The Express.
London, England, 1865-03-14 00:00:00

tel to employ lo Image ealselated to irritate tempenme ,
differences, ea to exaspecate late imelm ti
which might page awth, sad net to di4"B4reirsins I
lap of the educated alarm and the gear. to wb r
the hon. gentleman alluded -those feelinge whisk we know
to be pennies Ganes the oommunfty la width we live are
oin equally panelist emoug the great oreamenity of the I
United States of North America. (Chests.)
Mr. DISRAELI did not impugn the conduit of the •
Untied States goverament nor did he sea that then wee
say immediate gier, is :Ye the war between the North.
arn and Southern States were terminated, of our being
plated is millings with the Amerions owing to oar
othoexioet with Causda. If there were • einem sad
deep desire on the part of the North bmeriena ono.
ales to develop their resources calve the palweempt
of England, it would be one of the greatest polished bloodies
oomenabio if we recouneed, relinquished, or avoided, the
responsibility of upholding and maintainieg their !ethane
by Owing them is a sate of proper deface. Re ded
not leek that the British government showiddelabil the while
frontier of 1,500 miles, but that b Majesty'. troops is
Canada should not he plead la a panties la which the
starlet bravery sad skill would be of po avail. The right
his. gentlemen also asimadverted on the coettieting views
expressed by different lambert of the passineat epos
the minted in America, sad whisad rally
led to the peg perplexity that wk hined hi the
public mind en the subject. On, day (said the
right has. post easin we have been told by an mina%
member of the government that the South might be iamb
deed to have oompleted her iadependethe ; :ad very
shortly after that soother great authority—lea sow to
this how, and w Crewed the ewe regrets than I
do, Sir George Lark—mid be did sot
reeognime that say single element of ('dependence had
bees accomplished by the South. Thoth two °pintoes per.
Dewed the country; one day they were ready to believe
from the government that there was ma their pert the
utmost sympathy with those who were shoaling to the
Southern Settee, while as the other heed the nominee of
the government who bad to pan a judmneell ewe these
matter., sad whose position gam peculiar inlaid to hia opt-
nine., expremed ethedueloas of a totally dadaist character.
I do not blame bar Majesty's government} in a panics of
extreme diMoulty, for formists opining in • period of re-
volution, but what Ido regret them di
emblems
an their port, and that all On time the estelna a this
weary beer sot been prepared for defence se they should
have been. After the loss of four years we are now
about to 000111Slibee an effort woe • wall exile
sad with very limited results. But them are after all
little matter., provided that they are famed epee a mooed
principle. If the parliament of England bas dinenniaed to
melatais the colonies of ha Mejedy, founded ems the
=vocal sopranos' me their part that to that ear
they nisei with finings sod neelimeate of • ohs-
meter which shows that the animal thatiment le wholly
unimpaired—if they prom that those reports sod rumours
whisk have been circulated of late years in raped to the
beeline of the colonists are unfounded, that they are proud
of their meneetion with the mother untry, and that they
are resolved to maietaie it until they rival na is our peat
area and have beelines our allies and ear friends—then I
shall not regret anything which hen been dose. Itappeento
me that there are two oonammethee width haverienhed
from public) opinion being of late agitated upon thee.
thecae, tat we are oonnothen sow et what our duty
retrbe colonise, and that we are prepared to fulfil that
duty in • 'maw which will needthe eoelldencen and
atmegthee and maietale the British empire. Diear,iread&l
Mr. LOWE weld pot emotive why this country
meter into any arrangement for keeping troops in Meads
la thee of war. When it was woe keel,.
that • war would happen between Canada and Alleelkee
Canada might not be the beet piths for coming it cc.
(Hear, hear.) When suck • war had begun it would have
to be serried as in as imperial umarea—(hear, hear)—end
the defences of the Ca/median 00101140 would sink Leto •
very small matter indeed. (Hear, beer.) The cometian
would be whether the country would poi atm& at a
point when there would he the greatest deemed ewes"
said it t lie that we should have be abandon Otheda—
so far as up • large Imperial taw woe easeemed—
sad to strike at America in a mere vnisterable pink
With thine coasideratioas is view it would be unwise
to retain any large. force of soldier. in Canada in a
war with AMMO. Indeed, he thought that
mom important points for protedicie were Halifax and
Berniuda—Ooter, hear)—not for the sake of theme pleas
themselves, but for the mite of our ships. Well, if it
would not be pendent to keep troops in Canada in time of
wee, was it wise or mapaniniona to keep Memo there is
time of pews ? (Haar, hear.) Wee it wise to keep them
there, sad thee sewerage the Cthadithe to wawa that
they wade be supplied with • lane fore, le time ot war?
shayr Be thought it etas wales to do that, sod
un hos. meniber wan prepared to see the
should be kept there in time of peas,. he (Mr. Lowe) twimeaut
thy that it was orgies the Canadithe le eat woe false
pretences. With our • little may we goad bet keep
up • lame fame in Cased& The data upon it
would be felt se it was clang the Crimean eampalgo, and
the result might be that we should have to withdraw them.
If any care for war did nut exist, there would be naltia
golikely Ugly. a muse as keeping BOMA troop. is Coada.
(Hear, beer.) There were those is Americo who sheen to
consider It a needing menace, and there were some Ameri-
cas* who wished to go to war le order that they might
capture a small British army. It would create • sort of
popularity le the Staten io favour of the leaders of such an
enterprise. Ueda all these eireemakeneee, ha thought
that the government would act wisely if they
withdrew the British troops ham Othade, and
thus remove every ineentive to the Ameriease
for going to war with this country. That a war hetween
this country and America wend never take pith, steel
be the prayer sod wish of all pawn& for It would he •
fearful calamity to the human race. For himself he dm
sized to remove every caws for war, and therefore he be.
Bead that the wisest wage to follow, and which would be
for the interests of this cambia, if it were desired to pre-
game paw, and la owe of war, to merry on • receseefed I
we, would he to withdraw our troops from Canada. (Hear.)
Sir J. FEBOUSBON mid that the boa. member for Brod-
feed had deprecated scything being said width might give
umbrage to the people of the United States. That arse-
aloe of feel* was rimed in by boo. members as that (the
appositive) site of the hoses. The right boo. gentleman
the member for Caine bed now put fo that whine was a
sew dootrise, for he would leave the Canadian frontier undo
fended. If the hones should give any encouragement to such a
teethe It would cause a painful chill to run through the
bewly-formed Coofederation of the British Provisos. He
ventured to think that the proposal of the right
hon. ventilates would meat with no support is
that home, sad would not be followed by the government.
At regarded the ridicule which the right hog. putleinan
the member for Caine bad attempted to throw oe the sug-
gestion that Canada should be fortified, he would observe
that of course the fortifications would be in 'wordagee with
modern improvements, and that the great object would be
to enable • small force to ceps with a large one by meths
of
artillery which the enemy would be unable to reach. The
government had plead before the house a scheme for forti-
fying the meet vulnerable points ; but what was an expendi-
ture of 10,0001. • yea for snob a purpose! Let earnest
efforts he made to fortify Canada where she was in the
greatest danger, and thee., combined with the drilling of
the militia, weld at ail emote save the British uniform
hem* the' disgrace of retreating before the enemy without
being able esi 'hike • single blow for the honour of this
counDy.
Mr. WHITE said he wished to ale the boo. teronet (Sir
J. Forguesoin and the Iwo. member for Horsham (Mr. S.
Fitzgerald)
Were
they proposed to do for the defence of
Canada. Were they prepared to sanction an expenditure
which would denthle the national debt, or to forego all hope
of • rediestan of the malt tax! (Hear, bear.) He thought
the right hoo. geotleruau the member for Cala. (Mr. Lowe)
was right in supposing that it would be impossible for Eng-
land to retain Canada if the governeneet of the Dallied States
were determioed to invade it. (Hear.) He would 'sly add
that the tone end temper exhibited by the hos. member
for Horsham contrasted moat satisfactorily with them of his
leader in soother plain, and that when he read the swab
of that able lord the any consolation which he derived
from it was that his advent to power must, in his own
opinion, be far distant, or the noble lord would sot bare
indulged I. such inflammatory and iucendiary language.
(Hear. bear.)
Mr. C. FONTISOCE said it was evident that her Ma-
jeety's government and the hoe. member for Brighton (Mr.
White) were not at all agreed as to the object in view.
The guana of their duty with reference to British North
Amoeba wee bet, in the ophoon of the government. do
peodost on • ealcolatiou of profit aed lose in connexion
with commerce. (Hear bear.) The governmeet won-
dered the retention of the Caeadien colonies a matter of
duty which they were booed to perform, provided
these colonies wished to ',male dependatit on the
mows of Eugland, and were retinae to play a manly
part ill their own defence.
Sir F. SMITH said he thought the how and the eatustry
were thinned to the hon. member for Harebane for bringing
this Tana forward. What had beta staled in thin debate
would teed to reageure the people of this country and to
menu* those Canadians who desired to manna. the coo-
nexioe with the mother country. The Undevitheretery had
told them of the dot...mutinies of the governuseet to stain
by the Doles& and it appeared their intention wee to fortify
Quebec and Toronto, and he supposed to Sod the orreamient
and momuoitioe necessary foe the fortifications. Now, he
thought it bettor that they should look this matter is the
, few, end that before they Toad • single penny for the de-
fames if Canada theyought to know what the whole a-
pogee would be. Colossi Jeans was no doubt an excellent
aloe& but lie report ought to lave been submitted to the
coromendevianbiet I. Cathie, to Sir John Burgoyne. mid
to the Quarterniaster-Otherel,wbo knew Owed& thoroughly.
He (the hoe. member) objected to sontstiog fortitimitione
all over the country, but he thought that, a all events,
Quebec sod Meean should he put at • very reepeotable
tootles. It that 'was dose he did not think that 200,0001.
would he thilisigni for Quebec; if it was he would like to
see a detailed estimate. Whatever their attentions the
goverment should sot with daisies. If they meant to
thane. Quadri let them say es, and do it ; if they
were net pia to give it mi—ead he applauded their die
ternithatiem wet tato so—let them ad with pester promp-
tbook.
Mr. WATJCIN did act believe we were le any danger of
war with the Vaned Stars hat the way to avert that
wiesest=net he talk 'host aweeleg err onnaszthedlts:
ear A (Ohms.) It wee not to talk
sheet Baitiak se=4".meniamearee_to their whip.; beg it
wee to say mdmly and boldly to the Dotted Staten that lbw'
Awl
provisoes wore • pat of the great British
maples; es Beek is.. sea ease wee, they wield be noir

not that lb. secretary of Chelsea Hospital shall
be cbcem for hi psperigees in the duties of
• offios. Well, Hutt has that a:perigees. He
has had lugs and keg experieme in the duties pertain.
Mg to military peosioes, and in the distribution of military
He is, therefor*, technically, and in every other
sesse, well qnslided to fill that seam Ide set my this
mos my own authority—l say it on the authority of a pen.
*sown who, I think, must be hatter qualified to judge of
the question than perhaps say =herniae la Ittihad, a ear-
thman who must ham at bout meet showily the welfare
of Chelsea Hospital. bemuse his exertions have raked it to
its presout efßrienoy—l mean Mr. Morehead, the retiring
temehrr. Mr. Morehead was eciaisast of ell the steps in
this trammetion. I laid ell the facts before him, and he
seamed me that General Hutt was tichoically and le every
other team well qualified to fulfil the duties of this office ;
I base his letter sow ie my Mad, and I =glottis that sot
merely mobeically, but in every point of view in which
the matter can be regarded, it is a proper appoiut.
meet. General Hutt hes Irma an =Bea in the
Ladlee artillery, but there is nothing in the circumstances
of his Ide ofep,
which icy soldier seed be ashamed. He bag
been named, sot ono., but many time, is the Gazette for
distiaguiehed 000duot in the geld. The late Sir C. Napier,
a general, I presume, tufboiently well qualified to judge of
military service, spoke of him in a public &match as one
of the best of in India, end the late Duke of Wellag-
toe. when he was o.mmanderin.ithief, went =sightly out
of his way to pay hi= a public compliment foe his dish.-
Maserviette at Meanie sad Hyderabad. (Hear, hear.)
ri say mother word, for I ant quite sure the home
will appreciate my positioa on this copulas. (Hear, hear.)

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DEFENCES OF CANADA.
On the order for grog into esatinitase of supply,
Mr. & FITZORHALD rose to call the attention
of the house to the report of Colonel Jura with Manatee
to the defame of Card., aid to ask bar Ms,etty's govern-
ment fee information with rehires thereto. He said be
was swan that the course he was about to take in bringing
the question of the defences of Canada before tie bore was
re that might be sad miarepessented.
There were those is the of souse out of doors,
who thought that the of a quadri tor
as this might possibly, is emrtain ern* toad to
promote bcrilities between this country sad the United
Stales of America. They thought that by meneter
allure, to tree gammons, by politic anaemiat end
prig direemidess cm the pomeibility of hostilities hirer
the re esealeiss, the pert* of the two °ouster eiliOt
Pine tow oskter snob hostilities bet possible, them by di.
at last Ward sad samosa inevilabie •
sod en this grouocl they deprecated may dire!
den, sad she. to abut their eyes to rating fade, rarer
ilea by ditersion sad argument to pat that bore sad the
orate, in fall posserie cer die pretest state of affairs. He
was not of that opinion himself • he believed that the
treat policy I. oases such as this ;ne that the house sad
the country should be fully acipminted with the real state
of the sera after such a damasks ; and boyar that, if any
resooestrenn was to he, rammed to any our, Is should be
made to her Majesty's governmer, who bed plead oa the
edge of the be.. rpm rat only releasplatieg the
possibility and the probability of hostilities, bat point-
ing out thehaßsible coarse that these hostilities
might take to the discreet tad defeat of Barb
armies. By publishing them rpm they had dream mar
as is them lay to drones(' the triers, and encourage lb.
advertence of troweatry. Thine we. echoes almiby whom
the object of this mottos might he inisaudentood and mis-
npresented. There wen tree is that house and out of
who bid, from persistent Faudiq to the Federal States of
Astoria, sympathised, sad ho bad DO doubt conscientiorly
respithieed with the obtecits of Frond policy, who read
to likely to attribute to him a
Fe to barter
' betters is *ls country apart the reed
meet, and and in that way unbar ter to ismer,
than to diminish the probability of hostilities. If such
impotatiese were made epos him, they would be
most tuned sad eater:led ; for then was no art that de-
periled mem sham ho did the utterer, of a minis word
that could by say possibility increase the fretted's
broom the two restries. What bad been the
posiliets of the °natty durieg the last two years?
that tiros, at any moment, in coatrooms of
Dariena from Canada, possibly set en foot by. °ou-
tsiders* myenathries with the treatise of implicating the
two anotries—(hoar, Item)—if the intemperate eider of
as injudicious commander. or of seam snot strides alarm
ire the raids of the popalatioa, war might bre broken
set, sad who might say when it might (Hear.) They
hod there tbe Goardatheflower of their army, troops sot cry
burin the rest* al the royal mama &Maar partisan
to the sovereign, but rearm moss their ranks err of
the imbibe awl beet blood of the land, bad whet was better
NM regiments whose sands were illustrated by
deeds of heroism et Waterloo and the Crimea. (Hear.
bear.) And what was the position of theme men? If war
had eaexpeetedly and unfortunately broken out, as Colonel
Jaunt stated, the only corset to be given to these troops
would bays bees toff a het as poesible to their ships, to
lean Canada sod take refuge in this country. (Hear,
bear.) And if try Ind secred mesh adeial. WI IMa mare
they would. thee what would bare bra left? Nothimg bat
defeat and diners, a hopeless radittaace, end arab
disaster. (Hear, Item.) Well, *ere were still 8,000 or
10.000 Meer the* treed at this moment is the wets posi-
tive. What he wired to impress ea rehouse was, that so
mem could say for retain whether beet/Mite might wet
break out suddenly troves this matey sad rim Cord
Beams. Bat what they could say for certain was, that
anises they set to work promptly, vigorously, and without
re ler of an hour—(hear, bear)—to piste the treads
of Cards is a state of defines, the hest blood of our troops
=be mender, sod the honour of Englitod be tar-
(Hear, her) Therefore he hoped be had said
amen* to Isidro re house and the corny to imperil
= ietilte govermiret that the system which they Lad
for the last two or three years would do no looser.
It word sot do to !moults, ad do nothing moire. It
read tot do to receive a commissioner's report, sad
do riling. (Hear, hear., W hat they were bound to do
was, to oar to as tuidenteadiog with Cords as to the
preparations that should be made arse existing dreamy
Mauer, ad as to who shoald bear re expenses of there
dertilleations tad necessary works. They were bound at
ease to pot is force the whole mere at their command to
make Cards what she ought to be, lamely, capable of de-
free, and not • sours of danger to this country. (Hear.)
For bit port, he should be more than repaid for On treble
he had taken in this manor if one most object he bad
in view were answered, end that was, if the country and
the government ware induced to Rut Canada into such an
efficient state of defence as that, in case the present war
✓oan rams to an end, the poputatios of America, and he
was speaking now not of those who trees pared at tam bead
of ars, or of those who might hams barer but of the
people—he motet emphatically the people, intoxicated
with success, should not allow themselves to be led
into a war with this country under an idea that
Canada was incapable of making any defence. (Her)
By making Minds capable of defence he believed they
would streagtben the bonds of pear by removing or great
pontos of temptation from those who might otherwise be
dispose to attack it. If the day unfortunately arrived when
there should be hostilities, he should feel, at ell events, that
I he bad done his dry by impressing on the government sad
the here the replies of those .®moot mane which should
remove all danger of disgrace to our army sad of disarming
to our name. (Cheers.)
Mr. W. FOUSTER, observing that if we were to under-
' take to put the whole frontier of Canada in • conditloa of
complete defence the expense wort be almost fabulist.
I said the (ratios was whether, in the present Mathias les-
, tween this country and Canada, we ought not to call epee
the oniony to look to her own resources, and spend her owa
mosey in her own defence if she desired the coons:lea
I should continue. But the reel question was, whether
there was sufficient »aeon for increasing her mesas el
defame at all. He believed that the fears of hostilities se
the pert of the United States were unreasonable and utter);
grouodliwa. and he drew from torus of the bets referred to
by Mr. Fitzgerald conclusions consistent with pacific and
friendly feelings oa the part of that grernmeot towards
this country. Why then, be asked, should there be this
extraordinary suspicion of America ? It arose, ha said,
from the effoits of two climes—one corer" of Coofedm
rate agorae and sympathisers ; the other of disappointed
prophets. Having iusisted upon the groundlessness of the
fears of war with America, be protested spinet rushing
into as emennons expense foe the defers of Canada.
Mr. CARDWELL expressed the antacid= with which
he was ebb to make the announcement that our relations
with the United States were perfectly friendly. With
equal confidence and pleasure he was enabled to state that
there were no papers in the posemerion of Ler Majesty's
government varying tbe principle upon which the gaieties
of the Alabama steed between the two goveremaeuts. With
regard to the rowestion limiting the naval force to be
kept on the lakes. Earl Russell bad communicated with
the United States Minister her desire to substitute aaother
agreement for the old one ; and, so soon as the notice to
terminate the reciprocity treaty had bees given, no tar
would be loot by goserninent is sedeavournig to open I
on a subject of such vital inspoetasee. TI. I
thh""os.B gef tames also explained in detail the steps'
ber Majesty's "rename* in imobactiom with the
soloaial government, intended to take for the strategic
deform of the provisoes. With respect (he said) to
what we laird to do in future contiogencies, that is •
quake as to which, with groat defences, I delve to give
the right hoe. gentleman any informatics. If the Wee
should come when Canada shall be at war, her real defers
be twofold. A war with Ceara will he a war with
Engised. (Hear, hear.) Imperial Mere will be,
brought to her aid, sod wherever that imperial de-
fear can be most effective in theitroylog the power
of the enemy, there that imperial power will
be exerted. (Cheers.) Them the defuses of Cards mud
earn in the nucleus of s fore tarnished by the mother
tamatry,supplemeated by the military power of the 'obey.
I lire sow the eatisfactioe of striae that large bodies of
'Seers in the wiry are in Inman tetra Sr oximmand el
the militia in ease of rergery, and rat prepositive, are
beim made to bring • Lugo price of the militia of Cesar
boo • arida° for acrid service. This brig the spirit
of Meade at present, I think I ran mow my that fair sod
=reparations are being aside for the defer* of
against the attack of any enemy. That
that emmany ahould be the United States at
America I sincerely trust will never be the ease.
I; cannot express the feelings of regret with which I should
re a controversy between the United States sad the
ira*ri of her Malady. 7 should look epee :ass
heir-
eidal war—(keer, bear)—• calamity sheer led by
anythieg that the world has wee Nee, awl I eisiewely trate
that, bowever we may debate morn eatestre Mime oar
tiro of the defers of Cards and them eted relations ed
ear posesesioas with the mother Goolsby, we shall he map

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inapt (Lodi sheen) H Dime -Ins war with Andric& which the old 04001110 gays to Europe, Setif these mold-
it mold be o•bilt° the 190•011 ell of gentlemen who called nine which I have nand shell le the seat assts otter
vas buossaitartans. but who could support a war liamout and the people of England, end if the course of
=lig Biased • disarms to humanity ; puttemes who action which I lave dared bed shell be that of the people
gelled thethelieme lated who thought that they oonld of the United States, then, pot:tithes °din some paint
pot with al the of the ountcy in order to distrust, I have faith in ourselves and is them ; led I be-
, Erowthsir nomoutioal fames. (Hear, bear.) Lot her Bove that these two great sauces will swab en anent—
; • meat quietly tall the Madden@ that if parade sad guardians of freedom led justice whegesover
in bevies 200 gusset Moottionly we must their language shall be spoke& and their power shall ex•
bill fib at gash*/ ; sod it the matter were treated in teed. (Load caters)
tbd besissm bbs manner he had so doubt that they Lord PALMEB.STON—Sir, however', long this dims:doe
wegii Mee to no, =Pram. He hoped that the plan of •••" his 6.6141 for on cenvice regret that it he. take& plan for
which had ben a* successfully applied to the I think two opidoes have been expend by the notOgrity
lelme ',paid be exteoded to the whole frontier. (Hear: hear) of the members of this boom whin gansot fall to impinge
Sir N. FARQUHAR maid that =was glad the de- all who have beard than. The is that whisk has nem
v_ion had arisen, became is most show to the Atones* peoullarly dwelt epos by the ben. member who has Joel eat
nesnieset that, in spite of all the unfortunate statements down, lamely, the earnest desire that the most Madly re-
ea bed made, still that hones was prepared to look with tenon should be mail:Woad between Great Brine sad the
gooderatin at what hadtbeen said sod dons, feeling that Uinta States. (Hear, hear.) And the other unite is
the United States government bad been placed in a very that the omaosaioa het...n the _own.. arliergh
awkward position. What the Canadian said wee—" This Atom.. eo ig m tbs.? are dmial;.s at it, with the
is a withal moment ; don't let the British goverament mother country shall be maintained. (Hear' bear.) The
thillyslially with as. We desire to be connected with old hoe, member hee med„hat la an. march may
=ad,ke and all we can my is, that so keg, as she will eppimr t• be a paradox, but whet I think, anodise to the
to do her duty by us, we will stand by her to the enemies of human nature, may be sonellielesT te the
We breath in our body." (lieu, hear.) United States; foe thank the bee. member emit thrsiio o
Lord ELOIIO said that he one dews that miming to long mouse of ends, showing that the United States had
bear this dimension telly impressed with the vital import- bees ditmeted by this (="my, eat I ealinst ages nob
sand the question. He thoroughly }deed in evert word him in any one of his points. (agar, hear.) Fri -ft is a
ZciewUthlsoomigl,luesesintestatttgthein
thmeettYzottl.aovrowals.lai principle of horTrtuature Ott yea deiliffil
telling them thttte.!_pli,!!
to moss a bed feeling Warms the two miestriss. He had any man,▪ oleild. (a .) r min sot a ;:,
heard the dismal= which took place in the other house the hoe, gentleman in his d e ariw of the Treat arab,, mid
aappees the subject, and he must confess that he did ad like alas other eases which ban been disposed of, war
dribs heard thus. (Hear, hear.) Neither did be like will I discuss the ponies of Charts mad the United
what he reed ill the =Port of Dania Amen slime the de- States, because the hce. member admits Went that tie
fences of Ossetia, nor whet bad been expressed by the gli- conduct a the ommdmi, government has ham aohaudadod
wormed in the matter. Hiving sow listened loin pretest to here hem that of a [renal). . _ (Bear, hrs.)
debit., lay Wrenn was that amoopt all the spewing. The bon. gentleman says thin li
exists ggieslonay between
the cm which bad in it the deg of saran this country and the United dates. Rat I utterly dray It.
essende pasted SIEI:011 the spark of the right hon. (Hear, bear.) Thera is pot only so jealousy, bet os the
member for Clan ( T. Lowe). The orelY <1•6•Ii" between contrary every loglishman must feeLprood ell swag arias
that right hoe. gen had the Preasery bench was as upon sheathe, side ei the Atlantic a people of the
bigbsas
to the best mesas of seeding by Catena. He odd they ' eiviliastion, and dealing pot Poly amy greet dopes el
shoeld choose their own battle.field, and sot show the power, bet or wealth also„ (Hem, hair.) I dee, them
Mieriesam bolo m. He (Lord Eloho) thought it would be ion, that say fens( of *lousy exists Wiwi's ais cons- ,
mod impolitic to defied Ganda in the troo suggested by , try cad the Vatted swim Undoubtedly wee are gentle.
her Majesty's go Teratment. Did an, .1000 late woe ere• I sin who satertain diligent views to the losourside
pease then feeIIEMISMO_OSIFIROWOOMIG, that walla. vs Met , onakboo spas the kook el 4oaaosimak la Gail
a madam number of men to man them, the small anises 1 mmemy, sad who teal that Wt government Is ass
of troops east there woad bed say avail! the best that mold be estsblithia (Hear, hear.)
Mr. AYRTON said the hoc. member for Bradford had , Het that is was a different wog to the boon which
called &deans to the claims preferred by the Una Slates Ihe says exists. (Hear.) No doubt there has limn expressed
with referseas to the tranactioos arising out of the sails; , sad (eit both is the North mid m the smug • ream, of
of the Alabama, and read • specific denied elaimitig inset- Irritation naiad We nanny, but that bee ban mesa by
eitY, sad if wt, alinestieg that the =Meet Ithoold he nib- ! the natural emus* of two parties in a :marvel somplaisieg
mitred to arbitration. They had board a great dad of , that the third party, who was expected he take part in it,
arbitration, lied he non _517 he reed with banns I did sot espouse either side. This has pen nee Ito ma
=rtthe newer given by Eart Russell to the temperate , met of complaint sod ill-feeUci whist this goestry. (Hear.)
e. legitimate despatch of the minister of the Waited ^ The North wished us to &slue on their ids, the South
Slates government. 14 was not for us to ooeskier whether I wanted gm to &don on theirs, sad as V* maintained por-
tion thoelhtthe skin of the Chilled Stoles w••• friend= i feet seatrality batwams the two it was not 'Asada's' UM
is inn= sod neat. It wee menet for us to know that •; OR both sides some slight dame el Widnes should min
great power solemnly sametektlist it believed its claims to 'Hat lam equally persuadol with the bee. member who
its founded en ittorhatiotal law and Juni= (Hear, bear.) ' has just set down test is the great bulk of the people of the
He held it we. the bounden duty et the government to Untied Mato them am feeli gs deeper thee, that imitate.
scent that empanel to ester into onotiation mat if nee- —(" Hear, bear," from Mr. )--feelings of goodwill
Hee •:14.0.11"•• 'ones the edieeneeeti ,_ .ef en Bunch's
towards the esustry of their seession; an I am sanded
Ha . V•a the Publiolatoe of Ewa 11••""r• 61•7•••• that when Ind msfertunte goatee! shill ease, in whatever
bad caused great dissatisfaction in the U.lted States. way the tersdastice shall mese cs—l am persuaded that
The he was that the amens of the Americas government when that misted is over these eaten feeler of goodwill
WI" the reel late= Gaon tif the growing initiairel la the end ridatioseltip which ought to prevail between kindred
Wadi of the American people. He thought that some mimeo will mho the piece or shy tea* of temporary leo.
other nisinatioe than bad bees effoidol be the right hoe. tattoo to which the eircurostameas of war may ban led. I
gentlemen the Secretary of State was due to he hon. friend am goo. ..mama, also, that Hegraed will not give W.
the =noble for &Word. He =Pen= to hear some date' United Stales any just cause of somptslit • that will
aoaW::
cent that smooth* bad been dose to allay the irritatiou satwooold tom our side ; sad if us, siom proceed
.
that beanies. It wasolaimie that if ocatuth stop were Mks* heft oar ride, sad It 4a the hem pause= Haab
by amendment the demand:add be repeated, sod toast will he the gage, it does not praised from theirs,
be repeated If the goverment of the Used States bed any thee I think we have a well founded justificatios foe
regard for its own boson .__• and then what would be the bewaring that I. spite of gay edger,. aglaanooto of the
goodition of this country 1 When the United States became moment, is spite at the peogeammetbees of alum the
se strong as they hoped to be the demand must be repeated ; reboil, relations hemmed. the
ego the ti`i amid
and thee we most eitim imply or go 1* war ; asal was it owes will aot be ie aim mat delve d rateecepteo,
sot better that the government should take this question But that is so name why we shield ad lee mans is
Mtn its cossideratios, sod sodenour to put it into a nein our pewee to awe oar fellow moweee. if 1 mil ao ad
of eallannent, healed of =nine amen for amends. ~,for them, to Canada is o slots of defeoce. in the most of their
, iodination an works of a ostensive character! axe hem, ati...),.1 (Hoge, hem.) Sir, theism ao Wan amoiffy
I thought it would be better for the goverment for woo than strength to mist attack le it should coma
to withdraw the Tote aingether. At Peet they That
yis so provocation; it is ea shoes of terms to say
arm% that
ought to (unlit the house with the peoessary iderseatios whwhenou smoky seen so "mat deader, le it Amid
to form a judgment upon It i but he would infinitely prefer yea ate peomkied *het deeper sad memo* the piny
11011414 that Mt relations with the United States ware inch naiad whom prolautiolo may is taw. If no aigobooilor
as to lead to hops of the neutralisation of the great lakes, saute those peoshaMogo ma 1,440 eo egress seeps that at
meat the Nang of soy =roma/ to fortify the Canadian aspire, eondsees is the piety is whose Won they an
treatise. made ; If there ke a dispositin to attack it is ware Is be
Lord R. CECIL, after remarking that this debate would linseed is impends as the gnaws ti messes may be din-
operate spigot the interests of this country, observed that 'althea. (Hoar, hen) Now. I mead amour with my
the ambiguity about the defines of Canada was more data. tight hen. tread the member for Odes (Mr. Lowe),
genus to the boson of England this say other coarse is thinking, whatever diffiesdies there may be.
that meld ha adapted. It Curds (add the stable lord) and difficulties unoubledly thme may be la mostessfaly
sow truste to the vague premien of the Seentary resisting as "Meek if it shoed be made by Amides en
of State, sod allows herself to be drawn into a Canada, that the ashen et Gans is so attempt which
queue' with the United States, the quarrel will we could not sesteed is anompliglaing. I thick, on the
sot be with Canada, but with England. I fear that the cookery, that Caine may be defended. (lew, hoz.) I
disastrous sees= of lest year will be repeated. We shall then deo feel that the bettor of Region sail the goad lath
see the enormous danger. We .bull then have 300,000 goes which is doe to on loyal felerresentrystes, sad those
upon the frostier, with a nucleus of 10,000 me tenon, authors prodeses. require at ail mans that we
them, sod 30,000 nineteen, and an order for gun-boats, should make the attempt to defend then
which may some day make their appearance in the St. (Cheers.) And, therefore. 1 de sot lOW= tam%
Lawrence, and when s 9 are face to fees with the clinically. argseneet of my right honourable fried that
we shall thee ioquire what Is the atonal of our oblige- camel be defended, sad least et ell en lemma la the.
tins, an what we have promised to Oa se. clean esensing that esteem to be impassible, than.
The right boa gentleman will thee epee ' Hassard," and forthwith draw our troops from Oman I asithot egmY ,
God his speech deliehtfully vague, and then we shall look this urgent err mont to his onslusios. It there as be •
back to our diseoes sad pesos despatches on this subject eny doubt oe the gulden lam anions these should he so
end fin no definite moron which osa be diplomatically mistake. I ein nand to my that it Is net lb. latV
&arcs& sad than persuade ourseleas that Gan be bee Ganda will Maii•O linerieseat to follow the =nee ef
best defended by ansdonieg Cased& altogether—then hos. freed, an withdraw oar Hoeg. from .
beer)—and that the but thing is to Imes the iskabotants (Chasm) Oa the enatiorl. I fed thatom
the Itelittnat,
ante the mild sad paternal rule of the United States, of Englandand the duty of the government poisi te
(Laughter, end " Hoar, bear," from Mr. White.) I hays oar doing everything that it rosy beamed* to do; an Ism
no
debt the hon. member far Brigitte& oonatires that persuaded that it wend be the l thew of the British males
to be the best consummation that an happen: sad I trust that we should do our beet to defend oat feilowesoady.
that when it doss happen, the boo. member will be an is- meg, in Canada if attacked. Sir, as I mid Woes, lam per-
habeint of Canada. (Laughter.) But I entreat the house goaded that the tome of moderation which has perailed is
se omaider this es a matter which seriously eon the this debate will be useful both in Clan& an is the 17mited
honour of England. Mae up your minds what you can do, Stater. No doubt there are thin who have enamoured to
sad what you will do. Make up your minds ash ober:yea persuade the peopleand the ioversuiset of thoUnind Singe
determine to do, and do it thoroughly sad tompletely. that there nide in this cottony a spirit of hostility towards
Whatever you do, let Gods know distinctly the mealtime them, an a looking out for poem& of quarrel. There w
oe which you en prepared to aid lier,tbe attest to which you be no real and just grounds between us and then
we (Haar,
will go, sod how far en do or do sot regard her as an in- hear.) We certainly shall met seek dna groan& ; shall
Mimi part of the British empire. When you have made not create them ; and if the bum. member who boa jut at
up your minds on that point, and recorded your determine- down is a true and faithful exponent, as I have 110 doubt be
tin in some definite dociameet, you will than be prepared is, of the sentiments of the people of the United States,
to do your duty, as you have defined it, aid to act up to the then, I may, there can be Do well-groseded apprehensive
pledge you have given. (Cheer& ) that the pone which happily prevails between us sod them
Me. BRIGHT believed that if there cams a war in which should he isterrapted ; and I ma ody confirm the state.
Canada would be made a victim, it would be got up between meet of my right bon. friend, that the »la-
the government at Wmatingtos and the government is Los- ttioomime
.betpsowen.tithy
don, awed that be wondered err a most improbsble nest. the two
titdevettrntinost otstoryst. the present
ac (Chem.) Ws
For at the present moment there was the greatest calm on have an nonPlOioot te—lnahLef the =educed llee rearm"s
the frostier ; the United States had not • to complain of of the United =at= Tee/ bees "La le a fair eat
the Canadians, sad there sea not a man is a who bed hooourable manage towards us in all matters which have
the slightest idea that the Veen States would anon arisen between us. No doubt we have claims upoo them 1
them on meant of anything that had yet transpired, No which we do not bring forward :tawniest. bet
goverment that had use existed in America bedlam so which we have anoonsced as admi they
favourable to pine with all foreign countries, and especially at some future time be disoomed. But I Moat that 1
England, as the government of which Mr. Lincoln was at the tot:goverment& will feel that it it for the interest—
the bead. What then was the origin of the public an, and foe the honour, of botk toliemene frisedathiP and
anxiety that prevailed in thit country? Be appre-
hended that there was a cresciousoess in our bead of are capable of friendly adjusuant. All can say 41, thatsort
hearts that we had mot behaved generously with es long as the meet shall notions to be chargeable
will do everything
them to do,
toned to make us cowards at this particular juncture. As the honour ilna interest ofcountry require _ friendship.
our neighbours—a twitobing of the concise:se that with the undartvof drum'
tic
which
a reason for this he observed that the goterotont had to main our inviolate the relations of pens and
accorded belligerent rights to the Southern confederacy (Loud cheers.)
with unfriendly bade ; they had acted in the cue of the The sublect then dropped.
Trent in a•manser that was not likely to remove d &sullied MB.
and improve the feeliop between the two nations, and had NEWDEGATE AND THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
MEMBERS.
permitted the Alabama to be built, supplied with mud. Mr. HENNESSY directed the notice of the house to a
lions of war, and manned, in this country. If the hood of passage in the recently published letter el Mr. Nowdegals
unity between Lighted sod the United States rem:deed op- to De, methane, coetaming en impute** arm ebroken we should have to thank, not the wealthy and the Home. catholic ...hem oe the house, sad mood erm
cultivated, but the laborious million whom statesmen and He. Newdegate to lama what he memeated, or to offer as
historian too often made little account of. There was, no ample sod public apology.
doubt, a war party in the United States ; but that was the Mr. NEWDECIATE entered into an explanetioe of the
Irish party—the late onienana subjects et the right heel* eircumances under which he had written the letter, bat
gentleman the member for Tamwoitb. In his mew of the dud not comply with the ta,dtatioa at Mr. Kenney to
matter the root of all the unfortunate einousetssoes which
"Nom
lad occurred lay is the feeling of jealousy whisk had been ""
The O'DONOOHUE maid he thought the hoe. member
cherished in this country towards the American nation.
w winsome an opportunity for ex.
Some people (said the honourable member) believe that tmitreeforOmandemee—ared. thee" for efindiet the boa
Amencs will be arrogant and aggressive when she
i g his rat, and if had not thought fit to avail him-
biomes a great nation, but those o
self of..i
..t it was his fault. The Bishop of Birmingham had
pees
mode do not atoned upon the Me of a na-tioemlitas, Mainline*
the morale of Ite Pe*** " acme people fancy that the coo under neineedeoce. he
supremacy of the sess will pass away, and the noble lord sciffaigrea.ty
it,tatostuhre. geettemmat as as opportunity
hissu to man san in.
may think that " Rule Brands" will become obsolete, bed
sadopted
L;_.7th _:: offer, ho,w_ouldthlisittytte fizedrtotberbetmitweresal
I would say that if it permits of arrogance upon the mu . „=in "eel?* Wm"
the sooner it passes away the better. Ido not believe @pi , Imo he would have foued_also. that lemates lien. 1
or tent and manly. roman m wee Sae musk ilo
that it is better for this country that it should pride
Itself on the supremacy of the men I
.believe the time aspect t_. that the boo, urnrr,___wnid___,lner.,,,te_wcw.4 thy:siti
is coming when law cad justice will guide the eouroil ma". '.. convents,_ but the boas. 7. ''''' '''''
tatimiosta of the how.
and direct the policy of, the great nations of the world. nolo wnatasinamte to put
(Hear, boar.) Nature will pot be baffled berm wee telaineell in rote
, jealous of the Uinta States, and the deerses of pro- Mr. NEW DEGATE rose to explain, but was met by miss
vidence will sot be overthrown by anything that at "Order," and sat down.
this country am do. The Pondation of lee States et The house then went into committee of supply pro forest
this time is thirty-On millions of sous, sod when the next and immediately resumed.
=Teat of Enka, has lived to the age this on has The house then not ate committee of ways and me
he population will be about forty million, and we
may calculate that it will harems at about the rate of one mid a vote of 175,0001. was greeted.
million a y . Who ean cootradiet this l Who coo pia. COLONIAL AND NATAL DEFENCES BILL.
say it' To stand soaring against this would set mats our This bill was rood • need Hl=
population mote or the population of America less. Hon. METROPOLITAN MAIN DRAINAGL
member should Intro this fret—that it is for the Interest A gginotathm vs. woof la amataisa, cmomemies the
of this batten that it should live In perfect amity and nor. 1t...0n0'. . Beard dWoo. to ram mow, ea lam, ead
test' with the cation upon the other tide of the Adman a haTto;;:giadad ammo. was ordered to he mteadaced,
and I believe that the lave that satin exists, the
lees will our geode be iodised to be hostile AFFIRMATIONS (SCOTLAND) BILL,
it. and I the more confirmed ha this op by This bill was read a third time sod Teased.
=me
duet of the people in the North :hided the net tour
I believe that the American people will he engine JUSTICES OF THE PEACE (DISCRETSONARY
para. POWERS. )
to bury in oblides malty of the transaction whip have
kg Sir C. DOUGLAS moved for leave to brim te • till lb
gissiTythtbliniapnwymbhiardl49osseadpeapthleeyiswthisin asoottsik. all.whave""dooth— *wend the law under which J•••k•iineestisinals Ismassibegmberolll s
It is upon mord that whoa the author of the Dense sad ' diterwaiwart veva et ,iiirsieg _
..
_.
Fall of the Roma Empire was *boot to begis hi
p 5 PeconierY peal el . wee estwedle. .f, ett• er el v"..
te MI Ike
work, David Ilseerierrom to OW him to employ the . to. Win to the
.".......-- al coroostioa too
..sostasbuisoro mow_
HA sod sot the Frowth Wove, because be nil the ; eins.” may mama • 111" to prison (if
111 A 01661111 promited ths debility of the English loodsmo. WM) for three meths.
How far that posmise has been fulfilled, we sew Meng as Agreed to.
tell, bat low fee it will be mere seespidely haltilled is after PRISONS BILL.
limn gee must kw. Imo. times to all, inset be Sir G. GREY somisatet the nest osanaltiwo to tho
statatita to were It will be the pride and the re. Prillolllll Bill :--ffts George Orgy. Mt. , Mr. meal
•
nem of this eseueley that hoc lier loins Neve si= lir. Henlay, Mr. Ribbon. Mr. Hied Y. Hr.
Edward Howard. Mr. Heal, We Walk= Mils% Ma
may be a papist's. at 2110,C03 of men volt that

Mimeos, Mr. Joseph Beset. Mr. Walter, Mt. Watling.
tea s
od Kr. Wieitbseed ; IN to be • pueesus.
Agreed to.
JUDGMENT (IRELAND) BILL.
Oa the motioa of Mr. 0110001 (for It r. Whiteside) lam
wee ems to kin is bth to amend the law 'sissies to
Mere isdgmththielreimM, sod to assimilate it to the law
relatisg- to WOhroUfr Fad/sal.
SEWAGE UTILIZATION BILL.
Led B. MONTAGU sembestel the select sosamittes
ea the Weep Ueiliatioe Bill s—Led Robert Montage,
Kr, Cowuw. the Lord Adrocets, Sir Colmar O'Lesblas,
Loft,"Way Mr. Bright, Yr. Oramßwhig.
Sir Ifetheejlelly, Biz James leressee, Yr. Lees.
MM, Yr. Looks Kim Ito. Ileiesys, Mr. Gas Lemma, mod
Kr. Leader; with power to seed for persons, mom wad
mewls ; Aft b. be s %wan. dined to.
Riciutramom OF VOTERS (IRELAND).
smOttr. P*KL ratelsed leave to brag Ia • bill farther to
Owl laws regalatleg the registratioa of parliamentary
voters IS seriatim is Irslmrl.
Os tie meths ell Mr. ATIITON sad Mt. Be;ZWIIE Mr.
SWUM id Lad R. Mosseir were respectively added is
the Weil esisalitt. au bUL
The house roes at hatessi twelve.