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[19:49] <janolap1> Hi there, I'm trying to use Processing to create some visual effects. But I have this message : libEGL warning: failed to create a pipe screen for i915 Smooth is not supported by this hardware (or driver)
[19:49] <janolap1> Does it mean that I have to install a driver, for example using : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/intel-linux-graphics-driver-installer-1-0-5
[19:51] <janolap1> or is there any workaround ?
[19:52] <janolap1> I'm using Processing 2.2.1 for 32bits on Lubuntu, of course !
[19:53] <wxl> janolap1: sounds like the i915 driver (or the hardware itself) doesn't support that GL that it's trying to use
[19:53] <phillw> janolap1: have a read of http://forum.processing.org/one/topic/p3d-issues-with-ubuntu-13-04-and-processing-2-0-2.html
[19:53] <wxl> janolap1: if `lspci -vvnn | grep i915` pops up something, you have the driver already installed. you can see if there's a different driver available, but i doubt it. i would hit up the processing folks.
[19:54] <janolap1> Result : Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:54] <wxl> yeah so you have the driver.
[19:55] <wxl> janolap1: you can use `lspci | grep -i VGA` to get the device ID and google it for other drivers, but it's doubtful they're out there.
[19:55] <wxl> janolap1: if they are, they're likely proprietary and will be problematic in terms of support, maintainence, etc.
[19:55] <janolap1> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[19:56] <wxl> oh maybe you need to add -vn
[19:56] <wxl> there should be something like [xxxx:yyyy] where x and y are alphanumeric values
[19:56] <janolap1> 00:02.0 0300: 8086:2772 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[19:56] <wxl> 8086:2772
[19:59] <janolap1> Ok, I have the solution using an old Processing version... which seems to use old OpenGL... http://forum.processing.org/two/discussion/7134/failing-to-draw-with-opengl-lighting-under-ubuntu-14-hp-compaq/p1
[20:00] <janolap1> I'm trying this first...
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[22:15] <MnstH> hey there
[22:15] <MnstH> I'm having issues with my Lubuntu installation, can anyone help me?
[22:16] <MnstH> I installed a few updates earlier (like most days), and now, whenever I want to log into my account, I get a blank wallpaper and a mouse icon, the desktop won't load... when I log in as guest, it works normally
[22:22] <explodingmango> Hey MnstH, still there? Guess it's up to me to try...
[22:22] <MnstH> sure, query?
[22:22] <explodingmango> Okay, something you can try is to hit Ctrl-alt-T to open a terminal, then type in lxpanel
[22:23] <explodingmango> (I'm looking at a web page reporting a similar problem, if that step works then we've gotten somewhere at least)
[22:23] <ianorlin> MnstH: did you log into openbox
[22:23] <MnstH> I guess I logged into LXDE (?)
[22:23] <ianorlin> does right clicking on the desktop do anything
[22:24] <MnstH> ianorlin: no
[22:24] <MnstH> it's just the wallpaper with a mouse cursor
[22:24] <MnstH> right clicks etc. do nothing
[22:24] <MnstH> I have read at least 30 threads now but some have really funky suggestions so I guess I want to start small
[22:25] <explodingmango> And Ctrl+Alt+T doesn't bring up terminal?
[22:25] <ianorlin> MnstH: try hitting control alt f1
[22:26] <MnstH> I have yet to try... I wanted to gather a few suggestions before I try them all out... I'm on the same machine currently, as a guest
[22:26] <MnstH> so far I have: try to open console with either Ctrl + Alt + T or + F1 (whichever works), then try "startx" or "lxpanel"
[22:26] <ianorlin> can you log out and make sure you are logged into the lubuntu session?
[22:26] <MnstH> and then some sites suggested to revert the lxsession settings to default
[22:26] <explodingmango> MnstH: It's fine, just hitting Ctrl-alt-T or Ctrl-Alt-F1 won't do anything permanent, nor will running lxpanel
[22:27] <explodingmango> MnstH: (whoops sorry I didn't read your message right, ignore me)
[22:27] <MnstH> well, I can't be trying it out and chat with you guys, hence why I said I wanted to gather a few ideas first
[22:27] <MnstH> :)
[22:28] <MnstH> so, anything else I should try in case none of the above works?
[22:29] <MnstH> then I'll try and come back
[22:29] <explodingmango> MnstH: Well if reverting your settings requires deleting folders or files, make sure you back em up and know where to put them back if you need to undo your changes, I guess. Sorry if this is old news
[22:30] <MnstH> the thread suggested deleting ".configs/lxsession/Lubuntu" for my profile (if I manage to access it)
[22:30] <MnstH> .config
[22:31] <MnstH> I wonder what caused this anyway... since this guest account will load everything just fine
[22:31] <MnstH> :(
[22:32] <testdr> MnstH: you should not delete (rm) it - you should rename it - you can even rename the whole ".config" directory to for example: mv .config .config_old then you still have it to recover things from it.
[22:32] <explodingmango> MnstH: Wait, so does starting lxpanel or startx from terminal work? i.e. bring back the desktop temporarily
[22:32] <explodingmango> MnstH: Because if it does you'll have no problem accessing those locations
[22:32] <MnstH> testdr: thanks, that sounds reasonable
[22:33] <MnstH> explodingmango: I will try those out now
[22:33] <MnstH> ok, see you in a bit
[22:34] <explodingmango> MnstH: good luck!
[22:48] <MnstH> well... that didn't work...
[22:49] <MnstH> I can only open the console with the "+ F1" combination... if I try "startx", my screen just goes black... if I try "lxpanel", I get the error "(lxpanel:1744): Gtk-WARNING**: cannot open display:"
[22:49] <MnstH> and now, whenever I want to login into my regular account, it "loads something" and then bounces back to the login screen
[22:50] <MnstH> explodingmango ianorlin testdr
[22:50] <testdr> MnstH: in the login-screen -> press strg+alt+F1 -> in the text-console login with your account and mv the .config to .config_old
[22:51] <MnstH> also, when I login to the guest account, it comes up with an error box that reads "No session for pid 1671"
[22:51] <MnstH> but everything else works
[22:52] <testdr> MnstH: did you do what i said? Go to text-console with strg+alt+F1 or strg+alt+F2 there login and rename the directory .config
[22:53] <MnstH> from the guest account/now?
[22:53] <testdr> no - go to the kitchen and try it from there ... -- are we not speaking about your computer?
[22:54] <MnstH> ...
[22:54] <explodingmango> hey hey. When you hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 it'll ask you to login via text, even if you're already logged in as guest
[22:54] <testdr> MnstH: Do you not know what pressing strg+alt+F1 is?
[22:54] <MnstH> I do, I used it earlier
[22:55] <MnstH> I was just wondering if I needed to do anything afterwards that would require me to login (attempt) to the other account
[22:55] <explodingmango> I guess after all's said and done you can go back and login from GUI, but right now I think everything's gonna happen in the Ctrl-Alt-F1 terminal so it won't matter yet
[22:56] <MnstH> yeah
[22:56] <MnstH> sec
[22:56] <explodingmango> By the way, to go back to GUI is Ctrl-Alt-F7, at least on my computer. Maybe you already know it, but it's caught me off guard enough times
[22:56] <MnstH> yeah, it's F7
[22:57] <MnstH> ok testdr, done
[22:58] <testdr> MnstH: was? .config umbenannt?
[22:58] <MnstH> ja
[22:59] <testdr> MnstH: then switch again to gui-login with strg+alt+F7 and try your account
[22:59] <MnstH> ok, sec
[23:03] <aflag> hello. I'm having a problem with xfce4-power-manager. If I start it with --no-daemon all works, the battery icon shows up and everything. However, if I start it with no parameters nothing happens. The daemon runs, but no icon shows up on my tray
[23:05] <aflag> does xfce4-power-manager daemon logs things somewhere
[23:05] <aflag> ?
[23:08] <explodingmango> Sorry, I'm not ignoring you, I just don't know.
[23:08] <explodingmango> However, does this mean anything to you?
[23:08] <explodingmango> [2014-10-29 17:40] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] :: Xfce Power Manager no longer provides a tray icon. [2014-10-29 17:40] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] Please add the new Power Manager Plugin to your panel. [2014-10-29 17:40] [PACMAN] upgraded xfce4-power-manager (1.2.0.212.g75107db-1 -> 1.4.1-2)
[23:09] <aflag> Hm, not sure. It does show the icon when I start it with --no-daemon
[23:10] <aflag> also, when I start it as a daemon xfce4-power-manager-settings doesn't work -- while it does work with --no-daemon
[23:14] <explodingmango> Uh, this is a really dumb shot in the dark for me: does anything show up in dmesg regarding it?
[23:16] <aflag> hm, it doesn't look like it, unfortunately :(
[23:17] <explodingmango> Ah, quote "There also might be some useful information in the ~/.xsession-errors log file."
[23:18] <aflag> hm, nothing :( I wonder why something like that could happen. I will try to execute --no-daemon in background :P
[23:19] <explodingmango> Yea :/ This might be the same bug here but they never found a resolution: https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/40180
[23:22] <explodingmango> Another quote from another web page: Trying sudo xfce4-power-manager --dump does nothing for a minute or so, then gives me the following message: ...
[23:23] <explodingmango> Same pages suggests what I think you said you'd try, to disable the power manager on startup and add your own startup entry for power manager --no-daemon or whatever
[23:25] <aflag> yes, that's what I am thinking on doing as well :P
[23:25] <aflag> let's not fight the current :)
[23:25] <explodingmango> Yea, diminishing returns
[23:27] <explodingmango> or whatever. Long as it works, seems to have worked for the answerer to http://askubuntu.com/questions/129671/how-can-i-workaround-the-xfce4-power-manager-being-broken
[23:27] <krytarik> aflag: Fwiw, LP bug 1347272, too.
[23:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1347272 in xfce4-volumed (Ubuntu) "Several XFCE applications appear unresponsive after communicating with a daemon" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1347272
[23:30] <aflag> well, maybe some day someone will get it fixed :) Thanks for all the attention, you guys. I will try to login again and see if my hack worked :)
[23:32] <aflag> fyi, it worked :)
[23:32] <explodingmango> Sweet