The Express.
London, England, 1851-07-26 00:00:00

TO THE EDITOU O Tat DAILY xrws.

Vienna, July S.
SIN,—I wish to bring before the English public a
case of outrage and injustice, on the part of the Austrian
government, towards a stranger, such as has not often
occurred in Europe. The matter has already been laid
before our government. But it is not a question which
concerns me, the sufferer alone, or my countrymen— the
Americans—it belongs to the free and the just in all lands.
No citizen of a free people—no American or Englishman
can be safe in a country, where such acts are perpetrated.
However, I cannot latter demand justice, than by pre-
senting the facts as simply and plainly as possible.
I hail been travelling for more than a year in various
countries of Europe, studying the manners, character,
and institutions of the people, until at length I
reached Hungary. I experienced no difficulty or moles-
tation here, in a long and interesting journey
by the Danube, through Pest, then up the Thciss, over the
wild and singular l'usztus, near Dcbreeein, until at length
I reached Groswardein, an important military station in
the interior. A few hours after my arrival I went, in
company with a friend, Professor C., to a hotel to dine. I
recollect now that at the little table, where we sat, there
were two gentlemen who left on my mind at the time, I
could hardly tell why, a feeling of mistrust. However, I
thought no more of it, except that, according to an inva-
riable rule which I have observed in public places in
Austria, I joined in no political conversation, until at length
me friend asked me some questions about the Hung Irian
colony, or " Uyhazy's Colony," as we call it, in America.
I said a few words in reply in regard to the soil and cli-
mate, &e., and then something with respect to I:chary's
reputation in our country, and soon after left the table.
In the meantime I mane my visits on my various arquain-
tances, and on the next day was sitting quietly at table in a
dinner party at the house of one of my friend,,, relating a
pleasant story of the Austrian police, when in stalked the
chief of police, with a gendarme, and a warrant for my
arrest, on the charge of my having proclamations with me.
We took the matter very quietly' supposing it was only the
Austrian suspicion, which woulilhe at once removed by the
examination of my papers. The police director sat down
with us, and after coffee we all drove off to my lodgings. A
sentinel was stationed there, and my papers were already
collected in a bundle.

Alter some little farther searching, I rode away in com-
pany with the gendarme to a temporary arrest, as he
said. I ttotioed, however, he drove out of the city, and at
length, as we rattled under the heavy arches of the old
castle, I began to hare a presentiment it might not go so
well with me as I supposed, for I remembered I was in an
Austrian prison, in the heart of Hungary, without friend
or Md.

My gendarme handed me over to two soldiers, and they
to a little officer, the provost of the prison. Ile said at
once he had orders to search me, and without more cere-
mony proceeded to the work. Every possible hole and
corner in my clothes was searched, as if I had been a high-
way robber, and my boots only were spared, on my solemn
assertion that I has nothing concealed. I said nut a word
during it all, though I know nothing more degrading to the
feelings of a free man than such a procedure.
After this, I was led by the provost through a large
room, where were several prisoners, to a smaller room,
dimly lighted by a window, grated on one side mid boarded
up on the other. The place looked very dismal and dirty,
and I asked him " if he had no better quarters ?"
" No,- he said, " I have orders to put you here. You
will have these two gentlemen for company. It will be
part of your experience as a traveller. Gide nada !"
The two " gentlemen " were, the one a common Ilonved,
imprisoned for carrying a false passport; and the other a
Hungarian tailor, sentenced to five months for having a
concealed pistol.

I had not been there long before a friendly voice called
me to the key-hole of the next room, and told me inFrench
" not to be sorrowful, it was alwuj s hard at first ;" and
" Friend, what is the news from our people in France i"
I was obliged to say I was only a traveller, and knew no-
thing about it; whereupon the voice wished me " Good
night," and struck up the " Mars.cillaise" with great
' spirit, for my consolation, and I was left to my own re-
flections. These were gloomy enough. I saw I was treated
with an iudignity which could not belong to a common
ar-
rest. I knew I was there a citizen of the hated, free
na-
tion; completely in the hands of the Austrian authorities.
I remembered how many a hopeful man had entered such
prisons in Austria never to come forth again. However, I
was conscious of no illegal act or word, and I was sure, if
there was justice here, of being freed immediately. To add
to my discomfort was the filthy state of my bed, which was
full of fleas and bugs, so that I could nut sleep at all that
night. As it afterwards appeared on the trial, the
sole causes of this arrest and all this indignity
to a stranger, were the words spoken in the hotel ; and the
fact that I had handed in my passport somewhat late,
though still within the twenty-fours usually allowed. The
two men at the table were members of the " semict police,"
and had at once reported me as an acquaintance ; perhaps
an " emissary of Leyhary."
On the next day, Sunday, May 25th, was my first exami-
nation before a secret military court.
The first questions were mostly uuimportant, as to my
birth-place, profession, then my route of travel in Europe,
Hungary, &e., &c. After this came the question, put by
the examining officer, Major Tafferner, " What are your
objects in Hungary:" I answered ass man not accustomed
to be ashamed of his objects, and as one educated to consider
courts institutions of justice, would answer—freely and
frankly.
" Sir," said I, "I not here, in Hungary, as I ham) been
in other lands, a traveller. My objeets are to study the
habits, character, and especially the old political institutions
of this people."
lie was incredulous. "You are not open and frank, sir.
Tell us candidly what your objects are."—No American
would ever leave the main routes of travel for such a pur-
pose. You arc the first here. And we understand you,
air. We know the sympathy of your countrymen with these
revolutionists Isere.'.

It was in vain I assured hint that Americans travelled in
every land, and that to a thinking man nothing was su in-
teresting as the political institutions of a country. That in
that respect " Ilungary had always been one of the most
original countries in Europe."
lie would hearnothing of it, and I ended the controversy,
by asking for his " proofs of any other object."
lie did not answer, but proce.ileil to a close examination
as to my acquaintance with the Hungarian emigrants.
Fortunately for mc I had met but lbw. Uyhazy I had
seen once in the public streets. Awl General Czetz I had
accidentally met in Hamburg, where he had very politely
given me a note of introduction to a friend of his—a go-
vernment officer, in Pesch. This note, as I had not found
the gentleman, was still in my portfolio. It was 41
the simplest form of introduction. " The Herr vua C.
introduces Mr. —, from New York, to his friend Mr. S."
Yet the prosecuting officer, or " auditor," as he is crlltsl,
at once discovered a conspiracy.
" Sir, we understand the wort signs and pass words of
your democratic committee. You hide a dangerous piot
under the simplest words. This has another meaning '
I laughed at such a magnifying of a trifle, and assured
him I had a dozen such in my portfolio "It is the cum-
monist thing in the world to write such formal introduc-
tions."

" Thera is nothing to laugh at," aaid ho. " This is a
most serious matter fur you. We can prove that you are
engaged in a wide conspiracy. We can show that every
acquaintance of yours has some connexion among the cmi•
grants in America. Your object is discovered, sir, is this
land

Iwas startled at such an assuming at once of the guilt
of the accused in a judicial examination. Ile spoke of
" proofs too." All that I had ever read of the falseness of
Austrian secret trials Hashed across my mind. lle bad
suborned witnesses, perhaps! I saw that I was in much
more danger than I had supposed, and that I must be on
my guard.
" Sir," said I, " I cannot imagine how such a •uspieion
can have arisen against me. lam travelling here with a
passport from my government; I have a personal recom-
mendation from the American ambassador himself at
Vienna. My whole course of action has not been that of
an intriguer or conspirator; it has been open, public. I
have visited the principal men of all parties. And these
1 letters cf introduction will be found to be to men far above
all suspicion of intrigue or conspiracy. Ido nut remember
a single acquaintance who has relatives in America."
lie replied with his usual shrug of incredulity, and then
questioned me as to a visit I had made to a genticman in
the neighbourhood. The gent:eman himself was not Sus- I
pected by government, but his brother is a distingukhed
revolutionist, now residing in London. In going away he
had given me his card, saying 1 could present that un ;
introduction to his brother. Being in a hurry, I wrote
down the London address in pencil on the curd.

" What does this card mean ? It is not a common card ;
for it has these marks upon it. It is not a card of introduc-
tion, for nothing is said of introduction. Confess, sir, you
have a secret connexion with that rebel. What are your
instructions for him ?"

1 explained it, and said thatl designed to visit Mr. 8., as a
mark of gratitude for the hospitality of his family. And,
further, that a card of introduction to him could 'be consi-
dered no crime, when the gentleman himself here had been
allowed by government to go to England to visit his
brother. _

The auditor was not satisfied, but passed on to another
point, that I had caUed upon certain persons who had been
oomprom6ed in the revolution.
I replied that that could not be considered an offence in a
stranger so long after the event. "I 3 sides," said I, " I
have also visited quite as many of the other parties, even the
government officials. And my letters are to the principal
men of all parties."
"Oh ! we understand that !" was his reply. " That is
I your screen !"
The last point against rue was my having in my possession
• pamphlet and a history (Dr. Schutte's) on the Hungarian
aide -forbidden works. . _

ThMetinithe;rriiings you have come into the country
to distribute. These are the inflammatory work,,., you
would scatter among the pmple!" said the auditor ill.
Imost Amy manner.
" Sir, said I, " the possession of forbidden works is con-
sidered is no land an offence in a stranger. 'You will no-
tice, too, that the pamphlet is an old printed work of VHS
I (by Pulaki), and the history, half of it mere statistics of
Hungary. Such works as these are the very last an mi.-
: sary would carry with him. If they had been proclaim.
rtions or new works, it would have been quite another
matter ! Besides they do not even certainly show ay poll,-

tical sca'i.ucut•, 114 I can prove that I have also read world
in Vienn t nn the other side ! "

• Th tt Wai way natural, in an educated man," said he.
I v •ntitud to ask " What would nut be suspicious
in ntr tv..:: r, in the eyes of the Au-trian atithuriti,,s ? It
visiting men of the Ilutrrarian party; and
only a sham, visiting those of the other! It was dangerous
to read book• on one side, and proved nothing good if one
read them on the other! "

lam not here to argue," was the answer. I saw that
the case wag going hard with me, and I asked if l could
appeal to my former character. I was well acquainted
with tho American embassies in London, Berlin, and
Vienna ; and they could testify I was no emissary, nor at
all engaged in such matters.
" Mein Ilerr," said he with his most earnest tone,
that has nothing to do with this c'-e. 'Co-day I ant a
true servant of my Kaiser. But God only knows into what
conspiracies 1 may be tempted to-morrow. We hare bad
such experience as to show us that no purity of character is
a surety against being entangled into treasonable efforts.
You may make it a part of your religion to spread a revo-
lution.”

I could not hut acknowledge the truth of what ho said.
thought thought it hardly spoke very well fur his own
party.
- .

Si'on after this my accusation was read, to this effect
" You are an emissary of Uyhazy and Czetz. :Lad a member
of the democratic committee, here in Hungary to spread
revolutionary movements."
I need not say that Messrs. Uyhazy and Crete, as well
as the democratic committee," will be quite us much
surprised at the accusation as I was.

I call upon every Englishman, every man who loves and
reverences law and justice, everywhere, to observe how
thi4 trial was conducted. here was I, a stranger, without
advocate or friend, without knowing the siccussttion, sum-
moned haunt a secret court, to defend my liberty, perhaps
my life in a foreign language—and more than this —the
tricks, the cunning, the deception, practised in this and
the succeeding examinations to entangle me, I cannot in
any way adequately describe. For instance, one morning as
I entered, the auditor turned over his papers in a careless
way, and asked me, half unconsciously, " Where is that
letter front I...yhazy ?" I replied, in mdignation at such
a mean trick, after all my assertions " Oh, I beg your
pardon. I mean the letter from Czetz ?"

Another time, he informed me that he had testimony
from one of the family of the B.'s, ir. Nagy Maria, of whom
I have spoken above, that I had known Mr. E. B. in
London.

" Sir," said I, " I do not believe you have such testi-
mony. Thiv family i* well known in Hungary us a most
honourable family. They could not give such evidence.
I have never seen Mr. 13.`' He reiterated it with the ob-
ject of making me confew. But when the testimony came
up, it proved to be a " blunder he had made in the Hunga-
rian words."

From a law packet of letters of introduction, tho only
one from which he could twist anything against me was a
letter from the Countess 8., in Pesth—a lady well known
even in England—to a friend in Groswardein, wherein I
was spoken of as a "zurerlo,siger onenscli"—a " reliable
man." Ore: this the auditor detlaimed, in his most spi-
rited style—l laughed at once, for it brought over my
mind, irresistibly, the declamations of Serjeant li., over
Pickwick's dinner-order to his landlady, iu the celebrated
case of Barden r. Pickwick."

" There is no occasion to laugh, sir. This is a most
serious: matter. It implies you and the Countess B. have
sum; hi nn understanding. These are important words
in your circumstances. Explain them." I was obliged to
confess my inability to explain them, except us the world-
! wiese expression in letters of introduction.
However, I have followed through this procedure of in-
justice and cunning long enough. On such a trial us this„
on such prook Englishmen, was a tree citizen, travelling
under the passport uf his government, thrown into a dun-
geon, and treated like a felon, fur four weeks.
It will be noticed, nu word or writing of mine, ofa revolu-
ionarv, or even political character, is brought up againstme.
The !woofs are such as might lie against any traveller. A let-
ter of introduction front au emigrant, a card from a Hunga-
rian to a relative among the fugitives, visits to a few of the
old revolutionary party, and the possession of one or two
political works, advocating the Hungarian side,
After an investigation, through all Austria, of my ac-
quaintances, nor a word or act of mine is adduced of even.
asuspieious character, much less of a revolutionary.
Yet still, week after week, was 1 held in that loathsome
prison. The most beautiful month of the year passed
as I lay in that weary, dull imprisonment, without friend
or apparent hope. And lam persuaded I might have been
lyieg there still, if it had nut been fur an English traveller
accidentally in Ilungary. As soon as he heard of it, Ito
said •• It was as much his concern as the American's ! No
Englishman was safe where such things could happen "•
And though he had intended to remain several days in
Ilungary, he hurried right off to Vienna, and with a true
English heartiness did not leave the matter till it was be-
' fore the embassy.
He is a stranger to me, but if these lines ever meet his
eye let him take a hearty "Goad's Missing •' from the lima
he so generously aided in his misfortune.
IMr. M'eurtly, the American ambassador in Vienna. a
personal friend to myself, at once took the matter up in a
manner worthy of the representative. of a great nation.
And by his repeated and most spirited appeals was I it
I length silserated, after 10 days of dale imprisonment and
five days of arrest in l'esth. .

Such a ntoi:kery of justiee—such an open unprovoked
assault on the rights of a free man—needy no further com-
ment. I ie.tAu it fur the judgment of the world. C. 1.. li.

ELECITON OF A COMMON COUNCILMAN—WARD OF
CRIPPLY.II4TE WlTUOUT.—Yesturtlay a wardmote was held
j at the Ward schools, Red Cross-street, Cripplegate, for Site
purpose of electing a representative to the Court of Commit
j Council. in the room of Mr. John Seeley, deemed, Thomas
j Challis, Esq.. alderman of the ward, in the chair. Mr.
I Pritchard, in a brief speech, proposed Mr. John Eyke, eiti-
len and spcetaclemaker, as a fit arid proµ•r person to re-
present the ward in the Court of Common Council, having
resided 31) years iu the ward, and being well known as a
firm supporter of all liberal measures. The motion having
been aeconded, and no other candidate apµ•aring, Mr.
Eyke woo declared duly elected, and briefly returned
thanks for the honour conferred upon hint.
FATAI. ACCIDENT ON TIIE SoCTII WEKTERN
RAlLWAT.—Yesterday morning the passengers travelling
by the 7.3.7 r u.m. down train from Waterloo-road tei Mins
were most painfully excited by a deplorable occurrent,,
j terminating in the death of a fellow-creature. The train left
the terminus at its usual time and was to stop at Vauxhall
station, when just as it was emerging from the platihritt,
j man named John Samuel Jelfe, who was engaged its a rope
I man, having to proceed to Vauxhall, jumped on to the step
at the side of the carriages, for the purpose of
riding in that manner to the next station. Several per-
sona who, raw him (ruin the platform beckoned
hint to come down, but whether he was unable,
front the speed the engine was going at, or that
he consid. red himself perfectly safe, is unknown, but the
moment the train reached the arch thrown over the West-
minster-bridge-mad, the boor fellow was forced against the
walls with suet, violence that he was nearly fiattenml, and
was afterwards jerked °tithe carriage stop, end, falling on
the metals, the wheels of the hindermost carriages passed
over his chest. He was immediately picked up, when blood
was found oozing from his mouth, ears, and nose. lie was
quickly removed to the terminus, when it was found that
life was quite extinct. The orders issued by the company
forbid their servant* on any pretence whatever to ride out-
side the carriages.

TUE NEW HOUSE or Commoss has been remodelled.
and is now completed, ready fur occupation. The acoustic
effect of the changes has been put partially tried as yet.
The ceiling has been brought down 5 or 6 feet in the centre,
and, instead of being flat over the whole CILIIIIIIi,C, us before,
is sloped down on all sides. The upper half of the windows.
which formerly had:a central transom, is thereby put out of
sight, and, as this lessened the light considerably, the cils
have been cut down about a foot. The side galleries have
, been made wider, and are coved beneath, to throw coat the
I sound (see should not advise speakers to stand under them,
nevertheless). A very considerable increase of accommoda-
tion has been gained in the division lobbies by the addition
of one large and two small oriels. The gallery for the public
has been enlarged, and accommodation is now afforded fur
about 160 members. Retiring rooms, too, have been pro-
vided above the division rooms. Thu reporters' gallery, itt
the Speaker's end, is so arranged, temporarily, that each
reporter has a separate stall, with a door at his back :
that he it able to come and go rapidly, without disturb-
ing any other. They have a private staircase and tuo
retiring rooms, with desks, where they may arrange their
notes or refer to books and papers. The ventilation :mil
warming of the house is, as our readers know, smiler thi•
direction of Dr. Reid. The Speaker has a private hot-water
plate in the house for Isis feet, sad so have the ministers
and leaders of the opposition. Minton's men are busily at
work laying the tile pavements throughout the building.
—/teti

IMPROVEMENTS IN PARlx.—One of the principal
changes which the Municipal Council of Paris has deter-
mined to effect in the Holies, by means of the improvements
about to he entered on, is to enlarge their present superficial
extent by 50 feet every way. The portion covered in will lit
then 40,856 metres. Six wide passages, or rather streets, ,u
I place of Rye, MI at the present time, are to run across it,
with two streets at the end, 45 feet in width. The whole
• length of the Ilalles will be 347 metres, and the conveniences
other eerareciut3l,atioln w
In
oridl l be e
rto suchle. antshneoctb
nnces of matchedfirethein pillarsivn
and doors are to he of cast-iron, and the flags of granitt
The cost of bare construction will not be more than.
12,000,0 Afr.; the paving, distribution of water, and sewer-
age will cost 1,000,000 fr. more; and the expropriation of
18,000 metres of ground will cost about 18,000,000 fr. In
addition, the widening of the Rue St. Denis to the Place du
Chatelet, through an extent of about' ,400 metres will cost
2,500,000 fr. ; the cuttin r through the Rue St. Opportune to
a width of 15 metro'. 1,800,000 fr.; the widening of the Rue
des Dethargeun and of the Rue des Fourreurs, the former
to 21 metres, and the latter to 15, 720,000 fr.; and lastly,
the widening of the Rues Tirechappe, de la Tonnellerie,
Estienne, and [Touchier, 980,000 fr. The repayment of the
iloan of 50,000,000 fr., which the city of Pans so about to
contract for these great works, as well for the continuation
of the Rue de Rivoli, will commence in 1859, and terminate
in 1870. Until this latter period the present octroi duties
are. to be maintained. A treaty is to be with the
Bank of France for a temporary lean of 20,80070 d I ofri to be
re-imbursed when the loan of 50,000.000f1• shall he" been
extracted.

IMPERLIL P.tRLIAMENT.
HOUSE or LORDS.—Fuoar, JOLT 23.
The Luau Caaticou.our took his mat at 5 o'clock.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
gCCUMIAIITICAL Tin M BILL.—B 7 the
Rent or LGNSDALE. from a place not heard . the Duke
or ARGYLL. from places in Scotland; the Earl of EL-
LESMERE. from Averal places ; and the Earl of ENNIS-
KILLEN. from 4 place in slier. in favour of this hill.
IN FULUITZD Kowa DI:TY BILL.—By the Duke of
ARGYLL, from Glasgow, against this hill
LIE PAL.l4ta. —By 711 c Duke of ARGYLL,
from tV.otmlnder ; the Eari of ST. GERMANS. !ten :n-
-habitants of W.atminster. and a place to Cornwell and
the Earl MALMESBURY. from itocliport, in famine •
of the retention of the Crystal PaLECC.
EPISCOPAL CAPITULtit EST.ITES BILL
AMENDMENT Y 0..) HILL.
Oa 'he motion of the Erri of CARLISLE, this WE woo
read a .erond time.
.:(.001ONS INewsrßE 'No. 2) BILL.
Tll, '5:11 w Also read a wend dale.
UN LAWFUL OATHS IRELAND) RILL—TURN-
NEE ROADS ;IRELAND) BILL. LUNATIC
ASYLUMS 'IRELAND)
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reported he house.
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+marl. by the bill .t was entered 'hat certain particular
'nets oh 4 emeemeete „en, ..„,iyiee end neje and. of had eften :heard .1 remarked. that sours .4 the wont laws ...reeti " be left at. which was 'greed to.
proposed published under Ike eircumstances would follow which were Mode were made dottier .° haat Ehhhiad and The Duke .f AIIOYLL pposed 4 =madma. the
Ter". in
remelt. and 1* ,eprehended That hen ,hoverer. ;u Ireland. If that was *rue with regard to as erdsnary state I effect of which was •he •ioung away with the power ut in-
t etua tome.,
.e. e eii. weedee eehethiend thread. of things. 3 was much mere true in e cue of ttus to i formers to prosecute. ,7xpreesing his disbeliet that the
With 'n the •tuestion 4/ •o ewerewianotohe. tee KO' when the rue .4 Irelasdiliffered so much frouthae of Eng. lecentsk prelates would disobey the proposed act.
see • week e ee• i,„ eel s
een :nee n.i.e by law to in et. land. In Finglawl 'he Meat esaionte were Protemaa'al: la I The Lord CHANCELLOR defended the retaining the
a•h • • ,nh tad eon mode elluered ev Ireland they were •-afterlin. This 411 tweet Ire tividesi I additions which had limn made to the :resentment SelL Ile
. i
ion'terioaansn;.. 4 tad" 'he onnele in which .t liad 'Well into "Y° earn. prospective and retreePeetlee• It woe with i :militated that mme 4 the words introduced ..! Me •.ther
earned en. he , headed. was let inlawful toy say regard 'o the retempeenve uan that :ill lied_ to eel(-- their i hoses •• tooled :Lily," 'tat contended •hat they made no
ittcuteen. Ile armaidered that the preamble was actual 4iffercuce in the character ef the measure.
deel .4 'bat dl. .r ray anythine ,n the .tatute of !tantalite*,tteauun.
Ric :I. That was ton meter -n lie euestion .n •ho ,'t • leriaratton .gaeust Me .egaitity •.t ordinations and The Earls .4 ELLESMERE arid ELLENDOROUGII
nurse,. tout notch must .lepend ...al the •tune. Me eceamon. marriages. Were 'hey quite sere how courts 4 law spoke Wordy.ietiost the
„chum..
any „chum...
r et Me 4erutsent. en tar as ,t Loncerneu •he would interpret the set= Ile :houghs They .Itoda ""a I The Duke et NEWP.ASTLE protested against •.he eon-
pommies document entered to in tee MIL .t was Weriareo- nuke it ea to ensure the aiterpretatioa lint upon it by the I drat of government ..0 retaining to the bill words .4 which
that melt 4 .locamest was enlawine tad 41 n the same. tweet ead :ranted ieed 'et 'he eeeteetei They mettle get I they wee ashamed. merely for the vale •.t
.eroding , „eel.
-en . enet ..,Leie she same rig, With regard ...me_ rid 4 the •lieleuety ey nuking the et not retrospective.
I sloe with the ileum: 4 ..'ommons at the iwriod of the
the, oiestees with reternme to which all had enured 4 end yet .cave 'tor ail stringent. If the •,,,ii were .applied t umiak.
mate i sheet 'one are. from the noble lord. who .raked wee- to itel4llltt 45 it iteW staid it veined ..reate e new embolic I Earl GREY said 'hat the words et question nude 710
thoe_entee ?inns hem, ikeinyen innjornal end .al-o'er- questwo. then Ordatillie WOlitiai revenger the .urnatiot, t I mum,
,Leyereeee e the working of the bill, and. looking
versa en •tie eine interefeet would 'w _nutty et i suss which ferment' - meted. sod :f this 411 pawed ,a 31 I it' 'at the 'one 4 •hc House if eennmons. there was e enoLc
,heneanese . in rut menet the incest tell read, no Liter. sent shape ee thowen the Inshought to .untate. if they eel !
interest in avoiding further ascension there.
acne ei •he lew whatever . aidis to the feet nailer the 'w .0 ..oatutatiettal meatier. ',nth' .t 0" "Tested. `et I -titer e tew words from the Earl of trIAL.MESHrIeT.
Waste ..t Richard Ile steed riot tell the nobly ..usd, with las I tvuurt not .rt'r,lP ',Flag t word with respect to •01eiouteme I The amendment wee put, add their lordship &mine
lent -nuesal•sis.•hat it would ..all remain. relations. It there !Lad 'wen .a Pope a nuncio lire tbisle 1 Th. number. were .
T r.mE
lewd yosii. -. I. 4 mis ...it ,n mintier date of
• • noun nneht ~arc 'Weis enclose. The establishment I for the clause
*twin as .o 'he Inuit open whet er eluedy +raked to... Main 4 this heenirehT, end the 44tatiant which had I For the amendment eel-44
infernsatent . 'he • avian-mina et Me noble tad :earned :oed seniatede& had ...,"" a !mat =ail,. t,_lume___,,t°r 1 The clause was then agreed to.
wee. irreereer. -uteriesit ter !us Len eloutenettei pansome. 'he eeetleillea 'Lee natural PM witch eeewe" 1 Lord eIONTEAOLE mid that he would bring forward
rhe r,.0.1.• emit Men emended '0 more e `hat it hie :0 in- etteitalit them was increased. and whatever didleaitl. on the thud reading the clause of which Ws had oven
.tremors or me , roatititnect 'be whose femme, in the Rene. Mere ma rkt have ,men in Mau •Altailitilif ;Carr, of hostler. , „mice,.
.rotas Nth. twumptien 41. m inert ~ . nue to exempt 'rusts tad ,Moiuneent• 'ma meeeiera,.
_i'i! aariabed t cad at, Viscount CANNING wished to know whether. under the
Ifeunit !non •hr. eperatein 4 •he eaid eill. ' If he eel ,tot this moment lie 'veered that e nomen 'atauat is taut" ' tend clause, the archbishops and eishope of pretended -taw
thin, • his .i mut oworitiut .juastion. Ise ...aid red peen it lend er ennead aught look .0 vain to 411 returned to par ! ,vied.
.f they prefixed the „He .. mom= „tinge, -•
•ei their .emereee remounts. Ile regretted that religious liantent eefore their tithe, Ire exempt from the penalty of 1001.
treang .boatei .ace ..ern =ten op with 'he question et .ul, Viscount , eeNNING was Ily no means monied with , The mimes of LANSDOWNE -aid that if the enlaces
toe lie .stied •ri 'awns* it es i -lure matter et law. The the way 111 witch 'be lewd 'lieueellet .ad' hdeinailted ''a 1.4 the Roman churee had 4/led themselves Rosati eattio-
MU had 'to 'retiring ea the sysod et 'llene" ..r en minute dispose it the ircument 4 Lord elunteagle :n reward to.
, lie :e
wade or eisbops. as the .ase aught be. .t would
estalaiehmente. eel would 'W Altogether in imeku and .n- 'he diterlerenee 4 the 141 with there nnui meow" '. '-
have made 41 Me eifference in the public.
operome on...in, When •he ~..a.p. ..t lie line the Remise •celesiesties. lie also saw at injustice in the I rise., ~.t.NN/Na wmplain,wi tb.,, '.lea „lucid= had
eltureh onspieined "hat they had not 'morn ,on. mode in which penalties were to lie indicted. But he must ,Leek en...erne
sumo ewer the Engliet Mersin! presented 'heir twlectaanY "pp re the :attraction :,t the committee, es lie ,tot
Eari eiltEY believed that the bill AI it stood would not
athireei • o Me queen. epos the subject ~f papal geoid nut consent to unction the reeociutiou ~t.d;fe difference ,
touch .uty person raking a title mantling to the form ;n the
eiteresoon, the errhunhop 4 i'4hteentu7 ".pli,,i .setween the ...elite ..f the supremacy 4 the Crown in Eng- Lk-quests .n.t. Pranteally. he relieved the eel .eould make
the • ti. eeneet. eel eet emend to Inland: nit .t. -iee, land. ind in Ireland. uthougn tie eould aut perreive •hat tne •ho eeetiee whatever th „net to ,he enety ,ill item=
intent. iMpownlee 'o Melte penal •maetasents founded auerellnaerit the Crawl' tarithat'atiatlT wiiailaiaaatted by . esthetic at assuming titles in Ireland.
net 4 partiewer effence. ran extend them to i emote!. the ;meal sees. If lie eolud 'reeve •liat the rioverninent ; ViscOliat CANNING mid his question had not been in-
where +eh Menke 4i4 aunt .1134. In .rely noses the Inin had in . arnest :mention ,it :asainit the hill smogent .n. swered. lie asked whether Roman catholic preeites. who, at
esthetic • Mann .4.1 MOT` tree from Me -berth ,f i :eine Its eperations in Ireland. tie rontesed lie would be strongly' e isomer rime, tied !se. allowed , parliament .0
...me ,
then say ester church m Europe 'soul the =bitten •4 inclined to support •he instruction to the eoreauttce ter • tele', would now he allowed to emcee them without :le .
the re, east the .ionernenee . 4 'he sanhereh .fitmideed iliclUdiair Ireland !ruin the .011; tint to spite 4 what id. cueing the „neity ,if 100 i.
smug impel? into Ireland. rh, ...t. set lnetir 'raced Minn tram the aohi, sad :earned Oil ele the wwoleacer - Eel quEy I)ser,•ed 'hat (tit noble friend had mul that
the enter! 4 the Into "honk, mg ..ontenued that the lie moneyed that ',hut taeleilire would not 're enforceu if in the tint instance these persons bah called themselves I
saw'aPPliCal°lo'we ountriew• did 'hat ,aithet..7l, went 'a 'hate 'wiaittT• 4ad ander 'hal iniPrv"*" • - Homan catholic" archbishops or bishops it would
had
it would 'we •dancerout •,, ...stead 'he pretested Leer
to .at .howl 'TWIN! the natllictliaL made .41 the difference :n the public feeling. If they had
Innate Ile 'hen enwerded to .now .1241 t .t was riresniary ' Lord ORAN wowril Amoy eontroverted Lord Mont-
gone a step further end ;lad taken the form et the anima
that the Milian athreic eutlaupri should• to do •-ertaan tune 4 new AS to the effect of this income Spun -.untied
.bet it would he„ ell en getter. 1
level wee nut eoly min Moe names. 'rot eppend the names rates. .eserting that a NUN, 'lend hie eharacter. not , Viscount cANNINO was sorry to give their lordships se i
ot 'heir son. Ind •het 'hey lad 'seen reconused ..1 -he (tom any rescnpt, hut from has comierratioce Ills "Pilau!' :much trouble. hut he' had not yet obtained an answer to his
titles •4 Me+ sees ey mccesive •overnments •.
.ea 4 ..AirTnt .es that et. Pence
the 'w Prmeuted• question. which he had put es ?booty es he could. lie I
the eine ef the feurer: •f Ileeiford. who was eird except ender the second section et the Act. end lie eould . should like to have ie answered ea lerel.teeon„.
lieutenant 4 !wield Et 1 ele. it,„.. rather see roe valid reason tor excluding Ireland `tom its operation. Lord eItANWORTII mel if he was ippeeled to he
lie .mmeni en, ine enee ie. .4 for the oar.. the !listen of OeSORY held that by excluding Ireland „owe eiey say that so taal as hie opinion -vent J. in the
pew mt• i'arrrna •he mew-that was proved in the 'sue , from the operation et the MU, they would lie proclaiming • late creations the put.. .t.od „relied the eeree ~ to
.4 the :ate lewd . %anneal:h. ['tort '.sad else, 'me more that .to a 'ureatil ;ewer that lai was at liberty to 'wile" hat set of catholic " it would have :made a great difference. lin
tti ie
new +canon. :weed eastern :ctien to their rneeeteve tine , aggernion at ene pert et his realm II I
' - ._.,--* -ear' Isar,'
~_...e `w ' did riot think that now the prefix would exempt :bemire=
Mine entreating eisentbances. flue was .i ',ennui ate noble loed Lod Mootaode) hoo lurraeti made the .slhis- . the ~ tn. of the inn.
:end dlnshen •he emeriti lee entered such en set to Ito' 0406 that Injure they eould ague to !us amendment they . ••
, iscount C.LININti hail nothing to say farther than it
eteine •h,..4„,..enineet !see „peened their minim, for , must overthrow •he union of the two' hurehes. F,.r this would have been mon eetieteetoey to hen hat the „pinion
-ter. ,astoral .ettens mil in -se .netence !tad had sach a , hedhl watt:wee 'bee would 1* prepared. • Rear; ilia "int' 'of the noble and : ed lord 4/ the woolseck.
document reprinted at the public expense,
:new, ship then • ntereat into ea ecelesuutteat ersniment. :o 'how , .
rile Earl 4 *VT. tiER.M.ANS said he would more the
hear. Ile, inight 'leered upon it that. if they pseud , tint. in 'meantime to the "Lanni .4 he Catholics. the '-stay- .
oniusion et the third clause. on the ;nomad that the .',ooh
this nU. boy
...uid .w ',wading "a :he merge .4- a i limbed rhumb .0 England del Ireland win the .egotteme : biehope
prirepter. No net 4 sir ,ailing
dad 10.1111 .0 nitwit the I aliCeesenr of the uteteat rhttstiaa . hutch. were allowed to du that which was denied to the
lush Roman esthetic prelates.
etieewt 4 'swealalnt is 4,4 Placate i eountre ender in in- : 'Die Earl •.1 eT. I iEIteIANS. who was imperfect!!' 'lle Duke of .titGYLL mid that the 'went had en un-
tees,,t. ,i‘t • hat was whaat tbe tell wow,* .to with regard to I heard• was not divined to resent the ;earning :tad AMU. doubted nem to prohibit the titles .a 'Toth Baas. but the
Ireieuu. fko wee i startliwr wsertion. .ut ;w was pre- I racy 4 the new taken 'my the right rev. ',relate. that the . ,ame rrasoas rid •oet apply to the Atotek biekope end the
pond to ;'rune ,t, Ii ,pried that :now itenn,E4 ,ernsprotestant church,rt Ireland was the Ancient churns. With , /floe cathode bishop.
wdd were
,ile'ots,'iu with the preeeteet eeimpree . the age 1 Mat ehurch they !aid within; to 4o: eut. how. ,
ei re lot ueu neS : Int 'hat *he rest were. ieeT that tight tie. he establiseed church in Ireland we. not ! The Rue of eT. i :ERMA-els .lid not press Lis amend-
client anti the anises iit •he bill were then agreed to.
.sad eeeid • owe withal the scope '1 ;Ms ice :ei Me .hutch ef the tnajonty 4 :he people. ,!fear.: fhe 1 Thew, ~weiaa„., ii. cad adjourned , a
,itienn to
chat ten :roue 'roe pieced .n e Wee:rent position !rem sees of the established thumb were real sees, end if env - ee „eel ee miiiiiie "
the .thee had. Now. with respect :o the real 4.1.• the ere- . :emus usainned 'he title, of those sers they would he .lausit !"-
nos were cwt .lay usatepe .sit ,-iron apustOlir with •-ple- .21 Alciral act. hut there were ten sees in Ireland which •
ivpsa omen. said .n that capacity "bee Wile gat AareCled . 'lid not sclung to the established "Muth, aad if they ten-
et, .he ,fa. 1;,„ oath respect 'e :be ,eetehded sees the ,de red awl .and volt vertaill Jet, of Roman catholic limbo!),
...ens. entreenet en„h , rested om ',Lemon, emeenee •oh amount et the :authority ender which they were done. it
• pecopai sowers epee the iriaaep. It, then. they pro. I followed that • eller. .ets which were unchaste to the our.
nouared • bet eoeutunt illegal .sad coul. Men tonowed oat vise of 'he Itoman .attiolic religion would be null Aid void
rear 'hot :or:reuse et :he prelate . temtoria ; nnarlictia also. Ile tout an opposite view 4 the case to that of Lora
net •he ilestelt/ttott ,•t 'us .hiatopal , Warier. la tact, it Craaworth. end •-tted eutleanttes to show thin the recognised
entirely ,leprinel him 4 it A tee es en set et 'weeniest rate 4 law would sanction Al indictment ender the tint
mute ,10. 4/4 thus it put et mace en nil to Ito •.rdinauus parties 4 the proposed et. lie thought that the house
of enema, to their magnums to waences, to the . winery, , we. proceeding eery !tastily with a 101 l of pains and penel•
tion of Ames wt wonhip, to the eowarnatiee 4 the young., ties mean* a lame body of the catholic •relesiaetios in
mil •he like. gamier .4 manage and end rights mule ltenete The pneciple ef the bill .to which he was op.
.tepead loon the validity ,rt the ,•neste orders ey whom posed) had heen Armed try the :cause. and :he question
the .eretsoatr wee performed. and • heretorr what = Wee therefore :hutted. He lied nem much • onseleration
nght wedthey to -tribe unit e law at tee homes i to the subject. the result of which was that, neat as was
relimon the inconvenience , 4 recognising a different etandard of value
floe LORD CIIANC'ELLOR mid •Lat ail wtritual Mg he the aspens:my in the two eountries. the ',alnico et evils
•Lene ev a Ileum canine Miaow weuel, .0 late of the bell, indined him to support the present motion. • n Account et
lie Perfectly eine the dame which the proseedeun certain to be taken ender
Lord NIONTEAti LE begged •o submit withinne resent this lell would ~ladle throughout Ireland.
that`us nets+ .sat earned !mod ,dlew tiot/tuag about I
it. The Duke •tt •taLITU. said that the number .if persons
A When Roman 'Mahe r.ithor was econatersted the tint who might be affected Sy this lee ought mot to he eine-
m/Iv in the . enmity was iota spintual .sots It eontineneed 1 Mend in 'e-risinguponI Aueilttob et enticed*. lie
with the luestion. //oectil •wsotaatt,a .Ipastuarteal • I would not have supported 4 hull which tended to interfere
What teilewrei WWI tounesd man 'he tlanriat.as .Iptataai- I with the purely spiritual rights' mdinduals. -and he took
'

winch declared to'he .rid. .tad was lierenle
:maid. Adam..ticun spustoth: were .appointed by :earn
Iron Hoene. dui were •11, vetoer under qui set. the
otneet •t such wee arm/orate 'he old 4tatittes. Woes
ease. • I winch :us noble :turned Thud ,the Lord Chase
ostler had made .o much. hut wench !Lid ',ern treated .0
01 au =portant, by the on-Chancellor Led Lyndhurst).
was spresaly unmet vicars ipOstolie. ti.. • hen. the real,
wee were prohabited by the Relief .let. the pretended wee
by the init. sad As Titan .Lpou.olie by the revival of the I
oM Austen Surely. each an snack upon the echelons I
liberties of a °matey had never been -unwind. Even the
Oland Ludt, tea the Inuit Unmans Assuivataun had nut read

. .
Itb 41111 d upon lus ..onetction that none of the malts Ap-
prehended ity Lord Manual:le could sane rrs ;Wring the
ineassze. Not "ale oturht not (,eland to !,e .-zempteti from
it. but d was .peetally reqtureti :0 that ,rountry, where
the mamma influence of :he catholic reliirtun was most
deaorertme. and where its professors were most in'e-
aniptllolll.
The Marquis of CL. NRIC.IRDE ,amid impatiens, for
• division) '10f• testimony to the .-harseter .I.rehbishop
Kerrey, who had been "suers( times referred to in the
cause of the debate .ss one who ought be found in opposi-
ties to the proposed law.
The Earl of WICKLOW • '

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FRIDAT, Any 23.
The Ser..= took the chair at a quarter attar 12 o'cloeit.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The *tt. .todzeirt .utd t4nebee Railway Bill was read t
third ame ond
flu I.lrown'i Cate MR and :he Dean end 'hapter
W..antinster's Estate Bill, were read -econd time.
rho Lords' Amendments to the follosntur 'oils were -on-
wined mil agreed to —Mumma-1•...nm T,tetrraph Com.
pony hill and the Msnettester Improvement
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PItESENTED.
Clitoral. I'u...tn.—By Mr. MITCHELL. t'rom Bnd-
pan : Mr. HUDSON. from :he Mayor and oorporuion~t
Sanderland: Mr. V. SMITH. from Northampton: md Mr.
ILAUDCASTLE. from tVestatinster ; Mr. 'WHOLE.
FIELD. from Birmingham mad livarazurtoit ; Mr. HEY.
WOOD. from ;Awes not heard: Sir DE LACY EVANS,
from Westmunter Sir w. SOMERVILLE. from W..sb
master Mr. PARKER. from Shetheld. -a faroer of the
preservation of the crystal Palace.
Coat. Drnn.—By Mr. HUDSON. from ihipowners of
Sunderland ; and Lord HARRY VANE. from .aipownen
of Hartlepool. St.-' and

_ Stockton.. MiddlesboroMM, for a reduc-
tion of coal dunes.
Jews :x PA/I.I.IAmENT.—By Sir D. LILL. from the
electors of Greenwich. promo{ heard by counsel in
.upport of the elum of Dand Salomon., Rm.. ono of thine
representatives. to it and cote member of the house :
also laottier ?cation. -.opted 1..:20 ...lectors of Green-
'nth. who attached their -mnatures between 10 o'clock on
Thursday night and I o'clock •os Friday Mr. R. CrRRIR,
from the elector, of London. preying the house !mamma
other threes) to admit by resolution Baron Rothschild. one
ut their representatives. to Ms 'eat in parliament. or ;hat
the petttimsers may 11 heard by counsel at the bar

,_, in
__ ___,,.... _ ____ ._._ - ____ ._ _ _ ___ . . .aid that the uovernment ought I, port of the prayer of the petition. file hon. gentleman
W • new taw, but merely that there .lienld be m inquiry. te inuedue words into the hill that would settle the grave' moved that the petition be read by :he clerk at the table,
amok • request Xrd them eour. And he thought it wee iine doubts which at ;meant emoted as to its character, and winch was dom.
they falls ,nutled to make. His lordship cosicluded painted ..at the dangers which might arise from lea,* Bali ca ELECTION.—By Mr. COBDEN. from SO
by mons' the- instruction. the get without such words to be ranted '-'44 In 4 torero- ' electors or llarwiela ,omplarnuur of the conduct ot Mr.
Ile LORI) CIIANCELLOR saul there seas A great dia. meat tunic to the catholies lie .unzonneell that he I .mtwood. and praying that they may be heard before the
auction between the ..rners os o imhop Anil :he Jurisdiction should ,ippoee laird Montclair s motion. believing that : committee now intind, in order to prove their allege/Loa&
a a biakop—a diatuictiou which he .as .urrnial his the catholic, of Ireland had no wish to be separated. i CONSOLIDATED FUND APPROPRIATION) BILL.
link friend had • .matted to out, because it was in every la due matter. from their co.relisnouser of England.
' hest mi the .oblect. The bishop .[craved ./. serum smiths- Their lordships then divided. when the numbers were-. • I The amendments to this bill were countered and agreed
rity from hiss charmer. lie was made a bultop by the in. Contents
to portion A' %ands• but certain other mitten Bare to him Non-contents 4.,__,4 I COAL 'WHIPPERS ,PORT OF LONDON) BILL.
a holy character quite independent .it bus .unsdiction At Rhea the gall war re-opened. On the motion that the house should go into committee
ill. livery withal function winch the catholic 'Whops The Earl of AB/ RDEEN was stating that some time I°° this big.
had esteemed •or might ,hereme would be completely avail- ago their lordshlps !tad presented to them a petition from I Mr. LAI3OITHERE presented petitions. muneremely
able mid ununpeacheAl '.:r anything that wee in nue 30 clergymen in •lcotland. who had -e pleated atenuei,... maned. from the Inhabitants of it. Anne, Linea:ma St.
tall. He believed that there was a ,eatriay iamb. from :he ;urisdicuon of the -ushops of that mantra. and !George's-in-the-East. Wapping., and from the resisserod
wait.A noble friend of loos animated to Km that who prayed their lordships to train them an episcopal coo. rod whippersof the port of London. .ill in favour of tin
mantises and other tete wont.' be void. 11, utterly *titan= of then two. The house had no power to acted: 101 l
denied it. He rood that A wee the 1,„1, , hareater of the to their doom, tat no exception was taken to the request I lie house then wear into committee. Several werhel
bishop which gave authority to the to that he per. itself. lie ventured. however. to submit. that if they, or 1 aort:lat
ent, were made oa W "ggegllOU of Mr. Wawa.
ronlitd.. lie ,lid nut expect that :his 'object would have any other protestant sect should form on episcopacy uncap i One wee reeisted • by Mr. I..sboltehere. and the gallery was
Mee dammed that night. The other notht he mar anted with the established church. they would come under I cleared for a division : but there only being between 20 and
deem with his beaks and sathontiee oo the "abject. the openers of the bell, in consequence of the words in the 130 members present, no division took place._ The hon. '
bat it paced of without say paint being meal upon it ; presable • • under cover of authority from the see of Rome. tramper. however. was Peered"' on t° withdraw hilleastsd-
-6" tbereftwe be otid not refer to at. In A week. writers ter otheririee.- That. however. would be carrfing the Mat 01". 4" to slow the business to Proceed-
I am lid
eallislic. A proforma, at Onmersopernm of religious intolerance further than any one could have Mr. LABOUCHERE said he believed the commission
had been constituted in inch a way Al to give general ran-
Wbers without say perminag arrow it was mid nonemplated, (or no loubt the promoters of the bill only
they mould perame faassions. bat tbey could met intended that it should apply to the church of Resat and to firths, and that all matters of detail might safely be left to
rumor aay aet as loaner as my persienar home. papal airmonoll• then.
&meats', that. awe were penes. rams evemrhem elle. la the amuse of some diametral:L. the Marquis of Laws. The bill
. Pooled.. through Nominee: the report to be
That continued the rte emor human lord) would be Dona' and Earl OMIT explained that the boll was te apply receive° " •moaday.
leand not / matter of doubt, bee dm: and therehre ..iii:. sod Irelaad. 14,NDs CLACSES CONSOLIDATION (lIIKL.L.ND)
he noble and .earned friend maid be nano to plain Deka el AILOYLL expromed a hope that beam BILL.
any lathoniy that the blshop was set peetanasg = Mit Me would be no territorial bishops. but that all the The hoses then went into coommittir on this hal. mo-
m the character which MO alit to all his ha Amnia wend be so only by vutue of volunimy moral at the 4111 cisme. The ellftfld ammo
neseasie
funeemen. Ile =WC and Weed led Its. seined No en the part of their Seam times mai the home resumed ;the report to be ,
the firm qUegliat Plat to ism hr Lad nolueleo ash ail ha
rhea mat Me commitne on the hill. Me day.

if the noble lord intended to ask him whether if the Pope I Lord KINNAIRD moved the omunion of the lint clause, STEAM NAVIGATION BILL.
1
should appoint a catholic bishop to a diocese established by for he could not direst himself if the impreseion that it , On the owned for going into committee on this hill.
the crown. relenting Its extent, that wou.l be A pretended , would affect the duties of the Roman catholic clergy. i Mr. .INDERbON risked for a poetponement Mr a week.
we because the Pipe had appointed a bishop, he immured. I The Earl of ELLENBOILOUGII agreed with the n-ble to allow of some recent alterations in the bill being cousi-
n.. The neat question was, supposing, instuod of appoint- I lard opposite. As the appointment of parish priests de- : deed.
.nit %bishop to a ,diocese created hy the crown. he chose to pended upon the jurisdiction of their bishops. in de- • Mr. LABOUCIIERE said that a postponement foe a
erect, or to attempt to erect, a bishopric bearing miner the latter of their authority they annulled the ap- week would be fatal to the ehance of the 101 l passing this
the same title with a diocese in the u-stablishel pointaaent of every parish priest in -very one of these pre- semen. To postpone its ;mooing this session would by a
u•Oureh. lout was nut fenteMilflUtil or identical there- tended sees ..and, without claiming any precise informs. public end of an slight magnitude.
with, was melt a Roman motholie diocese a pretended tion upon the subject, he thought there must frequently' The house then went into committee.
diocese 'ender this bill i Ile said it was a pretended see. arise cases, such is marriages and the like, in which the Several clauses having been agreed to.
.Inother question was whether the appointment of nears people were interested 'Ai that appointment. Ile -hould Mr. MINTZ moved the addition of the following
Apostolic in England or Wales was rendered void by also he glad to hear mune:planation of •he operation of the , clause:—" .tad lie it enacted, that from and after the first
toe :all, or were they subject to any penalty ? To bill upon the Charitable Bequests Act. because it struck ; day of January, one thousand eight hundred and Illy-two,
:bat he answered that this bill had nothing to do him that when the bishop went to the commissioner to de- iit shall not be lawn' for an, steam-boat to go to sea. or to
with it. This hill related only to documents from the Pope mind payment of a bequest in his favour he could not prove I sterraupon the rivers of the 1., rifted Kingdom, without having
appointing archbishops. bishops, :ind deans, and 'lid not re- himself to be the bishop without producing the bull for his a safety valve upon each boiler, free frown the care of the
lats to nears apostoiic. The legality of the appointment . appointment. and thus laying himself "pea to the penalty . engineer, and out of his control and interference. and also
of vicars apostolic would depend upon another .4w, and of 1001. In likc manner a parish priest could not receive !subject to the approval of the surveyor acting under this
with respect to that other law, ,iceoethog to the best of his his payment because he would be obliged to prove his I act. •'
~pinion, it would nut he unlawful. A further question was . bishop's jurisdiction in order to establish his own status. Mr. LABOUCHERE. while admitting the desirableness
put, that certain briefs, mania, sad !etters apostolic, . (Hear. hear.; .of the arrangement proposed, doubted the expediency of the
hong declared and enacted by section one unlawful and' The LORD CHANCELLOR said that if parties were I house declaring by legislation what was sir was nut a safe
void, would an indictment lie in respect of then : New, I married by a person representing himself to be a clergyman . construction for a .steam-engine.
that which was declared :Linemen' and void was not accuse. Ino inquiry could possibly take place on the subject of lus The committee divided—
seedy an indictable offence. They must see a what re• i orders. unless it could he proved not only that he was not a For the clause
sp eet. it was unlawful ; they must look to the statute law clergyman. hut that the parties who were married were Against it
and the common law. Give turn the menet. and let him I previously aware .of :his circumstance. If persons were The house then resumed. and immediately afterwards ,id-
me whether it came within the category referred to in the I married at church it would he a thing unheard of to inquire jaunted till a quarter before six o'clock.
preamble, and he would endeavour to answer the question. 'into the ordination of the minister. In fact, in a east aunt- The Serraua resumed the chair at 6 o'clock.
It would be unlawful. according to the statute .of Richard ! her of cases, where a mail was acting :a a public capacity, SUGAR DUTIES.
II„, provided they affected the crown, the regality, or the ; his acts. as far is the parties .nterested a them were con- Sir J. PAKINGTON gave notice that early next motion
mal. words. as lie understood them, which interfered with' weed. were established asvalid, although he had no auto- lie would call the attention of the home to the unequal
the prerogative -Sr junsdicuon of the crown. lie ,lid not : rity to do them. With regard to the Charitable Bequests competition between the Cuban ind Brazilian producers of
apprehend that ail vicar-apostolic were •of the same cha- o Act, it had been drawn up m a very careful manner. and sugar :out those of the West Indian colonies. .ind would
ratter. because .1 near-ApostOlic was s delegate ..f the Pope .in a way very different from the Cemeteries Act. move that the whole of the duties which expired on the sith
with more or .....14 power. Ills noble isid :earned friend said :In fact, the latter appeared as if the party who of January -hould be continued.
there was a :twat difference between that part of the loth; drew it had done so for some purpose. lie consideted NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND.
Geo. IV. which related to the appointment of bishops of !that the Charitable Bequests Ace did not require it to he Mr. G. HAMILTON said he would bring forward early
pretended sees and this bill. Now. what was the i proved that the parties hail a legal authority, hot merely next session the motion JP this subject which stood on the
difference? In both cases there woe a penalty attached.: that they were discharging certain duties. (Hear.) paper in his name.
'The noble Lord had referred to the menaces he I
Atter some discussion. ADMISSION OF JEWS.
had made for •he promotion of the civil liberties The committee divided— Mr. R. CURRIE said that he would move that the
.of the Roman uatholics. Ile the Lord Chanceilord For the elause
petition which lie had presented from the elector; of the
ventured to say that lie had made much aerate, mentions. I Against it -'6--a City of London be conutiered on Monday.
Ile had a troublesome and an .mpennve contest in the 110.. On clause' _• t:LERKS OF THE MEDITERRANEAN FLEET.
rough ,If Newark which he mimed on for years on the ea.. The Earl •.f ELLENI3OROI-011 observed that this Captiun PECEIELL wished to know from :he First Lord
Mak utuestion. There was no max who was more ready to I clause contained the words •• such hull.- the word •• hull" sit' the Admiralty whether Any arrangement was likely to
grant the Roman catholic' religious liberty than he was. It not being in any previous part of the hill, which showed be made for carrying out the prayer of the memorial of the
was mid that he gave offence when he alluded to the car. the uktreme negligence in framing this zolPoreant bill- clerks of the Mi•diterranean fleet laid on the table 2nd
dinars hat, and when his words were taken without tthat legislation for enigmas persecution had
„Ink), for {ranting Mem the same rank and privileges is
hApre had hoped
context they Ilakda appear offensives lost when they we ceased. lie deeply regretted that her Majesty's ministers awarded to the other subordinate °dicers on p•ain4 their
taken with .he ersiteat they wouid not bear that construe 1 had pared the Irian within which they wen jintineh is
...iti...

Sir I, BARING mid that part of the inquiry lied been
acceded to. And the remainder of the mentorml was under
the consideration of the _tarnisher board.
TRISii BrSLNEEE.
Mr. RET:sIOLDS. under .`Over 01 A 11101.1011 that the
house on rising should .uljoura until Monday. 'need A
vehement complaint respecting the negligent manner :a.
which the legislation having reference to Ireland was on-
ducted. .sad the Inert:mem • untempt =infested to the
house towards hunted and .dher Irish representatives.
Sir J. PAKINGTON interposed on A .1%11-IUOII of order.
appealing to the Speaker to pronounce +nether the topics
introduced by the lion. telemeter were not irrelevant to
the motion tie had nude.
The SPEAKER. however. raid that the course punned'
be Mr. Rey:wide. theugh -xceilingly :atonement. was nut
disorderly.
Mr. REYNOLDS then proceeded. and read •he worse'
he sad ,emposed for several important bills affecting Ire-
:and, showing when they had seen introduced. .sad :10.0.
• often ;)OMPOUSti. lie stagniensed the present session is
most disastrous and lisinaceful. and urged on the ministry
the necessity of ;saying snore .leference to Irish questions
if they would not .uduce a •ieep and irmilicabie diagnst
among his countryman.
'sift. le. W BARRON' -et-mailed the motion. And .ulded
various remonstrances touching the .areless did dilatory
way in which ail the inenures involving the :enemas of
Ireland had been treated by the British ,einsiature. On
various iuestions touching on Irish, subjects, the rep:encl-
.-MVOS ,if that country had seen outvoted by the tyrannical
majorities -umpteen ,sf English members.
Mr. MONSLLL mad. deploring ae they all profaned to
to the 'on of life :a Ireland. they ought at :can to pass the
Medical Charities Bill .sad the Ilealth of Towns Bill. He
hoped that 'he Valuation Bill Also would be got through.
It was almost the universal opinion. both of Irish members
And of the Irish people, that these measures were of the
-ALMOSS importance.
I Lord J. RUSSELL said ,us remote for not agreeing to
the motion for aajourrung to %minty was that at can one
Irish bill of .onsiderable ariportance was tixed teethe morn-
, :ag sitting 'n the following --,..then --day. ,•• Ilea:.
: isear.•• .ind :auitater., therefore. for the same of the Irish
i senesces. he must oppose the motion of the hon. gentleman.
The hon. gentleman Mr. .:,:ynuids) had trniv stated that
the chrense :eneth of this anemone on the liecienasucin
I Titles Bill had :rustrated 'he -sidearours of the government
:to settle the question a ministers money. It was ins „Mr.
lievnolds' triumph. *not mil prevented the settlement 05
that question luring the present AGSIOII- sUesr, hear.,
lie 'aimed the hon. member wood out offer Any further op-
p.aution to the ;senores' of Irish measures. the measure'
, reterred so were. AS had 'seen -toted. .1 oonuilemole im-
' pentheir ance. but fate depended sa the assistance ...r
I ~pposition of Irish members.
Mr. li. B. (IMRE mtg. seed that in future sessions mea-
sures reiaung to the social improvement of Ireland saouil
be introduced -thy in the session. and that s morning et-
' ting one 'lay in each week shuuld be allowed tor their ,lis-
-13114.114111. This would prevent the serious inconvenience of
1 throwing • seer such bills altogether. or bringing them on
for discunion AS A lAN period, when Irish members were en-
gaged At lie tames. or •sti.sther ;mutter.
' Mr. sCULLY vindicated the 'ours taken by the hon.
' member tor Dublin. in taking the opportunity he had to
' draw attention to the neglect of 'he government in legisiat.
rag !or Ireland. Ireland lied a claim to tier fur share of the
penod ,levoted to !einslation :a coca session.
Mr. Serjeant MURPIIY. on the 'apiece of lainisten'
money, observed that he received almost 'ldly remon-
strances from his constituents that some measure was not
brought forward for the abolition of this impost.
the CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUEIL stated that
his noble friend Lord J. Rummel) certainly 'lid intend to
swing :a a measure on the subject of nunietere money, but
at present :tens impossible to tit the precise time wnen.
'He hoped. however. it would 'so at in .Irly period of the
' neat session. With regard to the m Irish tills ora the
' paper, he was afraid that the hour And a mat' which lead
been occupied by sun. members for Ireland in complain-
ing of delay, would preclude the possibility at bringing
any of rata on to-night. :Rear, aver.) rho Improve-
ment 'd'rowns ,Irelandl Bill he proposed to take the tirst
thing to-morrow ' the) • .
THE PARES AND 111 CRYSTA.L PAL.tCE.
Mr. W. LEY gave notice that on Monday he would
pot a question to the noble rani the Chief Commute:Quer of
Woods and Forests. :a reference to the proposed park for
Pillsbury, whether there was my prospect of of/acting the
necessary 'arriumements for the formation ,if that park. And.
in regard to the Crystal P slice. whether, SWUM how strong
and universal the public •..elinit was ste favour of the re-
tention of that enilice. SI. -*menet which it was mad lead
been ,ntened into with the •emnussionen that the removal
of the building should be ,ommenced in November and be
eompleted within six monde. would be allowed to he cra-
ned out
'tRE WORCESTER CATHEDRAL 'SCHOOL-
Sir J. PAKINGTON was iinxions as the hon. member
for Penryn ;Mr. Mows:et was in his plonk to be .illowed to
snake as explanation on behalf of the Bishop of Rochester.
i's hen that hon. member brought forward the ere of the
Rochester Cathedral School, It would be recollected
that he made a statement ,iii reference to the
conduct of the Bishop +I liocheeter. while he
head the sec .s 1 Dean of Woreeeter, which the right
rev. prelate eonsidered to be sinjust and :orations to his
character, and had consequently requested him ,Sir J.
-Pakesurtoni to snake an ~aplananon it the facts adverted
to. the son. gentleman was reported to have said. - Now,
with reterence to the appeal to the bishop, t was of COW'S
impossible for him to interfere on behalf of Av. Winston
without heroines; s temole condemnation upon himself,
for he. when Dean of Worcester. besides allowitut the schools

'wing t,
to dna into decay, had cut down the scholars' 'Upend t'rom
21. 13a. Ml. to .ie. 10d the bishop having read this state-
ment. and feeling that was unfounded and most unjust
towards turn. thought the better course would to refer
to the master of the ,cktool the 4ubject and he 'Sir J.
l'atungton) oad a letter from the Mee. Mr. Wheeler, the
head master .f tie I :athedril School. a gentleman known
to inane hon. members present, is answer to the bishop's
application. with ...Inch. with the_parmiesion ..,f the house.
e would read. Ile 'tie. Mr. Wheeler said. 'peaking
the scholars' allowances. " the stipend .if each King's
scholar for the lam century hoe been 2/. 13e. Id.: that sum

has :slimy+ been paid to diem, and ispaid to them still. The
Dean of Worcester never had .usythinst to do in any way
with the stipends of the scholars. The money was paid into.
the hands of the treasurer thr the time being. .tnd .ia to
the idegation that the ehool fell into decay while the
Bishop of Rochester was Dean .4 Worcester. . Autho-
rised to state that there were 40 eeholan in it when he tame
to the deanery, and there are to there still." Ile trusted
the icon. member would `re saustied aster this explanation
that he had oeen led into error. uid had nude AA unjust
in regard to the conduct the nght reverend

prelate.
HOWATT said if he: had made any misstatemeau
afecting the Bishop of Rochester or any Aker person, it
was his duty to correct them, .ind to apologise for having
oven utterance to them.
,Hear.; But in this case, with
I the sande .•xception of the iast point referred to—that the
!schools had -unit into decay—which he would not assert
eta r Augment he had never made (or most of the morn-
isms papers—all. he believed, with one exception only—
concurred in attributing to him such an expretalen), but he
could coructentiously declare that he had never meant to
say that the school had fallen into decay, tot he 'knew the
contrary. But with regard to the main allegation that the
Bishop of Rochester, when Dew of Worcester, did cut
down the stipends of the scholars from 21. 13s. id.. which
they originally received in 1542, and the equivalent to
which at the present day might be estimated at between
lent,and ‘sol.—not only did he not give them that equiva-
but withheld from them the 21. 13s. 4d. cutting them
down to ss. 10d. Meat.) His authority for that state-
trusts as he said at the time, was the work on eatheebai
trusts and their fulfilment. by the Rey. Mr. Wilma, a
work which had already run through four large ditions,
had been publicly criticiaed by various partite, who were
elected by ita statementa—eriticised amonget others by
the aeons of Rochester and Cluiterlsury—and it was a
mat remarkable earcuanuee it the satranisat he (Mr.

llowatt) made on that authority was incorrect, that it had
never trees openly impugned by any of the writer who had
' attacked the worts. (Hear, hear.) lie had looked care-
fully through the papers written by the Canon of Canter-
! bury and the Canoes of Rochester, and neither .if them
impugned in any way this statement of Mr. Whistotas
, and having given this authority at the time, he (Mr.
Moreau) considered it would have been more to the pur-
pose if the Bishop of Rochester had addressed himself at
We to Mr. Whiston .in the subject. instead of to him.
II The hon. member having again read Mr. Whiston's state-
-4 meat, zeal that whether the statement he Mr. Mowatt)
had made was strictly correct or not, he hail given his
authority for it, and he hoped the Ikon. baronet and the
house would unlit that that authority was sufficient to jor
. tify him. (Rear.)
• The eonversation then dropped.
Mr. REYNOLDS then withdrew his motion for the ed.
journment of the house to Monday, and gave notice that he
would himself neat session move ter leave to bring in a bill
to abolifli ministers' money in Ireland.
BURIAL FEES FOR THE ROYAL FAMILY.
On the motion of Sir B. HALL a return was ordered of
all sums of money paid to the dean and chapter of WincLior
since the Ist day of January, ISO°. on the occasion of any
burials of members of the royal family, setting forth the
. Idates when and the occasions upon which such iums were
paid.

REFINING SUGAR IN BOND.
Lead 1. RUSSELL, in answer to a question from Sir J.
Pakington, said he could not promise the hen. baronet an
Fportunity of bringing on his :notion us this subject before
iday nen.
Sir J. PARINGTON expensed his intention of submit-
ting a resolution on that day.
PATENT LAW AMENDMENT BILL.
feeling of discontent as to the present state of the pa-
re.iThaure AuTt TthesltbliilLEYtamiii ENtEhallt.lietherawamoviseeng. the,
_rowing
•
tent law. Many eomptaints had been mule of the de-
lay, ther e.xfpepnseat..t:..ind,ndthi
iderable foundation. .1
complaints were not without eons attemlant on the
committee hail been appointed ioy the other house, the
et
coPtieednalenottylie denied that those
result of whose labours was the present bill. lie was
aware that An ..pinion prevailed to some extent that patents
ought not to he granted. but he could not concur in that new.
All must admit that the object of lemsiation on the subject
should be to develop, as far as possible, those inventions
which were calculated to contribute to the wants. the com-
forts. and the enjoyments of mankind. Though the hope
of benetiting eur species. and obtaining the praise and ap-
probation of our redoes. might is a strong Incentive to
that hail of scientific pursuit and experiment br which
alone useful inventions could be matured. he believed :t
would lie found in general far :CM etfleaeious than the ex-
experiments to bring them to perfection, and even then
ucneeinnvenitipeotts.yere:
them to the public woo were to be benefited try them. Tbo
'nll proceeded a the ern:done of 41TIT/1( personal reward
'Pectatiniuireyed.:tte*lnaluroaf stpecillsieteur. rAn7dniwurdtlaPatiye.wnest.":eeessaryd' to introduce
to the inventor, in the must appropriate way. viz. by
itm-
curing him a monopoly in his invention for a iimited period.
The meaner assumed that a patent should be granted to say
• • there were who held that there
out. some ,ICIIOTI3
.70711nthwehIlloOdi74!1yhtwilittrwIrdh 'hataprolifsiatoninrionitlnimarnd laCt
amid be no inquiry as to whether 1 man should have a
patent granted to lam or not. but that my person should lie
at :Mem to reenter 311 invention. aid without any investi-
gation should be entitled to patent rights if he could sue-
,ftsi TaaIUPIO,IIIK them against Ise rest of mankind.
If the object were to oompensate W.stminster Ball for
the loss of 'easiness which it was -aid had taken place in
consequence of recent legislation. he knew • if no snore
etfectual plan. hear.) But he . onceived the legis-
lature ought to guard the public against the assumption
try any man of ruthts he was not entitled to if has inven-
tion was sot new. And to protect others who might by
previous discovery hare acquired the right in the invention.
It seemed to hint, therefore, that that would be ./ dange-
rous precedent to proceed 'mon. lieu.) Now• the ques-
tion was this--Siy what system they should determine the
question of whether A person was entitled to the rights
which would Accrue to him antler A patent Even one
Admitted the present system to Ise bad. Its great defect
was its entliaess. And that costliness ought, unquestionably,
to tie reduced. Every application for a patent at present passed
through no fewer than seven stages in seven .lifferent offices.
Five of then otficesappeared absolutely unnecessary t but the
result of possum through them All was this—that the party
was put to an t. :pease of '4l. es. If he also took out
patent for Scotland. lie had to go through tire ether iodine
al that country, At an expense of 441. more: and if he took
out mother patent for Ireland he had to go through live ;
other el lees in that irountry at an expense of 1191.—making
nearly 3001. In all. If there happened to be two nersous I
joined :a the same patent additional fees had to be paid.
Now. the bill proposed to sweep away these •itfices. •uni to
have one common patent Meths three kingdoms. A person
often desired to ...mum his eatent for the three kingdoms at
oat :aid the same time, And the bill proposed to nye him •
his patent accorditutiy, And most :materially to reduce the
expense of timing it out. In addition to reducing the cx-
tense,
hi proposed by the bill to give the inventor this very
great advantage--namely, to distnbute the sum total he I
would have to pay into three separate payments. making
the tint And smallest payable et the time of granting the
patent, the next and larger it the end of three years. And
the third and largest at the end of seven rears. .11 Pre- .
sent mat patents tell to the ground. and produced no etfect.
A man very often took out a patent strong in lus expecta-
tions At the moment. before lie had in opportunity
'o test its ',elite by experience, that the invention was
important: and he paid nearly 4001. Two inconveniences
attended this. In the first place. it crushed ,ind paralysed
the means of the poor man, and dfotded him no oppor-
tunity of imaging ais patent 'tefore ,he public. The bill
proposed in the tint instance that the cost d the patent
Mould .se limited to 20/.. with an additional -if. atalal., duty
It proposed at the end of the third year to give him a re
iiewai for tour years for tel. and 101. stamp duty. Be thus
obtained An importunity, extending over three years. to test
the' value of his experiment for 131.. and he obtained
patent right for seven rears for 751. If, at the end of that
time, the patent was calculated to be henetictal to the pub
lie And to him. then lie would be in a condition to pay a
larger sum: ind iceordingly the bill proposed that he
should then pay eV. and A further -tamp duty •.t 20/.
Therefore, the total cost would be lowered from 3001. to 1701.,
And its payment would be spread .ver a period of years :
thus adording is,rreat advantage to inventors. The matter
was experimental, mad therefore the proposed fees might
probably be ramble of reduction hereafter. In the tint
instance. however, though rive out Of the seven stages which
now the inventor had to pass through were about to be
abolished, and though there would be a great amount of
tees 'lone away with. vet compensation would have to Se
given the officers. .1 margin for this purpose had to be
taken hut. testing the expense by actual ••xperiment. he
had every reason to hope that they would be enabled. in
the course of time• to lower the amount of fees to a point
eonsulerably under that which was now proposed. (liear.
hear.) Be now came to the question—in what mode was it
to be determined whether 3 party was entitled to a patent
or not ? This question had hitherto been left entirely to the
lastrotficers it the crown. to whom the petition sent to the
Secretary of State at the:Roaseedffee was refereed. Two
great objections were urged Against this tribunal end he
thought them well founded. It was said in the tint place
that it was a secret tribunal. And that seerese, if it did mots
arise from the will or inclination • •f the laweittleers, ;trove
certainly from the necessity of the ease. It arose in this
way—The report of the law odicen was made at an early
stage of a complicated proceedig. It was. of course. the
object of the inventor that until his patent was sealed no
one should know the stature of his invention. On
the ether hand. the party opposing him. and .iseerting
that he had the same inveation, came before the
lawertflcen with the view of showing that he had
some invention which would entitle him to the patent: and
is he was exceedingly .inxicous that the ether man, whom
he was opening, should not know its precise nature. he ob-
jected to its being made known. Thus, each was obliged to
be hind in turn with closed doom And the consequence
was. that a weret tribunal was inevitable. Now, the bill
proposed to enable a man. at the trine he applied for his
patent, to lodge in the elfin of the commissioner, what seas
called provisional specification- —that was, a statement
••f the invention analogous to the deposit now required by the
law Akers. Everyman was to he compelled to depart this
specification, which was to state the true nature of his in-
ven
it
tion And its general features, 'wanner luta a latitude to
ts,
improve upon it if he could by subsequent discoveries. .1s
soap as he deposited the specification, the bill proposed to
give him a " provisional protection "—that wast that he
might use his invention, make it known to the public. and
make experiments on it in public, without any apprehea-
,lloll that by its becoming public he would lose his patent.
This protection would extend to six or eine mouths—
whether to six or to nine months was not decided, but
most probably in committee sit would be considered
sudicient. Then, if a man imposed the granting of a
patent to another, he would be compelled to lodge the
particulars of his objections—thus doing away with weeny
And loading the tribunal ..pen for both parties to lie heard.
lieeame now to mother point—namely, to the abjection
raised respecting the incompetency of the law °dicers to
decide on :natters of the' nature. ft was true. it eery often
happened that the iaw-others of the crown, though well
acquainted with legal zdfairs, might not be sufficienny
versed in science, whether ma mechanics, or chemistry, or
toha them other •lepartments. and• that, therefore, they were
titeemiotohnerof hanpuedn,
not competent to deal with questions of science. On
was
considered,y
h
wt
nore
to consti-
mmainthedqttaaaedre
Beat mode
moitfodlwaaaewo.f dpTersiorabhuseceding
or less of udicial legal Acquirements and habits to decide
cute a hoard of examiners consisting of persons of scientific
knowledge. to refer to them all questions of patents, to
submit to them the provisional epecifications• to require
them to report upon the eltficiency of the -pecifica-
*es and upon the nature of the conilict, if may,
rad that upon this report the law-otficers should act.
where the parties were dissatisfied with the report of the
examiners, then it was proposed that they should obtain
hearing from the law °dicers, the latter calling in the
examiner, to explain and assist. and that the ultimate deci-
sion shoulebe left to the law officers. Expenses would not
be increased by this proceeding, for the law "liken of the
crown were willing to make personal sacrifices in this im-
portant matter, in order that the public might reap the
benefit of their services. (Hear, hear.) With reference
to the provisional speeificadoo, he omitted to state
that at present a man was prevented especially if he
were a poor nun without mesuie—froot obtaining the aria.

tone° of capitalists for his invention, because until he got
his patent he could not go into the market ; hut. by •he
' provisional protection for six months, he would be enabled
to take his invention into the market at once _lnd obtain
the rissistanee of capitalists. Client% hear.) The hill next
provided for the proper clarification And register of all
patents ; it also provided that the pecifications. atc.. ,night
Ire copied on payment of t small fee thus giving eery
great advantage. .1t present, for tee want of some such
record. a man, after having spent his enemy, Pa-
tience :red money in bringing an invention to per.
fection. occasionally found that somebody else had anis
ciliated him by taking out a patent for 'he same thing years
• before. It was, therefore, most desirable, as rewarded
public inventions and private rights, that there should 're
some means of arertaining facu in Any particular depart-
went of mechanics, 10 as to prevent loss 01 time .ir.d ..apical.
(Hear.) Then •here was a provision that where talons
arising out of patents were !nought in courts of law. these
courts should have :in equitable jurisdiction to settle the
matter, so that justice might be Administered where ..quity
was required without the expense and trouble of further
litigation. There were one or two clauses in the
• bill upon which some doubt might be entertained—such,
for instance, as to whether a man introducing an invention
I into this country which had'teen originall7 brought out in
I some foreign land was entitled to a patent for it. Lrreinn
these clauses to be dealt with in .oramittee. he had now
stated the general provisions of the bill . and. although it
might he said that they were dealing with :t subject upon
which more would require to he done hereafter. vet he
anticipated that the measure us it stood would be produc-
tive of many benefits to the scientific world. ',Hear.)
Mr. J. L. RICARDO complained that an -grant to the
principle of this bill was asked before time had been at.
forded foe investigating the evidence. The present •ystem
was an abomination which ought to be done away with;
but the whole principle of the patent law was bad. tad
the opinion of many of the most intelligent wittier:a should
he abolished. The greatest inventions were unprotected .ry
patents.
Mr. MACGREGOR accepted the hill as A great =move-
' merit upon axisung statutes.
Mr. LAI3OCCIIINLE. in reply to Mr. Ricardo. -.bserved
that those who advocated the total abolition of a ?awns
law did so with reference• not to a rational. •rmpw. nd
economical system. but to a complicated .41,1 ..xpensive
one. This bill accomplished the object which all must have
in view : without abolishing the •vstem Si patents..t mgr
reeled the abuses so lastly complained of in the existing
system. Mr. Labouenere then .sminiented upon the 1510.
malice and costliness of the present taw. and thought that
no rime should he lost in amending rt.

Sir D. L. EVANS haring approved the bill.
Mr. ROUNDELL I'ALMMit. ..tud he woe favourable to
the principle of the !till. which lid not. however. eo far
enough. to catty out the prtnexple. lle .lid not -cc .ehy
person ehould uot. on -cgiatertaa i .pectlication. Secure AS
once a protection analisous to .openght.
.Uter a few words :rum Mr. \V W:l.l.:asts and Mr.
Mrxrz.

Alderman iIDNET rose for the purpose ..t* s
fallacy :is regarded the .vonomy which .t was :Tormented
would result from this measure. :n :St; the :cumber of
Parents registered for the three ,ingdoms was 712. which
• yielded •47.44111.. n fees. fakir= the -flUle lumber to he
registered in ih42, the amount •4 tees :iayable ender the
hill now before the houses would _imount •ct
therefore felt hound to 'ay that :a ommittee he -houid
consider it his •luty to propose eertain resollawns :taring
for their object the modification And reducdun 1 than
kn.

fhe SOLICITOR-diENETLIL 'tumid •ay, mtur,
that these tees were at fire.ent. aid wouid !w. resrulsted •ry
.pailuated stale, the resit:: K which uow was !hat
were more patents taus' out !bah previously% 137 the pre.

, .
sent bill a Brest .uleantage would be 41Vets ?antes In "Its'
!ding them to take tat patents for *tree years,
by the end of wfuch time they ,ould not 'ins
be aware whether the patent were worth keelnnsi
.)? not. If useful to themselves :hey would ,:eep
it; :f not, they could pct plenty parties .0 :lurenase
them. Theretore, he should ,ay the result was .ertaiti to
be a considerable diminution is the payment •he to
"dual parties. .1s regarded these tees :le /hould •ay
• a very lame portion .if them went :a -tamps. iud mother
large portion went to the oonsolidatcd Find. fliere -could
be no doubt that the present measure would or ~enetietal.
Indeed. there were no .ess than iiMl I,ersons it the .Iresent
moment who had taken ':tat notectioa ../1 regarded the
articles deposited by them at the heat Exhibition. `taif tf
atom at :east were meet mxious that this :nil duluid plat,
and who were only waiting that they :might then ippiy
under t tie -,aunts. Lie therefore -he -.Louse *venni
consent *.o -eeond reading the measure.
liter tow words from Mr. WA.X.LEV, the was read
woad time.

EMIGRATION ADVANCES' DISTRESSED
DISTRICTS ,SCOTLANDI DILL.

- -
The house haring gone into .roratnittee on •tus
Kr. S. CRAWFOILD • :pressed !lone that a nt,natire.
containing Amilar prortsiona ad :he 2resent. .Iton:a a .n-
-traduced for Ireland.
Mr. T. 5TT7.1.11.T ',caged to remind !he '.rm. rentteman
.•

I, that the exclusive let/ration. rtneurctl ')y :tott. vtuttemett
from Ireland. was such to to ,lissocaate that rountr7 :Yom
the lemslauon practised towards liugland ACM iOOCLIIICI.
As regarded the present 'all. he ipeogctt to +turgrot
that sewing to the condition of property :n the western
Wee. it would be well If a CLimle :nterpretation were
added. which ,could be ,lone on the third reeding. Am.)
lie would a/se ,tmeest.to •ho ?Mkt hon. -rmtlemmi. that he
&Wag take the land in the ..olony, which would 'w
eet-
proved the labour the -duzrants. u ,teuritv :Or the
repayment of the per rent. 'rho inhabitants of inch;
lands and :elands. who had borer with cxemni.nw incomes
,he pressure .4 ,evere .listress. were .kservine •,t the ...on-
.leration of the irovernment. and ,in •heir part he thanaed
the Itovernment for measure. which would ,rove sme-
&id both to the poor inhabitants And .o the 'owners ..t ,a-o-
!. perry there.

The CIWTCELLUR of the EXCTIE(II-Ell, uimittat
there had severe .Listrem :n the .sianns •t -teotiand.
though :t was considerably -xieraerated. rho .ion. tnd
'learned gentleman wanted to •he oi •tie word
owner in the hill. It had the -ame :neania.r A :iau .a
the Jai 10 rim... and included all !tenons who represented
the owners of :and. With regard to taking •he •.motual
land as security, the ,eating tnaciunere -•outni nut 112 71:64110
Available ter that purpose. .ind tie thuu.ctit that .he %re-
• sent period of the session A wottia rtut ente -0 • •netinieer
the measure with inch i rewritten. lie was .ttei • tut •me
I measure met with the approbation of the :ton. out :earned
. .

c()W.IN thanked the rovernment
consideration :hey had .tiren this -obit-et.
.ifter some eonserration btll went throw
and the house resumed.

eno93

OMMlztee.

METROPOLITAN INTERMENT .IDV IN(•E:7z.
The house having zone into ..ommittee m •hie
a prolonged .lisetuston took place !port reNnutton.
which An advance 01 130.000/. was ,snettuaett • ) !he 11,,ard
of llealth for the purpose .)1 :Juictuarig out .petung
conetery.

The (;11,..LNCELLOIL a the
I elinitur to manure the whole rt.,ponsfutlity Li-oonsing
this Advance according. to the L,lessurt. ot -.ornament. •mo-
' matted that until the money wm .waned. he ,oarti
could not propose 1 new cemetery, did • 'nu' •he :war
eemetery was ready, they ,rould not ,•mcetd Luse • too
intramural interment places ~u to !tie 'MOWS
health.

Sir B. HALL said. io treat was their lis•rast
the Board of Health, that lie ;Kiiieved the .anatotante
of the metropolis would not arree to 4&and .ver •0
it this large sum of money. He take the .ense t •he
house against the grant. If the 'pixirtl wanted money they
might raise it by a penny rate. but they Istew well •hat the
attempt would raise en outcry they feated •o meet.
Mr. BELL said the abuses in the provinces respectira n-
tennents were quite 31 :OM AB they were in •he inetropotiti
and yet this act was entirety ;ocall. throwing the ,iitire .oh-
trol into the hands if the Board of Health.
Lord J. RUSSELL wished hon. members elinus.l t/O/C
the evil seriously in the face. Were facer to prevail. _rent
danger might arise from burials taking place :n •he Duda
lof the metropolis. The Board of Health were empowered
'to act in this matter for the present. eventually, .n al
probability, the control would be consigned to :he H-ianus
of other parties.

Mr. BRIGHT proposed !hat the matter •hould • ett
as it was until nest aession..lnd that the rovernment shotud
is the interim consider the hest mode nt manseing tie
water, the sewers, and the intermenu of the metropolis.
Yr. FORSTEII wished the hon. member for Manchester
would tontine his attention to the borough he represented,
and leave the metropolis to conduct ICS own
In course of .liscuseion.

Lord J. RUSSELL ,aid the rovernment did not coin-
cide in all the plans of the Board .4 Health, hnt they I:er-
tainly did :wee with them in their desire to close the into hurial-pounds.
_ _

Mr. WAHLEY made some observations to the ctfect that
there had been unnecessary delay in this matter; and cons
eluded by moving that the chairman report progress.
Lord J. RUSSELL—The lion. member complains 4 de-
lay, and to remedy it would add to it. Hear, hear,
and laughter.)

After 4 ttuther convention between Mr. S. Wortley,
Col. Dunne, Mr. Alcock, aid Mr. Reynolds. Mr. Wakley
withdrew his motion that the chairinan repart progress.
and the house divided.
For the vote
.Irrainst S. 46--1
Mr. REYNOLDS protested against the vote as most pro-
fligate. This was a vote from the consolidated fund to pro-
vide cemeteries for the richest metropolis in the world.
whilst every other city was left to provide for itself. There
was a talk of a ld. rate ; but nobody believed that that
would ever be tivnklable. The House of Commons had ro-
fused money this session for charitable :incitation' in Ire-
land; and lie hoped that this im roper application of public
funds would not pass unobsstyed.
The house then resumed.
• POOR RELIEF ACT CONTINrANCE BILL.
This bill, after ,ome discussion. passed through com-
mittee.

Tie following bills went throurrh ,omnuttee rhe
Chureh Budding _lets .intendmc at Bill pro form, ,:
&c.. Contagions Diseases Prevention Bilk eiranumioners
of Railways Act Repeal Bill : Representative rears fee
Seistlamd Flill ; and the Patent Law Amendment Stamp
Duties and Compensation) Bill.
The Administration of Criminal Justice Improvement
Rill was read a third time and passed.
The house adjourned at hiagliast 1 o'clock.