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[00:20] * thumper off to visit the vet, bbl |
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[01:08] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/environmentserver/authentication) % vim authentication.go |
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[01:08] <davecheney> lucky(~/src/github.com/juju/juju/environmentserver/authentication) % |
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[01:08] <davecheney> why does this new package have ZERO tests ?!? |
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[01:08] <davecheney> why is there a whole package for one file |
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[01:08] <davecheney> and two types !?! |
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[01:09] <davecheney> no, not two type |
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[01:09] <davecheney> two functions |
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[01:09] <rick_h__> davecheney: because it's waiting for you to write the rest of it? |
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[01:09] <rick_h__> :) |
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[01:11] <davecheney> rick_h__: i didn't add that |
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[01:12] <davecheney> me is frustrated with the proliferation of tiny packages |
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[01:12] <davecheney> ffs people, this isn't java |
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[01:52] <davecheney> menn0: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/284 |
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[01:52] <davecheney> small PR for your lunchtime perusal |
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[01:59] <menn0> davecheney: will look right after this meeting (if it happens) |
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[02:06] <davecheney> oh shit |
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[02:06] <davecheney> i was going to take a screenshot of the hangout screen that showed 12:05 |
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[02:06] <davecheney> but the it ticked over to 12:06 |
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[02:06] <davecheney> and it didn't hav the ring to it |
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[02:07] <davecheney> info.SetAPICredentials(configstore.APICredentials{ |
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[02:07] <davecheney> User: apiInfo.Tag.Id(), |
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[02:07] <davecheney> Password: apiInfo.Password, |
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[02:07] <davecheney> }) |
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[02:07] <davecheney> ohh, |
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[02:07] <davecheney> here is an intersting one |
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[02:07] <davecheney> we have a Tag, so "user-dave" |
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[02:07] <davecheney> but the api credentials being written down will be "dave" |
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[02:07] <davecheney> so that User field cannot be used to turn back into a tag |
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[02:07] <thumper> yeah, that is all fucked up |
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[02:07] <thumper> anyway... |
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[02:07] <thumper> I've touched that I think |
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[02:08] <davecheney> where do those credntials go ? |
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[02:08] <thumper> those are stored in the .jenv file |
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[02:08] <davecheney> if the thing at the other end is doing |
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[02:08] <davecheney> names.ParseUserTag |
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[02:08] <davecheney> that is ok |
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[02:08] <thumper> it isn't |
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[02:08] <davecheney> if it's doing |
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[02:08] <davecheney> names.ParseTag |
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[02:08] <davecheney> then it's wrong |
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[02:09] <davecheney> ok, comment added anyway, i'll come back to it after I've fixed the compile errors |
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[02:09] <thumper> I think it is doing neither |
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[02:11] <davecheney> thumper: |
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[02:11] <davecheney> var environUUID string |
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[02:11] <davecheney> if apiInfo.EnvironTag != nil { |
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[02:11] <davecheney> tag, err := names.ParseEnvironTag(apiInfo.Tag) |
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[02:11] <davecheney> if err != nil { |
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[02:11] <davecheney> return err |
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[02:11] <davecheney> } |
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[02:11] <davecheney> environUUID = tag.Id() |
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[02:11] <davecheney> } |
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[02:12] <thumper> yep |
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[02:12] <davecheney> so, if the environtag _is_ set, then ignore it and use the id of the apiInfo.Tag ... |
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[02:12] <davecheney> o_O |
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[02:13] <thumper> ah wat? |
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[02:13] <thumper> I misread the code |
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[02:13] <thumper> that is all sorts of fucked up |
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[02:13] <thumper> pretty sure it should be using EnvironTag ... |
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[02:15] <davecheney> yup |
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[02:19] <davecheney> thumper: do you want me to land a quick branch to fix this before doing some more wholescale changes ? |
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[02:19] <thumper> yeah, I think that would be good |
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[02:20] <davecheney> ok, two secs |
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[02:20] <thumper> davecheney: if it makes you feel better, I'm down in the trenches of weird/shitty code too |
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[02:22] <davecheney> \o/ |
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[02:24] <davecheney> thumper: menn0 https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/285 |
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[02:25] <thumper> davecheney: there are no tests? |
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[02:25] <davecheney> don't appear to be |
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[02:25] <thumper> how silly of me... a test would have shown it wasn't working |
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[02:25] <davecheney> didn't run the whole test suite |
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[02:25] <davecheney> just go test ./juju/api |
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[02:25] <thumper> davecheney: is there a quick test that could be written around that? |
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[02:25] <davecheney> thumper: no idea |
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[02:26] <davecheney> haven't looked at the tests in that code |
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[02:26] <thumper> can you take a look? |
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[02:36] <davecheney> hmm |
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[02:36] <davecheney> so |
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[02:36] <davecheney> none of our test fixtures have an environment-uuid: field |
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[02:39] <davecheney> ok, this is bigger than a quick branch |
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[02:39] <davecheney> logging a bug |
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[02:42] * thumper is fighting side-effects in code being tested elsewhere |
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[02:42] <davecheney> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1339967 |
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[02:42] <_mup_> Bug #1339967: juju: cacheAPIInfo users the wrong tag when storing the environ UUID <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1339967> |
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[02:42] <davecheney> its on the list |
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[02:42] <davecheney> i don't want to get distracted |
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[02:55] <thumper> davecheney: can play.golang.org do github imports? |
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[02:57] <waigani_> thumper: failed for me, maybe it does certain ones?? |
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[02:57] <davecheney> thumper: no |
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[02:57] <thumper> failed for me too... |
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[02:57] <thumper> ok that is why |
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[02:58] <waigani_> func RunConfigureScript(script string, params ConfigureParams) error { |
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[02:58] <waigani_> logger.Debugf("Running script on %s: %s", params.Host, script) |
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[02:58] <waigani_> client := params.Client |
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[02:58] <waigani_> if client == nil { |
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[02:58] <waigani_> client = ssh.DefaultClient |
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[02:58] <waigani_> } |
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[02:58] <waigani_> cmd := ssh.Command(params.Host, []string{"sudo", "/bin/bash"}, nil) |
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[02:58] <waigani_> cmd.Stdin = strings.NewReader(script) |
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[02:58] <waigani_> cmd.Stderr = params.ProgressWriter |
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[02:58] <waigani_> return cmd.Run() |
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[02:58] <waigani_> } |
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[02:58] <waigani_> client is not being used at all ?!?! |
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[02:59] <davecheney> looks that way |
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[03:00] <waigani_> hmph - I'll leave a question for the reviewer |
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[03:00] <davecheney> does that code even compile ? |
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[03:00] <waigani_> cloudinit/sshinit/configure.go:52 |
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[03:01] <waigani_> yep, I have not touched it |
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[03:01] <waigani_> davecheney: ^ |
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[03:01] <davecheney> it's cos of the check |
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[03:01] <davecheney> the if on line 51 |
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[03:02] <waigani_> yep |
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[03:02] <davecheney> http://play.golang.org/p/m4Z-kfxN3w |
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[03:02] <davecheney> oh well |
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[03:02] <thumper> why oh why are so many of our tests so shit? |
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[03:03] <davecheney> thumper: you know that 383,000 lines of code ? |
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[03:03] <davecheney> that's not a number i'm particularly proud of |
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[03:03] * thumper smirks |
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[03:05] <waigani_> I'm assuming they meant client.Command(... not ssh.Command |
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[03:06] <davecheney> waigani_: yes |
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[03:06] <davecheney> log a bug |
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[03:07] <waigani_> davecheney: I actually need to fix it for my branch - need to manually provision with a given key |
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[03:08] <waigani_> davecheney: should I still associate a bug with it and address it in my PR? |
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[03:15] <davecheney> waigani_: if you're not going to fix it staight away |
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[03:15] <davecheney> log a bug |
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[03:15] <davecheney> so when you are on leave next week |
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[03:15] <davecheney> it doesn't get lost |
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[03:35] <menn0> woot. I think I've reviewed everything that needs reviewing. |
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[03:36] <menn0> I'll keep an eye on the PR queue but ping me if there's anything that needs urgent review. |
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[03:36] <thumper> omg... |
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[03:36] <thumper> I found a test that tests something that can never happen... |
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[03:36] <thumper> effectively it goes like this: |
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[03:36] <thumper> look for the api end points |
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[03:36] <thumper> make sure there are no addresses |
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[03:36] <thumper> if there are no addresses, connect to the api to find the addresses |
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[03:36] <thumper> return addresses |
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[03:37] <thumper> yay |
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[03:37] * thumper waves his hand |
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[03:37] <thumper> magic |
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[03:37] <thumper> juju magic |
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[03:41] * thumper sighs |
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[03:41] <menn0> thumper: the test does that and passes? |
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[03:42] <thumper> menn0: well it mocks out the actual connection |
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[03:42] <thumper> to return values |
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[03:43] <menn0> right. so it's an unnecessary test. |
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[03:45] <thumper> yup |
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[03:46] <thumper> here is a good error message: logger.Warningf("cannot failed to cache API addresses: %v", localerr) |
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[03:46] <thumper> double negative, so it worked, right? |
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[03:51] <menn0> 8-) |
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[03:56] <thumper> WT actual F? |
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[03:56] * thumper sighs |
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[03:56] * thumper holds in the rage and turns a little green |
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[03:57] <thumper> why, oh why would the environment uuid change on an api connection? |
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[03:57] <thumper> perhaps to save it? |
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[03:57] <thumper> when it wasn't before? |
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[03:57] <thumper> that is the only consideration I can think of |
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[03:59] <thumper> davecheney: if I have a function that is package private, but I also export the func in export_test.go using the BigName = smallName method |
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[03:59] <thumper> davecheney: but the function takes an arg that is an unexported interface |
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[03:59] <thumper> davecheney: is go going to complain? |
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[03:59] <thumper> or magically work? |
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[03:59] <thumper> as long as what I pass in matches? |
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[04:22] <thumper> hmm... unnecessary test is not entirely unnecessary |
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[04:22] <thumper> there are other assumptions built int |
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[04:22] <thumper> in |
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[04:42] <menn0> thumper: while working on the schema migrations doc I think I've found a bug in the current upgrade mechanics |
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[04:42] <thumper> oh? |
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[04:42] <menn0> thumper: line 817 cmd/jujud/machine.go |
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[04:43] <thumper> there |
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[04:43] <menn0> a variable holding an error is carefully created but is never used |
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[04:43] <menn0> and there's no tests that look for that error |
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[04:43] <menn0> so if upgrades fail we silently ignore the failure and everything keeps going as if the upgrade was successful |
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[04:44] <thumper> heh |
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[04:44] <thumper> oops |
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[04:44] <thumper> we should probably fix that |
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[04:45] <menn0> I think the last return in runUpgrades should be "return err" not "return nil" |
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[04:45] <thumper> surely there is a test... |
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[04:45] <thumper> this was wallyworld_, so there should be a test |
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[04:45] <menn0> I searched for "cannot perform upgrade" in the entire tree and it's only mentioned in that function |
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[04:47] <thumper> hmm |
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[04:47] <thumper> write a failing test :) |
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[04:47] <wallyworld_> thumper: menn0: it wasn't me |
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[04:47] <thumper> one where the step always fails |
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[04:47] <thumper> and check |
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[04:47] <wallyworld_> it was roger :-P |
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[04:47] <wallyworld_> look at annotate :-) |
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[04:47] <menn0> will do. I know this bit of the code quite well now. |
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[04:48] <thumper> also... should probably look at the upgrade error before the "failed to update agent version error" |
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[04:48] <wallyworld_> i suspect there hsould have been a baned return value |
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[04:48] <wallyworld_> named |
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[04:49] <menn0> wallyworld_: yep understood |
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[04:49] <wallyworld_> :-) |
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[04:49] <menn0> I think it might be clearer without a named return anyway |
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[04:51] <menn0> wallyworld_: what is currently the desired behaviour if a upgrade steps fail? it's 50/50 whether it's better to downgrade or pressing on with the new version depending on which upgrade steps have already run. |
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[04:51] <menn0> soon we will be able to rollback using the backup, but what do we expect right now? |
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[04:53] <wallyworld_> menn0: hmmm. we haven't really supported rollback till now. rollback is more than db, includes config also etc. we don't really handle upgrade errors very well. |
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[04:53] <wallyworld_> hard problem |
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[04:53] <menn0> wallyworld_: right and I'm trying to make that situation better. |
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[04:53] <menn0> wallyworld_: but given current limitations what do we do? |
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[04:53] <wallyworld_> error out and then the agent restarts |
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[04:53] <menn0> wallyworld_: or what /should/ we do is probably the better question |
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[04:54] <wallyworld_> try and recover |
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[04:54] * thumper is pulling gently on the end of a piece of string, but is just getting a big knot every time |
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[04:54] <wallyworld_> and restart the old agent |
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[04:55] <menn0> wallyworld_: ok. that seems about the best we can do. |
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[04:55] <wallyworld_> yeah |
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[04:55] <menn0> the old agent may not work because of changes made by upgrade steps for the next version but we can't do much better |
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[04:55] <wallyworld_> we can try and rollback the file changes |
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[04:55] <wallyworld_> but that may not work either |
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[04:55] <menn0> soon we will be recovering from the backup which has both the database and configuration files |
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[04:56] <wallyworld_> the thought was, if it fails, it's time to call juju support |
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[04:56] <menn0> got it |
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[04:56] <wallyworld_> great, look forward to that |
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[04:58] <menn0> wallyworld_: it was definitely rog's change... I just had a look and I can see exactly what happened. |
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[04:58] <wallyworld_> \o/ |
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[04:59] * wallyworld_ makes mistakes too, but sometimes needs to defend his honour :-) |
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[04:59] <wallyworld_> especially since thumper implied there should have been a test :-) |
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[04:59] <thumper> wallyworld_: that is because you always supply tests for your work |
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[04:59] <menn0> although the lack of pre-existing tests for that error condition probably didn't help when rog refactored that code... |
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[04:59] <wallyworld_> yes :-) |
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[04:59] <menn0> :-p |
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[05:00] <wallyworld_> well, i didn't write the original either |
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[05:00] <menn0> just teasing |
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[05:00] <wallyworld_> the jujud upgrade stuff is separate from the upgrade steps stuff |
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[05:00] <wallyworld_> :-P |
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[05:00] * menn0 rolls up his sleeves |
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[05:00] * wallyworld_ takes the bait |
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[05:00] <menn0> ;-) |
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[05:00] * wallyworld_ needs sleep, later |
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[05:40] <thumper> success... just one failing test to fix |
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[05:40] * thumper is done for now |
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[05:40] <thumper> meetings later |
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[05:40] <thumper> night all |
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[05:57] <ChrisW1> menn0: someone refactored untested code? tsk tsk |
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[05:58] <menn0> ChrisW1: indeed :) |
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[06:04] <davecheney> thumper: re that test, http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111119363/3792894-7922452111-tumbl.gif |
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[06:05] <davecheney> it won't complain, but you won't be able to construct a value to pass to that function |
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[06:05] <davecheney> however, if you have someone elses' value, that will work |
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[06:06] <davecheney> menn0: re named return, hold that thought |
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[06:06] <davecheney> it will be a good example for waigani |
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[06:07] <davecheney> menn0: chrisw1, http://dave.cheney.net/2013/11/14/more-simple-test-coverage-in-go-1-2 |
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[06:07] <davecheney> may be useful for figuring out which footguns are lacking their protective covers |
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[06:08] <menn0> davecheney: I'm not sure if this is the best sample for discussing named returns |
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[06:08] <davecheney> menn0: what was the bug you found before ? |
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[06:08] <menn0> the code is hairy |
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[06:09] <menn0> not really about named returns |
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[06:09] <davecheney> :/ |
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[06:09] <menn0> thumper or wallyworld were theorising that perhaps someone intended there to be named returns but there wasn't |
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[06:09] <menn0> at any rate, no named returns are being used |
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[06:10] <menn0> the bug is about an error not being returned |
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[06:10] <davecheney> ok |
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[06:10] <menn0> a line that says "return nil" when it should say "return err" (well actually it's more complex than that but that's the core of it) |
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[06:10] * davecheney moves on |
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[06:10] <davecheney> :~ |
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=== liam_ is now known as Guest5405 |
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[07:18] <menn0> frustrated email sent to juju-dev |
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[07:18] <menn0> I'm done for this week. |
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[07:18] <menn0> Back on Monday. |
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[08:09] <TheMue> morning |
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[08:23] <urulama> i've just filed bug 1340077 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1340077) ... didn't find similar one, but maybe it already exists |
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[08:23] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:23] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:24] <davecheney> 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 1340077 |
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[08:24] <davecheney> #1340077 |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <davecheney> i wonder if mup is dumb enough to fall for that |
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[08:25] <davecheney> #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 #1340077 |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <_mup_> Bug #1340077: if "default" is named to undefined env, the parsing fails <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340077> |
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[08:25] <davecheney> and the answer is, yes |
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[08:25] <urulama> QED ;) |
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[08:25] * davecheney waves to urulama |
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[08:25] <davecheney> welcome to canonical |
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[08:25] <urulama> thanks |
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[08:27] <urulama> oh, australia, good evening then |
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[08:28] <davecheney> o/ |
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[08:28] <davecheney> i'm representing for the southen himsphere tonight |
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[08:32] * TheMue waves as antipode |
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[09:03] <jam> urulama: welcome. So how does one intend to pronounce "urulama" ? My first instinct is to read it as "you're a llama", but the intent could be something different |
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[09:04] <urulama> jam: :D :D |
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[09:05] <urulama> jam: never thought about that ... it's an old nick, so old that i don't thing about it, but maybe it is time to change it |
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[09:06] <urulama> jam: "ooroo"+"llama" would sound as we read it |
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[09:06] <jam> urulama: strong l or a y or a j sound ? |
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[09:06] <urulama> strong L |
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[09:22] <TheMue> jam: urulama: maybe it’s the right time to have nicks in phonetics (thinking of international teams) |
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[09:22] <urulama> TheMue: or in asciiart :D |
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[09:24] <TheMue> urulama: ;) |
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[09:28] <TheMue> so, mine is ðə mjuː |
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[09:32] <urulama> it's probably a known bug that autocomplet for debug-hooks in terminal returns charm/1 as charm is on machine 1, but hooks are connected only when "juju debug-hooks charm/0" is executed? |
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[09:34] <urulama> on a amazon or manual env, not on local |
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[10:15] <dimitern> tasdomas`, I added some review comments to your ports PR |
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[10:38] <jam> urulama: I haven't heard of it, so feel free to report a bug about autocomplete, as the first unit of a service is always 0, it shouldn't depend what machine it is on. |
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[10:43] <TheMue> so, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/281 is back in for review |
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[10:45] <jam> TheMue: dimitern vladk|offline standup? |
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[10:53] <urulama> one more bug 1340133 |
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[10:53] <_mup_> Bug #1340133: debug-hooks don't work in manual env <juju-core:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1340133> |
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[11:02] <jam> urulama: whenever I read your name my first response is "nu-uh, *you're* a llama" :) |
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[11:02] <uru_> damn, taken |
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[11:03] <uru-urnotallama> jam: better? :D |
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[11:03] <TheMue> *rofl* |
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[11:04] <jam> uru-urnotallama: :) |
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[11:11] <jam> dimitern: so you're gone from tomorrow for 2 weeks/ |
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[11:11] <jam> ah, that's next week |
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[11:11] <dimitern> jam, yep, next week |
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[11:31] <tasdomas`> dimitern, thanks |
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[12:31] * dimitern needs to step out now, bbl |
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[12:44] <tasdomas> are pull requests for packages like github.com/juju/names managed by a landing bot or do I just merge them myself (having received an LGTM) |
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[12:44] <tasdomas> ? |
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[12:44] <perrito666> morning |
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[12:45] <TheMue> perrito666: morning |
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[12:45] <TheMue> perrito666: we’ll see on Sunday, ha? :D |
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[12:45] <perrito666> TheMue: I return home on sunday, I will most likely sleep trough the game |
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[12:46] <TheMue> perrito666: hey, you cannot do that, you’ll see how our team beats yours :P |
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[12:48] <perrito666> I care as much for football as I do for ... I think there is nothing I care that little about :p |
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[12:50] <TheMue> perrito666: hehe, in that case |
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[13:37] <bodie_> morning all |
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[13:39] <mgz> bodie_: hey |
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[13:41] <davecheney> mbruzek: hey |
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[13:41] <mbruzek> davecheney, hello |
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[13:41] <davecheney> mbruzek: did you see my update on taht issue |
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[13:42] <davecheney> do you have the dmesg from that system |
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[13:42] <mbruzek> yes I uploaded dmesg |
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[13:42] * davecheney checks email |
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[13:42] <davecheney> hmm, nup |
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[13:42] <davecheney> nothing |
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[13:43] <mbruzek> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gccgo-4.9/+bug/1304754/comments/35 |
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[13:44] <_mup_> Bug #1304754: gccgo has issues when page size is not 4kB <ppc64el> <trusty> <gcc:Fix Released> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu):Fix Released> <gccgo-4.9 (Ubuntu):Invalid> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu Trusty):Invalid> <gccgo-4.9 (Ubuntu Trusty):Fix Committed by doko> <gcc-4.9 (Ubuntu Utopic):Fix Released> <gccgo-4.9 (Ubuntu Utopic):Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304754> |
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[13:44] <mbruzek> davecheney, ^ |
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[13:45] <davecheney> mbruzek: it's empty |
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[13:45] <mbruzek> davecheney, Sorry take the comments/35 off |
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[13:46] <mbruzek> the bug was updated with my dmesg_output.txt I thought I would be clever by showing you on which comment, but I left no messages on file upload. |
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[13:46] <davecheney> mbruzek: thanks |
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[13:46] <davecheney> ok, so it's not the usual issue |
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[13:46] <davecheney> dmesg shows no issue |
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[13:58] <TheMue> wife bought strawberry cake, daughter made a tea - a very good working environment |
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[15:20] * perrito666 finds another race |
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[15:22] <wallyworld_> axw: if you want a break from mongo fun https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/288 |
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[15:26] <katco> AWS question: does anyone know if there's any documentation on what version of signature each region supports? |
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[15:28] <natefinch> katco: not sure what you mean version of signature |
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[15:29] <katco> yeah, sorry: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/general/latest/gr/signing_aws_api_requests.html |
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[15:29] <katco> they support v2, 3, and 4 |
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[15:29] <katco> and i'm trying to introduce support for 4; turns out it's important to know which region supports which |
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[15:42] <wallyworld_> sinzui: \o/ |
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[15:43] <natefinch> katco: man, that is a terrible name for ... well anything. |
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[15:43] <natefinch> wallyworld_: btw, A/C people still not here :/ Supposed to be here between 10 and noon, so the clock is ticking |
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[15:43] <katco> natefinch: mm? what's a terrible name? |
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[15:44] <wallyworld_> natefinch: np. we'll try not to eat *all* the kunch |
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[15:44] <wallyworld_> lunch |
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[15:44] <natefinch> katco: "SIgnature" |
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[15:44] <katco> natefinch: ah |
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[15:44] <katco> natefinch: context increase IQ by 100% ;) |
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[15:45] <perrito666> natefinch: so much for "they usually come here first" |
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[15:46] <natefinch> perrito666: Usually they end up coming early. I guess they found out I'm not actually supposed to be working from home today, so decided to come late |
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[15:46] <perrito666> natefinch: sounds possible |
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[15:46] <natefinch> There have been a couple times they have simply not shown up. But I called at 11 to make sure they hadn't just left me off the list this time. |
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[15:48] <sinzui> wallyworld_, the 1.20.1 final test run and the 1.20.2 first test run were the two best runs CI has seen in 6 weeks. In both cases every test passed the first try. The entire run was less than 2 hour each |
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[15:48] <wallyworld_> wow, awesome |
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[15:59] <jcw4> is there a juju / charm acolyte who might be able to help breze441 in #juju ? |
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[15:59] <jcw4> I tried to prime the pump a bit since his question was vague, but I think there's enough detail now that someone who knows juju/charms better may be able to help with? |
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[16:05] <natefinch> katco, axw: btw, I pinged niemeyer about moving goamz to github, since some Go people had been asking about which version they should use - launchpad's or the dozens of copies on github. |
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[16:14] <alexisb> sinzui, good stuff on 1.20.1, thanks for getting it out there! |
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[16:15] <sinzui> thank you alexisb |
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[16:32] <perrito666> natefinch: got ac? |
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[16:35] <axw> natefinch: thanks, I think that'd be a good idea. |
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[16:37] <katco> natefinch: +1, ty |
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[16:50] <natefinch> perrito666: they're here, but it's not fixed yet |
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[16:50] <perrito666> natefinch: well its something |
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[16:54] <natefinch> perrito666: yeah, but I fear the person they sent is not their most competent at diagnosing problems. They have like 3 really good technicians and a bunch of flunkies that are not that great |
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[17:04] * perrito666 wonders if we cannot fix that, there are like 8 of us here |
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[17:12] <voidspace> rogpeppe: ping |
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[17:12] <voidspace> rogpeppe: are you around? |
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[17:12] <rogpeppe> voidspace: hiya |
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[17:13] <rogpeppe> voidspace: that i am |
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[17:13] <voidspace> rogpeppe: hey Roger, hi |
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[17:13] <voidspace> I'm in Lexington |
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[17:13] <rogpeppe> voidspace: cool |
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[17:13] <voidspace> rogpeppe: I have a question about HA |
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[17:13] <rogpeppe> voidspace: fire away |
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[17:14] <voidspace> rogpeppe: should all writes go to mongo master - and does that mean that only the machine hosting the mongo primary should do writes, or do the other state servers connect remotely to the primary? |
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[17:14] <voidspace> or does it mean something else |
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[17:14] <voidspace> what I'm seeing, which surprised me, is that after "ensure-availability" the machine with JobManageEnviron is not the Primary mongo |
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[17:14] <rogpeppe> voidspace: if you connect to a mongo secondary, it will automatically make a connection to the primary and send writes there |
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[17:14] <voidspace> cool |
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[17:14] <voidspace> so we don't need to worry about that |
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[17:15] <rogpeppe> voidspace: after ensure-availability, there should be 3 machines with JobManageEnviron |
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[17:15] <voidspace> they should all have JobManageEnviron, ok |
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[17:15] <rogpeppe> voidspace: and the choice of primary is entirely up to mongo |
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[17:15] <voidspace> hmmm... my machine 1 only listed JobHostUnits in its agents.conf |
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[17:16] <voidspace> rogpeppe: I'm looking at the behaviour of HA when mongo dies but juju itself remains running |
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[17:16] <rogpeppe> voidspace: when a majority of replicas die? |
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[17:16] <voidspace> no, just when a single one dies |
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[17:16] <rogpeppe> voidspace: it *should* just carry on working |
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[17:17] <rogpeppe> voidspace: although there will be some churn |
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[17:17] <voidspace> right, but the now "effectively dead" machine is still listed as a valid apiserver |
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[17:17] <voidspace> when in fact it is screwed |
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[17:17] <rogpeppe> voidspace: api servers will restart, clients will also need to reconnect |
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[17:17] <voidspace> but things do still work |
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[17:17] <voidspace> I'm trying to determine what doesn't work and what we need to fix |
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[17:18] <voidspace> so yes, api servers will need to restart - but it doesn't look like they do |
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[17:18] <voidspace> but it's only a minor issue I think |
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[17:19] <voidspace> the replicaset configuration still lists the dead machine as in the replicaset |
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[17:20] <voidspace> (the mongo rs.conf() that is) |
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[17:23] <rogpeppe> voidspace: the dead machine will still remain in the replicaset until you run ensure-availability again |
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[17:23] <voidspace> right |
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[17:24] <voidspace> rogpeppe: when you run ensure-availability the first time, and mongo picks a master, will the singular workers stop running on machine-0 and start running on the master (assuming machine-0 is no longer the master)? |
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[17:24] <rogpeppe> voidspace: yes, they should do |
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[17:24] <voidspace> rogpeppe: ok, great |
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[17:26] <natefinch> well fuck, A/C guys say the $800 worth of refrigerant they put in the system is gone and we need a new system. Fantastic. |
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[17:26] <voidspace> natefinch: ouch :-/ |
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[17:26] <voidspace> :-( |
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[17:27] <natefinch> that was like 2 months ago they put that in, too. Put in some "leak stop" stuff too. Getting a second opinion in the morning, but... I think it's new A/C time... which means like $8,000 |
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[17:27] <natefinch> anyway, coming into the office |
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[17:27] <perrito666> natefinch: f*** shouldn't they give you some refund on that? I mean they added refrigerant when they shouldn't |
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[17:27] <wallyworld_> natefinch: and wwitzel3 ate all the lunch |
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[17:27] <natefinch> that's ok |
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[17:27] <natefinch> I had cake for lunch |
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[17:29] <perrito666> uh, can we have cake? |
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[17:30] <voidspace> rogpeppe: my machine-1 agents.conf only lists JobHostUnits under jobs, whereas as machine-0 (my current master) lists JobManageEnviron too |
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[17:30] <voidspace> *agent.conf (singular) |
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[17:30] <rogpeppe> voidspace: and machine 1 was created by ensure-availability? |
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[17:30] <voidspace> yep |
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[17:31] <voidspace> it also lists three api addresses when there are now only two state servers |
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[17:32] <voidspace> and machine-2 agent.conf - which *was* master - also only lists JobHostUnits |
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[17:32] <rogpeppe> voidspace: i don't believe that machine was created without JobManageEnviron |
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[17:33] <rogpeppe> voidspace: what's the output of juju status? |
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[17:34] <voidspace> rogpeppe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7776326/ |
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[17:35] <rogpeppe> voidspace: i see that all of machines 0, 1 and 2 are voting |
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[17:35] <rogpeppe> voidspace: that means that they're part of the intended replica set |
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[17:35] <voidspace> rogpeppe: but agent state of 2 is down |
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[17:35] <voidspace> I took down mongo first |
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[17:35] <voidspace> agent.conf on the other machines didn't change |
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[17:35] <voidspace> I took down jujud as well |
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[17:35] <rogpeppe> voidspace: sure, you can be down and still have a vote |
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[17:35] <voidspace> still no change (that I could see) |
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[17:36] <voidspace> but it is also still listed as a valid api server |
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[17:36] <voidspace> even though it is down |
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[17:36] <voidspace> but the master change worked fine |
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[17:37] <rogpeppe> voidspace: all those machines definitely have JobManageEnviron, BTW |
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[17:37] <voidspace> not listed in agent.conf they don't :-) |
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[17:37] <voidspace> but I believe you |
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[17:38] <voidspace> so it's a bit odd |
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[17:39] <rogpeppe> voidspace: for my proof, see cmd/juju/status.go:323 |
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[17:39] <rogpeppe> voidspace: it's odd that that's not in agent.conf though |
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[17:39] <rogpeppe> voidspace: that sounds like some kind of bug |
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[17:40] <voidspace> rogpeppe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7776354/ |
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[17:40] <voidspace> rogpeppe: machine 1 is the same |
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[17:40] <voidspace> machine-0 also lists JobManageEnviron |
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[17:41] <voidspace> rogpeppe: ok, so it's an oddity (probably a bug) but not significant |
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[17:41] <voidspace> rogpeppe: thanks |
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[17:41] <rogpeppe> voidspace: well, it may well be significant |
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[17:41] <voidspace> hah, ah |
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[17:41] <voidspace> ok |
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[17:47] <voidspace> if you take down the mongo on the master then the master does switch, but jujud carries on running on the "old master" |
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[17:50] <rogpeppe> voidspace: jujud will always continue running |
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[17:50] <rogpeppe> voidspace: it runs on every machine |
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[17:51] <voidspace> rogpeppe: what would you expect a juju that can't connect to mongo to do? |
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[17:51] <rogpeppe> voidspace: BTW, AFAICS the Jobs in the agent config isn't used at all |
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[17:51] <voidspace> rogpeppe: right |
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[17:51] <voidspace> good |
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[17:51] <voidspace> rogpeppe: I'm still wondering what writes it out and why it's wrong, but I can look for that |
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[17:51] <rogpeppe> voidspace: i'd expect a juju that can't connect to mongo to sit around trying to connect to mongo |
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[17:52] <voidspace> rogpeppe: hah, ok :-) |
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[17:55] <voidspace> rogpeppe: I think juju behaves fine when we kill mongo |
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[17:55] <rogpeppe> voidspace: good! |
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[17:55] <voidspace> it doesn't rewrite agent.conf in the way perrito666 and I thought it should |
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[17:55] <voidspace> but I don't think that's a problem |
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[17:55] <rogpeppe> voidspace: nice to know that something works :-) |
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[17:56] <voidspace> the machine log shows it stopping all the things it should I believe |
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[17:56] <voidspace> hah |
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[17:56] <voidspace> indeed :-) |
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[17:56] <voidspace> so I'm going to close that bug.... |
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[17:58] <rogpeppe> voidspace: ha, i've found the cause of the bad Jobs |
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[17:58] <rogpeppe> voidspace: i think |
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[17:58] <rogpeppe> voidspace: in environs.NewMachineConfig |
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[17:58] <perrito666> rogpeppe: I am pretty sure that I can fit an apple joke in there |
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[17:58] <rogpeppe> voidspace: the Jobs are always set to JobHostUnits |
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[17:58] <rogpeppe> perrito666: arf arf |
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[17:59] * rogpeppe actually doesn't laugh, because a reference to a joke is not the same as the joke itself |
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[17:59] <rogpeppe> :-) |
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[17:59] <voidspace> hah |
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[18:00] <perrito666> rogpeppe: fine *(rogpeppe: I am pretty sure that I can fit an apple joke in there) |
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[18:00] * rogpeppe is still waiting for a joke |
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[18:00] <voidspace> rogpeppe: so the machine actually has the ManageEnviron job, but we assume that a new machine only has host units (which was the case before HA) and so that's what we put in MachineConfig |
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[18:00] <rogpeppe> voidspace: yup |
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[18:00] <voidspace> rogpeppe: you just have to dereference it yourself |
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[18:01] <voidspace> rogpeppe: could this be a potential problem? (not the apple joke) |
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[18:01] <voidspace> rogpeppe: let me hedge my bets a bit more |
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[18:01] <rogpeppe> voidspace: currently no |
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[18:01] <voidspace> would it be fair to say that it's reasonable to assume that perhaps this could be a potential problem, at least in theory |
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[18:01] <rogpeppe> voidspace: the plan was always to allow a machine to change its jobs |
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[18:01] <voidspace> ok |
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[18:02] <rogpeppe> voidspace: so a machine would populate its own machine config's Jobs field |
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[18:02] <perrito666> rogpeppe: a skelton enters a bar and he says: bartender, please give me a whisky and a mop |
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[18:02] <voidspace> I'd tell you a udp joke, but you wouldn't get it |
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[18:03] * rogpeppe laughs at both of those |
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[18:03] <rogpeppe> although i'd heard the udp one before |
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[18:03] <voidspace> I know another udp joke, but I can't tell that one either - it's a bit out of order |
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[18:03] <voidspace> yeah, old |
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[18:03] <rogpeppe> voidspace: pm me :-) |
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[18:03] <voidspace> rogpeppe: no, that was the joke... |
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[18:04] <rogpeppe> oh sod |
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[18:04] <rogpeppe> :-) |
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[18:04] * rogpeppe lols a little more |
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[18:57] <bodie_> I'm really excited that Elon Musk donated $1 million to the new Tesla museum in NY |
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[18:58] <bodie_> I sure hope they take things far |
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[19:08] <urulama> can juju-test be run with a parameter to .test file? |
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[20:11] <mgz> voidspace: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-core/+bug/1307434 |
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[20:11] <_mup_> Bug #1307434: talking to mongo can fail with "TCP i/o timeout" <cloud-installer> <landscape> <performance> <reliability> <juju-core:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307434> |
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[20:17] <stokachu> anyoen know if the ServiceDeploy api call takes 'lxc:1' as its ToMachineSpec? I can't seem to get it to work |
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[20:17] <stokachu> or do i have to add machine first |
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[20:26] <natefinch> stokachu: juju help deploy will give you the format. What are you trying to get it to do? |
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[20:27] <stokachu> deploy to an lxc container on machine 1 |
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[20:28] <natefinch> stokachu: before machine 1 exists, I take it? |
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[20:28] <stokachu> natefinch, no machine 1 exists |
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[20:30] <natefinch> stokachu: oh, hmm. lxc:1 should work.... |
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[20:31] <stokachu> is the param syntax still {'ToMachineSpec': 'lxc:1'} |
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[20:33] <natefinch> stokachu: yeah - https://godoc.org/github.com/juju/juju/juju#DeployServiceParams |
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[20:33] <stokachu> hmm ok i must be doing something wrong with the api call |
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[20:36] <rogpeppe> g'night all |
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[20:46] <stokachu> natefinch, if you don't define a NumUnits it just deploys the charm but never attaches itself to a machine |
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[20:46] <stokachu> shouldnt that give us an error or some indication in the json response? |
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[20:48] <natefinch> yeah, it's a little wacky since numunits would default to 0, which is not really a valid value in any sense of the words |
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[20:49] <natefinch> it should probably complain, yeah |
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[20:49] <natefinch> or default to 1 for numunits < 1 |
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[20:49] <stokachu> yea |
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[20:50] <stokachu> took me awhile to figure out why the ServiceDeploy api call wasn't associating a machine |
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[20:55] <thumper> wallyworld_: sorry about missing the resources meeting, but 7am meetings after my late night lead ones isn't a good time |
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[20:55] <thumper> was too out to it |
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[20:56] <wallyworld_> thumper: np, we didn't need you anyway :-P |
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[20:56] <thumper> good |
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[20:56] <wallyworld_> thumper: i can ping you a bit later and fill you in |
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[20:57] <thumper> sure |
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[21:00] <natefinch> stokachu: the CLI stops you from using num units < 1.. the api should, too |
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[21:00] <stokachu> if i dont define num units it'll just deploy the service with no machine |
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[21:02] <natefinch> stokachu: yeah, that's a bug. We haven't really put a lot of effort into making the API foolproof, unfortunately. |
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[21:02] <stokachu> ill file a bug for it to track then |
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[21:03] <perrito666> natefinch: that should blow at a lower level |
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[21:03] <natefinch> stokachu: thanks |
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[21:04] <perrito666> natefinch: sounds like something that we will never want to allow so making that check should not happen in the borders |
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[21:04] <perrito666> s/borders/edges |
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[21:05] <natefinch> perrito666: yep |
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[21:05] <natefinch> perrito666: no sense having that kind of logic in more than one place |
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[21:06] <thumper> wallyworld_: dog got in a bit of a fight last night, off to the vet in just under an hour, she won't put weight on one of her legs :-( |
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[21:06] <wallyworld_> oh :-( |
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[21:06] <wallyworld_> hope she's ok |
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[21:06] <thumper> so do I |
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[21:06] <thumper> she isn't behaving normally |
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[21:07] <wallyworld_> :-( |
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[21:07] <thumper> was at the vet yesterday for ear infection |
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[21:07] <wallyworld_> $$$$$$ |
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[21:07] <thumper> which may have made her a little short tempered |
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[21:07] * thumper nods |
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[21:07] <wallyworld_> i'll ping you later after dinner here |
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[21:12] <wallyworld_> thumper: what do you mean by "name connection"? |
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[21:13] <thumper> wallyworld_: we are going to have 'juju connect' and use the name "connection" to refer to a particular thing |
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[21:13] <wallyworld_> thumper: this work will eventually kill the need for Environ to have to be able to provide mongo addresses |
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[21:13] <thumper> a connection is to an environment within a juju server as a user |
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[21:13] <thumper> wallyworld_: I'm happy that there is MongoInfo |
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[21:14] <thumper> I was just saying I didn't like axw's suggestion of calling it ConnectionInfo |
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[21:14] <wallyworld_> thumper: so Environ interface has StateInfo() returning a MongoInfo() and APIInfo() |
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[21:14] <wallyworld_> the MongoInfo return value will go away |
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[21:15] <thumper> because an Environ doesn't need it? |
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[21:15] <axw> thumper: yeah agreed, I mostly just didn't like the inconsistency |
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[21:15] <wallyworld_> Environ has no business knowing how the state persistence layer connects to mongo |
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[21:15] <thumper> axw: fair enough, consistency ftw |
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[21:15] <thumper> wallyworld_: agreed |
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[21:15] <wallyworld_> and i am about to propose a branch the means it doesn't have to |
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[21:16] <wallyworld_> thumper: you will be happy also with stuff that is being done to unpick State, will fill you in later |
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[21:16] <thumper> wallyworld_: ack |
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[21:16] <thumper> wallyworld_: next week is fine |
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[21:16] <wallyworld_> ok |
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[21:39] <dpb1> Hi all -- 1.20.1 + latest maas: anyone seen this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7777233/ (line 88) |
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[21:49] <thumper> dpb1: not seen it, but I don't test maas |
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[21:50] * thumper off to the vet again |
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[21:58] <dpb1> thumper: OK... anyone else seen it? :) |
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[22:53] <waigani> thumper: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/289 |
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