The Express.
London, England, 1846-09-03 00:00:00

DERBY ELECTION.

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WEDNESDAY.—The nomination for this borough
took place this morning at nine o'clock in the Town-hall.
W. R. MOUPLET, Esq., the mayor, presided, and opened I
the business of the day by stating that he had convened the
meeting in obedience to the precept of Sir It. Wilmot, the
High Sheriff, for the election of a burgess to serve in parlia-
ment for the borough of Derby, in the room of E. Stoat,
Esq., who, since his election, had accepted the office of
steward of the Chiltern hundreds.
The formal proceedings having been gone through,
J. B. Ceourrox, Esq., rue to propose Edward Strutt,
Esq., their late member, as a fit and proper person to repre-
sent the borough in parliament. The honour, integrity, and
assiduity of that gentleman was, fortunately, known to all
the electors, and his usefulness as a member of Parliament
had so attracted the attention of the present government
that tkey had conferred upon him the important office of
President of the Railway Board. (Cheers and groans.)
Mr. D. Fox, in seconding the nomination, observed that
Mr. Stoat had never deviated from the direct path, either
from the hope of gain or fear of loss. lie had always in-
formed his constituents beforehand what he meant to do.
He had never violated his declarations, and had never be-
' trayed them. He had out gone to parliament for the mere
honour of the thing, but with a determination to perform his
duties ea a legislator, which he had done, not in that dazzling
manner which placed a man always before the public, but in
the more useful and more laborious character of an indefati-
gable member of parliamen•ary committees. The govern-
ment had shown their confidence in him, and he doubted not
that the electors would show that he had not forfeited theirs.
Mr. L. Newzost proposed Sir Digby Mackworth. The
contest in which they were about to engage was one in which
he would not take part did he not feel that in it was involved
a great end important principle. He did not deny that Mr.
Strati had proved himself to be a man of the highest inte-
grity; and if the question were merely one of personal character
he would not stand there to oppose him. But the question
woe. hod Mr. Strutt supported in parliament that groat
pliaelpie which was essential to the well-Deko:fats washy
email the happiness of the people ; had he the PTO-
eseisat shamelwr of this country (Cheers and biome) That
gebelple bad teen already attieked in the mast
soma in the late increased flitat to Ma
wad haighlo*—wild it woo farther threatemei Ile
pima MINGIMIIIeat. dtr Dl.Xsekwerth, it was tom, mos a
eleeaß;lnt be wee a me of es high character, aui et is
honour aa Mr. Bnott, and what was afar greater
wegeotemee, he was a atea who brought principle to lam
agaladvaalllatingazoseliessy. (Cheers.)
Mr. Lewis asessioi the statination of We Digby, who it

vENING, MEMBER 3,.1843.

was t dleff thewld blow had *Dewed the great Duke all
the Plea=ler war, awl bad bust pesent at the
shiny of Waterloo. telessee) The ironed,
however, e be earned Ildreeikess wee, diet he
wu the inewereleg minuses a reenheet Medlin
(tear, shitty
whit r
hear)—t• whidt the Whip had et al duo 'rinsed a
de.terrained hatred. air Higby's Miele bed beta
with unnecessarily disearting mu of town,testV
result of the can vase bed am* ant Nat was Me the *pike
of the majority of the eiseesea. The characteristic of the
Whigs was love of plus, awl it wee that love of place width
had occasioned the present duties. (Hear, hear.) Lord J.
Russell had accepted Dike on the do-nothing principle, and
upon no other could he continue to hold for the moment
he touched upon any one of those questions upon which the
Whip and Conservatives differed, all sections of the Conser-
vative body would unite u one man and tarn him out.
(Hear )
No other esedidate being proposed,
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Mr. Brume came forward and was nerved with loud
cheers, laimehd with somiesymptems et dhapprobation. He
tendered hie grateful desks to his two Mends who had pro-
posed Gad soseaded and to the reposer and seconder
of kb opponent, for the latiesmay they had borne
to his charmer and peal >ih could not but feel
lam arra that ha wee the manned rag to the elec-
tors the to area &aka. die MVO ispsaially as • disso-
lution of the mud pediment and& net he eery far ,
teat ; het he he dab eameletion that is weepting the dim
whieh had hoes onlinved upon him by Her liajett be hell
received the alms* unanimous approbation of his folleele
towasums, for in the mum of his canvass he hid foot=
whaleveretherobjectioesseiglabe eatertained to his
in other aspects, or thelysiesit he had assisted in proem&
gating, his aseeptad tan met been complained of by
e
any con The Send which he was appointed a member
was to he memadel wider the aathority of an Act of Par-
liament whisk bed reesived the unanimous sanction of both
bosses opfeisommt, and to which was to be referred pewees
.
for cook ag existing railways to conform to the law, ad
to inquire, by means of local agents or otherwise, as to re
relative merits of sew schemes, so as to provide in the met
effectual way for the requirements of the matey, ant to
prevent the expense and delay which, under the presses
system of railway legislation, was occasioned. It was as
mere love of place on his part that had rendered the premed
election necessary. (Hear, hear.) He should be ea
of their favoar if he were testy that he was imeasibieTorria
tical distinction, or that he did not value the bar* beam
which had been conferred upon him by those high in autho-
rity—beit as for the emoluments of office had be been in-
fluenced by those, be might have had themi long ago. Eleven
years ago the offer of office had been made to him and de-
clined. (Chem.) For a man in his position, any emolu-
ment derived from official station could be but • poor sea-
peusatioo for the labour and deprivation of personal mean
sod emenience which most attend it ; and it was not use
be bed been repeatedly erred to do so, sad had been mares
by his Meads that ha was fitted to preside. over the proposed
railway board, and mightin that illphirty be useful to his
country, thee he hit that no love ge ewe or private cos-
shisretaoss Med Wean to dam bin to rem the
ear. (Led drum.) Re New 'tea to the mein ob-
jeedon while wee mode aged* hie delonien, sad upset
which he head& the election wed& hinere-611, vote he had
given oa the liegnmeth Bill. TIM whibe had given after
mature eseddleaties, and in acendemee Ida lie seascienoe.
It was • veep be lid meet/ repeated. ned eim whisk he was
now prepareditees, (Chmee.) Has had doe heard his
puhde miedoet be k that hall nd elsewhere, and
had SS many Mired with his constituents, but
sash difereme nen neemeerfiy exist when mni acted
heneily. (Hem.) He might in some eases have been in
ewer tot me one amid accuse him of not having acted upon
his Inn onaviniso of what was right —(cheers) --or of
having rand to site fairly the grounds of his conviction,
and the el:comeliness under which he voted. (Hear, hear.)
Tb. Maynooth mat bad been continued first by the Irish
pediment, and after the Union, by the Enghsh perks.
meat, be more than fifty years. It had received the mew
ties of Burke, Pitt, Fox, and Percival—the grit Wearer
the so-popery party of his day. During the dam puss
he (Mr. Stria) had been in Parliament, he had always Moi
in favour of it when he happened to be present at its dams-
'ions, and no objection had ever before been taken modest
him by his constituents on that ground. Sir It Peel, of
whose government they knew he had never been a supporter,
brought forward a measure to increase the amount of the
gnat, and showed that the College of Maynooth was in •
state of destitution ; that it did not posses the masse al
giving even a tolerable education to the students, and that
the increasing population demanded • corresponding in-
crease in the number of religious instructers, which the
college, as it existed, afforded no means of supplying.
Under these circumstance's he felt that they must either
pat an end to the establishment altogether, or increase the
peat in order to place it upon the footing government pro-
posed, when the question was first pro-mud to hire, that as
the object was to provide more efficiently for the religious
instruction of the Irish people, and as the revenues of the
bith church were much greater than the wants of that
charily the remenable course was not to tax the people of
=bilater each • purpose so long as there was • surplus
d epplicoble to it, and jingly so as he thought, in theme
TIVISION of the Established Church of Ireland. (Cheers.)
He eoesequently advised his hon. friend Mr. Ward to pro-
pose an amendment to carry out that view, which amend.
asset he supported. It was, however, rejected by a hogs
majority, and it wee then for him to consider whether he
would vote against the goverment, and so put an end to the
college altogether —that hieing the only alternative left by the
stemma dr the bpi, Had the proposal been to establish
fterthellsolt Mae • dime, eitherin England or Ireland—for
Barna Cailidita, or any other particular sect—he would have
WI se Manion in saying that it would be unjust to tax the
pimple at large for su a purpose, and for any such proposi-
tion he would not have voted. ( Hear, hear.) But he had
net given his vote on this question without looking narrowly
into the general state of Ireland, and above all without look-
ing closely into the question of religious endowment there.
What was the position of the Established Church
he Ireland ? While it was distinguished from all
Ober national churches, as being the most wealthy,
it wam also distinguished from all others as being the
Emit of only a small minority of the people—and further
fie revenues had all originally belonged to the Roma
Catholic clergy, and sines transferred to the clergy of the
1 minority. He found also, that a different j ractice prevailed
he Irelaud from any that obtained in England, inasmuch as
every year a vote of parliament was taken for the support of
Paissamt Dissenters in that country. Under these woun-
dless" he did consider that it would have been most unjust
to deprive the Roman Catholics of Ireland Qf the smell
I paean they had previously enjoyed, and, therefore, he bad
' me alternative but to vote for the bill. He was aware that
may of his friends amongst the Dissenters were equally
apposed to all endowment by the state for religious put-
poem. So far as he was personally concerned, that would
have been an excuse for him, bad he voted against the grant,
and so avoided the objection of some of his constituents, but
he thought, as one of the Liberal party, that though, by
leaguing himself for the occasion with the enemies of that
party, he might have prevented the success of the govern-
ment measure, yet when be came in his turn to propose the
abolition or reduction of those monstrous endowments of the
Protestant establishment in Ireland, he would have been
powerless, and defeated by those very men wilt whom he
had so voted on the Maynooth question. (Hoar, hear.)
He did consider then that the feelings of the Roman
Catholic population of Ireland were entitled to some weight,
and that this was peculiarly a. question in which it was no-
cowry to adhere to the Christian precept of " do asyou
be done by"—(cheers. laughter, and groens)—and
upon which it was incumbent upon him to place himself in
the condition of the Irish people, and consider what would
have been his feelings were he an Irish Roman Catholic, and
saw this vote negatived, and another grievance thus added to
the long catalogue of which Ireland had to complain. (Hear,
hear.) These were the grounds on which he had acted,
They might think them erroneous, but all must agree thee
they involved ccnsiderations so important as to deserve great
attention, and such as must operate with great force on the
minds of all honest men. It seemed to be sapposei time,
because he had so voted for this measure, that lie masa
friend to the increase of religious endowments ef Romeo
Catholics and other bodies. No supposition could be mere at
variance with the whole course of his political conduct.
(Hear.) He had on every occasion voted against the coo-
tinuance of the present system of church-rates. (Cheers.)
And not only that, he had also voted against the impurities
of that impost on the public revenue', couaiderimg that it
woad be equally unjust to impose in an indirect saanser
this burden on the dissenters, as to charge it directly upon
them as at present. (Hear, hear.) His feeling was as
averse as theirs to taxing the people of England for the
endowment of the Roman Catholic clergy, or those of any
ether sect. (Cheers.) Now with regard to those measures to
which it would be the duty of the government to give their
•t station, or which had recently parsed. First it was of
great importance to render the administration of the law more
limp and effective. The small debts bill was a measure
ham which he expected much benefit in bringing justice
hem to the peer man's door, and he trusted that it was
bat the beginning of still greater reforms for carrying this
greed prison% an farther Into effect. As to other measures
=et anialiala of the government, as the measure
fire di Improvement of the condition of the
Waking elesses—for the prevention of disease, and
the removal of that absence of comfort—that squalid
wretchedness which unhappily prevailed in many of our
largaepwna—tboee should have his most anxious support.
(Hear, bear.) And not only did the physical condition of
Ne peer require the attention of parliament, but their mental
ilifffilressent was of equal importance, and be should be pre-
game a give a cordial support to any measure for effecting
efadi • purpose, which did not violate the rights of con-
edema (Cheers.) He had been somewhat =Mous to know
on what principle his opponent, who he believed to be a man
of the highest character and honour, presented himself to
the notice of the electors, and he had looked to his printed
address with a view of ascertaining. Without pride or
sanity, he thought there were some points upon which his
dim were superior to Sir Digby's. (Hear, hear.) In
fluiz 'p of many of the principal
anetinal lntlasete knowledge of the local inm-
ost' d the tows—Sep mom he his tried public principle
—(hesr)e-he themillit he hed a manertority ever his oppo-
teed, 01111.1.) HO also thought that he had sees superior
*kit* vieno at sixteen years' faithful esrdm. (Minh
diekkr.) He olidtbel thet pain principle yes the matter
Mira* chief watiikeilisa BM to *passe bassi, in
lialgthaseddrezedideed hie ended enemy eme ef the
sww agitated, ee lii serisi, tM
'lWasw what had hem hie (Mr. Sleutig
kaimilkilka Lei the MlaillieLDCl
ltellek adienie A th• piggy Elm ;and
add
ethos Ilia had been
ups rarbint of disilidemer Ilk Dllby ilackwordt
on thin MOM they won Is fiammee. They knew thin
he (Mr. permit) bed 'lmplant Ibe advocate for protesting
the beriall!, Me by NOW —{poem.) Surely his hon.
°moment soda not have boss amprhied with the feelings

of the electors ef Derby, or he would have_ Orem them some
intimation akin views on that subject. (Hear, hear.) They
knew not whether Sir Digby was • free trader or
a Protectionist. They knew not what were his opinions
ss thed Irish Obleeharat heel hem Amami en nil-
gious PosteMent (Hair The_ irnentiees of
Chureh-rates eel cedownsede he MA left un-
touched in his prfated address; all explained." on these im-
portant subjects was yet to come. For Ithredf he had oily
to add, that if he was again returned te the Reuss of Com-
mons, he should go with a determination to drab himself
to the interests of his eoestituentia and, he Dusted, with
increased powers of usefulness. lf, cm the other lead, they
should determine that the 0060440111 between him and his
native town was now finally sad 4 ever to cease, he would
not say he should receive that determination without
regret and mortification, bat he should retire from
their service with the conscious satisfaction that he
had done his duty— (cheers) and with the convic-
tion that though he had lost the honourable poet of
their representative he had lost it only because he would not
consent to retain it by a compromise of principle. (Hear,
hear.) And with the further conviction that if he fell a
sacrifice, there was no cause in which he could be sacrificed
with more pleasure or more pride than in that of religious
liberty and the cause of an oppressed people. (Much
applause.)
Sir DIORY MACIWORTH, who wee received with cheers
by his friends ; and hootings, groans, and hisses, by the sup-
porters of Mr. Strutt ; said he had not in his address entered
into an explanation of his views on the numerous subjects to
which his hon. opponent had referred, because, bad he done
so, it would not have been read. The vote by ballot was an
old worn-out story. (Oh ! eh, and groans.) He meant that as
a matter of legislation, ft had gone by—he did not know that
it had been brought forward in parliament for some time
past and if it had, the question had been so completely
answered by its total failure in America, where it had
been tried, and ids folly and absurdity so exposed by
the able pamphlet of the late Sidney Smith, that he could
neverbelieve it would be introduced amongst hones*, straight-
forward Englishmen. With regard to the Sugar bill, he had
always when abroad —where he had often been—endea-
voured to uphold the character of Englishmen amongst
foreigners, by showing the enormous sacrifice she had made
in abolishing the slave-trade. Before he could support the
Sugar bill, in any capacity, he mast be convinced that en-
couraging the trade in sugar with countries which employed
slaves to raise it was consistent with that hatred of slavery
which this eon. ift-y had manifested almost as one man.
(Hear, hear.) On th •• question of religious liberty, he knew
there was great variety of opinion in Derby, but no one pre-
sent had a more earnest dears to see the principles of civil
and religious liberty carried out to their full and legitimate
extent than himself. (Cheers.) He would never vote for
making invidious distinctions between the various sects
which professed the Protestant religion. (Hear.) lie
wee a churchman, but there was no warmer friend
than he was to Protestant Dissenters of all denominations.

(Hear.) He came not, however, to stand on any of those
questions upon which his opponent had called for explana-
tion. He stood there on the principle of supporting the ,
Protestant religion of this country. (Hear, leer.) Had the
question been merely political, or one of party, he would not
have come forward as a candidate He had three times re.
fused to bc nominated for boroughs in his own neighbour-
hood, and for the two counties, for he was no political cha-
racter ! but if they elected him, it would be his duty to enter
more deeply into the consideration of all mattes of politics
than he had yet done. He stood on the great ground of the
Protestant religion. And he would tell them why. (Hear.)
They could not but have perceived—and his opponent's
speech led to that conclusion—that there had &en for •
long time, and was now going on a species of conspiracy—(he
did not use the word in its offensive sense)—to introduce
gradually the Roman Catholic r.ligion into Protes-
tant England. (" Hear, hear," laughter, and groans.)
His bon opponent reasoned that it would be unfair not to
give to the Catholic majority of the Irish people the same
privileges which the Protestant majority had here. In other
words, his hon. opponent looked on the Roman Catholic roll-
gion as being on the same footing and entitled to the same
privileges as the Protestant. (A voice " And why not ?" )
He would tell them why not. If they were to give the sup-
port of the state to the Roman Catholic religion in Ireland
because it was the religion of the majority, why should they
not establish the religion of the Hindoos in Ilindostan ?
(Cheers.) He solicited the support, not of Roman Catholics,
if any there were amongst the electors, but of those only who
valued the Protestant religion and the Bible. (Hear, and
cheers.) The Roman Catholics endeavoured all they could
to suppress the Bible. (An elector ." I deny it.') He
had heard it denied before, but in Italy it was im-
possible to obtain a Bible in the Italian language.
and the late pope had prohibited by circular the circulation
of the Bibles of the Bible Society on the Continent. Of late
there had been a universal leaning amongst statesmen to the
doctrine of expediency—and to expediency was to be traced
the measures of the late government for the encouragement
of popery and the threatened endowment of the Roman
Catholic priesthood. It had been said that the people of
Ireland loved their priests. He believed it was more fear
than love, and that if the legislature would resist the priests,
that resistance would be the greatest blessing that could be
conferred upon the Irish people. With regard to education,
• committee of the House of Lords had found that the grant
to Maynooth had been perfectly ineffectual for that purpose.
The fact was that the college was by no means popular
in Ireland, but the grant was given for the purpose
of conciliating the Irish priests by a government that always
acted on the principle of governing Ireland through the
priests, instead of governing the priests and teaching them
not to preach treason in their chapels. Very few sermons
were preached in the Catholic chapels on religious matters,
but much sedition was preached in them. (Oh, oh !) Though
Mr. Strutt objected to endowment by the state for religious
purposes, he did not object to endow the Irish priesthood by
robbing the clergy of the Protestant church in Ireland, and
thus stop the progress of conversion in Ireland. (Cheers.)
Whatever might be said of the Protestant clergy of Ireland
fifty years ago, a more zealous or efficient clergy than those
of the Irish establishment at present did not exist. His only
object in coming forward was to resist the encroachments of
popery. He had been induced to offer himself as a candi-
date at the solicitation of several friends, who agreed with
him on this important question ; and he was determined to
give every man an opportunity of expressing his opinion at
the poll. He had no personal motive to gratify. He would
never have sought to enter Parliament except in some great
cause ; and if he were elected he would do his best to carry
out the great principle he professed there.
The Rev. G. GAWTHOILN inquired what course Sir Dighy
would take, if elected, on the questions of church-rates and
the endowment of a Presbyterian college in Ireland.
Mr. lox Ea (an elector) asked if Sir Digby would (if elected)
support flogging in the army ?
Sir DIODE MACEWOIIIII would give no pledge except to
support Protestantism against Popery. As to flogging in
the army, he had been almost forty years an officer in the
army, and if there was one military duty he abhorred more
than another, it was that of attending the punishment of
flogging. (Hear.) During the last Biz months that he had
commanded a squadron of cavalry no punishment—not of
flogging merely, but of any sort—had taken place. If elected
he should support the determination of the Duke of Welling-
ton to limit the punishment to fifty lashes, with a view to its
total abolition. With regard to church rates, he looked on
that impost as a tax not on individuals but on property ; but
he should be acxious, if returned,. to give the subject full
consideration, with the view of relieving his brother Chris-
tians, the Dissenters, from all real grievances. He would
also give his attention to the subject of Presbyterian endow-
ment, but he would make no pledges.
An ELECTOR inquired if Mr. Strutt was prepared to ex-
tend the franchise, and if so, how far ?
Mr. Sruurr—had always considered the franchise as esta-
blished by the Reform Bill too narrow. He was not pre-
pared to go the length of Universal Saffrage, but he thought
the parliamentary franchise might be properly extended as
far as the municipal franchise.
Sir D. MACKWORTH, in answer to another question, de-
clared that he was an admirer of Lord Ashley's schemes for
alleviating the condition of the working man, but would not
say._how far he would go in limiting the hours of labour.
Mr. Sriterr would protect children working in factories,
but would not interfere between employer and imployed as
to adult labour.
be in faasvhoouwr off Mhandss Strutt.being
taken,
the mayor declared
Mr. LUCAS, on the part of-Sir D. Mackworth, demanded a
it to
poll, which will take place to-morrow (this day).