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[00:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: low fat settings has been axed btw |
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[00:14] <apachelogger> like a year ago |
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[00:14] <apachelogger> because MG was annoying me all day @pineda |
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[00:19] <soee> hmm what is this libkubuntu0 package that muon shows to be installed but it can not be ? |
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[00:35] <ahoneybun> soee firefox 27 was pushed to saucy |
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[00:38] <soee> ahoneybun: waiting for trusty :/ |
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[00:38] <ahoneybun> oh |
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[00:42] * mamarley wishes that the Ubuntu Mozilla Team people would put out the beta releases in their PPA in a more timely fashion :( |
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[01:13] <apachelogger> soee: it cannot be installed? |
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[01:14] <soee> apachelogger: muon shows stateus as "not installed" and request as "install" but if i apply vhanges it does nothing |
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[01:15] <soee> no error but package is not installed |
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[01:17] <apachelogger> meh |
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[01:17] <apachelogger> I won't get to bed today |
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[01:17] <apachelogger> soee: let me think of a way to debug that |
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[01:18] <apachelogger> soee: can you build muon yourself real quick? |
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[01:19] <soee> probably it will tage a little longer as i would have to install all dependencies to build a package (im after fresh install) |
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[01:19] <soee> lets do it tomorrow :) |
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[01:19] <apachelogger> soee: or maybe... do the following for starters.... killall qaptworker2; killall muon-updater; kdebugdialog ... then select all and apply |
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[01:20] <apachelogger> then start muon-updater from a terminal, hit ctrl-r to reload the cache and try to update |
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[01:20] <apachelogger> paste the output from the terminal |
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[01:22] <soee> its gone from the list |
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[01:23] <apachelogger> soee: does the update work? |
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[01:23] <soee> seems so http://pastebin.com/v2s8mdG8 |
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[01:23] <apachelogger> muon-updater(30661) ApplicationUpdates::start: couldn't find any apt updates |
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[01:24] <apachelogger> soee: so it doesn't list any udpates at all? |
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[01:24] <soee> oen second |
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[01:24] <soee> muon-updater doesnt't show any, the package is listed in the muon thoug |
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[01:25] <apachelogger> ahhhhhhhhhhhh, now I get it |
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[01:25] <apachelogger> soee: so you try to install it via muon itself and that does not work? |
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[01:26] <soee> nope, it finishes updates but the package is listed as to be insalled always |
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[01:27] <soee> http://wstaw.org/w/2v2P/linki/ |
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[01:27] <apachelogger> most peculiar |
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[01:29] <apachelogger> what I don't get though... why is it listed there at all |
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[01:29] <soee> noe idea :D |
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[01:29] <apachelogger> libkubuntu0 is a dependency of kde-runtime, so if the upgrade would install libkubuntu0 it would also have to upgrade kde-runtime |
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[01:29] <apachelogger> soee: what does apt-cache policy kde-runtime say? |
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[01:29] <soee> can i somehow clear cache of muon or something ? |
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[01:30] <apachelogger> you can close muon and reopen it :P |
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[01:30] <apachelogger> I am not sure that would change anything tho |
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[01:30] <soee> http://pastebin.com/C57vSiMb |
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[01:31] <apachelogger> this is the stranges thing in the world |
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[01:32] <soee> this show up like 2-3 days ago |
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[01:33] <apachelogger> actually |
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[01:34] <apachelogger> no, it all makes no sense :P |
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[01:34] <apachelogger> soee: somehow your qapt became incapable of listing updates |
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[01:35] <soee> oh? and others work just fine |
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[01:35] <apachelogger> soee: what's the output of sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
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[01:36] <soee> http://pastebin.com/eVt3xpa7 |
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[01:37] <apachelogger> right |
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[01:37] <apachelogger> not a qapt issue |
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[01:37] <apachelogger> phew |
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[01:37] <apachelogger> soee: your cache is busted |
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[01:37] <soee> :O |
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[01:37] <apachelogger> soee: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
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[01:38] <apachelogger> (note how the dist-upgrade output makes no sense, it says libkubuntu0 is installed, but then goes on saying it needs to install libkubuntu0) |
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[01:38] <soee> http://pastebin.com/LF2USxLk |
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[01:39] <apachelogger> soee: you may wan to at lreast remove the kubuntu-ppa entries in there |
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[01:39] <apachelogger> there's definitely not particularly save packages coming in from there |
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[01:39] <apachelogger> and xorg-edgers is always a gamble |
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[01:39] <apachelogger> soee: also what's apt-get check say? |
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[01:40] <apachelogger> also, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libkubuntu0 |
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[01:40] <soee> http://pastebin.com/Zsm3rrFK |
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[01:42] <apachelogger> afk brushing teeth |
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[01:42] <apachelogger> soee: try the update install command, that might resolve the problem |
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[01:43] <soee> looks liek it installed it: http://pastebin.com/yPXxKqd6 |
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[01:44] <soee> but now muon button Full Upgrade is active |
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[01:44] <soee> but if i click on it i have error message |
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[01:44] <soee> about unment deps |
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[01:45] <apachelogger> oh |
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[01:45] <apachelogger> well |
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[01:45] <apachelogger> first |
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[01:46] <apachelogger> soee: again `sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade` |
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[01:46] <soee> http://pastebin.com/dw4Xxdxv |
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[01:47] <apachelogger> soee: sudo apt-get install -s plasma-scriptengine-javascript |
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[01:47] <soee> ah ok so this previous package is fine now |
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[01:48] <apachelogger> yeah |
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[01:48] <apachelogger> my guess is that now some PPA is blocking the runtime stuff |
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[01:48] <apachelogger> s/runtime/scriptengine/ |
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[01:48] <kubotu> apachelogger meant: "my guess is that now some PPA is blocking the scriptengine stuff" |
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[01:49] <soee> uhm to beig output ot pastebin i think ;/ |
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[01:49] <soee> *big |
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[01:50] <soee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6912493/ |
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[01:53] <apachelogger> Inst plasma-scriptengine-javascript [4:4.12.2-0ubuntu1] (4:4.12.2+git20140210+bzr18249+pkg405~ubuntu14.04.1 Kubuntu Updates:14.04/trusty [amd64]) |
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[01:53] <apachelogger> soee: the updates PPA has some issue |
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[01:53] <apachelogger> yofel: ^ |
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[01:54] <apachelogger> soee: maybe wait |
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[01:54] <soee> sure |
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[01:54] <apachelogger> I guess yofel can find out why exactly it acts up |
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[01:55] <apachelogger> but basically upgrading that package would remove half the system which is why muon and dist-ugprade refuse to install it as an update |
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[01:55] <apachelogger> rightfully so |
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[01:55] <soee> yup, ok its not big issue for me, im happy that the problem with the first package is gone |
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[01:55] <apachelogger> soee: fwiw, if you feel like not using the bzr builds, you can apt pin origin Ubuntu with a higher priority forcing your system into official package versions |
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[01:56] <soee> thank you for your help apachelogger |
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[01:56] <apachelogger> I personally find it always a bit dangerous to use PPAs on the devel series |
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[01:56] <apachelogger> since sometimes things move so quick that brekage becomes a lot more likely with PPAs enabled ^^ |
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[01:56] <apachelogger> and with that I am off to bed |
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[01:56] <apachelogger> nini |
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[01:57] <soee> thanks again |
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[06:41] <snele> guys I am using 14.04 for about 10 days now as my main/production system |
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[06:42] <snele> what I have noticied that muon updater never pops up to inform me about updates |
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[06:42] <snele> is this normal/expected for non-final release? |
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[07:01] <valorie> snele: I guess we are gathering feedback here: https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts/WxmRfrRTdKN |
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[07:02] <valorie> you are quite a gambler to be using an alpha release as your production system |
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[08:01] <jarkko_> The following packages have been kept back: |
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[08:01] <jarkko_> usb-modeswitch-data |
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[09:52] <lordievader> Good morning. |
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[10:06] <apachelogger> valorie: feedback != bugs fwiw :P |
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[10:12] * apachelogger actually wonders how shadeslayer blogged on monday but his blog says he blogged on sunday |
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[10:12] <apachelogger> such confusing |
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[10:28] <apachelogger> Riddell: kubuntu-meta migrated, ISOs are below size threshold again \o/ |
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[10:30] <jarkko_> apachelogger: what's the size now? |
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[10:40] <apachelogger> <=1gib |
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[10:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1278814 |
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[10:44] <ubottu> bug 1278814 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kcm name should change" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278814 |
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[10:44] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1278732 |
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[10:44] <ubottu> bug 1278732 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "kubuntu-driver-manager crashes while trying to refresh driver list " [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278732 |
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[10:44] <jarkko_> what's akonadi? |
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[10:49] <cortexA9> hello |
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[10:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1278816 |
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[10:49] <ubottu> bug 1278816 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "crash when clicking reload two times in a row" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278816 |
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[10:49] <apachelogger> hey cortexA9 |
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[10:49] <cortexA9> hi apachelogger |
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[10:50] <cortexA9> i have already that problem |
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[10:50] <cortexA9> at startup |
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[10:50] <cortexA9> boot only with 3.11 kernel |
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[10:50] <cortexA9> the others go on initramfs screen |
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[10:52] <cortexA9> apachelogger: is it a known issue? |
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[10:53] <apachelogger> can't confirm anyway |
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[10:53] <apachelogger> ~ uname -a |
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[10:53] <apachelogger> Linux smith 3.13.0-8-generic #27-Ubuntu SMP Fri Feb 7 02:01:37 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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[10:53] <apachelogger> cortexA9: whether it's known you'll have to ask the kernel guys |
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[11:31] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1278826 |
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[11:31] <ubottu> bug 1278826 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "selecting driver, but denying authorization bugs out state tracking" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278826 |
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[11:34] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: bug 1278827 |
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[11:34] <ubottu> bug 1278827 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "state tracking incomplete" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278827 |
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[11:37] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all |
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[11:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: thx |
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[11:51] <cortexA9> hi BluesKaj |
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[11:52] <BluesKaj> hi cortexA9 |
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[13:14] <jussi> do we even have an alternate cd anymore?= |
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[13:15] <Peace-> jussi: alternate cd is not here from 1 2 release i guess |
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[13:15] <Peace-> releases |
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[13:16] <jussi> Peace-: thats what I thought... |
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[13:16] <jussi> just that lordievader called !rescue before... |
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[13:16] <jussi> !rescue |
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[13:16] <ubottu> To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system" |
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[13:16] <jussi> does ubuntu have an alt cd ? |
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[13:16] <lordievader> I figured it would point to how to boot into the rescue mode, it didn't. |
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[13:17] <Peace-> jussi: i don't remember well but that option should be on normal cd |
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[13:17] <Peace-> on ubuntu cd |
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[13:17] <jussi> I dont think so... |
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[13:18] <Riddell> "There have been repeated failed attempts to gain access to a wallet. An application may be misbehaving." should I be worried that plasma-nm can't talk to my kwallet suddenly? |
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[13:29] * BluesKaj doesn't bother kwallet, it's a pita for home users like me, tuning it off solves a lot of annoyances |
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[14:00] <sgclark> Riddell: hopefully fixed dpic up |
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[14:05] * Riddell takes a keek |
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[14:07] <Riddell> sgclark: looking lovely, uploaded to experimental PPA! |
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[14:08] <sgclark> thanks :) cirkuit coming soon |
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=== apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - So Blue. | https://trello.com/kubuntu | 4.12.1 WIP http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | bugs https://tinyurl.com/ovfcj78 | build status http://goo.gl/cjEFkO | ISO testing http://goo.gl/cRAawa | Discover Featured Apps http://goo.gl/OlIky1 |
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[14:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: btw, please try to make the touchpad blog post less technical ^^ |
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[14:39] <shadeslayer> :S |
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[14:45] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: I started appending stuff to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu so we don't forget |
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[14:45] <Riddell> great |
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[14:51] <sgclark> phonon-backend-null_4.7.1-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb: Size mismatch what does this mean? |
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[14:52] <Riddell> sgclark: glitch in the matrix? |
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[14:52] <Riddell> try and apt-get update && apt-get install phonon-backend-null |
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[14:52] <sgclark> happening in pbuilder, updating now |
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[14:53] <sgclark> hrmm no help |
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[14:53] <Riddell> remove the cache? |
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[14:53] <Riddell> not sure how you do that with pbuilder |
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[14:54] <sgclark> ok |
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[14:54] <Riddell> rm /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache/* |
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[14:54] <apachelogger> nah |
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[14:54] <apachelogger> apt-get clean |
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[14:54] <apachelogger> one does not delete the cache manually :P |
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[14:55] <Riddell> but how you run that for pbuilder? |
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[14:55] <Riddell> it doesn't use the normal apt cache |
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[14:55] <Riddell> pbuilder --clean might help |
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[15:04] <sgclark> apt-get clean did nthing, will try that |
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[15:06] <sgclark> nope, hmm |
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[15:07] <jarkko_> W: GPG error: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: usuallly pbuilder will share the apt cache unless explicitly told not to |
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[15:11] <apachelogger> so cleaning the host will clean it for pbuilder as well |
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[15:11] <Riddell> oh? so what is /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache/ for? |
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[15:12] <apachelogger> hardlinks |
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[15:12] <apachelogger> that being said, if you were to use different partitions for the various caches it would also not be shared |
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[15:12] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://i.imgur.com/gzmL8ss.png can we get a screenshot there somehow? |
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[15:14] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: of what? |
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[15:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I propose https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/p206x206/168621_192469560772608_4286474_n.jpg |
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[15:17] <apachelogger> better than the red thing for sure |
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[15:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: kdevelop or qt creator with some codez |
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[15:17] <apachelogger> or vim for all I care |
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[15:17] <apachelogger> something code anyway |
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[15:17] <shadeslayer> ack |
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[15:17] <apachelogger> or |
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[15:17] <shadeslayer> snapshot of techbase |
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[15:17] <sgclark> cleaned host and pbuilder with --autocleanaptcache fixed one phonon package but not another is broken. weird... |
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[15:18] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: ask apol whether we could simply make discover display the icon when no screnshot could be loaded |
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[15:18] <apachelogger> that would resolve this ugly red thing for most apps |
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[15:18] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: apol says that it's wrong to not have a screenshot |
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[15:19] <shadeslayer> we could just reuse the kdevelop screenshot? |
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[15:19] <apachelogger> if it is a nice one |
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[15:19] <apachelogger> just need something there, that red thing looks terribad |
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[15:20] <shadeslayer> add a card |
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[15:20] <shadeslayer> or report a bug |
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[15:20] <shadeslayer> and assign to me |
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[15:20] <apachelogger> report a card |
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[15:20] <shadeslayer> ^^ |
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[15:20] <apachelogger> card a report |
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[15:20] <apachelogger> no wait |
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[15:20] <apachelogger> THIS IS SILLY |
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[15:20] * apachelogger slaps shadeslayer with a fish and bugs a card |
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[15:21] <apachelogger> also one wonders why that package is 46k |
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[15:21] <apachelogger> much confusion has been had |
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[15:22] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1278912] Wrong graph legend for network manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278912 (by Hồng Quân) |
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[15:23] <apachelogger> Size: 2764 |
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[15:23] <apachelogger> very peculiar how disocver gets that value |
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[15:23] <apachelogger> oh well |
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[15:23] * apachelogger quickly forgets about it again before this ends in a bug hunt |
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[15:36] * apachelogger afk |
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[15:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: where do I leave comments about policy? |
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[15:47] <Riddell> e-mail? here? edit the wiki? |
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[15:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger http://paste.kde.org/pycfeqxpt |
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[15:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you upload tomahawk for me |
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[15:51] <shadeslayer> link to dsc coming up in 5 minutes |
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[15:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it's a wiki plz apply random fixer00 :P |
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[15:53] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. |
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[15:53] <Riddell> hmm, that seems quite unflexible |
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[15:54] <apachelogger> that's the point of it |
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[15:54] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/tomahawk_0.7.0%2Bdfsg1-0ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc |
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[15:54] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: sure, I understand that, but we've broken that policy before |
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[15:54] <apachelogger> becaue if you patch shit and upstream does not agree then you are effectively forking the upstream software |
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[15:54] <Riddell> sometimes upstream can be wrong? |
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[15:54] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the present version of the maverick policy was never approved I think |
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[15:55] <apachelogger> Riddell: then you are to fork the upstream software |
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[15:55] <apachelogger> or convince upstream of their wrongful ways |
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[15:56] <Riddell> ooh ahoneybun getting into packaging? |
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[15:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: these are the same items or separate? * Update copyright file a bit * Add LGPL-2.1 license |
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[15:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: separate |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: complete copy of the license was missing |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> so I added it |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: right, we had a policy in theory, just not written down that we don't ship patches unless approved by upstream |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yet we shipped the kwallet patch |
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[15:57] <apachelogger> it was written down |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> when upstream had a differing opinion |
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[15:57] <apachelogger> it was not approved |
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[15:57] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fine, my point remains |
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[15:57] <apachelogger> effectively we did not have a policy |
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[15:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, and doing that caused tention with upstream developers |
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[15:58] <shadeslayer> right so even if upstream differs in opinion we don't ship said patch? |
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[15:58] <apachelogger> which is why the rewrite of the policy is as undynamic as it is (the previous version also wasn't exactly flexible ^^) |
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[15:58] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: exactly |
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[15:58] <apachelogger> or you official fork upstream |
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[15:58] <apachelogger> making yourself upstream |
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[15:58] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: does that mean post new policy we remove the kwallet patch then ? |
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[15:59] <apachelogger> which will also create social problems but if there is technical failure I get to call people names |
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[15:59] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes, I thought we had done that already? |
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[15:59] <shadeslayer> we have? |
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[16:00] <apachelogger> last fortnight QA yielded kwallet init dialogs |
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[16:00] <apachelogger> (and IIRC the dialog actually defaulted to gpg which was a bit odd in itself ^^) |
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[16:00] <shadeslayer> ack |
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[16:00] <shadeslayer> cool then, but I'd clarify in policy tbh |
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[16:00] <apachelogger> Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. |
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[16:01] <apachelogger> I think that's pretty clear? :P |
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[16:01] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: what about a difference of opinion on how said upstream software should behave |
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[16:01] <apachelogger> Whenever upstream does not approve of a patch on the basis of technical problems, it must not be included or must be removed. There is no exception to this rule. |
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[16:01] <apachelogger> note that last sentence |
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[16:01] <shadeslayer> I see |
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[16:01] <shadeslayer> ok |
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[16:02] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: - Clarify if software in Extragear and scratch repos counts as official KDE Software |
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[16:02] <shadeslayer> anything on the KDE infra counts as KDE Software? |
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[16:03] <apachelogger> I would rather think so, yes |
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[16:03] <Riddell> any software which comes from KDE |
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[16:03] <apachelogger> only kde related nonsense ought to go there |
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[16:03] <Riddell> which could be outside the kde infrastructure according to the manifesto (but not anything so far) |
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[16:04] <shadeslayer> alright, what happened to Patch type C? |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> so everything on kde infra is nonsenese related to KDE, thus KDE may feel responsible or not |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> if they do, then hooray, if not then oh well |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what do you mean? |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> ah |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: type d is d because of DANGER |
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[16:04] <apachelogger> xD |
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[16:05] <apachelogger> quite literally when I read the old policy again the first thing that popped to mind when reading that last patch type description was a danger sign with a godzillion exclamation marks ^^ |
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[16:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: yeah, of course that part of the manifesto makes it impossibru to generally identify such software, so I think if we just hold on to either hosted on git.kde or using bugs.kde we have a pretty good ruleset for identification |
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[16:08] <apachelogger> which would also have covered amarok during the git migration through gitorious as bugs were still handled on bugs.kde |
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[16:08] <apachelogger> equally kaffeine I think was developed on sf.net but bugs on kde |
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[16:09] <Riddell> Quintasan: fancy packaging ktp 0.7.1 ? |
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[16:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: How long till Freeze? I might want to get it into Debian if it's not there. |
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[16:10] <Riddell> um, no rush I think |
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[16:10] <Quintasan> Riddell: I'll start working on it then |
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[16:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: it's packaged |
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[16:10] <shadeslayer> I haven't QA'd it |
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[16:11] <Quintasan> eh |
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[16:11] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: for Ubuntu or Debian? |
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[16:11] <shadeslayer> youboontoo |
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[16:11] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly?field.series_filter=trusty |
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[16:11] <Riddell> ooh groovy |
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[16:12] <shadeslayer> if anyone wants to, plz test and upload ^^ |
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[16:13] <Riddell> Quintasan: can you test? |
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[16:14] <Quintasan> Riddell: Certainly |
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[16:14] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: How about you do that for Debian and poke me or detrout so we can just sync in then |
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[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: how do I revert a part of a pushed commit? |
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[16:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ENOTIME today |
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[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: in bzr ofcourse |
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[16:14] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I'm talking about future occurences |
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[16:14] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: sure |
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[16:15] <Quintasan> Splendid. |
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[16:15] <Riddell> shadeslayer: bzr uncommit (can't do part as far as I know) |
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[16:18] <shadeslayer> ffffuuuuu |
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[16:18] <shadeslayer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/165569934/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-amd64.cmake_2.8.12.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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[16:20] <Riddell> why are you building cmake for precise? |
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[16:20] <shadeslayer> Riddell: kde-workspace won't build without cmake from trusty |
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[16:21] <Riddell> hmm gosh |
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[16:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: FWIW I'm doing KF5 |
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[16:22] <shadeslayer> possibly using scripts |
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[16:23] <shadeslayer> lets see how that goes |
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[16:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer: alpha 1? awesomeness |
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[16:23] <shadeslayer> yeah |
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[16:23] <Riddell> adapting the kubuntu-automation script would seem the way to go |
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[16:23] <shadeslayer> *nod* |
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[16:24] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1278912] Wrong graph legend for network manager @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1278912 (by Hồng Quân) |
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[16:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I don't reckon you have a mapping of KDE source names to Kubuntu source names |
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[17:04] <shadeslayer> yofel: ping |
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[17:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: for kf5? they should all be the same except attica |
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[17:04] <shadeslayer> okay |
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[17:05] <sgclark> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916031/ |
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[17:06] <Riddell> sgclark: tsk clashing files, that can just be renamed at install time |
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[17:06] <shadeslayer> Riddell: do you have a clue how bzr-buildpackage works? |
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[17:07] <shadeslayer> i.e. where it looks for the orig tarball |
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[17:07] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it works multiple ways and looks in multiple places for the orig tar |
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[17:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: locally? |
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[17:07] <Riddell> yes locally first, and in the bzr branch for UDD branches, then it'll fall back on debian/watch I think |
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[17:07] <shadeslayer> right, but where locally |
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[17:07] <Riddell> locally it just looks in .. I think |
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[17:08] <Riddell> it'll also try to apt-get source |
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[17:08] <soee> shadeslayer: if you try to refresh list of drivers in kubuntu-driver-manager whole system settings app crashes :) |
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[17:08] <shadeslayer> soee: yeah known issue |
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[17:09] <soee> ah ok :) anyway looks nice so far |
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[17:09] <shadeslayer> soee: only when you hit it twice though right? |
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[17:09] <sgclark> Riddell: patch the source or is there a way to rename in debian files? |
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[17:09] <soee> shadeslayer: ee i run it first time it fetched list of drivers, i clicked to refresch and crash |
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[17:09] <shadeslayer> mmm that's pretty bad |
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[17:09] <shadeslayer> weird how it worked when I released it >.> |
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[17:10] <shadeslayer> soee: I have a backtrace, I need to rework large parts and update |
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[17:10] <soee> shadeslayer: it will land by default in 14.04 ? |
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[17:10] <shadeslayer> yep |
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[17:10] <soee> ok, nice |
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[17:10] <Riddell> sgclark: I think I'd do it by overriding the install rule and mv the file before running dh_install |
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[17:12] <sgclark> ok |
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[17:12] <soee> i have also some new entry in sys-settings called Diagnostic |
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[17:12] <soee> is it also new ? |
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[17:14] <shadeslayer> soee: yep |
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[17:21] <Riddell> agateau: well my attempts to remaster an image with your ubiquity patches on it have failed to got something I can boot my computer from, works ok on a virtual machine but it doesn't run the first pre-login screen |
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[17:21] <Riddell> I can't find any logs to say that it's even trying so it might just be my remastering that's broken |
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[17:22] <Riddell> currently I'm thinking it'll be easiest to just upload it and see what breaks |
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[17:22] <Riddell> oem installer still works and with a nice background now |
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[17:22] <Riddell> new partition bar is pretty but could do with some more testage |
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[17:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: you might want to start working on attica |
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[17:25] <shadeslayer> Riddell: patches fail to apply |
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[17:25] <shadeslayer> same for frameworkintegration |
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[17:28] <Riddell> pourquoi moi? |
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[17:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you can just remove both patched |
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[17:28] <Riddell> I sent them upstream |
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[17:28] <shadeslayer> kapidox.install is empty? |
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[17:29] <Riddell> it's a 1 .deb package I think |
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[17:29] <Riddell> not needed |
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[17:29] <Riddell> frameworkintegration fix_icons_path.diff can go, I think the other patch is still needed |
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[17:29] <shadeslayer> I'm saying that you have a debian/kapidox.install :) |
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[17:30] <Riddell> yes, you can just remove it |
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[17:33] <shadeslayer> Riddell: was Rename-CheckXML-to-resolve-conflict.diff forwarded? |
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[17:35] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep |
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[17:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: Rename-manpages-to-resolve-conflict-with-kde4.diff ? |
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[17:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: also upstream |
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[17:40] <soee> 14.04 will use lightdm? There were some rumors that it will be replaced (maybe when KF5 shows up)? |
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[17:41] <Riddell> it won't be replaced in 14.04 |
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[17:41] <Riddell> we hope to go with whatever upstream chooses after that, SDDM is the competition |
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[17:41] <cortexA9> Riddell: hello :) |
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[17:41] <Riddell> hi cortexA9 |
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[17:41] <soee> Riddell: ok good to know |
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[17:44] <shadeslayer> Riddell: rename_dbus.diff in Solid? |
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[17:44] <sgclark> Riddell: cirkuit ready |
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[17:44] <Riddell> sgclark: upstream |
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[17:44] <Riddell> no |
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[17:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: upstream |
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[17:44] <sgclark> ? |
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[17:44] <sgclark> ok |
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[17:45] <Riddell> sgclark: will look in a sec |
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[17:47] <shadeslayer> Riddell: no-install-dbus-interfaces.diff for kglobalaccel? |
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[17:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: upstreamed |
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[17:47] <Riddell> they've all been upstreamed, I've been a good boy :) |
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[17:47] <shadeslayer> oh, so drop all patches then? |
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[17:47] <Riddell> hmm well maybe the kauth ones were after the alpha |
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[17:48] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I belive upstreamed too |
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[17:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: plz have a look at attica |
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[17:56] <shadeslayer> I am unsure about those patches |
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[17:56] <Riddell> shadeslayer: they've both gone upstream |
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[17:57] <shadeslayer> same for kio? |
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[17:59] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep |
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[17:59] <yofel> shadeslayer: pong? |
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[18:00] <Riddell> sgclark: comments http://paste.kde.org/pzjwo5bpd |
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[18:00] <shadeslayer> yofel: nvm |
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[18:00] <yofel> k |
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[18:04] <sgclark> Riddell: package name does not match so-name is reason to split. putting executable in lib package seemed wrong |
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[18:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: uploading first set of packages |
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[18:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: still need to work through a few of them |
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[18:06] <sgclark> Riddell: it would not build without dpic |
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[18:07] <sgclark> Riddell: scratch last one |
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[18:08] <sgclark> Riddell: lost me on #9, I never saw that |
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[18:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: all of these need to be done |
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[18:13] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/psafkbfir |
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[18:13] <shadeslayer> I have to stop since the alloted time for KF5 is done :) |
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[18:17] * Riddell wonders when shadeslayer became such a slave to schedule |
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[18:18] <Riddell> sgclark: line 9 is what I get when first running it |
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[18:18] <Riddell> rm ~/.kde/share/apps/cirkuit and run again and you should get it |
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[18:18] <Riddell> I think that's just how the program works but seems like a strange way to work |
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[18:19] <sgclark> ok I get it, but I don't know what I can do to fix it |
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[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: if it needs dpic to build then keep it in build-deps but also add it to Depends for the .deb package |
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[18:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ever since I realized I had no life outside of work because I spent way too much time doing the small things :) |
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[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: no fix needed, if that's what upstream wants that's what upstream will get |
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[18:19] * yofel passes shadeslayer a cup of coffee |
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[18:19] <sgclark> will fix dpic, you were right not needed for build |
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[18:19] <Riddell> sgclark: can you get the programme to do anything useful? |
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[18:20] <shadeslayer> :) |
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[18:20] <sgclark> Riddell: I don't know how to build circuits |
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[18:21] <Riddell> circuits? |
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[18:21] <sgclark> Riddell: that is what this program is for, printed circuit board creation |
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[18:21] <Riddell> oh you mean the real ones you model in citkuit :) |
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[18:21] <sgclark> right lol |
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[18:22] <sgclark> it seems examples are not installed though, hmm |
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[18:23] <Riddell> but you can download them |
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[18:23] <Riddell> when I try one it complains about missing a file in texlive-latex-extra, installing |
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[18:23] <Riddell> only 300MB |
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[18:31] <sgclark> Riddell: fixed dpic to depend on runtime. in ubuntu one. |
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[18:32] <sgclark> I am sure folks that actually build circuits in programs like these would know how to make this program useful. I saw alot of praise on their website |
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[18:36] <Riddell> sgclark: hey if I install texlive-latex-extra then it begins to work |
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[18:37] <Riddell> so add that to the depends |
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[18:37] <sgclark> ok will do |
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[18:37] <Riddell> ooh pretty diagrams |
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[18:37] <Riddell> yes you do need to know what you're doing to use this programme I think |
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[18:37] <Riddell> but the examples are nice |
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[18:43] <shadeslayer> so man FTBFS's :) |
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[18:50] <sgclark> Riddell: that did the trick :) fixed uploaded |
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[18:51] <Riddell> sgclark: copyright still says LGPL |
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[18:51] <sgclark> oops |
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[18:57] <sgclark> Riddell: fixed uploaded |
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[19:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://kshadeslayer.wordpress.com/?p=326&shareadraft=52fa7345203a7 < review plz |
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[19:01] <Riddell> sgclark: upstream lists a few more dependencies needed http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/magostin/cirkuit.html |
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[19:02] <sgclark> Riddell: ok |
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[19:02] <Riddell> sgclark: can you try adding a watch file, upstream hasn't got a nice neat download page unfortunately but you should be able to point it at http://wwwu.uni-klu.ac.at/magostin/cirkuit.html for links |
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[19:04] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ping |
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[19:06] <Riddell> shadeslayer: reads good |
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[19:07] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: pong |
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[19:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: cheers |
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[19:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: halp |
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[19:07] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pytifsehy |
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[19:08] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: code is http://paste.kde.org/pbjmje1f0 |
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[19:08] <shadeslayer> hm, no proper licensing in there |
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[19:09] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: anyway, the problem is, when I hit refresh now, my older connect calls are still active, hence the ui gets double the number of entries |
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[19:10] <shadeslayer> so I could a) make the QDBusPendingCallWatcher variable a private member and disconnect calls in the refresh function |
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[19:10] <shadeslayer> or b) I could make it more async the way I made driver fetching more async |
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[19:10] <sgclark> Riddell: deps added, attempt at watch file added, uploaded |
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[19:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: Qt::SingleConnection or somesuch |
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[19:10] <shadeslayer> oh |
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[19:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: cheers |
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[19:11] <apachelogger> it's an argument for connect |
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[19:12] <apachelogger> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt.html#ConnectionType-enum |
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[19:12] <shadeslayer> thx |
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[19:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: the timeout code is still wrong btw |
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[19:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: oh? |
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[19:14] <apachelogger> each function should have timer.stop() at the beginning and timer.start at the end |
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[19:14] <apachelogger> i.e. you do not want to autoterminate while things are happening |
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[19:14] <apachelogger> that's why I originally said the timeout should be relatively low |
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[19:14] <shadeslayer> hmmm |
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[19:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: well, I'm thinking of eliminating timer since it can take more than 25 seconds as witnessed on David's machine |
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[19:15] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you still need autotermination |
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[19:15] <apachelogger> it shoud not happen while you are inside a function though |
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[19:15] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: true, however autotermination needs figuring out |
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[19:15] <apachelogger> which is why you need to stop and start the timer respectively |
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[19:16] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that's what I just explained.... |
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[19:16] <apachelogger> you have a timer that is active whenever you are idle |
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[19:16] <shadeslayer> oh |
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[19:16] <shadeslayer> ahah |
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[19:16] <shadeslayer> got it |
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[19:16] <apachelogger> watch out for syncness though |
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[19:16] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Qt::UniqueConnection right? |
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[19:17] <apachelogger> if one calls function a and then function b, be should not start the timer |
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[19:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: yes |
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[19:17] <apachelogger> I am wondering though |
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[19:17] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: when would it call connect twice? |
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[19:17] <shadeslayer> QDBusPendingCallWatcher async = new QDBusPendingCallWatcher(driverForDeviceMap, this); |
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[19:17] <shadeslayer> object is destroyed with kcm exit |
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[19:18] <shadeslayer> old connects still in place |
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[19:18] <apachelogger> ah |
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[19:18] <apachelogger> in the cpp code |
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[19:18] <shadeslayer> yep |
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[19:18] <apachelogger> why did you paste me the python then :P |
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[19:18] <shadeslayer> because I was going for solution a) |
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[19:18] <apachelogger> ah |
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[19:19] <apachelogger> well, fwiw, I personally prefer manual disconnnects but I am weird with explicitness of code |
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[19:19] <apachelogger> much like I prefer manual point management over using qpointer |
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[19:19] <apachelogger> forces one to know what one is doing ^^ |
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[19:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw are you sure this will work |
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[19:19] <apachelogger> alas, if one doesn't know then shit goes wrong ;) |
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[19:19] <shadeslayer> because apparently everything must match, even the object |
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[19:19] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: what? uniqueconnection? |
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[19:19] <shadeslayer> yews |
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[19:20] <shadeslayer> "i.e., if the same signal is already connected to the same slot for the same pair of objects," |
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[19:20] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: a connection cannot be duplicated unless it is exactly the same |
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[19:20] <shadeslayer> objects are different in this case |
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[19:20] <shadeslayer> since I have a new call in there |
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[19:20] <apachelogger> post dat cpp plz |
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[19:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/pmalqfntr |
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[19:21] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how is that causing the typerror you pasted? |
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[19:21] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: it's not |
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[19:22] <apachelogger> you are confusing me |
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[19:22] <shadeslayer> the typerror was caused when I was going for solution a |
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[19:22] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fine, let's start from the beginning |
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[19:22] <apachelogger> well solution a is nonense |
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[19:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: let me show you |
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[19:23] <apachelogger> just tell me what the problem is |
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[19:24] <apachelogger> although I think I see it already ^^ |
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[19:24] <Riddell> sgclark: "Initial release closes: LP: #12345" you're supposed to replace that 12345 with the bug number :) |
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[19:24] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils (Ubuntu) "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 |
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[19:25] <sgclark> Riddell: gah, oops, sorry lol |
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[19:25] <Riddell> sgclark: I'll upload to experimental |
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[19:25] <sgclark> Riddell: did you fix that then? |
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[19:25] <Riddell> sgclark: yep |
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[19:25] <sgclark> Riddell: thanks! |
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[19:25] <Riddell> we'll get a third opinion on it then upload to the archive |
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[19:25] <sgclark> Riddell: anything else I can work on? |
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[19:26] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: when I hit refresh now : http://im9.eu/picture/l15690 |
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[19:26] <Riddell> sgclark: you could update the verson of gtk2-engines-oxygen ? |
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[19:27] <shadeslayer> Qt::UniqueConnection does not help btw |
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[19:27] <apachelogger> yeha that's expected |
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[19:27] <ScottK> Riddell: We're waiting on Qt 5.2 for your Frameworks 5 packages to go in, right? |
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[19:27] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: because async is not the same object? |
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[19:27] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: and you are sure that happens because of 4 calls into driverMapFinished? |
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[19:27] <apachelogger> i.e. did you actually insert a qdebug in there and check |
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[19:28] <Riddell> ScottK: we would need 5.2 for the kf5 packages, dunno if I want to upload them to the archive in alpha state |
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[19:28] <Riddell> sgclark: and gtk3 https://projects.kde.org/ |
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[19:28] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: yep http://paste.kde.org/ptfpqam8r |
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[19:29] <Riddell> sgclark: uploaded to experimental! |
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[19:29] * Riddell cycles off |
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[19:29] <sgclark> Riddell: ok, I am unclear on updating exsisting packages, will try to figure it out |
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[19:29] <ScottK> Riddell: 5.2 is in Debian, so maybe it should go to Debian Experimental first anyway. Then we can decide what to do. |
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[19:29] <Riddell> sgclark: just ask anyone here |
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[19:29] <apachelogger> oh god paste.kde :@ |
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[19:30] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: oh, quite possibly at the begging of the slot you want to call data.disconnect() and at the end data.deleteLater() |
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[19:30] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I do call data.deleteLater |
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[19:31] <apachelogger> oh well |
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[19:31] <apachelogger> is that code pushed>? |
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[19:32] <shadeslayer> nope |
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[19:32] <shadeslayer> I don't call data->disconnect() though |
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[19:32] <shadeslayer> trying with that |
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[19:32] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: doesn't work :( |
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[19:33] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: is that code pushed? |
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[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: pushed |
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[19:34] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: without data->disconnect though |
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[19:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: void Module::driverDictFinished(QVariantMapMap data) is being called twice |
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[19:36] <apachelogger> and that does not seem to have a delete or disconnect |
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[19:37] <shadeslayer> oh hmm |
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[19:37] <apachelogger> ah |
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[19:37] <apachelogger> m_manager is scoped |
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[19:37] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: that needs the uniqueconnection :P |
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[19:37] <shadeslayer> makes sense |
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[19:38] <apachelogger> connect(m_manager, SIGNAL(dataReady(QVariantMapMap)), SLOT(driverDictFinished(QVariantMapMap)), Qt::UniqueConnection); |
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[19:38] <apachelogger> :P |
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[19:38] <shadeslayer> right |
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[19:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: learn to printf debug plz :P |
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[19:38] <shadeslayer> >.> |
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[19:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: there's a ui state bug I just noticed, while you are loading the reload button is still enabled |
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[19:39] <apachelogger> so I can still forcefully trigger the device duplication if I simply keep hitting the button |
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[19:39] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/fJdpnCv.png |
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[19:39] <shadeslayer> heh |
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[19:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: FWIW, it may be worthwhile to introduce a saveguard against this duplication |
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[19:40] <apachelogger> since I guess you have the device id somewhere it would be easy to simply check whether deviceid is already in the list of widgets and only add if not |
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[19:45] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: I hope you took notes of what I spewed because I am not :P |
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[19:45] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: fixed the reload button |
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[19:46] <shadeslayer> but not sure about the duplication thing |
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[19:46] <shadeslayer> *might* be possible |
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[19:46] <shadeslayer> can't say |
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[19:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: will have a look tomorrow in any case |
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[19:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: can you check if your crash is fixed? |
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[19:48] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: also, I'm not sure what data structure to use to track state for the apply button :) |
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[19:48] <shadeslayer> I was thinking of a sorted QStringList |
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[19:48] <shadeslayer> but that seems inefficient |
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[19:49] <shadeslayer> anyt thoughts on a better way? |
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[19:49] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: love the look of the new driver manager |
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[19:49] <sgclark> I am trying to figure out how to update existing packages, stuck at stage 1. uscan warning: In debian/watch no matching files for watch line. But there is a new version, ideas? |
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[19:49] <shadeslayer> ahoneybun: good to hear :) |
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[19:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: huh? |
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[19:49] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: you know when you are fetching and you know when you are done fetching, no? |
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[19:50] <apachelogger> so fetching = setEnabled(false) and !fetching = setEnabled(true) |
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[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: for the apply button? |
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[19:50] <apachelogger> yes |
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[19:50] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: My question was more related to when you do : select driver a -> select driver b -> select driver a -> apply button is still enabled |
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[19:51] <shadeslayer> or if you just click driver a again |
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[19:51] <shadeslayer> then the apply button becomes enabled |
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[19:52] <apachelogger> there's like a godzillion optionsfor that |
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[19:52] <shadeslayer> I'm all ears |
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[19:52] <apachelogger> bool DriverWidget::hasChanged() |
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[19:52] <apachelogger> int DriverWidget::m_defaultSelection |
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[19:53] <apachelogger> or actually |
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[19:53] <apachelogger> perhaps wire up signals between DriverWidget instances and the KCM's changed signal |
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[19:54] <apachelogger> I'd definitely simply have an int denoting the default selection and then evaluate changedness by comparing the selected driver entry with the default one |
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[19:54] <shadeslayer> hmmm |
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[19:54] <shadeslayer> ojk |
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[20:07] <sgclark> ok I fixed the watch file, but it has debian git-import-orig and I get ( is not a git repository) error. |
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[20:17] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: how do you get the kde infra to send emails via scratch repos ? :P |
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[20:19] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and do you reckon http://paste.ubuntu.com/6916989/ the correct fix for bug 1278826 |
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[20:19] <ubottu> bug 1278826 in kubuntu-driver-manager (Ubuntu) "selecting driver, but denying authorization bugs out state tracking" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1278826 |
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[20:23] <apachelogger> possibly |
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[20:23] <apachelogger> doesn't look all too wrong anyway |
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[20:23] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: and re https://trello.com/c/aR2V1zm7/97-firefox-import-bookmarks-from-rekonq-kde-somehow , documentation should be written in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu ? |
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[20:23] <shadeslayer> or linked to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu and a new page on techbase |
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[20:31] <soee> ha this is not true: Mozilla Firefox 27 :D |
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[20:31] <soee> atm it is Mozilla Firefox 25 |
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[20:33] <shadeslayer> soee: nope, it's 27 |
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[20:33] <shadeslayer> or it should be |
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[20:33] <shadeslayer> atleast saucy has 27 |
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[20:33] <soee> yes i agree it should be but isnt :) there is beta in proposed |
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[20:33] <shadeslayer> yeah |
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[20:42] <shadeslayer> so hungry :( |
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[20:45] <shadeslayer> I broke something http://im9.eu/picture/s15690 |
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[20:46] * mamarley wonders why no-one seems to use sub-pixel rendering anymore... |
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[20:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: release notes |
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[20:46] <apachelogger> the official ones |
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[20:46] <apachelogger> no clue where we do those |
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[20:46] <apachelogger> Riddell or ScottK proably know |
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[20:46] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/Beta1/Kubuntu |
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[20:47] <shadeslayer> aren't those the release notes? |
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[20:47] <shadeslayer> either way, can't do shit, moin moin is broken |
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[20:47] <shadeslayer> mamarley: we have a task to investigate sub pixel rendering, want to take that up? |
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[20:48] <mamarley> Investigate it? |
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[20:48] <shadeslayer> mamarley: https://trello.com/c/0tn1vYPN |
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[20:48] <shadeslayer> mamarley: idk, that's what the card says :P |
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[20:49] <shadeslayer> I've been running the settinsg on that bug for a bit |
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[20:49] <shadeslayer> and I can't tell the difference |
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[20:49] <mamarley> Hmm... Just about everyone uses LCDs these days, so enabling it by default would probably make sense. |
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[20:50] <ScottK> shadeslayer: That's a pretty ancient python there. |
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[20:51] <mamarley> There is, however, a "bug" in Qt that causes subpixel rendering to be disabled on just about any translucent surface (such as the KDE panel.) |
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[20:51] <shadeslayer> ScottK: I'd be surprised if they were running a new python on the wiki :P |
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[20:51] <ScottK> The last Ubuntu release that had python2.6 was lucid. |
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[20:52] <shadeslayer> ScottK: heh, aren't all the buildd's running warty ;) |
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[20:52] <ScottK> Not anymore. |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> oh ? :D |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> Did that change recently? |
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[20:53] <shadeslayer> phew, KDE integration patches apply cleanly |
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[20:53] <ScottK> For a long time the powerpc buildds ran dapper even after hardy was released. |
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[20:53] <ScottK> Other than that, sparc was the only one that substantially lagged. |
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[20:54] <ScottK> Generally they're running the last LTS. |
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[20:56] <shadeslayer> I see |
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[20:58] * shadeslayer heads home |
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[20:59] <shadeslayer> cya tomorrow |
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[21:30] <shadeslayer> ScottK: do you know where I could a migration guide for users so that they could import their KDE Bookmarks into Firefox? |
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[21:30] <shadeslayer> *could put a |
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[21:35] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide |
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[21:36] <shadeslayer> needs screenshots |
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[22:07] <Riddell> anyone able to review dpic and cirkuit in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental/+packages ? |
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[22:09] <ScottK> shadeslayer: No. Sorry. |
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[22:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you use kubuntu-automation? |
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[22:36] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please use fix committed when a change is in a VCS but not uploaded |
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[22:37] <apachelogger> otherwise we run risk of forgetting to upload |
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[22:39] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: please run by our docs heros |
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[22:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: not quite |
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[22:44] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: I was planning to do a upload tomorrow |
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[22:45] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/psxhbeosr |
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[22:51] <soee_> another more or less happy user https://plus.google.com/u/0/112543117923336622039/posts/CNiFeLCLRrg :) |
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[22:54] <shadeslayer> valorie: ahoneybun review plz https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-migration-guide |
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[22:57] <ahoneybun> shadeslayer: I can tell you I don't have "keditbookmarks" |
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[22:57] <shadeslayer> o_o |
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[22:57] <ahoneybun> without the quotes |
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[22:57] <shadeslayer> your install sounds broken |
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[22:58] <shadeslayer> because that comes from kde-baseapps-bin |
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[22:58] <ahoneybun> well if we will have firefox as default in 14.4 should we not just link/write about using firefox bookmark export/import usage? |
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[22:59] <ahoneybun> g2g |
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[23:00] <shadeslayer> well, this is for people who use KDE software to manage their bookmarks |
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