| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | |
| === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk | |
| [01:54] <mjrosenb> so I'm trying to update my chromebook to 12.10 | |
| [01:55] <mjrosenb> and it is failing due to a checksum mismatch | |
| [01:55] <mjrosenb> W:Failed to fetch | |
| [01:55] <mjrosenb> gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ports.ubuntu.com_ubuntu-ports_dists_quantal_main_binary-armhf_Packages | |
| [02:02] <persia> Try again now (it's been 5 minutes). That usually means a mirror goes wonky, which is usually solved shortly for the mirrors identified by "ports.ubuntu.com" | |
| [02:11] <mjrosenb> I tried at like noon, and was getting it then | |
| [02:11] * mjrosenb tries again | |
| [02:12] <mjrosenb> nopepe, still there | |
| [02:13] <mjrosenb> s/pe// | |
| [02:41] <mjrosenb> any other suggestions? | |
| [03:07] <persia> Maybe delete everything under /var/lib/apt/lists/ and run `apt-get update` again? This should redownload everything, but it won't fix it if it's an issue with the checksums on the server. | |
| [03:16] <infinity> It won't be a mirror issue, that file has been static for months. | |
| [03:16] <infinity> Unless it's actually corrupt on the mirror he's hitting. | |
| [03:17] <infinity> Which is pretty unlikely for ports. | |
| [03:18] <infinity> Nope, looks fine from here. | |
| [03:18] <infinity> mjrosenb: Try persia's "delete the world and try harder" approach. | |
| [03:21] * mjrosenb is running apt-get update as i type | |
| === heathkid|2 is now known as heathkid | |
| [03:29] <mjrosenb> well, that is strange | |
| [03:29] <mjrosenb> it says there is no new release | |
| [03:30] <mjrosenb> but dist-upgrade wants to upgrade 1,223 packages | |
| [03:30] <mjrosenb> and /etc/issue now says that I am running 12.10 | |
| [03:30] <TheMuso> Are the nexus7 raring images working yet? | |
| [03:31] <persia> apt believes you to be running 12.10 with outdated packages (based on the content of /etc/apt/sources.list) | |
| [03:31] <mjrosenb> persia: sounds right. | |
| [03:31] * mjrosenb wonders if this is going to attempt to install a new kernel | |
| [03:31] <mjrosenb> and how that is going to go if it does | |
| [03:32] <persia> It will only do so if you have a kernel package installed for which there is a newer package available in your currently configured archives. | |
| === zz_chihchun is now known as chihchun | |
| [03:37] <mjrosenb> I never installed a kernel package | |
| [03:38] <mjrosenb> although I should still get perf on here at some point or other. | |
| [03:40] <mjrosenb> and iirc, the kernel that this is running was just copied from chromium so we'd get nice driver support out of the box | |
| [04:45] <mjrosenb> great, now plymouth is throwing an assertion | |
| [04:45] <mjrosenb> hrmm | |
| [04:45] <mjrosenb> actually, I have absolutely no clue how to recover this system | |
| [04:52] <[mbm]> mjrosenb: nexus7? | |
| [04:53] <[mbm]> there was an open bug about that one; the console=none in the kernel commandline was causing issues, and plymouth had been disabled until it could be fixed | |
| [05:01] <mjrosenb> [mbm]: no, chromebook. | |
| [05:38] <mjrosenb> although I would not be surpred if this is the same assertion that the nexus 7 is throwing | |
| [06:16] <mjrosenb> so, I'd like to do something fancy like init=/bin/bash | |
| [06:16] <mjrosenb> but I don't actually know how to touch the kernel arguments on here. | |
| [08:01] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [08:05] <mjrosenb> morning. | |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | |
| [09:31] <ppisati> http://lwn.net/Articles/526920/ | |
| [09:31] <ppisati> Support for Tegra 2D hardware | |
| [09:32] <ogra_> ppisati, heh, you just missed the person intrested in it most :) | |
| [09:33] <ogra_> (though igues marvin24 has seen it already) | |
| [09:33] <ogra_> marvin24, <ppisati> http://lwn.net/Articles/526920/ | |
| [09:34] <ogra_> ppisati, sadly tegradrm doesnt work with the binary driver yet | |
| [09:34] <ogra_> (afaik) | |
| [09:35] <marvin24> ogra_, ppisati: yeah, this will take a *long* time | |
| [09:35] <ogra_> right, and thanks to our new desktop policy we are bound to the GLES drivers | |
| [09:35] <ogra_> so even if it would land tomorrow, we couldnt use it | |
| [09:36] <lilstevie> cause of unity | |
| [09:36] <ogra_> well, compiz, but yeah | |
| [09:36] <marvin24> what abount software gles? | |
| [09:36] <marvin24> *about* | |
| [09:36] <ogra_> i didnt get it working on the nexus yet | |
| [09:36] <ogra_> i have it working on the chromebook and dont know why :) | |
| [09:37] <mjrosenb> does anyone know how to change the parameters that the kernel gets on a chromebook? | |
| [09:37] <marvin24> ogra_: strange ... | |
| [09:37] <ogra_> mjrosenb, probably hrw | |
| [09:37] <hrw> mjrosenb: you have to sign kernel and at that stage you can change cmdline | |
| [09:37] <hrw> easy | |
| [09:38] <hrw> mjrosenb: > | |
| [09:38] <hrw> > | |
| [09:38] <hrw> > | |
| [09:38] <hrw> ops | |
| [09:38] <hrw> mjrosenb: https://plus.google.com/u/0/109993695638569781190/posts/34PYU79eUqP | |
| [09:38] <ogra_> so just get a pen then :P | |
| [09:39] <hrw> ogra_: any progres on teaching plymouth to check proper console=? | |
| [09:39] <ogra_> hrw, it isnt the console parameter at all :) | |
| [09:40] <hrw> or whatever | |
| [09:40] <ogra_> hrw, it is a missing piece of console-setup | |
| [09:40] <hrw> ogra_: tell me more | |
| [09:40] <ogra_> if you build your initrd with FRAMEBUFFER=1 set in the initramfs.conf, plymouth works fine | |
| [09:41] <hrw> I do not have initrd | |
| [09:41] <ogra_> i'm working on tracking it down to a specific function in console-setup, once i have that well just add it to the plymouth upstart job and it should work | |
| [09:41] <ogra_> we'll | |
| [09:41] <mjrosenb> hrw: the issue is I cannot currently boot into ubuntu | |
| [09:42] <ogra_> hrw, right, initrd doesnt matter its just that you can fix it by having an initrd that runs console-setup | |
| [09:42] <hrw> mjrosenb: tell me more? | |
| [09:42] <ogra_> which means running that console-setup bit from an upstart job before plymouth starts should work as well | |
| [09:43] <mjrosenb> hrw: I attempted to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 with the standard do-dist-upgrade, and now it plymouth just thros an assertion, and I cannot continue booting. | |
| [09:43] <hrw> mjrosenb: boot chromium, mount ubuntu, cd ubuntu/etc/init/;rm plymouth*;reboot | |
| [09:43] <hrw> works just fine | |
| [09:44] <ogra_> no, the biuts will re-appear on next update | |
| [09:44] <hrw> or s/rm plymouth*/for f in plymouth*;do echo manual > ${f}.override/ | |
| [09:44] <hrw> or s/rm plymouth*/for f in plymouth*;do echo manual > ${f}.override;done/ | |
| [09:44] <ogra_> drop the rm's | |
| [09:44] <mjrosenb> iirc, I can boot into chromium by just turning on the validation again? | |
| [09:44] <ogra_> yeah | |
| [09:45] <ogra_> the above looks fine | |
| [09:45] <hrw> mjrosenb: better is keep chromium kernel in KERN-A and boot ubuntu with KERN-B or KERN-C | |
| [09:45] <mjrosenb> *nod* | |
| [09:45] <hrw> so all you need is change of partition priorities | |
| [09:46] <hrw> works just fine | |
| [09:46] <mjrosenb> hrw: so I didn't touch the kernels, I just ran do-dist-upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| [09:46] <mjrosenb> err, maybe it wasn't do-dist-upgrade | |
| [09:46] <mjrosenb> do-release-upgrade? | |
| [09:46] <hrw> mjrosenb: do update to 13.04 | |
| [09:46] <mjrosenb> I tab-completed it | |
| [09:46] <ogra_> do-release-upgrade is the right tool | |
| [09:46] <mjrosenb> hrw: is support better in 13.04? | |
| [09:47] <ogra_> yes | |
| [09:47] <hrw> mjrosenb: s/better// | |
| [09:47] <ogra_> hrw, up0loads packages and fixes all the time :) | |
| [09:47] <hrw> 12.10 does not know anything about chromebook | |
| [09:47] <mjrosenb> hrw: does 12.04? | |
| [09:47] <hrw> you are joking or not? | |
| [09:48] <ogra_> the 12.04 that you can install with that weird script that downloads 50 tarballs will work | |
| [09:48] <ogra_> (since it is hacked up) | |
| [09:49] <mjrosenb> yeah, that is how I installed it to begin with. | |
| [09:50] <hrw> I used python to calculate offsets and did setup with linaro image | |
| [09:50] <hrw> that's why my chromebook may lack some packages | |
| [09:53] <hrw> I am waiting for 32GB microsd card to arrive so will have pristine ubuntu install on it | |
| [09:53] <hrw> unless courier would bring me another chromebook... | |
| [09:54] <hrw> but this will rather not happen | |
| [09:55] <mjrosenb> is there a microsd card reader other than the full-sized sdcard on the side? | |
| [09:57] <hrw> there are small usb readers | |
| [09:57] <hrw> which sticks out for 3mm from socket | |
| [09:58] <mjrosenb> ahh. I've seen those | |
| [09:58] <mjrosenb> this one that holds the microsd card so it will eject *into* the computer if you could theoretically eject it when it was inside the computer? | |
| [10:00] <hrw> no idea - order not arrived yet | |
| [10:02] <mjrosenb> this mount command is taking quite a while to complete... | |
| [10:04] <mjrosenb> aaand, ^C does not do anything on this terminal :/ | |
| [10:13] <mjrosenb> ok, problem solved | |
| [10:13] <mjrosenb> i assume I need to re-run |sudo cgpt add -i 6 -P 5 -S 1 /dev/mmcblk0| in order to get this machine to want to boot into ubuntu again? | |
| [10:20] <hrw> -T5 | |
| [10:21] <hrw> or -T1 at least | |
| [10:21] <mjrosenb> ok, this time, it finished the kernel initializations, then "mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" and is now hung there | |
| [10:21] <mjrosenb> what does that do? | |
| [10:22] <hrw> sets 'tries' field | |
| [10:22] <mjrosenb> oh, so it'll boot into ubuntu N times, then go back to cros? | |
| [10:23] <hrw> no, thats matter of priority field | |
| [10:24] <hrw> you have 3 fields: tries, priority, successful | |
| [10:24] <hrw> priority == which kernel boot first and which if first one fail | |
| [10:24] <hrw> successful = this kernel boots at all | |
| [10:53] <ogra-cb> i think i'll go with something like the second one here http://tbreak.com/tech/2012/06/quick-look-apacer-32gb-usb-3-0-memory-sticks/ | |
| [10:54] <ogra-cb> the values arent stellar but still far beyond USB 2.0 | |
| [10:54] <ogra-cb> (for the chromebook rootfs) | |
| [10:56] <hrw> ogra-cb: nice :) | |
| [10:57] <ogra-cb> i havent found a place to buy it yet though | |
| [10:57] <hrw> http://www.shopmania.co.uk/external-memory/p-apacer-ah152-super-mini-usb-drives-16gb-48812413 but 16GB only | |
| [10:57] <ogra-cb> it is small enough to not turn into a lever that opens the netbook case if you press it :) | |
| [10:58] <hrw> I have to connect my usb3.0 harddrive and check speed | |
| [10:59] <ogra-cb> you should see between 80 and 120M/s | |
| [10:59] <ogra-cb> i personally think even 60 are awesome alreadfy though :) | |
| [11:00] <RaYmAn> ogra-cb: it's just a pity you can't use usb 3.0 to boot kernel from :( | |
| [11:00] <ogra-cb> i dont care | |
| [11:01] <ogra-cb> as long as my rootfs runs off a fast device | |
| [11:01] <ogra-cb> and as long as i *can* boot a kernel somehow :) | |
| === hrww is now known as hrw | |
| [11:31] <hrw> RaYmAn: you put kernel in KERN-C on internal and boot rootfs on usb3 - fine | |
| [11:36] <RaYmAn> sure | |
| [11:39] <hrw> internal emmc has 59 MB/s average read in gnome-disks bench | |
| [11:44] <hrw> ech. gnome-disks fails to bench my usb3 drive | |
| [11:44] <hrw> on chromebook | |
| [11:45] <ogra-cb> file a bug :) | |
| [11:45] <hrw> hdparm has 92MB/s | |
| [11:50] <hrw> Bug #1081019 already exists | |
| [11:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1081019 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Benchmark for Harddisk fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1081019 | |
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| [11:51] <hrw> same hdd connected to desktop has 147 MB/s average | |
| [11:56] <hrw> I miss "maximize to whole available desktop space" action in WM | |
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| [12:04] <ogra_> which WM ? | |
| [12:08] <hrw> kwin | |
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| [14:46] <fmoreau> hi. Does anybody know why ext4 fs is prefered over a "flash" fs such as ubifs ? | |
| [14:49] <suihkulokki> fmoreau: for a flash file system, such as ubifs, you need a raw interface to the flash. most device these days instead have a MMC interface where you can only put block filesystems, such as ext4 | |
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| [16:18] <sfeole> o/ | |
| [16:39] <ogra_> yippie ! | |
| [16:39] <ogra_> slideshow is back | |
| [16:41] <ogra_> xnox, hmm, so that onboard behavior is really bad in oem-config since the switch to compiz | |
| [16:41] <ogra_> i actually have to reboot to make typing work | |
| [16:43] <ogra_> plars, janimo, so i dont get why you need adbd instead of just using ssh over usbnet | |
| [16:44] <janimo> ogra_, no idea if usbnet works I never used it | |
| [16:44] <ogra_> it does | |
| [16:44] <ogra_> pretty agressively even :) | |
| [16:44] <janimo> ogra_, if the current kernel needs some patch or config options enabled feel free to ping the kernel team :) | |
| [16:45] <janimo> if not then a wiki entry would be nice | |
| [16:45] * ogra_ accidentially built it in into one of his test kernels ... made my desktop NM go crazy :) | |
| [16:45] <janimo> I never used this feature | |
| [16:45] <janimo> it should not interfere with normal work though and not be buggy :) | |
| [16:45] <plars> ogra_: same, never tried usbnet. If you have some pointers I'd like to hear more about it though. adb is nice from the perspective of being a similar tool for what a lot of people would have normally used there, and has some neat features, but I'm not really stuck on it | |
| [16:45] <ogra_> it doesnt | |
| [16:46] <ogra_> but NM shows you it tries to auto establish the network (it only shows you a wired connection) | |
| [16:46] <plars> ogra_: will usbnet have issues since the n7 might be on a server, potentially with several other n7's attached doing the same thing? | |
| [16:46] <ogra_> it just took me quite aq while to find out that this behavior comes from the attched nexus (which didnt have the NIC up ) | |
| [16:47] <ogra_> plars, usbnet just behaves like any other network | |
| [16:47] <plars> ogra_: So I'd need to be able to bring up those connections and distinguish between them | |
| [16:47] <ogra_> just that your device is called usb0 and that the wire is actually a usb connection to the next machine | |
| [16:48] <plars> ogra_, janimo: so it sounds like we just need a kernel with it turned on, and give it a try | |
| [16:48] <ogra_> right | |
| [16:48] <janimo> ogra_, and it shows up depending on whether you connect the nexus to a laptop or not? | |
| [16:48] <ogra_> i simply assume you want to issue more than just a reboot via ssh | |
| [16:49] <ogra_> janimo, plugging in the USB connection with usbnet *buioltin* will always try to bring up usb0 (and the desktop/laptop side for it) | |
| [16:49] <ogra_> indeed you shouldnt build it in :) | |
| [16:49] <ogra_> but load it on demand as module | |
| [16:49] <plars> ogra_: I don't actually have NM running on the ubuntu-server they are attached to currently | |
| [16:50] <ogra_> well, you want to attach more of them | |
| [16:50] <ogra_> i would actually runs something like dnsmasq | |
| [16:50] <ogra_> so you can hand out IPs to them via dhcp | |
| [16:50] <ogra_> and preseed usb0 properly for that | |
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| [17:26] <xnox> ogra_: why does a reboot help after flashing in oem-config? a reboot is still treated as first boot if oem-config is not completed? | |
| [17:26] <xnox> ogra_: is it a problem with fastboot reboot then? | |
| [17:42] <ogra-cb> xnox, nope. rather with some ubiquity-dm race or onboard | |
| [17:43] <ogra-cb> and yes, oem-config-remove is run last, it removed ubiquity-dm ... as long as that didnt run you will always end up in oem-config on next boot | |
| [17:43] <ogra-cb> *removes | |
| [17:44] <xnox> ogra-cb: right so if I reboot a few times sometimes onboard is fine and sometimes it isn't? but doesn't ubiquity launch onboard anyway ... | |
| [17:45] * xnox will have to play with it. | |
| [17:45] <ogra-cb> err no | |
| [17:45] <ogra-cb> if you reboot onboard will always work fine | |
| [17:45] <ogra-cb> it just doesnt if it boots through from the tarball installer | |
| [17:46] <ogra-cb> i could add another reboot to the process but imho we already have to many (especially with the one we will need for the hostname later) | |
| [17:56] <plars> janimo: so from what I'm reading, it looks like it's could just be CONFIG_USB_ETH that we need to turn on? | |
| [17:57] <janimo> plars, ogra-cb should know as he had a kernel with that enabled. I am not certain what other (if any) options are required | |
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| [21:03] <mjrosenb> hrw: ping | |
| [21:12] <mjrosenb> unrelatedy, if I don't want oneconf or update-manager running, what is the right way to turn them off? | |
| [21:59] <mjrosenb> ok, so I'm going to assume that the best way forward at this point is to just go through the chrubuntu setup again, since all of the data I care about is on an external sdcard | |
| === Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 | |
| [22:35] <hrw> mjrosenb: pong | |
| [22:36] <mjrosenb> hrw: should I try to get 12.10 working, or should I just give up, re-install from the crazy tarball-downloading script, then try to update directly to 13.04? | |
| [22:41] <hrw> mjrosenb: I suggest skipping 12.10 | |
| [22:41] <mjrosenb> well, the plann was to get 12.10 booting, then immediately upgrade to 13.04 | |
| [22:48] <hrw> mjrosenb: make a backup, upgrade to 13.04 directly. if fail - restore backup | |
| [22:55] <mjrosenb> hrw: that shouldn't be too hard, the partitions are small enough that I can dd them both onto an external sd card. | |
| [23:21] <philhug> is anyone familiar with the rockchip rk3066 devices? e.g. those chinese hdmi sticks like MK808? | |
| [23:23] <philhug> and does anyone have a complete kernel source? the chinese manufacturers don't seem to care much about the GPL. | |