| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | |
| [05:28] <pitti> Good morning | |
| [05:30] <Mirv> morning | |
| === FJKong_afk is now known as FJKong | |
| [07:58] <ritz> cyphermox, hi, any updates on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1116317 | |
| [07:58] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1116317 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu Raring) "[ffe] allow option to create user connections by default" [Medium,In progress] | |
| [09:04] <Laney> morning! | |
| [09:06] <hikiko> /query JohnLea | |
| [09:06] <hikiko> oups :) | |
| [09:06] <seb128> hey Laney | |
| [09:07] <seb128> hey hikiko | |
| [09:07] <seb128> good morning desktopers! | |
| [09:07] <hikiko> hello :) | |
| [09:07] <Laney> hey seb128, how are you? good we? | |
| [09:08] <seb128> I'm good thanks, very nice w.e | |
| [09:08] <seb128> 18°C with sun, it feels like summer | |
| [09:08] <seb128> or almost ;-) | |
| [09:08] <seb128> you? | |
| [09:09] <Laney> oh yeah, we had nice weather too | |
| [09:09] <Laney> was up north helping some people move house | |
| [09:09] <Laney> so a lot of carrying of heavy things | |
| [09:09] <seb128> some exercice, good ;-) | |
| [09:14] <Laney> yep | |
| [09:14] <Laney> also I'm off the rest of the week so if there's something I should look at, better tell me soon | |
| [09:14] <Laney> ;-) | |
| === mlankhor1t is now known as mlankhorst | |
| [09:40] <mlankhorst> oh morning laney | |
| [09:40] <mlankhorst> yeah crazy weather | |
| [09:42] * Laney hopes it continues | |
| [09:48] <mlankhorst> not m,e | |
| === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter | |
| [09:53] <mlankhorst> I prefer slightly cold | |
| [10:06] * TheMuso` can't wait for things to start cooling down here. | |
| [10:27] <om26er> seb128, Hey can you point me who wrote the 'About' panel in the settings app ? (and the underlying backends) | |
| [10:27] <seb128> om26er, I did | |
| [10:27] <seb128> om26er, hey | |
| [10:27] <om26er> seb128, where you you getting the Serial number of the device from ? (not IMEI) | |
| [10:28] <om26er> because I couldn't find where UbuntuStorageAboutPanel{} is being defined | |
| [10:29] <seb128> om26er, the ro.serialno property libhybris | |
| [10:29] <Sweetshark> 666 open bugs for LibreOffice on Ubuntu! | |
| [10:29] <Sweetshark> \m/ | |
| [10:29] <seb128> om26er, hum? the backend is storageabout.cpp in plugins/about | |
| [10:30] <om26er> seb128, assumingly there is nothing for python to talk to hybirs ? | |
| [10:30] <om26er> *hybris | |
| [10:30] <seb128> om26er, I don't know, there is a command line utility, you can probably exec it from python | |
| [10:31] <seb128> om26er, btw I'm still unsure I agree with your dropping of localized tests | |
| [10:31] <seb128> in fact I'm pretty sure I disagree | |
| [10:31] <om26er> seb128, in my other branch I am actually deleting the tests are rely on 'Labels' thats not something to be tested | |
| [10:32] <om26er> *that are | |
| [10:32] <seb128> om26er, I can agree with that, but it doesn't mean you should nuke support for translations on the way | |
| [10:32] <seb128> especially if you don't test for labels, why does it bother you if my UI is in french? | |
| [10:32] <om26er> seb128, I believe that's one extra point where the tests could fail, making them less stable | |
| [10:33] <seb128> well, it might also catch real bugs | |
| [10:33] <seb128> it's fine if your runner force a locale | |
| [10:33] <seb128> but don't drop support for other locales if somebody wants to run them in that configuration | |
| [10:34] <om26er> seb128, well if we force a locale then there is less point in translating, but I'll try to bring that change back, its your source ;) | |
| [10:34] <Laney> it uses the upstream translations so you get that for free-ish | |
| [10:34] <seb128> om26er, well, your CI setup might want to force a locale if you think it's safer | |
| [10:35] <seb128> om26er, but I still want to be able to run those tests with a french UI ;-) | |
| [10:35] <Laney> I can imagine someone might want to run the tests in Chinese | |
| [10:35] <seb128> especially being able to test a RTL locale might be useful | |
| [10:36] <om26er> the who point is, I am changing (and deleting in some cases) tests that are actually testing "nothing" :D | |
| [10:36] <seb128> om26er, your team added those tests that test "nothing" btw... | |
| [10:36] <seb128> Victor wrote them when he added the autopilot support | |
| [10:36] <seb128> and well, they do test that pages load | |
| [10:37] <seb128> though you can test that differently I guess | |
| [10:37] <om26er> seb128, yeah we are supposed to test deeper than that, things like changing the rington setting actually changes that in gsettings or now the accountservice | |
| [10:38] <om26er> seb128, is there a way to check if a plugin successfully loaded ? | |
| [10:38] <seb128> om26er, right, see https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-t-system-settings-testing | |
| [10:39] <seb128> look at the title of the page? :p | |
| [10:41] <om26er> seb128, yeah, we need to find a better way :) | |
| [10:41] <seb128> sure, patches are welcome ;-) | |
| [10:41] <Laney> how? | |
| [10:41] <Laney> it's generally just 'load this qml file' | |
| [10:42] <Laney> You can ask Qt if it loaded, but I'm not sure how you would expose that to autopilot | |
| [10:42] <om26er> Laney, I think qml have properties live 'active' or in some cases 'loaded'. I might need to add a custom property as well. will investigate | |
| [10:43] <Laney> I think that it might be better to see if that can be added to the testability infrastructure | |
| [10:43] <Laney> given an object name, tell me if it loaded | |
| [10:43] <om26er> Laney, if qt knows and does not expose to autopilot we can probably add custom properties for that | |
| [10:43] <seb128> speaking of tests | |
| [10:43] <Laney> maybe it's already there | |
| [10:44] <seb128> Laney, do you understand what's the purpose of https://code.launchpad.net/~chris.gagnon/ubuntu-system-settings/barebones-autopilot-emulator-for-updates-page/+merge/210036 | |
| [10:44] <om26er> they do have .active but not sure if reliable or not | |
| [10:45] <Laney> anyway, I think that's a better level than the application layer | |
| [10:45] <Laney> seb128: It lets you have custom methods on the object | |
| [10:46] <om26er> Laney, seb128 I believe Chris is working on upgrade testing | |
| [10:47] <Laney> so you can have a more friendly interface to the component | |
| [10:47] <seb128> k | |
| [10:47] <Laney> I'm not sure why there are random indenation and other changes in that mp though | |
| === maclin__ is now known as maclin | |
| [10:56] <om26er> seb128, so if I am to write a few new tests, I should take this BP as a preliminary test plan ? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-t-system-settings-testing | |
| [10:56] <seb128> om26er, that's an example of tests that would be nice to have that we identified, but feel free to add others | |
| [10:57] <Laney> feel free to steal WIs from people there too I think | |
| [10:57] <Laney> seb128: hmm, do you know if robert_ancell is planning on looking at user switching? | |
| [10:57] <Laney> just had to switch vt manually to get back in | |
| [10:57] <om26er> i did work on an initial helper to check if changes successfully took place in gsettings | |
| [10:58] <seb128> Laney, that's not a known issue afaik | |
| [10:58] <Laney> oh I thought you said it was | |
| [10:58] <om26er> Did I hear right, ringtones settings will be saved in accountsservice ? | |
| [10:58] <seb128> Laney, no, mine is a vt taking over the active session | |
| [10:58] <Laney> gnome-screensaver → switch user → type password | |
| [10:58] <Laney> just kept putting me back to the greeter | |
| [10:58] <seb128> weird | |
| [10:58] <Laney> om26er: yes, they are now | |
| [10:59] <Laney> bah | |
| [11:00] <seb128> Laney, so entering the password on the greeter sends you back to the greeter? | |
| [11:00] <Laney> yus | |
| [11:00] <Laney> I'll file a bug with logs | |
| [11:00] <Laney> do you see it? | |
| [11:00] <seb128> yes, please | |
| [11:00] <seb128> no I don't | |
| [11:00] <Laney> ok | |
| [11:00] <seb128> is that reproducible? | |
| [11:01] <Laney> dunno, let me file it then restart | |
| [11:01] <seb128> I'm running trunk atm, robert_ancell asked me to test it since he landed a fix for the issue I was having (where my session would be closed, replaced by a vt after user switching) | |
| [11:01] <Laney> ok I never saw that particular one | |
| [11:01] <Laney> but if I can reproduce it I'll try trunk | |
| [11:01] <seb128> thanks | |
| [11:05] <Laney> bug #1290315 | |
| [11:05] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1290315 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "After 'Switch user', entering password doesn't return to the session" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290315 | |
| [11:05] * Laney will upload d-conf first, then reboot | |
| [11:17] <seb128> Laney, "Inappropriate ioctl for device" ... weird | |
| [11:21] <Laney> hmm | |
| [11:21] <Laney> laney@raleigh> ls -l /dev/console ~ | |
| [11:21] <Laney> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Mar 10 09:29 /dev/console -> lxc/console | |
| [11:21] <Laney> that's fishy | |
| [11:27] <seb128> Laney, indeed, that seems weird | |
| [11:27] <om26er> Laney, should the test suite depend on pyflakes and pep8 now that I have added a tests for that | |
| [11:28] <seb128> om26er, build-depending on those seems fine to me | |
| [11:29] <Laney> yep | |
| [11:29] <Laney> thanks for adding those | |
| [11:29] <om26er> seb128, but they are not build-deps I put the tests under autopilot, so they are run with autopilot. should they run during build ? | |
| [11:29] <Laney> they should be build-time imo | |
| [11:29] <seb128> that would be nicer, that's when you want to catch those issues | |
| [11:36] <Laney> hmm I'm very suspicious of lxc now | |
| [11:36] <Laney> it also symlinks tty1-4, which are broken | |
| [11:36] <Laney> 'Unable to determine tty n ame' | |
| [11:36] <seb128> stgraber is taking over your box! | |
| [11:37] <Laney> hax | |
| [11:37] <seb128> hum, I'm unsure I like the pep8 recommendation to wrap to 79 chars | |
| [11:37] <seb128> everyone has wide screens nowadays, that doesn't really makes much sense | |
| [11:39] <Laney> I do, it lets me have two windows side-by-side | |
| [11:40] <seb128> ok, fair enough | |
| [11:41] <seb128> om26er, can you make those tests build-time rather than autopilot? | |
| [11:41] <om26er> seb128, working on it atm | |
| [11:42] <seb128> thanks | |
| === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch | |
| [12:36] <om26er> pushed. Now the tests should be running during build. | |
| [12:38] <seb128> om26er, thanks, I'm going to review that in a bit | |
| [12:46] <seb128> didrocks, do you remember the command sam was using to debug stacking issue? xwmtree or something | |
| [12:46] <didrocks> seb128: xwininfo -tree -root | |
| [12:46] <seb128> didrocks, thanks | |
| [12:48] <didrocks> yw ;) | |
| [12:49] <seb128> trying to get info on those "can't type in lightdm" bug (I can't reproduce but seems quite some users get it) | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | |
| [12:54] <sil2100> Hey, does anyone know if there is some progress on the alt+key keystrokes being fetched by appmenu when not needed (like, for irssi and vim)? | |
| [12:55] <seb128> sil2100, it's fixing in unity-gtk-module trunk, that needs a landing though ... can you make that happen? ;-) | |
| [12:56] <seb128> sil2100, that component is not under CI train, and not sure old landings still happen... | |
| [12:56] <sil2100> seb128: I think we will have to move it to CI Train - I'll disable it from cu2d and assign a silo if you can prepare the landing :) | |
| [12:56] <sil2100> I would love having it fixed :D | |
| [12:57] <seb128> sil2100, I can do that | |
| [12:58] <seb128> sil2100, I guess you would be happy to test the ppa once it's in a silo then ;-) | |
| [12:59] <Laney> man | |
| [12:59] <Laney> I installed a VM on my HDD instead of the SSD | |
| [12:59] <Laney> upgrading pure pain | |
| [12:59] <Laney> ^is | |
| [13:00] <Trevinho> attente: hey | |
| [13:00] <attente> Trevinho: hey | |
| [13:01] <Trevinho> attente: about https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/compiz/1284532/+merge/208908 instead of hardcoding the change, why not using migration scripts and removing that plugin from options? | |
| [13:02] <attente> Trevinho: how do migration scripts work? do they still run if the key has been explicitly set in the past? | |
| [13:02] <Trevinho> attente: basically you've to edit the unity.ini inside compiz-gnome and adding some migration scripts (for both ccsm and proper migration script) | |
| [13:02] <Trevinho> attente: yes | |
| [13:03] <Trevinho> attente: see https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/disable-decor-with-unity and https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/unity-profile-remove-decor | |
| [13:03] <attente> Trevinho: ok, thanks | |
| [13:03] <Trevinho> you've just to do the same | |
| [13:04] <Trevinho> attente: also it would be nice to add a proper incompatibility between unityshell and gnomecompat inside unityshell.xml | |
| [13:04] <Trevinho> so that it won't be enabled by ccsm either | |
| [13:05] <sil2100> seb128: ;) | |
| [13:05] <ChrisTownsend> Trevinho: attente: Err, should probably move that MP out of approved then... | |
| [13:06] <Trevinho> ChrisTownsend: yeah, | |
| [13:06] <Trevinho> ChrisTownsend: hey btw :) | |
| [13:06] <seb128> ChrisTownsend, Trevinho, bregma: hey unity team, how are things going? ;-) | |
| [13:07] <seb128> you guys should get your lockscreen lined up/ready if you want it to land | |
| [13:07] <Trevinho> ChrisTownsend: and... since you're here, here's the long awaited window shrink fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/compiz/extents-clamp-workarea/+merge/210202 ;) | |
| [13:07] <Trevinho> seb128: it's ready I think | |
| [13:07] <seb128> Laney is off for the end of the week starting tonight | |
| [13:07] <bregma> Trevinho, is the an MP for that? | |
| [13:07] <seb128> you might want to get the ffe approved before he leaves | |
| [13:07] <xnox> seb128: here in the office a person is trying out high dpi ubuntu | |
| [13:07] <ChrisTownsend> Trevinho: Hey, oh, sure, I'll review. | |
| [13:07] <bregma> seb128, you mean the lockscreen FFe? | |
| [13:07] <Trevinho> bregma: lockscreen or resize? | |
| [13:08] <seb128> otherwise you might have less chance chassing up another release-team member to get it approved | |
| [13:08] <seb128> bregma, yes | |
| [13:08] <seb128> xnox, hey, good! how is it working? | |
| [13:08] <xnox> seb128: and unity is scaling awesome, the desktop icons on the desktop did not. | |
| [13:08] <seb128> xnox, right, the slider doesn't change the gtk setting | |
| [13:09] <seb128> xnox, there is a vUDS session about that this week | |
| [13:09] <seb128> xnox, you can "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface scaling-factor 2" manually though | |
| [13:09] <xnox> seb128: do we have the right bits in gtk/gnome to do things (hiDPI things) or will we just fudge it? | |
| [13:09] <xnox> seb128: let me try that. | |
| [13:10] <seb128> xnox, "right", GNOME has this setting I just pointed you at, but it's an "int" factor, so it's 1 or 2 | |
| [13:10] <seb128> no nice scaling | |
| [13:10] <seb128> I guess we are going to end up setting that to whatever int is closer | |
| [13:10] <seb128> but nice support is going to work only for unity and qml softwares | |
| === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow | |
| [13:22] <xnox> seb128: right, we _mus_ make that twiddle be paired, and somehow modify the setting system-wide. | |
| [13:22] <xnox> s/mus/must/ | |
| [13:23] <xnox> seb128: cause it will ship pre-installed on hidpi screens =/ | |
| [13:23] <seb128> xnox, well, oems can tweak the default | |
| [13:23] <xnox> seb128: well, tweak one option, not multiple ideally. | |
| [13:23] <seb128> right | |
| [13:24] <Laney> it's going to be, don't worry about _must_ing people | |
| [13:24] <xnox> seb128: is it meant to "auto-guess" the correct dpi / factor? | |
| [13:24] <xnox> Laney: ok, sorry. | |
| [13:24] <om26er> seb128, so whats the name of that cmd tool for getting serial number from hybris ? | |
| [13:24] <om26er> i got the IMEI out of ofono' dbus interface | |
| [13:25] <seb128> xnox, no, see https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/unity-settings-daemon/hidpi-no-auto-detection/+merge/207685 | |
| [13:25] <Laney> om26er: I think getprop ro.serialno | |
| [13:25] <seb128> xnox, but as said, there is a vUDS session to discuss that this week | |
| [13:25] <seb128> om26er, what Laney said | |
| [13:25] <xnox> seb128: right. | |
| [13:26] <om26er> yeah that works.. | |
| [13:26] <Laney> om26er: try not to assume that it'll always be there | |
| [13:26] <om26er> where to get last updated date of the image ? and also image build number | |
| [13:26] <Laney> the test should be like "if it's there then it is this" | |
| [13:26] <om26er> Laney, yeah its not on the desktop only worked on my phone | |
| [13:26] <Laney> yeah | |
| [13:26] <seb128> om26er, the system-image provides those info | |
| [13:27] <seb128> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades/Client | |
| [13:27] <Laney> yeah Info() on the dbus api | |
| [13:27] <seb128> see the wikipage for details | |
| [13:27] <seb128> it has documentations about the api and what it returns | |
| [13:28] <om26er> seb128, cool, will read. thanks | |
| [13:28] <seb128> yw | |
| [13:49] <Laney> hmm | |
| [13:50] <Laney> kenvandine: is there some problem with content hub when running apps from the terminal (over ssh)? | |
| [13:50] <seb128> unity was unhappy after I undocked my laptop, he wouldn't restart until I restarted my session | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> Laney, they need to be started with upstart-app-launch | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> or the shell | |
| [13:51] <Laney> :/ | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> needs the click magic stuff | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> Laney, yeah... it's tough | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> but it depends on apparmor profile stuff | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> it isn't impossible :) | |
| [13:51] <seb128> Trevinho, ^, it was erroring out on "(opengl) - Error: Couldn't bind 0-sized pixmap to texture: the width and height arguments must be nonzero." | |
| [13:51] <kenvandine> you can just set APP_ID | |
| [13:52] <kenvandine> to match what it would be if run from upstart | |
| [13:52] <Trevinho> seb128: that's already fixed in a branch I need to propose | |
| [13:52] <seb128> lol | |
| [13:52] <seb128> Trevinho, keep the good work ;-) | |
| [13:52] <kenvandine> Laney, but... note that when the hub tries to focus the app, it'll start a new instance | |
| [13:52] <kenvandine> since upstart isn't tracking the on you have already running | |
| [13:52] <kenvandine> s/on/one | |
| [13:52] <Laney> can I get stdout & stderr when using upstart-app-launch? | |
| [13:52] <kenvandine> yes | |
| [13:53] <Laney> or do I have to tail the log | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> look in .cache/upstart | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> tail the log | |
| [13:53] <Laney> brr | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> yeah... not fun | |
| [13:53] <Laney> IN YOUR FACE, UNIX | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> i know :) | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> i live in this world daily now :/ | |
| [13:53] <kenvandine> upstart owns us now :) | |
| [13:54] <Laney> anyway, thanks | |
| [13:54] <Laney> I thought my code was breaking this inexplicably | |
| [13:54] <kenvandine> has some up sides... but it is "change" :-/ | |
| [13:54] <GunnarHj> Hi Laney | |
| [13:54] <Laney> GunnarHj: going out to lunch $now | |
| [13:54] <Laney> need to be back before dmb, sorry | |
| [13:55] <GunnarHj> Laney: Ok. | |
| [13:55] <Laney> but if you leave a message after the tone i'll call you back | |
| [13:55] * Laney beeps | |
| [13:55] <GunnarHj> Laney: I'll get back after dmb then. ;-) | |
| [13:56] <seb128> GunnarHj, or just ask your question, maybe somebody else can reply, if not Laney is going to do that once he's back | |
| [13:59] <GunnarHj> seb128: Well, I was going to ask if Laney has time to follow up on https://mentors.debian.net/package/mythes-sv | |
| [13:59] <GunnarHj> seb128: Since he already did a first review... | |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | |
| [14:00] <seb128> GunnarHj, k | |
| [14:31] <seb128> shrug | |
| [14:32] <seb128> mitya57, that d-feet update is buggy, please revert it | |
| [14:34] <mitya57> seb128: works fine here, what's wrong with it? | |
| [14:34] <seb128> mitya57, it's using GTK CSD, where do I start? | |
| [14:34] <seb128> there is no wm bar under Unity | |
| [14:34] <seb128> no way to resize the dialog | |
| [14:34] <seb128> the background is fully transparent | |
| [14:34] <seb128> you can't see the content | |
| [14:34] <mitya57> seb128: please stop, reverting :) | |
| [14:35] <seb128> mitya57, thanks | |
| [14:35] * mitya57 thought it was a bugfix-only release | |
| [14:35] <seb128> mitya57, I was filling a bug, do you want it for tracking purpose? | |
| [14:35] <seb128> mitya57, did you try to run it, you say "works fine here" | |
| [14:35] <mitya57> seb128: no need for a bug. I ran it, but didn't compare with previous version. | |
| [14:36] <seb128> mitya57, what theme do you use? I wonder why I see the bg being transparent and not you | |
| [14:36] <seb128> mitya57, you use gnome-shell I guess? | |
| [14:37] <slowcon> hey guys, wondering if anyone has sucessfully setup RDP(or similiar enviornment) on ubuntu desktop(gnome) 12.04 | |
| [14:37] <mitya57> seb128: Right now I'm using gnome-shell and Adwaita... | |
| [14:37] <mitya57> *Adwaita Dark | |
| [14:37] <seb128> mitya57, k, so I guess a theme issue (+ CSD not working out of gnome-shell) | |
| [14:38] <seb128> slowcon, hey, try #ubuntu for user questions | |
| [14:38] <slowcon> seb128: will pop in there | |
| [14:49] <mitya57> seb128: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/d-feet/0.3.8+really0.3.6-0ubuntu1 | |
| [14:52] <mitya57> Oh, nice, it FTBFS. "xvfb-run: error: Xvfb failed to start" | |
| [14:52] * mitya57 retries | |
| [14:53] <seb128> mitya57, thanks | |
| === cmiller_ is now known as CardinalFang | |
| === CardinalFang is now known as qengho | |
| [14:56] <mitya57> Retry helped. | |
| [15:01] <seb128> good | |
| [15:11] <Trevinho> seb128: so what we're missing on lockscreen front? I mean, do we want that screeensaver change in also? | |
| [15:12] <seb128> Trevinho, yes, we need a silo which is "complete", e.g a ppa which gives you "use trusty, enable the ppa, upgrade, get the new experience fully working" | |
| [15:27] <bigon> pitti: hey, are you planning to upload udisk(2) to debian? | |
| [15:27] <pitti> bigon: I did this morning | |
| [15:27] <bigon> oh | |
| [15:27] <pitti> bigon: http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/udisks/news/20140310T102046Z.html | |
| [15:27] <bigon> /o\ | |
| [15:27] <pitti> bigon: http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/udisks2/news/20140310T102106Z.html | |
| [15:27] <bigon> thx | |
| [15:28] <pitti> bigon: why /o\, something isn't right? | |
| [15:28] <bigon> shouldn't this be be updated through security? | |
| [15:28] <bigon> no, non, I missed the fact that you already did it | |
| [15:28] <pitti> bigon: yes, I sent wheezy and squeeze updates to the security team | |
| [15:28] <pitti> bigon: Moritz is handling them | |
| [15:31] <bigon> ah he just sent the DSA mail | |
| [15:50] <Trevinho> seb128: ok, so how can we make a silo that has both gnome-screensaver patches and unity? I mean, no problem for unity, but what should I do in order to get the g-s patch to build? | |
| [15:50] <Trevinho> seb128: should I make a branch against its sources (not against the debian/ folder only)? | |
| [15:50] <seb128> Trevinho, silos can have manual uploads, just provide a debdiff to bregma (assuming he's going to be the lander for the silo) | |
| [15:51] <Trevinho> mh ok | |
| [15:52] <bregma> seb128, I hate to sound ignorant (I am, I just hate to sound that way), how does a manual upload to a silo work? | |
| [15:52] <seb128> bregma, that's a good question, same way as any ppa upload I guess, "dput <ppa:name> .changes" | |
| [15:52] <seb128> didrocks, sil2100: ^ ? | |
| [15:53] <Trevinho> ah, ok... that's fine | |
| [16:01] <sil2100> seb128: let me backlog | |
| [16:02] <sil2100> bregma, Trevinho: yes, direct uploading is a standard dput to the given silo's landing PPA | |
| [16:09] <didrocks> yeah, we'll get something better in the long term I guess, but for now, it's the way | |
| [16:17] <seb128> Laney, before you leave us for holidays, what's the status of https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1282798 ? did you want extra details about it...? | |
| [16:17] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1282798 in Unity "[FFe] Provide a lock screen and unlock dialogs in Unity" [Medium,In progress] | |
| [16:18] <Laney> it wasn't ready to go | |
| [16:18] <Laney> for example the changes to g-s and whatever else didn't/don't exist | |
| [16:20] <Laney> the branch itself wasn't even approved until 3 hours ago | |
| [16:21] <seb128> Laney, right, said differently, it seems ready now, any chance you could have another look before calling it a week? ;-) | |
| [16:21] <Laney> so the status is that it seems like a fairly big change that's only now getting ready which is concerning to me | |
| [16:22] <Laney> yep, where can I find the g-s changes? | |
| [16:22] <seb128> bregma, Trevinho: ^ | |
| [16:23] <Trevinho> Laney, I don't have a MR yet, but let me paste the aptch | |
| [16:23] <Trevinho> patch* | |
| [16:23] <Laney> attach it to the bug please | |
| [16:24] <Trevinho> Laney I'm doing that in few minutes, but in the mean time that's the raw version: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7068484/ | |
| [17:02] <Laney> kenvandine: can I pass an environment variable using upstart-app-launch? :( | |
| [17:02] <kenvandine> nope | |
| [17:02] <kenvandine> they get stripped | |
| [17:03] <Laney> righto | |
| [17:03] <kenvandine> fun... :/ | |
| [17:04] <Laney> is APP_ID the filename of the desktop file then? | |
| [17:04] <kenvandine> no | |
| [17:04] <kenvandine> but you can find it in the .desktop file | |
| [17:04] <Laney> what am I looking for? | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> X-Ubuntu-Application-ID=com.ubuntu.developer.ken-vandine.hub-sharer_hub-sharer_0.1 | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> for example | |
| [17:05] <Laney> it's not there for system-settings | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> ah... | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> because that isn't a click package | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> so yeah | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> then the name of the .desktop file | |
| [17:05] <Laney> nod | |
| [17:05] <kenvandine> and upstart starts it as "legacy" | |
| [17:05] <Laney> yep, saw that | |
| [17:11] <Laney> I hacked the reset.settings file instead ^_^ | |
| [17:11] <Laney> even making a wrapper script didn't work | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | |
| [17:37] <Trevinho> Laney: so I've attached the patch to the bug report | |
| [17:37] <Laney> ok | |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | |
| === cmiller_ is now known as CardinalFang | |
| === CardinalFang is now known as qengho | |
| [17:57] <seb128> cyphermox, do you know if ofono provides what we need for https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1287267 or if that's being worked on? | |
| [17:57] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1287267 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Data usage statistics" not shown" [Low,Triaged] | |
| [17:58] <rsalveti> seb128: please also ping awe | |
| [17:59] <seb128> rsalveti, k, moved to a channel where we can find him and asked again there | |
| [17:59] <rsalveti> cool, thanks | |
| [17:59] <seb128> yw, thanks for suggestion ;-) | |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD | |
| [18:15] <Saviq> does anyone else's empathy not start on trusty complaining about missing libwayland-egl.so.1? | |
| [18:15] <seb128> Saviq, libhybris! | |
| [18:16] <seb128> Saviq, don't install that ;-) | |
| [18:17] <Laney> ah | |
| [18:17] <Laney> that reminds me, I forgot to push at that | |
| [18:17] <Laney> I posted a patch and a suggestion for a fix/workaround to https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1206371 | |
| [18:17] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1206371 in libhybris (Ubuntu) "libhybris breaks mesa (cannot find libwayland-egl.so.1)" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [18:18] <Laney> rsalveti: ^ could you look at either please? | |
| [18:18] <Laney> I'm going away for the week now so just wanted to let you know | |
| [18:18] <Laney> on that note, see you next week everyone :-) | |
| [18:19] <Laney> happy hacking | |
| [18:19] <seb128> Laney, have nice holidays! | |
| [18:19] <Laney> enjoy the unity lock screen & UDS | |
| [18:19] <seb128> hehe, thank | |
| [18:19] <seb128> s | |
| [18:19] <seb128> did you approve it? | |
| [18:19] * seb128 opens the bug | |
| [18:19] <Laney> yeah for upload before weds | |
| [18:19] <seb128> cool | |
| [18:19] <Laney> the g-s patch needs reviewing properly | |
| [18:19] <seb128> it's landing in a silo today, should be doable | |
| [18:19] <seb128> right | |
| [18:20] <Laney> it seems slightly weird in places but I didn't look at the whole thing in context of the code | |
| [18:20] <Laney> maybe it's right if you do that | |
| [18:20] <Laney> Trevinho: thanks for working on that! | |
| [18:20] <Trevinho> Laney: np | |
| [18:21] <Laney> alrighty, catch you in a few days | |
| [18:21] <Trevinho> Laney: thank you for the approval ;) | |
| [18:21] <Laney> if you see people pinging me for stuff then redirect them to the rest of the release team ;-) | |
| [18:21] * Laney waves | |
| [18:23] <seb128> Laney, have fun, see you! | |
| [18:34] <seb128> bregma, Trevinho: unity failed to build in the landig ppa, (the new nux was not published yet), seems you like you need to rebuild unity build if you can | |
| [18:35] <bregma> seb128, yes, depwait, I'm keeping an eye on it | |
| [18:35] <seb128> oh, right, it's actually in depwait, I got confused by launchpad | |
| [18:35] <seb128> bregma, don't forgot to upload gnome-screensaver as well ;-) | |
| [19:06] <Trevinho> seb128, bregma gnome-screensaver deb-src are at http://people.ubuntu.com/~3v1n0/Lockscreen-GS/ | |
| [19:13] <bregma> Trevinho, I'm test-building locally | |
| [19:14] <Trevinho> bregma: thanks | |
| [19:14] <bregma> dunno if I have sufficient privs to upload to the silo PPA, we'll see | |
| [19:20] <Saviq> seb128, yeah, only it gets pulled in by unity8 - seems like we should fix that dependency somewhere | |
| [19:20] <Saviq> ah, well, -common1 is probably enough alone | |
| [19:23] <bregma> Saviq, 'sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_egl_conf' should fix the problem locally forever, but fixing the hybris dependency would make me happier | |
| [19:56] <ali1234> tedg: got a weird bug with indicators and gtk-greeter... | |
| [19:57] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7069492/ | |
| [19:57] <seb128> Saviq, did you say Laney's comment? | |
| [19:57] <ali1234> not sure if this is caused by the no-watchers thing or not | |
| [19:57] <ali1234> but it causes the indicator and init and gtk-greeter to get "zombified" | |
| [19:58] <ali1234> and then it shows on the panel like this: http://imagebin.org/298340 | |
| [19:58] <seb128> bregma, if you have rights to use the jenkins I think you should be able to upload | |
| [19:58] <ali1234> ps waxf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7069422/ | |
| [19:59] <bregma> seb128, nope (tried it) only the PPA services team have the rights) | |
| [20:00] <seb128> bregma, shame :/ | |
| [20:02] <bregma> more work for someone else, that's all | |
| [20:03] <seb128> yeah, I'm going to test that tomorrow morning, but for now calling it a day | |
| [20:23] <tedg> ali1234, Hmm, that's odd. Is whoever is starting init in that case setting the SIGTERM to it? | |
| [20:23] <ali1234> gtk-greeter calls init to send the startup event | |
| [20:24] <tedg> ali1234, After the TERM, upstart should clean up everything. | |
| [20:24] <ali1234> i'm not 100% sure what actually gets killed | |
| [20:24] <tedg> ali1234, The greeter should get a TERM from lightdm, and should pass that down. | |
| [20:25] <ali1234> well, that's pretty much what it does... i'm told that it was just copied from unity0greeter... although that's vala of course | |
| [20:28] <ali1234> ok, it runs init --user --startup-event indicator-services-start using g_spawn_async | |
| [20:28] <ali1234> it save the pid and then does kill(), waitpid() on it at shutdown | |
| [20:29] <tedg> Hmm, that *should* work. | |
| [20:29] <ali1234> it seems like waitpid() never returns for some reason, as indicator-sound-service, init, and lightdm-gtk-greeter are all still running when you get to the desktop | |
| [20:29] <ali1234> (in the pastebin there's multiple copies of them all) | |
| [20:31] <ali1234> this is a user-reported error, i'm not sure how to reproduce, but apparently it happens intermittently with a clean install in virtualbox. i had the user add the no-watchers workaround to see if it makes any difference | |
| [21:19] <ali1234> tedg: apparently allow-no-watchers doesn't help | |
| [21:24] <tedg> ali1234, I'd guess it's not an indicator bug, but somehow the signal not getting to Upstart. Upstart is pretty brutal about destroying the indicators once it shuts down. | |
| [21:24] <ali1234> i have to disagree | |
| [21:25] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7069492/ | |
| [21:25] <ali1234> init sent TERM to the indicator but for some reason it respawned | |
| [21:26] <ali1234> the only thing i can really think is somehow the greeter is killing the indicator process instead of upstart, and then upstart is just restarting it | |
| [21:26] <tedg> Hmm, it should give us 5 secs, and then STOP | |
| [21:27] <tedg> Wonder if that 5 secs gets reset on respawn. | |
| [21:27] <tedg> xnox might know if he's around ^ | |
| [21:27] <ali1234> well it probably respawned those 10 times in like 1 second | |
| [21:29] <ali1234> hmm... indicator-power got disabled and doesn't show up on ps waxf | |
| [21:29] <ali1234> indicator-sound respawned only once and does appear on ps waxf | |
| [21:34] <ali1234> i actually have some of these zombies on my machine... never noticed them | |
| [21:36] * tedg hands ali1234 a shotgun | |
| [21:37] <bschaefer> tedg, im out of context, but i laughed | |
| [22:02] <ali1234> reported as bug 1290575 | |
| [22:02] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1290575 in lightdm-gtk-greeter (Ubuntu) "lightdm-gtk-greeter does not exit cleanly when logging in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1290575 | |
| [22:45] <robert_ancell> desrt, are you running gdm at the moment? | |
| [23:38] <xnox> ali1234: if upstart is stopping things, it sends sigterm... delay... sigkill. | |
| [23:39] <xnox> ali1234: looking at that log, someone external sent the sigterm (or job is dieing by itself?!) and upstart is trying to keep it alive (respawing) and eventually giving up. | |
| [23:39] <ali1234> lightdm-gtk-greeter sends the kill to init | |
| [23:48] <xnox> ali1234: to shutdown it's mini init, ok. where is that code? can you point me to it? | |
| [23:49] <xnox> ali1234: i too noticed in the past that killing indicators was not done cleanly before. | |
| [23:49] <ali1234> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter/trunk/view/head:/src/lightdm-gtk-greeter.c#L2800 | |
| [23:49] <ali1234> that's the shutdown | |
| [23:49] <ali1234> launch is at: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-gtk-greeter-team/lightdm-gtk-greeter/trunk/view/head:/src/lightdm-gtk-greeter.c#L372 | |
| [23:56] <xnox> ali1234: that seems odd. | |
| [23:56] <xnox> ali1234: so init is shutting down correctly, that is - it received SIGTERM, it sends "session-end" event, and then force shutsdown everything. | |
| [23:57] <ali1234> yeah. except it doesn't all shut down cleanly and all the processes just hang around | |
| [23:57] <xnox> ali1234: but the indicators do not "stop on session-end" they stop on "stop on desktop-end or indicator-services-end" | |
| [23:57] <xnox> ali1234: that's a bug, but you can fix this (probably) by having indicator jobs "stop on session-end or ..." | |
| [23:58] <xnox> ali1234: or try "initctl emit indicator-session-end" before sigterm'ing the init. | |
| [23:58] <xnox> ali1234: and i'll reconstruct such unit test-case using session init to check where it is buggy there. | |
| [23:59] <ali1234> well, indicator jobs are tedg's area :) | |
| [23:59] <xnox> ali1234: which i've rightfully rejected from ubiquity =) | |