The Express.
London, England, 1847-06-11 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TIIIIRSDAY, JUNE 10.
The LOAD CuencaLuta took hie seat at 6 o'clock.
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11l6.41".Mhhmit ef Eldsoprles; Peeriere
Aimed Aft Amendment; Bina
SECOND ISEADIPOIL—Lesa Dbovest; ktheeets af Ikaalleelta,
theskere mdaraelkieleges; MOs..
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EMlNft—llsrvheof Heirs Scotland); Tremerintarel Lei
(Seatant); Dorms lbellim (seabed) ; Betitabie emmellal• BM
Debt (Scotland)• Oren Owners (Motiand); Bills.
THlkO REAbliki.—Bupementatire Peers (ftratlnn”.
RETURNS 011DELED.—On the mouse or Earl Frreenur=ll.
nun ofthe gems edveseed, by way of Iron oe otherwirc, to
Mom the eemenemnemise of the last widen of parliament
NEW BISHOPRICS.
The Archbiahop of DUBLIN, in presenting a petition for
the re-establishment of the bishopric of Kildare, said be had
a bill removing the restrictions imposed upon her
rillstlty, by the Church Temporalities Act, and enabling her
• to appoint a bishop to one of the sees supp by that
measure. The bill was subsequently brought induct read a
first time.
IRISH PAUPERS.
Lord BROUGHAM, in presenting a petition from the
maor, imegistrates, and pried* inhabitants of Liverpool,
a et
thbee=radlatheasecnivir" InteeniOsltrilitttat
• the tamest Amer endorsers, and that already there
had in the execution of their dudes, tlx Roman Catholic
Zsix names, and a number of relieving -officers
64A0E 11 ENT OF PARLIAMENTARY OFFICES.
Lord BROUGHAM mid he had to complain that in cer-
tain returns just laid on their lordships tattle there were
several important :acute, and he complained all the more
of this from the fact that these papers laid before their
lordships only yesterday were published in a London news-
paper on Saturday last in a complete state, without any of
these !acme. He should on Tuesday submit a proposition
on the subject to their lordships.
NAVAL OFFICERS.
The Earl of HARDWICKE postponed his motion with
reference to rewards to naval officers until Monday week.
BISHOPRIC OF MANCHESTER BILL
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said he should trouble
their lordships but a few moment/ in explaining the object
of the bill of which he had now to move the second reading.
At the time that the question arose in that house, as to the
consolidation of the sees of St. Asaph and Bangor, there
was but one feeling as to the propriety of creating a bishopric
of Manchester—a part of England remarkable for its central
position, its dense population, and its various social rela-
tions. Happily the means existed, out of funds hitherto
appropriated to episcopal maintenance, for the immediate
creation of that see, and this was the chief object of the
measure to which he now called their lordships attention.
In providing for the creation of the see, it was, however,
found necessary to make some provision as to the seats held
by bishops in their lordships' house, and this bill would
enact that, saving the rights of the two archbishoprics, and
the sees of London, Durham, and Winchester, the other
bishops would take their seats in that house by seniority.
With respect to the circumstances of Manchester, that see
would embrace an area of 1,220 square miles, and, at
present, a population of 1,123,000 souls. The arrange-
ment of this see would greatly relieve the labours
of the bishop sof Chester, The endowment provided
for the sin would be above 3,0001. from the ecclesiastical
couunisaionere, the whole of which would be at once avail-
able, and to add to which there would presently be 1,2001.
available from other sources. Ho had only to add that the
bill received the concurrence of the heads of the church, and
to move that it be read a second time.
Lord MONTEAGLE reviewed the arrangement respect-
ing bishoprics originally mode by the ecclesiastical commis-
sion, under the unction of the parliament, and expressed his
regret that that arrangement had been departed from. In
the proposition now before them, all consideration of the
interests of the parochial clergy of North Wales was aban-
doned. He objected elm to the new principle of creating a
body of bishops who did not hold seats in parliament. How
these novitiates were to pass from their episcopal novitiate
into the full completion of their dignity was not to him
very clearly or satisfactorily explained. In North Wales, it
must be recollected, diesent was making great stride*, and
yet has they were about to perpetuate the system under
which that diasent had arisen. lie expreseed also his regret
that a bill of eo much importance should be introduced at so
late a period of the session, and almost, as it were, at the
close of a parliament.
Lord STANLEY should regret to say anything which
would interfere with so important a measure, but thought
himself justified, by the position in which he stood with
reference to the proposed new see, in addressing to their
lordships a few words upon the subject of this measure. He
must first my that he regretted the rescinding of the resolu-
tion sanctioned by parliament, for the union of the soot of
Bangor and St. Asaph. He thought great inconvenience
would arise therefrom, foe which there would be little com-
pensation. He saw befogs him the right rev. prelate charged
with the ditties of the me of Chester' and he said in his pre-
sence that Mee wee ea prelate who had laboured more labo-
riously or amilmody he prosmatir the interests of his doe
ogee, bathe wee ere *at debt is,. -prelate would admit that
the 'abounded roan wen far above the powers of any
single tor. He limbo saw mai room and future ad-
van:Su Ike erodes isf the new see whisk would relieve
that rev. raekto to seine extent' ham his labours and
ties. At the same time, however, it was right
rat be skald stab that ea the principle upon which this
bill or Wad ha (Lard Stanley) could not altogether con-
fer. Theas win ems object connected with it to which he
roil Dave spooldb directed their attention, if circumstances
War sera whir ossiered it unnecessary to my anything
flarther respestang it. Ha alluded to the position of the chap-
ter of the othembal remit of Manchester, whose anomalous
position it bed bar lio duty not very long ago to bring un-
der the wenishonden of their lordship house. He
was lied to eity that gime the debate which had taken
places wet theit matter the chapter had consented
to glee ala en well as a moral interpretation
to the NW. their eartitation which rendered residence
ttorillimb ma Hot. they had also offered to bind them.
maws to Wee seek meriteal sharp of one of those poor and
E&Meta of Mochaster which were immediately
te their tedbedraL K.,, he objected to the intro.
el the novel principle of lerlishing a bishopric of
the (bath of England lido* a meat in their lordships'
• boas& He would love bola bolter E iof, instead of
kir a see at deantsier, be 's government
Mvialdthaosd a peon whine, awl w far it was
lids whit to estiod eplempl esporeishm. The math mar.
trio led rad that the asmandeasos bed sessetamehmi
rok under the evargeorato oar orb& "mum Moor
devoid ant haw mats in that banes. Is plat of
At,, the asmakokows did met ore any resemmeedation
of 016 kid LOW Were embed apse to Mato the mode in
whisk it mere be WI to serf or a pooseassived plan by
whisk be. addition bishapdas wen isle anallitated with-
out baying legislative seats attached to them. It was im-
posed is a oration that the commissioners should carry the
piss of re government into effect. His precise objection
woos het it had not been avowed by the government what
farm distribution of biroprice was intended. If the go-
vernment bad stated dilatory that they proposed to increase
the aviator el blimp he We country by four, and
that they did mg propose to inereses the number of
sees to a grabs extant, he believed there would
have been Mlle abjection offered to the proposal to
&tech to the fare lsikoprics that which was the acoompani-
mast sieve sidling bishopric, yin a seat in that house ;
but, there twenty-is Whops in the house already, be
leeembt greet would bog excited by the addition of
eve
ass dem , separately, to that number. If it ware
minly Warded to :roam die Maim of bishops by four,
the poemallea taken was, he oorhissed, unnecessary - but
it won lb Om belief that the spirited meats of the arch
of iii required that the lareme, hated of being
Hags& to for, should be soh aeons herciartesuaty.
The adolmisa of soh a aware Seidl eat, be dmegitt. be
era mord la that boos; at WI emir be hit tone nor'
tale that the pEmstadmit theta wend set mat with
the nor of Booths then MOS debt aad
=us
42.64 sad half die amber mere pima-
hen that be., the. raid be
obviate disatier to mesh aa sneageosaL Is the lint
place, the between the earned bishop sod
the dared wadi be hesavediatly large ; and in
the
unlix, the dodos connected with a seat in
re rob ask enehably, devolve on any Whop
.natil, la the redo of- Ilhe
Thewould be infinitely lees
compeer Modkonge the. rose wand Ilmhatt
the me drier moil be esdaled, the brt
adlibtoL Hs rased fry Ma 'sateen whisk wan be draws
boom those who bed soh sad them dm in aot. AO
he pospertio, however, as spheral art lasi dare were
mewelleiolly perfanasiens=the lOW taloa ley the how,
meal moy Berea, the best sites Ihr the
ware it de aural, be led consider en which side
the bairn of advantage propoaderated—oo the side
of the orsailsa of seats in that house by re right
trimeed bear, or on that el the inceered eedd
and dingsess with mirk ghoul biros who were
senora palmed their ephoopal duties. (Hess, bear.)
:peer be be het to the plea be was abed I. spool very
rim dower= ww• entertained by many atembora of the
Mt. 4 11191111NIA 11111111; bat under the too essedileffmg &S-
-ea the we bead, of the necessity, for
pelsksf. a_bege imam of episcopal superintan==
ea ileal perk it was impossible to make a large addi-
ble& Se the irlfitsal roes ; ria on the other hand, of the
imereakmes whir mod result from a Urge risparra of
el' billebnarnikets.rasrastrio"tit excludedtomen trfml
tebfaellessllnb."l.
ef 'on. He propceed a recurrence to that woo
wa the of the church in olden time,
and wVoka=e of being eanctioned by an NM
repealed Iw,—a resumers to that order which in the argil
days of the rank woe denetainated surragan Whop.
(Hear. ILA rebid that the bishop of therms, dieveldbao
the whisk at the time of the reibrmatioa
it woelliot be should have, of the co-operation and
amistaseeo etifmt=a emostest in all respects to perform
oder the superintendence, and during
raTsent st, afar tiliseem—ehme function' for which the
prearaurber draw wee manifenly and confessed.'" in
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moot meld bossalticti°tlltt itPwoold be practicable to I
Mai Os ma from among the clergy of the
i11emi5......, =Vele vim objections to the exercising of
limame by spawn who also filled the capacity of I
~leeiYle salt Wm
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bad • viably &iambi]. liti who had not that advantage,
allosisb, la able faissic better qualified, would be es-
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