The Express.
London, England, 1853-07-14 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 14, 1853

He hoped in the government bill the principle of popular
representation would be fully and fairly carried out. (Hear.)
The motion was then agrerd to ;and the order for the
committee on the bill wee discharged.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

SEAMEN'S SAVINGS BANKS BILL.

ROUSE OF COMMONS.—WEDNESIMT, JULY 13.
The bow* met at noon.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Lards' Amendments to the Norwich and Spalding
Railway Bill and Electric Telegraph Company of Irelaud
bill were considered and agree . to.
Teter/ READINOS.—Life Association of Scotland Bill,
Limerick Improvement Bill, and Chard Railway Bill.
11111% reported from S- leer C immures, and ordered to he
read a third time : Cestlemaine Estuary Reclamation ; Im-
penal Continental Gas (No. 2); South Wales Railway
(Monmouth); Bills
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
Tau OOTINNIIENI BMA AMIN BILL.—By Mr. L.
BEI WORTH, from Tavistock, Barleston, Godshaw,
0cc,1.1, SufTtlk ; Mr. 11ILLIGAN, from Wieners and
imagers of the Sabbath School College Chapel, Bradford ;
against.
OPINING or THE CItTsTAL PALACE ON SUNDAY*
By Mr. MOODY, front Horstield, theuessterehire, Trinity
St. Philip.. Bristol, and Brumley an I B•w in Middlesex ;
Mr. SPOONER, front w irkinstmen of Ilrenttord and
vicinity,. Bi. Jade, Botha 11 grimy, Greenham, Berks, in-
habitants of Christchurch, Everton, and two other places to
Wilts ; sestina.
SALT IN INDIA.—By Mr. H. BERKELEY, from the
Bristol Chamber of Commerce, objecting to the monopoly
*lsiah by the East India Compsoy, and prayin,g the house,
in the bill relating to the East India Company's charter, to
attends its great injustice
hi StiteilL Barony! —By Mr. 11. BERKELEY, trees the
membersof the medical profession M the city a pima
calling to the recohectios of the house the resolution
In 1310 in favour of Adjutant-Soto-nil in the Royal Hamad
and praying the house to carry at into of et, and to Sego
Anemias. medical utficers in the navy on an equality as In
r ink and pay with the owe clam in the army.
Itrateritsriiix lii AssusitScas BILL —By Mr. L.
GOWER, from Building and Inv. stalest Society in Sat.
fordsbire, against Registration of Assurances Bill ; Goa
trusters and 'stammers of the Potteries' Central Saris.
Bank. Staff irdshire. for certain amendments in that hill.
0i akg PENNT POSTAGE —By Mr. L. HEYWORTMe
from 11l emigrant. on board the emigrant ship Lady Man
taught, in favour of.
Pt MLR: Houma tSCGTLAND) BILL.—By Mr. W. LOCK-
HART, from the Venerable the General Asiembly of tie
Church of Scotland, in favour of.
Ixersirrius or Nusgannts.—By Mr. LOCKHART,
fro.s the Venerable the General Assembly of the Church a
Scotland, and from the Kirk &ssiims of Carlisle and Hama-
ten . Mr. CROSSLEY, from members of the church sad
cangrotation of Wesleyan Methodists at Market Hare
borough; Mr. F. Dt:NDAS, from the Free Church Press
bytery in Orkney ; in favour of.
NATIoNAL Mart taill.—By Sir 0. STRICK LAND, from
Preston, signed by 542, praying that all national disputes
may he referred to arbitration.
SAUK Or INTOXICATING LIQUORS ON SUNDATIL—By
Mr. MILLIGAN, from the inhabitants of Thornton in
public meeting assembled; Mr. L. HEY WORTH (4),
from Louth, against.
LONDON DRAINAOI BILL —By Mr. EVELYN, Ilea
Mr. Morewood, • promoter of the Great London Drainage
Bill, and that it be recommitted.
METROPOLITAN BRIDGES.
Mr. OLIVEIRA renewed his notice tut a committee as
metropolitan bridges, dropped by the count out last night, for
Tuesday next, the 19th inst.
SAVINGS BANKS.
Mr. OLIVEIRA gave notice that tomorrow he would
ask the Chaecellor of the Exchequer when it is intended
to proceed with the Savings Books Bill; if the government
intend to carry that measure as now air ended, or whether
any alterations will be made in those clauses which relate
to the liability of trustees, rate of interest to be allowed to
depositors, and some other points to which Mr. Oliveira has
called the attention of the right hon. gentleman.
IMPROVEMENTS IN NAVIGATION.
Sir R. INOLIS wished to put a question to the hon. sad
gallant gentleman who, in the absence of the right hes.
baronet the First Lord, represents I the Admiralty Dian,.
ment. It would be known to many hon. gentlemen that
about two years ago Lieut. Minium, of the United States
navy, devised a great improvement in navigation by his dia.
reveries and observations he made as to the depths, clan
rents, and temper.ture of the ocean, and by mew of
which voyages bad been reduced by one-half. Lieut. Mon.
say's invention had been adopted by the United States
navy, and the government of that country had remelt-
mended it to the consideration of the government of this,
and to those of other maritime nations. The question he
had to ask was, whether the government, having re-
ferred this plan to the Royal Society, and having
received from the council of that body • strong
recommendation in favour of its adoption, and having
been made acquainted with the fact that the British Anon
elation bad simultineously concurred in a similar recess.
mendation, were ptcpared to adopt the suggestion of the
United States' government, end to co-operate with them
in carrying out the invention ? No doubt it, ai'option would
involve some expense. but, compared with the important
objects to be gained, that expense would be so trifling as to
be scarcely worth consideration. (Hear, hear.)
Admiral BERKELEY, in reply to his hon. friend's
question, begged to state that the government were quite
prepared to take their part in env well devised plan to carry
out the object in view. And, with regard to the royal navy,
most of the observations required as to the state of the cur-
rents, depths, and temperature of the ocean had already
been directed to be ma e. But, as to the merchant service,
there were great doubts and difficulties on the subjegg, and
when he mad that in thermometers alone the adoffion of
the proposed plan would occasion an expenditure of 3,500!.,
sad that after the thermometers were issued there were
great doubts if they would be of much avail, he thought
there was no very great prospect of i a being generally
adopted, at least for the present.
COUNTY RATES AND EXPENDITURE BILL.
Mr. M. OIBSON wished before the order of the day for
smumiag the committee on this bill was read, to put a
question to the noble lord the Home Secretary urea the
subject. He observed that as usual when this bill stood
upon the paper, there were a great number of hon. gentle-
men on the beaches opposite who had come down doubtlew
to assist him in making this bill as perfect as possible—
(" hear, later," and a laugh)—but before they pro-
*NNW* le Motitier the clauses, he should like to hear from
OM Retie Med whether there was any truth in a rumour
tact had seeded him, that the government, being in favour
alas of the measure' would, if it were deferred
te aaetle meden, be prepared themselves to bring in • bill
thegmy ewe that pdmigple, and devise such machinery so
might ho wasessisy Sur that purpose. (Hear, hear.) If
Heat wideor um son heeded, and he had an assurance of
that kind hem de wide herd, it might then be proper to
change Ma MUM Si de bedams set down for the day.
Inn* PALMIUTOOII eirtaisly thought that although
Isla:Att he.. Mad idled kis friends, the hon. gentlemen WILLIAM WHEELER . late.
R YELP, aged 53, was y
Shure sin Wedmieday to • inn of coarerrasione,
giser-X—tssesdege were wet dimly to be attended with any indicted for feloniously forging and uttering various
ewe& ia the pnseat maims. ("Hear," sad •
receipts, purporting to be acknowledgments on the
ql.1)11 Tbseellate he • obliged to his right boa. friend
Ise Whasalen that be would postpone issuing tumulus part of depositors in the Savings Bank at Newport,
of them he the Mare. (Hear, hear.) Aid he thought he Isle of Wight, for sums of money ; also, as the regal
was Is a psdies se enable his right bon. friend to do so on
lie mew dram. (Hear, bear) The house having more tells us, for stealirg certain sums of money frank**
the. waft Ahmed the principle of popular representation, funds of the bank. The total sum of the prise:an
larsiled t° the
"lull rates,►and the
reetemeet having defalcations, which had extended over a period el Ilm desired *key aimed is that ptincip e, hewn prepared,
Inds right w frirall shsught fit to drop this bill, to say, years, amounted to upwards of 8,0001. Here, dila,
era
die Pere of the Sengemakthal is II" neat eeseles they is the cue of a man, placed in his pen-
would propose to parliemsd sob • measure as they might
think fit le reemmewd, amid apes the principle of liar position by the agency of trustees, making a
represswiesies In sagest le meaty item (Cheers.) luxurious living out of the poor persons whose in-
M SIB wakeless. siemmostawswe when the
seder a the dap was sailed es. be emit gag* dist it be tenet he was supposed to represent. The poor cot-
reed, la order that it might b• andisel=rar); tiger who brought his five shillings weekly to the
—ma the warm* that tko gewsewmeas
&stakes ee being in a bill es ebe mojectmit maim y as' bank, and thought himself lucky in being enabled
Os the action that the eider be read and diddierged, to find so trustworthy a guardian for his money as
Sir J. PAK INGTOM was glad to boar that they were Mr. Yeda, little thought that the deposit would be
wet again le be brought dews se take part in these Wed-
nesday sesmorseisfause dab beers duration, sad which at applied to the purchase of a bottle of port for the se-
this Period of the tilhila dald hardly beThiastied as other twin's table : 8004 a year did this functionary extract
sesteetile. arapossiblyt "49%4 hsileinislibal:etthiry .eoisaumuld whresulut int any" treat the hardy earned savings of Peer Men, womilis
nederial magma Wag sleds with the bill. (Deer, hear.) and children. Poor mothers deprived themselves d
He was else fled le hoar from the answer of the noble little articles of luxury or comfort, fathers of the
lord that he bed wire of the mutton of the Foreign
OS.. late the of domestic affairs, and that be means of relaxation with boon companions, whole
bed guarded his prendee with that reserve which was a& families of a certain portion of ease or gratification,
elesee7that whaetiZeliii:iiiiimeleallelleseee... p,,,. lip...de had
.4.1 always contended in order that Mr. YELP should enjoy all the luxuries
imagist*, have tin_ infest and authority of t of life. It would be curious to know how many
seaesioe, sad be tbesight even his right hon. friend (Ms. families have contributed to make u the
Gibson) muss haw heeeme onaviseed by this time haw p
hopeless ix wee heap, bagepeagest member se pen e leesesee amount of eight hundred pounds per annum,
e/ mesh mlinkedle as this was through the house. (Rehr) which the actuary has expended on his private
Bat he holed as she sole lord bad consented (and, under
all the eiresumbeasee, wisely consented) to take up the nib- enjoyment. It would be as distressing as curious
jut ia seeder asesioe, that he would not hold it to be se- to know what necessaries of life have been sacrificed
semi yse prescribe fee all Ilaglaad • measure founded daring a period of ten years in order that Mr. YELP
apes the ems el Laseeehire only, and that he would set
repose mi=generally a remedy, which, however ap. might be able to obtain "all the delicacies of the
I he t° one past of the system, would be in- season." Thousands were toiling that this man
We la_wpsw tb • whole. He was eonvineed the noble - .
gr
imsuid Sad the subject one or considerable difficulty I might lap Inoue luxuries.The range of o ences
lf in 1 •
Thu he awes te deal with the details, and he hoped he may contain examples of a more atrocious nature than
'meld egmftasl it with that caution which he had ea' I this, but none of more thorough heartlessness. The
hibited in mower tinday.
Mr. FBISHIPIELD exorcised a hope that the noble I man for a period of ten years was robbing the most
bed wadi wet overlook the difference between the ad- helpless portion of his countrymen in order that he 1
releimsdell et ilia county rates and interference with the I himself might obtain his guilty and infamous gratia-
system.
Mr. V. SCULLY suggested that the proposed bill should i I
cations.
be applicable so Ireland; and dwelt upon the inconvenience I But while we look with a just horror upon the
and waste of time consequent upon having separate bills for 1
carrying out the same objects in England and Itelabd. I conduct of the criminal, it is scarcely possible to re-
Captain SCOBELL also thought that a great waste of i Praia from passing a heavy verdict upon the conduct
time was occasioned by bringing forward separate bills for lof those whose business it was to keep Op WON the three kingdoms upon the same subject. With re- .
gird to the suggestion of the right hon. baronet (Sir 1. : sort of supervision over his deeds or raisdooda.
P•hillittoo), that the noble lord should use caution in deal- 1 Ten years is a long time for an unchal-,
ing with this subject, be would, on the contrary, recom-
mend
boldness, and urge upon the noble lord not to deal , lenged impunity in the commission of crimes
with it in a niggardly spirit—(bear, hear)—but that he The Grecian princes required no more than ten years
would endeavour to do justice to those who paid the rates
as well as to those who administered the Stade. (Hear.) to take Troy, and although they had their hand.
Mr. BARROW trusted that the noble lord when he re. full of business during the whole time, it is not to
moved from the statute book the anomalies which now ehe- be supposed that they would have allowed them-
-scanned the county rates, would do so fully and fairly, and
all au" the meatus • mere mockery, ( lese, beer.) He selves to be made the victims of a dishonest treasurer
weld est agree that Laneashire alone was iaterasted an the during one-half of that period. What were the
Mews of the present system, nor could he undentead whY
aa 'modernly that extended to ell England should be treated Trustees about during the time that Mr. YELP was
as bade, reference only to a giggle county. (Hear, hear.) living at free quarters upon the poor and needy,

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The order for the— committee on this bill havias been
read,
Captain SCOUELL said his name had lam placed on the
back of the bill, together with the Melee of tan other hos.
members who were nut present, bee be know nothing about
the contents, end had received se directions.
Mr. W. COWPER said under thew eircumstaneeshe
I moved that the bill be committed that day thros months.
The bill ass altogether nnueceseary as its object was fully
petrel& d for by the act 4 and 5 Wm IV., under which sea-
men might remit to the ikecountant-Onseral of the Navy
such ..utos as they desired to invest from time to time, which
he deposited for them. . _

The amendment was plat and carried, and the bill nega-
tived.

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