The Express.
London, England, 1865-04-28 00:00:00

THE EtFRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 28, 1865.

; sad Leedom and Worcester, mid South
W P.oilway Bilk.
Shortly before half-peat 4 the Obriesellor of the Ex-
cheqear astered the lme,.•ad was reesived with cheers
from the minhaerial side" of the house.
ASSAPHINATION OF PILISIDENT lOOLN.
ffik G. GREY Nee nod asid,—Sir, in order to give
the home en epportuoity of expeessing the feeling whisk
I am we every member of it satertaiss, sod which I omit
mid pervade; the whole artistry, with referees to the
mmimination of the President of the United Statee,l wish
I to give notice on the pert of my motile friend at the head of
the government, that on Moe* next he will move an
humble address to her Majesty, expressing the feel-
btp of sorrow and indignation with which this house
Imo heard of the perpetralke of that atrocious mime
--(Grim of "bear, hem ")—and their sympathy with
Me government and people of the United Statee,
tied humbly praying her Majesty, in oommtinicating to
the government of the United States, her coodolenoe in
this matter, to convey at the NMI time an expression of
deep feel* on the pert of this hones. (Cheers.)
THE ARMAMENT OF THE ACHILLES.
Mr. H. BAILLIE naked the Secretary to the Admiralty
whether it was true that the Achilles, of 6,100 tone burden,
arid constructed to carry 40 gums, was only able to carry 90,
and those only 100-pounder Somerset goes ; Lod, if it wee so,
whether he thought that • ratkfactor7 result of the first
attempt of the Admiralty to build iron ships.
Lord C. PAGET replied that it was quite true that
from the increased weight of armour that bad been put oa
the Achilles sines she was first designed bar armament had
been reduced from 60 to 20 guns, but from the increased
power of those rune he had no hesitation in saying that the
alteration was satisfactory.
THE REGISTERING OF CROWN DEBTS.
Mr. HADFIELD asked the AttorneyGeniwal whether he
intended to bring in • bill to amend the law respecting the
registering of crown debts, so es to reader it unnecessary
for boos Ede purchasers of real estates to make searches, at
considerable expense, before they can safely complete pur-
chases from persons wh) are the apparent owners thereof.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said the matter was trader
consideratioo, bat he was sot at present prepared to say
when a bill would be brought in for the purpose alluded to
in the question or the boo. member.
THE CASE OF MARY GREEN.

ice 500000._ wax ye,
year with the expenditure of the year, a very simple and
satisfactory openitioe. The expenditure, aceording to the
vecoutte to March 31, 1866, was 66,462,0001., and the
revalue for the year ending upon the same day was
70,313,0001., showing • surplus of reveaue over expendi-
ture, according to the usual and established method
of calculation, of 3,851,0001. (Hear, bear.) If, how-
ever, we take into view, as perhaps we ought to
take into view, end r the sheet which I have
just laid upon the table does take into view,
the additional expenditure upon fortifications, which has
been provided for in an especial manner by the creation of
parliamentary annuities, we must then add a sum of
620,0001. to the expenditure which hie bees incurred, rais-
ing it to 67,082,0001., and deducting that from the revenue
as 1 here stated it, the surplus of revenue over charge upon
the least favourable 'bowing will amountto3,tll,ooo4 Upon
paring to another branch of the subject, end oomperiog the
rennet with the estimates of the year the molt has also
been a malefactor on. The revenue which 1 estimated on the
7th Apnl, 1864, was 67,128,0001.; the actual revenue has
not been less than 70.313,0004, showing a surplus brood
the estimate of 3,185,0001.. and that surplus extend" I
may may, to every material head of the avenue—it extends
to the miscellaneous receipts (but the difference on that
head has little to do with the &duel condition of the country)
—it runs through the customs, excise, income tax, stamps.
and Poet-office. The most extraordinary of these augmen-
tations to the revenue as compared with the es-
timate is in the customs, which shows an ex-
am of 752,0001. over the estimate, and in the cue
of the excise, which shows an excise of 1,538,0001. In the
instance of customs there has been a rather general Wanes.
The only important article of decrease has beau one epee
which I for one invariably view • large decrease with grist
satisfaction, 1 mean the duty received opoo the importation
of foreign corn. The revenue from foreign oorn—tbe small-,
nets of which is the test of the greatness end abundance of
the home supply—has clamored upon the year just ex-
pired, as compared with the one preceding, by no lees &
sum than 184,0004 The wine duty has incresseel
by 75,0001., and it appears to have kept up
a steady and sufileieet Increase from year to year. But the
most important item, end upon which the greatest interest
will be felt, is, of course, the article of eager, upon inieh
parliament operated by legislation bet year. The legislation
of last year was reckoned to give to the consumers of sugar
a relief to the extent of 1,719,0001. That relief, to be per.
Welly compensated by a recovery from consumption, it woe
sinned would entail upon thee 'chequer sloes of 1,390,0001.
Bat the circumstances have been favourable, and prices
have fallen in sugar in combination with the reduced duty,
sad the actual loss has only been about 926,0004, showing a
recovery from increased consumption of no less that
404,0001. beyond the recovery which Iliad calculated in tbe
estimate. (Hear, hear.) If next we look to the remark-
able case of the excise, the committee will be struck by ea
excess of receipt as great as ooe end a half million above
the estimate. It will be well if the committee shall
always bear in mind that on new element of un-
certainty has been lately introduced into the
revenue of excise as a result of the cheap
which, for all important ropers, was beneficial and rea-
sonable-1 mean in the malt credit, the shortening of those
credits, and the receiving of the duties within the year In
which those charges are incurred. In former times they
were not included in the current year ; and large portions
of the malt duties which were a subject of revenue, were
not collected for a long period afterwards. (Hear, hear.)
The sum that 1 have referred to of lb million in the
original proposal has led to the geoend reduction of items
under the head of excise, but the two important items in
which the mass of the "crease has occurred ere malt end
British spirits. The malt duty was estimated at 5,830,0001.,
and it produced 6,377,000/., showing en excess of 577,0001.
The dry on Bette!) spirits wee estimated et 9,660,0001.,
and it yielded 10,173,0001., being en isomer beyond the
estimate of 523,0004 The increase in the spirit duty, not
only on the estimate, bat on the proceeds of the preceding
year is 432,0001. under the bead of British spirits
end 309,0004 under the head of spirits im-
ported from abroad, making eltogether a total "-
were in the receipts of the Exchequer from spirits
of 741,0004 within the year. Now, looking at the com-
parison between the revenue of the year and that of the
year preceding, we had estimated a 1061 of 3,000,0004, bat
in lien of that loss we have a small gale which, secordieg
as it is stated, may be put at 106,0001., or 147,0001. in
favour of the year 1864-.5 as compared with 1863-4. (Cheers.)
That is not very materiel or significant, bat what is material
end Ought:est. and what I am desirous of bringing liner
the notice of the committee, inasmuch as it would have an
important bearing on the gradual growth sod increase of
the revenue of the country,is a matter which I onset
state with mathematical exacters, inasmuch as the state-
ments which are made in the table* of the Board of
Trade with regard to the gain of new taxes
and the loss by the repeal of old ones partake"a cerbsia
degree of the nature of estimates. Still I do rot think that,
comparing one period with another, there is much appre-
beano° of serious error, and for the information of the
committee I have endeavoured to estimate the annual rate
of growth of the revenue of the country at those periods.
I begin with 11340, and come down to 1&52, the year imme-
diately preceding the difficulties with Russia smiths out-
break of the Crimean war, which occurred before the close
of the next financial year. I take the revenue of the first
period and compare it with the revenue of the last, and I
find the difference between them. I then take the taxes
repealed and the taxes imposed, sad strike the balance,
adding the balance to the Improvement of the revenue.
I thus And the true meson" of the improvement of the
revenue, supposing the sources of mean to continue the
same. That Is the true maxim of the progress in the pro-
ductive powers of the country es between 1840 and 1852.
The taxes imposed daring that time amounted to 6,285,0001.,
and the taxes reduced were 13,597.0001., showing a baboon
of taxes reduced of 7,312,0001. During the same period the
revenue, after deduct"( the Item miscellaneous, showed an
improvement of 5,051,000/. Adding thew two sumo to-
gether, I obtain 12,363,0001., 'bowing that between 1840'
and 1852 the revenue of the country bad grown—assuming
the growth of the sources to have ben the same, had in-,
creased et the rate of 1,0311,0001. year. (Hest, hear.)'
I then take the period of the Russian wet, coding
before the considerable mares of expenditure in 1859.
From 1853 to 1859—1 shall not trouble the committee with
details—the balance of taxes repealed over those imposed
was only • million, and the improvement of the revenue
six Or SST= millions : and as nearly as a calculation as be
merle, from 1853 to 1869 the average growth of the income
of the country was 1,240,0004 instead of 1,030,0304 I
think the next period, of 18.59 to 1865, the time et which I
lave now the loner to address the committee, • period
during which very large chooses took place in the banned
taxes repealed over taxes imposed. That balance amounted to
6,137,0004, and adding to that the taxes repealed in 1858, but
which did not take effect uotillBs9-60, and deducting certain
trio repealed in 1864, but which only take effect" 18656,
the reel and tale balance will then be found to be, of taxes
reduced, 6,713,0004 At the same time there was en In-
crease in the revenue of 3,968,0004, and the rate of the
annual growth of income from the same sources for this
period having been in the first 1,030 000/., and in the snood
1,240,0001., showed for the third period an snarl
growth of 1,780,000/. (Haar, beer.) Now, sir, having "-
presented a etre of Mop which is evidently satisfactory,
and hearing testimony to the increase of power and vigour
in the country, I must of course remind the committee
that this annual growth is not a growth which can
at any time be safely ailed on for a single year,
because at any time not only one extraordinary calamity,
but the ordinary calamity of a bad harvest might reduce
this growth, or cause it to disappear altagether. As regards
the state of the balances : on the 31st March, 1864, they
were 7,352,0004, and on 31st March, 1865, they were
7,690,0001, showing an increase of 343,000/, The advances
for public purpcees haver late become a drain, from cares
which, however, will cease te operate. I anode to the
Lancashire loan. The 'deans.' were 2,900,000/., and the
errs of miners aver repayments amounted to 303,0001.
The amount of debt paid off was—Exchequer
Bonds, 300,0001. • Exchequer Bills, 2,100,0001. • stock
t purebred, 939,0001. • capitol redeemed from; ter-
; annuities, 2:060,0004, giving a total. gab.
ject to deductions for fortifiettioes to the angst
of 726,0004, of 4,614,0001. I meat now lake blame
to myself for never having before stated to the committee
the absolute rootlet of Vaier. We are indebted to the
statistical department of the Beard of Trade for "bowies us
die amount of the usticeal debt. The ordinary practice
has been merely to take the landed and unfunded debt, bet
to Mike DO ailos•SOC• for terminable annuities. Bat the
retinal deperteont has Digitalized the among et the
terminable annuities, and I have their value up to the 21st
of last birch. The effect is to make the bt somewhat
larger. The total of the debt of de
the country

oellemous aivrt service, 7,650,000 L That figure is set
yet fixed with predates, bat it assort vary muck oak
way dr, -another, and I may hope that it is sufficient for the
charges we shall ask the home to sanction. The total of
the hgures is 66,139,0001., or exactly 1,110,0001. less than
the estimates laid ois the table of the holm' sod voted by
the house in 1864.5. (Hear, hear.) The estimate for the
ninon of the coming year is as follows :—Customs,
; ?2,775,0001. eras, 19,030,0001. In that animate as
allowance ia rude—a ressonsble and prudent allowance—
for a considerable reduction from she receipts we have bad'
this year in the article of malt. Stamps, 9,560,0001. •
sage, 3,350,0001.; income tax, 7.800,0001. • Post-ofliore,
4,250,0001. ; crown lands, 315,0001. irderellanesue,
2,650,0091. • China indemnity, 450,0001. I may atatethat
node. tbs gird of miscellaneous receipts which will eons
to our credit this year are included several
sums that are mentioned in the first pap of
the army estimates for the year, sod that are them
taboo credit for as forming a virtual reduction of army
theses. They will be virtually reductions in the army
charges, because the items come back to the credit ads of
the account as well as go out at the debit side. They are
I chiefly sonnected with payments for army mares, either
from lodia or from the colonies. The estimated OMNI
according to the figures 1 have taken, is 70,170,0001. ThZ
estimated charge is 66,139,0001., showing a probable=
of noise over eharp of 4,031,000/., or above four
sterling. (Carrs.) Now, sir, I cone to the difficult quo-
tire of the disposal of the surplus. (Cheers.) 1 will tintl
of all mention changes that snot some value to those they
may affect in the general conduct of kenos ; but
changes which it will not bo memory for me to
takeinto account as bearing upon the future
balance of income and expenditure, because they
were of too insigaificant a character, and became
they may also Deimos one another. It is
with regard to the duty on the transfer of sharer=
mantes to make a change to as to enable potties seasl
preoieely to adjust to the amount of transaction the sum
they may pay upon it, rather than, as now, making two
conveyances instead of one in order to effect a small swiss.'
That is to be done in two forms. It is proposed that se 1
anomaly shell be removed with regard to stamp duty on
scrip certificatee, and receipt, upon them. At present the
l
stamp duty does not apply where the loan or compasy,l
though made in England, is foreign, but it applies to all
domestic transactions, and although I am certainly apposed
to the protection of the Englishman spine the foreigner, I
am equally opposed, if one can merge it, to the promotion
of the foregoer against the Englishman. (Laughter.) It
appears to me that if • loan is raised for foreign
purposes in the country the transaction connected with
such loan ought to be subject to the tame charge ea if it
were raised for domestic purposes. Application has been
made, which I think is a proper one, to the effect that the
stamp on the letting of small tenements far periods lass
than • year should be reduced. It is not a very burden-
eons stamp at the present moment, so far as the paying of
the coin wield convey an idea, because it only amounts to
6d., bat whea it is emaidered that in many places booms
are let for a week, a fortnight, or a month at 2s. 6d., 3a.,
or Is. 6d. a week, that forme a sensible tax, and has •
certain measurable effect in deterring people front the us.
of printed inextunents. Therefore we propose to reduce
that stamp to Id. (Hear, hear.) The tax upon amines-
menu, which at the present day Is levied on
a minimum of 501., we propose to reduce by a
scale downwards, no that property amounting to
five pounds, instead of paying the minimum tax of 2s. 6d.
shall pay a proportionate duty of threepence and won up-
wards. We propose to give certain relief to gentlemen who
are subject at present to an anomaly which I am surprised
should have arises. Special pleaders and convoyamars ars
now liable to pay is general the MEN duties as attorneys
and solicitors, but the latter have a very fair Wetmore of
half duties for the first three years, while special
and conveyancers have not. We
togive tin
benefit of that partial remissiou. ( tea.) We doll
come to more extensive subjects by and by. We =
In some newer§ to reduce stamps oil ecclesiastical
where they )appear so high as to form • very seem
harden, or to prevent the use of the instrument to whisk
they apply. We propose to make a change with regard
to the law of ohartorpartios, which at preient
is in a very unsatisfactory state, and it is a
matter of considerable interest to gentlemen muscatel with
matey ports, panics/a* in the sorb of England. At pre-
sent the duty on • rharterparty is ss. Ws propose to re-
duos it to 6d subject to a condition that it should be
drawn on a printed form and on stamped paper - for we
think it hater to have a sixpeany duty sawed biller sad
get it, white we expect to do, than to ham a is. duty,
which in very few instances we are so lodinate as to got
(A laugh.) There are oleo some cheeps with regard to po-
licies for marina insurances—one rs, that policies homed
abroad are not to be recovered unless brought home te be I
stamped within a certain time ; mother is, that the Emit ,
of time premed by the alteratios of alts law last yeas an
s
to marine mattrances is to be removed, ea it has been found
burdensome. Another is, that the rata of duty is to be ra-
dioed on what are called time policies in marine teammate.
The rate of duty ie to healtered in their favour. Ludy,
• change is to be made with a view of effecting a more
equitable arranputeot in the stamp duties on newsman
gum by certain companies for three purpose, two of white
hang together very well, but the analogy is net se
conspicuous in the third. One is the same=
urea accidental death, mother on permed in-
jury, and the third, insurances for plate gees.
These three are substantially alike, and the duty requires
some qualification in order to brim/ them into barmooises
rod consistent application. Now az, pane majors ens-
mos. (Laughter.) I come to the great subject which has
attracted the attention of the home os an interesting eves-
lag's debate during the present year, viz, the malt duty.
(Loud erica of " Hear. hear.") Sir, OD that evening hot
Majesty's government ezpressod, through my right hon.
friend the President of the Board of Trade, their sense of
the groat importance of that question, sad their convictice
that at any rata, whether they might he sanguine or not as
to the result, it required careful and labodoss ocosidan-
tion at their hands, and that they were bound to meet the
desires that had been expremed, or else to eats fully and
clearly the masons which prevented them from gratify*
these desire in race a manner if it were passible as totareveg,
if sot satiefactim, at all one* in some degree, conviction
to the minds of those who might hoer them. Now, in ap-
proacg the ocenderatioa of this very important ciLsties,
1 would begin with deprecating an t which is oftsa
mad in rospsat to It. It is °onion y stated, in all yew
logialatios you have done nothing far the ohm of apse
twists. (" Hear, hoar," from the Opposition.) Now, eim
I should like to know what ia the chins for which we lain
done anything. In my opinion the most marked of all the
eharsetaristies of torbaseantary legislation in no* yeam
has bees this, that we ham been endeavoring to existed,
ourselves from the vicious habit of looking to the fate-
nest of dams--(ohosre)—.and to egret* for the Iner
rase of the country. (Cheers.) 1 know, indeed, that
there are claws whom we an supposed to have
injured. I know that there are coostituson is the
country where our friends have suffered, WINDS those who
are disposed to place confidence in the government have
been rejected, simply on the pond that the proposals ad
the governm®R concsived in the interest of the public.
have been injurious to the interest of agnenlture. But I
want to know what is the case in which, during this parte.
mem, we have salted parliament to sunned.., or parliament
has eonesatad to rereads: the revenue of the country,
which is public property. in any other interest than the
broad and comprehensive newest ,of the sates at large i
tbet
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trimi
lonefit ef Sir'
I is a. re
• eof the Power order
not merely Involving at the very outset a trim* of duty
to the nation, whose trustees we am without distinction of
climes. bat is point of fact conveying far lets a benefit of
ultimate advantage even to the favoured ohms than that
which they might desire from wise legislation impartially
applied and spend over tho whole seem*. (Hear.) lam
bound to say I thiak if there is my proposal we have mode
which at all 'avows of a in
for the interest of elan--I
will not say it was es =fair one—but I will say the mse
was very peculiar, and I think it is &proposal for which you,
air, are partially responsible, altWeift we are glad to nit-
, mately take or share of aloe rap DAM', DI mewing
the pores of hops from the duty to which they wore sub-
j• Ci. (Lao!lihter4 I proceed to decuse, with the per-
mesioa of the ooseinlttes, this important of the
ma4ary, and Bret, 1 cossidm the thet is made
in to the amount of charge which the malt duty
oats on the consumes of beer. It is said, and maid
that although the malt cloak, only '
6,0t,a1. into the Excquer, ye the OM of the '
duty to the consumer is 39,000,0004 I their even die-
tisgaished 'asthma is this Dims love elaborately AGSM,

bees this I:DOWN iSCIFISOD is km. - Perot
future from &breed. [An Hoe. liftmen Raga ?) Bags are
Sanded, bat I do not distinguish between rags and other
materials for paper. The rap faun °sly a small proportion
of the whale. Raw vegetable product is, I t hink,
by far the largest part. But then is • remarkable fact,
that such has been the *dements of the stimulus
Igiven to the search for new materials, that the
owner of cotton waste is now reduced to ism-
, plain that he can no logger get for his coins
waste one half the prim he used to obtain for
it. That is the state of the case. It isnot worth the paper-
maker's while. en much is his command of material upon the
whole limited—l do Dot speak of any isdividnal paper-
nester, bat of paper maker as • due—that it is not worth
Ids while to give the owner of cotton waste the same price
that it wee formerly worth his while to give, because be ob-
tains &saw material from other sonnies. A gentleman
who has quantities of cotton waste to dispose of informs
me by letter, that whereas in 1860 middling Or-
estes cotton oust him whereas he could get =a.
• pink for sweepings, now that he has
to pay • good deal more ter New Orleans cotton
ke cannot get more than 9e. a pack for sweepings. As
respects the trade with Fiance, which is a subject of
special interest, that trade cortinme to increase. It varies
in its form. The value of British products has slightly
diminished since two or three years ago, but the total
trade with Frame steadily Morasses in imports as well se
export.. In 1859 the total amount of our trade with
France sou 26,431,0001. In 1964 it was 49,797,0004,1
showing an increase of 23,366,0004, or nearly 90 par
cent. (Cheers.) And there is Dot • single yew of
the whole in which, if we take the exports of all
kinds together, our exporta to France have not shown an,
increase over the year before. In comparing the °audi-
tion of this country or the trade of the country with
that of Frazee, 1 would speed ore moment in
removing a common misapprehension. It is believed, and
it is used by some one as a consolation anise • burden of
great expenditure, that the public expenditure of France is
much higher than the public expenditure of this country.
That 'chef is erroneous, and it is brought about by the
mode in which the amousta are rendered, sad in which the
local charges of France are passed through the medium of the
Impede] treasury. I have ne zooms later than 1862, be-
muse, though, as is well known, the French accounts are •
perfect model of scientific precision and cleerness—(boar,
hear)— yet their final account does not appear until con.
slderably in &near of the period to which it refers.
But for this purpose it will do perfectly well, and the mat-
ter is one of some interest. In 1862 the *peanut expendi-
ture of France was 88,493,0001., but of that expenditure a
very large proportion was tor purposes of • local character,
and purposes which do not appear at all' in the Imperial
expenditure of this country. The expenditure of France in
that year for the purpose of comparine with this country
was 80,815,0004, and the expenditure of this country in the
same Jeer, that is 1862-3, the nearest year we can get, was
70,352,0001., or an moms of about nine millions and • half
bayond the expenditure of France. The account I
think stands somewhat better now. I believe we
have made a little progress since that period in
reducing our own charges ; I am not quite sous that one
neighbours and friends across the Channel have been so
fortunate, although they are pro:reedier in the direction of
attaining the desired end. As regatta the whole trade of
the country, 1 stated last year the immense amount to
which it had risen. I think the total then reached not less
than about 445,000,0001. of mosey. It has aodergoee a
large further increase in the year which expired on the
31. st of December, for of course we have nothing to do with
the financial year in regard to trade. It now stands
thee imports, 274,000,01304 ; exports, 21°,000,00W. ;
making together 487,001,0904, being an increase of
219,000,00 W. since the comparatively recent period of 1854.
And here I come to • point of very great and real intend,
to,which I desire to call attention for • few moments.
There is again an imps nsion that while the increase of the
trade of this country has of late years bees undoubtedly a
remarkable increase, yet it has been less than the incrpass
which has taken place in the trade with fo-
reign countries. And this is a matter which some-
what touches, not only the reputation of the
parliaments of England, which for twenty-five years
have attached so much consequence to the removal
of shackles from industry and commerce, but it likewise
bears, and materially, upon the wisdom and no-
comity of continuing that policy for the future.
It is quite true that the trade of France exhibits a Juju
relative increase of late years than that of England, and I
venture to say that it would have been strange indeed if
this had not been the case. (Hear, hen And why
Because the trade of From door the great war, and espe-
cially aims the wasting and crushing depopulation of the
last years of that wee, which destroyed almost half of her
labouring end productive power in the men who were then
under 30 yeses of age—that trade, for so vast a °matey,
remained for 30 or 40 years after the war midis en wins.
torsi depression in ooniequeoce of that waste of popu-
lation. (Hear, bear.) It is therefore not wonderful
that the trade of Franco should have shown •
greater relative increase than the trade of England, which
had lost the activity and vigour of her manufacturing
and commercial operations, and, happily, had never been
subjected to so sweeping • loss of the best blood of her
country through • devastating and desolating war. In
Franco, In 1854, the exports—l have only the power of com-
peting the exports, but that will be sufficiently effectual
for ray purpose—the exports were 78,000,0001.; in 1854 and
in 1863 they were 141,000,0001., showing an inseam of 81
per cent. In the United Kiogdon the exports in 1854 were
116,000,0001., and the exports in 1863 were 197,000,0001.,
showing an increase of no more than 70 per mat. That is sot •
very bad comparison, but still I grant that if it stood alone
it would authorise you to say that • meetly which bad done
little in the way of relaxing its oommercial laws had achieved
relatively more than a souitry that bad done much, and
made great propene en the read to commercial freedom.
But when we look at the &bonnie condition of trade it
does appear that while France added 63,000.0001: to the
total of her exports, Ragland added 81,000,0001. to her pre-
viously rut amount of o:porta. But if you want
to have • fair comparison do not take a country
like France, which has been placed under einem-
Inalleell so abnormal in commonest* of the ruin
and ravages of war. Take two neighbouring countries with
free institutions, countries which hare not undergone the
same sufferings as Prance, which have been in • more
Donal state of progress without revolution and without
war. Unfortunately it is (Molt to find countries en the
continent without revolution and without war. Let as take
Belgium and Holland. I apprehend there is DO ornery
which has enjoyed more fully the benefit of the railway
system than Belgium. I hare shown that the exports of the
United Kingdom between 1854 and 1863 increased 70
per cent. In Belgium, one of the most flourishing and beet-
cooditioued ocomtrice,the export' ineressed in the sans time
from 28,0013,0004 to 40,0000001.,, or 43 per coot.—(hew,
bear)—and the exports of Holland grew lb that period from
34,000,0004 to 40,000,000—n0t 70, but 25 cent. (Hear,
hear.) With regard to Audria, it is very difficult to make
a fair comparison, but it is really lamentable to find is •
country of that out extent, with its immense capabilities,
that the whole export trod, in 1644 did not reach 11,000,0 n
and that in 1856, though there had been a very
increase, the amount did not reach 22,000X0T1.
Let us hope that the noble lord sow at Vienna will noosed
in persuading the imperial government, not that it is •
matter of vital lentiortanes to Fogland that they should
alter their tariff, but that it is • matter of vital importances
to themselves. (Hear, hear.) We shall be perfectly meth
feed with the share of benefit which mist seomearlly redeem&
to us in the priecipie that he who gives ia always more
blessed than he who takes. Os the whole, I come to this
conclusion, that we have derived enormous advantages—
almost boundless advantages—from the Menthes mph*
which bas distinguished the mechanism of the present
age, from the application of sew prinoiphis and
methods of locomotion. I believe the railway ores-
puke of this country receive from the public for the
services they perform above thirty nanos nimbus per
annum, and I think it would be • mode ate alienate if we
were to say thatemother thirty :anew per thrum is the
sure addition to the wealth of the reentry, made by the in-
, Seduction of rallwa eves after main every allowance
that may be requited for capital invested in ether forms of
llooontotion which have been partially or wholly snpseseded
by railways. But, after all that esa be said en this rob)**
I think the result of these figures is to show that immense
advantage has else embed from the appaceoely simple, bat
is peueJos maenad, difficult preens of • emmerring hen,
Inters. sod obeirooftono, devised by the perversity of vase
Wessel , treat the pate of hums ia&Ohl. sod trusting to
the simple expedient of freedom for the development of the
productive powers of the country. (Hear, hear.) It is no
small honour that as in regard to locomotion, so in regard

Is TOrt Purl Binrithaer,
Mr. ILLIERS explained that parochial relief had not
bees refund in this case by any properly constituted paro-
chial authority. The hnsband of the deceased woman war
not • pauper but an artisan, and had made an arrangement
with a medical man to attend his wife in bar confinement.
In the Interval that man sold his practice, and with it all
his engagements, to soother practitioner ; when the latter
came to see the woman he found--according to the evi-
-1 denoe—that the family were poor., and not being sawed
that he would be paM, he said it was • ease for the
parish, and refused to attend her ; upon which
the husband proceeded to the Islington workhouse.
Its
did not, however, apply to any parochial authority, but
saw at the gate a man who was himself a pauper inmate,
and by him he was told he would not get the medical relief
be required, unless he produced his marriage certificate,
and thereupon he applied to a medical man, who at once at-
tended ; bat in coosequenee of the delay that bad taken
place, the child was dead, and the woman died shortly
afterwards. The relieving officer was at home at the time,
and if the application had been made to biro, he would at
once have forwarded the requisite medical aid, se it was
precisely such a cams as would have been relieved di-
rectly.

THE JEWS IN MOROCCO.
Mr. H. B. SHERIDAN raked the Under Secretary of
Slate for Foreign Albin whether it was true that the
Emperor of Morocco had withdrawn the firman delivered
lest year to Sir Moses flootefiore, promising to the Jews in
Morocco the security and protection of regular justice ;
whether any information had reached the government of the
imprisonment of twelve chiefs of the Jewish community of
Tetuan for the alleged oon•paymeot of a Moorish guard at
the gates of this Jewish quarters ; and whether any steps
have been taken to ascertain whether any of the twelve
chiefs were British subjeota.
Mr. LAYARU said he had so reason to believe that the
finnan of the Emperor of Morocco had been withdrawn.
On the contrary, be believed that the Emperor had the
strongest thane to carry it out. He had !revived no official
report on the subject, hut a few days sines be bad seen Sir
Moses Monteliore, who bad expressed confideoce in the Em-
peror, sod satisfaction with the condition of things in
Morocco. He might add that the perilous arrested had been
Mewed, and that the reports which were published in this
country had been greatly emiggerated.

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which Swell the tow am, teeth is mama, Blee, wee 11151,9114,000 L, while in 1866 it to freedom of trade sad isiderstey, it bee bees OM to the and stipported with micassat that bold • • ----. wig,
in the lest. The
inalle°l=ear 'Suit be radiates is sealer sus 008,288,0' W.. Muria' in six years a dimaustisis if Limited 'F.S !Shay pregame a say, so heed the Tee. air, we see veyeesihea with he*, a beer anima,
mt
ki.
sides, lent am ,
blab a jolt oempariess, sad it it aseeneary to bear M 17,1148,0001., ammatievesadmayy to mud swireem,eaoft
wthrhimilso; . garde( ciien. In the words of me of our pests- i and we are Slid that the me of Mat easelleat ii new
mad the west tel whieli ma ebtaimed fa 1880 by the Bose a mer--a am which "To serve an model for the mighty world, `a Mildewy to deader the insegleatice, tut thervit
Iso proof of diadems of imagiesties on the pa th-
Isms of &beat 2,149,0001. keg sanuities. If we taint, then, at the same tam a I seemed mammies of the repeal of the malt clogrt
4 -
wyt I say term the tree expedite» of the emetry, sad °Doddering the seessioes"" beilliassee:santriofd4eadribt.itledetili: _
ear _ And be the fair begiaaing of a timer -
• wise in order to mks that tees, add the few other mattes 1 whiab it would are
mif we wee On lb i b )--•"1 of a time richly fesaght set oeig with • they show, is Nog via what we meet ohs
charmehke stria I ham sum& sad strike out all the Ai struggle foe esieteme, I caa hardly say t we, moriondeal advantages, sot only with malt; which cm be ' ads, weeds there ...we, eeg vvr.=,eass eosin.
-items of salsosilaeres rierepta, whiels tend more to mislead es • legislative, have risen to • semi of our Olk!rarrd in delisted table*, but more richly fraught with I that saleable satiate.- -4-IW-ave ii,`;`•7•ogiZtosgaril te,
thee to nutmeg s
oy ens engaged la as inquiry like this, • obliptioas with ngaid
oftehettbansr stsotionalibe
o.ddelitii„ mown:emits:v.v.:o"Mb
ibteont:saiU:thcbefe nnataolintbtchelessamsosindwi
wseamthouclasus% ericrestheeise t
2,1,000:5::
mare
ehr
seese.:Leb. wy:"l.o:l°Peeeeeliosous" „06.0001tbs.„0001.47byeem____0:
the expeeditare of the lasLym 1884 A will be Wired to ' When I turn from the
be 48,957,0001., while the tare of the Ent year of lof trade there Shot me trade of the ociontry on which it is the earth. (Cheers) la mating sea a survey I Mast Ido , eedeayoup to show what is the ma chute
entailed" lid*
this ti "L. 1859'r—"Imated, th" rectified is
' para"they wWilltrobleblveerythesbc"orranittri thatwith
fasaythePutinctddemiS home it I avow that I cannot forget the min reed oe trade* is adding to the eat of beerr-raur ill.
peculiar and kindly interest-i who here it Urger share then aii
the Der, to 87,471,0001., so that there is a rodeo- Whir Imo sat charge wind the melt tax is that it es • Ihs
time Mos 188940, without Merging 1115940 with sums paid which this house has felt
mew the Weg annuities which have expired, in need refer to the ooedition of the paper trade. (Haw, ear.) lin mg this blessing for the_ country. 'Well sail wady strict. the moieties c 4 malt to the Nagai
el y rs.
4,814,999/. eth very far from denying-ea the contrary I deeply deplore has testiarosy bees horse to his meth withis these wails I pomaded es fax se the pumas or mime g . I ree
n bees of 14 minim at more - precisely, of
Ifgo to the year 188041, which wee the you that the period of transition has Wee for many numbers of /ii may be considered impertinence if I presume to repeat wiewirceB that we hen heard merlon, beg
of .that
64
of we. highest expenditure, there was undoubtedly that Wade a period of very great 'Gurney. (Hew, hem) It 1 but closely associated es I was with Mr. Cobdes to ell; (liar, bear.) A bag and careful' series of
a very 1 decrease. • decrease amounting to 8,547,0001. Of that I make no dorild whatever. At the same time ittransactions minected with the *reclusion of the am I hireivaphiy establish this esselt_-thet the us er2tUmes
If we look to the year 1858-9 -the veer before the extensive is rigid to say that the paper trade as a whole not only has . mensal treaty with Prams, I cannot forbear from resiller. I feeding of cattle to he beneficial mon be ,i. is the
*viridian connected with the military and naval depart- not left the eonetry, but shows no intention of leaving B.', log ,rich tribute as it is in my power to render, both to his ; see cocereicaL skew to pimilim.
....._
aad
..!...asea
meets commenced-then we arrive at a airfares% result, and (lieu.) On the contrary, it evidently winos to strike de , character and to his acts. (Hear. hem) he Praibre !
thath bet awserenbotiottubtniierise afar
used. the modeToftsisi
• steed of showing a reduction sack ea that which 1 have roots deeper and deeper liere,for Bulls continually from year ' which have been bestowed on him here, the sorrow which
namednt, any rednotice, we Widths* there has been an in- to year for the importation of more and more materials from has hem felt for him by his fellow-oorintrymen-thst am *eine hot if thee opinion b,Thilf.h.t. b•WiLdeTt Valle
I
erased expenditureoe of nearly three and a half millions, or in abroad, while at the same time the consumer of paper in row has spread over the world, arid those praise have bees mega, wholesale for the feedieg',4 " malt he
figures 3,442,0001. ; and if 'sego back one stage further, that this country is supplied with it more largely and more re-echoed is every foreign lead ; and there is no civilised fearlessly, that "ner the eat „......A ,__, Iwe
.to saT;sito theverydiffermat scaled =meditate which pre• cheaply than at air former period. (liar, hear.) . The • country which would sot clam to share with us in the the ample mews aso employing it: riourst, ihno
!Lied en the Rowan war, end thee weepwre that period importation of paper from abroad has. rise from theina I hounds we MVO paid him. (Chasm.) Be remixes BO hesima_y think 28 wen the tow mother_ •"'" "IL
with the year which has just expired, we Wad that the total oilleant amount at which it stood six years ago to fleetlyalon from me. his memory is part of the salmi- ; for the pumas of preparing melt for °a%
RrOrbthr which has taken place in the anneal of the half a million of money, or more soourstely 477,0001. But tame of his country, and this I feel, that Weal lof cattle after the pining ig the set et lest
country amulet to 12,459,000 k, or very nearly 12 at the same time that these Importations from abroad have with the moollsetioe of Ms distiagaishedi minima there will 'op thole twenty...oi bosses aerie hen dosed year, slid ela
increued, the &mount of material impirted for 1 always carvers among us a remembrance of his qualities ;so Some ca the
That is the date of the expeaditur• seesawed with whst thus largelyi
1,1.. Geri brO doing • very actimit
it has bees RI former years, both is the civil breech sloes riskier British paper hu risen from 13 700 toes in 11159, to true, so medal, so conseisetious, so wimple, so usedfalioa sew, while teyWee, I liaises. are doing ,__, „._ _
and likewise when regarded as • whole ; and lam bound to 20,400 tons ic 1862, to 44.000 tons is 1883, and M 87.000 Men devoted, and leo genial. Hi was a character which added shim Ihe told that they have beee"ZelgTer W* . Nes.
say, speaking of a country of perdu institutions, that in 1884. (Cheers.) And it will be observed that this almost as much lustre to his greatest airtime se it has heideeeecee aaa yeetwav„ amide, ey the I of%
although the expenditure of this period has bees &large me, cannot he amounted for by the disappearance of received lustre from them. (Loud cheers.) 1 ems sow to which parliament hoe jrneceed ? We haw _
yet Ido not believe that at any period of our Meaty the cotton weata, because for the last leer or the estimate at expeeditme and revenue for the althbObil whatever that such 1. them e, Not me ":g 17, sedum
the expenditure, small or great, has bees more /lithely in two the ream waste has beers tending rather to messes. year just opened. The charge OR the unfunded debt for have owed their melt houses ham sliegey wi "• Mis
consommes with the general views end wishes sad feeluip It wen in 1861 or 1862 that the supply of cotton waste wen i 1866.6 is taken at 26,350,0001. The consolidated feud doing anything connected with the ... t "1"" far 1r
of the nation at large. (Hen, bear.) I corm sow to close at the lowest, bat while the supply ricottas waste frees charge le 1,900,0001. The vides for the army moue to =males otehao:cisetwto thedrhave Mdfoundustryno; but
umeima tayihme ell gweACI I"
the - -lets of the year by ounpariog the revues of the our manufacturer has been somewhat reviving, More bee 14,348,0001. ; for the wavy, 10,392,000/. ; collection of the
. .. deaesf
•.- the esaserialsfor - -- mama- revenue, 4,667,0001. i pectiatarvim, 842,0004 ; sad mis. that •- - thought it more pro6cable
' - to . •

thei; = looses to the ion mud' we
of sang malt with a view to the production of bow. /
have here the names of several of those pitheads ‘4,
have permitted me to quote their letters, stating the oft
why they have closed, and not in one tingle whim big
the cent been pat on the difficulty of carrying as put
trade, or on sapling else, stoop the fan that tine b e.
demand adequate to thisearryiag on al their estoblis"
Sir, the next Warp against the malt duty is, that ii,...
rates injuriously on the price of the middle sad leirit
article. That is a charge of great importance, sag so ik
with the permission of the committee, 1 will paini;
direst their attestion But I think the last reins
charge against the malt duty is, that it reins
*wraps brswlng at home. Now, it is isposaie
that charge can be made by those who my that the ~hd,
duty costa the consumer 20,000,0001.—that the lath don
which is only 6,000,0001., through the medium of *show
wets the essionmer 20,000,0004—bemuse the sea tho
news at home will only be relieved el the shoe el the.
6,000.0001, of duty which be actually pays. (Hoar, bawd It
is evident if all then fictitious additions are made tone
malt duty before the beer reaches the oniumer, thermst
system se one which operates ea one of the pay
possible premiums on brewing at home, for the an
who brews at home merely pays his 21s or 19,
per quarter to the anise. (Hear, hear.) But what I Ile
question now before us! Are we asked to condor liir
abolition of the malt duty, or are we asked to modelle
reduction! I pat aside the (medico of abolitions. Se
abolition of the malt duty would he the death curbed
the whole of oar system of indirect taxation. alear,ber4
It is idle and futile to the last degree to suppose that twig
hoer made free from taxation you can tax white sat "Or
on the one silo, or tea and eager on the other. (11.0
The only ocasident man who supports the ripen of Ike
malt duty is, if I may venture to my so, the sly and den.
mimed foe of indirect taxation. (Hear.) I oan quits nein
stand the speeches made from that quarter, for the rend
of the malt duty. They my his a very unprovideet ad
improper tax. They make speeches in this house which at
received by hon. gentlemen opposite with great cheen, sad
they are welowned on those ;articular occasions with re.
workable credulity wocept (modems, sot perceiving that
tie end of all this is the imposition of the whole burden ed
our taxation on property. (Cheers from the oasis.
aerial side of the house.) I repeat that the re-
of the malt duty is the death-warrant
peal of Wired taxation. I say, then, that the quertiou before
us Is, not the repeal but the reduction of the malt duty.
Now, the reduction of the duty, it mast be admitted,
wane's, the argument, because we have still all than
magtal terrors connected with the operation of the eras,
and all thaw disadvantages which must amount to some.
thing, and roust continue as losg as you maiotaie a system
of noise at all. Bet I take its granted that she prod-
ad question ia, at what oost can we make each
a reduction of the malt duty as will semi*
liswer the pries of beer. That I bops /lONS the minim
fairly and honestly. Bat to answer that question we end
asentain what is the proportion of the present
.price elce,
beer that is really due to tondos. I my to tonne, sad
sot to malt duty, because although the balk of wane
omelets of the charge woo malt, yet them is a comma*.
tioa of the hop duty which cocoa eat in the shape of
brewers' licenses ; and there is a Wing chugs for
coaltateid Bosses, of which account mast be tikes
Now these are subjects on which it is ad possible for me te
ask the committee to accompany me through all the dna
eat the inquiry through which we have pstieutly posed
My right hoe. !ring, the President of the Beal
of Trade, has dated that the malt duty ioneeld
oa bees a tax of 12t
.per oast. (Hear, lose 4
' And lam able to my Iwo dunp—first of all, that lis
statement of my right hop. friend (the Presided of the
Board of Trade) wee rigidly just is every sus of the cod
' for the purpomfor whichhe used it, namely, for thinnest
of comparison with the duty imposed by law apas In;
but, esecindly, very high authorities connected with In
' trade, men conversant, Intimately conversant, with in
whole details of the brewing trade, have given the vey
Bores given by my right hon. friend, namely, ni per endi
as the value at the malt dug ; and the other minor dais
of which I have spoken will not make an addition el men
than one or two per wit. ; an that the whole duty will sot
be mare than 14 or lb per cent. I take the incidence el the
duty upon the barrel of beer, as that is the
fair way of comparing it with the sheet or
half cheat of tea. And having on the one hand asked the
°Soma the revenue department to make the mot eared
' and sifting exambaation, and having on the other hand on
tarred with those best informed on the subject, sad no
have Madly at my request goneinto the dinath, I ass in
pared to show that the taxation on beer. of whith ail so
cept we or two per cent. is due to the malt dog, the tot
ion bow aa sold in the barrel may he tens in 20 in mid
' for the sake cl argument. And 1 think lam ate in din
Intim% any attempt to impugn that statement New,
20 per cent is added to the price of beer by In
malt duty, bow much must we take of the malt ddy la
order to produce assemble effect on the price of beer to the
ooneumer ? lam now speaking of beer sold by the bun,
but dumped bulk of beer consumed is soldnot in thalami.
' but * sold in pints end quarts, sad I tinder* do not din
' that anything that would reduce the price by less the. eso
farthing • pint ought to Woos parlianiset to 'WAN
' with the malt daty. Now what ss the redaction al ths
' malt duty that would be absolutel umeseary in order te
reduce the price of beer by one firthy * • port? Is ants
to affect that reduction in the price we most redoes the
duty to somewhat leas than one half. (Hear, beer.) Yea
' must reduce the duty from 2s. 81d. a bushel; it and be
reduced to la. 9d. Now what would he the cost to the
exchequer of the reduction that Than just detiribed? Wien
the strong advocates of the repeal or the Moltke cl the
malt duty come to this guanine of theme to the nehmen
they are dangerously apt to deal. n geseralitiss, sad to Ist
that is one way or other, and especially by the iD(2111101 d
onsumption, the cast to the exchequer would be very pm*
decreased. Now I will state what the NA would to firsi el
all, and thee what would be the effect of the imam al
onewaption. The proper time for the redactios of the
duty, if it were to be reduced, would be beyond all debt
about the Id October. That Is the period at whirl the
stook of hoer in the weeny is the lowest, and it ie the
parked st white we should have to pay the most mod".
1111110IMi for drawback. We should then have to pa! stow
book to the mount of rather more than 1,180,000‘ cm
prohabknol ism than 1,320,0004 for the remainder d tie
pat That is to my, we Mad adtouch the malt datf
for the purpose of giving to eOOllllllllOll the benefit d 5
reduction is the price of ewe birthing a quart at a imeard
to the Exchequer than 2,4110,0004 Bat that is sot
let
wont of the dory. That is the cod of the first Puri
what would be the con al the emu! year ? Accoraln(,r
so estimate tamed at fforsemet-home the met d the
second year after the reduction from 2s. Btd to le. 21. ,•
bushel would be 3,380,0001. (Hear hear) Well, ari,."
might anion, perhaps, rent on OW agoras; they ar"'"
more ekvient than thy comment that could passible/
made upon them ; but now I must touch the one topls tem
might Isessibly be veiled, and that is the inereesed we
anawdos. We may be told that there would be • pelt
recovery from the isommee of consumpson. Now I vience_,
to my that fa the case of the malt duty. 014 only
there not be • peat recovery, but no recovery at sli,sec.
_—
on the cootrary, the inamas of consumption, fireml,
would is all likelihood be a furhter low to the Facheusim
Geatiewies may bear these words with surprise, but then*
planatioa is that, if them is • large iambs in the owerawY
Won of malt, that would canoe a decrease in the oonenwr
Yon of spirits. Meer.) Slow mach? (Rees.) You met oat Ws
your mimien of pkilaathropy, sod Ism perfectly reen:ur
with you, but I beg you to nod roe the mousy fix
lame. (Hear, and lifthter. ) We are sow look* "tbig
manor mHadrian light—in the light of ponds, thilkll4..
and peon, sad setting apart the hustings and the Om',
everything else, to the* it most come at last. Now. sue'
posing that for every 1.0004 additional laid oat is
beer . affix the redaction of themalt duisupposing one-fourth of that displaced spirits—and Ido en
threk that extra hat would be the effect apes
Buniquer ? Wwld that be • pia to the
chequer! Why it would take 81. laid out il
melt after this reduction to bring into the BE'
sheep* what 11. lain eat in spirits weld briao is, ad 5
sopently if 21. worth of spirits be die/Awed by the on
snmption al 81. worth of melt, it follows that we lose by
'wary oddities made in the cossuniptien of melt. New I
de notargns the oleo of malt and spirits farther thee int—
act I have Made good my proposition that if the mill
duty were iodated from 2e, 80. to Is. 11.. 51n1,,,04
to Site Xizarquer in the ant year wee* _he tmor--
and in the second year 3,000,0001. or 3,250000/., an Yes
will have to lay your account in a further loss in wan
queue of the incased oomemption id malt asasieg • dim'