| [08:39] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [09:02] <dholbach> hey dpm | |
| [09:03] <dholbach> it's the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day | |
| [09:03] * dholbach goes and writes a blog entry | |
| [09:05] <dpm> morning dholbach | |
| [09:11] * czajkowski appreciates you all | |
| [11:00] <dholbach> dpm, popey: I'm going to be offline for half an hour - I need to replace my laptop display - let's all cross fingers and hope that it's fine and back to normal afterwards again | |
| [11:00] <popey> good luck! | |
| [11:00] <dholbach> thanks :) | |
| [11:00] <dpm> dholbach, good luck! | |
| [11:00] <popey> cut the red wire | |
| [11:00] <dholbach> haha | |
| [11:01] <dholbach> it wasn't the display cable - I replaced that a week or two ago already | |
| [11:01] <dholbach> then I ordered a new display which they sent to the wrong address, or the postman got confused | |
| [11:01] <dholbach> now I hope that after 3-4 weeks of display weirdness I have a working laptop again :) | |
| [11:24] <dholbach> success | |
| [11:25] <popey> \o/ | |
| [11:25] * popey adds "Hardware Engineer" to dholbach's skills matrix | |
| [11:27] <dholbach> yeehaw :) | |
| [11:27] <czajkowski> lol | |
| [12:17] * dholbach relocates, brb | |
| [12:36] <popey> dholbach: https://plus.google.com/u/0/100659093975814540586/posts/b6aP9nUTRmT | |
| [12:36] <popey> can you get rid of that? | |
| [12:36] <popey> I am not a moderator of that team for some reason. | |
| [12:37] <dholbach> I'm not quite sure how to do that | |
| [12:38] <dholbach> all right, removed | |
| [12:39] <dholbach> G+ admin interfaces are quite hard to use | |
| [12:39] <popey> there's a moderator page | |
| [12:39] <dholbach> yeah, I'm trying to see if I can add you | |
| [12:39] <popey> in there you can go through approving/rejecting | |
| [12:39] <popey> i dont think you can, maybe only jono can | |
| [12:40] <dholbach> popey, ok found it | |
| [12:40] <dholbach> popey, you should be a moderator now | |
| [12:41] <popey> MUHAHAHAAHAHAAH! | |
| [12:41] <popey> I mean, thanks. | |
| [12:41] <dholbach> enjoy | |
| === ara is now known as Guest1529 | |
| [12:55] <mhall119> remember popey, with great power comes a great number of work items that nobody else wants to do | |
| [19:51] <jcastro> mhall119, what are my options if my ubuntu touch device stopped showing up in `adb devices`? | |
| [19:59] <jcastro> all the release notes seem to be for 13.10? | |
| [20:04] <popey> jcastro: unplug, re-plug | |
| [20:04] <popey> jcastro: system settings -> about phone, make sure developer mode is on | |
| [20:07] <mhall119> jcastro: you need developer mode on (as popey said) and the device unlocked | |
| [20:07] <jcastro> yep, checked all that | |
| [20:07] <mhall119> did you unplug-replug? | |
| [20:07] <popey> is the phone actually unlocked? | |
| [20:07] <jcastro> yes, and reboot | |
| [20:08] <jcastro> yes, it's running ubuntu touch | |
| [20:08] <popey> i.e. not at the pin lock screen? | |
| [20:08] <popey> no, not that kind of unlocked | |
| [20:08] <popey> get it to the dash | |
| [20:08] <jcastro> oh, so unlock it then plug it back in? | |
| [20:08] <popey> or leave plugged in | |
| [20:08] <mhall119> or plug it in and then unlock it | |
| [20:08] <popey> but unlock it, yes | |
| [20:08] <popey> security yo | |
| [20:08] <mhall119> basically, adb only works when we are confident that the owner is in posession of the device, so it needs to have a PIN (or passphrase) and they had to enter that to unlock it | |
| [20:09] <jcastro> nope | |
| [20:09] <jcastro> still blank | |
| [20:09] <mhall119> have you tried a hammer? | |
| [20:09] <popey> what version you running? | |
| [20:09] <jcastro> 14.10 r243 | |
| [20:09] <mhall119> jcastro: does it open a Nautilus window and show you the MTP folders? (Documents, Music, etc) | |
| [20:09] <jcastro> no, it doesn't | |
| [20:09] <jcastro> nothing in dmesg either | |
| [20:09] <popey> flip developer mode off then on again | |
| [20:10] <mhall119> then it's not making a connection | |
| [20:10] <popey> broken cable? | |
| [20:10] <mhall119> try a different USB cable | |
| [20:10] <popey> r243!? | |
| [20:10] <jcastro> cable and port work fine, already tried that | |
| [20:10] <popey> how did you manage that? | |
| [20:10] * popey is on 14.10 r137 | |
| [20:10] <mhall119> popey: I know, that's from like 2014-10 | |
| [20:10] <popey> which channel? | |
| [20:10] <jcastro> I was running it all cycle | |
| [20:10] <jcastro> and then one day it stopped updating | |
| [20:11] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, probably old devel channel, you should switch to RTM | |
| [20:11] <popey> bet you're on trusty | |
| [20:11] <jcastro> oh, it still shows up as utopic dev | |
| [20:11] <jcastro> mhall119, how do I do that? | |
| [20:11] <jcastro> I just want to run whatever the best one is | |
| [20:11] <mhall119> ubuntu-device-flash -something something | |
| [20:11] <mhall119> popey knows | |
| [20:11] <popey> ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel-proposed | |
| [20:11] <jcastro> from the device itself? | |
| [20:11] <popey> no | |
| [20:11] <popey> via usb | |
| [20:11] <mhall119> no no, don't put him on proposed | |
| [20:11] <popey> 20:11:27 < jcastro> I just want to run whatever the best one is | |
| [20:12] <popey> proposed == best | |
| [20:12] <popey> :þ | |
| [20:12] <mhall119> no it's not | |
| [20:12] <popey> lies | |
| [20:12] <mhall119> proposed == newest | |
| [20:12] <jcastro> well, if it can't find it on usb | |
| [20:12] <popey> newest == best | |
| [20:12] <jcastro> then I can't flash it | |
| [20:12] <jcastro> anyway to do it from the device itself? | |
| [20:12] <mhall119> yeah, you need to sort your USB connection first | |
| [20:12] <popey> yeah, you can do it from the device | |
| [20:12] <popey> in the terminal | |
| [20:12] <popey> but I'd flip dev mode off/on first | |
| [20:12] <mhall119> what a concept, eg? | |
| [20:13] <popey> might be broken adb on your pc | |
| [20:13] <jcastro> flipping does nothing | |
| [20:13] <popey> kill adbd | |
| [20:13] <popey> on pc | |
| [20:13] <popey> then unplug/replug, run adb devices | |
| [20:13] <mhall119> if it's not making an MTP connection, it's probably a physical problem, not adb | |
| [20:13] <popey> also, usb cable | |
| [20:13] <jcastro> if it's physical it's the phone, I've tested everything else | |
| [20:13] <popey> it's not a "charging only" cable is it? | |
| [20:13] <jcastro> no | |
| [20:14] <mhall119> jcastro: have you tried juju deploy fix-my-phone? | |
| [20:14] <popey> I have one of them, burned it | |
| [20:14] <popey> so yeah, kill adbd first | |
| [20:14] <popey> killall adb | |
| [20:14] <popey> adb devices | |
| [20:14] <jcastro> did that already, still blank | |
| [20:14] <jcastro> is it easy to upgrade from the device? | |
| [20:15] <popey> yeah, if you can type well | |
| [20:15] <popey> system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 | |
| [20:15] <popey> do that in terminal | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> !!! | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> dude, I had a zombie adb process | |
| [20:16] <popey> there we go | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> so I had to -9 | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> not just normal kill | |
| [20:16] <popey> happens | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> ok | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> now to rewipe it with the latest bling? | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> I have to show it off at a talk tonight | |
| [20:16] <popey> you dont have to wipe | |
| [20:16] <jcastro> so nothing too crazy | |
| [20:17] <popey> adb shell | |
| [20:17] <popey> system-image-cli -c ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 -b 0 | |
| [20:17] <popey> leave it alone... | |
| [20:17] <jcastro> ack | |
| [20:17] <popey> oh, might need sudo ☻ | |
| [20:18] <popey> you get more feedback if you use ubuntu-device-flash on your laptop though | |
| [20:18] <popey> ubuntu-device-flash --channel=ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/14.09 | |
| [20:18] <jcastro> well too late, heh | |
| [20:19] <popey> nvm | |
| [20:19] <jcastro> how long should I give it, 15min or so? | |
| [20:19] <popey> it'll take a while | |
| [20:19] <popey> adb shell in and you'll see ubuntu-download process | |
| [20:19] <popey> meaning "yay" | |
| [20:22] <jcastro> popey, is it a good idea to cancel it and do it from the laptop? | |
| [20:22] <jcastro> it's atomic right? :) | |
| [20:23] <popey> ya | |
| [20:23] <popey> its fine | |
| [20:23] <popey> you can always restart it if it hasn't rebooted into the update | |
| [20:25] <jcastro> so was I on some old crufty devel release from like months ago? | |
| [20:32] <jcastro> popey, do I answer yes or no for disabling recovery flash? | |
| [20:38] <jcastro> popey, mhall119: holy crap, this is waaaaay better than what I was running before! | |
| [20:38] <popey> hah | |
| [20:38] <czajkowski> gah stupid web client messed up my reply | |
| [20:41] <mhall119> jcastro: welcome to the future :) | |
| [20:42] <jcastro> yeah then I ran into popey's RMS app | |
| [20:42] <popey> :D | |
| [20:48] <mhall119> what happened to the jono one? we need that back | |
| [20:48] <jcastro> popey, your youtube app is <3 | |
| [20:49] <popey> heh | |
| [20:49] <popey> put some music on your device | |
| [20:49] <popey> if you haven't already | |
| [20:49] <popey> make sure you have artwork too. | |
| [20:50] <jcastro> no one's done spotify yet? | |
| [20:50] <popey> yes, someone has | |
| [20:50] <popey> but there's a platform issue with playing audio in the background | |
| [20:50] <jcastro> oh | |
| [20:51] <popey> the problem is because spotify has a binary blob for doing the streaming | |
| [20:51] <jcastro> nod | |
| [20:51] <ahayzen> popey, are they waiting for background playlists as well? or does the music get cut as soon as it minimises ? | |
| [20:51] <popey> also, put a couple of trailers on your phone | |
| [20:51] <jcastro> does the normal music app have that problem? | |
| [20:51] <popey> ahayzen: no, its because of the blob | |
| [20:51] <popey> no, jcastro | |
| [20:51] <ahayzen> popey, ah | |
| [20:52] <popey> jcastro: ahayzen is one of the music app devs :D | |
| [20:52] <ahayzen> o/ | |
| [20:52] <popey> Community \m/ | |
| [20:52] <jcastro> rawk! | |
| [20:52] <jcastro> ok I just need to find local music | |
| [20:52] <jcastro> I'll dig into one of my backups | |
| [20:52] <jcastro> I don't think I've kept local music around for years, heh | |
| [20:52] <popey> yeah, a backup, right ☻ | |
| [20:52] <popey> internet backups | |
| [20:52] <jcastro> no seriously, I no longer do local music | |
| [20:53] <popey> me too | |
| [20:53] <popey> I'm all over spotify | |
| [20:53] <jcastro> oh cool, I can just drag and drop into this folder here | |
| [20:53] <jcastro> bling bling | |
| [20:53] <popey> interestingly two of the spotify developers hang out in the ubuntu touch channel ㋛ | |
| [20:58] <jcastro> man, music works awesome | |
| [20:58] <jcastro> just copied stuff over, done | |
| [20:58] <jcastro> hey so, if I put pink floyd in music, shouldn't searching for "floyd" in the main scope show results? | |
| [20:59] <jcastro> oh I see, drag over one for the music scope | |
| [21:01] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, there is no "Home" scope in Unity 8 anymore | |
| [21:01] <jcastro> ok, booted with my sim in it | |
| [21:02] <jcastro> I am committed now! | |
| [21:02] <mhall119> jcastro: want to see something slick though? | |
| [21:03] <jcastro> show me </morpheus> | |
| [21:03] <jcastro> man, the notifications are so slick now | |
| [21:03] <mhall119> jcastro: from anywhere in the dash, swipe up from the bottom edge to enter the dash manager | |
| [21:03] <mhall119> then use the search icon in the top-right corner and search for "Pink Floyd" | |
| [21:04] <belkinsa> OMG. Thank you, mhall119! | |
| [21:04] <mhall119> belkinsa: not at all, it's well deserved | |
| [21:05] <jcastro> ooh | |
| [21:05] <belkinsa> You made my day. | |
| [21:05] <mhall119> :) | |
| [21:05] <jcastro> ok so is there no contacts scope? | |
| [21:05] <jcastro> let's say I want to call jill | |
| [21:06] <mhall119> belkinsa: I do want to get involved with Ubuntu Leadership team, but I've got to finish porting developer.ubuntu.com to Django :( | |
| [21:06] <jcastro> this looks it up on like wikipedia, etc. | |
| [21:06] <jcastro> not my phone | |
| [21:06] <mhall119> jcastro: yeah, no contacts/people scope | |
| [21:06] <mhall119> that was dropped a *long* time ago | |
| [21:06] <jcastro> ok so how do you call/text someone? | |
| [21:06] <belkinsa> mhall119, I think it will take time for the Leadership Team to get off the ground. But I think with the help of the CC and the mentoring program, it may be seeon. | |
| [21:06] <belkinsa> soon* | |
| [21:06] <jcastro> drill down in the messaging or phone app? | |
| [21:06] <mhall119> jcastro: use the dialer or messaging app | |
| [21:07] <mhall119> jcastro: or look the person up in the address book app, and then choose to call or text them | |
| [21:08] <mhall119> I wonder if we'll see the people scope agian, now that the API is improved and C++ scopes are fast | |
| [21:10] <jcastro> yeah I tend to use the person as the top org unit | |
| [21:10] <jcastro> and then choose msg or call | |
| [21:10] <mhall119> jcastro: use the addressbook app then | |
| [21:11] <jcastro> the google sync thing is pretty sweet | |
| [21:15] <mhall119> yeah, that was a huge pain to get working, but now that it does it's awesome | |
| [21:15] <mhall119> alarms too | |
| [22:30] <jcastro> mhall119, one more thing | |
| [22:30] <jcastro> the home circle activity thing still says no sources | |
| [22:30] <jcastro> do I need to set it up? | |
| [22:41] <mhall119> the what now? | |
| [23:09] <ahayzen> mhall119, the infographic on the 'welcome screen' | |
| [23:47] <popey> that may be a bug | |
| [23:47] <popey> i filed one for it | |
| [23:47] <popey> jcastro: no, you don't it should have music, texts, calls, etc, if no, it's a bug | |
| [23:48] <popey> bug 1359022 | |
| [23:48] <ubot2> bug 1359022 in libusermetrics (Ubuntu) "Welcome screen on image #200 always states that there are no data sources available" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359022 | |