| [00:02] <harlowja> hmmm, seems not, lol | |
| [00:10] <harlowja> it needs to be able to run setup.py install in a virtualenv (which for us is currently non-standard, using datafiles which it can't write...) | |
| [00:10] <harlowja> fixing that | |
| [00:15] <harlowja> https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/setup-virtualenv-installable/+merge/240069 should do the trick (this allows readthedocs to make a virtualenv which won't be missing the requirements it needs to build the full docs) | |
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| [04:21] <dmick> hi all; this may be a dumbfaq, but I'm having real trouble finding it: is there a way to, preferably with a kernel boot arg, stop cloud-init from running on boot so that I can observe state before it runs, and run its phases by hand? | |
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| [15:02] <gchristensen> Hi, I'm looking to have an upstart job run after cloud init has finished. it seems there have been numerous events to "start on stopped ____" over time. I'm running Ubuntu 14.04, anyone know what event I should be watching for? | |
| [15:15] <Wumpus42> I'm using cloud-init 0.7.4 in a centos 6.5 image I made for a Icehouse cloud we've setup to mess around with. I can get cloud-init to execute shell scripts in the user_data, but I can't get the #cloud-config to work. I don't get any errors, the actions just dont happen. Is there something I have to turn on in the image cloud-init config to have it act on the cloud-config userdata items? | |
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| [17:21] <harlowja> Wumpus42 do u have an example yaml u are sending, or any cloud-init logs? | |
| [17:22] <harlowja> dmick there isn't a kernel arg afaik that stops cloud-init from doing things | |
| [17:22] <harlowja> smoser when u leaving for paris? | |
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| [17:29] <smoser> harlowja, saturday night. | |
| [17:29] <harlowja> cool | |
| [17:29] <harlowja> sat morning for me | |
| [17:29] <smoser> arrive sunday. | |
| [17:29] <smoser> are you speaking ? | |
| [17:29] <smoser> sunday i'm paying wrokingon talk | |
| [17:29] <smoser> as i am right now too | |
| [17:29] <smoser> no reason in being ready early | |
| [17:29] <harlowja> speaking, no direct speaking, a few summit sessions; but those aren't really speaking :-P | |
| [17:30] <harlowja> no like presenations i mean | |
| [17:30] <harlowja> u? | |
| [17:30] <Wumpus42> yes. i will get an example | |
| [17:30] <harlowja> Wumpus42 cool | |
| [17:30] <harlowja> that will help diagnois whats happening | |
| [17:30] <harlowja> smoser are u gonna talk about cloud-init or something, lol | |
| [17:31] <smoser> containers | |
| [17:31] <smoser> http://www.openstack.org/vote-paris/Presentation/ecure-containers-in-openstack-using-lxc-and-user-namespaces | |
| [17:31] <harlowja> ah | |
| [17:31] <harlowja> cool | |
| [17:32] <harlowja> i'll try to be there! | |
| [17:40] <hiren_> smoser: looks like an interesting talk. Would these be recorded? | |
| [17:40] <harlowja> hiren_ they typically are | |
| [17:41] <harlowja> the design summit sessions (which are developers blabbering at each other aren't recorded) | |
| [17:41] <harlowja> ^ thankfully those aren't recorded, haha | |
| [17:42] <hiren_> hah yeah | |
| [17:42] <hiren_> you do not want the world to see your yelling... I get that part. | |
| [17:42] <harlowja> ;) | |
| [17:43] <hiren_> and dev only sessions are hardly civilized anyways. ;-) | |
| [17:47] <smoser> hiren_, yeah, it will be | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> Here's my simple #cloud-config | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> #cloud-config | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> package_upgrade: true | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> power_state: | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> delay: "now" | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> mode: reboot | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> message: "Bye Bye" | |
| [17:50] <Wumpus42_> timeout: 30 | |
| [17:51] <Wumpus42_> I'm new to irc, is there a better way to paste that? | |
| [17:53] <hiren_> smoser: cool. | |
| [17:53] <harlowja> Wumpus42_ using paste.ubuntu.com would be cool | |
| [17:53] <harlowja> easier to see if its off there | |
| [17:53] <Wumpus42_> I've also tried manage-resolv-conf: true | |
| [17:53] <Wumpus42_> resolv_conf: | |
| [17:53] <Wumpus42_> ... | |
| [17:54] <Wumpus42_> ok. let me try that | |
| [17:54] <harlowja> k | |
| [17:54] <harlowja> Wumpus42_ the other thing that would be useful are the cloud-init logs | |
| [17:54] <harlowja> to see why it isn't processing those | |
| [17:54] <harlowja> typically at /var/log/cloud-init.log | |
| [17:55] <Wumpus42_> like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8749657/ | |
| [17:55] <harlowja> ya | |
| [17:55] <harlowja> so that looks fine | |
| [17:55] <Wumpus42_> I'll get the log. | |
| [17:55] <harlowja> cool | |
| [17:55] <Wumpus42_> gimme a few | |
| [17:55] <harlowja> np | |
| [17:56] <Wumpus42_> i can't irc from work comp, gotta keep switching back and forth. i've got a mtg in 5mins so it might be a few mins 'til i can respond | |
| [18:00] <harlowja> k | |
| [18:00] <harlowja> np | |
| [18:00] <harlowja> take your time | |
| [19:06] <Wumpus42_> wow. mtg going long :( Here's the logfile http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750424/ | |
| [19:07] <Wumpus42_> The cloud-init was installed in the image and left with it's defaults... except I changed the user to cloud-user | |
| [19:07] <harlowja> sure | |
| [19:08] <harlowja> can u show whats in '/var/lib/cloud/instances/i-000002dd/user-data.txt.i ' | |
| [19:08] <harlowja> also '/etc/cloud/cloud.cfg ' | |
| [19:08] <harlowja> both of those would be helpful | |
| [19:30] <Wumpus42_> ok will get those too | |
| [19:38] <Wumpus42_> here's /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750761/ | |
| [19:40] <Wumpus42_> here's user-data.txt.i http://paste.ubuntu.com/8750782/ | |
| [19:42] <dmick> harlowja: is there an easy way to boot up a pristine image but not execute the normal cloud-init path before starting a shell? (Maybe the easiest would be to supply a user script that just starts a shell, assuming I can make that happen first?) | |
| [19:43] <dmick> (and maybe I can figure out how to fuse that into the yaml coming from the NoData ISO source by using the cc: kernel cmdline arg?) | |
| [19:43] <dmick> (or am I talking crazy?) | |
| [19:44] <harlowja> dmick it really highly depends on what image this is, most of the time cloud-init is in the init system (systemd, upstart, sysvinit) so u can't easily bypass that without causing further services to not start | |
| [19:45] <harlowja> Wumpus42_ ok, so that looks all ok, doesn't seem off or anything | |
| [19:45] <dmick> how do you typically debug? logs? | |
| [19:45] <harlowja> ya | |
| [19:45] <harlowja> logs, console, other | |
| [19:46] <dmick> need to figure out why I'm getting almost no logging. | |
| [19:46] <harlowja> Wumpus42 the thing i do notice is that u are using 'power_state' which isn't in the cloud_final_modules module list thats in that image | |
| [19:47] <harlowja> so it won't do anything if no module is there to use it | |
| [19:47] <harlowja> that would likely be the cause | |
| [19:49] <harlowja> same with the resolve_conf module; not also listed in the 3 module sections (cloud_init_modules, cloud_config_modules, cloud_final_modules) | |
| [19:50] <harlowja> if a module isn't listed there, passing configuration in that uses the module won't do much | |
| [19:50] <harlowja> *since there is nothing that gets activated that uses the config in the first place | |
| [19:51] <Wumpus42_> ah. ok. i was going by the readthedocs information of cloud-init | |
| [19:52] <Wumpus42_> whish is v0.7.7 (which is odd since 0.7.6 is the latest code .tar.gz file availqable) | |
| [19:52] <Wumpus42_> i'll make sure the modules we're trying to use are in the cloud.cfg list? | |
| [19:53] <Wumpus42_> is there a way to tell what modules are available... what _could_ be in the list? | |
| [19:54] <Wumpus42_> would trying to use a non-implemented module cause the whole #cloud-config to fail? | |
| [19:54] <Wumpus42_> did you find an error in the log that I missed? | |
| [19:56] <harlowja> Wumpus42_ no, no error, just knowing how these things work mainly :-P | |
| [19:56] <harlowja> http://cloudinit.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/modules.html is being updated (slowly, it will have a more extensive description and such soon) | |
| [19:56] <harlowja> contributions welcome | |
| [19:57] <Wumpus42_> as soon as I know what I'm doing, I'll contribute. I'm still learning :) | |
| [19:57] <harlowja> kk | |
| [19:58] <Wumpus42_> thank you for your help. I'll make sure the modules I'm trying to use are enabled/available. | |
| [19:58] <Wumpus42_> maybe I'll upgrade to 0.7.6 | |
| [19:58] <harlowja> Wumpus42_ sure | |
| [19:59] <harlowja> reminds me, smoser u ok with https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/setup-virtualenv-installable/+merge/240069 if u get some time, i'll try the readthedocs build after that (hopefully then it can read the code correctly since the review makes cloud-init virtualenv installable without problems) | |
| [20:08] <smoser> harlowja, yeah. | |
| [20:08] <smoser> harlowja, i'm planning on a "fresh start" for cloud-init-2 | |
| [20:08] <harlowja> lol | |
| [20:08] <harlowja> hmmm | |
| [20:08] <smoser> and using virtual env correctly. | |
| [20:09] <harlowja> at least keep the modules ;) | |
| [20:09] <harlowja> and some other stuff, ha | |
| [20:12] <smoser> will try to keep modules | |
| [20:12] <smoser> and do them backwards compat | |
| [20:12] <smoser> but will probably have a 'handle_v2' | |
| [20:12] <smoser> and definitely want to do DataSource searching better :) | |
| [20:14] <harlowja> an idea, instead of having module lists, probe all modules, with a probe() function on the module, and let the module decide if it should run or not (instead of having static lists) | |
| [20:15] <smoser> harlowja, yeah, but order is hard. | |
| [20:15] <smoser> the list allows me to list the order. | |
| [20:16] <harlowja> have probe return a number to :-P | |
| [20:16] <smoser> like sysvinit is easy to understand, so is this :) | |
| [20:16] <smoser> rather than declaring "wants" | |
| [20:16] <smoser> or "start on" | |
| [20:16] <harlowja> :) | |
| [20:18] <harlowja> ok, fair enough, at least a validate(conf) method though | |
| [20:23] <harlowja> ok, added more ideas to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cloud-init-next | |
| [20:27] <smoser> definitely validate(conf) | |
| [20:27] <smoser> and ability to run that external to cloud-init running. | |
| [20:28] <harlowja> ya | |