| [01:55] <axp_> Hi ! | |
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| [07:06] <didrocks> morning | |
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| [08:42] <seb128> good morning desktopers, happy friday | |
| [08:42] <seb128> mvo, hey, does https://code.launchpad.net/~feng-kylin/software-properties/fix-1306494/+merge/240081 look fine to you? | |
| [08:43] <didrocks> morning seb128 | |
| [08:43] <seb128> lut didrocks ;-) | |
| [08:44] <mvo> seb128: let me check | |
| [08:44] <mvo> seb128: totally | |
| [08:44] <seb128> mvo, should I merge/upload it? | |
| [08:44] <mvo> seb128: go for it | |
| [08:44] <mvo> thanks | |
| [08:44] <seb128> mvo, thanks | |
| [08:56] <ari-tczew> hello | |
| [08:57] <ari-tczew> I've proposed a merge of simple-scan, would be nice to get it reviewed ;-) https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/simple-scan/ubuntu/+merge/242459 | |
| [08:59] <didrocks> hey ari-tczew ;) | |
| [08:59] <ari-tczew> hey didrocks | |
| [08:59] <didrocks> I guess seb128 is piloting (not sure if he would prefer robert_ancell to review it next week though) | |
| [09:00] <didrocks> ari-tczew: I just looked quickly, I don't think we would to depend on adwaita-icon-theme, | |
| [09:00] <seb128> yeah, that's robert_ancell's land | |
| [09:01] <didrocks> anyway, simple-scan is in main, and adwaita-icon-theme in universe, so either way, either a MIR or depends back on gnome-icon-theme instead | |
| [09:01] <didrocks> (I think we want the latest, we don't want to have some icons not matching the ubuntu theme installed by default) | |
| [09:02] <seb128> mvo, could you also look at https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/software-properties/lp1381050/+merge/238873 and https://code.launchpad.net/~brunonova/software-properties/lp1383289/+merge/238890 ? they are small ones as well | |
| [09:02] <didrocks> the rest lgtm, but you should really poke robert | |
| [09:03] <ari-tczew> didrocks: You're right, adwaita-icon-theme is in universe and we should drop this one depend. I'll update branch ASAP. | |
| [09:04] <Laney> hullo thur huppy fruday | |
| [09:05] <didrocks> hey hey Mr Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaney! :) | |
| [09:05] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday! | |
| [09:05] <Laney> what's up fool | |
| [09:05] * Laney is a gangster now | |
| [09:06] <didrocks> Friday \o/ | |
| [09:06] <Laney> \o/ | |
| [09:07] <Laney> hey seb128, good day off? | |
| [09:08] <willcooke> morning all, I'm still ill. Going back to bed. Will keep an eye on IRC/mail should anyone want me. | |
| [09:08] <seb128> hey willcooke | |
| [09:08] <willcooke> larsu, ^^^ can we skip our meeting? | |
| [09:09] <willcooke> hey seb128 | |
| [09:09] <seb128> got the flu? | |
| [09:09] <didrocks> get some rest willcooke | |
| [09:09] <willcooke> yeah think so. Sore throat, cough, headache, etc | |
| [09:09] <seb128> k, get better! | |
| [09:10] <willcooke> didrocks, Laney - thanks for covering the meeting yesterday | |
| [09:10] <Laney> np, it was a blast! | |
| [09:10] <didrocks> yw | |
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| [09:19] <mvo> seb128: sure, having a look now | |
| [09:19] <mvo> willcooke: get well! | |
| [09:19] <seb128> mvo, danke | |
| [09:21] <darkxst> didrocks, I am pretty sure there are some new icons in adwaita-icon-theme needed for 3.14 | |
| [09:22] <darkxst> so either those need to be copied across to gnome-icon-theme, or adwaita-icon-theme needs an MIR (with merge of packaging split like gnome-icon-theme) | |
| [09:23] <larsu> willcooke: of course. Get better! | |
| [09:23] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, that's maybe a good point. Not related to simple-scan though as we already have 3.14 here | |
| [09:24] <tjaalton> did some fonts change in utopic.. I get either blank space or utf code boxes instead of text in some cases in firefox & thunderbird | |
| [09:24] <tjaalton> and when pasted on a terminal I see the text | |
| [09:25] <darkxst> didrocks, no not related to simple scan, but possibly needed when gtk 3.14 lands | |
| [09:27] <didrocks> agreed | |
| [09:28] <tjaalton> gnome-font-viewer crashes | |
| [09:37] <tjaalton> hm, I can only change the font size, not the font itself.. something is most def broken | |
| [09:41] <seb128> tjaalton, I had issues like that but that looked like xorg stack issues | |
| [09:41] <seb128> e.g restarting the session makes them go away | |
| [09:44] <Laney> ooh | |
| [09:44] <Laney> a new and exciting dpkg failure | |
| [09:44] <Laney> "cycle found while processing triggers" | |
| [09:45] <tjaalton> seb128: gnome stack, but ok | |
| [09:53] <tjaalton> no help here | |
| [09:58] <mvo> seb128: do you want me merge/upload the software-properties stuff or shall I do it? | |
| [09:59] <seb128> mvo, as you wish, I'm fine doing the merge/test/upload if you approve the mps, but it you want to do that feel free as well ;-) | |
| [10:00] <mvo> seb128: ok, let me do it then | |
| [10:01] <seb128> mvo, danke | |
| [10:18] <willcooke> hey mzanetti | |
| [10:18] <mzanetti> hey willcooke | |
| [10:18] <mzanetti> so, seb128, soon we're getting the preliminary desktop thing in unity8 landed | |
| [10:19] <seb128> mzanetti, \o/ | |
| [10:19] <mzanetti> and for now we'd require a gsettings override to activate it (until he have some sort of convergence rule thingie) | |
| [10:19] <mzanetti> what would you suggest where to put that? | |
| [10:20] <Laney> ubuntu-settings | |
| [10:20] <mzanetti> that's not installed on phone/tablet right? | |
| [10:20] <Laney> no there is -touch-settings for that | |
| [10:21] <Laney> (check seeded-in-ubuntu ubuntu-settings) | |
| [10:22] <larsu> hi Laney! | |
| [10:22] <Laney> what up larsu | |
| [10:22] <larsu> sencha vanilla | |
| [10:22] <larsu> it's awesome, who'd have thought | |
| [10:22] <Laney> english breakfast \m/ >_< \m/ | |
| [10:23] <larsu> of course :P | |
| [10:23] <larsu> how are you? | |
| [10:23] <seb128> mzanetti, you want to know where to install the gsettings key? | |
| [10:24] <mzanetti> seb128: I'm currently searching launchpad for it, got lost in some Infinity OS Settings project :D | |
| [10:24] <mzanetti> seb128: so yeah, please tell me :) | |
| [10:25] <seb128> mzanetti, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gsettings-ubuntu-touch-schemas I guess | |
| [10:26] <seb128> Laney, ubuntu(-touch)-settings is about defaults iirc? | |
| [10:26] <seb128> it doesn't have a schemas | |
| [10:26] <Laney> he asked for somewhere to put an override | |
| [10:26] <seb128> no he didn't | |
| [10:26] <seb128> oh | |
| [10:26] <seb128> or I misread | |
| [10:26] <seb128> mzanetti, is the key in e.g the unity8 schemas and you just want to override the value? | |
| [10:26] <mzanetti> seb128: ah wait, we have a key in unity8, given it's temporary for sure (convergence will work different) | |
| [10:27] <seb128> or do you look at where to define the key? | |
| [10:27] <seb128> oh ok | |
| [10:27] <seb128> so what Laney said | |
| [10:27] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-settings | |
| [10:27] <Laney> apt-get source ubuntu-settings, look in debian/...override, should be obvious what to do but shout if not | |
| [10:27] <mzanetti> exactly, we just want to automatically enable the windowed mode if you run it from unity8-desktop-session-mir somehow | |
| [10:27] <seb128> that's not going to work for your case I think though | |
| [10:29] <larsu> mzanetti: how will convergence work? | |
| [10:29] * larsu hates temporary solutions | |
| [10:29] <Laney> I think effectively everyone will have it installed, but you could otherwise have a new file in the session package which does this | |
| [10:31] <seb128> Laney, mzanetti, the issue is that desktop next has both ubuntu-settings and ubuntu-touch-settings installed | |
| [10:31] <seb128> so either we need to put an higher priority override in desktop | |
| [10:31] <Laney> why's that an issue? | |
| [10:31] <Laney> there will be one override | |
| [10:31] <seb128> it makes the behaviour a bit randomp | |
| [10:31] <Laney> don't understand | |
| [10:32] <mzanetti> seb128: I guess we're fine as long as the override is NOT installed on phone/tablet | |
| [10:32] <mzanetti> larsu: thsi should explain why we won't have a config value in the end: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1K1oV4vMc-FduKUNYYO62zPUCU5WMb74zjer8KzYzhLg/edit#slide=id.p | |
| [10:32] <seb128> Laney, I don't feel confident that we are not going to get ubuntu-settings installed on some tablet sort of installs at some point | |
| [10:32] <seb128> it feels hackish to depends on what packages are installed | |
| [10:33] <seb128> but at the same time having defaults for touch and non touch seems hackish as well | |
| [10:33] <seb128> so maybe it's ok as a temporary thing | |
| [10:34] <seb128> it would feel more robust if the session job was setting it | |
| [10:34] <larsu> won't we get different defaults depending on XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP? | |
| [10:34] <mzanetti> seb128: yeah, I tend to agree | |
| [10:34] <larsu> could use the same mechanism for this | |
| [10:34] <seb128> larsu, the day we have that we can use them yes | |
| [10:34] <seb128> larsu, but we don't atm iirc | |
| [10:34] <larsu> seb128: I know... I reviewed desrt's patch again but he didn't reply yet (vacation and all) | |
| [10:35] <larsu> seb128: I'll annoy him about it again | |
| [10:35] <seb128> getting there :-) | |
| [10:35] <seb128> thanks | |
| [10:35] <Laney> you can override it in the desktop session package if you want, I don't think it really matters for some hack | |
| [10:35] <Laney> looking at $DESKTOP_SESSION would feel nicer to me | |
| [10:36] <larsu> where's the difference between the two? | |
| [10:36] <larsu> desktop_session and xdg_current_desktop | |
| [10:36] <Laney> DESKTOP_SESSION is just the name of the .session file | |
| [10:36] <Laney> it works now :-) | |
| [10:37] <mzanetti> can we have gsettings overrides at login based on such a env var? | |
| [10:37] <mzanetti> I'm asking for that because we'd like to be able to switch it at runtime | |
| [10:37] <larsu> Laney: oh right. Ya, this should have been finished a long time ago, but desrt and I shaved a yak... | |
| [10:37] <mzanetti> atm you can change the dconf key and it'll transform on the fly between the tablet looks and the desktop mode | |
| [10:38] <larsu> mzanetti: yes, that's the plan | |
| [10:39] <mzanetti> cool | |
| [10:46] <darkxst> mzanetti, its not possible to do per-session gsettings overrides, so they need to be done in code | |
| [10:49] <darkxst> it would certainly be useful though upstream don't seem to interested in the idea | |
| [10:54] <mzanetti> hmm | |
| [10:57] <mzanetti> so how are we going to proceed with this? | |
| [10:59] <darkxst> mzanetti, you need to write code to check the env var | |
| [10:59] <larsu> darkxst: we just talked about this, we want to add being being able to change defaults based on XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP | |
| [11:00] <darkxst> larsu, that is not possible with gsettings overrides | |
| [11:00] <Laney> mzanetti: ubuntu-settings or a new override in the unity8-desktop-sesion | |
| [11:00] <larsu> darkxst: yes, this is why we want to add it... | |
| [11:01] <darkxst> larsu, add it to glib? | |
| [11:01] <larsu> darkxst: yes, where else? | |
| [11:03] <darkxst> bug 1222053 | |
| [11:03] <ubot5> bug 1222053 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu) "per-session gsettings overrides" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1222053 | |
| [11:05] <larsu> darkxst: not sure why you linked to the bug? | |
| [11:08] <darkxst> larsu, between comment #1 and #2 it may be possible to load overrides by setting GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIR | |
| [11:11] <Laney> Pretty sure they have worked out how to do it upstream already, the aforementioned yak | |
| [11:11] <Laney> darkxst: I've got someone emailing me asking to update to evo 3.12.8 in gnome3-staging, you going to do that? | |
| [11:13] <darkxst> Laney, for which series? | |
| [11:13] <Laney> trusty | |
| [11:14] <darkxst> probably not, we only plan to support gnome3 ppa for the LTS | |
| [11:14] <Laney> I guess ricotz (never here when you want him) | |
| [11:15] <larsu> darkxst: not sure what the plan is, but probably not based on GSETTINGS_SCHEMA_DIRS | |
| [11:15] <larsu> darkxst: (I'm more involved in the yak-shaving part than the gsettings part) | |
| [11:17] * Laney emailed ricotz instead | |
| [11:17] <darkxst> larsu, that is how shell extensions get their schemas | |
| [11:18] <larsu> ya, I know | |
| [11:20] <darkxst> and I haven't looked at this stuff in over a year, but seems it would probably be easy enough to do the same with overrides | |
| [11:33] <Laney> larsu: where are gnome module maintainers listed? | |
| [11:34] <larsu> Laney: good question... don't know | |
| [11:34] <Laney> hmm okay | |
| [11:34] <darkxst> Laney, in the doap file | |
| [12:17] <mitya57> Laney: would you mind if I upload my webkit ppc64el patch? I am not able to test it myself, and I don't have enough time if I also want that patch in Jessie. | |
| [12:18] <Laney> mitya57: Ah yeah, let's test that in the porter, shall we? | |
| [12:18] <Laney> Remind me of the bug #? | |
| [12:19] <mitya57> debian #762670 has all needed information | |
| [12:19] <ubot5> Debian bug 762670 in libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0 "libjavascriptcoregtk-3.0-0: crashes on ppc64el when building sphinx" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/762670 | |
| [12:19] <Laney> You should go bug #debian-admin about gettin an account :-) | |
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| [12:24] <mitya57> Asked them. | |
| [12:25] <Laney> build-deps installing | |
| [12:25] * mitya57 hugs Laney | |
| [12:37] <Laney> mitya57: the patch on the upstream report doesn't apply | |
| [12:37] <Laney> fedora one does though | |
| [12:37] * Laney tries that | |
| [12:38] <mitya57> Laney: oh yes, Fedora's one | |
| [12:40] * Laney screams every time a program isn't installed | |
| [12:41] <Laney> 'kay, building, will get back to you in an hour or so | |
| [12:41] <Laney> ppc64el is fast | |
| [12:46] * mitya57 refuses to believe that webkit can build in just an hour | |
| [12:49] <Laney> we'll see about that! | |
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| [13:31] <seb128> Laney, do you remember why you did bump the kernel version in your most recent commit on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/installation-guide/ubuntu ? | |
| [13:31] <seb128> you wrote "Bump names for Utopic, including GNOME but not kernel" | |
| [13:31] <seb128> so you deliberately left it out, was that because the version was not decided yet when you did that? | |
| [13:33] <Laney> seb128: no I don't remember but it's probably that | |
| [13:33] <seb128> Laney, ok, thanks | |
| [13:33] <Laney> I don't know why I touched that | |
| [13:33] <Laney> maybe while patch piloting | |
| [13:34] <seb128> that's what I'm doing :p | |
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| [14:12] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128! | |
| [14:12] <seb128> hey GunnarHj | |
| [14:12] <GunnarHj> seb128: I should have changed the status of that MP to "work in progress". Just did. | |
| [14:13] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks! | |
| [14:13] <GunnarHj> seb128: But let me take this opportunity to ask you: | |
| [14:14] <GunnarHj> seb128: There is a pending lightdm MP which proposes that /usr/sbin/lightdm-session is run under bash. That allows for a better solution. Would you have any objections to running Xsession under bash? | |
| [14:15] <seb128> GunnarHj, no objection, I don't think the performance difference is going to be noticable and it seems more robust/easier code to maintain | |
| [14:16] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, thanks, then I'll get back with a revised GDM MP as soon as pitti has reviewed the new lightdm MP. | |
| [14:16] <seb128> ok, great | |
| [14:16] <Sweet5hark> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.3.3/libreoffice-l10n_4.3.3-0ubuntu2_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/vivid/4.3.3/libreoffice_4.3.3-0ubuntu2_source.changes <- ubuntu revision bumped to ubuntu2 for vivid ... | |
| [14:17] <seb128> Sweet5hark, thanks | |
| [14:17] <seb128> Sweet5hark, hey btw, happy friday ;-) | |
| [14:17] <Sweet5hark> seb128: Its Friday? Lets get trolling! | |
| [14:18] <seb128> Sweet5hark, seems like you missed the morning trolls? still have the afternoon to make up for it ;-) | |
| [14:18] <Sweet5hark> seb128: now I know why you came back from vacation for this one day ;) | |
| [14:19] <seb128> hehe | |
| [14:44] <seb128> Sweet5hark, uploaded | |
| [14:44] <seb128> on that note, time for some exercice before it gets dark out there | |
| [14:50] * Laney shivers | |
| [14:50] <Laney> cold up here | |
| [14:56] * ogra_ wonders if Laney moved to the US | |
| [15:08] <Laney> mitya57: some link step is failing, blerg blergy blerg | |
| [15:09] <mitya57> Laney: what error message? it may be just OOM | |
| [15:09] <Laney> none, but no OOM in dmesg | |
| [15:09] <Laney> probably is something like that | |
| [15:10] * Laney adds some linker flags | |
| [15:16] <Laney> If this fails I'll nab a silo | |
| [15:23] * Laney uploads nautilus 3.14 to desktop ppa | |
| [15:29] <Laney> ah | |
| [15:29] <Laney> ENOSPC | |
| [15:34] <mitya57> If you upload it into a silo then I can add it to dependencies of my PPA and test Sphinx there. | |
| [15:34] * mitya57 bbl | |
| [15:34] <Laney> I'm abusing people to clean up their home directories first | |
| [15:35] <Laney> where "abuse" is "ask really nicely" | |
| [15:36] <ricotz> Laney, hi, what will be the e-d-s version for the utopic upload? i assume 3.12.8-0ubuntu0.1?? | |
| [15:36] <Laney> ricotz: probably | |
| [15:37] <Laney> if you use ubuntu0~stuff you'll be okay | |
| [15:37] <ricotz> ok, trying to preserve the upgrade path | |
| [15:37] <ricotz> 3.12.8-0ubuntu0.1~trusty1 | |
| [15:38] <Laney> thanks for working on it | |
| [15:38] <ricotz> 0ubuntu0~ is problematic for internal deps iirc | |
| [15:40] <Laney> mitya57: you probably don't have a PPA that builds for ppc64el so I don't think you can test it there | |
| [15:40] <Laney> I can copy packages though | |
| [15:51] <axp_> Hi to everyone... is here someone who maintains/develop Ubuntu Software Center ? | |
| [15:55] <Laney> mitya57: okay ppa:ci-train-ppa-service/landing-005 keep an eye on that | |
| [16:06] <didrocks> axp_: hey, mvo did in the past, however there is no such much maintenance nowdays as we'll transition with unity8 to the click store | |
| [16:14] <Sweet5hark> seb128_: thanks | |
| [16:15] <seb128_> Sweet5hark, yw! | |
| [16:15] <Sweet5hark> as for "exercise before it gets dark" -- its so foggy here, one would run into trees even here ... | |
| [16:15] <Sweet5hark> s/here/in bright daylight/ | |
| [16:17] <axp_> didrocks: mvo: I found a "unclear" screen about a package | |
| [16:22] <axp_> didrock: mvo: http://imgur.com/wWD5Akk | |
| [16:26] <seb128> hum | |
| [16:26] <seb128> mvo, having any issue with the software-properties changes/upload? | |
| [16:26] <Sweet5hark> willcooke: any update/feedback on bug 1389858 btw? | |
| [16:27] <ubot5> bug 1389858 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Libreoffice calc 4.2.7-0ubuntu1 not updating references after sort" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1389858 | |
| [16:32] <Laney> ricotz: do you have a vcs for gnome3-staging updates? | |
| [16:32] <Laney> want to merge nautilus into ubuntu-desktop | |
| [16:34] <seb128> Laney, saw bug #1393252 ? | |
| [16:34] <ubot5> bug 1393252 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus 3.14 update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1393252 | |
| [16:35] <Laney> seb128: nope! | |
| [16:35] <Laney> good stuff | |
| [16:35] <seb128> now you did then ;-) | |
| [16:35] <Laney> looks to be the same | |
| [16:39] <mvo> seb128: no, just busy, if it looks good to you, just upload | |
| [16:40] <seb128> mvo, I didn't look at it since you said you would ;-) | |
| [16:40] <seb128> no worry, there is no hurry | |
| [16:40] <seb128> I just don't want it to fall through the cracks | |
| [16:40] <seb128> I know how it is, friday, then on monday new week start with backlog and crazyness and nobody is going to have slot for that one anymore ;-) | |
| [16:44] <Laney> hmm, it has dialogs with headerbar | |
| [16:49] <seb128> :-/ | |
| [16:50] <mvo> seb128: I merged it all, wrote a test | |
| [16:50] <seb128> mvo, thanks! | |
| [16:51] <mvo> seb128: I just upload a build that I need to wait on anyway | |
| [16:51] <mvo> seb128: so let me finish it, sorry again | |
| [16:51] <Laney> sword fight time? | |
| [16:53] <mvo> Laney: sword?!? | |
| [16:53] <seb128> mvo, no worry, thanks ;-) | |
| [16:53] <mvo> uploaded | |
| [16:53] <mvo> Laney: is rock climbing not dangerous enough anymore? | |
| [16:53] <Laney> mvo: https://xkcd.com/303/ | |
| [16:54] <Laney> however, I'm now imagining a film scene | |
| [16:54] <Laney> sword fight while climbing some awesome route | |
| [16:54] <Laney> to rescue the president dangling from the top | |
| [16:55] <mvo> Laney: hahaha | |
| [16:56] <dednick> charles: hey. something seems to be off with the indicator-datetime translations | |
| [16:57] <dednick> charles: po files are all for old c code. | |
| [16:58] <seb128> dednick, what serie? example? | |
| [17:00] <dednick> seb128: lp:indicator-datetime. "./src/formatter-dekstop.cpp" has translatable strings but no translation entries exist in po files. | |
| [17:03] <seb128> dednick, I don't see that | |
| [17:03] <seb128> dednick, e.g https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/utopic/+source/indicator-datetime/+pots/indicator-datetime/fr/10/+translate | |
| [17:07] <dednick> hm. thats weird. why aren't they in the .po files? | |
| [17:07] <dednick> in the source tree | |
| [17:10] <achiang> willcooke: feeling better today? :) | |
| [17:10] <willcooke> achiang, :) not really | |
| [17:10] <willcooke> should be sleeping, but ya know how it is | |
| [17:11] <willcooke> I'd end up on my laptop in bed anyway | |
| [17:11] <willcooke> so this is probably better | |
| [17:11] <achiang> heh | |
| [17:11] <willcooke> so how's things going out there in the real world ;) | |
| [17:12] <achiang> so i have this unity7 multi-monitor bug that seems trivially reproducible | |
| [17:12] <willcooke> yeah, I read some of the backlog from yesterday | |
| [17:12] <willcooke> its on bregma radar now I think? | |
| [17:13] <achiang> 14.04.1, turn on workspaces, use VGA for external display; then: open gnome-terminal on workspace in upper right on laptop screen. suspend machine. resume machine. gnome-terminal appears on external display | |
| [17:13] <achiang> out here in the real world, it's fun to use ubuntu to actually build other things :) | |
| [17:14] <achiang> except when i'm plagued by this paper cut on a daily basis ;) | |
| [17:14] <willcooke> :) | |
| [17:14] <willcooke> I hear ya | |
| [17:14] <achiang> not sure if it's on bregma's radar; to be fair, i haven't filed a bug report | |
| [17:15] <achiang> but it seems strange that i'm the only one with this issue | |
| [17:15] <willcooke> yeah, I would have expected quite a lot of people to do that kind of thing | |
| [17:15] <willcooke> (plug/unplug monitors etc) | |
| [17:15] <achiang> in my particular case i'm not even unplugging anything | |
| [17:15] <Laney> larsu: construct-only properties and GtkBuilder, how do? you know? | |
| [17:16] <achiang> the vga cable stays plugged in during the suspend/resume | |
| [17:16] <willcooke> oh, yeah, sorry | |
| [17:16] <bregma> it's the same as plug/unplug because it takes so long in dog years for the monitor to be recognized | |
| [17:16] <seb128> dednick, the po in the source are not used/updated | |
| [17:17] <seb128> dednick, we export translations directly from launchpad to langpacks | |
| [17:17] <dednick> seb128: should probably be deleted in that case. it's confusing. | |
| [17:17] <seb128> dednick, we should maybe delete the old .po in the source to avoid confusio | |
| [17:17] <achiang> bregma: but if that's the case, why would windows appear on the slow-recognized display? | |
| [17:17] <achiang> you'd think they'd appear on the fast-recognized one | |
| [17:17] <seb128> dednick, yeah, talk to ted & charles about that I guess | |
| [17:17] <achiang> because that's the one that exists upon resume | |
| [17:17] <dednick> tedg: , charles: ^ :) | |
| [17:18] <bregma> achiang, I'm not saying it's not a bug, but it's related to physical monitor changes | |
| [17:19] <achiang> bregma: hm... is there a way to dump out names of open windows and their coordinates into a text file? | |
| [17:19] <achiang> bregma: that seems like a fair place to start filing a bug report | |
| [17:19] <tedg> Yeah, I think they should go. | |
| [17:19] <bregma> Trevinho, ^^ | |
| [17:20] <tedg> I think it'd make indicator-datetime build like 10ns faster as well! ;-) | |
| [17:20] <Trevinho> achiang: well, you can use a script using wnckprop | |
| [17:21] <Trevinho> achiang: or... you install libxpathselect and use the autopitlo interface to get them | |
| [17:21] <Trevinho> (dbus interface) | |
| [17:21] <achiang> groan | |
| [17:24] <achiang> ok, here is an existing bug report that describes another issue i have: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/382056 | |
| [17:24] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 382056 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Windows moved to wrong workspace after suspend/resume" [Low,New] | |
| [17:32] <seb128> hum, my latency to ubuntu.com sites is not good for some days | |
| [17:32] <seb128> is anybody else having similar issues? | |
| [17:35] <willcooke> seb128, had problems getting to answers. earlier | |
| [17:35] <willcooke> sorry, ask. | |
| [17:41] <seb128> Sweet5hark, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1342175 fixed with 3.3? | |
| [17:41] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1342175 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "[upstream] Poor performance with find & replace with empty value on large data set" [Medium,In progress] | |
| [17:41] <seb128> Sweet5hark, sorry, 4.3.3 I meant | |
| [17:53] <charles> dednick, +1 on what seb128 says, iiuc the .po files in the repo are leftovers from the tarball days | |
| [17:53] <charles> probably does make sense to remove those old .po files to avoid confusion | |
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| [18:05] <Laney> right, happy weekend! | |
| [18:08] <Laney> mitya57: it built there, give me a package to upload and I'll do it some time this weekend | |
| [18:08] <Laney> byeeeeeeeee | |
| [18:17] <dobey> anyone have any idea why nautilus would not be drawing the background and won't open new windows? | |
| [18:19] <didrocks> and with this success (just a minor TODO for Monday \o/) /me waves good week-end | |
| [18:21] <dobey> guess i'll try to reboot and see if it fixes it | |
| [20:23] <ChrisTownsend> achiang: You still around? I'd like to discuss you "moving windows" issue. | |
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