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metruf ellentemlebusiness would continue to carry on a
braidem r ',Web 'they alleged was so unprofitable.
(Hcme hear.) I • need not detain the house long with
reepoikalve propesitien that the general commerce of the
. coingefhas. benefited by the alteration of the fifferigatipie i
•• %he eight hen gentleman does not deny this; lill
sysis that while the consumer has benefited, and
I generally may have increased, the British ship.
at has suffered. I will state the increase in the
of British and foreign ships, entered in,
outwards, during the last three years.
total tonnage entered inwards was 10,600,00 k,
A 1819, the total tonnage inwards and outwards,
a 600,000 tons ; and in 1,8.50 the total
trustees ? ----- - ---
Mr. GOULBURN was really unable to 111111,11, whether &Miss . ~,,1d,.. was goi .- _ - _...ered inwarls and outwarla was 12,020,000 to:7111S
on. lii Liver the amount an increase in the last year's tonnage over 1848 of 1,300,
every he that was brought to the swim erassat. if Debi* *wards had Mielt*d in 1860 tons, and over 1849 of 679,000 tons. But we are told that the
Hat tbh he knew, in making the calculatioa girths income 11,118 MaiT,rera the foreign had increased by 214,000 increase has been produced at the expense of our own ship.
of the see property of that deteriptioa ought to be included. ben TM Register et Trend's showed the number of class ping. That assertion, I believe, nets almost en
A vends tegistered In 1 49, was 5,713 ; in 1850 it was the trifling diminution of the employment of eh=
(Hear, Isear.e
Sr B. HALL-Tes, it ought ; it might. 6.111 k sad in 18.51, it had dwindled down to 6,673,
says nage at the year 1850 as compared with the year 1849. The
Lard J..
'RUSSELL•eaIC in reference to a statement end la ell ether classes of ships • similar reduction had right hon. gentleman that we have fostered forefeet
*MU bl in that hems an to the rams paid by the
ertakieiees. It had bees said that our exports had in- shipping, at our own expense, and, above all, fie says wit
York, as ate maid to be due BM= to the under the new sieges of commercial policy ; but be have encouraged the shipping of the United States.
embebegssi anmbefesses, he was samewhat isearroot, Ss had rotweva so prove that mime the adoption of that system What will the right honourable gentleman say, if
'impoliagrattills iliinTlisisterr,vhisli he big reseived = bra. gentlemes es the other ode attributed am- it form out that . there has it a corresponding
have that meet ree. relate, ma whisk he would mad Mile Inds sad incramed itaports, our exports had in. decrease in the United States ports of United State
'boilo-(kaer) ;-- eraelgil at • bee rate then banns Übe years immediately vessels; and that they, as well as we, while they have In.
Illaisetheepe, York, July 14, lesl. palmate., win a clarinet pegs, pramiled. He would creased the general tonnage, have experienced a positive
hb bed -I** *4 Ala meemel gem lbe mekr be ma• lobelia amemies of Ada" sad deelared values for six decrease in the national tonnage ? (Hear, hear.) The
tali. ...Mom' 4,_ ~... __,_••.,...rfki5,...Y =1"" •141•"_,,Pel lig inhale if her years each, tram len le 1619, which would increase which took place in the year 1850 in the oat-
-7.1 useigeolw"... ... .--osammai•vrr 7;ig....-inasiv."l 1.1.0"1""6.1;47--0., whiNs____ Merin of incipiwi free erode, from 1842 to ward British tonnage was an increase of 198,000 tens;
.aad
asi lOW alall Awkpball of parent bee bade, from 184.5 to 1849. the decrease in the inward tonnage, on which the right
h=ayft"eee said 111 teepee
t alel° liredilleo=terTtles The MEW If the ISM wawa of the exports for the first bon• gentleman greatly dwelt, was 01 311,000 tons, makuqg
,i, his -.mind es weed . gm. Hu owl flooo km gni to 18911„ was 80,614,0001. ; from '29 to a balance of decrease. as to British shipping, of 113 tons.
Maw amp Wesewswedn if tmeleteN _wed m ell eetrafa._ ; ikons ,33 to 87, rf849,000L ;from '37 to 11, Now, I must remark that no one who considers the citrate'.
V9B, <lid
•rmi 9.11a.11 has tit P"' " ""••• hms1841to1846,1111,176,0001.; and from 1846 to stances of trade will be surprised at the decrease in the
Whom as sew awe by ter ewer ta easel that Ws The average_ of the declared value for tonnage entered inwards. I contend that the ships which
Immo debt WNW be 10.111.1. per exam. Its I been
idde .ed, seelehee ben, Thu we wpm ken she emewing :Ad rens was 39,1160,000 f. ; for the second 4 years, have left this country in former instances, returning home
bpainyw als hen
Beale Suet, welsh of nessrate
Ws rtes I,lMillfiricesselmmellesofle per cent.; the third 4 years in ballast, have under the present regulations found pro.
Marti how the death et tbe Ws Neb. Oa a2l per cent. ;the fourth 4 years fitable employment elsewhere; and, if that be so, it
te lie 814 if Dessesbrie, IMO. BM I sm
.eiteesnale gmikignowsly per asst.; the fith4years, 54,594,00 W., or will, I think, be sufficient to account for that di-
m,me"'lllo 11". Mr. este, lie% 18... .' = MEL ; the Let period of 4 years, ending 1849, minution on which so much stress has been laid.
lle owe leek 17,1411.;i11ees I GAIL Weal, 3 ,er 31 per ant. This was a rate of improvement (Hear, hear.) It will, lam sure, be some consolation to
hided*** meant I eave leek lOW alms, teem Dein*,Mgf
W awn easeereety en theselem 1,1013,, dee awaited tow amdietably We than in either of the periods of 4 years the right hon. gentleman to know that I have in mY Poe'
Mettle meld have 10311. Had bassere, ado only the warns' sew what was called protection. (Hear, hear.) session returns on this point for the last six menthe, the
la Ms three years, 1 Mould have Mrs eesonienenerseeele; He had also taken en average divided into periods' of nine return for the last month not being yet on the table, and
belit 1 **Pad 8.7391-eamle .., U letses_see" °*°,o,_9o_7,,the,2'l*° non during tbs time of protection, from 1824 to 1833 and that these prove that we are fast bringing up lee way in
es,'.6*Leee e.„..”' eafteMire„„„e.'.' "eenteree,,e••""eateeeseials• eee"'"'''''neeesew It Ise the nine years of free trade, hich showed an increase this respect. I hold in my hand an account of the
.;.--167-,..- •,---....,,,-- ben- -•-eneserea-"'eeeete leaenesemee- a ht the ax roof from 30 to 40 per cent. in the first period, shipping, exclusive of ships in ballast, for the
--neseee. ,lye addsaverbmi-bene-rusiarkr-1.471:1 sly iiiiiiii, and during the free trade of 20 per rant. only.
which,A he last six months, ending 6th July, of the present year. The
MA he male hesehmisemilis. I have Newest said, that that took away entirely the argument ich en- tonnage of British ships entered inwards in the six months
fees eselelehleal ellowlhollatto BY twOlt.Bit BB BY demand to establish the superiority of one system over of 1830 was 1,600,000 tons. Tho tonnage of British ships
BBB= dash to 1,4t,i 4oßt ""aill"" wmf_n_.,al" /1.12 the other, because there was a still greater rate of augmen- entered inwards in the six montht of 18.51 wa51,700,000 tons.
Is iliMbleanall ,10-• " tha MeV im°•••= '• tation deluder the former system, and they had no right to (Hear, hear.) The tonnage of British ships cleared out-
*, en er Tab braise wen* Wesel be sewed, wed say
mom. ~b,,,,,, k ~., ms, sissy b, tb,,..„,imbei& ede, draw the opposite conclusion. He could not leave the sub• wards in the six months of 1850 was 1,979,000 tons; and in
Miballaliffl. In:Litt ited. peer meant, T. Mem. ject without adverting to the difference between the official the six months of 1831, the tonnage cleared outwards was
The Lod Mee and the real mdse. In the first period of the four years to 2,090,000 tons. (Ikar, hear.)
THE CASE OP HR. SALOMONS. which he bad adverted, the official value exceeded the de- Mr. HERRIES-Have you got the returns of the foreign
Sir B. HALL said he proposed to present a petition to- clued value by 33 per rant., in the second period by 70 ships ?
morrow (this) evening from die electors of the borough of per cent., is the third period by 68 ;per cent., and in the Mr. LABOUCIIERE-I have also a return of the foreign
Greenwich, and he now bagged to give notice that it was fourth period by 92 per cent., showing that the declared ships for the same period. There were entered outwards in
his intention, with the permbdon of the house, to move value, as compared with the official value, had been rapidly the six months of 1850, 821,000 foreign tons; and in
that that petition he printed with the votes, in order that it increasing. -The effect of the altered system in the extent the six months of 1841, 961,600 foreign tons.
might be in the hands of hon. gentlemen by Saturday. lie of external trade had not been beneficial but injurious to There were entered inwards in the six months
hoped, therefore, the noble lord (Lord John Russell) would this country in comparison with the employment of foreign of 1850 700,63 l foreign tons; and in the six months
postpone discussion on the subject until. Monday, when it shipping. There were fewer British ships and fewer British of 1851, 1,007,000 foreign tons. [So we took the latter
was his (Sir B. Hall's) intention to move an amendment to seamen employed and more foreign ships and seamen em- figures of the right hon. gentleman, but they were stated
the noble lord's resolution-that the petitioners be heard by ployed. The shipping interest came to him to complain very confusedly. ] I will now prove to the house that
' counsel at the bar of that house. that it was held out to them by one of the clauses of the there has been the same decrease in the tonnage of United
Lord .1. RUSSELL was understood to acquiesce. bill, that other nations would be induced on far to adopt States vessels in United States ports which has occurred in
SALMON FISHERIES (SCOTLAND). our system as to afford to them an opportunity of competing our ports with regard to our own vessels. I take the facts
On the motion of Mr. Boevinu a this bill was discharged. with their rivals; and that by enacting some other stringent from the trade and navigation accounts of the United States
THE PASSPORT SYSTEM. measure, they would induce foreign ships to meet us on the for the year ending the sth of June, 1850. There were
Mr. C. LEWIS, in answer to Mr. Meeetxmos, said the same ground. They complained that nothing of this kind entered inwards of United States vessels in 1849, 2,763,000
directors of the South Eastern Railway Company had had been done. Different methods of effecting the object tons, and In 18.10, 2,632,000 tons, being a falling-oil of
made an application to the Board of Customs that the goods were expressed to the house. The government having pro- 100,000 tons, In foreign ships entering the United States
of passengers arriving from France should be forwarded to posed their dame, it was objected to. The effect of this ports there has been an increase. In 1819 them entered
London, and examined at the terminus. The Commis- suggestion was to admonish the government that the better of foreign vessels inwards 1,675,000 tons, and in isao
sinners of Customs hail reported that fact to the Treasury; course would have been not to give up until they had there catered of the same vessels 1,728,000 tuns. The same
and the Treasury had referred it back to the Board of Cue- ascertained from other nations whether they were willing cause explains the decrease in the national and the increase
toms, for further information as to whether it was desired to make a like concession. In the other house of parliament in the foreign tonnage as respects both the United States
by the public, as well as by these railway directors, that a more formal proposition was made for the alteration of and the United Kingdom ; that cause being that the vessels
such facility should be given, and what the probable the clause. It was there suggested by Lord Stanley that of both nations have been profitably and fully employed
expense of affording such facility might be. They also if it should appear to her Majesty that any foreign country elsewhere. (Hear, hear.) I have also the clearances out•
wished to know, if such facilities were given Folkestone was willing be concede to this country the like privileges or ward from the United States in the same years. Of United
and Dover, why they should not be extended to other ports ? anythblequivelent, then her Majesty might take steps to Stites ships there cleared outwards in 1819, 2,768,000 tons;
REGISTRATION ASSURANCE BILL. navigation laws. It was a great pity that they and in 1830, '2,573,000 ; being a decrease of 1145,000 tuna.
In reply to Mr. MULLINGA, as to whether it was the in- :rain°, take that course, and then they would Of foreign ships there cleared outwards in 1619. 1,710,000
tention of the noble lord at the head of her Majesty's go• be much better than they were now. Addressing himself tons; and in 1850, 1,754,000 tons ; being an increase of
ettrament to proc ed with this bill in the present session, acre immediately to the object of his motion, Mr. Herrin foreign tonnage in the ports of the United States of 45,000
Lord J. RUSSELL said that, as he had promised to state said, it had been held out to our shipowners that other tons. These tigurra will, I hope, diminish the alarm felt by
as this day what course he would take, he would then do so. nation, would be induced, and, if necessary, compelled, BO the right hon. gentleman as to the competition of United
lie had been anxious to proceed with the bill, which was ter to adopt our system as would admit of their fairly corn- Statesthips with our ships. United States ships may have
me of great importance, and which proceeded on the prin. peeing with foreigners in the foreign trade, and thereby crowded into our port. ; but I think it is evident that our
siple recommended by the very highest authorities in this obtaining an equivalent; but nothing of this kind had been own ships have returned the visit. If this is the case, I
snotty. Ile found it would not alone he necessary to take done ; other nations, instead of imitating our example, were ask who have been the gainers by these alterations in our
a heavy debate on the second reading of the bill, but subse- profiting by our folly. Among many other caste he pointed navigation laws ? I do not say that the, Ration hasgained
quently to refer it to a select committee,which would occupy oat the extent to which the L nited States in particular had at the expense of other nations. Ido not say that England
• great deal of time. Under these circumstances, and the benefited by our change of system. lie complained that has gained at the expense of America, or that America ha.;
lateness of the session, he felt rather reluctant to press the they had abandoned the pledges given to British ship- gained at the expense of England. I say that we have gained
Wt. (Hear.) Ile attached great importance to the bill ; owners. When it was said that there was a diminution of greatly; but I say also that the general commerce of the
, ' bet, under the circumstances, he then begged to give notioe British shipping in our own ports, it was stated in answer world has grown and expanded in consequence of the removal
that he would move to-murrow (this day) that it be read a this cannot be true, it cannot be that the mercantile ship- of those absurd restrictions which were profitable to no
second time that de y three months. (Hear.) ping is declining ; but there were people who were giving nation. (Cheers.) There is another revere to which I
EMIGRATION ADVANCES. - DISTRESSED Rule to this statement. He had presented a petition to must refer -the return, namely, of the Sound dues,
DISTRICTS, the house, and to it were appended the names of Dunbar the character of which is usually considered a oath-
Mr. GLADSTONE wished to know if it were the ink's- ad Lindsay.e The name of Wigram was not there, but he factory test with regard to our mercantile navy en-
theth! Sound
wtthroe dues
yearsf rom
more 1820 to
lien of the hon. gentleman this Under Secretary for the was greatly deceived if Mr. Wigram had not corn- gaged in the Baltic trade. I hold in my band a
Colonies to proceed with this bill to-hight, seeing that it migrated to the government his opinion as to the effect
return of
Britian 18
shipsin el
ushiavvee
would be very late before it could be introduced ? of the alteration in the law being prejudicial to the I find that in
Lord J. RUSSELL said his hon. friend was anxious to skipping interest. One of the subjects of which the peti• been employed in the Baltic than were employed in that
islldma the the discussion on which could be taken timers especially complained, was the condition imposed trade at any former period. It has been said repeatedly
es ?pen them to man their ships with British seamen. You that British ships could n compete with the ships of the
ra.MITON would not object to taking the dis- unposed upon them an onerous condition, which rendered it Baltic powers in the short voyages ; and it will, perhaps,
temeksMer of the lateneas of the hour. almost impossible that they should fairly compete with the remove considerable anxiety to find that as yet no harm has
The CELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought haseigner. He asked them to consider whether they could been done. I find that in 1832 (the first year when the
it would be advantageous if hon. gentlemen allowed the in justice to their own principles persist in this compulsory proportion was made out) the proportion of British ships
bill to be introduced, and discussed on tee second reading. obligation on the British shipowners. They talked of going to other ships passing the Sound was 324 out of 1,000 ;of
' Mr. GLADSTONE was understood to assent. to the cheapest market, but why not allow the shipowner to a tonnage of 1,237,000 tons. During the last three years,
IRISH BILLS. go to the cheapest market ? Let the British shipowner be the number of British ships passing the Sound has been
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply allowed to go to tbe cheapest market for sailing and manning this : -In 1848, out of IMO, 438 were British; in 1849,
to Colonel Dame, said be hoped to come to some arrange his ships. We had given our rivals a footing in our trade ; 398 were British ; and in 1850, 391 were British ; the ton.
ment by which the more important of the bills connected we had submitted to be fairly outwitted ;we had committed nage of those three years being:-In 1848, 1,137,000 tons ;
with I reland might he proceeded with. ourselves and placed ourselves in a position of extreme die- in 1849, 1,183,000 tons ; and iu 18:50, 999,000 tons. In the
EMIGRATION ADVANCES (SCOTLAND) BILL, advantage. The right hon. gentleman concluded by ex- last year there has therefore been a diminution in the tun-
Mr. J. STUART expressed a hope that the bid for autho- pressing an earnest hope that his motion might be allowed nage of British vessels paying the Sound dues; but there
rising advance's to promote eosigratioe fur the relief of the to pain_ has been little diminution in the proportion of British
distressed denier's in Scotland would be proceeded with. Mr. LABOUCHERE could not complain that this im- ships ; and as to the diminution ei tonnage, it will be ac-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Admitted portant subject had been bought forwr rd, and thought counted for by the alterations with regard to the corn trade
that the measure was mach required, and hoped to be able that it wad quite right that the house should take into con- in the Baltic. (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman
to carry it through. siderationthecondition of the shipping interest. For himself, his told us that the Americans are driving us out
CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL. he would never have been a party to measures which he out of the East India trade, and that in fact our trade in
On the mods that this bill be read a second time, thought could have a tendency, while promoting the in- the Indian and Chinese seas is being destroyed altogether.
Mr. HILEALES rose to move the amendment of which he term*, of trade, to injure the searing and shipowning Now I hold in my hand an account furnished by the East
bad given node*, that an humble address be presented to classes. There was, however, a great contrast between India and China Association of the tonnage of British ship.
bar Majesty, praying that she will be graciously pleased to the desponding language of the shipping interest and its entered and cleared at ports within the limits of the com•
direct the proper steps to he taken for :giving effect to those energetic conduct-the voice was the effeminate voice pany's charter during the last three years. In 1848 there
provisions of the act 12 it 13 Vie., e. 29 (ter the repeal of of Jacob, but the hand was the vigorous hand of were entered 387,000 tons, and cleared 453,000 tons. In
the Navigation Laws), whereby bee Majesty is empowered Esau. Mr. Labouchere then went on to say: The 1849 there were entered 406,000 tons, and cleared 322,000
to adopt towards any foreign country. in which a preference right hon. gentleman refers to the complaints and the peti. tons. In 1850 there were entered 442,000 tons, and there were
is given, directly or indirectly, to allitaal vessels over Bri- Sons of such men as Messrs. Ingram, Lindsay, and Dunbar, cleared 662,000 tone, showing an inereiee of 34,000 tons in-
tieli vrawle, such easaintea WI shay a to her and he says, " Surely they understand their own trade wards, and 109,000 outwards since 1843, or nearly 25 per cent.
Majesty justly to eimaterrail the iYadvantages to better than you can do; and when they say that they are (Hear, hear,) :This evidences that so far are we from being
which British trade nil nadgalba is en 's4aa• ad distressed and that their distress is in conseituence of par- driven out of this trade, we are increasing in it. (Hear,
On the 28th ee Ann he had peepettei a gets titular laws you ought at once to acquiesce in their hear.) I now come to a most important point in thus dis-
war.
deem eh siss depeemee et /mime hee opinion." I confess that lam surprised at such a suggee. cession, a point which the right hon. gentleman has scarcely
deo am the ge e lion ceming, of all men, from the right hon.
_gentleman. touched, but which must not be overlooked. I have to
gyp liegh Milan. , The right bee. gentleman has often boasted with natural call attention to those vast new trades. which have now for
auk ma who • met (yd pride, that be was the colleague and the coadjutor the nest time been opened_ up to Brinell shipping. I am
elms aggiasie in'en the - the of Mr. Haidelea in great measures of mercantile reform in certainly not in a condition to lay bekre the house any
aka mai a pleS an sty meet. 1826, whoa the legielaturf struck the first blow at that syse complete statistics bearing upon this point. I wish I
sitrmg mega gee the yaws bed fm. teeofpeeemeiesossier the fancied accent,' of which the could, for I am satisfied they would be most sans-
god wee sem Se you be mete tut the British shepownere had to far existed. At that time, I re- factory. I can only produce specimens lof the results;
sehlegateaseelleely heipmeeetettemettedelhieheireteet, asswaber. there were plenty of petitions, there were public but such figures as I have will attest adequately the
but as a ssinsl guano, hue be Wye, owner °n essedesa nod great complaints from the shipowners of the enormous benefits conferred upon British vessels by thew new
with the lead wer of Great Britain. Meer.) The weerthe gevamment was taking. And these very cam- trades. I have from the United States a prettycorrect account
petitianne .std of the diminutios a the rata Pleb& have foe on cesselesely to the present day, when on this subject, and I sin the more willing to quote because
of freislgh,r be falling off in the sagleenunt for • new km ben been starlet (Hear, hear.) It was in vain the right hon. gentleman's jealousy of foreign competition
Britishdeg lb had been haralliad‘illialli recount of that the eggege of our shipping increased by hundreds of is chiefly directed against the United States-no doubt our
the a rate of freight from mein peels te this thous." Veal merchant railcars were multiplied, and that most formidable rival in all the fields of commerce. (Hear.)
country, aviy the five years be raped of the the fresh NOM Wrested is ship-building went on yearly. In the first six months of 1850, 213 British ships entered
navigation laws, via., from 1 is Maas Ms of Not all ef away but sleep portion of the shipowners, con- the ports of the United States from these countries, which
freight from the same port. is 1360 and end he found tinued is fwprttheir tale of distress, and to attribute all they would not have been able to do but for the alterations
that the reduction had been not less than 30 per cent, their alleged salehrtunes to the measures of Mr. Husiesson. in the navigation laws. Thus, in the first half-year
A correspondent at China stated that American ships The house ishilitiliar with the evidence given before the of 1850, an amount of British tonnage entered United
were loading there at 40s. • ton for Liverpool, and committees operated by both houses to consider the nevi- States ports from third countries more than corresponding
from Hong-Kong at 424. ; and the letter containing this genes laws; and I will contrast the predictions then put with the entire decrease that year of British tonnage In our
information added, that so long as American vessels forth by some of the shipowners, with the results which own ports. (Hear, hear) The British consul at New York
coining there from San Francisco were enabled on their have taken place. As regarded the period since the change, stated that in the port of New York 38,000 tons of British
return voyage to take cargoes from China and bailie to it is too short for an elaborate contract; but in other shipping bad entered in 1850 that port entirely from third
England, there was nu chance of a remunerative trade for periods there are striking contrasts. The first paper to countries. The British consul at Philadelphia stated that
Itritieti ships from these ports. They had been told that which I will refer is a document of the most authentic of 11l British ships entering that port in 1850, 18 came
British capital, British industry, and British energy would character, being a report of the Shipowners' Society, a from third countries; and that in the first four months of
enable the British shipowner to secure the greater part of society with which the hon. member for Scarborough (Mr. 1851, 16 brought cargoes from foreign ports. He adds that
the carrying trade of the world, in spite of the numerous G. F. Young), whose presence in the house on this occasion "vessels from British America, after disposing of their
advantages his foreign rival possessed. But this corre, is most timely-(" hear, hear," and laughter)-is, I be- cargoes in the West In lies, which generally re-
spondence showed how fallacious that bop° was, and lieve, connected. The hon. member for Scarborough differs turned in ballast, now bring to this country sugar
that the American was fast beating us out of with the right hon. gentleman so far as that the hon. mem- and molasses, returning home with cargoes of breadstulEs."
the market. The petitioners also complained of the falling herby no means approves of the measures of Mr. Huskisson : Here, then, is evidence of considerable benefit having been
I off of employment fur their ships, vent on the corn_ but I think that the hon. gentleman will not claim for the conferred by these alterations on our North American ado-
petition of foreign shipping. In everybranch of British society of which he is shales= the ;character of prophets. nice. (Hear, hear.) I might quote reports to the same
commerce our own shipping Wall being driven from the The document from which I shall two is the report of the effect frem Hong-Kong and from Australia • and I might
market, and foreign shipping taking its place. In our own, General Shipowser.' Society IN the year 1833: instance the benefit derived by this countryin our inter-
as well as in foreign ports, foreign shipping had aug. Tar keg *salami mad seal eakidag dogramlcat et the Maga, tas course with France in respect to the power of sending as-
mented, while British shipping had diminished. He had a Mese We weal wedeetisa ese emit agerwatlea et distress awned sorted cargoes in steamers. I must say a word or two
statement of the British and foreign shipping respectively V sesehrera_ diesmeM ear weleatheepononow ater 7 about California. Had it not been for the repeal of our
emloyed in the foreign trade from 1842 to ROO, extracted "",,e`,••"""lhieee, ..2""mmeeeee „„eee'l al
as.eeemee°ll**l,____,...__, wish Navigation Laws our interests would have been serious)
front the annual amounts Furnished by government ; and -ma-Um 17 ,6671.7-.... ." ''''
"'w"."'"'".... ...........rwhit.....„ sad injured in the Californian trade. I do not mean eimply
Rum this it appeared that from 184.. to 1849 (that mesa Mile eases' ft thee seavielths, widpelfe"'"' son- s with regard to the direct trade with California! though
was previous to the repeal of the navigation ealaweloa et S 6 lemma the emberramessa *mei aid ruin 1 that is of immense impertance. In that trade there
laws) there had been an almost invariable annual A res *We alirswasit, may are be nas ewel Inesstramemas was a great demand for British goods; and there were large
increase in the amount of British tonnage, both e eitiem. . stocks of British goods in the ports nearest to California •
inwards and outwards. In 1848 there had been a slight de- Nothing can be more melancholy as a prediction than . and these goods shipped to San Francisco would not have
cline inwards, but there bad been a decrease in that year this. Bet look at the results. At the time this report was been admitted had the old navigation regulations remained
also of the foreign tonnage ; but iu 1830 there had been published in 1833, the British registered ships cemented of in force, whereby Ivey considerable loss would have accn"
• &creme of the tonnage inwards of 184,000 tons from 24,000 ships of 2,600,000 tons. In 1860 the British re. ' mulcted to the British merchant and manufacturer. (H
I the average of the previous yeara, and outwards there had gistered ships were 34,000, their tonnage being 4,233,000, hear.) Again, the right hon. gentleman may not beaware
also been a considerable falling off from the average of This is an increase of more than a million and a half of ; that a great trade has sprang up between our Australian
the years he had named. This was the result as to tandem the time when the shipownerstold dee country that colonies and Western America • and • San Francisco
English ships calmed in the foreign trade ; he would theirs was a doomed and ruined trade, (Hear, hear.) - The . paper, the Alta California, sated, some time ago,
saw take the foreign ships for the same years. He found number of registered seamen of the Lnited Kingdom in that within a single month eighteen ships had
that while British shipping had decreased by 184,000 tons, 1830 was 154,000; in 1850 the number was 22.5,000(Hear, i arrived from Australia with cargo at San Freacisce,
gamin shipping had increased from 2,03),000 to 2,400,000 hear.) So much for the prediction, of the Shipowners' Against these facts will the house set such meagre state-
.-this was inwards. (Hear. hear.) Outwards the increase Society. (Hear.) At that time, too, Alderman W.a- eh , meats as that of the right hon. gentleman who rests his
that •
in
of the foreign shipping hail been 363,000 tons; the total a consistent politician, but not, I think, a high authority on ' whole case on the slight decrease in the entries lB5O ,
behnice inward and outward being against England mercantile subjects, presented petitions from shipowners' (Hear, hear.) The right hon. gentleman maintains
48.000 team. He would now take the averageof the three complaining, in the same way as the right hon. gentleman great decrease has taken place in the rate of f
yeses preeedinulBso. and compare the diminution of that has complained to-night, of ruin and destruction, The • admit that ; but if the right hon. gentlemanwillreloolgkin:Seki,
ray with it. The average of the three years preceding petitioners complained of the competition to which the'' het will see that this has been a
gradual decrease, and that
were exposed with foreign shipowners ; that their cart ' as been going on for many yars past It is not just to
1960 was, of British shipping, entered inwards, 4,,67,000
tens; the retain for 1640, was 4.700,000, • diminution of had been reduced one-half, and that still they could had no ' ascribe this decrease to recent legislation. ; and if I lied that
67,000 tom; the average of the foreign shipping, entered remuneration for that diminished capital; that the reserve ; during this decrease, the shipowner has not lost I conclude
inwards, in the three years was, 2,082,000 tons • and, in of the coasting trade was of no value to them, because the I that the fact is not indicative of ruin There ' '
186 e, it was 2.499.000 tee, or an increase of 417,000 tons ; admission of the foreign ships in other trades reduced de- , stances which would latterly have naturally rcelrdeuneetial.
sad ennuis, the balance against us in 1860 as coins structive average for freights; and that in the Indiaaand , freights. Formerly British ships passed half
ptIV mith the previous three years had been other distant seas hundreds of British ships were to be ' unemployed in ballast, and the thelir tune
owner had, ofccurae, to
blf ,000 VIOL Here, then, was conclusive evidence that the found without any employment. This is almost exactly I charge a higher freight when his ship was employed, to
e
matt aWe first years experience of the alteration in the picture in all respects which the right hon. gentleman ', cover the hoses of the period when she was m balMst.
lhellol lelli been to diminish the employment of British has drawn for us to-sight. The right hon, gentleman, in , British ships being now fully employed, it f llows
'111111,1260nd iaerame the employment of foreign ships. his reply to Alderman Wakeman, on the occasion I speak
ht.
Nor Oak it wee possible to look upon this as ate of, used much the same argument which I have often had I (Hear, hear.) I must also remind the •ht hon. gentle-
Peru, rwmffillellie night not occur in future years. (Hear, to use on this question. He said it was impossible that man that the emit of shipbuilding hat been greatly dial-

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muisite (or re fares Bishop of mend—that since the commencement of the present year busiart s
A ,I then bad been symptoms of improvement. He would take (Hear. ham)
r right hon. '.._ .• d • ~.,, , .f the five months of the present year, and ctiPliiitu'th• I
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believe that that tabula, distement of entered is the sir months of 18.50, was i 1 I tone, and 1848, the total
was the whole mane of de see, or in tie same period of 1851, 916,000 tons ; increase of tom ;in 180,
l re property as yanked to the 2711011reas, or 42 per err (Her.) la reser all enterers vies 11,400,001
the err ran, the ismenee of (reign and the decrease of entered inwan
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