The Express.
London, England, 1853-01-10 00:00:00

aeon to respond on this ossesisa. My bosourable friend
the member for SsHord, who always laughs when I teU him
so, but it is not less the feet, wham I consider as my politi-
cal father—(cheer and laughter)—would have been mach
more O:4 fisag, I think, at a napes.. such as I am expected
to smite and from his age, and long and justly-admired
character before his fellow-townsmen, I would gladly have
given way, that he should have Mles the place which I
sow occupy. However, for him and my colleague, whces
absence 1 regret also, *Cause he is aa admirable speaker at a
dinner—(laughter)---es well es on other occasions but on
behalf of both, and for myself I beg to say (sod 1 am sure it is
so) that they are very much obliged to you for the kind manner
in which you have received the mention of our names; and
1 may .y, that I led it to be a more than ordinarily and-
some moue of speaking of me, especially, which has been
adopted by the teatimes who has proposed this toast this
evening. (Cheer.) It waists about tweaty minutes to
eleven o'clock, and 1 woaldpiadly sit down now ; but perhaps
OM may be permitted to make two or three observations
which come rather nearer the business of the evening. I was
thinning while we ware esmeged on this sumptuous repast,
and l..tening to the spismiess, that possibly we were in some
danger of being miessissesed, fur some 3 year ago I had
She misfortune so dim a eammittee of the House ot Com-
mons to inquire into the duties and salaries of many official
personage, . an.l amongst others, of those persons engaged in
our diplomatic and consular services. One of the ministers
of this cougary to some foreign power, I forget which—
Spain. or Portugal, or Berlin—but really I fatget which it
was—was examined before that committee, and insisted
wpon it that the great point of diplomacy was good dinners.
(Laughter) He said—he did not say exactly, but the
committee gathered from what he said—that superior
to the secretary of legation, which I think is the name
of one of the persons connected often with missions
and embassies; superior to attachis, whether paid or un-
paid; in fact superior almost, or inferior only to the minis-
ter himself, was the cook who travelled with his establieh-
anat. kllear. hear.) Now, I was afraid that it might be
thought we had some design on the political virtue of the
honcurahle gentleman our guest to-night. If anybody sup-
poses we shall " take in " the United States minister, I can
assure hint he is very wide of the mark. I believe there
are min' at foreign courts who might be easily
taken in out from my own observations of American
atimt.ir- in th.s country for several years past, I would ad-
vise no Englishman to attempt to take him in. We are met
for sionling )1. &diplomatic character, fur I believe there are
reporters in the room, and everything we do is above board;
but we Are mot as • body of individuals, connected, by one
tie ur ahother, with this great 1:0111111%Inity, welvornn this
gent:, sum, who represents a nation which is looked on
with wonder and edmiration, certainly not only is this
moat: y. but in every other country in the world. Now, I
believe. in paying this compliment—l will not call it a
compliauut—but in offering our cordial good opinion and
levee.' to Ur. Ligetioll, we are oily doing that which all
the p yulauon of lauchester would sanction. And I be-
lieve, tie-thee, we are only doing that which all the popula-
tion, whirl..lie intelligent and good men,. in the United
Kingdom., would approve of. Now, there are little
things which acne occasionally that cause irritation be-
tween the two countries. I see by the papers that hove
unveil lure from America by the very last packet, as may
be seen from au extract of what I am about to mention in
the Tunes ttt yesterday or the day before, that there has
been a spree.: delivered by a very eminent men there,
General Cm-, who alludes to things said and done in
this country, which have an irritating erect on the
naiads of the American people, and I cooler I thought
his cue was not a very strong one. He quoted from
two papers certain observations made about the United
&etre, which he thought were calculated to have an ill
amt. Well, one paper was the Braomia; a paper that I
thiok I have beard of—(langliter)—but I don't know
whether more than ones or twice I ever saw; and I oer-
taint) never discovered a man who was • subscriber to it,
*es reader of it. The other paper was the Sim. The SIMI
is as evening paper, and, like all the London evening
papers. ref u moderate dualities. The evening papers,
like some °these are strangled by this stomp. They have
sot a free press, ;uid will wither alia AL But whatever
may be said in the Brieassua, er he Ssee. I do hops that
General Casa, sad others who red pogo, if thermos
to papers of so intimate In this eillsey7l MPg they
will not for one single momentsappM, diss ogress
the orinious of that elms and bad/ el the of
the country who Mom ma iafluemos t, and
whose opinion Amid be taken as the of the=
LAW of the Vaned Kingdom I put It
Is them. Suppose I Rooted tertian things that I have read
is the .heir l orh Herald, sad say that Is the epiedss of the
Amene.an legislature sad people, but that wadi be a libel
rams both ; and I hope whilst there lei host awitavy sad
Is this, great freedrmi both es the phew" smil is the pm,
Oat wisest as of both sonatries will Mara that there
is something far higher, sad Are deeper, and he potter in
both countries than is to be expressed or dmeribeil, or
moved by the irritating observed's@ Meow einem *tribe
who say "int* his absurd session to Mc seisms of some
obscure paper. (Cheers.) lam tee Ameba the
ioatitu-
boas and the course of America wish a Maims bat friendly
gym I would copy, so far es Imo. an diatis good in that
asuatry, and if them is asyddeg That I thought evil, I
would remark upon it with nips% but is the most
*tatty spirit—and the very Acct thing I would
attempt to utter would be say somas* that should
have a tendency to irritate the people of that country.
If the Americans canto kers with their advice, and
is an unfriendly spirit, and thought of dragging us into a
change of policy on any question, we should take preasely
tits mune the Americans now take when over-zealous peo-
ple in this country think it necessary to Interfere with
them. (Loud cheers.) Perhaps this is hardly the occasion
he saying much about the *dieser the iamitatiess of the
United States ; but I have a great authority, • sobleman
who only a month ago was prime minister, who attended a
dinner at Liverpool within the lost two or three days, and
there descanted, in his usual able manner, on same of the
lastita'aons of the United States. He endeavoured to draw •
push- between the senate of the United States and the
Zagliah House of Lords. I shall express here no opinion
as to whether the House of Lords is or is not the best legis-
lative amembly we could have as a second chamber in this
usury. but I mast altogether protest against ,this Wet of
argument Lord Derby entered upon. Bear in mind
that the senate of the United Buttes is as firmly Bald is
their representative system as the House of B.epreessta.
time. Bear in mind that whatever storms and wok=
disturb the public mind in the United States, the senate
if that country is ultimately the most powerful body to
laduence and to control public opinion. Oa the matrary,
is this country, our Hones of Lords, having as oath
Smadations, finds Omit, whenever there is a tamale of
political excitement, not able to control, sew* able to
shack, but always is compelled to yield. I will net ester
hate the question whether there is an easy pewee from
linable life to the membership of the Hamm of Leeds. I
should be the very last man to suppose tint it would be an
advantage to me, at any rate, to become • member of such
a 'Weber as that ; but all offices, why the aim of the Em-
peror of the French was open to any man thetesuld get It,
sad so is the House of Lord • but the goalies width Lord
Derby did not timch was this, whether it be advisable that
say class of men in the country, in any position, should have
the exclusive privileges which our constitutioa gives to that
hasty. Now, lam expressing no opinion on it, and should
never have touched it, if Lord Derby had not, oa an mow
mica like this, entered into a defame of his order, and 41111.
IleavOuted to persuade the people of England that is their
Mouse of Lords they have an assembly of equal wisdom,
soma character, equal patriotism, and equal durability
with the august senate of the United States of Amnia&
(Cheers.) Now, we are very much in this country—per•
haps the hon. gentleman's countrymen are the same is
America—afflicted with prejudices and afraid of whet
exists elsewhere. I have been reading lately a MOM ai
*sable work, which I would recommend yon all to Mad ff
you want to know anything of America, a work write=
by a predecessor of the hon. gentleman—l mean Mr. Base
croft's " History of the Colonisation of the United States,"
just now going on as the " History of the United Sta=:
and 1 believe a more interesting and more
radially written, and mot truthful iskilary of a•
country was probably
history, that 220 yews ego, is a stare of the United
Bates, there woo the willed nap sal rob by ballot.
They remain still. I dad Is that some note, 200 years
op, there was as mid pared begins/mg with them
remarkable words, " re the and that lensing may ad be
buried in the pores of arm gaehthemisssad this 111
west on to mart this whimmorthmatiosmieftekitamillitiff
one home should be mit iquert to hash he mamma Oa
✓est ; and wherever there woos MIS had Awn
should be established a_psinsmwatissi astonish.
so that they be Id* wish ethos marald, to ester
a university ; and Mae I Sail OM things midi wo are now
discussing—some people with tormsr, oases with =
pursuit,—that these very hies have bees In
ewe in a state of the Visited States ter mere than
two hundred yew, and that an Wale Individual in
that country Meow" gilled is heaths their wisdom or
their Issmeilmil Mills. But then is andbor thing that we
lad IMOD. OM to my 'strew disilitt,r4lo gat that 200
yoss•Ala, in dm mutton's state of laid, there was
sobldishol tM besot rolisloos Warty.ax
yiolled hiss the 11~lien OM of V' the
.26..100001P1im0r 'Wald 61100 14ww bah head a
Islip My of Baltimore, by die sada&
Ithimwo. Theo things we am smisading he, and
as. mat fairly established yet la this Salidlly, I an Maui
thole hinge for the pupsso of Mewing biome yea my
ors omantrymmi, bat near Is show thin we may llama
to sod the Iskarry, of lima ovary, sad einem how sohly
wade lustitatiollll bras worked there, sad we may biome
mhos hir in the ezassinaticia of was ows condition, and,
gmlip, may odd to the pmgesm, the wise and beneficial
c.c. which political offs" la my *aim, are making
country. W• must hoes In mind, that they
have education, not thwarted by theology or by sects; that
&glove religion as sash as we Moe, thoighno stet is
Midst ; that they have legal reforms, although they have
tee heed chancellor with 14,0001.
tassethat they have
arsenal per, without any peat s way ; tho=a
hays isspod abroad and how all the of the
IMMO Pod egvainno an any magi dal Isrerse, we
way low is isti dist they bale an aildisrßh IBMs et
roprossatation roam Won* mai via, they
have a general elegies it is sot • sada af mama haw
sensation throughout every potties Mao emallrli as It 14
unfortunately, with ate. Now I soy hot dismo ors merely
bets which all men, whether they ogres with we party or
soother in polities, may at beat fairly leek at, 'dwe may et
least learn charity with regard as ether countries, ifsome of
us ore not ready to learn wishes sod&Vow every good ea-
maple that say be set us. I ball am inter into a question
whelk I feel to be somewhat apart ham that shoat whisk
we are assembled ; but I said we bat the high andinsity
the late Prime Minister, who shimmered as thaw that
Iwo were emspMalo of swindismos whisk I think are not
plain el romna Did ea this we all agree; for
awn speaker Vile bid WINS *sight has dodo It aunt