1917-09-01

REPORT PRESENTED.

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Eighth Annual Report of the Commission of Conservation, for the fiscal year ending 31st March, 1917.-Hon. Mr. Burrell.

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Bill No. 129, to amend the Companies Act so as to provide for the incorporation by Letters Patent of Corporations for purposes other than that of gain-Sir Thomas White.
Bill No. 130, relating to War Charities.- Sir Thomas White.

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On the Orders of the Day:
Hon. FRANK OLIVER (Edmonton):: A special cable to the Ottawa Journal, dated London, August 31, contains the following:
The (British) Government cannot purchase in Canada bacon and lard owing to the limitations placed on it by the Imperial Treasury, as America is ready to finance contracts while Canada is not. As regards private buying, the Canadian prices are too high for Britain.
I would ask the Minister of Trade and Commerce if there is any foundation for this dispatch?


Sir THOMAS WHITE (Minister of Finance) :: I do not think the Minister of Trade and Commerce (Sir George Foster) would have been in a position to answer, because 
that is merely a newspaper report which may or may not be authentic. I think I can say that the Government has no definite information in respect to the matter.



WAYS AND MEANS.

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The House in Committee of Ways and Means, Mr. Rainville in the Chair.
William Thomas White: That towards making good the Supply granted to His Majesty on account of certain expenses of the public service for the financial year ending 31st March, 1918, the sum of $51,681,871.90 be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of Canada.


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Motion agreed to.
William Thomas White: That towards making good the Supply granted to His Majesty on account of certain expenses of the public service for the financial year ending 31st March, 1917, the sum of $4,821,217.80 be granted out of the Consolidated Revenue Fund of Canada.


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Motion agreed to.
Resolutions reported and concurred in.

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Sir THOMAS WHITE thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 128 for granting to His Majesty certain sums of money for the public service for the financial year ending 31st March, 1918.
Motion agreed to, and Bill read the first time.

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House again in Committee of Supply, Mr. Dugald Stewart in the chair.
Department of the Secretary of State-To provide for one clerkship in First Division, Subdivision A, $2,800; to provide for four clerkships in Second Division, Subdivision B, 2 at $1,250,
2 at $1,150, $4,800 ; to provide for the administration of the Companies' Act, $5,000-$12,600.
['2139-3186. " VI: 5271-6094.']
Mr. MURPHY:: I presume on account of the increased work in the Department of the Secretary of State, additional clerkships have been provided. There is an item here of $5,000 to provide for the administration of the Companies Act. What is that vote for?


Mr. MEIGHEN:: The $5,000 for the administration of the Companies Act is to be withdrawn. A revision of the Companies Act has been introduced by the leader of the Senate, and it has b^en found impossible to go on with it this session. So this item will be withdrawn.


Sir WILFRID LAURIER:: Then there is a motion to reduce the amount to $7,600?


Arthur Meighen: Yes, it will be reduced to that amount. The hon. member for Russell (Mr. Murphy) was not quite right in regard to the additional -clerkships. This is simply to provide for the promotion of certain clerks, and this item is necessary to comply with the provisions of the Act to amend the Civil Service Act. I move to strike out the item of $5,000.


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Motion agreed to.
Miscellaneous expenses under the Canada Temperance Act-further * amount required, $5,000.
['Yes, it will be reduced to that amount. The hon. member for Russell (Mr. Murphy) was not quite right in regard to the additional -clerkships. This is simply to provide for the promotion of certain clerks, and this item is necessary to comply with the provisions of the Act to amend the Civil Service Act. I move to strike out the item of $5,000.']
Arthur Meighen: It is impossible to tell,
I am informed, so far in advance, what moneys will be required for the administration of this Act, for the reason that we cannot tell how many counties will ask for the vote to be taken on the adoption of the Act. These moneys are required for six constituencies in which a vote is now to be taken, but- chiefly to take care of the constituencies of Quebec and Quebec City. In view of the opposition there, it is necessary to hold an inquiry called an enquete, and the expenditure there will be considerable. The other constituencies are Compton and Missisquoi, in Quebec; Fredericton and Sunbury and Charlotte in New Brunswick.


Mr. CARVELL:: Could the hon. gentleman give me any information as to the position of the Bill in the Senate? I suppose I can hardly expect an answer to that question now. There is a provision in the Bill which passed this House and went to the Senate which affects my own constituency, and that is the reason I ask the question. A prohibitory law came into effect in New Brunswick on 1st May, but it does not take effect until these counties which have adopted the Canada Temperance Act -get that Act out of the way. There was a -proposal that, in many cases, we might suspend the operation of the Canada Temperance Act by an Order in Council, and provision to that effect is included in the Bill. A petition has been sent to the Secretary of State-I do not know whether it is in Ottawa yet-from the counties of Charlotte and Carleton, Now Brunswick. The vote was to take place in Charlotte on 21st September. I have received a number of letters in the last ten days inquiring as to what was going to be done. Have we to go on and hold the election, in order to get rid of the Canada Temperance Act, or can we get rid of it by Order in Council?


Arthur Meighen: The Bill my hon. friend
refers to passed this House, but is not yet through the Senate?


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I believe it is not yet through the Senate.


Arthur Meighen: I will make inquiry. The matter might be spoken to on the Orders of the Day on Monday or Tuesday next.


Wilfrid Laurier: If it passes the Senate, what then?
Mr. MfilGHEN: I could not say what the Government's course would be. We would have no power at all until it passes the Senate. I will make inquiry, and I will endeavour to obtain an answer.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I have a letter from the chief inspector of the province, pleading for an answer to the question, and I am unable to tell him exactly what might happen.


Mr. SINCLAIR:: I would like to know the policy of the Government with regard to this matter, as it affects my constituency. The Canada Temperance Act is in force in the constituency I have the honour to represent, and some of the people are opposed to having it repealed. There appears to he a difference of opinion as to whether it would be wise to repeal it or not.
I want to know if it is the intention of the Government, by Order in Council, to repeal the Canada Temperance Act without any reference to the people of the constituency, or the county council, or any authority in the constituency?


Arthur Meighen: 
John Howard Sinclair: I would be glad to ascertain the views of the people if I could, and do anything I could to assist the minister in dealing with the question, but I must say that I do not altogether like the provisions. The policy of local option is a good one, and when the people vote for a measure and have it made law in the county it would be a little extreme to abolish it without any reference to them. But I am not sure what is the best policy to adopt. I would like to know whether

the Government intend to take that step without any reference to the authorities in the county concerned?


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: The minister will pardon me for .answering a question that is not directed to me. I think I can assist him to some extent. Under the Canada Temperance Act there must be -<a petition signed by twenty-five per cent of the qualified' electors asking the Government to submit to the people a proposal either to adopt or to repeal the Act. We in New Brunswick have asked that when we have complied with these conditions precedent and have finished the petition signed by the necessary twenty-five per cent of the electors, the Government shall suspend the operation of the Act by Order in Council. The result would be that the Prohibition Act would automatically come into force. The reason why we have asked for that is that there is a provision in the New Brunswick legislation that there shall be a plebiscite upon the question whether or not the prohibition law shall continue. If t'he general prohibition law should be defeated, we would rather fall back upon the Canada Temperance Act by having the Order in Council repealed. That is the proceeding that we are trying to work out in New Brunswick, and I am sure it was what was in the mind of the Government when this Bill was introduced.


Arthur Meighen: As I understand the
hon. gentleman's explanation, it is this: Action by the Government merely suspends, whereas action by a vote of the constituency permanently repeals. It follows, he says, that where there is a petition of twenty-five per cent of the electors in the county in favour of such procedure, it is preferable that the Government should act by suspension rather than wait for the vote.


Mr. MARCIL:: I did not understand the explanation given by the minister with regard to what was intended to be done in Quebec.


Arthur Meighen: The Government has no special policy, of course, with regard to that province.


Charles Marcil: Applications have been received from some constituencies, I understand, in Quebec.


Arthur Meighen: From the constituencies of Quebec city, Compton and Missisquoi.


Charles Marcil: What is to be done in Compton and Missisquoi?


Arthur Meighen: Elections under the
Canada Temperance Act are to take place in the three constituencies that I have named. We are providing $5,000 to cover the expense of these elections, particularly that of the election in Quebec, where there is very much opposition. The $5,000 covers the cost of administering these three elections and the three in New Brunswick.


Charles Marcil: The Canada Temperance Act is not in force in Missisquoi at present?


Arthur Meighen: No.


Charles Marcil: ,1 see in the Gazette today a notice that a petition has been received from Quebec city signed by over 8,000 electors; that Mr. Antoine Gobeil has been appointed returning officer, and that voting has been fixed for the 4th of October. Is that information correct?


Arthur Meighen: I have no reason to think that it is incorrect.


Charles Marcil: Mr. Gobeil was the former Deputy Minister of Public Works in the province of Quebec. I am glad to know that a vote is to be taken in Quebec city, because there would be some difficulty in taking the vote under the provincial Act. There is a provision in that Act that there shall be only one polling booth in the whole city. I suppose that under the Canada Temperance Act the polling booths would be numerous and the vote would be taken under rules similar to those which prevail in a Dominion election?


Arthur Meighen: I think so.


Mr. CARROLL:: There are only two counties in Nova Scotia now under the operation of the Canada Temperance Act, and I do not think it would make much difference whether the Canada Temperance Act were revoked by Order in Council or by reference to the people. We have a prohibition law in Nova Scotia, and when the Canada Temperance Act goes out, -the other comes in. If application were made to the Government for the putting out of the Canada Temperance Actv there would be a saving to the Government if the necessary action were taken by Order in Council. I think the people of Nova Scotia are inclined to believe that they will not have the license system there in future. There can be no such thing as local option in Nova Scotia to-day. There was what was known as the Nova Scotia Temperance Act, but when the Canada Temperance Act was voted out of existence in any particular county, the

Nova Scotia License Act came into force. They did have licenses in a few municipalities, but to-day there can be no licenses at all.
Miscellaneous-to provide tor the expenses of the Commissioners, and other disbursements in connection with the Royal Commission to review the findings of the Hon. Mr. Justice Galt, $5,500.


Mr. PUGSLEY:: Will the minister explain this item?
Mr. ME1GHEN: The commission sat in Montreal for thirty-five days. The expenditure is not all settled, but so far it amounts to $4,800. It covers the expenses of one commissioner, $835, the official reporter, $696; counsel, $2,156; secretary, $800, rent of office, $215, incidentals, $100. There still remain the expenses of the other commissioner and a few incidentals.


Mr. A. K. MACLEAN:: Upon what ground is this Parliament asked to vote money to pay for expenditures in connection with that commission?


Arthur Meighen: Because the commission was appointed under the authority of Parliament.


Wilfrid Laurier: Under the authority of this Government, not of this Parliament.


Arthur Meighen: Parliament passed the
Inquiries Act; this Commission was appointed under that Act.


Charles Marcil: Is this ta matter of Dominion jurisdiction.


Arthur Meighen: Yes.


Charles Marcil: I thought it related to
Manitoba affairs.


Arthur Meighen: It does not refer to
Manitoba legislation.


William Pugsley: Under what provision of the Inquiries Act can there be an inquiry into an investigation held under commission by a government of >a province.


Arthur Meighen: I have not the Inquiries Act before me, but I am pretty sure that the Order in Council authorizing this inquiry purports to be under the authority of the Inquiries Act. The Inquiries Act is very wide.


William Pugsley: If I remember rightly,
the Inquiries Act has reference only to matters connected with management of a . department of the Dominion Government. I do not see how the report of a Commissioner
appointed by a provincial Government has anything to do with any of the departments of the federal Government.


Arthur Meighen: It would appear to the ordinary mind that the report of a King's Bench judge of a province reflecting seriously on the head of a department of Canada would form the subject of an inquiry that this House would be concerned with.


William Pugsley: That is true, but this House might perhaps appoint a committee to inquire into such a matter. This does not affect the head of the department as such; it affects the minister only when he was a member of a provincial government; it relates to conduct some years ago when he was not connected with this Government at all. A commission might just as well issue to investigate the conduct of any member of this House when he was in charge of some office not connected with the Government of Canada at all.


Arthur Meighen: I remember that was
the stand taken by my hon. friend' (Mr. Pugsley) some years ago. He is quite consistent now in taking the same stand; but then as now, we take higher ground. We take the ground that the previous public conduct of a minister of the Crown is a matter of present importance if the man concerned is still a minister of the Crown.


Wilfrid Laurier: That is not
the position which was taken years ago.


Arthur Meighen: That was the position
taken in 1910 by this side of the House.


Wilfrid Laurier: Quite the reverse.


Arthur Meighen: Oh, no.


Wilfrid Laurier: Oh, yes.


Arthur Meighen: The position taken then on this side was, and the position taken in England has always been, that anything that affects the honour of a public man elevated to the post of minister of the Crown, although the matter may have antedated his elevation to the post of minister of the Crown, was a matter of immediate public importance; that there really was no distinction in time arising from the fact that the subjects in question did antedate his elevation any more than should they be immediately concerning the conduct of his present department.


Wilfrid Laurier: The position
which was taken years ago by the Conservative side of the House in regard to a commission headed by Mr. Justice Landry to

investigate the conduct of some members of the New Brunswick Government was that the report of that commission was a judgment, that the commission was a court of justice and that therefore the decision of that court was not revisable by tbis Parliament. This Parliament has no right to revise a decision of a court of justice. The position taken by the present Minister of Labour (Mr. Crothers) at that time was exactly what I said, namely, that the commission was a court of law, and that its judgment was final. He would not even look into the evidence. He took the judgment just as it was and contended that this Parliament had to accept it just as it was. We then, sitting on the other side, did not admit that at all. During this session I stated that the report of a commission is simply the opinion of a man of high character as to certain events which took place at a certain time. I do not think even the Minister of Labour will contend otherwise. The very fact that lie acquiesced in having the opinion of Mr. Justice Galt revised by this commission is proof positive that, in his opinion, the judgment of Mr. Justice Galt was not equivalent to a judgment of a court of law. When the hon. gentleman who was then Minister of Public Works was not satisfied with that report, the Parliament of Canada was not entrusted with the matter of reviewing the findings, but the Government chose to take action under the authority of the Inquiries Act. I am not prepared at the present moment to say whether the Government had or had not jurisdiction. We can discuss that point later on, because I presume, before we separate, the Government will set a day for the discussion of the new report which was laid upon the table of the House.


Arthur Meighen: I think my statement
of the position taken then was. correct. It is true, we took the stand that the judgment of Mr. Commissioner Landry of that date was of the nature of a judgment of a court of law, although not in precise terms such a judgment. Consequently, while it stood, Parliament could not shut its eyes to it. But that does not say that Parliament should reverse it. We have not reversed it here; we treat it simply as being in the nature of a judgment of a court of law and subject to the incidents of any judgment of any court of law, namely, subject to revision by a tribunal of the same nature but of higher status. We did not presume ourselves to sit in judgment over the findings of Mr. Justice Galt. We appoint a tribunal of similar character, but

of higher status, to review that judgment. That is all. The same stand as we took then we take now. While that judgment-stands, Parliament cannot shut its eyes to it. That is the doctrine followed in England, and we follow it here. When it is reversed by a judgment of a tribunal of similar character but of a higher status


Wilfrid Laurier: How is the
present tribunal higher than that of Mr. Justice Galt?


Arthur Meighen: It was higher first of all in that the senior member of the tribunal was the Chief Justice of a province-the Chief Justice of Manitoba is surely higher than Mr. Justice Galt. Secondly, the tribunal was higher in point of-numbers.


William Pugsley: How is the Chief Justice of Manitoba higher than a judge of t)he King's Bench of Manitoba?


Arthur Meighen: The Chief Justice oi
Manitoba is higher than a judge of the King's Bench of Manitoba.


William Pugsley: But the judges in question are of different provinces.


Arthur Meighen: The provinces are equal. Therefore it follows mathematically that the status of the same courts are equal. The King's Bench of Manitoba is not the highest court of that province. There is a court above that; and above that again, there is the Chief Justice.


William Pugsley: Why did you not appoint him?


Arthur Meighen: We appointed a man ot the same status. I do not think my hon. friend does very great credit to his province when he says that the Chief Justice of New Brunswick is not of the same status as the Chief Justice of Manitoba. I do not think he would be thanked by the Bench or Baa- of New Brunswick for that statement.


Charles Marcil: The minister cannot take that ground with regard to Mr. Justice Tel-lier. He has ceased to be a judge; he has retired.


Arthur Meighen: I do not think his status falls or his qualifications are diminished on account of his retirement. The status of the other commissioner was undoubtedly equal to, if not higher than that of Mr. Justice Galt, and from the point of numbers., of course, they 'had a right to review, on the same principle that in various provinces in Canada a court en banc sits as a court of appeal over the judgments of mem-

bers of a court of the same status-simply by virtue of numbers, they become a higher tribunal.


William Pugsley: The minister says that the Chief Justice of New Brunswick has a higher status than a judge of the King's Bench of Manitoba. Would he suggest for a single moment that any person could appeal from the judgment of a judge of the King's Bench of Manitoba to the Chief Justice of another province?


Arthur Meighen: He could not unless
Parliament authorized him to do so.


William Pugsley: Parliament has not that power.


Arthur Meighen: Yes, acting under the Inquiries Act, passed by this Parliament, we have that power. If my hon. friend will read the Order in Council, which recites the Inquiries Act, he will find he had a basis for it.


William Pugsley: Let me read the section of the Inquiries Act, chapter 124 of the Revised Statutes of Canada:
The Governor in Council may, whenever he deems it expedient, cause inquiry to be made into and concerning any matter connected with the good government of Canada or the conduct of any part of the public business thereof.
It does seem to me a most absurd thing to say that this Government could appoint a commission to reverse the report-or rather the expressed opinion, because as my hon. friend has stated, it was only an opinion-of a commissioner appointed by the provincial government to inquire into certain transactions connected with the administration of the affairs of that province. What the Inquiries Act provides is that in any matter connected with the good government of the Dominion, a subject over which this Parliament has jurisdiction, or connected with the public business of Canada, there may be inquiry. I should think that the Government of Manitoba could to-morrow, with equal reason, appoint another judge to revise and express an opinion upon the report of Chief Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier. And what a farce that would be ! It seems to me the only proper course to take would be the course that was taken in 1909, when this Parliament was asked to inquire into the evidence and form its judgment upon the question whether a person occupying a seat in the Government was worthy to be continued in that office. But the result of this Government appointing commissioners to revise the opinions of commissioners appointment by a provincial government can only be of the most farcical character. I understand that $2,100 is to be paid to counsel. Who appointed counsel?


Arthur Meighen: The commissioners.


William Pugsley: The counsel was Mr. Teed?


Arthur Meighen: Yes.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I do not intend to discuss this question now, because my right hon. friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) has intimated that there will be another opportunity. What I cannot understand is this: suppose that the two members of the Bench whom the Government appointed to revise the finding in a purely local affair in the province of Manitoba had brought in a report that did not suit the Government; would there be any objection to appointing three more judges to see if they could bring in a decision that would suit the Government?


Arthur Meighen: We would never do that.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: If my hon. friend would take that ground, and not the ground that this was in the interest of the public, he would get along very much better. While the Solicitor General (Mr. Meighen) has a very acute legal mind, and argued his case as well 'as he possibly could, he must have realized that it was hard going to argue that the Chief Justice of New Brunswick and a retired judge of the province of Quebec formed a court that in some way had a right to reverse the finding made by a Manitoba judge, without calling witnesses and without going over the evidence thoroughly. Mr. Justice Galt made a finding after he had bad the opportunity of seeing the witnesses and observing their demeanour on the stand, which helped him form an opinion whether they were telling the truth or not. It is an elementary principle of law, which every lawyer in the House learnt in his first year when he was at Blackstone, that except in a very flagrant case a court of review will not interfere with the finding of facts made by a judge in the first instance on the ground that he had the ad* vantage ot observing the demeanour of witnesses in coming to his conclusions. Mr. Justice Galt came to a certain conclusion,^partly from certain evidence that was taken before him, and partly from the manner of the witnesses in giving their evidence. Then this Government appoints two other men, who never saw one of the witnesses, and who could not possibly have
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gone over all the evidence in that time- they may have glanced over it, but they could not possibly have had time to read all the evidence, all the exhibits, and everything like that. Then these two judges say, "We find differently." What weight can be attached to a finding under those circumstances? But I am not going to discuss that now. I should like to know on what reasoning this Government asks this country to pay $5,500 to defray the expenses of this commission. I think I am correct in saying that when this commission was appointed some member of the Government informed the House that the commissioners were acting without salary. I know from personal knowledge that one of the commissioners was acting without salary. Where, then, does the $5,500 come in? My hon. friend says that counsel was appointed. Counsel for whom? Counsel to assist the gentleman whose conduct was being investigated? No counsel was appointed for the country, because nothing was done; they did not call witnesses, except the gentleman whose conduct was being investigated, who, I understand, appeared before the commissioners and made a statement. No witnesses were called, and there was no argument. The public does not know what took place, or whom counsel represented, if it was not the gentleman whose conduct was under examination. Does the Government ask this country to pay $5,500 to defray the expenses of counsel for the Hon. Mr. Rogers? That is about what it means. I know that one counsel who was there was not representing the gentleman whose conduct was being investigated; he was not there representing the people. I cannot reveal personal matters, but I will take the responsibility for saying that he was there simply to assist Mr. Justice McLeod. Now if Mr. Justice McLeod was receiving no salary, by what right does the Government appoint somebody else to go in and do his business?-because that is what it amounts to.
I have no objection whatever to the gentleman who received the salary. He is one of the best lawyers in Canada, and no doubt rendered valuable services. I hope he got a good fee out of it. (I may say that I adjourned legal actions in order to give him an opportunity to finish up this matter.) At the same time. I must seriously object to the people of Canada being called upon at this late date to reimburse the men who paid those fees. I think we ought to have a pretty clear explanation from the minister as to who employed these gentlemen,

how much they were receiving, the conditions of their employment, and generally, the reasons why the country is being called upon to pay the expenses of defending the gentlemen who were attacked.


Mr. CROTHERS:: I would like to say a word in reply to the reference made by my right hon. friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) to a motion made in this House in May, 1909, asking the House in substance to express its disapproval of the conduct of the then Minister of Public Works as set forth in a report made by Judge Landry ,and two others. My right hon. friend repeated here to-day what he said a few weeks ago, that that motion was founded entirely upon the report, and that there was no reference whatever to the evidence.


Wilfrid Laurier: Hear, hear.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: My right hon. friend is quite mistaken in that. Speaking on this subject a few weeks ago, he quoted some remarks I made at the time I had the honour, or otherwise of launching the motion. It is quite true as he quoted the remarks I made then, that I took the position that there was a report of this tribunal very solemnly constituted, as my right hon. friend will remember.


Wilfrid Laurier: Very solemnly constituted.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Very solemnly constituted, by a special Act of the legislature, i took the position that so long as that report stood we were warranted in concluding it was right, and that if there was any objection to it it was the duty of the person chiefly involved .to take steps to have it set aside.


William Pugsley: How could that be done?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I was just going to refer to that. My hon. friend from St. John (Mr. Pugsley) took the position then that he knew how it could be done, and he told us he had already taken steps before the courts to have it done. He told us that he had already issued a writ in the courts of New Brunswick asking for certain accounting which would bring before the courts the whole matter that was investigated by that commission. I am advised, however, that he never went any further than issuing the writ. My right hon. friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) was quite right in citing some remarks I made on that occasion, but he is quite wrong when he says the

whole motion rested on the report and not on the evidence. He will remember very-well that we had all the evidence before Parliament at that time and that the hon. member for St. John had it in his possession, hut refused to refer to it.
Mr. PUGSLEY Who had the evidence?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: My hon. friend from St. John (Mr. Pugsley).


William Pugsley: I refused to refer to the evidence?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Yes.


William Pugsley: My hon. friend's memory is entirely wrong. I demanded that the evidence should be quoted.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I have my hon. friend's speech under my hand. If he will refer to page- 5710 of Hansard for 1909 he will find:
Mr. Pugsley:	Mr. Speaker, before recess I
was pointing out some statements contained in the report, which statements show how little reliance is to be placed upon this report. I am doing this without troubling the House by referring to the evidence. I may say I could not refer to the evidence even if I desired to do so because I have not been able to obtain a full copy. X have copies of, I think, two volumes, but have not been able to obtain the rest.
There were only two volumes, and the hon. gentleman admitted he had two volumes, so he had the whole of the evidence; therefore he said, in so many words "I will not refer to the evidence at all."


William Pugsley: Will my hon. friend pardon me a moment?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Not unless you ask
me a question. I do not want you to make a speech. You will have an opportunity when I sit down.


William Pugsley: I simply want to correct my hon. friend.


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Order.


William Pugsley: I rise to a point of order.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: What is your point of order?


William Pugsley: My point of order is that my hon. friend is making a statement which is not in accordance with the facts.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: That is not a point of order.


William Pugsley: As a matter of fact I had certain of the evidence. I also stated that the provincial government had been requested to lay the entire evidence upon
the table of the provincial legislature, which they had refused to do


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Order.
Mr. PUGSLEY-and I quoted from all the evidence I had available.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I have my hon. friend's speech before me, and there is no quotation whatever from the evidence throughout the whole of it. I remember very well that the present Mr. Justice Crocket, then a member of this House, followed my hon. friend. Reference to his speech will corroborate what I am saying. He said that the ihon. member for St. John admitted having two volumes of the evidence, and that there were only two volumes, and that the hon. member did not refer to any portion of ^he evidence in ihis speech. I have read the speech very carefully and if any hon. gentleman in this House is sufficiently interested in this matter to look it up in Hansard he will find that my hon. friend did not refer to the evidence at all, although he had the whole of it in his possession. The present Judge Crocket also had the evidence. My hon. friend from St. John spoke for four hours and a half on the subject, without referring to the evidence once. Mr. Crocket spoke for five ihours and a half and is reported in 69 columns of Hansard, a large portion of which is taken up with extracts from the evidence. Yet, notwithstanding these facts, my right hon. friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier), either through inadvertence or lack of memory states that this motion went forward in the House in 1909 without any reference to the evidence.


Wilfrid Laurier: That is what I said.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: But, that is not the fact. The fact is, as appears by Hansard, that the present Judge Crocket cited column after column .from the evidence.


William Pugsley: He referred to the evidence after I had done so. His reference was in answer to mine.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: My hon. friend from St. John never referred to the evidence at all. 1 would like to say a word in reply to what my hon. friend from Carleton (Mr. Carvell) said in regard to the evidence. I admit he is a good lawyer, and has enjoyed a large practice for many years. He will agree with me, I think, that on a question of evidence a court of appeal will not consider a matter -Where there is a conflict of evidence, or where it is a question of the

weight of evidence. This is especially so in regard to the finding of a jury, which has the advantage of seeing the witnesses, of observing their manner in the box/and so on. So far as my memory goes, however, it is not the practice in a case where there is absolutely no evidence.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I hope my hon. friend does not contend that is the case in the Galt report?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Yes, I do. If my hon. friend has read the evidence at all-


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I have


Thomas Wilson Crothers: -and the findings of the two judges who considered the matter in Montreal. They did not discuss it as a conflict of evidence; they said that there was absolutely no evidence to warrant the inference drawn; that there was no direct evidence at all, and no evidence warranting the inference. They did not rule on a question of weight of evidence, but they ruled that there was no evidence warranting any such inference.


Wilfrid Laurier: My hon.
friend remembers and admits that he introduced the resolution of censure against the hon. member for St. John (Mr. Pugsley) in 1909. He spoke of everybody's speech except his own.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: No, I spoke of mine.


Wilfrid Laurier: You spoke oi the speeches of the hon. member for St. John, -and of Mr. *Crocket, now Judge Crocket.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I admitted that you correctly quoted what I said on that occasion.


Wilfrid Laurier: My hon. friend took a position exactly the reverse of his position to-day. In presenting his motion he took this position: I refuse to look at the evidence; here is the judgment of a court of law, I shall not go beyond the judgment; upon that judgment I ask a vote of censure upon the hon. member for St. John. My hon. friend (Mr. Pugsley) very properly said: This is not the judgment of a court but only the opinion of Mr. Justice ' So-and-So, and I am prepared to say that in many respects the opinion of the commission is in error. Then there was a discussion between the hon. member for St. John and Mr. Crocket revising the evidence adduced before the commission. If I drew attention to that it was simply to say
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that the opinion held at that time by the gentlemen now -sitting on the Treasury benches was that a commission of that kind was a court of law, that its finding was the judgment of a court of law, and that if it was such a judgnient, it could not be revised by this Parliament. But all of this is now discarded; it is -sophistry; the commission of Mr. Justice Landry was not a court of law, the -commission of Mr. Justice Galt was not a court of law. The commission of Mr. Justice Tellier and Mr. Justice McLeod was not a court of law, but simply a commission of gentlemen entrusted to do what Mr. Justice Galt was entrusted to do, to investigate certain facts. He made the investigation; he had witnesses brought before him; he could have reported to the Government without an expression of opinion, but he expressed an opinion.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: The question between my right hon. friend and me is not any thing about Judge Galt. The quest'on is whether he s-tated that we did not use the evidence at all on the motion made in this House in 1909, and if 'he d-id make that statement, was it correct?


Wilfrid Laurier: I say that my friend who made the motion- never used the evidence.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: That is not the question. You said the evidenoe was not used.


Wilfrid Laurier: That was the question as presented to the House, but my hon. friend from St. John riddled the speech of the Minister of Labour; he showed that the commission was not a court of law or its findings -a judgment, but that its finding was only -the opinion of Mr. Justice Landry and of gentlemen associated with him; and he proceeded to Tiddle the report made, and there was a controversy between him and Mr. Crocket. No one pretended-I never pretended-that the opinion of Mr. Justice Galt was final. It was simply the opinion- of Mr. Justice Galt, a man of high character, at one time an eminent member of the bar, a man selected by the Government to be a justice , of the court of Manitoba-and I think it was a good appointment according to everybody. He gave his opinion. But I never contended that the opinion of Mr. Justice Galt was final; it could be discussed and it will be for Parliament, or fo-r the Legislature of Manitoba primarily, to determine whether or not the report is well founded. The Government have taken the position that the opinion of Mr. Justice Tellier and Mr. SEPTEMBER 1, 1917
Justice McLeod is final; 'but their opinion has no more weight than the opinion of Mr. Justice Galt. It has to be laid; upon the table of the House, it has to be discussed by the House, because it is the result of action taken by the Government, and the Government having taken that action, rightly or wrongly, the result is subject to be revised by this Parliament. But between the report of one judge and the report of two judges, there is no difference whatever. When my friends say that the judgment of Mr. Justice Galt has been revised by a court of higher jurisdiction, that is all sophistry and fallacy. Mr. Justice Tellier and Mr. Justice McLeod occupy no higher standing than Mr. Justice Galt. What is the chief justice of any court? He has no more power than any other judge; he has the same rank and standing. The only difference between one report and the other is that, in the case of the latter commission, the late Minister of Public Works was a party to choosing the two men who sat upon the report of Mr. Justice Galt.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: My right hon. friend, by making a long speech concerning Mr. Justice Galt, cannot get away from the statement made the other day and repeated to-day.


Wilfrid Laurier: Which?


Thomas Wilson Crothers: That there was no reference to the evidence on the motion made in this House in 1909-that we did not rely upon the evidence. That is not according to facts, although the right hon. gentleman has repeated it to-day.


Wilfrid Laurier: We may discuss that.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: You find in Judge Crocket's speech column after column of references to the evidence. My right hon. friend knows that, and yet he said in the House a month ago, and repeated to-day, that our motion was not founded on evidence, and that there was no reference to the evidence.


Wilfrid Laurier: If you pass me the volume I shall quote your own words.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I admit that I launched the motion, and that I had not the evidence before me; I made my speech on the report.


Wilfrid Laurier: That is what I said the other day.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: But it does not follow from that that the motion was not supported" by evidence. It was supported by evidence quoted by Mr. Crocket during four and one-half hours. When the statement is made that it was not. referred to by Mr. Crocket, although !he had it in his possession, the inference is that he knew his statements would not be corroborated by the evidence.


Wilfrid Laurier: The inference is that my hon. friend had the evidence and would not use it because it was against his own motion.


Charles Murphy: What was said or was
not said, what was done or not done, in 1909 will not answer the question asked by the hon. member for Halifax (Mr. A. K. Maclean). This discussion arose out of that hon. gentleman's question. He asked what authority the Government had for asking this House to pay the $5,500 set out in this item. The Secretary of State (Mr. Meighen) replied that the Government had the authority of Parliament. When pressed he ex-piained that by that reply he meant that Parliament had passed the Inquiries Act and that, as the Commission which whitewashed the late Minister of Public Works was appointed under the Inquiries Act, therefore the Government had the authority of Parliament for doing what it did. My hon. friend the member for St. John joined issue with the Secretary of State upon that reply, and I submit that the position taken by the hon. member for St. John is entirely correct, and that it is borne out by the terms of the submission or reference to the McLeod-Tellier Commission. I have not the terms of the Order in Council here-the Secretary of State referred to them- but I have under my hand the report of the judges Tellier and McLeod. The first paragraph of that report recites the facts and circumstances relating to their appointment, and referring to the Order in Council appointing them, which was based upon the Inquiries Act, they state that by that Order they were empowered and directed to conduct an inquiry and investigation for the purpose of reviewing and considering the evidence taken by Mr. Justice Galt, and to review and consider his report and findings on such evidence, and to report whether such evidence sustains or supports the findings of the said Commissioner as set forth in suGh report in so far as they reflect upon or prejudicially affect the honour or integrity of the Honourable Robert Rogers, or the honesty of his dealings or transactions.



The very terms of the Order in Council appointing the Commission, I submit, bear out the contention of the hon. gentleman from St. John that, in this case, the Government is straining the Inquiries Act beyond its uttermost limits when it seeks to justify itself in asking this House to vote a sum of money to pay these gentlemen for the services they rendered in connection with this Commission. Obviously, as the hon. gentleman from St. John pointed out, the Inquiries Act relates only to matters over which this Parliament has jurisdiction. This Commission was not appointed to consider anything of that kind. It was appointed to consider matters arising out of Mr. Rogers' connection with other things, when he was a member of another Government, before he came to Ottawa at all. I submit, the very terms of the Order in Council itself, which are referred to, and briefly extracted in the first paragraph of the Tellier-McLeod report, establish the soundness of the position taken by the hon. gentleman from St. John, and justify the question asked by the hon. gentleman from Halifax.


Alexander Kenneth Maclean: I cannot understand why the matter of the report of Mr. Justice Landry, of the Supreme Court in New Brunswick, should be referred to in connection with this vote. Neither do I understand why the matters which were the subject of a debate in connection with that report should be dragged into this discussion.
There is obviously a great distinction between the two matters. In the discussion upon the New Brunswick report, the conduct of the present member for St. John- formerly a minister of the Crown-was in question. It is true it had relation to matters which occurred in the administration of provincial affairs. This Parliament is supreme in anything in reference to the conduct of a member of Parliament. It might be quite competent for this House to declare that the conduct of a sitting member at any time in his career was of such a nature as to debar him from sitting in the House, and in that respect and for that Teason, it might be contended at least that this Parliament bad absolute jurisdiction to discuss such matters, and that they might do so with propriety. But this case is altogether different. The judgment of Mr. Justice Galt was not questioned in this Parliament. It was not a subject of discussion here. No charges were preferred against the late Minister of Public Works, Hon. iMr. Rogers, in connection with his 
administration of public affairs in the province of Manitoba. Nobody here in Parliament asked for the appointment of a parliamentary committee, or moved that it be referred to a commission of judges. He was not asked to defend himself in this House. Parliament never asked for the appointment of a commission. The Government appointed the commission themselves, and I say they had no right or authority to do so and it was absolutely improper. Nothing has been gained by the appointment of the commission. The report does not illuminate the matters at issue in the province of Manitoba. The late Minister of Public Works was to blame a great deal in not being represented at the inquiry in Manitoba. He should have been represented by counsel. The inquiry at Montreal the other day was an ex parte affair. The Government of Manitoba denied the jurisdiction of the commission to make the inquiry- at least they denied the propriety of the inquiry. I say that, on no ground whatever should we be asked to vote this money. If Parliament had asked for an inquiry, all very well and good, we probably should pay the expenses of the commissioner. Parliament never asked for the appointment of a commission; it was the former Minister of Public Works himself who asked the 'Government to appoint such a commission. I submit that it is an unjustifiable thing for Parliament to vote this $5,000. I say, further, the committee should not be asked to vote it, and I move that this amount be struck from the resolution.


Mr. R. B. BENNETT:: Parliament is the custodian of the honour of its members, and the Government to that extent represents Parliament. A minister of the Crown, and a member of this House, had been found, by a tribunal appointed by the province of Manitoba, to be guilty of certain grave offences, which, if true, would disentitle him, in my judgment, to occupy an office under the Crown, or possibly a seat in this chamber. This Parliament, through its Government, appointed this commission. Every member of this House acceded to the request of the hon. member for an enquiry when he pointed out that these charges had been made, and that these unfounded conclusions had been arrived at by the tribunal who considered them. He askeid, not so imuch that the evidence be reviewed, as that two men of eminence should determine whether or not there was any evidence upon which he could be found guilty of the charges made. It is common

ground, it seems to me, to every lawyer in this House, that when a verdict is reached by a jury against evidence you may go to the Court of Appeal, and when the verdict is against the weight of evidence you may go to the 'Court of Appeal, and in either of these two cases you must consider the ques-ion of the sufficiency, so to speak, of the evidence to establish the charges. But there is another ground common to all members of this House engaged in the practice of the legal profession, and that is whether or not there is any evidence at all to submit to the jury, and if there be no evidence to submit to the jury any judgment founded upon that state of facts must inevitably be set aside. Within he last two years I presented unsuccessfully to the Supreme Court here, on behalf of the appellant a case in which the Grand Trunk Pacific was the respondent and in that case the learned judge had left to the jury the question of negligence. The issue in the Supreme Court was whether or not there was any evidence at all to go to the jury upon that issue, and the court here held that the mere fact that the ladder had slipped, was not in itself evidence of negligence, and therefore the verdict of the jury, and the judgment of the court based upon such verdict, must be set aside, because there was no evidence to go to the jury.
They did not enter into any discussion with respect to the credibility of the witnesses; they did not enter into any discussion of the character of the evidence; they merely determined, on a perusal of the record, that there was no evidence whatever to leave to the jury. In this case the Government of this country, speaking for every member of Parliament, determined that the accused minister, in view of the statements made by him, was entitled to have a court of appeal determine whether or not there was any evidence to be left to the jury. Two gentlemen of eminence, one the Chief Justice of New Brunswick and the other an ex-Justice of Quebec, reviewed the evidence, went over the findings, considered the conclusions. Any lawyer in this House, however biased his opinion, or however prejudiced his views may he, will agree that in the testimony referred to in the report of Mr. Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier there is not a single scintilla of evidence upon which an appellate tribunal would determine that there was any evidence to go to the jury. Of course, as the member for Halifax (Mr. A. K. Maclean) has said, the ex-Minister of Public Works should have been represented, 332*
but he was not. Serene in the consciousness of his own innocence with respect to the charges preferred against him, he was willing that the matter should be heard without his being represented by counsel. Having regard to the circumstanoes, and to the high state of party feeling which prevailed at the time of the hearing before Commissioner Galt, the judges who sat as the appelate court properly concluded that the views of counsel had obtained over the evidence. The counsel who presented the case on behalf of the province did it so powerfully and so strongly that they were able to convince the learned Commissioner Galt that certain charges had been well preferred; that they had been established to his satisfaction.
Hon. gentlemen in this House must put themselves in exactly the same position as that in which the ex-minister found himself. Unfounded in fact, without a scintilla of evidence, without there being a line of testimony to support it, the conclusion arrived at by a tribunal properly constituted by the province of Manitoba was that there was evidence of guilt, when in fact there was none. Would hon. gentlemen not expect the Government of the day, under these circumstances, to ask that a commission be appointed for the purpose of reviewing that testimony-not of reviewing it in the broad sense' of the term, but to determine really whether or not there was any evidence that might be left to any jury to which a man might with safety and confidence appeal in respect of the charges preferred against him? I do submit that this item should be carried. This expenditure was properly incurred. The case of one ex-Minister of Public Works may be the case of some other gentleman to-morrow; it might well Ibe the case of some other gentleman now. This Parliament, under all constitutional usages and precedents, being the custodian of its own honour-the Government being the mouthpiece of this Parliament-must ever be on the alert to protect the reputation of its members from assaults that may be made against them under the stress and strain of bitter partisanship. Is it reasonable, at a time when the prejudices of men's minds were excited by certain revelations in Manitoba, that, Mr. Rogers, simply because he had taken a very active part in the elections and had been a member of the Pro-' vincial Government, should be charged with malfeasance and maladministration, and stripped of his reputation? Is it rea-

sonable that this conclusion should be arrived at upon an accumulation of a vast quantity of evidence that directed itself to no particular point or against no particular facts?
But it is not the late Minister of Public Works that we speak of; it is the man who occupies a position of trust and authority under the Grown. Hon. gentleman opposite themselves would like to-and may- occupy similar positions. They must put themselves in the position in which Mr. Rogers was placed; they must put themselves in the position of hon. gentlemen who are anxious to maintain the dignity and honour of this Parliament. Undoubtedly, had the conclusions of Mr. Justice Galt stood, Mr. Rogers would not have been considered a fit person to occupy office under the Crown and to sit in this House. The same considerations should obtain to-day as those which induced the House of Commons in days gone by, both in Great Britain and in Canada, to expel from its membership men who should not sit in it because they were not fit to do so. The considerations that sent Lynch from the Imperial Parliament and Riel from this Parliament on the motion of 'Sir Mackenzie Bowell, still prevail. It is still within the constitutional right of a membeT of this House to stand in his place and move the expulsion of a fellow member on the ground that he is unfit to sit in the House or to hold office under the Crown. The ex-Minister of Public Works was improperly and unfairly charged with offences which were not proven. I can readily understand, however, that the then commissioner might conclude that these charges were established, having regard to the criminal proceedings that were then being had against exministers of the Crown and to the state of excited public opinion that had arisen because of wrong-doing in Manitoba. Mr. Justice Galt arrived, then, at conclusions with respect to Mr. Rogers and those conclusions have been determined to be w-thout the support of a single scintilla of evidence or vestige of testimony. It seems to me that with a larger aspect and a wider view, hon. gentlemen opposite should look on this case not as the case of Mr. Rogers, not as the case of an individual, but as the case of a member of this House, a minister of the Crown, who is charged with offences which were not proven, with wrong-doing which w-as not established, with malfeasance and maladministration of \ hich there was no evidence.

No man in this House, no speaker on a public platform, no newspaper has been so bold as to say that in the whole of the record of the proceedings before Mr. Justice Galt, there was a single line that pointed to the conclusions at which the commissioner arrived. That is a fact that should be kept in mind. Eminent lawyers, not associated with the party with which I have been associated, read the testimony with care, and not one of them has said that a single line of the evdience established the conclusions against Mr. Rogers This House should be proud and glad that we have in power a Government willing to spend a few thousand dollars in order that one of our fellow members, one of the ministers of the Crown, holding a high office and enjoying a position in which he has the confidence of his Sovereign, should be given an opportunity before an unbiased tribunal, not to present new testimony, but to have the former testimony reconsidered. The commission appointed to review the findings of Mr. Justice Galt made it clear that upon the closest scrutiny and the most careful examination of the record, there was not a single word, a scintilla of testimony, upon which to base conclusions that were arrived at.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: In view of the most
remarkable statements made by the Minister of Labour (Mr. Crothers) and by the member for Calgary (Mr. R. B. Bennett) who is half in and half out with the Government-


Richard Bedford Bennett: No, he is all out.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I want to second the proposal made by the member for Halifax (Mr. A. K. Maclean), and I do so with the very greatest sincerity. When the Government ask the people to pay $5,500 to meet the expenses of reviewing the findings of Mr. Justice Galt on the ground that there was not a scintilla of evidence-to quote the expression used by the member for Calgary at least three or four times-to justify that finding, before I vote for the payment of this money I am going to demand a chance to investigate that matter and to discuss it in this House. I have persistently opposed the public investigation in the House of Commons, of the Hon. Mr. Rogers' affairs in Manitoba. We have passed through a session of six or seven months since these reports became public and from this side of the 'House not one woM has been stated in reference to it, and there has been no condemnation of Mr. Rogers.


Richard Bedford Bennett: There has been in the press.	.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: That is not our fault. We have refrained from discussing Mr. Rogers' position, and up to the present time we have decided to take that course. We believed, when Mr. Rogers resigned and quietly slipped out of the Government, that would probably be the end of the matter, and perhaps it was better to let him rest in peace. But if our friends want us to vote an amount of money-it is true it is not very large, but the principle is the same- to pay for a whitewashing report over Hon. Mr. Rogers on the ground that there was no evidence whatever to justify Mr. Commissioner Galt in making his findings, then I say that, before I vote for it, I am going to demand the right to discuss the evidence in the most public manner; and I think I can convince my hon. friend from Calgary that there is more than a scintilla of evidence, indeed, that there is a mountain of evidence, to justify Mr. Justice Galt in the report he made. In that case, this item should stand until we have an opportunity to discuss the matter, and we will then try to convince hon. gentlemen opposite who clapped their hands at the statements of the hon. member-for Calgary, and some of whom have not read a line of the evidence, that there was ample evidence to justify Mr. Justice Galt in his findings. We will then discuss the matter and give the whole story, and show those hon. members and the people of Canada that there was no justification for reviewing that evidence. There was ample evidence on which to make a finding-so much evidence that no other finding could have been made than that made by Mr. Justice Galt. We, therefore, demand that this item stand until we have an opportunity to discuss the matter.


Arthur Meighen: Personally, I accept the findings of the last and highest tribunal on the subject, but it is not because that tribunal has found that there is no evidence to support the findings of the lower tribunal that we asked that this vote be passed.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: That is what we are told by the Minister of Labour and the hon. member for Calgary.


Arthur Meighen: The hon. member for Calgary said that there was no evidence, but he did not say that was why we asked that this vote be passed. We would have asked that this vote be passed if the findings of Mr. Justice Galt was justified, just the
same as if it was not. The position here is one of the outgrowths of the constitution of this country. We are not constituted, as Great Britain is, with a single Parliament; we are a federal Parliament, and we have nine provincial parliaments, all of which have plenary jurisdiction within theiT spheres. The consequence is that 'any provincial parliament may appoint a commission of inquiry, a semi-judicial commission, and that commission may investigate the conduct of a minister of the Crown of Canada, either wthile ' he is minister or before he became minister. They have power either way. That commission of inquiry may come out with a report which may reflect in the most grave and serious manner on the common honesty and honour of a minister of the- Crown of this Dominion. That has been the case already in more instances than one in Canada. That being the case, and such a report coming out and being made a publio report of a eemi-judicial character, what i6 to be done by the Government of Canada and by the Parliament of Canada? Only two courses are open. The one course is to ignore it; to blind our eyes to it; to say that we have nothing to do with that report whatever; that we do not care what that semi-judicial judgment says; that it may declare that this man is a thief or a murderer, but that we have nothing to do with that report; that we pay no attention to it; that we do not care whether it blasts the reputation of this man throughout Canada or not; that we do not care whether it undermines his consequence or his influence as a minister of the Crown or not; that we turn our backs to it and shut our eyes to it, and let it go. We have another course. We may have an investigation; we may have a review, and if we have a review at all, we should have it before such a tribunal as would be looked upon by the country generally as being higher in status, more disinterested and more entitled to public confidence than the first. Unless we do that, we might ae well not have a tribunal at all. That is the second and only other course, for the reason that there is no way of submitting the judgment of the first commission of inquiry to any court of the land. If we tried to bring it before a court of the land, we should immediately be told: This court of appeal has no jurisdiction; we can do nothing with the judgment of Mr. Justice Landry in New Brunswick; we can do nothing with the judgment of Mr. Justice Galt in Manitoba. There is no

judicial tribunal competent to review the findings of that court of inquiry appointed -by a provincial legislature. Therefore, if there is to be a tribunal, it would have to be established by this House. There are only those two courses. The one is to permit a minister of the Crown, if he be such, or a member of this House, if he be such, to lie under the shadow of that finding without any appeal at all; to place him in the position of a roan charged with theft or murder and to deny to him the right of the ordinary citizen of Canada. We could take that course, or we could take the only other course, namely, to establish a tribunal of the same nature as the one that found against him, but higher in status, and to submit to that tribunal for review and appeal what was submitted to the first.
I ask the members of this House to compare the wisdom of the two courses. Suppose we adopted the first course. Is it fair, honourable or just? Is it fundamentally right or sound? We are told that it does not concern this House; that it does not concern the public affairs of Canada. I say that it vitally and fatally concerns both.
I know nothing that comes so clearly within the purview of the Inquiries Act which says that we may make an investigation into any matter that affects the good government of Canada. Who would suggest that the impugned honour of a minister of the Crown of Canada does not affect the good government of Canada? It fundamentally and vitally affects it. No one in the world can compare the two courses. The one permits him to sit in this House of Commons as a minister of the Crown, while his honour is under the shadow of a finding of a tribunal appointed by a legislature or by a government of a province. Is that a right state of affairs? Is it just or fair? The other is the only course open-to seek to appoint a tribunal that will better command the confidence of the people than would the first tribunal, to submit the facts fairly to it and to ask it for a finding. It is suggested by the hon. member for Oarleton (Mr. Carvell) that this tribunal was appointed to whitewash and that, pursuant to its appointment, it whitewashed the former Minister of Public Works. I do not think my hon. friend should make that statement. I do not appeal against the statement acting particularly for the exMinister of Public Works, but I do appeal against the statement standing by the honour and reputation of the eminent justices who reviewed the findings. I do not 
think there has been anything in the public career, in the judicial reputation, of Sir Ezekiel McLeod or Mr. Justice Tellier, that would justify any citizen of Canada-not to say, any hon. member of the House of Commons-to attribute to them the character of being whitewashers of public men. I do not think the chief justice of his own province will thank the hon. member for Oarleton for describing him before the people of Canada as a tool of this or any other Government, or as a whitewasher of public men of any party, or as anything but an honourable and reputable judge.
It was stated, when this commission was appointed, that neither of the members of it was known to the hon. Mr. Rogers at all; that he had never so much as seen either of them. They were appointed solely because of their eminence on the Bench, and because upon inquiry they were found willing to undertake the work, and because of their disinterestedness in this particular matter, for they could not possibly be said to be swayed by any of the provincial partisan activities in the province of Manitoba.


Richard Bedford Bennett: They could not be influenced by what the judge called the "atmosphere".
.Mr. MEIGHEN: By what was described by the trial judge as the "atmosphere" of the case. That was why they were appointed.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: No.


Arthur Meighen: I never saw Chief Justice McLeod or Mr. Justice Tellier in my life. I had heard of them both, and believed they were honourable and able judges. That was all that concerned me, and I think that is all that concerned any member of the Government. I should like to know who could have been selected from the Bench of Canada who would be described as able judges fit to review the evidence, if not the men selected. Who would not be described as whitewashers, if these men are to be described as white-washers? The only alternative was to ignore the finding of Mr. Justice Galt altogether, and allow a minister of the Crown of Canada to rest in a position inferior in matter of right to that of the commonest thief or murderer in this country. Every man is entitled to an appeal. The humblest citizen of this country, of any class or race, if he contends that no evidence was submitted to substantiate the finding of the judge or jury, is entitled to an appeal from any court in the land. And upon what

principle could an appeal be denied to a minister of the Crown? He could not go before the courts, and the only way to grant him an appeal was to establish a tribunal to hear that appeal, and that is exactly the course that was taken. The tribunal was established under the Inquiries Act, which directly empowers us to take that action. And, having taken that action, no matter whether the tribunal's finding may be favourable or otherwise to the minister concerned, surely it is in the interest of this country that the appointment of that tribunal be ratified and its expenses paid.
It was argued further that what we have to debate now was wdiether there was a scintilla of evidence or not. I do not think wm have to debate that at all. I think that when a Provincial Commission impugns and maligns the character of a minister of the Crown, Parliament cannot shut its eyes to that fact, and pending investigation, if such is to be had, the minister should be relieved from the performance of the duties of his office. That is precisely 'the position we took in 1909, and that is the position we take to-day. Hon. gentlemen then contended that it should not be a judicial tribunal that should review the findings of the first tribunal, but it should be the two partisan sides of the House of Commons. Hon. gentlemen were then content to allow a minister of the Crown to rest for the meantime under the shadow of the finding of Mr. Justice Landry of the 'Court of New Brunswick, and the Minister of Public Works of that day remained a minister of the Crown simply because the partisan majority of this House decided that he was right and Mr. Justice Landry was wrong. Is that a better course than the course we pursued? We erected, on the contrary, a tribunal which is judicial, which is not swayed by partisanship from either side, which has been long divorced from the atmosphere of partisanship in Canada. We .appointed a judicial, and not a legislative or a partisan, tribunal. We submitted the case to them, and we asked them not to weigh the evidence of one man against the evidence of another-that is not the province, of an appeal tribunal at all- not to find whether Smith gave false evidence and Jones gave true, but to ascertain whether Smith or Jones gave evidence upon which that judgment could stand. That was the wording of the Order in Council; that was the intent of the Order in Council, and that and nothing else is what the Order in Council meant. The evidence was submitted. No new evidence was taken,
but a statement was made by the Minister of Public Works, at his request, I believe. If evidence had been given which in the judgment of the commissioners supported the finding of Mr. Justice Galt, they -would have so found. But they reviewed that evidence with the assistance of council; they went over it line by line, and then they came to the conclusion, no matter what conclusion any man in this House might come to, that there was no evidence that should have gone even to a jury in that ease-no evidence at all to support the finding.
Had they reported differently the item before this House would be just the same. The tribunal then would not be impugned by hon. gentlemen opposite; I have no doubt that in that case they would have lauded the tribunal. But this vote would have had to be taken just the same. It is not the finding that establishes the right to the vote, but the fact that the tribunal sat. That is why this vote is before the House.
Hon. gentlemen ask about counsel-why we should pay counsel to defend the exMinister of Public Works. We did not pay counsel who acted in any respect whatever for the exiMinister of Public Works in that case. The minister employed and paid for . his own counsel. He never submitted bills to this House or to the Government. This money is required to pay counsel appointed by the commission to assist them and to act in the interests of the people of Canada. We did not select counsel. They were selected by the commission. I do not know Mr. Teed, but my hon. friend from Carle-ton knows him, and he pretty generously gave him a certificate of ability in the House just now. A fair counsel was undoubtedly selected.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: There is no doubt of
that at all-good for the purpose for which he was selected.


Arthur Meighen: His duty was to go
through the evidence with the commissioners; to look up authorities, if necessary, with the commissioners; to go through exhibits with the commissioners; and to enable the commissioners, without unnecessary loss of time which to one of them at least was very valuable just then, to come to a conclusion whether the evidence was or was not there to sustain the judgment of Mr. Justice Galt.' That is the largest item in this vote. The Bill has been submitted to the Justice Department, and I understand that the deputy minister thinks that

it is not unreasonable considering the work done.
Let me repeat that this money is not for the purpose of paying the expenses of counsel for Mr. Rogers at all. This man was counsel for the commission, and counsel for the people of Canada. He alone is being paid. Whatever counsel (Mr. Rogers had, he paid for himself. I do not know that that course would be pursued by every other public man in this country. I do not know but that Mr. Rogers might have been justified, seeing that his honour was entirely vindicated by that tribunal, and seeing that the expenses he was put to were proven to be expenses to which he should not have been put, in submitting his bill of expenses to Parliament. But he has not done so; he has paid his bill himself.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I rather expected that my hon. friend would attempt to show that I was trying to vilify the Chief Justice of New Brunswick. As to that, I have nothing to say. The Chief Justice and I have known one another for a long time, and we get along all right, and therefore I do not propose to enter into any discussion of that branch of the case. But I want to say this:	That knowing the Chief Justice of
New Brunswick as well as I do, knowing his abilities, and knowing the abilities and relationship to him of the gentleman who was selected as his counsel, I have no hesitation in saying that if the people of this country had been represented, or if Mr. Justice Galt had been represented


Arthur Meighen: Mr. Justice Galt was
asked by the commission to appear or to be represented, but he refused, and so did the Government of Manitoba.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: And rightly so. I say that if any of them had been represented they would not have got the finding they did get from the Chief Justice of New Brunswick.


Richard Bedford Bennett: That is a prophecy, 1 suppose?


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: It is not a prophecy,
because we cannot go over the case again. I am only saying that it would not have happened. The trouble is that the intention from the beginning must have been to obtain the finding that was obtained, and every means was taken winch human ingenuity could suggest to obtain that finding, and every means was taken to prevent any other finding from being arrived at.


Arthur Meighen: Why did the province of Manitoba refuse to be represented?


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I do not know. I only ask why on earth did not this Government appoint somebody to represent the other side?


Arthur Meighen: We did.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: Who was it?


Arthur Meighen: Mt. Teed was appointed by the commissioners.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I happen to know better than that. Mr. Toed was appointed to assist Mr. Justice McLeod in making his findings. I know what I am talking about; as a -rule I do not make -statements in Parliament that I cannot back up. Mr. Teed was not appointed to bring out the facts of the case at all, he was -appointed to assist Mr. Justice McLeod. What I find fault with is that the Government did not appoint somebody to take the other side and to argue the matter. There was no -argument; there was nothing put before the Commissioners except one side of the case. Mr. Lacoste, a very prominent lawyer of Montreal, or Mr. Montgomery, another [DOT]prominent lawyer acted for Mr. Rogers. Mr. Teed wa-s there -assisting .the Chief Justice of New Brunswick. There was nobody to represent the other -sid-e of the -case. There was nothing said at all in the- w-ay of putting the case before the commissioners from the point of view of -the other -side.


Arthur Meighen: Does the hon. gentleman say we -should hav-e employed counsel to present the case from the point of view or Mr. Justice Galt? If that be so we should have also appointed counsel to represent Hon. Mr. Rogers.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: You should have appointed counsel to represent the public. What is the use of -trying to cover it with narrow technicalities. Hon. Mr. Rogers was charged before a tribunal of the province of Manitoba with wrongdoing, and it was as serious a charge as was ever preferred against any public man in Canada. I agree with the position taken by -the Solicitor General that, as long as that finding stood, Hon. Mr. Rogers was not properly a member of the Government, and I realize that something had to be done. At the -request of Mr. Rogers a commission was appointed, but, the Government took no steps whatever in regard to ascertaining whether Mr. Justice Galt was justified in coming to his conclusions, but they took every means that could possibly have been conceived in order to prove that he was not justified in his

conclusions. That is wihat I find fault with. If the other course had been taken, if those portions o,f the evidence which justified Mr. Justice Galt in his conclusions had 'been brought before the commission, if able couneel had been tihere to argue the matter, I know Mr. Justice McLeod well enough to know that he could not possibly have come to this conclusion. I have read the evidence, and I have some knowledge of what I am talking about. When I say T have read the evidence I do not mean tihat I have read the newspaper reports of it-I am speaking of the actual evidence. When a man says there is not a scintilla of evidence, I can only say he has not read the evidence. I say the hon. member for Calgary (Mr. Bennett) has not read the evidence.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The hon. member for Calgary read the evidence as it came out from time to time.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: The hon. member for
Calgary never read the evidence, and if he had read the evidence he would not have made the statement that tihere was no evidence.


Richard Bedford Bennett: I read the evidence from day to day as it came out.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: Newspaper reports of it.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The newspapers
published verbatim reports of it.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: But, I read the actual evidence, and I state again, if this matter had been properly argued and if the facts had been properly marshalled, not improperly marshalled, there would not be such a finding made by Mr. Justice McLeod. However this is getting away from the argument I was making a while ago. While the Solicitor General (Mr. Meighen) attempted to get away from the position in which he found himself by the statement or the Minister of Labour and the member for Calgary he stated they were creating this commission as a matter of principle, and therefore, no matter what the result was, we should pay the bills. But lie had to come back fi>
the fact that this commission found there was no evidence upon which Mr. Justice Galt could make these findings. After having read the evidence I am so opposed to that, and my whole sense of justice so revolts against it that I, for one, must demand that this vote be not passed until we have a chance to discuss the evidence in the House, and give the . people of the country an opportunity of
knowing whether they are justified in paying the bill.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Ever since a few misguided people concluded that the hon. member for Carleton had about him some semblance of statecraft, and might become an important individual in this country, he has arrogated to himself an importance he does not possess. He stands here this afternoon and coolly states to Parliament that he knows more than all the judges of Canada ever did know or ever will know. He tells us that when the court before which he has been accustomed to practise decides in his favour it is a good court, but when the conclusion it arrives at is not the one he would arrive at then the court is-no good. He expects the people of Canada to take him seriously. He has become minister of war, or would become so in the near future.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: That is more than the hon. member for Calgary could do, although he never tried anything so hard.


Richard Bedford Bennett: I desire to say to the hon. member for Carleton that that is not so. The hon. member for Calgary came into this House with a very distinct understanding as to what his position must be while he was here. Such a statement as that by my hon. friend cannot possibly be sustained. There is this to be said about my hon. friend, he has stood up in this House and told the people of Canada that he knows much more than the Chief Justice of the province of New Brunswick What a beautiful spectacle for a member of the bar; what a beautiful spectacle for a member of this House; what a beautiful spectacle for any public man who wishes to be taken seriously, to stand here in his place in Parliament, and for the sake of a little cheap political notoriety, for the purpose of endeavouring to make capital against a man who is not present, for the purpose of'Casting reflection upon a man who is no longer a member of the Administration, to tell us that no honest man could have concluded with Mr. Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier that there was no evidence to support the finding. According to his story. Chief Justice McLeod is dishonest. My hon. friend charged him here this afternoon with being dishonest. Will the hon. member for St. John (Mr. Pugsley) support that? Will he bear out the statement made by the hon. member for Carleton? My hon. friend (Mr. Carvell) says that no honest man could have arrived at the conclusion arrived at

by Chief Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier. Does my- hon. friend from Montreal, St. James (Mr. L. A. Lapointe), say that Mr Justice Tellier is a dishonest man? Will he say that no honest man could have arrived at the conclusion Mr. Justice Tellier arrived at? Will any lawyer who practices at the bar of 'the province of Quebec say that Mr. Tellier is a dishonest man? Yet it remains for the hon. member for Carleton to say that no honest man could have arrived at the conclusion those two gentlemen arrived at. My hon. friend from St. John has known Sir Ezekiel McLeod for years. I have known him since I was old enough to know public men. Will my hon. friend from 6t. John admit that Sir Ezekiel McLeod is a dishonest man?


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: Would the hon. member like to lead us in prayer?


Richard Bedford Bennett: That would be
something so entirely foreign to anything the hon. gentleman from Carleton knows anything about, that it would be useless to do it; however, I should say the words of the prayer he would use are so well known that it is unnecessary to repeat them. They would be those of the Pharisee: "I thank thee, Lord, that I am not as other men." I cannot possibly understand the hon. gentle-, man making the statement he has made with reference to the honesty of these gentlemen, One would think that he was counsel against Mr. Rogers and for the Hon. Mr. Justice Galt and in that capacity was saying " The conclusion the appeal court arrived at is Totten." When I was a young man and used to learn much from the hon. member from St. John (Mr. Pugsley)


William Pugsley: I am afraid you have gone astray.


Richard Bedford Bennett: No. I have never forgotten many of the lessons that I learned, but the lesson of urbanity I have never yet been able to learn. I have never been able to say "Thank you" with that eame kind consideration that he does. I should like to, but I fear I never shall.


Mr. McKENZIE:: You have not practised enough. .


Richard Bedford Bennett: I have not, to the same extent. But this was a fundamental lesson, that courts of appeal sometimes decide against us. I can remember cases in which, as counsel, the hon. member for St. John sometimes buoyed me up with

high hope that possibly we might succeed. I have known cases in which the hon. member for Carleton (Mr. Carvell) was interested in which we were buoyed up with high hope. When we succeeded before the trial judge, we went on, with hope still springing eternal in the human breast, to the court of appeal, and that court decided against us-and we were wrong, the trial judge was wrong. But it is not usual for counsel, in cases like that, to stand up and charge the tribunal with arriving at a conclusion which no honest man would arrive at.


William Pugsley: Has the hon. gentleman not had experience that would induce him to believe that sometimes, after all, the judgment of the lowest court was the best judgment?


Richard Bedford Bennett: There have been cases in which we still thought so.


William Pugsley: Yes.


Richard Bedford Bennett: But we were bound by the decision of the Appellate Court.


William Pugsley: This is not a court of appeal.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: And has not the hon. gentleman known of cases where a third or final Appellate Court has reversed the findings of the first Appellate Court? Therefore, would it not be well to appoint another tribunal to try the findings of the first appeal court?


Richard Bedford Bennett: Unfortunately, as the law stands, there is no provision for a higher tribunal.


William Pugsley: Nor was there for this.


William F. Carroll: Does the hon. member agree with the Secretary of State that this Government had power, without a reference to Parliament, to appoint a second tribunal under the Inquiries Act?


Richard Bedford Bennett: I tried to make clear in my few remarks a moment ago why any tribunal was appointed. The Inquiries Act enables us to create machinery and, to issue, under the Great Seal, a commission to inquire into a question. The Inquiries Act is a part of the statute law of this country. It- is there for that very purpose. Being there, we took advantage of the machinery of that statute for the purpose indicated by the Secretary of State (Mr. Meighen) and by myself, namely to determine whether or not the honour of this Parliament would in any sense be offended

through, these charges against one of its members being supported by any evidence. That is all.


William F. Carroll: Does the hon. member not think that the Inquiries Act makes provision for the initiation of investigations of this kind, and not for courts of review?


Richard Bedford Bennett: What my hon. friend has said would certainly be entirely in order were it not for one fact, and that is that this, was a provincial matter and the inquiry was with respect to wrong-doing alleged during the term of office of a provincial minister.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: It is the same King in Manitoba that we have here.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The only King my friend knows sits directly to his right, and I do not think he sits for Manitoba.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: There are greater things than these.


Richard Bedford Bennett: But the same King unquestionably, as my friend the judge (Mr. McKenzie) has said, but there is no appeal from the findings with respect to a provincial matter to another tribunal in that sense, so we had to create some tribunal to make the inquiry for this Parliament, and the inquiry it made was an inquiry de novo as to the extent to which, if any, there was any evidence upon which to predicate those findings.


William F. Carroll: Would it not have been better for the Government to have instituted an inquiry de novo to take the evidence either in Manitoba or here, probably by sending the judges to Manitoba, and then have counsel on both sides, and have the judges see the witnesses? Would'that not have been the better course to pursue?


Richard Bedford Bennett: I am sorry to say that that course would have been entirely unconstitutional. It would not have been within the ambit of our powers to intrude ourselves upon matters which were purely provincial in their character. We have no right to make that inquiry.


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Hear, hear.


Richard Bedford Bennett: That is exactly what I was desirous my hon. friends would say. They are angry and balked because a public man has not been permitted to lie under an unfounded and unwarranted aspersion upon his character.


Mr. SCHAFFNER:: That is what is the
matter with them.


Richard Bedford Bennett: That is the whole story, and I feel quite sure that, with the great wealth of experience that their right hon. leader (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) enjoys, he will be the first man to say that if any machinery can be created and put in motion that will make it clear, not to some other tribunal but to this Parliament, whether or not there is any foundation for the conclusion arrived at with respect to one of its members, that machinery should be used, and used promptly. To that extent it seems to me we are on common ground. Now they complain because the tribunal has found in favour of the hon. ex-Minister of Public Works. That is the whole complaint.


Mr PUGSLEY:: There is no complaint of that.


Richard Bedford Bennett: I quite understand that the hon. member for St. John (Mr. Pugsley) has no complaint as to that, but I am talking now about the hon. member for Carleton and those who take that view.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I made no complaint
whatever. I care nothing whatever. I complain because we are called upon to pay 85,500 for something that was none of our business, but a purely personal matter between Mr. Rogers and his friends in Manitoba.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Let me give an
analogy. I am a member of a club. The question of the expulsion of members of clubs engages the attention of the courts in England more than it does here, but it occasionally does so here, as for instance in connection with the Garrison Club of Quebec. This House of Commons is a club. The people have elected us here. The analogy is complete, and this club of members has the right to expel from its membership any member against whom charges are preferred or findings made that would indicate that he was unfit to be a member of this Parliament, or this club.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: In dealing with members of clubs, is it not a judgment of the members of the club itself that is passed upon the erring member, if he does err?


Richard Bedford Bennett: Precisely, except that the committee of the club is usually charged with the duty of making investigation.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: Messrs Justice McLeod and Justice Tellier are not members of this club.


Richard Bedford Bennett: But Parliament
constituted them a committee to act and to determine that matter because they aTe judicial in their character, and this club, unlike the ordinary social club, is torn into two or more factions by political differences.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: But from that you
must not presume that this Parliament would not fairly try one of its members. That is a wild presumption.


Richard Bedford Bennett: I am not making presumptions of that character, but I am sure any judicial inquiry is 'to be preferred to one by members torn by distracting questions and partisans in their character admittedly, as we are-and no man has made a stronger statement in respect to that than the hon. member for North Cape Breton (Mr. McKenzie).
This House, under the authority of the Inquiries Act, has seen fit to create a small committee, consisting of two eminent judges, and charged them with the responsibility-not as my hon. friend suggests, of going down to Manitoba and inquiring into a provincial matter-but of determining whether or not, on the evidence given before that tribunal, there was any evidence to go to the jury of the guilt of the person charged.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: If there is any objection to the commission composed of Chief Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier going into the province of Manitoba, there is ample provision, under the Inquiries Act, to bring the evidence here. Let them sit here.


Richard Bedford Bennett: My dear, learned and honourable friend, the ex-judge, is too astute a man, too subtle-minded for a single moment to think it was a question of geography I was dealing with. I was dealing with jurisdiction, and he knew it as well as I knew it. He knew that this Parliament should not be intruding itself into provincial matters that affected provincial administration only.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: My hon. friend, who is a big lawyer-


Richard Bedford Bennett: No,-not now.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: -says they would have no jurisdiction if they heard the evidence de novo, but they have jurisdiction if they read the evidence and report. Is that the logic of my hon. friend?


Richard Bedford Bennett: No, no. My hon. friend knows what I mean. I can see by

the colour of his face that he appreciates the position.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: It is past me, I cannot understand it.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The hon. gentleman knows it is purely a question of jurisdiction. The Legislature of Manitoba has plenary powers, and this Parliament, under its constitution, also has plenary powers. The Legislature of Manitoba create a commission to inquire into the administration of its own affairs.
This Parliament has nothing to do with the administration of the Public Works Department of Manitoba, but has to do with the honour of one of its members, and, based upon the assumption that a member of this House had been found guilty of malfeasance in his administration in the provincial government-that having been certified to as a fact-this Parliament created the tribunal to consider whether or not any evidence had been adduced which would justify such finding, the accused having said that there was no evidence to justify if. This Parliament has no right to go down to the province of New Brunswick, and to inquire into the Public Works Department there. If it did, it would have a lively time, but it would have no power to do so.


William Pugsley: During the last five years there would be considerable to investigate.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The administration of the last five years would not compare with the administration of the days long past.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: They are not doing badly as it is.


Richard Bedford Bennett: And as long as it continues my hon. friend from Carleton will find some scope for his activities, and will be able to earn a good fee. But I want to emphasize the fact that we, as a Parliament, could not inquire into the Public Works Department of Manitoba, and that one of our members having been assailed, and found guilty of an offence in Manitoba, it became our duty to determine whether we should let it go, or have a decent and proper tribunal review the finding and determine whether there was any evidence to sustain it. That tribunal has declared there was no evidence, and now against that finding, the hon, gentleman from Carleton says no honest man should have so found it. Is that a proper way in which to approach this matter? I am sure the hon. member for St.

John would have been better pleased, his reputation as a public man would have stood much higher in years to come, and the perspective would have been better when the history of our country is written, when we are long gone, if a proper tribunal had reviewed the Landry report, rather than that a partisan majority should vote that these charges against him were wholly unwarranted. The Landry report found the member for St. John guilty-he says falsely. The report to-day stands uncontroverted.


William Pugsley: And the Government
counsel said it was false.


Richard Bedford Bennett: But it stands
to-day. The hon. gentleman sits in this House with that finding against him. Whenever he rises im his place to speak in this House, he speaks ias one against whom a finding has been made, and why? Because the Government of the day never appointed a tribunal to inquire whether or not there was any evidence to warrant that finding, and the reason is because they dare not do so. That is the whole story. Everybody knows that. The partisan majority stood up, 'and said: "We shall have no investigation, let the false charge stand against him forever," and he stands in the eyes of public men of this country for all time, in successive generations, as one who is guilty.


William Pugsley: And never whitewashed.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Never whitewashed, because whitewashing would be absolutely useless. No process of whitewashing would accomplish any result. There it istands forever. That is not the course that was pursued by the ex-Minister of Public Works (Mr. Rogers), a member of this House. He wrote a letter to the country and said "I abandon my portfolio, I resign my position and I want to go out."


William Pugsley: He just stood aside for the time being, and was still minister. He kept his portfolio?


Richard Bedford Bennett: My hon. friend (Mr. Pugsley) did not do that. Mr. Rogers stood aside and said: I am not guilty of the charges Judge Galt made against me, I demand an inquiry by some tribunal.


William F. Carroll: It was not an inquiry.


Richard Bedford Bennett: It was an inquiry, because it had to determine whether or not there was any evidence upon which the Galt findings might be predicated, and anything that determines that is :an inquiry.


William F. Carroll: Not under the Act.


Richard Bedford Bennett: The question was, was there any evidence on which the Galt findings could be predicated so far as Mr. Rogers was concerned. The hon. member from Carleton said I had not read the evidence. I read the evidence as it came out from day to day, and followed that evidence. I may not be as well able to arrive at conclusions as the hon. gentleman from Carleton, but when the conclusions of Mr. Justice Galt were arrived at I failed-and I have failed ever since-to put my finger on the evidence upon which those conclusions could have been predicated. That illustrates the difference in view between my hon. friend and myself, and shows the soundness of appointing men absolutely removed from the scene and away from political influence. That is the reason Chief Justice McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier were appointed. What a lovely mess it would have been if we had appointed members of this House to investigate.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: You had a majority in this House and could put good men upon that committee.


Richard Bedford Bennett: We do not find
our ministers innocent by majority.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: Perhaps you could not get a majority.


Richard Bedford Bennett: There was no
trouble when my hon. friend was in power in getting a majority. The dark lantern was in evidence in season and out of season. If it were a sawdust wharf, there was no trouble


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: There was no charge about the sawdust wharf.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Or if it were a
question of the ballot papers of that gentleman named Lott-not the Lot my hon. friend knows so well in Scriptures, whose wife was turned to salt, hut the Lott .who was connected with the ballot boxes, and the ballot papers. On that side of the House you always acquit by majority. We find our men innocent by judges. That is the difference.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: You choose your own magistrate.


Richard Bedford Bennett: And we chose a chief magistrate, and one who knows the Scriptures as well as my hon. friend from Cape Breton. My hon. friend speaks of the prophet Ezekiel. (My hon. friend from Carleton refers to prophets, but he spells it with an " f ".) I submit that on the state-

merit made by my hon. friend from Cape Breton the case is complete.


William Pugsley: Which case is that?


Richard Bedford Bennett: The case I am making for Mr. Rogers, and this Government. I will admit there was completeness also in the case established against the hon. gentlemen from St. John. I have no doubt that is what he refers to. Here we have my hon. friend standing in his place, and saying " What we want is an acquittal by a partisan majority."
What we say is that we want the reverse, a judicial tribunal, to determine whether our ministers are falsely or properly charged with these offences. The judicial tribunal has made its report, and it ill becomes any gentleman practising his profession as a lawyer" to charge men with whitewashing who have had the administrative and judicial experience of Sir Ezekiel McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellder. I do think this Parliament should rise beyond that. To-morrow some hon. gentleman opposite, 'having become a minister of the Crown may find himself in a similar position. If the leader of the Opposition were called upon to form a government. I have no doubt that he would exercise the same discretion that he did in years gone by. Knowing how unfit was the material he had behind him, he would go to the provinces and get men to form hie government; he could not form a government with men of the type of the Carvells, the McKenzies, the Oopps, the Carrolls and the Pugsleys.


Wilfrid Laurier: But I had
heard that the Prime Minister wanted to rule with Carvell.


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Hear, hear.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Judging from the applause with which that remark was greeted what my right hon. friend says may be so.	[DOT]


Wilfrid Laurier: I would not
have to go so far, then, as my hon. friend says.


Richard Bedford Bennett: My right hon.
friend has that great quality, that commanding quality, which has always characterized him-it is almost genius-of inducing those with whom he has been associated to believe that in the event of his coming into power every one of them would be fit to hold a position in the Government. But alas, when the moment comes, the fruit is found to be the apple of Sodom; and when his eager followers come to taste

it, they find that it turns to ashes on their lips. My Tight hon. friend under these circumstances would do what he did of old- go outside for his Blairs, his Mowats and his Fieldings.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: They filled the positions well.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Yes, they filled
the positions with great distinction and with high honour to themselves and to the country which they served. I have no doubt that those who sit behind my right hon. friend now are anxiously waiting for the day when, they think an ill-guided people may put them into power, and when each of them will become ministers. I can tell by the look of profound wisdom on the face of the member for Guysborough (Mr. Sinclair) that he would fill the office of Marine and Fisheries with distinction. I can imagine the member for North Cape Breton (Mr. McKenzie) wondering whether he will again adorn the Bench, fill some portfolio or, peradventure, serve the State in a lesser capacity. I can see the member for Carleton (Mr. Carvell) vieing with the member for St. John (Mr. Pugsley) as to which shall be which; as to who shall be the greater in Israel. I can see the member for Pictou (Mr. Macdonald) vieing with the member for Halifax (Mr. A. K. Maclean) and endeavouring to determine which shall represent the great province of Nova Scotia if, peradventure, the member for Guysborough is overlooked. But when the great day comes, they will all find themselves beyond the pale.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: I hope that the Chairman is making a note of this discussion. The hon. gentleman is going rather far afield.


An hon. MEMBER:: I suppose it is all in order.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Entirely in order.


John Howard Sinclair: Admitting all that the hon. gentleman has said, I would ask him to justify the proposal to ask the people of Canada to pay for the vindicating of the character of Mr. Rogers.


Richard Bedford Bennett: I was just illustrating my argument. I was pointing out that some hon. gentlemen opposite were hoping to fill positions of responsibility in the State. I hope that some day they may. It is in the interest of the State that they should, so that they may once more illustrate by their performances in office their unfitness for the positions. I was pointing out that if a minister of the Crown

from Nova Scotia should by a commission of inquiry be found guilty of malfeasance, the Government of the day should have the strength, the power and the courage to say: We will appoint a commission to determine whether or not the findings made were justified by the evidence, in order that the public life of our public men may not become the subject of attack 'by every man who wishes to throw mud from any quarter. The hon. Mr. Rogers, despite what may be said, had the courage to ask this Parliament to determine, by tribunal, whether-


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Oh, oh.


Richard Bedford Bennett: -this Parliament, and this Government, ig whose hands the honour of Parliament rests for the time being-


William Pugsley: Heaven help this Parliament, then.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Well, I would
rather trust a matter of this kind to a competent tribunal than leave it to the judgment of a partisan majority, as was the case with the hon. member for St. John.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: The hon. gentleman is prejudiced.


Richard Bedford Bennett: No, not prejudiced,
merely biased. After all, those who occupy high office and discharge public trust must have an opportunity to have themselves vindicated if charges made against them are deemed to be unfounded. I believe that if the member for St. John had his way, he would rather that the charge preferred against him and the finding made should have been reviewed by a competent tribunal under the Inquiries Act than that his name and fame should rest entirely upon a partisan majority's view. Of course, in his case the evidence was so conclusive that no tribunal would ever change the original finding; but he would have liked to have the finding reviewed for the sake of history and his place in it. It is too bad that that matter must rest upon the judgment of a partisan majority rather than upon the judgment of justices who are sworn fairly to administer justice and law. Mr. Roger's case is safe in the finding of Sir Ezekiel McLeod and Mr. Justice Tellier, despite the fact that the member for Carleton says that the conclusions which the Commissioners reached are not such as any honest man could accept.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: What has the hon. gentleman to say about the fact that hon.
Mr. Rogers refused to submit any evidence before Mr. Justice Galt, after he was asked to do so?


Richard Bedford Bennett: That is hardly the fact.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: That is on record.


Richard Bedford Bennett: No.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: Oh, yes.


Arthur Meighen: He was asked to appear in argument only after the evidence was in.


William Pugsley: I desire to express my sympathy with the Solicitor General in the fact that lias estimates are being obstructed by the member for Calgary. He has spoken about almost everything under the sun except the matter which is immediately before the committee. The member for Calgary says that he has learned many things from me; there is one thing that he did not learn: to curtail his speeches in the House. Another thing he did not learn was to say the right thing in the Tight place. If my hon. friend ever did an injustice in his life to any friend he did it today to the ex-Minister of Public Works. He has brought into the consideration of this item the question whether the report of Mr. Justice Galt is sustained hy the evidence. That was not an issue until the hon. gentleman rose in his place and made the very extraordinary speech which he delivered to the committee. He has put squarely before the committee the question whether the finding of Mr. Justice Galt was or was not justified by the evidence. My hon. friend, a prominent member of the House, a warm supporter of the Government, a gentleman occupying a position which many people thought would be second in importance only to that of the Prime Minister-Chairman of the National Service Board-eulogizes the finding of the IMcLeod-Tellier Commission and discredits the finding of Commissioner Galt. The member for Carleton, therefore, takes the right course in claiming the right to have a full discussion of the matter dealt with in this item.


Richard Bedford Bennett: Is my hon. friend aware of the fact that the hon. member for Carleton (M. Carvell) raised the issue before I came into the Chamber?


William Pugsley: Not at all.
Mr. R. B. BENNETT [DOT] Well, I heard a part of it.


William Pugsley: All that the hon. member for Carleton pointed out was, as I understand his argument, that there wras no authority,

under the Inquiries Act, for the issue of this commission, and he did not see why the country should be called upon to pay the expenses of it and particularly the fee of the counsel employed to assist the commissioners in arriving at a conclusion. The view I take of this matter is that we have no judgment of a court. The expression of opinion by Mr. Justice Galt is not a judgment of the court; neither is the expression of opinion by Chief Justice McLeod or exjudge Tellier a judgment of a court. They are simply expressions of opinion by those gentlemen which will have no weight and which ought to have no weight either with the people of this country or with the members of this Parliament unless the evidence justifies either the one or the other. That is all. The one is the expression of opinion of two very worthy gentlemen, and the other is the expression of opinion of a gentleman who was appointed, on the recommendation of the ex-Minister of Public Works, to the very high office of judge because of his great ability and integrity, and presumably also because of his impartiality. We have one opinion one way and another opinion the other way. The hon. member for Calgary (Mr. E. B. Bennett) appealed to me as to whether or not Chief Justice McLeod could be suspected for a moment of coming to a wrong or improper conclusion or of dishonesty. I would be the last man in the world to suggest such a thing with regard to -Chief Justice McLeod. He was long at the Bar of New Brunswick, he ie a very eminent judge; he has discharged his judicial duties with great ability, and I have nothing to eay against him personally. But the trouble in regard to the investigation that took place before those two gentlemen was that there w'as no counsel to represent the public-no- counsel to represent the other side. I would not trust the Angel Gabriel to come to a proper conclusion in regard to a question unless both sides were fairly represented.


Arthur Meighen: What side did Mr. Teed represent ?


William Pugsley: Mr. Teed-


Some hon. MEMBERS:: Oh, oh.


William Pugsley: Mr. Teed is one of the warmest Conservatives in the province of New Brunswick.


Arthur Meighen: What has that to do with the matter?


William Pugsley: Mr. Teed was no doubt employed because he was-


Mr. STEVENS:: Because he was an honest man.


William Pugsley: He was employed because it was felt he would aid the commissioners.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Who employed him?


William Pugsley: I have no doubt the Minister of Marine and Fisheries (Mr. Hazen) suggested his appointment.


Arthur Meighen: The hon. member forgets that the hon. member for Carleton (Mr. Carvell) stated that Mr. Teed was employed by Sir Ezekiel McLeod.


William Pugsley: I have no doubt he was suggested by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries as a gentleman desirable to appoint for the purpoSk of aiding the commissioners. But you cannot have an investigation which can be depended upon unless you have both sides of the question fairly represented. Counsel was not present to represent the people and to sustain the view presented by Mr. Justice Galt, to see that all evidence which would have a bearing upon the correctness or otherwise of his opinion was fairly presented before the commission. You must have that in order to have a proper investigation.


Arthur Meighen: We appointed counsel to . assist the commission. The commission was representing the people and no one else. Consequently counsel represented the people. If we were to appoint counsel on one side as against the other, then we would have to appoint counsel for Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers had his own counsel. Why did not the Government of Manitoba follow the same course?


William Pugsley: I am not concerned with the Government of Manitoba. They appointed a commissioner who investigated the matter, and if there was not the fullest opportunity given to Mr. Rogers to be represented by counsel, then the commission was very greatly at fault.


Arthur Meighen: You do not answer the question.


William Pugsley: After all, it is simply a question of the evidence. The matter is still for Parliament to deal with if it chooses to do so.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I understand my hon. friend from St. John has known Chief Justice McLeod for a great number of years.


William Pugsley: Yes.-


Thomas Wilson Crothers: I do not know him,
but I ask my hon. friend: Is Chief Justice

McLeod a man who would sign a report without knowing and approving its contents?


William Pugsley: I have known very
eminent judges-


Thomas Wilson Crothers: What about this particular judge?


William Pugsley: I have known very
eminent judges, judges quite as eminent as Chief Justice McLeod who have been greatly misled by counsel.


Arthur Meighen: Would Mr. Teed mislead him?	,


William Pugsley: If you have a counsel,
no matter how honest he may be, whose inclination was to present views favourable, to those who employed him, it is easy for him to lead a judge into error.


Arthur Meighen: Would Mr Teed mislead Chief Justice McLeod when Chief Justice McLeod employed him? That is a fair question.


William Pugsley: My hon. friend is trespassing upon the credulity of this House, if he thinks that we shall believe that Mr. Teed was not appointed because it was -known that he was in sympathy with this Government; that he would be in sympat1 with Mr. Rogers.


Arthur Meighen: The hon. member for Carleton (Mr. Carvell) said that he was appointed by Chief Justice McLeod, and he was right. Why would Chief Justice McLeod appoint him if he thought he was favourable to this Government?


William Pugsley: I have no doubt he was recommended by the Minister of Marine and Fisheries-. As I have said before, I would not rely upon the judgment of any jud#e, no matter how impartial, how eminent, unless opposing counsel were present. If there is only one counsel presenting one view, there is great danger of a misjud-ment. I -am sorry that my name has been dragged into this discussion. I am rather a modest man, and I do not like my name unduly brought before the House or before the country.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: Your leader introduced it.


William Pugsley: No, it was the Solicitor General who said that the Government was taking a different course to-day from the course taken in 1909. That was the first time my name was introduced, and it has
been bandied about rather freely since then. My hon. friend from Calgary (Mr. R. B. Bennett) says that I stand guilty today before the people of this country because I did not adopt the machinery and get thoroughly whitewashed. I could have had that done, I suppose.


Arthur Meighen: What did the House of Commons do?


William Pugsley: If I had written my
loader saying to him: I want you to appoint two judges and I will suggest-


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: And a lawyer.


William Pugsley: -I would like you to appoint a lawyer, and I have in mind -a lawyer, very eminent, whose" eyes are directed towards the position of Chief Justice of my province, who will do me justice in any case, I would like you to appoint him to assist those commissioners in the investigation. In that case, I have no doubt the lime and the liquid would have been splendidly mixed and a good brush put into play, and I should have received a good coat of whitewash.


Richard Bedford Bennett: You certainly need one.


William Pugsley: But I preferred not to do that. I thought it much better that my trial -should take place in the light of day, in the presence of the whole people of this country, that there should not be a commission that would sit secretly on my case. That is what I thought. And when my hon. friend the present Minister of Labour (Mr. Crothers) made a charge against me in the House based on the' Landry report, so-called, as those who were present will remember, the Speaker ruled that he had no right to do so and that the matter must come up in a different way. My right hon. leader (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) who was then leader of the Government, stated, and I repeated what he stated, that we would take no technical objection, that we wanted the fullest possible inquiry and the most complete investigation. We wanted Parliament to have the evidence upon which this charge was based. The Speaker said that it was irregular for my hon. friend to bring the matter up in that way, but that if we consented, he would allow the matter to proceed.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: You did not give Parliament any evidence.


William Pugsley: When the present Minister of Labour made certain statements, I



said-and Hansard shows it-that the evidence did not support his statements, and he answered with indignation, "I have nothing to do with the evidence, nothing whatever, I rely upon this judgment of the court." My hon. friend rather questioned that to-day.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: You had nothing more to do with he evidence than I had.


William Pugsley: This is what he said- (Hansard, 1909, P. 5655):
' Mr. Pugsley:	My. hon. friend- must pardon
me. I say that there is nothing whatever in the evidence which would justify a statement of that kind, and the statement is absolutely untrue.
Mr. Crothers:	I am not here for the purpose
of discussing the evidence in this case.
And it was he who was prosecuting; it was he who was making the charge that was to drive me out of the Government and out of public life, if possible. He had nothing to do with the evidence, he said. He relied upon the judgment of the court. It did not concern him whether the evidence supported that judgment or not, or whether it was false or not; he had nothing to do with it. To continue:
Mr. Pugsley:	I am not surprised at that.
Mr. Crothers:	I am here standing on the
judgment of a court.
When I came to make my defence I relied upon such evidence as I had.


Arthur Meighen: You did not read -any.


William Pugsley: I did. I quoted many parts of it. I said I had only two volumes of it, and that was all I could get. I said there was more than that.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: You said you would not use the evidence at all.


William Pugsley: I said that the Government had been asked to submit the evidence to the provincial legislature so that we could get a copy of it, but that request was refused. But a friend of mine, acting as counsel for the commissioners, had had the evidence taken by a stenographer, and he sent me a typewritten copy of part of it. That I used, and with that evidence I was able to show that in upwards of twenty instances the report was absolutely contradicted by the evidence, and in a great' many other cases not supported by the evidence. I am not going to refer to it particularly to-day, because I do not want to follow my hon. friend from Calgary and take up a great deal of the time of the House, but I remember that I called atten-

tion to one statement in the report, that the evidence had been conclusive that a certain act of wrong-doing had been committed. I made the -statement that it was absolutely untrue, that it showed the partisan character of these commissioners, and that so -far from it being the case, the evidence was absolutely the other way. Now my hon. friend says that they wanted to try me by the evidence. Let us see for a moment. To- begin with, we have the statement which my right hon. friend the leader of the Opposition read on the 6th of August. Then we have the statement of the present distinguished Minister of Trade and Commerce (Sir George Foster) in a letter to Hon. Mr. Hazen, then Premier of New Brunswick, in which, referring to the matter, he said:
He will say that the report is not based on evidence and that he will, after getting a copy of the evidence, issue a statement showing this to be so. That will be his defence. We propose to get after him here before he gets a copy of the evidence.
Who was the hon. gentleman selected to get after me before I got a copy of the report? It was my hon. friend the present Minister of Labour who lent himself to that design of the Minister of Trade and Commerce. They were going to try to drive me from the Government, and if possible, from public life, before I could get a copy of the evidence.


Thomas Wilson Crothers: You had a copy and
you did not read it.


William Pugsley: But my hon. friend
thought I had not. He was doing what the Minister of Trade and Commerce had written to Mr. Hazen that, they would try to do; he lent himself to that design, in which, I am happy to say, he did not succeed. We have the further fact that the present Minister of Marine and Fisheries knerw th-jjt it was the intention to get after me before I got a copy of the evidence. That was why they refused to submit the evidence to the provincial legislature, because if they submitted it they knew I would get a copy, and they thought I had no copy of it. The present -Minister of Marine and Fisheries, then Premier of New Brunswick, knew that that was the intention, because he had the letter from the present Minister of Trade and Commerce before he sent the report up to Ottawa to be used by my hon. friend in the improper way in which he sought to use it, and did use it. What evidence had Mr. Hazen -at that time, when he knew he was sending a damnable and false report to Ottawa for the purpose of accomplishing the

design he had in view? He had in his possession a letter from Mr. Powell, a very distinguished Conservative employed hy the Provincial Government-paid by the Provincial Government-to assist the commissioners, just as Mr. Teed is to be paid by the Government of Canada to assist these commissioners; he was equally eminent, equally honourable, equally high in the public esteem, equally prominent in the Conservative party-in fact, I would think that Mr. Pewell was even more prominent in the Conservative party than Mr. Teed, because he had been a member of his Parliament, and to-day he occupies a high-salaried position under this Government as a member of the Great Waterways -Commission! He also says that he was doing a great deal of the work which, I presume, Mr. Teed was employed to dov. in connection with this commission; that is to say, he assisted in drawing up many parts of the report. Mr. Powell, in his letter to Mr. Hazen of March 31, 1909, said, among other things:
Another matter which I am sorry has gone in as it did inasmuch as it will give the Opposition press an opportunity to make an attack on the commissioners, is the statement at the bottom of page 18 and top of page 19 to the effect that it appears conclusively from the evidence that the whole $250,000 par value of the 3 per cent bonds had been guaranteed and delivered to the company up to August 6, 1903.
When I was making my speech I referred to the evidence and said it was absolutely false-not only unsupported by the evidence hut absolutely contradicted by it. I did not know then that when Mr. Hazen sent that report here he knew it was false, and that he had a statement from Mr. Powell to the effect that it was false. I simply had to present the matter to the House from my own standpoint, and as I knew the evidence would show it to be. Mr. Powell goes on:
The only evidence to that effect was an impression Mr. Shadbolt had that the whole $250 000 of 3 per cent bonds which were delivered to him at that time had the provincial guarantee on them. Mr. Shadbolt may have been right in his impression, but the statement is not consistent with the Order in Council with reference to guaranteeing the bonds.
A little further on he says:
I drafted the portion of the report referring to the guaranteeing of the bonds, hut Judge Landry himself changed it in the respects I have mentioned. Fortunately the fellows on the other side will know nothing about the matter, and if the statement is challenged the reporter has Mr. Shadbolt's evidence much stronger than he gave it.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: What does that mean?


William Pugsley: It means that the Government reporter had changed the evidence from what was given, and he would find in the typewritten copy a report of evidence which had never been sworn to by the witness. It also means that when Mr. Hazen sent that statement forward to Sir George Foster, Mr. Hazen knew the report was false. It means he knew that the stenographer had the evidence in his transcribed copy much stronger than it had been given and he sends this false report forward to Sir George Foster, and Sir George Foster hands it to the present Minister of Labour in order to present those falsehoods before the members of this House and before the people of this country and to ask that I should be condemned. You have in that evidence of conspiracy in which four prominent members of the Conservative party were engaged. Perhaps I should not in this House call it a conspiracy-I will call it an enterprise.


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: The Minister of Labour would not be engaged in any enterprise.


William Pugsley: Engaged in that enterprise was the present Senator, Hon. Mr. Fowler, who wrote Mr. Hazen recommending certain gentlemen as commissioners and who said that this was a very important thing for them and he believed that the "Genial William"-meaning myself-


Daniel Duncan McKenzie: That was the only truth in it.


William Pugsley: -Could be driven out of business if the thing was handled properly, and he suggests how it might be handled. Then we have Mr. Powell, appointed to the same position as Mr. Teed was appointed to in connection with this commission, not only taking part in the presentation of the evidence, but taking part in the making up of the opinion. We find him writing to Mr. Hazen, and calling his attention to an important matter in which the report is false, and saying that fortunately if it comes up the fellows on the other side would not know anything about it, and if it is questioned the reporter has it down already much stronger than the witness gave it. We find Sir George Foster handing this report to my hon. friend the present Minister of Labour to act upon. Notwithstanding all this, these gentlemen try to make the committee believe that they acted in a very different way, and in a very much better way in regard to Mr. Rogers than the way followed in 1909 by the supporters of the former government. I should be very sorry indeed


Arthur Meighen: Before the committee
rises it seems to me that on the stand taken by the hon. member for .Carleton and the hon. member for St. John there should be no objection to the item going through. As I understand it, they want a chance to discuss the McLeod-Tellier report.


Frank Broadstreet Carvell: I never asked for a
chance to discuss the McLeod-Tellier report, and I have been persistently opposed to discussing the Galt report, il felt it was a matter that should not have been brought up here at all. I object, however, to the 
item being voted to-night in view of the attitude assumed by the Minister of Labour and to a great extent by the Solicitor General, that there was no evidence on which the Galt report could be sustained. Before the -item is voted, I think there should be an opportunity of discussing the evidence.


Arthur Meighen: I thunk the hon. gentleman misrepresents me. I have not asked for this vote on the ground that there is no evidence to justify the Galt report. I distinctly took the other ground; I should ask for the vote just the same if the finding were the other way. I never assented to anything on my own responsibility. I simply say what the tribunal found. The hon. member for Carleton stated very clearly and rightly that the report of Mr. Justice Galt being out, it was impossible to proceed, and we know that the proper course was to have an investigation, and the minister step out in the meantime. That being so, that is all the reason there is for this item. If, by reason of anything that arose in this debate, hon. gentlemen opposite desire to discuss the McLeod-Tellier report, I will undertake that their right to do so will not be prejudiced by this item going through. But we are sincerely anxious to get on as rapidly as we can. I do not want to put my own inconvenience as too important before the committee, -but I do not want to come back and have -an afternoon or night spent on this item for the purpose of a discussion at which I do not need to be present. Is there any objection to the motion being withdrawn and the item passing, it being understood that if hon. gentlemen wish to discuss the McLeod-Tellier report, they will be given, I am pretty sure, by the Prime Minister, the -right to do so. At all events, their-right to do so will not be prejudiced by the item going through.


Wilfrid Laurier: We can take a vote upon it.


Arthur Meighen: I understand that there was an arrangement between the whips that there would be no division this afternoon.


Wilfrid Laurier: It could be
declared carried on division.
Resolution agreed to on division.
On motion of Sir Thomas White, the Ho use adjourned at 6.05 p.m.



[Stage Direction]
Abbreviations.-lr., 2r„	3r. = first, second, or third reading. Arndt. = Amendment. Cota
Committee. Con. = Consideration.	Div. = Division. M.=Motion. Ref.
Reference. Rep. := Report. Res. = Resolution. Sec. = Section.	*
Abbotsford postmaster, 608 Achim, Mr. Honore i T.a belie)
Military Service Bill, 2873 Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 9, 47, 83, 119, 160, 195, 249 Address to His Majesty the King. See Parliament : Extension of term of Adjournment moved to discuss matter of urgent public importance Mr. Pardee, returned soldiers, 459 Mr. Lemieux, liquor in military camps, 806 Mr. Kyte, price of flour, 1039 Mr. Devlin, conservation of grain, 1176 Mr. Macdonald, German submarines, 1320 Mr. Oliver, removal of rails, 1820 Mr. Turriff, farm labour, 3504 Mr. Macdonald, munitions, 5517 Adulteration of food. See Food Advertising, government
Department of the Secretary of State, 656 Recruiting, 986, 3136 Aeroplane. See Air service and Aviation Aetna Explosives Company, 4508
Agriculture
Animals
Health of, 2271 Loaning of to farmers, 4152 Pure bred, purchase of, 2276 See, under this head, Live stock.
Apples, embargo on export of, 5776 Associations, 2276 Beans for seed, 671, 1473 Bulletins, 2082, 2274 Butter
Imports and exports of, 1573 Purchases by British Government, 899 Cattle. See, under this head, Live stock Cheese
Imports and exports of, 1573 Manufacturing and curing of, 2265 Purchase of by British Government, 1774, 1863, 1971, 2197, 2257, 2265, 2267, 2557 See also Food
Agriculture-Ccn.
Dairy industry, 953, 2075, 2256 Department
Estimates, 654, 2062, 2255, 2924, .3744, 4677 French-speaking employees of, 2262, 2265 Publications 2062, 2274 Staff and salaries, 4924 Development of, 2578 Exhibitions, 2260, 2270 Experimental farms, 2055, 2063, 4682 Hay
Embargo on, 1222 Imports and exports of, 1574 Inspection and grading of, 3402 Purchases of by British Government, 5086	'	.	.
Hogs
Inspection of, 2271
Cholera, 2273	,	.	.Insect pests, 2066, 2075	.	.
Labourers. See Labour
Horses, compensation for destruction of, 2056	.
Live stock
British embargo on, 918, 987, 1535 Pure bred, purchase of, 2276 Shipments, inspection of, 1841 See also Live stock and Produce Bill Noxious weeds, 2068 Parcel post shipments, 2072 Plant diseases
Rust in wheat, 2063, 2067 Powdery scab in potatoes, 2269, 5991' Potatoes
Accumulation of on railways, 607 Duty, proposed removal, 703, 5274, 5777, 6982
Exports and imports of, 2267, 5982 Powdery scab, 2269, 5991 Prices and supply of, 936, 1087, 1189, 1437, 2095
Seed, 1473
Straw, utilization of, 4683 Veterinary Director General, 987 See also Cold storage, and Food
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Agricultural Instruction Act
Administration of, 3755	.
Payments to Prince Edward Island under, 455
Aiken, Mr. G. O., employment of, 4151, 4508 Air Service, 805, 1039, 1127, 1331. See Aviation
Alase, Motor boat, 5360
Alberta, enlistments in, 3373, 3375
Alcohol
Distillation of, 3742 Public institutions, for. 5103 Alcoholic liquors
Revenue from sale and manufacture of, 304
Sale of to soldiers. See Army: camps See also Intoxicating liquors, Prohibition and Grain
Aldershot camp. See Army Aliens
Armenians and Assyrians, franchise rights of under War-time Elections Act, 5421 Disfranchisement of, 1862, 5416 Enlistment of, 4413, 4415 Homestead rights of, 3808 Naturalization of, 3810 Ames, Sir Herbert B. (Montreal, St Antoine) Budget, 742 The tariff, 742
Government expenditure, 743 Building of highways, 744 Taxation of business profits, 745 Debt of Canada, 745 Military Service, 2738
Contravention of Act, 3346 Enforcement, 2744 Exemptions, 3220 Petitions for and against, 2738 Recruiting, progress of, 2742 Patriotic Fund
Disbursements, 378, 382 Pensions, 382 Pensions, military, 1615 Soldier Settlement Board, 3785 Soldiers
Assigned pay of, 384 Pay of, 3215
Returned, provision for, 756 Voting of, 4781, 4912
Taxation of incomes, 4084, 4095, 4099, 4641, 4647
Unclaimed bank balances, 1008 War charities, 6064 American Turf Association, 47 Amqui-St. Leonard mail contract, 3903 Anderson, Mr. David, employment of, 1265


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INDEX-1917
[Stage Direction]
iii
Army-Con.
Intoxicating liquor in, 535, 806, 1226, 1266, 1561, 1567
Petewawa land claims, 5241 Training, in Canada, 899 Canteen system in England, 718 Casualties
June 30, 1916, to June 5, 1917, 2201 June, 1917, 3719 July, 1917, 4151 August 16-31, 1917, 5901 Civil servants, in, pay and allowance to, 663, 713
Classifications, 2185 Commissions, granting of, 203, 207 Conscription. See Military service Demobilization plans, 3118 Dental Service, 31 Officers, 1574, 4009 Desertions, 338, 3111 Discharge
Purchase of, 3111 Regulations governing, 3096, 3098 Table of, 3096 Total to June 30, 1917, 4152 Work pay, on, 457 Divisions, 459, 2186 Enlistment
Aliens, of, 4413, 4415. See below Persons of foreign birth British army, in, 385 Civil Service, from. See Civil Service Different units, in, 29, 245 Farmers, of, 4685 Figures
April 30, 1917, to, 1572 June 30, 1917, to, 4152 July, 1917, 4151
Generally, 2411,	2442,	2446-2451, 2454,
2463-2478, 2573, 2583, 2600. 2624, 2631, 2647, 2855, 2884, 2904 Moosejavy, at, 5122 Non-residents, of, 1476 Persons of foreign birth, 3556, 3759. See above, Aliens Provinces, by, 216, 221 Unfit men, of, 697, 3099, 3107, 4003 Urban and rural, 3135 Western provinces, from, 4685 Equipment, 23. See also War supplies Expeditionary force Command of, 28, 268
Conditions governing in respect of British Government, 1576 Control of by Canada, 20, 39 Disposition of, 268, 1816, 2356 Holiday for, proposed, 5902, 6065 Status *f, 259
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"	!V:	3187-4242.
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Army-Con.
Terms respecting enlistment in, 1576 Fifth Canadian Division, command of, 459 Highland Brigade, 458, 552. 556 Hospitals. See that title Irish-Canadian Rangers, 458 Medical .service. See Canadian Army Medical Service
Non-commisisoned officers, 1608 Officers
Alleged surplus of, 3102 Appointments, charges regarding, 98 Mentioned in despatches, 4062 Pay of, 1628, 1673, 5773 Reversion in ranks, 3997, 5773 Retention of on leave, 5902 Salutes to, 5424 Unemployed, 560, 3102 Wives of, passports for, 3996 For individual officers see their names Overseas Department
Officers employed by, 6069 See also under this head Expeditionary force
Pay and Records office, staff of, 3104 Pensions. See that title Recruiting
Advertising in connection with, 986, 3136 Civil Service, from. See that title Correspondence between Prime Minister and ex-minister of Militia, 2446, 3086 Expenses, 1959 Folkstone Director of, 1226 Forestry battalions, for, 5703 Generally, 51, 69, 86, 98, 101, 269, 559, 2395, 3371
Irish, Mr. Mark, statements of, 2707 Medical examination of recruits, 3098, 3963, 3967
National service proposals, 360 Officers
Bona venture county, 1675 Cape Breton, 5361 Quebec, 3135 Rimouski, 456
Orders in Council respecting, 2482 Provinces, by, 2511. See also under titles of Provinces
Retarding of, alleged, 3086, 3110 Statement by Prime Minister, 194 System of, 360, 372 United States
British subjects in, 2482 Canadians in, 3758, 3759, 3904, 4466 Regiments 104th, 1570 165th, 1725
Reinforcements. See Military Service.


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INDEX-1917 v
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Bank Act Amendment Bills-Con.
3 Bill No. 65, Sir Thomas White-loans on farmers' live stock. Res., 1960; lr., 1971; 2r., (referred to Banking and Commerce Committee), 2149 Bank of Commerce, Canadian, 4686 Banks and banking Savings deposits, 4685 Unclaimed hank balances, 1001 Barnard, Mr. Geo. H. (Victoria, B.C.)
Judges' salaries, 1976 Railway Act, The, 3529 Barrette, Mr. Joseph A. (Berthier)
Gauthier, Mr. R. J., denial of statements of, 2570
Halifax Chronicle, statement in, 3352
Military Service Bill, 2521 Amendment proposed, 2524 Opposition to compulsory service, 2522 Referendum proposals, 2523 Bartlett, Major, position of, 4292, 4416, 5422 Bathurst harbour improvements, 3872 Baugh, Edward Levi Defalcations of, 1470 Release of, 2481
Baxter, Leslie E„ employment of, 3418 Bawdy houses. See Criminal Code Amendment Bills
Bay State Fish Company, 2321 Beans. See Agriculture.
Bear River, N.S.
Indian agents, 1569 Post office site, 1378, 1569 Beland, Hon. H. S., M.P., detention of in Germany, 311, 341, 524
Belford, Major J. F„ position of, 5703 Bell, Mr. Graham, pay of, 1129 Bell, steamer, 1377.
Bell Telephone Company, 3548
Bell Telephone Memorial Association, 5780
Bellemare, Mr. A. (MaskinongO)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 294
Military service, 294, 2823, 3573 Bennett, Mr. R. B. (Calgary)
Bishop of Mackenzie River, 868 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4566, 4627-4638, 5149 Civil Service salaries, 2248 Companies, incorporation of, 5924-5942 Government railways, rolling stock, 4931 Gwatkin, General, 4428
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Galt, Mr. Justice, investigation into report of. 2056
Gauthier, Mr. L. J., denial of statements
of, 2570
Gordon Divorce Bill, 5903 High Commissioner, Canadian, officeof,4177 Hospitals, military, 464 House of Commons Business of the House
Morning sittings, 2619, 2775, 2833 Saturday sittings, 324. 2569 Wednesday sittings, 324 Mace, new, 1468 Members, tributes to deceased, 3 Officials
Appointments, 586
Clerk of the House, retirement of. 6069 Sergeant-at-arms, death of, 6069 Imperial Munitions Board, labour, 1986 Imperial War Cabinet and Imperial War Conference
Adjournment of House for, 117, 597, 603 Announcement re meeting of, 42 Correspondence respecting, 5, 24 Proceedings, 1525
Cattle embargo, 1535 Dominions overseas, constitutional relations of, 1528, 1531 Development and control of natural resources, 1532 France, visit to, 1536 Imperial preference, 1532 India, representation of, 1534 Minutes of. 2354 Soldiers' graves, 1534 Statements by British Prime Minister, 2354
Judges' salaries, 5955 Labour bureaus, establishment of, 118 Lake of the Woods water level, 2775 Landry, Mr. Justice, finding of, 3110, 3615 Lessard, General, 364 Mace, vote of thanks to donors of, 1468 Members of Parliament, tributes to deceased, 3
Military Service Bill Introduction, 1542, 2184 Amendment of Mr. Copp, 3078 Appeals, 2191, 3178 Army Act, regulations of, 3114 Available men, 2390 Board of Selection, 5083 Canada's position in the war,' 2184 Contraventions of Act, 3342-3351, 3361, 3588
Exemptions, 3208, 3363, 6068 Exceptions, 3559
Borden, Rt. Hon. Sir R.-Con.
General provisions, 3239, 3259	.
Militia Act, provisions of. 2187 Necessity for reinforcements, 2187 Persons liable for service, 3116 Registrars, 5900 Senate amendments, 4663 Tribunals, 2190, 3152
Mounted Police, Royal Northwest, 4174, 4667
National Service Commission, 309, 370 Nationalist Party, 4564
O'Connor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3745, 3747, 3749
Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4196, 4417, 4436
Parliament, extension of term of, 37, 3419, 3504
Parliament, printing of, 5950 Parliamentary procedure
Order of the day, reinstatement of, 2877 Question of privilege, discussion on, 600 Votes and proceedings, correctness of entry in, 2880
Parliamentary Secretaryships, 4196, 4417, 4438
Peace terms, consultation with Dominions on. 300
Pensions, 6018
Pension Commissioners, 4958 Political deadlock, rumoured, 1971 Press censorship, 3654, 3718, 3955, 4059 Racing meets, limitation of, 323 Railway Act, The, 603 Railways
Employees, payment of salaries of, 5956 Material, removal of to France, 310 Traffic, congestion of, 587 Recruiting	,
Alleged statement regarding, 194 Correspondence with ex-Minister of Militia, 2446, 3086, 3371 Figures for 1916, 379 Retarding of, alleged, 3371	*
Systems explained, 360-382, 2482 Rogers, Hon. Robert, resignation of, 4736 Ross rifle, 392, 408-434, 477-522 Speaker, election of, 1 Taxation of incomes, 4655 Union Government
Correspondence with Sir Wilfrid Laurier, 2690
Rumoured political deadlock, 1971 Votes and proceedings, correctness of entry in, 2880 War
Expenditure, 354, 476 Requirements, See Military Service
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Rimouski
Government employees, 2165 Recruiting officers, 456 St. Lawrence signal and telegraph service, 1471
Scientific and industrial research, 3957 Senate, proposed change in constitution of, 1145
South African war, 2200 Steamship services, 2323 Technical education, 1249 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5384 Troops, alleged insults to, 2756 Veterinary Director General, 987 Bourassa, Mr. J. Boutin (L4vis)
Gravel, Lieut. Gedfion, 1674 Gravelle, Oscar, 1226 Levis railway station, 1129 Military Service Bill, 3069, 3147 St. Romuald public works, 1129 Boy Scouts Association, 2062, 3740 Boyce, Mr. Arthur C. (West Algoma) Military Service, 3147 Boyce, George H., position of, 1472 Boyer, Mr. Gustave (Vaudreuil)
Butter and cheese purchases, 899 Maple sugar-adulteration, 1958 Military service, 2931 Boys, Mr. W. A.'(South Simcoe)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 90
Patriotism of Canadian women, 90 Simcoe county and the war, 90 Loyal Orange Order, 91 The Dorchester election, 92 National service, 93 Recruiting in Quebec, 94 Bradbury, Mr. George H. (Selkirk)
Army canteens, 811 Army and navy veterans, 5910 Capital punishment, 634 Dominion Lands Act amendment, 3799 Military service, 3190 United Grain Growers, Limited, 893 War affairs, Government administration of, 3383
Borden, Rt. Hon. Sir R.-Con.
Supplies-clothing, motor trucks, Oliver equipment, wagons, 556-558 Trophies, exhibit of, 6003 War Purchasing Commission, 32 War-time Elections Bill. 5576. 5648-5702, War vote ($500,000,000), 354, 586 5706, 5805, 5834, 6071 Woman suffrage, 1504 Yukon price advances, 2199
Boulay, Mr. Hermenegilde (Rimouski) Agriculture Department, French-speaking employes of, 2262, 2265 Army Medical Service, 3989 Bright, the late John, 987 Budget, 1085 Free wheat, 1085
Behaviour of soldiers passing through Quebec, 1086
Necessity for co-operation with the Government, 1087 Civil Service
Employment of men in higher offices, 1256
French-speaking employees, 2262, 2265, 2340, 2759
Salaries, 2239, 2251 Government railways Accidents, 1376
Operation and management of, 3389 Removal of obstructions, 595 Rolling stock, 594 St. Fabien crossing, 2226, 3389 Government Railways Act amendment, 4373, 4382
Interior Department, French-speaking employees, 2340 Mail service, 3640
McWilliams, Mr., dismissal of, 2167 Military Service Bill Authority of Parliament, 2761 Classes, 3353 Exceptions, 3571 Exemptions, 3190, 3306 Quebec, position of, 2754 National Transcontinental Railway Express service, 595
Fitzpatrick yard and engineer's residence, 455, 456 Telegraph line, 456 Ottawa Citizen, statement of, 2776 Parliament buildings, destruction of-indemnities for losses, 4413 Pension Commissioner's staff, 608 Quebec
Recruiting in, 2754
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Bran. See Grain
Brantford moulders' strike, 2322
Breadner, Mr. R. W., position of, 3676
Bright, the late John, 987
Brindle, Mr. William, dismissal of, 3758
British Admiralty, recruiting in Canada for, 4159, 4163
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British Government and Canadian Pacific Railway Financial Arrangements Bill,
lr., 1369. 2i\, 2059. Com., 2059. Rep., 2061, 3r., 2139
British Government, war supplies, purchases of in Canada, 4953, 5517, 5541 Bromptonville postmaster, 1129.
Brouillard, Mr. Ovide (Drummond and Arthabaska)	.
JEtna Explosives Company, 4508 Military service, 3072
Bruce, Dr., investigations of. See Canadian Army Medical Service Buchanan, Mr. W. A. (Medicine Hat)
Army allowances, subsistence, 5915 Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5178	.
Coal mining, western, 119, 458, 523, 1266, 1372, 1616, 1723, 1725, 2526, 2570, 2653 Coutts quarantine reserve, 590 Economic and Development Commission, 1125
Farm labour, 3507 Fuel, 1414 Grain
Commission, 3711 Elevators, 986 Seed, advances for, 303, 305 Home guard duty, 336
Hudson's Bay Company lands, taxation of. 986
Hyde, Mr. J. W., 301 Indian reserves, 989, 2389 Judgments, uniform interest on, 900 Letter carriers' salaries, 1474 Medicine Hat military reserve, 301 Military service, 2600 Exemptions, 2607 Referendum proposals, 2607 Taxation of wealth, 2608 Mounted Police pensions, 5701 Oil-boring machinery, 301 Proportional representation, 913 School lands, western, 1378 Shaw, Mr. F. D., dismissal of, 1847 Soldier Settlement Board, 1163 Soldiers, former occupations of, 4685 Taxation
Farm implements, 1686 Hudson's Bay Co. Lands, 986 Income, 1687, 4122 Wealth, 2608
Unclaimed bank balances, 1009 War-time Elections Bill, 5580 Woman suffrage, 1515
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Levis station, 2208 Maritime Express service, 8 Milford ballast pit, 2320 Obstructions, removal of, 1378 Operation of, 759 Passenger service, 2203 Peniac bridge, 2320 Pension fund. 1478 Rails, 1575 Rates, coal, on, 4292 Station accommodation, 2227 Stations, naming of, 3386 Tracadie siding, 2618
See also Government Railways Act Amendment Bill.
Intoxicating liquors, shipment on, 591 Level crossing, Pictou harbour branch, 304 Line improvements, 2204
Military and hospital trains, 2205 National Transcontinental Earnings, 2203
Engineers' residence at Fitzpatrick, 455, 456
Express service, 595 Fitzpatrick yard, 455 Freight rates, 2210, 3394 Operation, 657, 1573, 3411,
Expenses of, 2203 Portneuf claims, 1571
Rails, removal of to France, 1229, 1266, 2225
St. Malo shops, 1128 Salmon river viaduct, 2212 Solicitor's fees, 454 Telegraph line, 456 Ties, purchases of, 455 Traffic, 2209, 2218 Obstructions, removal of, 595 Officials, 657, 3390 Operation of, 2203, 3386 Passenger service, 2207 Prince Edward Island
Car ferry and terminals, 2205 Widening of, 3902, 3945 Quebec railways, 4948, 5452 Rails, 2224
Rolling stock, 594, 4928. See, under this title, Cars
Safety-first inspectors, 337 Ships, Building of, for, 4939, 5429 Valley railway, 13S0 Working expenses, 3410 See also Government Railways Act Amendment Bill
Canadian Northern Railway-Con.
Capital stock of affiliated companies held by, 4626
Payments on interest account, 4338 Removal of rails from, 301, 3398 Canadian Northern Railway Company.
Financial statements respecting, 4058 Report of Drayton-Acworth Commission, 4011
Canadian Northern Railway Acquisition Bill.
Res., 4022, 4215, 4217, 4247. lr„ 4293.	2r.,
4467,	4512,	4566. Com., 4590,	4622,
4835, 4960, 5015.	3r„ 5108, 5123-5194
Amendment proposed: Mr. Graham, 4477; lost on div., 4590
Closure applied, 5002, 5015, 5121, 5123 Canadian Pacific Railway. See British Government
Canadian Patriotic Fund, 595, 3078 Allowances from, 203, 207, 383, 3951 See also War Charities Canadian Press Limited, 3740 Canals, 3402, 3417
For individual canals, see their titles Canteen. See Army Cape Bold breakwater, 3873 Cape Breton
Recruiting officers, 5361 Senate representation, 89 Cape Cove pier, 3879 Capital Punishment,
Plebiscite proposed, 1016 Russia's abolition of; proposed congratulations, 1012 Spain case, 1018
Women and children, in cases of, 1017, 1150
See Criminal Code Amendment Bills Caraquet and South Shore Railway, 2223,
Cardin, Mr. P. J. A. (Richelieu)
Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5175
Military Service Bill, 3058 St. Lawrence Flour Mills Company, 4509 Carleton beach protection works, 1128 Caron, Mr. Hector, employment of, 4151 Carrier, Emile, allowance to, 581 Carroll, Mr. Wiliiam F. (South Cape Breton)
. Aeroplane service, 1331
Army Recruiting Officers, Cape Breton. 5361
Budget, 1424
Taxation of incomes, 1424 Government expenditure, 1425 So-called prosperity, 1426 Control of food prices, 1427
Canadian Northern Railway.
British Columbia, lines and works aided by province of, 4987
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Reply to statements of Mr. Edwards, 1430
Canada Temperance Act, 5244 Canadian Government Railways, private cars, 4033
Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 5140	,
Censors and decoders, 576
Customs Department, motor boats, 3759
Dental officers, 1574
East Bay wharves, 5315, 5317
Flour, price of, 1044
Food products, prices and control of, 1427 Indians-Sydney reserve, 1888 Insurance, 5203 Macdonald, Miss Jessie, 5361 McNeil, Lt. John D„ 5272 Military Service, 2854 Nova Scotia steamship service, 2291 Shipbuilding, 1331 Submarine situation, 1329 Taxation Incomes, 1424 Wealth, 2859
Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo Railway, 2613
Carroll, Lieut. W. F., M.P., position and pay of, 6066
Carson, Major General, position of, 986 Carvell, Mr. Frank B. (Carleton, N.B.) Agricultural instruction, 3755 Army, soldiers
Pay of, on promotion, 5423 Voting of, 4795-4834, 4874-4887, 48894914
Bear river, N.S.
Indian agents, 1569 Wharfinger, 1378 British preference, 1711 Canada Gazette, 3738 Canada Temperance Act, 1263, 3739, 5243 Canadian Government Railways Branch lines, 2230
National Transcontinental, Salmon river viaduct, 2212
Promotion of employees, 766 Quebec railways, 5464 Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 4253, 4266, 5146 Companies, incorporation of, 5928-5942 Criminal Code amendments, jurors, 4301, 4318
Daylight saving, 3682
Desjardins, Lt. Col., 1818
Farm implements, duty on, 1708
Flour, price of, 1051
Georgian Bay Canal Commission, 989
Gordon divorce case, 5903
Carvell, Mr. F. B.-Con.
Government Railways Act amendment, 4340, 4356, 4366, 4863 Grain, fixing of price of, 3688 Hollocody, Captain, 897 House of Commons Members, sessional indemnity of, 5790. Stenographers, 5789 Hudson Bay railway, 2230 Immigration agents, 1737, 1756 Indians,
New Brunswick, 1889	'
Reserves, cutting timber on, 1889 Insurance, 4388, 5202
Maritime Provinces, military affairs, 5226 McLeod-Tellier Commission, 5247, 5254 McNeil, F. C., payments to, 1380 Military district No. 6, 5226 Military service, 2709
Appeals, 3179	*
Referendum, 2711 Tribunals, 3152, 3161 O'Connor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3746, 3753 Parliament, railway transportation for members of, 3519 Potatoes, duty on, 5777 Proposed removal, 5274, 5982 Public works expenditure, 5348 Quarantine service, 3756 Quebec harbourmaster, 897 Railway employees, payment of salaries of, 59-57, 5997
Railway Act, The, 3422-3453, 3516-3553, 3593, 3717
Ross rifle, 388, 412-434
Rural mail service, 3647
St. John harbour improvements, 5347
Soldiers, votes for, 1404
Sugar, colouring of, 1957
Surveys, 1346
Tariff revision, 1699
Taxation
Business profits, 1452, 4245 Income, 1452, 1701, 3768, 5884 Telegraph and telephone lines, 3543, 53635404, 5410
Unclaimed bank balances, 1007 Victoria breakwater, 1381 Valley railway, 1380
War Purchasing Commission Inquiry re purchases, 340
War-time Elections Bill, 5660, 6676-5699, 5713
West Edmonton forest rangers and homestead inspectors, 1476 104th Regiment, 1570
Cattle. See Agriculture
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Censors and decoders, 576, 3718 Louisburg, at, 4008, 4048 See "The Fiddlers"
Census
Male population of Canada, 2283 Western, 2336 C. E. Tanner, steamer, 5362
Chabot, Mr. John L. (Ottawa)
Civil Service
Appointments, 2020 Salaries, 2251 Military service, 2781
Enlistment in Quebec, 2784
Chabot, Lt.-Col. J. L., M.P., position and pay of, 988
Chairman of Committees. See Deputy Speaker
Charitable and patriotic enterprises, organization and control of, 378, 462
Charlton, Mr. William A. (Norfolk)
Budget, 1304
Pulp and paper industry, 1304 Chicago drainage canal, 302 Chicoutimi, pure bred animals at, 4162
Chinese Immigration Act Amendment Bill.
lr„ 843.	2r., com., 2139. Rep., 2149.
3r., 2285
Chisholm, Mr. A. W. (Inverness)
Economic and Development Commission, 2200
Fish and fisheries
Advisory Board, 2151 Dogfish, 2177
Inverness harbour, improvements, 5326 Margaree harbour improvements, 3867, 5330 National Service, provincial directors of, 2200
Nova Scotia public works, 5319, 5337 Scotch Hill post office, 3649 Steamship service, 2301, 2306 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5371
Cheese. See Agriculture: Dairy Civil Service
Act, administration of, 1791 Appointments
Order in Council, Jan. 1917, under, 3003 Regulations governing, 643 Returned soldiers, 643
See also Army: Soldiers: Returned Section 21, under, 607, 650, 693, 1023, 1351, 1937
Compulsory retirement from, alleged, 2059
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Dismissals, proposed, 3633 Employees, French-speaking, 2262, 2759 Employment of men in higher offices, 1256 Enlistments from, 192, 2014
Pay and separation allowances, 213, 663 Insurance, 3503
Mail carriers. See Post office	<
Promotions, 2010, 2011, 2238, 4666 Salaries, 1791, 2008, 2238, 2946 Enlisted men, of, 1353, 2014, 2252 Proposed increases, 583 See Civil Service Act Amendment Bill.
For departments see their titles
Civil Service Act Amendment Bill. Res., 2008. lr., 2024.	2r., 2149. Com., 2238.	3r.,
Clark, Mr. Hugh (Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for External Affairs) Mounted police, 4668	[DOT]
Clark, Mr. Michael (Red Deer)
Army, canteens, 811 Budget, 736
Problems arising from the war, 736	,
Necessity for economy, 737 Taxation of incomes, 738 Maintenance and extension of our foreign commerce, 739 Free trade, 740
Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4867
Grain for breweries and distilleries, 1183 Military service, exemptions, 3367 Newspaper articles, correction of, 3617 Parliament, extension of term of, 3492, Political deadlock, rumoured, 1971	,
Referendum, 2665 Senate, appointments to, 934 Separation allowances, 1191 Soldiers, votes for, 1387 Taxation
Business profits, 737 Income, 738, 4639
Woman suffrage, 1518	.
Clarke, Mr. W. A. (North Wellington) Military Service Bill, 2861
Clergy as immigration agents, 5361
Clements, Mr. H. S. (Comox-Atlin)
Wharves, construction of, 5318 Cloakey, George, employment of, 1819 Closure. See Speaker, Parliamentary Procedure; Canadian Northern Railway Acquisition Bill
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Coal miners' strikes. See Mines
Coalition government, 2463, 2887, 2901, 3000,
3014, 3023, 3727, 3732 Political deadlock rumoured, 1941 See National government Correspondence between Sir Robert Borden and Sir Wilfrid Laurier, 2692
Cochrane, Hon. Frank (Minister of Railways
and Canals)
Canadian Government railways Cars, purchase of, 4928 Coal purchases, 664, 667 Freight rates, 3394 Hudson Bay railway, 5087 Intercolonial Cars, 2227
Construction and betterments. 2224 Management and operation, 775 Officials, appointment of, 658 Passenger service, 2203 Line improvements, 2204 Military and hospital trains, 2205 Rails, 2224
National Transcontinental Freight rates, 2210 Operation, 658 Salmon River viaduct, 2217 Operating expenses, 2203 Prince Edward Island railway terminals and car ferry, 2205 Canals
St. Peter's, 3406 Trent, 2206, 3405 Welland, 2206 Coal
Confiscation of by railways, 584 Shortage, 83 Prices, 666
Government Railways Act Amendment Bill, 3845, 4339, 4365, 4386
Provincial legislators, free transportation for, 684
Quebec railways. 5472
Railway Act, the, 194, 602, 605, 3421, 3511 -3553, 3592-3608, 3718 Railway, situation, inquiry into, 3408 Railways-France, removal of materials to, 311, 1825, 3407
Railways and Canals Department estimates, 657, 2202, 3385, 4925, 4928, 5428 St. John and Quebec Railway Act Amendment Bill, 2433, 3401
Cockshutt, Mr. William F. (Brantford)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 100 The war, 100
Cockshutt, Mr. W. F.-Con.
Camp Borden, 101
Recruiting, 101
France and the war, 102
President Wilson's peace proposals, 103
Control of foodstuffs, 106
Canada's trade, 108
Army; officers, reversion to ranks of, 4000 Bell Telephone Memorial Association, 5780 Flour, price of, 1065 Military service, 2599, 3233 Labour, 2604 Recruiting, 101 Soldiers' pay, 2603 Taxation *
Income, 4077, 4080, 4092 Cold Storage,
Plants
Effect of, upon cost of living, 2027 Government control of, 1628 Proposed nationalization of, 2076 Subsidies for, 2076, 2255, 3744 Loelcport Cold Storage Company, 2202 Commerce, Canadian Bank of, 4886 Committees. See House of Commons * Companies Act Amendment Bills,
Corporations for other purposes than gain, (No. 129, Sir Thomas White) lr„ 5242 General (No. 132, Sir Thomas White), lr., 5880; 2r„ 5918; com., 5918; 3r„ 5953 Uniformity (No. 43, Mr. A. K. Maclean), lr., 843; 2r., 1151 Compulsory military service,
See Army and Military Service Bill Contract Prices, Bill to prohibit,
See Criminal code amendment Confederation, fiftieth anniversary celebration, 11, 16, 24, 38, 47, 150, 161, 175, 524 Committee
Apointed 587	'
Joint action with Senate, 642 Report, made, 1865; adopted, 2283 Connaught, The late Duchess of Expressions of sympathy on death of, 609 Conscription
Manhood, of, 14, 54, 191, 893, 1586. See Military service
Blondin, Hon. P. E., alleged statement of, 339
Wealth. See Taxation Conservation
Commission, salaries, etc., 3744, 5793 Forestry-poplar trees. 3742 Copp, Mr. A. B. (Westmorland)
Address in reply to the Governor General's speech, 160
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Recruiting among the French Canadians, 160
The fiftieth anniversary of Confederation, 161	.
National government, 161 Political patronage, 162 Extravagance of present administration, 163
The ex-Minister of Militia, 164 National service, 170 Westmorland county and war profits, 171 Extension of term of Parliament, 172 The Dorchester election, 173 Alleged statement of Mr. Blondin, 173 Budget, 1307
Speech of Sir Sam Hughes, 1307 Winning of the war, 1310 Charges of extravagance against the Government, 1310 High cost of living, 1313 Revenue and expenditure, 1314 Taxation proposals, 1315 Intercolonial railway, operation of, 1316 Canadian Government Railways Construction and betterment, 3387 Intercolonial
Grand Narrows bridge, 2321 Management and operation, 773 Milford ballast pit, 2320 Peniac bridge, 2320
Government Railways Act Amendment, 4363
Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5143
Cape Bald breakwater. 3873 Cost of living, 2005
Customs duties payable by provincial governments, 2135 Dorchester county election, 173 Fisheries officers, 2164
Food products, price and control of, 1313 Government Railways Act Amendment, 4363
Indians, 1892 .
Inland Revenue Department estimates, 3843	,
I-abour problems, 1173 Migratory birds, 3658 Military Service, 3075 Moncton armoury site, 4787 National service, 170
National Transcontinental Railway, removal of rails, 2225 Patriotic Fund, 3077 Pensions, 6031
Copp, Mr. A. B.-Con
Proportional representation, 917 Railway Act, The, 3442 Sackville wharves, 3878 Soldiers, votes for. 1401, 4703 Taxation, 1315
Telegraph and telephone lines, 5382 War-time Elections Bill, 5610 Wilfrid C„ boat, 4062 Cost of living
See O'Connor, Mr. W. F., K.Q., also Cold storage
Council of Indian Tribes of Canada Incorporation Bill, lr., 3902 Courcelette, steamer, 1377 Court, Pte. Harry Ivan, request for discharge of, 3295
Courts, See Justice
Coutts quarantine reserve, 590
Cox, John, position of, 1472
Criminal Code Amendment Bills
Alien enemies prohibited from voting (No.
59, Mr. Currie), lr., 1862 Capital punishment, abolition of, (No. 3, Mr. Bjckerdike), lr., 46; 2r„ moved, 325, negatived, 1028-1036 See Capital Punishment Contract prices, prohibition of, (No. 21, Mr. Knowles), lr., 386;	2r„ moved,
1617; debate adjourned, 1627 Insurance (No. 54, Mr. Doherty), lr„ 1773;
2r„ 2104; com., 4388; 3r„ 4395 Jurors, (No. 97, Mr. Doherty), lr., 2567;
2r„ 4293; com., 4318; 3r„ 4383. Six months' hoist, moved by Mr. Lemieux, negatived, 4307
Non-support; foster parents; bawdy houses; insolvent traders; constables' fees, (No. 124, Mr. Doherty), lr., 4291;
2r., 4463; com., 4463; 3r„ 4466 Racing meets, limitation of, (No. 2, Mr. [DOT] Wilcox), lr., 8; 2r., 313-324
Cromwell, Mr. F. R. (Compton)
Live stock purchases,* 2279 Railway Act, The, 3604 Cross point wharf, 988, 1228, 1571 Crothers, Hon. T. W. (Minister of Labour) Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 831 Soldiers, voting of, 4702 Assistant Deputy Minister of Labour, abolition of office of, 686 Budget, 1267
The extravagant waste of time in the House, 1267
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Administration of Labour Department, 1269
The labour situation, 1270 The coal situation, 1275 Food prices, 1273 Coal
Questionnaire concerning, 1996	.
, Sale, regulation of, 1275 - Western ..mining of, 159, 614, 1266, 1372, 1616, 2295, 2570, 2653, 2776 Food
Control of sales and prices, 1273, 1989, 2083
Flour, price of, 1043 High cost Of living, 695 Industrial Dicputes Investigation Act, 1112, 1168, 1270
Labour Department
Administration of, 1269 Estimates, 68G, 1112, 1166, 1989, 3652 Landry, Mr. Justice, findings of, 5248 Le Canada, correction of statement in, 2571
Military Service, 2483 Referendum, 2487
O'Connor, Mr. W. F., K.C., inquiry and report by, 3652, 3925 Strikes, prevention of, 1270 Technical education, 1236 Thetford mines labour trouble, 1118 War-time Elections Bill, 5867 Yukon, cost of living in, 2199, 2481, 2525
Cruise, Mr. Robert (Dauphin)
Budget, 1432 Taxation of profits, 1432 Government expenditure, 1434 Free wheat, 1435 Proposed Highways Bill, 1435 Manitoba boundaries extension, 1435 Campbell, Duncan J., 758 Chabot, Lt.-Col., 988 Free wheat, 1435
Glen, Col. Joseph, payments to, 1377 Railway Act, The, 3520, 3550 Railway transportation for members of Parliament, 3520 Smith's Falls postmaster, 1570 Taxation of business profits, 1432
Cunningham, Frances Henry, payments to, 1125
Currie, Mr. John A. (North Simcoe)
Aliens, 3810, 3812
Austro-Germans in western provinces, 1265
Bill to prohibit voting by alien enemies, 18*62
Currie, Mr. J. A,-Con.
Army
Recruiting, 3372 Officers, military pay of, 1676 See, under this head, Soldiers Army and Navy veterans, 5912 Civil Service appointment, 2019 Coal, 2001
Companies, incorporation of, 5926, 5928 Criminal Code amendments, Jurors, 4299 Dominion Lands Act Amendment, 3801, 3805-3817
France, trade relations with, 2310, 2316 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5498, 5905 Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company Branch Lines Company, 1375 Imperial Preference, 1584 Loans to farmers, 1965 Martell, Lt. L. A., 5914 Military Service Classes, 3293, 3356
Exemptions, 3221, 3228, 3279, 3304, 3367 General provisions, 3243, 3252 Great Britain, in, 2908 Regulations, 3316
Reinforcements, need of, 2904, 2915 Selective draft, 2916 O'Connor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3752 Packages, marking of-inspection and sale,

Parliament, printing of, 5949, 5950
Pensions, 6008
Railway Act, The, 3548
Rifles, importations of, 1125
Rural mall carriers, 3643
Shipbuilding, 1584, 5449
Soldiers,
Parcels for, 3644 Returned, 1586 Votes for, 4775, 4832 Widow's of, 3805 Stpyner public building, 5412 Taxation, proposals of the Government, 2912
Telegraphs and telephones, 3548 War
Canada's part in the, 2906 Prosecution of, 1576 War-time Elections Bill, 5762, 5845 . Currie, Col. J. A., M.P., military position and pay of, 595
Currie, General, despatch from, 4510 Customs
Bonded goods, shipments of, 1854 Department
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Dismissals, 1844
Estimates, 643, 1843, 1881, 5098, 5777 Motor boats in use by, 3759 Motor car of, 1476 North Sydney officials, 1852 Staff and salaries, 643, 1843, 5908, 5777 See also Civil Service Drawbacks, payments of, 1818 Forms, printing of in French and English, 3133, 3134
Minister of, private car for, 5082 Preventive service, 1881 Revenue cruisers, 1881 Unclaimed goods, disposal of, 3743
Customs Act Amendment Bill
Duties payable on Crown's goods. Res., 1978. lr., 1985. 2r., 2119. Com., 2121. Rep., 2136.	3r., 2137
Customs Tariff,
Alcohol, proposed free admission for hospital use, 5103 Apples, 1472, 1615 Bags and sacks, 1867 Beans for seed, 671 Bran and middlings, 1867 British preference, proposed increase, 1776 .Crown, goods of the, dutiable. See Customs Act Amendment Bill Farm implements, 1686, 1708 Fertilizer, 1709
Food, proposed additions to the free list, 1776-1790	*
Gasolene, 1675 Hospital supplies, 5103 Imperial Munitions Board imports, 1978 Provincial governments, duties payable by, See Customs Act Amendment Bills
Dagneau, John F., position of, 1471 Dairying. See Agriculture Dalhousie, N.B., militia buildings, 454 Danis, Joseph Maximilian, employment of, 2618
Davidson, Mr. Avard L. (Annapolis)
Army, soldiers, voting of, 4709, 4712, 4772 Carroll, Lieut. W. F., M.P., 6066 Douglas, Captain J. M., M.P., 6066 Ellis, Captain J. F., M.P.P., 6066 Neely, Captain D. B., M.P., 6066 Nova Scotia public works, 5320 Ralston, Major J. L., M.P.P., 6067 Schaffner, Mr. L. P., dismissal of, 441 Taxation, income, 4136 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5376 War-time Elections Bill, 5733, 5737
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Payments to, 898 Report of, 249, 524
Dav ies Company. See Food: Investigation Dawson post office, 4952, 5313 Daylight Saving Bill, lr., 2156; 2r., 2945, 3677; com., progress reported, 3687 Dean, Lieutenant R. I., position of, 5703 Decoders. See Censors
" Defeat or Victory," book, question as to prohibition of, 1473
Defence of Canada. See Militia and Defence Delisle, Mr. Michel S. (Portneuf)
Chicoutimi, pure bred animals at, 4152 Desertions from army, 338 Dillon, Mr. G. A., 4061 Dorchester County Railway, 5361 Fiset, Theophile, 1959 Gazelle, Noel, enlistment of, 337 Grenier, Mr. Armand, 3757 Lacasse, Mr. Isidore, 5272 Lewis, Mr. J. H., 2944 Military Service Bill, 3064 Transcontinental railway, Portneuf claims, 1571
157th Battalion, 5272
Demers, Mr. M. Joseph (St. John and Iberville)	,
Auditor General's report, 1469 Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 5078
Military Service Bill, 2561
Authority of Parliament, 2561 Motives of the Government, 2563 Referendum proposals, 2567 Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees (Mr. J. H. Rainville)
Address to Mr. Viviani, 1361
Election of, 334
Rulings and statements of
Bills-Sections allowed to stand not discussable, 4752
Censored publications, quotations in Parliament from, 5493 Irrelevancy, 2362, 2374, 5235, 5237 Money vote, how amendable, 521 Ways and means, second amendment to motion for, 1319
Descarries, Mr. Joseph A. (Jacques Cartier) Address in reply to the Governor General's speech, 12
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Customs, Crown's goods, 1983, 2119 Davidson Commission report, 524 Exchequer Court expenses, 1811 Government Railways Act amendment, 4368 Interest Act Amendment Bill, 2569, 3401 Judges
Appointment of, 1807
Salaries. See Judges Act Amendment Bill
Saskatchewan and Ontario, 1973 Yukon, 5896
Judges Act amendment, 2137, 5954, 6062 Justice Department, estimates, 1805, 5896, 6033
Kelly, Thomas, 1813, 4926, 5794 McLeod-Tellier Commission, 2357, 4291 Military service, 3016
Appeals and appeal tribunals, 3184, 3301 Authority of Parliament, 3031 Burden of proof, 3320 Classes, division into, 3353, 3359 Contraventions of Act, 3326, 3351 Enforcement, 3264
Exceptions and exemptions, 3303, 3307, 3568
Referendum proposals, 3028 Tribunals, 3153, 3168, 3296, 4193, 5881 Military Voters' Bill, 4406, 4688, 4742, 4792, 4874, 4889, 5956
Pelagic Sealing Treaty, claims under, 5977 Penitentiaries
Kelly, Thomas, treatment of, 1813, 4926, 5794
Officials' salaries, 6039 Prisoners, proposed enlistment of, 1013, 1814
Pensions, 6039
Post Office Department, estimates, 2352, 2360, 3634, 6051 Prices, contract fixing of, 1624 Provincial legislatures, powers of, 1808 Provincial prohibitory legislation, Bill in aid of, 4192, 4395, 5514 Woman suffrage, 1491
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Dominion Canners Company, 1105, 1289 Dominion Day; fiftieth anniversary. See Confederation
Dominion Lands Act Amendment Bills
General (No. 107, Mr. Roche), lr., 2832. 2r„ 3793. Com., 3793
Patents (No. 12, Mr. McCraney), lr., 159. Withdrawn, 1157 Dominion Lands and Parks
Animals in, 1359 Estimates, 1344, 4917 Forest reserves, 1349 Officials, 1675 See Parks
Dominions, overseas, constitutional relations of, 1528, 1531
Dominions Royal Commission, 599, 2338 Donaldson, Mr. Samuel J. (Prince Albert) Army camps, sale of liquor in, 816 Dorchester county election, 92. Ill, 120, 146, 173, 208, 255, 293 Dorchester County Railway, 5361 Dorchester, N.B.
Penitentiary. See Penitentiaries Wharf, 3874
Douglas, Mr. James M. (Strathcona)
Apples, duty on, 1472, 1715
Army, forestry battalions, 3950
Dominion Lands Act amendment, 3805
Flour, price of, 5211
Gasolene, duty on, 1675
Grain
Elevators, 3705 Wheat, fixing of price of, 3705 Military Service Bill, 3051 *
Patriotic Fund allowances, 3952 Tariff revision, 1714 War-time Elections Bill, 5604 Douglas, Captain J, M., position of, 6066 Drake, steamship, duty on cargo of, 4245 Dredging. See Public Works Dropped order. See Parliamentary Procedure Drummond, T. J., steamer, 669, 4925, 4939 Dry Dock Subsidies Act Amendment Bill. Res., 4455. lr., 5771.	2r„ 5887. Com.,
5915. 3r„ 5918
Dubreuil, Mr., dismissal of, 3635 Dussault, Mr. Albert, employment of, 457 Dynamite outrages Arrests in Montreal, 5423 Atholstan, Lord, 5423 Bigras, GedSon, 5360 East Bay wharves, 5315 Eaton, Ernest, enlistment of, 3419 Volume I:	1-1124.
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Edmonton, enlistments, 336. 3373 Edmonton, Dunvegan and British Columbia Railway, subsidy to, 4925 Edson, Alta., population of, 1816 Edward VII, monument to His late Majesty, 3897
Edwards, Mr. J. W. (Frontenac)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 204 The war, 204
Political patronage in purchase of war supplies, 205
Patriotic Fund separation allowances, 207
Military appointments, 207 Maritime Province elections, 207 The Dorchester compaign, 208 Recruiting in Quebec. 213, 221 Statements of the leader of the Opposition, 218, 220
Naval policy of Liberal party, 219 Extension of term of Parliament-votes for soldiers, 223 National 'ideals, 224 Bran and shorts, duty on, 1875 Budget, 1209
The record of the Liberal party, 1209 Canada's trade, 1211 Free wheat, 1212 Vessels for carrying flour, 1213 Free trade, 1214 Scarcity of food, 1216 Improvement of highways, 1217 The leader of the Opposition, 1219 Proposed general election, 1220 Cattle, British embargo on, 922 Censorship, 5943 Dorchester county election, 208 Experimental farms, 2055 Food, scarcity of, 712, 1216 Free wheat, 1212 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5500 High cost of living, 712, 1216 Highways, improvement of, 1217 Home defence recruiting officers, 3134 Horses, glandered, 2056 House of Commons stenographers, 5789 Immigration agents, ,4914, 5361 Judges' salaries, 5799. See, under this head. Supreme Court Lavergne, Mr. Armand, 2619 Mail clerks, French-speaking, 5272 Military districts Nos. 3 and 10, 455 Military service, 2715, 3221 National service cards, 667, 713
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Parcel post service, 3634 Parliamentary secretaryships, 4211, 4214 Party records, 2373 Patriotic Fund, 207, 595, 3951 Penitentiaries Portsmouth, 3418 Report of inspector of, 3419 Salaries of officials, 6033 Pensions, 6012
Post office signs-language in which written, 5999 Potatoes, 5987 Pugsley, Lieut. J. A., 4895 Quebec and military service, 2719-2728 Recruiting, 213, 221, 569 Rural mail routes, 1959 Shipbuilding, 1213, 1670 Soldiers
Pay and pensions of, 3216, 6012 Voting of, 223, 4807, 4895 Storage elevators, 2099
Supreme Court-allowance to Chief Justice, 6049
Taxation of wealth, 2728	'
Unclaimed bank balances, 1010 Votes for soldiers, 223, 4807 War-time Elections Bill. 5570, 5678, 5742, 5873
Eggs, imports and exports of, 1573 Elaine, steamer, 1379 Elevators. See Grain.
Ellis, Captain J. F., position and pay of, 6066 Elrose, Sask., mail service, 899.
Elliot, Mr. George A. (North Middlesex) Soldiers, votes for, 1387 Emigration
Restrictions on Canadians of military age, 1726, 1775
United States, to, 987, 3285 See also Immigration Esquimalt dock yards, 5915 Estevan, Canadian Government Steamship, purchase of provisions for, 4923 Estimates. See titles of Departments and subjects
Ethier, Mr. J. A. C. (Two Mountains) Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5019, 5112
Food requirements, 2869 Military service, 2863 Labour, attitude of, 2871 St. Jerome post office, 899 War-time Elections Bill, 5826 Exchequer Court. See Supreme Court, etc., Bill
Exchequer Court Act Amendment Bill. lr.,
1422.
Excise. See Inland Revenue Expeditionary force. See Army Experimental farms. See Agriculture.
Faguy, Gaudiose. dismissal of, 2284 False Creek dredging, 900, 1126 Farm labour. See Labour Farmers
' Employment of soldiers by, 1677 Loans to. See Bank Act Amendment Bill Western, relief for. See Grain Farmers Bank
Depositors, proposed reimbursement of, 4508
Shareholders of, 301
Farming industry, development of, 1776, 1786.
See also Agriculture Fiddlers See "The Fiddlers"
Finance
Debt of Canada, 347 Department
Estimates, 578, 1790, 6289 Staff and salaries, 1796, 5289 Gold, handling of, 1796
Income and expenditure of Canada, 274, 718, 723, 745, 846
Interest. See Interest Act Amendment Bill Loans
Dominion, $100,000,000
Cost of issue, 342, 435, 4957 Proceeds from, 4416, 4621. See Public Service Loan Bill
Farmers, to. See Bank Act Amendment Bills .
Grand Trunk Pacific Railway, 5292 Quebec harbour. See that title Fiset, Theophile, payments to, 1959 Fish and fisheries
Advisory Board, 2151 Bait, 2036
Bounties to fishermen, 457 Canneries
Licenses for operation of, 3399 See Meat and Canned Foods Act Amendment Bill and Fisheries Act Amendment Bill
Committee on supply of, 3400 Department
Appointments, 2149 Estimates, 2149 Development of industry, 2037 Dogfish, 2176 Exhibit at Toronto, 2033 Export of, 454 Herring, 2036


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Inspection, 2035 Inspector Fisher, 2170 Investigation of problems, 5288 Laws, violation of, 2389 Licenses, 2051, 2182 Lobsters, 2049, 2117, 2154, 4171, 5425 Marketing, 2037, 2042 Ministry of, proposed, 2026 Officers, 2151, 2157, 2161 Oysters, 2174 Patrol service, 2183 -Protection service, 4163, 41C6, 4170 Salt for curing purposes, 1027, 1319, 1373, 2044, 2290, 3556 Sardine fisheries, 4168 Telephone method of fishing, 2176 Transportation, 2031, 2042, 3392, 3556, 4933 Trawlers, steam, 300 Whitefish, 2159
Fisheries Act Amendment Bill. Res, 2116. lr„ 2118.	2r., 2149. Ref, to Com., 2149.
Com., 3399. 3r„ 3400
Fisher, Mr. John H. (Brant)
Recruiting in Paris and Burford, 601 Soldiers, votes for, 1386
Flags on public buildings, 4146 Flavelle, Sir Joseph, letter from, 2956, 4010 See O'Connor and Food Flax industry, 4683 Flour. See Grain Food
Adulteration of, 2387 Bacon and lard, 3915, 5274 Beef, exports and imports of, 1574 Butter. See Agriculture Cheese. See Agriculture Control of, 108, 695, 1304, 1313, 1427, 1989, 2076, 2471, 2509, 2580, 3045, 3744 Australia, in, 963 Prices, 3918 Sugar, 1992 Controller
Appointment, 2433
Office and assistants, 3502, 4413, 4414, 4244
Powers of, 3943 See also Food Products Eggs, exports and imports of, 1573 Fish, committee on supply of, 3400 Flour, 700, 1868, 5207
Prices and profits, 1039, 1088, 5085
Yukon, in, 2237
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Appointments, 693, 2017
Employment of men in higher offices,
Promotions, 2017 Companies Act amendment, 5922 Customs disposal of unclaimed goods, 3743 Defence of Canada, 359 Fisheries protection service, 4170 Food control, 2580 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5501 Government Railways
Cars, purchase of. 758, 1376 Promotion of employees, 770 Government Railways Act amendments, 4344, 4367
See under this head, Intercolonial; Transcontinental
Grain elevator facilities, 4188 Grain for breweries and distilleries, 1183 Grand Trunk Pacific Railway, loan to, 5299
Indians, British Columbia, 2340 Intercolonial, transfor of, alleged arrangements for,-denial, 804, 869 Judges, appointment of, 1807 McNab, Colin C., 578 Military buildings, inspector of, 1039 Military service Classes, 3276
Contraventions of Act, 3225, 3349, 3580 Conscription of wealth, 2576 Enforcement, 3268 Exceptions, 3270, 3564, 3591 Exemptions, 3212, 3276 Industrial requirements, 2579 Insurance of war risks, 3557 Persons liable for service, 3128 Policies of leader of the Opposition, 2572 Quebec's attitude, 2572 Recruiting, 2573 Referendum proposal, 2582 Tribunals, 3160
Mines, Minister of, proposed, 2007 National Serivce Board Expenses, 3676 Officers, 376 Noxious weeds, 2068
Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4431 Packages, marking-inspection and sale, 4068
Parliament buildings, construction of, 4182 Parliament, extension of term of, 3458 Pensions, 6024
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Recruiting, 375, 568, 2573 Ross rifle, 482
Royal Military College, 5310 Senate, appointments to, 928 Soldiers
Cessation of working pay, 457 Returned, appointment of to government positions, 1850, 1858, 6054 Voting of, 4793, 4834 Taxation
Income, 1631, 3771, 4073, 4104 Land, 1629 Wealth, 2576, 3461 Telegraphs and telephones, 3545 Telephone lines, government, 5364, 5382 Trade and Commerce Commissioners, 2327 Transcontinental railway operations, 1573 War charities, 378, 5485 War, prosecution of the, 2320 War-time Elections Bill, 5589, 5674, 5686, 5693, 5729-5771, 5856 Wheat, free, 642 Grain and grain products
Bran and middlings, 1867, 4468 Breweries and distilleries for, il76 Commission, Chairman of, 3711 Congestion of in the West, 340 Diseases-rust, 2063 Elevators, 986, 2099, 2334 Claims of employees, 386 Facilities, 4189 Operation of, 3705
Flour, sales of between Canada and United States, 5273 Freight rates on, 2210 Grading of, 1265 Middlings, duty on, 1867 Rust, 2063 Seed
Eastern Canada for, 1150, 1188 Payment for advances, 1126 Purchase of, 4677, 4916, 4924 Supervisors. See Board of Grain Supervisors
Transportation of, 1682, 3396, 3412, 3712 Wheat
Commission, 1381 Exportation of prohibited, 3882 Free, 729, 747-756, 850, 864-884, 889 Prices, fixing of, 3688, 4687, 4887, 4926, 5206, 5218, 6000


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Surplus, purchases of, 1126 Telegram from Non-Partisan League, on, 4512, 4564, 4661 United States tariff on, 1342 Grande Prairie immigration hall, 1575, 1817 Grand Trunk Pacific Branch Lines Company Bills
1.	Bill No. 33 (Mr. Currie) lr„ 585; withdrawn, 667
2.	Bill No. 41 (Mr. Currie) lr., 843; 2r., 896;
com., 1375; 3r., 1445 Grand Trunk Pacific Railway
Financial statements respecting, 4058 Loan to. 5292
Removal of rails from, 5293 Report of Drayton-Acworth Commission, 4011
Gravel, Lieut. Gedeon, 1674 Gravelle, Mr. Oscar, position of, 1226 Great Britain, military service in, 2908 See Army Act
Great War Veterans Association, 1574
Green, Mr. Robert F. (Kootenay)
Railway Act, The, 3514, 3542, 3545 Telegraphs, provisions governing, 3542 Grenier, Mr. Armand, employment of, 3757 Grey, Ambrose, employment of, 1818 Grilse, H.M.C.S., 4563 Grosse Isle quarantine station, 5306 Guthrie, Mr. Hugh (South Wellington)
Bags and sacks, duty on, 1873 Bran and shorts, 1874
Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5035
Coalition government, 2463 Enlistment, voluntary, 2454 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5502, 5903 Grain for breweries and distilleries, 1179 Military service, 2452
Personal, attitude respecting, 3721 Tribunals, 3300 Soldiers
Returned, care of, 470 Voting of, 4410 Tariff revision, 1780 Taxation
Income, 1783, 2453 Wealth, 2453
War-time Elections Bill, 5598 Windsor immigration officer, 2357 Guysborough public building, 5914 Gwatkin, General, administration of military affairs by, 4419
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Halifax & Eastern Railway, contractors, 304 Hansard. See House of Commons Hants county apple inspectors, 1380 Harbours. See Public works Hardy, Lieut. M. R„ employment of, 4509 Harris, Capt. R. V;, position of, 5422
Hay, inspection and grading of, 3402
See Inspection and Sale Act Amendment Bill
Hazen, Hon. J. D. (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)
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French front, visit to, 1563 Pensions, 1610 Wet canteens, 1561
British Admiralty, recruiting for, 4163 Coal, transportation of, 4791 Dry docks, 5887 Fish and fisheries Advisory Board, 2151 Canneries, 2117, 3399 Department Appointments, 2149 Estimates, 2149 Dogfish, 2176 Exhibit at Toronto, 2033 Herring, 2036 Inspection, 2035 Lobsters, packing of. 5426 Ministry of, proposed, 2030 Officers, 2163 Transportation, 2031 White fish, 2159
Fisher, Mr. Ward, appointment of, 2170 Fisheries Act Amendment Bill, 3399 Gwatkin, General, 4426 Imperial War Conference, 1556 Lake of the Woods water level, 4178 Live stock, shipments, inspection of, 1842 Marine Department, estimates, 1815, 1836, 1881, 1912
Meat and Canned Foods Act, 2114, 3400 Minto, steamer, food supplies for, 2175 Naval Service Department, estimates, 4157 Ocean Telegraph Act, 2024, 2108 Overseas Military Forces, Minister of. 4426 Public Works Department estimates, 5890 Pugsley, Mr, statement of, 5274 Quebec harbour advances, 435, 577 Royal Naval College; 4163 St John harbour, 4187, 5892 Shipbuilding, 1557, 1665, 1912, 4164
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Hardy, Lieut. M. R., 4509 Intoxicating liquor, 4396, 4404
Carriage on government railways, 591 James Simmonds Co., 5122 Labourers from the United States, 1193 Machine guns, 452
Magdalen islands steamship service, 2302 McQueen, Lieut. W. A., 4508 Military District No. 6, 5237 Military service, 2971 Referendum, 2977 Moffatt, Lieut. R. J., 5361 Potatoes
Marketing of, 5989	.
Powdery scab, 2269 Prince Edward Island Medical officers, 4563 Patriotism of men of the province, 2974 Railway, widening of, 3902, 3945 Steamship service, 660, 3954 Princess Louise Fusiliers officers, 5271 Quebec, recruiting in, 2972, 2977 Ross rifle, 235 Shipbuilding, 1335 Souris breakwater, 3871 Steamship services, 2326 United Mine Workmen of Nova Scotia, 802 War-time Elections Bill, 5664 Hughes, Sir Sam (Victoria, Ont.)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 253	[DOT]
Appreciation of British military assistance, 253
Personal attitude and policy, 254, 271 Col. Armand Lavergne, 256 Dorchester campaign, 255 Canadian troops in the South African war, 256
Troubles in administration of military affairs, 256
Status of Canadian forces, 259 Military equipment, 262 ' Appointment of General Steele, 264
Method of purchasing war supplies, 265 Disposition and command of Canadian forces, 268 Recruiting, 269
Canadian industries and the war, 270 Army
Badges of identification, 5953 Canteens, 808
Enlistment, voluntary, 2434-2449 Medical service, 537, 4199, 4466 Recruiting
Correspondence with Prime Minister, 3090
Officers in Quebec, 3135 Rejected men, 3099
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Irish, Mr. Mark, statements of, 2707	-
Ler.card, General, 368
Maclean, Mr. A. K., statements of, 2777
Military equipment, 262
Military service, 3135
Authority of Canada, 2435 Classes, calling out by, 3137 Compulsion, advantages of, 2438 Correspondence with Prime Minister, 2434, 2446, 2449 Labour, requirements of, 2441 Recruiting, alleged retarding of, 2442 Officers
Reversion in rank-pay in such cases, 5423	'
Unemployed, 573
Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4198, 4207, 4419, 4422, '4444 Administrative staff, 4956, 4959 Pay and Records Office, 3106 Recruiting, 269, 366, 379
Correspondence with Prime Minister, 2446
Lessening of, reasons for, 2442 Resignation of, 602 Ross rifle, 416, 480-493, 2451 Steele, General, appointment of, 264 Von Donop, Stanley, 523 War supplies, method of purchasing, 265 Hughes, Brig.-Gen. W. S., position of, 5361 Hyde, Mr. J. W., position of, 301 Hydrographic surveys, 4173 Immigration Agents, 1737, 1754
Clergymen and priests employed as, 5361 Montreal, 5122 Quebec, 5122
United States, in, 4914, 5361 Chinese. See Chinese Immigration Act Amendment Bill
Department, estimates, staff and salaries, 4914
Deportation and rejection, 803 Figures, 803
Forms, printing of in French, 899, 3133, 3134
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Mr. W. H. Bennett
Bill No 45; lr., 1037; withdrawn, 1157 Bill No. 50; lr., 1568
Intercolonial Railway. Sec Canadian Government Railways
Interest Act Amendment Bill, lr., 2569. 2r., 3401. Com., 3401.	3r., 3402
Interest on judgments, 900 Interior Department
Appointments to under section 21, 1351 Calgary offices, 668 Estimates, 652, 1344, 1735, 4916 Expenditure, 1344
French-speaking employees of, 2340 Orders in Council relating to, 6000 Political activity of employees, 2349 Internal Economy Commission, 45 International Fisheries Commission, 892 International surveys, 1735 Interprovincial bridges, 3888 Intoxicating liquors
Army camps, in See Army Manufacture and sale of, 454 Prohibition of, 2008
See also "The Fiddlers" and Canada Temperance Act
Prosecutions for sale of, 1575 Sale of, 3818
See also Provincial Prohibitory Legislation
Inverness harbour improvements, 5325 Irish-Canadian Rangers. See Army Jack, Mr. E. Bryden, position of, 4508 Jaffray, Mr. J. P., position of, 4062 Jails. See Penitentiaries Jameson, Mr. Clarence (Digby)
Fisheries, proposed ministry of, 2026 Military Service Bill, 2969 Soldier Settlement Board, 3784 Technical education, 1243 James Simmonds Co., The, purchase of goods from, 5122
Jamesville breakwater, 5328 Jenkins, Lieut.-Col. S. R., duties and pay of, 5422
Joffre, General, 613
Judges Act Amendment Bill. Res., 1973. lr., 1978.	2r., Com., 2136.	3r„ 2137. Sen.
amdt., 5954, 6062 Judgments, interest on, 900
See Interest Act Amendment Bill Justice
Administration of, 1805
Baugh, Edward Levi, case of, 1814
Justice-Con.
Department, estimates, 1805, 5097. 5794, 5896, 6033, 6049 i Exchequer Court Cases, 335 Expenses, 1811 Publications, 5804 Judges
Appointment of, 1806	v
Provincial commissions, on, 593 Salaries, 1973, 5798, 5954 Saskatchewan and Ontario, 1973 Yukon, 5896
Minister of, payments to, 898, 1225 Provincial legislatures, powers of, 1807, 1811 Supreme Court, Chief Justice of, special allowance to, 6049 Kay, Mr. William F. (Missisquoi)
Ballots for overseas forces, 452 Food Controller's office,employees, 3502 Foster, Mr. A. De Witt, 303 Fuel Controller, staff of, 4245 Oleomargarine, prohibition of, 304 Parliament buildings, marble for, 2833 War profits and income tax-cost of collection, 4686
Kelly, Thomas, treatment of in penitentiary, and release of, 896, 4926, 5273, 5794 Kemp, Sir Edward (Minister of Militia and Defence)
Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 815 Discharges, 3096 Enlistments Total, 3098 Voluntary, 3381 Forestry battalions, 3950 Medical service, 3967 Officers
Pay of, 1628
Retention of on leave, 5902 Salutes to, 6425 Surplus, 3103
Pay and Records office staff, 3104
Rejected men, 3099
Soldiers
Behaviour of, 5235 Personal requests concerning, 4203 Separation allowances, 4203 Civil servants, enlisted, pay and separation allowances to, 663 Expeditionary Force, disposition of, 2356 Home defence campaign, 2628 Irish-Canadian Rangers, 195 Lens, valour of Canadian soldiers at, 5195 Military service, 2620, 3239 Classes, 3357
Discharges from army, 3096 Exceptions, 3270
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Canadians in Imperial forces, to, 4688 Prisoners of war, 666 Money orders and parcels for, 714 Recruiting, 562
British subjects in the United States, 2482
Quebec, in, 2626
War affairs, Government, administration of, 3381
War Purchasing Commission, purchases by, 341
156th Battalion, 523
Kentville armoury
Caretaker, 4509 Militia stores, 4510
Knight, Mr. N. H. R., position of, 4952
Knowles, Mr. William E. (Moosejaw)
Army
Officers' wives, passports for, 3996 Soldiers, votes for, 4690, 4806, 4877 Budget, 887
Free wheat, 889
Canada Grain Act, proposed amendment, 2954
Canadian Government railways Private cars, 4938
Intercolonial, appointment of officials, 659 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4637, 5022
Civil Service salaries, 2946 Coal, shortage of, 2294 Western supply of, 4621 Coalition government, 2901 Daylight saving, 3686 Farming industry, development of, 1787 Flax industry, 4683 Flour prices, 5214 Food control, 2002 Free wheat, 889 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5498 Immigration
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Interior Department employees, political activities of, 2350
Legislators, free transportation for, 4935 Military service, 2895
Date of second reading of Bill, 2322 Referendum, 2900 Senate amendments, 4665 Mining industry, 657 Moosejaw, enlistments at, 5122 Moosejaw News, patronage, 2708 Mounted Police, Royal Northwest, 4670 Postal clerks, salaries, 2708 Prices, contract fixing of, 385, 1617 Public works expenditure, 5333 Racing meets, limitation of, 324 Renault, Raoul, appointment of, 2371 Seed grain, 4678 Collections, 2351
Shipbuilding, British Columbia, 4940 Tariff revision, 1785 Taxation, income, 4075, 4105 Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2614
Toronto Telegram, statement of, 5085 Trade and Commerce Department, estimates, 2338 War charities, 5493
War-time Elections Bill, 5637, 5658, 5721, 5810, 5818, 6083
Kyte, Mr. George W. (Richmond)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 195
Appointment of Senators for Nova Scotia, 196
The high cost of living-war profits, 197 National Service Commission, 200 Resignation of ex-Minister of Militia, 201 Canadian' Army Medical Service, 201 Separation allowances, 203 Political patronage in military affairs, 203 Army
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Fraser river channel improvements, 1126 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5904 Heals station rifle range, 1573 Imperial Munitions Board Labour, 1985 ^ Inland Revenue Department officials, 2377 Intercolonial railway - improvement of grades, 456 Judges' salaries, 1974 Leblanc, Dr. B. A., 2283, 4416 Lewis machine guns, 590 Louisburg
Censors, 4008 Pilot Commissioners, 3677 Wireless station, 5122 Macdonald, Dr. J A., 2283 Mail contracts, 3636, 3639 Maritime Provinces military affairs, 5228 Military District No. 6, 5228 Military Hospitals Commission, 4243 Military service Exemptions, 5271 Tribunals, 3158
Militia Department estimates, 5221 National Service Commission, 200 ' Naval Service officers at Halifax, 6000 Neilly, Dr„ position of, 2707 Nova Scotia public works, 5315, 5324 O'Connor report, 4010
Ogilvie Flour Mills Company, Limlteu, 1818, 2389, 3677
Ottawa Journal-Press-correction of statement, 3759
Pacific Dredging Company, 1126 Parliamentary secretaryships, 4211 Pensions, 6018
Point Tupper mail service, 3502 Pommery, Mr. Samuel, 4952 Port Malcolm wharf, 3866
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Recruiting, 2482
Returned soldiers, appointment of to gov-eernment positions, 6055 Richmond county medical officers, 3758 Ross rifle factory, taking over of by the Government, 663 Salt, shortage of, 3556 Shipbuilding, 5434 Steamship services, 2325 Sydney industrial sites, 3956 Taxation
Business profits, 965 Income, 4115, 5291 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5336 Turner, Mr. Harvey, 1469 Urquhart, Mr. Hector, 5367 Vancouver drill hall site, 456 War supplies
Munitions contracts, 5526 Purchase of, 4053 Waterford explosion, 5775 Women munitions workers, 4063 Yukon
Administrator, 5122 Commissioner, 3677
Labour
Attitude of on military service, 2426, 2488, 2451, 2604, 2663, 2795,' 2871, 2958, 3725, 3732
Australian labour troubles, 698 Bureaus, 118 Chinese labourers, 2139 Conditions on munition work, 2492 Department administration, 1269
Assistant Deputy Minister, abolition of office of, 686
Estimates, 686, 1112, 1166, 1989, 3652 Staff and salaries, 686 See also Mines and Minerals, Coal Fair wages and inspection officers, 3652 Farm labourers from the United States, 665, 1193, 1740, 1747, 3504, 4512 Government elevators, claims by employees, 386
Imperial Munitions Board, 1985 Industrial Disputes Investigation Act, 1112, 1166, 1270
Military service, attitude to See under this head Attitude Strikes. See Coal and Thetford Brantford moulders, 2322 Sorel strike, 1912, 1935 Yukon miners, 3086 Thetford mines. See that title


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Quebec's contribution of men, 3256 Recruiting, 2772 Quebec electoral lists, 6002 Senate Hansard, cost of, 1571 War-time Elections Bill, 5621, 5639, 5722, 5741, 5759, 5865
Laporte, Mr. Hormidas, payments to, 4510
Latchford, Qnt., plant and buildings, sale of, 5706
Laurentian, steamer, 4563
Laurier, Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid (Quebec, East) Address in reply to, the Governor General's Speech, 17
Canada's Governor General, 17 The war situation, 18 German peace proposals, 19 Our soldiers at the front, 20 Laxity of present administration, 20 Control of our military forces, 20 Equipment of Canadian troops, 23 The fiftieth Anniversary of Confederation, 24
Imperial War Conference, 24 Amqui-St. Leonard mail contract, 3903 Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 813 Control of, by Canada, 20 Discharges, 3111 Equipment, 23 Recruiting
Quebec, in, 2395 Retarding of, 3094 Rejected men, 3101 Soldiers, voting of, 2403, 3727 Army Act, regulations, 3111 Balfour, Rt. Hon. A. J., address to, 1772 Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 4216, 4625, 4635, 5128 Capital punishment, 622 Coalition government, 3727 Correspondence with Sir Robert Borden, 2690
Confederation, fiftieth anniversary of, 24 Connaught, the late Duchess of, 610 Daylight saving, 3681 Defence of Canada, 358 Fisheries protection sendee, 4166 Galt, Mr. Justice Report of, 2057
Rogers, Hon. Robert, criticism of, by, 599 Government Railways Act amendment, 4384 Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Branch Lines Company, 1375
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Business of the House, 1524 Morning sittings, 2619, 2775 Saturday sittings, 325, 2569 Wednesday sittings, 325 Clerk of the House, retirement of, 6070 Officials, appointments of, 586 Rights of House in dealing with taxation, 5479
Speaker's quarters, 5784 Imperial War Conference, 24 Adjournment of Parliament, 118 Visit of Prime Minister to, 1542 Insurance, 3848 Intoxicating liquor, 4397 Landry, Mr. Justice, report of, 4152, 5250 Mace, vote of thanks to donors of, 1469 McLeod-Tellier Commission, 2357, 5245 Members, deceased, tributes to, 4 Migratory birds, 3657 Military Service, 3111, 3254 Appeals, 3177 Board of Selection, 5084 Burden of Proof, 3319 Classes, 3132, 3140
Conscription, need of, considered, 2396 Contraventiqns of Act, 3324, 3337 Exceptions, 3559 Exemptions, 3207, 3362 Labour, attitude of, 3725 Men, available, 3724 Parliament, power of, 2392, 3723 Persons liable for service, 3116 Quebec enlistments, 2398 Referendum, 2403, 3721, 3728 Senate amendments, 4663 Tribunals, 3149, 3165, 3296, 3575, 5880 Votes for soldiers, 3727 Mounted Police, Royal Northwest, 4668 National Service Commission, 309 Newsprint paper, 757
Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4195 Parliament
Extension of term of, 2396, 3420, 3484 Printing of, 5950, 5952 Parliamentary secretaryships, 4195, 4206 Pelagic Sealing Treaty, claims under, 5972 Point of order-Hon. Robert Rogers' reference to Mr. Justice Galt, 599 Prisoners, proposed enlistment of, 1014 Quebec and Saguenay Railway purchase' and completion of, 303 Quebec harbour advances, 435 Railway Act, the, 606
Railway material, removal of to France, 310, 1372
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The Imperial War Conference, 148 The fiftieth anniversary of Confederation, 150
Alcohol, distilling of, 3743 Angers, Captain, dismissal of, 758 Anglo-French delegates, visit of to Canada, 669 Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 806, 840, 1226 Demobilization, plans for, 3118 Enlistment, 2463-2478 Recruiting in Quebec, 363, 3136 Recruits, urban and rural, 3135 Assistant Deputy Minister of Labour, suspension of, 690 Bell, steamer, 1377 Brindle, Mr. William, 3758 Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 4043, 4217, 4278, 4554, 4600-4619, 5046 5184
Cattle, British embargo on, 987 Civil Service insurance, 3503 Civil Service salaries, 583, 1804, 2241 Enlisted men, pay of, 2254 Coal
Confiscation of by railways, 584 Ottawa prices of, 1320 Cold storage, 2076 Courcelette, steamer, 1377 Criminal Code amendments. 4464 Jurors, 4306 Customs
Duties payable on Crown's goods, 2127 Silks, valuation of for customs, 1574 Customs and immigration forms, 3133, 3134 "Defeat or Victory," 1473 Dorchester county election, 146 Dynamite outrages in Montreal, 5423 Elevator men, pay of, 2946 Exhibitions, 2260
Farmers' Bank, shareholders of, 301 Fish, transportation of, 3556 Foodstuffs, control of, 2471 France, promotion of trade with, 597, 2307 French-Canadians in the United States, 4914
French-speaking employees, Department of Agriculture, 2264 [DOT]
Gaspe steamship service, 2299 Gerrie, Mr. Charles, 4245 High cost of living, 2055, 2077 Hudson Bay railway, 5090 Immigration Agents, 1760
Department, printing of forms in French, 899
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Indians-Caughnawaga hospital, 1S86 Inland Revenue Department Estimates, 3831 Officials, 3817 Montreal, at, 758
Insurance of war risks, 3557, 3589 Intercolonial railway, cars, shortage of, 1378
Intoxicating liquor Prohibition of, 4401 Sale of, 3819
Jack, Mr. E. Bryden, 4508 Kelly, Thomas, 4926, 5794 Labour bureaus, 118 Laval, steamer, 1470 Lessard, General, 363, 2055 Levis railway, station, 2208 Magdalen Islands Cable service, 5408 Steamship service, 2303 Mail matter, registration of, 663 Matane Harbour light, 1575 McWilliams, Mr., dismissal of, 2167 Military service
Burden of proof, 3318 Contraventions of Act, 3329 Enlistment - Canada compared with United States and France, 2463 Exceptions, 3560 Exemptions, 3131
Insurance of soldiers, 3557, 3589 '
Militia Act, provisions of, 2465 Persons liable to serve, 3117 Pledges of government, 2467 Quebec's position, 2473, 3137 Referendum, 2478 Regulations, 3316 Tribunals, 3158
Mining industry, development of, 4181 Mitchell, Private J. F., death of, 1377 Montreal postmaster, 523, 581 O'Connor, Mr. W. F„ report of, 3746 Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4202, 4420, 4442 Parcel post, 2075
Parliamentary secretaryships, 4202, 4207, 4212, 4420
Parliamentary sessions, expense of, 1262 Quebec harbour advances, 577 Improvements, 3879
Quebec, Montmorency and Charlevoix; Quebec and Saguenay, and Lotbiniere and Megantic Railways, 4848, 5454 Railway Act, The, 3514, 3716 Railway company, advance to, 2100
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Dominion Canners Company, 1289 Fish and fisheries
Development of industry, 2047 Lobsters, 2049, 2155, 5426 Free wheat, 1286
Government railways, branch lines, 2223 Military Service, 2984 Referendum, 2986 Recruiting, 380 Shipbuilding, 1929 Soldiers, voting of, 4778 Steamship service, 2311 Taxation
Business profits, 1645 Income, 4069
Lord's Day Observance Act
Suggested suspension of, 936 Lotbiniere and Megantic Railway Completion and operation of, 4948, 5452 Louisburg
Pilot Commissioners, 3677 Wireless station at, 5122 Louisville post office, 899 Lovett, James, dismissal of, 453, 759 Loyal Orange Order, 85, 91 Macdonald, Mr. E. M. (Pictou)
. Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 47
The fiftieth anniversary of Confederation, 47
Imperial War Conference, 47 The War, 48
The present Government and the war, 49 Extension of term of Parliament, 50 Canada's participation in wars of the Empire, 51 Recruiting, 51 Political patronage, 52, 55 Conscription, 54
Conditions in military hospitals, 54, 59 Administration of military affairs, 54 Government expenditures, 60 The winning of the war, 61 Aeroplane service, 805, 844 Army
Allowances, separation, 336,	383, 387,
Camps and canteens, 535, 820, 1266 Canteen system in England, 718 Conscription, 54, 893
Criticism of military affairs, duty of the Opposition, 571
Enlistment of Canadians in the United States, 3758 Hospital No. 8, 1674 Irish-Canadian Rangers, 195, 458
Macdonald, Mr. E. M.-Con.
Medical service, 527, 3962 Pensions, 845 Recruiting, 51, 360, 372 Advertising of, cost, 986 State of, 936 Unfit men, of, 697, 4006 United States, in, 3758, 3904 Soldiers
Farms, employment on, 1677 Medical treatment of, 3962 Voting of, 469.2, 4704, 4729, 4741, 4786, 4792, 4834, 4876, 4887 Army and Navy Veterans, 5911 Assistant Deputy Minister of Labour, suspension of, 688
Babtie, report, Dr. Bruce's reply to, 669 Bull, Mr. Perkins, 1130 Canadian Government Railways Cars, purchase of, 4928 Coal purchases, 664, 667, 3388 United States, in, 592 Employees Magazine, 452 Level crossing near Trenton, 304 Quebec and Saguenay, etc., 5460 Safety-first inspectors, 337 Steamers, purchase of, 669 See under this head Government Railways Amendment Act and Intercolonial Railway
Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 4030, 4283, 4544, 4606-4618, 4628-4632, 4864, 4996, 5124 Carson, Major General, 986 Coal, Western mining of, 159, 614 Criminal Code amendments, jurors, 4296, 4322
Customs duties on goods of the Crown 1979, 1982
Dominions Royal Commission, 2338 Emigration of Canadians, 987 Food control, 2001, 3744
Supplies for Great Britain, 2260 France, trade with, 2312 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5904 Government Railways Act amendment, 4339, 4366, 4386 Grain, 4679
Gwatkin, General, 4419 Heals station rifle range, 1675 High cost of living, 695, 3935 Hospitals, military, 54, 59 * Hudson Bay railway expenditure, 900, 5088
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Indians 2349	Railway employees, payment of salaries
Kitsilano, 1129
Industrial Disputes Investigation Act, 1123 Inland Revenue Department Estimates, 3825, 3827, 3833, 2842 Expenditure, 2380, 2384 Officials, 2360 Intercolonial Railway Cars, 2226
Employees, promotion of, 779 Operation of, 776 Judges' salaries, 5955 Kentville armoury Caretaker, 4509 Militia stores, 4510 Kitsilano Indian reserve, 1129 Loan ($100,000,000), 4416, 4621 Lobster fishing, 2155, 5425 Master mariners, 4416
Medically unfit persons, certificates to, 5423 Military bands, 4044 Military service, 2947
Board of Selection, 2954 Contraventions of Act, 3339 Exemptions, 2955 Labour, attitude of, 2958 Quebec, position of, 2959 Referendum, 2961
Minto, steamship-food supplies, 2179 Munitions contracts, 4928 New Glasgow-Mountville mail service, 1037 O'Connor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3935 Overseas Military Forces, Ministry of, 4417, 4442
Overseas Militia Department, non-combatant positions in, 4786 Parliament, extension of term of, 3478 Pelagic Sealing Treaty, claims under, 5958 Pensions, 6005-6033
Canadians in Imperial Forces, for. 4667 Pictou
Freight, handling of, at, 303 Marine and Fisheries agency, 304, 596, 1937
Rural mail routes, 900 Post Office Department, estimates, 2352 Prince Edward Island Car ferry, 2305 Freight for, 1037 Steamship service, 3389 Prisoners of war, 666
Provincial governments, duties payable by, 2119, 2129
Provincial legislatures, powers of, 1807 Public works expenditure, 1038 Railway Act, The, 3426, 3439, 3441 Railway Department, steamers purchased by, 669
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Robb, P.A., 1572 St. John harbour works, 5894 Scientific and industrial research, 3912 Senate, appointments to, 932 Shipbuilding, 802, 1325, 1341, 1914, 1934, 1661, 5430
Soldiers, votes for, 1393, 1399 Stellarton
Public building, 4951 Postmaster, 669, 897, 3758 Submarine situation, 1320, 1339 Taxation
Business profits, 1641 Income, 1652, 3775, 5884, 5886 Wealth, 3480
Taxation measures; Senate's power to amend denied, 5477 Technical education, 1241 Trade and Commerce, South America, 2331 United States
Labourers from, 665 Tariff, changes in, 1264 Vancouver Harbour Commissioners, 1575 Victoria Sealing Company, 5958 Walsh, J. J„ 1675	.
War charities, 5482 War supplies
Munitions contracts, 5517 Political patronage in purchase of, 4050, 4053
Ross rifle, 477, 479 Trenton, contractors for, 303 Wealth, conscription of, 3480 Yukon territory, 1736 Macdonald, Dr. J. A., employment of, 2283 Macdonald, Mrs. Jessie, separation allowances to, 5361
Macdonell, Mr. A. C. (South Toronto) Military service, 2847
Parliament, authority of, 2848 Quebec situation, 2852 Referendum, 2849 Reinforcements, need of, 2853 Railway Act, The, 3433, 3533 Soldiers, voting of, 2850 Mace, presentation of, 1468 Machine guns. See War supplies
Maclean, Mr. Alexander K. (Halifax) Aldershot camp grounds, 3295, 3419 Apples, embargo on, 5776 Army
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Army, soldiers' pay, 3217 Beans for seed, duty on, 671 Cold storage plants, 1628, 2078 Flour, price of, 1063 Food control, 2087 Grain, congestion in the West, 340 Henderson, Mr. Geo. F., K.C., 4243 Hogs, inspection of, 2271 Cholera, 2273 Loans to farmers, 1965 Military service, 2785 Exemptions, 3218 Potatoes, supply of, 936 Titus, Private John, 2237 Tractor engines, duty on, 674 Training camps in Canada, 899 McCraney, Mr. Geo, E. (Saskatoon)
Alcohol for public institutions, 5103 Army, medical service, 3993 Budget, 949 Taxation, 951
Policies, after the war, 953 Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 4551, 4633, 5174 Coal, western mining of, 2184 Dominion Lands Act Amendment Bills, 1157, 3805, 3811 Elrose mail service, 899 Fuel, 1417
Homestead patents, delay in, 3759 Immigrants-exemption from military service, 1572
Industrial Disputes Investigation Act, 1166 Military service, 2558 Enforcement, 2560 Exemptions, 1572, 3221, 3369 Referendum, 2559
Parliament, railway transportation for members of, 3519
Provincial legislators, free transportation for, 300, 683 Railway Act, The, 3519 Seed grain indebtedness, 302, 1126 Soldiers, returned, care of, 475 Soldier Settlement Board, 1164 Taxation, income, 3778, 4075, 4094, 4099 War-time Elections Bill, 5559, 5643-5702, 5712
McCrea, Mr. Francis N. (Sherbrooke)
Budget, 1300
Taxation of business profits, 1300 The pulp and paper industry, 1302 Flour, price of, 1069 Horses, purchases of pure bred, 2279 Military service, 3035
McCrea, Mr. F. N.-Con.
Potatoes supply of, 1087 Pulp and paper industry, 1302, 1464 Railway Act, The, 3444 Sherbrooke exhibition grounds, 302 Taxation, business profits, of, 1463 War-time Elections Bill, 5862 McCurdy, Mr. F. B. (Parliamentary Secretary, Department of Militia and Defence)
Army camps, sale of liquor in, 833 Military Service Bill, 2890 Parliamentary secretaryships, 4210, 4450 War-time Elections Bill, 6085 McCutcheon, Stanley, dismissal of, 306 McGee, the late Thos D'Arcy, monument to 3899
Mclnnis, Mr. M. A., assistant to Fuel Controller, 5422
McKee, A. J., steamer, 669, 4925, 4939 McKenzie, Mr. Daniel D. (North Cape Breton)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 78, 83
The attitude of Nova Scotia, 79 Mai-administration of the present Government, 81, 89
Canada's duty in regard to the war, 80 Militia Department affairs and the late Minister, 82
Loyal Orange Order, 85 Political patronage in recruiting, 86 Voting of soldiers, 87 Representation of Cape Breton in the Senate, 89 Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 826, 1567 Enlistment of Canadians in British Army, 385
Forestry battalions, 4509 Recruiting, 86
Soldiers' votes, 87, 4729, 4759 Baddeck mail contract, 1819 Bell, Mr. Alexander Graham, 5783 Budget, 1809
Record of the present Administration, 1090
Political patronage, 1092 Purchase of horses in Nova Scotia, 1093 Development and progress under late Administration, 1094
Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 4039, 4521, 5032, 5162 Civil Service, promotions, 4667 Coal, 2005
Confiscation of by railways, 194
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Report of, 4291 Sittings of, 2322, 2357
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McMillan, Mr. John A. (Glengarry)
Cheese purchases by British Government, 1774
Dairying industry, 2256 McNab, Colin C., proposed allowance to, 578 McNeil, F. C., payments to, 1380 McNeil, Lt. John D., promotion of, 5272 McQueen, Lieut. W. A„ employment of, 4508 McSpadden, Lt.-Col., position of, 2618 McWilliams, Mr., dismissal of, 2165 Magdalen Islands, cable service, 5407 Magladery, Mr. Thomas, M.L.A., position and pay of, 4685 Mails. See Post office Manitoba, County Court judges, 5083 Maple sugar. See Food products
Marcil, Hon. Charles tBonaventure)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 109, 119 Canada and the war, 109, 119 The Nationalist party, 109, 120 The Dorchester election, 111, 120 Recruiting in Quebec, 112, 119, 127 Quebec, past and present. 123 National service, 126 The high cost of living, 129 Army, Fifth Canadian Division, 459 Bdland, Hon. Dr„ M.P., 311, 341 Bonaventure
Breakwater, 988 County, mail service, 1126 Recruiting officer, 1675 Campbellton-Gaspe steamship service, 1126, 1228, 1959
Carleton Beach protection works, 1126 Civil Service, salaries, 2238 Court, Private Harry Ivan, 3295 Cross Point wharf, 988, 1228, 1571 Customs Department, dismissals from, 1844 Dagneau, John F., 1471 Daylight saving, 368 5 Dorchester county election, 111, 120 Elaine, steamer, 1379 Gascons wharf, 2055 Gaspe steamship services, 2325 Government Railways Act amendment, 4343 Hopetown post office, 989, 1474 Interprovincial bridges, 3891 Intoxicating liquors, 2008 Le Blanc, Maurice, 1816
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Marcil, Private Joseph, 893 Maria Beach protection works, 898 Matapedia public highway, 1379, 1816 Migratory birds, 3660 Miguasha wharf, 1126 Military service Classes, 3354 Exceptions, 3564 Exemptions, 3219, 3307, 3364 Persons liable for service, 3129 Quebec situation, 2428, 3257. See under this head, Quebec Referendum, 2432
Militia Department, employees, 312 Montreal, customs collectorship, 311 Nationalist party, 109, 120 New Carlisle, war expenditure in, 1575 New Richmond post office, 898 Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4209 Packages, marking of,-inspection and sale, 4067, 4070 Paspebiac wharf, 898, 988 Paspebiac-Hopetown mail service, 1126 Pratt Bros., payments to, 1570 Prisoners of war, exchange of, 341 Quebec and Oriental railway, 1674 Quebec, recruiting in, 112, 127, 213, 342, 2428 Railway Act, The, 3513 Read, Lance Corporal, 717 Renault, Raoul, appointment of, 2375 Restigouche river, bridging of, 988 Ross rifle, 422
Ruisseau le Bland breakwater, 898 St. Charles de Caplan wharf, 898 Separation allowances, 386 Shigawake post office, 898 Shigawake East post office, 988 Shipbuilding, 1921, 1930 Soldier Settlement Board, 3626, 3789 Taxation, income, 4102, 4123, 4130 United States troops, training of in Canada, 2482
War-time Elections Bill, 5641, 5717, 5813 Wharves, 1944
Marcile, Mr. Joseph E. (Bagot)
Budget, 1292
Trade and financial conditions, 1293 The French-Canadian people, 1294 Recruiting, 1294 Transcontinental railway, 1295 Government appointments and dismissals, 1296
Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 4998
House of Commons Accountant's office, lease of premises, 5703 Military Service Bill, 3053 Recruiting, 1294


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Expenses, 3262, 3361 Labour, attitude of, 3732 Parliament, authority of, 2530 Penalties, 3271
Persons liable for service, 3116, 3125 Quebec situation, 2536 Referendum, 2533	'
Regulations, 3314 Tribunals, 3149, 3295, 3574 Passports for women, 5783 Press statements correction of, 4889 Provincial legislators, free transportation for, 685 '
Senate, appointments to, 926 Soldiers
Returned, appointment of to government positions, 6058 Votes for, 1390, 3730
Transcontinental railway-removal of rails to France, 1229, 1266 United Grain Growers, Limited, 894 War charities, 6062 War supplies, Ross rifle, 479, 493 War-time Elections Bill, 5582, 5637-5702, 5708-5771, 6076
Merritt, Col. W. H„ collection by for Aviation Fund, 5362
Michaud, Mr. Pius (Victoria, N.B.),
Blain, Lieut. Roswell, 4245 Canadian Northern Railway, acquisition of, 5028
Civil Service promotions, 2021 Dalhousie militia buildings, 454 Danis, Joseph M., 2618 Farm labourers from United States, 4512 Immigration regulations, 454 Intercolonial railway, 798 Mail service, 3639 Military Service Bill, 2808 United States, head tax on foreigners entering, 1266
Middlebro, Mr. William S. (North Grey) Army, soldiers' votes, 4894 Breidert and Mudge patents, 1199 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4512
Companies, incorporation of, 5939 Food control, 2509
Government Railways Act amendment, 4378 House of Commons-sessional indemnity of members, 6046 Military service, 2502 Exemptions, 2506, 3202 Parliament authority of, 2503 Provinces, recruiting by, 2511 Referendum, 2502, 2512 Pensions, 6010
Soldier Settlement Board, 3624
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Insurance premiums of soldiers, 3557, 3589 Labour, attitude of. See Labour Medically unfit persons, certificates to, 5423 Penalties, 3271. See under this title, Classes Persons liable for service, 3116 Quebec Province, relation to, 2398, 2424, 2428, 2473,	2515,	2536,	2543,	2549,	2602,2626, 2638,	2659,	2685,	2697,	2704,	2716,[DOT]	2728, 2736, 2748, 2754, 2784, 2792, 2812,
2828, 2841, 2852, 2866, 2898, 2926, 2959, 2965, 2998, 3005, 3017, 3037, 3257, 3255 See also Quebec
Referendum proposed, 2403, 2478, 2498, 2521, 2527, 2533,	2555,	2582,	2589,	2601,	2623,2632, 2651,	2659,	2665,	2670,	2713,	2729,2736, 2787,	2849,	2858,	2860,	2882,	2889,2894, 2900,	2961,	3013,	3028,	3046,	3721,
3728, 3730
Registrars, 3174, 5900 Regulations, 3235, 3314
Selective draft features, 2438, 2458, 2910, 2954
See also, under this title, Board of Selection
Tribunals, 3149, 3295, 3301, 3574, 5881 Location of, 4193
Military Service Bill,	1917.	lr.,	2184.	2r.,2390, 2434, 2458,	2483,	2526,	2571,	2592,2654, 2709, 2777,	2833,	2881,	2903,	2944,2947, 3004. Div.,	3085.	Com., 3086,	3110,3135, 3187, 3237,	3295,	3353,	3375,	3554,
3557. 3r., 3718. Sen. amdts., 4663 Amendments proposed
Sir Wilfrid Laurier, 2403; lost on div., 3074
Mr. Barrette, 2524. Point of order respecting, 2844; Committee of inquiry into, 2880, 2944. Lost on div., 3074 Mr. Copp, 3075; lost on div., 3084
Military Service Council, 5314
Military Voters' Bill,	1917.	lr.,	4406.	2r.,4688. Com., 4693, 4740,	4792,	4874,
4889. 3r., 5086, 5195
Amendments proposed: Mr. Pugsley, (1) 4762; lost on div., 4774.	(2) 4892;
lost on div., 4907. Mr. German, 4907; lost on div., 4909. Sen. amdts., 5956
Militia and Defence
Department
Administration of, 82, 287 Automobiles, 2525, 3903 Employees, 312
Estimates, staff and salaries, 3949, 3962, 4044, 5218
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Montreal Trades and Labour Council, 2198 Monuments, erection of, 3896, 3899 Moore, Major Rev. A. H., 1265
Moosejaw
Enlistments, 5122
Moosejaw News patronage, 2708 Morphy, Mr. H. B. (North Perth)
Army
Soldiers, voting of, 4701, 4756, 4786, 4815, 4900
Cheese manufacture, regulations, 2265 Civil Service salaries, 2013 Companies, incorporation of, 5941 Criminal Code amendments, jurors, 4299, 4324
Gordon Divorce Bill, 5906 Insurance, 5196
Dive Stock and Produce Bill, 4290, 5505, 5513
Military service
Classes, 3142, 3284, 3291 Exemptions, 3193, 3364 Persons liable for service, 31.18 National Gallery of Canada, 5301 Pensions, 6010
Telegraph and telephone lines, 5378 Morris, Mr. James (Chateauguay)
Budget, 973
Nationalist party, 974 Free wheat, 975
The record of the Government, 975 Military Service, 2978 Newspaper article, correction of, 1775 Woman suffrage, 1523 Morton, Dr. A., position of, 5706, 5913
Mounted Police
See Royal Northwest
Mount Royal Tunnel and Terminal, 4835 Mapcom, Major, position of, 4415 Muchaboom wharf, 304
Murphy, Hon. Charles (Russell)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 225
Proposed committee of inquiry, 225 Charges by ex-Minister of Militia, 226 Army medical service, 227 The Ross rifle, 228 Armstrong, S. A., 802
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Rejected men, 3100 Soldiers, voting of, 4760, 4812, 4890 Baugh, Edward Devi, 1470, 2481 Canada Gazette, publication of, 3738 Canadian Northern railway acquisition of, 4593-4608, 4637, 4972
Cheese purchases by British Government, 1863, 2197
Civil Service appointments, 643, 648, 2021,
Under Order in Council of Jan. 1, 1917, 3003
Promotions, 4666
Firearms in Quebec hardware stores, 5083 Flour, alleged profit on, 5085 Georgian Bay Canal Commission, 3901 Hospital on Parliament Hill, 1228 Inland Revenue Department, estimates, 2388
Datchford, Ont., plant and buildings, sale of, 5706
Dessard, General, 365 Marlowe, Dt.-Col. F. W., 1227 Mc-Deod-Tellier Commission, 5251 McSpadden, Dt.-Col., 2618 Military Service, 2538 Enforcement, 2545 Dabour, attitude of, 2.543 Quebec, attitude of, 2543 Senate amendments, 4665 Montreal
Post office sub-station, 596 Public building, 305 Monuments, erection of, 3900 Ottawa, government land in, 1130 Parliament buildings Brick for, 337
Contract for construction of, 454 Stone for, 304
Parliamentary secretaryships, 4213 Public Works Department architect, 5104 Recruiting of British subjects in United States, 2482
Rideau canal, lighting of, 1939 Ross rifle, 228, 421
Substitute for, 1012, 1594 Valuation of factory, 1265 Taxation, income, 4131, 4649 War supplies, clothing, 3556 War-time Elections Bill, 5618, 5656, 5669, 5732, 5764
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Nicholson, Mr. Donald (Queen's, P.E.I.)
Address in reply to the Governor General 3 Speech, 238
Canada under Conservative rule, 238 Enlistments from Prince Edward Island,
Prosperity of Canada, 241, 243 Shipbuilding, 242 The French-Canadian people, 243 Military Service, 3001 Nickerson, W. H., dismissal of, 1472 Nickerson, William C., employment of, 2283 Nickle, Mr. W. F. (Kingston)
Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 838 Forestry battalions, 3951 Pensions, 1615
Canadian Northern railway acquisition of, 4587
Civil Service salaries, 2250 Industrial and scientific research, 5284 Military Hospitals Commission, 473 Military Service Classes, 3290 Exemptions, 3203
Packages, marking of-inspection and sale, 4066	'
Penitentiaries, officials, 6037 Pensions, 6011, 6033 Quebec railways, 5462 Railway Act, The, 3532, 3540, 3604, 3608 Royal Military College, 5310 Senate, proposed change in constitution of, 1141
Separation allowances, 382 Soldiers, returned, care of, 472 Taxation, income, 4074, 4107 Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2611
War charities, 5488 War-time Elections Bill, 5753, 5837 Nixon, Mr. A. W., military position of, 6067 Non-support
See Criminal Code Amendment Bills North Battleford, government employees, 453 Northrup, Mr. W. B. (East Hastings)
Gordon Divorce Bill, 5497, 5904 Grain for breweries and distilleries, 1184 Parliamentary sessions, expense of, 1261, 2524
Racing meets, limitation of, 321 North Sydney customs service, 607, 1852 Northwest Game Bill, The. lr„ 2569.	2r.,
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Inland Revenue Department officials and expenditure, 2362, 2380-2387 Intercolonial railway, rails, 1575 Interior Department employees, 1344, 2349 Live stock
Exchanges, 5508 Improvement of, 2278, 2281 Mail service, 3638 Merritt, Col.-Aviation Fund, 5362 Military service Authority of Parliament, 2419 Available men, 3371 Burden of proof, 3322 Classes, 3358
Contraventions of Act, 3328, 3351, 3360, 3579
Enforcement, 2416
Exemptions, 3195, 3227, 3234, 3311, 3364 General provisions, 2411, 3238	;
Mounted Police, Royal Northwest, 30i, 335, 4674
National service, 71, 361, 370, 374, 2413 National Transcontinental railway, 2209, 2218
North Battleford government employees 453
O'Cormor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3938 Oil bounties, 2329
Parliament, extension of term of, 3496 Patriotic Fund, 3079 Penitentiaries-officials' salaries, 6043 Pensions, 6005-6033 Poplar trees, conservation of, 3742 Public buildings Construction, 4181 Rentals, 4149, 5097 Repairs, 5106, 5304 Telephone service, 4147 Quebec and Saguenay railway, 1575 Railway material, removal of to France, 301, 310, 1473-1474, 1615, 1628, 1820, 3407-3408, 3398, 5293 Railways
Expenditure on, 2233 Operation of, 3412 Transportation of coal by, 3395 Recruiting. See, under this title, Army Rogers, Lt.-Col. Maynard, 1818 Ross rifle, 427, 432, 478, 510 Shore, George, suspension of sentence on, 1373
Soldier Settlement Board, 2780, 3625 Tariff revision, 1776 Taxation, 1677 Income, 4644
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"The Fiddlers" forbidden circulation, 3503, 3654, 3881, 5942. 5944 War
Charities, 3489
Government, administration of, 3371 Munitions contracts, 5532 War-time Elections Bill, 5553, 5638-5702, 5816
Ways and Means-amendment to motion for second reading of resolutions, 1677 Yukon
Judges' salaries, 5897 Miners' strike, 3086
Prices and cost of living, 2199, 2237, 2481, 2525, 2945
Orangemen. See Loyal Orange Order Ottawa
Government land in, 1130 Rents paid by the Government in, 4149, 5097 Outlook Publishing Company, payments to, 607
Overseas Minister of Munitions. See War Overseas Forces, Minister of the, 5
Non-combatant employees of Department, 4786
See Minister of the Overseas Forces, etc., Bill
Overseas forces. See Army.
Pacaud, Mr. Lucien T. (Megantic)
Military Service Bill, 2916 Thetford mines labour trouble, 1113 Pacific Dredging Company, 1126 Packages, marking of. See Inspection and Sale Act Amendment Bill Palmerston post office building, 1127 Papineau, Mr. Louis J. (Beauharnois) Lefebvre, Major Alfred, 1037, 2618, 2003 Military service, 2997 Paquet, Mr. Eugene (L'lslet)
Budget, 1297
Union and solidarity of the Canadian people, 1297
The financial position of Canada, 1298 Munitions manufacture, 1299 Development of agriculture, 1300 Food products, imports and exports of, 1573 Immigration, 803 Military service, 2789 Public health, 992 Repatriation of Canadians, 803 Pardee, Mr. Frederick F. (West Lambton) Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 823 Enlistments, 1125 Medical service, 3971
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Budget, 1304
Investigation into cost bf foodstuffs, 1304 Plea for better Canadianism, 1307 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5136
Drawbacks, payments of, 1818 Food products, control of, 1304 Georgian Bay Canal Commission, 452 Home Defence Force, 1038 Judges on provincial commissions, 593 Lavergne, Mr. A'rmand, 1038 Lewis machine guns. 2201 Mackenzie, Lieut. F. J. S., 986 Military service Exemptions, 3191
Personal attitude respecting, 3721 Persons liable for service, 3127 Tribunals, 3163 National Gallery, 5303 National Service cards, 1376 New Hamburg postmaster, 6053 Parliament, extension of term of, 3481 Pensions, 6007
Post office employees-salaries, 6051, 6053 Returned soldiers, 459 Shipbuilding at Prince Rupert, 4787 Taxation
Income, 4118, 4638 Wealth, 2528	.
Traction engines, duty on, 680 War-time Elections Act-tribunals, 6070
Paris, Ontario, recruiting in, 601
Parker, Mr. R. G. M., salary and position of, 2201
Parks, Canadian National; Jasper, 1477 Parliament
Adjournment of - Imperial War Conference, 117
Extension of term of, 15, 37, 157, 172, 175, 189, 223, 293, 2396, 3419.
Address to His Majesty the King, 3453, 3475; Div., 3501
Proposed amendment of Mr. Graham, 3461; Div., 3483
Statement by Prime Minister-no action, 3504 Members
Military pay of, 713 Railway transportation for, 3519 Printing of, 2007, 5901
Report of Committee on, 5949 Sessions-expense of
Motion for Committee to consider, 1261 Committee appointed, 1568
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Old-destruction of-indemnities for losses, 4413
Parliamentary Procedure
Adjournment motion for discussion of definite matter of urgent public importance
Discussion closely limited, 1176 When allowable, 5517, 5547 Appeal from ruling of Chairman, 2366 Bills
Discussion on introduction of, 4410 Discussion of subsequent to amendments being reported from Committee, 5771 Printing of in both languages, 5550, 5559 Sections allowed to stand not debatable, 4752
Censored publications, quotation from in Parliament, 5492 Closure Applied
Canadian Northern Railway Bill, notice, 5121; carried, 5123 War-time Elections Bill. 2r„ 5565, 5566. 3r., 5806
Concurrence in resolution of Committee of Supply not debatable, 5095 See Speaker
Rules of debate under, 5002, 5015, 5121, 5123, 5565
Committee of Supply
Application of rule 17c to Saturday sittings of, 5891, 5901
Procedure in discussing items of which votes are made up, 4947 See, under this head, Concurrence Committee of Ways and Means amendments when in order Moved, 478
Chairman's ruling, 521 Resolutions from, amendment to second reading must be relevant, 1686 Concurrence in resolution of Committee of Supply-form of notice, 5095 Irrelevancy, 2362, 2374, 5235, 5237 Language reflecting on the Chair, 2567, 2609
Letter read in violation of rules of the House, not printed, 3956 Motions, debatable, 5094 Motion for delay, Speaker's ruling, 3078 Order of business, 5891, 5901
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Order of the day lapsed for want of a quorum, reinstatement of, 2877 Orders of the Day-motion to read, 5703 Petitions, form for presentation of, 2284 Privilege-statement of member, how limited, 599
For Privilege, see that title Questions
Answers to, discussions on, 4959 Not in proper form, 4834 Receiving report of Committee of Supply- form of notice, 5095
Saturday sittings, Committe of Supply, how constituted in, 5890 Senate
Regularity of its proceedings not to be questioned in House of Commons, 5498 Taxation measure amended by, 5480, 5883 Sitting of House suspended, 1766 Taxation exclusive rights of House of Commons over, 5480, 5883 Votes and Proceedings, correctness of entry in, Committee to inquire into appointed, 2880. Report of, 2944 Parliamentary Secretaryships, 5
See Minister of the Overseas Forces, etc., Bill
Paspebiac wharf, 898, 988
Paspebiac-Hopetown mail service, 1126
Passports, Atlantic, for women, 3996, 5783
Patenaude, Hon. Esioff L. (Secretary of State)
Post Office Department estimates, 660 Resignation of office, 2199, 2235
Correspondence with Prime Minister, 2494
Secretary of State Department, of the, estimates, 665
Victoria bridge toll rates, 672 Patent medicines, 1470 *Classification of, 335 Controller of, resigns, 986 Legislation, inquiry as to proposed, 984 Regulations governing, 3817 Patent Record, printing of, 2062 Patriotic Fund. See Canadian Patriotic Fund Patronage. See Political Pay and Records Office, 3104 Payne, Mr., employment of, 5272 Peace
Dominions, consultation with on, 300 Proposals
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Pelagie Sealing Treaty, claims under, 595S Penitentaries
Dorchester, 1813
Meat supplies for, 337 Guards, salaries, of, 5803 Kelly, Thomas, treatment of, 1813 See KelU'
Officials, salaries of, 5898, 6033
Portsmouth, 3418
Prisoners
Enlistment of, proposed, 1012, 1814 Labour of, 6036, 6040 Release of, for work on farms, 803 Report of inspector, 3419 Pennsylvania coal, embargo on, 2199 , Penny Bank Act Amendment Bill, lr., 1773.
2r., Com., 3r., 2059 Pensions
Military, 1594
Amount required for, 5899 Board of Commissioners and staff, 608, 4176, 4958
Canadian in Imperial forces, for, 4662, 4688
Dependents of soldiers, 4051 Erroneous announcement denied, 5423 European war, 6005 Militiamen, 6004
Patriotic Fund, agents in applications, 382
. Proposed bill, 845
Inquiry concerning, 4293 Revision of scale, 5424 Naval, pilots, 6049
Royal Northwest Mounted Police, 5704 Perley, Sir George Halsey Appointment as Minister of the Overseas Forces, 5
Petroleum. See Oil
Pictou (County)
Rural mail routes, 900 Pictou (Town)
Contractors for war supplies at, 303 Freight, handling of, at, 303 Marine and Fisheries agency, 304, 596, 1936 Plaxton, Mr. Charles P., position of, 4418 Point Tupper mail service, 3502 Political deadlock, rumoured, 1971 Political meetings, attendance of soldiers at, 4338
Political patronage, 203, 205, 287, 726 Recruiting, in, 86, 97, 154, 162 Pollution of streams, 454 Pommeroy, Mr. Samuel, position of, 4952
Poplar trees, utilization of, 3742 Port Hood wharf, 5338 Port Malcolm wharf, 3866 Post Office
Country postmasters, salaries of, 3634, 3642 Department
Estimates, 660, 2352, 2360, 3633, 5898, 6051
Staff and salaries, 660, 3633, 5898, 6051 Letter carriers, salaries of, 580, 1474, 1805,
Mail carriers, 2243-4, 2708 Mail clerks, French-speaking, 5272 Mail contracts, 3635 Mail matter for soldiers, 3644 Mails, misuse of, 893, 1027 Parcel post, 2072, 3634, 3639 Prisoners of war, to, 3958 Postal clerks salaries, of, 2708, 3639 Railway mail service, 2244, 3650, 4102, 6051 Registration of mail matter, 668 Rural mail service, 3634, 5898 Carriers, 2247, 3634, 3636, 3643 Routes, number of, 2247 Signs, printing of, in French and English, 5999
Potatoes. See Agriculture and Food pro ducts
Power, Mr. William (Quebec, West) Military Service, 2805
Pratt Brothers, payments to, 1570
Press censorship, 3503, 3654, 3718, 3881, 3995,
Prices, fixing of. See Criminal Code Amendment Bills, Food and Cold storage
Prince Edward Island
Car ferry, 2205, 2304 See also Steamship services Enlistments from, 241, 4563 Freight, handling of, 1037 Military organization, 5422 Payments to under Agricultural Instruction Act, 455
Public works. See that title Steamship service, 660, 3389
Prince Edward Island Railway. See Canadian Government railways
Prince Rupert, shipbuilding at, 4787 Princess Louise Fusiliers, 5271 Printing, Government, 3737
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Private Bills, discussed Aerial League of the British Empire, 3633 Alliance Nationale, 1547 Bishop of Mackenzie River, 868 Breidert and Mudge Patents, 1199 Canadian Association of Stationary Engineers, 1198
Cascade Scenic Railway Company, 4365 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5496, 5641, 5902 Grain Growers Grain Co., Ltd., 1110 Grand Trunk Pacific Branch Lines Company, 1373
Imperial Order Daughters of the Empire and the Children of the Empire (Junior Branch), 5495 Mount Royal Tunnel and Terminal Co., 1110
Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2590, 2609, 3865, 3955, 3980 United Grain Growers Limited, 893 Privilege, questions of Barrette, Mr.-statement in Halifax Chronicle, 3352
Blondin, Hon. P. E.-statement in Ottawa Evening Journal, 339
Boulay, Mr.-statement in Ottawa Citizen, 2776
Bureau, Mr.-statements in Montreal Gazette, 2709, 4730
Burnham, Mr.-correction of remarks in Hansard, 869'
Clark, Mr. Michael-statements in the press, 3617
Descarries, Mr.-vote on Military Service Bill, 3846
Graham, Mr.-statement of Mr. R. B. Bennett, 804, 869
Hazen, Mr.-statement by Mr. Pugsley, 5274
Hughes, Sir Sam
Statement of Mr. Mark Irish, 2707 Statement of Mr. A. K. Maclean, 2777 Statement of Mr. Currie, 5773 Knowles, Mr.-statement in Toronto Telegram, 5085
Lafortune, Mr.-Ottawa Journal-Press, 3085
Laurier, Sir Wilfrid-statement of Sir Clifford Sifton, 4009
MacNutt, Mr.-Ottawa Journal-Press, 3656 Mondou, Mr.-statement in Montreal Gazette, 3004
Neely, Mr.-statement by Sir Clifford Sifton, 5774
Oliver, Hon. Frank-statement in L'Evene-ment, 434
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Spence, Andrew, 1472
Steamer C. E. Tanner, 5362
Taylor, Lt.-Col. J. D. M.P., 9S6
Tiemain, Lieut.-Col. H. B„ M.P., 608, 1472
War supplies-hay, 338
War-time Elections Bill, 5623, 5669, 5829
Webb, Lieutenant, 4563
Wood, Lieutenant, 4563
Provincial governments, duties payable by, 2119, 2129
Provincial prohibitory legislation. Bill in aid of, lr., 4192; 2r. and Com., 4395; 3r., 4405; Senate amendments, 5514 See also intoxicating liquors, Prohibition and Canada Temperance Act
Public health, proposed department of, 992
Public Service Committee, recommendations of, 3633
Publjc Service Loan Bill. Res., 242. lr., 353.
" 2r„ 435. Com., 435. 3r„ 476 Public Works
Buildings Alberta, 5312
British Columbia, 1126, 5312 Generally, 4147, 5314 Manitoba, 5311 Nova Scotia, 4145
Ontario, 4146, 5309, 5412. See Ottawa Quebec, 1935, 4145, 5309 Saskatchewan, 4146, 5312 Department
Automobile, purchase of, 2480 Estimates, 652, 1935, 3867, 3882, 4145, 4181, 5096, 5304, 5314, 5362 Staff and salaries, 3893, 5104 Dredging
British Columbia, 5359 Dredge Cape Breton, loss of, 596, 668, 1024, 3881 Dredge No. 6, 5404 Generally, 5096
Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, 3887
Maritime Provinces, 5359 Ontario and Quebec, 3886, 5359 See, under this title, Harbours and Rivers Dry docks. See Dry Docks Subsidies Act Amendment Bill Expenditure 1916-17, 1038 Harbours and Rivers
British Columbia, 3885, 5304, 5357 Manitoba, 5356
New Brunswick, 3872, 4185, 5347, 5411, 5890
Nova Scotia, 3866, 5314
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Publication Committee, 5791
Pugsley, Hon. William (St. John City) Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 286
The political situation, 286 Returned soldiers and political patronage, 287
Administration of military affairs under late Minister of Militia, 287 Utilization of our natural resources, 291 Shipbuilding, 292 The Dorchester campaign, 293 Canada's naval policies, 293 Extension of term of Parliament, 293 Imperial War Conference, 294 Army
Desertions, 3111 Discharges, purchase of, 3112 Enlistments, 2647 Soldiers
Returned, employment of, 3846, 6057 Voting of, 2651, 4689-4736, 4740-4786, 4808-4834, 4874-4887, 4889-4914 165th Regiment, 1725 Bathurst harbour improvements, 3872 Budget, 863, 870
Trade conditions, 863 Free wheat, 864, 870 The Minister of Inland Revenue, 879 Amendment of Mr. Turriff, 881 Canadian Government railways Branch lines, 2228, 2232 Cars for, 4928
Employees, promotion of, 762 Intercolonial railway
Coal, freight rates on, 3511 Maritime Express service, 8 Passenger service, 2207 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4230, 4248, 4486, 4837, 4990-5015, 5108 Capital punishment, 631 Civil servants, enlisted-pay and separation allowances, 664, 2252 Civil Service
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Prices and supply, 665, 2092
Maritime Provinces, in, 4063, 5085 Transportation of, 4138 Coastal regulations, 1912 Conscription, 1555 'United States citizens, of, 1743 Criminal Code amendments, jurors, 4293, 4334
Customs, duties payable by provincial governments, 2121, 2133 Daylight saving, 2945 Divorced persons, re-marriage of, 46, 1383, 1524
Dominion Lands Act Amendment, 3796 Dredging, 5096 Drill halls, control of, 4146 Dry docks, 4455, 5772, 5888, 5917 Pish and fisheries Licenses, 2150 Lobsters, 4171 Sardine fisheries, 4168 Flint, Dr., retirement of, 6044 Food control, 2091 Free wheat, 864, 870 Fuel, 1421
Game in the Northwest, 367o Grosse Isle quarantine station, 5306 Hansard, correction of statement in, 6067 Members' sessional indemnity, 6048 Morning sittings, 2619 Stenographers, 5788 Hudson Bay railway, 5086 Immigration, 2143, 2146 Imperial Munitions Board, imports, 1978 Imperial War Conference, visit of Prime Minister to, 1551 Indian lands, 1908 Insurance, 3849, 3864, 4138, 5198 Landry, Mr. Justice, findings of, 3109, 3609, 5265
See under this title, McLeod-Tellier Lighthouse keepers' salaries, 6049 Live stock exchanges, 5504 Loans to farmers, 1962 Loans, public ($100,000,000), 342 Mail contracts, 3635
McLeod-Tellier Commission, 5245, 5265 See under this title, Landry, Mr. Justice Military Service, 2642, 3254 Appeals, 3175, 3181 Classes, 3144,' 3287 Definitions, 3111 Enforcement, 2651 Enlistments, voluntary, 2647 Exemptions, 3209, 3213
Pugsiey, Hon. W.-Con.
Militia Act, 2643 Persons liable for service, 3123 Referendum, 2651 Soldiers, voting of, 2651 Tribunals, 3164, 3574
National Service Commission, remuneration to officials of, 309, 457 Newspaper reports, correction of, 5273 Order of the day, reinstatement of, 2877 Ottawa public buildings Rents paid by Government, 4149, 5097 Telephone service, 4147 Overseas Military Forces, Minister of, 4446 Packages, marking of-inspection and sale,-4065 Parcel post, 2072
Parliament, extension of term of, 3468, 3475 Parliamentary secretaryships, 4452 Peace proposals, 300 Potatoes, removal of duty on, 703 Provincial legislators, free transportation for, 684
Public Works Department
Estimates and expenditure, 3871, 5414, 5306, 5413
Quebec, railways, operating expenses of,
Railway Act, The, 606
Railways, material for use in France, 1826 St. John harbour improvements, 3875, 5349, 5413
Shipbuilding, 665, 703, 1371, 1551, 1775, 19121928, 2293, 5432-5452 Soldier Settlement Board, 3618 Steamship sendees, 2292 Supply, voting one-sixth for 1917-18, 2946 Supreme Court, allowances to Chief Justice, 6050	[DOT]
Taxation
Business profits, 1636 Income, 4089 Wealth, 3471, 3475
Telegraph and telephone service, 5364, 5401 Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2616
Toronto News, statement of, 4959 Vancouver harbour improvement, 5304 Volunteers to operate trains in France, position of, 5123 War charities, 5482 War supplies Munitions, 5527 Ross Rifle, 501
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Pugsley, Lieut. J. A., p.osition of, 4895 Pulp and paper
Newsprint, fixing of price of, 130-2 Quarantine service, 3756 Quebec (City)
Firearms in hardware stores, 5083 Harbour master, 897 Immigration agents, 5122 Quebec (Province)
Bridges, 3889 Electoral lists, 6002 Judges' salaries, 5798 Military districts Nos. 3 and 10, 455 Public Works. See that title Recruiting in, 94, 112, 119, 127, 147, 160, 185, 213, 221, 342, 363, 2398, 2424, 2515 Officers, recruiting of, 3135 See Military Service Bill and French Canadian
Quebec Montmorency and Charlevoix Railway, completion and operation of. 4948, 5452
Quebec and Oriental railway, 1674 Quebec and Saguenay railway Bondholders, 669
Completion and operation of, 303, 668, 1575, 4948, 5452 Expenditure, 1658
Legislation concerning, proposed, 458 Quebec Harbour Advances Bill. Res., 435.
lr., 438. 2r„ 577. Com., 577. 3r., 578 Quebec Harbour Commission, 436 Racing Form, The, exclusion from mails of, 306, 336, 896
Racing meets, limitation of. See Criminal Code Amendment Bills Radiotelegraph service. See Telegraphs, also Ocean Telegraph Act Railway Act Amendment Bills
1.	Bill No. 13, Mr. Cochrane, general. lr.,
194; 2r., 602; special committee, 602; motion to amend, stands, 605; com., 3420, 3511, 3592, 3716; 3r., 3740
2.	Bill No. 18, Mr. McCraney, free transportation for provincial legislators, lr., 300. 2r„ 685. Ref. to Railway Com., 685 Railway Commission, 1862, 3407 Railway mail clerks. See Post office Railways
Alleged advance to Company, 2100 Bridges, 3889
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Confiscation of, by, 584 Handling of, by, 3395, 3402 Constables, 3599
Employees, payment of salaries of, 5956 Expenditure on, 2233 Fires from locomotives, 3552, 3602 French language, printing of literature in, 3511
Material, removal of to France, 310, 335, 1229, 1266, 1372, 1473, 1474, 1615, 1628, 1690, 1820, 3407, 3409, 5293 Overdue trains, notice of, 3594 Situation, 2219, 2221, 4011, 4058, 4217, 4247, 4467, 4512, 4566, 4622, 4835 Cost of inquiry into, 3408 Traffic, congestion of, 587
For Canadian Government railways, see that title
For individual railways, see their titles Railways and Canals Department
Estimates, staff and salaries, 2202, 3385, 3402, 4925, 4928, 5428 Steamers purchased by, 669 Rainbow, His Majesty's Canadian Ship, 457, 1472
See Naval Service
Rainville, Mr. Joseph H. (Deputy Speaker) Emigration to the United States, 3285 Military service Classes, 3285
Exemptions, 3189, 3194, 3218 Farmers, of, 6002 See Deputy Speaker
Ralston, Major J. L., position and pay of,
Rankin, Captain Ramsay, position of, 987 Recruiting. See Army
For recruiting by localities, see names of localities '
Reid, Hon. J. D. (Minister of Customs) Canadian Government railways Intercolonial, management of, 769 Passenger service, 2207 Promotion of employees, 769 Quebec, 4948, 5462, 5458 Civil Service appointments, 644, 102S Coal, confiscation of by railways, 585 Customs
Crown goods, duties payable on, 19781985, 2119
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Authority of Parliament, 2703 Enlistment in Quebec, 2704 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5380 Robinson, Captain J. T., appointment of, 1377 Roche, Hon. W. J. (Minister of the Interior) Agricultural labourers from the United States, 1194
British Columbia Indian Commission, 653 Dominion Lands Act Amendment Bill, 159, 2832, 3793-3817 Farm labour, 3507
Frank, Alta., moving of residences at, 4919 French-Canadians in the United States, 4914
Game in the Northwest, 3665, 4659 Homestead regulations, 1741, 1747 Immigration Agents, 1738 Chinese, 843, 2139 Department estimates, 4914 Regulations, 449, 525 Indians, 2340, 2349
Department estimates, 1886 Sydney reserve, 3663 See Indians Interior Department
Employees, political activities of, 2350 Estimates, 652, 1344, 1735 French-speaking employees of, 2341 Orders in Council relating to, 6000 Migratory birds, 2525, 3657 Seed grain collections, 2352 Soldier Settlement Act, administration of, 4917
Soldier Settlement Board, 686, 1157, 2653, 3618, 3779
Surveys, 1345, 1735
United States' head tax on Canadians, 892 Rogers, Lt.-Col. Maynard, salary of, 1818 Rogers, Hon. Robert (Minister of Public Works)
Dry docks, 4456, 5915
Ottawa Citizen, statement of, 599
Public works
Buildings, 4145, 4181
Department: estimates, staff and salaries,, 3866, 3882, 3893, 4145, 4181, 5104 Harbours and rivers, 3866, 3882, 4187 Roads and hridges, 3888 Resignation from the Cabinet, 4736 Ross, Mr. Duncan C. (West Middlesex) Army
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Food control, 3045
Assistants to Food Controller, 4244 Industrial and scientific research, 5284 Military service, 3041
Army Act regulations, 3113 Exemptions, 3224 Persons liable for service, 3126 Tribunals, 3170 Taxation
Income, 4652 Wealth, 3045
Unclaimed bank balances, 1001 War supplies, horses, 453 War-time Elections Bill, 5677, 5687 William Davies Co., 4151 Ross rifle. See War supplies Rouville county mail carrier, 60S Roy, Judge L. R„ payments to, 1130 Royal Assent, The, 603, 3766, 5084 Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, 5304 Royal Military College, 5310 Royal Mint, Ottawa branch, 1474 Royal Naval College, 4163 Royal Northwest Mounted Police Pensions, 5704
Salaries and contingencies, 4147 Saskatchewan and Alberta, duties in, 301, 335
Subsistence, etc., 4667 Ruisseau le Blanc breakwater, 898 Russell, Mr. T. A., purchase of motor trucks by, 266, 280 Salt. See Fish
Salter, R. J., payments to, 1472 Sand Point wharf, 5316
Sauve, Pte. James, application of for pension, 5776
Savings banks, deposits in, 4685 St. Charles de Caplan wharf, 898 St. Charles river dam, 2525 St. Jerome post office, 899 St. John and Quebec Railway Act Amendment Bill, lr., 2433.	2r., Com., 3r.,
St. John harbour improvements, 3875, 4185, 5347, 5411, 5890
St. Lawrence Flour Mills Company, Government contracts with, 4509 Sainte Luce. Changing of name, 673 St. Maurice river improvements, 1381 St. Peter's canal, 3406
St. Pierre-Miquelon mail service, 3649 St. Roch Traverse lightkeeper, 1378 St. Romuald public works, 1129 Schaffner, Mr. F. L. (Souris)
Army, enlistment of unfit men, 4004 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5061
Cattle, British embargo on, 918
Civil Service, 2246
Daylight saving, 3683
Flour prices, 5214
Grain, rust in, 2067
Military service, exemptions, 3365
Ottawa public buildings, 4150
Public headth, 1001
Rural mail carriers, 2247
Taxation
Farm implements, 1713 Income, 4096
Schaffner, Mr. L. P., dismissal of, 438 School lands, tvestern, 1378 Scientific and Industrial research. See Research Council Bill Scotch Hill post office, 3649 Scout, motor boat, 5271 Scott, Mr. F. S. (South Waterloo)
Budget, 884
Canada and the war, 885 Free wheat, 885 Present prosperity, 886 Secretary of State, Department of the, estimates, 655, 3737, 5242
Security Life Insurance Company Bill, lr.,
2479. 2r., 2592. Com., 3r., 2857 Seed grain, 302, 303, 305 See Grain
Seguin, Mr. Paul A. (L'Assomption) Enlistments, 1476, 1572 Military Service Bill, 2765 Senate
Appointments to, 924 Hansard, cost of, 1571 Proposed change in constitution of, 1131 Taxation measures, precedent in amendment denied, 5480, 5883 Sevigny, Hon. Albert (Minister of Inland Revenue)
Army camps, sale of liquor in, 837 Inland Revenue Department Estimates, 2360, 3817 Expenditure, 2379 Military service, 2636 Exceptions, 3572 Quebec, recruiting in, 2638, 3256
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Returns, delay in bringing down of, 1373 Ross rifle, 154, 425, 451 Rural mail service, 5898 St. John harbour works, 5896 Salt for fish curing, 1027, 2290 Sand Point wharf, 5316 Saving's banks deposits, 4685 Shipbuilding, 1671, 1923, 5434, 5452 Small arms ammunition, 156, 2480 Soldiers, returned, appointment of, 6059 Soldier's Cove wharf, 5337 Sonora preventive officers, 4244-Steam trawlers, 300 Steamship services, 2288, 2300 Steele, Arthur, dismissal of, 338 Submarine situation, 1328 Superannuation payments, 595 Technical education, 1247 Telegraph and telephone lines, 5371 Toronto water-borne traffic, 454 Tracadie Inland Revenue officer, 1817 War-time Elections Bill, 5567, 6081 Welland canal, 3404 Wells, Clarence, 2480 White, N. W„ payments to, 1038 Whitehead life saving station, 1469 Small Arms Ammunition. See War supplies Smith, Pte. J. I„ discharge of, 3418 Smith, Mr. William (South Ontario)
Army, casualties, 2201 Cattle, British embargo on, 923 National Service cards, 2479 Railway Act, The, 3442 imith's Falls postmaster, 1570 Soldiers. See Army Soldiers' Settlement Board Advances to soldiers, 4918 Commissioners, 4917
Soldier Settlement Board Bill. Res., 1157, 2653, 3618. lr„ 3630.	2r„ 3779.	3r.,
Sonora preventive officers, 4244 Sorel, strike at, 1912, 1935 South African War-Canadian contingent, 2200
Speaker (Hon. Edgar N. Rhodes), rulings and 'statements of
Adjournment motions, when in order, 5517, 5547
Amendments ruled out not subsequently debatable, 1686 Bills
Not debatable in detail on motion for leave to introduce, 4410 Printing of in both languages, 5550
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"A man who was ashamed, Sir, of what he was doing," 5587 "Vile motives," 4313
Votes and Proceedings, error, not immediately discovered, referred to special committee, 2880 Ways and Means, amendment to second reading of resolution reported from Committee must be relevant, 1686 See also Deputy Speaker and Parliamentary procedure
Spence, Andrew, position of, 1472
Spittal, Lt.-Col. C. D., dismissal of, 645, 651, 1127
Spotten, Judge, 1127
Stanfield, Mr. John (Colchester)
Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 823 Medical service, 3984
Government railways, promotion of employees, 765
Stayner public building, 5412
Steamers utilized by British Government,
the C. E. Tanner, 5362
Steamship services
Australia and New Zealand, 2285	[DOT]
Canada
British Columbia, 2299 Magdalen Islands, 2302, 2-326 New Brunswick, 2292, 2297, 2323 Nova Scotia, 2286, 2299, 2300, 2304, 2319 Prince Edward Island, 2303, 2319, 3389, 3945
Quebec, 2299, 2318, 2325 China and Japan, 2298 France, 2307
Great Britain, 2285, 2291, 2297 Ireland, 2292 Newfoundland, 2286, 2291 South Africa, 229.1 South America, 2287 United States, 2299 West Indies, 2287
See also Transportation.
Steam trawlers. See Fish and Fisheries
Steele, Arthur, dismissal of, 338
Steele, General, appointment of, 264
Steele, Mr. Michael (South Perth)
Aerial League of the British Empire, 3633 Alcohol, on charge to medical stores, loss of, 2776
Army, soldiers, voting of, 1383, 4825 Canadian Association of Stationary Engineers, 1198 Cheese purchases, 2258 Coal, shortage of, 83 Cold storage, 2079 Gordon Divorce Bill, 5496 Imperial Order Daughters of the Empire, 5495
Public health, proposed department of, 992 Railway Act, The, 3442, 3452 Scientific and industrial research, 3909
Stefansson expedition, 4173
Stellarton, N.S.
Postmaster, 669, 897, 3758 Public building, 4951
Stevens, Mr. H. H. (Vancouver)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 62
Our troops at the front, 62 Reply to criticisms of Mr. Macdonald, 62 The Ross rifle, 63 National Service Commission, 64 The smelting and refining of ores, 66 Care of returned soldiers, 67 Army, soldiers, voting of, 4749 Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 4965
Enlistment, 2421-2428 Fisheries, proposed ministry of, 2029 Grain for breweries and distilleries, 1182 Indians, Kitsilano Reserve, 1902 Military Service, 2421
Enlistment, interference with, 2421 Labour's attitude, 2426 Quebec's attitude, 2424, 242S Referendum, 2427 National Service Commission, 64 Ross rifle, 63 Shipbuilding, 5445 Telephone lines, 5402 Wealth, conscription of, 2427 Woman suffrage, 1522 Stewart, Mr. T. J. (West Hamilton)
Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2590, 2609, 3865, 3955, 3980 Tractor engines, duty on, 680 Submarine situation, 1320 Sulphur, United States embargo on export of, 4889


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3740-3757, 3817-3844, 3866-3881, 38823902, 3949-3955, 3962-3979, 3980-4008, 4044-4058, 4145-4150, 4157-4191, 46664684, 4914-4926, 4928-4951, 5098-5108, 5205-5242, 5242- 5270, 5275-5314, 53145360,	5362-5415,	5428-5474,	5777-5805,
58-90, 5892-5900, 5948, 5997, 6004-*6060 For details see titles of departments and subjects
Supreme Court Act and Exchequer Court Act amendment Bill, lr., 2568; 2r., Com., 3r., 3630 Surveys, 1345, 13-57 Astronomical, 4917 Generally, 1345, 1357, 3898 Geological, 4179 Hydrographic, 4173 Indian Lands, 1894	*
International, 1735
Sutherland, Mr. Donald (South Oxford)
Army camps, sale of liquor in, 829 Coalition government, 2690 Flour, price of, 1080 Live stock purchases, 2280 Military service, 2682	.
Classes, 3-282
Quebec, recruiting in, 2685 Referendum, 2692 Railway Act, The, 3545, 3547 Railways, government operation of, 2234 Rural mail carriers, 3636 Soldier Settlement Board, 3786 Soldiers, behaviour of, 5234 Soldiers, votes for, 1395 Telegraphs and telephones, 3545 War-time Elections Bill, 5685, 5860 Women Suffrage, 1477 Swiss Army manoeuvres, attendance of Canadian officers at, 5219 Sydney
Harbour improvements, 5342 Industrial sites, 3956
Tanner, C. E., Steamer or Motor Boat, 5362 Tariff. See Customs and Customs Tariff Act Taxation. Senate amendment of taxation measure no precedent, 5476 Special
Business profits, 719, 727, 7-37, 745, 750, 959, 965, 1432, 1437, 1447, 1628, 2107 Comparative statement, 2508 Cost of collecting, 4686
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salary of, 5083
Thomson, Mr. Levi (Qu'Appelle)
Army, soldiers' pay, 3216 Budget, 976
The duty on farm machinery, 977 Inequalities in the tariff, 979 Free wheat, 982
Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5143
Dominion Lands Act amendment, 3811 Free wheat, 982 Military service, 2993 Exemptions, 3193, 3225 Railway transportation for Members of Parliament, 3521, 3523 Soldier Settlement Board, 3629 Thornton, Mr. Charles J. (Durham) Packages, marking of,-inspection and sale,-4066
Railway Act, The, 3544 Telegraphs and telephones, 3544 Three Rivers
Harbour improvements, 3879 Public buildings, 668 Titus, Private John, 2237
Tobin, Mr. Edmund W. (Richmond and Wolfe)
Bromptonville postmaster, 1129 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5052
Horses for war purposes, 1123 Military service, 2810 Militia Department motor cars, 2525 Ross rifle, 2054
Telegraph and telephone lines, 5388 Wool, exportation of, 1130 Toronto water-borne traffic, 454 Tracadie
Inland Revenue officer, 1817 Railway siding, 2618 Tractor engines, duty on, 674 Trade and Commerce
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Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 175
The fiftieth anniversary of Confederation, 175
Extension of term of Parliament, 175 National government, 177 Taxation of war profits, 178 The Nationalist party, 179 Recruiting in Quebec, 185 Enlistment of Canadians, 187 The manufacture of munitions, 188 Cost of the war to Canada, 189 Extension of term of Parliament, 189 Increased production, 190 National service, 191 Recruiting from the Civil Service, 192 The Ross rifle, 193 Aliens, naturalization of, 3814 Anderson, Mr. Daniel, 1265 Army
Officers, surplus of, 3103 Rejected men, 3099 Ashcroft mail service, 668 Assistant Deputy Minister of Labour, suspension of, 687 Beans for seed, 1473 Blow, Dr., payments to, 668 Budget, 746
Trade relations with Great Britain, 746 Free wheat, 747, 750 Government expenditure, 747 Taxation of business profits, 750 Revenue of Canada, 755 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5026
Civil Service
Disfranchisement of Civil servants, proposed, 2020 Recruiting from, 192 Daylight saving, 3684 Dominion Lands Act amendment, 3798 Farm labour for western Canada, 3504 Flour, price of, 1070 Food Control, 1999, 3751 Fuel, 1414 Grain
Breweries and distilleries, for, 1180
Commission, 1381
Elevators, 3707
Grading of, 126C
Rust in, 2063
Wheat
Free, 747, 756
Surplus, purchase of, 1126 United States tariff on, 1342 Hobbs, Mr. Hugh, 1228 Loans to farmers, 1968 Lockhart, Mr. Hugh, 1265
Turriff, Mr. J. G.-Con.
Mails, alleged misuse of, 893, 1027 Matthews, Mr. L., 1228 Military service, 3719 Exemptions, 3192, 3272 National service, 191 O'Connor, Mr. W. F., report of, 3751 Palmerston post office, 1127 Parliament, extension of term of, 189 Patent records, 2063 Pensions, revision, 5424 Potatoes for seed, 1473 Proportional representation, 902 Quebec and Saguenay railway, 1658 Railway Department estimates, 3410 Robinson, J. T., 1377 Ross rifle, 193, 489
Saskatchewan coal miners' strike, 3237 Senate, proposed change in constitution of, 1137
Smith, Pte. J. I., 3418 Soldier Settlement Board, 3779 Spotten, Judge, 1127 Taxation
Business profits, 178, 750, 1458 Income, 1463
Tractor engines, duty on, 678 National Transcontinental railway, operation of, 657 War
Prisoners of, parcels to, 3958 ' Prosecution of the, 1591 War-time Elections Bill, 5711, 5836 Woman suffrage, 1518
Turner, General, appointment of, 268, 279 Turner, Mr. Harvey, position of, 1469 Union Government
See Coalition Government; National Government
United Mines Workmen of Nova Scotia, 802 United States
British subjects in, recruiting of, 2482, 3904 Declaration of war by, 610 Exodus of Canadians to, 3285 Farm labourers from, 665, 1740, 1747, 1193, 4512
French Canadians in, 4914
Head tax on foreigners entering, 892, 1266
Tariff
Changes in, 1264 Wheat, on, 1342
Troops, training of, in Canada, 2482
Universal Radio Syndicate Limited. See
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Dredging in False Creek, 900, 1126 Drill Hall site, 456 Harbour Commissioners, 1575 Harbour improvements, 5304 Venereal diseases, 817, 839, 869 Verville, Mr. Alphonse (Maisonneuve)
Army, soldiers, attendance of, at public meetings, 5231
Assistant Deputy Minister of Labour, suspension of, 686
Canadian Northern Railway acquisition of, 5066
Civil Service salaries, 2245 Cold storage, 2089 Food control, 1989, 2089 High cost of living, 710
House of Commons, sessional indemnity of Members, 6047 Labour
Attitude of on Military sendee, 2795 Requirements, 2799 Military Service, 2795 Moore, Major Rev. A. H., 1265 Tariff revision, 1789 Taxation, income, 4103, 4121, 4130 Technical education, 1237 Thetford Mines labour trouble, 590, 606, 1120
War-time Elections Bill, 5741 Veterans
Army and Navy, Bill, 5421 Victoria bridge toll rates, 672 Victoria, B.C.
Breakwater, 1381 Victoria Sealing Company, 5958 Viviani, M., visit and address to Parliament of, 1318, 1361, 1362
Votes for soldiers. See Army, Soldiers Voters Lists
Provision for under War-time Elections Bill, 5418
Walsh, J. J., payments to, 1675 War
Charities. See Charities Bill Defence of Canada. See Militia and Defence
Expenditure, 274, 354, 386, 408, 476, 522, 525, , 549, 718, 2936
See also War Appropriation Bill Loans, 720, 2774
Minister of Overseas Services, proposed, 277, 279
Pay and Records office, 1355 Prisoners of, 666
Arrangements for exchange of, 4194


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Money orders for, 714 Parcels for, 714, 3958 Prosecution of the, 2320, 3371, 3375 Motion of Mr. Currie, 1576 Submarine situation, 1320 "Taxes
See Taxation Supplies Boots, 4062 Clothing, 556, 3556 Davidson Commission, 249 Equipment, 40, 262 Hay, 338 Horses, 453, 1093
Machine guns, 590, 2201	.
Mattresses and covers, 6065 Methods of purchase, 232, 265 Motor trucks, 262, 266, 280, 558 Munitions, 31, 36, 188, 4928, 5517, 5541 Rifles
Importations of, 1125 Ross, 63, 154, 193, 228, 235, 451, 2451, 3487
Correspondence brought down, 7 Factory, 663, 1265
In Committee (statement by Prime Minister), 388-434; resumed, 477522
Substitute for, 1012, 1594 Small arms ammunition, 156, 2480 Supplies
Patronage in purchase of, 4050, 4053 Pictou contractors for, 303 Trenton contractors for, 303 Transports, 1280 Transportation of, 33, 36 Trophies, exhibition of, 6003 Wagons, 556
See War Purchasing Commission
War Appropriation ($500,000,000) Bill. Res., 354, 386, 408, 476. lr., 522.	2r., 525.
Com., 525, 549. 3r., 585
War Charities Bill, lr., 5242.	2r.,	5424.
Com., 5424, 5481, 6062. 3r., 6065 See also p. 378
War Purchasing Commission, 32, 340
See War Supplies
War Revenue Act
Prosecutions under, 2379, 3835
See Inland Revenue Department, Estimates
War-time Elections Bill, lr., 5415. 2., 5550, 5565. Com., 5637, 5706. 3r., 5805, 5806 Closure applied, 5565, 5706, 5806


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Amendments proposed :	Sir Wilfrid
Laurier, 5576; lost on div., 5628. Mr. Pugsley, 5629; lost on div., 5635. Mr. Neely, 5650; lost, 5659. Mr. McCraney, 5659; lost on div., 5660. M,r. Lapointe, lost on div., 5770. Mr. Neely, 5824; lost on div., 5879 Senate amdts., 6071
War-time Elections Act
Female enumerators, 6071 Polling Divisions, 6070 Qualifications of voter, 6092 Tribunals, candidates for federal elections serving on, 6070
Washington Conference, Canadian delegates to, 1127
Waterford, N. S., explosion at, 5775
Ways and Means, Committee of, 584, 1436, 1445, 1628, 3760, 5242, 6061 Amendment, Mr. Oliver, 1677 See Budget and Taxation
Wealth, Conscription of
Amendments to address for extension of term of Parliament, Mr. Graham, 3641, 3471, 3480
Statement by Finance Minister, 3187 See Taxation
Webb, Lieutenant, position of, 4563
Webster, Mr. John (Brockville)
Army, 122nd Battalion, 5083 Budget, 953
The dairying industry, 953 Canada's part in the war, 956 Cheese, manufacture and sale of, 2268 Packages, marking of-inspection and sale, 4068
Weichel, Mr. William G. (North Waterloo) Military Service Bill, 2801 National Transcontinental Bailway, ties, 455
.War-time Elections Bill, 5832
Weights and measures, inspection of, 2383, 3842
Welland canal
Construction of, 2206, 3402, 4925 Dynamiters of, 4926
West Edmonton forest rangers and homestead inspectors, 1476	.
Western Canada, farm labour for, 3504
Wheat. See Grain
White, Rev. Ward, position of, 3903
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White, Sir Thomas (Minister of Finance) Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 272
Reply to statements of Sir Sam Hughes, 272
War expenditure, 274 Proposed Minister of Overseas Services, 277, 279
Appointment of General Turner, 279, 280 [DOT]Purchase of motor trucks and transports, 280
Canada and the war, 282 Army
Camps, sale of liquor in, 818 Medical service, commission of inquiry into, 542
Soldiers, life insurance of, 3589 Officers, unattached, 563 Beans, duty on, 671 Bran and shorts, duty on, 1870 British Government and Canadian Pacific Railway Financial arrangement Bill, 1369, 2059 Budget, 718, 937
National income and expenditure, 718 War expenditure, 718 Income taxation, 719 Taxation of business profits, 719 War loans, 720 Trade of Canada, 721 Free wheat, 937 Amendment of Mr. Oliver, 949 Business Profits War Tax, 5290 Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 4011, 4217, 4247-4287, 4467, 4595-4620, 4622-4638, 4835-4873, 4960-5015, 5154 Canadian Pacific railway-Bill to facilitate financial arrangements, etc., 1369, 2059 Civil Service
Enlistments from, 2014, 2253 Promotions, 2010 Salaries, 2008, 2238
Civil Service Act amendment, 2008, 2238 Customs Tariff Act amendment, proposed, 1689
Enlistment, voluntary, 2583 Finance, Department of, estimates,, 1790, 1796
Flour, price of, 1053, 1088 Fuel, 1419
Grand Trunk Pacific railway, loan to, 5292 Rails, removal of from, 5296 ' Hughes, Sir Sam, reply to statement of, 3110
Military Service Bill, 2582 Voluntary enlistment, 2583 Progress of the war, 2584


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Wealth, conscription of, 3187 See, under this title, Taxation
Whitehead life-saving station, 1469 Williams Head quarantine station, 5312 Wilcox, Mr. Oliver J. (North Essex)
Racing meets, limitation of, 8, 313 Toronto Globe-correction of statement in, 47
Tractor engines, duty on, 676 Wilfrid C., vessel, 4062
William Davies Co., 4151 See Food Investigation Wilson, Mr. Charles A. (Laval)
Canadian Northern railway, acquisition of, 5069
Criminal Code amendment, jurors, 4300, 4326
Military Service Bill, 2925 Contraventions of Act, 3328 Exemptions, 3303 Quebec, recruiting in, 2926 Penitentiaries, salaries of guards, 5803 Potato consignments, 607 Railway Act, The, 3444, 3447 Ships built in Canada, 591 Soldiers, voting of, 4722 Taxation, income, 4073 Wilson, Mr. Gordon C. (Wentworth)
Address in reply to the Governor General's Speech, 9
Canada and the war, 9 Tribute to deceased Member, 10 Provision for returned soldiers, 10 National service, 10 Canada's financial stability, 11 Fiftieth anniversary of Confederation, 11 Toronto, Hamilton and Buffalo railway, 2610
Windsor, N.S.
Tribune building, 1380 Wharf repairs, 1380
Windsor, Ontario, immigration officers, 2357 Windsor Junction, N.S., mail service, 5913 Wireless telegraph. See Telegraphs Woman suffrage
Enfranchisement under War-time Elections Bill, 5416
Pugsley, Mr., motion and amendments by Notice stands, 309; postponed, 672, 759 Amendment to motion of Mr. Sutherland, 1488
Ruled out by Mr. Speaker, 1490, 1508 Amendment to amendment of Sir Robert Borden, 1522


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Sutherland, Mr., motion of, 1477, 1627 Borden, Sir Robert, amendment of, 1508 Inquiry by Mr. Pugsley, 4958
Women
Atlantic passports for, 3996, 5783 Munition workers, 4063
Wood, Lieutenant, position of, 4563 Wool, exportation of, 1130 Wright, Mr. William (Muskoka)
Grain, 5208
Wheat, fixing price of, 3694, 3703 Live stock exchanges, 5512 Public Works Department estimates, 5335 Railway Act, The, 3514
Wright, Mr. W.-Con.
Railway transportation for Members of Parliament, 3521	,
Soldier Settlement Board, 3629 Woman suffrage, 1479 Yarmouth harbour improvements, 3870 Year Book, Canada, 2337 Yukon territory, 1736 Administrator, 5122 Commissioner of, 3677 Expenditure, 592 Judges' salaries, 5896 Miners' strike, 3086 Population, 593
Prices and cost of living, 2199, 2237, 2481, 2571, 2954
Zinc. See Mines and minerals