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| [06:23] <pitti> Good morning | |
| [07:39] <seb128> wgrant, hey, still no vivid translations? | |
| [07:45] <wgrant> seb128: Ah, I forgot to unhide them. Fixed. | |
| [07:46] <seb128> wgrant, which means it's going to start importing? | |
| [07:46] <wgrant> seb128: Yes. | |
| [07:46] <seb128> wgrant, excellent, thanks! | |
| [07:48] <pitti> Riddell: are you looking at the kate file conflict? (cf. the autopkgtest regressions) | |
| [07:53] <pitti> mvo: do you have an idea about https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-system-image/3/ARCH=i386,label=adt/console ? | |
| [07:55] <mvo> pitti: no, that is something that barry will know about | |
| [07:55] <pitti> mvo: ack, thanks | |
| [08:17] <highvoltage> n/win 22 | |
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| [09:40] <themusicgod1> http://pastebin.com/XufeN6b8 tl; dr #ubunt+1 suggests I ask here. Rogue firefox thread caused system to no longer be able to initialize video card on boot(acer white screen of death). Suggestions online suggest to not suspend on laptop-close. Would it be worth suggesting ubuntu use this setting for laptops of this kind? | |
| [09:46] <themusicgod1> (firefox confirms that web content is a firefox process, but it was a non-ubuntu build of firefox/nightly) | |
| [10:04] <darkxst> slangasek, I commented on bug 1391102 | |
| [10:04] <ubottu> bug 1391102 in tracker (Ubuntu Utopic) "[MRE] Update to tracker 1.0.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1391102 | |
| [10:05] <Laney> yofel: you aware of https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/vivid-adt-kate/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console and others? | |
| [10:26] <Laney> Riddell: ^ or you | |
| [10:52] <sil2100> @pilot in | |
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| [11:22] <LocutusOfBorg1> hi developers, can anybody please explain me why armhf is so different from debian? | |
| [11:22] <LocutusOfBorg1> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/190819459/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-armhf.openimageio_1.4.14~dfsg0-1~ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | |
| [11:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> the same program builds correctly on debian, whithout that /usr/include/qt4/QtOpenGL/qgl.h:85:17: error: conflicting declaration 'typedef GLfloat GLdouble' | |
| [11:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> typedef GLfloat GLdouble; | |
| [11:23] <LocutusOfBorg1> stuff | |
| [11:23] <cjwatson> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/FTBFS#OpenGL_and_Qt_combination | |
| [11:24] <LocutusOfBorg1> cjwatson, thanks | |
| [11:46] <caribou> Q: When fixing an old package (python-pywbem in that case) for SRU, should I worry about lint complaining about obsolete build-depends or old standards ? | |
| [11:47] <caribou> or I should just adapt the package to the minimum required to fix the issue (add on new depends in my case) ? | |
| [11:48] <cjwatson> caribou: Don't change things you don't need to change. | |
| [11:48] <cjwatson> (for SRUs) | |
| [11:48] <cjwatson> caribou: Those things are in the "don't need to change" category. | |
| [11:48] <caribou> cjwatson: perfect, that was what I was inclined to do | |
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| [12:39] <sil2100> @pilot out | |
| === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Archive: open | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of lucid -> utopic | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: | |
| [12:57] <ScottK> didrocks: It'd be nice if there was some way to respond to your blog post that wasn't registration required. | |
| [12:58] <didrocks> ScottK: I did have my own system for this, however, the amount of spam, even with some spam filters was just crazy and I ended up giving up on hosting those comments myself | |
| [12:58] <ScottK> didrocks: Maybe App Developer Tools For Ubuntu. | |
| [12:59] <ScottK> Ubuntu Developer Tools of course made me think of ubuntu-dev-tools, which is completely different. | |
| [12:59] <didrocks> ScottK: right… | |
| [12:59] <didrocks> ScottK: sounds good, I like it! what would be the command line in your opinion? | |
| [12:59] <barry> pitti: those are just the typical timeout errors. you have to retry the build | |
| [13:00] <ScottK> It also made me think of http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/ | |
| [13:00] <ScottK> How about just adtu. | |
| [13:00] <ScottK> Short, sweet, and unlikely to have collisions (I didn't check though) | |
| [13:00] <pitti> barry: hm, it failed three times in a row, but I'll retry | |
| [13:01] <didrocks> ScottK: well, like udtc, but people couldn't type it ;) but I'm adding that one to the pool myself, thanks for the suggestion! | |
| [13:01] <barry> pitti: this is vivid? | |
| [13:01] <pitti> barry: yes | |
| [13:02] <barry> pitti: i'll try locally, but i've seen this plenty of times before. si tells udm to download a bunch of files and then no 'finished' signal is ever received from udm | |
| [13:02] <pitti> barry: ah, ok | |
| [13:02] <mdeslaur> @pilot in | |
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| [14:17] <didrocks> Riddell: ScottK: stupid question, but I don't find kdm in vivid, kde-workspace doesn't exist anymore as replaced by plasma-workspace, but the binary package doesn't seem to me to provide a DM, where is it? | |
| [14:20] <pitti> hm, nothing relevant in Contents.gz either | |
| [14:20] <cjwatson> It's called sddm now IIRC? | |
| [14:21] <cjwatson> (No specific knowledge here apart from having dealt with a number of MPs that added sddm support ...) | |
| [14:21] <didrocks> ah, seems so, thanks cjwatson :) | |
| [14:25] <didrocks> as it's sysvinit only, I guess that's why it's not on the list of services to transition to systemd (where it actually is if we want it to work accordingly to /etc/X11/default-display-manager choice and not having 2 stepping on each other) | |
| [14:28] <ScottK> didrocks: Yes, it's sddm. | |
| [14:28] <pitti> stgraber: working on bug 1346734 ATM (I have a first working PoC); do we really want to put logind cgroups into *all* controllers? including "devices"? don't we want to use "devices" in some more coarse-grained/different way? | |
| [14:28] <ubottu> bug 1346734 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Unprivileged LXC containers don't work under systemd" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1346734 | |
| [14:28] <didrocks> ScottK: thanks for confirming | |
| [14:28] <ScottK> We ought to have that work with systemd. | |
| [14:29] <ScottK> It just recently actually made it into the archive. | |
| [14:31] <didrocks> ScottK: I'll push a .service file in the coming days, I don't see any Vcs-Bzr though, do you have a link? | |
| [14:32] <didrocks> (I'm handling debian first, but they need to have a not-that-nice snippet for jessie, we'll get what we'll push in jessie+1 to vivid directly) | |
| [14:33] <ScottK> didrocks: It should be at lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/sddm but it does appear that someone neglected to push it. | |
| [14:34] <ScottK> Riddell: ^^^ can you push sddm packaging to LP. | |
| [14:34] <didrocks> ScottK: ok, thanks! If it's not pushed yet, I'll just dput the change at worst | |
| [14:36] <ScottK> didrocks: I forgot we're doing the KF5/Plasma 5 stuff in git. It's at http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git/ | |
| [14:36] <didrocks> ScottK: hum, so it means people having upload rights in ubuntu can't push it there? | |
| [14:36] <ScottK> In some cases. | |
| [14:36] <ScottK> Feel free to just dput. | |
| [14:37] <didrocks> ScottK: I'll dput and propose a git-format patch then | |
| [14:37] <ScottK> Thanks. | |
| [14:37] <didrocks> yw | |
| [14:43] <Riddell> didrocks, ScottK: sddm is in debian git http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-kde/kde-std/sddm.git | |
| [14:43] <Riddell> in the kubuntu_vivid_archive branch | |
| [14:43] <ScottK> Right. We eventually figured that out. | |
| [14:43] <Riddell> didrocks: turning on systemd is just a matter of editing debian/rules and installing the service file | |
| [14:45] <didrocks> Riddell: it's a little bit more complicated than that if you want to handle multiple dms on the same machine and not having multiple ones starting at the same time | |
| [15:03] <stgraber> pitti: putting the user in all cgroups is fine. The user will never be allowed to grant themselves more access than they already have anyway. | |
| [15:04] <pitti> stgraber: ok, thanks; I now have a patch which I'm reasonably happy with as a first iteration (one bit should go upstream, though) | |
| [15:05] <pitti> stgraber: for now I just tested it in nspawn and checked /proc/$$/cgroup; this now looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/9233771/ | |
| [15:05] <pitti> stgraber: I'll now create a VM with user containers to test it there, but does that look good to you at first sight? | |
| [15:06] <stgraber> pitti: well, cpuset is clearly wrong | |
| [15:07] <pitti> stgraber: right, that one is missing; I mean the idea is that the user session processes are in all controllers in a cgroup that's writable to the user, right? | |
| [15:08] <stgraber> correct | |
| [15:08] <pitti> (I'm not sure why cpuset is missing, it's in my list of allowed cgroups; but I'll debug that | |
| [15:13] <pitti> stgraber: argh, actually this is wrong -- the .slice cgroups are root owned, the only thing that's owned by the user is user@1000.service | |
| [15:13] <pitti> stgraber: anyway, I found the various places in the code which deal with that :) | |
| [15:13] <pitti> and they should be root -- a user shouldn't be able to transfer processes into different sessions, that'd be a potential privilege escalation | |
| [15:37] <pitti> stgraber: so I added the veth config to /etc/lxc/lxc-usernet and the two lxc.id_map to /etc/lxc/default.conf, but I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/9234222/ | |
| [15:37] <pitti> stgraber: this is vivid host (qemu), trusty guest | |
| [15:37] <stgraber> pitti: read the error message :) | |
| [15:38] <stgraber> pitti: specifically, the maps should be in ~/.config/lxc/default.conf not in /etc/lxc/default.conf | |
| [15:38] <stgraber> unless you're doing unprivileged containers started by root | |
| [15:38] <pitti> oh, ok; /me creates that dir then | |
| [15:39] <pitti> that works, thanks! | |
| [15:39] <stgraber> right, the procedure is, create ~/.config/lxc, copy /etc/lxc/default.conf to ~/.config/lxc/default.conf and add the id maps in there | |
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| [16:38] <sabdfl> sladen, mpt, very glad to see you two driving DM ;) | |
| [16:44] <sladen> sabdfl: have you been panning the camera around... | |
| [16:45] <sabdfl> no, just watching my bug email, sladen :) | |
| [16:50] <LocutusOfBorg1> pitti our internship student wants to thank you for this link http://www.piware.de/2013/09/how-to-watch-system-d-bus-method-calls/ | |
| [16:50] <LocutusOfBorg1> :) | |
| [16:55] <pitti> LocutusOfBorg1: heh, yw :) | |
| [16:59] <kees> infinity, pitti, stgraber: TB meeting in 2 minutes :) | |
| [16:59] <pitti> kees: I sent apologies, another meeting now | |
| [17:00] <kees> pitti: cool, no worries. | |
| [17:03] <mpt> sabdfl, we are nothing if not versatile ;-) | |
| [17:30] <tkamppeter> pitti, mvo, doko, around? | |
| [17:32] <tkamppeter> pitti, mvo, doko, it is about apt-daemon, package repository setup and package installation via /usr/share/system-config-printer/install-printerdriver.py does not work any more, bug 1340830. | |
| [17:32] <ubottu> bug 1340830 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Regression: Cannot install signatures in Utopic any more" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340830 | |
| [17:52] <kees> on vivid, what is spewing "calling: info" during apt-get dist-upgrade? | |
| [18:17] <didrocks> jamespage: hey, I saw your docker.io upload, is there any reason you reenable starting docker unconditionnaly at boot (like debian does) on systemd? | |
| [18:18] * didrocks did remove it some days ago (with adding socket activation) and didn't notice any issue with this | |
| [18:26] <mdeslaur> @pilot out | |
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| [21:42] * xnox thinks my ideapad is broken | |
| [21:42] <xnox> lsusb hangs =( | |
| [23:07] <tych0> so suppose i want to rebuild all of debian/ubuntu with a custom gcc | |
| [23:07] <tych0> is there some infrastructure set up to do that? | |
| [23:30] <bdmurray> pitti: the ddeb for libqt5widgets5 for vivid and armhf is missing | |
| [23:30] <bdmurray> pitti: it was uploaded yesterday | |
| [23:31] <bdmurray> pitti: also libqt5xml5 | |
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