2012/09/16/#kubuntu.txt

[00:15] <gbz> kubuntu beta 1 is *amazingly* responsive even from the usb stick
[00:16] <szal> great for you, but off-topic here ;)
[00:16] <gbz> why?
[00:17] <gbz> szal: ?
[00:17] <szal> !quantal | gbz <- because
[00:17] <ubottu> gbz <- because: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+1
[00:18] <gbz> i dont like the way it autodects my small screen though. its been annoying ever since that was introduced
[00:19] <gbz> no kubuntu+1?
[00:29] <gbz> i like the new calligra. better than libreoffice
[00:30] <geowany_> gbz: ;)
[00:31] <geowany_> gbz: calliga + kile
[00:31] <gbz> i think im actually going to install tomorrow. really impressed. hope it doesnt break that much until final. im not good with dpkg mambo jumbo
[00:32] <gbz> maybe grab a daily iso
[00:33] <gbz> geowany_: i dont use latex sorry
[00:33]  * szal sees no hope for Calligra until it works w/ OOo/LO ODF files properly
[00:33] <szal> KWord 2.1 couldn't even open my letter templates from LO
[00:34] <szal> and if it did, they looked like garbage
[00:38] <gbz> hmm one instance of braindump is stuck on memory. and its icon looks really horrible in task switching. its really low quality
[00:40] <gbz> and it cant be killed for some reason
[00:45] <gbz> maybe vlc would be a worthy addition. there is space :p
[00:46] <gbz> hmm favourites in classic menu has a kopete shortcut which naturally doesnt work
[00:46] <gbz> bug^
[00:48] <gbz> it says favorites. i guess thats en-us. damn violators
[00:52] <gbz> hmm libreoffice is in upgrades. are you gonna ship 2 office suites?
[00:54] <gbz> ok, times up. gonna install tomorrow. good night
[02:54] <maco> apachelogger: does kubuntu's version of quassel-core only support sqlite? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208124/
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[06:28] <gbz> trying to install 12.10  was a bad idea after all. even though the beta worked fine. after applying the upgrades it all went up in smoke. ill do 12.04.1 + 4.9.1 ppa for now
[06:29] <gbz> too bad kopete will stay
[06:31] <geowany_> gbz: and kde-telepathy?
[06:31] <gbz> and kdm too. lightdm is better
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[06:31] <gbz> Geowany: what about it?
[06:32] <gbz> telepathy is better than kopete. anything is
[06:32] <Geowany> gbz: I read anyplace that kopete will be changed to kde-telepathy
[06:32] <gbz> yes. it will. its better and well integrated in system settings as well
[06:33] <Geowany> gbz: I don't like when kopete update (kde3 -> kde4) lose the irc protocol
[06:34] <gbz> you'll get it  back in 12.10. i dont know if kde-telepathy is available for 12.04
[06:35] <gbz> didnt check all the updates from the ppa im getting now but i dont think its in there
[06:36] <gbz> are upgrades from version to version reliable? 12.04-> 12.10 for example
[06:49] <gbz> now i have some weird entries in the menu
[06:49] <gbz> and muon is gone from the menu. wtf
[06:50] <gbz> WTF!
[06:51] <gbz> does anyone know whats up with that?
[06:53] <gbz> i have an about plasma active icon which does nothing. an adjust date and time. and a widget strip. and myon is gone!
[06:57] <gbz> http://paste.kde.org/549740
[06:57] <gbz> wtf!
[06:58] <gbz> it removed myon on its own. i was told that it was just gonna remove a libkdegamessomething
[06:59] <gbz> how  the hell did that happen? any ideas anyone?
[07:03] <gbz> is myon reliable?
[07:03] <gbz> or the ppa is broken
[07:04] <gbz> is anyone providing support here?
[07:06] <akis> hi all. in which file is it stored the history of all the commands i gave in my terminal window?
[07:08] <gbz> maybe in /var/tmp/kdecache-* not sure though
[07:08] <gbz> might want to ask in #kde. noone is here
[07:11] <akis> ok thanks. i thought there is a file in my /home
[07:11] <gbz> maybe there is. i dont know
[07:11] <gbz> akis: oh wait . bash keeps a history too
[07:12] <gbz> i thought you meant an internal kde file
[07:12] <gbz> look for a ~/.bash_history
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[07:12] <gbz> yeah, should be there
[07:16] <akis> i will have a look
[07:17] <akis> no /.bash in my /home
[07:17] <akis> oh wait there is a file
[07:17] <akis> not a dir
[07:17] <gbz> thats what you want i misunderstood your question at first. i think konsole keeps a log somewhere too
[07:18] <gbz> yes a file called ~/.bash_history
[07:18] <akis> yesss. everything is here. is it sure there is everything from the start of my distro?
[07:19] <gbz> probably
[07:19] <akis> ok. thanks !
[07:19] <gbz> np
[07:19] <gbz> i wish someone would help me too
[07:23] <Graf_Westerholt> gbz, what is your problem?
[07:24] <gbz> Graf_Westerholt: i installed 12.04.1 and tried to upgrade to the 4.9.1 ppa. this is what happened:  http://paste.kde.org/549740
[07:24] <gbz> it removed myon among other important things
[07:26] <Graf_Westerholt> Muon?
[07:26] <gbz> the only change i did that might have some effect to anything was removing all sources repos and the cdrom from software list
[07:26] <gbz> yea, muon
[07:28] <gbz> when prompted about some packages being unselected for the upgrade i chose all. the dialog said that only a libkdegames lib was about to be removed
[07:29] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry, I have no idea, that is to much for my Linux skills.
[07:29] <gbz> probably libkdegames5a which is in removal output
[07:30] <gbz> maybe i should install aptitude
[07:30] <gbz> even though i doubt thats gonna fix anything now
[07:32] <gbz> now i get this:
[07:32] <gbz> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[07:32] <gbz>   plasma-active-mobilecomponents share-like-connect-data libqtwebkit-qmlwebkitplugin share-like-connect plasma-active-data
[07:32] <gbz> what the flying fucj
[07:33] <akis> i used this command "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-filter-so52" to make OO to read StarOffice files. Do you think this command will work with a newly install LibreOffice or is any other similar command available?
[07:33] <gbz> those were the crap that appered in my menus
[07:34] <Graf_Westerholt> I do not know.
[07:35] <Graf_Westerholt> I suggest you reinstall the complet system.
[07:35] <gbz> me?
[07:35] <Graf_Westerholt> Yes, gbz.
[07:36] <gbz> i ve already done two installations. and since i dont know what caused this, since i didnt do anything weird, whos gonna guarantee thats not gonna happen again?
[07:36] <Graf_Westerholt> You did not say that.
[07:37] <Graf_Westerholt> So you should not upgrade Kubuntu to KDE 4.8
[07:37] <Graf_Westerholt> *4.9
[07:37] <gbz> isnt the ppa supposed to work? its almost official
[07:37] <Graf_Westerholt> I guess not.
[07:38] <gbz> heh, change your license to mit/x11
[07:38] <gbz> ffs
[07:38] <Graf_Westerholt> Sorry?
[07:38] <gbz> nothing
[07:38] <gbz> im pissed off
[07:39] <Graf_Westerholt> Why?
[07:39] <gbz> cause the cat has one ear
[07:40] <Graf_Westerholt> gbz, my KDE is 4.8.5, so I guess 4.9 is not finished yet, it is beta.
[07:40] <gbz> 4.9.1 has released
[07:41] <gbz> and you have no idea what you're talking about. are you even using kubuntu?
[07:41] <Graf_Westerholt> Do you want me to ignore you?
[07:41] <gbz> 12.04 has 4.8.4
[07:41] <gbz> there is no 4.8.5 upgrade
[07:42] <gbz> and 4.9.1 is much better than 4.8.x. its not 4.0.1, that was beta
[07:42] <gbz> or even prealpha
[07:43] <Graf_Westerholt> My KDE is 4.8.5. Are you trolling?
[07:43] <gbz> no, is it from a ppa?
[07:43] <Graf_Westerholt> Sure.
[07:44] <gbz> ok, that explains it
[07:47] <gbz> oh damn, back to the basics
[08:04] <lordievader> Good morning
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[09:23] <faLUCE>  hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic
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[10:54] <faLUCE> with lsusb I see that none of the usb units are marked with "high speed". Only "full speed", for 2.0 too. why?
[10:55] <Peace-> faLUCE:  high speed i guess is fr 2.0
[10:55] <faLUCE> Peace-: ?
[10:58] <faLUCE> Peace-: ?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
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[12:17] <momo_> wo bin ich??
[12:27] <mck182> shadeslayer: is kdevelop 4.4rc packaged for precise somewhere?
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[12:40] <murataman> @dilo§
[13:04] <oneadvent> hi, i may be retarded, but can someone tell me how to start telepathy, or is empathy and telepathy the same thing?
[13:06] <dileks> hi
[13:06] <oneadvent> hi
[13:07] <dileks> I wanted to try kde-sc v4.9.1 and did a 'apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa'
[13:07] <BluesKaj> oneadvent, the quick method is alt+f2 , type telepathy
[13:07]  * dileks follows http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491
[13:08] <oneadvent> BluesKaj: I did that and looked in my menu and it doesn't seem to find telepathy (telepathy: command not found in cli) but I have kde-telepathy is already the newest version.
[13:08] <dileks> but I only see v4.8.5 packages available
[13:09] <dileks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208839/
[13:09] <BluesKaj> oneadvent, ok then type kde-telepathy :)
[13:10] <oneadvent> :D i did..same thing, command not found
[13:10] <oneadvent> kde-telepathy: command not found
[13:11] <BluesKaj> oneadvent, sudo apt-get install kde-telepathy
[13:11] <oneadvent> just the kde-telepathy is already the newest version.
[13:11] <oneadvent> http://paste2.org/p/2230542  specifically
[13:12] <BluesKaj> did you look in the kmenu>apps>internet, oneadvent
[13:12] <oneadvent> BluesKaj: yea and i dont see it there either :/
[13:13] <BluesKaj> dileks, I think you have to upgrade 4.9.0 , then 4.9.1
[13:13] <BluesKaj> oneadvent, have you updated/upgraded lately ?
[13:13] <avihay> umm, ktp-contactlist ?
[13:14] <oneadvent> um nothing out of the ordinary, on 12.04, and i can try that avihay
[13:14] <oneadvent> i think i did but i'll try again
[13:15] <oneadvent> ah there it is! avihay you found it...
[13:15] <avihay> I was wondering bout that myself, but I always got distracted when I tried to find the solution
[13:15] <BluesKaj> telepathy was broken on my system the last time I tried it ... don't care for all in one clients anyway
[13:16] <oneadvent> avihay: do you know the indicator applet too?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> odd that typing the name of the app doesn't launch it
[13:16] <avihay> I think it's ment to be used as a plasmoid something?
[13:17] <avihay> anyway, the repository's version is 0.4 which is supposed to be of beta quality
[13:17] <avihay> 0.5 is deemed a reasonable replacement for keopete
[13:18] <oneadvent> well KDE Telepathy Contact List
[13:18] <oneadvent> Version 0.5
[13:19] <oneadvent> that is what i'm on
[13:19] <oneadvent> but idk how to make it minimize so gots work to do on it
[13:20] <avihay> can minimize via the taskbar
[13:20] <oneadvent>  WARNING **: Failed to register the approver: Name 'org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Client.IndicatorApprover' already in use by another process
[13:20] <oneadvent> that is the error i get trying to make it an indicator. might have to reboot :/
[13:20] <oneadvent> lemme try and reboot x and see if that helps
[13:23] <oneadvent> hmmm i think it is empathy getting in the way
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[13:41] <Boffy> Hello, What is the bets programmes that is KDE based for DVD ripping? i've tried k3b but nothing happens when i clcik ripDVD it just jumps to the folder in DVD. i added (installed) transcode but again nothing happens. currently using Handbrake, but i was wondering if an easy to use KDE app can do it.
[13:41] <Boffy> best
[13:42] <avihay> maybe Amarok has something
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Boffy, what's the file extnsion /file type you are trying to rip with k3b?
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Boffy, make sure you kubuntu-restricted-extras installed as well
[13:55] <avihay> anyone has any luck authenticating telepathy with ICQ? also with SIP?
[14:04] <mck182> avihay: I do with icq
[14:06] <avihay> mck182:  no particular issues?
[14:06] <mck182> nope
[14:06] <mck182> avihay: do you have kwallet enabled?
[14:06] <avihay> maybe not authing on some networks
[14:06] <avihay> yes
[14:06] <mck182> avihay: and what's your exact problem?
[14:07] <avihay> both the msn and ICQ I had from before are non-functional
[14:07] <mck182> hm
[14:07] <mck182> well you can try either readding the accounts
[14:07] <avihay> I've managed to readd msn and gtalk successfully though
[14:07] <mck182> no luck with icq?
[14:07] <avihay> icq, still no dice :-<
[14:08] <mck182> what does it say when you try to connect?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> ppl actually still use icq ?
[14:08]  * mck182 wish people wouldn't, but understands why..
[14:10]  * Garheade has never logged into icq
[14:12] <avihay> BluesKaj: you'd be surprised mck182: authentication failure
[14:12] <mck182> avihay: can you open kwalletmanager and look if the password there is correct?
[14:13] <dileks> BluesKaj: how to upgrade to v4.9.x?
[14:13] <mck182> or even try removing it from there, it should ask you for the pass again
[14:13] <avihay> I retyped them, but TBH, I'm not sure of it anymore...
[14:13] <dileks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#Commandline_method
[14:13] <dileks> I followed this... so
[14:14] <BluesKaj> dileks, did you add the backport ppa to your repositories , then update and upgrade ?
[14:15] <dileks> of course
[14:15] <dileks> lemme check the auto-added sources.list
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dileks, and then do dist-upgrade
[14:16] <dileks> nope nope nope
[14:16] <dileks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208974/
[14:16] <faLUCE> hi. I can't open two usb cameras simoultaneously. It says VIDIOC_STREAMON failed, no space left on device, although I'm sure I'm not exceeding the 2.0 bandwidth, with the sum of the two cameras ... where can be the problem? I googled ans saw many other people having this issue but couldn't understand what to do. kernel is 3.0.0-13-generic
[14:17] <qingsong> fgg
[14:18] <dileks> kubuntu-ppa-ppa-precise.list
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[14:18] <dileks> shouldnt that be blablubbs backports?
[14:18] <qingsong> 你好
[14:18] <qingsong> hello
[14:18] <dileks> hehe
[14:18] <dileks> grrr
[14:18] <dileks> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-plasma-workspaces-applications-and-platform-491
[14:18] <FloodBotK1> dileks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <dileks> ...says...
[14:19] <dileks> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:19] <BluesKaj> dileks, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:19] <dileks> looks like wrong repo
[14:20] <dileks> lemme through away the added one
[14:21] <dileks> no no no
[14:21] <dileks> no auto-upgrade wanted
[14:21] <dileks> apt-pinning dance again
[14:22] <dileks> updated the ubuntu pinning-howto some days ago
[14:22] <dileks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Pinning_the_ubuntu-x-swat.2BAC8-q-lts-backport-precise_PPA
[14:22] <BluesKaj> dileks,  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[14:23] <dileks> it works. was wrong repo
[14:23] <dileks> # cat kubuntu-ppa-backports-precise.list
[14:23] <dileks> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
[14:23] <dileks> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu precise main
[14:24] <avihay> hello
[14:24] <BluesKaj> dileks, which one works?
[14:25] <dileks> the last quoted
[14:25] <dileks> I do a paste of both... sources.list and apt-pinning-file
[14:27] <BluesKaj> the launchpad ppa ..odd ,
[14:27] <dileks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1208998/
[14:28] <dileks> is there a meta-package I can reference to upgrade to kde-4.9.1?
[14:28] <dileks> kde-standard, -full whatever
[14:29] <dileks> kde-standard seems to exist
[14:29] <dileks> there is no kde-minimal anymore?
[14:30] <dileks> guess its same situation as with debian
[14:30] <dileks> apt-pinning works
[14:32] <dileks> FloodBotK1: flood?
[14:35] <dileks> good, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209017/
[14:36] <dileks> there exist a kde-greeter for lightdm?
[14:36] <dileks> lightdm-kde-greeter - LightDM KDE greeter
[14:36] <dileks> nice when I answer your own question :-)
[14:36] <dileks> thanks
[14:37] <dileks> dunno if I wil really upgrade to kde-sc v4.9.1 or not
[14:38] <BluesKaj> dileks, I have the same repos/ppas already listed in my sources.list but 4.9.1 doesn't install from them either
[14:39] <dileks> thats why I asked for the meta package
[14:39] <BluesKaj> think I'll stick with 4.9.0
[14:40] <dileks> try... apt-get install kde-standard (optionally with -t $distribution)
[14:40] <dileks> I can do a simultated upgrade
[14:42] <BluesKaj> I'm running 4.9.1 on 12.10 , there isn't much diff to a home user compared to 4.9.0
[14:43] <dileks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209031/
[14:43] <BluesKaj> 12,04 here is very similar ']
[14:43] <dileks> takes the 4.8.5 pkgs
[14:47] <dileks> yupp, as pointed already... -t precise gives you v4.9.1 pkgs
[14:47] <dileks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1209037/
[14:47] <dileks> apt-get install -t precise kde-standard --simulate
[14:47] <dileks> BluesKaj: ^^
[14:49] <dileks> 63 upgraded, 216 newly installed, 0 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
[14:50] <dileks> no data for disc-usage
[14:53] <dileks> hmm, this would install lightdm-kde-greeter and kdm
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[15:03] <dileks> -d gives some numbers... 278 MB of archives... 413 MB of additional disk space will be used
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[15:36] <dileks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto#Examples
[15:36] <dileks> Example #2: Pinning the kubuntu-ppa/backports PPA
[15:37] <dileks> thanks for your help
[15:37] <dileks> have fun :-)
[15:37] <dileks> bye
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[15:53] <GirlyGirl> Hi, I have no idea what happened but my sister did some stuff and her laptop boots to busybox and nothing beyond that. its supposed to have kubuntu 12.04.1
[15:53] <GirlyGirl> Files from the home partition are accessible via a live cd
[15:56] <Roey> GirlyGirl:  do you have experience with wacom tablets in kubuntu 12.04
[15:56] <Roey> ?
[15:56] <GirlyGirl> Roey: No sorry
[15:57] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, can the / partition be mounted ?
[15:57] <Roey> aye
[15:57] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: Under a livecd yes
[15:58] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I got my tablet to work finally.  Turns out I had installed this pre-production PPA wacom kernel driver six months ago, and it kept overriding the stock driver.
[15:58] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, wonder if grub was wiped somehow
[15:59] <GirlyGirl> Can't be, you get a grub loader screen to select os to boot, windows or Ubuntu, after chosing Ubuntu it goes to busybox
[15:59] <lordievader> Roey: I have some experience with Wacom, do you still have a problem?
[16:00] <Roey> not anymore
[16:00] <Roey> just gestures
[16:00] <Roey> in Krita.  But that's an issue for the Krita developers
[16:00] <BluesKaj> ok GirlyGirl , then try running the recovery kernel , and in the dialog "choose repair broken packages "
[16:00] <lordievader> Roey: Ah, that is a generation after my tablet...
[16:00] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: I tried, that loads busybox too
[16:01] <Roey> lordievader:  hee, intuos5 here :>
[16:01] <Roey> though unusable for a few months while I was resolving that issue.
[16:02] <PeterME> Hi I have a question, I've gotten my Genius EasyPen i405X graphics tablet to work on my machine but unfortunately I'm unable to limit it to use only one of my three screens. This causes a terrible scaling weher the vertical axes is about 3-4 times as sensitive as the horizontal axis rendering it almost impossible to use..
[16:03] <PeterME> Tried the transformation matrix but that ended up with the pointer jumping around like crazy when I draw vertical lines..
[16:04] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, did try typing exit at the prompt ?
[16:04] <GirlyGirl> No
[16:05] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, do you get any errors when it drops to busybox?
[16:05] <GirlyGirl> No, but I do not see a splash screen or anything,
[16:07] <BluesKaj> do you have an initramfs prompt ?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> if so type exit and see if the boot continues
[16:08] <PeterME> Roey: Are you running a single- or multi-monitor setup?
[16:08] <Roey> single
[16:09] <PeterME> Darn, I was hoping someone with a graphics tablet was having similar difficulties.
[16:10] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: Typing exit makes the laptop go off
[16:11] <GirlyGirl> It instantly goes of and the laptop makes a click noise like it normally does during an improper shutdown e.g press power for 5s
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[16:12] <lordievader> PeterME: Perhaps post #3 of the following thread can help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1393775
[16:13] <BluesKaj> ok GirlyGirl , once you get back to grub choose the kernel then to edit the file with "e" , then remove the "quiet" and "splash" options from the boot arguments , that might work
[16:13] <lordievader> PeterME: Or perhaps this: http://bensimonds.com/2011/05/25/setting-up-dual-monitors-with-a-wacom-tablet-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[16:13] <PeterME> lordievader: Unfortunately it's not a wacom tablet so it's not running on the wacom drivers..
[16:14] <PeterME> I've tried this approch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656089
[16:14] <PeterME> Without luck
[16:15] <PeterME> I'm able to limit it to one screen but it jumps between it's actual position and the edge of the sreen
[16:16] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: Still busybox
[16:18] <lordievader> PeterME: Ah I see, I assumed too much.
[16:18] <BluesKaj> then GirlyGirl , I don't have a suggestion , except reinstall to / , it shouldn't take too long , just make sure your home partition mountpoint is selected , without formatting
[16:19] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, , but you'll need to format / mountpoint
[16:22] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: Any ideas on how to install, the dvd drive is broken and its usb ports don't work well
[16:22] <GirlyGirl> I've just kept upgrading Kubuntu on it since the drive broke
[16:22] <TheLordOfTime> replace the parts on your system?
[16:23] <lordievader> GirlyGirl: Get a new dvd drive?
[16:23] <GirlyGirl> TheLordOfTime: I guess dvd could be replaced but her laptop is old so it might be a waste
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> GirlyGirl, so buy an external CD/DVD reader
[16:24] <GirlyGirl> THe usb works but ever 10 mins or so it behaves as if the usb device was unplugged and replugged
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> they run, oh, about $45 but its a decent investment
[16:24] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, you could upgrade to 12.10 over the internet if you feel adventurous
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> ehh, right, your USB is glitchy
[16:24] <GirlyGirl> BluesKaj: from busybox?
[16:24] <PeterME> lordievader: Do you have a tablet in a multi-monitor setup?
[16:24] <TheLordOfTime> GirlyGirl, i'd say replace the system, if its that old and its not working USB or DVD, you might be in for the ending of that system
[16:25] <lordievader> PeterME: No, simply a laptop with, at times, an older Wacom tablet.
[16:25] <GirlyGirl> I have a live cd working on it though from an image boot thing I set up in grub
[16:25] <GirlyGirl> Its a 11.04 live cd I think
[16:26] <PeterME> lordievader: Aah, have you ever tried the Coordinate Transformation Matrix thing?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> GirlyGirl, oops ..sorry too much going on here ..got confused for a minute
[16:26] <lordievader> PeterME: Never even heard of that. Rarely use it with Linux.
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> isnt 11.04 EOL soon?
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> !11.04
[16:29] <ubottu> Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) was the fourteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1104
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> !eol
[16:29] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[16:29] <TheLordOfTime> yep its EOL in october
[16:30] <PeterME> lordievader: Okay, my tablet works so much better under windows. Don't really want to have to switch back and forth though..
[16:30] <sekisushai> hi
[16:31] <lordievader> PeterME: Oh well, I don't mind switching back and forth.
[16:31] <lordievader> Hey sekisushai, how are you?
[16:31] <sekisushai> i've got a problem to run a usb dongle with r8191su driver
[16:31] <sekisushai> lordievader : fine thanks :)
[16:32] <PeterME> lordievader: It's just annoying to keep both up to date..
[16:33] <sekisushai> this dongle is run by r8712u driver under my kubuntu x86_64 12.04.. no detection problem, idem scanning the network, but impossible to associate the dongle to an essid
[16:33] <sekisushai> i read on the web this is a bug with r8712 module and kernel 3.2.x .. i don't really know
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[17:45] <kensuaga> i am trying to get the best 3d performince from my ati x1400 and i just installed Gallium3d and i still cant get a game to run
[17:48] <kensuaga> i am trying to get the best 3d performince from my ati x1400 and i just installed Gallium3d and i still cant get a game to run
[17:49] <lordievader> kensuaga: What games are you trying to run?
[17:49] <kensuaga> these are the errors i get SDL Initialized
[17:49] <kensuaga> libGL error: failed to load driver: r300
[17:49] <kensuaga> libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
[17:49] <kensuaga> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[17:49] <kensuaga> libGL error: Try again with LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose for more details.
[17:49] <FloodBotK1> kensuaga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:49] <kensuaga> SDL_net Initialized
[17:50] <kensuaga> the game is called coldest
[17:50] <lordievader> kensuaga: And what are the system requirements? Is it a windows game btw?
[17:50] <kensuaga> in is the linux version
[17:51] <kensuaga> http://www.lgdb.org/game/coldest
[17:52] <lordievader> kensuaga: Hmm is the x1400 on par with the 8800gt or an x300 mobile?
[17:53] <kensuaga> its has 256 mb dedicated
[17:54] <kensuaga> i have  run guildwars on this system
[17:55] <lordievader> kensuaga: Seems to be a lot slower than an 8800M GTS, not sure if it will run.
[17:57] <kensuaga> should it still let me get into the game? i cant even get that far?
[17:58] <lordievader> kensuaga: Yes it should, how did you install the game? And did you install the drivers for you video card?
[18:02] <kensuaga> this is all i did on a fresh install sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[18:02] <kensuaga> sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <kensuaga> sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:02] <lordievader> kensuaga: What does the kde-jockey give?
[18:10] <kensuaga> ati redeon - License free
[18:15] <lordievader> kensuaga: Is that the recommended driver? If so, did you install it?
[18:17] <kensuaga> not sure where that came from? i was using the one that comes with kubuntu never tried anything until now. i am guessing that is from gallium
[18:18] <lordievader> kensuaga: You mean the closed-source driver? I assume it was always there, however is it installed?
[18:20] <kensuaga> i believe that ati does support this card on 12.04. they dropped support for it a long time ago
[18:20] <lordievader> kensuaga: Can you answer my question please.
[18:20] <kensuaga> no closed-source to install?
[18:21] <lordievader> kensuaga: The jockey has no options?
[18:21] <kensuaga> jockey has ati redeon - License free activated
[18:22] <lordievader> kensuaga: Ah, thank you. So there is a driver for it installed. How did you install the game? Through apt-get?
[18:23] <kensuaga> i just manual downloaded it - extract - and click on a script
[18:24] <kensuaga> no install
[18:28] <lordievader> kensuaga: Unfortunately I don't know how to proceed.
[18:29] <kensuaga> thank you very much for your help
[18:30] <lordievader> kensuaga: No problem, too bad we couldn't resolve the problem.
[18:30] <kensuaga> i am not able to find much documentation on Galluim and it just semed too easy
[18:31] <lordievader> kensuaga: Never hear of Galluim.
[18:33] <kensuaga> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallium3D
[18:36] <lordievader> kensuaga: I got to go. Hope you will find a solution.
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[19:30] <Scunizi> seems like every time I turn around there's a new kernel
[19:33] <marco_> hallo
[19:33] <marco_> german here ?
[20:03] <Boffy> BluesKaj the file i am trying to rip with k3b is a DVD video file from DVD camera (.vob extension)
[20:04] <Boffy> however nothing happens when selecting RipDVD
[20:07] <Boffy> sorry got a Quassel crash before and then had to do some other things...
[20:07] <Boffy> recap: Hello, What is the bets programmes that is KDE based for DVD ripping? i've tried k3b but nothing happens when i clcik ripDVD it just jumps to the folder in DVD. i added (installed) transcode but again nothing happens. currently using Handbrake, but i was wondering if an easy to use KDE app can do it.
[21:33] <gbz> is anyone around?
[21:34] <avihay> yes, but don't expect fast replies
[21:35] <gbz> upgrading to the 4.9.1 ppa removes these files: http://paste.kde.org/549962/ which includes muon and kubuntu-desktop. why?
[21:35] <avihay> mck182: I believe it was a wrong password issue , also, seems like ICQ is pushing Login with email over UIN
[21:36] <mck182> glad it works :)
[21:36] <gbz> it also installs these: http://paste.kde.org/549968/ which are uneeded
[21:37] <gbz> and i have obviously removed
[21:37] <avihay> Kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, it shouldn’t bother you, and maybe they decided muon isn't fit for production environment after a few years where it failed miserably?
[21:38] <gbz> heh, that means something else should replace it right?
[21:38] <gbz> i actually like the muon package manager. its like synaptic in qt
[21:38] <avihay> no it's not
[21:38] <gbz> why isnt it?
[21:38] <avihay> it lacks a key feature
[21:38] <avihay> the DPKG output
[21:39] <gbz> im not sure exactly what you mean by that, but ok
[21:39] <avihay> and without it, your system may be broken like... something that's broken, and you wouldn't know
[21:39] <gbz> i mean im not sure where the dpkg output used to be in synaptic
[21:40] <gbz> s/used to be/is
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[21:40] <avihay> it's that stuff that appeares in the embeaded terminal when you click that more info arrow thingy
[21:40] <gbz> so are we supposed to use aptitude now?
[21:41] <avihay> I think that was worse
[21:41] <gbz> so what are you using?
[21:41] <avihay> why, synaptic of course
[21:41] <avihay> or apt-get
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[21:44] <avihay> it's ugly (gtk (actually, themeing it to fit the KDE desktop makes it look fine)), but it keeps your system working, or when it doesn't, it at least bothers to tell you what went wrong
[21:45] <gbz> avihay: correct me if im wrong but the kde 4.9.1 backports ppa is supposed to be upgrading kde to a newer version. not remove key desktop components. however bad they may be. and furethermore on an lts release
[21:45] <mparillo> The 4.9.1 ppa might have removed muon from my desktop also. but it was easy to apt-get it back.
[21:46] <avihay> I don't know, I guess you should try to reinstall it. I recommend you run synaptic, and take a look at the broken packages view, might hint you as to what's wrong
[21:46] <gbz> removing kubuntu-desktop means everything is broken
[21:46] <gbz> at least from my pov
[21:47] <gbz> doesnt every kde component on this system depend on it?
[21:48] <avihay> it's a meta-package, it doesn't contain files of it's own, it's there because it has all the other packages you need as dependencies. my guess is that there's some conflict with kdelibs5a
[21:48] <avihay> it's the other way around, it depends on all desktop components
[21:49] <avihay> it ensures that you have all the stuff you need, for say, an upgrade
[21:50] <gbz> right
[21:50] <OerHeks> ppa-purge may be able to reverse
[21:50] <avihay> I mean libkdegames5a
[21:50] <gbz> OerHeks: can i do that from muon?
[21:50] <gbz> :)
[21:51] <OerHeks> Yes gbz
[21:51] <gbz> i dont have a ppa-purge command btw
[21:51] <OerHeks> install it, and use it with  commandline
[21:52] <OerHeks>  sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>
[21:52] <gbz> that will remove all the packages from the ppa?
[21:52] <gbz> installed packages*
[21:52] <OerHeks> This program disables a PPA from your Software Sources and reverts your system back to the official Ubuntu packages.
[21:52]  * OerHeks peeks the description
[21:53] <gbz> yeah, i dont need that, but thanks anyway
[21:53] <OerHeks> but backup your data first.
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[22:15] <avihay> my nepomuk's file indexing service keeps getting suspended after a few sec.
[22:17] <avihay> it could be that it runs into the same rouge file, or just that it's database became corrupt or something. I guess it's the latter. how do I clean it's database and start anew?
[22:22] <avihay> is it perhaps ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/soprano-virtuoso.db
[22:25] <OerHeks> avihay, akonadictl --help got a lot of options :-)
[22:26] <OerHeks> vacuum or fchk .. not sure
[22:26] <avihay> mmm, I'll take a look, thanks
[22:28] <avihay> OerHeks: no luck :-<
[22:30] <OerHeks> did you stop virtuoso ?
[22:34] <avihay> umm, uhhh, err
[22:35] <avihay> rm -rf?
[22:35] <avihay> oh, look, I have errors in my log
[22:37] <avihay> in the akondai status test, under MySQL log: 120916 11:11:28 [ERROR] Native table 'performance_schema'.'events_waits_current' has the wrong structure                 and more errors like that
[22:41] <jcgs> Hi :) do people have any recommendations about podcasting software? I'm really struggling with amarok atm.
[22:41] <OerHeks> like https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298962 , delete IMAP account ?
[22:41] <ubottu> KDE bug 298962 in general "Kmail sometimes causes emails from an IMAP folder to be blank and also wipes them out in the IMAP folder" [Critical,New]
[22:42] <OerHeks> see comment 1
[22:43] <jcgs> In fact, does anyone have any adivce on how to understand amarok? all the documentation seems to have gone missing :(
[22:43] <avihay> ya, like that
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[22:46] <localooser> that rocks
[22:47] <localooser> dig on linux
[22:47] <localooser> hi yuall
[22:48] <OerHeks> hi localooser
[22:48] <localooser> just got her up and running
[22:49] <localooser> well actually multiple system win7, netrunner,and mint
[22:50] <localooser> im sorry if i intruded
[22:51] <OerHeks> next .. Kubuntu ?
[22:52] <localooser> kubuntu try it out aye you mean
[22:54] <localooser> i like netrunner it has the highest bandwith yet wireless 2.9mb-3.2
[22:54] <OerHeks> If you ask me, give it a designated partition
[22:58] <localooser> late
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