The Express.
London, England, 1853-04-19 00:00:00

to M c meisterea le, if the bemire Ms free be gentinsed shall I make • great stride toward• that which I hardly know knw
it Ali., "••• eat. oiled ? (Hear, hear.) And the views of the to appreciate in money, with reference to its bearings on
"mt.:went are that the late eansinietration were i the future intereas ot the three kiagelorne, namely the ea.
not when they stated that it the Immo tat wag • tabliohment of the pried& of equal taxation fur all.
to contained the exemetions under it ought I (Hear, hear.) Hun. gentl.•nten will naturally ask what we
to be narrowly censiderell. We prumose to consider those mean to do with the arrears, and I have only to edi that
esompteont. There' are drone ',mous, when we are going to oar pain is this—that all aereare in respect to oemolietoteil
mote yen, to remnant the impoitien lit the income tat ; minuita e due up to the 29th September lan, Amulet be
ea ail pearmne with incomes aMive lief. •ear en. us to' paid just as they wouldhave been if the law had
whether it is Lot demanded by justice to that contined in home; red, on the other bend, that
gam, that we should likewise comet that these who Sr. " nothing shall be cheesed state the 20th September
peoemeaut Memo. he tweet. 1.50/. and 10PL should heir a last ; and any sum re coiled since that date shall be repaid
moderate share ol the burden. of the tax. It is the opisioa .to those who have paid it, so that we may take etre that
of the government that that would he enty just, and we the paying damn Mull obtain nn unjust aeirentege over
r ,;ear eo lot to complicate the tax as to introduce 3 pro. the fleas that have paid. (.. Item, hear," and cheers )
noes that in toe care of incenses between WO/. and 10.'. I dim% know whether I reed leilame accounts more par-
s veer they 01.111,1 ho liable to a payment of 64. in the titularly between Englend aid Ireland. W. are inviting
rind during the whole period that the tmehell continua you to remit a capitol Wille!i Wag nearly 4,i00,00rt., and
oleo. iluriou the first period which I have proposed which is still above 4,efeelleeoa. We ate inviting you to lo-
w ,a.a. rat tag. will be euhmet to a rate of 74. in the pound, mit so annual 'Marge which is at present '115,U110/. a year.
sae deviser the wasted period to • rate of G.I. in the pound, , About three-fourtba ot that charge are to continue under
derma the wh..le time enema,. betas. a 100/. and tall. will ; the present law for 43 years. The other t 'earth continues
lea he ..heed to a rate of 51. in the pound. Tarte is for shorter timer, varying toms between 10 and 30 years.
sir thee "at mooti a with regard to exemptien foon the • The anietion that we preps, to lay in Ireland wout.l for
te,, ie. tee, and that is the exemption of helmet. (Hear.) ' the first two years be cougolerahly greeter the.. the taxa-
-As bon, toemater on the opposition tide here made • re- " tion which we propose to take off; but, if we look on to the
m;rle ores. the oh:ea— 1 .bosh! have said thet tee sum time when parliament will he in the e titian to part with
at whir" I estimate the receipt hula this portion of the tat the income tax, Ireland will be in the rejoyment of remise
ig a year, but of this only 115,0 t 0.. ran be credited ' scot.. much larger in the shape of consolidated enmities
tae the present veer. Then, as operas Ir.land, we know 1 than she would be sohject to for solditionel duties. So
"e, ems why tee Mame I.x should not for the temaluder much for the ease of Ireland ; toad now I have done with
of the term few which it is to be impesete be levied on I that offensive portion of my t ole, the imporiatia of duties.
that (enroll, when it is coneiden el that Ole his received • I (Hear, he it.) I feel as they say we. ate wont to feel, and
rest perms/ of the benefit which bas arisen from that re- some of us have felt, that it is an uphill task to get to the
mosiou texatent up so the present time, awl .eoaselerieg tip of the Alps. Now I hums got to
II deouoterd road,
Mew further rem inn which we shall poor—pro Tee pr e• and the phin of It caw is be re me. now come to the
Mee of the Moon- tat, when !ere el in Ireland preeeely ! more agreeable subject of tee reneiasion of taxes—the re-
mathe name contitione as them under whici it will he j niaoiun of taxes which up to the pre old moment, no:
'viol in Enta mil. I have estimated at 160,060/. • year; but from °teatime'', but under a CO4l i.. 14 of our pollen duty
m the toe eta not he levied until January in met year, we have thought it our obligation liteatilly to decline ac-
he
laraerea, of tier half year will be only 23.0,0007. I will maim to. (Hear, bear.) The Mot remisai.on of aam that
Ai., the gnome roe it etenita with regard to the income I shall pommel has reference to the rani.". &pedant. It
tax , now reere.Cd I ettilltale the tat. as it now Vandal, is itnimeible, air, to denv the great evil. that are coaneeted
an,h,,et deductems, et a 510,0001 taking the deduction with the amp tax. It has been asserted th a there is a
86", from the team feel& aseurancee, which would be wile interval between the premises and the conclusion it
taieeee. onlv Sic the present hall year, thug leaving a I say that in order to extinouieta the slave trade you must
total of .1.1910 od. The estimate of the RIM tteiVnble repeal the soap tax. (Laughter.) lint the connection is
ham the „siemens of the toe to income+ below more intimate thm many gentlemen might imagine. The
OW is la-attel/- and the nom Irmo its capacity of Africa to produce poles oil is almost uarnee-
ex when to Intend is calculated at 230,000., tearable. You have one of the great m aerials tar a trade,
the t ea; mounts to :atria:oM. I now come to an import. and if you will only relieve it from its shackles I believe I
ant aulnitetation texatena to which 1 must invite the may my that the capital, the energy, and the intelligence
sprach are ntion of the committee. It is one of Treat ino of the country are such that this trade will bear away the
...rib:A*. and inreve s cc-m.4unit and considerations palm in this particular inoluory. (Leitehtera The grew
of loath order. I have dated that we propose by increased amount received for the present duty i. 1,397,M10/. The
taxation to ent lig.: our hie:ono., with a view to Tasking drawback and allowances ',mint to 271,00,11., leaving a
further beneficial eh nac. in our fiscal system. That is one net receipt of 1,1211,000/. The coat of c alection is 15,0e0/.
object. Out there is another object likewise, and n moat The net lust Will be 1,100.000/. Wi:h r. gaol to
feoporeont um; and that to, that we may be enabled t a meet the reduction of all excite duties, it is always
a near"! in tee public mind wbish we fully recognise and necessary, or generally necessary, to fit a date ter
in welch we shim, that the operation of the income tax its taking plate. The clay I believe mint can-
bear, hardly on income derived from intelligence and ekill, venient for this purpose will be the 5:1, 44 July. There
as compared with income derived from property. I have is a certain amount, there is already a certain sum slue. I
mad my inability to meet this inequality except by have given you the net amount fore series of years. I
booking up the tea, and we are f opinion that in taking ought to Aire you those hearing on the present year. There
such a course we *amid he guilty of it great political blunder. is a sum due tor the qusrterjua excited, not yet collected,
If you are of opinion that skill and int, lagehee pay too 140,000/, and probably tar the preteen quitter about
Duce to the income tat as contrasted with property, we 20C,0001., so that we should this year hay, 310,000 i. for the
believe that these Melina by which we equelise that burden, soap duty, and the net hoe on the soap du. y for the present
are teeth ma. and honourable. The genetic* of the legacy year will be 771,0001. Iconic usat to the stamp duty, and
duty—(lend cheera)—is a question which it is perfectly under the stamp deity it is het possible for the
plain comet be tt.mieeed Iron the consideration of the government, with the means in their hands, to
hence. (Rear, hear, how.) We propew to retain the deal with all the articles. Th. re are articles, such for
scale of emoiniminity with one chenpe—,Mr. i.;!,t here example as the duty ea fire irstuandi and the duty on mw
wade an observation, which we did not catch, to the right rine insurance, en which. they would be Oat if they email
bona gentleman.) I think we must deter that ;mint, for to grant a remission of taxation, but they have made the
if we toga into it there would probably he a duellism beat choice that is in their poorer. One sueject which has
between the hon. gentleman toad me, which might naturally presented itself to them both in connexion with
imamate. ntly cross the course of the general statement. the income tux and likewise other taxes hearing directly on
(Laughter.) We propose, I say, to noon the belle of con. prudence, and especially on the prudence of the poor, is the
sanguinity, sulgeet to one mitigation. Coder present tax on life seeurence. It bone very he tally upon
that male as it now exist., relations by affiaOy are the money of the poorer climes to effect these insurances,
treated af etrangero. Thus a eon-in-am. er n daughter• although it is not a very heavy tax it, itself. It is at present
in-law pays ,nly at theatre of tee per tent. We propose to about 2s. 64. per 1001. Insurance. We pronese to reduce it
place such relation* on the footing of re lotions by blond, to 6.1. The proceeds of the tax are 40.001. The ina.
(Hear, to We propose that the exemptions of nil pro• mt diate loss to the revenue will he 211,3401. We pro-
perty shall no longer operate, subject, however, to pose nest to deal with an article that is at pre-
certain eunditiens. For the present, leaving this matter sent in a state the most unsetisfectory, and that
for !weber cal.! onetime, I will only state, that it is our is the stamp upon receipt.. This is a duty that does nut
view that all property eheeld be included under the grow as it ought with the transactions of the country, a
legacy duty, and Ora some remissions should be duty that is evaded whoasale—a duty that lam hound to
grantee' in favour of that property which is now my. entails very consiolei able inconvenience to the cc nimunit y.
subject to a great weight cf exceptionol and peculiar It is not the mere question of the change but of necessity
taxation. I have no doubt, so far as we have been of dealing with particular papers stamped with particular
able to inlet...igen the can, that lam not exaggerating amounts which you have to send for and to get upon the
when I say that th.a tax, it adopted by the house, will add occarion. These are little things, but they enter very much
600,0001. mare to our permanent means in 18a3-4; will add into the convenience of the people. What we propose is to
700,0)01. mare in met. 1; 400,0001. more in It 5-6 ; nuke an entire change, and to adopt a oysteni analogous, so
and 400,000/. more in 18'16 7 ; m eking a total far as the charge goes, o, that system which bas answered
addition to the re raiment mean; of the country of not less TO well—the penny postage option: name ly, n system of
than 2,000,0001. p o annum. (Cheers.) And this tot, I penny stamps. We 'propose that by a peenyestionp
venture to sulmat to the committee, as • fist which would mooched to documents, and written over upon those
leave wholly untouched iutelligence and skill. (Cheers.) stamps any payment whatever, as distinguished,
It is a tax that would give the relief, and more than the re- of course. from negotiable instruments, any payment
lief that you aim at by a roennstruction . f the income tax ; of money may he made lege!. The *eject may appear
but it would give that relief without the danger., that the small, penny legislation, but our belief is, it would enter
attempt at such a reconstruction must in our opinion lama- very meteriaoly into the convenience of the trading classes,
ably ceceatin. (('heers.) and although the first toes of revenue and the total abolition
Mr. DISRAELI—That is for the three ? of the present receipt stamps amounts to a very comidere-
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—A general ble sum, tai,oooL, we think that is a loss the house, for the
theme in the law, ul course. The present homy and pro. sake of the great convenience which will be the result, will
bate duty takes to cognieance of any distinction among the submit to.
three coun.ties. 1 now, sir, proceed to another subject. Mr. BRIGHT made an observation, which was inaudible
A object of policy, i( it could he atraineetnrould in the gallery.
be Llie equalisation of the spirit duties. Our interment would The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—Yes, it is
be, with respect to Scotland, that Is. should ba added to the proposed that receipts, instead of being as now, fur sums
mama spirit duty of Is teol., the malt drawback to remain above 51., 3i1., Gd., Is., and so on, we propose that there
as it is at present. The consumption in Seotiand is shall be a penny elem., which will be made use of the same
7,170,000 gallon..—(laughter) ;—and the actual ee as a ?Wage stamp. We propose to make a change with
is, I think, 1,31i,0001. Tne expected revenue would be regent to a class of indentures of apprenticeship,
1,633,000 a; and the gain ie318,0001. (Hem.) We also pro- which are termed indentures without consideration.
pose to the committee to levy an additional duty in Ireland This is one of the se taxes a high at present
of 9d. • gallon, menet also to a reduction of auother produce very hale, the Stainp-office returns de not enable
40.0001. on account of was on spirits in bond. (Hear, us to say how much. The charge at present is 204. We
hear.) The gain upon the Irish consumption atter the in- propose to reduce it to 2e. MI. The nest subject which I
crease would be 219,000/.; and making the deduction of shall mention is one th.t ie popular with the majority and
40,0001. for the allowance for waste in bond, the net gain unoopular with the minority. It is the case of my noble
from chit item would be 194,0001. The bet gain front an friend (Lord Hobert Orosreuor)—the case of the attorneys.
increase in the spirit duties with regard to both countries Sir, I must confess I do not think that that vote of the
would therefore be 476,0001. But I believe it is quite House of Commons would of itself alone have justified the
necessary to make allowance for ,the waste in England, as government in proposing the remission el this duty, because
in Scotland and Ireland ; not so much fur the sake of the we feel strongly that the vote of the house given on a par-
English distillers as for that of the Scotch and Irish dia. titular duty is given on considerations atteehiug to that
tillers, to whom it is a great object to bond spirits in Eng- particular duty, and without a view of the el ame of other
land. I accordingly propose to give them also an allow- , duties. But we did think that on Carillitieratiou of changes
mace for wait' in England, which autd entail another which of late have been made, and which have tended mute.
deductiou cf 40,0001. a year, and so leave a net gain Melly by the direct action of the law. to diminish the bush-
only of 436,000/. a year. (Hear, hear.) There is ma of attorneys, there might be some remission of taxation
another small auementation of the revenue, which I have We propose a remission to the amount of about 50,0001.,
to propose, and that is upon a certain claw of licenses. If but we are not satisfied with the proposal which has been
hon. members will examine the system upon which the pre- made by the profession. Tte profession is at present sub-
sent scale of licenses is adjusted, they will observe peculiar jest to three charges—a charge on the admi6ion to be an
inequalities in their operation upon the mire r and the attorney ; secondly, a charge of certificate fur metropolitan
greater tradesmen. We do not propose to touch that most solicitors of 121. a year, and of h/. a year fur country 'encl.
important question with respect to licensee connected with tors ; and a charge for articles of clerkship to the enormous
the sale of spirits, wince, and beer; but we propose in re- amount of 120/., which is paid though the person may die
gaol to the licenses of tea dealers, coffee dealers, brewers, or prove iucompetent. New, sir, the profession has said,
maltsten, tobacco manufacturers and dealers, seed soap te Take the tax off the annual certificate fur the benefit of
makers, to sand a new scale of licenses, raising them at those who aro already in the profession, and leave those
the upper end, so as to make them bear a fair ad raiment who have still to enter the profession to pay precisely the
proportion to the rote at which they stand at the lower end. same amount. He did not think that would 1w •
(Cheers) The minute details I will not specify, but the fair mode. (Laughter, and " Hear.") Having made
results may be ibortly stated. The gain from this increase up our minds that we might propose with pro-
of licenses would be 113,0001. Aad, therefore, air, I may priety to make a remission of about .50,000/. a year,
now present to you the whole amount of the increased we propose at present to apply it in reducing both these
Lies available for the crevice of the year 1843 4, which we duties. We propose to reduce the certificate duties (tom
propose motile. Upon the income tax the increase well be IV. and fit to 91. and 61., and we propose to reduce the
Tao,oool. Upon the legacy duty 600,0001. Upon spirits duties on articles of el. rkship from 120/. to 801. The lam
436,0001. Upon licenses, 133,0001. The total is 1,344,0001. by these reductions will be about 50,0001. I come now to
which with the surplus of Sela,oool., would give us for the the question of advertisements, and with regard to that
T•0311410I1of taxes a sum amounting to 2,149,000 L (Cheers.) question I hope the committee will not consider that it ine
But, sir, I must not proceed further without slating very dieates any disrespect in the government, a majority of the
briefly the state of our account with Ireland. The coin- house having decided on the abolition, that having the
mitt,, bus heard that we propose to impede the income tax, same object in view and desiring to bring shout the tame or
in a modified form, at descending odes, on 'relied as well a more effective alleviation of taxation, we, having been
at on Elm land, and the tax of 84.1. on spirits in Ireland led by our examination to the belief that there is a better
may. PeArips, be taken as an equivalent to another tax of mode of proceeding than that which the house adopted,
between6d. and 7,1., after allowing fur the waste on sta • in think it OUT duty respectfully to submit that mode
bond. But we have referred to that cam which I lately men. of procedure to the deliberate consideration of the house.
boned, of the heavy charges left on property its Ireland in And it is right I should say that the plan lam now
respect Pi consolidated annealed. It was the opinion of the I about to state, was a plan which the government had
government that it was impossible for them to arrive at a adopted at the time of the debate on Thureday last. (Hear,
final decision on that important subject—involving from hear.) It may perhaps be mid " Why eel you not my so ?"
4,000,0001. to 4,500,0001. of the public money, and involving My answer is this, it was from no motive, uo desire to prac-
so much in regard to the social interests of Ireland, to the too an undue reserve, it was became we felt that if the
rapidity of its recovery from great distress, mid to the executive government is with advantage to the country
harmony of the future relations of the two countries, until ordinarily to discharge the functions of the initiative in
we had considered what would be the general balance of regard to finance, it is absoiutely necessary that the strictest
the finances which it would be our duty to recommend, and shence should be observed by government, not in contempt
what wooed be their hearings on Ireland. We have now of pressure, but yet, notwithstanding pressure, until the
recommended measure*, which if they are adopted— time arrives when the iutentioas of the stemmata can be
as I trust they will be adopted -by the house— made known.Wbat we propose with regard tuadvertisements
will advance us one great step towards the is this. The duty on advertisements is 181,0001. We pro-
principle of meal taxation througbout the three cuu :tries pose to reduce the duty of Is. Col. to the sum 4461. [Mr.
(cheers) It is true that the income tax we propose is a Gibson: Oh, oh The right hon. geutleman would not
temporary tax. It is true that we shall show you that there wait on Thursday last for four days, mid now lam afraid he
fs a botenfide intention, and reasonable pooped that if pato cannot wait for as many minutes—(laughter)—but
lemma thinks fit it need be only • temporory tax. But at I make that moderate demand. What we propose
the same time we do not wish to impose that burden on Ire- is to reduce the duty or. advertisements to Gel. Instead of
lead without considering the great necessities of large pole taking off the remainder of the duty on advertisements,
boas of that country—(cheers)—and we are convinced that instead of repealing altogether the penny stamp on the news-
when once we come to the consideration of these paper and the halfpenuy stamp on the supplement The
necessities, the disposition of parliament well be towards loss upon the advertimment duty and upon the stamp
a large and liberal measure. (Cheers.) We must not on supplements will he 160,0001. 'lnc only other
consiner that question of the payment in the consolidated change whichwe pregame to make in the stamp duty
annuities as a mere question of munea. You must consider is contingent upon a bill of my hon. friend the Under-
all that it represents and all that it involves; the reeollee- Secretary of State. Ile proposes to effect a redue
tion of the famine; the peculiar characteristics of that fon in the rate of fares of hackney carriages.
awful visitation; the feelings of England towards Ireland The tax to which they are at present sub•
and of Ireland toward England, which, I thiuk, it is eve- ject is very heavy. The common cab pays no
dent will play more fairly and will have a more kindly less than 10s. a week. We think it hut fair that th re be
tone, the less that we hold the position retail:or to each seine remission of that tax, and we propme to reduce it ,
other of national debtor end creator. (Cries of about one-third—one shillings day. Tt.e less to there-
"Oil, oh.") Approaching the subject is that spirit, venue will be about 26,0001. The relict afforded by these
the a...nem:neat have determined to make to parliament a various remissions wet be ahem. 420,0001. Tie cost to the
lane proposal. Of the Laoll,oool. which the consolidated revenue I will state presently ; but I am ha hopes it will
annuities represent, 1,400,000/. (I am mein; the round not be so much. We propom also to the house
mailers; comsat of debts which strictly belong to the tout- that they should endeavour to make a reform of
Ili.! ment of the poor law in Ireland; a great social and tee assessed tales. (Heir, hear, hear.) That is,
great national change, a great arid met good to Ireland, I have no doubt, acceptahle, but the operation is not an
and, bite every oth r good to Ireland, as Ile lime, also a cosy sue. If it is to by effected, you mutt eroceed on three
great b neat to England. (Oh.) 'lie other 3,C;00,0001. tuiticiples—the abolition of what arc c. Ile I progressive
sterling (moist entirely of debts cooneeted with the famine. duties ; the abolition, probably, also of compositione ; and
A committee of the other house of parliament has sat on also, if not the abolition, yet the 'lmola a'o Aaiun, of onto
thet subject, mud has recommended a remission of nary exemptions; and the substitution of rotes of taxatioc
2,000,0000 of this übiipation. Now the pi on of the go- which seall be few, simple. mad as nearly as pessible
laue-
moment, after maturely coneielering the whole question, loan in their Murat:ter. What the geveinmeot will pro-
au.l c-e lithe r taen Pecuniary elements involved, pose will be this—instead of the Orient duty on servant,,
is t' "Prep- •to aarlia.nent that from real utter the 29th of lh.t.tiTtOlUg for one servant at 1/. 6• tel., am running up
lad September th, eunseadated annuities swill tie wholly wards to a great variety of amounts, ,71., promote an traitor=
swept away. (Sensation, and some cheering.) We propose duty of one guinea for each, servant above 21 year. of age,
that tie whole earn which remains due Scam Ireland to end of 10s 6d. for each servant under 21. On t' rivals car-
Enelati et dl be miniteed, while, upon the other hand, we . tinges, instead of 61. 121. on taut-wheeled carriages drawn