| [04:16] <xfrozty> Hey, can someone help me get my touchpad setup? | |
| [04:16] <xfrozty> apparently I have the drivers but when I run synclient I get: Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded? | |
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| [11:49] <rafaellaguna> suncokret, I was looking for you | |
| [11:50] <suncokret> hello | |
| [11:50] <suncokret> i am here | |
| [11:50] <suncokret> :) | |
| [11:50] <suncokret> what's new? | |
| [11:50] <rafaellaguna> I figured out what problem was, a few minutes after we disconnected | |
| [11:50] <rafaellaguna> I feel stupid :| | |
| [11:51] <rafaellaguna> there's no bug at all | |
| [11:52] <rafaellaguna> since a few releases, synaptic is a GTK3 app. Crux is a GTK2 theme with no support for GTK3 widgets. That's the problem. It's a very very old theme, unmaintained. | |
| [11:53] <suncokret> so which theme is gtk3 | |
| [11:53] <suncokret> ? | |
| [11:53] <rafaellaguna> many, ambiance, radiance, Lubuntu Box ;) , Zuki, Elementary, etc... | |
| [11:54] <suncokret> is any of them instaled with system or i need to download them? | |
| [11:55] <rafaellaguna> you have to install light-themes (these are ubuntu themes), or use the Lubuntu ones (already installed if you have Lubuntu, abviously) | |
| [11:55] <rafaellaguna> but you can download more, at www.gnome-look.org be sure to look for GTK3 themes only | |
| [11:55] <rafaellaguna> Crux is still there for compatibility, but there's no reason to exist anymore if new apps cannot use it | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> and why all other applications under root didn't accept colors? | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> all are GTK? | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> all are GTK3? | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> for example | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> grub customizer | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> gufw | |
| [11:56] <rafaellaguna> maybe because the user colors are meant to be used only for that user | |
| [11:56] <suncokret> i will try with other theme | |
| [11:56] <rafaellaguna> yes, every app started as root (even using "gksudo pcmanfm" will become root) | |
| [11:57] <suncokret> and see will this work | |
| [11:57] <rafaellaguna> yes, try, there're plenty nice GTK3 theems out there. of course I recommend use Lubuntu, maybe because I did it :D | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> you mean | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> lubuntu default theme? | |
| [11:58] <rafaellaguna> yup | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> some themes don't alow to change custom colors | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> i hope that most of GTK3 themes aloww that | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> allow | |
| [11:58] <suncokret> :) | |
| [11:59] <suncokret> i am not in lubuntu now | |
| [11:59] <suncokret> and i have installed 13.04 | |
| [12:00] <rafaellaguna> if you want to keep it updated (GTK3 and icons too) use the instructions provided here: http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/p/artwork.html | |
| [12:00] <suncokret> i have to return position of lubuntu 14.04 | |
| [12:00] <suncokret> so | |
| [12:00] <rafaellaguna> it doesn't matter | |
| [12:00] <suncokret> can you try to use some gtk3 theme | |
| [12:00] <ikonia> is the lubuntu PPC port maintained by the core/same team as the x86 version or sperate people | |
| [12:00] <rafaellaguna> and remember, colorization isn't a theme feature, it's a desktop feature, Ubuntu does not colorize, Lubuntu does | |
| [12:00] <suncokret> and change background color in theme | |
| [12:01] <suncokret> and then try to run synaptic | |
| [12:01] <suncokret> can you try that now | |
| [12:01] <suncokret> use some gtk3 theme | |
| [12:01] <rafaellaguna> yes :) | |
| [12:01] <rafaellaguna> I'm using Lubuntu default theme now in MATE, and Synaptic uses it | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> you have MATE on Lubuntu? | |
| [12:02] <rafaellaguna> confirmed | |
| [12:02] <rafaellaguna> yes, I'm testing it, I have lots of desktops :D | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> i was tried too | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> xfce | |
| [12:02] <rafaellaguna> openbox, windowmaker, xfce, lxqt, etc. | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> cinnamon, it is very slow | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> and | |
| [12:02] <rafaellaguna> I need them to test my themes | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> can you change to LXDE | |
| [12:02] <rafaellaguna> cinnamon and gnome3 are really slow on old computers | |
| [12:02] <suncokret> and then try | |
| [12:03] <suncokret> to run synaptic | |
| [12:03] <suncokret> because | |
| [12:03] <suncokret> i was instal xfce on lubuntu 13.04 | |
| [12:03] <suncokret> and synaptic didn't acept selected themes | |
| [12:03] <suncokret> and in LXDE it accept | |
| [12:03] <rafaellaguna> trust me, install lubuntu-artwork package and it will work on root apps too | |
| [12:04] <rafaellaguna> because it's installed in /usr/share/themes | |
| [12:04] <suncokret> can i find that in synaptic? | |
| [12:04] <rafaellaguna> yes | |
| [12:04] <suncokret> i will try | |
| [12:04] <rafaellaguna> lubuntu-artwork | |
| [12:05] <suncokret> and | |
| [12:05] <suncokret> is there something similar | |
| [12:05] <suncokret> for xfce? | |
| [12:05] <suncokret> in synaptic? | |
| [12:05] <rafaellaguna> xubuntu has shimmer-themes, gtk3 too | |
| [12:06] <suncokret> i will try | |
| [12:06] <rafaellaguna> ok, enjoy! | |
| [12:07] <suncokret> thank you | |
| [12:07] <rafaellaguna> you're welcome ;) | |
| [12:07] <suncokret> i'll be back to tell you results | |
| [12:07] <rafaellaguna> fine, tell me | |
| [12:07] <suncokret> i have just one partition for linux | |
| [12:07] <suncokret> and i have dual boot with xp | |
| [12:08] <rafaellaguna> don't you have a partition for your home? | |
| [12:08] <suncokret> and i use clonezilla, or norton ghost | |
| [12:08] <rafaellaguna> gparted works better and doesn't erase data | |
| [12:08] <suncokret> for backup position of instaled and configured system | |
| [12:08] <suncokret> i use it for backup | |
| [12:08] <suncokret> partition to image | |
| [12:08] <suncokret> :) | |
| [12:09] <suncokret> no, i home is on \ | |
| [12:09] <rafaellaguna> I have en external disc for that | |
| [12:09] <rafaellaguna> for backups I mean | |
| [12:09] <suncokret> no, home is on \ | |
| [12:09] <rafaellaguna> it's safer to have a separate home partition, if you need rto reinstall and format Linux | |
| [12:09] <suncokret> i know | |
| [12:10] <suncokret> but i copied some directories from home .config | |
| [12:10] <suncokret> with configurations from programs | |
| [12:10] <suncokret> :) | |
| [12:10] <suncokret> so i have that | |
| [12:10] <rafaellaguna> too much work :D | |
| [12:10] <suncokret> no | |
| [12:11] <suncokret> i don't use much programs | |
| [12:11] <rafaellaguna> I just clone my partition to the USB disc | |
| [12:15] <suncokret> i have now backup images from Lubuntu 13.04 and 14.04 | |
| [12:15] <suncokret> i save it on other partition | |
| [12:15] <rafaellaguna> so you can install 14.04 on top :) | |
| [12:16] <suncokret> now i have on linux partition 13.04 | |
| [12:16] <suncokret> and i can delete it | |
| [12:17] <rafaellaguna> right | |
| [12:17] <suncokret> and change to 14.04 | |
| [12:17] <suncokret> for about 3 minutes | |
| [12:17] <suncokret> :) | |
| [12:17] <rafaellaguna> I recommend you 14.04, really, it's an improved system | |
| [12:19] <suncokret> if i solve this with colors i will use 14.04 | |
| [12:20] <rafaellaguna> I'm not sure about colors, but it's not so important to colorize root apps, but they must use your theme, even in standard colour mode | |
| [12:20] <rafaellaguna> another solution is changing the root theme, using "gksudo lxappearance" | |
| [12:20] <suncokret> no | |
| [12:20] <rafaellaguna> then you can colorize it too | |
| [12:20] <suncokret> i tried that | |
| [12:20] <suncokret> and when you type | |
| [12:20] <suncokret> "gksudo lxappearance" | |
| [12:20] <suncokret> system block | |
| [12:21] <suncokret> and you can only restart it | |
| [12:21] <suncokret> with restart taster | |
| [12:21] <suncokret> :) | |
| [12:21] <suncokret> that is bug | |
| [12:21] <rafaellaguna> not for me, I'm testing right now | |
| [12:21] <rafaellaguna> it works fine | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> i was try that on LXDE on lubuntu 14.04 | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> and system was blocked | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> :) | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> then | |
| [12:22] <rafaellaguna> O_o | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> i was try | |
| [12:22] <suncokret> to login in openbox | |
| [12:23] <suncokret> and then i use "gksudo lxappearance" | |
| [12:23] <suncokret> and i change colors | |
| [12:23] <suncokret> but synaptic didn't accept them | |
| [12:23] <suncokret> . | |
| [12:23] <koell> is there an alternative gtk2/openbox theme for lubuntu? i need to see something differen :D | |
| [12:23] <rafaellaguna> www.gnome-look.org :) | |
| [12:23] <rafaellaguna> gtk2? what for? | |
| [12:23] <koell> they dont look that good like the default one =( | |
| [12:24] <koell> i dont know if i can take them seriously xD | |
| [12:24] <rafaellaguna> Lubuntu theme is not "serious"? | |
| [12:24] <koell> lubuntu ones itself is SERIOUS but not those on gnome look | |
| [12:25] <rafaellaguna> try zukitwo, shimmer-themes or elementary, they're nice theme | |
| [12:25] <koell> okey thanks | |
| [12:25] <rafaellaguna> you're welcome | |
| [12:26] <koell> but it is hard to find an overall good looking theme with icons and all that stuff xD | |
| [12:26] <suncokret> i go to try... i'll be back | |
| [12:26] <suncokret> thank you for help | |
| [12:27] <rafaellaguna> my pleasure :) | |
| [12:27] <koell> hey phillw :) | |
| [12:27] <koell> i just cant find one that is nearly as good as lubuntu-default :D | |
| [12:27] <koell> i may just adjust the colors :D | |
| [12:28] <rafaellaguna> thanks :) | |
| [12:28] <koell> rafaellaguna: O_o? | |
| [12:29] <rafaellaguna> I made Lubuntu theme :D | |
| [12:29] <koell> ohhhh yeah!!! \o/ | |
| [12:29] <koell> i like the one really | |
| [12:29] <rafaellaguna> that's why I thank you :D | |
| [12:29] <koell> but what i most like is, it looks good all together, colors, icons, theme etc | |
| [12:29] <rafaellaguna> it's being accepted very well | |
| [12:30] <rafaellaguna> yes, I tried to make eye pleasant and homogeneous, nothing disturbing | |
| [12:30] <koell> i like the new white background since 14.04 | |
| [12:30] <koell> i guess it was gray before? | |
| [12:30] <rafaellaguna> yes, it matches new Ubuntu themes, but I think it suits better with our colours | |
| [12:30] <koell> i dont like ubuntu thems :D | |
| [12:31] <rafaellaguna> even better with a shadow under the windows, using compton | |
| [12:31] <rafaellaguna> I do, but I like this better | |
| [12:32] <koell> lubuntu theme look really good with i3wm | |
| [12:32] <rafaellaguna> really? I didn't tested that DE | |
| [12:32] <koell> do you know how to change the background color of pcmanfm sidebar? | |
| [12:32] <rafaellaguna> to-do note ;) | |
| [12:33] <rafaellaguna> you can't, it's in the code of the theme. only changing the theme | |
| [12:33] <koell> oh | |
| [12:33] <rafaellaguna> or if you're brave enough you can edit the theme file ;) | |
| [12:33] <koell> i thought i can tweak that | |
| [12:33] <koell> it is in the gtk2 theme file? | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> yes, in pcmanfm.rc | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> nope, sorry, in gtkrc | |
| [12:34] <koell> haha | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> gtk_color_scheme = "sidepane_color:#dae0e6" | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> gtk_color_scheme = "sidebar_color:#dae0e6" | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> both | |
| [12:34] <koell> i tried the default lxde/openbox themes. they look... weird | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> first lines | |
| [12:34] <rafaellaguna> yeah, it looks... old | |
| [12:35] <koell> where do i find that gtkrc? | |
| [12:35] <rafaellaguna> in gtk2 | |
| [12:36] <rafaellaguna> I recommend you to use gcolor2 to generate a nice colour | |
| [12:36] <koell> great :) do you know where to find some other icons? really i do like lubuntu default look, but i have to see something different sometimes :D | |
| [12:36] <rafaellaguna> in www.gnome-look.org too | |
| [12:37] <koell> im a lubuntu user for almost 4 years now \o/ | |
| [12:37] <rafaellaguna> wow, thanks! I love to hear that :D | |
| [12:37] <koell> do you design the LXQT thing as well? | |
| [12:37] <rafaellaguna> yes, I'm on it | |
| [12:38] <koell> i dont like to switch =) | |
| [12:38] <rafaellaguna> yes, I'm comfortable too, but change is needed, it's the future :) | |
| [12:38] <koell> it looks not that simple for me imho :D | |
| [12:39] <rafaellaguna> don't worry, I'll make it so Lubuntu like you won't notice any difference :) | |
| [12:39] <koell> hahahah :D | |
| [12:40] <koell> i just take a look on the new kde5. i think it still llooks stupid with that flat design + the shadow. hahahaha | |
| [12:40] <rafaellaguna> yes, too flat, I know it's "trendy", but people get tired of that in a few hours, that's why I hate iOS andd the new Android, and installed MIUI instead | |
| [12:41] <rafaellaguna> in my phone, I mean | |
| [12:41] <koell> im nothing against flat, but they didnt decide between flat and sceumorphsmsmms xd | |
| [12:42] <koell> but hey, they do their work in freetime, i appreciate that :) | |
| [12:42] <rafaellaguna> the brain cannot "read" graphics in flat design after a few hours, we all designers know that | |
| [12:42] <koell> really? | |
| [12:42] <koell> maybe thats where long shadow design came in :D | |
| [12:43] <rafaellaguna> yup, brain is lazy :D it wants well defined areas to look, and so flat colours are confusing | |
| [12:45] <koell> rafaellaguna: so i can only use gtk2 themes in lubuntu right? | |
| [12:45] <rafaellaguna> noooo, Lubuntu default theme is gtk3 (and gtk2 for old apps) | |
| [12:46] <koell> oh | |
| [12:47] <rafaellaguna> I have to go now | |
| [12:47] <rafaellaguna> see you, guys :D | |
| [12:47] <koell> rafaellaguna: come back! | |
| [12:47] <koell> :3 | |
| [12:48] <rafaellaguna> I will, glad to speak with you ^^ | |
| [12:48] <rafaellaguna> bye! | |
| [12:54] <fares> hi | |
| [12:56] <fares> i use lubuntu and i want to use when start lubuntu between command line and gui how? | |
| [12:59] <fares> ? | |
| [13:05] <fares> ? | |
| [13:11] <koell> fares: you need to create a new session folder in ~/.config/lxsession | |
| [13:12] <koell> just copy from the existing ones | |
| [13:12] <koell> i do it the same for i3wm and on autostart i kill all what i dont need therefore :) | |
| [13:13] <fares> koell : thank you for answer i will try it | |
| [13:13] <koell> :D | |
| [14:15] <phillw> koell: he will be back this evening (UTC time). | |
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| [21:56] <rafaellaguna> http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f28/Galliriko/tumbleweed.gif | |
| [22:00] <rena_> rafaellaguna: lol | |
| [22:01] <rafaellaguna> :D | |