| [00:36] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Welp guess not | |
| [00:39] <ubptgbot> Florence J. Thompson was added by: Florence J. Thompson | |
| [01:12] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> is this a mockup for an alternative launcher - or something else? | |
| [01:12] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> The i3 posts? No, that's i3. | |
| [01:13] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Hey @TotalSonic you can't just make me look like I'm crazy like that :P | |
| [01:14] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @TotalSonic you can't just make me look like I'm crazy like that :P], Sorry - meant to make a reply with my post and then realized it was just looking like it was random, so immediately deleted it. | |
| [01:16] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @Oxy Kali [<reply to media>], Is this a mock up for an alternative launcher/"home" for UT - or something else? | |
| [01:16] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Looks like an Android launcher | |
| [01:17] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> @UniversalSuperBox [Looks like an Android launcher], Yeah, with some of the "Suru" icons I guess. Kind of OT if so. | |
| [01:44] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @ItsMeShouko [@mateosalta can you please tell what changes were included in this?], No idea, probably just useragent ;p | |
| [01:48] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> @UniversalSuperBox [Ubuntu is still available, but the new default ringtone is UBports.], I prefer the UBports ringtone | |
| [01:49] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> Who made that once again? | |
| [01:49] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://soundcloud.com/outer-passage | |
| [01:50] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Voyager I pumps with headphones | |
| [02:34] <ubptgbot> <Florence J. Thompson> https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFV8fTVrbXO29cxHsA | |
| [04:00] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> People who know if you can somehow transfer the / home directory to the SDcard? otherwise the phone has little memory and I use SDcard only for UT ... I would like to somehow force the use of the memory card actively | |
| [04:08] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> in theory this is doable, dont know if anyone has succeasfully done it though | |
| [04:58] <ubptgbot> hwpplayer1 was added by: hwpplayer1 | |
| [04:59] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> I came back for contribution. I'm actively running servers and cloud infrastructures. | |
| [05:00] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> [Edit] I came back for contribution. I'm actively running servers and cloud infrastructures. And I'm still into Ubuntu Convergence as a software engineering model. Then i'll join core development channel in minutes. | |
| [06:03] <ubptgbot> <Danfro> Then welcome back. 👍'#contributors welcome'. | |
| [06:03] <ubptgbot> <Danfro> [Edit] Then welcome back.👍#contributors_welcome. | |
| [06:22] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> @Danfro [Then welcome back.👍#contributors_welcome.], I need some time but can i share an article by you for announcement ? | |
| [06:22] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> @Danfro [Then welcome back.👍#contributors_welcome.], [Edit] I need some time but can i share an article by you(Ubports) for announcement ? | |
| [06:23] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> @Danfro [Then welcome back.👍#contributors_welcome.], [Edit] I need some time but can i share an article by you(Ubports) for announcement ? … Maybe i just should say Collaboration with Ubports Community When it is okay to say that | |
| [06:29] <ubptgbot> <Danfro> I am not the right one to decide on that. Maybe show @flohack or @universalsuperbox your article and get some feedback there. | |
| [07:19] <ubptgbot> <YougoChats> @Shakendo [in theory this is doable, dont know if anyone has succeasfully done it though], doesnt MTP mode use some symlink shenanigans to expose only certain folders? moving /home might break that | |
| [08:26] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/rlI8oCZp.txt | |
| [08:28] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @YougoChats [doesnt MTP mode use some symlink shenanigans to expose only certain folders? mov …], MTP (build bug) still doesn't work for me, so it's not so scary | |
| [08:39] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> (Photo, 720x1520) https://irc.ubports.com/Aa54I6j0.png | |
| [08:39] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> MMMMM the tastiest a little dumb and incomprehensible mistakes in the studio) | |
| [08:40] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> It's strange why he cannot create this link | |
| [08:53] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> I came up with a brilliant idea .... In general, why did I need a port at all ... Because I wanted to use ISODrive and so that I would always have a tool in case of something ... And I thought that it seems in all Linux systems you can change the mount point ... And I ended up clearing the Downloads folder and through SSH I jus | |
| [08:53] <ubptgbot> t changed the mount point ... Finally, when I go to the Download folder, I get to the memory card .... Brilliant and safe | |
| [09:42] <ubptgbot> <wadejbeckett> Anyone know if/when ubuntu touch will be stable for fairphone 3 | |
| [09:46] <ubptgbot> <jonny> @wadejbeckett [Anyone know if/when ubuntu touch will be stable for fairphone 3], Only way to find out is to find the porter and ask him, I guess. | |
| [10:13] <ubptgbot> <geekyneo> Can contacts from NextCloud/OwnCloud be imported to UT device(oneplus3 in my case)..? | |
| [10:19] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> you'll have to export them as vcf files, and import those - OR run direct-on-syncevolution commands in terminal (i recommend the first) | |
| [10:23] <ubptgbot> <hwpplayer1> I need to learn what is the situation of Ubports Turkey group | |
| [10:31] <ubptgbot> <geekyneo> @rogieroudshoorn [you'll have to export them as vcf files, and import those - OR run direct-on-syn …], Thanks...👍 | |
| [11:24] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @im_not_dead_seiwer [<reply to media>], My router supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands and I've found that my N5 sometimes has trouble with the latter. So you may also find that you need to stick with the 2.4GHz WiFi connection. | |
| [11:27] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @imraniqbal [My router supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands and I've found that my N5 sometime …], Well, because I have a portable router (with a battery) and I do not have devices with 5Ghz support, then I already have 2.4 according to the standard | |
| [11:29] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> Probably a WiFi connection that's prone to dropping intermittently. | |
| [11:30] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> Also no ... Now everything is connected, and yesterday everything was fine, but today UT is swearing at me without even trying to connect | |
| [11:31] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Also no ... Now everything is connected, and yesterday everything was fine, but …], (connect to site i mean) | |
| [11:31] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> Not sure, perhaps someone else has a suggestion. Perhaps mention what device you're having problems with. | |
| [11:33] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @imraniqbal [Not sure, perhaps someone else has a suggestion. Perhaps mention what device yo …], The device Redmi 7. Problems with the Internet began in the morning, at first it was not so noticeable, but as the day progressed, the dumps were getting stronger and stronger ... At the moment, no site is loading (except Teleports | |
| [11:33] <ubptgbot> ) and gives this error | |
| [11:34] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> By the way, surprisingly, all clients that do not use a browser for work work, oddly enough ... But all Webapps and applications using the browser already work either once ... or do not show signs of life at all | |
| [11:36] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @im_not_dead_seiwer [By the way, surprisingly, all clients that do not use a browser for work work, o …], So the problem is in QTWebEngine and in the Morph browser in particular | |
| [11:51] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> Redmi Note 7 (lavender) is now available in the installer. https://twitter.com/DanctNIX/status/1334102491575640065 | |
| [11:56] <ubptgbot> <abiomass> @im_not_dead_seiwer [<reply to media>], I'm having the same issue here on Mi A3 gsi. It's limited to morph, everything else works properly. | |
| [12:03] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @im_not_dead_seiwer [The device Redmi 7. Problems with the Internet began in the morning, at first it …], Disable uadblock and see if the problem persists | |
| [12:04] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @abiomass [I'm having the same issue here on Mi A3 gsi. It's limited to morph, everything e …], Do you use uadblock? | |
| [12:04] <ubptgbot> <abiomass> @Fuseteam [Disable uadblock and see if the problem persists], Still persists | |
| [12:06] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Disabled but persists hmmmmm sounds like device specific problem than, perhaps contact the porter | |
| [12:07] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Fuseteam [Disable uadblock and see if the problem persists], uAdBlock is off, the problem remains .... I'll probably try to flash the "persist.img" file now .... Let's see if it will fix the half-working Internet | |
| [12:10] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> The wut now | |
| [12:14] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @RealDanct12 [Redmi Note 7 (lavender) is now available in the installer. https://twitter.com/D …], Awesome! so many devices now 😄 | |
| [12:15] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> i've released like 3 devices this year to the installer | |
| [12:15] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> one device port (fxtec pro1) wasnt developed by me but rather multiple people and all i did was putting it into the installer :D | |
| [12:16] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> and we thank you for that | |
| [12:16] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I may or may not have an fxtec pro1 x in the future so thank you 😄 | |
| [12:18] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> 🎵 what's done is done and nothing's gonna change 🎵 | |
| [12:19] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> so it'll be always in the installer :) | |
| [12:19] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> [Edit] so it'll always be in the installer :) | |
| [12:22] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> Strangely, the firmware of the file that fixes everything here did not help ... | |
| [12:34] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> @YougoChats [doesnt MTP mode use some symlink shenanigans to expose only certain folders? mov …], thats why its possible in theory, I homestly dont know if anyone has ever actually tried it though | |
| [12:37] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> The home directory is actually already bindmounted to /userdata fwiw | |
| [12:37] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> Had to reinstall the system .... And the magic .... Everything works | |
| [12:38] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> .......did you make changes in the rootfs or something? Lol | |
| [12:43] <ubptgbot> <Nagendra> @RealDanct12 [Redmi Note 7 (lavender) is now available in the installer. https://twitter.com/D …], Wow ,can't wait to try this . Thank you for your work @RealDanct12 | |
| [13:33] <ubptgbot> ZiLot was added by: ZiLot | |
| [13:38] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> do we have blocking issues on devel? my RC channel hasn't updated since late october ... | |
| [14:00] <ubptgbot> <J H> question: … can we install another Terminal (more lightweight) ? I have tried qterm and xterm but the keybord doesn not appear. | |
| [14:02] <ubptgbot> <ZiLot> Hello guys, … I was wondering if UBport had somewhere a webpage that sums up the current state of each devices, what's working and what's not, kind of like what PostmarketOS has on their wiki, or like what volla did on their github ? … https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/wiki/High-level-epic-overview-for-Ubuntu-Touch-por | |
| [14:02] <ubptgbot> t | |
| [14:04] <ubptgbot> <ZiLot> [Edit] Hello guys, … I was wondering if UBports had somewhere a webpage that sums up the current state of each devices, what's working and what's not, kind of like what PostmarketOS has on their wiki, or like what volla did on their github ? … https://github.com/HelloVolla/ubuntu-touch-beta-tests/wiki/High-level-epic-overview-for-Ubuntu-T | |
| [14:04] <ubptgbot> ouch-port | |
| [14:05] <ubptgbot> <electimon> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ | |
| [14:08] <ubptgbot> <ZiLot> yeah I know about this page, it's obviously the first thing you find, but I was looking for more details | |
| [14:16] <ubptgbot> <NotKit> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/santoni/ - it has support for doing that, but not many people did such pages | |
| [14:20] <ubptgbot> <ZiLot> oh I see, thank you. I didn't checked all pages | |
| [14:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @J H [question: … can we install another Terminal (more lightweight) ? I have tried qte …], in libertine? | |
| [14:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn [do we have blocking issues on devel? my RC channel hasn't updated since late oct …], no.what device? | |
| [14:29] <ubptgbot> <J H> @dohbee [in libertine?], yes | |
| [14:30] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @J H [yes], try the xfce terminal | |
| [14:30] <ubptgbot> <J H> i did with Xterm | |
| [14:30] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> @dohbee [no.what device?], krillin | |
| [14:33] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @J H [i did with Xterm], that's not the xfce term | |
| [14:33] <ubptgbot> <J H> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/lFKRbxE0.png | |
| [14:34] <ubptgbot> <J H> i installedvthe armhf.deb | |
| [14:35] <ubptgbot> <J H> the terminal appears but not the virtual keybord | |
| [14:35] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn [krillin], it seems there has been a problem with rc image promotion, but the CI jobs are succeeding | |
| [14:35] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @J H [the terminal appears but not the virtual keybord], ok. not sure why keyboard isn't opening | |
| [14:36] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> Right. Do i need to raise something on githublab? | |
| [14:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn [Right. Do i need to raise something on githublab?], no | |
| [14:36] <ubptgbot> <J H> i have tried Qterm, same pbm | |
| [14:36] <ubptgbot> <rogieroudshoorn> 👍 | |
| [14:38] <ubptgbot> <J H> @dohbee [ok. not sure why keyboard isn't opening], thx for your help ☺ | |
| [17:53] <ubptgbot> a was added by: a | |
| [18:07] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> People, I'll ask an interesting question .... Make your top 10 applications from OpenStore ... And then I think what to put on a bare system and maybe I'll notice something to myself | |
| [18:08] <ubptgbot> <mrConLenov> @ubports Products from Patreon are currently being delivered? | |
| [18:10] <macc24> what's up with lomiri packagin in debian? | |
| [18:13] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [what's up with lomiri packagin in debian?], it's slow going. some illnesses and other things have slowed it down, but it's still ongoing work | |
| [18:13] <macc24> dohbee: oh okay | |
| [18:15] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [it's slow going. some illnesses and other things have slowed it down, but it's s …], (we will wait impatiently ... Still, it is much more beautiful than the same Gnome, I will be the first in line to fly directly to install lomiri;) ) | |
| [18:17] <macc24> im_not_dead_seiwer: no i will be first in line | |
| [18:17] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [it's slow going. some illnesses and other things have slowed it down, but it's s …], By the way, can you try it on ubuntu 20.04 now? Or so far there are no repositories that you could at least look at?) | |
| [18:17] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [By the way, can you try it on ubuntu 20.04 now? Or so far there are no repositor …], no | |
| [18:18] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @macc24 [im_not_dead_seiwer: no i will be first in line], It seems a great battle awaits us for the GREAT ARTIFACT ... For the deb package of chaos ... May there be a great carnage for the owner of this package | |
| [18:19] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @macc24 [im_not_dead_seiwer: no i will be first in line], [Edit] It seems a great battle awaits us for the GREAT ARTIFACT ... For the deb package of chaos ... May there be a great carnage for the owner of this package ;) | |
| [18:19] <macc24> or i can port ubports onyo my device... | |
| [18:20] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [no], Uuu sad ... Well ... We'll wait then .... And by the way, if you translate progress into percentages, how much percent do you think lomiri desktop is ready for? | |
| [18:21] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> 0.5% | |
| [18:21] <macc24> ._. | |
| [18:22] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/QyWvbBF3.webp | |
| [18:23] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> Life is pain .... Even UT itself became sad .... | |
| [18:27] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> I'm thinking .... But is it possible to install ubuntu 16.04, install unity8 on it ... But will x.org applications work there, or can I somehow make it work through crutches ... | |
| [18:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> Xmir would need to be used for xorg apps. it does not work well | |
| [18:28] <macc24> ummmm, mir? | |
| [18:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you can use `utqemu` snap to try | |
| [18:28] <macc24> it isn't dead? | |
| [18:29] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no, i don't know why people keep saying that | |
| [18:29] <macc24> oh | |
| [18:29] <macc24> does lomiri need opengl 3? | |
| [18:29] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> It turns out on a pc even on ubuntu 16.04, I just can't try this environment ... | |
| [18:30] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [does lomiri need opengl 3?], no? it only needs whatever QML needs | |
| [18:31] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [It turns out on a pc even on ubuntu 16.04, I just can't try this environment ...], you can boot the qemu image direct on hardware too i think, though i don't recall the specifics | |
| [18:33] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [you can boot the qemu image direct on hardware too i think, though i don't recal …], Honestly ... emulators of the quemu kind work very badly ... Especially if I have an extra hard disk, then it would be better for me to try out the environment on real hardware | |
| [18:34] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> qemu works fine for me. 🤷♀️ | |
| [18:34] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Honestly ... emulators of the quemu kind work very badly ... Especially if I hav …], So I'm thinking now how to start, if not lomiri, then at least unity8 .... I have an ubuntu 16.04 image with me | |
| [18:34] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> lomiri == unity8 | |
| [18:34] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [qemu works fine for me. 🤷♀️], Well, your characteristics are clearly better than mine, I think | |
| [18:36] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [lomiri == unity8], Well, as if lomiri, although a fork of unity 8, it will obviously be VERY strongly changed from the inside to work with wayland ... The similarity will be only externally | |
| [18:36] <macc24> is halium required for all devices? | |
| [18:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no | |
| [18:36] <macc24> even if device runs mainline stuff | |
| [18:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> lomiri is just we decided to rename unity8 | |
| [18:36] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [is halium required for all devices?], no. halium is for android based devices only. pinephone doesn't use it | |
| [18:37] <macc24> dohbee: ok, does ubports have some installer that runs on device itself when booted from something like sdcard to install to internal memory? | |
| [18:37] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [lomiri is just we decided to rename unity8], Um ... So it turns out I can still try out lomiri but only on ubuntu 16.04? Or I didn't understand something ... | |
| [18:38] <macc24> what are minimum requirements for build machine? | |
| [18:38] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Um ... So it turns out I can still try out lomiri but only on ubuntu 16.04? Or I …], It is very buggy | |
| [18:38] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @macc24 [what are minimum requirements for build machine?], 8 GB ram, 200 GB storage | |
| [18:38] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Normally | |
| [18:38] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Um ... So it turns out I can still try out lomiri but only on ubuntu 16.04? Or I …], the renaming is not fully complete. but as i said, there is an x86 image built for qemu that you can try | |
| [18:38] <macc24> 8gb ram as in bare minimum? | |
| [18:39] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @amyosx [It is very buggy], Well, this is understandable ... But I just want to look at him ... Maybe at the same time I'll dig something up during the test ... | |
| [18:39] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [dohbee: ok, does ubports have some installer that runs on device itself when boo …], which device? on android devices we have a recovery that runs a script to unpack the tarballs and put images on the correct partitions and such. on pinephone there is something similar called jumpdrive | |
| [18:39] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @macc24 [8gb ram as in bare minimum?], Yeah it'll be really slow with less | |
| [18:40] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, this is understandable ... But I just want to look at him ... Maybe at the …], Use the qemu image | |
| [18:40] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [what are minimum requirements for build machine?], what do you want to build? a full system image for an android based device? | |
| [18:40] <macc24> dohbee: i am thinking of porting ubports to a convertible chromebook, i got it working fine with mainline linux, but using sway on it is kinda pita | |
| [18:40] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Well, this is understandable ... But I just want to look at him ... Maybe at the …], you have UT running on a device yes? | |
| [18:41] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @amyosx [Use the qemu image], It turns out that I can only try it in the form of qemu so far? | |
| [18:41] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @im_not_dead_seiwer [It turns out that I can only try it in the form of qemu so far?], U can use virtualbox if u wish | |
| [18:41] <macc24> what's UT | |
| [18:41] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @im_not_dead_seiwer [It turns out that I can only try it in the form of qemu so far?], Its designed for qemu but would mount as a USB or hard drive in virtualbox | |
| [18:41] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [what's UT], Ubuntu Touch | |
| [18:41] <macc24> oh | |
| [18:41] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @macc24 [what's UT], Get out /s | |
| [18:42] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [you have UT running on a device yes?], It works on the phone ... But I liked lomiri so much that I really want to try it on a pc too | |
| [18:42] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [It works on the phone ... But I liked lomiri so much that I really want to try i …], what device? | |
| [18:43] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @amyosx [Its designed for qemu but would mount as a USB or hard drive in virtualbox], This is already much better because virtualbox has much better behavior on my pc than qemu, and I'm used to it | |
| [18:43] <macc24> is mesa fairly new in ubports rootfs? | |
| [18:43] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> no | |
| [18:43] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [what device?], Redmi 7 | |
| [18:44] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> or well, that's a weird way to phrase the question i guess. mesa has always been in the rootfs | |
| [18:45] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @im_not_dead_seiwer [It works on the phone ... But I liked lomiri so much that I really want to try i …], I think Lomiri on PC hasn't really been good. No ones really working on it as far as I know. But the work on making it work on other distros and moving to wayland would probably help on that. | |
| [18:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> in android rootfs it is mesa 18 (ie, what is in ubuntu 16.04). i think on pinephone it is newer because it's using all wayland stuff | |
| [18:45] <macc24> dohbee: to get mesa-git in ubports, do i have to compile it myself? what about mesa 20.2? | |
| [18:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [dohbee: to get mesa-git in ubports, do i have to compile it myself? what about m …], why do you think you need that? | |
| [18:45] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [Redmi 7], oh, nevermind then. but you can still cheat and force windowed mode on the device, though i guess it has no external display support | |
| [18:45] <macc24> because gpu on my device isn't supported in old mesa | |
| [18:46] <macc24> it's mali g72 | |
| [18:46] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [because gpu on my device isn't supported in old mesa], what device is it? an android device? | |
| [18:46] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Javacookies [I think Lomiri on PC hasn't really been good. No ones really working on it as fa …], It's very sad | |
| [18:46] <macc24> dohbee: lenovo chromebook duet with mt8183 soc | |
| [18:46] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> oh you want to port a chromebook? i don't know how that would even work | |
| [18:46] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> chromeos != android | |
| [18:47] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> and also not mainline | |
| [18:47] <macc24> it is mainline | |
| [18:47] <macc24> mainline-ish | |
| [18:47] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> can run mainline != mainline | |
| [18:47] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [oh, nevermind then. but you can still cheat and force windowed mode on the devic …], Well, I use it when I cheat UT so that YouTube does not stutter when the screen is off | |
| [18:47] <macc24> i have it running my fork of linux 5.10-rc4 | |
| [18:49] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/sarnold/chromebooks had a start once upon a time. | |
| [18:49] <ubptgbot> <UniversalSuperBox> Maybe not for that exact model, and I don't know if its UT build is up to date any more. | |
| [18:53] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> By the way, I have a question in my head gathering dust from the very moment of my first installation .... Who knows, but what is the circle on the lock screen for? It's just that the screenshots always display a greeting, weather, or missed calls in a circle ... But I always have this circle empty and I don't understand what i | |
| [18:53] <ubptgbot> t is for | |
| [18:53] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Install some apps, use them | |
| [18:54] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Youll get stuff | |
| [18:55] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @amyosx [Install some apps, use them], And what applications use this circle on the lock ... I did not put any number but it is always empty ... I would like that there at least a greeting displayed (I'm not talking about such a thing as a greeting and the weather is generally a dream ) | |
| [18:56] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @amyosx [Youll get stuff], Tell me such applications please | |
| [18:57] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Sudoku weather sms | |
| [18:57] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Cloud music | |
| [18:58] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> None of them use a circle .... The weather does not want to use at all (although it would be desirable) the others similarly ignore | |
| [18:58] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [And what applications use this circle on the lock ... I did not put any number b …], phone, camera, sms, fluffychat, music | |
| [18:58] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> the circle is actually kind of fun, the dots around the edge represent days of the month, the full dots are days gone through, empty are days left, the bubble part represent the various apps, like calls, texts, and so on | |
| [18:59] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [None of them use a circle .... The weather does not want to use at all (although …], it's for showing how you use your phone, not for displaying status notifications. | |
| [18:59] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the more you do a specific action on each day, the larger the bubbles for those days will be for that action | |
| [19:00] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> so if you do a lot of texting you will have a big "bubble" for that while say the calls one will be smaller | |
| [19:00] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> so after a while of use, you get an interesting data flower | |
| [19:00] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @Shakendo [the circle is actually kind of fun, the dots around the edge represent days of t …], So I somehow want to get these bubbles ... But I didn't know about the points ... I'll even show you how my screen looks now | |
| [19:00] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [So I somehow want to get these bubbles ... But I didn't know about the points .. …], put some music on your phone and play it. take some photos. | |
| [19:00] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> (Photo, 720x1520) https://irc.ubports.com/fFWQBO8F.png | |
| [19:01] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> just follow Rodneys advice and use it like a phone, for even an hour and you'll start to see stuff | |
| [19:01] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> though maybe on your device there is some apparmor issue or such too where it's not working properly | |
| [19:01] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> mine always looks like that, but Im always re-installing my device | |
| [19:01] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> @dohbee [though maybe on your device there is some apparmor issue or such too where it's …], entirely possible | |
| [19:02] <macc24> how long does ubports build take? | |
| [19:02] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> depends on the dev machine specs | |
| [19:02] <macc24> xeon x5460 with 8gb of ram | |
| [19:03] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> my laptop builds it in about an hour from fresh source to final product, other machines do it faster or slower | |
| [19:03] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> only way to really find out is to build it | |
| [19:03] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> it tells you how long it took when its done | |
| [19:04] <macc24> ok ill build it | |
| [19:04] <macc24> tomorrow | |
| [19:04] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [how long does ubports build take?], building android can take a while. ubports isn't something you build. you probably don't need to build ubuntu touch from source | |
| [19:04] <macc24> oh i would be building it without android | |
| [19:04] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> Im going under the assumption a device port was intended | |
| [19:04] <macc24> yes | |
| [19:04] <macc24> and the device doesn't run android | |
| [19:04] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> not the rootfs itself | |
| [19:05] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [and the device doesn't run android], is it arm64 or armhf? | |
| [19:05] <macc24> arm64 convertible with mt8183 soc | |
| [19:05] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> my word of advice is before you modify things like the kernel, just to to compile as is and make sure you have everything you need | |
| [19:06] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [arm64 convertible with mt8183 soc], just use the pinephone rootfs | |
| [19:06] <macc24> uhh, pinephone has entirely different hardware, unless everything is just compiled into kernel itself | |
| [19:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> the rootfs is arm64 mainline with newer mesa and mir to use wayland instead of mirclient | |
| [19:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> rootfs != kernel | |
| [19:07] <macc24> okay | |
| [19:07] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> rpi image uses that same rootfs iirc | |
| [19:07] <ubptgbot> <Shakendo> the kernel is in your halium-boot (or whatever is built with pinephone) file | |
| [19:11] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> (Photo, 720x1520) https://irc.ubports.com/Q00qMZ2N.png | |
| [19:11] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> The real thing is starting to scare me with such an ignore .... I took 10 photos this way while listening to music and .... And ignore .... It's strange what is wrong ... Maybe the system is killing the process responsible for it .... Hmmmm | |
| [19:11] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> probably apparmor | |
| [19:11] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> you are not using a fully supported device | |
| [19:14] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> That's why I don't like GSI firmware) Hmm, it's strange what is not supported in it .... Although .... Instead of halium system.img, we use the system that stood before that (and before that I had android 11) .... Maybe you also need to port a special system .img .... Because the kernel is what we have | |
| [19:15] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> has nothing to do with GSI itself. it needs developer to finish the porting work | |
| [19:17] <macc24> is software renderer included in pinephone image? | |
| [19:17] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [has nothing to do with GSI itself. it needs developer to finish the porting work], And the developer has hammered a bolt on ubports, so I probably will have to transfer everything: (..... … Then I wonder what exactly has not yet been transferred and what approximately needs to be done | |
| [19:18] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [is software renderer included in pinephone image?], what do you mean? | |
| [19:19] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> New butterfly icon and splash screen for Morph browser in RC update today. Seems the only core apps left for splashscreen updates are Camera and File Manager. | |
| [19:19] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @im_not_dead_seiwer [And the developer has hammered a bolt on ubports, so I probably will have to tra …], not sure, but the best place for those questions would be https://t.me/UBports_porting | |
| [19:19] <macc24> dohbee: is swrast/llvmpipe gallium driver included in that image? | |
| [19:19] <ubptgbot> <im_not_dead_seiwer> @dohbee [what do you mean?], Probably whether the GPU is used there for work or all the graphics go to the CPU | |
| [19:19] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @macc24 [dohbee: is swrast/llvmpipe gallium driver included in that image?], i guess so? i don't know if it will work though | |
| [19:37] <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Just throwing this out there... is anyone here based in the Vancouver Island, or perhaps the Lower Mainland regions of BC, Canada, and also good with repairing phone USB ports? | |
| [19:38] <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> I now have two Meizu Pro 5's which are nigh-on impossible to charge. Gonna have to (try to) resurrect my MX4 for the time being. Not comfortable getting a Volla phone quite yet, as Black Friday was ripe with expenses and I haven't yet received government benefits for my temporary layoff. | |
| [19:39] <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Plus, the uncertainty about importing it to North America. | |
| [19:42] <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> Probably one of the best outcomes I can hope for is another charge on my current MP5 and then using that to screenshot the list of apps, podcasts etc for reference for a future device. | |
| [21:53] <ubptgbot> RedFox3 was added by: RedFox3 | |
| [21:54] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Hello guys! What is this group for? | |
| [22:04] <macc24> RedFox3: it's for ubports | |
| [22:19] <ubptgbot> <nsensfel> Just finished compiling Firefox (version 83) in a prefix. For anyone wondering, it cannot be used with the available Wayland interfaces directly: it reports that the "wl_compositor" interface is version 3 and that version 4 is required. Using Weston as an intermediary compositor does solve the issue, but doesn't give the same feeling of | |
| [22:19] <ubptgbot> smartphone/pc convergence as one could hope for. | |
| [22:29] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> @macc24 [RedFox3: it's for ubports], OK, I have an issue. I use Redmi Note 7 with ubports_gsi_v9 | |
| [22:30] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> First of all adb cant see my device | |
| [22:30] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Secondly mtp doesn't work | |
| [22:31] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Device connects like "Network connection 2" in my Arch Linux | |
| [22:32] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> And of course, I cant uncheck developer mode | |
| [22:32] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> It switchs on after reboot | |
| [22:38] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Which is real ubports installer repo? https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer | https://gitlab.com/ubports/installer ? | |
| [22:40] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> Github | |
| [22:41] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> The gitlab you linked is not a repo | |
| [22:43] <ubptgbot> fablerNondyspeptically was added by: fablerNondyspeptically | |
| [22:54] <ubptgbot> Alessandro Martella was added by: Alessandro Martella | |
| [22:58] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @RedFox3 [OK, I have an issue. I use Redmi Note 7 with ubports_gsi_v9], lavender? use UBports Installer instead to install Ubuntu Touch | |
| [22:59] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> @dohbee [lavender? use UBports Installer instead to install Ubuntu Touch], Yup, okay, I will try it | |
| [23:00] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Is there many difference? | |
| [23:04] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> @RedFox3 [Is there many difference?], you get official updates depends on which channel you select (preferably devel) | |
| [23:05] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> and also works better | |
| [23:05] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Okay, thanks. So, I flash lineage os 16 right now | |
| [23:05] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> And after use UBports installer | |
| [23:05] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> you shouldn't need to flash LOS 16 | |
| [23:05] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> but if you're coming from android, you do need to wipe all data | |
| [23:06] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> there is a checkbox you need to select during install | |
| [23:06] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> or installation will fail | |
| [23:06] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Developer mode doesn't work in GSI UT | |
| [23:07] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> So I flash LOS | |
| [23:07] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> To get adb work | |
| [23:07] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> you don't have to | |
| [23:07] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> LOS and GSI is unrelated with the ubports installer vers | |
| [23:08] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> just download the installer, select your device and reboot to fastboot | |
| [23:08] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @RedFox3 [Developer mode doesn't work in GSI UT], because you've installed it with rndis enabled instead | |
| [23:08] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> just install with the installer | |
| [23:09] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> you need the latest ubports installer also (currently it's 0.8.0-beta) | |
| [23:10] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> @RealDanct12 [you need the latest ubports installer also (currently it's 0.8.0-beta)], Okay | |
| [23:11] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> I have a problem | |
| [23:12] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> I'm using Arch and the easiest way to get UB installer is AppImage | |
| [23:12] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> And it's 0.7.4 beta | |
| [23:12] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Is it okay? | |
| [23:13] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> 0.8.0-beta is available on here: https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/releases/tag/0.8.0-beta | |
| [23:14] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Oh, github redirected me to wrong version | |
| [23:14] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Thank you very much! | |
| [23:16] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Choose devel channel? | |
| [23:17] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> recommend devel | |
| [23:17] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Ok | |
| [23:18] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Error: fastboot:format: Error: formatting failed: Error: {"error":{"code":1,"cmd":"fastboot format system"},"stderr":"< waiting for any device >\nFAILED (remote: 'unknown command')\nfastboot: error: Command failed"} | |
| [23:18] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> You need to boot to fastboot, is it not? | |
| [23:18] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> It's in fastboot | |
| [23:19] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> Hmm, I guess the firmware version is a bit old which doesn't have fastboot format | |
| [23:19] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> Try get the latest one from xiaomi firmware updater | |
| [23:20] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> A bit oversight there ^ | |
| [23:21] <ubptgbot> <RedFox3> Weekly or stable? | |
| [23:24] <ubptgbot> <RealDanct12> I suggest stable and make sure it's your device region | |