The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-21 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 21, 1249.

the peculiar eircunoteneee of the ease, he did hesitate. sod
elan shriek him credal with the requests sow mods to
him ? There was also this different,' between the preouna
and the termer modems—that they were abstract peered
does not leading to any direct result, whereas his resod
motion was founded upon a petitin most numercusly caned
by the Yu, Plums who Named from the present elate of
skimp late parish of Bishop Wearmatallt, and who bad a
right to desonall redrew. Ns knew of no rums wh the
boner shealdkulleisfa the eu*at, lie
_Wee besalletter and kw men sr kinder/
lira nela bad veinstarily come Reward aflame.
peignseL Nk(Ills. Reesman) had certainly expected some
sash slep town have been taken by the right rev. pedalo,
white west have obviated the nee ssity for his present
melba. Not that nether* bees done, he desired to have
a legal senellea given to the arrangens.at which the Bishop
of Barham Iththelf had proposed, and cot sequently time&
astrassy. Wl* respect to the oinervations that bad hen
Mole estiiitermination to eat use
as the
ies, be could only say be had as reek
whit Oft But he must say, and he weld
not 111 ble matintents on the subject, that for math
d foe&Pillow which was observable in the eteledenasal
ortelYmmis of the ootudr7, the moissiastioal Mess them-
selves Where wholly reeponnble. lie had been subjected
iin mei ellinsay on this score, but he had never
Inn dig what he conceived to be his duty, nor should he
do so em the present emotion, for all which reasons he
begged to Mediae accepting the advice that hid been given
him, and to persist in making the motion which he had
brought forward.
Lord J. RUSSELL sell that as the bon, member had
accused him of having beet guilty of a dereliction of good
faith, and of having broken his pledges, he did not think the
house would refuse Wan the indulgence of being allowed to
say a few words in explanation and in answer to these seen-
mason,. The hon. member had referred to his motion on
the fueion of the thelesisatical and commen funds of
the church. He (Lord J. Russell) had then promised
that he would speak to the Archbishop of Canterbury
on the subject, but he stated also, that, as his grace had only
been recently appointed, some time might elapse before an
opportunity for so doing presented itself. He did speak to
the archbishop within a week from tho time when the pro-
mise was made. His grant went through the grounds of the
motion, and, finding no valid objection to the arrangement
proposed, it was then agreed between the archbishep
and himself that a measure might be introdood
for the impose of carrying out that arrangement.
The honourable member further brought forward
a motion Proposing to inquire into the state of collegiate
and cathelral churches, 'swell as to suggest that some differ
eat arrangements of their revenue. should b 3 made. That
was • fa more difficult subject to deal with, and he (Lord J.
Russell) had considered that if, on inquiry, further reforms
in the cathedral establishments should be found necessary, it
was expedient to ascertain what their revenues were
pprseevious to introducing any measure for the ra-
tion of those funds. He had, therefore,
adelsoi the crown to appoint • commission, at
the heed of which was placed the Reel of Harrowby,sod
moral of the members of which had seats in that house—
In order to enter Into a full inquiry of the whole subject.
AS to the gut mien which had been put to him, why he had
eat introduced any measure into the house upon either el
these two subjects, he must observe that he had already
stated to the hon. gentleman that he would do eo with
respect to the reconstruction of the ecclesiastical
seemaission, and the fusion of the episcopal and
seams. fund into one ; and when the bon. gentleman
neared him of violating a pledge, he would put it to the
bens whether, Nappanee he had Introduced any such meo-
ws
there could have been any progress nude in them.
There wertionly twoldays a week, eight days in a month,
specially devoted to the immures of the government and the
business of the country—and the time of the boast had been
fully occupied up to the present hour in disposing of the
more pressing of the public measures. He had
introduced since parliament met, the Irish Habeas
I Corpus Suspension Act, which would have expired on
the let of March. It was net possible to have post-
posed that measure. The next question introduced was
that of she navigation laws, respecting which several of the
British colonies, and particularly Oland& felt very deeply
interested. The government had also been urgently re
spired to take reps to stop the ravages of the famine
Is the west of Ireland. These measures were indis-
pensable. Then he had thought it necessary to take
some votes on the army and navy estimates, as the mutiny
bill expired in April or May. Now with all this
bueinese in hand, bourses which selmitted of no defy, he
would put it to the house U there had, yet, been any op-
portunity for introducing the measures rest reed to by the
hon. member. Ho had broken no pledges; he had taken
the most important and pressing busintll4 in the order which
be deemed necessary, end these were his reasons for not hav-
ing, as yet, brought forward any measures of the kind re.
fund to by the bon. member for Cockermoith.

Mr. Ald. THOMPSON urged the hon. member to with
draw hie motion. (Divide, divide.)

Sir F. BARING said be had waited until the last moment
in the hope that the hon. member would be induced to with-
draw his motion • but as he appeared determined to proceed
to a division, and' as the home would thereby be compelled
to offer an opinion one way or the other with respect to the
motion, an undesirable thing under present circumstances,
he thought that the most satisfactory ocurse under all the
circumstances would be to move the preview question, which
he accordingly did,
The house then divided—

For the previous question
Against it
The previous question was accordingly carried, by which
a decision on the .in question was avoided.