The Express.
London, England, 1848-05-31 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARMA.

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ROUSE OF LORDS.—Tvsews, NA/ 30.
TM LORD CRANCILLOR took his seat at 6 o'clock
PRIVATE BUSINEtid.
SECOND REAGING2X-Liverpeol Docks (erettion of warehouses
and cow/it:Hon of new works) riktelit OMVaniard Iran Company
(trading Loneuder the style or Arm of i• Melina and ihos'insons") ; East
and West Harbour and Bridge ; Leicester 'Navigation (sale of
lands on Teeter Line)) ; Bills.
THIRD REAGINGS.—BristoI afton ns Light Amendment;
Price's Patent Oandles Can Ailment; UBE.
PCBLIC BO SI N MA.
SECOND READlNO.—Evicted ibmitute Poor (Ireland) Bill,
REPOKTS. —Smoke Prohibition; Parliamentary Proceedings Ad-
jOUtarnrat ; Bills,
PrifITIONS, -By Lord BROUGHAM and the Fart M et. Ofin.
MANS, from numeroua lodges or Odd Yellow., in favour of the bill
ibt legalng Odd Fellows Societies; slim from Edinburgh. ln favour
of the floe (mints of the charter; alto from magistratets planters.
nereveg, awl others, in Hanover, Jsautio., complaining of ;he men-
sums whicn had hive pawed with reference to colonial sago ; also
• petition complaining of the mode 01. arseesment in Ireland.—
The Earl of LUC Or, frmn a piano in Ireland, to the smile effect.—
The Rheum of NORWICH, from Norwich and other placer in his
dlecese, against the legacy duty on charitable bequests, —Earl of
EOLIN )Ell.
trom several place. in el:attend, against the sco
ScOteb
tch Re-
g:T:ll7lr ,f I;trtn.arbia4 f! 7. l'oll. tsla. fToenlitt: t: air jr
against the Hish wor-law. -The Bishop of. LIHOOLN, from severe.
places In his dower, against the sale of intoxicating litinOra on the
asiguith.—Lord PORTMAN. from Lantiport, in S merseishire, com-
plaining of the immense increase in the po,r rates.—The Duke of
RICHMOND, from a plaoe ia Scotland, against the Registration and
Marriage Max
IRISII POOR LAW.
The Earl of LUC AN moved for a select committee to in-
quire into the eta ration al the Irish Poor Law Acts, relative
to the rating of immediate lessors. He had limited it to the
one point as to immediate leviers in the hope of preventing
say opposition to his motion; but he thought a more general
inquiry wee necessary, and mould not much longer Int with-
held. lie did not want to get rid ot the rating of in
otmediate
be
lessors, but he thought that other perso ought to
rated. Such a course would prevent the infinite subdivision
of land which was so injurious to Ireland. Atter a few
fur tier observations the noble lord concluded by moving for
the appointment of the committee.
Tee Marquis of LANSDOWNE was sorry to oppose
lv-
the
motion, but he uederstood a case had been pble rep In
earl d in
to thevo
ing some of the questions alluded to by the no as
present mode of rating, and it would shortly be decided by a
court of law. Until that decision had been come to, he did
not see how their lordships coeld take any step in the matter
lie advised the house, therefore, to refus motion.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM supported the m e the
otiohe noble
earl, whose observstigns were i n. Twas
mperfectly audible, un-
derstood to complain of the great increase in the expense of
supporting the poor in Ireland. Ile conjured the govern-
ment to adopt some system of colonisation which should
assist in relieving the rates. They had waste lands at one
en o the world, and waste hands at the other, and why not
adoptf some system which should bring those two grist ele-
ments of production together ? kllenr, hear.) This was a
matter requiring immediate consideration. This year the
desire to emigrate was not as great as last year, and it they
waited until next year it would post have disappeared
altogether.
Earl GREY deprecated the discussion of ea large a ques-
tion as colonisation, on a mere restricted motion for inquiry
into certain proceedings arising out of the ng the
poor laws. He complained of the fallacy involvedworki in his noble
friend's observations, namely, that it was in the power of
any government to dispense prosperity and happiness among
the people. Prosperity must come from the industry of the
wple and from th•:, development of the national resources.
That 'development could nut come without security, and
government had performed its task in restorinfi security, and
suppressing crime throughout Ireland. the to emigratiun, if
the people practised industry et home re would be no
necessity for deportation ; while, if they wort sent away
without some capital, nothing but misfortnne must be the
result. In a few days he would lay upon the table further
papers relative to emigration, and he would at the same time
take the oppormnity of entering at length into the views of
the government on that important subject. He believed
that the poor law in Ireland was on the whole working bet-
ter than could have been expected. He did not see that a
sufficient case had been made out for the motion of the noble
earl.
Lord STUART I)E DECIES took occasion to express his
regret that more attention was not paid in parliament to the
wishes of the Irish people as expressed through their repre-
seative*. Those wishes bad been expreesed explicitly on
them tutu of the lion. nierober for Porterlington ; and he
(Lord Stuart de Decies) had reason to know that the rejection
el that motion had done more to advance the cause of repeal
than all the exertions of its 01061 strenuous advocstes.
(Hear, hear.) Having entered into /0010 details as to the
working of the poor law, the noble lord con^luded by stating
that be should vote for the noble earl's motion sinless govern-
ment promised an kart). and searching inquiry into the whole
soope, tenor, and operation of the Irish poor lay.
and for
Lord BEAUMONT considered that a good gro
inquiry had been made out.
The Esrl of DEVON was opposed to immediate inquiries,
seeing that legal steps were pending in another place but
be hoped that before hmg a ful and searching
nearsiniry would
be conceded by government The nolelc earl him (Earl
Grey, had told them that on the whole the poor law worked
well. That might be true, but he (Earl of Driven) could
state of his own knowledge that in tame parts of Irelmit
was far from auccesstul in its operation.
Lord CAMPBELL opposed the motion.
Lord MON lEAGLE supported the motion.
here Hwa san ims
e did
care about the individual grievance, but
portent law containing confessedly • serioua grievance ; that
grievance caused g I discontent, and it WILI therefore, he
contrived. the duty of that Louse to grant an immediate in-
vestigation. As a friend of the union, as a friend of British
eennexion, he dared not vote against this inquiry. hat
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE could not sec that
there wa• any necessity for a committee of inquiry• If the
intention of the Poor Law
remedy not clearly made ont as
regerded lesson, the best would be a short bill to
remove mieconception. If they were to have inquiry, let it
be general, and net confined to a mere point of detail.
The house divided-For the motion ...........27-6
33
Against ...............
The motion Was consequently carried against the govern-
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ADDRE S OF CONDOLENCE TO HER MAJESTY.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE moved that an humble
address be presented to her Majty condoling with her Ma-
jesty on the loss sustathed by these royal family in the death
of the Princess Sophia.
Lord STANLEY said there would be oaly one opinion on
the subject,—esenely, that the virtues of her late royal high.
nen would occasion her loss to be very severely telt.
The motion was then unanimously agreed to.
EVICTED TENANTS (IRELAND)) BILL.
The Bderqu of CLANRICARDE, in moving the second
reading of this bill, entered into a statement of
its objects
and provisions, which have already formed the subject of
several discussions in the other house, when the bill was in-
troduced.
Lord MONTEAGLE said that he had no objection to
the objects prweeed to be attained by the bill, but so long
as the Irish poor law was in existence the proposed measure
would offer the most insuperable difficulties to the effectual
operation of the existing law, and would render it wholly ino-
perative. If he had been rightly informed the gentleman whose
imputed conduct had mainly given rise to the bill was
wholly ignorant of the circumstances which hail taken place
in evicting tenants, on his property, in Galway ; and yet he
bad been struck elf the commission of the peace, without
having hail an opportunity of denying them. In feet he had
the authority of the lord lieutenant of Mr. Blake's county
for asserting that that gentleman was quite innocent of the
facts imputed to him. Their lordships ought therefore to
guard themselves against adopting general measures founded
on two caws, one of which had been denied to have
any foundation in truth. The bill would introduce
the greatest confusion into the administration of the poor law
in Ireland, and be must offer it the strongest opposition.
For the objects sought to tie attained by the bill be had great
sympathy, but let them be attained by the regular operntion
of the poor laws, and not relief measure which would derange
altogether the system of now in force in Ireland, and
be equally applicable to the class of persons contemplated by
the bill as to all other poor and destitute persons.
The Earl of GLENGALL vindietted Mr. Blake 'rum
having participated in the evictions which were
leged to have mainly given rise to the present measure.
At the same time, it was to be observed that Mr. Blake had
not given so clear an explanation of the circumstances to
the Irish Secretary as would have exculpated him from par-
ticipation in the outrages imputed to him. As for the bill
*elf he was opposed to
that if it passed in its present
shape it appeared to him every transaction in Ireland
connected with the letting of land must of necessity corns
under the cogni•ance and control of the poor-law guardians
there.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE briefly defended the
bill, and iustitied its provisions against the objections urged
by the two noble lords who had opposed it.
The 1.a., war then read a second time.
The 11.3 use adjourned at a quarter to ten o'clock to
Friday next.

HOUSE OF COMM oNS.—TuEsosy, MAT 30. 1
The 8 zzzzzz took the chair at 4 o'clOck.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
REPORTS CONSIDERED.— bristol and Exeter Bellamy (branch
from Bltadon to Wells, Glastonbury, and Street), to be re -committed;
Bristol and Kseter Railway (Taunton and Cos Cary branch), to be
re-committed; Eget Lincolnshire Railway (altration of Great Grimsby
branch) ; VAinhurgh and Glasgow Railway (No. I) (amendment of
seta and branches. are.); Exeter. Yeovil, and Dorchester Railway and
Branchee ; Ofeat Northern Hallway (laic of Axholme extenidon);
Great Western Railway (extension of the Reeks and limits Railway
team fliusgeriord to Wedbur, , with a branch to*Derixes); LeerlsCens
Ind Railway station ; Loeb ard Think Railway (liarrogateand Pateley
branch); London and titalwall Railway Improvement and Branches to
the St. Kstharine's and London Do. ha; Low's Patent ; Norfolk Railway
(amendment of acts and extension of time for commencing Reedham
and
)for bra North and Smith Western Railway (Harrow to
Brentfor.l) ; North Western Railway (diversions at hkipton, Custer-
ton,and Sedbergh); Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Rail-
way (No. 2) (deviation of line, and power to Shrewsbury and Rif-
minphion, and Ihr mingliani—Biercrhanipten, and Dudley Railway
Oompaniee to contribute and make arrangements) to he recomrol ted ;
Senabur) end Yee,' Railway ; Stirling and Dunfermline Railway
(amendment and deviation )) to be recommitted; Strathtay and
Ermdallsone Event:Sok Railway ; Rills.
THIRD REAL/IND.—Blond and Exeter Railway (Glastonbury
navigation and miud kurebaae) ESL
PUBLIC BtIhINESS.
PETITIONS.—By Sir J. WAL )(WILY, from Leicester. for reduc. I
Bon of dines on tea, sugar, toffse, estp, THOMP
GARSON (21),
from tou.,,enohlers of Poston, it, Ineasture ; Mr. DNER,
from sans I de; Mr. BLASE, born Tewkeehury, and lee petitions
from the borough of Polaris) t Lord D. STUART, from St- I'+(
;
in favour of Mr. Iltune'ri metikir for parliamentary re Mem. (To the
sign-M.D.' to the ft Terming petitions arc added the are of the mil-
dew es, their ricemsmions, ono residerices).—Sir G. STRCKLAND,
from Presto., in fse our of r.sluction in the public exprciditnre.—Lord
CANTU:REAL:IL from publis meeting hold at Newtownarl, signed
by 1,41°, inhabitants. against a repeal of the union, WILL de-
by
th .1 'he p ;Wan In li:seer thefeof emsn
a very smolt rea don of Tian ei thatakd from
town.—