nut for
bit Se Glee owedeise to the slobs pre. prelate-% as to the
isms may Willi think proper le puma, But if. as it
ammod bles Impandlis te obey soy measure throuh
se sour arret ammirited., or
Listralesislibild. be ambles thou to Too est
the Imo esi to mist bile the tall peresebb ef
Stir estalse..ll4 es be tboght. there wie- mesh to
blob wheels/ sodi seesbee bold , eves
tate be serried, whether it was It that bishops
=Pelagsbarriiiml dispitaries should be put to the pontiou of
besibolk adrift racknots intim to all the deductions
obi tedmilleme NM. est of bet state el ddage--if a large •
bomb of IMMO bob be ebbed from the beliatee—he
bail set teatime% TIM wig precise amount, but pumas
tube men capable of Was an opinion estimated it
• bulb tad eves treble its present amount—if such