The Express.
London, England, 1847-12-07 00:00:00

ef ireimul would not hesitate or inlay to wry that law into
demition.
TA, lad of HARDWICK' Marna to • peddoo. Pm
=lll lit the take port of do onesii, oespitilth.:
ehlg=lsce‘th.eurisailleilltell dseyFeirnt
doer meet to theism's@ at the senuttry.
'Lod PROUGHANdosired, thetas the Lontliestamot
of helmet probseni hints" Mdlelled with the law as it
piremsseen
se, oathtoish=y
ittte
to
quasi lot! the law
stringent law
eodd
Avon dr t.
AM BY mid,_ that aeotedinse to all the reports received.
=reln Ireland did not shrink front the performance of
duties. As keg eis that continued to be the caw, her
Majesty's government would be indefensible, if they asked
for extraordinary powers to set aside the administration
of the existing law. Her Majesty's government shrunk
from no responsibility ; but nothing would be more rub or
unadvimble than that they should pass opinions as to what
were or what were not speeches inciting to crime. In rases
where the intention was most mieWevous, it had often
happened, even in this country, that legal grounds for con-
viction were wanting.
Their lordships adjourned at ball pat 7 o'clock.

• HOUSE OF COMMONS.-MONDAY, DEC. 6.
The Smut= took the chair at font o'clock.
PUBLIC BUSINEAS.
ricaness.-117 Mr. I. witines,
.loot a plass net bead; Mr.
Wee= treat tta Them trom ffinatruy ohne pal-
e= hest Covesagares, Mr We the am of Me ex.
sellelkMr. E WOmeria, Sem ,Detty, Mee.
wide. and Views, kr neesdhil leseemusi am !o. for
~,Inliald. It Imam_ lest ph= le . Mr.
Ifilwfif• Kati Mr. low. beet 443
St 7.--in. apt= the ateaden et *we te —Mr.
Pee= hen Out. kr Ms etiellasn et wilehlere .-114. Maw-
nose= ihemtlekade. bas the pealMment et Sum =WS parts
cis kindle sseeMe bramoderws hem the =ea
PlenTlONlL—Peathas awe peemend aping the ,
Vitighf , Ws% Peal" Lamas, Dundalk. 1
. Maass (Inasses.).—Mr. F. ,I
Faze= *slues (thle Sp), teems be ham to nag a menh sir
re= a ilmeghtl
....:=ls bee
leshmi
Beamena. = Yeti sf HA
Made s„ a
th pest...im.:at en an ere* Ni re here, sew awe
wows et =eke is the me= .careMe et simereski -
seta a was el the lime MS kw eft's Mahan
=Men Oahu the PIM% IM nesmise tbe leek of
=ea at essians dm=east et 7 k oMu.* o at ; sad
hem= metheinsit Ma avondar en thst otheimooMos
a 1.171 Alf ar 11
lisap.Mreiedier he Me feu et
not= Nig= es sea maw he perklid by
rtes wed
...... we= ter ten useam.
es teen sea--Mr. h Deenuen, Mar the rem.
Is mese tre a whet essemlaesiketitlift Ws UM reed. sat MOW
umseltel earsiessleteln
ELECTION PETITIONS.
The SPEAKER ammesseed that e sureties in the me
th
of OM radon spirt the Marna for Great Yarmouth.
dassitpeet,aul Means wine unobjectionable, and that
Ougaided JlLeutgews7 he had received a letter, dated
Doofoiloo Ilig bee the cm. Mr. Cholmondeley, that it was
..selibleitamakta to oppose the petition.
THE COLLIERY INUNDATION,
• 'NIG. GREY was undulated te say (in answer to a gees.
lira ima Mr. F. O'Connor) rat mo representations had as
yiebsomissilk the government reopening the recent Mundt.
dem Nur Wigan, by the breaking down of one of the banks
tt the dyer Doutlu, but when they did, the government, if
maisawy, would institute an inquiry u to tee canes of the
01111111liii%
BRITISH SPIRITS IN BOND.
• Mr. MOFFATT inquired whether it was the intention of
the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in his proposed new Excise
Bill, to extend the bonding privileges to British spirits for
home consumption that were at present conceded to foreign
sad colonial spirits ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
Inland sad Scotland had the privilege of wareboadag
spirits, sad, is he stated on a *mu occasion, he bad di
rected the ittention of the Rahman to various restriedoes
whisk premed unduly upon manNtanre and memeree, sad
me supposed to be unnecessary. He hoped that me of
them be removed, bat he oonld not say white en*
=Meg whole soune intended to be puree= when int=
allies the bill, which he would do after Chriskua
BATTERSEA PARK.
Hir 1. INGLIS iogoired why there was to mesh delay In
isle effect the measure which paned to ISOM,
tof the river at Chokes and the melds( of
Park ?
dad MORPETH said that some of the demands were
NM te be so exorbitant that it was seessaary to tend them
bolus a jury, sad the brat which was so dealt with on
Setesday was Mend by the cordial Ma 10,2121. to 7601.
("Nor," and a bosh.) Idirva that the rest Nth* claims
be Meld Sheeted of at an y accelerated pace.
FORBID TARIFFS.
• Mr. NEWDROATE eked why certain returns, relating
* ie foreign tariffs affecting our customs, and n
a -
nd months4o, had not been presented ?
Afted /W
Aim*
ARM TON said that a portion had been pre-
nented telearde the clues of lot evasion, and that other per-
IR= Ica hew remind from tins to time at the Foreign.
ell= bat were is ewe* languases, and he supposed the
bea. gemiemea deiced more particularly to know how and
toyariaim gosh waists wars te ha translated into English.
Items of emu the ditty of the Foreign-office to lay the
perm setatireg to bi mania before the . hones trans.
halal t het ail we • deli MS it till usual practice, sad sous
MINI Mgt be =piedr! Weift ka it. It was for the
le elleme iM wheUter he would ark to do
the rellsealatedintien Gain ea Om Immee to authorise a trans-
WIN Sr BlLNlNdrese te the WWII.
lft lIWW!!GATE having sated for the direction of the
gutix
said it wu clear the house could not
a tramieliss, and if the persons in the Foreign.
wing *di net wqml/ ens, the only way was to address the
OMAR limb' OM those returns might be forthwith laid
loin MINN translated.
EX-RAJAH OF SATTARA.
Mr. G. THOMPSON shed if the Board of Control bad
received informed= el the death et this prince, and whether
trine leteaded to etw tiny betrestkats to the government
of India is !shames N a previslon fee his family sad his 700
depenateta ? He (Kr. Thompson) had received urgent
lodates how easiabsn Nem njah's family stating that they
were fe cinnastences of extreme destitution.
,Mr. O. LEWIS said that official intelligence of the rajah's
firth-had beessuotimd from the Governor of Bombay, but
bilielieeed die W•ewee =Mad to that simple state.
•Jeell did wayddas respecting the emelitiou
auedly iiiitilllllike to them of the pension.
tit hiring given notice of his questioe,
he
~. •
.) taleildpspeLlyanse to inquire upon the lab-
NO mitealiner Nem to-morrow.
' •L MUR IRS IN IRELAND.
awsiltiltill, mob! the Attorney. General in his
16 ask him a ghee*. of which he badelvenhim
—Whether thine, Nit now stood would enable
ilis law dime of the erowe'l6 Wag to trial those prints
belated . whom denundeatat el penons from the alter
line
followed by their immediate murder? In ease the
was in as litgatim, he wheel to ask her Majesty's
if they wife prapared—glaw, Mr}—
' r: I. 0.03141 ML wand NMN boa the Speaker
Anther it was empetent to the lea. emeabit to put a ciass•
*a which involved ea atrocious astiMmy.
•The SPEAKER till that the question was perfectly
thir. (Hear, lotar.) _
'Caps HARRIS believed the Anse would sot think it
neemeary for him 'to =dee the interruption of the ban,
amber. He wished to Mk, If his fast question was answered
M. de negative, if the government were prepared to
steusgthen the law in this respect, so that it might be able to
...i.willsthose whose peat moral Mittense over their eon-
gape them 6be power of instigating slab crimes?
t •de
bear.)
IlerfOltNEY-OIiNERAL said he was obliged to the
ea0,r.,..5., for the barb of the bedew he
sad be
exttod at he had been promated
theal="64.* Aniiii°a .He mid easily =ewer the
bad Nen NM to tinth, but be wasbat aids to
weed from any ebtembstabose whisk bad Wei rabasel bees
IVOr papers. His smelter wee asthma; eat any
who wad be proved to hale inciuWl tbe 011111111hdeli
er, It beardiv, eold4 be tried eel- ennead; (Hear, Mr.)
II his pcdtlea he Nati met Newer any question with
mimed tit thd laim el the government
TM V IN SWITZERLAND.
Yr. B. one booed to ask the =bile Ink 'thee
tt=
Secretary ON • • AMM, titether the nem Nem.
mem in Swl • • mks any difference withnsurd
to the media .' . lowers in the ethics of that
—Viseititir ~f. RESTON said that informable which
thebsior —. • received showed that the Illell war in
, . . ' Was at as sal. litedimics bapited baberernmee
''
' • emaradibe bad • there ante be Imager
.11.... partite rittioemottry, thin wouldhe me
. . .
• ' ' t . PoZtViVOT. •
0. Nearer le a issistioe from Pow' memtbar,
lihr G. GREY Mt that the Reminel Act et 151,0-
kbeen cothillend sad altered in 1647, sad it was sit the
oftkil sweetmeat to nuke say
.alteraties la that
• Mather samisen of be working abbough bi a
- rims* of ea law of orttleetent, the Ohmic& if
rmeeval might Come woke emideration.
'APPOINTMENT OP ASSISTANT-BARRISTERS
• Mr. P. O'CONNOR% to ask. the right hon. gentle.
Man, the Secrepsy for d, if the law officers of the
awes bad been ocasulted to tbe appointment of Mr. Preach
ad amethers==cr sane we did sot catch, tithe
V 4. SOMERFILLE said that, not hay*. g had modos
he was not able to glee a dlittailit salver.
Iflttrirkircaolt was appointed he was not in bet
ha premed the keAlkutimant could Duke NA sppout, obit-
eat; without reference to the law officers of the teem.
..
CRIME AND OUTRAGE IN IRELANIL
Os the motile for the ardor of the day for OS semi
r7l"this bill,
113 of .
O'CONNELL said that, in the abeam= tithe M.
member for Limerick, owing to severe indispoitigm, he roes
to mon the useadoseat of which the ham, isamtre had
given neties—via. that the other orders of the istr_fro reed.
He felt It to he his bovitehle duty fo offer to this till, in this
.sat sissy OM Maps, his dsteamiaed °melds.. Emu
if it wore sot that be had eliections to several ohms of the
bill, N. should feel eishisi te scow ii, as reamed had
not amend oat their deolaselimp of bringing in. remdial
tinwares fez the &Moog etege of Ireland Ned la kind
WA Mae des
etafoolistihmellereisa. lie would not eater
Mu saw a of the pluvial:me of the bill.
Se woad ask bow No. gorminseint hit tic.—
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strenuously ••--
two years r
mem* '

hired sew how* ea the people Oinked ? There wee no
proteztoihorkg a esseeles Mak Me gement ss. It
WAS kas ars.47 rieersieist that
rkers. kid .been le devise • assmarts
of . the of the DOW bill
e; liirklitiaatehse seide at MabliTrialt: re-
maser* Mk &dared that the Ones
ei.=rewriter, was the • el •
is the waxemay questios. mwentawat,
demeess% were without eseesek maks a serfdom bill,
whkk Wight wait till the time of llwi Cyder wake arrived.
In the interval of two emellis white world elapse, the ark
nary powers of the law might be stratedied to their stunt
extent, and then if they would come and say that it had been
tried to its utmost extent, and failed, and called on pulls.
asset to strengthen the executive, and to give them powers
beyond the law ; if this could be said in February, be (Yr.
I. O'Connell) far one would give them his entire support
and concurrence in the molt stringent measure of coerdcia
they could propene. The right hon. gentleman the Secretary
he the Home Department said the other evening that Ito
lei umildently expected that a new era would have
in Ireland, and peso', good order, and tab'
Gave pear fled, but what had been done by the governess's*
and parbuient to ensue such a state of things? The right
hon. sentlemes had no right to say this till the government
had silassessddrimisis ill the social cor dittoes of Ireland.
The right boa. geneemas mid it was the duty of the govern-
ment to look to the INNS of the evil, but, at present, they
could not wait for the 11101, progress of legislation. He thus
condemned himself, for the government bad thrown away
the last mission by not then bringing forward remedial mea-
sures. He agreed with the right boo, gentleman in think-
ing that it was rot in the power of parliament to do eve*.
thing for that country ; but what had they done ? He (Mr_,
O'Connell) denied that they had done anything. He put be
to the government, that before they pressed this mummy
' they should try the present law to its utmost es.
teat. Let them bring in a short bill to increase*,
pollee and to establish a registration of enne.l
Such a hill he would support; bat they ought
not to ask fur the other powers in the bill till the law
as it stood had lean tried, until special commis ions had
bees tried. It was said that special commissions had not
been heed bemuse there were such few cues to be tried ;
bat yet a ammo width involved an infraction of the con-
asimelea was to be brought in for those few eases. Matters
weregestieg askew in Ireland—the government had taken
op the sefereieg of the payment of rates with and it
had bees adesittail that the three last outrages
as simian were; isksulded. The governmest Ohm
the opinions of hostile to the people without the
advice dmepepsdre party. They had taken the opiates@
of the megistmene, a set of men who never showed any
anxiety far the boss& of the people, and were never pea
vainest bat what mama of severity against the people were
proposed. (The her, gentleman then read a letter from Mr.
Casks, a arightrate in Tipperary, to the Lord Lieutenant,
which stated fa effete "That all the magistrates required wee
that on a proclamation by the Lord-Lieutenant all the arose
in the district should be lakes up, that there should be •
system of police-surveillance, that had characters should be
subject to transportation if found out of their houses after
certain hours, that there should be a summary evil of
offenders, and heavy fines imposed on the district in defeat
of conviction of the guilty : in such a case the Lord-Lienb
tenant might rely on the conparetion of the magistrates of
Tipperary.") Thislwas • *LLD of the advisers of the
government. They had also another bad adviser, and he was
a member of that house, the right hon. gentleman the mem-
ber for Tamworth. Thst right hon. gentleman said the other'
night ghat he bad had to peeve the same cue in 1814 re
that which was brought forward by the right hen.
gentleman the Home &meaty. Whose fault was that ?
Had he not been at the head of the government ? Had he
no better measure of statesmanship then what had been well
called the vulgar expedient of coercion. Like the sailor who
desired only more rum and more tobacco when be hargot as
much as he wanted, the right hem gentlemen could ooly
propose more wend= and mess arms bills. It was mainly
to him and his party that the distreeted state of Ireland was
owing; and yet his advise we %hes by a government which
had • ehareeter he mate messeM62 be lose. The right hon.
gentleman declared that hi Maid set sweat to the intro-
deaths of eseasaree le theismalt of Inland at the same
time with those of ourcion, for be won eat one of those who
wesM hold parley with murder. (Hear, hear.) If he
meek that they (the Irish party) bed so, be (Mr. O'Connell)
Grew boa the kmaialima. The right honourable baronet
lad She 1110WWWIllaw:A1,10WIL There was
aethigiatchis: lead se tem* to Lideleit r a detec-
tive owithey ealy be she system in
Indeed. wet may li bear the rightlies gentleman
the Home issmlsry gin semrehisg like an assent to this on
the pert Mthe govenween. Me Implored the government
not to list that accursed epees= spread through the country.
With mud to the b- el messnres which were to he
propose% they had km tell of a greed jury bill, which
was no desk much wanted; bat this was only a bill regu-
ladng aamtbliesimetitutiou, Ned set one which would go to
the amwes e the social mils of Ireland. Then there
was the bill to facilitate the sa'e of encumbered
Metes, which was exesillat be its purpose, and
weed, no doubt, produce geed results ; but they. must
he in the future. It bad not been brought in or
sold, and, with the intricacies of the law of landed
gasperty, the time would be distant ere it rpm.
imislt.; time.
He had heard of no other
memos, thi Landlord and Tenant Bill, which was
said Whelk There wee abundance or evidence
to show was at the bottom of the
irtilie.
evils of a question relative to this
bill soma he was told that it was in preparation,
bat the es difficult a one that it must be post-
art
Mr peke. This was what had been said for
56 Other ere ties, Prussia among the rest,
Mill this meatelse, end yet England had
ail biliall eMbfleaftera ;dr setae
dlh aiti;ol'llitioe
front. If
age Tia
Patu=9ll* ilitikeitaisteentre for this object,
keeposea
t would wore In earliest, and the happiest
effects weddings rod la Ireland. But the pro-
f:nit!!! Own bl Iffiffe 51' ial ineseeres, had not been
foIMON. All that LA been promised to the deputation
whisitbad recently wallelspea the noble lord at the head
of theigle gut iha snoistance should be given to
the logell-4,2an lialtgliMallise 'mold only relieve 500,000
out of purple in Ireland, and he (Mr.
J. O'Connell° cosittsileistept it es adequate to meet the
distress and destitution which prevailed. The government
surely could not know the extent of that distress and destitu-
tion, and it therefore became his duty to lay before the
house some facts on that subject. He held is his hand •
statement of the condition of eight parishes in the west of
Ireland. One parish, of which the Rev. Mr. Maclean was
priest, contained • population of 2,188, the timber of deaths
were 90; there were now 772 totally destitute, and those
likely to bums so immediately were 1,007. Their condition
was gas& worse than it was last }ear. Another parish, of
which the Rev. Thomas King was priest, contained
2,64 Is population, the deaths were 100, and the
number utterly destitute was 2,000. A third pa-
fish, wader the are of the Rev. Mr. Feeney, contained 2,800
mesas—the number of deaths bad been 200 and there were
not six families is the parish that were not utterly destitute.
Another parish, of which the Rev. Mr. Morgan was priest,
eonbtesd 3,4oo—the number of deaths was 623, those
uttuety destitute were 1,000 in number, and there were not
above 4 or 6 families that were not likely soon to become so.
The lime. Mr. It'Hals reported that his perish bed a popu-
lation ef 6,9oo—the deaths were I.ooo—the number totally
destitute was 8,184, and the rest Lindy to fall into the same
coadlells, oleept 6or 7 families. Another pariah presided
over by the Rev. Kr. Lyons had • population of 1400—the
deaths were 36, and the number of destitute per-
sona was NO. The pariah under the care of the
Rev. Mr. Moylan bad a population of 4,2oo—the deaths
were 600, and the number of destitute persons was
MA, and nearly all the rest of the population was about
te became se, and in the Rev. Mr. Enonght's parish the
=a was 9,4oo—the death& were 600, those totally
ewe 2000, in number, and of the remainder 4
wow Mews to be redo°. d to the same condition. These
wee herewith Maid not be disputed. To show what was
reephrei he !mimed, he would quote a paragraph from a
bluerMildredby his Grace the Catholic Archbishop of
Team Dr: WHale to her Majesty's ministers. He writes
—o.Prealeitiles tode end property is our prayer—we desire
• merionse el peeNstion which .hall embrace the lives and
property ef all disees. Oar sympathies extend to every
porde& se estalg, bet if there was no hope for the starving
the poor-law, a speedy repetition of an the
v. mn beim would follow. Theratore, we impkee'
proles*e fee paperty and for what is far more valuable,
the Eves of ues -411. Now what bee the government
done tetnest tbe ? The hew had been told that
the enema el peereates het bees imileved to an unexpected
extent. If the ma which had been realbed was spent in
relireling nit embalm and inereadlig &strew, thena
pesimplim sem 'posed he sansiletien; but the'
mewl weint Wash* that mest of thin Lions were
ia deb., Li that Mire inn heavy arrears of expeaditme
which swat line be ihtemiged out of the hods se edlested.
He impleared the Lose et Ls to show rime swan of the Is.
jury 6001116 baked by depriving bar of her own pun& 1
runt. flat step had been cruelly and criminally taken.
Beau menehess Weald not dated the way is which the
Lisa 1,111111110114 bat held that It eight es le rEartee
:sett= io.trisiVriteihrealsolheatbe ELM
to Zeal* the delimit hail mined. Sepal tide wheelies : •
How LOS mmilibi het frame% support her papas i
In ISIS Se gemeamest emembelosers stated that in that
year them worm Sinikes pee* destitute; but what was
the row iner f Oa tbe see head, the e*tal of Ireland had •
bees smitakil4disikidied,and on the Wise band pauperism
bed liikesbnt keemed; and theagh the capital was
inedildwirk UN to ft 110.6.2.1re1and Was now
calleten with a , to support the
MOM whisk sew in that country.
Theme IL =tall by haws of thte rotate sop Ld been
adafftled te Ws sot Met them LI,OOO . That anittent had
bess'isieftesd by the her el Mesh and pigs, so that the
define* of treelike emitel Lai net be estimated at
lea then from mamma, be 1115000,0001. How, then,
ia lemon mak was it peek hi Ireland to support
4,19319,00: et (lig at the mood time ? He asked this
ootastreki , though* might be taunted' fob it. He
asibid ihe t for swam, and let thus afterwards
shame Ws It what they ahem. He hid never yet
meals *A hoses any ilea& se ameidentlea he Irish (
of M. Ile resealed that assertion
wok in-
end &Denial. lbst the Intimate of
Ireland badi=sdbesa to Me kfteesti of Eng-
lead. Tle MA a gain le. Ms Limy
she reed, fte he Laid , Wt
ea Ms qui&
ati:sair the Liss ease eserweet maks that_ Ilsed
WalEsif he 'totillitive •" bad b..--
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IrZtlejTA
as the do:hunt I

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tlf . = - in. Mos
MC
went 12•11 brat begiels ' Whe
mesa ashes they law immellits aid
2111rij
NBA Be mad sett eede&hee--the eletelle=
lit *elks , • btaltililleaseabligifs thr/likaaltillA
m
mem.
sod the espeallstre newt mkt idler Ask
amounted to 3,444,210 E The mei pity la thses lame
was 2,163,7101. • and be begged Mee how it wlesksegte
that rated property could staid the key of nearly
which would be necessary, now that the food relief had
ceased ? Hem he submitted that the government ought to
some lerward with a rate in aid from the imperiel
taMi. -Ile which Ireland contributed as well as
Bat there was yet another fearful winter,
=Telhig fir immediate 0011aii•ration. In Ireland fever
and awe dbestes were now spromiing rapidly, and in addi:
=r
atio= 4:tal fll:ll.lmakMas,thiTateß:hrcePs' sad
hem the of papa teed, war ill
to the le=orlliatele Maws tatiimphismarat elhe
eimalai meth ademilille larerematalrrallhe
ea this eld• of the water to fundehigto
eke* the spread ef dhow. Those remmentediel
=by the repeat of the Board of Health t
the answer of the government in thireereffelay ?
IY4elated that they regretted to learn that hoer bol sot
but they had no power under the laws for ankles
Imps ter that purpose after the lat of October. Why, then,
dB not they tome to this house to ask for powers to
keel& means instead of seeking a bill of cosesion? (Hear,
beer.) Oa the subject of ths pm law, be weeld only ad/I
noting mew— Ii that thaw* lilted the sup-
wiLf trot ewe eer, all ,were. sgbs--tim
sod the artina—
i';'. every elm was lip
is'l•l,l*.ejettee takeover /Meat
noise which the country- laloarel. Many of the better
elm were reduced to a ciendition whir* almost made them
thinenales for the wackier/am. The Mo.- amber Mamma
eammes extracts from the Ma meepagmetswiskeer lhe
prevalence of distress, together hide MI et
provisions. The hon. and leaned wressiser they al= M
some of the proceedings of the Isla emaell, sad mid aid be
entirely dissented from the peeped of extending the laseme
tax to Ireland, which would he aim ands that esmate7.
However much the Irish membere were divided en ether
subject', they concurred in thinldirg that no dependenee could
be pleoed on the poor law for the ,seiest of rife in Ireland.
Their representations were met by the reports of goreresseat
officials,who had a direct interest in 'nab", favoorabiempoves,
and representing thing as batter thee they were. The me-
morial of the Irish hierarchy to the Queen ought to eon-
mend attention from ministers, and convince them that
something far different from a coercion bill was needed. The
Irish hierarchy had the full confidence of the people; their
representations were supported by the balk of the Irish
members, who were unaaintons in declaring the law in-
sufficient, and in asking for some modifieation law of
landlord and tenant. Every one !new that a amount
of capital had been hoarded, freethe inability of tenants
to employ it in the land ; this gamey had now been applied
for the engross of emigration ; sad its dowiagiet a the
country oodd oily be perreetei_bq • mom saiablisbiag
tenant-right. Let parkamet. Mao lialahalf act air
deter, do ionise to the ismommt, rag read Me
Every past cemathess eadeweeismelhaWsenTle
of Ireland misty to the lasseerity et temet-right. Is the
digest of Lord Devon's oommkeden, the some fast was Meted
and deplored. It was to be regretted that, while every
pamphlet which maligned and misrepresented the eolantey
wee eagerly laid hold of in Engle/ad; end quoted en both
aides of the house, the testimony of one disinterested wit-
ness, an Englishman, Mr. Wiggins, had been entirely over-
looked. This gentleman declared that the want of tenant-
right was the monster grievance of Ireland. The same
thing had been asserted on the bench by Chief Judie* Pease-
father. This fatal cause had been long in operation, nod
would continue so, until Ireland was plunged in chaos awl
blood. In allusion to the unhappy victims of the recent
minden in Ireland, he was bound to state, after the attempts
that had been made to blacken the character of the pea,
sentry, by representing the victims as men of the most hu-
mane and unimpeachable character, that in several of those
cases there had been harsh treatment of the tenon.
V.allie late Mr. Roo was stated to have broken his word
to a tenant. In proof of this the hou. member read a letter
' from a Mr. W. Loghlin ; also an extract hem an Irish
paper, charging the Miliff Hill with making am untimely
distraint on a tenant named Quayle. The right her. the
Home Secretary having, in a speech of three MM. 'raked
up everything be could to blacken the charts:Mr of the
peasantry, and to exhibit the crimes of those he low
estate, he woe bound to expose the mime of
those in a higher position. (Hem.) The homarable
member then read some further extract., reflecthsg en
the landlords generally in severe terms, and stated that he
had several others in his possession which he should refrain
from reading, because his correspondent bed stated that some
parts were perhaps too highly coloured, Government ought
to pass a coercion bill, not for the peasantry, but for the
landlords, for the sake of teaching them their real interests.
In Osier, where tenant-right prevailed, the landlord was
sure of his rent, and the tenant was prosperous. Zst
esi
objection to this system was that it prevented the
tion of small holdings ; but that was a light evil, an weighed
against the great good which resulted from the system. R.
' aavuomed no theory, but was confident that a ressorattlea of
i tenant-right would effectually atop the murderous proem&
ings that had recently taken place. To the present maths
bill he objected in foto, because it was unaccornpaniedby mea-
sures of relief. As to its details, he objected to them bream
they made the Lord-Lieutenant a dictator, and gave him
a power above the constitution. The right hon. baronet who
introduced the bill had described it as one of merely local
application ; but the Lord-Lieutenant, if he chose, might
enforce it is every county in Ireland. True he was a good
and humane man, but it was not prudent to iirmst him
with powers so arbitrary and unlimited. Another objection
was that the bill embraced the penalties of the Whiteboys
Act, and made them applicable even where there was no
proof of outrage and murder, as required by the Whiteman
Act. The power of search was a dangerous power, although
given by this bill only in a mitigated form. As to the power
to call upon the country to go in search of the murderer, he
believed it would be utterly inefficient and inoperative. If
the bill did reach a committee, which he hoped it would not,
he should bale to battle the several clauses which it con-
tained there, anal he would not, therefore, at this state go
further into detail. He called upon the government to re-
hire* the distress of Ireland--to be just to her—and
thus to avoid the necessity of such bills. Ireland could
not be crushed down into utter misery without this country
suffering also—nothing could prevent the poor of Ireland
from sealing refuge in England, and they would bring fever
into this country, and throw the bunion of their !Mato
name on its people. Again, he would ask what would be
the state of Ireland in the event of this country being at
war—how could rebellion be prevented there if justice were
denied ? Notwithstanding the wrongs of Ireland, the
English people advocated this bill—ail the papers of this
country, with the exception of the Morning Chronicle, were
hounding on the government to coercion ; but that paper,
to its credit, was advocating a settlement of the differences
between landlord and tenant. The hon. gentleman pro-
oseded to defend the Irish priests from the charges which
had been made against them, and declared that but for their
exertions society would long ere this have been at an end in
Ireland. Ever since the connexion of the two countries
Ireland had been opprened, and whenever relief was given
it was meagre and tardy. Eighteen months had pawed
since the last coercion bill wan proposed in that house. and
not one measure of justice bad been adopted—not one single
act of eubstantial kindness had been shown to Ireland, and
now they found the very men who had so nobly opposed
coercion coming forward as its friends and advocates.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. POWER condemned a coercion bill for Ireland, un-
acoompaied by remedial saemaren He wished to see
crime put down by the streag that of the law, but he
thought the existing law we eerily edlaiskt lerthe pur-
pose. If extraordkory power* were le be metal far the
Pmme he
herierld the Jfeeele*Nllli te hetet as dm.
raster el the mem whe mesa heel-tin Mere powers
into asst. Wing Vary act the Ishh imaisei sad magis-
trates, +he gmeamly had beer magi* le leek upon their
Cobb letealtrea es an labeler
mt rase?_ Am* they were dam:i-
mam to be entemitillk m
ekauthority. The
Misigelgieman *ea eshadel the Usk prisms Ikea the
ashreeiles whisk be said hal beset Itis open mei
timbal thel they teem eitimlatiteleWhweder to
utak ember Ike te emsemw IL Es lb me-
teed, that the 10111•111.athelle ii.ea wee lea •
with eoesdatimel liberty, lwermang Spain, a
pert el the United Mateo of America, and, Molly, the
earls of Pius lE. to give hakes to hay, is pawl of the
minion.
Mr. GRATTAN said he would support the ammo of
the government because he thought the time bed Nine
when humanity required support in Ireland. (Hear, Mar)
He would support the bill for the honour of the Irish Widow,
which woe tarnished by cowardly murder,. (Hear, hear.)
His hon. friend the member for Limerick introduced a great
des! that wee irrelevant into the discussion. He talked of
the want of assistance on the part of the munernment to re-
lieve the distress and misery of Ireland. That was all very
right, but the present was not the time for that question.
(Hear, hear.) The question of direness had nothing to do
with tits question of outrage and crime. A man starving
would some to ask for breed but not to take away life.
(Hear, hear.) If a man wanted to go toe relief committee,
ha did net go with a pistol or a blunderbuss, but with a oan
for his asap. He thought that his hea. kissed had taken
away hem Itieseaf eh gross* be emesitisa a the meamm,
bemuse he did set support the memintiled puspasi ii. the
&diktat, ea the pound that the
patitesimitiL geetheuin,
the Secretary for the Home and the
right hon. gentleman the therstary Doha,
declared that the people would be kept from starvation.
He saw very little coercion in the present lit (Hear,
hear.) When compared with the mmenree at 81t,1822,
and 183.5, it seemed te him to be a mitigated and a
wretched—he would not abuse the WE lie was pear to sup-
p rt—(langhter)—but he was surprised that his ken. friend
did not see the detest Invisibility of the oarillian It ton-
Mind This could not be eons& an arms bill, Or it would
wily Whet them who would be likely to use them for the de-
strostica of human life.• Hs thsegle it right, wheat a moo.
dm wes merstittad, that the people &saki passes tha guilty
pestle& Bit ha amid p farther lim tha 1111, he he *mkt
make the rich man raeseat la permit as ma sa rig
man. (Hear, hear. If a man had geopmhy lee le
defend it, as was
wit Lard De Freya' lad in
who armed their tamale tits.2mem. His bee,
alluded to many points the sole= Mediae
4 the_ -- ----k mpeelallrror—s- • related aea
landlotd - ant law. The
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