The Express.
London, England, 1848-10-05 00:00:00

IRELAND.

Draw!, Ocr. 4.
The case for the crown closed last night, after the
examination of 20 winnings. The details of the
attack on Mrs. M'Corstick's house are now Gate-
serially before the public. They will be read with
extreme interest, not only as a history of the princi-
pal act in the intended insurrection, but because they
will enable men to form an unbiemed judgment on
the determination of the polies and their powers, and
of the intentions of the peoples and the animus with
which they went to work out their intentions. There

are few people wbovrill read this pert of the case who
will set rejoins that the affair at Farinrory emul-
ated SI we know it did. Had the victory been the
other way when should we be now P
The defence begins this morning. What that de-
fence will be it is not sew to foresee. Boats hints is
the Freeman's Journal would seem to intimate that
counsel will method that Mr. O'Brien'. proceedings
were not an armed opposition to the Clasen, for the
=ereatiag a revelation by beer, but an en-
to prevent him own arrest. How such a de-
fines weld be made in the hes of the ',idiom it is
'eat easy to sadentand ; bat if that be the delbece •
Pr/
ch wiry ; blow how to deal with it.
mecharacter sailthe testimony missed the
trial yesterday is in all me nthe twig. men asfamis
of parties to iBify Baith O'Brien--for it animate
to that—mad the Wealth to he sworn, And Mange
developments of the Irish shouter.
Mr. lambkin, of Cork, has been arrsisi end
lodged is poi. Mr. Lambkin had, at the comonsass-
taunt of the arrests, tied to Frame, and bad only re-
' turned two days when he was seised on. He is •
tobeecceisit in Cork, and was heed of a club.
This morning as the 8.30 a.m. slams, Beets. Girt.
Webb, was proceeding through the heath at Kings-
town, she ran foul of a smack Wag at anchor, which
sank immediately. The steamer's out-water struck
the smack on the starboard quarter, a little below
midships, and the craft instantly went down by the
bead. It is not known whether any perinea were on
board. The smack was supposed to be from Wexford,
and had come in in the worse of the night.

rHE SPECIAL COMMISSION.
TRIAL OF MR. W. S. O'BRIEN.
CLONMRL, OCT. 3.
John Limpid*r was the An: witness called to-day ;he
was esunined by the Attorney-General, and aid: I live at
the COMMIS of Headsets. I All the situation of pay.cdtak
under the Milling Company of Ireland. I recollect Friday,
the 28th of lull. I recollect seeing three isuntag cars pass
by that evening and stop at Thomas Sullivan's pre house.
There wen from eight to ten persons on the three ears. I did
net know sissy of there persons before. One of them was
Smith O'Brien. After the car stopped at Sullivan's Mr.
O'Brien addressed the people, about fur or Ave hundred.!
He told them that there was a reward of 6001. for his anest,
and said it they would protect him and arm, Inland would
be ices in a fortnight. Some of thus aid they had no
arms, and he replied that stones were very good weapons for
them who had no other arms. Mr. Meagher and Mr. Dillon
also addressed the people. Mr. Meagher told them to arm
and protect Mr. O'Brien, and they would hays Ireland free
in • fortnight; and drive the Sauna from the soil. I saw
Mr. O'Bnen again, walking at Mrs. Lacken's house that
evening. I saw about forty people, armed, about the bout.
Some bad guns and some pikes. They were walking up and
down before the door. I- saw Mr. O'Brien the neat day
(Saturday), between nine and ten o'clock In the morning,
on the road with the people, between Mrs. Lacken's
and Thomas Saltine's. There were a great many
people, most of them armed. There were at that
time about 100 Ipe ,pl. assembled. They were walking up
and down the read. Mr. O'Brien spoke to some of them
es he was passing, but I was not near eaosigh to hear him ;
at shout twelve o'clock he walked into the yard of the mining
company's concern, and asked who was in charge . • I said I
end he said he eame 63: soms carts and horsesthat were
in the yard; there was only a small boy walking after him ;
he add he wanted the carts sad horses to help to throw up a
barrios& across the rood; I acid I could not give the things;
he replied that he would take them by form, and he ordered
a man who was standing by to wheel away the cart, but
the man refused; Mr. O'Bnen commenced to wheel the cut
himself, but he did net remove it out of the yard, not more
than a few yards ; the people did not come into the yard,
bat then were about 600 of the men outside the gate about
60 yards from it while Mr. O'Brien was in the yard; the
people were shouting on the road. After Mr. O'Brian left
the yard he went down to the road to when the crowd was,
and a number of people, unarmed, same into it end began
to ring the workmen's bed, which they continued to do foe
about • quarter of an hour. The people who were with
Mr. O'Brien erected a barricade ea the road leading to Bal-
linearry ; it was composed of a ladder, some sticks and
stones, se well as I could us from the distar os about 100
yards ,• It was about four feet high ; the people then marched
up awl down the road ; most of them ware mused with pikes
and gar; Kr. O'Brien had • pled in his tend
wises he ease into the yard; the remained
as the reed nose to where the lrriwde
about an hoar they than went towards the Wilan:;
M'Cormkk'L Basle that I saw a body of ennieshedary go
up the road se fez as Soott's Cross; they then termed up to
the right towards M. WOormisit's Iran; 'I raw Mr.
O'Brien gong through the lens with the pen& The
pond, sheeted as they were is anew; amity after that
I heard Slim Alter ;the pain- got to the house I heard
the firing. There were about 600 of the peepie going across
the Gelds to the Widow M.Cosmeak's. Thus were a great
ma mon on the kills around, but I could maw ifthey
wet,armed. About an how and • half alter another
party el pollee marinsg is,, the &sodas el
The who were at the Onmessis had hen withdrawn
throe or four days babas. The liana hinged to the
Minn Company. Mr. Mirka said be *wadi have the
key of the barrack to statism sem et his ma in it. I did
not give him the key.
Cronnamined by Mr. Wlihmide—The aim of the Mi.
niag Company is about • adds is.. Widow MPOsesmiek'•
The property at the 'Winne@ was sot injured. There was
about 50 lbs. of powder is the stores that day. Than was
M made to take it hen as. I nal ast report a
op:17 cam certain I herd him my there was • warrant
for his arrest, and a reward el 60W. for taking him. I went
to lid and ea the ewe eta nesintism, aka hang well
.) Then** ware an as
an
any an et The pike were an in
sight when Mr. O'Brien cane to ask he carts
for a barricade. He removed one el them himself a
few yards. I don't think any of the people maphoyedi by
the company would roll the cart if he dined than; he weld
have get peens stnicesat to roll the leafs if he Air, is spite
of ; the -bell was not rung by TAY; Mum was me hum
due the emus ; I saw some sea famish* people who
win diesmpleyd by Site mining company about tine amain
Mime. The barricade that is nand t 3 pelmet the va-
lise upj Bootee Cross is shed
_c_rotartsr et a mile
his r Coraskies ; I dam's ge le dew Watersides
hews; the pollee hermit wan ly; is was an spend
cc Wen of; bat I hintne door so the* I amid
En it ; thare was nobody there to prevent it Mies
Owes Ceiba Owen, mann by the Beildinesseral : I
the milisriser I live at the Oneman; Ire.
lasienreet i la
swiskg et die Nth ; I saw Mr. °Webs' near
B•llivan's pannier* that night; it is quite am to the
pollee berracke;• time wee an old din) war on which he
was standing ; shed was then salleint tone there to
keep him from • kneed or two humiteimen ;Its said in the
003411111 et his edema he ensiled this wend be a free ens-
try, bat how that Wei te sane feud I Ain't her him say.
Then ware semi Ohre geniseen Owe with him. I don't
think they won atom& Whoa I taw then they were em
can sad they wen of Immediately Aar. I remember the
wens of die _ July. I saw Kr. O'Brisa that morning
is the Wldew Lima's. He seat for me. Ha said he
waned to and • lawn te the rikenare el the Lain con-
. (The witaem wee here Waded the letter, whisk he
iisaslW as the an Mr. O'Brien pre him, and which be
53nrseled to the company's eetelefaiMr. Pezdy.] I made
• hurried espy of it idea I get it whin he peedrandi. I
was the pr al mesa el the campan. We had
moan eel prepany thine, am& wan wire la die but
ia-
jarsd. I remind 1001. to Dahlia that day. Mr. O'Brien'.
mars wee meet kind to use. Me end no threats whatever.
It mane to no that he was afraid et being . anseterl—fly
• Jew : Whoa Mr. O'Brien said he rineeW diet this would
be • hoe emmley, did In give yea any dellaides et what a
fres I
waft was Witness No, Sir, he Milan; ce if he
H Xlis"s was
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searstary to the Mining Ceiszniolhof
eramind by Mr. fkait—henewake
of SW I M basks remind a Inter dm ear 'gen et the
SW
el iskregrerk Neter pennon en ihallbej en
emsnnonieg.- The messenger ef knel ~that the
Wan to me at ety meshy Moen I it
bee the Ann the annoy. sad by knell= el die
direelen tesonnitted • copy of it to Mr. Ilmingten, the
wader esereemy ; Mr. imileglea main to be.. the ni-
ts/lead k mat to him. Frier to lk bias seat to
regnisel to have it tanked by the p.m& whe bad
not k ketato=y. It yr then seat to the t who
it to me, an it was by him.
IsirMLea dire t—l Were he h.
nines Treat essaind by M. Mom : I
wee sktlened le Oakes le July Is Oa froenen the 20th
of Jell. neat ghee or to. o'eleek la the lawnisi. I set eat
from Gamy owl mend et Bohlemomy beenea twelve sad
con I bed hi ma emir my semenn. Aker I hairnet
ihrsairksitaseens I sew movie knowlag me eat mewls
peening the deli ea in. Whim I kki adman&
abeat twe beyond Itiaissfmy
ary, towasis the themane,
I Ginned pen mewls in my heat; sad make demo hem
the bilk end dill nislin. I met with a reed to my
right, tad sapped that is hi to Kilkenny. I wheeled the
=shag the read tea' the& we shield be re.
by name ken Killurny. I scented the hill
seedy a The were inhale, teem dila
eat queners. sad were evemkg to samend nigh
nig-1M eimout enessoiod I. doles whoa we 7....7.;g:
of the dela bean Sem of the pimple were 'lrwin&
or gomseihrtei!imisransksas= Rambla
kiln
whisk ww
ay
asa
twe Seib from tee en the /Mit, sad it they were refused ea-
mien to emit kin it The Me tailed Work the hone
sad I known this. Jut as Unpin& the adore hr the
✓asa token • that wee bed to my ft I tensed sad on
the =a who Ind it with the semis abseibias men eighty
or • kindred yens inn we Men if the yank were all
roemieg wkh the lbw of Inks bonuses es nod ihe lens
sea as et *en k. My meek gat Inner hewn an I thee
dieted them to ten all the leen tidal/ Ma m mal dad
against the nein% an to row tho deen we wen
la the sit at ketraft the leen the hens was sorreoaded.
I gave the ENS ilelts gourd every peet ; end se I was
mosedher the seas to sae that the arm rooms were
sin wise from the rear called see the other.
wit
tes the nein sad saw a wan who wee unarmed
peaks ap hie km& Ile cried out, " For Gad's sake let
tun de as friss we want to make peace." I replied, "If
die nosh MI not Ike, we maid not Ire; but that if s shot
was fired hem is ikon, we would Ire as keg as • cartridge
ore shot ..t be?.' I then gave orders—

Mr. Whiteside: Meet tell as what yen sold sakes Too
spoke to that nen.
Witness: Tbe next thin I heard was a velem from leaky
116011 g. " Tell Mr. Treat Mr. O'Beien la within ; • this we;
welled lap is eas by one of ray Min p. I went &lento tbe
window waken I Ira bass Mr. O'Brien had been,
bat he had dleeppearel. I west op stake mats, sad was
scats infermsd that Kr. O'Sdes was Maw sad wassisd to
ass us. I " so Ise hia asses is let
Ise sod I
will see Ida." Xs 414 see woke. Ismaiimigg Orr I
MIN • era& of elmsleo. sad the minim WWI maga. I
Weedy seam las. earl Mee essausseed. The
rim Meet ea Ws an the Ira eltet le the Is*
iAsr B hol /1110 •• al• • 011•Iid•IS•a• time the people did
to wow to ear moat r seer Bask, sad we bad se am-
dim st the nee, 'reae with, we were est d by the oat-

Cidet Indite Otloberty—l should
%say my lewd, that
Mims In woe Mg op to the house thinnaleurs of the
pegb were mle 1, or 3,000 men. WUrster my eye
vested, I saw time atom Wm. But it is Meat la •
MINI to dials:Welt who Y stmed mid who lo net.
Baaminstist esenmed—The /m!4arleisit hod esemmand
of our row. end I Way they lad emehle himelltd Ism, for
I heard this tell. Shalt metlag tam the back widows
maid pen Meese! Br bobby and oust the front window,
/skim; the latounitilens spew
Chisfiteliss Doherty: Describe what marred daring the
"Awes Darite the entire time then were shoes from
without as well as from within, except perhaps daring the
last live ssiattes ; when there were no shots Gam the out-
side. The shots fired from the people were dro shot.
whenever they had at opportunity. Neither partdes tad it
voilise.

The Chief Justice Blackburn : During the fleet half hour
the firing was continuous and incessant. I should same'
that then were about two hundred shots and front the
outside.

• Joan: Could you state the number of reports you
beard from the outside T—Witness Perfectly impossible.—
The Juror; Could you say that they exceeded 20 or 50?—
Witham : Certainly they did ; they exceeded 100, anti in all
peobabiity there were more than 200 shots from the outside.
—AtiotherJuror : We don't want probebihtiee, gate the feet•
se far you can. Witness : I think Were were at least 200
shots f ; but I cannot go to anything like certainty in
the nutter. Just consider my pakten. r wee La on pert
N the house, which is a large one, and shota were fired
on our ban, on our flank, and our rear ; it is impossible,
therefore, that I could tell the number of thou that were
fired (coca the outside. Alter I sew Carroll, a police ea-
table who was in private clothes, and mute me with a &s-
-witch Iron Kilkenny, I directed the house to be fortified.—
A Juror; Hew many shot• were fired by your own party ?
Witness: The head constable can tan that better than I can.
I snow that I served out 230 cartridges to replica thou that
were fired. I remained in the house two hours after the
, firing had eased, and about the expiration of that time (at
& quarter past five o'clock) Mr. Cox and hie party arrived.
When I saw them analog I fired a signal shot, and that was
the first shot tired after the other firing had reseed.
Cress examined by Mr. Whiteside—There were 46 men
under my command. That would be an excessive number
for a station like Cohn, but the out stations were called in.
The ordinary number of police in Calla was 12.—1 t there
inch a thing in the country as a police barrack with 500 men
in it ? I have not known of such a number in the Gaiety of
Kilkenny.—Was there not 5001. reward offered for the arrest
of Mr. O'Brien ? I had not know* of it that morning, but
since that time I heard that there was a reward of 5001. for
his arrest —On that morning was there not, in point
of fact; a proclamation offering a reward for the arrest of
Mr. O'Brien received at the station at Callan ? There was,
but it was not opened by ms—Was it not after the receipt
of the proclamation thrt you marched ? It was.—Ton were
directed to go to the commute, were you not, and you ex-
pected to be joined by other polies forces : had you any
objection to go ? I went aeconling to my orda—Pray
what newsnapers do you read ? I subscribe to the
lin Evening Post. Had you received the last copy
of the Evening Pool when you went to the commons?
I don't think that was the morning to naive i4—Bu. you
got the Evening Post of the Thursday previously ? I don't
think it had oome.—llad you read it ? I cannot tell ; I only
read the pipers when my duties allow me.—Was it not
blued over the country that morning. that there was a
reward of 6001. offered for the apprehension of Mr. O'Brien,
and were you net told so that day ? I did not hear it that
day at •11.—What? The rest of the polies did not tell you ?
No. Oh, yes • Mr. Cox came up and said, "We have let
M. slip through our fingers." (Laughter.) I did
not remember that when you first asked me the nes
tion.—And were you not may to let the 6001. slip ?
Not the legit, I was discharging my duty.—Would not Mr.
Cox have liked the 5001. ? I think he would. (Laughter.)
—Now on your each, how many people were on the ani-
mas and about the ham? I said there were 3000, and
that is the number which I have heard disintmatesl peaces
pronounce an opinion apes.—But give me the malt of your
own judgment-1 have a peculiar dislike to the opinions of
disinterested pawns. (Laughter.) I think there could
not be less than that number in flank and rear.—
What was the number coming from the com-
mons ? I cannot saw them main in every
direetion.—Wea there a thousand coming in that direction?
When I wheeled—l don't want to know when you
" wheeled." (Laughter.) How many of the 3,000 do you
think came from the mines ? I should say that soma hun-
dreds came from that directions—Wahl you say there were
a thousand ? I should say there were same imindreds.—
, Would you sty_e there were five hundred? I should say
there were.—Wen the five hundred ell armed ? I say it II
impassible to tal; for when arms ere tailed we cannot we
them in a crowd.—Can you tell the difference in a crowd
between men and women ? (Laughter.) I an; I don't
remember seeing any woman in the crowd, bat I saw three
near the house.—Did you shoot them? (Laughter.)
I did not; on the contrary, I gave orders that they should
not be shot.—Now, in the course of all this firing, was there
as much as • serape on the finger of one of the policemen ?
Wore any of them injured ? No, they were not—Did you
know what you were leaving your quarters for that nom
ing ? I did.—Who told you ? I had a written order from
Mr. Blake, county inspector, Knkenny.—Where did you go
on that order ? To the Commas of B —Did you
knew Mr. O'Brien was Were? I did not of my
own knowledge. Had you a sada order for hL
arrest ? I had an order to advance on the plass
for the express purpose of arresting Mr. O'Brien.— ow
far wee We road you turned up at from the Widow
Connick's ham ? About an English mile ; but I am not
sure, as I never was in that part of the cowry before in the
day4ht.—To the beat a your knowledge bow far is it ? I
hard that the Mining Company's yard was about a quarter
or halt a mile from where I tuned to the right.—You said
you saw three women in the crowd. Were there 300 ? No.
—Wore there 30 ? I did not en so many.—Did you see any
Mann ? I had children in the house.—But did you ca
way outside ? No.—What did you do with the children in
the hones ? We kept them • they were vay good hostages.
—How many children were there ? Pive.—Were there any
women in the house ? No.—Did the mother of the children
come for them ? She did, after the firing.—Where did ou
pet the children ? In a owner of the room in a bed.—
Where were you youraell ? la a room on the left flak.—
Was there a bed In it ? There was and the children were
there.—Were you in the bed ? No. (Load laughter).—
Win you swear that you did not lie down ? I did aa.—Did
you sit down ? No.—Did you sit at all daring the dials ?
No.—Did you talcs up the bed? No, but I took up a esr-
bins—Wes than a window in that room ? Then was in
front—Wm the principal Ming not from the beak of the
how ?—I senot answer that question.-1 thought you said
you hard teas there ? I heard double barrels there.—All
that was at the bark of the how? I heard some there,
but these Idea be more in the other pert—Was than a
window lh in the beak part and lower foundation of
the hem ? I think there wee a hill glass door.—Now,
line le me ; was thin only one window In the
beset
pert of the hems? Yea: Wm Ii ia the wen story? Oa
the tit Wain as yes west epteles—*M liherefere any
eon grim the back of the he.. mutt have one In at the
lobby or mean story ? Yes, and emnsmileg the passage
menra.—No penon was injured by shifts through that win-
dow / No.—Were there any iamb of bolls ea the eel&
of the how ? I mend say. I acct emminsd it.—Whst
windows were In front ? There were twe liege windows is
the lower ebre7 Is frost—On yen oath was time ash more
firing from the beak than from the front? I sent not
mower the needon ; part of the time it was inegmeible
to say whether the shots were from within or without.—
It would sot be easy to shoot you where you VIM
where
aif they mad do it. (Lsghter.)-Idle dem% ardi-
peueftwes 'tow walls? No, they did net se net day
ateveats—But, by year firing from within the walls,
some pewee were Med ? Teo, and wanded.—Bic the
firing began, am aimed man asked for peas ? Ta.—And
you samara him, you said ? Just so.—Whet rem wire
yea ia Mesa you Ward the mash " ? On the bit leak ?
Cow, now, you always try to bother ma with year left
flank. (Lon laeglitor.) Willyoa ewer these was scy-
thing don to the windows ? They wen well lesiebsd.—
Were you in any room before the tying began,
Into which Mess were throws ? I renhet my yes
or no. My men tell us I was stank is the
breast wit/ a mate, but I &al remember it. (Ingliter.)
Well, line sever get a wane wend than that you'll be
seemed with glory at a very email met to yon. (Irnee4ldn)
—They toilcaa ball hit the wall above say had bat
I &Int see it. (Muth langluer.)—Did you see with your
en mos any stones thrown befere the firing en of the
hems ? I heard the crash.—Theo get nol=trem
you bat a mineral man ? (Laaghtor.j Oa the
window rid& not Mr. O'Brien have bees sin ? He
might ; bat there was as order to or/ sea sotto tee nalsee
they were fired apes. I did set ip den the Inn time.
I mid if he wets w let him ems mai le ses. I nowt
saw Mr. Smith O'Brien is my EA sea I saw Nor he
=SWIMS Oat —Would you swear there were fifty nob
fired tuft the outside ? I would „• the very brisk fire bawl
about wartkird an honr• be the next third it we
eery sleek, and for the het ;bird it was only an sere red
shot from us. We sever owed firing while we saw an
Am▪ y. (Langeltaer4—And Hay one appeared you fired at
VMS? 014 • we knew ray well dry hell not
cased if they mad ;enew the oenfike.—What did you do
with all the bens that were fired into the lases ? I did not
look for times.—Did you gad a lisle billet ? Oh, I did not
leak km it, eta sineassatly man not find it.—A Jew :
Whim yea seined the men to did seem that
they wee to run ter the house? ; that thn
sheaf OW ft as nisidy as pesibis—Did you theme*
*Ann up his hens for pens ? I did net; I atm saw
him nes to my nowledge.—Was he a onstrymea ? Hie
=raiwas that of a decent farmer or shopkeeper ; he
n frock met on.
Canalise Makeny, pollee constable : I wee one of Mr.
Treat's party at Fanineery. I was se the Widow Wear-
nick's hews on that occasion. 1 wee in the ground floor
parlour. That was on the lift as I went la. There were
eight or ten of my party with me there. The people had
all 'wounded the house, and I observed a man with a