| [01:14] <guiverc> what's an appropriate page for 18.04(lxde)->20.04 (lxqt) matching programs... anyone want to give me appropriate page url (or can pages be renamed/moved so it doesn't matter??) | |
| [01:15] <wxl> phab.l.m/w/bugs has one | |
| [01:16] <lubot> <kc2bez> That would probably be the best start. ^ | |
| [01:16] <guiverc> yeah I'd forgotten apt-ghetto mentioned that, we don't need a wiki then I agree | |
| [01:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL36ffa167ef0a: Add start of features for how to change DNS settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL36ffa167ef0a | |
| [05:25] <guiverc> just completed day 5 of daily install (20.10) on d755-8 box that suffers lp 1877733 | 1851188 ; 3 of 5 days were fail "failed to create a partition table"; same install each day; all 3 fails worked with `sudo -E calamares -d` | |
| [05:25] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1877733 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 20.10 calamares 'failed to create a partition table'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1877733 | |
| [07:36] <lubot> <Leokolb> @guiverc [<guiverc> just completed day 5 of daily install (20.10) on d755-8 box that suffe …], I just tested this again on the same machine that the original bug occurred on and the install was successful with no errors. | |
| [07:38] <guiverc> @Leokolb, I assume without the `sudo -E cala.. -d` successful.. please note it on 1877733; it does mean our two boxes are acting differently, which fits wxl's timing belief ! | |
| [07:38] <lubot> <Leokolb> Will do. | |
| [07:46] <guiverc> Thanks for notificiate @Leokolb, appreciated. | |
| [07:48] <guiverc> ^ notitication... sorry | |
| [07:52] <guiverc> Thanks @Leokolb | |
| [07:59] <lubot> emaskell was added by: emaskell | |
| [08:01] <lubot> <Leokolb> @guiverc why not try the install again and when the install now button appears wait 15 seconds before selecting? | |
| [08:05] <guiverc> hold on @Leokolb, will try & help in #lubuntu.. I can't recall the install.now (I've never been consistent with starting my installs; timing meant system.timing, mboard/hdd/etc | |
| [08:12] <guiverc> do you mean delay before hitting "Install Lubuntu 20.04.." on display by 15 secs... My timing of startign install would vary significantly already.. I don't think that's timing meant | |
| [08:14] <guiverc> HOWEVER, I did delay ~15-20 secs & started it... and it's working??? same otherwise as prior install that failed... @Leokolb | |
| [08:15] <guiverc> your prediction worked @Leokolb, I might try this a few times over tonight | |
| [08:15] <lubot> <Leokolb> @guiverc -ok - I can agree it most likely has something to do with timing - just tried another old Dell laptop -no problem | |
| [08:31] <guiverc> ran install again, 20-21 secs delay & it failed.. | |
| [09:02] <lubot> <Leokolb> @guiverc [<guiverc> ran install again, 20-21 secs delay & it failed..], Well it was worth a try.. | |
| [09:04] <guiverc> i suspect we're not going to be able to predict it.. (for one I doubt we can time each keystroke well enough..) but you've blown my `sudo -E calamares -d` more successful theory out.. it's just a re-try I now think, luck or delay.. | |
| [09:06] <lubot> <Leokolb> @guiverc the irregularity makes it very difficult to find the cause.. | |
| [09:09] <guiverc> yeah... but I've not looked at source code, which is next required step I suspect... it'd be nice if we could fix this for 20.04.1 (or 20.10), testing floppy fix first is easier so I plan on that first :) | |
| [14:07] <lubot> Jeremiah Katamda was added by: Jeremiah Katamda | |
| [14:12] <lubot> <Jeremiah Katamda> https://share.influencersearn.com/dashboard/register.php?referral=Bitingo7 join now if you want to make money guys it Legit join now this can charge you life. | |
| [16:29] <lubot> <profetik777> @tsimonq2 messaged you about polos. | |
| [16:54] <lubot> <RikMills> Mmmm | |
| [18:10] <wxl> btw @Leokolb and @guiverc thanks for continuing to try to track that one down. i haven't said anything, but i really appreciate it | |
| [18:39] <wxl> !info pcmanfm-qt | |
| [18:39] <ubot93> pcmanfm-qt (0.14.1-0ubuntu3, groovy): extremely fast and lightweight file and desktop icon manager. In component universe, is optional. Built by pcmanfm-qt. Size 167 kB / 650 kB | |
| [18:39] <wxl> harumph | |
| [18:42] <kc2bez> What is up wxl ? | |
| [18:42] <wxl> oh just looking to see if we've got 0.15.0 yet | |
| [18:42] <wxl> there's some big DND changes i discovered | |
| [18:42] <kc2bez> I think it is in both of the CI branches. | |
| [18:45] <kc2bez> Yeah, stable does https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/pcmanfm-qt/browse/ci%252Fstable/debian/changelog$1 and it has been building. | |
| [18:49] <wxl> cool | |
| [18:49] <kc2bez> Simon cleaned up a bunch of the CI stuff. | |
| [19:46] <wxl> hey a thought: maybe we should drop libreoffice math | |
| [19:47] <wxl> we don't have base | |
| [19:51] <kc2bez> Not a terrible thought. | |
| [19:51] <kc2bez> It is still available for install even if we drop it. | |
| [20:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL23ac34623064: Fix captilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL23ac34623064 | |
| [20:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4e75aef7468a: Fix captilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4e75aef7468a | |
| [20:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbd776522c149: Update locale icon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbd776522c149 | |
| [20:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfb01284825f9: Fix captilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfb01284825f9 | |
| [20:32] <lubot> <lynorian> I am not against dropping libreoffice math just tell me when we do | |
| [20:49] <tsimonq2> +1 on dropping Math. | |
| [20:49] <tsimonq2> As for 0.15, I'm working on that todya. | |
| [20:49] <tsimonq2> It was mostly done actually, I just have to do a full Lintian combthrough. | |
| [20:50] <tsimonq2> I'm really curious why things haven't been migrating from stable-ci-proposed, hm. | |
| [20:50] <tsimonq2> o_o | |
| [20:51] <tsimonq2> Yeah, what? | |
| [20:51] <tsimonq2> OH | |
| [20:51] <tsimonq2> I disabled the nightly and forgot to put it back. | |
| [20:51] <tsimonq2> Oooooooooooooops. | |
| [20:51] <tsimonq2> I'll run a full nightly now. | |
| [20:52] <tsimonq2> First I'll update Jenkins though. | |
| [21:11] <wxl> danke tsimonq2 | |
| [21:11] <wxl> ok dropping math, good | |
| [21:12] <wxl> what about dropping qpdfview (last commit 2014) and replacing it with the WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more useful okular? | |
| [21:12] <tsimonq2> What's the delta in footprint? | |
| [21:12] <wxl> well might be irrelevant given the fact that qpdfview is dead | |
| [21:13] <wxl> pdfs are a moving target | |
| [21:14] <wxl> hold on maybe not dead | |
| [21:14] <wxl> just dead on github | |
| [21:15] <wxl> confirmed | |
| [21:15] <wxl> ok nevermind that | |
| [21:15] <wxl> next: what about a more user friendly image editing application? draw kind of sucks. | |
| [21:17] <kc2bez> Did qpdfview move? | |
| [21:17] <wxl> no launchpad was always home | |
| [21:17] <wxl> i just made the mistake of looking on github | |
| [21:17] <kc2bez> Oh ok. | |
| [21:20] <tsimonq2> I'm going to be adding full Lintian checks to CI. | |
| [21:20] <tsimonq2> When this nightly is done, of course. | |
| [21:21] <kc2bez> sweet | |
| [21:21] <tsimonq2> $ lintian -EvIL +pedantic *.dsc *.deb | |
| [21:21] <tsimonq2> After getting the debs from LP of course. | |
| [21:21] <tsimonq2> That *should* do the trick. | |
| [21:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> next: what about a more user friendly image editing application? draw kind …], karita? | |
| [21:21] <tsimonq2> Plus, if there are errors, I'm assuming Lintian will lolwat (exit 1). | |
| [21:22] <kc2bez> It will be nice having that there. | |
| [21:22] <wxl> @HMollerCl i like krita | |
| [21:22] <tsimonq2> For sure. | |
| [21:22] <wxl> maybe replace libreoffice draw with krita? | |
| [21:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> mmm, 298Mb footprint krita | |
| [21:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> 103 for gimp | |
| [21:23] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (in my system, maybe I already have some dependencies) | |
| [21:23] <wxl> yeesh krita is huge compared to draw | |
| [21:23] <wxl> but draw really sucks if you just want to crop something | |
| [21:23] <wxl> gimp's out; gtk | |
| [21:23] <kc2bez> gimp is useful but not necessarily the most intuitive. | |
| [21:23] <kc2bez> and gtk | |
| [21:24] <tsimonq2> Exit code to set build unstable | |
| [21:24] <tsimonq2> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | |
| [21:24] <tsimonq2> So, instead of Lintian failing just being a complete job fail, we can just have it be marked as unstable. | |
| [21:25] <kc2bez> that seems better than an outright fail. | |
| [21:25] <tsimonq2> Indeed. | |
| [21:26] <RikMills> fail = lintian error currently? | |
| [21:27] <tsimonq2> Nope, we don't have Lintian built in yet. | |
| [21:27] <tsimonq2> I'm waiting for this nightly to finish before I pick a guinea pig job to test on. | |
| [21:27] <RikMills> ah. I see :) | |
| [21:27] <tsimonq2> Unfortunately Riddell's guinea pigs are currently busy. | |
| [21:27] <tsimonq2> :P | |
| [21:28] <tsimonq2> RikMills: Since KCI is somewhat dead, even though there *are* some Lubuntuisms in the code, I'd definitely like to work with you to get this deployed for KCI. | |
| [21:29] <tsimonq2> teward, kc2bez: Would you be able to take a look at the CI code and maybe try to correct some of my, er, lack of programming knowledge? :P | |
| [21:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> $ lintian -EvIL +pedantic *.dsc *.deb], I normally do: alias evil='lintian -EvIL +pedantic *changes' | |
| [21:30] <tsimonq2> I'll be happy to clarify anything about how I've architected it. | |
| [21:30] <teward> what'd you fubar now lol | |
| [21:30] <teward> i require information | |
| [21:30] <teward> information you have not provided | |
| [21:30] <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl: That would work, except there isn't an easy way (that I can see) to grab the amd64 changes from LP. | |
| [21:30] <tsimonq2> teward: So, YOU. | |
| [21:30] <tsimonq2> teward: There's some Python code. | |
| [21:30] <teward> links? | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> teward: You know I'm *the* *best* at Python. | |
| [21:31] <RikMills> tsimonq2: it's one possibility I am thinking of. I may be able to bodge current KCI for a bit, but something else is needed longer term | |
| [21:31] <teward> or somewhere I can look | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> teward: (Not really.) | |
| [21:31] <teward> tsimonq2: questionable, Eickmeyer is superior to you in python atm :P | |
| [21:31] <teward> where's the code sit then | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> teward: Here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-tooling/ | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> teward: Here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> That's what currently runs the CI. | |
| [21:31] <tsimonq2> RikMills: Agreed. | |
| [21:32] <Eickmeyer> Fake news: I suck at Python. | |
| [21:33] <RikMills> tsimonq2: what might be nice is to set up a test jenkins to initially just do plasma builds to a ppa. 45-47 source stack would be a good proof of concept | |
| [21:33] <kc2bez> I don't think I necessarily qualify as a "pro" :P | |
| [21:33] <tsimonq2> RikMills: My next task, unless teward wants to take a look, is to make it so we can do "one off" builds for specific stacks, if that makes sense. | |
| [21:34] <tsimonq2> Right now it's only hardcoded for stable and unstable. | |
| [21:34] <tsimonq2> So yes, once that's done I can spin up a PPA and give it a go. | |
| [21:34] <RikMills> you mean feed it a set of release tars? | |
| [21:34] <tsimonq2> Of course, your suggestions and patches are absolutely welcome. | |
| [21:34] <tsimonq2> No, I mean set a specific config file for a specific PPA. | |
| [21:35] <RikMills> right | |
| [21:35] <tsimonq2> RikMills: This is pretty hacky if you ask me: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/ci-metadata/ | |
| [21:35] <teward> tsimonq2: import git <-- where you getting git from? | |
| [21:35] <teward> sh? | |
| [21:35] <teward> because `git` isn't a module unless you're using a specific module and you specify no requirements.txt | |
| [21:35] <tsimonq2> teward: python3-git...? no clue | |
| [21:35] <tsimonq2> The archive package. | |
| [21:36] <teward> it's gitpython | |
| [21:36] <tsimonq2> Okay. | |
| [21:36] <teward> but that's not *in* every environment nor a default install | |
| [21:36] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | |
| [21:36] <tsimonq2> True. | |
| [21:36] <tsimonq2> This is why I have you spot check these things. | |
| [21:36] <tsimonq2> I can get the code to work, I just lack some of this polish. | |
| [21:37] <teward> you have a few failures here | |
| [21:37] <teward> and cases which could explode badly for you | |
| [21:38] <teward> vars that might not have assignments, etc. | |
| [21:38] <tsimonq2> RikMills, Eickmeyer: The ideal scenario would likely be to re-house this under something like ci.flavors.ubuntu.com and allow it as a general use piece of tooling. | |
| [21:38] <tsimonq2> teward: Precisely. | |
| [21:38] <tsimonq2> I wrote that basically in one sitting. | |
| [21:38] <teward> lp_check.py -> import launchpadlib on line 19, not used | |
| [21:38] <tsimonq2> ? | |
| [21:38] <teward> you have an unnecessary import | |
| [21:38] <tsimonq2> It polls LP, how is launchpadlib not used? | |
| [21:38] <teward> because you override that import with a later one | |
| [21:39] <kc2bez> Line 21 | |
| [21:39] <teward> yep | |
| [21:39] <teward> how badly do you want me to beat you over your code, basically? | |
| [21:39] <RikMills> tsimonq2: could work. to be honest KCI running nightly builds was probably overkill | |
| [21:39] <tsimonq2> teward: Basically, just fix it and push it. | |
| [21:39] <tsimonq2> :P | |
| [21:40] <kc2bez> XD | |
| [21:40] <tsimonq2> It re-deploys itself. | |
| [21:40] <tsimonq2> XD | |
| [21:40] * RikMills kicks riscv64 builders | |
| [21:40] <RikMills> slow slow :( | |
| [21:40] <Eickmeyer> ^ | |
| [21:44] <teward> tsimonq2: you've got some cases where you've got some major cases that could blow up in your face | |
| [21:44] <teward> so i've added handlers/catches and runtime error raises in those positions | |
| [21:44] <teward> or cases you run into variables that haven't been assigned or don't exist so they're init'd with None and then checked before executing things | |
| [21:45] <teward> i haven't dug too deep but this probably will work (I'm not an expert at Jenkins API but I've got some big major errors that PyCharm would've warned you on lol) | |
| [21:47] <teward> tsimonq2: E:NOACCESS | |
| [21:55] <tsimonq2> teward: Working on it. | |
| [21:55] <teward> ok | |
| [22:00] <tsimonq2> teward: Try now. | |
| [22:00] <teward> that worked ty | |
| [22:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIf7e731faaed8: Multiple issues fixed.] teward (Thomas Ward) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIf7e731faaed8 | |
| [22:00] <tsimonq2> ofc | |
| [22:01] <teward> hey look lugito pinged me | |
| [22:01] <teward> *beats Lugito with a stick for reasons* | |
| [22:01] <tsimonq2> XD | |
| [22:01] <tsimonq2> teward: Otherwise does the code look fairly sane? | |
| [22:01] <teward> i'm not well versed in the jenkins CI but it seems so | |
| [22:01] <tsimonq2> Okay. | |
| [22:03] <teward> only full test is to actually try and USE it heh | |
| [22:04] <tsimonq2> heh | |
| [22:04] <tsimonq2> Like I said, when this nightly is done we'll try it. | |
| [22:30] <tsimonq2> teward: How would you like to do 20.04 upgrades? | |
| [22:31] <tsimonq2> Will anything break if I wanted to start upgrading individual containers? | |
| [22:31] <teward> prpbably | |
| [22:31] <teward> phab | |
| [22:31] <tsimonq2> How so? | |
| [22:31] <teward> might explode | |
| [22:31] <tsimonq2> lmao | |
| [22:32] <tsimonq2> Well, what can we do to make sure it doesn't explode? | |
| [22:32] <teward> do itnpiece by piece but take snapshots first fir revert points | |
| [22:32] <tsimonq2> Can we easily "just" snapshot LXD containers? | |
| [22:33] <teward> yeah i will start on that tomorrow | |
| [22:33] <teward> gaming atm | |
| [22:33] <tsimonq2> Do you want to let me take a crack at it, or can I monkey with it a bit? | |
| [22:33] <tsimonq2> (Well, the way I worded that was off, but you get the point.) | |
| [22:35] <teward> i mean if you want to really test clone the container and then uograde the main one | |
| [22:35] <teward> keep the clone powered off | |
| [22:36] <tsimonq2> Why's that? | |
| [22:36] <teward> that way ww have a simple ready to go revert point | |
| [22:36] <tsimonq2> Okay. | |
| [22:36] <teward> because i dont trust snapshots alone :) | |
| [22:36] <tsimonq2> :) | |
| [22:36] <teward> even my VM snapshots | |
| [22:36] <teward> i have full clones synced monthky for CI | |
| [22:36] <tsimonq2> Cool. | |
| [22:46] <teward> tsimonq2: to be more precise of my reasoning though, a snapshot is a zfs snapshot the way we've got it set up. But that is more a disk delta than anything so a full clone makes sure we have a backup we can restore instantly simply by powering on than messing with deltas | |
| [22:46] <teward> so line lxc clone phab phab-backup or something | |
| [22:47] <tsimonq2> Sounds good. | |
| [22:47] <teward> then do-release-upgrade in the main container | |
| [22:47] <teward> note that I recommend we wait for .1 for upgrade bugs to get ironed out | |
| [22:47] <teward> there's been some wonky ones - not in containers but in general | |
| [22:47] <teward> so i'm understandably cautious RE: upgrading things | |
| [22:47] <teward> esp. things that rely on things like certain PHP versions, etc. | |
| [22:48] <tsimonq2> Meh. | |
| [22:49] <tsimonq2> teward: lxc-clone is part of LXC 1. | |
| [22:49] <teward> i didn't say lxc-clone did i | |
| [22:49] <teward> ***learn to read youngling*** | |
| [22:50] <teward> `lxc clone` != `lxc-clone` | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> No, you said clone. | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> Ugh. | |
| [22:50] * tsimonq2 shoots teward for reasons | |
| [22:50] <teward> `lxc clone` is the command | |
| [22:50] <teward> `lxc-clone` is NOT `lxc clone` | |
| [22:50] <teward> the DASH is the difference ya ninny | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> $ lxc clone | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> Error: unknown command "clone" for "lxc" | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> Wrong. | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> Bad. | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> :P | |
| [22:50] <teward> lxc copy | |
| [22:50] <teward> E:Tired | |
| [22:50] <tsimonq2> mmmmmmmkay | |
| [22:50] <teward> lxc copy phab phab-backup | |
| [22:51] <teward> i've had a chaotic day. *is grumpy at world* | |
| [22:51] * tsimonq2 throws a cat at teward for reasons | |
| [22:52] <teward> *shotguns the cat into the wall with an air cannon* | |
| [22:52] <lubot> <kc2bez> I was thinking copy was what you were wanting to say :P | |
| [22:52] <teward> kc2bez: yep. | |
| [22:52] <teward> E:TIRED | |
| [22:52] <teward> E:CHAOSDAY | |
| [22:52] <teward> E:StuffExplodedAtJobHadToFixFor8Hours | |
| [22:53] <tsimonq2> teward: FIX MORE | |
| [22:53] <tsimonq2> XD | |
| [22:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> Sry was afk made food | |
| [23:14] <tsimonq2> Phab is going down for now. | |
| [23:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcb4b3ee292c6: Spellcheck Quassel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcb4b3ee292c6 | |
| [23:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL333cd97d87df: Spellcheck Quassel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL333cd97d87df | |
| [23:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7f639bc88128: Spellcheck Quassel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7f639bc88128 | |