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| [01:18] <bryce> slangasek, .11 up. | |
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| [06:08] <voldyman> guys i am trying to write an application that manages and draws wallpaper on the desktop. is there any documented way to doing this? | |
| [06:14] <RAOF> voldyman: Depends ? | |
| [06:14] <voldyman> RAOF, ?? | |
| [06:15] <voldyman> RAOF, it will be written in vala. i tried gnome-settings-daemon but i couldn't find most of the functions in vapi for x11 | |
| [06:20] <RAOF> voldyman: You could just frob the relevant gsettings keys and get whatever's drawing the desktop to do the drawing for you; I don't know what those keys are, though. | |
| [06:21] <voldyman> RAOF, isn't there a way to draw the surface ourself. i have been looking for sometime and it isn't documented | |
| [06:23] <RAOF> voldyman: You can always draw on the root window :) | |
| [06:25] <voldyman> RAOF, how ? | |
| [06:25] <voldyman> i have been trying to do just that | |
| [06:35] <voldyman_> RAOF, can you point me from where i can learn to draw on the root window | |
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| [07:17] <RAOF> voldyman: Sorry for the delay - in C it's pretty easy, you just grab DefaultRootWindow(dpy) and then pass that through to gtk. Vala might not have the requisite stuff hooked up, though. | |
| [07:17] <RAOF> voldyman: Oh, now that I think of it, unity-greeter is written in Vala, and it does some draw-to-the-root-window malarkey. Take a look at that. | |
| [07:18] <voldyman> RAOF, thanks i'll take a look at unity-greeter. would you happen to have an example in C ? | |
| [07:18] <RAOF> voldyman: Not off the top of my head, sorry, no. | |
| [07:19] <voldyman> np. thanks a lot | |
| [07:19] <RAOF> But as I say, it's as simple as dpy = XOpenDisplay(); Window = DefaultRootWindow(dpy); create_a_gtk_drawable(Window); | |
| [07:20] <voldyman> RAOF, i was reading the libgnome-desktop3 they've used a very complicated method for setting the wallpaper | |
| [07:21] <RAOF> They need to do funky things because they're trying to handoff from the greeter (to do a transition greeter?session) | |
| [07:22] <voldyman> nope nothing like that | |
| [07:22] <voldyman> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c | |
| [07:26] <RAOF> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c#L1193 | |
| [07:27] <RAOF> They're doing funky things because they're trying to handoff from the greeter (to do a transition greeter?session) :) | |
| [07:28] <RAOF> particularly - they're setting things up so that it'll persist after the client quits | |
| [07:31] <voldyman> client as in gsd? | |
| [07:32] <voldyman> so when it itself quits the background should persist | |
| [07:32] <RAOF> Client as in whatever; IIRC gdm uses it, too. | |
| [07:32] <RAOF> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/gnome-desktop3/precise/view/head:/libgnome-desktop/gnome-bg.c#L1560 is basically the operative bit. | |
| [07:33] <gotwig> Hey, may you help to fix me bug #1032534 ? It refers to a fault of ubuntu, to include the string unity into the translateable descriptions. I don't find the translations for the po files when I do apt-get source from jockey-gtk . | |
| [07:33] <ubottu> bug 1032534 in elementary OS "Jockey refers to Unity" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032534 | |
| [07:33] <RAOF> voldyman: The rest is ensuring that the Pixmap they generate doesn't die when the client dies, setting a property on the root window that they can read later, reading from that property? | |
| [07:33] <gotwig> but I find the relevant strings when I search here: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/jockey/+pots/jockey/de/+translate?batch=10&show=all&search=unity | |
| [07:34] <voldyman> RAOF, so they dont need to maintain a buffer with the wallpaper image, just get it from X | |
| [08:03] <dholbach> good morning | |
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| [09:12] <darkxst> Sarvatt, did you ever get a chance to look at my other two ppa-purge merge requests? | |
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| [14:54] <hyperair> what's "ay" in gsettings? | |
| [14:54] <hyperair> i recall "a" being array | |
| [14:55] <hyperair> but what's "y"? | |
| [14:57] <hyperair> ah, okay, y is byte | |
| [14:57] <hyperair> array of bytes. | |
| [14:57] <hyperair> hmmmm | |
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| [18:38] <hallyn> infinity: SpamapS: around by chance? | |
| [18:38] <infinity> hallyn: I might be. | |
| [18:38] <infinity> hallyn: ¿Que pasa? | |
| [18:38] <hallyn> infinity: qemu-kvm SRU... | |
| [18:38] <hallyn> gah, i didn't push the quantal one yet anyway... | |
| [18:39] <infinity> hallyn: The one with 4 unverified bugs? | |
| [18:39] <hallyn> but i'm pushed a new precise-proposed to surpass the one there now | |
| [18:39] <hallyn> yeah. | |
| [18:39] <hallyn> i'm verifying them today, butone is actually still bad. I just pushed a new pkg with a better fix | |
| [18:40] <hallyn> oh. interesting. | |
| [18:40] <hallyn> in quantal we're doing || true after modprobes. | |
| [18:43] <hallyn> i'd prefer to drop those actually... but that's not for this upload | |
| [18:47] <hallyn> infinity: new versions uploaded for precise-proposed and quantal-proposed. if possible to accept them that'd be great, i'll verify them today. | |
| [18:50] <hallyn> (I'm pretty sure the quantal woudl verify without the new change, but i uploaded it anyway to keep behavior 100% consistent between prcise and quantal. not sur eif that's a priority or not) | |
| [18:50] <infinity> hallyn: I'll look at them sometime today when I'm bored with being on holiday. ;) | |
| [18:51] <hallyn> infinity: thanks - and enjoy :) | |
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| [19:24] <hallyn> infinity: well, OTOH, in quantal the version already accepted checks out fine. so I could go either way, - accepting or rejecting the one i just pushed | |
| [19:37] <hallyn> slangasek: on precise, udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=misc --action=change | |
| [19:38] <hallyn> slangasek: does the righ tthing and fixes acls for the group. but on quantal it doesn't seem to | |
| [19:40] * hallyn lunches | |
| [20:01] <slangasek> hallyn: hrmmmm, really? | |
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| [20:13] <hallyn> slangasek: yeah (unless I'm doin gsomething wrong - always a possibility) trying to verify bug 1057024; works fine in precise, not q. weird | |
| [20:13] <ubottu> bug 1057024 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "kvm kernel module always loaded, without setting /dev/kvm permissions" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1057024 | |
| [20:16] <gotwig> where has /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/distro/Ubuntu.py moved?? | |
| [20:16] <gotwig> its no more out there | |
| [20:31] <infinity> gotwig: It just got lowercased. | |
| [20:31] <infinity> gotwig: /usr/share/software-center/softwarecenter/distro/ubuntu.py | |
| [20:32] <gotwig> infinity, it seems my distro just removed it... | |
| [20:32] <gotwig> I use elementary Luna | |
| [20:32] <gotwig> well, its based on Ubuntu | |
| [20:33] <gotwig> but I can't buy paid apps. I want to fix that | |
| [20:33] <gotwig> How different is Ubuntu here? | |
| [20:33] <gotwig> Does it not allow, that other distros use paid apps? | |
| [20:34] <infinity> I imagine you'd do better by asking the person who modified the package for Elementary. | |
| [20:35] <gotwig> infinity, I don't see here elementary as the thing that caused that | |
| [20:35] <gotwig> or the person | |
| [20:35] <gotwig> but the software center dudes | |
| [20:35] <infinity> Eh? You said that the file didn't exist on Elementary. | |
| [20:35] <gotwig> I already read stuff on the net, where people said that they cant install paid apps | |
| [20:35] <infinity> Ubuntu developers didn't log on to your system and remove the file. | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> infinity, of course it has its own file. Without that file it wouldnt even run | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> you should know that | |
| [20:36] <infinity> 13:32 < gotwig> infinity, it seems my distro just removed it... | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> infinity, if its elementary, it uses its own file. | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> every distro got its own file | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> but I also read on the net, that linux mint users were not able to install paid apps as well | |
| [20:36] <gotwig> so I think its a bigger problem | |
| [20:36] <infinity> Sure, no one's dictating what elementary's should do. | |
| [20:36] <infinity> (Nor Mint) | |
| [20:37] <gotwig> infinity, they downloaded it for their self | |
| [20:37] <gotwig> and did steps that I can reproduce | |
| [20:37] <gotwig> however the result not | |
| [20:37] <gotwig> they just copied the ubuntu.py file over, renamed all important stuff, so it could even run | |
| [20:37] <gotwig> without, it wouldnt | |
| [20:38] <gotwig> infinity, are you interested in a diff? | |
| [20:39] <gotwig> I know, that this is not "upstream" | |
| [20:39] <infinity> Not particularly, no. | |
| [20:39] <hallyn> slangasek: before installing the qemu udev rules, getfacl shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453236, after it shows http://paste.ubuntu.com/1453238 | |
| [20:39] <infinity> After spending 10 minutes trying to find the source on the elementary website, I've lost whatever curiosity I had. | |
| [20:39] <gotwig> infinity, which source | |
| [20:39] <gotwig> infinity, you can find everything on launchpad | |
| [20:40] <gotwig> just like at ubuntu | |
| [20:40] <infinity> gotwig: "Find it on launchpad" is meaningless. Where? | |
| [20:40] <gotwig> infinity, the elementary package for software center? | |
| [20:40] <infinity> gotwig: I'd interpret what you're saying as "https://launchpad.net/elementary/+source/software-center", which is clearly not true. | |
| [20:41] <infinity> gotwig: So, again, where? | |
| [20:41] <slangasek> hallyn: so it looks like the rulse have been /partially/ applied - group is fixed, mode is wrong? | |
| [20:41] <hallyn> slangasek: right | |
| [20:41] <slangasek> hallyn: is it possible you have some other rule in your quantal env that's overriding the mode? | |
| [20:41] <hallyn> grep kvm /lib/udev/rules.d/* didn't show any | |
| [20:42] <hallyn> unless udev now merges 40-* with 70-* rules? | |
| [20:42] <hallyn> lemme remove the 70-* rules jsut to make sure | |
| [20:43] <hallyn> nope, still ignored | |
| [20:43] <slangasek> hallyn: well, it might be a broader rule of some kind that's setting modes it shouldn't | |
| [20:44] <gotwig> infinity, https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/os-patches | |
| [20:44] <hallyn> slangasek: is there a way to tell udev what rules it's considering? | |
| [20:44] <slangasek> hallyn: not AFAIK | |
| [20:45] <hallyn> slangasek: and it should only use the first rule it finds right? | |
| [20:45] <slangasek> not at all | |
| [20:45] <slangasek> it processes all rules in order | |
| [20:46] <slangasek> hallyn: if you *reboot* the quantal test, do you get the right acl? | |
| [20:46] <slangasek> if not, that's fairly definitive that the problem isn't with the SRU :) | |
| [20:47] <hallyn> slangasek: yup | |
| [20:47] <slangasek> hmm, darn | |
| [20:47] <hallyn> get the right acls that way | |
| [20:47] <slangasek> so that sounds like a udev bug of some kind | |
| [20:47] <slangasek> grr | |
| [20:47] <hallyn> wonder if it's present in raring | |
| [20:48] <hallyn> wonder if i have enough disk space to test that here | |
| [20:48] <hallyn> 7G. that'll do | |
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| [20:59] <gotwig> infinity, what are you up to | |
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| [23:11] <quantalrabbit> i'm trying to build debuild php5-5.3.10 precise and it is failing with some errors such as "dpkg-source: error: cannot represent change to php5-5.3.10/mysql_base/bin/my_print_defaults: binary file contents changed". Haven't changed any of the source files yet. I'm a bit new to ubuntu-devel, any help greatly appreciated | |
| [23:37] <RAOF> quantalrabbit: It sounds like maybe your clean target hasn't cleaned the build tree properly? | |
| [23:38] <quantalrabbit> RAOF: thanks, you are correct. | |
| [23:38] <quantalrabbit> RAOF: i removed files it was complaining about and it now is rebuilding. | |
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