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[00:02] <gypsyblood> sry went to living room to get the iso for ubunto copying onto flashdrive..gonna be 5 min...and it was a couple years ago i got this laptop
[00:04] <gypsyblood> its a toshiba sattelite A665-S6094 quad core
[00:05] <histo> gypsyblood: you won't ahve a problem with a two year old laptop
[00:05] <histo> gypsyblood: i've run ubuntu on much older hardware
[00:06] <meditatingfrog> yeah, mine is older than that
[00:06] <gypsyblood> histo: yeah i got it on here now...it runs good, i like ubuntu alot so far, just cant get my burner to work, had problem in windows too
[00:07] <meditatingfrog> does your dvd-rw burn cds okay?
[00:08] <gypsyblood> thats what im bout to try with cdrecord with the ubuntu install softwar, making an iso image on this comp
[00:08] <meditatingfrog> ah
[00:09] <gypsyblood> im gonna need help with the command line tho for it...that still confuses the hell outa me
[00:09] <meditatingfrog> having the hell out of you is a good thing
[00:10] <gypsyblood> lol yeah i dont believe in hell...but the common belief of hell is definitely a good thing to have out of you lol, so i cant argue there
[00:11] <meditatingfrog> reminds me of an alice in chains "heaven beside you, hell within"
[00:11] <meditatingfrog> alice in chains song
[00:11] <gypsyblood> ok should i put the .iso in my home folder? where would be the easiest place to put it to try this with cdrecord?
[00:11] <meditatingfrog> peace to us all
[00:11] <meditatingfrog> yeah, home folder
[00:11] <gypsyblood> yeah alice in chains is awesome
[00:13] <gypsyblood> ok its in my home folder now...can you give me the command line that i need to type to make it burn to the cd
[00:14] <gypsyblood> the file name is ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:14] <meditatingfrog> cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0 /home/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:14] <meditatingfrog> you may want to increase the speed
[00:15] <gypsyblood> k im gonna try it on the low speed first tho for this first test run
[00:15] <meditatingfrog> oh, it should be /home/username/ubuntu...iso
[00:15] <meditatingfrog> assuming you put it in the root of your home folder
[00:16] <gypsyblood> ok...and the username is the account that im logged into? like on the login screen?
[00:16] <meditatingfrog> yeah
[00:16] <gypsyblood> k just making sure
[00:17] <meditatingfrog> in the terminal you can use the "cd" command to change to the directory that has the file
[00:19] <gypsyblood> ok so what directory do i need to change to? i put it in home folder
[00:21] <meditatingfrog> cd /home/username
[00:21] <meditatingfrog> try that
[00:21] <meditatingfrog> then type "ls" to see if it's there
[00:22] <meditatingfrog> if it's there, then run the cdrecord command
[00:23] <gypsyblood> ok...it says in properties that the location is home/gypsy ....but when i type "cd home/gypsy" in the terminal it says"bash: cd: home/gypsy: No such file or directory"
[00:24] <gypsyblood> ok nvm...i was doing it wrong...got it there now
[00:25] <gypsyblood> it is
[00:26] <gypsyblood> there i mean
[00:26] <meditatingfrog> oh, then you're already there
[00:26] <meditatingfrog> what happens when you type ls?
[00:26] <meditatingfrog> do you see your file?
[00:27] <gypsyblood> yeah its there...i entered the command line and it gave me this
[00:27] <gypsyblood> cdrecord: No write mode specified. cdrecord: Assuming -sao mode. cdrecord: If your drive does not accept -sao, try -tao. cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 J�rg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '2,0' scsibus: 0 target: 2 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 cdrecord: No such file o
[00:28] <gypsyblood> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open or use SCSI driver. cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'
[00:28] <gypsyblood> the rest of it
[00:29] <gypsyblood> cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=2,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso <---what i typed as for the command
[00:30] <meditatingfrog> maybe i should try to ssh in
[00:31] <meditatingfrog> otherwise you have to type cdrecord -scanbus
[00:31] <meditatingfrog> and see what dev= should be set to
[00:31] <meditatingfrog> you should get something like this: scsibus3:
[00:31] <meditatingfrog> 3,0,0 300) 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GSA-U10N ' 'TS05' Removable CD-ROM
[00:32] <meditatingfrog> yours is probably 3,0,0 too like mine
[00:32] <meditatingfrog> so try cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=3,0,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[00:34] <gypsyblood> nope same msg
[00:34] <gypsyblood> Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.00 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2010 J�rg Schilling Linux sg driver version: 3.5.34 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'.
[00:34] <gypsyblood> scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'ATA ' 'ST1000LM010-9YH1' 'CC9F' Disk 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) *
[00:34] <meditatingfrog> how about cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=3,0 /home/gypsy/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso ?
[00:35] <gypsyblood> scsibus4: 4,0,0 400) 'Optiarc ' 'DVD RW AD-7703S ' '1.T0' Removable CD-ROM 4,1,0 401) * 4,2,0 402) * 4,3,0 403) * 4,4,0 404) * 4,5,0 405) * 4,6,0 406) * 4,7,0 407) *
[00:35] <gypsyblood> scsibus8: 8,0,0 800) 'CBM ' 'Flash Disk ' '5.00' Removable Disk 8,1,0 801) * 8,2,0 802) * 8,3,0 803) * 8,4,0 804) * 8,5,0 805) * 8,6,0 806) * 8,7,0 807) *
[00:35] <gypsyblood> thats all the infor -scanbus gave me
[00:35] <meditatingfrog> !paste
[00:35] <ubot2> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[00:36] <meditatingfrog> it's quiet so it probably doesn't matter, but i don't want a bot kicking you or something
[00:36] <meditatingfrog> so it's 4,1,0
[00:36] <meditatingfrog> or 4,1
[00:36] <gypsyblood> oh...i didnt know about that
[00:36] <meditatingfrog> oh, no, wait, 4,0,0
[00:36] <meditatingfrog> no worries
[00:36] <gypsyblood> how do i that paste.ubuntu.com thing?
[00:37] <meditatingfrog> just go to the site, paste what you have, then it gives you a link after you submit it
[00:37] <meditatingfrog> then paste the link
[00:37] <gypsyblood> oh ok...yeah, leme write that down...i have a feeling im gonna need it lol
[00:39] <gypsyblood> ok got that wrote down...now use the 4,0,0 for the dev?
[00:40] <gypsyblood> ok yeah that was it
[00:40] <gypsyblood> bout to find out if its gonna work
[00:40] <meditatingfrog> cool
[00:41] <meditatingfrog> so you're making a movie disc to watch on a dvd player?
[00:42] <meditatingfrog> i had this old dvd player i cracked open, i wanted to see if there was someway i could route video from an old computer through it to a tv or something somehow
[00:42] <meditatingfrog> i dunno, it was a silly idea
[00:42] <meditatingfrog> ironically, the new dvd players have like usb ports on them and wifi and junk
[00:43] <meditatingfrog> or, well, perhaps not ironically
[00:43] <meditatingfrog> coincidentally
[00:43] <gypsyblood> yeah..i use to burn alot of dvd's...now tho i primarily use a flashdrive and my ps3 instead of using so many blank disks
[00:44] <gypsyblood> i had a car once that someone stole my cd player out of...i wired in a portably dvd player to the speakers lol
[00:45] <gypsyblood> portable*
[00:45] <gypsyblood> so far so good...its about halfway done
[00:45] <gypsyblood> so i use the same command line for dvd's as well?
[00:47] <meditatingfrog> i think so, there doesn't appear to be a dvd option
[00:48] <meditatingfrog> at least that i saw
[00:49] <gypsyblood> k...i think ill try that next, its almost done with this
[00:50] <gypsyblood> could i get you to put the command line for turning something into and .iso again plz?
[00:50] <gypsyblood> into *an*
[00:51] <gypsyblood> and then after that im just gonna do alot of studying as far as the different commands go...i like using the terminal, just need to learn it better
[00:52] <gypsyblood> i remember when i was a kid, on my dads old computer we had to use the command prompt for everything, so i wasnt half bad at it...but thats been about 15 years or so since i had to use that
[00:53] <meditatingfrog> mkisofs -R -o cdimage.raw /path-to-certain-VIDEO_TS folder
[00:55] <gypsyblood> and the /path-to-certain..etc is like the /home/gypsy/ubuntu......iso right? same thing just to whatever the VIDEO_TS is?
[00:56] <meditatingfrog> yes
[00:56] <meditatingfrog> here's a command-line i've kept up over the years: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208021/
[00:56] <meditatingfrog> command-line file
[00:56] <gypsyblood> ok cool, thnx so much for all your help
[00:56] <meditatingfrog> \o
[00:57] <meditatingfrog> i mean, see you
[00:57] <gypsyblood> and yeah...that iso did burn onto the cd doing it that way
[00:59] <gypsyblood> ok im off to experiment with trying a dvd now, take it easy, and again, thnx alot
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[08:08] <bagus> hi all how to solve this error message: Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
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[13:05] <omfghelp> hello?
[13:06] <omfghelp> anyone hee?
[13:06] <omfghelp> here
[13:06] <omfghelp> lol...
[13:06] <__pem__> Just arriving
[13:07] <omfghelp> my windows is crapped out
[13:07] <omfghelp> so this ubuntu was on it
[13:07] <omfghelp> now i have no idea how to use linux
[13:07] <omfghelp> or install a program
[13:08] <__pem__> you should be able to hop on your CD or USBstick that you used for your install
[13:10] <omfghelp> no i had this cpu giving to me
[13:10] <omfghelp> with this stuff already installed
[13:10] <Sidewinder1> omfghelp, What version on ubuntu?
[13:11] <omfghelp> i think 6.10
[13:11] <omfghelp> im not sure i dont know much how to navigate around
[13:11] <bagus> exit
[13:11] <omfghelp> this is my first time in linux
[13:13] <Sidewinder1> omfghelp, Well, if you're correct, 6.10 went "End of Life" 7/14/2009 and is no longer supported; the current versions are 10.04 and 12.04. Here's a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29
[13:14] <__pem__> how did you started your installation?
[13:14] <omfghelp> ok thanks i will check it out
[13:14] <omfghelp> but i dont know how to install it
[13:15] <gsteinert> omfghelp: you'll need to download and burn a live CD for a newer version
[13:15] <Sidewinder1> omfghelp, In terms of learning about ubuntu in general, this is a great place to start: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index
[13:15] <gsteinert> the boot from the cd and follow the instructions
[13:16] <omfghelp> oh ok
[13:17] <omfghelp> so i can update anything till then
[13:17] <omfghelp> im trying to get a wireless manager
[13:17] <omfghelp> so i dont have to be connected direct
[13:17] <gsteinert> omfghelp: your best bet is to start with a fresh install. 6.10 is almost 6 years old. a lot has changed in that time
[13:18] <omfghelp> i have no idea
[13:18] <omfghelp> i never used linux
[13:18] <Sidewinder1> omfghelp, Since you're coming from the windows environment, you might find Lucid Lynx - 10.04 easiest to learn; even though it will go EOL April 2013.
[13:18] <omfghelp> windows took a crap so thatas why i am on this
[13:18] <omfghelp> ok well thanks guys
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> Good luck!
[13:19] <omfghelp> take care cyaz
[13:19] <gsteinert> omfghelp: or you could try Kubuntu. it's a version of ubuntu that uses the KDE desktop. the KDE desktop is the most similar to windows imho
[19:25] <DiNgL3> Anyone able to offer some assistance locking down shared memory
[19:27] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: i will if i can
[19:27] <DiNgL3> Oh brilliant thanks
[19:28] <DiNgL3> im trying to secure some of my websites so have been doing some reading and came across this guide http:/​/​www.thefanclub.co.za/​node/​50 I have created a test lamp server updated to 12.04.1 and started following the guide didn't want to do it on my live sites. I have got to securing the shared memory and im stuck. I add tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid 0 0 to the end of /etc/fstab. Once I
[19:28] <DiNgL3> done that I reboot and receive errors upon reboot - mount: unknown filesystem type tmpfs mountall: mount /dev/shm [312] terminated with status 32 mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted /dev/shm fsck from until-linux 2.20.1
[19:29] <DiNgL3> I've been getting ddos lots the last few days and need to get my live servers secured ASAP
[19:29] <meditatingfrog> i haven't done that before, have you tried #ubuntu-server ?
[19:30] <DiNgL3> Hmmm no ill try there and serif I have any luck thank you for looking and trying ;)
[19:31] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: well give them a shot, and if they can't come back here, someone probably has a lamp server they are setting up. oh, and try #ubuntu-security
[19:32] <DiNgL3> Ah nice one thank you so much
[19:33] <DiNgL3> It won't let me in the security one for some reason
[19:34] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: yeah, it redirects to #ubuntu-hardened, same thing
[19:36] <DiNgL3> Cheers
[19:36] <meditatingfrog> :) \o
[19:36] <meditatingfrog> Cheers
[19:38] <DiNgL3> No one seems to want to help me with this and I can find very much nine about it either. I really struggle with Linux it's my least confident operating system by a long way I really wish I had become more familiar with it 5 or so years back
[19:54] <DiNgL3> meditatingfrog: I'm not getting any luck in the other channels ;(
[19:56] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: you may have to be patient, it's a weekend :|
[19:56] <DiNgL3> meditatingfrog: Yeah that's true I suppose
[19:58] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: just looked at the error, can you run the mount command that fails in a terminal to see if it works? maybe it's a "rights" issue
[20:06] <DiNgL3> What is the mount command if you look at the guide I was following all I did was add a line of code to /etc/fstab
[20:07] <DiNgL3> Sorry if that sounds really noobish but to be honest I am a Linux noob really
[20:09] <meditatingfrog> who isn't?
[20:09] <meditatingfrog> no, i'm saying to try the mount command outside of /etc/fstab just to troubleshoot
[20:15] <DiNgL3> Ah right what would I type for the command then if I'm putting this at the end of /etc/fstab tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[20:18] <meditatingfrog> sudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs
[20:19] <meditatingfrog> make sure there's a "tmpfs" folder
[20:19] <meditatingfrog> in fact, i don't think that will work, the 2nd tmpfs *i think* should be a path
[20:19] <meditatingfrog> assuming a mount command is the same @ a terminal as in /etc/fstab
[20:27] <DiNgL3> One sec I'll try that now and let you know
[20:29] <DiNgL3> mount: mount point tmpfs does not exist
[20:30] <meditatingfrog> yeah, the 2nd tmpfs needs to be the path to a directory
[20:30] <meditatingfrog> like ~/tmpfs or something
[20:30] <meditatingfrog> or /home/username/tmpfs
[20:57] <DiNgL3> Ok so I need to create a directory?
[20:57] <meditatingfrog> any ideas on how to prevent my fluxbox menu from disappearing? it's fine on a boot, but after i've been working for awhile, suspending and stuff it appears to revert back to the gnome desktop
[20:57] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: yeah
[21:09] <DiNgL3> meditatingfrog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209763/
[21:13] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: why did you paste that?
[21:14] <DiNgL3> So it looks like tmpfs is at /run so I presume I change the line in /etc/fstab
[21:20] <meditatingfrog> tmpfs is a type of file system
[21:21] <meditatingfrog> i *think*, i mean, that's what the mount -t is doing, -t is type
[21:22] <meditatingfrog> DiNgL3: i think what should be the path at the end of the mount command is /run
[21:23] <meditatingfrog> so sudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs
[21:23] <meditatingfrog> should be sudo mount -t tmpfs /dev/shm /run
[21:28] <meditatingfrog> bbl
[21:54] <yeehi> Hello! I need help - I am trying to get an ubuntu server to automatically power up and reboot after a power out
[21:54] <yeehi> The bios settings are ok
[21:54] <yeehi> but the system doesn't boot - it just gets to the select a boot option screen
[21:54] <yeehi> then it waits
[21:55] <yeehi> I thought I would just have to go into Grub and change the timeout settings
[21:55] <yeehi> but grub is not installed!
[21:55] <yeehi> How does it ever launch itself?
[21:56] <yeehi> anyway, should I install grub? or will that interfere with whatever is in there already for starting the system...
[22:33] <meditatingfrog> yeehi: it boots under normal conditions though?
[23:06] <yeehi> Hi meditatingfrog
[23:06] <yeehi> I have solved the problem
[23:06] <meditatingfrog> hi yeehi
[23:06] <yeehi> I installed grub!
[23:06] <meditatingfrog> cool
[23:07] <yeehi> I don't know how I got it to go into the the desktop before...
[23:07] <meditatingfrog> never installed grub (i mean, aside from a new install)
[23:08] <yeehi> what version of ubuntu are you running, meditatingfrog?
[23:10] <meditatingfrog> 12.04
[23:10] <meditatingfrog> why?