The Express.
London, England, 1865-03-07 00:00:00

by there, fiber et %Ott a he hiss of
9,1001 red. The ruble wbN step
we props tO. t,sk in the matter. The first
thing, of lour= Is to wait for the answers
end explanatiees which that retire= may deem
ebb aim
gad give them a tell lad fir imairlagethm Sobj that
it has bar a matter of sirens ocesidessioa co des part of
the governmeet, ander the attire of the law officers of the
crown, whether the fangs, sa rated, sasuoiog them to be
*WIN might to lead to say procesdiege not of • glen aimu-
rarer, and taking all the =cameleer. into nabs:
ding, ensoopt other things, the feet that a gl= of in-
, 1111, erased by the oommitioaers born this pat-
tern= himself iu answer to questions pet to him, the
guy enusent had strived at the conclusion that the case was
not or in whit* it was rudest or particabbe to irritate
any spare of crimes' prosecution. But with xe to the
other manures pointed out by the noble bed, I think I am
satin= to state that it is the decided inteetWe of the
governerst, oaken there at farther explanatione and
statenuate which may lead to a different coucluston,
tab chill
proosedinge in order to recover the whole deficit
to which I have referred.
Mr. H. SEYMOUR seed it Mr. Fiume& word not re-
ceive his retiring prim of 8001. • year until the amounts
of the Patent-oMe were cleared up. He also arced whether
it would not be desirable to appoint a committee of the
hour to inquire into the whole matter.
The AMENEY-GENERAL mid ha bad no information
on the @shiest, but, is far as his judgmest was comereed,
be thought it was not proper that he should Trite any of
be should have discharged himself from
tiird"With regard to the question whether a committee
of the boom should be appointed, he should humbly venture
to think that while there were civil prooesdinp to enforce
his responsibility it was not expedient that the house should
tab the matter into its own brads.
APPOINTMENT OF MR. BETUELL.
SirJ. ELPHINSTONE asked whether it was true that
the Lord Chancellor had appointed his eon to the vacant
• r stated in the mwspapers
The ATTORNEY-CHINERAL—The Lord Obroollor, in
the exam= of the patronage which I believe lea always be-
longed to hie ofiloe, au the vacary taking place in the House
of Lords, Ms appointed grim= who I believe stands
in that relation to his lordeW. (Laughter.)
Sir J. ILLPFILNSTONE-4 wish to ask thehese Chaacelke of
the Exchequer w being originated t proceed-
rap spier this phether,rism= Maid not, when he was able to
tan him out of the °fig= =plat his goo, and; whether
ibis is sot • oar of more gravity than that which was
brought scab= Lord ambushed at the beginning of the
preset parlament ? (Haas, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
no pcoosedinp, properly so called, had been taken against
Edmunds.
Mr. WHITLIIDE asked whether it was the fact that
this penman get his peasioa for good swim
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
neither the Treasury nor himself had say information
the safer. He was appointed by this Muss to lake •
sham with the Speaker la the proordiege with reprit to
the pensions of the 08011r11 of the Howie of Cornmeal
bat either be nor the Treasury bed any authority what-
;
ever with roper to the odious of the other bones, sad
he bed no knowledge as to them beyond whet appeared
in the vet=
RAILWAY ACCIDENTS.
Mr. G. W. BENTINOK mord, "That it nth opinion
of this bowie it is desirable that power 'hoer be
meted by act of Fribourg in the Board of Trade, or in
some other degareaset of the goverament, to Writer an
*airy into the ranee of any aerie= which maj roar
on railways, with powers to oil for an pares, and to r-
amble rimer oa orb ; aad that powers should be vested
ia suck tas frame sad issue from time to Nine
say • for the order of the traffic on railways
which may deem ammary for the safety and convening*
of the palthe ; and that all compares Pinews lis
the aeadect at railway Weak shall be bound to = to
sash regulations, under such plait= as may be prescribed
by act cl parliament."
Mr. JACKSON, in seeeedhst the resolution, complained
that the government would not smarm any rebility,
although they took power to override the rams; and
although they put tar of ao expires over segm=
It seemed Mb= Maple: that the Board of Trade should be
averse to do that by law which they at present dil ill gally.
Mr. THOMPSON said there was nothing that rawer
dinettes es much dried es the prusetiou of riders;
sad if he thought the adoption of the moire would
hinder • @Mile casualty from titre Mem it should have
his cordial support. But it appeared to him that the
motion we. both wtheaseasy and mieehisivous—unnecreary
because the Board of Trade already exercised the power of
Jaquith( into rides= ; earl gelsoblevou, became the
inevitable result of say kilolitres on the part of the
government in the working of Bass would be to increase
the numbecr ad.:ideate by_iattodaciairoceffictinsaathatitiss,
which waits *NW the Mame One upon another.
Sir F. SMITH meld not go the whole length of the
resolutios, which would throw upon the government the
reeponsity which now rested upon the railway com-
passes.
Mr. GIBSON Gould not °agree any better plea than
ending dowa skilled end disinterested inspectors to smear-
ter the ores of amides* and the publishing the rem% of
their brustiptiona, so as to bring the opinion of the tom-
trinity to boar upon the compara, and thus compel them
to adopt proper promethium. (Hear, bear.) It was said that
the inspectors of the Beard of Trade bad so legal right to
make these invertigatious; bat at all matte, it was dear then
the act of parliament contemplated such inquiries. In the
fiat place, it directed that when an accident occurrodareport
should be made to the Board of Trade ; and it also gave the
board power to seed iareetors over any line whenever they
saw At Putting thee two thins together, he thought it
obvious that the law intended to sanction the present sys-
tem. At all events, nothing, in his opinion, would be races
thjudicioas than to substitutefor it the plan proposed by
the motion. If they attempted to pat any °repulsion
on the companies they weeld find that thread of tisk arm-
ing formard,es theyblid now, and Peri the laspeetets all the
latoemation in thew power, they would inatual optimal, sad
eadeavor to put obstaske I. the way of what they consi-
dered a hostile proceeding. The moult would be that the
hurries of the government would not be nearly so nacos=
tut as they wirer preset. The boameenber for Whitby bad
referred to the royal =mimics which ma about to mat.
It was priestly true that the primary object of that was-
=erre would not be to Inquire into the quasi= of acci-
dents. (Hear, Mar.) Whoa, however, the boo. gentleman
saw the terms in which it was coached he wear find that
they included the =astir, whether it might be possible to
provide for the greater safety of the public travelling on
seaways. It would be premiere at this moment to ogres
to any negation 4 the kind before the house, and be
thought he had therefore given eufilcieot rearm why
the government should not comsat to it.
Mr. LEFROY =premed the patifiericei he felt at bear-
ing the stationer rif the President of the Board of Trade
with reprd to the terms el referee°. to the royal °ma-
ndrake.
Mr. HODGSON philtre= to any government department
isterfering in the manage eat of the railway system, toiler
they were also pap red to accept the responsibility for any
rl they might think prepay to lame.
ittiZtion was eerier without a division.
WAGES IN THE DOCKYARDS.
Mr. ?ERRAND drew Werke to the great inerelity
of wages paid in the royal and pinto dookyeeds, and eon-
tended that the artificers Is the former had a fair end
righters claim on the Admiralty to have their wages raised,
seeing that they received Si. a day lees than was paid in
private retablihreents. It was Wee that • superansuation
allowance was made in the grummet yar&, but that
mold not be regarded as wages ; became the country derived
great benefit from the impetrate/lion system ; three per
oent. only of the men ever get any pensions at all, and three
who did get them did not Me to enjoy them moos than
from three to five year AU the men asked for was an
biretta tit gad. a day all lOW, which would eaten an
rewriter* of about 70,0001. • year.
Sir J. ELPHINSTONE recurred in the views' gnus-
aired by Mr. Ferrari&
Mr. CHILDERE observed that the executive govern-
meat were respeasible for the management of the dock-
yards, and pared out the theoareisace that mast arise
from members represeating Pare where the dodger
men termed a emsiderahle parka of the oceriturey
coming forward and advocating in the House of Commove
as Mures of wages. Moreover, if the pay of dockyard
artificers were augmented they moat increase that of the
employes in the victualling yard, the public hospitals, and
every other goverumeat departmeat. The thorease of 6d.
a day in the wages of the dockyard men alms would for
the 16,000 persons of which they moist= smarm en
expenditure of 144,0001; but if the system were extended
throughout the various departments the relit would come
to a very alarming item indeed.
THE NAVY ESTIMATES.
The home laving goes into ossenittee of supply,
Lord C. PAGIsT moved the army estimative for the year
186666, rad in doing so stated that the sum be asked the
bore to grant moults to 10,706,6511, being • decrease of
316,4771 on the votes of last year, and 116,0001. on the
ordinary estimates. The number of men who were voted
for the arrest year, 1861-65, was 71,950, and he
that for the soar= Maria! year it should be 6157."4"di
or
2,200 ms. lees, this distributed-700 mimes for the Beet,
500 officer and, ere in the coast-guard, end 1,000 marier
on shore. The number of seagoing ships in commision
os the let of December bat, as compared with the Ist
of December, 1863, showed a degree of six, and
there was no sheep in the number °milometer&
Bat against there were four more armour ships, eo
that whilst there had been • redaction in the amber of
ships there had been an iscateee of fore& Referring to the
dockyards, the noble lord elated that the Admiralty were
oedema:ring to tarry out may of the reseemserkelsee of
the royal 00M11611111311 of 1861, and he hoped ere rpial a
regular balanerther at the tide, easoinpaniel by a eel
renal account. It was barmaid to construct dams the
enure firmial year 15,115 km of shipping against
18,902 in the sanest year. As to the armour-plated fie=
it sow cosieled al 30 ships, star maple% or be severed I
banding, red ell of these, with the exception al the Nadia
timberland, mod be ready by the dad oi the peeler
walsarlar ye= It wee also propomd to ceseirest, Is addi-
tion to etherships, • turret ship ea ClapieleCalegs_ peter*.
Is word he a thorough sergarg meek Atter pm
ing review tie arra heeds ezpeaMbere, the aria
bard Dried theramoure gimlet= • sheet tam since with
roped to the oopulardy of the &my as shown by the
stingsto have been eapideaold in mare.