The Express.
London, England, 1847-03-23 00:00:00

-105316-11 THE NEW ROUSE OF LORDS.

Mr. HUME wished to ask a question of the noble lord the
Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests. That house was
required to attend her Majesty whenever they were summon.
ed, and it was most desirable that the Speaker should go up
to the House of Lords with that decorum which the
dignity of the house required. He might refer to a period
not very distant when the house proceeded to the House of
Lords in a manner consistent with its dignity ; but he
thought the approaches to the House of Lords were each Is
to hazard the personal safety of members. (" Hear," and
laughter.) Ile could not speak of any part of the Speaker's
habiliments, although he knew they had been in danger. It
was moat important that there should be proper accommoda-
tion. He had visited the space below the bar and found it
was not capable of containing a tithe of theme who ought to
go, and if they were to be placed in such straitened cir-
cumstances, they must come to one of two determinations,
either not to go at all, or to send a limited number of their
body, for not more than twenty-two persons could stand
than without pressure. Mr. Barry had admitted that there
was not much room, but he thought the galleries would
afford what was required. He did not speak of the
ordinary proceedings of the house, when it was expected
that the House of COMEOOII.I would be provided with
seats, but he thought when they were summoned to
attend her Majesty, after so much expense —( hear, hear)—
and having waited so long, accommodation should be found
fur more than a score of members of that house. He hoped
measures would be taken to remedy this iaconvenience.
There was serious ground of cmisplaint against somebody,
and whoever it was ought to be called to amount.
Major LAYARD wished to ask the noble lord a question
in connexion with this subject. Some inconvenience had
been felt by strangers being plated in the part of the House
of Lords, below the bar, set apart for the House of Com-
mons. He wished to ask if places would be provided for
strangers apart from those appropriated to the members of
that house ?
Viscount MORPETH said, that the accommodation for
the House of Commons would be on the same scale as in
the present house, though in proportion to the lamer size of
the chamber. It was impossible to find space below the
bar for all the members of the house consistently with the
fitting up of the house for bushing purposes. He agreed
with the hon. member for Carlow, that those strangers who
were snowed access below the bar should be separated from
members of the house. Besides the space below the bar,
there would be galleries with seats. He had every reason to
believe that the House of Lords would be anxious to consult
the convenience of the members of that house.
Mr. HUME said, what he wished was, that a committee
of that house should be appointed to inquire what apace was
to be &Horded to them.
RUM DUTIES.

viscouut skNno:sfr.iTheat;TtiOw if the rum duties,
which were fixed for Friday night, would be brought on
then ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
hoped on Friday to go on with the ram duties, as well as a
portion of the estimates.
EXPLANATION.

Sir H. W. BARRON said that what he stated on Friday
night had been misrepresented in the channels by which the
debates in that house were made public, and comments had
been made on it in one of them. He wished, therefore, to
state what ho did say. Ho stated that the property in Eng-
land assessed to the poor•law was 62,000,0001., and the rates
amounted to 5,000,0001. It was calculated that the poor in
Ireland. in ordinary years, amounted to 2,300,000 or
2,400,000. He took them at 2,200,000, at 21. 7s. 6d. each,
which was the rate per head paid for every pauper in Ire-
land, making a total of 5,000,0001. He then said that if the
assessment for the poor•law in England was made in the
same proportion as woe now about to be done in Ireland, the
assessment on 62,000,0001., instead of being 5,000,000/.
would be 23,000,0001. He said this was an injustice to Ire-
land, and taxing her four times the amount in proportion to
her property than was done in England.
ARMY SERVICE BILL. _

Mr. F. MAULS, in rising tom7r;or the second reading
of this bill, said he
I.l;fht it incumbent on him,
as inasmuch he had brat in and laid this bill on
the table of the house without previous notice, now
to make a statement of the motives of the govern.
ment in bringing forward a principle of this nature.
He might have taken the roget of the year 1806, and
have introduced the champs from unlimited te limited ser-
vice, by simply altering the misedales of the Mutiny Act
He had not done go, however, Wow it had of late years
been the prudes ea mum *ma the Mutiny Bill all pro-
visions that moat be eekodated M NON discussions year by
year, and to emits tie pwfsiws simply to the law as ap-
plicable to malateho the and character of the army.
He had theologise useissed the soars (Jailing the attention
of the hems spNNm7fy te the 'oddest, and to ask it to legis.
late upon it Ina &dont sad .spat. manner. He had alio
a further oldest is alkyds, that course, because he thought
if the alteration is the pried& of the establishment of the
army were to be at all, it should not, m was the
awe with Mr. Wtrates Bill, be repealed without due
notice, and without sufficient experience of its principles. It
would be in the recollection of the hones, many members of
which heard the discussion on that bill, that within two
years of its passing, it was repealed, when no experience
had been had as to whether the principle of limited enlist-
ment was or was net beneficial to the formation of the army.
He presumed in discussing this question, no one would now
start say objection as to the necessity of a standing army in
this country. He assumed that this was a matter which no
bon. member would dispute. The vast domestic interests,
the widely-extended colonies, and the 'sodden of this coun-
try among the nations of the world, all demand that there
should be kept up s permanent means of proteetion in the
army of this country. The question then arose, how can
that army be =cot easily supplied in a sufficiency of its
ranks, and how can it be made to bear with most ease
upon the community from which it must be raised? In
this country It was not permitted to have recourse to the
mode of ?awaiting which existed abroad. In France there was
the system of conscription. Russia bad ber military constitu-
tion and military laws—but in this °pantry the whore principle
upon which the ranks of the army were recruited were volun-
tary.; and, in order to make that voluntary principle of any
sem= at all, it must be acted upon in a manner applicable
to those dames from whom recruits were te be obtained. It
was prebend that our maim of :waiting was a voluntary