The Express.
London, England, 1849-06-05 00:00:00

totted ; and, while the latter would be disposed of
i rapidly,
a
is the settlement of the former the son Off
would have the assistance of all the courts in Ireland. The
general operation of the bill would be to enable landlords to
perform their 'nisi duties more effectually. One effeet
would be to introduce a new class of pirebseen. What woe
especially wanted in Ireland at the prawn time was security
for the invennent of capitol, and it would be afforded by
this bill. He and, before sitting down, publicly ettprese
his gratitude to hie esteemed friend Mr. Coulson, wines
peat ability end legal lessor/lees had greatly Rosined him
Solicitor• General) is introducing and forwarding a bill
Intended to effect refuse which were essential to the rep-
aeration of the rights of property is Ireland. (Hear. hear.)
The house then divided—

DoT ~me~am:at l2
Against ft
The bdl wen then nod • third time.

SUPPLY.
Oa the mottos for song into cosuettteo of npply,
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Sir H. WILLOWIEIBir sold Ise wished to pot Wipteetion
to the right be.. genHoman, the Chasseilor of tisExeltequer.
Is the report of the ONlMiltell oaths oderolleseeoe estimates
which galled session, it was stated in the lest that
the Chancellor of the Exchequer having toritd the estimates
with the utmost care had made reductionsto the sueount of

246,0001., the total amount requited being 3,700,0001, ie
Mead of 3,946,0001. It now appeared from Use papers laid
on the table that 3,946,0001. had been spent. He would be
glad to have this apparent ineensisteney explained.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was under-
stood to reply that formerly it was customary M vote the
pose amount without including the fees, and that in the case
rewind to the vete included these.
The house then went into committee et apply.

The kllowing rates were agreed to: 110,1171. for super-
annuation. and retired allowances, sad compensations to
persons formerly employed in the public ennui 4,1001. for
Toulonese and Coral= emigrants. In, and American
loyalists; 2,0001. for the National Vann, Establishment ;
2,0001. towards the support of the Refuge for the Destitug.
Oa the proposal to grant 8,9901. for Polish refugees and
dirrened Spaniards,
An Ron. X said he thought it was bighting that a
stop should be pat to these Polish grants. Everyone must be
aware what a prrannent part the Polish anion bad taken
during the past year in the affairs of Europe. No one
who had watched the coins of avant/ could be ignorant that
no revolution had bracts' out in any country in Europe in
which the Peke bad not taken a pennant sad dlitingunbed
part. (Laughter.) No doubt there were amongst them a great
many excellent and worthy men, and amongst the number of
such was a Polish nobleman who had distinguished himself by
his benevolent exertions is the sister country. At the same
time he thought the house and the country should be made
aware hew the money voted annually was spent, who re-
solved it, and how the distribution was osanaggd—points ca
which they were all at present la perfect igneranes. If
any bon. lumber would co into the lobby with him he
would certainly divide against the vote.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
house would renumber that last year be promised that it
should be made into the circumstances of thiiime
sad that these names which had been improperly r ed
should be struck off. His don. friend the Beeretary to the
Treasury, with the assistance of the Lords of the Treasury,
bad made the promised inquiry. The result was that several
IMMO bed been straek off ; in other eases the parties had
resigned; sad there was • third claw, below a certain age,
to who no ellevranem would be made beyond the year. It
would have been • very herd measure to have street all the
names off the list at once. In regard to those who had no
means of nssiateasam whatever, and who must either be
maintained by a palish or by the nation, he thought it was
tar better to continue to them for a time the allowance
which had hitherto been made. His hem. friend would per-
ceive from the estimates that the vote had been reduced
from 10,7001. to 8,9901., and after this year it would be re-
duced to 2,8001.
The nut vote was 6,4231. for miscellaneous &newsman,
to:steely defrayed from the civil list, the hereditary re-
venues, site., for which no permanent provision had been
made by parliament.
Mr. LUSHINGTON said that early is the session he bad
given notice of his intention to oppose suck portion of this
vote as related to the dissenters' Regimen Datum, and he
bad fully intended to carry out this announcement, bet find.
deg that during the melon the din enters themselves had
taken so steps, by petitioning the house, to strengthen his
hands, he should net proceed in his opposition.
Mr. WYLD could assure the bon. gentleman that the
dissenters of England were as decided as ever in their oppo-
sition to the grant, and they had only abstained from yeti-
tioning parliament on the subject because they considered
that as parliament was sow constituted their petitions
would not much avail them. It was certainly a meet ex.
teaordinary thing that year after year parliament should
vote • sum of money to babes who repudiated it. As
to the grant itself, were it really needed and solicited,
the amount given was absurd, insulting. If divided among
the ministers of the three denominations who alone partici-
pated in it, the amount received by each would be just
per annum. Unless an matinee* were given that this
grant would not be renewed, he should at oace move its
rejection.
Lord J. RUSSELL could not give the assurance required.
So far from the grant being repudiated by the &miners, it
was most gratefully received by Dr. Rees and the other
dtstributers on the part of the recipients. It had been
annually distributed since the time of George 1. *moos
persons whose necessities rendered it a most acceptable
charity, and he could not understand how it could be
denounced as as Insult.
Mr. J. B. SMITH sail that at all events the government
should furnish a list of the recipients, that the rublic might
jade* of their worthiatea At present, nobody knew upon
whom the benefactors were bestowed.
Lord J. RUSSELL avid the government could give no
list. The government did not themselves know who the
recipients were.
Mr. BRIGHT snared the boa. member for Wes' minsar
that the dissenters had la no degree relaxed in their an-
tipathy to this grant. (H.er, hear.) He considered it
grossly uneonititutional on the pert or the Treasury to die.
pens* this amount of tuition without, at all events, fur-
nishing a periodical list of the recipients. It was not at all
the Met that this sum of 1,6051. sun distributed among more
than 1,004 ministers. He did not believe that there were in
the whole country 1,000 ministers so necessitous, and, even
if necessitous, so menthe to accept the paltry 2.15. mentioned.
hear.) As to • lis: of recipiosts, most certainly the
first list famahed, ot actual miniests, would be the last,
fee no congregation would permit la minister to retain his
same on ouch a list, but would at once take steps for reliev-
ing his ascertained necessities.
Mr. W. J. FOX repudiated the suggestion that any dis-
senting minister found worthy of • congregation needed
such paltry alms.
Mr. KERSHAW said that one of the denominations
which had credit, or rather discredit, as recipients of this
wretched alias, gave every year to one single society more
than 50,000/.
Lord J. RUSSELL thought it would be sufficient if the
minus of the distributing committee, of three members a
each recipient denomination, were annually laid before
parliament.
Mr. BRIGHT said people already knew who were the
eight or Line men forming the committee, and people also
knew that the real distribution and patronage altogether
vestel in one or two active members of that committee. The
noble lord, who himself was reputed to have at one time at-
tended a dissenting chapel until he was frightened out of it
by hon. gentlemen opposite—(groat hughter)—ought t 3 be
better acquainted than he seemed to be with the sentiments
of .tisseaten on the subject.
The committee divided—

For the !rant 52
Against it
?dr. J. B. SMITH asked how much longer the descendants
of Sir Thomas Clams were to have 500/. per annum of the
public money. Since this preposterous annuity had been
granted by Charles 11., the descendants of the grantee had
received mere than a million sterling of the taxes.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
the grant was originally payable out of the hen ditary reve-
nues of the crows, which were clearly at the disposal of the
sovereign for the time then kin,. 'These hereditary reve-
nues had sines been given up to the public for a considera-
tion, but given up with all charges apart them ; and the de-
seetdante of Sir Thomas Merges were es much entitled to
their annuity as any gentleman in the house to his estates.
The grant was then agreed to.
The next vote was for 1,0001. to defray the expense of the
Foondling Hospital, Dublin.—Agreed to.
The next vote was for 12,0331., to defray the expense of
the Houses of Industry, Dublin.—Agreed to.
The next vote waster 8001., to support the Female Orphan
Asylum, Dubin.
Mr. FAGAN objected to the exclu,iveness of the appra
rimiest' of this vote, which was entirely devoted to pro
testante.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE said the objection was well
grounded, but every year the vote wee diminished, and it
would soon disappear from the estimates.
The following Vail were then agreed to :
2,2501. for the Westmorland Lock Hospital, Dublin.
8001. for the Lying-in Hospital, Dublin.
1,6001. for Dr. Staievens's Hospital, Dublin.
3,8001, for the House of Recovery, Dublin.
6001. for the Hospital for Incurables,
37,1831. for sou-conforming, seceding, sad protestant die,
minting ministers, Ireland.
7,0964. for charitable SUOWILSON mmaideration fund,
Ireland.
1,0001. further, on account of the Metropolitan Senitasy
Cesandallon.
14.7621. for the 0 I Board of Health.
2,4171. for the Central Board of Health, Dahlia.
16,0001. for one moiety of the met of works of navigation
and &eisags in Ireland.
OHM In works and repairs of the British ambeenthe's
keen at Pais.
WOOL >IK rebuilding the British ambastador's house at
ConstoMhoegin
160001. he the militia and volunteers in Canada.
The OMAXCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, is answer
to a quail= put by Mr. V. Barra, said that this vote would
digs peem Mem the estimates pretested to parliament after
Apt% ISO.
1,3001. for liokdiosses at the Bermase, Cape Ran, Table
Valise Seeds, He.
he the lomboar of reap at Lybita.
tie esker theorem of the emoting:Mt de.
psolment.
OAR to provide for the half-pay and supeeennuation
alimeneses.
The Czhismax mend that he do report pogrom