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[02:04] <dougl> xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau but it is not installed - I installed nvidia drivers, how can I remove xserver-xorg-video-all ? |
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[02:05] <dougl> err can I |
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[02:05] <dougl> ? |
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[02:08] <Riddell> dougl: no X experts here, try asking in #kubuntu, #ubuntu or #ubuntu-x |
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[02:18] <dougl> Riddell, thanks :) |
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[03:57] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1298951] kwalletd crashed with SIGABRT in __GI_raise() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1298951 (by Gustavo Boksar) |
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[04:58] <Kalidarn> btw that issue with the device manager is still in KDE 4.12.97 |
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[05:04] <Kalidarn> is there some reason we are not using KDE 4.13 and are using betas of it? |
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[05:05] <Kalidarn> i was under the assumption KDE 4.12.X were betas of of KDE 4.13 |
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[05:10] <jussi> Kalidarn: isnt 4.13 planned for release next week? |
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[05:10] <jussi> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.13_Release_Schedule |
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[05:11] <Kalidarn> i was sure it was already released |
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[05:11] <Kalidarn> was sure i was using it in 3.10 with the backports kubuntu ppa |
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[05:11] <Kalidarn> i might have been imagining things |
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[05:12] <Kalidarn> if you have a phone or tablet |
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[05:12] <Kalidarn> when you plug it in do you see blank entries in the device manager |
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[05:12] <Kalidarn> or in dolphin |
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[05:12] <Kalidarn> i seem to with my nexus 5/nexus 7 |
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[05:12] <Kalidarn> they all seem to point to camera: |
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[05:14] <Kalidarn> i imagine this bug occurs with any type of phone or tablet |
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[05:17] <jussi> Kalidarn: I think we talked about this the other day, no? |
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[05:17] <jussi> did you try changing the desktop theme? |
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[05:19] <Kalidarn> yes we did |
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[05:19] <Kalidarn> and it's not the desktop theme (using oxygen at the moment) |
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[05:19] <Kalidarn> but same issue with air |
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[05:19] <jussi> Kalidarn: I dont know then - it works here on both 14.04 and 13.10 w/backports |
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[05:19] <Kalidarn> the devices also appear blank in dolphin |
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[05:20] <jussi> Kalidarn: have you checked that you have it in the correct mode on the tablet/phone? |
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[05:20] <jussi> ie. the storage one, not the camera one? |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> all i see in dmesg is |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.740116] usb 1-4: new high-speed USB device number 13 using ehci-pci |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.873358] usb 1-4: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=4ee2 |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.873363] usb 1-4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.873366] usb 1-4: Product: Nexus 5 |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.873368] usb 1-4: Manufacturer: LGE |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> [ 4884.873371] usb 1-4: SerialNumber: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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[05:21] <Kalidarn> oops :P |
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[05:22] <Kalidarn> all 3 seem to open to camera: 3 |
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[05:22] <Kalidarn> camera: |
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[05:24] <Kalidarn> http://i.imgur.com/x1rTKFv.png |
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[05:24] <Kalidarn> looks really ugly and i'd like to try to find out what is causing it so it can be fixed for final release |
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[05:24] <Kalidarn> never happened with 3.10 |
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[05:25] <Kalidarn> unfortunately i don't know what's causing it |
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[05:26] <jussi> Kalidarn: so did you check the device setting, as I mentioned? |
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[05:26] <Kalidarn> which one? |
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[05:26] <Kalidarn> i might have missed that |
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[05:26] <jussi> mtp/camera |
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[05:26] <valorie> interesting: my htc one phone has two devices reported: camera, and then the phone |
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[05:27] <Kalidarn> jussi: how do i check it? |
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[05:27] <valorie> but no blanks |
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[05:27] <Kalidarn> they both seem to open up to the same place |
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[05:28] <Kalidarn> the named one opens up to mtp: > Nexus 5 |
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[05:28] <Kalidarn> the un named ones open up to Camera: |
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[05:29] <Kalidarn> and inside camera: there's a directory called "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB) |
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[05:29] <Kalidarn> with a store_000100001 directory in it |
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[05:29] <jussi> Kalidarn: when you connect the device, it should have a usb icon on the device pulldown. touch it, then choose mtp |
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[05:29] <Kalidarn> that seems to contain two text files about.txt and summary.txt |
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[05:30] <Kalidarn> jussi: i'm unsure what you mean |
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[05:31] <jussi> Kalidarn: plug in the usb. what appears in top corner of the nexus 5 screen |
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[05:31] <Kalidarn> oh |
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[05:31] <Kalidarn> yep |
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[05:31] <Kalidarn> hmm |
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[05:31] <Kalidarn> one of the hidden things went away when i disabled usb debugging ;) |
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[05:31] <jussi> pull down, click, make sure ownly mtp is selected |
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[05:32] <Kalidarn> ah yes MTP is only checked |
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[05:32] <Kalidarn> PTP is not |
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[05:32] <Kalidarn> after disabling usb debugging though it now only shows one blank entry |
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[05:33] <Kalidarn> the named one "Nexus 5" shows mtp: > Nexus 5 in dolphin |
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[05:33] <Kalidarn> and then a drive called "Internal Storage" |
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[05:33] <Kalidarn> that directs to /sdcard/ |
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[05:34] <Kalidarn> the blank looking one (which there's only 1 of now) shows camera: and shows the "Google Inc (for LG Electronics/Samsung) Nexus 4/5/6/10 (MTP+ADB)" directory |
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[05:35] <jussi> Kalidarn: I suspect its a developer mode somethign |
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[05:36] <Kalidarn> possibly. |
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[05:36] <Kalidarn> i disabled developer mode completely and it still shows a blank one |
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[05:37] * jussi goes back to work |
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[05:45] <jussi> apachelogger: http://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/choose-your-own-experience-this-time-its-for-real/ - see, this is what I was talking about in Munich :D |
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[05:46] <jussi> mind, was funny that they first put it as april fools joke, then made a real one |
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[06:39] <lordievader> Good morning. |
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[06:57] <apachelogger> jussi: that'd be in voilation of our own UX practises |
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[06:57] <apachelogger> namely the "dont-get-in-the-way-of-the-user" one |
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[06:57] <jussi> :( |
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[08:01] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it would appear to me that we need an explicit dep from whatever contains startkde to qdbus-qt4 | qdbus-qt5 |
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[08:02] <apachelogger> or not |
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[08:02] <apachelogger> it's still fishy |
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[08:02] <jussi> who here was using kmail on 13.10 ? |
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[08:02] <apachelogger> for some reason I had qt5-default but not qdbus-qt5 installed |
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[08:56] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: nothing depends on qdbus-qt5 |
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[08:57] <apachelogger> yeah |
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[08:57] <apachelogger> wouldn't have helped anyway if it's either or |
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[08:57] <apachelogger> you still can have the default config installed for qt5 but no qdbus-qt5 |
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[08:58] <apachelogger> so it will qtchoose 5 but there is no binary there and then boom |
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[09:03] <ghostcube> o.O http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA linus getting pissed eh? |
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[09:04] <apachelogger> high quality article, complete with typo and everything |
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[09:06] <ghostcube> dont be always so negativ apachelogger :D |
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[09:06] <apachelogger> but it is the truth |
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[09:07] <ghostcube> it is but the copy and paste parts are funny |
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[09:08] <apachelogger> *shrug* |
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[09:08] <apachelogger> always with the drama. |
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[09:09] <shadeslayer> hi |
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[09:09] <shadeslayer> morning |
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[09:09] <shadeslayer> forgot those two ^^ :P |
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[09:11] <ghostcube> :D |
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[09:37] <Mamarok> and mu0on still buggy, it again doesn't show a single package when filtering in the "All" part, and the xapian is up-to-date... |
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[09:37] <Mamarok> also, baloo-something is crashing repeatedly and now kde pim doesn't start anymore |
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[09:38] <Mamarok> and it doesn't update my notes, which luckily I completely backed up before re-trying Kontact... |
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[09:38] <Mamarok> but right now I can't access them because of kontact... |
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[09:38] <Mamarok> which sucks big time, I rely on these notes |
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[09:39] <vHanda> Mamarok: backtrace? |
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[09:39] <vHanda> for baloo |
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[09:40] <Mamarok> vHanda: sent by apport to launchpad, repeatedly the bug there already exists with multiple dupes |
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[09:40] <vHanda> could I have a link? It's probably been fixed, but just to be sure. |
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[09:40] * apachelogger suspects that baloo is not watched by kubuntu-bugs |
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[09:40] * apachelogger suspects that if that is the case someone will get pissed off |
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[09:41] <Mamarok> oh well, I have to digg that up apparently, can't you look in launchpad? Same effort |
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[09:41] <vHanda> nevermind. |
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[09:41] <apachelogger> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baloo |
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[09:42] <vHanda> cool. Thanks. Fixed. |
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[09:44] <apachelogger> oh |
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[09:44] <apachelogger> there's more |
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[09:44] <apachelogger> marked private |
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[09:44] <apachelogger> most pointless feature in the world |
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[09:44] <Mamarok> why are thioes marked private? That is stupid |
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[09:44] <Mamarok> can't that be turned off by default for all our bugs |
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[09:45] <Mamarok> ? |
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[09:45] <apachelogger> sudo baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2() |
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[09:45] <apachelogger> gee |
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[09:45] <Mamarok> yep, that bug |
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[09:45] <apachelogger> vHanda: bug 1301742 |
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[09:45] <ubottu> bug 1301742 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in size()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301742 |
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[09:45] <apachelogger> Mamarok: apport randomly marks bugs private or maybe it's the reporters |
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[09:45] <apachelogger> no clue |
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[09:45] <Mamarok> also I am happy to mention that I had my HD filled up again with baloo, such a change from nepomuk |
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[09:46] <Mamarok> very funny if you can't work anymore because your disk is full... |
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[09:46] <apachelogger> vHanda: bug 1300413 |
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[09:46] <ubottu> bug 1300413 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1300413 |
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[09:46] <apachelogger> vHanda: bug 1298873 |
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[09:46] <ubottu> bug 1298873 in baloo (Ubuntu) "baloo_file crashed with SIGABRT in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1298873 |
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[09:46] <apachelogger> that's all |
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[09:46] <Mamarok> and sorry if I didn't report this before, I only decided yesterday to retry KDE PIM, based on good comments everywhere... |
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[09:47] <Mamarok> apparently still not my cup of tea... |
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[09:53] * Mamarok just added a comment to bug 1301192 |
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[09:53] <ubottu> bug 1301192 in amarok (Ubuntu) "transition from gst0.10 to gst1.0 phonon backend incomplete" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1301192 |
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[09:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: ^ upstream is starting to get unhappy |
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[09:55] <Mamarok> starting is an euphemisms, to be honest, we already have a list of reports for that bug upstream |
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[09:55] <Mamarok> euphemism* |
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[09:56] <apachelogger> as long as we do unprepared library transitions a month before release the world is in order |
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[09:58] <Mamarok> :) |
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[09:58] <Mamarok> well, at least we have something we can point people at |
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[10:07] <vHanda> Mamarok: disk is full because of Baloo? Because of these crash reports? |
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[10:45] <Mamarok> vHanda: I am still trying to find out what filled up the disk exactly, but it all started with me starting KDE PIM |
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[10:46] <vHanda> let me know if it turns out to be Baloo. I've put in a lot of effort to make sure it is not like Nepomuk. |
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[10:47] <Mamarok> well, it has position.DB file of 0,7 GB, a bit big, isn't that? |
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[10:48] <Mamarok> also, where can I choose what to index? |
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[10:49] <Mamarok> nvm, found it |
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[11:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all |
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[11:35] <Mamarok> vHanda: I found the culprit, it was a ~./.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/ folder with a total of 78 GB! |
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[11:35] <Mamarok> shoudln't there be no more nepomuk? |
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[11:39] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, just did an upgrade and saw some nepomuk lib files being upgraded, guess baloo is still using them. |
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[11:40] <Mamarok> well, just starting Kontact again after several months of no use, I ended up with over 70 GB filling up my hard disk in no time |
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[11:41] <BluesKaj> with email data? |
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[11:41] <Mamarok> I didn't even check if there was any data, I deleted the complete folder |
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[11:42] <Mamarok> so I could at least reuse my computer |
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[11:43] <Mamarok> and apparently that also fixed the muon isuse, now the search works again, so it was a space problem |
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[11:43] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, are you using akonadi and kmail as well ? |
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[11:44] <Mamarok> well, that is how everything started, I wanted to try kontact again, and ended up with having a full HD |
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[11:44] <jussi> kmail gets much faster when you switch the akonadi backend to postgres |
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[11:46] * BluesKaj avoids akonadi and kmail |
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[11:50] <kdeuser56> jussi: which release are you on? |
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[11:50] <jussi> kdeuser56: 13.10 with ppa |
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[11:50] <kdeuser56> BluesKaj: no reason to do so |
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[11:50] <kdeuser56> jussi: does it work out of the box? |
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[11:50] <jussi> kdeuser56: does what work out of the box? |
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[11:51] <kdeuser56> jussi: the postgres akonadi backend |
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[11:51] <jussi> kdeuser56: it appears to... |
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[11:51] <jussi> I clicked switch, then restart and kmail works, only faster |
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[11:51] <kdeuser56> jussi: are you using internal postgres server? |
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[11:52] <jussi> kdeuser56: yes |
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[11:52] <kdeuser56> jussi: and you simply switched the backend ... what happened to the data? |
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[12:10] <sgclark> Riddell: good morning, any tasks for me today? |
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[12:14] <Riddell> sgclark: well you could look at what's up with solid here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kf5-status/build_status_4.98.0_trusty.html |
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[12:14] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1299920] defaulting to qt5 does not work siunce QT_SELECT=qt4 is in the environment by default. @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1299920 (by Søren Holm) |
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[12:14] <Riddell> sgclark: but it's very weird and I really have no idea |
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[12:14] <sgclark> Riddell: I will take a look |
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[12:15] <Riddell> "The following files are already published in Kubuntu Experimental: |
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[12:15] <Riddell> qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_amd64.deb" |
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[12:15] <Riddell> sgclark: it compiles fine but then fails to upload |
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[12:15] <Riddell> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/171639075/upload_5874921_log.txt |
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[12:15] <Riddell> is something nutty happening like it making that binary twice? |
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[12:18] <vHanda> BluesKaj: there is a nepomukbaloomigrator which runs once. It migrates all the tags, ratings and config files |
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[12:18] <vHanda> you can kill it and disable it if you don't care about the migration |
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[12:18] <sgclark> Riddell: indeed weird |
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[12:18] <vHanda> it's the only reason you need the nepomuk-core package |
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[12:21] <kdeuser56> vHanda: did you have a look into https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332686 ? |
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[12:22] <ubottu> KDE bug 332686 in Files "baloo_file_extractor crashed with SIGSEGV in getint2()" [Crash,Unconfirmed] |
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[12:23] <vHanda> kdeuser56: yes, but I cannot say if it has been fixed since I cannot reproduce it. |
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[12:23] <vHanda> I've pushed a number of changes, which should fix it. |
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[12:23] <BluesKaj> vHanda, i don't have baloo enabled, don't need it. |
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[12:23] <sgclark> Riddell: build log only shows one created, this is very odd |
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[12:23] <vHanda> ok |
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[12:27] <kdeuser56> vHanda: great!, thanks, I will see if it happens again |
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[12:28] <kdeuser56> vHanda: which release should the fixes be in? |
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[12:31] <sgclark> Riddell: changes only lists one... the only thing I can think to do is change ppa5 to ppa4, you went from ppa3 to ppa5 |
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[12:59] <Riddell> sgclark: I got this reject e-mail |
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[12:59] <Riddell> "qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0_4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5_i386.deb: Version older than that in the archive. |
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[12:59] <Riddell> +4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa5 <= 4.98.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa6 " |
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[12:59] <Riddell> and for the ~ppa3 upload I got a reject e-mail saying ~ppa4 was in the archive |
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[12:59] <Riddell> I think launchpad is going nuts |
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[13:00] <shadeslayer_> wgrant_: ^ |
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[13:01] <Riddell> oh, it's coming from kdeclarative |
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[13:01] <Riddell> wgrant_: it may be me who's going mad not launchpad |
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[13:01] <Riddell> that's what happens if you stay up until 04:30 |
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[13:02] <sgclark> Riddell: figure it out? |
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[13:02] <Riddell> sgclark: I think I messed up kdeclarative which also made the solid package |
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[13:03] <Riddell> qtdeclarative5-kf5solid-5.0 |
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[13:03] <sgclark> Riddell: ahhh |
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[13:03] <Riddell> should be qtdeclarative5-kf5declarative-5.0 |
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[13:03] <Riddell> sgclark: could you check and fix that? |
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