The Express.
London, England, 1851-02-21 00:00:00

ARMY ESTIMATES.

The army estimates for the enst:ng veer were
published yesterday, in accordance with the order of the
House of Commons. The following are the most important
portions of the document:

15,;142. 1850-51

Land force., numbers 99,12S 98,714

E £
Land force}, charge 3,5'21,1170 .. 3,562,430
Staff
Public department% V2 7 a .. 92,684
-lilitar

Royal Mi....ary College
Royal Military Asylum, Se 18,014 18,647
Volunteer corps

3,873,066 3,936,•582
3,873,686

Decrease, elfectire services 62,916

Reward• for military service 11,604 .. 15,112
Army pay of general officers
Full pay for retired officer'
Half-pay and military allowances 377,000 .. 31i6,000
Foreign half-pay 38,093 .. 42,200
Widows' pension.
Compassionate list
In-pcu.ion 35,413 .. 35,7.36
Out-p. n•ion
Superannuation allowances

2,052,279 .. 2,092,815
. 2,052,279

Decrean, non-effective services 30,536

Effective Kervicet
Nun-effective tier vices 2,062,279 .. 2,082,815

5,923.945 .. 6,019,307
6,923,94.5

Total deereaxe Army E.timatcs 195142.. 93.452
War-office, Feb. 7, 1851. F. I.llArt.z.

1.-NI-MHER C.V It r.

The number of officers, non-commussioned officers, and
rank and tile which it is proposed to maintain for the ser-
vice of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
(exeliisive of the troops in the East Indies) for the year,
from the Ist April, MI, to the 31st March, 1842, is 98,711.
War-attire, Feb. 7, 18.51. F. MACI.E.
VOTE 2.—ESTIVATE OF Tim CHARGE OE TIER MAJEsTI'S
LAND FORCES, FOR SERVICE AT HOWE AND ARIPIAO,
FROG THE IST APRIL, 1851, TO THE 3IST
The charge of the land forces as detailkd in the
accompanying state of particulars (A, p. 4 to
p. 11), is
Five regiments of cavalry and twenty-four regi-
ments of infantry are employed in the East
Indies. The charge of these regiments, and
of the East India depots at 'Maidstone and
Chatham, is defrayed by the East India Com-
pany. Deduct, therefore
Amount to he provided for the charge of her
Majesty's land forces at home and abroad, ex-
clusive of India
War-office, Feb. 7, 1841

£3,521,070
F AI•t LE.

SPORTING.

TATTERSALL'S--Tnyncriny.
LIVERPOOL SPRING CUP.
5 to 1 apt Mr. Parr'. Panope (t)
6to 1 Mr. liberate*. Doubt (1)
7 to 1 M'. Leohonh eautire
LIVERPOOL 820:EPLECHASE.
10 to 1 mpg Striate 13 to seat Pt ter 'S!mID
10 to 1 Abd.tl-Kader It to hogittte
lo to 1 Maris Day 70 to Itcwoc
110 to 1 Rot-trap 75 to Currie
2 to 1 tan Hope e. to Fernt...m
Vain Rope was ?wicket' for nearly 00?. at 12 nod 1:i to I,
but closed at 12 to 1, with plenty of lavers. Rat-trap was
in good demand; the general betting, houL ver, bt ink; ex-
tremely dull.
2.000 GUINEAS STAKES.
' The fleld for choice aprolnat Grecian
5 to 1 apt Mr. Ocholdrettnia Mountain Itylpk colt
le to 1 Lord Steel. s h storm
CIIES rER CUP.
14 to I 'gat Mr. Treenh Rheims
25 to 1 Lent Cliftlen's Wallflower (t and aft rff)
25 to 1 Lord Stretho.nre's Montague It end gift off)
40 to 1 Mr. !lenient'. Scones (t)
Rhesus evidently on the decline, but ,earetly anything
doing on the race.
METROPOLITAN HANDICAP.
10 to spot Mr. aleiklam's Roby
10 to Lord Exlmtorea Duette
14 to Mr. oido.t.destim'A Minimum (t)
10 to Mr. Mate's Gillyflower (taken to 50/.)
DERRY.
6to mot Mr. Howard'. Greet et)
6 to -- Mr. Heißoolh Prime M imater
12 to Mr. Oeholthotor.h Mountain ttqlph ettt (t)
40 to Mr. Grectll- Aritoto (1)
1,000 to 2 Str J. Howler. confc-o.r (t
Grecian woo backed for 150/. at G to I, Prime Minister at
13 to 2, and 6 to 1, to 3001., and the Mountain Sylph Colt,
and Arioste, for 2001. each, at the quoted odds.

ANOTRER FIRE IN THE ClTY.—Last night, at
few minutes before 11, • fire broke out in one of the large
warehouses formerly occupied as a sugar house, and situate
at No. 34, East Cheap. This building was of great depth,
five tars high, and from .10 to GO feet wide. The lower
part was occupied by Mr. Joseph Prime, a cheese factor,
and the upper part was in the tenure of Mr. John Roberts,
wholesale spice merchant ; each occupant having goods
stored away in their several compartments of many thousand
pounds value. The fire was first discovered by police-con-
stable 52-5 (City force). Whilst patrolling his beat, he per-
ceived a strong glare of light in the first floor. This
being an unusual circumstance, induced the constable to
look attentively to the spot, as he at first thought that
probably thieves had broken into the premises. In a very
brief period, however, afterwards, he saw that a fire was
burning within the building. Ile therefore lost no time in
giving an alarm and sending for the escapes and engines.
In the short space of five minutes two of the Royal Society's
escapes, with Mr. Baddelly, the inspector, attended, and
were followed by Mr. Fogo, the principal officer of the A
section, with a body of firemen and the engines from Jef-
frey-square station. Water was soon procured, and the
engine was set to work; but it became manifest to all pre-
sent that one engine would be of little service in subduing
the flames, which were then travelling along with unusual
swiftness. Messengers were therefore despatched in sundry
directions to call the engines from the more distant depots.
A great many more brigade engines, under the superinten-
dence of Mr. Braidwood, and that of the West of England
Company, attended with all possible expedition, but the fire
in the meantime had forced its way through every window
in front of the spacious building, and when it penetrated I
the roof, owing to the vast quantities of spice and other in-
flammable commodities, the flames for the space of half-an-
hour mounted terrifically into the air, and shed such aglare
over the City that most of the lofty church steeples were
brought prominently before the notice of persons over the
bridges. The spice warehouse of Messrs. Tomlins, Rens
dall, and Co., and the nine cooperage of Mr. Boyon, were I
situated on either side of the premises on fire, so that to
save them from destruction the most strenuous exertions of
the firemen were necessary to be used. six or seven
branches of the brigade engines were held up in front of
the house, whilst two or three others were carried to the
top of the two adjoining buildings. Mr. Connorton also I
had his engine directed to the same spot, and, owing to the
combined exertions of all present, the fire by 1 o'clock this
morning, although not wholly extinguished, was so far got
under as to allay the fears of the inhabitants as to any fur-
-1 thee extension. The total damage must reach some
thousand pounds. and, owing to the absence of the princi-
pals of the place, it was impossible to learn whether the
sufferers were insured, or anything respecting the cause of
the fire. The building is not absolutely gutted, but every
floor, from the ground story, has been on fire, and the
goods therein must have been partially, if not wholly,
destroyed.
TIMBER DETIES.--It is stated that the contracts
for supplying timber to her Majesty's dockyard* are to be
taken at prices which will not include the duty; in other
words, that the timber is to be served in without any duty
having been paid upon it. The practice hitherto has been
to supply duty-paid timber, and the result of the change
will be to make the navy estimates look lower, sit the ex-
pense of the customs revenue.

THE
MANUFACTURING DISTRICTS.

IMPORTANT EDUCATIONAL MEETING AT
MANCHESTER.
MANCHESTER, Teo. 20.
A few weeks since a report wax given in the
Express of an important meeting held here, in the
mayor's parlour, including churchmen and diesentere, to
consider a new plan of (-duration, of which a draft had been
made by the Rev. C. Itichson, clergyman, in the form of
suggestions for a bill in parliament. At that excreting a
committee was appointed to revise and report upon the
scheme, and they have since published the revised bas
Yesterday afternoon the parties at the meeting appointing
this committee were convened to receive their report, and
the assemblage was at once numerous and very influential.
The Very Rev. the DEAN of MANCHESTER, in tak-
ine the chair, said, the present meeting was held in contin-
uation of one held on the Gth January last, at which they
were pleased to consider that the sche'lle proposed to them
was worthy of more full inquiry, and for that purpose re-
solved themselves into a committee, deeming the subject of
vast importance, and being convinced that it was practicable
to work out a scheme based on the principles which were
then enunciated. (Hear, hear.) The details were left fur
future consideration, and a sub-committee was ap-
pointed to investigate the whole scheme which was
then submitted to their notice, and that committee, acting
under their authority, had assembled from time to time,
since the 10th of January, up to the present hour, working
out, as they conceived, a plan which was now fitted to
receive their best attention. They had employed them-
selves most diligently, and he hoped it would he found
most successfully, in resolving a difficulty which had op-
pressed many minds fur a long period of time. Ile would
not say more on the subject at present, but would cell on
the chairman of the sub-committee to present their report.
Mr. W. EN'f WISLE (late member for the southern
division of Lancashire) said, the sub-committee, in present-
ing their report, had thought it desirable not to cucumber
it by attempting to enter into the arguments and reasons
which had led gentlemen generally to concur in this plan,
inasmuch as it must he obvious that very different reason,
had influenced different parties in concurring with it. One
class of pemons would he induced to approve of the scheme tee
one class of reasons, and another class by a very different
class of reasons. They had thought it best, therefore., to
give their attention to the scheme as it stood, and with the
alterations now effected in it. and to present it in lieu of
any report containing any argument or reason nn which
their conclusions might have been founded. The 'durations'
which had been mask in the scheme by the subcommittee
were not very numerous, and did not involve any derelic-
tion of the principles with which they commenced their
examination. Ile would not, therefore, make any observa-
tions on the minute details of the measure. !tut rather on
its real tenour and scope. The find thing that of course
must strike every gentleman in reading the measure in de
present form, was that it people/sit, by means of a public
rate, levied fur a common olbjert on property gene-
rally in the town, to supply that which was a
common necessity to all (lames of her Majesty's sub-
jects. They proposed to adopt that principle as the
groundwork of their plan, and of course in so doing
they would have to meet objectionswhich might be raised in
venous ways against the source whence they intended to
derive their means. The first objection was that which
arose from gentlemen who advocated the v,:untary system
of education. It had always app. ared to him, with regard
to the arguments raised by those who advocated the volun-
tary principle, that their object' to a Iota: rate applied
rather to the ratepayers and the parents than to those
whose advancement they ought to have in view—namely,
the children who would attend the schools. In answer to
the objections on the more of the rights of conscience of
ratepayers and parents, lie would say that this question of
education could no longer be left in the position we found it
at the 'lmola time. The rights of conscience of the rate-
payer and of the parent ought to have considenition at their
hands; but there was a consideration still more important.
When they looked at the vast youthful pepulation
swarming in their streete, in their factories, and, anforta-
'lately, in their prisons also, they could not refuse to cou-
sider a plan which propostsl to provide them that whirl, he
hoped would take then, nut of the destitute, and
and criminal class, and place them within the ranks of the
educated and intelligent portion of the industrious eomma-
nity, qualified to earn their own livelihood, whether by the
work of their hands, or by the toil of the head. With re-
spect to the means of paying for that education, he believed
the proper and correct course was by means of it public rate
on property, for a COMIIIOII object. In so doing, they found
themselves entirely in union with that scheme, the promo-
ter, of which were increasing in number, and which was
gaining a large share of public support, and advocated by an
association which no doubt comerieed in a great degree the
intelligence and activity of this community. Ile Wind.' to
the gentlemen belonging to what wow called the National
Public School Association. And here he might be pe rinittid
to say that lie deemed it no small recommendation of the
scheme now before the median!, to say that, relthough Ito
believed the National l'ublic Selma, 'Avila., if (-eeriest out
in full, as was proposal, would In incompatible with theirs,
he did not believe that which was now proposed was at all
incompatible with the views of that association, hut was
tulculated to enlist the sympathies and vi• we of a large
number of gentlemen who had given in their adherence to
the secular e. He believes!. for this nsison --they
hail heard it deelared in express terms by one of the mo
influential membem of that association that he had laboured
for many years to prepare some plan to combine all religious
denominations in providing for a xywtem of esluention to
meet the wants of the people ; but, having failed in this
object, and hecome convinced, after long :inil end experi-
ence, that that object was impoolible of annulus. it, hi•
hail adopted—he (Mr.Entwisle) thought t'ey might pneunte
reluetantly--a scheme which was entirely unconnected with
religious teaching. Ile thought it was quite fair to ask the
association to make a fair trial of the scheme now propme tt,
which, if carried nut, would undoubtedly lighten their It-
boors very materially by reviving children within the walls
of schools already provided. Ile thought if the scheme now
under consideration bore a close resemblance to that of the
association, and if it Was Oil a more econoniital system than
they now possested, they had a fair right to expect no in-
considerable sham of sympathy amt support from throe gen-
tlemen. No doubt there might lie amongst those gentlemen
some who thought that, as a mutter of principle, all religious
ti aching ought to be separated as much us possible, if not
altogether, from secular instruction, whether provided out
of is common fund or in public schools at al:. Ile mast
confess that, although he did not feel in a position
to argue the question with gentlemen who held such
an (opinion, his own conviction was diem trieally
opposite, as he held it to be entirely iinpracticabie
to separate altogether religious teaching from secular in-
struction, although he believed they might refuse to teach a
child the distinction between the tenets of one met and an-
other, thus entering the narrow path of polemical teaching,
rather than the great and broad tenets Of a Christian edu-
cation. In his opinion, the scheme we. toile consistent
with that of the National Public School Asowiation, and
had, therefore, a fair claim to the support of those con-
nected with it. The ground was cheer for the formation
of an association, if it should be determined upon, to
rromote the objects they had in view. (Applaus ..)
his measure merely demanded that Bath ahead
adinitftsl into union should open in doom indiscrimi-
nately to all comers. The next principle laid flown in the
measure was, that the education should be provided gratui-
tously. For Ins own part, he regarded this provision as
one of the most valuable of the whole scheme, and
for this reason, it was a very delicate and tera!er
point to touch to talk about compulsion. At pre-
sent they could not compel parents by any enact-
ments, or by the pressure of public opinion, to send
their children to school, but if free education were pro-
vided, he believed a pressure almost amounting to compul-
sion would be brought to bear on their minds. It was quite
reasonable to expect that when such was the case many
persons who had uneducated children in their employment
would say to the parents, " If you will not discharg, your
duty to your child, by providing him an education, I wdl
not consent to keep him longer in my employmeet."
(blear, hear.) Ile believed this would prove a vt ry
great stimulus to parents to scud their children to ech.ed.
Another valuable characteristic of (this mcasure was, the
benefits derived from the public rates would be exactly pro-
portionate to the wants of the people, anti not on the phut
of the present distribution of the parliamentary grants,
which aided parties in proportion to their own exertions,
thus thilheiFiCrr Aricreh.r7val Ihueallviliengadtdllletiopr:.Nh'raudnlmPre7iLkulle:-'ner.
(Hear,
the scheme, in the suggestion for extending it to contiguous
townships, on terms, of course optional on their part, by
which they could place themselves under the same manage-
ment, and be considered as within the respective boruegha
of Manchester or Salford, as the ease might be. Mr.
Entwisle concluded by preontiug the report of the sub-
committee.

The Rev. GEORGE OSBORN moved the first resolu-
tion : " That the report now read be adopted, and that the
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upwards of two millions of persons petitioned parliament
against it, and it was withdrawn. The last charge could
I not certainly be preferred against the present scheme. The
' promoters of this scheme said to the established church—
' " Build your schools, obtain the approbation of the MlA-
mince of privy council, and get the approbation of her
Majesty's tweeters, and you are welcome to your share of
1 the assistance to be derived from the local rates." What
they said to the church schools, &hey said to the British and foreign schools, the Roman catholic schools, the presbyterian
1 schools, and to all other schools. This scheme required
nothing but what all classes of protestants were agreed
upon. They all agreed that the Holy Scripture's contained
. everything necessary to salvation, and all protestant schools
' in which the scriptures were taught were welcome to their
share of the borough rate. (Bear, hear.) lie need not
specify the difference between this scheme and that of the
National Public School Association, nor did he think it
I necessary to enter into any argument on the subject, as he
believed all who were present at that meeting were agreed,
that the relations of man to God were the most important
relations which man sustained, that the value of the pre-
sent life was mainly to li, determined by its kali
life to come, and that the true guide, to eternal we it SS
to be found only in the word of God, (Hear,
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considered the plan of that association, if it est. - ...,
out, would greatly complicate educational - ,es.
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