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| [04:30] <BigWhale> Good morning all. | |
| [04:57] <pitti> Bonjour | |
| [06:44] <didrocks> good morning | |
| [07:09] <pitti> bonjour didrocks, ça va? as-tu eu un bon week-end? | |
| [07:10] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti. Bon week-end, you! jdll à Lyon, donc beaucoup de discussions libristes. Seb, vincent, fredp étaient là. | |
| [07:10] <didrocks> et toi? | |
| [07:11] <pitti> oh, un week-end de conférence | |
| [07:11] <pitti> didrocks: mon femme et moi sommes allés à un hotel wellness | |
| [07:12] <pitti> nous avons eu un temps ensoleillé | |
| [07:12] <didrocks> pitti: relaxant et reposant donc? | |
| [07:12] <pitti> so we enjoyed some hiking, sauna, a massage, and a suite with a whirlpool :) | |
| [07:13] <pitti> didrocks: en effet! | |
| [07:13] <didrocks> nice ;) | |
| [07:13] <pitti> didrocks: c'était une surprise | |
| [07:14] <pitti> I picked her up at work on Friday, she didn't know anything beforea | |
| [07:15] <didrocks> pitti: bien joué ;) | |
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| [09:00] <Laney> ahoy hoy | |
| [09:01] <didrocks> hey Laney, how are you? | |
| [09:02] <Laney> hey didrocks - not bad thanks! | |
| [09:02] * Laney just google translated the previous conversation ;-) | |
| [09:02] <Laney> -1 to this default language switch :P | |
| [09:05] <didrocks> :) | |
| [09:15] <seb128> hey desktopers | |
| [09:16] <didrocks> salut seb128 | |
| [09:17] <seb128> didrocks, lut ;-) | |
| [09:24] <mlankhorst> oui! | |
| [09:24] <mlankhorst> Laney: oui pour langue français officiêl! | |
| [09:25] <mlankhorst> Hope I didn't butcher that too much. :-) | |
| [09:36] <didrocks> seb128: do you have the push to reveal launcher broken? | |
| [09:37] <seb128> mlankhorst, hey ;-) | |
| [09:37] <seb128> didrocks, no, but I didn't upgrade today yet | |
| [09:40] <didrocks> jibel told me he's seeing this on ati, intel, and I can reproduce | |
| [09:40] <didrocks> I wonder if the xorg update is the culpurit | |
| [09:40] <Laney> ppa unity or archive? | |
| [09:40] <didrocks> archive | |
| [09:40] <Laney> let me try then, just dist-upgraded | |
| [09:41] <Laney> yeah, got it | |
| [09:41] <didrocks> thanks for confirming Laney | |
| [09:41] <Laney> on the left monitor only, the barrier between screens works and reveals it | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> still the main use case :) | |
| [09:42] <Laney> nvidia | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> ok, we got all covered | |
| [09:42] <didrocks> intel, ati, nvidia | |
| [09:43] <didrocks> bryce: FYI ^ Can you please have a look at it and we should really have the unity tests running before pushing the xorg packages? (if xorg is really the culpurit here, which seems really likely) | |
| [09:46] <Laney> wow | |
| [09:46] <Laney> bug #1073724 | |
| [09:46] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1073724 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Pointer barriers have gaps along the edge of the screen" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1073724 | |
| [09:46] <Laney> known to break stuff ... ? | |
| [09:49] <Laney> mlankhorst: ^- should we revert this patch? | |
| [09:51] <seb128> seems like we should yes | |
| [09:52] <didrocks> I agree | |
| [09:52] <seb128> pitti, hey, so this udisk bug ... seems like it's users of old fs formats | |
| [09:52] <pitti> bonjour seb128 | |
| [09:52] <pitti> seb128: not quite -- we have ACLs enabled for ext2 and ext3 | |
| [09:52] <seb128> oh ok | |
| [09:54] <tjaalton> I'll revert it | |
| [09:54] <pitti> seb128: I'll ask for getting ssh access | |
| [09:54] <seb128> pitti, ok | |
| [09:54] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks | |
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| [10:03] <mlankhorst> Laney: ok I'll revert it | |
| [10:03] <Laney> mlankhorst: tjaalton just said he would | |
| [10:04] <mlankhorst> at least saves sru paperwork for that patch :) | |
| [10:07] <tjaalton> mlankhorst: yeah I'm on it | |
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| [13:22] <desrt> good morning, folks | |
| [13:23] <attente_zzz> g'morning | |
| === attente_zzz is now known as attente | |
| [13:28] <larsu> desrt, attente, good morning! | |
| [13:28] <attente> larsu hi! | |
| [13:30] <desrt> productive weekend? | |
| [13:31] <larsu> unfortunately not, I was a bit sick. (You're asking about GActionMuxer again, aren't you?) | |
| [13:32] <desrt> larsu: hey. i just remembered GActionMuxer. how's that coming? | |
| [13:32] <larsu> lol. Jut as well as GSettings list I imagine | |
| [13:32] <larsu> s/Jut/Just | |
| [13:33] * desrt slayed a whole load of paperwork this weekend | |
| [13:34] <larsu> sounds like fun! | |
| [13:42] <cyphermox> good mornign! | |
| [13:42] <desrt> cyphermox: word up | |
| [13:43] <cyphermox> desrt: yo | |
| [13:43] <larsu> hi cyphermox | |
| [13:43] <cyphermox> is it some kind of holiday in europe? :) | |
| [13:43] <larsu> not that I know of, but it does seem really quiet in here | |
| [13:43] <cyphermox> yeah | |
| [13:43] * desrt laments the lack of general-purpose 'european jokes' | |
| [13:44] <cyphermox> desrt: make them up | |
| [13:44] <desrt> (or maybe negative stereotypes is what i'm going for) | |
| [13:44] <cyphermox> register them in the big joke registry | |
| [13:44] <larsu> not enough stereotypes about europeans? You must be joking... | |
| [13:44] <desrt> cyphermox: hahaha i bet those europeans are celebrating SOCIALIST HEALTHCARE DAY | |
| [13:44] <desrt> losers | |
| [13:44] <desrt> hey wait.... that doesn't work :/ | |
| [13:44] <cyphermox> :) | |
| [13:44] <cyphermox> yeah, we'd be celebrating too | |
| [13:46] <desrt> (lol) http://www.businessinsider.com/stereotypes-in-europe-chart-goes-viral-2012-5 | |
| [13:46] <larsu> haha | |
| [13:47] * larsu wonders about the least corrupt thing, given that the last German president needed to step down because of corruption charges... | |
| [13:49] <sbte> pitti, are you there? | |
| [13:49] <pitti> hello sbte | |
| [13:49] <sbte> pitti, hi | |
| [13:50] <sbte> is there anything I can do to help fix this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject/+bug/1050358 | |
| [13:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1050358 in emesene (Ubuntu) "emesene crashed with SIGSEGV in tupledealloc.24592()" [Critical,Confirmed] | |
| [13:51] <pitti> sbte: nobody maintains the old static bindings any more, I'm afraid; I guess you need to track it down yourself | |
| [13:52] <sbte> pitti, it's also in pygobject | |
| [13:52] <sbte> the exact same bug | |
| [13:53] <pitti> so, for the pygobject developers it would certainly be helpful to reduce the crash to a small reproducer | |
| [13:53] <pitti> which doesn't involve creating an MSN account, installing emesene, debuggin the old static bindings, etc. | |
| [14:09] <rvr_> chrisccoulson: When is Firefox 17 going to be released in Quantal? | |
| [14:18] <pitti> meh, google online accounts is unnerving; it seems to time out twice a day | |
| [14:18] <pitti> kenvandine: ^ is that known? | |
| [14:18] <pitti> I almost always have to re-sign in now | |
| [14:18] <kenvandine> ugh | |
| [14:18] <kenvandine> that hasn't happened to me in a while | |
| [14:19] <kenvandine> pitti, did you add that accounts before like beta2? | |
| [14:19] <pitti> kenvandine: very plausible | |
| [14:19] <kenvandine> try removing them and adding again | |
| [14:19] <kenvandine> that bug was fixed | |
| [14:19] <pitti> but it was rather quiet for some months, it just started nagging again today | |
| [14:19] <pitti> kenvandine: ok, will try | |
| [14:19] <kenvandine> and... i think part of it was to store something different | |
| [14:19] <kenvandine> humm... could be a sign of something changing on google's side too | |
| [14:20] <pitti> I'll try to remove/re-add jabber as well; empathy keeps showing an error on opening | |
| [14:21] <pitti> kenvandine: thanks; I'll try that for a bit | |
| [14:21] <kenvandine> thx | |
| [14:21] <kenvandine> let me know how it goes | |
| [14:33] <kenvandine> great to see some gstreamer 1.0 packages in my morning dist-upgrade :) | |
| [14:35] <seb128> kenvandine, using the ppa? | |
| [14:36] <kenvandine> oh... maybe i am :) | |
| [14:38] <desrt> lovely | |
| [14:38] <desrt> in 20 minutes they're going to turn off power to the building | |
| [14:38] <seb128> desrt, time to go work in a coffee shop? ;-) | |
| [14:38] <pitti> hey desrt, how are you? | |
| [14:38] <desrt> pitti: peachy | |
| [14:38] <seb128> desrt, hey btw | |
| [14:38] <desrt> seb128: hi :) | |
| [14:39] <desrt> seb128: meh. i have my solar power system and 3G connection :) | |
| [14:39] <ogra_> oh, when was evolution-indicator dropped ? | |
| [14:39] * ogra_ just tried to install it in raring, seems its gone | |
| [14:40] <jbicha> ogra_: quantal, it needs someone to port it | |
| [14:40] <ogra_> ah, k | |
| [14:40] <seb128> ogra_, cyphermox will reupload it soon, we got a contributor who did the porting work | |
| [14:41] <seb128> ogra_, seems to be working fine | |
| [14:41] <seb128> jbicha, hey | |
| [14:41] <jbicha> seb128: howdy | |
| [14:41] <cyphermox> yes yes, I was just finishing up today, the patch is upstream now | |
| [14:41] <cyphermox> ogra_: ^ | |
| [14:41] <ogra_> seb128, awesome ! | |
| [14:41] <seb128> jbicha, how are you? do you know what's the status of the new ibus/g-s-d/g-c-c stack? | |
| [14:42] <didrocks> seb128: I'm sure it's an excuse from desrt to work from the airport :p | |
| [14:42] <jbicha> seb128: mterry was working on the appearance panel last week, and I don't know if anyone's started on the ibus indicator or keyboard indicator work | |
| [14:43] <desrt> didrocks: how did you know?! | |
| [14:43] <didrocks> \o/ | |
| [14:44] <jbicha> personally I' | |
| [14:44] <seb128> jbicha, I checked out the vcs to play with that in the train the other day and the g-c-c packaging in the vcs is all broken, like patches don't apply, etc | |
| [14:44] <seb128> jbicha, how did you get it to build at all in the ppa? do you have work you didn't commit? | |
| [14:47] <jbicha> seb128: g-c-c builds fine here against raring w/ the desktop ppa | |
| [14:48] <jbicha> (I have to log out for 15 min) | |
| [14:48] <seb128> jbicha, lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-control-center/ubuntu patches don't apply though, weird | |
| [14:48] <seb128> jbicha, or do you use another Vcs? | |
| [14:48] <seb128> jbicha, ok, ttyl | |
| [14:50] <seb128> jbicha, hum, ignore that, you did updates since I checked out the Vcs before travelling last week | |
| [14:51] <seb128> ok, I'm out for some exercice, be back in ~1h | |
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| [15:10] <Sweetshark> bdrung: that for that magic sync of libcdr! ;) | |
| [15:11] <bdrung> "that for that"? | |
| [15:12] <Sweetshark> bdrung: ups s/that for that/thanks for that/ | |
| [15:12] <bdrung> you're welcome | |
| [15:12] * Sweetshark slaps his fumble fingers. | |
| [15:14] <Sweetshark> bdrung: I expected having to take care of those myself and filed the bugs most as notes to self. so it was a pleasant surprise to find one of them in 'fix released' ;) | |
| [15:15] <bdrung> Sweetshark: the sync request appeared on the sponsoring queue. :) | |
| [15:21] <Sweetshark> seb128: any good idea on how to handle bug 1079653 and bug 1079665 (both not yet in experiemental in that version, only in an older one) | |
| [15:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079653 in libcmis (Ubuntu) "please sync a libcmis version > 0.3.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079653 | |
| [15:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079665 in mdds (Ubuntu) "please sync a mdds version > 0.6.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079665 | |
| [15:22] <Sweetshark> seb128: and bug 1079656 and bug 1079659 (both already created as packages by rene but not yet in experimental) | |
| [15:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079656 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] please sync a liblangtag version > 0.4.0 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079656 | |
| [15:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1079659 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging] please sync a libmspub version > 0.0.3 to raring as it is needed for libreoffice 4.0" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079659 | |
| [15:23] <Sweetshark> it would be nice to have those in raring even if they are not in experimental by FF, I guess. | |
| [15:41] <cyphermox> ogra_: waiting for a few more small fixes from the contributor. If you want I can upload this in its current state to a PPA | |
| [15:47] <seb128> Sweetshark, hey, just take the vcs code and get it sponsored? | |
| [16:08] <bcurtiswx> j/w since a majority of work in previous cycles has gone into staying with GNOME, and this cycle we're sticking with what we have. Is there a area on the Desktop team that will get more focus now? | |
| [16:10] <seb128> bcurtiswx, it's mostly "stop using GNOME fallback code for unity since GNOME will drop that in 3.8" and "improve performances of Ubuntu so it runs better on devices" | |
| [16:10] <bcurtiswx> seb128, great thx. and hi :) | |
| [16:10] <seb128> bcurtiswx, with continued efforts on improving our testing and quality | |
| [16:10] <seb128> bcurtiswx, hey | |
| [16:12] <bcurtiswx> seb128, how well do you know the plans for the nexus 7 ? | |
| [16:12] <seb128> well enough, there is nothing too specific or no real "plan" | |
| [16:12] <seb128> we have a bunch of blueprints with workitems | |
| [16:13] <seb128> but it's basically "chase stuff that are eating cpu and/or using memory and improve them" | |
| [16:13] <bcurtiswx> is it going to be its own package set, or everything is going into Ubuntu this cycle ? | |
| [16:13] <seb128> we identified some targets already | |
| [16:13] <seb128> like "don't make run services all the time if not needed" | |
| [16:14] <seb128> there is no plan to do anything specific out of Ubuntu | |
| [16:14] <seb128> it's all optimization work that will benefit laptops, etc as well | |
| [16:14] <seb128> we will just have some tweaks on kernel, drivers, and maybe some gsettings key values | |
| [16:15] <bcurtiswx> seb128, OK. I ask because I was given a nexus 7 to use towards this work, so beyond the wiki page of info I was trying to find out more. | |
| [16:15] <seb128> oh, great | |
| [16:15] <seb128> ogra_, ^ do you have pointers or extra documentation? | |
| [16:37] <Sweetshark> seb128: k. well, will make it a 0ubuntu1 then as rene might tweak them still. (I see rene next weekend anyway at the Munich Hackfest, maybe I get him to upload to experimental anyway.) | |
| [16:39] <seb128> Sweetshark, yeah, take something under -1 | |
| [16:40] <seb128> Sweetshark, you can do -1~ubuntu or something | |
| [16:40] <seb128> or -0ubuntu1 works as well | |
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| [17:43] <seb128> does anyone know how to use ibus there? | |
| [17:44] <seb128> not how to set up an input method, but how to e.g enter chinese glyphs | |
| [17:44] <seb128> like there is some sort of completion list popup that is used ... how is that one working, how does one trigger it? | |
| [17:49] <attente> seb128: a bit | |
| [17:50] <attente> let's see if i can remember... | |
| [17:50] <attente> oh right | |
| [17:51] <attente> i just hit Ctrl+Space and it seems to switch | |
| [17:51] <attente> 你好 | |
| [17:51] <seb128> attente, right, I can enter some chinese glyphs but I don't see the popdown ui which has options | |
| [17:51] <attente> popdown ui? | |
| [17:51] <robru> attente, cool, I can see those glyphs correctly in IRC. I wouldn't have expected that ;-) | |
| [17:52] <seb128> attente, http://cdn.alternativeto.net/s/86d591b8-bc93-e011-9798-0025902c7e73_1_full.png | |
| [17:53] <seb128> attente, that popup ui | |
| [17:53] <seb128> attente, or http://desktopi18n.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/gnome-shell-ibus-lookup-window-20120216.png (shell version) | |
| [17:54] <attente> seb128: it doesn't appear for you when you switch to Chinese? | |
| [17:55] <attente> i see it as soon as i start typing | |
| [17:55] <seb128> attente, no, I can | |
| [17:55] <seb128> ㄊ | |
| [17:55] <seb128> ㄐ吃姿 | |
| [17:56] <attente> you can type, but it the popup doesn't appear? | |
| [17:56] <seb128> right | |
| [17:56] <attente> weird... | |
| [17:56] <seb128> what desktop do you use? | |
| [17:56] <attente> unity | |
| [17:56] <seb128> ok | |
| [17:56] <seb128> well in fact I'm testing the ibus 1.5 update and g-s-d 3.6 from the desktop ppa | |
| [17:56] <seb128> so maybe it's buggy | |
| [17:56] <attente> can you try ibus-setup? | |
| [17:56] <seb128> I need to go back to 1.4 to see how it was working | |
| [17:57] <jbicha> seb128: you logged out of Unity and logged back in first, right? | |
| [17:57] <seb128> jbicha, yes, I've that installed for 5 days, I rebooted a bunch of times | |
| [17:57] <attente> seb128: what do you see under the Input Method tab of ibus-setup? | |
| [17:58] <seb128> attente, chewing | |
| [17:58] <seb128> chinese - chewing | |
| [17:59] <attente> oh. weird | |
| [17:59] <seb128> well, I added that one | |
| [17:59] <seb128> there was nothing listed by default | |
| [17:59] <attente> ok | |
| [17:59] <attente> but even then i don't see that method available to add | |
| [17:59] <attente> but it could be traditional v. simplified | |
| [18:00] <jbicha> seb128: try Chinese -pinyin | |
| [18:00] <attente> robru: hi! | |
| [18:00] <robru> attente, hey dude | |
| [18:01] <robru> attente, thanks again for everything. how's it going? | |
| [18:01] <seb128> robru, hey, how do you feel this week? better | |
| [18:01] <robru> seb128, yeah, nose is still stuffy but I'm generally more clear-headed, yeah. thanks | |
| [18:01] <attente> robru: moved yet? ;) | |
| [18:02] <robru> attente, two weeks! | |
| [18:02] <robru> attente, this is my last week of work, then I took the next week off for packing/moving, then Nov 30th I arrive at the hostel in Victoria to begin looking for an apartment ;-) | |
| [18:03] <attente> robru: ah, guess you'll be missing Winnipeg :) | |
| [18:03] <robru> attente, not even slightly ;-) | |
| [18:03] <jbicha> seb128: chewing doesn't seem to do the pop-down; I don't know if it used to or not but pinyin works fine here in Unity or GNOME Shell | |
| [18:03] <seb128> jbicha, attente: thanks, indeed pinyin works | |
| [18:04] <seb128> damn chewing :p | |
| [18:04] <attente> speaking of chewing :) | |
| [18:04] <jbicha> attente: lunch time? | |
| [18:04] <seb128> attente, lunch time! ;-) | |
| [18:04] <attente> jbicha, seb128 correct! | |
| [18:04] <attente> :) | |
| [18:04] <seb128> enjoy! | |
| [18:07] <seb128> jbicha, so, what bugs/feature is missing in the g-c-c 3.6 stack for you out of ibus indicator, keyboard indicator and the new appareance capplet that mterry just landed? | |
| [18:07] <seb128> jbicha, just trying to figure what is remaining to do, I would like to land it this week, we can live without the keyboard indicator for a bit | |
| [18:09] <jbicha> 50_ubuntu_systemwide_proxy.patch needs to be rewritten | |
| [18:10] <jbicha> we need to decide whether to rewrite or drop 60_ubuntu_nav_bar.patch | |
| [18:11] <seb128> jbicha, I will have a look to 60_ubuntu_nav but dropping should be fine | |
| [18:11] <seb128> is upstream doing anythink for the proxy? they don't have a way to set a default one? | |
| [18:12] <jbicha> for g-s-d 3.6.3, 90_set_gmenus_xsettings.patch needs refreshing/rewriting | |
| [18:16] <jbicha> seb128: I don't use a proxy but I believe our patch simply allows setting a proxy for all users | |
| [18:17] <seb128> jbicha, ok | |
| [18:17] <seb128> will look at the xsetting one | |
| [18:17] <seb128> jbicha, hum, it seems like we could probably get something upstream for the proxy stuff, I guess that would be useful on other distros as well | |
| [18:20] <jbicha> seb128: yes, their proxy panel is a bit incomplete; GNOME's region & language panel allows setting a system language so there is some precedent for that type of feature | |
| [23:03] <robru> can anybody point me at some documentation explaining the differences between compat 8 and compat 9 in debhelper? | |
| [23:03] <Laney> robru: see the debhelper manpage | |
| [23:03] <Laney> that's the best place for such info | |
| [23:03] <robru> Laney, ah, thanks | |
| [23:04] <robru> was looking for a wiki or something, hadn't thought of man | |
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