The Express.
London, England, 1851-01-18 00:00:00

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ILRIBITION DISCUSSION AT THE SOCIETY of the , • that .„.„ - ,„„ N.. 1 Ie isette.
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Mei bees sonnuneed that at the isedinary weekly stmt. Me. Mao—And that did to ham th
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of ski 8 *Say of Arta. last evestag, Mr. Henderson, of m to so smflaished owe ?
the firm of 1.1 sad Henderson, the eon:rectors for they Mr. Fos—Nose whatever. (Rei.asteli:444, ram
svietrion of the Carystal Palace, is Hyde p rk. w .alt reed a t mane
Mr. OLT3t Ins put a second q
piper illustrative of the q'astity sad nears of the mate-. w„ takos to meet the notym.f7u7""Md emismaffm`. of the.
vials sled and the amount of lativer employed in the dee- ! sow, ~, .riotr, sod t 0..“ moretiesly, so viva` from
sanctum of that bailuiroo, and • hie" ns•therqseatly emstabled on the occasion. Mr. Headmen%
int"' Of "Rttin . the cold and beat of the atotoepbere t
s_ Iltr. Fos pereasede4 to tity this by a diewram, end Ow
Weever, wee set la stern !she*, Ilf• Pther befell elthi'llea wY girritt Wise theentiee espeasten,or amtraction for the whole
Ms. 17..5, his eotpartser. length of the isilaing would sot timed ill inches, and,
Alta the treasacii •of the websery bottoms of the melt- rapposieg that the greatest p"teible difference .occarred, the
bar •—eere<t hwee the "well w-e le" br Me• °eh'. la 'oral ma'am atilt:lgo that could take place is the perpendi-
wil"—llle, "me 'tit. Imehteeinff the ift"lnat. a" I. I naleri:y et the autumns was 1 and f of as inch, or a little
alterable e-masslo• of the society wish the posit asailog more the. q..n.r, she.... it would h. „the!), sofa to
"eat of the year, the Eehttebe• el the Wwhte" . 'l4 ! head the Weave to the anent if two Witte either way,
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andsem
Nadorr,ithlik, k la se respiestlem he say, is utile.
the winds iaYleei wiY ie etimed, sed with rear
of hie mg tiebssee re priers' at the society, le the
riot resat of Oho palsy *heady aired ht, the .roll think
that their grit shyest Sense the prima errs should
be to aid the estrotioo of ISM by may mere is them
parr. Aker, the members ut tie grety Mee erred
tare of this rein ea he part of the mused anti-
heard Is the paters of Mr. Pear sad Proksior C ter.
per, sod is the offer of Lk. Now, to plea the use of the
wear of the seri at tie Alper of the metrepolita•
sesamimiusere it the exiallties. Mr. Parolee paper do
peweeat the proor time %hare telees palace in Hyde.
ot as experiment, bat the tette...eh of as ides
which had already bsai proved to be pretties: a' Cbetiwmrtb,
whine Me leases it Praetor Cewper is the befitted huff
meet has dimmated. at it wits meant to do, all ignorant
par too that the buries was sot reigatilioally ossetroted
or ad.qately sir .4. 8 r the paper of Mr. Reeder.= on the
mane sad orgamitatim of lA, ter which bare beat adopted
to raise this attraordia try strum ere la as short a time pram
Um !soma the sonata to has this earth' ieform roe
perished tile the pu au. b.sefit; sad the liberal spirit of the
seetramere. MSS/. Fox, Ilealefloil, sad C.., in pereeittiag
ahem to derive reamer from a lisowirere of some of
their berm practice. Ti. email do not propose to hold
soy terror ezaihitiess this • aeon, in order that the rood I
M the raja, siey be free at ell doses to promote the
interests of the greet exabiti es. It Pi their intention,
dreg the .periud of the 'erases, to hole 'metal con.
eseautinai and mirage it the drum= of tope,
MSS*, It is firma. sill seise oat of the ex.
him sties. They Mee MPS le tepee that army
mese will be mak to araa infortatles sad
emostree to the forage reit to, eminent is scare aid in
art, who may he captatid in great costs?, ; sad when the
proem time arrive' Use council ail corder toe propriety et
reay the medilreola at the disposal of try proper autho
rat,. at • ether rase al meeting. bad it se not only upon
re sited. but as. Me roman cireamstanees .ad wants
edam we of the grist exhibition, that ten council will
brow their arta is, eat clambers the intl.waCe at the
.slay. Tier. am to ao doubt that the eahitiioll will
sir ins to sassy ..w error Already a steamer tosser
era testers the air sad strometeret is sprier/lag sir
lissedidal he her. It will be tie duty ot tie causal -r
teem this masectios; sad they are considering a pies by
which a tritelly esealog It., Me diatom:on. investigatim,
sad beet rut. d promoimg the tura of art sad nmautec-
tares may
.talta plate every year is oar One of the great
masurostriog tooter, somewhat ou the riaciple et the
meanie el the Ili-.rte Amerman sot the Archeological
borne. Coiner 1 wits each an weir, the eauteil tea
that mesh remains to be dor to educate the nee of the
people in the praline sad practice of art, riot the
itatrition is likely to make bat too appareat ; sad taking
advaarge of the Iron we are likely to be taught, the
rear purpum mr.og as a/ rat to establish demonism
&arum YOU modehing schools the 'halloo; the country.
They ha,. *tenanted this proposal to his 'Myst Misn-
ame the Preeides., and they have the eatietaction of
liras' that he thinks it may prove very what Ai
ready tie smarts of tLe society stay be am 'retard
ea the sac estul result of the labours of the tattertial
rooming. of its smatters which has been formed to promote
legioa ma recognition of the tight. of inventors. It has
been ahlawinewl that ter Identity's noteromeat are pre-
pare u to , ek parliament to muter the riebt on all keratin
to tetra their ialieli•ioni at the Urea Etblbitioa
wil.out subjects, them to the pars and perkier la so'
dote.. w.an are eared by the wrest ',mem of palest I
laws ; end here err be little doubt that thus right, so ma-
grant with boorry sad oostema sense, will be earimed
beyond the period of the Eanentiou. The labours at the
council will so: be related in abiding every aoliataiteo to in.
vest investioa with its dye rights and pianos as a science.
The rascal believe that at the meat tar the Seamy of
Ails will do well to mete a ecesiderable chyme in the kind
M iimeiciee which it promotes. The timer gone by when it
we. aserrebl. to hold wit small rewards tor tittle seminars
bemire there are now so =may ether and better woke Ire
which ali lavender a teal petrel Yalu.- are published mad
traded. There are pry other loyalties which, though
at the greatest importer., wisp ao profit or reward to those
who carry them out, the brain vices they yield Wag I
*hared are by the whole cormaity. The exposure of
galas moropolies, sad the eollection of authentic lams and
rider • shores the via effects of legal or commercial
edicts ore menufachree or trade, are senates of Ode sort ;
sad th. council th Teton propose to direct their attention in
the erasg whir to a taw mantes of this se see, rather
this Si. a linger number art leas important eaten. Anionget
the wrier, whim it 1. proposed first to Wm up, tatty ray
MMUS the manutaciu re and as ply of opal gaa—the 'apply
at 'rata he London—the nears of the melee laws on
amnia arts—the iamaimate at err is Me Mush colonies
—the reiteration of fuent,te. bah is a brief outline of
the pohie which the coral keys to carry lino effect diaries
the prism% stair. They team that it will meet with your
epprovel, gad that their latroure will motive year contidence
sad .slyest.
elialitlian of the evening, 11. T. Rope, liaq , M.P.
and sire president, th,n &prover for the abases of Mr.
lined. nun, who was to bate delivered the Mayne, who, he
and, had been se occupied that he had not bees able to pre-
late it, but se a contanatim Mr. Foe, the other retractor
was wrist, sad was prepared to answer any evertor and
to elm any explanation with regard to t. a bundioe.
Mr. WlNlLlToirrit would avid himself of the inatatimi
to put a qrsuos to Mr. Fox. That gentleman might have
hoed abet rue tears were entertained by armee intending
to s, n,l goads to the sahibs ion, that some onschtet might
remit tu the artichu tainted from deep and mildew,
arms; either from the conderseatins of vapour within the
building, et the penetration of rain or mow :rom without.
Probarly Ms. Fut would be pond ennefah to • sada what
raisins bad baba Made to prevent thie.
Mr. Fon grad that he had ore to We matting wholly us.
prepared to give anything like a lecture• but cis was en. at
rare to answer any question the mesdnite of the society
mien dears to put to him, and to give the fullest
earaaatios with regard to all the arrasermeste sad
details of the bedlam.. With retard to the question
at damp, be believed from the peculiar constroction of tag
building that it would be ford to be or of ton dryeet art
mostruoted sad lot this triton, that the ,nterior would be
always acting an the principle of a *fill. Thus the earls-
sere which arm from the sit lehlt rise until they name
in contact with the glass at the top, thee they war eon.
dense, sad Me wake wallas down the .Iva and OM sub-
base by eitillary attractiou would bout t sir way iato the
hollow grooms of the tua, then into tie gutters (mexplenied
by W. Para os a previous &woolen,. end frogs thence it
would go oat by the triuteveme getters thrmgh Si. C01t1.09
into the sewer% Up to the present time the action had polio
on la the moat satisfact my way, at. meat en, that any amount
of damp, as, for iastaniii, pais of water thrown 90 the
ground, wee it • kw hoer taken up by evaporatios, aid
dispersed by this mere. (Hear, hear.) Is few, the
bandit g had no power to retina damp.
Mr. WIISZWOILTIA-0: Osiris mush exhalation era have
takes plate already is the building, sad so far Wynn Pima 0
or gutters have mated perfectly es keeping the Landing dry ?
Mr. Pox—They an rosiestly acing, sad to each as
extent that we had a diflirelty la putting a egeond or third
Griot point eyes them, for they are err always wet; asd
not only ere Mose tame wear In taluy sway the wet
which Brims from the eibelmiees vitro the boring, bat
area to aryls. eff say that, trots the glass is nay ISM aid
brae sadly relit get is kow without.
Amortise Marra lattared whether Mr. Fos we. arm
that at as lemeace is the mantry a astlemen found a
err, story built by Mr. Patted upon tie tame priori do
with regard to the roof and gutter., drier without • fine
Mr a Noma built is the end Wary way. for the purpose el
thiritia. *muds ?doable attach; use though a his we.
mew anty kept burning ia it.
r. Fox replied that be ha 1. herd so from Mr. Parr
Mr. J. Uthit pat • s ties at quieting; the first, whelks,
Mr. V .a car ride what wield be the elk.: o: • hear gale
of rad broke splint th. boildiag— sr rather, what m-ane
bad been telita is plover Nary therefrom ?
Mr. Pen earliest% that the hailding rated oa 1,060
edemas es the grimed Is. The mat Idiom direction for
mind to have r topmost effect epos It would be that of his
adth, the Isegth air is llamado* that tam au se
racer is that &ration. Now, in tits width, the eaumas
rated on Urge east iron plates, ass es Um bottoms, and
above the hies Siete% awl • little below Mallon were the
repees,l3 in. deep, died to thews her, and rortaiag tram
entry from or side of the bundled to the other, coesetetlas
the opposite erases in ter direetim. It word be dithialt
Monfort to wasseive the amiability of say of the edemas
bring upeet rase. try Woke is two. At the top also, the
earns" rig rarer by era tees garden, S feet deep, se
Mat the rime" rye hear together is fors. math la the
us. way so yyeeaa word haste a table. Ts disturb time
edema tbetsln lase the width it would bo seesemery to,
do what would be equiyaleat to breathe them Mit la two
plasm. (Mr. Peg ben rammed his meanie/ more clearly
by refines' to • diagram). Again. Reforrjou could bream
either of toe edemas pia mum start • twee meal to twigs
the ti ones err* a that exams, et is tree red". •
free of about 12 toes spirt midi .it.... There were
1.060 of these wlamtu, rite h saltiplied by 12, se take hi
at half that forts, by 6 tone, would give a Imo it
6,36 d hese, whisk would be secessary is apply at re GM
the gamesome.' before yea could trot weer the herbs.,
sad that wee eves supposing them wags es IMIONININO
girder, bet soli the transverse ottatita ad the aIIsOMIS
the waves. Now, the pettiest mere at the foree of wind
gm
hears is the neigkoartto dof Inaba was 2210. he
the gapes/ it foot ; but take it at 28.1 e, sad samosa *WI
• gem of that form struck the whole side of the beuZ2l
from top to bottom at one sad the MIS 5,5.55, yes
her skate equal to .beat 1,400 or 1,600 toes, ahem. yea'
W a manias power • Most tadsg tato aostaat the Ursa
Tone gmeosth. are toss. (Laid cheer.) •
Mr. J. OM—ad yees situ opportseity at tarsi Hs'
afehatb of the hslWag in radar'. vied its Ms very MIN
ph we Mil Yr Wm deg

To wan stiffest in the budding, they had determined this
the *speedo.% and contractien of the meta/ Mould be
'reviled by the Castel -y of the eolemna themselves, and
with that view they were ell keyed up hard and tam together.
I: was the seem is the width. There wee a magma wood
tie at various levels from one tide of the building to the
other, and bracing and securing all together, leaving the
leo.gth of iron to impend or contract as it liked. (Hear.)
Aeother Mamma ri marked that it had been Meted that
if • crowd Winced in any one place in the galleries there
ni;ll:..t be danger from the extreme lightness of the gird rs.
Yr. rex wee aware that that objection had beau re•
pettedly ergo& bat there was not the least ground for it.
Hs belmves it arose fro the fact that instead of snag •
gilder ratite term meetly adopted, and which people were in
toe habit uf seeleg, vii, a solid girder of shout 15 inches
deep, they had made their girder 3 feet deep, but perforated,
the perforstiou givbg thew a much lighter appearance
then the ordinary girders, which were math less stroeg,
presets:id. When parties had expensed toils fears about
the streseth of these stiricrs he usually asked what weight
de you think they will nary? and the answer he moody
• reeeived was, "Why about four tons ;" and they weft
sarprieed when be toll them, what was the fact, that they
had all been proved with • weight of 15 tons—eix of them 11
had base broke., bat only by the application of • weight ell
37 to:d. N ow, the greatest strain that meld ever come epos
tae gallery filers la any part would be the weight of et
tasty people se could be crammed upon it—which you
would Meer hey., because • considerable portion of the
seam was takes up for the tables on which the articles
thiald he pissed for the t xbibition. Bat tskieg it that the
retools space was crow.led with people, and that the weight
averaged 1 aibe. to the sope:fitial loot, that would bring a
load en each girder of 0..1y five and • half toes, wb
Le:Ty one bed been proved at 15 tons end it had beta
ascertained that they would sot break under 30 tons.
(Cheery,'
Mr. GILTS wished ILISO to ask whether the peculiar form
of roof adopted for the building, end its formation into
ridge* tad yule's, waa adapted to other large buildings, SI
taeuries.
Mr. Fox replied that Mr. Piston bad as well and so fully
etcfiain. d that point, that be felt he should be only w.eting
the Liao of the meeting to enter into it. (Hear ) He would
oniy my that thin de,eriptiew of roof combined lightness,
a/rag:l', and ebeepasse. (Hear.)
Mr. Cohn inquired whittler tuere was any danger to be
spirettenoesi from vibration of the generics ?
Mr Fox said if there wen •, then all the iron bridges in the
poisutry wen in danger. ("Hoar," and a laugh.) He
should very mum like to test the tastier by running a loco-
motive all aluag the galleries: he should have no teats for
the result. (Hear.)
A Nausea inquired whether the light from the roof,
canine throngs such • medium as canvas, would not have
an mark Ming sheet os mar.y descriptions a goods?
Mr. Fox and it was a mistake to suppose that it wee
canvas with which the glees was to be cowered—it was
ut.bleulteil calico; the effect had already been tried and the
light given was beautiful.
An J. has Illassaaa asked whether precautions had been
telim to premed shavings accumulating under the floor,,
and suggested that if not, as the ba.rds were not cl,.ely
Jointed, there would be great danger of fire. He observed
teat the It 1.1 Int.itution was nearly burned down from an
racideut arising from the same came. Toe ground should
be taretatly swept bef.ro the flwee wore laid down.
Mr. Fox considered the suggestion a good one, and bed
brie WIN upon throughout There was • general ardor
at the budded that no floor should be laid until all shavings
were removed, and the ground below it was completely laid
bare.
A Maltase' asked whether the contractor thought that the
oleos was 'efficiently toick.
Mr. Ful —Tome can be no doubt that we consider it of
sulasteat thickness for we have to keep it in remelt he
twelve meths, hula the terms of our coerrect. Tams Is
an importer': het to be observed with regard to glass which
peeipm is eatiaaming its strength are apt to lone sight of.
Wises • quitelsoa is asked about glue it as generally only en
i!S Witham& No doubt the thickness is • matter
of some importance, bat the width of the pane
or &hist is trimly so, for en you reduce the
width you add to the @mare. The glue we
era using at the building weighs 16 ounces to the square
toot, sail thesis* of each square is 49 inches long and 10
inches wide. During the lose twelve years the firm of which
1 ease somber have used 3) agree of glass spread over vs-
. rims porta of the kinod m, math of it at the government
ear kyarde, and et the railway sestina both it. this timothy,
la !reload, ead in ticodand. We have never bad any
ddilleulm or any com;:l tint, and melees never used anything
thicker then 16 ounce glass, except in one case, tor the
• ma:ral,y, where we uses 21 mace glans. If at the build-
tag it. !did* Perk, instead of using the glass 10 inches wi.le we
glanni in memo 15 Ouches wide, I have no doubt we should
have testa brolus in every heavy bedstraw.
• Ilexes& wished to know how the moisture seising
trim the earth attain the building was to be got rid of ?
Is some pars of the cog Mournood of Hyde Perk • thick
mist, several lett dap, was occasionally thrown up from the'
moisture cid the ground.
Me. Yee evelmil that in this respect the building in
Hyde Pack would have an advantage over other buildings,
ma-much mall the umes•ure that wooled from the ground
would pass off ia the manner he had already described. Tee
site, however' of the building, which wee high above the
level of the ffoespintice, was perucularly dry. They had
bowed hula+ al. over r 6 Net deep, and trenches fur laying
toe pines, and had found no water; sad in one instance
they bed bored d-Ara 29 lees without coming to any spring.
Tee question of dampens was well considered before it wen
dethled that the Siam boards should have any opening
hissers them, because it would have been far better to put
up with the Quin [has be exposed to damp (lieu )
ASUIZiele Marisa asked whether Mr. Fos had any ex-
pos/wee M tat effect of the vibration mud by the use of
MOM hewer iu each • building.
Mr. Fox—No, I could not poisibly have, and for this
remea, that there nee. r has been a budding of the kind
lereseed before, except as a conservatory.
• area do you think it would have a greater
fleet in a beading of this description than is an ordinary
each as is steed fer manufacturing purposes ?
Mr. Fox—No, b-cause al, machinery in motion at this
helloing will be axed to the ground, and not attached to the
balloted itself.
Ira Maraca—Still there will be vibration, will there
ant
Me. Fox—Certainly there will be vibraeion, as there is
vibrative in a housewhen • heavily ledge waggon is ;mein
May the street.
stember Ilastasa—How many steam engines have you
led at yolk there at one time ?
Mr. Fox —We here bad three at work at one time.
Us. BIA•117161.0 expressed an opinim that there would
be no eibmima of any consequenee.
Me. Pox—So convinced the I that there will be none,
that I proposed the machinery should be fixed to the
edemas. That, however, is not to be ; but I proposed it.
Mr. Buren mho would andertski to put us a grinding
Mem of 31) b one power between two of the columns,
eeenoluag it to them without causing any ea Maria!
tibration.
la reply le another observation from the gentleman who
bid started the objection,
Mr. Fox said, that from the meaner of fixing there meld
nee possibly be any vlbratioa.
A-other 11 retorted to the sodden! which weaned
some time ego at the Bricklayers' Arms Station, and ob.
serving that se meet thee depended epos the columns, that
whoa one broke the whole structure fell, said that many
se opined theism. might occur at the exhibition; and that
it one of the colonies should from any accident happen to
Meek, the whale building woald tall. He wished to know
Nether, if • column broke, the gisders would mill support
the
Yr. Fo licelmas and the girder attached toil would
both come dews, bat nordeg more. A' the Bricklayers
Law Station three columns tam: down at use.
Mr. 04T d a,d: imputed what security hat been takes
easiest flee ?
Mr. Pox ezplaiesi bat some time ago be had called tear
gesiderooo, the manager of the Loudon Fire Brigade, mad
Wed his what else of building he thought the suet mean
against fire? Ur. Be tidwood's answer was, that if be were
chonehig such • building be should like the walls to be of
I ith and plaster, gad the root of glees and observed, that
the old actin of making bendier-ire proof by using
mtherible materials was mead to be a mistake. Cast
boa columos aid girders when exposed so Are broke, and
ueeuiht iron too, when they !maims red bet expanded, and
Mata comedown. Tits roiled of his pref snag lath end
/hirer wells was, that they gave great facility foe Masking
MI la dim tworiag the In and patting it out. He (Ur. Fox I
One asked kite it be woald (ibises to glom Maw
The answer was as—he would like that better,
he than he could see where the Ste was and break j
through spout it at oasts, aid a building of that
dieramtioe would b • the mire that could he pat up. It had
been totted avermary thweree to nodose the lower part ef
the beildieg ter the irabilithes with wood to some sweat ,
bet at the mit ilborn of welsh HIM were 19 or 20, Mere
alleh• lamed wiadow, eight feet wide, which world
WAWA theepperlawity of overlooking the whole build'end
Almemeite Na oilmen the spot wham the fire we.,
sedteeeldeut ow. weep regard to the means of
Um ire; the Chides& Waterworks had laid
es • iesb mail .lerays thargul with a7O het coleus&
el..oreter; trim this 6.isch ppm WI all round the
bellileg ant from ten outside pipe sixteen breathes
VW alas. Um betiding, lateresptieg each ether to a
idea es that at any past, sad witless* the use
▪ • be engthe at ell, they would be able, with a deals
Inge of bele, M meted any pars of she beilgieg &mild a
be Wee ,i.e., The wawa would be always ire. sad she
Oedema Wane Welke had gent to the expense of putting
en as additiostal iroWes tee the purpose, their undettakees
bawl to thpley either orthary cistierataaas 100,000 gallons