The Express.
London, England, 1851-06-24 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JUNE 24, 1851.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
!MUSE OF LORDS.—MONDAT, Juss 23.
The I.oltn Cl' secnit.on took his seat at five o'eloak.
IlltillWAYB (SOUTH WALES) BILL.
Esti I'ANYDOK moved the third reading of this bill.
V,,coant HEREFORD objected to the bill in Pe
Yd dead. It was loom deservedly unpopular in those
pry. of Wales with which he was best acquainted. lle
alovoll that the bill be reed • third VW that day three

METROPOLITAN WATER SUPPLY.
Mr. MLOWATT gave notice that in the ems of the Melee- 1
politan Water Supply (control of by representative body)
Bill it be read a second time on Tuesday neat, if the stand-
ing orders be suspended.
Mr. T. S. BUNCOMBE said he wished to call the atten-
tion of the government to an advertisement which lad that
morning appeared in the Times newspaper, and he vatwspaper,
wished to put a question to the right hon. eretasy for the
Home Department am to the water sandy% the metropolis.
The advertisement to which he alluded etas that of a com-
pany called the Wandle Water and Sewerage Company,
and was in these terms:—" The company wee formed for
the supply of the metropolitan districts south of the Thames
at constant and high service. Capital, 300,0001., in 30,000
shares of Inf. each. Deposit, Ille. W. per share, M. which.
7s. will be returned in the event of an act not being obtained
in the present session of parliament." The trustee was
Joseph homes, Esq., of Blackwell; and the chairman, John
M
Macgregor, Ext., .P.; and the advertisement went on to
state, " The bill for the incorporation of this company has been
reed a second time, and referred to a select committee
of the House of Commons." But the part of the advertise-
ment on which he wished to ask the right honourable
baronet a question, ran as follows It is satisfactory to
announce that there will be no opposition on the part of the
government to the passing of the bill, as its sole object is to
procure an available constant supply of pure water in balk
to parochial, public, or other bodies, and fur distribution to
the public in places where there is no supply." It was
signed " Holloway, secretary." He begged leave
to ask the right hon. gentleman whether the government
had given any assurance in the terms of the announcement
he hail just read.
Sir U. GREY replied that he bad only a few minutes
before seen the advertisement, which had been pointed out
to him by au hon. friend ; and his answer was, that that
advertisement was totally on tutliorised by the government,
and that no communication had taken place between the
government and the company which could justify that an-
nouncement with respect to that bill, if it should come
before the house.
POSTAGE STAMPS.
Lord NAAS, pursuant to n Aire, asked the Secretary to
the Treasury whether the machine for perforating the
sheets of postage labels which wa. furnished by the paten-
tee to the commeeduners of stamps in the year 1819, hail
hem found to answer the purpose for which it was in-
tended. The noble lord said lee had heard that the inven-
tion was a saltzit:ail against forgery.
Mr. C. LEWIS said that the invention to which the
noble lord alluded had been considered, and a certain suns
of money hail been awarded to the patentee, partly in pay-
ment of his expenses awl partly as a reward. But Mr.
Atelier was not v.itistied, and as the commissinnets of inland
',venue had we thau,tht proper to use the machine, it had
remained is the ottice, and 11U use hail been made of it.
But a certain number of perforated sheets of stamps had
been struck, and a part of them had been sent by the in-
ventor litinself to members of tit • noose in the library, and
another part to a postmaster in Bridge-street.
COLONEL ROSE.

Agmths.
Tim Doke of RICIIMOND thought no 'sashimi posed
bed ben shown for throwing the bill out.
After a few wards from the Marquis of Letesnomies, the
siemedenent wu negatived without • divimien; and the
bill
wasrend a third time and
P ItritE*o R.
Lord LYNUIIURST called the attention of thole Wilk
•h;1" to • matter that seriously affected the privatt
their house. It was notorious that • bill bad Imell
ducoel into the other house for • reform in the WO of
Menet ry, one clause in which provided that the pedpill
the courts of equity shoubl ha summoned to assist In th•
leering of appeals in their lordships' ho lie highly op.
proved 0.1 this clause. It walla little Angela, that in writs ei
serer born the courts of common law, their lordships
were ia isted by all the judicial strength of thane
court*, but when they came to sit to hear appeals
ro toted to matters more important in extent and,
invola mg question' of the greatest nicety, they were
obliged to rely on their own unassisted learning. That
Was an ouoineily which he had always been desiroua of
all.-ink r• by the attendance of the equity fudges,
Lela 1.41.1 put their lorl.hipo. in reference to equity ap•
peal., are. Vie mine around a. when they were having writs
of err or lam the court. of common law. In former times
the jwi e• attended were questioned by their lordships
OS quity as well :AS on pointy of law. Their lord-
ship- •it kti••w that formerly the Court of Exchequer had
sr, juriedietion concurring with that of the Court
el a hew- ,y. awl that therefore, when the twelve judges
were Sairarlioneti, four of the:a—thiew belonging to the
Court of Exchequer —couid be consulted net all paints of
eqeea. But tint judiroture had for same years Lein aim-
ing:l.l; end their lordships haol thertiure been lite•
rally without auy el portunity of obtaining as.i-tance
when doubt* arose upon ni..e and intricate point* of equity.
H. was quite sure that tlie wlllition of the learned judges
of lia• merle of equity, upon the hearing of app. would
be roars., 4 with great mt.-faction by the country at large,
and aonat add weight to their luraishipe' decision.. both
eavoseost the suitors and the public. Thus far he concurred
in th. .n,eets of the bill. The question which remained
Ina., 'pro. thin avii,tallee Wa+ to to obtained? tic we, quite
Warr, m I ralice to the principle ho had before statel, it
ought u,. to he obtained through the pravesians of any bill
which origin at, .1 in the other house of parliament. The
bail 1s .to -.aim commun..' a clause te the. effect tint certain
pet eon. should attend the': lordehipa' hone on the hearing
of elope i'.; that they sheend be communed, and glee their
mince and awietance. Could anethiug be more incou-
sie;cat with the known prieile,peo of their lordships' house,
th on a p ..vision of that kind in a hill origination in tin'
ether You.. • ? It related to their lordships' jurisdiction, and
V.': le a ;so r in which it should Ise exercised, and the pereeta
Win .... a:4l as.i.t in tile ezeineu of that jurisdiction.
ll.• aa•..nol venture to elate that thin was a
direct t erasion of the privileges of their lorol.hips'
home. Ile did not wish to dozonatime on a iple,tiOn of
the. Lio.•I; and he therefore proven...al that this matter
shoal i • referral to a committee of privileges of their bird-
ships' Loose. If the committee should report that
it na, an infringer's: nt of the privileges of the
bone., lad that ration shoul.l be confirmed by the
biol., at would endanger the passing of the bill,
he should consider a public misfortune. It
mutat ea that he we. raising a trilling objection upon
• pireo, pulnie quo:Mimi; but one encroaelima:nt brought on
tueotb.•:, and it they suffered that encruacliment on the very
euti.taio •• of their power, they would ol;sregard that which
Lad eleoys been consideriol of the highest impotence by
their p. olivevaoro, and woe even so regarded by the other
louse et parliament. Ile begged, therefore, to more,
"That it be refined to the committee tor privilege*
to •••••r and report what come..., having regard to the
pea ie.• .of this hems ought to be ;mewed fur obtaining
the el, .o.o.inee Oita of the Master of the Rolls, and
other lodge* of the Court of Chancery, upon the hearing
of law .1.," Se.
'lli le /11.1) CHANCELLOR said there could not be any
Maj.-nee. to the motion of the noble and learnt,' bird, and
lie we. end that toe had mole it.
The Itarquie of I..INSDOWNE (who woo very
'ly heard) was underatood to say that the
cleats, ..anaplained of hail heal intro...laced into the bill to
make it Mare intelligible in the other house of parliament ;
and it •as deeirodolo• that it should be on, even it it were
aftereao us omitted, before the bill came to their lordships'
Moue.
1d.r.1 thought that the admiesion, made by
the no;•••• marquis. that this claim, to which objection had
bars toam, bad beau introduced only fur an explanatory
peees.. end with no new to prt,airig it, full, vindicated
the taken by hie noble end learned friend.
All. r a few words from the Duke of ItleilltOND, and
moo as linition from the Marque, of L essoows s,:
law.' ttlittllttllAM said that when the Dowse of Com-
mie, re ',geed a ball from their lordships,' house containing
• • a clans'. Ile y took for granted that it was a breach
of the, osrivileges, and at once referred the matter to a
eel. ci ...mmittee. The proposal for the attendanee, on the
taearr.e d appeal*, of the Vice•Chaneellovinail other equity
15.15... 'god hie entire approval. Ile also thought tint iu
many to re • great advantage would erne• from suminonine
the Angell kedges. Ile regretted that this subjest had nut
been seinabeeed earlier in the madam.
Th. .404i0n WAS then agreed to.
TII.. AND etritt•LAa ESTATES
MA N.IDIRNIKNT 1111.1..

Mr. C. LEWIS, to a question by Mr. tiu-
*aid that noobjectim would he made to the pro-
d:olio.% of the letter of the Foreign-office relating to the
caw of Col. 'tome, or of the Treasury minute by which a
connpeo.ation of 1,8201. for the how of half-pay was 111461 t,
to him while consul-general in Ikyruth.
FINANCIAL. MEASI:ItES.

Sir 13. lIALL wished to know the intentions of the hon.
member for Buckinghamshire in regard to certain resolu-
tions of which he hail nivel. notice.
Mr. DISItAELI said that he could not exactly state the
particular motion he should mak..., because an hon. trend
of his had given notice of an instruction to the committee
on import dune.. Ile would, if possible let the hon, g,utle-
man know to-morrow.

ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION BILL.
The house having gone into thiamine,: on this bill,
The CHAIRMAN said. We shall now proceed to the pre-
sable.
In answer to a question from the CHAI am iet,
Colonel fel BIRORP stated that he did not at present in-
tend beaming forward his anniedmeuts.
Mr. WALPOLE, in risiiig to more an amendment, said
it wan teiwittial that the clause should be so eh ar that nu
ambiguity could be charged to it. This, however, was
not his only, nor his princiaal, reason fur proposing these
alteration.. His chief reason was this—that in his opinion
thee ought to make the bill au effective national protest,
since they had nut made it an effective remedial neeoure.
(Hear, bear.) The bill LA it stood contained a nominal
condemnation of the introduction of the papal brief in the
course of last autumn, and declared that toles derived from
places under the sway of the crown of England in any
part of the United Kingdom, could not be used or
assumed by any party by virtue of the authority
of the croon. 'rho bill was plainly defective, inasmuch 114,
although it condemned a particular brief, it did nut antici-
pate nor in any way pm. eat the repetition of similar act" ;
and, although the bill hail made it penal to assume or use
these territorial titles, they had, since the rejection of the
proposition of the hon. and learned member for Abingdon,
no guarantee that the law would be observed awl en-
forced throughout the country. He begged the com-
mittee to bear in mind that, both before and
subeequent to the reformation, parliament was not
satisfied with simply repelling an aggression by a foreign
potentate on the prerogatives of the crown, and on the
independence of this country, but that on the two remark-
able occasions of the passing of the act of Richert' 11. and
Elizabeth preambles were agreed to, which stated clearly
the constitutional principle on which they proceeded, as-
serted the freedom and independence of this country, and
pointed out the way in which that freedom and indepen-
dence had been assailed, while they declared that such at'
molts could not be submitted to by the Queen or the people
of the. country. (Hear, hear.) The preamble prime:seal Inc
the present bill was not of this character. It was simply a
preamble, pointing to the operative portion of the bill,
without pointing at all to the declaratory clause. In his
opinion it wan abolutely neetuary that some alteration
should be made in the preamble. Ile now proposed, after the
ward " whereas," to introduce the first paragraph of his pro-
posed alterations, which would state plainly and clearly
the constitutional principle on which the legislation on this
subject should hr based. The hon. and learned member
concluded IT moving, in the preamble, after the wad
•• whereas," an line one, page 1. to insert, " this kingdom
is, and has been at all times, so free and independent, that
no foreign prince., prelate, or potentate hall, or ought to
have, any jurisdiction or authority within the same, or
any part themot ; and whereas the bishop of Rome, by a
certain brief, rescript or letters apostolical, purporting
to have been given at Rome ou the 29th day of Sep-
tember, 18. ea, has recently pretended to constitute within
this realm, according to the common rules of
the church of Rome, a hierarchy of bishops named frunasees
and with titles derived from places belonging to the crown
of England ; and whereaa—"
'1 he amendment having been seconded,
Mr. 0. 11. MOORE called the attention of the committee
to the form of oath administered to member, of parliament
before and alter the passing of the act of 1829. The oath
taken by Roman catholic members of the house before the
passing of the act of 1.29 was to the effect that no foreign
prince, prelate, or potentate was entitled to pre.cminence or
authority, ecelesintical or spiritual, within this realm. By
the act of 1829 it was provided that members of that house,
tieing ROMIG catholies, should bo only required to declare
that no foreign prince' prelate, or potentate bath or ought to
have any " temporal or civil jurisdiction" in this realm.
(Rees, hear.) It was therefore very clear that by the act of
18,19 it had been declared that the spiritual pre-eminence of
a foreign potentate should be a moot point. That act had
quite established the feet, that the spiritual pre-eminence of
the Pope should be a reserved point with regard to that
house. Th. hon. and learned member (Mr. Walpole) had
admitted this fact, and hail stated that the compromise and
compact of 1829 had been broken, and, inasmuch as it had
bean broken, he now proposed to repeal it altogether. If
hon. gentlemen were disposed to repeal the act of 1829 let
it be done fairly and without subterfuge—(`bear, hear)—
and not in the specious manner now attempted.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the preamble
carefully and distinctly pointed to the clauses u they
hail been agreed to, They found there the first clause,
being a declaration that the late rescript and all the au-
thority conferred by it was unlawful and void, met by
a recital quite 'adequate in its character. The neat
clause was teamed in the scope and spirit of the act of 1829,
and therefore they found the recital of the act of 1829 in
the preamble, end then they found a general declaration
that the attempt to establish such pretended sees under
colour of anthonty from the see of Rome " is illegal and
void." They had, therefore, everything met by 'a corre-
sponding preamble. He did not see what advantagei were
to be obtained by the adoption of the proposed
altemeAses. By oleptleg them the boon eons-
peel Semis milldts Muelena to sanction • declara-
tion whisk they did test semi them to make in the oath
which they tools at the table, owl this was certainly not •
proper course. The recital rewaskag the rescript of the
Pepe is the hew esemloe's pima was the seam as la
the pereemosae_
_posembleorah the dewlle thr•
poellealsa lo essillldeatria eh
to the 41111M4111 rates of the dumb of Ilemallitt
bishops erssei from seen gel with Wiles derived from
plasm helseglar to the sews of Ealing." His did not
see that How wise entitled to refer to tie common rules of
the absorb beam that was a point on which
they lea se fohnsideas es& wee, bribe, • =Mar of
differing,. Totpeak of the "crows of Inkier loss
rather mama The proper term was the Habit Mega=
of Great Britain and Ireland. He thought it belie to retain
the bill as it now stood.
Mr. BASHES Menthe the remark mole Iythe has.
member (Mr. Kane) ibst=itual of the
rope was a moot perm • very isolyeassa fee
adopting the ameeilmeets pesposeL mehadasa, how-
ever, that the net of 1$ ill rest mho say alarratise la re-
gard to the spirit*
_lower of the Peps la these=
and wee set te do se. He supperemi Oho
of the lea. smi learned member helms it wes same is
consomme with the datmle et Mak&
He hod breed sold WSW, fer the fret deg=
house, that thiligallool pewee et the Pepe eabled It this
country, sal that
sad that the est of lOW had
revived the pewee of the Peps. If they serried
this eassaimat they smell set that mate et met for the
Mere ; ie was ea that poled le amperted It, wad lemon
le helmet if wadi anew Or • MI arm swedes ad
itiMem
ortn. RUSTrl.l2they Moll& pin
aver by the httrostaetiso them weeds, oaf attelia4=
tiro et Mem reightesSdiere te • imenmakese. He ail
they sheaf pia Wore alierailt he en y
tirel ad
fend beet the hem ins ape that the eine ci
the set opoemt IMII wee :C jet law that no foreign
we
prisms hail authority this
realm, wU.ther that eweer spiritual orin tem-
loyal. yet they mil MOM* inlet bid boa

The Thal of l ARLItiLR sorwl that 11; prayers of e..t.
tele I. • &Simi. °weed hi the 1.:1e...0pal and Calittalar E..
taw. hirsagernent Rill, saltine to bo !ward by counsel
Of ',lv bill, shout., he granted. and tense given them to
aey, tq rounal itt tStre the select romunittee.
Mae'. oopoution wos,itlimi to this 11106141, which, after
Miter di.cdrion, was ultimately withdrawn.
IitaiISIR.ATION OE ASSURANCES DILL
In,/ PEI L!. haring moved the mond reading of
that bill,
L sta LYNDIIVRST said Ise would not oppose the
amnion, provided the noble lord consented to withdraw the
aLaw i.i.rh had reference to the deposit of mops.
Ls .I.Nll' DELL consented to accede to the sags...cation
OW.. ad* aria karma! friend.
The tit was turn nuil a second time, and ordered to be
NISI a thud time brmorrow.
111()RLDAOR9 (IRELAND).
laud LIRAUMON f withdrew a bill he had previously
=id en this subject, on the itroand that it had been
atty draw n, and laid a strand lull on the same subject
IS the mote in it. stead, which was read a first time.
The Veterinary Surgeons Exemption Bill palled through

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AMt MT OF ABscONDINO DEBTORS BILL.

1111; 1••11 a.. rreaaamitted and the lUallldeseuts soma to.
ti CATIVE PERILS (SCOTLAND).
lissJ ItIIItESDALE laid an the table a bill for re.pdat-
ki ••lertiou of Scotch repreamteiry pears, which was
load a 1.r4 time.
Th • h adjourned at a quarter to 8 o'clock.

IV it SE OR commoss.—MONDAT, JUNE 21

h..ur• met at fame n'eleek.

PRIVATE UI'BINEM.-

T Itriahton Ketra.sural Cemetery, the Caledonian
Railn branch eatension and Leemaliagow
been, I, 0, and the tihremebary sad Birmingham Iliilway
Bill*, were fal verally read a third time and paired.
LON 110 N (CITY) BEWIIKS BILL.

Do t'.• order of the day for the third reading of the
.here 141,

th; H....VERNET raved the maiesiess of the clause
Ming.ltait city beepitals from the sewer rates, being of
epioin that there exception* of institutions supported be
voluntary contribution ought not to be eeatieueo, and hi
peeposo.l to divide against it.
ALI ..man THOMPSON supported the clause, obeerriug
Oat there bad been no petitions from the ratepayers against
the evceidiou.
. . . .

A shirt disc-num ensued, in which Sir R. moue, Mr.
ITUAIRT WUSITLIT. and Mr. vu supported the
clause. Sir Du LACT EVANS expressed some doubt as to
the propriety of the exemptiou, and ultimately Sir U.
• ithdrew his amendment, on the Amur see that
all the hospitals in Loudon were exempted except those
named in the clause.

PUBLIC BVSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENT._
ILDIONOOR Or Jaws TO PARLIAILMBOT. —By
R. INGLIS, freesegued by the Lori
Newt, by the Wedesatter of the Germ& Amer* of the
Establiehed the Itadware et the Deana As-
sembly of the Yen V 2 widthee, led 4,877 other
venom ia &Saba* sad
Rompareernah Trine 1 aL--1116kily Mi. ROCHE,
Rem the inhabits's% of Dowtmanway, in the sorry of
Orb. main% the la
Poem. Arrantere.—B 13/4013ZET INGLIS, from
tester rid rhabbente of irthrldentheZteolaa ;
ereblidiel and bee eberbee ;
araweeetion et Kroft Pore Clerk Dirges ; inhatet-
este of the treedrin et livered", ; Wridito of the die.
diet perish et IA Pon Church, Maas/arm ; inhabiters
et thr &drift gill:s.llsrles. Hare: ileklartsabl at
the perish of • .la the et St. David's ; in-
habitants of R le the direr of St. David', ;
taltshitans of threars. to the anew of St. David'.; in.
hohitents of Umbria, is drain= et St.Devid'a, against.
NAT lOATION Laws.—lts PLM. from MT'
duets aid shipossess ISsehries. Semplaining of the
eperstion of the e:= law. end he (gaily, with a view
le
anteadent et
itentenet Ifeenh.-74 Mr. SCULLY, boa miller in
Cheret, mad ether piers la Tipperary, praying for a dry
ea the isopertatineximvairtirat Sour.
AN SEWERAGE.
Lad 11111,1140T0)1. in to Sir Be L. Erase, whe
rhea areal querhas to the St. Jure'.
NM that the with roper
rlwriestret4 beta eenterna, and the paler of
bye
had swath weft pliabe. Is and* ray =peat, what he
had bolter ward. t the meths had bra eidered Is the
fart elpeetadun that wellearat well eery eat the lr
wads". end mile the ireal to hewer maw to pelt the
miser. Bat they IheS bees matte b berm mete
then 111.000/., ark Senilieh fly f the Wean Gotta' ,
bra ordered bid heft arent Ile**
may geaeraft thet et the yew ewe
tweedillanlm Sae the mart of the
rgesale te w hirsee i peat pert of the
taboos awl dr weary bail bees mph;
pa* to *Am arm ad pi* Or await.

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dose by the sat of 1829. He believed the
Ramon sathellos would admit that no foreign power had ,
aay jnriellietion that scald be enforced by law in this coon-
trj, _whither testreiel or spiritual, but certainly the Roman
enthellee did Allot to using these words in the oath of en-
; mail Sr. 17C,onpell, when at the bar of that
shreeast="itotheeteemoftitihouneci:wtoorteßytikt
"II
II
.. oaten
111161:if Ut td=l:tat :1 ihkeealmPo.peTra wdt
any
s
they had made toe etliefy the Scruples of the
WWI& gft did sae
Wok se regarded those
who were not Roman calhaoo *l* dist altered the
law, bat at ' the same time it was an alteration of
the law so far as the right of admission to seats in that
lime In ilt: ow
ncatholic, was concerned. And now the
hon. and learned gentleman propelled to introduce these
words, which be could not deny the twee of, that no foreign
power had any jurisdiction within this kingdom. But the
question thereupon occurred. did they mean or did they
not mean any alteration in the act of 18.ffi ? If they did
not mean, as he supposed, say alteration in that act, he
submitted that they would not gain anything by inserting
these words ; and the hon. and learned gentleman who
spoke last would have no satisfact.on in making
an assertion by which Roman catholic, could not
be bound. But he was afraid the insertion of these words
would give rise to a suspicion that they were not satisfied
with the declarations made by the act of 1829, and that
there was some covert intention of altering it. lie did not
suppose that the bon. and learned member for Midhurst had
any such intention, and if he had no such intention, and if
the house had no such intention, it was better not to insert
these words. Re should not go into the preamble gene-
rally, but he did object to the insertion of the words
that the Pope had done this " according to the
common rules of the church of Rime." Whether
the Pope had gone beyond the common rules
of tho church of Rome or not it would be equally ob-
jectionable to us. tpou the whole he thought the words
in the preamble were quite sufficient, and, for the reasons
he had stated, he objected to th-ee words proposed by the
hon. and learned member for Midhurst.
Mr. NAPIER supported the amendment.
Alter a few words from the Attorney-general, Mr. Moore,
and Mr. 11. ()rattan,

The committee then divided—
For the amendment l3l
Against it
Mr. WALI'OLE considered that unless they had some
distinct and affirmative statement they would have no
foundation upon which to base their bill. lie thought the
noble lord would himself we that this would be the easy.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought there was eaough in the
preamble of en explanatory nature.
Mr. WALI'OLE begged to snore that the following be
added to the preamble :—" And also to caustitute in this
realm, contrary to the laws and customs thereof, a hierarchy
of bishops named from sees, and with titles derived from
places within these realms."
Lord J. RUSSELL thought, as the bill stated that cer-
tain persons bad retended to take titles by a certain
authority proposed to be given by the papal brief er
script, it would be sufficiently understood that the purpose
of the brief was to erect a hierarchy. lle coirdikreil the
addition unnecessary, and that the preamble was better
English without it. (Laughter.)
Mr. DISRAELI did not think that they ought to be
obliged to derive the meaning of this act, but that it
ought to be clearly expressed. lle therefore looked un the
amendment as a great and necessary improvement.
The committee disided—
For the addition
Against it
The committee then divided on the question that the
preamble stand part of the bill.
Ayes
Nees
Lord J. RUSSELL proposed to take the consideration of
the report on Friday, and he had no apprehension that they
would not be able to go through the business en that night.
As he was rather anxious to take the committee of supply,
he would fix that for Thursday next.
OATH OF ABJURATION (JEWS) BILL.
On the question that the Speaker leave the chair,
Sir R. INGLIS paid he was opposed to this measure on
principle ; but he had no objections to the details of the bill,
sad should not divide on the present gm-anion.

REPEAL DILL.
Thir bill paned through committee, with roam ♦erbal
alterutions

CIVIL DILLS (IRELAND) SALARIES.
The report on this bill was brought up and received.
CIVIL BILLS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
Mr. lIATCRELL mid that he would postpone the 73rd
and glad clauses relating to tenants at will, and also the
schedules referring to the scale of fees, till Thursday,
Mr. S. CRAWFORD could not allow the present stage
of the bill to pass without protesting against the increased
powers which it gave to landlords iu respect to teumita
at will.
Mr. NAPIER said that the Sand clause gave no new
powers to landlords: it merely made more clear the exist-
ing law.
Mr. ROCHE sail that the 73rd clause gave landlords the
power of ejectment in the Civil Bills Court, where the
tenant was in arrear a year's rent. That was a new power
given to the landlord. (ilcar, kar.) lie must object to
this bit by bit legislation in regard to the relations I,etween
landlords and tenants in Ireland. The whole subject
should be brought 1.),.6.1re the Louse by the government.
The house then went into connuittee, and passed the
clauses, 16.'5 in number, atter some discussion.
'I he Chairman then reported progress, aud obtained leave
to sit again.
The house then resumed.
COLLECTION OF FINES (IRELAND) BILL.
The Collection of Fines (Ireland) Bill was committed
pro forniti and the re-committal ordered for Monday next.
LANDS 'CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION (IRELAND)

The house then went into committee.
On the first and only clause,
Mr. PLUM PT R E said that the omission of the words "on
the true faith of a Christian" would deprive the oath of all
its meaning. Ile considered that the division oa the second
reading had cast a stigma on the bill that would not soon be
forgotten. For the noble lord at the head of the govene•
tarot, with all the appliances at his command, to be able
only to Carry the second reading in a house amounting to
very little short of 400 members by a majority of 23 was a
condemnation of the bill which he trusted would not be
lost sight of. The question was, were they a Christian
legislature ? Ile thought there could be but ono answer to
that question. They were a Christian legislature, and yet
it was proposed by this bill to take by the hand taco who
rejected the very foundation of Christianity. He had never
felt any hostility towards the Jews ; but, on the contrary,
he felt as much desire as any hon. member, and perhaps
more, to bring persons who professed that farm of religion
to better views. He solemnly protested against the bill,
but would take no further step at present in opposition
to it.
Mr. WALPOLE said that, as the law stood, Roman
cathulics were excluded front filling high offices of state,
such as those of Lord Chancellor, First Minister of the
Crown, or Archbishop of Canterbury. Should the bill be-
fore the house pixie the Jews in a situatiou to till those
offices, it would be utterly inconsistent with past legislation
on this subject.
Colonel SIBTHORP expressed his confidence that the
bill would never pass the other house.
Sir It. INGLIS hoped the government would give some
explanation as to the effect of the measure.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that the exclusion of
Roman eatholies from certain offices depended not on reli-
gious but on political grounds. Seeing how strictly they
attended to their religious duties on Saturday, it was not
likely Jews would ever be in a condition to till the office
of Lord Chancellor, or any other high office.
Mr. HUME said he had always thought it persecution to
exclude Jews or any men from political privileges on ac •
count of their religious belief. It was most anomalous
that a Jew might exercise every franchise of an English-
man except g in that house, simply through the opera-
tion of a few words accidentally introduced into an oath.
Mr. NAPIER denied that the words in the oath exclud-
ing Jews were accidentally introduced, but were used
on the assumption that every member of a body aspiring to
rule the state should be a professor of Christianity.
Lord J. RUSSELL said he had heard nut Ion; ago, and
heard with great pleasure, from an hon. member in that
house, that we were accustomed to consider, not belief, not
opinion, out conduct, in the formation of rules fur admission
to office and legislation. That opinion was a very good one ;
and he should he sorry to think that the legislature was
now departing from it. While he thought they were per-
fectly right in doing everything they could to promote the
Christian religion and to spread Chrlatianity over the
globe, he did not think that Christianity would derive any
force from a measure which could in any way be called
civil persecution. (Hear, hear.) It had appeared to him
that to exclude persons from office and from the power of
legislation who were loyal subjects of her Majesty was a
species. of persecution and it was so far incon,istent with
the spirit of Christianity that such exclusion should be kept
up. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. NEWDEGATE said it was not decent or fit that
persons should be invested with political power, and the
power of legislating for the Christian church, who rejected
the very foundation of our common Christianity.
Mr. REYNOLDS said the assertion that the feeling of
the people was against this measure was not capable of
roof • but the contrary was capable of proof. Baron
' Rothschild had been twice elected for the City by a com-
munity of Christians as sincere as any hon. members in
that house.
After a few words from Colonel THOMPSON.
The clause was agreed to, as we. the preamble, and the
house resumed.
The CHAIRMAN reported the bill to the house; and
the third reading was fixed fur Friday next;
Sir R. INGLIS expressing a hope that it might be brought
on at an hour and on a day when it might be fully dis-
clamed.
COURT OF CHANCERY AND JUDICIAL COM-
MITTEE BILL

On the motion of Lord J. ilitmanii, this bill was read a
second time.
REPORT OF COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.—THE
WAR IN ILAFFRAFtIA.
Oa the reties ke the 41 this report,
Mr. li== rid he ball to this report being
armismod siamma Imo strerents which were eel-
WNW to Istient era /Ire Mule in the missy. The
ore was for MASK ea • Art lotelesent of Ail expenses
ILiaz war. Wilistbrat pen leinmeanswent had
W to tie state of Abe dirt eddy; ma be *acted to
dee ere r burdemme ad ank to this county, but to the
`deniers. The was tole applied in aid of a war,
net to the Cape, but 7a the emote district of Neff:aria,
with was gowned, hy a separate oweanselea ;frees the
hassa. If ti= stile country were ben den to day
to be EN earrying on dieweditable wars to
=,,uallSlVSldlik ea us sty to the Wass of the Inha-
ler Idler wail pew a ruinous ow. Ho had leap
whooshed • Was la dm colony. The
war now was west writ sai delswey. To eft of
rob to theapeder, es wee (astonished
ryteldatirgesy awl flir 11. OEM. MU
amid)l/1 the Mein of the dee add he down
the military broads of the Kan, this wiry would be
amend to ea enormous extent. No mitre whet eight
have been the cause of the war—he beibeed It to have
been eggraelea end it en err yent—itio only wing
aro te-Tie don was to pat dew we eeibelie Weed es
the dims H
it was amid dot Oh druid be dose
IMMO dimity. He befall punrunt would mea-
slier their nMiMw of en sidle ihe Caw repre-
sentative nevermoret tilde war was at en lei Ls this
robed= to the delowiline of the WNW be seasseed
ent the Wen pdoo4 Rea the embalms
err,
tg
dee =rfo sada Walt and lined in putting en end
ta war. Were they dinapeleind in the object
they had so nog tougle. be hosed they would
net be as 11/41/ SO IM•pasais with was t
HinWe !mid so wad, it woe oat Ws lanatioa te oppeesmt
eels.
Matisse,. be should dune the war wu net a war
dee missy. bat UM sawed by dr governor, and which
would ad bow taken gees were thins a respossible dec.
' teed nevendeat. He had wowed an itairwhosat
to be added be his vote, to the Abet that " it vie the
riteat that house that the weediest way of tominating
wee by .stredan de-ahoy the werallation
lidendied it by lids ideal" Oise; bear.)

Lord J. RUSSELL said the hon. easillnws_ __ M
edie__ltnir IL HAYES, Sen., the Denliet, a man years
just sat down had spoken on the two pont 111111111 MI established in MAISSI'ILDINGS, St. Martin's-lane, eat
l y
subject, namely, the representative 00001111111 Ons seed As ow ONLY be comeliest at 13, fe.)110-INICAKE.
war that lad exhitad. He (Lord J. Boom Aid oat knew .
esetikadd.eisch to what he had said on former
oecrioss with Fespeet VA's views of her Majesty's govern-
sinst sees subject: The' grant of representative tastitu-
colony—mu, done in this way. Letters patent
were imaged Sven this country, but these letters did not
*Wein anything to the effect that that constitution was to
be immediately pat in force. These letters merely
contained an outline to be filled up at the
Cape ; and when so tilled up, the constitution
was not to be put immediately in force, but was to
be seat back to this country, the ordinances to be consi-
' siderod, and such advice tendered her Majesty as her mi-
Innen might conceive suiting to the welfare of that
law. (Hear, hear.) Now what happened on the occa-
sion of these letters patent t Sir Harry Smith. Instead of
following the nominee system by which to fill the vacant
seats at the council prefer: ed to fill these vacancies by the
elective principle. However, he wu not very fortunate in
the result of the operation; because, taut/war might
have been the motives of the geutletnen alluded to, they
differed so considerably from the majority of the council
that at length Sir H. Smith, considering the differences could
not be recouciled, left the comma, and the majority were then
obliged to consider what was next to be done. It was re-
solved, on the advice of the law officers of the colony, to
cease further proceedings and suspend further details, as it
was evidtut such proceedings could not lead to the result
originally contemplated ; because they could not send to
this country ordinances in such a shape as to be considered
and then sent hack again to be put in force; still less could
they be put in force immediately in the colony without fur-
ther alteration and further deliberatiou. (Ileac, hear.)
He agreed it would be far better that the colony should
have a representative constitution in force. But at pre-
sent he saw great temporary difficulties in putting it into
operation, notwithstanding that they would use their best
judgments 34 to when it should be put in force. (Hear,
The second part of this constitutional question had
not been made very clear to the house by the hon.
member fur Montrose. The real question was the
extension of the frontier, an extension which had
taken place solely fur the parpoic of defending
the inhabitants and settlers of the colony of the Cape.
(Hear, hear.) It was not for the purpose of empire; it was
for no other advantage beyond the defence of the settlers in
the colony. There never was an opinion entertained so
generally in the colony as that the best mode of baf.Ay fur
the colonists, for the protection or their livo, and to ensure
the cultivation of their properties, was the extension of the
frontier, as originally torop,vd by Sir Benjamin D'Crhan.
Having a strung hope and belief that these differences would
be brought to a happy. conclusion, and admitting that these
colonists were entitled to have represeutativo
in-
atitutiom—liccauso such institutions Hied men with
real and 'elf-dependence —ha did expect that
when that representative constitution was established
amongst them, there would he seen a more general
spirit of defence amougst the colonists of the cape,
and a stronger determioation to resist future aggression.
(Bear. hear.) But he thought it a delusion to say, that if
they sent out the constitution all at time, they would not
have the burdens of war to pay. but, notwithstanding the
great losses anti expenses, lie doubted not is the cud the
colony would prove most prosperous. (Hear, hear.)
As there were difikuitiii at present to be got
through, the present vote was sought with a
view to carry the colony through her present difficulties;
and he believed the u,ue was not far distant when they
would agree as to the means of conferring local coustitu-
tional government on the colony. (Hear.)
The vote was then agreed to.
SMITHFIELD lIABBET REMOVAL BILL.
This bill was postponed to to-morrow (this day).
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LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNG 24.

WHILST the Bishop of LONDON is considering
whether the Rev. Dr. MERLE D'AUDIONE is a " nacre
layman ;" and, as such, liable to the three months
imprisonment with hard labour in the House of Cor-
rection, which Mr. A. 13. HOPE has so charitably
suggested should be inflicted on that distinguished
divine, for having preached in an episcopal- chapel
wh
in St. Pancras—ilst our Diocesan ts so engaged,
his attention might, perhaps, be further occupied
with the proceedings of some fully ordained ecclesi-
astics in the district church of St. John the Evange-
list, in the same parish, on the two last Sunday
evenings. So to an account of those proceedings,
as they have reached us, we propose to direct Dr.
BLOMFILLD'S notice ; as affording additional proof,
if any be needed, of the confusion of doctrines, and
almost of tongues, prevailing in a sec whose prelate
has at times " been all things to all inen"—" every-
thin, by turns and nothing long;" and as some
further evidence, too, of the necessity that exists for
episcopacy—the rulers in our Israel—replying to the
question we have so frequently put, " What in these
latter days is the Church of England—and where is
it to be found ?"
As is not unusual in this generation, when never- ' ,
tisements of great bunions to be preached have
nearly shouldered out of newspapers advertisements
of great ploys to be acted, and when placards of ser-
vices in churches adjoin on our walls invitations to
dances at casinos, due notice was lately given of a
series of Sunday evening lectures in the district
church of St. john, Charlotte-street, whereof the
Rev. G. J. DREW is incumbent, and the Rev. THOS.
DALE patron. On Trinity Sunday, the 15th in-
stant, the Rev. F. ROBERTSON, a popular preacher
of Bri.thton, lectured in a strain in which democra-
tic politics were queerly and unpleasantly intermin-
gled with high church pretensions; and on
Sunday last, the Rev. CHAS. KINGSLEY undertook
the duty. On this occasion the rev. gentleman took
for the subject of his discourse the whole of the Pith
chapter of St. Luke's Gospel ; and the burthen of
the lessons he extracted thence were " Liberty,
Equality, and Brotherhood;" that being the fermi&
which ho and his friends have adopted wherewith
to enforce and expound the revolutionary nonsense
which they term Christian socialism; and most vehe-
mently and lengthily, it is stated, did this sufficiently
ordained ecclesiastic enforce these vague, misty,
absurd, and mischievous principles and schemes of
communism which lie and Mr. M %PRICE, of King's
College, and their weak and silly followers affect to
discover in revelation, and seek to apply to existing
society. An hour's explanation of this new Chris-
tianity not only astonished, but wearied the congre-
gation : and, as the blessing drew on, the great
majority were only too happy to be released from the
painful and irreverent infliction.
Ere, however, Mr. KINGSLEY had time to proceed
so far, Mr. Dam, the incumbent, hastily and eagerly
proceeded from the communion table to the reading
desk, and there lifted up his hands to arrest any
benediction from the lecturer. Nor was lie
' content with this; but, addressing the con-
gregation, told them that, as their minister, he
I was bound to warn them the gospel had not been
preached in the discourse
,just delivered; that lie
protested against the sentiments that had been
uttered in his pulpit ; and warned them to dismiss
the instruction and chartism they had heard from
their minds; and then, the two regularly ordained
clergymen having taken a defiant look at each other,
one down from the pulpit the other up from the read-
ing-desk, the congregation were, in disgust and amaze-
ment, sent away to their homes ; there to digest
what they had heard of " the Voice of the Church to
the Labouring Classes ;" that being the theme on
which Mr. KINGSLEY, as well as Mr. ROBERTSON,
had poured forth.
Such, we are assured, was the scene that occurred
on Sunday evening in this church: on the very same
evening in Stepney church there was another.disere-
ditable and uproarious collision between two clergy-
men,
the high church incumbent refusing to allow
the low church evening lecturer to preach; and it is
not many months since the church of St. Buruabas
was weekly disgraced by tumults; and it is notorious
that similar disorders have been apprehended in
other churches of the metropolis.
These scandalous occurrences are not creditable to
the episcopate of Dr. BLOMEIELD ; nor are they at
all calculated to recompose the differences that are
tearing to pieces the very vitals of the Church of
England. But they ought not to be matter of sur-
seu, however much they must be the subject of
• st. For when a bishop has so ruled his diocese
governed his clergy, as to have deprived himself
of all moral respect and influence : when he has
himself boxed the compass of ecclesiastical opi-
nions ; and when no one knows what he
thinks or will do on any point, it is natural
that his clergy should be disorderly. and an-
tagonistic, irregular and audacious; it is natural
that in one church we should have Itomanism
taught, in another Presbyterianism ; and that, to
crown the whole, and to make confusion worse
confounded, chartism should at last raise its voice
in a pulpit. For it is to be remarked, that in those
dioceses where there is a prelate whose views
are fully known, whose consistency is recognised,
whose influence is consequently great, and whose
example is a law to his clergy, in conduct at least ;
there, no such end scenes as these take place. They
are reserved for London and Exeter.
No wonder with such exhibitions to be appre-
hended therein, the churches of St. Pancras are
indifferently filled; that, with church accommo-
dation for 30,000 people, there are more seats
in the parochial places of worship unlet than
are let; and that its present vicar cannot get on
amicably or pleasantly with the district clergy.
Yet on go the Bishop and its non-resident
vicar, asking for money to build new churches, and
begging from door to door for voluntary church
rates to pay off old debts, as if the success of the
church had therein far exceeded Its existing means.
Whereas, the truth is, that this enormous parish is
going backward, notwithstanding the great suing the
church has raised in and levied on it. And the rea-
son is obvious, though neither bishop nor vicar
will see it. It lies in the " inflexible
determination" of the vicar not to divide and
break up a parish with a population of 170,000
souls, but to hand it and them, and its 2,0001. a year,
down to his successors. The theory of district
churches in St. Pancras subordinate to and under
the rule and in the patronage of the vicar (he has
already thirteen in his gift) has broken down ; it
won't work. What is wanted are new parishes for
ecclesiasticalurposes quite independent of the vicar ;
la which each incumbent shall act on his own
responsibility ; shall be uninterfered with by, any
Gas except his bishop ; carry out his own news;
=itMead his own charities ; have the care
teontrol of his own church ; and be the
imatre of his own system, and not, as at present, a
natiliteltalisuminabad enough to DasALEk educParetedtge, tiermpegretert,
mad accomplished gentlemen to work and sieve in
firipasdsinlissith7farPabretealhthiswbuh!inritad-dirnai ttioe7toerraiksreacanddeutirfreeestiemolyn
wasmand in mercantile establishments ; that, •we
say, is bad enough ;
all liable and obnoxious to the control, guidance, in-
terference, and direction of the only highly-paid
eisrgyman in the parish, is td put them into a ption
liit must be intolerable to them as gentlemen, that
derives them of self-respect, that reduces them to
a set of subordinate functionaries, and that must
tßminish that personal influence which is the best
soistence to their spiritual success. Hence in St.
Priem strife and bitterness prevail where friendly
es operation ought to rule ; and all this is well known
to the Bishop of LONDON ; but busy as he sometimes
Is *where, the Vicar of St. Pancras is one of those
Amp with whom he never interferes. A priest