| [02:36] <jose> QUESTION: Why am I seeing [Review Queue] emails now? | |
| [02:44] <sarnold> jose: oops, did you do enough good work to earn more work? :) | |
| [02:44] <jose> sarnold: hehe nope, they're on the juju mailing list | |
| [02:44] <sarnold> oh :) | |
| [02:44] <jose> I was just wondering if it had something to do with the new revq that's on the works! | |
| [03:03] <tvansteenburgh> jose: no that's just a new thing we're doing. we're taking 2-hr time blocks on the review queue and reporting our progress to the list | |
| [03:03] <jose> tvansteenburgh: oh, it's good to know :) | |
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| [11:48] <jam> I have a question about the appropriate way to write a charm configuration. | |
| [11:48] <jam> I have in mind a very simple charm that I give my account credentials to, and it issues "juju destroy-environment" after a given timeout. | |
| [11:49] <jam> So that I can deploy the charm when I have just a testing env, and make sure it dies even if I forget about it. | |
| [11:50] <jam> But I'd like to have it allow a syntax like "destroy after 45 minutes" or something along those lines | |
| [11:50] <jam> but it seems odd to have a config setting that would "reset" the state every time config-changed runs. | |
| [12:32] <marcoceppi> stokachu: what do you mean it breaks it? | |
| [12:40] <jam> marcoceppi: there you are. I ran into https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-tools/+bug/1359170 trying to use charm-tools with trunk juju | |
| [12:40] <mup> Bug #1359170: juju charm create fails in an unhelpful fashion with juju-1.21 in PATH <Juju Charm Tools:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1359170> | |
| [12:40] <jam> I'm not sure that you're the maintainer, but I thought I'd start with you | |
| [12:41] <marcoceppi> jam: I am one of them, this is concerning, I'm not sure what I can do to fix it | |
| [12:41] <marcoceppi> seems like juju-core is not being so nice | |
| [12:41] <marcoceppi> ? | |
| [12:41] <jam> marcoceppi: so something is failing in the subprocess starting other things, but its unclear what | |
| [12:42] <marcoceppi> jam: I'll compile from trunk and punch on it a bit | |
| [12:42] <marcoceppi> jam: any idea when 1.21 is expected? | |
| [12:42] <jam> marcoceppi: so I think we set "command.Env" | |
| [12:43] <jam> and probably juju-create expects PATH to be in there, but we aren't putting it in? | |
| [12:43] <jam> no, we are appending to os.Environ() so that should be ok. | |
| [12:43] <jam> ... | |
| [12:43] <marcoceppi> i mean, we're just using argparse in python | |
| [12:43] <jam> though the way we are doing that makes me wonder if we are actually mutating os.Environ() in-procses (not that it really matters) | |
| [12:43] <marcoceppi> nothing too crazy | |
| [12:43] <jam> marcoceppi: you're looking for /usr/bin/charm-create and invoking that | |
| [12:43] <jam> from juju-chram | |
| [12:44] <jam> juju-charm | |
| [12:44] <jam> which then uses setuptools to again look up where main is, etc. | |
| [12:44] <marcoceppi> oh, right, for "plugin mapping" | |
| [12:44] <marcoceppi> let me compile, throw in some debug statements, see what I can find | |
| [12:50] <jam> marcoceppi: doing "print sys.argv" in juju-charm shows me: | |
| [12:50] <jam> $ juju charm create -h | |
| [12:50] <jam> args ['/usr/bin/juju-charm'] | |
| [12:50] <jam> marcoceppi: vs 1.18 does: | |
| [12:50] <jam> $ /usr/bin/juju charm create -h | |
| [12:50] <jam> args ['/usr/bin/juju-charm', 'create', '-h'] | |
| [12:50] <marcoceppi> ah, so that's what is different | |
| [12:51] <marcoceppi> bug in core I guess? | |
| [12:52] <jam> marcoceppi: yeah | |
| [12:52] <marcoceppi> \o/ less work for me | |
| [12:52] <marcoceppi> jam: thanks for catching that though | |
| [12:58] <rm4> could anyone help possibly with charm debug | |
| [12:58] <rm4> juju debug-hooks wordpress/3 loadbalancer-relation-joined | |
| [12:59] <rm4> I was hoping to see a special prompt with % | |
| [12:59] <rm4> but I just get: | |
| [12:59] <rm4> root@vagrant-local-machine-34:~# | |
| [12:59] <jrwren_> rm4: did you resolved --retry yet ? | |
| [13:00] <rm4> don't quite follow sorry | |
| [13:01] <jrwren_> rm4: something needs to trigger the hook executing again, assuming it is in a failed state. juju resolved --retry <unit> will trigger this. | |
| [13:02] <jrwren_> rm4: do that in a different terminal and your debug-hook tmux will open a new tmux window with the special prompt | |
| [13:02] <rm4> vagrant@vagrant-ubuntu-trusty-64:~$ juju resolved --retry wordpress/3 ERROR unit "wordpress/3" is not in an error state | |
| [13:03] <rm4> it all works but I would like to see what is happening | |
| [13:03] <rm4> so I can make a charm | |
| [13:04] <jrwren_> rm4: In that case, you could remove the unit and add it again and immediately after running add run the debug-hook and hope you were fast enough to catch the hooks (you likely will be). | |
| [13:05] <jrwren_> rm4: or if you are only interested in that relation, remove and add that relation | |
| [13:07] <aisrael> In cloud-images, what's the functional difference supposed to be between the vagrant boxes in http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/ vs. http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/? | |
| [13:08] <rm4> thanks jrwren | |
| [13:08] <rick_h__> aisrael: might be good to pin utlemming on that. He's in CO so might not be on for a bit. | |
| [13:08] <rm4> I'll try and come back | |
| [13:08] <rick_h__> adeuring: do you know the answer to aisrael's question ^ ? | |
| [13:09] <jcastro> aisrael, the first one has all the boxes | |
| [13:09] <jcastro> the 2nd one only has the latest builds | |
| [13:09] <jcastro> the boxes get published every few weeks, so we keep those around too | |
| [13:09] <jcastro> what is in /current will always be the latest one | |
| [13:10] <aisrael> The reason I'm asking: the image in current/ only sets up one adapter (nat) and doesn't provision juju. | |
| [13:10] <aisrael> The larger image bootstraps, but sets up two adapters (nat and hostonly) | |
| [13:10] <jcastro> ok, the ones without juju in the filename | |
| [13:10] <jcastro> are just the normal vanilla vagrant boxes | |
| [13:11] <jcastro> the ones with juju in them are supposed to bootstrap/gui, etc. with juju | |
| [13:11] <adeuring> aisrael: the smaller files are "plain" ubuntu cloud images, while the larger files have juju preinstalled, and the Juju GUI is installed during Vagrant's provisioning | |
| [13:11] <aisrael> jcastro: Oh, duh. | |
| [13:11] <aisrael> ok, so that's one doc I should look at getting updated | |
| [13:11] <jcastro> which one? | |
| [13:11] <aisrael> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/howto-vagrant-workflow.html | |
| [13:12] <aisrael> points to a non-existent box, in current/ | |
| [13:12] <jcastro> ah yes | |
| [13:12] <jcastro> damn, I fixed the config-vagrant page | |
| [13:12] <jcastro> but totally forgot about this one, yeah, fix it in the docs please. | |
| [13:12] <aisrael> and I'm still troubleshooting why the networking problem | |
| [13:13] <jcastro> https://github.com/juju/docs has the instructions | |
| [13:13] <jcastro> they're in markdown, very easy to fix | |
| [13:13] <aisrael> excellent, I'll add to my list today | |
| [13:13] <jcastro> mbruzek, coreycb: did you guys not review yesterday? | |
| [13:14] <mbruzek> jcastro What makes you say that? | |
| [13:14] <coreycb> jcastro, review what? | |
| [13:14] <jcastro> the review queue, you guys were on the calendar yesterday | |
| [13:15] <coreycb> jcastro, hmm not familiar with the calendar.. sorry. I do need to start doing more reviews though. | |
| [13:15] <jcastro> we each were supposed to pick 2 hours a week to review, then send the results to the list. | |
| [13:15] <mbruzek> Yes I reviewed the ufw changes for elasticsearch and I DID email the group about it. | |
| [13:16] <mbruzek> jcastro, I think you have coreycb mixed up with cory_fu | |
| [13:17] <jcastro> hah yes I do! sorry about that coreycb | |
| [13:17] <jcastro> I meant cory_fu | |
| [13:17] <coreycb> jcastro, ahh, np | |
| [13:18] <jcastro> oh excellent! | |
| [13:18] <jcastro> mbruzek, I now see both of your [Review Queue] posts, that is quite excellent! | |
| [13:19] <mbruzek> thanks for the positive reinforcement jcastro | |
| [13:19] <mbruzek> and for checking up on me | |
| [13:19] <jcastro> hah | |
| [13:19] <jcastro> it is unclear to me if you merged his changes though | |
| [13:29] <jam> marcoceppi: turns out it only happens if you don't have an environment set | |
| [13:29] <jam> I *might* be rare in not having a default env | |
| [13:29] <marcoceppi> jam: that's fun! | |
| [13:29] <jam> or using juju switch | |
| [13:29] <jam> marcoceppi: I always run "juju command -e env" | |
| [13:29] <jam> so that I know what environment it is running in | |
| [13:32] <ctlaugh> jamespag`: Hi, mwhudson sent me... I'm having a problem with the cinder charm on a system with only 1 drive. I am trying to have it use a loopback file for storage. The file is created, the loop device (/dev/loop0) is created, but the volume group is never created. | |
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| [14:03] <rm4> I managed to get charm debug working | |
| [14:03] <rm4> thanks for that | |
| [14:04] <rm4> bit of a different prompt to documentation though | |
| [14:04] <rm4> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/authors-hook-debug.html shows ~ | |
| [14:05] <marcoceppi> rm4: ah, yes, debug-hooks shows unit/hook-context now | |
| [14:06] <rm4> root@vagrant-local-machine-34:/var/lib/juju/agents/unit-wordpress-3/charm/hooks# relation-get | |
| [14:06] <rm4> private-address: 10.0.3.181 | |
| [14:06] <rm4> yes I think so | |
| [14:07] <marcoceppi> rm4: that's the prompt you get for debug-hooks? | |
| [14:07] <marcoceppi> it should look like wordpress/3@<hook-name> | |
| [14:35] <rm4> that was the prompt for debug-hooks yes | |
| [14:38] <jrwren_> rm4: is that window 0 of tmux or window 1 ? | |
| [14:39] <rm4> 12.04.5 0:- 1:website-relation-departed* | |
| [14:39] <rm4> I think that is 1 | |
| [14:49] <rm4> I was in /home/ubuntu | |
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| [19:01] <natefinch> marcoceppi: are you and the other charmers on the juju-dev mailing list? | |
| [19:02] <marcoceppi> natefinch: I am | |
| [19:02] <natefinch> marcoceppi: ahh, right, I remember you responding to the default-hook thread. | |
| [19:03] <natefinch> marcoceppi: you offered to survey the current charms and see which ones used the all-symlink model... do you know when you might get that done? I know it's a big job. | |
| [19:16] <marcoceppi> natefinch: I can do that now, should take about 15 mins | |
| [19:18] <natefinch> marcoceppi: that would be fantastic, thank you | |
| [19:32] <marcoceppi> natefinch: here are precise charms in the store, slightly curated: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8100495/ | |
| [19:32] <marcoceppi> natefinch: and the command used to get that, by running it in a directory which `charm getall` was fetched | |
| [19:32] <marcoceppi> for f in `find */hooks/ -maxdepth 1`; do if [ -L $f ]; then echo "$(echo $f | awk -F/ '{print $1}') `readlink $f`"; fi; done | sort | uniq | |
| [19:33] <marcoceppi> charm common file | |
| [19:34] <marcoceppi> well, "charm" "common file" is the output | |
| [19:41] <natefinch> marcoceppi: nice | |
| [19:44] <natefinch> marcoceppi: so, are there any that symlink only some of the hooks? | |
| [19:44] <marcoceppi> natefinch: yes | |
| [19:44] <marcoceppi> natefinch: most all hooks that say relation_common | |
| [19:44] <marcoceppi> indicates that only some of the hooks of that are symlinked | |
| [19:45] <marcoceppi> I also removed entries that were just sylinks between relation-joined and relation-changed | |
| [19:45] <marcoceppi> since that's a stupid pattern and easy enough to clean up | |
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| [19:45] <natefinch> marcoceppi: heh | |
| [19:46] <natefinch> marcoceppi: so how many charms are there total? I'd like to know what this is 62 out of :) | |
| [19:47] <marcoceppi> 162 | |
| [19:47] <marcoceppi> also, there are some dupliates in there | |
| [19:47] <marcoceppi> as some are inconsistently symlinked (./hooks.py vs hooks.py) | |
| [19:47] <marcoceppi> that list needs to be curated a bit more | |
| [19:48] <marcoceppi> also does not include trusty charms | |
| [19:59] <natefinch> marcoceppi: thanks, I got rid of dupes, easy enough | |
| [20:54] <mwhudson> ctlaugh: :( | |
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