The Express.
London, England, 1847-03-05 00:00:00

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EttIVATE BUSINESS.
FIRST READlNO.—Protettast Dissenters and General L. Life
sad Mrs Insurance Comm/ Bm.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.

PP:ITTIONA.—By tha .Fitt of F.outnotr, tram • place in the toasty
of Aberdeen, grains' the bgbt dam. Lord Anneverox from home,
agaling the low of rettkment. Lord 11,:ormuoLa, horn guarthan• of
Ocitembie Colon, foe further memo.. of rebel for Ireland.
COMMITTEE - Lehourbto Poor (Ireland) Bill.
PAPERS PRIPZENTED.--Papers and Correepondemxt relative to 11
the State aunt., ourkhoome an Ireland.

RETURNS dithiltr:D.-0;111• :notion of lord Baocoaam
Vat el the erideace, and era:rant of committal la the cane of John
On the motion of the Earl of ELIJMONOCO., accounts of
the trade sad navigation of the empire for 1843 nod 1846, in ea
amended ken_

COMMITTAL OF A CHILD FOR FELONY.

Lord BROUGHAM moved for copies of the examination
and commitment in the case of John °Ahem, a child aged 5
years whe, incredible to relate, had been, on the 9th of last
month, committed to Totkill-fields prison fur felony, by a
magistrate in the metropolis. Ile bad no hesitation what-
ever
in avowing that he moved for these papers, to which he
conceived there could be no objection, with a view to further
proceedings against the committing magistrate, and in order
to remove him from the bench on which he sat.
Lord CAMPBELL said the only difficulty that there could
be with respect to the production oft hese papers arose from the
conaideration whether proceedings against this magistrate
ought to originate in that house or in a court of law ; because
an act so monstrous as the committal of a child of such teader
age was clearly a subject for judicial interference.
Lord BROUGHAM said he had already called the atten- '
tioo of the Lord Chancellor and of the Home Secretary to
the subject. He took the opportunity of saying that he did
not know the name of the committing 'imagist/ate.
Return ordered.
TRADE AND NAVIGATION.
The Earl of ELLEN BOROUGH.--The accounts of the
trade and navigation of the empire had been within the last
few days laid upon their lordahips' table. He had looked at
them, as probably many of their lordships had, with any
feelings but those of satisfaction ,• and, as he thought it was '
definable, when such unfavourable accounts were laid before
them, they should have the fullest information, he intended
to propose that the returns should be made out afresh, in
such a way as t• distinguish between the imports and export.
Lof the first six months and the last six months of the years
1845 andl 846. This return would enable their lordships to
judge whether the trade of the country was progressive, eta.
tionary, or retrogressive. It would be satisfactory if such a
return showed that the falling off had been in the first, and
tat ia As kat, half afloat ; for, as a whole, the return
was ear/. . He would take articles of

imperiesiced a deereisZ la lee imperil of efer milltegetTir
the extent of L ' 429.0001. • in woollen Needs 1„30001. ;
in linens, 197,0001. • in woollen yarns, 159,0001. • and linen
yarns, 165,0001. ; making a total decree's of *spits, amount•
log to 3,329,0001. On the other hand, there had been an in-
crease in the exports of cotton yarn (an article not so highly
manufactured) to the extent of 910,0001., and in silks to the
extent of 71,0001. Deducting them two Acing, the falling off
appeared to he to the large extent of 2,348,0001. But, un-
fortunately, to surradd to this, these returns gave us no
vary satisfactory view of what was likely to be the state of
our trade during the present year, for it appeared that in
almost every instance there had been a decrease in the im-
pel of the raw material. For example, the import of cot-
tea meal had decreased 2,269,000 cwt. ; sheep' wool,
11,810,000 lb. ; flax, 271,000 cwt. ' and in dye and dye stuffs,
which were so important in manufactures, there had also been
'decrease which gave cause for some alarm. The imports of
aledinsal, logwoed, and madder had slightly increased, bat in
Mthere was a great falling off; bark had decreased
asirt.; barilla, 11,901 tons; hemp, 51,000 cwt.; hides,
In the extent of 201,000 ; and there had also been a large
off in nearly every description of oils. The prospect,
then, both as related to the past and the future, was a
gloomy one, and it wee not rendered more cheering by the
report an to the state of navigation. Tonnage entered out-
wards had slightly diminished, whilst tonnage entered in-
wards had slightly increased : setting the one, t 1 erefore,
against the other, it would seem that our :.'tipping
interest, were nearly stationary. There had been el t, which
was another unsatisfactory fact, a large increase in the
export of machinery, and of those metals which entered into
the composition of machines. This was not the proper time for
inferences, or he might draw several unpleasant deductions
from this state of facts. He did not think, however, that he
should be considered unreasonable if, in consequence of
them, he asked for • return calculated to show whether we
were in a progressive state or not ; and such return, as he
had before explained it, he would now move for accordingly.
The Earl of CLARENDON said, that so far from there
being any objection or difficulty in producing the return as
the noble lord &aired it, he considered it would be an advan-
tage that they should be enabled to institute a more minute
comparison into the circumstances of the trade and commerce
of the country during different periods of different years,
and thought that anything which tended to throw greater
light on a subj.-et of such importance could not but be bene-
ficial to the public in general, as well as to those immedi-
ately concerned. As the noble earl had remarked, the
present was net the time for entering into a discussion of the
smiled ; but be hoped, when that fit and proper time did
arnwe' that their lordships would agree with him, that,
upon the whole, the commerce of the country was
satisfactorily progressive. Fluctuations in different
years would always occur in trade, and espe-
cially during such years so that last past, when
disturbing causes arose which no one could foresee, and
against which no human foresight could guard. For exam-
ple, the cotton crop in America last year had been, to a greet
extent a failure, and • rise in price in the raw material
ensued, which being materially enhaaced by the high rate of
freights, had no doubt very unfavourably influenced the
• otton manufactures of this kingdom. This, too, had oesurred
at a time when the &cress which prevailed throughout
Europe bad, no doubt, deprived us of many of our foreign
customers. The noble earl had alluded to some other mai-
eke respecting the decrease of which • satisfactory explana-
tion could also be given. The import of wool, for instance,
bad decreased, because large quantities had previously been
bonded in England to wait the reduction of duty. Barilla
had decreased, because it was now nearly superseded by sods ;
and, without following the noble earl through all the arti-
des he had enumerated, it might safely be said that
reasons, more or less satisfactory, could be assigned for the
fluctuations referred to in nearly all of them. Taking all
the circumstances together, and looking at the fact that the
revenue had sustained no loss, it was his opinion that they
might look with satiefaction at their present position, ant)
with much confidence to their future prospects,
Lord ASHBURTON observed, that us doubt it would be
difficult, in consequence of the disturbing causes which bed )
occurred last year, to draw any complete or very satiability
inferences from the return to which his noble grad had IL
rented their lordships' attention. At the eineemi=otteen
the noble earl opposite spoke of Mine articles of
having fallen off from causes readily to be explained, he
(Lord Ashburton) could not entirely agree with him. In
thomiso of wool, for instance, though the decrease of the in,
=esd.fisesei might have arisen from the quantity previously
that would in no way account for the decree's in the
Meal at saiumbstared woollen cloths, which hadbeen so
to bo remarkable. Now, he had bees told
rile
des autumn of
perlastson year, by a very expo-
ollimoo
dull and prandial , that, since the removal
it the ties, woolen sulksissundeetured in Belgium had
iiiniedy been smnini hes the market in England for
bee iignitimOion I Ude noble Bel at tie hied of the
Ind et Trade shield to be informed as to this
wraps he would the home wbotbar It was
deem or not ? oar Irmo mob hod hems so
MAW with by foreign celiapithiss,prihner Ailkentou )
Mai set help thinking that we were en net our manu.
ado= to • wore test of that ple of true trade
will, is his opinion, so unfortnnately for the connts7, we
the
bad an inghtsurnmharly adopted. (" Hear, hear,' from
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CLARI&DON mid he could not *entire
thoughts lord the information he sought for. He had hoer'
last stritmer that a certain amount of Belgian cloth had
been imported, but he had received no information upon the
subject since, nor had any complaint whatever reached him
from the manufacturers.

Th;reteen was then ordered.
CAPTAIN WYNNE'S REPORT.
Lord BROUGHAM asked whether Captain Wynne hod
sent in any statement to government In reply to the charges
that were made egged hm in the other holm?
The Marquise( LANSDOWNE said be knew that inquiry
had been made a Capt. Wynne respecting these eireurn-
-1 stases, but he mild not at that seem* my what reply had
I been received.

LABOURING POOR (IRELAND) BILL.
The Marcrais of CLANRICARDE wed the ocannrittal
of this bW.
Laid BROUGHAM objected to the seemed clause, sa
giving too extensive powers of indemnity.
1 The Marquis of LANSDOWNE thought the towers
granted , in order to give emariete irrAssensty for
sets done under is
Lebeediere's leeeer.
Lord BROUGHAM t it WWII be boner if power
were given to the Lori. win worn other autho-
rity, to grant indemnity etakwelien.
The Earl at DEVON add b weir* ihetttble and learned
lord had • red setae. is Iseleiwi; lieweelleboa, perhaps, be
I able to take a owe prolog view of lb s seam.
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