The Express.
London, England, 1851-07-22 00:00:00

PUBLIC BUSINESS.

PETITIONS PRESENTED.
CRYSTALPALACE.—By Mr. REYNOLDS, from Knights-
bridge • by Mr. OSBORNE, from the owners of houses
near Hyde-park, and from the inhabitants of Brompton ;
by Mr. 01001tE, from a place in Ireland; by Mr. M.
GIBSON, from the Manchester Chamber of Commerce ; by
Mr. MOWATT, from Falmouth; by Mr. EWART, from
Dumfries; in favour of the retention of the Crystal Palace
as a winter garden.
REOMTRATION Or ASSORANCEi BILL. —By Sir CI
STRICKLAND, from solicitors of Preston ; Mr. NE WDE-
GATE, from attorneys and solicitors of Warwickshire ; the
Marquis of GRANBY, from Stamford; Mr. S. ADAIR
(place not heard) ; Mr. M. GIBSON, from the Manchester
Chamber of Commerce, and II petitions from freehold land
societies, &c.; Mr. SMYTH, from York; Mr. H.
BROWN, from Tewkesbury; Mr. CLAY, from Hull;
Mr. SANDARS, from Wakefield; against the Registration
of Assurantes Bill.
TILE SEWERS COMMISSION.
In answer to Mr. Ftrzaoy,
Lord .1. RUSSELL stated that it was the intention of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer to bring in a bill on this sub-
ject next day.
REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES BILL.
Mr. DISRAELI hoped this bill would not be pressed this
' session, but would be referred to a select committee.
(Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL wished to proceed with the second
reading that evening, but would not bring it on at a late
hour.
ARTICLES IN THE GREAT EXHIBITION.

In answer to Mr. NEWDEGATEp
Mr. C. LEWIS said that in general articles had not been
allowed to be removed from the Exhibition without the
consent of the commissioners of customs, and this special

pernxission had only been granted in one or two instances.
BARRACKS IN ST. JAMES'S PARK.

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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in answer
to Sir De L. EVANS, said there had been an intention of
making an addition to the barracks in St. James's park, but
that intention had been given up, and the buildings had
been suspended.
RAMSGATE AND MARGATE HARBOURS.
Mr. MOFFAT asked the First Lord of the Admiralty
why the report of the select committee appointed to investi-
gate the revenue, condition, and expenditure of Ramsgate
and Margate harbours, which recommended that all dues
and tolls now clamed from vessels not actually entering
Ramsgate harbour should wholly cease and determine, has
nut been carried into effect ; and whether it is the intention
of her Majesty's ministers to introduce a bill to carry out
the recommendations of the select committee.

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Sir F. T. BARING said that he had given considerable
attention to the matter, and had sent down a surveyor to re-
port upon the harbour, whose report and the recommenda-
tion of the committee had been duly weighed; hut he found
the regulations of the house prevented any bill being
brought in this session. lie did not say he wus fully pre-
pared to adopt all the recommendations of the committee.
In answer to Mr. Watt's,
Sir F. T. BAItING was understood to say that a bill
would be brought in next session.
'TIE CASE OF MR. SALOMONS. _

As the debate on the case of Mr. Alderman Salomons
' was adjourned till this day, and as it stood first in the
orders, there was a very numerous attendance of members
from four o'clock ; and about half-past four, when the
public business was entered on, the hcusc was crowded,
particularly so on the opposition side. Mr. Alderman
Salomons had entered during the presentation of petitions,
and had taken his feat on one of the raised benches, just be-
hind the rail which separates the seats appropriated to
strangers from those of the members.
The SPEAKER—Before putting the question that the
clerk do proceed to read the order of the day, I will read a
letter which I have received from Mr. Alderman Salomons,
as follows:

July 21.

Sir —I take the liberty to call your attennon to • very important
omission in the record of the proceedings 04 the house of Commons
on Friday last of an notice of my demand to subscribe the oath it ab-
juration, and to declare to my property outlifleations. Immedittely
a ter 1 dad taken the oaths I read from a paper which I held in my
hand the ful ow.ng word*: hare sow taken the oaths in tn^
loran and with the eeieueinies that 1 declare to be bidding on my
conscience, in he.orglance with the statute I and 2 Victor la, cap. 105.
I how dentate! to subscribe tile oath of abjorati in and to declare
to sty pr pert,. gratification." No notice bus been taken on the
proceeding• rl'Ase referred to, 01 my baring mode this demand.
You will thereture, I UM sure, Sir, pardon me for drawing your
attention to the subject, and reepeethally IN. wing ^hot the minutes
of toe pakeedlu.si of Friday last be *moiled. With the umaset
respect, I have the hmo or to be, Sir, your moot obedient and bramble
servant, DAVIS, SALuMONS.

I ought to state to the house that these proceedings were
very carefully prepared; and although what was stated by
the hon. member was perfectly inaudible in this part of the
house, yet it appeared to me that as this took place after
the oath of abjuration was tendered to Mr. Alderman Sa-
lonians, and the clerk had reported to me the emission, and
I had given the hon. member orders to withdraw, it was
therelore his duty to have withdrawn. (Hear, hear.) As
this statement was made subsequent to my having ordered
him to withdraw, I thought it was not right to cuter it on
the minutes. (near, hear.)
The Clerk then read the order of the day, which was in
the following Norm: "David Salomons, Feat.—Further
proceeding on administering the oath of abjuration."
Sir B. HALL—It may, perhaps, now be convenient that
I should repeat the question which I put to my right hon.
friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on Friday evening,
and which he requested should be repeated this evening,
when the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) was present.
The hon. baronet thea repeated the question, whether the
government considered that the course adopted by the hon.
member fur Greenwich on that day had rendered him
amenable to the Law, and intended to authorise the Attur-
ney-Oeneral to prosecute for the statutahle penalties?
Lord J. RUSSELL—I consider that the lion. baronet is
hardly authorised in asking me what the government will
or will not do upon the question of prosecuting a member
for having taken his seat without taking the earner abjura-
tion. (Cheers.) However, lam ready to say—leasing the
government at full Wien' to act as they think proper—that
they ure not at present disposed to think that they ought to
prosecute for the offence.
Sir B. BALL—Thin I shall state the course which I be-
lieve the honourable gentleman intends to pursue.
In consequence of the answer which the noble lord has now
given, I think that the only course which the hon. gentle-
man can pursue is to come within the house, to take
his seat within this assembly, to which he has been elected.
Mr. Alderman SALOMONS immediately rose from
where he was sitting, raised the iron rail which separated
his seat from those of the members, and, descending the
steps, walked up the house to about the middle of the '
front bench below the gangway on the ministerial side.
The bench was full at the time, but Mr. Aglionby,
gave place, and Mr. Alderman Salomons seated himself
between Mr. Baring nod Mr. Atistey. This was
followed by loud cheers, and a few cries of "Order" from
the opposition benches.
The SPEAKEIt—As the hon. member has not taken
the oath of abjuration as prescribed by law, I must, there-
fore, repeat what I desired on Friday last, and request him
at once to withdraw. (Cries of " Withdraw.")
Mr. Alderman SALOMONS sat still.
At this moment,
. a.

Mr. OSBORNirose, and advancing from where he sat
in the second row of benclus to the chair, placed a paper in
the Speaker's heeds.
The SPEAKER—The hon. member has placed • mo-
tion in my hands ; but as the question now before the house
is a point of order it will have precedence of all else.
Lord J. RUSSELL rose, but immediately gave way
again to
The SPEAKER, who said I think I ought to explain to
the house that if the hon. member refuses to obey the order
of the Speaker, it is for the house to support the Speaker;
and that order will be enforced by a vote of the house.
(Cheers.)
Mr. SALOMONS maintained his seat, and at this stage
of the proceedings was conferring with Mr. B. Wall.
Lord J. RUSSELL—It was for the purpose of support-
ing the chair that I rose. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me,
sir, perfectly clear, and it is a matter upon which I will
not waste any words, that the house ought to support the
Speaker. (Cheers.) Ido not believe that the Speaker has
authority to enforce the order he has given without a regu-
lar motion being before the house; and I, therefore, now
move that Mr. Alderman Salomon he ordered to withdraw
from the house. .

The motion having been seconded,
Mr. B. OSBORNE said—l visa to move an amendment,
the purport of which I have placed in your hands, sir ; and
I would beg of you, to save the time of the house, to read
that amendment.

Mr. ANSTEY seconded the amendment.
The SPEAKER—The motion is—" That Mr. Alderman •
Salomons be ordered to withdraw from the house ;" where-
upon
it is moved as an amendment, to leave out all the
words after " that," and to insert—" David Salomons,
Esq., having been returned to serve in this present parlia-
ment for the borough of Greenwich, and having taken the
oaths required by law in the manner most binding on him,
is entitled to take his seat in this house."
Mr. ANSTEY said the question was one of a judicial
character, affecting the right of the hon gentleman near
him to occupy the seat which he had most properly and
meat constitutionally taken. He conceived that a very ma-
terial error had been committed in the minutes of what
passed on Friday night. It stated there that the honour-
able member for Greenwich had not taken the oath pre-
e n e that t a thee n
scribed by law. Ile denied that the oathof abjuration was
an oath prescribed by law.epltwtyas.
hada
notstated
abjuration oath, assuming its l h
in the form prescribed by that house. He denied that the
house had prescribed any form whatever for taking that
oath. (Cries of "Divide.") Hon. gentlemen wished to
vote, to divide, and to unseat the hon. member for Green-
wich without inquiry. Wu it seemly, decent, or respect-
fal to themselves, thus to interrupt the proceedings? He
was determined to be beard, and would conclude with a
motion that the debate be now adjourned.
The house immediately divided—
For the adjournment
Against
Mr. Salomon, u,•ted in this division, and when hon. mem-
' buts returned from the division lobbies, resumed the scat
he had previously occupied.