| [07:23] <seb128> good morning desktopers | |
| [07:23] <willcooke> hey seb128 | |
| [07:23] <seb128> hey robert_ancell | |
| [07:23] <seb128> hey willcooke | |
| [07:24] <pitti> bonjour seb128 | |
| [07:24] <seb128> lut pitti, ça va bien ? | |
| [07:26] <pitti> seb128: oui, merci -- mais j'attends avec impatience le weekend, pour que je peux dormir :) | |
| [07:26] <seb128> pitti, moi c'est pareil ! | |
| [07:26] <robert_ancell> seb128, hello | |
| [07:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, how are you? | |
| [07:26] <robert_ancell> seb128, good, yourself? | |
| [07:26] <seb128> I'm good thanks | |
| [07:26] <seb128> robert_ancell, what are you working on those days? ;-) | |
| [07:26] <robert_ancell> I hope you are all enjoying a beer at the present like I am :) | |
| [07:27] <pitti> eww, beer in the morning! :-) | |
| [07:27] <robert_ancell> seb128, lightdm, mps, u-s-d | |
| [07:27] <seb128> haha | |
| [07:27] <seb128> friday evening for the lucky ones! | |
| [07:27] <robert_ancell> will cycle back to gtk-mir next week and see if I can make anymore headway on that | |
| [07:28] <seb128> the utopic version works less nicely than the demo we had in Malta here | |
| [07:28] <seb128> could be due to Mir | |
| [07:28] <seb128> like I can't type in gedit | |
| [07:28] <seb128> nor open menus | |
| [07:29] <robert_ancell> yeah, the goalposts might have moved | |
| [07:29] <robert_ancell> Malta was a pretty tuned hack | |
| [07:30] <RAOF> The things that bumped GTK support from the front of my queue are almost resolved, and the groundwork for it has already been merged. | |
| [07:31] <willcooke> Does anyone know if the session unlock issue is going to get a fix on the Desktop Next image any time soon? | |
| [07:31] <RAOF> So Mir might be more able to support GTK better in the not too distant future. | |
| [07:31] <robert_ancell> RAOF, yay! | |
| [07:31] <seb128> willcooke, it should be fixed with https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-016/ you can opt in to try it | |
| [07:32] <willcooke> thx seb128 | |
| [07:32] <seb128> RAOF, nice | |
| [07:32] <seb128> robert_ancell, btw did you see that Laney had issues with your u-s-d/gnome-desktop changes? | |
| [07:32] <robert_ancell> seb128, yes, I've only started looking at them, hopefully will resolve early next week | |
| [07:32] <robert_ancell> I don't think they | |
| [07:33] <robert_ancell> 're a big problem, just some detail to track down | |
| [07:33] <seb128> right | |
| [07:33] <seb128> things is that ff was yesterday | |
| [07:34] <seb128> but well, I guess we can get an exception for that landing | |
| [07:34] <seb128> (the Ubuntu GNOME team really want the updated gnome-desktop in) | |
| [07:36] <robert_ancell> seb128, yeah, I figured it's not worth rushing | |
| [07:36] <seb128> right, still might be good to put high on the todolist | |
| [07:36] <robert_ancell> first thing next wekk | |
| [07:36] <robert_ancell> week | |
| [07:36] <seb128> thanks | |
| [07:39] <robert_ancell> seb128, anything else high prio? | |
| [07:39] <seb128> not that I can think about, no | |
| [07:39] <seb128> GTK Mir ;-) | |
| [07:39] <robert_ancell> seb128, oh, we can land the idle part of the u-s-d mp right? | |
| [07:40] <robert_ancell> I had a look at doing the process myself but we seemed to be in TRAINWRECK0 or something | |
| [07:42] <willcooke> ok, I give up. What changed in sshd config in Utopic? Why can't I just ssh in? | |
| [07:43] <seb128> ssh in what? | |
| [07:43] <willcooke> I want to ssh in to my touchscreen laptop to add that ppa | |
| [07:43] <seb128> robert_ancell, u-s-d, isn't that what laney had symbol conflict issues with? | |
| [07:43] <seb128> willcooke, hum, unsure, the phone config stuff changes but desktop shouldn't | |
| [07:44] <robert_ancell> seb128, with the RandR stuff, but not the Idle stuff afaik. | |
| [07:44] <robert_ancell> Laney, confirm? | |
| [07:46] <seb128> robert_ancell, saw https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/unity-settings-daemon/xrandr/+merge/224548/comments/561618 ? | |
| [07:47] <seb128> next comment as well on the same mr | |
| [07:47] <robert_ancell> seb128, ah, he's tried the other branch there I guess | |
| [07:47] <willcooke> hrm. I removed and re-added ssh, now it works. I'll try and recreate and open a bug | |
| [07:47] <seb128> k | |
| [07:51] <willcooke> seb128, it works, it works, it works!!! Woohoo! | |
| [07:55] <seb128> yeah \o/ | |
| [08:00] <willcooke> hey larsu - shall we have our weekly meeting? | |
| [08:00] <larsu> willcooke: I was just about to write the same :) | |
| [08:00] <willcooke> :D | |
| [08:20] <willcooke> seb128, I will be in and out a bit today. I'm still coughing a lot and might go back to bed for a few hours | |
| [08:22] <seb128> willcooke, ok, get better! | |
| [08:23] <seb128> is that still the same cold since China? | |
| [08:23] <seb128> or did you just got another one after getting over the first one?. | |
| [08:24] <willcooke> seb128, different one. I was getting over the China one on the last day there. Then I got home and my son had a cough, we took him to the Dr's and they said he had tonsillitis and not to let him cough on you. | |
| [08:24] <willcooke> but he's six | |
| [08:24] <willcooke> so he doesnt cover his mouth when he coughs | |
| [08:24] <willcooke> (despite me telling him to) | |
| [08:25] <willcooke> and now I have the same thing :( | |
| [08:25] <willcooke> is Google calendar down for anyone else? | |
| [08:25] <seb128> :-( | |
| [08:25] <seb128> calendar is working for me | |
| [08:25] <willcooke> popey, is Gcal working for you? | |
| [08:26] <willcooke> (assuming Laney is on the road) | |
| [08:26] <seb128> (yeah, he should be) | |
| [08:34] <popey> willcooke: yes. | |
| [08:35] <willcooke> yes = broken popey ? | |
| [08:35] <willcooke> *broken, popey | |
| [08:36] <popey> eh | |
| [08:36] <popey> 09:25:57 < willcooke> popey, is Gcal working for you? | |
| [08:36] <popey> 09:34:40 < popey> willcooke: yes. | |
| [08:36] <popey> no, no, no, no, no.... yes. | |
| [08:36] <willcooke> :D | |
| [08:37] <willcooke> well darn. | |
| [08:37] <willcooke> why isnt it working for me | |
| [08:37] <willcooke> maybe some new cookies | |
| [08:37] <popey> Have you tried rebooting? | |
| [08:38] <willcooke> and now it works | |
| [08:38] <willcooke> clear cookies | |
| [08:39] <seb128> popey, rebooting? it's not win95 here | |
| [08:39] <willcooke> \o/ | |
| [08:40] <willcooke> So, the Inspiron 3137 | |
| [08:40] <willcooke> I don't like the keyboard | |
| [08:40] <willcooke> and I don't like the glossy screen | |
| [08:40] <willcooke> but I *love* it | |
| [08:40] <willcooke> the laptop is really nice. Quite fast with an SSD, U8 works nicely | |
| [08:41] <seb128> do they make touch screens which are not glossy? | |
| [08:41] <willcooke> good point | |
| [08:41] <seb128> or does touch need to be glass that is glossy by definition? | |
| [08:41] <larsu> it doesn't have to be, but they need more robust surfaces for touch | |
| [08:41] <larsu> so they usually go with something glassy | |
| [08:41] <larsu> also, most people prefer the look | |
| [08:42] <seb128> do they have non glassy surfaces that work and are cheap enough? | |
| [08:42] <willcooke> you can get not glossy glass, e.g. in picture frames you can get non-reflective glass, but it costs $$$$$$$ | |
| [08:42] <willcooke> and is also witch craft | |
| [08:43] <larsu> ah - they also use those for glasses, right? | |
| [08:43] <willcooke> ahh, yes - good point | |
| [08:47] <popey> seb128: it's a joke ☻ | |
| [08:48] <popey> (there is a UK situation comedy involving computer helpdesk workers who use 'have you tried rebooting' as their first suggestion every time) | |
| [08:48] <seb128> popey, oh, the it crowd | |
| [08:48] <seb128> didrocks showed me some episods | |
| [08:49] <seb128> ;-) | |
| [08:50] * ochosi always wondered if an it girl was part of an it crowd | |
| [08:50] <popey> ☻ | |
| [08:51] <willcooke> :D | |
| [09:02] <willcooke> seb128, FYI Monday is a public holiday in the UK | |
| [09:02] <seb128> willcooke, ok, enjoy it! | |
| [09:14] <tjaalton> is there a capplet for fonts anymore? | |
| [09:14] <tjaalton> font scaling in utopic seems regressed | |
| [09:18] <tjaalton> or maybe the default font size just got bumped? | |
| [09:19] <seb128> nothing should have changed, and no there is no capplet since GNOME3 | |
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| [09:21] <tjaalton> i have a test system with a 3200x1800 panel, and with default scaling things look tiny | |
| [09:21] <tjaalton> so I had it bumped to 1.5 so that dash icons are bigger and font readable | |
| [09:22] <tjaalton> but now after upgrade the fonts got even bigger | |
| [09:22] <seb128> weird, we didn't change much in the gnome and unity stacks | |
| [09:23] <seb128> bregma might know about the issue | |
| [09:23] <tjaalton> the capplet icon size didn't change, but the captions did so the text doesn't fit under the icon | |
| [09:24] <tjaalton> but I guess those icons don't scale | |
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| [11:42] <bregma> tjaalton, that weird font scaling problem is caused by *something* setting the Large Text accessibility option when the Gnome text scaling factor is increased -- and we haven't identified the culprit yet | |
| [11:42] <bregma> you can turn it off again in the control center then roll the dice the next time you start a new session | |
| [11:42] <seb128> bregma, that something is likely the settings daemon | |
| [11:42] <seb128> or unity | |
| [11:43] <tjaalton> bregma: ah, ok | |
| [11:43] <seb128> nothing else play with settings on session start | |
| [11:43] <tjaalton> good to know | |
| [11:45] <bregma> it's not Unity, but there's definitely a race during startup because sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't, and sometimes the text starts out OK and then suddenly jumps bigger | |
| [11:46] <bregma> it's the last scaling bug we know about that hasn't been fixed yet | |
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| [14:04] <qengho> cyphermox: bonjour! Verify this please? https://code.launchpad.net/~cmiller/ubuntu/utopic/urfkill/lp1357576-segv-formatstring/+merge/231897 | |
| [14:04] <cyphermox> gladly | |
| [14:05] <cyphermox> fail | |
| [14:05] <cyphermox> I fail | |
| [14:06] <qengho> cyphermox: I'm kind of alarmed the "hardening wrapper" bit didn't raise an compilation error at that. :\ | |
| [14:06] <cyphermox> hehe | |
| [14:07] <cyphermox> hardening-wrapper is something that needs to go from this package too; there are other ways | |
| [14:07] <cyphermox> so, looks good; with the only exception that we could also just remove the patch | |
| [14:08] <cyphermox> do you need me to sponsor it or can you upload it? | |
| [14:08] <qengho> cyphermox: please sponsor. | |
| [14:10] <cyphermox> np | |
| [14:29] <cyphermox> qengho: I added the change for hardening; I'm uploading as soon as sbuild returns | |
| [14:29] <qengho> ack. | |
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