The Express.
London, England, 1847-12-15 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING. DECEMBER 15, 1847.

mamba directed that after the next avoidance a sum of
1 poratoald be paid to their fund out ef the revenue
d wit. The rights of the Kemal blimp were
by the act of parliament--(ironiml alas M "Maar,
Taal therefore the alteration could not take plate in
his lifetime. This, however, was not the fault of the Kale-
imbed commissioners, but of the act of parliament. The
must recollect that the ecelesiastiml comma= was
esly formed in 1836, and that parliament, in placing powers
b their panda, had coupled it with great restrictions.
pages is their resent system were, in certain partienlars,
pa 'wept, desirable. But the commismoncn had the law to
.inner, and if the law was imperfect the law should be
altered, hot the comunisionera should not be blamed. With
to the hon. gentleman's two first resolutions, he
Heald meet them with the previous question ; if he premed
the third, he must meet it with a direct negative.
111:MB said thLt the hon. member for Cockennouth,
mused to show what was the intention of parliament with
eiperd to episcopal allowances, and the Horne Secretary said
digit wee the fault of an act of parliament that three 'titm-
ice, had not been carried out. Well, then, if they bad not
beta carried out the Home Secretary waste blame for not am-
igo it. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr Home) well recollected that
yarliament had arranged Mat 139,0061. a Tear should be
apportioned for episcopal incomes, and all beyond that re-
ceived as bishops' revenues was to be applied to the gag-
natation of small livings. The question was, if that had
blot done or not ?
After a oeutence from an hon. member (said to be Mr.
Dcrek.e), vibe paid atribute to the bishop of the diocese in
which he lived,
Sir It. H. INGLIS said he was not surprised at the course
taken by the hon. member for Montane, who had always
been consistent in his opposition to bishops. The principle
of that ben. member was that the church was very corrupt,
and that her corruption arose from her wealth. If corrup-
tion did arise from wealth, the hon. member ought to be
very corrupt, fir report said that be was extremely rich.
(.. Oh," and laughter.' But though not surprised at the
bon. member, he (Sir R. H. Inglis) was surprised at the ad-
dreces of other speakers. They had proceeded on the
moraption that the church had no right to her pro-
perty. Now he (Sir R. H. Inglis) had always maintained
dist the property of the church was as much her own as the
property of any other corporation. In many instances the
property of the church had been exceedingly well applied,
sad it ought to have been sta•ed in the counts of the debate
dist the Bishop of Loodon bad set the example, which might
be advantageously followed by all, of raising all his vicarages
to tho value of 2001. per annum. He had heard with great
tern and pain some of the allusions of the hon. mover, es-
penally his reference to what he was pleased to style a
gambling transaction." He warned the hon. seconder
that he must not consider he was a friend to the church if
ke seconded recommendations so supported. Hewes thank-

hl that the church estahlishesenCdid not depend es ea
weal vote of that house, but stood en its foundaties. eel
three was no period in which the hierarchy did not medeleit
is position as the firth body in the state. The church wee
need on to contribute to the spiritual dietitians,
sad they did so by this bill; they were EMMA sinC
saliog donor., and not pensioners He dolma the eso et
that heave for the church, as a great .eig
with their property as fairly as any lay. is ffie
heeding'. It was said that the bishops in all dear edeethe
tens had been mistaken in one way. - Could say see=
say possible motive for this ? Twere They not to
them as pauper pensioner+, or stipendiaries whe asked for est
must dole ; but they held their estates as their own. U
an act of parliament required them to give up a portion of
their revenues they would do so ; but he maintained that
huh by such an act you might deal with the property of
the Bishop of Durham, there was no more right to do ea
than there was to deal with the property of the corporatist
of Durham. Neither of them had received their property
from the state, and until that was so the state could not deal
with it. The question at issue was, whether by the opera.
the oldie act, the bishops were to he considered as propels.
tors or stipendiaries. If they were proprietors, and were to
age over a certain sum, and did not do so, a case wee
mho out ; but as he believed that was not so, he was girl
the previous question bad been moved.
Hr. W. P. WOOD said that the incomes of the bishop
mar exceeded the averages which were, taken in 1837, bat
seeediag to the provisions of the act, the payments weft
assesarily made under those averages, and so he
the commissioners were not to blame. He thought
Settle church property should be available for church
rem There wee 26-0601. at the disposal of the
ter whether it was to be applied to the creed= finer
iihoprice, or to increase of spiritual instrneties, the meld
ass say. To both of those uses it might well to milisd, kr
bed were needed. There was by no means a sslemileeey of
liseepi in this country, and there might be ea lemssse of
those prelates, although not in the House of Lards. There
was a greet want also of working clergy. The house ought
m beobliged to the hon. member for Cockermouth for
kriging forward the question, so as to give them such an
Slight into it as would lead to • revision of the act of par-
Went. He could not support the resolutions.
Lord J. RUSSELL had heard with pleasure the
lithe boo. gentleman who had just sat down, and bes=
it with the more pleasure became it tended to lead the home
tea decision. The hon. gentleman said, and truly, that the
mover of the resolutions was nit well founded in his 'opposi-
tion that the act of parliament had not been complied with.
Although the act was defective, that was no reason far sap-
psing why those who were entrusted with the coming ft
moo execution had not fairly applied themselves to their _irk.
That suppoeition was not well founded, and the hon. gentle-
man declined to vote for the resolutions. Any one who per-
used the act could come to no other decision. The other
question as to the manner in which the act was formed, sad
the made on which the incomes of the bishop should be met-
tied, was a very difficult one ; end although he (Lord J.
Russell) could see defects in the present mode, still the
ethers which had been suggested were open to grave objets-
time If it was mid that the bishops were to buy over the
sarplus beyond the 8,0001. or 5,0001. a year allotted for Auk
krona, they were deprived of any inducement to bestow
ears on their estates. If, on the other hand, there was is be
a common fund and the amount paid to them out of
it, it would be liable to the objection that they
would become rtipendiariee, and a change w
be made in the character which the bishops had
held as having their estates at their own disposal, whelk
was a far different tenure to that I salaries. There berg
each objections to that mode of distribution, be would dray
that there were objections to the mode which bad hem
adopted. It was impossible to say that it was the intention
tithe act that when the bishops had a certain income allotted
to them, they should receive a greeter one. Or. the other
hand, there would be great difficulty in saying that a Whop
should pay a certain sum, and if his income did not awe
melt esarplus, that he should be forted to pay it by actions
et law, ta order that the act should be complied with. The
hon. gentleman the member for Cockermouth stated that
the Bishop of Durham had been asked whether he would
receive the income allotted to him from the commissions's,
es whether he would pay to them the surplus required of
him. No such proposition was made to the Bishop of
Durham. He (Lord J. Bauteell) was in the come
atmou, and he remembered that the Bishop d
Durham left it entirely to the ecomalsica. They
decided what should be paid, and he agreed, at ones, to par
it, and there never was any other ent. Ho re.
waded that a proposition was made by e late Babe et
Ely. He was to receive 5,0001. a year, and to pay ever
2,1001., and, after two year's experience, he stated that his
Scores would not allow him to pay 2,5001., and he asked the
ansimioners to take all his property tar then hands ad
It pay him 5,0001. a year, bat the emembiseas were pre-
dead by the act from meriting I& pereoltion. This wee
a proof that there were breamskasso on both sitiottii
amotiames, a bishop reared we NM the income
le boa, he sometimes land it Idle& eingsEe
:rhat was re-
trial r hiss. As it weahl be for the hon.
amber for Cochineal& te Wee" Me to wpm to a
mealution. declaring &at the sat bad not been eared out,
be (laird J. Russell) scald "sly say thoit he wee net ready
it Plage himself to ~et a bill to shesigethe presort mode
of dierhation. He ml t think it defective, but be did mot
as clearly any other arts by which it could be done.
Be spud with the hoe. ignadessaa, the member for Oxford
(who said that there was is orsories of 1:6,0001., but the eal-
editions of the commesissise made it only 16,0001 )—he
speed with him, that there were plenty of ways in which
Na, whether 26,0001. or 1441111., could be applied to the
haft of the church. He (Leal J. Russell) maintained,
ink had said last year, that time was not sufficient epia-
tyll soperintesdethe for the feerseming population of the
atentry, as, with mesa to dr ausiski clergy, in relation to
te ai asso oft& peep* them woe by no means enough
thattheft, There 11112 idle ems* es meupy the eurplua
thud , and it We be a matter for parliament to
etesider low the present arreememest could be improved.
lord R.OROSVENOR ressmaraded the withdrawal of
the resolutions, and hoped that mat ef the object of kis
Ifriend would be gained by the akillilliell which had
plum
Hr. ACILIONEY did net believe that the seembrosers
bad carried oat the intend= of the set, sad he use pr pm&
is support the whole of the resolutions. The hems sad the
swami owed a debt to him hon. colleague he lien kr-
an" the question. It was an endue talhalpdso th ,
that this question was brought forward he en
dna
rpint to the church. The now embed in doe
had been oonferred epos by the state, and be red
the the state bad a nght to meddle with it kr the braid
of the public. Ia far this had bra already shmely Se
ApPropriation Act in Ireland, and the very slater rider
_wkirb the Frionasitical Containers has boon emollealed is
this Portion of the realm. He objected to dr amillollia of
the rommiaion. Originally its members bed bees few, sad
of them the laymen farmed the majority, 'Ed the elariestre
the minority ; but now the numbers had bees iesemeed to
4-113 unworkable communion, and of these II awe e'er-
Mans and 22 onl laymen. Unless the immunise amid
Pledge itself to attar the oonatiratisa of the eariesadoe,
w well as to amend the status now is he. be loped the
bar meld give its lull approbation to the motion of his
Nhaariullif said the right has bonnet the Home
bad dealt so fully and so pomady with the 0104
"'union, that he (Mr. Omallears) did not arra to
himself upon the home at erg lon. yite_rmaent
involved a direst sem= make essememmr all'
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of an act of parliament Theiteet led hen 111/16-
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Mims the misset hob at Ilmobee4r/lbe winning
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)eiejegualleesahod ISt Se truninerms bed
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Med em isemsmin. Mar.) Nan that

It would hoe unjust to make the counniasioners
elliewarebie hr the defects in the act of parliament, the pro-
visions of whlsh they were bound to carry into effect, be
hid n• Isar but that, on • divides, the home would decide
that the rionioaimioners were not to be censured for the faith-
hl discharge of the duties imposed upon them. (Hear.)
Mr. HEYWOOD suggested • modification in the latter
part of the last resolution, which he thought would remove
the objection of many bon. members. Instead of the words
" that the provisions of this act 6 & 7 Wilk. IV., C. 77, so far
as relates to episcopal inmates, have net been carried oat
according to the intentions of parliament," he would suggest
the substitution of these words—" That the provisions of the
statute 6 & 7 Will. IV., e. 77, require the serious considera-
tion and revision of parliament."
Mr. HORSHAM, in reply, complained that the govern-
ment had pet en erroneous construction on his motion.
He did not impute to the ecclesiastical commissioners
that they had done anything that the act of par-
liament did not warrant; what to alleged was, that
they had not carried out the intention of the act as regarded
those sees which had fallen meant since 1848.

Mr. BROTHERTON, while agreeing that some change
we+ necessary, could not support a resolution which implied
a censure on the commissioners, without being better ac.-
%wanted with the facts and figure. brought forward on both
sides during the debate. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. GLADSTONE (whores. amid loud cries far a division)
positively objected to the modification proposed by the hon.
member for North Lancashire---becausc it would pledge the
house to an opinion respecting the revision of the emlesias-
tired commission before it had the slightest idea by whom
that revision would be carried out. (Renewed onus of
" Divide.")
The gallery was then cleared for a division.
On oar re-admission, we learnt that upon the two first re-
solutions the previous question had been meted, and agreed
to without a division.

On the third resolution, Dr. BOWRING moved an
amendment substitutiag for the words " have not been car-
ried out according to the intentions of parliament," the
words " ought to be referred to the further consideration of
parliament.' This was adopted, and stood part of the qua-
don, on which the division took place. The numbers were—
For the motion
Against it
EPIPHANY QUARTER SESSIONS.
. . .

Mr. PACK it moved for leave to bring in ■ bill for defer-
ring the Epiphany quarter sessions, so ea net to interfere
with the Christmas holidays.
After a remark from Biro. have was given to bring
in the bill. The bill was afterwards brought in, and read a
first time.

PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND).
The report on this bill was brought up. Some additional
clauses and provisoes were agreed to.—The bill was ordered
to be read a third time to-morrow (this day).
The house adjourned at 11 o'clock.

catholic, yet in proscribing monastic institutions, we
do not see that France or Austria can have
a right to prevent them. That lay-brother,
Mr. joRN 0 CONNELL, may imagine that ca-
tholicism and monkery are synonymous; but no
one out of Ireland entertains any such pre-
posterous ideas. Monkery is on the wane in catholic
Lombardy, throughout all South Germany, and in
every catholic state. Why should not the Swiss
catholica be allowed to follow similar tendencies ?
When the refugee officers and statesmen of the Son-
derbund reached Milan they were recognised at the
gates, and followed by a mob of the Milanese to their
hotel, hooting and pelting them. There can be no
people more attached to the creed and the ceremonies
of catholicism than the lower order of the Milanese.
Yet they hooted the political Jesuits of Lucerne, who
are the adored of Mr. JOHN O'CoNNELL. Why
should not Italian opinions of catholicism be as much
respected as the very absurd ideas of catholicism en-
tertained in the ultimo thule of Ireland, where
bigotry is kept up, and honoured, and aired, as a
capital electioneering qualification ?

Tim infirmity of purpose which often characterises
national councils might drive one to wish for a batch
of Lady Macbeth; in office. The great function of
each successive British parliament appears to be, with
or without cause to undo sismething that its predeces-
sors have done. With regard to colonial affairs, the
suddenness and frequency of these changes can only
be equalled by the weakness of the reasons generally
assigned for them. Bearing in mind these facts, our
readers would not be surprised to learn from our yes-
terday's publication that the new House of Commons
is busy rescinding in part the act
:peered by the old
one in 1846, for the government of New Zealand.
The act of 1846 conferred upon the colonists of
New Zealand elective municipal councils and elective
provincial legislatures. The bill of 1847-8, if passed
into a law, will withhold the latter boon for five years.,
When we look back upon the history of our colonial
empire, we find that all those colonies, without excep- '
tion, which have had from the beginning elective
legislatures, have become energetic, self-supporting
provinces of the empire, or powerful independent states;
and that those which have been denied this essentially
British institution have, so long as it was withheld,'
remained ricketty and valetudinary communities.
The reasons which have induced a ministry, whose
leading members pride themselves upon being the
hereditary representatives of the section of our aris-
tocracy favourable to liberal institutions, to recom-
mend this retrograde step to the legislature, ought
to be strong indeed.
The main reason assigned by Mr. LAROCCUERE for
the introduction of the bill to disfranchise the free
colonists of New Zealand is a despatch from Governor
GREY, in which that officer expresses great objections I
to bringing the constitution into effect in New Zea-
land at present. The despatch referred to tells
mi-
nisters nothing that they did not know when the act
of 1846 was pa.md. It tells them that the aborigines
are possed of much property ; that they understand
the value of property, and are anxious to acquire and
retain it; that they are intelligent enough to
know that duties levied on imported goods
are so much subtracted from their property;
that the power of imposing customs duties vested
in the provincial legislature will enable it to tax
the natives; and that the natives will be dissatis-
fied if this is done. All these statements are true,
bat assuredly they are not new. Earl GREY, who has
dwelt with such an attentive and intelligent observa-
tion upon the progress of events is New Zealand from
before the sailing of the Tory, and who, as chairman
of the last committee of the House of Commona on
New Zealand affairs, passed in review every addi-
tional source of information respecting the colony,
digested the evidence, and formed his own conclusions
from them, knew all these things when, under
his auspices the bill of 1846 was introduced. The
introduction of that measure is a proof that he
thought the boon of free institutions to the colony
promised advantages which more than compensated
these drawbacks. Is it like the approved firmness
of Earl GREY to back out of his own measure simply
because a meritorious officer, in terse phraseology
tells him what be knew before ?
Bat Governor Gen.'s despatch does not recom-
mend such a sweeping measure as the suspension of
the new constitution for five years. Governor GREY
said in his despatch that he feared theme would be
the greatest difficulty in promulgating the charter in
some parte of New Zealand, and that it was
only in one portion of the islands he
would recommend its promulgation for the
present. Our readers will remember that by the act
of 1846, and the letters patent issued under it, New
Zealand was portioned out into two provinces, with
power to the governor farther to subdivide each into
districts. The districts where there was any cool-
derable number of English inhabitants were to be
erected into municipal districts, with elective town
councils. These districts were also to elect represen-
tatives to the provincial legislature. In the exten-1
sive tracts of country as yet only inhabited by a thin
population of aborigines, the natives were to hi
allowed the enjoyment of their own laws and memos,
free from legislative interference on the part of the
settlers. «e can quite well understand that in the
disturbed temper of the native districts, consequent
upon the insurrections under HEM in the north and
RANGIHAEATA in the south, it might be inadvisable to
publish
there any parts of the charter not immediately
bearing upon their inhabitants. But this ie no reason
for withholding from the settlers in the municipal dis-
tricts that entire control, on the part of the public,
over local legislation and taxation which is the end
and aim of an elective legislature. And Governor
GREY did not recommend that it should be withheld
from them.
It is not Governor GREY, but the ministers, who
conferred upon New Zealand an elective legislature,
who now advise parliament to rescind the grant. We
say rescind the great, for though five years is the term
now assigned for its being withheld, is there one man
conversant with colonial affairs—acquainted with the
views of government officers and governors—who is not
convinced that at the end of these five years some pre-
text will be found for a further postponement? The
denial of free institutions to New Zealand—the dash-
ing of the cup of constitutional government from their
lips, already touching it—is for an indefinite period.
It cannot produce even the good effects attributed to
it. If there is no elective legislature to impose cue-
tome duties and other taxes, the governor and his
nominee council must impose them. Will the natives
bear the one kind of taxation one jot more patiently
than the other ? Will taxation be more equitably and
judiciously apportioned, laws more judiciously enacted,
by an irresponsible governor and a council of parasites
nominated by him, than by a constitutionally li-
mited governor co-operating with the elite of the
settlers ? The sole effect of the bill for rescinding the
constitutional charter of New Zealand is to re-eeta-
bliah the irresponsible governor and council of 1840,
and deprive the colonists of any means of checking
their proceedings. The bill plunges the colony back
into that anarchy from which it had been promised
the means of emerging. It is a bill to disfranchise
the white settlers, and it is a bill which affords no
greater security to the aborigines. Its only possible
tendency is to facilitate misgovernment and
oppres-
sior, and thereby engender in all claws a dislike of
British oonnexion and sovereignty. It is of
no avail to tell us of Governor GREY'S excel-
lent qualities. Can parliament ensure his remaining
in New Zealand, three, two, or even one year ? Can
they give any security that his successor will partici-
pate in hie qualities? Can they even guarantee that
his nature will remain unchanged under the tempta-
tions of irresponsible power P
There is one feature of the debate which arose on
the proposal to introduce the bill for disfranchising
the New Zealand colonists, which invites notice, and
may, ere long, receive it at our hands. We allude to
the resuscitation of the calumnies against the settlers,
and the Ronmeauish panegyrics on the aborigines,
so long and freely vested by the land-sharking por-
tion of the New Zealand missionaries. But a graver
subject calls for immediate attention.
The New Zealand Bill of this session not
only contemplates enactments positively mischievous :
it omits an urgently required and essential reform.
Morten and acts of parliament are but so much
Hank paper, unless there be in the communities to
Mbleit they relate real pre-existent powers to give
AM amt. The Reform Act was nothing more
lien a formal recognition by the ostensible govern-
mint of Great Britain that political power had passed
into the hands of the constituency recognised by t
measure. Important though the legislative charter
of New Zealand unquestionably, is, • measure to
liberate the colony from the factions contests of those
aqui-potent authorities established among them by

the British government, would be far more useful.
There are in the 00-e institutions of New
Zealand three rival powers, whose inevitable oollisioes
will frustrate every attempt at regular legal govern-
ment. In the first place, there is the governor, pos-
sessing great political power among all claws of
the inhabitants, from the patronage he has to
bestow. In the second place, there is the bishop,
affecting to live amen and be the political
oluitapion of the natives, over whom he exercises a
double induence—as their spiritual instructor, and as
deriving a peculiar juriediceon from the British crown
independent of the local civil authorities. In the third
place there is the resident oommissioner of the great
colonising New Zealand Company, with an amount of
pationage to dispose of which must for many years be
equal, if not superior, to that reposed in the bands
of the governor. Facts were stated in the course of
the debate on Monday evening which show that the
... Bishop of New Land is enacting the part of a
modern THOMAS A Braterr, and bearding the civil
power in the arrogance of his ecclesiastical assump-
tions. And various arrivals from the colony have
borne witness to an antagonism less noisy
and obtrusive, but not less irreconcileable, be-
tween the colonising functionary and the officer
administering the civil government. In order
to impart reality to any charter of constitutional go-
vernment, a centralisation of authority is required.
The bishop may be divested of his political power by
placing him and his clergy on the same footing as the
clergy of all other sects. However difficult of intro-
duction in an old oonntry like Great Britain, the vo-
luntary system of clerical support is in the present
state of European religious opinion the only one that
can safely be adopted in a new colony. The functions
of directing the progress of settlement, and adminis-
tering the civil authority, cannot safely be separated.
If the home government is still determined to entrust
the colonisation of New Zealand to a chartered com-
pany, to that company ought also to be delegated the
power to appoint the governor. if on the other,
hand, the home government deems it injudicious to
delegate to others the exercise of this function of the
sovereign, it ought also to take the charge of colonis-
ing the country into its own hands. Independent
colonising and administrative authorities in the same
province must of necessity be constantly coming into
hostile collision. The multiplication of political
powers in the colony, mutually independent, can only
provoke to factious contests, by which its peace must
be disturbed, and the interests of the settlers mate-
rially compromised.

The Paris papers of Monday are chiefly occupied
with the altered tone of the ministerial journal respect-
ing the Swiss question, which we noticed yesterday-
'flie sore discomfiture which M. Gnizot has en-
countered in Switzerland is aggravated by the still
more serious results arising from the same minister's
policy in Greece. M. Guizot's abetting of M. Coletti
has produced a serious and open quarrel between
Greece and Turkey, of which Russia seems deter-
mined to reap the fall advantage, in the way so ably
exposed in our Constantinople correspondent's letter.

We have received the journals and despatches from
Constantinople to the 27th tilt. The cholera was fast
disappearing;and at its worst it was so trifling in its
effects as to be altogether disregarded. The journals
are chiefly occupied with the note of the Greek go-
vernment to the representatives of the five powers,
and the answer of the Porte, which are too long
and not sufficiently important to claim a place here
in their full details.

The Madrid mile of the 6th and ith have arrived,
but they communicate nothing of importance.

Letters from Palermo of the let, received by the
Sicilian and Neapolitan steam-boat Veravio, which
arrived at Marseilles on the 9th, afford information
respecting the state of Sicily more definite than that
which we gave on Monday on the authority of a cor-
respondent of the Semaphore, and which received al
contradiction rather too and unqualified, as it now
appears, by the Journal des Debate of Sunday. The
Vesuvio sailed on the morning of Wednesday the lst
inst. Then, and for several days previously, the
greatest agitation prevailed throughout Sicily. The
organisation of a civic guard was called for at Mes-
sina, Catania, Syracuse, and other towns. The
government, fearing the consequences of leading
the troops against the people, had withdrawn them
within their barracks, where they were retained.
According to some accounts the government was un-
willing to incur the odium of a popular massacre,
and, according to others, it feared that the troops
would refuse to act, or perhaps join the people.
On the 27th ult. a sceneof extraordinary enthusiasm
was exhibited in Palermo. In the Theatre Cerolino
the audience rose and uttered various patriotic excla-
mations. The popular demonstrations of the 27th
were repeated on the 28th, 29th, and 30th. The
theatre rang with shouts in favour of Pine IX. and
the Italian Union. The population of Palermo, in-
cluding the most respectable claws, demanded the
immediate formation of the national guard, as the
surest means of maintaining order. Several of
the moat influential inhabitants of the town,
including the professors of the university, had writ-
ten to Naples on this subject; but the answers re-
ceived were unfavourable, and a revolution, according
to some, had become inevitable. Besides the letters
received directly from Sicily other adnoes have been
received from various parts of Italy, which all tend
to corroborate the reports already given. Letters
from Leghorn of the 4th say that a steam-frigate had
arrived from the British squadron lying off Sicily,
which brought despatches to Admiral Parker, inform-
ing him that Sicily was in full revolt, and that the
I insurgents had declared themselves independent of
the Neapolitan government, and had placed them-
selves under the protection of England.
The correspondent of the journal dos Debats,
writing from Naples, on the 4th, throws discredit on
'the reports of the proclamation of the constitution of
1812, the declaration of the independence of Sicily,
and the appeal to the protection of the English. It
is, however, confidently affirmed in Pans, that the
government has received despatches announcing that
several of the towns of Sicily had spontaneously ce-
ganised the national guard.

The advices from Berne, which come down to the
9th, add nothing of importance to the intelligence we
have already given. Sir Stratford Canning had had
a long conference with M. Ocbaenbein, but had not
delivered any note from the British government
offering to join in a mediation ; nor was it expected
that any such note would be presented. The closstion
of Neufchatel was adjourned until the deputies from
the cantons of the ex-league should have arrived.
Letters from Milan of the 4th say, that a great num-
ber of the chiefs of the Sonderbund had arrived in that
city, who had been well received by the Germans,
but =favourably by the Italians. Theme refugees
said that the great midortune of the Legg= was that
two-thirds of- its partisans were cowards and the
remainder traitors. The Bale Gazette of the 11th,
says that Sir Stratford Canning informed 14. Others-
bein that, in consequence of the change which had
taken place in the affairs of Switzerland, he would
not deliver the note of mediation prepared by the
Britiah cabinet,

CONEITANTINOPLR, Nov. 27.
The journal de Coossfotatisoopio, the enei-offleial
organ of the Porte, has published the memseeeditm
which the Greek government lately addemeed to the
representatives of the five great es the sob-
ject of the difference existing betweem tie eahiset of
Xing Otho and that of the Sultan, tegelhw with the
reply of the Turkish • ' . The ant ci these do-
cuments is merely a recapitulation at hats from the
refusal of M. Mumma to great a peeped to the ex-
bandit, Tamil, Grethen, up to the suspension of
relations between the two countries, all of course dis-
torted for the mew of junifying the conduct of the
Greek rever The reply of the Porte, as I in-
ketesd pa ha ar Wee of the 19th Met., is a plain
sad simple oldsolot, which completely exposes the
Whelks metaimid the Greek memorandum. Mae
Tereo-Oreek la settlemest as ever. On the 2.5 th inst. a
cabinet council was hid at the Porte, and it was de-
cided to put into immodhde operation further coercive
niseseres spinet Oreeekespecially that which forbade
the odraoce of the the* flag into the porta
of the Ottoman empire under any eiretossimess.
On the thypredeas to this cabinet mums% NA*
Titan the Ihmelea eavoy, bad an interview with he
Mhishr of Aweigh ANths, fat the pe of OM-
limiest* the eesteate of a dmpefaitwidth he imd
'waived from the llowiate Ifieholeoi sad width was
a reply to the note a ion thoe Wage aimed to the
our by the Omsk govemalat. The Emperor ap-
proves, In mann:deur, of the mint of the

Porte, and blames that of the ministers of King Otho.
M. de Tltoff, in compliance with instructions which he
had received from St. Petersburg, urged the Turkish
government to proceed to extremities, if the satisfac-
tion required were not instantly granted; and it is
greatly feared that the arguments of the Russian
envoy have produced the effect he desired. The
Greek government, composed as it is at present, of
Russian tools, will never yield. The Emperor, whilst
he urges the Ports to adopt coercive measures, co-
vertly advises the Greeks to resist. In this way mat-
ters will be brought to a crisis. Greece is already •
prey to anarehy ; without money and without re-
sources. The only quiet and respectable portion
of the inhabitants of the country, namely,
the merchants and ship-owners, are now threatened
with ruin by the stoppage of their trade
with the east. The cause of all these disasters

can easily be traced to the hot-headedness and ob-
stinacy of King Otho. This idea properly dismal-
noted, and aided in its effect by hostile pr to
the part of Turkey, will eventually drive Otho from
Greece. It will then be the part of the Emperor
Nicholas to save from destruction a people, who look
up to him as their spiritual head. Like the people of
Wallachia and Moldavia, it is to him alone they will
appeal, for in him alone will they have any trust or
confidence. Sanctioned as the acts of the Czar will
be by the united will of a nation, England or Francs
will find it difficult to prevent what they should have
long since foreseen. The policy of Russia is always
dark and tortuous, bat the plan which I have just
detailed was confided to too many to remain long.
anassaled. Russian agents may have frustrated the
deign of the Porte, of which I spoke in a former
letter, of serving Servia, batthe friends of Turkey caa
now in part retaliate, by at least preparing the public'
for the fate which is awaiting Greece.
I have just received the information from a sure
source, that another of the coercive measures which
the Porte intends to put in force, is to cause the ex-
pulsion of Greek subjects from Turkey. This idea, it
appears, has emanated from St. Petersburg. If acted
upon, it will certainly aid immensely the plans of
the Emperor Nicholas by the increase it will give
to the materials for anarchy already existing in
Ossosa. The want of energy which the Porte at
first sensed to display in this question, can no longer
be made a subject of reproach, for it is now rushing
into the other, and, at present, fatal, extreme. It IS
not, however, the Porte that is so much to blame as
her allies. The system of policy which exists in
western Europe can neither be well understood or
acted upon by semi-barbarous people like the Turks
and Greeks. Had the Ottoman government been
left to themselves, they might have put a period to
this difference long before now, by employing the
only means understood in Greece, where probity and
honour are unknown. The sum of the advice given
by one or two of the representatives of the five
greater powers to the Porte, at the beginning of this
question, may be safely said to be contained in the
following lines of Boileau :
" lin-u-
-yrs 119tentot ; et, ism sasrige,

wmalibaiorta imallimilaasavalip;
me
et Gene et le twines;
Ayer.Ayer.ipellyedele, 1100.111. i
The Porte MN iaeed to follow the inetnetions of
her punctilio= adelsors, and she will shortly begin to
reap the fruits.
Fires have, for some time past, been of daily occur-
rence at Constantinople and Pere. I have informed
you of the horning down of the barracks of Scutari,
which were built entirely of stone, and capable of
accommodating 20,000 men. The lose to the govern-
ment was very great ; 20,000 muskets were destroyed
by the flames, together with an immense quantity of
stores and provisions. Suspicions were entertained
that the fire was not accidental, and, by the orders of
the commander-in-chief, the general who commanded
in the barracks, together with the colonel of the
royal guard, who also resided there, were planed
under arrest. Their trial was carried on with closed
doors, and nothing but vague rumours have trans-
pired. A few days since another barracks of
great extent, situated not fax from the Seven
Towers, were burned down. This building was
also solidly constructed of stone, and the cause of
the fire is as mysterious as that of the barracks at
Scutari. Mr. Smith, the architect of the new Eng-
lish embassy, was requested by the Turkish govern-
ment to give a plan for the reconstruction of the bar-
racks at Scutari. Mr. Smith, to the great satisfaction
of the Porte, has shown them a means of rebuilding
these barrack/ at a much less sum than was origi-
nally expended, and perfectly safe from fire, both in-
ternally and externally.
The. cholera is still at Constantinople, but the num-
ber of deaths is little more than two or three a day.
The last accounts from Erzeroum state the number of
deaths amongst the small population of that town to
be twelve per day. The epidemic here seems to be
entirely .=,arded. The weather for the past
fortnight has been remarkably fine.

MALTA, Nov. 30.
The Sidon left for Alexandria on the 28th nit.,
with Lord Dalhousie and mite en route to India. It had
been mentioned that the governor, Mr. M. O'Ferrall, would
leave England about the 20th in the Oberon steamer, direct
for Malta. He has not, however, arrived yet. Everything
is being done to give him a handaome reception.

ATHENS, Nov. 30.
The Austrian Lloyd's denier of the 27th brought
, the answer of the Ewen: ell 1a to the last letter of King
1 Otho, relative to thelllsimus question. The senate has only
held two sittings elms lard Oct., and of those I gave you an
~,c,„;!unt. The Chamber of Deputies might as well claw also,
for it does nothing—the say meet to abuse each
other, and cavil about Wawa. The hair t for 1847 is not
passed, nor has it ems bum alsommet; whilst, by this time,
that for 1848 ought to have been gresseisd to the chambers.
The remonstrances of the prom, or the orders of
the French ministers, ham teesed • little more
activity on the part of the government in linen-
' handing the brigands. The Imam robber Bibles:,
who has plundered and robbed in the vicinity of Athens for
same three years with haa bean entrapped hy an-
other robber chief, named sip 4 who undertook, for a
▪ at ,to deliver him up. earl or alive. To effect
his he took with him is eishderatco, and tracked
Having found him, be pregessit to him (represent.
Mg himself u a brigand) to join Sete amen, and plunder in
y. This Bibini declined, until ha had consulted kis
ou, who were absent. Bulgeri then watched an
opportunity, drew out • pistol, and shot Bibimi dead. The
mom was brought to Athens and exposed to public view, as
•• •••Whll cad a warning to evil doers. In consequence of
the reported minonce of the cholera in Constantinople, the
IKW hr published an ordinance of sanitary escalations. A
lawt has been prepared at Bgina. Steamers from Con.
ohmialsople will land letters, be., at Salamis, in charge of •
gmoodian, who will accompany the post-offloe agent. The
proongers will be landed at Spina, with a quarantine of
eleven days