The Express.
London, England, 1849-09-07 00:00:00

THE BERMONDSEY MURDER.

EXAMINATION THIS DAY.

The examination of the Manning, wet resumed kola, at
11 o'clock. The court was not nearly so crowded as yester-
day, not, as we und, resod, from any abatement of the
public curiosity, but from a greater s•ringency in the regu-
lations for admission. The bench accommodated a could's,
ab!si camber of viiiitora, amongst whom were a good many
ladies. The only person we recognised was the lord mayor.
The prisoners were brought into court at 10 minutes post 11.
Meaning looked ill, and was allowed to sit. There was little
or ere. perceptible alteration in the appearance of the female
prisoner.
Mr. Bodkin, at the commencement or the proceedings, an-
nounced that on the part of the crown he wet prepared to
secede to the eppl•eetion which had been mode on the
part of one of the prisoners, and to postpone the trial to the
next Oetober session.

R. Walsh examined—Wu servant to a person named
WeLs,a muter bUld.r. Remembered a Innen caning to
Yb mater's yard on 2.3 rd last July, to order a bushel of
lame. The male prisons!. was the man. Mies Wells, his master's
daughter, wee pre•e-.t. Wien. se took the lime to No. 3,
Miuver place, on 25th July. Baw the male prisocer, who
t.• 14 him to paw thsough to the kitchen. Witness delivered
the lime iato a D■skes which was ready in the bask kitchen.
He gave witness nothing that time. Mrs. Massing was not
there when he took the lime. Saw ter the next day, when
she gave bins stinesh'ng. He went for money which had
been promised. Mrs. Manning opened the d.sor—scarcely
• panted it, handed • in three haltpeace, sod closed the door.
sited panted. That wee in the morning of the 26th July.
Cr. ss•rxtained by Me. S domons—The three halfpence
was ',Urn on the f/ liming day. DA not know whether or
not it was Ws. Manning "ho gave the thr.e halfpence.
(Witness lo dud at Mrs. &finning.) Could not swear that
she gave hint the mosey. It we. a respectably dressed
woman. The person who gave him the money was not
opt,e so tail as Mr. Mannino.
WAIL CAM examined—Was shopman to Mr. Lumley, of
Tooley stseet, irs.nntorger. Hlsma•t.r a Id shovels. The
shop is af.ut a quarter of a mile from Mine, r plane. He-
lmuth red selling a shoed to a [.mat: on Wednesday, tee
B<h of Aug at. Had seen that tents's! since. It was
Mrs. Manning, the priaocer at the bar. When she
came she said she wished to purchase a @lrma. Witness
showed her a dust steed, hut she said 'be wished for a long
one. Witness asked her it Mu whited for a long handled
o e. but she said she would nuke a short one do. She pars
chased one. She gave (mute-repent* for it. There was a
little bugaiaing about it ; the first price wits tifteeupence.
Had koo en Mir. Warning before, She was in ,hc ohnp '
about five minutes. She &rata it to be left at 3, blinver-

Cromexamined by Mr. elomous—Delivered the crow-bar
on the 28th July, at halt•put 4 in the &keen An. It was
opened by the female prisoner. Had never seen her sines.
Recognised her in the dock. Ceuld positively swear she was
the party. Saw her only for three or fuer minutes at the
door, bat would undertake to swear positively she was the
person who took in the chisel.
William L M 162 examined—Was a police constable.
Went to No. 14, Bermondsey-moire. Received a shovel
from Mrs. Bainbridge (the broker's wife). Witness pro-
duced the shovel. Notioed various marks of mortar on it.
On further inspection obeerved a substance which looked
like congsalod blood, ashes, and human hair. Some of it
had sines been removed fur the inquest. (The witness was
here cautioned to take great ears of the shovel, as the matter
which remained on it might require to be carefully
examined.)
Cahill was recalled and identified the shovel as the one he
had sold to Mrs. Manning.
T. M. Lockwood recalled, and examined—Saw the crow-
bar produced. Buppoiing it to be five inches longer it inialst
have inflicted the injuries observed on the head of deceased.
Very probably the sharp part might have inflicted the incised
wounds. Had seen the substance adhering to the shovel be-
, fore. It looked like cinders and clay. Saw a single hair
when he examined it before, but thought it too long to have
belonged to a man.
Thee. Adam, examined—Was a pawnbroker, Ns. 171 and
172, Bermondsey.street. Did not kuow the prisoner,. Never
had dealings with them to his knowledge. S..w them in
court, but did rot nasals* them.
Charles Bainbridge, examined—Wu a dealer in furniture
at 14, Bermondsey equate. Had known the prisoners for
about two months. Witness went to the house, 3, Minver-
place, with a Mrs. Hornby. NVoot to look at turneture.
The next in. ening went by hiin.elf, when Manning told
him the furniture was sold. Witness undllne was sorry, as
he could have given more money than any one else. Pur-
chased them We Monday following. The remainder of the
witness's evidence respecting the furniture was a repetition
of what he had stated at the inquest. Monolog told him
that a young medical student who bed lived with him, and
went nth. r ton last, wanted to borrow 101. on his helpful
certificate. declined to lend it. Aft,r Peeing be
should go into the country, Manning further said to witness,
"You have apartments to let, I could come here and stop fora
fortnight" This was alter witness had purchased the furni-
ture. Manning desired Vilna= to tend hie servant for Mrs.
Manning to see the bedroom. Mrs. Meaning did not come.
Maantag said he had started his wife off in the country.
Amongst the things witness bought from Manning was a
shovel. The 'hovel produced was the one purchased.
Cram exendn, d by Mr. Solomons—Removed the things
himself. Did not remember to have seen a broken shovel.
There ware two, but both were perfect. Waa not present
toe whole time the things were being removed. Can not
swear there was not a broken shovel. Went into the cellar,
and saw four or five hundred weight of coal.. The shovel
was in the possession of witness for nearly a week. Believed
it had been used during that time.
Mr. Solomons requested the clerk to take down this
answer.

Mary Anne Bainbridge examined—Wu wife of the last
niters% recollected the furniture of Mincer-plan being
brought hum There was a shovel amongst it. Witness
identified the shovel. It was used in witness's house to shovel
op some cinders under the copper. Ann ng the things
brought were sue female dresses. Witness gave two drums
and a pair of stockings to the officer Burton. Examined
particularly one of the dynes. It appeared to have been
washed out hurriedly and scorched in the drying, and from
being put away before quite dry it had mildewed. Remem-
bers the prisoner Manning stopping at h, r house on the
night of Monday, 13th. Understood that ho had taken the
lodaings for a neck ur a fortnight. On Wednesday, lfith,
quarter before 8, a.m., he went away in a cab, and never re-
turned. lie took a truile and a carpet bag. Manning •aid
he was going era bathing, and that his wife had left a
satin dress. Witness found it along with the drew pro-
due, d.

na.Birk examined—This mittens, on being sworn, gave
the book x loud smack, upon which the female preamer
smiled. Was driver of a heckney cab, which had been en-
gaged by Mrs. Manning. This witness's evioexce had been
given before )
Wen. Day examined—Wan porter at London-bridge sta-
tion of the Loudon and Brighton Railway. Identified Mrs.
Manning as the pereon coming with Bona, boxes on the 13. h
August. Witness ticket. d them "Mrs. Smith," by her di-
rection. The major Fart of this witness's evidence was also
a ra
tpyeioun. examined—Was a clerk at the London-bridge
stain. Reins mberell taking two boxes to the cloak.room
on the 13th of August. Witnesslitit tickets on the boxes,
and gave eorresgondiog tickets to Mrs. Manning.
J. Haynes examined.—Was an inspector o(detective police.
Took poeseeeion of the boxes on the 21st of August. They were
addressed " Mrs. Smith, Passenger to Paris, to be left till
called for" on each. Withers produced a silk dress upon
which there appeared several spots of blood. The body ap-
peared to have aeon receatly washed. Witness repeated the
evidence respecting this dress which he bad before given at
the inquest. The other articles put in proof were two toilet
cover., a piece of muslin, and some papers, among which
was one purportiog to be toe last will and testament of F.
G. Manning. Witness proceeded to de'sul his proceedings
at Southampton. Boarded the Despatch steamer there on
the 31st August. Found the male prisoner there in custody,
and brought him by train that evening to London. Did not
hold out any inder.emest to prisoner townie's. While tra-
velling Msnuirg sold, " Have you seen my wife ?" I said,
"I had not." I cautioned him, saying, "This is
a serious affair, Manning; I'm an Meer; dm's
say anythiog to me that would prejudice yourself."
He said, " I am perfectly aware of all that. I was very
foolish to go away; I ought to have stopped and explained."
He then asked "It I ught he should see his wife to-mor-
row ?" Witness answered, "I did not know, but I thought
not." He said, " 111 can fee her in the presence*, a monis-
trete and clergyman she will confess all. It was her that shot
(Moon r."

Mr. Solomon* here objected to this being received in evi-
dence egair.s. Mrs. Manning.
The maeistra•e thought that the observation was not ad-
missible in avid• nos.

Mr. 13-Akin eontended for the admission of the wort',.

Mr. Solomon contended that it was a btatenteut made by a
man sgainst Lis w ifo.
The Magirr de raid it would be of no value against the
wife, but would be received against the male prisoner, as
ebowing a I/laity lvinwledge of the murder.
Witten pros-edell—Manning sail, tt It wen sbe shot hist
had invited ham to dinner, laid the cloth, and shot hlm u
she was etalktug behind aim down stairs." Mauling further
said he had of en been afr tid of his own life from her viv:ent
conduct. He it di that O'Connor had iaduced them to take
the huts! is M.aver-place, he premising to come and lodge
with them. They bad laid out 301. in furnishing the haute.
That he (Mat.ning) was out of town at the time, and when
he returned his wife said O'Connor had only sl pt there
one night, and meant to bruit his agreement. She said she
wee determined to ha revenged on him. 'When be said
O'Connor had been shot, witness observed " It appears fr
the p rs tiat there were a great many other would,' upon
the heed." Manning made no reply, but appeared low
spirited.
Crom examined by Mr. Blocs—Selene Lingby and
Lackey were in tt.e carriage wish Lim. Ilia °Nett was nut
to lead the prisoner int t conversatiun. The conversation
lasted until w: arrived at Ba•iogatoke. Lurid not tell how
lens: the canners aim 1 sted. It was telout various anbjectr.
It wts attarwards resumed, and lasted until they came to
London..

ifr.Bians.—D:d be sit next to you, or did you sit next to
him (lout lluettsr )
Witnrse.—l s °spelt& to Lim. B. was awake and lively
all the time. Witness pied. wise minutes en the previous
Tonic'st the sign, st of Mr. kli-ywood, Mr. Es.clkin's clerk.
Trees wee no one in we house but his wile and etulor.n.
Itsd seen le. gh y and Lakey taut morning. Had not
shown them Lis minutes.

EXAMINATION CONTINUED.
E. Langley examined.—Wes sergeant in the detective po-
lice, A division. Had bet n employed up to the 27th Aug.
in inquiries respecting this case. Aerie, d at Jersey as the
24th. L-ackyer was with him. Visited Prospect-house,
Jersey, on Monday the 27th. Found the prisoner Manning
in bed. Lockyer and witness immediately secured Idea.
Manning said, "What ace you all about here ; are you
gong to murder me ? " Had kfiown hint balms. Witness
made himself known. Meaning said, " 06, sergeant,
I'm glad you are come. I was coming to Loodose
to explain it all. Is the wretch taken ? " Supposing he
meant his wife, he answered, "I believe she is, but I don't
know only what I see in the newepapera" Manning said,
" I suppose they found a great deal of money with her, thir-
teen or tourteen hundred pounds" %Yawn answered,
" I don't know, but you must consider yourself in custody on
the 'rocking charge which took pit* at your house in Lon-
don." Meennin r said again. Oh, Ima explain it ell when
I get there." Witness told L-ckyt r to put the haat:cuffs en.
Manning sai 1 he hoped they w. uld not be used, but witness
sail he must do his duty, He proceeded to the gaol. In
going there Manning said, lam perfectly innocent' she
committed the murder." She invited him to dine ,t and
he came when the cloth eras laid. She 'asked
him down stairs to wash his hands, and when
at the bottom of the stairs she put one hand
on h s shoulder, and shut hint at the back of the head
with the other." Capt. Chevalier welted Manning what be-
came of the b .dy. He answered, " She bad a er-ve dug for
it." Witness remained silent, nudging C.pt. Chevalier not
to seek questions. Manning again spoke to witness at the
gaol on the following morning. Witness cautioned him,
saying that what he said he (witness) would be bound to re.
port. Manning said he was perfectly innocent, and could
ex; lain it in a few hours. Witness proceeded : While I was
OD board the Dispatch he asked me *kinks! if she wu to
confess he would be free ? I said that. as an officer, I most
be excused answering that question. lie said again, "Abe
must confess as soon as she sees me. lam sure she will,
especially if there is a clergyman present." He then repeated
his statement as to the mode in which the murder bed been
con milted. Witness believed that a conversation took place
with Retell..., but was to* sleepy at the time to know what
it was about. I examined his boxes on Monday lost, in the
presence of Ann Armes, in Scodand•yard. In the packet of
one of the coats toured at his lodgings, I found some gun-
powder, about a charge, lout'. In the some pocket was some
tissue paper, ss if the powder had originaly been C l led up
in it. I end Haynes hew) had conversations on this matter
in the regular ooune of business.
Cruse examined by Mr. 13inns.—The object of this crow-
examination was to shell that the statements of this and the
preceding witness had teen prepared in collusion, but
nothing of the slightest importance IMP elicited. Lulls,
stated simply that he had prepared no written statement.
11. leekyer, examined I em police .constable 90 A.
I a• companied Sergeant Langley to Jersey. I was
present when Manning was taken. Wu outside the
mach when he was taken to prima. Was at the gaol en the
following morning, when a c enversation took place between
Manning end Sergeant L eegley. Manning oomph:64d of
the die,. I heard Langley caution him, almost before •
word bad escaped his lies. I beard him make no statement
after. I was ha fan hour at the gaol. I came over in the
Dispatch steana-boat. I heard Manning, en the voage over,
say, " She will never be hung for it; she did it, bet*:
Dachas of Sutherland will intercede for her and pet her
ea." Meaning was handcuffed to me on the railway. I heard
a conversation between him and Humes Hunts cautioned
him. He said that he was • fool for leaving Leaden. He
said she did it, and did it because she could not die happy
aides* she did do it, for he had deceived her twice. First about
taking the house. O'Connor promised to go and lodge, but
had not kept his promise.
This witness was also cross-examined by Mr. Bins, bat
without any result.
J. Basset, examined—l stn a clerk in the hone of Killidt
and Co., sharebrokere, 6, liank-ehambers, City. I saw is
the Letter part of July a peewit whom I knew as O'Cea-
nor. Ihe male prisoner in the dock 6 the man. I saw him
last night in the prison among twenty-six others, and knew
hum iaimeniately. On or shout the 31st July he came to
make inquiries respecting the deposal of stuck and our
mode of doing business. Ile saw near manager, and went
away. On Aug. 21 I saw him again. He spnogised, sating he
should not want to sell the stuck fur a few days. On 11th
Auguet he came again, and brought the se ck with him. He
produced it. I have ft about me—twenty shares consoli-
dated stock Eastern Counties. I asked hint Low much
money he required. Ho taxi 1201. or 1301. I said I
can let you have • 1101, and he said that
would do. I asked him his name, and he said
0 Patrick O'Connor, and I live at 21, Greenwood-
street." On that, I advanced a 1001. note, • 51. note, and
five sovereigns.The transfer was signed by the prisoner in
my presence, and I wine. seed it. I received the notes from
Mr. 11 .mmond, another clerk in our office. He was talka-
tive. Said ho was going to Devonshire, and should send me
a dish of salmon teal.

H. Hammond examined—l am also clerk to Killick and
Co. Tha prisoner in the duck is the man who mire to our
office as Patrick O'Cae tor. Witness read the numbers of
the notes in which the stock had been paid tor. When I
gave the notes to my brother clerk the man who called
himself Patrick O'Connor was prevent.
Arm ibald Onffi h examini d—l am • clerk in the Bank of
England. I produce a bank note for 1001, No. 16,043, sth
June, '49. bat note wee brought to me to be exchanged
on Saturday, 11th August. 1 cannot say whether the party
was called on to put tis name on the note. I find on the
back, " Frederick Mathis'', No. 17, New We ston•street,
B-rmondeey." I gave biro 60 ,overelas, and a ticket for
601. 1 hale no recollection of the pi nom We should have
refund to pay without au address. There is another name
on tee note, bat no address.
J. R. Adams examined—l am a clerk in the Bank of
England. I received a tick t. I gave a party in 'totting,
for it five notes of 101. each ; the numbers were 67,372 to
67,376, both Inclusive, dated 11th June in the present ye 'T.
Mr. B dkin said here that Mr. Moxhay was not present,
nor emiul t not be until the trial; tut he might nate that the
five notes he here mentioned were found on Mrs. Manning
at Edinburgh, as also the five pound note which had been
given by the stock broker.
W. Baillibeer examined—l am solicitor. The name on
the back of the 1001. note is hfanain4's hand writ'
Francis Wells Stephens 'gamin. d—l em a stook -broker.
I was acquainted with the late Patrick O'Connor. He
was ens of my clients. I delivered to him ten Sambre and
Menu' shares on the 6th of August last, the numbers were
6,460 to 6,469 inelueive. Oa the 11th of May I bought tea
B .ulogne and A.rniena for him, numbers from 48,665 to
48,674 inclusive. I hava seen them since in the Purfeeseif
01 Moxhay the Edmhugh officer. (The female pri-
soner wee made to rand tip.) Ti at is the per-
son who came to my effise early en August, saying she
had mime money to invest. See tutroduce-4 herself by sayings
she was recommended to me by Patrick O'Connor. lal
her "What ahe wished to invest " She answered,
" Stock that she could sell abroad." I suggested " Fun&
Henke." She selected Sambre and Menu, and Boulogne
and Amiens. Ste put an address "Mrs. Manning" on a
piece of paper, which I have l et. I told hart moat describe
her in the Wars as either spinster, widower married woman.
She said she wished to have some eta k which she could sell
unknown to her husband. Sae sa d she should have shares
or stock that was not registered, so that she could sell it
without any control. She said she wool.] cal again, but did
not. W'.en railway stock is not registered, it passes from
band to hand. She asked me a variety id questions having
of renee to that point.
Crosaexamiced by Mr. B dolmens—Mrs. Manning waited
on me about the Ist of Augu.t, certainly before I delivered
the last lot of shares to Mr. O'Connor. I meant to mention
the maker to Mr. O'Connor when he came, hut totally for-
got it. He did not ay that he had gut any person to ma.
Wm. Byford, examined—l am a cab-driver' N. 441.
On Wednesdav, I.;ke August last, 4o k a person from Bain-
bridge's, 14, Barmonduy square. I went to the gaol this
mornieg. I picked out Manning. He resembles the man I
took ve.y much ; that is tee man. I took him to the
ruthanip. on rallw y. He had a email h and carpet beg.
It wee about a quarter before tight in ire morning.
Cram-examined Ly Mr. Binna—lL.. many Ire. Lad you
ihat day ? That is a very curious qu, r ion to ask. I don't
keep them all in my head. (Leo Ater.)—Da you know
every fare you carry 1 I think I should know 'tau again.
(Continued laughter.)—Wes they, any.hing to make you
recollect this gentleman ? The witness replied " Yes," and
described how Manning had taken him a meat circuitous
route. _ _

blr. Bodkin said he flirt not mean to go any flatlyr that
day, and wirbed to fix a 011 for the rem.nd. Toe pro-
oedin re were then adjourned to tbs., e o'clock on tomorrow
(Saturday) week. Intimation was given that if it wee pro
poeetl W take new evideuoe, notice would be given to tles
pri• °nen' solicitors. If they rt oeivzi no notice, they might
look upon it as merely a formal remand.

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