The Express.
London, England, 1848-07-29 00:00:00

Be believed it would be a cheap expenditure if they with.
drew tke army front Ireland, and laid out the money it cost
in this way. Then, as to the government of Ireland, the
anion, *they all knew, was a one-sided bargain, and the
whole 'ruin of lei.), government under it had broke down.
There woo no settled system. The government consisted of
• mock sovereign, a Brummagem cuurt, and a Pinchbeck
moscutive. ( A laugh.) There was a lord-lieutenant, who,
es soon as he knew his busini so. and could do his win le well,
was removed (as in the case of Lord Normanhy) and a new
lord-lieutenant was sent over, who held peculiar views on
the subject of national ducationusing the church
patronage, which was the chief patronage of his ethoe to
amt those views, he appointed a set of bishops, whose lan-
guage would better become dragoons than clergy- '
Man, and who declared that the national educe-
lion oyster(' was a devil's system. (Hear, bear)
Another evil was the Lord Lieutenant. If they wished to
ameliorate the condition of Inland they must get rid at
once of the Castle of Dublin. (Hear, hear.) TMs was the
opinion of L td hlonteagle, in IS3C, and of Mr. Shaw, the
representative of the University, in MIS, who declared that
the highest offices wi re filled by strangers, lad that that ot
the viceroy was nething better than an empty pseteaut. Tne
most sensible thing the government could do in this respect
—judging from the appi manic of the Secretary of State for
the Home Department, who seemed to be growing " small
by degrees and beautifully leas "—would he to appoint a
fourth Secretary of State to manage the affairs of Ireland.
Another proposition he hail to make—although it might
be met wish ilereenn by that house—was, that the
*Mt had arrived when the English parliament should held
a session in Dublin—a course which had been recommended
by Lord Clare, who was of opinion that the English mem-
bers knew omen mote of Belgium than they did of Ireland.
Be bad still another suggestion to m•ke, which he probably
would be told was unconstitutional. Without meaning to say
anything of such •character, he must wenn st an humble ad-
dress to her Majesty to pay an annual visit to Ireland; a course
which had been recommended by that great historian and phi-
losopher of his day, Sir J. Davies. Nu monarch of her race but
one--and that one out greetly respected by the English people
—lnd ever visited Ireland, and so enthusiastic and loyal had
been the reception given to h im that the;people had his footsteps
carved upon a rock. Such visit would, he was sure, go far
to tranquillise the feelings of the Irish people. lie could
not be taunted like her Majesty's ministers with having pro-
posed no plan. The noble lord had rather sarcastically, last
night, recommended the Irish mein' era to return to Ireland,
at least those of them, he said, who possessed property and
influence. Now he begged to tell the' noble lord that it was
not those who had property in Ireland who hadalsointluence,
.-(hear)—and he must tell him, moreover, that that state of
things had been brought about by the nen-introduction of the
measures he bail so long promised. If the noble lord would
pledge hi /*ell to those meaeures, he (11 r. Osborne ) would have
no objection to go to Ireland ; but, until he did, he would ra-
main in that house and urge upon the government the ab-
solute necessity of not putting off those measures to " a more
convenient season," which considering the present state of
affairs in Ireland, might never arrive. (Heir, hear.)
Mr. AN::ThY agreed with the hon. number for Middle-
*: in almost everything he said except his declaration that
the established church was the monster grievance of Ireland.
Ha (Mr. Anotey), es a Roman catholic, must Fay that the
Roman catholics of Ireland did not consider the established
church as the chief grievance of that country, net indeed
any grievance at all. No ; the grievances of Ire
land were of a social and agrarian nature. He
VIM happy to givehis support to the motion of the ki n. mem-
ber for Rochdale.
On the motion of Mr. M. J. O'CoNteeee, the debate was
adjourned till twelve o'clock to-morrow (this day).
FARMERS' ESTATE SOCIE IY (IRELAND) LL
On the motion that the house should go into commiteeßle on
this bill,
Col. DUNNE made some observations in opposition to
certain principles contained in the bill, and objected that
hon. gentlemen had not been furnished with it for a eutii•
tient time to enable them to come to any conclusion on the
measure.
Sir W. SOMERVILLE hoped that, as the bill will a most
important one, no obstacle would be put in its way.
After a few words from Mr. STAFFORD,
Mr. GLADSTONE said that this was a bill which would
be most advantageous to Ireland.
Mr. LABOlie HERE said that if the houso approved of
the principle of the tell, they need not lose time by dis-
cussing the details.
Mr. REYNOLDS supported the bill.
Mr. HENLEY objected to the heete with which the mea-
sure was being pressed through the house.
Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL defended the course taken by
the select committee in transferring this bill from the private
to the public business of the house.
Mr. R. PALMER deprecated baste, and approved of the
aggstion ot the hun. member tor Oefordshire.
Mre hI . ON SELL supported the bill.
Alter some further conversation the house went into com-
mittee pro forma, the Chairman reported progress, and ob-
tained leave to sit again on Monday.
BRITISH SPIRITS WAREHOUSING BILL.
The house went into committee pro forma on •his bill,
Some amendments were added by the Chancellor of the
Exchequer, and after a short discussion the bill was ordered
to be reprinted.
PL BLIC WORKS (IRELAND) (No. 2) BILL.
On the motion for the third reading,
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY objected to the bill, because it
assumed that 954,0001. would be received from Ireland,
and took from the house all control over that money. After
gest experience ot the ay in which money had been spent
ea public works in Irewland, he was opposed to any more
being voted.
Dr. BO W RING also opposed the bill.,
Col. BLACKALL said it was only lending the Irish
people their own money back again.
Mr. STAFFORD opposed the bill.
The opposition was not pre sed to a division, and the bill
MI read a third time.
NEW BILLS.
CHANCERY FEES.
On the motion of the SOLICITOR-GENERAL leave
was given to bring in a bill to alter the mode of collecting
certain fees payable in the High Court of Chancery in Eng-
land, and to collect the same by means of stamps.
ASSESSIONABLE MANORS.
On the motioa of Lord MORPETH leave was given to
bring in a bill to confirm the awards of assasionable manors
commissioners in the Duchy of Cornwall.
STEAM-BOATS ON THE THAMES.
On the motion of Mr. LABOUCHERE leave was given
to bring in a Intl for the purpose of regulattng steam-boats
on the Thames.
The house adjourned at a quarter to two.

ELECTION COMMITTEES.—YESTERDAY.
DUBLIN.—The committee decided, after hearing a
lengthened legal argument that the petitioneis had not suc-
ceeded in proving that the valuation for the building rate in
St. Mark's parish was legal.
NORTII CIIESIIIRR.—CounseI addressed the com-
mittee for the siting members, and proceeded to examine
Mr. Roscoe, Mr. Leigh's electioneering agent, to prove that
strict injunctions had been given against treating. Adjourned
to this day.