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+lvctete,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,looks like a cancerous growth,3532,2024-11-04 09:58:09
+lvcy2ry,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Biblically accurate turnout,3420,2024-11-04 10:22:46
+lvcv323,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,![gif](giphy|MmpoBBmzvNBCM|downsized),2224,2024-11-04 10:07:01
+lvcwfzk,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,That's the American system for you,1381,2024-11-04 10:14:11
+lvcum1u,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Looks like something the doctors catch, but it's already stage four.",896,2024-11-04 10:04:31
+lvcx26q,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"why are people hating on this lol
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+it’s showing exactly where the strongholds are, for MAGA it’s the appalachians, missouri and arkansas, and the bumfuck empty northwest, and then for the dems it’s california, chicago, and the whole northeast
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+it’s also showing that the north south divide doesn’t really exist, and the south is a battleground, especially texas and florida",740,2024-11-04 10:17:25
+lvcxnn4,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"The best representation of US vote results I've seen is this one [https://xkcd.com/2399/](https://xkcd.com/2399/) which maintains both geographic reality and a presents a roughly-accurate view of how many and where voters cast votes. Maps that only maintain geography or, like this one, only represent population, tend to distort reality in frustrating ways.",485,2024-11-04 10:20:34
+lveexu7,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"IF THOU ART STILL IN LINE TO VOTE, BE NOT AFRAID OF STAYING IN LINE",466,2024-11-04 14:44:44
+lvd12kd,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,they aren't hating on the substance they are hating on the form and design...,314,2024-11-04 10:38:23
+lvdfp6m,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,That one is good for showing just how sparse the population is in certain areas.,223,2024-11-04 11:52:59
+lvehrke,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Also good for emphasizing that the ""red state / blue state"" bullshit is indeed bullshit.
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+We have an urban/rural divide, but not by state.",207,2024-11-04 14:58:36
+lvcu26d,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I'll always dislike this kind of maps.,200,2024-11-04 10:01:35
+lvdhwhd,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"radiologist:   Well,  Uncle Sam,  I'm afraid we have some bad news for you...  you seem to have a metastasised malignant electoral college...",157,2024-11-04 12:03:45
+lvd2ri9,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Looks like the red part is squeezing the life out of the blue part.,147,2024-11-04 10:47:08
+lvd5tt3,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Hexagons are right there, but instead we get something out of Half-Life 2",132,2024-11-04 11:02:42
+lvem4ng,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,[deleted],111,2024-11-04 15:20:07
+lvcy5rf,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Literally my first thought,108,2024-11-04 10:23:12
+lvcv0kl,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"They are called cartograms, and are famously hard to read first non-specialist.",101,2024-11-04 10:06:39
+lvcugo6,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,*has stroke trying to read map*,93,2024-11-04 10:03:44
+lvd7u2s,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Always has been 🧑‍🚀 🔫👨‍🚀,83,2024-11-04 11:13:16
+lvdeq29,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Accurate,81,2024-11-04 11:48:13
+lvd3o0y,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"It’s kind of misleading. For example, in the west you can see that huge light blue bubble next to LA, that’s Maricopa county, and Biden only net 45k votes from it
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+Meanwhile there’s a red bubble above Houston that looks much smaller, Montgomery County, but Trump net 120k votes from that. This map overstates Democratic support by making light blue counties puffed up the same as deep blue ones. If it was proportional to raw vote margin and not flat out population it would convey it better 
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+Edit: [This Map](https://i.imgur.com/FX0T847.jpeg) portrays the actual situation correctly",77,2024-11-04 10:51:45
+lvd3rza,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,looks like those stress balls that pop out when you squeeze,71,2024-11-04 10:52:19
+lvcw9ve,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Why tho? I think it's really informative,69,2024-11-04 10:13:18
+lvcx1mw,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"As a non-specialist, i'll always dislike this cartograms.",69,2024-11-04 10:17:20
+lvd075u,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Fuck the electoral college,68,2024-11-04 10:33:49
+lvfkg0r,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,THOU ART TO POKEMON GOETH TO THY POLLS,67,2024-11-04 18:16:42
+lvcw7ke,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,He was talking about the blue bubbles.,64,2024-11-04 10:12:57
+lvdk8c9,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Just came into the comments to see how many people had the same idea hahaha,61,2024-11-04 12:15:06
+lvf45iv,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Akira-lookin ass turnout,56,2024-11-04 16:49:32
+lvcyf5z,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Missouri ranked 21/50 states in votes cast for Biden. The huge urban areas of St. Louis, KC, and the smaller area of Columbia are plainly blue. Percentage wise Trump only got 56% of the vote in Missouri, which reliably votes for progressive policies, including rec. cannabis legalization, pro-Union, anti-gerrymandering, and this year probably abortion rights.",55,2024-11-04 10:24:33
+lvcwk7k,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"The map's a tad misleading - these are *counties*, not *electoral districts*, which are what actually count. They tend to make the Democrats look stronger because Democrats do better in densely-populated areas, but the actual results are a bit more Republican-friendly.",53,2024-11-04 10:14:47
+lvdvtm7,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,_obviously there's a xkcd for that_,51,2024-11-04 13:11:07
+lveveh9,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"If you only look at the states, you'd think Democrats have no support.
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+If you only look at the states, you write off entire states that are not full of Republicans, but full of a mix.
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+If you only look at geography, you miss the fact that there are more Democrats than Republicans.
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+These are all things I hear time and time and time and time again.
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+If you refuse to understand how alternative views of the data help to further understanding, I don't know what to tell you.",46,2024-11-04 16:05:30
+lvdpc9a,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,It really does look like some kind of red disease afflicting a blue organ.,40,2024-11-04 12:39:45
+lvcuchj,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Accurate description of MAGA,39,2024-11-04 10:03:07
+lvcvbxu,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,This almost makes me believe that Texas and Florida can go blue this year,38,2024-11-04 10:08:19
+lvd7agd,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Exactly- where it succeeds in showing the population difference it fails in showing the margin.,38,2024-11-04 11:10:25
+lveqaze,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"But the US election is counted by states, so whatever the actual divide line is this will continue to be the reported one",36,2024-11-04 15:40:35
+lvd1p4i,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"I’m blue, but you’re right. This granulomatous inflammation needs to be checked out. Do you see those lymphocytes?",34,2024-11-04 10:41:37
+lvcxq4b,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"It’s a presidential election. Outside of Nebraska and Maine, neither counties nor electoral districts are relevant.",33,2024-11-04 10:20:56
+lvdlamc,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,It's NAHHT A TUMA,32,2024-11-04 12:20:14
+lvcwbsq,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Not really a map, but an abstraction of a map to reveal a deeper truth.",31,2024-11-04 10:13:35
+lvcwvdo,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"I mean, MAGA is obviously a figurative cancer on our society, but the image just looks like a literal cancerous growth.",31,2024-11-04 10:16:25
+lvcxozw,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,This map also disregards all the republican votes in the blue counties. Southeast florida voted like 40% republican but all we see is a giant blue mass because it makes it seem like the whole county voted one way.,27,2024-11-04 10:20:45
+lvd1qvc,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Cartograms are useful for showing differences in size that normal maps don’t. This is highlighting how even if there’s 2x red counties, since the votes are demonstrably blue, blue is actually winning the race. 
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+If it was a normal map with the counties as their normal size, it is misleading as to how the country actually voted. 
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+While it’s hard to read, the map is trying to give specific information, and it does that well with a cartogram.",24,2024-11-04 10:41:52
+lveddso,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Common xkcd W,24,2024-11-04 14:37:01
+lvdbxpi,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Super cool map but don't take pride in that reasoning mate. The best representation of data can be understood by any 8th year old at first glance, good visualization means you in fact don't need to be a specialist to undetstand it.
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+I work at a big industrial site and when I first came in, our office guys liked to present their data in a way that made them look smart. I told them if their primary school kids can read it, I'll allow it in the meeting. If they can't, it will just mean everyone wastes a lot of time trying to understand the graphic and then argues about things that are technically already explained. After 2 weeks our daily production meeting went from 1h30 min to 20 min.",22,2024-11-04 11:34:18
+lvdc2vu,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"The light blue / light red is a legitimate critique. OP's map shows winner-take-most, like the electoral college, but on a county level (not winner take-all because there is shading). Making the shades for the essentially neutral counties would help reduce the potential over-emphasis of a narrow lean within a county. With 4 shades of red and 4 shades of blue they likely wouldn't even need to add more shades, just adjust the colors used.
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+Similarly, the map you posted has benefits in that it emphasizes based on margins, but it could be critiqued because 
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+1. A viewer is going to mentally fill in empty space with the colors around it, making places like Maine and Michigan look more red than they are 
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+2. De-emphasizing large counties that were neutral in an election but would change in size drastically with a minor change in voting percentages (granted that's more of a negative if showing polling that could change significantly or using it to predict future elections versus simply saying this is a result of the 2020 election)
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+3. Over-emphasizing the impact of states that won by a large margin versus states that won by a small margin, 
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+4. The minimum dot size on that map makes the extremely rural counties disproportionally large. This could be corrected by increasing the resolution of the map drastically and using a vector format, however that would rely on the presenting format (ie. the user's device resolution, the resolution the website displays it at and impossibly preventing the image getting copied to a bitmap format).
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+5. Overlapping dots de-emphasize the overlapped counties. If you zoom in on Allegheny County, you see a large blue circle that is severely de-emphasized by neighboring counties.
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+Not saying either one is right, just that claiming that this map shows the actual situation more correctly than OP's requires focusing unequally on critiques of the two maps.",20,2024-11-04 11:35:02
+lvcysdb,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"yeah looking at it there is a giant blue hole labelled st louis, hopefully it only grows over time",19,2024-11-04 10:26:27
+lvezmjs,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"*Constant* XKCD W.
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+I've never seen that man take an L.",18,2024-11-04 16:26:42
+lvd2wqz,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,r/peopleliveincities,18,2024-11-04 10:47:53
+lvcynj3,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"That's what I mean - it also doesn't show Democrat votes in Republican counties, but those counties are much less-populated so you don't really feel the absence. Anything which emphasises population numbers will make the Democrats look better, and anything which emphasises the electoral system will make Republicans look better; that's just how American politics is structured - the Democrats are flatly more popular, but the system favours Republicans.",17,2024-11-04 10:25:47
+lvcw57c,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I didn’t know Salvador Dali was making political results maps now,16,2024-11-04 10:12:37
+lvct44u,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Fleshy,15,2024-11-04 09:56:34
+lvdnfal,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,It reminds me of those fireworks from Dune 2 on Geidi Prime... the Black and White blob ones.,15,2024-11-04 12:30:22
+lvf0pwk,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I was gonna say US Inflation fetish,14,2024-11-04 16:32:13
+lvcyr0q,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,They incorrectly reversed two cities in Missouri on that. Columbia/Jefferson City.,14,2024-11-04 10:26:16
+lvdpvn6,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Yeah, this article shows several different ways of presenting the same data, all of which look better than what we've got here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/05/lets-get-ahead-it-map-early-2020-results-by-population-not-acreage/",14,2024-11-04 12:42:23
+lvdaex1,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,It’s also really gross. r/trypophobia triggered,14,2024-11-04 11:26:32
+lvegy92,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,[one dot = one vote](https://www.maproomblog.com/2021/02/field-releases-dot-density-map-for-the-2020-u-s-presidential-election/),13,2024-11-04 14:54:35
+lvgadel,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"His point is that the electoral college ""only looks at the states"" as it were.",13,2024-11-04 20:45:05
+lvepe17,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"damn your eyes, I wish I'd thought to add that!  you win my internet today.
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+\[afterthought\] if you ratio me, you will have deserved it",12,2024-11-04 15:36:06
+lvg90d2,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,*Offer not valid in Georgia where you are beyond even HIS power to help while you remain in line.,12,2024-11-04 20:37:06
+lvcyn4n,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,polycystic usa,12,2024-11-04 10:25:43
+lvdigwp,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"I mean, I am a ball of stress and I feel very squeezed rn...",11,2024-11-04 12:06:32
+lvd02je,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I like these fast more than the usual static geographic maps. Land doesn't vote. Density matters.,11,2024-11-04 10:33:08
+lvczoje,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Immediately to the left is Boone County (Columbia) and then Kansas City, Missouri Metro Area. This is the fairly liberal core of Missouri's population density, along I-70/The Missouri River.",11,2024-11-04 10:31:04
+lvdcqwa,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"I enjoy the simple ones too and appreciate their effectiveness. However, I think there are some advantages to this the over the more easily understood ones. Mostly that this correctly maintains the messy purpleness and geographic relationship between places. Symbolically I love the biological representation of partially biological creatures. Normally I try to stay accessible for the reasons you mentioned, but sometimes it's fun to cater to knowledgeable folks as well. It's very popular and has wide appeal.",11,2024-11-04 11:38:22
+lvcykgq,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Yea, a better view would be state level (except Nebraska and Maine) with the state scaled to represent their number of electoral votes.  Popular vote writ large literally doesn’t matter, only if a candidate received enough of the popular vote in each state to get its electoral votes.",11,2024-11-04 10:25:19
+lvd97zo,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Fuck states rights! I want people to vote for the president!,10,2024-11-04 11:20:19
+lvfl5bo,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,real /r/PeopleLiveInCities/ energy,10,2024-11-04 18:20:35
+lvexibp,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,What a Columbia/Jefferson City thing to say.,10,2024-11-04 16:16:00
+lvdzzuf,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Hexagons are the bestagons,10,2024-11-04 13:31:22
+lvdn9y2,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,That's America for ya,9,2024-11-04 12:29:39
+lvdmou3,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Looks like Tetsuo's arm,9,2024-11-04 12:26:52
+lvdveun,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,You misspelled toomah!,9,2024-11-04 13:09:08
+lvcxu5n,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,![gif](giphy|oO8CntAELTWWl2KQbP|downsized),9,2024-11-04 10:21:31
+lvczcag,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,It's like a blue bird caught in a red web if you look long enough,8,2024-11-04 10:29:19
+lvdxjgl,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,im gonna STRANGLE YOUR PARENTS,8,2024-11-04 13:19:31
+lvdhn6y,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"It's the opposite of informative. It may CONTAIN a lot of information, but I can't get shit out of it by looking at it.",8,2024-11-04 12:02:29
+lvefj4l,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Uniform hexagonal tiling on a standard map projection could not be used to communicate the same information.,8,2024-11-04 14:47:40
+lvds4mb,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"With a normal map there are a lot of (very) red counties that have very little population, and make the election look way more Republican, while this map makes them way smaller and correctly shows a closer and slightly blue race",7,2024-11-04 12:53:13
+lvefvgd,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,This isn't exactly a standard map projection either,7,2024-11-04 14:49:20
+lvd1qzx,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"Isn’t how contested a county was reflected in how dark/pale the color is?
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+Assuming you’re not color blind, can’t you tell Democratic Florida counties are all relatively contested, because none are as dark blue as say Washington DC or San Francisco?
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+Like how you can tell there’s lots of Democrats in the net Republican Upper Midwest because it’s mostly pale pink?",7,2024-11-04 10:41:53
+lvdd8rj,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"I think its pretty good data, easy to read :-).",7,2024-11-04 11:40:51
+lvd7kx9,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Facts,7,2024-11-04 11:11:51
+lvdfp2s,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,now move all circles together so they touch,7,2024-11-04 11:52:58
+lvczhxl,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"This is the perfect counter to the ""no blue states"" garbage",7,2024-11-04 10:30:07
+lvdbmar,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,"florida is 100% not a battleground, texas is a bit more but still i wouldn't call it a swing state",6,2024-11-04 11:32:41
+lvd23ua,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I like it even though it’s icky-very informative on a gut level ;-),6,2024-11-04 10:43:44
+lvdl0fl,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,This is what people voting looks like as opposed to land voting,5,2024-11-04 12:18:52
+lvcw1y1,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Wtf am I looking at,5,2024-11-04 10:12:08
+lvcvac7,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Honestly not a big fan of these maps.,5,2024-11-04 10:08:05
+lvcwk3u,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Hope,5,2024-11-04 10:14:46
+lvgdxdf,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Here's to winning the cronenberg vote,5,2024-11-04 21:05:36
+lvesr74,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Art imitates life.,5,2024-11-04 15:52:30
+lveq5zd,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,KANEDA,5,2024-11-04 15:39:55
+lvekpkj,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,Make them kiss.,5,2024-11-04 15:13:06
+lvdi3de,1gjg4w7,2020 U.S. Presidential Election results,I think turnout in Texas is being boosted by Cruz being wildly unpopular. We may yet see it go blue or at least hit swing state status.,5,2024-11-04 12:04:41