The Express.
London, England, 1865-05-18 00:00:00

THE RONAN CATHOLIC OATH BILL.

iftwew ripest ha petteday,
Mr. O. PORTIVIOUR mid he wished to address the
home ha mper. of this bill, sad he rested his me upon
the merits sad priaelpies at the question. Within the
lest few yams this oath had acquired • chancier which it
did sot parrs before, and it wee far more offensive now
than it wee before the year 1858. In that year • great
sheep wee made la the oath taken by protestant members
of this bows. Keay ourpressioas which were commits to
teeth oaths Mr* shack oat of the protestant oath, avowedly
se the ironed of their objectionable character, while they
Wen rehhad is the Romacatholic oath. (Hoer, bear.)
Therefore, while it still retained its ambiguous cassucter, it
wee now Millman offensive than it was before the year 1858.
ti ar. WHITESIDE mid that this oath was • public
reword of • condition upon which • body of men oh-
taised • participation of sad in all the blessing of the
esestitutiou, and it was • public: reward of the Leomn
upon which they received them bred* and every it
was repeated wee an afilimaises of those exaditimas. It wee
el the Imt cooesquwes to keep the oath in its present
state, for it wee the principle whisk was °ordained in the
Hmancipation Act, vie., that this wee a protestant state—
that the mows wee protesteat sad that the oonstitiition
was protestant, and that all ironies Musson mut be
excluded. (Hear.)
GREY mad there wsa Redoubt an opinion in Ireland
hostile to the eatabliehed &arch, sod the 'emaciation to
whisk the right hoe. geatlimaa rehired bad plaited ma re-
seed their desire to subvert that church ; but that wee not
differest from the views entertained by many dimentere.
MLA part of the oath wore to be retained, thee extend
it
CreVtati ltinwhiebd. e:rell: might not object, hew Ttrose w tnit ofmaoyan wbers of
their
dimenthe friends might. But let them not be artist
Ist the het, let the smutty be applied, not only to the
Roman catholic' but to those who made no secret of their
hostility to the established church. Ile had spoken of the
rotes/Let diameters, those who eat in the house
sad those whom they represented, sad of their
views with herd to the established church, but
whatever their views of the established church might be
then were no firmer friss& of the protestant religion.
'what did they my He head in the report of the sow.
alines as publ c petitioes that the committee of the nine
denominatiaes of asesaten within twelve mar of Londe",
rettto protect their civil righh, bad promoted • peti-
our of the bill cow before the house. which the peti-
tioners wen sexism should be pissed Into law, sod stating
that to their opinion the proons of the bill
were jut and desirable. He met say he thought
the petition did them pest credit, and he trusted
that the house would take the same view, that there was
so sufficient mama for maintelaing tbeseso-called securities.
He did not for • moment believe that any member of the
Roma catholic ohm* would besitate to hike this oath, /at
at the same time they hit is a degradation, and therefore
it wee that be theme't they bad • fair claim to be relieved
from what he believed to be no reel security to the pro-
le:staid religioo. He hoped at all eves/. That the
house would reed the bill • second time, and go into com-
mittee. to onside' what should be the form of the oath;
sad he hoped that one rowan oath would be substituted,
that they might all sit there in equality, and that there
Amid be no mutual taunts reproaches ; and he must say
that the subject of oaths generally ought to come before
them, sad that the oaths taken by others than the embers
et that boasts eight be revised. (Hoar.)
Er. *WALPOLE opposed the second 'reading on two
first, that the disterbed the settlement made
L"lfwats,without giving one form of oath to all members
mod sinoodly, that until they were prepared upon the
reepossibility of the government to recommend that one
tam of cath should be administered, he thought it would
he desirable to leave the matter as it was left in 1858.
(Hear.4mar.)
LfilliNOX supported the bill, with the full intim-
tiole'lLexercising every privilege in committals towards
triaging about an assimiletion of all oaths. He thought
that when chimes were called into that house to performs
IMMO° duty they should have one oath administered.
Mr. KENNEDY also supported the mooed reading of
the bill. He maintained that if that house was
to
of a people they must govern with the con-
meet of that people. They wsse vow legislative for Deland.
sad they ought to prepare seek a form of oath as would
mai* the population of that country.
My COLLINS metemded that Oboes who opposed this
hill would be guilty of • breach of °entreat, because they
were iso impose • dimbllity which was not imposed
by the sot 1829. He thought they hid no right to call
epos the Roman catholice to take a special oath.
With regard to the clause for the preservation of the estab-
lished churehtt was very difilecdt to give any definite mean-
ing to the clause, sad if the oath was to be takes by cos set
of menshers,itought to be takes by all, for there whet muck,
and perhaps more, dame, to the established church from
the noocoeformints 11111 from the Roman catholic. (Hear.
hem.) Attacks were more contently made on the estab-
lished church by the oonocaformist than by the Roman
catholic members of the house. He, thoraces, thought it
we time to recede tram an untenable position, and he
trusted that the home would affirm by • Lap majority the
second reading of the bill. (Hoar, hear.)
The hones then divided :
For the mooed reeding l9O
net 134-86
The bill we the read • 'send time.

Mr. NEMDEGATE pre seems theA ea the =doe for
ping into committee ea the bW on Friday next, he should
MOTO that the bill becesomiliedi that day mix months.
SMOKE NITISANCE (BCrrpIutOTLAND) ACTS AMEND.
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This bill was read a mood
DOGS REILTLATION (IRELAND) BILL.
The borne went into committee on this bill, and agreed
to five chimes.
On clause 6, is answer to an appeal from Mr. MlSulogy,
Sir R. PEEL said that the object of the bill was to impose
• tax of 2s. on every dog in Ireland, the prase, of
the text* go in reduction el musty ems, and also to impose
a fee of on registration et every dog the produce of
ma fee to go in augmentation of the salaries of petty sea-
gime clerks, who were at present insdequataly remunerated.
Amtunieg that there were 500,000 doge in Ireland, the pre-
date of the tax would be 50,0001. The expense of earrft.g
mat the bill would be 1,0001., and the remaining 49,0 Mi.
wadi go to the counties.
Mr. HENLEY asked whether the produce of the tax
weld be brought into the o:Almoner.
Wir R. PEEL said it would not ; it would be distributed
through the legal oilcan la Ireland.
Mr. AYRTON thought that the DM was as Inland
revenue bill, and ought to be dealt with as moth.
The CHAIBIIAN said that in his opinion the bill win
not properly a taxing bill.
The further disunion of the bill ceased, the hour of 5.45
having arrived.
EXCHEQUER BONDS (21,000,000) BILL.
This bill paled through committee.
FIRE BRIGADE.
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On the motion of Mr fieliii.3 leer. .es given to brieg
ia a bill for the establishment of a ire brigade in the metro-
peli•
INCLOSURE (No. 2) BILL
Os the motion of Mr. BARING leave was area to ultim-
ate the lecloanre of mortals lands in permtanee of a report of
the IneloanreComtaimiooere of England and Wales.
The house adjoareed eta few minutes to 6.