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[00:50] <lubot> <heysoundude> Uh oh...help! What command do I issue in rescue mode to start my system? |
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[00:51] <wxl> grub rescue??? oh man what did you do? |
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[00:52] <lubot> <heysoundude> I have no idea. I’m looking at a terminal screen with … grub rescue> |
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[00:53] <lubot> <kc2bez> is your drive full disk encrypted? |
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[00:54] <lubot> <heysoundude> 🤔 possibly. It’s been a few years - I can’t remember |
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[00:54] <guiverc> @heysoundude, i usually stop at that point, sysrq-reisub & boot a live system & inspect for issues (`fsck` or file-system check; if it detects & fixes something I'd expect it to normally boot next time...) I'm assuming unencrypted though |
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[00:55] <wxl> agreed. you shouldn't just randomly end up in grub rescue |
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[00:56] <lubot> <kc2bez> I am not sure which version of Lubuntu you are running but if you incorrectly type (or fail to enter in time) your password on FDE you land at grub rescue |
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[00:56] <lubot> <kc2bez> at that point you can reboot and try to enter your password (assuming FDE) |
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[00:56] <guiverc> Good point kc2bez ; my most comomn grub-rescue on laptop is b/c I mistyped the encryption key !! |
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[00:57] <lubot> <heysoundude> I did have a problem booting, and it told me to run fsck /dev/sda1 and I hit option a (yes to all). When it finished, I typed reboot, then it asked me to “Reboot and Select proper Boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device and press a key” |
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[00:57] <lubot> <heysoundude> It was 18.04.3 |
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[00:58] <lubot> <kc2bez> ^that sounds like a disk problem. |
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[00:58] <lubot> <heysoundude> It’s a ~2yr old ssd. |
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[00:59] <lubot> <heysoundude> An HP |
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[00:59] <lubot> <heysoundude> Is there something to try before we call it DOA? |
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[01:00] <guiverc> my suggestion (as before) would be boot a 'live' system (eg. Lubuntu install media & use 'Start Lubuntu') and `fsck` your ssd. The reason for using 'live' is so your ssd is unused when you boot, thus is easily checked & issues fixed with `fsck` |
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[01:00] <lubot> <heysoundude> Ok. Let me see where I put the USB stick... |
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[01:01] <lubot> <heysoundude> If it’s missing, I have other machines I can use to DL lubuntu. Can I maybe go to 19.04? Or should I? |
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[01:02] <guiverc> the 'live' system need not be the same version; ideally pretty modern but I'd use anything 18.04 or later myself |
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[01:02] <lubot> <kc2bez> 19.04 is EOL, if anything you should use 19.10 |
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[01:03] <lubot> <heysoundude> Hmm. Ok. Standby. |
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[01:03] <lubot> <heysoundude> (And thank you!!) |
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[01:04] * guiverc got a fright; I'd not posted 19.04's EOL to fridge; but still a few days left of life.. |
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[01:05] <wxl> don't feel bad, when i posted to the list, one of the dates i gave was in the past XD |
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[01:07] <lubot> <kc2bez> https://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-19-04-end-of-life-and-current-support-statuses/ |
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[01:08] <lubot> <kc2bez> ^ Pinned in Telegram now. |
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[01:08] <guiverc> yep 23rd fitting with https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2020-January/000252.html - notice of coming EOL (thursday 23) |
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[01:13] * kc2bez realizes that he never mentioned that in the stand-up |
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[01:24] <lubot> <heysoundude> Having a hard time getting the torrent of 19.10 to start... |
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[01:24] <lubot> <heysoundude> The USB I found has 17.04 iso on it |
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[01:28] <lubot> <heysoundude> Forgot this machine has avast on it...got it going now. |
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[09:57] <lubot> <devikri> execuse me, is there any rdp client recomended for lubuntu 18.04 ? |
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[11:06] <lubot> <kc2bez> @devikri [execuse me, is there any rdp client recomended for lubuntu 18.04 ?], I use remmina, it works well for me. I haven't used the version that is in 18.04 in a while but it worked the last time I tried it. |
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[11:15] <lubot> <devikri> (Photo, 1280x719) https://i.imgur.com/EvpPByQ.jpg thx, it works well |
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[11:15] <lubot> <kc2bez> Happy to help. |
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[21:33] <retardedguy12345> Hello |
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[21:33] <wxl> hey |
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[21:33] <retardedguy12345> Can I ask for help in this channel? |
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[21:33] <wxl> this is the place |
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[21:34] <retardedguy12345> I've got laptop Dell with Lubuntu 18.04, it has 100mb network, I bought 1 gigabit usb 3 adapter it works like charm for like 10-15mins and then it stopps I have to replug the usb |
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[21:34] <retardedguy12345> Is there some kind of power saving option on the USBs or its something else? |
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[21:35] <retardedguy12345> As soon as i replug it works perfectly again |
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[21:35] <wxl> hm that's strange indeed. have you ever used it with another network? |
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[21:37] <retardedguy12345> Like have I used the adapter on different computer? |
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[21:38] <wxl> no, with a different network |
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[21:38] <retardedguy12345> Ive got only one network my home |
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[21:39] <wxl> well i mean there are other places in the world.. :) |
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[21:39] <retardedguy12345> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1029250/ubuntu-18-04-ethernet-disconnected-after-suspend |
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[21:39] <retardedguy12345> People here say if I upgrade the karnel it goes away |
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[21:41] <retardedguy12345> if i wasnt retarded i wouldnt be here you knwo bRUH! |
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[21:41] <wxl> that's kind of offensive, you know.... |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> All the tech savy users use linux, and then me the fucking dumbest man on planet earth decided to go on linux I cant code i dont understand software |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> and I gotta seek help on forums and irc every single time... |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> :) |
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[21:42] <wxl> keep the language nice if you would |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> Didn't mean to be offensive to anybody expect me |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> Am really sorry, no bad intentions |
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[21:42] <retardedguy12345> Trust me! |
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[21:42] <wxl> what kernel are you running? |
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[21:43] <retardedguy12345> 4.15 |
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[21:43] <retardedguy12345> LTS |
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[21:43] <retardedguy12345> I tried once to upgrade latest relese couldnt |
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[21:44] <retardedguy12345> to latest release* |
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[21:46] <wxl> which specific kernel? |
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[21:46] <retardedguy12345> 4.15.0-74-generic |
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[21:48] <retardedguy12345> When i type in terminal sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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[21:48] <retardedguy12345> it dosent upgrade |
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[21:48] <lubot> <teward001> `dist-upgrade` will only install the latest updates available to your system and the dependent packages |
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[21:48] <lubot> <teward001> it will not upgrade your OS to a newer version |
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[21:48] <retardedguy12345> says the Following packages were automaticlly installed and are no longer req: |
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[21:49] <retardedguy12345> and there is list |
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[21:49] <retardedguy12345> of 5 |
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[21:49] <retardedguy12345> rows |
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[21:49] <lubot> <teward001> upgrading the system is the job of `sudo do-release-upgrade` or similar, and not the function of `sudo apt-get ...` |
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[21:49] <retardedguy12345> Are you sure? |
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[21:49] <retardedguy12345> is this person or bot? |
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[21:49] <lubot> <teward001> the bot is carrying my messages from a secondary communication mechanism |
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[21:49] <lubot> <teward001> my username is teward001 |
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[21:50] <teward> ... or if i were here on my phone, teward here on IRC |
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[21:50] <teward> (same person... |
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[21:50] <lubot> <teward001> ... different communication mechanisms, this is the support room over on the Telegram messenger) |
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[21:50] <retardedguy12345> Ok |
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[21:50] <retardedguy12345> so what is the command to ugprade the distro |
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[21:50] <retardedguy12345> to the latest |
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[21:50] <retardedguy12345> is that gonna upgrade my kernel too? |
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[21:51] <retardedguy12345> As far as i've been seraching the internet thats the command |
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[21:51] <teward> you are on 18.04 yes? in *theory* it should be `sudo do-release-upgrade` on the command line. It should also upgrade your base kernel, but it will also upgrade a lot of other software as well. So before you do this, if there is anything you want to keep on your system you should back it up |
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[21:51] <wxl> that's not recommended |
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[21:51] <wxl> LXDE -> LXQt |
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[21:51] <teward> i also agree with wxl |
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[21:51] <retardedguy12345> what am I supposed to do? |
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[21:51] <teward> if you need the *latest* kernel, there may be another one to install 1 moment |
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[21:51] <teward> *polls the packages* |
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[21:52] <tomreyn> HWE / LTSE is maybe worth a try? |
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[21:52] <teward> yep |
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[21:52] <guiverc> are you using 4.15 or 5.0 (HWE enabled on 18.04; soon be 5.3) |
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[21:53] <teward> guiverc: already answered earlier, they're on 4.15 |
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[21:53] <guiverc> sorry |
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[21:53] <teward> > 4.15.0-74-generic |
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[21:54] <teward> you can either install `linux-generic-hwe-18.04` or `linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge` - the first installs 5.0, the second installs 5.3. |
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[21:54] <retardedguy12345> thats not gonna break anytihng? |
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[21:54] <lubot> <heysoundude> @teward [<teward> you can either install `linux-generic-hwe-18.04` or `linux-generic-hwe- …], 👍🏻👍🏻 |
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[21:54] <teward> it could, not all hardware likes to behave on the HWE kernels |
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[21:54] <retardedguy12345> ok whats the command i'll type it |
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[21:54] <retardedguy12345> whats HWE short for |
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[21:55] <retardedguy12345> how do i get to newer karnel safely? |
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[21:55] <teward> sudo apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-18.04 |
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[21:55] <teward> start with that one, i want to avoid edge first :P |
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[21:55] <teward> that should install the second kernel, if it fails to work on a reboot we'll instruct you how to boot to the older kernel |
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[21:55] <teward> since it won't remove 4.15 yet |
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[21:56] <tomreyn> the !LTSE / !HWE trigger recommends also upgrading X. also -hwe also points to 5.3 now, i think. |
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[21:56] <teward> !LTSE |
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[21:56] <ubottu> The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack |
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[21:56] <teward> !HWE |
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[21:56] <teward> blah stupid ubottu |
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[21:56] <tomreyn> its an alias |
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[21:56] <teward> tomreyn: you may want to assist them with the steps |
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[21:56] <teward> as they've already stated they don't know what they're doing :P |
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[21:56] <retardedguy12345> so sudo apt-get install linux-generic-hwe-18.04 |
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[21:56] <retardedguy12345> right? |
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[21:56] <teward> (and i'm headed home, so offline for a short while) |
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[21:57] <tomreyn> retardedguy12345: please just read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack |
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[21:57] <tomreyn> or if that's too much, run this: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 |
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[21:59] <retardedguy12345> alright @hanks |
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[21:59] <retardedguy12345> thanks |
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[21:59] <wxl> i'm not sure the kernel is going to fix this. the bug report is a mess with conflicting reports 4.15.0-24.26 |
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[21:59] <wxl> oops |
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[21:59] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1752772?comments=all |
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[21:59] <tomreyn> i should have said you also should run this: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade |
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[21:59] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1752772 in linux-kernel-headers (Ubuntu) "r8169 ethernet card don't work after returning from suspension" [Undecided,Confirmed] |
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[22:00] <tomreyn> do we actually know that it's r8169? |
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[22:00] <retardedguy12345> mines |
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[22:00] <retardedguy12345> r8152 |
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[22:01] <retardedguy12345> Thats what it shows in the network |
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[22:01] <tomreyn> i should have said you also should run this: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade |
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[22:01] <retardedguy12345> When I go connection info: shows r8152 |
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[22:01] <retardedguy12345> ok i havent run any commands yet |
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[22:01] <retardedguy12345> i'll run that first |
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[22:02] <tomreyn> tell us whether it reported anything special other than that you can autoremove those 5 packages. |
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[22:04] <tomreyn> this is very old but matches the symptom https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1586195 |
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[22:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1586195 in linux (Ubuntu) "Realtek 8153-based ethernet adapter on usb3 eventually stops working requiring unplug/replug" [High,Expired] |
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[22:05] <retardedguy12345> that command says |
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[22:05] <retardedguy12345> failed ot fetch link |
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[22:05] <retardedguy12345> some index files failed to download |
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[22:06] <retardedguy12345> and the Following packages were auto installed and are no longer req: |
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[22:06] <retardedguy12345> Theres 7 now |
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[22:06] <tomreyn> please run all of this and post the http address returned: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog |
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[22:06] <tomreyn> it sums up some info on your package system state and posts it to a website so we cna look at it. |
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[22:08] <retardedguy12345> sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -y update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog && rm /tmp/aptlog |
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[22:09] <retardedguy123it> https://termbin.com/m8pd |
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[22:09] <retardedguy12345> thats me from the laptop |
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[22:09] <retardedguy12345> am trying to fix |
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[22:09] <tomreyn> okay, the chrome repository needs fixing. |
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[22:11] <tomreyn> winehq-staging is held back, you should see if you can fix this problem sometime. it is with a !PPA |
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[22:11] <retardedguy12345> Thanks for taking the time to help me tomreyn |
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[22:12] <retardedguy12345> What a nice human being, god bless you |
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[22:12] <tomreyn> hehe, you're welcome, but we're really deviating right now. i just wanted to make sure you can use apt in general |
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[22:13] <tbs> guys here helps a lot, i even ask sefish questions sometimes:) |
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[22:13] <retardedguy12345> tbs Like what? :) |
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[22:13] <tomreyn> to remove those packages listed there you can run sudo apt --purge autoremove but that's also for later |
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[22:13] <tomreyn> (those listed under "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:") |
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[22:14] <retardedguy12345> Its removing now stuff |
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[22:14] <retardedguy12345> Has green " |
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[22:14] <retardedguy12345> "process" bar |
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[22:14] <tbs> like can i add more ram to my pc, how can i make my desktop like archman openbox, is there an app like tolwiz timefreez for linux... |
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[22:14] <tomreyn> let's confirm which network interface you have (you can do this in parallel on a separate temrinal window, it's fast): lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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[22:15] <retardedguy123it> https://termbin.com/k8m9w |
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[22:16] <tomreyn> i guess the "Dell RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller" will be the integrated one, not the usb one |
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[22:16] <tomreyn> what does this report: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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[22:16] <retardedguy12345> ye the adapter dosent have wireless |
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[22:16] <retardedguy12345> its gigabit cable lan adapter |
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[22:17] <tomreyn> oh and make sure you have the usb ethernet dongle attached while you run these |
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[22:18] <retardedguy12345> its attached |
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[22:18] <retardedguy12345> to network and everything |
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[22:18] <tomreyn> ok, so what does this report: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999 |
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[22:18] <retardedguy123it> https://termbin.com/87as |
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[22:20] <tomreyn> you can run sudo update-usbids if you want more useful output from the lsusb command in the future |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> Hey Tomreyn |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> just so you know |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> https://termbin.com/k8m9w |
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[22:20] <tomreyn> but the first on this list will be the one we're lookign for |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> where it says 03: |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> is the adapter |
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[22:20] <retardedguy12345> not the first one |
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[22:21] <tomreyn> the second on https://termbin.com/k8m9w is your integrated network interface, the "old" one, not on USB |
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[22:21] <retardedguy123it> pc@PC:~$ sudo update-usbids--2020-01-17 16:20:48-- http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.idsResolving www.linux-usb.org (www.linux-usb.org)... 216.105.38.10Connecting to www.linux-usb.org (www.linux-usb.org)|216.105.38.10|:80... connected.HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OKLength: 614379 (600K) [text/plain]Saving to: |
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[22:21] <retardedguy123it> ‘/var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids.new’/var/lib/usbutils/u 100%[===================>] 599.98K 594KB/s in 1.0s 2020-01-17 16:20:50 (594 KB/s) - ‘/var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids.new’ saved [614379/614379]Done. |
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[22:21] <tomreyn> is you run lsusb again now you will see the first line there showing your usb ethernet |
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[22:23] <retardedguy12345> it cutt off the network on the laptop |
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[22:23] <retardedguy12345> let me replug the adapter |
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[22:23] <tomreyn> it should say "RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter" now. but you don't need to run it unless for yourself |
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[22:23] <retardedguy12345> ye it does |
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[22:24] <retardedguyitsme> pc@PC:~$ lsusbBus 002 Device 005: ID 0bda:8153 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter |
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[22:24] <tomreyn> so that's more useful than what it used to say: https://termbin.com/87as |
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[22:25] <tomreyn> i suggest you still do the kernel upgrade, just to see whether it's already fixed ina newer kernel. |
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[22:25] <retardedguy12345> it seems like the network cuts of after 15-16mins |
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[22:25] <retardedguy12345> every time |
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[22:25] <retardedguy12345> like a clock |
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[22:25] <retardedguyitsme> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade? |
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[22:26] <tomreyn> !LTSE |
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[22:26] <ubottu> The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack |
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[22:26] <tomreyn> this |
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[22:26] <retardedguy12345> ill disconnect the donggle not to fuck it up mid installation |
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[22:27] <retardedguy12345> you tthink thats smart |
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[22:28] <retardedguy12345> uhh it upgrades to 5.3 |
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[22:28] <retardedguy12345> hopefully it all turns good |
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[22:28] <retardedguy12345> if not am gonna have some fun reinstalling |
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[22:35] <retardedguy12345> hey that is done |
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[22:35] <retardedguy12345> do i need to reset for the karntel to take place? |
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[22:36] <wxl> retardedguy12345: sorry for disappearing on you there but the phone rang shortly after you showed up. you do need to reboot for the new kernel to be used. |
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[22:38] <paolo_piemonte> hi |
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[22:38] <retardedguy12345> Thanks wxl |
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[22:40] <retardedguy12345> on the new karnel touchpad feels more responsive |
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[22:41] <wxl> generally having newer kernels is better for hardware |
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[22:43] <retardedguy12345> lets see if the isssue is fixed |
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[22:44] <retardedguy12345> it will take 15mins from now |
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[22:45] <retardedguy12345> Thanks everyone here to helping |
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[22:45] <retardedguy12345> <3 |
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[22:45] <retardedguy12345> god bless you all |
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[22:45] <retardedguy12345> And wish you fantastic weekend |
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[22:50] <tomreyn> retardedguy12345: sorry, my isp decided to disconnect me there, i just got back |
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[22:50] <tomreyn> (i use an irc proxy so shoul dnot have missed much of what you said) |
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[22:50] <tomreyn> okay, let's wait and see if we worked around it. |
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[22:52] <retardedguy12345> with the new karnel the touch soft touch click is gone |
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[22:52] <retardedguy12345> gotta press the pad |
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[22:52] <retardedguy12345> it dosent bother me |
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[22:52] <retardedguy12345> all i want is for the adapter to continue working |
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[22:57] <retardedguy12345> 3mins |
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[22:58] <retardedguy12345> ;) |
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[23:04] <retardedguy12345> it seems like bros |
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[23:04] <retardedguy12345> we fixed it |
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[23:05] <retardedguy12345> wow |
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[23:05] <retardedguy12345> thats fantastic |
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[23:05] <retardedguy12345> <3 |
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[23:05] <retardedguy12345> Sorry for the spam |
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[23:05] <wxl> all good |
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