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GENERAL KLAI'KA AND LORD LYNDHURST

TO TILE EUITOIL Of' THE DAILY xinn.

SIR,—In Lord Lyndhurst'ii speech, delivered in
the House of Lords on the 27th of March, there
, is a passage running as llows :
But this is not all. I hav foe
case still more striking to
bring under the consideration and attention of government.
There is another central committee in this city—where the,
branches meet I know not—who style themselves the Cen-
tral Committee of Hungarian Refugees. One of the kad-
' ing numbers of this committee: is General Klapka, an of-
, firer who served in the insurrectionary war in Hungary,
! and who commanded the fortress of Comma at the clove of
thut war. Your lordships are aware that a large body of
Hungarians were driven from Austria into Italy, and were
incorporated into the Austrian army in Lombardy. Avail-
ing themselves of this object, this committee have lately
I issued a proclamation, addressed to those Hungarians, and
couched in language of a most inflammatory character, and
• containing topics alio of a most inflammatory and exciting
. description, culling upon them to e1....7d their motto, point-
ing out to them how they could do this :uo..t effettually
sad mird destructively to Austria, inAructiog them how to
act in the event of a war, what bigualio would be made, sad
what co-operation they would receive. This proclamation
is signed by the individual to whom I have referred, Gene-
ral Klapka ; and a now flagrant violation of the pretectioa
afforded to a refugee I cannot conceive.
Although I formerly disdained refuting certain
misrepresentations made by M. von Manteuffel in
one of the Prussian chambers, who was pleased to
transpose me to Schleswig-I holstein, yet I feel obliged
emphatically to contradict any untruth uttered in
either of the houses of the British parliament. A...
oordingly, I declare-
1. For more than a twelvemonth I have not been
living in London, nor am I either one of the leaden,
or even a member, of any of the committees men-
tioned by Lord Lyndhurst.
2. I never addressed a proclamation to the Hun-
garian soldieru in Italy calling upon them to desert
their ranks. Nobody who knows my character will
think me capable of an advice calculated, under the
present circumstances, to sacrifice and deliver
those unfortunates to ruin and still greater
misery. I declare any proclamation of the kind,
if there be any, as altogether false, or trumped
up, perhaps, by the agents of the Austrian po-
lice. Lord Lyndhurst s remarks, therefore, rest
upon mere fictions, and it is only a wonder that the
noble lord should have forgotten his mission and
high situation, which ought to have preserved him
from becoming a tool for the intrigues of the Aus-
trian police. I leave to the English people to appre-
ciateago laid the
his lordship's disavowal of their own history
anfoudndpartiinocnilolF
much for the refutation of unprovoked calumny II
So fur from being overawed by such and similar pro-
ceedings, and the despicable snares of the Russo..
Austrian police, I shall never cease doing what I
hold suitable to the interest and deliverance of my
oppressed and unhappy fatherland, as far as I can
do so without violating the laws of that country
where I met with an hospitable reception.
I have the honour to be, sir,
Your obedient servant, •-• '
Paris, April, 4, 1831. • OgefittrlCLAPlA:

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. '
HOUSE OF LOiri-)S.—tCEstIAY, Ann. 8.
The Lotto CZAPICILI.I.OII took his seat at Iva o'clock.
CLAM BY THE EAST INDIA cOupAsy ON
THE GOVERNMENT.
Lord MONTEAGLE wished to put the following ques-
tion to the noblo lord the l're.i.lentot the Baud of Control,
namely, whether there would he any 'obj. ction to produce
any correpondenc, which might hare taken place between
the Treasury and the Board of Control, or any other de-
partment of tl.e. gust rnmvnt, and the L 44 India Company,
on the subject of a eSaim for the payment of 400,0nw.
all, 4,11 to be due on account of exptis.--s of the late Chinese

wart
Lord BROUGIITON hogged, in answer to the question,
to say, that it wo• quite true that the 1..4 b•osipany
had inane a demand to the amount stated; and it was also
true that a eurresoondence had mkt •, :Ate littn'een some
departments of the government and the East India Com-
ploy. 114 thought it was better for km reit to make any
further remark- on the subject at peeant, and he belated
to say that he had no objection to lay tee papers on the
table of the house.
111:TIN Y BILL AND mAniNr. MI:TINY BILL.
On the motion of the Mite of 141`ohl.loutuo, them bills
went through committee.
11.:017NTY r3)l' It VS (11 I 11k TIiNSID_ IN) BILL.
On the quiotion tit the re-conunitment. of this big,
Lord 111‘0111:11AM suit, that before the bongo went
Info committee, be wished to call attention to two important
eonliderations coonected with tit'. bill, namely, w)ictlier it
would he nee: golury to inms late the number of the
county court jueLpo, mail if s „ •,,i what fonds I
would the coteries of Vow: judges he apportioned. He
found from sift et: 0 tor... that the ay..roge numher of days
during which the a nutty court jneloto had sat for the last
two years was not loon than six moo.h. in therar, namely,
157 days, and he tumid o'.• • that only id of these judge. had
releeeded tnat aver ..0.. Now, it was obvious that if those
learned p .rionsio .4 it more days in th • year thi y would Ise
able to t7ansaet a greater amount of busitese.
b. •ir.) 11, did wit apprehend that it would be necessary to
inert the number ol.judges except. perhaps, in nom of
th- nietnowelitan distieets. It was people"! that thew
jailors should he compeogi•ed in a is a...motile manner for
the iner amount of Imolai:so which would deirolvenpon
them, mud a fund for that pure 0.., was alreody
supplied, for the system, ha was happy to say, sup-
ported itself, awl gave a emosideroble surplus, namely,
34,0001. per anniim, whirl, was paid into the tn..-
miry. Ile must again, as he hail often h fine, elepre-
tato an unwise eystem of I ennqiny, the oily emit of
whirl must ho, to cripple the administration of jean"'.
Ile need not refer to a more strikiire iredorire than tie
which was exhibited in the void over vet hie nobly
owl loomed friend on th • wools-irk ereobled, where the
gveatoot iojory was ,hue: In the ,•:; no in cooseqwence
wf tho lawisqu ki,jl.l4lVi tt staff ergot*. court. (War.)
The hewn then went isito the bbiill, the cm.
efileratio of the int 11 clan's of which was, by enoiseot,
pigpmeol.
Th. LORI,/ CIIANCELI.OR said that lie lad been re-
priomool sort friendly to the ems,• of law reform.
Lord 111‘0111ii lASI —I del not •ay w.
The 1•011111 C 11.% NCY,LLOR (bawd mean to soy that his
nolde and learnisl friend hail mid ha' he • yard anions
him that he nimbi 6111 him (tin. Lord I 'hour Doe) a will-
ing coadjutor in all those attempts to reform Us, law whieh
his noble and learned t• nil so often, nod so much for the
benefit at the emiutry, la id mode. 'I I•••r• were two sets of
Glasses in this 1,1,1, to which hr wile to r-ill the att• ntion
wf the house -those elatioo rid) rrioo matter, of aecount
and edit, r matters of inquiry to the •ill'oere of the Comity
Court.. They alien heard of the thousauels of mots which
Wen• dopy. d of in the t 'minty Como.; but, is poilit of
fort, ye oat ear lOW were rii•posiril .4 in Li few
When, however, the hu•isiess of tl • County l'ourt juihtes
rebook il to Want •f• n,bra.- og locus=t. and mote enupli-
antsd ow Aiwa, where midonnity in the law was desirable,
it heetnie of into nie imisotanes• ter bee that the tribunal
was a competent out% It was proposed that partiesl
should have di • power of referrioo etcheili questjous and
certain arriainta—
Lord ItitirtligUlAW.—Only if dot court should send
them.
101(1) CIIANCELLOR duties which ori-
ginally derisive(' twat the t7ounty Court judges were of
n lin, ad thermic', and their s•rary was Hull at 1,1000/.
year, a posit that the gentlinsi u w, re lint ter"
weU quiddird for the duties of their prof.-.ion,
or th. y would not have lass content to retire upon
Lowe a year ; and duties were non tonight to he impisooll
up., them which envin il all lite• learnitor, experience. and
intent,: 'es' of masters iu Cbanrery. Ilr did not mien to
• tat all titain the judges of til.• eealiity total*, but it
niust Is• r meinbensl that some •,f them had previously
N.,•• jo.la.s of little lord onerts. AU the sixty comity
coot oi I would hate the duties of the Court of Chan-
cery id upon them without any pea sious ••sperience,
root dutiev err of el very complicated charestrr.
DLab • if :ter.klnt were referred to the ina.ters i,t ( •neery,
and u. Osier Vie Lord Chancellor nor the Vies.-Cliane• Hoot
knew hat tits diameter of the accounts alight ; hut by
this lib it war proposol that the Lord thanes Bur or Aos
Ch Inc.•lbir should refer time matters to the jute-s of
county • ...rt. O.' they thought it would be ell• -'rabic tea to so,
thus tends bag lb • rot" oity of a presiou • iuquirs by the
Linn Chum nor or Viceselmoesllor, which toted moo -.trill
entail gnat Uvulae and topen•e. L. que.tions of title arol
tole r matter, which caw liefore the misters, the
Looloil no, aka Wen• peculiarly acquainted with
the omn,. ; and *martini. • it was thought ne-
ecosiry for cot Oriel tin att• ; hot if thioe in-
quiry, took place in the onesitr parties 100 -t • de-
er red iif suro eNiiiient aid. link etc r pluk.iltle it niioht
01.0.11". it %Mail bl• 111104 .31111. to WWI down to
rOlllll7 coortg lodge •• on them to einli rk is
.:ter.. 0 „meting whi.il till hail hail to• experi, lle
was th rel.m oppiosl to the first braneli ••1 these 1.1.1t111011.
The arenial activa of elan" use. lone %Well might p .rrap.
▪ clip'. .1 wills afl.allt"lg, Thew dailies related to
the tahiug art:ideate riry rare in the County Courts. Ile
admitted the re were cam:tin:nom, whivb m, tht m•ot erne.,
/tient!, :a. taken in the rimier). hill, bowel, r, those
clause, were not free from objeetion, au I wh••n he yonsi-
den..l l'i•• foefiiticii of railway rommunnation which %ere
now-rears ••njoyed, they %ere the les. necessary than when
the espeno. and 414 in tratellisra wore much greater.
It might b, desirable, that, instead 1.1 the prrietit Moth; of
examining witne., in the country, MOM, ether mush:should
be taken -.that the county nein judge, should hill.. the
power of takimt their examinations rine rote. Ile wag,
however, afraid that if isounsel were to attend these
Cons the expetioo, in place of being diminished, would in-
t:wawa. De thought goo...douse. were framed into. atomics•
of that full ronsolimition which wars en inser+eary in matters
of this description. Ile would be told by his noble and
learned friend (laird Brougham) that this woe a great
blunder-that it was all a mistake. Ile would alx, In. tilt
that these clauses hot been approsed of by peroms hioti in
autliorit) ; but ..new ithstan,fing, after haring fidly consi-
den 3 th.- ',dicta, he was of the epiniou that th•• nest al loses
aliould I. • maithsl. Th•• 4,4,111t1 he would not "woe.
Lord ItUlNllill.lbl said his noble and hen-nett friend
(the Lord lit turillar) had till then, what he (taiga
Itroughani) was. likely to sa). P.11111..s they would allow
him (fiord (troughana) to state wli it he rselly meant to
nay. (Ismighter.) The noble lord (the Lunt llama ger)
had entirely mistaken the hill, for the provision 4 objeet• A
to had termed A portion of a prrsitOSS measure.
The molde lord then read a elan, from a former art
to show that rirn nice csaminations were directed to he
take,, in the country under the KIM' circumstances a. 51.1,1
the case in the present bill. Ily that act it appeared that
examinations were token and C.l4s r, freed into the reran.
try which had not been previotedy inquired into in London
at all. Iles (lord Hrongh en's) noble friend had erns-
mseisly suppoool that hy the prownt measure the i'att.*
teen-ferred to the county ion:rtis would he those into which
inquiry had heel, pn.viously 'node. Now this was not the
!Me. Ile (Lord Brougham) did not /tee why an) eac.rption
could be taken to the examinotion of witnemes in 11w county
snorts. Many of these witness.," were examined as to mere
matters of tact on which no pt. it difficulty could arise, and
the duties connected therewith the county court judges
weft. quite as well qualified to dinharge ns wcce the Mas-
ten, in 10,,,07, ,e,ble friend (the Lord Chancellor)
bad argaiol that because these judge% received a gal try of
I,ool'. .1 y.ne, they could not lw vispeetell tit he comr.itent
to the discharge of the italics impoiiril on them by this
bill. Now they must recollect that parliament had voted
these judges land:. aear, and they had cut them down
to 1,000,/,, and when they hail done so, wore they t• mea-
sure the value of these jioto s i.e the amount of salary
they now received ? Ile (Lord Coauohom) took it on him
to say that these county court judges were men fully ode
quote to the performance of all the duties which this bill
contemplated. If it were their determination to strike out
the..• clauses, he should decline to prow the subject any
further.
Lora CRANWORTiI said the Otiose' to which he noble
friend (the Lord Chancellor) had taken exception, were not •
out, unohjectiouable hit likely to he productive of much I
good. With all deferent,e to hi. noble and le treed
friend (the Lord Chancellor) he could not see the force of I
bid objecthms to than aloft,. The movement was one in
the right ilirectiim, and would enable them to tee how far
legielotion of this kind could be extended,
I,ordt'AMPIIF.LL supported the clauses as highly bene-
tidal. lle had thoroughly nod closely sifted the provisions
of this bill, slid was toady to say that they had his entire

ratul,, one 07 UM obscry at ia

regarding the faactions at pr. sent discharged by judges of
toasty wart, and argued that they were fully competent
to fulfil all the frictions imposed on then by this bill.
The 1.0111) C HAN CEL I,olt repeated bis objections Lathe
equity clauses, bat said he would not give the house the
trouble of dividing on the subject.
The 13th clause was then esrsed to, r also were all the
claim. up to the 21st inelu•ise.
The 22nd clause, which proposed to give power to the
Lord Chancellor to mike general orders r to the mode of
eumining wineries, waa struck out, Lord Brougham un-
dertaking to bring up on iniproicd clause on the report.
Chagas 23 to 26 were respectly to.
Os clause 27, " Barristers. whether tietcrl or not, may
appear on behalf of parties,"
Lent CAMPBELL rid that a former act forbade bar-
enters coming into court and pleading for parties, wi-
res instructed DT an attorney. Bo did nut think
that this should bo prohibited, and his own first
judgment upon coring into his present dike, and which
-- agreed with by his brother judges, tem that a
roe might ptead • canoe me circuit, and, under zertain
eiseametaneee, without the intervention of an attorney.
Bllol.lollAll mid he had objected to the clause
of 1146, r that foe the bat time int:oilseed a
Let It to left %the coneeisme and &Wreak+ of
coast, as is the ohm worts. whether. and
la whet tank batiste. 14111 Mai milbot
iiislegaty.

The LORD CHANCELLOR expressed some doubts as
to tho education and character of the race of men who
would spring up combining the capacity of attorney and
advocate. It would certainly he improper to admit in all
Case; a barrister to come int° court and plead without the
usual instructions, and he would submit th his noble and
learned friend's consideration whether it was necessary, or
whether it would add respectability
.and standing to th
court*, and tend to protect the public front incompetent
practitioners, if the clause were to etas in it, present ,
affirmative form that any banister mi4bt appear in court
on any proceedings without instructions front an attorney.
Lord CILIN WORTH suggested that perhaps the better
war of dealing with the question we. that these counts
sh,;all.l be open, like the courts in Westreinster-hall.
Lord BROL:011A31 said that he would not press his
view ohstinately—perhnle, be might nil 1 hopelessly—hut it
appeared to him that g, riflemen who associated with the
rest el the profession—dined with them in term—would not
be generally of the character appreheuhd by his noble and
learned friend, or Is n,l themselves, to the underhan I pro-
ceedings of proflie,re parties, and he believed that the view
of his twine and learned frieell would prove a little exag-
gerated. A very slight dwell would be applied by leaving
the section of the ace of 1816.
The LORD CHANCELLOR, in reference to the two
clauses 27 and 23, oherved that by th -le provisions actions
of any kind and whatever the amount involved might,
if both parties agreed, be tried in the c eenty
; they were to have power to r ;elate
ail. Such an enactment could hardly fail to create confn-
eine, and he thought it would not only be iaconvenient to
the judges hut er judicial to suitors themselvce. Ender
these circumstance, ho must propene that the clan.e and
el tut., Zes, which was dependent on it, should be omitted.
Lord 1.11:01:fellA31 said that the object of the clause in
question we, merely to remove doubts which preenikel as to
the censtruction of the optional juriedktion clause in the act
of tele, which enabled panic. to bring any kind of action
into C.suuty Courts. The elanee wen, framed in conformity
with the tent cal weee and object of the present bill, which
W••••• to throw open the neon of the County Courts as widely
as possible to ad cis, s, with the consent of the parties. By
the arrangement proposed parties would be able to obtain
lu•tiee at th, :r own doors, in-teed of being compelled to
incur expense, and delay by carrying their suits to
dietanttrihunal. lOr his part, he could see no objection to
the clauses, but Its noble mad learned friend disliked local
jurisdiction.
The I.OIID CHANCELLOR.—No, no.
Lied BROUGHAM thought that every one who heanl
his noble and harried (theca speak in opposition to the
,efety clauses must be of opinion that inieeso, noe" meant
ree pre."
the ORD CHANCELLOR explained that he did not
ohjei t to the ',eight rjuriselietien of the County Court*, but
he object. -el to est. ailing it.
l.nrd IIitOCGIIANI.-I'recisely so; and he asked his
noble awl learned friend whether, if he had leen in this
house lint year, he would not have objected to extend the
juriedietien of fhocin'y Courts to .50/. ?
The LORI/ CII.INCELLOR thought that their lordships
had already aufficieut before them to iecupy their etteetion,
and there:fent he would decline introducing a fresh one.
Lord LEAtmosT thought that the two chile. s, taken
in reline:ion with each other, went beyond the intention of
tee • naetneed of von.
Lid C.IIIPBELL said that the power mitered by the
clauee in the former net had never la-en acted upon, and its
extension, therefore appeared to Ise unealkd tor.
Lord IlltOteLll.lM said he, did not like to surrender the
clause., but iu toe present state of the house (there were
only two peers besides Lord Broughun himself un the Op-
potation side) neietence on hi. part was hopeless.
Chime* 27 and Lel were then struck out.
Ch'ing, 29, 311, and 31 were agreed to, and clauses 32 and
33 (as we undenteted) postpuntd.
flame: el was muted to.
Ti, which enacts that two judges on circuit mar
determine appeals from County Cintrts, was then 'imposed.
Lord DEACIIONT objected to the clause.
Lord lilte1:611.1M said he deemed this clause of se
much importance that he mint record his upinieu on the
point by troubling their lordshipe to divide.
The committee then divided—
)"or the elause 4
Aletinst it ll-10
The enamor was accordingly struck out.
'I he remaining clauses of the bill were then struck nut.
Lord IlltOUtillANl, with regeed to the nestpeleil
clauses, thee° mating to courts act ri culleilval, lie said lie
believed if they were retained, they would (elect a great
and decided improvement in the administration of the law,
awl that such courts would he an important step gained
Near& an extensise and reheat improvement of the judi-
e eysteia. Whatever tended to brine the parties in a
suit as directly and immediately us messitile bethre the jitney
could ail in preventing those mieehiefs which the inter-
ferenee of a lore class of legal erettiticiners too (eminently
teraeioned. sflie peopeed pneailed iu France,
iu North Deem say, in Switzerland, anti is D'•amark, mud
in all, especially Denmark, heal bee-nate-eh d with seem-es;
cud unless human nature was different here from
what it was in thoev (-wearier, he could nut
uuderstund why it should net be equally sue-
oeseful in this country. In France, where it had
suceemb .1 to a leer exited than in the other countries,
of u menet' eose, breuebt I ;*.,e., tee juice du pail, who
was the judee of the Court ~f It, eolicilement, thne-fourths
were amicably :settled by the ta,listion of that fun, tern-
ary. *flume were eines 'evolving c.:111. under 1,000 franc, ;
in ewer 111V0h113 turger 11M111.111ts oily about one-thinl were
arranged by the same means. In Denmark eine-tenths of
the causes were settled amicably by the advie of the
judge of thew courts of reconeilnaent. It had !teen Illt•
it etc d that SUOI a system would ruillle parties who hail
ws inteution of taming to an arratr4aairnt throUlh theee
courts to obtain,* knowleilee of their opponente, Cane ; but
their object should not in all ca.,. be the interest of the
parties in the Neil, but the int, r. st of justice. As these
chnoce were aNiVted to, how ece:. though c ntertainine a
very geeing opinion un the subject himself, he should not
peen them.
'Me clauses we re then put and negatived.
Their lordship, adjouratel at e) minute. to 9.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tresn‘T, Aran. 8.
The SPLAILER took the chair at four o'clock.
THE Si'. ALBANS ELECTION—ABITECTION OF
WITNESSES.
Mr. AGITONLIT presented a petition from Henry Ed-
wards, stating that he is in custhily, having been committed
under the Speaker's warrant ; that he wan informed it had
been reported to the house that he and a person named
Hayward bail prevent. -d the attendanet of a nt named
Waggett before the St. Allkuis election committee, and hail
{risco him money for the purpose of concealing himself. lle
dine, il the truth of these allegations, and 'prayed that he
might be heard in some way ir other in hi. defence. Ile
priced that be might be set at liberty on rising an under-
taking 1., a;,ilear before the cvoinfliittic and give t vidence,
and to olk-r the orders of the house in all particulars. The
bon. 111.•111114T said he was not responsinh, in the
slightest degree for the allegations in this petition,
but he thon.:ht the attention of the )1"11.4" ought to Ike
called to it, and he would, therefore, move that the petition
he printed and taken into consideration to-morrow (this
dBZ)*
Mr. E. ELLICE, jun. (the chairman of the contreittec),
said he could have no possible objection to the motiou.
The motion was then agreed to.
Mr. F. ELLICE, jun., said, by direction of the commit-
tee he had to report that the agent of the petitioner bad'
,tated upon oath that James Skait and Thomas Itirelimore
had been examiued by him, and that by their evidence he
could estitilish distinct acts of bribery on the part of
the sitting member : 3111 that IlOttl itkitanding warrants
hail been issued and attempts made to serve such warrants,
on the :said James Skait and Thomas Birehmore, all such
attempts had hitherto failed. The hon. gentleman said he
could assure the house that it was a most painful duty he
had to perform in this matter ; and he would merely state
that which he thought was right, because this was the second
application lie hail made to the house fur the committal of
persons. Them was not the slightest doubt in the minds of
the c..mmittee that there hail been a wholesale abstraction
of evidence before the committee. In the two cases now
before the house the depmitions of the parties had previously
been taken and signed by themselves. Of course they had
nut those depositions before them, but the agent who was
privy to them had stated on his oath that
he -believed, from the nature of these documents,
that if the witnesses were forthcoming. he would he able to
substantiate acts of bribery Now these parties disappeared
on the very day the warrant was issued. They had been
absent from their homes, and no endeavour, either on the
part of the police or of other parties, had been sufficient to
trace them. It was the decided opinion of the committee
that those witnesses had absconded in order to avoid
giving evidence ; and all be could say was that if such con-
duct was to be permitted by the house, it would be impos-
sible ever to stet at the bottom of any ease of bribery, and
that any attempt to do so would be frustrated. Ender these
circumstances he should move that James Skait and Tho-
MallEirchinore, having abseinided from the service of a war-
rant, have been guilty of a breach of privilege ; and then he
would s•'" • parties, have' been

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