| [01:30] <kenvandine> robert_ancell_: running a few minutes late | |
| [01:32] <Jagst3r15> hey if i am on a ubuntu 20.04 daily build from a week or so ago how do i update it to the latest so i get gnome 3.36 | |
| [01:33] <sarnold> Jagst3r15: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | |
| [01:33] <Jagst3r15> thnx | |
| [01:33] <sarnold> Jagst3r15: don't let apt uninstall anything that looks important | |
| [01:35] <sarnold> Jagst3r15: within the normal releases, apt's dependency solver will usually do a pretty good job; but in the development cycle, there's a lot more changes and its solver may make silly suggestions | |
| [01:40] <kenvandine> robert_ancell_: i'm in the hangout | |
| [06:41] <duflu> RAOF, out of curiosity did you see some GL build-time libraries (*.so, no soname) do missing in focal? | |
| [06:41] <duflu> Mine seem to have | |
| [06:42] <duflu> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lEGL | |
| [06:42] <duflu> -do +go | |
| [06:44] <duflu> Hmm, something has deleted my GL *.so files. The packages are installed but the files are not. FYI tjaalton | |
| [06:45] <duflu> Actually I did do a test install/remove of nvidia-340 this morning... | |
| [06:49] <duflu> Yeah I blame Nvidia. Fixed: | |
| [06:49] <duflu> sudo apt install --reinstall libegl-dev libegl1-mesa-dev libgl-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libgles-dev libgles2-mesa-dev libglvnd-dev libglx-dev | |
| [06:49] <jibel> morning all | |
| [06:51] <duflu> Morning jibel | |
| [06:53] <jibel> Hi duflu | |
| [07:01] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers | |
| [07:07] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN | |
| === pieq_ is now known as pieq | |
| [08:19] <seb128> goood morning desktopers | |
| [08:19] <duflu> Morning seb128 | |
| [08:19] <duflu> How goes? | |
| [08:21] <seb128> a bit tired, I didn't sleep great, but good otherwise | |
| [08:21] <seb128> and it's friday! | |
| [08:21] <mpt> Why is the password field on the lock screen way off-center? | |
| [08:21] <seb128> mpt, bug | |
| [08:21] <seb128> it's fixed in yaru git | |
| [08:21] <seb128> just needs an upload | |
| [08:22] <duflu> mpt, bug 1865563 | |
| [08:22] <ubot5> bug 1865563 in yaru-theme (Ubuntu) "password box not centered" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865563 | |
| [08:22] <mpt> Huh, I wouldn’t have thought Yaru could do that :-) | |
| [08:22] <mpt> Thanks seb128, duflu | |
| [08:22] <duflu> Yeah I was going to ask how it was possible | |
| [08:26] <mpt> Gnome is weird | |
| [08:29] <mpt> e.g. the lock screen has a “Power Off / Log Out” submenu … but the submenu only ever contains one item … but that item is not Power Off *or* Log Out | |
| [08:32] <duflu> mpt see also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/2202 | |
| [08:32] <gitbot> GNOME issue 2202 in gnome-shell "Add explicit "Reboot" option in dropdown (instead of a button after clicking "Power Off")" [2. Needs Design, Opened] | |
| [08:34] <duflu> I'm still wondering why my laptop's password dialog centred itself in Frankfurt. And all my other machines including new installs are still off centre | |
| [08:35] <mpt> duflu, I don’t have a big problem with Restart being in the Power Off dialog, but that’s not relevant to the lock screen issue, because the lock screen doesn’t have Power Off either | |
| [08:37] <duflu> mpt, I don't care too much either. Although I will note part of the complication is that it goes through 'gnome-session-quit --power-off' | |
| [08:37] <duflu> So not just a gnome-shell issue | |
| [08:38] <mpt> I’m guessing someone thought “oh, we have to use a submenu with the same title as the one when you’re logged in”, and ended up with something totally nonsensical | |
| [08:40] <mpt> Also love how to turn off Bluetooth, you open a submenu titled … “On”. And then to turn on Bluetooth, you … ah hahaha, did you think that submenu would still be there? That would be too obvious | |
| [08:41] <mpt> Ok, enough grousing for one day :-) | |
| [08:42] <seb128> :) | |
| [08:42] <duflu> mpt, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1426 | |
| [08:42] <gitbot> GNOME issue 1426 in gnome-shell "Bluetooth item disappears from the integrated menu when turned off" [1. Bug, 5. Bluetooth, Opened] | |
| [08:49] <mpt> To be positive, it’s good that gnome-control-center no longer has some categories hidden in “Devices” | |
| [08:51] <duflu> Yes! | |
| [08:51] <duflu> Also I just noticed the background selector is simpler now | |
| [08:53] <mpt> arg | |
| [08:54] <mpt> I just chose “Add Picture…” and the filepicker opened … maximized? but not unmaximizable … And if I try to move it, it doesn’t, but through the semi-transparent launcher I can see the Settings window moving around behind it | |
| [08:54] <duflu> mpt, hmm I am running upstream gnome-shell 3.36.0 and have no such bug | |
| [08:54] <seb128> that's how modal dialog behave | |
| [08:54] <duflu> A little ahead of focal | |
| [08:55] <mpt> duflu, is the dialog maximized for you? | |
| [08:55] <seb128> well not the 'dialog behind moves with the popup' | |
| [08:55] <duflu> mpt, no but it is very large | |
| [08:55] <seb128> it might depend of the screen resolution | |
| [08:57] <mpt> I can unmaximize it by right-clicking on the title bar, choosing “Resize”, then using the keyboard. Then it becomes resizable with the pointer. | |
| [09:01] <Laney> moin | |
| [09:02] <duflu> Morning Laney | |
| [09:02] <Wimpress> Yawn. Morning desktopers o/ | |
| [09:03] <seb128> hey Laney, Wimpress, how is the u.k today? | |
| [09:03] <duflu> Morning Wimpress | |
| [09:03] <Wimpress> seb128: There is an unfamiliar golden orb in the sky. | |
| [09:03] <Wimpress> The locals feel uneasy. | |
| [09:03] <Wimpress> duflu: o/ | |
| [09:04] <Wimpress> seb128: I reviewed the Studio and Kylin changes for Ubiquity last night. | |
| [09:04] <Wimpress> Feedback submitted. | |
| [09:05] <duflu> Wimpress, also still in the sky here, coincidentally | |
| [09:05] <Wimpress> Studio is good to go. Just artwork changes. | |
| [09:05] <seb128> Wimpress, thanks, Kylin followed up on your review during the night, could you have another look to see if it's ok now? | |
| [09:06] <Wimpress> Sure thing. | |
| [09:06] <Wimpress> duflu: Careful! You'll get the flat earthers all excited 😁 | |
| [09:07] <seb128> duflu, Laney, did you hear from Trevinho and the status of the dock/extensions porting for 3.36? | |
| [09:07] <Laney> no but it was supposed to be 'eod' and I thought that might be after my eod :-) | |
| [09:08] <duflu> seb128, Marco had fixes in progress in Frankfurt so I just assumed it would be done by now | |
| [09:08] <duflu> Even the one I worked on was mostly written by him so I let him own it | |
| [09:08] <seb128> right | |
| [09:08] <seb128> well he said he would be done by eod | |
| [09:08] <seb128> and I asked him to ping you if he's not to see if you could help during your day | |
| [09:08] <seb128> looks like he didn't do that :/ | |
| [09:08] <duflu> Mostly because I could not explain all his changes so could not word a commit message | |
| [09:08] <seb128> disappointing :-( | |
| [09:10] <seb128> I guess https://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-shell-extension-appindicator/news/20200312T220419Z.html is one | |
| [09:11] <Laney> looks like it | |
| [09:11] <Laney> ah ok, sounds like https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468839824/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-s390x.gobject-introspection_1.64.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz was a compiler bug! | |
| [09:12] <seb128> Laney, yeah, see #ubuntu-release backlog | |
| [09:12] <seb128> d_oko broke gcc :p | |
| [09:14] <Laney> indeed | |
| [09:19] <Laney> can haz gjs | |
| [09:19] <duflu> Yes please | |
| [09:19] <Laney> Well you're in luck | |
| [09:20] <seb128> oh, on other news, my launchpad fix landed \o/ | |
| [09:20] <seb128> first launchpad commit | |
| [09:20] <Laney> nice | |
| [09:20] <Laney> show me it in action! | |
| [09:20] <seb128> Laney, just try to edit tags on a bug :) | |
| [09:21] <seb128> it's a bit large now which doesn't look great, but at least it's usable | |
| [09:21] <Laney> oh yeah | |
| [09:21] <Laney> nice | |
| [09:21] <duflu> Nice | |
| [09:21] <seb128> hack day ftw :) | |
| [09:23] <Wimpress> Congrats seb128 on LP fixes 👍 | |
| [09:23] <seb128> Wimpress, thanks! :) | |
| [09:23] <pieq> for the curious people like me, the change is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/380305 | |
| [09:24] <pieq> merci seb128 :) usability modifications in LP are always appreciated :) | |
| [09:24] <seb128> pieq, yw! :) | |
| [09:24] <oSoMoN> seb128, nice one! | |
| [09:25] <seb128> salut oSoMoN, comment ça va ? | |
| [09:25] <oSoMoN> ça va, working from home with kids is proving challenging, but all good otherwise | |
| [09:26] <seb128> Spain closed schools? | |
| [09:26] <oSoMoN> yes | |
| [09:27] <seb128> fun times... | |
| [09:27] <Wimpress> Talk of hack day. How do I nudge this along? | |
| [09:27] <Wimpress> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1866709 | |
| [09:27] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1866709 in Ubuntu " [needs-packaging] nv-codec-headers" [Wishlist,New] | |
| [09:28] <Wimpress> Have got agreement from FTP masters in Debian to land this upstream too. | |
| [09:29] <Laney> Get it uploaded | |
| [09:29] * duflu is inspired to use the remaining 30 minutes to sanity check VAAPI in focal | |
| [09:29] <Wimpress> Laney: To Debian? | |
| [09:29] <Laney> Ideally, but your next step is to get someone to sponsor it somewhere :-) | |
| [09:30] <Laney> if it's NEW you might want a separate upload to Ubuntu too | |
| [09:30] <Wimpress> Right. I want it Ubuntu ASAP. It does just need uploading. | |
| [09:30] <Wimpress> Who can do that? 🤔 | |
| [09:31] * Laney looks at comment #2 | |
| [09:32] * Wimpress is seeking a sponsor. | |
| [09:33] <Laney> I'm saying... looks like seb12_8 already did review it | |
| [09:34] <Laney> so hopefully there's your sponsor | |
| [09:34] <seb128> Wimpress, Laney, sorry, I didn't upload because https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze_for_new_packages was not clear to me | |
| [09:34] <seb128> it felt a bit backward to upload before it's approved | |
| [09:35] <Wimpress> So I need to get an ack from the release team? | |
| [09:35] <Laney> nah you can | |
| [09:35] <seb128> Laney, Wimpress, also we (archive-admin) try to not be uploader&reviewer, if I upload you need to find another review to NEW it then (Didier is off today) | |
| [09:35] <seb128> might be easier to find a sponsor that an archive admin to NEW review | |
| [09:35] <Laney> I'll update that page though, we haven't required that for ages | |
| [09:36] <Laney> not that I can log in | |
| [09:41] <Laney> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess?action=diff&rev2=58&rev1=57 | |
| [09:42] <seb128> Laney, thanks, makes sense | |
| [09:42] <seb128> Laney, can you do the upload so I can do the NEWing? | |
| [09:42] <seb128> Wimpress, k, ubuntustudio slideshow changes merged, yours approved, we only you to re-review the kylin one before upload | |
| [09:43] <Laney> well | |
| [09:43] <Laney> if you want me to stop working on marcus's update-manager changes to review this package which you already did review | |
| [09:43] <Laney> then yes I can | |
| [09:43] <seb128> Laney, k, don't bother then | |
| [09:43] <seb128> Wimpress, you need to find either a sponsor or a NEW reviewer, I can't do both | |
| [09:43] <Laney> decide the priorities :-) | |
| [09:43] <seb128> and I already did the NEW review so it makes more sense to find a sponsor | |
| [09:43] <seb128> Wimpress, ^ | |
| [09:44] <seb128> I've a feeling I should just don't care and upload and review my own upload :p | |
| [09:44] * seb128 ponders | |
| [09:45] <Wimpress> I'll review Kylin Slideshow changes within the next hour. | |
| [09:45] <Laney> do ittttt | |
| [09:45] <duflu> Is it unusual for a snap to have version 1.0.0 when the deb is 3.1.3 (for example)? | |
| [09:45] <Laney> except you know the queue will now remember that it was you :-) | |
| [09:46] <seb128> :-) | |
| [09:46] <Wimpress> duflu: Yes. | |
| [09:46] <duflu> Wimpress, just noticed 'rsync' | |
| [09:46] <Wimpress> Has the snap not been updated recently? | |
| [09:46] <seb128> duflu, snap as any other package format can get outdated if nobody is updating them | |
| [09:47] <Wimpress> Hmm, sounds like they versioned the yaml, not the software in the snap? | |
| [09:47] <duflu> Looks like the snap was just never versioned correctly | |
| [09:49] <seb128> Wimpress, nv-codec-headers sponsored/NEWed | |
| [09:52] <seb128> kenvandine, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468814360/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_gnome-3-34-1804-sdk_BUILDING.txt.gz in case you didn't notice | |
| [09:52] <seb128> ERROR: Program(s) ['wget'] not found or not executable | |
| [09:53] <seb128> kenvandine, also https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468793367/buildlog_snap_ubuntu_bionic_amd64_snap-store-packagekit_BUILDING.txt.gz | |
| [09:54] <duflu> seb128, it looks like Marco has been trying to upstream dock changes for a few weeks: https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/pull/1097 | |
| [09:54] <gitbot> micheleg issue (Pull request) 1097 in dash-to-dock "Gnome 3.36 support" [Open] | |
| [09:54] <Wimpress> seb128: Thank you. First beer on me next time we meet 👍 | |
| [09:55] <seb128> Wimpress, :-) | |
| [09:57] <seb128> duflu, right, well we can at least update ubuntu-dock | |
| [09:57] <duflu> seb128, it also looks like that's already done for the ubuntu-dock branch | |
| [09:57] <seb128> he also replied to me on telegram now | |
| [09:57] <seb128> he said dock should be ok now | |
| [09:58] * duflu clicks refresh and still sees no changes in 14 days | |
| [09:59] <duflu> so I wonder what "ok now" means, and where | |
| [09:59] <seb128> I guess it means he has a working codebase locally... | |
| [10:00] <duflu> Still missing a fix for bug 1865865 at least | |
| [10:00] <ubot5> bug 1865865 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Icon spring animation starts/ends in the wrong location (near the top of the dock) " [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1865865 | |
| [10:00] <duflu> But that's the one where I could not explain all his changes so would prefer he documented and committed that fix | |
| [10:01] <duflu> If need be I can revive it from my laptop on Monday but hopefully won't need to by then | |
| [10:02] <seb128> he said he would be done today, hopefully that's true | |
| [10:02] <seb128> I also told him to get on IRC! | |
| [10:02] <duflu> seb128, is it safe to EOW? | |
| [10:02] <seb128> duflu, yes | |
| [10:02] <seb128> duflu, enjoy the W.E! | |
| [10:04] <duflu> Alright. Catch you later | |
| [10:12] <Laney> yeah I guess it would have been better for this review to have happened while Marcus was still around :-) | |
| [10:12] * Laney has Questions | |
| [10:19] <Wimpress> seb128: Slide Show MR for Kylin is now good. | |
| [10:25] <seb128> Wimpress, thanks! | |
| [10:37] <kenvandine> seb128: yeah, i fixed gnome-3-34-1804-sdk yesterday | |
| [10:39] <kenvandine> snap-store also built yesterday, but only builds for amd64 because it snapcraft is being pulled from a branch that is amd64 | |
| [11:26] <Saviq> jibel: hey, I've trouble with zsys… I had to clear the snapshots b/c I ran out of space… now I don't have any Ubuntu entries in grub… | |
| [11:27] <Saviq> Got any pointers? | |
| [11:44] <Saviq> jibel: OK the problem was /boot/{efi,grub} got created, probably due to me booting in recovery mode - so /boot wasn't getting mounted - I wonder if we can force /boot to mount even if non-empty? | |
| [11:44] <Saviq> or warn/error out? | |
| [11:44] * Saviq files a couple bugs | |
| [11:46] <Laney> hmmmmmm | |
| [11:47] <Laney> is it ok for update-manager to cause polkit prompts? | |
| [11:47] <Laney> for aptdaemon we have overrides in pk-d-p to let update-manager work but not for snapd ... | |
| [11:48] <Laney> seb128: kenvandine: | |
| [11:50] <jibel> Saviq, is there any error when you run sudo update-grub ? | |
| [11:51] <kenvandine> Laney: hmmm | |
| [11:51] <kenvandine> i don't know | |
| [11:53] <Saviq> jibel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fjyy2ZC6MP/ - when /boot wasn't mounted (b/c of the /boot/{efi,grub} folders existing on the root subvol), it printed the same warnings, but then (obviously) couldn't find any Linuxes | |
| [11:54] <Saviq> jibel: hmm actually it looks like I'm getting into that state on every boot | |
| [11:59] * Saviq cleared all snapshots and tries to reboot | |
| [12:02] <Laney> also how is update-manager triggered to automatically open? | |
| [12:02] <Laney> I want to check that path too | |
| [12:06] <Laney> it's been put after 'update' but before 'install' and I'm not sure that's the right order either | |
| [12:43] <jibel> Saviq, can you file a bug, it'll be easier to gather information and understand what's going on than on irc. | |
| [12:43] <Saviq> jibel: yeah doing that now | |
| [12:44] <jibel> thank you | |
| [12:52] <Saviq> jibel: https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/60 | |
| [12:52] <gitbot> ubuntu issue 60 in zsys "Missing all Ubuntu entries from GRUB (`bpool` not imported due to `/boot` not empty)" [Open] | |
| [12:56] <Laney> seb128: kenvandine: ok, well I reviewed it: https://code.launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/update-manager/update-manager/+merge/380060 | |
| [12:56] <Laney> does need some work imho, not sure if we should wait for Marcus to be back or what | |
| [12:57] <kenvandine> Laney: thanks. Marcus said he thought you would handle any additional changes that was needed | |
| [12:58] <Laney> well yeah ... | |
| [13:01] <Laney> but this is a bit more significant than I might have expected when making such a rash statement | |
| [13:03] <seb128> kenvandine, ack | |
| [13:04] <Saviq> jibel: and https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/60 | |
| [13:04] <gitbot> ubuntu issue 60 in zsys "Missing all Ubuntu entries from GRUB (`bpool` not imported due to `/boot` not empty)" [Open] | |
| [13:05] <Saviq> https://github.com/ubuntu/zsys/issues/61 rather | |
| [13:05] <gitbot> ubuntu issue 61 in zsys "Ran out of space (couldn't even boot)" [Open] | |
| [13:05] <seb128> Laney, it's probably best if the polkit behaviour of asking/not asking if consistent with what we have, so yeah havinbg overrides seems to make sense | |
| [13:06] <Laney> but then I guess it means anyone can snap install / remove / ... anything | |
| [13:07] <Laney> which is not the case with apt, the override is for aptdaemon only | |
| [13:07] <Laney> well, any admin at the console ... | |
| [13:07] <Laney> could be ok... | |
| [13:09] <seb128> hum | |
| [13:09] <seb128> at the same time it's not a codepath users are going to hit every day, it would just ask for the password when some changes are neded right? | |
| [13:10] <Laney> right | |
| [13:10] <seb128> so it's probably fine to ask that one time... | |
| [13:10] <Laney> but it's kind of random | |
| [13:10] <Laney> I dunno, perhaps it's ok if it happens at the end of an update run | |
| [13:12] <seb128> Wimpress, ^ do you have an opinion on that? | |
| [13:12] <seb128> Laney, I think it's good enough personally, not great but we have to do with the resources we have and it's only a small annoyance/weidness | |
| [13:13] <Laney> that's kind of a side fix anyway | |
| [13:13] <Laney> either way it needs some work as I outlined in the mr | |
| [13:14] <seb128> right | |
| [13:14] <Laney> question is whether to wait for Marcus and do that in a week or do it now and someone else slides their work a day or two | |
| [13:17] <seb128> I would say to wait for next week at this point and see once we are over GNOME 3.36 landing and some other ongoing work | |
| [13:17] <seb128> we can discuss it on monday in the catchup call | |
| [13:18] <kenvandine> sorry, in a meeting | |
| [13:18] <kenvandine> lets talk about it monday | |
| [13:19] <Laney> ok | |
| [13:20] <Laney> also bear in mind that this was kind of meant to support people on the dev release :p | |
| [13:20] <Laney> guess it does have ongoing value tho | |
| [13:20] <Laney> e.g. switches made via sru | |
| [14:04] * Wimpress reads the backlog... | |
| [14:30] <seb128> kenvandine, did you see https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/snap-store/+git/snap-store/+merge/380672 ? | |
| [14:30] <seb128> Wimpress, slideshow package uploaded | |
| [14:30] <kenvandine> seb128: not yet | |
| [14:31] <kenvandine> snap-store is a mirror from gitlab | |
| [14:31] <seb128> oh, it's not obvious from launchpad :p | |
| [14:31] <kenvandine> i know | |
| [14:31] <kenvandine> sorry | |
| [14:31] <kenvandine> https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-software | |
| [14:41] <seb128> kenvandine, edit the description on https://launchpad.net/snap-store to mention that maybe? | |
| [14:41] <kenvandine> seb128: good idea | |
| [14:41] <seb128> oSoMoN, kenvandine, you guys don't feel like doing one or two GNOME updates/merges today? | |
| [14:41] * seb128 feels alone | |
| [14:41] <seb128> I spent my week on it, it's a bit depressing at this point, would be nice to be done for eow | |
| [14:42] <oSoMoN> seb128, absolutely, sorry I didn't get to it earlier… I could use some context switching for the afternoon, for a change :) | |
| [14:42] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks! | |
| [14:42] <oSoMoN> seb128, what are the most pressing updates? | |
| [14:42] <seb128> oSoMoN, https://trello.com/b/z29JJK3q/gnome-336 | |
| [14:43] <seb128> but basically seahorse/tracker/librsvg | |
| [14:43] <seb128> which you already handled recently so should be easy enough | |
| [14:43] <seb128> otherwise vte/g-t merges | |
| [14:43] <oSoMoN> ok, I'll take those three | |
| [14:43] <oSoMoN> (seahorse/tracker/librsvg) | |
| [14:43] <seb128> oSoMoN, great, thanks a lot! | |
| [14:59] <kenvandine> seb128: let me give it a swing :) | |
| [15:00] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks! | |
| [15:00] <kenvandine> seb128: did you see i uploaded the recommends change in packagekit? | |
| [15:00] <kenvandine> i need to do the ubuntu-meta upload | |
| [15:00] <kenvandine> which i'm going to do next | |
| [15:01] <seb128> right | |
| [15:02] <kenvandine> I should add the provides to both ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop-minimal right? | |
| [15:05] <kenvandine> seb128: ^^ | |
| [15:06] <seb128> kenvandine, did we have gnome-software in minimal? | |
| [15:06] <kenvandine> i think so | |
| [15:06] <seb128> so yes | |
| [15:25] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers | |
| [15:25] <oSoMoN> mornin' hellsworth | |
| [15:26] <hellsworth> hi oSoMoN ! | |
| [15:35] <Laney> kenvandine: why both? | |
| [15:36] <Laney> hope these deltas are going to be forwarded ;-) | |
| [15:38] <kenvandine> yeah, seb128 and i talked about adding the recommends change in packagekit to debian | |
| [15:41] <Laney> right, and gst-good will need updating in the same way | |
| [15:42] <Laney> in terms of ubuntu-meta I think just having it from -minimal would be enough since ubuntu-desktop has a Depends there | |
| [15:57] <Laney> Marcus basically pushed back on all of my review comments | |
| [15:57] <Laney> Perhaps someone else would like to take it over from here? | |
| [15:58] <seb128> kenvandine, ^ | |
| [16:00] <kenvandine> he shouldn't be responding to anything right now :) | |
| [16:01] <Laney> was a bit surprised to see that! | |
| [16:02] <kenvandine> if i understand correctly | |
| [16:02] <kenvandine> he's doing the transition before the user actually clicks on anything? | |
| [16:02] <Laney> update -> transition -> (deb) upgrade | |
| [16:02] <Laney> indeed there is no UI in there | |
| [16:02] <kenvandine> where update is updating the apt cache? | |
| [16:03] <Laney> yes | |
| [16:03] <kenvandine> ok | |
| [16:03] <kenvandine> that feels wrong | |
| [16:03] <kenvandine> the user should click the button before we actually alter what's installed | |
| [16:03] <kenvandine> i understand why he did that... but it feels wrong | |
| [16:04] <seb128> I comment on the MP about that | |
| [16:04] <seb128> I agree it feels wrong, imho those who decide to close the tool and do command line can also decide what they want between snap and deb and do the install/remove themselve | |
| [16:06] <kenvandine> oh | |
| [16:06] <kenvandine> i commented as well :) | |
| [16:08] <Laney> at least everyone's in agreement :p | |
| [16:09] <Laney> but I don't really want to have to argue about the other details | |
| [16:09] <Laney> if someone wants to be more loose than me it would be great for them to take over the review :/ | |
| [16:12] <kenvandine> I really don't know enough about it to review | |
| [16:14] <Laney> like why it's better to catch the exceptions you need rather than everything, or why you might prefer to avoid threading in favour of using libraries ... | |
| [16:14] <Laney> meh | |
| [16:16] <seb128> we should get foundations to review the merge, they own update-manager | |
| [16:21] <Laney> that's fine, but I would also be happy for us to own reviewing / uploading features we are driving | |
| [16:21] <Laney> I'm just less fine with being a reviewer if it's a high friction process | |
| [16:21] <Laney> but it might just be me so I am happy to step aside ... | |
| [16:22] <seb128> Laney, right, I understand that and it's fair enough if you want to step aside and avoid arguments | |
| [16:22] <seb128> it's friday afternoon, let's all rest and see on monday what we do next | |
| === vkareh_ is now known as vkareh | |
| [16:35] <Laney> ok | |
| [16:35] <Laney> goooooooooood attitude | |
| [16:44] <seb128> Laney, when pristine-tar diverged between us and Debian what's the right way to fix it? merge the debian one in launchpad and then in salsa merge back that one? | |
| [16:44] <seb128> so we can pull again next time | |
| [16:44] <Laney> checkout the debian side, git merge -s ours lp/pristine-tar; git push salsa pristine-tar; git push lp pristine-tar | |
| [16:44] <seb128> thanks | |
| [16:50] * Laney should have been sassy and said finish the salsa migration :> | |
| [16:51] <Laney> #returnofthefridaytroll | |
| [16:56] <seb128> :-) | |
| [17:01] <seb128> kenvandine, let me know if https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evince/-/merge_requests/229 makes sense | |
| [17:03] <Laney> eek | |
| [17:08] <seb128> oSoMoN, can you push upstream/latest and pristine-tar? | |
| [17:08] <seb128> for librsvg and seahorse | |
| [17:08] <oSoMoN> seb128, doing | |
| [17:11] <oSoMoN> seb128, done | |
| [17:12] <oSoMoN> (for tracker and tracker-miners too) | |
| [17:13] <seb128> oSoMoN, thanks | |
| [17:13] <seb128> (I didn't look at those yet/might not get to them today) | |
| [17:23] <oSoMoN> seb128, what would be the next priority, in case I feel like doing updates later in the evening? anything from the TODO column? | |
| [17:24] <seb128> oSoMoN, no real priority, gsettings-desktop-schemas and orca merges should be easy enough and you have upload rights | |
| [17:24] <oSoMoN> ack | |
| [17:24] <seb128> otherwise anything you feel like doing | |
| [17:24] <seb128> but you should call it a week, it's friday evening! | |
| [17:25] <oSoMoN> yeah, I probably will, but the morning was frustratingly unproductive, so I feel like getting stuff done :) | |
| [17:27] <seb128> :-) | |
| [17:27] <seb128> on that note time for me to do some evening/pre-diner activities | |
| [17:27] <seb128> have a nice w.e desktopers! | |
| [17:27] <Laney> bye! | |
| [17:30] <oSoMoN> have a good one! | |
| [18:28] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone! | |
| [19:01] <kenvandine> @hellsworth gnome-3-34-1804{,-sdk} has been published to stable | |
| [19:01] <kenvandine> @hellsworth from here on out let's not push any local builds to the store | |
| [19:01] <kenvandine> only the LP builds | |
| [19:31] <hellsworth> sounds good to me! | |
| [19:31] <hellsworth> and only official LP builds i assume? | |
| [19:31] <hellsworth> (which i do not have perms to trigger) | |
| [19:31] <hellsworth> kenvandine: ^ | |
| [19:32] <kenvandine> hellsworth: yup | |
| [19:32] <kenvandine> sorry :) | |
| [19:32] <kenvandine> it will automatically build though | |
| [19:33] <kenvandine> after the mirror updates | |
| [19:33] <hellsworth> ok | |
| [19:56] <k_alam> ricotz: Hi, With newer vala hud is failing to compile with dee...error: construct properties not supported for specified property type... Can you take a look ? | |
| [19:56] <k_alam> ricotz: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/468894644/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.hud_14.10+17.10.20170619-0ubuntu3_BUILDING.txt.gz | |
| [20:01] <ricotz> k_alam, hi, try to add --pkg dee-1.0 to the vapigen call | |
| [20:03] <ricotz> k_alam, like https://paste.debian.net/plain/1134842 | |
| [20:05] <ricotz> k_alam, the built binding should be named "hud-${API_VERSION}.vapi" | |
| [20:05] <ricotz> it is suppose to match the pkg-config filename | |
| [20:07] <k_alam> It seems Ubuntu's dee source has it's own dee-1.0.vapi....but I will try this fix... | |
| [20:08] <k_alam> ricotz: Thanks | |
| [20:09] <ricotz> k_alam, yes, and this already existing dee-1.0.vapi should be used | |