The Express.
London, England, 1848-08-18 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, AUGUST 18, 1848,

letter relating to Mr. O'Brien's arrest, which bad be= tee
cleaved from Gen. M•Donald, whose conduct, as well aa
ghee
of the diem and soldiers under his omantend, had, ho wee
h• • to met with the approbation el tlhow=seAler.l
' • hear.) Glaberal le So
at Dairlln;' dated ThetiallbaleAuft. 910.:Ectud
yEr.:f • *tams of lbw elses of the
11. inset dleapesineld at glin rest way In which
• s wee maimpelete DaMl/101114 Met no blow had been
OM they me methlei ep asempleint limiest
" • riMli Jmz.sembber, ,sed ass sow eolioning
ems 7 to nolo a al it. All that I l
ean
them *atomics* that lam told to Mee put a plated to
=dot a railway ver, sad posh= some lawyer in the
Welt
(Laumbter.) General Macdonald does not mem even to
bam ►bean correctly informed of the charge against hint.
meremds
Thelma, may be true, to so far that I may have been jostled un-
willingly smiled such a person in the crowd which were then collect-
ing. But, as to the pistol, I have none, nor have I handled any; end
It is evident that in thee and very likely in the other can, 1 have been
mistaken for another.
The only charge of which °nerd Macdonald had bend,
appeared to have arisen out of the transaction eubsequently
mentioned in his letter. General Macdonald proceeds
to ay:
Captain Maekende went by my order* to the railway Ration, to
regnant that an engine would be immediately rot ready, and to phis
re-
med anything edam that line till after /Mite O'Brien passed with
I authorised Captain Nadinee to use force, if awls should
Lalfound neonsiry, to insure an very important so object ; mad he
informs me that, on reaching the elation, he found an engine with
two carriages attached in the act of starting towards Dublin. Ue de-
sired the engine-man not to go ea till he ordered him. The man
replied, " Ile could receive orders from no one but Mr. Minting "
(who was not there), and was in the act of putting the engine in mo.
Bons theta n Mackenzie desired him to stop, and mid thet I would be
responsible toe all consequences. The man said he hail to go with
the royal mall, and no one dare stop him. Captain Mackenzie imme-
diately pointed a pistol at him, and said, " Move at your peril, and
you area dead roan ;" upon erhioh he came off the engine, and CaaL
leackenele directed the police to prevent his going away, while he ran
to inform me that everything was ready, and in five minute. after
Smith O'Bilen was sale, awl on his way to Dublin with thatmtne
engine, there being none other hero reedy. The coeduct of the Wither
in this emergency I cannot too highly recommend. (" lieu, bear,"
and cheers.) fled he permitted the engine to alert, and the news of
the arrest to spread along the line, many line would have been lam,
and I would hove been required to march with ell my troops to t)ublta
as =escort, meeting oostruction at every point The proof of this
may be Pound in the fact that forty men had been told off to beak
up the railway, but we were too quick for them, awl the
w for on towards Dublin before the certainty of
Kirwan:as
street was known three miles hem hews The only other
ad for which I hold myself reeponsible la that of placingmob the
wintery and pollee here to prevent the feet increasing
from approaching the bridewell where the prthonst wm being
searched and taking refreshment, and having, In my capacity of
Puttee of peace for this county', read the Blot Act, and oommseded
the people to disperse and retire to their houses, which they almost
all did before or immediately on the arrival of troop. front camp to
inform it, so that no word was heard in the streets except the low
toned words of command of the °Mears to their men. 1 beg Is this
note you will do me the entice to make all three circumetancee known
in the proper quarter. I have not time to write in an official ehape,
but you may coesufer every word I Mee said to be we I feel cones
dent my conduct will meet the approbation of all well-thinking per-
sons, and care nothing for the misrepremotetions and thus., of the
ditaflected. C. Ilea," and cheer,.) My oiwolation te. that I am
satiated myself, and I know that I have loved the love of many lime
by the course I pursued." ("Item, hear," and ebeem)
Mr. MAHER was not satisfied with the right bon. ba-
ronet's explanation. He had letters in his posaession from
pe-sons whose veracity he could not doubt, stating that out-
rages had been committed ; and on his return to Ireland he
should on-Minty feel it his duty to make inquiry on the
subject.
Mr. F. MAU LE said that the hon. gentleman wrote him
a letter from Brussels, dated the sth of August, in which be
complained of the conduct of CoL Taylor, commending the
sth Rest., for erecting a camp 30 yards from his house,
within a mile of Thurlea, which be stated was "linee of the
most peaceable places in the county ot Tipperary." (ghter.)
That letter of the hon. gentleman was referred to General
M'Doneld, who req •ested an explanation from Colonel Tay-
lor. On the 11th of August Colonel Taylor wrote this
letter, which he (Mr. F. Mauls) felt bound, in justice to
that gallant officer, to read to the house:
ear, —I have the honour to acknowledge the letter of the Depot
Adjutant-General addressed to you, with its tertoted letter herewith
returned, complaintng of nay having on the 314 ult., forcibly enured,
and encamped on the lawn, thirty yards from the helm of Mr. Maher,
M.P. foe the county Tipperary. In explanation, I beg
teeth to state,
that by a Meade order of the 30th ult , which reached me while
under canvas at the railway station at Thurles, I was directed to mthatow
towards Littleton, detaching a company of the 60th Bides to
place, and to take uti such • potitioe as to enable me to hold Merles,
the following day being "fair day" In that town. I tweed mooed-
ugly to toe aub-inspecter of police, and the demesne of Mt. Maker
was pointed out to me as the mast eligible position. it being situated
one mile from Thurlee, with good water, and commanding two roads
from the mat and mouth. Having personally inspected the position,
I moved my regiment (571 all ranks) Into a grazing field, separated
Rem the lawn by a strong fence awl • belt of trees. I
uthewent fur h
the agent, who, upon my explaining the circumstances hc
I was placed, made no objection whatever to my taking ve-
stment, and moreover effered me personallynocommodation in the
house se well as for the haves in the smiths, the rain heuvily
at the time. The first I declined Ltbe soma I secreted with thank",
assuring him that the house and lawn, NI well aa the plemure
grounds should be particularly guarded, and they were, most etrMtly
lowing
On the 2nd WM we moved to New Birmingham and the fol-
lowing day joined the column under your immediate diem. I trust
I have punt of out that so force was used on my part. I wait
to make an entrance into the field to prevent the carts from
through the gates and beck premises of the house, es well
as to )sure a reedy communicatton with the town ; the opening in
the wall was mode in five minutes, and could be rebuilt in one hour.
It Is perhaps necessary for me to add that the agent must have
misrepresented the entitles of the camp. It is not in the front of
the house, but on the east aide of a tieing ground from the road,
hidden from the house by the belt of trees before-mentioned, the
enclosure being about 50 acne, and the land not apparently very
good, it being emceed with thistles and other weeds.
lie had only to remark that, hon his knowledge of General
M'Donald's character, he believed him incapable of carry'ng
a pistol about with him for hie personal protection, or for
using it in the manner described.
Mr. MAHER said that the statement of Col. Taylor that
the encampment was not upon his lawn was totally false.
Cal. Taylor came to his house, in the absence of his agent,
and pitched a camp on his lawn not thirty yards from
his nouse. When hie agent arrived be asked Colonel
Taylor it he had his (Mr. Maker's) leave to do so,
and he (Colonel Taylor) said he had not, but that he
would pitch his camp where he pleased. He was well ins
formed that wanes of obscenity took place before his very
door, and he, therefore, had just reason to complain. They
went still further, and ook posselaion of his stables; and
when he wrote once to have them cleared and the horses
put out, the officers said they should not do so unless
at the point of the bayonet. He recognised no
such right as the government assumed of billetting
the military upon him in that manner. [The hon. gentle.
man, in order to entitle himself to make these remarks, had
previously mo .ed (pursuant to notice) for copilot of Corres-
pondence between himself and the Secretary at War relative
to the conduct of Gen. bi'Donald and the military under
his command ; and also copies of any correspondence which
may have takin place between the Secretary at War and
Gen. M'Donalrelative to the conduct of Oen. M'Donald
and Col. Taylor, of the 86th. Regt., complained of by Mr.
N. V. Maher.)
SUGAR DUTIES RILL—SUPPLY.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that, instead of taking the third
reading of this hill on Monday, lie would fix it for Tuesday,
at 12 o clock, and that he intended going on with the com-
mittee of supply until it was gone through, and then going
into a committee of ways and means, when his right ton.
friend would make the usual statement.
DERBY WRIT.
Lord J. RHSSELL asked the hon. gentleman the member
for North Warwickshire to postpone his motion on this sub-
ject, as he (Lord J. Rueseli) would have no obj•ction to it
after the raving of the Corrupt Practices at Elections Bill.
Mr. NEW DEG ATE could not consent to itchy the m
Don of which he had given notice any longer, '' that Mr.
speaker do issue his warrant to the eliork of the crown, to
make out a new writ for the electing of two ',urges:ea to
serve in this present p irliament for the borough of Derby in
the room of the Right Hon. E. Street and the lion. E. F. L.
Gower, whose election has been determined to be • id. li
did not see why Derby should bs made an exceptione
He implored thn government to respect their own cone 1.
enemy, and not longer place the constitutional rights of the
electors in doubt.
Mr. SPOONER seconded the motion.
Lord J. RUSSELL said it could not well be supposed be
had any unfair reason fit opposing this writ. But the house
having several times decided that the writ should not issue,
and there being a bill before the house to institute an inquiry
into the borough, it would be afterwards for the house to
determine what course should be taken with regard to the
writ, and he should not then oppose its issuing. lie would
therefore move that this debate should be adjourned till
Thuraday next.
Mr. HU NIS seconded the amendment.
After a discusaion In which Mr. N aWDEOAVII,
BANDES, Mr BAIMIT, Mr. HENLEY, the Soeterroe-Gs-
NEKAL, Sir IL INOLIS. Mr B. PALMIER, Mr. P. WOOD,
and L 4,1 G. Best teen took part,
The house divided—Fee L.-, amendment 86
Aeei.. it 43-42
CORRUPT PRACTICE._ • ELECTIONS BILL.
On the motion for furthr r cur xlerieg the raj ort on this
bill,
Sir H. HALFORD recurred tc a subject which he had
mentioned a foe, days ri.,o co- neer!, with the exercise o. the
patronage in the poet-office xis L#- enter. The sitting mem-
bers for that borough bad bees oi.ebeted on the 31st ot May ;
a mouth afterwards an appointrrezt h•d to be made of a
messenger to convey letters hots: rot Kebworth and Market
Drayton ; and on a memoriai het sent to the postmaster,
he stated that the appointment hen been placed at the dis-
posal of Mr. Gardner, the late member. Notwithstanding,
the appointment was made, as rec4mmended "y the memo•
rialists, hut the individual wee c;:erward, removed, and a
mannamed Newby appointed in bLs place. On inquiry at lie
poet-office, a liter was received u. ter the seal or Lord Csn-
riearde signed by his private te.reetary, stating that Newby
had been eppointed on the recom" eadation of Mr. Gardner.
It turned out that one of Newirea mothers tied voted 11. Mr.
Gardner. Would the noble lore. (....erd J. Rumeill suffer the
next election for Leicester to plate, while this corrupt
party could boast that they has a. bete dispose' the govern-
ment patronage in the post Mime
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the former answer to the
question had b..en given after inn_a.'iry, the result of which
svaa that the person appointed was 4. tope ctable person, and
had nothing to do with p. Beim% is now, however, app ared
that his brother was a freeman of ;he borough. Had Lord
Clanricarde been made aware 'ha- the 'Lethal for Leicever
had been rendered void by the ....Ty of the party alluded
to, ho would probably not have mieught it right t s take the
of Mr. P He had r -- likely not

members seemed to suppers.
Mr. C. LEWIS said that personal property was never
of
rated to the er rate. Stock in was y reign
of kind of of property that was held rateab:ethe
i onln
the reign
of William 111. That decision was not generally acted on,
though is some parishes he believed, particulaely in the meet
of England, stock in trade was made liable to taxation. But
Lord Mansfield decided that stock in trade was not rateable.
Subsequently. by a decision of Lord Kenyon, it was held to
be liable, but it was not generally carried into effect. In
1540 the jiriges of the Court of Queen's Bench decided that
stock in trade was liable to be rated, but it was Pound im-
, practicable to carry tne decision into practice, and it was in
consequence of that the present annual bill was brought in.
He admitted there was some inconvenience in an annual bill,
but he denied that the tithe-owner or the clergy were in-
juriously affected by the present measure. lie admitted that
the rating of the clergy to the gross amount of their income
war a grievance, and ought to be remedied. He should like
to see some measure introduced for that purpose, but there
were gr at practical difficulties in the way.
Mr. NEWDEOATE complained that the whole tendency
of their recent legislation was to give advantage to the
moneyed interest, to the detriment of the owners of real pro-
Mr. BROTHERTON said that he was opposed to a sys-
tem of general taxation in lieu of local taxation. He thought
it would g ve rise to great mischief.
The bill was then read a third time.
RENEWABLE LEASEHOLD CONVERSION (IRE-
The.
house then went into committee on this bill.
On clause 5,
Mr. LAW objected to the power given by the clause to
the Chief Remembrancer of Ireland to convert into free-
hold renewable leasehold lands, held of minor's, lunatics, die.
Mr. NAPIER proposed to substitute the Court of Ex-
chequer for the COie( Remembrancer.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said he would consider the point,
' and introduce words, on bringing up the report, to meet
the hon. gentleman's views, should he on reflection deem
this necessary.
Mr. LAW said he must have a distinct assurance that the
Chief Remembraneer should in this jurisdiction be subject to
the Ceurt of Exchequer.
Ultimately the clause was agreed to, as were clauses 6,7,
and 8.
The rIiAttIMAN then reported progress, and obtained leave
to sit (gain this day.
The holies adjourned at 3 o'clock until 6.
The house resumed at 6 o'clock.
IRELAND.
Mr. N. V. MAHER inquired whether the Secretary of
State for the Home Department had received any informs
tion respecting the misconduct of Oen. M'Donald and the
military under hie command, in reference to outrages
said to have been committed by him and them on the in-
habitants of Tipperary ? Assuming that those allegations
were true, he wished to know, if the outraged individualssought redrew by legal mane, whether the government in-
tended to obstruct their legal rights, by bringing in a bill of

indemnity ?
Sir G. GREY said that her Majesty's government had
received no information of any outrages having been corn-
' witted by Gen. M.Donald or the military under his coin•
mend, on the persons or property of any of the inhabitants
of Tipperary. Ile would read to the house a portion of a

homes might swallow the statemett of the noble kird, but he
meld not do so. (_Laughter.)
Sir C. BURRELL hoped that mos explanation would be
given with reopen to the pamotsge of the Post-office. In
the hormagh which he represented he always deferred to the
wishes of the inhabitants with rthpect to the appointments
to the Poshoffice, without men to the politics of indivi-
duals. Jut on a late oeseenn a ninon who was but little
known In the town had been pop:bind to a situation, as he
b elieved against the wishes of U. robabitants generally.
Mr. I?. DRUMMOND said t. :ad a grievanee, too, of the
same nature. (Hear, hear.) ne was
assnto write • letter
to the Postmaster-General, conies se did act of charity,
but he did net think he had any ...won to complain because
the noble lord attended to the recommendation of the hon.
I Manlier opposite (Mr. Mangle%) it: preference to hie, par-
ecularly as he had no acquaintar_z with Lord Clanricarde.
Mr. MULLINOS said that .n•-.thing had also occurred
in his borough. (Laughter.) cif. individual named Hall
I had been distributor of stamps In tlireniester for lb years,
during the last 10 A which a Mr. 3aillie acted under him ss
agent. Mr. Hall having given ur the situation, Mr. Baillie
applied to him to recommend hire% the situation. lie had
use so,la but he heard with in.-Jena that the office had
bow applaud at the diseoesl of Mr. Newmersh, the
spot for Mr. Powonby, his ....ppstent at the last election.
Mr. TUFNELL said that um were candidates named
ID him for the appointment to wmich the hon. baronet the
Member for Shoreham refe.ted, eatii he wait compelled to
disoblige several political friends the selection of one. lie
siuseld be sorry if that selectioe v:a not in consonance with
the feelings of the inhabitant? If 7,-9 borough. With regard
to those minor appointments, he great difficulty in get-
tied respectable persons to fin Ltm ; and in making a se-
, laden he had Withe into zoneideration the fitness of
1 the individual. regard to toe Me mentioned by the
hon. member for Cirencester, he was not aware that Mr.
Beae had virtually filled the ofs am for some time. But the
bon. gentleman was in error in er •eposing that solicitors were
not qualified to fill the office cf c1..-tributor of stamps. With
regard to the fitness of perecaa, governinent must depend
upon the recommendatiaea of nosing living in the neigh-
bourhood ; but the treuur; wOu-i attend to the representa-
tions of the inhabitants if en unfit eerson were appointed.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said tnat a the hon. gentleman found
such difficulty in finding re:;-..s.;ta..iti persons, he, as whipper-
in on that side of the house, mete ; be happy to tender him
his services, and would underrate to find him respectable
individuals. (" Hear, hear," laughter.)
Sir 11. HALFORD said that complaint in the cave of
Leicester was, that Mr. Gerdner, who was not connected
with the borough or county, shc....eS have the nomination.
After a few words from Mr. the amendments ,
were agreed to.
Clauses enabling the Treasury to make orders for the ex-
pease' of inquiries, the Speaker t appoint an egent or agents
to prosecute, and regulating toe er-noiutreent of commission-
ers in Scotland, were then ureter to.
DIPLOMATIC RELATIRCISONS WITH THE COURT OF
T-
Lord PALMERSTON, ii. r sing to move the second
reading of this bill, said it was is,; his intention to enter into
any historical details, or to intro::: for any length of time on
the attention of the house. In i,lnt of tact, the grounds for
this bill, or rather for deelaricz s tat the law was, were so
plain and simple, and lay so enn.-cly on the surface, that it
was scarcely requisite for him to save rec Nurse to any refined
arguments for the purposee of ,::wing the expediency of
sue" a measure. Doubts, an.? doobts only, existed whether
by the interpretati ex which win to be put on particular
words in ancient acts of parliemsett, it was or was not lawful
fur the sovereign of this country to hold diplomatic inter
course with the court of Rome. lie believed the chief doubt
arose on the construction and interpretation of the word
"communion." In his mind, the only meaning of the
law for preventing the severer ens of this country from
holding communion with the c cart of Rome must have
been to secure tht white_ was a fundamental
principle of the cos
nstitetioo—nsmely, that the sove-
reign of this country must be a protestant, and therefore that
the " communion" contemplther by the act must have been
a spiritual communion, and nee, which, in common and
'thine parlance, meant an ezeheege of communication. But,
he that as it may, it was deemed expedient, as doubts had
arisen, to propose to parliament n measure to remove those
doubts, by declaring it to be lawful to hold diplomatic
intercourse or 0001021111".74130a: between the sovereign
of this country and the a iareiga of the Roman
States. Two question, arose upon this—first, as to
the objections that could us =zed against such a mea-
sure: and, secondly, as to the advantages which would
accrue from it. The only object:on that presented itself to
his mind as being capable of Leif 3 urged against it was that
which was based on the principle to which he had already ad-
verteil—an objection, namely, (tended on the presumption
that to legalise diplomatic interts,ane between the sovereign
of England and the soverierm et the Roman states would
endanger that principle which nouiresi the sovereign to be
of the protestant religion. 11..2 seas at a loss to imagine how
any rational man couid ',wens. that there would be any-
thing in the presence of a Brit.::: minister at Rome, or of a
Roman minister at London, hat could tend to shake
the religious belief of the soaereign of this country.
That was in his opinion too tidioilous and absurd a supp et-
tion to require the slighted summon% to refute it. Diplo-
matic relations were not in ae r-ty connected with matters
of faith. The sovereign of this csontry bad diplomatic rela-
tions with Mohammedan courts, and with courts of every
1 form of belief except with that or:Ack ri presented the Roman
catholic modification of the Christian religion ; but no person
believed that the sovereign was :Only to become a Moham
I maim in consequence of holding diplomatic r lations with
Mohammedan court. V. ell, then, the question was
whether any advantage would as we to this country if diplo-
midi° relations were established with the court of Rome. 1
The mine probasedi lay or
reason
who denied that there
would, because there was no reseon why the Roman state
should form an exception to the ,ieneral rule. That was na-
turally offensive to the state, wl'tch was made an exception
of, and, unless it was founded ez some real and substantial
grounds, it must prove injorioue 'to the interests of this coun-
try. The Roman state,: no doLtit, was not one of the first
class of foreign powers, but, nevertheless, it was by no means
to be deemed inconsiderable. it mas • state with which they
might have, in various cases, political interests to connect
them, and one with which, at ill times, they held commer-
cial intercourse, not to such sn extent as with other state',
but one, however, that was annually increasing. At
present the sovereign of this country could make no
commercial treaty with the suiteof Rome, for the purpose of
affording to their commerce Cease securities which such
treaties gave to their come:ler:a with almost every other
country in Europe. They lied a great interest in a rapid
communication with their West Indian dominions; but if a
railway was made through 1t..1y in connexion with the
Rhine, Germany, and France, which he had no reason to
doubt would sooner or Is.ter nee place, they could not, in
the pretest state of their relatiens with the court of Rome,
conclude any convention for tb, purpose of regulating and
legalising the transit of the mails from India. For these
matins being at a lose to fled any grount.s in the present
state of opinion in Europa artiert the passing of this bill, not
being able to find any conatitzei ,nil objections against it, or
any danger to arise it carried Min a law ; and because on the
other hand, he believed thet the not holding of po-
litical communication with the Boman court was attended
with injury to the commercial and other interests of this
country, he begged leave to propose the second reading of
the bill.
Mr. ANSTEY opposed the bill; and after referriCg at
some length to the tate of the law, as tending to show the
illegality of the bill, concluded by moving that the bill be
rest: a second timt that day six month..
Mr. URQUHART seconded the amendment, contending
that all th. legitimate object. of the English p ople with the
Court of Rome could be obtained far more effectually in the
entire absence of what were called diplomatic relations. He
called upon the ihmse by. its vote on this occasion to refuse
to revolve the Pope in the baneful contamination of
European diplomacy, and bring him down to the mere level
of European eovernments.
Sr, R. INGLIS supported the amendment. For his (Sir
R. Duthie) part, he looked upon the measure as the first
direct step towards the reconciliation of this country, not
simply with the court, but with the church of Rome. The I
noble lord appeared to think that there was nothing reenlist
our law to prevent diplomatic relations with the ourt of
Rome ; but this w a mistake. Pope Gregory XV 1., in a
conversation with Bishop Wieeman—
Mr. ANSI EY,—Bienop Wiseman!
Sir R. INGLIS had no objection to call Dr. Wiseman
Bishop Wiseman—(hear, hear)—all he protested against
was Dr. Wiseman's calling himself, or seeking to be called,
Archbishop of Westminster. However, Pope Gregory XVI.,
at this interview, had distinctly admitted that there did
exist in England a law which precluded any diplomatic tele-
tione with him as the spiritual I ontiff of Rome. The
hon. baronet denounced the measure further, as an
attempt by ex post facto legislation to cover the
illegal and iniquitous interference in the affairs
of Italy, which Lord Minns had been emp eyed
as the agent of. He desired to know from the
noble lord whether there would be any objection to lay on
the table of the house the correspondence between Lord
Clarendon and Lord Grey, upon which the latter had issued
his famous circular, giving to Roman cetholic prelates titles
to which no law entitled them in this country, and also the
correspondence in which Lord Clarendon, through Arch-
bishop Murrav„ officially communicated the statutes for the
new colleges to the Pope ? (Hear, hear.) The hon. baronet
concluded by expressing his determination to vote against
the bill.
Mr. MOORE (who rose at the tame time with Lord J.
Russell) said be would only detain the house from hearing
the notte lord whilst he made an observation on the speech
of the hon. and learned member for Youghal. That hon.
and learned gentleman had described the present diplo-
matic intercourse between Great Britain and the court
of Rome to he a mean and unworthy subterfuge
as well as an evasion of the law; and now that the noble lord
had introduced a bill for the purpose of rendering such an
unworthy and derogatory mode of intercourse no longer ne-
cessary, the hon. and learned memier was one of the fore-
most in that house in coming forward to oppose it. He should
certainly adopt the original views expressed by the hon.
member as to the present mode of communicating with the
court of Rome, and for that reason he should feel it to be
his duty to support the bill now before the house. (Hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the hon. member who had
just sat down had effectually disposed of the whole argu
ments used by the hon. and learned member for Youghal,
and rendered all further observation upon them

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re-commendation of Mr. Gardr.:r. .isi . .. most _ .iy a. . .. _ _._. .... _
been aware that Mr. Gardner ha /teen unseated. He err sary. As the
him hon. bart.
shoul (Sir
endeavour tois;had— answer them
asked-seVeral
Minty never meant to place the r"ifis at the disposal of Mr. questions of he d
Gardner, but had merely conseiiaad to rec. ive his recorn- in the best way he could. His honourable friend
mendation of a ftspectahle ream. If the h oi. member (Sir R. Inglis) was not satisfied with the reasons
opposite meant that the Yostinaste-.General was only to take alleged in favour of the bill, nor yet was he disposed to agree
the recommendation of his tr:!itsl enemies, that would be in the objections taken to it by the hon. and learned member
going rather too far. (Hear.) 1.-...-1 was ontivinced th,t L rd opposite. On that account he had proceeded to detail to the
Clanriearde and the Poetadfles au. oorities had cot token the house the objections which he entertained to the measure ;
recommendation in this ca... 01.:‘ 4: any wish to strengthen ands first he had cited as a reason w
hethe bill should proceed
the psrty setich had been duil-.7 ^- nrinery in I.,icrster. urther the existence of a t prohibiting all inter-
, ' Col. SIB ruottr BAlll that t:, other numbers of that cours. between the sovereign of Great Britain and the toys.