The Express.
London, England, 1851-08-06 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 6, 1851

vernment batch. Not being clothed in the government
livery, be would exercise his rights as a member of that
boric
Lard J. RUSSELL said it was customary when a mem-
ber whose motion stood first on the paper had withdrawn
for others to follow his example.
Oolong SIBTHORP-1 won't.
Lord 3. RUSSELL thought it but fair, then, that the
Iron: and gallant member (Colonel Salwey) should proceed
with his motion.
Mr. E. B. ROCHE said it would be aln.olutely necessary
next session to mate some classification of the business of
the house, otherwise it could never be properly disposed of.
THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
Mr. URQUHART wished to ask the noble lord the
Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he would lay on
the table of the house all correspondence which bore upon
advice given to the Ottoman government with reference to
the internal government of that empire. As it was the
noble lord who governed the Ottoman empire, and as he
was not responsible there, it WS: but fair and consistent
with ministerial responsibility that the house should be
made aware of his proceedings.
Viscount PALMERSTON was sorry that he could not
answer the question. It was obvious that any communica-
tion of that sort generally passed between governments
which west, on the most friendly and confidential footing,
and, from the very nature of the case, such communications
could not he made by one party, nor required by the other,
except with the perfect understanding that they were not
' to he made the subject of discussion.
Mr. MUNTZ did not understand why be should with-
draw his motion (having reference to postage labels), if
the hon. and gallant member for Lincoln meant to per-
severe.
Lord D. STUART said bad he known that his motion
would be followed by so much discussion, he would not
have made it. He would now withdraw it. lie must say,
however, that had the motions on the paper been proceeded
with, the only practical evil would have been, that the go-
vernment would have been compelled to bring on the
Patent Law Amendment Bill atterwards. (Hear, hear.)
The motion was then withdrawn.
THE MILITARY KNIGHTS OF WINDSOR.

Col. SALMI- then rose to move that a select committee
be appointed to inepzire into the case and claims of the Mili-
tary Knights of NI laicism, set forth and referred to in their •
two petitions presented to the house on the ith of August, '
1816, and the 23rd of February, 1817, and which are fur- •
ther set forth and referred to in the petition of the 20th of
April, 1319, by several electors, tax and rate payers of the
borough of New Windsor. The Secretary of State for the
Home Department had on a previous occasion argued that
this was altogether a law ease, but he (Col. Salwey) con-
tended that it went far beyond that—for in the claims of
these poor knights the dignity and prerogative of the crown
• as sovereign of the military order of the garter were in-
volved. The veteran or arms knights, as they used to
he called, were established in 1318 by Edward 111., at
the same period that he founded the order of
the Garter, anal he associated these poor knights with the
Dean and Canons of Windsor, who wire to be their stew-
ards, granting a donation in lands, fte. for their subsistence
as a reward for their services in the wars. The mistor.une
was that the associating them with the Dean and Chapter
as one corporation—for almost from their first establish-
ment the history of these poor knights had in consequence
been that of all other bodies of men placed under cathedral
or ecelesitestical corporations—Edward 111. placed these
knights on the same footing as the canons, and punted them
Is. a day for maintenance ; but, although the incomes of
the Dean anal Canons had increased enormously, and they
had drawn large sums from the revenues out of
the funds set apart for these military knivhts,
and notwithstanding the increase in the value of the pro-
perty would now allow 2.101. a year to each of these poor
men, they still received only the miserable stipead of is. a
day, the dean and the canons retaining the surplus. Under
the will of Henry VIII., a new dictation of lands and here-
ditaments to the amount of OWL a year issued for the sup-
port of these knights, which had been afterwards confirmed
by statutes of Elizalieth and Mary. The original number
of the poor knights was 26, but now they consisted of 13
under the letters patent of Queen Elizabeth, ma! .3 others
on a lower 1 iundation endowed under a different will,
making 18 in all. 'rite 600/. a year had now icerecieced to
12,0001., but no addition to the allowance had been
made, and parliament was even called upon to repair
the houses in which these presses wee: lodged,
instead of the charge being defrayed by those who drew
I this enorn ttttt s surplus. Under the deed of covenant
• between the crown and the dean and canons, he (entrained
that the shims put forward by these military knights were
, indisputable. The hon. and gallant officer was protsceding
to read the deed of CIAO ascent, the will of Henry the Eighth,
; the confirmatory statutes of Elizabeth and Mazy, and other
documents bearing on the case, when
An nom. Meetnen noticed that them were Not 40 mem-
ber. present, and on the house being counted, and the re-
, quisite number of members not being found present, the
house adjourned at half past adz o'clock.

THE ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ASSUMPTION
ACT AND ITS AUTHORS.

This bill received the royal assent on Friday last.
It is the joint production of her Majesty's Ministers, Mr.
Walpole, Sir Frederick Thesiger, and Mr. Keogh. The
portion contributed by each is marked out in the copy of
the act which follows. The part which belongs to her
Majesty's Ministers is printed in roman letter; the rest is
in italics, with the name of the respective authors appended:
" Whereas divers of her Majesty's Roman Catholic sub-
jects have assumed td themselves the titles of archbishop
and bishops of a pretended province, and of pretended sees
or dioceses, within the United Kingdom, under colour of an
alleged authority given to them for that purpose by certain
briefs, rescripts, or letters apostolical from the see of Some,
am? particularly [Sir F. Thcsiger's] by a certain brief, re-
script, or letters apostolical, purporting to base been give.
at Rome on the 2.9 th of September, lbaO ; and wherett-ti by
the act of the 10th year of King George I I'., chap, 7, after
reciting that the Protestant Episcopal Church of England
and Ireland, and the doctrtne, discipiine, and yorentment
thereof, and iikcwise the Protestant Presbyterian Church
qf Scot/toot, and the doctrine, discipline, and goturnment
thereof, acre by the respeetire arts of union of Enuland and
Scotland, and of Great Britain and Ircland, established per•
snattently and inviolably, and that the right and title of
archbishops to their respective prorinces, bishops to their
sees, and rfj* deans to their deaneries, as well in England as
in Ireland; hail been settled and estabashed by law, it was
assailed, that if any pets in otter the roninsencenient of that
set, other tluta the persontlierminto ant horised by law, shoidd
assume or use the mine, style, or title of archbishop of any
prorinee, bishop of arty bishopric, or dean ty. any deaueu y, in
England or Ireland, he should fur evcry such offence forfeit
and pay the aunt of 1001. [Mr. Walpole's) : And whereas
it may be doubted ;Amnia the recited enactment extends
to the assumption of the title of archbishop or bishop of a
I pretended province or diocese, or archbishop or bishop of a
city, place, or territory, or dean of any pretended deanery
in England or Ireland, not being the we, province, or Mu-
' cese of any archbishop or bishop, or deanery of any dean,
recognized by law ; hut the attempt to establish, tinder
colour of authority from the see of Rome or otherwise, such
pretended sees, provinces, dioceses, or deaneries, is illegal
and void : And whereas it is expedient to prohibit the as-
awmption of Such titles in respect of any places within the
United Kingdom. it therefore declared and enacted by
the Queen's most excellent Majesty, by and with the advice
and consent of the lords spiritual and temporal, and Com-
mons, in this present parliament assembled, and by the au-
tbonty of the same, that
I. All such briefs, rescripta, or letters apostolical, and 411
and every the jurisdiction, authority, pre-eminence or title
conferred, or pretended to be conferred, thereby, are, and
skill be and be deemed unlawfill and roid. [Mr.Walpule's.s]
2. And be it enacted, that if, after the passing of this act,
any person shall obtain, or rouse to be procured, from the
bishop or see of Rome, or shall publish or put in use
within any part of the Coifed Kingdom, any such bull,
brief, reseript, or letters apostolica!, or any other instru-
ment or writing, fur the purpose of constituting sun
archbishops or bishops of ash pretended lam-Piers, sees,
or dioceses within the 0,11,4 Kingdom, or if any person
(Sir F. Thesiger's] other than a person thereunto
authorised by law in respect of an archbishopric,
bishopric, or deanery, of the United Church of England
aad Ireland, assume or us the name, style, or title of
archbishop, bishop, or dean of any city, town, or place,
r of any territory or district (tinder any designation or
description whatsoever) in the United Kingdom, whether
each city, town, or place, or such territory or district, be or
be not the see or the province, or co-extensive with the pro-
vince, of an' archbishop, or the sec or the diocese, or co-
extensive with the diocese, of any bishop, or the seat or place
of the church of any dean, or co-extensive with any deanery
of the said United Church, the person so offending shall fur
every such offence forfeit and pay the sum of 11101., to be
recovered as penalties imposed by ,the recited act may he
recovered under the provisions thereof, or by action of debt
at the suit of any person in one of her Majesty's superior
courts of law, tri,h the contest! of her Majesty's Attortuty-
General in Ent/land and Ireland. or her Majesty's Advo-
cate in Scotland, as the case may be. [Sir F. 1 hesiger's]
" 3. This act shall nut extend or apply to the assumption
or use by any bishop of the protestant episcopal church in
Scotland exercising episcopal functions within some district
or place in Scotland of any name, style, or title, in relii.tt
of such district or place; but nothing herein contained
shall be taken to give any right to any such bishop to assume
or use any name, style, or title which he is not now by law
entitled to assume or doe.
4. Be it enacted, eat nothing herein contained shall be
construed to annul, repeal, or 114 any manner affect any pro-
rilion contained ill an out passed in the eighth year of the
reign of her present Majesty. entitled—'-4n act fur the
more effectual application of charitable donations and be-
quests in Ireland.' [Mr. Keogh's.]

• Oritrinally the word• were "The geld tele, reteript, &e.;" ea
the atnettoment of Sir Yr°Jerk* Theetitr the words ' • All rush brief;
teersipts, &h." were tutotiteted.

ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES A SSUMPTION ACT

AMENDMENT.

The following is the bi 1 presented by Lord Mont-
eagle
" A Bill intituled an Act for the Removal of Doubts re-
speoind the Penalties and Disabilities imposed by 10
Geo. IV. c. 7, and II & Viet. c. GO.

" For the avoidance and removal of doubts respecting
the penalties and other disaLilitie, imposed under au act
passed in the tenth yeu of the reign of his late Majesty
King George the Fourth, intituled ' An Act for the Relief
of his Majesty's Roman Catholic Subjects,' and under an-
other act passed in the p sent year of her Majesty's rein,
intituled 'An Act to prevent the Assumption of certain
Ecclesiaatical Titles in respect of Places in the United