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[04:00] <Tm_T> hmmmm
[06:06] <Mirv> sitter: it doesn't sound bad (like, 56kB .deb), but I'm not really on #ubuntu-desktop. by 16.04 LTS Ubuntu/Unity would not use qt4 anymore anywy so I can't think of why sni-qt on 15.04/15.10 images would be a problem
[08:28] <kubotu> feed branches had 11 updates, showing the latest 6
[08:41] <bukai> Riddell: ping
[08:46] <bukai> soee: ping
[08:47] <soee> bukai: pong
[08:51] <bukai> soee: I have converted the site to wordpress but the index page is all ruined, the slider is not working while the other pages are fine any idea how to fix it?
[08:52] <soee> check javascript errors in brwoser Console
[09:05] <macstar> guys a question... i have uploaded a .deb package on kde-apps.org any possibility to have it included in that installation window which opens when i chose "install services" in dolphin?
[09:12] <bukai_> soee: My header file is-> https://paste.kde.org/pmt8i9yg1 are the stylesheets properly linked? this is how the slider on my index page looks-> http://wstaw.org/w/35Sc/, this is how the latest articlelooks -> http://wstaw.org/w/35Sd/ . How do I fix it?
[09:13] <Riddell> hi bukai_
[09:15] <bukai_> Riddell: I have finished converting the site to wp, and the news feed is also over. But there are 2 problems
[09:15] <Riddell> but a good start
[09:16] <bukai_> Riddell: 1. Index page design is somehow not what it use to look.
[09:17] <soee> bukai_: first why sometimes you adds slash afte <?php echo get_template_directory_uri(); ?> and sometimnems not? see queries and bootstrap.min.css
[09:18] <soee> than you are missing some images probably (paths are wrong?) - are you sure thats not the reason why slider fails ?
[09:18] <soee> do you run it already on wordpress ?
[09:33] <bukai> soee: how do i include this -> <script src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.0/jquery.min.js"></script>
[09:34] <bukai> soee: I tried using get_template_directory_uri() but it did not work
[09:35] <soee> bukai: just put it into <head></head>
[09:35] <soee> no need for any dynamic paths, its static url
[09:35] <bukai> I did , but did not work
[09:36] <soee> define "did not work"
[09:37] <bukai> the index page was not fixed.
[09:45] <AshishLa> I've just installed Kubuntu 13.04 (32 bit) and ive full internet connection but its showing "Unable to find package git" when typing sudo apt-get install git . PLease help . its urgent :)
[09:47] <yofel> ...
[09:47] <sitter> phew
[09:47] <Riddell> oh well
[10:41] <sitter> Riddell: noci...
[10:43] <Riddell> hmm, I feel that needs a change in the script
[10:45] <sitter> the way you merged also was wrong again
[10:45] <sitter> you need to merge from a specific date as unstable would be ahead of the release already if you simply merge unstable HEAD
[10:46] <Riddell> mm, right
[11:11] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[11:11] <_Groo_> for some weeks now parley and kanagram are broken in kubuntu-ci, could some take a look at it?
[11:12] <_Groo_> also apt-get complains that kross and libs arent needed anymore but at every update it reinstalls it anyway
[11:12] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/9v84lhqn
[11:12] <_Groo_> see above
[11:20] <sitter> not brokent hey are
[11:40] <_Groo_> sitter: can you elaborate? :)
[11:40] <sitter> the question really is can you elaborate
[11:40] <_Groo_> sitter: elaborate can you? confused i am
[11:41] <_Groo_> The following packages have been kept back:
[11:41] <_Groo_> kanagram parley
[11:41] <_Groo_> has been like that for maybe 2 weeks now
[11:42] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wt2txXWy
[11:42] <_Groo_> see the pastebin
[11:42] <_Groo_> its missing a 4 i believe in the version
[11:42] <_Groo_> 4:14.11.97+git20141211.0013+14.10-0ubuntu0
[11:42] <_Groo_> it should be 1:4.14.11.97+git20141211.0013+14.10-0ubuntu0
[11:43] <_Groo_> not 4:14.11.97+git20141211.0013+14.10-0ubuntu0
[11:52] <sitter> http://askubuntu.com/questions/347830/how-can-i-get-a-verbose-apt-get-exit-code
[12:05] <yofel> _Groo_: no, the version numbers are right, what does apt say on dist-upgrade? Just keep them back?
[12:07] <Riddell> grr debian git being rubbish again
[12:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: whats the problem?
[12:09] <Riddell> it's slow when I push, sometimes hangs
[12:09] <Riddell> if I wanted slow I'd use bzr :)
[12:10] <Riddell> but seems to be getting there now
[12:18] <_Groo_> yofel: yep
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[12:50] <yofel> _Groo_: please pastebin the result of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -o 'Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true'
[12:50] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VS0IbnFl
[12:52] <_Groo_> can i mix kubuntu-ppa/ppa with kubuntu-ci to install calligra updates? or will it break due to conflicting libraries?
[12:53] <yofel> I don't think calligra should break..
[12:53] <_Groo_> let me try, and see what it gives
[12:53] <yofel> and I really should've added a transitional package for libkeedu-data -.
[12:53] <yofel> -.-
[12:53] <_Groo_> yofel: dont mention it :P
[12:53] <_Groo_> yofel: im the only one that eats the dog food around here :P
[12:54] <_Groo_> i would rather get the calligra 2.9,x series though
[12:54] <_Groo_> cutting edge for cutting edge
[12:56] <yofel> hm, yeah. We should update vivid to that
[12:56] <Riddell> it hasn't been released
[12:57] <yofel> the beta post says january
[12:58] <Riddell> ah it been released, I'm a day behind calligra news
[12:58] <Riddell> it could be a code-in task I suppose
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[14:05] <Riddell> weird e-mail du jour https://paste.kde.org/pitxybhqt
[14:11] <soee_> why ? :) lost soul needs help
[14:15] <Riddell> hi vinay_ ever heard of this guy? https://paste.kde.org/pitxybhqt he says he purchased support
[14:15] <Riddell> not sure if that means from you guys or not
[14:16] <sgclark> morning
[14:16] <Riddell> hola sgclark
[14:17] <soee_> Riddell: i was thinking about 2 small things to pun on the website im working on, oe would ba s small sticker in windew corner that would link to download page (current release) and second a bit smaller sticker to donate, what do you think ?
[14:17] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm going to upload applications shortly
[14:17] <soee_> hiho sgclark
[14:17] <Riddell> soee_: both good things, how do you expect your website to fit in with www.kubuntu.org ?
[14:18] <soee_> my keyboard or my fingers are broken.. every second word is wrong :/
[14:18] <soee_> Riddell: define "fit in with"
[14:19] <Riddell> soee_: will you want it under a different domain? how will they link?
[14:19] <soee_> Riddell: the official website will use kubuntu.org so im thinking about promo.kubuntu.org or something as a subdomain
[14:20] <Riddell> yep
[14:24] <soee_> also my first idea was to have as a first section on homepage some text with screen about Kubuntu but now im thinking about some cool video that will present system
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[14:43] <yofel> Riddell: do you remember why we turned off the systemd support in sddm?
[14:43] <Riddell> yofel: I did it because I was hoping it would help give it logging output
[14:44] <Sick_Rimmit> Hi folks
[14:44] <Riddell> and let me debug why ubiquity-dm didn't transition to sddm/full session
[14:44] <Sick_Rimmit> I have feedback on the kwin_x11 command..
[14:44] <Riddell> yofel: but in the end I ran out of time
[14:44] <Riddell> yofel: turn it back on if you want
[14:45] <Sick_Rimmit> This bug gives lots of problem when I am using G+ Hangouts. I ran the provided command, prior to a hang out.
[14:45] <yofel> I'll do that for vivid then. I switched to systemd over the weekend and sddm runs rather badly without its systemd integration
[14:45] <Sick_Rimmit> It certainly seemed to change the behaviour, although there were still problems with Windows etc...
[14:45] <Sick_Rimmit> However, I got loads of output, that makes not one bit of sense to me
[14:45] <Sick_Rimmit> Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/9529300/
[14:47] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I think it's not a problem with g+ hangouts but with lots of stuff being sent to the screen, videos also make it more common
[14:47] <Sick_Rimmit> Riddell:Oh sure I agree, but the Video wndow in G+ hangouts seems to help make the problem happen more frequent;y
[14:48] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: mFOOgraesslin is on IRC if you want to try to catch him
[14:48] <Sick_Rimmit> So what I am saying is I can use it to test, because I can be sure that if its going to freeze it will when I am running a Hangout
[14:48] <Riddell> sgclark: no ktux in kubuntu-ninjas! that's the most important package!
[14:49] <sgclark> hmm
[14:49] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: I tried running kwin_x11 in gdb then trying to get a bt when it freezes but you're working blind so it's hard
[14:49] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: and in pausing kwin_x11 I then need to switch to a linux console and start a new window manager
[14:49] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: anyway you're saying you still get the problem with KWIN_USE_BUFFER_AGE=0 ?
[14:52] <yofel> Riddell: would you please upload sddm 0.11.0-0ubuntu3 from git? For some reason it's not in the packageset
[14:53] <kfunk> Sick_Rimmit: what's the issue with kwin_x11? also getting 100% CPU spikes with it sometimes?
[14:53] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: we get display freezes at times, seems to affect kubuntu and intel, alt-tab unfreezes
[14:53] <Riddell> kfunk: ↑
[14:53] <kfunk> Riddell: sgclark: btw, I tried using sddm with systemd support and I horribly failed. most of the times I'm getting blank screens from sddm when starting it up via systemd.
[14:54] <kfunk> (I have *no* clue what's going on)
[14:54] <yofel> kfunk: seems to work fine here
[14:54] <yofel> although
[14:54] <yofel> I think I did get a blank screen once.. but I think that was when something deleted /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[14:54] <kfunk> Riddell: yep. also seeing display freezes. alt+tab doesn't help then, though. kwin_x11 is at 100% CPU and I need to restart the whole session.
[14:54] <yofel> still need to figure out how that happens
[14:55] <kfunk> (can't even recover with a 'DISPLAY=:0 kwin_x11 --replace' from another VT)
[14:55] <sgclark> I have enough problems with my nvidia card, I have not attempted systemd yet
[14:55] <kfunk> and stupid powerdevil/polkit still not working properly for me either
[14:56] <kfunk> (after some resumes I cannot suspend anymore, nor logout, etc.)
[14:56] <kfunk> I might have too many old config/stuff lying around, so I might have to try a fresh install at some point.
[14:57] <sgclark> yeah same here
[14:57] * mamarley is glad he hasn
[14:57] <mamarley> oops
[14:58] <Riddell> yofel: sddm uploaded
[14:58] * mamarley is glad he hasn't upgraded his primary systems to KDE 5 yet.
[14:58] <sgclark> Riddell: seems it is MIA on applications list
[14:58] <Riddell> sgclark: should be complete now, I added a script to regenerate that list
[14:59] <kfunk> sgclark: Nvidia here as well. you think it adds problems?
[14:59] <sgclark> kfunk: yes, I cannot use the *buntu drivers at all, always blackscreen
[15:00] <mamarley> That sounds like you might still have bits of the driver left over from the .run installs causing problems.
[15:00] <kfunk> sgclark: hm, works *for me*.
[15:00] <kfunk> kwin_x11 freeze and polkit issues are the biggest leftover issues for me atm.
[15:00] <sgclark> well
[15:01] <kfunk> rest works fine
[15:01] <sgclark> it doesnt work for me lol
[15:02] <mamarley> sgclark: I would recommend that if you reinstall at some point, try the deb-packaged NVIDIA drivers before installing with .run.
[15:02] <kfunk> but indeed. debugging X11/video driver issues is still a PITA, even in 2014. I'm happy that it's working for me.
[15:02] <sgclark> but again, this is an upgrade of upgrade piled with unstable and lingering lightdm brining in all of unity and gnome, so I have many gremlins about, so I need a fresh install, but no time
[15:02] <sgclark> right I know I need new install
[15:03] <sgclark> but no time >.<
[15:03] <yofel> Riddell: thanks
[15:03] <mamarley> -ENOTIME :(
[15:04] <sgclark> Riddell: err looks like ktux was not doen on the first round.. aka no debain merge etc, gojnna be a few
[15:04] <kfunk> heh. just noticed that I had multiple kded5 instances running again (where the hell do they come from?) => killing them solved the powerdevil issue again.
[15:06] <Riddell> sgclark: however could we forget it, poor little tux
[15:06] <sgclark> :(
[15:08] <BluesKaj_> Hey folks
[15:08] <_Groo_> the kwin_x11 freezes with intel might be mitigated with latest git
[15:08] <_Groo_> at least im not seeing them as frequently
[15:08] <_Groo_> try my ppa and see if it fixes it
[15:08] <_Groo_> https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/
[15:21] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:23] <sgclark> Riddell: ktux uploaded to ninjas
[15:24] <Riddell> yay!
[15:24] <Riddell> although I wasn't being serious when I said it was the most important bit :)
[15:24] <sitter> yofel: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VS0IbnFl.raw I feel like there is a transitional package needed
[15:25] <sitter> Riddell: I am reasonable certain the noci trigger only works if it is on its own line
[15:34] <Riddell> sitter: fooey
[15:34] <sitter> feel free to tweak the serverside hook though
[15:34] * sitter couldn't be bothered to bash more involved scenarios
[15:37] <sitter> Mirv: have you pushed qtscript packaging somewhere yet?
[15:41] <Mirv> sitter: not really, since a) I plan to sync it from Debian experimental when available and b) it's one of the modules that doesn't see any changes on average. it compiled fine with http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9529821/
[15:42] <sitter> fails to generate source for me http://kci.pangea.pub/job/utopic_unstable_qtscript-opensource-src/6/console
[15:42] <sitter> then again
[15:42] <sitter> maybe the scriptery is crap
[15:42] * sitter investigates file system
[15:43] <sitter> eek
[15:43] <sitter> Mirv: nevermind, I am too stupid to use tar :)
[15:44] * Mirv ignores sitter :)
[15:44] <mamarley> For that, you deserve to be tarred and feathered ;)
[15:45] <sitter> such word play
[15:45] <mamarley> much bad pun
[15:45] <mamarley> wow
[15:47] * sitter wonders how Riddell managed to cause 2 CI builds with one commit Oo
[15:47] <sitter> it's not right I say!
[15:56] <yofel> sitter: I added one earlier
[15:57] <sitter> _Groo_: ^
[15:58] <_Groo_> whatzup sitter
[15:58] <mgraesslin> sitter: is Qt 5.4 already on the CI?
[15:58] <sitter> mgraesslin: WIP
[15:58] <sitter> _Groo_: yofel says he fixed edu-data
[15:59] <mgraesslin> sitter: as I just thought about it: please remember to rebuild frameworksintegration once 5.4 is in, otherwise the platform theme is broken
[15:59] <_Groo_> sitter: yep just confirmed it
[15:59] <yofel> fixed in git, dunno if it's in CI
[15:59] <_Groo_> it is, just updated my system
[15:59] <_Groo_> kanagram and parley upgraded fine now
[15:59] <_Groo_> gj
[15:59] <yofel> wheee
[16:00] <_Groo_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/kDja2ECd
[16:01] <_Groo_> anyone knows if ci has any option for another desktop settings besides desktop layout?
[16:01] <sitter> mgraesslin: yeah I noticed earlier that the Qt packaging is actually so smart that when linking against private bits it will inject a version dependent ABI pseudo package in the dependency, so one *must* rebuild to get the package to install ^^
[16:01] <_Groo_> its greyed out to me
[16:01] <_Groo_> maybe folder or something
[16:01] <sitter> breeze for example also links against privates
[16:01] <mgraesslin> wonderful
[16:01] <_Groo_> breezing into privates cant be a good thing
[16:01] <mgraesslin> also please recompile kwin as it has some ifdefs
[16:01] <Mirv> mgraesslin: sitter: yes I'll rebuild frameworkintegration and plasma-framework in the 5.4.0 landing silo today/tomorrow precisely since they are on the list that currently depend on this 'qtbase-abi-5-3-2' so require a rebuild
[16:02] <sitter> mgraesslin: mh, I plan to force a rebuild of everything once it's landed. IIRC some frameworks also have ifdef bugfixes
[16:03] * sitter wonders why launchpad refuses to list suitable sources when querying for the correct version
[16:04] <Mirv> although hmm I guess you're in a middle of some transition
[16:05] <sitter> Mirv: I don't think you need to bother with our bits to be honest
[16:05] <sitter> I am about to wire 5.4 into our CI, so we should be on top of things in due time
[16:06] <mgraesslin> makes sense the complete rebuild
[16:07] <mamarley> Is there going to be a PPA for Qt 5.4? I know about the qt5-edgers beta2 PPA, but that one still has Qt 5.4 RC in it.
[16:09] <Mirv> sitter: I need to eventually anyway since those two packages need to land with 5.4
[16:09] <Mirv> mamarley: always refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting instead of the PPA of the day
[16:09] <Mirv> I tried to keep PPA descriptions up-to-date for a year or two but it's easier to have that wiki url to point to
[16:09] <Mirv> so, I've switched from that beta2 PPA to a CI Train landing silo
[16:09] <mamarley> Cool, thanks!
[16:10] <Mirv> np
[16:10] <Mirv> sitter: plus, I want to be able to test KDE5 myself too with the latest Qt, from my own PPA :)
[16:12] <sitter> Mirv: hehe, also fine by me ^^
[16:19] <sitter> I am a bit perplexed by the launchpad api ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/9530112/ I am doing a GET to query a published source but launchpad returns an empty collection, accessing the same url through the browser works fine...
[16:21] <sitter> interestingly setting exact_match=false will make it work Oo
[16:26] <sitter> and it will start working without problems once the binaries are built
[16:30] <sitter> wgrant: any thoughts on why this might happen?
[16:33] <sitter> Mirv: qtwebkit already somewhere?
[16:38] <Mirv> sitter: no, it's ftbfs which would need tinkering bug #1395661. for other archs it does build by the current packaging with the only change being dropping / commenting out the LLIntCLoop32BigEndian.patch applying
[16:38] <ubottu> bug 1395661 in qtwebkit-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Qt Webkit fails to build against Qt 5.4.0 on amd64 and powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1395661
[16:39] <Mirv> sitter: now pushed to normal ~kubuntu-packagers branch what I had
[16:40] <sitter> thank you :)
[16:41] <sitter> shadeslayer, Riddell: thoughts on rolling out stable CI in early january?
[16:41] <shadeslayer> whats stable CI?
[16:41] <sitter> plasma stable branch CI
[16:41] <shadeslayer> mmmh
[16:41] <shadeslayer> yeah sure
[16:42] <sitter> then Riddell also has less reason to complain when he has to do work for stable releases (:
[16:42] <Riddell> sitter: I still need to run various scripts, all of which ideally would be automated
[16:43] <sitter> that's the endgame, yeah
[16:43] <shadeslayer> ^^
[16:44] <sitter> as a matter of fact getting Qt landed in utopic CI made me write parts of the tech needed even though I only wanted to dive into that next year :S
[16:44] <shadeslayer> :)
[16:46] <Riddell> sitter: when you ask about rolling out stable CI in early january what's the blocker there? isn't it just you writing the bits it needs?
[16:46] <sitter> that's the blocker
[16:47] <sitter> also processes should be pretty solid before we go there
[16:47] <sitter> Riddell: libkscreen merge broken btw
[16:49] <Riddell> something changed in the symbols there but not in the source
[16:49] <sitter> no, the symbol file was removed because the soname is different
[16:52] <sitter> mhmh
[16:52] <sitter> qtwebkit build blocking everything
[16:52] <sitter> I think I can call it a day now xD
[16:58] <Riddell> have a nice evening sitter, thank you for your hard work
[17:08] <sitter> but but I am still here ^^
[17:08] <sitter> here and hating qmake :@
[17:21] <sgclark> heh fighting with qmake as well
[17:22] <Riddell> port qt to cmake?
[17:22] <Riddell> I wonder which would be more bother, the porting or the qmake maintainer
[17:29] <sitter> I think someone at some point even had a proof of concept of minimal qt built with cmake
[17:47] <sitter> uh ah eh
[17:47] <sitter> shadeslayer: didn't we have problems with qtwebkit building in neon times way back?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> yes
[17:48] <shadeslayer> path issues IIRC
[17:48] <yofel> what character was that again?
[17:48] <shadeslayer> make sure your path doesn't have spaces or hyphens
[17:48] <shadeslayer> one of those two
[17:55] <sitter> God I hate building webkit
[18:57] <sitter> Mirv: WRT webkit... maybe pch should just be switched off. appears to me even the upstream 5.4.0 integration CI builds on linux all ran with -no-pch which seems a bit dodgy, all the more reason not to use pch though :S
[18:57] <sitter> also I can't put my finger on why exactly it is failing, so I am no help
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[19:31] <BluesKaj> hmm,no printer install options in system settings plasma 5...what gives?
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