The Express.
London, England, 1853-05-02 00:00:00

or isairectly .—(Wartnl3) Ccrtainly n•lt ; car.
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Via pi expect that any sum of money would be paid ?

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pa pea know now ?—I heard it from
where was that ?-111 some passage in some rooms, a day
two se.—jhe witness, after mach pressing, subee-
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go etly
tw mido be tint beard of it that morning, and not a
as
W.) I saw Mr. Elmslie yesterday, but it w
or
shalt my insets: Inises% and did not mention the matter !
th,o Inquiry to him. The rumour about a money arrange.
al. Iltiiolltd tome by Mr. Kennet Temple, a solidi-
tat
tot of Lyme Items, who is in town.
bs, you cspect to get any stoney out of the last Har-
wi:h ;Intern ?—(lnslignantiy): DJ I expect ?—No, sir, I
do sue.
Isither directly nor indirectly ?—Neither one way nor
the other.
:s ~epune for you ? —Nor anyone for me. The letters
mi.. to the it, ctors asking them to vote for Mr. Peacocks'
and ab% Waddington, were, I think, sent by Mr. Elwell*.
.11 cast
induced you to send them? What induced me ?I
Its unease of my legitimate influence for Mr. Peacocke.l
in,i were sent to my tcnat.ts end particular friends.—Arel
these A good many voters at Harwich who oweyou money ?
Sir _lu what time do you allude ? From 1841 to now.
—Sow many voters are there who had loans as voters? I
con,: not tell you so far back as 1841.—How many are
'hire et the present naomeut under money obligations to
„woe soy ; perhaps eight or ten. I think in
one care the money was lent on a barge six or seven years
ego, to one Horlock 5401., and I think I lent a further sum
Pi him. 'elf and his sou of 7.5/. I had their promissory notes.
I lael interest paid on it. Ido not manage these matters
lep.,,f; they are done by Mr. Husk, of Dishopmate-
suest. I have an office in Great Wiechester.street. Haste
has uotbinc to do with the management of my money
do" Ibe interest he sent to me. I don't recollect lend-
the sparrows money. I submit, however, whether I
should be celled on to answer these questions at such a
heath of time. I believe I lent Sparrow money, and I
hose not received the interest fur a long time past. I have
applied t
wo hiss for it. Elwin Edgar has diacharged his
leen by k. I hare not been security to any bank for
any money. I dad not advance John Cottingham 201., or
knew Can, the Conker, had done it, and that I was security.
By Mr. Smith—Did you, Mr. Attwood, make any ar-
rangement for money, or expect any money for your M-
lle, ace at Hai wick at the last election ?—[Emphatically],
Certainly nut. Did you authorise any one to do so ?—No ;
anther directly, nor indirectly.
Ur. Lloyd was then called in and examined, and corro-
borated that part of the evidence of Mr. Peacock., in which
be spoke of his interviews with Mr. Lloyd. Witness re-
mired a communication from Mr. Elwin, to the effect that
Mr: Attwood would not stand, and he (witness) advised Mr.
Attwo.ol, as far as he was entitled to do so, not to stand
Will, tor reasons personal to himself. There were two or
three interviews before the matter could be arranged for
Mr. Peacock. to go down to Harwich. Some time after
(continued the witness) Mr. Emilio told me that there were
certain expenses to be incurred ; and that in the prosecution
of sonic petition about one of the Harwich elections —I
think in what is called the second Harwich petition—there
was a considerable sum unpaid. Mr. Elmalias said he
thought, if Mr. Attwood did not occupy the position
he contemplated, be thought it but reasonable that
any person who had the advantage should take
upon himself these expenses. I then asked Mr.
Ellerin what he thought would be the limit, or the
maiimum, and, if I recollect right, I think he said 1,6001.;
bat afterwards 1 thought it better to tell Mr. Peacecke it
would be 2,00d1., knowing what these sort of estimates were,
for, to tell the honest troth, I did not wish him to entertain
the proposal, Or to accept it. Mr. Peacocke said, so far as
say legitimate execrates went, he would give it considers,
ti" bat he said I will make no promise of any kind, con-
sidering that an understanding was sufficient among gentle-
men; that if he were returned the expenses not exceeding
W. would be takes into consideration. He would not as
mare, but that if be were returned and finally seated, and
there was no petition presented. that then he would take
into consideration whether or not he would pay them to the
latent of 2.000/. I gathered from Mr. Ehnene that he had
set b.:cupid these expenses, and %bathe did not exactly know
to whom to look. I did not ask Mr. Peacocks to entertain
the proposal, thinking that if Mr. Peacocks wished for a
seat in pulisment he did not see why be should not go and
nand on independent grounds altogether.
By Sir. James—Was there either directly or indirectly,
ai far as you are concerned, any barter of tne influence of
Mr. Attwood for the bargain or sale of Harwich ?—No.
I would not be concerned in any practice of the sort,
knowing that there is a penal enactment against it. I
saw Mr. Attwood on the subject.
By the Chairman—Do you know if any sum was paid to
He Crushe on account of expenses incurred on the occa-
sion ?—I think be heard that he had received something on
account, but I don't know of my own knowledge.
The committee then adjourned to this day, when Mr.
Jobs Elunlie is to be examined.