| [00:08] <Tassadar> okay, my cmdline was missing these 3 parameters: "access=m2 quiet splash" | |
| [00:08] <Tassadar> I added them, and onboard works like a charm | |
| [00:08] <Tassadar> that is...unexpected Oo | |
| [00:10] <Tassadar> something still crashes when I hide onboard and show it again, window's decorations disappear and input from onboard no longer gets into textfields | |
| [01:51] <Jef91> sfeole you still around? | |
| [01:59] <vanhoof> Jef91: the rootfs.img is derived from live build | |
| [01:59] <vanhoof> tar/plain format | |
| [01:59] <vanhoof> you can download it, mount it loopback and take a look | |
| [01:59] <Jef91> vanhoof do you know what edits are made to the file system to allow it to be setup properly from the rootfs.tar.gz on the nexus 7? | |
| [02:00] <vanhoof> http://www.mattfischer.com/blog/?p=285 | |
| [02:00] <vanhoof> its just a quantal or raring build w/ a seed trimming out the fat, nothing fancy | |
| [02:01] <Jef91> So there is nothing extra added to the file system to allow it to boot on the nexus 7? | |
| [02:02] <vanhoof> Jef91: checkout ubuntu-defaults-nexus7 package in the ppa | |
| [02:02] <vanhoof> anything magic is handled there | |
| [02:02] <vanhoof> but those are largely quantal specific, where the image was released at UDS | |
| [02:02] <vanhoof> not for daily raring builds | |
| [02:04] <vanhoof> Jef91: you've seen the build.sh script, yeah? | |
| [02:04] <Jef91> yea looking at it now | |
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| [02:11] <Jef91> where the is ppa for that pacakge again vanhoof? | |
| [02:12] <Jef91> nvm found it | |
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| [03:32] <Jef91> hrm my custom nexus rootfs is giving me: | |
| [03:32] <Jef91> "mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory" and "target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init" and then it dumps me to a busy box. Any suggestions as to what I might be missing? | |
| [03:34] <mjrosenb> Jef91: you should not be mounting /dev anywhere | |
| [03:35] <mjrosenb> /dev/sdfoo or /dev/mmcblkbar sure | |
| [03:35] <Jef91> hrm | |
| [03:37] <Jef91> if I try to install the 8gb image on a 16gb nexus 7 will it have issues? | |
| [03:38] <infinity> mjrosenb: I assume that's an initrd moving the mount from /dev in the initrd to /root/dev before pivoting root. | |
| [03:38] <infinity> Jef91: ^ | |
| [03:39] <infinity> Jef91: And the last message is also from an initrd telling you it can't find /sbin/init on /root | |
| [03:39] <Jef91> my filesystem has a /sbin/init file | |
| [03:39] <infinity> Jef91: So, your rootfs isn't being mounted, or it's being mounted but is empty and/or corrupt. | |
| [03:39] <Jef91> or is it referencing something else? | |
| [03:39] <infinity> From the POV of the initrd, your filesystem really doesn't have init. | |
| [03:39] <infinity> Why that is, I can't say. | |
| [03:39] <Jef91> Alrighty. | |
| [03:40] <infinity> (It also doesn't have /dev) | |
| [03:40] <infinity> In other words, it's probably just not seeing it right. | |
| [03:40] <Jef91> My file system is Debian Wheezy ARMHF | |
| [03:40] <Jef91> But I've recompiled the Ubuntu nexus 7 packages, thinking they would work with it | |
| [03:40] <Jef91> but that might not be enough | |
| [03:41] <Jef91> namely I've installed the "tarball-installer" package along with "ubuntu-defaults-nexus7" any idea if I need something more than those two to make the rootfs install via fastboot? | |
| [03:42] <infinity> Oh. | |
| [03:42] <infinity> Did you also generate an initrd after installing tarball-installer? | |
| [03:43] <infinity> That initrd is the one you should be booting with. | |
| [03:44] <Jef91> ha whoops | |
| [03:44] <Jef91> I did not | |
| [03:44] <Jef91> How abouts would I go about doing that infinity? | |
| [03:44] <Jef91> I just copied over the /boot from the Ubuntu FS | |
| [03:45] <Jef91> I moved over /boot, /lib/firmware and /lib/modules | |
| [03:45] <infinity> update-initramfs -u in your new rootfs. | |
| [03:45] <Jef91> (that is what I have done for a number of other ARM devices, wasn't sure if this was different) | |
| [03:45] <Jef91> Will there be any conflicts if I had copied over those directories from Ubuntu? | |
| [03:46] <infinity> Erm. This is a bit more involved than just copying files around, if you're wanting it to *install* the same way our images do. | |
| [03:46] <infinity> See live-build/auto/build from the livecd-rootfs source. | |
| [03:46] <infinity> Search for nexus7 | |
| [03:47] <infinity> We create the boot.img with abootimg, and then create the rootfs, which is an ext4 sparse filesystem with a tarball inside it. | |
| [03:47] <infinity> Then you flash both those bits, and the boot.img runs the tarball installer. | |
| [03:47] <Jef91> Ahh I didn't create my own boot.img | |
| [03:47] <infinity> If that's not what you actually wanted, then you didn't want tarball-installer. | |
| [03:47] <Jef91> I'd just been using one of the ones from Ubuntu | |
| [03:48] <Jef91> I'll generate my own | |
| [03:48] * Jef91 will stop trying to shortcut | |
| [03:51] <vanhoof> Jef91: what variant (8, 16, 32, 32+3g)? | |
| [03:52] <Jef91> 16 vanhoof | |
| [03:52] <Jef91> So I need to generate a fresh boot.img even with the same kernel Ubuntu uses? | |
| [03:52] <vanhoof> ah ok, you should be good w/ p9 then for rootfs | |
| [03:52] <vanhoof> 3g is p10 | |
| [03:52] <vanhoof> (partition wise) | |
| [03:53] <vanhoof> well it needs to be flashed to the boot partition | |
| [03:54] <vanhoof> since tarball-installer does its magic on first boot then vanishes | |
| [03:54] <vanhoof> after that flash-kernel works as usual | |
| [03:54] <SailorMoon> So whats the deal with Ubuntu for Nexus 7? | |
| [03:55] <SailorMoon> Is it being developed for fun or should we expect something serious of it? | |
| [03:55] <vanhoof> its quite active | |
| [03:55] <vanhoof> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-desktop-targets-for-embedded.html | |
| [03:55] <SailorMoon> from what ive seen, in its current state, its a bit unusable | |
| [03:56] <vanhoof> SailorMoon: bits are still being migrated from the quantal -> raring daily | |
| [03:56] <Jef91> aside from the fact that Unity is a memory hog it works pretty well SailorMoon | |
| [03:56] <SailorMoon> i do hope it becomes usable someday, I have an OTG cable and a USB hub i use on my N7 for a mouse and keyboard, using that on Ubuntu would be Epic. | |
| [03:57] <SailorMoon> I did see there were nightlies, and downloaded one, but i couldnt manage to figure out how to install it | |
| [03:57] <vanhoof> SailorMoon: thats how I do most of my work (OTG) | |
| [03:57] <SailorMoon> Was like a .gz with a .raw inside it | |
| [03:57] <vanhoof> usb serial is new (and nice too) | |
| [03:57] <vanhoof> connect and `screen /dev/ttyACM0 115200` | |
| [03:57] <infinity> SailorMoon: The wiki has pretty clear instructions on what to do with the two downloaded files. | |
| [03:58] <SailorMoon> The wiki doesnt say anything about the Nightlies | |
| [03:58] <SailorMoon> It says how to install the .img files, wich i already knew. | |
| [03:58] <infinity> Which nightlies are you refering to? | |
| [03:58] <vanhoof> install https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-nexus7/+archive/ubuntu-nexus7-installer | |
| [03:58] <vanhoof> and if you choose to re-download, it'll pull the new daily | |
| [03:59] <infinity> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Manually_Installing_Ubuntu_13.04_on_Nexus_7 <-- How to install dailies. | |
| [03:59] <SailorMoon> infinity: this one http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-preinstalled/current/ | |
| [03:59] <infinity> SailorMoon: Yeah, the above tells you exactly what to do with those two files. | |
| [03:59] <SailorMoon> yeah step 2 says "gunzip", wtf is a gunzip | |
| [03:59] <infinity> SailorMoon: "gunzip foo.img.gz" | |
| [03:59] <vanhoof> SailorMoon: install the package from the ppa | |
| [03:59] <vanhoof> it does it for you | |
| [03:59] <SailorMoon> I'm running Windows on my Desktop lol | |
| [03:59] <vanhoof> oh | |
| [04:00] <infinity> Do you have a fastboot binary for Windows? | |
| [04:00] <SailorMoon> Tried using 7z but it just showd a .raw inside | |
| [04:00] <SailorMoon> Yep | |
| [04:00] <infinity> If so, these instructions will work just fine, but yes, you'll need something to unzip. | |
| [04:00] <infinity> Like good ol' winzip. | |
| [04:00] <SailorMoon> i used 7zip but again, file.raw inside | |
| [04:00] <SailorMoon> Also tried Winrar | |
| [04:01] <infinity> Oh, if they're renaming it to file.raw instead of file.img, that doesn't really matter. | |
| [04:01] <Jef91> SailorMoon: the install instructions are pretty clear you need Ubuntu on your desktop in it's current state :P | |
| [04:01] <infinity> Jef91: Not really true. With a sane fastboot, it should work from Win32 too. | |
| [04:01] <SailorMoon> so i should just assume .raw is the name of the image? | |
| [04:02] <SailorMoon> Jef91: ive said like 10 times, i've installed the normal .img files fine | |
| [04:02] <SailorMoon> these compressed files dont contain .img files | |
| [04:02] <SailorMoon> and confused me | |
| [04:02] <infinity> SailorMoon: Well, it is, in fact, image.raw at one point in the build process. We likely rename it. | |
| [04:02] <SailorMoon> Good to know | |
| [04:02] <SailorMoon> i didnt know that before, confused me TT lol | |
| [04:02] <infinity> So, your unzippy thing is just being a bit too smart, I suspect. | |
| [04:03] <vanhoof> infinity: rename to .img? | |
| [04:03] * vanhoof has no clue on win | |
| [04:03] <infinity> That said, you could get gzip/gunzip for Win32 from here: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/gzip.htm | |
| [04:04] <infinity> vanhoof: The name of the image is completely meaningless, it's just a raw blob of blobbiness anyway, fastboot doesn't care. | |
| [04:04] <infinity> That said, gunzip will definitely give you The Right Thing, I have no idea what WinRAR for 7zip will do (though, they should be doing similarly Right Things) | |
| [04:04] <infinity> s/for/or/ | |
| [04:04] <vanhoof> cygwin? :) | |
| [04:05] <infinity> This gzip is native, no need for cyg. | |
| [04:05] <vanhoof> infinity: right, just never used fastboot on win myself | |
| [04:05] <infinity> vanhoof: Fastboot on Win32 is far better tested than on Linux, so it better work. :P | |
| [04:05] <vanhoof> infinity: heh | |
| [04:05] <infinity> (Sadly, we're not actually the dominant OS in the world... Crazy talk, I know) | |
| [04:05] <vanhoof> infinity: say it aint so! | |
| [04:06] <infinity> It saddens me too. | |
| [04:06] <SailorMoon> what is dup? | |
| [04:06] <SailorMoon> Its completely unrelated but you guys r smart n stuff | |
| [04:06] <infinity> vanhoof: Anyhow, we could totally whip up a quick-n-dirty installer (probably not a GUI, unless you want to do actual work, but we could script something and bundle it with gzip, etc) for Win32.. | |
| [04:07] <vanhoof> infinity: totally out of my element there, perhaps a holiday venture, if i use windows, cygwin is the first thing installed ;) | |
| [04:07] <infinity> vanhoof: Yeah, native is much saner in this case. Though, I tend to agree, Windows without a sane POSIX environment drives me batty. | |
| [04:08] <vanhoof> infinity: s!!! ;) | |
| [04:08] <infinity> Heck, it's the only thing that makes MacOS usable. I spent about 10 minutes trying to "intuitively" deduce how to help a friend with an OSX problem the other day before I just broke down, hit a terminal, and beat it with a hammer from the back end. | |
| [04:08] <infinity> Intuitive GUI, my ass. | |
| [04:09] <vanhoof> same w/ OSX, fink! | |
| [04:09] <vanhoof> lol | |
| [04:09] * vanhoof envisions being punched by infinity at some point | |
| [04:10] <infinity> If I used OSX at all, I'd likely use fink. But, why would I use OSX? | |
| [04:10] <infinity> That sort of implies wanting the GUI which, as stated above, is completely unusable to me. | |
| [04:10] <vanhoof> heh | |
| [04:10] <infinity> It also implies wanting the hardware, and I'm allergic to mice with fewer than three buttons. | |
| [04:11] <infinity> If Lenovo ever drops the middle button, I might just find a new career, computers will be dead to me. | |
| [04:11] <vanhoof> infinity: im dreading moving away from my x220 | |
| [04:12] * vanhoof is not a fan of the new keyboards | |
| [04:12] <infinity> Oh, really? I think they've actually done a stellar job on their chicklet keboards. | |
| [04:12] <vanhoof> you like em? | |
| [04:12] <infinity> They're about 20x more usable than the Apple/Samsung keyboards. | |
| [04:12] <infinity> I actually really like the feel. | |
| [04:12] <infinity> And they certainly gunk up a lot less than the old skool Thinkpad keyboards. | |
| [04:12] <vanhoof> i just love my old reliable lenovo keyboard | |
| [04:12] <infinity> I used to have to replace mine every year or so. | |
| [04:13] <vanhoof> thought I am not a user of the lenovo nipple :) | |
| [04:13] <vanhoof> people think im crazy | |
| [04:13] <infinity> I dunno. It's not AS NICE a touch as the classic ThinkPad keyboards, I won't pretend it is, but they've done a really good job. | |
| [04:13] <infinity> They're still very IBM/Lenovo ThinkPadish. | |
| [04:13] <infinity> Only took me a week or so to get my typing speed back into the 120+ WPM range after switching from old to new ThinkPads. | |
| [04:14] <infinity> Now I bounce between the two, and they both work well. | |
| [04:14] <vanhoof> infinity: I think i'll skip the x230 | |
| [04:14] <vanhoof> see what haswell and lenovo have in next year | |
| [04:14] <infinity> Well, I doubt they'll bring back the old keyboards. | |
| [04:14] <vanhoof> yeah | |
| [04:14] <infinity> Does Toshiba still ship them? | |
| [04:15] <infinity> They were the only other vendor with this style of keyboard in recent years. | |
| [04:15] <vanhoof> not sure, havent spent much time w/ toshiba | |
| [04:15] <infinity> (Shame their laptops were otherwise hideous) | |
| [04:16] <vanhoof> i dunno, big thing with me and thinkpads is accessability | |
| [04:16] <infinity> So, do you know any fans of the old skool keyboards who'd want to buy a near-mint T420s? :P | |
| [04:16] <vanhoof> yeah i want a new hdd, easy ... pop in mstata in pcie, easy | |
| [04:16] <infinity> Toshiba was modular long before IBM was. | |
| [04:16] <vanhoof> i hate having to rip apart a laptop to add in new parts | |
| [04:17] <infinity> Though, it was more than 15y ago that I was doing laptop service. | |
| [04:17] <infinity> I'm sure things changed. | |
| [04:17] <infinity> A bit. | |
| [04:17] <infinity> Either way, a quick poke at their website shows they've also gone chicklet. | |
| [04:18] <vanhoof> now i just need to sweet talk ogra_ into sending me a new panel for my ac100 :) | |
| [04:18] <infinity> Oh, now that's a keyboard I find unusable. | |
| [04:18] <infinity> The only one worse than the ac100 was the tf101. | |
| [04:18] * vanhoof misses his, shame the panel decided to die | |
| [04:19] <vanhoof> yeah but for grab and go, its an awesome machine | |
| [04:19] <infinity> The weight was hard to beat. | |
| [04:19] <infinity> I eventually stopped using mine, though. | |
| [04:19] <vanhoof> this x220 w/ a 9 cell battery is small but heavy :) | |
| [04:19] <infinity> I keep tossing around the idea of replacing it with a Chromebook. | |
| [04:19] <vanhoof> same here | |
| [04:20] <infinity> Honestly, though, the 420s is actually stupid light and thin, for all the beef inside. | |
| [04:20] <vanhoof> was looking at the install for it and it looks a mess | |
| [04:20] <infinity> So I'm not sure I need more laptops. | |
| [04:20] <infinity> Streamlining the Chromebook install and producing images for it was about the only argument I had for buying one. | |
| [04:21] <infinity> Cause I think it would be a lovely all-in-one dev kit to recommend to people. | |
| [04:21] <infinity> Sure beats saying "okay, go buy a Panda... And now buy a hard drive... And a monitor... And..." | |
| [04:21] <vanhoof> heh | |
| [04:22] <vanhoof> i think the install could be greatly condenced, everything i've found it way to manual | |
| [04:22] <infinity> Oh, we could make it reasonably slick. | |
| [04:22] <infinity> Except for the initial faff to get it into dev mode. | |
| [04:23] <vanhoof> well same w/ n7 | |
| [04:23] * infinity nods. | |
| [04:24] <infinity> Meh. Would have made a good holiday project, but there's no way I can get an American to ship me one before January now. | |
| [04:24] <vanhoof> infinity: i work for beer | |
| [04:25] <vanhoof> ;) | |
| [04:25] <infinity> vanhoof: I meant there's just no way (short of FedEx overnight, twice) that it would get here in time for me to do anything with it over the holidays. | |
| [04:25] <infinity> vanhoof: And overnighting it from a retailer to you, and then from you to me, would make it a fair chunk more expensive than the sticker price. :P | |
| [04:26] <infinity> Sort of defeats the purpose of buying cheap hardware. | |
| [04:26] <vanhoof> infinity: yeah but then you owe me archive work ;) | |
| [04:26] <vanhoof> win/win | |
| [04:26] <vanhoof> lulz | |
| [04:26] <infinity> Oh, if you want to send me one for free, I'm okay with owing people favours... | |
| [04:26] <vanhoof> looool | |
| [04:27] <infinity> It's not like I haven't been working the last 5 days, despite being on "holidays". | |
| [04:27] <infinity> Grr. | |
| [04:27] <vanhoof> yeah seriously | |
| [04:27] <infinity> May as well work on something I enjoy, instead of emergency SRUs for insane insanity. | |
| [04:37] <SailorMoon> Installing COM24 ? | |
| [04:37] <SailorMoon> COM26? | |
| [04:38] <SailorMoon> COM32? D: | |
| [04:38] * SailorMoon panics | |
| [04:39] <infinity> USB serial on Windows gets curious numbering. | |
| [04:40] <infinity> FSVO "curious" that amounts to "completely nonsensical". | |
| [04:40] <SailorMoon> lol | |
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| [04:41] <SailorMoon> This nightly/daily is booting different =o | |
| [04:41] <SailorMoon> Is using Gnome/unity really a good idea on a device like the Nexus 7? | |
| [04:42] <infinity> It's more a proof of concept at this point than a finished product. | |
| [04:42] <infinity> And a good baseline for people to go hunting memory/power/etc issues. | |
| [04:43] <SailorMoon> So you dont think we'll be using Gnome later on? :3 | |
| [04:44] <Jef91> So I got my file system loaded up with the installer scripts | |
| [04:44] <Jef91> It is getting kernel panic referencing various libnih .so files it is missing | |
| [04:44] <Jef91> but I am making progress | |
| [04:51] <infinity> SailorMoon: I can't say (because I honestly don't know -- ignorance is bliss) what direction the mobile/slate efforts will go in, but any work put into gnome/compiz/unity certainly won't be wasted effort. | |
| [04:51] <infinity> SailorMoon: Even if it doesn't end up being used for slates, I won't mind my laptop drawing 20% less power. :P | |
| [04:57] <SailorMoon> We need a Dock for this :3 | |
| [04:58] <SailorMoon> Turn it into a netbook lolz | |
| [04:58] <infinity> I need a way to both charge and have an external HDD, and I'll be happy. | |
| [04:58] <SailorMoon> a dock with its own Power cable | |
| [04:58] <SailorMoon> make it! | |
| [05:00] <SailorMoon> The build im using doesnt allow for input, not from on screen keys or from usb keyboard. | |
| [05:00] <SailorMoon> really weird. | |
| [05:19] <Jef91> So - I've got my file system booted up on the 7 - but the touch screen is non-functional. Any idea what ubuntu package contains the drivers so I can rebuild them? | |
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| [08:00] <dholbach> good morning | |
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| [13:44] <Jef91> Anyone know which ubuntu package contains the touch screen drivers for th eneus 7? | |
| [13:47] <kulve> Jef91: something-evdev | |
| [13:47] <kulve> if you mean the X.Org driver | |
| [13:47] <Jef91> X on my custom image starts fine and at the right resolution | |
| [13:48] <Jef91> but the sccreen doesn't react to touch input | |
| [13:57] <Jef91> hrm - I already have xserver-xorg-input-evdev installed kulve | |
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| [15:15] <Jef91> hrm, updated EV dev drivers got my touchscreen working. Just need to figure out why the touch points are being mirrored. Calibration issue odds are. | |
| [15:32] <Jef91> sfeole: I want to say thanks for the help yesterday - I was able to get my own image going based on the 12.10 images | |
| [15:32] <Tassadar> Anyone with 3g nexus7 here? Could you please run "blkid" and tell me what does it says? | |
| [16:09] <sfeole> Jef91: | |
| [16:09] <sfeole> Jef91: hey! Great!, I see you had a lengthy convo last night. Glad everyone could help you | |
| [16:10] <Jef91> mhmm - once I get the touch screen configurations right - I'll have some e17 goodness for the nexus7 to share | |
| [17:10] <prpplague> a gentle reminder that the Call For Participation for the Embedded Linux Conference deadline for submissions is Jan 4th! get your presenation proposals submitted soon! http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp | |
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| [20:59] <Jef91> Anyone know of a tool/configuration file for the evdev xorg driver | |
| [21:39] <stgraber> janimo, ogra_: hey, just trying lxc again on my nexus7, looks like the kernel is missing the bridge modules | |
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