| [00:04] <Unit193> Should be able to mute one source and unmute the other, but I tend to play in audacity to check things out. | |
| [00:08] <FuuqUmiist> i can't get it to work on audacity | |
| [03:31] <FuuqUmiist> so no one knows how to change the audio input? | |
| [03:32] <ianorlin> maybe try amixer | |
| [03:32] <ianorlin> although alsamixer is more convient | |
| [04:36] <FuuqUmiist> what is the keyboard shortcut to change desktops | |
| [04:44] <Unit193> Ctrl+Alt+Left or Right. | |
| [04:47] <FuuqUmiist> so lubuntu is the best linux that is as lightweight and user friendly as Windows XP? | |
| [05:05] <ianorlin> also alt+mousewheel works | |
| [05:12] <greeter> oh dear... | |
| [12:13] <SLit_> Hi! I have trouble installing lubuntu. When I chose install or try after I while I get just mouse cursor and monitor just flashing. Like someone is shuting down and then open it again | |
| [14:03] <Kaylors> Quick question: I have a HP 431 with AMD Radeon 7450M and Intel HD 3000 hybrid graphics. Are there proper drivers for Lubuntu or will I be screwed over as with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS? | |
| [14:06] <Kaylors> Seriously? No one? | |
| [14:13] <Myrtti> if you're expecting immediate answers, you're going to have a bad time | |
| [14:14] <Myrtti> patience is kind of expected asset | |
| [14:14] <Mikaela> Kaylors: If you install jockey-gtk, it should show if there are propietary drivers available for easy installation. | |
| [14:15] <Kaylors> Mikaela: Thanks... | |
| [14:25] <lnx2> i | |
| [17:12] <koell> i would like to install lubuntu on a netbook. should i use 32 or 64bit for? | |
| [17:15] <PaulW2U> koell: Which version you install will depend on your processor. My netbook has a 32-bit processor so a 32-bit installation is the only option. | |
| [17:17] <koell> PaulW2U: it's a asus emachine em350 with intel atom cpu | |
| [17:20] <koell> the intel atom n450 has 64bit, i will just try it | |
| [17:22] <PaulW2U> koell: if the installation hangs when installing 64-bit then it's probably a 32-bit processor :o) | |
| [17:23] <koell> PaulW2U: okey, so i will know it immediately, fine | |
| [17:41] <koell> wow lubuntu runs really smooth. even on netbooks <3 | |
| [18:54] <Neppy> hi there; so i'm using lubuntu on my mother's laptop; the screen of the laptop is kinda borked so it can be hard to see anything on there which is why she connects it up to the TV or a monitor which has been working fine for a couple months | |
| [18:55] <Neppy> but now after login the screen just goes black for some reason.. and i heard weird audio "clicks", then when i hit the power button it goes into shutdown screen (visible again instead of just black) and turns off | |
| [18:55] <Neppy> can switch to the console or what it was called just fine... googled a bit and tried xrandr which just says "Can't open display" though | |
| [18:55] <Neppy> the fn button to switch screens does nothing either it seems | |
| [18:55] <Neppy> (the black screen is on the laptop screen that is, and cant seem to get it to display anything on the TV or monitor) | |
| [18:56] <Neppy> any ideas? | |
| [19:05] <wxl> Neppy: what's changed since it worked and when it didn't work? | |
| [19:06] <Neppy> nothing as far as i know; maybe an update but not sure :p i know she started it up once with the TV not connected right at the beginning rather than it being connected; or i think the cable slipped out while it was already on; but i dont think that should break it in such a way? | |
| [19:07] <Neppy> also when i booted into windows it still seemed to work fine so it shouldnt be the port or fn keys that broke | |
| [19:07] <holstein> in those cases, i'll troubleshoot the following.. try booting an earlier kernel. i'll disable the onboard screen in the bios, and try a monitor (not a TV) on the unit.. i'll run "aplay -l" in a terminal to see if the audio hardware is being used | |
| [19:08] <Neppy> i only get those weird audionoise clicks when in lubuntu though, so no clue what those are.. disable onboard screen? how would i turn that back on then though? | |
| [19:08] <holstein> Neppy: why would you turn it back on? | |
| [19:08] <Neppy> well i'd guess to see something, unless im misreading something | |
| [19:08] <holstein> Neppy: i disable broken hardware, personally.. and use an external monitor that is known good via VGA | |
| [19:09] <Neppy> well its broken as in it is flickering | |
| [19:10] <holstein> ok.. i test with a known good monitor, and have a situation that i know works, and i disable the onboard since setting only the external means you can stop messing about with the function keys | |
| [19:10] <holstein> but, i would want to have a known-good monitor setting about that i have used | |
| [19:10] <holstein> Neppy: there was an implied order above.. have you tried booting the older kernel? | |
| [19:11] <Neppy> i havent, not even sure how to do that ^^" | |
| [19:11] <holstein> Neppy: i feel you are stuck on disabling the onboard video.. if that bothers you, dont do it.. im just stating what i would do to rule out possible points of failure | |
| [19:11] <Neppy> well my point is kind of if i turn it off and the monitor doesnt work then im kinda more stuck than i was already | |
| [19:12] <wxl> it's temporary | |
| [19:12] <holstein> Neppy: you should go ahead and plan for that, for when that onboard video breaks.. and as i said, i have a known-good monitor i plug in via VGA | |
| [19:13] <holstein> Neppy: if that is not working for you, dont do it.. | |
| [19:13] <holstein> Neppy: you boot an older kernel by choosing it in grub | |
| [19:13] <Neppy> hmm let me try | |
| [19:14] <holstein> this addresses a kernel upgrade, and lets you see if thats the issue.. if all is well with the older kernel, you can assume a kernel upgrade is breaking your hardware support | |
| [19:15] <wxl> could be some package upgrade though… | |
| [19:16] <holstein> could be alsa firmware, or who knows.. but, kernel upgrades are easy to test for | |
| [19:17] <wxl> maybe xrandr itself | |
| [19:17] <wxl> but, yeah, i'd weed out the kernel | |
| [19:18] <holstein> booting the older kernel takes only a few minutes to test.. | |
| [19:18] <holstein> Neppy: how did the older kernel work? the same? | |
| [19:21] <ianorlin> I wonder if it could be something in X which you could test to see if could still get to tty | |
| [19:21] <wxl> wait | |
| [19:21] <wxl> he did say he could get to tty didn't he? | |
| [19:22] <wxl> 1055 [freenode] < Neppy:#lubuntu> can switch to the console or what it was called just fine... | |
| [19:22] <ianorlin> yes | |
| [19:22] <wxl> not sure exactly how to interpret that but i imagine he can see it | |
| [19:22] <wxl> so it probably is an x issue. still could be a kernel (module) issue. | |
| [19:25] <holstein> Neppy said, or implied he could get to tty | |
| [19:25] <holstein> he/she... | |
| [19:31] <Neppy> *she; older kernel does nothing it seems; also slight correction: the monitor doesnt seem to work on windows either, just the fn keys do; and not while booting either... strangely it goes black while its connected to the laptop though (without connection it just says "No signal") | |
| [19:31] <wxl> that to me, then, sounds like an issue with the display | |
| [19:31] <holstein> Neppy: nothing? so, it doesnt boot *anything*? just a plain black screen? or the same issue on the older kernel? | |
| [19:31] <Neppy> same issue on older kernel | |
| [19:31] <holstein> yup.. the windows support is a great test for the hardware.. | |
| [19:32] <holstein> i would not mess with the software anymore til i test with a different display and cables | |
| [19:32] <Neppy> well the display are screen adn TV with 2 diff cables, so if anything broken maybe the port on the laptop or such | |
| [19:33] <ianorlin> the tv and monitor seem to work fine right | |
| [19:34] <holstein> Neppy: could be that port as well.. | |
| [19:34] <Neppy> hmm wel lthe tv works fine | |
| [19:34] <Neppy> let me test the display screen on my pc | |
| [19:35] <holstein> Neppy: the TV works fine on another input, though | |
| [19:36] <Neppy> well with my fathers laptop the tv works too | |
| [19:37] <ianorlin> then you also know that cable is good | |
| [19:40] <holstein> the cable, and the TV display | |
| [19:40] <holstein> if windows wont work there, then, it makes me think the port, or the motherboard, or something hardware like that | |
| [19:41] <ianorlin> which we can't really fix remotely | |
| [19:41] <holstein> or, in linus software at all :/ | |
| [19:43] <Neppy> well the screen with the same cable also works fine on my PC... so must be the laptop port, video hardware or motherboard | |
| [19:43] <holstein> Neppy: sure seems that way.. | |
| [19:43] <wxl> considering she pulled the cable out or whatever, that's proabably it | |
| [19:43] <holstein> Neppy: is it connecting via VGA? | |
| [19:44] <Neppy> the display? ya, through hdmi/vga adapter but the display thing is vga | |
| [19:45] <holstein> i think, if i had a monitor handy, i would mess about with it and the bios a little.. could be that its toast, but there might be a setting somewhere that works | |
| [19:45] <holstein> at least you know where the issue is, it seems | |
| [19:45] <wxl> that adapter may be your problem, too | |
| [19:45] <Neppy> in what way? | |
| [19:46] <Neppy> the adapter is only for my PC anyway | |
| [19:46] <wxl> not adapters in general, but the adapter may have failed | |
| [19:46] <Neppy> where the display works fine | |
| [19:46] <Neppy> since my gpu has no vga out | |
| [19:46] <holstein> yup.. i would bypass everything you can | |
| [19:48] <Neppy> holstein: hm.. might try that tomorrow - though a bit hard to see the bios on the laptop screen | |
| [19:48] <holstein> Neppy: mostly, when i boot machines with external VGA like that, they post the bios on both the onboard, and external | |
| [19:49] <Neppy> hm well didnt try bios yet but the whole bootup stuff didnt show on the external screen | |
| [19:50] <holstein> Neppy: sure, but if whatever is broken is broken, it wont | |
| [19:50] <Neppy> ^^ | |
| [19:50] <holstein> Neppy: thats not to say that it wouldnt on a VGA monitor normally | |
| [19:51] <holstein> i have just set up a few "headless laptops" in the past... so i have fooled about and spent more time here than i should have :) | |
| [20:01] <Neppy> still wouldnt explain why lubuntu makes those weird click noises - except if its somehow influenced by the broken hardware | |
| [20:01] <holstein> sure... could be bad motherboard, or power related | |
| [20:02] <Neppy> hm | |
| [20:02] <Neppy> well not like it matters much when the video-out doesnt work either way; just curious heh | |
| [20:43] <LuvLinuxOS> hi all | |
| [21:20] <jirido> Hi. | |
| [21:28] <jirido> How do i change what program terminal uses to open links in.. | |
| [21:31] <genii> jirido: What is it currently using? Links2 or something? | |
| [21:46] <jirido> genii: Sad to say it uses chrome even if FF is my default browser | |
| [21:47] <genii> jirido: What says the result of: ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser | |
| [21:49] <Unit193> jirido: Do you click the link with the mouse or how are you trying to open it? | |
| [21:50] <jirido> ill see / mouse so far but i working on it, Just installed screen.. | |
| [21:52] <jirido> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 jan 17 2013 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/chromium-browser | |
| [21:53] <jirido> how do i change that? | |
| [21:53] <jirido> ahh of corse | |
| [21:53] <Unit193> update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/firefox (Do I remember right?) | |
| [21:54] <jirido> o.0--b | |
| [21:55] <Unit193> sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser for something more interactive. | |
| [21:56] <jirido> Un so you meen it askes? | |
| [21:57] <Unit193> Yeah, it'll then ask which you want. | |
| [21:57] <jirido> Ok in popup pr cli? | |
| [21:57] <jirido> or* | |
| [21:59] <Unit193> CLI. | |
| [22:04] <jirido> when i run sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser it does ask if i want to keep the default or choose a number of alternatives.. The only one with automatic and not manual in the end is also labeled chromium.. there is no alternative for just automatic | |
| [22:04] <jirido> Or choose when you click | |
| [22:06] <Unit193> You hit a number there and it'll select that browser as default. | |
| [22:20] <jirido> Unit193: Ok I got it so that there were an alternative to get to choose everytime i click on a link :) Now i get it! Thanks It worked well! | |
| [22:21] <Unit193> You're welcome! | |
| [22:21] <Unit193> genii: ^ | |
| [22:22] <genii> Unit193: Heh :) | |
| [22:22] <Unit193> Your idea. | |
| [22:22] <genii> Unit193: I didn't get a highlight in this channel so didn't get back to the part about configuring it yet :) | |
| [22:24] <jirido> Im now strictly FF Well i have now installed elinx and linx but they dont show in the list.. Could i get them as default also? | |
| [22:25] <Unit193> That's in www-browser | |
| [22:26] <jirido> so they are not www-browsers | |
| [22:27] <jirido> sorry | |
| [22:27] <jirido> now i get it | |
| [22:28] <genii> the www-browser is for when you are in only CLI and not a terminal inside X, the x-www-browser is for the graphical ones | |
| [22:28] <Unit193> Then there is gnome-www-browser too. ;) | |
| [22:29] <genii> jirido: If you so desire, you can add manually entries to the alternatives. I'd have to look up the syntax however, I haven't done it since I was tinkering with different java this way | |
| [22:29] <jirido> one is automatic mode is that the last i opened? | |
| [22:30] <Unit193> They are ranked by numbers, it's telling you which would be default. | |
| [22:32] <jirido> I most look pastebin and youtubevideos people post here with irssi so it would be cool to be able to open them in som www-browswer that suports flash.. but at other times it would be nice to get the link to FF.. but i would go for www-browser | |
| [22:33] <Unit193> A text browser that supports flash, I don't think you've ever used a terminal browser. :) | |
| [22:35] <jirido> i have but im looking right now if i can find a hack | |
| [22:35] <jirido> It would be cool | |
| [22:35] <jirido> Some have image suport i understand | |
| [22:37] <genii> Yes, you can run links2 with -g for instance. It has graphics, and if psmouse driver is loaded, mouse too. But no javascript/java/flash/etc | |
| [22:42] <jirido> Ok.. sad. It would be fun. I dont understand why it is so imposible to run for an example ff in a cli.. with pentadactyl.. | |
| [22:43] <jirido> well that were probably not so smart said.. but i feel it! | |
| [22:46] <jirido> Ohh.. linux.com looked nice | |
| [23:45] <Neppy> well thanks for the help earlier ^^ and night | |