The Express.
London, England, 1847-12-10 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 10, 1847.

After alluding to the objects of the eiciety, he laid he cam
unrelated he members on the fact that it had ant been
established in vain. Now that the experiment of the free
traders had been so fully tested and found to be so inotiffi-
cient in its effects, the society had a right to exult in its
triumph, and strive to bring back that state of the law
under which the country bad flourished. He could not then
help congratulating the society upon the great good which it
had achieved for the agricultural and trading classed, and
not only for that but for what it would yet achieve in their
behalf. Under the present system of things--the immense
taxation of the country, and the metallic currency, he
thought it must be impossible for this country ever to com-
pete with foreign countries on free-trade principles. He had
always entertained that opinion,' and he believed his views
were shared by every member of the society.
Vise. henairrun seconded the resolution. He had little
thought on the formation of the society that they would be
so soon called to bear witness to the results which had take&
plane from the adoption of the suicidal policy of free trade.
When the society was formed, it was the rallying point for
what he might call the good sense of the country. It was
only in the session of 1846 that the total repeal of the core
laws was carried through both houses of parliament, and
now, at the latter end of the year 1847, we were in a state
of unexampled alarm and disaster. He trusted that, new
that the predictions which they (the society) ventured to
hold forth at the former penod had been so disastrously
realised, they might calculate upon having the support not
only of the agricultural interest, but of the manufacturing
interest, which bad suffered so much more intensely. They
(the society) counselled them that they would be the first to
suffer, and that though the blow might be levelled at the
agricultural interest it would reverberate with redoubled
force upon the manufacturers. They (the society) had been
told that this country was to be the great workshop of the
world ; but there was not one nation who bad reciprocated
the advantages held out to them. He trusted that the able
report which had been read would go forth to the world, and
that they might yet hope to stop the downward coarse of things
before it was too late. It would be for the legislature to
consider how far this could be accomplished—whether by an
alteration in the circulating medium of the country, or by
the revival of protecting laws.
Mr. JONAS supported the resolution. He held in his
hand a calculation of the value of the imports of this coun-
try in 1843 as compared with 1817. The calculation in-
cluded cattle and • variety of articles. The value in 1815
was 4,410,0911., and the value in 1947, 31,241,7661. There-
fore, the amount of money required to be sent out of the
country to pay for there large import* showed an excess in
1847 over IS la of 26,831,6781. Now, if the exports of the
country had increased according to the expectations of Mr.
Cobden, then, at any rate, one class would have been bene-
fited; but such bad not been the case, and he could not
but ascribe all the distress which was taking place to the
ice-trade policy.—The resolution having been adopted,
The CHAIRMAN said he rose to propose the appointment of
a sub-committee to carry out that part of the report in which
it was stated that it was desirable that a committee be ap-
pointed, consisting of owners and occupiers, to co ontunicate
together, and give their opinion as to the question called
tenantright. Now, he had always thought, and had fre-
quently expressed the opinion in public, that those who
wished to do justice to both tenant and landlord, should not
have selected such a name as tenant-right. lie had stated
that opinion in the presence of large bodies of farmers, and
he believed that they had always agreed with him. Yet
still, if he understood properly what was meant by tenant.
right, he HIS one of its wannest advocates. He did not
think that a tenant bad a right to go to him, force bim to let
a farm, and then he alone make conditions. Such would not
be ust, though he would allow that the great body of tenants
hail sufficient iotelligeuco to make a good and fair bargain.
Bat there was a great deal of occupancy that was not derived
from communication between landlord and tenant—lands
held in trust, &c.; end with all respect for the profession, be
tit not think that a solicitor had generally sufficient know-
ledge of how fanning should go on to make him a proper
agent. Many of the lands held under trust, corporations,
municipal bodies, &c., were held in yearly tenancy. Now,
he never forced a tenant to take a lean from him,
because he very oftin found that they rid not
wide to do so. He could not but think it
extraordinary that the advocates for granting leases only
commenced to ask far them when it was impossible to know
what was likely to be the price of oorn. lie was an advocate
of leases, because he thought a prudent tenant would not lay
out large sums of money on land of which he had only a
yearly tenancy. Indeed, he thought the tenant would Dever
lay out much money on land so long as he was uncermiu as
to what measures a cold-blooded system of political economy,
aided by the greatest treachery, might pas through the
legislature. The customs with reference to landlord and
tenant in this country required amendment, and he should
go into the committee, if he was a member of it, with a
desire to do his duty to both, because he thought it impos-
sible to sever their connexion without doing a great deal of
mischief to the country at large. As a landlord it was bill
greatest pride to meet his tenants in the market, and to
make a bargain tending to the mutual benefit of both
parties. But he thought there should be devised some
customs of the country in the business of sgreemeat —some
general rule laid down by which the tenant should he en-
titled to claim for himself the unexhausted improvements
which he had made in the land in his occupation. He also
was in favour of that part of the measure which was advo-
cated by Mr. Pusey last year : for he would suppose that his
friend Mr. JOOll4, or any other person, had built a very good
stable ; if he put this stable on wheels, in the event of being
turned off his estate he had a right to remove it ; but if he
built it in the usual way, though it had been finished only
a year, and he had reaped no advantage from it; by the law
as it at present stands, the stable would become the property
of the landlord, and the tenant would not be allowed to re-
move it. Now he thought that the outgoing tenant ought
to be allowed to sell any building of the kind to the in-
coming one, and if he did not wish to purchase it he
ought to be free to remove it or sell it to anybody elec.
At the same time he did not see why the tenant should
not be ebb reed, if desired, to leave the site where the build-
ing stood in the same state ss when be came in. He had
intended in the last session to move for a committee in the
House of Lords to inquire into the subject, but when Mr.
Puny brought in a bill he (the Duke of Richmond) thought
it better to leave it in his hands ; but the bill not having
passed, he thought Mr. Pusey could not complain if a com-
mittee was now appointed on the subject, so as to bring
intelligence from all parts of the country, as to the state of
feeling ; and he felt that it would be the means of effecting
wan& ruble benefit to the agricultural interest.
The Hon. H. WILSON, M.P., said, like the noble lord in
the chair, he had always regretted that the words tenant-
right should have been adopted to express so just a principle.
He had always endeavoured to promote contidence between
landlord and tenant ; he thought that he had succeeded to a
great extent; and he believed-the principal cause was, that
he had always introduced a clause into every agreement, pro-
viding that the tenant should be repaid for all uneahausted
improvements to which the landlord had not contribute&
Mr. NEWDISGATI, supported the views of the chide-
man, which he conceived would result in great advantage
to the agricultural interest; and be thought it desirable that
they should recommend to the adoption of the committee'
provisions which would only step in when mutual agreement
failed. He believed that to be the view which the society
had taken upon the question. He rejoined that the
society
had not been idle, and referred to two resolutions r
they had passed upon the subject of tenant-right, hoping
that they would that day be confirmed.
Mr. JONAIL as a tenant-farmer, congratulated the society
on their exertions in the cause. The present law was defi-
cient in many essential particulars. In the float place, he
thought the custom of giving but six months' notice to a
tenant to quit was unjust, because the fanner was often
thrown out from one place without having another to go to.
Therefore he thought that less than a twelvemonth's notice
ought never to be given. His second objection was that
upon which so much bad been said, with reference to re-
moving buildings and fixtures. It always seemed to him
one of the most anomalous provisions of our law that a
trader should have power to remove a building when a
farmer was prevented from doing so. His third objection
related to the remuneration for unexhausted improvement,
with regard to which he concurred in the arguments of the
preceding speakers. He coaciaded by moving " that a
committee be appointed to weather what steps shall be taken
to carry out the resolution pawed en the Bth of June, lin,
with respect to the relations of le adismi sad tenant."
Mr. CALLEY, M.P., supported the resolution, though be
was not in favour of forcing email Meant' into lease*, be-
cause he found them very ohm thethelleed to enter into
them. As for the large 'aphelia lima* the landkeds
were quite as much dap
eet then as they es the
landlords.
Mr. STASTORD, aka spoke to the resolstioe. After
poiatingout the differences existing between the quashes Of
tenant-right in England end Ireland, he said that severthe-
lees it could not be expected that the landed proprietors in
either house of parliament could view the bill whit* her
Majesty's government had announced to bring forward
any other sense than ea applying to both countries; for if
once the legialature recognised the right in one country of
holders of land who have made no stipulation with their
landlords to compensation for improvements, they mast re-
cognise it in the other. He supported the principle because
he thought both landlord and tenant had an important duty
to discharge, namely, to make the lend produce as much
food as possible for the good of the community. lie could
not, however, see how the principle could be associated with
free trade, and he thought it would be curious to see how
the advocates of free trade in the House of Commons would
meet the question, ae they must either deny all their former
doctrine', or nand up, for the fist time, for the rights of the
landlords
The resolution was passed unanimously, which concluding
the business, the meeting separated,

PROFITS or THE SHAKSPEARE NIGHT.—The gross
receipts of the ithakepeare performance, at Covent-Garden
Theatre, oa Tuesday last, amount to 1,1341. 2a. The
printed statement of the committee, made the day before,
estimated them at only 1,0001. The fund is still 6001.
deficient.
DINNER TO THE MEMBERS FOR 011111111WICH.--011
Wednesday, the constitumite of Admiral Delia mil Mr.
B. G. Barnard entertained timirwrizetimatives with a Orme
at the Trafalgar Tama, thew to eshbrote their Mere
to parliament. Twine's Beeps. BR., KY, took
the chair, The way WHO having been rea,
Admiral Demise, la nesegis denims hr earl, that
the Admiralty lei beg, bus Win *glebe Noe
and they were ready riot only Is re' thole ova
but also to attack smother coast if asemsary.
reaped more glory Is the late war them any Misr est
but John Bull knew too well that eller all the gleey
honour, he had • long Till to pay. ThihrpeedesnMaity Ms
Admiralty, bad left the nary ia • poi Meth smi he
wAdmiral- Dundee) hoped his eatheem
ould take good care to keep me.--Tas jelbiliVi
John liamell and her Majesty's Milmitellir Wig bon

desalts tag. Wise mopeds& by embig that the ministry of
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the peop=llllllllrosliss seadtbspill"Vismits dry to spebeirliella
melee, and to protest the samstry ageism all its enemies.
—Mr. E.G. Barnard else vegilibt to the toast, referring to his
pan 000 duct, stating that he served the constituency :or 16
years, that he was mortgaged (God willing) for five •us
longer, and after that he hoped to enjoy repose.—Admiral
Dundee proposed the health of the chairman, which that
gentleman acknowledged, and stated that his father was
under deep obligations to the voter. of Greenwich for the
support they always rendered hint in the West Kent elec-
tions.—Mr. Wyse, in proposing the liberal members of the
House of Commons, said that as he happened to cease to be
one of them, he could with propriety propose their healths.
He explained the cause why he had bean rejected at Water-
ford —b•Clittilt he would not vote for the repeal of the union.
Ile declared that he would not vote for any such measure :
no, not for a thousand seats in parliament. On the hustler,
in 1832, when asked his opinion on the subject of a repeal of
the legislative union, he replied, that if it were a possibility
it was an evil, and if it were a good it was en impossibility ;
arid those two axioms he had ever since maintained.—A
number of other touts were afterwards given, and the
meeting was prolonged till a late hour.
ST. ANDREW, HOLBORN ABOVE BARS, AND ST.
GEOILOE vita Mervyn, MIDDLEBBX. A weekly
.meeting
of the board of governors and direc.ors of these parishes was
held at the board-room, Little Gray's-inn-lane, on Wednes-
day, the 7th instant, at which upwards of forty of the mem-
ben were present; William Shawe Mayes ;Esq., in the
chair. Mr. John Dixon. of Brownlow-street, in a very ap
propriate address, moved " that the public press be admitted
to the discussions of the board by courtesy, which was ably
seconded by Mr. William Hunt, the ex-churchwardea
of
St. Andrew, Holborn; on which Thomas Y. M`Christie,
Sae., the revising barrister for the City of London, moved
an amendment that the words "by courtesy" be omitted,
and which was duly seconded by Mr. Sparrow, but on a show
of hands this amendment was lost; upon which Mr. Ord Hall
moved another amendment on the original motion, "that the
press should be admitted upon making application to the
chairman of the meeting, and that the words ' by courtesy'
he omitted," which Was agreed to by a majority of 13 to 8.
The fact of two amendments being put on the original mo-
tion excited considerable discussion, and ultimately, on the
question being put, " that the original motion be submitted
to the meeting," an objection to it was taken by Henry
James Castle, Esq., of Queen.square, and his protest was
accordingly entered.—Mr. Dixon, in support of his original
motion, referred to a very talented leading article in the
Liverpool Chronicle of the 25th September last, on the ex-
pediency of admitting the public press to the board of
governors and directors of these parishes, on which Mr.
Winch stated that that article had cost: some peen
in the parish a very oomiderable sum ; but Mr.
Dixon merely treated this as a mistake on the part
of Mr. Winch, or as a freak hlof fancy on his I
part, as the public press of this country . was well
known to be decidedly opposed to the practices insinuated,
and its independent tone fully justified the assertion.
Mr. biThrishe was anxious to learn from Mr. Dixon the
reason of his inserting the words "by courtesy," to which
that gentleman replied in the most courteous language,
amidst much laughter, that his original motion was shaped
fee the unconditional admission of the public press, as a
matter of right; but that Mr. Winch having objected to this,
he ( Mr. Dixon), in order to accommodate Mr. Winch's
scruples, inserted the words " by courtesy," and stated that-
he was prepared to put in any other words which that gen-
tleman might dictate, with the view that he might not
escape voting. on so vital a question. The chairman decided
to put the original motion, when tam appeared for the el-
mission of the public press, 18 ; against it, 17. Thus the
friends of freedom and the press, after a very hard fought
battle, which lasted until ten o'clock at night, gained the
victory by a majority of one. The board-room is opened on
every Wednesday evening, at seven o'clock precisely.
THE SANITARY QUESTlON.—Yeeterdav a meeting
of the vestrymen of St. Anne's, Limehouse, was held at the
Town-hall, to consider what measures should be adopted fur
the removal of a nuisance complained of with reference to the
'ewer, which empties itself into the Limekiln dock, and to
consider the propriety of addressing a memorial to the com-
missioners at Gwydyr-house, in reference to the defective
state of the sewerage in that parish. Mr. Rugg, upper
churchwarden, in the chair.—Dr. Adolphus Barnet said
the first case of cholera that took place in that parish, when
the country was visited by that calamity a few yeses
was that of the case of an old woman , who was
while employed at her avocations at the month of
this 'ewer. (slimy of the inhabitants stated that the
emanations from this sewer were injurious to their trades.
Butchers could not keep their meat,, which soon becuse
tainted. He had taken the trouble to analyse the water d
the Limekiln-dock, and he found the principal ingredienb
of it to be sulphuretted hydrogen, a deadly pones!, and a
gas liquor. These two gases, taken together, were quite suffi-
cient to produce all the various forms of fever, and to assist
cholera in producing. fatal results. The sewer complained
of was one of the main sewers under the control of the late
commissioners of sewers of the Tower Hamlets, and aoeu-
mutated the sewage from Bethnal.green, Mile-end Old Town,
and part of Spitalfields. He thought that its course might
be carried through New Poplar and under the river Lea to
I the marshes, where it might be applied for the purpose of
irrigation to the land. He moved that a committee be ap-
pointed to draw up a memorial on the defective sewerage of
the parish, and the existing nuisance complained of with
reference to the eawer which empties itself in the Limekiln-
dm*, unineg. the most practicable means of obtaining its
removal,- -end that the committee form a deputation to
prossat the mid memorial to the commissioners of sewers
The ruelutioa was wisely agreed to, when thanks
were voted to the chairman, slid the meeting separated.
THE SAILOR& Hons.—Yesterday the board of
direeton of the above inetiehisa was held in the board-roam
a/the establishment, Well-etrese, London Docks. The re-
pert for the pelt year stated that during the twelve years of
the society's Wows It kfd erinferred on many thousand '
seamen great sad Wing beset. During the last year
4,667 boarders had hew received into the institution, and I
every effort had been web to improve their moral condition
by affording religiose Instruction. The Holy Scriptures
I were pvided, in virile' languages. There was an excel,
pro
id
library et geisha eel lestreetive works. Lectures wen
delivered as the essemosaglae, &c. A schoolmuter gays
free iostrostkm end arithmetic. The
establishowt gam M wrung of 100
indivl-
each of wires bad a esplaste er sleeping berth.
During the hit year, the ambler bad received and paid on
the priests roams of the seamen, 23,41131. ; 4,1951. lid
been sent to themselves or their familial, at their own homes;
while, in the amber beak, he May lam, stood 2,2881.195 71.
to the credit el thelenhes. Loot year's expenditure left a
balance in hand at wet 7001.
RAILWAY IRON.—The vessel, New World, arrived
from New York, has brought, in addition to 604 barrels
of apples and a variety of other articles of food, 149 tons
weight of railway iron; whether an original importation,
being consigned to order or returned British iron, was not
specifically mentioned. The vowel, John, K. Skiddy, also
arrived from New York, has brought, in addition ton large
cargo, comprising every variety of American provisions, 822
bars of railway iron, under similar circumstances, and con-
signed to order. Other arrivals of railway iron have also
Wien plate by the vessels just arrived from the United
States of America.
THE STORY ON THE COMM.—Another deplorable
wreck happened on the Goodwin Sande on Tuesday night. '
She Ymgmed to have been a brig, probably from the
Ineednetial and as nothing can be learned of the crew, it is
eggeobsaill that the unfortunate fellows have perished.
Leak, a very dangerous shoal, the Fa-
master, belonging to Whitby, was
gale of Sunday. The Crew saved
=sfn Wag boat, and after drifting about for
boom szposed to the full force of the gale,
dry wee Mina sa board the Shipwash light vessel, and
dare min ditty ramie! on shore. Early on the morning
of the 7th, the
_Aritams, Mr. Quinn, captain, said to be
Wft:tre IWwWit. weal ea @heft,n between Bomestie and
. The wee Wheheme emisavemWg tonsure
the Ives al all ea bated, lout me own, The ethers saved
tasemesivsa The mosaateitosa Falmouth report the shipping
to havosallautesverakr la *at district. The Duke of Cunt-
beillnleeneship Irma Leedom had arrived there, after encouo.
Wines& tempsheswaweather. Sheloataman and a portion
Ohre 'kW mega The advice' from the different ports all
weak of the eldest Ratan of the gales, almost equal to
die sad Unisons ht rel. ISMer po The barque Attain, bound
I teem Itt. Itvol, at the time the last
account Weelobes received hest Holyhead, was observed to be
riding cretabis the Deblois's.' Bank, having lost her fore-
man MA resissere_ Lbat, at that time, it was supposed that
she would Mk* led on until ass IMO rendered. A
loam ken Beasmarie has the following:—" The wind is
iltittrt blowing. The barque Amelia, Atkin-
son, friss. for Liverpool, is on the Lavin Sande,
7=Neal" with km of rudder and keg, and is full
19. The master and crew were tam elf the ship by the
life isost„sad boded at Beaommin The Mesmer Duchess
of Bent, temaDablin for Liverposi,bes pat la ham Ike coals."

IRELAND.
Dimas, Dsc. 8.
There is an approach to amity between the parties
which divide the city and the corporation—a feeling
which the Earl of Clareadon will do all in his power
to extend. At the last meeting of the corporation a
memorial to his excellency for the externs= of maul-
Icipal rights was almost unanimously supported, the
conservative party tendering their adhesion to the
principle. The improvements sought are just and
reasonable, and wad not have been withheld in the
framing of the 3d & 4th Vic., c. 108-9, had not mu-
tual discord and distrust divided the civic community.
The following are the amendments urged in the me-
morial The reconstruction of the wards on the
priof the 39th and 40th sections of the English
; and to carry out the reform it is pro-
mptasTlG—t two commissioners should be appointed—
ana by each portion of the council—repeal
and con-
sorvaillve—who shall appoint an umpire, and if they
should not agree, the power of selection to vest in
Vie Bari of Quesica. 2. 'rho Wagon of the

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