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| [01:49] <KGB-0> gnome-shell Daniel van Vugt 205714 * commented merge request !43 * https://deb.li/umX2 | |
| [05:56] <jibel> Good morning all | |
| [06:05] <duflu> Morning jibel | |
| [06:42] <didrocks> good morning | |
| [06:45] <duflu> Hi didrocks | |
| [06:48] <duflu> And hi oSoMoN | |
| [06:48] <didrocks> hey duflu | |
| [06:48] <oSoMoN> hi duflu & desktoppers | |
| [06:49] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks | |
| [06:49] <didrocks> et oSoMoN :) | |
| [06:52] <jibel> Hi duflu didrocks oSoMoN | |
| [06:53] <oSoMoN> salut jibel | |
| [07:04] <didrocks> salut jibel | |
| [07:06] <seb128> goood morning desktopers | |
| [07:06] <oSoMoN> salut seb128 | |
| [07:06] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? | |
| [07:07] <jibel> salut seb128 | |
| [07:07] <seb128> lut jibel, en forme aujourd'hui ? | |
| [07:10] <jibel> seb128, oui bien, comme d'habitude :) et toi? | |
| [07:10] <duflu> Morning seb128 | |
| [07:10] <seb128> jibel, ça va aussi :) | |
| [07:10] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you? | |
| [07:12] <duflu> seb128, frustrated. My phone died today and with it most contact with my family. I'm just waiting for the local stores to get stock now :/ | |
| [07:12] <duflu> How are you seb128? | |
| [07:12] <seb128> :-( | |
| [07:12] <seb128> I'm alright! | |
| [07:12] <seb128> are you trying to get the phone fixed or just getting a new one? | |
| [07:13] <duflu> seb128, the old one refuses to restore and is out of warranty, so a new one it will be | |
| [07:13] <seb128> k | |
| [07:34] <oSoMoN> seb128, on fait aller | |
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| [09:02] <Laney> yo | |
| [09:02] <seb128> hey Laney , how are you? | |
| [09:04] <duflu> Hi Laney | |
| [09:06] <tjaalton> fedora will create a separate xwayland package which tracks xorg-server tip in order to get new features more quickly. do we want that too? | |
| [09:06] <tjaalton> builds only the xwayland binary | |
| [09:06] <tjaalton> and since it doesn't use any of the abi stuff, is compatible with xserver 1.20 | |
| [09:10] <seb128> tjaalton, do you know what sort of feature we are talking about? | |
| [09:11] <tjaalton> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XwaylandStandalone#Benefit_to_Fedora | |
| [09:11] <Laney> hey seb128 duflu | |
| [09:12] <Laney> yeah I'm doing ok, get to have a chocolate from the advent calendar later 🎅 | |
| [09:13] <Laney> you? | |
| [09:13] <seb128> I should get one of those calendars :) | |
| [09:13] <seb128> I'm alright! | |
| [09:13] <Laney> interesting, that xwayland change looks like it brings some nice features | |
| [09:16] <seb128> tjaalton, seems it would be interesting to us as well, you probably also have an opinion as the xorg maintainer between beeing request to backport improvements to the xserver or have a separate source? | |
| [09:16] <tjaalton> separate source is easier | |
| [09:16] <seb128> duflu, ^ you might also have an opinion on the topic | |
| [09:17] <seb128> tjaalton, I would say to go for the separate source then | |
| [09:18] <Laney> just got to remember to refresh it every now and then ;-) | |
| [09:18] <duflu> seb128, yeah it's probably better for us to snapshot the "unstable" Xwayland source if it's that much better | |
| [09:19] <duflu> We do our own stabilization by snapshotting features only 6-monthly | |
| [10:01] <seb128> jamesh, hey, weekly summary post reminder :-) | |
| [13:57] <luna_> good afternoon desktoppers | |
| [13:57] <oSoMoN> good afternoon luna_ | |
| [13:58] <luna_> having a bit of a headache but will attend the meeting also oSoMoN Thunderbird 78.5.1 is released today | |
| [13:58] <luna_> and a new Firefox beta tommorow with the actual release being 16th December | |
| [14:00] <oSoMoN> thanks for the heads up | |
| [14:25] <luna_> ### Meeting in 5 minutes ### | |
| [14:27] <hellsworth> good morning d | |
| [14:27] <hellsworth> esktoper | |
| [14:29] <marcustomlinson> s | |
| [14:30] <hellsworth> :) thanks marcustomlinson for completing my sentence | |
| [14:30] <marcustomlinson> :D | |
| [14:30] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-12-01 | |
| [14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Dec 1 14:30:35 2020 UTC. The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | |
| [14:30] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | |
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| [14:30] <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | |
| [14:30] <hellsworth> o/ | |
| [14:30] <oSoMoN> o/ | |
| [14:30] <kenvandine> 🖖 | |
| [14:30] <marcustomlinson> \o | |
| [14:30] <Trevinho> o/ | |
| [14:31] <luna_> o/ (doing some KDE and Arch work) but will try to catch up reading | |
| [14:31] <seb128> k, let's get started | |
| [14:31] <didrocks999> o/ | |
| [14:31] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug | |
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| [14:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:32] <seb128> no desktop entry | |
| [14:32] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:32] <seb128> bug #1846699 | |
| [14:32] <ubot5> bug 1846699 in glibmm2.4 (Ubuntu Bionic) "Missing mechanism in Glibmm that prevents the support of some themes (CSS) in Gtkmm" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846699 | |
| [14:33] <seb128> some contributor added the bionic target | |
| [14:33] <seb128> I don't think it's a rls issue and it lacks a testcase & co | |
| [14:33] <seb128> I would vote to just untarget for now | |
| [14:33] <kenvandine> +1 | |
| [14:33] <didrocks999> agreed | |
| [14:34] <seb128> let's do that | |
| [14:35] <seb128> k, done and commented | |
| [14:35] <seb128> that's it for bionic | |
| [14:35] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug | |
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| [14:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:36] <seb128> nothing to review on that one | |
| [14:36] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:36] <seb128> bug #1905740 | |
| [14:37] <ubot5> bug 1905740 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Focal) "SRU the current 3.36.5 stable update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905740 | |
| [14:37] * luna_ is back | |
| [14:37] <seb128> I've been handling that one but forgot to assign, I will do that now | |
| [14:37] <seb128> the other one is a oem team request which is waiting for upstream review, we should probably accept it | |
| [14:38] <seb128> Trevinho, I will asign to you to cherry pick once upstream accept it | |
| [14:38] <Trevinho> ok | |
| [14:38] <seb128> thx | |
| [14:39] <seb128> that's it for focal | |
| [14:39] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug | |
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| [14:39] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:39] <luna_> a bluetooth on Raspberry Pi bug and a nautlius bug | |
| [14:39] <seb128> (sorry the reports are slow to load for me today for some reason, I get the frame but not the content, need to refresh several times) | |
| [14:39] <seb128> ah, finally loaded | |
| [14:39] <luna_> 15:39 < seb128> (sorry the reports are slow to load for me today for some reason, I get the frame but not the content, need to refresh several times) | |
| [14:39] <seb128> luna_, thx :p | |
| [14:39] <luna_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/1905627 | |
| [14:39] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1905627 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth stops working on Raspberry Pi 4 with bluez 5.55-0ubuntu1.1 " [High,New] | |
| [14:40] <luna_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons/+bug/1898462 | |
| [14:40] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1898462 in gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons (Ubuntu) "[groovy] Drag and drop files from Desktop to Nautilus freezes gnome-shell" [High,Triaged] | |
| [14:40] <seb128> the first one should be owned by foundations, I will follow up with them | |
| [14:40] <seb128> since they did the changes | |
| [14:40] <didrocks999> agreed | |
| [14:41] <seb128> the other one I tagged, shell locks are annoying | |
| [14:42] <oSoMoN> sounds like something we should accept | |
| [14:43] <seb128> if there is agreement I will assign to duflu | |
| [14:43] <seb128> Trevinho already has enough on his plate (not that Daniel isn't also busy...) | |
| [14:43] <oSoMoN> the bug doesn't say whether hirsute is also affected, unless I missed something? | |
| [14:44] <luna_> 19.04, 19.10 and 20.10 is what i found in the launchpad bugs | |
| [14:44] <oSoMoN> presumably it is, but it would be good to clarify | |
| [14:44] <luna_> could login to GNOME on my Hirsute after the meeting and test | |
| [14:45] <seb128> right, I expect it is since our shell stack didn't change yet | |
| [14:45] <seb128> luna_, thanks | |
| [14:45] <seb128> that's it for incoming | |
| [14:45] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:45] <seb128> bug #1902044 is for me | |
| [14:45] <ubot5> bug 1902044 in deja-dup (Ubuntu Groovy) "SRU the current 42.5 stable update " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1902044 | |
| [14:46] <seb128> bug #1903574 we rejected but forgot to untarget | |
| [14:46] <ubot5> bug 1903574 in appstream (Ubuntu Groovy) "isenkram-lookup crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903574 | |
| [14:46] <seb128> and that's it | |
| [14:46] <seb128> #topic rls-hh-bug | |
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| [14:46] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:47] <seb128> bug #1905422 | |
| [14:47] <ubot5> bug 1905422 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "CoinMP Solver not Available, option requires coinmp to be promoted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1905422 | |
| [14:47] <seb128> oSoMoN, you tagged that one? | |
| [14:47] <luna_> same Bluetooth on Raspberry Pi bug and some library used in Libreoffice Calc | |
| [14:47] <oSoMoN> I did | |
| [14:48] <seb128> it doesn't feel like a release issue or an important target to me | |
| [14:48] <seb128> or do you think it's an important feature for a class of users? | |
| [14:48] <oSoMoN> I'm not sure tbh | |
| [14:48] <seb128> I'm not really familiar with coinMP | |
| [14:48] <oSoMoN> but I felt it was interesting to bring up for consideration | |
| [14:48] <seb128> right | |
| [14:48] <hellsworth> i really don't have coinmp familiarity either but i could start with the dependencies and list of bugs as oSoMoN suggested | |
| [14:49] <seb128> I think we should MIR if possible, one delta to remove and a feature parity added | |
| [14:49] <hellsworth> maybe not rls material though? | |
| [14:49] <seb128> but -1 for rls | |
| [14:49] <oSoMoN> I'm fine with untagging it, but I think that in any case we should investigate a bit further | |
| [14:49] <hellsworth> agreed | |
| [14:49] <seb128> +1 | |
| [14:49] <seb128> k, let's do that | |
| [14:49] <luna_> https://github.com/coin-or/CoinMP | |
| [14:49] <seb128> I think it's easy enough to just write the MIR | |
| [14:49] <oSoMoN> maybe check whether LO can be built with coinmp support, but have it as an optional dep? | |
| [14:49] <hellsworth> i just assigned myself | |
| [14:49] <seb128> or that | |
| [14:50] <seb128> thx | |
| [14:51] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:51] <seb128> nothing to review which we haven't already talked about there | |
| [14:51] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | |
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| [14:51] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | |
| [14:52] <seb128> the list is getting smaller which is nice | |
| [14:52] <seb128> the sphinx failure probably needs investigating | |
| [14:52] <seb128> anyone wanting to give it a try? | |
| [14:53] <seb128> I will card it on the trello, if there is a volunteer please grab it, otherwise we will assign | |
| [14:54] <seb128> colord build failure on s390x is an endian issue according to RAOF who is the Debian maintainer, we will let it to him for now | |
| [14:55] <seb128> other items are either things blocked on transition or new ones or flacky I think | |
| [14:55] <oSoMoN> seb128, there's a newer sphinx in the release pocket already | |
| [14:55] <seb128> let's revisit those that are still there next week | |
| [14:56] <seb128> oSoMoN, ah, let me retrigger see if that's enough to make thing happy, thx for noticing | |
| [14:56] <seb128> or looks like doko did some of that and it's green | |
| [14:57] <seb128> so hopefully it's resolved | |
| [14:57] <seb128> k, let's move on | |
| [14:57] <seb128> #topic AOB | |
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| [14:57] <luna_> Wondering about the Daily Hirsute builds, some days it only builds ARM64 and not AMD64 is that expected? | |
| [14:57] <seb128> one topic from me, I sent an email but also mentioning it, please review your trello cards and get them updated | |
| [14:58] <seb128> luna_, there was a bug in one of the ISO building jobs which we fixed earlier today, amd64 image is back now | |
| [14:58] <luna_> seb128: ah alright cool :) | |
| [14:58] <seb128> np! | |
| [14:58] <seb128> @trello, please update your cards by eow, after that I will personally bag you until it's done :) | |
| [14:58] <seb128> any other topic? | |
| [14:59] <luna_> yep its up in 2 minutes on the mirror i use thanks :) | |
| [14:59] <oSoMoN> seb128, ack | |
| [14:59] <seb128> alright, if there is no other topic it's a wrap | |
| [14:59] <seb128> #endmeeting | |
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| [14:59] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Dec 1 14:59:56 2020 UTC. | |
| [14:59] <meetingology> Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-12-01-14.30.moin.txt | |
| [14:59] <seb128> thanks everyone! | |
| [14:59] <didrocks999> thanks! | |
| [14:59] <Trevinho> ouch | |
| [15:00] <luna_> thanks | |
| [15:00] <marcustomlinson> bag or nag? ;) | |
| [15:00] <oSoMoN> thanks | |
| [15:00] <Trevinho> well I wanted to ask about https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/removal-of-gnome-shell-extension-from-universe-and-stop-auto-syncs/18437/4 | |
| [15:00] <oSoMoN> nag in a bag | |
| [15:00] <seb128> marcustomlinson, lol, I can arrange a bag no worry ;) | |
| [15:00] <Trevinho> if someone can have a look at that | |
| [15:01] <seb128> Trevinho, I will card it and handle, basically I was waiting for .7 to be uploaded to follow with the SRU team about the testing plan and sort that as well | |
| [15:01] <Trevinho> seb128: sure, this is for hirsute though | |
| [15:01] <Trevinho> even though there are a list of extensions that should be allowed | |
| [15:02] <Trevinho> probably best way is to search which one is comfing from a source package != the extension itself | |
| [15:02] <seb128> Trevinho, right, not hurry there though, but we need to revisit the list, jbicha pointed out that some need integration and make sense as a deb | |
| [15:02] <seb128> also | |
| [15:02] <Trevinho> yes | |
| [15:02] <Trevinho> that's why I wrote the above sentence | |
| [15:08] <luna_> drag and drop from the desktop to nautlius hangs on yesterdays hirsute build too | |
| [15:10] <Laney> kill the desktop icons! | |
| [15:10] <Laney> put a game there instead | |
| [15:10] <Laney> (lander) | |
| [15:10] <luna_> Laney: :P | |
| [15:11] <marcustomlinson> I tried dragging a game to nautlius, hangs as well | |
| [15:12] <Laney> you could render the filesystem as the environment in the game | |
| [15:12] <Laney> have to land on a program to execute it | |
| [15:12] <Laney> or shoot stuff to delete | |
| [15:12] <Laney> this is a great idea /me goes to find a VC | |
| [15:13] <marcustomlinson> with a 60s countdown to complete the game otherwise the disk is formatted | |
| [15:13] <Laney> bloody hell | |
| [15:14] <luna_> seb128: its broken in hirsute too | |
| [15:14] * Laney makes a note to review marcustomlinson's feature ideas :> | |
| [15:14] <seb128> luna_, thanks for confirming | |
| [15:14] <Laney> [harsh mode] | |
| [15:15] <luna_> gonna try to rest away my headache now, but cya next week again | |
| [15:29] <seb128> luna_, oh, get better! | |
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