| [02:00] <mhall119> sgclark: can you register for https://launchpad.net/sprints/uos-1411 ? I can't add you to summit.ubuntu.com as a track lead until you do | |
| [02:00] <sgclark> mhall119: done | |
| [02:08] <mhall119> thanks sgclark | |
| [03:04] <_Groo_> apachelogger: now now, just because it has mplayer in the name doesnt mean its a POS... its actual quite stable, but yeah, as a base for phonon , it might give you slight migraines. although as an added fun it also has ffmpeg code in it... oh the joy! it makes my debugging skill all smoochy inside | |
| [04:52] <bukai> Riddell: I have come up with some ideas for the website, i.e. creating a theme instead of using a default one from wp. Shall I go ahead with the idea i have in mind for the theme? | |
| [07:10] <lordievader> Good morning. | |
| [07:50] <soee> good morning | |
| [09:05] <_Groo_> howdy soee | |
| [09:37] <soee> _Groo_: hiho | |
| [09:37] <_Groo_> :) | |
| [09:38] <apachelogger> Riddell: reckon someone needs to file for KF5 SRU exception starting with 15.04 | |
| [09:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: !!! long time no see | |
| [09:41] <_Groo_> apachelogger: my favorite phonon developer | |
| [09:52] <Riddell> apachelogger: meh | |
| [09:52] <Riddell> I'm taking a day off walking in the hills | |
| [09:53] <apachelogger> _Groo_: hello there, welcome back | |
| [09:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: have fun | |
| [09:53] <apachelogger> wait, walking in the hills Oo | |
| [09:54] <_Groo_> apachelogger: tks tks, so are you considering using cmplayer as a phonon NSA backdoor, i mean phonon backend? | |
| [09:54] <_Groo_> apachelogger: yeah he took a shovel | |
| [09:54] <apachelogger> no | |
| [09:54] <apachelogger> mplayer has no api | |
| [09:55] <apachelogger> or does it not actually use mplayer? | |
| [09:55] <_Groo_> apachelogger: it uses ffmpeg | |
| [09:55] <apachelogger> at any rate, anything that is directly tied to ffmpeg is unadoptable by half the world and has the added pointlessness of 'we could just use ffmpeg' | |
| [09:55] <_Groo_> apachelogger: and mpv | |
| [09:55] <apachelogger> martin sandsmark even has an ffmpeg phonon backend | |
| [09:56] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i remember a mplayer backend back in the day | |
| [09:56] <_Groo_> used to work | |
| [09:56] <apachelogger> it really didn't | |
| [09:56] <apachelogger> since mplayer has no api | |
| [09:56] <_Groo_> it as just a big blob, it called the player directly | |
| [09:56] <apachelogger> everything built ontop of mplayer is usually derpy crap | |
| [09:56] <_Groo_> it was* | |
| [09:57] <_Groo_> apachelogger: well we have 3 bazillion players but besides gstreamer we dont have any good multimedia frameworks | |
| [09:57] <_Groo_> either we use libav/ffmpeg or... vlc? | |
| [09:57] <_Groo_> and even those , cross polinate | |
| [09:57] <apachelogger> there really only should be one framework TBH | |
| [09:58] <_Groo_> two... for competition sake | |
| [09:59] <_Groo_> if you want to *uck things up, lets make just ONE framework, developed by committee and with apple AND google has leaders | |
| [09:59] <apachelogger> platformwise the fragementation is very counterproudctive and is the reason multimedia on linux sucks balls | |
| [09:59] <_Groo_> that should be fun and fast | |
| [09:59] <_Groo_> fragmentation IS linux | |
| [10:00] <apachelogger> no it's not | |
| [10:00] <_Groo_> is xine still developed? | |
| [10:00] <_Groo_> not in life support, but actively developed? | |
| [10:03] <apachelogger> nope | |
| [10:10] <_Groo_> apachelogger: so theres not much choice is it? | |
| [10:14] <apachelogger> _Groo_: there's two | |
| [10:14] <apachelogger> which is one too many considering both leave you wanting | |
| [10:16] <_Groo_> vlc and gstreamer | |
| [11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks | |
| [11:31] <sgclark> morning | |
| === kbroulik is now known as kbroulik-lunch | |
| === kbroulik-lunch is now known as kbroulik | |
| [14:39] <santa_> hi | |
| [14:42] <manchicken> Hi. | |
| [17:16] <Riddell> 12:07 < didrocks> Riddell: hey, do you think there would be anything kde-side blocking a bluez5 transition? | |
| [17:16] <Riddell> hmm I always forget that | |
| [17:25] <_Groo_> oh bluez5, yes please | |
| [17:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: do you think my cmplayer proposal was well accepted? :P | |
| [17:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: i wonder what the reaction would be if it was a complex or dangerous package. so much | |
| [17:26] <_Groo_> drama | |
| [17:32] <Riddell> _Groo_: sorry I've been away today and not read the replies | |
| [17:33] <_Groo_> Riddell: its a good read | |
| [17:33] <_Groo_> Riddell: how was the hicking? | |
| [17:36] <sgclark> Riddell: hope you had a good day, stopping in, or do you have a moment for a question? | |
| [17:57] <lordievader> Is the Plasma5 image boken? Used Unetbootin to make a live-usb. And sddm is saying it can't open /lib/init/init-d-script | |
| [17:57] <lordievader> And he is right, there is no such file. | |
| [18:01] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: bukai asked me for the WP site code | |
| [18:01] <ovidiu-florin> I'm not sure I understand what exactly to give him | |
| [18:01] <lordievader> Ah restarting sddm fixed it. | |
| [18:02] <Riddell> sgclark: ask away | |
| [18:02] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I gave him an account on the server so he should have everything | |
| [18:03] <Riddell> _Groo_: ach didn't get that far, ended up with doors locked with me on one side and neighbours on the other | |
| [18:07] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: then why did he ask me for the code? which by the way he shouldn't need | |
| [18:07] <ovidiu-florin> WP is open source, if he really needs the core code | |
| [18:07] <ovidiu-florin> but for developing a theme I don't think it is necessary | |
| [18:07] <Riddell> no it's not | |
| [18:07] <ovidiu-florin> don't get me wrong | |
| [18:07] <ovidiu-florin> he can have it | |
| [18:07] <sgclark> Riddell: I found our config path issue which will fix several items, plasam5 moved to XDG_CONFIG_DIR which is set in 00upstart and then overwritten in 60x11-common_xdg_path and I can only get *rc files to be aknowleged in the paths there. /usr/share/kubuntu-settings setup no longer works. Soooo my question is how to best override so we can seperate kubuntu specific configs | |
| [18:08] <ovidiu-florin> but it isn't necessary | |
| [18:09] <sgclark> Riddell: right now I can only get config files to work in /etc/xdg and /etc/xdg/xdg-plasma | |
| [18:09] <sgclark> Riddell: as set by 60x11-common-xdg-path Xsession.d script | |
| [18:10] <sgclark> Riddell: (also it breaks the upstart script FYI) | |
| [18:20] <lordievader> Hmm the plasma5 installer crashed on removing intamfstools. | |
| [18:52] <lordievader> Can the Kubuntu Next ppa be used on Vivid? | |
| [18:53] <sgclark> No - work in progress of moving to normal ppa/archive | |
| [18:54] <lordievader> Ok, then I won't add it (yet). | |
| [18:54] <lordievader> Thanks. | |
| [19:08] <sgclark> Riddell: I am putting all of my notes and discoveries on the trello card, just take a look when you have time. Thanks | |
| [19:19] <Riddell> thanks sgclark | |
| [19:20] <soee> hey hey | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> sgclark: I guess somehow we want to override a setting or environement variable to add to the xdg directories | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS | |
| [19:20] <sgclark> Riddell: right, my question is where | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> that needs set somewhere | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> previously we did it as a patch to startkde | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> I don't have a problem with doing the same again | |
| [19:20] <sgclark> Riddell: oh gmm | |
| [19:21] <sgclark> err | |
| [19:21] <Riddell> actually we added it to /etc/kde4rc | |
| [19:21] <sgclark> Riddell: this is for plasma 5 tho | |
| [19:21] <sgclark> Riddell: which I am not convinced reads that and I tried kderc | |
| [19:21] <Riddell> no it won't but I wonder if there's something equivalent | |
| [19:22] <Riddell> http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html might say | |
| [19:22] <sgclark> Riddell: yeah I have been on the hunt for many hours. Google is failing me. | |
| [19:22] <Riddell> where is /etc/xdg/xdg-plasma being set? that must be set by something | |
| [19:22] <sgclark> Riddell: I will keep looking | |
| [19:23] <sgclark> Riddell: 60x11-common_xdg_path would get overwritten on upgrades. | |
| [19:23] <Riddell> oh I see | |
| [19:23] <Riddell> well slap a 70xdg-kubuntu-dir in there | |
| [19:24] <sgclark> Riddell: I don't know if it is important, but I noticed 00upstart also exports this path but it gets reset by 60x11-common_xdg_path | |
| [19:24] <Riddell> which just does export XDG_DATA_DIRS=XDG_DATA_DIRS:/usr/share/kubuntu-settings/kf5-settings | |
| [19:24] <sgclark> Riddell: that was my train of thought was going | |
| [19:24] <sgclark> Riddell: right, I got it sorted :) thanks !!!! | |
| [19:25] <Riddell> yay, good stuff sgclark | |
| [19:25] <sgclark> Riddell: and I learned kubuntu-settings in this task lol woot | |
| [20:03] <ScottK> apachelogger: kf5 doesn't meet the criteria for a standing exception. | |
| [20:12] <sgclark> yay it works! where should I put my shiny new kubuntu-settings Riddell | |
| [20:20] <soee> someone on Plasma5 ? | |
| [20:21] <sgclark> yeah | |
| [20:22] <soee> sgclark: does partition manager work for you ? | |
| [20:24] <sgclark> soee: it starts and lists my drives etc. I don't have any spare drives to try and format sorry | |
| [20:27] <soee> sgclark: thats not the case | |
| [20:27] <soee> for me it says: Cannot load library /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_: (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkdeinit5_.so: .. | |
| [20:28] <soee> s i have this error only and app does nto start | |
| [20:28] <sgclark> soee: that seems to be a common problem. did you just install it? | |
| [20:29] <sgclark> soee: try running in a terminal /usr/bin/partitionmanager | |
| [20:29] <soee> hm it says that file /home/soee/.kde/share/config/partitionmanagerrc is not ready to write | |
| [20:30] <soee> strange | |
| [20:31] <soee> yeah this singl efile in this location has: -rw------- 1 root root 868 Jul 20 12:41 partitionmanagerrc | |
| [20:31] <soee> is it possible that partision manager create dit with root permissions only ? | |
| [20:32] <sgclark> gosh I don't rightly know | |
| [20:32] <sgclark> mine does not behave that way | |
| [20:32] <soee> ok i hcanged rights, now i can run it from terminal | |
| [20:58] <sgclark> Riddell: pushed to bzr. Review and put where you need it. Thanks | |