The Express.
London, England, 1853-06-24 00:00:00

THE INDIA BILL.

The ardor el ths-d-sili;;Wei esearittas is this bill
haviag bra no&
Kr. M. 01111014 • petition her the Idar-
abeam' Carew sit Caste ezpermiag the errata die-
eriefeeties of .as petitioare et the wart of par goers.
seat is itrltla tied* Gad earaillizielt:
the
Winesahl.
not 'mortar say hops boa tho •_
bow that thy farm peveraarab maid 111,11edlef 111ey
signified (boil'er's( Min that a periba ..snap
.f
ladi. be (nerd to intereel isarievesseat. nem
that le rio spot essiestrari wan sad tentreled Gs-
grailisereat; sad they senainded by prsyiag art a esa.
Omura bill should los prod far two year only. The
right boa. geatleraa pr.rst.d • similar priers imin
tbo Conneriol of Moaebetter—erlie two
bodies together migrated •31 the varied pease Wow
Nod in tie quake.
Mr. BLACKITT peesored • petition be the ears Week
from the Clisiabst of Corineno he Mayoras. fiareped.
.s 4 Shields. _ .

—ti. C. WOOD s awed the nosed readier spas
which

Led STABIL/1T proptlin the &Bann sandman :
" Mak a the nen el this henss nen inareestien is
anomaly. to *sable penmen to Infant with adeni-
ne
for the penmen geveleasat ef ladle ; aid that, at
this law period ef the stain. it is imennisat w nand ,
with a sneasare whisk, well, it Minn *Medea amen-
nets, nen be easeidored as a LAM settleasat." The
eon lord thee presened to make a greet mean ,
of nernatien het be did is is sash • low
sad landed ten ef nick that it was rally
impossible for say en is the galley to say enetly what the
eon Ladd neat is awry; het how the fragmeatary '
teatimes that sine heard is is eonectend that he aimed I,
the hone, it was by as men ea a metier of wane, bet
from a real holies ef the eseserity odor whin he ley he
their henna. that ha natured to appeal to the ie.
dainass of his. members on both ades. The right boa.
bar net the President of the Board of Centel, vim he
Minden the bill, had eartaialy sot laid limn! egos,
either is dacrihiag the provisions of the sonars or in the
statement in whin it was brought hewne to the sharp
of basin hind to ',plain with eel lein Manna kh
views apes awry qiestisa of ladies policy. The entitles.
gentleman, with great ability and inanity, bad pared the
oh,.',e history of the British administration la Ink through
review ; bet it would not be neormary (orbits (the ante kord)
to follow him through his spree), or indeed Omagh any 41.10.
side. able pert of it. The abject of the eminent, of
which he had gives notice, did not deal at all with the
question " How is the futon goverameat of India to he
carved en ? " He did an ask the house to pass say ver-
dict, either of ensue or acquittal, apes the adniaistratioa
of the East India Company ; aor did he ask them to ex-
press any opinion, either of approval or condensation, epee
the 'titers of double government On the contrary, the
whole scope and taming of his =indent was to show
that it was not at that moment candlelit or advisable to
come to a &elates upon any of these subjects. (Bear,'
hear) Lie asked them only to affirm that now, towards the
close of a protracted session—that now, when the pubis
opinion of India could not Le elicited—that now, whoa
public opinion in England opon the question of
the Indian constitation could hardly be said to be
matured ; and that now, above all, when the
committee which was bitting upon the subject had not
'sported to the house the decision to which it had case, it
was not el/wheat, it was not advisable, it was hardly por
Bible, to legislate upon the permanent government of India.
(Cheers.) The rowel parliament bad met math sulier

than usual. They had met early in Novi:mist r, and sat six
weeks. They then adjourned and re-asambled &win In
February. They had sat continuously since then, and they
had now, in the month of June, entered upon the discus-
sion of one of the largest and most important measures thet
during the last twenty years or the last h .It century, hid
ever been submitted to the house. (Hear, hear) 0.
course, it might he said that, considering the momentous
character of the Lill, and the deep ins rest takes in it ht
the public, it would be no great sacrifice on the part of par-
. liniment it it were to protract its sittings even a little longer.
But it parliament ruse about the 10th of Awn', their nes-
-I{i,./0 would have lasted nine months with only two brief
intervals; and be did not think it would be r.mvunable—
certainly he did not think it would be justifiable that psi-
!dissent would cansent—to 'steed their Bitting.; further.
(liver, he ir.) Besides he could not conceive anything
more injurious to the character of the house than that they
should sit almost permanently, and should have no, or but
short, intervals, in which to look bark upon what they had
done and to consider what they ought t, do in future. Ile
I did not think, therefore, that it would be desirable to pro-
tract their sittings beyond neat August; and would they,
lwithin six weeks or two months, at the moat, of that time,
and when they had so much other business before them,
undertake legislation upon such a subject? (Hear, hear.)
Tnere was no measure of anything like the same
magnitude that hail been hurried through the legisla-
ture in so short a period as was proposed to be as-
signed to this. (Hear, hear.) Nor was this all. It
might have been said with respect to the eases lie hail
quoted that they related to subjects upon which the.public
opinion had already been formed. That certainly
vivid net be argued in the pees. cat case. (Cheers.)
Nearly all the witnesses yet examined had been civil
or military servants of the Company—(cheers)—and a
barge proportion or them were persons who had re-
tired from that service. (Hear, hear.) The state t f
public opinion at borne might be described as a general
[soling of dintatirfaetionwith the manner in which the govern-''
meat of laths had been carried on. There was a general
impression that some change was desirable, but there was an
equally general ignorance as to tho proper nature of that
change. (Hear.) Ile was therefore perfectly justified in de-
' teribing public opinion as not yet sufficiently d, and
is saying that it was quite necessary that they should not
deal with the subject without the report of the committee.
(Cheers.) But it had been argued that although the com-
mittee had not concluded their labours they had taken all
the evidence they intended on the subject of the constitu-
tion, and that therefore they might proceed to legislate upon
this without waiting fur the rest. But that was an utterly
erroneous view. A tree was only to be judged of by its fruit,
and an silministration only by experieace. (Cheers.)
It had been aid by a member of the government in
another place, that if they were to wait for full in-
formation it would involve a delay, not of weeks or months,
but of year.. This might be true ; but it would be just as
wise to urge that it was useless to attempt to master
the subject at all. (Hear, hear.) It was said there was
great danger in euspeoding legislation on account of the
agitation to which it would give rise in India. He saw no
danger of the kind. Tne agitation referred to could not
mean physical force agitation. He did not believe that
there was any single instance of a serious disturb-
exec or agitation in India ever since it had been
is the possession of this country. (Hear, hear.)
Legislstion with regard to India had been frequently sus-
pended before, and the government had been put upon its
trial. T
his had been known to the natives of India, just as
well as it was now - but on no former occasion bad any agi-
tation been produced. The case was the same in 1793,
1813, and 1E33; but there had been no agitation. He did
not believe that anybody seriously entertained such an ap-
prehension ; for there was no reason why any disturbance
or agitation should take place. Let them consider the un-
warlike habits of the people. Then there was no such
thing as an Indian nationality. The Ilindoo would not
trust the Mohammedan, nor the Mohammedan the Hindoo.
The result of the whole policy pursued by the East India
Company had been to diminish, as far as possible, the num-
ber of eminent, indueetial, and wealthy men amongst the
natives. (Cheep) At that moment, if there were an in-
clination to create • disturbance, it could not be done. Osl
the other hand, we had a great and powerful army la
the country, a distinct nationality, and men of talent'
and erpenence in the management of affairs. Within the
last few years any iadependent states had been subjs.
gated and. conquered ; and after once laying down theft
AMP. they had risen again in revolt subset Ger ens
thority. It was not reasonable to suppose that the SIMPONS,
after seeing their native governments destroyed, sad theft
kingdoms passing into our hands, would, became we were
alma to makes change, of which it was probable the great
mass of the people in India knew nothing, be stimulated to
say insurrectionary movement. But it might le said that
agitation as it prevailed in England would be excited in
India. Even if the natives did begin to petition that house,
stating that they wanted roads and other matters, he did
not think that any great inconvenience would result from
suck an agitation as that. (Hear, hear.) On the contrary,
he believed that when people were led to take interest in
their own public affairs, so far from creating any dan-
gerous disturbance, their doing so would materially
assist is carrying on the government. If any-
thing world tend to tepee and put • stop to all
physical force agitation, it would be the knowledge that,
whatever their gnevanees, rod or supposed, they had • con-
stitntional remedy in the legislature of this country. (Hear,
hear.) It was said that by delay false lopes would be ex-
cited in ladia. The right hoe. baronet (Sir C. Wood) had
himself admitted that his measure was only provisional, and
abet if it did not work well, it mast be altered. He could
ads land the danger 'nisi from • provisional state of
=; het he meld not emilinstand how that argument
she treed in mem of the government measure, which
was sanduesdly _prallissal. (Haar, bier.) He believed
that the meek that thos patting the gevesamest of India on
its trial wed* be Is ewe all who were employed under it
to work with th thersand sense of seeppinibility, and a
duke to set their beams is order. He now same IP
soma open the messy of the deft his, hie s. It
esalathed may reckless, fa the psephstiof vide all
= air mem which be regarded is WV ohleelisa-
ounmented maws the Imo, the assess
fee saesasegaw the formadas of real% Ike law islimmtp
the miabibithist of a liglides mead! h Wk. and the
of a law manias to sit it a IftellE
Tle=lf them premeds did be -MIMI. say
Bat the the. p? eoliths of the bill sum
able; be Aida amsenewal ef Iss &Mr ter a
Aglaia parka, tingles Om the ilispesal ere
sad the ratans IMINIMIONI aft b11.1.11“11111/16LPIliell
mitring that an Wielism, at on tams sad is all esoneds;
most be to a swath Meat szpaimiatal; yet this did Est
justify the geearamsat in proposing; • ammo whisk mine
of enmity be eland at ea early Fried. It mild have
Ma Wirt to have taken a dud Ms of years, ad to
have said " Bs this India. sessiiritE: er bad, it
shall ben • fair trial." His seams he
anise Ibis paha wak tha is so pest
mamas estimatet ' melt be effigusol le the how
lisa inmedk after the pressed sesies. Amidst the
pest gmeeleas pWiwitheasn sad law piths that wars
soft& the wass of ladle mad sifted My a se-
mien theseaft. Tbe Meliat a mamma of • sans tied
matt be premed this mien bad Mimi M ementrate a
pests absent of &Umlaut as the althea ladle than they
meld Mendes have waived. Mla , he be.
bend thee the g wags lad bees very mob
belem tbs. it maid be ea the renamed
system (Hese; to plass softens ae same
alpinism,' in phase Made was net adWated es gee-
Ruth the public ineeraMs. They gave to sada dinars •
Ina piellsetly thadoenat• te the sunless he bad to
eift kg eansaisusatlybdi palithesp. urrd
win • mas woe thinly eel 5510.110
between thiwr clams mama madisese,
is, he. this biles a patellas' sesibresd egos hi., is mill
Women his Mien. (Bear.) Wheathag Saw the
was him end gam idat • Mamma sesse
eirialrie mallard that of • alert I. a palls ease.
seelm—aellithe the slightest blame to the tadividnil
that he was allowed • large disasselia
la thass":l2llief that plump foe prime
TM Nemo Vso espethat laming m Wil‘w
mantel Millther* 11"4, ft win
ser
the =b'
that the tine*papas seer
theihb leskle ae the MOM prepaid. end ibe
system la opennies, it appeared le him thee the
alma reform prima was absolutely dimeepaillthele
the vitamin with width it was istredeeidi in the Meek
I. the last 15 yams the armon bad easth_sibilthibneed
military aff$110.111011; every ditester bed at his dia
rood 10 such annually, and am and a has
ties of civil egral. Ljpeab_the aggregatevales of whist
was about 4,61 H. (Rm. Mar.) By the wow IMAM. la-
stead OA IWO veil be 18 dirseton ; so lithiber=
age waimi me left tb Ma mad be
suet.lthellsr umber ; and Mend of 10,
Ormasr would have IS military appoiatents
petimam (Hear, civil to ice,swamis whisk filmy
premed ea deal with the esr le ail not kr a mo-
mat desy that the introduces= of the pridliple of emu*
titlon was a very great imprevement. (11seriberA) Na
wee far from toadstools' the plan of the goner meat In
this respect, though be thought, that great amities' dam&
die would be mouldered is earning it eat. First, as the
empatitioa wee entirely ems, be soreheaded that the sp.'
girlwould be memeak Besew same le the
& Me right ben. lama te deal mil=
Mims emenuaent, and that bivalved the aimi-
theallea of a doable or gmerunmet. Whatever
be said
earint the se-= Amble govssamthe hest
never any eehaffile poppuell for the geesement of
laths which did not to • essemia Moat semisla that pia-
dol.. It was proposed te establish a ~,as.,, 'med in
India, not, as be understood, to mew the piths of a
secretary of state, bat to be inrims with the
home government, by whom it w Is sine masons
controlled ; and just in prepsthien as its Ms
were controlled by the hoses gthesamsne would Me
nets= of double government prevail. (Hear, bow.)
He thought that whether there was to be a double or a
giggle government of India, the first thing necessary was
that there should be real responsibility. (Hear, haw.)
Now theinassal of the government was that one-third of
the ma of the Court of Directors should be nomi-
nated by the crown, with permission to have seats in the
legislature. He thought that a most unwise provision, be-
mem It mu impossible in such circumstances that they
Meld not be under the infisence of the :insister of the
dry. Ho was not now asking the house to pledge itself ael
to what was to be the nature and charaeter of the future
rverument of India, but he hod no hi citation in saying that''
If they were about to introduce a reform into the admirals-
Motion of loilia,no reform would be complete;or would des
terve the name of reform, which would leave untouched the
Court of Proprietors. (Hear, bear.) There was a great
deal to be said, and • great deal had been said, in favour of
the double government, but he never beard um against
adduced in defence of the present constitution aim Conet
of Proprietors. They had no responsibility, they had no