UbuntuIRC / 2014 /11 /22 /#lubuntu.txt
niansa
Initial commit
4aa5fce
=== LarrySteeze|Away is now known as LarrySteeze
[01:33] <GBeats> Hi everyone, i need some help reinstalling lubuntu 14.10 using the debootstrapper, unless theres another way,
[01:34] <GBeats> i have to either reinstall through windows7 or the current lubuntu 14.10 i have, my harddrive is setup like this.....[Windows NTFS 190+- GB, Unallocated 20GB, Lubuntu 20GB] i want to reinstall lubuntu and add the unallocated space to the lubuntu partition
[01:35] <GBeats> i cannot use cd or usb, i have an image on my windows partition right now
[01:35] <GBeats> grub2 is already installed
[01:36] <GBeats> does anyone have any ideas or advice :)
=== LarrySteeze is now known as LarrySteeze|Away
[04:49] <g_un1t> Hi all
[04:50] <g_un1t> Is there any way at all to prevent the lock screen from appearing? I've tried disabling it, turning it off etc but it keeps locking the screen like every 5 minutes or so
[04:55] <holstein> g_un1t: i just remove it, and use a different locker
[04:58] <g_un1t> holstein, How would I remove it completely? I don't want a locker
[04:58] <holstein> g_un1t: i just use the package manager of my choice to remove the package
[04:59] <holstein> g_un1t: are you talking about the screen locker with the screen saver? you can search "screen locker".. or "screen saver" and just remove what is locking the screen that you dont want
[04:59] <g_un1t> No it's not the screen saver
[04:59] <g_un1t> it's whatever that comes with lubuntu by default
[05:00] <g_un1t> it looks like the default login screen
[05:00] <holstein> g_un1t: lubuntu 14.10?
[05:00] <g_un1t> holstein, 14.04 LTS
[05:01] <holstein> g_un1t: i would see if its xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver that you have that is locking the scren
[05:01] <holstein> screen*
[05:02] <holstein> g_un1t: the locker is "bundled" with the screen saver..
[05:02] <g_un1t> holstein, I think it's called "light-locker", but when I try to uninstall it, synaptic wants to remove "lubuntu-desktop" too :S
[05:02] <g_un1t> I'm not sure what the consequences of removing lubuntu-desktop are..
[05:02] <holstein> g_un1t: just search "screen locker" in the package manager of your choice.. lubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[05:03] <holstein> g_un1t: lubuntu-desktop, if that is literallly the only other thing, is just the meta package
[05:03] <g_un1t> oh okay
[05:04] <holstein> could be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-locker/+bug/1287255
[05:04] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1287255 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "Disabling screen lock is not possible" [Medium,Fix released]
[05:06] <g_un1t> yeah, that's the one
[05:08] <g_un1t> okay I've disabled the lock screen from the autostart applications, hope that should do the trick. :)
[06:55] <akiva-thinkpad> wxl, ping
[06:55] <ianorlin> not akiva-thinkpad that he might not answer right away as it is nearly 11pm for him
[06:56] <akiva-thinkpad> ianorlin, oh that is just superstition.
[12:21] <suncokret> hello
[12:34] <xvzf> hi there I installed Lubuntu 14.04. I downloaded Google Chrome from https://www.google.com/chrome/?platform=linux It says it missing libappindicator1 but apt-get does not find it. How can I make this work?
[12:45] <Meerkat> xvzf, libappindicator1 can be found for me on 14.04. did you enter 'sudo apt-get install libappindicator1'?
[13:45] <Tj2000> Hi everyone, quick question. When I drag and drop from an smb share it only saves 4.0k. I need to copy and save via mouse clicks to actually save the file. Is there anyway to enable drag and drop?
[13:55] <Tj2000> Anyone?
[13:56] <mrd504> !history 10
[13:57] <mrd504> i was wondering if any one could help me, i'm using Lubuntu 14.04 and the sound on my usb headset only works in skype
[13:58] <Tj2000> No one?
[13:59] <mrd504> sorry i missed your question Tj2000
[14:00] <Tj2000> It's ok. Here it is again... "Hi everyone, quick question. When I drag and drop from an smb share it only saves 4.0k. I need to copy and save via mouse clicks to actually save the file. Is there anyway to enable drag and drop?"
[14:00] <Meerkat> what is an smb? all i can think of is the game.
[14:01] <testdr> the game ist called "ms-windows"
[14:01] <Tj2000> Samba media share. I have an Ubuntu server. I connect using this smb://
[14:01] <mrd504> smb file share
[14:02] <Tj2000> yes. smb file share.
[14:05] <mrd504> i'm looking in to Tj2000 i'm not not answering
[14:05] <mrd504> see if i can come up with something
[14:08] <mrd504> use smb-client //ip-address/share_name then put would copy from local share to smb share and get would be vice versa
[14:09] <Tj2000> Is that with the file manager or through terminal?
[14:10] <Tj2000> Wait, Im guessing file manager. let me try
[14:10] <mrd504> that's through the terminal
[14:10] <mrd504> smb-client should be installed by default on ubuntu
[14:11] <mrd504> if you get stuck once in you can type put help and it will guide you
[14:11] <Tj2000> ok so once I install it I can use the file managerto drag and drop?
[14:14] <Tj2000> I'm using lubuntu. I guess I need the repositories because Im getting unable to locate packages. I'll search and install
[14:16] <Tj2000> I searched for smb-client but most searches brought up "access windows shares"... My server is ubuntu 12.04
[14:18] <mrd504> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=smbclient
[14:19] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: it will access a windows share, but you can also run a windows-compatible share via samba on linux...
[14:22] <Tj2000> Thank you both. I'll try that. I'm an Ubuntu guy so lubuntu is slighty foreign to me. But this is the same scenario that I faced while switching from Windows to Ubuntu. But I'm enjoying it just the same.
[14:27] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: the differences between Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc 'under the hood' are pretty small -- the main difference is simply the desktop environment... anything you can do from the command line is broadly the same
[14:34] <Tj2000> Yes. I got that right off the bat. I did my research before chosing Ubuntu. But I installed Lubuntu on a netbook because Ubuntu runs so slow on it so I chose Lubuntu. I am so impressed that am thinking of installing it on my main,
[14:34] <Tj2000> brb need to restart..
[14:41] <Tj2000> Hey I'm back.
[14:41] <Tj2000> It didn't work. I drag and drom from an smb share and it only saves 4.0k of data.
[14:46] <Tj2000> I its helps, I need to connect to my server by clicking on "go" and then connect to location, and then I enter the address..
[14:47] <Tj2000> I don't connect via "go">network.
[14:48] <Garbonzo> wb
[14:49] <Garbonzo> can you do that with a large text file and see what's in the 4k file as a result?
[14:55] <Tj2000> Thats actually what I don't do. I connect to smb this way. click on file manager (PCMan), input the ip and then connect. I then try the deag and drop......
[14:55] <mrd504> did it not work on the command line either?
[14:56] <mrd504> while we're at it? any one got any advice for my sound issue?
[14:58] <Tj2000> I'm trying to avoid the command line for this task. I just want to drag and drop small files. If it were big files like >50mb I wouls use scp.
[14:58] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: what i meant was, please can you try and replicate the error but use a biggish text file as a source. Then you can open the destination file in an editor and see whether it's truncated the original file down to 4K, or put something else in there instead.
[15:00] <Tj2000> You mean use a .txt as the file I'm dragging and dropping?
[15:00] <mrd504> yep
[15:00] <Garbonzo> well, an anything with text content that's >4k before it's copied from the share
[15:00] <Tj2000> I'm tryin to DnD a movie file.
[15:01] <Garbonzo> yes, but this might help a little with diagnosis
[15:01] <Tj2000> Oh.
[15:02] <Garbonzo> just to see if that 4k contains actual data or cruft from the copying process
[15:02] <Tj2000> yes.'
[15:02] <Tj2000> how "biggish"?
[15:03] <Tj2000> MB's?
[15:03] <Garbonzo> doesn't need to be. just something significantly over the original 4K
[15:05] <Tj2000> I just did 7.3kib
[15:05] <Garbonzo> what size is the destination file after drag and drop? 7.3 or 4K?
[15:05] <Tj2000> 7.3 but its a .html file.
[15:05] <Garbonzo> and what do you see if you open it in a text editor?
[15:06] <Tj2000> [Desktop Entry] Type=Link Name=index.html Icon=text-html URL=smb://192.168.1.131/html/index.html
[15:06] <Tj2000> Pretty much the origin,,
[15:07] <Garbonzo> looks more like some sort of link rather than the contents of anything useful...
[15:10] <Garbonzo> seems like it's copying the desktop environment's description for the file rather than any meaningful content!
[15:13] <Tj2000> Yes, I opened with leafpad and abiword. It seems like DnD just makes shortcuts. BTW Garbonzo have you tried switching between alsa, pulse, etc. I had an earphone problem similar to yours, not through usb though, but it worked.
[15:16] <mrd504> Tj2000 that was the problem I was having, yea I've had similar before and installed pulseaudio to fix it, doesn't seem to have worked this time round though
[15:17] <Tj2000> ahh, does it need drivers? what brand
[15:18] <mrd504> its logitech, but like I says it is working when using skype
[15:18] <mrd504> and I have even set it in the asound.conf file to use the headset by default
[15:18] <mrd504> but that didn't work either
[15:18] <Tj2000> tried changing ports?
[15:19] <mrd504> no but I don't really want to use the only usb3.0 port for headphones
[15:19] <Tj2000> what mixer does skype use
[15:19] <Tj2000> oh wait.
[15:20] <mrd504> pulseaudio
[15:21] <Tj2000> have you checked the sound controls? is it using pulse
[15:21] <mrd504> that's definitely using alsa
[15:21] <mrd504> just trying to uninstall alsa now
[15:21] <Tj2000> yeah
[15:21] <Tj2000> that was my problem
[15:25] <mrd504> that's done the trick
[15:25] <mrd504> can't turn the f**ker down now
[15:25] <mrd504> needs alsa-utils
[15:26] <Tj2000> Really it worked?
[15:26] <Tj2000> all sound besides skype work?
[15:26] <mrd504> it did, i uninstalled both alsa and pulseaudio, reinstalled pulseaudio and ran pulseaudio -k
[15:26] <mrd504> skype always worked, now all sound works
[15:26] <Tj2000> awesome...
[15:26] <Tj2000> congrats
[15:27] <mrd504> thanks for that, now where are we with your samba??
[15:28] <Tj2000> don't worry about that. its not really a problem cos I have a work around. right clicking copy and paste isnt a problem.
[15:28] <Tj2000> I don't mind it.
[15:28] <mrd504> ah that's alright then
[15:29] <mrd504> but dragging and dropping makes a shortcut?
[15:29] <mrd504> is that a specific sambaism?
[15:29] <Tj2000> milliseconds in trying to accomplish something isnt that a big a deal to me.
[15:30] <mrd504> fair enough
[15:30] <Tj2000> I just wanted to "Know" how to fix it so it matched what I wanted.
[15:32] <Tj2000> No biggie, I'm just glad I helped someone on in the process. That is what Ubuntu/Lubuntu etc is about.
[15:32] <mrd504> yep I shall definitely be attending this group more
[15:33] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: nope, not lately with the sound issue. My main Lubuntu is on an ancient Toughbook, which seems to be headphones-only in Linux...
[15:34] <Tj2000> Cool. We need that. Greatful people helping others.
[15:37] <Tj2000> Huh Garbonzo?
[15:39] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: you mentioned audio things ~20 mins ago. Replied to that...
[15:40] <Tj2000> Did you need help with audio stuff?
[15:40] <Tj2000> of just mrd504
[15:40] <Tj2000> *or
[15:41] <Garbonzo> No, but you mentioned me specifically in an audio-related post back then. So i replied! :-)
[15:41] <mrd504> all my problems are sorted, thank you :)
[15:41] <mrd504> now listening to a bit of korn :)
[15:42] <Tj2000> oh, my bad Garbonzo.
[15:42] <Garbonzo> Tj2000: no problem!
[15:43] <Tj2000> mrd504 Shoot and ladders...
[15:43] <Tj2000> ^shoots
[15:43] <mrd504> :)
[15:44] <Tj2000> Goodnight all. Have a good day/night
[15:44] <mrd504> night Tj2000
[15:44] <Garbonzo> mrd504: i suppose listening to korn beats listening to `echo korn | sed s/k/p/`
[15:44] <Garbonzo> :-)
[15:44] <mrd504> ha! skypes broke now
[15:45] <Garbonzo> skype should remain forever broken (shudders)
[15:45] <mrd504> lol!
[15:45] <mrd504> i actually agree
[15:45] <Garbonzo> but it is useful now and then
[15:47] <mrd504> yes i have my old colleagues on it, useful for moving jobs
[15:49] <Garbonzo> also useful for elderly relatives etc
[15:56] <mrd504> ok quick restart and skype's working again
[15:58] <Garbonzo> mrd504: cool
[19:43] <xsi> I installed lxpanel. What's the main config file. I have to remove special effects when window mininization
[19:44] <xsi> as well as delay menu effects
[19:44] <ianorlin> xsi: that is not an lxpanel config
[19:46] <ianorlin> it is in ~/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml change <AnimateIconify>Yes</AnimateIconify> to no
[19:51] <spicypixel> so with 14.10 being a bug fix release before migrating to lxqt, is the upgrade path from 14.10 to 15.04 going to be simple? Can I install lubuntu and be happy knowing I don't need to bin my OS and start again to upgrade to a new release?
[19:53] <ianorlin> spicypixel: I think there will be an upgrade path but not sure how clean it will be
[19:53] <ianorlin> you could of course use 14.04 if worried about that but it sounds like you have 14.10 installed
[19:53] <ianorlin> you should back up your data anyway when upgrading
[19:53] <spicypixel> fair enough
[19:53] <ianorlin> well right before updating
[19:53] <ianorlin> so reinstall is worst case
[19:54] <spicypixel> that being said given lxqt is basically built on razor qt iirc instead of anything used before I'm sure it'll all be completely different
[19:54] <spicypixel> bit of a pain I guess
[20:03] <phillw> spicypixel: at present, lxqt will be around at 15.10. We need it there to satisfy tech board rules for a switch of LTS for 16.04. Until then, I'd follow joern's advice of lxqt components at risk of eating kittens. They will try not to, but... heck... a cute little kitten and a slightly maverick OS... who knows :)
[20:03] <spicypixel> gotcha
[20:10] <phillw> spicypixel: as the gtk lubuntu hits alpha 1 for 15.04, I will nag our heap of dev to death to get an update on the path. I know pcman has recently put out a note stating that gtk will be supported (and some gtk3 stuff has been done).
[20:10] <phillw> s/heap/head
[20:11] <phillw> wxl / jared do you have the link handy for pcman's email about lxde and GTK?
[20:56] <kader2014> Bonsoir y'a t il quelqu'unqui parle français??
[20:57] <silverlion> kader2014, la langue ici c'est l'anglais
[20:58] <kader2014> merci mais au moin je vous ai trouvé
[20:59] <kader2014> ok
[20:59] <kader2014> i have a problem with my system
[20:59] <silverlion> ok
[21:01] <silverlion> kader2014, maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-fr for help
[21:01] <kader2014> when I start the system peuxpas I access my office, I see a black screen
[21:02] <silverlion> there they do support in french
[21:02] <kader2014> but i have lubuntu 14.04
[21:02] <kader2014> but i wrote about the problem in english
[21:03] <silverlion> kader2014, it was just a suggestion
[21:06] <kader2014> thank you, you know what is the solution?
[21:08] <silverlion> not yet but I am still looking for you
[21:09] <kader2014> thank you my friend
[21:10] <silverlion> kader2014, did you get some upgrades before?
[21:11] <kader2014> from?
[21:11] <silverlion> 13.10 -> 14.04
[21:11] <kader2014> from 14.04 to 14.10?
[21:11] <kader2014> no i didn't
[21:12] <kader2014> but i wanna to do it from 14.04 to 1410
[21:12] <silverlion> kader2014, I'd say you make a back-up of your data and do a clean install of 14.10
[21:13] <silverlion> it sounds to me that something with your grafics card is missing
[21:13] <silverlion> but that's only a wild guess
[21:13] <silverlion> I have no idea how this is to explain
[21:14] <kader2014> yes perheps
[21:26] <kader2014> thank ou silverlion, goodbye
=== Garbonzo_its_me_ is now known as Garbono
=== Garbono is now known as Garbonzo
[23:36] <dev__> Hi, a newbie question. I just created a new user and when I log in as that user and open lxterminal I don't get a prompt. The googling I've done seems to indicate that it's a permissions thing, but what's mentioned doesn't fix my problem. Can anyone talk me through trouble shooting this?
[23:41] <silverlion> dev__, did you alter the permissions in the users chart?
[23:42] <dev__> silverlion, no I didn't alter the users chart. I don't even know what that is: )
[23:44] <silverlion> dev__, have you checked the permissions with your current account?
[23:44] <silverlion> there need to be differences
[23:45] <dev__> silverlion, what permissions are you referring to?
[23:45] <silverlion> dev__, ok, let's start from the beginning
[23:45] <silverlion> what do you need that new user for?
[23:46] <silverlion> aka what does that user need to do? does it need to be an Admin or is "regular user" enough?
[23:47] <dev__> silverlion, I provision my development tools using a puppet module. That module creates a user 'dev' that I normally work under when doing development work.
[23:47] <silverlion> I don't have any clue about dev stuff :(
[23:47] <silverlion> sorry
[23:49] <dev__> silverlion, I guess a regular user is enough as long as I can sudo and supply a password when needed. The problem doesn't seem to be development related. It's just that the new user 'dev' just can't open a lxterminal that works. Xterm works. If I open xterm and change to root and then open an lxterminal it works.
[23:49] <dev__> silverlion,
[23:49] <dev__> I added the user to the sudo group, if that's relevant.
[23:50] <silverlion> dev__, not necessarily
[23:50] <silverlion> I need to reproduce the situation. gimme a min