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Tags: <baking><vinegar><bread>
Title: Why is there vinegar in the bread recipe?
Question: Yesterday I made bread based on a recipe I found on the flour bag. It contained both rye and wheat flour but also three tablespoons of vinegar. I've never seen it used in bread before, why is it there?

Answers:
sents: text: If it contained a high amount of rye flour, an acid would be needed for the bread to leaven.
text: This is because bread with lots of rye rises due to polysaccharates called "pentosans" (if i remember correctly) being sticky and holding in the carbon dioxide bubbles.
text: With heat, an enzyme in rye called "amylase" will start eating up the pentosans, unless the amylase is deactivated with acidity (wheat flour uses a protein called "gluten" to trap bubbles, and its amylase is deactivated with heat anyhow).
text: The acidity is traditionally lactic acid, produced by lactobacilli bacteria in sourdough, but could be vinegar.
text: If it's mostly wheat flour (i.e. if you have to knead it), the vinegar would just be for flavour.
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/3994/Nick
score: 11
sents: text: Another reason you can use vinegar in a bread recipe - to produce a sourdough.
text: Under traditional methods of making a sourdough bread, one keeps a 'sour' (sponge) or a piece of dough from the days previous production, which acts as a starter for the current bread.
text: In many of todays commercial bakeries (grocery stores, etc.), sours are not kept from day to day, and powdered substitutes are used.
text: They are normally just a glorified acetic acid (in a powdered form).
text: So, you can just use vinegar to produce the same results.
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/3630/mrwienerdog
score: 9
sents: text: When I asked this question - Is there anything I can add to homemade bread to preserve it?
text: - Arafangion said that one commercial bread company now uses vinegar as a preservative.
text: This is his answer to my question: "One commercial bread company has switched preservatives... They use vinegar (I suspect ordinary white vinegar).
text: Maybe you could give a little bit of vinegar a go and see how that works?
text: You can still smell it if you sniff and sandwiches
text: do have a faint vinegar flavour, but it seems to work well enough for the company and it apparently hasn't sabotaged the product line...
text: Then again, it /is/ commercial bread..."
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/2065/Bluebelle
score: 4
sents: text: I've found that a lower pH (more acidity) weakens the gluten and makes the crumb less chewey or less rubbery.
text: Certainly one thing to try before taking the step of adding vinegar to a bread recipe is to replace any bread flour with general purpose flour instead -- it should have the same effect.
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/None/
score: 1
sents: text: In making faster no-Knead bread Jim Lahey suggest adding 4 drops or up to 1/4 tsp of red wine vinegar to the basic recipe.
text: Improve gluten development and flavor.
text: See the video with Mark Bittman here:
text: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/08/dining/08mini.html?ref=dining
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/9673/Michael
score: 1
sents: text: It might also, in addition to something like bicarbonate soda act as a raising agent for some types of bread - the reaction of the vinegar with the bicarb causing gas release causing rising.
text: This is only a guess however
answer_details: author: cooking.stackexchange.com/users/2010/NBenatar
score: 0

Summary of the answers:
This could be to lower the pH due to the rye flour, which could be necessary in order for the bread to leaven. It could also be to produce a sourdough, improve shelf life, improve gluten development and texture or to react with something like bicarbonate as a raising agent.
Acid can help with rising, with weakening the gluten and as a preservative.