| [05:06] <mikhas> Riddell, can we finally get this into KUbuntu/KDE properly: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=265452#c21 -- with all the dependencies packaged, too, so that Kyle can finally enjoy predictive text? | |
| [05:06] <ubottu> KDE bug 265452 in widget-misc "onscreen keyboard with word completion feature" [Wishlist,New] | |
| [05:06] <mikhas> shadeslayer, ^ | |
| [05:08] <shadeslayer> mikhas: looking | |
| [05:11] <shadeslayer> mikhas: iirc Quintasan was looking into maliit | |
| [05:11] <mikhas> right | |
| [05:11] <mikhas> but I never know what the status is | |
| [05:11] <mikhas> because 1. no one updates the bug report, 2. I have no time to do it myself | |
| [05:12] <mikhas> (3. I lack the Plasma/KDE specific knowledge for proper integration anyway.) | |
| [05:25] <shadeslayer> hm, afaik he did have some updates, but will be away this week because he is moving | |
| [05:25] <shadeslayer> I'll remind him to update the bug report | |
| [05:27] <shadeslayer> mikhas: emailed him to update the bug report | |
| [05:29] <mikhas> thanks! | |
| [05:43] <jussi> shadeslayer: oh shadeslayer, where art thou!!? | |
| [05:44] * jussi coughs in shadeslayer's general direction with https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=307302 | |
| [05:44] <ubottu> KDE bug 307302 in contactlist "KTP crashed after attempting to edit a wrongly configured account" [Crash,Unconfirmed] | |
| [05:44] <jussi> shadeslayer: I m able to repeat that bug with no issues. | |
| [05:45] <jussi> happens everytime | |
| [06:02] <shadeslayer> jussi: heh, I was playing with my really old laptop and my TV :P | |
| [06:02] <jussi> shadeslayer: not acceptable, you need to respond to me withing 30 secconds :P :P | |
| [06:02] <shadeslayer> saw your mail on the telly | |
| [06:02] <shadeslayer> was going through the bt, but the font is a wee bit small | |
| [06:03] <jussi> lol | |
| [06:04] <shadeslayer> otoh reading planet.kde.org and planet.ubuntu.com is such a pleasure | |
| [06:12] <shadeslayer> jussi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9p32xopiqmzta5o/IMAG0330.jpg | |
| [06:12] <shadeslayer> text is blurry in that pic though | |
| [06:13] <jussi> :D | |
| [06:14] <shadeslayer> mikhas: the onscreen keyboard on W7 is amazing :O | |
| [06:20] <jussi> shadeslayer: picture? | |
| [06:21] <shadeslayer> sec | |
| [06:22] <shadeslayer> jussi: I can't reproduce your crash | |
| [06:23] <shadeslayer> atleast not on 0.5 | |
| [06:23] <mikhas> shadeslayer, it is | |
| [06:23] <jussi> shadeslayer: you fail | |
| [06:23] <jussi> shadeslayer: I can reproduce everytime | |
| [06:23] <shadeslayer> :P | |
| [06:23] <shadeslayer> jussi: https://www.dropbox.com/s/655z817nnzut1m4/IMAG0331.jpg | |
| [06:24] <soee> hi | |
| [06:24] <jussi> hi soee | |
| [06:24] <soee> software-center ubuntu-desktop - can i remove safely this ? | |
| [06:44] <skreech__> soee: I guess | |
| [06:59] <soee> shadeslayer, | |
| [06:59] <soee> upgrade 12.04 => 12.10 | |
| [06:59] <soee> Could not install 'libjbig0' | |
| [06:59] <soee> The upgrade will continue but the 'libjbig0' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it. | |
| [07:00] <soee> how important is this package ? | |
| [07:08] <soee> same with libtiff5 | |
| [09:20] <Riddell> soee: how did you upgrade? | |
| [09:20] <soee> Riddell, followin the website instructions | |
| [09:21] <soee> abyway looks liek apt-get -f install after upgrade solved the problem | |
| [09:21] <soee> it install them with :i386 | |
| [09:25] <Riddell> those libraries are being transitioned to new versions, I guess that's not complete yet | |
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| [09:25] <Riddell> but it'll need to be for this week's beta for sure | |
| [09:25] <Riddell> morning Mamarok | |
| [09:25] <Mamarok> morning Riddell :) | |
| [09:25] <Mamarok> greets from Randa | |
| [09:26] <Riddell> Mamarok: legs good enough to travel on? | |
| [09:26] <Mamarok> yes, since quite some time, this is 3 months now already | |
| [09:26] <Riddell> excellent | |
| [09:27] <Mamarok> only thing that will bother me for another year or so is going downstairs, can't do the movement right because of the nuts and bolts inside the leg | |
| [09:27] <Tm_Tr> Mamarok: good to hear you're getting better (: | |
| [09:28] <Mamarok> Tm_Tr: thanks :) | |
| [09:51] <Tm_T> Mamarok: going to UDS? | |
| [09:51] <Mamarok> Tm_T: no, as I didn't get sponsored | |
| [09:51] <Tm_T> Mamarok: not even Kubuntu-sponsored? | |
| [09:52] <Mamarok> Tm_T: I didn't make a request for that as I think the money is better spend on developers | |
| [09:53] <Tm_T> roger | |
| [10:25] <mah454> Hello | |
| [10:26] <mah454> KDE have delay login sound ! | |
| [10:26] <mah454> i must wait for some second (10 - 15 S) for hear KDE login Sound ! | |
| [10:26] <mah454> How can fix this problem ? | |
| [10:32] <Riddell> mah454: #kubuntu for questions generally | |
| [10:33] <mah454> Riddell: do not answer to my Question ! :( | |
| [10:39] <valorie> mah454: this channel isn't for user support, sorry | |
| [10:40] <mah454> ok | |
| [12:44] <BluesKaj> HIyas all | |
| [12:50] * Darkwing waves | |
| [12:51] <Riddell> Darkwing: I don't support you remember how to generate the .pot files for kubuntu-docs? | |
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| [13:29] <Darkwing> I wrote a script for it... | |
| [13:29] <Darkwing> it sould be in /scripts | |
| [13:30] <Darkwing> kubuntu-docs/scripts | |
| [13:30] <Darkwing> Riddell: ^^ | |
| [13:31] <Riddell> yep, got it | |
| [13:34] <Darkwing> Sorry, I'm back on mobile for a couple weeks. | |
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| [13:41] <ScottK> Anyone have an opinion if these symbol changes are problematic? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/116989540/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-amd64.libdbusmenu-qt_0.9.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | |
| [13:50] <debfx> ScottK: they are harmless | |
| [13:50] <ScottK> debfx: Thanks. | |
| [13:51] <debfx> qt3 removal is only blocked by inguma and lsb :) | |
| [13:51] <ScottK> lsb got uploaded though, right? | |
| [13:52] <ScottK> And inguma's a removal? | |
| [13:53] <debfx> nope, lsd-desktop still depends on qt3 | |
| [13:53] <debfx> we should probably file a RM bug for inguma in Debian | |
| [13:57] <Riddell> dpm: here's the kubuntu docs as they stand including the .pot files starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-docs_12.10.1.tar.gz | |
| [13:57] <Riddell> dpm: are you able to take the .pot files and get them into launchpad? | |
| [13:57] <Riddell> or is there another layout I should be giving them to you? | |
| [14:05] <dpm> Riddell, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1224552/ | |
| [14:05] <dpm> can't seem to be able to download it | |
| [14:06] <Riddell> dpm: try now | |
| [14:07] <dpm> Riddell, I can open it now, but I can't find the .pot files | |
| [14:07] <Riddell> dpm: e.g. kubuntu-docs-12.10.1/docs/hardware/po/kubuntu-docs-hardware.pot ? | |
| [14:07] <dpm> actually, I can find them, but I've got a question: | |
| [14:09] <Riddell> what's that? | |
| [14:10] <dpm> sorry, just a sec, I'm looking at the current 12.04 templates in LP | |
| [14:12] <dpm> Riddell, so the templates in the tarball seem to match what's on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/kubuntu-docs (I haven't checked them all, though). So I think the layout is fine. So the questions I've got are only: why do we need to upload them manually (i.e. would an upload to precise-proposed not do?)? Why do we need a .1 update of the templates? | |
| [14:13] <Riddell> dpm: kubuntu-docs is now in universe so I don't think it'll appear automatically in launchpad after an upload | |
| [14:14] <Riddell> dpm: the .1 is just the version number for the first upload, it's not an update | |
| [14:14] <dpm> Riddell, ah, sorry, I was reading 12.04.1, my fault | |
| [14:14] <dpm> all clear now | |
| [14:17] <dpm> Riddell, we've got a feature to enable universe translations for selected packages in LP. You can simply add the changes required to the package (scroll to the bottom of the page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Universe_Translations_in_LP) and do the upload. Then LP will take care of importing the .pot files. You can have a look at banshee and gnome-panel for packages where we've enabled this feature | |
| [14:17] <Riddell> dpm: oh interesting | |
| [14:18] <dpm> Riddell, a caveat: bug 1048556 - but I don't think it affects the docs packages, as the translations need to be fetched manually from LP as usual, and are not shipped in the language packs | |
| [14:18] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048556 in Launchpad itself "Language pack translations export needs to add universe packages to domain map" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048556 | |
| [14:20] <Riddell> dpm: ok I'll just do that | |
| [14:20] <dpm> cool | |
| [14:20] <dpm> Riddell, let me know when you've done the upload, so that I can accept the templates the first time round in the translations imports queue | |
| [14:28] <ScottK> debfx: Sorry. I was confused. I was mis-remembering the alsa-tools upload as lsb. | |
| [14:51] <xnox> ScottK: alsa-tools accepted by cjwatson. No lsb upload as far as I can see. | |
| [14:52] <xnox> And please cherry-pick a patch from debian to drop qt3 depends in lsb, instead of removing it. | |
| [14:52] * xnox is not familiar with lsb package at all... maybe ask on #ubuntu-devel ?! | |
| [14:55] <Riddell> it's not an upstream source, it's mostly a meta package, not something that can be patched as such | |
| [14:55] <Riddell> dpm_: uploaded | |
| [14:57] <dpm_> Riddell, thanks, I'll keep an eye on the imports queue and accept them when I see them | |
| [14:58] <Riddell> oh it'll be in unapproved so I don't know when that'll be | |
| [15:11] <ScottK> debfx: If you want to go ahead and fix the inguma Recommends in Ubuntu, please do so. Waiting on Debian is probably pointless. | |
| [15:11] <ScottK> Removed scim-bridge. | |
| [15:37] <ScottK> Upload done for libdbusmenu-qt FTBFS. | |
| [15:58] <debfx> ScottK: well the fix would be package removal | |
| [15:59] <ScottK> debfx: Oh. I'll do that then, but I thought it just recommended Qt3. Is that wrong? | |
| [16:05] <ScottK> Meh. Doing. | |
| [16:06] <debfx> ScottK: it could be fixed but the package is obviously unmaintained | |
| [16:06] <ScottK> OK. It's gone. | |
| [16:09] <debfx> I guess we have to wait for lsb until after the beta release? | |
| [16:12] <txwikinger> This amazon ad thing.. is that only a unity thing, or does it have an effect on kubuntu? | |
| [16:19] <debfx> no, that's just a unity dash feature (or anti-feature) | |
| [16:19] <txwikinger> So it is automatically on if you have unity installed? | |
| [16:20] <txwikinger> I mean does it affect anything when you are in kubuntu desktop? | |
| [16:22] <txwikinger> oh and also.. I think since I upgraded my kubuntu netbook to quantal, I have a guest login... is that automatically added? | |
| [16:23] <ScottK> txwikinger: Yes. We switched to light-dm and it came with that. | |
| [16:23] <txwikinger> Well.. Not sure if I like that.. can you disable it? | |
| [16:26] <Riddell> txwikinger: yes you can change it in system settings | |
| [16:26] <Riddell> txwikinger: amazon feature doesn't touch kubuntu, it's part of unity | |
| [16:28] <txwikinger> Ah found it Riddell.. thanks | |
| [16:30] <Riddell> txwikinger: how did you upgrade? | |
| [16:30] <txwikinger> do-release-upgrade | |
| [16:30] <Riddell> txwikinger: groovy, any problems? | |
| [16:31] <txwikinger> Interestingly, I did it with both, my netbook and my laptop.. It seems only to be in the netbook | |
| [16:31] <txwikinger> Nope not really | |
| [16:31] <Riddell> excellent | |
| [16:31] <txwikinger> I already had kde4.9 installed anyway | |
| [16:31] <txwikinger> So I did not really see a lot of differences | |
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| [16:32] <txwikinger> Oh. yeah.. the quassel issue came up again.. Everytime I upgrade, quassel seem to lose the configuration | |
| [16:32] <txwikinger> but that seem to be more a quassel than a kubuntu issue | |
| [16:33] <Riddell> txwikinger: what all configuration? | |
| [16:33] <shadeslayer> ScottK: re bug 1054084, who uploads it? me and then backporters approve? or someone from the backporters team? | |
| [16:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1054084 in Precise Backports "Please backport kmymoney 4.6.3-1 (universe) from quantal" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1054084 | |
| [16:33] <txwikinger> the information where to find the core etc | |
| [16:34] <txwikinger> Ah.. I see why my laptop is different.. I still run kdm, not lightdm apparently | |
| [16:34] <micahg> shadeslayer: normally, the backporter uploads/accepts | |
| [16:34] <shadeslayer> ah ok | |
| [16:34] * shadeslayer will wait for someone to upload then | |
| [16:35] * micahg wonders why ScottK just marked it as approved vs doing something with it though | |
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| [19:16] <shadeslayer> !find git-import-dsc | |
| [19:16] <ubottu> File git-import-dsc found in git-buildpackage | |
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| [20:05] <Saviq> ScottK, hey, if you have time, could you please take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/comments/53 for a workaround for the Ubuntu Medium fonts and report back on the FFe bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-font-family-sources/+bug/1048600 | |
| [20:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [20:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1048600 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "[FFe] Restore "Ubuntu Medium" weights in Ubuntu's binary .deb" [High,Triaged] | |
| [20:09] <Saviq> debfx_, you're probably interested, too | |
| [20:23] <highvoltage> is there a policy when application don't have icons? | |
| [20:23] <highvoltage> Rocs doesn't have an icon and it looks pretty ugly in the Edubuntu menus | |
| [20:23] <highvoltage> would it be ok if we add something that looks more or less appropriate for 13.04 if the upstream authors don't have something yet? | |
| [20:24] <highvoltage> or maybe we could at least do a call for submissions on their part and co-ordinate that with them. | |
| [20:24] <highvoltage> I think I just answered my own question in part. | |
| [20:24] <highvoltage> highvoltage: self-^5! | |
| [20:25] <Riddell> highvoltage: add one for 12.10 if you can find one | |
| [20:25] <Riddell> it's just like any other "patch", make sure to send it upstream | |
| [20:26] <highvoltage> Riddell: it's too late for 12.10 though, isn't it? | |
| [20:26] <Riddell> highvoltage: it's a bug fix, I'd be all for it | |
| [20:27] <Riddell> Saviq: ah excellent | |
| [20:27] <highvoltage> Riddell: ok great, perhaps I could whip something together that looks almost like the one on the wikipedia page on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graph_theory | |
| [20:28] <highvoltage> hmm, maybe I could even make the graph spell an "R" | |
| [20:29] <Riddell> highvoltage: I think graphics/icon.svg is intended to be the icon | |
| [20:29] <highvoltage> ah! it wasn't there when I looked a few months ago | |
| [20:32] <Riddell> Saviq: I'm thinking report it upstream then just throw it in the ubuntu package | |
| [20:32] <Saviq> Riddell, I think it's more or less reported upstream, but that patch won't get upstream | |
| [20:33] <Riddell> Saviq: why not? | |
| [20:33] <Saviq> Riddell, 'cause it's a workaround | |
| [20:33] <Saviq> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-25814 | |
| [20:33] <Saviq> https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-27301 | |
| [20:34] <Saviq> the real issue is that Qt only has 5 weights, whereas the "industry standard" is 8 | |
| [20:34] <Saviq> so the real fix would be to implement the 8 weights in QFont | |
| [20:34] <Saviq> but that requires digging in all the backends / platforms | |
| [20:36] <Saviq> Riddell, unless you think that workaround could get upstream as a temporary measure | |
| [20:37] <highvoltage> Riddell: so, adding "graphics/icon.svg usr/share/icons/Rocs.svg" will fix that, any objections against doing it like that? | |
| [20:38] <Riddell> highvoltage: yeah that's fine I guess, might be an idea to check if there's a bug upstream to do it properly | |
| [20:39] <highvoltage> ok | |
| [20:42] <sladen> Saviq: it doesn't necessaryily require "digging in all the backends" The enum is being used to generate a value 0..100 (in the case of Qt); it's the granularity of that value into buckets on the backend that is sub-optimal (wrong) in the case of FC as the backend | |
| [20:44] <sladen> There's a few issue. (a) a Typo x2. (b) asking for MEDIUM from FC, not REGULAR. (c) the bucket mapping to/from. This patch tries to fix the first two, and workaround the third without breaking the API. And in the other half of the #if/#else provides a more thorough end solution for (c) | |
| [20:49] <ScottK> micahg: What busy. | |
| [20:50] <ScottK> Saviq: What's the upstream status of your Qt patch. Did you ask to have it reviewed? | |
| [20:50] <Saviq> sladen, yeah, that's true, backends could be fixed on a case-by-case basis | |
| [20:51] * ScottK finished reading the backscroll. | |
| [20:51] <Saviq> ScottK, not really, no, never intended that to get upstream in that form | |
| [20:51] <ScottK> Not in favor of distro unique 'work arounds' that have no hope of going away. | |
| [20:51] <sladen> ScottK: anyone in particular? or just git blame the original author (even if we're only going to distro ship it for this cycle) | |
| [20:52] <ScottK> sladen: Why just for this cycle? | |
| [20:52] <ScottK> Unless someone's volunteering to write the correct fix, there's no reason to think it won't be indefinite. | |
| [20:52] <sladen> ScottK: so that we can get the Enum expanded upstream for Qt 5.1 | |
| [20:53] <sladen> ScottK: the fix is already in that patch, behind #if/#else // Uncomment this after the API + Enum is fixed | |
| [20:53] <ScottK> It'll be a lot more than one cycle before Qt 5.1 is the default Qt for anything. | |
| [20:54] <sladen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/744812/+attachment/3335804/+files/fix_medium_font.diff <-- | |
| [20:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 744812 in ubuntu-font-family-sources (Ubuntu Quantal) "FontConfig/Qt stack choke on Ubuntu Medium font meta-data (No medium in Inkscape and too bold in Qt apps)" [High,Confirmed] | |
| [20:55] <sladen> ScottK: I can add more commentage to the patch if it's useful | |
| [20:55] * ScottK has to go. Be back later. | |
| [20:55] <ScottK> I think more about how we get out of this mess is more imporant. | |
| [20:55] <highvoltage> ### debian_qt_kde.mk can only be used with packages (originally) maintained by | |
| [20:55] <highvoltage> ### Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers, please read /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/README | |
| [20:55] <highvoltage> does that mean I should let one of you guys get this? | |
| [20:55] <Saviq> sladen, I'll put that patch and more info on the QTBUG | |
| [20:56] <highvoltage> (filed on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rocs/+bug/1055769 , btw) | |
| [20:56] <Saviq> hoping for someone to review it | |
| [20:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1055769 in rocs (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] Rocs icon not installed by default" [Medium,Confirmed] | |
| [21:00] <Riddell> highvoltage: no we're not precious, go ahead | |
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| [21:19] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1024402] Text cursor in wrong cell in calligrawords @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1024402 (by Jonathan Riddell) | |
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