The Express.
London, England, 1847-07-09 00:00:00

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be called epos p sonsidert out 68 clauses, but 790, as bed
been Meted, it would be impossible to go one step twitter.
Very early in the dismission he (Mr. Healey) had called at-
tondos to this fad, and the noble lord the member for Pal-
!Ella:its Earl of Liao°ln) had demenstrated that by the
wal by the government of two ileums from the Ital.
It mould be wholly inoperative in large tombs; sod the
sable lord rasommemded the governammt to oaths the
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measure to provisions foe preliraiiiry inquiries in the country,
with a dew to satisfactory legislation on the subject. This
=dun had not been acceded to, and the government
raided with a bill, the clauses of which would involve
not'ax weeks, but six months, in their discussion. He was
glad, however, that it was now withdrawn ; for he was con-
vinced, if it bad passed, it would have thrown the whole
country into confusion; and its impractical enactment% would
have lei Loan extent of litigation which would have damaged
the cause of sanitary reform by disgusting the public with
the question. He hoped, however, next session, that a better
considered measure would be brought forward. The noble
lord at the heed of the Woods and Forests had been hurried
on by the kindness and benevolence of his dispodtion, and
had failed in consequence of having attempted too much.
(Hear, hear.) At the same time, he, for one, must offer his
thanks to the noble lord fur the great courtesy he hod dis-
played during the troublesome opposition he had met with
in the discussion of this bill. (Hear, hear.)
Lord MORPETH said be need not mean the house that
he had not become a party to the postpoamment of this bill
without great personal disappointment, sad much regret
on public grounds--(hear, hear)—but he bad felt, during
the progress of the measure, a painful consdoesnees that the
period at which it was possible for him to sell attention to
the details of the bill occurred at such a. Maw of the swims
as must necessarily prove a great drawback te the inewas
whirls he thought the measure deserved. However, as long
as there appeared to be any hope or chaste of it fah
a law in the course of this session, be should =gig it
to the utmost ; but, after the experience of the two last
days on which the bill was considered—on Monday, whim
they only got through two clauses. and on Tuesday, whon
they only got through one clause—he could no longer retain
any hope that he should be able to pus this measure through
both houses of parliament this year. Under such circum-
stance., he did not feel himself justified in asking the hawse
to prolong a vexatious struggle. (Hear, hear.) Is the
course of the present discussion various suggestion bad
been thrown out, and he was not prepared to deny that a
subject so extensive and complicated as this, which be would
not call (as had the hen. member for Warwicksithe) a
4. serial ...elution," shookl ea...warily invite much discus
non. He could not think that if the gerernment had con-
fined its legislation to the first clauses, which went to esta-
blish preliminary liquifies, they would have disarmed oppo-
sition. On the contrary, it was said, even now, they were
seeking to increase the patronage of the government,
and if they had only taken powers to appoint officers
to conduct these preliminary investigations, they might have
lain open to that charge and imputation. (Hear, hear.)
He could not object to the spirit in which the hon. and
learned member for Newark (Mr. Stewart) had addressed
the house; to him for his suggestions he (Lord Morpeth)
felt grateful ,• but, in jetties to the very. able and
keened gentleman who had assisted him in drawing
this bill, he must state that the incorporation of the acts
of parliament in this bill would not bare led to any practi-
cal inconvenience. In answer to the appeal made to him by
the hon. member for Lymingtou (Mr. Macki anon), he (Lord
Morpsth) had no hesitation in saying that the government
would consider it to be their duty to bring forward the bill
at an early period next session, and in a manner that would
enable the house to give it full consideration. (Hear, hear.)
He should think it his duty to take into his consideration,
durisg the recess, all the objections which had been raised,
and the suggestions which had been made ; in this he could
not say that he should have a very easy task. One hon.
member told him that in the next bill he ought to include
the metropolis and the City of London. It had never been
his intention to except the City of London frem the opera-
tion of the bill. (Hear, hear.) He had made a COMMULICI-
tion to the City to the purport that the corporation would he the
body that would be charged with the duty of carrying oat the
functions created by the measure, and he had never Intended
to exempt them frem the preliminary inquiries which he
thought ought to be applied to every quarter of the country.
The City authorities had misconstrued the intimation he had
sent them, and on that he had consented to postpone the
consideration of their case until another session, but he
hoped next year to introduce another measure, so general
and comprehensive as not to exclude any large town or
the City of London, which especially stood in need of im-
provement. Another hon. member asked him to include
rural villages in the operation of the bill—other suggestions
had been made, and yet he was told he must effect all these
objects in a bill of ten clauses. (" Hear," and a laugh.) He
was quite ready to follow the example of his noble pride.
cassor is the office be now held, but he must remind the
house that, instead of 68 clauses, the noble lord's sanitary bfR
contained nearly 300clanses. (Hear.) His lintious wish had
been not to embitter the progress of the bill by anything in
his own conduct, and ho did not wish now to depart from
that spirit. He could not conclude without cep his
confident assurance that the subject had taken each
root in the convictions of the country, that, notwithstanding
the difficulties inherent to the question in the imperfections
of the individual by whom it might be introduced, it meat
command its own success. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. NEWDEGATE said, that, having taken an active
sein the opposition to this bill, he felt bound to acknow.
the courteous and kindly feeling which the noble lewd
exhibited under most trying circumstanc,s. Hs (Mt.
Newdegate) was anxious for sanitary reform, but be esail
not consent, he repeated, to such a social revolutions. tiff
bill would, if passed, hays brought about. He hoped the
new measure would obviate the necessity for any oyymilkm
to it, by making the law supreme, and not leacheg the
onus of regulating the real working of the measure ispenew
body of commissioners.
Sir D. L. EVANS, as one of the metropolitan Mime
bets, corroborated the statement of the hon. baronet (Sir IL
Clay), that no arrangement had been made with them kg
the exclusion of the City of London from this bill. He could
state that the great majority of his constituents entertained
a strong feeling in favour of the Health of Towns Bill, bed
they objected to the principle adopted in it of plurality of
voting. He hoped that principle would not be adopted in
the future measure.
Lord O. BENTINCK did not wish to interrupt the geed
humour which seemed to prevail in the house, but he
thought the noble lord opposite (Lord J. Russell) ought In
have the candour to exonerate his (Lord 0. Bentinck's) side
of the house from all blame for the time they bed
occupied in discussing this bill, which incorporated is alb
of parliament having six different and inconsistent imiteeprme
tabor( clauses. That surely was enough to " puzzle aft*.
juror ;" and if the discussion had gone on till August, the
government would have had no right to complain of the
opposition. He trusted that the opposition e.r post jab
were exonerated from having made any uaressonab6 ass
mends upon the government, in requesting that the ham
should not sit from the noon of one day until hall-nalnal
in the morning of the next day, and then again at soma to
discuss a bill which it required the labour of all the Wry=
in the country for twelve months to muter.
Lord J. RUSSELL begged merely to say that nel/terbs
nor his noble friend near him (Lord Morpeth), had made emg
=ewhatever against those hon. members who hid
this bill. He had said that it must be &sib& lot
others whether the opposition bed lama vs eating. or im
bad been defective. Farther them add Its, smut air to
go. While he was on hie legs, he bowl YttlasWmittlt
was intended to propose that the wan elheeei. Waimea
(this day), tithe the chair at Wes Vie*, and at belfimet
throe be should more the Committee of Supply.
After a few words from Mr. SPOONIOI, which did not me
as, the order of the day for the eammittal of the bill wee
read and disehouged.
THAMES CONSERVANCY BILL. •
Mr. H. 0. WARD said that la of nue law
take in the distribution of the Uwe Pa, Si
emended, he should not proceed will it sag ant.
PARLIAMENTARY ELECTORS BILL.
In answer to a question put by Yr. NEWD110•111,
Lord J. RUSSELL mid, that the Parliamentary Electors
(No. 2) Bill, would not be premed this session.
JOINT STOCK COMPANIES BILL.
Mr. STEWART asked the Vice-President of the Board
of Trade, whether it was intended to proceed with this mear
sure, which was one of the most extraordinary he had ever
aeon ? It mtOt
_to be abnuadomed.
Mr. M. GIBSON said, that, since the second reading, the
bill had bean materially altered, and he was not aware that,
la its present shape, it would meet with any opposition.
SITTING OF THE HOUSE.
Mr. WARLEY mid, as he understood it was late dad
that the house should sit on Saturday next, perhaps the
noble lord would state now what busman would be pre-
seeded with on that day.
Lord J. RUSSELL replied, it was intended to go on with
some of the Irish bills; but he would, to-morrow, state more
particularly what business would be taken.
COMPENSATION FOR DAMAGES (IRELAND)

On the motion of Mr. LABOUCHIHE, the house went into
committee on the Compensation for Damages (Ireland) Bill.
On Clause I being proposed
Mr. G. A. HAMILTON diew the attention of the com-
mittee to the estimate of the board of works of the amount
that would be required, namely, 1,500,0001. This for an
expenditure of 5,000,000 appeared tohim to be anenormous
sum, and he could not but express a hope that the grand and
petty juries before whom the claims for compensation might
be brought, would scrutinise them with the utmost rigour.
Mr. LABOUCHERE mica:red in the feeling that the
estimate seemed to be enormous. It was right that he should
mention that the estimate had been made upon infrufticient
data, but he joined in the hope that the authorities would
look narrowly into the subject, and take care that the com-
pensation was net made the means of jobbing.
After a few words from Mr. M. J. O'Coemeii, the clause
was agreed to, as were also the remaining clauses of the bill,
after several verbal alterations.
The house resumed, the bill was reported with amend-
aunts, and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow
(this day).
POLLING AT ELECTIONS (IRELAND) BILL.
On the motion of Mr. MONAHAN, the house want into
committee on this bill. On Clause 1 being proposed,
Mr. HAMILTON moved the omission of the University
of Dublin, end stated he should move a separate clause to
regulate the electioes for that constituency.
Mr. LABOUCHERE acquiesced, on the ground that he
thought it bet rightthat the University of Dublin should in
this moped be pat an the same footing as the English
universities.
The words " University of Dublin" were struck out, and
the clause so amended agreed to, as were clauses 2 to 5 in-
clining. On clams 6 being proposed,
Mr. OROOAN moved a proviso to regulate the adjourn.
meet of the poll, if interrupted by riot or disturbance, but,
After convereation, in which Mr. Shell, Mr. Mon-
ahan, xi, Hamilton, Mr. Labouohers, and Mr. Grogan