The Express.
London, England, 1856-05-06 00:00:00

(Stamped ld. Additional.) [TWOPENCE.

Stratford, the noble earl west en to esy, deopirregrOtted
and deplored kit neglect of the eousaiesioner at Han; ,cad
to do the noble !mikado, at • later period, when is wee t
late, notWng was emitted on his pan. Bat what beaus' of
the noble t who bad stated that Lord Stretford did
enrols's' that nu Goad do, and that he did mre o than
Onsend William desired ? (Cheers.)
The Rail of CLARENDUN would really like to know
ea what authority the noble earl attributed those Orman to
his noble friend.
The Ban of NALEESBCRY—The speak was nude on

tit; irstof ay.
The Earl of DERBY—TM authority was sartaialy warn
what irregalsr bat it wan, amertheless, Num reliable than
now of the public doomsau which were laid as th• tablet
A• Wm. (Laughter.) Lord Stratford was the spat of
the gemumciet ; sad be (Lord Derby) did sot Walt that
hi amiset had any material affect apes the fats of Kars
tShot that urfarament Itself was prim:tipsily resposabie.
hithht the sapsistastrat of General William was a my
bettabb sae attasidoriag the pceitioa he hold ; bat what
Ma that positloa t enteral Willis.., they were told, was
Is she Ottumwa it. precisely what Sir Ragh Rose was to
aim !nosh. He had ao power as astkortty, ao right. It
ems tree sat Miss aordlisry ma he took apes Wm-
Ili fie boom% that which the Man of Ms ammissium
Mat t sad if, whoa It became MLA that
G.- mast either b• virtually tisprrem or that be
must foil, ha had boos supported by her Majesty's
'oversewed, Ears wield at that sumat ham Ism pm-
viliosad, sad It would have bees mad. (Rear, Mac) If
General Williams had had the authority, the mom the
mass with which be might sully hays bora mendied.
Ears would atom ham boa taloa s for It had hies bus
hulas sad am from war. (Chem) Therefore. he Omni
H•rby) maistaimid that it was sot spa Lord SUGHtik
upon ber Majesty's grutrumest, that the Mama EMI reel
(Rear, Mar.) He (Lead Dirty) had thought it lb baby to
follow his sable friard through hr stalemates with
is Lis, bat he maid am have dam se U the geode=
we
bane dim* spa the teem of tae treaty. Hs
W listammi with admiration to the elo•
ti=of the awls sari who had latrodaoad
riar. ead at the noble bares by whoa ha had
liess followed; let witboat moaning say disrespect to
them belie be met &dare that ap to the time whoa
all Mai NMI Ilebseebury) me to address their
reedeldre the Imes bed set Lard a single syllable with TO-
Wiyilf the =MON the advantages, Of the defects of the
(flew. bor.) Ha did tho &obis hams imjasties
the aohl. bane dll advert tease poiat ha the treaty, sad
be that be gave her Majesty's goverameat groat praitit.
ant that was a maditioa obtained not frosa a *army, bat
de m a friaad—the katti-asheriff of Christiaas—whish be
Meld suave tho sable boron was granted, am by Russia,
hut by Turkey. (Laughter.) Pirhapt the *obis lord
Meld allow Mal to *Mona his likewise, if ha did not al-
sanagalknnw, that that hatti-icheriff did not form one of the
of the treaty.
Led °LEMMAS—I said so.
nu Earl of DERBY—The hatti-soluriff, which the sable
lord had Mom to be the object of ao mash praise, was ass
an article of the treaty at all. " Bat," said tic. no
llest."
if yes bad got aothing she, you have got that width h
wants all the war has cost. It is not a part of the treaty;
but we have extorted "—such was the noble bra's pbrsas
sat med the ungrudging eceseat of Turkey to it."
(L..ght.r.)
Lord OLENBLO—I sever seed sack a phrase.
The Earl of DEBBY—I beg the noble lord's pudon :It
was the noble earl who talked about " aatorting aa
graded useat."
To. Earl of ELLESMERE (who rise amidst post
. _ which

lavighter)—The sable sari Wads; to as espressioa
fell from s. is the course of sty 'pad. I said, sad I %Hi
most, that the British army had 'started '• aagrudgisi
atiosirstioa" Iron their humor amnia& (Cheers and
&atwitter.)

Lord DEBBY—WeII, I don't exactly understood how
what is extorted" eau be said to be " ungradged."
(Laughter) However, that was • woe emitter of verbal
nicety. What bad in him (teed Does) to follow
the noble earl (Lord Clereadon) was the statement he had
made that the fall of Yams bad made no dillareate whatever
to the terms of the treaty. He woe net gong to dwell as
the esajnotios or the jaatepositioes of the articles is the
treaty, ea the subjoin of which his noble freed (Lord
hielemeenry) had made sentare whhh the eoble earl imp-
rints sold he had done in ignorance. Wherever the a-
tele to which he wee going to allude was *oil, its effect
seemed glen Whes the miniseries of puce were
agrsed Lion, then was no restitation of territory os the
part of Rana to be treated of. Russia had taken no terri-
tory, sad enoquatly the *signal preliminaries of pun
bet link that in whinge for the fatified position and ter-
ritory occupied by the allied armies, Bans would consent
to a enlaced= of the hiler of Turkey is
Baron. Bat before the signature of the treaty Russia
had becomes possessed of Here and a considerable part
of Anatolia; bat whoa the restitution of Kars was brought
upon Ike taple, the Ruske plenipotentiaries expressed •
bops that in the coarse of the negotiations credit would be
gives them for the consemeloa which they had ono.
(Hen, hear.) The resale was that an important •Itcratioa
was anon the restilleatin ef the boundary as • counter-
poise for the 'Gelatin Mien. And then the noble earl
had the name MIMI the house that the fall of Kars bad
had so ninon apes the emulation (Loud cheers.)
' What was this reeifleatioaef which the 'noble earl made so
light ? ENO vas a district of 300 miles in heath and 30 or
40 miles fa breadth. The Ronne gave up both banks of
the Denbo sad of the Froth, with 30 or 40 miles of terri-
tory to the east of the latter. Bat the noble earl
raid that that was an incenvenient line—it was marked out
sot by mountains, but by • mere elevation of land. Bat
what was a more coannient or a more usual boundary, not
Duly of territories bat of properties, than that it sr oak!
Wends the whole watershed and the neuron of the river,
whetter such watershed was detersal_ed In. • chain of
mountain, or by • mere elevation of land / What, is feet,
tk • noble earl had gives up was 150 miles of territory,
30 or 40 miles broad. Hs had brought the Manion beck
epos the Peen, and had given thou • d rind command
of that river. (Hear.) Bet again. Where was sow
Jassy, the ospital of Moldavia ? Coder the original atheist
there would have been 40 or 60 miles between' it and the
Remiss territory. Now, the Raisins bad bees snowed
to approach the stream, over which there was a end bridge.
Formerly, in fast, then was a looked door of which Turkey
would have had two keys; sow Turkey would have one
and Reads the ether. (Hear' hear.) Bub was the differ
ewe in the mew hooter which had bees made by the fell
of Harr (Cheers.) He should like to know what were to
become of the two foghorn of hind aid YilinoVa ? Wen
they to be rased ?
Lord CLAY lINDON—They are to be restored to Turkey.
Lord DERBY—The y are to be restored to Moldavia.
Led CLARENDON—WeII, that is Turkel' territory.
Lord DERBY—Fes; but I am sot sure whether it is
not Turkish territory that enact be occupied by Turkish
troops. (Hear, bear.) Masse those fortresses could be
gar/noon by Turkish toren, they would constitute no
security for Turkey. ((Chows.) la the heat plies what was
to beano of Whelan/ / Was that to be dismantled or
donned ? The 'obis earl might sow lad it consuient
to argue that we had no right to insist upon the dine's.
Oleg of that forties, but sash was not his opiates at Paris ;
for be had there demanded its destruction. (Hear, hut.)
The Black Basins to be neutralised, bat what was to pre-
vent the Emperor building any member of ships at Nice.
ff V It was true that he had promised to give up Nioo.
Wel—that was recorded in on of the protocol., but it was
au mended is the treaty.
Lord CLARENDON—He has intend into as engage-
ment to gin it up.
Lord DERBY—Yin bat that segagement would net be
Mediae non he anosessor. There was motels, to the runty
to prevest the building of say number of ships at Nioolaiell
—aothiag to p the menstruation of Bibeatopol
seder pretence of bong a cossatercel port. The nest so
built might be floated down the river, and plena ono more
bellied the impregnable guns of flogaitopol. What then
world brooms of the neutrality of the Banns ? (Hear
hoer.) Bat it was said that we wen to have nasals in the
Black Bes. Bat Nieolsieff was not os the shores of the
Black Bea; nor was the Bea of MAI any portion of it.
We had, nerefore, so right to have nasals in those import-
Mat pines. (Hen, hear.) With noun to Kieran the
sable earl seemed to think we had obtained so successes
which Gadded he to interfere. He (Lord Drrhy) did not
understand what the sable lord meant by successes; but
he should have thought the ozonise of oar fints would
litzlestien our toning as the sates file bang mon-
there, and on the forts we had dsoloored boin
not rebuilt. (Hear, hear.) Thew, again, noting When
rattled with regarl to the Cireasiian tribes, who 'formed a
'net impotent barrier against Rusin aggressima, sod
against dangers to Turkey. Oa that point, be considered
that there was • egad defect ta the treaty. (Cheers). '1 he
position ia which they had left the Principalities also dessan-
clod genus reprehapain. If there was one thing on which
it was assemery to some to an nadentandiag, it was the
preen seastitatiois of the Principalities which formed the
barrier Interns Russia sad Turkey. But what had been
done? The Balms was to hold a divan ad Ace, to
annuls the wishes of the people. Thee the ass.
IP acting powers wen to appoint a 0011indwilis
for no same purpose ; aid both bribe were after-
wards to rt to another congress, which was to settle the
oonstitatlos of the Primate/Wiles. Such a trans& cos-
eluded • trees, sad tot a peace. (Cheers.) It left ors
oodles osowiess of dispute ' • it did not do that which night
have bola doss ; and it did not settle the imp teat ones-
tone lavoneL (Hear, hear.) There's another pont, con-
dined thimble earl, bet it is of too mash importance to •
dealt with lauldeatally on a debate upon an address. It to
a quelloo, however, which I teapot pest over even to-night
without walselog my protest, beth menet the act Itself, end
moo the maim, Is whin it was don—l mean that
dootwolits of law whisk we have, for the list time, intro.

dosed late oar sods against the opinion of every etatiremsa,
sad which, notwithstendisg many foreign combinstioas,
we have till now saosesofally resisted. (Cheer'.)
The Earl of CLARENDON here made a remark.

IFit; Earl of DERBY—But we did nut repeal the corn
law by the unauthorised set of a plenipotentiary. (Loud
chermi.) The corn laws were repealed after full discussion
tie peritemeat, with the full knowledge sad with the con-
sent dhoti' homes. (Cheer') This surrender of our ma-
ritime gape emacy_hse been yielded, I know not under what
eireamstanese. The protocols give no information on the
subject; there is ree discussion recorded ; no account given
as to the objeets to be gained by it. There
is no statement as to whether it was the relati-
fs!, set of the British minister; but this I know,
Wet whether right or wrong, whether the voluntary cur-
my der of a British minister, or conceded to the feoliogo, the
preindiees or the desieee of other natione, it was given up
With.ollt the knowledge of parliament by the minister who
was trailed by his country, antLsent to conduct its impala-
none, but who took Meetings of his position to make as la-
pmtastt alteration in our maritime Itw, without the kest
idea on thepart of any ose as to what he was going to de.
(Cheers.) Take is too large • qusstlon to be argued here;
'but I should have thought Spell unworthy of se
seat in year lewrishipe beams lf I did not eater
my pretest @gift an act which has Mind me
with mingled'amesishisent and indignation. (Cheeps.) The
treaty itself I sceept,aa I believe the country will, with some
degree of reluctance. Ido not, God knows, ferret, but I
greatly rejoice, that we are spared frcm the homes and
calamities inseparable from war. I hope, for more than I
trestvthat the peace which you have concluded will be
durable. Ido act regret that we have ekowo moderation
in the hew ofsemass. I donut regret that that magoiaseat
anal enhibitioa which we witnessed the other day should
Ilani Orme only when the services of oar fle. t were no
Myer imitated. I am willing to believe that that ezhibitlon
dear naval power km had was influence is facilitating the
negotiations fee poses; sad I am saliva that that resat
naval Grimmest shall be the last ezhibitioa at once of the
greatness of the ratios and of the incepts*, of its &Maisie-
tratios. (Laughter and sheers.) I say, Ido not regret that
more bleed wee sot shed. I do not regret that we have
SOSO to terms of pates. I unwept this peace,even suet as it is
bet when you sail spots use, in my place as a peer in parks-
moat to say that that puss has fatty effects* our °liens, I
caseet assent to that which I amain feel, and I meat Mee
my vote to the ameadsmat of my noble friend. (Bear,
hear.) I do not mess to trouble your lordship to
divide, but I wish to record my ()pinkie that the
words of this address are not jastiked by the feels.
I know that the nation will meat to the poses, became
it would gladly ripen from VOL It is a peace which it
does not hail with isthmian', but which it ascepts with
reluctance; and which, in my cpinioe, will do no great
bosom, to the administration by which it has been nego-
tiated. (Loud cheers.)
Earl GRANVILLE would not go into the reagent
why they were not entitled to inflict humiliating
conditions on Russia which were not included in the pro-
positions. The Earl of Derby stated that Bebsstopol eon-
tinaed to be a standing menace to the Turkish Empire, sad
that nothing would be easier than fur the Antolini to re-
build the town and fortify it anew, and to Goa/cruet within
those fortifleatioes commercial docks capable of holding war
vessels of any sin. Why, would not this be a direct initiation
of the treaty ? And if Russia were to re-establish
decks—cell them commercial if they liked—and to fortify
those docks, would not the treaty be broken ? The noble
earl alluded to the Caesarians. Colonel Loyd had found it
impossible to some to an understanding with them. The
noble earl spoke as if her Ilejeety's plenipotentiary was
sitting by himself, In his room at the Foreign cffice, dic-
tation despatches to some subordinate, who was bound to
o.rey out his Intentions. TO, TO were other plenipoten-
tiaries, of aloes, as well as belligerents, to whom we were
opposed; and he asked whether the war ought to have been
prolonged Weems arrangement' were not tattle with the
Cireamians ? He would not follow the noble earl
le his disquisition on maritime law ; but he thought,
when they were galled upon, they should show
that bee Majesty's government had strictly followed
prosodists, end that not only was the settlemeat
that was made foe the advantage of mankied gem-
rally, bat in particular was for the seeming, of this nation.

The Earl of ABERDEEN said it was not his intenUon is
enlarge en the sabjeet et the war, but he wished to say that
while that we so men erhe bad everyman genteelly dame-
sated the calamities of war rhea he had, so there was u•
man who more cordially rejoiced in the restoratloa of peace.
He rejeneed that the warlike reputation of his noble friend at
the heeded the government had rendered it more easy to make
peace than it would have been ander his (Lord Aberdeen's)
suspicion The treaty was nor indeed of that triumphant
chorister which it was hie good fortune to be one of those
who agreed la the earner capital forty years ego, but it sore
a treaty which had fulfilled, amply fulfilled, the objects for
which they undertook the war, and as such ought, there-
to., to be satisfactory to every reasonable man. fie enter-
tatted no doubt that whatever objections they might hear
now, the treaty would hereafter meet with the appro-
bation of the country, for it wee a remarkable feet
in the hbtory of the last century that all our treaties
of peace, however unpopular at the time they were made,
had always ultimately bees sanctioned by the deliberate
opinion of posterity. There were one or two articles is the
treaty to which he would refer in the hope of obtaining 0:-
planation. The fret wee what was called the neutralisation
of the Black flea. He wee at a loss to understand that. He
wooled to know how it would operate. Buppoee Runs
had reason to apprehend an attack by a Turkish fleet spin
them, did they wan to sitarist** Russia against it, or if
they did not guarantee them would they prevent
the Readans prepsrisg for their defence ? They might my
it was not probable that Turkey would attack Russia, and
is ordinary eireastataaers it was not probable, but they
could not tell what ecosbinatose might tat• Vacs with
other power, that would give Turkey the means and the in-
clination to attach Roane. The only other article to which
he would refer was in reference to that act of the Saban
which conferred privileges on his Christian subjects. NO
perms mold more rejoice at that act than he did,
nor give more credit to Lord Stretford de Redoliffe
.for
the ability which he bed °mitered in effecting thatobject.
This set of the Bolus having bee* eommun4cated by him to
the chartroom, the contracting sower. said in the treaty,
that they reeogaised its value, but that it was dearly under-
stood that it mild not give them a right to interfere, either
irilleigioaly or @spaniel', in the relations of the flatten with
hie wages* and the internal administration of his empire.
New be knew enough of the state of Turkey, to know that
Withest the mutant superiatendence of the eontraetieg
rowersoeleseure its ereautios, this hatti-icheriff would not
be worth the paper en which it was written. If they were to
be prohibited from interfering, the Christiana in Turkey
would be worse cff than before.

Lord COWLEY, who was reosived with acne cheering,
said it was with elf ram diffidence that ha promoted himself
to their lordships, personally unknown at ha was to the
gn at majority of them, from his bog residence abroad, and
speaking la public t►sn, for the first time for many yeas,
in England ; but having boas ocgamid in these nogotiations„
and having, wit► his noble Maid the flismotary for Foreign
Affairs, pat him none to the treaty, be should be wanting is
respect to the house, if he ad sot make some observations
upon it. (Cheers.) He would address himself to the few
questioas pot by the cable earl who had lest spires, and
firstly, sa to the neutrolhatioa of the Black Sea.

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The inquiry wee, whether if Turkey should attack
Russia, the allies would come to the animate°. of Ramis ?
That point had been discussed. It was laid down as • ge-
neral rule that if sitter party violated this condition of the
treaty the alas would go to the assistance of the other
patty. (Hear, hear.) But that cue could hardly arise,
becease the parties to the treaty bound theasseires not to
tedemit say act of aggremion without Firing the other
powers as opportunity of meeting the difficulty. With re-
gard to the woad gaieties, as to the Christie's, and the
hattivelteriff concereitig these, the intention wee not to
limit the power of diplomatic interference—that wee ex-
pressly stated—but to prevent any direct loterferenee la the
leftmost goverament ot Turkey. The noble earl (Aber-
deen) might ham as opportunity of makes" any inquiries
about It of the (rand Varier, who would shortly
be In Borland, and woald be ready, he was sure, to Rive
him informatics. is the present dietession he rd Cow-
ley) thought too little stress bad been laid on one view of
the matter. The treaty had been deceased too much as if
England alone were a party to it on one side. (Hear, hear.)
It should be remembered that other posers were engaged I.
this trensactioe that we w. re sot alone, and that, in feet,
whoa we satioreil labs this alliance we gave up all inde-
pendent maims, both in the el:tuitions of war sad In sego-
tiatioo. With regard to the operations of war, he thought,
if we had been able to set with an undivided ct samand, ww
should have been le a mach better position than now.
(Hear, hear.) Lad that was tree, mere or lets, with regard
to the negotiatioss for peace. We hed been obliged to take
into sonsideration what were the wishes and ideas of the other
powers which west along with us lathe negotiatio•' sad we.
weld act set entirely upon our own. (Hoar, hear)
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Rail GRIT felt deeplygrateful to the prerusseut for
Maas 'limbed se greet sa &OMNI to the preprint of civili-
sedw and hemealty, m had beat made la g rim up the
powers we formerly exercised against martial at sm. Lock-
lag at its present snits of the world, it was impcsable that
sash alba sad latolemble powers could be ezetessd at
this time without involving us in hostilities with al the marl-
thus mitioas of the world; sal thereto,. we had greet
reams to ridelee mow that our goisramout, without ear
rairphies of Its las; evnawsi by say 011bel, had Togs& -
twill abeadosed thus rotas. (Chem.) With marl to