The Express.
London, England, 1848-04-07 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 7, 1848.

victualler.
EDWARD TIIOWAS ECHLIN°, Burling-gardens, Black-
heath-hill, carpenter.
Aux HENDEIHION, Birmingham, china dreary.
°SORGE LLOYD, Shrew.bury. ironmonger,
Gunton BATE, Dudley, Worcestershire, chain manu-
facturer.
Jolter liawcocx, Earl Shilton, Lei
elbuurn,cestenhire, hosier.
WILLIAM EDWARD COPE, M Derbysnire, draper.
WILLIAM HARWOOD, Bristol, merchant.
WILLIAM !louses, Wootton-under-Edge, Gloucester-
shire, licensed victualler.
WILLIAM STOTIIERT, ()FORGE WOOD, JOHN WHITE
LITTLE, JOHN COTTLE SPENDER, WILLIAM BRUNTON,
JOSEPH RUSHER, and WILLIAM HENRY BUCKLAND, Ab-
church-lane, City, iron manufacturers.
JOAEPIR WHITE, Exeter, painter.
JOHN SLOMAN WEST New Wortley,
attorney.
JOHN sloarirr, jun., New Wortley, Yorkshire, flax-

dinner.
WILLIAM Pres, Liverpool, licensed victualler.
Jumst STOCIDALE, Liverpool, soap•manufacturer.
THOUS DIOLANDS, Monk Wcarmoutb, grocer.
SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS.
Jour; LAIN°, Glasgow, commission agent.
THOMAPI CLAPPERTON, Glasgow, commission agent.
WALTER JUST, Arbroath, merchant.
'AVG ALLAN and CAnswELL, Paisley, tailors.
DAVID KIEL Glasgow, glazier.
ROBERT IirINTOAII, Airdrie, shoemaker.
CATHERINE Roona, Dundee, insurance broker.
THOMAS and DAVID BRYAN, Catrine, Ayrshire, mer-

chants.
ANDREW liscaznts, Glasgow, accountant and iron
master.

iNT for the West ending Ai.rlll.
LTIIEIT.
Government Debt E 11,015,100
I Other Sc.eurittet..,— 2,944.90
Gold Coln and DOM 12,018.761
Laver Bunion 1,fM,93
=Mr

DANK OF ENGLAND.—Accor
E!!!

Neal bes4hl ......

£.512.73.1

prorrtewr3. °solo ...
Batt . . t0t11,345
nititifttlfitrititt
Errhert, Shy. Banks.
Commit. or National
Debt, and Dir. Acct.) 7,140.125
Other Dtpostts 9,561354
&Ten Mild OthUßlllr 9-2.;,,w2
and I r. 1841. £36.2007856

tARTIII3T.
Goremmeet Securitlei
linclud. Deed WOOS
Other Sweetie* ...... 12.930.tri
Notes . . 10,1314,870
Gold sad Silver Colo.. 668.131

434,23v0k
M. MdREIIIAIX. Chid Cagier.

SUGAR.—The avenge price of auger, the produce of the
British piellegriaal in America, computed from the returns made in
the week eluding the 4th day of April 1848, is 225. 10d. per cwt
Sugar the produce of the Mauritius is 21s. 20. per cert. Sugar the
produce of the East Indire is 24e. 04d. per ea t. Tbe average price of
the three foregoing deacriptions, Jointly, is 22a. sd. per cwt.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORD6.—TSURSDAT, APRIL 6.
The Logo CITANCELLOR TOOk hil seat at 6 o'clock.
PUBLIC BPSINEML
BROOND READlNG.—Prortyl:ax
Coxsirtikm—siamp Duties MWmilatton
PRISONS.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a report of the
inspectors of privies for the home district.
BIRTH OF A PRINCESS.—HER MAJESTY'S AN-
SWER TO THE ADDRESS.
The LORD STEWARD read the following answer to the
adieus of their lordship, congratulating her Majesty on the
birth of a princess
I have received your affectionate and loyal address with
the truest satisfaction. I sincerely thank you for your Mae
gratulation, on the birth of a priacess, and for the regard
which you express on the occasion for my person and family.r4
Her Majesty's most gracious answer war then ordered t•
be entered on the minutes.
DIVISION OF A LARGE LIVING IN IRELAND.
The Earl of St. GERMANS, who was scarcely audible,
was understood to ask why a certain large living in the
diocese of Osoiry, in Ireland, had not yet been divided, in
compliance with the provisions of an act paned for that pur-
pose in 1845 ?
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE fully agreed in the pro-
priety of making a division of so large a living ; but it was
the
impossible to do so until some pending question
between
Bishop of °seer', and the dean had been decided ?
A few observations were made by Earl FORTEACTE, which
were quite inaudible in the winery.
ADJOURNMENT FOR THE EASTER RECESS.
In answer to a question from Lord STANLEY, as to the
period of the adjournment of the house for the Easter recta*,
in which he expressed a hope that the bill for the admission
of Jews into parliament would not be discussed in their lord-
ships' house before the Easter holidays,
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE raid he was not prepared
to announce when he should move the adjournment, and,
therefore, any statement he might make might mislead their
lordships. Ile thought, however, that the Jewish Disabili-
I eke bill should nut be allowed to stand in the way
usual adjournment of the house for the Easter recess. of the
PROPERTY TAX BILL.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, in moving the second
reading of this bill, said he did not labour under the difficulty
of having any new proposition. to make. This measure, familiar
as it might Le, was, however, of a most important character;
and it was necessary to state the grounds on which it was in-
dispensable that it should be renewed. That might, perhaps,
best be done by stating the finances necessary to pro-
vide for the exigencies of the country, and the state
of the public revenue. Ile would shortly state the
amount of the expenditure. In looking at the financial
condition of the country they must regard the immense ob-
ligation. to which they were bound, in order to preserve the
national faith. They were also obliged to make that pro-
vision which was necessary for the defence of the country in
I the present state of Europe. The noble marquis then went
into the details of the public expenditure as estimated for
the ensuing year, and stated that it amounted to 51,250,0001.,
to meet which, independent of the income tax. the othe
branches of revenue were estimated to yield 16,050,000/.,r
end with the addition of that tax the amount would be mode
up to 53,100,0001. Ile was averse to adopting the principle
of direct, us oeposed to indirect, taxation, because he thought
the latter ought to be looked to as the foundation of the sys-
tem of taxation, enabling, as it did, every individual to ad.
just his portion of such taxes to his taste and means. (Hera.)
It was thought better to provide for the whole of the ex-
penditure in the first instance, even if there should
be a surplus, and with the risk of some midi
lion to the taxation more than might be absolutely
necessary. The expenses of the current, would not, in some
particulars, be as great as they were in the last year. The
Kaffir war had now ceased, owing to the gallant exerions of
Sir H. Feininger and Sir Harry Smith, and an expenditure
of 1,100,0001. would therefore be saved. There had also
been an excess in the estimate of the naval expenditure of
lest year of 245,0001. And he further hoped that in some
other branches of expenditure there would be a decrease in
the current year. If, however, the resources of the country
should be deficient, or it should be necessary from events on
the continent of Europe to call upon parliament to provide
for any addition to the taxation of the country (which
that, he
believed would not he the case), he was quite sure
whenever the national faith or safety of the country were
regarded with reference to the naval and military means
necessary to enable this kingdom to maintain her proper
position in the civilised world, parliament would readily
grant whatever might be required for purposes of such para-
mount importance. (Hese, hear.) The noble marguis,who
was throughout very indistinctly heard in the gallary, on.
eluded he moving the second reading of the bill.
Lord STANLEY did not think it necessary to follow the
noble marquis into the statements he had m .de, because,
agreeing with him in the necessity of maintaining public
credit, and placing the country in a state of national defence,
he believed, with these two paramount objects in view,
there was not one of their lordships prepared to oppose the
continuance of the income tax for a limited period. (Rear,
hoar.) 11cr Majesty's government had yielded, and were
bound to yield, to the opinion of the country, expreu in 'ed
the other hours of parliament, protesting against any aug- '
mentation of direct taxation . (Hear, hear.) He believed
that the opposition to such further ineresie was founded on
the danger of showing a government how easily
they
could ,
raise money by increasing a tax of so direct and inquisitorial
a character. (Hear, hear.) He thought the expenditure
on the Kaffir wee had been overrated in amount, as the I
sum of 1,100,0001. extended over two years. At first, the
war was not conducted with success, and it was thought
necessary to recall a most distinguished officer (Sir Pere- '
grine Maitland), which he knew had been a
cause of great pain ant pecuniary sacrifice to him.; I
but he hoped that no reflection was intended to
be cast on the character of that distinguished
officer. (Hear, hear.) lie believed their lordships were
unanimous in hoping, with the noble marquis, that peace
might be maintained by this country, and he also thought
they concurred in the determination which he hoped the
government had formed, namely, not to be drawn into war,
except by the extreme necessity of maintaining our national
independence or honour. (Rear, hear.) Yet he believed '
that some of their lordships would be of opinion that an un-
due provision had been made under existing circumstances
for our naval and military establishments. (Hear, hear,
from both sides of the house.) As to the expenditure, it
must be borne in mind that there was at e
of 1,500,0001.
advanced for Ireland last year, which would not enter into
the expenditure of the present. He had never thought that
it would be in the power of the government just yet to do
without a tax which yielded an income of five millions. If '
the revenue improved in the ordinary branches, as he hoped
it would, he thought the House of Commons ought to exer-
cise great vigilance in preventing the government
from hastily and inconsiderately reducing other taxes,
the continuation of which for a Ignited period
(for which the property tax was imposed) might en-
able the government to repeal, and certainly would
justify the parliament in demanding, the abolition of this in-
quisitorial tax. Under such circumstances it might not be
continued beyond the period for which it was now sought to
impose it. lf however, the House of Commons were not
I determined to, keep up the produce of the revenue to an
amount equal to the expenditure—if they consented to take
off other taxes when a surplus occurred—it was idle and use-
less to ray that this would be a temporary tax ; for the coun-
try would find that, by a deficiency of revenue from other
quarters, they would be permanently saddled with this most
dangerous system of taxation. (Hear, hear.) He looked
upon direct taxation with great jealousy, but he believed
that, under all circumstances, the country could not be
placed in a state of security, and the national faith main-
' tuned, without the re-imposition of this tax at the pre-
sent period. The time, however, he believed, was not
distant when it would be found that we had advanced too
far is the reduction of indirect taxation, and he believed that
by vigilant economy in the expenditure, and by an increase
of indirect taxation, the nation would recover from its pre-
sent perils, and they might, without oppressing commerce,
or injuriously affecting the country, raise a sufficient amount
by retracing some of the steps which had been so injudi-
ciously taken—a sufficient amount of indirect taxation to
enable the government to dispense with a tax so objection
able and dangerous in principle as an income and property
tax—(hear,hear)—a tax, he might add, which public mani-
festation had shown to be so justly obnoxious to public cen-
sure and oppressive to the community.
Earl GREY said the noble marquis (Lansdowne) did not
intend to cast any reflection on the late governor of the
Cape. In advising her Majesty to recall Sir Peregrine Mait-
land, he (Earl Grey) could not conceal from himself that the
information which he had received from various quarters
had led him to the conclusion that that gallant officer was
not fully equal to the extraordinary difficulties with which
he had to contend at the commencement of the war. He
did not apply tide observation to the military operations of
the late governor of the Cape ; he certainly had not exer-
cised a sufficient control over the expenditure. He was fully,
aware of the difficulties with which he had had to contend,
but that did not alter his conviction. All the views which
he (Earl Grey) had entertained at that period had since
been confirmed by the information which he had received.
Sir Henry Pottiusier had promised a vast amount of idol,
matins, which had not yet arrived ; but from what had
transpired it was quite evident that, contrary to the wish
and orders of Sir P. Maitland, t ere had existed a great
amount of abuse in the c,lony which required to be checked.
Lord HATHERTON could say that while in office he had
no reason to entertain any but the most favourable opinion
of Sir P. Maitland in reference to his conduct in the Cape of
Good Hope,
The bill was then read a second time, and
Their lordships adjourned at 25 minutes before 7 o'clock.

ROUSE OF COMMONS.—THURSDAY, APRIL 6.
The Sr Emma took the chair at 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
THIRD READINGS.—Kettering amall Tenemetata Rating; Lei-
cester Cemetery; Bills.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS.—By an HON. Man.., from Norwich, against the
duties payable oa, coals.—Sir J. Warandar, from LOW rate-payers of
Preston, complaining of the inrguality of the rates in the fevered
parishes of that town, and praying for the abolition of settlement
and a national rate.—Sir G. lidadeacsifo, front Preston. for the par-
don of Frost, Williams, and Jones.—Mr. Fosrza, from Berwick, com-
taining of the operation of the nese lawn—Mr. GARDNER, final
wester, and Mr. lityourv, from Ashton, for thepardon of Facet, Sea.
—Mr. F. M.o.'s, from a free church in Scotland, against the Diplo-
matic Relations with Rome Bill ; also from a place in Peebles, com-
plaining of the influence of fictitious voles in elections.
COMMIITEE.—MuLny and Marine Mutiny Bills.
NOTICES OF MOTION.—Lcas Roots Elaerroy.—Mr. Hoare, on
an early dav, to call the atteatioa of the house to the evidence given
before the Lyme lie& election committee, and to move that the
Attorney-General b 7 directed to prosecute Mt. Attwood for the prac-
tices proved against him.
- Earouta is IRLIAND.—Mr. BM; after the recess, to move the
following resolutions: "That the interests of the United Kingdom
• urgently &mead tnat prompt and decided InOlaintrell he takes by this
how., for the removal of the causes of just complaint an tne part of
the people of Ireland, as promised by both bonsai of parliament in

delis in order to convince them that parliament ill, without (byre-uer
y, apply itself to the refits. of their vtevances; first,
movig the burden of the church establishment in Ireland. due
regard being had to existing into ; secondly, by placing the par-
liamentary electoral sultrage en the worm footing as that ef this
country, and by passing • satisfactory bill providing for the registra-
tion oi voters; thirdly, by granting muoicipal insututMna for the go-
vernment of citlm, boroughs, and town; based ass the same pried
pies se those of the eine*. boroughs, and town, if' England ;
fourthly, by and the vend jury laws, so es to prevent their un-
(sir begrulg, and generally to equalise their pressure."
STATZ or sae f.:orsvisv.--ter 0. Gary, to-morrow (this day), to
move foe leave to bring in • bill for the better security ol the crown
and government of the united kingdom.
Marcracruar. or Yew leuresu.---Mr. J. °Tri(ssic gave no-
tice of a questioa which he should put to-morrow (this day) to the
Chief Secretary for Ireland, respecting • report which appeared in the
public papers of a came at the polior.rittlie in Dublin, by which it
walk& appear that orders for the manufacture of pikes had been given
by a subordinate of the police force there.
Tua IiONYWIAB FORTS.—Mr. Hone, to ark to-morrnw (thin day) if
it sere true that a number of her Majestyb
vesseabips bed attacked two
forts in Honduras, with lo.• of Pfe, whether la had been sent by
the governor from Jamaica, and whether those hostilities were autho-
rised by the government at home.
LIVERPOOL DOCK BILL.
On the motion of Mr. Totteneenz, it was ordered—
" That the evidence given before the committees of this
house, in 1814 and 1846, en the Liverpool dock bills, be re-
ferred to the committee on group 10 of private hills."
MSY'S ANSWER To THE ADDRESS OF
THE HOUSE ON TIIE BIRTH OF A PRINCESS.
Mr. LASCELLES, comptroller of the royal household,
appeared at the bar, and stated that he had presented to I.er
Majesty the address agreed to by the house ou occasion of
the birth of a princess, to which her Majesty had been
pleased to return the following most gracious answer ;
" I return you my hearty hanks for your dutiful and
affectionate address. I cordially receive your congratu'ations
on tyre irth of another princess, and anute you that I grate-
fully eive every additional proof of your loyal attachment
to my person and family."
PETIIION 1.11.0 M THE " NATIONAL
CONVENTION."
Mr. O'CONNOR said he had a petition to preftent front
forty-nine " rept:esentst ives of the people in national colleen.
tiers assernided, prayieg the house to pass the " People's
Charter" into a law.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said there was something
in the heading of that petition, which led him to think that
it could not be received. The petitioners described '
them-
selves as "the representatives of the people in rational con-
vention assembled." He could not see what right they could
have to that title.
Mr. O'CONNOR would remind the house that during the
administration of Sir It. Peel several petitions had been pre.
aerated by the national convention, which was then sitting,
for carrying out the very same objects. The law specified the
number of delegates who might so meet ; and the numberof
the petitioner', being forty-nine, wastwithin thespecified limit;
it had never been greater. On one occasion, they had met
and sat for seven months ; and several of their petitions had
been received during Sir It. Pec eel's administration. There-
fore, he hoped that that precedent would be adhered to in
the present case.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said he had no desire to
interpose between the presentation and the reception of a
petition; hut he hoped the hon. member would not press the
presentation until it could be ascertained whether the prece-
dent, he had alluded to were applicable to this particular
case. The objection was not to the numbers of the delegates,
but to the title they gave th.mselves 01 " national conven-
tion." He hoped the press ntation of the petition would not
be pressed.
Mr. O'CONNOR consented to withdraw the petition for
the present.
ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.
Mr. HORSMAN said he would take the first opportunity
of calling the attention of the house to the appointment of a
select committee "to inquire into the composition and
management! of the ecclesiastical commivioris for England
and Wulf'," which hail her n moved on the preceding day,
by the hen. member for Mahon (Mr. F, Denison), as an en-
tirely unopposed committee, and the appointment of which
he (Mr. Borman) had seen with great surprise. He thought
the hon. member had committed an error in bringing this
forward as an unopposed motion.
The SPEAKER sold, if the hon. member thought pepper,
he could give notice to move, when the hon. member for
Melton moved the appointment of the committee, that the
order for its appointment he discharged.
Mr. HORSMAN Wiriest. d his intention to do so.
SUGAR AND COFFEE PLANTING CMMITTEE.
Lord 0. BENTINCK brought up the fir tareport of this
vuninittee.
ruE BISHOP OF EXETER
ORE . AND THE REV. Mit.
S
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL, in answer to a string of
questions from Mr. Cowax, said that his only knowledge of
this case was from what had appeared in the public prints.
He could not say what would be done by the Bishop of
Exeter in the next term. Unque,tionable the law would he
allowed to take its course as it stood. It won not his inten-
tion to introduce a bill on the. subject, as the whole question
of ecclesiastical jurisdiction would soon come under the con-
sideration of the house.
JOINT-S*l OCK COMPANIES BILL.
Mr. HUME asked when this important measure was
likely to be proceeded with?
Mr. M. GIBSON said in the present state of the public
business it was quite impossible for him to pay.
BRITISH GUIANA AND CEYLON.
Lord O. BENTINCK asked the Under Secretary of
State for the Colonies whether it was true that the Court of
Pol y
ic of British Guiana had unanimously resolved to post-
pone voting the supplies until the 15th of May, on account
of the distressed state of the colony ? also, whether the
emancipated population, who had struck for wages at Christ-
mas last, had not yet returned to work ? and whether little
of the sugar crop had been reaped, and little labour was
going forward in tlie colony ? llle had another question with
reference to Ceylon. Could the hon. gentleman inform the
house what was the balance of account between the revenue
and the expenditure of that colony for 1847 ?
Mr. HAWES said it was quite true tat the Court of
Policy had suggested the postponement of h
the estimates till
the 15th of May, to which the soya rnor had readily assented,
believing that by that period the colony would lie in a better
condition. The governor stated that the Creole population
had not yet returned to their work, but that the incendiary
fires had ceased, mainly owing to the vigorous conduct of
the government. With regard to Ceylon, the quarterly re-
turns were made up to June last, and he was perfectly
ready to lay them on the table of the house.
MODE OF CONDUCTING T
H I
OUSIE I'ÜBLIC BUSINESS
T.
Mr. OSBORNE said he rose to call the attention of the
house to a circumstance which he thought very nearly con-
cerned its privilege. It was, in fact, a matter of privilege,
and one very deeply affecting the independence of the house.
It was probably hardly known to the generality of memben
present that on the preceding day the following resolution
had been moved and carried " That at the time fixed for
the commencement of public business, on days on which
orders have precedence of notices of motion, and alter the
notices of motion have been disposed of on all other days,
Mr. Speaker direct the clerk at the table to read the orders
of the dry without the question being put." This resolu-
tion would have the effect of stopping the expression of opi-
nion, on the motion for read .rag the order of the day, by
every independent member of the house.
The SPEAKER—The hon. member cannot bring this
forward now as a matter of privilege. It is a resolution of
the house.
Mr. OSBORNE said he was in the hands of the house. If
he could not bring the question forward as a matter of privi-
lege, be would certainly move, on the first opportunity, that
the order be rescinded.
REGIUM DONUM IN IRELAND.
Mr. SCULLY wished to put some questions to the chief
secretary for Ireland respecting the refusal of the regium
datum to a prrsbvt rian clergyman in that country.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE was understood to say that the
refusal had been owing to his non-complianc with certain
forms and regulations which were complied with by every
other presbyterian minister in Ireland. With regard to
the second question, there was not the slightest foundation

for the story.
CHARTIST DEMONSTRATION.
Sir J. WALSH wished to ask of the right hon. gentleman
the Secretary of State for the Horne Department whither
her Majesty's ministers had received any information of en
intended meeting of a body of chartists, which was to take
place on Kenaington.common on Monday next, and who
were to form a numerous procession from thence to this
house, for the ostensible purpose of presenting a petition in
favour of the five points of the charter; and secondly, whe-
ther her Majesty's ministers had directed their attention to
the circumstances, and were prepared to take those measures
which might be necessary to et cure the independence of that
house, and prevent it from being overawed by such meeting,
and also to afford protection to the loyal and peaceable inha-
bitants of the metropolis
Sir 0. GREY said he held in his hand at that moment a
notice, published yesterday, and signed by three individuals,
one of whom was the secretary of the Chartist Association,
to the effect stated by the boo. gentleman. Her Majesty's
government having their attention called to this notice, and
htl:evyingirreeccteei;
eadnoottrer
to
onfobrme information
whihwtholusldmbeeetin
pub-
lished and circulated in half an hour over the metropolis and
the other parts of the kingdom, stating that the law officers
of the crown had been conoulted, and that by statute such
assemblage and processi n was illegal, and warning all loyal
sad peaceable subjects to abs sin from taking part is any
such procession, and calling on them to give their aid to the
constituted authorities for the maintenance of peace and
order, and the prevention of disturbance. (Cheers.) 1
Mr. F. O'CONNOR said that the right hon. gentleman
would entainly be taking the people by surprise, because he
could show precedents for such a procession. In 1831, when
many of the colleagues of the right hon. baronet were on the
side of the people, a procession of 100,000:or 150,000 came to
that house to ask for reform. Again, in 1831, 100,000 men
proce,ded to the bowie in behalf of the Dorchester labourers,
and a very sho7t time since • procession of sailors came to
that honse to petition against the navigation laws, whilst
that house was meting. The persons who signed the petition
for .he people's charter bad that day come to a resolution
that every man of them would on that day act as a special
constable for the preservation of the peace, and the taking
into custody all persons who violated public order or the
rights of property. It was not their intention to
come to the door of that house, but to march over
Westminster-bridge. He had never in ell his life at
tempted to palm a falsehood on the house, and he
co uld
overaw state there was not the least intention' to obstruct
or e. The procession would be peaceable, and he for one
would never consent to join in any that was not. It had been
always granted to march in ptocesaion when the procession
was peaceable, and he believed it was a constitutional right.
He hoped the right hon. baronet would not go further than
to preserve the peace, and no person would go further for
that object than he (Mr. O'Connor). He trusted, there.
fore, that the people would be allowed to come down, not
for the purpoee of overawing the house, but before the house
I sat. He would hold himself unworthy of • seat in that