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[02:41] <17SAA9HNL> hey guys
[02:41] <17SAA9HNL> I need to do full bckup of kubuntu. whts the best tool to do so?
[02:41] <17SAA9HNL> configurtion, system, folders etc.
[02:42] <17SAA9HNL> i found this - https://www.kubuntuforums.net/archive/index.php/t-65830.html - nd it sys I should crete prtition. I will be using n externl HDD. Just wnt to mke sure this will be decently sfe process
[02:45] <Dragnslcr> You could also look at tools like partimage or partclone
[02:45] <17SAA9HNL> imging prtitions?
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> If you just want a backup of the entire system
[02:46] <Denza252> Erm...
[02:46] <Denza252> Is your "a" key broken
[02:49] <17SAA9HNL> no
[02:49] <17SAA9HNL> it's my left side of my keybord tht is not responding properly fter using the keybord too much
[02:49] <17SAA9HNL> it's like some wierd internl buffer tht gets filled nd then the left side of the keybord doesn't respond nymore
[02:49] <17SAA9HNL> the issue pplies for within grub nd windows 8 on my system
[02:50] <17SAA9HNL> so I wnt to do n uninstlltion of the dul boot nd get windows 8 to run gin. if the problem persists, i'm returning the 4-month notebook to cer
[02:50] <17SAA9HNL> sorry, sus*
[02:50] <17SAA9HNL> nd I see...
[02:51] <17SAA9HNL> ok, i see.
[02:52] <17SAA9HNL> "Partimage does not support ext4 or btrfs filesystems." - tht doesn't seem good
[02:52] <17SAA9HNL> i do hve ext4
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> I think partclone is better maintained that partimage
[02:54] <Dragnslcr> I've used Clonezilla, which uses partclone, to create images of Linux and Windows systems
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[03:01] <17SAA9HNL> ok
[03:50] <morgajel> hey guys, I need some help... I just upgraded from the 3.11 kernel to the 3.16 kernel; now after selecting the new kernel from the advanced grub menu, my screen goes black and the machien freezes at the point where my disk encryption passphrase is supposed to pop up
[03:51] <morgajel> if I boot it into recovery mode, I'm stuck at a wonky resolution
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[04:54] <Bomber> i hve some uestions bout clonezill
[04:57] <jdog83> hello
[04:58] <jdog83> idc of having long term support. my question is 14.04.1 or 14.10 for newer linux user?
[04:58] <jdog83> thanks!!!
[04:59] <jdog83> oh yeah Happy Holidays!
[04:59] <jdog83> :)
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[05:10] <Bomber> for clonzill, i need to crete redy prtition for the bckup process?
[05:10] <Bomber> i'm using n externl HDD
[05:24] <Bomber> ?
[05:30] <jdog83> hello, how can i change the image of splash screen? to match wallpaper.
[05:30] <jdog83> ty
[05:34] <jdog83> must be the holidays, quiet in here
[05:59] <Bomber> m I supposed to run Clonezill t boot stge? not inside kubuntu
[05:59] <Bomber> ?
[06:03] <JesseDhammu> hello i am using kubuntu, its default mail application has facility to send the retrive mails only. Unlike thunderbird, which your can configure to use as chat clients, add your facebook, google chat, and even IRC...
[06:04] <JesseDhammu> is there any other option so that i can use Kmail, with all the chat facalities, without opening other applicaitons like messenger and quassel IRC
[06:04] <JesseDhammu> ..??
[06:04] <JesseDhammu> or should i just stick to thunderbird..
[06:35] <Bomber> Hey guys, I think I did mistke by mounting my Windows 8 prtittion to /mnt. is tht bd? cn I unmount without ny conseuences?
[06:41] <buriedalive> Bomber u can edit file /etc/fstab (only root)
[06:41] <Bomber> ok...
[06:43] <Bomber> um....so if i unmount, will i lose the prtition from the disk?
[06:43] <Bomber> or will it just unmount>
[06:44] <Bomber> i men, the prtition ws probblly mounted somewhere else nd by doing wht I did I probblly shifted the mount to different plce. I just wnt to mke sure I don't lose the prtition
[06:45] <Bomber> nd....the prtition doesn't seem to be listed on my fstb
[06:55] <buriedalive> u dont lose the partition
[06:55] <buriedalive> typin in terminal sudo mount
[06:56] <buriedalive> see the partitions that u want to unmount
[06:56] <buriedalive> for example: sudo umount /dev/sdb1
[06:57] <buriedalive> its a dangerous! carefully
[07:23] <Bomber> reset fixed it
[07:35] <MattQC> Hello
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[07:48] <valorie> woah, thunderbird does CHAT? how bizarre
[07:58] <Bomber> hey. i'm still seeking help with clonezill
[08:00] <Bomber> or ny bckup method
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[10:43] <donnie> Is this channel and one on Freenode different?
[10:51] <valorie> this is freenode, donnie
[10:54] <donnie> valorie: is irc.ubuntu.com a freenode server?
[10:55] <valorie> ....I think it is just a re-direct, but don't know for sure
[10:56] <valorie> ubuntu is one of the major users of freenode
[10:56] <valorie> I do know that
[10:56] <donnie> ah okay.
[10:56] <donnie> I have just installed Kubuntu on my system.
[10:57] <donnie> Trasmission-qt isn't using oxygen theme.
[10:57] <valorie> excellent, how is it going?
[10:57] <donnie> I am on Ubuntu 14.04.
[10:57] <donnie> sorry kubuntu 14.04
[10:57] <valorie> well, transmission isn't a KDE application
[10:57] <valorie> not sure how to get it to follow your theme
[10:58] <donnie> It isn't but it has both gtk and qt version. The Qt version does use Oxygen theme.
[10:58] <valorie> you'll want oxygen-gtk turned on, but that won't help with qt-only applicatins
[10:58] <valorie> transmission-qt isn't qt?
[10:58] <valorie> that doesn't make sense
[10:59] <valorie> !info oxygen-gtk
[10:59] <ubottu> Package oxygen-gtk does not exist in utopic
[10:59] <valorie> oh, pfff
[11:00] <valorie> I think that is a selection in your systemsettings
[11:00] <valorie> try alt+f2 and type gtk and see what you get
[11:00] <donnie> I don't think it does anything with gtk. It is a native qt app.
[11:01] <donnie> https://www.transmissionbt.com/ see at the bottom of the page their is a pic of qt version of Transmission. It will look exactly like a KDE app.
[11:02] <valorie> ok....
[11:02] <valorie> perhaps someone who uses that will show up in a bit
[11:02] <donnie> okay.
[11:02] <valorie> I use ktorrent and like it
[11:03] <valorie> haven't ever used transmission, but I know some do
[11:03] <donnie> Ktorrent interface is way too cluttered.
[11:03] <valorie> well, I don't often look at it -- I just seed all the *buntu torrents
[11:04] <donnie> I think kde-gtk-config is broken. The font stays at 12 point. If I change it back to something smaller like 10 points and restart the systemsettings, it goes back to 12 points.
[11:06] <donnie> Even if I change fonts to 2 GTK+ apps look like they are using 12 point or larger font size. Chrome doesn't seem to use fonts I have set in systemsettings.
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[11:38] <donnie> Is Kubuntu the most widely used KDE distribution?
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[13:08] <BluesKaj_> Happy Boxing Day to those who observe it :)
[14:28] <Kolyan> Hello everyone! How can i get KDE SC 4.14.3?
[14:29] <ikonia> use a repo that contains it
[14:29] <ikonia> that maps to your kubuntu version
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[14:31] <tuor> hi, when I'm playing minecraft an pressing Ctrl+Space my kde switches to the desktop, how can I deativate this?
[14:31] <Kolyan> Give me repo with KDE SC 4.14.3 please
[14:38] <soee> Kolyan: i think its not packaged yet for Utopic or Trusty, as all work was about packaging application and latets plasma vor Vivid
[14:39] <soee> the 4.14.3 should be package probably ~ first 2 weeks of 2015, but this is only guess as january 16th also beta of Plasma 5.2 is released and a this will require a lot of work to
[14:40] <tuor> It's only when I'm in fullscreen mode. When I use windowed mode, is shows me the pointer, when I press Ctrl+Space.
[14:42] <tuor> How can I deactivate, that Cortol+Space is doing anything?
[14:46] <soee> tuor: either check maincratfs shortcuts (im not sure how the look as i nevr played minecraft), or search in System Settings -> Shortcuts for such combination
[14:46] <soee> and if it is some global shortcut that might have influance on your apps
[14:50] <tuor> soee, when I login to Unity it works, it does nothing (Ctrl+Space).
[14:51] <tuor> soee, I can't any Ctrl+Space. Is there a config file that I can grep on?
[14:51] <soee> tobiasBora: Unity and KDE are differend DE, so they also might have different combination of shortcut keys
[14:51] <soee> tuor: ^
[14:52] <tuor> soee, yes. That's the reason why i'm searching the problem not in minecraft. So I searched for Ctrl+Space in the settings but found nothing...
[15:44] <adem> hello guys
[15:45] <adem> i have to keep typing this commant to use gui or even cli sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[15:45] <adem> is there a fix for this
[17:24] <emma> Hey flash stopped working for me in Firefox. So removed flashplugin-installer, but now what?
[17:25] <emma> now nothing works.
[17:51] <emma> hello?
[17:52] <ikonia> flash is a real problem emma
[17:53] <ikonia> a few weeks ago adobe issued an update that's stopped some things from working unless you have the newer version, and as there never will be a new linux version it's locked a few things out
[17:53] <ikonia> it's also made a warning appear for a lot of critical software (eg: the vmware web interface)
[17:53] <emma> Apparently. So what are our options? This could be a linux on the desktop killer for a lot of normal users. Like my mom. Who expect to be able to view videos and stuff.
[17:56] <ikonia> pretty much none
[17:56] <ikonia> (realistically)
[17:56] <ikonia> there are many of suggested work arounds, but the bottom line is, flash is dead (in my opinion only)
[17:57] <ikonia> move as much as you can to html 5 sites
[17:57] <ikonia> maybe try pepper-flash, but thats just as bad as gnash in my opinion, and is a worse experience and headache than no flash at all
[18:00] <emma> by 'move' to html5 sites you mean stop using sites you are now using and go to different sites
[18:00] <emma> that isn't possible for normal people under a lot of circumstances.
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[18:09] <emma> ikonia: it looks like Mint did something to help its users. What do you think they did?
[18:09] <emma> Mint claimis you just update and the issue goes away
[18:22] <ikonia> emma: they appear to be using pepper flash
[18:24] <ikonia> emma: the debian wiki has a reasonable write up about it https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer
[18:24] <ikonia> it wasn't so much of a problem until Adobe's recent update that basically outdates the last ever version of Adobe Flash onlinux - to the point of not working for a lot of people
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[18:25] <Guest85762> hello
[18:28] <emma> ikonia: i don't see how they can use peper because peper only works with chrome but mint comes with firefox.
[18:28] <me_> hello
[18:29] <ikonia> emma: you can use it as a plugin with other browsers
[18:29] <ikonia> emma: but this goes back to the hassle I was mentioning earlier
[18:29] <me_> I use kubuntu but too slow
[18:29] <me_> and system hangs a lot
[18:29] <soee> me_: what version ?
[18:30] <me_> 14.10
[18:30] <me_> the new one
[18:30] <ikonia> emma: just as an example http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/fresh-player-plugin-pepper-flash.html I'm not massivly convinced by this page as a whole process, but you get the concept and hassle I am referencing
[18:31] <me_> and system is too slow too
[18:32] <me_> can you please recommend a good and stable distro?
[18:32] <soee> me_: Kubuntu was always stable for me :) Atm. im running Kubuntu 15.04 Alpha 1 :)
[18:32] <soee> have no problems with it
[21:45] <ildefonso> hi all!
[21:45] <ildefonso> quick question, has any of you experienced X memory leaks recently?
[21:46] <ildefonso> I am observing a serious one, from ~300MB to 2.8GB in just over 3 hours.
[21:46] <ildefonso> and xrestop reports and usage of just ~191187K
[21:49] <hakermania> ildefonso: 5 hours uptime at 60MiB
[21:53] <ildefonso> hakermania: thanks, yeah, all points toward a serious memory leak somewhere.
[21:53] <ildefonso> I am using kubuntu 14.04, with AMD proprietary drivers. I'll try switching to open drivers or something like that to discard a possible driver bug.
[21:54] <ildefonso> however, this morning I had a hard time after uninstalling fglrx packages: system would fail to complete boot, due to a problem on radeon module... is anybody using AMD R9 adapters with kubuntu 14.04?
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[22:37] <dario_> ciao a tutti
[22:37] <dario_> come va?