The Express.
London, England, 1849-06-05 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY 3VENIN4, JUNE 5, 1849:

Oa tits question that the resolutions be reported to the
home,
Kr. V. SMITH Wished whether the commission upon
the ninthly al law was luny eked ?
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Si, 0. GREY said that farther motley would be ap-
propriated to the um of the cousheioa. Ooe of the cm-
mietioners had recently died, and it was not thought agora-
airy to appoint another gentleman in his place.
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Mr. V. SMITH mid there votes had pissed the commit-
tee with very little observation. He thought it well to o►-
serre, however, that that large vote of 483,0001. for the com-
mi•sariat department bed been brought on without notice.
The neolutions were then reported to the holes.

Mr. BERNAL brJught up the report on supply agreed
toon Friday night, when each vote was pat seriatosa.
On the question of the vote of 103,4631. granted for royal
pshsoss and public buildings,

Mr. J. NiYLD referred to an item of 1,2961. on behalf of
the mihtary kniehts of Winhor, and inquired what por-
tion of that sera was applied to the repair of tha house of the
military knights.
The ATTORNSIT.GENBRALwaI nudentool to reply
that the whole seta was available for that purpcse.
The vote sad several other resolutions were then gone

tensile* upon a !ergs wale of a system of transportation.
I. thought there wo2ld be great danger in adopting the
wieomniendation of a tali' tariff by the authositi of Par-
liament. We had not, al yep, meddled with the customs
duties in the eeloske except where .7otaldow offered and de-
manded, and thee time, the geetetew for the Catanial.
But he wee startled by the proposal of the dira7.4 interfere',"
of parliameat

Mr. V. SMITH concurred in almost every opinion ex-
pressed by the right hon. gentleman who had just sat down.
He felt with him tbat great difficulty would attend the for
nation of a single chamber. Whether It should be a tingle
or double chamber was a most momentous question in pro-
posing a federal government for these colonies.
Mr. WOREGOR conceived the measure one of the most
liberal that had been brought forward for the esti:mass.
Mr. B. DENISON was anxious that time should be given
for the discussion of the measure.

Lord J. RUSSELL said there was an act of the imperial
parliament which regulated the price of lend ; sad it would
not be in the power of the colonial legislatures to alter acts
of the impend parliament. Whether or not they sheu'd
have that power in this particular case, would bs • very
proper question to discuss when the bill was furater con-
sidered; but he wished to discuss theses questions as little
as possible at that moment. He had heard with great in- i
Wrest the suggestions of the right hon, gentleman opposite'
(Hr. Gladstone); their consideration he would reserve
roe the future stages of the bill. One point, or
whisk he had laid considerable strew, wee no doubt
of peat isportenee—whether there should be one
ateumbly, or • council and an assembly, according
Is Mform of government in some of our older colonies.
Tee right hon. gentleman had hardly given sufficient weight
to the objeuims made in New South Wales Well to the
proposal of having a council and an assembly. He said that'
in the Ur Led States the iastitutim of the senate was of the
g et importance, and most %shields in meintaining the
harmony of the whole state and the genteel wetting of the
constitution. He (Lord J. Russell) quite agreed in that ; a
body like the senate of the United States could not but be
of the greatest value ; and the good working of the Ue iced
States constitution was mainly owing to the particular Lem
ice wflok the moats had been framed. (Hear, hear.) Bat
it wastruly sail, that the whole value of such • body mast
depend upon the elements of whisk it was cone
Need. The senate of the United States con-
sisted of men of weight and conelderatioa, minted
by the legislatures of the separate states; and hens the great
authority which they possessed in their combined enpacity.
Thom who objected to such a constitution for New South
Wales said that there were no such materiels from which to
form a emunil, end that in the absence of persons of property
and consideration from which an independent body might be
chmea by the crown the council would be mere nominees of
the crown, persons who, if they Interposed between the
ex ecutitie and the assembly, would take away arose the
former the responsibility of putting its veto upon certain acts
of the assembly, and at the same time would not have any
ouch weight, derived from personal influence sad character,
at would enable them to exercise the requisite math. rity.
That was • question depending on the state of society in the
particular colony. This kind of constitution bad not worked
so well in all our North American colonies. In Lower Canada
when • body was formed by the crown, with the view of in-
terposing • barrier between the assembly and the executive,
it was of very little use, because it was supposed not to he in
accordanos with the general sentiments of the colonists.
This was a point on which opinion was balanced in New
South Wales itself; he would, therefore, not pronounce defi-
nitively. He hoped the question would be fully considered,
and that due weight would be given to the opinion of thole
who thought there ought to be one council. He was In
dined to the *plains that those who objected to the council
and the assembly had judged rightly. Some time hence it
might be desirable to have both a council and an assembly,
but in the present condition of the colony he did not think I
it wasp. However, on that part of the subject he washed
to reserve any decided opinion till the water came under
convileration.

Capt. HARRIS thought the time molt •nprepitious for
introducing a disclaim of this nature. The most objec-
tionsble feature in the bill was the optim given to the colo-
mate of chnoing their own form of government, thereby
throwing the apple of discord among them. It would have
been the wiser coarse to keep beck the question for a year
or two.
Leave was then given to bring in the bill.
DUBLIN GAOLS.
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Sir W. SOMERVILLE obtsined have to bring is "a
bill to abolish the g tol of Negroids, in the county of the city
of Dublin, and provide comps nsivion far the °Mune thereof,
and to enable the grand jury of the county of the said city
to increase the ealsrise of the chapisins of certain other gaols
thereof, and to re assess on the county of the said city cer-
tain amen of the Grand Jury Coo.'
COUNTY CESS (IRELAND).

Sir W. SOM ERVI L LE 1,1, arced leave to brine in "A
bill to make temporary provision relating to the collection o!
county cue in Ireland, and to the remuneration of the collec-
tor thereof."

The ....e bills wen severally brought in and read a fir 4
time.
FREIGHT MONEY.

Captain PECHELL moved (or a return of the amount of
freight mousy paid in each year tines July, 1819, to the ad •
inirais and commodores of the set eral stations. laud to the
captains and officers commanding her Majesty's ships and
vessels far the conveyance of public and private treasure,
with the total asnunt received (hll; the same period by
the treasurer of Greenwich Hospital, as the proportion of
'such freight money for the use of that institution, pursuant
Ito the proclamation dated the 12th day of July, 1819.
Ordinet
"I"%e bowie adjourned at 20 minutes! to 12 o'clock.