The Express.
London, England, 1847-05-19 00:00:00

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na r`iPhierford, 1 ; Donigh adee,
1 ; Frisch, 1; Flanders, 1.
LONDON, May 19.—Wind this day at noon, S.S.W.,
mederate brave, and fine.
Dam., May 18.-8„ light ; r.u., S.R., moderate.—Ar-
rived Enterprise, Trinidad. Sailed : Australia, Batavia I
Indus, Pernambuoo; Orange, Demerara ; Camilla, Jamaica;
John Cobbold, Jaffa ; and the whole of the outward-bound.
Colin, Nay 18.--S.E. by S.—Arrived : Mitre,* Monte
Video.
PLYNOCTN.—Arrived off: Benjamin OMB., St. Hilt's.
Pautorre, May 18.-11.8. E.—Sated Vetoner, Hobart
Town.
71111 WIONT.-4egl Park, Calcutta and Demerara
NNWINAIr, May 111.— .W.—Sailed: Creacent, Grenada;
Tedium, Annual.
CLTDE, May 17.—E.—Arrived: Favourite, Porto Rico;
Disdain, Halifax. Sailed : Maid of the Mill Montreal.
La WASH.—Arrived Ducless of Portlar.d, Porto Rieo.
Co.ix, May Hr.--S.S.W., rest.—Arrived: Margueth
Wilkie, Canton.
DIOGNIDA, May 17.—W.N.W.—Sa6id : Andes, Sydney,
C.B.
LNITII, May 17.—Arvind: Quays, Grenada. Sailed:
Nelms, Pert Philip.'
listeatntan, May 17.—The Feronia, for Landon, was as-
sisted fa here this wersiss, with 5 feet water in her hold.
Ntry 18.—A Hull schooner is reported to be
on shore on the Goofiest Sand.

law es it 'toed, which had °prated eammbet tenenveminstly,
t sight authorise the eaestesmimmin.eisief to 1111.
re:salm ,r 7,14, or 21 year% as well as he an unl!mitad
=name) The piped afrolgaNNOS was • -great
on this mites. am Its tbe dilleaky attending
the ro-rielielmeat of troop sibeemt,mmt *stair on which Se
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tee remeowl sdPiste( dim when teem had expired, awl
the Miami maim. Bat the Adele aid epplait
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he Ulm dud ass were sent est regetedg, Weeder Hut stm
enertneleemoilSiere in the reginines es foreign sertiee.
feast emeht be aMeelded with expanse ; • bat
be hearted, sad k
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Tao biota te the envies. (Hear.) He sinaki
meek regret HIM eseamittee abseil be badoced to epee be
the emandammt skim noble earl
Lord STMIfLIT saidthe noble t=at duke bed urima-
derstood the aliases and intent *tette simendment, es dor the
purport of theta sit stood. 11. isi elated men Immittikai
if Ude bill bed ow be. iallegated tbe greceosasata
had the power elf the mei oel ealiemeei4
ors this iseseimemse weembeleellegs
and he (Ladbob') Little slurs at the eirMatemee-
meat Use noble east awoke, that if this ameadmsmetwee
dolma the weed met be poseedsd with. Tee offset
goner bill was, met MOW %ha 'ewer enonamdrix.4.
grnment of enelgebiegrplistmeent for a shorter
then ten years, but is peekiblemmliebment far a longer psuod.
The difficulty of deal* with this quell= would be muds
diminished, tf the, knew that they were all aiming at the
same object. Thu o' jut was the nine as that of the settle
and galant dote,—to retain the old soldiers is :the
army at tin expiration of their first term of ser-
vice; but he was net quite sure that that eras
the object of the noble earl opposite (Earl Grey).
The question, as regarded the ancenent, was, which of
the two periods, ten or twelve years, was the most likely to
effect that object. Doubtless the old soldiers might be. re-
tained at the mato( ten yeses. Were they more or less likely
to be retained at the end of twelve years! When WY II met
most likely to re-enlist ? The balance of probability was me-
taialy fn favour of the tint term of twelve years, and the
second of nine. For this mane, at the end of twelve 'tease
the soldier fah that he had got through more than one-half
the whole period of twenty-one yeius, arid by nine .years' •
mere/serving would be stile to obtain the higher pennon.
(Gear.) Let not the noble earl opposite (Earl Gary) Mum
bold qut to•the boom that the adoption of she "malodor's* .
would deprive the soldier of the chance of the ieereased pen-
mien. Stash a principle would be telt by the army and the
country to be unjuat. (Hear.) It was true the bill IP it
stood might secure the re-enlistment of the soldiers; but this
object would be more certainly ensured by the adoptioe'ef
the noble marquis's amendment. The committee divided—
Contents (for the clause) 3B
Non-content' (against it)
Lord DE ROB then proposed the following amendment
" That any "other, at city period within one year previous to the
completion of the term or limited *mice for which he shall boveheen
first engaged or in the cascot any regiment under orders fee terries.
other than in U rest Britain or Ireland, within to o yeses pi eviorte le
such completion, and being approvid as a tit person, tie., may newsy
time he re-engaged for the torttur (MR of six yearn and seven !Ate'
and in late manner, within the lite p. rend press.* to the completion
of such second engagement, fora furt'scr term of fire years, smellier
In infantry, cavalry, or ordnance corps; such farther term or twine
to date from the expiration of the first or second period of serNiCt,
the ease may be."
Earl GREY said there was some force io the argument
against restricting too closely the penal of re-enlutintnt,
and he saw no objection to the adoption of this amendment,
if the noble lord would alter the period of one year titi six
months.
After a few words from Lord De Roe, who was inaudible
in the gallery.
Lord STANLEY argued in favour of the amendment as
it stood, and said that its effect would be to remove any Sisk
as to the filling up regimens under orders for foreign service.
After a conversation the clause was agreed to, reserving
the introduction of words adapted to the principle lathe
next stage of the bill.
The Earl of ELLEN BOROUGH then moved the inier-
Con of words at the end of clause 3, the effect of which were
to empower civilians in India or the colonies, duly authorised
by the Secretary at Waes warrant, to re-enlist soldiers into
her Majesty's service.
The amendment env agreed to, and the clause as amended
ordered to stand part of the bill.
On clause 4 Iwing proposed,
'fhe Earl of ELLEN SOROCOLI moved the &riddled of
a proviso to the effect that, at the expiration of the time of
service, any soldier entit:ed to his discharge bring on any
foreign station, who .'mould not be willing to reengage or to
continue in the service, the commanding officer of the regi-
ment shall, as in the ease of soldiers invalided, take tne
usual measures, with all convenient despatch, for the con-
veyance of such soldier to England ; mid on the arrival of
such soldier in India he should be finally discharged ; but
that, on the pasaage home, and until the final discharge,
such soldier should remain subject to the provisions of the
Mutiny Act.
Earl GREY opposed the amendment on the ground that
its erect would be to take off two years from the period of
service abroad.

The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH remarked that without
such a proviso u he proposed great inconvenience would
arise in India. if soldiers wire there discharged the
moment they became freemen, uncontrolled by military
authority and discipline, there would lee nothing to prevent
400 or 600 of them mitt ring the service of the natives, lie
warned the noble earl against such u result, and would tell
him that he was legislating for a country of which he knew
nothing. So law aa the soldier was in India he must be
kept under military discipline or insurrection would firolow.
After a few words in explanation imam Earl 011 EX;

Lord COM BERMEResupported the amendment.
Lord STANLEY ce..eurred in the opinion expressed by
his noble friend, the Earl of Ellenborough, and sppealed to
the noble and gallant duke at the head of the army to give
his opinion upon the matter.
Tne Duke of WELLINGTON replied that it would be
most inconvenient to leave disbanded soldiers in India, except
they were kept under military control ; and he should depre-
cete their bring sent to sea on their passage home without
some discipline and control being kept up amongst them.
Rut ORLY said, after the opinion expreered by the noble
and gallant duke, he should not further oppose tits adoption
of the proviso.
The amendment was agreed to, as were also the remaining
clame of the bill.—The house then resumed and the bill was
ripened with amendments.
POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. •
Zeal GREY moved the third reading or this bill. •
Lied YONTEAGLE complained of the pressure which
elliiimeesure would inflict upon the clergy of Deltoid, in ad-
illbiletie that they were already suffering from the operation
lithe Temporary Relief Act. He believed that the law
meediegmate as a eonfiseation of the entire revenues of the
geeleeMmt church in Ireland, and if there was to be an
Melleeement e/ the Roman Catholic clergy, se he most sincerely
bkmil dues would,—hear)—the effect of this measure
reseedd lbe to do this at the expanse of the established church,
rellelning, at the same time, all that was most objectionable
lathe voluntary principle. This bill would also have an
erect upon the elective franchise, oh• believed, by the par-
Jlmeentary law, those who received eleemosynary relief wen
dlifreselhasseL This was a question of great importance, and
one *Mk might to be settled at once, as they were on the eve
elm Mftt. ion. Another injurious effect of this measure
would be that it would legalise tumultuary assemblages
for the plunder of the public food. He was net sorry that
their lordships revered the decision which they had come
to on the clause which he proposed for making the bill tem-
porary, for though he believed his amendment would Agee
given the bill a bett r chance of working well, and would
have insured it a more cordial aeseptance and cooperation
in Ireland, if it failed, as fail he believed it would, the
blame would be cast upon his clause and net to the nature
.(the bill. The undivided, undisputed, and unenviable re-
spoesibi ity of the measure now rested with the government
alone. (Hear, hear.)
Tne Earl of WICKLOW said that the clergy had suffered
from the operation of the Temporary Relief Act, but he
believed the premot bill provided sufficient safeguards for
their interests.
After a few words from Lord LOCAX,
• The Earl of CLANCARTY thought the bill went to the
subversion of the protestant clergy in Ireland. He maw with
great uWtishment a bill which had just come into their
Wlllehipi hones, called the Poor Removal Bill, which, while
k prided /or the removal of the Irish tram England and
_........ 111 not contain any provision for the nmovel of
dr Mid Scotch from Ireland. He hoped that saes
be made in the MIL
11 s ONT did not think the clergy had so mush
•• ' •. , lissenes it the rate wee oaly 20a. she
• y reared ituthins, he if *erre was 26a.
the bad to lay the SU. he the pound, end ba
MMM. (1.1.1110 He lisped whatever was done, that
voliwinVikain a Pullet constiroacy. That would
bi the tat soaK bill them. (Rear, bear.)
Karl OR rid Ise wale sma mar rte the tellies whisk
had been raised, borer dray would be brat 411ararl*
when the amendments which went to be prepered verb
brought forward. He could aware thenobis -earl (Clad-
arty) that the hill to *hieh he referred was irrodord with
a view to Midi intonate alone. The tassels el the pro-
season clew was to be met by a eitspec in Or Ohm&
Temporalities Act, and not byto a abr. se theresesta
hal*
he was not then prepared offer an minks d its
' . With reg. ard to the frachke, her Vier
Edney
kiss& ,(Brumont), OW to establie a mama
moolimeerlps Ireland would he alto on et Is assity. (Hurl)
Tim IIittokOLEiEMEIFORT neggeenlei NM Op
hefts that the itf Ireland should ea
litt übtrallty for their supgit• •lhat
in Iriah sei any mason to MS the .lea Of
ea a lain The Sear had ease 1b goy to ht}
Ala filsoselowilepses. The hiels hodol__,_mptii,t? 144
fie the hot St yeesehrtgi *seism Avows
ionlorrberel=
711RTtitg)r &poor I aid ' "Itshat they &mid sod
to bear it. On this groom% he gave hie full and car-
pat to the third readies ee is bill.
Rail FITZWILLLtiI said that he ooneenred with the
aline( lords who teydeolLillit Istkh was cabled to make
the bill temporary, besemirkilionlil threw to whole ro-
.ooll6llVlNlliikie Beebe dielobeeedierhish,
as 1111. Ibliosildh Issiol A
.1110 inishoh ma
itio ihe el Ibliathl til:711
end 111.101 prof lee ohm* them
is Ida sessomPulth respect to the
ddhantes. ilhh eltelimlmt had no sense of
tillielAlthe Milt *by led se suesomer. ( Hear.) The
who had Instant down MI them that he r►
eMiribles assistance of &aghast; bus be (Earl Fitrrit-
-1 ordditsatheir lordship. tiesaithhosi meld never be
the abyss into erhislohossos__ phriged wittiest
alas of licaland. It will elliglist this bill was
geenelsZ4purpree of punishing ghwithii Inedlords ),bet
that said for the ssigose eessidog-ts more peke-
able. .leet 'tan, that it two suresslhoeladea lt..Jaly
or Atom neat, and that they again ant in Ilegtembra se
Welber, they should be called epee to wait this aseasers,

Sad be siderite* table necessity of uknowledglng
the errors hits
The Marquis of CLINRIVIStni contradicted the state
meat made by WOO of their lordship., that this wara a
system of entire mkt out it door, fat the oPtio• of acingthe workhouse test lay still with the poor.law guardiaaa
The danger whisk was alluded to did not lie in the state of
things which this MU wee iotroduced to alleviate. It could
sot desensitise; and laugh he believed that it weak' inflict
a hurthen en property kr some years to come, yet he would
like to knew who would propose that the Irish should starve.
Be,or one, as a person connected with Ireland, and
sharing the responsibility of carrying this bill, would give
his full support to it, believing that it would immediately
alleviate the "dean distress, and would be of ultimate ser-
vice to the whole country.
The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL believed that this bill
would be wholly inoperative as to the objects fir which it
was intended. It would be of benefit only to those parts of
the country which were comparatively well off, it would rain
the landlords. tenants, and rate payers, and would then leave
the country in a worse situation than ever. They must either
lad the means of enabling the poor population of Ireland to
emigrate, or they would soon see them dying from starvation
is every part of the country. Passive resistance had been
beard of in Ireland, but he must warn their lordships that
there was a point beyond which endurance could not go.
Lord ABINOER made a few observations which were
quite inaudible in the gallery.
The bill was then read a third time.
Lord MONTEAGLE then moved a clause, the object of
which was to prevent rents and wages being paid out d the
rates.
Earl GREY said that sot only would the Oulu be easily
evaded, but if it were made stringent, it would embarraas
the administration of the law.
The clews was negatived without a division.
Earl GREY then proposed to make an addition to clause
eight, with the view of assimilating the poor law of Ireland
to that of England, whereby a child should be compelled to
support his permits when he was capable of doing so.
Agreed to.
After a suggestion had been made by Earl Gear, which
was not heard in the gallery,
The Earl of ELLEN BOROUGH objected to the clause
which provided that persons bolding land to the extent of
a quarter of an acre should not be entitled to relief. It
sight do very well if Ireland were in a settled and puma-
sent state, bat it was not adapted to the present emergency.
In all probability, for many years, the petty holders of land
would be in a state of distress, and if this clause was agreed
to it would lead, in many eases, to a universal clearing of
estates, inasmuch ss the number of persons holding a
quarter of an acre in Ireland amounted to upwards of
300,000. He thought, therefore, it would lead to great
danger in many parts of the country. He did not believe the
bill itself would stand. They bad already tried two different
sets of machinery, and it required no great foreeight to see
that the present measure was not likely to be more 'table
than its predecessors. Their lordships must remember that
the Public Works Act expired in August, and the Tempo.
nary Relief Act in October; and there would be
nothing but the present bill left. And even if the boards of
guardians could work—which they could not—where was
the money to come from? (Hear, hew.) He had said thus
much, because he was most anxious not to be in any way
responsible for the working of this bill.
Earl GREY trusted that their lordships would rot, in dis•
ceasing a particular clause, go into the general question
again. The noble earl admitted that be should not object
to the clause in a permanent measure, and such was the
abject of the present bill. As to new emergencies, it was
enough to my they might be dealt with as they arose.
It was impossible to draw these clauses so as to supersede
Its necamity of considerable discretion on the part of those
who had to administer the law.
The Earl of WICKLOW suggested the insertion of a
dawn empowering the surrender of the land in the tame
way as if the lease had expired. He thought it objectionable to
preclude the holders of such small portions of land from
After a few words from the Earl of Clancarty, Lord
Medeulale, and Earl Fitxwilliam, the amendment was
agreed to.
Lcrd REDESDALE then moved the addition of a clause,
empowering the owner of any property rated at not lees than
MK a year, to enter into ea agreement with the occupier, by
which the latter should brew alone liable for the rates;
sod that after each moment was entered into, the tenant
timid not be muse W to deduct from his rent any portion
of the rates. At rand the law gave no power to make
web asposmaste, benswver desirous the parties might be of
debit se. Thum and' be se objection to such a provision,
SI it would motedally tend to promote a good understanding
between landlords and lements.
Earl GREY was net disposed to expense a decided opinion
against the principle of the clause, which had for its object
the promotion of mutual agreements between landlords and
tenants; but its effect would be to make an entire alteration
is the principle of rating. This was a subject which would
demand reconsideration by the house, probably at an early
period ; sad, therefore, lee hoped the clause would not be
pressed.
Lord MONTEAGLE hoped the clause would be perse-
vered in, and he should give it his support.
Lord CAMPBELL said that whatever danger attended
the passing of this hill, it would be greatly aggravated by
the addition of the clause Imposed. His mast earnest desire
wee that the clause should be withdrawn.
The Earl of WICKLOW thought it the best framed
dense in the bill; but, considering that it was an inter-
/stenos with a money abuse, and, if adopted, must lead to
the rejection of the bill, he hoped it would not be pressed.
If carded, it would not come into operation for two or three
rem, on mount of the alarm and distrust with which the
bill wee viewed in Ireland.
Lord MONTEAGLE referred to the case in which the
dues known as the Duke of Wellington's clause had been
introduced into a former poor-law bill in this house, and had
been accepted by the House of Commons, although it swan
Interference with a money daubs. This furnished a nom- 1
lilatary by the House of Commons on their own privileges
Lord REDESDALE mid be would got press the clangs.
Met what had beea stated; but he thought it very hard,
after every one here had admitted that the clause was a good
sae, that he *sold be asked to withdraw iton account of its
interfering with the privileges of the other house.
Earl GREY was not prepared to say that the insertion of
the clause would certainly cause the rejection of the bill ;
but it wee probable it might induce the other house to view
less favourably the other amendments their lordships had
introduced. . .

persuaded that any contest of that description, would only
have the effect of diverting the attention of members from
the real point at issue. He was himself careless as to the
result, but having carefully caosidcred all the circumstances
of the em, he was anxious to submit the particular view
which he had formed. The question before the house arme
upon a bill for uniting the Birmingham and Oxford Junc-
tion Railway Co.nwiy and the Birmingham, Wolverhamp-
ton, and Dudley Railway, into one o =piny, and for autho-
rising the sale of the amalgamated railways to the Great
Western Company. A petition of certain shareholders *as
presented against this bill. That petition was referred to'.
the committee; an objection was started to the hearing of
the petitioners ; and, after a very elaborate and able argu-
ment, the committee came to the decision that the petitioners
had no locus standi before them, and were not entitled to be
heard. Now, this decision was, he thought, erroneous; and
he trusted that, on grounds which he would shortly submit
to the house, it would be determined that the math r should
be reoresidered. In the Birmingham and Oxford Junction
Railway Bill parliament introduced clauses, empowering the
Great Western C.,mpany to lease or to purchase the line with
the consent ascertain number of sh areholde rs to be expressed
at a general meeting. Besides this power, a clause wee in-
troduced, technically called a running clause, which gave to
the Great Western Company an absolute power of using the
line. In the Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and Dudley
Bill, no inch powers as he had mentioned were given; the
two lines were perfectly distinm and independent. Such
being the state of things, immediately after the passing of
the act the directors of the Birmingham and Oxford line
gave notice to the shareholders to send in their scrip, in order
that it might be exchanged for sealed certificates. The
period for sending it in was originally limited to
the 15th of September ; it was afterwards extended to
the 14th of October, end a further extension was
made to the 14th of December. Now let the house observe
that the Birmingham and Oxford directors consi-ted of 12,
with power under the act of increasing their number to 18 ;
that of the 12 existing directors, 6 were also directors of the
Birmingham and Dudley line, and 3 directors of the Great
Western Company; so that upon any auestion on which the
Birmingham and Dudley and thirOrmit Western Company
were jointly interested they could command a majority of
votes. The hon. and learned member then described the
souse of dealing amongst shareholders, between the passing
af a bill and the issuing of the registered certificates, and
chewed that the result of what occurred in this case was to
has. a great number of the shareholders unrepresented. A
cmeeting of the company took place on the rrtf October, 1846. At that meeting his honour-
able Mend the member for Reading (Mr Russell)
well-known as the chairman of the Great Western Company,
and who was also a director of the Birmingham and Oxford
Railway, was present. The question was put to hins,whether
the Groat Western Company meant to take advantage of the
power to lease or purchase the Birmingham and Oxford
line ? to which he replied, " We have no desire to do that
because we have the power of using the line at pleasure."
But there was another line of railway, vie., the Birmingham
and Dudley, the possession of which would carry the Great
Western Company further to the north. A suggestion
was, therefore, thrown out, that if the Birmingham and
Oxford Compaq would mal wilt the Birmingham
and Dudley the Great WeutomtiMoseton would contract for the
punkin of the amolgammatil Om, and the result was the
passing of a erminekin deetmliel the amalgamation expe-
dient, and aalhrhhtgtmdhtalrs to apply to parliament.
In of what he Mil Motioned, the meeting was
very attanded, and ammo el the shareholders propene
mode m to the prompoilags, which he thought was
orrriorible. There was a material difference between
addle independeat line, the price of the shares of which
Mildet heat a certain amount, and first amalgamating with
carbar Ire and then selling the joint lines, the shares of
Midi might not be of the same value as those
of sae et the original lines ; and any single share
holder MA a right to object to the latter murse. He
admitted that it was stipulated that the agreement
should be submitted to a general meeting of the three com-
panies, and that application must be made to parliament;
but what he contended was, that objecting shareholders who
thought their interest seriously affected had • right to be
heard in opposition. It appeared that many shareholders
were in favour of entering iuto negotiaticno with the North-
Western Company, with the view of bringing about a joint
lease of the line by that company and the (treat Western
company. A general meeting, to be held on the 4 h of
December, was advertised for the purpose of confirm-
ing the resolution of the 30th of October. In conse-
quence of the hinting of the sealed certificates having
been postponed until the 14th of December, and of the fact
that so many snares had changed hands thee if the meeting
were held not more than half of them would be represented,
the directors were requested to postpone the meeting until
the month of January. To Vat request the directors de-
clined to accede ; the meeting was accordingly held, and the
molution of October was confirmed in spite of an amend
proposing that the meeting should be adjourned. Tim he.,
and learned member then referred to the meeting caul
on the 13th of March, on the requisition of the
dissentient shareholders, in which, he said the latter
represented 35,000 shares, while the directors pia.
sent represented only 1,000 shares. At this meeting the
shareholders elected six new directors, in accordance with
the provisions of the act, and they agreed to a peti-
tion against the amalgamation, to which the directors
refused to attach the seal of the company. The names of
Sir Harry Verney and other shareholders had since been at-
tached to the petition ; and the petition having been pre-
sented to the home, had been referred to the committee, and
the committee had refused to hear the petition.rs, on the
ground that they bad no locus stondi. He under-
stood the ground of their decision to be, that
the petitioners could not be heard against their
own directors. This rule would hold good while the ali-
, rectors kept within the limits of their authority ; but he
maintained that in this case the directors had exceeded their
powers, which did nut extend to an amalgamation between
the two companies. In the event of a canal company being
converted into a railway company, a shareholder might un-
doubtedly object to such a proceeding, on the ground that he
had not contemplated it. This distinction had been recog-
nised in various cases resembling that under consideration.
In 1842, a bill was introduced for raising additional capital
for the Bolton and Preston railway ; and Mr. Hardcastle, a
shareholder, was heard on his petition, because the
bill provided for an extension of the powers which he had
originally contemplated. In the case of the Midland Rail-
ways Consolidation Bill, in 1844, the object of which was to
consolidate three existing railways ; in that of the Taff Vale
Railway, in 1842 ; and in that of the Eastern Counties and
Northern and Eastern Railways amalgamation, the same
principle had been acted upon. The present case was
stronger than those which he had mentioned, inasmuch as
the great body of the shareholders were the petitioners.
Now, he could not help remarking that the preamble of the
hill said, " And the Birmingham and Oxford Junction Rail-
way Company, and the Birmingham, Wolverhampton, and
Dudley Railway Company, are desirous of becoming
united into one company, for the purpose of jointly
executing the said railways." When examined be-
fore the committee, the chairman, Mr. Muntz, was
asked whether he thought it would be advan-
tageous to the two companies if the amalgamation took
place. To this question he answered, "Ido ; " but he was
not asked whether the shareholders were in favour of the
amalgamation, though that question was so materiel in re-
ference to the preamble. (Hear, hear). The hon. and
learned member then referred to the proceedings at equity,
and te the mandamus which stands for hearing in the
Oman's Bomb on Saturday next, and contended that
estking whisk had been done, or might be done, either at
law or equity, mold prejudice the right of the parties to be
lead i•
114. 00IILIIJIline proceeded to explain the course
whisk had bees taken by the enmities of which he was
shine. It had boon the duty of the committee to con-
sider how far the provisions of the bill were consistent with
ablit interest, and at the tame time with the rights of
. The first question was whether the shareholders
be allowed to impugn the acts of the corporation
badly ad he by no means confirmed that than
wee Mar se se pots.y in the admission a each a
ear, bear.) Nothing could be more dangerous
Lrirl bLaiolphe than to allow a dissatisfied minority to appear se
Cl=egidest the acts of • corporation ; and it was upon
that the committee bad decided. Parliament
had that the Oxford and Birmingham Company
might sell or Isms to the Great Western Company. Not a
weed was said about the North Western Company ; and
was kIIOWII to every one who had attended to this
situ, that the very principle on which the power was
glom to the Great Western Company was that if
Wig up, through that company, a competition
k the trade batman Birmingham and London against
North Western Compeer/. (Hear, hear.) The
alleged
that they bad bees precluded from voting
they bad got received their certificates in time; but
lI wouhl hie fennel that the Ma of parliament regulated the
mode In whisk new ahareholisn were to be admitted to
vote, and Hat what was soil as to the sealed certificates had
gZto de with the goalies. In cases where shares were
sy the mem of the purehmer was to be entered in a
NSA the registsr of Wader, sad until the transfer was
ammista, do vender onoriaosii liable as a shareholder.
rote**Mel He mart of the directors in
rote to ell
dr rnirron amt a petition against an
act pengady monlot ielatatiyintallMfbils. In &similar
ems the p•IIIIMS hat the maamittas ma the Lieu.-
lead owilloryMll,widde masa ibeamealgaseatiopr two mm-
=2: taken a comae ash to that pursued by the
of which he (Mr, Owalburn) was a member. He
saw no nom why • dlrasdpriessipis should be adopted in
the ere odor oreaMredem

The elan*. we. then withd.rawn.
Earl GREY proposed in' addition to the 16th clans*,
relating to cz officio guardians, authorising their number to
be made up from the highest rate-payers, to be nominated
by the magistraUsywhere any of the latter were not disposed
to act.
After a short conversation the clause was agreed to.
Lord ABINGER moved a clause, restricting the glue
amount of rate to be levied, either on the landlord or the
tenant, to one-eizth of the net annual value of the property
rated. He might be told that this also was an interference
with a money clause, but he could not understand the prin-
ciple by which this house should be interdieted from making
any alterations in a bill like this, because such alteration,
interfered with the money clauses.
After a few wads from Earl Gave, the clause war put
and negatived.
Earl FITZWILLIAId also moved a clause to limit the
duration of the bill to three years, and until the end of
the then next union of parliament.
This clause was also negatived without any discussion.
The Earl of CLANCARTY inquired whether the govern-
ment intended to aoseaspany this bill with any manure for
the suppression of mendicancy in Ireland ?
Earl GREY replied, that a bill for that object had reached
an advanced stage in the other house of parliament, and
would shortly be brought up, sad, be trusted, become soon
part of the law of the land.
The bill was then pseud.
THE WHITSON HOLIDAYS.
Earl GREY gave notice that his noble friend the Presi-
dent of the Council would, on Thursday, move that the
house at is rising adjourn to Friday week.
Their lordships then (at 12 o'clock) adjourned to
Thursday.

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BIRALDIGRAY AND OXFORD JUNCTION RAIL-
WAY.

On an unallion for the ones:Mrs tion of the report IS the
Biretiagher Oa Oxford Junction, and Birmingham, Wei-
osannimasn. Mg Daley Railways Amalgamation Ha,
air. =MUG= rtee to 1110,0 " that the bid he re-
herd bra te the erre ramitre, with an inebtanuiss to
befil the prudes of Ott Homy Verney mod eammi
of 'dm thereirbiere in the Hi h mid
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=lledway, satinet the said bill." lie saes he ewer
enure tile leer that in Mnaine forward that queer le
bed *sly bees aerated by a desire that if is the emus of
the pereirge, Jude, had failed in its 4tr, ea eggar-
lesity- urea he Worded of doing what wee dig* omen
tie eiranalleelea. Re bird an all abbe tire this
queries we le be nide a resat tor renewing dr beide
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the test faigsliimee) expremped an °pintos that the
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elthe lies were bound to fulfil their engagements.
Mr. 11111111411 L lON amid shouts of divide, and said, he
was ail pin to afros himself to the Gres, but to complain
of the sondest d amemben who came down there to vote on
saes* of whist' they knew nothing, solely in conszquence
of a essme. If Ms taflpenal was to be respected by the
paha* they mast nape* to elves. He objected, on prio-
del., to revue, the beldam d committees ; but be had an
interest la tido line, sad Offirfcce he should not vote.
Iced 01101119KNOR hoped that all members who had
• Pagalrf Yana in either it the two great competing
Ham wadi haw the hoe. amber's example, and refrain
from vseing. Ms had an interest in one of them, and that
was the seem be intended is take himself.

is interest in one of the lines,
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abrOset mania hem messes h, thought right.
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way, bat lde seasekninte ware Nazism% see V& line carried
oat, as
ndstee.d he shasid vent aemediegly he the deli= of the
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out safildent to reveres the deny= albs semattner.
The hems divided.—For the amendment, 62.
Adeibat,
The report was them agreed to.

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 19, 1847.

ADJOURNMENT OF THII HOUSE.
Lord O. BENTINCK moved that the house at its rising
should attars till I'hunday. For tie lad half cestary the
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nothing in the Derby Day which entitled it to linguist
precedence.
The SPEAKER said the prudee had always been to take
switines regarding the adjournment of the house at an early
hour et the eveniog, for the convenience of members
theingne. (Hear, hear. )
The anion was then agreed to.
THE LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND.

Mr. HUME asked whether government had made any
arraisemonto for fil'ing up the vacancy in the ot:nce of Lord
Liselowat of Ireland ?
Lord J. RUSSELL, in a voice full of emotion, said:
Perhaps the house will permit me, in answer to this queer
don, to express the grief which both her Majesty's ministers
and the Sovereign whom we have the honour to wee feel
at the melancholy loos of a nobleman whose intimate know-
ledge of Ireland, whose clear judgment, whose conciliatory
qualities, were so well adapted to soften the animosities that
have long been the bane of that country, and to point the
way to future improvement. (Hear, hear.) Having said
these few words respecting the calamity which has occurred,
I will inform the bon. gentleman who has asked this ques-
tion, that her Majesty's ministers have thought it their duty
to advise leer Majesty immediately to fill up the office of
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland which has thus become vacant.
(Hear, hear.) Whatever opinions the government may en-
tertain respecting the general nature of that office, and with
I reference to the policy of maintaining it for any length of
time, as a part of the government of the United Kingdom,
we are clearly and unanimously of opinion that the present
' eireumetances of Ireland do not admit of such a change ef
authority as would have to be introduced by any change in
the mode in which Ireland is governed. (Hear.) We have,
therefore, thought it absolutely necessary to advise her Ma.
jesty to fill up the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland with-
out delay. Ido not intend, in the present parliament, to
introduce any measure by which an alteration shall be made
in the constitution of that authority, end having adopted
this determination, on our own responsibility, we think it
absolutely necessary to fill up the office for the present.
SITIING O: COMMITTEES.

On the motion of Sir J. GRAHAM, leave was given for
committees to sit to-morrow (this day), notwithstanding the
adjournment of the house.
DR. BOWRING ♦ND MR. MOTT.
Mr. FERRAND, after the solemn denial given last night
to the statement formally made by the hon. member tor
Belton, that Mr. Mott had been dismissed for misconduct,
begged to ask the hon, member for Bolton whether he was
prepared to take any steps for vindicating Ids character and
that of his constituents ? (Laughter.)
Dr. BO WRING did not see any necessity for vindicating
his own charaeter or that of his constituents. All he had said
was, that having reason to complain of certain statements
made by Mr. Mott respecting the treatment of the poor of
Bolton, be bad complained of them, and the right hon.
baronet the member for Dorchester having then informed
him that Mr. Mott had been dissociated from the commis-
sion, he bad naturally taken this as a proof of disapprobation
on the part of the government and of the board, and as a de-
monstration of his own veracity.
Sir 0. GREY said, that what had fallen from him last
night was not • solemn denial of his hon. friend's
statement, but an explanation that Mr. Mott had retired
from the commission in consequence of the terms of an act of
parliament, which necessitated the reduction of the number
of sasistant commissioners from 10 to S. . .

Sir J. GRAHAM confirmed this account of the matter.

SIR C. NAPIER.
Admiral SOWLES asked whether the government, in
appointing the gallant member for Marylebone to the com-
mand of the experimental squadron, bore in mind that he
had distinctly expressed an opinion unfavourable to Sir W.
Symonds' construction?
Admiral DUNDAS had full confidence that Sir C. Napier
would do his duty, as he had always done hitherto.
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