The Express.
London, England, 1851-04-16 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, APRIL 16, 1851.

IMPERIAL PAULI A MENT.
MOUSE OF MIMON*.—TreAnAT, Aran 15.
The IA IL rit tq ttw clair at 10 minute betwav 4
eat°,

%MIT 11 Fl ELD MARKET.
Mr. Sheriff Carden and Mr. Sheriff Hoigkinwin appear:4
at the bar of the I.ou-s.„ and presented in due form the peti• •
Simi which had lita.o ailopt..d by the Ceurt of (:saninan •
Onunril on the previous day, against the Smithfield Market •
Ktmoval Ildl, and praying to be beard by eounul against
ita pre
()i t.,e motion a Si. Jane& I)ccc the petition wa. re-
ferred to the committee on the bill, as were the petitions
presented nn the 21st of February and the Iflthof March,
and tour other• preemteil at a latxr period of the evening by
the hon. liaruna.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
NALTON AND DItIEFIELD JUNCTION R.ITLWAY
HILL; AND SHEFFIELD, ROTHERHAM,
BARNSLEY, WAKEFIELD, HUDDERSFIELD,
AND titIOLE RAILWAY LILL.
These bills were read a third time and passed.
BILLS ItEI'OItTED AND CONSIDERED.
The following bills were reported and considered :
Derby and Ashborne Road Great Northern Railway
A mend meet (No I); Ili:relent, koss, and Gloucester Railway;
Killarney and Valenti* Railway ; Leeds and Think Rail-
way; Lmdon and Blackwell Railway (extension of time
fur the widening, ; North British Railway; North
and South Westcra Junction Railway ; Reading Water-
works ; Ki•irenr. Canal Company ; Scottish Central Rail-
way ; South D. son Midway; South Wales Railway (No.
1) • South Wales Railway (No. 2) ; York. Neweastle, and
Berwick Railway (aliandortment of part of Bi hop Auckland
branch, die.) ; and York, Newcastle, and Berwick It all way
(branch to the West
ÜBLIC Durham RaUSI Nilway de.); Bills.
P BE'SS
NEW WRITS.
On On notion of Mr. lIATTErt, a new writ Was Clatrill
fur in the room of Capt. Dudley Pelham, &waled;
and for the City of Cork, 'meant by the aceeptanee by Mr.
Fagan of the stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds.
THE RAMAN CAT 1101,1 C DOR I.:`4S UPON TILE
NEW HIERARCHY.
Mr. T. DIINCOMISE moved for an addrew for copy of
an whlreet prevented to her Majesty from her Nla:isty.
Moan eath dnc subjc-ts in England, disclaiming any into. n-
tins of triaichina upon the royal prerntrative, in the recent
app/Moment of a Roman catholic hierarchy, with the num-
ber of si4natures attachtsl.—Agreed tn.
EPISe:OPAI. INCOMES.
Sir B. ALL.H id that by an art of parliament the an
bishops and of our church were to make a seps..n-
mai Islam of their incomes. That return was due on the
lot of January, but it hail out been predated. Ile wished
Mwk the rig hon. baronet if there was any probability
—.mid make the return in question.

alone on hi. own responability. The council not haling 'ell) thought they ought to look to the general interests
Teen filled up, he was nut eh le. to get a single vote of sop- and to the history of the colony with respect to which
ply, and had to maintatn the government on credit. At there woos° serious a matter at hone. On looking hack to
the snMC thew there wipv a dangerous war ,in the frontier, the history of the colony they would find that when the
the policy which this country followed with regard to the Dutch were its owners they slid not confine themselves to
native tribes bating utterly failed. In this state of dings the poneesion of tape Town, but extended the limits of the
there were three ptopositioo« placed on the notice patio of colony to a considerable distance, as far indoed os the limits
the boogie. The first proposition woo that mule by hiraelf. of the Fish River In that state we, after our first con-
I It was a proposition for a commission of inquiry into the quest of it, found the colony ; and our officers, General
present pssliey maintained towards the inhabitants of the Dundee in particular, employed all their care and attention
Cape. His object was that they should get rid of s re- 'ln endeavouring le reconeilo the interests of the colonists
spoweibility which they had not the power to diecharge,and with the habita of savages who had no other notion of pro-
, that they should *rind op finally and for ever those eneege- perty than that it was tempting. spoil on which they could
ments, transactions, and agreements into which her AR- seise if it were left unprotected. (Hear.) Alter the second
jesty had entered with the tribes and settlers at the Cape, capture of the colony, in 180.5, three questions became
and that together with the obtaining of representathe in- j still more urgent, and he thought there was a further ex-
stitutions the Cape should take upon itself all financial end tension of the colony in 1811. In 1819, it wan proposed in
1 defensive duties. That Woe the object of the inquiry he I that house that 50,000/. should be voted for the purpose of
proposed, and the mode in which he proposed to (airy it 'sending out emigrants to form this colony, to be settled in
out was by a commis-ion of inquiry on the spot. IL had Graham's Town and the adjacent district. The proposal
an analogy perfect in every respect for taking that course, was very much approved by that house. It was thought
j namely, the committee which had been sent wit in very desirable that persons who were suffering from the
1827 to the same spot when Sir Charles Sonerset inadequacy of their means in this country should be able to
I was Governor of the Cape, and Lord Bathurst, Colonial se- live in coninwt in scalene- so healthy seethe Cape of Good Hope;
eretary. The next proposition on the paper was that of the and, with wareely any debate, thchouse adopted the proposal.
noble lord at the head of the government. The noire lord The district to which they went became in process of time
1 was of opinion with him, that wme inquiry was necessary, very flourishing, and the English and Dutchcolouistsbecatne
and immediately necessary. The opinion of the noise lord possessed of a considerable amount of property. In 1848
was that the executive government had come to s dead the export of wool was about 2,250,000 lbs., the value of
lock, and he came to the house for advice and tuseistonce as which was about 143,0001. At the same period the annual
to how he should proceed. But the proposition of the agricultural prucluee of the eastern districts was valued at
noble lord woe different from his, for the proposition of the 269,000/,, the live stock was estimated at 2,297,0011., and the
noble lord was not to condemn the present policy, but to fixed property at 2,136,0001., making the value of the pro-
remove obstructions out of the way or the present policy.. perty of those who had settled in the eastern districts
The house would observe that there was a great di ference upwards of 4,000,0001. But the persons thus Fettled, a
igithe two propositions, for when the noble lord tax out of great portion of whom had been settled by the direct inter-
his hands the motion fur a select committee he left out the motion of the government, and with the unqualified appro-
words " fora definitive adjustment,' thereby showingthat the bation of that louse, complained from time to time of depre-
inquiry was to he simply an inquiry into the relnions he- &diens which were made upon their cattle. They even de-
tweet the contendiug tribes on the frontier and this coon- dared that their habitation. and their lives were not safe :
try, for the purpose of discovering the cause of the present that the Kaffir tribes made continual incursions on their
discontent, irritation, and disturbanea, with a view to set lane, that their farm-houses were burnt and destroyed,
on foot the original policy we maintaiaed there. The hon. their cattle carried away, and the members of their
gentleman the Under-Secretary fur the Colonies stated the families exposed to outrage. Now, it would he
other night that the colonies must be kept by the observed, that not merely the governor of the
maintenance of the present military force. But a grave colony, but the British nation and the British go•
responsibility would rest southern if they entered on such a ice:uncut could not be indifferent to such complaints
system of policy, without having the means of effectually as these. (Hear, hear.) Having /sanctioned such an emi-
discharging that responsibility. The noises lord now wished gration they were bound to seek a remedy. The hon. cen-
ter a committee of inquiry, with a view of carrying on the tleman must allow him to say that a quseition of that kind
military system. The object of the inquire would be entirely was not to he decided by blaming the officer who happened
and completely lost before the labours of the coin to be actually in the ailininistration of the government
mittee had terminated. (Hear, hear.) The next (hear, hear)—or by s.tying that Sir Harry Smith. a man
proposition on the paper was the propoeitien of tile who had distinguished himself in the military 'revive, and
hon. member for Southwark (Sir W Molesworth) whole• at quirenieuts were inferior to those of but few men,
which was that there should he no inquiry on the part of had done wrong. Varion. governor., Lord Charles Somers
this country, because the hon. baronet doubtless thought set, Sir Benjamin D'Urban, Sir Peregrine Maitland, Sir
that if there was inquiry, such inquire would vest Henry Pottinger, unit Sir Harry Smith had all acconling
upon this country the responsibility as to the future to their different views proemeled to find a remedy for
•
lich he wished very serious, palpable, and extensive mischief. One of

gaud to the question of the hon. gentle3l32, in reference to
no, ming the various cathedrals. he (Lori J. Russell) would
consider if anything farther could be done. (Hear, hear.)
ADDItEsSES TO THY CLGOWN•
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE wish•al to know rn,m this noble
ldrd at the head of her Majaety's got eminent whath.r
it
we. his intention to renew hiesnotios to the present uernon
on the subject of addresses to the crown ? The subject
was one of great importance, as might he remembered from
what occurred in the past year, when the collective wisdoni
dike house was taken to task by the Postmaster-General.
lie (Mr. Dune,nulle) hoped the noble lord would renew the
'notion. (hear, hear.)
Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that lie would
consider of the most fitting form in which to introduce it.
Mr. SPOON ER was of opinion that the duties in the
Post-office on Sundays could he suspended without any I
treat inconvenience resulting if the means were taken to
carry into effect the result of the eddress to the crown
moved for in that house last session on the subject.
NOTICES OF MOTION—ASSIZES EXPENSES.
Sir G. GREY stated, in reply to Mr. Aglionhy, that a bill
on this subject, introduced by Lord Campbell, in the House 1
' of Lords, was then under consideration of a select committee
of that house, which bill, he thought, contained some pro-
vision to the abet referred to by the hon. gentleman.
MALT TAX.
Mr. CIIRISTOPIIER, on behalf of the lion. member for
the North Riding (Mr. Caylcy), gave notice that no Thurs-
day, the Bth of May, he would move Cie repeal of the malt- I
La.
SUPPLY OF WATER. TO TILE METROPOLIS.
Sir G. GREY gave notice that on Tuesday, the 29th of
April, he would introduce a bill for the better supply of
water to the metropolis.
PARLIAMENTARY REFORM.
Mr. IIUME gave notice that he would, on Tuesday,
the 19th May, rt new his motion for a re form in parliament.
LOCAL POOR'S RATE.
Mr. ROEBUCK, on behalf of the hon. member for
Dorsetshire, gave notice that he would, on Tuesday, the Gth
Ma, call the attention of the house to the subject of
local poor's rate.
CEYLON.
Mr. DAILLIE postponed his motion in reference to the
occurrences that of late tool place in that island to Thurs-
day, the Bth May.
EAST INDIA COMPANY.
Mr. BANKLS gave notice that he would move for the
production .if all the correspondence that had taken place
relative to the claims of the East India Company on Tues-
day, the Gth May.
HOME-MADE SPIRITS IN BOND.
Lord NAAS, that on Ten slay, the Gth May, he would
muee for a col:amity e of the whole boom., with Is View to
consider the mode of levying duty un home-matte spirits,
tes at present practised.
CAI'ITAL PUNISHMENT.
Mr. EWART, that on the 29th April, he would move,
• .t., loon. with respect to capital

tha,t thior hbVhopv yr--
Sir G. DR KT ttrid h , would inquire into the subject.
THE MILITARY KNIGHTS OF WINDSOR.
colteed SA LWEY begged to ask the right hon. Is tronet
wheth, r the late Anon, y.lito tonal, Sir Frederit k Polito k
sod the late Silicitnr-General, Sir W. Follett, Ks, lb. it
opinion on the ca.e rod elaimr or the Military Knights of
Window; and ulietle•r, in raw such in • *on yid. given,
thole wo, :my of by the governnii nt to Iny vtich opt.
nine, or a copy of it, on the tal•It• of the Nolo,. with the
palvd i
~11..r1th.:•11t., and letter. ridding thereto in the Dom,
Ocoee and n Lie. State Paper Who. tt

tlut the mithrotionv of the law with rtypect to capitr
punWtment, which have been Effected M this country, be
extended to the colonies. Alm, that, early alter Eiger,
he 'Mould mote the total repeal of the punithuicat of
death.
ST. ALBANS ELECTION.
Mr. E. ELLICE. that ,ni an tarty day he would move for
the appointment of a eommit..ion to inquire into the pro.
evediur at the late election for St. Allvinv.
EALKIICK DISTRICT OF
Mr. COIIDEN, as an Amendment on the previouv ma-
', that he would mov, the rommit.ion be alvo required

city
with regard to the colony—a responsibility wl to wise._
to leave to the colony itself. Ile did not wave with the
hon. baronet in that clew. Ile though: it wadd he cruel
to cast the whole responsibility on the colony itself. But
he could not deny that his proposition was easy, simple, and
just, and if his own proposition were nut cameo, he should
certainly prefer it to the proposition of the noble lord.
(Ileac, hear.) It appeared to hint that they were hound to
wind up and settle what they had already disturbed hefinre
they cast on the coloniste the tusk of initiatimt a nsw
Ile would now proceed to state the circuiustanece which
renderell inquiry necessary, and nutlered the gi,erninent
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the observations which were made was that the fruitier of
the Fish River had been very ill chosen ; the boundary
being surrounded on either side by thickets, so that the
savage tribe. could approach and make their ineur+ions un-
perceived. The bad choice of lsomdary was itself one
great cause of the mischief nutf,red by the colonists; in
1419 the Monetary was extended further to the east.
tinder the ancient system of the Dutch there had
been a regular organkitioa for the defence of the colonist+
against incursions made for the purpose of stealing cattle ;
this was termed the commando —a system of considerable
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Si fo. 1111EY .341 that whim an opinion w 34Otnitch hr tilt Bun, . . ... . . . bet one crhainly 1. ~,, to grea.
private guidance of the government, it was not the practice to inn-anis:de the proceedings at the late eleztion fur the of the Cape a matter of such perplexity to the go- local violence :red one,
to prattle,: such opinion; and he thi•rebee could Falkirk District of Burghs. vernment of this country. One main cause was the abuse and to the imputation of violence. (Heir, hear.)
liinfot ill qui A
not lay tho 04,4
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Mr. W. J. FOX, that on Thursday, the rill of May, he which prevented the native trim's from being civi-
aught state ii, gen, il torus that it was certainly red fi-department he SaW a magistrate who had been long on the
youratde to eh, claims of the military knights Ibe roes. would renew his motion iu reference, to the subject of Used or subjugated, and stood in the way of the frontier. The system as described by that gentleman was
bon elepthelesl entirely upon the ethstruetion of certain d•,_ education.
pnwperity of the colonists. (Hear, hear.) The other cause certainly not one which the house or the country would
.
cements, and the opinion was adveree to the knights. 'REDUCTION OF ARMAMENT; S. was that the system of representative government whirl approve ; for if, on the one hand, there were frequently
Col s 11.WEY gase notice tied he should take un rally Mr. COBDEN, on an early day, to mere that an hum- hail been so long promised to the. colonist. was so long 41. - incurious of a barbarous nature, in which farm-houses
appal lenity after Easter of noising that a *Oct' committee the address lie presented to her Majesty, praying that she bayed and kept from then,. These were the two meina ire burnt, and all the cattle carried away, on
he uppoiot• il to inquire into the• claims of the military will direct the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to causes of the failure of their polio, at the Cape. lle hoped the other hand the Doers and farmers were often
knights, a, set forth in their two plitions of the 7th of enter into communicatein with the government of France, that her Majesty's government would not permit
.their in. induced to lire on all they met, destroying with-
August, 1816, and the 23rd of I ebricary, 1817; and as fur. awl undianour to prevent in future that rivalry of warlike tentions in giving a representative system to the Cape to be out justice, and without any observance of no
Orr oat forth in a prlition dated the 211th of April, 1819, bre m
y preparations in is Wof p t
are which has heretofore wen thwarted by their offieiods there. The government hail laws which military men were an careful to respect, the
arsenal electurs and ratepayer. of Window. the avowed policy of the two natant.; and to promote, if not laid on the table the paper* which lie moved natives whom they found in the territory, and ii ithout being
THE ARMY Lis'''. p oible, a mutual naluetion a armaments. for on the subject of the delay in carrying into very careful to ascertain whether or not they were parties
e
Col. CHATTEICION lagged to ask the Secretary nt CANADA.--THE WELLAND CANAL. effect the representative institutions which hail Wen who had joined in incursions. It was, he supposed, the
War if there was any reason why the name+ of officers who Mr. T. DI: NCOMBE wished to know from the hon. promised to the Cape, and the only information knowledge of this abuse which in llt:13 led Lord Stanley to
had screed ,it Waterloo, tool hail received decorations mottlenaan, the Under-Secretary fur the Colonic., if it were which he could find on the subject was in a publication of disallow the commando. lie agreed with the hon. gentle-
in cono-quent. , but 14 ho had eine• n.fired, othonlol not b. true, as he had been in the American newspaper., that the the leading article's which appeared in a goon-onion,' paper man that it was natural for the colonists to say to the go-
birth 41 an the Army List as well as those who had **tired Canadian goserianitit intended to thee the M elland Canal called the Monitor, which was published by the govern. vernment, i I, you do not approve of our manner of defend-
in (In Peninsula against Aineriean re.4.+4 ?
mint at Cape 'Town. In that publication he found it Maid: ing ourselves—if you ilo not think thatinir mode oifresenting
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Mr. E. SIAI: LE re dud, that if the gallant colonel hall Mr. HAWES said in reply, that no adrieeS Mid been re. hini.,, ,h...,,1ce1in. or the . den,. n.. 4 het. Linty tee.. to,„1 ..„. these attacks ieeonsiatent!wi,thhuinunity and justice,lo.thet
oh. .11,,,,a”. topnmn is growing dally as. ...go. perwri• a ioryoe,,,, native tribes, then take can. that you give us un emu n
given him notice of his question he would have ben pre. mired on the matter. . .
.. .
panel It. answer it. hut lie would inquire into the matter. VAN IM FMEN Si LAND. that we welly no means in a prince tl' tWO ei one houses Hut defence at your own cost. 'fake one system or the other.
low, if th. whew he teasel, we mu t not talk of Ono ,n.. (Inc If you thia the maintenanee of an army oat the !nattier is
taptaM 11. VYSE Innonal haw to ask the Seer. Wry :ft Sir W. MOLE.SWowr 11 eahl that he would on the 14th
;Romp; and okterroWntatip muet Sc talon, act not t
pis A temp, too at a drain on the inoperial resources, allow us to
War upon what principle of juftier the Std. tai diem Was of Mac, move the preesaitatiom of an liumlfw address 81
.her
vary return tome Norm of governmeis in tali-via. • aer mar, am fram.• our own system in the most vigalrolle and effective
deducted from rAtAlry fottliiis' pay for the. keep of their Majesty, praying for the abolition of transportatioth to Aan oseeotiveno.ca, awl tegtstotive powers. This, wit this only win
berms, which they Well' Obliged to keep eselissively fOr the Diemen's hand. saw the . cn..esnibote iin cameda in the yearn :ri 9 and aria, front way, and let ua put that system into operation without re-
public sure ice, tad 10 slit/West that if the Aid. per diem as ST. .SI.I3ANS ELECTION COMMITTEE, Wing transacted here. This watt ne joa•e to Eon isit toyd ~ latch preach for interference on your part—without saying that it
interests and so Seem. ttiontot soil Samos This, in a word, aid as nut consistent with your notion of justice to the native
Intel she's oat. wen at Ans or :Pa. a quarter, it ougl.t in Cpou the neuter of the day for reeuminat the adjourned . , • . . . ' ~ , , .
loser. nmo twee loom nowass eammeowo mina to otivo Pi. tribes ; hut, on the other hand, if you complain of that see-
Judie. to he reduced 010. u they wen:. so. now, t ft.. is r debate on the motion our the discharge of Henry Edwards, sperity, it peat-fatal airworthy to all. tem a+ a source of injustice, then give us a defence which
quarter f Who/ had been committed to the tuatudy of the Seri:taut-at-
Mr. F. M.\C LE could out localt a+ to the prinrildc of Arms he his conduit before the st, Allsans Election Com- It seemea, therefore, that the intentions of the govern-and do will be sufficient,
. . ythe officials llthe ape ,e
meat wive set at rest b t C - • but h it involee..- (Hear. hear.) He could not hut allow that
judo.. ow whole the eh age was mole, but that 1,, win, li motto', it was agreed, for the noire c°"'"?"1 dil"" a hoped that they would not allow their own enlightened I
the boo, awl gallant officer lied alluded had wasted fur 40 the questow, that the original motion mid the amendment this statement of the settlers, whether English or Dutch,
views of policy to be set at nought in this way. Ile be- had iii it a grist deal of fore,
es 60 years, should lie svithdrunn, fool Lewd that the danger to their policy ;with. from a system of I on-audio system having been disalloitaalr', iii:18.n.7.3 11Sirle Beeml'jnai:
MISCELLANE WS EsTimATEs. Mr. AOLION BY presented :1 fissh petition from the vacillation, and not from a system of enermehment min D'erlien, being governor o• f the colony, re'ported that
11, answer to Mr. Seolo.it:l4, rany, and moved that Ile nor Edwards, Wein!: Solhollitteil When the honourable gentleman (Mn. Baur+) grave a 10 WO Kafir. hail invaded the eastern districts, de-
ll.. t•HA N C 13.1.011 of the EXC II EWER said that iimodito the mercy of the hon.. In. called to the bar, re. sketch the other e;ienin of their policy, he omitted .tt:o)...d. a groat niimla:r of farmhouses, and tnr;cal a
Ron. estimate. would not he proceeded with an thy week primanded by the Speaker. and discharged on payment of that interval in which Sirg Andrjes stogkenstrom lanolin,- flourishing poultice into a waste. Sir Benjamin D Urban
immediately after the reeve. hie has.
EMIGRATION. Sir I:. TII ESIGER al.-m.41 that Mr. Edward. load now tiled the government for 111 years, with a longer duration . adopted military 111e110144res or groat envoi and filth ,li he
of prim. than sea. ever kneown at the Cape Plow, when' theie ' he had 0 ly a sushi regular norevat his comonand, hie efforts,
On Ow motion tot Mr. Seiorr, Maras were iinknell, vain- shirteel In, gnaned, and. linually uckniowhalging that hie were generally quimmenitial •
perhals iddisturhanee. Let the di t• 1 with his known i bility were attended with sue-
toting the rimier. dosn from the United KWorlosn, hetet.* n original petition was ontirela (Alec, appearift in the Latitude
c loom observe' moaner in which Sir Harry Smith carried ye:7 '1( lie comitaando systilan hissing been abolished, they
the year 1816 anal In it), jooluOre, with (tee 'Arum.. and la( a Nupi)liant, attaining. inflinetly, tho 4 he woo guilty on
out Week/June scheme. The Under Secretary for the Colo- found that they lad to encounter the cost of the new
venous 4lrtsil. indolent thereto. We 1.0414111 Ct with which he had Ito n charged—a ;grows and flies said it WA. UM fair to attack an absent man, rope- system of defew..e. From a despatch of Lord filenelg it
S run: OF K 11.1817811 .aN I) OTHER UN lONS. sennitilous attempt. w bleb had Ikea too stleteedlll, to, Ob. ~, its:
as
Ily an absent governor. appeared that the ordinary charge of the military defence of
Sir 1.. GREY haling noised that the Lou.'. at its rising, street the four.. °fluency. If the house counted to the
&Would aolwurn till Monday. the 'Path inseam, prayer of the pctition, it would hold out an encouragement Mr. HAWES—During war. the colony during Dal was 96,000/., the extraordiii..,4o7 ex-
Mr MONNE 1.1. drew attention to the nsortodity in the to other.. And he emend-red it his duty to move, as an Mr. ADDERLEV hoped then, that Sir Harry Smith peuditure 1-31,01.10 f., making a total charge of 219,7! . for
ft 'note mid I:modem., U • ~ in do- latter of which, in ounetoloncoot to the motion. that Henry Edwards Ise would be recalled. (Ilear, hear.) Lord Torrineton had that year. The (-etiolated charge of the military chest during
two wee 1.. there hOl been 2kt deaths not of f(.MBI prome committed to Newnan.. justly observed that whether his Own eOlllll.lCt was reprelien. !2h.o,l3.oealr&e.taillitogdidthneotllkisitio,Nvltitreh'aht,
t1h8:1„7, was :,,,,nyt
ream to
..., prosonon unesampled, he. 4.4id0 in the history of eh,. 'The AT fOItNEY-ti EN ERA L quite concurred with Sir sible or not, when a committee was appointed to
MOW.- notittafoor. 4.1 this country. Freeleriek : and Mn. Aerlionby not pressing his motion, the inothire into it he ought to hare been recalled. accuse the government of that day of extravagance, but it
Lord J. Itt:NAEI.I. maid, esery M 4,111. that could la amendment was attn. ol to a. it!. eon. The principle itisolvest in that ruse was applicable here. On must be admitted that this was a very considerable expiate.
adolsid to remedy this state of things heedlas it tarn Mr. IS.SNK ES wished to know' from the noble lonl at the lii. arrival in the colony. Sic shim Smith, ta,„atyi h . tw, In a dispatch, from Sir Benjamin Bl:rtent it was acted
by the noun t i ttt owes. who 11.0.1 fesertained that sliffseient head a the government whether it a.,. the intention a the false analogy of India, took a Map Of the colony, anti laid that before the Kaffir war 'organ. between the 2lst of De-
duet wan provill. II for thi• thready. of the union.; but he government 10 offer uuiy reward B.r the' apprehension of the down for himself a gigantic scheme of operations. He find camber and the Ist of January. the Kaffirs murdered even-
t!** sorry to sly that• from the cooolition of the person. pin 6.. ~,,,k in 4 whom tai' !Irak. r's warrant had been issued. called the chief+ together, and told them that he Was abOut, noun they could buil, burnt I.al farm houses, carried off
who miens' the wurkhonws, great mortality moult sod la. Ile wish, ,1 also to state- that be intended to move as an to assume is new frontier f and, when seine of his more eau- about 401.1 fano twos, 1,000 head of cattle, 150 sheep and
rrei
y„,l remios,4 him of goats, and left Albany and Se iii n desert. Ile thought
vrated. em nuiluivot to the mono.' 80r a e 0111116.4011 which the hon, now adviser. monstratial with him,
BLICATIONS OF Tim (IN m ITT EE OF COCN- gentlemsn Kase motif e that he would bring forward after previous treaties and of Sir Henry Pottinger.a promiws, his this would show the house that the evils with which they now
CIL ON 1: 1)1•1•.‘T ic.v. ow reefs., that the 4...tundethin he eolllpoWol of member. of answer was " I haw a plan of my owl," Ile then pro- had to deal were neither new in themselves, nor to be wet by
lama MA110:11. having called attention to the publitation the• house who should he- sworn dila:set-4,1s eft that par- resealed, it, the presence of the ehiela, to take possession of declaring that what had been done Witt wrong, and that
at the Nations/ imminent' srliool.bneks, which wasconeidend titular 'evasion. the territory ; he placed hie thot on the neck of one chief, some other systent must be at once adopted. Sir Benjamin
to he AO 1111.111 e interferenee with pristate smaipttitsen. o Mr. E. ELLICE recapitulated the Pnwerdinas which had he threatens,' another, and he proceeded to act on a new ITUrban carried his hostilities far into the. country of the
gr.. same to lb'publething trade. and an c'ilwrial gel. toaa' Ulna Place Mime He eommittve. Thr (*.nominee hail been treaty, the advantages of which were all on one aide. Kolar', and evert went beyond the Eel, und severely
to many deserving men who hail Poolnrsil by their ow', adjourning the caw Wilco% a fortnight and three weeks Ile marked out Ins new territories partly iota two punished those chiefs who hail either led or had eneourrag,ed
means publiiatiore for the uee ..f ache, fur the purpose of get:now witnesses, but at the end of that lotovinees, and earth' into two commissiunerehips, and it the Kaffir tribes. But he taco said that if the government
food .1. KU:est:LI...IW the slahtert was One which cam, time they a ..n: ate far elf as ever. Stone of the winnows was a military conimissionenthip which distinguished the wished to have greater security in future A mould be ne-
Im.p sic unolo.r the coiowderation of the committer of privy foe ~h„,, ~,,,,,,,,,,,m. the 4- ttttt Mater had been adjourned new territory. At the end of 1819 he reported to Lord cessary to extend the frontier beyond the Keiskania to the
coune il on education : and immediately on noising et mod whom had been charged with bribery were produced, Grey that MS new efimmissionerthips seem in a perfectly Kuno. Sir Harry Smith proposed this extension as. long
letter of Mesas lomerman. he harl asked the iiri ',Went but when cgg.ig,4 be committee, the them. Dermas aftiftlictory state, and it was not tilt October last year that ago as 11..13 as a means of Riving greater security to
up the "mind. wheinscr the rommiltec should me..t, to said they were not bribed. There were three whow,yea he reported the existence of what he tertued restlessness in the Albany amp Somerset districts, which, It should always
allow him to tiring the subject under their emedobiution. will wanting, hut the committee dianot think it their how. hatfaria, He alleged, as the eanSes of this redlconese, be remembered, were fairly entitled to protection. The
It was 'nought under their consideration ; and berm:lusted nes. that the ease should be suspended over the heads of starvation of the chief., and the influence of wizards. cabinet of that day took the matter into very serious cowl-
that all time ro
e following eOrwl.OWlehee would tahe 1.1.0‘. he" the Parties during the rue'... and for an indefinite period. What were his rernettles fur these two evils? As to the deration. The authority of Sir Benjamin !Fireball stood
toren the we.wtary 44 ile.d committee, who tonal!). roar- fleet Was a 111.1'isi,01 which the COMMittee lout come to starvathou, he propowsl to depose some of the chief. 101 d vein. high; the military ability which he had shoats, and
simoded on subarwa rotineeted with edueation, and the without the .hahte.t doubt of its propriety ; and having to peuthou others; :of to the wizards or prophets he said he the tßeeeliS whit:1111ml attended his operations, induced them
hook/tellers now-erned. The arrangement agreed to by the now to that deseision, thee called on the petitioners could throw them away with ridicule. 'ln depose the chief to give great weight to his repmeentations, 01., the other
ronsinitue of Privy council woe, that it was d.wirahk not min,' to say if 11, dosssl la., ~s,, 11, said he did. A was impossible ; he Was just as much a chief ift prison hand, it was stated in this country, and with ;twit elfeet as
to publish any books liens. but to, treat with iliffereat pub- conversation then commenced, which he now believed he a+ out of prison ; while to porion a rebel, was regarded the public mind, that the native tribes had been
Balers, in deferent part. of tlw country, with respect to was wrung in pennitting, for he thought he should have to secure nut his allegiance but his contempt. treated with injustice, that the ineursions of the Kaffirs
Behead hoo k.. in wair that they might b. enabled 8. afford ordered the nom to be cleared when COUllsel had Stated It would be better to shoot a prophet, as Word had in fact been provoked, that the I3owpeatie had tiwm-
thse hoot, ii• rheaply as possible to the echoed. applying that hie ease wit closed. A conversation, however, did Torritigtun did, than to pursue the course which he had .4.lves been the cause of the great outrages which hail beet
for them. Thecolmuntee had owns'. wt.d with a gre.t hale pla,., but no ui,jection of a forma nature was made, iit,:tiontat. lit the Isi,tory or the world he had never met committed, and that a new system ought to he adopted—
many different putolislocos; and the result was that the- pub- and in waking that statement he believed he would be fully wroth an instance in whim a national superstition had Wen a system, in short, of conciliation and humanity toy:arta the
lie items whirls they ol.tann-41 were obtained with their borne out by hi. colleague-4nm the euturnittor. (hear.)) _ put down by ridicule. (11e.tr, hear.) When Sir Harry IlatlreS. Lord Wends, with the consent of parliament, nt
consent. Among other pioete with whom they had eon- The ttttt non fur the committal of Mr. Edwards to New- Smith attempted to weave the person of Swahili, he Wood length ease direction.. that the new provinces which Sir
IM.p.nottl were the romnitoionereef education in Inland; gate was then agreed to. the whole province opposed to himself ; the governor, in B. IYUrbatt had taken possession of, should he organised ;
end he thought the noble lord would hardly rigid the err. Mr. AG LION BY said that there were threz other men fact, became a prisOner among hew uwu subjects. It was as- that recourse should be had hi the boater frontier, and that
rangenie•nts that had Wan eutfired into with respest against whom warrant+ had been booed. There wasa tonishing how monk the governor was deceived. Yet laird inetead of TUbiVeting certain district, and tribes, treaties
to schema books in that (scatty; for thew )übli- fourth prom al.O. WORM liar Ward, hot he was in a air. Grey would receive information from no other quarter. Ile should be made with the Kaffir chiefs, and tloat noose treaties
cations had been very 'Peru!. awl bail tenekd very front position. aa•liat he wiled to know wa., whether (Mr. Adelerle,y) saw the other day a gentleman front the should be relied on as a means of preserving the peace of''
ninth to ihM,ro,4* the ammeter of the hooks in use there. it would wo he wiser, and wore proper, to olitcharue the colony, who told him that he many mouths ago himself sent the (ohmic+. Sir George Napier, not long after, went to
Thc committee of e-otuneil on olucationelkl ton etrosielerthat warrant against these three men? (" No. net-) If the a warning to Sir Harry Smith. Sir Haley sent fur hint, Kodfraria to carry those treaties into eftliet, and Sir A.
by thie arrangemeod they had given any advantage to than warrant. routMued to rua against them, thew men would and inquired of him chat it was, and when he had been Stoekenstroin, a man of considerable tdent and influence
uouirniowithers. With regard to Great Brittle they had ma stilt keep out of th, way; hut if the warrants were with- laureled, he said, " I nilderttund them' things better than among the Dutch and also the natives, was upiwinted to '
published any sulk.. nor had any wrens been mule eon drawn, and a bill of iteldnnity given to theth, they might you ; meld your Own business." Could a teresentative earry out the transaction and to conciliate, as far as pos.
copyriglity There vs the whole queenion rendved itself antiwar to give eaidenee before the commiasiun, and so fur- government have been thus deceived? (Deur, hear.) elide, the savage trihes. There were from that period,
law the, whether they had Kir as any undue aolimunte to dui the rude effluence. I Even in his wry last letter Sir Harry Smith stated to Lord fur the successes of Sir 8.8 Uthan had been striking and
the vomMeMiiiiwrs of edaeatioll in Inland ; and on this sir (1. cLEstk said it was quite impartible that the , Grey that he still reflected with pleasure on, the remain- remarkable. continual complaints of the renewal of
?Mot hc must be allowed to look into the question before him., would agree to the Stuntestion of the hon. gentleman. ' ing fidelity` of one or two chiefs. lie believed the whole cattle stealing. and of incursions supposed to be made with
goring 4 flarth,.r anewer.
(Hear, hear.) The house could :user consent that wit- rolouy was wearied with the trial of SUereseiVe systems. the connivance of the chiefs, but constantly disavowed by '
Sir R. INGLIS sail that the governnwoft 1,.,, ~reed co nee." alto had abwoleWd shoold ta• let Ott' is this way.. The great fault of the system pursued with respect to the them. Much lossof property was the consequence, awl the .
tzars too all the prineitolee of tree trade. (Naar. hear) Ile would suggest that the house should, I native tribes was this, that it was neither one thing nor the local government was put to considerable Cl ',thee in rue
hit HUME sotiChe waa gratified b' find that the right after the mires., call on the serjenntsat• Arms to know from other, neither the strong ew wive system which would sub wring the stolen ismds. Sir George Napier himself went
loot Imronet who bad last ftooken was WOW in the ranks of him what steps had been taken to serve the Warrant.; mud lupins our the humane system which would conciliate. to the frontier more than once to See the chiefs, in order to
We for trath'es. (Cheers and laughter.) The right hon. (lieu that the house simuld address her Majesty to aler a i Sir Harry Smith had Edith between two systems. He had oblige them toty more attention to treoities to which them- '
baronet saw the mote in hie neighhoue . eye, hut forgot I reward liar the apprehension of the parties. (Hear.) I destroyed the authority of the chiefs, with the idea that he selves had been parties. However, it was fill fly found that
Owl noire WAS a 'Warn in hie own. Ile forget that a ma- I Lord J. RC "SELL said he agreed in what had been said , could place himself iu their position, and in that way intro. that system, no more than the preetoling, ptheured pima-
*op.!, in the polobeation of Ifibles was moot unjustly main- :by the right hon. Kinnear-M. The answer which he was duce British laws and instautioris. Calling hnessell the neat peace for the eOlOny, bemuse in 1841-6, during the '
too" lo 14.1w1f of the two Whieee,ith".• !..11,14011ed hY a I going to Inn: to the flue-anion of the hon. gentleman (Mr. ' father of the tribes, he had required them to give up their time of Sir P. Alaitland, there arose a fresh war, which
patent from the roan to a printer in ,hie cour.try. He Wake.) non that he dill not think it would be according old customs—suet), fur example, as pulygamy—and had appeared more extensive and disastrous than any that
(31r Hume) hoped W have the right hon. baronet's aupport Ito precedent, or fair fur the cream it it were, without any tried to introduce British customs in their stead. His sys. had pre Ceded it. Sir P. Maitland described the
when ha brought un his motion ma the subject of the Bible , notice at the matter being taken hY that Manse, to offer a tem, if fairly carried out, would be effective, for it was • circumstance: of that War, and from the parlia- '
monopoly.. Heave) reward; but, if after the' nee's. the parties were not in system of extermination ; but he knew that this country mentary papers of the time would be found the
Sir K. INGLIS, in soplanation• denied that he was • ' custody. then the house might addressthe crown to otter a was too humane to let him carry out such a system to its trivial cireumstancte which led to, and the more serious
ftee•triedrr. (Laughter.) Ile had never pretended that reasorol. (Hear, hear.) legitimate results. There was another system which ones that afterward, aggravated the consequences .if that -
there should be • monopoly in the printing of wheel- , K AIFRABIA. hail been tried elsewhere--it was that of re. war. It appeared that in the first instance the Kitties in- '
books; on the contrary, he tiail protested asmonat it. , •1: he eI'EAKER basing called ou Mr. Adflerley to pro. cognising the nationality of the native tribes, terfered, not on account of any incursion made into their
FREE OPENING OF SE. PAUL'S. fte. cec;:ilivviiiniuliciaxrawfotioNu on the sub or Kati/Aria,
Mr. II 1.• II E. basing wiened to Wiytmineter Abbey and respecting their auetitutWaea, and entering into friendly , territory, but lice. use within the British tt•ITII,,Ty of the
presented a petition from the London relation. with them. He did not say whichC. •th •authorities • about punish '
St Paul's. cathedral, the former of which had been, the policy . . apt 4. %ere to a Kaffir who had
Missionary Society, praying for inquiry into the CARS, Or was desirable in this ease—it would be difficult to say with. I been guilty of some offence nallinSt the law. A party of
tattoo. downy was to be, after mush difficulty, theown the war at the Cape. out inquiry; but any policy between the two evatems Kaffirs was sent into the Cape territory to reSett' . the 1 •
opea to the Public. Said that acing that we were about to be NI, ADDEKLEy prewnted a petition from London whirl' he Witt just de-scribed mood fail. Lord Grey :mid in . goner ; and it turned out not to be a mere insulatee 1 attemptl
tainted bY a camber of intelligent strangers, that all the nwrehauts eimift Capes eted with the Ca, in favour of his me- his instructionts to Sir Harry Smith, that it would he not lof a few individuals, but a {intone, fled plan which had
cathedral+ on the continent were main Gee of charge, and non. lite hon. gentleman said that it` there had 14-en time enough for this alarm to Pam away, the ancient authori- ' been arranged by one of the chiefs. Now, n thecould bo •
that these place. were always visited by strangers, it Wail he be the petitiion would have la, n signed by almost ties had liven broken un. and it ma+ the task of the British no doubt hut that Sir P. Main food had when lowent to ;
most deorable that no...aeons should he renewed by the go- every rue•rehant in Laudon, but it had the signature of one governmen; to supply their place. Could anything be the colony the most honourable feelings towarde the native 1
vernineut for obtaining free access 10 all the cathedrals in individual to which he attached even mow importance clearer than the fact. that since 1817 it had beenboril Grey's ; tribes, and all his previous connections were calculated
the country. It ought to he stated, in justice to the capi- than to thoW of the merchants of Loudon. And that WAS the policy to break up the Authority of the all chief., anew Ito make,: lii.m. belLee that previous failures had arisen from ;
holm Wa of Nur. kit, \Y. H., and York• that those canoe- an/nature. of the geutienwei who represented the Cape color reaLece it with that of the go- sacrum 3 T.....h.. nil' r ' which , our mak e atm to conethate the Kaffir. But in an addres• ,
deft. Were already opm fro• of charge ; and in those CAWS Ili.t• in London. IW believed that a hawvai some person, had been munsr.ced must of course be finished. I written by him to the inhabitants of the colony and the
the very best results Lid been 4 dieted. might deka of the eh-wailer of that gentleman—and But what mai to be 4100 e afterwards' ? He pro- ' friendly, trill's he bore this remarkable testimony to the 1
Col. HAWDON said that Hampton Court was now open there was so person peupying • responsible. public pm posed that information should be obtained by means I forbearing conduct pursued by the colony thnoughuut the '
on Sundays: he would throw it to 13fr the cumiderution sition who wa. not liLlin to have as many enemies of a conimiwiou ...a the spat. and for that nwpOsll- he Mond I whole of the time referred to: He said , " Certain attacks I
ofthe' Roverument whether or not the National Ciallcry and se. (Real' .—that he represented at least ninefteut6 a precedent in they ear 15.27. To the prop- sal of the noble ; have been made, and the withdrawal of OUT troop has given
ew 6.1r114.1111 might not also be advantageously theorem open of the whe:e futun• electoral body at the Cape. He (Mr der At the head of the government fora select committee he rise to deprolatiuus of a peculiarly alines character, and'
withal clay. Adderley) believed that the government and colonists of greatly objected, bah tier ewe he SaW that the noble lord , which, coupled with other indications of a hostile feeling,
BUSINESS OF TIIE HOUSE. thr Cape were in a -erious danger and predicament. Hr. Washea tO maintain the present policy, and fweause 118.• thea arc evidence that tSe party- which prefers war to pt
111 answer to Sir G. el.ratn, thereuve. moved "that au :swak address bc presented w involved Cleat delay. A+ regarded the proposal of the him. without plunder predominates among the natives. So far
Lord J. RUSSELL said he proposed to take the steroid her Majesty', praying tket she .sill be graciou.ly pleased to , levant (Sir W. Mulomorth), that the troupe should be ' from this conduct Wing provoked by the colonists there is
rending of the Income Tax Bill the first thing on MoutlaL, &Naiad uSe oW more commisaioners, with instructions to . withdraan and the coktuiste left to defend themselves, it no act of aggression on their par!s which can be its
the ISth instant ; and he wished to give notice that Oh t , penned to South Africa win Attire and report to the : had this recommendation; he Mast say that the plan was corded for the last seven years. I make this
Thursday following. lw should move the second reading of Ws! le 14 tnlju .ing 'the re:ft-ions istweets- thft"country I larch effestise and sitnple, but it was wanting in justice. statement with pride and pleasure, and I believe ft to
the bill for the relief of Jewish disabaities before, any nth. r Kaffir-to-1b..... ,1 I of d werminiug the en- II: s: 0n....d, Iwwisi r. prefer it to the nannies ante noble he cornet to the letter... Now he thought that Sir P.
and the
business The nee y estimates would be brought on on the , gei. in.,. we eothred into :ml
117; Maje!ity's Hish Commis-' tont- AA ith these remarks, he begged to submit his motion Alaitland would not have made that stateinent without the
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came "T. after the Jrm bill had been read • second time.. saner is his settle tof the extended territory." .Now 'to the house. (Cheers.) fullest conviction that he was doing nu injustice- to the
Oa Ind oy they poopowel to go into conionittoe on the In- there was MI government at the Cape. nor for nearly two Mr. HUME seconded the motion.
come Tax Bill, and to proceed with the Ecclesiastical Titles year, had then: been any goverument of any sort or kind, 1 Katlirs. (Bear, hear.) That was continued for some time,
Bill on the Alonalay folluwing. (ilea:, hear.) With re- I
iteetaarAk, nasmarshic, es aristocratic. The governs r: matt to the hon. gentleman's motion. Us (Lord J. kW- Previous war. Lord J. RUSSELL said he rose to propos:, an amend. and it cost the treasury of this country more than had the
(Hear, hear.) Sir P. Maitland, and after-