The Express.
London, England, 1862-04-08 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY
.EVENING, APRIL 8, 1862.

Last year there was no alleged surplus, and it was thought
by many that it would have been better to apply it to the
reduction i f • tax instead of the satire rernimioe of met
while others opposed the repeal of the paper duty
on tl.: gown,' that them was no surplus ut all.
Horne gentlemen also urged that in the critical
state of American affairs something might arise
which might cause an addition to our military ezpendi-
tore. The suggestious were scoffed at, but in the result
they have literally been fulfilled. It was also said that the
calculation of the moues to be received from China
(750,0iiii/.) wan erroneous. and that out more then half that
sum would be received, and that prediction had also
been fulfilled. The right hun. gentleman, with the ob-
ject of showing that in other respects the financial
management of Mr. Gladstone was fallacious, took a
review of the state of finality front 1858, and referring to
the circumstances of the accession of the present govern-
ment to other, be took occasion to say that they replaced
a gov,ronient on a measure of parliamentary reform
which they had introduced, and on the unibentsed-
ing that they were to settle the question of valkons.
sad them wax no doubt that they had elleetmily
settled it. That being so, Mr. Gladstone was net
for the finance of laldio ; but in the
Me
We pan be had full and uncontrolled am the
limitil el this country. Thew two VMS lad 3111111•11 be
• united deficiency of MIAOW" and these wens the yeses
et
rth:iir of rlar arrangemmte el the French treaty and
the the paper amp ; bel which the reve-
nue the country had bus seticilipateesd in the shape
ellseeme hex and malt smith by 3,500,001 X.; and this
at • time when the serer was supported by war
tars le Neat el passes sad when the &tore& on the
nalienel debt bed bra tared 2,000,000 f. by the lapse of
Nit Len herelthe. The deficit had been supplied by
err ea the Wham in the Exchequer, sad by stopping
repinssis r i wow into the &cheque!. He denied that
them pan were exceptional ones, and so justifying this
Meted ebe& Ile denied the assertion that the sateesadebt
had bees dinirrod by 4,000,000 f., for there we. only an ap-
parent _L 'w of something over a million and • quarter.
(Hear, bear.) What are our prospects ? Where are we if
anything occurs this year ! What if there be • retard
lull of trade? What if there be that which the right hors.
gentleman contemplated—a great increase in the want ef
employment of our people ? What if there be that white
boo. gentlemen on either side contemplate ea more Hasa
possible, if critical circumstances should osier, either is
America. or Europe, which may call for theresall
tare ? Where is the surplus for us to fall ha& sposTrlarti
chum) The abolition of the paper duty wee week( hem
a reluctant House of Commons, and in defiance of the
solemn protest of the other Howie et Parliament. (Cheers.)
Whatever may have been the filly of the rn,nistrie we may
yet appeal to history to viudicate the wham of puthmut.
(Renewed cheering.) It becomes cow • moat itex. Udder
us to consider what may be the polities el this caastryin aloe
Mama& Mortice is called fur. TM statemsnt of the
right hoe. gentleman an that subject was eves mom alum-
Mg, almost, than those useruits of Ilassolal dimmer which
cinuot looser be seemssleted. (Ohems.) The wholesome&
of the right bon. opsetiume where he referred to lazatios
seemed bessd epos the mina* that the Income tax wee
to be a pennies& feature el oar lisaseiel system. The
right hoe. (esthetes refund to ball • doers other taxes
which he could not repeal-Mme of 'dike be whew& bat
which he could not repeal bemuse he had en sad
the whole team of the renede of the rig& hrs.
was that the therms tax was to be • permanent .7711
taxation. Is that the opines el the Home el Ominous I
la it the opinion of the country t (Chem) I mikes&
myself the vision I have sites sword, that Ide eel
believe it pueblo that the ismese tax is its present hem
tea be • pesermasei hater of or AMES& Hoed
cheers.) And although I have Mesa to every
eggenstion that has bees made, eel erefired every sag-
germs without partiality and with valise& I have l&
toned to so amentillo solsties of the &Scalia seeseeted
with that tax which would be aelistadery tiv the Treasury of
her Majesty. The tat seniors =equal, unjuit, inquiei-
tegisl branded with Or ameskir -al ihiny which the
eight hon. gentlern be WU is liege.* and with welt
purees sapeemles ark le the imi_vih hie i made the IMAM
d his met eseekkeable eel at the roe time his mot
fellesisse ihmasial aehralha. Mead them ) We bed •
right to Genet that the right bee. ralisma would have
spokes haship el* awl le dal tax Ara berme to repeal
tazatkat. (Ilisr.) The right Ire gentleman her no right to
fritter away the eersewees el the scurry and have that tax
uatcambei. There ia io the Maims&
of Wright aelraratherribillial) is the frequent shirr
we imam Whir he ware be this Mute--it was obvious
the ether sight, sad is el seek essemen retool with him,
that I Mal h mg est, le arks it on this oacriou —tbsre is
orb= limateezalthjahl hak. gentleman zh:llb,
esastey • sweeTeS't err led pugheity butvrebetrese ;
and that Is the 'ay the nail Ira midiums. who without
parallels the -eta palm lemma IMAM; that err si-
mmered the ffille rernirky is ger% h hangerelly
issiewsling—l re the Widest terrie the beer mad the
imealn *al he illzczal the exprilletro,and la burs-
I, leg teirearwe ) Imy list is sot • legitimate
esellieu f. the bee. glare= le essegy. II be
dingier et the heeler eagewillswe teleg ems he sit
wren the bear sad halt to its easeleser sad saferos-
smut A the sorority of his eberwater, and all the
beim el hie reputation. (Cheers.) If no the contrary he
=stria rpes- then it Is hie thity.se a Ileum
tapielelly, est le inkit Batheirerat the=
bet rarer I. serer Am sager lbraitabls
Thiel they reed bees lid saris their esie rge when he,
1 =rmay be cafe/ Ira le MUM UNIr burdin&
bear.) Illni main el the kind; the right hoe.
I gualismaa never papaw a vote—sad it falls to him always
temp= the marl rotas that any minister in time
el were err 1111111 ti--be sow dee the without
•• ielbselies he arm sr ershisa la Ye hmet the
I sessesee Ilia be essemmande to the hoer (C
hue But
the cwt ponies earobtained by this seednet the
sled esgpest of a party is this house--est yet
wmy siammene ie point of =must, bat at the sere time
Mbegsmmtm by its Warta. and by its
awl bp rte integrity—a party, who are ;:trirTitE
tie el ear establishments and for
el ere expenditam. How is it that that •party, whii see la
freer d sereashasat and reductioe, who bellies Simla
sew eihribleo sell agesially our rind and military et
ma.,en we tea eseusirs, who are opposed. jo
serreorbeie sot meek Ilk iron shipe7hoe is it that this
clip diszeAs surrtiss iniattere.diwnghz is
imbrioging forward
Um? Well, that ins pent question. (Cheerliaand laughter.)
Mathis we know, that while this speodtbnft is v
ever peer, while this penurious prodigal is pragesingelt:
r
esoluess expenditure, he can always contrive Ile
sane tax to (ratify the interest or the follies of • ) ' el
this description. (Laughter.) No wonder, then, has/
logger hear the same character of the incase W; we
weeder that we no lacier are rasoiseled al the erner
which was ratified by the house ands= baboszsents3
for its gradual end permanent
And I earedve that unless the house exam= ea a Attlee
armies he opinion, there is very little begs of our
earredos nin this revpset. (Ham We.) That
f.=.6.ldi.k. of vegy meth kapiessais: I member
err pre age, when the ilea% hr. relleemei we at the
bud elf a small and select party of politicians, when he wee
sr shisrhat in the gulf & liberalism, tier we bred rash
digremp about political morality. What nisi
=lit hon. gentleman axid his swab, lei
was their monopoly of that sisagnig
a.skter.) They were perpetually thealing
lien sot like other men, and always pointing their kyr
at thou unfortunate eights who sat opposite to UMn ea
this side of the house. (Laughter.) Now we see the We
of political morality. (Laughter.) We see the pat lee
' into which political morality has besought oar finances. (Hsu)
I denounce that system as one detrimental to the character
of public mm, and most iejurlous to the fortunes of the
tea. (Loud and prolonged entering.)
Mr. BASS was onions to obtain from the Chaocellor of
the Exchequer some explanations of the additional
which he proposed upon all parties who in tutor=
an) thing to do with the brewing of beer. At the risk of
speaking upon matters of Foremost interest he must ester
into • few details to enable the house thoroughly to us.
dentaod the proposition of the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer. He had received • statement from some friends
of his which showed that they had brewed since last Or
toiler 305,000 barrels of beer, and for brewing that quantity
they had incurred • responsibility to pay the right hoe.
gentleman no leas a sum than 155,00 W. One might have
euppossd that such a payment would justify their exemption
from any further impost, but the Chancellor of the Es-
chequer went on to charge them with a sum of 3,8771. Is
midair for their license—for the privilege of carryingee
their business He entreated boo. gentlemen who repro-
seated agricultural coutituencies to recollect that in former
years they bed act abatement of the duties upon malt, that
at the preesat time they paid higher duties than
is 1816, and that the eight hon. gentleman now
=nettto Menus them. They were told on Thursday
a certain rhos of mahatma were in favour of the
government propreition. Those parties, however, were
peat capitalista, who knew very well that the more restric-
tions the goverment put lie any business, a larger amount
of capital would be required to carry it en., sad therefore
the more difficult it would be to had orepeettare, sad it
was oil for that reason the lealtsten el Newark se-
er the right hoe. gentlemen. Per hie owe
_par be
those t • poll-tax • vary mar re, but that it sherd be
exceeded to oottorivoinnen and farmers, and sot Noised
to one class of persons. He would take the liberty of sug-
gesting to the Chancellor of the Exchequer a much more
simple process of obtaining revenue. Let the right hos.
patio:nu add to the malt tax Is. a quarter, sod he would
thee be enabled to remove that most obnoxious tax, the
hop duty—their, hearl—and would obtain the revenue he
required, sad satisfy the graven of hops, and probably the
barley growers also.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, referring
to the knee topic Int, raid that a modificatios of the pia
as to the limes would be necessary. The neriara We
magi by rivets brewers would be 55., and the
would rise to 40a. wordier to rentet hormaktlh a:
case of farms to fills. Turning to limbs Uwe issa-
reel history, delivered with the judbial el the
brachia by Mr. Dime% be said that Whey et hie
speech was that which rem through he policy and list of
has party, • west el dependence on the prism*e el her
re which bed gives reek elasticity to the rieueres ef
the country. With cousiderable minuteness the right bur
gentians& promeded to &meet and answer the use-
went, and criticisms of Mr. Diersell, &goyim( hie
PieWowa sod shawls' that his inferrer were in-
own* serishily r reprded the amebae that

the last two years were not exceptional Aare ; sad
there was not a topic oa welch his critic had dwelt, in
older to prove the datheied gravity of the situation, that
be himself hail not, to the beet of his ability, laid before
the house uu 'Thum day Hat. He had DCVO' changed his
language to the mow tax, or treated it as one which
as
to bee permanent tee. Towle* on Mr. Dienteli's
flaancial calealatioes, he showed that estimates of his
had failed largely in the malt—hi two sole at-
tempts at clever imposition of taxes, in the case of stamps
on cheques and a tax on Irish spirits, producing only a third
of the calculated yield in each ease. As to the repeal of
the paper duty, which caused a loss of 600,00. now
complainedof, the opponents of that measure proposed
to to part with 930,0001. of tea duty, which would have been
so much addition to the alleged deficiency. TM right
hon. gestleman continued—l must say that nothing can be
more fallacious than these distinctions between reduction at
duty and abolition of duty with respect to eelf-moovering
power. I have myself beard most improvident reductions
of duty proposed in this house—dutim which were levied
by a machinery so venetian that they could only
be justified by the neocesity of obtaining a very
large. recurs from the article. I have heard
a minister make a proposal to cut that revenue
doers to one-half : removiog one-hell the benefit, but re•
Paining all the vexatioo. That proposition I have heard
made b the right bon. gentlemen, in those golden days of
happy. finance when the revenues of the country were under
his wise direction. In one stetement of the right hon. gen-
tleman's speech I entirely comae. He said the opposition
to the repeal of the paper duty was band cm two main
grounds. One was, that there was no surplus at
all ; the other was, that there was a surplus
so large that it could bear a redaction 200,0001.
or 300,0001. larger than we then proposed to make.
Well, these two main grounds of opposition would
have been perfectly intelligible If it had so happened that
the patriotic gentlemen who urged them had each of them
given conscientious effect is his own opinions by his vote.
But when the motion came to be made spinet the govern-
ment on the subject, and when it was proposed to faros on
the government and the house the much larger seduction of
the revenue than weproposed,iteohappeoed that a vary for-
midable minority west into the lobby with the right hon.
gentleman, and that in that minority was contained very
nearly every man who waned Is that the sharps would be
increased, sad that in plat el thee lime was cal
to dispose of. (Hear, hew.) ailions% the rigid. ps.
demon fiods fault with the roma Of lin Inn
di! Dot give effect to it mem ars be • met el
amp he premised WINO t7hsasmns d thug—, n
the right hon. geetiesim eibeblurk el the Mint need 1
it to commit inif undmendy be • • reseinin dig-
'matising the paper duty ; and when the gestan-
men el my noble friend came into oda. el the
mannonseniont of the year 1800, the minim being
oilman we Ahead propene • minim of the oily en tea
or the abet ers et the dry en paper, use of the mein con-
mthenthir think senpoind as ninth in favour of the
leiter wee that Ohs MOS bliTsta. hid, "1 .46
men the hewn le ememit the subject,
bed is sr tesembienthe three eaareMhd the character of
the Meese of Common with gide ant to that vote.
(Hear.) So much for the men at the past take* by
the right hon. gentleman I wish 1 mkt give
to his speech a tendieney which he did not
give to it himself. lam well mutest to be celled by him
the most proton Chanconer of the Exchequer apes record.
I am satisfied to hear any epithets d viimmatisa width the
right hon. gentlemen has veered theims or may pro-
duce on • future r#l from hi modem mabekey. It
is not difficult to Mr ensere her the right boa. gentle-
beer Memo boner am Ma I ea lave had to
'it. (Cheers.) Lad sobi all moans let ate Uhlmann
it 1 am to blame. II there has beds ez-
width aught an be have tam those ;
ribrieMthisits gammen ham min hen the views
eni Isellopt dthe country, by oil mesas ise her thearey's
gemonomeat. Nonni brass minter boyar' moy otiose, re
seem* el hi spinet reeposibillty, bees the Mom. I
shed be anon sail Wined M ennead el thio dissuades
sad of the powerful spathes el the right boa. pelisses
Ma be this, that the Mown el Comm MI bums me-
eine OM the manes el the country with reran to its
throes NM its firm peespor requires its pave at
—(hser, hear)—thei wr tompseery memos ere exharted,
and ibM we lave arrived at sa nosh when it is important
for the hem to easseidat whet the Mows sede of taxation
▪ Mln (Meer, hear.) Sir, wit
Ones,! to the Mom tax,
me wed bin I sit down. thse MOGI I have the
trzto ogres to • greater olden Ma ea mg others
eislatAsa. genlimea, thee life ny, me with the
right Ma pothers as be was he Ha whoa he posed
tee el the mid seism wham bet was peemedud from
the meth el • Waits be di bee" but with the right
beesealie peames as he has bees are he had
Yens zoneressethee. (Isiebtar.) Sir, in my opines
the resew tax es a permenen wine of them is sot •
seem porno! demo pane morease—(hear, loter)—• high
Mime tea ereselleshe is a source of dupe. (Hear,
bier.) Nothing lel enneelinery expenditure and Mat-
esdkury asomily as, is my space, jobb the irate.
mean et that Wit betas Is& la as Mane lex which
at peeleat km the Mee et kw, et bade few wake op, was
ea
Mame tea taped la the yew Ilibaot tee the
et khaki slideemespehl nimehes, but rawly Lur Zse
et
thelawaredesi 7watea.d
salpautie et Ohs eessay. I have wawa balsa this taw
te pest eat a the basePagel the ase el the hems tee le I
meet IL I have mar mai a the prepare=
Yat the bases hut met be leaked ups es a peseesset
portion el ear ben" kaas I have sever Ma anvinsed
that we might a* seek to • antedeassierant in which
It wall be ale ash, el perlisossi Ibsen, to dispense
with tion tax or Mt It the weary ea be parsed for a
sum el sheet :Eel
.00,000 i. or 56,000,0004 • year, that may
be dm. se I Mien ea Mame tax ; at 70,000,0001_ .
de not MIL (Meer, heir.) Well.
the eight be.. pada= aye I em eedinvonring to cast
omen sad easpriesit expooffiture. Mr, maw
esateen. I Mew well that there is nommen who
is mere fay reopoodble esperhere then sissit.
Whoa people web is the asperse et the right Ma. gee-
Memo Mt the period skive* whisk we have bees
is sates exespiettle=sz:zerte it is
beesend the treat wen
end afithey aspeilllem, impaselakessiti eilmeithes
of • von aid esstly ebenairs tibia we best less an-
=te make bee Ywi emeasele lk, Ihe we
of Maeda%
_erl Is my day to pat est Nash
lopes es Imy Merida epee that sehiest. Oa the ether
bead I have sever prommel le nessesmail evreenag er
large seductions. I pentad out be the emnittos ea Thin-
day that then was a reduction eyes the eitimethe d the
;meat year for the army and navy, as seagral, nee with
the eirpeaditon bat with the estimates of het year. I
pointed cat n the some time thatit ma • mall selnetlea,
and I eadmotored to lay before the emmenthos a
statement with respect to our Inances, as fair, sat t aemale.
and as iteputiel as I could. Whether the right hoe.
man really did the same, whether he is not guilty., es re.eys
I am, el rhetorical amplithstien. add wimps, up kle
epees is ands of wards width an estosided be meal
the not pent at isese—then are quaker d eery lerll
imprimis. As I ban mid. I do net nompion of the
mai el thee& Irk swee—l IS see ens
el hie *eel opreati alp I algid abeam& lbstisittre
tharalleslbllswa mkt thee with wires beads Mae*
diperlioa tibia bee elkd, it fa the panatat,
seta* aloe eiserbsee)—towertis useeeeril
Imam end thereby give to us the mormas
if Ike asmi sated public credit whisk is me elat=
give if the data eed espesielly et oar Bathed edema
Itr.grearre Ilehralleaeltby, Mr. Arbon, Mr.
Vance, Mr. Lindsay, Lad Z. Cecil. and Mr. Ball con.
tinned the debate in • mei el minor criticism and general
observation
Sir S. NORTHOOTE protested ardor the system now
pursued by the govermeat, the executive demanding
large sums on the cm hand, and the Chancellor
of the Exchequer propeeng equally large reminces
of duly en the rho. It was not presenting the
question Yelp to the aosetry, as the latter was thus lad
into exporthare at which *might otherwise have hesitated
and imethel. It was not neeemery to allude to the right
he genthana's argmeete, as be had not attempted any
reply le then el tiki hes. member for Bucks, but there
wen em ears teenees to which be art allude
The eiglothea pelimma esid that the repeal ri the paper
duty
as no Ine ad quasi the soap day ; bet the quo-
tes was not Aram the might be made up 12 IWO,
but whether there me set an eotoal ten hi the present
nth As to the doctrine ol somationl years
)uales could be awn fallacious. which the lime would en
by bale bask ab what had tikes able in envious
suspard pore Ow a paled if times years the right
has. gmillenee mita a fillehael tf2,136,000/. In
1855 the right boa aseles ter IMP albieted his surplus
at 310,0001., and predated =Asa ba helm the lest
eight years there were only two wide greihred a surplus
eh at boring that paid the rem doinimise amounted
beff1.144,0001. ; from widdo,witen pa Masted the two
Zsgmdssp us, the nett &Mow emelesi 33,744,0001.
was owing, is • goat lathe Cement
seri eikeemstances woe as* around us which
able all for a rapidly tun, and there-
in, It nes no time is to throw awe our
ereann, Meath thersesed 316 •
end the awes!ell my serious mit=
le atealia Ihspeporadia wield be abase eeteyorr t
tat
sehehlesieples etellieeb_ *woe egg emeistaly that
sate. Mem were the fuelles thee is the ism year,
they wen elwaysteidisodlitelistomeldshilesent. Thet
was sot bib, ad the Hewes el Osmoses slight net to he
heated to that way. Nelda, eight some a peameat for
net made( noporpeoviolon Sc, tbe year wheatheyksm that
rids exposer sod difilculties were before then. The
Chemoller at the Exchequer calculated the excise mem for
the neat year at 18,300,00 W., the WWI meant me& so
mgt yam. He wanted to then ea whet the eight len
nealemee mode that &e inim. ohm ha his. MI he
meld it
paper duty, art YR Weed aiready lest
NUM ew Is* TM AO bessumabie pals.
Tam isimeet- spostilith (Mk molt
leo Asa Awl et
Ter Ile seduction at the Me diwbat 7,1;2-
ties did when they wen lilt themelka el the Fs-
=that the toss. !legit a moieties et
less toze a el the tes duty, as
in • el the opt
.41:r, bear.) He
ass4t Sio illlll4BlllO ;res.
Mod. boom hie Oohs
111.1•11, id UM only
19.474,0001. ; sad the el tatil Amooor.
Aist it , beteg ekes on ths two
yes cd =l.leirffin boa Mesa selealasi the

tom oe the paper duty at 300,0001., and estimated that be
would mass up that amount in the malt duty. He
thought his honourable friend was mistaken in
that. They derived half the excise duty from spirits,
In 1861 the consumption of spirits was 24,848,000 gallons
Winn 28,854,1.00 pillow in 1860, beim • km of 2,M,006
gallons, or 1,000,0001, in the year, the ditty on spirits bens
sow 10s. a gallon. His right hon. friend told them that
during the first three-quarters of the year just passed the
revenue from spirits was doing well, but that on the last
varier the loss was 100,0001., which he feared, with his
right Mu, friend, must be attributed to diminished power
of consumption on the part of the people. Was
that likely to come to an end! He feared not.
Formerly they were told that when the people
were suffering they began to consume spirits
in large quantities ; but now it appeared when they wan
suffers, they began to curtail in expenditure of that kind.
It appeared that they were now operating with a sung= of
100,0001., which was a stnager earplug than any Chancellor
of the Exchequer ever proposed to begin the year with.
(Hear, bear.) It was quite true that the military and
naval expenditure had increased. Since 18.5.3 it
bad isoreard 37 per cent., but the miecella-
aeon expenditure had focramosd between 1853 and
1882, from 4,800,0001. to 7,890,0001., or molar than 64 per
nat. (Hear, hear.) He thought the result of the
lest few yearn justified him in dietruling the calcu-
lations of his right lin. friend for the present year.
He would have approved of everything that had been done
if it had only been done at the right time and in the right
way. But serious inconvenience had resulted from the way
in which the revenue had been dealt with in the face of an
expenditure which ought to have been foreseen and provided
foe. He could not believe that the revenue bad not suf-
fered in the past yen, and would anteater in dream*/ year
by the repeal of the paper duties. He was afraid that ex-
optional years were at an end, *heron they were at the
end if exceptional resources. (Hear, hear.) The income,
malt, sprite, tea, and sew taxes were the resources they
had to fall tack on in ease of necessity. But they could not
expect to raise any further revenue from spirits by increasing
the present duty. The same might bemiring the malt duty.
The tea and sugar were now maintained at a war level, and
the Jerome tax was maintained very nearly at a war level.
air B. Peel put the income tax at 7d. in the pound when
be pink imposed it ; it was now 9€l. Then exceptional re-
sources were nearly at an end, and what were they to do in
ease of war' (Hear, hear.) He had no further obser-
vations to make, but he felt it neoaarry to make three re-
marks in ceder to justify Waled upon the objection al the
hoc. member for -.ldeaind, who mid that the opposition
did nothing but criticise wf oat proposing any substitute
for the (o•llllrnment plane. The government must now
accept all the reeponelldity of what they were doing,
and take ear, that dry dreberged that task for which they
eat on the ante oppetiet of prordng an equal
revenue to meet the -eillane of the- year. (Hear.)
The hone then went into committee.

of justice which hi the case of private bills they
endeavoured, not without surer, to obtain. He would
therefore move the following addition to the motion :—" To
be chosen by the ormamittee of selection, and the attendance
of which 'hall be subpar to the aime regulations as com-
mitter upon private bills.' Hie object was to obtain a
committee of lye impartially-ereeted usersben, who wield
hear the whole ere and endeavour to arrive at a proper

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decision. (Hear.) -
Mr. COWPER said that if the amendment were carried
it would maks a great change in the practice which had
hitherto prevailed. The bill was promoted with a view to
the public interest, but affected private property. The in-
variable course was to combine the gentlemen named by the
committee of selection, who would endeavour to find poisons
most impartial and least connected with the subject, with
potlemen who were supposed to have some public con-
IMAM with the project. That practice, he believed, had
hitherto worked well and he was sure the gentlemen form-
ing Ile committee would feel it to be their duty to attend,
even thew* named by the committee of selection.
Ookesel W. PATTEN was in favour of compulsory alitend-
awe. It was, be thought, desirable that the same
should peva with respect to private and public brim::
that no member of the committee should be allowed to vote
who had not heard the entire of the evidence.

Sir J. SHELLEY said that plastically the ratepayers
would be unrepresented before the committee. They could
only be heard by counsel, and the engem attendant on
having the services of mussel from day to day while the
inquiry lasted would be very heavy. He spoke in the
interest of the public, whose money should not be devoted
to the buying up the wharfingers,
Sir W. HEATHCOTE supported the select committee,
which was agreed to.
HULL SOUTH BRIDGE (ADVANCE).

On the ceder for eommittee,
Mr. A. SMITH objected tothe further program of the bill,
and moved that Mr. Massey's report theniou be referred to
• select committee.
Mr. F. PEEL opposed the amendment, which wen nep-
tired without • division.

Tieiouse west into committee.
Mr; TEEL moved the following resolution :—" That the
Commissioners of bee Majesty's Woods, Forests, and Land
Revenue* be authorised to advance, by way of loan, to the
tootrol to be inomporated under the movisions of the
Hull South Bridge Will, the sum of 10,00 W. out of the capi-
tal of the lend revenues of the crown, upon such terms and
conditions as ma be prescribed by enact to be Famed in
this sleeks of ps t."
The resolution was mil to, and the house resumed.
The College of Fhy (Ireland) Bill and the Netley
Hospital Estate Bill were read a third time and pared.
Leave was given to the Lard Advocate to bring in • bill
to regulate and mead the law respecting the Salmon
Manna of Scotland ; •sad oleo a bill to make further pro-
Asko topsides brow in Boatload.
The Mir adjoarnid at 90 =Mutes to 1 o'clock.