The Express.
London, England, 1865-03-03 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 3, 1865.

Nougats whilst oath: monad, oad to inquire ultathar the
fitoolosy too tats Haw Doportomot propound tabs my
ships to obtain their bettor treatassat. He thought that
sufficient considsratiso bad act bit/torto been given to the
treatiouat iadividusis mast oath oii:numstanson. T.ho

prtsaiple of—th•falsiTr;••
an vita • mos wee found guilty he was presumed lo be
innooset. Now la the case to which he wished to oall the
*Manioc of the boa" two gestlemea wen charged with
conspities to Mara awhile imearance daces, and three
others with tummy. The Merge was made a month ago,
end the parties bed bass reminded week atter week, the
alderman sot thinking it right to allow then I. go at
PLHe (Mr. Leeks) did not wish to make say charge
ast the the aldermen ; his charge was spirit the nth°.
ties of the dry of Lades for the mark in which they coo.
ducted the prima of Newlin'. Then persons had to clean
oat their owe cells ; they could act see their hinds agent
through ma keel grating and in the promos of the paler
ttrty had no bade and fork to est Mak dinner with ; sad
they were, in point of feet, made domestic innate in a
plan where they ought not to be treated as arimisale, but
simaly kept is confinement. Now, under whose directing
wen the goal of Nonni? Is the report of the Coutsibi-
Bios of Inquiry of 1854 it was stated that the Mart of
Aldermen ware Militated a court of Quarter Session
far prison porpoise, ands the statute 4 Geo. 1V... 84.
The Court of Aldermen had the paused making raise far
the regulation of Henan, and Itie did not say that they
had made worse raise thee three which applied to other
prisons. He believed that no eonsiderstiou bad been ginn
in that bone to panniers under remand, and the open
queue was that they bad to ekes on their own cells and
do other menial work to which be would not more partica-
Moly allude. The two palletises wine ones he had men-
tioned ware obliged by the poises to do all this. The hon.
and learned member then read extracts from the speech of
Mr. Serjeant Ballantioe, who append for the prinooses
when they ware brought up on reamed oa Thursday last, Is
the rerun of which he stated that though the primaries
wen ready to pot in bail to any amount they had bees sub-
ject to all rhea ni= and paitiehmen of ociavieted Mese, and
that if we had beard of premiers midst remand being ault-
jested to such treatment in soy other put of Serape we
should have deuounced it as gross Ivan,. Mr.
Gifford, who appeared for the prossoutke. also
stated that he was sorry the prisoners kid bees
treated I. the meson represested, sad that be

did sot thick N ..;;roper"---it;stot;u-TtowLis ma who
wen in prima only for safe custody. And Mr. Altiensie
Stone sealed that he wee sorry to hear the prism mettle-
tions were soc► as had bar deadliest, bet that theeit were
matters within the province it the Home Seentery, end
did not rest with the magistrates, sod that if any gramme
suited it wee le parlianteet that the remedy was to be
foiled. He (Mr. Locke) did not think that convicted (elms
would be trailed en bedly. Mace he pat this moths as
the paper be bad received sommunkatioes se to the
treatment of penman under remand in other please. One
was freer the Isle of Wight la which they said that the
treatment at Newgete was sot near so bads that to which
their prisoners were subject. He said the right hoe
asaleman whether be wee mime of what was spin es
throughout the country, sad whether ►e Maeda in the bill
he bad blame the WIND to remedy this state of thins,
and whether the old English prlssipie, that a man was to
be damned loncesst until be was found guilty wee to be
carried out, sod that prkesers who were mangy under
renasd should not be treated as if they bad bees caseated.

lb. TORRENS mid a ernes lied come under hie *Moe of
• penal named Hull, who was charged with illegally paws.
ing. He was taken to a police statics in Loathe, aid
having come through the nab his garment, were wet. He
applied for leave to seed for dry clothes, which wee refused,
and he had to remain in his wet clothes all night. la the
morals( Lae was a little show of . Some hat air
was let Into the room, but the man died, he believed
within twelve hours. An baguet was held, and the
verdict was, died of bronchitis, accelerated by the
treatment he had received in the station-house ;
and the coroner said be quite agreed in the
verdict of the fury, that similar 0111111 bad previously come
wider his sodas, aid that as. which had occurred shortly
before at the Harlboroughetreet station, had come before
him, and that he had brought it before the Home Secretary.
He (Hr. Tomas) thought something ought to be dose to
prevent Asexuality inflicted es primmers under remand.
Sir G. OREY said if the km. gmitleman had given Mm
ocelot) that he intended to mention specific uses, be should
have been prepared with information about them, and he
had no doubt that an explanation could be given. With
regard to what had been stated by the boo. member for
Southwark, be understood him to make a double complaint;
one was that in the came to which be referred, the prisoners
IMO not admitted to bail.

Mr. LOCKE did not complain of amt.
Sir G. GREY—Then the only complaint wan as to the
treatment which they received in prises. la theses' to the
question put to him the other night, he dietleetly stated
that primmer* wider remand were not subjected to mater
hardships that prisoners emaciated at crime ; sad that there
was a marked riff/near is the treatment of prisoners tender
reamed and after conviction ; various privileges
being allowed to the latter which were not allowed to the
former. He knew notbieg at all of this particular cue. He
had not bad any oomplaint mad* to him, either hem the
primmers or from those who reprenestied them, of any henh
treatment to which they had bees subject. If be had re-
ceived sub complaint be should have referred it to
the only penese who by law bad to make the nen-
latices to which such persons were subject. munely,
the visiting justices. The boa member quoted a statement
of Alderman Same, that the Secretary of State wee the
person responsible ; but the worthy alderman was distinctly
wrong, because the visiting justices wore the only persons
who had the making of them remelatiass. If them pri-
moors would address to him any statement of harsh treat-
meet be should refer it to the visiting magistrates, end m-
oat them to make their report span it. There was no
statutory rule as to prisoners under remand, but there were
certain rules and regulations which were roads by the visit-
ing ansgiatratia.

COURTS OF JUSTICE BUILDING BILL.
Thin blll wee reed s third time and peened.

COURT Or CHANCERY (IRELAND) BILL.

The three bills so this aubleoa—nee introduced be the
Attorney-General, and the other two by Mr. Whiteeide—
were reed • woad tiste, it Wog arranged that the dieeur
dote on all of them should be taken at • later stage.

TAXATION OF IRELAND.

Mr. HENNESSY (for Weisel Dunes) moved that the
select committee au this 'abject be rereppoisted.
Agreed Ma

Sir 9 NORTHCOTE moved that it be an instruction to
the committee to iequire into the system upon which ad-
vances were made and »payments required by the imperial
government for drainage and other works of public utility
le Ireland.
Agreed to.