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[08:41] <seb128> hey there |
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[08:41] <seb128> what team has right to approve translations template for Ubuntu? e.g https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+imports |
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[08:42] <seb128> I used to be able to do that but seems I'm not anymore, I wonder if the acl changed or if I expired from a team |
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[15:39] <mdeslaur_> I'm getting amd64 build failures with no logs...like https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/18834286 |
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[15:40] <mdeslaur_> is something borked? |
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[15:46] <SpecialK|Canon> mdeslaur_: Looking into it now |
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[15:46] <mdeslaur_> thanks SpecialK|Canon |
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[15:48] <seb128> cjwatson, wgrant, did you see my question from this morning? maybe you can help there? |
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[15:49] <cjwatson> seb128: SpecialK|Canon is the help contact at the moment and I'm trying to steer clear rather than sniping all questions from him |
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[15:49] <seb128> cjwatson, makes sense, thanks |
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[15:50] <cjwatson> (see topic) |
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[15:50] <seb128> SpecialK|Canon, ^ can you help? |
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[15:50] <seb128> cjwatson, I though it was maybe an Ubuntu process question more than a launchpad by itself, but let's see if SpecialK|Canon knows about that |
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[15:52] <SpecialK|Canon> seb128: Hello! I think that's an Ubuntu process question too, but I can see the argument that the LP UI should make it clear! |
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[15:52] <seb128> SpecialK|Canon, hey :) even without change/fixing, I'm interested to have the info because we need those templates reviewed |
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[15:53] <SpecialK|Canon> seb128: I suspect you'll be best served by asking over in #ubuntu-devel or similar if you haven't already |
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[15:53] <seb128> ideally I would like to join (back) the team with the acl |
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[15:53] <cjwatson> Well, working out what team has the authority to do a particular thing in LP is an LP question |
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[15:53] <cjwatson> In general |
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[15:53] <SpecialK|Canon> Fair point! |
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[15:53] <seb128> SpecialK|Canon, I doubt we have anyone around with knowledge of those bits in Ubuntu |
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[15:56] <cjwatson> So I can walk through how to find this |
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[15:56] <cjwatson> If desired |
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[15:56] <SpecialK|Canon> cjwatson: That would be appreciated, please |
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[15:58] <cjwatson> So I couldn't remember exactly where this lived, and ended up doing a bit of grepping for the various status names, which led me to TranslationImportQueueEntry.canSetStatus; looks promising |
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[15:59] <cjwatson> That calls TranslationImportQueueEntry.canAdmin for transitions to APPROVED |
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[15:59] <cjwatson> Which checks the launchpad.Admin permission on itself |
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[15:59] <cjwatson> So off to lib/lp/security.py; AdminTranslationImportQueueEntry defines launchpad.Admin on ITranslationImportQueueEntry by forwarding to launchpad.TranslationsAdmin on the distroseries |
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[16:00] <cjwatson> AdminDistroSeriesTranslations defines that as either you're the driver of the distribution (which is basically ~techboard) or you have launchpad.TranslationsAdmin on the distribution |
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[16:03] <SpecialK|Canon> cjwatson: Thanks |
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[16:03] <cjwatson> AdminDistributionTranslations defines *that* as either in the distribution's translation group owner (https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu → https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators → https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators), or in ~rosetta-admins, or the owner of the distribution (which is basically ~techboard again) |
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[16:06] <cjwatson> seb128 was in ~ubuntu-drivers up to 2011. I'm not sure I see what else might previously have given him that permission |
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[16:06] <cjwatson> Might be missing something |
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[16:07] <seb128> cjwatson, I'm pretty sure I've been able to approve things from the queue more recently than than, I've been the one approving those import almost every cycle in recent years |
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[16:07] <seb128> if I had to guess I think it was still available to me in bionic |
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[16:07] <cjwatson> You weren't in ~ubuntu-translations-coordinators by any chance? |
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[16:07] <seb128> shouldn't I be listed on https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/+members#active as expired or something if that was the case? |
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[16:08] <cjwatson> Yeah, would've thought |
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[16:08] <cjwatson> I'm pretty certain this isn't something we've changed since we hardly ever touch Translations |
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[16:08] <seb128> maybe it was through some other team that got removed/expired and transien membership? |
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[16:09] <seb128> I was part of uds-organiser and other teams that had acl for some launchpad part iirc (just guessing on uds-organiser being an example, might be a buggy one) |
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[16:09] <seb128> anyway |
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[16:09] <cjwatson> It's possible, though I can't see a likely path |
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[16:10] <seb128> SpecialK|Canon, cjwatson, can one of you add me to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-translations-coordinators/ ? |
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[16:10] <cjwatson> I think it would be worth getting IS to help reclaim ~ubuntu-translations-coordinators - neither of Arne nor David have been around for years, have they? |
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[16:10] <seb128> neither Arne nor David are around anymore |
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[16:10] <cjwatson> We can't do that |
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[16:10] <seb128> k, thanks for helping |
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[16:10] <cjwatson> Team changes without admin consent require IS. If it were me, I'd suggest promoting Gunnar to an admin and adding you as another admin |
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[16:10] <cjwatson> Feel free to quote me on that to IS |
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[16:11] <seb128> right |
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[16:11] <seb128> maybe adding Lukasz as well |
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[16:11] <seb128> will do, thanks! |
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[16:13] <mdeslaur_> SpecialK|Canon: here's another amd64 failed build with no logs: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-proposed/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/18834348 |
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[18:16] <SpecialK|Canon> mdeslaur_: Builds should be going through much more happily right now and I believe Colin kicked off retries for (many of?) the ones that failed |
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[18:18] <mdeslaur_> thanks SpecialK|Canon |
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