The Express.
London, England, 1849-03-02 00:00:00

localities the machinery of the church restaged such as it
was 45 or 60 years ago. It was with a view of improving
the orgsnisaties medal tarrying into sot the principle sad
practice of the perssidel system, to enable the church to die.
charge the duties the peshesed to diedemge, art es Meese
what in fact she prelims& te be—the atehl shed ohm* of
the country, that he was &bent te mem he the emmbeies
of which he bad gives sides. ZS meld haw atessilme
briefly to the facts of the ewe, whisk meld shme beyond
dispute, bow truly teredshe ft wee that the perwhial
system could be audestiste effect arida the wend alai-
sides. Now was it possible, that in a math wasisting
of
100,000 seals. a vicarer rester, as the bead, any part
of the systm weld be minded cot. (Cheers.) I..et
Meantime
as
half-warn of these downy
000 populated
Timm w Diezylebase, esile el
se
1104411 Pile H =5:
AN 111,000 ;
lissewher, SWIM ; St. Paacree,
140,000; awn moue emir Illeenene populations ;
but ft would be etweved that slime every one of thee,i
ashes Ise had tried untamed mgmbillems he 'zee
thus of may of the baba eginde& Hew, tbeh was t
peedble that the parochial system amid be elieweed amidst
popelations se dame and sovaried dieragese sad posi-
tion ? He would mean that the evil be emplaned of was
twofold—first, in respect of the peareebil omen itself ;
soundly, is respect to the Wieder doggy who offielaud
under the rater ea visa in suck dardrirra. What did the
parochial system regain ? Certainly Mat the mishit et
the head of the wish should bar* the people with
whose spiritual he was gigged, sad he known
by them—(howt hear)—that there should be • con
-
stmt interchange of good offices between this—that he
ahead be able to ahabeister to them in all the IBM
ad seethes of the desteb—that be should toka miasma
aid espodaMsdesee grebe di.uict generally, and minister,
set eddy le themisiinal, bat to the racial and moral wants
el hipspeekhismare—(hear, hear)—that be should, in
gamy be waded administer to their secular as well
as theirn om atemesitise, for in nothing sou the pa-
eashial whom duly carried out, mow valuable or
mine seadaelw M the baguets of religion than in 'mai.
the aim le easiest sad advise the people is the hoot el
their acciesity. (Hear, hear.) As it was, the minister Is
the large, densely peop'ed parishes we. not known to we-
twentieth of those who were committed to his charge.
speaking, the minister was only Itnelet
=S % appeared in the vestry on litigated game
NNW ea In the pulpit—for all papaws of the parochial
agellie be was powerless. And those who differed with him
mast admit that, seder the present distribilea, the pa-
nda' Iffeellm was thfrootabir anpossible. He would lam
the peat midi of M. Panora, as forming a geed am
magi of tieembeie es matey—wherever large popsletiens wen
brought•agelher is me parish. The population a St. Pan-
ora seen mime et 140,000 —• populatioa greater than that
of the while wenty of Westmoreiand. of Bedfordshire,
WS of Heinen& The population of Westmoreland was
only 66,000. of Dediedshire 109,000, and of He efeed
114,000. (Hear.) And there were yet many acme in St. Pas-'
ergs net sweeed wide buses sow, bat whish, if London cot.-
timid te sand he Sidle se npidly as it had done of late,
We be de in war few yam, sad which would then add
eseehalt, eg pedals Amble as steak to the popi6ation as it
us pmegag maimed. Awarding to the received computation
abide seimmeddism was nquized in every district for ou-
tfield el the whale population ; and aceordie c to that tele
Ht. ?Mem 'head sew have accommodation for 47,000.
Ae trmi'lewever, there were 14 churches and chapels in
that providing aesommodation for only 17,000. He
sbald
observe that the estimate he was new taking referred
be the sendition in which St. Pancras wee two or three years
eget Mohr* Dr. Dale, the present vicar, introduced his re-
hash (dear, hear.) However, it afforded • good mom
piiittliss of the state of those lugely-populated paddies in
gesetil. But in mein of the reforms which have bees
elheted, and which, notwithstanding the great benefit which
bad resulted, sad lett the perish in a most imp erect state,
ha wished it to be observed that they had been so effected
only by the applicati in of the same primiple which he now
proposed to make universal. (Heara) As he bad said previous
to the lamina-tin of thew reforms. St. Paaciao provided
church aceestmodation fcr only 17,000 pause. The number
of clergymen in the i wish, for all menial and district
duty, ,mounted to 18 ; consequently, if the population were
equally divided, each clergyman would have had the charge
1.000 souls. But the distribution was by so means equal
and 'it 'did so happen that 12 of them clergymen had the
charge a 120,000 souls, or 10,000 each. It was impossible
too highly to praise the conscientious and self-denying
efforts of Dr, Dale, the vicar of St. Pence's. When that
reverend gentleman was ;first installed, feeling the
vast importance of the subject, he determined to me
all his power to subdivide the parish—an object
in carrying. out which be was considerably thwarted
and oxperrenced numerous difficultly,. He, how•
ever, effected it by estahlishing new districts, but in such
proportions that be found himself obliged to assign to one
clergyman a population of 8,000, to another 12,000, to an.
wile 9,000, to another 7,000. And at this moment, after ell
Dr. Dale's exertions, a vast portion of the perish remained
undivided. Look at another fact that resulted from that
want of subdivision. Take the great parish of St. Pancras,
and see the number of the children in connexion with the
church of England alias. The number amounted to
4,000 ; but it we clear that, under proper organisation, in refe-
rence to the proportion of children in other parishes, where
there was a real, an effective parochial organisation, the num-
ber should be at least 14,000, and is that he made due allow-
ance for the amebas usually educated by dissenters. And
he (Lord Ashley) could answer, from personal knowledge
and investigation thaeigg been induced to examine that
perish„ with a view to the inditution of what were called
Named • Schools) that there were from 15,000 to
20,000 children wno had no means of education whatsoever.
But Dr. Dale, by nuking that subdivision, imperfect and
inadequate as it was, had so far succeeded that he had
opened othoole—in addition to those that existed before—
giving amommodation for 6,000 children. He hold that, in
every respect, the use of St. PUMA proved the necessity of
subdivides. It proved that that subdivision could take
plass only on the spoliation of the principle for
which ha contended, and that such subdivision when
effected was followed by the most beneficial results.
Another result of the want of church accommodation
was that there wore scattered about in various parts of Lon-
don a great another of what were called proprietary chapels;
and, though all must admit the good which had beea deal
by their means, still they were not the inetitulons the
members of the churls would wish to see. Their
congregations composed of none bat persons in affluent
or easy circumstances, the great mass of the working
classes who should he associated with them in public worship
Maas either no place of worship to go teat all, or than only
in which each • separation of awes was kept up se was
saluted to hurt their feelings. Many of thew chapels wee*
&waist on pew-ante, conseqnently there were no free
dams, aid the rate clanged for seats in these was generally
ton high, for the poor could seldom avail themselves el the
aseammedetion they aff.,rded. Now, there was another view
el the matter which required serious wasideration, and that
tem the position held by the to fain clergy as respected the
at Jar . He must say that their position was not
rely in itself, aad equivocal as regarded she mol-
lies the starch should hold in *egos of the country,
They hid le • certain meat, and in the same respects to
their ishrises, the power of the bishops. But in other re-
=they had the vespoasibility without the power. In
gibs it would be well both foe the church and them-
Wise *a this anomaly should be removed, and a greater
umber dimness having the care of goals and twpossible
emir lathe bishop of the/limos should be appointed. He
bed elserved that the present orguasation worked inju-
ries* i respect to the
.parochial system—and they would
age that in these large lamp where there was no sub-dai-
des the affairs of the parish mast be administered by •
vest or rector assisted by numerous curate* reepseshie
him. Now, this was not a desirable state ef thigh Is the.
fleet pies the number of mums was seldom meal te the
&Nogg, their position was not adequate to
ctellamrpera,
of the duties devolving upon them Hear,
=1.1111111.1.0 held that the present
oersted isjorions.y to the parochial system est le the
embeedisate clergy. Let any one go fate time Imp
densely popolatid parietal, and he would lid
ge ammeleis sad precarious m the position d the ttebsNF
min deep. If ten cf thew dergemes were seemieed, in
Mee moral or other the main (driest would be tillidest.
He bed teethed anmercus eammanieedems from thew
:7. He had selected some few whisk would afford a
111esinstead the condition of the whole. One reverend
gwelema wrote, " 1 have exactly themes duties devolving
Was Ile ell the view has, but lus oompalled to receive and
egemmit Ida fa all feet and offerings." The amount, this
gentimem sail,wm roamer* amomeat'sregani—last year it
wee esmelhig lees than 71 , but it is the principle, the mark
of tabaiseljt6ared the being awed is a different position
tcrsz (exiitstaletyljebelleted laanl of Us.s
• clergy
wend t to, rather this disturb the church is any way.
but it Weeds tin a great meaty the holism of those who
were slaw their ministry—who, whoa they sew that the
over them was only as it were a substitute for
teoliChi ti , whom all the fees and offeriEtmeare
es paid over,
they dl net Tigard him in the um though he
were the sole and responsible party to they had te
isse as their pastor. !Hear, hew.), Certain assume of
, having collectively 200.000 souls under their
rig:rade promoted • memorial to the Aretb:shop
of tabury. and also one to the noble lord„
ntgisthat the subdivision of large populous pa.
to independent disttiet parishes would- strengthen
the elegreh and reader it more silkiest. • similar resole-
ties had been cane to by a large parties of the clergy al
Tor having the charge collectively of 176,000 sods; and
be their memorial to the Archbishop of Toth was
received by that functionary with the highest approbation
and mentesess a eoneurrenue. Another beembat wrote
te him (Lad Ashley), wise "ay position he this district
affords a sating exemplifisation of the seerwity for some
relief. With a population of between 12,000 and 14,000
under my charge, I cannot marry say iins In my
churl, a even without the visa's peres baptise a
child, or cinch a woman " This was a case is which
they should interpose to derive any cm of the
pewee a interfenng in this way with er. (Hear.)
Again, he added 'All registrations Rest be in themother
chetah, and imagine what mast be the coneequeoce of that
In es met • population." One evil atfisg of this mula-
ttos, besides the Inconvenience of compelling the Puiltdcails
',papist distasce to the mothereherehores that it actedas
an inweeragewent to clandestine maims, and it would be
found that in the metro?, lig as elsewhere such marriages
perrally took place in those large pariahs* in which, at the
mother church. where she ceremony was ob:iged to be
roomed, the parties wen usetwarily unknown. LUC-
that wrote : •Neither marriages nor burials can take
place in my church without the payment of double
dam, although the parch chug& of the district is
three miles off." Another said "The people hers are vexed
by double rates ; they hove no °ligation- to lay a church-
raw, but they wish to pay for the church of the district
where they live." (Ham) Another clergyman stated: "I