The Express.
London, England, 1853-04-22 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TIWitaDAT, APRIL 21.
The LoaD Cites mune. took his ant at 5 titlark.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
OPENING OP TEE CIITETAL PALACE ON SCEDATS.—By
the Reel of SHAFTESBURY, from St. Dunstan in the
West, Southwark, Toth, fit. Matthew's Liverpool, and
2,076 of the cumwercial young men of London ; and the
Bishop of OXFORD, from Wingfield, Reading, and other i
places is Berkshire, and from places in Oxfordshire; 1
against.
AINVIAION OP TAU Jews to PARLIAMINT.-117 the
Lid of SHAFTBSBURY, from Sherborne Dugout-hold,
tisintboreagh, and Wedneabiary ; and the Earl of EOLIN-
TON, from plugs in Scotland ; against.
j CANADA CLERGY lIIIIIIVIS BILL.—By the Earl of
I EOLINTON, from the presbytery of Kintyre and other
1 Pleeeslo Scotland, against.
I GRANT TO MATNOOTII.—By the Earl of SUM.' TES-
BURY, from Tain ; and the Earl of EOLINTUN, from
plum in Scotland; againat.
FOREIGN REFUGEES.
IN reply to some observations by Lord Sagowicif, which
were totally inaudible in the gallery,
The Earl of CLARENDON said that he conld not, at
the resent moment, announce any decided intention on the
put of her Majesty's government to bring forward any
measure on the subject of foreign refugees. Their lord-
nhipe mast be aware, from what had passed to th it house,
of the great difficalties technically, as well as practically,
with which the question was surrounded ; and although
to agreed with his noble friend opposite upon the iuiport-
puce of settling this question as between this country and
Yrance ; and although he felt confident that when any
measure that ought to receive the sanction of parliament
was: brought forward, it would be discussed in that house
without any display of party spirit, yet he felt so much the
Importance of proposing a measure which should receive
the sanction of parliament, and that there wets so many
itfliculties in the way, that he could not at present an-
moan any intention of the government to brine forward
mutt a measure, but he could assure his noble friend that
the subject was receiving the most earnest attention of the
igeverenseut, (Hear.)
The Rail of MALMESBURY said as he was the person
who Opted the convection which was the subject of their
c Haversation, he might be permitted to sal, although he
egreed with the noble earl that many technical difficulties
stood in the way of improving the laws respecting eOlll,Ol-
- still be must easter th it those difficulties might be
s 'melt lightened gad lessened if that (the opposition) side of
the house abstained from imitating the conduct which he
had not with from the ether side of the hoes' when he was
to the noble earl's pleas last year. Considering the con-
T. idiots which he had Aped was no Invention or act of his,
nod that aotwi ell the gaierepresentatiou made
on the odd_ eat, is that bare, bat by the public
prms--mbeepregenledene that ash' not have been made
if they had set emewated from party feelings—he said, cen-
t...lens( the geneemlima wee DO act of his, but of the govern-
ment whisk bed peeesded that of his noble friend behind
trzaileadmeekkelei that the only addition cad alteration
he bed agile te that convection, and to the act
which he bed .brewebt Into that house to carry it into exe-
cution, was to defied refugees in this country from being
ki.laapprd again, ask were, to Frames, by any false accu-
sations, be must take that opportunity of pretesting against
those mirrepreesedgilleme, which attributed to him the
setborship of the mweention in question.
The LORD OHANOILLOR could not allow the obeer-
'atoms of the noble earl to pus without sal ing—and he
*puke net only fee hismelf, but he believed he uttered the
I, ationnts of every noble lord on his side of the house—
that there was not the lust symptom of party holier, or
any attempt to thwart the measure of the noble earl in its
leniffla. Oa the contrary, it was pointed out that
the anginal error had occurred en the part of
the government which preceded the last govern-
meet, and it oceirred to Irish sad he believed
to the Lord Chief Justice. that there wee difficulties in the
till introduced by the noble earl which were insurmounta-
ble. He could net help thinking that wash was also the
°ionise of his setae sad learned , otherwise he
would have eutleinied bow thouilMllim could have been
rot over. If he wars. mistaken. die noble earl withdrew
the bill because be the diflealties scold not be met ;
but 0 suppose that there would be Iny party feeling us to
the maarier la whisk marshals could bed be brought to
justice, seemed le bin to he a supposition not very credita-
ble to their bow. liecould only say for ii*him-
self, that he the bill because he did not think it
gwesible that NEM be carried in the form in which it had
been istrodued ',their lordships house. (Hear, hear.)

Lord CAMPBELL mild bear testimony that, optima
file, they were most anxious on his side of the house to
assist in passing the measure, end he never heard any
blame imputed to the noble earl for bringing it forward.
That house wild °sly carry the convention into effect as it
bad been agreed to, and the noble earl was advised to try
to amend it, with a sincere promise that when it was so
amended, he inlaid have the cordial support of the opposite
aide of the haws in c truing • bill which might be framed
according Manch amendment. (Hear, hear.)
Tho Marquis of CLANR ICARDE said, that although he
was one of thane who opposed the measure when it was
brought forward, he did not join in any misrepresentation
against the noble earl. It was decided by the government
of which be was • member, that such • bill should be brought
forward • bat the ci.t.inet never agreed to the draft of the
bill in the shape in which the noble earl had introduced it'
to parliament. He did not think that it was a bill which
any government ought to have passed is that shape.
Earl GRANVILLE said the noble earl opposite had
made a similar eharr once before, when he (Earl Granville)
got up and stated as fully and clearly as he could what share
tLe late government, of which he was a member, bad in this
convention ; and, 'Der that explanation, he thought there
was no want of candour on that side of the house which
would justify the noble earl in making each • charge as he
bad that evening. (Hear, hear.)
The Earl of MALMESBURY said there wee an essential
dilemma both in spirit and matter between the observa-
tions of the noble earl who had just sat down and the noble
marquis es the ma/ion referred to.
K INGSTON-U PON-HULL ELECTION.
The Earl of ABERDEEN, in rising to move that their
lordships agree with the Commons in the address to her
Majesty, with reference to a commiesion to inquire into
corrupt practices at the elections for Hull, said that, for the
litmus which he had before stated, he did not think it ne-
cessary to give their lordships any reason why the motion
should be agreed to, because the evidence showed that
bribery of the most extensive nature had prevailed in the
' borough.
Lard CAMPBELL said it appeared that all the proceed-
lags were quite regular in this ease, and no question could
arise as is the Canterbury case.
After • brief conversation. in the usual inaudible tone,
between Lord St. LIONARD'S, Lord LTNONIMIST, and Lord
the motion was agreed to.
THE CLITIIEROE ELECTION.
Lord CAMPBELL gave notice that if any noble lord
moved the house to agree to the address of the Commons ir

the Clittaeroe ease Issialsould move, by way of amendment,
that the motion be considered that day six months.
JEWISH DISABILITIES BILL.
The Berl of ABERDEEN nave notice that be should
more the second reading of this bill on Friday, the 29th
instant.
CONFERENCES.

Some time having been oenthied by a delay in appointing
a conference on an electoral commission with the Commons,
Lord BEAUMONT said bethought that these conferences
with the Coansoosan the subject of COMMilleiolls were bee, m-
ing so bequest that their lordship ought to consider the in-
convenience of the suspension of business which was thus
occasioned. (Hear, hear.) They bad done away with the
general teconvenienee of conferences, and he would suggest
lathe Inventive mind of his noble friend the chairman of the
committees (Lord Redesdale) whether the inconvenience in
this particular might not also be done away with. (lieu.)
he East of ABERDEEN made some comment on the
animation ; but he was not audible in the gallery,
THE COLONIAL (AMERICAN) FISHERIES.
The Rut of MALMESBURY put the question of
er'..icla be had given notice respecting the state of
the negotiations pending between Great Britain and the
bruited States on the subject of the colonial fisheries.
lie (Lord Malinesbury) was at this moment ignorant
wish regard to the position of the negotiations:
and it the noble lord could do so without injury
to the public orgies, he would perhaps inform the
home how far they had been advanced, and whether
they were soma likely to be deemed to a conclusion. The
fishery season was ciao-wing; and it was very desirable
to knew if it was the intention of her Majesty's government
to cautious prutecti•A to thou British fisheries, especially
the is-shore fleherie., ea tit. ease understanding and in the
NIRO mann, rin which they had been protected by the Lite
guerament ?
The E irl of CLARENDON—I have to inform the noble
earl that her Majesty's minister at Wathiasten, in Can-
fortuity with instrucimaa which he received from her Ma-
jury's government, and in pursuanotof the desire expressed
by the President of the United States, entered into a dis-
cussion at Washington for culling arrangements to carry
into effect en a better Motiog the commercial relations be-
tween the United States and this country. Mr. Crampton
received the Wilt cordial assurances both from the Pron-
sleet and from the Secretary conducting foreign attain, of
their agreement in the views taken by her Majesty's gi-
vernment, and of their belief that a convention might be
comehaded in a satisfactory form. Mr. Crampton, at their
request, proposed the project of a convention, on which,
however, toms difficulties arose, and some objections were
made, but the whole prothedings being conducted in the
rant fritailly spirit. When, however, the President,
is his knead message to Congress, declared that
is his opinion the two subjects, that of tie fisheries
and the reciprocity of trade, had better be em-
bodied in two separate dons, Mr. Crampton
enaveyed to him the reasons .1 he believed rich • cosi, e
would be objected to by her Majesty's government. The
pioject wis nevertheless sent hoes*, and agreed to by her
naVesty.s hoer rnmetit, with some 'modifications ; and my
noble friend (Lord John Russel) expressed to Mr. Cramp-
ton his sanest deem that it might be concluded. slid thou
lie accepted as a proof that the two governments were de-
termined to e rry on their respective relations in Vie spirit
of justice, accommodation, and liberality. This who met
la the ace spirit by Mr. Everett. But some fresh ob-
ketions cad new difficulties that were entlrelfunforwen
arose ; thee, oecamosed a new refitment to her JI .jetty's
governmeni ; thus it Weans wtaatbstly Impossible to
wary the m.tter further, w U. any hope of bringing it to a
sacepful issue during the ah.rt perk.]: .a which the late
government of the United ististes were ti remain in office.
The queahort must therithue at borardered to be at

present under negotiation ; and I am sure that
my noble friend opposite would be le last man
to call upon me, under the circumstances, to
speak further on the point. lam sore, also, that my noble
friend will require no assurance from 1123 that the east,
ability, ..ntl great judgment characterising all Mr. Cramps
ton's conduct will not allow any opportnnity to creeps of
brirelog the question to a conclusion, alike honourable and
useful to both countries. With respect to the other ques-
tion asked—regarding the protection of these fisheries. I
have to state that precisely the same instructions that were
I sent out last year, and fee the same purpose, have been
I sent out by her Majesty's present government. Those instruc-
tions appear to me to be framed with great care and caution,
and 1 believe no alteration whatever has been made in
them. My noble friend will receive farther satisfaction
from knowing that those instructions will littewiae be earned
into effect by the same gallant Admiral to whom they were
addressed last year, and who, I am sure, will evince again
the same determination to protect every British right, as well
as the same caution in respect to the rights and
interests of others. I need hardly say, that in the praise
bestowed on that gallant officer by my noble friend I en-
tirely concur; and perhaps, what is of more consequence to
him the opinion thus expressed is fully shared us by my
right hon. friend the First Lord of the Admiralty. Some
time ago my right hon. friend addressed a letter to Sir G.
Seymour, thanking him for the important services which
he had rendered, and stating that it would be his pleasing
duty to bestow the first good service admiral's pension
which fell in. (Hear, bear.)
The Earl of DERBY thought that the noble earl bad
made a statement which would be entirely satisfactory to
their lordships, the country, and the colonies.
FUNDS AND PROPERTY UNDER THE ADMINIS-
TRATION OF THE COURT OF CHANCERY.
. .

Lord ST. LEONARD'S, pursuant to notice, asked what
were the iotentions of her Majesty's government with re-
gard to the funds and property under the administration of
the Court of Chancery. The noble and learned lord ad-
dressed their lordships at some length, but note mingle con.
netted sentence reached the gallery. We understood him
to advert to the remarks of the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer, on a recent occasion, in respect to a suggested method
of dealing, in his extensive financial scheme, with the
suitors' fund. and to Impress his great apprehension of the
results of such an interference.
The Earl of ABERDEEN, in reply, said that the noble
and le used lord had been contending with a purely image
nary measure. His right hon. friend the Chancellor of the
Exchequer had certainly stated that the present system of
dealing with the fund in question was unsatisfactory, and
that he hoped some change would be effected; but he had
also stated that he was not in a condition to submit any
proposal on the subject ; and is fast there was no purport
of the kind before the government. Undoubtedly, how-
ever, if his right hon. friend, who bad paid great attention
to the matter, should make a proposal, it would be well
worthy of the consideration of the government.
TILE LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND AND
THE KARL OF RODEN.
The Earl of CLANCARTY rose to move for the produc-
tion of the correspondence between the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland and the Earl of Roden, respecting the restoration of
the latter to the commission of the pesee. He said the
house would recollect the allusion which had recently been
mad* to the act of the Lord Lieutenant in proposing to re-
instate the Earl of Roden in the commission of the peace,
in connexion with the restoration of Mr. Kirwan, being an
act of grace, and that while restoring a stipendiary magis-
trate the Lord Lieuteaant was not unwilling Co do a similar
act of grace to his noble friend. His noble friend was dis-
pleased at any analogy being drawn between his case and
that of • stipendiary magistrate, the propriety of whose re-
storation was strongly questioned, and he brought forward
a correspondence, which he (Lord Clancarty) telt to be of
such a nature that it ought to Ise laid on the table.
The noble lord then proceeded to express his
regret that the letter of the Lord Lieutenaut
to Lord Rodin was so worded as to render
it impossible for his noble friend to accept the offer of res-
toration ; and he urged that there was a strong contrast be-
tween that proceediug and the mode in which Mr. Kirwan
was restored. He concluded by saying that he moved for
the correspondence not so much with the view of pressing
for its production as with the hope that it might lead to a
re-consideration of the case of his noble friend.
The Earl of ABERDEEN said there was not the least ob-
jection to the production of the papers ; and he was sure the
house would not expect him to go into the case of the noble
earl. The correspondence would speak for itself, and when
it was produced it would be seen whether there was any
such intention on the part of the Lord-Lieutenant as the
noble earl supposed, and whether the refusal to accept his
cffer on the part of the noble earl (Roden) was justified by
the terms of the letter of the Loril•Lieutenant.
The motion was then agreed to, and their lordships ad-
journed at 20 minutes to 7 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TIIVRSDAT, APRIL 21.
The Seraxau took the chair at 4 o'clock.