The Express.
London, England, 1847-05-08 00:00:00

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districts whin misfortune booked Mew into the town, whore
Mtn hod brooms eborgetele. ilds ease—sot a spoeulatin
soo--nowed Om groat le= to whisk inns firming Ms
mates. a name were • and how would that hod.
Pbe Monsen by Penn • int, ON iewlsonr7 rello4 ea
uy the lonised thei power to runes relisif oakum the
Mines of lead were earreadesed, thus beilitating the
removal from his inns of pampas, who maintaind pow
baps, he bra private charity, fee twelve moths in the
beesine.afterwards a pormanot bares to it. (Hear, hate:r)
This was sometimes a sawn of Minnie in Rogisad ; aai
In Ireland, with the eines for removing beldam be.. dole
hued, the Westin would he not grievous. It was mid by
the now lord opposite (lord Stenley), that fa 11. lathe
gmeed was much too low • rote Ile sell tor a rate in mg, and
let by lower rates would be LAW ender this hit. If mesh
was his (Lord Our'.) aodnignliens, hi view ef the Miff
gmagesb of Indeed wield be me i were gimes, am it
wee. Op to the thee of the }Off Mien (a moms, of
whiff be loped was net to be band), the avenge meant
of Eggs( is Ireland was about sevengente is the psond,wr a
bilks lower ; and now of 'herb* workheeme wage bet.
elar, beer.) But, until the mmeldweem wore 11111, thew
been the Mine power of east's than woad be ember
the new law. (Hear. hear.) lily, thew, dwelt the ad-
ministration of relief be so magi pater) A lamdememeal
Miff les through the whole weeniest as the ether ebb.
It was assumed that Ireland was a eowatei when the
biomes/ was to be maintained by charity,—to be employed,
wet be the mks of the value of lis labour, bet to an set of
imakeisese es the Cf. talliemgle ueac, mid
au • dimity to
note
be • staff maws arid time maiatenesee of the
he eneeloi ea in thie way. (Hear, hear.)
mellweell eireniffien closer
wee net interfered with,
emleffiledly, in a imeaft OD Imbed, which pommesd
wash gent natural YHee Ise the profitablez
= of sephol awl imbestry, there world
be wigwags& the MOM of employing to
wilerodqp the Mew of the sematry. (Hear, hear-.) lily
seamen weld beilitute that boggy change, by incasing
emerlegomaphoian both the laboaree and the employer la
a better pie. Bet, neither by this bill ear any semi
could the Immanent eeffiegneet ad the Mow of the
eouatry be directly previded AO. The nellb bed mnebe
Yd Wei a tees whims ewoholf of • &Met offemiff4 may
mene-basenet tithe pm_ paha letwould the breeldp la
sod cams wetm by &he the rate on the Wombed, or on
the individual proprietor eve* ? Tot, ewe was the legiti-
mate onehuion ken the wind* maintained co the
Whet able. By can*, the pig* to the et-
olleff end requiring ea* bdfeldwel palmlike,. to
=sr Am labour on hi one seem., each a ass-
at Wags would be penbesed as existed la the
swat el Inglend in IMO, and whiff it wee the oheet of the
use of lilt to amend. At Mat time rah mi dank*
held ins. PillaWaikilff fm own imilvideal !showoffs, end
those alone! the eimfees if Meer was esempleesig peg.
end to ; stoma labour enke wet infieo le 11. .MI,
while far batter labourers perhaps who me enlinesst,
were refused work. Fran the elegies of tabard*
Me sum owns would agelambe. Oa the offer was a
danger not brood ; the peirdpie of ses needed Ws for
the rate eight be serried off te ON olablkil•M4 Of • na-
tional. new Tame were effresess es both dam, against
which the Uwe was oiled en to (nerd. The bill
es it Mud wee • Ye owegmeabe Waren eatilieting
beiee owl orstidas amash.. Up to a certain petal,
fib, bill gaff a wisely* te idffideele to tows., their own
gmfflonlaoliffiste; whew, em the 'Sher hand, by preventing
the whiff* being @miff Me br, weffical injustice would
• be Wevirlid. Neither pekeigle weeff be exchuively adopted.
. A mem rat be takes astuswhewe spinet the difficulties
as both able• (Hear, ker.) Offeidoring what was due to
the lowa am owe side, owl effeelelly the seal constry
towns, and to the rural distriele eit the ether, they could not
hold out a firer or more jwil than was sag-
- Rested by the bill as it steed: (Hew. He trusted the boom
wonlkomasst to theffewOffe 5f the dame.

LordßEGCCdillit slid he gad never biked a en where
the ispostem wee mot sompthely on on. side. The sells I
- Mot who hadjoetayekth bad othilt was a delusion to regard I
elite labowstmera thirst eliwito most be employed.
But by wheat kg this been made' 'By the
authors of the pemat bill. ( .) Thia, and all such
measures the the relief et the pew, roamed that charity
vas to be the tile~ essipakety mil appeethe thorny.
essirea Put he was told is the Musa el this aisle tire a t 1
pleerance would by this bill be bathed open the re-
Went is the towns for the benefit of them else the
tesntrydietriets. This sr -tunenteemindeibins that rights
of the_ pespisof the thereitey disbisb sesta to be eseaidereiL
/alai Itemight his ail hook to • pit which was always
• thepellen in lesidstlem en this egoteit—esemety, what was
-the seisleg piesieie ef Ike eta pres- kw 41116 Elisabeth.
The{ law mesa Int a ibied lOW, mimeo ea maser enacted
than it sea Me eitlaioe. when beet into operation it
. lied beetoemyael to a still doper ebileles, and arm seat
to any Meth Misdoing!' had it to isepport of the empire boas
attempted's. be atoned. The prised* ef that bill wet that
the land silmill maintain the peer, eel that all ever pro-
perty shoal he asap{—le drat, that the liailignlSlS
and thek tonal *mid sestmils the peuemee, whether
those papaw ware et disk m miewlii. er witathet the
stanaketisths Ablaida hadi swam than; la ahert, the law&
owners were aaid uponto limpet the pompom width the
wealthy membetorees erested end mot Ilimbi as heath apes
the toil. That was not the intent and et the sta-
tute of Elisabeth ; and, with all it, lobe mil ens,
the poor-law of 1834 was at hag tamp Ikea the sharp of
so greet an injustice as ooehl he wild arid the dew
of the bill now under ceasitheatles. nit elms mold only
aggravate the evil' which misted, and it would roping tem
fold the ingenuity of the oak earl cemodes to palliate, end
less to defend it. It should nit be fotgotten, that it wee to
Irish landlords they were about to preach the docents, that
one district which was isinskious, and without paupers,
should he required by law to maintain the paupers cd die-
leen which were neglected ; for they were told that from the
very instant that their rates rose to two and deposes
.in the pound, they might fin on the itephthil.ng pram of
the electoral division to support their paupen 61111 S 1611
mime raised by their good management and thritcytesdnet.
This was the whole argument in ref. rents to the those in
one *entente—it required no reasoning—it called for no fur-
ther illustration ; and, with that statement, he should leave
- the awe with their lordships, and confidently lock for their
decision against its adoption.
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE differed wholly from
the general principles which had been laid down by the
noble and learned lord I Brougham), in his reading of the
statute of Elisabeth. The noble and learned UM had
omitted to draw the distinction between labour and destitu-
tion, sad he had ketsight of the point that this these did
sot thee labour upon property, hot by ion ennelethets was
designed to mks propity provide kr the thmitollso at the
country. He knew it was mykseent te vesammend any
wenn on the penal el Feeder Whip bet he eauld state
that the piste invoked I. this is.. bad mita the
pessible anxiety in Ireland, end that a seam feel-
4. Ins faveseprevoiled, not in the large towns, bet In the
Ia mall weft where the utmost readiness bad been
ewers& est to amp the bill in its present shape,
kat to led the wassary to work it.
Earl ot11111•11T sailn weld est be limited tbatthere was
as moth peopetkra la babel as Wiwi bi Es/lead and
Wales, aad, if le, the noble earl the flemetary for the Colo-
nies (Earl Grey) mostadreit that at the eekulation of 17 per
cent., the rate would be 3.. 4d., instead of 2s. fld. in the
pound. With referees. to the alleged inn= of the popula-
tion into the large cities, he would call attention to the fact,
that comparing the population, as shown by a comparison
between the census 0(1831 and that of 1841, the population
of Kilkenny bad decreased 116, Bantry had decreased 192,
Cork had decreased 901, and Galway hod decreasel 609, so
that these towns could not complain of the influx of popula-
tion of late pm.
Earl PITZ WILLIAM thought the clause now under con-
sideration was one which ought to be made of temporary
operation. It appeared to bun that the question was sot
merely one between large towns and small towns, but be-
tween high-ested districts which had no paupers, and those
low-rated distriete which had paupers. Both town sad
country districts were undoubtedly intimately connected in
interest, and that commies he did not think had been aufil-
Mindy cooddered in the propel/the of this bill.
The Marquis of WESTMEATH asked whether there was
any intention...en the part of her Mitkety's government to
disturb the vote whisk had been come to on a former even-
ing ? If no seek intention pined, and that it was math
Mood the present measure wee only to be temporary, he fler
one would not offer say further opposition to Its propos.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE would make no pretties
on the subject, but should reserve for himself and the govern-
ment to take any canna then might think fit.
Their lordship then divided—
For the dense—Contents
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119am•mmlasts
The clause yea thavollate
Chum 12, which preara ealistanee for emigrants, mat
then agreed to.
On clean 13, which extends the provisions relating to
emigrants in rreelthearim to gooteste poems eat et them,
Eml FITZWILIAAII woe memolomil le eomplaia of the
treatment to which kmdemlo IMO poldeslel by these pro-
visions.

75;Narquis of LANSDOWNE said these clauses were
founded on the regulations which existed under the former
Irish poor law, and did het apply to any great system of
emigration.
Lord MONTIAOLE Widths me snips*. could
not by any memo be dimmed of thus derma
Alter a Mt words dam the etrafbrehro, the
arum w weed to, es was she dams 14.
Oa dames 1i sod 16, whisk seveally rh;i4ide for the
eating
of tithe eat the recovery of milse
The Bad of WICKLOW moved dor 'minim
The A of DUBLIN withal to etas the reasons
which him to wppeat the ropteltisa of the
•obie eel, Theme elegem WOO blosimee he the beads of
the clergy, who aelheel mho a peon ; brat In
order to effect Ile ,sweet,
dry von to emothee.
The evil they ware sew hibearlarg was, tint they
were rated at the per wake of *de friesama, oei set the
set. The brim" bamid we to the &mem the mat-
charge, mime 611 11116161111 S he the poovvate, awl tist
that they had to peg • bony tax to the relesiatioal
commission. (Bear, 11th mee an unequal tax,
because it was higher sr lower, useardiag to the ease
of the befog. In fair to relieve them, these
by which the immmisent INN Wag his aeTh
mot hieing@ Ireame, heel bmgeopeesi. Upset the whim".
dew I
i;Selemit • dohs if only use th
tows tell* illee oeljest to et pooseat. iltirdlitheystit
theeehme oserieettl.
The ofirDOWNII amited to the adrift
of the dem% Ilia Van samegpsatly withdrawn-
Ohms 17 wee to.
Oa douse 18,
The Lel of CLANCARTY oomplaied of the diflealty of
eollonkg the say,
TaeNorploef 11111111DOWNE Married an answer which
was not Weal is the vim.

Led STANLIII nil that ugh the south ehl west of
Indeed them wee ma Ibe Mdse, real
whom delhalt was eves meet it rate was levied. and Um few
who paid were tatted fear or five them ever, while
the awes esemped with imperil'. If this wastes and suck
isayanfty was permitted, it would eseder it lamest eseemarr
he saved in self juidlieritioo, to take dee same
Mammoew ; Weal some pment frees theower we given to
damethe oiliseems
Ito
ew the * wo
imeemeseijsoill sash a deemerell deimehmee,metleo wadi erne raj ethent
poem ameba be sod the oledahtirettom M the
reeiheed Lou Be thought the subject
deserved the lesimie seleatime of the government
After a few words sent the Dike of RICH MOND and Lord
Moirmout,
Earl GREY said that the ipmestims of making the oollco-
te•
at Met was a very &Medi one, and in the other it was
euendmed that it rhombi be the subject of a separate
After a conversation between the Earl of Cr. &ECARTT and
Earl GREY, with regard to the ;lamella of the instalments
of money advanced fur public tier* the exact purport of
which we were unable to catch,
The claims was agreed to.
Clause 19 was agreed to ; sad ea the motion of the
Marquis of I.ANSDOWNE the emiderstion of the remain-
* nausea was postponed till Monday next.
The house then adjourned at twelve o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Fsrosy, MAT 7.
Tbo tiraokos took do 'hair Mbar o'clock.

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uEpo,n ItEADDASComiisnt and Market mal.
WOSTB-1341ienkind (Ormlwinnes) Doak Aeto Amirodmeat
(0 L.. INw Dods rd Airman of Wiwi) ; Birtenbood
Calidenlim°ll42o(lnnisli Didlll2=y!=a2lt
girl=ra/1111111Mik. cio,,hlg,..bip.Trißtv
Mode hilsfarm. ima SirmiDad 1M
egurfaL"9"7; Ter-
llMADOloll.—Odidndim *Orme. d arm-
well 10111•11=ralurialls: Wpaldralli Mimosa
andThladdis)llll Cianimain lielfwog (Nermisilitiyannirm, to
Pealatimituaart Pair
Jlsi ad= I.lllrdadtg:3
=ow larieralsblnale met to Illenisrm); CioldermiVmor
Vlary7lll.6== Obegow.wtaa
(116menatdrdeglIteik41
Fskilf. AP Pis ;
owl Age Sawa mid
Voles —WO); Idsmairmr
Asmatia ; Wohorhearmsurgir
PII
P 11!! azaDtrire.—vr !Nana Lend Ormose
1110001 ID (Surma ma Mooted) ;
IlmahAsess,44.l Ma
o.armelMis
of Yegrants tot ;
pe=tot Armament
Komi armee of Woes IV; Dorm. of Irmo BM
110T=07 MOTlON.—ltaftwAr Arm, an sentare
Worm Not se siltrm bin Moeda norm Ow ormiss of Ns
ormaisrm imlim the entire orml woe inhimand mid
loaf Me inme poll
Omous Mownt an Us lON of Oho poem arm, to
mew lit Norma worm Itself Sao • ermillem is the alarm at
Immelnilis armor cos
Lwow
.Lay—Mr. J. Visitor. cs Sion dew, tO
Mir km
d serried= be berm Mlellermerotion el
km ormolus a.marea ifisplom I ma dim wile mopes
ermedmirmrmibilm kWh Warm tear sod In Ms wool..

Mr. GHBENI rniernd, "That the artier made en the 3rd
day of this instant May, referring the petition of the Lan-
cotter and Quite Railway Company, against the North
Wens= Railway (Deviations at Skipton. Casterton, and
Sedbergh) Bill, to the committee on the bill, be read ; that
the said order be discharged ; that the petition be with-
drawn."—Arami le.
Mr. GIBIORIR moved, " That it be an instruction to
the *mobiles ea the Greet Northern Railway (Deviations
between Looks and Grarrham) Bill, to entertain the peti-
tion demi by William Fletcher Norton Norton, the chair-
man of the Ambergam, Nottingham, Boston, and Eastern
Jenstion Railway Company (presented 3rd May), as the
palm si that company, although it does not bear the cor-
pses= esal el the compan_y.'
112. Guinan and Mr. NOTCOI7IT opposed the motion.
After a brief conversation the horns divided.
For the motion
Against it
Mr. 0. GORE moved, "That the evidence given before
the committees on the Shropshire Union Railways and
Canal Bills (Chester and Wolverhampton Line, Shrewsbury
and Stafford Line, and Newtown and Crewe Line), in the
last session of parliament, be referred to the committee on
Group No. 21 or Railway Bills.
Lord CLI VE osed the motion.
After a few wee from Sir J. GRAHAM and Mr. M. J.
O'CownaLL, the nation was withdrawn.
CHESTER AND HOLYHEAD RAILWAY BILL.

irratOaWilArdib/Fieeie7l, that is the era of the
Mar and MAIM Railway Bill, ia N. 24, a
cessitelaa haring bee appointed to the Seib of
the prepaid hotm, at Holyhead, is Teartase to which
the phew *ION above railway have bees wpm& ft be an
iesteedies to the emealetes ea the said bilk that the seed-
thealleat ef the sizetriplasi mill teawow. et the
assabits
W. 0. STARLIT mil that well Rot some the
bat Imo amen die semi main dap FM imot
me le be peolposta—Mithe WWI ft.
IRISH RAILWAYS AND POOR wrs.

Mr. SDYE e;ittTikathia-ligressgt;et; nllllsif lie Inten-
tion to apples the itemiser_ pee of the of 010,0001.
tall the fte after Ishis Poiafter Bill was great
1110•11, he wished
to ask Ile nab bid at the head of the government whether
it wee their beedisa M losaesd with the railway bill to-
night Air the eltandea wiish had been made last night in
Use peer law bin easdar dose ?
Lard J. 111111111111. eft, that without referring to what
tea dose k *either hones of parliament, he would pan-
pipes the mese& readier of **bill till Friday next. (Chem)
HAYDOCK LODGE.
Yr. W. 0. STANLEY wished to oak the Secretary of
Ipets fer the Homo Deportment if, ia mellirmity with the
ensaltmentietles of des Oemeimisemoe of Imam in their
hot report apes Raphyskftlge, the moghiratee of the
and, of Leassaft, ea tile rifting of the Nam this year,
ham !squired the prepristor, Mr. Coed., to red& ea the
plenums ; and also to provide a competent modkiel amisMat,
also to reside in the asylum ?
Sir G. GREY said, that a license had boon granted to Mr.
Jenkias, who resided on the establishment With regard to
the second question, • permanent medical officer was ap-
pointed, that person being Mr. Green.
IMPORTATION OF IRISH PAUPERS INTO
LIVERPOOL.

Sir B HALL wished to innirwier7ther it wee the inten-
tion of the t to come inward and min the vari-
ous mst of sad Wales when On rata bed hero
amminted la eameneame et girls, sid to Irish moms immi-
grants, and also whether it was thin Woad= to hhg for-
ward a bill to resniono iltennaMeast eattlenont In Inland ?
Sir 0. ORBY sold imbed neolved nalemanes j li-
odium then contansellatimposition to whisisldeMitend
referred. They had been midensed to him tem time to
tints by the small* and peembial authorities et Liverpool.
Dapnolleen lad ens nem is him kom the ems place, re-
prassettim the net somber of bib Immignan who came
to that town, and the pass= of diens. in ocessequenoe of
the Lap index of Irish Maple infected with fever. By
the Mt deputatkm, whom he saw a few days ago, it wee
seated that, since the 16th of Jan., the number of Irish
=l who arrived in Liverpool emented to 180,000, and
umber between. 40,000 wed 10,000 migrated. They
Mated that a large number mewed ea to valion. parte of the
eanney, end that between 60,000 mad 80,003 remained in
Livesposi, in oddities to the ( Hear.)
la amorm• it rettetat= neared on good
wettarkg that sued mos mune& in vine steamhents
L
been& Mit paupers in a state of Mu, and landed
than it Limped, he communicated with the authorities of
the Onlemininee ; and imtnistions had bees addreseed, in
to the CustonaMme antherities a Liverpool,
limilethat two of her Malestra nip in the Money
should Omni at the Mora otihe messieipal authorities
than, to be weed by them mkespini ship, inemilertoprovent
Me inballais isetoreading. TM Cenewhenoo Misankad
seam Wham& every ship with dock pomangers males be.
Wand, red it than were any fever ems on board, tie nip
was to be mined to p ekaplis an of the bin
=gin. Ma eris arm arida be pet hie it,
etiorq than 1 a Uwaysal. Isitimmils• was
dee* be to die ovum et Oen rode. that if
biteltdreet lam irri. So teem& ia
otralimulteass rem der la wet* be_pierl la yr rutin*
iill
.lar
inin numeg tll=The myertail people
et at tbraarrane of
, Ilsgal red& be atteedid wilt hew
Maleithar Wldt te say dime set
mkt.
etre mi saerow to Ms Mr, be yr set alio telrlo
an ein hep that wall deal ark praaltry
aid. An of Inal==eit ems tatty kr the wpm
Orel:rah, beer pada& der tad lawn and the Orioles
bed made to albs of a bailie at Cardiff be the TO-
septios albinism& palm With roped to Wastbad, ft wee
tree that Ass& three with er be Nerved a repsarataties
Ina Limped to the reset that a 11411111Mil* with be.
250 to 010 lorseasers, inked there ; Nos preens 141sa
arlimals, vibe were mibilOy inlaid . a the Not of
Wendell. Oa bolos tars- into Visalteo Ns wear and
inhabliante there sestawil into sunelptiens. asr the pu-
ma of elmetering a mewl to take them to Liverpool ; and,
es be milmotood, a latter had been wAlla by the mayor of
Wesdoed to the mayor of Liverpool, rosommanding them I.
Ids Justin midi mom. (Lestaltar.) Re Ed net bine
that I. today ...„,..ik. Li,w brl bra delete& The tads
remedy la meth it Ira Ida bill whisk vas la was '
as hod.% by tha and of lbws at be.
lend meld be diellnin4 (Haw, bor.) He wet set able
to say that it was the innilisa of t to propose
an law of settionent fir Woad. ear, hear.)
Sir H. W. sawn wriat to ask whether it was the
intention of gemmiest to wpm any measures for send-
ing her-8 to Wool tbe II,KO;0 Oa which wen Twit in this
country by Irish sabiemen and other Irish landed proprie-
tors who resided ben ? -

Laughter.)
RAILWAY CO(hIMINION11118 BILL.

la aannttriieinisti;si
The CHANCELLOR oft= EICHEQUER rid that the
railway essulteleases hod hog erwellim eat interview with
=mewemeilwhis sad row insprovoreents
tasselled = egmMs tRe Ashes of the But
tbs gerament were eel et bast it =king
the 'skies etas Neale le eseeent to any alte-
rnate slat sdetW ea wit= Ste was *waded. If the
leen anew= to he reed • sewed tuns sub tikes**
and to pen_lhowask etwetaloo yore Jim& the alto:aim
whisk tiny =ens= It ebbed. to webs =wild be tasseled,
as= If the Ell we 1111•11104
weal sompotont to Ile IN -tiers. the Mese
to diem tbsiOgif the
ATM. OF GRAIN.
hi same leAAliks Nada Humans,
Leal I. Itti Mit It wte est tho intention of so-
vereessul M paw way wietsswe to Torrent the exportation of
wheat er ether grate der the cenetry. (Hear, hear.)