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[16:22] <Laney> sil2100: any more thoughts on ubuntu-meta? I could drop restricted from the .cfg file which seems like it would work, not sure what implications that has ... |
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[16:22] <Laney> would *technically* work |
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[16:26] <jibel> sil2100, I'm reviewing your updated branch of ubiquity. Did you try to build the package? the testsuite is failing for me on hirsute |
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[16:30] <sil2100> jibel: eeek, sorry about that, yeah, so the updated one I didn't - since it was a one-liner I totally missed that |
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[16:30] <sil2100> Fixing |
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[16:30] <sil2100> Laney: hm, let me get back to you soon |
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[16:31] <sil2100> I'll let the package build finish before pushing the fix |
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[16:33] <Laney> k |
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[16:43] <sil2100> jibel: done |
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[16:43] <sil2100> jibel: thanks for taking a look! |
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[16:58] <sil2100> Laney: so this is quite the pickle, I mean, wouldn't removing 'restricted' from the .cfg mean that the next refresh wouldn't have the restricted deps anymore? |
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[16:59] <sil2100> I think this is something someone with more archive experience needs to look at, like vorlon - since I would really want to pull in the raspi restricted bits properly instead of once again installing them artificially in livecd-rootfs |
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[17:00] <Laney> sil2100: yes, that's the point, we can't have those deps |
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[17:00] <Laney> we didn't have them in groovy, they're only arriving now semi randomly because someone else did an update |
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[17:02] <vorlon> sil2100: Laney: removing 'restricted' from what .cfg, please? |
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[17:12] <Laney> vorlon: update.cfg in ubuntu-meta |
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[17:12] <Laney> basically we have component-mismatches now because of some stuff in restricted that's in one of the raspi seeds |
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[17:12] <Laney> and we were riffing on how to resolve that |
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[17:14] <vorlon> aha |
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[17:14] <vorlon> yeah |
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[17:18] <vorlon> well, first question, should we have linux-firmware-raspi2 in main, the way we do the intel/amd microcode |
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[17:23] <vorlon> second, uh, why does the raspi desktop seed diverge so much from the standard desktop seed |
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[17:23] <vorlon> ah desktop-minimal vs desktop |
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[17:23] <vorlon> wait no |
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[17:23] <vorlon> ok anyway |
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[17:24] <vorlon> it's certainly atypical for us to have a per-board metapackage as opposed to handling this all in livecd-rootfs |
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[17:24] <vorlon> and I don't like that the ubuntu-meta update.cfg now allows restricted packages to sneak in as dependencies on other archs |
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[17:24] <vorlon> I think that's fundamental |
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[17:24] <PatrickD31> Hi, having some issues installing 18.04 using MAAS, because apparently the package linux-generic-hwe-18.04 is no longer available... https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/bionic/main/updates/linux-generic-hwe-18.04 |
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[17:26] <sladen> vorlon: on, oh that theme, to throw a spanner into the works---it is now possible to decrypt some/most of the P6-era intel microcode updates (and re-encrypt with a new key) |
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[17:27] <sladen> vorlon: perhaps freeness in Debian main would be the excuse to make some of that more public |
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[17:27] <vorlon> PatrickD31: this is related to a major dataloss regression that happened in the latest kernel update, there is currently no linux-meta package published in bionic-updates or bionic-security |
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[17:28] <vorlon> apw: ^^ is there an intent to restore the previously-published kernel back to bionic-{updates,security}? |
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[17:28] <vorlon> PatrickD31: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1907262 for details |
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[17:28] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1907262 in linux (Ubuntu) "raid10: discard leads to corrupted file system" [Undecided,Confirmed] |
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[17:28] <jibel> sil2100, I was referring to MiscTests https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YXtqdw5g7z/ |
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[17:29] <vorlon> sladen: well, we already ship {intel,amd64}-microcode in main in Ubuntu; I'm just wondering whether the rationale there extends to the rpi firmware package |
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[17:29] <apw> vorlon, working on it now |
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[17:29] <vorlon> would require some digging |
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[17:29] <vorlon> apw: ok cheers |
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[17:31] <sil2100> jibel: oh, the package built fine here, hm hm |
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[17:32] <sil2100> Though I don't run hirsute |
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[17:33] <sil2100> THis doesn't seem related to my change, and as said it built fine locally - I can take a look at fixing the FTBFS but does it build fine on the master branch? |
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[17:33] <jibel> sil2100, i'll rebase your mp and try again |
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[17:33] <jibel> sil2100, yes master builds fine |
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[17:39] <PatrickD31> @apw Any ETA on when those packages will be back ? |
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[17:39] <udevbot_> Error: "apw" is not a valid command. |
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[17:39] <apw> PatrickD31, working on it now, so 'a couple of publisher runs' i would expect |
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[18:19] <sil2100> vorlon: hm, ok, so I tried discussing this with multiple people on multiple occassions and I never got a 'no' for per-device seeds, since this is a problem I tried solving since a while |
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[18:20] <sil2100> vorlon: we want to have an option to be able to freely add and remove packages during upgrades for people using our raspi images, as per the problem we had previously - installing them via livecd-rootfs is not very flexible as they're basically unmanaged by any means |
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[18:20] <sil2100> Like this one time when we wanted to migrate raspi beta users from raspi-firmware to linux-firmware-raspi |
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[18:21] <sil2100> I was asking: is there a reason we don't want per-device seeds? Since the other way to do it would be creating a separate raspi-something package that would be the one managing raspi-specific deps, enabling us to add new packages when needed, remove some etc. |
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[18:21] <sil2100> But that's basically what we get now by having raspi specific seeds |
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[18:22] <sil2100> Anyway, not sure how to proceed here, I personally like the way of having raspi seeds, but I completely missed the whole situation that there is this main <-> restricted conflict |
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[18:23] <sil2100> So I'd be more inclined to maybe just get the raspi firmware bits pulled into main? |
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