| [05:06] <pitti> Bonjour | |
| [07:01] <seb128> good morning desktopers! | |
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| [07:04] <didrocks> hey seb128! | |
| [07:10] <seb128> didrocks, lut ;-) | |
| [08:03] <Laney> hey ho | |
| [08:04] <seb128> Laney, hohey | |
| [08:04] <seb128> wie gehts? | |
| [08:04] <Laney> pretty good thanks | |
| [08:04] <Laney> last night I played Papers Please then fell asleep during the football ;-) | |
| [08:05] <seb128> what a boring game | |
| [08:05] <Laney> found out the result this morning though | |
| [08:05] <seb128> neither team wanted to risk playing and taking a goal | |
| [08:05] <didrocks> Papers Please isn't a boring game :) | |
| [08:05] <Laney> yeah that's what happens I guess | |
| [08:05] <Laney> you just tighten up because the stakes are high | |
| [08:05] <seb128> Germany didn't | |
| [08:05] <Laney> didrocks: it kind of is in a way, but that's also the point | |
| [08:05] <seb128> they scorer 7-1 | |
| [08:06] <seb128> scored | |
| [08:06] <Laney> I mean that I can understand why a game might be like that | |
| [08:06] <didrocks> Laney: training for the China trip? :) | |
| [08:06] <Laney> even if I don't like games decided on penalties | |
| [08:06] <seb128> right, same here | |
| [08:07] <Laney> didrocks: I always take the bribes ;-) | |
| [08:07] <didrocks> ahah | |
| [08:07] <Laney> or let people in if they have a good story | |
| [08:07] * Laney is the best guard | |
| [08:32] <Laney> hm | |
| [08:33] <Laney> what's happened to ubuntu-bug? | |
| [08:33] <Laney> it's trying to call "whoopsie-upload-all" now, whatever that is | |
| [08:34] <Laney> aha https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1339663 | |
| [08:34] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1339663 in apport (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-bug fails with "whoopsie-upload-all: error: unrecognized arguments" when /var/lib/apport/autoreport exists" [Undecided,New] | |
| [08:34] <pitti> Laney: workaround: use apport-cli | |
| [08:34] <pitti> I'll fix it ASAP, but I really need to finish that umockdev thing that I promised the Mir guys | |
| [08:35] <Laney> which is 1336685 | |
| [08:35] * Laney dupes | |
| [08:35] <Laney> pitti: okay, thanks! | |
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| [09:18] <darkxst> Hey Laney, pitti, seb128 , didrocks | |
| [09:18] <didrocks> hey darkxst! | |
| [09:18] <seb128> hey darkxst | |
| [09:19] <darkxst> very wet down under! | |
| [09:19] <Laney> yo | |
| [09:21] <pitti> hey darkxst | |
| [09:22] <pitti> bonjour seb128 | |
| [09:22] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va ? | |
| [09:23] <pitti> seb128: ça va bien ! I've been debugging an umockdev regression with latest X.org synaptics driver for hours, and finally found the reason | |
| [09:23] <pitti> seb128: did you see last night's game? | |
| [09:23] <pitti> I didn't, and after reading the outcome this morning I'm glad that I didn't | |
| [09:24] <darkxst> so what is happening with gnome-desktop then? I can't reproduce your races (Laney) | |
| [09:24] <Laney> was hoping Robert would reply, no news since my email | |
| [09:25] <darkxst> Laney, ok | |
| [09:26] <darkxst> we have a similar bug on trusty but pretty sure that is due to mismatch between gnome-shell using displayconfig and g-s-d xrandr using direct xrandr calls | |
| [09:27] <Laney> can you think how I can debug early start of the displayconfig that gets bus activated? | |
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| [09:27] <Laney> the problem is any subsequent launches make the problem get fixed | |
| [09:27] <Laney> so I really need to get inside the first one | |
| [09:28] <darkxst> Laney, I tend to drop in wrapper scripts in place of the real binary | |
| [09:28] <Laney> but I'll need it to start an interactive process (gdb) | |
| [09:30] <darkxst> I did manage to do that once | |
| [09:32] <Laney> maybe I can upstart launch a terminal which runs gdb and sets the breakpoints and so on ... | |
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| [09:48] <seb128> pitti, sorry, was otp for visa stuff ... yeah, I saw the game, most boring game ever | |
| [09:48] <seb128> none of the team dared playing | |
| [09:48] <pitti> seb128: yeah, I read the summaries this morning | |
| [09:48] <seb128> they just turned round with the ball in the middle waiting | |
| [09:48] <pitti> afraid to win.. | |
| [09:48] <seb128> for the whole match | |
| [10:11] <darkxst> Laney, I have in the past launched gdb in an xterm via wrapper script, however not sure if you can set a breakpoint from commandline, I probably used g_breakpoint in the code) | |
| [10:11] <Laney> you can give it a script to run | |
| [10:12] <darkxst> Laney, oh '-iex' | |
| [10:26] <didrocks> Fatal Python error: PyImport_GetModuleDict: no module dictionary! | |
| [10:26] <didrocks> hum… | |
| [10:26] <didrocks> no info of where this happened | |
| [10:26] <didrocks> and core dump | |
| [10:28] <seb128> gdb! | |
| [10:29] <darkxst> didrocks, I am going to say, welcome to the horrendous world of python bindings ;) | |
| [10:29] <didrocks> heh | |
| [10:29] <didrocks> I'm sure it remembers good story to mvo as well | |
| [10:30] <darkxst> seb128, pybt is at best pot luck | |
| [10:31] <darkxst> I do a fair bit of my PhD work in a python wrapper around a c++ library | |
| [10:32] <darkxst> it is impossible to find the underlying bugs (in the library) via any combination of python, gdb and what not | |
| [10:33] <Laney> I had similar with python-apt a little while ago | |
| [10:34] <Laney> all of the marshalling makes it a nightmare | |
| [10:34] <Laney> I did manage to use faulthandler to get a quite good backtrace though | |
| [10:39] <darkxst> Laney, maybe, but it seems a lot quicker to just write test cases in c++ and gdb that | |
| [10:41] <Laney> depends where the bug is | |
| [10:42] <darkxst> Laney, right, in our case the python stuff is just bindings for c++ code, so bugs are 99% in the c++ code | |
| [10:45] <darkxst> its all pretty crap though, a lot of bugs are just python GC'ing objects etc | |
| [10:48] <darkxst> I would happily send python to the furnaces, but I have well thousands of lines of code here ;( | |
| [10:50] <Laney> shoulda used haskell :-) | |
| [10:51] <darkxst> Laney, I didnt write the libraries, and if I did they wouldn't have been rubbush c++ | |
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| [11:12] * didrocks encounters again a python bug… http://bugs.python.org/issue21044 | |
| [11:12] <ogra_> blame barry | |
| [11:12] <didrocks> for everything! | |
| [11:12] <ogra_> :) | |
| [11:14] <didrocks> I wonder why issue only shows up when the decompression is threaded though | |
| [11:15] <davmor2> didrocks: no for every and anything you blame popey for python specifics you blame barry and for stuff breaking you blame ogra_ :D | |
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| [11:31] <didrocks> ok, workarounded this bug | |
| [11:31] <didrocks> will then poke barry | |
| [11:32] <didrocks> time for a late run | |
| [11:32] <didrocks> then, once back, will look at the tracker MIR (finally) | |
| [11:37] <darkxst> didrocks, yay! | |
| [11:48] <pitti> configure: error: You must have one of the following versions of lcov: 1.6 1.7 1.8 1.9 1.10 (found: 1.11). | |
| [11:48] <pitti> hm, seems our gnome-common is too old for utopic's lcov version | |
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| [11:49] <pitti> ah, not even fixed upstream yet | |
| [11:50] * pitti adds to his large pile of TODO | |
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| [12:22] <marga> I don't understand this policy of asking people that are affected by exactly the same bug to file new reports | |
| [12:22] <marga> eg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1221995 | |
| [12:22] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1221995 in linux (Ubuntu) "0a12:0001 Bluetooth Dongle (Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd) doesnt work on ubuntu 13.10" [Medium,Incomplete] | |
| [12:23] <marga> The original bug already included all the info. A bunch of us said "We have the same issue", then we were asked to file new reports (what for?!). | |
| [12:23] <marga> In the new report filed, it was asked "When did this start happening?" which was already answered in the original report. | |
| [12:24] <marga> Then, someone else said, "I have this issue too", and they were asked to file yet another bug report. | |
| [12:25] <marga> What's the point of all this duplicates? Spreading the information about one problem in separate bugs only makes tracking the bug harder. | |
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| [13:37] <GunnarHj> Hi Laney! | |
| [13:42] <czajkowski> Folks have you seen the Call for participation: main tracks and developer rooms at FOSDEM is now open https://lists.fosdem.org/pipermail/fosdem/2014-July/002010.html | |
| [13:42] <czajkowski> just in case folks want to submit | |
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| [15:36] <didrocks> \o/ all reshaping and reformating of udtc done, phew! | |
| [15:36] <didrocks> with adding some more tests along the road :) | |
| [15:39] <didrocks> czajkowski: I'm one of the organizer of the desktop room FYI, not sure still if we'll have an Unity talk this time | |
| [15:40] <czajkowski> didrocks: ah you already got told you got the room ? | |
| [15:41] <didrocks> czajkowski: not yet (it's in october), but the request is done. It would be surprising to not have a room for the desktop environments though ;) | |
| [15:41] <didrocks> probably just one day, like last year | |
| [15:47] <czajkowski> nods | |
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| [16:02] <Laney> wee, webkit built on amd64/arm64/ppc64el | |
| [16:02] <didrocks> at the first upload? | |
| [16:02] <Laney> only one tiny porting patch for ppc64el over Debian now, they took the arm64 stuff | |
| [16:02] <Laney> on porter machines | |
| [16:02] <didrocks> ah ok ;) | |
| [16:03] <Laney> but still, at the first try :P | |
| [16:03] <didrocks> hehe | |
| [16:03] <didrocks> ok, I give you this half achievement point :) | |
| [16:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: Re bug 1314402: You may want to replace the package in the NEW queue with the latest PPA version. Or I can change it afterwards if the package eventually makes it to the archive. Your call. :) | |
| [16:16] <ubot5> bug 1314402 in Ubuntu "Please upload skype-translation to the archive" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314402 | |
| [16:16] <Laney> GunnarHj: what's different? | |
| [16:16] <GunnarHj> Laney: Please see the last comment on the bug report. | |
| [16:16] <Laney> aw man | |
| [16:16] * didrocks waves good evening, enough for today! | |
| [16:17] <Laney> I have to move my hand aaaaaalllllll the way to the trackpad :P | |
| [16:17] <Laney> GunnarHj: Okay, I see, I'll check it out soon | |
| [16:18] <Laney> Don't think it's super important to supersede the existing one ASAP | |
| [16:18] <GunnarHj> Laney: Thanks! | |
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