The Express.
London, England, 1847-02-13 00:00:00

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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—FRIDAY, Fn. 12.
The Loan CaliMlLLoa took his seat em the Woolsack at
Ave o'clock.
PUBLIC BUSMEN.
PETITIONS.—By Earl Ificrwricust Mesa InelleshiC7.llVOlvbire
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Mittthe law of *canasta, and la sada= rate.
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petition treat the toasty Weggial, of esti sr Bin
PAPERS PR/VENTED:gs
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of Ciammigaira en subject of and Wake—`ails
der eorremendeoce relative
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MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS.
A message from the Commons brought up the Destitute
Persons (Ireised) Bill, and the Sugar in Breweries Bill.
DIVISION OF BARONIES IN IRELAND.
Lord MONTEAGLE, in moving for copies of applications
to the lord-lieutenant for the purpose of obtaining a division
of two baronies, said, that although the application had been
refitted, he felt confident the Irish government had been
actuated by a sense of duty in taking such • course, and he
merely called for the papers in evict to present to the house
hereafter a preposition on which ha thought the future
well being of Ireland mainly depended with respect to what-
ever system of poor-law aseeennent might be agreed upon by
the legislature. He thought it was important that they
should look well to the nature of the districts whichsat
might cembine together, for if they We the di
wide, they would expose th be as WPM
If any bill emir }elk is I
tiPitensittirdeParture from the el tissue-bor
namely known as the Duke of Wellington's clause-he was
cure their lordships would give it their most serious attention.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE did not object to grant
the returns, but suggested that the answers of the lord-
lieutenant should be added to them.
Lord BROUGHAM had always approved of the clause
known so the Duke of Wellington's clause, and thought it
was intolerable that any question of privilege in the other
hour should stand in the way of their lordship's diecuseing
the menu of that clause fully. It might be well, in refer-
emee to Ireland, to adapt the questions put to all applicants
for relief in Scotland, with the exception of the 17th, of
which he disapproved, and the purport of which was—what
place or places of worship have you attended ? and if you are
a communicant, produce a certificate from your minister,
stating bow Jong you have been a communicant, and
what is your general character ? He thought the feeling
which originated such a question arose from a narrow err
rian spirit, similar to that which prohibited Crave llift me
Sundays in Scotland, end while upon the subject he West
state that a surgeon had recently been refused penniesion be
travel en a railway for the purpose of visiting a patient en
Sunday—a practice which did not even exist in as y part of
America, where exceptions were always made in lave= of
medical men.
Earl FITZ WILLIAM hoped that whatever divisions
were to be made in Ireland, the interests which the
landlords had in administering the rates properly, prior only
to which was the interest they had in managing their estates,
would not be taken away from them. He protested against
any principle which held that there was a difference between
the twee and the country. He wished that the noble mar-
quis had stated what he knew he felt, that in whatever shape
the measure was sent up to their lordships, they would be free
to deal with it in the manner they thought most fit.
The motion was then agreed to.
MANCHESTER I'AROCHIAL FUND.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE begged the attention
of their lordships for a few moments to • matter which,
although not permed to himself, was so personal to the Dean
of Manchester, that he felt bound to bring it before their
notice. It appeared that in the mune of the diecusaion which
took place on the presentation of a petition on this subject,
the other night, through some misapprehension statements
were made which gave rise to an opinion abroad which the
Dean of Manchester thought to be detrimental to kis charac-
ter
and to that of the canons. The imputation cast on him,
which he said he did not deserve, was, that he neglected, not
his legal duty, but his moral duty. The hon. and rev.
gentleman had written a letter to him, with a request that
he would read it to the house, stating also that he rameavedi
it would remove any sort of etyma that may attach to Yes
in consequence of his Nowresidence at °arta& periods, end
of his only paying the absolute penalty at those periods. The
noble eraquis then read the letter, which wee as follows:
My Eger lad,—having reed the repeat la the Tines of that which
was staled by Lord Stanley in the tfaaae aloe*, as the presentation
of a plinks from the three churchwardens ef Idemeester, I laid that
air pere Is the median which I. unibeathd. I= much relied upon
ey his =Male, had tees merlon= by ma, er that he game Ms-
peged, sass that ground, to esia salbsehreesr dee Wry repror of
• Wit of mil duties, theme ihsr ha or escrow lea
re, n ; rare di re ray vides ofimpl the taw. Thei
of whole Iwo bse err
. eh edify Setlt re est
' of the imy the rim yes Is hire itam• sash row re,
and rek oeshlf, or, at Iket rmy 701,, 3M., and
Mo r• from whisk he ear a coachmen
t that las Bees hop d were instil to *mount to mere
lbw boa the ire lamess. if that were true, the pOffilloo
of the ehiphi webs have hemesearably exceeded that of
the memlNsatha he them is a roaration of all their fete
rlis Is es Rat Minis= ern Moans= of • share
le Ys, W Mess rift hel so rearm es the ultimate
Beg Belie area the ire. It spies tit=, by Welt, the pro-
perty bad teem hare or im is, se it it pried little besidee
merelett hair e=rizesterjaihilorer snail the funds
might be. ea el drag talalillit
=ma= AIM OHM 011110a611 seeretentat ;0 tor whim the Income
slaould be Me e=el by reversing; they shit re the special
Mipeode yllreE, of 701., 3M., and 171. lac 24 Air that,
the cher= pgaesgi to will, that out of the boriel Ards of
the college, es wise should take two ahem god ash ef the
fellows me, rear licaltation; but with • penes that the
choir, whisk vie Yea into decay, timid he kit men=
in a sigma= maser sad lismes pagerMsd Mete 0110.11-
111 Mata. the sir 'tie es era whhh ray hed a Art to
take ta Be ern Imams, alto ham bier er Mee el the
ND& OZ. OM MINIM j_fie Ifteisnegneemor oft= they were to
divide the eammlf le the wend= a= sae Masi
• fellow. It le theraine mina Met the angled bileaden me sot to
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impartial the drat Be term lue te liert the tit
to • fixed war rile the aperra of a tors inseam of the
fends bit =Myr by Se air was or=ate wee; are Is
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endowments age sip else. duetir Be triot, half
mend, end Be net blur Is by the o
Mar Means when It shit be berser the twit primes of
stl the emir of the rim exit al whir sibter with-
out portly._ Ito sirtit eet Ihre vas air sire
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Ilea lad ihrihreparer_mil en% I BeI ere hie Inctinearesells, to have
wie a lira of Bois oft=tseai ham ma by pee. Be Be We to real to thr pre-
sere.-I wiry dear kir7wre may, H. Hew.
P.B. Them walla hole be vim* with the Wit, of
Pah. 11, 1647.
His lordship also whir to state, that it was intimated to
him by the hon. and lee. dean that, at the meeting held for
the purpose of pramatiag this petition, there were not more
than six or *eves pewwa erembled.
Lord STANLEY said that in the first plane he would not
quarrel with the liberty which the noble marquis had taken
• reading this letter, although, strictly winking, it was
hardly regular that any letter should be reed to their lord-
ships relating to statements made in that house. He was
sorry that the statement which he had made the other day
appeared to have hurt the feelings of, or was thought to be
directed with a spirit of hostility against, the dean and chapter.
He had the honour of • slight acquaintance with the hon.
and rev. dean, but he had no acquaintance with the other
canons or the petitioners, but he must be permitted to say
that there was no attempt ea the pert of the dean in his
letter to show that it wan set the Wise of the founder
that the amount of tha fines shoal& be peoportiorte to the
amount of berme. All the rarer Be wen made from
first to last eamplained of the non-resilemes of the wardens.
The object et the charter was me lore to lire their
eoadeat miaow Comidering the that the fines were
Mira Be the peeper of enfordeg residence, the claim
is his letter made his earns out Maseger, when be said that
fines were made elm the vole= rawdeed low revenues,
so low, indeed, the tbe warden had each, per annum, 701.,
the carious 361., ad the shignse 171. lb., with some addi-
tional fees. It was door egad shim that the intention et
the charter was, it radii wee intended to be enforced
when the fowls seseeetesd se see than half the income.
The subeftnimt fumes of bloom from 701. a year
to 10001., sad from 361. b 1001., or 10001. made the
fuß went of the rare penalty a nullity, and of no
Mb= He mid, la pereadeg the petition, that it was plain
sad obvious that the iseeatire el the charter was, that the
widows sad we desalt milk. If they did not reside,
they videleg, ast ask bpi et,
_bat the moral
labia was rig he With all respeet
to lm awl weeder, be euellawal to hold the opinion
veld& be eirri the We debt. With redeem to the
stateausts VW, at tita sessesial get op kw the wpm
eir preseatiog the peddle. alp six or SIM poems
, attelied, be lei Gulp lay dlet, awn a ping emasellet
I with the mater, be had b a Isere reit sir the bide af the
ere, mad esesailea Ida whether to would be advisable to
held a public .sides Ibr the purpose. It she slate* that
ikon wu greatezeltmist ea the en Sgt in libmaltaatar, awl
that if • pulls mesas were INK there wen sway who,
through their it la the Cher* would take the op-
portunity of vAikiiinS elm vieleeee, which it was their
desire to avid. Underibst• iseitances it was leelly
yea/dyed. act Julleimily, met le hold a padre rest-
ing. The den she Wet
gas be
caws woos be end
two of the =OM =Mkedigps at peelhateat.
This whole csaliola n we et eael peat Usapeetweee that lie
weal elemorall Suilr haidelp b eppebst a eseasitese
this bow te lavestlimis tbe Awls amsemmi ebb the ease,
I sod te Impeire what wsee beeuelled le be
imam% sail the mole is tibia were fulfilled, and
whether alai abet abrades la the law was newasary.
sbeell be Med
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Lied BiOtreatill rid that be wadi be happy to set