The Express.
London, England, 1849-07-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRFSS, FRIDAY EVENING, JULY 20, 1849.

Mr. BRIGHT said, that if the hon. member for Mayo ha 4
let fall some warm expressions, he mi2ht be readily e-xcused
for having done so. He was very glai the hon. member had
brought the matter before the bootie. Had he not done so
he (Mr. Bright) should hove felt it his duty to have ask-. 1
the government to what extent an inquiry had been instituted
into the origin of this meat shocking occurrence. The aovetn.-
ment had been blamed for not bootie g brought in an act tor
prohibit ne procro.io sin Ireland. Yet the government was
right. They hoard that the tone which Ireland had aesumei
rendered such a mem!" ne longs, necessary. But
he should like to know whether the law in
Ireland sanctioned the (plow about in processions of
thousands of perenrs, eli of whom, save the women and the
drummers, were armed to the tee.h. Such provisions
would be illegal in En-land. It was only last year
the government • ry properly prevented a procession from
poising through the City, because by so doing disturbances
were likely to be caused. He must ask the government to
explain why the military and police accompanied the orange ,
Procession. (No) The evidet.er he had read said they aid,
front morning until evening. It was clear the provocation
was given by the orange (arty. (No.) That each was the case
the evidence proved. The first shot was bred b an Orange.
man. He must say that, in his opinion, Lord Roden and
where of his eters were the most guilty of all the parties
concern, d, and if the fe-.te pruned to be as they were stated,
be ought to be struck of the C,l2llRillioo of the peace as a
mark of the Meth/nation of the government. He would not
tenet himself to speak to any man on the *abject, his feeiii!gs
were too warm to permit him to do so, pending the en-
quiry.

Sir D. NORREYS hoped that a scorching inquiry would
be Instituted into the origin of this mist atrocious proceeding.
Major BLACKALL rose to inform the hon. member op
posits that armed proleviona were entire ly iilegol in Ireland.
Mr. F. MACLE intteated the house to remember that
only a abort time had elapsed since the melancholy oc
eurrence whica they all deplored had taken plate, and
that government was proceeding to institute an inquiry
into the origin of it.

Mr. MONSELL hoped the government would take some
steps before the svisim closed t) bring in a bill to
st••p prncestions of all sorts in Ireland. He should not
be sausfled until he obtained a promise from the hon. S. cre-
wiry lor Ireland that such a measure should be introduced
and prwid. (11.-sr.

Mr. LABouciiens did not think that it was fait,
oonsiderir.g the inquire was still going on, that such strong
opinions 'noun be used with respect to th' trarmciion.
Government should not undertake, whilst an inquiry was
pending, to pronounce an opinion on an abstract questi
Ile deeply lamentcd the °mutterer, and could only ripest
that the attention of government would be given to this
transaction. He bored the house would not now go on
who the discussion. Uutil t`te facts bad been Acquired into,
they should not prejudge them. Tome was enough to de•
rr and a most searching inquiry—and that inquiry would he
given.
_ _

Mr. REYNOLDS said that the speech of the right bon.
gentleman deo surprised and disappointed him. The hon.
gent'eman called opal the house not to give an opinion upon
an abstract propusiti .n. What did he mean by an atstraat
proposition in connel'on with this massacre ?
Mr. LABOTSCIIERE observed that he alluded to the
question whether poeessions of this nature wire or were not

Mr. REYNOLDS—The charge of the coroner was no
excuse for the murders. The wretched dermas of these mur-
der' were not only calcu'ved to harrew up the feelings of
every Christie n man, and to reflect disgrace on this civilised
country, bet to reflect discredit upon the authorities. If a
Geiranger had wino into the present assemblage, he would
have thought that they were assembled to pronounce a pan. -
gyre on Lord Roden on the one hand, and of the military on
the other. It occurred to him that the author of three
murders was Lord Eeden. That might be exceedingly
unpleasant to bear, hut he believed the facts would tine out
to be so, that ho invited 1,500 men to his grounds, that he
sppoered in the dues of an orangeman, that he read extracts
from the Holy Bible ; that he regaled tLem with beer, porter,
and whi-key, and that they were directed to go • circuitous
enures and • had road, b:e use the immediate district of
Dowbray was inhabited by Roman Caseolies. They deter-
mined to go to the buses of their neighbours to insult them;
they hod a troop of Enaiakillen dragoons riding before them ;
and two temperer, of infantry upon their rear ; they were
guarded in flank by Orange police, and after a
shot from the van of this murderous cavalcade,
they commenced the work of bane. The police
immediately joined in rursuit of the peep's, who were
moot hype, perly called ribbor.mec, • name which was car.
Tied by the enemies of tle pee; le, as a set off against orange.
men. He hi hi in his hmrt a letter wane:. by a gentleman
of chancier end respectability, who 'pent the entire day in
the district where the murders were cumin tted, and who
had siren the names of the parties whose houses were burnt.
The catholic priest's house was burnt, they rubbed the ca-
tholic chapel, they robbed the people of their pro-
perty, they took a grocer's shop into their pollees-
lion, and hiving burnt the house took away the
man's property. It was impossible fen any Irishman
who for d his country, who was anxious to see religious
distinction cease, to restrain his indignation on the content-
planer of this awful event. Lewd Rod .0 was • magistrate ;
Lord Roden was a privy coueciilor! Mr. Ben, the magi,
trate, who encouraged these bloodhounds, was also in the
power of the government. Did they recollect uow the
whir government dealt with C.,lonel Verner, member
for Armegh. He proposed the battle of the Diamond
at one of these July hangover', and Lord Normanby,
to his eternal credit, deprived Colonel "Verntr act
the commission of the pear, for having given
that toast. On a similar occasion Col. Black, who appeared
with an orange sash. was deprived of the commission of
the peace. Hr knew what the government did with Mr.
Watson of Carlow. Was there any doubt as to what was
to be dune with Lord Roden ? lt Lord Roden wu per-
mitted to retain the commission of the pest., or he •
privy councillor, then he said that there was despotism
in Ireland ; then he said that orange ercendancy was ram.
pant in Ireland ; and then he would tell his countrymen,
'e You can have no confidence in the government." It was
hetet sickening to read the evidence before the e eroner's in-
quest. lie intended, on the earliest oecasion, to
ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department whe-
ther these magisterial delinquents were any longer to retain
the commission of the peace.
Dr. NICHOL trusted that hon. members would recollect
that this most lamentable, most disgraceful proceeding had
only occurred within a store period, that government had
been pledged to examine it, the probability was teat judicial
proceedings would be instituted, and nothing ought to be
said or pass which could in any way prejudice the question.
Capt. ARCHDALL was understood to say that he
treated with scorn and contempt the observations which heti
been made by the hen, member for Dublin as to the Orange-
men of Ireland.
Mr. MOORE withdrew his motion.
SALE OF BREAD.

Mr. BANKES moved the second reading of a bill
for preventing frauds in the sale of bread The hen.
member exprcsaed his hope that government would not
oppose the bill.
Mr. LABOUCHERE opposed the further progress of the
bill. The present law provided that the baker should keep
weights and weigh out the bread to the purchaser. The
hon. member proposed that the bread should be weighed out
of the oven and stamped accordingly. lie (Mr. Labouchrre),
feeling that the alteration would greatly embarrass trade and
place reepectable tradesmen at the mercy of informers, felt
bound, however reluctantly, to mese that the bill be read a
second time that day six months.
Sir C. BURRELL supported the bill.
C3pt. PECHELL opposed the bill as calculated to Inter-
fere vexatiously with email tradesmen throughout the
country.
Lord D. Seta= ant Mr. MANGLES took a similar view of
the question.
The gallery was cleared for division but none took place,
the motion having been negatived, and the bill thrown out.
The Dublin Improvement Bill peered through committee,
and the house adjourned at 1 o'clock.

Vte etrorefso.

OUTGOING MAILS.

Mal fee Irina Ninth Amerce and the United State. will be
made up t`..!a evening.
The mails, ne Marseilles, to the Meditovvaneen, Egypt, Ceylon,
lloott-Kone,na..vrill be made upon the evening of Joiy 211 b.
The male for Vino, Oporto, Lieboo, Madeira, Cadiz, and titbralla,
will be made op on the 2.7tb of July.
The Wert ladle Math, intit.dien Bermuda, Ravens. Naomi,
EL, tuna, New Orleans, and Mexico, aaft eariadino those for
atrattia, Bt. Jae-de.wiraregus. New Granada, Chili, sad Pero, wi.
be Lade ao on tbo Ird of august
The mails for Madeira, the Brazils, and Buenos Ayres, will be made
up on tits 4th of Auras..

SIGH WATIR AT LONDON 111111:16/1
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LONDON, FRIDAY, JULY 20.

ALL things combine to stimulate financial re-
formers to redouble their efforts and extend and com-
plete their organisation. Increase of numbers and
growing interest in their adherents out of doors ;
symptoms in parliament of augmented confidence and
ffrmneas in their lead-rs ; of a contagious disposition
among nuofficial members to join their standard, of
wavering and hesitation on the part of government in
its resirrance to them.
The double meeting in the Tower Hamlets is of
good augury. The doors of the place where one
meeting was meant to be held were beset with such
a crowd that half of the leaders felt it necessary to
draw off a part of their forces to another locality.
JOSMA WALMSLEY announced to the as-
sembly over which he presided that the corn-
, mitten ce the aascciation were besieged with
applications from all quarters to make their
movement a national one. He announced
their Mention, in conformity with these requests,
to hold ere long an aggregate meeting in one
of our large London theatres. The demand for par-
liamentary, with a view to obtain finardal reform. is
being made by a unanimous and orgatised people.
Even within the walls of the House of Commons
the cause is undeniably making progress. True,
ministers still resist all proposals for immediate, red
retrerchment ; true, they parade what has already
%men done (or what they allege has been dove) in this
way, as a reason for doing uo'birg more ; tree, they
appeal to the consiste my of members, reminding
them that they have hitherto voted against further
retrenchment as a reason fur their continuing to do
so; and, true, they still command majorities. But the
small compact body of financial reformers in the
house have learned their strength and its source.
They are becoming more firm and uncompromising.
They have compelled government to abate the inde-
cent haste with which it sought to press money votes
thrcugh the heuse. They have availed themselves of
the time gained to place in a strong light its wanton
and profuse expenditure. They have excited the emu-
lation of the country gentlemen, who, though their
attempts at playing the part of economists have been
Eccisionally awkward and bungling enough, have,
by the-e attempts, committed themselves to the ;yin-
elide of retrenchment. They have elicited declara-
tions from men who have I eld high office—front men
like Sir JAMES GRAHAM and Mr. VERNON SMlTH—
that greater economies may be, end ought to be,
made in public expenditure than have yet been made.
And last, and most important of all, amid these indi-
cations that the rause of financial reform is advanc-
ing, Lord lons Russell, has shown symptoms of
quailing before them.
On Wednesday, Lord JOHN Husseht. concluded the
hackneyed and unmeaning talk about the necessity
of maintaining huge military stores and great num-
bers of troot s in our colonies, with which he sought to
parry Mr. COBDEN'S merciless exposure of ordnance
extravagance by solemnly disavowing any intention
to form new establishments, and pledging himself
(next jeer though) to step all wasteful expendi-
ture for the colonies. We place little Nth in
mini-terial promises to reduce expenditure: here-
after provided honourable members will only ab-
stain from importuning them at present; but
Lord drones attempt to evade rather than resist
the c,.11 for retrenchment, shows his conscious-
ness that : resistance will not be much longer
praeticable. lie already contemplates the possibility
of his having to ask a parley with a view to offer
terms. It has been said that the woman who deli-
berates is lost, and the minister who resists popular
demands is not in a much more hopeful condition
when the thought that he may one day be obliged to
yield onc,r crosses his mind.
The reception which Mr. Dnustmosn's motion met
with last night in the llouse of Commons corrobo-
rates the inference necessarily drawn from the symp-
toms upon which we have been dilating.
Mr. DRUMMOND'S motion went to affirm that more
money is levied by taxation than is required to main-
tain a geed and efficient government ; that large
sums are expended upon needless places, extrava-
gant salaries, useless works and establishments; that
this excess of taxation diminishes the fund for the
employment of productive labour to an extent se-
verely felt by all, end especially by the working
classes; and that, therefore, adequate means should
forthwith be artopted to reduce the expenditure of
government. The debate upon this motion was cha-
racterised by an unwonted degree of dramatic in-
terest.

The mover may fairly be said to have broken
down in his opening speech. He commenced by dis-
claiming faction.' motives. He went on to assign
reasons for thinking that the bonds of party were re-
lazed and falling off: He cited instances to show
how the sprit of party survived its efficacious organi-
sation. He disavowed any intertion of blaming the
existing government any more than all their prede-
cessors for the system he assailed. He then proceeded
to illustrate the =squat pressure of taxation on the
poor • but, after citing one or two illustrative cases,
stopPed short, and without further preface submitted
his motion to the house. The CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER rushed to take advantage of this failure.
Ile taunted Mr.DRUMMOND with having given utter-
ance to one or two impracticable notions, which,
however, had no direct bearing on the question
at issue. He elaborately exposed these irrelevant ab-
surdities. He assumed high ground, and boastfully
recounted (for the fourth time within these few
weeks) all the petty savings in detail
eff cted of late years by, himself and colleagues. He
then aeain turned off into an irrelevant dismission,
indulging in sundry small sneers at the various and
inconsistent reasons weigned by the minority who
voted in support of Mr. HENLEY'S motion. And he
concluded by opposing 31r. DRUMMOND'S motion on
th aground that it implied a censure upon ministers.
Bf, the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER'S triumph,
if ever he felt any, was soon abated. Mr. Hums
came to the rescue of Mr. DRUMMOND. He alluded
sarcastically to Sir CHARLFS'S thrice-told tale of
penny-halfpenny savings, and at once brought back
the attention of the house to the question really be-
fore them. He exposed the wanton and profligate
expenditure upon oar defensive establishments, in-
curred principally through their uncalled-for magni-
tude, and aggravated by systematic mismanagement
and favouritism. He demolished the whole array of
petty economies, by showing that while 1001. had
been saved in this deportment, and 1,000/. in that
the aggregate annual expenditure had gone on in-
creasing. Mr. Hulre'repudiated the idea of intrend-
ing to censure the present government, but as ;,fined
unanswerable arguments for voting in support, of the
motion. His speech was warmly received, ,utd eter
he had sat down he was followed by Ms, Ewmor,
who pointed out the expediency of eat ending direct
taxation; Mr. MILNER GIBSON, who explained that
though he moved the previous
question on Mr.
DRUMMOND'S motion to go into committee on the
proposal he had now moote4;, knowing nothing
would come of such a step, he could not refuse his
assent to the abstract prov/cv,ition; and by Colonel
THOMPSON. While these
gentlemen in succubi=
poured is their shot on t'ne financial system in which
ministers ',mist, no colleague or partisan og the
CHANCELLOR of they EXCHEQUER cams to his assist-
once.
When the e.ebate had reached this stage, Lord
-dveNon attempted a diversion in favour
of minietete. He moved an amendment on Mr.
ROBERT Gine
DnrltmoNn's motion, to the effect that if there wan
certain sal zics too large, others might not be is
than sufficient for the duties performed, and that
therefore an inquiry ought to precede any affirmative
declaration on the subject. The drift of his amend-
ment was palpable ; it offered ministers a chance of
beine4 let down easily. It betrayed an uneasy ap-
prehension that they might be left in a minority, or
only enabled to tide over the shoal before them by a
majority so small as to be litU, better than a mint.,
rity. But the relentless ROEBUCK pounced at once

upon the pod-natured feather-bed which sought to
ii.ttrpore itself—

'Twist cantle wall
And heavy brunt of cannon balL"

Mr. ROERUCH frankly avowed that whatever other
members might think, he considered the motion
equivalent to a vote of censure upon ministers, and
supported it on that ace.enot. He reminded the
ministerial bench and its retainers of Sir HENRY
PARNELL'S motion, aluanat identical witii that of Mr.
DRUMMOND, by means of which they had turned a
tory gov.rnasent out of office long years ago. Ile
denounced the want of principle which had not only
not acted in ecniforaii, to the principles of
that motion, but had actually launched into
greater extravagance. He showed how the pre
sent disturbed state of the contineat assured
the safety of this country, its impunity from f 'reign
aggression. He enlarged in a strain of reriking
eloquence upon the infamy of a government which
professed reform and literal views persisting in extra-
vagant expenditure or re dless armaments, and ex-
hausting the means cf the poor in order to maintain
an arrogant and ostent.tious position in the eyes of
the world. He showed how such a frivolous and
heartless policy weakened, lest, ad of strengthening,
the nation's capacity for defence against unjust
aggression.. Mr. Roeisuee's speech wee, through-
out, in his lumpiest and most powerful vein. Lord
JOHN RUSSELL rose at its termination, lees to reply
to it, than to accept with humble thankfulness the
mediatolial interposition of Lord Runner GROS-
VENOR. But even this palpable appeal ad misrri-
cordiam availed ministers little. The original
motion was carried by a majority of three.
We unhesitatingly claim this as a victory for
financial reform. Tne ministry have not ventured
to deny the exigence of the abuses complained
of. If the phalanx of financial reformers in
the House of Commons continue firm, active, and
inflexible, and if the adherents of the cause
out of doors continue to manifest their
Increasing numbers and zeal, success at no
distant dute is certain. But they must stick to
their point. Inquiries into proved abuses are mere
shams, out of which nothing comes. The national
expenditure is exeeesive; the cause of the excess is
our overgrown and aristocratically-mismanaged army
and navy; the excess entails suffering upon all
classes, utter destitution on the labouring poor. We
want no inquiry into facts so notorious as these: we
went to have the injustice and oppression redressed,
and thst without delay.

TERMS OF THE ARMISTICE BETWEEN
PRUSSIA AND DENMARK.

A suspension of hostilities, both by sea and land,
for six months, is agreed to. At the close of this
period the armistice, if not to be renewed, is to con-
tinue six weeks longer. The Prussian and German
troops are to be withdrawn from Jutland within 25
days after the ratification of the armistice, and to
take up the position assigned to them in the articles
agreed on. The generals on either aide are to agree
up in a line of demarcation extending from Flensburg
on the south to Toudern on the nc.rth. During the
continuanse of the armistice Prussia is allowed to
keep 6,000 men on the south aide of the line. The
part of Schleswig which is to the north of the line is
to be occupied by 2,000 neutral troops. The King of
Swelen is to be requested to furnish these troops.
The King of Denmark is to bear the costa hereby fe-
-1 curral. The islands of Alsen and Aroe are toremain
in the occupation of the Amish troops. The blockade
is to be raised as soon as the German troops have
bet n moved to the south of Flensburg. The orders
for 'Keir retreat, and f,r the removal of the bier kade,
are to be issued at the same time. The captured
vessels, with their cargoes, are to be restored on both
Fides. If the cargoes have perished compensation is
to be made. The emtributions in money and horses
exacted in Jutland ere to be repaid.
Commissioners are to be app.‘inted by bath parties
to estimate their amount, and if they cannot agre2, an
English commissioner is to be added as ump;re. All
prisoners are to be exchanged at Flensburg
within 25 days after the ratification. During the
continuance of the armistice the Duchy of Schleswig
is to be governed by a commission ; of which one
member is to be nominated by the King of 1). nmark,
one by the King of Prussia. The Queen of England
is to be requested to nominate a third member, who is
to decide in all ceecs when the other two cannot
agree. The commise'on is to govern in conformity to
the existing laws. It is empowered to repeal all laws
enacted since the 17th of March, 1810, of which it
does not approve. It can call out the troops stationed
in the different parts of the duchy, for the purpose of
maintaining order. It ie, in concert with the King o'
Denmark, to decide what flag the ships of Schleswig
are to sail under. The rest of the German states are
to be invited to accede to the armistice, and on their
accession they ate to be admitted to the benefit of all
its provisions, The ratifications are to be exchanged
within eight days.

LA PLATA.—There era a few days later tulvices
in Liverp'.ol from nutmeg Ayres, but no news. Ex-
change ruled V.

Vbe Court.

Ontomeg, TRUBSDAV.—The QUICII held a Pr:7
Council yesterday at one o'clock, which was attended by ills
R Highness P ,yal Highnerince Albert, the Marquis of Lansdowne,
Sir George Grey, Vi-count Palmerston, Earl Grey, Sir
Francis Baring, Lord eamphill, the Marquis u! Clanricarde,
ana Earl Portman. The Hon. William Bathurst officiated
as Clerk of the Council. His Excellency M. Drouyn de
Lhays, Ambassador front the Fremb Republic, was intro-
duced to Her Majesty by Viscount Palmerston, and had the
honour of presenting his credentials. Alter the council the
above noble personages partook of a luncheon, and then re-
turned to London with Om exception of the Marquis of
Lmodewne, and Sir o,orge Grey, who were honoured by an
inve•ation to remain at Osborne.
There was no titan addition to the usual royal dinner
patty.

A deputation of noblemen and gentlemen repre-
senting the principal railway companies had an interview,
ye:terdsy, with Lord Jvhn Russell, at his official residence
in Downing-street, re,pt‘cting the Audit of Railway
Accounts Bill. The tiolle lord was accompanied by the
Right Hon. Henry Lebouchere, President of the Bard of
Trade, and by the Right Hon. Sir Edward Ryan, one of the
Commissioner of Railways. The deputation was headed
by the Earl of Linsdale, and included Mr. George Carr
Glyn, Mr. Charles Ruin il, Mr. Chaplin, the Earl of Powis,
Viscount Villiers, Mr. Lacy, Colonel Reid, and Mr. Stun.
dem
The Commission to inquire into the application of
iron to railway structures, accompanied by Mr. Hood, endi-
neer to the El ighton line, Mr. Crewe, locomotive superin-
tendent, and the Astronomer &lel, proceeded on Wednes-
day, to make experiments on the Ewell-bridge, on the
Epsom and Croydon line.

THE VACANT JUDGESIIIP.—The rumour prevails
that it M not Mr.Warson who is to be promoted to the
vacant judgeship, but Sir Fred. Theeiger. We need
not say with what changes and coalitions such an ap-
pointment is connected.

UNIVERSITY AND CLERICAL.
VritTzasiry or DURHAIIt —Four fellow/Mrs in this uni-
versity have been declared new they will be filled up in
November.

PHIFEHMENTS.—Rev. JOHN °LIMO/OBS to St. Kew V.,
dio. Ent.; 4011., with residence; pat., Lsay
Grenville.
it.,. G. B. Pairrimprx, to the head-mestership of he
Humberstore School, lincolnehire
Rev. T H BIRD. to Yarkhill V., dio. Hereford ; 3501.;
pat., the Dean and Canons of Hereford.

NAVAL.
ADMIRALTY, JULY 19.—APPOINTWENTS.—T0 Peril•lll—.
Surgcon: Miller. Ambr.-Siirgeon: S. Wade. Naval
Cadet : W. Kellet —To Stromboli —Mate : M. S. L. Neils.
—To Hen-Ides . —Master: J. Bowles.—To Centaur —Mo-
tors-Assistant :8. D. Switzer.—To Coast Guard—Chief
Officer: W. It. Brooman.
PORTAMOVTII, JuLT 19.—Childers, 12, Commander Pit-
man, from the East ladies, arrived this aftanoon, having
left the Cape of Good Hope on May 26, leaving there
Southampton (flag-ship), Geyser, and Dee (steamers) ; gal-
led at St. Helena on the 6th, and Ascension on the 10th ult.,
at which date iLeceuii wu healthy. Lieut. G. A. Eller
man, invalided, has come home by Childers, from Orestes.
Sea Lark (brig) had just lined from Ascension, where line
rains had fallen prior to Childers arriving.

COMMISSIONS SIGNED BY THE Loart-Lizotan),NT
OP ABBB.DBB.YeBIYB•—Right Hon. F. A. K. Facolvo. Earl
of Kintyre; A. Bannerman, Esq., your.ger and J. cordon,
Esq., to be Deputy. Lieutenants.
ATTEMPTED Mt TlNT.—nitchell and Weed, the
two principals in the prol•jcted mutiny on board the
ship Yak, from New Orli.eana to Liverpool (tb e particulars
of which have already been published), Wm'', on Saturday
emamitted to. tav their trial at the app•roschiog assizes.
IThe rest of ICI, crew have been bound o'rer to prosecute.—
LiesvpoPi Times.