| [12:56] <jlamothe> Does anyone here have any experinece with lubntu? | |
| [16:36] <willwh> jlamothe: a bit yah | |
| [16:36] <willwh> although I am not running it currently | |
| [17:00] <jlamothe> I've just switched my netbook over to lubuntu, and was wondering if thers a way to get the mail notification icon that regular ubuntu has. | |
| [17:00] <jlamothe> There's a popup that shows up, but that only does me any good if I happen to be looking at the screen when it happens. | |
| [17:11] <willwh> this may help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1959611 | |
| [17:14] <jlamothe> This looks promising. Thanks. | |
| [17:17] <willwh> np | |
| [19:48] <willwh> hey guys | |
| [19:48] <willwh> random Q | |
| [19:49] <willwh> I use apache + usermod | |
| [19:49] <willwh> I want to give access to a friend to be able to write to my /home/willwh/public_html/somedir | |
| [19:49] <willwh> so I created a new group "web" - added willwh, and the other user to the group | |
| [19:50] <willwh> chown -R willwh:web ~/public_html/somedir/ | |
| [19:50] <willwh> I can use WinSCP with the other account - and it does save file changes | |
| [19:50] <willwh> but WinSCP is throwing permissions errors | |
| [19:50] <willwh> hjalp! :) | |
| [20:10] <Chex> willwh: sounds like a job for S-ticy bit | |
| [20:10] <Chex> Sticky | |
| === johanbr_ is now known as johanbr | |
| [20:36] <willwh> Chex: huh? :] | |
| [21:01] <Chex> willwh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions | |
| [21:01] <Chex> willwh: take a look at sticky bits | |
| [23:01] <willwh> thx | |
| [23:04] <willwh> Chex: well... I read it, didn't fully understand | |
| [23:09] <BobJonkman> willwh: The sticky bit on the Group permission for a directory will give the same permission to all folders and files created under that directory | |
| [23:09] <willwh> so how do I set that? | |
| [23:09] <BobJonkman> It's a way to ensure all files and directories created have the same group owner | |
| [23:10] <BobJonkman> It's been a while, but from memory: chmod -R g+S folder/ | |
| [23:10] <BobJonkman> -R make it recursive so it applies to all subfolders | |
| [23:10] <BobJonkman> g+S set the Sticky Bit for Group | |
| [23:11] <willwh> ah :) | |
| [23:12] <BobJonkman> So now, whatever user:group ownership you have on "folder/" will automatically apply to new folders and files you create under folder/ | |
| [23:12] <willwh> mmm | |
| [23:12] <willwh> g+S didn't seem to work | |
| [23:12] <BobJonkman> My memory ain't what it used to be | |
| [23:12] <willwh> ;] | |
| [23:13] <BobJonkman> If you're not already the owner of that folder (and its subordinates) then you might have to sudo that | |
| [23:14] <willwh> I did | |
| [23:14] * BobJonkman experiments on a temp folder | |
| [23:15] <BobJonkman> hmmm... chmod -R g+s folder/ works, but I remember something about a difference between g+s and g+S | |
| [23:16] <BobJonkman> And funny thing, applying g+s still shows with a S when I ls -l | |
| [23:18] <willwh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions#Sticky_Bit | |
| [23:18] <willwh> :D | |
| [23:19] <willwh> grrrrrrrrr | |
| [23:19] <willwh> I set get perm issues from winscp | |
| [23:19] <willwh> it is saving it | |
| [23:19] <willwh> but puking and saying permission errors | |
| [23:21] <BobJonkman> That link shows adding sticky bit to "Other" permission. I've only used it with Group. | |
| [23:21] <willwh> ah | |
| [23:22] <willwh> The sticky bit. It's needed for "other" in shared directories like /tmp. It's needed for "group" in shared directories where write permission is given to a group, like /var/www | |
| [23:23] <BobJonkman> That's right, so that any files and directories created get the same permissions and ownership as the parent | |
| [23:23] <BobJonkman> In other OSes it's called Inherited File Rights | |
| [23:24] <BobJonkman> And other OSes (I'm thinking Netware, not Windows) the file system has a lot more finesse over assigning file rights. | |
| [23:25] <BobJonkman> Linux file permissions are great for their simplicity (mostly), but lacks fine-grained control. | |
| [23:25] <BobJonkman> I've never played with it, but there's a whole set of extended file rights available | |
| [23:25] <BobJonkman> Can't think of the package that provides it; it'll come to me | |
| [23:26] <willwh> https://gist.github.com/24e8aa1edb9b7a521ef5 | |
| [23:26] <willwh> so that is actually at /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf | |
| [23:27] <willwh> I have a user account called "zealot" - whose home directory is set to /home/willwh/public_html/ilovedf | |
| [23:27] <willwh> so when I SCP in, that is what I get | |
| [23:28] <willwh> zealot is also in the "web" group | |
| [23:31] <BobJonkman> There's a way of assigning permissions to specific accounts with Access Control Lists | |
| [23:32] <BobJonkman> ACLs are more like what I'm used to on Netware and Windows | |
| [23:32] <BobJonkman> man acl | |
| [23:32] <BobJonkman> Haven't played with ACLs on Linux, and I suspect you don't need it for what you're trying to do | |
| [23:35] <willwh> ye | |
| [23:35] <willwh> I just want to let one user account edit crap in a dir under my user's home dir | |
| [23:36] <BobJonkman> try setting the group owner for that folder to that user's home group | |
| [23:40] <BobJonkman> Sorry, willwh, I've gotta go. I suspect I'm not being all that useful anyway... | |
| [23:40] <willwh> np BobJonkman thx for the assistance!! | |
| [23:41] <BobJonkman> you're welcome, for what it's worth. | |
| [23:41] <BobJonkman> I'll be back in a couple of hours. Dinner needs to be made and eaten | |