| [02:33] <Alacriiity> hello! | |
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| [09:17] <frik> test | |
| [09:19] <diogenes_> passed | |
| [10:27] <lubot> Mateusz Konieczny was added by: Mateusz Konieczny | |
| [10:28] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> How can I remove trash icon from desktop on 19.10? … Deleting it adds item to the trash, but is instantly restored. … I tried googling but I found nothing relevant. | |
| [10:30] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> Also for 19.10: how can I type a proper WiFi password after typing a mistaken one? … I made a mistake (because it is no longer possible to see password as you type it) and I failed to find a way to change it. … I also tried googling without results. | |
| [10:31] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> On the good side, Windows+d shortcut to show desktop works out of the box. | |
| [10:33] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> And the third question for 19.10 -how can I get rid of USA flag visible after booting (layout drop-down)? | |
| [10:34] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/KWt08dv.jpg | |
| [11:03] <lubot> <kc2bez> Mateusz the trash icon can be removed by right clicking on the desktop, select desktop preferences, under the advanced tab. | |
| [11:03] <lubot> <Mateusz Konieczny> Thanks! | |
| [11:11] <guiverc> @Mateusz https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.5/nm-tray.html - can't you use Edit connections to edit your wireless password (allowing you to correct error; I've done it I'm sure but don't have wireless on this box) | |
| [11:11] <lubot> <kc2bez> As far as the flag, you would have to change the theme for sddm. I haven't looked at that part of the configuration myself. You may want to check out our manual page for sddm though: https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.1/3.1.9/sddm_configuration.html | |
| [11:13] * guiverc is lost with US flag, I've never noticed an aussie flag | |
| [11:14] <lubot> <kc2bez> The flag drop-down refers to keyboard layout. | |
| [11:15] <guiverc> Thanks, I see a "au" | |
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| [16:54] <lubot> <roheve> you can remove the flag icon by renaming (or deleting) the flags folder somwhere in the sddm setting folder structure. I am unsure where exactly (and do not have that installation anymore). I did not find a way to change it by slightly modifing the theme, but that would be an option too, if you can find it. | |
| [17:23] <lubot> <heysoundude> By my guestimation, 20.04 is only a dozen or so weeks away. Is anyone (non-dev) running it on their daily driver? | |
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| [17:52] <wxl> @heysoundude i know someone on the list was saying they did; in general i wouldn't recommend it with any development release, especially early on | |
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| [19:04] <tbs> hello, is here to talk about lubuntu but not for getting help? | |
| [19:04] <lubot> <teward001> this channel is the support channel | |
| [19:04] <lubot> <teward001> not the general discussion channel | |
| [19:04] <tbs> ahh, i wanted to write ths to offtopic... | |
| [19:05] <lubot> <teward001> #lubuntu-offtopic is what you're after then | |
| [19:05] <lubot> <teward001> (on the IRC side of things) | |
| [20:24] <bwew253tgzwhbd> hello | |
| [20:25] <wxl> how can we help? | |
| [20:25] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i installed lubuntu desktop on ubuntu with sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop and the problem is when i search in panel its very laggy its not on fedora but on tje ubuntu, can someone help? its very annoying for example i write chromium and i neednto wait 4 seconds to see chromium in panel cuz its so laggy | |
| [20:26] <wxl> which version? | |
| [20:26] <bwew253tgzwhbd> 19.10 newest lxqt | |
| [20:26] <wxl> one sec | |
| [20:26] <bwew253tgzwhbd> with openbox and this arc one | |
| [20:28] <wxl> also: why not just use lubuntu? | |
| [20:29] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i think i one time tried installing lubuntu but i used the spyware site lubuntu.net and couldnnt boot then so inused ubuntu since then | |
| [20:29] <lubot> <teward001> lubuntu.net isn't the official resource | |
| [20:29] <lubot> <teward001> lubuntu.me is the official site | |
| [20:29] <wxl> well, there's a simple solution to that: use the actual website, lubuntu.me | |
| [20:29] <bwew253tgzwhbd> yes its spyware i wrote in duckduckgo or so lubuntu and it showed me the fake | |
| [20:29] <lubot> <teward001> we don't control lubuntu.net and it's not the official site - hasn't been for a long time | |
| [20:30] <wxl> i will tell you that the panel is VERY snappy in lubuntu | |
| [20:31] <lubot> <teward001> ^ that | |
| [20:31] <lubot> <teward001> even on my ancient HP Netbook i was testing it on from 2009 :P | |
| [20:31] <wxl> i'm testing it on a vm that is strained to 1gb ram | |
| [20:32] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i have lot of .desktops but idk if its the reason | |
| [20:32] <wxl> ugh windows is such a resource hog | |
| [20:32] <wxl> i mean ubuntu | |
| [20:32] <wxl> :O | |
| [20:32] <wxl> freudian slip?????? | |
| [20:32] <lubot> <teward001> *drags wxl out into the void* | |
| [20:33] <lubot> <teward001> (disclaimer: wxl and I are good friends, this is me just 'joking' with them) | |
| [20:33] <lubot> <teward001> but yeah, Lubuntu can eat a lot of resources out of the box | |
| [20:33] <wxl> UBUNTU YOU MEAN! | |
| [20:33] <bwew253tgzwhbd> yes ubuntu is hard spyware preinstalling snap and cant be fully purged its awesome | |
| [20:33] * wxl slaps @teward001 | |
| [20:33] <lubot> <teward001> :P | |
| [20:34] <lubot> <teward001> let's save the 'spyware or not' discussions for elsewhere please | |
| [20:34] <wxl> we have snapd installed by default (we have to) but there's no core snap installed so it's completely inactive | |
| [20:34] <bwew253tgzwhbd> does lubuntu preinstall snap | |
| [20:34] <lubot> <teward001> because that's a whole other discussin | |
| [20:34] <lubot> <teward001> discussion* | |
| [20:34] <bwew253tgzwhbd> if i write sudo apt install chromium for eyample does it install the shit one from snap or the original where i can use flags | |
| [20:35] <wxl> keep the language under wraps | |
| [20:35] <wxl> apt is for debian packages, snap is for snaps | |
| [20:35] <wxl> you can't install debian packages with snap nor can you install snaps with apt | |
| [20:35] <bwew253tgzwhbd> ubuntu installs from snap | |
| [20:35] <wxl> oh well, there you go | |
| [20:36] <wxl> the debian package probably has a trigger that makes it install the snap | |
| [20:37] <lubot> <teward001> which has been the case since at least the 19.04 cycle I believe, because of my having to debug server packages failing their build tests | |
| [20:37] <lubot> <teward001> (that's a whole unrelated discussion but it's something i noticed early on in the testings) | |
| [20:37] <bwew253tgzwhbd> so why is it lagging how can i reinstall lxqt panel | |
| [20:37] <bwew253tgzwhbd> maybe it would fix it idk | |
| [20:37] <wxl> i would just install lubuntu | |
| [20:39] <lubot> <teward001> Chances are the issue you're seeing is because installing ubuntu then installing Lubuntu on top of that is going to keep the resource-hog stuff from Ubuntu still on-system | |
| [20:39] <bwew253tgzwhbd> u have ubuntu in vm? how mucj cpu is xorg using | |
| [20:39] <lubot> <teward001> which can lead to slowdowns like you're seeing. | |
| [20:39] <lubot> <teward001> and no, wxl has Lubuntu in a VM | |
| [20:39] <bwew253tgzwhbd> when i play games and i use top it shows sometimesn10% xorg cpu ??? evennwitj openbox desktop environment | |
| [20:40] <wxl> then just use lubuntu | |
| [20:40] <bwew253tgzwhbd> would it fix that? | |
| [20:40] <wxl> works here for me | |
| [20:40] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i mean the cpu usage of xorg | |
| [20:41] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i use lightdm but mynxorg is using lot of cpu | |
| [20:41] <lubot> <teward001> the CPU usage of the graphics backend is going to be less of an issue than the RAM consumption of the system | |
| [20:41] <lubot> <teward001> since CPU usage fluctuates depending on what you're doing | |
| [20:42] <bwew253tgzwhbd> and other question can i install kernels from https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=A | |
| [20:42] <bwew253tgzwhbd> can u test it for me very important i need newest kernel always | |
| [20:45] <wxl> currently xorg is running with 0%. | |
| [20:46] <bwew253tgzwhbd> yes but when i use wine games its judt using 10% thenndrops to 3% for some reason | |
| [20:46] <wxl> i mean cpu usage does change over time | |
| [20:46] <wxl> depending on what you're doing | |
| [20:47] <bwew253tgzwhbd> maybe the game is mining bitcoins | |
| [20:48] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds | |
| [20:49] <bwew253tgzwhbd> is amd processor better zhan intel ? my friend said because intel has lot of backdoors it reduces performance is it true | |
| [20:50] <bwew253tgzwhbd> is lubuntu ligthweighter than lxle | |
| [20:50] <wxl> lxle is doomed because lxde is doomed | |
| [20:51] <tbs> :D | |
| [20:52] <tbs> about that topic, i have waited lubuntu would be lighter than this actoally, at least %80 ram usage of current or less | |
| [20:53] <tbs> i have 4 gb ram, at start it uses 11-12 which xfce may see, so i have waited most %10 or less for lubuntu | |
| [20:55] <tbs> debian xfce and mint xfce start with %12-13 | |
| [20:55] <tbs> for my 4gb ram | |
| [20:55] <bwew253tgzwhbd> debian xfce is much lightweighter tjan ubuntu without desktop imo | |
| [20:56] <wxl> xfce would be the next lightest desktop environment | |
| [20:56] <tbs> like i said it uses %12, so not lighter than ubuntu without desktop | |
| [20:56] <wxl> ubuntu without desktop... uhhh... doesn't have a desktop environment | |
| [20:57] <bwew253tgzwhbd> i hate xfce some streams or sounds are by default very quiet and xfce only hasb100% maximum atleast with fn keys | |
| [20:57] <tbs> i left xfce cuz of desktop icon configuring... | |
| [20:58] <tbs> i couldnt find a way to arrange them according to date, at any xfce | |
| [20:59] <tbs> for guys like me, if we work with files at pc, seing items at desktop is importand, not at file manager | |
| [21:00] <bwew253tgzwhbd> is cinnamon more light than gnome | |
| [21:00] <wxl> don't know | |
| [21:01] <tbs> they are smilar | |
| [21:02] <tbs> i need to leave at least 1gb of 4gb ram to them or more | |
| [21:03] <tbs> for example at start cinnamon uses about 800mb but after that no matter what i do, if i do something it just continue with 1 or 1.1 gb usage | |
| [21:03] <tbs> smilar for deeping | |
| [21:04] <tbs> kde s lighter than 3 of these | |
| [21:04] <tbs> xfce is ligher than 4 of these | |
| [21:06] <bwew253tgzwhbd> is lubuntu somehow more secure tjan ubuntu gnome?; | |
| [21:07] <tbs> lxqt s lighter than xfce about %10 which means in 4gb ram it will be ligher about 50mb, so ligher than 5 of them | |
| [21:07] <wxl> lubuntu is ubuntu | |
| [21:08] <tbs> but for lubuntu i also feel like it uses my harddisk lighter, i cant identify it but that s what i think, i have not good hdd about speed | |
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