The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-16 00:00:00

11P111128 OF PARtJAJUINyAIIty WORM,

iletaTed 11111711L11411,1a1 veered, with • to musks,
tar • Man of the exposes the ecosatry has foamed from
sad eellestieg mares meted for
the lw iambi" kw Meatless, treat February, 1848, to
Ansa, 1849.
Sr. moved as aa massioM,M Wort atter the
weed " Itestrese," the woods " Awl do by every Ohm
amber." Be bad set bawd a weed Got Mt tem the
noble hot, bat ho did wee Walt be email lobe ewe • shale
Yetis obi* beermitllosse) work
turd he without
ate ebape .
that
M ewes "kg
yew
ee brim befo4 she
lbs et the moodlture. being se, he was
wet ended the tine amble bed mod rums Ike Idea should
attempt le amok his =demos la that rays& (Cheers
sad kagitser:
Sir G. GREY loped the noble lewd would withdraw his
mob" as it 41,tiaetly implied a refertka urea the Ma.
member he Mantras% that white asehlas seen
essessited. (Hear, hear.) Ills leordoold reettlbemereeet
that as individual amber was ressowdbie tee the impetus
M Glass returns, because is was set fa the power et ea
awather to obtain Men; they were lot sly by the
owesat of the beam. (Hoer, hear.) He bads, ettleotioa
lea general ware, bat if eseaesay were she sable lord's
ehiset, he doubtol it it would be pita by so ettp.asive a
Masa.

Mr. Man= ;aid a Welt to t►e bcc
mambos toe Kemal= as a meg soma% sad said
*be adds lard to withdraw bis

Vheoant DRUKBAIII.IO ilia OM what the lee. atm-
los for Kostrese W set base wee doily this. thst be bed
theEabeitt*temeleitrot Yee. geollmes. esti
he& me to lit ems at beerever. didymium
se the ewes.% be would aet pees Ms mdse.
Meths * Wye whbbews.
_ soma OF COMMONI OFFICIS.

Mr. VARIER sieved the moodeellea of the /Amiss
West eiterolttse es the New et Commoso °Moe : —Mr.
W. P.M. W. V. Smith, Mr. Govlbeme, Cope. Jones. Mr.
BoolkoMoe, Mr. Carolled', Mr J. Osoot, Mr. Roche, air E
Mr. Sotbores.*.Mr. Thera*, Mr. Porker. Mr.
Ceille.V: G. Hoolltee. sail Virst. Mandovillo.—Agreed M.

SCHOOL 61-Iii8ION:

11r. M. GIBSON wed ir; aakateaSiaattase to inquire
lato the oesadtatios and masorsaaast at the pearsasist
silted al dude, sad to matt wit *pinks *amp&
Aditei to.

ATTORNIYB AND SOLICITORS IN IRELAND.

iiiitipliCfoi aiZW•iiiTa-i-biii to
mineinsigraizr wrid=rgar a tits lows roistfog to

CAL COMMISSION.
I. replyitWitecea Mr. HOUSIUJI,
Lord I. It oil he hoped to be able to lay the
WU es this tableet out the table et the home Wore Easter.
BORDINS ON AORICIILTIJIM—ADJOURNRD

DYBATL

Mr. M. GIBSON rerZeTtitTdelbete ea Mr. Din elib
sera, by that the teeparesis bras Asa keel.
rid earely rater persigies—eas lobe herded apes
Irks( the whole sneer et Ile palls Wren lesidea
es
it row steed, merely traribelleg a piers lima sae
sire to wasther—the sem pmsteritsist his hi.. Mead
the maim he am Se prier-
* ,d 111211:111 desess—egrealsed as weill
Lode.
that
die Sr • rearthasnal maitre..
ditty
dirt Wised
satired, sad aszteiyalylag the sespies ;Veep& of.
these tar width ipa
_Saville
begs
assisisl ladeatry Ss esiky. Ms able w pre.
herd the earaisseat te Se ander bar resaber
liteekieghearke imbed the go liiimplites.
he iles puree dmashe t• • viiir terelesieg •
se &sae, Se ate serstillasi had.
tMe a/ de
rosier wadi brie sislidea the has,
art weal war" es So learatita eta bdL Dr Ismer
se serisity whereat tom,whr he bad treasibredi Sete
sit rare ft the ees ideo ter, he wort be ells to
peril pr agree to the
ades with ward h*rett soy. How, Ass, w teldr-
the hews rat, iii eve* it thvosrahls to the
Ss sleep berg "Ming to
Prsni=latisa. It they, wi etth their eyes epee, sad
tars
rest
wither barge
Ss are Soy weld snare the requisite
to s " pseeseir to reds thie
Used thaw, thee lesviag it Se trees whether it sight aft
be asesesery to SOW • per mare Ora the dividends
whoa they and Wm, dee / Deg thei wee ad bit preyed
proud he eigesthe ts the term The seem et the
saaareent wee purer Ore reirdeet of expladitere the
hen. wake lor it wry, it was. Re
Wsjle re a dowse et als iess la the reseliierl
il raid Ishe MI three ruder peeliareat wo•M
give theism tease, Sas resiadag th abase • eartsiaty that
we third set be abbe he neat the peril writer. Lest
year a proposal :53, iscreedert u tosses-era re sot re-
ceived- with say delver ei vitieur• we either side
the • beses—(her, bear); hew err it be
that a peeper ter a still larger baser welrt
last idol owe fever 1 (Rear, beer.) Thole were
tllO OM norm Ins dray
that Mr thastra sirs* ea reel that it
beredlA rasa serelle ea laid by iseiseiteed per-
pests Vies Ohara* Abe lise4t, is Ms sear ebb aid
esaltrileereedi hal sethdy lithe of
lm
rise perm trailer wee that lead
rod 13/ oPlolloirti ImPoole es rile ether real
, omit psy sere Asa its dr et the bed tar-
erialry; this re paired by the are I.
whisk reel tesallsa wee Wei. It wet levied as Se nasal
iscris wiry kin teal popery, sot oa Hs ride* rho;
sal Sere was ae prise if Mal -propirty eV OM Ss ye,
ealasUre se ere s peereikate die latitude rise se Mal
red fir ogeisereed peepers. (Herr bear.) Aa estate et
mart bid niii Se 10 Yrs/ jeweler, the Mai= Wag
=tided with Pi 'se asst. by his wry; while alt are
this 11,15, er 10 ran' parrs wee gives be
se ler yisita NAM et 7 pee teat Moir, leserlitint
sneer rad, throe was levied ea 3 re emit. etthe
?shot M Mu/ mote gm 7 per mot 111
=al barrels* rim, doable the amnia et bed
use rhea ken hatillegetz sorra with red
Swthlertirerilleheralassiarlikemilk largitt trNaehea
'
rAIOL a year, std rid are ea TOL OM ho 11N I
161., sr be try hr le pay the lapel ratios sa
• Ilea, hear.) If ibis were eserst, tire ens a
a pertad
shaper et the paprik thee had be ogriseitted -
peerless raid arre Sas etherdeg seal . The reel
raw ea loser sea * tees 47=.4
sad all troehe algereata whit& had Ira uor htla rehrtar te
Se Jabber ertheesuantinisar 1111/ , illsrproja!
31= the else el rel
_pelpedywhs dike*
Mar.) Tbs idle segment et tbet
hes. at Wall that real yeetgere., as a yule. mos mg
to be.eherged with alb Se wad tear MUM, asetrist
emaalmais am_ 3•4•14.2•• avow 'WOW
adielli le the of re petal* 'MS hews/

than Moly es seat g bid the malither et the
=7 sew was Para, bad been pu-
ff/able to those Mee; ad the maths mid not
sow be dmill with as them% tt was loathed it the Am
. thsh Am s rdesirk, every Malted of a Markt aught to
maisibutr lean the espied of the peer sod ether land
deesilhog to his mosso—(dweve trout the pease-
)—but, after all, se fairer idiedien at the muse et
• perm end bs disked um elte home
se hied is esti
the veal peered ebe lowtworathstU
mid be misused es Mar Ws egos the abr.
himds, awe to atone. 111•1 w" ow**
dilbeent heel the Nereid et *Met seriensma is treader
than Iced tortes- espbe emeMeed fait There might be
14foltoo is so/ Plea heel imperfections of
ameleg • mak smatlesier &bid amedlog tolls soma ;
but semahelabee in the diadballes of t'hordes mold
be 'Mimed aria eiti eis es ths emesilisted fund. Sow
was that madiee A esseeisequil sea enemies mild
ace be 1•111111111 ML Cali= sad Zeiss laths were
nearly ell Oil byes indsoideue ohms% tad iltemed • Wire
tea. their Immo and disk same illes the revs
Wirlifroffo„Ltmobil red prepay le a partied*/ a-
kar Is Book mar. (IMO Is reit
rblestt, F"''''''weribigi mad pked kr iolooftfrit
so doe smedlilatal lasi; so Misr side ma a
be
Moil is peed.thes leideg • aweasesspalles sea tees of
Ye mead. Thi Midge MI bees made to mese stook is
lisle. boa iteesid set beim ; the homes stook in
Wade me set Mod, Bawd messed. amordiag sa
pest anihestty, to two Mnsdred minims If the Ms*
et a Weirs the or small tradoemes was
ea mime that if the knew; ash the mates weld
keeled is maims dithisky. (11wok Wm) non war sr
roweled mob et emenist Mel velee es Me klebilents
all alma is aesseleses- Mb their mama et
woad ennuel. WAN. there UAW la
almakukethe hod MM. Is Abe assesiaM hiond. is
time dot glen reread. belt the seem wadi afil
M be solleeld. sad the aim esenbreue make/ masse be
embsel so use sow swaths. There WWII be oho seem
is villsidst ammo se in edintisi s
Alpena& selesabes litly-fser kindest same were
ImpArdeitmeri:ellesties eljestorma as:
a laden es the real pregody whilst any pow
Bet the local
Mrs wee left te be Made& If the plea wen mod a pets-
eide,whish badmiekkwadd be Marto India the Moho
to the essedideed
(11mr.) —He mild embed lies.
Fathom make Is smiler the presesemer deka
Sim the toe Ism led his Needed, a y sew
MA Mom hod arises in the eimadse. The seseld hr
Bub had pressed Me this natter two Measeem
Milk bower meld not serve him with Ile melee beans
maim M asselliatt. Is the drat yids dm the mis-
time etthe urs law to de with the posienee of laid Modem
laths imported ad idnestiel pulse ormiseed wish veal
prepay is the toms t Did the has. member
am to mad that • limitable on the Imply of
teed mold make them parties better able to bur
the NMI at heal hardest? Would a small loaf NOM-
remethis tee lavas to best, it_wes idlesed, s strata
a taws zireportyas" TharieriVeratarsboty: sealh propertyci
made ell behalf se die. laded kismet, to rase the pries of
kid by Mmilosher with Magam yes markets. TM other
seftessons legit was the Alar whisk he admitted to be
eumnive, is the milt et/asked ;•bat every OM knew that
*0,.. had provoked brim, sad that the diarist of 1836,
arise a period elksi peolsotios, with on agoiedtural moo-
MOM slating, won hr polder Iles any distrme of the preens
time. Calms has. Redlines apposite moiderad well the
Me they gave an this SIIIIIMINN2t. they might amen& a
miens reAdeml blander, the oßseb of whisk they woad set
se sadly get rid at. (Hoer, hoer.) The other night. the
pea tombs, hr the West Mai had brought kr/ad his
nodes it redoetios of the national oxpesdivere. /eases,
Iltdolk, and Benny had Wed is Mew of that motion.
(par) Be believed they wend see hove dose so if the
ma laws had sot bees oersted. (Clan.) Baez else was
sholom. (WONT.) The het member for that county
Lad gives a rather komei Mantas to the Chan-
cellor of the Zaire". BM he should look after
him with more them weed elglionse,
_s ew that the time
veers, and thee MI bees withdraws.
(Laugliktes:.r. At a resent moieties is Bases, at-
mid by meet ballasted
mai the
landed poordeeles, that hetbermye e ballasted al=
dish bed Meneted a rad deal of polls sfteitiem. He
hod set ran the skied eaboattimg my plan of his own, se
the les. member he Buts had dose; he bed said--" I
hue no Om hr yes, Mt I advise you, spas the whole, to
be .alleged , mod to have madame in your seentate."
(Greet beglisr.) 01111111•01 npreseatisig agehultural in-
terests were nor skeet to be tried, mai it meld be seen
whether they were hued "sating. It behoved them, there-
fore, to reediest whet they hod slid um the butane, sad
whet they had lei irk seemitemb to bshevs, and not to be
led ion esmarOs miens raided bluder. He had never
St:he • the task tax—he wee never • " malt
"—bet Mislays timed thin wart pod uto-
semeimill.lolllloll agaves It. As en rake duty, requiring
the weakens amstestare his mit voider a est of
vopiallemethet hrei his diversdas, asst rrtveated him
hem dear is th• beam' dome* ,b wee an WPM'
he massfeelterer and s proms wpm the admen of the
vestry. (Hear, bear.) As England meashotuted malt
better the ether made% thou was as drat trade is beer
ad oho redoes of malt; and by Mies the lent et the no.
feeble, Mast Ore mite logniatieme. the eared Mit
wee Mud. wed threogit it the lama trade mat gem
ral laduay of the masay. (Roar' beer.) There were ear
arguseesta spinal all tam tand it was extremely dif-
AIM, with anything like aeihematied presidia, to kart.
mime where the disadvantages was • susegent, whim
beksaiss betweeu different tones. But •my Maury rule
had busted do the Mies stemmas sountoy
—Meet all, is awn by
peir asymplus ase Might Mee, to
did with these duties whisk peed as tbe row materiels
mad is the mandestares titeas, mil oho to deal
m with these mks dada dish es the Mend
bombes of madames ad Mir 111111111•11 a KM.
pallid. (lima liedvatehmishevemelatimmit taz spas
pens& purely tioasessioal, eel redesely eensietsst with the
polity parliament lad hitherto pumed. His. gent:ems
opposite nut he esneibie that there was se dinetidies of
poverty to the passomios of which greater mill sleastops
were mead than to Md. It was their ram ad
their dotty to support the ameedmsst, r far as to
give it • domes of bear pat. These gleams who
duetted miselion of dresditure MGM se sap-
ped the searadmest. The mid dames mad
law et eselissesst, glass • dale to mild after flpea
realism, had thews an edditional busks es Me mann-
haterimg deism ; het there had bees se ompiaiat ; Is
lienehmeer it MI bass held Mk mimed estisfestios ;
thou wae se implissee mike k s they wore quite ready to
Me. media beer, their fob the W level Imam sad Mal
Ile believed there woe se desire as the put
et der mom assisted with these grist quaked, Mt
that wise were e. %spoilt mks in tbe seems
and impeded ems demihe mesa:
twee to Imo level at shish It bees behre—la tau level
whisk we net seam thee was smoseery, to it bad beim
reeved, ke the meaty OM mum ad that puma the
"diem( aft dm, by
_yenadat the somes, the ma-
soashues, and the siOsalkin daps maim (abeam.)

lb. K. 111,111111 derailed tbe landlords from the et-
Wu while bad bang lode oyes these. He should Tote fee
the notion ot He hes. MINI the samba far Beekiegbaa•
Ake. He esifteeie4 HO if • , bilked of beteg
idpeasead, weir awe se Mr. Diweeire etheste
Lle be eserieilstit, dace kiwi 'ajar:BY. He
ems el the paid= of Mr. Dimell, mailed by
Illibessaissid dies attacked theavoissate of Mr. Huse,
mall hestree, vb. aggariad to be nuked out
end whose Me, is hisegisies, semi& be a great
to the semidry.
Lad 31011.1131Y8 said that as the pies of the bee. new
bee for Beeidegbeneldte west sapewarny kid to ea sin,

en is the patine to. tia. and is lei wartit prepared
is vele hi soy oast,ddhles he era seat mplit ilif row
Woo of Se ltis. trashy:. MAO Tbl lerepieldea
=l.lto bin foto a eeerthouteibat miss of shied-
wideb, *Rat it [street the paha otpeolllois
wand teeny thee Ina lownannt whin seemed the
peens sag twirjrne etneft, sad wee at tke hes
yob& of (ber. leer.) He seed a
tow opepien the.aellea at the boa. miner keno
Artaho Sell an aim esnrieleatly loin en yen
asd the of hi* Wei Mil the pals • eneiter,
vote for the yeeplitlea of the boa. nenhat hi Yastrow.
Mr. C. LEWIS laid Oat seep giodases who bed
salsa did oat doesto be aware at Se peat drips whin
noel Libor ea the adenks at the Pin PIeSSI bY *I-
hell, ember in The Alehlie
girl eed/ean la lels dolpseohU ea*
sad, a It appeased to had sea moderated the suss
of • heel tazatiss (Rear, hear.) He beeped to aall
the meentlea of the leen to on portico a the sordiet, to
whisk hayweli wean the few numbs be bad. to =alto—
ems" Re milk_ KO. 11=itsti isel}eme of load solids.
The *Wes or toestistio. loamy arose flees the lost-
demo SI the peeesdi, whisk Sig the sea eztesolve et
the heal tank serval as UN' angel IS, other keel teen
Wahl haw hen pier
i Isty wh
eat
see ot tine. Then
sualtatie iie sea pasted msspseheaded
wei r t team Of the 43rd eC Elizabeth es beim
*lie to titir rots-{far, lwar4-Id, id the
et the were joker of
riCett elfiDeate pee a wow naanottra to
then. sin they had see nista i Wen that
petty wee nor fdellirjhe Wield the pots of Clear=
leul bare* . lee* to trade wee the rely spelt, of pro-
perty whisk wes to be retinas, sod that aely is teen
when there wee s wet. The not alle sieved a bier
seam
tics ter inn se Mat, hl sank to leak wee anew
preelleelly rated. All V* wird/ Inner balailid per-
scallis=reT. Il= II 10301% wily'the ens-
try it en et to maw that nee* af
=ghen the Me. Tban meld ennely he -ii emit
oes airing le the ilikeelV. along the inandlllln
al lavyht. had reen ea ealr_Aar ell peps*
thralhat whisk ertervhfidetrillek the ' Ste to
so girl prepoiy—ead Oat ray . Wavy =Be
ea the plea* et ea bean tea post loi to -
Ceaseegui min this Malted iodises the MS
bout emir - of
alatailtratisa by Intl =gebri
pewee who had ea latent. la re an
ens eure le ocanabtai itt applaellis iiiii whip If
*eh kid bowie* were lead ebb to NOY eat
nalleallea
bats min . hash ins the system width bed pews op
sollatitheo be Wald sell a *tads applies*. sad a tee-
tells edothieer of the la_ er, hos dee peer 1111 to the
posed time. wed whish bad lesitl_ sesdft4 ...." iidli
E' rate le ether heal tan. Re *OR " ir. me
UMW of the several :rats The maatiod, ed
pos ma heinlisithe analy re le sad to • emir is
• the banal nee. ohs honed lea year ia •11
. wain.., npos. - The itamist et MO__eflll.eto naii.
aenedling No the sheet Beretrem* ens 1,50c00m The
clerk rats, anordleg to the loot MUM, whin was n far

be& sr

T:vase
id&4ignrib-i and otiCer
Area; ,4 nt
Wei; be &Id sob st prodoeetsd
a total of 10,4170101. Tho relief of the peer is *lceland, so.
Nebo to the Mon of hot year. was 644,0001, The has.
=lean, kWh* his animates before the home, eseluded
abageniso. Now, be mw no TIMM why, ifehoy
were to veto Sin tronsfuring half the expenditure or the poor
coo MA itinat, rats in Milani and Wales, they
awed mean to come to • sinew vote with re-
gemi to Irene. They had leer hen called es to eon-
• the mean of sopplyin the dslel of the
gsse ran la the sass of Len* which was esedly in-
odsgesie *sr the rellef of the peer k sneak seen then ;
nirslbes. whatnot sumo mine for • sellionl=
b ell la =pest So whit redoubled
roped to ken* Wit:Mlle*. peer la bend k
theamoteuda fispleimbee, was falter um *mil
1, es the enehwe k that Year WM
augmented by be Ismail lake
the regular expenirigharesiedreze The ems
he Imbed moaned to 1,000, which gave
ke Wend. Adding the fee die paw Wiest.
Mil to rtie and sewn nes la belaahtbiLhis.d •
Seed of kr the Mlle Linglint. mom*
lei to the a eniesson's eon, then was ter
bed tar. Now, esarlierfsg tide large anent, whin the
gbh of the hon. gentleman required them to provide for, it
suet be wienitted that the change whisk he sane ea the
Imo N make was on of blunts, mogultee, and ki-
nked mmennenese which it was ialfololll kr them
adlionly to estimate. An altoratien of their Low
del system to els* au extent Vila involve an&
errwhisk it behoved the bone well to enlist before
s s
ed to shaping( the hen. gesdninn. (Noe, lisei)
▪ there Ina ether enelderetiess betide the Iloonsial one
invoked to tito propose treeskr. Under the present err
ten, the osisotW of the keel tees teld•g=esseinively
in the diotrist, it wee the kismet of abs. 11111111111111117.
If half of the moan at mailaillmi tls pro 11111 i Übe
savant of the nut, raseWPM for ma of the
national treasury, meld It be kite that the whets *iv
raster of local adininistratkm would he altered
the hon. member laid ke pinned the Ike elleire
keel rates should Ist trans to the eumeildefend, he
onapseed that what be kande wee mosey that there
shied be en weal vote lo the onsuat required; and he
pat it to the boa. member WINS MN of &bates ware likely
to take place When the Cbammeller of the bxebequer pro.
posed rates in aid as amen of rams, highway rates,
sonny mos, sad churches, rats? Hear, hear.) Could the
hems, without • dereliotion of duty, vote the normous
seams of mosey which would be required for smelt
without the strictest inquiry? It was an of the
assiamptions bivalved la the hon. number's plea that the
amount of the local rates would, if it came taco operation,
semen stationery.

Mr. DISL&ELI thought the amount would very mach
Increase.

Mr. C. LEWIS said that was admitting what eonadtuted
a most powerful objection to the plan proposed. The great
secarity for keeping the relief of the poor within bounds
stagnant with the safety of property—bounds which had
been nearly passed at one period in ll:island—and
had been actually passed in emu districts in Its.
lead wee a mkt asheresee to the principle of local
taxation and athains Mallon. It one union Gould vie with

nether is demanding remittances from the treasury, the
lerl 1111110110 el et proems would be seriously increased.
The bee. member himself seemed to admit that that kind of
peril was involved in his plan.
Mr. DISRAELI—No.
Db. C. LEWIS—At all events he wee not entitled to
sesame that the amount of ewe would vestals stationary.
He did not Welt the adeptioa et the bon. member's plan
would issue in any relief to the general interests lithe cone
try ; while as regarded the landowaers and tarots,
for whose bemedt it was modally iodised. he felt stmildent
that tbq would in the *ad Sad that their burdens had been
matesiafy increased. (Hear, bear.)

Bit R:LOPEB was of °pinks that it was ths immediate
duty of the government to comidsr, with a view to the
alimietioa of the agriaaltasisi, the burdens which bore epos
them consegaest cm the feast changes width had been
made by the alteration of tariffs and by free trade.
- " • - •

Sir J. CHOLMELBY ssprerisd his Intention of
voting for the wades of t►e hen. member tor Switiaglsent.
shin, bet would suggest that, instead of an %grease is the
WNW 111 Z, a 0011111121 plated by the Chaneelke of the Ex-
chequer, there &NO be a nrato Axed dal, on foreign
OWL

Mr. P. W. MILES said the hon. patients the Under
Seentary of State for the MEN Department (Mr. C. Lewis)
had dwelt melt on the etheletith opinions of Judges sate
the twestruetion of the flied of Enabeth, and had shwa
pretty °lowly that panne greprty had in bet been for
ritandoyenmemre
atheriedier Mien the burden
in poor reastraforwitx
Ms plea, had gene bask le Int prineiples—(bear, hear)—
sad had shwa whet were the tree principles of the set is
question He (Mr. Miss) was at a loos to understand why
the hon. plisimas (Kr. C. Lewis), had, like the Chan.
taller of the In vesper, followed so earnestly the visionary
light of an sill Sea to the biome tax. (" Hear,
hear." and laughter.) His honourable friend the amber
for
_Buenaghantshire had not node the slightest

Vision to a property tan or as issenal tan.
The "sly remark which he had made co jail, sachobeema-
dons ma, that the maehinery already misted by mans a
which the Wades from which heiresired to relieve real re!
pertysVortrub: transferred to usal property. He dodo
mild whatever about llamas an addideseldsitee:
imossee. hoe. member Montrose had
that these local tams were bemired toes real
is lien of manor, servieos. Where, he
reeergsd glad to lank, had the hos. ameba *Mined hie
ithormaties ? (Hear, beer.) If deltas. member 'assailed
the page of , is• would lad that military service eon.
timed down toot the r of Charles 11, whams some do.
"caption of peer law sited as early as that of Richard 11.
(Hear.) He contended that for the purpaa of natiosality,
real property was tee highly taxed, aaa what wee required
' al, that the mode disoth he &abed is whisk this unfair
peasre add be bath eserpred leis the she lose which
sew Mee irks, Se rthisildbededkom The alb=
elph of* law, as kid &two by aeolit, dearly
• the Wks' now berm rashedvely by realty abseil be
bake in die proportion by pareselty Look at the 11111111Mila
Menem of late pared the sieenn.t of the essalpaste.
Ids 1793, the county mho 184,0001. ; is 10th,
Vtra; in lath, 610,01111.; in 1823, 671,0001. ; ink
; la 1847, the amosat would km bees 1,310,0001.,
bet fir the easeeibudos mode by the gommant to the
exposes of sunk poseesidose, 'Ma reared the whole
amount a essay sate is that yam to I,OIS,SUM.
!wedamid
of his own adtpe ale that the laigheot4 by
the best whoa of lest year, in the west a where
* sues moreover tad been earemely was
the. He hod himself sown 1,200 both* and
set a quarter of wheat est of the whole freedom had
Skim& are the. Mk Theso hat been is the WI yaw
three millicas of quash= of lareigs whoa beperasi ims
this arantry, al taking the avenge conemmanse ese
meheastriaberthe tl
wslspfbatr
thlrilliese rep. methane
lea.
gentle.
wegil =es= the lfark7swe Earns of last
the perikankry monthly '
W'f the samba of beide brought to SAW I
from time I. that, IS wholly
aid le teadleasAlly or otherwise, Or=l
theaideettaral mr_to the state of the trade is
width flay wen He melended, 'mar, to the
steasont el wenor of the Aloh, lest the Peke
alma he yews. The as
had tos
deprived of the proked's they had Meador' edged by m
me
fish of their own; it eheald be so kik slack as if they
were still Author soma& kr • lad of debeithal ems ,
were resolved ;bpi a lethen of ark sigh% :lel
band he maviseed wield income Is name
power year after year. (Hoar, hear.) He again
Meant rimis that their tine wee sot yet mem ; :mga
Beams ell dams of the ormannity were sow
arby doe illmalroso operatics of the free
m math le them. (Hear bear.) If eked to
site 'tits loot year es mimed with those if the',
see be Ism! that the 'web of oar menthectareo
la the assoitof so less Sim four Mies and
a half, allibeesk that pmeskos year of comperbas was
by so _went rmadorM ine of missal seaummial
=ty. If he looked to the math= aim peat mask
er ear }abating deism issoseral, Wee
ark swaths better dam might be torrid
that of our aped" ? pee swim At,aisiwthirs: piddle
lazes
ethetscriarnsit is the beinediate,
he& of t,plbee
slated that set asethard of the same stertheso marl=
men who &math fir their sabditessesozzetst rases of
their, owndaily Memo, could sew Sad Gewalt of
say Mal- TheUeee ahlthfsetp=enelaft taw
phi
wipe of thet Me whir& were'
with siTaii—deame of Mbar sesstriee mined be
res°lllpreiedies of Swap •aemsdoeturk OM this
trade, be tree prepared to Mk as =air
rity, hem the mamba Muslim of pekes to
Ole 'peal= of dollars's* ma stabs skasethistabes-
dosed la this eanaky,
_To Ikea malmthely dome Mb brk
partem one must be added, in estimators the newt d thb,
prevalent diaries in se many brasehoo el the nalissal is.
dusky, namely, that the poor rate la very astokletthith
bareased, whisk the bet twelve rassa is ke oak
IS 111 per oast. (Hear. hear.) dad Ise sow sae,
ape alms km" hie awn ezparimeee ao a smith= is his an
;eitterraaottt parties ids, hat-bean assaitsd with
the•
• a lb. New Posraaw mar elate it is.lmatios of • the lesthaftre, that at a thee
that interval had more utesolve disbar
been • Ikea to milt, or the ken, of gasped=
bemuse mom alarming the. at this sanest ; sad
that sat user* is the sahms ask mars
Ihtriels, bat la Bethislabe Saidlooth ematishort
that bek s=l. es* other 'the bad mil, In
**fie alai then why deal you, the Ins&
ad esenß.kra _aloe sire to ample, these
labourers, who mad w work mai they be=
t?" (Chem.) this was way to be said,
beTtlik=were the tisest.ikkes ad the OIMSOB‘Zei:
had the merisawhomoththlePos ilk wages tiro' then
have to be el moth atithew Meth?. Has
drat, tis relieve lead is the sod, and to the eskiat pro:
mead by his hem hind the mamba: fir B
ad till that was dem be (Kr. MOM)
that the thee kid net come be amolloi the of the
malt tax or etthe duty 111 When the owed
be reteepesed on Mt imported
herelle :eas—(laroshlet, , kiss of ." beer")-;-11 Mead
M tbs. week to Inge the popeal th ether beak
Marl It dm bones bis MI Salim' that
the repaid .. et kb km. Mend (Mr. , if Midst
out maid prove every pa 'dyad's, Who , ad to
all the labour sad Weak, asseeted with* that be found

P-

. -
lameliffiltklit my charms" tbir ooletion—he het Massif
basalt, mint that proration.. (Ikon) •
sitetice4bsittlzmay
mg=
of edeepratension hep,
beaches opposite with regard prupoaition or the has.
somber for Dmidaghasaddre. We were originally ghee to
usiseimmil, ltl Wilde -1111, that the basis or penai
week of that pt rfitica was the prevalence et
great distress eamag—all Ames of the community contested
with sideshow la this country. (Hear, hear.) But the
ti&t the boa. mover desseibed a saes at a very different
whilst the speech of the bon. member for Be-
who has jut sat down, has apprised you that
acme of the Masses resulting from the bantams en land tem•
bale on that due whom the hoe. mover would
= el
pm ti relieve' by adoptive hiegfreition. (Misr,
beer.) The member for Backs, in his on introosider
this quashes, quoted something I am to have stated ea a
fonnerumasien, admitting the 'readier's, Frivolling smug
the spienitural classes. He mbquoted what I than mid—
way unintentionally, I me quite sure, but very strangely.
I never expressed myself to the effect—(sed, if I bad dins so
I should have betrayed great truant* of that whist:
mast be **la the 1101111sanse or experience of almost,
every man—that gesereAy speaking the distress of the.
had bun wry severe fat by the agricultural coax&
I said that little had bats said about the poseurs of
cultural distress more sternward than Cambridge et la
!Suffolk, sad that in the meth of Weed the lay
of agricultural abbess had scarcely beta hula .10
(Chien.) And I my further, that hardly anything bat brio
ever asserted of late in the north as to the depression et
urbane-al priors. (Cries of " Oh, oh," from the now
ate boletus ) Wall, sir, I ma only mute the house sirs
met bat a few days
someego with some goatees who had bear
tome
they tuerafreatbas ▪ h:ds"beeirilialing th:b wheat ia
markets *Tie at from 475. to 48e. per quarter on an average.
They bad a fair crop last year of good quality, and they are
satisfied with the prime they have received. The hoe. gentle.
man who bas jut sat down made one statement upon which
I must be allowed to offer a word or two. That hoe. member
told us that he had lately been selling some wheat. (Beer,
hear.) He told us that his wheat was only of interior
quality, yet that he realised, I think, 425. per
quarter ter it. (Hear, bear.) Now, I think if he
could get each pubes sr an tartarc wheat, wheat
of ordinary a gradates must be fetchicg very far
priees just now. hear.) There are other gentlessea,
sir, in this home who an, themselves, manufacturers amber
articles. I alsaildlike took*, hoe.member forßomenetaire
what he thinks is tie scaled prate they obtain when
carry into the market that which they admit to be a dams
cr an inferior article ? (Hear, hear.) Why they will obtain,
of coarse, only the lowest stele of prices for such goods. •
They will not get after the rate of 42.., which the hoa.
member who template of noremanerating priers can obtaia
for his inferior ara wheat of inferior quality. But as
for better wheats, I mat with a gentlemen a few de=
that who told me Bubb wheat was worth, now, in
from 63i. to 545. per quieter. He added that other (magi
wheats of fair guilty wore obtaining on an average
about 48s. per quarter. (Hear, hear.) Wel,, sir, I tell the
hon. gentlemen opposite •to me, that their home-grown
wheat, of the same quality, will now fetch the same prate.
(Cheers.) I say, then, that the pretense on which this
motion his been brought (onward have totally failed—that
no
ground has been laid for any change in the existing bur-
dens upon the land which can be justified, either by the
present condition of toe tenant-Miner, or of the prices of
agricultural products in oar markets. The bon. member for
Buileughamitins admits that he is opposed to, and would
not vote for, a nations' rata of this kind. And I think ha is
very wise in coming to this conclusion. The arrasuote
against a national rate are, in my mind, of insuperable hires.
I am firmly persuaded that the various expenses courses&
with it would rue up these rates, of which the boast Is
already said to be oppressive, at least five-fold withia iw
wars. But I think the original objects and working tithes.
local rates have been a good deal misunderstood. (Haar,
hear.) The honourablegentleman appears to contend
:bat these burdens should be imposed on all classes of the
community, instead of us particular elms, and that by such
a re-distribution a great good would be effected, se for as the
landlord sad tenanin,armer wee concerned. But unless he
could devise some means for getting at the same principle of
rating all property equally he would accomplish nothing to.
words effecting his own purpose. (Hear, hear.) I haorea
to be consecteil with the local administration of a township,
in which a proportion of local rating actually expsaded en
the relief of the poor does not exceed, perhaps, 7d. in the
pound. There are townships and Metric a in its Immediate
neighbOurbriod in which the rate for the same purpose
is not Ms than 7s. or Bs. In the pound. (Hear, hear.)
Now, it is' quite clear, that any manufacturer or capitalist
largely engaged in trade, who has built a mill or a factory IN
such a district, would he anxious, under • general rate, to
come within such a township, and thus so much enhance the
charge for the relief of die poor under any pressure of trade
that should throe labour largely out of employment as to
drive away particalar trades, as well as capitalas, to.. the
locality. All rates would, under such a state of *lap, he
enormousl istrossett, sad you would thu by wappartiag
the peoposltos Wen the hoes*, be accessory to the rule et
both the landed made eemseoreial literati of the
It has been mid that the of the hon. gantiimme
(11r. Diemen) is . I. a great deal of
mystery and confusisa. I have eadareamed
aerate the veil by which it Is wereaadadi
and I will endeavour to explain the ccedusisas at whisk II
have arrived upon it. It apron, lien, to me thus it is a
proposition having for Its okest to withdraw incises to the
amount at some 6,000,0001._ pegassun from meads shoulass
on whist theY are aew sedael, end to impose them upon
otbsrsislort boar /Off" I. short, them who new
carrie r by them to those who Wants have
rolilisl
then The he..gestisessa's seism se seat&
ios wad" probably rellopess 11,000,0001. ea these hem
wham he would take the Ft aggregate et 6,000,0001.,
and apportion the ethos ,0001. to ether deism of the
am
draw Well ; but. 00l• that he would so
withdraw tram *es who et el
"Plabi.o would
by no me* repro* the peel la hsa. gen-
Umms_oppoelt• desire to the lead Ant its pre-
sent lishaties, or of the enhossed vales whisk their
show weld practically ma* Asps. the load generally.
(Lend mks of Hear, hear.") Awning the whole amt-
. gate el Ind in this kingdom enable et oaltintion to mon
sest es lacrosse equal to what it had hem stated at by eon
doom opposite, a rise in the vans of the fee simple of as
We, assonant on the nabob* of three millions of taxa-
li4o74gAr earn*, weal& he equivalent to 2 per cent. or
*lbw As Inman value of per amt.
weal" repteesst 1110,000,0001. m the increased value of tho
it to be brought Mr eels into the market, er
trellieg2macdonhig tasks proposition es that whisk
was now bet* it. (Ban bear.) Re for one did net,
eek that 01919 were** in akin the isidstsre sealdi bo
b ght to lidia th rosy sndi propasition. (ilenr.) Item not
likely, he heethdOlo meet with *di fawn from wt
house. (Hear.) The ken gentleman appetite, sad lb
friends sensed *get* to forget the ultimate east ef
Scant onnuning so exclasive a prepseiths as he lid
ht before it for *le benefit of the *di. If I set net
, the whole cultivatable lands of di Eaglasol and
Wales amount to more than twenty-fin—psehqs, Wood,
tO thirty—midloss of eons. livery acre yea woad thus
relieve, I must repeat, would rise in value fa the
of from IA to 101. (Cries of " Hoar," and sheen. I
will be content to say 61. may. This *n en regnant
an ensue* of capital invested in the lands held by most-
farmers aad 011011 el not lees than one hundred sad Mr
millions of ponds sterling Would not this,
pinata a great Injustice to all other d
of property for the sake of an exolasiTo.
fit to the land ? I sok bps. gentlemos
whether or they themselves sonsider that fhb ;ISt
right tarpaper (Hear, hear.) I do think that the
dm sow baste the home is, however, not less
thee it is unjust. It bee for its ostenible object to relieve
the present pressure 'taint whisk I believe to be the tempo-
rary distress of the landed labs* But then the hon. mem-
ber for Baddegbantalthe b so very discriminating in his
views of that oustioa, Ibit the cses of the ageocalturisto of
Boothia. dld aot elke Owen a single word in his speedo.
(Resr, hesr.) . And as for the agriculturists, or any other
elan of the unhappy community of the lister bind, he
turn" te the Irish the odd , he all his sympathy
for them extended to that which is proverbially said to be
the alms of these who have no money in their pockets
wherewith to afford more substantial relief. He gave dam—
adios. (Laughter and cheers.) It has been metsalsel that
=shim of the hen. member (Yr. Diersoll)4=ll
to effect, remora a great muse of
smug the oxcart farmers. Sir, I ma wayless& it would
create Tay great *meted among the (il he)
I ;repeatreat this is an
_eoeviction
g lands nhisk t I redly
thwryiok that the
_p i roposidset of the khasen. member kr Bucking-
henskin bbeaded ea Ma* eababad to beguile the
house into its edep owlish ore amenable to severe
osann. This tin, ladled, naiads me Ii a
story oridek many hen goademe. ban lodises heard Who%
gt whin I will ventrookastobitella the lams la very M wards:
• osmpsay of aboillog players, who
happened laticillie Is Sex qui*, nos peoptesd to
gaiettacz=r "far the lassik of the poor"
of It woe ealounisol by them who
this bassliss thus the est of oantribediag tow.
wards thennef d ths peer orseWasakvlathasor the
=note bend loomnoarly Is the per.
• sad this mat pond the. this anti-
eighties. Dad mhos it sm. le a gun* as to how the
proosods woe to he npeigtiond, the strolling company
ebbed them all for thinsolveo, oa the peinciple that they
themselves were "the peer" istoseded. (Continued
begither.) This is just the case with the proposal of the
hes. member, ff you look at is red Inodissebe. He would
prone this letioa ke the *oat hemose—of seise ilosm
raft; but he dose not soy of Nis his. Rini soar
him—for the repeal of the melt tan (Ingidamed .hams.)
" We" he says, " do not se (rr that tpromst. Ft is net
thetime to ask this relief kw you; hod we tisa't
n be a redo* elthe whole same of nil*/ taxation."
Mom) As to the malt tee, I ma net eltogether penned
te ambreto all the view. entishoned by sins ▪ of my ho..
Moods on that salfist. I am admit of them who Wok that
the people at large will be mash*. hoppiar for bong relieved
Inn butn. As little de I Rinkyams tho
more sands" by taxing•t you
*▪ Mover semen fa attempting to east tt
el etrashomme or any ether ASO dm* by readoring
nide*. tsar. (Hear.) Ma I de 1110 k the; ff by as.
poodles So dillp stslt, yeslannisePom. aria Itho poor
ma mist lbw the purelmes AWN" MMus ▪ men mat
or value,or mumiene, to his*. that lath the sett of
which thb tax eaters, you do wit and
what ea bon beronst has odd 1aw.....
this thin% I do bane that the tisk tax is one injurious
09 erlidlales ethreselre ullta the nothing Menne ma
essienser. I am opposed to ell them *ffel enowbsonts. I I
would lenity sapped any proposi whisk west le the

reduction of those taxes on raw 'material that stand in the
may of nutaufacturing labour and eon tree market
Lathe Industry of our artisans. This prom-
was recommended to our sympathy on behalf
of farmers who had small or no capitol; but what
*add be said of any similar rroporition by which it should
he proposed to mulct the meaufacturers or the north for the
benefit of neadecturers withoutespital in the south ? (Hear.)
You ought to endeavour to secure to your farms men who
have capital and great spirit in agriculture. But for
do not
4o this. If • farmer comes to yen, and asks for • farm,
drishing to make stipulations—which may be called stipulations
of a momenta' character—such is thin he )ball plough
and grow as he likes, that he shall have every creature that
lives upon the nod, and that he must not have it infested
th game ; If such a um canes to you, you don't no him
a tenant : bet is is the sensequeno, of Aft trade that you
eat introduce such pdscipleshisesonr future arrangements
Eraeeetta laadlerd and teasel. Cheers.) Now our ra-
tion Ls admitted en all I bane, to be more
and tangible than that of the hon. mem-
,ber f,r Rasknighomehire. (Hear, bear, and "Oh," from
the proteatimins.) He has some forward as a chancellor of
tateaois the framer of • bu4gatt ; b
eta it is clear
he is ealy a novice in this new work, use he has
not shown wMats he is going to obtain the money which be
i wishing to remit In that shape of tomato*. I suppose, judg-
ing from what alight hints fell from the hon. gentleman,
that he means to Increase the income tax; or the hon.
baronet, the member for Lincolnshire (Sir M. Cholneeley)
stye that a fixed duty upon corn will serve the purpose as
well. (Hoer, bear.) But let hon. gentlemen beware how
they turn their attention to the question of the re-impoaition
of the duties upon corn. (Chests.) If you do as, you
are tamping that which, I believe, is m inspomible
as the repeE of any set which has parsed this home in for-
mer times. You might effect the repeal of the Reform Bill
or the Catholic Emancipation Act probably in the same ses-
sion a that in which you re-impose the duty upon corn.
(Ckeere.) Take care what you are about. Honourable
gentleman fancy that there is a lull in the public mind ;
that events abroad have frighteeed people at home. Bear
in mind that in all the European omits* • system is being
established which will have a strange effect upon the minds
of people in this country, who are looking, and wisely Leit-
h& to great and permanent changes in the constitution of
parliament; and that whilst your conduct is eaccutaging
such ideas, you are leading the farmers of England in the
purseitetthat false and uncertain light which must land them
hereafter in the midst of difficulties much grester than those
which eccompre them at present. (Cheers.) You talk of the
experiment of tree trade as though it had failed, or was but
an experiment. (Cheers and counter cheery.) I ask, have,
you not legislated, aims the oldest amongst yen first came
here, in favour of protection and with the view of
keeping up the price of oorn ; and do you not recol-
lect that under protective laws in 1836 the whole average
pries of the year for good wheat—not sprouted wheat—was
but 39r. 4d. per Timm., whilst now, as we're told, sprouted
wheat is sold at 425. n quarter. (Cheery.) Because that
'Mem was abolished you have wreaked your vengeance
upon a minister. You have scattered a powerful party, you
bate shown an anger which political parties in this country
have namely ever exhibited, Mame through the power,
and I will say the patriotism, of the minister wham you dh-
carded the industry of this great and growing population r as
moped from the pressure of that screw, which, through the
medium of the corn laws, you had laid' upon the necematies
of life. (Luc! cheers.) I Mar that hon. gentlemen °pp-
site are not aware of what is passing in this country.
Throughout the great towns that question of the reduction
of expenditure which we have placed before you is exciting
the intenscst interest ; whilst in every meeting of farmers
the same cry is echoed. (Heir, hear.) The men who
thought us their greatest enemies, are now ready to shake
bands with my hon. friend the member for the West Rid-
ing. They are anxious that that great Justin should be
done to this country which we advocate, and that you
should force upon the executive government the greatest
possible economy, compatible with the publics exigen-
cies. (Cheers.) You say, tauntlagly, that the govern.
ment is about to follow the advice of my hoe.
friend. The fact is that you will make my hon. friend
a most extraordinary man. (Loud, cries of hear, bear.")
The right bon gentleman opposite followed the advice of my
bon. friend; and now you say the preeent government are
about to do so also. And why is this ? It is because we live
amongst the people—because we have travelled in every county
amongst them, and know their feelings and whhes—because
we are ideatified with their desire,, and have been returned
to this house by great and free constitusueise. (Cheers.)
It is ea this account you find that the measures which my
hon. Mend proposes have the sympathy of millions in this
country; and I warn you that not many sessions will ran,
before on, powerful as you are, will vote for the measures
which he recommends. (General cheers.)
Mr. NEWDEGATE sold he shoul I vote for the proposi-
tion of hie hen. friend the member for Backs, which was so
comprehensive in its general views, and 'Oust in its details
He thought that the proposition of his bon. friend was well
timed, for not only was there at this moment a heavy
burden upon the rate payers of this country, but it was likely
to increase as the price of agricultural produce fell. (Bear,
bear) Believing that, under present circumstances, unduly
taxed as the agriculturist were. they would be unable to
compete with foreign producers, he should vote for the
motion of his hon. friend.

Mr. B. HERBERT, after adverting to the severe distress
in many agricaltuoal districts, and to the cause of that dis-
tress, which he considered to be the result of a peculiar sea-
son, net the Importation of foreign corn, considered how far
that distrees could be mitigated by the plan of Mr. Disraeli,
which he mulled as defective, in leaving funds contributed
by the peeigft peemily at the disposal of boards over whom
they lert no castrol. air. Disraeli had, moreover, developed
only half his plan, and the least difficult part; he had not
disclosed the mesas by which he would supply 8,000,0001. to
meet the demand upon the general fund Believing the plan
to be unwire and impolitic, he could not consent to robe
false hopes by going into einemfttee, where he had no :sewn
to think that theplan could be natured.

Mr. CAYLEY observed that the hoc. gentleman who had
spoken last bat one had said that no complaints bad arrived
from the north of Eastland. To that he could give a very
direct contradiction. (Cheers from the protectionists.) He
bad received slitter stating that a large meeting was about
to be held in a very important agricultural district, with
which both the North and the East Riding of Yorkshire were
connected, couplainiug of the leases which the agriculturists hodsutaied. was add that the prospects of the harvest were
better in the nos* of England than in the south; but had
the north of England no reason for alarm, when they knew
that the better half of England had sustained a great loss of
sop Was ft not a seasonable ground of alarm that no
higher price was given then 4fis ? On all other onasions,
during the 611 of the ries in 1320 and 1822 ; during the fall.
of the pries in 1834 and 1836, hap at least was left at Ole
bottom of the box, that with the revival of trade therewould
be also a rise in the pries of ogriultural pprrooduet ; but no such
hope now remained, bemuse, notwithstanding the deft
l of Inge, no rise of pries had taken place,
arridaeLsast sat be ihrgettan that the rise of pries in 1822
and 1836 took pines under the great burden of the worn
laws. The hon. number he Manchester had assumed that
he only spoke the asses of the people of England; be (Mr.
Carley) represented • oesilitemisy as numerous as that of
the boa. member. To we thing he could bear situ's, that
there was a great duke ea tieput of the agricultair4l=
of this eountry to join in OUamt to redoes the
tare of the country k to redoes the tuatica, because they
found that the taxation was no louse tolerable considering
the price of produce. Than was reason for the agricultural
body to make them conqkdats; but his surprise wee that
the manufacturing body mode three sompkints. Why did
they complain of taxation The mormatile body never
mule these kind of complaints unless the shoe pinched some
when or other. Was it the oboe of feu trade that pinched—
or was free toad. about to answer, and the country but too
rumour, and the hoe. member for Manchester about to
we us this trial, that when free trade succeeded we aauugght
be enabled to my, " It is sorbse trade that has saeeeeded,
but the diminution of taxation that has caused this
prosperity)" It was the distress of the manufac-
turing districts in 1837 that led to the agitation is, the
repeal of the corn laws. Depend upon it, it was some sund-
ae& or distress that led to the agitation for dussid reform.
Had not the motion of the hon. number for the West Riding
terminated so suddenly—he (Mr. Oayley) not wishing to
make up his mind until he had heard both sidea—the dispo-
sition of his mind was to vote in favour of the motion of the
hos. member. For himself he should have wished to have
waited a little longer to see how free trade worked, bat he
could not forget that there were others not so capable of
bearlo the 'eminent, whom capital was melting
away. (Bear, hear.) Free trade held out many
promises which it had realised. It promised a
reduction of the prim of. corn—it W./sallied that. It pro-
mised a fallen revenue—it had realised that. It promised a
diminution alike impute—it had realised that. It 'wombed
a failure is the irakend the retail trade—it had realised that.
It promised a diminution of employment—it had realised
that. (Hear, hear.) It promised the decline of wages—lt
had realised that. It proadsed an increase of imports—it
had realised that. It promised an inertias, of the diet on of
Ireland—it had realised that. It had promised an imam
of disaffection and discontent in the colonies—it had realised
that. Then was no potato rot in the colonies to explain
the failure in trade and agriculture which had taken plus
in Ireland. We were told that firs trade, right or wrong,
was to be in. Then he took it for granted that
in spite of amvieted of error, this house would deter-
mine to perusals Is that course; but if it wee to persevere
in free trade, mho such steps meet be taken as those which
had been promsdigated by the hon. member for Buck-
. There must net only be a great
estillarri en bat there not be a rand and not careful
resides of taxation. (Kean) His hts.hind the member for
Busiderbeaddre bad emderesseed to dew bow the snout
of mimeo was iodated is Dedheishira and earione aunties
of MlOnd. He wound is know whether the right how.
aesthetes bad got an moon of all the rest which had boss
inneised I. those manias been se, to make good his ergo
none, by shield pros whet whereas the pear uric had boa
re, die Nat bed horneed. The.
hoe. Mamedaid end that con theCont:oat theme werhigher
tans on hod; his (Mr. Cayley's) laitenatioa was
very Merest foes Mat He held Ia his band
an Winne an
by a competent woos.
The ealealedem la srbkh he woes adman of the
expos* adisileg the oldness ef wheat in Northern
dervelay, aidllin mole en the Negroids& den the number
O arable ewes wea igismovo. The tun Imes tee some
number of sores to Misread ran an Wrens el 411 per gent.
The tone sight be said of Antrim, which issafty pa-
used equal adventages over us is the
_eallherhe of all
cereal potion He believed' that the 011.1110 w of the
liscimener had, threegbeat hinpsech, shah= lbw
side* et bin *milks asabecis
Ha believed that tbat hes arbor nimbi to Into
sli WON_
ismci *like pond . mon
laud: -Ml:ittgr far ens Would ast go sofa-
nide@ the noshes win any other in-

teution. He should take the lib.rty of ea— ie.
of the house to the weight with whisk the lean *la%
stamps, and ammeed taxes pressed upon the eigentitile,
soil, at least upon the landed interest, beams he sele":„
reason for separating the landlord from the taunt ia th,,
Sim gib question. (Hear, hear.) The segos dathe,
eluding the tax upon British rpirits. and the tam namehx
d.
and hops, amounted to 10,366,0001. There was se
upon sugar which prevented its cultivates. That
we
cultivate it was proved by the feet that 1681. had eel,,,La
last year as an Excise duty upon it. Soap paid taitize.
and bricks 605,0001. If to these items were added %eV:,
upon stamps for deeds, fire assurance, and he stave
it wield be found that the landed interest had to 4461414
Wilhelm at 17,119,0001. Neither must they forget %bil
from the cultivation of which they were prevented, Tes
called for a revision of all these matters, and dermadel that
if we were to have a free trade, it should be fres nos, h
everything, leaving the farmers se unfettered as the cab
menial and manufacturieg interest& (Hear, teat) xf
they ware to compete with the foreigner they should is
fresillesa those dues* whisk left us at disadvaatageta es
cost of prodsetien. Sugar was ea article of peat
Lion with the farmer and labourer, why should it btillsZt
(Hear, hear.) There wars heavy taxes upon a great se.
articles el corsamption, all of which premed
British' prehrear, and diminished his eapa •
competing with the foreigner. If they were to straws
free trek, let it be a fair stand up fight. (Wu
In them days of many budgets he might perhaps be incet;
presumptuous if he proposed one, bat as it appeared to Wei
that if the British wades's' was to compete with hi
, he should be relieved from all taxes apes Mew,.
tretrdatice upon tea, sugar, and tobacco, aught be legad
upon in that light—he would submit a suggeniee tea.
house by which, in his opinion, that object sigh is
effected. As he was net for increasing the income tee, hi,
less it were brought down to incomes of 501. • yew, ih
proposition would be to have a system of inland revenue. sA
Foment the consumer was taxed upon some ankles
the amount of 600 per cwt , and 'generally upon art ieles g
consumption at rates varying from 20 to 600 put Net
Now it was stated in a my able pamphlet, which lug ha
lately published, that the femme of this country wee New
thing Itke 485,000,0001. per annum. If, by a system of ie.
land revenue, a tax of 10 per cent. could be raised en ran
wage produced—whether corn, or cattle, or menthe*
or commercial produce—the moment it entered into en.
sumption, it would produce a revenue of some** pkg
48,000,0001. The consumer would be relieved array*
while the farmer would get an indirect protecting dwy gut
per cent. upon his corn and cattle. He believed that Kea
system like this bed been carried on in Holland for opiate
of one hundred years, end that it existed in mtly pad
the continent ; and he now threw it out to the harm is A.
belief that it would afford more relief than any sail"
which had hitherto been pr
The Marquis of OBANicad
replied
at some leap* to*
speech of the CUANCELLOg of the EXCHISQUII/, Waked%
as he proceeded, the arguments in support of the swim
With respect to the malt tax, its repeat was desirable, is rho
revenue admitted of it, and he thought it possible gut, a,
duty on corn and foreign commodities, the malt dal Ng*
excise duties might be repealed. Reread various steamy;
showing the extent and operation of the distress whet pa
veiled amongst all dames dependent on agriculture, me it
clared his conviction that, it the motion were earned,*
measure would benefit not only the agricultural, bat the
commercial and manufacturing dawns.

Mr. GOULBURN rose and said it was illlpalaji
to have listened to the course of the debate 1.1.0
having observed that great changes hid taken plre is de
course of it in the views of those who bad supported thews.
position then before the house. He had listened to theist.
member fer Buckinghamshire with that attention whimt
powers of eloquence and argument always commend* e.
which was due to the temperate manner in which his arye
meats had been sustained. The proposition of die b.
member seemed to be that he intended to relieve the red
property of the country from the burden of 6,000,00614
taxation; that he proposed that charge should be bassi!
the .consolidated fund of the country; and that
suggested the means by which that Taman
the consolidated fund was afterwards to be Beppu.
namely, by a property tax. Feeling this to be the sash.,
of the speech of the hon. member, ,he (Mr. (bulbul) Irg
relieved from the necessity of observing upon it by the shh
answer it bad received at the hands of the right hon. yeds
man the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Hear, hear.) E.
if be wanted a confirmation of the opinion that it weds
tended to impose specially on funded property a chary.
the real property of the country, he need only rereads
speech of the hon. member for Lincoln, who seconded 6
present motion, and who told the house that the fends,.
liable, on the ground that, in themselves, they indurated*
ability to pay. Now, against this plan he (lb.
Goulbure) would not now enter his protest. He had entered
it on former occasions, and the house had then speed
him ; and, indeed, never would be believe that an Esglit
House of Commons would be so dead to all that wash* to
public honour and credit as to make a charge upon 'Mal
property which they did not impose on every other die*
tion of property in the country. (Cheers.) Then the he.
member for the county of Somerset got up and stated Oath
i was not prepared to adopt an income tax in order to meetthi
deficiency created by the hon. member for Buckinghuadin,
but that he was in favour of an equitable adjutant.
The hon. member for Bornersetehire said he wished tea .
here to the law of the 43d of Elizabeth. He (Hr.
burn) had no objection to that law; but he must tell de
hon. gentleman that the enforcement of it, as laid down la
the law itself, end as enforced immediately after it es
7.would go no way towards supplying the deficiency of
0,0001., which the plan of the hon. gentleman the ess
bar for Backinghamshire was calculated to produce. lithe
hon. gentleman looked at the state of this country at tie
time that the law of Elizabeth was passed, he would,.
that throwing this burden upon whet he called the pit
leged classes was an idea which entered into the led
of any statesman of that or any subsequent reign. It is
mained for the hon. member for the North Riding of Yak-
shire to tell them how the de fluency was to be supplied.
With aspirations to greater dignity and fame than even the
hon. member for Buckinghamshire himself, he promeleand
• would r

a mew system of taxation-altogether, by witch he_ N.
lie,. the people from all burdens—not only of corm,
excise, andatunps, but of highwa) and county rates. lb
hon. gentleman wee, however, in point of figures, a little b
fortunate in his first nosy of Chancellor of the Exchrqso
He told them that the property of the country amounted*
some hundred millions, and that be would not take tts
tenth part of that for the purpose of raising an income, bit
that he would lay ten per cent. on the withe consumed k
every individual in the community, which would produw s
sum of 48,000,0001., and that sum he considered would if
sufficient for the purposes of general taxation—still barbel
deficit of 8,000,0001., which was to be supplied by him win
he had more time for maturing his plan. (L laugh.) lb
hon. member confessed that he considered the excise es
abomination, and the most odious of all impost., at the sues
time that he called upon them to impose an excise rte
meet odious that had ever been thought cif it
any country. Hew would he levy his tea pee emL
an the articles consumed by army individual ? le order es
do so he must have an exciseman, not only in every valor,
but at every man's door else his plan would fail by the in-
finity of evasions to which it would be subject. He (Nr.
°Gotham) objected to the proposition of the hoe. member
for B because he would not go into a ono
mitt*, of the house touckiaghsmshire, arrange a system of taxation withoet
having some definite idea of what the change wen to br-
otherwies that thinge would be attended with bey
trona consequences. New interests that had grown op maw
our system of taxation would be destroyed by its endibli3'
abentat. Interests, for instance, that had grown rip
without taxation might be ruined by having taxes sodded,
imposed on theta. If they went loosely into a committee of
the hawse, merely *maiming that a change was to tab
place, they would give rise to expeotatioos on one side that
taxes woad be withdrawn, and give rise on the other te
prehension of taxes to be laid on : so that betimes
the hopes of one elms of being released ben
taxes, and the fear. of another that they valid
be made the victims, every interest which the question of
new taxes could affect would be paralysed. He could sot
view the subject otherwise than as one of great danger
well as difficulty. If the assertion made on one aide that do
real property of the conntry ought to be abs3lved from taxes
and personal property charged, be met by an asertim
on the other side that personal property ought to be fres
and real property taxed, he most say that es*
a course was only hying the foundation of 1
conflict between two great clause in the community, withile
if en by that house, would lead to a coestant silo
Lion ands, which would terminate in the dismal ad
perhaps of both. (Hear.) If they consented rep
into a oomnderde of the hobo, they must also be prepared to
transfer frean the local bodies to the general government 111
acheinittasties eat local affairs. (Hear.) The hem moshe
for Horsehide. had eulogised the yeomen IX theta War
mai end kilts of badges ; but them qualities well**
:=gadase thallet of having intrusted Weed authorities the
sif their own Whim Them sethceitist
would be de lloyed ; for no Chancellor of the Ezelievar
would permit se weeny as 1,200 bodies to draw upon the ten
solidated Dead to pay the charges of their respective districts.
On these wads he rested his aapp ition to the sedum
If there were inequalities or Irregdap 'ties charged upon tan
county rates, the remedy was not in going into a committee
of that house, but in taking can that there were MP*
publics bodies is regulate those charges, and not throw then
on the shemhime of these who had no right to bear then
He decidedly wed to RO intoa committee, the *set d
which was to Wm 7,000,0001. of taxation off one elms for ths
purpose of relmpariag it on another. (Hear, hear.)
Lord J. RIIIIBBLL mid—lf I could prevail upon asyn,
to vote for a eammittee of the whole house, as recomassom
by the boa. member fee Buckinghamshire, it would be feimt
a moths of eadmily to me what his plans are whirl we
have bawd spoken of so bravely, but of which we haw se
distinct idea. livery one sapped from the 'Ma of If
hon. gads= that he was &eat topropom an merwas
the inane tax. A most important interest in this ommtrf
is in a Mete of distress. No ems denies that distress. Thu
Chancellor •et the Becelimpier admitted it fully r•'".;
fug • peat Nodes el the osuatry. The first 114L.7
the homm gestlams k to take off 6,000,uum
et UMW, and it was undo :stood that an theme
tax was to be the satistitate. Hy right hoe. friend mowed
mint emeelmively, that by that course the bon. genitalia
wool either take off a considerable sum from the landed in-
tend 10 pat it on siZaarticalarly upon the °mue,—
• hear)—er he eimadt a breath of faith whop
.ie quite impeadble W himeeesiald give its emend to.
. hear.) Then, after having the boa. gentleman Pb',
cz.disdasroa. tun whale duo, the MIL Mei'''.
duchies that Per IA pass so each rims,
far as es Moon* test is conessiest, is in oxitemPllow'
Bet although he gives us this inkinestioa, he does act".
as whatteies is by whisk this hew meant of income Is
to be supplied. It is a • way, these boo, pottiont
who are the confidence of the Dem. wet, and in DOOMkal_._....
of the *sent, did not reveal it, that other hon. gosime"