2014/03/22/#kubuntu.txt

[00:49] <TheShagg> Hey all, I just installed kubuntu in a virtualbox environment with 8 gb of space and my home folder has 0 bytes of space and using it is nearly impossible
[00:49] <TheShagg> whats the best course of action to fix this
[00:50] <TheShagg> any ideas?
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[00:59] <TheShagg> *sigh*... no idea how this file system is layed out
[01:03] <Roey> hey how do I install kickoff
[01:03] <Roey> ?
[01:44] <yruss> Lol This channel is as dead as death.  :)
[01:46] <TheShagg> yes it is
[01:46] <TheShagg> why does hitting right ctrl + f8 act very badly
[01:58] <TheShagg> how the heck do I use multiple desktops
[02:01] <roney> TheShagg, what do you mean?
[02:01] <roney> switching between them?
[02:02] <TheShagg> i remember when I used to use linux there was a nice icon with a grid of 4 workspaces
[02:02] <roney> unlock your widgets then add the pager widget to your task bar
[02:02] <roney> that's it
[02:03] <TheShagg> how would a person know this?
[02:03] <roney> also, you can switch between multiple desktop by pressing ctrl+f<number of your desktop>
[02:03] <roney> well, I know
[02:03] <TheShagg> i see, when I search "desktop" it doesnt show up - only a bunch of lame crap
[02:03] <TheShagg> but when i search the plural form, it shows up
[02:04] <roney> not that, by default you kde comes with a single desktop enable
[02:04] <roney> enabled
[02:04] <roney> go to system settings to add more
[02:16] <TheShagg> roney: they sure hide that setting well
[02:16] <TheShagg> cant find it
[02:17] <roney> Workspace Behavior > Virtual Desktops
[02:17] <roney> I guess that's how it is in english.
[02:18] <TheShagg> yeah, thanks
[02:19] <TheShagg> i appreciate the help
[02:20] <roney> you're welcome
[03:05] <sledge> hey guys i have a problem with muon software manager
[03:07] <roney> which problem?
[03:07] <sledge> well
[03:08] <sledge> it says Could not download packages
[03:08] <sledge> whenever i try to update
[03:08] <roney> try changing your mirrors
[03:08] <sledge> mirrors? what you mean the source list?
[03:10] <roney> sledge, yes. I mean the server you're currently downloading from.
[03:10] <roney> sledge, or try to upate from the command line and see what happens.
[03:11] <sledge> sudo apt-get install update???
[03:11] <roney> that will just update your sources list
[03:11] <roney> but it helps
[03:11] <roney> do that and see what happens
[03:12] <sledge> what should i change it to
[03:13] <sledge> ive already tried that
[03:13] <sledge> several times
[03:13] <valorie> I always do `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[03:14] <TheShagg> i know this is probably a dumb request, but im trying to run nexuiz and my kubuntu is in a virtualbox, but it won't properly work with the mouse
[03:14] <TheShagg> otherwise everything looks like it should work
[03:14] <roney> TheShagg, running VirtualBox?
[03:14] <TheShagg> nexuiz inside kubuntu inside virtualbox
[03:15] <roney> If so, download its extra addons for better integration and mouse support.
[03:15] <TheShagg> it had the integration working right out of the box
[03:15] <roney> You sure?
[03:15] <roney> Did you download the addons?
[03:16] <TheShagg> well, the mouse is automatically captured
[03:16] <sledge> hm
[03:16] <sledge> TheShagg, do you have guest additions
[03:16] <roney> sledge, That's what I'm asking him.
[03:16] <TheShagg> i thought that was one of the major things guest additions does
[03:17] <roney> TheShagg, question is: do you have it or not?
[03:17] <TheShagg> im trying to find out
[03:17] <TheShagg> but nothing is easy with a new OS
[03:17] <TheShagg> like where the heck is the CD drive
[03:17] <TheShagg> bah
[03:18] <roney> TheShagg, you can check that from VirtualBox itself.
[03:18] <roney> Though I don't remember where exactly.
[03:20] <TheShagg> really?
[03:20] <TheShagg> wtf, why cant you run shell scripts from dolphin
[03:21] <roney> You can. But that's not the default behavior.
[03:22] <roney> Context Menu > Properties > Permissions
[03:22] <roney> Then mark it as executable.
[03:23] <TheShagg> it was executable
[03:23] <TheShagg> but when you right click, there is no execute anywhere
[03:24] <roney> Do as I said. Go to the permissions tab then mark it as executable.
[03:24] <roney> To run it you just have to click.
[03:25] <roney> Click on it after it has been marked.
[03:25] <TheShagg> fine, but the menu is still stupid
[03:26] <TheShagg> well i ran the autorun script for vbox additions
[03:26] <TheShagg> it seemed to run without error
[03:27] <roney> everything installed?
[03:27] <TheShagg> I have no idea how I would know that
[03:27] <TheShagg> lol
[03:28] <roney> Well. The installer is a graphical tool with a progress bar and such.
[03:28] <TheShagg> mine wasnt
[03:29] <roney> Then you're doing it wrong. :-)
[03:29] <TheShagg> well, mounting the iso did nothing
[03:29] <TheShagg> so i navigated to autorun.sh and ran it
[03:30] <TheShagg> and now dolphin appears to be popping up off screen
[03:30] <TheShagg> lol
[03:32] <TheShagg> apparently i have dual monitors setup
[03:32] <TheShagg> and its just now working well at all
[03:32] <roney> nice
[03:32] <TheShagg> yay and now its in a video mode that is hiding the controls for vbox
[03:33] <roney> change your resolution then
[03:33] <roney> the thing with guest additions is that it will find the right resolution for your screen
[03:33] <roney> just as an example
[03:34] <roney> however, if you're facing such a problem, then guest additions is not installed apparently
[03:34] <TheShagg> i guess i needed to hit ctrl+c
[03:34] <TheShagg> hitting ctrl+h forced a shutdown
[03:34] <TheShagg> wtf
[03:34] <roney> it used to be quite easy for me.
[03:34] <roney> but I won't install virtualbox just to tell you how to do that
[03:36] <roney> TheShagg, install virtualbox-guest-x11
[03:36] <roney> may help you increase graphics performance
[03:36] <TheShagg> well i need to get a mouse pointer really
[03:37] <roney> What's your host OS?
[03:37] <TheShagg> win7
[03:37] <roney> meh
[03:37] <TheShagg> i just dont have the mouse pointer in the game
[03:37] <TheShagg> i have it in kubuntu just fine
[03:37] <TheShagg> and its really annoying when you cant exit the game
[03:37] <TheShagg> is there a trick for that?
[03:38] <roney> Did you enable VirtualBox 3D acceleration?
[03:38] <TheShagg> yes
[03:39] <TheShagg> well i cant do anything until i get the game to close
[03:39] <TheShagg> ok i was able to tab through options
[03:40] <roney> as a last resource, you may try to install VirtualBox Extension Pack
[03:40] <roney> Available here: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[03:43]  * roney goes to sleep
[03:43] <roney> bye you all!
[03:44] <TheShagg> bah, muon searching for gcc returns nothing
[03:44] <TheShagg> how stupid
[03:47] <valorie> TheShagg: the muon package manager gets it
[03:47] <TheShagg> what do you mean
[03:47] <TheShagg> im in muon, i search gcc, it finds 2 unrelated things
[03:47] <valorie> muon discover doesn't find it though
[03:47] <TheShagg> yes, that is what i said
[03:47] <valorie> probably because it isn't labeled as an application
[03:48] <valorie> I usually use the muon package manager
[03:48] <valorie> or just `apt-cache search`
[03:48] <valorie> which is quicker
[03:48] <valorie> !info gcc
[03:48] <ubottu> gcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.122ubuntu3)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.8.1-2ubuntu3 (saucy), package size 5 kB, installed size 41 kB
[03:48] <valorie> hehe
[03:49] <valorie> or cheat!
[06:27] <nlsthzn> hi, kubuntu 14.04 and see that foreign characters are showing up us blocks (specifically in Clementine music player)... what am I missing?
[06:43] <valorie> nlsthzn: you are about the third person I've heard report that
[06:43] <valorie> including one of the kubuntu devels
[06:44] <valorie> you might write to the devel list and put a link to a screenshot
[06:44] <valorie> I don't think they know enough yet for you to file a bug
[06:47] <nlsthzn> ah ok... this is a recent development too... I installed last week and it was fine... installed this from latest daily yesterday and it is like this
[06:47] <valorie> yup, just showed up, but there are so few reports yet
[06:47] <valorie> they haven't pinned down a cause to start on a fix
[07:07] <nlsthzn> mail sent
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[07:25] <valorie> thank you, nlsthzn
[07:26] <nlsthzn> np, hope it helps... as it helps me too :)
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[08:32] <alphacrypt> a
[08:32] <alphacrypt> sorry
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[09:23] <lordievader> Good morning.
[11:01] <Trudko> guys i have weird error on ubuntu when install gem rails http://pastie.org/8958662 if I do ruby -v it returns 1.9.3 not sure when 1.9.1 came from
[11:03] <Trudko> ou so installing ruby 1.9.1-dev worked for some reason no  idea why
[11:16] <pramiti>  http://pastebin.com/iiBseHQm i am getting this error while installing kdelibs5-dev
[11:16] <pramiti>  i read this is beacuse of conflict between kdelibs5-dev and pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[11:16] <pramiti> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-dev_4%3a4.12.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.4~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack):  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/preparetips', which is also in package pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5
[11:17] <pramiti> i removed kdelibs5-dev package and tried to install again.. still same problem
[11:17] <pramiti> please help
[11:23] <kdeuser56> pramiti: did you sudo apt-get update?
[11:24] <kdeuser56> pramiti: do you have any ppas?
[11:25] <pramiti> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports yes i have ppas
[11:25] <pramiti> i used it to install kde pim
[11:27] <pramiti> yes i did sudp apt-get update..
[11:27] <pramiti> shoukd i try sudo apt-get distro-update ?
[11:36] <kdeuser56> pramiti: yes of course. which ubuntu version are you on?
[11:36] <pramiti> ubuntu 12.04 lts
[11:37] <kdeuser56> pramiti: do dist-upgrade, see if the conflict is still present, if yes, tell me, or report directly on #kubuntu-devel
[11:37] <pramiti> upgrade or update ?
[11:37] <kdeuser56> pramiti: how many versions are your installed packages back?
[11:38] <pramiti> which packages ? kdelibs5-dev ?
[11:38] <kdeuser56> pramiti: in general, all ones ...
[11:39] <pramiti> n how to tell ?
[11:39] <kdeuser56> pramiti: dist-upgrade and see what it wants to upgrade
[11:40] <kdeuser56> pramiti: but I can't help you in a competent way here, because I do not maintain backports ppa and I do not use 12.04
[11:40] <kdeuser56> pramiti: before you screw your system, please ask Riddell, yofel, or shadeslayer, or someone on #kubuntu-devel
[11:40] <pramiti> http://pastebin.com/itnHftAq
[11:41] <pramiti> ohh so i shouldnt do dist-upgrade ?
[11:41] <kdeuser56> pramiti: no really necessary
[11:42] <kdeuser56> pramiti: those packages wont change anything
[11:42] <pramiti> ohh.. so are they online ? wen they come on irc
[11:42] <kdeuser56> pramiti: please paste output of "sudo apt-get install kdelibs5-dev"
[11:52] <pnunn> ++++++
[11:52] <pnunn> +
[12:06] <pramiti> kdeuser56: http://pastebin.com/AjTY6JED
[12:19] <kdeuser56> pramiti: try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/fix-dpkg-error-trying-to-overwrite-x.html
[12:21] <kdeuser56> pramiti: I do not take any responsibility for this, but you could try (on your own risk): sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5-dev_4%3a4.12.3-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.4~ppa1_i386.deb && sudo apt-get install -f
[12:23] <pramiti> kdeuser56: should i wait then ?
[12:23] <kdeuser56> pramiti: it's your decision, but it does not look like you need to inform the mentioned people, because it is not a package conflict imho
[12:24] <kdeuser56> pramiti:  but the command I pasted will simply force to overwrite the file, that held the install of kdelibs-dev
[12:25] <pramiti> kdeuser56: ok then i m trying
[12:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:25] <kdeuser56> pramiti: I would go for it, if something unexpected happens, simply reinstall pkg-kde-tools 0.14.2ubuntu5 and force overwrite there too and you should have the initial version of the conflicting files
[12:27] <kdeuser56> pramiti: alternatively you can simply make a backup of /usr/bin/preparetips, which is the conflicting file ... (
[12:28] <kdeuser56> pramiti: the conflicting file is nothing dramatic, just a perl script responsible for translations if I got that right
[12:30] <pramiti> how to check if kdelibs5-dev is installed
[12:31] <kdeuser56> pramiti: did it exit sucessfully?
[12:32] <kdeuser56> pramiti: simply type: sudo apt-get install  kdelibs5-dev .... if it says already at newest version, nothing to do you have installed it ;-)
[12:32] <pramiti> yes :)
[12:32] <kdeuser56> pramiti: alright, then everything should work now :-)
[12:33] <pramiti> ok  thanks :)
[12:45] <gunar> hello
[12:46] <gunar> can i ask a question?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hi gunar, yes ask away :)
[12:46] <gunar> i am new with kubuntu and it does not poweroff correct, can you help me?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> gunar, laptop or desktop?
[12:47] <gunar> i have to push my power button for like 5 seconds to poweroff notebook
[12:47] <gunar> notebook
[12:49] <BluesKaj> gunar, have you updated and upgraded since installing kubuntu?
[12:50] <gunar> no
[12:50] <gunar> or i am not sure, i tried to update
[12:51] <BluesKaj> did you use the muon package manager?
[12:51] <gunar> no
[12:51] <BluesKaj> terminal?
[12:51] <gunar> oh, no terminal
[12:51] <gunar> i am not familiar with it
[12:52] <gunar> i guess it was the muon packet manager
[12:54] <gunar> it is updating now
[12:59] <yofel> kdeuser56: the next time something like this comes up it would be nice if you or the reporter filed a bug on https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ - this time I'll take care of it without one
[13:00] <kdeuser56> yofel: oh sorry, thought it was just a local conflict ...
[13:01] <kdeuser56> yofel: will do it better next time
[13:03] <yofel> hard to tell sometimes, here it's apt not knowing that it has to upgrade pkg-kde-tools before kdelibs5-dev, which has to be set in the packaging. As the packages are from the PPA we can fix it
[13:03] <BluesKaj> yofel evem
[13:03] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:03] <BluesKaj> yofel, even after kwin upgrades,
[13:05] <BluesKaj> I'm still having screen blanking issues if i try to use OpenGL and raster, thinking it could be the intel i915 graphics driver
[13:05] <kdeuser56> yofel: btw, I have fixed the icon alignment in kmix: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/115408/
[13:06] <yofel> kdeuser56: sweet! thanks
[13:06] <kdeuser56> yofel: oh wrong one :D https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116974/
[13:07] <yofel> BluesKaj: I'm really not a graphics expert, if you think it's the driver and not kde #ubuntu-x might be able to figure out what to file a bug againt
[13:07] <BluesKaj> xrender and native work fine, but it's disappointing to have to forgo the few desktop effects that I use.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> yofel, yes I will after doing some more research if <i don'
[13:08] <BluesKaj> t come up with a fix
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[14:44] <kalib> Hello guys, just updated my Kuuntu and now my flash stoped working. Any tip?
[14:46] <soee> kalib: in Firefox  ?
[14:46] <kalib> soee: just tested on chromium
[14:47] <kalib> why?
[14:47] <soee> kalib: for chromium you might want to install pepper
[14:47] <kalib> soee: apt-get install peper?
[14:47] <soee> kalib: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pepper-flash-player-installer-for.html
[14:48] <kalib> when I tried apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[14:49] <kalib> I got an error saying that it's impossible to find this package
[14:50] <BluesKaj> soee, that's for 14.04 tho, dunno if it will work for kalib
[14:51] <kalib> BluesKaj: 14.04? But that's a dev version, right? We're at 13.10
[14:51] <soee> oh kalib and what Kubnutu version are you running ?
[14:52] <soee> ah :)
[14:52] <BluesKaj> kalib, yes exactly , there might be one for 13.10, but it's most likely a ppa
[14:52] <soee> kalib: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[14:53] <soee> its available for saucy https://launchpad.net/~skunk/+archive/pepper-flash?field.series_filter=saucy
[14:54] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:55] <kalib> let me try your first link..
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[15:13] <aljosa> i've tried "do-release-upgrade -d" but it failed. are there any logs somewhere or a way how i can upgrade to 14.04?
[15:15] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[15:15] <kalib> soee: worked. thanks
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[15:17] <soee> aljosa: failed with some error  ?
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[15:24] <aljosa> soee: "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
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[15:31] <BluesKaj> aljosa, make sure you update and upgrade before doing the release-upgrade
[15:32] <aljosa> BluesKaj: did that. i'm now removing all PPAs
[15:33] <BluesKaj> yes aljosa, sometimes the ppas will interfere , altho they aren't supposed to do so.
[15:40] <aljosa> where can i find what was by default in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> aljosa, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[15:50] <aljosa> thanks
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[16:10] <snele> BluesKaj:  I beleive these problems come from new sna acceleration method (which seems to be still buggy)
[16:10] <snele> change it to uxa in xorg.conf
[16:10] <snele> Option "AccelMethod" "uxa"
[16:11] <snele> many users still have problems with sna acceleration
[16:24] <BluesKaj> snele, i found this altho it's for arch, I/m going to give it a try https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_Graphics
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[16:35] <kubuntutester> Hi there, I'm just trying Quassel on Kubuntu 14.04 (daily-snapshot) right now :)
[16:36] <kubuntutester> does anybody know of a better QT4 scanner application than Skanlite? I'm looking for somthing that can scan & print, as well as save a scan as PDF
[16:42] <TheLancerb1> I'm having problems running certain programs on Kubuntu 4.8.5 mostly Dolphin and Gwenview.
[16:42] <TheLancerb1> They take around ~30secs to start up, and after the 30secs no window shows up. They also disappear from the taskbar after the 30secs, but they are still running when I check System Activity.
[16:43] <TheLancerb1> The problem began probably 30 minutes ago.
[16:46] <TheLancerb1> Also Kontact and KOrganizer are having the same issue as Dolphin and Gwenview.
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[18:07] <snele> BluesKaj: did "uxa" fixed your problems?
[18:09] <snele> BluesKaj: I don't know does arch instructions work in kubuntu
[18:10] <snele> how to make xorg.conf in kubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4662/where-is-the-x-org-config-file-how-do-i-configure-x-there
[18:10] <snele> and then you should change "sna" to "uxa" in xorg.conf
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[18:40] <Scunizi> up
[18:43] <BluesKaj> snele, I'm going to stick with sna fo now, since I'm running a dev OS Kubuntu 14.04, assuming the problem will fixed by the time the OS is officially released. it runs fine with xrender/native settings
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[18:59] <ndeeprose1> hello
[19:01] <ndeeprose1> hi doug
[19:01] <ndeeprose1> hi ksinny
[19:11] <serranellus> hi, I have a simple question: Is Kubuntu slower then Xubuntu?
[19:12] <serranellus> I'm going to install one of them...
[19:14] <qdata> serranellus: that is a somewhat 'loaded' question - the slower/faster question depends.....
[19:15] <qdata> the main difference between the two is not the underlying operating system part of the distro, but rather which desktop
[19:15] <qdata> one is xfce and the other is kde
[19:15] <serranellus> I could imagine, however with 512 mb of ram which one would you choose?
[19:15] <serranellus> thx
[19:16] <qdata> there is your crux - for older slower hardware with small ram xfce might be a better choice
[19:16] <serranellus> ok, thanks a lot
[19:17] <qdata> I haven't used xfce in a very long time, and sporadically when I did was just to try it out
[19:17] <qdata> kde is a more full-fledged/ full blown desktop than xfce and I prefer KDE
[19:17] <lordievader> serranellus: I think KDE is a bit more resource hungry than XFCE.
[19:17] <qdata> +1 to that
[19:17] <serranellus> I did recently and the performances were great
[19:19] <qdata> if you run latest high performance hardware you will notice less of a difference in subjectively perceived "speed"
[19:19] <serranellus> but mysteriously Xubuntu did not playback any video file
[19:20] <qdata> for example my mom's old atom n450 based netbook runs better with lubuntu (LXDE desktop)
[19:20] <serranellus> where on the same device Ubuntu worked more slowly but flawlessly
[19:20] <serranellus> On mine Lubuntu doesn't work at all: black screen!
[19:21] <qdata> these are video-hardware related problems
[19:22] <qdata> the nvidia blob binary is much faster than the nouveau open source driver
[19:22] <qdata> same for fglrx vs radeonhd
[19:22] <serranellus> But it shows that the DE is not the only difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[19:23] <qdata> if you don't have 3d accelerated hardware plus one of these your desktop will be slow
[19:23] <serranellus> Let's try Kubuntu now!
[19:23] <lordievader> The core of all Ubuntu flavours should be the same.
[19:24] <qdata> the reason is the widget set toolkits that make the things like the corner of a window box, etc use the 3d accel in hardware - without that it falls back to software/CPU based rendering
[19:24] <serranellus> yes but belive me: on xubuntu I had no video playback support at all, even if on firefox I could watch anything in streaming
[19:25] <serranellus> On Ubuntu all video files were reproducted without problems
[19:26] <serranellus> Thank you, qdata, and "see" you again!
[19:26] <qdata> I don't have any direct experience currently with xfce, but it sounds like you're missing some the restricted codecs/libdvdcss and related stuff
[19:26] <qdata> you should be able to get video playback on xfce - not aware of any real reason why it shouldn't
[19:27] <serranellus> No, no! Xubuntu restricted extras and extras addons were installed
[19:27] <qdata> kde is happier with a gig or 2 of ram
[19:27] <qdata> 512MB is a tad tight
[19:28] <qdata> while you're poking around you might look at LXDE too
[19:28] <qdata> for comparison purposes
[19:29] <qdata> serranellus: at any rate best wishes and good luck in yout endeavors!   :-)
[19:30] <serranellus> Ok, thanks again! bb
[19:30] <lordievader> Erm qdata: 22-20:20 < serranellus> On mine Lubuntu doesn't work at all: black screen!
[19:30] <lordievader> Although I suppose that could be fixable, but hey if Kubuntu works, why bother.
[19:32] <bprompt> if it ain't broken, don't fix it :P
[19:34] <qdata> lordievader: I think the black screen thing could be fixed, but if in try it out/test mode easier to look for something that "Just Works"
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[19:52] <Guest12810> hi
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[21:37] <venom> Hai
[21:37] <venom> man this is dead
[21:45] <Roey> Hi. I'm trying to install the NVidia 334.21 drivers on my Kubuntu 14.04 system.  It seems to install ok, though it does mention before it started compiling compilation.  In KDE, I see that I can't get the OpenGL-based Desktop Effects working.
[21:45] <Roey> how can I diagnose this?
[21:47] <lordievader> Roey: Can you pastebin the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"?
[21:48] <Roey> lordievader:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9714933
[21:48] <Roey> 750 Ti
[21:50] <lordievader> Roey: It is using the nVidia driver though.
[21:51] <Roey> lordievader:  correct.
[21:52] <Roey> lordievader:  the specific problem is that I get errors when I try enabling the OpenGL-based Desktop Effects in System Settings.
[21:53] <lordievader> Does nvidiaxconfig complain about things?
[21:54] <Roey> no
[21:54] <Roey> nvidia-xconfig
[21:54] <Roey> it does not complain about anything
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[21:55] <lordievader> Roey: Hmm, then I don't really know what the problem can be. :(
[21:55] <Roey> ah it's okay
[21:55] <Roey> in the end it'll get sorted out.
[21:55] <Roey> once 14.04 releases
[21:55] <Roey> which is when? april 22?
[21:57] <lordievader> The 17th: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[21:58] <Roey> oh wonderful!
[21:58] <Roey> almost in sight!
[22:00] <lordievader> \o/
[22:07] <Roey> oh,
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[22:31] <soee> Roey: but in 14.04 you will get 331 by default
[22:31] <soee> they work nice for me with nvidia-prime
[22:33] <snele> Roey: you can try with resetting kwin to its defaults
[22:34] <snele> rm ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[22:34] <snele> and then alt+f2 and type
[22:34] <snele> kwin --replace
[22:34] <snele> :)
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[23:06] <Roey> soee:  what's that?
[23:06] <Roey> soee:  yes I see that 14.04 defaults to 331.....
[23:06] <Roey> soee:  I hope a PPA package will pop up soon.
[23:06] <Roey> snele:  what does that effectively do?
[23:07] <snele> Roey: It resets desktop effects (kwin) to its default settings
[23:09] <snele> Roey: maybe its not problem with your nvidia drivers. sometimes kwin get buggy and disables effects for now reason
[23:10] <Roey> ok
[23:10] <Roey> yeah and I  noticed a bug in Pager too.
[23:10] <Roey> things still seem buggy in general
[23:10] <Roey> I am having BTRFS errors as well.
[23:10] <snele> Roey: Pager is configured by kwin too
[23:11] <Roey> alright
[23:11] <Roey> if I reset kwin's settings, will I have to re-configure it by hand afterwards?
[23:11] <snele> Roey: yea. in system settings>desktop effects
[23:11] <Roey> alright.
[23:11] <Roey> I'll do that then.
[23:11] <Roey> actually I'll just move it
[23:12] <snele> and reconfigure Pager
[23:12] <Roey> done
[23:13] <snele> do kwin --replace afterwards
[23:14] <snele> Roey: btw for me 14.04 is rock solid
[23:14] <snele> :)
[23:15] <DarthFrog> snele: How long have you been running Trusty?
[23:15] <Roey> ah
[23:15] <Roey> ok things seem to get better now.
[23:15] <Roey> definitely looks smoother
[23:15] <Roey> let's open systme settings...
[23:16] <snele> DarthFrog: since begining of february
[23:16] <DarthFrog> Sounds like a winner. :-)
[23:16] <Roey> ah ok!
[23:16] <Roey> wonderful
[23:16] <Roey> snele:  you're right, this works! Thanks!
[23:17] <snele> Roey: yea that is my fix when kwin goes crazy :)
[23:17] <snele> glad I helped
[23:18] <Roey> that should be in the FAQ
[23:18] <Roey> and if it is then shame on me
[23:18] <Roey> thanks again :)
[23:18] <Roey> my system was in this lame state for the past two weeks
[23:21] <valorie> Roey: I've been running it for a few weeks as well
[23:21] <Roey> ahh
[23:21] <valorie> so far, so good
[23:21] <Roey> I have issues with BTRFS that's been patched already
[23:21] <Roey> I am unsure if that patch has been applied downstream
[23:21] <Roey> by the way, hello Valorie!
[23:22] <valorie> although virtuoso just crashed and I'm reporting a bug
[23:22] <valorie> hi Roey
[23:24] <valorie> and then apport crashed while trying to report the bug!
[23:24] <valorie> fun with beta
[23:25] <Roey> :)
[23:25] <Roey> snele:  btw another bug:
[23:26] <Roey> when I type in the Lancelot edit field,
[23:26] <Roey> it's white-on-white.  And I've seen it also in the search field  in getting new window decorations dialog
[23:27] <Roey> there too.
[23:27] <Roey> AND
[23:27] <Roey> how do I get kicker??
[23:27] <Roey> I can't seem to get it
[23:27] <Roey> er, kickoff
[23:27] <Roey> the default kde menu
[23:28] <snele> Roey: I don't use Lancelot
[23:29] <snele> you can find kickoff i widgets
[23:29] <snele> everything you see on panel are widgets btw
[23:30] <snele> homerun kicker is nice menu too
[23:30] <snele> you can find it in repositories
[23:31] <snele> plasma-widget-homerun-kicker is package name
[23:31] <snele> :)
[23:34] <snele> about white-on-white thing, that is probably problem with color scheme you are using
[23:35] <Roey> I just want kickoff.
[23:35] <Roey> right now I don't see it.
[23:35] <Roey> (When I look through the widget list)
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[23:59] <snele> Roey: in search bar when i type "menu" it pops up