The Express.
London, England, 1851-04-09 00:00:00

rant fur the large amount of I,BOW. still duo fur the poor
rate. There was anothe-r proof of the distress in the fart,
that the 'lumber of co,u hes and publieconv. vanes had di-
minished in a mist extraurdinare manor, an.l of the t•mo
steamers which formerly plied -between Waterford :mud
Ilristul, one had berm gin up, and the nth. r was about
to be given up. Ile thought he had a right to say that a
country that was suffering iu this manner demand, d the
careful attm idiots of that house. Every class—and no class
more than the tabourer—was reduced to the lowest
stain of misery awl poverty by the system
which they ins re following up in Ireland. A
wing gentlesuan who had made great raterifices fur up-
wards of tam fly years in order to serve his party had
written to him on the 21th of Ft bntary thus :—" The re-
port of the minister's resignation has reached Isere, and 1
regret to Lass it to sa: that it Las been received with uni-
versal satislaction. ,Laughter and Clit,:n.) The wigs
lave berm very unfortw....mt., tim the ;:overnment of Ireland.
((Local class.) Tm.le ,mashed—the landlords ruined
OM' tenant. broken down—;cheers)—the labourers in the
pour hews:m—(4:ll,r.; --Ciose of the population who hale
y!
the memos of lemon, tlyiwt out uftbe kingdom by parishes.
(Chew's.) With WI th.s. rosraplications of misery it has
some to pwa at last tivt the Irish tuition is totaily wrecked
god is kit to be &round by its own paupers. (('heers.)
Citks, tow us, and •iliatte 4 are half desolated—was:tub' mot-

t. 4,, • ore anun.Jly :evened to tit. trrountlood tg.ir loran r in.
wasu:..r . tat tla• onnstry Y 10.,7,..nrs or thkvet.
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g...,14 are ustrata with critithial.z.lol thty are Do
sower fli.-Caurgetli for one crime than the) ;w rl. 1130-
th. r 111 bitiCr 1.0 In t Wt.:111. Slieh I.
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the mu:titwh• ut`tit,,c btr.,at-r, that %la: iArmer, cannot

;ivy', al uhrl.t fur fiar, I. 4 thstir pruptry should Ix stoles
,r Ch. it how.. :mod rublu.d.

breaking ha. of L.te become u trequent ur pocket piet,iag
L. I.mulam. (A laugh.) The tide of r migration ha. stea-
dily gum . tenting the winter, and la%t the spring
emigration rummies.- .1 be 7UU per leaving from this
part of the eennet:y." sidiivi The infutifief was
that it wee not tun were tenting the country.
It was tho.e, woo Lad money, and it wa. only the
paupers that were Lft ianniel. (11,...r.) Ile (the bun.
baroact) tietinly :iare .11 eitis Lond Stanley in what he
stated a km nigueeagusuitoug.t hii ow a friends when he Nilet
with great trath mad elwlu, nee, It 21.1.2 he a murk," ob-
served the noble lord, " of the prosperity of the country when
141,0un of inilu•trion. Men, woeten, and children are ft, ttiug
together the wreeles t:wer tortune, tiyiug from penury
and Ware., at home, end carrying with /111.81 what thy
can save out of their diminished capital, and going to
enrich not even the puo,-..iens of the MAW' erown, hat
earryiuu to fun igu and T., al Cular.trk.+ tin it indtts!ry and
their capital, and, in ton fumy ens it may be found, their
blighted ;acct.... too. (Loud tbeere Nits thee eanit,l
with tin ea the ;otter remembrance it eta. lead Um, that
druce them free the land ~ their birth—from that land
which Irishmen, of 33 men on the Met of tLa globe, I
value,l -dna": iron: their friend., tbtir kindred, and
from ever) 416114; that wie. neer and dear to their booms.
(Loud ewers.) lltp MI upon it, nothing but extreme
or the yror.puct of it, could otive trishine a
from their uatise hove. ; cud yet they were bosom;{
them by thou...to (tle:ere.) 1-he parrs rel.:heal
frmu Inland that s sty tiny stated that the en.tonis
retort. showed a elclL.itney thi. yen; of 3i,ntge. ;
and then: b, l en a C:r in the circulat-
ing Mialitlini,/t IIW t math she.
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Wints th. y looked at thcso facts mob:
U.cy doubt that tt., country was is a fcarful
slut.- of 11. . (rnerrs.) If for • com-
mittee to 4.11:c into c0..4.1. ration Ow s.ultjt ct, awl if they

would nut grant it him ,e ssy that tii4 would nut
do tit. it duty. (llear, hear.) lf you say, continued
the boo. bonnie:, that there is no remedy, you
confess your impoteure; you admit that you are
unlit to govern the country. tilear.) ,Night after
night you is, est of your inereusaag revenue ; you boas; of
the great femur. of the tapir.; Co.. isaa,t that free tradu
km unule this cowitry 11w first in the world. Sharie, shume
upon you, fur you have out lreland. Irtland, prostrated,
impairs risked, eletrailesl! (Loud cheers.) Legishitors of
England, win you allow this. country to perish within sight
of pier own shorts, from your impotence, your ignianinee,
or your UnWilitagito“ Wgranple with this awful
Mate of things ? (I:uudi cheers.) You eau boast
that you have pampa eity, but you newt* mention 'related.
You do Out even put it haw the tlucen's speech. I. it MUM
unknown ..and (Ilex, hear.) India is attended to. Your
Can:Mimi pssessimis are Uttllttilli to; 101131 poor-hour?
Iluditiogs .are 0tte13411,1 to—but a whole nation per! hing
before your eyes is uusainieval. (Item hear.) I call upon
you us Uritisim k.aslator,, us Own, us (Item,
to save the
country. (Hoer.) llyini will not, we will not sit tamely
by anil see it parish; but in long as my fa lde rules, can he
beard, I will expos., to you our nii...ry and distress--misery
which bas been brought on by your load legislatiou. (Loud
cheers.)
sir 011111 EN entirely coincided with the bon.
baronet. was glad that lialrusli uniuu had bean
brought 4116111,1, tn.• notice of the how,' the other night,
although he comet not quite approw ui the tunas of
the hon. geutli twin who had mentioned it—pirtie illarly
with re -pact to the VANUA: of the chairman. No tenet
than 20,0101/ p•isuss were in the puorhouns of the county
Char alone; and in ti/A: city of Liaseriak there were 7,1100
permit* in tlw workhouses. That war a fearful state f
things to contemplate, . eon if they only thoug:A on the
actsiration of .41141. A, ii into:tad, and en the
mamery tam thew lout ettatUrtu lewd endure wii.o
*bey met iota tither after ueslis of separatism
and saw how their number had been diminished, and how
ariseralde was the app.:name of tit,- survivors. (Cheers.)
The rtsghg,,...a of the present system was Emu of its win,*
feature... Sts less than in,ooot. lia,l been expended on the
Malt; and that cat une-third ui the amount laid out in the
Irelkf of the ;.our. (Chem.)
Sir W. NONIr.tiViLLIE aid the hon. kironet who intro-
durstl this oscims had dose so in a .itimewitat ingenious
moaner. Ile eoutuela oil by tixina on Ap. rind from which
he said be wooed start, mid by stitiug that between :hut
p 6%1 and 01 • i.e. seat 1.. intended to male a CoMpAti on,
awl to drone the conclusion whirls he wuiud to offer to the
bon,. 'the bun. har•iu•-t .!stash that he attributed the pre•
aeut dbtress ts the to the rep• al of tlw rim has,
amid to the poor tans. After stating that opinion, however,
he cowls ens,' ate att uu on the poor laws and from the
p oral tenor of his sp.. eh it was not dillicult to embeerve
that the Isms. ho .ittributill the whole distress to those
lAlr, (sir N . harem—. No, no.) 11, (sir W. Somer.
silk) would wit bow dwell on what was the condition
of teetotal I.i Isl:/ ; lint to hear the hon. baronet they would
bare sopp.o. el that it ism then lu A state of perfect press
pv•rity - (hear. hear)-I.iit on that paint he need only refer
to his hoe. Iris red the rueiabier for Xac Univrnity of Dublin
113nel:on) to the Lou. :.min r of the city of 1,111,
nutria.) ‘Sir 1:441. rt Et•TRU.4.II. clan were members
ot what was called the Devon isnutaission. (h ear, hear.)
11 • bad drawn a cutaperi•un h,tweva theme two periods;
but iii IL,' opinion of that commission the condition of the
lalsoiring poor, In th • former of tins... periods, was most
w. t. h.,1 aa I d orithog. The hon. baronet Mel then tom-
pue. the AOsouat of rate in 150 and 1,411, oiaitiia•: nibs-
st tin r the in.. rvellilig period. But, by a return which he
(Sir W. Si...servill.) had moved for early this session, the
Chant.: 1113 the pour rate for the last three ye.:re was
shout'. In tile quarters ending on the 31st lfecember,
in Is Its, laitt,outt respectively, the amount of rite was
1110 follow. • ; 111119, SWAN. ; PILO. 247.00 W.
Though this did not show any great state of prsperi.v, it
waseti Irnr.• iniptivienient, and show. :I that
the comparison of the present time w ill 1815, co sit. ring
the period of tiepanic that had int. reamed, was unfair and
entail:nisi to mislead. The numbers on the relief hat ut
the NIA of iae sever.' quarters ti lore referred to tv,,re
follow: ISIS, ..t;,411.10; 1519, 2'41,0110 ; 21;nagin.
(11sar, hear.) Tau hon. baronet had complained of the
system of out-door relief being pat an end to by the IIn•JAUTC
of tier p... ninient. mut yet, while ailmittint: that the com-
missioners huh discharged their duty well, In. had visited

Mama a Ail his inost severe censure.
Sir IL. W. 11.3.111L0:4—Nu ; 1 never said a word agaiait
them.
sir W. sOMERVII.I.E sail the him. learonet 111:1 re-
ferred to Captain Larkins's retorts., and by Molt extraordi-
nary proms, ouch as leasing out the peas, he nude nut that
there was a dcereued quantity of laud in Ireland under
cultivation. Now, as he read the raurns, they showed an
entirely different result. lle had before hint u renim of
the total extent of land under crop., arid the total quantity
of produ.v. in 1817, 'l3, and '1.1; and the quantines were
ea follows: 1817, 5,686,573 acres; 1818, 5,108,062 acres;
1819, 5.511.060 aces.
Sir 11. W. BARRON—Of what?
Sir W. KOMF.ItVILLB—Of cultivated acres.
Sir 11. W. BARRON—The right lion. gentleman has
totally miqopprehended what 1 said. What 1 .tated was
that in cure—iiieluding pow and beans—accorilina to the
returns of Captain Larkurn, there were, in 1817, 3,313,379
wee* of laud under cultivation for these eroi, ; and, Is
1819, 2,171,180 acres ; leaving a decrease el 1,139,620
acres.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the hon. baronet had just
pieked out these three crops in order to shwa a den. limey.
Takina it as a whole, the amount of cultivated land in
Ireland was greater in 1519 than in 1844 and 1817. With
regard to cattle, the hon. baronet had also taken that part
of the return, which suited his purpose, confining himself
to that valuable animal the pig. (Laughter.) The returns
Oftattle, gen•aallv, showed an increased capon in 1849;
and, th, ugh he did not thence argue absolute properity,
be cont. fond that there was some improvement in the last
two years compared with those miserable yeats of the
famine. Then the hon. baronet had branched off to his
own district, and quoted the county secs paid by the city of
Waterford. But the returns showed that this amount was
actually less than it was some years ago. Arguments
founded on returns quoted in this partial way ought not to
have any weight with the house. On a former occasion the
hon. baronet had censured the government in a letter for
the introduction of a bill. many of the clauses of which he
said were copied from a Nil of his own. He could assure
the hon. baronet that not a single clause had been adopted
from his bill. (Rear, hear.) The honourable baronet
had then referred to emigration as a proof of
the distress in Ireland. Emigration wu not a
very healthy symptom ; but they had had numerous
motion, in that house, nut for the purpose of checking, but
of promoting emigration. (Hear, hear.) If emigration
was so great an evil, the duty of the government would be
to check, and not to promote it. On the subject of crime,
he WWI again at issue, relying on the returns before the
house, with the hon. baronet. Comparing, not 1850 with
1845, but with 1819 and ISIS, a decrease was shown ; and
this was the fairest test of the condition of Ireland. The
returns of commitments made by the constabulary showed
the following totals for the months of January and February
in 1819,18.50, and 1851;
1849. 1850. 1851.
January
February 1,686 .... 1,124 .... 960
(Reat, hear.) These statistics were more correct and better
calculated to lead the hoax to a jest coaduaion than thole