| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| [05:26] <ScottK> Riddell: No more kdegames stuff in New. I did do some more fixups on a few before acceptings. | |
| [05:26] <ScottK> s/acceptings/accepting/ | |
| [05:26] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "Riddell: No more kdegames stuff in New. I did do some more fixups on a few before accepting." | |
| [06:10] <Tm_T> huh? | |
| [06:11] <Tm_T> "What’s the largest desktop migration to Ubuntu so far?85,000 desktops. La Gendarmerie Nationale, part of the French police force, faced growing IT infrastructure costs and decided to review its existing Microsoft-based environment." | |
| [06:11] <Tm_T> I thought we had way bigger | |
| [06:48] <soee> good morning | |
| [08:22] <invariant> When is 4.9.5 going to be released for precise? | |
| [08:42] <tsdgeos> 4.9.5 doesn't exist yet | |
| [08:42] <tsdgeos> if you are speaking of a kde sc release | |
| [08:59] <invariant> tsdgeos, I am referring to a fix for 311246. | |
| === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm | |
| [09:05] <yofel_> kde bug 311246 | |
| [09:05] <ubottu> KDE bug 311246 in general "Dolphin crashes when pasting files" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311246 | |
| [09:07] <yofel_> invariant: that should already be fixed in precise, do you still get the crash? | |
| [09:08] <invariant> yofel_, yes | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | |
| [09:09] <invariant> yofel, I see that a new release has already been made. | |
| [09:09] <yofel> invariant: what's the dolphin version that you have installed? | |
| [09:09] <invariant> yofel, most likely that will solve it then. | |
| [09:10] <yofel> please check, 4:4.9.4-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu12.04.1~ppa2 should work | |
| [09:10] <invariant> yofel, with kde-build-src, how can I set the configuration directory used (usually .kde)? | |
| [09:12] <yofel> ~/.kde? That should be $KDEHOME if I remember correctly | |
| [09:13] <invariant> yofel, ok, so if I just want to run one application from source, I can cp -r .kde .kdemy KDEHOME=.kdemy pathtomycompileddolphin ? | |
| [09:15] <yofel> should work. But I can't really guarantee what will happen as I haven't done that in a long time | |
| [10:31] <Riddell> new wallpaper http://wstaw.org/m/2012/12/18/g4058-2560.png ! | |
| [10:38] <Tm_T> so... KDE 3.2-esque? | |
| [10:39] <Tm_T> or what it was | |
| [10:39] <Tm_T> not bad, I like it | |
| [10:42] <yofel> +1 - grey was depressive | |
| [10:47] <Riddell> I approve of the purple, always have since feisty | |
| [10:48] <soee> Riddell, this is the new wallp ? | |
| [10:49] <Riddell> that's what I said | |
| [10:53] <Tm_T> I like how in my laptop display that purple is almost blue while on external monitor it has strong pink/purple | |
| [11:17] <BluesKaj> Hey all | |
| [11:24] <Tm_T> ay hell | |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | |
| [12:36] <apachelogger> my system is broken | |
| [12:36] <Riddell> uh oh | |
| [12:36] <Riddell> what happened? | |
| [12:36] <apachelogger> I have no idea | |
| [12:36] <apachelogger> initramfs gets stuck | |
| [12:36] <apachelogger> when doing a modprobe on i915 | |
| [12:36] <apachelogger> totallyw eird | |
| [12:37] <apachelogger> well, actually the modprobe seems to get stuck | |
| [12:38] <apachelogger> http://paste.kde.org/627224/ | |
| [12:39] <apachelogger> stupid kms | |
| [12:46] <Tm_T> apachelogger: I had an important production environment failing to mount ext2 last week | |
| [12:46] <Tm_T> I felt like a winner | |
| [12:55] * apachelogger sighs | |
| [13:07] <ScottK> Riddell: I'll be offline most of the day, but i think kde games are all done now. Would you please check and make sure there aren't any missing (i.e. rejected and not reuploaded)? | |
| [13:14] <Riddell> ScottK: yep, got them all synced to bzr thanks for the fixes | |
| === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc | |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | |
| [13:28] <Quintasan> \o | |
| [13:30] <Quintasan> Riddell: Looking at plasma media center | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> Quintasan: worth a try again | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> ask ksinny for any help | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> it needs a datamodel thing from plasma active | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> and of course it needs nepomuk in a working state | |
| [13:33] <Quintasan> apparently I have everything apart from QtMultimediaKit which is optional | |
| [13:34] <Quintasan> well | |
| [13:34] <Quintasan> it compiles | |
| [13:34] <Quintasan> and runs | |
| [13:35] <Quintasan> but does nothing | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> hmm not sure that's optional | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> if that's how it plays audio and video | |
| [13:36] <Riddell> and it needs nepomuk and thingy plasma active data model | |
| [13:37] <vHanda> AFAIK Nepomuk is optional | |
| [13:38] <Riddell> it can browse files in a traditional way to some extent | |
| [13:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: TBH it compiled just fine without qt magic | |
| [13:39] <Quintasan> and it didn't whine about plasma-active data model | |
| [13:39] <Quintasan> oh | |
| [13:39] <Quintasan> wait | |
| [13:39] <Quintasan> what | |
| [13:39] <Quintasan> it fixed itself | |
| [13:40] <Riddell> it doesn't whine | |
| [13:40] <Riddell> it just won't work | |
| [13:40] <Quintasan> well | |
| [13:40] <Quintasan> it works | |
| [13:40] <Quintasan> somehow it started working | |
| [13:41] <Riddell> hmm | |
| [13:41] <Quintasan> at first run I had only icons | |
| [13:41] <Quintasan> and clicking on them did nothing | |
| [13:42] <Quintasan> searching music is not as fast I wish it was | |
| [13:42] <Quintasan> well | |
| [13:42] <ronnoc> Riddell: Is there a public source on the web confirming the new wallpaper (which, BTW is awesome compared to the old depressing one) | |
| [13:42] <Quintasan> it's not even beta, is it? | |
| [13:43] <ronnoc> Riddell: Also, I have 13.04 to iron now full-time for daily use so feel free to ping me for testing, etc. :) | |
| [13:45] <Quintasan> Riddell: I can package it but I would not put it anywhere in repos | |
| [13:45] <Quintasan> I'd rather do a weekly build for it in PPA | |
| [13:46] <Riddell> new wallpapers in http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.10/kde-wallpapers/ | |
| [13:46] <Quintasan> Riddell: You can't even navigate using keyboard alone or mouse alone right now | |
| [13:46] <ronnoc> Quintasan: If you enable a PPA for PMC, ping me for testing | |
| [13:47] <Riddell> ronnoc: I'll remember to make use of that promise :) | |
| [13:47] <Quintasan> ronnoc: I won't create a PPA just for it, it will be part of both project neon and I think I'll either put it in my ppa | |
| [13:47] <Quintasan> or | |
| [13:47] <jussi> ronnoc: +++++ on the old wallpaper being depressing... | |
| [13:47] <Quintasan> Riddell: Can we put weeklies in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental? | |
| [13:48] <Riddell> Quintasan: well you can but since the point of that PPA is to be able to throw random things in who knows what it'll build against | |
| [13:48] * ronnoc Is willing to bet people went to Mint KDE just because the wallpaper kicked ass | |
| [13:48] <jussi> ronnoc: hehe, some I guess :P | |
| [13:49] <Quintasan> Riddell: I'll put it to staging then | |
| [13:49] <ronnoc> jussi: :) | |
| [13:49] <apachelogger> system fixed \o/ | |
| [13:50] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: unless I did something wrong kdm would always end up on VT8 by default | |
| [13:50] <apachelogger> (plymouth starts on 7 and supposedly due to KMS it is considered in use by KDM, so it uses the next free one) | |
| [13:50] <ronnoc> Quintasan: Since I'm running 13.04 no sense in me installing PN yet is there? I would just like to have a testing respoitory somewhere for it. If it's your personal one or whatever just let me know :) | |
| [13:51] <ronnoc> Riddell: I'll look forward to it. This release is going to be hella-solid. | |
| [13:51] <Quintasan> I think it will be in my private PPA for now | |
| [13:53] <Quintasan> oh wait | |
| [13:53] <Riddell> apachelogger: how did you fix it? | |
| [13:53] <Quintasan> ronnoc: We already have dailies for plasma-mediacenter | |
| [13:53] <Quintasan> using Project Neon | |
| [13:54] <ronnoc> Quintasan: That applicacable to 13.04 as well? | |
| [13:54] <Quintasan> oh well | |
| [13:54] <Quintasan> not really | |
| [13:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: drop the patch | |
| [13:55] <apachelogger> actually I just noticed that plymouth quit is async, so the init job prolly has to wait | |
| [13:55] <ronnoc> Quintasan: that's what I thought. hence my desire for a PPA :p | |
| [13:57] <Riddell> apachelogger: moi? | |
| [14:04] <yofel> Quintasan: the last thing I heard about the PN PMC builds was that they don't work (thanks to qtmobility). I haven't looked at it since then | |
| [14:05] <Riddell> Quintasan: did you follow build steps at http://www.sinny.in/node/25 ? | |
| [14:06] <Riddell> there's a guy has packages in blueleaflinux/ppa | |
| [14:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: more or less | |
| [14:08] <Quintasan> yofel: I have no idea why that compiles | |
| [14:08] <Quintasan> yofel: libqt4-opengl-dev, shared-desktop-ontologies are required deps yet our pn package has no such things | |
| [14:09] <Riddell> -dev is a required dep? | |
| [14:09] <Riddell> kde-runtime brings in shared-desktop-ontologies | |
| [14:09] <yofel> -kdelibs pulls in SDO and opengl, and qt4opengl is part of -qt | |
| [14:10] <yofel> Quintasan: so it builds fine, but mobility seems to cause a mess | |
| [14:12] <Quintasan> mmkay | |
| [14:12] <apachelogger> Riddell: nah, me | |
| [14:15] <apachelogger> le crap | |
| [14:15] <Riddell> Quintasan: using the one from blueleaflinux/ppa it has keyboard navigation | |
| [14:15] <apachelogger> plymouth quit && plymouth --wait does not work | |
| [14:15] <apachelogger> plymouth quit && plymouth --wait && sleep 1 does work | |
| [14:16] <Quintasan> Riddell: Well, I don't really care about what's there, I'll ask the packager if he is going to upstream his changes | |
| [14:17] <Quintasan> ronnoc: add ppa:quintasan/ppa and wait | |
| [14:17] <Quintasan> ronnoc: https://code.launchpad.net/~quintasan/+recipe/plasma-mediacenter-weekly | |
| [14:18] <Riddell> Quintasan: I don't think he's made any changes, he's just done packages | |
| [14:18] <Quintasan> theoretically it should build at first try | |
| [14:18] <Quintasan> Riddell: Then he has something that upstream didn't do | |
| [14:18] <Quintasan> cloned the repo as is, compiled and still can't navigate everything using keyboard only | |
| [14:18] <Quintasan> for example when you browse pictures | |
| [14:19] <Quintasan> you select one | |
| [14:19] <Quintasan> it goes full screen | |
| [14:19] <Quintasan> and arrows on keyboard do nothing here | |
| [14:19] <Riddell> oh I don't know about everywhere | |
| [14:19] <Riddell> that might be asking a bit much :) | |
| [14:19] <Quintasan> really? | |
| [14:20] <Quintasan> I though browsing through pictures using arrows and page up/down is common | |
| [14:22] <Quintasan> it doesnt play gifs | |
| [14:24] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: so.... unless we make the upstart script sleep for one second I can always make it go to VT8 as VT7 is at that point still used by plymouth despite using plymouth --wait | |
| [14:24] <apachelogger> opinions? | |
| [14:25] <Quintasan> ronnoc: raring build is apparently up | |
| [14:26] <apachelogger> Quintasan: control via keys is not a prime use case if you are designing for pointer based input devices | |
| [14:26] <Quintasan> apachelogger: It's a freaking media canter | |
| [14:26] <Quintasan> center* | |
| [14:26] <apachelogger> well | |
| [14:26] <Quintasan> You don't use a mouse to navigate that | |
| [14:26] <apachelogger> I did not say mouse | |
| [14:26] <Quintasan> >pointer-based | |
| [14:26] <Quintasan> You implied it | |
| [14:27] <apachelogger> imagine a touch screeny device DLNAing crap to your TV set or, for all intents and purposes, just sending the video signal there | |
| [14:28] <apachelogger> would not have a physical keyboard nor would you want one in that setup | |
| [14:29] <apachelogger> OTOH a computer wired to your TV would probably have key based input | |
| [14:29] <apachelogger> in fact, the TV does too ^^ | |
| [14:30] <apachelogger> so if you are designing for former you'd not care and if you were designing for latter you'd very much care | |
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| [14:31] <apachelogger> (seeing as former is however a very hightechy setup one gets to wonder whether it should be the target :P) | |
| [14:31] <apachelogger> (also it implies upnp support, which we do not have) | |
| [14:31] <Riddell> apachelogger: we don't use kdm so I don't think it matters much and we should drop the patch | |
| [14:32] <apachelogger> Riddell: we agreed on that already, now I am telling you that dropping the patch requires additional changes to the init job such as a sleep 1 | |
| [14:33] <Riddell> oh meh | |
| [14:34] <apachelogger> Riddell, ScottK: http://paste.kde.org/627266/ | |
| [14:36] <Riddell> apachelogger: well yeah looks ok | |
| [14:36] * apachelogger really wonders why that sleep is needed though :( | |
| [14:42] <apachelogger> ScottK: bug 641712 what to do? | |
| [14:42] <ubottu> bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641712 | |
| [14:58] * Riddell adds homerun to the seed | |
| [15:01] <Riddell> hi ricktimmis | |
| [15:01] <ricktimmis> Hey Jonathan, how are you today ? | |
| [15:02] <Riddell> ca va | |
| [15:02] <ricktimmis> Tre bienne | |
| [15:02] <ricktimmis> I'm working through the MOTU docs, and getting a Dev environment setup. | |
| [15:03] <ricktimmis> Didn't look at patching Ubiquity yet to test, as wasn'y sure how to approach it, and didn't want to look daft asking. | |
| [15:03] <ricktimmis> What I mean by this is | |
| [15:03] <Riddell> ricktimmis: actually I put the patch in, but it still needs testing | |
| [15:03] <Riddell> ricktimmis: so if you can grab a daily image and test that would be uber cool | |
| [15:03] <ricktimmis> Do I patch a prebuild then make an ISO, or can I simply patch the ISO and try the installer with the new code, or am I so far off I should really go RTFM | |
| [15:04] <ricktimmis> Ah ha is it patched now in the daily build ? | |
| [15:05] <Riddell> ricktimmis: yes, so needs testing before anyone notices it's broken | |
| [15:05] <ricktimmis> Ah right OK, well I have today's buildin Testdrive, will do it for you now, brb | |
| [15:08] * Riddell out for a bit | |
| [15:09] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ping | |
| [15:18] <Quintasan> Riddell: Since we got moved to universe, can't we just build amarok with all features? | |
| [15:24] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping | |
| [15:26] <Quintasan> gotta package kdevelop | |
| [15:28] <Quintasan> yofel: bad things will happen if I upgrade to 4.9.90? | |
| [15:28] <Quintasan> oh well | |
| [15:29] <Quintasan> whatever | |
| [15:29] <yofel> not really | |
| [15:29] <Quintasan> I will be installing raring anyways | |
| [15:29] <Quintasan> INSTALL ALL THE THINGS | |
| [15:29] <yofel> today should be rc1 tagging anyway | |
| [15:30] <Quintasan> oh | |
| [15:30] <Quintasan> so new kdevelop is in raring | |
| [15:30] <Quintasan> but we ain't got backports | |
| [15:31] <yofel> uhm, 4.4.1 is in quantal-updates - is there something newer? | |
| [15:31] <Quintasan> it is there? | |
| [15:31] * Quintasan didn't notice it there | |
| [15:31] <Quintasan> whatever | |
| [15:31] <yofel> !info kdevelop quantal-updates | |
| [15:31] <ubottu> 'quantal-updates' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | |
| [15:31] <yofel> uhuh... | |
| [15:31] <yofel> !info kdevelop quantal | |
| [15:31] <ubottu> kdevelop (source: kdevelop): integrated development environment for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.3.90-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 1221 kB, installed size 4835 kB | |
| [15:31] <Quintasan> See | |
| [15:31] <yofel> !info kdevelop quantal-proposed | |
| [15:31] <ubottu> Package kdevelop does not exist in quantal-proposed | |
| [15:32] <yofel> this is le broken | |
| [15:32] <yofel> 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 0 | |
| [15:32] <yofel> 500 http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/universe amd64 Packages | |
| [15:32] <Quintasan> I believe shadeslayer broke it | |
| [15:32] <Quintasan> mfw I started hacking on Amarok | |
| [15:32] <Quintasan> I have absloutely no idea what I'm doing | |
| [15:32] <Quintasan> but I pray it will work | |
| [15:33] <Quintasan> if it doesn't then I won't be able to avoid reading docs | |
| [15:36] <Quintasan> Pakiet: /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-pl_4%3a4.9.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1_all.deb | |
| [15:36] <Quintasan> Błąd: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/pl/LC_MESSAGES/plasma_applet_printmanager.mo', which is also in package print-manager 0.2.0-0ubuntu3 | |
| [15:39] <yofel> Quintasan: will you fix that or should I? | |
| [15:40] <Quintasan> yofel: go ahead | |
| [15:41] <Quintasan> Don't want to break the Philip Muškovac streak over there :P | |
| [15:41] <ricktimmis> Ridell: I have ISO 2012-12-18 06:42 - The fault persists, and appears unchanged from last weeks image. | |
| [15:41] <yofel> lol | |
| [15:42] <Quintasan> brb | |
| [15:42] <ricktimmis> Riddell: No check box for Encrypt, and Radio button are all Mutex. | |
| [15:44] <Quintasan> Works | |
| [16:34] <shadeslayer> huh? | |
| [16:34] <shadeslayer> whut | |
| [16:35] <shadeslayer> from rmadison : kdevelop | 4:4.4.1-0ubuntu0.1 | quantal-updates/universe | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc | |
| [16:35] <shadeslayer> whats wrong? | |
| [16:37] <shadeslayer> ubottu is broken | |
| [16:37] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is broken | |
| [16:37] <shadeslayer> don't blame me | |
| [16:38] <shadeslayer> that new wallpaper is really nice | |
| [16:47] <ronnoc> Riddell: +1 for Homerun. Should be the default IMHO. | |
| [16:48] <ronnoc> Quintasan: Ok. Up where exactly? PN? | |
| [16:53] <soee> no signs of rc1 ? | |
| [16:54] <shadeslayer> not yet | |
| [16:54] <shadeslayer> and it's tagging day today | |
| [16:54] <shadeslayer> release probably will take a couple of days | |
| [16:55] <soee> :) | |
| [16:56] <shadeslayer> afiestas: kio-mtp ping, do you guys have a release planned? | |
| [16:57] <shadeslayer> or should I ask someone to upload my git snapshot? | |
| [16:57] <afiestas> no | |
| [16:57] <shadeslayer> afiestas: so just upload a git snapshot? | |
| [16:58] <shadeslayer> overall testing has been positive ... so just wondering | |
| [17:01] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pong | |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | |
| [17:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: random thoughts on bug 1090788 ? | |
| [17:04] <ubottu> bug 1090788 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "Please do not use plasma-netbook for netbooks (wishlist)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1090788 | |
| [17:04] <apachelogger> yofel: ^ | |
| [17:04] <yofel> would make it kinda useless - but I wouldn't vote against it if asked | |
| [17:06] <apachelogger> yofel: would make what useless? | |
| [17:08] <simplew> running 'kcmshell4 userconfig' crashes in raring | |
| [17:10] <apachelogger> backtrace? | |
| [17:13] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: FWIW, encrypting /home has a sizable impact on performance so defaulting to encryption sounds like a very bad idea (i.e. flame war ahead) | |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| [17:16] <ricktimmis> apachelogger: No FW, that's fine, without overhead then defaulting to the most Secure state would seem appeal, but I agree don't do it if it creates a big overhead. Interestingly after posting that, I noticed that Lubuntu appears to have this working the way we would want. | |
| [17:17] <simplew> apachelogger: its due to new python | |
| [17:17] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: you mean autologin and encryption not being mutually exclusive? | |
| [17:18] <simplew> apachelogger: tell how cani gdb 'kcmshell4 userconfig' | |
| [17:18] <apachelogger> when a kde app crashes you should get a backtrace | |
| [17:18] <apachelogger> also gdb --args foo bar foobar randomarg more random args | |
| [17:19] <apachelogger> kubuntu_fix_screenshot_compile.diff ... not documented ... not mentioned in the changelog ... hooray | |
| [17:20] <ricktimmis> apachelogger: Not quite they are Mutex in Lubuntu, but my thinking was the 2nd drive for /home use case where a stolen drive would benefit from encryption even if the user never realised encryption was enable, but perhaps that's an exception to prove the rule. | |
| [17:20] * apachelogger bzr blames JontheEchidna | |
| [17:20] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: y u no document patches? | |
| [17:21] <ricktimmis> apachelogger: Out everything I posted the bit about hidding this from the user and defaulting to a Password login appeals, trying to keep things as simple as possible. | |
| [17:21] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: well, you can turn on autologin after install | |
| [17:21] <apachelogger> I think that allowing every possible option should not be a concern of the installer | |
| [17:22] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: I am all for hiding things ;) | |
| [17:22] <ricktimmis> apachelogger: Agreed, me too. | |
| [17:22] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: what's that patch do and why is it there and why is it not upstream and ...? | |
| [17:23] <ricktimmis> apacherlogger: I posted because I understood from the report that a fix had been commited, I tested todays build of Raring, and the issue still appeared to be there. Most likely because I don't know what I am doing yet ! | |
| [17:23] <simplew> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448005/ | |
| [17:24] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: it may be that the fix did not yet land on the build | |
| [17:26] <apachelogger> ricktimmis: the change is not in the archive yet from what I can see | |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio_ | |
| [17:27] <simplew> apachelogger: good enough? | |
| [17:27] <apachelogger> simplew: do you get an error output as well? | |
| [17:27] <apachelogger> fatalerror sounds like there should be an error message somewhere | |
| [17:27] <simplew> apachelogger: an error output? | |
| [17:28] <simplew> apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1448017 | |
| [17:29] <simplew> apachelogger: like i said, its due to new python, userconfid needs to build against new python | |
| [17:29] <apachelogger> ah yes | |
| [17:29] <apachelogger> argument order seems to have changed in python 3.2 | |
| [17:30] <apachelogger> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/vim_dev/5MYb23t9ZBM | |
| [17:30] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ^ enjoy | |
| [17:30] <apachelogger> simplew: userconfig is written entirely in python it needs no building at all | |
| [17:34] <simplew> apachelogger: another thing, when in the window 'kcmshell4 userconfig' isnt possible to have the groups sorted by name | |
| [17:34] <apachelogger> userconfig is unmaintained | |
| [17:35] <simplew> so if isnt maintanined anymore why it continues to be packaged? | |
| [17:35] <apachelogger> because it works(tm) | |
| [17:35] <simplew> well now doesnt | |
| [17:36] <apachelogger> whoop | |
| [17:36] <apachelogger> pykde4 doesn't | |
| [17:36] <apachelogger> more specifically the kpythonpluginfactory is not working | |
| [17:37] <simplew> still if is packaged in kubuntu it should be maintained in some way, so why bother reporting bugs and provide support? | |
| === Tonio_ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| [17:42] <apachelogger> simplew: perhaps someone will pick it up continue development | |
| [17:43] <simplew> apachelogger: i dont think thats a valid option, if its part of kubuntu default packages must be supported | |
| [17:43] <simplew> apachelogger: else dropped | |
| [17:43] <apachelogger> yeah | |
| [17:43] <apachelogger> except I did not say it is not support | |
| [17:43] <apachelogger> I said it is not maintained | |
| [17:47] <simplew> apachelogger: well its has severall bugs, like not being able to sort groups by name, when you are creating a user and you set some group before the user is created the group name disapepars | |
| [17:48] <simplew> apachelogger: so unless someone maintains it should be dropped | |
| [17:48] <apachelogger> feel free to discuss it on the mailing list | |
| [17:50] <apachelogger> simplew: whenever https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/staging/+build/4072217 is finished you can get a new version from ppa:apachelogger/staging which should fix the crash | |
| [17:50] * apachelogger leaves for today | |
| [17:51] <simplew> apachelogger: how much time will take to appear on mirrors? | |
| [17:51] <apachelogger> there are no mirrors because I have not uploaded it to the archive because I have no raring setup to test the change | |
| [17:52] <apachelogger> so when that build there finishes it should be available from the ppa immediately or you can simply grab the debs manually | |
| [17:52] <apachelogger> there are only like 3 or 4 anyway | |
| [17:52] <apachelogger> now really -> away | |
| [18:26] <shadeslayer> Riddell: <alaa> I have a question,is kubuntu.org/feature-tour really has screenshots that goes back to KDE 4.3.2 ?! | |
| [18:26] <shadeslayer> from #kubuntu-devel | |
| [18:26] <shadeslayer> erm | |
| [18:26] <shadeslayer> #kubuntu | |
| [18:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: very likely | |
| [18:43] <Riddell> shadeslayer: invite him to help fix it | |
| [18:43] <shadeslayer> he's gone | |
| [19:11] <ronnoc> Riddell: I'll help get it in shape. Who do I talk to? Also, is Calligra going to be coming back into the daily builds? | |
| [19:15] <soee> i can help to with website stuff :) | |
| [19:16] <Riddell> ronnoc: the feature tour? | |
| [19:17] <Riddell> ronnoc: make improvements and we'll put them in | |
| [19:17] <Riddell> ooh all the helpers now | |
| [19:19] <ronnoc> ok. will play around with it and send via mailing list, if that's the preferred way. | |
| [19:19] <ricktimmis> apachelogger: Sorry was away for dinner, I see OK. I will watch out for the patch being release into the daily build and test when I can. Thanx | |
| [19:20] <Riddell> ronnoc: daily builds as in neon? I don't have much to do with that | |
| [19:21] <Riddell> but there's a new calligra I just uploaded could do with a test | |
| [19:21] <Riddell> in raring | |
| [19:21] <ronnoc> Riddell: If I have Calligra installed in Raring should I just update to get the latest? | |
| [19:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did you upload ktp? because I forgot the meta package in there | |
| [19:23] <Riddell> not yet | |
| [19:24] <shadeslayer> ah cool | |
| [19:24] <shadeslayer> uploaded it then | |
| [19:24] <Riddell> still eating this haggis pizza | |
| [19:24] <shadeslayer> :D | |
| [19:24] <ronnoc> heh | |
| [19:24] <ronnoc> Ok downloaded the updated Calligra. Will have a go and try to break things. | |
| [19:26] <ronnoc> wow Krita is only 3.6MB. It's half the size of Stage! Who wudda thunk it. | |
| [19:46] <Riddell> ronnoc: I'd guess templates take up the space? | |
| [19:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw any ideas why we don't ship whoopsie? | |
| [19:53] <shadeslayer> seems like everyone else ships it | |
| [19:53] <Riddell> nope | |
| [19:54] <shadeslayer> something to investigate ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker | |
| [19:55] <yofel> shadeslayer: we have an open bug that everyone else fixed - I'm just not convinced by the "fix" | |
| [19:55] <shadeslayer> oh, which one? | |
| [19:55] <yofel> why should kubuntu-desktop depend on it when apport is the only thing that uses it? | |
| [19:56] <iulian_> hello, can someone please can help me to fix this http://paste.kde.org/627428/ | |
| [19:56] <yofel> shadeslayer: bug 1001630 | |
| [19:56] <ubottu> bug 1001630 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc. no longer upload crash reports as of Precise" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1001630 | |
| [19:57] <shadeslayer> hmm | |
| [19:57] <shadeslayer> I agree | |
| [19:58] <shadeslayer> yofel: I just noticed this because apport prompts me to send reports | |
| [19:58] <shadeslayer> but I didn't see anything being sent | |
| [19:58] <shadeslayer> which is just as bad | |
| [19:58] <Riddell> iulian_: /usr/share/applications/kde/kresources.desktop looks like a file you installed yourself, it's not in any of our packages | |
| [19:59] <shadeslayer> so yeah, needs fixing in apport | |
| [20:00] <Riddell> iulian_: when I look at that im-switch file it looks fine so I guess you're on quantal or older? I'm on raring | |
| [20:00] <iulian_> kubuntu 10.10 kde 4.5.5 | |
| [20:01] <Riddell> iulian_: ooh that's old, time to upgrade :) | |
| [20:01] <ronnoc> Riddell: Yea definately all the included templates in Stage make it bigger - but I was equally suprised at the small size of Krita for all it does :) | |
| [20:02] <iulian_> yes, yes just messed up some icons after upgrades think its something with hicolor-icon-theme | |
| [20:02] <shadeslayer> actually | |
| [20:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ~ » desktop-file-validate /usr/share/app-install/desktop/im-switch:im-switch.desktop shadeslayer@solembum | |
| [20:02] <shadeslayer> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/im-switch:im-switch.desktop: error: value "Settings" for string list key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" does not have a semicolon (';') as trailing character | |
| [20:03] <shadeslayer> on raring | |
| [20:03] <shadeslayer> same for /usr/share/applications/im-switch.desktop | |
| [20:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ooh you're right | |
| [20:04] <shadeslayer> but it's more or less a warning and an upstream issue | |
| [20:04] <Riddell> well it's a native package | |
| [20:05] <shadeslayer> oh | |
| [20:05] * Quintasan was successful at thread managment in Qt | |
| [20:05] <Quintasan> http://paste.kde.org/627434 | |
| [20:05] <Quintasan> not that actually solves anything | |
| [20:05] <shadeslayer> :D | |
| [20:06] <Riddell> iulian_: ok so there is a wee something to fix, download the package, fix it, add changelog, rebuild source, get debdiff, report bug. let me know if you need help with any of that | |
| [20:06] <Quintasan> the next line blocks IO so I'm back at start | |
| [20:06] <shadeslayer> haha | |
| [20:07] <Quintasan> and the worst thing is | |
| [20:07] <Quintasan> there is a method to write tags using threads | |
| [20:07] <Quintasan> but there isn't one to read tags | |
| [20:07] <Quintasan> and the next line is fucking reading the tag | |
| [20:07] <Quintasan> !@$%$@# | |
| [20:08] <iulian_> Riddell: it's not bug there is how file look http://paste.kde.org/627452/ | |
| [20:08] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Did you know that amarok did tag writing in the main thread? | |
| [20:08] <shadeslayer> nope | |
| [20:09] <Quintasan> It essentialy caused the whole ui to freeze is you tired to tag more files at once | |
| [20:09] <Quintasan> The music would be still playing | |
| [20:09] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6PZhONZ3Ac | |
| [20:09] <Quintasan> even if you killed the amarok window using ctrl+esc :D | |
| [20:09] <shadeslayer> hah | |
| [20:10] <Quintasan> I'm trying | |
| [20:10] <Quintasan> I don't think I'll be able to though | |
| [20:11] <Riddell> iulian_: there's no file at /usr/share/kde/services/kresources.desktop | |
| [20:11] <Riddell> there was one at /usr/share/kde4/services/kresources.desktop but not any more | |
| [20:11] <Riddell> so that issue isn't valid | |
| [20:12] <Riddell> but the im-switch one can be fixed if you like | |
| [20:14] <iulian_> ok, but what i have installed ro appear this file, seems like i have two desktop entries | |
| [20:23] <ScottK> apachelogger: I would like upstream's opinion. Plasma netbook is somewhat under maintained these days. In general thought, I think the proposed change would not align well with being close to upstream. Additionally, except for the page one thing, I don't find it particularly buggy. | |
| [20:24] <ScottK> apachelogger: re bug 641712 - wontfix. | |
| [20:24] <ubottu> bug 641712 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Not possible to enter password for a new user in KDM (Maverick, Natty and Oneiric)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641712 | |
| [20:25] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks for checking, re KDE games. | |
| [20:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: breakage on armhf build of ktp-call-ui 0.5.2-0ubuntu1 in ubuntu raring PROPOSED | |
| [20:29] <shadeslayer> yep, on it | |
| [20:29] <shadeslayer> chroot problem? | |
| [20:29] <shadeslayer> can't do much about it :P | |
| [20:30] <Quintasan> ask lp admins to fix it | |
| [20:30] * Quintasan hides | |
| [20:31] <yofel> just retry and hope you get a different builder this time | |
| [20:35] <ronnoc> Has anyone tried the Ubuntu One Client on Raring yet? Or does anyone here use Ubnutu One? (I'm assuming not likely :P ) | |
| [20:36] <Riddell> not I | |
| [20:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: nasl is broken :P | |
| [20:37] <ronnoc> Riddell: Ok. Seems to be broken in Raring. I submitted a bug. | |
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| [20:39] <shadeslayer> heh, tp-logger-qt got nasl again | |
| [22:11] <rick_timmis> ronnoc: I use Ubuntu One, as a DropBox type of system, not Music though | |
| [22:30] <Quintasan> ronnoc: did you get the pmc build for raring or it failed? | |
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| [22:57] <shadeslayer> kewl | |
| [22:57] <shadeslayer> RC1 uploaded | |
| [22:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you run the initial upload? | |
| [23:03] <Riddell> shadeslayer: mm? | |
| [23:03] <Riddell> oh, a late night SC release | |
| [23:04] <Riddell> let's see what I can do | |
| [23:04] <shadeslayer> aye | |
| === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_aw | |
| [23:31] <shadeslayer> apol: jumpy much? :P | |
| [23:33] <Riddell> hmm it is public | |
| [23:34] <Riddell> a mistake somewhere I think, RCs don't get a lot of packager time but they do need test compiles | |
| [23:34] <Riddell> or not, according to albert | |
| [23:35] <shadeslayer> really? 0.o | |
| [23:35] <shadeslayer> I also don't see a announcement on kde.org | |
| [23:35] <apol> well... the _early_ component in testing is important... | |
| [23:35] <shadeslayer> also | |
| [23:35] <shadeslayer> The tarballs are in their usual packager-only location (unstable/4.9.95) | |
| [23:35] <shadeslayer> keyword being packager-only | |
| [23:36] <shadeslayer> so I think it's a mistake | |
| [23:36] <Riddell> it's public so it's mirrored before the announce tomorrow apparantly | |
| [23:36] <shadeslayer> hm | |
| [23:36] <shadeslayer> I blame albert, he said packagers only location | |
| [23:36] <shadeslayer> so I didn't check public repos | |
| === Tonio_aw is now known as Tonio__ | |