2014/04/26/#kubuntu.txt

[00:01] <rocco> Hola
[00:02] <vistakiller> hi
[00:02] <fARIS> how do i  go abt to get back my old sound driver
[00:03] <rocco> kubuntu is buggy for me -14.04 :/
[00:03] <vistakiller> did you see the option of main channel in the right click menu?
[00:03] <vistakiller> to select the main channel
[00:03] <rocco> consumes more ram than 12.04
[00:03] <rocco> and freezes averytime
[00:04] <vistakiller> maybe gpu drivers?
[00:04] <rocco> i have it
[00:05] <rocco> propietary ones
[00:05] <rocco> well, imma comeback to 12.04
[00:05] <vistakiller> nvidia?
[00:06] <rocco> yes nvidia
[00:07] <rocco> im runing kde on this old pc, pentium4, 1.2gb ram, nvidia 128mb
[00:09] <vistakiller> i think kde4 is not for that systems.
[00:09] <vistakiller> why you dont use lubuntu or something like that?
[00:09] <rocco> i love KDE
[00:09] <vistakiller> me too :P
[00:09] <rocco> damn,,,
[00:10] <vistakiller> you need a new pc :D
[00:10] <rocco> for sure
[00:10] <rocco> lxde is ugly as hell
[00:10] <rocco> :D
[00:13] <rocco> if i install kde on top of lubuntu will rin lighter???
[00:13] <rocco> run*
[01:46] <DarthFrog> No.
[01:46] <DarthFrog> You'll just be using KDE instead of LXDE as your desktop environment.  The underlying system will be the same for all Ubuntu derivatives.
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> So .. not installing debian
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> necrogami: ok. we can help with "install wheezy" but once you install proxmox, you're on your own
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> abrotman, it's still a clean wheezy install
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> after that ill take over the proxmox part of things
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> i don't need help with that part
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> necrogami: not with those instructions
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> ?
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> I did it yesterday at work from those instructions
[02:06] <splendidsnapper> abrotman: he's not following those instructions *yet*
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> necrogami: installing wheezy works just find
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> fine?
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> not for my experience
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> installing wheezy didn't work for him
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> firmware issues
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> It turns out i was missing firmware
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> and also unetbootin ...
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> working on correcting that now
[02:07] <splendidsnapper> so double fail
[02:07] <unopaste> splendidsnapper you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
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[05:31] <zzzqqqggg> dddddddddddddd
[05:32] <zzzqqqggg> 有人否？
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[07:29] <exalt> Hello, how to set a different default lecture in ktouch ?
[07:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[07:46] <silv3r_m00n> i was fiddling with somethings yesterday and now konqueror seems to have become the default file manager, clicking anything (like a device notification in system tray) opens konqueror, how do i revert it to dolphin ?
[07:47] <silv3r_m00n> this quickaccess plasma widget also opens konqueror now, it was opening dolphin earlier
[07:53] <NewKubuntuUser> hi guys...
[07:53] <NewKubuntuUser> can someone of you tell me why i can't install wine via muon?
[07:53] <NewKubuntuUser> he does not find the package
[07:54] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:55] <NewKubuntuUser> anyway i've got the feeling he doesn't find all the packages which are avaiable?
[07:55] <NewKubuntuUser> l
[07:56] <lordievader> !info wine
[07:56] <ubottu> wine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)
[07:56] <lordievader> NewKubuntuUser: What happens when you try to install it through apt?
[07:56] <NewKubuntuUser> it's possible to install via pat
[07:56] <NewKubuntuUser> apt
[07:57] <NewKubuntuUser> but thats not my endeavour
[07:59] <NewKubuntuUser> so can u explain why it's possible to install via apt and not via muon lordievader ?
[08:01] <lordievader> Since I rarely use Muon I do not know the differences. So I really wouldn't know why apt is capable of installing Wine and Muon isn't.
[08:02] <NewKubuntuUser> interessting,... thats exactly my point of view :D
[08:04] <NewKubuntuUser> damn... kubuntu 14.04 is really nice.. but these are the things which make me really angry .... :-/
[08:06] <NewKubuntuUser> lordievader: do you think there's a connection between 64bit and the fact i can't install 64-bit wine via muon? just a guess
[08:07] <lordievader> For as far as I know Muon still calls apt in the background, that is what makes this so strange.
[08:08] <NewKubuntuUser> hmm
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[08:08] <Antisound> hmm..
[08:08] <Antisound> wtf is going on here
[08:10] <Antisound> i'm downloading 32bit version right now.. and try it via live usb if it's possible to install it in the 32bit arch
[08:10] <Antisound> pretty excited..
[08:11] <exalt> So anyone able to explain me how to select a specific course in ktouch ?
[08:18] <Antisound> homerun kicker is really awesome :D
[08:20] <Antisound> bye everybody :D
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[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> How do I use Kleopatra?
[09:11] <ovidiu-florin> I have a GPG key on my machine configured, but Kleopatra does not see it
[09:12] <ovidiu-florin> I need to configure this so get kwallet configured with GPG
[09:22] <cer> how do you open a file manager as root?
[09:34] <lordievader> cer: Why do you need to do that?
[09:35] <ovidiu-florin> cer: kdesu dolphin
[09:36] <ovidiu-florin> or kdesudo dolphin
[09:39] <cer> ovidiu-florin: thanks!
[09:40] <cer> by the way did anyone upgrade immediately to 14.04 or is everybody sticking with 13.10?
[09:40] <lordievader> cer: I did, on some machines. Other machines have to wait.
[09:42] <cer> lordievader: this morning a lanuched an update of my kubuntu, as every week, and it is download 538Mb of upgrades!!
[09:42] <lordievader> cer: I saw that a tmpfs speeds up the downloading quite a bit.
[09:43] <cer> lordievader: did you experience any major issues?
[09:43] <lordievader> Chromium is broken in 14.04.
[09:43] <cer> lordievader: yes I have tmpfs mounted
[09:44] <cer> lordievader: any other issues?
[09:45] <lordievader> Haven't seen any else. Where did you mount the tmpfs?
[09:47] <cer> lordievader: mmmm .... wait
[09:47] <cer> lordievader: on /run
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[09:52] <cer> I seem to experience difficulties with downloading pictures from cameras in kubuntu .... in particular, Gwenview does not see the camersa, whilst digikam sees the camera but takes forever and a day to download, cannot preview and then cannot delete fro the card.
[10:10] <lordievader> cer: For apt you want to mount your tmpfs in /var/cache/apt/archives (after that you want to create the folder 'partial' in there)
[10:10] <cer> lordievader: thanks a lot, I did not know it would have improved things!
[10:10] <cer> lordievader: very useful
[10:12] <lordievader> Apt downloads the debian packages to there, using a tmpfs for it ensures the download speed is not capped by the hdd speed. However make sure the tmpfs is large enough (I needed about 1 Gb for the upgrade)
[10:14] <cer> lordievader: wow .... I will! Is there a way to limit the tmpfs, so that it does not overgrow?
[10:14] <lordievader> cer: tmpfs uses a fixed size, ramfs can grow indefinetly.
[10:15] <cer> lordievader: thanks again .... I never use it, so I do not know muh about it
[10:15] <lordievader> Oh if your upgrade fails, be sure to disable the tmpfs and try again.
[10:18] <cer> lordievader: thanks a lot
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[10:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[11:19] <m2k1981> System monitor shows that I'm receiving data at speed  of 25KiB/s  but Ktorrent with one download and one seeding shows that I'm receiving data at the speed of 3-5 Kib/s  Any Help
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[13:38]  * scorpking waves..
[13:40] <scorpking> hi guys. does anyone know what the easiest way would be to setup a local mail server that retrieves all mail from an online server and then make it available on the local network via pop?
[13:40] <scorpking> SDR isn't really the way i want to do it
[13:48] <scorpking> getmail is the answer
[13:57] <lolmaus> I'm on 64bit, but i need to build (./configure, make) a program as i386. How do i do that?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> lolmaus, should be ok to build as long as you have 'multiarch support' installed
[14:01] <TBotNik_> All, Recovering Kbuntu 12.04 laptop and file iwlwifi-100-6.ucode is required but does not exist in any existing active online repositories.  Where do I find this file?
[14:02] <TBotNik_> All, iwlwifi-100-6.ucode is needed for the Intel Centrino N-100 wifi chip in the laptop.
[14:03] <TBotNik_> All latest version in the active repositories is: iwlwifi-100-5.ucode
[14:03] <TBotNik_> All,
[14:07] <TBotNik_> All, I don't find it in the "Next" repositories either.  Hoping I can just find the right repository, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to allow: "apt-get purge iwlwifi && apt-get install iwlwifi" purging old and installing new.  All help here appreciated.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> TBotNik_, have you updated and upgraded lately ?
[14:17] <nan> hello,
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[14:19] <Guest61318> I'm new on this ubuntu and kubuntu and i'm migriting from windows 7 and the worst windows ever (8 and 8.1)
[14:19] <Guest61318> Simply I dont wanto to work with windows enymore
[14:20] <Guest61318> but we have a Windows server 2003
[14:21] <Guest61318> So, now the proble is the chopice between ubuntu and kubuntu and if it is possible to connect the desktops to the active directory of ws2003?
[14:21] <Guest61318> Can someone help?
[14:23] <Guest61318> Another question is regarding the swap. An equipment with 1 gm ram and 60gb disk space what is recomended? The partition is logical or primary?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> yes Guest61318, by adding a network folder in dolphin using the MS windows network drive option and make sure the server is shared
[14:27] <BluesKaj> linux swap can be either logical or primary depending on the partition position,
[14:27] <Guest61318> and users with kubuntu will have the same permitions to read or delete files as ther were using windows desktop?
[14:27] <TBotNik_> BluesKaj: Just did before posting this!
[14:28] <TBotNik_> BluesKaj: Posted writeup on this at: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/201093-recovery-desperate.html
[14:30] <Guest61318> Regarding partition i was tinking: 1st primary with 20 GB for /, 2nd logical with 2048 M as swap and 3rd primary with the rest for /hom. What do you thisnk?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Guest61318, are you dual booting ?
[14:31] <Guest61318> no
[14:32] <Guest61318> I wanto to erase w from our systems....
[14:32] <BluesKaj> swap is usually the last partition in the sequence
[14:32] <Guest61318> ok, should i use logical or primary?
[14:33] <BluesKaj> 15G for / is usually plenty as long as you run autoremove and autoclean periodically
[14:35] <BluesKaj> primary or logical, really doesn't matter afaik
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Guest61318, primary or logical for swap
[14:38] <Guest61318> Thanks for your comments
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Guest61318, np
[14:53] <martin__> Ahoj.
[15:29] <TBotNik_> All, Recovering Kbuntu 12.04 laptop and file iwlwifi-100-6.ucode is required but does not exist in any existing active online repositories.  Where do I find this file? The iwlwifi-100-6.ucode file is needed for the Intel Centrino N-100 wifi chip in the laptop. Latest version in the active repositories is: iwlwifi-100-5.ucode. I don't find it in the "Next" repositories either.  Hoping I can just find the right repository, edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to
[15:29] <TBotNik_> allow: "apt-get purge iwlwifi && apt-get install iwlwifi" purging old and installing new. After reboot the "Recover Mode" is still asking for this file, so quessing this is being driven by the LiveDVD which should include the file, so maybe what I really need is the right LiveDVD .iso file.
[15:29] <TBotNik_> All help here appreciated.
[15:34] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: i need specifically a i386 version, otherwise a program dependant on it won't work. How do i tell make to build a i386 version?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> lolmaus, then look for the 32 bit version to compile
[15:37] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: oh
[15:37] <lolmaus> I didn't think of that.
[15:37] <lolmaus> Thank you BluesKaj
[15:39] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: nope, the libpng15 distro does not have i386/x64 versions.
[15:39] <BluesKaj> not x64 lolmaus just i386
[15:40] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: there's only one version. libpng-1.5.5.tar.gz I've already tried it with `./configure && make` and the app still won't work. Presumably, it's due to the fact that i'm building an x64 version and the program depends on an i386 version.
[15:41] <lolmaus> http://sourceforge.net/projects/libpng/files/libpng15/older-releases/1.5.5/
[15:49] <BluesKaj> lolmaus, have you tried installing libpng from the package manager or with apt-get , rather than compiling from source?
[15:49] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: there's no libpng15 in the repos, only libpng12. I've googled for PPAs or debs, but no luck.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> and why libpng15 ?
[15:50] <lolmaus> BluesKaj: the app that i want to launch was build against libpng15.
[15:50] <saiarcot895> lolmaus: where did you get the app?
[15:51] <lolmaus> saiarcot895: it's a tarballed binary package, downloaded from its official site: http://kag2d.com/en/download
[15:51] <lolmaus> There's a guy on the forums who claims to have resolved the issue by making an i386 build of libpng15.
[15:53] <BluesKaj> lolmaus, which kubuntu version are you on?
[15:53] <lolmaus> 14.10 64-bit (upgraded from 13.10)
[15:54] <BluesKaj> 14.10? are you serious
[15:54] <saiarcot895> BluesKaj: I don't think 14.10 even has a daily build yet
[15:54] <lolmaus> Ohh
[15:54] <BluesKaj> lolmaus, you mean 14.04 right?
[15:54] <lolmaus> Sorry. I'm on 14.04.
[15:55] <lolmaus> Have just been reading a news about 14.10 :)
[15:55] <saiarcot895> lolmaus: going into the Classic Download section gives you the source code
[15:55] <saiarcot895> lolmaus: compile from that
[15:55] <lordievader> saiarcot895: Repos are all that is available for 14.10.
[15:55] <lolmaus> saiarcot895: Classic is a different game.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> 14.10 only has a few packages available atm
[15:56] <BluesKaj> I'm running 14.10 on my test machine and nothing has really changed all that much from 14.04
[17:13] <BluesKaj> !steam
[17:13] <ubottu> Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion.
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[17:25] <RickK> Recently upgraded to 14.04 from a clean/fresh install of 13.10.  Now I get a boot error "error: malformed file   Press any key to continue..."  and I've lost the grub splash  screen.  an anyone tell me how to fix these problems (maybe related)? I've tried several suggestions I've found on the web, none worked and "boot-repair" left my PC unbootable. Had to re-install grub to get back to a bootable system.
[17:28] <rvdv> RickK: First, why would you first cleanly/freshly install 13.10 to then upgrade it to 14.04 ... why not just do a freshinstall of 14.04 ... when you do this now it probably will solve the problems quicker then to find out what went wrong with the update
[17:28] <rvdv> than*
[17:31] <BluesKaj> rvdv, I upgraded to 14.04 without a problem, but one needs to upgrade 13.10 packages to the latest avialble packages before upgrading to 14.04 by the 'net. Some users forget to do so and suffer from broken packages as a result.
[17:33] <rvdv> BluesKaj: I understand that. But to first do a fresh install of 13.10 to make an upgrade to 14.04 sounds strange to me
[17:33] <BluesKaj> RickK, try the recovery kernel in grub and / or the virtual terminal and login and update and upgrade from there
[17:34] <BluesKaj> rvdv, true
[17:38] <rvdv> I am aware that I not really sound helpfull, and my two cents would be to boot from a CD and try to use an rescue option at boot ... choose to chroot into the root partition and to do an grub-install /dev/sda (or what ever your boot device is)
[17:39] <rvdv> But I think a fresh reinstall of 14.04 will be easier for RickK.
[17:42] <BluesKaj> RickK, for using chroot to repair grub http://privatepaste.com/98994e2ccf
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[17:56] <RickK> Also did the live CD boot and then the chroot to repair grub. Still have the errors.
[17:56] <BluesKaj> RickK, best to do a clean install then
[17:57] <RickK> BluesKaj,  I had to use chroot to get my system back after the boot-repair left it totally hosed.
[17:57] <RickK> But I still have the error.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> it's quicj if you have / and /home partitions
[17:57] <RickK> Ok, thanks for the suggestions guys.
[17:57] <BluesKaj> a clean install that is
[17:58] <BluesKaj> RickK, do you have separate / and /home?
[17:59] <rvdv> yeah always good to have a sepperate homme partition ... with your personal stuff ... all software and things can always be re-installed ... your documents and pictures not
[17:59] <rvdv> seperate home partition*
[17:59] <RickK> No, but I do have seperate / and /boot. I also have an mdraid drive that was a PIA to setup but is working great now. No system files on it.
[18:00] <RickK> Docs and pics are on the raid drive, not /
[18:00] <rvdv> OK, good
[18:02] <BluesKaj> learned my lesson, so I always use / and /home, then use manual partitioning in ubiquity/installer, just install to / then set the /home mount point without formatting it and away you go
[18:02] <rvdv> Same here
[18:02] <BluesKaj> right
[18:03] <RickK> Ok, guess I have another busy weekend. Gonna go eat now. Thanks guys.
[18:03] <BluesKaj> ok RickK , goiod luck
[18:03] <RickK> Thanks.
[18:04] <alket> when I open usb-creator-kde I get this error: glib.variant('a{sv
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[18:13] <BluesKaj> alket, make sure usb boot is enabled in uefi/bios
[18:13] <alket> BluesKaj: i dont have problem with bootin but making a bootable usb
[18:14] <MikhailVladelin> hi , is there any kde app/widget to know my system configaratoins , i.e, which is my processor, what is my ram etc etc
[18:15] <BluesKaj> use the startup disk creator, alket
[18:16] <BluesKaj> MikhailVladelin, system settings>system admin>about system
[18:18] <nico__>  I am struggling with the group for programs started with the kickoff application launcher. Ideas? Details: http://paste.kde.org/pzzgyahuu
[18:29] <BluesKaj> nico__, is this a home pc? if so then using kmail etc is not necessary unless you have a large email database that needs saving, otherwise an ordinary email program like thunerbird is sufficient for most users, so akonadi and kmail can be disabled
[18:33] <nico__> BluesKa: It is a home notebook with a very large email archive. I use it for programming, business, etc. These questions are because of travelling overseas and a rather primitive environment.
[18:36] <BluesKaj> nico__, then add your wife to your usergroup in systemsettings>user manager
[18:36] <nico__> BluesKa: no, this would not be a good idea. Only when a specific program is opened (browser) then it should have internet acces
[18:38] <BluesKaj> then add her as a new user
[18:40] <nico__> BluesKa: She has a username. But the whole point is that I cannot add her in a group that has internet access. Then there would be unwelcome data traffic to/from the internet. So ONLY if specific applications are started (like kmail or rekonq), THEN the group should be change.
[18:40] <BluesKaj> this PIM app is something I don't use ...maybe I'm on the wrong track here, not really sure nico__ , sorry
[18:40] <nico__> BluesKa: No problem, it is a generic KDE question.
[18:41] <BluesKaj> nico__, ok suggest you ask in #kde
[18:41] <nico__> BluesKa: OK, thanks
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[19:08] <cai> Apr 26 14:58:27 amdfx6300 kernel: [43650.531067] AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=01:00.0 domain=0x0013 address=0x0000000000001000 flags=0x0000]
[19:08] <cai> My SSD keeps filling up with  monster syslog
[19:09] <cai> i'm amazed ubuntu is stupid enough to do this instead of rolling the log over
[19:11] <BluesKaj> cai, logrotate not working ?
[19:11] <cai> BluesKaj: it looks like it's not even on
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Make a symlink between /var/log and a directory on your hard drive, if you have one.
[19:48] <cai> DarthFrog: i redirected it to null because apparently my filter rules is "depreciated" and I don't want t learn new filter rules
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[21:15] <lts>  one of my friends have a HP laptop which have a graphics card AMD Radeon HD 6490M
[21:15] <lts>  when i write sensors in the konsol its come 86 c
[21:15] <lts> kubuntu 14.04
[21:15] <lts> any help
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[21:41] <lts>  one of my friends have a HP laptop which have a graphics card AMD Radeon HD 6490M
[21:41] <lts>  when i write sensors in the konsol its come 86 c
[21:41] <lts> kubuntu 14.04
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[22:00] <robotdevil> where muon
[22:01] <robotdevil> ...
[22:11] <soee> ?
[23:00] <amichair> hi, just upgraded to 14.04, got popup for updating video drivers and picked the recommended one (nvidia 331). But 'lshw -c video' shows driver=nvidia, 'modinfo nvidia' shows nothing, and both 'modinfo nvidia_331' and 'modinfo nouveau' show that they are installed. So which driver is really there?
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