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affairs, or would in any way permit them to interpose be- honourable members Isoundisse on the government tee
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twcen them and the ally glance they owed to their sovereign. sets of force, and to the putting down this manifesta-
(Hear, hear.) No one could more strongly condemn the tion by the strong hand of the penal law. Renumber-
interference which had been aUudesd to in the wee of the . ins former days, when the government of the country
Minister of Sardinia than he did; but etch a thing could j suffered so much from -the no popery .cry, and obliged to
not occur here, and, if it did, it would be indignantly teen-' leave office by that cry, he was truly sorry to lee the noble
dieted by the whole esthetes eseamainity. (Hear, hear.) I lord now the leader of the party which was urging forward
If he believed there was any intention to disturb the loyalty I the et, of no popery. The noble lord might not hare
of the people, or to inside the sovereign of the country by i meant it, and he might have been driven on by the state and
the recent act of the Pope appointing catholic bishops, he . circumstances of the country, and might have mistaken the
would support the noble lord's bill ;hut he was convinced ! earnestness for bigotry. The noble lord had gone further
such was not the rase. How could the Court of ; than complain of the aggression, for he had said that he
'tome concise that the recent art would bz so regarded ; deplored the influence that had been exercised by those
lin this country after the course the government and the I clergymen of our own church who had encouraged this
legislature had teak' n ? The noble lord, he recolletted, j aggression. The first measure brought iu by the noble lord
in former times declined to nee eve an address signed byJohn, I should have been one to set his own church in order. I
ArebbiehopotTuam.becauseitwascontraryto a clause inthe I (Hear, hear.) Ile ought to have brought in a measure to
Emancipation Act--but the right hen. baronet it appeared : ascertain who were the men who had brought their flocks
had not heeritated to receive en address signed by the :to the very verge of Iteman catholicism and there left them.
Bishop of Aberdeen, the iiishopof Glasgow, and the Bishop I (Hear, hear.) An hon. friend near him pertinently metal
of Argyle in the Highlands, though it watcontraey to the why the noble lord had not unmasked. lle believed I,
constitution of Scotland and the oath her Majesty had ;that the temporalities of the church had a great
taken to uphold the presbyterian religion in that country. I deal to do with the present movement. (Hear, hear.) if':
(Hear, hear.) It would seem that, haring conceded eman- lin 1837, our church had been set in order, so that every man
eipation, they were now about to enact penalties against receiving public pay for the discharge of a public duty in
the eatholies for acting upon it. (Cheers.) He would not j that church should faithfully perform that duty, this ag-
*Teak of the letter of Lord Clarendon to Bishop Nicholson, ; gnomon would moat probably have never been heard of.
for, that being a private communication, ought never to ! It would almost NAM WI if tlie noble lord was afraid to
hare been brought publicly forward—(hear, hear)—but j trust protestant principles in opposition to the catholic faith.
the noble lord, on the queetion bring asked, said he had I He proteded against ameasureof aggression against the civil
not been asked for his consent to the establishment of liberties of his countrymen. (Hear.) Speaking for him-
this hierarchy, nor should he have given it bad he been self, be wanted free trade in religion. (Cheers.) If they
asked. (Hear.) Ile (Mr. Keogh) could very weU under- were fearful of these unpaid men, the only way was to keep
stand that answer from a minister of the crown ; but how the church of England in proper order—(hear, hear)—und
different was it from theopinionsexpreseed by the noblelorel let them at once pees an enactment that all sinecures
over and over strain when he was in opposition in 1`44,'4.5, ' and pluralities ill the church should be abolished, I
and 'NI? If the noble lore succeeded an earrying this hill, that every man in it who received the public
which he believed lout been prepared without consultation money should do the public duty—(hear, hear).—and that
with any one acquainted with the working of the Roman none should receive pay for acting as shepherds and
cathodic religiou in Inland, he believed its ettect would he let the wolves into the told. Was the noble lord determined
to put • stop to ecclesiastical functions in that reentry alto- to carry this. measure, whether right or wrong, in violation
gether. lie was infonnee that a catholic prelate who had of the liberties of the catholics : Ihe noble lord said that
been present in the house during the debate on this eues- Ise would not proceed with any other public lisinsl, until
tion—a man who had never taken part in political agitation— this was ilispowsd of. As to the intneluction, lie (Mr.
a prelate who had never assumed the title against which Hume) would not oppose that, for he wished to fn, the
the bill was directed—that this right reverend gentleman, measure of the government. lle would conclude by',
after listening easefully tothe details of the proposition, said counselling the noble lord to go hack ; for if he went ou
that, without violating the law (which he was determined in the course he.had elected he would find himself involved
not to de), it would be impossible fur him to execute his in still greater difficulties. (Ilear, heare
epixopul functions. Was the noble lord, then, prepared Mr. OSWALD adverted to the fact, that in the country
for the consequences of the measure ? The noble of the Covenanters there was no agitation upon this matter ;1
lore might have conciliated the preebyteriane and dealt a and in Ayrshire, the county he represented, there bad been
blow to the Pestle..., but had he considered the rinse- no public meetings whatsoever. In Scotland no came-
itemises of his measure on catholic Ireland ? (Hear, hear.) regiment had teen held out to the noble lonl to pursue a
Was he prepared to rouse the fell spirit el religious hate course of persecution, and he trusted he would re-1
which heel happily all but subsided in that country ? (Hear, wise no support at all in Om doctrines of the church
hear.) Had be taken counsel of the Attorney-General, and of Scotland, fur it appeared to him that the
inquired whether he was prepared—he hoped, however, noble lord had—of course from the purest motives,
that not one of the Irish prelates would disehey the law— —renounced every principle of his life. (Hear, hear.)
(hear, hear)—vrhethe r he was prepared to frame a bill of Suppose that the bill did nothing but take away titles,
indictment against the ecclesiastics of 6,000,000 of her Ma- was it ffir this that the whole nation had been trouled from
jetty's subjects—(hear, hear)—whether he was prepared to one end to another? (Hear, hear.) The right hon. baronet
conduct • poweention against the Archbishop of Team be.- the Secretary for the Home Department (Sir G. Grey) had
fore a jury of Mayo—(hear, hear)--or wan this • statute stated that all England had been reefed to prevent Cardinal
passed not to be enforced and not intended to be enforced ? Wiseman from assuming the title of Archbishop of West-
(Hear.) In conclusion he would quote, not by way of inti- minter. If that were to be the sole effect of the bill, the
milletion but of advice, the counsel which the noble lord sooner the noble lord the member for London, having re-
himself had given to one of his linden.. ors, that just retri- ceived the compliments of the hon. member ter Ware ick-
bution would overtake that steteeman who not appealing shire (Mr. Spooner) for his complete abandonment of his
to sound and enlightened public opinion laid hold of SUMO early principles—the sooner he (the noble bird) did what
popular prejudice or mistaken notion to secure his own he had advised the cardinal to do, the better. @Alight...re
power by deluding or misleading the people. (Sleeve Ile (the noble lord) had advised the cardinal to walk away
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to Rome, and he (Mr. Oswald) thought the sooner the noble
Mr. ANSTEY begged to inform the house that the lord walked away himself, the better. (laughter.) There
Roman catholic church of Ireland hail the power, and that had been a good deal said about the spiritual suprenewy of
the Rotnan catholic people of Inland had the will, to resist the te eeu ; but the supremacy of the Queen ii,
aggression, come from what quarter it might, when it was Scotland, exercised in the spirit of the noble
levelled against their civil liberties or the liberties of their lord, which was tyranny to the church of which
chureli. lie found that they had exercised this power and the tauten was the head and perwcution towards those of
will early in the present einturs. When a reeentit of the whom her Majesty was not the spiritual head, but who
President of l'repagenda reached Ireland, in the year 11413, were only temporal subjects—that supremacy was soo-
the laity, and afterwards the clergy of the Roman catholic nected in the minds of the people of Scotland with two
cheirth met, and unanimously pussevl resolutions, in which hundred years of civil war. (Hear, hear.) The ministers
rho y declared that the document in question was nonrnan- of the Free Church of Scotland had resigued all their tem-
eletory, and not entitled to their obedience or respect. pyridines because they did not choose to submit to what
Since that period no new attempt on the part of the Court they considered au arbitrary exercise of this smite-
of Rome had culled for the interference of either the Irish macy. ((Loud cries of " Hear, hear.")
clergy or people. (Ifeur, hear.) Ile was of opinion that Lord JOHN RI:SSELL said,—Sir, As there seems a
present the clauses in the bill, however applicable disposition now to chase this debate, i will address u few
they might he to England, would, if extended to observations to the house with respect to what has fallen
Inleneebe an unjustifiable and intolenible oppression. The from °neer two honourable gentlemen. In reply to the
house, perhaps, were not assure that the Irish Roman ea- accusations of the hon. member for Montrose (er. Hume),
Mille clew were long since empowered to do everything I can only repeat what must lie well known to many ho-
they required at home. They had no occasion to go to nourable members of this house, that acconliure
Rome at all, eerie in the last resort. Moreover, the Utica to the public low of Europe it is not lawful to
given to them had not been given by the Pope, or by any erect ecclesiastical aces in any. territory without the
forenen prince—they were the titles which bad come down consent of the reigning sovereign of that territory.
to them in unbroken succession from St. Patrick. Thu was (Hear, hear.) I have not heard that contradicted by
not the case in England. Nut only had erns been created any permit who has opposed this measure. But, secondly,
in this country, but titles had teen imposed by the it so quite clear from all the inquiries we have made, that
lope. He believed that as the bill stood, it there is no sovereign in Burney who would submit to the
would be found as useless as it would be mischievous. creation of bishoprics within hes territory, unless lies upper
With reference to England, it would do no good at all; bation heed been previously asked and given. (!Lear, hear.)
with reference to Ireland, it would do unmixed evil. What has been one by the Pope, in this respect, is cue-
(Hear.) The house ought to know that, with the excep- teary to the well-known public law of Europe, and would
tion of the "Archbishop of Team," all the Irish Rumen not be tamely submitted to by any nation. (Hear, hear.)
catholic bishops styled themselves.. not by their titles, but After the bill has been introduced to the house, I shall,
by their proper names. For instance, the Roman catholic perhaps, address myself to some of the points raised in the
Bishop of Itaphoe, Dr. M'Gettigan, who hail hove course of the present debate; but after the abbe arguments
in the gallery of the house on Friday and Mon- to which the house has listened, from a number of my hon.
day nights, hail always called himself by his own name. friends, I shall not enter further into the question at preecut
In the name of the Roman euthelies of England he (Mr. An- than to notice an °beery:item made by the hon. mender for
stet') declared that it would be only just end merciful to Buckinehemshire (Mr. Disraeli), charging meinlees ..f
mimes: tentacle., by means of municipal legislation, to the her Majesty's government with inconsistency iu this
meet autocracy. 'the bill which he had leen prepared to mutter, and a remark mime by the hon. mem- I
bring in would have prevented the See of ROMP, or any her fur Athlone (Mr. Keogh), to the effect, that I
peren acting in obedience to that see, attempting Or making the government had been a consenting party. I
env Mime:dein in any emitters of a tenipural character, n the am surprised that, atter all 1 said in 1841 and in 1815,
:deers of any class cifher Majesty's subjects. And as the that it could for one mom, at be suppeeed that the esonsentl
denser now appnliended was entirely an Englishelaisteer,the of goceniment would be given to such a step utile Pope has'
bill which he had contemplated would have restricted the lately taken. This measure, it has been clearly made
prohibition to England ; trusting to the good sense and to out, was done in opposition to the government of this
the courage of Pediment to extend the measure to Ireland, country—was done in opposition to the crown of this
iu the evert of any neceseitv for prohibition arising in that j country; and its effect is to be to erect these wise with
rnuntne The bill by refemel to would have further powers of government, note certainly in Edinburgh and
enaend that the maimeement of charities, whether existing I Ayrshire, but in Westminster and Middlesex, and the
or future charities, if the Roman catholic church in Eng- j people of Westminster and Middlesex have naturally
land, should be vested in lay trustees, and be administered thought that nobody should govern them—that nohudy heel
by is cheap process, in the Court of Chancery ; and that no a right to govern thole English territories. but the lawful
courts' spiritual, whether established here or having exist- sovereign of these realms. (Hear.) Anil besides, it has
tom in foreign countries, should be pernetted to administer been stated by the hon. tnember for Mayo (Mr. G.
in the cases of such charities. Thew enactments would Moore), who is • greet opponent of tbiu bin, that
have rendered it necessary for the church of Rome to frame the effect of the Popes recent act was not only Si. erect
it. future measures so as to consult not only the Roman ea- these sees and diorews, but to put an end to and abolish
tholie clergy, but the Roman catholic laity in Englund. It the Archbishopric of Canterbury and the leehopric of Lon-
Was with the views which he had now detailed to the house dun. (Hear, hear.) I sin at a loss to conceive how there
that he bad voted for the address; hut, in his opinion, can be nothing insulting, nothing affronting, and nothing
not one of the objects which they had pledged interfering with the dignity of the crown and the indepen-
themselves to carry out by that address would be effected deuce of the nation iu this. (Cheers, and " Hear, hear.")
by the measure now before the house. That measure would, The hon. member for Buckinghamshire has said that the
nevertheless, be most effective in • mischievous sense ; fur bringing forward .if the present bill is totally inconsistent
the simple meson that it would tend most powerfully to on my part after the declarations I have formerly made. I
stimulate the religious discords of the Irish people. This am not about to say that these declarations, amounting to
measure would he, in effect, a penal law in Ireland, and this, that I thought it childish and puerile to prevent the as.
there heel nut been a single reason *educed why such a law sumption of titles held by biehops of our own church—l am
was required. This caw ought not to be misunderstood. not about to say that this is consistent with the opinions
The English Roman catholics wished fur legislation on this which I hold now. (Hear.) Whatever may have formerly
subject. The Irish Roman catholic' repudiated all legisla- been my confidence with respect to the conduct of the
tion whatever affecting their present relations. As he viewed Roman catholic ecclesiastics--whatever may have been my
the question, both we're right—both were legally right. confidence with respect to the conduct of the people—l
When the measure of the government came fully have found since that time that that confidence woe mis-
before the house he should take every opportunity of placed. (Loud cheers, and "Hear, bear.") And I have
moving the omission from it of every word relating to thought it better clearly and plainly to avow that I was
Inland, or, if necessary, the introduction of a clause de- mistaken in the *pinions I had 'formed. The hon.
elating that the tell shall nut extend to Ireland. He member for Athlone (tr. Keogh) has said that my former
would also use his best endeavours so to amend the bill opinions, which have been so often quoted in the course of
as to make it really operative fur the protection of 'toeless this debate, were expressed when I was out of office', and
catholics. their property, their liberty, and their rights. that I had nothing then to conciliate in the shape
He would at present vote for the motion Oefore the house; of public opinion in Ireland. (Hear, hear.) It does hap-
and while declaring his intention to take the course he had pen that in 1846 I stated that I thought the introduction of
stated in all the future stages of the bill, he begged it to be any bulls might be admitted, because 1 did not think that
understood that he sympathised with none of the objections it would be attempted to introduce any bulls at variance
raised on the other side of the house, and that he did not with the rights of the crown. (Hear, hear.) I think lam
pertieipate in the denunciation directed against the noble certainly entitled to a little more endit for the motives by
lord for his supposed departure from the principles of civil which I have been actuated from the honourable gentlemen
and religious liberty, which he (Mr. Antsy) in his eon- of the Roman catholic faith who now sit in this house. For
science believed it to have been the noble lord's constant fourteen years I eat in this house, and whenever I did give
course to uphold and maintain inviolate. (Cheers.) a vote on the subject I voted for the admission of Roman
Mr. SPOONER (who was one of twenty members catholic' to parliament. I did so, and I have felt at elec-
who rose as Mr. Amery resumed his seat, wished that leave tions that it was at the expense of the confidence and the
might be at once given for the introduction of the bill, that popularity which I might have obtained had I
they might 11110 W what they were debating, Ile meanwhile fouo wed a contrary course. I did so at the
encouraged Lord John Russell to persevere, and to throw time against the feelings of the prince on the
himself, if necessary, upon the country to support him in throne, and against the voice of the great majority of the
ptoteming the protestant constitution of these realms. people of this country. (Hear, hear,) I did so, following
Mr. HOPE continued to maintain his opinion that no the example of a man worthy of immortal honour, Henry
repressive measures were necessary or warrantable at pre- Grattan, when the words Henry Grattan betokened great
tent eloquence and great public service. (Loud laughter, in
Col. THOMPSON intended to resist every act of aggreie which Mr. H. Grattan heartily joined.) Sir, I went on is
Sion, but wished to look for it in the rig't place ; and -con- that conduct until 1829, when Sir Robert Peel introduced a
sidered that the papal art was perpetrated under the anti- bill for the admission ofoßfotmh:heaiuthsoilirceß4,tiwn Peel,othishu
with a seean d
British prompting" of France. He inquired what remedy on the second reading
could be adopted if the Pope ordered all catholic soldiers in candour and • manliness which did him the highest
the English army to desert their colours? honour, said that the secrete of the measure was dee to the
Mr. HUME declared his great surprise at the words of exertions of Fox, Grattan, and others, who then sat oppo-
his hon. and gallant friend, regarding him, as he had always site to the right hen. baronet. (Hear, hear) He said that
done, same of the most staunch advocates of civil and reli- by them the measure hail been carried, and by them the
trio. liberty, .1 one whose public act, had eiweye been opposition which came from his own side of the house
those of aliberal politician. His (Mr. Hume's) opinion of had been defeated. At a subsequent period, when Sir
the matter was that Rome had been guided by the conduct Robert Peel introduced the art for the endowment of
of some of the most eminent men in this country, leaders in Maynooth, there was a great amount of strong popeke
the universities and the Church of England, learned men, feeling excited in the country. Hon. gentlemen will »-
who, within iethort time, had relinquished the protestant collect that many letters came up from our constituents
principles in which they had been bred, and betaken couched in severe terms, and threatening that we should
themselves to the Peipe and Catholicism. He had not again be elected if we voted for that bill. (Hear.)
little doubt that their representations and stories had exer- With very few exceptions, members of the opposition sup-
eised great influence • and that, looking to the character of ported that bill, and we were certainly the means of pass-
the Roman pontiff, belied acted as he had, being misinformed rag that measure.
suck
that
it is becominglthieitth
cconductinofßommvapnellie.
catholiclife
and misled 17 such men as these. And there were plenty ha. been
of such men, who had been brought up at the public ex- gentlemen to rise in this house and say that what I did
pease, and who betrayed instead of feoding the Hocks con- in 1844 and 1845 was merely done to conciliate popular
meted to their spiritual charge. (Hear, hear.) An hon. opinion. (Hear, hear.) I wish that Roman catholic"
member had very properly pointed out what was necessary should have the full enjoyment of religious liberty and per
to be done before the government embarked in the course 1 litical and civil liberty as well. (Hear.) I wiU not
they proposed—that the law, as affecting csaholim in Eng- much longer intrude on your notice at present. I trust
land Ireland, Scot/and, and the colonies, should be made that we shall be allowed to introduce this bill. In its future
intelligible to them. He had been anxious to see the bill stages I shall be ready to defend it; and if I cannot de-
of the government on the table before he said a word upon fend the course lam now taking as entirely consistent with
it, to see what the government really intended ; foe the declarations I made in 1844 and 1845, 1 hare this strong
the speech of the noble lord shadowed forth very imps*. ground on which to proceed—that new and unexpected
fettly the rause of this aggression. The noble lord called envamstances have arisen, and, in order to meet a new
upon them to put down aggression, but had not told them sigreesion, new measures have to Ise taken. (Cheers, and
what that eggeeseion was • and the bill ought to be upon loud cries lof " Divide, divide.")
the table in order Hutt they: might be better able to form an Mr. G. MOORE, amid considerable interruption,
opinion of what the government intended to do ; for the planed that be did not suppose that the Pope had pOretOX-
welch of the Attorney-Lamend was different from that of abolish protestant secs. (Hear, hear.) He had merely
ist noble lord, and he toad not reconcile the two, crt infer amertee: that the Pope had a right'
to alter Roman catholic
alhererise from the latter one than that he bill when laid
=gee table would now move difihreat from the measure M°Poisoer°eP°6)lM;Lneve(Hr (Hoar,
obneearm—omptevindteMpaiposetidel°.,)norildeid(stry.
ghe noble lord would have in the first instance pro- man suppose, that the Pope had any right or power
posed, bad he brought in his bill 016 Friday rifest. The house dioceses which existed in this country. H
alter
in fact were debating upon the questiener:ai=r not what Mr. FAGAN eleimed the right to be heard by this house
would
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MR. Disn.tEu desires it to be understood that he
will never preach any more charity sermons. His
past experience has shown him the futility of such
appeals on behalf of the wealthy and privileged
classes. He feels ashamed of the office, and declares
plainly he will never discharge its functions again.
Well we are glad of it, and we cordially congra-
tulate 'both the country party and their chief at
having consented to burn their political rags, and
assume at last the garb and attitude of indepen-
dence. And we think it a good sound lesson in pub-
lic morals that has been thus taught. A lung-
favoured interest, finding itself suddenly deprived of its
perquisites, and doubtless thereby exposed to great
disadvantages, forgetting its own dignity and deny-
ing its own worth, takes to what Mr. SYDNEY
IlEatultr was tempted to call "whining," and ask-
ing for compensation, commiseration, and, in fact,
parliamentary alms. Instead of pity or consideration,
this mendicant tone provokes only rebuke and scorn.
Importunity is reiterated on the one side, and repulse
is embittered. At length the unmanly tone of sup-
plication is laid aside and as equals and fellow-
labourers in the field of national industry the owners
and occupiers of land authorise their spokesman to
say fur them: "let bygones be bygones—let the
name of protection be forgotten; all we want is a fair
inquiryinto the comparative weight of our respective
burdens and a more equitable distribution of the
whole in future." _ _ .

.....
Whatever amount of fiscal:advantage the agricul-
tural interest may eventuully.gain by the proceed-
ing, it is clear that they do much to get themselves
out of the slough of despond. The very multiplicity
and heterogeneity of the specifies enumerated as
means of relief by Mr. Disitam.t, bespeak an altered
state of feeling. The inveterate air of scepticism
with which that accomplished political persfjleur
offered one by one the motley contents of his budget,
and the impartial readiness he professed to fling over-
board any one, two, or half-dozen of them, as circum-
stances might hereafter demand, in itself indieates
how attenuated is the reliance of his followers on his
ability to do much substantially for them. The new
and varied demands seem rather to be put forward
as a point of party honour—to furnish a decent ex-
cuse for giving up the contest. And in this spirit
we do not wonder that many are upon our side dis-
posed to meet the proffer.
Free trade is won; the victory is complete; the
triumph as great as our hearts could wish. NVliat
more do we want ? In this respect nothing but the
signature of a final pacification, and recognition
by all parties heretofore belligerent, of the new
status quo. Unquestionably, it is a drawback on
our satisfaction that this should have been so
long deferred. While a disalkyted minority, how-
ever powerless to reverse the great fortunes of the
field, appear in arms, our time and attention is liable
to be diverted from more profitable thoughts to re-
pelling the vexatious though vain attacks of the
defeated party. Duriug the last four sessions we
have seen, night after night, nay, week after week,
fruitlessly occupied in this miserable strife. We
must do Mr. Disassu the justice to say that with
him individually it has always seemed an unwelcome
task—like a nephew's grief, on behalf of the
family, at the funeral of a wicked old
uncle, who, lie thinks, in his heart, had
better have died long ago. But still the
interminable obsequies had to be gone through over
and over again, and still Items as much as his place
was worth to miss upon any occasion playing the
part of chief mourner. All that we have now a
chance of getting rid of at last ' • and, in a voice as
nearly resembling that of laughter as the member
for Bucks is capable of, he sings invitingly, " Let us
be gay!"
But the terms: what is the sine qua non of conces-
sion on our side to be? In point of fact Mr. DPMAELI
seems to have purposely offered every conceivable (to
say nothing of some inconceivably absurd) bases for
legislative negotiation. Some people wish for free
labour as obtainable by the overthrow of the old
law of settlement. Others want free capital
as we might have it by certain modifications
of the Bank Act of 1844. Mr. HERRIES has read us
an ingenious "exercitation" in finance regarding the
effects on prices of a five-shilling duty on corn; and
Mr. CAYLEY is all but crazed on the subject of the
malt tax. But for my own part, the orator seems to
say, I want nothing in particular, save to have done
with the endless squabble of which I am sick, about
our lost protection: and all I insist upon is to get
something, it signifies little what, to show as the
consideration for crying quits and being done with
the whole concern.
We have already expressed our willingness to take
the gentleman at his word, and fairly to go into the
investigation with him with a sincere view to try
and come to terms. We have squandered enough of
time in seeing the whigs thrice slay the slain of
PEEL. We want to get on with other work, and to
see parliament occupied with positive progress, not
merely re-arguing settled questions. There may be
, items of local expenditure which there 19 no insur-
!mountable reason against having placed among
simi-
lot charges on the consolidated fund ; and as for the
extreme measure of what is termed a national rate,
j we believe if the country gentlemen had the option
of taking it to-morrow, they would not accept
it. So in like manner, as regards our monetary
' system. We have never joined with the monopolist'
of credit and capital ; nor should we object to seeing
a less artificial system adopted in lieu of that so
lmuch extolled but so little appreciated scheme of
1844. We agree very much with Mr. DISRAELI'S
pmtulate, if there be free trade in produce let us
have free trade in the means of production. Labour'
as one of those means requires undoubtedly to be set
free from territorial adscription ; but so likewise
does the soil itself. No bondage is closer than that
in which land itself is held. No benefit in monies
numbered as well as in every social and moral rela-
tion could possibly be greater than that which both
owners and occupiers would receive from the legal
emancipation of the soil.
But we sun recognise nothing in common between
these ideas and those grotesque and marvellous nos.
trams which the tory leader, for some inscrutable
reason, thought proper to ventilate during his speech
of Tuesday night about sugar manufactured from ,
beet-root, and tobacco grown at home. lie might

Dust as well talk of the wrongs we suffer from the
inhabitants of the Gold Coast because parliament
won't stint us to the use of palm oil expressed from
the costly branches that might be reared in our
English hot-houses. Tropical produce must be
sought from the tropics. To try and force its exotic
I growth in our chilly zone would be the merest tolly
land Quixotism.

fallen off, the capital of the landlords in greater than
it was; their indirect taxation and the price of their
tea, suer, bread, &c. less than it was; and even
their direct taxation has been diminished by the
increased number of those who pay a share of ►t.

FRANCE.

PARIS, WIMNPADAY Evintlxn,

The event of the day is the appointment of tho
bureau of the Assembly. M. Lupin was re-elected
president, by 371 votes, out of 383; 'Mathieu de la
Drome, leader of the moderate section of the Moun-
tain, obtained 71 ; General Lamoricierv, 61; M. Ilas
rock, 38; Michel de Itour;.;rts, leader of the ultra-
socialist section of t IteMoun min, 16. .

LONG practice has certainly made our landowners
adepts in the art of making what the Scotch call
"a puir month." To listen to them in this day,
which themselves admit to be one of general pros-
petite, one might fancy that they alone remained,
like flit:oN''s fleece, dry and adust, while every
thing around was moistened with fertilising dew.
They will have it that every body is prosperous but
themselves, and that the well-being of all their
neighbours is, in their unhappy condition, very aggra-
vating. They exclaim, with Shylock, that there are
no tears but of their shedding, no sighs but those
which they heave.
There ate, however, many things which tend to
make people rather sceptical as to the truth of their
" pitiful story." m ..'ALTER SCOTT says of Rashkigh
atbablitilms, with his limp, round shoulders, and
bull neck, that his me'odious voice would have ren-
dered him irresistible to a blind mistress. Our mal-
content squires hare a gentle melancholy in their
whine that would infallibly move all men to tom-
passion, but their portly persons and jolly Colla-
tenances undo the charm. And though they vow
that they have not a sixpence to bliss themselves
with, whenever they move the clinking of money is
heard in their pockets.
Our means are decreasing is their latest complaint,
while the wealth of every other class is on the in-
crease, and yet we are the most heavily-taxed por-
tion of the community. Have their means really de-
creased of late years? Has their load of taxation
continued unabated?
A return of the amounts of property assessed under
schedule A. of the property and income tax, in
various years, from 1814 to 1848, tells a different
story. The aggregate value of real property has in-'
creased immensely during that period, among other
means by the creation of new kinds of real property
entirely unknown in its earlier years. The value of
railway property, non-existent in 1814, was esti-
mated in 1842 at 2,417.810/. ; in 1843 at
14,316/. ; in 1848 at 3,790,386/. At pre-'
sent its value must be considerably greater.
Now of this new species of real property eoma
ratively little is held by the lords the land. its
owners take upon them a share of taxes which were
formerly borne by the landowners alone. They bear
their fair proportion of the property tax, and the
squires have taken good care that they shall
bear much more than their fair proportion of the
local rates. Our Atlases no longer carry the lend of
schedule A on their lonely and unaided shoulders;
' sturdy fellow burden-beariws have come to their aid.
Nor is this all. If they do not hold largely of this
new real property, they have been considerable gainers
by its creation, though instead of having any claim
to a share in the honour of its invention, they have
done much to thwart its growth. How much have
the owners of these railways been obliged to pay to
the lords of the soil baize they could get ground
whereon to construct them? If Mr. GEORGE HUDSON
were to speak out as frankly as a gentleman once
nearly as notorious, M. Vinoun, he could tell strange
tales of the coat at which landlord opposition to rail-
ways has often been bought off. Of every hundred
pounds that the cnterpnsc of railway promoters has
called into existence a heavy per ventage has 'Mind
its way into landowning pockets. When the squire
taunts the shareholder with the amount of his gains,

the latter may fairly answer him as Alstaf did 'Pistol
--"Did'st thou not participate? had st thou not
eighteeniwnce?" Wilco landlords reckon up the di-
minished ratio their rents bear to their aeres, they
always omit to carry to account the increase that
has been made to their capital—if they have not

The results of the ballot, for vwe-presidents and
- • • ••••

secretaries were as follows --There wire 593 voters.
Vier-presidents: General Redenti obtained 351;
Duru, 353; Leon Faucher, 321; Benoit d'Azy 284.
Secretaries: Arnaud, 414; Liwaze, 369; (,teapot.
; Peupin, 346; Berard, 305. Heckert-au did not
obtain a majority, so that the same bureau has been
reappointed, with the exception of M. Benoit d'Azy,
vice-president, and M. lleckereen, who did not ob-
tain the absolute majority.
The club of the 2a6 held a meeting at the moms of
the Conseil d'Etut on Monday night to deliberate on
the renewal of the bureau of the Assembly. They
agreed to support the present bureau, hut in ease any
opposition shouldbe made by the parties of MM . biers
and Berryer, they appointed a csammittt c consisting of
M. Montalembert and others, to prepare a new list
out of their own body. The Mole Club are said to be
disposed to maintain the present bureau.
Last night the legitimists met in their club in the
Rue Rivoli, and 'sussed a resolution in thvonr of
maintaining the bureau of the Assembly unaltered.
The Mori ear 1111.110UnCeR that the President will
not receive as usual on Thursday evening.
Notwithstanding the President's refusal to accept
a national subscription, the Bonapartist neweptix•rts
encourage the plan, proposing that the funds should
be devoted to the erection of wane public monument
as a testimony of the national sympathy with Louie;
Napoleon. 'the Pays is forward in pressing this
scheme, and dwells upon the extensive contributions
and letters which have been received at its office
with the view of forwarding u national subscription.
Doubtless, front this activity of the Bonapartists in
promoting a collection which the chief of their party
renounced, has arisen the contradictory nature of the
statements thut prevailed upon this sthect.
Nurvaez is expected here this evening or to-
momov. . . • _

M. ]lupin, having been proclaimed president of
the Assembly, the house proceeded to discuss tho
report of M. Vatimesnil on the propositions for re-
form in the laws relative to mortgage. The Lest
articles of the committee's bill were passed.
. -

The Sixteenth Committee of Inithitive ham recom-
menced the taking into consideration of tw•o proposi-
tions for opening the butcher-trade, in their reterenco
to the committee of inquiry upon the production of
cattle and the butcher-trade.

M. Fouquier d'llerouel had brought forward a mo-
tion for a committee of inquiry into the causes of
agricultural distress.
You arc aware that M. Base, the irascible questor,
has presented a motion for making a clear sweep of
all the newspapers from the Boulevards and other
public haunts where they are sold. It seems likely
that the principle of thi, motion will he adopted by
the committee of initiative, to which it has been re-
ferred; and thus will be removed a perennial source
of complaint on the part of the liberal journals,
which are at present excluded from street-sale.
M. Waysse, Minister of the Interior, has just in-
terdicted the representation at the theatre of the
Porte St. Martut of a comedy, the objectionable
nature of which may be conceived hum its title,
" Mr. Pritchard."
The funds remain firm. The Fives closed at the

thoughtlessly squandered it away.
But railways are not the only kind of real prn-
perty that has brought new tax-payers to alleviate
the load of the assessed under Schedule A, by taking
upon them a share of the burden, and for allowing
which to be admitted to the honour of paying au
impost, once the exclusive privilege of the sail, the
landowners have made its owners pay them libe-!
rally. Canals, which in 1814, when classed with
divers other items, were valued at some unknown
fraction of 574,727/., were valued in 1842 at
1,2.29,202/.; in 1843 at 1,212,0161.; and in 1818 at
1,108,545/. Gas works, which in 1814 were also in-
cluded under the general designation •s other pro-
iwrty," were assessed in 1815 at 43,0311.; in 181 M
at 648,898/. Not a farthing of this new property
has been created without bringing grist to the land-
owners mill; and every pound of it helps to reduce
hru tanto the proportional amount of their contribu-
tions to the national revenue.
There is another matter that must not be left out of
sonsiderution. We learn from the return above referred

prices of yesterday.
A woman, who tio.ured as Goddess of Liberty in
one of thefrtes of the old revolution, died lutely at
Hontleur. The reds wanted to get up a demonstra.
tion on the occasion, but were prevented by tho
authorities. _ _

A crime, attended with singular eireumstamrs, has
been perpetrated in the department of the Meurthe.
A father exposed his infant in the forest of harms

bourg, with a. hundred-franc note pinned to its clothes,
and set a peasant to watch. Shortly there camp
by a wood-ranger. and taking up the child tenderly,
as if about to treat it humanely, unpinned the noto
and put it in his pocket. He then took tho child,
beat out its brains against a tree, and buried it.
What became of the twasant during. this time is not
mentioned; but hewato mod the erune.

1 huppose you will hare received, ria Berlin, news
of Dembinnkrs liberation and presence at Conatan-
tinople.
The I)uchess of Sutherland has arrived at tho
Hotel .Ikleurice.

to that quarries, assessed in 1814 at 49,502/., had
risen in IMB to 290,108/.; mines had risen in value I
in the same time from 612,2031. to 2,174,229/. ; iron
works had risen from 412,1122/. in 1812 to 738,278/.
All this increased area of taxation has been called
into existence by the capital, ingenuity, and enter-
prise, not of the landowners, but of other classes of
society. The value of the landlords' property has been
, increased by the toil of others; they have been paid
liberally for looking on and allowing others to labour.
Have they ally right to complain that the state claims
a moderate contribution from the augmented wealth
which the industrious of society have gratuitously
bestowed upon them?
Yet, again : the aggregate value of lands as (UM
messed under Schedule A m 1814 was :34,330,4631. •
in 1848 it was 42,317,8701. The aggregate assessed
value of messuages in 1814 was 14,895,1311!. ; in
1848 it was no less than 38,822,151/. The contribu-
tion of the land to the property and income tax in
1814 was to the contribution from messuages in the
proportion of rather more than two to one; in 1848
their contributions were nearly equal. But the bur-
den on lands is borne almost exclusively by the land-
lord class; the burden on messuages only presses
upon them in common with all other proprietary
classes. Here, again, their load has been lightened
by the accession of an immense number of assistants
in carrying it.
From another return which has reached us, along
with that from which we have been quoting, it ap-
pears that of the sum total of the national revenue in
1851 no less than 21,904,5601. was derived from cus-
toms duties alone. Of this total, upwards of four
millions was derived from duties upon sugar, upwards
of five millions and a half from duties on tea,
rather more than half a million from duties on coffee
and cocoa. Recent reductions in all three classes of
duties have diminished the amount contributed by
our landowners in that form to the national income,
and have called into existence new classes of con-
sumers who contribute largely to it. Here again we
find the pressure of taxation on the landowners
greatly diminished, and by that very system of free
trade which they would have us believe is injuring
them.
These facts warrant the conclusion that instead of
undergoing a process of continuous impoverishment,
the land-owning class have of late years been having
the value and amount of their property steadily aug-
mented ; that instead of having the ratio of their
share of the contributions to the national revenue
augmented, or even kept at the old rate, they have
had it much diminished. For merely looking on and
allowing others to work (and pay them for leave to
work) they have had their property increased and
their burdens lessened. Their complaints of the
increased quantity of corn and beeves consumed by
the industrial classes, and the lower prices paid for
them, arc quite in the spirit of the country shop-
keeper, who, when congratulated on the growing
prosperity of his neighbours, replied—" What is
' their greater wealth to me, so long as they spend
so much of it in the shop of that fellow over
the way ? "
It is in vain for the landowners to attempt to hum-
bug the public, and persuade them that the returns
of trade and navigation for the year 18.50 are falla-
cious indications of a mere seaming national prospe-
rity. Without reference to prices, the large importa-
' lions of corn, cattle, and butter, and the large
amounts of eggs, coffee, tea, and sugar, en-
tered for home consumption, show that more
mouths ate being better fed than fornaerly.
The 3,778,435 quarters of wheat and the 3,858,332
not& of wheat meal and flour entered for
home consumption In 1830 hate gladdened the
hearts of many an honest and industrious family.
' And if home-grown wheat and flour have brought
lower prices, and if rents have in some instances

The purchase of reacts on account of the depot:is
tors in the Savings Bank for the hod three months
of 1109 amounted to 32,000 fr. of mite, which cost
977,000 fr. Before that period, and since June 22,
DM, the amount purchased wan 1,000,000 fr. of
rente, at a emit of 21 millions of franc*.