The Express.
London, England, 1849-04-16 00:00:00

HUNTING APPOINTMENTS.

Simmington Hounds will meet to-morrow, at Helmsley—
at 10.
Bedale Hounds—This day, Studley-park; Thursday, Cat-
terick-bridge—at 11.
Mr. Morgan's Hounde—This day, Grcystone•bridge;
Thursday, Chillaton—at 10.
Devon and Somerset Stag Hounds—To-morrow, Hirford ;
Friday, Dulvertnn—at 101.
Mr. Funs'., Hounds—This day, Dolton Beam ; Friday,
Berry-moor, Petrnckst'w—at haltput 10.
Pytehley Hounds—This day, Beanbank- wood ; to-morrow,
Weldon ; Thursday, Biggen—at a quarter to, 11.
Earl Fitzwilliam's Hounds—This day, Newington lodge;
Wednesday, Moorhay Lawn; Friday, Bulwiek—at 10.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.

OLD COURT-SATURDAY.

TRIAL OF MR. DROITET.

Before Mr. Baron Platt and Mr. lattice Willies a.
SECOND DAY.
[We continue the report of the trial where we left off on
St urday.]
Mr. Chembers—WP at was the size of the rooms ?
Sir F. Thesigor objected to Mr. Chambers pleasing his
Own witness ; and
Mr. Baron Platt said he ought not to be treated as a
hostile witness, so he had not shown any disposition to call
Bs suck treatment.
Examination continued—Not half the boys were of the
age of six or seven. Ido not know their number. There
wero four day-rooms. I was there before the cholera broke
out. As a medical man I should say the congregating toge-
ther of the children was one predisposing cause of the
disease. There are many predispeemg causes. The congre-
gating together of large masses is one, as well in other
places as in this establishment. In this cue the congregation
together was the only cause. Generally speaking, there was
not overcrowding.
Mr. Chambers—Do yon, or do you not consider that the
overcrowding there wee one of the causes ?
Baron Platt—But he says there was not overcrowding.
Witness—The over-crowding in that part where there was
overcrowding was a predisposing cause. There was a little
overcrowding in the dormitories of the bigger bey,. I saw
Mr. Grainger when he came there. He went over the whole
establishment, but I was not with him.
By Sir F. Thesiger—l entered the establishment on the
30th of October. J. Andrews was in the little boys' ward.
Hs was in the sick ward at one time; be might have been
there a fortnight. He went in on the Bth of November, and
was always there afterwards, though not on the pick list. This
leek ward, as it wzg called, was afterwards appropriated for
the little boys; and on that account he remaired there.
The boys there had meat and porter when I ordered
it. They had anything I chose to order for them. The
establishment was generally healthy when I went there.
Only 8 or 10 were ill in the boys' ward, and
perhaps the ume number in the girls' ward. Several
children were sent there with the itch. I did
my best to remedy it, but bad not succeeded
when the cholera broke out. The girls and bays were
rated in the establishment, except the very small one,. I
saw no premonitory symptoms before the cholera broke oat.
It broke out very suddenly. There were always some cases
of diarrhoea in the establishment. In consequence of the
sudden breaking out of the cholera, it was neeessoury,teseps-
rate those attacked from the healthy, and there walliseces-
spray much confusion in the utablisbnimet. There was
great difficulty in procuring nurses ; many °ejected to come,
and others having promised failed to do so. Mr. Divest was
very anxious to do all he mild. Up to the time of the attack
the children appeared to me to be as healthy as such children
generally are. I cover heard any complaint of their clothing
nor of their diet from the children. I always considered Mr.
Drouet a humire man. Six adult persons in the establish
mint were attacked with cholera and died. They were pre-
viously in good health.
Re-examined by Mr. M. Chambers—Never went up to the
attic to see haw many boys slept there after the 6th of Janu-
ary. The sth of January was the first day on which witness
had any medical man to assist him. Messrs. Chapman, of
Tooting, rendered him amistance. Theme were always some
cases of diarrhcca in the establishment. During the first
month witnses was there (November) there were 42; i^ De-
e-mber 45. Whether or not diarrhea was a premonitory
symptom of cholera was doub.ed. Witness di,' not think it
w.s so. At Tooting it was not a premonitory symptom, be-
cause those attacked with cholera did not exhibit the

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tozz.
By Mr. Baron Platt—Of the 42 cues in the first month
the greater part wtre cured at the end of the cr.onth. Some
lasted only l no or three day.. About 50 or 60 different pr:rsons
were attacked with diorama in the two montba. In some eases
there was a return of the complaint. Of the 50 or 60, not
more than a dozen were attacked with cholera, and thetclore
he considered that diarrhea was, in that case, no premo-
niticm.
H. nryWt itell, calltd and examined by Mr. C'arksnn—
Was the reet.trar of deaths for the periehes or Streath
and Tootirv. Had his regirtrr built from April Ih4B, downam
to Jan. 1849. and hid referred to it wilt a view ut answering
qurutious. No person wee repistertd in ths divrict as having
died 01 cholera ruin= to 1849.

Croasessained by Sir F. This/ger—His district did not
hashils Wandsworth. Uwe was several cases In adjoining
fis Wits.
Grainger called and examined by Mr. Chambers—Had
bees a member a the College of burgeons for 25 pan and
had been counested with the public hospitals. Held the
situation of medical inspector to the Board of Health, and
was meat down by she board to Mr. Droners feta-
Milhaud os 'sanity sth. Saw Mr. Drones, and
sounusiested to him the object of his visit.
West over seise parts of the establishment cm Friday, direct-
ing_his attention particularly to the cholera ward.
Mr. M. Chasaben—Although you did not go over the
establishment, did you loom an opinion as to the over-
seowdiag ?
Sir F. Thasiger objected to this question. This gentle-
man never maw the erablishaunt till Wie 6th of January.
Mr. Berea Platt—What part of the establishment did you
go
over on Fsiday ?
Witness bad nedeihin es Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Amnia the phase whisk be entered was the school-room.
Had sew eisnersades with Mr. Demist, and in the course
of
it mods some rscomnumilations to him.
Sir F. Thedwr Wowed that this occurred on the dels of
January. the day s=hit the boy was removed. If essent-
mestietiose were made sod set followed the ciresmilinim
meld not at all east the esse.
Mr. Beres Plait bed no hesitation in saying *et shit
paned in sawmill= anima the primer esti WNW
paws weld net be odium
Imannaden delssei—Witasis coadieed It his big.
as a punk dim, hiring rehmed Webs state of the sham
patieuts, to mesa what be dna& desirable for Moeda,
gide Mildesm
•
Mr. BONS Platt--Marely state the conversation.
The Witung—l told Ms. Demist that I thought there was
net =list moiled atessdance, sad that I wadi weer
wed bin le have dem additional medical qualified preed.
down and sae *yokels 01 eminence; that there should be
in every ward with awe thee twelve patients four nurse,
two to the day aid two for the night, and that if there enrol
lee, than twelve primes that, should be three nurse.. He
also rseememilsd taut the ward should be lass crowded.
Mr. Berm Plais—Wen these recommeadations made in
emorqueno of the midalkhasat being than *Melted with
dohs*?
The Whew—Yes, my lord.
Mr. Bores Platt—Mien dimes is miss in an establish-
wet lon require msos
Sir F. Thesiger was Met of the riety of his
letairruption. It was impeedbie be the iagdaetsea of the
mtablishased Mbe prepaid M pie all tried ee good
a sesdities as they wild have been k Owe less more
tune.
Mr. Baron Plan—Does Mr. Oranges pea, that there
were Wm in a bid, and that Jaws Aadnwe was one of
them I
Mr. M. Cheasbere—He was in the tick ward, and the
nuns who attanisil him caught the cholera.
Mr. Clarkin—Adults as well as children were attacked.
lixaminaties swum—Ale, the 6th of January yes
detail the whole atildhhsest ?
Mitnno—Pankalasly es tho Saturday sad Bosley.
visited bosh the kallby weal and ths manalty. she tho
sabaskunt sod the Icerrosni, wit rid hawk* soles.
ant al Mr Dem&
Mr. M. Clarabors—Now with regard to the
nu,, both silt wed basidtdy, dieg as a mensal man
arriveat any emslaiss with le their being fit for
healthy dielms, or likely to akildies'a health ?
Witness—l *met the de arewded.
Mr. Chesaline—Mist, yew *aim, was the mdatiel
muse of Melon la the ealsbnest ?
Mr. Grainger—The paledpel mum In my cynics was he
overcrowded saki indelsed a rest umber of pencils at
the Wahliaboimi. Pat quiffs.. to the &Him Der set
hates if Mr. Dowel wee peesset. Ismellsed the &him
Delousing to the Maas mien. Saw thou es tit* 18* sit
Jmam.
Mr. Chambin—Will pea tel the jury whit as the
general aisle of ohs shiMreab hal* sal whaler k was
sub as woad Issauses then to tho snack of sham ?
Sir P. Thedgm objected to the question as inapplicable to
the ors Wars thou.
Mr. Bans Platt—l do not me how it can be excluded.
The east of it le 'stalker thing.
Mr. On/am in sower to the question, said that the egs
pearame of the elaikbes generally was unhealthy. Man
of them west walla limbs.
is their They were pot bellied,
and mural bad markt of eruptions on the skin. Oat of
bop assadasd. 42 had the itch. Out oi 65 girl', 34 had the
sum amass. Othnualobinn were otherwise affected. der
end bad week pulse.
Mr. Berea Platt—Was it more than the ordinary week-
's's of the pulse of a child ?
Mr. Grainger—l think it was. I cannot take spas myself
es state the number of children who had this weak pulse.
Mr. Chanabsas—From your examination can yes tied as
edition whether the children were properly or Wimps*
treated with raped to their food ?
Mr. Grainger—My impassion is that they were under-
fed. The symptoms I have mentioned are indications of an
lesasser of food.
Mr. Baron Platt.—Did the itch result from not having
enough to eat?
Mr. Orainger—Not directly from want of food.
To Mr. Cr ashen—Saw the school-room and the dormito-
ries. His impression was that the windows were not sofikent
to afford proper ventilation. Is not able to state the number
of beds which were in the dormitories.
Dr. Arthur Farts crammed by Mr. Clarkson—Has been
is prudes for some years. Is professor at King's Colleye and
physician to the hospital. Accompanied Mr. Grainger in his
last visit to Mr. Droners establishment ; that was on the
28th of Jan. West at the request of the Beard of Health to
ezainioe the children remainieg there.
Mr. Chanson—What u the result of your examination of
the children there at that tine ?
Sir F. Thesiger objected to the question. It had hem
decided that such a question could not be put.
Mr. Chambers—lf there bat been any decision we do ad
know what it in.
Mr. Baron Platt—Certainly not, or I think you would wet
have proceeded in this manner.
Witness, to Mr. Clarkson—Examined the children belong-
ing to the Holborn Union on the 20th of January. There
were 120 presented for examination. The girls were in
better health than the boys. That is always the ease. The
children generally had frail limbs ; they had potbellies, the
fees was pale, and the flesh soft. Two-thirds, or rather
more, had some dimes of the akin, many bad the itch, and
some had had broken chilblains.
Mr. Bares Phis—Did these children differ in appearance
Gem the Whim usually in workhouse, ?
Dr. Purrs—Desidedly.
Mr. Claition—What was the difference?
Dr. Tame—There was a remarkable difference in the con-
ditios of the skin in the first place. The proportion of per-
eons affected in this way was 45 per cent.
To Mr. Bares Platf—Pothellies and thinness are common
to the children in workhouses. The prevalence of itch de-
pended on thy mode of management to which the children
were subjeeted. It is quits possible to patent its octia-
ranee in establishmesta of pauper children.
Mr. Baron Platt—lf a number of children are introdued
into such an establishment it must exist there?
Dr. Fare—lf when they are tent in they are kept in a
separate ward, not allowed to go amongst the other children,
and subjected to proper treatment, the disease would disap-
pear is the course of some days. They should be kept quite
dean.
To Mr. Clarkson—Attributes the prevalence of the disease
in this gestablishment to the neglect of the precautions be had
mentioned. Judges from the condition of the tie',
that the children were not well managed with mond to
iisanlinsos. Thinks that the diet was not suited le An-
dres ; it assisted too much of fluid instead of sold food.
There too much broth is allowed. It swells the belly by its
quantity, and occasions potbellies. Thinks they guild
have meat three times a week. Children who took much
exercise would require it oftener. Thinks that if the chil-
dren had proper diet, both as to quality and quantity, so '
barge a proportion would not be affect2d with pot-bellies and
=easedlimbs ; the skin would be healthier and cleaner, and
set se rough. Attlibetes this condition of the children to
inendleient diet and want of cleanliness.
Mr. Baron Platt—You lay stress on the want of email-
sine, and that formed no part of the learned counsel's
eftemsent.
Dr. Pero—As kr es the skis disease was concerned, he
allithuesi it to wont if oissidinass ; if the cleanliness of the
sinus hal bus atheibil k be did not think the limo
weal haws yressalad to soh an sued. Couldrazgo
%lam as to at untilation of Drosses prinks.
of opinion to the slawastss of** ABMs
smairsmustily sr hod. Thom two eireemsteame weld
semak=shatasee them, and reader ebildres kept dirty and
feed more eamsptible of the effects of
=sa, Syphon hoar, or other iodations diseases.
Cirass-ssaukol by Sir F. Thoriger—First examined the I
Makers union Ohba at the Pres Hospital on the 20th
January. Thee were 120 girls, of whom 34 had the itch or
dupettThe itch might easily be cured in three or four
secluding the patients, and applying proper
Duca Platt—Did you ever know the itch to being on the
Whams—The ink Is a mopes' of aye; sad neglect
as well am dirt, want a yew fad, sal akar tireamonses,
may predispose the trainan- body to an Mark of the design.
A low dist, such as the shildren had been aceseasmed to,
mead nein them men liable to be prostrated by the
sham than hod they bass properly fed.
Mr. T. Carr Juices was the hems surgeon of the Royal
Free Hospital, whoa the Wilma ware brought thither from
Tooting. Ennio& the deans on the 6th at January.
Out of 66 that whom exams 84 bad eruptions on the
skis and six sere Peel, with shlibisine. As to the food sup-
eto them by Diesel, be mall eel speak for the quality ;
ggs craft we eel, judging by ths dietary, suat.
Nor wss the boys' drab, emu assugh.
Orsis.easndeol by Mr. ikkatieis—The roma whit.:
steps were Woad by the malital dame if the Pt's.tal to cur's *kaiak= ear Bab, wee learn they =
pasted that the heed if guardians would have
them to be sews& hem the hospitel, which was sing a
Unigasury swim he ask. And, aereever, the mbar of
thousand alien at the Viso Hospital were se such taken
powifts mint ohs dieters that as far as the itch
um ainermag is Imelda wsroas=l. Thera wars
W miss of auks& et the II wore sena of
'diem eel km issetessubir ;sea modes lisontsas as
the ina mil Ihe thlt at ins and Ike Isms time sms not
pssilmble.
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k us INA lissoglit thus teem Toorkg
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far esswerions. Thsy wee wavand with
Tha tam Ike who they started trontsicaoliftstiog.