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[01:34] <jAguAr`> how do i set up my new Canon MG3122 printer to work?
[01:54] <mikodo> I wish there was a not so technical channel for casual users: This channel implies noobish user, #ubuntu is full of seasoned geeks! No in between seems
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[18:10] <RickZilla> I'm kind of a retread for ubuntu beginners...I first used it about 4 years ago, got frustrated with it, used Linux Mint for awhile, now I have a fresh 12.10 install. I'm really liking this one. I debated going with 12.10 and updating more often, or 12.4 with the LTS. I'm still not sure if I made the right decision.
[18:21] <holstein> RickZilla: do both.. or neither
[18:21] <holstein> really doesnt matter.. there are pros and cons to both
[18:22] <holstein> what do it do? lts's where its "mission critical" or something i dont want to mess with much
[18:22] <holstein> my audio production machine is dual booting 10.04 and 12.04 right now
[18:23] <holstein> my daily use laptop is running 12.04, and it will likely stay that way, unless something for the nvidia ion chipset comes around that i *must* have
[18:23] <RickZilla> This is just a home laptop, I want to use it rather than upgrading all the time
[18:23] <holstein> i use 12.10 other places and would use it for sure.. the reason i do LTS is the support time, not the stability
[18:24] <RickZilla> That's kind of what I was thinking
[18:24] <holstein> RickZilla: 14.04 LTS will be out before 12.10 is not supported any longer
[18:24] <RickZilla> I may retrograde at some point
[18:24] <holstein> or, maybe you'll really want 13.10..
[18:24] <RickZilla> lol, decisions decisions
[18:25] <holstein> i keep my data backed up.. it doesnt take long to change distros
[18:25] <RickZilla> right
[18:25] <RickZilla> I have a few ppa's that I like to keep around also
[18:25] <holstein> the audio production environment is a little different.. but for the desktop, i can reinstall and be up and running in like 20 minutes
[18:25] * RickZilla is away: afk
[18:26] <holstein> i say, take a minute and ask yourself, what would you do if that hard drive never booted up again.. which is a plasible scenario that *will* happen at some point
[18:27] <holstein> in the process or properly backing up your data, and making sure it is easily and properly recoverable, i think you'll find that reinstallation of the OS is not that big of a deal
[18:27] <holstein> if the idea of reinstalling the OS fills you with anxiety, its liley due to not having proper backups in place
[18:27] <holstein> likely*
[18:28] <holstein> that being said, i dont want to constantly be fooling around with my "daily driver"
[18:28] <holstein> i have it mirrored from when i first installed the OS and moved all my stuff in and got it setup.. and i have my data otherwise backed up as well
[18:29] <holstein> but, i plan on staying on 12.04 til 14.04.. again, unless something with the nvidia ion is just too appealing to pass up.. and i can always dual boot
[18:38] <RickZilla> Reinstalling OS is not a problem, I keep backups of critical stuff on externals and cloud storage
[18:39] <RickZilla> I installed 12.10 alongside windows, and I'm not sure how to access that to install ubuntu over the other one, without messing up Windows, but I'll figure that out
[19:16] <holstein> RickZilla: i typically blow out the linux partitions, and reinstall choosing "install alongside windows on the free space"
[19:52] <RickZilla> holstein What do you use to blow out the partition?
[19:54] <holstein> RickZilla: either a live cd like gparted or the ultimate boot cd.. or gparted from the live CD that i am install from.. i rarely install without loading up a live CD a few times first and doing some tests
[19:54] <RickZilla> ah, didn't think about using a live cd for that, I'll keep that in mind for when the time comes
[20:15] <holstein> RickZilla: theres also a custom option in the installer.. you can go in there and blow them out, or just set them to be formatted and re-used
[21:25] <raub> Does anyone know what the file /dev/btrfs-control is for, specially in a machine that does not use btrfs?
[21:26] <holstein> raub: its empty on my machine.. id say its something that btrfs would use
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