The Express.
London, England, 1847-11-30 00:00:00

.4/ go ber, while that arias bill did met empire till de ead of
the aweaww weal.
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de sea ortiso'ri sertaimiL do goleasswet
set shank the Of ereeMlM the pelia.
gaited elk hr ashparer wadi whir Oda, Ida-
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this dis bill le read aha ties. This wall sloe
. seashies is ea molara prep seasidtke. Thera had beet asy=
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progoposed laws the soma wain~ a this la
• . akley) woad papa an sissubesat, sad he
divide the be tram it. It woo, - That tt le est
• jot So the peps et Ireland is enact a °sada assoare
• at the saw dna ragesing to eau* sash seerewas
Is wssld teed to her persimmon% relief." This was a
_.llll i CVO& Thee TM eines. VW say
• hese men had to Ireland time
• Irsrireeit ewe sad ~' eon sodded to the
of
//dead wed at lhigi tea brash asedoet to teott
try.ll@y hod base seseabled agosidly ler the ssidentha
4/Ib, mese of losisad, and the goversaset seta her with a
• sosnive asseare and en indistiaot panda of remedial cam ,
gireissee had slaws that thwegh there may be great
with caseate, these was very little as regarded
f="whmessess. 'Mein be was asked to vote tor a mea-
sure which pve sash vast power to theLassi Lieutenant, he
had , sight se sit what wen the meseares of a vemediyl
salute, tad to an it they were weedy at that character. No
distinct pigmies bad been given by the government. The
. hon. swabs ow sorldale beamed in • bill to emend the
Mallets of landleed and tenant years ego, but it met little
attendee even from the Irish members of that house.'
The dpriseiple of that bill was now aekaowledged
Hs di not exactly understand what wu going on in Ire-
land, but the government had means of information which
le did not poems ; and be thought the results of that infor-
mation ought to have been afforded in well-defined measures
of improvement. He did not choose to give a vote of which
he could not altogether approve. The proposed bill might '
be perfectly justifiable—indeed crime of so horrible • chs.
meter existed in Ireland that there was scarcely any powers
which the government might ask that he would not give,
provided he saw at the same time propositions in the sage
of bills which had for their object the striking at the rod et
the evils of Ireland. In the absence of any mat magentinest,
he felt bound to propose his amendment, and he shewilliske
the sense of the house upon it.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD seconded the amendment.
Mr. BROTHERTON had heretofore always append
coercive measures towards Ireland, unless they were aeons-
parried by legislative enactments to improve the social condi-
tion of the people of that country. He was, however, very
happy to find, from the sentiments expressed to-night by
Irish members, that the proposed measure was not to be
characterised, like former bills, as a coercion act ; and having
the fullest confidence in the present Lord Lieutenant, and
feeling sure that until life and property were rendered safe
in Ireland the condition of her people could not be im-
. proved, he absuld certainly vote in favour of the introduction
of the bill. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. REYNOLDS moved that the debate be now ad-
journed.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR seconded the motion.
Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but
Lord J. RUSSELL interposed, and aid he had
understood it to be the general and anxious wish of mem-
bers on both aides of the house that the introduction of the
bill should not be delayed. Indeed, many members had, he
believed, come down to the hews intending to oppose its
introduction, but after the statement of his right hon.
friend the Home Secretary, declared that they were reaey to
allow the bill to be brought in. If that were the case, be
(Lord J. Russell) submitted that to adjourn the debate (not
until to-morrow because it would be most inconvenient
to postpone the business which his right hon. friend the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had to bring forward), but to
some future day would greatly impede the progress of public
business, and prevent Irish members from having that full
opportunity of considering the bill which it was most cle-
arable should be afforded to them. (Hear, hear.) He
(Lord J. Russell) therefore hoped the motion for ad-
journment would not be persisted in, but that the house
would at once serve to the introduction of the bill. (Hear.)
Mr. REYNOLDS said that he was quite willing to with-
draw his motion for an adjournment, and to reserve to him-
self the right to oppose the bill in a future stage.
Mr. F. O'CONNOR thought that before withdrawing. his
motion the hon. member for Dublin (Mr. Reynolds) might
have asked his (Mr. F. O'Coneor's) permission to do so.
(Laughter.)
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL hoped the hon. member for
Finsbury would not press his amendment on the present
occasion. It was an amendment which might be better dis-
cussed on the second reading of the bill.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD inquired whether, by allowing the
bill to be brought in, be should be pledged to approve it ?
Sir O. GREY enured the hon. member he would not in
the least degree be compromised by the withdrawal of the
amendment which he had seconded. That would not pledge
him in any degree to on approval of the measure.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL requested the hon. member for
Finsbury to withdraw his amendment for the present, and
sutured the hon. member that if a Landlord and Tented Bill
with other remedial measures were not brought, he (lir. IL
O'Connell) would " go the whole hog " with the boa. sew
ber in supporting his amendment at • subsequent sere std
this bill. (Hear, hear.)
The house then divided on Mr. WAILLEY.B amendment:
For the amendment 2O
233-213
Against it
On the question, " That leave be given to bring in the
bill," another division took place at the instance of Mr.
•O'CoNtroe. The numbers were :
For the bringing in of the bill
18-206
The bill was then brought in and read a first time, and the
house adjourned at a quarter before 1 o'clock.