The Express.
London, England, 1851-05-09 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDB.—TinitBDAY, MAT 8.
The LORD C111•11CIILLOR took his mat at SIPS o'clock.
ADMINISTRATION OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE—IM-
PROVEMENT AND PREVENTION OF OF-
FENCES BILLS.
Lod warBELL laid on the table the report of the m-
ime ate est these bills, in which considerable atm-
dos Ind Mmosas. He was anxious to elate that the
pm am, merit of those bills wm due to Mr.
Cre,SQ.C., aid Mr. Pitt Taylor,* grandma of the great
jeer wlso had pupated the MI alder hie
Campbell's) auspices. He had also the pleasure of
Mating that he had received stetter from Chief Justice
Dlaekburne. the Chief Justice of the Court of Queen's
Dosch in Ireland (one of the greatest judges who had ever
sat es the beach an Ireland or England)—(hear, hear)—
and who informed him (Lord Campbell) that his
leveed brethren and himself highly approved of the bills.
proposed that the bills should be reprinted with a view
- lo their beige re-committed.—Agreed to.
MESSAGES WITH THE COMMONS.
Lord ItEDESDALE moved " That in eases in which the
Commons disagree to any amendments midi by the Lords,
• or Moist upon any amendments to which the Lords have
dimmed, the Lords are willing to receive the reasons of
the Commons for disagreeing or insisting, as the case may
be, be message, without a conference, unless at any time
the Commons should desire to communicate the same at a
.Deference."
The resolution was then agreed to, and a meteor to that
sleet sent down to the Commons.
APPRENTICES' AND SERVANTS' BILL.
Oa the motion of the Earl of CARLISLE, this bill, after
a short convenatioa, was read a third time and passed.
- CHURCH EDUCATION SOCIETY IN IRELAND.
Legg DUNS.tNY, in presenting the petition above no-
Seed, referred to the paatoral which had heen issued by Arch-
bishop Cullen, deterring Roman catholic children from attend-
fag the society's schools, and said the inhabitants of several
parishes were placed at a great disadvantage. The num-
ber of schools excluded from participation in the public
Brut was I,SIiS, and in them there were taught 111,877
Children.
The petition was ordered to lie on the table.
Oa the motion of Earl GRS,SVILLI, the Exchequer-hills
Dill, the Stamp Duties Assimilation Rill, and the Indem-
nity 13il1 wen: severally read a second time.
'The home adjuunsed at a few minutes atter six o'clock.

HOUSE OF commoNs.-111URADAY, MAT 8.
The SPSAKEIL took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Taunton and Blarkwell Railway (from London and
Blackwell F.stension Railway to Tilbury) NU was read a
third time and pawed.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS I'IIESENT ED.
Peret Ann unistus.—lTy Mr. ALEX AN DER IT ASTI E,
from (11,Airow, signed by A 6,000 piths. inhabitants, and com-
plaining of the ineffective manner in which the aggreesion
of the Pope has been met, notwithstanding the assurances
enntait.ed in the letter of Lord John Rumen; the petition
went on to pray that all government grotto for Roman
oattedie purposes he withdrawn ; that convents and reli-
gious homes should be open to impection, and that the law
of mortmain he amended; By Mr. COWAN, from Edin-
burgh, a petition 700 yard. lout—(a laugh)—and sMned by
43.734 of the inhabitants; Mr. ELLICE, jun., St. Andrews;
Sir 11. DAVI F. I I adding ton ; Mr. S. WOILTLEY, Rotheeay ;
Mr. BEAMS...ION, Eons: ; Mr. COWAN. from one of the
Western Ides; Mr. 11. DRUMMONI), Blair Athol'; Mr.
H. H. CLIVE, Salop; Mr. MILNER, York; and Mr.
THOItNIIILL, Leighton, against.
ItAtimo.—lly Sir J. WAT.MSLEY, from
the owners and occupiers of homes in Great Bolton, as-
bead at and under rii. per annum rent. praying that a
clause may be inserted in the small tenements rating hill,
which will confer upon the occupiers of homes not ammo d
at more than Gi. all the privileges hitherto enjoyed by such
iteespiere.
TILAPLI on KNowterw.e.—lly Mr. M. GIBSON, Man-
aging (3 petitions); Mr. T. DI•NCOMBE Di petitions),
Figeleary ; and Mr. TUFNELL, Devonport, against.
CEYLON.
Mr. 11. BAILLIE pesdponeil his motion in reference to
this colony to Tui.sslae. May 27.
CltoWN LAND REVENUES.
Lord SEYSIOCIt gave notice that, on Monday neat, he
would Loring in a hill for the better management of the land
ITVCIIIII.II of the rritifll.
SEWERS COMMISSION.
Capt. EITZIMIY wished to pot • question to the right
bon. S. co tart' for the Dome Department. A new rate of
Oil. in the lo.Und hail been evil.' for by the commissioners
of *ewers, and eteited runsiderahle alarm. In coneequence
of the very un,stisfaelory answer given lip the thief tow-
eling of that deportment to a question put to him the other
tight, be (Capt. Fiterov) wiehill to kn..w when it wee the
Mt. ntion of government to bring in a bill to renew or re-
the rommi....ion of newer.
Sir D. GREY aid at that moment he was not prepared
le say when the bill would he brought in.
DANISH CLAIMS.
Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that, oft the fleet night of
apply, after Monday night meat, be would stove a resolu-
tion novenae the Danish claims.
BLIC 111.1 VENT K AND EKI'ENDITURE.
On the ',unman( Mr. lIVISR, certain return. were ordered
of mildle mei nue and nip !Witmer, from 102'2 to 1330,
both inclusis...
REPEAT. OF TIDE MALT-TAX.

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Tt titi.m• in tarnur of the repeal of th.• malt tax having
Urea rn....nteol by Mr. Frearn, &not Suw•a ; and Mr.
Damn h, tn.= a farmer holding 2,000 .arna iu Cambridge-
'hire
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Mr. rA LEV one to volonit hi. motion for tlw repeal
of the mali•tas, than which, h.. no :Isar.• short of a
nioni to the .y.tem nt r 1111 l legislation we had un-
happily atiand •I, •1011111 gift' Po much relief to the airri-
el&nuul interest. N. kiwr the commutation of the window-
tax for tlii bona-tan, wir the reduction of the duties upon
till, r mot entree, diminished the special bunlans upon the
land; whereas the inaltdaa WU 40 oppressive, olatructive,
mid tilawaiouv, that the late Sir Itohert Peel declared that
that tat must ht repealad if the eon, taws werw removed.
mad oohs, fn.-trade ailvileat.•• had echoed the deelaration.

Le TWIE 11W1110 taunted with wishing carried was shown by the fact. that a very short time ago
to disturb psi& coedit, and to bring hack protection. seven publicans in Loudon were fined 2001. each by the
Now, no person wee more deeply attached to the mainte- Excise for that While°. Ile was not one of those who asked
LUNN of the purse faith and honour than he was, anal he or espy, teal that 4.010,0001. of money should he at once
we. stir, that the beet security the public creditor could taken from the Excheimer. ' Hear, hear," from the
have was to he found in the pnisnerity of thole from whom Chancellor of the Exchequer.) Hu should he satisfied if
his m / was drawn. (Hear, licer.) But the agriculturist. the right ham. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
were now in • state of great distress—a distress which they would say I admit you have a certain portion of justice
neither would nor could hear up against any longer. (Hear, on your side, and it is only proper and fair that we should
bear.) It would be said that he was looking for protection. endeavour to approximate towards the total repeal of the
There woes nn man untitled to claim more credit fur exiled- malt tax as fast as we nut, and as I cannot do all I could
log himself from any direct attempt to restore pmtertion wish for you at once I will begin by reducing the tax 10
than ha. (Mr. ('ayley). lie always told the farmers that per cent. this year, '2O per cent. next, and so on, [year by
they must endeavour to adapt themselves. to the present year, until it shall altogether cease." (Hem.)
state of things by looking to a reduction of taxation; that Mr. PACK E einuckled with Mr. Cayley in considering
they must look to and exhaust every other means of relief that the British farmer laboured under overwhelming dis-
bef ore they could ask for a return to protection. Ile tress, which he was anxious to relieve ; but a fallacy ran
knew, mad he regretted to hose to state that there through his argument, owing to his not distinguishing the
was no chance of a return to protection till the interest of the farmer in his two capacities of a consumer
physic hail work. il more. But it was working. and a producer; far every is. the farmer would gain in one
(Hear, hear.) No later than ten days ago, at a capacity he would hie 20s. in the other. Thu importation
peddle alanner in Glasgow, eempsised of persons, of whom of malt was now prohibited, and Mr. ('aylev had tailed in
three-tourtlis were free traders, the otagnation of commerce showing that, if the tax were repealed, malt would nut be
wan complained of, and it was admitted that no serious dis- invented from abroad. His (Mr. l'acke's) conviction, on
tress could fall upon onegred class of the community without the contrary, was that, if the tax were repealed, there
affee ting the others. 'she free trade party might now, in would not only be a large importation of malt, but an in-
his of hi• divided into certain classes —viz., those creased importation of foreigu wheat; and for this reason
who admitted free trade to he a failure anal acknowledged he opposed the motion.
privately and secretly indeed that some change was naves- Mr. AGLIONBY likewise opposed the repeal of any
sag —those whine opinion, had changed from confidence part of the tax, because the finances of the country could
to ,)aunt —anal thine fanatics who would rather go to the not at present bear such a sacrifice of revenue.
oratfold or to rain than admit they were in error. Mr. FLOYER supported the motion mainly on the
(Hear, hear.) They had remitted no less than amorist. ground that the maintenance of this tax was at complete
of taxation since the repeal' of the corn laws, varianee with the financial policy of the government, namely,
but thew remissious were all in one direction. It was said that on all articles of prime necessity taxation should be as
that the hon. member for Burks wished to return to the much as possible natured. If barley were not an article of
Breton of protection, but the propositions made by that prime necessity, why was it relieved of duty when the
hen. gentleman, es well as those made by himself. were corn laws were repealed t if it were such an article, as he
made a ith the view of adapting the new system to the old contended it wan, how could such a tax, tenfold greater
interests. if they were to have no corn law legie- than the amount repealed, be justified ? Mr. Eag
ha er cepa-
tenon they must ve no corn law taxation. (Cheers.) tided at sonic length upon what he regarded as sure spiv-
Now, what was the question before the house? They tem. of agricultural distress.
imposed a burden upon an article of agricultural pro- Mr. SEYMOUR bore testimony to the diminution of
duce amounting to between 70 and 100 per cent. (Cheers.) pauperism in Dorgetshire.
But it WU said lay the free traders that this bunlen was Mr. BENNET considered this to be a question of justice
paid by the consumer, and not by the producer. Well, if to the agricultural interest, and that upon the principle of
that were so why was the cotton interest so clamorous to free trade our beverages should be ea free front tax as our
east off the duty on raw cotton ? Was not that also paid by corn.
the consumer ? (Hear, hear.) The reason why the free Mr. TRELAWNY denied that the repeal of a tax which
traders ware so mations to get rid of the tax on raw cotton was ultimately paid by the consumer could benefit the agri-
Was that the tat raised the price and so diminished the cultural elegies, who must be taxed to supply the de-
consumption of the article. (thou.) Bat was not that the ficiency.
case with the proalueer of the elements of beer? In Mr. WODEHOL7SE should vote against the motion. His
consequence of the credit which was given to the malt- main objection to it was that at present there was an &boo-
ster, a bondsman was required, and the large =haters lute prohibition of the importation of malt, and that, if the
being able to get a bondsman more easily than the smaller duty were removed, though large quantities of foreign malt
ones had, in fact, a monopoly in consequence: anal one might not immediately come in, the finer qualities of bar-
reason why the tax should &e altogether repealed was that ley would be immediately affected.
that was the only way of getting rid of the gigantic mono- Mr. FREWEN supported the motion for the repeal of a
poly of the maltaters and the brewers. (Hear, hear.) Ile tax which operated as a strong inducement to country
dial out propose that the tax should be repealed at once. brewers to drug their beer, a vast quantity of liquor sold as
Ilia proposition was, indeed, to bring in a bill to repeal the beer being not pure malt and hops. A further reason was
tax, hut if he were so fortunate as to get a committee it that malt might be most advantageously used in fattening
would be for the committee to say in what manner the cattle, which would bring many thousand acres into culti-
remission should take place. He had no wish to embernus vation.
the Exchequer; and though he wished to see the as repealed Mr. J. SANDARS said, Mr. Cayley bad given no sufll-
at the earliest possible period, be would be contented cient reason for concluding that the repeal of this tax would
with the reduction of one-half the duty in April next. and increase the consumption of barley threetold. The sta-
the remission of the remainder in October following. What onary consumption of malt, compared with tea and coffee,
he contended was, that the tax should not be allowed to was owing to the habits of the people having changed,—to
continue. It wee impossible for the farmers to carry on their being less addicted than formerly to fermented
the domestic productions of the country under free trade liquors. Mr. Sandan showed that Mr. Cayley had cxagge-
unless their own hands were set free. There must be some rated the obstacles to the importatioa of foreign malt, as
uniform system of taxation, which ...mid enable labourers, well aa many of the evils incident to the tax, the amount of
through the low price of what they consumed, to live as which was too large to be relinquished.
well under a diminished scale of wages as they hail don* Mr. 11. DRUMMOND, oa the part of a clam not repre-
before. Agriculturists could not be expected to go on em- seated in that house, claimed relief from this tax, because
playing labour without profit. It was said that wefts* it premed almost exclusively upon tho agricultural labourer.
were not reduced in portion to the reduction The deficieug might be supphed by a house tax, an 'Wall-
in the price of corn. But could any man in tional income-tax, or any tax, so that this tax was taken
his erases imagine that the present tale at wives of the labourer.
would matinee if the farmer continued M envy on The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had been
his operation. without • preit ? It ems lowly surprised to hear this tax described as of so objectionable a
and the hibusiring classes /mew it. Me INS MAirbi, ei mature. He had seen many parties who had inquired into
Oleg down into Yorkshire at Itaitsr, le we lie esesees the subject, and they uniformly agreed with him in opinion,
rate at which ensigestian will rim e.—pew. bete)—sei• that where so large an amain( of novenae wise to be raised,
rbotiz. of tb.• bone and um tele of the esastiyolf • diet of there was hardly any tax which could be collected so
re who had peewleady bees is ewe empiarant es cheaply and with so little ineenverdeace as the malt tat.
pew them a command of dark to ashy them amass the The malt tax had last year is round numbers produced
piew:e,reieStleor, bear.) INS MAIM to see the Mee arch 5,400.0001., and the eouweilliosars of emit* reported that
the Warn wvlsi his. to thslr limit by seri- no tax was less objectionable the* the melt tea, and that
colts: el
It walabourers atter hay balsellai hi Amelia sr Altus. the paying of it woe low felt and law *trim than may
tuba. s a mos shwa se Aga ail sod, le the she: tax. The ocitaathicests se Raise slid get IM