The Express.
London, England, 1865-04-15 00:00:00

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Mr. &Uri Elder, .odiZOribed himself es an fade. 111
pedant gentLecoan, was charged before Mr. D'ltynerezt, 18
with unlawfully asnalting and beating his daughtor, Mks ta
Charlotte Elizabeth Elder, oe the sth ingest, at his rear. a
dance, 19, Almorati-road, Downham-road, lalingtoe.
Mr. Ricketts, solicitor, of Frederick treat, Gray's-inn-
road, attended on behalf of the defendant, and said as the N
complainant we. the daughter of the defendant be thought N
the justice of the case would be met by both parties being LI
hound over to keep Netnews. It WS/ a.pitiele eight to see g
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tftidrar;
the charge, or coaerat to the terms be had stated. gt
The complainant said she would rather themes proceeded, 111
ss she was oot 18 years of age, and wu afraid of her life "
from her father's violence, as he was nightly is the habit of II
returning home in • state of intoxicatioo. On the is
day in grunion, at about 1 o'clock, she was in the kitchen, al
when her father entered and ordered her out. Before she II
(*old leave he caught hold of her in • rough violent way 11
sod threw her into the psusge, where she lay insenaible for It
some time.
In cross-examination by Mr. Ricketts., the complainant
'cheated that her mamma had persuaded her to take these
proceedings. Before he touched her on the day
question she bad called her peps • heart, and had also
told him that he steak. Bhe had frequently told him that
if he touched her she would sand fora policeman and have
him taken up.
One of the servants was called, and stated that she law r
the defendant interfering with Mist Elder, sod he put his
arm round her waist and threw her out.

—Witness—He eared me to keep it, and he said that be
had been in a question (a dispute or row) at the Golden
Anchor.
Crum-examined-1 said at the former trial that Gregorio
sad the *sour were very much alike, and 1 still think
that they are like each other.
Thomas Coedited said—l am potman at the Bonlesaa
titiblio-house, and, on the 27th of December, I found the
knife *ow produed, is the urinal in the oceartlard.
Crass-examined—l did sot swear at the farmer trial that
this was not the keit* that I found.
Mr. Giffard told the witness to be cautious and he then
inquired whether he did not say at she last trial that it was
maths same knife that he found that was produced.
The witness daubed having said this bat admitted that he
said there was • difference on around of the spring being
broke. or loom.
Re-examioad—He gave the knife to • woman named
Miller, and it was afterwards produced by Inspector Potter.
The woman returned it to him and he guy it to the in-
spector.
Guisepp• Ca rani raid—l am • stereotype printer. I
know this knife (the one in question). It was formerly
mine, and I exchanged it with Gregorio for another knife
about ten 'maths ego.
Cram examined—The knife I had from Gregorio is still
in my • The reason that I exchanged was that
Greg o's bade was convenient for my work. It was as
Italian knife. It did not close, and was therefore incon-
venient to carry in the pocket. The knife Gregorio had of
me opined, sad with • spring, which prevented it from
dung after it had bees opined.
By the Jury—There is no particular mark upon it ; but I
am quite sure it is the kedge Oregano had of me.
Mr. Frederick Griffis, an architect and surveyor, proved
that the spot where the knife was found is " the ruins" by
, the little boy Burge, was 130 fest from the window of the
bagatelle-room, and it was 20 fest further from the yard of
the public-house. He was employed specially to make this
measurement for the pumice of the defence.
Mrs. Jane Millar proved that on the Tinieday after
Boxing-day the witness Cowland gave her a knife, which
the thought belonged to her husband, but when he looked
at it he said it was not his, and told her to take it away,
for it had been in the row of the previous night. She after-
wards gave the knife to Mr. Potter. There were spots of
blood on the knife when she showed it to her hothead. The
witness added that this was the first time she had been
examined, and had now been fetched from her work to at-
tend the court.
Ann Sams said—l was at the Golden Anchor on Boxing.
day. I was in what was called the dancing-room or tes-
t mom. The prisoner was there. I have knows him three
or four years, and we danced together. He did sot come in
until between 5 and 6 o'clock, and I bed been dancing be-
fore be came in. I think we dimmed what is called a polka.
(A laugh.) We did not Minh the dance because I trod upon
my gown mid felt giddy. (A laugh.) I saw the prisoner
go out, and it was between 5 lied 6 o'dock. I remained
at the Golden Anchor until the row took place,
aid I did set see anything of the prisoner after be went
away. I maw Gregorio slap Mr. Shaw's (the landlord's) face.
I bad seen him several times before with other Italians.
I heard Mrs. Shaw ask Grego& what he struck her bun-
bead for, and she at the mime time pushed bar husband
away. I know Fawsil, the police constable. Ha was
standing in front of the bee about 5 o'clock, dressed in
plain clothes. Shortly after this I saw Gregorio in the tap-
"
room, with his knife in his hand, and "gritting
his teeth, and I then saw Gregorio's brother go towards the
bagatelle-room where the Englishmen were. At this time
the Italians had armed themselves with pieces of woad, and
I law them make a rush towards the bagatelle-room. I did
sot see the prisoner among those men. In five minutes
Greven came out of the bsgatelleroom without a bat and
looking very white and angry. Hie brother came oat
after him, and his face was cut, and blood was streaming
down mu side of it. I never sow the prisoner after he went
oat, when we left off daunt. We are net at all ac-
quainted, or on friendly terms together.
Cross-examiaed—l do not know exactly how long the
prisoner bad been in the house before we danced together.
Another man came in with him—a man they call Peter.
He is outside. I was in what is called the side-box at the
time they came having something to drink. I did not hear
Sendai say anything to the landlord when he came in. He
and Nome of his countrymen had something to
drink at the bar, and it was after this that
I danced with him. Chunk and the crisooer and
Peter had something to drink together. It was after I had
been dancing with the prisoner that I saw Gregorio strike
the landlord. About twenty minutes after, I should think,
Mrs. Shaw said to her indeed, " For God's sake, Fred, go
in," and he went towards the bagatelle-room, and im-
mediately afterwards there was a rush of Italians towards
that room. I cannot my whether the people who WORSHIP.STREET.
were in the bagatelle-room were endeavouring with IXTILLOIOIIIIIIY CHARGE 01 ROBBERY.
sticks to drive the Italians back. Ido not think that wiffienn Henry Saar, residing, at 2, Denmark-terrace,
all the Italians emended in getting into the bagatelle Victoria-park, and described on the police-sheet as • " gen-
moms and three or four Italians were left behind in the Homers," was charged with stealing from the top of an
taproom. If Greeted° bad not actually gone into the bap. omnibus in the month of October last • paper parcel, the
tellernom, but had remained in the passage, I should not property for the time being, of George Phillips, conductor
have bass able to nee from the position in which I was to the said omnibus.
what hs did. At the but trial I said that Gregorio's brother me. Bad, the solicitor, stated that on the lit of October
seemed in the heat of passion, and that 1 did not see last a pared was intrusted to Phillips, oendoctor of one of
any blood. I said I was too frightened to look. I did the London General Omnibus', dinned to Mr. Saanual
remember at the last trial seeing Gregorio brother's face Covell, Old King's Head, Upper Muni The panel was
streaming with blood, bat I did not say anything about it. Awed on the root, but shortly after pandas Cambridge-
I was not asked the question. Mn. Shaw asked me to Ige heath-gate, where more than one pummer alighted it
and fetch 'laths and whet' I mem beck I baud that some could nos be found. Several persons, however, had
one had been stabbed. I did not see Mrs. King, or any et, as the stated, • " gentleman" take it with him
woman, knocked down. se he deeesodad, and it was hoped that the uportation of
Re-examined—l am quite rare that when Gragorio's the property might have been • mistake, and that restore-
brother came out of the bagatelle-room he had no cap or hat ! tau of the same would Quickly follow. Nothing, however,
on, and that blood was flowing down his face. Gegorio came ! wee hardof either antil meetly, when info...tinn waa
out of the room with a rush and when he got into the tap- given by • discharged servant of his, that led to the
room he said to • man in Eogliab," Come outside," and they present seensetioa. and apprehension of the priaocer,
went out together. I had never tan such • row as this be- who was idsotified by the conductor and others as having
fore and I was very much frightened. I have no doubt got from the roof of the omnibus at Cambridge-heath on
that Oregorio was the first man who attempted to go into , the night in question.
the bagatelle-room, and while be was away the other The prisciped evidence called by Mr. Beard is support of
Italians eornmalanbeethale ail the forma mad lista in the the charge was that of the prisoner's former servant, before
taproom. ; alluded to, who swore that on the night spoken of
John Mqpi, who was examined through en inter- I his Entiner returned home and, pointing to a urea
neater, naM—l am the brother of Gregorio !dogrel, lyi on the table and directed" SamL Covell, Old King's
and I I'm with him et the GoldenGoldenAnahm oe Head ad, Upper Clapten," told him to open it. Witness
this night between 6 sad . half-paid 6 o'clock. I line's' due "namely paroaind a black frock coat, waistcoat,
did not go to the house withlinahel (Pm! . eindltrouers. Prisoner remarked he had aunt poined,
him there' I heard him say t° ._ landlord, " '" but made four, and afterwards burned the wrapper of the
ou that want to take six Italians—thee I take dr English articles, and theew the ref we into a duet hole. moreover
y like you." and he struck him • slap in the face immediately. the prisoner anbeequeetly sent witness for • relative, and
The landlord west round by the bar to mother room. sod give him the clothes, with instructions to dispose of them
I then Meet to the door of the bagatelle-moms mad attar' for what he weld get. When croes.examioed this witness
wards inside. The moment I went in I was knocked sa • that on being turned from the prisoner's house for
down and beaten with sticks. I was the only Italian in the something he had refused or omitted to do, be gave info,-
room at first, but afterwards I saw Menu& come le, and nation of what had fallen under his knowledge.
then my brother Oregano. The English were beating me Mr. Bald requested a ramena, calling attention to the
when they came in. I called out, " Brother, help me, other- fact that, despite the doubt that might possibly attain to
wise they kill ma." the servant's testimony under the circumstances, the
Mri Lewis—Did yon see your s brother anything on accused had ben distinctly sworn to as having bun on the
this
roof of the °amine.
Wileme—l saw him.fisehlees and "elms amlahm sawhim Prisoner's attorney offend to put in bail to any amount,
pull out • knife and give • thrust with it at some one who saying
bit client ,r....atied, ender the Irmo( ale gather, to
was standing
c as
to
him, mid " then me Imam tome Nome themes& of pounds, independent of his owe household
mad made • stab at anotherr man. and I nui out of the room property.
and did pot see any more. I was wounded an the head. Mr. Beard
re=ly objected, and prisoner, not being
(The witness exhibited the mu that was oreariceed by the glowed the privilege, was locked up.
wowed, to the jury.) I had so hat ea when I rail out. I
saw my brother &boat five minutes afterwards. He had no
hat on. We west hack to the Gaols Anchor and asked At leant 8,000 enemas will, adwirdiag to, a Pann-
ier ear beta, and Mrs. Shaw gave them to us, and we both airman }ounial. 14 week the Peasayisesisa ail
Wt. I parted withal beads" sees aftwrwarits, mai was regime this summer. .

lo &sewer to Mr. Ricketts, the wittiest said she had re-
°sired notiee to quit from the defoodont, and she had
told him that she should not do so, is be did not mime
her. Whoa her mistress told her to go eke might do so.
Mr. D'Eyoooort (to the complaiaant)—What is your
father'

Complainant —He can best answer that himself.
The defendant—l am an independent gentleman.
Mr. Ricketts said the wane that had been taken by the
complainant was much to be regretted, and contended that,
ahe having disobeyed her father's orders and called him
Dames, and told him he stank, be wee justified in re-
moving her from his cm If the defendant were com-
mitted matters not be improved one iota.
Mr. D'Broonart said the defendant must enter into his
reorgoisanows in the sum of 401., and find one surety in the
sum of 201., to keep the pease for three months.
The defendant was locked up in default.

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Mary King,Wodajeastila;nali a; a aernut out of
place, was charged before Mr. Knox with assaulting with a
knife police-constable W. Camps, 99 C.
The constable said—A little after 2 o'clock yesterday
afternoon I was requested by a person connected with
Gloucester House, Park lane, the residence of the Doke
of Cambridge, to remove the prisoner from the doorway.
The prisoner refined to go away and made use of very
abusive language sad threatened to let me have the knife
she had in her band if I touched her. I tried to re-
move her and she then made a stab at me but the knife
only went through my coat and did not iojur• my arm. I
then, with aesistanee, took her into custody, when she
again said she would rip me up.
Mr. Knox—Was the prisoner drank !
Covetable—Nay sir.
Prisoner (who had anther vacant look)—I had been to
church in the morning and walked about and lest my way.
I asked a woman the way to Regetitatreet, and she told
me. I then went and stood in the doorway, and after-
wards sat down on the steps and ate my bread and butter,
using a knife, when a man came op and told me to leave,
and I refused, as it was raining. I said I would leave when
I liked. The constable then came up, and took off bin
cape and doubled it up, and thinking be was going to strike
me I used the knife. I had no piece to go to, and I sleep in a
Refuge at night, and my clothes were all wringing wet. I
knew no reasonwhy I should be compelled to go into the
rain.
Mr. Knox—Why did you strike the constable with a
knife.
Phonier—Remus he took up the thing he bad on
his hack.
Mr. Hoox7.HaiT you any friends

Prisoner—No, sir.
Mr. Koos—Yours is a dismal story, certainly.
Prisoner—Am I to bs prevented standing oat of the rain,
when I have done nothing? The knife is my own. I
bought it.
Mr. Knox—Have you been io service?
Primmer—l have, and lately cleaned • house for Mrs.
Oonnorty, of 47, Lower lielgrave.plsee.
Mr. Knox—l must have some inquiries made about you,
as it is a serious matter using • knife. I will seed you to the
House of Detention, and as I have some doubts u to your
being to a use state of mind, I will make the commitment
so that the medical °Blow may have his attention directed
to you.

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