The Express.
London, England, 1865-02-25 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS.--FarbAt, FZE, 24.
Lozq Mumma took lb mat ea the woo Lack at
Ire °Week.
BANIINEILLTION TO ATtONNESS AND SOLl-
orroam.

The LORD OHANOILLOR mild be rose for the purpose
of prosodies a bill to mead the law relating to the 111011•
aeration made topaid acseiedad atkse and solleitors. At pelmet thane
gentians were I. adds Iliad rule& for the
work whirls they wen elapieyed te do by their chests, sad
It was Lodi, possibie for either party to depart from them.
fl
en attorney at the pie
time should undertake
the hoe aus of reosiving and disklbsHst smoopt his client's
auditors a large sem of meaey, for a fixed sum for his
recouneratioo, that would be illegel, and such a oontuct
could not be enforced in any court. The charges made
ander the present law wen based upon a most mischievous
soda Take for example • dad—e solicitor was not paid in
proportion to tbs &loaf, can, time, mid the labour required
for that work, bat he =sr for it by the yard, and so
in proportion to the q of wards used woe kis sods
of remuneration. and that la • great degree to the hip
amount of tautology sad verbomily which charaderised all
deeds. la oossequence of the system now le prac-
tice, there was cast are • large and houtirable
body of pnetitisaare a great deal of opprobrium.
allowing
This bill unpaid be give a very andil• remedy pp
etternisa and their climate to eater lato contracts for the
work to be performed. TM bill was so doubt one which
moat be looked at with great care and attentioo, and be felt
gelatine* that be would have the amistance of their lord•
ships, more particularly at kis sable sod liaised friends, in
accomplishing the °Out which be had in view.
The bill wen thee reed • fast time.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
Os the mottos of Lead REDICSDALL 16 private bolls were
read a second time.
The Earl of LONGFORD called 'attentioe to the qui-
Hon of thedirposal of the sewage of Leah* and other
Imp team, sad required what steps the govemenent in-
tended to take with tempest to the recommendations of the
Wad committee of Os House 01 00111111008 which inquired
Into the quake bet enAla
The Earl of MAE' sesationed the result. of expel-
IDISIII whit* be bad amide with lowa sewers and which
went to skew that it woe bother to apply • large amount of
sewage to a dull area than a smell anions& to alaree ore.
Earl GRANVILLE rejoiced that the house bad the ed-
vaatag• of burin two &obi, lords speak cm this subject
who bad not only • theotetiaal boo a prutiod knowledge of
it The answer he bad to give to the noble earl opposite wu
a very simple one. The sable lord who pleaded over
the committee of the House of Comma& sod who dieplayed
gust industry end ability ink with the question. bad
introdoul a bill is this subbut Fe did tot think it
likely that it would ppenrss ia its present shape. The Beene-
office was m aommsniss iou with that noble lord, sad he
trusted that they might spooced in framing a measure which
would be acceptable to 'miliaria.
The bout adjourned at • few minutes put sit

HOUSE OF OOMMONS.—Fircuir, Fax 24.
The art:LW took the chair at 4 Adak.
NEW MEMBER.
Er. WHlMinalt teak the oaths sad his seat for Laocastee.
LIVERPOOL LICENSING BILL
Oa the older for the mooed man( of this bill,
Mr. LAM SON row to move as an 'woodmen, " That
the granting of lipase's for the sale of intoxicatiog liquors
l• a subjegt which ouirld sot at present to be dealt with by
anoridazyrivate bilL" He said it might be considered an extra-
nurse to oppose a bill, but the fact was that this
was an extraordinary bill. Notwithstanding the powerful
ioduances which had been emceed io its favour the last
time it was brought forward it was thrown out by a majo-
rity of 16, and, he hoped that • similar coarse would be
pursued on thipressist occasion. He did not know how it
could be called • private bill, seeing that it dealt with the
taxation of the country, by interfering with the local rates of
an iniportent borough; but he had been isformed that
the clauses having that object must be submitted
to • counnietes of the whole house. The pro-
moters .wen the Licensed Victuallers' Association
of Liverpool, and they stated in their papers
sad speeches that their motive was to decrease, if possible,
the amount of drunkeenen and consequent misery that
prevailed in Liverpool. They complained that 149 new
public-houses bad been flowed at the last ensuing swims,
and that dant% the last four years 345 new licenses had
been greeted. The consequeasie was, that drunkenness
was more rife in Liverpool than in any other town in Est.
land, and unhappily prevailed as much amongst the middle
as the lower dunes of society. It had been stated that
the bill was brought forward in conformity with the re. '
commeudatious of a committee of that house, but be
should state the points in which it agreed and those in
which it differed from the recommendations of that com-
mittee. The bill enacted that there should be • uniform
charge for all lionises for booms selling intoxicating
liquors, putting beer houses and public-houses on the same
footleg. It provided also that permits purchasing intoxi-
cating liquor at an unlicensed house should be liable to
punishment ; and further, that the minimum charge for
a license should be 30i. per annum. These provincios had all
been suggested by the eammittes, and also that in carry-
ing them out the rights sad privileges of existing pub-
limns and beer sellers should be nand. The promoters of
the bill adopted this recommendation, but provided
that the privileges so sacred should sot last more
than 14 years. Differing from the committee they
did not propose any limitation of the time for
selling lipon, they did not recommend the closing of
houses at 11 o'clock, and therefore the house would per-
olive that it was a different scheme io several importest
particulan. The promoters recommended a provision which
was their own. namely, that no house should be licensed
unless it was rated to the poor at the value of 501. a year.
He believed that if this regulation were carried into law it •
would bb beorticial, but the part of the bill which he cos.
indeed most objectionable was that which took away the only
protection that the people had as regarded the ineresmel
these public-houses. At peewit a discretion was
vested in the magistrates as to granting license, I
and QM discretion this bill proposed to take
away. Ie addition, there was a most extraordinary
clause which he could best explain by reading a sentence
from Mr. Booth's pamphlet. The hill proposed to exempt
from its operation all existing pablie.houses for 14 years,
and as the gross amount at present paid for licenses was
30,0001. • year, it followed that if the price were doubled
analog public-houses would have an exemption to the
amount of 30,0001. a year. Mr. Booth called this • " Con.
ciliation Boom," and he (Mr. Lawson) saw no reason why
that Mows should vote •coaciliation boom of 30,000/. a ,
year to the licensed victuallers of Liverpool. The promoters
stated that 300 of the publicans of Liverpool carried on
their business in so disreputable • manner that they (the
promoters) had refused to admit them into their aasociatins ;
and yet, hare an a private bill professing to give sad men
a large annual bonus at the public expense. He objected is
ta4o to a great public question being treated is a private
Mr. /10E.SFALL said that with a few trifling amend-
ments, this bill was identical with its predecessor of 1863.
It was • mistake to suppose that it was supported only by
the licensed victuallers of Liverpool, as • large section of
the magistrates and guerillas' of poor-law unions. including
those of West Derby, the largest aeon in Euglaud, were
also in its favour. He asked the house not to pan the
bill, but to refer it to the committee, where its merits could
be properly investigated.
Mr. W. L FORSTER would vote spinet the second reading,
not because the bill was opposed by licensed victualler gene-
rally, but because he thought that a great public principle
should not be disposed of in • private bill.
Sir G. GREY bad asesetaioed that under present
circumatar.cm, when it was not likely that the influence of
lioenaed victualler would be lees powerful than formerly,
seeing that a general election w.,s approaching, it would be
impossible to pees .general measure of this nature through
parliament, (Hear, boor.) He supported the bill because
In believed it would lead to • general unessore.
Mr. 11.0k:BUCK. appealed to the bome end to the Treesury
bench whether they wen sot doing anything but their
duty in "Howie( • private hill to take the position of •
public measure, and he appealed also to the Speaker
whether this was not really a public bill smuggled in under
the owns of a private bill. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. N EWDEGATE. having supported the object of the
Iwo. members for Liverpool last session, regretted that he
meld cot support them ea the meant occasion. No one
was mere conscious than be was of the evils which oppressed
Liverpool. It was in evidence before a committee that in two
large towns, Liverpool and Wolverhampton. • system of
free trade iu licensing had been tried. He knew that the
system had been attended with the same evils in Wolver-
hampton as in Liverpool, and he could sot support this bill
became he saw clearly that in doling so, according to the
opinion of the HomeSemeary, he should be striking a blow
at the principle of ]cal self-governmeet which had been
found effecituel in every place except those two. (Hear,
hear.) Let the magistrates of Liverpool adopt a system of
subdivisiou of districts ; let them combine and organise as
the magistrates in other counties did, and he Inlieved they
would find that the remedy was I. their own handy.
Lord STANLEY felt very stroogly the objection which had
base raised to this bill os the ground of the introducing a law
for Liverpool different from that which prevailed 'hookers.
(len, hear.) But he the position in which Liverpool was
Maiit was only a choke of evils. He should support the
or two emboss—ln the first pleas because it was sup-
parted by a very large majority of all clams, within the tow.
of Liverpool, and is the next plies became be bad seen
enough of this question to feel that it was impossible for
them to go on in the way they had been going as far the
last few yeses. The thing bad cone to a dead look.
It was no. by any mesas the island rule
that dl licensee were mated without reference
to saythisig exeepe the character of the rams
There was oat party who held that opiate maga=
astiettaiss, but there was also • cossidenale minority who
bead a cookery casket. aid the result wee that one day
Say was • uationty le from of protection and as ameba,
‘ezerat is one or two spasl caws, the deadest were all as
the principle of free bade. That was • state of things width
was sot only sesatidestery but absolutely dieredicablet esti
for which, while the law reashad as it was at proud, be
saw so remedy, beaus both parties was is earnest ia disk
views, neither was iszlised to
they
way, and there was se
wan principle upon which could agree. This state
of May; whit made it a "toss up" whether • sea