| [05:49] <didrocks> good morning | |
| [05:57] <pitti> Bonjour tout le monde | |
| [05:57] <pitti> hey didrocks | |
| [05:59] <didrocks> bonjour pitti ! | |
| [06:10] <mvo> hey seb128, good morning | |
| [06:10] <seb128> hey pitti didrocks mvo | |
| [06:10] <mvo> seb128: you are here early, how come? did the sun wake you up :) ? | |
| [06:11] <pitti> bonjour seb128 -- c'est tôt ! | |
| [06:12] <seb128> what are you talking about? I'm an early bird! | |
| [06:12] <seb128> mvo, sun? I'm in Lyon, it's raining there | |
| [06:12] <mvo> :) I am not, I'm just forced by circumstances to be one | |
| [06:12] <seb128> I blame didrocks | |
| [06:12] <mvo> seb128: haha, I get it | |
| [06:12] <mvo> seb128: he is responsible for the rain ;) | |
| [06:12] * mvo hugs seb128 | |
| [06:12] * seb128 hugs mvo | |
| [06:13] <didrocks> you are mean guys | |
| [06:13] <didrocks> come on, beautiful weather the whole week and now you are complaining about rain! | |
| [06:45] <seb128> Saviq, rsalveti: hey, did you coordinate on the ubuntu-system-settings landing? | |
| [06:49] <rsalveti> seb128: no, was planning to respin it once my change lands, but then it got stuck temporarily because of a flaky test | |
| [06:50] <rsalveti> I'm in china this week, so my timezone doesn't help much, so that's why I just went ahead | |
| [06:50] <rsalveti> after making sure it wasn't breaking anything in the other landing | |
| [06:50] <rsalveti> as I thought this the other landing would land yesterday, but didn't happen | |
| [06:50] <seb128> rsalveti, do you know why the suru changes didn't land yesterday? | |
| [06:51] <rsalveti> seb128: no idea | |
| [06:51] <seb128> k | |
| [06:51] <seb128> let's hope your landing doesn't create too much work for Saviq then | |
| [06:51] <seb128> he's trying to land the suru transition for a while | |
| [06:51] <rsalveti> it shouldn't, should be migrating to propose in a few minutes | |
| [06:51] <rsalveti> sorry, to release | |
| [06:51] <rsalveti> now that pitti retried the job | |
| [06:52] <seb128> right, well it still means the silo needs a rebuild | |
| [06:53] <rsalveti> yup, I'm waiting it to migrate to rebuild it | |
| [06:53] <rsalveti> it would be all fine it wasn't this annoying flaky test, but well | |
| [06:53] <rsalveti> life is not that easy | |
| [06:54] <seb128> right | |
| [07:15] <Saviq> heh... /me rebuilds settings :| | |
| [07:21] <rsalveti> Saviq: what happened that this didn't land yesterday? | |
| [07:21] <Saviq> rsalveti, no QA | |
| [07:21] <rsalveti> sorry for the noise | |
| [07:21] <rsalveti> oh, ok, hope we can land this today then | |
| [07:22] <Saviq> rsalveti, yeah, just need to catch davmor2 or om26er | |
| [07:22] <rsalveti> cool | |
| [07:40] <seb128> Saviq, do we need to block on qa for that? | |
| [07:40] <Saviq> we don't *need* to | |
| [07:40] <seb128> but you prefer? ;-) | |
| [07:41] <Saviq> but it's a significant change affecting the whole system, I just wanted to dilute the responsibility of something breaking ;P | |
| [07:41] <seb128> lol | |
| [07:41] * didrocks adds more water to Saviq's glass :) | |
| [07:41] <Saviq> isn't that what QA signoff is for? :D | |
| [07:41] <seb128> yeah, it is | |
| [07:41] <seb128> why do you think you find nowhere there to actually do the signing? | |
| [07:41] <seb128> :p | |
| [07:41] <seb128> they know what they are doing! | |
| [07:43] <Saviq> :) | |
| [07:45] <seb128> (nowhere -> nobody) | |
| [08:05] <Laney> morning | |
| [08:05] <Laney> seb128's been up early! | |
| [08:05] <seb128> come on! | |
| [08:05] <didrocks> and 5th in a row \o/ | |
| [08:05] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you? | |
| [08:06] * didrocks just hopes desrt wake up and tell the same :) | |
| [08:06] <Laney> hahaha | |
| [08:06] <Laney> wednesday trolling | |
| [08:06] <Laney> yeah I'm good, went to a cool talk last night about how you can make people remember false things | |
| [08:07] <seb128> Laney, did you tell them about yourself remembering that you had to upload the new gtk? | |
| [08:08] <Laney> :P | |
| [08:08] <Laney> I'd be able to recall how we talked about that | |
| [08:08] <Laney> and details of where we were, what we were eating and so on | |
| [08:08] <Laney> even though it never happened | |
| [08:08] <Laney> in summary: memory can suck | |
| [08:11] <seb128> so you can make people remember false things? do you have to get tem hypnotized or something? | |
| [08:12] <seb128> rsalveti, Saviq: u-s-s migrated, you can m&c and trigger a rebuild of the other silo | |
| [08:13] <seb128> oh, you had m&c before it migrated it seems | |
| [08:13] <seb128> ignore me then ;-) | |
| [08:13] <Saviq> seb128, yeah, I already rebuilt ;) | |
| [08:13] * Saviq checks that it got in | |
| [08:14] <Saviq> oh no I'm not, didrocks FYI http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/citrain/silos/ is out of date :| | |
| [08:15] <Saviq> k it's there | |
| [08:15] <didrocks> Saviq: well, they are moving the infra without any warning or discussion and so on, so I can't follow that | |
| [08:15] <Saviq> didrocks, thought so, probably best to just drop it then? | |
| [08:15] <didrocks> yep, doing so | |
| [08:16] <didrocks> thanks | |
| [08:18] <Laney> hmm, one way she showed was to show people three true memories and one false one and ask them to talk about it (telling them that all four were true) | |
| [08:18] <Laney> then at the end if you say that one of them was false sometimes people even guess the wrong one then | |
| [08:19] <Laney> also you can falsify videos or pictures to make people actually believe that they did something they didn't, which is interesting for e.g. justice | |
| [08:19] <seb128> interesting indeed | |
| [08:20] <Laney> apparently presenting false evidence in police interviews is allowed even today in some parts of the US(!) | |
| [08:20] <seb128> crazy country | |
| [08:23] <didrocks> sil2100: as I was removing the whole citrain directory in my home folder which was out of sync (seems you changed some IP without telling me) so that people not relied on that, I deleted the whole directory | |
| [08:23] <desrt> 5th in a row! | |
| [08:23] <didrocks> sil2100: part of it contained the images for the buttons on the spreadsheet | |
| [08:24] <didrocks> sil2100: so, I guess the spreadsheet might have lost its images | |
| [08:24] <seb128> desrt, hey, good "morning"? or are you going to bed? | |
| [08:24] <sil2100> didrocks: what IP? I didn't change any IP | |
| [08:24] <larsu> seb128: probably he had a long Canada day party ;) | |
| [08:24] <larsu> is dholbach in Toronto? | |
| [08:24] <seb128> larsu, yeah, sounds like it | |
| [08:24] <didrocks> sil2100: the ci-train machine changed apparently | |
| [08:24] <didrocks> sil2100: it doesn't respond to ping | |
| [08:24] <sil2100> didrocks: not to my knowledge | |
| [08:24] <didrocks> sil2100: well, it does | |
| [08:24] <sil2100> hmm | |
| [08:25] <seb128> larsu, no, if dholbach was there, desrt would only start the party | |
| [08:25] <didrocks> could have been weeks ago, you didn't keep me in the loop :) | |
| [08:25] <seb128> larsu, not be back | |
| [08:25] <didrocks> but IIRC, you reinstalled it | |
| [08:25] <larsu> seb128: maybe he's still getting ready :P | |
| [08:25] <sil2100> didrocks: maybe it was changed during the 'switch to a bigger disk'? | |
| [08:25] <seb128> marga, ;-) | |
| [08:26] <didrocks> sil2100: can be, I didn't follow the operation | |
| [08:26] <seb128> marga, ups, sorry | |
| [08:26] <seb128> larsu, ;-) | |
| [08:26] <larsu> :) | |
| [08:26] * desrt trouble sleeping | |
| [08:26] <didrocks> sil2100: so, the silos projection in my people.canonical.com didn't work | |
| [08:26] <desrt> for a very very odd reason... | |
| [08:26] <didrocks> sil2100: I removed the whole directory, without remembering there were those buttons… | |
| [08:26] <sil2100> didrocks: just so you know - I was not aware of the machine IP being changed, my understanding was that everything stays the same just the machine is upgraded | |
| [08:26] <larsu> desrt: excited for Berlin? | |
| [08:26] <didrocks> sil2100: you should probably readd some and point to another dir | |
| [08:27] <didrocks> sil2100: no worry, I didn't notice before Saviq pinged me about an outdated projection | |
| [08:27] <desrt> larsu: no. spent most of my holiday untangling a ball of yarn. was very satisfying, but didn't quite finish, so it's bothering me :) | |
| [08:28] <didrocks> sil2100: so, just a warning for the icons, so that you know :) | |
| [08:28] <sil2100> didrocks: ok, will find some buttons then and put them in some seperate place ;) | |
| [08:28] <didrocks> great! | |
| [08:28] <sil2100> Thanks! I now see they're being gone ;p | |
| [08:28] <didrocks> yep, google doesn't cache them for long for sure | |
| [08:29] <larsu> desrt: that's ... random. But cool! | |
| [08:42] <Laney> seb128: I don't see your inline comment | |
| [08:43] <Laney> is it that you wanted me to add some ()? | |
| [08:43] <seb128> lol, that was part of it ;-) | |
| [08:44] * Laney looks harder | |
| [08:47] <seb128> Laney, sorry, I didn't click submit on the inline comment | |
| [08:47] <Laney> np, it's easy to forget that | |
| [08:50] <seb128> Laney, done | |
| [08:52] <Cimi> mpt, small bug: scroll wheel behaviour on sound indicator and within output volume in control center is inverted | |
| [09:00] <mpt> Cimi, possibly bug 1071738 | |
| [09:00] <ubot5> bug 1071738 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "Indicator scroll event says direction UP on 12.10 even when scrolling down" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1071738 | |
| [09:00] <mpt> Or possibly not, if it’s happening in System Settings as well | |
| === Zdra is now known as xclaesse | |
| [09:03] <seb128> larsu, ^ do you know about that? | |
| [09:06] <larsu> seb128: nope. I remember fixing this last year and I can't reproduce it now | |
| [09:07] <larsu> mpt: libappindicator doesn't have anything to do with the sound menu (it's for apps only) | |
| [09:07] <Laney> wtf | |
| [09:07] <Laney> I just replied to that | |
| [09:07] <Laney> where did I do it? | |
| [09:07] * Laney is going mad | |
| [09:07] <larsu> Cimi: you seeing this on utopic? | |
| [09:07] <seb128> larsu, weird, it happens in settings for me | |
| [09:07] <seb128> but that's trusty (though with GTK 3.12° | |
| [09:08] <larsu> so scrolling up moves the slider to the left? | |
| [09:08] <larsu> and the other way around in the sound menu? | |
| [09:08] <larsu> Laney: please don't :) | |
| [09:09] <seb128> larsu, sound menu works fine, u-c-c is reversed indeed | |
| [09:09] <Laney> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407242 | |
| [09:09] <ubot5> Gnome bug 407242 in Widget: GtkRange "Unexpected behavior of GtkScale widgets controled by keyboard" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | |
| [09:09] <larsu> "controlled by keyboard" | |
| [09:09] <Laney> both | |
| [09:09] <larsu> seb128: woah. I have the same in _other_ panels | |
| [09:09] <seb128> gtk bog? | |
| [09:09] <Laney> try using up/down or the scroll wheel | |
| [09:09] <larsu> Mouse & Touchpad sliders behave the other way | |
| [09:10] <larsu> I am using the scroll wheel, that's what we're talking about, no? | |
| [09:10] <larsu> up/down is broken as well | |
| [09:10] <Laney> It is the same for the scroll wheel and the arrow keys | |
| [09:10] <Laney> that's what the bug I just linked says | |
| [09:10] <larsu> okay. In the sound panel, up/down is broken but scroll wheel works | |
| [09:10] <larsu> (for me) | |
| [09:11] <larsu> MADNESS | |
| [09:11] <Laney> all broken for me | |
| [09:13] <larsu> ugh | |
| [09:13] <larsu> gtk_range_set_inverted (GTK_RANGE (priv->scale), TRUE); | |
| [09:13] <seb128> key and scroll are reversed here | |
| [09:13] <larsu> this is from the sound panel ^^ | |
| [09:14] <ogra_> just rename it to volume-lottery | |
| [09:16] <larsu> ah, this was only for the vertical case. The panel does override scroll events though | |
| [09:16] <larsu> probably it gets it wrong | |
| [09:17] <Laney> Seems like a general GtkHScale bug to me | |
| [09:17] <larsu> but why do different ones behave differently then? | |
| [09:17] <larsu> and why do I only see the problem in the Mouse panel? | |
| [09:18] <Laney> I don't know why you see that because it's not what I see, or seb from what he said | |
| [09:18] <Laney> every GtkHScale in u-c-c I'm trying scrolls the same | |
| [09:20] * larsu wonders what he's doing wrong | |
| [09:20] <larsu> you guys are on utopic? | |
| [09:21] <larsu> for me, everyone except the ones in sound scroll the same (wrong) way | |
| [09:21] <Laney> yep | |
| [09:24] <Cimi> yep | |
| [09:24] <larsu> Cimi, seb128, Laney: do you have natural scrolling enabled? | |
| [09:24] <Laney> the indicator is right though | |
| [09:25] <seb128> larsu, no | |
| [09:25] <Cimi> no | |
| [09:25] <Laney> don't think so | |
| [09:25] <Laney> is that where it's always inverted? | |
| [09:25] <larsu> yes, but only for touchpads iirc | |
| [09:25] <larsu> gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchpad natural-scroll | |
| [09:25] <Laney> yeah don't have one of those | |
| [09:26] <Laney> false | |
| [09:38] <larsu> hm, there's a couple of more bugs about this on gnome bugzilla | |
| [09:39] <Laney> anyone noticed / investigated the appearance panel crash? | |
| [09:40] <larsu> not yet, but I have it on my list. I'll try to get to it after lunch | |
| [09:41] <Laney> it's okay, I think I see it | |
| === dbarth_ is now known as dbarth | |
| [10:11] <darkxst> hey desktopers! | |
| [10:16] <Laney> larsu: https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-control-center/appearance-settings-schema-unref/+merge/225282 | |
| [10:16] <Laney> hey darkxst, what's up? | |
| [10:16] <darkxst> Laney, would you believe we had sunshine today ;) | |
| [10:17] <Laney> a mere 18C, right? | |
| [10:17] <darkxst> Laney, maybe 10C | |
| [10:17] <Laney> you poor thing | |
| [10:17] <darkxst> but first time in weeks, that sun decided to come out! | |
| [10:18] <Laney> it's actually 22-23 today, this is quite summery for me | |
| [10:18] <darkxst> Laney, its winter here! | |
| [10:18] <Laney> 10 in winter is amusing to me | |
| [10:19] <darkxst> Laney, Australian winters, you have to head 4 hours drive to get the mountains (and snow) | |
| [10:19] <darkxst> or 36hours to get to the French Alps ;( | |
| [10:21] <darkxst> I really should just move to europe! | |
| [10:21] <Laney> do it | |
| [10:21] <Laney> you're doing a PhD right? | |
| [10:21] <Laney> get yourself a nice little postdoc after | |
| [10:22] <darkxst> Laney, yes | |
| [10:24] <darkxst> could be a go, postdoc's here are pretty dodge | |
| [11:01] <larsu> Laney: cool thanks. Do you know why this didn't crash with the old glib? | |
| [11:02] <larsu> I also love how the other unrefs in that function are already correct | |
| [11:03] <Laney> larsu: It goes through the new g_type_check_instance_fundamentally_is_a() thing now | |
| [11:04] <larsu> ah, interesring | |
| [11:04] <Laney> not sure if it's meant to crash or not though | |
| [11:04] <larsu> Laney: can't top-approve, sorry | |
| [11:05] <Laney> what team is this? | |
| [11:05] <Laney> ah | |
| [11:05] <Laney> larsu: try now | |
| [11:06] <larsu> works, done, thanks. | |
| [11:07] <larsu> oh. firefox crashed | |
| [11:07] <larsu> hasn't happened in a long time for me | |
| [11:17] <Laney> I had a really bad period a month or so ago but it hasn't crashed for a while for me | |
| [11:17] <Laney> I think it was an extension causing it | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | |
| [11:35] <darkxst> ochosi, not sure you fix is actually right, but it will do | |
| [11:35] <darkxst> ochosi, fwiw, gnome-shell fallback to gnome-screensaver when used with lightdm | |
| [11:36] <darkxst> so light-locker would probably be a valid option in that case, just not quite how things are setup right now | |
| [11:44] <seb128> Saviq, so, are you finding qa to test and land suru? ;-) | |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | |
| [11:54] <xnox> Laney: seb128: what handles auto-mounting usb sticks? is that just udisks2? or not at all, and something higher (e.g. gvfs) or lower (e.g. plain udev)? | |
| [11:57] <ochosi> darkxst: right. my main problem is i don't have time atm to look into the lightdm-check (even though i agree that it's the better fix), so i thought i can easily push this for the meantime and revert it once we have the better fix | |
| [11:58] <ochosi> darkxst: i guess for unity it's always correct to not show/launch light-locker >=14.04 | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | |
| [12:22] <Saviq> seb128, it's already ACKed | |
| [12:22] <Saviq> seb128, sil2100 wants to serialize with Mir, though | |
| [12:24] <seb128> sil2100, it's not friday, no need to be cautious | |
| [12:48] <ogra_> seb128, hmm, was that (football) pun intended ? | |
| [12:48] <ogra_> :) | |
| [12:48] <seb128> lol | |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | |
| === MacSlow_ is now known as MacSlow | |
| [13:47] <didrocks> mvo: hey, I was trying to be a little bit smarter on the euid of my program which is using python-apt | |
| [13:47] <didrocks> mvo: I thought that the part needing root was what is under the fork() | |
| [13:48] <didrocks> and so, doing a seteuid(0) in that part | |
| [13:48] <didrocks> but it seems that apt.commit() needs to be root as well? | |
| [14:00] <mvo> didrocks: hm, I can only think that it tries set/unset a lock | |
| [14:01] <didrocks> mvo: exactly! Do you have an idea if I can seteuid(0) just before the commit and then seteuid(user)? | |
| [14:01] <didrocks> mvo: and in the fork() I seteuid(0) again | |
| [14:02] <mvo> didrocks: not from the top of my head, need to look at the source first | |
| [14:03] <didrocks> mvo: hum, doesn't seem to work | |
| [14:04] <didrocks> oh, maybe I know | |
| [14:04] <didrocks> let me try something | |
| [14:05] <didrocks> yeah, I can just "swandwich" the commit() call with those | |
| [14:05] <didrocks> mvo: that would be good enough for now, thanks ;) | |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | |
| [14:44] <seb128> oh, Laney doing landings, nice | |
| [14:44] <seb128> I had a "wth" moment when I saw robert_ancell mp going "merged" ;-) | |
| [14:45] <Laney> heh | |
| [14:45] <Laney> might as well use the powers ;-) | |
| [14:45] <seb128> that's the spirit! | |
| [14:46] <Laney> it's much nicer when you can do the whole thing yourself | |
| [14:47] <seb128> indeed | |
| === mhr3_ is now known as mhr3 | |
| [14:53] <Laney> you going to do a u-s-s one? | |
| [14:53] <Laney> did the icons happen? | |
| [15:03] <GunnarHj> Hi seb128 | |
| [15:04] <seb128> hey GunnarHj | |
| [15:05] <GunnarHj> seb128: Talked with infinity about bug 1308771. He didn't see any problem with the new binaries. Any chance you could upload? | |
| [15:05] <ubot5> bug 1308771 in openoffice.org-hyphenation (Ubuntu Trusty) "Update Swedish spellcheck and hyphenation dictionaries" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308771 | |
| [15:05] <seb128> GunnarHj, can you just add it in the sponsoring queue? | |
| [15:05] <seb128> but I can have a look tomorrow if nobody pick it up before | |
| [15:06] <GunnarHj> seb128: It has been there for a loong, loong time.. But tomorrow is ok. | |
| [15:06] <seb128> right, it was blocked on SRU team to ack the change as being ok for a SRU though | |
| [15:07] <GunnarHj> seb128: I added the IRC conversation as a bug comment. | |
| [15:07] <seb128> that's useful, thanks | |
| [15:25] <Laney> darkxst: I'm testing your stuff | |
| [15:25] <Laney> the only problem I see now is that the monitors are the wrong way aroudn | |
| [15:25] <Laney> around | |
| [15:28] <Laney> x and y look right in monitors.xml | |
| === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch | |
| === fredp` is now known as fredp | |
| [16:25] <Laney> darkxst: if I use xrandr to set the position it gets fixed | |
| [16:25] <Laney> looks like there's a problem applying the monitors.xml config | |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | |
| [17:02] <Laney> night! | |
| === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox | |
| [17:52] <eridu> hello, is this an appropriate channel for unity shell bug reports? | |
| [17:53] <eridu> I'd report on launchpad but it seems to be a regression and I'd like help firetesting it a bit first | |
| [17:57] <sarnold> eridu: there's also an #ubuntu-unity that might work | |
| === thumper is now known as thumper-afk | |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | |
| [23:10] <psusi> so I'm trying to figure out how the desktop session hangs together... lightdm, gnome-session, etc.. and looking at all their config files I can't see how init --session and dbus and such are run... it looks like the only thing they start is compiz+unity-settings daemon or gnome-settings-daemon+gnome-shell.. what gives? | |