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| [10:27] <willcooke> morning all | |
| [10:41] <pitti> GunnarHj: hey! sorry for the delay, I basically spent the whole weekend travelling; I'm looking at your bug now | |
| [10:47] <GunnarHj> pitti: No problem, Martin. | |
| [12:20] <seb128> good morning desktopers | |
| [12:21] <darkxst> hey seb128, pretty late morning for you? | |
| [12:21] <seb128> hey darkxst | |
| [12:22] <seb128> we are in Washington this week | |
| [12:22] <seb128> it's 8am here ;-) | |
| [12:23] <darkxst> heh there you go, sneaky timezone change ;) | |
| [12:23] <seb128> indeed | |
| [12:24] <pitti> hey darkxst, how are you? | |
| [12:24] <darkxst> hey pitti, good but tired, its probably past my bed time again | |
| [12:35] <didrocks> hey darkxst ;) | |
| [12:35] <darkxst> hey didrocks | |
| [12:35] <darkxst> how are you? your in washington as well? | |
| [12:38] <didrocks> darkxst: yeah, back from Japan on Friday evening, stayed a day in France and in Washington now | |
| [12:39] <didrocks> my body doesn't really know what timezone it is in right now TBH :) | |
| [12:41] <darkxst> didrocks, that happens! | |
| [12:43] <darkxst> maybe you can come visit Ubuntu GNOME Australia next ;) that will whack your timezones! | |
| [12:43] <didrocks> darkxst: indeed, then a stop in south america and back home ;) | |
| [12:49] <darkxst> didrocks, Aus is too large though, Ali just moved here (our non-technical stuff leader) and noskcaj is here, but its like international europe type travel to catch up | |
| [12:49] <darkxst> so you should come to melbourne and not sydnet like ali ;) | |
| [12:50] <didrocks> hehe ;) At least, you have multiple timezones and so have sane light hours, not like China where there is just one timezone for everybody. | |
| [12:51] <darkxst> didrocks, well perth has its own timezone | |
| [12:51] <darkxst> Adelaide don't count, its only half an hour off ours | |
| [12:52] <didrocks> ah, indeed, those 30 minutes timezones… | |
| [12:54] <darkxst> then you have brisbane who refuse to have daylight savings, so they become their own time zone in summer | |
| [12:55] <darkxst> (upsets the cows apparently) | |
| [12:56] <didrocks> interesting… not easy to coordinate on times when you have meetings I guess :) | |
| [13:00] <darkxst> didrocks, organising meeting is a bit of nightmare, but thats more due the international aspect combined with when people are free from their real jobs | |
| [13:01] <didrocks> yeah, that part is quite hard. I remembered before I entered canonical having to hurry up in the evening or leaving slightly early for some ubuntu meetings (even local ones in Paris) or going late | |
| [13:06] <czajkowski> aloha :) just wondering if this bug is on the radar for release this week ? bug 1235567 | |
| [13:06] <ubot5> bug 1235567 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-ui-gtk3 crashed with SIGABRT" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1235567 | |
| [13:12] <seb128> happyaron, ^ | |
| [13:13] <seb128> czajkowski, hey | |
| [13:13] <seb128> czajkowski, wasn't that fixed with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/1.5.8-2ubuntu2 ? | |
| [13:13] <seb128> oh, maybe not | |
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| [13:39] <Laney> yo | |
| === Guest4574 is now known as mfisch | |
| [14:02] <czajkowski> seb128: nope :( just did updates and restart still the same | |
| [14:16] <willcooke_> seb128, is didrocks with you? Could you ask him to log in to IRC if he can | |
| [14:16] <seb128> willcooke_, yeah, we are sitting together, he's on the Canonical IRC, joining here | |
| [14:17] <willcooke_> thx seb128 | |
| [14:17] <Laney> slacker | |
| [14:17] <willcooke_> :) | |
| [14:17] <seb128> Laney, hey! | |
| [14:17] <seb128> Laney, how is the nautilus upload review going? | |
| [14:18] <Laney> 20/10 15:03:30 <Laney> Where are we with accepting stuff / britney blocks / respins? | |
| [14:18] <seb128> thanks | |
| [14:18] <seb128> wrong tz! | |
| [14:19] <Laney> if not then it can be an SRU | |
| [14:31] <seb128> czajkowski, do you use ibus? how do you trigger the bug? | |
| [14:31] <seb128> running the binary by hand doesn't sigabrt here | |
| [14:33] <czajkowski> seb128: happens on start up and launching chromium | |
| [14:33] <seb128> hum, k | |
| [14:35] <larsu> mvo: software-properties doesn't build. Do you know about that? | |
| [14:35] <mvo> larsu: I don't - do you have a link or does it not build locally for you? | |
| [14:35] <mvo> larsu: did you do bzr-buildpackage? or how did you build it? | |
| [14:36] <larsu> mvo: locally with bzr bd, yes: http://paste.debian.net/127738/ | |
| [14:37] <mvo> larsu: hmmm, "(setup.py:1915): Gdk-ERROR **: error: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the environment." ? is this something in glib that changed? | |
| [14:38] <mvo> larsu: I suspsect this comes from the python-setuptools-extra auto magic | |
| [14:38] <desrt> mvo: more likely something in the login stuff | |
| [14:39] <desrt> this variable should always be set | |
| [14:39] <larsu> I guess it's not set in whatever env python builds stuff? | |
| [14:39] <mvo> desrt: unless its build in a environment with "env -i" | |
| [14:39] <desrt> we fall back to using ~/.cache/ by default | |
| [14:40] <desrt> this error is not coming from gdk..... | |
| [14:40] <desrt> there is no mention of the word RUNTIME anywhere in the source | |
| [14:41] <desrt> (of all of gtk) | |
| [14:41] <mvo> desrt, larsu: "env -i python setup.py build" makes it fail hard | |
| [14:42] <desrt> mvo: can you get a backtrace on the path that causes this error to pop out? | |
| [14:42] <desrt> between larsu and i we can't imagine a way that it could come from gtk/gdk/glib | |
| [14:42] <larsu> mvo: where does this error come from? setup.py doesn't have the lines that the output complains about | |
| [14:42] * larsu doesn't know anything about python's setup stuff | |
| [14:43] <mvo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8602545/ | |
| [14:43] <mvo> larsu: its much deeper down it seems | |
| [14:43] <desrt> wayland win | |
| [14:43] <mvo> yeah | |
| [14:43] <mvo> my thought exactly | |
| [14:43] <desrt> i bet gdk registers a log output function with wayland | |
| [14:43] <desrt> and verbatim-prints the message as it comes back | |
| [14:44] <desrt> i think i heard before that wayland violates the spec a bit here | |
| [14:44] <desrt> "If $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set applications should fall back to a replacement directory with similar capabilities and print a warning message" -- says desrt in the spec | |
| [14:46] <mvo> larsu, desrt: do you want to take care of this or should I change connect_to_socket() to not fail hard but instead use the glib fallback? | |
| [14:47] <desrt> mvo: already on the case | |
| [14:47] <mvo> desrt: great, thanks | |
| [14:47] <larsu> mvo: thanks :) | |
| [14:47] <mvo> larsu: thanks for brining it up | |
| [14:47] <desrt> mvo: you may try setting GDK_BACKEND=x11 | |
| [14:48] <desrt> maybe this won't fail as hard? | |
| [14:48] <desrt> (ie: avoid running the bad code) | |
| [14:49] <mvo> desrt: right, I would really like to fix it in either python-setuptools-extra or wayland itself as it will probably affect everything that uses the setuptools-extra stuff | |
| [14:49] <mvo> desrt: so my inclination would be to add a patch to our wayland to use the same fallback dir that glib is using in this case | |
| [14:49] <desrt> mvo: we need to fix it in wayland or figure out a way to avoid it in gdk.... | |
| [14:49] <mvo> desrt: or could wayland simply use glib to get this directory? | |
| [14:49] <mvo> desrt: yeah | |
| [14:49] <desrt> could be as simple as early-aborting init of the gdk wayland backend if we detect this variable unset | |
| [14:50] <mvo> sounds good to me as well | |
| [14:58] <desrt> mvo: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738873 | |
| [14:58] <ubot5> Gnome bug 738873 in Backend: Wayland "wayland backend aborts entire program if XDG_RUNTIME_DIR unset" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | |
| [15:05] <seb128> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1425 | |
| [15:06] <seb128> new name is out! | |
| [15:06] <desrt> robert_ancell: bug list? | |
| [15:07] <robert_ancell> desrt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-mir) | |
| [15:07] <robert_ancell> desrt, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.tag=gtk-mir | |
| [15:07] * desrt has a couple of his own | |
| [15:07] <robert_ancell> tag em | |
| [15:08] <Trevinho> marga: hey, have you been able to save some time for checking the SRU bugs you reported? | |
| [15:08] <Trevinho> marga: as SRU is slowing down... | |
| [15:08] <larsu> seb128: cool! | |
| [15:09] <marga> Trevinho, sorry, these past weeks have been awful. | |
| [15:09] <marga> The new NVIDIA drivers were a disaster | |
| [15:09] <Trevinho> marga: oh... I'm sorry for that | |
| [15:17] <Trevinho> marga: anyway, if you can get these verifications done quickly, we can move to the next SRU with more lockscreen fixes (so you don't need that ppa anymore) | |
| [15:35] <mvo> larsu: thanks for your softare-properites branch, is this something we want to upload into utopic at this point ? or is this SRU material? (my gut feeling is SRU) | |
| [15:37] <mvo> larsu: is there a open bug for this already? | |
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| [18:44] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Hi Robert! | |
| [18:44] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, hello | |
| [18:45] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Have you noticed that lightdm trunk and the Ubuntu branch are out of sync? | |
| [18:45] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, the ubuntu branch is from lp:lightdm/1.12 | |
| [18:46] <robert_ancell> which I think is in sync | |
| [18:46] <robert_ancell> trunk will be used for vivid | |
| [18:46] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Then I see. Thanks! :) | |
| [18:47] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, did you want to propose your change into utopic? We'll have to SRU it if so | |
| [18:47] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: No, I supposed it was too late anyway. | |
| [18:48] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: But I'll probably propose SRUs to utopic and trusty. | |
| [18:48] <robert_ancell> ok | |
| [18:49] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Btw, do you use respective trunk for SRUs also? | |
| [18:49] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, yes | |
| [18:50] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Ok, then I know. | |
| [18:50] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, so just do the paperwork for the Launchpad bug, propose it for the appropriate release and do a MP to backport the changes | |
| [18:51] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Right, I know what's into it. | |
| [18:53] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: As a starter, could you please create the tasks at bug #678421? | |
| [18:53] <ubot5> bug 678421 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Error message for a faulty ~/.profile script" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/678421 | |
| [18:53] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, sure | |
| [18:56] <robert_ancell> GunnarHj, all done | |
| [18:56] <GunnarHj> robert_ancell: Thanks! | |
| [20:40] <larsu> attente_: hey, are you around? | |
| [20:40] <soren> The recent files/folders that Unity shows... Where does that come from? | |
| [20:41] <attente_> larsu: hey | |
| [20:41] <attente_> how's washington? | |
| [20:41] <larsu> attente_: we miss you :) | |
| [20:41] <Laney> lonely without you | |
| [20:41] <attente_> :) | |
| [20:42] <larsu> attente_: I hear I should talk to you about input methods :) | |
| [20:42] <larsu> attente_: we've carried this patch for gtk for a long time which disables the 'viqr' im | |
| [20:42] <larsu> apparently more vietnamese people want to use telex | |
| [20:43] <larsu> not sure what kind of input method is selected for vi now, and where I could look | |
| [20:43] <larsu> and also not how stuff like ibus relates to the input methods in gtk | |
| [20:46] <attente_> oh. i don't know anything about vietnamese input. you want to drop the patch or something like that? | |
| [20:46] <larsu> attente_: ideally, yes | |
| [20:47] <larsu> attente_: or apply upstream if we really need it | |
| [20:47] <larsu> but then we have an im module in gtk that isn't used by any language | |
| [20:49] <Laney> by default | |
| [20:49] <Laney> presumably you can turn it on | |
| [22:01] <achiang> hi, while looking to figure out how to make compiz/unity do window shade (title bar rollup), i pressed ctrl-alt-s just to see what might happen... how do i get that window back now? ;) | |
| [22:01] <achiang> oh, alt-tab gets it | |
| [22:01] <achiang> alternatively, how do i actually get window shading to work? | |