| [04:07] <mitya57> Riddell: yes, please upload, I don't have upload rights for it. | |
| [06:12] <soee> good morning | |
| [06:50] <lordievader> Good morning. | |
| [08:02] <apachelogger> wgrant: can you please give these two builds a score bump https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987612 https://code.launchpad.net/~blue-shell/+archive/taskmanager-qml/+build/5987613 | |
| [08:03] <wgrant> apachelogger: Done | |
| [08:03] <apachelogger> wgrant: thanks | |
| [08:03] <wgrant> Though they're mostly behind KDE builds anyway :P | |
| [08:03] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1089483] package kde-runtime-data 4:4.9.2-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: package kde-runtime-d... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1089483 (by Richel Bilderbeek) | |
| [08:04] <apachelogger> wgrant: oh, what do we have queued? | |
| [08:04] <wgrant> I saw a lot of neon stuff earlier. | |
| [08:04] <wgrant> Maybe it's cleared now | |
| [08:05] <apachelogger> should be, they get triggered at 3 UTC I think | |
| [08:05] <wgrant> The queues are pretty awful atm, so you never know. | |
| [08:06] <apachelogger> indeed, I saw a build that was in queue for 10 hours ^^ | |
| [08:08] <apachelogger> valorie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/SystemDocumentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuUseful%29 <- isn't that CategoryKubuntuRubbish? | |
| [08:08] <apachelogger> seems to be about the legacy docs setup | |
| [08:08] <valorie> it should not be moved | |
| [08:09] <valorie> but I wish there was a way to save it... perhaps I'll just copy to a text file | |
| [08:09] <apachelogger> well, instead of deleting it I can mark it deprecated | |
| [08:10] <valorie> that would work | |
| [08:10] <apachelogger> internally its search matches will be down scored but the data is still there | |
| [08:22] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lp5a-r3MJU | |
| [08:22] <apachelogger> the internet is a very strange place | |
| [08:24] <apachelogger> valorie: what do I do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Documentation?highlight=%28CategoryKubuntuRubbish%29 | |
| [08:24] <valorie> wow | |
| [08:24] <apachelogger> that actually seems like a duplication of the other page to begin with Oo | |
| [08:24] <valorie> burn it with fire | |
| [08:25] * apachelogger uses the mighty flamethrower | |
| [08:27] <valorie> that song seems to have been written to accompany the image of the octopus | |
| [08:27] <valorie> so strange.... | |
| [08:30] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYK2i2tR7gU this video OTOH raises the question how many people get eaten by octopuses every year | |
| [08:31] <valorie> giant squid will kill and eat a whale.... | |
| [08:32] <valorie> oh my, octopus hickeys | |
| [08:32] <apachelogger> makes for peculiar office talk | |
| [08:33] <valorie> that there is a name for a band | |
| [08:34] <apachelogger> first hit single "little octopus climbing over rock" | |
| [08:35] <valorie> better than Men With Hats | |
| [08:35] <valorie> or Trololo | |
| [08:35] <valorie> detachable penis though, not better than that | |
| [08:37] * apachelogger nods | |
| [08:38] <apachelogger> I think the kubuntu membership page needs some updatery and bringing in line with reality | |
| [08:38] <apachelogger> such as: not requiring a wiki page that no one will read and then be outdated the rest of eternity | |
| [08:39] <valorie> I update my page! | |
| [08:39] <Riddell> I find a wiki page really helpful when doing memberships | |
| [08:39] <valorie> sometimes..... | |
| [08:39] <valorie> it is personal advertising | |
| [08:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, but couldn't people just as well throw that on lunchpad itself? | |
| [08:39] <valorie> on launchpad? | |
| [08:39] <valorie> where | |
| [08:39] <apachelogger> tehre's an about field | |
| [08:39] <apachelogger> or there used to be one | |
| [08:40] <apachelogger> valorie: right at the top of your user page :P | |
| [08:41] <valorie> well, I like the space to fill in details | |
| [08:41] <valorie> because I forget what years I did things, etc. | |
| [08:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: I guess so, or a blog or whatever | |
| [08:41] <apachelogger> valorie: I don't think a lot of people actually track stuff like that | |
| [08:41] <valorie> a blog would be good too | |
| [08:42] <valorie> because then we can use them for advertising cool kub. stuff | |
| [08:42] <apachelogger> my general point is: a wiki page is not much advertising outside the membership process | |
| [08:42] <valorie> true | |
| [08:42] <valorie> at one time I was more enthused about the whole ubuntu community | |
| [08:42] <valorie> but now I stick more to my favorite places | |
| [08:43] <valorie> such as here | |
| [08:43] <apachelogger> and youtube | |
| [08:43] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm368W0OsHo | |
| [08:43] <valorie> bbiam | |
| [08:43] <apachelogger> also youtube annotations kill kittens | |
| [08:44] * apachelogger argues that wiki move is complete | |
| [08:45] <apachelogger> oh, the developers page is still missing | |
| [08:51] <shadeslayer> hi | |
| [08:54] <Peace-> hi shadeslayer | |
| [08:54] * Peace- reads about lxqt 0.7 pubblic release | |
| [08:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: re symbols from last night, debian/libkdecorations4abi2.symbols needs redoing right? | |
| [08:55] <yofel> does it? I was just irritated that we had a symbol diff at all | |
| [08:57] <shadeslayer> yofel: symbol diff against debian or symbol diff in my changes? | |
| [08:57] <yofel> symbol diff in your changes | |
| [08:58] <shadeslayer> well, some of them were required, for eg, the symbols file declared a build-dep on kdebase-workspace-dev | |
| [08:58] <yofel> we often have symbol diff with debian, that's why using their symbol files is nonsense | |
| [08:58] <shadeslayer> changed that to kde-workspace-dev | |
| [08:58] <shadeslayer> but as for actual symbol changes, libkdecorations is the only one that I changed | |
| [08:59] <yofel> the build-depends changes are fine, maybe I was just confused by your X-Debian-ABI changes which caused a huge diff | |
| [09:00] <shadeslayer> yep, there I actually used the debian symbols file | |
| [09:00] <yofel> builds fine? | |
| [09:00] <shadeslayer> yeah | |
| [09:00] <yofel> k, leave it then | |
| [09:00] <shadeslayer> ok | |
| [09:01] <shadeslayer> I was actually thinking of copying over debian's symbols to see what kind of diff we get | |
| [09:02] <apachelogger> yofel, Mamarok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Kubuntu/Introduction are we still using that? | |
| [09:02] <apachelogger> last update was 2012 | |
| [09:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: fixed and pushed | |
| [09:19] * shadeslayer hops onto pkg-kde-tools | |
| [09:20] <Mamarok> apachelogger: no idea, at least I don't know of another one | |
| [09:21] <Mamarok> apachelogger: also last edit was in 2014, so I guess yes | |
| [09:21] <apachelogger> Mamarok: that was adding a tag for review | |
| [09:22] <Mamarok> s I said: I don't know of another one, and I never even touched that thing. It doesn't look obsolete | |
| [09:23] <Mamarok> woah, wiki login takes like 2 minutes? | |
| [09:23] <apachelogger> there's a reason I am moving our pages away from that wiki :P | |
| [09:23] <Mamarok> 3 minutes now, still waiting | |
| [09:23] <Mamarok> so yes, use that page, I guess one would just have to update it | |
| [09:23] <apachelogger> proxy will time out | |
| [09:24] <Mamarok> that still the old moin moin thing? | |
| [09:24] <Riddell> yep | |
| [09:24] <Mamarok> ah, I am in | |
| [09:26] <Mamarok> oh my, where can I change my settings? I still have a very old email, but there are no settings, I guess ubuntu one thing? Last time I tried to change something there I filed a bug because it didn't work, and that still doesn't seem to be solved, as I still get updates for that bug | |
| [09:27] <apachelogger> Mamarok: https://login.ubuntu.com/ | |
| [09:27] <apachelogger> or maybe that's wiki specific | |
| [09:28] <apachelogger> no, should be from login.ubuntu | |
| [09:28] <Mamarok> I will try... | |
| [09:30] <shadeslayer> mitya57: ping | |
| [09:32] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: were apol and you able to come up with a way to reproduce the kconfig crash btw? | |
| [09:32] <shadeslayer> mitya57: where is our pkg-kde-tools tracked? | |
| [09:32] <shadeslayer> i.e. which bzr branch | |
| [09:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: not really | |
| [09:33] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apol told me to try this patch http://pastebin.com/TzyabYCF and see if everything works | |
| [09:33] <shadeslayer> and everything worked | |
| [09:33] <shadeslayer> well, when I say worked, I mean nothing seemed broken | |
| [09:33] <apachelogger> yeah, would be nice to have a test validating the fix for SRU though ^^ | |
| [09:34] <apachelogger> seems largely random though as threading issues always are | |
| [09:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/utopic/pkg-kde-tools/utopic/view/head:/debian/rules#L8 is that l10n target required? | |
| [09:50] <shadeslayer> if so, the version seems wrong | |
| [09:52] * shadeslayer taps fingers | |
| [09:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is | |
| [09:58] <shadeslayer> it's required? in that case, the version is wrong? | |
| [09:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it is | |
| [09:58] <shadeslayer> ok | |
| [09:58] * shadeslayer fixes and moves on | |
| [10:06] <Riddell> xnox: hi, you were wondering about a qt5 port of ubiquity? | |
| [10:06] <Riddell> xnox: there's nothing talked about so far but one is needed | |
| [10:06] <Riddell> xnox: a port to QWidget qt5 should be pretty simple | |
| [10:06] <xnox> Riddell: do you want it as a separate frontend / new frontend? | |
| [10:06] <Riddell> xnox: and that should be kubuntu could share the majority of code with ubuntu which would be lovely | |
| [10:07] <xnox> Riddell: would you ship qt5 ubiquity frontend without shipping framework5? | |
| [10:07] <xnox> Riddell: is framework5 going to be on kubuntu image for 14.10? | |
| [10:07] <Riddell> xnox: yet to be decided but I hope so | |
| [10:07] <xnox> Riddell: initially, i'm thinking to do a straight kde frontend port to qt5 and use that interim. | |
| [10:07] <Riddell> xnox: but that's pretty unrelated as ubiquity is qt only | |
| [10:07] <xnox> Riddell: add ubuntu features/branding as of when needed. | |
| [10:08] <Riddell> xnox: right | |
| [10:08] <apachelogger> I really don't think we'll need kf5 for a qt5 port, short of libsolid anyway | |
| [10:08] <apachelogger> we don't really need the higher tier frameworks | |
| [10:08] <xnox> Riddell: right, i mean do you ship qt5 on the image already, and would that be an acceptable dependency? | |
| [10:09] <Riddell> xnox: we don't yet but I hope we will in utopic and we'd be all for it as a dependency | |
| [10:09] <xnox> Riddell: cool, thanks. | |
| [10:40] <shadeslayer> \o/ pkg-kde-tools merged | |
| [10:46] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Can you get ktp in trusty-proposed verified? It's old enough to be released if it gets tested. | |
| [10:46] * shadeslayer checks | |
| [10:47] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I've been running it since it hit the repo | |
| [10:47] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Then mark it verification done if you've tested it. | |
| [10:47] <shadeslayer> roger | |
| [10:53] <Riddell> hmm, do we have any qt 5.3 packages? | |
| [10:55] <Riddell> seems plasma next needs it :( | |
| [10:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: maybe in the beta Qt PPA? | |
| === fabo_ is now known as fabo | |
| [10:59] <Riddell> nah, I guess neon is the only place | |
| [11:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: listening to alot of violin tunes I see :P | |
| [11:03] <apachelogger> pianos are cool. | |
| [11:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: violins are cooler | |
| [11:04] <apachelogger> not really | |
| [11:04] <shadeslayer> :O | |
| [11:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer: inspired by you I'm sure | |
| [11:05] <apachelogger> sounds too often like dying kittens | |
| [11:05] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: only when played incorrectly | |
| [11:05] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEPV4kolz0 everyone likes piano men | |
| [11:05] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: no, they just do | |
| [11:05] <apachelogger> it's what they are meant to do | |
| [11:06] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: ^^ halp | |
| [11:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB_ghvfZ3ao | |
| [11:08] <apachelogger> and that doesn't sound like a dying kitten you say? | |
| [11:08] <shadeslayer> no | |
| [11:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: this is what I'm practicing these days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faIclqBe7E8 | |
| [11:10] <shadeslayer> them fingers be mental | |
| [11:12] <apachelogger> http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/A_Chorus_of_Wieners | |
| [11:12] <shadeslayer> heh | |
| [11:15] <apachelogger> Uploading muon_2.2.0-0ubuntu3.1_source.changes: done. | |
| [11:15] <apachelogger> Successfully uploaded packages. | |
| [11:15] <apachelogger> ScottK: ^ SRU for kconfig crashes in muon | |
| [11:24] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: what do you need help with? | |
| [11:26] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: convincing apachelogger that violins > pianos | |
| [11:26] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: and that violins don't sound like dying kittens | |
| [11:27] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: only that Gane of Thrones exampe is dreadful, as his violin is badly tuned and he plays awful | |
| [11:27] <Mamarok> his bow is just terrible | |
| [11:27] <shadeslayer> lol, I can't tell at the moment, my ear isn't trained enough | |
| [11:28] <BluesKaj> 'Mornimg all | |
| [11:29] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: this one is much better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNjxD3yjos | |
| [11:29] <Mamarok> just don't do this to your bow :) | |
| [11:58] <Riddell> hola shadeslayer | |
| [11:58] <Riddell> hola sgclark too | |
| [11:58] <sgclark> morning :) | |
| [12:00] <sgclark> Riddell: kdelibs4support or plasma-framework still attention? | |
| [12:02] <Riddell> sgclark: I'm on kdelibs4support | |
| [12:02] <Riddell> sgclark: plasma-framework is all yours | |
| [12:02] <sgclark> ok thanks! | |
| [12:02] <Riddell> followed by krunner | |
| [12:03] <sgclark> k | |
| [12:25] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I see you've now inspired afiestas for some strings as well | |
| [12:39] <ScottK> apachelogger: Thanks. I'll try to take a look at it tonight. | |
| [12:45] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: O_O | |
| [12:46] <shadeslayer> dat bow | |
| [12:47] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: did you never completely unscrew it? Horse hair is awesome :) | |
| [12:48] <shadeslayer> Not completely | |
| [12:50] <sgclark> Riddell: plasma-framework ready | |
| [13:06] * apachelogger squints at gmail being filled with strange mails | |
| [13:06] <apachelogger> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7SvCEc4BkQ | |
| [13:07] <apachelogger> in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season7 :@ | |
| [13:07] <apachelogger> s/7/8/ oh my head | |
| [13:07] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "in related news: the mighty bbc still hasn't given an air date for season8 :@" | |
| [13:07] <apachelogger> kubotu: order coffee | |
| [13:07] * kubotu slides a cup of steamy hot coffee down the bar to apachelogger. | |
| [13:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: inorite | |
| [13:08] <shadeslayer> :( | |
| [13:11] <Riddell> sgclark: yay! | |
| [14:21] <sgclark> Riddell: krunner ready | |
| [14:21] <shadeslayer> thoughts about dropping this delta http://paste.kde.org/pfzxyvivd | |
| [14:21] <shadeslayer> saucy has 1:2.7.2-0ubuntu2 | |
| [14:22] <shadeslayer> trusty has 2.8 | |
| [14:22] <shadeslayer> so everything should be safe | |
| [14:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Riddell ^^ | |
| [14:23] <apachelogger> dunno, we need a policy for people to comment that shit | |
| [14:23] <shadeslayer> I agree | |
| [14:23] <apachelogger> just as annoying as can-we-drop-that-transition-yet | |
| [14:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: why are you unsure btw? | |
| [14:24] <apachelogger> I am not, it just needs looking into :P | |
| [14:25] <apachelogger> 2.6 was in the rawring | |
| [14:26] <shadeslayer> rmadison doesn't list raring | |
| [14:26] <apachelogger> whos that? | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> Riddell: | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> Copied from: Kubuntu Package Staging (DON'T USE). Copied by: Jonathan Riddell Target series: Precise | |
| [14:27] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/pp7uzlxc0 | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> pykde4 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa1 in precise (source has no binaries to be copied) | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> btw | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> kubuntu-backports that is | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: mind you, IMO conflicts replacery should never be dropped | |
| [14:28] <apachelogger> no older calligrawr in the ppas | |
| [14:28] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: fine to drop | |
| [14:29] <apachelogger> on a related note... I wonder what happens if one appends the same relationship but a different version | |
| [14:29] <apachelogger> e.g. if one had preserved the 2.4 conflictery but add a 2.6 conflictery | |
| [14:29] <apachelogger> that would ultimately make deltas more obvious | |
| [14:31] * shadeslayer hates merging | |
| [14:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7416392/ line 142 | |
| [14:43] <shadeslayer> can be dropped too? | |
| [14:44] <shadeslayer> since everyone who upgraded to Trusty will have that, even if we backport calligra, people who upgraded to trusty will have the files in the correct place | |
| [15:10] <apachelogger> now the cache rescans are back in the language kcm | |
| [15:14] <apachelogger> now they are gone again | |
| [15:14] * apachelogger sighs | |
| [15:25] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] KDE Locale module support for changing language is incomplete @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | |
| === joshw is now known as joshwambua | |
| [15:39] <apachelogger> ScottK: kde-runtime also has an SRU for bug 1317115 | |
| [15:39] <ubottu> bug 1317115 in kde-runtime (Ubuntu Trusty) "language kcm doesn't write env setup script" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 | |
| [16:25] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | |
| [16:49] * shadeslayer is stopping work on calligra to preserve sanity | |
| [17:25] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1317115] language kcm doesn't write env setup script @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1317115 (by Tim Edwards) | |
| === alket_ is now known as alket | |
| [21:33] <Riddell> weird e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/pxhrcein0#line-5 | |
| [21:37] <Riddell> so green http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.99.0_trusty.html | |