| [00:16] <Whiskey`Wonka> apb1963: no idea if someone can do that to a ppa. there are '2' browsers. the google version of firefox and chrome. not really sure of the exact difference | |
| [00:17] <Whiskey`Wonka> MangaKaDenza: google-earth-stable : Depends: ia32-libs but it is not installable | |
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| [00:24] <valorie> Whiskey`Wonka: I use chromium | |
| [00:24] <valorie> "google version of firefox"? | |
| [00:25] <valorie> mozilla makes firefox, google makes chrome and chromium | |
| [00:26] <Whiskey`Wonka> right, im thinking some base that was on ff, could be confused slightly, ive been up for far far tolong | |
| [00:28] <valorie> well, there are iceweasel, etc. | |
| [00:29] <valorie> which change the branding so they can patch | |
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| [00:35] <Whiskey`Wonka> yea. i need to sleep. been up for 30 some hours dealing with wind damage to a network | |
| [00:52] <jerseydave> new NSA bugg | |
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| [04:40] <tertu> so, this is just a question | |
| [04:41] <tertu> would anybody know what would make upstart eat 96% of my CPU and log until it ate all my disk space | |
| [04:41] <tertu> (i had a 46GB startkde.log file) | |
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| [04:46] <valorie> tertu, please file a bug! | |
| [04:46] <valorie> that sounds quite extreme | |
| [04:47] <valorie> in the cli, run ubuntu-bug upstart | |
| [04:47] <tertu> i don't have that file anymore, sadly | |
| [04:47] <tertu> i had to get rid of it to make my computer become responsive | |
| [04:48] <valorie> I assume you have the beginning of another one though? | |
| [04:48] <tertu> yeah, looks like it | |
| [04:48] <tertu> but i don't know how relevant that is. | |
| [04:49] <valorie> if it is relevant, the devels will probably contact you | |
| [04:49] <valorie> at the very least, the information will be there for them to consult | |
| [04:49] <valorie> it's always worthwhile to submit a bug report | |
| [04:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Wow, a 46GB log file.... | |
| [04:51] <tertu> this machine is really buggy | |
| [04:51] <tertu> jockey throws python exceptions when i try to do anything with it | |
| [04:51] <tertu> muon package search doesn't work, nor does synaptic quick search | |
| [04:52] <tertu> the Canonical APT repos were disabled by default | |
| [04:52] <tertu> muon update manager doesn't really seem to work | |
| [04:53] <tertu> and i think apport may have locked up, depends on how long i have to wait for it to show anything | |
| [04:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> wow | |
| [04:54] <tertu> ALSO if i put it to sleep the display doesn't turn back on when i wake it up | |
| [04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> maybe you should consider testing the ram and hdd | |
| [04:54] <tertu> both are good | |
| [04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> did you install from a dvd? | |
| [04:54] <tertu> well, i'm unsure about the ram | |
| [04:54] <Poisoned_Dragon> check the ram | |
| [04:54] <tertu> i did install from a dvd, it could very well have been damaged | |
| [04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> actually, it can be as simple as a bad burn, to complicated like a bad dvd drive. | |
| [04:55] <valorie> did you verify the ISO? | |
| [04:55] <tertu> you'd think these sorts of problems would have fixed themselves via updates | |
| [04:55] <tertu> nope. | |
| [04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> the easiest test would be running memtest and putting the iso on a usb stick | |
| [04:55] <valorie> depends on where the corruption was | |
| [04:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> true. | |
| [04:56] <valorie> that's what the checksum is there for | |
| [04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> could have even been a bad download, if you didn't verify the iso. | |
| [04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> Although, I find that iso's downloaded via torrent have a low likelihood of failure. | |
| [04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> So, I generally don't bother verifying with that. | |
| [04:57] <tertu> bittorrent has its own verification system | |
| [04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> yup | |
| [04:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> better than getting it from the site. | |
| [04:57] <valorie> yes, every few weeks I ask ktorrent to check all the ISOs I seed | |
| [04:58] <tertu> i just feel like more would be broken if the ISO was actually corrupt, like a package would be damaged internally or something | |
| [04:58] <tertu> i'm pretty sure the sleep bug is something with my particular laptop's video hardware | |
| [04:59] <valorie> it's worthwhile to file a bug | |
| [04:59] <valorie> then file another bug | |
| [04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> could be... but one demon at a time. | |
| [04:59] <valorie> and figure out each problem in turn | |
| [04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> ^ | |
| [04:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> start with the big mess, like the ram and installing with a usb stick, after verifying the iso | |
| [05:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> Then dwindle it down. | |
| [05:00] <tertu> i mean i'm not sure if this would be a good indication but under Windows 7 i don't really have anywhere near this amount of problems | |
| [05:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, that can be hit or miss. | |
| [05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Though it would say that the hardware is working fine, it would also say that it should, since it's designed to run in windows. | |
| [05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Not the ultimate diagnostic tool. | |
| [05:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just part of the diagnostic tool kit | |
| [05:03] <tertu> that would make sense for sleep (which does work) but something like ram? that doesn't make as much sense | |
| [05:03] <tertu> and besides i have successfully run kubuntu before with fewer problems | |
| [05:04] <tertu> well ram ages over time so that doesn't quite make sense. | |
| [05:04] <valorie> also worth checking that the ram is tightly seated | |
| [05:05] <valorie> it can become loose sometimes | |
| [05:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Was all this a problem in the live session? | |
| [05:06] <tertu> nope. | |
| [05:06] <tertu> i didn't try sleeping in the live session but that all went fine | |
| [05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well the live session runs all in ram. If there was going to be ram problems, it would have popped up then. | |
| [05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can test for sleep in the live session. | |
| [05:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> At this point, it's really starting to sound like the hdd. | |
| [05:13] <Poisoned_Dragon> By now, I would have downloaded a diagnostic iso from the manufacturer. | |
| [05:15] <tertu> grabbing it right now, | |
| [05:55] <mydevilroot> Hi All | |
| [06:19] <mattcen> Hi all. I'm looking for the SVG of the default Kubuntu 13.04 wallpaper. Anybody know where it is? | |
| [06:21] <valorie> hmmm, seems like it would be in your sources | |
| [06:21] <valorie> I mean, we use the KDE default wallpaper, as far as i know | |
| [06:27] <mattcen> That's a nice theory, but I've not found it yet. | |
| [06:31] <valorie> mattcen: I'm googling, and I haven't found it either | |
| [06:32] <shadeslayer> valorie: mattcen I don't think it was released | |
| [06:33] <valorie> shadeslayer: so we just derived our image from the unreleased SVG? | |
| [06:33] <shadeslayer> valorie: I /think/ pino just released a png | |
| [06:33] * shadeslayer is confirming | |
| [06:33] <valorie> k | |
| [06:34] <shadeslayer> yeah http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kde-wallpapers/Elarun/contents/images/ | |
| [06:34] <valorie> thanks, shadeslayer | |
| [06:34] <shadeslayer> okay wait, even that's not correct ... | |
| [06:34] <shadeslayer> hmm | |
| [06:34] <shadeslayer> because Autumn doesn't have a svg there too | |
| [06:36] <shadeslayer> mattcen: please ask in #oxygen | |
| [06:37] <mattcen> Hooray for open source being open! Unbelieveable. | |
| [06:38] <valorie> it's open | |
| [06:38] <valorie> just not necessarily easy to find | |
| [06:39] <valorie> if an artist doesn't want to release the SVG, why is that a problem? | |
| [06:39] <mattcen> shadeslayer: Thanks for your help. I'll ask there | |
| [06:40] <shadeslayer> valorie: mattcen I've /heard/ this before that the svg for Elarun was never released | |
| [06:41] <mattcen> Right. Well that's disappointing. Thanks again. | |
| [06:42] <mattcen> I wanted to use the image, but didn't want to commit a 1.4MB PNG to our git repo; was hoping for the SVG which I'd expect to be ~100kb | |
| [06:44] <valorie> mattcen: if you ask the artist, he might give it to ya | |
| [06:44] <valorie> you never know | |
| [06:44] <shadeslayer> ^^ | |
| [06:44] <valorie> it might have been oversight that it wasn't released | |
| [06:45] <shadeslayer> also, s/Pino/Nuno/ earlier | |
| [06:45] <valorie> ha | |
| [06:45] <valorie> nuno is awesome | |
| [07:04] <mattcen> I apologize if I came off as snarky before; I just wasted 2 hours of a (very hot and unpleasant) afternoon looking for that wallpaper. | |
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| [07:55] <student_> hi | |
| [08:00] <valorie> how can we help you, student_? | |
| [08:03] <lordievader> Good morning. | |
| [12:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all | |
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| [15:19] <deafgeek> .msg NickServ verify deafgeek uolgssduuudv | |
| [15:19] <deafgeek> whoops | |
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| [18:41] <DonBastel> Hi folks, little question is there an official kubuntu pxe package or an official iso->pxe documentation? | |
| [18:46] <greeny> hi there, when gets KDE 4.12 released in kubuntu 13.10? | |
| [18:53] <soee_> first it has to be ready for trusty :) | |
| [18:55] <greeny> true. first of all i appreciate some new kate features^^ | |
| [18:56] <greeny> i hate switching between splitted window without any shortcut | |
| [18:57] <gacyne> if i install wine will that enable windows malware on my computer? | |
| [18:57] <soee_> :) | |
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| [18:59] <greeny> gacyne: it will only enable the backdoors of windows software I suggest | |
| [19:00] <gacyne> howdo i "sandbox" wine | |
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| [19:06] <gacyne> ok i get it no security related question | |
| [19:10] <greeny> perhaps you should ask in a wine channel | |
| [19:10] <greeny> or google | |
| [19:10] <greeny> :) | |
| [20:12] <soee_> is it possible to configure 2 screens to show only different activities ? | |
| [20:52] <gino_> celentano | |
| [20:57] <kuba> hi | |
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| [20:57] <Guest16560> can anybode help me to resize partition? | |
| [21:00] <greeny> guess gparted and knoppix can do that for you | |
| [21:03] <gino_> !lista | |
| [21:03] <ubottu> gino_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». | |
| [21:04] <gino_> "!lista" | |
| [21:05] <gino_> !lista | |
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| [22:19] <djaz> hello | |
| [23:15] <F41L> Hey, I just installed firefox and firefox-kde-support, when opening firefox from launcher, has KDE integration no problem. But if I open a web URL shortcut, it opens the ugly GTK firefox. Any ideas? | |
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| [23:34] <valorie> F41L: maybe look at your systemsettings | |
| [23:34] <valorie> possibly the link for 'open URLs in' or similar needs to be changed | |
| [23:35] <valorie> default applications > web browser | |
| [23:36] <valorie> mine is set to "in the following browser" | |
| [23:36] <valorie> which I have as chromium browser | |
| [23:36] <valorie> the other setting is 'in an application based on the contents of the URL' | |
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| [23:48] <keithzg> Hmm, lightdm isn't starting automatically (have to launch the service manually) and desktop effects don't work. I have a feeling these two things are related... | |
| [23:57] <keithzg> And oddly, Muon doesn't show virtualbox-4.3, even though it's currently installed through the Oracle-provided repo. Curiouser and curiouser. | |
| [23:58] <keithzg> On the plus side, I have lightdm running by default now, but still no desktop effects. | |