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[01:31] <soyeomul> κΎΈλ²…
[01:31] <soyeomul> Cμ–Έμ–΄ μ§ˆλ¬Έμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
[01:32] <soyeomul> μ•„μΉ¨λΆ€ν„° λ¨Έλ¦¬μ§€λˆν•œ 질문 μ£„μ†‘ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€
[01:33] <soyeomul> λ™μ μœΌλ‘œ 배열을 ν• λ‹Ήν• λ•Œ 포인터λ₯Ό 쓰더이닀.. λ™μ λ°°μ—΄λ‘œ ν• λ‹Ήλœ λ°°μ—΄μ˜ 크기λ₯Ό sizeof() 둜 μ°μ–΄λ³΄λ‹ˆ 계속 8만 λ‚˜μ˜€λ”λΌκ΅¬μš” μ²˜μŒλΆ€ν„° λκΉŒμ§€ 8을 μœ μ§€ν•˜λŠ”λ°...
[01:33] <soyeomul> μ‹€μ œ λ°°μ—΄μ˜ 길이λ₯Ό κ΅¬ν•˜λ €λ©΄ μ–΄λ–€ 방법이 μžˆλ‚˜μš”
[01:33] <soyeomul> 음..
[01:38] <lex__> μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”
[01:39] <soyeomul> https://gitlab.com/soyeomul/test/-/raw/ea60b6c0b509e2312aaf98153e99614419702837/test
[01:39] <soyeomul> λ ‰μŠ€λ‹˜ μ–΄μ†Œμ„Έμš”~!
[01:39] <lex__> μ†Œμ—¬λ¬Όλ‹˜ μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”
[01:40] <soyeomul> ^^ λ ‰μŠ€λ‹˜ 쒋은 μ•„μΉ¨μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€
[01:40] <lex__> λ„€. 쒋은 μ•„μΉ¨μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.^^
[01:40] <soyeomul> 그라섀라무넀 λ™μ μœΌλ‘œ ν• λ‹Ήλœ λ°°μ—΄μ˜ μ§„μ§œ 크기λ₯Ό κ΅¬ν•˜κ³  μ‹Άμ–΄μ„œ μ΄λ ‡κ²Œ μ§ˆλ¬Έμ„ λ“œλ¦¬λ„€μš”
[01:41] <soyeomul> λ‘œλ˜λŠ” 잘 λ˜μ–΄κ°€μ‹œλ‚˜μš”~
[01:41] <soyeomul> ν•©ν•©ν•©
[01:41] <lex__> λ‘œλ˜λŠ” 잘 λŒμ•„κ°€μ§€λ§Œ ν•˜μ§„ μ•Šμ•„μš”. γ…Žγ…Ž
[01:42] <soyeomul> γ…Ž;
[01:42] <lex__> μ „ 운적인 뢀뢄이 잘 μ•ˆλ˜κ±°λ“ μš”.
[01:42] <soyeomul> λ ‰μŠ€λ‹˜ ν˜Ήμ‹œ malloc μ¨λ³΄μ…¨λ‚˜μš”;;
[01:42] <soyeomul> Cμ–Έμ–΄μ—μ„œμš” 배열을 λ™μ μœΌλ‘œ μ‘°μ •ν•˜λŠ”κ±°μš”
[01:42] <lex__> 기얡이 μ•ˆλ‚˜μš”. γ… γ… 
[01:43] <soyeomul> ν¬μΈν„°λŠ” 크기가 μ™œ 항상 κ³ μ •μΈκ°€μš”
[01:46] <lex__> Cμ–Έμ–΄λ₯Ό μ–Έμ œ λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰μœΌλ‘œ ν•΄λ΄€λŠ”μ§€ κΈ°μ–΅μ‘°μ°¨ μ•ˆλ‚˜μš”. γ…Žγ…Ž
[01:47] <soyeomul`> μ–΄λœ¨
[01:47] <soyeomul`> μžλ™ μž¬μ ‘ν–ˆλ„€μš”~
[01:51] <soyeomul`> malloc 에 λŒ€ν•˜μ—¬ 더이상 μ—°κ΅¬ν•˜μ§€ λ§λΌλŠ” ν•˜λŠ˜μ˜ μ‘°μ–ΈμΈκ°€λ°”μš”
[01:51] <lex__> μ„€λ§ˆμš”. γ…Žγ…Žγ…Ž
[01:51] <soyeomul`> μ†‘μ•„μ§€λ‚˜ 잘 μ‚΄νŽ΄μ•Όμ§€μš” λ†μ‚¬κΎΌμ˜ μˆ™λͺ…
[01:51] <lex__> μ†‘μ•„μ§€λŠ” 직업! 코딩은 μ·¨λ―Έ!
[01:51] <soyeomul`> 였늘 νƒœμ–΄λ‚¬μ–΄μš” μƒˆλ²½μ—
[01:51] <soyeomul`> γ…Ž
[01:51] <lex__> 였. μΆ•ν•˜λ“œλ €μš”.
[01:52] <soyeomul`> ν•˜μ—¬κ°„ 총 123두.
[01:52] <soyeomul`> κ°€ λ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”~
[01:52] <lex__> μ—„μ²­λ‚˜λ„€μš”.
[01:53] <lex__> 성별은 μ–΄μ°Œ λ˜λ‚˜μš”?
[01:53] <soyeomul`> 였늘 μƒˆλ²½μ— νƒœμ–΄λ‚œ 깐돌인 아직 성별 λ―Έν™•μΈμ΄μ•„μš”
[01:53] <lex__> μ•„.
[01:53] <soyeomul`> μ–΄λ―Έκ°€ ν•₯μ•„μ£Όκ³  μ•„κΈ°κ°€ 초유λ₯Ό λ‹€ λ¨Ήκ³ λ‚˜λ©΄
[01:53] <soyeomul`> κ·Έλ•Œ μ˜€ν›„μ―€ κ°€μ„œ ꡬ멍이 λͺ‡κ°œμΈκ°€ 보고 성별 ν™•μΈν•΄μš”~
[01:54] <lex__> κ΅¬λ©μ΄μš”?
[01:54] <soyeomul`> 예 2개면 μ—¬μž 1개면 λ‚¨μž
[01:54] <lex__> κ·Έλ ‡κ΅°μš”.
[01:58] <soyeomul`> 음 λ°°μ—΄ λ³΅μ œλΌλ„ ν•œλ²ˆ μ•Œμ•„λ³ΌκΉŒλ°”μš”;;;
[01:59] <lex__> 감이 μ•ˆμ˜€λ„€μš”.
[01:59] <lex__> 잘 μ•Œκ²Œ λ˜μ‹œλ©΄ μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ„Έμš”.^^
[02:02] <soyeomul`> 이게 μ§€λ‚œλ²ˆμ— μ†Œμˆ˜ 식별 μ½”λ“œλ₯Ό 쓴적이 μžˆλŠ”λ°μš”
[02:02] <soyeomul`> μž„μ˜μ˜ 랜덀 수 κΉŒμ§€ μ†Œμˆ˜λ₯Ό 좜λ ₯ν•˜μ‹œμ˜€!
[02:02] <soyeomul`> 라고 ν–ˆμ„λ•Œ...
[02:03] <soyeomul`> C언어에선 μ°Έ λ‚œκ°ν•œκ²Œ 배열이 λ”± μ •μ μ΄λΌμ„œ μ–΄λ§ˆμ–΄λ§ˆν•œ μˆ˜κΉŒμ§€ ν…ŒμŠ€νŠΈν•˜λ €λ©΄ κ·Έλ•Œκ·Έλ•Œλ§ˆλ‹€ 배열이 μžλ™μœΌλ‘œ ν™•μž₯되면 μ’‹κ² λ‹€ μ‹Άμ—ˆλŠ”λ° C언어에선 이게 파이썬처럼 μžλ™μœΌλ‘œ μ€„μ—ˆλ‹€ λŠ˜μ—ˆλ‹€ ν•˜λŠ”κ²Œ μ•„λ‹ˆμ–΄μ„œ κ΅¬ν˜„μ΄ μ§„μ§œ λΉ‘μ‹œλ”μ΄λ‹€
[02:04] <soyeomul`> 뭐 10λ§ŒκΉŒμ§€ μ†Œμˆ˜κ°€ λ­μžˆλŠ”μ§€ λͺ°λΌλ„ 솑아지 ν‚€μš°λŠ”λ°λŠ” 관련이 μ—†μ§€λ§Œμš”
[02:04] <soyeomul`> 동적 λ°°μ—΄μ˜ 관문을 λ„˜μ§€ λͺ»ν•˜λ‹ˆκΉ 잠이 μ•ˆμ˜€λ”μ΄λ‹€
[02:04] <soyeomul`> 음 아직 μ € μ•ˆμ§€λ Έλ„€μš”
[02:05] <soyeomul`> malloc 이야기 더 ν•˜λ‹€κ°€ 선을 λ„˜μœΌλ©΄ 또 μžλ™μœΌλ‘œ λ„€λ–‘ λŠκΈΈμ§€λ„ λͺ°λΌμš”
[02:05] <soyeomul`> 솑아지 ν•˜λ‚˜λ§Œ 보고 가야지 λ”± 이런 λŠλ‚Œ..
[02:06] <lex__> ^^
[02:08] <soyeomul`> https://m.blog.naver.com/tipsware/221250121797
[02:08] <soyeomul`> μ œκ°€ λ°”λΌλŠ” 것을 ν¬ν•¨ν•˜λŠ” λΈ”λ‘œκ·Έκ°€ λ‚˜μ™”μ§€λ§Œ 저건 λ¦¬λˆ…μŠ€μ—μ„œ λŒμ•„κ°ˆμ§€ 보μž₯ λͺ»ν•˜λ„€μš”
[02:08] <soyeomul`> 아흐닀둱디리
[02:09] <soyeomul`> κ·Έλž˜λ„ ν•œλ²ˆ μ‹œλ„ν•΄λ΄…λ‹ˆλ‹€
[02:09] <lex__> 였 μ°ΎμœΌμ…¨λ„€μš”.
[02:11] <soyeomul`> 였!
[02:11] <soyeomul`> μ € μ½”λ“œ gcc μ—μ„œ μ—λŸ¬μ—†μ΄ 컴파일 λ˜μ—ˆμ–΄μš”!
[02:11] <soyeomul`> 아직 μ‹€ν–‰μ „μž…λ‹ˆλ‹€... κ³Όμ—°...
[02:12] <soyeomul`> μ•„ μ œκ°€ λ‹€λ₯Έ 예제 μ½”λ“œλ₯Ό μΌμ—ˆλ„€μš”... μ°©κ°ν–ˆμ–΄μš” λ†μ‚¬κΎΌμ˜ ν•œκ³„...
[02:12] <soyeomul`> μž¬λ„μ „!
[02:14] <soyeomul`> μ•ˆλ˜λ„€μš” μ €κ±° gcc 에선 컴파일이 μ•ˆλ˜λ„€μš”
[02:15] <soyeomul`> size_t alloc_size = _msize(p);
[02:15] <soyeomul`> μ €κ±°λŠ” μœˆλ„μš°μ¦ˆμ—μ„œλ§Œ 컴파일이 λ˜λ‚˜λ°”μš”
[02:15] <lex__> μ•ˆλ˜λŠ”κ΅°μš”.
[02:16] <soyeomul`> μ–΄λ ΅λ„€μš”... μœΌμ•„~
[02:16] <soyeomul`> μ»€ν”Όλ‚˜ ν•œμ‚¬λ°œ λ§ˆμ‹œκ³  λ©λ•Œλ €μ•Όκ² μ–΄μš” μž μ‹œ
[02:16] <popeye92> http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/malloc_usable_size.3.html
[02:16] <lex__> 컀피 λ§›μžˆκ²Œ λ“œμ„Έμš”
[02:17] <popeye92> _msize on Windows
[02:17] <popeye92> malloc_size on MacOS
[02:17] <popeye92> malloc_usable_size on systems with glibc
[02:17] <popeye92> μ΄λžλ‹ˆλ‹€.
[02:18] <popeye92> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1281686/determine-size-of-dynamically-allocated-memory-in-c
[02:18] <lex__> μ•„ κ·Έλ ‡κ΅°μš”.^^
[02:18] <soyeomul`> 였였였 λ½€λΉ μ΄λ‹˜ κΎΈλ²…
[02:18] <soyeomul`> μ•„ 도움말 κ°μ‚¬ν•©λ‹ˆλ‹€!
[02:18] <soyeomul`> ν›„λ”± μ•Œλ €μ£Όμ‹  λ¬Έμ„œ ν•œλ²ˆ μ‹œλ„ν•΄λ³Όκ»˜μš”~
[02:18] <popeye92> λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰ 링크에 보면 λ‹€λ₯Έ μ˜ˆμ œλ„ λ§Žλ„€μš”. μ²˜μŒμ— λ§μ”€λ“œλ¦° 게 틀렸을 μˆ˜λ„
[02:18] <soyeomul`> κΎΈλ²…
[02:19] <popeye92> soyeomul`: 맀번 μΈμ‚¬λ§Œ λ¨Όμ € λ°›κ³  잠수 쀑인데...μ˜€λžœλ§Œμž…λ‹ˆλ‹€.
[02:19] <soyeomul`> λ½€λΉ μ΄λ‹˜ ^^^
[02:19] <soyeomul`> ν•˜μ—¬κ°„ κΌ­ μ„±κ³΅ν• κ»˜μš”~!!!
[02:19] <soyeomul`> malloc!!! μ•„μžμž!!!
[02:29] <soyeomul`> 컴파일 μ„±κ³΅ν–ˆμŠ΅λ‹ˆλ‹€!
[02:29] <soyeomul`> λ½€λΉ μ΄λ‹˜ λ ‰μŠ€λ‹˜ 두 λΆ„ λͺ¨λ‘ κ°μ‚¬λ“œλ¦½λ‹ˆλ‹€^^^
[02:30] <lex__> 였. ν•΄λ‚΄μ…¨κ΅°μš”.^^
[02:31] <soyeomul`> κ·Έ μ•„κΉŒ 넀이버 개발자의 μ˜ˆμ œμ½”λ“œμ™€ λ½€λΉ μ΄λ‹˜μ˜ μŠ€νƒμ˜€λΈŒν”Œλ‘œμš°μ˜ λ§ˆμ§€λ§‰ λ‹¨λ½μ˜ νŒμ„ μ§¬λ½•ν–ˆμ–΄μš”
[02:31] <soyeomul`> #define 에닀가 glibc κ΄€λ ¨ λ‚΄μš© μΆ”κ°€
[02:31] <soyeomul`> 그리고
[02:32] <soyeomul`> alloc size 에닀가 좜λ ₯문에닀가 glibc λ‚΄μš©μœΌλ‘œ λ³€κ²½ν•˜λ‹ˆκΉ
[02:32] <soyeomul`> 컴파일이되고 결과값도 μ›ν•˜λŠ” 값이 λ‚˜μ˜΅λ‹ˆλ‹€
[02:32] <soyeomul`> λ„ˆλ¬΄ κΈ°μ˜λ„€μš”
[02:32] <soyeomul`> 이제 μ†Œμˆ˜ 식별 Cμ–Έμ–΄ μ½”λ“œλ₯Ό malloc 으둜 μ μš©ν•˜λŠ”κ²ƒλ§Œ λ‚¨μ•˜λŠ”λ°... 이건 저녁 μ†Œμ—¬λ¬Ό μ£Όκ³ λ‚˜μ„œ ν•΄λ³ΌκΉŒν•΄μš”
[02:33] <soyeomul`> λ½€λΉ μ΄λ‹˜κ³Ό λ ‰μŠ€λ‹˜κ»˜ λ‹€μ‹œν•œλ²ˆ 감사감사 λ“œλ¦½λ‹ˆλ‹€^^^
[02:34] <soyeomul`> μ•„ μ „ 이만 λ“€μ–΄κ°€λ³Όκ»˜μš”
[02:34] <soyeomul`> λͺ¨λ‘λ“€ μ‘΄ ν•˜λ£¨μš”~
[02:37] <soyeomul`> κΎΈλ²…
[05:57] <foxmask> μ•ˆλ…•ν•˜μ„Έμš”