The Express.
London, England, 1849-05-01 00:00:00

a eleasestio parliament they as mold bane left the
pulpit to starve u they were them Awing. An Irish par-
ent would hue peremptorily sasamoned beak the ab-
sential wield ham put an embargo on the uportalleu of
estae alai bum shopped all the distillerios. Thom were the
widdi would ban stilled the emeirsessy.
.I.llnot per)
Imslao!m what Ireland had dam Is a=l
f
Clle ls IM, whim wo wore thrummed
Mika by the Friedi. the Ilia puliomeat mood
111 l mesa mud easily of MOM to maim ht Weise
thaws. He seed Ida saw me to forgot !reload la
het dhleom bed set to hut themselmin bat to make those
Meatus who meat Medi weemey abroad utters to their ewe
gland maisa tisk bealehhai people. He ominrodlbe
ede masilisi tibia' shoal! payout the Dieli hum
by *somas or kw** the seas At
It hst the beim
Ib Ameriesum mil heath night bet wadi
mild* is the end be as ilatrestior to loud as to
Irehead. -

W. I. O'CONNELL rese to against the destrlee
set
laid dews as to the esperier of the of Wider.
He wished she Se retest the ezpressed by
the hos. member Ise that a repeal el the salsa
would be sqviiaboi is agssallea. He we the sere sosiess
se de this beams be Wined is
_selesequeoes of the
sire is whisk LAM bed litielmed by the parerseseat
of Negbod, the Mists eassifily would as lest, to easy shone, •
resew boo dasselis pellueset. Is the ddid_ &eh b•
wished to mod spebot the word= OM gnaw
of ateoey were useblia. They bed beat melees blw,
bagasse bewlielse4 sod Ibr that moos eel".
He had bees lied IS best Me amble lord et the bead of the
goviresseat soy thee be did as Wind to coshes kb suit !
soot to 6.0001. •• west. but be souk, have whited to beer the !
settle hod answer seherwbe Shea by a jelte the modest !
sad patrietis ef the noble lad the member !
for Detre. It w laeoubeat ea pediment, before
misktaitieg sosseures of 'idiot ferviso isr celestial piiiey,
9
however fopesesat sod preemie& to deal with this, Ishii was
the toostolai evil 'et en. Perlialkat were spading I
snow hw amogli so sew palms sod pellet beibiloss,
while they to send thee anisessee whisk WO NNW
:art° hese die_
hdl Pee& ben stervetiest, without the se- !
ref Ibis ter repsysiest by those miss were !
already redessd to a stets of digress .seedy above those '
he whose relief the sassy was to he raised, sad who, if
this rote la aid was widwowl, would speedily be brought
Jaffa to the sew local. (Hoor, beer.)

DUNIFIS wardOs home that the esetwity of this
rub in aid would pore debwim, far the people had not the
moms of paying. Um than ass-half of Ireland would re-
quire relief., so this the whole row lame lon as dm Mawr
leek TM pew* evils would sever be removed
rakes they fandementally shared the posulaw.
In the bill whit* bad been= istralmed there were
maw Cesium of widget be he hared It did
sot go hr enough Is West say NIP* Tim niszimara
rate to imbed moos as good, bat m more so in principle
then it mesa he in insides. It wee geed as laying down
the pried* that yes should only tan say ono part of the
mashy to a metal& mama far tM relief of tlis poor, end
that beyond that amount the.bsedesehmid be genera
The home Mew divided—
Poe tho third media(
disinet It

The-bill wee thaa reed a tidal time. Oa the title of the
bill Wei pet,

Col, ItA:WHOM protested naiad the title as being Mesa-
@latent with the encietmeaL The object of the bill was to
apportion a particular rate to 411110 pert of the United Mag-
da= suly, bat the title of the bill referred to the rater a
general rate. New, be would mimed that the word
" separate " be substituted far the word " geseraL"
eilepted Me words " general rate," it wesld imply
U
that M was general over tie whole of the traded
Limping. TM reuses he and ethers bed append
maleare were, ink that these pietism of the wont*
over *Ma the rate would extend were Many of them Mt
little tsar in putties than them foe which the mehlanse
wee desanded ; and secondly, because they believed that by
levying this rate they would be jeopardising the weeklag of
the poor law. (Hear, hear.) As MN who bed sepperted that
law in all its stages, and who was deeply tatmeded In its
well-weridar, he regretted mob that this rate &add be
mixed up with the peers' poor rate. He believed the gum-
dm now in Ireland was, how this rate could be best avoided.
He would suggest another alteration in the title, whisk he
did not .epos would be objected to—that alter the word
" reds*" the weeds " end other mare " should be inverted.
It wculd then read, " An ad to make temporary provision
for a separate rate in aid in arnica other more die-
Mend melons end electoral divisions is Ireland," to.

Lord J. RUSSELL was of opinion that the word " mo-
ral " was not open to the objections advanced againstit by
the hoe. and gallant Readarea, end for that reason he
woold oppose the t.
The faliodaaat was negatived without a division, and the
bill wee pond.

SUPPLY.

The Mese that wont late boiiiiatittse of Supply, Mr.
Daises is the ask.

iCetoliCieriTke .Ot« Were agreed to :-
138,2141. for defrertei the Warta of the alms of the
Admirsity.
9,7721. be Warfel of the cetera of the Reeord-ale.

24/1471. for salaries of the offices of the scientific depart-
ment el Use as al istalathonata.

Upon the sees el 137,2871. Ibr salaries of ties 'Soars of
the naval sslabildsissete at ham Wag imposed,

Mr. COAST delemled the Akers elthe dockyards from
a damp of pesailim as
had bees alleged against them
tome time siege by as lea. member of that home.
He said that revhlene bad bees made in the dockyard in-
etrustless is the years 1886,1816, 1839, and 1844, with the
view of pertecting the Internal management of the establish.
meats in question ; and from his own knowledge he could
state that the dockyard 'Mean were a amseirstioas,
Sodom body of me, deserviag of the thanks of the armatry.
Sir F. BARING believed there never bad been any inten-
tion to met a perms] imputed= ayes these °Meets, bat
undwabtedly them might lam bees embeiess upon their
parts, resdering imprommteste sesseary.
The vote wee wood to.
UP= vets. Wag _yrirield of 24,8731. for the eabriee or
the °Seers of her maleety's naval establishments abroad,
and 414,7621. to defray the tes of artisans and labwerers
is the gavel astablialunests at ham,
Mr. COBDEN engesesed a here that the eight hes.baro.
net (Sir F. Bring) would pertness thew veins ma the
hoe. eareita he Mane. (Mr. Hume) was I. hit pine to
mon eve nmahmen of whin be had 111•• sedoe—ese
fee the Maths tithe rumba. et shah* 1.1 s.
the reins*. of the Mim Ilette i llese end eon
Hie he. Musa (Mr. Mi lnn) lase male telitfo
ur
is.
the Yen win te e melba an* of Amid, whin rendered
na, se hh eneenaeste wen of
=it was rand* to ht the votes to which they
me Med nee nail he wee risen
_ _

7.1111111NG would pressed with ibe VONNWiliik would
affbed the hen. umber an opportunity of thing the sew
al the bones ea the navel estintales apes the bringing up of
fie report
The woes were the agreed to.
Tense of 40,7 W. hr milkers la the naval establishments
aimed, sod of MAUL 4the messes of naval stores,
1/4111 ales speed 6.
Mr. CONDIN said tint with of neon to the char& of
.aiseelest the sheers of the dockyards. ail dues Erl ll
eesbees who bed lobe pact is the esessioetka el
the sables& het year woo setbied that *we edited no
pride hr soy sash ispereliss. (Hem. beet) DM then
wee a senses_. of mike in *sir Wads that She =a-
:Mddle Issitynode hod boa eneusively &halve ;
oirelleeed that a eembelen er a sensmitsse bed been
pSe mho *sirs wed plow Ow MlNbighglift
si Ow assent It wee serempoil
that the sleek &oh= =and *et mbar
&MI le ferried eat ; be lobbed the dibt Mrs=
to stele the result of these impleyounts.

Sep. BARING said thins brim bad ban MAO late
all Ike yards, asi that limo Pipet —runt spa lid in-
quiry bad boa aimisd Ida MYR Id& arum
A vela of MASK lades boa la Jam dm
aiaryas af the naval 01211161.019,

!Cr. PAGAN eamadabai that if may 77K was
iarstied la this VAS the Easel sieddidtmeihr Zambia-
Use. The made et shah aqp.mlibms beausea be tee GSM-
tries hewed sae e 1 be almeger peamle d maspialat
Weser paella The mum vela vas aa admi-
lie Ihminda of
thesseade IMO meal he Vissairliseralltbmeale at lame
sad abroad, sr ses Israbias of midi samba baba; s.d
bet them was so piste
wise lb* paMb mrimillems maid
be VIM 1161.16, mad misally dlelimmed Ora la be
beer= at Osoli. Is the year lib Lad dadaist bad
prod bat alsimi Mame should be at Seedisaw-
lbe. mai alba* 10,0101. bai bassi sided he dr
$ small mesa ribs mat mly was erpladed,
was aim ma* alembaed.

No F. BAILING lid • INfralig rospoodag this bad
owl • aloosallimace tbo maim TM wity won
imam ma realm to cony out pougooal pm It Raul-
=NA so sosa IMP tam Mb ono podiaat what was
ea Meads& would be oriel sot by separate
(Koor.) Ho weld mom So Maio that tie u-
praises ia Isabel mu kept *WV wilds limits.

XL J. O'OOII4ILL opyided to the his. and sant
maker (Adobal Bewleh who hod comusaadad ea the
Cork salsa to org. wbadtar gore ought sot to o • hay
aaval llwilkomolkat mesabs there woe
only eat old pord-ddp vailivast at Ow awe of Cork, sad
die woo sum* a esatsepalis mod that whoa la the naval
swim do was called the halms Ildiete." (A Issib.)
BOWLIS woe vaderolood to sy that OWL was
well ollaelal kat • and He
=late Math that the owed ail Mae
son to the ergaiorlty et the , rad Oat 11'
load wore hit delbessien ea bar elowelleaS
oat waribro WSW be hasped apes amensteat tad the
shertaisheod pilliskaft who bad shield ova a Moth of
ttdap, H. lamed Ito show. by reforwthe to Em-
ma. that the bra. amber Ow noatroo• (11r. Hume) had
ineolgly preadult is nada the any to • doe gate of
'Haag. The youslisa ma, whet was • deo state et GS •
dime La diawarriag oath • saWeet, kola oat Orley,
to aatteolby of arowaist. en Shim *miss 'easily Mord
abed as lawiesead dipuldis ea the part et the world to
wllle &palm by semdiellea far aid of by oho weed.
Ho woo shaid that wait atoassititas were quite
sad that as ralaitioas meld -be gaily awls la tie navy.
kw" thik 1.
=alwirergtesPiesZsivis LIP --
rtisleglite.l7 tare:rens to dam Mob malmata who ailed
*images ma of yam. hat who wan atillloll4 ragas-
dor pendiliss. w simald seas hi a prey to other pogrom.
The boa. sod plant goatima era reseeded to review
the oft at ear is 1794 WI la se Iwo a lose of video as
to Nader It elletheld7O• I= hi 'Path Ho
west ea le arias thaaken art what ohs*
Bight hews op* aid that it vie the duty et thatP=

- .
as theizet el tat thelemak itneeter. teem!kcearobs,
dm, as al* cite the Miss IS eastifterihe sad
melee. Oa hiefilelast,hy nethiet Pt lb/ am beat, qg
angles re ea the ghat.
beard ef The to MN
le Naiad thakauthEe fat madam bed beta' Wpm* list I
awed forte; we bed beat Molaishieg vela -
Kr. HENLEY repotted that the pleat admiral eittali
site eseateseace to Um desire expressed- by- boa eeathaes•
ea *pettier sift for isoreselag oar sera eelablielisetW
as his that k would be beaelitiel 10t1W-
ie eery
is peztlealar, to do ea lialetikeva
lore of tiles
.establielmsatt bailie required, ha &Nam
sad • • dote

them were already tee may, of theM, • Peat st
maw theeelep wmressessiM wasted. la war dgy amok
be weal, his sew they were net. Indeed, he saw
the usey eMishates Were those ft justify the rregpet
the lea. sad 'Whet admiral that the any was
Anger, hear.) The expseres ef our sexes =
Cr4were iamb tee Web, sad vastly
11813 sad 1814, although the pries of Mores di
was somperadvey mob peals. H. hellevoilM=
rZt were Napo Is the right divers. fee re-
tleseseeet el our 11111 la thouskt they mght
go hrthee whir tat all Mr the ellotemy of the Ne-
vem He was he luring fewer solohliamusb, sad moue
work dose la them. (Rear.)
Mr. CORRY said it wasted Mr bias the naval sodmim
of 1814 sea entrust to these of the premed day, teems the
West at the war had sot this mom& Bat, tak
the tee yams hem 1818 le Mt the avenge aimed
woes wee 8,141,0001 la the flea yews hem 18411 W 1818 1.
wee 7,803,0001. Bat he dd. Mbar puled they kW, it al&
the le the mut expeaditure, a vete 0471,0001. he the am
tweet pease warder. They bed 80,800 men, while lathe
tenser period they bed sell 14,700. They had ales el&
dorsal penalise to pay febresnwiell Hospital, which redesed
the nudes of aged szpsediture over the know paled
to 921,0004 Taber fate atemeat also the emombr
of bolding sew ships of the Use, of mesas. s
steam navy,
veto
of stems beats, he Wan
say the veto of the hatter enespdag those him
was km than front 1818 to 1 .
Viessunt BERNARD *molt the ham membee lr
Oxfordshire hod dealt rather malady with hem
opposite, who bed put in a dohs for Cork bmberNlC
harbour was several IWO hem the thy ef Cork,
aid thank,* maid sot so immediately intameciart
m the beneerable member sappers& He "
Reread) sailed ea the 'evermore to carry Mae
offset Lard Auckland's mewls, oe meek bleier yentas,
needy that Cork harbour would be found most modal I.
time of war is • naval stades, sad ha ever been esteemed
by meal seen as a plass of the peeled imperious,. Its far-
WON were now I. a dilapidated Mats; and, for a trifling
aesi, it scold be made luwspahle. Re trusted that no
tzleedealt:faseo /or wetly. Mgr the hoes
hnloan cuil Tuner:lett
Woolen end of Ireland, that a Bantry, re-
quired to be improved ; if new, it would not east
one Laths much sa la a time of war, whoa they would be
put late a state of defame.

Hr. HENLEY explained, sad repeated hie eoeviedoa
that the asenagassat et the dorlyude was set so eaccesekal
se fa 1814.

Mr. CORRY said the effleparken was not emir* fair;
for the impasse of kindles ships was almost as peat is tine
of pesos ria wet.. la the letter tine, the ampere of belle
irk dike forward night be greater ; bet IS was *rim that
budding smut be carried ea Ready as vigorously he rim of
pesos.

Mr. HENLEY raid he bad respired the gross asount,
sad did not see why the expenses should now be greater.
Col. SIBTHORP ooraplainad that the estinsates had been
brought oa usespeersodly, it being supposed that the debate
ea the Irish bin would occupy the aresiag. It was probably
wider tide eappoitioa that the hers. amber for Montrose,
who had mural notions as the paper, had valirded.
(Laughter.)
Aa How. Mown* raid he was unwell.

6OI.tiIBTIORP—It we. probable that seamy =tentless of
the goveroment were new domains their dlk eteektop and
cops, with &view to making their appearasee is a more
lliaot smoothly. (Laughter.) As mummy was the order of
the day, he thought there only ought to be three lords of
the Admiralty, instead stein; bat he would not oat down
the finks a single expense. If he was too late to more that
reduction, he would give soda to do as us the bringing up
of the report. He hod no wish to tateriere with the ell-
eieasy of the Adairelty, mu would the reduction of the
board from six to Wee have that effect. He also thought it
would be well to iodate the salary of the Ant lord some
ten or twenty per asst. The darks, pnerally speaking, were
ill paid.

Capt. FITZROY, who was indistinctly heard, was
eadentood to say this he rappeeead the muss the Admiralty
had punned is having • stoma reserve, sad *sepia
their vnyemeats generally moasseical. The statements
by the late Secretary to the Admiralty, is that
=l, paw% as to the myth* of the last year, he eendiered
somewhat soh& Ile disapproved of the motile of paylmr
=.lto commanders of the eery far frologlag bone
. he thsaeht it was plai them I. a pailkaimsesty
woothY of them, sad biped to see soma other plan miepted.

air P. BARING saiiihe Admiralty had bees engaged is
inquiries ou the "shiest of coal, to which the has. member
had alluded ; the subject had not bees lost tight of, and he
believed that before long the new plan would be brought
into operettas. The goatee of ftelAt wee a @shiest fbe
some coseideration it had mace than ewes emptied the
attention of the Admiralty; hat they had sot hem able as
yet to comae to any eatirlaceery suadeske.
Sir H. WILLOUGRBY wee massetly peaseeded that oa
many of the item eessidarable lodisation might be elected.
He hand that 1.444,741 ht had bees voted for the Plymouth
breakwater ; while there had bees *waded 1,444,6401.
How was It that a resew ram had been expanded than
bad bees voted t Gs seeder pelts he welted for infxna-
Vow He roma that Om the elemobsela for remits a sum
of ass and a quarter milks bed bees aerated ea
nesterry. Comma sem taught the propriety of having
melt a feels, bat not os so estrasslisary a seale. m it might
have bees Wended, it neemary, afterwards. At all events,
this enemas for the bees and works ought net to have bees
Mewed, until it wee deterudeed whether and to what
piece the powder-stamens should be removed.
. . _ _

Sir W. -140LE8W-ORTH complained that in 1845, 1844,
and 1847, the Admiralty gave 075,0001. as the animate far
theme works, which was incensed in 048 to 1,200,0001., and
that the amount was now 1,300,0001., or more then titres
times the origins! estimate. It might he supposed that the
income wm owing to an extension of the Knit= works,
bat Mr. Ward lied stated to the house that the weeks were
not to be ea half so large a scale as had been et lest mitess-
plated. The works proposed in 1814 differed hem these
tly prejested the foundation of a house differed
hu otira es
seperstrocture. Had parliament known at first the
outset of the works coatemplated, it would sever have sane.
dosed the list expenditure without previously appoint-
ing a committee. There had been great blumo in
the mention of these works. Firm, they were on the
wrong shore ; secondly, there was not a sufficient depth
et waist at the entreses ; thirdly, the eetraase to the har-
borer bring at right eagles to the current of the stream, it
was dregeross to steamers; fourthly, the design was altoge-
ther adrintegent is Wiest ; fifthly, the works were under-
takes premenseely. The works were undertaken on the
mart Awed miesieshoss as to the bowl% to be derived
from Shen. The Wrest of the mosey ezpesded would go
be awe leaving the expense of oar steam navy. By
venue lONE is our estimated expenditure of 400.0001.,
Elirlhied been led into an expenditure of 1,300,0001.
uilelieved that by stopping the works they would save
from 500,0001. to 603,0001. ; and he therefore moved, es as
amendment, to reduce the vote by 120,0001.

Hr. CORIT said this was not the first time the hon.
'man had made such a proposal. The works at Keyhass
WWII undertaken solely lied exclusively with reference to the
safety of the country in the event of war. If there were any
part of the coast whm it was asomary to provide seek a
harbour, it was at Devosport. The question could not,
therefore, be fairly treated, as it had bees by the hos. IBM-
bar, merely as sae of pounds, 'skills" MA pease. He ad.
WIWI that had the gesetisa been referred to a esmeeittee is
die led Wins% It tens probable the wake wield maw
lave been ennuesseed I het as regarded the semullees whisk
had set, he would naiad the has. amber that needy ell
the authorities ware in favour of the massentien et the
works. He polka senates* scald have ben derived lace
omassemeimg die weeks ea a smaller male. In this else It
was not merely batter, but wharves that were malted, and
he did sot *Mk the hove would have acted wisely in pro-
viding acessavelatien ellses *Pat As regarded the
ption that the thawed was ea the weft side, he nut
Vat if a week was to be soodemmed ea • ground while
mated of se week damns* sr 'pass, neymblis week
ever be eveated. As to the estimates, he was perfeatly
to admit that they were net in the het Wenn preps=
pared ; hed the pasties had been to MeV& k the
only web wakes et weeks as were askielly emenstail Ir.
He Anis& that there had hem any WW I= to &mho per-
limpet as to the etre d Leyham beettear, and the iset
pea was that the Admiralty had always year by year sated
la the estimate. what the sue was that dank_ pedea et the
weeks was to met ; and, as the plus wise beam the hones,
Y woe may to am what pietism et OM stn ellesimL
fa W. MOLE/ WORTH ivied OM he had made any
IlliNlatntaat of the nature which the bin. plaftmea had
atteibated to him.

Kr. COBDEN said—Kr. Renal, I beg to Walla the
hes. 'eneasber who Spelt* tress tbe epp.te bombes that
W weneslows whisk eat lest yen yes the navy satiastes
did amain MONO veseenoned tbat the esolraele
already entered Yee by the peasossent Aida 119 NM. I
AttThe
ell
On esaniOws did sit tamwinked* eon at
u MY woe tetelrei to ammAilelelbe verbs st
Inhere. Bet my hes. hind (Sir W. Ilideorarth) is
elite right soviag his ameriarat, bosoms I lidok sleet
h taint thee far a plea et *see weds Ie be hit Imam
parliament, sod se yet we bow bad wise. Mew, hum)
The boa. neater
Cony) le ea ea.
vegeta tor the saethed et la aroma
eat ter pestpea the phs,l6-1 lei= velem will
sever again be oeptod, he k is • meet tilipeedel sac
(Kew, bear.) Aa to the ma eensinelleg a slam
aide atell is Ibis spot, the elaaiMee at last year own to
somehmhs gmetbore wen slink amen Was arm" est
Ike, It Infra bade had nes boom born, it smile sew le
hen ban emiortekia. Then as ample Win mmegb
Perinea* mai Medan, whore then en, al ask
brie amehliimono. Then an quite nee* le kr
W nein et meenships derfoi a peat wee. Bat there is
saw ae peat war. All than prewar awn to be
made be_maildniiee at wok • strum& n that mini Ink
POen 0 ?MAIM b di* NW I ask PR • I** pan to
uma with rehresee
aka payer 11 For ray own
pert, I dray that it le seed your
lait •
seeeeiraet se& waist 0
all. The priests how me steam trim
Ispke Ma moms als= AB an be Imo is s 'be
ea die Clyde, whore We Menem on hen* elamplie I.
bin talon talon en es pee lc The hos. ipeolunea
(Kr. Cony) his oil *ld pa nee allastelhe upon emi