| [07:16] <silverarrow> hi | |
| [07:33] <silverarrow> hi | |
| [07:33] <silverarrow> anyone having trouble with updates? | |
| [07:35] <bioterror> nope | |
| [07:35] <bioterror> just updated ~10 packages | |
| [07:40] <silverarrow> my update manager is out of order | |
| [07:40] <silverarrow> I was suggested a sudo .... and it works | |
| [07:42] <silverarrow> I do worry about my update manger | |
| [07:42] <bioterror> I do not, I use apt-get | |
| [07:43] <bioterror> works like a charm | |
| [07:43] <silverarrow> it does | |
| [07:43] <silverarrow> but why would update manger act up? | |
| [07:43] <silverarrow> I got a major update with this one | |
| [07:43] <silverarrow> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| [07:45] <silverarrow> it is still running ... | |
| [07:45] <silverarrow> !!?? | |
| [07:45] <bioterror> what's running? | |
| [07:45] <silverarrow> the updates in terminal | |
| [07:45] <bioterror> sorry, I dont see your computer | |
| [07:46] <silverarrow> I should be more clear, but I was talking about my updates | |
| [07:46] <silverarrow> sorry | |
| [08:17] <silverarrow> how do I choose server in update manager settings? | |
| [08:34] <silverarrow> hi jonathan | |
| === Newk1 is now known as Newk | |
| [14:25] <sagaci> kanliot, cat /etc/xdg/autostart/update-manager.conf | |
| [14:31] <kanliot> sgaci no such file or dir | |
| [14:31] <kanliot> sagaci, | |
| [14:31] <sagaci> there's your problem | |
| [14:32] <sagaci> ah wait | |
| [14:32] <sagaci> update-notifier? | |
| [14:32] <sagaci> does anything autostart? | |
| [14:32] <holstein> i would use tab complete to make sure you are not "fat-fingering" the path, or choosing "no such" file or dir | |
| [14:32] <kanliot> update-manager starts from the start menu | |
| [14:32] <kanliot> but not from cron | |
| [14:33] <kanliot> tab completion won't tell you if a file doesn't exist | |
| === jacky is now known as jalcine | |
| [17:34] <Shwarmin> Hi. I'm have been running Xubuntu on an older laptop for a while. Considering installing Lubuntu. Are there any important differences? Also, is there a way too keep the applications I installed on Xubuntu? | |
| [17:35] <holstein> Shwarmin: just install lubuntu-desktop, or LXDE | |
| [17:35] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu is xubuntu... basically | |
| [17:39] <silverarrow> lubuntu has a lighter setup of apps | |
| [17:40] <silverarrow> Shwarmin: you should monitor cpu and ram load to compare xubuntu and lubuntu | |
| [17:40] <Shwarmin> Alright thx. So is Lubuntu just Xubuntu+LDXE then? | |
| [17:41] <holstein> Shwarmin: ubuntu with LXDE | |
| [17:41] <holstein> ubuntu ships with unity as the desktop environment | |
| [17:41] <silverarrow> different burnder, CD player, browser setup | |
| [17:41] <holstein> you can switch that to whatever you like.. XFCE for examle | |
| [17:41] <holstein> example* | |
| [17:41] <holstein> ubuntu with XFCE is what xubuntu is... with XFCE and other customizations | |
| [17:42] <holstein> you can have XFCE and LXDE installed and choose between them at boot, like dual booting in a way | |
| [17:42] <kanliot> how much ram does the lappy have | |
| [17:42] <kanliot> Lubuntu runs less services | |
| [17:42] <kanliot> like no pulseaudio running all the time | |
| [17:43] <Shwarmin> just below 1 gig RAM | |
| [17:43] <kanliot> 768 | |
| [17:43] <kanliot> ? | |
| [17:43] <kanliot> or like 999 something | |
| [17:44] <kanliot> if you did a fresh install, you might notice a difference | |
| [17:44] <silverarrow> you can always try | |
| [17:44] <Shwarmin> I don't remember. How can I quicly check? On windows I popped up Ccleaner for this stuff | |
| [17:44] <kanliot> but logging into LXDE, you're not going to notice a diiff | |
| [17:44] <kanliot> "system profiler and benchmark" | |
| [17:45] <kanliot> LXDE has that "freshly installed" snappiness | |
| [17:45] <silverarrow> Shwarmin: if you type htop in terminal it will show ram and cpu useage | |
| [17:45] <kanliot> he'd have to install htop | |
| [17:46] <silverarrow> ok, sudo apt-get intall htop ? | |
| [17:46] <kanliot> he has 1GB | |
| [17:46] <Shwarmin> yes installing htop | |
| [17:46] <kanliot> no need to check | |
| [17:46] <silverarrow> I would compare loads between xubuntu and lubuntu | |
| [17:46] <silverarrow> however, both should run well | |
| [17:47] <kanliot> naa | |
| [17:47] <kanliot> should be about the same | |
| [17:47] <silverarrow> htop shows ram and cpu at least | |
| [17:48] <silverarrow> and is small | |
| [17:49] <Shwarmin> it's 968 MB | |
| [17:49] <kanliot> cat /proc/meminfo | |
| [17:49] <kanliot> is the most exact way | |
| [17:49] <holstein> free -m | |
| [17:49] <silverarrow> yeah, it always shows a bit less | |
| [17:50] <kanliot> if you want exact numbers :) | |
| [17:50] <silverarrow> let me try it | |
| [17:51] <silverarrow> it shows exactly the same as htop on this ibook | |
| [17:51] <Shwarmin> total used free shared buffers cached | |
| [17:51] <Shwarmin> Mem: 968 893 75 0 14 311 | |
| [17:51] <Shwarmin> -/+ buffers/cache: 567 401 | |
| [17:51] <Shwarmin> Swap: 988 226 762 | |
| [17:52] <kanliot> i have 4GB of swap | |
| [17:52] <kanliot> i like to swap | |
| [17:52] <kanliot> 8GB swap on my other lubuntu | |
| [17:52] <bioterror> :D | |
| [17:53] <bioterror> when I was kid, we swapped c-casettes and disks | |
| [17:53] <silverarrow> I hate active swap usage reall, but great for suspend and dormant mode | |
| [17:53] <kanliot> mixtapes off fm radio | |
| [17:53] <kanliot> mom had an 8 track | |
| [17:53] <bioterror> but 8GB of swap is quite a lot | |
| [17:53] <silverarrow> lol | |
| [17:54] <kanliot> yeah but i am not lyin | |
| [17:54] <Shwarmin> impressive :) | |
| [17:54] <bioterror> I have 8GB of RAM on my Kubuntu machine and I have hardly reached half of it | |
| [17:54] <silverarrow> there is this funny slipon cover for iphone 4s, looks like a cassette | |
| [17:54] <kanliot> i never use hibernate, but i could if i ever want 2 | |
| [17:55] <kanliot> i used 6.5 GB of ram disk last week | |
| [17:55] <kanliot> but otherwise never use ram | |
| [17:55] <kanliot> tmpfs | |
| [17:58] <silverarrow> weird hangup | |
| [18:07] <keln> Hello, I have an 8 core AMD FX CPU (6.0GHz) and 16GB DDR3 RAM and a 6 GB Radeon Graphics card, will it be enough to run Lubuntu? | |
| [18:08] <zleap> keln, that sounds more than enough | |
| [18:08] * zleap drools at the thought of that spec :D | |
| [18:08] <kanliot> hmmm 6.0 GHZ | |
| [18:08] <kanliot> faster than mine | |
| [18:09] <keln> zleap: My whole machine only cost £400 though. :O | |
| [18:09] <zleap> however i guess you would need the smp kernel and not sure if the standard default kernel can access16gb ram without something else (can anyone help) | |
| [18:09] <zleap> keln, nice | |
| [18:09] <kanliot> no way 6 GHZ | |
| [18:09] <kanliot> i'm calling shennanigans | |
| [18:10] <kanliot> same for the Radeon | |
| [18:11] <kanliot> although Ace of Penguins would run pretty nice on 6 GHZ | |
| [18:13] <keln> Lol I meant 3.60 GHz | |
| [18:13] <keln> http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8150-Eight-Core-Processor/dp/B005UBNLFK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347473574&sr=8-3 | |
| [18:13] <keln> I have a cheap mainboard though | |
| [18:14] <kanliot> 4100 FX? | |
| [18:14] <kanliot> never mind | |
| [18:14] <kanliot> i cant read :( | |
| [18:23] <TheLordOfTime> keln: you should test with the livecd environment, see if it runs | |
| [18:23] <TheLordOfTime> keln: lubuntu should run on that, i've run Lubuntu on worse :p | |
| [18:24] <keln> Okay I will check just to make sure | |
| [18:24] <TheLordOfTime> this's why the live environments exist... | |
| [18:24] <TheLordOfTime> so you can do general "testing" to see if stuff runs on your hardware | |
| [18:25] <kanliot> i suggest putting the livecd on a usb flash drive | |
| [18:25] <TheLordOfTime> note that the live environment is a tad slower than an actually installed version, but it still can be good to see if it'll actually run | |
| [18:25] <TheLordOfTime> agreed | |
| [18:28] <keln> kannliot: USB? I am rich enough to run the latest technology of DVDs thank you very much. | |
| [18:28] <TheLordOfTime> USB live environments are faster :P | |
| [18:28] <TheLordOfTime> !liveusb | |
| [18:28] <ubottu> For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | |
| [18:28] <keln> Premium quality of core | |
| [18:29] <keln> I doubt it | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> tried and tested | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 3.0 | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 2.0 | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 1.1 | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> all of them | |
| [18:29] <keln> One of my DVDs will beat a USB anyday | |
| [18:29] <TheLordOfTime> do what you will, but if Lubuntu doesn't work on your system, you'll have wasted a DVD :P | |
| [18:30] <keln> But I can formot the DVD | |
| [18:30] <keln> *format | |
| [18:30] <TheLordOfTime> DVD-RW... | |
| [18:30] <kanliot> just do whatever is easier | |
| [18:30] <TheLordOfTime> ugh | |
| [18:31] <TheLordOfTime> i hate rewritable disks | |
| [18:31] <TheLordOfTime> they futz up after a while | |
| [18:31] * TheLordOfTime notices his server is showing a load of 14.03 | |
| [18:31] * TheLordOfTime disappears to address that | |
| [18:32] <kanliot> 14? | |
| [18:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm | |
| [18:32] <TheLordOfTime> don't ask' | |
| [18:32] <kanliot> you win | |
| [18:33] <keln> Why is when I format a DVD, all content on it is erased but much of the space that was used still exists | |
| [18:34] <kanliot> donno | |
| [18:35] <kanliot> lazy bits | |
| [19:47] <Osmodivs> Hello. I use Lubuntu 12.04 32 bits. I can't open ZSNES, I get this error, I do not what does it means, Can anyone help me? | |
| [19:47] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/8ZZ5YVt3 | |
| [20:38] <miniCruzer> how do I apply the Lxterminal patch for the <CTRL><SHIFT>C issuing a break command | |
| [21:25] <wxl> miniCruzer: what version of lubuntu you on> | |
| [21:29] <silverarrow> 13.04 | |
| [21:30] <wxl> um, silverarrow, i was asking miniCruzer. | |
| [21:47] <silverarrow> wxl, i could not resist | |
| [21:48] <wxl> well, miniCruzer, if yo ucome back and you're running quantal, you can add the lubuntu-daily ppa from lubuntu-dev on launchpad and just do it that way | |
| [21:48] <wxl> if not, yeah, you'll need to patch it | |
| [21:49] <wxl> otherwise patch -p0 < file.diff should get you there | |
| [21:53] <wxl> and if you're not running quantal but looking for a reason to, there you go. plus you can help with testing XD | |
| [22:00] <D7> some of my apps do not follow the same widget theme I have chosen, what should I do about that? | |
| [22:23] <hosoka> hello all | |
| [22:23] <hosoka> I have installed lubuntu with alternate cd and everything was installed just fine. | |
| [22:24] <hosoka> and then after reboot it tells me that the target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. | |
| [22:24] <hosoka> No init found. Try passing init= bootarg | |
| [22:24] <hosoka> and then ends with a new line (initramfs) | |
| [22:24] <hosoka> what to do ? | |
| [22:42] <silverarrow> ho, you got no answers | |
| [22:57] <tony__> too bad | |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest29298 | |
| [23:43] <hosoka> hello everyone | |
| [23:43] <hosoka> only getting a black screen where I need to fill in my login and password | |
| [23:43] <hosoka> how do i get my desktop back | |
| [23:44] <wxl> hosoka: does it involve a flame? | |
| [23:44] <hosoka> ? | |
| [23:44] <wxl> like this: | |
| [23:44] <wxl> http://www.bstegmaier.de/wiki/images/Xscreensaver.png | |
| [23:45] <hosoka> no not that | |
| [23:45] <wxl> did you log in then? | |
| [23:45] <hosoka> compleet blackscreen | |
| [23:45] <hosoka> it has the following after i logged in | |
| [23:45] <hosoka> e.g. | |
| [23:45] <wxl> so how do you know you need to fill in login and password? | |
| [23:46] <wxl> what versin is this? | |
| [23:46] <hosoka> hesdi@hesdi:~$ | |
| [23:46] <hosoka> how do I get into a desktop environment back | |
| [23:46] <wxl> oh you're at a command prompt | |
| [23:46] <wxl> what version are you using? | |
| [23:46] <wxl> is this a new install? | |
| [23:46] <hosoka> oldi | |
| [23:46] <hosoka> 10.10 | |
| [23:47] <hosoka> yes a new install | |
| [23:47] <wxl> not to question your choice, but is there a reason you chose such an old version? | |
| [23:47] <hosoka> getting difficulties to install | |
| [23:47] <hosoka> the only backup I had on cd | |
| [23:47] <wxl> well then i would suggest getting a new one :) | |
| [23:47] <wxl> old versions come with old bugs! | |
| [23:47] <hosoka> with usb it does not work well | |
| [23:48] <hosoka> i will try my best | |